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| 00:01:55 | Lars_G | linuxstb: btw that was just a joke, sorry if it was too informal or something |
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| 00:03:00 | linuxstb | Lars_G: No problem ;) |
| 00:03:02 | Lars_G | bluebrother: Altough it seems one of the SoC projects is a good usb stack, acoording to Llorean so some devices might get USB mode support after summer (let's pray) |
| 00:03:56 | bluebrother | Lars_G: I know ... I just was referring to the current state. Having usb support in Rockbox would be a great thing |
| 00:04:16 | bluebrother | especially with issues like this mini-hangs-sometimes-on-reboot |
| 00:04:20 | jhMikeS | Lars_G: Kick back, take your pants off and relax - this #rockbox afterall ;) |
| 00:04:31 | bluebrother | hit me just of today again. Kinda annoying. |
| 00:05:00 | Lars_G | jhMikeS: the thing is I am not sure if the big heads here are MIT-grade assholes or street-grade relaxed geeks. |
| 00:06:19 | Llorean | Lars_G: Somewhere in between. |
| 00:06:30 | jhMikeS | If /me |
| 00:06:43 | jhMikeS | 's head is looking big it's probably encephalitis |
| 00:06:52 | Lars_G | hehehe |
| 00:07:13 | | Part LinusN |
| 00:07:19 | Llorean | There are channel guidelines, because the channel is logged and we don't like the log too clogged, so the rules are enforced most of the time, but there's a general acknowledgement that people are humans, so we don't beat down every bit of humor with clubs. |
| 00:08:13 | bluebrother | big heads are usually somewhat strange, but once you are used to it the people here are quite nice. |
| 00:08:35 | * | bluebrother likes the friendliness of this channel |
| 00:08:37 | * | jhMikeS tries and tries to get beaten but just can't seem to invoke it |
| 00:08:48 | jhMikeS | provoke even |
| 00:08:58 | bluebrother | get beaten for what? |
| 00:09:02 | Lars_G | Llorean: Understood |
| 00:09:04 | linuxstb | Just change your name to "forehead"... |
| 00:09:08 | * | scorche communicates that jhMikeS hasnt tried hard enough |
| 00:09:11 | bluebrother | LOL |
| 00:09:21 | jhMikeS | top posting? almost had it :\ |
| 00:09:44 | bluebrother | sounds like you got cured ;-) |
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| 00:10:09 | * | petur beats jhMikeS just because he asked |
| 00:10:20 | * | jhMikeS learns too quickly :p |
| 00:10:23 | bluebrother | no slapping? |
| 00:10:24 | Lars_G | omg what have I done |
| 00:10:45 | bluebrother | maybe throw forehead around? |
| 00:14:06 | scorche | linuxstb: for future reference, "/cs access #rockbox list" will give you a list of ops on the channel |
| 00:17:23 | toffe82 | just one question perhaps a little off topic : do you think that we can use this kind of stuff to stream out the video from a player ? http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20070509/dual-displays-easy-the-tritton-usb-to-vga-adapter/ |
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| 00:18:44 | Llorean | toffe82: Probably not, as it requires "USB2.0" speeds which probably means full speed. |
| 00:19:29 | bluebrother | sounds like this is some kind of graphics-card-over-usb thing. Which would require a driver for this "graphics card" |
| 00:19:38 | toffe82 | but on some player the chip is a usb2 (gigabeat) , the one on the dock also |
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| 00:20:34 | Llorean | Yes, but can it support full speed serving as host, or high speed serving as host? |
| 00:21:22 | toffe82 | good question :) |
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| 00:22:40 | Llorean | Most USB Host supporting devices seem to not support the fastest speed despite being USB2.0 compliant. |
| 00:24:09 | toffe82 | ok |
| 00:24:32 | saratoga | i'd assume its a CPU issue |
| 00:24:42 | saratoga | 480mbit is supposed to be cpu intensive |
| 00:24:48 | Llorean | I'd imagine it is. |
| 00:24:50 | saratoga | well relatively speaking |
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| 00:27:10 | Cassandra | Ooh, I'm on here. LinusN, Bagder, you around? |
| 00:28:26 | Domonoky | Cassandra: on the way to Devcon ? :-) |
| 00:29:18 | Cassandra | Tomorrow, yes. |
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| 00:40:08 | petur | bah, I'll be the last one to arrive, hope I won't wake up anybody tomorrow ;) |
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| 00:41:57 | scorche | you bring beer though |
| 00:42:06 | Cassandra | petur: got a contact number for Linus/Daniel? |
| 00:42:13 | Cassandra | I could do with one. |
| 00:42:26 | petur | I'll PM you the number |
| 00:42:29 | Cassandra | Or Contactor, for that matter. |
| 00:42:31 | Cassandra | Thanks. |
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| 00:43:22 | JdGordon | their modilbes are on haxx.se iirc |
| 00:43:25 | JdGordon | mobiles* |
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| 00:43:55 | * | petur tries to figure out what JdGordon tried to write :) |
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| 00:45:31 | petur | Cassandra: getting my PM? |
| 00:46:59 | scorche | JdGordon: i see addresses, mail, public keys, maps, but no numbers |
| 00:47:54 | petur | http://www.haxx.se/contact.html |
| 00:48:37 | Cassandra | Wow. I wouldn't put my cellphone number on a public website. |
| 00:48:52 | scorche | oh...i was looking at their personal sites |
| 00:49:21 | Cassandra | petur, yeah, sorry. For some reason I wasn't logged into nickserv. |
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| 00:52:37 | petur | wow... 17kg packed |
| 00:52:54 | * | petur looks for another 3kg beer :) |
| 00:52:56 | Cassandra | Now pack something other than technology. |
| 00:53:24 | Cassandra | Last time I got a serious once-over in customs when they discovered I had four MP3 players in my bag. |
| 00:53:26 | petur | heh, most of that is beer (well glass +beer) |
| 00:53:37 | Cassandra | I'm expecting the same this year. |
| 00:53:45 | toffe82 | 17kg, must be a lot of dap :) |
| 00:54:10 | Cassandra | (It'd be five if I wasn't using the other one.) |
| 00:54:34 | Cassandra | Five MP3 players really isn't that many, right? |
| 00:54:47 | Cassandra | I mean it's not even a quarter of what Rockbox runs on. |
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| 00:55:30 | scorche | one would be hardpressed to compete with linus |
| 00:56:06 | Cassandra | I think I own more seperate models than any other developer except Jens and Linus. |
| 00:57:15 | Cassandra | Don't you wish you were as cool as I am? |
| 00:57:18 | * | petur has only one |
| 00:57:23 | donutman25 | q |
| 00:57:44 | toffe82 | I think I own more identical models than any other developer ;) |
| 00:57:55 | Cassandra | toffe82, what you got? |
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| 00:59:07 | toffe82 | all the toshiba's gigabeat F, X, S and V (4 F, 1 X, 2 S and 1 V) non counting the one non working ( like 10 F and S) |
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| 00:59:09 | JdGordon | he is keeping toshiba in buisness :p |
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| 00:59:54 | scorche | iirc, [IDC]Dragon has quite a few identical archos units as well....or perhaps i am getting that from a picture of ones that were not all his |
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| 01:00:14 | * | Cassandra adds a silly joke to the wiki. |
| 01:00:34 | Cassandra | toffe82, why? |
| 01:01:15 | toffe82 | don't know ;) I bought them cheap on ebay |
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| 01:01:36 | toffe82 | and repair some to feed the dev |
| 01:01:48 | JdGordon | Cassandra: can you work on amiconn to either code up viewports or explain/write up his idea for them? I might have a crack at them after exams (2 weeks) |
| 01:02:05 | Cassandra | JdGordon, I'll mention it to people. |
| 01:02:26 | Cassandra | It's a long overdue feature IMHO. |
| 01:02:27 | scorche | JdGordon: you might want to add it to the wiki as well |
| 01:02:43 | JdGordon | cheers |
| 01:02:49 | Cassandra | Like the installer. Which incompetant was supposed to be writing that installer anyway? |
| 01:03:05 | scorche | rbutility? |
| 01:03:13 | Cassandra | rbutil, yes. |
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| 01:04:31 | JdGordon | actually... I used rbutil recently for the first time and I liked it |
| 01:05:16 | Cassandra | rbutil is fab. It needs finishing though. |
| 01:05:40 | Cassandra | The good news is that thanks to domo...whatshisname it's not too far off. |
| 01:05:54 | Cassandra | I reckon I can tidy it up to release status in a month or so. |
| 01:06:14 | scorche | domonoky? |
| 01:06:22 | Cassandra | Yup. |
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| 01:08:09 | webguest56 | How do i add themes onto my ipod video |
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| 01:17:13 | Bretto | hey guys |
| 01:17:33 | Bretto | I just installed on a 4g ipod and I can't seem to find what I'm looking for in the manual |
| 01:17:55 | petur | webguest56: most themes should just unzip on your ipod |
| 01:18:12 | Bretto | basically I'm just wondering what's the "proper way" of adding new music to my ipod? |
| 01:18:31 | Bretto | do I just add new files anywhere anyhow I please and then ask ROckbox to search and create a database? |
| 01:18:49 | petur | Bretto: either keep using itunes + rockbox database or just drag/drop into a folder tree of your choice |
| 01:19:00 | mpeccorini | what are you looking for? |
| 01:19:34 | Bretto | petur: cool, thanks man...I guess I'm just going to do like "Flac music", "OGG music" etc |
| 01:19:37 | mpeccorini | LOL, my scrollbar was a little moved |
| 01:20:01 | petur | Bretto: I'm using /music/A/artist/cd |
| 01:20:26 | Bretto | petur: that's a lot of typing though:) |
| 01:20:46 | Bretto | unless you are using Linux? Probably have a nice script to do that for you? |
| 01:21:07 | petur | why? |
| 01:21:28 | markun | Cassandra: nice to see you are going again this year! |
| 01:21:36 | petur | it makes it easier to browse through all my music |
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| 01:24:09 | Bretto | hm, do I have to reboot to change themes? |
| 01:24:40 | petur | no, just select it (settings -> browse themes) |
| 01:26:30 | * | petur walks off to bed |
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| 01:26:59 | * | JdGordon hates trying to figure out if a intermittant bug is fixed :'( |
| 01:27:13 | mpeccorini | guys, if I run a "svn status" I get some files with an M for modified and some with a ? which are not in the repository. Will a "svn update" delete those files? |
| 01:27:58 | dionoea | svn update never deletes files you modified |
| 01:28:13 | mpeccorini | Bretto: you may need to get the fonts for your themes to work |
| 01:28:13 | dionoea | it can only delete files which were deleted upstream which you didn't modify |
| 01:28:25 | mpeccorini | dionoea: thanks |
| 01:29:58 | Bretto | I copied some flac files, how do I play them once they are on the ipod? |
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| 01:32:27 | Alldogship | I'm filled with bugs today |
| 01:32:39 | webguest56 | when i unzipped the themes and added them to the ipod they wont open |
| 01:32:51 | webguest56 | all it does is change the color of the background |
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| 01:33:53 | webguest56 | petur: please guide me on how to add themes to the ipod correctly |
| 01:34:29 | scorche | webguest56: they likely have errors in them |
| 01:34:42 | webguest56 | which themes dont then |
| 01:34:54 | scorche | test and find out |
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| 01:35:20 | webguest56 | how should i test them |
| 01:35:31 | webguest56 | to add themes i unzip them |
| 01:35:41 | webguest56 | then drag that file into the themes folder in .rockbox |
| 01:38:32 | webguest56 | The themes are not working |
| 01:38:36 | webguest56 | please help me with themes |
| 01:38:40 | Javacat | Does anyone know whether the Cowon X5 can be charged through USB with Rockbox? |
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| 01:41:46 | simmel | Yes. |
| 01:41:53 | simmel | But you have to turn it off. |
| 01:42:38 | webguest56 | How do i add themes to rockbox on my ipod? |
| 01:43:59 | Javacat | thanks simmel |
| 01:44:39 | Bretto | I copied some flac files over to my ipod, and now I can't find them :( I should just be able to browse "files" from the main menu correct? |
| 01:45:30 | Bretto | nevermind... |
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| 01:47:15 | webguest56 | How do i add themes to ipod video correctly? |
| 01:47:53 | scorche | the manual covers this...there is no need to repeat the question over and over |
| 01:48:08 | Bretto | webguest56: dont drag and drop the folder. Just unzip it right to the ipod. |
| 01:49:17 | Bretto | also make sure you installed the fonts |
| 01:49:46 | webguest56 | do i select the .rockbox folder |
| 01:50:00 | Lars_G | meh I have to redownload the skins. |
| 01:50:01 | webguest56 | or just dra it right to the ipod symbol saying my name on it |
| 01:50:53 | Bretto | neither |
| 01:51:14 | Bretto | unzip the compressed file. select the destination as your ipod |
| 01:51:56 | webguest56 | so select all then click extract |
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| 02:04:20 | Lars_G | is album art still a "patch only" thing? |
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| 02:04:29 | TekNikal | Guys |
| 02:04:33 | TekNikal | Some help her? |
| 02:04:37 | TekNikal | here*? |
| 02:04:45 | markun | TekNikal: what kind of help? |
| 02:05:05 | TekNikal | Lag help |
| 02:05:16 | TekNikal | > e260 |
| 02:05:21 | digerati1338 | I can help |
| 02:05:38 | digerati1338 | it lags when you are playing a song, correct? |
| 02:05:40 | TekNikal | Whenever i play a song AND or play games it lags tremendously |
| 02:05:43 | TekNikal | are |
| 02:05:45 | digerati1338 | yep |
| 02:05:53 | TekNikal | aye |
| 02:05:55 | digerati1338 | are you using SVN? |
| 02:06:05 | TekNikal | is it installed? |
| 02:06:09 | TekNikal | or is it used |
| 02:06:13 | digerati1338 | where did you get rockbox? |
| 02:06:13 | TekNikal | I got it on there |
| 02:06:21 | TekNikal | Website |
| 02:06:22 | digerati1338 | try using a custom build |
| 02:06:23 | TekNikal | the main one |
| 02:06:32 | TekNikal | actually |
| 02:06:35 | digerati1338 | the cpchan build works well |
| 02:06:41 | digerati1338 | or you could use my digibuild |
| 02:06:47 | ze | http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Korg-MR1?sku=700878 <−− how about rockbox on that thing? :p |
| 02:06:52 | scorche | TekNikal: are you talking about playing a song at the same time you are playing a game? |
| 02:06:53 | TekNikal | Compiled Rockbox: chrisjs branch |
| 02:06:56 | TekNikal | yes |
| 02:06:56 | digerati1338 | custom builds include patches that temporarily fix the lag problems. |
| 02:07:06 | TekNikal | Im using Compiled Rockbox: chrisjs branch |
| 02:07:18 | digerati1338 | That should work well |
| 02:07:23 | digerati1338 | unless its out of date |
| 02:07:27 | TekNikal | @scorche whether im playing a game or browsing through songs |
| 02:07:31 | digerati1338 | I know cpchan just updated his build today |
| 02:07:52 | digerati1338 | and my digibuild is building right now |
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| 02:10:30 | digerati1338 | try here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=72 look for Compiled Rockbox |
| 02:11:19 | TekNikal | Yeh i got it |
| 02:11:22 | TekNikal | 2 0.0 |
| 02:11:32 | TekNikal | o oops |
| 02:11:32 | TekNikal | nvm |
| 02:12:18 | TekNikal | which on |
| 02:12:24 | TekNikal | i was using the cphan one |
| 02:12:30 | TekNikal | I'll try Chris's |
| 02:12:43 | TekNikal | Strange |
| 02:13:07 | TekNikal | Still laggy |
| 02:13:15 | TekNikal | Maybe i changed fonts? |
| 02:13:50 | TekNikal | Nope |
| 02:13:54 | TekNikal | still all laggy =( |
| 02:15:04 | TekNikal | Maybe theme problem?? |
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| 02:16:37 | TekNikal | ? |
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| 02:20:23 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, what did you have to add to the hard drive you replaced on the gigabeat to allow the player to boot? |
| 02:23:19 | TekNikal | It lags when i play a song on my e260 |
| 02:23:21 | TekNikal | Help? |
| 02:23:30 | TekNikal | Non of the compiled works |
| 02:23:54 | scorche | turn off the EQ, peakmeters, crossfade, etc |
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| 02:51:30 | ivan | Hiya |
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| 02:51:50 | ivan | scorche: :'( |
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| 02:52:35 | scorche | ...what? |
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| 02:54:42 | ivan | iPod got reformatted :( |
| 02:55:06 | scorche | and why did you highlight me with a frowny face? |
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| 02:56:02 | ivan | because you helped me so much |
| 02:56:03 | ivan | lol |
| 02:56:12 | ivan | and now it's all gone with 1 click |
| 02:56:22 | * | scorche shrugs |
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| 03:04:54 | saratoga | finally got the ffmpeg cruft away from the wma decoder and asf parser |
| 03:05:12 | saratoga | now i've got a free standing wma to wav program |
| 03:05:26 | saratoga | using hte latest ffmpeg source for decoding |
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| 03:08:40 | JohnSpiegel | hello, I'm John Spiegel, and I'm thinking about trying to get RockBox working on the Samsung YP-U2. |
| 03:08:48 | JohnSpiegel | So... uhh... can I have wiki edit permissions? |
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| 03:12:45 | saratoga | JohnSpiegel: I think everyone with the ability to do that is on European time, so they're probably in bed |
| 03:13:03 | saratoga | if you don't hear anything, try again a bit earlier tomorrow |
| 03:14:56 | scorche | saratoga: anyone who can edit the wiki can do it...i am just a bit busy atm |
| 03:15:32 | JohnSpiegel | I'm patient... :) |
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| 03:22:41 | digerati1338 | I could do it if someone can tell me how. I already have wiki permissions. |
| 03:24:00 | JohnSpiegel | It looks like you need to add me here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup |
| 03:25:41 | digerati1338 | yep that looks right |
| 03:27:36 | digerati1338 | you should be good 2 go. |
| 03:27:46 | JohnSpiegel | ok, thanks. :) |
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| 03:28:56 | digerati1338 | np;) |
| 03:34:01 | saratoga | oh wow |
| 03:34:04 | saratoga | didn't know we could do that |
| 03:34:11 | saratoga | anyway, i have a question |
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| 03:34:23 | saratoga | how do I know if a sansa I order is the Rhapsody one or not? |
| 03:34:32 | saratoga | do they have different part numbers or something? |
| 03:34:49 | scorche | typically, they are called something liek the e260R |
| 03:35:22 | saratoga | the amazon page is confusing me: |
| 03:35:24 | saratoga | http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMX4-8192-Sansa-Player-Black/dp/B000HZ9CCA/ref=acc_glance_ce_main_0_img/104-9767671-7124751?ie=UTF8&qid=1179451925&sr=8-2 |
| 03:35:34 | saratoga | it says e280, but mentions rhapsody |
| 03:35:50 | saratoga | "Microsoft PlaysForSure Certified ensures that what you buy from PlaysForSure-certified online music stores such as Real Rhapsody will play on your Sansa e200 series MP3 player." |
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| 03:36:19 | webguest97 | Where can i get the instructions on how to load themes onto my ipod video? |
| 03:37:01 | scorche | the manual |
| 03:37:33 | digerati1338 | saratoga: The only place to get Rhapsody is best buy. |
| 03:37:57 | digerati1338 | saratoga: They should alwasy have an R as in "e260R" as opposed to "e260" |
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| 03:39:06 | saratoga | so the normal sansa supports rhapsody, but is not a rhapsody model? |
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| 03:39:47 | webguest97 | can someone help me on how to load themes onto my ipod |
| 03:39:53 | digerati1338 | i dont think the normal sansa supports rhapsody |
| 03:39:57 | digerati1338 | though it might |
| 03:40:11 | ivan | i'm just waiting for you RB to be on the 80GB iPod |
| 03:40:14 | digerati1338 | actually i'm pretty sure it doesn't |
| 03:40:25 | saratoga | the manual implies it does, so i guess thats just a normal sansa on amazon |
| 03:41:10 | digerati1338 | webguest97: go here: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 |
| 03:42:32 | markun | webguest97: why do you use different nicks? It's a bit confusing |
| 03:43:42 | digerati1338 | saratoga: I checked out the link you gave and it looks like a non-R model to me, but I can't be sure. |
| 03:45:21 | saratoga | thanks |
| 03:45:24 | webguest97 | Where do i out the extracted theme file in |
| 03:45:35 | saratoga | looking online, rhapsody is just PlaysForSure, so its probably a regular one |
| 03:46:07 | ivan | this sucks finally got rockbox on my 60gb photo iPod and mom connected it to my lappy and itunes deleted everything |
| 03:47:45 | webguest97 | Where do i place the extracted them file in my ipod? |
| 03:48:25 | digerati1338 | webguest98: just save the zip to your desktop, right click, extract all, select your ipod |
| 03:49:10 | digerati1338 | saratoga: when i got mine i was able to get it very cheap with some rebates. I don't know if they are still doing that but you might try a quick search. |
| 03:50:52 | saratoga | yeah i know, but prices have been rising on the sansa lately |
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| 03:51:50 | EnCoRe | I need help on a quick question |
| 03:52:09 | EnCoRe | I would like to re-install the original firmware on my h10 20gb |
| 03:52:29 | EnCoRe | i was a bone head and i didn't save the h10_20G.mi4 |
| 03:54:15 | scorche | saratoga: i see this as the cheapest e260 atm: http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4090787&JRSource=linkshare.datafeed.SAD+SDMX44096A7 |
| 03:54:37 | digerati1338 | encore: do a google search. You can find one online. |
| 03:55:44 | digerati1338 | saratoga: that is the store i got mine from too. I only paid 90 something for an e260 with a $30 Mail in Rebate and $10 google checkout discount. |
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| 03:56:45 | saratoga | same price as amazon for the e280 though |
| 03:57:02 | saratoga | think i'm just going to get it there |
| 03:57:10 | scorche | is it used? |
| 03:57:11 | saratoga | i'm still pissed i missed that 148 deal at costco |
| 03:57:15 | saratoga | no new |
| 03:57:36 | EnCoRe | bah the only thing i found was the recovery tool on the iriver website |
| 03:57:47 | EnCoRe | its working, yet it is formatting my drive too :-( |
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| 04:09:05 | saratoga | how is the volume issue on the sansa anyway? |
| 04:09:11 | saratoga | i remember seeing a patch for it |
| 04:09:15 | saratoga | did that resolve the problem or not |
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| 04:09:58 | digerati1338 | as of SVN earlier today the sound is amazing |
| 04:10:30 | digerati1338 | the volume goe very high now and the sound is better than the default firmware IMO |
| 04:11:01 | digerati1338 | A few patches were just committed that really helped, along with the new sound api patch |
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| 04:35:50 | jurrie | question wrt to Sansa dev't. Would the white screen meltdowns that I see from time to time be expected to be related to memory corruption issues associated with plugins (i.e. games) or RockBox system APIs? Since the plugins run on all platforms I would guess that these are fairly well flushed out by now. However, if that's not the case then this is an area where I could contribute a bit. |
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| 04:36:58 | pilpil | hi im trying to find that comparison chart that compares the rockbox to archos firmware can someone link me that |
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| 04:43:17 | saratoga | pilpil: this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 04:45:48 | digerati1338 | anyone here good with linux shell scripts? |
| 04:46:35 | digerati1338 | Im trying to figure out how to unzip one zip file into another zip file |
| 04:47:00 | digerati1338 | or merge two zip files into 1 |
| 04:47:23 | digerati1338 | I suppose I could do it with a temporary directory |
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| 04:50:31 | digerati1338 | perhaps "unzip -p directory | zip -r filename.zip" |
| 04:52:23 | jurrie | couple with "zip -u" to update one of the existing zip archives with the extracted contents of the other |
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| 05:04:19 | Gursikh | hey guys 1- OMG i updated my rockbox after some months and it's AWESOME 2- any place/link/etc I can find what codecs the archos 6000 supportS? |
| 05:04:43 | scorche | mp3 |
| 05:05:08 | Gursikh | that's it right? |
| 05:05:19 | scorche | yup |
| 05:05:27 | amiconn | mp2+mp3 |
| 05:05:34 | Gursikh | ok that's what I thought (and what a quick wiki search reveleaed) |
| 05:06:03 | * | scorche never thinks of mp2... |
| 05:12:30 | ptw419 | what is a good site to upload files? |
| 05:12:44 | ptw419 | for others to d/l to i mean |
| 05:15:46 | digerati1338 | rapidshare is used by a lot of people, though I don't like it personally |
| 05:19:18 | ptw419 | thanx |
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| 05:23:52 | ptw419 | I have posted the Gigabeat S frame buffer write code on the gigabeat S wiki |
| 05:23:56 | ptw419 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo |
| 05:24:20 | ptw419 | under Gigabeat S sig disable and framebuffer write |
| 05:25:57 | JdGordon | amiconn: you doing an all nighter before devcon? |
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| 05:33:16 | JdGordon | hey zivan56, any news with the tuner? |
| 05:34:33 | zivan56 | still having trouble getting precisions frequencies, although I am getting close |
| 05:36:56 | zivan56 | err precise frequencies, ie 103.5 is tuned to 103.412 |
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| 05:53:12 | saratoga | looks like a hack is available for the gigabeat s |
| 05:54:49 | aliask|uni | Very basic at the moment, but it's a promising sign of things to come :) |
| 05:58:40 | saratoga | wow theres a manual |
| 05:58:42 | saratoga | 2400 pages |
| 05:58:44 | saratoga | for the CPU |
| 05:58:48 | saratoga | thats unthinkable |
| 05:58:54 | saratoga | documented hardware |
| 05:59:11 | aliask|uni | For the i.MX31? |
| 05:59:19 | ptw419 | yeah |
| 05:59:23 | ptw419 | thats a fun read |
| 05:59:34 | btdubs | ...very, haha |
| 05:59:37 | aliask|uni | Wow, where's that - I've only found a much smaller one. |
| 05:59:49 | ptw419 | it's even a better time trying to find what you need in that thing... |
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| 06:00:25 | aliask|uni | Yeah, my version is only 108 pages... it doesn't contain much information |
| 06:00:38 | btdubs | assuming the S gets hacked and rockbox loaded, will floating point codecs be implemented? |
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| 06:00:54 | scorche | not likely |
| 06:01:03 | aliask|uni | Possibly, but they may not get implemented in SVN because it only works on one target. |
| 06:01:10 | scorche | exactly |
| 06:01:41 | aliask|uni | But the FPU will be a handy thing to have, no doubt. |
| 06:02:03 | btdubs | ...i was kind of joking since you guys were talking about the CPU |
| 06:02:10 | btdubs | lol, i think 533 is more than enough |
| 06:02:20 | saratoga | http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MCIMX31RM.pdf?fpsp=1 |
| 06:03:04 | ptw419 | that manual is very complicated... |
| 06:03:06 | aliask|uni | Ah, how did I miss that? I'm staring at the page with that on it... |
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| 06:04:58 | saratoga | whats it use for display? |
| 06:05:05 | saratoga | i did't see a controller in the manual |
| 06:05:20 | amiconn | JdGordon: Nah, just awoke early |
| 06:05:58 | ptw419 | ipu? |
| 06:06:22 | ptw419 | thats the most in depth thing in the manual i could find on graphics |
| 06:07:19 | ptw419 | try starting around page 1863 |
| 06:07:26 | saratoga | oh chapter 44 |
| 06:07:28 | saratoga | how did i miss that |
| 06:07:37 | ptw419 | ipu starts on page 1925 |
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| 06:08:28 | saratoga | well that should make writing a real display driver pretty easy |
| 06:08:47 | saratoga | we should chip in and by bagder one |
| 06:08:52 | saratoga | he probably can't resist |
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| 06:14:35 | digerati1338 | Why does "zip -o -r ../rockbox/build/digibuild-$date.zip *" not add hidden files (i.e. .rockbox) to the zip? |
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| 06:38:40 | ptw419 | i actually have a linux distribution specifically tailored for the imx.31 that i got from freescale |
| 06:39:15 | ptw419 | should be very useful in helping to write drivers. not to mention the manual, and disassembling the firmware driver files as well |
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| 08:19:54 | linuxstb_ | kkurbjun: 02.20.23 # <kkurbjun> linuxstb, what did you have to add to the hard drive you replaced on the gigabeat to allow the player to boot? <−−- Just the GBSYSTEM folder, nothing else. I haven't tried booting the original firmware though, just Rockbox. |
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| 08:29:25 | JdGordon | linuxstb_: your going to devcon right? |
| 08:31:18 | JdGordon | wiki says not.. oh well.. if they come online, can you poke amiconn to have a look at FS #7134 from a ondio POV please? |
| 08:36:05 | linuxstb_ | I won't be around this weekend either, starting in a few hours time. |
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| 08:44:50 | JdGordon | hmm ok... Im sure someone will pass the message on or he'll read the logs |
| 08:44:56 | JdGordon | have a good w/e all |
| 08:44:59 | JdGordon | back tomorow night |
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| 09:00:09 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, I had some trouble getting a 30 gig HD working that was not originally formatted .. I thought you ran into the same problem upgrading a hd, but I guess not |
| 09:00:31 | kkurbjun | I ended up fixing it by doing a low level format and then using the gigabeat formatter tool |
| 09:01:07 | kkurbjun | not originally formatted for the gigabeat that is |
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| 09:10:44 | The-Compiler | Hi |
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| 09:17:09 | Bagder | devcon day! |
| 09:18:26 | petur | but first: another working day! |
| 09:18:53 | Bagder | hey, I'm trying to create a good atmosphere here! |
| 09:18:58 | Bagder | :-) |
| 09:19:12 | petur | let's hope nothing breaks in the tight time-schedule ;) |
| 09:19:33 | petur | alright then: YIHAAA |
| 09:22:13 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Before the fun starts, could you move a file to the download server? |
| 09:22:30 | linuxstb_ | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rbutil-v0.3.2.3.dmg |
| 09:22:40 | linuxstb_ | (Mac OS X version of rbutil) |
| 09:24:09 | Bagder | will do! |
| 09:24:17 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Also, what do you think about adding Toni's sansa emulator to SVN, as well as the new disassembler he's started work on? |
| 09:24:27 | Bagder | I'd love to see them both added |
| 09:24:47 | aliask | That disassembler looks really promising |
| 09:25:48 | Bagder | rbutil-v0.3.2.3.dmg is now on the dl site |
| 09:26:21 | linuxstb_ | Thanks, I'll update the wiki. Domonoky has also uploaded a new win32 binary - he's linked to it from the RockboxUtility wiki page. |
| 09:27:24 | Bagder | ok, I put that on the dl site too now |
| 09:29:20 | linuxstb_ | Any thoughts about where in SVN these extra tools should go? |
| 09:34:03 | petur | frrrr... recording settings aren't saved anymore :( |
| 09:35:51 | Bagder | linuxstb: are those sources particularly big? |
| 09:36:05 | Bagder | if not, I think just in the trunk makes it most conveniant |
| 09:36:23 | linuxstb_ | I'm not sure - the disassembler is tiny (at the moment...), I haven't got a copy of the emulator to hand. |
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| 09:48:19 | linuxstb | Bagder: The emulator source is about 138KB - 8 source files. |
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| 10:10:56 | Bagder | linuxstb: small enough to be put in the trunk like rbutil then I think |
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| 10:13:21 | Cassandra | Right. It's Sweden-time. |
| 10:13:36 | Cassandra | See you all on the other side. |
| 10:13:49 | petur | see you later ;) |
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| 10:13:57 | petur | have a good trip |
| 10:14:20 | petur | eow... 10+ seconds lag :( |
| 10:17:51 | JurassicC | has anybody looked at the Sansa Connect yet? |
| 10:18:38 | Bagder | looked at? |
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| 10:19:13 | JurassicC | owned, messed with, thought of porting rockbox to... |
| 10:19:31 | Bagder | I've seen some dissect pics that's about all I know |
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| 10:49:44 | Bagder | shirts arrived |
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| 10:55:27 | bluebrother | cool. |
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| 11:00:47 | * | petur waits for the devcon webpage to arrive ;) |
| 11:00:54 | * | bluebrother too |
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| 11:02:36 | scorche | Bagder: so if you wated to do the skype thing, just install it on a computer with speakers and a mic, and i will set up the conference if you wish |
| 11:02:44 | scorche | 4 |
| 11:04:00 | Bagder | I seem to have lost that javascript thing that reloaded the pic only |
| 11:05:30 | bluebrother | what was the first devcon btw? Just found the 2002 page :) |
| 11:06:11 | Bagder | that was the first, but we called it devcon then mostly for fun |
| 11:06:15 | * | linuxstb gueses the first devcon was Bagder, Zagor and LinusN in a bar |
| 11:06:17 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2006/ http://daniel.haxx.se/devcon2006/ |
| 11:06:42 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon/ |
| 11:07:12 | Zagor | Bagder: I have that javascript. have you started with a page already? |
| 11:07:16 | bluebrother | that was 2002 |
| 11:07:22 | Bagder | Zagor: no, just planning for it |
| 11:07:32 | Bagder | I won't be there until around 21 tonight |
| 11:07:39 | Bagder | Linus takes the first hit ;-) |
| 11:07:59 | scorche | is that script device specific? (ie, could i use it for mine?) |
| 11:08:13 | Zagor | scorche: the javascript? |
| 11:08:16 | Bagder | it's just a silly javascript that reloads the picture of a web page |
| 11:08:26 | Bagder | without having to reload the html |
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| 11:08:29 | scorche | oh...hrm |
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| 11:09:34 | Bagder | Zagor: but we should create a page now and start populating it with details as we go |
| 11:09:49 | Bagder | possibly we should put it on "giant" from the start |
| 11:09:52 | Zagor | I just mkdir:ed devcon2007 |
| 11:10:09 | Bagder | goodie |
| 11:10:10 | Zagor | you have a point |
| 11:10:20 | scorche | i still need to figure out what to do via that route for west... |
| 11:10:23 | Bagder | well, we could put the images there at least |
| 11:12:04 | jaczehack_deux | I'll be there tomorrow to play allan |
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| 11:13:52 | Zagor | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/webcam.html |
| 11:13:59 | Zagor | not that there's any actual image yet ;) |
| 11:14:07 | Bagder | :-) |
| 11:14:22 | linuxstb | Turn the lights on... |
| 11:14:43 | bluebrother | hez, that image is broken! ;) |
| 11:14:58 | Bagder | Zagor: we need an index page too with some basic info like time schedule etc |
| 11:15:03 | Zagor | bluebrother: yeah, but it's refreshing! |
| 11:15:17 | Bagder | refreshingly broken! |
| 11:15:17 | bluebrother | hehe |
| 11:15:41 | bluebrother | btw, will you save the pictures (or at least some of them) this year? |
| 11:15:58 | Bagder | yeah, that's the plan |
| 11:16:08 | Bagder | let's see how things work out |
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| 11:19:21 | preglow | spect i'll come back to pictures of you all passed out with petur's beer bottles lying around empty |
| 11:19:24 | preglow | party hats and all |
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| 11:19:37 | n1s | haha :-) |
| 11:19:48 | Zagor | oooh, there'll be hats? yay! |
| 11:19:58 | bluebrother | devparty? |
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| 11:21:17 | Bagder | no, you're not allowed to use the rockbox cups for beer! |
| 11:21:17 | petur | preglow: in case you missed, my luggage is now at 18kg, mostly beer bottles ;) |
| 11:21:20 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 11:21:30 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 11:21:32 | preglow | curse you! |
| 11:21:54 | preglow | rockbox cups??? |
| 11:22:09 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/mugs/ |
| 11:22:10 | petur | yes blue ones |
| 11:22:10 | bluebrother | when is the beer planned? I should get some for attending with a beer ;) |
| 11:22:44 | preglow | wtfroflomg |
| 11:22:47 | preglow | me wantey |
| 11:22:51 | * | bluebrother wonders about the look of the shirts |
| 11:23:16 | * | petur hopes to get at devcon before 23h |
| 11:23:57 | Bagder | bluebrother: I didn't bother to take any pics of them yet |
| 11:24:14 | Bagder | perhaps I should... |
| 11:24:44 | bluebrother | Bagder: guessed so ... but as we now have a brokenly reloading webcam picture ... ;-) |
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| 11:25:08 | Zagor | gotta go |
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| 11:32:37 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/tshirts2007.html |
| 11:32:59 | Bagder | poor photos, but still shows how they look |
| 11:33:10 | scorche | oooo...they are quite a bit different |
| 11:33:16 | preglow | ghah, me wantey them too |
| 11:33:27 | bluebrother | niiice |
| 11:34:31 | intgr | It's wrinkled. :) |
| 11:34:49 | Bagder | rockbox-wrinkles! |
| 11:36:02 | petur | nice! |
| 11:41:50 | Bagder | ok, I added some basic data on http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/ |
| 11:46:36 | preglow | you got the tshirts today? :P |
| 11:46:47 | Bagder | hehe, yeah |
| 11:46:48 | preglow | how fashionably late |
| 11:47:00 | preglow | ooh, that's almost a good pun |
| 11:47:51 | n1s | :-P |
| 11:49:35 | Bagder | actually, it got this late since I was away and couldn't receive them until today |
| 11:49:45 | preglow | ah, good point |
| 11:50:09 | Bagder | but perhaps that spoils the feeling of being in the last minute... |
| 11:50:09 | scorche | did you order the same amount of cups as shirts? |
| 11:50:14 | Bagder | scorche: yes |
| 11:50:25 | Bagder | 30 |
| 11:50:33 | scorche | those are going to add tot eh skipping price a bit =/ |
| 11:50:33 | * | preglow takes a sip from his vi reference mug |
| 11:50:50 | Bagder | scorche: I bet! |
| 11:51:00 | aliask | preglow: Big mug? |
| 11:51:06 | Bagder | haha |
| 11:51:14 | preglow | you should see the emacs one! |
| 11:51:17 | * | bluebrother still needs to buy that mug |
| 11:51:18 | scorche | preglow: domt make me take a shot out of my drunk tux typing rm -rf into his laptop shotglass! |
| 11:51:24 | bluebrother | (the vi one) |
| 11:51:25 | preglow | hahahahaha |
| 11:51:41 | preglow | i don't even have to be drunk to do that |
| 11:51:55 | scorche | http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/tux-penguin-shotglass.shtml |
| 11:52:25 | * | aliask is pissed off - new drivers from nvidia.com dont detect the card, and i've lost the install disk |
| 11:52:36 | bluebrother | hehe, funny glass |
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| 12:03:30 | preglow | aliask: sure you're downloading the driver for the correct card? i got a bit surprised the last time i tried to download a driver, and discovered they now have separate drivers for separate chipset series |
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| 12:09:51 | Casanoba | i mest up my ipod nano 2g frst gen how do i fix it.. or get a copy of the firmware |
| 12:10:34 | bluebrother | Rockbox won't work on the nano 2G |
| 12:10:48 | * | petur hands bluebrother some glasses |
| 12:10:49 | scorche | and this is not a general hardware help channel |
| 12:11:00 | * | scorche takes the glasses as well |
| 12:11:05 | bluebrother | petur: thanks. |
| 12:11:30 | Casanoba | do anybody know where can i get ipod firmware tod ownload |
| 12:11:35 | scorche | Casanoba: the most common and easiest way is to use the restore feature in itunes |
| 12:11:47 | Casanoba | dosent work |
| 12:11:47 | * | petur thinks he deserved lunch and goes for it |
| 12:12:01 | bluebrother | tried emergency disk mode? |
| 12:12:29 | Casanoba | i restored 6 times... the scroll mouse get stock on language |
| 12:12:41 | Casanoba | emergency disk mode? |
| 12:12:49 | bluebrother | scroll mouse? |
| 12:12:50 | Casanoba | how is that |
| 12:13:13 | bluebrother | that's a built-in way to access the ipod as a drive |
| 12:13:20 | bluebrother | without booting the apple firmware |
| 12:13:43 | Casanoba | K" drive |
| 12:14:01 | Casanoba | ? |
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| 12:15:16 | bluebrother | gtg |
| 12:15:35 | Casanoba | anybody know how to emergency disk mode? |
| 12:17:39 | DarthShrine | Casanoba, Reboot iPod, then hold centre + play as it's booting |
| 12:18:27 | Casanoba | how do i make my ipod boot |
| 12:18:36 | DarthShrine | Hold centre + menu |
| 12:19:50 | Casanoba | dosent work |
| 12:20:18 | jSwetz | hold it for 7 seconds |
| 12:22:25 | Casanoba | on the top left i se a lil lock .. i pull the lock |
| 12:22:35 | Casanoba | and dosent unlock is that good? |
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| 12:25:33 | linuxstb | Casanoba: This is a channel about the Rockbox firmware, not a general ipod support channel, so don't expect people to be able (or willing) to help... |
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| 12:37:47 | scorche | Bagder: still around? |
| 12:37:54 | Bagder | yes |
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| 12:42:41 | preglow | bluebrother: he had a 2 gig nano first gen, not a 2nd gen nano |
| 12:47:24 | jSwetz | I'm getting an error when compiling for 30GB iPod 5G. The warning says ' "BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT" redefined ' and refers to these lines in config-ipodvideo.h: |
| 12:47:25 | jSwetz | #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT 1300 /* default battery capacity */ |
| 12:47:27 | jSwetz | ======= |
| 12:47:29 | jSwetz | #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_DEFAULT 400 /* default battery capacity for the 30GB model */ |
| 12:47:30 | jSwetz | >>>>>>> .r13403 |
| 12:47:32 | jSwetz | This is the change that Nils Wallménius did three days ago (http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=13395). Could I just erase the first #define? |
| 12:47:46 | scorche | please use a pastebin next time |
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| 12:48:58 | jSwetz | sorry, I'm new to IRC.. |
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| 13:01:47 | chrisjs169 | I'm trying to RMA my Sansa, but it their Support keeps saying I need the model number: "Model Number: starts with SD" |
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| 13:36:43 | aera | good day |
| 13:37:19 | aera | i just wondered if you might be planning on adding Meizu M6 to Rockbox supported players |
| 13:37:39 | aera | well, was just a little suggestion. |
| 13:37:54 | n1s | aera: no one is working on it afaik |
| 13:38:35 | aera | hmmm.. ok. well, i hope this changes in the course of time :P |
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| 13:39:20 | petur | aera: there's a wiki page that explains how to start a new port or help with it |
| 13:39:25 | n1s | aera: someone who owns the device and is capable has to step forward and do it :-) |
| 13:39:53 | aera | yeah, i do a little C++.. what's rockbox coded with? |
| 13:40:25 | petur | C and asm |
| 13:41:10 | aera | ok.. well, i'm not sure if i'm able to handle such a project, haha, but i'll have a look at it |
| 13:42:31 | juxtap | i'll help |
| 13:42:40 | juxtap | but you gotta buy me a Meizu M6 |
| 13:42:45 | n1s | haha |
| 13:42:52 | aera | sure |
| 13:43:00 | aera | ask my rich grandad |
| 13:43:07 | aera | xD |
| 13:43:10 | juxtap | :p |
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| 13:44:05 | aera | that thing is a nice one, anyway.. beats the iPod family in like everything and is quite cheap.. (especially bought from china ^^) |
| 13:45:13 | aera | and the firmware.. well, great for a chinese one.. but i have reasons to ask for rockbox |
| 13:48:10 | aera | well, i got to be going.. cya |
| 13:48:32 | aera | (Verlässt) Grund:(.) «~{FSN}~» |
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| 14:06:29 | aliask | I'd like to talk to someone who might know about a potential IP/copyright issue |
| 14:07:24 | merbanan | contact a lawyer |
| 14:07:37 | aliask | Well, it's not that serious... |
| 14:07:54 | aliask | It's in regards to contributing to rb source |
| 14:08:25 | n1s | is it already an issue? or will it potentially be one? |
| 14:08:35 | aliask | Potentially |
| 14:08:54 | aliask | See, I have a datasheet which I obtained from a webserver which was left slightly open |
| 14:09:05 | aliask | But it usually wouldn't have been available. |
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| 14:10:33 | BigBambi | aliask: run it past Bagder as a first port of call, but I suspect you won't be able to use it |
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| 14:12:45 | n1s | aliask: I'd say that you could'nt redistribute it but may be able to use it though IANAL... |
| 14:13:14 | n1s | but i think talking to bagder is the best idea before you do anything |
| 14:13:29 | aliask | Yes, I thought I'd run it by someone before writing the driver. |
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| 14:36:41 | * | XavierGr is impatient for a working devocn webcam! |
| 14:36:48 | XavierGr | Coole Devcon day today indeed |
| 14:36:51 | XavierGr | -e |
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| 14:43:29 | ColdSphinX^ | hi |
| 14:45:55 | aliask | heya ColdSphinX^ |
| 14:46:09 | ColdSphinX^ | hi aliask |
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| 16:09:10 | kkurbjun | markun, what's your feeling on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6920 |
| 16:09:59 | kkurbjun | I really like it personally, it does make navigation much easier with one hand/not having to try and get to the side buttons |
| 16:11:05 | aliask | I was actually just looking at the gigabeat keymap and thought that this was a very strange way to have it. |
| 16:11:16 | CelticSoul | guys, beside audacity and sonic-visualiser, is there any app to view frequency spectrum of and audio file for linux? |
| 16:13:24 | kkurbjun | aliask, yes, I don't really like having A as the file browser, center cross is much nicer |
| 16:13:44 | kkurbjun | it really makes it so you have to twist your hands around to go straight to the file browser |
| 16:13:52 | aliask | Does the gigabeat F/X have a dedicated play button on the side? (Like the S) |
| 16:13:59 | Llorean | kkurbjun: The most recent version of that patch messes up the current keymap though |
| 16:14:18 | Llorean | kkurbjun: The ONLY change (IMHO) should be that in the WPS, "Select" goes back to the filetree, and "A" pauses. |
| 16:14:33 | Llorean | It changes several other things too, which I feel shouldn't be changed. |
| 16:14:45 | kkurbjun | no play button on the side |
| 16:14:57 | Llorean | aliask: No. The "A" button should mimic the behaviour of the "Play" button on other players, imho |
| 16:15:04 | kkurbjun | llorean, I only really care about select as filetree as well |
| 16:15:16 | kkurbjun | the rest should match other players |
| 16:15:26 | Llorean | kkurbjun: Well, the most recent patch undoes some of the effort to match other Rockboxes. |
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| 16:16:35 | kkurbjun | and I don't remember what the others are off hand, ok, I didn't realize that, I was mainly using the menu key and the arrows before because of the select oddity |
| 16:17:05 | BigBambi | Hi chaps: I can easily change 6920 to do what Llorean says - the only reason I changed it more was as I didn't think it would be included |
| 16:17:09 | Llorean | Basically, as far as I can tell, the only "problem" relative to other Rockboxes is the wrong keymappings in the WPS. |
| 16:17:25 | kkurbjun | well, I agree with the select and a change then, that's only in the WPS correct? |
| 16:17:29 | kkurbjun | ok, that works |
| 16:17:41 | BigBambi | Llorean: agreed |
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| 16:18:15 | BigBambi | In answer to your comments, I changed it more because I only just prefer it that way, and there din't seem to be the desire to commit |
| 16:18:32 | BigBambi | but if there is a commit chance, I'll pop one up that only changes A and select in WPS |
| 16:18:36 | BigBambi | what do you think? |
| 16:18:45 | Llorean | BigBambi: You should never put things you don't expect to be committed in the tracker. It specifically exists for things you're attempting to get committed. :) |
| 16:18:51 | kkurbjun | I would like to fix at least the a and select, and I would be willing to commit it |
| 16:19:11 | BigBambi | I put it there beacuse I thought others might prefer it too |
| 16:19:21 | kkurbjun | as long as markun does not ahve a strong opinion against it |
| 16:19:22 | BigBambi | kkurbjun: OK, new one coming up |
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| 16:19:45 | kkurbjun | bigbambi, great, thanks |
| 16:20:13 | Llorean | The trick is, if you're making a patch that you don't want/expect to be included, it'll just get rejected and removed. |
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| 16:20:35 | Llorean | Patches do get rejected if they're deemed unsuitable, and nobody's going to fix them up. :) |
| 16:20:53 | BigBambi | I undestand - I did want it committed, but just thought the chances were low |
| 16:20:57 | kkurbjun | I'll wait till after work before actually doing a commit, I want to give time for any strong objections. |
| 16:21:03 | BigBambi | Back in one mo - reboot into Linux |
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| 16:21:45 | aliask | Reinstalling windows XP to work on the gigabeat s has reminded me how much I dislike that OS. |
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| 16:25:27 | BigBambi | That took long enough |
| 16:25:33 | BigBambi | I'll do the patch in a mo |
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| 16:26:26 | btdubs | aliask: the libmtp in linux allegedly has support for the gigabeat S |
| 16:26:39 | btdubs | ...according tot libmtp's website |
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| 16:27:04 | aliask | But I can't use the firmware updater |
| 16:27:06 | btdubs | however, i think you need a recent version of it (ie the one in stock ubuntu is too outdated) |
| 16:27:20 | btdubs | OH. |
| 16:27:30 | btdubs | happy hacking =] |
| 16:27:36 | aliask | :) |
| 16:28:26 | aliask | I just realised that a USB stack will be essential for the gigabeat - we can't really use the OF's one |
| 16:28:34 | aliask | *gigabeat s |
| 16:29:08 | btdubs | it doesn't have a hardware one? |
| 16:29:26 | aliask | Don't think so. |
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| 16:29:56 | btdubs | interesting. i thought the s shared quite a few components with the x/f |
| 16:30:13 | aliask | Not really, they're pretty different internally. |
| 16:30:30 | aliask | I'm not even sure if they share any of the main ICs |
| 16:30:37 | btdubs | darn. |
| 16:30:46 | btdubs | a port has to be from scratch then? |
| 16:31:12 | aliask | Yes, but luckily the CPU handles many many functions, and has a very extensive datasheet available |
| 16:31:28 | btdubs | so it should theoretically be easier to do than the F/X? |
| 16:31:50 | aliask | I don't know how hard/easy it will be, time will tell. |
| 16:32:06 | btdubs | well i meant less guess work |
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| 16:33:46 | BigBambi | Llorean: what is your opinion about the remote? Currently, play/pause acts as select - I think it ought to act as A, with mute as menu |
| 16:33:54 | * | amiconn says hello from devcon2007 :-) |
| 16:33:55 | moos | amiconn.se :) |
| 16:34:00 | moos | yeah |
| 16:35:26 | aliask | Still no webcam :( |
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| 16:35:28 | moos | amiconn: who are already arrived? |
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| 16:36:36 | bluebrother | hello to devcon2007! |
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| 16:42:14 | * | bluebrother says npp :) |
| 16:42:40 | amiconn | lnn, or what? |
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| 16:43:06 | bluebrother | LOL |
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| 16:43:49 | BigBambi | Llorean, kkurbjun: New one up. Let me know if you agree/disagree about the remote. I think the recent SVN changes didn't also change the remote, so I have done. |
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| 16:45:08 | BigBambi | I think the play/pause button on the remote is better acting as A, as if you have the main unit in your pocket it is more useful to pause/resume playback than act as select. If it were select you would need to get the unit out of your pocket to see the screen anyway unless you had your filetree really well memorised |
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| 16:47:31 | Llorean | BigBambi: What does the "Mute" button on the remote currently do |
| 16:47:32 | Llorean | ? |
| 16:47:47 | Llorean | I agree that the one labelled Play/Pause should be identical to A, at least on a short press. |
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| 16:48:02 | BigBambi | Llorean: mute is currently menu |
| 16:48:09 | Llorean | That works, then |
| 16:48:13 | BigBambi | cool |
| 16:48:21 | Llorean | Since from there you can go to the filetree. |
| 16:48:26 | BigBambi | yep |
| 16:48:50 | BigBambi | So all I've done is swap A and Select in WPS, and make play/pause on the remote act like A not select |
| 16:48:58 | Llorean | I'm happy with it. |
| 16:49:18 | BigBambi | Ace. Fingers crossed no-one disagrees vehemently! |
| 16:49:21 | Llorean | Yeah |
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| 16:57:17 | BigBambi | Ugh, meeting time. Later all |
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| 17:09:18 | piroko | Out of curiosity, what exactly causes the ipod's firmware to be able to conserve so much more battery life other than codec optimisations? |
| 17:10:29 | Domonoky | it probably disables some chip or circuit, which we dont know how to disable.. |
| 17:10:53 | Domonoky | or dont know that is exists, no docs for the CPU in the ipods |
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| 17:29:31 | DerPapst | Hej |
| 17:30:03 | n1s | hejhej |
| 17:30:38 | DerPapst | i just receved my 2nd 3G iPod :-D |
| 17:30:49 | DerPapst | now i can fix mine |
| 17:30:52 | DerPapst | finally |
| 17:31:42 | DerPapst | the hdd is still working and i got 2136 songs for free :P |
| 17:32:04 | * | DerPapst backups iPod_Control |
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| 17:33:14 | * | piroko sings the "You are a pirate!" song from Lazytown |
| 17:36:57 | DerPapst | They were just on the hdd to test the iPod. |
| 17:37:05 | * | DerPapst coughs |
| 17:37:16 | * | bluebrother discovers some more "happened already" entries on the devcon page but no webcam yet |
| 17:37:41 | bluebrother | over 2000 songs to test an ipod? Aha. |
| 17:37:44 | DerPapst | jepp. broken image |
| 17:37:54 | DerPapst | :P |
| 17:38:20 | DerPapst | he said in the description on ebay that the ipod doesn't boot anymore. |
| 17:38:35 | bluebrother | already fixed? ;-) |
| 17:38:36 | DerPapst | well... that's not true. |
| 17:38:42 | DerPapst | it boots. |
| 17:38:58 | bluebrother | broken ipods are still quite expensive on ebay |
| 17:39:03 | DerPapst | but it's heavily scratched |
| 17:39:08 | bluebrother | at least they were the last time I lookes |
| 17:39:16 | DerPapst | this one was under 40Euro |
| 17:39:39 | DerPapst | and to fix my headphone jack i would have to pay 70 |
| 17:39:47 | DerPapst | so a good deal. |
| 17:40:05 | DerPapst | and i can replace my semibroken mobo as well :) |
| 17:40:12 | bluebrother | if you can solder I guess fixing the headphone jack would be cheaper |
| 17:40:41 | DerPapst | it'S a stupid ribbon cable |
| 17:40:44 | bluebrother | but I never tried ;-) |
| 17:41:03 | bluebrother | ah, those things. Bad when they are broken |
| 17:41:17 | DerPapst | i tried to solder it but it didn't work. |
| 17:41:21 | DerPapst | yepp. |
| 17:43:28 | DerPapst | heh.. they wanted to have a 3G on devcon and i have 2 ^^ |
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| 18:21:12 | webguest09 | My computer wont detect my sansa? what shoukld i do |
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| 18:22:26 | desowin | be careful and check out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick |
| 18:22:52 | pixelma | webguest09: do you run rockbox while trying to connect? |
| 18:23:01 | bluebrother | you need to boot into the sansa firmware to get a usb connection |
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| 18:24:07 | webguest09 | no it runs automatically everytime i turn it on |
| 18:24:11 | webguest09 | and it has a -1 error |
| 18:24:30 | webguest09 | so the normal firmware doesnt get detected |
| 18:24:50 | Llorean | Turn off the sansa |
| 18:24:53 | Llorean | Plug in USB while it's turned off |
| 18:25:15 | webguest09 | its still doesnt get detected |
| 18:25:25 | webguest09 | and the -1 error still display |
| 18:25:40 | Llorean | You didn't use the official installer did you? |
| 18:25:46 | Llorean | You can't get the -1 error if you installed the official way. |
| 18:25:52 | Llorean | Not while trying to boot the original firmware, at least |
| 18:26:10 | webguest09 | Never mind |
| 18:26:27 | webguest09 | i installed rockbox while it was still in build |
| 18:26:35 | webguest09 | it was never officials and thats what messes it up |
| 18:26:49 | webguest09 | but i returned it back to circuit city |
| 18:27:01 | webguest09 | i was just wondering what might be wrong |
| 18:27:12 | Llorean | Well -1 means you didn't follow all the install directions properly |
| 18:27:18 | Llorean | It means that "Rockbox.mi4 wasn't found" |
| 18:27:32 | webguest09 | oh |
| 18:27:49 | webguest09 | are you guys going to make rockbox for nano second gn |
| 18:27:53 | webguest09 | gen* |
| 18:28:09 | Llorean | Targets aren't really planned |
| 18:28:15 | Llorean | Someone with a second gen nano would have to work on it |
| 18:28:44 | webguest09 | Can you tell someone t work on it |
| 18:28:56 | webguest09 | i will pay you $25 |
| 18:29:10 | Llorean | Hahaha |
| 18:29:29 | Llorean | $25 doesn't magically make people have time, or an interest, and porting is hard work. |
| 18:29:34 | Llorean | Someone has to already be interested in it |
| 18:29:34 | desowin | such price for porting is silly |
| 18:29:36 | bluebrother | finding out how to run custom code on the nano for $25? |
| 18:29:47 | Llorean | You're better off learning how to program yourself, and working on it. |
| 18:29:57 | webguest09 | $1000 dollars |
| 18:30:00 | webguest09 | fine |
| 18:30:11 | bluebrother | the nano 2G is much more work than just a couple of hours |
| 18:30:40 | bluebrother | money won't attract devs. Development is done for fun, not for money |
| 18:30:58 | webguest09 | oh |
| 18:31:07 | webguest09 | then tell someone to do it for fun |
| 18:31:11 | webguest09 | or maybe one of you can |
| 18:31:16 | bluebrother | that's the way open source works. At least, the majority of it. |
| 18:31:17 | Llorean | webguest09: Do it for fun. |
| 18:31:19 | * | Llorean wonders if it worked. |
| 18:31:31 | webguest09 | i dont know how to |
| 18:31:36 | webguest09 | im rockbox dumb |
| 18:31:48 | bluebrother | that doesn't imply you can't change that. |
| 18:31:54 | webguest09 | if u help me out i will be able to |
| 18:31:58 | desowin | don't require anyone to work atleast |
| 18:32:18 | webguest09 | ok |
| 18:32:21 | webguest09 | fine |
| 18:32:27 | webguest09 | i just hope someone does it for fun |
| 18:32:33 | webguest09 | i would really appreciate it |
| 18:32:37 | webguest09 | thnx |
| 18:32:41 | desowin | many people would |
| 18:32:46 | bluebrother | if you want to seriously work on Rockbox you'll find helpful people in here. |
| 18:33:25 | bluebrother | one of the big problems with the 2G is that everything is encrypted. Someone needs to find out how to run custom code, and in that case it's quite hard. |
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| 18:35:59 | webguest91 | what does it mean to be encrypted? |
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| 18:37:41 | desowin | "In cryptography, encryption is the process of transforming information to make it unreadable to anyone except those posessing special knowledge, usually referred to as a key." |
| 18:38:24 | webguest91 | oh that sucks |
| 18:38:35 | webguest91 | then you have to ask apple how to do it |
| 18:38:51 | desowin | s/ask apple/crack it/ |
| 18:39:34 | webguest91 | i doubt they would want to let u mess with it |
| 18:39:42 | webguest09 | u ask for me and everyone who want rockbox for second gen ipod nano |
| 18:39:43 | webguest09 | please |
| 18:39:48 | webguest91 | right? |
| 18:39:52 | webguest09 | pretty please witha cherry on top |
| 18:39:56 | desowin | if you believe they'll give you any info - you're wrong |
| 18:40:05 | webguest09 | hi aaron |
| 18:40:06 | webguest09 | wats up |
| 18:40:27 | webguest91 | my brother has a second gen and i have a 30g video |
| 18:40:31 | desowin | keep talk rockbox related |
| 18:40:40 | webguest91 | he is really jealous cause i have rockbox and he doesnt |
| 18:40:42 | webguest09 | ok |
| 18:40:44 | webguest09 | im sorry |
| 18:40:53 | webguest09 | releate |
| 18:40:54 | webguest09 | i will keep talk rockbox |
| 18:40:57 | webguest09 | d |
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| 18:56:28 | DerPapst | weee.. the webcam is up :-D |
| 18:57:11 | DerPapst | hi guys 'n girls |
| 18:57:15 | * | DerPapst waves |
| 18:57:21 | Bagder | a bit empty there still |
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| 19:00:58 | DerPapst | ah.. that is going to become better ;) |
| 19:01:17 | XavierGr | w00t webcam is on! Hi gals/gyus. |
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| 19:01:46 | Lars_G | I hope you guys can give me a quick hand |
| 19:01:46 | DerPapst | how often does it update? |
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| 19:02:02 | Bagder | DerPapst: not at all it looks like right now |
| 19:02:03 | DerPapst | no sorry. quick hands are empty |
| 19:02:19 | XavierGr | yeah I don't see it updating |
| 19:02:33 | Lars_G | my ipod nano rocbox install has troubles, I reinstalled yesterday, since the itunes forced me to reformat it, and I used the nano partition image to convert the part table to fat32 (in case it matters) |
| 19:02:44 | Lars_G | compiled a svn pull of yesterday and installed |
| 19:03:07 | Lars_G | now, rockbox runs, and I could unzip files in the ipod, but rockbox itself can't write to the disk/flash |
| 19:03:11 | DerPapst | Bagder: the image hasn't been updated since 7 minutes or so.. that's why i wondered. |
| 19:03:43 | Lars_G | if i save a config, it says "saved" but if I reset it is not saved. if I save a config (and the file is created) then I can't save any more configs after first write, it says failed |
| 19:03:54 | badsheepy | why did itunes force you to format it? |
| 19:04:17 | badsheepy | im sure thats not supposed to happen |
| 19:04:19 | Lars_G | and if I initialize the database, it can't save configs (failed) and I can't browse files anymore |
| 19:04:46 | Lars_G | if I interactively initialize the database, it reads all the files, and hangs there, I guess it can't write |
| 19:04:51 | Lars_G | the question is... why? |
| 19:04:57 | DerPapst | have you also formatted /dev/sdX2 then? |
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| 19:05:18 | DerPapst | or only dd'ed the new mbr to your pod? |
| 19:05:20 | Lars_G | badsheepy: suddenly all itunes started reporting the ipod was corrupted and the lists said the easiest route was to restore the ipod. |
| 19:05:29 | Llorean | So, perhaps the flash is bad |
| 19:05:33 | Lars_G | DerPapst: yes I formated the sda2 partition |
| 19:05:41 | Llorean | iTunes reports it's corrupted, and Rockbox has problems writing to it |
| 19:05:47 | Llorean | This does seem to suggest hardware failure of some sort |
| 19:05:59 | DerPapst | then i dunno. maybe Llorean is right |
| 19:06:06 | Lars_G | Llorean: see, thing is when itunes reported it corrup rockbox still could work perfectly |
| 19:06:16 | Lars_G | I reset it only to be able to drag songs from itunes |
| 19:06:33 | Llorean | So? |
| 19:06:48 | Lars_G | the flash also seems ok since after reiniting it I installed lots of songs on it via amarok yesterday and they're playing perfectly in rockbox |
| 19:06:54 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: I agree with that buttons change too, because most of the targets follow a similar patter in the center button |
| 19:06:57 | DerPapst | does the apple_fw have problems to? |
| 19:07:04 | Lars_G | the trouble only ocurrs when rockbox tries to write. |
| 19:07:06 | Llorean | Lars_G: Have you done any sort of filesystem check |
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| 19:07:12 | Lars_G | DerPapst: no the apple fw works |
| 19:07:25 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: though markun is opposed to that idea, so I don't think he will welcome that commit |
| 19:07:31 | Lars_G | no, let me fsck it |
| 19:07:36 | DerPapst | so it can read (and write)? |
| 19:08:06 | moos | XavierGr: hi, I'm not sure about this, markun isn't a disctator ;P |
| 19:08:14 | moos | dictator even |
| 19:08:57 | Lars_G | sigh |
| 19:09:08 | Lars_G | how was the test mode started on a nano? |
| 19:09:10 | XavierGr | well last time Llorean and me suggested that it should have been changed but markun was a little hesitant about it (I can understand his hesitation though if he is very used to that button) |
| 19:09:45 | Lars_G | nvmk |
| 19:10:24 | XavierGr | but it quite confusing I think, I have 4 rockbox targets and all of them except the gigabeat have the center button go to file browser (while in WPS). |
| 19:10:33 | moos | XavierGr: like always, we don't care at all about OFs behaviours, and that is the only point IIRC then I assume markun will folow the majority (markun: hey ;) |
| 19:10:34 | Lars_G | DerPapst: ok, Apple FW can read, but can't write either |
| 19:11:15 | DerPapst | how have you formatted your iPod? |
| 19:11:26 | moos | XavierGr: I'm all for the coherence too |
| 19:11:28 | XavierGr | moos: I don't know if the current mapping has anything to do with OF |
| 19:11:39 | Lars_G | mkfs.msdos -F 32 -n "xxx" /dev/sda2 |
| 19:11:46 | XavierGr | poor markun he must be around an airport atm :P |
| 19:11:47 | moos | that was the main point if I remenber correct |
| 19:11:57 | moos | hehe indeed :) |
| 19:12:03 | DerPapst | what does -n do? |
| 19:12:20 | Lars_G | DerPapst: sets volume name (wich becomes the ipod's name) |
| 19:12:30 | DerPapst | ah. k |
| 19:12:59 | moos | XavierGr: the current GB mapping is one of the points that made me still using my iaudio daily |
| 19:13:33 | moos | the other main point is the insuficent HD (40 GB for now) |
| 19:13:37 | XavierGr | well yes it can be confusing (not so much from keeping me from using it though) |
| 19:13:41 | DerPapst | Lars_G: and if you add -S 512 just to make sure? |
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| 19:14:30 | Lars_G | sigh |
| 19:14:33 | Lars_G | and lose all again |
| 19:14:35 | moos | XavierGr: 2 differents ways for do the same thing isn't very KISS for my taste |
| 19:15:07 | moos | that's a bit a taste of keys imho |
| 19:15:20 | DerPapst | Lars_G: otherwise i'm out of ideas. |
| 19:15:29 | * | moos is thinking to his iaudio and ondio with a lack of buttons |
| 19:15:30 | XavierGr | as I said, I agree with the change, I will welcome it for sure |
| 19:15:35 | toffe82 | who is who on the webcam picture ? |
| 19:15:49 | XavierGr | bagder, amiconn and pixelma I guess |
| 19:15:50 | moos | Linus in first point |
| 19:16:01 | XavierGr | linus |
| 19:16:04 | Lars_G | I'll fsck, otherwise I'll reinit it on a windows machine if I can get a friend to loan me a windows machine |
| 19:16:09 | XavierGr | yeah sorry Linus :P |
| 19:16:25 | moos | hehe :) |
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| 19:16:40 | moos | not that Linus and bagder looks the same ;P |
| 19:16:42 | Lars_G | or init it in hfs and shoot myself |
| 19:17:00 | DerPapst | hehe |
| 19:17:02 | XavierGr | where is bagder btw? |
| 19:17:11 | amiconn | Not yet here |
| 19:17:14 | DerPapst | here in irc :P |
| 19:17:45 | Lars_G | and the snake? |
| 19:17:49 | Lars_G | where's the snake? |
| 19:17:49 | moos | hehe still the same pic :) |
| 19:18:20 | XavierGr | so, any devcon hacks or confernces yet? |
| 19:18:33 | DerPapst | awww.. this semi broken 3G is giving me a headace. |
| 19:18:43 | moos | isn't officially starting tommorow? |
| 19:18:48 | XavierGr | (I guess conspiracy conferences will have to wait until all of the gang is there) |
| 19:18:54 | moos | hehe :) |
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| 19:22:55 | Lars_G | fuck this, I'll reformat it as apple again and then as windows tonight |
| 19:24:06 | DerPapst | restore it in wondows. |
| 19:24:16 | DerPapst | it's easier :P |
| 19:25:18 | Lars_G | if you have it |
| 19:25:22 | Lars_G | wondows that is |
| 19:25:31 | * | pixelma bets that restoring it in wondows would be harder... |
| 19:25:40 | pixelma | too slow |
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| 19:26:40 | DerPapst | well. but then he doesn'T have to dd a new mbr to the iPod and fromwat it again. |
| 19:26:50 | DerPapst | *format |
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| 19:26:57 | * | DerPapst sucks at typing |
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| 19:28:00 | Lars_G | sigh |
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| 19:29:00 | toffe82 | are they in the fourth dimension :) they don't move so much |
| 19:30:26 | Domonoky | someone on the Devcon should kick the Webcam :-) |
| 19:31:14 | Llorean | If the diagnostic mode couldn't write to the flash, I kinda doubt anything he can do will improve matters |
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| 19:31:23 | DerPapst | Linus is typing for hours in the same position :P |
| 19:31:34 | LinusN | :-) |
| 19:31:57 | * | Soap suspects a plot. |
| 19:32:20 | pearldiver | lol |
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| 19:37:50 | toffe82 | I think they just lock the camera because they are behind the wall drinking beer ;) |
| 19:37:54 | bluebrother | nice. me has now the webcam picture in a window without toolbars or borders |
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| 19:38:36 | DerPapst | wheee |
| 19:38:36 | pixelma | toffe82: exactly ;) |
| 19:38:46 | amiconn | toffe82: petur didn't arrive with the beer yet... |
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| 19:39:16 | DerPapst | but i bet there are stores where you can buy beer as well |
| 19:39:32 | n1s | DerPapst: not at this hour in sweden |
| 19:39:40 | DerPapst | mhh. true |
| 19:39:47 | bluebrother | Bagder: care to add a link like this to the devcon page? I find it very nice ... <a href='javascript:void(0)' onclick='open("http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/webcam.html","private","scrollbars=0,toolbar=0,resizeable=0,width=660,height=500")'>click here to open webcam window</a> |
| 19:39:52 | artistan | quick question, i'm trying to understand the rockbox source code to play with it, where exactly is the entry point in the firmware? |
| 19:39:54 | Llorean | Either the Sansa needs a lot more shielding than it has, or I think we're doing something wrong. |
| 19:40:08 | Llorean | There's a ridiculous amount of noise when the backlight is on, and when buffering. |
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| 19:41:41 | DerPapst | aren't there any petrol stations where you can still buy stuff? i still have about 18 minutes to buy something :P |
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| 19:43:13 | Cassandra | Hello from Devcon |
| 19:43:23 | bluebrother | DerPapst, 17 minutes? The local supermarket here closes at 21h |
| 19:43:33 | bluebrother | hej to devcon :) |
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| 19:44:58 | * | DerPapst is putting a graphicscard cooler on his ipod. |
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| 19:45:11 | DerPapst | it's getting hot ^^ |
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| 19:46:06 | DerPapst | now i only need a fan |
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| 19:55:10 | toolmanwill | hey dont you guys move?? your frozen in time, lol |
| 19:55:59 | bluebrother | no, we never move |
| 19:56:22 | bluebrother | the one moving first looses. You lost :p |
| 19:56:40 | toolmanwill | hahahahaha |
| 19:57:04 | bluebrother | so, any way to help you except explaining the movement rules? |
| 19:57:49 | toolmanwill | nope am here to check out 2nd anual devcon |
| 19:58:02 | bluebrother | hey, another picture from the webcam :) |
| 19:58:18 | toolmanwill | ahh theres movement |
| 19:58:35 | toolmanwill | and magically another person appears |
| 19:58:47 | bluebrother | hehe. The magic of open source :) |
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| 19:59:45 | toolmanwill | its so cool you guys do this. long live rockbox!!! |
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| 20:02:51 | toffe82 | hey they moved :) |
| 20:03:08 | Cassandra | I promise I'm not actually asleep. I think the webcam is at a weird angle. |
| 20:03:18 | bluebrother | toffe82, notices Cassandra magically appearing? |
| 20:04:01 | DerPapst | a new picture :Dw |
| 20:04:29 | DerPapst | -w |
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| 20:07:01 | Cassandra | Linus says we're four people sitting staring at a webcam of ourselves. Aren't we having a god time! |
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| 20:07:41 | * | leftright waves at the ladies and gents |
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| 20:08:49 | leftright | this feels a bit like stalking, one way webcam |
| 20:09:03 | bluebrother | someone record golden quotes so we can distribute it as first-play-tracks with rockbox ;-) |
| 20:09:52 | Cassandra | pixelma jjust pointed out that all the women involved in rockbox are now at Devcon. |
| 20:10:02 | Cassandra | On that note, I'm off to get coffee. |
| 20:10:25 | leftright | heh, outstanding, you should make the guys fetch and carry |
| 20:10:30 | toolmanwill | lol |
| 20:10:50 | Llorean | If the user ratio holds to the developer ratio, that means we should have about 60 developers. |
| 20:11:35 | Llorean | At least according to the forum software, there's a 30:1 ratio of guys to girls (who've registered and admitted to their gender) |
| 20:13:01 | bluebrother | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/svn/ indicates 75 developers |
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| 20:14:17 | Cassandra | My long term goal is to make Rockbox so mainstream more women will use it. |
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| 20:14:38 | leftright | putting a mirror on all DAP's |
| 20:14:42 | Juice^ | just make a pink theme .. |
| 20:14:54 | Cassandra | But I still don't think we'll get many developers. Nearly every company I've worked for I've been the only female techy. |
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| 20:15:07 | Cassandra | I f***ing hate pink. |
| 20:15:13 | Cassandra | Maybe I'm not a real girl. |
| 20:15:13 | * | bluebrother once saw a mobile phone which was indeed a mirror rather than a phone |
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| 20:15:40 | leftright | thats why the pods have a shiny chrome finish, for the ladies |
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| 20:16:02 | Llorean | Most of the girls I know would prefer to use Rockbox, if they had players that supported it |
| 20:16:09 | bluebrother | but why did apple remove that on the 2G nano? |
| 20:16:13 | Llorean | Heck, my mother even wanted to purchase a Gigabeat to replace her iPod 5G |
| 20:16:31 | leftright | well, drag and drop is way simpler than itunes, methinks.. |
| 20:16:34 | Cassandra | I have to confess to having used my iPod as a mirror now and then. |
| 20:16:47 | Cassandra | Guess my gender is safe after all. |
| 20:16:51 | * | pixelma is with Cassandra on pink... |
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| 20:17:23 | Llorean | Speaking of Themes |
| 20:17:31 | Cassandra | Were we? |
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| 20:17:45 | Llorean | Well, someone mentioned a pink one |
| 20:17:49 | leftright | paul has an active imagination |
| 20:18:09 | bluebrother | hmm. How about a pink theme for a greyscale target? :P |
| 20:18:10 | Llorean | Has anyone tried that theme that Denny was offering as an option for Default? |
| 20:18:25 | toffe82 | perhaps you could make a devcon theme :) |
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| 20:18:41 | Cassandra | With webcam images? |
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| 20:18:50 | toffe82 | why not |
| 20:18:56 | leftright | heh, wait hours for it to boot |
| 20:18:56 | bluebrother | sounds cool. Like the truman show poster |
| 20:19:01 | Cassandra | Because it's a really terrible idea. |
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| 20:19:33 | toffe82 | or with a bottle of beer |
| 20:19:40 | bluebrother | but definitely not suited for a theme |
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| 20:20:31 | bluebrother | but speaking of danny: I looked at the theme, but (as most themes) the greyscale version looks poor compared to the colored IMO |
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| 20:20:38 | bluebrother | and as I don't have any color targets ... |
| 20:20:40 | Cassandra | Llorean: BTW, why is boxes unsuitable as a default theme - does everyone hate it, or is it just that it's a bit out of date? |
| 20:21:02 | Cassandra | (I don't have an axe to grind - I just wonder if it's worth fixing properly or not.) |
| 20:21:09 | Llorean | Cassandra: It wasn't really discussed, because it was out of date / not all targets. |
| 20:21:29 | Llorean | I personally rather liked Boxes, but the only ones discussed were ROCKBoxed and iAmp, if I recall, because they had versions for all screens. |
| 20:22:10 | bluebrother | I also guess most people will prefer a proportional font |
| 20:22:31 | Llorean | Well Boxes works with any 8-high font, right? |
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| 20:27:28 | XavierGr | lol cassandra, only to think that I've mapped your nick with colour pink on my irc script. (as I have mapped many major rockbox developers with various colours, it seems you got the lucky pink :P) |
| 20:29:00 | pixelma | Llorean: should be iCatcher not iAmp, right? |
| 20:29:11 | Cassandra | llorean: right |
| 20:29:22 | Llorean | pixelma: Right |
| 20:29:23 | Llorean | iCatcher |
| 20:29:35 | * | Llorean can't keep themes straight. |
| 20:29:37 | Cassandra | Although I think I used a larger one on the H3xx. |
| 20:30:16 | Cassandra | I'm going to forgive you by claiming it's purple. |
| 20:30:34 | Llorean | Purple is a find, upstanding color. |
| 20:30:36 | Llorean | fine |
| 20:30:41 | * | Llorean sighs and gives up on typing straight. |
| 20:31:04 | leftright | purple is the colour of royality in thailand |
| 20:31:36 | Llorean | It's royalty in many places. |
| 20:31:36 | Cassandra | (see the web cam) |
| 20:31:45 | * | DerPapst spots a pink iPod (?) in cassandras hand |
| 20:31:45 | * | leftright is loaded with useless info |
| 20:31:59 | Llorean | In the old days proper purple dye was vastly more expensive, so royalty and nobility were often the only ones who could afford it. |
| 20:31:59 | Cassandra | It's *purple*! |
| 20:32:02 | leftright | heh, way to go your highness |
| 20:32:06 | * | DerPapst hides |
| 20:32:36 | Llorean | All of my MP3 players are silver, black, or a combination of the two, with th exception of the Arhcos |
| 20:32:38 | leftright | your wish is my command |
| 20:33:20 | XavierGr | ehm, who is the man with the beard again? |
| 20:34:30 | pixelma | it's markun or LinusN (with the smaller beard ;) ) |
| 20:34:46 | XavierGr | ah markun arrived? |
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| 20:34:57 | * | markun has a blue rockbox shirt and beard |
| 20:35:04 | XavierGr | Hello markun! |
| 20:35:06 | bluebrother | oh. I wondered about that too, but the website states markun arrives later ... |
| 20:35:10 | XavierGr | nice to see you on Devcon |
| 20:35:11 | Cassandra | A blue beard! |
| 20:35:25 | pearldiver | lol |
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| 20:35:34 | LinusN | ok ok i shaved this morning |
| 20:35:46 | leftright | you guys really dont have to pretend to be busy for us, really :-> |
| 20:35:51 | Cassandra | I didn't/ |
| 20:36:17 | bluebrother | hmm. How much is the lag of the webcam? |
| 20:37:24 | benanne | Hello everyone, I've been using Rockbox on my ipod nano for quite some time now, and I thought it'd be interesting to update it sometime... seeing as I seem to recall I have an alpha version on there right now.. at least a year old. |
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| 20:37:58 | benanne | I'm trying to decide whats the best way to go about this... would it make sense to restore it in its original condition (apple firmware) first? Or can I just replace some files and be done with it? |
| 20:38:37 | bluebrother | benanne, update the bootloader using ipodpatcher and unzipping a current build should be sufficient |
| 20:38:37 | n1s | benanne: you would also have to update the bootloader |
| 20:38:53 | benanne | okay, I'll see where that gets me, thanks :) |
| 20:38:54 | DerPapst | you have to install a newer bootloader and replace .rockbox |
| 20:39:05 | benanne | alright :) |
| 20:39:08 | bluebrother | but installing the bootloader got a lot easier since a year ago |
| 20:39:14 | benanne | oh, great |
| 20:39:16 | benanne | I'll scour the manual |
| 20:39:26 | bluebrother | you can just install it again, it will update automatically |
| 20:39:29 | XavierGr | have to run, happy hacking... |
| 20:39:33 | bluebrother | (the bootloader that is) |
| 20:39:44 | benanne | so I just follow the steps in the manual then :) |
| 20:39:47 | Sivart0 | hello everybody :P |
| 20:39:52 | bluebrother | yup. |
| 20:39:58 | benanne | alright, great. Thanks! |
| 20:42:15 | moos | markun: convert amiconn to gigabeats ; ) |
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| 20:45:01 | pixelma | moos: forget it... |
| 20:45:21 | Genre9mp3 | Hi all! |
| 20:45:39 | moos | pixelma: I know that was a joke :) |
| 20:45:49 | moos | hello Genre9mp3! |
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| 20:46:45 | Genre9mp3 | I've made it! I'm out while the Devcon is in place :) |
| 20:47:05 | toffe82 | markun: take the order, I will provide them ;) |
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| 20:47:18 | moos | Genre9mp3: welcome back |
| 20:47:44 | * | Genre9mp3 greets all the DevCon participants! |
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| 21:00:26 | Domonoky | ei, a new face on devcon.. :-) |
| 21:00:34 | Domonoky | has the beer arrived ? :-) |
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| 21:01:10 | amiconn | nope |
| 21:01:23 | LinusN | why are averyone asking about the beer? |
| 21:01:35 | amiconn | Because it's a trigger word... |
| 21:01:39 | LinusN | are we that boring? |
| 21:01:45 | Domonoky | hehe |
| 21:02:02 | a1titude | hi, I know this is going to sound wierd, but I'm intrested in learning C, can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 21:02:20 | * | leftright points to books |
| 21:02:47 | gotthardt | a1titude: http://www.nongnu.org/c-prog-book/online/index.html |
| 21:03:55 | gotthardt | a1titude: and then write the game of tetris... that should get you going |
| 21:03:57 | toolmanwill | ha, was gonna ask about the beer earlier |
| 21:04:02 | toolmanwill | thought it was too early tho |
| 21:04:22 | a1titude | ha, thank you |
| 21:05:09 | gotthardt | a1titude: no kidding - writing a game will make you learn, and the graphic output gives instant feedback on mistakes - good luck! |
| 21:05:12 | a1titude | so linux then... I've used Ubuntu Before, but it seemed kinda bloated... And recomendations on one? |
| 21:05:31 | toolmanwill | quite a collection on DAP's on those tables :D |
| 21:05:52 | toolmanwill | *of |
| 21:06:00 | gotthardt | a1titude: ubunutu is good - arch is good - use xubuntu for lightweight |
| 21:06:02 | bluebrother | a1titude, that's quite a different question −− too much opinions out there. Personally I prefer fedora |
| 21:06:27 | Genre9mp3 | lot of DAPs on Linus desk....me jealous |
| 21:06:28 | a1titude | ha, thanks I have VMWare, so I guess I have freedom to experement |
| 21:06:39 | badsheepy | for small things, i like debian net installs |
| 21:06:39 | Galois | at the risk of starting a flamewar, I think any aspiring developer should really be using fedora or gentoo |
| 21:06:50 | badsheepy | gentoo is a gimmick os :P |
| 21:07:02 | * | bluebrother notices a flamewar trigger :p |
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| 21:07:11 | a1titude | gentoo looks really good, just the 20 hour and such setup haha :p |
| 21:07:15 | Domonoky | you can even develop rockbox on windows, so OS dont count here :-) |
| 21:07:22 | webguest01 | How do i get all the good font that are on word onto rockbox on my ipod? |
| 21:07:36 | bluebrother | word? What is that? |
| 21:07:44 | bluebrother | *g* |
| 21:08:22 | webguest01 | on microsoft word |
| 21:08:25 | webguest01 | sorry about that |
| 21:08:34 | webguest01 | i meant the fonts that are on microsoft word |
| 21:08:38 | * | bluebrother sighs |
| 21:08:44 | benanne | yay, the new version is installed :) |
| 21:08:53 | bluebrother | you mean the true type fonts that are available on windows |
| 21:08:54 | benanne | now I need to reinstall the skin |
| 21:09:05 | webguest01 | bluebrother: yes |
| 21:09:17 | Galois | a bleeding edge system is essential for a developer, especially a developer who is in it for the learning |
| 21:09:20 | bluebrother | there's a converter in the forums, just search for it. But it will most likely not look good because of interpolation |
| 21:09:36 | bluebrother | Rockbox uses bitmap fonts while ttf is a vector format |
| 21:09:42 | webguest01 | then where do i get the fonts from rockbox? |
| 21:09:53 | a1titude | ha |
| 21:09:56 | bluebrother | you installed the fonts package, did you? |
| 21:10:24 | pearldiver | i see naked markun |
| 21:10:24 | bluebrother | oh, shirt switching time? |
| 21:10:30 | markun | oooh! |
| 21:10:34 | markun | ;) |
| 21:10:42 | markun | yes, baby blue is so pase |
| 21:11:21 | webguest01 | yes i have installed the fonts package |
| 21:11:29 | a1titude | Whats a bleeding edge system? |
| 21:11:39 | bluebrother | something that hurts using ;-) |
| 21:12:06 | bluebrother | "bleeding edge" usually refers to a system with all packages being up-to-date, if not even newer. |
| 21:12:24 | amiconn | Rockbox shirt upgrade completed ;) |
| 21:12:29 | badsheepy | id completely disagree |
| 21:12:45 | badsheepy | a bleeding edge system means binutils breaks for no reason and you have no idea why for 13 months |
| 21:12:52 | LinusN | we have bleeding edge shirts |
| 21:12:54 | bluebrother | *g* |
| 21:13:36 | toolmanwill | lol |
| 21:13:38 | Galois | too much of a bleeding edge is bad even for a learning environment. Gentoo is arguably heading in that direction. |
| 21:13:39 | a1titude | ha |
| 21:13:55 | Galois | Linux From Scratch is definitely too much of a bleeding edge and for that reason I would not recommend it |
| 21:14:31 | markun | moos: I'll do my best :) |
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| 21:15:22 | toffe82 | what is there in the mugs, beer or not yet ;) |
| 21:15:31 | toolmanwill | only coffee so far |
| 21:15:31 | DerPapst | ^^ |
| 21:15:41 | bluebrother | isn't the beer still travelling? ;-) |
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| 21:16:03 | toolmanwill | lol its till in transity |
| 21:16:07 | toolmanwill | oops transit |
| 21:16:18 | webguest02 | The fonts that i got from the package are very wierd |
| 21:16:32 | webguest02 | they are called like nimbus and other wierd ones like that |
| 21:16:37 | webguest02 | how do i get the better ones |
| 21:16:40 | a1titude | Thanks everyone, you've been a big help, now to start testing linux distros in vmware! haha |
| 21:16:49 | DerPapst | make them yourself? |
| 21:16:55 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 21:16:55 | webguest02 | do they come with the theme |
| 21:17:08 | Topic | "no - the beer hasn't arrived yet" by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
| 21:17:44 | DerPapst | haha |
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| 21:17:49 | Lars_G | I am at work |
| 21:18:25 | bluebrother | webguest02, define "better". The fonts might have weird names in your opinion, but that doesn't imply they look bad. |
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| 21:18:42 | * | dan_a realises why he isn't at Devcon! |
| 21:18:43 | bluebrother | in fact. simiply converting vector fonts will look worse |
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| 21:19:06 | bluebrother | dan_a: because of the beer? Or the shirts? |
| 21:19:17 | bluebrother | ;) |
| 21:19:26 | toolmanwill | fuck all three, beer shirts and that nifty mug |
| 21:19:46 | dan_a | bluebrother: No beer there yet :D |
| 21:19:54 | bluebrother | hehe |
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| 21:20:15 | bluebrother | oh, fontguest left. |
| 21:20:21 | pearldiver | i dont see any gigabeats on the tables |
| 21:20:24 | toolmanwill | lol |
| 21:20:53 | pixelma | pearldiver: look closer |
| 21:21:33 | pearldiver | oh there's one, at least it looks like a gigabeat |
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| 21:21:38 | markun | pearldiver: I hold mine up |
| 21:21:52 | pearldiver | haha |
| 21:21:53 | pearldiver | see it |
| 21:22:01 | gotthardt | markun: has one! |
| 21:22:04 | pixelma | LinusN also got one |
| 21:22:04 | pearldiver | it glows lol |
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| 21:23:20 | B4gder | moo |
| 21:23:32 | desowin | will you publish best shots from webcam ? |
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| 21:25:55 | obo | B4gder has super cow powers? |
| 21:26:04 | Cassandra | And in the latest Devcon news. Still no beer. |
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| 21:26:35 | webguest49 | can someone please assist me on how to load the ipod linux boot loader |
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| 21:27:42 | B4gder | linus and christi took off for food |
| 21:27:59 | desowin | webguest49: ipodlinux bootloader isn't supported by rockbox, try #ipodlinux |
| 21:28:12 | obo_ | any news on the e200 radio support? |
| 21:28:18 | bluebrother | webguest49, you can load IPL using the Rockbox bootloader |
| 21:28:22 | webguest49 | yes it is supported |
| 21:29:11 | bluebrother | no: Loader2 supports loading Rockbox. Loader2 isn't supported by Rockbox |
| 21:29:14 | dan_a | obo_: I'm going to have a play with the SD card and the radio tonight |
| 21:29:40 | obo_ | dan_a I heard that it's usable, just not loud enough? |
| 21:29:54 | chrisjs169 | obo_: I believe that's about right |
| 21:30:06 | dan_a | obo_: I thought that the volume problem had been solved, but the tuning wasn't accurate |
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| 21:30:18 | webguest49 | with the loader 2 i can select when first turing on the ipod what i want to run, the apple version or the rockbox version rite |
| 21:30:24 | dan_a | But I've not been keeping up with Rockbox lately |
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| 21:30:46 | bluebrother | you can do that with the rockbox bootloader too, you only won't get a nice graphical screen |
| 21:30:49 | obo_ | dan_a : is that issue specific to the radio, or the entire DAC? |
| 21:31:02 | bluebrother | but again, Loader2 isn't supported here −− it's IPL software, not Rockbox |
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| 21:32:03 | webguest49 | i downloaded the rockbox boot loader but doesnt work |
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| 21:32:20 | webguest49 | in order to go to the regular apple version i have to keep the hold on while turing on the ipod |
| 21:32:30 | dan_a | obo: As I understand it, the radio was a lot quieter than the other audio |
| 21:32:37 | n1s | webguest49: that's how it's supposed to work |
| 21:32:43 | obo | dan_a: wrong obo :( |
| 21:32:52 | webguest49 | so that is what the boot loader does |
| 21:33:13 | bluebrother | webguest49, "doesn't work" is quite a bad description. |
| 21:34:14 | bluebrother | as I said, there is no graphical chooser. |
| 21:34:41 | bluebrother | and for loading IPL using the Rockbox bootloader you need to set it up properly −− it won't work out of the box |
| 21:34:50 | DerPapst | webguest49: if you want loader 2 make sure you are using the latest version (2.5). Otherwise you might not be able to start rockbox. |
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| 21:50:57 | BigMac | Hey it says I need SDL for making the simulator, but I can't install it through sudo apt-get install SDL |
| 21:51:03 | BigMac | what should I be typing |
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| 21:52:48 | * | alberink congratulates the developers on another DevCon. Have fun |
| 21:52:54 | | Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) |
| 21:53:20 | * | alberink can't wait, and therefore cracks open his beer already... |
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| 21:54:57 | n1s | BigMac: install libsdl1.2-dev |
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| 21:56:13 | BigMac | nls: ah thanks |
| 21:56:38 | chrisjs169 | yay |
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| 21:56:44 | * | chrisjs169 is getting an RMA :) |
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| 21:57:11 | webguest63 | How do i install rockboy onto rockbox? |
| 21:57:13 | bluebrother | BigMac, apt-cache search <foo> is sometimes quite nice ;-) |
| 21:57:20 | bluebrother | webguest63, you don't install it. |
| 21:57:27 | webguest63 | why |
| 21:57:29 | bluebrother | rockboy comes shipped with a standard build |
| 21:57:39 | bluebrother | it's a viewer. Just run a gameboy rom file |
| 21:57:39 | webguest63 | then how do i put it on my ipod |
| 21:57:43 | bluebrother | the manual explains this. |
| 21:57:48 | webguest63 | which manual |
| 21:57:53 | bluebrother | the rockbox manual |
| 21:58:04 | webguest63 | for ipod video sinice i have an ipod video |
| 21:58:08 | bluebrother | take a look at the left-side menu of the website |
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| 21:58:48 | bluebrother | there is a section labelled "documentation", and that has a link called "manual". Try following this link |
| 21:59:11 | chrisjs169 | webguest63: all you need to do is find a gameboy rom, save it to your ipod and open the file in rockbox |
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| 22:00:01 | webguest63 | oh ok |
| 22:00:16 | bluebrother | follow the blue link :) |
| 22:00:49 | bluebrother | as you found the irc link I bet this isn't hard to do. |
| 22:01:27 | webguest63 | i went to a website called PDroms |
| 22:01:31 | webguest63 | and they have gamboy games |
| 22:01:37 | webguest63 | i just extract them to my ipod |
| 22:01:41 | webguest63 | and it will work |
| 22:01:56 | * | dan_a wonders why "food" is in quotes on the Devcon page |
| 22:03:00 | Llorean | Well, I mean, I eat Taco Bell, but some people might hesitate to qualify it as just food, without the quotes to suggest there could be some argument |
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| 22:03:45 | webguest63 | Its not working |
| 22:03:52 | webguest63 | i put the game onto my ipod and it didnt work |
| 22:03:53 | dan_a | It just sounds to me like LinusN and Christi have slipped out for... something other than food |
| 22:04:13 | bluebrother | beer? |
| 22:04:18 | bluebrother | ah, forgot the topic ;-) |
| 22:04:36 | leftright | is there any chance of making the record button on the h1xx series do something usefull, i.e. quick access for playlist |
| 22:04:39 | * | dan_a pours himself another Stoli while waiting for Rockbox to compile |
| 22:04:55 | pearldiver | what's the machine on the front left (camera wise) table? |
| 22:04:55 | Llorean | leftright: Well, it does need to do something, yes. |
| 22:05:17 | webguest63 | Help me on Rockboy please |
| 22:05:25 | leftright | activating recording would also be nice |
| 22:07:14 | dan_a | webguest63: What have you done, and what happens? |
| 22:07:16 | alberink | dan_a: prosit! Although I'll keep it to Grolsch |
| 22:07:39 | webguest63 | i went to PDroms.com |
| 22:07:50 | webguest63 | then i extracted the game onto my ipod |
| 22:07:57 | webguest63 | and under files it says the games name |
| 22:08:00 | webguest63 | but doesnt work |
| 22:08:26 | bluebrother | please refine "doesn't work". What exactly happens? |
| 22:08:32 | dan_a | What extension does the game have? IIRC, it should be something .gb |
| 22:09:24 | webguest63 | its a GPE file |
| 22:09:34 | webguest63 | actually |
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| 22:09:41 | webguest63 | where can i find roms from anyways |
| 22:10:05 | desowin | not here for sure |
| 22:10:14 | webguest63 | then |
| 22:10:15 | webguest63 | where |
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| 22:10:25 | bluebrother | ask google |
| 22:10:32 | bluebrother | what is gpe? |
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| 22:10:43 | dan_a | webguest63: GPE files appear to be for the GP2X |
| 22:10:53 | webguest63 | oh |
| 22:12:25 | alberink | an overview picture with a who's who on the webcam would be nice... :) |
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| 22:13:13 | desowin | markun is second from right at back from what I know |
| 22:13:31 | AceNik | hey anyone plays spider solitare on the computer, can v port it to rockbox |
| 22:13:36 | bluebrother | who's the guy with the wrong shirt? |
| 22:13:37 | desowin | looking at webcam he's from left |
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| 22:14:48 | desowin | damn I stated it wrong |
| 22:14:54 | Zagor | it's not the wrong shirt, it's THE ORIGINAL :-) |
| 22:15:10 | markun | desowin: I should be in the middle now |
| 22:15:11 | desowin | currently 3rd person looking from left is markun |
| 22:15:31 | bluebrother | ah :) |
| 22:15:59 | desowin | is amiconn at the right of you markun ? |
| 22:16:10 | desowin | I mean your left |
| 22:16:19 | markun | yes, my left |
| 22:16:31 | markun | sitting next to his sister |
| 22:16:49 | alberink | That's his sister?... |
| 22:16:54 | bluebrother | ok, from left to right it's Zagor, Bagder, markun, amiconn and pixelma |
| 22:17:06 | * | alberink always thought that amiconn and pixelma were a couple... |
| 22:17:10 | bluebrother | and the front is Cassandra on the left, and LinusN on the right |
| 22:17:13 | * | Zagor runs around to confuse people |
| 22:17:16 | * | alberink hangs head in shame... |
| 22:17:19 | bluebrother | someone correct me if I'm wrong ;-) |
| 22:17:25 | AceNik | what pictures are these markun |
| 22:17:28 | pixelma | alberink: wow... |
| 22:17:38 | desowin | Zagor: heh, you have different shirt ;-) |
| 22:17:39 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/webcam.html |
| 22:17:55 | alberink | pixelma: sorry... :) |
| 22:18:04 | * | alberink assumes too much... |
| 22:18:04 | AceNik | did it already happen ? |
| 22:18:16 | markun | AceNik: happening right now! |
| 22:18:20 | AceNik | oh ya i forot ul met up today |
| 22:18:24 | alberink | to assume is to make an ass of u and me.. |
| 22:18:49 | desowin | Cassandra looks great when she has her face on monitor |
| 22:18:52 | bluebrother | oh, a big face in the cam ... |
| 22:18:59 | idnar | and assumption makes an ass out of u and some poor guy called "mption" |
| 22:19:32 | Cassandra | Thanks, desowin. :) |
| 22:19:58 | bluebrother | Cassandra, is that thing in front of you a tablet pc? |
| 22:20:10 | alberink | I was wondering the same... |
| 22:20:21 | bluebrother | looks a bit strange for a usual laptop |
| 22:21:20 | pearldiver | [16:04] <pearldiver> what's the machine on the front left (camera wise) table? |
| 22:21:23 | Cassandra | It is, yes. |
| 22:21:41 | * | alberink trembles with jealousy.. |
| 22:21:47 | Cassandra | I'm using a seperate USB keyboard and a portrait orientation. |
| 22:22:03 | Cassandra | Don't be too jealous. It's a 1Gz Pentium M. |
| 22:22:22 | alberink | Yeah, I know... Local IT guys weaned me off one also... |
| 22:22:59 | AceNik | so how is the devcon goin so far |
| 22:23:14 | desowin | AceNik: look at topic |
| 22:23:15 | Cassandra | Still no beer. |
| 22:23:24 | Cassandra | Apparently this is important.# |
| 22:23:38 | bluebrother | it is :p |
| 22:23:38 | alberink | inebriation always is... |
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| 22:32:34 | B4gder | spot the non-rockbox target on linus' desk! |
| 22:33:11 | pixelma | I thought there were two... |
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| 22:33:25 | bluebrother | hmm. Nano 2G? |
| 22:33:44 | B4gder | uhm, right there are two... |
| 22:33:49 | dan_a | Some tiny player on his left? |
| 22:33:50 | bluebrother | someone please zoom LinusN's desk for target identification ;-) |
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| 22:39:11 | mpeccorini | Hi all, I have submitted a small patch to add a menu to chessbox, should I expect the patch to be reviewed/(hopefully) commited any time soon or is everybody focused on Devcon right now? |
| 22:39:13 | AceNik | dominik u thr ? |
| 22:39:48 | markun | mpeccorini: I guess I could take a look at it |
| 22:40:03 | B4gder | devcon should rather be a better chance to get it in |
| 22:40:08 | mpeccorini | WOW ! thank you very much markun ! |
| 22:40:23 | simmel | btw, I really like the "Skip The in arist"-feature that "recently" came in. |
| 22:40:46 | mpeccorini | I wouldn't normally ask about this, but I need the patch commited so I can start in a whole new set of other features ;) |
| 22:41:54 | * | chrisjs169 hopes this RMA doesn't take long... |
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| 22:42:20 | mpeccorini | B4gder: I thought Devcon was more like a gathering to "talk" about the development rather than "work" in it. I'm I wrong? |
| 22:42:30 | B4gder | I think we'll manage both |
| 22:42:38 | mpeccorini | cool |
| 22:42:50 | LinusN | most of the time we will sit like this and stare at the webcam |
| 22:42:58 | mpeccorini | I hope one day I'll attend one |
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| 22:43:34 | mpeccorini | by the way, I was willing to ask, what does it take to become a "developer"? |
| 22:43:46 | mpeccorini | not that I'm asking for the title, just want to know |
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| 22:44:02 | Cassandra | Submit patches. Demonstrate clue. |
| 22:44:14 | Cassandra | Oh, and send me lots of money in a brown paper bag. |
| 22:44:20 | LinusN | if you write good patches, one day we will get tired of committing them, and you will get your own svn account |
| 22:44:25 | mpeccorini | :):):):) |
| 22:44:27 | bluebrother | why brown paper bag? |
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| 22:44:39 | LinusN | white bags are illegal in sweden |
| 22:44:43 | bluebrother | how about ping? *g* |
| 22:44:48 | bluebrother | s/ping/pink/ |
| 22:45:05 | B4gder | they don't exist! |
| 22:45:16 | bluebrother | right, it was purple |
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| 22:46:08 | mpeccorini | my daughter has some multicoloured, I might send you one of those |
| 22:46:10 | Cassandra | If you're going to give me money, it can be in a pink bag. It can even be fluffy. |
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| 22:46:35 | LinusN | i'll keep that in mind |
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| 22:47:07 | bluebrother | hey, how about adding a paypal donation banner to the webcam image? |
| 22:47:13 | k0rnz | does anyone know if rockbox has a built-in ebook reader for ipod 5th gen models? |
| 22:47:24 | mpeccorini | well, a more "technical" question, what is it left to port Rockbox to iPod Nano 2nd gen? |
| 22:47:27 | bluebrother | "donate now. may use paypal. may use pink paper bag. just donate now." |
| 22:47:37 | Llorean | mpeccorini: Well, everything after "Think about starting one" |
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| 22:47:47 | mpeccorini | I see |
| 22:47:48 | bluebrother | k0rnz, what do you mean with ebook reader? Like text to speech? |
| 22:48:05 | k0rnz | no to display pdf ebooks on ipod |
| 22:48:12 | k0rnz | thru the notes feature |
| 22:48:14 | mpeccorini | you mean a PDF reader? |
| 22:48:19 | k0rnz | yeah something like that |
| 22:48:26 | bluebrother | there is no pdf reader. |
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| 22:48:42 | bluebrother | you can view plain text files, but that's it. Not even a html viewer exists |
| 22:48:44 | Llorean | k0rnz: There is no "Notes" feature in Rockbox, either |
| 22:48:45 | mpeccorini | I don't see myself reading a book in my iPod :( |
| 22:49:02 | k0rnz | ok thanks |
| 22:49:10 | * | bluebrother whispers "pdftotext" |
| 22:49:11 | k0rnz | rockbox is awesome btw... |
| 22:49:17 | mpeccorini | bluebrother: I think I say an html viewer patch somewhere |
| 22:49:23 | mpeccorini | uncommited of course |
| 22:49:28 | mutantpineapple | i'd read books on mine |
| 22:49:38 | bluebrother | not exactly −− it's a "strip html to txt" thing |
| 22:49:41 | Cassandra | We'll perform tricks for donations. Linus has said he'll do a striptease if we get 1000 pounds. |
| 22:49:45 | k0rnz | yeah i need to convert a bunch of study guides to txt to read on my ipod |
| 22:49:45 | mpeccorini | well |
| 22:49:47 | k0rnz | thanks and bye |
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| 22:49:53 | Cassandra | Or was that *unless* we get 1000 pounds. |
| 22:49:55 | mpeccorini | yes, is something like that |
| 22:50:18 | Llorean | Unfortunately, you can't hold the webcam audience captive because they can just close the window |
| 22:50:24 | Llorean | Unfortunately, there are those of you stuck there in person... |
| 22:50:36 | Lars_G | Hmmm text to speech book reader would be cool |
| 22:50:48 | mpeccorini | definitely cool ! |
| 22:50:50 | bluebrother | tts is a SoC project iirc |
| 22:50:53 | markun | Lars_G: I hope it will be done after the summer |
| 22:51:00 | Lars_G | Llorean: there was a Ray Bradbury story. |
| 22:51:04 | markun | bluebrother: yes, I'm the mentor |
| 22:51:14 | bluebrother | markun: :) |
| 22:51:34 | bluebrother | let's see how much time I'll find during this summer ... |
| 22:51:41 | Lars_G | Llorean: About a woman that begins teaching in a school... martian I think, where all classes where done via "tv", and teachers had to devise tricks to keep their audience captive. |
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| 22:52:16 | Lars_G | Llorean: She comes from a classical teaching environment, and decides to setup a live old style classroom teaching. |
| 22:52:37 | mpeccorini | you can put a "mistery phrase" contest, so ppl has to look at all the words |
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| 22:53:29 | mpeccorini | and the winner gets to send Cassandra an orange envelope full of money :) |
| 22:53:42 | LinusN | orange and fluffy |
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| 22:54:30 | bluebrother | what currency? Lire? Pesos? Rubel? |
| 22:55:06 | mpeccorini | Colones from El Salvador (my country) |
| 22:55:36 | Lars_G | mpeccorini: Ah nice to see a southamerican. |
| 22:55:47 | mpeccorini | El Salvador is not in South America ! |
| 22:55:52 | mpeccorini | it's in Central America |
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| 22:55:58 | mpeccorini | ;) |
| 22:56:07 | Lars_G | :P details |
| 22:56:21 | mpeccorini | like 3000 kms of details |
| 22:56:51 | bluebrother | sounds like neighbourhood :P |
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| 22:57:18 | mpeccorini | I was exagerating, it's only about 1000 :p |
| 22:57:50 | mpeccorini | are you all european? |
| 22:58:07 | bluebrother | not all ... me is. |
| 22:58:21 | Llorean | I'm not. |
| 22:58:33 | Llorean | I live in the USA |
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| 22:58:49 | bluebrother | I guess the people on the list for DevConWest2007 are all from america |
| 22:59:14 | Llorean | I think they all are from the US, yeah |
| 22:59:18 | mpeccorini | Llorean: so you know where my country is, I hope. your country is packed with our people hahahaha |
| 22:59:21 | * | bluebrother remembers rasher.dk/rockbox/people/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/people/ |
| 22:59:42 | toffe82 | no no no not all US :) |
| 22:59:51 | Topic | "The beer has arrived!" by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:01 | bluebrother | \o/ |
| 23:00:19 | mpeccorini | toffe82: give us a couple more decades |
| 23:00:28 | Llorean | bluebrother: According to that we've got a lot of developers I've never heard of. |
| 23:00:35 | Cassandra | Ladies and gentlemen, we have BEER! |
| 23:00:42 | DerPapst | whats the difference between blue dots and red ones? |
| 23:00:43 | bluebrother | ladies and gentlemen, give the beer^H^H^H^Hpetur a very warm welcome :) |
| 23:00:57 | bluebrother | Cassandra, mail it to rb-dev ;-) |
| 23:01:10 | Cassandra | Oh, also Petur. |
| 23:01:13 | Llorean | DerPapst: Blue == Developer, Red == User, in theory |
| 23:01:19 | Cassandra | Still, it's not all bad. ;() |
| 23:01:20 | AceNik | hey guys check this site out www.openmoko.org , will it be possible for rockbox to join hands with them to make a common device with them |
| 23:01:22 | DerPapst | ah |
| 23:01:32 | dan_a | Yay! You have to try the Tripel Karmeliet |
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| 23:01:57 | Cassandra | AceNIk - I wrote to them a while back expressing interest. Never had a reply. |
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| 23:02:14 | toffe82 | mpeccorini: I was saying that people at devconwest are not all from US but leaving in the US |
| 23:02:42 | DerPapst | cool.. there is one dev from berlin :D |
| 23:03:32 | element_g | Soap here? |
| 23:03:36 | markun | DerPapst: just 1? |
| 23:03:40 | bluebrother | DerPapst, where are you located? (me isn't in Berlin) |
| 23:03:59 | AceNik | Cassandra: well would rockbox be interested in such a project ? |
| 23:04:04 | DerPapst | i'm from berlin |
| 23:04:13 | AceNik | Cassandra: or would it be a total diversion ? |
| 23:04:23 | DerPapst | but right now i'm in dresden (250km in the south of berlin) |
| 23:04:26 | mpeccorini | toffe82: sorry, the lines crossed :p |
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| 23:04:41 | Cassandra | AceNik: depends - how much money do you have to pay us. |
| 23:04:54 | Cassandra | I'll port Rockbox to anything for 20,000 UKP. |
| 23:05:05 | LinusN | to my car? |
| 23:05:07 | bluebrother | DerPapst, I know germany a bit ;-) |
| 23:05:14 | bluebrother | LOL |
| 23:05:23 | a1titude | haha I would love a rockbox car! haha |
| 23:05:43 | AceNik | Cassandra: you telling me , it can be ported to even nokia phones? |
| 23:05:55 | a1titude | sweet! Never thourght of that |
| 23:05:55 | Cassandra | Sure, Linus. Just hand me the money. |
| 23:05:59 | intgr | AceNik: Yes. |
| 23:06:59 | mutantpineapple | i need rockbox on my tshirt |
| 23:07:00 | intgr | But you probably don't want to exchange a phone for an MP3 player. |
| 23:07:43 | mpeccorini | we would need a rockbox "cell phone" plugin |
| 23:08:03 | DerPapst | lol @ webcam |
| 23:08:10 | bluebrother | oh, the last pic of the cam was hillarious |
| 23:08:18 | DerPapst | linus you are the greatest! |
| 23:08:21 | AceNik | ] intgr: well looking at what the future of the phone industry is i think they going in on developing a full trottle device , check sony's 4G phones, they like a computer |
| 23:08:29 | dan_a | How come Cassandra has all the beer?! |
| 23:08:50 | toffe82 | can we have a close up on the beer P) |
| 23:09:07 | intgr | AceNik: Well, Rockbox isn't an application, it's an operating system. |
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| 23:09:20 | Zagor | finally, life |
| 23:09:22 | Cassandra | Not just beer. Chocolate too. |
| 23:09:53 | dan_a | It looks like Bagder has all the crisps, though |
| 23:10:04 | B4gder | hey, I bought them! ;-) |
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| 23:10:43 | bluebrother | let the gaaaaammmmes begin! |
| 23:10:48 | * | bluebrother waves around with his arms |
| 23:10:54 | AceNik | ] intgr: check pvt |
| 23:11:10 | Zagor | one cpu is busted and makes everything hang. that was fun locating... |
| 23:11:31 | intgr | AceNik: If by "pvt" you mean private messages then I haven't received it, since unregistered users cannot send PMs on Freenode. |
| 23:11:58 | AceNik | ] intgr: will u join a channel then ,id be drifting away from rockbox fr a while |
| 23:12:11 | Zagor | so who wants an athlon mp2200+ for coaster? ;) |
| 23:13:02 | intgr | AceNik: I'm not even a Rockbox dev/user yet so I'm not sure if I have much to talk about. |
| 23:14:02 | a1titude | My webcam feed just cam up as green!? is this a glitch in the download of the image? |
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| 23:14:24 | Llorean | Yes |
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| 23:14:34 | a1titude | thanks |
| 23:14:38 | petur | tada... |
| 23:14:39 | bluebrother | I sometimes have distorted pictures too ... guess this is caused by the webserver serving incomplete images |
| 23:14:47 | * | bluebrother waves at petur |
| 23:15:02 | a1titude | well it adds some exsitement to the feed! haha |
| 23:15:05 | leftright | that beer needs to be chilled |
| 23:15:19 | a1titude | typo *excitement |
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| 23:15:35 | bluebrother | hmm, I can't see petur −− is there that much lag with the webcam? |
| 23:15:42 | * | leftright puts nag hat on |
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| 23:15:49 | florin | hello everybody |
| 23:15:56 | Sivart0 | hello |
| 23:16:09 | florin | i have problems installing rockbox on a 5g 30gb ipod |
| 23:16:13 | * | Sivart0 steals the beer |
| 23:16:15 | florin | can anyone help me? |
| 23:16:25 | Llorean | florin: What kind of problems? |
| 23:16:28 | bluebrother | florin, only if you tell us your problem |
| 23:16:30 | florin | it mainly stops at "Device is not an iPod" |
| 23:16:33 | florin | :-) |
| 23:16:42 | florin | though i know it _is_ one. |
| 23:16:44 | bluebrother | is the AppleOS working? |
| 23:16:49 | florin | yes, it is. |
| 23:16:56 | Llorean | Have you ever installed anything else on it before? |
| 23:16:56 | leftright | any plans for the H1xx record button ?, seems a waste to let it go unused |
| 23:16:57 | mpeccorini | you're probably giving the wrong number to ipodpatcher |
| 23:16:57 | florin | but the story is actually longer... |
| 23:17:05 | bluebrother | do you have admin rights? (assuming windows= |
| 23:17:14 | florin | ok |
| 23:17:17 | florin | the whole story: |
| 23:17:26 | Llorean | mpeccorini: ipodpatcher automatically detect, you don't give it a number. |
| 23:17:28 | florin | i'm working on macosx or, at choice, on linux |
| 23:17:35 | florin | it's (it was) a macpod. |
| 23:17:40 | AceNik | how many of you agree to this 4G phones basically a mini computer will dominate every device ? |
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| 23:17:51 | AceNik | check out sony's 4G phones |
| 23:17:55 | mpeccorini | Llorean: what? I had to give it a "device" number |
| 23:17:59 | florin | now it's being recognized as a "winpod", after lots of tippity-tap... |
| 23:18:02 | Llorean | mpeccorini: How long ago was this? |
| 23:18:07 | bluebrother | mpeccorini, that was changed a while ago |
| 23:18:11 | Llorean | AceNik: This is not a phone channel |
| 23:18:15 | mpeccorini | probably a month ago |
| 23:18:43 | AceNik | all im saying is considering to port rockbox on phones, all the more cause there is going to be a time things will combine |
| 23:18:56 | bluebrother | it was changed earlier. But you can still give it that number, so ... |
| 23:19:01 | Llorean | AceNik: The fact that they're basically computers suggests Rockbox should NOT be ported to them |
| 23:19:02 | florin | copying the mbr from rockbox.org's server to /dev/sdb (or /dev/disk1 for that matter) didn't do it... |
| 23:19:08 | mpeccorini | got it, got it |
| 23:19:16 | Llorean | AceNik: If they're multi-purpose computers, they don't need an operating system, they need an application. |
| 23:19:18 | florin | so the conversion was a bit tricky |
| 23:19:27 | B4gder | AceNik: we port rockbox to everything people do it for |
| 23:19:44 | florin | i dd'ed the original apple firmware from the original macpod to /tmp/firmware |
| 23:19:47 | mpeccorini | AceNik: sure, why not? |
| 23:20:01 | florin | then started "fdisk /dev/sdb -b 2048" |
| 23:20:09 | florin | and created windows partitions |
| 23:20:28 | AceNik | but the reason i say to port it as a operating system is because its a better thing as one , which will not serve justice to it as an application obviously |
| 23:20:29 | intgr | AceNik: People on computers want an *application* for listening to music, not replace their operating system. |
| 23:20:32 | DerPapst | maybe someone want to add the names? http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/rockbox/DevCon.jpg |
| 23:20:38 | bluebrother | hmm −− the 30GB has the 2048 block size? |
| 23:20:39 | florin | partition table looks like: |
| 23:20:42 | florin | Disk /dev/sdb: 30.0 GB, 30005821440 bytes |
| 23:20:42 | florin | 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 912 cylinders |
| 23:20:42 | florin | Units = cylinders of 16065 * 2048 = 32901120 bytes |
| 23:20:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK florin |
| 23:20:42 | florin | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
| 23:20:42 | florin | /dev/sdb1 1 3 96264 0 Empty |
| 23:20:43 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:20:43 | florin | /dev/sdb2 4 912 29206170 b W95 FAT32 |
| 23:20:54 | florin | (sorry for the intrusion :-) |
| 23:21:08 | florin | dd'ed /tmp/firmware back to /dev/sdb1 |
| 23:21:10 | mpeccorini | florin: go ahead, we're reading |
| 23:21:18 | AceNik | ] intgr: no one knows what extents rockbox can go to by poting them to better devices |
| 23:21:19 | bluebrother | florin, please use a pastebin for pastes like that |
| 23:21:21 | florin | and then mkfs.msdos on /dev/sdb2 |
| 23:21:39 | florin | copied the apple itunes directory structure back to /dev/sdb2 |
| 23:21:44 | florin | a voila −− a windows ipod :-) |
| 23:21:46 | | Part leftright |
| 23:21:52 | florin | apple is happy, ipod is happy, itunes is happy... |
| 23:21:53 | Llorean | AceNik: Rockbox would be a TERRIBLE operating system for a multi-purpose device. It wasn't designed as one. |
| 23:21:55 | intgr | AceNik: Rockbox is a simplistic RTOS, a single application can easily take down the whole device; you don't want that on a computer. |
| 23:21:56 | bluebrother | DerPapst, too bad petur is missing |
| 23:22:02 | florin | but the ipodpatcher is not :-( |
| 23:22:11 | intgr | Yes. |
| 23:22:17 | DerPapst | florin: what is the exact mkdos command? |
| 23:22:28 | florin | mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb2 |
| 23:22:40 | DerPapst | you'll have to add -S 2048 |
| 23:22:41 | florin | optionally mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sdb2 -s 2048 |
| 23:22:57 | florin | i mean -S 2048 |
| 23:23:01 | Domonoky | i think ipodpatcher checks for some magic on the drive.. i dont know for sure. |
| 23:23:14 | Llorean | Domonoky: As long as the MBR got applied properly, the magic *should* be there |
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| 23:23:25 | DerPapst | yep. somewhere on the fw partition |
| 23:23:27 | AceNik | im saying it can be possible to boot into or switch it into a different mode |
| 23:23:37 | florin | yes, i assume there's where the problam lies: i'm pretty sure that my partition layout differs from that of a winpod. |
| 23:23:42 | florin | (in partition sizes etc). |
| 23:23:53 | Llorean | florin: You need to use the MBRs from our site, or it won't work. |
| 23:24:10 | Llorean | AceNik: There's just no point in doing that. It's basically saying "A bunch of extra work should be done for no real benefity." |
| 23:24:23 | Llorean | You'd have to write drivers for all the hardware, etc, instead of just having an application. |
| 23:24:26 | florin | ok, i'll try... i ran into problems with that (linux wouldn't recognize the partition sizes correcly...) |
| 23:24:39 | Llorean | florin: 15gb partition instead of 30? |
| 23:24:40 | florin | but i can give it another try with you guys around :-) |
| 23:24:43 | florin | yes |
| 23:24:51 | Llorean | Yeah, there was something wrong with the file. |
| 23:24:53 | florin | and the firmware partition was too small. |
| 23:25:00 | Llorean | Unfortunately, I'm not sure we've got a good one yet, though |
| 23:25:08 | florin | something like 10-30 MB (don't recall quite correctly) |
| 23:25:16 | florin | my firmare is somewhere around 65 MB |
| 23:25:24 | florin | (or at least the dd'ed file) |
| 23:25:28 | AceNik | Llorean:agreed, given up , but there is a point somewhere if rockbox needs expanding anytime with popularity & mass of people usin it , it has to be this kind of a device |
| 23:25:37 | DerPapst | thats right so far :P |
| 23:25:43 | Llorean | AceNik: No, it doesn't have to be to that sort of device, at all. |
| 23:25:49 | Llorean | It *can* be |
| 23:25:59 | florin | so what now? download a new mbr and try it again? from linux? |
| 23:26:07 | AceNik | Llorean: i just feel since rockbox has come this far , it should expand with either its own device or something like that |
| 23:26:13 | Llorean | Then do it. |
| 23:26:27 | DerPapst | florin: you can use what ever os has dd. |
| 23:26:29 | Llorean | florin: I'm not really sure, honestly. Try to catch linuxstb, maybe, he might have an idea. |
| 23:27:12 | florin | Llorean: you said something was wrong with the file... |
| 23:27:18 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 23:27:25 | florin | did you mean the original file, or my download? |
| 23:27:29 | Llorean | The original |
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| 23:27:56 | florin | aha. |
| 23:28:01 | Llorean | Now, it's possible to install Rockbox without the user of the iPodPatcher tool at all. |
| 23:28:07 | Llorean | It's just a lot less fun. |
| 23:28:25 | DerPapst | florin: you can ask on the forums if anyone with a 5.5G 30GB can give you their mbr |
| 23:28:38 | Llorean | DerPapst: Or better yet, ask them to upload it to the wiki page. |
| 23:28:45 | florin | yes, i'll do that... |
| 23:28:54 | florin | but what about that ipodpatcher-less install? |
| 23:28:54 | DerPapst | Llorean: yepp. |
| 23:28:57 | AceNik | Llorean:so what do you use for ipods now , like you need patcher for the bootloader right? |
| 23:29:02 | bluebrother | oh, webcam broken? :'-( |
| 23:29:03 | florin | i'm keen :-) |
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| 23:29:32 | Llorean | AceNik: You don't need iPodpatcher for the bootloader, it's just the easiest method to install it. |
| 23:29:37 | a1titude | yeah, I lost the webcam feed 2! |
| 23:29:55 | AceNik | Llorean:then which is the ther method ? |
| 23:30:09 | bluebrother | DerPapst, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/DevCon2007.jpg |
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| 23:30:36 | DerPapst | nice :) |
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| 23:30:56 | Llorean | florin: First you need a raw .bin of the bootloader, rather than a .ipod. I'm not sure how to do that, I know it's converted to .ipod during the compile process so I assume you can just remove that step, I'm not sure if it's reversible (as an alternative) |
| 23:31:04 | pixelma | bluebrother: wrong... |
| 23:31:09 | bluebrother | picture again :) |
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| 23:31:29 | bluebrother | pixelma, what's wrong? |
| 23:31:32 | Llorean | florin: Then using the "Linux Users" directions from here (horribly outdated, but I think they *might* still work) you might be able to figure out what to do |
| 23:31:42 | pixelma | that guy you called Zagor is petur - Zagor is missing on the pic |
| 23:31:53 | bluebrother | d'oh! |
| 23:32:00 | Llorean | AceNik: The old process had you use dd to extract the firmware partition, the ipod_fw tool to extract the firmware and merge it with the bootloader, then dd to write it back |
| 23:32:05 | DerPapst | Llorean: they don't work for 5.5G iPods. |
| 23:32:08 | bluebrother | but wasn't that Zagor's place? |
| 23:32:15 | Llorean | DerPapst: At all? |
| 23:32:23 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:32:23 | * | petur feels so last year with the blue shirt |
| 23:32:30 | DerPapst | ipod_fw creates a corrupt image |
| 23:32:33 | Llorean | Ah. |
| 23:32:42 | Llorean | florin: Ignore me. |
| 23:32:46 | DerPapst | he can try out scrable though |
| 23:32:57 | B4gder | no more "half" webcam pics now |
| 23:33:09 | bluebrother | pixelma, better now? |
| 23:33:10 | Llorean | Just DD over a bootloader, no merged firmware? Break dual boot, but you'd at least have Rockbox |
| 23:33:19 | DerPapst | but that will "delete" the original fw |
| 23:33:25 | florin | Llorean: ignore you? |
| 23:33:27 | bluebrother | sorry petur :o |
| 23:33:40 | Llorean | florin: My instructions wouldn't have worked apparently, the ipod_fw tool isn't compatible with 5.5G |
| 23:34:17 | AceNik | bye guys have fun |
| 23:34:18 | florin | so no rockbox for me yet, right? |
| 23:34:22 | Llorean | I'm thinking |
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| 23:34:43 | DerPapst | florin: you can replace the original os with rockbox |
| 23:34:54 | florin | ok with me... |
| 23:34:58 | florin | :-) |
| 23:35:11 | Domonoky | woudnt it be possible to use the "wrong" mbr and recreate the Fat32 partition ? |
| 23:35:35 | Domonoky | then ipodpatcher should accept it.. |
| 23:35:38 | DerPapst | you'll have to build the scramble tool. it's in SVN |
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| 23:35:46 | Sivart0 | waaaaaait |
| 23:35:52 | Llorean | Another idea is to just extract your current MBR, add in the "magic" that iPodPatcher looks for, and write it back. |
| 23:35:57 | DerPapst | Domonoky: might be worth a try. |
| 23:35:58 | Sivart0 | you can completely remove the apple OS? OO_O |
| 23:36:00 | * | Llorean doesn't know what that magic is. |
| 23:36:03 | Llorean | Sivart0: Yes |
| 23:36:11 | Llorean | Makes booting a bit faster, too. |
| 23:36:14 | florin | hm... |
| 23:36:17 | Sivart0 | =o |
| 23:36:22 | Domonoky | or comment the check in ipodpatcher an recompile it :-) |
| 23:36:22 | florin | ok, how? |
| 23:36:23 | * | Sivart0 drools |
| 23:36:29 | Llorean | Domonoky: That would work as well. |
| 23:36:35 | florin | where's the souce? |
| 23:36:36 | Llorean | I've petitioned to give iPodPatcher a −−force option |
| 23:36:36 | DerPapst | florin: try out the mbr from the 80GB 5.5G iPod |
| 23:36:43 | DerPapst | and fix it in fdisk then |
| 23:36:50 | Llorean | DerPapst: That'd have an oversized firmware partition |
| 23:36:53 | Llorean | 120mb instead of 80mb |
| 23:36:56 | DerPapst | i know |
| 23:36:59 | Llorean | Extra room for the hibernation image. |
| 23:37:00 | bluebrother | Sivart0, ipodpatcher -wf rockbox.ipod |
| 23:37:32 | Llorean | Sivart0: Be aware you should ipodpatcher -rf apple_os.ipod and keep a backup of that somewhere in case you ever want to restore it. |
| 23:37:59 | Sivart0 | cool |
| 23:38:00 | bluebrother | you can even run apple_os from that file afterwars iiuc |
| 23:38:03 | Llorean | bluebrother: I prefer to -wf bootloader.ipod personally. Makes the boot take slightly longer, but it means not having to -wf every Rockbox update. |
| 23:38:06 | Domonoky | the source for ipodpatcher is in SVN in rbutil/ipodpatcher, if you can compile its probaly the easyest.. |
| 23:38:07 | toffe82 | so what is the first beer you drink ? |
| 23:38:20 | bluebrother | Llorean, I did it that way too :) |
| 23:38:23 | * | DerPapst points Llorean to: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Restore_without_iTunes |
| 23:38:30 | florin | ahm... wait, i'm starting to lose you guys... |
| 23:38:37 | DerPapst | so he dosn't have to make a backup :P |
| 23:38:45 | florin | trying to understand: |
| 23:39:00 | florin | if i break my ipod's firmware, i'm able to restore it with itunes, right? |
| 23:39:03 | bluebrother | damn, I don't have a beer around |
| 23:39:11 | Domonoky | florin: yes |
| 23:39:11 | DerPapst | florin: yes |
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| 23:39:20 | DerPapst | woohoo i was faster :P |
| 23:39:43 | florin | ok. |
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| 23:40:16 | florin | now about that MBR: if i messed it up, after re-partitioning, it sould be sane again (provided that i did a sane repartitioning) right? |
| 23:40:26 | petur | beer 1: http://www.trappistwestmalle.be/en/page/tripel.aspx |
| 23:40:30 | Sivart0 | and i already know how to do all that linux crap xD |
| 23:40:43 | Sivart0 | >_> i've messed up my firmware partition many times |
| 23:40:50 | bluebrother | hmm. Is there a beer agenda? |
| 23:40:52 | florin | (too :-) |
| 23:40:53 | Sivart0 | damn ipodlinux |
| 23:40:57 | florin | ok. |
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| 23:41:11 | DerPapst | florin: try out the mbr for the 5.5G 80GB iPod and fix your mbr afterwars. |
| 23:41:16 | petur | bluebrother: yes, at the bottom of the devcon wiki page ;) |
| 23:41:24 | florin | now i do have a working ipod, with original firmware. iknow how to re-create that from scrach (done like 10 times today :-) |
| 23:41:24 | DerPapst | maybe ipodpatcher is still happy then |
| 23:41:36 | bluebrother | thanks, just noticed it. But the upcoming beer isn't announced ;-) |
| 23:41:48 | florin | now. |
| 23:41:58 | bluebrother | or is that planned for tomorrow? |
| 23:41:59 | florin | my options are (1) patch ipodpatcher and recompile |
| 23:42:05 | florin | (2) patch my "working" MBR |
| 23:42:11 | florin | with the rockbox-magic |
| 23:42:19 | DerPapst | i would choose (2) :P |
| 23:42:21 | florin | or (3) install rockbox as the only os |
| 23:42:28 | bluebrother | petur, :D |
| 23:42:41 | Llorean | or (4) come up with a solution cleverer than those we've suggested. ;) |
| 23:42:47 | florin | :-) |
| 23:43:00 | florin | i think (2) sounds like the most sane sollution. |
| 23:43:07 | Domonoky | 5) wait for someone elses MBR.. |
| 23:43:13 | Llorean | I think (1) is actually the most sane. |
| 23:43:14 | a1titude | I know I'm asking for my head to be bitten off here, but is the 80GB ipod going to be looked at at the Devcon? |
| 23:43:16 | florin | making a dd of the MBR, and then? |
| 23:43:16 | B4gder | (5) wait until it fixes itself |
| 23:43:31 | DerPapst | ^would be 6 |
| 23:43:31 | Llorean | Since it probably just involves commenting out a check or two. |
| 23:43:39 | Sivart0 | wooo! |
| 23:43:43 | florin | (7) wave a dead mouse over the 'pod? |
| 23:43:49 | Llorean | I'm not sure what (2) needs to be done. |
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| 23:44:00 | DerPapst | well. this time ignore me and do waht Llorean said ;) |
| 23:44:01 | Llorean | I have no idea what iPodPatcher is looking for that yours isn't giving it. |
| 23:44:07 | florin | does anybody has a URL to the source of ipodpatcher? |
| 23:44:16 | florin | i could figure out what it does... |
| 23:44:17 | DerPapst | it's in svn |
| 23:44:32 | Llorean | And you'd probably have to open up iPodPatcher and ask it what it's looking for, and once you're there you may as well just comment out the look rather than taking that information and hacking up an MBR with it :) |
| 23:44:45 | DerPapst | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher/?pathrev=13403 |
| 23:44:46 | Zagor | tower time! |
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| 23:45:57 | florin | (apt-get install svn....) |
| 23:46:06 | bluebrother | cool. |
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| 23:46:10 | Sivart0 | what's the smallest my firmware partition can be? |
| 23:46:16 | * | bluebrother does the tower-dance |
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| 23:46:33 | Llorean | Sivart0: How big is the bootloader.ipod for your target |
| 23:46:35 | * | dan_a giggles at the DAP tower |
| 23:46:55 | bluebrother | dan_a, seen the dap tower of last year? |
| 23:47:00 | florin | ah, right. what about that ipodpatcher generating broken patches for 5.5g? |
| 23:47:20 | bluebrother | but as the family grew, let's wait for this years tower ... |
| 23:47:21 | Sivart0 | hmmm... pretty small |
| 23:47:28 | Llorean | florin: ipod_fw is the program that's broken for 5.5G, not iPodPatcher |
| 23:47:43 | dan_a | bluebrother: No, I wasn't around at that time |
| 23:47:51 | DerPapst | Sivat0: 1MB is enough then :P |
| 23:47:54 | florin | at what point does that one kick in? |
| 23:47:55 | bluebrother | me neither, but there is a picture online |
| 23:47:58 | Sivart0 | :P |
| 23:48:11 | Sivart0 | smallest i can make it is 8mb >_< |
| 23:48:13 | florin | (sorry for asking dumb questions... i'm new here :-) |
| 23:48:20 | Llorean | florin: ipod_fw isn't used at all, or shouldn't be. |
| 23:48:29 | DerPapst | right |
| 23:48:29 | florin | ah ok. |
| 23:48:46 | bluebrother | dan_a, http://daniel.haxx.se/devcon2006/ |
| 23:48:55 | Sivart0 | anybody know how to make only a 1mb partition? |
| 23:49:05 | Sivart0 | with fdisk on linux |
| 23:49:20 | bluebrother | choose "+1m" as end sector |
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| 23:49:30 | DerPapst | switch to sectors. not clusters :P but i think 8MB is small enough |
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| 23:49:42 | Sivart0 | 8mb is too big! |
| 23:49:53 | florin | SVN problem |
| 23:49:55 | florin | svn co http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher/ |
| 23:49:55 | florin | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/ipodpatcher' |
| 23:50:14 | bluebrother | florin, replace http:// with svn:// |
| 23:50:16 | DerPapst | heh |
| 23:50:30 | DerPapst | that wouldn't work either |
| 23:50:31 | Domonoky | and no viewvc .. |
| 23:50:31 | bluebrother | ah, and that viewvc.cgi in there won't work |
| 23:50:44 | Sivart0 | how do i switch to sectors? |
| 23:50:47 | bluebrother | svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk |
| 23:50:49 | Domonoky | the URL is: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk |
| 23:51:04 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 23:51:15 | DerPapst | and the add /rbutil/ipodpatcher |
| 23:51:24 | florin | thankx |
| 23:51:26 | DerPapst | if you only want to co ipodpatcher |
| 23:51:27 | florin | :-) |
| 23:51:41 | florin | it even compiles :-) |
| 23:52:06 | * | bluebrother wonders if we get a close-up of the tower |
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| 23:52:23 | dan_a | I hope austriancoder manages to get his USB driver written - I don't like having to go into the original firmware to upgrade! |
| 23:52:49 | florin | hm. |
| 23:52:53 | florin | something's fishy. |
| 23:52:55 | Llorean | I would love it if I never had to enter the OF on my Sansa. |
| 23:53:05 | Llorean | That stupid database updating it does. |
| 23:53:05 | florin | it checks agains 55aa on the last 32 bit |
| 23:53:19 | florin | but my mbr _does_ have 55aa right back there! |
| 23:53:19 | DerPapst | wee.. nice "Tower of Daps" |
| 23:53:28 | bluebrother | that's usual for a partition table |
| 23:53:38 | bluebrother | but ipodpatcher does a couple of other checks |
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| 23:54:43 | bluebrother | it also checks the boot sector of the data partition afaics |
| 23:54:55 | bluebrother | ipodpatcher.c:175 |
| 23:55:12 | Sivart0 | >_< |
| 23:55:31 | bluebrother | s/of thedata partiton// |
| 23:55:58 | florin | i'm still trying to figure out what goes wrong, brb. |
| 23:56:43 | n1s | is May 18 going to be the first commit-less day of the year? |
| 23:56:51 | Sivart0 | grrrr |
| 23:56:55 | Sivart0 | i dont wanna rebooooot :( |
| 23:57:07 | bluebrother | no, there were commitless days before |
| 23:57:16 | bluebrother | should I do one? |
| 23:57:32 | DerPapst | yes :) |
| 23:57:41 | dan_a | It'd be wrong if development stopped because of devcon! |
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