| 00:00:20 | Llorean | I'm not sure it really is clutter. |
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| 00:00:33 | Llorean | I mean, does it really interfere with searches or anything? |
| 00:01:19 | element_g | Llorean: I agree, it is just one feature request I wouldn't consider that clutter |
| 00:01:32 | Llorean | element_g: It's one of many |
| 00:01:43 | Zagor | I have to go now. The email notifications aren't fixed yet (new code means I can't just apply my patches), and there's an assortment of quirks on the webpage. but as far as I've seen the basics work anyway. |
| 00:02:01 | Llorean | What would be nice is a view that showed everything *but* feature requests |
| 00:02:10 | Llorean | 95% of feature requests could be cleared away as "clutter" otherwise. |
| 00:03:16 | intgr | Flyspray doesn't let you create custom queries? |
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| 00:05:02 | bluebrother | the new version can. |
| 00:05:30 | bluebrother | are the lights down at devcon? Only a black image ... |
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| 00:06:25 | element_g | Llorean: i see where you're going, could a time limit be set on Feature requests after which they're moved into an archive? |
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| 00:06:48 | Llorean | Dunno |
| 00:07:09 | Llorean | The problem is, I don't like getting rid of feature requests just because nobody's interested, but I also don't like them cluttering the list. |
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| 00:07:52 | bluebrother | basically I agree. |
| 00:08:19 | bluebrother | but closing tasks doesn't remove them −− you can still search for them and view them. And reopen if needed |
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| 00:08:42 | bluebrother | so, if someone starts working on such a task he could simply request the task to get reopened. |
| 00:10:03 | element_g | bluebrother: I see, so what you're talking about will remedy the clutter? |
| 00:10:35 | bluebrother | you won't get shown like 1000 open tasks anymore, which I personally consider less clutter |
| 00:11:23 | Llorean | Close it with "Later" then, I guess |
| 00:12:46 | bluebrother | we could close it as later, or reject it and add "if someone wants to work on this request the task to get reopened" or something similar |
| 00:13:19 | Llorean | Well I tend to think of "Rejected" as meaning "We do not want this, so please don't work on it." |
| 00:13:23 | bluebrother | reject if it's something only a few people will ever want. |
| 00:13:36 | bluebrother | hmm. Good point |
| 00:13:39 | Llorean | Well, I'm off to dinner, though. |
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| 00:14:23 | element_g | Devcon people: who's that wearing socks and sandals? |
| 00:15:00 | DerPapst | LinusN |
| 00:15:56 | element_g | you were all doing so well with the stylish Rockbox shirts |
| 00:16:46 | a1titude | Socks and sandles? 0.o |
| 00:16:49 | a1titude | thats nasty! |
| 00:17:07 | element_g | It depends, who know what linus's feet look like? |
| 00:17:08 | a1titude | *sandals |
| 00:17:25 | a1titude | hah |
| 00:17:31 | LinusN | ESD-sandals |
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| 00:17:59 | element_g | ESD? |
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| 00:18:10 | LinusN | electro-static discharge |
| 00:18:22 | a1titude | yeah just looked it up! haha |
| 00:18:31 | a1titude | thats wierd, paranoia? |
| 00:18:33 | Bagder | hi guys |
| 00:18:39 | LinusN | hi |
| 00:18:44 | safetydan | Hrmm, Bagder's been on a bit of a tear through flyspray and svn... |
| 00:19:02 | Bagder | indeed! |
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| 00:19:11 | Soul_Slayer | Hey, is there a recommended file type and bit rate to use for saving battery? |
| 00:19:24 | bluebrother | element_g, check the who's who picture ;-) |
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| 00:19:39 | safetydan | oh, right, devcon is on :) |
| 00:19:43 | * | safetydan has been out of the loop |
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| 00:21:32 | safetydan | Any chance that someone will look at 6652 then? |
| 00:21:38 | element_g | Soul Slayer: vorbis? the lower bitrate variety |
| 00:21:49 | LinusN | those sandals are standard footwear at work, socks or not |
| 00:21:55 | element_g | bluebrother: that's a pretty funny pic |
| 00:22:13 | a1titude | define work! :) |
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| 00:22:49 | * | bluebrother hasn't seen such esd footwear before |
| 00:22:55 | Bagder | safetydan: ah yes, I forgot about that one. I'll try to get a stab at that tomorrow |
| 00:23:00 | element_g | LinusN: I see |
| 00:23:07 | Soul_Slayer | Hmm, vorbis puts on less strain than MP3? |
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| 00:23:20 | a1titude | at lower bitrates |
| 00:23:25 | bluebrother | element_g, I was quite a bit surprised that picture got like officially linked :) |
| 00:23:30 | a1titude | at the same bitrate is uses more power |
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| 00:23:42 | bluebrother | on coldfire, mp3 needs less cpu power than ogg |
| 00:23:57 | a1titude | thats normal |
| 00:24:04 | bluebrother | and iirc on pp it's the other way round (as the vorbis codec performs better on arm) |
| 00:24:05 | a1titude | at the same bitrate is uses more power |
| 00:24:35 | a1titude | but vorbis sounds better at lower bitrates so you can use a lower bitrate and that saves the power |
| 00:24:36 | Soul_Slayer | Well, I have a H10, which is PP |
| 00:25:15 | safetydan | Bagder, cheers. I've had a couple of goes at it, but got nowhere since I don't know perl. |
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| 00:25:33 | Soul_Slayer | So should I transcode my music into a low bitrate OGG format in order to save battery? |
| 00:25:37 | element_g | altitude: how much better? |
| 00:25:51 | a1titude | transcoding is not recommended |
| 00:26:01 | a1titude | and it depends there is no exact rule |
| 00:26:02 | Thundercloud_ | Ogg vorbis is far worse for battery life than mp3 I thought due to ogg decoders being pretty unoptimised. |
| 00:26:08 | Bagder | nice sub 5 minute build times now |
| 00:26:18 | Soul_Slayer | Hmm |
| 00:26:23 | bluebrother | Soul_Slayer, you could try it −− encode various formats and bitrates and have a look at the boost ratio |
| 00:26:27 | a1titude | www.hydrogenaudio.org |
| 00:26:47 | bluebrother | I personally find ogg -q5 comparable to 192kbit mp3 |
| 00:26:57 | element_g | I prefer vorbis, it's free, and better for seamless |
| 00:26:58 | a1titude | http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Transcoding |
| 00:27:17 | element_g | bluebrother: 192kbit is pretty much my preference for mp3 |
| 00:27:25 | Soul_Slayer | The boost ratio will indicate it's battery consumption? |
| 00:27:34 | bluebrother | I prefer vorbis for a couple of reasons. No hassle with id3v1 vs. id3v2 for example |
| 00:27:34 | a1titude | you should try something like 80kbps vorbis |
| 00:27:51 | ivan` | vorbis tags are evil |
| 00:28:09 | bluebrother | vorbis has comments, no tags :p |
| 00:28:14 | Soul_Slayer | I'll give it a shot, thanks a1 |
| 00:28:36 | bluebrother | and they work wayyy better than id3 for me. Including much better support by open source tools |
| 00:28:37 | Soul_Slayer | Is the database designed for MP3 only then? |
| 00:28:49 | bluebrother | no. The database works with all supported audio formats |
| 00:28:54 | Soul_Slayer | Oh, okay |
| 00:29:03 | a1titude | http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15049 <- u should look at that page |
| 00:29:21 | bluebrother | just make sure not to add id3 tags to vorbis files −− that's broken and won't work (but some broken software does this) |
| 00:29:23 | Soul_Slayer | Cheers =] |
| 00:30:28 | element_g | Soul Slayer: I'm sure Database works with vorbis, it's built using all kinds of metadata |
| 00:30:46 | Soul_Slayer | Ok |
| 00:31:35 | bluebrother | I'm still using Xiph.org. What are the advantages of aotuv? |
| 00:31:42 | * | n1s uses -q4 vorbis encoded by the latest aotuv encoder and is very happy with that |
| 00:31:46 | a1titude | better sounding for the bitrate |
| 00:32:13 | bluebrother | any values that are comparable? Like -q5 xiph.org compares to -q4 aotuv? |
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| 00:32:28 | a1titude | its all relative |
| 00:32:32 | a1titude | to the listner |
| 00:32:37 | n1s | bluebrother: I may sound like a HA forum member but "only your ears can decide" :-) |
| 00:32:39 | a1titude | *listener |
| 00:32:59 | element_g | I agree |
| 00:33:07 | a1titude | I agree too |
| 00:33:09 | n1s | FWIW -q4 with aotuv is completely transparent to me... |
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| 00:33:13 | a1titude | Although I'm a member |
| 00:33:20 | Luc_Aylesbury | hia :) |
| 00:33:24 | a1titude | -q1 is transparent to me |
| 00:33:51 | Luc_Aylesbury | Is Rockbox compatible with "60GB Apple Ipod Photo 4th Gen" ? |
| 00:33:56 | a1titude | yeah |
| 00:34:05 | a1titude | I think |
| 00:34:11 | Bagder | it is |
| 00:34:19 | element_g | 128kbit mp3's used to be good enough, but I started listening to 192kbit and VBR encodes and realized that on some songs there would be some reverb missing etc. |
| 00:34:25 | n1s | also with tomal's latest optimizations to the vorbis codec in rockbox the boost is single digit percentages now on my h300 (with q4) |
| 00:34:34 | bluebrother | n1s, right ... guess I'll just stick. |
| 00:34:39 | Luc_Aylesbury | cool, but is there any advantage to using a " |
| 00:34:39 | Luc_Aylesbury | Apple iPod Video 60GB" ? |
| 00:34:47 | badsheepy | newer lame is much better too |
| 00:34:58 | bluebrother | but does anyone know why aotuv is a separate thing? |
| 00:34:59 | ivan` | used to be good enough, when you had bad gear |
| 00:35:00 | Bagder | Luc_Aylesbury: advantage in comparison to what? |
| 00:35:07 | * | n1s also has a small iram optimization that he hopes to commit soon :-) |
| 00:35:08 | a1titude | 3.97 is the hydrogen audio recomended lame encoder currently |
| 00:35:14 | Luc_Aylesbury | Bagder, if rockbox was better on the Video ? |
| 00:35:23 | element_g | if i were to use mp3 I would prefer LAME too |
| 00:35:30 | Luc_Aylesbury | or if it had the same features between the two devices ? |
| 00:35:31 | Thundercloud__ | LAME = yes |
| 00:35:36 | a1titude | bluebrother: it a different developer developing the enconder |
| 00:35:39 | badsheepy | aotuv with sse optimisations is like 8x faster at encoding for me |
| 00:35:41 | Bagder | Luc_Aylesbury: I think Rockbox performs worse on the video, due to the video's larger screen |
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| 00:36:00 | Luc_Aylesbury | oh |
| 00:36:12 | a1titude | these sse sse2 and sse3 MT optermised versions too |
| 00:36:16 | bluebrother | ah, so the official developers don't seem to be interested in aotuv changes? |
| 00:36:20 | Bagder | and the way the lcd driver/setup works |
| 00:36:26 | Luc_Aylesbury | also, and sorry this will be my last question:) is there anywhere I can see the rockbox interface in action? |
| 00:36:37 | Luc_Aylesbury | running on a device (e.g. ipod) ? |
| 00:36:38 | a1titude | http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/ |
| 00:36:38 | badsheepy | they incorporated aotuv 0.2 changes or something |
| 00:36:46 | badsheepy | but not the newer ones just yet i think |
| 00:36:55 | Bagder | Luc_Aylesbury: there's a simulator you can build/run on your host computer |
| 00:37:17 | Luc_Aylesbury | bagawk, that sounds good :) |
| 00:37:17 | Cassandra | rasher.dk/rockbox/">http://www.rasher.dk/rockbox/ has simulators. |
| 00:37:35 | Luc_Aylesbury | brilliant :) I will give them a look... |
| 00:37:46 | n1s | bluebrother: post by one of the vorbis developers concerning among other things aotuv: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=774be553214616a2bd0dff44db7119b0&showtopic=53148&view=findpost&p=491641 |
| 00:39:01 | element_g | Luc_Aylesbury: If I were to recommend an iPod I'd say either nano or video, mainly becuase they have the best WPS themes, It's to my understanding that Rockbox is slower on all iPods (I'm assuming its fastest on things like the nano, and mini, and slowest on the video) |
| 00:39:50 | a1titude | I would love it on the 80GB but.... yeah. |
| 00:40:25 | Luc_Aylesbury | element_g, thank you for taking the time to write that :) If I might ask... When you say "slow", do you mean that the actual interface is slow? I mean, they are all fast enough to play OGG and FLAC format ? |
| 00:41:34 | n1s | Do dependency graphs work for anyone in flyspray? |
| 00:43:05 | bluebrother | ok. Thanks for clearing this ogg stuff up for me :) |
| 00:43:27 | element_g | Luc_Aylesbury : Ogg plays in realtime or better, same for FLAC see |
| 00:43:27 | element_g | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 00:43:49 | Luc_Aylesbury | element_g, thank you Sir, I will take a look |
| 00:44:22 | bluebrother | n1s, do you have an id of a task with dependencies around? |
| 00:44:39 | n1s | 6574 |
| 00:45:58 | Luc_Aylesbury | It seems that iPod Photo suffers from crashes due to frequency scaling, so I would probably be better going for a Video :) |
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| 00:46:10 | bluebrother | no, graph is broken |
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| 00:46:17 | Luc_Aylesbury | I'm just trying to figure out which is the best to buy :P |
| 00:46:21 | bluebrother | but the "related tasks" tab also shows nothing |
| 00:46:28 | bluebrother | well, no tasks to be exact. |
| 00:46:46 | n1s | bluebrother: do you know if it worked for you before (the graph) it never worked for me |
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| 00:47:06 | bluebrother | the graph never worked. |
| 00:47:27 | bluebrother | there also seems to be a problem with your name. Looks like an utf8 issue ;-) |
| 00:47:35 | zivan56 | the sansa audio control really needs to be changed to control the headphone volume, as the radio is significantly louder even with the smallest gain change, ie -20 is extremely loud |
| 00:47:50 | zivan56 | when controlling line1_in volume |
| 00:47:58 | n1s | ah, ok, and I think FS makes a distinction between dependencies and related tasks... yeah my name is copyrighted :-) |
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| 00:49:52 | element_g | Luc_Aylesbury : if you're looking for someone to recommend a player, I'd go for a Gigabeat, they're discontinued but still easily obtainable through eBay (where I got mine) |
| 00:51:42 | bluebrother | FS still has some glitches, but I really like the new stuff :) |
| 00:51:57 | zivan56 | hmm, my bad, looks like headphone volume doesn't control the "main" volume, as line1_in is still at the same volume... |
| 00:53:35 | ivan` | is a headphone amp a good idea for a 60 ohm headphone on an X5? |
| 00:54:21 | Luc_Aylesbury | element_g, thank you. I understand the GigaBeat will go up to 40Gb ? |
| 00:54:50 | scorche | headphone amps are only a good idea if you want either louder sound, or cleaner sound if you can bypass the internal amp |
| 00:54:50 | JdGordon | Bagder: aronud? |
| 00:55:06 | ivan` | and portable audio players amp already |
| 00:55:22 | a1titude | That webcams getting to annoy me, I wanna know whats going on on the other side of the moniters! ::-P |
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| 00:57:29 | ivan` | i just hear that meier crossfeed is better than rockbox's algorithm |
| 00:57:56 | markun | Llorean: up to 60 |
| 00:58:05 | scorche | and some say the opposite...it really doesnt matter... |
| 00:58:07 | markun | Luc_Aylesbury: that was for you |
| 00:58:56 | Luc_Aylesbury | markun, thanks :P |
| 00:59:25 | markun | Luc_Aylesbury: linuxstb upgraded his gigabeat F20 with a 80GB hdd |
| 00:59:39 | markun | but he needed to replace the case |
| 00:59:42 | Luc_Aylesbury | markun, oooo, even better :) |
| 00:59:51 | markun | and it's not cheap.. |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:44 | Soul_Slayer | F10 and F20 have smaller cases than the F40 and F60s |
| 01:02:06 | Llorean | markun: 60? |
| 01:02:10 | * | Llorean is lost. |
| 01:02:25 | Llorean | Oh, nevermind |
| 01:02:28 | Llorean | I'm found again |
| 01:02:40 | markun | :) |
| 01:02:50 | markun | Llorean: it was the auto complete.. |
| 01:02:53 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 01:03:19 | markun | Soul_Slayer: yes, that's why he used a F40 case |
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| 01:05:04 | zivan56 | this is quite strange, the sansa headphone volume control doesn't affect the volume of line1 in going to the headphones |
| 01:07:29 | n1s | zivan56: maybe some sort of mixer setting in the dac? |
| 01:08:10 | tchan | I haven't seen it mentioned in here but just in case for fellow Rockbox users −− Frys.com is having a sale on 8gb e280 Sansa mp3 players for $150. Sale is on now through 20070522. http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5007675 |
| 01:08:30 | zivan56 | n1s: perhaps, the only thing I can do for now is change the gain on line1 to change the volume |
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| 01:10:50 | n1s | aah, the data sheet with a sort of NDA... |
| 01:10:59 | zivan56 | looks like the radio driver needs to call the sound driver, tell it to enable line1 in, and only change the gain on line1 instead of the current DAC volume control |
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| 01:14:55 | zivan56 | well I'll leave that for somone else, another issue is the radio screen never seems to unmute the radio |
| 01:15:56 | moos | I've got problem when I download svn sources: "svn:failed to add file 'rockbox/manual/rockbox_interface/images/player-front.svg': object of the same name already exists" |
| 01:16:42 | element_g | Luc_Aylesbury: the Gigabeat F40 is the easiest to find |
| 01:17:20 | element_g | btw, I got mine for $150 CAD ( I think 120$ or something US) |
| 01:18:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:18:54 | moos | anyone have an idea about this player-front.svg file? |
| 01:19:25 | moos | amiconn, pixelma maybe? |
| 01:19:42 | moos | for highlight your bar :) |
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| 01:21:51 | pixelma | moos: there were a few manual commits but I don't have any problems cheking out the sources myself - maybe a local problem for you? Maybe someone else could try? |
| 01:22:19 | jhMikeS | zivan56: we're using the DAC volume to control volume because the range is larger but that approach won't work with an analog passthrough |
| 01:23:02 | moos | pixelma: yeah I thought at this too, but I completly remove my rockbox folder, and then redownload, but svn failed at thid file |
| 01:23:09 | moos | this |
| 01:23:15 | amiconn | moos: Simplest solution: delete the file in question locally, and svn up again |
| 01:23:38 | zivan56 | jhMikeS: any suggestions on how to go about getting radio volume control? or is controlling line1 in gain the only option |
| 01:23:52 | moos | pixelma, amiconn: I have no more rockbox dir at all now |
| 01:26:15 | pixelma | wonder why it should fail there because noone's done anything with these .svgs |
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| 01:27:38 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Is -39 really the lowest the volume goes? |
| 01:27:51 | jhMikeS | zivan56: two ways, digital passthrough or use the headphone vol instead |
| 01:28:39 | moos | pixelma: yeah I searched on svn logs and found nothing myself neither, probably local problem then... |
| 01:28:39 | jhMikeS | Llorean: I believe so though the mixer volume and headphone volume could probably be combined to a larger range |
| 01:29:08 | zivan56 | jhMikeS: I tried the headphone volume right after setting dac volume, and although it increased/decreased the volume when playing an mp3, the volume is not changed at all when the radio is playing |
| 01:29:10 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Ah. For me, -39 is still quite loud, so I was wondering. :) |
| 01:29:39 | zivan56 | interestingly enough, it increases the overall volume when both dac and headphone are set |
| 01:29:50 | jhMikeS | zivan56: ummm...sounds rather odd. I haven't done much playing around yet. |
| 01:30:13 | jhMikeS | could use line + mixer combo |
| 01:30:16 | jhMikeS | ?? |
| 01:30:35 | zivan56 | yes, controlling line1_in gain does the trick, but the volume different is quite apparant |
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| 01:31:36 | jhMikeS | I'd rather reserve line1_in volume for recording and not playback volume though...hmmm |
| 01:32:00 | zivan56 | but there is an issue of a static noise present when increasing it if the radio is muted/not present |
| 01:32:12 | zivan56 | yes, that is true as well |
| 01:32:44 | jhMikeS | Radio muting should be automatically coordinated withing the standard calls really |
| 01:34:06 | zivan56 | that's another issue, radio.c seems to have a bug where it never calls unmute..still trying to find where it is |
| 01:34:56 | jhMikeS | it unmutes on other DAPs for sure |
| 01:35:15 | zivan56 | yes, its probably an ifdef somewhere |
| 01:35:30 | zivan56 | do all radio targets have recording support? |
| 01:35:42 | scorche | hrm...so what is petur doing? |
| 01:36:11 | petur | tracing the h300 pcb, looking for clues on the usbotg |
| 01:36:20 | scorche | ah...fun |
| 01:36:32 | petur | found some weird things... |
| 01:36:42 | scorche | such as? |
| 01:36:46 | DerPapst | scorche: petur/devcon2007/images/dscf0037.jpg">http://users.telenet.be/petur/devcon2007/images/dscf0037.jpg |
| 01:37:41 | petur | both internal and external charge-pump signals are going somewhere, you're supposed to use one or the other... |
| 01:37:50 | petur | weird iriver engineers |
| 01:39:03 | petur | I'm also drinking the last bit of tripel karmeliet |
| 01:39:11 | petur | cheers |
| 01:39:22 | * | scorche wonders how much it would be to ship |
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| 01:39:39 | jhMikeS | zivan56: I think so but SWCODEC doesn't record from the radio screen. mute/unmute calls aren't conditional on that anyway. The use of rec_set_source is probably the reason since that's a recording based function that does the power/unpower. A version for non-recordable target is in order but is should be temporary since e200 indeed has recording. |
| 01:40:39 | zivan56 | ah, I see |
| 01:40:54 | petur | I'm annoying the others with the beeping of the multimeter (mostly Linus, who's sleeping about 5 meters from me) |
| 01:41:37 | scorche | the poor thing |
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| 01:42:34 | DerPapst | heh |
| 01:43:34 | a1titude | what time is it there? |
| 01:43:45 | DerPapst | 1:45am |
| 01:43:55 | a1titude | woah |
| 01:43:55 | DerPapst | +/- 2 min |
| 01:44:03 | a1titude | thats erarly |
| 01:44:10 | a1titude | *early |
| 01:44:11 | DerPapst | same for me :P |
| 01:44:25 | a1titude | haha |
| 01:47:48 | zivan56 | hmm, I just did a search for RADIO_MUTE and the only reference was to radio.c and the tuner drivers |
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| 01:50:55 | Insectoid | To all your hardware people, what seems to be the most popular single-chip solution for fm radios in rockbox targets? |
| 01:51:01 | Insectoid | s/your/you |
| 01:52:22 | * | petur thanks amiconn for solving the h300 usbotg mistery |
| 01:53:27 | zivan56 | Insectoid: TEA5767 comes up most |
| 01:54:08 | petur | errr mystery |
| 01:54:09 | * | amiconn says goodnight |
| 01:54:22 | Insectoid | zivan56: Thanks much. |
| 01:54:23 | DerPapst | night :) |
| 01:55:53 | XavierGr | petur: you are visiting misticriver too much it seems :P |
| 01:56:37 | a1titude | night |
| 01:57:52 | XavierGr | petur: ah I have that exact page from the ispi chip printed from when I tried to unsolder the overcurrent pins of the chip |
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| 01:58:35 | XavierGr | well I failed miserably and not only that but it seems that I shortcircuited the USB OTG port casing with a capacitor and now my H340 will reset when I connect something on that port |
| 01:58:55 | XavierGr | when rockbox finally managed to run USB OTG code I will reopen it and see if I can do something about it |
| 01:58:58 | petur | what capacitor? |
| 01:59:40 | petur | the black component next to it ot the back-with-white-stribe behind it |
| 01:59:52 | petur | s/ot/or |
| 01:59:55 | XavierGr | let me check the wiki bmps |
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| 02:00:16 | petur | next to it probably |
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| 02:00:51 | petur | that's a diode (and part of the mystery amiconn solved for me) |
| 02:01:49 | XavierGr | ah yes Linus corrected me last time and still I call it a capacitor |
| 02:01:52 | Javacat | Is it possible to replace the statusbar icons in the menu with custom ones as standard, or do I need to compile with this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2981 ? |
| 02:02:09 | XavierGr | electric-newbie here |
| 02:02:11 | petur | it's a series diode on the vbus connection |
| 02:02:21 | Llorean | Javacat: It'd require a patch |
| 02:02:30 | Javacat | ok Llorean, thanks |
| 02:02:34 | * | petur is 15 years out of it and lost most of it :/ |
| 02:02:41 | XavierGr | well I accidentally shortcircuited it with the big solder spot of the USB OTG casing |
| 02:02:55 | XavierGr | Last time I asked Linus these are not short circuited |
| 02:04:33 | XavierGr | petur: so any light on the USB OTG mysteries? |
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| 02:04:55 | petur | beginning to get a bit of a picture |
| 02:05:16 | petur | more beeping coming up |
| 02:05:20 | XavierGr | heh nice |
| 02:05:21 | a1titude | down to 2 people now, who will be teh last to drop? |
| 02:05:31 | XavierGr | take advantage of it :D |
| 02:06:18 | DerPapst | a1titude: me |
| 02:06:24 | DerPapst | good night at all |
| 02:06:30 | a1titude | ha |
| 02:06:44 | DerPapst | ;) |
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| 02:07:37 | markun | I think petur will be the last |
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| 02:08:29 | XavierGr | markun: yeah you seem bored :-) |
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| 02:09:41 | a1titude | lol |
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| 02:09:54 | a1titude | well, petur does seem dedicated |
| 02:10:14 | a1titude | atleast from by looking at the webcam |
| 02:10:58 | petur | hmmm I'll stick to 'not tired yet' ;) |
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| 02:12:23 | a1titude | haha |
| 02:12:38 | a1titude | Your an inspration to the entire organisation! |
| 02:12:57 | a1titude | *inspiration |
| 02:13:35 | petur | running out of beer though |
| 02:13:39 | a1titude | ha |
| 02:14:00 | a1titude | woulden't that make u more tired? lol |
| 02:14:01 | petur | whoops, emptied the glass :/ |
| 02:14:13 | petur | or maybe :) |
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| 02:14:21 | a1titude | without even notiecing, I bet |
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| 02:40:40 | moos | nighty |
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| 02:48:23 | a1titude | oh, thats right, I'm still here, I just remembered! :p |
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| 02:52:49 | a1titude | cya |
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| 03:07:19 | Sivart0 | helllllllllllllo peoples :D |
| 03:08:46 | petur | boo |
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| 03:09:42 | Sivart0 | eek! |
| 03:10:05 | Sivart0 | poor petur is all alone =( |
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| 03:10:32 | petur | drinking a coke - shame on me |
| 03:11:36 | Sivart0 | yummy |
| 03:11:45 | Sivart0 | now gimme a dollar |
| 03:13:21 | petur | webcam going down and so are we |
| 03:13:35 | petur | see y'all tomorrow :) |
| 03:14:07 | Sivart0 | night |
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| 04:03:44 | JdGordon | whats up with flyspray? |
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| 04:19:39 | element_g | they're making some cosmetic/organizational changes, its in today's IRC log |
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| 04:20:08 | ivan | ... |
| 04:24:39 | ivan` | ivan: what do you run rockbox on? |
| 04:26:44 | element_g | jdgordon:they're making some cosmetic/organizational/feature upgrades to flyspray, it's in todays IRC log |
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| 04:48:08 | maxkelley | hi all, is it possible to get write access to the RockBox wiki? I have some information I'd like to add the the page SansaC200Port, and am interested in developing a port for this DAP. |
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| 04:54:18 | bunz | hey? anyone there? |
| 04:58:11 | JdGordon | maxkelley: whats your wiki name? |
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| 05:03:42 | bunz | anyone there can help me with an ipod nano problem? |
| 05:03:56 | JdGordon | nopt unless you tell us the problem... |
| 05:04:33 | bunz | awhile ago i tried installing ipodlinux on my ipod, i did something funky with aesdisk and then it started screwing up |
| 05:04:38 | bunz | like, if i dont turn it on for awhile |
| 05:04:41 | bunz | it refuses to boot |
| 05:04:49 | bunz | and i have to reset repeatedly |
| 05:05:00 | bunz | and now when i install rockbox and turn it off |
| 05:05:02 | bunz | it freezes |
| 05:05:17 | krazykit | bunz, have you tried using apple's restore utility to restore it to factory defaults? |
| 05:05:32 | krazykit | then reinstalling rockbox |
| 05:05:40 | element_g | yea, that's what I'd recommend |
| 05:05:47 | bunz | ive redid all the partitions twice |
| 05:05:49 | bunz | like |
| 05:05:57 | bunz | delete all, reformat to fat32, restoring with itunes |
| 05:06:02 | bunz | it still has the problem |
| 05:06:23 | krazykit | ipodlinux does something to the bootloader, right? |
| 05:06:46 | bunz | yeah i think so |
| 05:06:49 | krazykit | i'm not familiar with it, but doesn't it tell you to back up the original bootloader/firmware/whatever? |
| 05:06:56 | bunz | but i thought redoing the partitions would delete everything |
| 05:07:09 | element_g | yes the iPL loader does work differently, but you can use the rockbox bootloader to load ipodlinux |
| 05:07:24 | bunz | like, i erased all the partitions and tried reformatting |
| 05:07:29 | bunz | so i dont know =\ |
| 05:07:44 | krazykit | well, if you wrote to the flash, then wiping the HD does nothing |
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| 05:08:12 | bunz | really? |
| 05:08:16 | bunz | oh |
| 05:08:19 | bunz | crap |
| 05:08:19 | bunz | >__< |
| 05:08:31 | bunz | i think i backed up though |
| 05:08:40 | krazykit | bunz, http://www.ipodlinux.org/Uninstallation |
| 05:09:07 | krazykit | i think you need the ipod firmware updated, not itunes. |
| 05:09:12 | krazykit | updater. |
| 05:09:35 | bunz | so i should do the rolling back |
| 05:09:38 | bunz | then redo firmware |
| 05:09:39 | bunz | ? |
| 05:09:52 | bunz | fuddle with buildid? |
| 05:10:03 | krazykit | i was looking at the second thing |
| 05:10:06 | ivan | ivan: on my 60gb iPod photo |
| 05:10:13 | ivan` | ah |
| 05:10:14 | ivan | err ivan` |
| 05:10:26 | krazykit | er |
| 05:10:27 | ivan | and 80gb is by itself |
| 05:10:28 | krazykit | just read it, yes |
| 05:10:36 | krazykit | looks like that's what you need to do |
| 05:10:39 | bunz | okay |
| 05:11:58 | bunz | so i need to use update on titunes |
| 05:12:03 | ivan | ivan`: you? |
| 05:12:04 | element_g | bunz: a restore through itunes should fix your flash, if you install iPL or Rockbox (which put their own bootloaders in place) and then restore through itunes, you wont see their bootloaders so this would mean that restoration process restores the ROM |
| 05:12:20 | ivan` | on an X5 60GB |
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| 05:12:28 | ivan` | i'm buying a headphone+amp for it |
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| 05:12:40 | bunz | so should i install rockbox and then do a firmware update? |
| 05:12:53 | ivan | nice |
| 05:13:09 | element_g | no, there would be no point |
| 05:13:12 | Murray__ | I just installed rockbox on my gf's ipod nano and now it's not starting or responding to usb.... what do I do? :P |
| 05:13:15 | ivan | I have the UE hi.fi 5eb |
| 05:13:24 | ivan | ear buds for it |
| 05:13:29 | element_g | bunz: just restore through itunes, then install rockbox |
| 05:13:39 | bunz | k |
| 05:13:54 | bunz | except i have one problem |
| 05:13:57 | bunz | my sysinfo is empty |
| 05:13:58 | bunz | =\ |
| 05:14:15 | ivan` | sticking things into my ears makes them ring at ~60dB so i don't do IEMs :( |
| 05:14:18 | element_g | Murray__: maybe the battery is dead? try plugging into a wall charger |
| 05:14:30 | Murray__ | got no wall charger unfortunately |
| 05:14:43 | ivan | oh :/ |
| 05:14:49 | Murray__ | battery is probably dead though, but I thought it would still respond to usb? |
| 05:15:02 | ivan | what you plan on getting? |
| 05:15:10 | element_g | Murray__: it still needs to boot to use the USB power |
| 05:15:18 | Murray__ | I see... |
| 05:15:20 | Murray__ | cool |
| 05:15:31 | Murray__ | so I probably didn't kill it then? |
| 05:15:34 | ivan | brb |
| 05:16:22 | element_g | Murray__: the rockbox install process will never make your iPod unrecoverable if anything ever goes wrong an you can't fix things you can always restore through itunes, Rockbox will not brick it |
| 05:16:33 | Murray__ | Yay :D |
| 05:16:36 | Murray__ | Cheers! |
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| 05:18:14 | bunz | yo element_g what do i do if my sysinfo is empty =S |
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| 05:22:59 | bunz | brb |
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| 05:35:33 | element_g | bunz: I'm not sure what you do if it's empty, maybe there is some info on the iPL uninstall page, maybe krazykit knows more. I've never used iPL so I can't help you out with that stuff |
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| 05:36:07 | element_g | All I really know is that iPL and Rockbox can coexist as long as you use the rockbox bootloader |
| 05:36:21 | element_g | I might be wrong though |
| 05:36:40 | scorche | the ipl bootloader will work also, although there might be some issues |
| 05:36:53 | element_g | but what I do know is that the best way to load rockbox is through the rockbox bootloader |
| 05:37:20 | element_g | sorche: is what I said about the rockbox bootloader loading linux correct? |
| 05:38:00 | scorche | yes, the rockbox bootloader will load linux |
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| 05:39:53 | brandonz2 | hi all. just wondering... i'd like to get some hardware besides an ipod. any recommendations on what hardware is best supported? is there a page that contains this sort of information ? |
| 05:39:58 | element_g | scorche: so would it be best to say that for a Rockbox/iPL installation, you should use the rockbox bootloader |
| 05:40:56 | element_g | brandonz2: I don't know what you mean about which is "best supported", but I believe that rockbox runs best on the Gigabeat F and X series |
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| 05:41:46 | brandonz2 | element_g best supported means like fully utilizing the available hardware. getting good feedback from the manufacturers. implementing power saving. most features implemented. stuff like that. |
| 05:42:11 | alienbiker99 | if you could get an x you should |
| 05:49:31 | midkay | element_g? |
| 05:50:05 | scorche | element_g: if you wish us to support it, yes |
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| 05:52:55 | element_g | midkay yes? |
| 05:53:06 | midkay | element_g: you wanted me earlier? |
| 05:53:24 | element_g | Um, IIRC it was about the SOAP logo, could I have the PSD? |
| 05:54:49 | element_g | I'm in the process of doing some cleanup on the wiki, and after I'm done organizing I was gonna go through and get the themes compliant with SOAP, and brand them all |
| 05:55:26 | midkay | cool. can i ask what you needed it for in particular? |
| 05:55:55 | scorche | honestly, as much as i would like for peopel to be able to do that, they are not under a license as of yet, so technically, you cant edit them without the owners permission...this will change soon though |
| 05:56:46 | element_g | I just want to make a color edit. pink soap for stock builds, green or something for unsupported |
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| 05:57:10 | element_g | I prefer the 45 degree angle in my version though |
| 05:57:17 | scorche | well, we need to figure out how we shall implement the SOAP thingy first |
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| 06:00:09 | element_g | scorche: I thought the general agreement was to just brand all compliant themes with the appropriate logo depending on whether it is standard or unsupported |
| 06:00:47 | element_g | I believe the wiki pages ThemeGuidelines and SoapSealofApproval are clear about the rules |
| 06:01:03 | scorche | yes, but we havent hammered out specifics yet...you can do what you want to, but it will likely end up being changed again as per what we decide |
| 06:01:24 | scorche | yes...we have those, but there are also multiple ones that dont work and we have to decide what to do with licensing |
| 06:01:27 | element_g | so, this is a topic for the devs to discuss? |
| 06:02:25 | scorche | i am planning on hashing it all out at devcon-west |
| 06:03:17 | scorche | most major changes (licensing is, of course, one) are decided by devs in the end, yes |
| 06:04:19 | element_g | I see, when is Devcon-west? |
| 06:04:36 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevConWest2007 |
| 06:04:47 | element_g | I knew you would do that |
| 06:05:18 | element_g | that's right before my birthday |
| 06:05:25 | scorche | well, if you had any other questions afterwards, that would likely answer it instead of you having to ask again =) |
| 06:05:47 | element_g | I know, I was just bugging |
| 06:07:13 | element_g | you know, if all goes well with a job n stuff I might head out, I'm in Canada, and I've never been to Vegas |
| 06:07:32 | scorche | well, if you do, i need to know =) |
| 06:08:27 | element_g | ok, it's just a thought right now, and I don't know if I'd be any use, I don't know how to code |
| 06:09:09 | scorche | then you can always socialize...it is up to you in the end if it is worth it or not with transportation and shelter |
| 06:10:14 | element_g | depends on how much $$$$ I make at work, I don't think I'll be able to get enough together in time though |
| 06:11:01 | element_g | just noticed its being held at the MGM, cool |
| 06:12:10 | scorche | not at the MGM...at the MGM's condos....it is a bit different ;) |
| 06:13:10 | element_g | well, it's still vegas right? |
| 06:13:22 | scorche | it is! |
| 06:13:52 | element_g | you don't have to answer, but is it your home? |
| 06:14:49 | scorche | it is not |
| 06:15:06 | element_g | alright |
| 06:15:23 | element_g | changing the subject, what is your stance on the whole SOAP thing? |
| 06:16:35 | scorche | it is a good idea, we just have to decide specifically what we want |
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| 06:18:02 | element_g | It's too bad I have to wait a month for this, I'm getting a lot of requests to fix WPS's, and I want to make them compliant with SOAP at the same time |
| 06:18:10 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 06:18:21 | element_g | hello, jungti1234 |
| 06:18:42 | scorche | you can do that, just get ahold of the creator and ask their permission |
| 06:18:57 | scorche | to edit their WPS |
| 06:19:12 | element_g | I really need their permission to fix their WPS? |
| 06:19:24 | scorche | well, they arent underneath a license, so yes |
| 06:21:09 | element_g | But aren't I doing them a favor? Should we just say CC by SA if there is no license, the author can change it at any time since they are the owner |
| 06:21:29 | element_g | I guess this is a topic for DevCon-west right? |
| 06:21:38 | scorche | no, because we didnt say that when they posted them |
| 06:22:06 | element_g | so.... unlisenced? I have a feeling many authors are not around anymore |
| 06:22:11 | scorche | we cant just change them to whatever license just because we wish to...it isnt our work |
| 06:22:32 | scorche | anyway, i am off to do a few things |
| 06:22:51 | element_g | I understand, but something has to be decided ( I guess this will wait till DevCon) |
| 06:23:01 | element_g | k, bye scorche |
| 06:23:07 | element_g | thanks for all the info |
| 06:24:41 | Jungti1234 | markun you there? |
| 06:26:23 | Jungti1234 | hey guys |
| 06:26:27 | Jungti1234 | I think I found a bug. |
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| 06:26:53 | JdGordon | bah :( |
| 06:27:11 | krazykit | element_g, you could write a diff and release that, allowing people to apply it as they will. |
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| 06:30:25 | Jungti1234 | oops, disconnected.. |
| 06:32:19 | element_g | krazykit: that would be pointless really, if someone knows how to patch then they have enough computer knowledge to modify a wps |
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| 06:33:13 | krazykit | element_g, not true. i can modify patches, but i'm far too lazy to figure out the wps syntax, though i'm sure it's trivial to learn |
| 06:33:55 | lachlan | Jungti1234: Can you reproduce the behaviour? |
| 06:34:11 | element_g | it certainly is, took me about an hour. I guess the process for now would be to open a forum topic, and wait for someone to post the required changes |
| 06:35:30 | element_g | DevCon West is only a month away, so the WPS's that I use and fix, I can just make SOAP compliant and store them locally, unless there is a license for the theme |
| 06:35:31 | Jungti1234 | lachlan: I have screenshot |
| 06:35:53 | krazykit | and by "modify patches" i meant "apply patches with patch or do them manually if needed" |
| 06:35:56 | maxkelley | JdGordon: sorry for not providing that, and thanks |
| 06:36:35 | lachlan | Jungti1234: What is the bug exactly? |
| 06:38:09 | Jungti1234 | words don't show normally. |
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| 06:38:38 | Jungti1234 | http://jungti1234.netcci.net/rockbox/bug.png |
| 06:40:14 | Jungti1234 | and seems useless word. |
| 06:40:22 | lachlan | Ahh, this is beyond me. Post a buf report in our Bug Tracker http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 and it will be fixed if it is indeed a problem |
| 06:40:32 | lachlan | bug* |
| 06:41:02 | JdGordon | Jungti1234: is that in svn? what screen is that? |
| 06:41:28 | Jungti1234 | um, already was reported it? |
| 06:43:06 | Jungti1234 | word is cut due to single quotation marks. |
| 06:43:20 | element_g | krazykit: I know that all you need to patch a file is one program, but many users when told they have to install a program, and learn how to type patch −−binary -p0 |
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| 06:44:50 | Jungti1234 | ok, I will report. |
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| 06:47:17 | krazykit | element_g, i didn't say it was a good solution :-P |
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| 06:49:03 | element_g | krazykit: well, thanks for the suggestion at least :) |
| 06:49:43 | element_g | I suppose, I could do both |
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| 08:49:22 | scorche | good morning =) |
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| 08:50:14 | scorche | good morning =) (i said it when i saw the came activated, but didnt know you werent on yet) |
| 08:50:28 | scorche | s/came/cam |
| 08:50:40 | LinusN | morning |
| 08:51:00 | scorche | so are these different shirts, or is it the same shirt everyday? |
| 08:51:01 | petur | morning |
| 08:51:15 | LinusN | same - imagine the smell :-) |
| 08:51:57 | scorche | you ahve beer though....the antidote |
| 08:52:00 | PaulJam | hi, little question: with the new layout of the tracker, how can i make it show a list of all open tasks? when i leave the search string empty i just see a blank page. |
| 08:52:16 | LinusN | PaulJam: we're working on that |
| 08:52:24 | PaulJam | ok, thanks |
| 08:52:34 | LinusN | we have many issues with the new tracker to solve |
| 08:52:58 | JdGordon | and speaking of the tracker... one of the notes on the wiki says you decided to get more patches from Fs into svn... are we goign to forget abnout bin size and prety much accept everything now? |
| 08:53:01 | JdGordon | and new plugins? |
| 08:53:17 | * | JdGordon bbs.. i tinhk |
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| 08:55:55 | cables | Is Rockbox based on its own kernel, or does it use the Linux kernel or something like that? |
| 08:56:02 | scorche | its own |
| 08:56:04 | cables | ok |
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| 08:56:10 | LinusN | JdGordon: not really, just that we don't want some patches to continue rotting |
| 08:56:33 | scorche | LinusN: what would be an example of one such patch? |
| 08:56:35 | petur | and we still want you to mind binsize :p |
| 08:57:01 | JdGordon | Ig uess patches with pretty sim chance of acceptance are immediatly closed then instead of staying open? |
| 08:57:06 | JdGordon | i.e the video menu patch |
| 08:58:15 | PaulJam | JdGordon: btw. what is your opinion about FS #7074 ? |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:14 | JdGordon | the number rings a bell... |
| 09:01:04 | JdGordon | ah yes... |
| 09:01:13 | JdGordon | I like it.. but not sure if I like how he did it:p |
| 09:01:36 | LinusN | JdGordon: as with most patches... :-) |
| 09:01:51 | JdGordon | well.. yeah |
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| 09:03:48 | JdGordon | well.. he made it a bit complicated imo... a seperate file for white and black list folders would have been nicer |
| 09:04:08 | JdGordon | hey amiconn, logs says you fouind a bug in the menus? or was it the misc.h commit? |
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| 09:04:24 | PaulJam | i like the approach to have both in the same file. |
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| 09:05:38 | JdGordon | ok, well, I wont really use the fil anyway, so I guess im happy with it goin in as is... |
| 09:07:06 | JdGordon | also... can someone look at 7134 from a ondio point of view please? the part about changing the mmc stuff to hotswap and hopfully not breakin the ondio at all.... |
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| 09:07:56 | pixelma | is that something else than I tested? |
| 09:08:17 | pixelma | (have to admit that I didn't takee |
| 09:08:23 | pixelma | a look yet |
| 09:08:44 | JdGordon | its been updated... |
| 09:09:06 | JdGordon | it _should_ work.. i'm more interested in how the code looks |
| 09:09:14 | JdGordon | I tried goi the target-tree route for it |
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| 09:16:36 | amiconn | JdGordon: The new menu system, when used in plugins, has a bug. Pressing Left should leave the menu, but it does trigger the action instead |
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| 09:21:15 | amiconn | JdGordon: Maybe it's just because I'm not using it correctly... |
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| 09:33:22 | midkay | any devcon talk on 80GB 5.5Gs? |
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| 09:34:06 | petur | midkay: they're busy with it this morning |
| 09:34:48 | midkay | petur: sweet.. maybe just in time. my 5G 60GB seems to have decided to only output audio through one channel and it's not the headphone jack.. :\ |
| 09:34:56 | midkay | only replacement option is probably an 80GB 5.5G.. |
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| 09:44:49 | JdGordon | amiconn: hmm... ok |
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| 09:46:26 | JdGordon | re the 80gb ipods changes.. If the sector size for other targets are changed for whatever reason, the e200b bootloader needs special attention or we could do something nasty with the db rebuild reset byte thing |
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| 09:51:47 | JdGordon | amiconn: hmm... quick check of the code looks like the keymaps are OK, so maybe you've done something wrong? can you paste up the patch somewherE/ |
| 09:52:29 | amiconn | If reading the code is enough: it happens in the wavrecord plugin I committed yesterday |
| 09:54:58 | JdGordon | oh, new api... I thought you were taling about the old api... |
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| 09:56:46 | * | JdGordon shold read full sentences |
| 09:57:34 | JdGordon | Ah, I see what you doing... the selected_item param is always set on exit, even if the item was cancelled |
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| 09:58:21 | JdGordon | you shouold just do swicth (rb->do_menu(&menu, &selected)) |
| 09:58:23 | B4gder | mooo |
| 09:58:26 | * | petur is happy the devcon feed is images only, not sound... the bad jokes are unbearable |
| 09:58:31 | JdGordon | buuurp |
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| 10:00:16 | JdGordon | amiconn: the point of the 2nd param is to set te selected item next time you enter, not really to find the one which the user went into |
| 10:00:26 | amiconn | Ah ok |
| 10:00:33 | JdGordon | setting it to NULL is perfectly acceptable |
| 10:00:53 | JdGordon | 4 weeks till exams are over... then the whole thing wil get commented properly... |
| 10:01:24 | amiconn | But then you're always at the first item when the menu is shown again, e.g. when returning from a setting? |
| 10:02:15 | JdGordon | no, as long as it stays in the do_menu() function it will remember tis position... but there you keep returning from it, so you should use that param |
| 10:02:53 | amiconn | I just took one of your examples... |
| 10:03:03 | amiconn | (and not properly as it seems) |
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| 10:05:25 | JdGordon | is one of the examples wrong? |
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| 10:05:50 | * | JdGordon doing a quick comment fixup in menu.h |
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| 10:13:20 | JdGordon | amiconn: Ok, looks like my examples were a bit wrong, ill fix them now |
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| 10:21:50 | bluebrother | god morgon, devcon! |
| 10:22:10 | B4gder | gooood morgon! |
| 10:22:11 | JdGordon | B4gder: do you tihnk it wold be posible to setup somewhere that lang updaters could upload and commit changes without having to put a patch on fs? |
| 10:22:31 | B4gder | yes, we could give them commit access ;-) |
| 10:22:53 | JdGordon | could do that too |
| 10:22:59 | Redbreva | Cassandra: Morning... Any reason why the RockAmp themes have been removed, but Rock_AMPED is still there? (it admits to being a colour variant of RockAmp) |
| 10:23:40 | B4gder | I think handing out commit acess for lang files would be fair |
| 10:23:52 | B4gder | we could just ask the guys to commit lang files only |
| 10:24:26 | JdGordon | something like a simple web interface for them would be les admin work wouldnt it? |
| 10:24:47 | B4gder | it would take a lot more work to setup |
| 10:24:49 | Cassandra | Human error, I suspect. |
| 10:24:52 | Cassandra | Mine, that is. |
| 10:25:11 | Redbreva | OK ;-) Just wandered |
| 10:26:44 | JdGordon | amiconn: all fixed |
| 10:26:49 | Cassandra | It's sometimes hard to judge. Themes inspired by a design are OK. Themes that copy the design outright, not. |
| 10:27:11 | Cassandra | Even an inspired theme can be a problem, if it uses someone's logo. |
| 10:27:48 | Redbreva | I know what you mean, the line between a iPod inspired and iPod ripoff especially, is very fine |
| 10:28:25 | Redbreva | And all the BlackGlass variants which look a LOT like WMP |
| 10:28:42 | Cassandra | Exactly. |
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| 10:29:33 | * | B4gder prepares the Agenda for upcoming talking |
| 10:29:36 | Redbreva | Changing topic, will the new flyspay display correctly in Firefox at anytime - it's fine in IE .. !! |
| 10:29:45 | Cassandra | A lot of the themes with photos, it's impossible to tell whether or not the photo has copyright issues. |
| 10:29:48 | Redbreva | or even flyspray |
| 10:29:48 | B4gder | Redbreva: ? |
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| 10:29:54 | B4gder | it shows fine in firefox too |
| 10:30:00 | Redbreva | Not here!! |
| 10:30:05 | B4gder | then reload |
| 10:30:16 | B4gder | you probably use a cached old css |
| 10:30:32 | Redbreva | Ooops - Correct, sorry!! |
| 10:30:36 | B4gder | :-) |
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| 10:33:40 | JdGordon | I accidently deleted the "tasks I watch" search is there any way to get it back? |
| 10:35:03 | petur | advanced? |
| 10:36:13 | * | JdGordon thinks the roadmap button shhuold be removed... 3 tasks to close before 3.0? |
| 10:37:21 | Cassandra | Add more tasks? |
| 10:39:14 | bluebrother | add more tasks! |
| 10:39:21 | * | bluebrother likes the roadmap button |
| 10:39:32 | * | B4gder does too |
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| 10:46:41 | LinusN | JdGordon: there? |
| 10:47:05 | JdGordon | yep |
| 10:47:15 | LinusN | i'm looking in the menu code |
| 10:47:31 | LinusN | as i see it, it does have support for submenus |
| 10:47:49 | JdGordon | correct |
| 10:47:55 | LinusN | but do we use it? |
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| 10:48:10 | JdGordon | yeah, all the menus use it |
| 10:48:43 | LinusN | maybe i'm mistaken then |
| 10:49:11 | JdGordon | have a look at menus/main_menu.c at the very bottom.. the main menu is just a list of submenus |
| 10:49:17 | LinusN | ok |
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| 10:50:34 | JdGordon | can I request the following 2 things are on he agenda for the talks? viewports and the left button in the setting screens? |
| 10:51:17 | LinusN | we talked viewports yesterday |
| 10:51:35 | LinusN | what about the left button? |
| 10:51:55 | JdGordon | remember the whole argment on weatehr it shhuold be cancel or accept? |
| 10:52:16 | LinusN | i think it should act randomly |
| 10:52:22 | LinusN | just for fun |
| 10:52:40 | B4gder | and we document "try it a few times and see what happens" |
| 10:53:26 | JdGordon | 6319 was the patch I did for i, but for some reason it was forgotten about... shhuold it be closed and we just accept it as it is? or change it? |
| 10:53:29 | LinusN | we should shuffle the menu items as well |
| 10:53:56 | hcs | but only the functions, not the names |
| 10:54:13 | LinusN | i don't really know, but in my opinion, left should not cancel |
| 10:54:29 | B4gder | JdGordon: speaking of patches, I could count to 13 patches still there submitted by you |
| 10:54:33 | LinusN | cancel is for lamers |
| 10:54:42 | JdGordon | B4gder: yeah, I rule :D |
| 10:54:50 | JdGordon | im goin through them closing them |
| 10:54:50 | LinusN | B4gder: yes, we always leave lame patches in the tracker to rot |
| 10:54:55 | B4gder | JdGordon: I say you should close them or commit them |
| 10:55:05 | B4gder | great |
| 10:55:40 | JdGordon | down to 12.. and one is a bug.. |
| 10:55:45 | JdGordon | without a patch |
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| 10:58:57 | JdGordon | composed in id3 viewer screen? commit or close it? |
| 10:59:43 | safetydan | Does anyone actually want the dithered mpeg player output instead of grayscale? |
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| 11:01:43 | safetydan | eh, gone now |
| 11:03:17 | JdGordon | Ok, cleaned out my old patches |
| 11:03:48 | * | JdGordon would like to commit 6798 on non-scrolling targets |
| 11:04:36 | B4gder | non-scrolling targets? |
| 11:04:42 | LinusN | what are non-scrolling targets? |
| 11:05:16 | JdGordon | bah, non-scroll wheel targets |
| 11:05:26 | * | JdGordon types too fast for brain |
| 11:11:50 | LinusN | JdGordon: can you explain a piece of menu code for me? |
| 11:12:00 | LinusN | line 580 in menu.c |
| 11:14:40 | LinusN | afaiu, it returns from a submenu to the current menu again, am i right? |
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| 11:31:05 | bluebrother | ah, something about the FS box on the front page: if you accidentially type a space in front of the number it breaks. |
| 11:31:28 | bluebrother | would be nice if this (and maybe an added FS#) would be stripped automatically |
| 11:31:41 | bluebrother | not that it's a big deal ... would just be nice. |
| 11:32:52 | B4gder | I agree |
| 11:33:05 | B4gder | someone with javascript ninja abilities could perhaps fix it |
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| 11:38:59 | Jungti1234 | hehehe.. |
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| 11:39:26 | petur | Jungti1234: hey long time no see ;) |
| 11:39:37 | Jungti1234 | hi petur :D |
| 11:40:08 | markun | Jungti1234: hey man! |
| 11:40:20 | Jungti1234 | hey markun! |
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| 11:41:49 | petur | austriancoder: any progress at the usb stack? :p |
| 11:42:08 | austriancoder | petur: yeah.. got it working ;) |
| 11:42:49 | pixelma | on a zune? ;) |
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| 11:43:02 | Jungti1234 | I'm watching you now :) |
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| 11:43:32 | * | LinusN is confused by the menu code |
| 11:44:00 | markun | :) |
| 11:45:07 | markun | Jungti1234: I told them you are famous in Korea now and get DAPs from iriver to test :) |
| 11:45:20 | * | B4gder bows in front of Jungti1234 |
| 11:45:36 | austriancoder | petur: I have looked ad some open-source stacks and will make a summary.. also i have looked abit in mx31 usb hardware |
| 11:45:37 | Jungti1234 | who? hehe |
| 11:45:37 | petur | look |
| 11:46:13 | markun | Jungti1234: look at the cam! |
| 11:46:21 | markun | too late.. |
| 11:46:36 | petur | look at the saved images :) |
| 11:46:52 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 11:47:06 | markun | Jungti1234: which bug did you find btw? |
| 11:49:23 | Jungti1234 | you can see about it in tracker |
| 11:50:16 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7192 |
| 11:50:46 | safetydan | Would file copying be faster if the CPU was boosted before the copy? |
| 11:52:08 | Jungti1234 | markun? |
| 11:52:37 | LinusN | safetydan: probably |
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| 11:52:47 | austriancoder | Tracker is broken: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7134 - last attached patch can not be found :/ |
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| 11:59:11 | Jungti1234 | markun, checked it? |
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| 12:01:55 | markun | Jungti1234: not yet |
| 12:02:11 | moos | hello here |
| 12:02:40 | markun | Jungti1234: yes, looks strange |
| 12:03:14 | JdGordon | LinusN: yes |
| 12:03:31 | moos | Bagder: I did read about svn access for language only, I'm candidate : ) I already thought to this in the past (even ask markun point of view) |
| 12:03:45 | Jungti1234 | hello moos |
| 12:04:02 | moos | hello |
| 12:04:42 | JdGordon | LinusN: umm... hmm... line 580 is a comment.. do you want the code above or below it explained? |
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| 12:07:19 | LinusN | hmm, maybe i had changed the file |
| 12:07:51 | Jungti1234 | markun: can you fix it? |
| 12:08:37 | LinusN | JdGordon: it's the if(current_submenus_menu != menu thing i'm thinking about |
| 12:08:45 | markun | Jungti1234: I don't know |
| 12:08:53 | markun | can take a look at it later |
| 12:09:00 | markun | where does the ' come from? |
| 12:09:03 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 12:09:07 | Jungti1234 | um, I don't know |
| 12:09:33 | Jungti1234 | it's cutted due to '. |
| 12:10:00 | bluebrother | JdGordon, LOL at your closing comment to FS #5782 :D |
| 12:10:17 | JdGordon | LinusN: ah ok, the current_submenus stuff is needed to handle dynamic menus. that array is populated i the init_menu_lists(). that check is needed in case we went into a funciton which called do_menu(), because if it did then that array would be wrong |
| 12:11:38 | LinusN | i'm investigating FS #7176 |
| 12:12:08 | LinusN | and it returns the wrong selected_item because do_menu() exits without unwinding the menu stack |
| 12:14:00 | JdGordon | I tinhk I rmember having a quick try at fixing it and one of the menus in onplay.c was using the wrong macro which caused some funnines.. it didnt fix it, but made it better |
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| 12:15:44 | LinusN | now it stays in the wps context menu if you have selected reshuffle in the playlist menu, because the reshuffle menu has the same index as the rating menu item |
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| 12:19:47 | petur | meeting time! |
| 12:19:48 | B4gder | talk time |
| 12:20:09 | petur | prepare yourself for an empty webcam image ;) |
| 12:20:16 | JdGordon | nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:20:45 | bluebrother | freeze an image with people sitting around so we don't feel so lonely here! |
| 12:21:00 | bluebrother | or replay the last hour or two ... |
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| 12:23:31 | Jungti1234 | urgh |
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| 12:34:09 | bluebrother | what happened to the recent svn table? Or am I the only one with that missing? |
| 12:35:15 | n1s | nope, it's gone here too |
| 12:44:45 | JdGordon | ? the row missing? or the whole table is gone? |
| 12:44:48 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 12:45:19 | Jungti1234 | what happened? |
| 12:45:26 | * | JdGordon doesnt know :p |
| 12:46:03 | Jungti1234 | svn table is missing |
| 12:46:17 | bluebrother | the title is present, everything else is missing |
| 12:46:24 | bluebrother | (on the front page that is) |
| 12:46:37 | JdGordon | so it is! |
| 12:46:47 | Jungti1234 | yep |
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| 12:47:55 | Viljar | Hey, does Mpegplayer supports iPod minis? |
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| 12:53:21 | Viljar | Anyone? :) |
| 12:54:13 | JdGordon | check the wiki... |
| 12:54:23 | JdGordon | I think its supported, but dunno at what framerate |
| 12:56:19 | JdGordon | $ svn up |
| 12:56:20 | JdGordon | svn: Can't open file '/sites/svn/rockbox/conf/passwd': Permission denied |
| 12:56:22 | Viljar | I saw the tick in front of the iPod mini on the wiki, but i haven't found any other information yet. |
| 12:56:22 | JdGordon | wtf? |
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| 13:00:57 | Jungti1234 | hey, what's mean of 'Same As Source'? |
| 13:02:04 | bluebrother | Viljar, it does |
| 13:02:23 | JdGordon | Jungti1234: umm.. whatever your comparing with Source is the same.. i.e not changed? |
| 13:02:26 | bluebrother | it's only rather slow. Well, at least the last time I tried mpegplayer with elephants dream |
| 13:02:54 | bluebrother | JdGordon, same here :( |
| 13:03:25 | Jungti1234 | desc: when recording source frequency setting must follow source |
| 13:03:25 | * | JdGordon wonders if any of the devcon laptops have an audible notification for irc... |
| 13:03:31 | Jungti1234 | but I can't understand.. |
| 13:03:55 | JdGordon | ping B4gder, Bagder, LinusN, amiconn, Cassandra, pixelma, petur, who else? |
| 13:04:12 | Jungti1234 | haha |
| 13:04:22 | bluebrother | Jungti1234, when recording via optical input the sampling frequency is set by the source |
| 13:04:40 | bluebrother | you missed Zagor and markun |
| 13:04:50 | JdGordon | doh! |
| 13:05:00 | bluebrother | but I don't think they will hear it. If there is some audible hilighting around at all. |
| 13:05:01 | Zagor | so I won't react ;) |
| 13:05:18 | bluebrother | uh-uh. Someone is watching ... |
| 13:05:18 | JdGordon | hehe |
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| 13:05:25 | Jungti1234 | uh hahaha |
| 13:05:46 | JdGordon | Zagor: also still getting heaps of php errors in fs... db stuffed or something? |
| 13:05:56 | bluebrother | maybe I should shut up and wait for the problem to fix "itself" :) |
| 13:06:29 | Zagor | I hope not. can you give me some URLs? |
| 13:06:46 | Jungti1234 | bluebrother: more easily... |
| 13:07:03 | JdGordon | Zagor: next time I see one.. I got one when adding a comment |
| 13:07:39 | Zagor | I'll create a bug entry where we can collect all flyspray issues |
| 13:07:50 | JdGordon | ruddy typical... didnt get one adding another comment |
| 13:08:15 | JdGordon | Notice: Undefined index: 0 in /usr/share/flyspray/htdocs/includes/class.flyspray.php on line 344 |
| 13:08:28 | JdGordon | in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/toplevel/proj1 |
| 13:08:37 | Zagor | yeah I've seen that one too |
| 13:09:03 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/proj1?do=index just gives me a white empty page |
| 13:09:45 | Zagor | I have allocated two hours now to try and fix some of these issues. Family life is tough :-) |
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| 13:11:45 | JdGordon | also, love all the \' and \" 's in the comments |
| 13:11:58 | Zagor | yeah, it's in their faq. fix coming up. |
| 13:12:06 | webguest73 | Hello! Are there any differences between the 5gb H10 and the 20gb h10? Thanks! |
| 13:12:25 | bluebrother | yes. Different hard disk size |
| 13:12:43 | webguest73 | I mean with Rockbox!!! |
| 13:12:51 | bluebrother | :D |
| 13:12:53 | Zagor | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7194 is the flyspray bug |
| 13:13:00 | bluebrother | if you are running Rockbox, no |
| 13:13:20 | JdGordon | Zagor: not a bug, but is there a reason we cant edit asignments and delete comments? |
| 13:13:26 | webguest73 | Okay. Thanks alot. |
| 13:13:29 | JdGordon | not that we use asssignemtns (maybe we shold start thought) |
| 13:13:33 | bluebrother | except for the hardware differences of course. All players have the same functionality unless it's impossible because of hardware reasons |
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| 13:14:16 | bluebrother | category manual? :o |
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| 13:14:33 | Zagor | JdGordon: I don't remember, really. I'll add those permissions and see if we get reminded :-) |
| 13:15:01 | JdGordon | I tihnk we had those permissions before.. |
| 13:15:06 | Zagor | I'll wait with assignment though, until we work out if/how we want that used |
| 13:15:30 | Zagor | or, what the heck. assignment enabled too now. |
| 13:15:51 | webguest05 | the badgers still haven't arrived yet. |
| 13:16:33 | JdGordon | oh joy... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?do=index&string=%20&type[]=&sev[]=&pri[]=&due[]=&dev=&cat[]=&status[]=open&order=&sort=&percent[]=&changedfrom=&closedfrom=&opened=&closed=&search_in_comments=&search_for_all=&reported[]=&only_primary=&only_watched=&closedto=&changedto=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&has_attachment= also gives me blank page |
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| 13:17:15 | Zagor | that blank page thing is strange. I can't find an error message anywhere. |
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| 13:17:48 | bluebrother | I think as we are allowed to edit everything that assignment is also included (but not shown as allowed) |
| 13:18:38 | Jungti1234 | what is trigger type? |
| 13:18:58 | bluebrother | Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 40 bytes) in /usr/share/flyspray/htdocs/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 2860 |
| 13:19:03 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:19:06 | bluebrother | tried to access index.php |
| 13:19:11 | Jungti1234 | setting for what? |
| 13:19:27 | bluebrother | setting on what event to start the recording |
| 13:20:01 | Zagor | bluebrother: aaah, maybe it's hitting the ram quota |
| 13:20:40 | bluebrother | wow −− is FS that greedy on RAM? |
| 13:20:49 | Zagor | I have no idea :) |
| 13:21:17 | JdGordon | or mem leaks? |
| 13:21:19 | Zagor | otoh 8MB isn't very much |
| 13:21:53 | bluebrother | depending on your application ;-) |
| 13:22:54 | JdGordon | your not going to say that <8mb is ideal for an mp3 player are you! |
| 13:24:48 | * | bluebrother wants to finish this IR receiver thingy for the h100 series −− using a tiny2313 with 2kiB flash and 128 Bytes SRAM :D |
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| 13:44:19 | amiconn | http://www.jens-arnold.net/Rockbox/Devcon_team.jpg (~1.5MB) |
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| 13:45:06 | * | JdGordon thinks someone doesnt like smiling... |
| 13:45:07 | Jungti1234 | handsome guys |
| 13:46:30 | Jungti1234 | someone hide behind LinusN.. |
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| 13:51:10 | Jungti1234 | which player support alarm? |
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| 13:56:27 | bluebrother | Ipods do afaik. |
| 13:56:31 | bluebrother | and some of the archos ones |
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| 14:03:23 | JdGordon | Zagor: mime-type error... I gt asked if I want to dowload index.php opening http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?order=date&project=1&tasks=all&string=&type=&sev=&dev=&due=&cat=&status=&order2=&sort=&sort2=&date=&project=1&sort=desc&order2=&sort2=desc |
| 14:03:45 | JdGordon | and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php |
| 14:03:56 | Zagor | snafu by me. better now? |
| 14:04:58 | Zagor | or, wait. those are the blank pages? |
| 14:05:18 | aliask | I get a blank page here |
| 14:06:40 | JdGordon | still asked to download... |
| 14:06:54 | Zagor | JdGordon: which browser do you use? |
| 14:06:58 | JdGordon | the downloaded file is blank though! |
| 14:07:01 | JdGordon | firefox 2 |
| 14:07:09 | bluebrother | now I get a "Zero size replied" error from my proxy |
| 14:07:13 | JdGordon | no, 1.5 |
| 14:09:15 | bluebrother | accessing a random task by the appropriate url works fine though |
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| 14:13:56 | Jungti1234 | which ipod!!!! |
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| 14:16:52 | JdGordon | all the later ones i assume |
| 14:17:06 | JdGordon | LinusN: any chance of getting the h300 alarm going soonish? |
| 14:17:10 | JdGordon | pretty please :p |
| 14:24:14 | bluebrother | look for the CONFIG_RTC define in the config-*.h files |
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| 14:27:56 | Zagor | bluebrother: where did you get that message about memory limit in flyspray? |
| 14:28:39 | bluebrother | on index.php (without anything else) |
| 14:29:03 | bluebrother | now it's an empty page again |
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| 14:36:29 | JdGordon | yay index.php works |
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| 14:38:23 | Zagor | flyspray index page works again |
| 14:39:26 | Nico_P | where are all the devcon guys ? |
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| 14:42:44 | bluebrother | nice. Tasklist works too :) |
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| 14:44:40 | Nico_P | wow is this the latest flysrpay ? |
| 14:44:50 | Zagor | bluebrother: yeah, it was the same problem: too low memory limit. |
| 14:44:58 | Zagor | Nico_P: yes |
| 14:45:03 | Nico_P | very nice |
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| 14:45:51 | aliask | Hehe, love the "overall progress" stat in the overview - 1% :D |
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| 14:46:11 | JdGordon | does that include requests though? |
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| 14:48:44 | Lear | Doesn't handle stuff like ' or " that well though... |
| 14:49:02 | Zagor | Lear: i have a fix for that, coming soon |
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| 14:51:46 | petur | Nico_P: we do have to eat sometimes.... |
| 14:52:02 | bluebrother | something differen: shouldn't we ask users to use their real name on FS? |
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| 14:53:00 | B4gder | JdGordon: we all here basically agree that left should not cancel settings |
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| 14:53:38 | * | amiconn waves goodbye from devcon |
| 14:53:39 | TrueJournals | I saw a bunch of updates, do any of them fix rockbox not booting on the Sansa/H10? |
| 14:54:05 | webguest31 | Hacking the broadcom chip...? |
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| 14:54:36 | * | bluebrother tries to find the context for webguest31's question but fails to find it |
| 14:55:07 | bluebrother | have a nice trip! |
| 14:55:22 | webguest31 | * got high |
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| 14:57:41 | FOAD_ | I seem unable to boot my iRiver H340 into the original mode. Help? |
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| 15:00:55 | PaulJam | FOAD_: there are several ways to boot the OF. how did you try to boot int the OF and what happened? |
| 15:01:51 | FOAD_ | Circle button + play, |
| 15:02:00 | FOAD_ | It get to "booting original firmware" then shuts down. |
| 15:02:21 | PaulJam | you propaby don't holt the play button long enough |
| 15:02:30 | FOAD_ | Okay, I'll hold it longer. |
| 15:03:00 | FOAD_ | You are a wizard. |
| 15:03:02 | FOAD_ | Thanks. |
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| 15:04:25 | Zagor | got to go |
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| 15:04:28 | B4gder | oh, nice mail subject |
| 15:06:16 | bluebrother | the "B#" in front of the subject is missing |
| 15:07:18 | * | petur updated his pics page again |
| 15:07:30 | * | bluebrother wonders why FS doesn't have our notification subjects already implemented −− always the same subject is kinda inconvenient |
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| 15:07:48 | B4gder | amen |
| 15:08:52 | * | B4gder might have FS #6652 fixed |
| 15:09:15 | * | SaLoMoN Winamp 5.35 - Artist - Track 4 (playing) - 44kHz 192kbps stereo - 9m 21s long |>>>>>>>>>>> (49%)| |
| 15:09:15 | petur | amiconn and pixelma are now on their way to the airport |
| 15:09:31 | petur | SaLoMoN: no scripts please |
| 15:10:27 | SaLoMoN | yah sorry^ |
| 15:10:34 | SaLoMoN | i used the wrong command |
| 15:10:38 | TrueJournals | Yay! The boot issue was fixed :-D |
| 15:10:42 | FOAD | Not very wise. |
| 15:10:42 | SaLoMoN | so it posted it to all channels |
| 15:10:43 | SaLoMoN | :/ |
| 15:12:47 | robin0800 | wps tag %bc "c" if the unit is currently charging the battery (only on targets that have software charge control or monitoring |
| 15:13:13 | robin0800 | any one know if this applies to ipods |
| 15:13:22 | TrueJournals | Yes, it does |
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| 15:13:42 | robin0800 | good |
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| 15:14:09 | robin0800 | now all ive got to do is to get it to work |
| 15:15:14 | nickspoon | Is there anybody here particularly knowledgeable about the workings of the X5? |
| 15:15:20 | JdGordon | B4gder: ok cool... except I remembered why left was cancel... its a keymap problem and might be slightly annoying to fix |
| 15:15:42 | markun | JdGordon: are you the button/actions guy? |
| 15:16:14 | JdGordon | I guess so... |
| 15:16:39 | markun | There is a bug and I don't know where to look for it: |
| 15:17:32 | markun | somehow button presses from the Gigabeat remote are ignored if hold is on and turns off the backlight, unless they are button repeats |
| 15:17:49 | markun | so skipping to the next song doesn't work in the WPS, but you can seek and change the volume |
| 15:18:21 | markun | let me check the various combinations of hold and backlight |
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| 15:19:21 | markun | do you know where the problem could be? |
| 15:19:59 | robin0800 | is there any thing wrong here %?bc<%xdE|> as it dosen't seem to work |
| 15:21:33 | JdGordon | markun: I dont see any remote button in keymaps/keymap-gigabeat.c ... are the remote buttons being done differentely to the other targets? |
| 15:21:46 | robin0800 | same code works for %bp but not for %pc |
| 15:22:05 | * | JdGordon sees your comit |
| 15:22:21 | markun | :) |
| 15:22:26 | robin0800 | %bc of course |
| 15:22:32 | markun | but it didn't change a thing |
| 15:22:54 | markun | thought it would be nice to commit it anyway to be more flexible |
| 15:24:36 | JdGordon | bug in the hold button code for the gb maybe? |
| 15:24:45 | JdGordon | the keymap file looks fine after the update |
| 15:25:47 | markun | you mean a long press or the hold switch? |
| 15:25:57 | JdGordon | yeah, it looks like you ignore all presses if the hold swithc is on? even remote ones? |
| 15:26:25 | JdGordon | oh, no, my bad |
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| 15:27:26 | Jungti1234 | markun? |
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| 15:28:48 | markun | JdGordon: with the charger connected and 'backlight off while plugged in' I can't use the remote at all |
| 15:31:20 | markun | JdGordon: oops, I had the remote disconnected during that test ;) |
| 15:31:30 | JdGordon | haha :) |
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| 15:32:32 | JdGordon | so how much of the not workin still doesnt work? |
| 15:33:10 | Eagleray | Just curious here, feel free to ignore me: How has the auto-build system been holding up under all the commits you guys have been churning out? (Thanks by the way). What happens if someone commits while the server is still building the previous commit? |
| 15:34:21 | Eagleray | Also would like to say thanks guys, for a wonderful & high-quality OS for my DAP. Very much appreciated! |
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| 15:35:24 | B4gder | Eagleray: the auto build system loves to work for us |
| 15:35:29 | markun | JdGordon: if I plug in the charger the remote buttons work, regardless of the status of the backlight |
| 15:36:00 | | Part agm3nt |
| 15:36:01 | B4gder | Eagleray: if we commit while a build is going on, there will be another build when the current one finishes |
| 15:36:21 | JdGordon | markun: and remote buttons with hold on works? |
| 15:36:23 | Eagleray | B4gder: :-) Thanks |
| 15:36:46 | B4gder | crap, flyspray broke |
| 15:37:07 | markun | JdGordon: no |
| 15:37:28 | markun | JdGordon: well, let me try with the remote on and backlight off but no charger connected |
| 15:37:59 | JdGordon | I wonder why backlight has anything to do with it.. although we had a similar bug with the h300 apparently? probably a bug i the bl code? |
| 15:38:08 | markun | with backlight on it does work |
| 15:38:57 | JdGordon | hmm.. bug with the "first button enables backlight" setting maybe? |
| 15:39:14 | * | JdGordon gets shivers down spine while opening backlight.c |
| 15:40:08 | B4gder | aaaalways look on the bright side of liiiife |
| 15:40:24 | B4gder | singalong time at devcon |
| 15:40:24 | markun | JdGordon: I tried all 8 combinations of backlight, remote and charger |
| 15:40:49 | markun | JdGordon: the only case where the buttons don't work is remote on, backlight off, charger off |
| 15:41:06 | markun | in all other combinations it works fine |
| 15:41:26 | JdGordon | whats the backlight settings set to in the cfg? |
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| 15:41:48 | markun | the brightness? |
| 15:43:35 | JdGordon | the timeout settings |
| 15:43:39 | JdGordon | 3 or 4 of them |
| 15:43:41 | markun | JdGordon: it also works if "backlight on hold" is set to normal and hold is on and the light times out |
| 15:43:57 | JdGordon | does the remote have an lcd? |
| 15:44:25 | markun | could there be a problem when the light is being turned on because of a button press but the hold prevents it because "backlight on hold" is "off" ? |
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| 15:44:39 | markun | no, doesn't have a LCD |
| 15:45:16 | JdGordon | its possible.. |
| 15:45:37 | markun | wonder where this code is |
| 15:45:42 | JdGordon | is this the firs target with a remote with no lcd and the mai uint has a backlight? |
| 15:45:48 | JdGordon | button.c i tinhk |
| 15:46:26 | JdGordon | yeah, I tinhk im looking at the bug.. around line 240 |
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| 15:47:36 | markun | ah, the first_keypress.. |
| 15:48:01 | JdGordon | that whole else {} needs fixing with the #ifdefs |
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| 15:49:04 | markun | JdGordon: yes, disabling the "first keypress turns on backlight" setting fixes the problem |
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| 15:50:06 | JdGordon | try http://pastebin.ca/498483 |
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| 15:53:44 | markun | JdGordon: maybe the check for the remote button should be done first? |
| 15:54:27 | JdGordon | meh, the cpu is more than fast enough... and it makes the mode look slightly more messy |
| 15:54:30 | markun | well, it doesn't matter much I guess |
| 15:55:48 | JdGordon | re: the hxxx REC button (and the sansa one), wouldnt it be better if short press is rec screen and long is the uer defined action? |
| 15:55:58 | LinusN | no |
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| 15:56:12 | LinusN | you don't want to enter the recording screen by accident |
| 15:56:19 | JdGordon | and, btw, if that patch is allowed in, we are goin to have a nightmare with people wanting evry button being customisable |
| 15:56:25 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:56:39 | JdGordon | I guess that makes sene |
| 15:56:42 | LinusN | and then we will seek them out and eliminate them |
| 15:56:49 | JdGordon | :) |
| 15:56:51 | markun | ALL of them |
| 15:56:56 | LinusN | one by one |
| 15:57:21 | LinusN | the rockbox fund will be spent on hiring hitmen |
| 15:57:38 | JdGordon | you have enough for hitmen but not a plane ticket for us :'( |
| 15:57:46 | LinusN | money well spent i'd say |
| 15:57:49 | JdGordon | or are hitmen really cheap in sweden? |
| 15:58:15 | JdGordon | markun: did that patch work? |
| 15:58:24 | jaczehack_ | hitmen ar sheep in sweden |
| 15:58:31 | LinusN | yes, contract killers are subsidized in sweden |
| 15:58:35 | petur | we found a very cheap one in Australia, he's already on his way :p |
| 15:58:42 | JdGordon | awesome |
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| 16:00:18 | markun | JdGordon: thanks, problem solved |
| 16:00:20 | LinusN | just fill in the names in the HitList page in the wiki |
| 16:00:26 | markun | JdGordon: can you commit it? |
| 16:00:37 | markun | btw, there is a bugreport for it |
| 16:00:59 | JdGordon | whats the FS #? |
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| 16:01:41 | JdGordon | we realy do need a wiki page with all the HAVE_ defines and the assumptios on which are related |
| 16:02:07 | markun | JdGordon: can't find it, I'll let you know when I do |
| 16:02:13 | bluebrother | really? Why not just grep them out of the sources? |
| 16:02:18 | B4gder | such a page would be outdated in no time |
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| 16:02:40 | B4gder | imho, assumptions that HAVE_ defines are related should be enforced in source code |
| 16:02:52 | JdGordon | of course... but markun's problem was bcause of a wrong assumption, which im sure isnt the only one we have made |
| 16:03:25 | B4gder | no, I bet we have at least one bug remaining :-) |
| 16:03:45 | B4gder | but how would a wiki page help us with that? |
| 16:04:15 | JdGordon | it would.. um... make them more obvious? i dunno |
| 16:04:21 | JdGordon | markun: commited |
| 16:04:26 | B4gder | yes and again, why would a wiki page help us with fixing that? |
| 16:04:33 | B4gder | arg |
| 16:04:51 | * | B4gder messes up |
| 16:05:08 | JdGordon | LinusN: did you see my comment in the menu bug task? |
| 16:05:13 | markun | JdGordon: thanks |
| 16:05:54 | * | JdGordon blames markun if the build isnt green :p |
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| 16:06:53 | JdGordon | anyone know the fs# of the rec button patch? |
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| 16:07:55 | markun | JdGordon: we might not commit the actual patch I think, depending on how it's implemented |
| 16:07:57 | hidden_ | italianii? |
| 16:08:23 | markun | hidden_: probably not. Can you try english? |
| 16:08:38 | hidden_ | the wps file |
| 16:08:57 | JdGordon | markun: I wanted to see how it was done... I have an idea how it might work well with the actio stuff.. and make buttonbar's more useful |
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| 16:09:49 | bluebrother | JdGordon, fs#5555 iirc :) |
| 16:10:18 | scorche | wow @ "Legal Status" |
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| 16:10:32 | bluebrother | how about adding a dropdown list for choosing the build at the top of the svn builds page? |
| 16:10:45 | hidden_ | my wps file doesn't works |
| 16:11:01 | * | JdGordon got an interesting page trying to get to tasklist in FS |
| 16:11:06 | bluebrother | like as quick access to the download table −− could solve the problem of that blind guy on the ml |
| 16:11:19 | JdGordon | it sort of timeot'ed and im looking at the sql command |
| 16:13:33 | desowin | is tracker down ? |
| 16:13:53 | Cassandra | I may have let my tnedency to use long words run away with me there, sorry. |
| 16:14:06 | desowin | oh, mysql error pop'ed up |
| 16:14:48 | B4gder | seems to be a veeery solid release this new one |
| 16:14:54 | obo | desowin: thanks for fixing that patch - I can't believe I missed it :) |
| 16:14:59 | LinusN | JdGordon: your patch solves the problem nicely |
| 16:14:59 | B4gder | restarting mysql solves the hang |
| 16:15:15 | desowin | obo: :-) |
| 16:15:18 | JdGordon | B4gder: no space left on wwww.rockbox |
| 16:15:33 | B4gder | ? |
| 16:15:37 | JdGordon | LinusN: but is it correct? |
| 16:15:52 | LinusN | i think it looks ok |
| 16:15:55 | JdGordon | http://build.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=20070520T140423Z&type=iPod%20Nano%20-%20Simulator |
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| 16:16:27 | B4gder | hm |
| 16:16:38 | JdGordon | LinusN: I mean, does it make sense to always set to the selection from the menu do_menu was called from? |
| 16:17:01 | JdGordon | probably caused the sql errors on FS also |
| 16:17:19 | LinusN | JdGordon: i think so, yes |
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| 16:17:25 | * | bluebrother wonders about the h100 record button things ... |
| 16:17:43 | * | JdGordon is scared by his patch |
| 16:17:48 | bluebrother | so "adopting" that patch means add something unconfigurable? |
| 16:18:22 | bluebrother | JdGordon, "his" or "this" patch? ;-) |
| 16:18:30 | JdGordon | 5555 |
| 16:18:52 | bluebrother | hehe. I thought you wouldn't be scared by one of your own patches ;-) |
| 16:19:07 | JdGordon | by all means, rec shuold goto rec... but that much configuration really is just settings bloat |
| 16:19:25 | bluebrother | configurable button is no good |
| 16:19:32 | JdGordon | and the way he did it isnt very nice imo |
| 16:19:44 | bluebrother | haven't looked into the code |
| 16:20:12 | bluebrother | why not use short rec for the backlight only? If it does something else a couple of people will miss it |
| 16:20:26 | LinusN | not if it is configurable |
| 16:20:40 | B4gder | ... and short press does backlight only by default |
| 16:20:44 | bluebrother | it's quite nice that the ipod can turn on the backlight by simply tapping the scroll wheel |
| 16:20:57 | * | bluebrother really dislikes configurable buttons |
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| 16:28:01 | Llorean | Also if you make the record button configurable, people with targets without one will start claiming it's unfair they don't get a configurable button, I suspect |
| 16:28:17 | * | DerPapst is reading the DevCom wiki page... "To find out whether the Ipod 5.5G 30GB has 32 or 64MB memory, we suggest attempting to run a 64MB build on one." Afaik only the 60GB and the 80GB iPod video have 64MB ram. |
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| 16:28:50 | B4gder | DerPapst: you actually know that the 30GB 5.5 has 32MB ? |
| 16:29:38 | JdGordon | Llorean: unless a user has both I doubt they would even know that some targets could do that and some couldnt |
| 16:29:57 | JdGordon | barely anyone reads the manuals.. let alone the manual or a target they dont own |
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| 16:30:20 | Llorean | I think word would get around |
| 16:30:20 | markun | hi gtkspert |
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| 16:30:45 | Llorean | Are there really that many things a button could do that it needs to be configurable? |
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| 16:31:13 | * | bluebrother votes for "no" |
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| 16:31:43 | * | B4gder voted no as well ;-) |
| 16:31:49 | * | LinusN adds a name to HitList |
| 16:32:10 | JdGordon | LinusN votes yes? |
| 16:32:25 | LinusN | actually i did |
| 16:32:26 | Cassandra | DerPapst, the point is, we're not sure whether or not the 5.5G 30GB has 32MB or 64MB. |
| 16:32:33 | * | bluebrother looses his faith |
| 16:32:37 | LinusN | hahaha |
| 16:32:47 | * | Cassandra votes for more badgers. |
| 16:32:55 | Llorean | I mean, I can see "configurability" if that means, say, two options. |
| 16:33:03 | Cassandra | THat's a policy we can all get behind, I feel. |
| 16:33:03 | Llorean | Like an option that says "Record button backlight only" |
| 16:33:04 | LinusN | or 4 |
| 16:33:17 | Llorean | What are the 4? |
| 16:33:21 | DerPapst | mmmhh.. well i'm also not 100% sure about this as well. (the default "i read it somewhere" reason) |
| 16:33:24 | LinusN | i dunno really |
| 16:33:56 | bluebrother | so what could that button do on a short press? It could be used as sensible shortcut in the currently shown screen |
| 16:34:05 | Cassandra | Ah, was that the sweet sweet sound of someone's innocence shattering? My work for today is done. |
| 16:34:10 | DerPapst | LinusN: do you have the 5.5G 30GB or 80GB model? |
| 16:34:12 | Llorean | I mean, I personally don't see too many "it's so useful it's worth making it configurable" uses for the button, personally |
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| 16:34:17 | LinusN | DerPapst: 80 |
| 16:34:18 | Llorean | but that doesn't mean they don't exist. |
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| 16:34:27 | bluebrother | but when it is a shortcut for changing to something completely different ... wouldn't that be prone to missuse? |
| 16:34:28 | JdGordon | What about allowing it to be customizable for any menu or button accessable from that screen...? It would have t be configured by a text file, but it would be sweet |
| 16:34:41 | Llorean | But I can see the use of a dedicated light-tap backlight button, for some people |
| 16:35:08 | Llorean | So an option between using it for the backlight, and for one chosen function, I wouldn't object to. |
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| 16:35:13 | bluebrother | I could think of using a short press on that button as shortcut, and provide an option to turn it off. |
| 16:35:14 | Cassandra | Actually I think the absolute silliest thing we can do is to just not use the button. |
| 16:35:26 | LinusN | amen to that |
| 16:35:34 | bluebrother | we're doing that since quite a while ... ;-) |
| 16:35:35 | * | JdGordon dittos that |
| 16:35:44 | Llorean | But I personally think either the FM Radio or the Playlist Viewer are the more obvious views of the button. |
| 16:36:02 | bluebrother | I agree that we should use the button. But I don't think it should be configurable |
| 16:36:04 | Llorean | FM Radio makes it really easy to record the radio, and playlist viewer seems to be what a lot of people would like to use it for. |
| 16:36:29 | bluebrother | it could be a shortcut to the playlist from the wps. |
| 16:36:58 | Llorean | FM radio from the menus, Playlist from the WPS/Filetree/Database? |
| 16:37:21 | bluebrother | something like that |
| 16:37:24 | JdGordon | ... or a 2nd quickscreen everywhere? |
| 16:37:33 | LinusN | the people that never use the radio will of course complain |
| 16:37:36 | bluebrother | I only fear the confusion because its function changes ... |
| 16:37:48 | bluebrother | there will always be people complaining ;-) |
| 16:37:59 | Cassandra | The thing is, evenyone thinks the use for the button is "obvious" and they all think what it should do is different. |
| 16:38:05 | bluebrother | 2nd quickscreen? And what to do for all other devices? |
| 16:38:19 | JdGordon | cant please everyone.... |
| 16:38:35 | bluebrother | they obviously haven't discussed what's obvious ;-) |
| 16:38:41 | Cassandra | Allowing any of the main menu options provides flexibility without opening the door too far to anarchy in my opinion. |
| 16:38:43 | JdGordon | btw, the sansa has the rec button and not all have the fm... so thats another annoyin thing we cant use it for |
| 16:38:45 | Llorean | LinusN: And the people who never use Recording don't want long press to go there, I'm sure. |
| 16:38:56 | LinusN | definitely so |
| 16:39:10 | LinusN | the long press should be configurable as well |
| 16:39:16 | * | LinusN hides |
| 16:39:19 | bluebrother | I disagree. |
| 16:39:21 | JdGordon | why stop there then? |
| 16:39:27 | JdGordon | configureable play |
| 16:39:30 | bluebrother | where was that HitList again? |
| 16:39:35 | Cassandra | You've gotta stop somewhere. |
| 16:39:36 | Llorean | I don't think people should've bought a recording device if they don't expect a button to be used for recording |
| 16:39:47 | LinusN | JdGordon: that's as far as we want to go |
| 16:39:48 | Llorean | There are plenty of players without recording functionality, and often you pay more for it. |
| 16:40:21 | bluebrother | when do you long-press a button anyway? Only if you really need to |
| 16:40:26 | JdGordon | the scary (?) thing is though, that with a little config parsing, we could make the ui entirely configurable. |
| 16:40:33 | bluebrother | i.e. context menu |
| 16:40:34 | JdGordon | thanks to actions and the new menu api |
| 16:40:39 | LinusN | JdGordon: let's not go there |
| 16:40:59 | bluebrother | we could do a lot. But do we want this? I don't think so. |
| 16:41:10 | JdGordon | I agree... but the code to configure one button properly, is the same as configuring 100 |
| 16:41:49 | LinusN | JdGordon: just don't tell anyone :-) |
| 16:42:05 | * | JdGordon votes short press is rec and long press is fm |
| 16:42:09 | bluebrother | I think it's only mostly the same. Not exactly :) |
| 16:42:19 | Llorean | Long press should be record, I think. |
| 16:42:27 | JdGordon | the button is named rec.... |
| 16:42:29 | Llorean | To prevent accidentally filling your HD up with clutter easily |
| 16:42:40 | bluebrother | just look what Iriver printed on the player: long is rec. |
| 16:42:58 | bluebrother | as we use the play button the same as it's printed too, why not do this for the rec button as well? |
| 16:43:02 | JdGordon | its a dot on my h300... |
| 16:43:43 | JdGordon | Llorean: we could have a confirmation before leaving the wps? |
| 16:44:39 | bluebrother | woha? Then we need a confimation of the stop button as well |
| 16:45:20 | * | JdGordon wonders how sansa can get away with a total of 10 settings for the whole system |
| 16:45:24 | JdGordon | we have >180 |
| 16:45:29 | bluebrother | simplification? |
| 16:45:42 | bluebrother | not having any features except play and stop? |
| 16:46:04 | JdGordon | or not having to listen to angry users who want settings bloat |
| 16:46:44 | bluebrother | who wants settings anyway? Remove all settings and set what's best for the user. MS shows us how this works since years! |
| 16:47:58 | * | petur puts Linus on the hitlist 3 times |
| 16:48:05 | petur | just to be sure |
| 16:48:35 | bluebrother | because of the ESD sandals? *g* |
| 16:48:50 | LinusN | hahaha |
| 16:49:39 | petur | I'm debugging why I don't get USBOTG power on his unit, which turned out to be the US model |
| 16:50:05 | JdGordon | hehe silly bugger :) |
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| 16:50:15 | Domonoky | :-) that are the best bugs :-) |
| 16:50:19 | * | JdGordon 's us model has had the usbotg hack done |
| 16:50:20 | Jungti1234 | I can't connect tracker page |
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| 16:52:25 | AceNik | hey guys can someone commit this patch of sokoban, #6702 |
| 16:52:36 | AceNik | its really slick |
| 16:52:47 | bluebrother | tracker is down for me too. |
| 16:52:53 | Jungti1234 | yes.. |
| 16:53:21 | B4gder | the tracker is clearly in a very crappy state now |
| 16:53:23 | Llorean | bluebrother: Try http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=1 |
| 16:53:37 | Llorean | The basic index page doesn't work, you have to have at least a type or a filter of some sort |
| 16:53:56 | bluebrother | Llorean, Zagor fixed that shortly ago |
| 16:54:00 | Jungti1234 | Query { SELECT t.*, lc.category_name AS category_name, MAX(h.event_date) AS event_date, ...... |
| 16:54:24 | B4gder | devcon is about to close |
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| 16:54:34 | B4gder | for this time |
| 16:54:37 | bluebrother | jumping directly to a task also doesn't work |
| 16:54:45 | bluebrother | looks like something times our |
| 16:54:53 | AceNik | what its over so soon ? |
| 16:55:05 | Llorean | bluebrother: Ah, it was working for me. |
| 16:55:21 | Llorean | Sorry |
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| 16:55:33 | bluebrother | ok, for the logs: I get "Got error 28 from storage engine" now |
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| 16:55:45 | AceNik | B4gder:you all leaving already? |
| 16:55:49 | bluebrother | *sic* fun's all over :o |
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| 16:56:37 | JdGordon | and on that note... /me is gonig to bed |
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| 16:57:10 | eMb | Hey, when it says that the sansa e200 series is supported, does this include the e2XX (eg e280) or not? |
| 16:57:12 | bluebrother | how much beer is left btw? |
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| 16:58:24 | Domonoky | eMb: it means all e2XX but no e2XXR :-) |
| 16:58:32 | eMb | awesome, thanks |
| 16:59:11 | eMb | might be getting one tonight for ~100 USD |
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| 16:59:26 | eMb | but probably not, bidding always goes insane during the last few minutes |
| 16:59:36 | LinusN | time to call it a day |
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| 17:01:54 | * | DerPapst waves back |
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| 17:03:04 | * | bluebrother waves adjö to devcon |
| 17:03:51 | eMb | tja |
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| 17:27:14 | barrywardell | does anyone know why the last two attached files in FS #7134 are giving a "File does not exist anymore." error when I try to download them? |
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| 17:43:53 | barrywardell | now FS isn't working at all - I just get SQL statements. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 17:44:48 | scorche | <B4gder> the tracker is clearly in a very crappy state now |
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| 18:10:30 | xvlun | hi everybody. i got a strange problem with rockbox (the heavily patched sound improved anythingbutipod build) and the original firmware. the original fw seems to be catched in a database update loop. every time i try to boot it it updates the database, reboots (i use the left ky then of course) and starts again to update the database. is this a known problem? |
| 18:10:54 | Llorean | xvlun: Please don't ask for help with other people's builds here. |
| 18:11:10 | Llorean | They've made changes to the software and we can't predict or know what side effects those changes have. |
| 18:11:26 | bluebrother | xvlun, also, you haven't told us what player you are talking about. |
| 18:11:34 | Llorean | bluebrother: e200, I'll wager |
| 18:11:48 | bluebrother | you might want to try the Unsupported Builds forum and look for the build you're using (if it's present there) |
| 18:11:52 | xvlun | soryy, yes its an e270 |
| 18:12:20 | bluebrother | Llorean, guessed that too, but guessing is usually not a good idea when looking for help ;-) |
| 18:12:31 | xvlun | ok, i always wondered what the purpose of this subforum was ;9 |
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| 18:19:48 | xvlun | anyway. to me it seems more like a problem with the original fw then one with rockbox. has anyone in here ever experienced such behaviour? |
| 18:21:23 | Llorean | xvlun: If it has nothing to do with Rockbox at all, this isn't the right place either, though. |
| 18:21:40 | xvlun | ouch |
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| 18:22:44 | Llorean | But upon booting the bootloader can modify a bit that tells the original firmware to update the database, so a modified bootloader or Rockbox could very easily cause such problems. |
| 18:23:14 | XavierGr | ah Devcon ended, too bad :( |
| 18:23:39 | xvlun | is there a way to set this bit manually |
| 18:23:45 | XavierGr | I hope the west version will be as good and productive as this |
| 18:23:46 | crashd | did we get any kickass updates for devcon? ;)O |
| 18:24:05 | scorche | crashd: see the wiki page |
| 18:24:15 | crashd | www.rockbox.org/devcon2007? |
| 18:24:39 | scorche | XavierGr: i hope so too, although there will likely be a bit less of the super-official talks |
| 18:25:25 | Llorean | xvlun: Yes, but you'd have to read the source code and see which bit it is, I have no clue where or what it is. |
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| 18:27:59 | Llorean | scorche: Do you know if they had specific objections to the "Ultima" theme that's been put forth as a new candidate for default? |
| 18:28:03 | barrywardell | xvlun: the latest official Rockbox bootloader disables database rebuild for the 1.00.12E and 1.01.11A when the usb cable is connected |
| 18:28:40 | scorche | Llorean: no clue |
| 18:29:00 | Llorean | barrywardell: But nobody should be using that one. |
| 18:29:19 | Llorean | At least, nobody who's followed the official instructions, rather |
| 18:29:29 | barrywardell | I should have been clearer. I meant the latest version included in sansapatcher |
| 18:29:48 | Llorean | Oh, right, version numbers. |
| 18:29:53 | Llorean | The new one includes other versions too, right? |
| 18:30:09 | barrywardell | yeah, it adds 1.00.12A too |
| 18:30:30 | Llorean | Which is I guess what version I'm running. |
| 18:30:40 | barrywardell | we should probably tag bootloader versions in svn |
| 18:30:51 | Llorean | Are buttons working in the bootloader again? |
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| 18:30:56 | barrywardell | not yet, no |
| 18:31:05 | Llorean | And do MI4 builds work again? |
| 18:31:15 | barrywardell | mi4 builds? |
| 18:31:17 | Llorean | Earlier Rockbox on the MI4 targets wasn't starting |
| 18:31:21 | Llorean | This was yesterday |
| 18:31:27 | Llorean | I didn't see a commit that specifically mentioned fixing this |
| 18:31:44 | bluebrother | someone said it's working again earlier today |
| 18:32:00 | Llorean | Alright |
| 18:32:48 | xvlun | but it doesn't do for 1.02.x? |
| 18:33:12 | Llorean | xvlun: It still shouldn't loop forever. |
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| 18:33:53 | Topic | "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines | Rockbox Devcon 2007 Highlights - http://www.rockbox.org/devcon2007/ | DevCon-West: - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevConWest2007" by scorche (i=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 18:33:57 | barrywardell | Llorean: oh, I hadn't heard about that. was that a bootloader problem? |
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| 18:34:28 | barrywardell | xvlun: no, not yet. it's not too hard to add, but needs someone to do it |
| 18:34:45 | Llorean | barrywardell: No, it was a build problem, I think |
| 18:35:03 | Llorean | barrywardell: Using the same bootloader, the bootloader started reporting the "length" of the binary as much smaller than it should be. |
| 18:36:05 | barrywardell | weird. Is that in the IRC logs? |
| 18:37:49 | Llorean | barrywardell: See at about 19:57 in the 5/19 log |
| 18:38:14 | xvlun | can i use recovery mode to uninstall sansa bootloader? how can this be done to cut the loop? |
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| 18:39:18 | barrywardell | xvlun: one option is to use recovery mode, yes |
| 18:39:44 | barrywardell | when in recovery mode, put a PP5022.mi4 file with the SanDisk OF in it on |
| 18:39:53 | barrywardell | and that should upgrade the firmware |
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| 18:40:30 | barrywardell | If you still have problems, go into recovery mode again and put the PP5022.mi4 file on the disk and also create an empty file called sansa.fmt |
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| 18:40:40 | barrywardell | that will format your disk and wipe your files, so beware! |
| 18:42:10 | xvlun | that should be no problem when it doesn't brick the device |
| 18:42:13 | * | barrywardell had to do that recently with a friend's sansa |
| 18:42:42 | barrywardell | as long as you only put those two files on and the sansa.fmt file is empty it shouldn't brick it |
| 18:46:10 | xvlun | so regardless which version of sansa of is used this (http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/SKU_E-PP5022.mi4) will be the right file? |
| 18:47:26 | xvlun | (european version) |
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| 18:50:44 | xvlun | barrywardell, so regardless which version of sansa of is used this (http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/SKU_E-PP5022.mi4) will be the right file? |
| 18:51:38 | barrywardell_ | yes, if you don't have a radio on your sansa |
| 18:51:44 | barrywardell_ | i use this file: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/1.01.11A/PP5022.mi4 |
| 18:52:23 | barrywardell_ | that is for the american (with radio) version |
| 18:52:55 | barrywardell_ | regardless of which file you use |
| 18:53:07 | xvlun | european version is perfect... |
| 18:53:10 | barrywardell_ | make sure it's called PP5022.mi4 when you put it on the player |
| 18:55:24 | xvlun | ok, thank you very much |
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| 19:00:51 | graue | hi. i have never owned a digital audio player. i want to buy one specifically to use rockbox on. which one should i buy? |
| 19:02:00 | Llorean | It depends on how you intend to use it |
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| 19:02:06 | Llorean | And what requirements you have from a player |
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| 19:04:06 | barrywardell_ | Llorean: I can boot builds from the 19th and 18th fine here. I dunno what the problem was but it's not happening now so I guess it fixed itself |
| 19:04:29 | Llorean | Alright |
| 19:06:35 | Viljar | Are videos viewable on mini with Mpegplayer? I mean how much fps? |
| 19:06:44 | Viljar | I mean iPod mini.. |
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| 19:08:06 | Llorean | Very slow on grayscale targets |
| 19:08:22 | bluebrother | slow. I'd call it unusable. |
| 19:08:31 | bluebrother | at least if you want to actually _watch_ a video |
| 19:08:42 | Llorean | You can probably listen to them fine |
| 19:09:37 | Viljar | Okay, ipl can play uncompressed videos on minis too right? |
| 19:09:52 | Llorean | Dunno |
| 19:09:59 | Llorean | Most of us don't use iPL |
| 19:10:04 | Llorean | Also, our videos aren't uncompressed |
| 19:10:13 | Viljar | I know, i know.. |
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| 19:11:00 | Viljar | I'm impressed, that my nano can play uncompressed videos at 30fps, really, wow.. |
| 19:11:07 | Viljar | compressed***** |
| 19:11:10 | Viljar | :D |
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| 19:40:54 | graue | Llorean: well, mainly for listening to music |
| 19:41:17 | graue | but i have also thought it would be cool if i could write some music making software and compose some bleep-bloop type music on the go |
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| 20:49:50 | amiconn | Bagder: Seems www.rockbox.org needs some care - see the ipod color sim build... |
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| 21:11:10 | Nico_P | the tracker is down too |
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| 21:22:46 | major_works | Toni: Around? |
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| 21:25:29 | Toni1 | again a red build, but not caused by my changes. |
| 21:25:55 | major_works | Toni: It doesn't compile for me. Errors in the audio driver. |
| 21:26:25 | Toni1 | major_works: what kind of error? |
| 21:26:52 | Toni1 | The build server did compile fine on the sansa |
| 21:27:30 | major_works | Toni1: Hold on... I can't get it to copy over out of Cygwin... I'm fairly new to this stuff. |
| 21:28:01 | Toni1 | ah, ok |
| 21:28:26 | Llorean | major_works: Your SVN is definitely clean, and a clean build directory? |
| 21:28:36 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c: In function 'audiohw_enable_output': |
| 21:28:36 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c:151: error: syntax error before '<<' token |
| 21:28:36 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c: At top level: |
| 21:28:36 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK major_works |
| 21:28:36 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c:141: warning: unused parameter 'enable' |
| 21:28:37 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c:162: error: initializer element is not constant |
| 21:28:37 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:28:37 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c:163: error: syntax error before '>>' token |
| 21:28:39 | major_works | drivers/audio/as3514.c:176: error: syntax error before numeric constant |
| 21:28:48 | Llorean | Please follow our channel guidelines |
| 21:28:57 | major_works | Llorean: Sorry about the guidelines. |
| 21:29:11 | Llorean | Have you read them yet, if not please do now. |
| 21:29:14 | major_works | Llorean: No, I suppose it's not clean in that I have various patches in it. |
| 21:30:48 | major_works | OK, I'll drop out now and read the guidelines again. I was just trying to answer Toni's question. |
| 21:30:48 | major_works | that was only some of the error messages that came up, btw. |
| 21:30:49 | Zagor | I'm temporarily disabling access to the tracker |
| 21:34:59 | major_works | Toni1: Question: Are the changes you just made dependent upon your earlier audio patch, or do these supersede that patch? |
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| 21:36:14 | Toni1 | major_works: No, theses changes are independent, so that patch is still necessary |
| 21:37:00 | major_works | Toni1: I don't know what else I may have had in my local SVN that would have caused a build to fail. |
| 21:37:25 | major_works | Toni1: I'll have to experiment and see what else might have caused it. Thanks for your help. |
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| 21:38:25 | Toni1 | major_works: A more simple solution to the channel swapping is: setting IISFIFO_CFG |= 0x22; in i2s-pp.c |
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| 21:39:19 | major_works | Toni1: OK, perhaps I'll try that. I do also have Christian's audio-API patch in my build, and that modifies as3514.h. Maybe that's the problem. |
| 21:39:20 | Toni1 | (instead of IISFIFO_CFG |= 0x33;) |
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| 21:42:15 | * | petur got free wifi at his hotel :D |
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| 21:43:07 | petur | need emergency linux help: my h300 won mount anymore, claims fat issues. How to check/fix on linux? |
| 21:43:37 | Nico_P | petur: I had this issue and never found a way around it |
| 21:43:49 | Nico_P | you can try chkdsk.vfat though |
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| 21:45:54 | Nico_P | petur: for me the fix was a new HD from iriver |
| 21:46:08 | petur | oh thank you very much :/ |
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| 21:46:50 | Nico_P | really sorry. mine did mount correctly in windows though |
| 21:47:01 | Nico_P | oh |
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| 22:04:11 | donutman25 | hey guys |
| 22:04:21 | donutman25 | wats wrong with flyspray |
| 22:04:25 | donutman25 | ? |
| 22:04:40 | Zagor | 21:30 <Zagor> I'm temporarily disabling access to the tracker |
| 22:04:56 | donutman25 | ok |
| 22:05:01 | donutman25 | why? |
| 22:05:02 | Zagor | there's a performance problem I want to fix |
| 22:05:18 | Zagor | otherwise it bogs down the server |
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| 22:05:28 | donutman25 | ok cool thanks |
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| 22:08:16 | Zagor | petur: welcome home :-) |
| 22:08:30 | petur | eh? |
| 22:09:21 | Zagor | I assumed you're back home now? |
| 22:09:31 | petur | i'm in bromma |
| 22:09:31 | bluebrother | petur, on linux it's fsck.vfat |
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| 22:09:51 | petur | wait, i'm on the i-phone |
| 22:09:51 | Zagor | petur: aha |
| 22:10:19 | amiconn | Zagor: Did you notice the disk space problem on www as well? |
| 22:10:47 | Zagor | disk space? no |
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| 22:11:08 | Zagor | I have a ram/cpu problem though |
| 22:11:14 | amiconn | Check the ipod color build in the table... |
| 22:11:20 | Zagor | the new flyspray is doing something weird |
| 22:11:47 | amiconn | yeehah! |
| 22:12:05 | * | amiconn just saw the rockbox logo on the G5.5/80GB :-D |
| 22:12:18 | Nico_P | nice news |
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| 22:13:33 | Zagor | amiconn: that's weird. /tmp on that server is 7 GB... |
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| 22:13:58 | bluebrother | oh, amiconn got an 80G? |
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| 22:14:19 | amiconn | bluebrother: Linus lent me his. I'll send it back when done |
| 22:14:27 | a1titude | Is devcon over? |
| 22:14:32 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 22:14:37 | petur | no |
| 22:14:41 | petur | :) |
| 22:14:47 | bluebrother | sadly :'-( |
| 22:14:55 | a1titude | err, way to confuse me! =P |
| 22:15:02 | midkay | amiconn: rockbox up and running on that 80G? :) |
| 22:15:06 | alienbiker99 | oh wow nice |
| 22:15:20 | bluebrother | devcon was really fun. Even without me participating personally. |
| 22:15:38 | amiconn | Writing does not yet work (i.e. isn't implemented yet), but reading should be working in a minute or so. The bootloader already does. |
| 22:15:39 | bluebrother | (at least it was fun for me, I hope it was for the others too ;-) |
| 22:16:03 | a1titude | yeah, I was watching it from here, and I actually enjoyed beeing on the irc and watching the webcam |
| 22:16:08 | midkay | amiconn: that's great news. :) |
| 22:16:24 | * | amiconn can browse files :) |
| 22:16:32 | bluebrother | how come it's going that fast? Different approach? |
| 22:16:36 | a1titude | So 80GB is actually in the near future? |
| 22:16:43 | amiconn | Now it panicked because it was unable to update the fat |
| 22:17:20 | * | amiconn copies some music |
| 22:18:43 | a1titude | thats really good news |
| 22:18:56 | midkay | amiconn: do you think write support will be much work? |
| 22:19:11 | a1titude | maby my 80GB won't be cramped by the official firmware for much longer.... ? |
| 22:19:33 | amiconn | midkay: Nope, should be straightforward |
| 22:20:31 | midkay | amiconn: very cool. i see on the devcon page that the fix would result in some "inefficiencies". anything major? |
| 22:21:06 | amiconn | I don't expect a major impact |
| 22:21:55 | midkay | hmm. it'd be interesting to see some benchmarks or comparisons. |
| 22:22:05 | Llorean | bluebrother: Instead of a full fix, they're doing a fix just for the 80gb builds, iiuc. |
| 22:22:28 | pearldiver | markun nice commits! |
| 22:22:39 | a1titude | nice |
| 22:23:15 | bluebrother | ah, the adjust ata instead of fat approach |
| 22:23:22 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:23:26 | * | bluebrother just went re-reading the devcon page. |
| 22:23:42 | bluebrother | doing too much things at the same time isn't a good idea :( |
| 22:25:06 | a1titude | so, what are the advantages or supporting all 64MB (of ram?) on the iPod Videos? |
| 22:26:50 | midkay | twice the memory = far more room to buffer music = better battery life. |
| 22:27:15 | element_g | only if you play continuously though |
| 22:27:16 | scorche | unless you skip often |
| 22:27:27 | element_g | hi everyone btw |
| 22:27:29 | a1titude | thats good news! :) |
| 22:27:31 | a1titude | hi |
| 22:27:57 | midkay | well, not necessarily continuously - you can fit many tracks in that buffer. skipping an odd one won't make a big difference. but right, it isn't useful if you're all over the place. |
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| 22:28:18 | a1titude | cool. still more batterylife is good news |
| 22:28:19 | amiconn | Hmm, interesting |
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| 22:28:24 | Sivart0 | bleh |
| 22:28:28 | Sivart0 | hello people |
| 22:28:31 | a1titude | hi |
| 22:28:33 | amiconn | The debug menu says the G5.5/80 has a PP5022C |
| 22:28:42 | element_g | anyone know how to add a new page to the wiki so that it ends up with the address |
| 22:28:42 | element_g | twiki/bin/view/Main/new page name here |
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| 22:29:22 | a1titude | amiconn: is that bad news? |
| 22:29:23 | Akiyuki | Anyone ever use ipodwizard? |
| 22:29:24 | midkay | element_g: just put the new page name there, and when it says "page not found" press create or whatever. |
| 22:29:30 | Sivart0 | Akiyuki: i have |
| 22:29:32 | Llorean | Akiyuki: This channel is about Rockbox |
| 22:29:36 | a1titude | I've used ipodwizzard before |
| 22:29:37 | Llorean | Please take questions about other software elsewhere |
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| 22:29:48 | a1titude | but this isn't the place to be asking about it |
| 22:29:55 | element_g | midkay: thanks |
| 22:30:09 | Domonoky | better use rbutil, :-) |
| 22:30:17 | amiconn | a1titude: No, just interesting information for devs |
| 22:30:18 | Akiyuki | Sivart0, It detected the device, but most of the options are grayed out |
| 22:30:45 | * | amiconn keeps plasma.rock running while trying to get writing support added |
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| 22:30:55 | Sivart0 | i havent used it in a long time |
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| 22:31:06 | amiconn | Music doesn't play yet because the fat driver panics everytime it tries to save settings |
| 22:31:09 | Llorean | Sivart0, Akiyuki: This is not the right place |
| 22:31:27 | Sivart0 | i know |
| 22:31:29 | Sivart0 | i'm just saying |
| 22:31:42 | a1titude | U need to open firmware from the ipod, besides that goto http://www.ipodwizard.net/ |
| 22:31:50 | a1titude | sorry, |
| 22:32:09 | Llorean | Yes, I'm sure you're sorry, but apparently not sorry enough to actually try to follow the rules and simply use PMs |
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| 22:39:57 | a1titude | Is there any reason for the ipod 60GB and the 80GB to have more memory than the 30GB's? Sorry for the odd question i just can't understand it. |
| 22:43:07 | n1s | a1titude: maybe apple keeps the entire itunes database in memory at the same time, and you can fit a whole lot of aac's on an 80 gb... |
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| 22:43:51 | Rincewind | hey |
| 22:44:06 | Zagor | the tracker is opened again |
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| 22:44:43 | Rincewind | I just read the devcon2007 wiki page and I was totally knocked off my chair when I read that my rec button patch is to be accepted! |
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| 22:45:03 | badsheepy | i wonder then, if uploading a whole load of tiny aac files would make the db too big for ram |
| 22:45:17 | Rincewind | If there is anything I can do to improve it, please tell me! |
| 22:45:38 | bluebrother | oh, there has been quite some discussion here ... |
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| 22:46:28 | a1titude | badsheepy: this is still thearetical, it might not load the databace into ram, right? |
| 22:46:31 | obo_ | quick question: I'd like to start hacking rockbox code. I have decent C and some asm knowledge. Can anyone suggest a starting point. Pref. something that I can play with on the simulator, as my e200's jack is fcked :( |
| 22:46:41 | Rincewind | and the Left no cancel in menus is great, too. |
| 22:46:57 | badsheepy | yeah, just the first thing that popped to mind when you said that was how to break it :) |
| 22:46:58 | amiconn | Ladies and gentleme, we have sound! :) |
| 22:46:58 | Thundercloud | There hasn't actually been an actual "release" for a while now has there? |
| 22:47:16 | Thundercloud | Nevertheless, I haven't used rockbox in like half a year, but I do enjoy seeing progress in it. |
| 22:47:27 | Thundercloud | I'll be taking a course on embedded systems next year, so it's quite interesting to see all this. |
| 22:47:29 | Domonoky | obo_: i would suggest starting with a plugin.. |
| 22:47:31 | Zagor | whee, graphs! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6574/depends |
| 22:47:40 | a1titude | badsheepy: yeah, maby, but I bet apple has the iPod stable enough to somehow comeup with a workaround. |
| 22:47:41 | petur | amiconn: woohoo |
| 22:47:46 | Domonoky | amiconn: whooo :-) |
| 22:47:50 | amiconn | That means, there is write support. |
| 22:48:03 | bluebrother | amiconn, cool. Awaiting the announcement email :D |
| 22:48:08 | amiconn | Now to put it under some heavy testing... |
| 22:48:26 | obo_ | Domonoky: Thanks. Is there a need for anything in particular? |
| 22:48:38 | amiconn | I dunno whether it's worth a gentleme mail, because it's not a completely new target... |
| 22:48:42 | n1s | Zagor: nice :-) |
| 22:48:46 | amiconn | Blah |
| 22:48:56 | * | amiconn already lost the n from gentlemen 2 times |
| 22:48:59 | Domonoky | obo_: take a look at the feature request, or make a litte game :-) |
| 22:49:08 | petur | amiconn: I think you should |
| 22:49:19 | Thundercloud | amiconn: What are you working on BTW? |
| 22:49:33 | amiconn | ipod 5.5G / 80GB support |
| 22:49:37 | Thundercloud | Ahhh excellent |
| 22:49:38 | Domonoky | amiconn: continue the tradition, we need a mail :-) |
| 22:49:44 | Rincewind | wow |
| 22:49:48 | Thundercloud | That's the one with the really fucking stupid write system isn't it? |
| 22:50:15 | Zagor | amiconn: it is a very much awaited target, so I think a mail is in order |
| 22:50:19 | bluebrother | it is. |
| 22:50:35 | bluebrother | Zagor, flyspray is getting nice :) |
| 22:51:24 | Zagor | bluebrother: yeah |
| 22:52:35 | bluebrother | so, may I ask what the problem was? |
| 22:53:46 | obo | obo_: hmm, slightly confusing on the nick front... |
| 22:53:54 | XavierGr | grats amiconn, good news indeed, I think a mail would be best suited to follow the tradidion |
| 22:53:56 | Zagor | bluebrother: I |
| 22:54:33 | obo_ | sorry other obo. I've been using this nick for a while but In all fairness you were here first. |
| 22:54:45 | Zagor | 'm not sure what specifically solved the graph issue/errors. but there is a bug that can bog down mysql completely, which I now avoid triggering. and that helps a lot of other things too... |
| 22:54:49 | a1titude | when do you think the 80GB will be avalable for the public? |
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| 22:55:32 | obo | zobo: :) |
| 22:55:43 | zobo | obo, better ? |
| 22:56:08 | obo | totally your choice, but fine by me... |
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| 22:56:35 | bluebrother | a bug in Flyspray? Didn't they tell on their website the release was quite good? :o |
| 22:59:15 | XavierGr | Zagor: maybe you know this, but have you checked the attachment picture? It seems cropped. |
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| 22:59:40 | Zagor | XavierGr: attachment picture? |
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| 23:00:13 | Zagor | XavierGr: oh, you mean the paperclip? |
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| 23:01:37 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Is it certain the e200 doesn't have a line? (specifically, through the dock port like later iPods?) |
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| 23:03:57 | XavierGr | Zagor: yes |
| 23:03:58 | jhMikeS | Llorean: not certain at all, but it's not there now |
| 23:04:23 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Yeah, that makes sense, I was just curious if someone had worked it out. |
| 23:04:41 | jhMikeS | I think I goofed the waverecord when fixing it cause it'll include the FM Radio count won't it? :\ |
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| 23:05:09 | * | jhMikeS better rethink it real quick |
| 23:05:13 | Zagor | XavierGr: I think it's meant to look like that. it would be a lot of work to have the image shown outside the box too. |
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| 23:09:42 | * | amiconn needs to install the font package |
| 23:10:03 | amiconn | Although, the default font _is_ readable on the ipod video, it's just a bit tiny... |
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| 23:10:25 | bluebrother | I think that is what the most Ipod users say ... it's tiny |
| 23:11:07 | Hammer89 | Have any changes been made in the past week or two that will require installing a newer bootloader? |
| 23:11:32 | bluebrother | Hammer89, what player? Ipod? |
| 23:11:37 | Hammer89 | Sansa |
| 23:12:34 | barrywardell | no, the sansa bootloader has not changed since 23 March |
| 23:12:41 | Hammer89 | Okay... thanks :) |
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| 23:13:31 | Hammer89 | I thought I saw something in the chage-log a few days back... must've been seeing things |
| 23:13:35 | Hammer89 | *change-log |
| 23:13:46 | Llorean | Hammer89: Changes are being made to it, but it's not ready for use right now |
| 23:13:58 | Hammer89 | Okay :) |
| 23:14:23 | Llorean | When there's a new one, the sansapatcher file will be updated |
| 23:14:26 | Llorean | So you can just check it. |
| 23:14:29 | amiconn | bluebrother: The small font is actually quite useful for debugging. Lots of space for hexdumping... |
| 23:14:31 | Hammer89 | *nods* |
| 23:15:00 | bluebrother | amiconn, I agree. That's what is quite annoying with small screens: too less space :) |
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| 23:23:30 | pearldiver | whats the link to the rockbox logo in decent res? |
| 23:25:26 | Bagder | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/www/tshirt-contest/rockbox3540.jpg?view=markup&sortby=rev&pathrev=6268 |
| 23:25:36 | petur | heya Bagder :) |
| 23:25:51 | petur | nice hotel you put us in, free wifi :) |
| 23:25:57 | n1s | or svg http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/frontpage/rockboxlogo.svg?revision=12307 |
| 23:26:12 | Bagder | petur: cool to see you have it working as well! |
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| 23:26:54 | pearldiver | Bagder danker |
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| 23:27:52 | amiconn | Bagder, Zagor: Unfortunately www.rockbox.org now also uses the broken debian binutils... |
| 23:28:00 | Bagder | ah right |
| 23:28:05 | * | Bagder sighs |
| 23:28:05 | bluebrother | there is also a png in the manual tree ;-) |
| 23:28:20 | Zagor | ow, i forgot about that. crap. |
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| 23:29:24 | DerPapst | g'day |
| 23:30:24 | scorche | is there an update to the recommended binutils, or was it just the new server? |
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| 23:31:05 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Can you make sure your changes don't break wavrecord? And there are warnings for a couple of pp targets (looks like the ones w/o recording support) |
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| 23:34:09 | * | petur finally extracts his testbuild on his h300 (faint drumroll in the background) |
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| 23:34:31 | Pimpdaddypayne | Where are the windows installers? |
| 23:35:07 | Zagor | scorche: I ran an upgrade on the server, which pulled down the latest binutils. which contains the bug. |
| 23:35:41 | scorche | ah...alright...just making sure nothing slipped by me =) |
| 23:35:47 | bluebrother | petur, what are you trying to do? |
| 23:36:04 | petur | usbotg |
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| 23:36:44 | * | petur sees a short flash of the led of his usb stick :) |
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| 23:36:54 | petur | 1 step further.... |
| 23:37:33 | * | Domonoky whooos to petur :-) |
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| 23:38:26 | Rincewind | Zagor: I found a few bugs with flyspray. 1. ' and " are shown with \ 2. I got warnings when I submitted a file |
| 23:38:49 | Zagor | Rincewind: 1 should be fixed now. |
| 23:39:02 | Zagor | please add a comment in #7194 about 2 |
| 23:39:20 | Rincewind | If you want, I can paste you the errors |
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| 23:39:36 | Zagor | do that in #7194. otherwise I will forget/misplace it |
| 23:39:46 | Rincewind | ok |
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| 23:40:47 | cables | Is it currently safe to use Rockbox on an iPod Mini 2G? |
| 23:41:05 | Domonoky | cables: jeah, ist save |
| 23:41:20 | cables | Domonoky, ?? |
| 23:41:45 | Domonoky | its safe :-) |
| 23:41:49 | DerPapst | !! |
| 23:42:11 | cables | Domonoky, that was a heal of a typo :) |
| 23:42:36 | Rincewind | Zagor: done. No warnings this time, It seems to have something to do with the attachement |
| 23:42:38 | Domonoky | :-) sorry, but english isnt my first language |
| 23:43:07 | cables | Domonoky, that's okay |
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| 23:43:23 | | Quit cables (Client Quit) |
| 23:43:45 | barrywardell | Zagor: any idea what's up with the last two attachments to FS #7134? |
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| 23:45:37 | Zagor | barrywardell: hmm, no |
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| 23:46:06 | barrywardell | should I just add it to #7194? |
| 23:46:24 | Zagor | barrywardell: do so |
| 23:48:50 | Zagor | Rincewind: the file you attached, was it a patch file? |
| 23:49:05 | bluebrother | Zagor, tried to add a comment to the fs entry −− "Error #3: Repeated action, redirecting to main page" |
| 23:49:30 | Zagor | bluebrother: to which entry? |
| 23:49:44 | bluebrother | FS #7194 |
| 23:50:10 | pearldiver | hmm does anyone have this logo by any chance? |
| 23:50:11 | pearldiver | http://rbh300.chendo.net/h300expFULL.png |
| 23:50:43 | Zagor | bluebrother: might you have doubleclicked by accident? (wild guess) |
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| 23:51:03 | * | amiconn should probably get rid of the lame write-through caching before starting to stress test the code |
| 23:51:12 | bluebrother | no. Even retried that action, same error |
| 23:51:39 | DerPapst | poor code... |
| 23:52:24 | Zagor | bluebrother: standard firefox? |
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| 23:52:39 | bluebrother | yup. FF1.5 |
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| 23:52:51 | bluebrother | should I try opera / konqueror? |
| 23:53:02 | amiconn | 1.5?? |
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| 23:53:26 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I'm checking up on stuff, no worries |
| 23:54:12 | bluebrother | Firefox 1.5.0.10 to be exact. |
| 23:54:13 | Zagor | bluebrother: I can't imagine FF 1.5 not working... |
| 23:54:16 | jhMikeS | it was really just a naming conflict issue |
| 23:55:08 | bluebrother | is there some spam protection thing? Rincewind commented shortly ago, and it's likely he's coming from the same proxy |
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| 23:55:29 | Zagor | aha. i'll ask. |
| 23:55:53 | Rincewind | hm? |
| 23:56:10 | bluebrother | hmm. Now tried opera, worked. |
| 23:56:37 | Rincewind | Zagor: sorry, I was watching a film. Yes, it was a patch file |
| 23:56:54 | Zagor | Rincewind: ok |
| 23:57:12 | bluebrother | strange. /me goes restarting FF |
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| 23:57:25 | Rincewind | bluebrother: I am not using the uni proxy at the moment |
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| 23:58:36 | DerPapst | brb (or maybe not) |
| 23:58:38 | | Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") |
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