| 00:00:01 | Alldogship | Go is in french |
| 00:03:57 | Buschel | Hi, short question: is it correct to disable <#define MAX_PHYS_SECTOR_SIZE 1024> in config-ipodvideo, if I've got a 30GB-model? This line was added for the new 80GB-port |
| 00:05:26 | Llorean | Buschel: Rockbox runs correctly on both 30, 60, and 80GB iPods, you shouldn't be making any changes to the source to make sure it works on a specific one. |
| 00:06:25 | amiconn | Soap: Any news on the codec test set track? |
| 00:06:52 | saratoga3 | can anyone here answer a fixed point math question for me? |
| 00:06:57 | Buschel | Llorean: ok |
| 00:07:20 | Soap | I am having a hard time finding something which is _both_ using the full spectrum and passes the high-bitrate lame-v2 test. |
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| 00:08:07 | stripwax | bah, stupid client |
| 00:08:23 | stripwax | Soap - what's the lame v2 test? |
| 00:08:28 | Soap | I'm thinking it is a lost cause. Audio with a large amount of energy in the higher frequencies is getting clipped by the psycoacoustic model I think, and producing lower bitrate mp3s, whereas tracks with most their energy down low are consuming more bits. |
| 00:08:58 | Soap | stripwax: we had discussed using the bitrate of a track encoded with lame -V2 as a test of "complexity" |
| 00:09:35 | amiconn | −−preset standard uses -V2 afaik? |
| 00:09:37 | stripwax | ah, i see. |
| 00:09:58 | Buschel | Soap: talking of test signals? high frequency parts of the signal will need only few SMR, whereas low freqs need much higher SMR. |
| 00:10:25 | Buschel | hi-freq signal parts are mostly noisy |
| 00:10:33 | Soap | amiconn: yes, APS has been mapped to -V2 |
| 00:10:50 | Soap | Buschel: the goal was to use actual music. |
| 00:10:59 | amiconn | I have quite some tracks which reach or exceed 240kbps when encoded with −−preset standard |
| 00:11:22 | amiconn | Unfortunately we can't just use some arbitrary music because of copyright |
| 00:12:03 | Bagder | well, if we'd just use a minute or so somewhere in the middle of a song I doubt that will cause us problems |
| 00:12:04 | saratoga3 | amiconn: we can use any copyrighted music under 30 seconds in length I believe |
| 00:12:06 | Soap | same here - I've been blindly downloading .wavs and .flacs from archive.org's creative-commons collection - encoding them V2, and looking at the spectrogram (pre MP3) |
| 00:12:53 | Soap | Bagder: that was a question I was curious about. HydrogenAudio seems to run under the assumption all their test files (30 seconds in length IIRC) fall under fair use. |
| 00:13:10 | preglow | saratoga3: shoot |
| 00:13:27 | Soap | I was hopeful to find creative-commons content and avoid any risk, though. |
| 00:13:45 | XavierGr | isn't many clapping hands considered to be "complex" for mp3 etc encoders |
| 00:13:47 | Bagder | Soap: I haven't read about a specific length but fair use should apply at some point, but yeah, creative-commons take away the gray areas |
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| 00:14:07 | Soap | XavierGr: that brings up my second concern... |
| 00:14:11 | preglow | saratoga3: well, what do you expect the code to do |
| 00:14:22 | XavierGr | Soap: which is? |
| 00:14:30 | Soap | If we use MP3 as the benchmark of "complexity" - we have loaded the codec test with bias. |
| 00:14:48 | Buschel | mp3 will need excessive amount of bits if the input signal is transient |
| 00:14:57 | Soap | vorbis and mp3 differ on what kinds of samples they devote bitrate to. |
| 00:15:54 | XavierGr | all I know is that I would have trouble to benchmark with a song that I dislike :P (or is it just an decoding benchmark?) |
| 00:16:20 | Soap | decoding |
| 00:16:29 | Alldogship | is any of you good enough with disk reformating on linux? |
| 00:16:29 | saratoga3 | preglow: I expect it to spit out a fixed64 value |
| 00:16:35 | Soap | not a quality test - a decodingcodec-performance test |
| 00:16:43 | saratoga3 | however, a fixed32 x fixed64 can't be fixed64 right? |
| 00:16:53 | saratoga3 | since the multiply will always shift the decimal point |
| 00:16:57 | preglow | saratoga3: oh, like that, i think so, but i don't really know for sure. that's more of a c question than a fixed point question |
| 00:17:26 | XavierGr | then why not just pick randomly one of the non-copyrighted ones? |
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| 00:17:56 | saratoga3 | preglow: I mean in terms of the math, I don't see how he can just return a fixed 64 after doing a fixed multiply, wouldn't the result be unnormalized? |
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| 00:18:19 | preglow | saratoga3: it depends, if y is an integer, for example, it would work |
| 00:18:26 | preglow | saratoga3: but it all depends on the fixed point format used |
| 00:18:39 | XavierGr | as amiconn once said, we could use the "iRiver, catch the digital flow!" theme. :P |
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| 00:18:45 | Soap | XavierGr: we do want something to strain the codecs... |
| 00:18:49 | preglow | saratoga3: if y uses any fractional values, then yes, it will need shifting, or it will be very unnormalized |
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| 00:20:54 | XavierGr | Soap: but different encoders might encode something more easy than others |
| 00:22:07 | XavierGr | so if you have to choose music for a test track then just choose a genre that is considered to be less "encoder-friendly" than others |
| 00:22:23 | preglow | saratoga3: but like i said, it depends on how it's used. if you're multiplying a fixed point number by an integer, which is equivalent to a fixed point number with no fractional part, then you need no shifting |
| 00:22:42 | Soap | brb |
| 00:22:52 | Alldogship | anyone can help me with a formating problem? |
| 00:23:13 | Alldogship | (last time I ask for today because I don't want to spam) |
| 00:23:43 | Soap | Alldogship: reformatting your DAP? |
| 00:24:11 | pie-chan | hey, Soap |
| 00:24:13 | Alldogship | Soap: reformatting my ipod. what's a DAP? |
| 00:24:13 | PaulJam | Soap: wouldn't it be best to take some seconds of several song with different music styles and mergr them into one file as test track to get some kind of performance for average usage? |
| 00:24:15 | pie-chan | is there an APE codec? |
| 00:24:17 | pie-chan | i didn't see one |
| 00:24:21 | pie-chan | i only saw flac wavpack and alac |
| 00:24:23 | Soap | Alldogship: DigitalAudioPlayer. |
| 00:25:12 | Soap | PaulJam: that is something I had been considering as well - wanted to run that idea past amiconn and linuxstb_ since they voiced "interest" in the chosen track. |
| 00:25:30 | Soap | PaulJam: I do like the idea of a "meta-track" myself. |
| 00:26:03 | XavierGr | yeah sounds like a good idea |
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| 00:26:33 | Llorean | pie-chan: Rockbox doesn't support, and is somewhat unlikely to support, Ape |
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| 00:26:54 | Soap | APE eats CPU like Walt Disney eats Cuban children. |
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| 00:27:06 | Alldogship | Soap: that. I tried to reformat my gen5.5 ipod 2048 bytes sector in many ways but always failed |
| 00:27:24 | Soap | (gotta go, be back later) |
| 00:28:29 | Alldogship | I'll put it on the forum in Apple install. have a nice day |
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| 00:33:55 | pie-chan | i could have sworn that |
| 00:33:59 | pie-chan | i played ape at one point |
| 00:34:00 | pie-chan | on rockbox ~_~ |
| 00:34:19 | pie-chan | Soap, why does that remind me of some robot chicken episode i saw |
| 00:34:20 | pie-chan | XD |
| 00:36:05 | saratoga3 | stupid make question: why do I get this when I try to do a 2 processor make? |
| 00:36:08 | saratoga3 | "make[1]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule." |
| 00:44:48 | preglow | shruggers |
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| 00:50:11 | sneakums | saratoga3: check out node "MAKE Variable" in the GNU Make manual; it seems to be something to do with calling make recursively |
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| 01:18:03 | Ikarus | Anyone know of the state of a port to the 2nd gen iPod Nano (or wants to suggest an alternative player with the same feature set) |
| 01:18:31 | n1s | Ikarus: what features are you loking for? |
| 01:19:15 | Ikarus | n1s: Just the basics, I need playback of MP3, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, around 8GB memory, compact device |
| 01:19:29 | Llorean | So, the Sansa e280 is a good idea. |
| 01:19:31 | Nico_P | Ikarus: looks like you want a sansa |
| 01:19:52 | * | n1s was going to say sansa too |
| 01:20:05 | * | Llorean doesn't see "poorly labelled buttons and an input method that doesn't offer tactile feedback for unsighted users" a particularly compelling feature set anyway. |
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| 01:29:36 | * | amiconn thinks the sansa isn't exactly compact |
| 01:29:46 | amiconn | It's quite big and heavy for a flash player |
| 01:30:07 | Llorean | It is our most compact ~8gb player though, isn't it? |
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| 01:30:41 | amiconn | Probably, but hopefully not for long :P |
| 01:31:07 | * | amiconn just needs to find a vendor where he can actually buy an 8GB MMC |
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| 01:32:06 | * | amiconn knows the sansa has an extension slot as well |
| 01:32:24 | amiconn | ...unlike the nanos, which is a big plus imho |
| 01:33:05 | amiconn | The radio is another pro, as long as you don't get an european model... |
| 01:33:22 | amiconn | s/an/a/ |
| 01:33:26 | Llorean | Yeah, I'm quite fond of the Sansa actually |
| 01:33:31 | Llorean | It's like a smaller H120. |
| 01:33:38 | Llorean | It's not "compact" though. |
| 01:33:55 | Llorean | The giant screen and somewhat kludgy wheel certainly don't help its size |
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| 01:35:38 | Ikarus | amiconn: Radio is a con, I don't want to listen to radio |
| 01:36:11 | amiconn | Then get a european model... |
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| 01:36:46 | Llorean | Or just don't use it.. |
| 01:36:56 | any1 | how do i install a new theme? |
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| 01:39:32 | Crende | i am soooo frustrated rightt nowww..my parents wont get me a new mp3 player so I'm stuck with my gigabeat that wont turn on unless plugged into the charger |
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| 01:39:45 | Crende | anyone know any thing i could use at home to try and fix that issue? |
| 01:39:54 | Ikarus | Hrm, the Sansa does look like it is made out of flimsy plastic |
| 01:39:59 | Ikarus | wonder if they have it in store here |
| 01:41:42 | Llorean | Ikarus: The Sansa is a hell of a lot sturdier than the iPod Nano 1st gen or the 5G iPods. |
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| 01:42:33 | Llorean | Crende: You'd have to determine what the problem is. It could be the battery switch is bad, or the battery is unconnected for some reason, or something has shorted. |
| 01:43:36 | Crende | Well, it shows that the battery iss charging |
| 01:43:57 | Crende | like it shows the little plug sign on the screen, but the plug sign never turns green |
| 01:44:02 | Crende | and I've opened it up |
| 01:44:14 | Crende | and detached and reattached the battery |
| 01:44:16 | Crende | but no change |
| 01:47:06 | saratoga3 | Crende: shot in the dark, but maybe you need a new battery? |
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| 01:48:09 | Crende | i've thought about that..but I'm not sure where to buy a new one |
| 01:48:43 | saratoga3 | Crende: ebay |
| 01:48:49 | Crende | mmkay |
| 01:49:16 | Crende | I was just gonna scrap it because the headphone jack was partially connecting w/ my headphones, but i guess I wont |
| 01:50:08 | Crende | um, do you know how to reattach the face plat? |
| 01:50:12 | Crende | plate |
| 01:50:16 | Crende | mine keeps popping off |
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| 02:32:24 | toffe82 | Crende: take off the plate completely and try to reinstall it by sliding it in position, check if the top clip is still good |
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| 02:35:41 | Crende | kk |
| 02:37:31 | Crende | do you know how to fix headphone jack issues? like if its partially connecting? |
| 02:38:15 | toffe82 | what do you mean : the jack fully inserted, you have only one channel ? |
| 02:38:36 | pie-chan | do you use an ipod case? |
| 02:39:32 | Crende | no |
| 02:39:45 | Crende | I think the jack fully inserted |
| 02:39:58 | Crende | because when I plug in my headphones, I have to shift it around to get a clear sound |
| 02:40:39 | Soap | Have you eliminated the headphones themselves as the connection fault? |
| 02:41:58 | toffe82 | do you fill like if the jack socket is moving ? |
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| 02:44:38 | Crende | i'm not sure if it's moving |
| 02:44:48 | Crende | but I do know its not the headphone's fault |
| 02:45:01 | Soap | which player? |
| 02:45:07 | Crende | toshiba gigabeat |
| 02:45:09 | Crende | f10 |
| 02:45:21 | toffe82 | perhaps try a contac cleaner |
| 02:45:31 | toffe82 | contact ^^ |
| 02:45:41 | Crende | ok..how does that work |
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| 02:46:21 | pie-chan | mmm |
| 02:46:29 | pie-chan | you put rubbing alcohol on a cue tip |
| 02:46:32 | pie-chan | and rub it on in |
| 02:46:34 | toffe82 | you spay the product on the jack , insert it in the socket and move it several times to clean the contact |
| 02:46:36 | pie-chan | and it cleans the contacts |
| 02:47:01 | * | Soap leaves to take a cold shower |
| 02:47:07 | toffe82 | or alcohol :) |
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| 02:50:45 | Crende | I accidently closed the screen |
| 02:51:17 | toffe82 | ?? |
| 02:51:53 | Crende | soo I didn't see what was typed last |
| 02:52:00 | Crende | liek after when I said f10 |
| 02:52:56 | Crende | nvm I checked the log |
| 02:53:21 | Crende | so, you could rub rubbing achohol onto the jack then move it around inside the headphone jack>? |
| 02:53:54 | toffe82 | yes |
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| 03:03:24 | pie-chan | omg |
| 03:03:25 | pie-chan | <3 rockbox |
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| 03:03:26 | pie-chan | :D |
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| 03:09:41 | Crende | anyone watching realworld vegas? |
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| 03:10:23 | toffe82 | why ? |
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| 04:26:32 | jackfusion | Hi all |
| 04:26:32 | Crende | just wonderin |
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| 04:28:05 | jackfusion | I want just rockbox on my ipod with out the orignal firmware on there is that possible? |
| 04:28:12 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah |
| 04:28:17 | BHSPitMonkey | it is |
| 04:28:41 | BHSPitMonkey | do you have rockbox installed already |
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| 04:29:12 | jackfusion | I have it extracted to the ipod. |
| 04:30:10 | jackfusion | and I copied rockbox.ipod to the root directory. |
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| 04:32:29 | jackfusion | when I go and unhook my ipod it tells me that I have to connect it to my computer and use itunes to restore it why is that? |
| 04:36:28 | saratoga3 | jackfusion: that sounds like an Apple firmware message, not a rockbox one |
| 04:36:36 | saratoga3 | what did you do exactly |
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| 04:39:05 | jackfusion | I have couply wiped the drive and formatted it windows 32, downloaded and extracted .rock to the ipod then copied rockbox.ipod the the root directory. |
| 04:39:19 | saratoga3 | did you install the bootloader? |
| 04:40:12 | jackfusion | I am trying to make rockbox the main without the orignal firmware there. |
| 04:40:20 | badsheepy | you need the original firmware for usb |
| 04:40:32 | saratoga3 | jackfusion: regardless, did you install the bootloader? |
| 04:40:44 | saratoga3 | the ipod cannot boot without a bootloader |
| 04:40:45 | n1s | badsheepy: he can use the diskmode that's in flash |
| 04:40:45 | jackfusion | just checking |
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| 04:45:27 | rushfan | Can you load the default ipod firmware while rockbox is installed? |
| 04:45:45 | jackfusion | no |
| 04:46:10 | Llorean | Yes |
| 04:46:25 | rushfan | Llorean: how? (I figured the answer was yes I dont know how |
| 04:46:40 | Llorean | Turn off the device, turn on the device, and immediately after turning it on, turn on the hold switch |
| 04:46:42 | rushfan | And btw, could there be a reason that half of my WPS screens dont load? |
| 04:46:46 | rushfan | k |
| 04:47:14 | Llorean | A lot of WPSes aren't valid, and Rockbox has become stricter about invalid WPSes. Usually there's some small bits of the WPS's code that needs fixed |
| 04:47:22 | rushfan | oh ok |
| 04:47:36 | rushfan | Ive noticed none of the WPS screens that support album art work |
| 04:47:38 | jackfusion | when I run the ipodpatcher in linux it says there is no ipod |
| 04:47:58 | Llorean | jackfusion: Which iPodPatcher version are you using? |
| 04:48:16 | saratoga3 | jackfusion: i believe if you format your ipod, it screws up detection of it |
| 04:48:19 | jackfusion | the most recent |
| 04:48:22 | saratoga3 | though that was supposed to have been fixed |
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| 04:48:47 | Llorean | jackfusion: What version number? "The most recent" tells me you think it's the most recent, but that doesn't tell me for sure it really is. When did you download it? |
| 04:49:06 | Llorean | It's quite often that someone says the most recent, and it turns out not to be. |
| 04:49:56 | jackfusion | I went to the manual online and downloaded the ipodpatcher |
| 04:50:31 | jackfusion | is the download from the manual online the most recent |
| 04:50:41 | Llorean | It depends on when you downloaded it |
| 04:50:45 | Llorean | And whether a proxy interferes. |
| 04:50:58 | jackfusion | 30 mins ago |
| 04:51:00 | Llorean | Which is why I asked for a version number. |
| 04:51:16 | Llorean | If you downloaded it today it's most likely the most recent version, unless caching has interfered. |
| 04:51:32 | saratoga3 | what version number does it give you? |
| 04:51:38 | saratoga3 | might as well be sure |
| 04:51:51 | jackfusion | I have 1.0 with v1.1 bootloader |
| 04:51:59 | Llorean | Alright |
| 04:52:05 | Llorean | Now what does the partition table on your iPod look like? |
| 04:52:21 | Llorean | Paste it into a pastebin, like pastebin.ca |
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| 05:00:54 | jackfusion | can't get the table because when I cfdisk sdb1 or cfdisk /media/sdb1 it says it can not find the device |
| 05:01:17 | Llorean | sdb1 is a specific partition |
| 05:01:18 | Llorean | Try sdb |
| 05:01:29 | jackfusion | ok |
| 05:01:45 | jackfusion | no luck |
| 05:02:15 | Llorean | Well, if you can't find the device like that, it might explain why ipodpatcher can't find it either. |
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| 05:08:35 | jackfusion | I am using PCLinuxOS right not windows to make things easier should I just connect my ipod to a windows machine and reput the orignal firmware and bootloader on itwith the linux boot loader to make things easier? |
| 05:08:52 | Llorean | I'm not sure what you're asking? |
| 05:09:00 | Llorean | You can just use the windows version of iPodPatcher, sure. |
| 05:09:21 | Llorean | But I don't know what you mean by "reput the original firmware and bootloader on it with the linux boot loader" |
| 05:10:17 | jackfusion | put the orginal firmware back on the ipod to fix things. |
| 05:10:24 | jackfusion | brb |
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| 05:28:14 | avenged_one | Ok, the last post in the thread on the e200r forum is from a while ago so I'd like to ask, Has there been any progress, even slightly, on the R Series Sansa port? |
| 05:28:48 | Llorean | Nobody's really working on it. |
| 05:28:57 | Llorean | At least, nobody who tells us about it. |
| 05:29:06 | Llorean | It requires some effort from people who actually have e200Rs |
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| 05:36:15 | avenged_one | Well, I own one, I would be willing to test if it will help progress be made. |
| 05:36:24 | Llorean | It's not testing that's needed |
| 05:36:39 | Llorean | Someone who owns one needs to figure out how to load alternate firmware |
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| 05:54:59 | JdGordon | does the rec screen work for anyone? |
| 05:55:08 | JdGordon | seems to keep crashing for me |
| 05:58:02 | * | JdGordon summons austriancoder! |
| 05:58:31 | JdGordon | well it was worth a shot anyway :p |
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| 06:03:10 | JdGordon | Llorean: ping? |
| 06:03:23 | Llorean | Que? |
| 06:03:44 | JdGordon | have you seen the rec dir patch? |
| 06:04:09 | Llorean | Yeah, but I haven't tried it. |
| 06:04:13 | Llorean | I almost never use recording. |
| 06:04:24 | JdGordon | ok :) |
| 06:04:29 | Llorean | I do like using the context menu to set the recording folder, and having a clear option that resets it to the root. |
| 06:04:34 | JdGordon | neither, but i did just test it and it works |
| 06:04:43 | Llorean | As the method I personally would prefer for using it, if I ever did. Heh. |
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| 06:17:36 | jackfusion | I am back |
| 06:17:52 | jackfusion | hi all again |
| 06:29:53 | jackfusion | thank u all for ur help and have a nice evening. |
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| 08:10:18 | amiconn | JdGordon: There is a bug in the multivolume code that was uncovered by the recording dir patch |
| 08:10:40 | amiconn | (multivolume + hotswap, that is) |
| 08:11:40 | amiconn | If the hotswap volume isn't there, it is possible to create a dir with this name, even though this name is forbidden by not only FAT standards, as it contains < and > |
| 08:12:28 | amiconn | This dir can't be deleted both from rockbox (because it thinks it's a volume) nor from the pc (because of the < and >) |
| 08:13:02 | JdGordon | ok |
| 08:13:29 | JdGordon | yeah, I tihnk i remember the rockbox code not checking the new filname properly for illegal chars |
| 08:13:53 | amiconn | It does check, but obviously not everything |
| 08:15:15 | JdGordon | static int fat_checkname(const unsigned char* newname) |
| 08:15:19 | JdGordon | { |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | /* More sanity checks are probably needed */ |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | if ( newname[strlen(newname) - 1] == '.' ) { |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | return -1; |
| 08:15:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | } |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | return 0; |
| 08:15:23 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 08:15:23 | JdGordon | } |
| 08:15:27 | JdGordon | really good error checking there.. :D |
| 08:15:39 | amiconn | uh? |
| 08:15:51 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:15:51 | * | amiconn is puzzled |
| 08:16:02 | amiconn | Iirc there were more checks... |
| 08:16:10 | JdGordon | that is the sum total of the name checking, isnt it? |
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| 08:17:18 | JdGordon | hmm, maybe not |
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| 08:17:27 | JdGordon | whats this char2dos func? |
| 08:17:55 | JdGordon | switch on hex values without comments :( |
| 08:18:45 | [mbm] | loaded rockbox on a 5.5 ipod .. runs better than ipodlinux ;) |
| 08:19:53 | JdGordon | no, char2dos definatly should b removing the < and >'s |
| 08:20:14 | amiconn | That's for longname->shortname |
| 08:20:25 | amiconn | But < and > aren't even allowed in longnames |
| 08:20:51 | amiconn | And the code should fail on creating this dir regardless of the < and > |
| 08:21:15 | amiconn | That's what's missing for multivolume |
| 08:21:21 | amiconn | ...i.e. there are 2 bugs |
| 08:22:03 | JdGordon | why shuold the code fail regardless of the < and >? without them its a valid name |
| 08:22:21 | amiconn | One is that the fat code doesn't check for illegal chars (all targets). The other is that it doesn't check for the reserved multivolume name |
| 08:22:23 | * | [mbm] still trying to figure out the multiple forks, each with their own set of patches like album art |
| 08:23:27 | amiconn | The multivolume code should probably fails with EEXIST when trying to create <MMC1> and the card is plugged, and a different error otherwise |
| 08:24:45 | [mbm] | seems that addicentally hitting the record button renders the ipod unable to play back until rebooted |
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| 08:25:55 | Llorean | Yeah, recording on iPods is still very experimental |
| 08:27:09 | [mbm] | trying to disable that menu option so I don't hit it again |
| 08:29:25 | [mbm] | will be really fun if anyone ever figures out the tv out on the ipod photo/video models |
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| 08:34:22 | Feral_Kid | So do one keep the Ipod 4g from going in to drive mode while charging a battery via USB? |
| 08:34:59 | Feral_Kid | I meant to say how does one keep the Ipod 4g from going in to drive mode while charging a battery via USB? |
| 08:35:29 | Llorean | Hold menu while plugging it in (while the player is already turned on and in Rockbox) |
| 08:38:02 | JdGordon | amiconn: except its <MMC%d> in the code... |
| 08:38:33 | JdGordon | slight annoyance, but easy to work around |
| 08:39:14 | amiconn | Of course it's %d. Flexible code... |
| 08:39:23 | JdGordon | hang on... if its not plugged, there is no reason to fail the create (except for the <>) because the mmc could then be MMC2 |
| 08:39:30 | JdGordon | not really a big deal |
| 08:39:36 | Feral_Kid | Llorean> Hmmm... That doesn't seem to work for me... Even if I am playing a song, a few seconds after I plug in the cable, the ipod reboots and goes into diskmode.... |
| 08:39:39 | amiconn | In fact the check for illegal chars in the fat code should be sufficient |
| 08:39:46 | JdGordon | yep |
| 08:40:03 | amiconn | There is a reason to fail.... the < and > are illegal by fat standards, and reserved in rockbox |
| 08:40:39 | JdGordon | then it shuold fail with bad filename.. not EEXIST |
| 08:41:10 | amiconn | That will cause problems |
| 08:41:11 | Llorean | Feral_Kid: This seems to happen occasionally for some people. It's really not perfect yet. |
| 08:41:15 | Feral_Kid | Llorean> I wonder if that be because I am using one of the unsupported builds... |
| 08:41:31 | Feral_Kid | Llorean> Ah... Thanks for the info... |
| 08:41:43 | amiconn | When the MMC is actually there, not failing with EEXIST would make the recording code fail when it's set to record in /<MMC1> |
| 08:41:55 | amiconn | Hmm, or maybe not... |
| 08:42:17 | amiconn | I think it checks for existing dir first, and only tries to create it if it's not there |
| 08:42:35 | JdGordon | thats how I would expect it to work |
| 08:43:35 | JdGordon | btw, if we do get the external cards using the volume name as the mount point, setting that as the record path will be a pita |
| 08:44:04 | amiconn | nope |
| 08:44:38 | JdGordon | nope? |
| 08:44:44 | amiconn | As per the latest idea, the volume name would be for display in the browser only. Internally we would still use the <VOLn> names |
| 08:45:25 | JdGordon | the name the browser displays is the name internally.... |
| 08:45:33 | amiconn | Yes, currently |
| 08:45:38 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 08:58:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: im just compiling and testing my correct filename checkin code.. if it works shuold I cmmit? |
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| 09:00:01 | * | amiconn thinks file system code needs good review + testing |
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| 09:00:19 | amiconn | If there's a bug, the user's data might be at risk |
| 09:00:49 | * | pie-chan licks amiconn |
| 09:00:57 | JdGordon | yay :) didnt let me create <folder |
| 09:01:40 | amiconn | And of course the check should be compact, and disallow all the forbidden chars |
| 09:01:51 | scorche | whatever happened to out previous licker? |
| 09:01:58 | scorche | forgot his name... |
| 09:02:16 | * | amiconn fetches the fat specs |
| 09:02:35 | pie-chan | that was me |
| 09:02:37 | * | pie-chan licks scorche |
| 09:02:56 | scorche | what was your nick back then then? |
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| 09:03:08 | pie-chan | i forget XD |
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| 09:04:00 | amiconn | hmm |
| 09:04:08 | amiconn | < and > are legal as per FAT specs... |
| 09:04:28 | * | JdGordon back in 15 |
| 09:05:04 | amiconn | ignore that... |
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| 09:11:30 | amiconn | Here are the characters forbidden even in longnames: "*/:<>?\| and everything in the control char range (ascci code < 32) |
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| 09:25:34 | JdGordon | so <> are ilegal? |
| 09:26:18 | JdGordon | quick test with the sd card in... I couldnt mnually create a <folder> but <sdcard1> was created, so it wrks.. |
| 09:26:19 | amiconn | yup |
| 09:26:22 | JdGordon | ill put the patch on FS |
| 09:27:12 | JdGordon | I didnt actually add any code, just moved the check that was already there around |
| 09:27:17 | amiconn | It shouldn't be possible to create <sdcard1> either |
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| 09:28:07 | JdGordon | no, I meant the browser showed it when the card was inserted... not that it is possible to manually create |
| 09:28:19 | amiconn | ok |
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| 09:29:27 | JdGordon | amiconn: FS #7222 |
| 09:31:35 | * | JdGordon voices his frustratio at the vkeyboard on the sansa! |
| 09:32:14 | Llorean | JdGordon: Because of the directions keys placement? |
| 09:32:51 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 09:33:11 | JdGordon | the players' vkeyboard would wrk so much better on the sansa than the current one |
| 09:39:24 | daurnimator | hey |
| 09:39:41 | daurnimator | JdGordon: would you happen to have a laptop with a floppy drive? |
| 09:39:59 | daurnimator | or a 2.5"->3.5" hdd adaptor |
| 09:40:12 | JdGordon | I have the 2nd for sure.. possibly the first |
| 09:40:16 | JdGordon | go to pm... |
| 09:47:50 | JdGordon | is there a way to check if a folder exists without doin the full dir read? |
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| 09:50:42 | * | JdGordon is not sure how to change the rec filename if the requested folder doesnt exist |
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| 09:56:10 | amiconn | JdGordon: Just try to open the folder... |
| 09:56:23 | amiconn | I mean for checking whether it exists |
| 09:56:44 | amiconn | The dir code does a complete scan of course |
| 09:56:45 | Bagder | btw, on June 15th www.rockbox.org will change IP address and get increased bandwidth |
| 09:57:11 | scorche | new connection for contactor? |
| 09:57:16 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:57:31 | scorche | how fast? |
| 09:57:33 | Bagder | 10mbit from another operator |
| 09:57:47 | scorche | symmetrical? |
| 09:57:50 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:57:54 | scorche | =] |
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| 09:59:58 | Bagder | so our company is moving from one class C network to another |
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| 10:01:29 | scorche | so a friend of mine got tasked by his work to make an ipod do a few new tricks, including automatically connecting the work servers, and a few other things...i told him to just use rockbox as a base....he said he would rather not touch it and will, instead, program a whole OS from scratch in C#... |
| 10:02:02 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 10:02:16 | Bagder | that will 1) take a massive amount of time or 2) fail |
| 10:02:25 | JdGordon | haha |
| 10:02:27 | scorche | and it is in c#... |
| 10:02:39 | JdGordon | hmm... /me missread... |
| 10:02:46 | JdGordon | I read that or as an "and" |
| 10:02:50 | scorche | well, will be |
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| 10:03:17 | Bagder | well for c# to run, he need to port a runtime to it first |
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| 10:03:42 | scorche | it will have a lot of overhead too, no? |
| 10:03:48 | Bagder | oh yes |
| 10:03:58 | Bagder | it'll crawl, when he completes this project in 2013 |
| 10:03:58 | scorche | and he intends to have videos played as well... |
| 10:04:30 | Bagder | I guess the "easiest" way to do c# would to run ipl and port mono to it |
| 10:05:05 | scorche | i was mentioning to him about how we have issues with C, and for him to attempt video play as well as other things in C#.. |
| 10:05:21 | JdGordon | does this logic look correct? it shuold only bother with the user path if it knows its not wiritng to the externa card http://pastebin.ca/513441 |
| 10:05:23 | scorche | well, you get teh picture...just thought you could use a laugh today =) |
| 10:05:47 | JdGordon | scorche: maybe he could do with some help from the zune-linux guys? |
| 10:05:56 | scorche | haha...possibly |
| 10:06:03 | Bagder | hehe, yeah they seem to be in the same league |
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| 10:07:00 | Bagder | 91.191.140.131 |
| 10:07:05 | Bagder | is the new address btw |
| 10:07:14 | scorche | when will this take place? |
| 10:07:18 | Bagder | june 15th |
| 10:07:32 | Bagder | that's devcon west date, right? ;-/ |
| 10:07:40 | scorche | yeah =/ |
| 10:07:46 | JdGordon | nice sabotage attempt |
| 10:07:47 | scorche | well, first day |
| 10:07:51 | scorche | haha |
| 10:07:51 | Bagder | we can arrange some extra nice chaos |
| 10:08:07 | scorche | fine...forget rockbox then...i will just bring the vodka |
| 10:08:14 | Bagder | :-) |
| 10:08:23 | scorche | =) |
| 10:08:29 | petur | oh... finlandia wodka? |
| 10:08:47 | * | scorche wants to make a few kamikazes |
| 10:15:18 | Bagder | btw, I noticed Joe Born of Neuros is gonna talk at LRL |
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| 10:19:23 | Bagder | so, there will be a www2.rockbox.org with the new IP address that should be possible to use as soon as the network is connected |
| 10:19:32 | Bagder | during the transition time when www goes to the new IP |
| 10:25:59 | scorche | i still need to figure out how i shall do the webcam... |
| 10:26:15 | Bagder | you mean how to publish the images? |
| 10:26:58 | scorche | i might go get one of those nifty webcams that have a webserver built in, or whatever they do... |
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| 10:27:50 | Bagder | if not, I'm willing to give you means to put the images on the rockbox dl server |
| 10:28:23 | scorche | that would be nice if it doesnt work out...i dont know how much load those can take as well |
| 10:28:40 | Bagder | in both our devcons, we've resorted to do the uploads using our own custom scripts |
| 10:28:51 | Bagder | the webcam softwares are usually all crap |
| 10:30:09 | scorche | yes, but i dont know how decent the ones that advertise being able to view the cam from anywhere/network cameras are |
| 10:30:21 | Bagder | me neither |
| 10:30:22 | scorche | then again, i dont doubt that would be crap too |
| 10:30:34 | scorche | might as well try it and return it if it doesnt work |
| 10:30:47 | Bagder | I figure there must be cam softwares that aren't crap, but I haven't yet seen any |
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| 10:32:02 | amiconn | Imo this year's webcam software used at devcon was even worse than that of last year's webcam |
| 10:32:09 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:32:22 | petur | if the cam is video-for-windows compliant you could use anything to post the images (lots of freeware floating around) |
| 10:32:27 | scorche | i would like to get an actual stream going, but i dont know how much load we would be taking, and i wouldnt be surprised if the throttle the connection |
| 10:32:33 | amiconn | The logitech software didn't even allow to put images in a specified folder... so we had to use an open source alternative |
| 10:33:16 | amiconn | petur: Yes, the software we used should work with all VfM compatible cams |
| 10:34:03 | amiconn | It can do ftp upload... but for more complex scenarios (e.g. scp) it still needs an external upload script |
| 10:34:15 | amiconn | s/VfM/VfW/ |
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| 10:45:36 | Mikeobin | Hello! |
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| 10:45:57 | Mikeobin | can i ask something ? |
| 10:46:09 | [mbm] | you already did |
| 10:46:18 | Mikeobin | thanks |
| 10:46:26 | Mikeobin | i have already install rockbox |
| 10:46:31 | Mikeobin | to my ipod 5g |
| 10:46:42 | [mbm] | you're allowed to ask one question per tay, come back tomorrow *grin* |
| 10:46:54 | Mikeobin | ;) |
| 10:47:05 | Mikeobin | so, thems can't changed |
| 10:47:09 | Mikeobin | why? |
| 10:47:22 | Mikeobin | sorry for my english |
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| 10:47:27 | Mikeobin | i'm greek man |
| 10:48:20 | * | [mbm] has only been running rockbox for less than a day .. themes seem to work fine |
| 10:48:29 | daurnimator | anyone here had experience with hdd passwords? |
| 10:48:34 | [mbm] | using a 80G 5.5 gen here |
| 10:49:07 | midkay | Mikeobin: what exactly is the problem? do they not show up, or do they not load correctly, or? |
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| 10:49:48 | Mikeobin | sorry, i can understand, you say to change a theme must have run the rockbox for couple of days less? |
| 10:50:09 | [mbm] | I said it works fine for me on my new ipod |
| 10:50:34 | Mikeobin | mid kay: i choose a theme but the player does not change skin |
| 10:50:37 | Bagder | daurnimator: you mean ATA-level? |
| 10:51:07 | Mikeobin | the only thing that changed is background |
| 10:51:18 | Mikeobin | when i select a them |
| 10:51:25 | midkay | Mikeobin: so what doesn't change? the font, i guess? did you install the font pack? |
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| 10:51:42 | Mikeobin | wait.. |
| 10:52:23 | [mbm] | themes usually come as a zip file containing several directories which have to be placed in .rockbock |
| 10:52:47 | [mbm] | if you don't install all the files the theme won't work correctly |
| 10:52:56 | daurnimator | Bagder: yes |
| 10:53:27 | daurnimator | as it happens, http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html is the only page on the whole internet that partially describes anything like what I hae |
| 10:53:29 | PaulJam | Mikeobin: if it loads the default WPS it could be that the WPS file is broken. the WPS pharser got more stricht on errors. |
| 10:53:29 | daurnimator | *have |
| 10:53:53 | daurnimator | as i understand. My hdd is in High Security mode. |
| 10:53:57 | daurnimator | I know the password |
| 10:54:00 | Bagder | yeah, people tend to come here and ask for hdd password just because of that... |
| 10:54:01 | daurnimator | I just want to remove it |
| 10:54:09 | badsheepy | atapwd will do it |
| 10:54:16 | Mikeobin | a theme contains a folder with bmp files |
| 10:54:19 | daurnimator | i tried atapwd, it didn't find the hdd |
| 10:54:45 | badsheepy | maybe its broken then |
| 10:55:02 | daurnimator | na, it works fine |
| 10:55:06 | daurnimator | I run vista on it |
| 10:55:08 | daurnimator | no problems |
| 10:55:29 | Mikeobin | i copy it to rockbox \wps right? |
| 10:55:30 | daurnimator | just... i need the password off it in the next 5 hours |
| 10:55:37 | midkay | Mikeobin: no, not at all. it's what [mbm] said it was. it should be several folders. |
| 10:55:44 | midkay | or a single .rockbox folder. |
| 10:55:45 | badsheepy | did you run atapwd from a boot disk |
| 10:55:50 | midkay | with several folders inside it. |
| 10:56:04 | daurnimator | yes |
| 10:56:12 | badsheepy | hrmpf |
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| 10:57:13 | Mikeobin | midkay: in witch folder can i copy the files? |
| 10:57:18 | Mikeobin | bmp files? |
| 10:57:30 | midkay | Mikeobin: it's not a theme if it's just bmp files. you can't just copy them and have it work. |
| 10:57:58 | Mikeobin | and the players skin |
| 10:58:13 | Mikeobin | i mean when the song play shows a skin |
| 10:58:26 | Mikeobin | this skin how can i change? |
| 10:59:12 | [mbm] | Mikeobin: if the zip file has a .rockbox then extrac it to the device, if it doesn't have a .rockbox then extract it to the .rockbox of the device |
| 10:59:28 | Mikeobin | yes |
| 10:59:43 | Mikeobin | i exctract it as you said |
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| 11:00:01 | [mbm] | it should recreate the directories from the zip file |
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| 11:01:29 | daurnimator | badsheepy: any other ideas/ |
| 11:01:43 | Mikeobin | after copying files to ipod i choose from my ipod a theme ok? |
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| 11:02:33 | Mikeobin | and my ipod change the font and the background already |
| 11:03:08 | Mikeobin | but the problem is... the players skin does not changed yet |
| 11:03:18 | Mikeobin | why?? |
| 11:04:10 | daurnimator | badsheepy/bagder: when I run atapwd, it comes up with the cd drive as PM (primary master??) when it isn't. PS, SM & SS are all empty |
| 11:04:15 | daurnimator | hdd doesn't show |
| 11:04:24 | stripwax | Mikeobin - maybe the theme you downloaded doesn't work. try a different theme? |
| 11:04:36 | Mikeobin | yes |
| 11:04:44 | Mikeobin | i try with all blackglass |
| 11:05:24 | badsheepy | is this on a laptop daurnimator ? |
| 11:05:24 | Mikeobin | i try with phkTAPE |
| 11:05:26 | stripwax | Mikeobin - are you using the "official" rockbox build or an "unofficial" build like Evilg, senab, etc |
| 11:05:31 | daurnimator | badsheepy: yes |
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| 11:05:40 | JdGordon | hey pixelma |
| 11:05:44 | stripwax | Mikeobin - because blackglass requires patches that are not part of the official rockbox build iirc. |
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| 11:06:01 | Mikeobin | i download it from http://www.rockbox.org |
| 11:06:16 | stripwax | Mikeobin - did it say it needed a "special" build? |
| 11:06:16 | pixelma | JdGordon: hey - what's up? |
| 11:06:33 | JdGordon | nm, when you get a chance, can you try out the new patch I just put up? |
| 11:06:38 | JdGordon | it shuold stop your mmc problem |
| 11:07:13 | pixelma | I have to get rid of the second <MMC1> folder first :P |
| 11:07:23 | stripwax | Mikeobin - yes, phkTAPE should work ok |
| 11:07:27 | * | JdGordon just hought that it shuold probably splash "Recording to /" if the user dir isnt accessable |
| 11:07:40 | pixelma | JdGordon: where can I find the patch? |
| 11:07:48 | JdGordon | pixelma: you want a custom build to be able to delete it from rockbox? |
| 11:07:50 | amiconn | If the specified user dir doesn't exist and cannot be recreated, recording should fail imo |
| 11:08:00 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7201?getfile=13995 |
| 11:08:02 | * | [mbm] wonders why the official builds don't include the patches |
| 11:08:10 | amiconn | JdGordon: Nah, we'll delete it with some disk editor magic later today |
| 11:08:17 | JdGordon | k |
| 11:08:20 | stripwax | mbm - which patches? |
| 11:08:42 | [mbm] | stripwax: things like album art and resizing used by some themes |
| 11:09:02 | JdGordon | from my quick look at the rec screen code, I dont know how to check if the file couldnt be opened... so I just work of the drectory name and asume that if its not on the mc then it is always writable |
| 11:09:13 | stripwax | mbm - well.. because the rockbox devs disagree with the way those patches have been implemented and because they conflict with the way the devs want to extend the ui. |
| 11:09:22 | [mbm] | hmm |
| 11:09:46 | [mbm] | just a pain that I can't use some themes with the official build |
| 11:09:58 | [mbm] | and there aren't too many unofficial builds for the 5.5 yet |
| 11:10:06 | JdGordon | noone is forcing you to use the offical build thoigh.... |
| 11:10:17 | stripwax | mbm - or because they have bugs or are incomplete in some way. if you want to use themes that require those patches, you can use a patched build. or build your own :) doesn't evilg have all the patches you need? |
| 11:10:20 | [mbm] | (and yes, I can compile but I'm lazy) |
| 11:10:21 | amiconn | JdGordon: The recording screen handles the file issues... just the directory is special |
| 11:11:07 | [mbm] | stripwax: evilg was missing the bmp resize on the 5.5 build |
| 11:11:22 | pixelma | [mbm]: unless you have a 80GB 5.5g you should be fine with the custom builds |
| 11:11:32 | JdGordon | isnt it a safe bet that the only directory which cannot be created is the mmc one? which would only happen if its not inseerted? |
| 11:11:34 | * | [mbm] has an 80G 5.5 |
| 11:12:11 | amiconn | JdGordon: No it's not. There is a ton of reasons why a directory cannot be created, also on the internal storage |
| 11:12:20 | [mbm] | only a matter of time before the custom builds catch up I suppose |
| 11:12:25 | JdGordon | bah, ok then |
| 11:12:30 | [mbm] | just an annoyance |
| 11:12:33 | stripwax | mbm - evilg works on 80g, do you need bmpresize? |
| 11:12:43 | amiconn | Disk full, directory too long, file system inconsistency, whatever |
| 11:12:52 | [mbm] | stripwax: not getting any album art |
| 11:13:03 | Mikeobin | mbm: i must downnload a special build? to work thems? |
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| 11:13:18 | [mbm] | /ignore Mikeobin |
| 11:13:19 | JdGordon | right, but unless the config file was edited manually, the only way to set the rec dir is choosing an already existing directory |
| 11:13:20 | [mbm] | oops. |
| 11:13:29 | stripwax | ;-p |
| 11:13:48 | amiconn | JdGordon: And who says that a directory once existing will exist for eternity? |
| 11:13:55 | stripwax | Mikeobin - no, not quite. please read what I said earlier. phkTAPE theme should work on the official rockbox build. Let us know if it does not. |
| 11:14:01 | JdGordon | amiconn: ok you win :p |
| 11:14:30 | * | JdGordon was really just looking for a wa to stay out of the worst of the recording screen code |
| 11:14:40 | amiconn | The config file can be months old.. or someone could have edited it... the disk could have been cleaned up etc etc |
| 11:14:46 | stripwax | mbm - hm, what size are your bmps? |
| 11:15:12 | [mbm] | stripwax: hmm good question, most of them were from the itunes automatic album art |
| 11:15:50 | amiconn | Imho the recording screen should try to create the lowest-level dir if it's not there. If that fails, just fail with a splash |
| 11:16:02 | stripwax | I resize all my albumart to 100x100. But.. fullsize albumart images would be handy for this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7218 ;-) |
| 11:16:03 | amiconn | It already does that in case the selected dir is /recordings |
| 11:16:19 | * | stripwax wonders what size itunes albumart comes out at |
| 11:16:30 | amiconn | For current dir of course no check is necessary |
| 11:17:20 | JdGordon | I still think it shhuold not fail, but write to / instead |
| 11:17:31 | amiconn | I don't think trying to recreate a whole missing tree is necessary (.e.g if recording dir is set to /recordings/concerts and both levels are missing, just fail) |
| 11:17:45 | amiconn | I don't think so |
| 11:17:50 | [mbm] | stripwax: I have no intentions of manually resizing since it would destroy the originals and would probably be a pain in the ass to do |
| 11:18:23 | stripwax | mbm true |
| 11:18:34 | JdGordon | I barely ever record, but I know that if I set a record and left in a hury only to come back later and see it didnt I would be pissed |
| 11:18:41 | stripwax | anyway, i'm sure evilg will add bmpresize patch to his build. my local build uses it, seems to work ok |
| 11:18:50 | amiconn | (1) A couple of reasons why creating a dir fails would also make recording to / fail (2) Rockbox should never silently change user-set preferences in the background. |
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| 11:19:13 | amiconn | We've been through that; it was the reason why the silent treble/bass reduction on high volume was removed |
| 11:19:15 | [mbm] | stripwax: if it comes to it I may start doing my own builds and tossing them on openwrt.org |
| 11:19:20 | JdGordon | I disagre... its the same as displaying the default wps if the user one was borked.. |
| 11:19:31 | amiconn | That's a different thing |
| 11:19:50 | JdGordon | no its not... the output still is the same, just in a different place |
| 11:19:54 | stripwax | mbm - which patches do you *need* need? I can schlep you a build with albumart, bmpresize + scrolling margins |
| 11:20:02 | JdGordon | the treble/bass option changes the output |
| 11:20:11 | amiconn | It's not the same... |
| 11:20:17 | [mbm] | stripwax: I'll take as much eyecandy as I can get ;) |
| 11:20:20 | * | amiconn doesn't want to go hunting recordings |
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| 11:20:31 | JdGordon | no hunting... its either i your dir, or / |
| 11:20:42 | JdGordon | s/i/in |
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| 11:21:09 | amiconn | And it's not that you would set up a recording, leave and then notice it didn't record...because it would immediately splash the message that the recording dir could not be created *when entering the recording screen* |
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| 11:21:20 | amiconn | In that case you wouldn't be able to start a recording.... |
| 11:21:29 | pixelma | maybe put it in /recordings (and create the dir if necessary) as it does now? |
| 11:21:40 | amiconn | That could also fail.... |
| 11:21:56 | amiconn | And it's not true that changing the dir doesn't change the output |
| 11:22:01 | pixelma | what happens atm if it fails? |
| 11:22:10 | PaulJam | I agree with JdGordon here. i mean if you want to record something, the most important part ist the fact that you are recording. you'll always be able to find the recorded file afterwards, especially if it is in the root dir. |
| 11:22:14 | amiconn | It splashes and exists |
| 11:22:17 | stripwax | mbm - lemme know if this helps you out at all: www.beermex.com/rockbox.zip it's a 64mb video build with those patches |
| 11:22:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:22:52 | amiconn | Imagine wavr ecording on an Ondio, and the dir on a 4GB MMC could not be created... it would start recording on / which is internal flash... only 128MB |
| 11:23:01 | amiconn | Nice capacity for wav recording (!) |
| 11:23:45 | [mbm] | stripwax: ok, I'll download it now and try it out later |
| 11:23:53 | JdGordon | thats a very special case though |
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| 11:24:06 | amiconn | pixelma: There's a very easy way to see what it does: Delete an existing /recordings dir, and create an (empty) file called 'recordings' |
| 11:24:29 | amiconn | Then enter the recording screen. It cannot create the dir because a file with the same name already exists |
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| 11:29:11 | webguest65 | hi, for some reason there doesn't seem to be a h120 build available on the current build page. is it now the same as the h100/h115 builds? |
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| 11:31:06 | Mikeobin | gays i have 13497 version and phtape dosent work!!! can anyone tell me the steps to install a theme? |
| 11:31:10 | Mikeobin | thanks a lot!!! |
| 11:31:47 | scorche | Bagder? |
| 11:32:06 | pixelma | webguest65: I don't think so - afaik those have smaller RAM. Looks like an issue with a new buildserver |
| 11:32:50 | scorche | webguest65: there should be an h120 build there...hence why i paged Bagder |
| 11:32:54 | stripwax | gays? |
| 11:33:04 | scorche | "says" i assume |
| 11:33:06 | stripwax | Mikeobin - ok try this |
| 11:33:38 | webguest65 | so is there any other way to get a current build? (other than building it myself which I can't do from this computer) |
| 11:33:51 | stripwax | Mikeobin - http://www.rockbox-themes.org/data/320x240x16/Arctic_Desert.zip |
| 11:33:57 | daurnimator | so... |
| 11:34:03 | daurnimator | are there any alternatives to atapwd? |
| 11:34:04 | scorche | webguest65: wait a bit? |
| 11:34:08 | PaulJam | concerning amiconns example with recording on ondio and MMC, wouldn't it be possible to solve this by showing a splash "Can't create directory. Recording to /" so the user knows it isn't recording to the MMC card? |
| 11:34:30 | stripwax | Mikeobin - unzip that zip file directly into the root of your mp3 player (so the .rockbox file overwrites the .rockbox file on your mp3 player) |
| 11:34:38 | webguest65 | twiddling thumbs... |
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| 11:34:59 | stripwax | Mikeobin - then select that theme on your mp3 player. Let us know if it works. |
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| 11:36:59 | * | stripwax waits .. time passes .. |
| 11:37:12 | scorche | stripwax: doesnt it usually? |
| 11:37:21 | stripwax | heh |
| 11:38:54 | [mbm] | the longer I have to wait the less time passes |
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| 11:43:03 | Lear | webguest65: You can always grab a daily build. Not quite as up to date, but... |
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| 11:46:57 | JdGordon | anyone object to me closing FS #7223? its a nice idea but not really possible with the current code |
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| 11:52:08 | pixelma | PaulJam, JdGordon: IMO there should at least be a splash to show that there's a problem - when entering the recording screen and maybe when you start the recording. And in my eyes it's not an Ondio only issue, there can be other reasons why rockbox can't create a certain directory (not enough diskspace, too long path or whatever) |
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| 11:52:53 | JdGordon | for sure there shhuold e a splash.. the argument is weather it shhuold record or not :) |
| 11:53:36 | JdGordon | if path is too long then it makes sense to rec to / |
| 11:53:46 | JdGordon | if there is n disk space then the rec would fail anyway |
| 11:54:01 | sr | hi. I am looking for info on how to play video on my rockbox |
| 11:54:16 | sr | .mpg are really slow |
| 11:54:27 | * | JdGordon put a poll on the forums for this |
| 11:54:35 | sr | I can't found any clear info on the wiki |
| 11:54:48 | Mikeobin | stripwax : i'm there |
| 11:54:53 | Mikeobin | stripwax : i'm here |
| 11:54:54 | Mikeobin | sorry |
| 11:55:07 | Mikeobin | for the delay |
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| 11:56:03 | stripwax | sr - transcode to a lower bitrate perhaps? |
| 11:56:10 | stripwax | Mikeobin - so ..did it work? |
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| 11:56:44 | stripwax | sr - any of this info help? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 11:56:55 | stripwax | (e.g. limit fps, skip framse) |
| 11:56:58 | stripwax | frames |
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| 12:01:21 | sr | stripwax, that not really easy :-/ |
| 12:02:26 | sr | I'll try, thanks |
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| 12:23:28 | JdGordon | is the tagnavi_custom.config file read instead or tagnavi.config? or its adds to it? |
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| 12:24:17 | stripwax | did i miss anything? |
| 12:25:07 | sr | stripwax, it works! thx |
| 12:25:20 | sr | even if this is annoying |
| 12:25:34 | stripwax | sr - cool. what's annoying? |
| 12:25:38 | stripwax | Mikeobin, how about you? |
| 12:26:11 | stripwax | is there a rockbox constant for native lcd bit depth in bytes? i.e. 2 iff LCD_DEPTH==16 or 1 otherwise? |
| 12:28:40 | sr | stripwax, to have to convert the video |
| 12:29:28 | stripwax | oh, right. it's common for all mp3 players (except dedicated video players) to transcode the video to lower bitrates (I think itunes even does this for ipods automatically) |
| 12:29:29 | sr | but, I'll write a shell command, something like "mvid2rb" which convert and then mv the file |
| 12:29:33 | stripwax | cool |
| 12:31:04 | sr | w00t! tango icon set is really really great! |
| 12:31:10 | sr | I like it so much |
| 12:31:29 | * | sr just updated his rockbox to the last build |
| 12:31:50 | sr | rockbox is really a wonderful thing :-) |
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| 12:32:37 | JdGordon | Slasheri: ping? |
| 12:32:56 | Slasheri | JdGordon: pong |
| 12:33:33 | JdGordon | how does the tagnavi_custom.config file work? is it a replacemtn for tagnavi.config? or can you use it to extend it? |
| 12:33:46 | JdGordon | I cant seem to find much inf on it |
| 12:41:02 | Mikeobin | ok.your theme already works. but phtape theme doesn't work! |
| 12:43:34 | stripwax | Mikeobin - (it's not my theme). Probably, phTAPE needs updating. Rockbox has been improved recently and as a result some themes don't work anymore (those themes have errors) |
| 12:51:46 | stripwax | Mikeobin - which phkTAPE theme did you install? it worked for me.. |
| 12:53:24 | sr | mhh, is there a backdrops: property? |
| 12:53:50 | stripwax | how do you mean, "property"? |
| 12:54:36 | stripwax | sr - a theme can set a backdrop using the "backdrop: /.rockbox/backdrops/blah.bmp" tag in the theme file |
| 12:56:13 | sr | mhhh, I doesn't want to load my backdrop :-/ |
| 12:56:47 | stripwax | sr - does the file exist, does it have the right dimensions |
| 12:56:53 | sr | yes |
| 12:57:10 | sr | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IconSets/Bluebg.bmp |
| 12:57:12 | stripwax | sr - can you run the rockbox simulator ? if so it should show an error message if it can't load the backdrop.. |
| 12:57:36 | * | sr is looking for the simulator on the wiki |
| 12:57:45 | stripwax | sr - what device do you have |
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| 12:58:04 | sr | iAUDIO X5 |
| 12:59:12 | stripwax | sr - your bitmap is 176x132 pixels. This iaudio x5 has a screen size of 160x128 .. |
| 12:59:25 | sr | arf |
| 12:59:35 | stripwax | which is why i asked, does it have the right dimensions ... |
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| 13:03:31 | sr | graoar! |
| 13:03:41 | sr | still doesn't want to load it! |
| 13:07:54 | sr | what the heck! |
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| 13:08:34 | stripwax | sr - is it just the backdrop that doesn't load or some other part of the theme? can you set the backdrop explicitly (from the display settings menu)? |
| 13:10:26 | sr | in which menu? |
| 13:10:43 | sr | settings->general->display->main lcd->? |
| 13:12:00 | stripwax | sr - my mistake. no, navigate to the bmp file using the file list, and then from the context menu "Set As Backdrop" |
| 13:12:02 | PaulJam | in the display settings you can only clear the bechdrop. you set it from the context menu if the bitmap |
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| 13:14:41 | stripwax | JdGordon - thanks for the followup on my sliding puzzle patch. Taking out the AA dependency has another advantage: with the current AA patch the mp3entry only includes the AA path if the WPS has albumart . Just getting the pathname means the sliding puzzle will work not matter what WPS you have |
| 13:16:24 | sr | stripwax, it works now. thx! |
| 13:17:03 | stripwax | sr - so it worked from the context menu but not when you load the theme? sounds like the theme isn't set up correctly |
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| 13:19:42 | Alldogship | anyone knows how I can backup my ipod partition table? I got a fixed version for the 30GB Video (2048-byte sectors) |
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| 13:23:55 | sneakums | Alldogship: i don't think you need to do anything to the default partition table for rockbox to work anymore |
| 13:24:52 | Alldogship | the one they gave in the wiki to convert from hfs+ to fat32 on a mac was wrong |
| 13:25:02 | Alldogship | sneakums: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10540.0 |
| 13:25:28 | sneakums | oh, i don't know anything about hfs+ ipods, so never mind then. |
| 13:26:15 | Alldogship | I finaly was able to download a windows iso, emulated it and now I got all my 30 gb space |
| 13:26:57 | Alldogship | I thought there could be a "dd if=... of..." command to save it |
| 13:27:55 | sneakums | something like dd if=/dev/sda of=blort bs=512 count=1, changing if= and of= to suit |
| 13:28:07 | sneakums | in particular if= needs to point to the whole disk device, not to a partition |
| 13:28:11 | sneakums | dunno what those are on os x though |
| 13:28:35 | Alldogship | bs is byte sector? mine has 2048 b sector size |
| 13:29:00 | sneakums | the mbr is just the first 512 bytes regardless |
| 13:29:56 | sneakums | er, for x86-type disks anyway |
| 13:30:03 | sneakums | mac partition tables are different, i just remembered |
| 13:30:21 | * | Alldogship got intel |
| 13:31:37 | sneakums | oh, i thought you had a hfs ipod |
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| 13:32:41 | Alldogship | i had. I installed windows for the 100% sure way to convert it |
| 13:33:28 | sneakums | well, a hfs ipod will have a mac-style partition table |
| 13:34:42 | Alldogship | now I finaly got fat32 with rockbox and my full 30gb |
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| 13:35:22 | Alldogship | will try reinstalling late with this partition table before submitting it |
| 13:37:14 | Alldogship | thank you for your help |
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| 13:40:34 | kayde | how do i install a theme into a 4g ipod? |
| 13:40:43 | kayde | where do i put the fule? |
| 13:40:45 | stripwax | kayde - what does the manual say? |
| 13:40:48 | kayde | **file |
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| 13:41:03 | kayde | stripwax: nothing |
| 13:41:38 | kayde | stripwax: where do i place the downloaded file? |
| 13:42:20 | stripwax | kayde - if it's a zip file, extract it into the root of your mp3 player |
| 13:42:34 | kayde | not into the.rockbox folder? |
| 13:42:35 | stripwax | if it's a zip file it should contain a folder called ".rockbox" by the way |
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| 13:42:43 | otih | hi |
| 13:42:43 | stripwax | kayde - what does the zip file contain |
| 13:42:58 | kayde | .rockbox, then a few sub-folders |
| 13:43:10 | kayde | i want to install a few choices |
| 13:43:28 | stripwax | kayde - unzip the zip fil into the root of your mp3 player |
| 13:43:40 | stripwax | ^file |
| 13:43:42 | otih | is there any chance zu build all rockboxes with the script for myone, to have all models in ccache? |
| 13:43:52 | kayde | ok |
| 13:43:53 | stripwax | otih - I don't know what that means |
| 13:43:53 | otih | ( build server ) |
| 13:44:49 | otih | my server is one of the buildservers ... i wanna build all rockbox models, so i have all in ccache ... i wanna compile faster |
| 13:44:55 | stripwax | kayde - this page tells you to do the same thing: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=160x128x2 |
| 13:45:08 | stripwax | right at the top - "extract the zip file into the roto folder of your player" |
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| 13:46:49 | stripwax | otih - sorry, I won't be able to help with that (hopefully one of the official devs can pitch in) |
| 13:48:08 | otih | stripwax: np ;) |
| 13:48:31 | kayde | stripwax: thnx mate |
| 13:48:51 | stripwax | kayde - did it work? |
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| 13:50:30 | otih | is there any rockbox merchendise? ;) |
| 13:51:07 | stripwax | otih - of course! http://www.cafepress.com/rockbox |
| 13:51:16 | stripwax | wait ... wrong link :-D |
| 13:51:41 | stripwax | http://www.cafepress.com/rockboxfirmware ;-) |
| 13:52:59 | stripwax | I don't know if there's any non-us equivalent however |
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| 13:54:24 | stripwax | looks like we could set one up at www.comboutique.com .. |
| 13:57:32 | otih | i lost my acbuild.pl, could anybody give me this file? |
| 13:58:01 | stripwax | kayde - I guess I'll take that at as a yes .. 8| |
| 13:58:04 | otih | ok i have. done; |
| 13:59:29 | Slasheri | JdGordon: sorry for the delay :) tagnavi_custom.config is included in tagnavi.config and can be used to extend or replace the default navigation |
| 13:59:45 | JdGordon | thanks, figured it out :) |
| 13:59:49 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 14:00:01 | JdGordon | you cant replace a submenu of the tagnavi.config with it thuogh can you? |
| 14:00:13 | JdGordon | instead of replacing the whole menu, or just includin it in |
| 14:00:41 | Slasheri | hmm, i don't think you can replace anything.. just add new things |
| 14:00:51 | Slasheri | and change the root_menu setting so user wont see the old menu |
| 14:01:26 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 14:09:04 | stripwax | Should the first arg to read_bmp_file be const? |
| 14:09:44 | JdGordon | the filename? |
| 14:10:10 | stripwax | yep |
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| 14:10:18 | JdGordon | doesnt make a difference... |
| 14:10:33 | JdGordon | read_bmp_file doesnt change it. |
| 14:10:40 | stripwax | JdGordon : - it does if I'm writing code that has a const char * , because then the compiler complains .. |
| 14:11:01 | JdGordon | just typecast it then |
| 14:11:23 | stripwax | if a fn doesn't change the contents of its pointer args, shouldn't the referenced data be of const type? (apols if I'm missing something). |
| 14:11:36 | Nico_P | stripwax: I think it should |
| 14:11:38 | * | stripwax thought that was the point of const-correctnes |
| 14:12:46 | stripwax | Nico_P - thanks. making it const sounds right to me too |
| 14:13:03 | Nico_P | I'm no C guru though |
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| 14:14:59 | stripwax | JdGordon - sliding puzzle patch updated (including typecase to remove the const-ness from the filename) |
| 14:15:04 | stripwax | ^typecast |
| 14:15:50 | JdGordon | ill have a looky son |
| 14:15:53 | JdGordon | sooon |
| 14:16:08 | stripwax | Nico_P - "const" is an indication to other developers that the function does *not* modify the data pointed to by the arg (so they can use it safely without e.g. having to make a copy). So const filenames for APIs should be const .. |
| 14:16:14 | * | JdGordon sort of has foreground colour matching workin with user icon |
| 14:16:15 | JdGordon | s |
| 14:16:31 | stripwax | i gotta head out, back later |
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| 14:16:37 | Nico_P | stripwax: yes, that's how I understood it... I have a few of those in the WPS code |
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| 14:16:53 | daurnimator | hey, JdGordon, I found out why atapwd didn't work |
| 14:17:02 | stripwax | Nico_P - yep, that's how it should be ;-) |
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| 14:17:07 | daurnimator | its a bloody sata drive! |
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| 14:17:24 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:17:36 | JdGordon | in which case nothing i have would have helped |
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| 14:18:06 | daurnimator | well... |
| 14:18:10 | daurnimator | its queer actually |
| 14:18:23 | daurnimator | I was damn sure its a pata drive |
| 14:18:30 | daurnimator | spec sheet even implies it |
| 14:19:10 | JdGordon | bah, stripwax left :( |
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| 15:06:35 | Domonoky | linuxstb: would it be possible to detect a 64MB ipod video with ipodpatcher ? (would make the support for this builds easyier in rbutil :-) ) |
| 15:07:28 | Nico_P | Domonoky: can't you know that from the disk size ? |
| 15:08:42 | Domonoky | Nico_P: that would be possible, but if you upgrade the harddisk in a ipod, you would have a problem :-) |
| 15:09:17 | Domonoky | and it would be nice to have it in ipodpatcher, because i use ipodpatcher to detect the connected Ipod in rockbox.. |
| 15:09:22 | Nico_P | good point |
| 15:09:57 | JdGordon | I doubt you would be able to get that with ipodpatch |
| 15:10:07 | Rondom | Domonoky: well, it think the device-id will differ (not sure, never looked at them) |
| 15:10:13 | Rondom | it=I |
| 15:11:10 | Domonoky | at the moment i dont use usb device ids for detecting device, ( i dont know enough about it to make it multiplatform compatible ) :-) |
| 15:12:07 | Domonoky | but it would be nice if someone could code something.. but there are also conflicts between Device IDs on different Devices, but it would be a step forward .. |
| 15:14:31 | Rondom | should be easy under linux |
| 15:14:41 | Rondom | but no sure how to do that under windows |
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| 15:15:00 | Domonoky | Rondom: but not so easy in windows, and i dont know about osX |
| 15:15:45 | Domonoky | and i think Windows and MacOsX are the important platforms for rbutil.. linux users are more techie :-) |
| 15:15:47 | Rondom | Domonoky: yeah, if you are lucky you also have usbfs (or something similiar) in osx |
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| 15:16:38 | Domonoky | i thought about using libusb (its multiplatform) but a bit overkill and would add a depencie.. |
| 15:16:40 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Even though that patch has been committed, I would still like to do automatic detection, so we can use one build for all memory sizes. |
| 15:17:07 | Domonoky | linuxstb: that would be even better.. so i dont bother with it in rbutil ? :-) |
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| 15:17:54 | Domonoky | but device detection is still a issue in rbutil, it the moment it can only detect ipods and sansas.. |
| 15:17:57 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Wanting to do something and actually doing it are two different things though... |
| 15:18:11 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 15:22:00 | DerPapst | maybe you could better detect it with scsi inquiry. mot sure if you are able to get the ram size of an ipod with that though. |
| 15:22:08 | DerPapst | *not |
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| 15:23:17 | DerPapst | http://ipodlinux.org:81/changeset/1426 adds that to the iPL installer. it works on linux and windows. |
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| 15:24:18 | linuxstb | DerPapst: Yes, I've been following that. I may add it to ipodpatcher in the future - to try and allow ipodpatcher to be used on very broken ipods. |
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| 15:27:55 | DerPapst | linuxstb: ok :) |
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| 15:29:01 | Mikeobin | hello! |
| 15:29:21 | Mikeobin | midkay are you there? |
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| 15:41:20 | XbooX | anyone know how many mHa the stock 80GB ipod video is? |
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| 16:03:48 | roffle | so, i flashed my cassette walkman with rockbox |
| 16:04:03 | roffle | now it will only play minidiscs |
| 16:04:07 | roffle | help! |
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| 16:05:31 | ][shmael | Nowdy |
| 16:05:33 | ][shmael | Howdy, even |
| 16:05:35 | ][shmael | anyone awake this early on a Sunday? |
| 16:06:14 | ][shmael | Guess not...I'l check back later |
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| 16:06:17 | roffle | bugger off |
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| 16:10:38 | JdGordon | whats the bst prog to do a binary diff on files? |
| 16:11:19 | schula | vbindiff? |
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| 16:15:39 | DerPapst | i like UltraCompare.. but it's comercial.. :-/ |
| 16:15:54 | XbooX | hey DerPapst |
| 16:16:02 | JdGordon | sansa possibly have become turds with the latest e200 OF... |
| 16:16:19 | XbooX | i registered finally |
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| 16:17:22 | DerPapst | i've used it at my university. |
| 16:17:33 | DerPapst | lo XbooX |
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| 16:20:56 | JdGordon | Nico_P: hey, were there any bugs with the list accel patch? |
| 16:21:34 | Nico_P | JdGordon: pages scrolling issue |
| 16:21:44 | Nico_P | apart from that, I don't think so |
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| 16:21:54 | JdGordon | ok, ill have a look at tha now |
| 16:22:27 | Nico_P | it's still not suited for ipod or sansa ? |
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| 16:23:50 | JdGordon | im going to try it on the sansa.. but im guessing it wont feel right |
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| 16:24:06 | JdGordon | also, Im pretty sure the ipod will still av the bug it had when i first put it up |
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| 16:24:45 | Nico_P | ok |
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| 16:24:52 | Nico_P | on my gigabeat it feels nice |
| 16:25:07 | Nico_P | unfortunately I don't have anything else to test it on |
| 16:27:13 | JdGordon | works fine on th sansa :) |
| 16:28:00 | XbooX | anyone know how to speed up searching for artists by first letter or when scrolling the list of all the artists on a 5.5G 80GB ipod? |
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| 16:29:43 | JdGordon | Nico_P: whats the problem with page scrolling? sure it goes way to fast... but is that all? |
| 16:30:26 | Nico_P | there's no serious problem besides that I think |
| 16:30:42 | XbooX | i wish that was my problem :/ |
| 16:30:44 | JdGordon | any ipod users around? |
| 16:30:49 | XbooX | right here |
| 16:30:59 | JdGordon | can you try out this patch? |
| 16:31:12 | XbooX | yeah |
| 16:31:13 | Buschel | hi there, does anyone of you know how to disable LCD on an 5G-ipod? i feel like having searched the whole web without any proper result... |
| 16:31:18 | JdGordon | shold make scrolling throuygh really long lists much less painful |
| 16:31:25 | Nico_P | XbooX: searching by first letter is a database feature IIRC |
| 16:31:26 | JdGordon | XbooX: can you compile your own builds? |
| 16:31:33 | XbooX | no |
| 16:31:49 | JdGordon | ok, ill do one for ya |
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| 16:31:55 | XbooX | cool bro |
| 16:32:31 | XbooX | is there a tutorial on compiling builds for rockbox anyware? |
| 16:32:37 | JdGordon | in the wiki |
| 16:32:44 | JdGordon | SimeGuideToCompiling iirc |
| 16:32:46 | JdGordon | Simple* |
| 16:32:51 | XbooX | alright |
| 16:33:17 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 16:33:48 | XbooX | honestly tho when i pick all the artests that start with A for example it locks it up for a good 2-3 min |
| 16:33:54 | XbooX | i had ignore on |
| 16:33:56 | XbooX | one sec |
| 16:34:09 | JdGordon | XbooX: if you could try that build and scroll up and down in the list, see if it does anything wierd |
| 16:34:11 | XbooX | send away |
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| 16:34:40 | XbooX | will do |
| 16:34:48 | JdGordon | I think the problem before was if yo stopped scrolling, the next one would still skip items as if you had kept scrolling |
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| 16:40:29 | XbooX | JdGordon: genious |
| 16:40:35 | XbooX | works like a charm |
| 16:40:50 | Nico_P | JdGordon: looks like your patch is ready for commit :) |
| 16:41:24 | XbooX | 5.5G 80GB iPod BTW |
| 16:41:24 | JdGordon | XbooX: nothing wierd happening? |
| 16:41:27 | XbooX | no |
| 16:41:39 | JdGordon | cool :) |
| 16:42:02 | XbooX | didnt do anything for searching A to Z |
| 16:42:17 | JdGordon | did you stop halfway for a tiny bit then continue? |
| 16:42:18 | XbooX | but its a million times better going threw the list of them all |
| 16:42:23 | XbooX | yup |
| 16:42:24 | JdGordon | or go back the opposite drection? |
| 16:42:52 | XbooX | one sec gotta wait for the search of e to end |
| 16:43:28 | XbooX | hitting play/pause to abort dosent do anything here it seems |
| 16:43:30 | JdGordon | need a better name for the List Acceleration Speed setting |
| 16:43:43 | JdGordon | menu to abort i tihnk |
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| 16:43:53 | sr | rmf, my rockbox is fucked :-/ |
| 16:43:53 | sr | it can't read files anymore |
| 16:44:25 | XbooX | i got a codec failure |
| 16:44:27 | XbooX | one sec |
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| 16:46:40 | XbooX | i cant play music at all |
| 16:46:59 | JdGordon | yeah, youll need to go back t whatever build you were using |
| 16:46:59 | XbooX | should i try rescaning the database? |
| 16:47:09 | JdGordon | no |
| 16:47:39 | XbooX | k |
| 16:47:53 | XbooX | that totally fixed that problem tho |
| 16:47:54 | JdGordon | did you try changing directions? |
| 16:48:01 | XbooX | yup |
| 16:48:08 | XbooX | works wicked |
| 16:48:13 | JdGordon | ok sweet |
| 16:48:32 | JdGordon | whos good at making setting names? |
| 16:48:40 | XbooX | i could get to the M's before id hit the B's before |
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| 16:52:36 | * | JdGordon blames XbooX for any complaints on the ipod |
| 16:53:49 | XbooX | he he he |
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| 16:58:57 | XbooX | what exactly did you change JdGordon? will i be able to see that easy enuf? |
| 16:59:30 | JdGordon | the list scrolling... |
| 16:59:33 | JdGordon | nothing else |
| 16:59:51 | JdGordon | 4.0.3 is the correct gcc for sh right? |
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| 17:00:12 | JdGordon | amiconn: you round? |
| 17:01:31 | Nico_P | JdGordon: that's the version I have |
| 17:01:45 | JdGordon | can you do a rec build with the patch please? |
| 17:01:51 | * | JdGordon is getting a nasty error |
| 17:01:58 | JdGordon | good thing I checked before commit |
| 17:02:11 | JdGordon | /usr/local/sh-elf/lib/gcc/sh-elf/4.0.3/../../../../sh-elf/bin/ld: region IRAM is full (/home/jonno/rockbox/rec/apps/rockbox.elf section .ibss) |
| 17:02:15 | JdGordon | ! |
| 17:04:11 | Nico_P | trying now |
| 17:04:51 | Nico_P | no problem here |
| 17:05:35 | JdGordon | rec v1? |
| 17:05:54 | Nico_P | yup... target n° 1 in tools/configure |
| 17:06:19 | JdGordon | ah, seems im using a unpatched gcc... probably the reason |
| 17:06:25 | JdGordon | i guess its safe to commit then? |
| 17:06:25 | Nico_P | yes, mine is patched |
| 17:06:34 | Nico_P | I think so |
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| 17:07:35 | * | JdGordon hopes your right :p |
| 17:08:24 | * | Nico_P too :) |
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| 17:09:06 | JdGordon | and off it goes |
| 17:09:19 | JdGordon | thanks for doing the sync btw :) |
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| 17:09:35 | Nico_P | you're welcome ;) |
| 17:10:05 | Nico_P | any idea about the delta ? |
| 17:10:30 | JdGordon | no :) i did the compile to see... |
| 17:10:36 | JdGordon | wanna spoil the surprise though? |
| 17:10:48 | Nico_P | no, I didn't look either |
| 17:10:56 | JdGordon | 243564 is the rec size of svn |
| 17:11:19 | Nico_P | I've already deleted the build I made :p |
| 17:11:21 | JdGordon | shhuoldnt be more than 1 or 200 bytes |
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| 17:15:58 | * | JdGordon broke theplayer did me? |
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| 17:17:53 | Soap | so, JdGordon, does this do anything for iPods or not? |
| 17:18:05 | JdGordon | it does |
| 17:18:13 | Soap | i see your comment in the FS entry that "ipod code was removed because it didn't work at all..." |
| 17:18:37 | JdGordon | yeah, I saw that too :p |
| 17:18:47 | JdGordon | but apparently it does |
| 17:18:59 | JdGordon | XbooX up there tested it.. blame him if it fals over :p |
| 17:19:27 | JdGordon | 388b on sh is a bit :( |
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| 17:23:55 | XbooX | what? |
| 17:23:56 | XbooX | lol |
| 17:24:13 | XbooX | sorry i didnt test the play functionality right away |
| 17:24:19 | XbooX | i didnt think it would affect that |
| 17:24:21 | XbooX | lol |
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| 17:24:44 | JdGordon | not play.. just the list scrolling |
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| 17:25:28 | * | JdGordon has to be awake in 8 hohuors, but is completly awake :( |
| 17:25:34 | JdGordon | damn insomnia |
| 17:26:07 | * | aliask knows the feeling |
| 17:26:15 | * | markun doesn't know it |
| 17:26:19 | * | petur yawns |
| 17:26:54 | * | JdGordon is off... and leaving too :p |
| 17:26:54 | * | aliask catches it from petur |
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| 17:26:59 | aliask | Yeah, me too. |
| 17:27:06 | aliask | g'night all |
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| 17:27:42 | * | XbooX want to make it so when he plugs in his usb cable it just charges and doesnt go into transfer mode with rockbox |
| 17:27:48 | XbooX | lol |
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| 17:28:53 | linuxstb_ | Nico_P: I was about to ask jdGordon, but as you synced it, you may know - can you explain briefly what the patch does? i.e. how it handles the acceleration? |
| 17:30:46 | Nico_P | from what I understand it gradually skips more and more items in the list |
| 17:31:09 | petur | XbooX: read the manual, I think you should hold some button when plugging usb |
| 17:31:15 | Nico_P | but actualy it was quite a simple sync so I didn't look at the code much |
| 17:32:10 | XbooX | ty petur |
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| 17:42:46 | Buschel | hi there, does anyone of you know how to disable LCD on an 5G-ipod? i feel like having searched the whole web without any proper result... |
| 17:43:51 | XbooX | Buschel: why would you want to disabe the LCD? |
| 17:44:19 | Buschel | just for power saving |
| 17:44:44 | Buschel | i often use it at night |
| 17:45:49 | XbooX | well |
| 17:45:58 | XbooX | i cant really help you there |
| 17:46:21 | XbooX | just thought id ask why someone would want to do such a thing |
| 17:46:40 | Buschel | that's ok :) |
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| 17:52:47 | rift | anybody use mpegplayer on ipod nano ? |
| 17:53:01 | rift | with mpegplayer i have only 7/87fps |
| 17:53:03 | rift | with mpegplayer i have only 7/8fps |
| 17:53:08 | rift | it"s normal ? |
| 17:57:13 | n1s | rift: are you using the official rockbox bootloader? |
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| 18:00:24 | XbooX | n1s: what is the difference between the ipod linux boot loader and the rockbox one? |
| 18:00:29 | XbooX | or is it the same? |
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| 18:01:42 | n1s | XbooX: no, they are not the same, some people have had that exact problem caused by ipod linux loader, I think the new versions are okay tho... |
| 18:01:59 | n1s | but as always we can only support the rockbox bootloader here... |
| 18:03:01 | Buschel | XbooX: You've tested the acceleration patch? I cannot see any effect when scrolling... |
| 18:03:34 | n1s | the older versions of both ipl-loader and the rockbox bootloader do not start the COP correctly, which leads to some strange things.. |
| 18:03:43 | linuxstb_ | Buschel: I doubt anywhere on the web apart from Rockbox or ipodlinux will have any info about programming the ipod hardware. |
| 18:04:01 | markun | rift: no, it's not normal |
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| 18:04:38 | Buschel | linuxstb: a pitty, that's what i feared |
| 18:05:51 | markun | Buschel: has any of your sansa power saving stuff been committed? |
| 18:06:44 | Buschel | markun: no, that's what i was asking about. without further information one cannot improve the power saving. the sansa-patch does not work on ipod. |
| 18:07:03 | markun | Buschel: but it works on the sansa I assume.. |
| 18:07:26 | markun | so committing (some of) it doesn't sounds completely useless |
| 18:07:55 | Nico_P | Buschel: to see the effects of the scroll accel patch you need to change the settings |
| 18:08:29 | Buschel | markun: i think so (haven't got one). the LCD-stuff has no effect on iPOD, i also disabled some device via evil hardcoding and using the define of PP5020.h -> also no effect on power consumption |
| 18:08:57 | linuxstb_ | How are you measuring power consumption? |
| 18:08:59 | Buschel | Nico: what do i need to change? |
| 18:09:28 | Nico_P | Buschel: the last two settings in display > scrolling |
| 18:09:28 | markun | Buschel: ah sorry, I assumed to sansa patch was also your work |
| 18:09:46 | Buschel | linux: via quite time-consuming battery bench and analyzing steepness of voltage over time |
| 18:10:24 | Buschel | nico: i changed these, no effect. do i have to restart or change other setting as well? |
| 18:10:42 | Buschel | markun: no problem |
| 18:10:47 | Nico_P | Buschel: in that case I don't know... you should see an accelration on long scrolls |
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| 18:13:32 | markun | Buschel: a multimeter would be a much simpler way, don't you think? |
| 18:14:15 | Buschel | markun: yes, in fact. but i've got none. so, after coding i go to bed and let the battery bench do the work |
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| 18:14:57 | Buschel | nico: did jgordon submit the version without iPOD-support? |
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| 18:17:27 | petur | I think it was for all targets |
| 18:18:08 | * | petur goes away to cook dinner |
| 18:18:25 | linuxstb_ | Buschel: I've just tried it on my ipod, and can't notice any difference either... |
| 18:20:03 | Buschel | someone should tell JGordon... |
| 18:21:07 | linuxstb_ | Although I don't have any long lists to test it properly. |
| 18:21:19 | XbooX | Buschel i did test that patch and it made a HUGE difference on my 80GB ipod |
| 18:21:35 | XbooX | sorry for the delay |
| 18:21:42 | Buschel | XbooX: but you haven't got the source, do you? |
| 18:21:49 | XbooX | no i dont |
| 18:22:15 | XbooX | JdGordon made it |
| 18:23:10 | Buschel | as far as i understand from the setting it should start to accelerate after some seconds of scrolling and accelerates each seconds then. my lists are definately long enough ;) |
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| 18:23:35 | linuxstb_ | XbooX: What values did you set the settings to? |
| 18:23:58 | XbooX | for the scroll speed? |
| 18:24:01 | XbooX | 15 |
| 18:24:14 | XbooX | one sec |
| 18:24:24 | XbooX | i will tell you all the values you want to know |
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| 18:24:57 | rift | markun: i have used the video on the wiki page |
| 18:25:05 | rift | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 18:25:27 | linuxstb_ | rift: Are you using the ipodlinux bootloader? |
| 18:25:47 | rift | yes |
| 18:25:59 | linuxstb_ | Then upgrade it to the newest version. Or use the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 18:26:50 | XbooX | linuxstb: speed 15, start delay 1000ms, step size 6px, bi limit 50%, screen scroll step size 16px |
| 18:27:18 | linuxstb_ | XbooX: It's the list accelleration settings which affect the scrolling in lists. |
| 18:27:26 | rift | linuxstb: do you know a we page to upgrade the ipodlinux bootloader ? |
| 18:27:36 | XbooX | linuxstb: can i load the apple os from a file with the Rockbox loader? |
| 18:27:44 | linuxstb_ | rift: No |
| 18:27:49 | linuxstb_ | XbooX: Yes |
| 18:28:09 | rift | k |
| 18:28:59 | XbooX | linuxstb: got a link to the Rockbox loader? |
| 18:29:36 | Buschel | @all: Could anyone test my mpc-patch (#7166) against non-iPOD ARM-based players and non-ARM/non-Coldfire players (are there any?)? of interest is performance compared to trunk |
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| 18:29:58 | linuxstb_ | XbooX: It's in the manual - the installation chapter. You may also want to read this page about advanced usage of ipodpatcher - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPatcher |
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| 18:31:39 | XbooX | i set it to 0 stays the same speed the whole time, but on 15 without the patch it goes fast for the first page or so then it crawls horrably slow, with the patch it was working exactly the way you would figure it would on 15 |
| 18:31:42 | otih | linuxstb_: i have send you in private |
| 18:32:26 | linuxstb_ | otih: Please just ask in this channel - other people may be able to help. |
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| 18:34:32 | XbooX | linuxstb: is there any way to compare this file to the ipodpatcher i already have? |
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| 18:34:57 | linuxstb_ | Compare what file? |
| 18:35:09 | n1s | Buschel: the only non-arm, non-coldfire players rockbox supports are the old archoses (which use SH1 processors iirc) and they are not swcodec, so arm and coldfire is all you have to worry about :-) |
| 18:35:49 | Buschel | n1s: that's one problem less :) |
| 18:36:05 | XbooX | ok i must not be following and its in the manual im sure |
| 18:36:07 | XbooX | sorry |
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| 18:39:51 | rift | hum |
| 18:40:00 | rift | ipodlinux loader not start rockbox |
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| 18:40:49 | rift | File : (hd0,1)/ROCKBO~1.IPO Err: open failed |
| 18:40:59 | desowin | it's in .rockbox/ directory |
| 18:41:38 | desowin | rift: (hd0,1)/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod |
| 18:43:07 | rift | yeah |
| 18:43:14 | rift | now the mpegplayer work fine |
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| 18:53:12 | Buschel | @all: ok, so my question is if someone with non.iPOD ARM-target could test patch #7166 regarding mpc-decoding performance. i am trying to check whether the compile-option -O1 will also bring better performance for non-iPOD, currently it is only set for iPODs. |
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| 18:55:58 | otih | ok, there is my question: my server is one of the build servers, but it took a long while to compile the stuff with a new commit. Because of that i wanna compile all models manual with the dev script to have all stuff in the ccache. how to manage this? |
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| 19:01:29 | XbooX | rift: im loading rockbox from the root directory with ipl loader 2.5 |
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| 19:01:49 | XbooX | is that a bad idea? |
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| 19:13:13 | XbooX | is there a difference between the ipod linux boot loader ipodpatcher, and the Rockbox boot loader ipodpatcher files? |
| 19:13:28 | linuxstb | otih: I'm not sure what you mean by "dev script", but I think you just need to build all targets (in your rbclient home directory, so you're using the same copy of the Rockbox source). |
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| 19:14:54 | rift | i don't know |
| 19:15:22 | XbooX | im totally confused with the loader part of this now, i got iPL 2.5 so im guessing this is the ipod linux one witch i used ipodpatcher to get on there. |
| 19:15:35 | linuxstb | XbooX: You should ask that in #ipodlinux - the official version of ipodpatcher is the Rockbox one, I don't know if the IPL version have released a modified version. |
| 19:16:00 | linuxstb | I mean I don't know if the IPL devs have released a modified version. |
| 19:16:11 | linuxstb | Or they may just link to the Rockbox website. |
| 19:16:12 | XbooX | k |
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| 19:17:12 | linuxstb | ipodpatcher is a tool to modify the firmware partition on an ipod. The version I release on the Rockbox website also has the Rockbox bootloader embedded inside it, so it can install that directly without needing it in a separate file. |
| 19:18:05 | XbooX | is there a way to get version info on the loared that is embedded into it? |
| 19:18:14 | XbooX | *loader |
| 19:18:40 | linuxstb | It displays that when you run it. |
| 19:18:46 | XbooX | ok |
| 19:19:41 | XbooX | so |
| 19:20:41 | XbooX | ipodpatcher v0.9 with iPL Loader 2.5d6 SVN-1409 |
| 19:21:15 | XbooX | that would oviously be the ipod linux one |
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| 19:21:27 | linuxstb | XbooX: Yes, so don't ask about it here... |
| 19:21:39 | sevenwords | hello everyone, what's shakin'? |
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| 19:21:45 | XbooX | wasnt planning on it ;) |
| 19:21:50 | lxx | hi |
| 19:22:10 | lxx | so now rockbox working on ipod 80gb ? |
| 19:22:24 | linuxstb | yes |
| 19:22:39 | lxx | without problems? |
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| 19:22:51 | linuxstb | No more than any other ipod |
| 19:23:05 | sevenwords | I was looking in the manual and I didn't see anything in the PDF about the WPS conditional tags for lock & unlock, would anyone happen to know what they are offhand? |
| 19:23:27 | linuxstb | Tried the CustomWPS wiki page? |
| 19:24:48 | XbooX | linuxstb should i uninstall the old bootloader or is it safe to just overwrite it? |
| 19:25:22 | linuxstb | It should be OK to overwrite it. |
| 19:25:30 | XbooX | k thanks |
| 19:25:40 | lxx | after i install rockbox can i return to official firmware? |
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| 19:26:18 | rift | yes |
| 19:26:39 | lxx | how i can do that ? |
| 19:26:50 | rift | with itunes |
| 19:27:01 | otih | linuxstb: how to do that ;) |
| 19:27:11 | XbooX | now i understand why rockbox goes into transfer mode the way it does lol |
| 19:27:14 | linuxstb | lxx: Just turn the hold switch on as your ipod boots - before the backlight comes on. |
| 19:27:24 | linuxstb | lxx: That will start the original firmware. |
| 19:27:44 | linuxstb | lxx: Or just follow the uninstall instructions in the manual if you want to remove Rockbox permanently |
| 19:28:02 | linuxstb | otih: You haven't built Rockbox yourself? |
| 19:28:16 | otih | i have but without ccache |
| 19:28:46 | linuxstb | You don't have to do anything special - the configure script will detect ccache and automatically use it |
| 19:29:31 | otih | ok ;) thx |
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| 19:36:02 | XbooX | linuxstb: the latest loader is loading rockbox.ipod from /.rockbox is that right? |
| 19:36:19 | linuxstb | All Rockbox bootloaders have done that. |
| 19:36:32 | linuxstb | I mean all versions of the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 19:37:14 | XbooX | ok |
| 19:37:20 | XbooX | thankyou for your time |
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| 19:38:21 | lxx | rockbox its only one in the world alternate firmware for ipod or not? |
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| 19:38:54 | * | n1s doesn't understand the question... |
| 19:39:25 | Soap | rockbox and ipodlinux are the only two. |
| 19:39:52 | lxx | just two? |
| 19:40:05 | p3tur | lxx: and then I think there are some tools to modify the original ipod firmware |
| 19:40:29 | Buschel | i will leave, see you |
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| 19:40:32 | Soap | ipodwizard is a resource editor for the stock firmware. |
| 19:42:32 | Soap | but, to answer your question directly, yes: There are only two alternative firmwares for ipods. Count yourself lucky - most have none or one. |
| 19:44:05 | lxx | |
| 19:44:06 | lxx | what's the difference between |
| 19:44:17 | lxx | rockbox and ipodlinux |
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| 19:44:45 | n1s | lxx: that's like asking about the difference between apples and oranges... |
| 19:44:53 | XbooX | lol |
| 19:44:56 | Soap | rockbox is an audio player. IpodLinux is linux on the ipod. It can play audio, but not as well IMHO, and it can do lots of other things. |
| 19:47:16 | lxx | ipodlinux support lossles formats like flac or ape? |
| 19:47:25 | XbooX | is it possible to load the apple os from within rockbox without using the loader? or fix my apple firmware with ipodpatcher? |
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| 19:49:43 | lxx | ipodlinux support lossles formats like flac or ape? |
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| 19:50:03 | dionoea | lxx: /join #ipodlinux |
| 19:50:44 | [7WoRds] | ok so i looked in the wiki and the only lock and unlock tags are for the iriver and ipod. is there a locked player/unlocked player wps tag for the gigabeat? |
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| 19:52:04 | lxx | but what file formats support rockbox? |
| 19:52:19 | desowin | lxx: rockbox supports flac and if you want just player firmware, use rockbox, it keeps battery life longer than ipodlinux |
| 19:52:54 | linuxstb | XbooX: Why can't you just restore with itunes if your Apple firmware is broken? |
| 19:53:21 | XbooX | i would rather not kill everything on it |
| 19:53:29 | dionoea | lxx: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 19:53:33 | n1s | [7WoRds]: yeah, those tags should work for the gigabeat. |
| 19:53:49 | linuxstb | lxx: For supported audio formats, see the table at the very bottom of this page - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 19:55:44 | n1s | [7WoRds]: or rather the "mh" tag for keylock on the main unit should, HAS_REMOTE_BUTTON_HOLD does not seem to be defined for the gigabeat |
| 19:56:17 | [7WoRds] | thank you n1s, i will try them now |
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| 20:00:34 | lxx | why rockbox dont support ape? |
| 20:01:22 | n1s | lxx: because ape is iirc not released under a gpl compatible license and is a very complicated codec for an embedded platform -> it would be slow |
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| 20:02:42 | LycoLoco | also it's lossless (right?) so it's easy enough to transcode to FLAC which does work |
| 20:05:01 | lxx | yeah but if uncompress flac to wav its be working on ipod? |
| 20:05:41 | n1s | lxx: rockbox can play both flac and wav files |
| 20:06:28 | lxx | official firmware can play wav? |
| 20:09:15 | LycoLoco | I don't think there's a single DAP that doesn't play WAV |
| 20:10:02 | XbooX | linuxstb: would it be possible to use the hold to load the iPL boot loader instead of the apple os? |
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| 20:16:13 | Soap | XbooX: the Rockbox bootloader will load IPL. |
| 20:16:19 | Soap | you don't need both bootloaders. |
| 20:16:57 | linuxstb | lxx: Out of curiousity, what compression level are your APE files compressed with? |
| 20:18:26 | XbooX | is there a rockbox loader configuration file? |
| 20:19:14 | lxx | <linuxstb> i have so much i dont know |
| 20:20:00 | linuxstb | XbooX: No |
| 20:20:25 | linuxstb | XbooX: To load IPL with the Rockbox bootloader, put an IPL kernel called "linux.bin" in the root of your FAT32 partition, and hold PLAY as you boot. |
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| 20:21:27 | XbooX | k |
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| 20:36:43 | XbooX | if im going to update rockbox is it safe to not overwrite the themes folder? should i just overwrite the files that are in the new version? |
| 20:39:26 | linuxstb | You should extract everything from the rockbox.zip, overwriting everything. But that won't affect any extra themes you've installed. |
| 20:39:43 | XbooX | cool |
| 20:40:11 | XbooX | looks like it wont affect my database ether will it? |
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| 20:44:39 | jmusits | hey all, I'm trying to load rockbox on my 1st gen nano and it seems to be stalling out while initializing the db any advice? |
| 20:45:27 | Slasheri | XbooX: database is affected only the internal structure has been changed (in that case export/import is necessary) |
| 20:45:31 | Slasheri | +if |
| 20:45:32 | badsheepy | mine did that when i had no files on it |
| 20:45:59 | jmusits | yeah I've got no files,so should I just throw some on there? |
| 20:46:25 | badsheepy | yeah |
| 20:46:37 | badsheepy | even a single one should fix it |
| 20:46:47 | jmusits | ok, cool thanks badsheepy |
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| 20:48:16 | XbooX | http://evilg.cleansoap.org/EvilG-Fusion-60-80G-20070525.zip this has the scroll issue fixed for the 5.5G 80GB iPod |
| 20:48:17 | z0de0 | has anyone returned a x5l to cowan with rockbox on it? |
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| 20:48:34 | z0de0 | mine died :( |
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| 20:48:48 | z0de | thats better |
| 20:49:30 | z0de | no one? |
| 20:50:47 | z0de | :( |
| 20:51:20 | LycoLoco | z0de: died how? |
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| 20:52:47 | z0de | it quit mid song and wont respond to anything |
| 20:52:57 | LycoLoco | can you do a hard reset? |
| 20:53:10 | z0de | how would i do that? |
| 20:53:40 | z0de | or do you mean the reset button on the x5 |
| 20:53:55 | LycoLoco | I dunno, I'm just asking generic questions that I would use on my player |
| 20:54:13 | XbooX | how can i force rockbox to go into usb data transfer mode when i plug in the cable? |
| 20:54:18 | z0de | oh right. then yes ive reset it |
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| 20:57:15 | XbooX | hold down memu XD |
| 20:57:41 | z0de | lol |
| 20:57:57 | z0de | it wont switch on or respond to charger |
| 20:58:01 | z0de | or usb |
| 20:58:42 | LycoLoco | can you pull out the battery? |
| 20:58:42 | z0de | still on warrent but with rockbox |
| 20:58:49 | z0de | not without opening it |
| 20:59:33 | z0de | fairly sure is a hardware problem and not software |
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| 21:03:41 | XbooX | is it possible to fix the apple os/firmware with ipodpatcher? |
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| 21:04:50 | desowin | XbooX: ipodpatcher is to patch bootloader, to fix apple firmware use either iTunes, or if you're on linux use instructions from wiki |
| 21:05:23 | XbooX | damn, i guess i gotta redo all my stuff then? |
| 21:05:29 | linuxstb | XbooX: Yes - see the answer I just wrote to your same question in #ipodlinux... |
| 21:05:35 | XbooX | lol |
| 21:05:35 | z0de | lol |
| 21:05:39 | linuxstb | I mean yes to your first question... |
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| 21:20:30 | z0de | so anyone got any ideas on what i could do? |
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| 21:30:22 | lxx | hi |
| 21:30:35 | lxx | rockbox support audiobooks? |
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| 21:32:11 | z0de | audio books = music file with a person reading a book? |
| 21:32:23 | lxx | yes |
| 21:32:37 | lxx | but i mean bookmarks |
| 21:32:44 | lxx | when i stop listen |
| 21:33:06 | lxx | and when star listen again its starts from bookmark |
| 21:33:09 | z0de | you can bookmark, may depend on the player |
| 21:33:24 | lxx | i have ipod80gb |
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| 21:34:00 | z0de | i dont know but i assume it would. might be worth checking the guide/wiki/mauna; |
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| 21:35:09 | jac0b | do I have to reapply patchs to my build when I update my svn to current? |
| 21:35:59 | lxx | but i dont know i cant upload mp3files audiobooks with bookmarks support books uploaded via itunes just like mp3 file how i need upload audiobooks? |
| 21:36:27 | z0de | i dont know, hang around and someone might anwser. |
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| 21:37:19 | badsheepy | yeah im sure you can just turn on bookmarks, i did it by mistake once and it confused me for hours :o |
| 21:40:30 | n1s | jac0b: that kinda depends on what's changed in svn since your last update, but it will complain about conflicts if there are any... |
| 21:41:14 | jac0b | oh so when I update my svn it will complain about a conflict |
| 21:41:27 | jac0b | on the patched files |
| 21:41:45 | lxx | badsheepy where i need turn on bookmarks? |
| 21:42:07 | badsheepy | i was looking, but i cant find my ipod to tell you sorry :o |
| 21:42:08 | n1s | jac0b: yes |
| 21:42:28 | * | pie-chan eats badsheepy |
| 21:42:48 | jac0b | cool so when I get a conflict I need to reapply the patches |
| 21:43:04 | jac0b | n1s: thanks |
| 21:43:05 | n1s | lxx: General settings -> Bookmarking -> bookmark on stop |
| 21:44:15 | linuxstb_ | jac0b: No, when you get a conflict you need to fix the conflict. If you tried to reapply the patch to a clean copy of SVN, the patches would fail in the same place. |
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| 21:45:44 | lxx | but when i upload audiobook they dont shown in ipod in audiobooks folder its in folder with other mp3 files what i need to do to copy audiobooks in audiobooks folder on my ipod? |
| 21:46:17 | linuxstb | Create a folder called "Audiobooks", and copy the files there... |
| 21:47:53 | lxx | <n1s> i dont find this settings |
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| 21:54:29 | lxx | <n1s> lxx: General settings -> Bookmarking -> bookmark on stop - i dont have this settings in my ipod |
| 21:55:22 | linuxstb_ | lxx: Do you have "General Settings" ? |
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| 22:04:40 | k0rnz | what is a good video converter to convert DVD movies to ipod format? |
| 22:05:21 | linuxstb_ | Do you mean ipod format (i.e. Apple's firmware) or Rockbox format? |
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| 22:05:49 | k0rnz | whichever one |
| 22:06:12 | linuxstb_ | Which ipod do you have? |
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| 22:06:20 | k0rnz | i want to mod both my ipods to rockbox and also convert some of my favorite DVDs to ipod video format |
| 22:06:35 | k0rnz | 5th Generation 30Gb, and the new 80Gb |
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| 22:07:02 | k0rnz | going on a long trip around the world and want to get the program before I leave |
| 22:07:16 | linuxstb_ | On the video ipods, you will want to use Apple's firmware to watch videos, not Rockbox. Discussion of Apple's firmware is off-topic in this channel though. |
| 22:07:26 | k0rnz | ok thanks |
| 22:07:48 | Llorean | k0rnz: Try doom9.org, if I recall the site properly |
| 22:07:58 | Llorean | It's video conversion in general, but it's likely to have some help |
| 22:08:08 | k0rnz | oh yeah doom9.org, its been years since I been there |
| 22:08:16 | k0rnz | thanks Mr. DeLorean |
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| 22:12:24 | lxx | <linuxstb_> yes |
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| 22:13:03 | lxx | i hava settings |
| 22:13:09 | lxx | not general |
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| 22:14:01 | a1titude | is there a way to change the backlight brightnes on the iPod? |
| 22:14:06 | linuxstb_ | lxx: In the Settings menu, you should have an entry "General Settings". |
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| 22:15:13 | lxx | no i dont have it |
| 22:15:26 | linuxstb_ | lxx: You are running Rockbox? |
| 22:15:49 | lxx | no |
| 22:15:59 | lxx | official firmware |
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| 22:16:29 | linuxstb_ | lxx: We're telling you how to do things in Rockbox... |
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| 22:23:55 | lazka | am i the only one who thinks the settings menu needs some work? most items are placed kind of random |
| 22:24:41 | badsheepy | i dont think its entirely intuitive, took me a while to find dircache to begin with |
| 22:25:10 | linuxstb_ | lazka: No, I think everyone agrees the settings need reorganising |
| 22:25:15 | Llorean | lazka: They make sense to the people who put them where they did, but anyone's free to try to come up with a better layout. |
| 22:25:27 | Llorean | They're far from the most understandable for new people |
| 22:25:40 | n1s | and, the's so many :-) |
| 22:25:45 | n1s | +r |
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| 22:27:12 | * | lazka is looking for a bug/feature report about this |
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| 22:28:04 | n1s | lazka: there's some discussion about it in the wiki I think, or the forum maybe, the main problem though is that everyone want's it to be different... |
| 22:29:12 | lazka | hm, k thx. i just wanted to know if people are aware of this |
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| 22:30:16 | lazka | at least i would split the display menu into "appearance" and "display" |
| 22:36:48 | badsheepy | see i would hate that |
| 22:37:08 | badsheepy | how do you decide what the difference is? |
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| 22:39:28 | lazka | badsheepy: everything that changes how things look (wps, fonts, colors) -> appearence - everthing that changes hardware stuff (brightness, backlight, timings) -> display |
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