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| 00:11:32 | DerPapst | "<Llorean> He's [DerPapst] already in the credits file, in one way or another" Did i miss something? |
| 00:11:41 | DerPapst | good morning btw :P |
| 00:11:47 | Llorean | DerPapst: Don't you qualify as the "iPodLinux team" |
| 00:11:56 | Llorean | :-P |
| 00:12:28 | DerPapst | well.. i'm just a user of iPL. but not really part of "the" iPL team. ;) |
| 00:13:06 | DerPapst | but i'm fine with it :) |
| 00:13:34 | Llorean | DerPapst: Well, you said "I've bumped the latest Loader 2 version to 2.5" so I assumed since you seemed to have control over version numbering of a key element, you were at least in some way part of 'the team' whatever it may be. |
| 00:13:42 | Llorean | Besides, it was a one character change, yeah. :) |
| 00:14:14 | DerPapst | (actuall for such a tiny fix a mention in the credits is a bit unfair) |
| 00:14:52 | Llorean | They put me in the credits when I wasn't looking before I'd even contributed any code. Heh. |
| 00:15:09 | DerPapst | hehe |
| 00:16:59 | DerPapst | the thing by iPL is that only 5% can actually compile any stuff. and i submitted a patch for Loader 2 (fixing the rockbox path and bumping the version) and released compiled version including that patch. but somehow only half the patch was accepted. |
| 00:17:20 | Llorean | They didn't accept the rockbox path part? |
| 00:17:24 | DerPapst | so in iPL's SVN tree Loader 2's version is still 2.5d6 :D |
| 00:17:31 | Llorean | :-P |
| 00:17:34 | Llorean | Weird |
| 00:17:38 | DerPapst | that is accepted |
| 00:18:28 | Llorean | Is most iPL development in the modules, or whatever they're called? |
| 00:18:32 | DerPapst | d is for development version. and since every possible changes have been made i thought it would be ok to bump it to 2.5 ;) |
| 00:19:14 | Llorean | I stumbled across the cia.vc page for iPL while looking for ours, and it says we make a commit about once ever 2.5 hours, on average, while iPL makes one once per 2.5 days or so. |
| 00:19:26 | DerPapst | yes. everybody can check in self written modules into a repository on our wiki. |
| 00:19:34 | Llorean | Gotcha |
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| 00:20:15 | DerPapst | about 1/3 are half finished or crash |
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| 00:21:02 | DerPapst | some people just don't understand that they only should publish their modules when they are workin on the desktop build AND the iPod ^^ |
| 00:21:45 | DerPapst | some are even registering a module without publishing anything. just to save the name. |
| 00:22:05 | * | DerPapst is happily deleting such "modules" then :D |
| 00:22:24 | DerPapst | sometimes superpowers are fun :) |
| 00:26:25 | DerPapst | but i think the iPL project is more or less dead. |
| 00:26:54 | saratoga | IPL did seem rather unintersting once Rockbox was around |
| 00:27:00 | DerPapst | and now where the server is acting up... :-/ |
| 00:28:19 | DerPapst | well.. i use the OF for music and iPL for the fun of it (not gaming). |
| 00:28:49 | DerPapst | and i didn't own a targed to use rockbox. |
| 00:30:22 | DerPapst | i can now use it on my 5.5G ipod thanks to amiconn. (<−− the reason why i'm here so often lately :P) |
| 00:34:05 | DerPapst | good night at all :) |
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| 02:07:27 | XavierGr | LOL I didn't know that there was a zune on linux page! |
| 02:07:34 | XavierGr | I like their planning |
| 02:07:44 | XavierGr | Alpha 1> Will have a graphical user interface. |
| 02:07:53 | XavierGr | Beta> Will utilize WiFi. |
| 02:07:58 | XavierGr | Final 1.0 Release> Will be stable enough for everyday use. |
| 02:08:15 | pixelma | XavierGr: it's (or should be) linux on zune ;) |
| 02:08:16 | Guile` | lol |
| 02:08:20 | XavierGr | these guys sure know what they are doing :P |
| 02:08:34 | XavierGr | ah yes indeed :) |
| 02:08:54 | * | Guile` ecoute The Who - [Who's Next #01] Baba O'Riley |
| 02:09:06 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hey guys, lu-bao is trying to decide which MP3 player to buy. Something that isn't iPod, but still pretty. Mind helping him out? |
| 02:09:39 | Thundercloud | And one which can run rockbox, or? |
| 02:09:39 | Guile` | cowon |
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| 02:09:45 | Guile` | iaudio |
| 02:10:24 | lu-bao | um o.o |
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| 02:10:45 | lu-bao | i never said i wont have iPod xD its a beautiful design :) |
| 02:11:17 | XavierGr | ugly if you ask me, and very crappy overall (IMHO) |
| 02:11:24 | pixelma | lu-bao: maybe reading the BuyersGuide in the wiki helps a bit... |
| 02:11:47 | lu-bao | for me i love that design cause there are no buttons with spaces its all flat :) |
| 02:11:57 | lu-bao | pixelma buyers guide? |
| 02:12:04 | Dark_Apostrophe | He also found the Asono MX pretty |
| 02:12:13 | Dark_Apostrophe | So you know what type of design he likes |
| 02:12:14 | lu-bao | yeah flat also :P |
| 02:12:17 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm off, bye |
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| 02:12:39 | lu-bao | i dont like designs where buttons come out or so i love flat players with color displays :) |
| 02:12:55 | pixelma | an overview of rockbox supported players and their features http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
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| 02:16:56 | pixelma | XavierGr: http://zune-linux.com/forums/ <- fun during devcon |
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| 02:27:59 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: I don't think you meant to say this - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugins/test_sampr.c?r1=13598&r2=13599 |
| 02:30:08 | jhMikeS | LOL...definitely not :) |
| 02:30:35 | linuxstb | :) |
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| 02:31:10 | jhMikeS | can the build server work for more than, say 3 builds in a row any more? |
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| 02:35:46 | MX-G | hi |
| 02:36:03 | MX-G | well, im n00b at this |
| 02:36:08 | MX-G | and my english is awfull |
| 02:36:23 | MX-G | is rockbox compatible with 80 gigs ipods? |
| 02:36:38 | Soap | as long as your English doesn't include "lol" "tk", etc. all will be cool. |
| 02:36:42 | linuxstb | MX-G: Yes. |
| 02:36:50 | Soap | yes it works on the 80 GB iPod. |
| 02:37:09 | Soap | there are scattered reports of issues, though, which appear to be unique to the 80GB |
| 02:37:38 | MX-G | could I install rockbox and original's firmware at the same time? |
| 02:38:00 | Soap | yes, this is the default. You would need to go out of your way to remove the original firmware. |
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| 02:38:47 | MX-G | well, how can I install rockbox? |
| 02:39:43 | linuxstb | MX-G: Read the manual - http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 02:39:57 | MX-G | thanks |
| 02:40:03 | MX-G | let me see it |
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| 02:45:12 | MX-G | which one is the lastest build for ipod video?= |
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| 02:47:58 | linuxstb | The Current Build. |
| 02:48:16 | MX-G | thnks |
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| 02:53:15 | MX-G | well |
| 02:53:20 | MX-G | i think i installed rockbox |
| 02:53:22 | MX-G | but |
| 02:53:35 | MX-G | i cant see the original firmware |
| 02:56:12 | linuxstb | That's the idea... |
| 02:56:33 | linuxstb | But you can dual-boot - turn the hold switch on immediately after turning your ipod on to boot the Apple firmware. |
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| 02:58:00 | MX-G | oh |
| 02:58:00 | MX-G | nice |
| 02:58:10 | MX-G | could i install linux too? |
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| 02:59:24 | linuxstb | If you wanted to. See http://ipodlinux.org (when it's working) |
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| 03:00:52 | MX-G | it isn't working on 80 gigs? |
| 03:01:09 | MX-G | isn't it working on 80 gigs? |
| 03:02:36 | linuxstb | I meant that their website isn't working. |
| 03:02:56 | MX-G | aaaaaah |
| 03:06:14 | MX-G | how can i install it like rockbox? |
| 03:06:18 | MX-G | dual boot |
| 03:06:54 | Llorean | Help for installing other peoples' software should be asked of those other people. |
| 03:07:04 | MX-G | oh |
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| 03:25:40 | MX-G | is there any plugin to read .wmv files? |
| 03:26:03 | Soap | is that windows movies? |
| 03:26:10 | MX-G | yes |
| 03:26:18 | Soap | it's a container, just like .avi |
| 03:26:41 | Soap | different codecs might be inside it. It will probably never be suppoted. |
| 03:26:52 | MX-G | :/ |
| 03:29:02 | Soap | you would (most likely) have to reencode those .wmv files anyhoo to match your screen resolution... |
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| 03:31:00 | MX-G | well |
| 03:31:02 | MX-G | at all |
| 03:31:11 | MX-G | rockbox seems to be nice firmware |
| 03:31:18 | MX-G | after a few of modifications |
| 03:31:27 | MX-G | themes, fonts and those things |
| 03:32:58 | MX-G | how can i translate it to spanish? |
| 03:35:10 | MX-G | and what's rockdoom? |
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| 03:51:33 | Soap | rockdoom is a port of the classic game _engine_ doom |
| 03:51:43 | Soap | info can be found in the manual and wiki |
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| 04:03:00 | MX-G | thanks for all |
| 04:03:03 | MX-G | :) |
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| 04:20:34 | mlw4428 | hi |
| 04:20:55 | mlw4428 | I've got a question with some of the themes |
| 04:21:13 | mlw4428 | I'm using the newest build fyi on a ipod video (5th Gen) |
| 04:21:33 | mlw4428 | My question is that some of the themes on the site don't look like they should on my ipod |
| 04:22:27 | mlw4428 | For example with the Black AA theme the big blue play button (and that "media center" type display doesn't show) |
| 04:22:37 | mlw4428 | *Black Glass AA |
| 04:23:05 | mlw4428 | All I see is the blackdrop and some bars that move while the music is playing (like a visualizer of sorts) |
| 04:23:10 | mlw4428 | Can anyone help? |
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| 04:24:13 | mlw44280 | sorry about that |
| 04:24:29 | mlw44280 | now could anyone help with my problem? |
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| 04:31:23 | saratoga | do you have whatever random patches that WPS requires? |
| 04:35:42 | mlw44280 | umm |
| 04:35:50 | mlw44280 | if they weren't included with the latest build |
| 04:35:52 | mlw44280 | no |
| 04:36:11 | mlw44280 | where do you go for those? |
| 04:37:17 | mlw44280 | I see two different types of patches |
| 04:37:20 | mlw44280 | EvilG |
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| 04:37:33 | mlw44280 | and Rasher's |
| 04:37:36 | mlw44280 | which do I need? |
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| 04:37:53 | mlw44280 | ah i see sim is a simulator |
| 04:37:54 | mlw44280 | nevermind |
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| 05:04:05 | kohlman | NEED HELP!! |
| 05:04:28 | TrueJournals | WITH WHAT!! |
| 05:04:43 | kohlman | i have a 6GB iriver and i am trying to intall rockbox |
| 05:04:50 | TrueJournals | iriver H10? |
| 05:04:55 | kohlman | yes |
| 05:04:57 | TrueJournals | OK |
| 05:05:04 | TrueJournals | What problem are you having? |
| 05:05:28 | kohlman | and i have followed instructions but when i turn it on rockbox dosnt boot |
| 05:05:47 | TrueJournals | Does the original firmware boot? |
| 05:05:52 | kohlman | yes |
| 05:06:18 | kohlman | can u help? |
| 05:06:42 | TrueJournals | Did you replace the H10.mi4 file in the System directory of your H10 with the rockbox bootloader? |
| 05:07:05 | kohlman | no it said to rename it to OF.mi4 |
| 05:07:25 | TrueJournals | You have to rename the ORIGINAL H10.mi4 to OF.mi4 |
| 05:07:35 | TrueJournals | keep the rockbox bootloader named H10.mi4 |
| 05:07:37 | kohlman | o.... |
| 05:07:41 | kohlman | woops |
| 05:07:46 | kohlman | i will try |
| 05:07:52 | TrueJournals | Well, glad it was easy to fix ;-) |
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| 05:11:07 | kohlman | now it wont boot |
| 05:11:19 | TrueJournals | Does it show the blue iriver screen? |
| 05:12:11 | kohlman | ya then it say file not found |
| 05:12:30 | kohlman | ahhh |
| 05:12:43 | kohlman | emergency connect still works |
| 05:12:52 | TrueJournals | make sure it's named H10.mi4 |
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| 05:13:00 | TrueJournals | and it's in the System folder... |
| 05:13:22 | kohlman | mi4 or m14? |
| 05:13:30 | TrueJournals | mi4 |
| 05:13:36 | kohlman | ok |
| 05:14:10 | kohlman | i will try... |
| 05:14:17 | TrueJournals | Luckily, if you mess things up when installing on the H10, it's not that big of a deal :-) |
| 05:14:24 | kohlman | ya |
| 05:14:51 | kohlman | gainhappened ah |
| 05:15:15 | TrueJournals | Hmmm.... |
| 05:15:29 | TrueJournals | What OS are you using? |
| 05:15:36 | kohlman | os? |
| 05:15:41 | kohlman | UMS |
| 05:15:43 | TrueJournals | Operating System |
| 05:15:43 | kohlman | ?? |
| 05:15:50 | TrueJournals | Windows? Mac? Linux? |
| 05:16:06 | kohlman | should i name what i got in everything? |
| 05:16:15 | kohlman | sfddsa |
| 05:16:18 | TrueJournals | Just what Operating System is on your computer |
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| 05:17:01 | kohlmans | ok |
| 05:17:16 | kohlmans | sorry something went wrong |
| 05:17:22 | TrueJournals | That's OK |
| 05:17:25 | kohlmans | k ya i am using UMS |
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| 05:17:51 | TrueJournals | UMS is not an Operating System, it's the type of protocol to connect devices... |
| 05:17:56 | kohlmans | and on the root i got .rockbox and all the other stuff |
| 05:18:05 | kohlmans | then in system i got... |
| 05:18:31 | kohlmans | H10.mi4 and Of.mi4 |
| 05:18:45 | kohlmans | and all the other stuff |
| 05:19:07 | kohlmans | so does anythiing seem wrong |
| 05:19:08 | TrueJournals | Hmmm... |
| 05:19:20 | TrueJournals | No.. |
| 05:19:23 | TrueJournals | try booting it up again |
| 05:19:30 | kohlmans | ok... |
| 05:19:49 | kohlmans | nope |
| 05:19:59 | TrueJournals | Which H10.mi4 did you download? The one for UMS devices or the one for MTP? |
| 05:20:25 | kohlmans | ums |
| 05:20:38 | TrueJournals | You probably need the MTP one |
| 05:20:58 | TrueJournals | replace your H10.mi4 in your System folder with the one at http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/H10_5GB-MTP/H10.mi4 |
| 05:21:18 | kohlmans | i have a 6GB but that works with 5gb firmware right? |
| 05:21:24 | TrueJournals | yes |
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| 05:21:37 | TrueJournals | 6GB and 5GB models are exactly the same except for the harddrive |
| 05:21:43 | kohlmans | should i not do the UMS trick then |
| 05:21:49 | TrueJournals | no |
| 05:21:56 | kohlmans | ok |
| 05:22:12 | TrueJournals | Well |
| 05:22:21 | TrueJournals | no as in you should do the UMS trick to connect your H10 |
| 05:24:25 | kohlmans | hmm i took the rockbocks of and is wont boot |
| 05:25:00 | TrueJournals | If you are going to remove rockbox, you will need to rename OF.mi4 to H10.mi4 |
| 05:25:08 | kohlmans | i did |
| 05:25:40 | TrueJournals | Then you'll need to use iriver's recovery tool |
| 05:25:46 | kohlmans | whats that? |
| 05:25:55 | kohlmans | where do i get it? |
| 05:26:35 | kohlmans | hello?? |
| 05:26:40 | TrueJournals | http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/mtpupdate/ |
| 05:26:50 | kohlmans | THANKS |
| 05:27:06 | TrueJournals | Try to be patient online... it didn't even take me a minute to get that link |
| 05:29:24 | kohlmans | im just worried |
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| 05:31:51 | kohlmans | ok |
| 05:32:03 | kohlmans | now its updating |
| 05:32:10 | kohlmans | thanks |
| 05:32:18 | kohlmans | should i try again |
| 05:32:22 | TrueJournals | No problem |
| 05:32:28 | TrueJournals | Try to install rockbox again? |
| 05:32:32 | TrueJournals | If you want... |
| 05:32:34 | kohlmans | ya |
| 05:32:52 | kohlmans | what is so good about it on an irver? |
| 05:33:15 | kohlmans | is it worth it? |
| 05:33:31 | TrueJournals | It can play movies, play games, play lossless audio formats... the while playing screen (WPS) is customizeable... there's a bunch of audio things you can play with |
| 05:33:35 | TrueJournals | I think it's worth it... |
| 05:33:44 | kohlmans | video |
| 05:33:47 | kohlmans | sweet |
| 05:34:01 | kohlmans | k can u give me a walk through? |
| 05:34:11 | scorche | kohlmans: the manual can |
| 05:34:23 | kohlmans | it briked my iriver |
| 05:34:26 | kohlmans | well i did |
| 05:34:29 | TrueJournals | No |
| 05:34:34 | TrueJournals | you did not brick it |
| 05:34:35 | kohlmans | well close |
| 05:34:39 | TrueJournals | Not even |
| 05:34:46 | TrueJournals | It's VERY hard to brick an iriver H10 |
| 05:34:46 | kohlmans | sorry im used to psp |
| 05:34:50 | kohlmans | ya |
| 05:34:58 | scorche | there is no "almost bricked it"...you either did or didnt... |
| 05:34:59 | kohlmans | can u help me? |
| 05:35:16 | kohlmans | im tryin again |
| 05:35:17 | scorche | just follow the manual exactly |
| 05:35:23 | kohlmans | i did! |
| 05:35:32 | TrueJournals | Well, no, you really didn't... |
| 05:35:41 | scorche | if it didnt work, you didnt |
| 05:35:46 | kohlmans | i i will try again |
| 05:35:54 | TrueJournals | If you have a question about any step, just ask |
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| 05:36:12 | kohlmans | k also dosnt matter my version does it? |
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| 05:36:36 | kohlmans | whats the best rockbox to get? |
| 05:36:47 | TrueJournals | When you plugged the H10 into the computer when using the original firmware, did it show up as a media device, or an external harddrive? |
| 05:37:08 | kohlmans | um donno |
| 05:37:11 | kohlmans | i will try |
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| 05:37:36 | TrueJournals | If it shows up as a media device, you have a MTP player, if it shows up as an external harddrive, you have a UMS device |
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| 05:38:00 | TrueJournals | There are no "versions" of rockbox, it's just that the player works slightly differently, so the code has to account for that |
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| 05:38:11 | kohlmans | i think mtp |
| 05:38:18 | | Part t0dk0n |
| 05:38:19 | TrueJournals | Then get the MTP bootloader |
| 05:38:24 | TrueJournals | Sorry, but I have to go |
| 05:38:27 | TrueJournals | Good luck! |
| 05:38:33 | kohlmans | k |
| 05:38:36 | kohlmans | cya |
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| 05:45:12 | kohlmans | so now where do i put songs? still use windows media player? |
| 05:45:36 | kohlmans | anyone??????? |
| 05:45:58 | kohlmans | scorche? |
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| 05:52:58 | webguest09 | i was wondering if i can put videos on my iriver H10 |
| 05:53:05 | webguest09 | if i have rockbox |
| 05:53:29 | webguest09 | HELLO???? |
| 05:53:52 | webguest09 | anyone there |
| 05:54:25 | webguest09 | i need help |
| 05:54:33 | webguest09 | scorche |
| 05:54:40 | webguest09 | ?? |
| 05:55:20 | webguest09 | r u kidding me |
| 05:55:27 | scorche | i am busy doing other things atm...please have some patience and read the IRC guidelines linked in the topic |
| 05:55:42 | webguest09 | k but i need help |
| 05:55:54 | webguest09 | its a simple question |
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| 05:56:32 | webguest09 | can u say yes or no if i even can put videos on |
| 05:56:51 | scorche | am i supposed to drop whatever i am doing to help you?...and please do read the guidelines...if you follow them, people will be more willing to help you |
| 05:56:54 | scorche | yes you can |
| 05:57:02 | webguest09 | ok what format |
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| 05:57:20 | scorche | please read the manual...it is all answered there... |
| 05:57:24 | webguest09 | mp4 or avi or what |
| 05:57:33 | webguest09 | i looked i cant find it |
| 05:57:47 | tw2113 | hi |
| 05:57:53 | webguest09 | hi |
| 05:57:58 | webguest09 | can u help |
| 05:58:30 | webguest09 | plz |
| 05:58:43 | tw2113 | i'm trying to install it, and i thought all went well, but my 4g ipod won't boot up with rockbox, it keeps going to apple |
| 05:58:50 | scorche | last warning...i was typing out a response to you, but if you cant even wait for me to type it, then i am not going to bother helping |
| 05:59:06 | webguest09 | ok i will wait |
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| 05:59:29 | tw2113 | i'll hold for the moment |
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| 06:00:03 | scorche | tw2113: that wasnt directed at you...does it boot into the apple firmware then? |
| 06:00:19 | tw2113 | i know it wasn't at me, but i came in after him |
| 06:00:43 | tw2113 | yeah, it goes to apple firmware, and i'm on linux |
| 06:00:43 | scorche | this isnt a queue ;) |
| 06:00:52 | scorche | did you install the bootloader? |
| 06:01:01 | tw2113 | yes |
| 06:01:11 | tw2113 | .rockbox put on root ipod folder |
| 06:01:18 | webguest09 | i will wait i guess |
| 06:01:20 | scorche | that is not the bootloader |
| 06:01:33 | tw2113 | might be where i went wrong |
| 06:01:39 | webguest09 | llol |
| 06:01:44 | tw2113 | do i need to copy what's in that folder into my ipod? |
| 06:01:44 | scorche | follow the instructions in the manual, and things will work a lot better ;) |
| 06:01:52 | tw2113 | i thought i did :D |
| 06:01:58 | webguest09 | kan u help me now? |
| 06:02:03 | webguest09 | can* |
| 06:02:30 | scorche | well, there is the "installing the firmware" section, and the "installing the bootloader" section...it sounds as if you only did the first |
| 06:02:31 | tw2113 | i'll hang out in here while i try again |
| 06:02:50 | webguest09 | k scorche can u help me now |
| 06:03:45 | webguest09 | cuz i gotta go soon |
| 06:04:31 | scorche | patience....go to the wiki page PluginMpegplayer |
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| 06:07:01 | tw2113 | brb, restarting since linux doesn't quite like mounting me all the time |
| 06:07:02 | webguest09 | I HAVE TO GO NOW |
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| 06:07:23 | webguest09 | ARG NOW I WILL NEVER NO |
| 06:07:41 | scorche | webguest09: i just gave you the answer...now stop violating the guidelines |
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| 06:07:59 | * | scorche facepalms |
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| 06:10:38 | tw2113 | tada |
| 06:10:41 | tw2113 | i'm back |
| 06:13:12 | tw2113 | quick question, is it better to do command line to extract the firmware? or is GUI copy/paste or extract-to fine? |
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| 06:14:22 | tw2113 | wb scorche |
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| 06:16:17 | tw2113 | ok, last time, i took the build zip file, extracted the files, and copied them onto the ipod |
| 06:16:32 | tw2113 | this time I tried extracting them directly to the ipod |
| 06:17:02 | scorche` | that is still the installing the firmware step....go to the next step which is "installing the bootloader" |
| 06:17:03 | tw2113 | the manual mentions something about a -1 error when starting rockbox |
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| 06:17:30 | tw2113 | technically i did that step as well already, but was going backwards to cover my tracks and double check |
| 06:18:10 | scorche` | if it was going directly to the apple firmware, then you did something on that step incorrectly |
| 06:19:07 | tw2113 | got it this time |
| 06:20:22 | tw2113 | the nice thing is that i'll be able to return to apple boot if needbe |
| 06:20:40 | tw2113 | but i'd like to support ogg |
| 06:20:57 | scorche` | read the FAQ ;) |
| 06:21:21 | tw2113 | i will if the need arises. now to start using this setup :D |
| 06:22:05 | scorche` | (it tells you how to boot back into apple firmware) |
| 06:22:51 | tw2113 | maybe it won't freeze up so much with rockbox |
| 06:23:19 | tw2113 | ooh i like the battery and time left info |
| 06:23:40 | scorche` | dont trust the time left ;) |
| 06:24:20 | tw2113 | percentage good to go though? |
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| 06:32:05 | tw2113 | thanks for the help |
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| 06:41:11 | kohlman | hello |
| 06:41:33 | kohlman | i need some help |
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| 06:43:22 | kohlman | i have an iriver H10 with rockbox installed and I HAVE READ THE MANUAL but still could not find out the format a video needs to be in or how to put it on and where so if anyone could answer it could be great |
| 06:43:43 | scorche | [22:04:23] <scorche> patience....go to the wiki page PluginMpegplayer |
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| 06:44:29 | kohlman | why? |
| 06:45:02 | scorche | because your question is answered there... |
| 06:45:10 | kohlman | ok... |
| 06:45:21 | kohlman | and how to put a backdroup on |
| 06:45:32 | scorche | that is answered in the manual |
| 06:45:37 | kohlman | ok |
| 06:45:49 | jurrie_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
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| 06:46:09 | kohlman | thanks Jurrie! u r great |
| 06:46:47 | kohlman | o do i need to download this or was it included? |
| 06:47:00 | scorche | all plugins are included |
| 06:47:25 | kohlman | so i dont need to download it because i have it included in rockbox? |
| 06:47:32 | scorche | yes |
| 06:47:57 | jurrie | just use Rockbox' Files utility to point to a video file and select it |
| 06:48:10 | kohlman | huh? |
| 06:48:18 | jurrie | the same thing for jpegs, chip-8 files, etc |
| 06:48:30 | kohlman | so no need to downlod anything?? |
| 06:48:48 | kohlman | never mind it says |
| 06:48:49 | scorche | he is saying that you just need to "click" on the file |
| 06:48:55 | kohlman | ok |
| 06:48:59 | kohlman | thanks guys |
| 06:49:36 | kohlman | arg not mpeg-4 |
| 06:50:08 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 06:50:08 | scorche | jurrie: there is no "files utility"...just the file browser.....using the other term can be confusing for people |
| 06:50:29 | kohlman | so how do i put em on? using windows media player to sync or what? |
| 06:50:43 | scorche | just drag and drop like you do anything else |
| 06:51:05 | jurrie | scorche: sorry |
| 06:51:07 | kohlman | ok... |
| 06:51:28 | kohlman | so use windows media playe |
| 06:51:31 | kohlman | ? |
| 06:51:57 | jurrie | probably not... just drag-and-drop, or copy from the command line |
| 06:52:06 | kohlman | ok |
| 06:52:14 | jurrie | place the content anywhere on the player that you like |
| 06:52:17 | kohlman | so like how to put on games |
| 06:52:28 | jurrie | which games? |
| 06:52:36 | kohlman | chip-8 |
| 06:52:39 | jurrie | "native" games are plugins and should already be there |
| 06:52:45 | jurrie | chip-8 can go anywhere as well |
| 06:52:45 | kohlman | yes |
| 06:52:58 | scorche | read the manual and/or the related wiki page about it |
| 06:53:02 | kohlman | ok so i could put it on the root and it would be found |
| 06:53:20 | jurrie | use a file extension of .ch8 to play them by selectig them from teh File Browser |
| 06:53:31 | kohlman | i mean videos |
| 06:53:46 | kohlman | i could put them on the root and i could still play em |
| 06:53:55 | jurrie | theoretically... I wouldn't |
| 06:54:02 | scorche | kohlman: it doesnt need to be found...you just play it |
| 06:54:11 | scorche | please stop repeating questions.. |
| 06:54:27 | kohlman | where do i put the videos then |
| 06:54:35 | scorche | anywhere |
| 06:54:49 | jurrie | most players/people will have separate root directories for music, videos, games, pictures, etc. |
| 06:54:50 | kohlman | do i sync or put it on using UMS trick |
| 06:54:55 | jurrie | just copy them |
| 06:55:00 | kohlman | ok thanks!!! |
| 06:55:05 | scorche | please...if you are going to be asking us questions, *listen to us when we answer you* |
| 06:55:33 | kohlman | THANKS JURRIE.... |
| 06:57:55 | kohlman | not u schorche |
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| 06:59:14 | jurrie | something tells me he'll be back in 15 minutes with the same questions |
| 06:59:51 | scorche | meh...i was going to say something, but it is better to hold one's tongue in some cases |
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| 07:01:13 | scorche | i gave him way more chances with violations than i should have though... |
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| 07:04:29 | jurrie | I know.... sometimes things do appear strict here to newcomers. On the other hand, I prefer the more factual/accurate style required in the forums... things can get out of control quickly if you let things go |
| 07:05:13 | scorche | we have reasons for that though...which is why i say to read the link before speaking...unfortunately, some people just cant be "bothered" to do so |
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| 07:08:39 | jurrie | this was a good week for Rockbox users on Sansa hardware.... I haven't had a single screen meltdown since installing a build from June 6th, radio now works, recording works |
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| 07:32:22 | daniel1234 | I want to write a patch to make the voice read the time remaining under the info screen. What is the best way to do this? |
| 07:34:01 | midkay | daniel1234: i don't know much about the voicing code, but it needs pointing out that you should know how to program in C as well as compile rockbox yourself before you can even get started. |
| 07:34:35 | Slowking_Man | Hmm, the latest H10 build doesn't seem to like vorbis |
| 07:34:37 | daniel1234 | I can compile rockbox but I can't write in c so do you know anywhere I can learn c from? |
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| 07:36:42 | tw2113 | scorche, you there still? |
| 07:36:57 | scorche | i am here and there |
| 07:37:27 | tw2113 | weird issue |
| 07:37:41 | tw2113 | i'm trying to upload ogg files through amarok, and it's saying that it's not supported |
| 07:37:57 | tw2113 | "track not playable on media device" |
| 07:39:02 | scorche | well, that is an amarok issue, and not a rockbox related one...see if there is a way to make it use regular copying instead of "ipod mode" or whatever it is in....i really have no clue about amarok though, and it is better asked somewhere else |
| 07:39:23 | tw2113 | k |
| 07:39:24 | krazykit | tw2113, make sure it's set up as a "generic media device" or whatever amarok is calling it these days |
| 07:39:27 | daniel1234 | I can't build voice files with reed voice from the ibm via voice tts synth it just makes about 420 mp3 files but doesn't make the english.voice file. Ms SAPI5 voices work does anyone know what I should try? |
| 07:40:00 | tw2113 | stale and orphened? |
| 07:41:36 | tw2113 | nevermind |
| 07:41:38 | tw2113 | found it |
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| 07:42:31 | tw2113 | kit, any specific folder to store them? |
| 07:43:02 | tw2113 | or just anywhere on the media |
| 07:43:22 | krazykit | tw2113, no, not really. i always put it in /gigabeat/music |
| 07:43:27 | krazykit | err |
| 07:43:36 | krazykit | whatever your player is instead of /gigabeat, i suppose |
| 07:43:57 | krazykit | but i have a seperate folder for music, playlists, and video |
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| 07:44:49 | tw2113 | well, it'll be a learning process for me i suppose |
| 07:45:09 | krazykit | i've redone my folder structure 3 times so far >_> |
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| 07:55:33 | midkay | sorry, daniel1234, i know very little about voice operation/file building/coding.. and the channel's rather dead at the moment :) |
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| 09:00:48 | SMB-MacMan | hey all |
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| 09:29:17 | jhMikeS | yes and on my way to sleep soon |
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| 10:16:58 | JdGordon | evening/mornin all |
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| 10:25:11 | * | jhMikeS is bugged that he can't make sure that stuck build will be green before bed :\ |
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| 10:27:02 | JdGordon | build dtable still screwed? |
| 10:27:42 | jhMikeS | it's all screwed...what's with all the stuck builds lately? waaay more than normal. |
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| 10:29:00 | austriancoder | jhMikeS: nice work |
| 10:29:27 | jhMikeS | the latest e200 additions? thanks. |
| 10:30:16 | jhMikeS | or the stuck build? :) |
| 10:30:25 | austriancoder | both ;) |
| 10:31:08 | linuxstb | Is the only way to access members of a struct in a .S asm file to hard-code the offsets? |
| 10:32:12 | jhMikeS | afaik ... I never did find any other way but maybe I didn't look hard enough |
| 10:32:40 | linuxstb | I assume the assembler doesn't know C, so would expect there to be no other way. |
| 10:35:39 | jhMikeS | I'm not sure why it couldn't at least parse some declaration which would be a nice feature. |
| 10:39:18 | n1s | jhMikeS: iirc you said sometime that the Tremor coldfire asm macros could be helped a bit by avoiding emac stalls, how would one do that, (I have been looking through the programmers manual and other documentation but haven't found anything) |
| 10:40:36 | jhMikeS | do something useful between a mac and the mov(clr) accx, rx...two instructions or so |
| 10:41:00 | n1s | hmmm, ok, seems simple enough |
| 10:41:08 | n1s | thanks |
| 10:42:15 | jhMikeS | one thing is that it's between the mac and any mov(clr) no matter if the particular accumulator was just used or not |
| 10:43:55 | JdGordon | amiconn: you round? |
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| 10:59:27 | n1s | hmmm, most of these are basically only mac and movclr... ah well lets' test it out :-) |
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| 11:09:13 | * | JdGordon found an interesting bug with the sdcard patch |
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| 11:11:55 | webguest89 | hello! |
| 11:12:44 | jhMikeS | n1s: I think the best route would be to redo mdct.c especially for coldfire which would appear to allow loading and some other stuff to be done inparallel |
| 11:13:44 | n1s | jhMikeS: that is currently way over my head :-) guess I will spend some time with these programming mauals an rainy days during the summer :-) |
| 11:17:22 | webguest89 | hey guys? does one of you is working on the OTGUSB? |
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| 11:20:04 | austriancoder | webguest89: yep... At the moment only usb device.. to access files on pp based targets working |
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| 11:21:56 | JdGordon | anyone have any ideas how to add "d card" supprot to the sim? |
| 11:22:06 | JdGordon | sd card* |
| 11:22:21 | leftright | JdGordon: there's a interesting bug for you #7274 |
| 11:23:51 | JdGordon | me confused.... interesting |
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| 11:25:16 | JdGordon | ok, reads the last comments.. guess we can fix that :p |
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| 11:31:52 | leftright | JdGordon, thanks |
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| 11:36:53 | webguest89 | you know when will the otg be done? |
| 11:39:47 | amiconn | JdGordon: sort of |
| 11:40:30 | JdGordon | amiconn: hey, quick bug again about the sdcard patch.. which part of the mmc cde was being replicated which sint needed? (trying t get it t a commitable state) |
| 11:41:24 | amiconn | On Ondio, the CPU uses (has to use) the spi protocol to access the mmc, while the usb-mmc bridge uses the mmc protocol |
| 11:41:44 | amiconn | A card can be switched from mmc mode to spi mode, but switching back requires a power cycle |
| 11:41:48 | * | JdGordon back in 5 |
| 11:41:58 | JdGordon | soz :) |
| 11:42:10 | amiconn | Since the Ondio has no transistor to cut power, it is required to pull the card when connecting usb |
| 11:42:22 | amiconn | This is the 'Please remove inserted MMC' thing. |
| 11:42:31 | amiconn | I don't think this is necessary on sansa |
| 11:43:01 | amiconn | Once usb is connected, it's possible to put back the mmc |
| 11:43:42 | amiconn | With no mmc plugged, you can access the internal flash of the ondio from pc, plugging an MMC switches to that |
| 11:44:40 | amiconn | Rockbox (and the of) handles hot plug and hot unplug in this case (the pc will 'see' the usb msd vanish for ~0.5 seconds, then reappear with the new volume) |
| 11:45:01 | markun | webguest89: it's impossible to guess |
| 11:45:09 | markun | or estimate |
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| 11:46:00 | kernelsensei | hi |
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| 11:46:42 | markun | n1s: -O3 for Tremor didn't help for ARM based targets? |
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| 11:47:07 | amiconn | markun: It's even slower with -O3 afaiu |
| 11:47:24 | kernelsensei | has the rockbox file (for h300) moved ? I unzipped the archive and I can't find the /rockbox bin |
| 11:47:38 | Grim_Fandango | hello |
| 11:47:57 | markun | kernelsensei: yes, it was moved to .rockbox/ |
| 11:48:09 | n1s | markun: I coudn't concince anyone to test :-) but as amiconn said -O3 tends to be slower at least on PP based players, feel free to test for gigabeat though :-) |
| 11:48:22 | Grim_Fandango | i have a question concerning ipodlinux and rockbox (people over at ipodlinux have the server screwed) |
| 11:48:27 | austriancoder | webguest89: when its done... |
| 11:48:27 | n1s | convince |
| 11:48:32 | amiconn | It's probably a memory bandwidth thing |
| 11:48:36 | kernelsensei | markun: will the bootloader find the file ? What if I have the old rockbox bin in / ? |
| 11:48:50 | amiconn | n1s: Do we have a standard test track now? |
| 11:49:07 | Grim_Fandango | i've installed ipodlinux on my 3rd gen with the installer and i wanted to install rockbox too |
| 11:49:12 | n1s | amiconn: not, that I know of... |
| 11:49:18 | markun | kernelsensei: which player do you have? |
| 11:49:22 | n1s | we really should tho... |
| 11:49:26 | kernelsensei | markun: h340 |
| 11:49:30 | * | amiconn doesn't want to start extensive tests until we have that |
| 11:49:35 | Grim_Fandango | i've found out that i need loader 2.5 because auto-detection doesn't work with 2.4 |
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| 11:49:51 | Grim_Fandango | how can i update to loader 2.5? |
| 11:49:55 | markun | kernelsensei: check if you have the latest bootloader, otherwise it's a good idea to update |
| 11:50:02 | kernelsensei | k |
| 11:50:09 | markun | and it will look for the one in .rockbox/ first |
| 11:50:15 | GodEater_ | lol @ zunelinux post in forums |
| 11:50:23 | markun | so you will have no problems with the file in the root (which you can remove) |
| 11:50:45 | scorche | oh no... |
| 11:51:20 | Grim_Fandango | can anybody help? |
| 11:51:24 | scorche | should we tell him about how amusing we thingk he is? =P |
| 11:51:25 | amiconn | n1s: If we agree on a test track, I intend to run tests on all my targets, trying all formats I can encode to |
| 11:51:34 | GodEater_ | Grim_Fandango: we don't support it here - try #ipodlinux |
| 11:51:43 | Grim_Fandango | i know, but the server is down |
| 11:51:54 | GodEater_ | scorche: I'm trying really hard not to :) |
| 11:51:57 | markun | Grim_Fandango: I have no clue how to install it, sorry |
| 11:52:07 | GodEater_ | Grim_Fandango: so try #ipodlinux |
| 11:52:08 | kernelsensei | markun: I've the version 5 |
| 11:52:16 | amiconn | Are there free encoders for ac3, aac and alac? |
| 11:52:33 | Grim_Fandango | and i think "der papst" made the new loader |
| 11:52:34 | scorche | GodEater: just a subtle "search for zunelinux site:www.rockbox.org/irc" will do =P |
| 11:52:36 | n1s | amiconn, yes, that would be very good, I'll try to have a look for a good track that we can use (i.e. in public domain) next week |
| 11:52:40 | amiconn | kernelsensei: h300 bootloader v5 is new enough |
| 11:52:51 | GodEater_ | scorche: hehehe - it's sooooo tempting |
| 11:53:24 | GodEater_ | didn't Bagder post an offer of help AGES ago on their site that they ignored / ridiculed ? |
| 11:53:56 | markun | GodEater_: same for me and toffe |
| 11:54:03 | markun | and zunepet |
| 11:54:20 | GodEater_ | I shall wait and see who tells him to stuff off first then ;) |
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| 11:55:22 | n1s | amiconn: you can get the itunes encoders free (as in beer) i think (should handle both aac and alac) |
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| 11:55:39 | * | amiconn won't install itunes for sure |
| 11:56:08 | amiconn | Well, at least not directly. Maybe in a vm that can be scrapped afterwards |
| 11:56:13 | kernelsensei | amiconn: The bootloader found the iriver file after a reboot, thanks |
| 11:56:14 | * | JdGordon back |
| 11:56:34 | Grim_Fandango | that's why i like rockbox...the site always works, there is enough documentation do install all things,,,the guys over at ipodlinux seem to be very selfish |
| 11:57:14 | GodEater_ | Grim_Fandango: in that case - stick to using the rockbox bootloader, and ditch loader2, that way you can be guaranteed of support |
| 11:57:15 | JdGordon | amiconn: ok, ta |
| 11:58:05 | n1s | amiconn: apparently there's also the faac encoder, might have the same licensing problems as faad2 though http://www.audiocoding.com/modules/wiki/?page=FAAC |
| 11:58:23 | Grim_Fandango | yeah...but do i have the info to uninstall it? no... |
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| 12:00:55 | JdGordon | amiconn: the sansa sholdnt need the enable_monitoring() stuff then? |
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| 12:01:35 | amiconn | n1s: We also need to agree on some common parameters. My suggestion for the lossy codecs is to have 2 versions of the track: one using the maximum allowed bitrate (or the common supported maximum if there is no defined one), and a common bitrate that roughly equivalent in quality across codecs |
| 12:02:21 | amiconn | For lossless encoders I'd just just maximum compression, unless compression level causes significant differences in decoding speed, like with ape |
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| 12:04:22 | scorche | hehe: http://zune-linux.com/zune.mp3 |
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| 12:05:38 | n1s | amiconn: I agree, that sounds like a good plan |
| 12:09:55 | GodEater_ | Grim_Fandango: you can use ipodpatcher to uninstall loader2 and then to install the rockbox bootloader instead |
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| 12:19:15 | * | linuxstb suspects a batch mode for test_codec would be useful - testing all files in a directory and writing a log file. |
| 12:19:58 | GodEater_ | right - got to pop out, later chaps |
| 12:20:09 | n1s | linuxstb: very :-) |
| 12:20:38 | Grim_Fandango | GodEater: really? does the rockbox ipodpatcher uninstall loader2? |
| 12:21:01 | markun | great podcast :) http://zune-linux.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=107 |
| 12:21:17 | scorche | markun: a but slow =P |
| 12:21:53 | markun | oops |
| 12:22:29 | scorche | that site is such a source of amusement....i spent the last 20 min giggling... |
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| 12:22:48 | linuxstb | amiconn: The Nero AAC encoder is free (as in beer). IIRC, it's just a command-line .exe distributed in a zip, so very unintrusive to install. |
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| 12:24:37 | markun | scorche: well, at least they are past the biggest obstacle: choosing a linux distro |
| 12:24:42 | markun | :) |
| 12:24:44 | scorche | haha |
| 12:25:27 | scorche | apparently sourceforge hasnt been the "developer magnet" they thought it would be...hardly their fault |
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| 12:28:06 | markun | he's looking for about 5 dead zunes to send to various universities so 'they' can crack the encryption for him, right? |
| 12:28:21 | Grim_Fandango | thanks for your help guys |
| 12:28:22 | Grim_Fandango | bye |
| 12:28:46 | linuxstb | markun: Have you heard any news about the Gigabeat S hacking recently? |
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| 12:29:03 | markun | linuxstb: not in the last few days |
| 12:29:03 | JdGordon | markun: no... they are gonna use a wire connction to bypass the encryptio now... |
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| 12:34:28 | markun | JdGordon: what do you mean? |
| 12:34:40 | markun | The JTAG connector? |
| 12:34:54 | JdGordon | that mp3 said they rekon they can bypass the encryption with a wire and 1 or 2 solder joints :) |
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| 12:37:45 | XavierGr | and what about others that will want to try it? (if they ever make it work of course) |
| 12:37:54 | XavierGr | they will have to modify their zune too? |
| 12:38:15 | JdGordon | looks like it |
| 12:38:22 | XavierGr | silly people... |
| 12:38:25 | JdGordon | does anyone take them seriously anymore though? |
| 12:38:53 | XavierGr | no, but it is fun to read what they are talking about |
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| 12:53:23 | merbanan | XavierGr: I like their release plan though -> http://zune-linux.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=94 |
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| 13:02:32 | markun | merbanan: it's good that the first alpha will have a graphical interface! |
| 13:02:45 | markun | are they past the 'pre-alpha' stage yet? |
| 13:03:17 | JdGordon | their svn repo looks good... nothing commited yet :) |
| 13:03:31 | markun | I wonder what stage rockbox is in |
| 13:03:55 | markun | post-alpha I would say |
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| 13:05:33 | markun | JdGordon: don't you hate those 'realists'? http://zune-linux.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=121&pid=1248#pid1248 |
| 13:06:16 | JdGordon | lol |
| 13:06:24 | JdGordon | its all just a scam to make money off dead zunes |
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| 13:46:20 | XavierGr | merbanan: exactly the same thing I said yesterday :P |
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| 14:03:02 | JdGordon | does anyone know where the fat driver actually accesses the disk? |
| 14:03:20 | JdGordon | I tihnik there _may_ be a bug with mappin he volume number to a disk |
| 14:03:45 | God_Eater | *wanders into mid conversion* −− can you see the calls to ata_read / ata_write ? |
| 14:03:59 | JdGordon | thats what im lookin for... |
| 14:04:02 | God_Eater | hehe |
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| 14:04:41 | JdGordon | hmm, ok, may have found it |
| 14:07:14 | God_Eater | I've only just realised I can't spell conversation apparently =/ |
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| 14:08:18 | markun | does anyone know the name of the connector on the non-ZIF HDDs from Toshiba? |
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| 14:08:56 | JdGordon | OK, well, I'm slightly confused... does the rockbox FAT driver only allow one volume to actualy be mounted at any one time? there is a fat_bpb->drive variable which is passed around everywhere, but isonly updated on fat_mount |
| 14:11:02 | * | JdGordon doubts he will get an answer before monday :( |
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| 14:17:18 | JdGordon | amiconn: ping? |
| 14:18:41 | JdGordon | hmm... maybe not |
| 14:18:56 | Domonoky | JdGordon: there is multivolume support in rockbox, so somehow it should be possible to mount 2 volumes :-) |
| 14:19:15 | JdGordon | I know... but on seperate disks.... |
| 14:19:21 | * | JdGordon slowly following the code |
| 14:20:23 | JdGordon | although, it seems to only mount the first on a disk? |
| 14:20:24 | Ave | hi.. I'm getting lots of "usb 4-4: device descriptor read/64, error -71" while inserting ipod nano |
| 14:20:36 | Ave | I thought it was faulty cable so I got a new one but no dice |
| 14:20:42 | Ave | it mounts maybe 1 time out of 20 |
| 14:20:47 | Ave | weird.. |
| 14:21:17 | Ave | anyone seen this happen? |
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| 14:23:20 | Ave | if I boot into apple "firmware" it mounts perfectly every time |
| 14:24:24 | JdGordon | you cant mount the ipod at all if rockbox is running... it reboots into diskmode if you try |
| 14:25:01 | Ave | I can, by holding the "menu" key |
| 14:25:18 | Ave | then the device merely starts to recharge the battery |
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| 14:25:45 | Ave | I mean err, of course I can't mount it, but this is something else al right |
| 14:26:30 | Ave | that aside, I just keep getting those error and it doesnt go into the diskmode |
| 14:26:36 | dionoea | Ave: try rmmod ehci-hcd |
| 14:26:45 | Ave | ehci works for other devices.. |
| 14:27:01 | dionoea | it doesn't always work for me with the ipod in recovery mode |
| 14:27:02 | Ave | maybe rockbox-side ehci is buddy? |
| 14:27:07 | dionoea | (on one of my laptops) |
| 14:27:07 | Ave | buggy even |
| 14:27:19 | dionoea | rockbox doesn't have any usb support yet on iPods |
| 14:27:22 | dionoea | so it can't be buggy |
| 14:27:26 | Ave | Jun 9 15:24:28 localhost kernel: [71836.576000] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 81 |
| 14:27:30 | Ave | says apple |
| 14:27:50 | dionoea | that's not in recovery mode is it ? |
| 14:27:59 | Ave | no its running the regular ipod interface |
| 14:28:10 | dionoea | ok, then what i said still holds then |
| 14:28:12 | Ave | I'm trying new svn rockbox version for kicks |
| 14:28:36 | Ave | how does rb detect usb connect? |
| 14:29:14 | dionoea | I don't know ... but it shouldn't detect any usb connection on your computer until rockbox triggers a reboot into the recovery mode |
| 14:29:49 | Ave | which you can avoid by pressing the menu while connecting cable |
| 14:30:43 | Ave | you see, my battery was running flat and I thought I'll do just that and keep listening while it recharges, but lo and behold, after ~20 seconds or so it suddendly jumps into diskmode without me touching anything |
| 14:31:02 | Ave | its like the kernel keeps trying to probe the usb bus due to these errors and finally gets thru or something |
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| 14:40:45 | JdGordon | XavierGr: you have an ondio dont you? |
| 14:46:24 | Ave | ok I think I get it.. when I plug in the device, kernel tries to talk with the device, but it doesnt work until ipod boots into diskmode |
| 14:46:56 | Ave | and for SOME reason, if I supress the diskmode boot with menu key, kernel keeps resetting the usb bus or something until the device eventually plops into diskmode |
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| 14:48:28 | leftright | the build table has stalled, anyone care to give it a bump |
| 14:50:10 | leftright | are the downloads current irrespective of the build table ?. |
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| 14:50:39 | JdGordon | no |
| 14:51:07 | JdGordon | only Bagder linusN and zagor can kick the build server :( |
| 14:51:11 | JdGordon | and they arnt around |
| 14:51:12 | amiconn | JdGordon: Rockbox does support multiple volumes if enabled in the config. And they don't need to be located on different drives; multivolume support was tested on a hdd with multiple partitions |
| 14:51:16 | austriancoder | how can i register an irq handler for a device? |
| 14:51:35 | leftright | thanks |
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| 14:52:04 | JdGordon | amiconn: yeah, I got confused by the code, I understand the volume->drive mappin now... still ver lost as to my bug |
| 14:52:11 | JdGordon | have you got an ondio + mmc handy? |
| 14:52:35 | JdGordon | austriancoder: its very simple :) the button code is a good enough example |
| 14:53:05 | JdGordon | if you have jhMikeS around to slap you into the right direction its a bonus :) |
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| 14:54:17 | austriancoder | JdGordon: simple... hmmm.. but will ask jsMikeS |
| 14:54:24 | austriancoder | jhMikeS: ping |
| 14:54:30 | JdGordon | he's asleep i tihnk |
| 14:54:44 | JdGordon | I can try to help.. I got em working on friday |
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| 14:55:45 | JdGordon | austriancoder: just registering the handler? or setting up the irq for a set of bits? |
| 14:57:35 | austriancoder | JdGordon: at the moment i am looking how to check if sansas usb chip has "send" an interrupt |
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| 14:58:50 | JdGordon | this is what was needed to get the irq goin for the sd card... http://pastebin.ca/552752 it shuold be simple enough to copy |
| 14:59:23 | JdGordon | just make sure you change the GPIO port t the right one :p /me forgot a few times ... |
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| 15:05:14 | austriancoder | JdGordon: Will try it.. |
| 15:05:28 | * | JdGordon not going anywhere for a while if you get stuck |
| 15:10:53 | JdGordon | ft_load() is called 3 times when "files" is enetered the first time after a boot! |
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| 15:17:51 | * | JdGordon found a _big_ file tree bug! |
| 15:18:10 | JdGordon | hmm... or not |
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| 15:19:09 | jac0b | I can't get the bookmark feature to work on the sansa but it works in the sim |
| 15:20:10 | jac0b | anyone else having this problem? |
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| 15:21:53 | JdGordon | jac0b: not work as in the item isnt in the menu? |
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| 15:25:14 | jac0b | no its there but when you press the select button to create the bookmark nothing happens |
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| 15:25:57 | PaulJam_ | JdGordon: concerning FS #7274, are you sure this is fixed? at least in the h300 uisim it is still reproduceable. |
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| 15:27:19 | JdGordon | :'( really? |
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| 15:27:41 | Cillian | Anybody know the spec of the .bmark file format? I.e. how to interpret it? |
| 15:27:49 | JdGordon | I was working off the e200 sim and it was definalty working |
| 15:29:11 | jac0b | jdgordon: did you try it on the sansa? |
| 15:29:35 | JdGordon | jac0b: no, my sansa is bus atm.. im pretty sure select is not the button to crate bmrks though |
| 15:30:21 | jac0b | the middle button is not the button to create bookmarks? |
| 15:30:29 | jac0b | which is it then |
| 15:30:44 | Cillian | You hold select, then go to bookmarks, then create |
| 15:30:46 | Cillian | On the ipod, anyway |
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| 15:32:33 | jac0b | I just tried every button to create a bookmark and still nothing |
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| 15:34:34 | Soap | <amiconn> For lossless encoders I'd just just maximum compression, unless compression level causes significant differences in decoding speed, like with ape |
| 15:35:24 | Soap | The issue there, is that people use APE mostly because it compacts tighter than FLAC. So APE's maximum compression level is what is seen most often in the real-world. |
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| 15:37:22 | webguest92 | hey guys, i thnik ive found a bug on the sansa, i checked FS but couldnt find it |
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| 15:38:07 | webguest92 | anyone..... |
| 15:38:52 | JdGordon | welll spit it out....! |
| 15:39:38 | webguest92 | when i use oscilloscope |
| 15:39:55 | webguest92 | and swtich back to the main menu i get all junk or sometimes menu entries missing |
| 15:40:09 | webguest92 | once i got this whole page of greek letters |
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| 15:42:43 | Cillian | webguest92: I assume there is a buffer overflow of some kind going on |
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| 15:43:28 | webguest92 | kk i dont have a FS account, so can someone report it for me? |
| 15:43:58 | TrueJournals | Why not just create a FS account? |
| 15:44:08 | webguest92 | im busy playing halo lol |
| 15:44:26 | Soap | and so Rome fell. |
| 15:44:48 | webguest92 | lol |
| 15:45:15 | webguest92 | erm why cant i use /nick?? |
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| 15:47:24 | TrueJournals | Perhaps because the nick you want is already taken... |
| 15:48:05 | webguest92 | nope crash doesnt seem to be in use, its only crashd |
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| 15:49:02 | TrueJournals | Only crash d is in our channel... crash just isn't in this channel, still in use though |
| 15:49:11 | webguest92 | aah ok |
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| 15:49:23 | evilcrash | better |
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| 15:55:41 | webguest80 | Where can I download a simulator for a H10? |
| 15:56:04 | TrueJournals | rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
| 15:56:16 | webguest80 | OK Thanks! |
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| 16:07:12 | * | JdGordon slowly narrowing down a FAT bug :'( |
| 16:09:21 | * | chrisjs169 can't stand the latest build source not being up for the past 12 hours |
| 16:09:37 | JdGordon | svn update ? |
| 16:10:09 | chrisjs169 | I could |
| 16:11:13 | chrisjs169 | if i use SVN, and patch a file, would i need to repatch it the next time I do svn up? |
| 16:12:18 | Soap | if said file was changed |
| 16:12:33 | chrisjs169 | ok |
| 16:12:53 | thegeek | I thought svn would try to merge? |
| 16:13:42 | JdGordon | it will |
| 16:13:52 | JdGordon | unless there is a conflict |
| 16:13:57 | thegeek | mhm |
| 16:14:37 | * | JdGordon havin a painful time trying to debug with dumping to the lcd :'( |
| 16:15:19 | chrisjs169 | so if the said patched file did get updated in svn, it'd most likely just get merged? |
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| 16:15:41 | JdGordon | yes, unless both update the same few lines of code |
| 16:15:48 | JdGordon | then there will be a conflict, but it will show you |
| 16:16:24 | Soap | perhaps my method of revert/up/repatch is wasteful? |
| 16:18:06 | JdGordon | a bit... |
| 16:19:44 | chrisjs169 | hmm |
| 16:19:57 | * | chrisjs169 is interested in using SVN now |
| 16:20:28 | Soap | when SVN merges in such a situation, can I assume it's using the same "logic" as the patch command? That the results of my method are likely to be identical to the results of just doing an up? |
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| 16:24:09 | chrisjs169 | wow...if rockbox seriously ~100 megs uncompressed (when not using SVN, only the rockbox bleeding source) |
| 16:24:23 | JdGordon | Soap: yep |
| 16:24:38 | JdGordon | if there is a conflict you will notice very quickly when you try compiling |
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| 16:24:50 | JdGordon | you will get a funny error something like "syntax error: ====" |
| 16:25:06 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: 30mb... svn uses 60 |
| 16:25:47 | chrisjs169 | then why is du -h ./ saying 176M? |
| 16:25:54 | * | JdGordon 's rockbox folder is 621MB! |
| 16:26:04 | JdGordon | because you probaly have compiled builds there |
| 16:26:16 | JdGordon | lots of files gcc creates |
| 16:27:03 | JdGordon | ah, manual/ is 25mb alone! |
| 16:27:44 | chrisjs169 | no...I just downloaded the source into a new dir |
| 16:27:46 | JdGordon | /2 for the .svn folder |
| 16:28:10 | chrisjs169 | ah, that explains it |
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| 16:34:48 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hey guys, how's your Creative support? |
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| 16:35:02 | linuxstb | Non-existent. |
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| 16:35:08 | Dark_Apostrophe | Damn. |
| 16:36:00 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: Bad connection? :P |
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| 16:36:46 | linuxstb | Soap: What makes you think APE's maximum compression (aka "insane" mode) is the most commonly used? In my (albeit limited) tests, there isn't very much difference in filesize between the higher compression modes, but a huge difference in decoding (and I would guess encoding) speed. If I was to use APE, I don't think I would choose the maximum. |
| 16:36:47 | krazykit | Dark_Apostrophe, all the targets supported are on the wiki |
| 16:37:06 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok |
| 16:37:25 | Soap | linuxstb: only based upon the format discussions/arguments on HydrogenAudio. |
| 16:38:05 | Soap | The "defenders" of APE in the APE vs FLAC debate are always holding up its superior compression when at max. |
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| 16:38:11 | JdGordon | linuxstb: how does ape compare to flac filesize wise? |
| 16:38:48 | linuxstb | I made various encodings of a track here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/ape.txt |
| 16:38:50 | maffe | Dark_Apostrophe: I checked another computer with my energy meter. I forgot that my router was also connected to it. |
| 16:39:15 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: Ok |
| 16:39:26 | linuxstb | (it's only one track, so of course may not be representative) |
| 16:39:27 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: Are you norwegian? (Based on your hostname) |
| 16:39:37 | maffe | Nope |
| 16:39:50 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok |
| 16:39:54 | maffe | I use a norwegian Jabber<->IRC transport |
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| 16:40:09 | maffe | I'm from Germany |
| 16:40:29 | Soap | so, linuxstb, I don't have a single bit of evidence outside the anecdotal |
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| 16:41:03 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: Ok |
| 16:41:11 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: Why not just use a regular IRC client? |
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| 16:44:13 | maffe | Dark_Apostrophe: I use Miranda, and the IRC plugin for Quakenet. In theory, it should be possible to copy the IRC dll to use another network. But when I tried that, there were some settings in the two DLLs interfering with each other :| |
| 16:45:03 | JdGordon | maffe: 2 dlls dont wrk anymore? bummer... |
| 16:45:21 | JdGordon | visit #miranda-im on freenode... they'll help you out |
| 16:45:28 | * | JdGordon longs for miranda on linux |
| 16:45:41 | JdGordon | #miranda even |
| 16:45:49 | linuxstb | Soap: I'm thinking that for the set of distributed test tracks, I would just pick a middle compression level for each of the lossless codecs (maybe whatever the default settings are). People can always do their own encodings if they want to test how encoder settings affect a particular codec. |
| 16:46:22 | Soap | aye - default compression level for lossless makes the most sense. |
| 16:46:52 | Soap | I'll almost finished with my "meta track". a mixture of "rock", country, classical, dance, etc. |
| 16:47:26 | Soap | I've been amazingly busy with physical-world life...I apologise for the delay. |
| 16:48:49 | maffe | JdGordon: Maybe it works with the current version (which I have), but I don't really care since the Jabber transport satisfies me |
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| 16:50:48 | JdGordon | linuxstb: have you seen 7276? resume for mpegplayer..? |
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| 16:51:50 | JdGordon | except his patch stll has some garbage i it |
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| 16:54:15 | chrisjs169 | yeah, i noticed three hunks of nothing |
| 16:56:46 | Nico_P | wow the Zune Linux founder *himself* posted on the rockbox forum to suggest we wrok with them ^^ |
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| 16:58:08 | JdGordon | I saw! so maybe they were genuiune? |
| 16:58:58 | Thundercloud_ | Nice |
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| 17:00:30 | Dark_Apostrophe | maffe: http://kopete.kde.org/ |
| 17:01:05 | Soap | I'm very happily suprised the Zune Linux thread hasn't turned into a Zune Linux bash thread. |
| 17:01:08 | * | Nico_P is listening to the zune linux "podcast"... the guy his so convincing !! |
| 17:01:21 | Dark_Apostrophe | Zune Linux? |
| 17:01:26 | Dark_Apostrophe | People actually buy Zune? |
| 17:01:29 | Nico_P | I think I'm going to buy a zune and break it to send it to him |
| 17:02:10 | Dark_Apostrophe | I'm a Microsoft hater. :) |
| 17:04:24 | maffe | Dark_Apostrophe: I think I'll continue using Miranda (Windows) and Gajim (Linux) :) |
| 17:04:26 | Soap | though, Zune-Linux could get (just a little bit) more respect if their forum mods didn't openly discuss the usage of copyright-violating bittorrent trackers. |
| 17:06:30 | Domonoky_ | are any blind rockbox users here ? i would be interested how accessible rbutil is for the blinds.. |
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| 17:21:28 | jac0b | did anyone look at the bookmark bug? |
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| 17:58:16 | Soap | is someone with an iPod 5th gen willing to spot-check one or two of my Mpegplayer fps numbers in the performance area of the wiki page? |
| 17:58:42 | Soap | I'm not seeing nearly the improvement on my 5th gen I saw earlier on my Nano... |
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| 17:59:59 | Soap | (not seeing a real improvement at all)...perhaps the Nano numbers were older than I thought... |
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| 18:01:16 | Llorean | The nano numbers were quite old. I think, immediately after sound support was added even, maybe. |
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| 18:40:10 | chrisjs169 | This isn't really Rockbox related (well, sorta is) but how would I be able to have 'svn up' run on my computer every time something changes in SVN? |
| 18:47:11 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: what I can suggest is a mail filter that executes a script when you get a mail from the rockbox-cvs ML |
| 18:47:33 | Nico_P | I could quite easily set this up in KMail... don't know about other mail clients though |
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| 18:50:00 | XavierGr | JdGordon: yes I have an ondio (though on my car can't test right now) tell me what you want me to test for you and I will try to do it as soon as possible |
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| 18:50:07 | chrisjs169 | Ni |
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| 18:50:40 | chrisjs169 | Nico_P: I've got KMail installed, but never used it before |
| 18:50:52 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: what mail client do you use ?* |
| 18:51:39 | chrisjs169 | I mainly just use webmail (RoundCube) since it just seems easier, but I wouldn't mind using KMail |
| 18:52:45 | Nico_P | well you'd just need to subscribe to the rockbox-cvs ML, set up KMail for your mail account and add a filter in it |
| 18:53:05 | chrisjs169 | ok |
| 18:53:55 | Nico_P | also you'd need to write a small script that does svn up in your local copy dir |
| 18:54:05 | Nico_P | if you need help, ask me ;) |
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| 18:54:57 | chrisjs169 | ok :) |
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| 19:04:57 | chrisjs169 | lol - "Use an account from a more intelligent company" |
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| 19:08:21 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: where did you get that ? |
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| 19:08:38 | poksdfpos | hello, I need help with my rockbox |
| 19:08:48 | poksdfpos | I want to search in my native language and I have no idea how to do that |
| 19:08:49 | chrisjs169 | that notice about Verizon on http://www.rockbox.org/mail/ |
| 19:09:16 | Nico_P | oh yes |
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| 19:10:24 | n1s | poksdfpos: take a look here to learn how to make a custom keyboard (which is used to enter search terms) http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts |
| 19:10:30 | chrisjs169 | hmm....how could i set this filter to run in the background? |
| 19:11:38 | poksdfpos | n1s, if i define the keyboard with one language does that mean i can no longer searchi n englih? |
| 19:11:41 | poksdfpos | in english* |
| 19:12:19 | n1s | poksdfpos: you can have any unicode characters in your keyboard, or save several custom ones and switch |
| 19:13:36 | poksdfpos | may i have an example of a .kbd file? |
| 19:13:44 | poksdfpos | maybe the .kbd file that is already in the rockbox...? |
| 19:14:16 | n1s | poksdfpos: that one is compiled in, but the page I linked describes it pretty well, also there's an example at the bottom |
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| 19:15:09 | poksdfpos | I don't get it |
| 19:15:16 | poksdfpos | why does the file down looks wierd |
| 19:15:21 | poksdfpos | it doesn't look like a keyboard layout |
| 19:16:24 | n1s | poksdfpos: the opti2.kbd file on that page is indeed a rockbox keyboard layout |
| 19:17:03 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: it'll filter every mail you get |
| 19:17:04 | poksdfpos | it makes no sense, there aren't any weird characters |
| 19:17:10 | poksdfpos | like there's on the regular rockbox keboard |
| 19:17:15 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: you want to have you inbox checked every now and then |
| 19:17:32 | chrisjs169 | hmm |
| 19:17:42 | Nico_P | every time a mail matches the filter, the command you set will be run |
| 19:17:55 | chrisjs169 | ok |
| 19:18:03 | Nico_P | the filter editor is quite self explanatory IMHO |
| 19:18:19 | poksdfpos | ok so where should i add the other language in the opti2.kbd? |
| 19:18:33 | n1s | poksdfpos: it's an _example_ it doesn't include everything, just add what you want to a regular text file, save it as .kbd and klick it in the rockbox file browser |
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| 19:18:55 | poksdfpos | oh |
| 19:18:59 | poksdfpos | so what i'll be running |
| 19:19:03 | poksdfpos | will be an addition to the keyboard |
| 19:19:04 | poksdfpos | not instead |
| 19:19:06 | poksdfpos | right? |
| 19:19:24 | Nico_P | chrisjs169: the filer you want here is "List-Id", "contains" (or its equivalent), and "<rockbox-cvs.cool.haxx.se>" |
| 19:19:53 | n1s | poksdfpos: whatever you put in your .kbd file will replace the built in keyboard |
| 19:20:01 | poksdfpos | exactly |
| 19:20:05 | chrisjs169 | ok |
| 19:20:12 | poksdfpos | so I want it to be the opti2 + another language |
| 19:20:21 | poksdfpos | if i put the other language in the end of the file will it work? |
| 19:20:27 | n1s | for example yes |
| 19:20:34 | poksdfpos | yey :) |
| 19:20:40 | poksdfpos | thank you very much, i'll give it a shot |
| 19:20:42 | n1s | then your new language will be at the lower half of the keyboard |
| 19:20:47 | n1s | do so :-) |
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| 19:49:29 | poksdfpos | hi |
| 19:49:32 | poksdfpos | hmm i built a .kbd file |
| 19:49:48 | poksdfpos | and it doesn't work |
| 19:49:50 | poksdfpos | :| |
| 19:49:55 | poksdfpos | what should i do? |
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| 19:51:21 | poksdfpos | anyone? |
| 19:51:25 | poksdfpos | help? |
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| 19:53:01 | frizille | hello |
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| 19:54:22 | BoD[] | Hello, world! |
| 19:54:37 | frizille | hello |
| 19:54:53 | poksdfpos | help? |
| 19:55:22 | frizille | no idea poks |
| 19:56:25 | PaulJam | "it doesn't work" isn't a very exact description of your problem. what happens if you try to loat the .kbd file? |
| 19:56:26 | frizille | i've got an ipod 80gb question if anyone knows anything about em |
| 19:56:29 | BoD[] | Hey ... Does anybody know if it's normal that if I plug to my pc my ipod (video) when it's off, then rockbox hangs and windows doesn't recognize it. But if I turn on the ipod first, wait for rockbox to load, and THEN plug it, then it works ok. Is it a known problem? |
| 19:57:09 | poksdfpos | OH |
| 19:57:12 | poksdfpos | sorry for the delay |
| 19:57:36 | poksdfpos | PaulJam, I ran the file, it says loading and then I went to the search and there wasn't any hebrew =\ |
| 19:58:08 | PaulJam | but did the keyboard layout change? |
| 19:59:31 | poksdfpos | nope |
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| 20:00:26 | PaulJam | could you upload the .kbd file somewhere? |
| 20:00:40 | poksdfpos | i could send you via dcc |
| 20:00:42 | poksdfpos | is that ok? |
| 20:01:24 | frizille | for the 80gb ipod video 5.5 - does the new bootloader fix get things running enough to make it usable or is the FAT fix gotta be done first? |
| 20:01:49 | poksdfpos | can you say slow upload? |
| 20:01:55 | poksdfpos | damn |
| 20:02:42 | poksdfpos | http://uploadplus.com/quickupload/683.kbd?download |
| 20:02:52 | poksdfpos | PaulJam, this is better |
| 20:03:21 | poksdfpos | ...? |
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| 20:04:04 | PaulJam | have a little patience |
| 20:04:14 | linuxstb | frizille: I don't understand your question. The current bootloader and current Rockbox work fine on the 80GB. |
| 20:04:33 | poksdfpos | alright |
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| 20:04:45 | poksdfpos | sorry for being inpatient.. |
| 20:05:12 | frizille | ok, cool. have been waiting on the 80gb patch thing - here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7738.75 |
| 20:05:28 | frizille | read the patch notes but mentioned this: |
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| 20:05:41 | frizille | Here is the first patch for the ATA driver and the disk partition code for the iPod 5.5G 80Gbyte version. The ATA driver can find out the logical and physical sector size, and disk_init can find the partition correctly. It can not yet mount the filesystem. |
| 20:05:46 | PaulJam | poksdfpos: it looks as if the file isn't saved as unicode |
| 20:06:05 | frizille | looked like they had the bootloader working but were doingmore work on the FS |
| 20:06:21 | frizille | wasnt sure if they had it working enough to use with the current filesystem |
| 20:06:59 | poksdfpos | oh |
| 20:07:02 | poksdfpos | maybe... |
| 20:07:39 | poksdfpos | i'll try again... |
| 20:09:40 | poksdfpos | wow it worked |
| 20:09:44 | poksdfpos | however the layout is stupid |
| 20:10:13 | poksdfpos | and the language is backwords |
| 20:10:26 | poksdfpos | as in, if i search in hebrew the word is backwords =\ |
| 20:11:19 | poksdfpos | it searches the right word |
| 20:11:25 | poksdfpos | but it writes it backwords |
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| 20:12:33 | linuxstb | frizille: Just read the front page of the website, including the News section and the list of supported devices. |
| 20:13:33 | frizille | damn... i feel retarded |
| 20:13:51 | frizille | skipped right past it and went to the forum i had bookmarked |
| 20:14:01 | frizille | thank you sir |
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| 20:14:56 | pixie | When I boot my iPod with cable, it shows a triangle with an '!' in it, and gets an image of a battery with a lightning bolt through it shortly after, refuses to boot |
| 20:15:12 | pixie | either that, or it boots rockbox and doesen't charge it, just shows a picture of a usb cable, and reboots shortly after |
| 20:15:18 | pixie | Without the cable it boots fine |
| 20:15:24 | pixie | Any ideas? |
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| 20:16:54 | pixie | OH yay, 50 reboots later and it works. |
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| 20:19:23 | gfather | wassup guys |
| 20:19:30 | gfather | i solved my problem |
| 20:19:34 | gfather | and made it work |
| 20:19:49 | gfather | but i have a new problem |
| 20:19:58 | poksdfpos | lol |
| 20:20:04 | gfather | :) |
| 20:20:08 | gfather | i have itrip |
| 20:20:14 | gfather | and its not working with it |
| 20:20:23 | gfather | how can i make it work |
| 20:20:38 | gfather | its a small device that will trnsmit it to radio |
| 20:20:44 | gfather | :) |
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| 20:22:33 | gfather | so , what i have to do |
| 20:22:34 | gfather | ? |
| 20:22:57 | jhMikeS | noone's been around to kick the build server _yet_? or is my browser hallucinating? |
| 20:23:55 | krazykit | gfather, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories has a list of what works |
| 20:24:59 | gfather | oks |
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| 20:31:35 | Soap | it's a work in progress, gfather. |
| 20:32:11 | Soap | If your model of iTrip (it really a generic product _line_ name) isn't listed, I'd greatly appreciate the info so that the wiki can be added to. |
| 20:32:22 | Soap | *it's |
| 20:33:51 | gfather | well im trying to figure out if my moddel is supported or not |
| 20:33:54 | gfather | :) |
| 20:34:30 | gfather | http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-9781-TRP30BK-Transmitter-Connector/dp/B000CSP8IO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-0709413-2822049?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1181413784&sr=8-2 |
| 20:34:39 | gfather | pleas chek it out |
| 20:36:22 | gfather | is it supported |
| 20:36:22 | gfather | ? |
| 20:36:47 | Soap | you can read the wiki as well as I. Is it listed? |
| 20:37:00 | gfather | i just read it |
| 20:37:13 | gfather | the modles is not listed exactly |
| 20:37:36 | gfather | no serials like TRP30BK iTrip |
| 20:38:40 | gfather | can i make it work , or i have to wait ? |
| 20:38:46 | gfather | cant i do anything |
| 20:38:47 | Soap | If I Recall Correctly I had added photos of all the iTrip models on that wiki page |
| 20:38:47 | gfather | ? |
| 20:39:53 | gfather | no , not listed |
| 20:40:18 | gfather | its like the iTrip Dock |
| 20:40:38 | gfather | but its black and have other serial |
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| 20:41:23 | Soap | I don't think case colour makes a difference. ;) |
| 20:41:37 | Soap | and the numbers currently in the wiki are most likely FCC ID numbers. |
| 20:41:52 | gfather | so :) , im doomed |
| 20:41:58 | Soap | the more I look, the more I'm positive the model you have is the iTrip dock. |
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| 20:42:41 | gfather | can i do anything to make it work |
| 20:42:43 | gfather | ? |
| 20:42:45 | gfather | |:) |
| 20:43:55 | Soap | there is an ugly hack out there for one of the dock-connecting FM transmitters. |
| 20:44:03 | Soap | I don't recall which one, google might. |
| 20:46:54 | gfather | http://pijulius.blogspot.com/2006/05/rockbox-itrip-and-ipod.html |
| 20:47:17 | gfather | that one , he connect wires to it , and make another power supply |
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| 20:47:55 | gfather | or the hack is another one |
| 20:47:57 | gfather | ? |
| 20:48:47 | Soap | that one |
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| 20:51:27 | gfather | can i use a usb ligher |
| 20:51:31 | gfather | lighter |
| 20:51:32 | gfather | ?? |
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| 20:52:02 | Soap | not sure what that is |
| 20:52:14 | gfather | the i trip has a samll usb |
| 20:52:46 | gfather | i get i lighter powersupply ., the one used in cares , and connected throught usb to the itrip |
| 20:53:13 | gfather | to give it power supply , as the hack need another source of power supply |
| 20:53:37 | gfather | thats will be better , right |
| 20:53:38 | gfather | ? |
| 20:53:46 | Soap | I'm not familiar with the details of the hack. |
| 20:54:42 | gfather | ;( |
| 20:56:18 | Soap | reading the link you posted above - an external USB power source is not in and of itself the whole solution. |
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| 20:57:19 | SliMM | llorean: are you there? |
| 20:58:04 | SliMM | i guess he isn't :) |
| 20:58:04 | * | Soap doesn't see LL in the user list −−−−−−> |
| 20:58:32 | SliMM | How can i get an artist badge? |
| 20:58:57 | SliMM | i've posted a theme to thewiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#BlurPod |
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| 20:59:16 | Soap | gfather: are you FrankieF? |
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| 21:00:16 | gfather | no |
| 21:00:17 | SliMM | Soap: can you certify my theme please? :) |
| 21:00:20 | gfather | looool |
| 21:00:35 | gfather | frankief ? ? loool |
| 21:01:16 | Soap | gfather: he was asking about the exact same model iTrip today as well. |
| 21:02:48 | SliMM | soap: please? :) |
| 21:03:20 | Soap | SliMM: the "seal of approval" isn't finalized yet - give it 10 more days. |
| 21:03:40 | Soap | is the backdrop image unencumbered by copyright? |
| 21:03:53 | Soap | and under what license are you releasing the WPS? |
| 21:04:07 | SliMM | GPL |
| 21:04:14 | SliMM | the bg is gpl |
| 21:04:23 | Soap | (just a few things which will need to be clear for the SoAp) :) |
| 21:04:24 | gfather | ahh ok , well i think its a model that is good to have it support becouse allot of people have it |
| 21:05:19 | Soap | gfather: it is not that simple. An iPod serial protocol would need to be written and commited to Rockbox, and then the relevant commands to turn on said iTrip would need to be discovered. |
| 21:05:21 | SliMM | should i specify that in the wiki? |
| 21:05:58 | Soap | SliMM: theme guidelines are on the agenda to be discussed next weekend... |
| 21:06:39 | SliMM | Soap: ok, should i ask llorean for a badge, or is it more to do for one? |
| 21:06:43 | gfather | well it is simpler than doing the whole rockbox project right |
| 21:07:07 | Soap | SliMM: yea, the Artist Badge is a seperate thing - looks like you qualify, IIRC. |
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| 21:07:23 | gfather | can u extract the protocole as it is , and just add it to rockbox |
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| 21:07:57 | SliMM | soap: coding badge it's far more difficult to get |
| 21:08:03 | Soap | gfather: that is correct. Most likely implementing the serial protocol on iPods will take less hours than the Rockbox project has taken up to this point. |
| 21:08:09 | SliMM | maybe i'll get one after i finish cubis |
| 21:08:15 | Soap | cubis? |
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| 21:08:23 | SliMM | yes |
| 21:08:26 | Soap | gfather: extract it from where? |
| 21:08:30 | SliMM | yes |
| 21:08:33 | SliMM | cubis |
| 21:08:45 | Soap | ok, let me rephrase SliMM. What is cubis? |
| 21:08:55 | SliMM | a game :)) |
| 21:09:14 | Soap | Qbert? |
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| 21:09:43 | gfather | from the ipod |
| 21:09:46 | gfather | :) |
| 21:09:54 | Soap | and, for future reference, SliMM. Do you see in your WPS wiki entry how "BlurPod" is highlighted and followed with a question mark? |
| 21:09:56 | gfather | from the apple software |
| 21:10:08 | SliMM | yes |
| 21:10:16 | SliMM | what does that mean? |
| 21:10:25 | Soap | this is because the wiki software thinks any word with TwoCaps is a "WikiWord" and tries to make it a link. |
| 21:10:59 | Soap | you can tell TWiki that "BlurPod" is not a wiki word, so it doesn't try to auto link it, by preceding it with an ! |
| 21:11:12 | Soap | the ! won't be visible in normal view. |
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| 21:11:30 | Soap | so "BlurPod" gets replaced with "!BlurPod" |
| 21:12:26 | frizille | question for the group: what do you guys like to use to transfer stuf to rockbox? |
| 21:12:50 | SliMM | i must go now |
| 21:12:58 | Soap | the file browser. (Windows Explorer, etc.) |
| 21:13:02 | SliMM | could you please do that for me? :) |
| 21:13:15 | Soap | yes SliMM. |
| 21:13:23 | SliMM | thanks |
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| 21:13:45 | Soap | frizille: though sometimes I use Foobar2000 if I am transfering lots of folders and I want to auto-rename during transfer. |
| 21:14:05 | frizille | anyone use winamp? trying to find a good app to keep stuff organized |
| 21:14:23 | frizille | thx soap, i'll check it out |
| 21:14:40 | SliMM | soap: when will something like scrolling margins will be in the svn? |
| 21:15:16 | Soap | SliMM: do not know. |
| 21:15:48 | Soap | I don't know if that is going to wait until/be solved by Viewports, or if it has a chance to be added earlier. |
| 21:15:49 | SliMM | tried to use images, but it didn't fully work (without %s works fine) |
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| 21:16:07 | SliMM | viewports sound great |
| 21:16:14 | SliMM | bye now |
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| 21:16:44 | gfather | guys how can i boot to normal ? |
| 21:20:02 | gfather | how can i reboot to apple |
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| 21:22:34 | gfather | really guys |
| 21:22:38 | gfather | i dont know how |
| 21:23:39 | Soap | long hold of play to shutdown Rockbox |
| 21:23:43 | Soap | Select to power back on |
| 21:24:04 | Soap | as soon as you power on (see the apple logo) switch the hold switch to the "on" (red) position. |
| 21:26:39 | gfather | thanks allot man |
| 21:26:41 | gfather | :) |
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| 21:43:54 | webguest63 | hello, need help...is it possible to autostart a music file when turning on the ipod? |
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| 21:48:18 | Robin0800 | yes |
| 21:49:32 | XavierGr | I love rockboxdev.sh, thanks Bagder or who helped into making it :) |
| 21:49:35 | Robin0800 | see bookmarks |
| 21:49:47 | XavierGr | (I hope that it will compile all crosscompilers without a hitch) |
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| 22:04:25 | * | petur discovers his ISP is finally considering increasing upload speed - about time |
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| 22:08:55 | gandhijee | hey guys, where can i a find a list of features that rockbox supports on my player? |
| 22:09:05 | petur | wiki |
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| 22:09:43 | petur | and the manual of course |
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| 22:10:19 | petur | gandhijee: what player? |
| 22:10:26 | gandhijee | 3rd gen iPOd |
| 22:10:41 | toffe82 | XavierGr: on ubuntu 7.04 , it is missing build-essentials to build the cross compiler |
| 22:10:44 | gandhijee | i can't seem to find a nice comprehensive list |
| 22:10:58 | petur | not as good as the others, audio may not all be ok |
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| 22:11:37 | gandhijee | =( |
| 22:11:50 | gandhijee | guess i will have to use the other firmware |
| 22:12:29 | petur | gandhijee: you can always try and go back if not ok |
| 22:13:11 | petur | gandhijee: I think some audio formats play, others may skip |
| 22:13:52 | petur | gandhijee: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus |
| 22:13:59 | gandhijee | i am most concerned about FLAC |
| 22:14:00 | gandhijee | thanks |
| 22:14:09 | XavierGr | toffe: compiling on a clean debian stable distro |
| 22:14:18 | petur | lucky you, FLAC seems to work |
| 22:14:41 | petur | (FLAC seems to be the only one working ok on 3rd gen ipoo |
| 22:15:22 | gandhijee | yeah, but i have high bitrate MP3's too |
| 22:15:34 | gandhijee | many above 192 |
| 22:15:47 | petur | gandhijee: the problem is that there is no longer a developer with an ipod 3rd gen |
| 22:15:59 | gandhijee | haha |
| 22:16:03 | gandhijee | i'm not surprised |
| 22:16:22 | gandhijee | i got lucky and gotta free drive for mine so it came back to life |
| 22:16:48 | petur | which reminds me... |
| 22:16:54 | * | petur pings BRi7X |
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| 22:30:44 | XavierGr | wow compiling all the cross compilers sure is a long procedure.... |
| 22:31:09 | XavierGr | 45 minutes now |
| 22:31:26 | kremlin | compiling compilers tends to be a lengthy process |
| 22:31:51 | gandhijee | 45min isn't bad |
| 22:31:57 | XavierGr | yeah I remember that the first time I manually compiled them, but still it amazes me |
| 22:32:01 | gandhijee | is rockbox written in C? |
| 22:32:09 | Domonoky | c and asm |
| 22:32:10 | XavierGr | gandhijee: well it is still compiling |
| 22:32:33 | scorche | XavierGr: yesh...it takes quite a bit |
| 22:32:47 | XavierGr | Ι don't want to imagine how is to debug staff like that :\ |
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| 22:33:23 | petur | XavierGr: under ubuntu? what system? |
| 22:33:53 | gandhijee | XavierGr: what kinda machine you compiling it on? |
| 22:36:44 | XavierGr | petur: debian stable with no gui on vmware |
| 22:36:53 | petur | ah |
| 22:36:55 | XavierGr | pentium 4 @ 3ghz |
| 22:37:45 | petur | iirc, it took a little over 20 minutes on my new laptop (core2duo 2GHz) |
| 22:37:59 | petur | that's native ubuntu :) |
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| 22:38:40 | Soap | ditto on all three (processor, speed, distro) |
| 22:43:50 | Domonoky | Bagder: if you have time, can you move domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.4.zip">http://b23.org/~domonoky/rbutil-v0.3.2.4.zip to the download server |
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| 22:44:46 | XavierGr | w00t finished |
| 22:44:57 | XavierGr | 1 hour it is then |
| 22:45:28 | XavierGr | petur: damn petur that reminds me that I don't have a laptop and haven't upgraded my box for more than 2 yeas (iirc) |
| 22:45:30 | n1s | Domonoky: I had an idea for rbutil, it could prompt users to install fonts none are present... |
| 22:46:37 | Bagder | Domonoky: done! |
| 22:47:08 | n1s | *if |
| 22:50:05 | toffe82 | On a virtual machine ubuntu on winxp , it took me less than 1/2 hour on my laptop |
| 22:50:33 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:50:48 | XavierGr | Bagder: thanks again for creating rockboxdev.sh it really made my life easier to create a new vmware image |
| 22:50:55 | * | Bagder bows |
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| 22:51:19 | XavierGr | amiconn's idea is brilliant |
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| 22:51:47 | XavierGr | using sdl to compile (from linux) the sim for windows is great |
| 22:52:06 | XavierGr | now I only have to ssh to vmware image and open the filetree with samba |
| 22:52:21 | XavierGr | and a full working enviroment nearly the same as cygwin but much faster |
| 22:52:37 | XavierGr | though this won't work for linux or Mac users |
| 22:52:38 | * | n1s finds 5 feature requests for almost the same feature... |
| 22:54:10 | Domonoky | n1s: do you think rbutil should nag about such things ? the font install button isnt far in rbutil :-) |
| 22:54:47 | n1s | Domonoky: I think it could be useful if it detects that there are no fonts, but maybe it will be annoying... |
| 22:55:36 | Domonoky | a really nice feature for rbutil would be to install voice files for rockbox, but theres no daily build voice files.. :-/ |
| 22:56:13 | Bagder | not yet at least ;-) |
| 22:56:24 | Bagder | I have scripts around that do it |
| 22:56:26 | Domonoky | *hint hint* :-) |
| 22:56:33 | toffe82 | another one should be to detect if the installed version is the same as the current |
| 22:56:51 | Bagder | the only little problem is that the linux-generated voices are rather crappy in comparison to some of the windows ones |
| 22:57:18 | Domonoky | Bagder: but better no voice file, or an outdated one.. |
| 22:57:23 | Domonoky | +than |
| 22:57:47 | Bagder | yes, and soon we very well might have target-specific voice files |
| 22:58:14 | Domonoky | so it would be really good to have automated building.. |
| 22:58:28 | Domonoky | if its there, i will implement the rbutil side of it :-) |
| 22:58:35 | Bagder | yes, I've been intending to start my scripts for real then |
| 22:59:04 | Bagder | it'll also hit our servers even more... |
| 22:59:51 | n1s | Bagder: you could make it really fancy so that it only updates voicefiles if the .lang files change :-) |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:04 | Bagder | very true |
| 23:00:43 | Bagder | but then it already "caches" mp3 versions of all strings |
| 23:01:00 | Bagder | so generated a new chunk with no new strings is rather quickly done |
| 23:01:08 | Bagder | generating |
| 23:02:30 | Domonoky | n1s, toffe82: if you finde time to implement some of those detecting things for rbutil, go ahead :-)) |
| 23:03:17 | n1s | Domonoky: I looked around a bit but was very confused by c++ and vx stuff... |
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| 23:05:03 | Domonoky | n1s: yeah the wx stuff is a bit confusing.. |
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| 23:08:05 | Domonoky | one thing i dont like in rbutil, is, that it has to relay on rockbox-themes.org for the themes and this isnt official... :-/ |
| 23:08:46 | Domonoky | we either need a official rockbox-themes site, or i need to find a way to do the same with the wiki :-) |
| 23:10:46 | * | Bagder heads to bed - early night tonight |
| 23:11:05 | * | scorche adds rbutil and wps relationship to his list of devcon topics and facets of the wps discussion |
| 23:12:00 | Domonoky | thanks scorche :-) |
| 23:14:11 | petur | moooo |
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| 23:17:43 | * | n1s thinks we should include dummy plugins in the plugins list called rockboy, mpegplayer etc. and make them say "rtfm!" or something when started, and also wonders why no-one ever wonders why the text viewer or jpeg viewer isn't in the list... |
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| 23:24:35 | Soap | there's no time for text viewing when there is demon-spawn on Mars to kill! |
| 23:25:31 | n1s | Soap: I just find it interesting that most people expect to view a jpeg by clicking it in the browser but an mpeg by starting a plugin... |
| 23:25:35 | scorche | Domonoky: so how do you make it download from r-t that isnt available off the wiki? |
| 23:26:02 | Soap | n1s: but on your desktop that is the behavior. |
| 23:26:23 | Soap | You click an image to view it, yet launch your Doom game or GB emmulator. |
| 23:26:48 | Soap | mpegplayer I have a harder time understanding, though. |
| 23:27:02 | n1s | Soap: yeah but I also click a video to view it, I don't start vlc then open the menu to point it to th file... |
| 23:27:07 | Domonoky | scorche: rockbox-themes is php and provides a special url for rbutil which delivers a list with the themes and the urls |
| 23:27:07 | n1s | right |
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| 23:27:46 | Domonoky | rbutil parses this list, and presents them in the gui, thats a difficult with the wiki.. :-/ |
| 23:27:52 | n1s | Soap: yes I can understand why they think rockboy/zxbox/chip8 should be started first |
| 23:28:30 | scorche | Domonoky: i see... |
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| 23:29:50 | scorche | hrm...perhaps we could have a .php or something as an attachment on the wiki that the util can load? |
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| 23:31:19 | Domonoky | if there is a well defined list somewhere, wiki, or else where, rbutil could also parse another list.. |
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| 23:32:28 | scorche | so the wiki would work if it was organized in a certain way? |
| 23:32:31 | Domonoky | i would need a URL for the zip, a URL for the preview, and a description in this list, and only themes which work without patches.. |
| 23:33:11 | Domonoky | wiki could work... |
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| 23:34:11 | Domonoky | the problem is only that it needs a well defined format for the list, and nobody should break it :-) |
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| 23:37:59 | scorche | would this format be ill-suited for both rb use and use over a browser by viewers? |
| 23:38:00 | Domonoky | this could possibly be combined with the soap approved list, a wiki page with restricted access, and a well defined format ( wiki page for every display size would be needed) |
| 23:38:12 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 23:39:08 | Domonoky | no, i can parse what you like, as long as it is well defined, and has the nessecarry info.. |
| 23:39:41 | scorche | can i see the page that rbutil uses? |
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| 23:41:01 | SliMM | are php scripts accepted in the utils part of the svn? |
| 23:41:15 | Domonoky | one sec.. |
| 23:42:25 | Domonoky | rbutil uses a list like this at the moment http://www.rockbox-themes.org/rbutil.php?res=240x320x16 |
| 23:43:02 | Domonoky | but this is not really human readable.. but it would also be possible to parse a human readable page |
| 23:43:32 | n1s | SliMM: we have shell scripts, pearl, java, so why not? :-) but what is it and why is it php? |
| 23:44:37 | scorche | Domonoky: well, what timezone are you in, and what are you doing next weekend? =P |
| 23:46:26 | Domonoky | GMT+1, and next weekend, its weekend so what schould i do :-) |
| 23:47:03 | Domonoky | ah Devcon West... :-) |
| 23:47:18 | Domonoky | i will be in irc if i have time :-) |
| 23:47:33 | scorche | ok =) |
| 23:47:50 | scorche | we have quite a few things to hash out, so we shall see |
| 23:48:43 | SliMM | n1s: because i know php and i started working on a script for thumbnail creating |
| 23:49:11 | n1s | SliMM: thumbnails of jpegs? |
| 23:49:27 | SliMM | yes |
| 23:49:50 | SliMM | for fast jpeg viewer decoding |
| 23:49:55 | n1s | maybe that is something to hack into rbutil? ;-) |
| 23:50:19 | SliMM | :-? could be |
| 23:50:40 | n1s | SliMM: but really I don't have a final say in this, you should ask bagder but I don't see why php should be refused... |
| 23:51:12 | SliMM | Bagder: what do you think? |
| 23:51:34 | scorche | [15:10:36] * Bagder heads to bed - early night tonight |
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| 23:52:20 | n1s | scorche: it's 23:10 im our timezone :) |
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| 23:53:40 | Domonoky | its 23:53 in my timezone.. .. strange world :-) |
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| 23:56:46 | n1s | Domonoky: I mean't that it _was_ 23:10 when he posted that, although i guess going to bed at 15:10 qualifies as an early night too :) |
| 23:57:02 | Domonoky | :-) |
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