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#rockbox log for 2007-06-20

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00:02:41linuxstb_DerPapst: I haven't tried the patch, but the description seems sensible. Apart from long-select being one action, and select+play being another - how should Rockbox tell the difference?
00:03:51pixelmalinuxstb: hmm... that was my idea - and I thought it worked (currently compiling a sim to try out)
00:04:10DerPapsti've tested it on my iPod and it works ok
00:05:57*DerPapst is checking again just to make sure he didn't mess anything up.
00:06:00linuxstb_But I agree it's better than the current scroll for up/down and left/right with the buttons.
00:06:09pixelmaDerPapst: the manual patch in it didn't apply cleanly (hunk failed), so I restored it here myself
00:06:45DerPapstheh.. thanks :)
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00:07:35DerPapstthere is one issue though. not a big one.
00:08:13DerPapstwhen you pres select + play it displayes the info and when the info message is gone it sets a flag.
00:08:48DerPapstbut only if you press select before play
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00:09:35DerPapsti could live with that issue. not sure about others ;)
00:10:47linuxstb_Maybe rename it to PLAY+SELECT...
00:11:11pixelmalinuxstb, DerPapst: is "long menu" taken/ would it be better as it calls the menu first anyway
00:11:42linuxstb_Although very-long-play is shutdown, so maybe that isn't a good choice for a modifier...
00:12:14linuxstb_pixelma: Yes, long-menu seems a good idea.
00:12:28DerPapstif you do long menu you can't leave the finger on there to let if "autocroll" (lack of english)
00:12:39linuxstb_Ah, to move up?
00:13:03linuxstb_Just ask apple to add a few more buttons (retrospectively)...
00:13:06DerPapstotherwise you have to press the button over and over agaon
00:14:14*DerPapst is making a typo competition with JdGordon
00:14:17pixelmaah, it does button repeats now
00:15:48DerPapstlinuxstb: the screen isn'T big enough to accidenty switch the iPod of by holding play/pause too long.
00:16:04DerPapst*off (doh)
00:16:36pixelmaand you can exit with the button combo (without the menu in between)
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00:18:11DerPapstis there any way to quit to the menu in minesweeper?
00:18:46pixelmaseems like there is none...
00:19:20DerPapsti like the way it quits better anyway.
00:19:33DerPapst*it quits right now
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00:25:57DerPapstlinuxstb: so do you think that the patch is ok including these 2 issues?
00:29:42linuxstb_I'm not sure any more.... Maybe it's a waste for left/right to be the same as the wheel.
00:31:12pixelmalinuxstb: it's not completely the same - scrolling does the same as it is in Sudoku, left/right will only move through one line (but that part was not my idea ;) )
00:31:13DerPapstwell they're not quiet the same.
00:31:51DerPapstand i was a bit concerned about the bottn layout of 3G iPods.
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00:33:18DerPapstwhith out the wheel like it is now minesweeper still would be a pain to play on 3G iPods even with the patch
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00:44:10DerPapsti think i should use some commas or points next time ;)
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00:44:16markunlinuxstb_: what's more interesting: the average fps over a longer period (like we do now) or the fps of the last second
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00:45:01markunmaybe max and min would be interesting as well
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00:57:40linuxstb_markun: Both are interesting...
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00:59:22LloreanI think there's a very definite interest in Min
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01:01:51saratogatheres no chance of me damaging the gigabeat by putting in a screwed up build right?
01:02:08saratogaits recoverable like the Ipods?
01:02:18markunsaratoga: worst case you will have to open it up and do the 'hot swap' trick
01:02:20LloreanAs long as you're not overwriting the bootloader (FWIMG01.DAT) sure.
01:02:33LloreanIf you replace the .dat file (or damage it) then you'll need to do the swap trick
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01:23:11saratogamy plugin gives an undefined instruction error when I run it on the gigabeat
01:23:21saratogais there a file that could tell me where that address likely resides?
01:23:31cgoncalveshi. sorry the dumb question but how can i send musics to my ipod that uses rockbox?
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01:23:47saratoganevermind, found the map
01:23:56saratogayou just copy it over
01:24:29webguest38i noticed there's a page for each series that contains information on firmware and hardware on the rockbox site. i was wondering if anyone can point me int he right direction to a website that might have some information on the japanese models?
01:24:39cgoncalvessaratoga: over to here?
01:24:58webguest38advanced thank you to the smart arse that says "google"
01:25:00DerPapstcgoncalves: over to your iod
01:25:24cgoncalvesbut for what folder or it's irrelevant?
01:25:55Lloreanwebguest38: What do you mean "the japanese models"?
01:26:07saratogamy undefined instruction is in the middle of my malloc memory buffer
01:26:23LloreanI don't believe there's any case of a unique Japanese version of a player Rockbox supports that's different from the internation version from a hardware perspective.
01:26:26DerPapstpoor saratoga...
01:26:47LloreanIn fact I think the only regional differences are that the US H300 series has modified USBOTG hardware to instead be used with DRM, and the European Sansas have no radio chip
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01:28:53DerPapsti wonder why they do such a things... if i had a sansa i would like to listen to the radio too.
01:29:17LloreanDerPapst: My understanding is that there are larger fees for selling radio enabled devices, or something
01:29:33LloreanOr different restrictions. I don't know the whole story, but basically, it would make them more expensive
01:31:08DerPapstyup... something like that.
01:32:53DerPapstgood night at all
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02:43:30hcsHi all, GBS codec is up on flyspray (FS# 7331) for anyone who wants to take an early look
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04:52:45a1titudeI asked a question here a while ago about learning C, I was lead to this GNU C tutorial , I tried to compile section 4.4. in Bloodshed Dev C++ and MiniGW on windows, and it wouldn't function properly (it works fine on linux), can anyone tell me why?
04:54:00RoC_MMI took programming 101, we needed to add some parameters to the int main () line to get it to compile right.
04:54:16RoC_MMWhat does your int main() look like?
04:54:56pabsaliask: because there's a syntax error in the example
04:55:13pabsaliask: change the line that reads " printf("you win.\n")" to this instead:
04:55:16pabsaliask: printf("you win.\n");
04:57:45a1titudeI type in my number on the windows compiled version and it crashes
04:58:00a1titude(first number)
04:58:46pabsthat i'm not sure about
04:58:50pabs(i don't use windows)
04:59:29a1titudeI don't blame you, I don't like windows. lol
04:59:37a1titudethanks anyway
05:01:57LloreanThis isn't the place to come asking for generic programming help, anyway.
05:03:09a1titudeok, thanks, just I was lead to that tutorial from here, I didn't have anywhere els to ask.. thanks anyway
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06:06:57Joemommacan someone help me out with my ipod and rockbox?
06:08:12Joemommahow do i choose what songs i want to go into my database?
06:08:42Joemommabecause i have ipod games and there musci is also under it and all these unmarked or unknown tracks that take up most of the list
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06:34:46CrutomicLets do some IRC checking.
06:34:52CrutomicAnyone here?
06:35:04JavacoloursI am.
06:35:12CrutomicI know.
06:35:16CrutomicThese guys.
06:35:37CrutomicNo active bot
06:36:09CrutomicI still have my username? rofl
06:36:17JavacoloursThere.. logbot_..
06:36:50CrutomicOne sec
06:37:00CrutomicMaking a log of this whole channel.
06:40:06CrutomicHow the hell are there so much people here
06:40:09CrutomicBut no one talks.
06:40:11CrutomicNO ONE
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06:43:15CrutomicHeya Lukas.
06:45:24LloreanNobody talks because this is a technical channel so discussion is limited to support issues and development issues. Please read the guidelines for the channel if you haven't aleady.
06:51:28CrutomicI kinda have an issue that needs to be discussed really fast.
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07:51:02nickmanechowhey if i sell an ipod on ebay do i have to remove rockbox from it also?
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07:52:42RoC_MMNot unless you want to.
07:52:58RoC_MMDo you hjave to remove the original firmware if you sell it?
07:52:58scorcheit is can do whatever you wish..
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07:54:58nickmanechowbecause i dunno since gpl changed a lil recently
07:55:40scorchejust say you have rockbox on it and link them to the site
07:55:40RoC_MMit changed to stop bad people
07:55:46RoC_MMwon't ever affect you.
07:56:08nickmanechowaright thank you
07:56:12scorcheand the gpl hasnt changed...they are considering a new version...our version will always stay the same
07:56:33scorcheand "bad people" is a gross generalization
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08:46:10GodEater*yawn* morning
08:47:36JdGordonhowdy ho
08:48:56*scorche nibbles on GodEater's elbow
08:49:05*scorche has the late-ish munchies
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08:49:53GodEaterthose munchies must be bad if you think my elbow looks tasty...
08:50:05*scorche pokes
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08:50:31scorcheelbows are like beef jerky...
08:50:34GodEaterI may be overweight, but I'm not fat enough to possess "fleshy" elbows
08:51:02scorchefleshy != fatty
08:51:02GodEaterI don't want to know how you know that
08:51:21*GodEater just wants to drop the subject now
08:51:30*scorche is still hungry
08:51:46GodEaterraid the cupboards for candy
08:52:12*GodEater is laptop hunting on ebay
08:52:13aliaskCandy is bad to eat if you're hungry - eat a banana!
08:52:31aliaskOr cereal.
08:52:42aliaskThose are my two meals I can cook.
08:52:44GodEatercereal is my favourite snack
08:53:14aliaskI would have thought that God was.
08:53:26GodEaterno - main meals only
08:53:41*GodEater is imagining aliask rolling and toasting his own oats
08:54:01aliaskI wouldn't even know what to do with rolled and toasted oats.
08:54:05scorchethis conversation isnt helping =/
08:54:14GodEaterwell you started it
08:54:31*scorche resumes the elbow munching
08:54:38GodEaterdon't they do late night pizza delivery where you are ?
08:54:46GodEaterI thought the US had it on 24 hour taps
08:54:58aliaskMmm, pizza on tap
08:55:26GodEaternot a pleasant thought at this time of the morning, but I'm going out on the beer tonight - I imagine it'll sound better then
08:55:54aliaskAnd then you'll be wondering why it hasn't reached full penetration in England yet.
08:56:15aliaskDamn those lucky yanks.
08:56:33JdGordoni hate you guys
08:56:37JdGordonim suddently very hungry
08:56:46aliaskI'm eating cereal :)
08:56:47*GodEater blames scorche
08:56:53aliaskHow'd the exam go Jd?
08:56:53*GodEater is eating grapes
08:57:03scorcheaha!...found some baby carrots and some ranch dressing
08:57:04JdGordontomorows will be a doosy
08:57:14aliaskMmm, mine too.
08:57:38aliask"But they're so crunchy!"
08:57:40scorchethey were peeled before they arrived to me!
08:57:56*GodEater wonders which sicko thought of putting SLI gfx cards in a laptop
08:58:06GodEaterI don't want to toast my knees =(
08:58:19aliaskI do. It's freezing here.
08:58:42GodEaterpour petrol on your legs - ignite.
08:58:43*JdGordon agreese with aliask
08:58:47GodEaterit'll have the same effect
08:58:50JdGordonthat wont warm you..
08:59:48aliaskI'd expect to be pretty hot if I was on fire.
09:00:07scorchecarrots have a date of 31st of march on them...still seem good though
09:00:21*GodEater dials 911 for scorche
09:00:46JdGordonhow can carrots go off?
09:01:03scorchedont know...arent they just like potatoes in that they grow sprouts?
09:01:14aliaskDon't worry, I ate mayonnaise dated used by october 2006 yesterday and I feel fine.
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09:02:25scorchei wouldnt trust mayo
09:02:42aliask(to be honest I didn't actually eat it, but I thought about it for a bit)
09:02:47scorcheits those shifty eyes
09:06:48JdGordonwhats the simplest way to get some sort of threading and queing functionality into a standalone c app on linux? I figure testing new buffering stuff on that will be easier than running in the sim
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09:08:49*GodEater hasn't done any multi-threaded programming linux
09:09:11GodEaterdo you want native linux threading, or more similar to rockbox's model ?
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09:09:34GodEater'lo B4gder
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09:10:09JdGordonGodEater: anything that is simple, I just want to be able to have 2 threads going, with some sort of queueing between them to emulate the queing rockbox has
09:10:40GodEater <−− any use ?
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09:11:20GodEaterI'm not sure what you mean by queuing though - I've not delved deep enough into rockbox
09:12:22GodEaterI'm guessing that's something to do with synchronising the threads ?
09:12:26JdGordonthat looks simple enough
09:12:42JdGordonpassing data between them
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09:34:44dionoeaB4gder: rsync is done so i can setup the vhost whenever you're ready
09:35:50B4gdergreat, I suggest you setup for example and so we can use it specificly and as a round-robin, and I'll poke on the DNS
09:35:57Mufy<GodEater> Hi ! it's me again yesterday u've recommended me to instal a new firmware - ipl loader 2.0. I've made it, what should i do next ?
09:36:05B4gderdionoea: what's the IP again?
09:36:40dionoeaor if that's easier to remember is setup to point to that
09:40:11*GodEater has no recollection of recommending iPL's loader 2.0 to anyone at all yesterday
09:41:20dionoeaB4gder: looks like that DNS doesn't exist yet ... anyway, the vhosts should work
09:42:21B4gderworks at work
09:42:27Mufy<GodEater> Ok. Thats tru but Ithoght u're pal is also Moderator of this chat. Sorry!
09:42:29B4gder(which is far away from the dns server)
09:42:38B4gderanyway, it'll pop up
09:42:45markunMufy: I don't see you in yesterday's logs even
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09:42:54GodEaterMufy: I think you're in the wrong channel :)
09:43:36MufyMaybe =) But where can I ask some help ?
09:44:25B4gderdionoea: many thanks!
09:44:58MufyIs there other rooms where sombody can help me ?
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09:45:28dionoeaB4gder: you're welcome
09:45:33linuxstbMufy: #ipodlinux
09:46:11Mufy<linuxstb> Thanx !!!
09:46:42MufySorry for spam
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10:15:49Centi kinda messed up my ipod and i need help now =(
10:16:19Centanybody can help me?
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10:18:31Centmy ipod cant connect to my computer and even after resetting it i can go to disk mode
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10:18:37Centcant go to*
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10:18:51Centand it keeps booting rockbox
10:20:30markunCent: I think there is a key combo to enter disk mode
10:20:41scorcheselect + play
10:20:48scorcheit is in the manual
10:21:15Centmines a second hand 1 so i dun have the manual
10:21:23scorchethe rockbox manual
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10:21:46Centdo i need to reset?
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10:26:19Cento.o finally its working thanks a lot i owe u 1
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10:30:22RhinoBanga2morning folks
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10:31:22RhinoBangais anything the matter with trying to do an svn up and it's getting a connection timed out
10:31:57B4gdernot that I know of
10:32:04LloreanI just had no problem svn upping.
10:32:08scorcheseems fine to me
10:32:38RhinoBangathanks ... better get the network folks onto it then
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10:40:59Appl3where can i find the rockboy plugin?
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10:41:12B4gderAppl3: it comes with the rockbox install
10:41:50Appl3it must be in .rock or .gba?
10:41:54Appl3it must be in .rock or .gba/c?
10:42:20B4gderthe rockboy plugin itself is a .rock
10:42:38B4gderfor how it works, I refer to the manual
10:42:46Appl3ill read it
10:43:07B4gderthat's another plugin I have never used...
10:43:49B4gderbecause I don't care one bit about gameboy games
10:43:53Appl3you could play super mario
10:43:56B4gderand I have none
10:46:41Appl3must i reset the ipod to disk mode everytime i want to connect it to the PC?
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10:53:19GodEaterAppl3: no - it should reset to disk mode all on it's own as soon as you plug in the cable
10:53:50Appl3mine doesnt
10:54:01Appl3when i plug it in iyt charges itself
10:54:19Appl3unless i reset it and go into disk mode manuallt
10:54:20Appl3unless i reset it and go into disk mode manually
10:54:39GodEaterAppl3: are you using a custom build ?
10:55:50Appl3by evil
10:55:59GodEaterhold "menu" when you plug in the cable then
10:56:10GodEaterhe has a patch that reverses the default behaviour of rockbox
10:56:27Appl3ill try it later
10:56:35*Appl3 thanks GodEater
10:56:42*GodEater accepts graciously
10:57:22scorcheAppl3: for future reference, there is a reason why those builds are called "unsupported builds"...
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10:57:58GodEaterusually you should ask Evil about that sort of thing
10:58:06GodEaterI just happened to remember it because it came up the other day
10:59:16GodEaterOT: Does anyone know if there's a port of rdesktop to windows? M$'s own implementation sucks a lot
11:00:08Appl3u mean remote desktop?
11:00:22Appl3did u enable it in the system properties?
11:00:30GodEaterI mean rdesktop, which is an open source implementation of an RDP client
11:00:46GodEaterAppl3: yes it's enabled ;)
11:00:54safetydanGodEater, a quick google for "rdesktop win32" throws up a few interesting links
11:00:57Appl3if its enabled
11:01:02GodEatersafetydan: thanks :)
11:01:09Appl3whats ur ip ill try connecting
11:01:10Appl3mine works
11:01:17Appl3using ms own mstsc
11:01:27*GodEater is suffering much pain connecting to VMWare instances using mstsc
11:01:36GodEaterrdesktop seems to not suffer the same issues
11:01:47Appl3oh i c
11:02:09Appl3ur firewall blocking?
11:02:29GodEaterAppl3: appreciate the gesture, but you're not helping ;)
11:03:16Appl3i tink the port is 3389 =X correct me if im wrong
11:05:13GodEatersafetydan: that's perfect - find one straight away
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11:08:29amiconnGodEater: mstsc always works for me... what kind of problems do you have?
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11:10:49GodEateramiconn: the issue is that the connection starts off very responsive, but after about a minute or so, the screen stops updating
11:11:04GodEateramiconn: I have to disconnect, and then reconnect again to see what's happened on screen
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11:11:35GodEatermy theory is that this is RDP related somehow - the box itself is still *doing* things, but it's just not updating the "screen" I'm seeing
11:11:55GodEaterthere are no issues if I use something such as VirtualCenter or Dameware to connect to the actual console to do my work
11:12:38GodEatersadly this win32 port of rdesktop seems to exhibit the same symptoms, and I am not allowed to connect a linux workstation to our production vlan.
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11:14:46amiconnGodEater: Very odd... I often have rdp sessions running for hours, and never observed such symptoms
11:15:48amiconnMaybe your boxes have some unusual network settings? (like those tcp stack "optimisation" tips for windows)
11:16:25GodEateramiconn: the symptom only exhibits when connecting to these vmware instances
11:16:36GodEaterI have no issue when using RDP to talk to "real" workstations
11:17:13GodEaterI also have no issues when using it to connect to virtual servers (running Win2K server, or Win2K3 server)
11:17:21GodEaterbut only when connecting to XP workstations that have been virtualised
11:18:40amiconnWe also have numerous virtualized windows boxes (XP, 2003) running on vmware server and vmware esx server
11:18:53GodEaterall of ours are on ESX server
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11:19:06GodEaternumerous ESX servers
11:20:01GodEaterI'm fairly certain it's not odd networking settings, as these virtual XP workstations use the same build as our physical ones - and they work fine.
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11:36:12DerPapstHi. i've tried to install rockbox on my zune and now it's broken. please help me!
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11:41:43GodEatershould have used ZuneLinux
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11:42:48DerPapstmeh.. stupid me.. of course :) i'll go there and ask them how to install DSL on my zune :)
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11:47:46Centrinodoes rockbox support chinese characters/
11:47:47Centrinodoes rockbox support chinese characters?
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11:48:14DerPapstit has unicode fonts so i guess yes.
11:48:35Centrinobut i kinda cant read em on the databse
11:48:54Centrinothey dun even appear as weird characters
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11:49:19Centrinodo i neeed to add extra fonts?
11:49:23DerPapsti never played around with other chars than latin-1
11:49:42DerPapstdo you have the font pack installed?
11:50:34dionoeayou need to use a specific font for full utf8 support AFAIK
11:50:51Centrinothats sounds complicated
11:51:02GodEaternot really....
11:51:10GodEaterCentrino: have you read the manual ?
11:51:14Centrinoi did
11:51:30markunCentrino: here are people having the same questions:
11:51:31GodEaterso you should know how to change your font...
11:51:43Centrinoi need the font
11:51:54GodEaterthe font is included in the
11:52:32Centrinobut my ipod dun display them
11:52:42Centrinoits blank
11:52:49Centrinothe fonts are installed
11:53:09DerPapstit's the unifont.fnt i guess
11:54:59Centrinounifont.fnt allows me to read chinese?
11:55:33Centrinothe font pack is already installed and i have unifont.fnt inside the ipod but the chinsese words display as nothing
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11:57:26Centrinothe fonts i need are not included in the pack
11:57:28Centrinoi tink
11:57:35linuxstbCentrino: You need to change the current font to unifont.fnt
11:57:45linuxstbRockbox only uses one font at a time.
11:58:12Centrinoand how do i do that? o.o
11:58:37peturthe manual you read, remember ;)
11:58:47markunCentrino: somewhere in the menu you can browse the fonts, then just click on one
11:59:24markunCentrino: some more about chinese in rockbox:
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12:03:33safetydanI almost think I understand the tagcache data format now...
12:03:47safetydanpity that seems to be making it hard to do sort tags :(
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12:07:35linuxstbIs the intention that sort tags will never be displayed?
12:07:51safetydanlinuxstb: at the moment, yes
12:08:14safetydanmy idea is that they just influence the sort of the tag data before insertion in to the database
12:08:27linuxstbSo potentially, two identical tags could be sorted differently, and the user won't know why?
12:09:12hcssafetydan: uh oh, now it'll be changed and replaced with an even more incomprehensible format...
12:09:58safetydanlinuxstb: potentially it's an issue, but in most cases you have to manually add the sort tags anyway so you should know what's going on.
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12:10:09safetydanmight weird out people who "borrow" files from other places though
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12:15:00linuxstbsafetydan: Although presumably the "show id3 info" screen will display them?
12:15:20safetydanlinuxstb: it can be extended to show them
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12:17:04Appl3i still cant make chinese display on my iPod
12:17:36Appl3i kept reading the manual on the part about changing fonts already
12:17:46PaulJamhmm, is there any specific reason why rockbox doesn't include the codepage Windows1252/CP1252?
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12:21:06safetydanPaulJam: because it's not that different from latin1?
12:21:18markunAppl3: please don't change your nick
12:21:27markunAppl3: which font did you select?
12:22:18markundid you look in here?
12:22:34markunthe guy who wrote it also got chinese working
12:22:51markundo you know which encoding your tags are in?
12:22:58Appl3id3 prolly
12:23:35markunyes, but I mean the text encoding. UTF-8 or GB2312 for example
12:24:55PaulJamsafetydan: but still there are differences. which cause some characters in texts to display as squares unless i convert the text to unicode before i save them to my player.
12:25:29markunAppl3: There is a setting called "Default Codepage" which you need to set to GB2312 then
12:25:36markunor did you already do that?
12:25:42Appl3tell mi more
12:25:58Appl3havent did that
12:26:10markunit's under the "Display" settings
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12:27:23Appl3ill take a look at that
12:27:29markunok, good luck
12:30:49Appl3it will only work if i change the font to unifont
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12:33:41markunAppl3: the other fonts simply don't have the chinese glyphs
12:34:34markunAppl3: but this font also supports chinese:
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12:37:09pixelmaDerPapst: re. the minesweeper patch - accidentally toggling the flag when you want it to show the info screen was caused by you. You removed the MINESWP_TOGGLE_PRE definition that was in my patch...
12:39:23pixelmayou can compare it with the Ondio pad, that basically works the same and correctly
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12:39:32safetydanPaulJam: well it wouldn't be too hard to add support for it
12:41:50markunPaulJam: remember that you must have ALL your non-unicode tags in the same codepage
12:42:10markunif they are all CP1252 it makes sense to add this codepage
12:43:13PaulJami think this is the standard codepage in my windows installation.
12:43:25markunI think so too
12:43:49Appl3just a little question rockbox cant watch mp4 videoes?
12:43:49markunand your tagging software uses this?
12:43:55amiconnCP1252 is iso8859-1 plus some extra chars in the 0x80..0x9f range
12:44:01markunAppl3: no, it can't
12:44:17markunThis is the only video playback we have:
12:44:30Appl3saw that
12:44:33Appl3thanks anyway
12:45:28PaulJammarkun: i think my tagging software uses UTF-8.
12:46:33Appl3 can rockbox read avi then?
12:46:43Appl3im getting confused between avi and mpeg
12:46:54safetydanAppl3: no just mpeg
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12:52:16*markun wonders if some people think that avi is a video codec
12:52:36B4gderbecause the files are named .avi
12:52:55B4gderlike mp3 files are named mp3
12:54:04markunyes, that is probably causing the confusion
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12:56:24LloreanWell, people think "mp4 video" means something in a practical sense too.
12:56:26markunB4gder: one time I downloaded a .wav file and it contained mp3 data, didn't know it was a container format until then
12:58:25safetydanAll these new fangled container formats. We all should have just stuck with IFF :)
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13:03:48markunsafetydan: for vorbis that will be a problem as there isn't a way yet to use it without a ogg container:
13:06:45safetydanmarkun: well if it can be stored in avi, then it might be possible in iff since avi is based on riff which is based on iff
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13:06:51amiconnsafetydan: .wav essentially is iff switched to litte endian
13:07:09markunsafetydan: in avi they store it including the ogg container I believe
13:07:16markunpretty ugly
13:11:54B4gderstarting now, goes round-robin
13:11:59B4gdercross your fingers
13:13:35DerPapstpixelma: thank you. i wasn't aware what MINESWP_TOGGLE_PRE is doing at all.
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13:16:05erichAll these WPS themes with an album art and a non-albumart mode, will they work without these extra patches?
13:16:15DerPapstpixelma: one more thing... do you know what the info thing should disply once it is working? the number of used flags and available mines or the number of mines that are covered by a flag and the total number of mines?
13:18:56pixelmaatm it shows all ...hmm "closed" fields (flags or untouched, doesn't matter) - I intend to change it to the number of set flags though...
13:19:48DerPapstah.. so first info all flagged or untoucht field and then number of mines available
13:20:41DerPapstif i have a litte bit time today i'll look at it and try to fix it.
13:20:44pixelmaerich: no, album art isn't supported in an official build - so it won't work without a patched build
13:21:00erichpixelma: well, they might still degrade nicely or so.
13:21:11erichwhich is what I'm hoping for...
13:21:28erichbecause it seems like pretty much any WPS from the gallery needs these patches.
13:22:05pixelmaDerPapst: I'd say flagged and total number of mines, I also wanted to look into it :)
13:22:49DerPapstnow with define MINESWP_TOGGLE_PRE defined i'm not able to open the info thingy in the sim anymore...
13:23:06DerPapsts/define/ /
13:23:42pixelmaerich: the wps code of them contains specific syntax, which will make them fail in an official build I believ
13:24:02erichok. thanks.
13:25:16pixelmaDerPapst: works here... but the info splash only shows if you have already unveiled a field
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13:26:04DerPapstpixelma: nvm then ;)
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13:26:50pixelmathat's because the mines are only set after your first step (comments say that is to prevent you from loosing right after the start)
13:28:14DerPapstanyways. thanks for fixing. :) have go. work
13:28:21DerPapstsee you later
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13:35:46*GodEater notices that we have bandwidth to burn now it would seem
13:36:17B4gderyeah, I don't think bandwidth is much of an issue now
13:36:41*GodEater is glad positive came through in the end
13:37:04GodEaterI added Stephen's name to our list of Build Server providers in the wiki too
13:37:05B4gderthose videolan guys have some insane bandwith too it seems
13:37:17GodEateryes indeed they do!
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13:37:59*petur wonders how to see this
13:38:12B4gderpetur: two added sponsors on the front page
13:38:33B4gderbut more importantly, now provides three ips,,
13:39:28peturthat's what I meant - it's all quite invisible
13:39:42B4gderit is meant to be transparent to users
13:39:49peturI know
13:40:26peturbut gives 'server not found'.
13:41:04B4gderwell, it'll propagate
13:41:19peturhmmm none of the above three gives something
13:42:21B4gderyour dns hates you
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13:44:31GodEatervideolan doesn't yet
13:45:29linuxstbGodEater: I get the reverse...
13:45:50GodEatergive it 24 hours ;)
13:47:03B4gderwell, the good part is that you won't typically need to resolve those
13:47:12GodEatersomewhat oddly, my resolver library is trying to look for videolan on the corporate network =/
13:50:43GodEaterlinuxstb: I have some pictures of the tools I used to dismantle that 3G last night
13:50:47GodEaterif you're in anyway interested
13:51:02GodEaterit even went back together again without requiring glue and tweezers ;)
13:51:30B4gderbtw, I'm removing the old mpeg movies now from the download server
13:51:41B4gderthe m2vs
13:52:54GodEaterB4gder: did you find out what caused the blanks in the build table last night ?
13:53:05B4gderit was my temporary hacking
13:53:16GodEaterah ok
13:53:17B4gderI was modifying the script in the middle of everything
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14:43:17Appl3i used winff
14:43:21Appl3and encoded 1 video
14:43:31Appl3and i got distorted videos
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14:48:47Appl3somebody tell mi why this is happening please
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14:51:14linuxstbAppl3: Does the file play correctly on your PC?
14:51:28Appl3it din play correctly on my pc
14:51:37Appl3thats why i nv put into my iPod
14:52:35LloreanTry it on your iPod then
14:52:49LloreanI've found windows media player often has a very, very, very bad time with valid mpeg-2 files for some reason
14:54:41linuxstbOr "invalid" files, if the framerate is one of the unofficial ones.
14:54:54GodEaterLlorean: "very, very, very" or just "very, very" ? :)
14:55:37LloreanGodEater: Nothing but gibberish on the screen, updating at seemingly random intervals. :-P
14:55:44LloreanWell, visual gibberish
14:55:46GodEaterwooo - sounds pretty
14:56:23*GodEater is glad he doesn't really bother watching video on his dap
14:59:15*markun enjoyed watching a movie on his gigabeat a lot in the plane to sweden
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15:05:00slitzferrarihello, i'm trying to backup an ipod and mounting the backup on itunes, ive tried using dd but the image wont show on itunes, just on finder. does someone has a clue?
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15:05:28GodEaterslitzferrari: what has your question got to do with Rockbox ?
15:06:14slitzferraribecause i would like to have 1 apple ipod and 1 rockbox ipod at the same time :P
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15:10:32GodEaterwhat's stopping you doing this without this bizarre step ?
15:11:20slitzferrarinothing, it wa just an excuse! lol
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15:47:30pimpidieli have
15:47:40pimpidiela ipod nano 2g
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15:48:21JdGordonthats nice...
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15:49:56pimpidielhow i install rockbox
15:51:14JdGordonunless you meant 2gb version, you cant
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15:55:50bonbonthejonpimpidiel: have you looked at the wiki yet?
15:56:28bonbonthejonare all the sansa e200 series supported? I know the r's aren't
15:57:40JdGordonyou answered your own question :)
15:58:07bonbonthejoni mean, there are a few model numbers (ie 270, 280), they are all supported?
15:58:40JdGordonall but the r's are
15:59:28bonbonthejonJdGordon: ok, because I think I might have a lead on a cheap used sansa. I could try out firmware for it, if i get it
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16:06:55*GodEater wonders whether an example on the wiki would work :
16:07:07GodEater"Rockbox runs on the Nano 2G in the same way that windows doesn't run on the SNES"
16:08:08crwl"but i hear they're already working on the windows snes"
16:08:13bonbonthejonnot that sarcastic, but it would be good
16:08:30GodEaterIt's not intended to be sarcastic - it's actually completely true.
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16:08:59GodEaterI was trying to hi-light the fact that windows doesn't run on the SNES because it was never written for that hardware.
16:09:21GodEaterWRT the Nano 2G - people seem to assume that because it's apple - it must be similar to their previous hardware
16:09:24GodEaterwhich it isn't
16:10:18GodEaterperhaps it could be taken as sarcasm though - so perhaps not such a bright idea =/
16:10:26*GodEater goes back to his seat in the corner.
16:12:29FOADAlso your example implies that Rockbox actually does run on the Nano 2G.
16:13:24GodEaterFOAD: you've not read enough Douglas Adams if you think that :)
16:15:05GodEaterI was going for a hint of funny with it, rather than 100% down-the-line factual.
16:15:06FOADBut if you're referring to the ships/bricks, I must disagree.
16:15:26GodEaterwell feel free to re-word it
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16:15:54GodEater"Rockbox does not run on the Nano 2G in exactly the same way that windows doesn't run on the SNES" <−− better ?
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16:17:16*bonbonthejon approves
16:18:02FOADGodEater: yes.
16:18:23FOADNow both "halves" do have the same truth value, as in the Adams line.
16:18:30GodEatertoo straight-laced for my tastes. The comedian in my soul is rebelling even as I read it.
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16:19:19FOADFine. If you put your original in the wiki I would expect Rockbox to run on my Nano 2G.
16:19:23*GodEater will have to hunt out the Adams line again - he could have sworn it was as used above.
16:19:31FOADWell here it is.
16:19:36FOAD@A: Adams, Douglas (1952−−2001)
16:19:37FOAD@N: [00280.00020.00150]*
16:19:37FOAD@Q: The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.
16:19:37DBUGEnqueued KICK FOAD
16:19:37FOAD@R: 1Adams, Douglas _The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ (1979) |d <ch. 3>
16:19:43FOADFrom my quote file.
16:21:15GodEaterhmm. I read that the same way I read my first attempt.
16:21:51FOADships hung in the sky = true; bricks don't [hang in the sky] = true
16:22:25FOADRockbox runs on Nano 2G = false; Windows doesn't run on Snes = true
16:22:30GodEaterah see, I always read that to mean "the ships didn't fly very well at all"
16:22:36GodEaterrather than that they actually did
16:22:39GodEaterwhich is why it's funny
16:22:42GodEaterbut there you go
16:22:52GodEatervariance of interpretation if what makes the world interesting
16:22:59FOADActually I always found it funny for the incongruity in the comparison.
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16:23:59GodEaterquick topic change: "So, Zunelinux eh? Fine piece of work there."
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16:25:35markunGodEater: yes, how is that project going? I heard they have some universities working for them!
16:25:40CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
16:25:40*linuxstb is reminded to check - another project with very little progress and lots of requests for donations
16:25:58cropIs the following correct then: RB supports Zune in the same way it supports ipod nano 2g?
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16:26:25GodEatercrop: yup
16:26:28crop*exactly* in the same way
16:26:35GodEatervery much exactly
16:26:49*linuxstb prefers Douglas Adams' twisted logic
16:26:55cropThat should be put to the start wiki page then!
16:27:16cropAs in: nano 2g support: see zune support :-)
16:27:43markunlinuxstb: that projects seems to have a lot of progress "Do not hesistate to come back in a few days, you'll get fresh stuff !"
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16:31:18GodEatermarkun: they must have finished already, that post was from December last year.
16:31:21GodEaterWe missed all the fun.
16:31:32markunsome poor guy already donated a brand new ipod to them
16:34:18GodEaterI sussed a scam on ebay today
16:34:52GodEatersaw two laptops from two completely different sellers - but both using exactly the same pictures of the laptop (same furniture in the background)
16:34:57GodEaterebay's pulled one of them already
16:35:02GodEaterjust waiting for them to spot the other one
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17:16:19TofuSCHNITZELhow can i use background images in rockbox? (sansa e200)
17:20:30XavierGramiconn: did you upload your vmware image somewhere?
17:21:41peturTofuSCHNITZEL: yes, they are called backdrops in rockbox world
17:26:33TofuSCHNITZELanyone here?
17:26:39TofuSCHNITZELok thx
17:26:48TofuSCHNITZELthx man
17:27:39TofuSCHNITZELi couldnt find something about in the wiki
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17:32:16markunTofuSCHNITZEL: make a bmp with the right resolution, then bring up the context menu (long select) and choose "set as backdrop"
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18:01:57tumuhas anyone done more work on fs#7032?
18:02:23tumui have it on my sansa, but in my case it might be .spc files
18:02:45tumuaddition to having undefined instruction crashes while updating the db
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18:17:19dudewithnofoodi got a quick question
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18:52:41chrisjs169jhMikeS: I posted another comment on the tracker about the MicroSD patch
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18:59:54jhMikeSchrisjs169: ok, that's much clearer. :)
19:00:05chrisjs169jhMikeS: ok :)
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19:34:09DerPapsti could try... but you haven't asked anything.
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19:36:32DerPapst^ lol
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19:36:59spiorfyes, he needs help
19:37:07linuxstbDerPapst: Why didn't you help him? ;)
19:37:16markunyes, you bastard
19:37:21Domonokythe solution is : 42 ! :-)
19:37:36DerPapstmy mind scanner was offline :-/ sry :P
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19:56:58Davide-NYCGuys quick Question: What happened to the H120/H140 build on the Currnet Builds Page?
19:57:12Davide-NYCis the H110/H115 build the same?
19:57:48The-CompilerDavide-NYC: It is as far as I know
19:58:05Davide-NYCHmm, they were separate as little as three weeks ago
19:58:16The-Compiler"Rockbox is an open source replacement firmware for mp3 players. It runs on a number of different models: [...] iriver: H100, H300 and H10 _series_"
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20:00:47pixelmathe H110/H115 have less ram (16 MB instead of 32)
20:02:15pixelmaDavide-NYC: seems like there are still issues with the new build server
20:02:50Davide-NYCwhat about the files found here:
20:03:02Davide-NYCare those correct?
20:03:14*linuxstb blames debussy again
20:03:50linuxstbDavide-NYC: Yes
20:03:52pixelmayeah, should be (it looks like the only uploading the zips failed
20:04:21Davide-NYCOK, I'm going out of town for 10 days and may not have connectivity.
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20:06:09pixelmaGodEater: is that fixed yet? IIRC Bagder already mentioned problems with zip from the server yesterday...
20:09:15aaronwanyone know if the 1.8" ZIF hard drives can be converted to ide or would I need a controller to convert the signal?
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20:10:06DerPapstIIRC an adapter would do
20:10:25linuxstbaaronw: I think there is some discussion on about that
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20:11:09DerPapstin german but you'll get the idea.
20:12:30aaronwya, i notice some of the pins cross over
20:12:35aaronwso its for sure ide then
20:13:28aaronwpretty much im trying to read my ZVM hard drive, didnt realize it was zif till i opened it up, AFTER i got a 1.8" to 3.5" ide converter
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20:19:33BuckyWhats up??
20:21:20DerPapstloads of fun
20:21:39BuckyAwsome! May I join?
20:22:08DerPapstsure ;)
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20:22:51BuckyWho would I talk to about configing the next stable relise of rockbox with a pin out for an fm transmitter?
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20:24:17Buckyfor the ipod 5 gen
20:28:48FebsBucky, what is it you are trying to do?
20:30:14DerPapstpixelma: i've a flag count for minesweeper now. But i'm unsure about the text the info box should display. Something like "Used Flages: %d, Total amount of Mines: %d" or anything nicer...
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20:33:54austriancoderjhMikeS: ping
20:36:39jhMikeSaustriancoder: si
20:37:39austriancoderjhMikeS: I have read that you got it working.. the interrupt thing
20:38:40austriancoderjhMikeS: What have i done wrong? least the controller ones. I sent you the changed patch. Next thing is to see if insertion has an interrupt.
20:39:38austriancoderjhMikeS: you forgott to attach the patch
20:40:11jhMikeSIt's one message after the one with "working" in the title
20:40:45jhMikeSMy mail shows it attached in the outbox
20:40:48austriancoderin this one? From what I see in The"M", I'll just go with the flip-flop thing for now ;).The IRQ line could have an edge detector inserted afterall.
20:41:07jhMikeSit should be
20:41:14austriancodercould you resend it?
20:41:47austriancoderthanks :) You are my hero for today
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20:42:52jhMikeSdone :)
20:43:51jhMikeSport B is on GPIO0 controller. You also did CPU_INT_EN = GPIO_IRQ.
20:43:54BuckyThe problem I am having is the belkin radio adapter I have doesn't work If I get the pinout for it could it be coded to the next relice?
20:45:06linuxstbBucky: You would need to work out how to control the ipod hardware that talks to the ratio adapter.
20:45:30austriancoderthe first time i hate gmail:
20:45:31austriancoderbegin 666 is_working_not_hanging_rockbox_usb_irq_stuff.patchM26YD97@Z(&9I<FUW87)E+W1A<F=E="]A<FTO=7-B+7!P+F,*/3T]/3T]/3T]M/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]
20:45:39amiconnjhMikeS: I now have a PP5020 target available for testing, so if you have ideas/patches to test...
20:45:53amiconn(need to fully charge it first; it's a mini G1)
20:46:26jhMikeSno patches, one thing I wondered about but didn't check is if the COP and CPU have separate interrupt stacks
20:47:03amiconnI would think so, as they are 2 complete arm cores
20:47:05jhMikeSI wonder if forcing interrupts enabled before sleeping would keep things running
20:47:10austriancoderjhMikeS: as gmail has a problem with your attachment, could you paste it online e.g. ?
20:47:38*jhMikeS wrote a virus by mistake?
20:49:52ender1austriancoder: can't you copy it and paste it to uudecode? it should work
20:50:24jhMikeShad trouble with that so I used another nopaste:
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20:50:45austriancoderjhMikeS: thanks
20:55:37jhMikeSok, I see separate CPU/COP IRQ stacks but no COP FIQ stack yet (don't need it now)
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21:05:15*jhMikeS wonders if one core can be high vectored and the other low vectored to have separate handlers
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21:15:04jhMikeSamiconn: do you still have the patch I made before (2nd version)?
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21:20:48mxriderso i cant download any of the says the URL is not found
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21:27:25pixelmamxrider: does this link work for you ?
21:29:06mxriderno I get a 404 not found errro
21:32:42pixelmahmm, this one works for me... I think that's something to do with the new download servers that got added today.
21:34:44pixelmawhat if you try ?
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21:36:16mxriderYeah that one work, I get a directory listing all the manual files. Thanks for the help
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21:41:14mxriderso I'm assuming just choose the most recent manual for my iPod nano?
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21:44:46pixelmayes, I'd choose the newest pdf
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21:55:03mxrideri hate waiting for dial-up to finish downloading........thanks for the help though
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22:13:35amiconnjhMikeS: I have a dualcore.diff here from May 1st, but I'm not even sure where I got it from...
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22:14:19XavierGrdoes anyone know a free flv video converter?
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22:14:49lImbusis that the popular flash video format
22:14:51lImbuslike youtube ?
22:15:00lImbusi know vlc reads/plays it
22:15:05indigio3hey there, will the Toshiba MK5004MAL fit a 4gb greyscale ipod?
22:15:14XavierGrI hope that it can convert it too
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22:17:26ericmI've got a problem with rockbox on my H10 20GB
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22:21:11pixelmaericm: just state your problem/ask your question. Someone who knows will answer
22:21:16linuxstbindigio3: What's a "4gb greyscale ipod" ?
22:22:15indigio3sorry 4G i meant
22:23:12ericmI just installed today's build and it comes up with "Codec Error" when I trry to play my OGGs
22:24:02linuxstbindigio3: This page has a useful compatibility table -
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22:24:26linuxstbericm: Did you extract everything in the file, overwriting what was there?
22:25:01linuxstbAnd when did you last update Rockbox?
22:25:12ericmyes, I did
22:25:44ericmI updated it today
22:25:59linuxstbI mean before today?
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22:26:40ericmI'm not sure. it was months ago
22:26:46linuxstbThen check this page - especially the 12 April entry -
22:27:14linuxstbYou'll need to update your bootloader.
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22:27:20XavierGrlImbus: thanks VLC does the job quite nice
22:27:46ericmThank, you! I forgot about that
22:27:48lImbusde rien, was just an idea
22:27:57ericmI'll try that
22:32:35amiconnlinuxstb: Ah, so the older full-size ipods have standard 50-pin ata like the irivers and iaudios, and only the video has zif?
22:34:22linuxstbSeems that way - that's the first time I've seen that page (I just googled to help indigio3)
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22:40:36amiconnGood to know... also the fact that the older models came in both single platter and dual platter variants (except the G1)
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22:44:13peturthat ipod HD link is good to have...
22:45:50amiconnThe hdd table is very useful, although not complete
22:45:58amiconnE.g. the MK4004GAH is missing
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22:46:48peturI think that one is on the toshiba page
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22:47:52amiconnMost of them are...
22:48:27amiconnThe table provides a nice overview, unlike the toshiba site
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22:48:49linuxstbThere's an interesting comment further down the page regarding power requirements - seems the 3G may not be able to power the x006 drives, which apparently need more power to spin up than x004, but use less power when spinning.
22:52:52DerPapstpixelma: have you read my question ~2H30 min ago?
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22:57:21DerPapst20:31 to be exact
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23:00:51pixelmanice you got it working :) ...but the wording doesn't sound very nice. Maybe something like "You marked %d mines. [can't think of something for the second part]". Any native speaker feel free to help ;)
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23:03:26DerPapstwell you haven't even marked any mines if you set a flag. you flag it just to mage sure you don't accidently discover the field.
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23:04:32DerPapstor simply "Flags: %d, Mines: %d" :P
23:06:58DerPapstpixelma: just to make sure... when counting the flags: i count all flags or just the flags that cover a mine? i think the latter one would be cheating ;)
23:09:27pixelmayeah, I meant "fields" before... I'd expect it to count all flags
23:09:35ericmlinuxstb: thanks, it works now
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23:12:00DerPapstmaybe "You marked %d fields.\nThere are %d mines." (i absolutely no idea how to make it nice and short :P)
23:12:23DerPapstadd a "have" where it fits.
23:12:36*petur added some of those interesting harddisk links to the wiki
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23:22:45DerPapstpixelma: is my last try ok? if so i could put a new patch on FS.
23:23:24pixelmaI don't have a better idea myself
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23:24:24DerPapstok :) then i'll add that and remove my cheating function and add a new FS task then. :)
23:26:04pixelmaplease do :)
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23:39:53*linuxstb creates a HardDriveReplacement wiki page
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