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| 00:01:08 | sjust1216 | I have a ipod nano clone will rockbox work on it? |
| 00:01:26 | Bagder | most likely not |
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| 00:02:18 | sjust1216 | ok thanks looked nice wished it would |
| 00:02:48 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus |
| 00:03:07 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort ! ;-) |
| 00:03:17 | petur | haha |
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| 00:07:29 | markun | Bagder: you scared him away by suggesting him to do actual work! |
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| 00:08:43 | Lars_G | it's worse than actual work |
| 00:08:59 | Lars_G | most of these clones are just a hyper simplistic mcu wired to a dedicated decoder chip |
| 00:09:08 | Alonea | wow. been ages since I have been on IRC. Hello folks. Anything new these days? |
| 00:09:13 | Lars_G | try to get rockbox to work on a 8bit 10Mhz mcu |
| 00:10:09 | Bagder | it is a challenge indeed ;-) |
| 00:10:42 | Lars_G | well it'd be partly possible but it'd be the port job of the century |
| 00:10:52 | Lars_G | it's easier to write a rockbox clone from scratch |
| 00:10:58 | markun | Alonea: some pregress with the Gigabeat S is being made |
| 00:11:04 | markun | progress even |
| 00:11:09 | Lars_G | run "I can't beleive it's not rockbox" in your "I can't beleive it's not an ipod" |
| 00:11:28 | Lars_G | Anyone got a tip/suggestion for my hal headache? |
| 00:12:19 | * | Bagder walks off to try staying horizontal until morning |
| 00:12:44 | Alonea | markun: lol. thats good. I saw the thing for the puzzle mode for jewels. it was interesting. I like how the screen resets if you save, and then come back, but yet score is same. Is the screen supposed to reset? |
| 00:15:05 | markun | I don't know |
| 00:15:12 | markun | never tried the puzzle mode |
| 00:17:18 | bluebrother | Lars_G: I tried that dcop command, the ipod shows up for me |
| 00:17:53 | Lars_G | bluebrother: great for you! |
| 00:17:57 | * | Lars_G weeps |
| 00:18:09 | Lars_G | And dmesg shows the ipod being recognized |
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| 00:18:42 | bluebrother | strange. Maybe it's working because I'm still on dbus 0.62? |
| 00:19:03 | Alonea | markun: its interesting. was very confused at first, but I figured out what I was supposed to do. |
| 00:19:05 | * | bluebrother should upgrade his machine in the not-so-far future ... |
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| 00:19:21 | bluebrother | Alonea: how does the puzzle mode work? |
| 00:19:24 | Alonea | markun: whats really funny is how long it took me to figure out what button I was supposed to press for chopper |
| 00:19:36 | markun | Alonea: same here! |
| 00:20:31 | Alonea | bluebrother: there are these special blocks that are either horizontal or vertical. At first there is either 2 or 3. You have to get rid of your jewels as normal until the special blocks line up to go to the next level |
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| 00:21:09 | bluebrother | ah. I should try that later ... |
| 00:21:29 | pixelma | bluebrother: because you worked on the makefile... the error message at the end of building a pdf manual occured with the introduction of the rockboxinfo.txt - any ideas? |
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| 00:22:40 | bluebrother | pixelma: I found the problem: if you simply "make" you get that message, because the default target "all" triggers the target "info". |
| 00:23:00 | Alonea | bluebrother: but yeah, if you do what I did, and the special blocks end up at the very bottom, just save and come back and it will reset the level without loosing your score |
| 00:23:05 | bluebrother | if you run "make manual-pdf" instead you don't get that error (as the target "info" won't get triggered) |
| 00:23:05 | pixelma | ah |
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| 00:23:39 | bluebrother | and the manual makefile tricks the build system a bit to not build the tools folder |
| 00:23:58 | bluebrother | which makes the default target look in the wrong folder. |
| 00:26:07 | DerPapst | then go and fix the #define(s) |
| 00:26:19 | DerPapst | ^ ign |
| 00:27:47 | bluebrother | I was wondering about that configuration stuff a bit anyway. You can run "make manual" from a (N)ormal configuration ... |
| 00:28:19 | bluebrother | but I haven't digged too much into that yet. |
| 00:28:46 | pixelma | yup, I knew that and I think that could be handy (though I don't use it myself) |
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| 00:30:53 | Robin0800 | is make tools broken? |
| 00:32:17 | bluebrother | no −− is it supposed to? |
| 00:32:55 | bluebrother | pixelma: btw, I'm planning to rename the output file from rockbox-build.pdf to rockbox-<device>.pdf or manual-<device>.pdf |
| 00:33:09 | bluebrother | do you think it would be better to use rockbox-* or manual-*? |
| 00:34:24 | Robin0800 | bluebrother,tried to build tools to get the new ipod patcher didn't seem to build one i could use |
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| 00:35:25 | bluebrother | Robin0800: ipodpatcher is now in rbutil/ipodpatcher |
| 00:35:33 | Konfuzius_Peng | hello |
| 00:35:49 | bluebrother | just cd to that folder and type "make" |
| 00:36:32 | pixelma | bluebrother: hmm... my first thought was "manual-<device>.pdf" could be mistaken for a manual of the OF or a hardware - but didn't think it through |
| 00:37:15 | bluebrother | well, I'm somewhat unsure. One could argue that rockbox-*.pdf is clear because of the file type. OTOH, manual-* is somewhat clearer. |
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| 00:37:55 | bluebrother | currently, the manual download page uses rockbox-*, so renaming to rockbox-* would go in line with that page. |
| 00:38:27 | Konfuzius_Peng | Sorry for my bad english. Maybe someone can help me? I have an Ipod Video 80 GB with Rockbox on it. Some Themes dont look correctly, especially in the playing screen. Anyone an idea? |
| 00:38:41 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: installed the fonts package? |
| 00:39:17 | Konfuzius_Peng | bluebrother: only the bootloader and rockbox |
| 00:39:23 | Konfuzius_Peng | and a few themes |
| 00:39:31 | bluebrother | well, you need to install the fonts package separately. |
| 00:39:34 | pixelma | bluebrother: "rockbox-manual" is probably too long then? |
| 00:39:44 | Konfuzius_Peng | that could it be, thank you |
| 00:39:59 | Konfuzius_Peng | i will try it now |
| 00:40:08 | Konfuzius_Peng | shuld be on the rockbox website? |
| 00:40:09 | bluebrother | pixelma: it's a bit lengish, but it shouldn't be a problem. |
| 00:40:20 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: follow the "Extras" link on the website |
| 00:40:36 | bluebrother | and btw, I can really recommend the manual. It tells this, too ;-) |
| 00:40:38 | pixelma | manualbox.. ;) |
| 00:41:00 | petur | bag of manual |
| 00:41:05 | bluebrother | pixelma: sounds like "you need to use this box manually" ;-) |
| 00:41:25 | bluebrother | bom? I know bom as short cut, but not for bag of manual |
| 00:41:37 | bluebrother | or even "rtfm"? *g* |
| 00:41:47 | bluebrother | "Rockbox −− the fine manual" |
| 00:42:05 | pixelma | rtfrbm |
| 00:42:15 | bluebrother | hehe |
| 00:43:12 | * | DerPapst votes for "rtfm-<device>.pdf" |
| 00:44:14 | petur | I think most of our users do read the manual, so calling rtfm may be a bit hard ;) |
| 00:44:38 | bluebrother | petur: the "r" stands for "Rockbox" of course ;-) |
| 00:45:02 | petur | and f for fine... yea yea, sure |
| 00:45:10 | bluebrother | :) |
| 00:45:21 | Konfuzius_Peng | (a manual for surfing on the rockbox website would be nice, too *gg*) |
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| 00:47:00 | * | DerPapst agrees |
| 00:47:23 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: well, then you need to browse the website to find that manual in the first place |
| 00:47:27 | pixelma | Konfuzius_Peng: if explain what trouble you have with it could help making it better |
| 00:47:29 | Konfuzius_Peng | i really like rockbox but i have hd problems finding the software at first time |
| 00:47:30 | petur | certainly the wiki could use some reorganising |
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| 00:47:34 | Konfuzius_Peng | had |
| 00:47:56 | bluebrother | well, the only thing that's a bit troublesome is the wiki IMO |
| 00:48:15 | bluebrother | the "download" link could be a bit confusing, though. |
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| 00:48:34 | Lars_G | Ok the problem seems to eb in HAL |
| 00:50:05 | Konfuzius_Peng | (i really love rockbox now. First tried on my iRIver ihp-120, but dont need it really. now 3 days ago, ive buyed an ipod. and i was really near suicide. the origiginal ipod software is horrible. have thousands of files and audiobooks and dont want spend 3 years of time for making id3 tags and send it through itunes. and at the end it would be not at the right place, too ;-) ) |
| 00:50:23 | Konfuzius_Peng | (you have saved my live with rockbox ;-) ) |
| 00:50:39 | * | DerPapst thinks the rb site should use more bold and red (maybe blinking?) text.. and CAPITALS too :P |
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| 00:51:00 | * | bluebrother deleted the OF on his h120 because it is so horrible |
| 00:51:33 | Konfuzius_Peng | i loved the original iriver firmware |
| 00:51:51 | bluebrother | I hated it that moment I started to use ogg files. |
| 00:51:52 | Konfuzius_Peng | dont wanted rockbox on my iriver |
| 00:52:03 | Konfuzius_Peng | but on ipod, its completely different. |
| 00:52:13 | bluebrother | ogg support of the iriver fw is really crappy. |
| 00:52:25 | Konfuzius_Peng | i would say, ipod is not useable without Rockbox. |
| 00:52:28 | bluebrother | you're aware that Rockbox runs _much_ better on the h120 compared to the Ipod? |
| 00:52:38 | Konfuzius_Peng | especially the 80 GB version i have |
| 00:52:41 | petur | Konfuzius_Peng: I assume you're not using your h120 for recording? |
| 00:53:00 | Konfuzius_Peng | i want to have files and folders instead of crappy playlists |
| 00:53:29 | DerPapst | Konfuzius_Peng: i like the OF of the iPod pretty much. but i have my mp3s well tagged ;) |
| 00:53:50 | bluebrother | the navigation of AppleOS is ... strange ;-) |
| 00:54:09 | Konfuzius_Peng | petur: no, only a few times. 2 problems. 1st one: recording time is not enough. 2nd: you can hear the harddisk on recordings |
| 00:54:13 | * | DerPapst thinks the same about rockbox sometimes too |
| 00:54:48 | DerPapst | that's why i'm making some patches for some plugins :P |
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| 00:57:47 | Konfuzius_Peng | and now i cant use my iriver anymore, because i have cracked the lcd ;-(((( |
| 00:57:55 | Konfuzius_Peng | the hardware is stil ok... horrible |
| 00:58:07 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: use the voice menus of RB ;-) |
| 00:59:05 | DerPapst | heh true |
| 00:59:24 | bluebrother | or get someone replace the broken display. |
| 00:59:54 | bluebrother | the h100 is really great in terms of hardware. |
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| 01:00:06 | Konfuzius_Peng | i try dto replace it. |
| 01:00:10 | DerPapst | buy one with a broken hdd from ebay |
| 01:01:35 | bluebrother | btw, had anyone success connecting a JTAG to an Ipod? |
| 01:01:39 | Konfuzius_Peng | i have planed to get old with the iriver ( diplay have a very bad resolution but the rest is absolutely 1st class)... but now i have had to buy a new one ...:-( iriver dont answer question regarding a new LCD |
| 01:01:54 | bluebrother | I was thinking about that for a while, I just don't have the money to get the needed stuff yet |
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| 01:02:22 | Robin0800 | bluebrother,made ipodpatcher ok but can't make rbutil like that loads of errors |
| 01:02:41 | bluebrother | Robin0800: you need wx 2.8 installed |
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| 01:05:07 | Konfuzius_Peng | (wonderful. now my ipod plays the mp3 and i cant stop it or do anything lol) |
| 01:05:37 | bluebrother | on the Ipod you stop playback by holding the Play / Pause button |
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| 01:05:57 | pixelma | and that's covered in the fine manual ;) |
| 01:06:22 | bluebrother | and you can always reset the Ipod by holding Menu + Select (as that is a hardware function) |
| 01:06:31 | * | Llorean still isn't quite able to make a manual |
| 01:06:40 | Konfuzius_Peng | have load the COBALT theme (which dont look correctly, even with fonts), and now the display has freezed and it plays the song and i cant stop it or do anything |
| 01:07:05 | bluebrother | if you see the default wps then that theme is broken |
| 01:07:08 | pixelma | ah weird that |
| 01:07:36 | Konfuzius_Peng | you know a website i can load a picture of my screen ? |
| 01:07:53 | Konfuzius_Peng | then you can se what i mean |
| 01:07:56 | pixelma | there are a few people reporting the same thing in the forum (especially for the 80GBs) |
| 01:08:08 | Konfuzius_Peng | ohoh |
| 01:08:12 | pixelma | the freezing that is |
| 01:08:13 | Konfuzius_Peng | with all themes? |
| 01:08:20 | Konfuzius_Peng | is that a rockbox problem? |
| 01:08:26 | bluebrother | hmm, haven't followed that threads. |
| 01:08:26 | DerPapst | Konfuzius_Peng: imageshack.us |
| 01:09:04 | Llorean | bluebrother: Do you know what's the story with all these warnings? http://pastebin.com/933716 . I get a rockbox-build.pdf that's about 200k smaller than the .pdf at the manual page (for gigabeat), and it seems to lack at least the table of contents. |
| 01:09:07 | pixelma | it's not known yet what causes it - because none of the developers experienced it yet |
| 01:10:34 | Konfuzius_Peng | i hope on some day it will get fixed |
| 01:10:40 | bluebrother | Llorean: that warnings are normal −− on the first LaTeX run the labels are unknown. |
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| 01:11:01 | DerPapst | Konfuzius_Peng: wps'es aren't that difficult. try to fix it yourself. |
| 01:11:04 | DerPapst | that will be fster |
| 01:11:06 | bluebrother | but the Makefile re-runs LaTeX until those references are right, and your build breaks after the first run |
| 01:11:08 | Llorean | bluebrother: Okay, I *thought* the warnings were normal, but I do get that error at the end, and there's no table of contents in my pdf. |
| 01:11:16 | Konfuzius_Peng | because rockbox is the only alternative. and i dont want to use ipod not even one single day with original software (i NEED Folder structure) |
| 01:11:20 | bluebrother | which explains that the TOC is missing |
| 01:11:24 | Llorean | Alright |
| 01:11:37 | Llorean | Now I wish I knew what line the syntax error was on. |
| 01:11:54 | DerPapst | Konfuzius_Peng: maybe you should have bought another DAP then ;) |
| 01:12:07 | bluebrother | what system are you building on? |
| 01:12:08 | Konfuzius_Peng | http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ipodproblemnm6.jpg |
| 01:12:36 | Konfuzius_Peng | cobalt screen doas not look correctly |
| 01:12:49 | Llorean | bluebrother: I'm on Ubuntu w/ Dash. I mentioned this error 2 in regards to Linuxstb's patch when he first posted it. |
| 01:12:50 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: well, that's the default wps |
| 01:13:03 | DerPapst | wheee german music :D |
| 01:13:14 | pixelma | Konfuzius_Peng: that is an album art wps, right? |
| 01:13:16 | Konfuzius_Peng | DerPapst yeah |
| 01:13:17 | * | bluebrother notices quite a couple of german people in here ;-) |
| 01:13:32 | bluebrother | Llorean: then I assume we have another dash issue :( |
| 01:13:35 | Konfuzius_Peng | pixelma: soory dont understand what you mean |
| 01:13:59 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: some themes use album art (i.e. display the cover of the album). Those require a patched build |
| 01:14:06 | Konfuzius_Peng | pixelma i hve copied all files out of the theme .zip file into the ipod |
| 01:14:14 | DerPapst | the wps normally shoudl display Album art too? (aka CD cover) |
| 01:14:18 | bluebrother | which means running such a theme on a current build won't work |
| 01:14:26 | pixelma | the cobalt.wps uses an album art pic? |
| 01:14:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:14:40 | bluebrother | the wps only shows album art if you patched your build ... |
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| 01:15:30 | Konfuzius_Peng | for example, BLUE RAYS, ESCAPE POD and CROSSPOD are working. iRocker, jBlack Glass and cobald look crappy |
| 01:16:05 | bluebrother | Llorean: you could of course symlink bash to /bin/sh instead of dash. Then building should work |
| 01:16:30 | Konfuzius_Peng | maybe i have to invest a little bit more time into this :-) |
| 01:16:39 | Llorean | bluebrother: I've done that in the past when I actually wanted to build the manual. |
| 01:16:59 | Konfuzius_Peng | its not an "1-click-installation" ;-) |
| 01:17:55 | * | bluebrother has a suspicion |
| 01:18:02 | Konfuzius_Peng | (i'll bet some pople at Aplle wouldnt sleep anymore if these software would be easy to install for all peopl in minutes) |
| 01:18:56 | Konfuzius_Peng | pixelma one moment |
| 01:19:23 | pixelma | Konfuzius_Peng: the none working ones you mentioned all show album art (the CD cover) - this feature is not supported by an official build which is why these don't work (the short story) |
| 01:19:39 | bluebrother | Konfuzius_Peng: I bet most people don't care about using anything different than the AppleOS ... |
| 01:20:34 | Konfuzius_Peng | pixelma yes ii uses album art. thank you :-) |
| 01:21:13 | bluebrother | Llorean: does this patch fix your issue? http://pastebin.com/933719 |
| 01:21:28 | Konfuzius_Peng | have thought that if there is no album art it keeps the place empty and the rest will look correctly |
| 01:23:35 | DerPapst | good night at all |
| 01:23:37 | DerPapst | gcc o sleep.c sleep && sleep -r DerPapst |
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| 01:25:35 | Llorean | bluebrother: No. |
| 01:25:50 | bluebrother | too bad. But it was only a quick guess. |
| 01:26:04 | bluebrother | I'll look into this tomorrow. It's quite late here. |
| 01:26:05 | Konfuzius_Peng | bluebrother i wouldnt cary of using anything than apple software, too. if the software would allow to use files and folders structure. i dont understend how people can use this original software if they use mp3 from outside itunes. if you download a few audiobooks from elsewhere and try to upload it with itunes or another softare, all files will be in one big screen window |
| 01:26:56 | Konfuzius_Peng | (and completely chaos, if the id3 tags are not correct. then you here 20 audiobooks at one time, every few minutes an other file ;-) ) |
| 01:27:18 | Llorean | bluebrother: Oddly enough, it looks like it happens after it starts trying to re-make |
| 01:27:58 | Llorean | It successfully remakes rockbox-build.aux, puts rockbox-build.pdf on the chain, then has its syntax error. |
| 01:28:13 | Konfuzius_Peng | or maybe i am not smart enough to learn how to use apple software correctly. anyway, it sucks |
| 01:29:25 | Konfuzius_Peng | ok, thank you all for helping :-) |
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| 01:32:48 | Robin0800 | bluebrother,is wx 2.8 python? |
| 01:35:33 | petur | holy shit, I just fried my h340 |
| 01:35:44 | Konfuzius_Peng | ^^ |
| 01:36:54 | pixelma | petur: oh? |
| 01:36:55 | petur | crap, I think the hdd is dead |
| 01:36:56 | XavierGr | petur: really? |
| 01:37:09 | bluebrother | Robin0800: no. http://www.wxwidgets.org |
| 01:37:11 | XavierGr | how did you managed to fry it? |
| 01:37:16 | petur | sounded like a turbine |
| 01:37:34 | petur | it was charging and I connectet the usb to my laptop |
| 01:37:43 | petur | connected |
| 01:38:16 | XavierGr | oh man that sucks :( |
| 01:38:23 | XavierGr | so now it doesn't respond at all? |
| 01:38:36 | petur | display stops after batt reading |
| 01:39:00 | petur | aaargh |
| 01:39:39 | markun | fuck |
| 01:39:40 | XavierGr | with what error? |
| 01:39:47 | petur | none |
| 01:39:50 | XavierGr | damn |
| 01:40:01 | XavierGr | well if it turns on that's good |
| 01:40:01 | petur | just hangs after displaying batt voltage |
| 01:40:10 | Konfuzius_Peng | hm... have had such problem sometimes on my ihp-120 too |
| 01:40:11 | XavierGr | open it and put your older drive |
| 01:40:25 | petur | it made a horrible noise, I'll never forget that :/ |
| 01:40:46 | petur | XavierGr: I'm busy opening it |
| 01:40:47 | XavierGr | let's hope it is only the HDD that died (though even then the loss is great) :\ |
| 01:40:57 | petur | yes 80GB disk |
| 01:41:04 | XavierGr | also check if the battery ballooned |
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| 01:41:20 | Konfuzius_Peng | shure it is the hd? |
| 01:41:21 | XavierGr | you got one of those iPod 21000 mAh right? |
| 01:41:25 | petur | yes |
| 01:42:34 | Konfuzius_Peng | (have had similar problem. player doesnt start anymore, shows only backlight and not much more. reset button doesnt help.) |
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| 01:45:51 | Konfuzius_Peng | (could get it started again with connecting it on a pc ith ub and after disconnecting it, it boots correctly again...weird) |
| 01:46:02 | Konfuzius_Peng | (nothing else helped) |
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| 01:46:21 | Konfuzius_Peng | with usb |
| 01:49:14 | petur | yep, it's the battery that caused it :( |
| 01:50:04 | XavierGr | :( damn cheap 2100 mah batteries |
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| 01:50:24 | XavierGr | I am happy that my batter is from the old newtech and 1900mAh |
| 01:50:29 | XavierGr | ^battery |
| 01:50:45 | XavierGr | petur: so what's the picture? |
| 01:51:05 | XavierGr | petur: any leakage or broken stuff? |
| 01:51:34 | petur | battery is leaking (nothing spilled thank god), going to replace that first, then try the hdd |
| 01:51:56 | XavierGr | strange that it managed to turn on with a broken battery |
| 01:53:50 | petur | bah, got to disassemlbe completely... will take some time |
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| 01:59:07 | Konfuzius_Peng | anyone know which tool is the best to load the bootloader into ipod video? some people on a german chat asked me because they now want to use it too |
| 01:59:25 | Konfuzius_Peng | dont want to say something wrong ^^ |
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| 02:09:42 | petur | wooooooooooooot! my 80gb boots with the old battery |
| 02:09:48 | petur | phew |
| 02:10:01 | XavierGr | nice one! |
| 02:10:10 | XavierGr | I am really happy that only your battery was to blame |
| 02:10:18 | petur | I can't believe it, after the horrible noise it made |
| 02:10:32 | petur | I was sure the hdd was gone |
| 02:10:37 | XavierGr | you stand lucky in your bad luck |
| 02:10:54 | petur | damn cheap batteries |
| 02:11:08 | XavierGr | I guess the turbine sound came from the balloned battery that needed to output the pressured gas |
| 02:11:12 | pixelma | congrats :) |
| 02:11:27 | XavierGr | yeah I can't manage petur without his H300 :P |
| 02:11:56 | pixelma | I didn't know that petur needed a manager :P |
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| 02:12:43 | * | XavierGr wonders if petur is going to order another battery for his H300... :P |
| 02:12:51 | petur | the strange coincidence is, I came across a h340 for sale for only 190 euro (includes shipping) and was thinking about a backup unit |
| 02:12:56 | XavierGr | oops /s manage/imagine |
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| 02:13:34 | * | petur starts assembling again |
| 02:13:37 | XavierGr | petur: I have 2 backups for reasons like this. (an H140 and H115) |
| 02:14:17 | Llorean | There was an H320 for sale for us $75 on craigslist but it seems to have been bought already. :( |
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| 02:18:06 | pixelma | off to bed... night all |
| 02:18:13 | petur | night |
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| 02:24:22 | petur | stop the clockwatch, h340 reassembled and working again |
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| 02:25:49 | markun | working?? |
| 02:25:59 | markun | did you put the old HDD back? |
| 02:26:21 | petur | the 80gb is ok |
| 02:26:36 | markun | then what was the problem? |
| 02:26:50 | petur | the battery leaking gas must have made the noise (it was loud) |
| 02:27:04 | petur | so one crap cheap and now dead battery |
| 02:30:32 | markun | sick, I just downloaded from video.google.com at 10MB/s!! |
| 02:30:47 | markun | a 300MB file in just half a minute |
| 02:32:01 | Konfuzius_Peng | firefox? |
| 02:32:25 | markun | yes, why? |
| 02:32:43 | Konfuzius_Peng | then maybe it has loaded already pieces of the file before you decide to download it |
| 02:33:46 | markun | no, just a very fast connection :) |
| 02:34:22 | Konfuzius_Peng | MB or MBIT? |
| 02:34:29 | markun | university network connected to the dutch backbone |
| 02:34:34 | Konfuzius_Peng | ouh |
| 02:34:38 | markun | mega byte |
| 02:34:45 | Konfuzius_Peng | ...and i have thought i have a fast connection |
| 02:34:54 | Konfuzius_Peng | VDSL with 50 MBIT per second |
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| 02:35:27 | chrisjs169|afk | what's that icon in the top right corner of the now playing screen on the Sansa? |
| 02:35:55 | markun | well, it's not common for me to get these speeds on the internet |
| 02:36:05 | bagawk | markun: I can also get that at times where I work :) |
| 02:36:07 | markun | only on our local net or from another university |
| 02:36:25 | markun | maybe google has a mirror here in the netherlands |
| 02:36:33 | chrisjs169|afk | actually it's just not on the now playing screen - is it some sort of hdd led thing? |
| 02:37:07 | markun | chrisjs169|afk: yes, disk activity |
| 02:37:09 | bagawk | markun: The OSU OSL is here, has a good hunk of bandwidth |
| 02:37:35 | markun | bagawk: I have no clue what that means |
| 02:37:46 | chrisjs169|afk | markun: ok |
| 02:37:56 | markun | anyway, time for sleep |
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| 02:38:48 | bagawk | markun: fairly big open source project hoster, hosts boxes for mozilla, apache, openoffice, phpbb and lots of others |
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| 02:46:06 | Konfuzius_Peng | have a private 50 MBit dsl connection and a usenet flatrate from giganews.com... all i need ;-) |
| 02:49:15 | petur | jhMikeS around? |
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| 03:50:11 | Soap | bagawk: OSU as in The OSU? |
| 03:50:56 | Soap | or as in Oregon? |
| 03:52:07 | Soap | dang, google suggests you ment Oregon. |
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| 03:57:49 | lostlogic | JdGordon: you = my hero |
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| 04:04:11 | saratoga | if I declare a variable static, can I still pass a reference pointing to it to a different file? |
| 04:05:41 | JdGordon | lostlogic: ? |
| 04:05:53 | JdGordon | saratoga: yeah |
| 04:08:35 | daurn | JdGordon: yo |
| 04:08:39 | JdGordon | hey |
| 04:08:54 | daurn | sup |
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| 04:09:42 | JdGordon | nm |
| 04:09:46 | JdGordon | freeking freezing |
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| 04:11:40 | daurn | ha |
| 04:11:42 | daurn | not that bad |
| 04:11:45 | daurn | compared to other days lately |
| 04:17:50 | saratoga | another question |
| 04:18:07 | saratoga | can I call sizeof on a struct when statically allocating it |
| 04:18:13 | saratoga | something like: |
| 04:18:29 | saratoga | char *buffer[sizeof(CodecContext)]; |
| 04:21:54 | saratoga | hmm, seems to work, so I guess so! |
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| 04:29:16 | webguest65 | how do i update to the current build without deleting anything |
| 04:29:19 | webguest65 | ? |
| 04:30:26 | webguest65 | how do i update to the current build without deleting anything? |
| 04:31:36 | webguest65 | Llorean |
| 04:32:01 | Soap | simply extract the current build zip overtop of your present directory structure. |
| 04:32:02 | scorche | webguest65: it is considered rude to highlight people like that...have some patience |
| 04:32:22 | scorche | when you extract over, it should ask if you want to overwrite the files |
| 04:32:39 | Soap | all the things you don't want deleted (.cfg files, music, playlists, themes) are not part of the .zip file and so won't get touched. |
| 04:32:55 | webguest65 | ahhh... gracias senors |
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| 04:36:12 | JdGordon | saratoga: why are you doing that? why not just create a temp variable of that struct? |
| 04:39:30 | saratoga | JdGordon: didn't think of doing that, but yes that would make more sense |
| 04:41:09 | saratoga | has anyone noticed that the sansa doesn't seem to be able to mount in disk mode if the hold switch is on? |
| 04:42:42 | JdGordon | by disk mode you mean the OF? |
| 04:46:59 | saratoga | yes, sorry |
| 04:47:05 | Llorean | The OF shouldn't boot if the hold switch is on, I thought |
| 04:47:19 | saratoga | I'd expect it to if I plug in the USB though |
| 04:47:36 | saratoga | unless theres some utility in having it not mount? |
| 04:48:24 | Llorean | I can't read Sandisk's minds. |
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| 04:50:24 | saratoga | I assumed that was us handling it, but you're probably right |
| 04:50:44 | saratoga | actually you must be right since rockbox hand't loaded |
| 04:50:51 | saratoga | never mind, back to ffmpeg |
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| 04:53:29 | JdGordon | Llorean: I think your scrolling colour lines bug is an easy fix :) |
| 04:53:41 | Llorean | JdGordon: It wasn't obvious to me at least. |
| 04:53:52 | Llorean | Since scrolling makes use of putsxy too, I think |
| 04:54:06 | JdGordon | :) lunch time, back soon |
| 04:54:23 | JdGordon | I've added a bit of code to the scrolling thread which hopefully will work, |
| 04:54:27 | JdGordon | bbs |
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| 05:08:22 | JdGordon | anyone know what the setting name for the .colours file is? |
| 05:10:23 | JdGordon | grr! didnt work :'( |
| 05:12:01 | Llorean | JdGordon: What'd you add? |
| 05:12:43 | JdGordon | silly stuff coz im an idiot and didnt really check how its all used first :p |
| 05:12:53 | Llorean | Hahaha. |
| 05:14:09 | * | JdGordon doing it properly this time... |
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| 05:15:07 | JdGordon | almost got it :) i now have a green line selector bar |
| 05:15:14 | Llorean | I managed that one. |
| 05:15:29 | Llorean | It turned white again when it scrolled, though. :-P |
| 05:15:45 | JdGordon | mine stays green while scrolling... which looks horrible |
| 05:16:06 | JdGordon | works correctly with the cursor though |
| 05:16:21 | Llorean | So, now to just get the selection highlight back to white? |
| 05:16:36 | Llorean | Can you check for not inverse? |
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| 05:16:55 | JdGordon | doing that now |
| 05:20:03 | lostlogic | JdGordon: see, still my hero, because you picked up the quick chunk of code I threew together and are making it a feature. |
| 05:20:20 | JdGordon | :) |
| 05:20:44 | JdGordon | I havnt got round to playing with it on my sansa yet so I still have no idea what it looks like on the actual device |
| 05:20:48 | JdGordon | its fun in the sim though |
| 05:21:00 | JdGordon | like the gui I put together in 15 min ? |
| 05:21:33 | Llorean | If scrolling works, it really *will* be trivial to add it to the WPS. |
| 05:21:44 | Llorean | Scrolling lines were the only place it didn't work already, basically. |
| 05:21:53 | Llorean | Or rather, the only place it wasn't obvious how to add it. |
| 05:22:51 | JdGordon | fortunatly the lcd_set_colour functions are nice and cheap |
| 05:22:57 | JdGordon | otherwise this wouldnt work so well |
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| 05:26:30 | * | JdGordon rules :D |
| 05:26:54 | JdGordon | the onlly problem is there is a bit of a wait before the text goes the correct colour after being selected |
| 05:27:34 | Llorean | Hm? |
| 05:28:11 | JdGordon | the time between selecting the item and it scrolling the colours are wrong, the text is the current background oclour instead of the reuqested colour |
| 05:28:29 | JdGordon | thats problably a bug in the list though, so should be simple fix |
| 05:28:47 | Llorean | When the text is highlighted with inverse, right now it's always background color. |
| 05:29:13 | Llorean | Is that what you're saying? |
| 05:29:36 | JdGordon | sort of, with the fix once scrolling starts the text goes the requested colour |
| 05:29:51 | JdGordon | which the selection is shown in the usually foreground colour |
| 05:30:02 | JdGordon | but there is half a sec when the text is the wrong colour |
| 05:30:34 | Llorean | Probably because lcd_puts_style_offset still draws inverted text with the text being the background color rather than the text color |
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| 05:39:39 | JdGordon | hang on... do we want the selection shown in its colour? or the usual bg colour? |
| 05:39:46 | JdGordon | s/usual/current |
| 05:40:41 | Llorean | The most logical at first thought is the bg colour, as it always has been. |
| 05:40:57 | Llorean | But in some cases where there's only one file in the folder, whatever color you've set it might make more sense. |
| 05:41:55 | Llorean | I almost think that if it's STYLE_COLORED, then show the text color, otherwise show the background color or image? |
| 05:43:32 | JdGordon | thats waht I tinhk also |
| 05:43:58 | JdGordon | except.... black selection with brown text doesnt work so well... |
| 05:44:06 | JdGordon | guess thats up to the person though |
| 05:44:11 | Llorean | Yep, they pick their own colors. |
| 05:44:28 | Llorean | Brown FG with a brown image for backdrop doesn't work very well either. ;) |
| 05:45:35 | daurn | JdGordon: what are you doing now/today |
| 05:46:25 | JdGordon | about to commit a fix, then got shit to do :p |
| 05:48:54 | JdGordon | grr.... 1 bug to fix first though |
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| 05:55:38 | * | JdGordon getting bloody dark green lines |
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| 05:58:37 | JdGordon | actually, I cant tell if its dark green or black... either way its not inverting colours for non-coloured lines anymore :'( |
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| 07:35:24 | Splosh123 | Good Evening all... |
| 07:36:47 | alienbiker99 | evening |
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| 07:37:15 | Splosh123 | Anyone care to be of assistant to me...? |
| 07:42:56 | alienbiker99 | i think everybody is sleeping, im off aswell |
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| 08:03:53 | amiconn | JdGordon: Strange fix... |
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| 08:07:03 | JdGordon | oh? |
| 08:07:36 | JdGordon | cant talk now... ill read logs though.. |
| 08:08:00 | amiconn | What I am wondering about is why you need to touch the bg colour at all |
| 08:08:44 | amiconn | Inverted text is supposed to swap fg and bg colour, but this is already handled by the text output itself when drawmode has the INVERSEVID flag set |
| 08:10:18 | Llorean | It doesn't make as much sense to swap them when the text is colored, because then you can no longer tell information from the color of the text (a problem when entering a single file folder). Though I'd kinda expected him to post that part as a patch, since maybe it deserves a new style denotation. |
| 08:10:53 | amiconn | Why doesn't it make sense? |
| 08:11:09 | Llorean | Well, the highlight bar uses the FG color of the UI, not the text color. |
| 08:11:23 | amiconn | Why does it do that? |
| 08:11:34 | amiconn | It should of course take the colour of the text |
| 08:11:57 | Llorean | Honestly, that ends up looking really silly comparatively. |
| 08:12:21 | Llorean | But the thing is, the text is no longer the same as the foreground. |
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| 08:12:29 | amiconn | That's how it's intended to work |
| 08:12:34 | rageahol | did the battery life just do a huge quantum jump? |
| 08:12:46 | Llorean | The scrollbar on the left, statusbar and folder name, and the line selector end up being foreground color. |
| 08:12:58 | rageahol | my h10 20gig went for 3 hours when i left it on, and it was only at 47% when i got back |
| 08:13:10 | rageahol | normally, like 2.5 hours and its dead |
| 08:13:17 | amiconn | If the text keeps its own colour and the bar uses the ui colour and colours are no longer swapped, how do you read text when bar colour and text colour is the same? |
| 08:13:30 | Llorean | rageahol: Technically speaking, quantum would indicate the smallest possible increase. |
| 08:13:45 | rageahol | i said huge quantum jump |
| 08:13:54 | rageahol | meaning, discrete jump |
| 08:14:01 | Llorean | amiconn: This only happens if they've set a color in the .colors file to the same as the foreground color, which is pointless. If you don't set a color, the text is the same as the foreground color and gets properly inverted |
| 08:14:16 | Llorean | rageahol: Yes, but quantum means the smallest discrete unit. |
| 08:14:23 | amiconn | It's not pointless and can happen very easily |
| 08:14:25 | midkay | Llorean: like the term "quantum leap"? |
| 08:14:27 | rageahol | right, thats why i used "huge" |
| 08:14:29 | midkay | seems appropriate. |
| 08:14:48 | amiconn | Just set the foreground colour to something non-black after having added a .colours file |
| 08:14:52 | Llorean | midkay: The term quantum leap is a gross misuse of the word quantum. |
| 08:15:01 | midkay | Llorean: it's still a popular term :) |
| 08:15:47 | Llorean | amiconn: If you set the foreground color to something non-black, then what? Unless you set it exactly the same as a color you've already used for text, it won't cause a problem. |
| 08:16:00 | Llorean | And you already can use a backdrop image or background color in conflict with your foreground. |
| 08:16:37 | amiconn | Setting fg and bg colours to identical values is prevented by the colour chooser |
| 08:16:52 | Llorean | Yes, but not when loading a .cfg, and there's no way to do so for loading a backdrop .bmp |
| 08:17:19 | Llorean | The color chooser is actually the least likely place for it to happen since if they do manage to do it, they're highlighting the exact right place to fix it already. |
| 08:17:55 | Llorean | Anyway, as I said, I don't think it's the right way for style inverse. A style highlight should be added to handle this case |
| 08:17:57 | amiconn | I'm just saying that not keeping the colour swapping both causes an additional problem and makes it look odd, since you have lines which invert and lines which don't |
| 08:19:20 | Llorean | amiconn: The only lines that invert, assuming blah.colors does not contain the foreground color, are lines where the text is the same color as the highlight bar. I think for an actual "highlight" that makes sense, but either way, inverse is currently broken in the context of "inverse" |
| 08:21:42 | amiconn | Yes, another nasty thing |
| 08:22:03 | amiconn | It makes the lcd driver behave different from what is specified |
| 08:23:09 | Llorean | I believe it only does so if the colored style is set. |
| 08:23:16 | Llorean | Or at least, last time I looked, it looked that way |
| 08:23:26 | amiconn | yes |
| 08:23:30 | Llorean | Still, it shouldn't even in that case. |
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| 08:24:14 | Llorean | amiconn: Would you object to an added highlight style that functions the way it does now, and then restoration of the proper inverse? |
| 08:24:22 | amiconn | So even if this odd behaviour is desired in the ui, the implementation is broken. |
| 08:25:12 | amiconn | The scroll structure needs to store fg and bg colour, and the ui needs to set them instead of using this odd style magic |
| 08:26:07 | amiconn | Perhaps it would make sense to make the selector bar colour settable on colour targets, instead of just inverting the text |
| 08:26:17 | Llorean | That's essentially what I planned to do. |
| 08:26:33 | Llorean | First lock it to the UI / Foreground color and get inverse fixed, then add its own color afterward. |
| 08:27:47 | amiconn | Storing the colours in the scroll struct (or rather, a cloned sub-viewport) is necessary anyway with viewports |
| 08:28:08 | amiconn | It will even have to store some more attributes |
| 08:28:27 | JdGordon | just quickly, why isnt the style variable copied for the scroll struct instead of it being split up? |
| 08:29:21 | * | JdGordon will read logs tomoro night, cyaz |
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| 08:42:14 | amiconn | I just realized that the inversevid stuff could probably be removed for anything else than mono targets |
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| 08:42:32 | amiconn | Setting fg and bg colour accordingly has the same effect |
| 08:43:05 | webguest59 | hi |
| 08:43:49 | amiconn | And I guess that as the ui will start using more and more colour, the need for pure inversion will be reduced |
| 08:44:07 | webguest59 | i need help with my rockbox, i've installed it onto my ipod nano but i can't play any of the .rvf files...what's wrong?? |
| 08:44:15 | Llorean | I'm not actually familiar with anywhere it is used other than the highlight line, though I'll admit to having done no research at all before saying this. |
| 08:44:31 | amiconn | Even on greyscale target I can imagine the selector bar to not invert the text, but leave the text in black and draw the selector in light grey |
| 08:44:36 | Llorean | webguest59: You aren't supposed to be playing rvf files. |
| 08:45:18 | Llorean | amiconn: I think that might actually look quite nice. |
| 08:45:19 | amiconn | The only displays where we need inversion are the mono ones(that includes the iriver remotes of course) |
| 08:46:24 | webguest59 | i got the files from a website that was linked to thr rockbox page, it says that i can play the .rvf file if i have rockbox on my player...did i missunderstood something? how can i play the .rvf files then? |
| 08:47:00 | Llorean | webguest59: Where did the Rockbox page say to use RVF files on a Nano? Have you tried simply reading the rockbox manual for the Nano? |
| 08:47:01 | amiconn | Llorean: So for the selector, it would actually be the job of the ui to set colours properly. Set bg to the ui foreground colour (or preferably a separate selector colour), and set fg to the text colour |
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| 08:47:46 | Llorean | amiconn: And if they match, perhaps allow the option to set a fallback color for the text, rather than straight inverse? |
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| 08:48:28 | Llorean | Or just inverse if they match? |
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| 08:50:20 | amiconn | Inverse, I'd say (i.e. set the ui bg colour as fg) |
| 08:50:24 | webguest59 | http://rockboxvideo.redbreva.co.uk/ <__ i got the videos from here... |
| 08:51:05 | Llorean | webguest59: An entirely unofficial site. |
| 08:52:36 | webguest59 | oh..ok...but it was linked to the rockbox page, here.... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial ..... under "Sample Clips" |
| 08:52:39 | Llorean | webguest59: RVF files only play on certain grayscale players. Please try reading the manual. |
| 08:52:50 | webguest59 | ok |
| 08:52:53 | webguest59 | thanks.. |
| 08:53:07 | webguest59 | i have, but i guess i missed that part.. |
| 08:53:10 | webguest59 | thanks again.. |
| 08:53:16 | Llorean | Wiki pages are also community maintained. |
| 08:53:47 | Llorean | The manual is where you should look, carefully, first. |
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| 08:54:07 | Llorean | amiconn: So when text color == fgcolor, draw the text in bgcolor instead when highlighted? |
| 08:54:12 | amiconn | Llorean: Hmm. Regarding the manual and rockbox' file formats - not all formats are supported on all targets |
| 08:54:26 | Llorean | amiconn: Honestly, I was assuming he'd just look up video. |
| 08:54:45 | amiconn | But the manual only explains those which are supported by the respective target. |
| 08:55:36 | amiconn | Maybe the appendix could have a list of *all* rockbox supported file formats, saying "not supported on <target name>" accordingly? |
| 08:55:48 | Llorean | That would be quite beneficial I think. Reduce some confusion. |
| 08:56:05 | Llorean | Even just a table of extensions, with columns by player? |
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| 08:56:41 | amiconn | Hmm, so you can see which other targets support this format? |
| 08:56:51 | Llorean | Exactly. |
| 08:57:20 | amiconn | The question is how much information about other targets should be put in our target specific manuals |
| 08:57:55 | amiconn | Llorean: No, when text colour == selector colour, use bg colour for the text instead |
| 08:58:10 | Llorean | amiconn: That's what I meant, though I perhaps didn't phrase it properly. |
| 08:59:31 | * | GodEater feels sorry for the man with the Zune in our forums |
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| 09:00:19 | amiconn | Perhaps the standard selector colour should be orange... |
| 09:00:34 | amiconn | ...complementing the rockbox look |
| 09:00:47 | Llorean | Rockbox orange selector, black text, rockbox blue background. |
| 09:01:00 | Llorean | And we have a "real" UI |
| 09:01:01 | Llorean | :-P |
| 09:01:18 | amiconn | yup |
| 09:01:25 | scorche | "For the past five months, I've been monitoring the Zune-Linux forum daily" eek.. |
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| 09:03:09 | GodEater | poor bloke |
| 09:03:23 | GodEater | what a waste of his time |
| 09:03:28 | daurn | o.o |
| 09:03:29 | daurn | why |
| 09:03:48 | Llorean | Still it's an expensive piece of hardware, and it's hard to replace a gift with something else without giving offense in many cases. |
| 09:04:10 | GodEater | Llorean: yes - but I agree that he might have spent his time better looking for support for accessing it from linux |
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| 09:04:17 | GodEater | rather than running linux *on* it |
| 09:04:23 | Llorean | GodEater: Definitely true |
| 09:04:37 | GodEater | esp. given those jokers over there |
| 09:04:43 | GodEater | I'm just glad he didn't send them any money |
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| 09:06:57 | GodEater | one day I shall have to give iPL a try - to see if I can understand why running linux on a DAP makes any sort of sense |
| 09:07:08 | GodEater | because I don't get it at all at the moment |
| 09:07:48 | Llorean | I tried iPL for about half an hour. |
| 09:07:55 | Llorean | Though it was over a year ago |
| 09:08:14 | GodEater | I never get the impression from the iPL site that there's much dev. work actually happening |
| 09:08:24 | GodEater | so a year seems pretty recent to me :) |
| 09:08:50 | GodEater | I guess your impression wasn't so positive then if you didn't bother keeping it |
| 09:09:05 | Llorean | Actually, I really only booted it to verify that the (then) brand new Rockbox bootloader could load it. |
| 09:09:16 | Llorean | Since we'd been having some strange issues with getting it to load the retail OS on the Nano |
| 09:09:48 | Llorean | Nothing I saw caught my attention though |
| 09:09:58 | Llorean | I think the major draws are either PDA like features, or games |
| 09:10:12 | * | scorche motions to his treo |
| 09:10:16 | GodEater | I'm fairly certain I'd prefer a PDA to do PDA like functions |
| 09:10:17 | GodEater | :) |
| 09:10:19 | scorche | let my DAP be a DAP |
| 09:10:23 | GodEater | yep |
| 09:10:33 | * | GodEater has an hp4150 for that |
| 09:10:39 | GodEater | not that I use it much |
| 09:10:44 | scorche | much better screen too |
| 09:10:45 | GodEater | and it does have linux on it ;) |
| 09:11:05 | GodEater | none of this windows CE rubbish |
| 09:11:21 | daurn | see |
| 09:11:26 | daurn | I'd rather my pda to be a laptop |
| 09:11:42 | * | GodEater has one of those too |
| 09:12:47 | GodEater | not that it's that portable - it's one of those Dell XPS "BoogieBoards" :) |
| 09:14:09 | amiconn | PDA and DAP are the same letters ... |
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| 09:15:12 | amiconn | GodEater: The Dell XPS reminds me - I still don't understand why the norebook manufacturers decided to put these glare displays into consumer notebooks... |
| 09:15:32 | amiconn | These displays are a nightmare |
| 09:15:46 | petur | indeed |
| 09:16:00 | Llorean | Glare displays? |
| 09:16:20 | scorche | they have an extra shiny layer of plastic that seems to pick up glare from nowhere |
| 09:16:21 | petur | I'm so happy I found a 1920x1024 non-reflective |
| 09:16:26 | Llorean | Ah, yeah |
| 09:16:38 | amiconn | If I'd want a mirror, I'd buy a mirror. Also much cheaper than a notebook |
| 09:16:44 | petur | :) |
| 09:17:14 | * | nls would like that standard test-track now... |
| 09:17:42 | scorche | bug Soap in a few hours |
| 09:17:59 | nls | preliminary tests with vorbis when building rockbox with gcc 4.1 are very dissapointing... |
| 09:18:07 | nls | scorche: :-) |
| 09:19:30 | GodEater | petur: what did you buy then ? |
| 09:19:44 | petur | dell lattitude d820 |
| 09:19:51 | nls | Tremor built with -O2 in gcc 4.1 is _slower_ than when built with -O1 in gcc 3.4 :-/ |
| 09:20:11 | GodEater | round of applause for the gcc team then |
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| 09:27:09 | GodEater | morning linuxstb |
| 09:29:19 | linuxstb | Good morning |
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| 10:04:01 | The-Compiler | Moin |
| 10:04:05 | The-Compiler | oops, sorry, wrong tab :) |
| 10:04:22 | petur | oh thanks, so no good morning for us? |
| 10:07:07 | The-Compiler | Hehe :) DerPapst has telled me, that greetings here not usual are (I'm sorry for my bad English :D) |
| 10:07:27 | The-Compiler | *has told me |
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| 10:07:47 | GodEater | wow - we come across as a soulless bunch don't we ? |
| 10:07:58 | markun | The-Compiler: people greet from time to time |
| 10:08:08 | * | GodEater waves to everyone to prove it |
| 10:09:51 | markun | perphaps people think that because they got yelled at while asking about something off topic (like ipl) while we can talk about beer all we went.. |
| 10:10:15 | petur | :D |
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| 10:10:30 | markun | regering to "soulless bunch" |
| 10:10:32 | GodEater | I think that's the same as any IRC channel I've ever sat it. You have to earn your right to wander off topic |
| 10:10:39 | markun | -typos |
| 10:10:41 | scorche | markun: well, how i see it, is there are certain perks to being entrenched in the community and/or being a dev |
| 10:10:50 | petur | hmmm beer time in 7 hours.... |
| 10:11:55 | markun | petur: I have a bottle of vodka and a bottle of whiskey in my desk drawer :) |
| 10:12:15 | * | petur wonders what quality a 7,5 euro 2200mAh battery will be :/ |
| 10:13:39 | markun | btw, for people who only know me as an old, wild, bearded guy at devcon: http://130.89.160.166/no_more_beard.jpg |
| 10:13:40 | * | GodEater wonders what *shape* it'll be |
| 10:14:09 | petur | aaaaaaaaaaahh *runs away sccreaming* |
| 10:14:26 | scorche | markun: wow....huge difference! |
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| 10:14:47 | markun | yes, took me a while to get used to my face in the mirror |
| 10:14:58 | markun | :) |
| 10:15:00 | * | petur discovers markun has a mouth :p |
| 10:15:13 | markun | petur: where did you think all that indian food went? |
| 10:15:25 | scorche | you guys had indian food as well? |
| 10:15:26 | markun | in the beard? |
| 10:15:31 | petur | I only saw that little device on your plate |
| 10:15:46 | markun | scorche: you too? |
| 10:15:55 | markun | petur: yes, crazy swedes :) |
| 10:15:57 | scorche | well, i didnt, but everyone else did... |
| 10:16:10 | markun | you don't like it? |
| 10:16:11 | scorche | "14:46 Found an Indian buffet to eat at" |
| 10:16:42 | * | GodEater works a stone's throw from Brick Lane. |
| 10:16:53 | GodEater | Soooooo much Indian food to choose from.... |
| 10:17:10 | * | scorche isnt a fan of indian food |
| 10:17:21 | markun | scorche: what about thai? |
| 10:17:28 | * | scorche is a picky eater |
| 10:17:54 | * | GodEater used to be a picky eater, then discovered he was missing out on a whole lot of stuff |
| 10:18:13 | scorche | i still laugh at this picture... http://scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/HPIM0547e.jpg |
| 10:18:31 | scorche | we all find some little snack food as dinner, and he pulls that out.. |
| 10:18:50 | scorche | it was good cheese though =) |
| 10:19:19 | markun | yes, doesn't look bad |
| 10:19:56 | markun | the amount of beer that petur pulled out of his bag was also quite amazing |
| 10:20:05 | petur | you're supposed to remove that white stuff from around the sausage before cutting it |
| 10:20:35 | scorche | petur: it was easy to peel off in tiny bits |
| 10:20:39 | markun | petur: those barbarian french guys :) |
| 10:20:57 | markun | at least I assume it was toffe |
| 10:21:09 | scorche | and red chimay > blue chimay...agreed? |
| 10:21:15 | scorche | markun: aye |
| 10:21:26 | markun | scorche: does he have a french accent? |
| 10:21:33 | scorche | quite strong |
| 10:22:30 | petur | scorche: I don't know... I'm not that much a chimay fan... but yes, a bit |
| 10:23:08 | * | GodEater had Banana Bread Beer last weekend |
| 10:23:12 | GodEater | that was damn nice |
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| 10:24:58 | scorche | markun: about the accent, all of us have decided to call them jiggabeats after the devcon |
| 10:25:13 | markun | ;) |
| 10:25:46 | GodEater | after watching "Back to the Future" I always assumed that's how "Giga" was pronounced in the USA anyway |
| 10:26:07 | scorche | well, i cant really type with a french accent |
| 10:26:21 | GodEater | :) |
| 10:26:23 | scorche | zhiggabeat might be a better way |
| 10:26:31 | GodEater | ah - yes |
| 10:26:38 | GodEater | that sounds more french in my head |
| 10:26:42 | petur | áéîòù |
| 10:28:23 | scorche | too much fun...i cant wait till next year =) |
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| 10:49:05 | amiconn | petur: I wouldn't really trust LiIon batteries which aren't made for the specific device |
| 10:49:29 | amiconn | Charging characteristics might be different, and LiIon batteries are very sensitive to overcharging |
| 10:49:42 | petur | it was a typical ipod 1/2gen battery, a bit thicker than the original |
| 10:50:23 | petur | the trouble is finding a good quality 2200mAh-ish battery |
| 10:50:26 | amiconn | Yes, and ipod batteries aren't made for the iriver. They're made for ipods |
| 10:50:36 | petur | realy? :p |
| 10:50:55 | amiconn | I'd rather stick with the stock battery than risk my player for a bit more runtime |
| 10:51:11 | amiconn | I think the nasty noise might have actually been caused by the hdd, because the battery pressed on it |
| 10:51:54 | petur | well it survived, so I'm happy |
| 10:52:16 | petur | 80GB don't come cheap ;) |
| 10:52:38 | GodEater | 2200maH I bought for my iriver seemed to fit ok |
| 10:53:04 | petur | was it sold as ipod batt or iriver? |
| 10:53:11 | amiconn | GodEater: Yes, it will fit, but it might break like petur's |
| 10:53:31 | amiconn | Ballooning because of overcharge |
| 10:53:51 | petur | btw, there's an h340 for sale for 190 euro (shipping included) on mr |
| 10:54:59 | petur | I saw it just before mine started acting up |
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| 12:27:52 | bluebrother | now for some food ... |
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| 12:39:41 | nls | Bagder: clicking some "diff" links on the front page genereates an error page, not all though... |
| 12:47:17 | GodEater | still stumped by these 80GB freezing reports |
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| 13:00:40 | markun | GodEater: do you think it can be much else than the ata driver? |
| 13:00:42 | DerPapst | "10:07 <The-Compiler>: Hehe :) DerPapst has telled me, that greetings here not usual are (I'm sorry for my bad English :D)" |
| 13:00:48 | * | DerPapst is absolutely rejecting this statement. |
| 13:00:52 | DerPapst | can't remember saying that. |
| 13:00:56 | markun | :) |
| 13:01:00 | DerPapst | good morining at all :D |
| 13:01:01 | markun | hi DerPapst anyway :) |
| 13:01:13 | markun | well, a bit past morning.. |
| 13:01:20 | The-Compiler | DerPapst: Maybe it wasn't you... But I think so. |
| 13:01:27 | DerPapst | hehe |
| 13:01:53 | DerPapst | nvm ;-) |
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| 13:03:29 | The-Compiler | Now I know it: It was bluebrother |
| 13:03:41 | * | DerPapst doesn't have any issues with his 80GB 'Pod either... yet. |
| 13:04:28 | DerPapst | bluebrother... as usual :-P |
| 13:05:00 | GodEater | markun: I don't believe it's anything to do with the ata driver |
| 13:05:09 | GodEater | my 80GB ipod is absolutely fine |
| 13:05:19 | markun | what else is different in the 80GB ipods? |
| 13:05:34 | GodEater | nothing AFAIK |
| 13:06:00 | GodEater | I'm convinced it's a user issue |
| 13:06:03 | GodEater | I just don't know what ;) |
| 13:06:05 | linuxstb | markun: Regarding your edit to HardDriveReplacement - is a "CE-ATA" interface the one most Rockbox targets have (called "pins" on that page)? |
| 13:08:23 | linuxstb | A description of the different 1.8" connectors would be useful if anyone knows enough about them to add a description to that page... |
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| 13:10:26 | DerPapst | GodEater: and the 5.5G has a different battery + backlight LEDs... but rockbox doesn't care about that ;) |
| 13:10:39 | markun | linuxstb: no, CE-ATA is 18 pins |
| 13:10:49 | markun | amiconn knows something about it |
| 13:11:09 | markun | I'll put some info in the wiki |
| 13:11:10 | linuxstb | So we could call them 18-pin and 50-pin interfaces? (am I right in thinking the standard ones are 50?) |
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| 13:11:18 | linuxstb | Or is it 44... |
| 13:11:51 | * | linuxstb loves having lots of standards to choose from... |
| 13:12:07 | DerPapst | hehe |
| 13:12:19 | markun | I think there are now 18, 40, 44 and 50 pin 1.8" HDD's :) |
| 13:12:32 | linuxstb | Plus a few variations of ZIP? |
| 13:12:35 | markun | linuxstb: CE-ATA is MMC compatible |
| 13:12:35 | linuxstb | ^AIF |
| 13:12:42 | * | linuxstb gives up typing |
| 13:12:42 | DerPapst | don't forget the zif's |
| 13:12:55 | markun | ZIF == 40, no? |
| 13:13:05 | DerPapst | errmm |
| 13:13:21 | markun | CE-ATA is also called ZIP-18 on span.com I think |
| 13:13:25 | * | DerPapst goes into GodEaters corner |
| 13:13:28 | linuxstb | Don't some drives have the pins along the long edge? |
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| 13:13:59 | markun | linuxstb: yes, the Hitachi drives I believe |
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| 13:15:06 | linuxstb | markun: So 18 and 40 are ZIF, and 44 and 50 are pins? |
| 13:15:18 | markun | ZIP != ZIF I think |
| 13:15:30 | linuxstb | ZIP was a typo by me |
| 13:15:32 | markun | actually, I'm not sure what ZIP-18 means |
| 13:15:41 | linuxstb | I meant to say ZIF |
| 13:15:42 | markun | I can't find anything about it |
| 13:16:21 | markun | linuxstb: well, they use it on span.com too http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_504_1803&products_id=13926&osCsid=f0c279e22b7c2f053030444630f69197 |
| 13:16:33 | markun | "ZIP-18 CE-ATA" |
| 13:17:05 | linuxstb | ;) |
| 13:17:05 | linuxstb | I know more than I thought I did... |
| 13:17:52 | markun | I can't find any info about it |
| 13:18:22 | linuxstb | Maybe that's just a typo as well |
| 13:18:51 | markun | linuxstb: http://www.ce-ata.org/specifications.asp |
| 13:19:09 | markun | there are 2 connectors for CE-ATA: 12 pin and 18 pin |
| 13:21:02 | markun | and here: http://www.seagate-asia.com/anz/ecatalog/ |
| 13:21:22 | markun | Type of Connector: Seagate ZIP (18-pin) |
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| 13:22:32 | markun | linuxstb: maybe we should remove the CE-ATA part in the wiki until there are DAPs which actually use it? |
| 13:26:19 | amiconn | linuxstb: There are 5 possible interfaces for 1.8" hdds |
| 13:26:35 | amiconn | (1) 44-pin ATA (like 2.5" hdds, long side) |
| 13:26:55 | amiconn | (2) 50-pin ATA (the one used by most of our targets) |
| 13:27:06 | amiconn | (3) PC-Card |
| 13:27:16 | petur | amiconn: why not put that in the wiki? ;) |
| 13:27:25 | amiconn | (4) 40-pin ZIF (the one used in the ipod video) |
| 13:27:44 | amiconn | (5) 18-pin CE-ATA (serial connection based on the MMC standard) |
| 13:29:48 | markun | amiconn: PC-Card is 68 pins? |
| 13:30:29 | amiconn | yes |
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| 13:34:22 | DerPapst | good night everyone |
| 13:34:30 | DerPapst | :) |
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| 14:08:43 | markun | linuxstb: I added the Samsung N1 series to the list of HDDs |
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| 14:36:46 | KRolfe | Hello |
| 14:37:07 | KRolfe | Is there anybody around that could help me? |
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| 14:40:36 | linuxstb_ | KRolfe: There probably is - ask your question and you'll find out. |
| 14:45:50 | KRolfe | Ah, thanks. |
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| 14:47:12 | markun | linuxstb: with 120GB drives from Seagate and Samsung it looks like we will be able to upgrade our DAPs for quite some while |
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| 14:47:37 | petur | yes, but thay will all be ZIF :( |
| 14:47:42 | petur | *they |
| 14:47:54 | markun | petur: then we'll just have to make a converter |
| 14:48:10 | KRolfe | When rockbox is loaded and i connect it to my PC it doesnt recognise the device. So i cant update my music. Does anybody know a fix? |
| 14:48:15 | petur | mass-product :) |
| 14:48:30 | linuxstb_ | KRolfe: Which device? |
| 14:48:31 | markun | KRolfe: which player? |
| 14:48:38 | KRolfe | ipod 3g |
| 14:48:56 | markun | it doesn't who up in explorer? |
| 14:48:57 | * | petur managed not to press enter after typing the same question :) |
| 14:49:05 | markun | show up |
| 14:49:08 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox doesn't have USB or firewire detection on the 3G - you need to manually reboot into either the Apple firmware or the emergency disk mode |
| 14:49:19 | markun | ah :) |
| 14:49:30 | KRolfe | explorer gives me an unrecognised device balloon |
| 14:49:40 | KRolfe | ah ok |
| 14:50:00 | KRolfe | thanks alot guys i thought i was in trouble ha! |
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| 14:50:45 | linuxstb_ | Apart from that, how is it working? There have been reports recently that the 3G port is quite unstable. |
| 14:51:45 | KRolfe | well i just installed it for the first time and was wondering how to load some music to try it out. |
| 14:51:46 | linuxstb_ | (and there are not currently any active developers with 3Gs) |
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| 14:55:47 | antgel | hello all, problem with my iriver h340 - upgrading to latest version didn't fix... |
| 14:56:22 | markun | antgel: what is the problem? |
| 14:57:10 | antgel | ... basically clicking a song to play, it doesn't play - display shows a different song in the same directory - rm'd .rockbox, no joy. works with factory firmware (eugh). is there a database not in .rockbox that might have become corrupt? |
| 14:57:29 | antgel | or alternatively, what can i do to get a debug log for you guys? |
| 14:57:53 | linuxstb | Did you chkdsk /f your filesystem? |
| 14:57:58 | antgel | markun: hi, i was coming to that - just wanted to say hi before flooding the channel :) |
| 14:58:04 | markun | ok :) |
| 14:58:39 | markun | antgel: well, we have a database, but if you click on files in the file browser it has nothing to do with the db |
| 14:58:54 | antgel | linuxstb: well, i thought of that - i don't have a windows box around so i tried dosfsck - reported little - just free space was out slightly |
| 14:59:08 | antgel | markun: yeah, i thought maybe something lower-level |
| 14:59:32 | antgel | linuxstb: if dosfsck is crap, i'll try and locate a windows box |
| 14:59:45 | linuxstb | You could try a reformat. |
| 14:59:57 | antgel | it could well be that, i drop the thing more often than i hold it |
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| 15:00:27 | antgel | but - is it not strange that factory firmware works fine, and if i mount it in linux, i can play songs from it using xmms or whatever? |
| 15:00:36 | markun | it is |
| 15:00:45 | linuxstb | I was about to ask about playing the files from Linux... |
| 15:00:57 | antgel | works fine |
| 15:01:08 | antgel | there is one other thing |
| 15:01:48 | antgel | an error crept into my sync script, and i think i ran unix2dos on a bunch of oggs (it should just run on m3us) |
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| 15:02:04 | linuxstb | That would cause issues... |
| 15:02:08 | antgel | hmm |
| 15:02:29 | antgel | okay, interesting. so why does factory firmware and xmms not give a toss? |
| 15:02:32 | linuxstb | I'm not sure how robust Rockbox is with corrupt files - it wouldn't surprise me if that could cause crashes. |
| 15:03:04 | antgel | here's a plan - if i make one such file available, could you download it and try it on your player? |
| 15:03:34 | linuxstb | Sure. |
| 15:03:43 | antgel | *thinks* |
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| 15:03:57 | linuxstb | What if you create a new folder with known good files? Do they play? |
| 15:03:57 | antgel | you got an ftp or scp server i can copy it to? :) |
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| 15:04:24 | linuxstb | No, I don't. |
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| 15:04:54 | markun | antgel: maybe you can host it on a webserver? |
| 15:05:44 | webguest15 | antgel: just an idea, could it be that you have "play selected first" disabled and "shuffle" enabled? |
| 15:06:32 | antgel | uploading now |
| 15:06:55 | markun | webguest15: I didn't even know about the "play selected first" option :) |
| 15:07:23 | * | linuxstb reads about the BBC's Glastonbury festival coverage, and sees it will be live on up to 8 TV channels simultaneously, plus radio, plus online.... |
| 15:08:30 | antgel | linuxstb: a new folder with known good files works. :( what a doofus. |
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| 15:08:54 | antgel | luckily most of my music is on my mythtv box. i think :> |
| 15:08:58 | antgel | :| even |
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| 15:09:52 | antgel | although that still doesn't explain why rockbox chokes and the others don't |
| 15:10:24 | antgel | a non-working file is at http://www.antgel.co.uk/01-in_the_presence_of_enemies__part_i.ogg/view if anyone is interested |
| 15:10:40 | antgel | it will not be there for long :) |
| 15:11:02 | webguest15 | antgel: nice music taste. |
| 15:11:24 | antgel | webguest15: oh yeah. you know irc's gonna be full of prog geeks :) |
| 15:12:12 | linuxstb | antgel: My first test (using oggdec) decodes it fine... |
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| 15:13:14 | linuxstb | But trying it in a Rockbox sim, it doesn't work and displays "No file!" in the WPS. |
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| 15:14:59 | Slasheri | hmm, eclipse editor seems to integrate quite well with rockbox :) |
| 15:15:07 | antgel | i have to go out now but i'll be interested to read any further comments - i don't know if this qualifies for bug status as i may have run unix2dos on the file |
| 15:15:22 | * | antgel reads above |
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| 15:15:36 | antgel | okay, i know it /doesn't/ ;) |
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| 15:16:43 | linuxstb | antgel: Rockbox should fail gracefully with bad input, not freeze. So technically I would say it's a bug... |
| 15:17:11 | petur | Slasheri: it does? I gave up on it and went with anjuta |
| 15:19:35 | Slasheri | petur: just tried it, and even compiling works and it detects all syntax errors :) |
| 15:19:53 | Slasheri | just needed to change the default build command from "make" to "make -f iriver/Makefile" |
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| 15:24:53 | * | petur will try that in anjuta then :) |
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| 15:25:54 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 15:29:07 | PaulJam | Slasheri: doe your last commit mean that i can now use entrys from the tagnavi.config even if i use a custom entry as rootentry? |
| 15:33:44 | Slasheri | PaulJam: menus, yes |
| 15:36:12 | PaulJam | cool |
| 15:36:39 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 16:19:11 | PaulJam | hmm, i just noticed that i have a track with a user rating of "-2". how is that possible? |
| 16:22:57 | petur | #define REAL_CRAP -2 |
| 16:23:29 | Llorean | Maybe Rockbox just disagrees with your personal tastes in music. |
| 16:24:05 | petur | maybe the rating overflows (and the track was overrated anyway)? |
| 16:24:22 | Llorean | I'm surprised the ratings aren't unsigned. |
| 16:27:05 | PaulJam | nevermind, i guess i shouldn't have mentioned this in the first place since i'm not usingan official build. |
| 16:29:26 | bluebrother | petur: not #define BAG_OF_SHIT? |
| 16:29:48 | petur | no that's 0 |
| 16:30:07 | petur | because by default, rockbox sounds like a bag of shit ;) |
| 16:30:18 | bluebrother | Llorean: seen my last commit? Building on Ubuntu worked for me when I tried in my virtual box |
| 16:30:38 | bluebrother | so hopefully all dash issues are solved, at least for the manual |
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| 16:33:41 | Llorean | bluebrother: It looks like it works |
| 16:33:53 | bluebrother | great :) |
| 16:34:04 | Llorean | Though there's an error relating to mkinfo.pl at the end. |
| 16:34:10 | Llorean | Is that relating to the version file? |
| 16:35:05 | Bagder | mkinfo.pl makes the info text file |
| 16:35:22 | pixelma | that's normal if you do a "make" only ATM... try "make manual" - bluebrother explained that here to me yesterday |
| 16:35:37 | pixelma | must be in the logs |
| 16:35:46 | Llorean | Ah, yes no message with make manual |
| 16:35:58 | bluebrother | btw, I also changed the latex run mode to nonstopmode (but forgot to mention it in the commit message) |
| 16:36:19 | bluebrother | this means that tex-ing won't stop if an error occurs and wait for user input but just fail. |
| 16:36:20 | pixelma | ah, already in today's log |
| 16:36:45 | bluebrother | you can always check the log file for the exact place of the error anyway (lines starting with !) |
| 16:36:56 | Llorean | bluebrother: I prefer that. When it waits for user input, it's very confusing for users like me who don't know what it's wanting. |
| 16:37:29 | bluebrother | yeah, that was the idea. Plus, when I'm batch-building all manuals it's easier to cancel. |
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| 16:46:53 | H3g3m0n | My database view has 4 entries for individual each file, anyone know why its happening? Using latest build, ipodnano1g |
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| 16:49:42 | austriancoder | petur: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html |
| 16:50:00 | petur | sorry, busy right now |
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| 16:51:44 | austriancoder | @all: need help - http://rafb.net/p/kyDGI867.html |
| 16:53:35 | * | petur back for 10 min |
| 16:53:57 | petur | sorry, I was debugging E1 signals, needs a bit of attention |
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| 16:55:19 | petur | so the struct must be aligned on a 2K boundary? |
| 16:55:31 | austriancoder | seems so |
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| 16:56:36 | petur | hmmm can't we get rid of that requirement, maybe that's because the mem is shared by user and kernel in linux? |
| 16:56:56 | petur | so maybe we don't need it (ie it's a linux thing?) |
| 16:57:50 | austriancoder | petur: I will do some tests the next hour.. |
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| 17:00:02 | Bagder | otherwise aligned (alignment) is what you want |
| 17:00:17 | Bagder | an attribute for gcc |
| 17:00:26 | Bagder | example "struct S { short f[3]; } __attribute__ ((aligned (8)));" |
| 17:02:17 | austriancoder | Bagder: thanks |
| 17:03:20 | lostlogic | Hmm, other than the H1x0 and H3x0 is there any rockboxable player that supports recording on both an internal and an external microphone? |
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| 17:04:24 | petur | I don't know if the X5 has an internal mic |
| 17:04:26 | PaulJam | lostlogic: x5 i think |
| 17:04:45 | lostlogic | not the m5 though? |
| 17:07:31 | petur | ask pixelma or amiconn |
| 17:08:19 | PaulJam | according to BuyersGuide wiki the m5 has an internal mic, but the subpack for the external mic use isnt included |
| 17:09:05 | lostlogic | PaulJam: thanks :) I totally forgot about that wiki page and I helped write it ;) |
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| 17:09:35 | pixelma | the M5 and the X5 have both internal mics and line-in through the subpack. OndioFM (and I guess the other Archos recorders too) also have a line-in and internal mic |
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| 17:18:35 | godzirra | Hey folks. |
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| 17:30:18 | markun | hi godzirra! |
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| 17:50:01 | * | austriancoder read the first recived usb packet |
| 17:50:33 | webguest64 | hey if anyone is intresested in buying a gigabeat s60 email me at rockbox_rules@yahoo.com (i want to help with the port of rockbox to it but idk crap. so ill just sell it) |
| 17:50:49 | markun | austriancoder: is that a breakthrough? |
| 17:50:53 | PaulJam | Would it be possible to make attachments on flyspray open a download dialog insead of showing the file? |
| 17:51:20 | austriancoder | markun: maybe.. I needed about 1.5 hours to find an never ending loop |
| 17:51:43 | linuxstb | PaulJam: I think it works by sending back the mime-type the user's browser sent when uploading the file. |
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| 17:54:07 | * | austriancoder eats a winner cake now *verygood* |
| 17:54:37 | aliask | Congrats austriancoder! |
| 17:55:45 | alienbiker99 | webguest64 how much |
| 17:56:47 | webguest64 | idk depends on how much the person wants to offer i wus think around a hundred or sumthing |
| 17:57:21 | alienbiker99 | webguest64 join #gigabeat and tell them |
| 17:57:31 | webguest64 | idk how to do that |
| 17:57:34 | markun | webguest64: USD? |
| 17:57:39 | webguest64 | yes |
| 17:57:51 | markun | alienbiker99: it's not possible with the webclient |
| 17:57:56 | alienbiker99 | oh ok |
| 17:58:17 | webguest64 | i was hoping somebody over here could tell them for me |
| 17:58:42 | alienbiker99 | just told em |
| 17:58:49 | webguest64 | thanks a lot |
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| 18:00:51 | webguest64 | do u think 100USD is to low, i was really thinking of 150-200USD but i did not want to sound selfish |
| 18:01:09 | markun | it's not very high no |
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| 18:01:56 | alienbiker99 | brand new in box? unopened? |
| 18:02:04 | webguest64 | no. its used |
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| 18:13:24 | webguest64 | ....hope i dont get ripped off, anyway thats all i wanted to say. thx for your help alienbiker99 |
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| 18:21:38 | KongK | Help please? The IPN-TWD-00-theme has no cursor/marker on my iPod Nano. Read FAQ and soforth, tried editing the theme, but can't figure our what to edit.. |
| 18:21:41 | pixie | My ipod is failing.. |
| 18:21:52 | pixie | I have to format it but fdisk, cfdisk etc cannot open it |
| 18:24:23 | markun | KongK: do you mean the progress bar? |
| 18:24:37 | markun | pixie: what does fdisk say when you try to open it? |
| 18:26:03 | KongK | no, the marker in the menus, for navigating around. The wps is OK |
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| 18:27:13 | markun | KongK: I don't even think you can disable that marker. Maybe a problem with the colours or something |
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| 18:29:04 | PaulJam | KongK: does the theme have a black backdrop/background in the menus? |
| 18:29:14 | KongK | I think so as well, but do you now how/what to edit? I noticed that some themes |
| 18:29:23 | KongK | sorry... |
| 18:29:34 | KongK | Paul:Yes |
| 18:31:20 | PaulJam | KongK: then i guess the problem is that you are using the little arrow marker instead of the inverted bar as selector, which is black if you use the default icons |
| 18:32:53 | markun | another good reason to remove it :) |
| 18:33:13 | KongK | That makes sense. Marun: Hoeto? |
| 18:33:13 | PaulJam | KongK: to solve this you could either use a custom iconset which doesn't have a black cursor. or you could use the inverse bar selector (remove the line "invert cursor: off" fron the file .rockbox/config.cfg) |
| 18:33:34 | KongK | nice! will try. thanks! |
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| 18:33:59 | markun | KongK: well, it was removed because we all thought nobody used it, but then people started complaining and we put it back :) |
| 18:34:44 | PaulJam | markun: i think it is planned for the future that the monochrome icons are drawn in foreground colour. |
| 18:35:06 | markun | PaulJam: sounds like a good plan |
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| 18:36:35 | KongK | Everyone: Thanks, works now! |
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| 18:37:12 | markun | KongK: you're welcome |
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| 18:39:19 | KongK | This is an excellent project! Ipod without Ogg-support? Pah! Thanks again! I love this OSS-community feeling! |
| 18:39:54 | markun | and help is always welcome |
| 18:40:20 | markun | so if you think you can contribute in any way, feel free to do so |
| 18:41:17 | KongK | I would love to, but I'm not nearly competent enough... |
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| 18:42:05 | bluebrother | KongK: well, there are quite a couple of options besides coding. Like supporting new users in the forums, or helping with the manual. |
| 18:42:26 | Domonoky_ | or donating.. *hint* ..*hehe* :-) |
| 18:43:05 | KongK | I'm sort of a new user myself. Day three... |
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| 18:44:20 | KongK | But I'm learning... ;-) |
| 18:44:34 | alienbiker99 | gah im so stupid, the positive wire pulled out of my battery |
| 18:45:11 | KongK | Do you have a translations-team? |
| 18:45:26 | markun | not really a team |
| 18:45:36 | markun | but a lot of tranlations |
| 18:46:07 | Domonoky_ | most of the translations are in the need of updates i think.. |
| 18:46:09 | markun | KongK: any translation you are interested in? |
| 18:46:25 | bluebrother | translations are contributed by users |
| 18:46:28 | KongK | well, I'm norwegian, so thats a start... |
| 18:46:44 | KongK | small language, though.. |
| 18:46:55 | markun | we have a norsk and nynorsk translation (but I guess you knew that) |
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| 18:48:46 | nobutada55 | Can anyone help me with my Sansa E270? |
| 18:48:52 | Domonoky_ | KongK: info about translations: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles |
| 18:49:12 | markun | nobutada55: probably not me, but what's wrong? |
| 18:49:34 | nobutada55 | I want to figure out why my rockboy doesn't work. |
| 18:50:08 | nobutada55 | I have heard other people playing gameboy games on theirs but mine doesn't load when I choose the game |
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| 18:50:31 | alienbiker99 | nobutada55 did you see if it is supported on the sansa yet |
| 18:50:57 | nobutada55 | Where can I find this information? |
| 18:51:38 | Domonoky_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch?topic=PluginRockboy |
| 18:52:05 | Domonoky_ | wiki says no sansa at moment, but it could be out of date.. |
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| 18:52:37 | markun | nobutada55: do you have .rockbox/viewers/rockboy.rock on your sansa? |
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| 18:53:18 | alienbiker99 | there might be a patch on flyspray for it |
| 18:53:25 | nobutada55 | I'm pretty sure |
| 18:54:32 | nobutada55 | Wrong firmware loaded now I have to wait... |
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| 18:54:47 | PaulJam | nobutada55: what happens if you select a .gb or .gbc file? |
| 18:55:08 | nobutada55 | It shows the screen as if it was a music file |
| 18:55:37 | markun | nobutada55: can you "hold select" and then "open with" and then "rockboy" |
| 18:55:45 | PaulJam | are you using an official build? |
| 18:56:09 | nobutada55 | Now it doesn't even load |
| 18:56:21 | nobutada55 | I'll format it and reinstall |
| 18:56:45 | markun | ok |
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| 18:57:05 | PaulJam | nobutada55: just to be sure. the files you are trying to open have the extension .gb or .gbc ? |
| 18:57:31 | nobutada55 | .gb |
| 18:57:41 | nobutada55 | pokemon blue to be exact |
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| 19:00:41 | nobutada55 | Now that I formatted it, it trys to boot rockbox and turns off |
| 19:01:05 | alienbiker99 | yeah, stick your usb cable in and put on the .rockbox folder |
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| 19:01:18 | nobutada55 | It won't stay on |
| 19:04:22 | alienbiker99 | put the cable in before you turn it on |
| 19:04:30 | alienbiker99 | it should go into bootloader usb or soemthing |
| 19:05:52 | nobutada55 | it was trying to load the bootloader for rockbox |
| 19:06:11 | nobutada55 | I'm gonna do recovery mode with clean fw |
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| 19:11:30 | nobutada55 | should I risk trying this install again? |
| 19:11:56 | alienbiker99 | why wouldnt you |
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| 19:15:34 | nobutada55 | okay it's installed |
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| 19:18:28 | nobutada55 | Is there a way to change what firmware boots first? |
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| 19:49:11 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Wow, that was a quick fix :) |
| 19:49:34 | amiconn | Going to try it now... |
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| 20:07:44 | jhMikeS | amiconn: on hwcodec it should probably check the number again in case the recording directory was changed. for swcodec it always rechecks since a format change or dir change will require a number reset. |
| 20:08:26 | amiconn | It's working nicely... |
| 20:08:37 | jhMikeS | on which player? |
| 20:08:40 | amiconn | On hdd units I never change the recording dir |
| 20:08:43 | amiconn | H180 |
| 20:10:55 | amiconn | I'll now try the core lock patch on mini g1 w/o cpu scaling |
| 20:11:14 | jhMikeS | get the one off the page, the link posted had the bug |
| 20:11:25 | amiconn | yes I remember |
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| 20:21:22 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Anything special I should check with the core locking patch? |
| 20:21:45 | jhMikeS | if it gets past the splash, mpegplayer for sure |
| 20:21:54 | amiconn | ok |
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| 20:22:05 | amiconn | mpegplayer is nasty on greyscale ipods though |
| 20:22:27 | jhMikeS | so long as it keeps running :) |
| 20:22:46 | amiconn | ...because audio stutters like hell (libmad can't keep up b/c the greyscale lib is eating a lot of cpu) |
| 20:24:18 | amiconn | This is only because we don't know how to handle the pp's lcd controller interface properly... another thing I wanted to find out by disassembling... |
| 20:24:23 | jhMikeS | getting stuck at the splash seems to mean the cores are both permanently asleep. the very first patch actually run up to the mpegplayer test and the only difference was constantly setting cpsr |= 0x40 |
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| 20:25:04 | jhMikeS | or 0x80 or whatever to disable IRQs (don't remember which bit) :P |
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| 20:26:54 | amiconn | Bit 7 disables IRQ |
| 20:26:57 | amiconn | Bit 6 is FIQ |
| 20:27:37 | amiconn | But why would disabling IRQs make it work? I'd expect the opposite... |
| 20:28:10 | jhMikeS | just turning them off when switching tasks and reenabling them |
| 20:29:01 | amiconn | But that's not needed on other PPs... so why the 5020? |
| 20:29:12 | amiconn | Btw, is the patch tested on PP5002 already? |
| 20:29:28 | jhMikeS | so the first did that to prevent the core that owns the lock from having it's own interrupt try to lock the core lock again |
| 20:29:54 | jhMikeS | no, it's not and I can't without a cable |
| 20:31:09 | jhMikeS | the patch you're trying removes interrupt interaction with the scheduler entirely and a system queue takes posts from interrupt handlers, then they're dispatch to the destination queue on the next task switch |
| 20:31:22 | amiconn | The ipod connector is proprietary, but there's one good thing: all ipods use the same connector |
| 20:31:48 | amiconn | I also have just one cable here, but 3 ipods... |
| 20:33:01 | * | GodEater_ has about 4 cables, one of which is a firewire one |
| 20:33:20 | lostlogic | damn, I can't find any m5 40gig available for sale |
| 20:33:46 | amiconn | jhMikeS: It hangs at the splash... |
| 20:34:05 | amiconn | There are also some garbage pixels on the screen |
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| 20:34:53 | jhMikeS | same ol, same ol |
| 20:35:53 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering if explicitly making sure interrupts for both cores are enabled just before sleeping would change things...hrm |
| 20:35:55 | amiconn | Garbage pixels vary between boot attempts |
| 20:36:26 | amiconn | Backlight stays on |
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| 20:37:16 | jhMikeS | with no interrupts running I imagine it would :) ... I think it's just snoozing ... 'till I determine otherwise |
| 20:38:01 | pixelma | lostlogic: the only store I found that sales M5s at all was this one: http://stores.ebay.de/MP3-DIRECT - but only seen 20GB ones and the M5L (which is also 20 gig) |
| 20:38:10 | CCCP | I need some help with Rockbox. |
| 20:38:29 | CCCP | I am wondering how to synch. I tried using WMP |
| 20:38:52 | petur | CCCP: rockbox is just drag and drop |
| 20:39:07 | CCCP | How do I delete? |
| 20:39:09 | jhMikeS | this is the point where things get too tedious to ask someone to test every possible idea where I could check in minutes what would take all day to go through |
| 20:39:24 | petur | CCCP: most keyboards have a DEL key ;) |
| 20:39:49 | CCCP | I am wondering how to delete files from the player. |
| 20:39:54 | petur | in rockbox, select the file/dir and go to the conext menu |
| 20:40:02 | petur | *context |
| 20:40:07 | CCCP | Thanks for the help. |
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| 20:41:15 | * | petur congratulates austriancoder on his first packet |
| 20:43:14 | * | jhMikeS thinks autriancoder must have removed all /me's code and _then_ it received a packet :P |
| 20:43:15 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I don't think it's just sleeping forever. The garbage pixels meanm something is running a wrong path... |
| 20:43:55 | * | petur is still trying to receive his first packet :( |
| 20:44:46 | jhMikeS | e200 runs all day with it as did one with a 5021 or 5022 |
| 20:45:31 | amiconn | Is there something that is in iram for pp5021+ but not for pp5020? |
| 20:46:14 | jhMikeS | not that I"m aware of and nothing that patch adds |
| 20:46:18 | amiconn | pp5020 has less iram, and dram will cause cache inconsistencies between the cores |
| 20:46:52 | jhMikeS | any shared data is in IRAM |
| 20:47:32 | jhMikeS | but you said that player is pretty finicky anyway so something might be hiding out |
| 20:48:19 | amiconn | It's both obvious and known that we're doing something wrong on pp5020 |
| 20:48:30 | lostlogic | pixelma: tanks |
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| 20:49:05 | amiconn | The "only" question is _what_ |
| 20:49:28 | dk2 | hi all |
| 20:49:58 | dk2 | does somebody have this file on his harddrive rockbox-jbuild-20060726-ipodvideo.zip |
| 20:50:05 | dk2 | it's because the link is dead at the moment.. |
| 20:50:14 | dk2 | ? :-) |
| 20:50:36 | * | amiconn doubts that someone in here has that |
| 20:50:54 | amiconn | (1) it's almost 11 months old (2) it's an unsupported build |
| 20:51:25 | markun | is that from before the menu change? |
| 20:51:45 | dk2 | puhh i don't know i have my ipod for 2 days :-) |
| 20:52:12 | petur | dk2: use more recent version... |
| 20:52:43 | jhMikeS | so how to explain the difference when always changing cpsr? and how a simple locking mechanism would change things so radically? so odd. |
| 20:52:46 | dk2 | could you tell me a good one? :) |
| 20:53:07 | dk2 | i have the ipod video 30gb |
| 20:53:07 | petur | why don't you run the current official build? |
| 20:53:31 | dk2 | because i had trouble with the themes... |
| 20:54:07 | Domonoky_ | someone with Linux and the ability to build and test rbutil here ?? |
| 20:54:23 | dk2 | i want to use the jclix theme |
| 20:54:30 | * | petur curses the fact that there are themes on rockbox.org that require unsupported builds |
| 20:54:37 | * | Domonoky_ reworked the device detection of rbutl.. |
| 20:55:12 | markun | dk2: do you know which patches are required for that theme? |
| 20:55:28 | lostlogic | pixelma: what thickness is the M5 20's drive? 5mm? |
| 20:55:33 | markun | maybe you can find some builds in the 'unsupported builds' forum which use the same patches |
| 20:55:53 | petur | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?board=36.0 |
| 20:58:00 | pixelma | lostlogic: it's a single platter, that's all I know, the "normal" M5 is thinner than the M5L (more info here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart#Cowon_units) |
| 20:58:21 | amiconn | lostlogic: Yes, standard single platter 1.8" |
| 20:59:02 | dk2 | thx for help petur |
| 20:59:14 | obo | Domonoky_: yes |
| 20:59:37 | lostlogic | just lookin' if I read this correctly, toshiba makes a mk4007gal which could be used in that configuration |
| 20:59:45 | lostlogic | http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=HardDrivesOpticalDrives/1.8-inchHardDiskDrives/MK4007GAL |
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| 21:00:32 | pixelma | yes, think so too |
| 21:00:50 | Domonoky_ | obo: would be nice if you test the detection of the device on linux.. :-) |
| 21:00:51 | petur | lostlogic: as with all those drives, check that you can actually buy them ;) |
| 21:01:03 | lostlogic | petur: looks like it's available at least in the UK :-P |
| 21:01:22 | petur | Domonoky_: I could give it a try, what needs to be build? |
| 21:01:24 | Domonoky_ | it would also be good if someone could test on Mac.. linuxstb ?? |
| 21:01:37 | Domonoky_ | rbutil.. |
| 21:01:54 | amiconn | lostlogic: The MK4007GAL would definitely fit |
| 21:02:15 | Domonoky_ | petur: it needs wx2.8 to build rbutil... |
| 21:02:37 | petur | Domonoky_: reallife interrupt, back in 30 |
| 21:02:53 | Domonoky_ | petur: int ack :-) |
| 21:03:14 | obo | Domonoky_: fails to build here: http://www.pastebin.ca/584403 |
| 21:03:58 | Domonoky_ | obo: ups.. :-) |
| 21:05:29 | Domonoky_ | obo: please try again, i commited a fix :-) |
| 21:06:23 | obo | Domonoky_: still has the error at autodetection.cpp:210 |
| 21:06:49 | markun | lostlogic: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
| 21:07:03 | Domonoky_ | arg.. i should learn to read.. :-/ |
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| 21:09:14 | pixelma | markun: this site is missing some cowon info... *asking myself what "ins" are* ;) |
| 21:09:16 | Domonoky_ | obo: and again please.. |
| 21:09:38 | markun | pixelma: it's a wiki.. :) |
| 21:09:38 | Domonoky_ | i hope its working now.. or will stop coding for today.. :-/ |
| 21:09:39 | pixelma | markun: that just changed now... |
| 21:09:42 | markun | ok |
| 21:10:54 | obo | Domonoky_: [INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sde |
| 21:11:04 | markun | pixelma: do you think the tables should be sorted by thickness? |
| 21:11:09 | obo | is that what you're after? |
| 21:11:33 | Domonoky_ | obo: ah you have an ipod, so it does a shortcut :-) |
| 21:11:53 | obo | ah, oops |
| 21:12:04 | amiconn | markun: So the gigabeat X series also has ZIF? |
| 21:12:08 | markun | yes |
| 21:12:10 | Domonoky_ | because for ipods and sansa we have the patchers.. |
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| 21:12:39 | Domonoky_ | obo: but thanxs, we killed a bad issue at least :-) |
| 21:12:50 | markun | amiconn: ah, I see where I've forgotten that.. |
| 21:12:52 | obo | yup, at least it will compile now :) |
| 21:13:25 | pixelma | markun: I think sorting by device (as is) is fine - especially since that is in the first column |
| 21:13:55 | amiconn | markun: It's on the page... I just thought that only the ipod video used zif |
| 21:14:12 | amiconn | But then the gigabeat X is a rare beast iirc... |
| 21:14:19 | pixelma | or do you mean the table with the possible replacements ? |
| 21:14:26 | markun | well, it's a smaller lighter F with a bigger screen |
| 21:14:45 | markun | and no button leds |
| 21:14:57 | * | amiconn wonders why so many manufacturers forget to add a radio... |
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| 21:15:18 | amiconn | Of course it would be even better to have a dab tuner |
| 21:15:38 | markun | yes, I would prefer a DAB tuner indeed |
| 21:15:50 | alienbiker99 | yo |
| 21:16:18 | amiconn | Is there _any_ DAP with a DAB tuner? |
| 21:16:30 | markun | amiconn: but the Gigabeat S includes a radio |
| 21:16:49 | * | amiconn wonders what the heck the manufacturers are doing... |
| 21:17:11 | markun | amiconn: http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/09/first_dab_radio.html |
| 21:17:14 | pixelma | I believe linuxstb once mentioned a dap with DAB |
| 21:17:38 | amiconn | There's this goal in europe to have radio and tv broadcast fully digital by the end of 2010... not very much time left |
| 21:18:13 | markun | amiconn: http://www.mpio.com/product/productview_pd100.html |
| 21:18:57 | amiconn | Hmm, only small-capacity flash players |
| 21:21:23 | petur | Domonoky_: rfi |
| 21:21:56 | Domonoky_ | petur: which player(s) do you have ? |
| 21:21:58 | markun | amiconn: we should build one :) |
| 21:22:07 | petur | h380 |
| 21:22:24 | Domonoky_ | petur: thats good, would be nice if you could test rbutil :-) |
| 21:23:09 | Domonoky_ | it should now detect your player (if you click on the button) (but only if you have already rockbox installed) :-) |
| 21:23:55 | petur | Domonoky_: err... how do you build rbutil... any links? |
| 21:24:34 | Domonoky_ | petur: you must have wxwidgets 2.8 installed. the you can you "make" in the rbutil dir.. |
| 21:25:50 | amiconn | Hmm. Albrecht makes several dab/mp3 devices: http://www.albrecht-online.de/dab/dabuebersicht.php3 (german) |
| 21:26:12 | amiconn | The DR306 has an sd/mmc slot supporting up to 2GB |
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| 21:28:32 | EZ64 | ey all |
| 21:28:34 | EZ64 | hey all |
| 21:28:36 | EZ64 | anyone therE? |
| 21:29:06 | petur | no |
| 21:29:10 | EZ64 | ^&^ |
| 21:29:15 | EZ64 | anyone got rock the box installed? |
| 21:29:17 | petur | 110 bots |
| 21:29:21 | petur | no |
| 21:29:32 | EZ64 | ive got it on my video 30gb ipod |
| 21:29:37 | * | petur hands prize for stupid questions |
| 21:29:41 | EZ64 | and want to use doom 95 and others on therE? |
| 21:29:59 | Domonoky_ | we should really remove doom :-) |
| 21:30:15 | EZ64 | so can it be done with this kernal? |
| 21:30:35 | * | scorche facepalms |
| 21:30:44 | Domonoky_ | EZ64: read the webpage or the manual or the wiki... |
| 21:30:51 | markun | EZ64: sorry, I think the people in here know very little about Doom |
| 21:30:52 | EZ64 | nothign on there |
| 21:31:00 | EZ64 | i was tlaking abotu rock the box |
| 21:31:04 | EZ64 | this is the irc |
| 21:31:21 | scorche | it is explained in the manual |
| 21:31:41 | EZ64 | thanks for the help douches |
| 21:31:43 | markun | EZ64: does it give you an error when you try to use doom 95? |
| 21:31:47 | EZ64 | why are you even in this irc? |
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| 21:32:07 | markun | yes, why.. |
| 21:32:32 | markun | well, we could have been a bit friendlier |
| 21:32:57 | scorche | he would have reacted the same way when we told him to read the manual |
| 21:33:23 | markun | still, I wouldn't have minded holding his hand a little |
| 21:33:49 | * | scorche just facepalmed....which most people of that sort dont understand |
| 21:34:08 | markun | he was of the doom playing sort? |
| 21:34:25 | scorche | he was of the rock the box sort |
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| 21:39:26 | egandt | Hello I have a problem with bookmarks, I can not create one |
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| 21:39:45 | petur | Domonoky_: I'm not managing to install wxwidgets. the "curl ..." step gives an error here (no writable keyring found) |
| 21:40:13 | petur | following http://www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/ to install on Feisty |
| 21:41:03 | Domonoky_ | petur: try without the keys.. |
| 21:41:46 | markun | egandt: are you using the database? |
| 21:41:53 | petur | I did, gives an error about signatures (maybe it did install - must check) |
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| 21:42:09 | egandt | no just a playlist from a filesystem directory |
| 21:42:31 | egandt | I think that perhaps I need a directory in which to create the bookmakr, but I'm not sure |
| 21:43:10 | egandt | The code seems to indecate that bookmarks are created in a directory, but I do not know where this directory is? |
| 21:43:53 | markun | egandt: the are created in the directory above the current one |
| 21:44:22 | egandt | so then if I just create one for a playlist since playlists are store in /playlists then it should be created in / |
| 21:44:39 | markun | hm, not sure what happens if you play from a playlist |
| 21:45:07 | egandt | ok, thanks, its weird as it worked previously |
| 21:45:26 | Domonoky_ | petur: if it doesnt work, dont worry, others will test rbutil :-) |
| 21:46:04 | * | petur swears a bit at the user-unfriendlyness of linux |
| 21:47:01 | Domonoky_ | somehow most distros dont seem to like wx .. :-/ |
| 21:47:08 | markun | egandt: maybe ask again here later when there are people who know |
| 21:47:27 | petur | I also had to install curl, Bagder will be happy ;) |
| 21:48:02 | Domonoky_ | :-) |
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| 21:53:45 | petur | oh wow, looking up the wxwidgets install error I get gives 5 links, most in Italian |
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| 21:55:38 | petur | seems it has to do with 64bit, but I run a normal x86 ubuntu :( |
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| 21:56:02 | egandt | I got part of it working, since bookmarks are stored in <current/.. if the playlist is in / then you can not bookmark it |
| 21:56:29 | egandt | the real question is how to set where playlists are created since it should be /playlists and not / by default |
| 21:56:37 | egandt | Thanks, |
| 21:56:38 | egandt | ERIC |
| 21:58:37 | Domonoky_ | egandt: where the playlist are stored, depends on where and how there are created.. |
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| 21:59:24 | amiconn | But rockbox failing to bookmark when the playlist is stored in the root sounds like a bug |
| 21:59:51 | amiconn | For dynamic directory playlists it already handles this case |
| 21:59:57 | amiconn | Hmm, or maybe not? |
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| 22:00:09 | * | amiconn might confuse this w/ playlist creation |
| 22:00:35 | Domonoky_ | playlist creation handels this.. ie the root.m3u.. |
| 22:00:51 | Domonoky_ | but the bookmark code, i dont know... |
| 22:01:22 | amiconn | Me neither |
| 22:01:46 | * | amiconn uses bookmarks once a year or so |
| 22:02:15 | amiconn | ...and virtually never in conjunction with a file based playlist |
| 22:02:44 | * | markun uses it for audiobooks |
| 22:03:09 | * | amiconn has no audio books |
| 22:03:12 | markun | (including ebooks read with eSpeak :) |
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| 22:03:37 | Domonoky_ | there is bookmark code for this case, but there could be bugs.. |
| 22:04:45 | AceNik_ | hey guys what does this update do ? "Allow forward references of menus in tagnavi.config." does this mean i can "point a particular directory" in database view? |
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| 22:07:05 | markun | AceNik_: it probably means you can refer to items which are further down the tagnavi file (but I don't know how to use tagnavi.config) |
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| 22:07:47 | AceNik_ | markun : is it possible to point a menu on the player in the tagnavi.config please gimme the structure if you know |
| 22:08:14 | markun | "I don't know how to use tagnavi.config" |
| 22:08:35 | AceNik_ | markun: ok thanks |
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| 22:10:39 | petur | Domonoky_: I solved the issue (yuck), what should I apt-get to install? There's so much wxwidgets files |
| 22:11:24 | AceNik_ | anyone her kno how to point a directory in the database view? |
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| 22:12:44 | Slasheri | AceNik_: that is not yet possible to do |
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| 22:12:50 | webguest53 | hello, I would like to contribute a file (FMpresets) and I don't have write permission to do it, my TWiki username is GermanGatica |
| 22:13:14 | AceNik_ | slasheri: ok ? but any idea where to start if i want to try ? |
| 22:13:17 | Domonoky_ | petur: if i could remember it... hm.. |
| 22:13:31 | Slasheri | AceNik_: check the apps/tagtree.c code |
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| 22:14:24 | petur | Domonoky_: nm, found it in our wiki |
| 22:16:49 | Domonoky_ | petur: ah .. thats new.. |
| 22:17:39 | petur | hmmm still doesn't buidl, complains about wx-config not found |
| 22:17:45 | petur | *build |
| 22:18:08 | Domonoky_ | hm, apt-get should have installed it.. |
| 22:18:25 | Domonoky_ | what happens if you type wx-config in the console ? |
| 22:19:16 | petur | it tells me where tio get it :) |
| 22:19:38 | petur | I'm adding some stuff to the wiki for later ubuntu devs... |
| 22:19:53 | Domonoky_ | wx-config is used by the make file to find the wx headers and libs.. |
| 22:20:04 | Domonoky_ | petur: thats good.. |
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| 22:28:58 | XbooX | Does anyone know how to revert to the default Display settings? changing the icons made the icons and text disapear. iPod 80GB |
| 22:29:53 | Domonoky_ | XbooX: if you switch on hold directly after boot, all settings will be cleared.. |
| 22:30:24 | Domonoky_ | or you could edit the config.cfg file on the PC with a texteditor.. |
| 22:30:46 | pixelma | webguest53: promise not to spam? ;) |
| 22:31:11 | pixelma | webguest53: but you should be able to edit the wiki now |
| 22:31:11 | webguest53 | yes, i promise |
| 22:31:29 | pixelma | :) |
| 22:31:44 | webguest53 | thank you very much |
| 22:31:53 | * | petur runs rbutil |
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| 22:32:36 | * | Domonoky_ awaits peturs comments :-) |
| 22:32:59 | * | petur does svn update to get the correct version ;) |
| 22:33:16 | XbooX | Domonoky_ i tried hold but that didnt seem to do anything |
| 22:34:02 | dionoea | Bagder: ping. |
| 22:34:08 | Domonoky_ | XbooX: if done right it should display a "cleared" splash.. |
| 22:34:12 | Bagder | yes? |
| 22:34:39 | Domonoky_ | XbooX: you switch the hold switch to late, i think.. |
| 22:34:41 | dionoea | Bagder: did the rsync download issue happen aga in? |
| 22:34:54 | Bagder | lemme check... |
| 22:35:06 | XbooX | Domonoky_: im editing the config.cfg |
| 22:35:10 | petur | Domonoky_: iriver H320,H340 detected |
| 22:35:42 | Domonoky_ | petur: nice.. :-) |
| 22:35:56 | XbooX | do you know what the default values are? |
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| 22:36:47 | Bagder | dionoea: yes it did, this morning several hours |
| 22:36:48 | markun | Domonoky_: could you also detect the disk size to display H380? |
| 22:36:59 | petur | Domonoky_: autodetection.h:47:1: warning: "/*" within comment |
| 22:37:39 | dionoea | Bagder: but you have the file list this time ? (so we can try to see what's happening) |
| 22:37:43 | Domonoky_ | petur: thanx will fix, with the next bigger commit :-) its not a problem.. |
| 22:38:23 | Domonoky_ | markun: i just check the .rockbox/rockbox-info.txt file.. |
| 22:38:28 | petur | Domonoky_: browsing themes does a lot of anoying window flashing |
| 22:38:39 | Bagder | dionoea: I thought I would but I don't see any such (it was Bjorn who changed that) |
| 22:38:46 | dionoea | erf |
| 22:38:53 | Domonoky_ | petur: yeah, but it works :-) |
| 22:38:57 | Bagder | yeah :-/ |
| 22:39:09 | dionoea | I'll enable it on my side so we get it tomorrow |
| 22:39:25 | Bagder | goodie |
| 22:39:46 | dionoea | could it be a timezone issue ? like timestamps don't match because of that |
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| 22:39:57 | * | Domonoky_ will now take a look at bacon_boys patch for nicer buttons in rbutil :-) |
| 22:40:26 | Bagder | dionoea: hang on, I think I was wrong just now... |
| 22:42:40 | Bagder | yeah I was, false alarm |
| 22:42:49 | Bagder | your rsync is doing fine |
| 22:43:02 | Bagder | I didn't properly align the sizes with the hosts |
| 22:43:06 | dionoea | ah, cool :) |
| 22:43:17 | * | dionoea can now enjoy a nice week end |
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| 22:59:36 | thebean69 | how stable is the current svn version of the iriver h120/140 bootloder? |
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| 23:00:06 | thebean69 | i want to test it out, but I don't want to brick my player |
| 23:00:22 | Domonoky_ | thats not recommended.. :-) |
| 23:00:51 | Domonoky_ | if you screw up, you would need a BDM device to recover.. or you need LinusN :-) |
| 23:01:16 | thebean69 | I found some bugs with 7-pre3 and want to see if they got fixed before I submit a bug report |
| 23:01:34 | thebean69 | what's LinusN? |
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| 23:01:49 | Domonoky_ | i think the official version is 6 ? |
| 23:02:21 | thebean69 | but with 7-pre3 you can totally eliminate the factory firmware |
| 23:02:24 | Domonoky_ | LinusN is a person, one of the founders of rockbox, and he has a bdm... :-) |
| 23:02:33 | thebean69 | I see :) |
| 23:02:48 | Domonoky_ | ah, thats the version with flash support ? |
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| 23:02:55 | thebean69 | yep |
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| 23:03:05 | Domonoky_ | i think Slasheri is the person for this :-) |
| 23:03:21 | thebean69 | 2 images - one boots directly from ROM and one is loaded into RAM first |
| 23:03:28 | Domonoky_ | hes "Mr. Flasherei" :-) |
| 23:03:34 | Domonoky_ | hes = he is |
| 23:03:38 | Slasheri | thebean69: i don't think the svn version is stable, it had some serious issued reported some time ago.. |
| 23:03:51 | Slasheri | LinusN should try it first |
| 23:04:08 | thebean69 | I won't risk it then. I like mine too much |
| 23:04:17 | Slasheri | even i am afraid of trying that because i don't have a bdm either :) |
| 23:04:41 | thebean69 | I do use multiple types at work, though. Maybe one of them would work |
| 23:04:46 | Xerion | the one that is in the iriver boot flashing or something article worked completely fine before, but when i recently updated, i can't set default boot option anymore |
| 23:04:50 | Xerion | which is a bit annoying :p |
| 23:04:50 | thebean69 | types of BDMs |
| 23:04:52 | Slasheri | and i already bricked my iriver once while developing the bootloader, fortunately it got fixed then :) |
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| 23:05:35 | Slasheri | Xerion: do you have the latest version of rockbox? |
| 23:05:44 | Slasheri | and what do you mean that you cannot set it? |
| 23:05:46 | thebean69 | Xerion - I saw that bug too. It got fixed in the latest svn version of rockbox |
| 23:05:57 | Xerion | well it's from a week ago or so |
| 23:06:02 | Xerion | not quite sure |
| 23:06:05 | thebean69 | something to do with the display loops getting optimized away |
| 23:06:07 | Slasheri | ah, then you need to update |
| 23:06:16 | Xerion | and i hadn't updated for quite a while before that :p |
| 23:06:25 | Xerion | ok, i will then soon :p |
| 23:06:41 | thebean69 | what kind of BDM would I need? |
| 23:07:15 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM |
| 23:08:01 | thebean69 | ahh |
| 23:08:39 | thebean69 | I use a wiggler BDM at work, but it only has 10 pins or so |
| 23:09:22 | Bagder | wigglers can sometimes get connected using a varying set of pins |
| 23:09:34 | Bagder | using different connectors |
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| 23:13:05 | thebean69 | does anyone here know if the text bug for the iriver remote got fixed in the latest bootloader? |
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| 23:13:45 | thebean69 | the 7-pre3 version's boot menu repeats itself (on the remote, that is) |
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| 23:17:39 | DerPapst | Good evening :) |
| 23:17:50 | thebean69 | hello |
| 23:18:26 | thebean69 | DerPapst, do you know anything about the iriver 120/140 bootloader? |
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| 23:21:05 | DerPapst | sorry... only iPod ones |
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| 23:28:17 | PaulJam | hi, i noticed something srange with the filetypecolours. when you don't use a backdrop then the text of the selected item is drawn in the custom colour instead of the backgroundcolour and if the ustom colour is only slightly different from the foregroundcolour it is hard to read. |
| 23:28:31 | PaulJam | i was wondering if this is a bug or intended |
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| 23:30:45 | Soap | GodEater_: do you use the software EQ? |
| 23:31:17 | Soap | DerPapst: do we know the 5.5g has a different battery? I was running under the belief it didn't. |
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| 23:34:15 | * | Domonoky_ thinks about embedding png images into rbutil.. would it be bad to include *.cpp files with a struct with the data in it ? ( generated of course) |
| 23:35:24 | Domonoky_ | because normally you shouldnt include .cpp files.. but xpm isnt better.. |
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| 23:36:36 | linuxstb | Do you mean #include them, or link them? |
| 23:37:01 | Domonoky_ | #include them.. |
| 23:37:34 | linuxstb | Why not just compile and link them? |
| 23:37:45 | Domonoky_ | perhaps i should modify the generator to also generate .h files.. |
| 23:38:25 | Domonoky_ | then i could compile them seperatly.. |
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| 23:43:22 | ment | hi |
| 23:44:15 | ment | I have some problem with my ipod mini (2nd), I installed rockbox on it about 3 months ago |
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| 23:44:59 | ment | and yesterday when i turned it on it freezed in the apple screen, reset didn't help |
| 23:45:29 | Soap | ment: barring a hardware failure Reset (Menu + Select) will always work if done properly. |
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| 23:47:25 | ment | when I press menu + select for ~6secs it resets, but then it freezes in apple screen again |
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| 23:49:16 | ment | and connected to usb it infinitely loops in power on -> apple screen -> backlight on -> power off |
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| 23:51:51 | PaulJam | ment: can you force it into disk mode by holding play+select immediately when it boots after resetting? |
| 23:53:36 | Soap | can you now (could you ever) hear the microdrive spin? |
| 23:53:43 | ment | wow, this works |
| 23:53:55 | ment | PaulJam: thanks |
| 23:54:15 | ment | Soap: flash based |
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| 23:54:34 | Soap | you swapped out the MD in your mini? |
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| 23:58:13 | ment | soap: ah, sorry, i thought that ipod mini is flash based |
| 23:58:55 | Soap | if you are able to mount the mini while in disk mode, and manipulate files on it, my theory of a dying microdrive is weak. |
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