| 00:00:02 | ment | the MD sounds like my old 486 hdd |
| 00:00:43 | pixelma | ment: when did you last update your rockbox build? |
| 00:00:49 | ment | and everything i can do is list root of the ipod |
| 00:01:23 | ment | pixelma: 3 months ago (build 26/3) |
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| 00:01:55 | | Quit ender` (" Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more th") |
| 00:02:01 | ment | now i got i/o error |
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| 00:02:47 | pixelma | ok, then I'll scrap my theory.. |
| 00:03:36 | ment | thanks guys |
| 00:03:42 | Soap | (and gals) |
| 00:04:11 | ment | of course |
| 00:06:12 | karim_ | hi |
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| 00:17:43 | markun | hi karim_ ! |
| 00:18:50 | karim_ | markun, hola, que tal |
| 00:19:02 | markun | bien, gracias |
| 00:19:14 | karim_ | Terminé −−00:15:41−− |
| 00:19:14 | karim_ | Téléchargement: 643 452 928 octets dans 2 fichiers |
| 00:19:32 | markun | karim_: no longer in Paris |
| 00:19:48 | karim_ | you got your year ? |
| 00:19:52 | karim_ | or diploma |
| 00:20:05 | markun | no, it was just an internship |
| 00:20:12 | karim_ | just for fun ? |
| 00:20:15 | markun | still have to finish my report |
| 00:20:19 | markun | no, part of my studies |
| 00:20:26 | karim_ | internship doesn't count ? |
| 00:20:34 | karim_ | mais tu parles français en principe :D |
| 00:20:39 | karim_ | maintenant |
| 00:20:46 | markun | well, I can manage |
| 00:21:00 | markun | and understanding is a lot better than speaking |
| 00:21:08 | markun | and writing is terrible :) |
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| 00:22:29 | karim_ | c'est bien, bon garçon |
| 00:22:42 | markun | :) |
| 00:26:01 | karim_ | hum I trying to mount an iso with fuseiso, I can't read the mount point ... |
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| 00:29:32 | | Join Darren05 [0] (n=d@86.42.1.133) |
| 00:29:52 | Darren05 | Hi |
| 00:31:14 | Darren05 | anyone here? i need a bit of help |
| 00:33:11 | DerPapst | Soap: i thought so. because i doubt that brigter LEDs increase batterie life about 4 hours ;) dunno if apple has changed anything else though. |
| 00:35:02 | * | DerPapst suggest that the IRC logs should use unicode. |
| 00:35:31 | Darren05 | im trying to install Rockbox Installer X v1, and it keeps saying There is no disk in the drive?? what do i do |
| 00:35:50 | DerPapst | use rbutil instead |
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| 00:36:23 | Darren05 | have u got a link to where u can get that> |
| 00:36:49 | Domonoky_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 00:36:54 | DerPapst | if you spell out your wrods maybe... |
| 00:37:01 | DerPapst | snap... |
| 00:37:05 | Darren05 | lol |
| 00:37:15 | * | DerPapst wanted to hit backspace and not return :P |
| 00:37:33 | DerPapst | laptop keyboards are just too tiny |
| 00:38:32 | Darren05 | get a computer then or a keyboard :P |
| 00:39:24 | | Join linuxstb [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 00:40:38 | DerPapst | i'm too lazy to take a big keyboard with me everytime i want to use my läptop |
| 00:40:43 | linuxstb | DerPapst: I thought Apple's quoted music playback runtime (which is based on playback without backlight IIRC) was unchanged between the 5g and 5.5g? |
| 00:42:23 | DerPapst | i'mk not 100% sure about it but iirc i heard (maybe the dude in the canadian apple store told me) that 5G did 16hours of playback and the 5.5G did about 20. |
| 00:43:40 | * | DerPapst bought his 5.5G in canada about 3 days after it was announced :D |
| 00:46:56 | Darren05 | cool |
| 00:48:12 | Darren05 | what do i do to install this? |
| 00:48:29 | DerPapst | have you downloaded rbutil already? |
| 00:48:30 | Darren05 | to get themes on my ipod video |
| 00:48:35 | Darren05 | yea |
| 00:48:48 | DerPapst | afaik rbutil does install themes too |
| 00:49:02 | DerPapst | never used it though ;) |
| 00:49:36 | Darren05 | lol |
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| 00:51:10 | Darren05 | so i have to install rb installer x v1 first? |
| 00:51:24 | Darren05 | then use rbutil for themes etc |
| 00:51:27 | DerPapst | no |
| 00:51:32 | Darren05 | :( |
| 00:51:34 | DerPapst | rbutil installes rockbox |
| 00:51:45 | Darren05 | oh ok |
| 00:51:57 | linuxstb | rb installer x is old and broken. |
| 00:52:09 | DerPapst | rb installer x v1 is some odd unsupported and outdated "thing" |
| 00:52:38 | Darren05 | so ill just stick to rbutil for installing themes and all that |
| 00:53:10 | DerPapst | rbutil does anything you want (more or less). it installes rb, updates it, installes themes, freedoom wads. |
| 00:53:14 | DerPapst | a.s.o |
| 00:53:44 | Darren05 | cool |
| 00:53:58 | DerPapst | and it is an official installer |
| 00:54:13 | DerPapst | so you'll always get recent stuff |
| 00:54:55 | * | DerPapst pulls out the rbutil advertising banners |
| 00:55:23 | DerPapst | "download rbutil today and you'll get one free theme of your choise" |
| 00:55:57 | DerPapst | and below that lots of very tiny text ;) |
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| 00:56:56 | Darren05 | xD |
| 00:57:37 | PaulJam | can someone tell me how i can add an albumartist to an id3v2 tag so that rockbox reads it? |
| 00:57:52 | Darren05 | ok, whatever the hell i done now test is coming up on my ipod saying cant load rockbox.ipod: file not found |
| 00:58:05 | Darren05 | text* |
| 00:59:40 | Soap | DerPapst: on the battery issue. Only (claimed) movie playback times have increased. Audio (claimed) playback times have not increased, nor have Rockbox playback times appeared to be different between 5 and 5.5Gs. I don't _know_, but I strongly suspect there is no difference in battery. |
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| 01:01:12 | DerPapst | i think you're right |
| 01:02:08 | DerPapst | as i said that "info" is somewhen from sep 06 and might be wrong ;) |
| 01:02:39 | DerPapst | Darren05: is it a 5G or 5.5G iPod? |
| 01:03:10 | * | DerPapst is confused |
| 01:03:27 | | Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) |
| 01:03:51 | DerPapst | or at least i'm trying to confuse myself ;) |
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| 01:04:40 | Darren05 | emm |
| 01:04:49 | DerPapst | maybe because it's already 1am and i didn't get much sleep last night :P |
| 01:04:56 | Darren05 | i think its 5.5 |
| 01:05:07 | DerPapst | ha! |
| 01:05:21 | * | DerPapst 's mindscanner is running again |
| 01:05:41 | DerPapst | have you ever formated your ipod in linux? |
| 01:06:01 | Darren05 | nah |
| 01:06:46 | DerPapst | hmmm.. then my only idea went *plop* |
| 01:06:57 | Darren05 | :( |
| 01:07:05 | ansivirus | use ext2 filesystem |
| 01:07:08 | ansivirus | ? |
| 01:07:09 | Darren05 | hold on a sec, this things reckin me head |
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| 01:07:25 | DerPapst | or even hfs+ :P |
| 01:07:31 | ansivirus | reiserfs? |
| 01:07:32 | ansivirus | :P |
| 01:07:41 | ansivirus | sorry.. didn't mean to butt in :) |
| 01:09:04 | pixelma | Darren05: did you install the actual rockbox build? It sounds like only the bootloader is installed now. |
| 01:09:42 | pixelma | I don't know how rbutil works there - never used it and don't even have an Ipod |
| 01:09:44 | DerPapst | yupp.. check if there is .rockbox/rockbox.ipod on your 'Pod |
| 01:10:20 | Darren05 | right, i think its done, its in black small text |
| 01:10:39 | Darren05 | it had an error so i had to reset somthing on the ipod |
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| 01:11:04 | Darren05 | no wait lol |
| 01:11:10 | Darren05 | yea. |
| 01:11:20 | Darren05 | tis still broke :( |
| 01:11:30 | DerPapst | seens like others are confused too... |
| 01:11:49 | Darren05 | ill just start all over again |
| 01:12:01 | Darren05 | what do i do on rbutill |
| 01:12:15 | * | ansivirus is running an extremely old version of rockbox on an archos jukebox fm recorder :) |
| 01:12:25 | Domonoky_ | Darren05: what have you done ? |
| 01:12:46 | Darren05 | i tryed to install it, but it said there was no driver found |
| 01:13:06 | Darren05 | then on my ipod it was a black screen saying there was a file missin |
| 01:13:26 | Darren05 | missing* |
| 01:13:32 | Domonoky_ | you selected the correct device first ? |
| 01:14:03 | Darren05 | yea ipod video 5th gen |
| 01:14:16 | DerPapst | is rbutil up to date on the wiki (except for the new detection stuff) |
| 01:14:20 | * | Domonoky_ thinks you just installed the bootloader.. |
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| 01:14:45 | Domonoky_ | the rbutil version isnt uptodate, but it should work without problems.. |
| 01:14:47 | DerPapst | Darren05: check if there is .rockbox/rockbox.ipod on your 'Pod |
| 01:15:03 | Darren05 | 1 sec |
| 01:15:09 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:15:23 | Darren05 | ipod is in disk mode, how do u get out of it? |
| 01:15:27 | Domonoky_ | Darren05: there are 2 buttons for installation in rbutil :-) one for the bootloader, and one for rockbox.. |
| 01:15:54 | Darren05 | yea i seen that |
| 01:16:12 | Darren05 | 1sec just get this ipod fixed |
| 01:16:31 | linuxstb | Hold menu+select (after safely disconnecting) |
| 01:16:38 | * | Domonoky_ has now an rbutil version with nice buttons :-) |
| 01:16:48 | DerPapst | woohoo |
| 01:16:58 | Darren05 | :) |
| 01:18:31 | Darren05 | right its out of disk mode and it has a black screen saying loading rockbox ... Eroor! cant load rockbox.ipod: |
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| 01:18:42 | Darren05 | error* |
| 01:19:27 | Domonoky_ | have you checkt if you have this file on your device ?? |
| 01:19:37 | DerPapst | Darren05: check if there is .rockbox/rockbox.ipod on your 'Pod |
| 01:19:47 | Darren05 | how do I do that |
| 01:19:56 | DerPapst | windows explorer? |
| 01:20:12 | Darren05 | 1 sec |
| 01:20:52 | linuxstb | Did you click on the button to install Rockbox? |
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| 01:21:35 | DerPapst | Domonoky_: have you hidden that install rb button? |
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| 01:22:21 | Darren05 | i was installing the RIX and it had an error saying that it cant find the devise |
| 01:23:34 | Domonoky_ | no.. :-) |
| 01:23:51 | Domonoky_ | whats RIX ?? |
| 01:24:19 | Darren05 | rix.exe (rockbox installer v1) |
| 01:24:26 | Darren05 | :P |
| 01:24:32 | DerPapst | delete that crap |
| 01:25:05 | Darren05 | it was like 50% and it just had an error, now my ipod is having an error with a black screen |
| 01:25:19 | DerPapst | Darren05: check if there is .rockbox/rockbox.ipod on your 'Pod |
| 01:25:25 | Darren05 | and the computer wont pick it up |
| 01:25:27 | DerPapst | ^ lol |
| 01:25:34 | DerPapst | diskmode? |
| 01:25:38 | Darren05 | yup |
| 01:25:45 | Darren05 | :( |
| 01:26:03 | * | Darren05 throws the ipod against the wall |
| 01:26:13 | linuxstb | Darren05: We already told you - rb installer x is old and broken... |
| 01:26:14 | DerPapst | so it shows you the b&w diskmode screen? |
| 01:26:27 | Darren05 | yea, but this was before |
| 01:26:50 | DerPapst | does it says "Do not disconnect."? |
| 01:27:03 | linuxstb | Darren05: Then undo any damage it's done (e.g. restore your ipod with itunes), and use rbutil. |
| 01:27:47 | Darren05 | DerPapst:its just a black screen saying rockbox boot kiader verson 1.1, then it says error |
| 01:27:56 | Darren05 | loader* |
| 01:28:02 | DerPapst | that is not diskmode |
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| 01:28:35 | Darren05 | yea ano |
| 01:28:36 | DerPapst | diskmode is right after reset SELECT+PLY/PAUSE |
| 01:28:45 | Darren05 | yea |
| 01:28:52 | DerPapst | and do that while connected to a pc |
| 01:28:54 | Darren05 | ill give it another try |
| 01:30:00 | DerPapst | i guess the bootloader you've installed is too old to work with 5.5G iPods anyways. |
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| 01:30:10 | Darren05 | yea |
| 01:30:20 | Darren05 | right im in the ipod folder |
| 01:30:57 | DerPapst | good |
| 01:31:04 | DerPapst | restore with itunes |
| 01:31:21 | DerPapst | then reboot your ipod and use rbutil |
| 01:31:38 | DerPapst | and delete XIR or whatever it was called |
| 01:31:53 | Darren05 | kk |
| 01:31:55 | DerPapst | it's too old to even work with your ipod |
| 01:32:41 | Darren05 | lol im suprised someone on youtube is telling people to download this |
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| 01:33:32 | DerPapst | i guess even the video is überold |
| 01:33:50 | Darren05 | ill send u the link |
| 01:33:52 | DerPapst | dated 2006 or something |
| 01:34:02 | Darren05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz0vjTB1L94&mode=related&search= |
| 01:34:11 | Darren05 | 'how to hack an ipod' lol |
| 01:35:22 | Darren05 | lookin at the comments, it was only added recently |
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| 01:36:20 | DerPapst | yupp april 2007 |
| 01:36:24 | DerPapst | but still |
| 01:36:30 | DerPapst | better use rbutil |
| 01:37:04 | DerPapst | i'm surprised the dude who made that video suggests to use loader 2 :D |
| 01:37:16 | Darren05 | xD |
| 01:38:01 | Darren05 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WObZ2rGn4Ic&mode=related&search= |
| 01:38:06 | Darren05 | thats another one |
| 01:38:06 | * | DerPapst is using loader 2 too |
| 01:39:49 | DerPapst | avrilbgd is making lots of typos. |
| 01:40:01 | DerPapst | one of the worst videos i've ever seen. |
| 01:40:21 | Darren05 | xD |
| 01:40:29 | Darren05 | yea same |
| 01:41:04 | DerPapst | hahaha... 2:30 min... shows a video of a video playing on youtube. |
| 01:41:29 | Darren05 | lol yea |
| 01:41:55 | Darren05 | would he not just download the video and put it in.... lazy |
| 01:42:01 | Darren05 | or just make one himself |
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| 01:46:10 | Darren05 | lol @ 5.34 min |
| 01:47:06 | * | Domonoky_ commits nice buttons for rbutil :-) |
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| 01:48:02 | ComputinChuck | is there a way to improve the scroll wheel sensitivity in an ipod? |
| 01:49:57 | DerPapst | afaik no |
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| 01:50:29 | ComputinChuck | ok, it seems really slugish to me |
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| 01:55:13 | ComputinChuck | looks like there's a feature request/task entry for it |
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| 02:02:29 | DerPapst | Good night everyone :) |
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| 02:22:28 | surye | Hm... is it impossible to run both apple firmware and rockbox at the same time on an ipod video? (select on boot or something) I ask because I use the h264 video, but I really want to try rockbox |
| 02:23:59 | scorche | yes...the bootloader is dual-boot by default |
| 02:24:23 | surye | Perfect :) |
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| 02:24:57 | surye | I had a feeling from the documentation, but I couldn't find it spelled out |
| 02:25:02 | BigBambi | surye: It is possible to dual boot. The manual tells you how |
| 02:25:39 | surye | Found it! |
| 02:25:53 | BigBambi | The manual is very good# |
| 02:26:55 | BigBambi | Whilst you are free to ask questions both here and on the forums, but you will find people more inclined to help if you have read the manual first |
| 02:27:45 | BigBambi | Enjoy rockbox, it is ace (although unfortunately performance on iPods is the worst of all targets) |
| 02:27:51 | surye | Yea, I am reading through it now |
| 02:27:58 | surye | Ah, that's too bad :( |
| 02:28:12 | BigBambi | Get a iRiver, iAudio, Gigabeat etc... :) |
| 02:28:34 | surye | I like having video and 80GB :P |
| 02:28:40 | BigBambi | It is even more amazing on those (but iPod is still great) |
| 02:28:49 | BigBambi | yeah, 80 gb is nice |
| 02:29:21 | BigBambi | You will find video playback curently better in the OF on original firmware, but everything else better in RB |
| 02:30:15 | BigBambi | Be aware that on portalplayer targets (iPod, H10, Sansa), battery life is currently a bit worse in RB, but on all other targets it is better |
| 02:30:35 | surye | Is the issue for video communication with the connexant chip, or just lack of interest? |
| 02:30:45 | BigBambi | Broadcom |
| 02:30:54 | BigBambi | It is a combination: |
| 02:30:54 | surye | Oh, it's Broadcom... silly me. |
| 02:32:30 | BigBambi | The iPod hardware is completely closed, so all progress has been made by reverse engineering, or datasheets for similar but different hardware, so it is difficult. As only the iPod video has the Broadcom chip, there is less focus on behlaf of core dev's, as they tend to focus on improvements that benefit al targets |
| 02:32:36 | BigBambi | *all |
| 02:32:59 | BigBambi | However, if someone were to work out the Boradcom chip, it'd be gratefully received :) |
| 02:33:09 | surye | That certainly makes sense. |
| 02:35:07 | surye | I'm curious, how do you debug software for the ipod? |
| 02:35:17 | surye | Or any target for that matter. |
| 02:35:25 | BigBambi | Personally, I have an iRiver H160 and a Gigabeat F140, and on those the improvement is unbelievable. The only drawback for you with a 5.5G iPod, is the video and the battery life. Everything else is awesome |
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| 02:35:39 | BigBambi | Debug in what sense? |
| 02:36:14 | surye | Well, do you write code, then upload and see if it runs, or is there a process you can use gdb or some kind of runtime debugger? |
| 02:36:35 | BigBambi | I'm not an expert by any means - if you mean writing the low level code, dissambly of existing firmware in the absence of dtasheets is a first step |
| 02:36:58 | surye | I'm interested in playing with the Broadcom chip, but I have little experience in embedded programming, especially in a closed system. |
| 02:37:25 | BigBambi | Once you have some code running, yes there are debugging functions in rockbox, so you can write code for the system and look at the outputs, or for some higher levelcode use the simulator |
| 02:38:05 | BigBambi | To get the Broadcom chip going, as there is currently no real idea on how to access it you would likely have to dissamble the Apple firmware to see how they use it |
| 02:38:39 | surye | Is there any documented work by the RB team yet, notes or something, or is it totally square one? |
| 02:39:01 | BigBambi | An additional complication is that Apple likely use the Broadcom chip as a black box - they feed it data using protocols specified by Broadcom, and then different data comes out. But as I say, I am not an expert |
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| 02:39:12 | BigBambi | I don't know I'm afraid |
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| 02:39:46 | surye | Since it processes both audio and video, and seems to be touted as a complete integrated package, I'm guess the broadcome does work as a blackbox |
| 02:39:58 | BigBambi | Most core devs are European, so you are better asking later (it is 02.40 AM here) - linuxstb for instance is an iPod guru |
| 02:40:04 | surye | *integrated solution |
| 02:40:33 | BigBambi | Yes, I think so, but I don't know what the detailed level of current knowledge is |
| 02:40:36 | surye | Ah, I'm at -8 :) |
| 02:40:56 | BigBambi | +1 here, I ought to be getting to bed! |
| 02:41:02 | BigBambi | In a bit :) |
| 02:41:24 | surye | Actually, I'm at -7 right now, silly daylight savings |
| 02:41:56 | BigBambi | yeah, it always gets me. In fact, I've just moved to France from the UK, and I don't even know if it happens here! |
| 02:42:16 | BigBambi | I ought to find out by Sept/Oct time I supose |
| 02:42:21 | surye | Anyways, I must run, but I am interested in persuing this, and will try to lay some notes and groundwork if nothing else for the other devs |
| 02:42:38 | BigBambi | If you make any progress you will be lauded as a hero! |
| 02:43:27 | surye | Heh, well, I shall return. See you. |
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| 03:25:49 | webguest16 | Um... On the Bubbles plugin as well as other plugins, How many levels are there? |
| 03:27:29 | webguest16 | Anyone there? |
| 03:27:43 | webguest16 | Anyone.....? |
| 03:30:01 | scorche | there are 100 levels on bubbles...why do you ask? |
| 03:30:33 | scorche | and please have a bit more patience.. |
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| 03:32:54 | webguest16 | I was on level 65, and it seems un beatable. have any hints, oh grat scorche |
| 03:33:09 | scorche | there is no unbeatable level on bubbles |
| 03:33:20 | webguest16 | Sorry about the poor english |
| 03:33:49 | scorche | if you think 65 is hard, wait till 99... |
| 03:34:26 | webguest16 | Have you gotten through them all? What does the text show as? YOU WON? |
| 03:34:34 | scorche | no |
| 03:34:47 | scorche | errr..yes to the completed part |
| 03:35:02 | webguest16 | How hard is levle 99 |
| 03:35:05 | scorche | there is no you win animation or spalsh or anything |
| 03:35:20 | webguest16 | Bummer... |
| 03:35:35 | scorche | feel free to code one in though... |
| 03:36:23 | webguest16 | Ok. Il keep that in mind. I give kudos to whoever made that game, though |
| 03:38:55 | webguest16 | Scorche, what player do you have |
| 03:39:03 | scorche | i have a few... |
| 03:39:33 | webguest16 | Which is easier to play bubbles on? |
| 03:39:56 | scorche | each has their upsides and downsides |
| 03:42:21 | webguest16 | Hmm... I was wondering. In bubbles, can you also controll the x axis as well as the angle for the new bubble? |
| 03:42:47 | scorche | no |
| 03:43:52 | webguest16 | Would that make the game change at all as in ease? |
| 03:44:08 | scorche | likely |
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| 04:08:35 | webguest55 | can the cradle of the f40 act as a usb hub? |
| 04:09:18 | webguest55 | why does it have that extra usb slot? |
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| 04:10:30 | PhantmShado | hey, I'm looking to encode a video for rockbox |
| 04:10:45 | PhantmShado | can anyone help me as to what is supported? |
| 04:11:07 | PhantmShado | (as in what video and audio codec to use, I'm using ffmpeg for this if that's of any help) |
| 04:11:46 | Llorean | PhantmShado: See the PluginMpegplayer page on the wiki. |
| 04:11:57 | Llorean | Mpeg 2 video, mp3 audio @ 44.1 khz |
| 04:12:24 | Llorean | webguest55: In the original firmware it can access files from an external device, I believe, such as a camera. |
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| 04:16:25 | PhantmShado | how do i get to that page/ |
| 04:17:13 | PhantmShado | never mind, found it |
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| 04:56:05 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 04:56:15 | Topic | "if download.rockbox.org acts funny, use videolan.rockbox.org instead until things settle | An ad we found in Vegas: http://scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/RBmmdi.jpg" by scorche (i=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 04:56:22 | Mode | "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 04:56:24 | scorche | =) |
| 04:57:06 | toffe82 | :) |
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| 04:57:33 | scorche | Soap and i found it after you guys all left |
| 04:57:53 | toffe82 | good one ;) |
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| 05:51:55 | alienbiker99 | hmmmmm anybody know waht moos wanted? |
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| 06:44:55 | webguest64 | man i thought it would be easy to sell my S60. but i guess nobody wantz it (o well) |
| 06:45:45 | scorche | well, it isnt a rockbox target yet, and there are no guarantees it will be... |
| 06:46:32 | webguest64 | yea i thought they could use it for partz or somthing |
| 06:47:15 | webguest64 | like for the connecter or w/e there working on |
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| 06:53:04 | toffe82 | webguest64: is it working ? |
| 06:53:37 | webguest64 | yes fully |
| 06:57:30 | toffe82 | webguest64: how much do you want for it ? |
| 06:57:57 | webguest64 | well 100-185usd |
| 06:58:16 | webguest64 | somewhere in there |
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| 07:04:32 | toffe82 | webguest64: wait that some progress are done on the port of rockbox on the S and you will find a dev who want to buy it :) |
| 07:05:15 | webguest64 | yea i guess ur rite |
| 07:07:41 | toffe82 | or try ebay they all go above 180 $ |
| 07:08:01 | webguest64 | yea ill try that thx |
| 07:08:34 | toffe82 | or keep it and wait for rockbox ;) |
| 07:09:46 | webguest64 | but i just dont want it even wen rockbox comez to it |
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| 09:56:27 | pixelma | Llorean: around? |
| 09:57:01 | Llorean | Actually, yes. I just sat down about 10 minute ago |
| 09:57:50 | pixelma | :) Could you change the occurance of "cvs build" in the "Posting guidelines" ? |
| 09:59:25 | Llorean | Fixed |
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| 10:00:15 | pixelma | Thanks |
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| 10:00:51 | Llorean | It now refers specifically to the 'current build' link on the left bar so the terms are more certain. |
| 10:04:37 | pixelma | ah, even better |
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| 10:31:06 | JdGordon | evening all |
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| 10:39:46 | TiMiD[FD] | hello there |
| 10:41:25 | markun | hey TiMiD[FD] |
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| 10:43:04 | markun | TiMiD[FD]: you haven't been here in a long time, right? |
| 10:43:33 | TiMiD[FD] | oh yes |
| 10:43:37 | TiMiD[FD] | a very long time ! |
| 10:43:52 | TiMiD[FD] | I still keep an eye on the evolution of the project |
| 10:44:14 | TiMiD[FD] | that's life ! |
| 10:44:18 | amiconn | Wow, mr. multiscreen is back :) |
| 10:44:27 | TiMiD[FD] | oh you still remember ! |
| 10:44:37 | TiMiD[FD] | it has been ... 2 years ! |
| 10:44:50 | markun | are you still in japan? |
| 10:44:59 | TiMiD[FD] | yes |
| 10:45:05 | markun | nice :) |
| 10:45:06 | TiMiD[FD] | I work here now |
| 10:45:26 | TiMiD[FD] | yes working abroad is nice ! |
| 10:45:41 | TiMiD[FD] | I mean living |
| 10:45:55 | TiMiD[FD] | there is no way working could be nice .... |
| 10:46:42 | markun | well, my work is nice sometimes |
| 10:46:52 | TiMiD[FD] | sometimes ... :) |
| 10:46:59 | TiMiD[FD] | you mean during breaks ? |
| 10:47:11 | XavierGr | wow Timid long time no see! |
| 10:47:24 | TiMiD[FD] | yes ... |
| 10:47:35 | XavierGr | Still in Japan eh nice! |
| 10:47:40 | TiMiD[FD] | I've been too busy ! |
| 10:47:48 | XavierGr | I can imagine |
| 10:47:54 | XavierGr | do you like your life there at least? |
| 10:48:08 | markun | TiMiD[FD]: which player do you use these days? |
| 10:48:18 | TiMiD[FD] | if I didn't liked it I would not stay here |
| 10:48:29 | TiMiD[FD] | Japan is a nice place to stay |
| 10:48:41 | XavierGr | then I am glad that you like it :) |
| 10:49:09 | XavierGr | at sometime I will definitely visit that country |
| 10:49:46 | TiMiD[FD] | oh there are sure some spots to see here, but don't come during summer, it's HOT ! |
| 10:50:07 | | Quit ment ("sleep") |
| 10:50:11 | TiMiD[FD] | my room temperature is around 35°C now |
| 10:50:29 | XavierGr | TiMiD[FD]: can't be hotter than here |
| 10:50:32 | TiMiD[FD] | markun: I still use my almost 3 years old iriver |
| 10:50:41 | TiMiD[FD] | doing the job just fine |
| 10:51:00 | TiMiD[FD] | (had to patch the bootloader this morning to get it start but ...) |
| 10:51:26 | TiMiD[FD] | greece ... |
| 10:52:31 | markun | TiMiD[FD]: how very un-japanese of you to use the old iriver! |
| 10:52:36 | markun | and even a korean player :) |
| 10:53:03 | TiMiD[FD] | that's ok I know a lot of korean there :p |
| 10:53:14 | XavierGr | markun: well H100 is a legendary DAP :P |
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| 10:54:09 | TiMiD[FD] | yes, not gonna change it ! |
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| 10:54:46 | TiMiD[FD] | whoops got to go |
| 10:55:02 | XavierGr | bye TiMiD and come again ;) |
| 10:55:10 | TiMiD[FD] | sure :) |
| 10:55:11 | markun | take care |
| 10:55:26 | TiMiD[FD] | thank you ! |
| 10:55:31 | TiMiD[FD] | you too all ! |
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| 10:57:21 | XavierGr | has been sometime since I last saw orange in my mIRC window :P |
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| 11:02:18 | kfazz | is anyone else as excited for sansa usb as I am? |
| 11:04:07 | * | JdGordon wonders what kfazz is talking about |
| 11:04:22 | scorche | GSoC project, i imagine |
| 11:04:37 | JdGordon | phew.. I thought i missed a commit or something :p |
| 11:04:51 | scorche | petur and austrian's project |
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| 11:15:04 | PaulJam | can someone tell me if it is intended that when using custom filetypecolours the text of the selected line is drawn in the custom colour instead of the backgroundcolour when no backdrop is used? |
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| 11:17:05 | markun | kfazz: I'm not overly excited about it, but I don't own a sansa |
| 11:19:44 | kfazz | that would make sense.. |
| 11:19:49 | kfazz | i got one a few days ago |
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| 11:21:32 | beta | hey there - is it possible to get rockbox to display album art? |
| 11:21:42 | beta | i.e. the art thats built into the tag? |
| 11:21:51 | scorche | not that way, no |
| 11:22:00 | beta | will there ever be a way for that? |
| 11:23:10 | markun | perhaps |
| 11:23:39 | markun | there is a patch for album art, but it uses bmp files stored in your album folder |
| 11:23:57 | beta | ah ok |
| 11:24:27 | beta | what is rbutil? |
| 11:24:41 | markun | a rockbox installation and update utility |
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| 11:25:06 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 11:25:55 | beta | oh nice - thanks |
| 11:27:14 | markun | which player do you have? |
| 11:28:39 | beta | gigabeat f40 |
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| 11:28:47 | markun | me too |
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| 11:30:13 | beta | :-) |
| 11:30:25 | beta | i love it - its great |
| 11:30:31 | beta | better than an ipod 10 fold |
| 11:30:49 | markun | I wouldn't know |
| 11:31:04 | beta | i had an ipod for a day... sold it the next day |
| 11:31:09 | beta | and got the gigabeat |
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| 11:31:56 | markun | but without rockbox the gigabeat is quite useless for me |
| 11:32:13 | The_entropy | hello everyone |
| 11:32:20 | beta | yeah - the normal firmware isn't very good... |
| 11:32:23 | beta | hello entropy |
| 11:32:34 | beta | i just did entropy in my physics exam :-( |
| 11:32:43 | The_entropy | hehe |
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| 11:52:04 | x1jmp | What is the common way to debug Rockbox code on the player? |
| 11:53:11 | x1jmp | My personal solution is to put some splash() calls into the code, to find the point where it crashes, but it takes a lot of time |
| 11:53:47 | markun | yes, that's what I also used |
| 11:53:53 | markun | and yes, takes a lot of time |
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| 11:55:01 | markun | if you can reproduce it in the rockbox sim it becomes easier to debug |
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| 11:55:13 | PaulJam | Slasheri: little Database question: can i use more than one condition in a format line? |
| 11:56:19 | x1jmp | yes, then I can use gdb, would it be possible to let RB create core dumps on the player to use with gdb? |
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| 11:57:18 | markun | x1jmp: I don't know. Maybe you can look into it |
| 11:59:54 | x1jmp | markun: I'm not very common to gdb, I'm happy when I know how to use it at all :) |
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| 12:00:06 | markun | same here |
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| 12:04:24 | x1jmp | btw what's the use of debug builds? The don't compile on most players anyway... |
| 12:05:41 | amiconn | Debug builds only work on the archos jukeboxes, and the iriver iFP |
| 12:06:28 | Genre9mp3 | FS #7345 seems a very interesting approach for the 52 bmp-limit in WPS |
| 12:07:23 | amiconn | For these targets there is a gdb stub that allows on-target debugging with gdb. For archos it requires the serial mod, a level converter and a pc with serial i/f. |
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| 12:07:53 | amiconn | I'm not sure what's required for iFP, I only know that it uses usb communication |
| 12:10:47 | x1jmp | amiconn: then I think the debug options shouldn't be displayes for other targets in the configure script, as it has no use |
| 12:11:25 | x1jmp | s/displayes/displayed |
| 12:13:01 | Slasheri | PaulJam: yes, you can use the and (&) operator |
| 12:13:03 | petur | amiconn: could gdb be used over a usb connection if the correct implementation is made on the target? |
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| 12:13:33 | Slasheri | PaulJam: or if you need or, you can list multiple format lines with the same name |
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| 12:13:46 | Slasheri | the first match applies |
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| 12:14:11 | PaulJam | Slasheri: thanks |
| 12:16:00 | markun | petur: that's done by the usb driver of the ifp as well, right? |
| 12:16:25 | petur | I don't know, that's why I'm asking |
| 12:16:31 | markun | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/usb_serial.c?view=log&pathrev=13692 |
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| 12:16:55 | markun | I thought it was used for debugging |
| 12:18:03 | petur | wtf? I didn't even know we already had an usb driver.... |
| 12:18:13 | markun | :) |
| 12:19:29 | petur | I have to compare that chip with the one in the h300... could be used as well :) |
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| 12:21:25 | markun | petur: the player should then show up as some serial device? |
| 12:33:17 | petur | hmmm.. the isp1582 looks completely different beast :/ |
| 12:36:30 | pixie | My ipod refuses to mount or let me use fdisk and whatever to format it |
| 12:36:32 | pixie | Ideas? |
| 12:38:21 | bluebrother | tried emergency disk mode? |
| 12:39:12 | pixie | Emergency disk mode? |
| 12:39:18 | pixie | I put it into disk mode manually if that's what you mean |
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| 12:40:30 | pixie | It'll go in to diskmode normally, but won't boot, it will show a picture of a folder with an exclamation mark on it |
| 12:40:59 | pixie | And then when I plug it in while in disk mode the filesystem is just completely borked and it refuses to mount and any partition manager I try it refuses to find it |
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| 12:42:58 | bluebrother | yes, that's emergency disk mode |
| 12:43:28 | bluebrother | tried rebooting? In emergency disk mode the Ipod is just a removable drive, so you should be able accessing it. |
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| 12:48:44 | pixie | bluebrother: I've rebooted it and reset it more times than I can count |
| 12:48:48 | pixie | bluebrother: It gives the same image |
| 12:49:01 | bluebrother | pixie: tried rebooting the PC? |
| 12:49:10 | pixie | It's not the PC. |
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| 12:49:33 | Overand | pixie: sometimes windows and other OSes 'lock' a usb port, more or less |
| 12:49:38 | pixie | I don't use windows. |
| 12:49:40 | Overand | have you switched ports? |
| 12:49:41 | Overand | ah |
| 12:49:46 | Overand | any relevent info in dmesg? |
| 12:49:52 | pixie | Yes indeed |
| 12:49:53 | pixie | sec |
| 12:49:56 | bluebrother | well, afaiu the PC doesn't show the correct image. |
| 12:50:19 | Overand | there's an 'un-break your ipod' entry in the wiki |
| 12:50:26 | Overand | somewhere |
| 12:50:29 | bluebrother | so, if the Ipod is in emergency disk mode maybe the usb handling of your pc is somewhat messed up |
| 12:50:46 | Overand | emergency disk mode is a bit clunky - but i've never had it not work |
| 12:51:13 | pixie | Well if its not in emergency disk mode it refuses to go in disk mode at all |
| 12:51:18 | pixie | It just doesen't boot properly at all |
| 12:51:27 | pixie | http://pastebin.com/934577 |
| 12:51:33 | bluebrother | hmm. Sounds a bit like a broken hard disk to me :/ |
| 12:51:47 | pixie | It could be, it could not be |
| 12:51:55 | Overand | does it spin up? |
| 12:52:04 | pixie | When I boot it? |
| 12:52:24 | Overand | aye |
| 12:52:27 | pixie | Feels like it, but I could retry to be sure |
| 12:52:31 | Overand | like - can you hear the drive |
| 12:52:32 | Overand | etc |
| 12:52:51 | pixie | yes |
| 12:53:00 | Overand | that's not a terribly good loking log there |
| 12:53:02 | Overand | log sec. 0 |
| 12:53:33 | Overand | have you looked at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore ? |
| 12:53:51 | Overand | it's not likely to work, given what i'm reading here |
| 12:53:54 | pixie | Yes, but how can I do that when I can't mount it or view it |
| 12:54:08 | Overand | well, does the device itself exist? |
| 12:54:14 | Overand | /dev/sdaX |
| 12:54:17 | pixie | Weird thing is, it fucked up and couldn't boot and I had the exact same problem, but then I could mount it |
| 12:54:21 | pixie | a day later I couldn't |
| 12:54:43 | Overand | if it was a rio karma i'd tell you exactly what to do |
| 12:55:01 | pixie | fdisk just says unable to open |
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| 12:55:13 | pixie | I mean, my machine 'finds' it and calls it sda, but you can't do anything with it |
| 12:55:14 | Overand | (they had a head stiction problem, sometimes they'd power down with the heads in the middle of the patter, and when you'd fire it up again you'd end up with a drive that couldn't spin up) |
| 12:55:21 | pixie | Any other program will just say broken filesystem or nonexistant |
| 12:55:26 | bluebrother | maybe your cable is broken? |
| 12:55:38 | pixie | Then why would my ipod refuse to boot |
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| 12:55:47 | pixie | (ie. I doubt it) |
| 12:55:49 | Overand | (so on the semi-official rio forums, a rio employee gave a specific suggestion - turn it on, hold it this certain way, and slam it into your hand *really* hard, repeatedly) |
| 12:55:50 | bluebrother | hmm, good point ;-) |
| 12:55:59 | Overand | (with the angle like that, it would eventually send the head flying, unstuck |
| 12:56:00 | pixie | Well, the disk is spinning |
| 12:56:03 | pixie | So that's not the issue |
| 12:56:06 | Overand | you'd get some bad blocks, but it saved it |
| 12:56:06 | Overand | aye |
| 12:56:09 | Overand | you know what? |
| 12:56:15 | Overand | If it were me |
| 12:56:26 | Overand | I'd consider opening it and checking for lose IDE cable |
| 12:56:32 | Overand | loose even |
| 12:56:38 | Overand | is the ipod still under warranty? |
| 12:56:43 | pixie | I should think so |
| 12:56:48 | pixie | I have no idea actually |
| 12:56:54 | pixie | I'd rather not open it though |
| 12:56:56 | Overand | i'm sure there's a way to find out |
| 12:57:07 | Overand | well - if it's still under warranty then the solution seems clear |
| 12:57:09 | pixie | I could ask my parents, they got it for me :P |
| 12:57:17 | Overand | if we can't figure it out, sendit back |
| 12:57:21 | pixie | Well, even if it is under warranty, I'm not in my home country for the next two months |
| 12:57:25 | Overand | you may have a toasted drive |
| 12:57:26 | Overand | hmm |
| 12:57:54 | Overand | SCSI i/o error |
| 12:57:54 | Overand | weird |
| 12:57:55 | pixie | I just wanted to see if there was anything I could do before I try that |
| 12:58:04 | Overand | i wonder why it's using the scsi subsystem |
| 12:59:02 | bluebrother | usb disks are handled by the scsi subsystem on linux. |
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| 12:59:10 | pixie | What bluebrother said |
| 12:59:13 | Overand | hmmm |
| 12:59:18 | Overand | aye |
| 12:59:26 | Overand | i suppose that would explain why they're always SDX |
| 12:59:31 | * | Overand slaps himself in the forehead |
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| 13:00:01 | Overand | do you have another machine to potentially plug this into? |
| 13:00:19 | pixie | hm |
| 13:00:21 | Overand | i'm aware that the iPod isn't booting, but if your usb subsystem is toasted on your linux install, you may have written a, erm... 'special' firmware |
| 13:00:25 | Overand | etc |
| 13:00:27 | pixie | when I plugged it in a different port dmesg showed something different |
| 13:00:31 | Overand | yeah? |
| 13:00:38 | Overand | pastebin it up |
| 13:00:47 | pixie | sec |
| 13:01:33 | pixie | http://pastebin.com/934582 |
| 13:01:54 | Overand | hmm.. |
| 13:02:01 | Overand | Are you running fedora? |
| 13:02:10 | PaulJam | Slasheri: do you see something wrong with the following format line? it seems to only check the first condition. |
| 13:02:11 | PaulJam | %format "fmt_title_score" "%02d. %s (von %s)" tracknum title artist ? albumartist == "Various Artists" & tracknum > "0" |
| 13:02:17 | pixie | No, Debian |
| 13:02:45 | Overand | Well, that's the problem. |
| 13:02:49 | pixie | fu ;) |
| 13:02:50 | Overand | Your distro is too good for your iPod =] |
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| 13:02:58 | pixie | hahah |
| 13:03:00 | pixie | Nice one |
| 13:03:01 | Overand | I'm very much a .deb guy |
| 13:03:08 | pixie | I'm currently at debconf :P |
| 13:03:12 | Overand | I have to use CentOS for some work stuff.. and it's fine, it's just.. |
| 13:03:16 | Overand | so... windows-y |
| 13:03:31 | Overand | 'service restart nameofservice' instead of /etc/init.d/whatever restart |
| 13:03:33 | Overand | sort of stuff like that |
| 13:03:49 | Overand | doing a google query for your error is leading to some interesting results |
| 13:03:55 | Overand | alright well |
| 13:03:57 | Overand | that looks sane |
| 13:03:58 | bluebrother | Overand: you can still call /etc/init.d/scriptname ... |
| 13:03:59 | Overand | can you mount it? |
| 13:04:03 | pixie | let's see |
| 13:04:11 | Overand | bluebrother: I didn't actually * see* a /etc/init.d dir |
| 13:04:36 | Overand | or i could have been insane |
| 13:04:45 | Overand | oh - i remember, it was something else |
| 13:04:45 | bluebrother | well, it works fine on my fedora box as well as on the CentOS4 I tried. |
| 13:04:46 | pixie | When I tried that I got the same error in dmesg again |
| 13:04:58 | Overand | bluebrother: yeah |
| 13:05:01 | Overand | apparently i was smoking crack |
| 13:05:09 | Overand | I just SSHed into it and verified it |
| 13:05:16 | Overand | weird |
| 13:05:28 | Overand | maybe i had gotten myself stuck in /etc/rc.d mode |
| 13:05:48 | Overand | I keep bouncing from debian/ubuntu-server to freebsd to centos |
| 13:05:55 | Overand | pixie: really? |
| 13:05:56 | Overand | hmm |
| 13:05:58 | pixie | yeah.. |
| 13:06:03 | bluebrother | that's what I like about Fedora / CentOS: you can still use that methods / edit configurations by hand. |
| 13:06:14 | Overand | so you're not getting scsi errors until you try to mount it |
| 13:06:20 | Overand | or fdisk it? |
| 13:06:25 | bluebrother | do the same with suse and it'll trash you all configurations once you make the mistake to run yast. |
| 13:06:28 | pixie | when I try to mount it it says its nonexistant, and then dmesg changes |
| 13:06:41 | Overand | pixie: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=366081 |
| 13:07:07 | Overand | just a little food for thought |
| 13:07:56 | pixie | I wonder if it would work on windows :P |
| 13:08:09 | pixie | I once had to use windows to fsck it, and another time windows to mount it |
| 13:08:29 | pixie | But being at a linux conference the odds of a windows machine around is very slim |
| 13:09:26 | pixie | ehci is loaded here though |
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| 13:11:48 | SliMM | is there a new bootloader, because all my settings are reset after reboot :-( |
| 13:11:55 | SliMM | ipod 5g 30 GB |
| 13:13:21 | PaulJam | SliMM: have you booted with the hold switch on? |
| 13:13:34 | SliMM | of course not |
| 13:14:00 | SliMM | and from time to time i get data abort |
| 13:15:20 | bluebrother | SliMM: what's the date of your bootloader? |
| 13:15:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:15:28 | bluebrother | i.e., when did you install the bootloader? |
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| 13:15:58 | SliMM | it's the one with support for .rockbox.ipod inside /.rockbox |
| 13:16:16 | SliMM | some time before devcon 2007 (the first one) |
| 13:16:33 | bluebrother | well, I don't know exactly when that was added, but a couple of months ago a new bootloader was released. |
| 13:16:44 | SliMM | i have that one |
| 13:16:47 | linuxstb | When you boot, do you see any text, or do you just get the Apple logo and then the Rockbox splash? |
| 13:16:52 | SliMM | so it's not the bootloader |
| 13:16:56 | bluebrother | using an old bootloader with a new build usually results in data aborts while trying to play music. |
| 13:17:18 | SliMM | apple log, rockbox splash, rockbox (with default settings, like a new installation) |
| 13:17:24 | SliMM | logo* |
| 13:17:35 | SliMM | brb |
| 13:18:33 | linuxstb | Anyone have any recommendations for a 48Khz-44.1KHz resampler ? I don't care about speed, just quality. |
| 13:18:50 | Overand | linuxstb: that's an interesting question |
| 13:18:57 | Overand | are you looking for *code* or just an app to do it? |
| 13:19:27 | linuxstb | Just an app. Preferably for Linux, or capable of running under Wine. |
| 13:19:33 | Overand | well |
| 13:19:42 | Overand | i'd personally suggest using Adobe Audition aka cool edit pro |
| 13:19:46 | Overand | but that's a commercial app |
| 13:20:05 | Overand | if you could track down an old boxed version of 2.0 or 2.1 that would do a lot of amazing stuff |
| 13:20:13 | Overand | I'm prety sure it'll run under wine |
| 13:20:21 | Overand | I'm sure Audacity does it, but i don't know know it sounds |
| 13:20:21 | linuxstb | I don't need lots of amazing stuff, just a resampler... |
| 13:20:43 | Overand | http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:21:02 | Overand | I've got very mixed feelings about it - largely due to it crashing during live performane recording, heh |
| 13:22:40 | linuxstb | I would normally just use "sox" - it sounds fine to me. I was just curious to know if there's any resamplers around known to be exceptional. |
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| 13:24:47 | amiconn | linuxstb: Definitely not the rockbox resampler ;\ |
| 13:26:09 | markun | linuxstb: "Secres Rabit Code" resampler is supposed to be very good |
| 13:26:15 | markun | Secret |
| 13:26:16 | Overand | i'd say 'oh, the audacity one is probably great!' |
| 13:26:25 | Overand | but i have pretty mixed feelings about *all* the features there |
| 13:26:58 | linuxstb | markun: Yes, I saw that mentioned on HA. |
| 13:27:14 | Overand | I really hate resampling |
| 13:27:27 | Overand | linuxstb: dare I ask the application? |
| 13:27:28 | markun | linuxstb: I can't find the link to the main page, it was a japanese one |
| 13:28:38 | linuxstb | Overand: Converting a capture of a 48KHz digital broadcast to CD |
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| 13:29:39 | linuxstb | markun: Google pointed me here - http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/ |
| 13:29:47 | Maddin94 | hello, i've got a sansa e250 loaded with rockbox. can you tell me, where i can find some plugins like rockpaint? |
| 13:29:57 | bluebrother | plugins are included. |
| 13:30:01 | markun | linuxstb: yes, just found that one too, must have been confused with something else |
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| 13:30:09 | * | bluebrother points to http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 13:30:37 | bluebrother | if a plugin is not included it's either not supportet on that player or no official plugins |
| 13:31:25 | Maddin94 | bluebrother: i know, but i found this page: http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.com/. there are some plugins for other rockbox-systems. are there any plugins for my sansa, too? |
| 13:31:40 | bluebrother | no. That page is outdated anyway. |
| 13:31:58 | bluebrother | if you find the sources for those plugins you might be able building them yourself. |
| 13:32:07 | bluebrother | but I guess you would also need to adjust them. |
| 13:32:40 | Maddin94 | ok, thanks |
| 13:33:31 | bluebrother | plugins need to match the Rockbox version so I don't think it's useful to have binary plugins distributed separately somewhere anyway |
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| 13:35:08 | Maddin94 | oh, i see |
| 13:35:57 | bluebrother | to be exact, plugins don't need to match the exact version but the plugin api, which changes from time to time. |
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| 13:36:48 | Maddin94 | oh |
| 13:37:33 | amiconn | bluebrother: They don't need to match the exact api version, just something between min api version and current |
| 13:40:47 | amiconn | And the very reason for this mechanism was to make life easier for third party plugins |
| 13:41:27 | amiconn | But the mechanism wasn't used much, and to day with the dozens of targets it makes less sense than ever |
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| 13:44:04 | Maddin94 | nice support. thanks! |
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| 13:48:15 | bluebrother | oh, wasn't aware of the min api version thing. Hopefully I'll remember once the question comes up again ;-) |
| 13:49:22 | Maddin94 | but in wikipedia i read from a dictionary-plugin, is it available for sansa-rockbox, too? |
| 13:55:54 | x1jmp | Maddin94: the dict plugin is available on all targets |
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| 14:01:23 | Maddin94 | oh, i have found in on my sansa |
| 14:01:38 | Maddin94 | thanks |
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| 14:37:16 | Bertrix | Hi |
| 14:37:25 | Bertrix | is it technically possible to get touchwhell input on an ipod with the hold switch on? |
| 14:38:57 | markun | I'm not sure |
| 14:38:59 | Bertrix | since my hold switch is broken, in the on position |
| 14:39:19 | bluebrother | afaik it's possible. |
| 14:39:22 | markun | I believe the buttons are disabled in hardware by the hold switch |
| 14:39:33 | Bertrix | markun, that is what i was wondering |
| 14:39:43 | bluebrother | can't you just open up the Ipod and switch the broken hold switch? |
| 14:40:02 | bluebrother | hmm. Doesn't rockboy use the hold switch for some function? |
| 14:40:02 | Bertrix | i'm afraid to damage the housing |
| 14:40:21 | Bertrix | if all else fails, that'll be the only option ofcourse |
| 14:40:30 | Bertrix | since apple refuses RMA |
| 14:40:31 | markun | it would be my 1st option |
| 14:40:36 | bluebrother | well, can you turn on the Ipod with hold enabled btw? |
| 14:40:43 | Bertrix | yeah |
| 14:40:55 | bluebrother | my Ipod doesn't turn on with hold enabled. |
| 14:40:59 | Bertrix | by inserting usb cable and pulling it straight out againg, it goes to rockbox, which resets since hold is on |
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| 14:41:35 | bluebrother | ah. Usually I don't have a usb cable and port around when I want to use the player ... |
| 14:42:30 | bluebrother | what Ipod is it btw? Opening is quite easy on the mini. |
| 14:42:49 | Bertrix | nano |
| 14:42:57 | Bertrix | 2nd gen |
| 14:43:11 | Bertrix | damn typo 1'st gen |
| 14:43:47 | bluebrother | hmm. No idea about the nano. But I guess there are enough opening guides around on the web. |
| 14:43:55 | pixie | Suppose my ipod is broken.. |
| 14:43:58 | pixie | Should send it in |
| 14:44:01 | pixie | But I think my warranty is void |
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| 14:44:06 | pixie | Because its 1,5 years |
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| 14:44:11 | Bertrix | tried, but they refuse to give warranty |
| 14:44:12 | pixie | And I think the warranty is one year. |
| 14:44:17 | Bertrix | although in belgium they should give 2 years |
| 14:44:39 | Bertrix | i'll never buy one again |
| 14:44:49 | Bertrix | had a problem after 6 months |
| 14:45:05 | pixie | I've never had problems until this exact moment |
| 14:45:07 | Bertrix | "thats a user error that your usb cable is broeken" |
| 14:45:31 | Bertrix | it was half open even in the box when it was new, just became worse |
| 14:50:24 | Bertrix | aha |
| 14:50:34 | Bertrix | i pushed the hold button really hard, now it's stuck in off position |
| 14:53:33 | Bertrix | now need a way to lock the keys in software the touchwheel goes crazy in my pocket |
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| 15:03:26 | Domonoky | Bertrix: if you can code, a software lock is possible.. |
| 15:03:43 | Bertrix | yeah I can code, i'm reading the input code now |
| 15:03:46 | Bertrix | shouldn't be that hard |
| 15:03:55 | Domonoky | Bertrix: the functionality is already there (used with the archos players) |
| 15:04:22 | Domonoky | the old archos player didnt had a hold, so there is a software hold somewhere |
| 15:04:29 | Bertrix | now only find a good way how ti trigger it |
| 15:04:38 | Bertrix | something that wont happen in my pocket |
| 15:04:46 | Domonoky | a button combination. |
| 15:04:49 | Bertrix | yeah |
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| 15:18:10 | petur | I think there's already some virtual hold code in rockbox |
| 15:18:49 | petur | And I once wrote a patch for somebody to use play (long press) as hold but that was for an iriver |
| 15:19:32 | SliMM | well, i wasn't right back, but i now am back |
| 15:19:38 | petur | Bertrix: petur/virtual_hold.patch">http://users.telenet.be/petur/virtual_hold.patch |
| 15:19:52 | SliMM | i don't think it's the bootloader |
| 15:19:53 | petur | but it was just for recording |
| 15:20:17 | SliMM | if you haven't recently released a bootloader (in the past week or so) i have, tha latest one |
| 15:20:38 | SliMM | sorry for the typos |
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| 15:22:26 | * | petur takse back his last line, that patch wasn't just for recording |
| 15:22:38 | petur | *takes |
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| 15:35:05 | Bertrix | petur, tx |
| 15:37:58 | PaulJam | SliMM: you could try running chkdsk in case there is a corrupt filesystem preventing rockbox from saving/loading the config. |
| 15:38:21 | SliMM | how do i do that? :) |
| 15:38:34 | PaulJam | are you using windows? |
| 15:38:41 | SliMM | yes :-< |
| 15:42:47 | PaulJam | then goto start=>run and enter "cmd". and then type "chkdsk H: /F" (replace the "H:" with the driveletter of your player) in the console. |
| 15:52:45 | Bertrix | damnit |
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| 15:53:03 | Bertrix | the hold is back on now, so i opened and flipped the switch |
| 15:53:12 | Bertrix | still on hold, the switch is broken internally... |
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| 15:59:22 | beta | hey a tiny bug found on rockbox for gigabeat f40 |
| 15:59:38 | markun | beta: only one? :) |
| 15:59:42 | beta | ha :-P |
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| 16:00:54 | beta | when i'm playing a song and stop/pause it mid way, and then go and select a different song, it will play the song that was previously playing for about a second or so before swapping to the new song... maybe there should be some way of flushing out the buffer on loading a track? |
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| 16:01:26 | markun | beta: ok, I'll try to reproduce it |
| 16:01:34 | beta | ok |
| 16:03:05 | markun | do you have crossfading on? |
| 16:03:08 | beta | nope |
| 16:03:34 | markun | it happens both when stopped and when paused? |
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| 16:03:43 | beta | i believe so.. let me check |
| 16:05:34 | beta | more so on pause than stop, but yes on both |
| 16:05:35 | markun | with pausing I can reproduce it |
| 16:05:43 | markun | I'll try stop again |
| 16:05:50 | beta | stop seems like it does it a LOT less |
| 16:05:52 | beta | but it's still there |
| 16:06:22 | beta | a millisecond maybe |
| 16:06:34 | markun | I can't hear it |
| 16:06:46 | beta | hm.. hang on let me try again.. |
| 16:07:04 | markun | perhaps it depends on other settings |
| 16:07:51 | beta | my mistake |
| 16:07:53 | beta | just on pause |
| 16:08:53 | beta | anyway, there you go! i'd better get off... I expect to see a bug fix in the next 5 minutes... haha :-P |
| 16:08:58 | markun | :) |
| 16:09:03 | markun | I'm not that quick |
| 16:09:09 | beta | hehe - see you! |
| 16:09:13 | markun | bye bye |
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| 16:14:33 | shitwolf | Hi everyone! |
| 16:15:05 | petur | hi |
| 16:15:08 | shitwolf | I just got my ipod color repaired after having it laying around useless in a drawer for about a year.... |
| 16:15:34 | shitwolf | I installed rockbox on it last year, but i forgot all bout how i did it. |
| 16:15:55 | petur | shitwolf: check out RockboxUtility |
| 16:16:09 | shitwolf | Now i see there's finally a movieplayer and everything, and would like to upgrade my rockbox-version. |
| 16:16:32 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
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| 16:18:16 | markun | shitwolf: some info on the movie player: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 16:19:48 | shitwolf | but, what i was wondering... to upgrade to a newer version, is all i have to do download it and unpack it to root level on my ipod (and rename the already existing .rockbox dir to .rockob.old)? |
| 16:20:38 | petur | shitwolf: your bootloader will be too old, install the newer one |
| 16:21:16 | petur | and remove rockbox.ipod from the root |
| 16:21:48 | petur | try http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 16:22:26 | shitwolf | ok. thanks! but will i have to install the bootloader for everytime i want to upgrade? or is it just that i have one thats one year old? |
| 16:22:39 | petur | just because itÅ› so old |
| 16:22:52 | petur | things changed quite a bit in 1 year |
| 16:23:25 | * | petur curses the int.keyboard implementation of linux |
| 16:23:36 | shitwolf | cool! is the rockboxutil stable and safe from linux? |
| 16:24:29 | petur | should work |
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| 16:25:22 | shitwolf | nice! just got visitors, so i'll have to go ahead with it tomorrow. I'll probably be back to bug you then. |
| 16:25:38 | shitwolf | thanks for the advice and keep up the good work! |
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| 16:25:53 | petur | haha, I'm probably not here tomorrow :) |
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| 16:29:25 | petur | Domonoky: what do I need to do to make rbutil build again after your commit? make clean didn't help |
| 16:29:56 | Domonoky | ah, you have to build bin2c in the icons dir.. |
| 16:30:16 | Domonoky | and run bin2c like this: "bin2c *.png" |
| 16:30:53 | bluebrother | petur: I added some Makefile thingy shortly ago on my tree. |
| 16:30:56 | Domonoky | then you have to adatp the Makefile so it builds and links those generated files to rbutil.. |
| 16:31:12 | petur | gimme :) |
| 16:31:16 | Domonoky | bluebrother: you made some Makefile for this ? |
| 16:31:26 | Domonoky | bluebrother: check it in if it works :-) |
| 16:31:30 | bluebrother | I extended the Makefile a bit. |
| 16:35:02 | bluebrother | what do you think about that? I'm not sure if I should handle the icons that way ... http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil-icons.diff |
| 16:36:12 | petur | rbutilFrm.cpp:(.text+0xb73f): undefined reference to `rembootloader_btn_png' |
| 16:36:21 | petur | typo? |
| 16:36:36 | bluebrother | possibly. |
| 16:36:37 | Domonoky | not, thats in the generated file.. |
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| 16:37:10 | petur | bin2c made the .h and .cpp files |
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| 16:37:42 | Domonoky | and the resulting .o files are linked to rbutil ? |
| 16:38:01 | petur | seems I missed a step |
| 16:38:27 | bluebrother | petur: tried my Makefile diff or building by hand? |
| 16:38:30 | petur | why do we have a make file when there's this extra stuff to be done |
| 16:38:39 | Domonoky | hm, the makefile bluebrother posted should link it to rbutil.. |
| 16:38:49 | petur | building by hand, will now try your diff |
| 16:38:56 | bluebrother | I just rechecked, the diff works for me. |
| 16:39:02 | Domonoky | because i am no makefile guru, and Code::Blocks does it for me :-) |
| 16:39:14 | bluebrother | I also made the compiling output a bit nicer −− everyone ok with that? |
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| 16:39:33 | Domonoky | no problem, please enhance it :-) |
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| 16:40:01 | bluebrother | Makefiles aren't that hard, you just need to make sure you won't get lost in it ;-) |
| 16:40:10 | petur | ok, that worked |
| 16:40:51 | bluebrother | I was wondering if I should let to the Makefile in the icons folder the initial compiling step. |
| 16:41:17 | bluebrother | but something screwed up when I tried it. Guess I'm not good enough with Makefiles yet ;-) |
| 16:41:18 | Domonoky | would be good.. |
| 16:41:39 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 16:42:09 | bluebrother | I also somewhat dislike that I need to add all icon files to the top of the Makefile ... |
| 16:42:59 | Domonoky | we need a makefile guru.. this should be possible to avoid :-) |
| 16:43:25 | Domonoky | the bmp building system of rockbox already does something like this.. *who wrote it?* :-) |
| 16:45:56 | bluebrother | not me. But I can look into the Makefile ;-) |
| 16:46:09 | bluebrother | (well, I'm trying to do) |
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| 17:06:05 | JdGordon | PaulJam_: hey, you mentioned the line colours before... you sayign the selection shouldnt use the chosen colour? |
| 17:06:17 | * | bluebrother found a problem with this Makefile stuff |
| 17:08:54 | PaulJam_ | JdGordon: well, after i accidently removed my backdrop. i was a little bit surprised when i entered the filebrowser, because my custom colours differ only slightly form my foregroundcolour. so there was only little contrast between the selectorbar and the actual text. |
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| 17:09:52 | PaulJam_ | why doesn't the selectorbar use the custom colour? |
| 17:10:02 | JdGordon | because that looks very wierd |
| 17:10:17 | PaulJam_ | ah, ok |
| 17:10:29 | * | JdGordon thought that looked more wierd that having the text coloured |
| 17:10:36 | JdGordon | its just up to the user to set normal colours |
| 17:10:48 | JdGordon | song finshed... bed time, we'll pick this up tomrow :p |
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| 17:11:20 | markun | PaulJam_: which colour does it have now? |
| 17:11:27 | markun | always black? |
| 17:11:51 | PaulJam_ | the selectorbar uses the foregroundcolour |
| 17:12:12 | markun | and which colour were you expecting? |
| 17:13:47 | markun | maybe I should first try to find out what 'the custom colours' before I ask all these questions |
| 17:14:01 | PaulJam_ | i was expecting that the text uses the backgreundcolour/transparent like when using a backdrop. |
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| 17:16:26 | PaulJam_ | but i think there was some talk about makung the colour of the selectorbar customiseable too. |
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| 17:30:35 | bluebrother | ok, looks like I got the Makefile thing working ... somebody want to try? petur? |
| 17:31:03 | petur | yups |
| 17:31:12 | bluebrother | same url as before. |
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| 17:33:32 | petur | bluebrother: link not working? |
| 17:34:44 | bluebrother | worked for me 2 mins ago ... looks like my uni has problems with the web server atm :( |
| 17:34:54 | petur | so I see ;) |
| 17:35:46 | bluebrother | http://www.pastebin.ca/585946 |
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| 17:39:02 | petur | bluebrother: worked ok... |
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| 17:39:30 | bluebrother | ok, then I'll commit |
| 17:39:46 | Domonoky | nice.. |
| 17:40:33 | Llorean | PaulJam: Basically, I think the idea is to separate "Inverse" from "Highlight" |
| 17:41:28 | Llorean | With "Highlight" the select bar would be a user-selected color, the text would not change colors (unless text color == highlight color, in which case the text is shown as the background color, similar to currently). |
| 17:41:55 | Llorean | With "Inverse" it follows the old behaviour, the highlight bar uses the color the text would've been, and the text uses the background/backdrop color |
| 17:42:29 | Llorean | Right now it's kinda a bad point between the two |
| 17:42:39 | bluebrother | so now only the MacOS makefile is left adjusting. Don't know enough about that though ... |
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| 17:44:58 | Temar | hi |
| 17:45:03 | Domonoky | thats a job for linuxstb :-) |
| 17:45:34 | bluebrother | petur: you're on ubuntu? |
| 17:45:41 | petur | yes |
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| 17:45:54 | bluebrother | cool, so it works with my beloved dash :) |
| 17:46:03 | petur | heh |
| 17:46:50 | bluebrother | I really don't understand why ubuntu uses that as default shell. Debian, Gentoo, etc. I could imagine much more doing such a step |
| 17:47:05 | bluebrother | anyway, as it's working ... ;-) |
| 17:48:47 | Llorean | If I understand correctly, it was suggested for Debian and they rejected it. |
| 17:49:03 | Llorean | But yeah, it really doesn't seem like the kind of thing a "Just works" distribution would do. |
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| 17:50:47 | PaulJam | Llorean: thanks for the info. sounds good. |
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| 17:54:54 | sujdik | hey y'all.. can anyone tell me if there's a project to control rockbox on a pc? I mean, like a Gui to change the config.cfg, build database, these kind of things.. |
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| 17:57:28 | rab | Hey im on linux using an iPod mini 2nd gen. ipodpatcher errors when i try to install the bootloader, my ipod is at /dev/sdg |
| 17:58:30 | Domonoky | what are the errors ? |
| 17:58:48 | rab | bad boot sector size |
| 17:59:15 | rab | Sector size = 2048 bytes |
| 17:59:50 | Domonoky | have you somehow modified the contents of the hd of your ipod ? |
| 17:59:58 | rab | nope |
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| 18:00:29 | bluebrother | Domonoky: where is the used configuration stored? In rbutil.ini? |
| 18:01:03 | Domonoky | bluebrother: there are two configurations, the fixed one rbutil.ini and a user configuration.. |
| 18:01:29 | bluebrother | ok. Which is the user configuration file? |
| 18:01:38 | Domonoky | RockboxUtility.cfg |
| 18:01:45 | rab | Domonoky: can i just reformat my ipod? |
| 18:02:19 | rab | and split it back into 2 partitions, or would that be useless |
| 18:02:32 | Domonoky | rab: better not, use itunes to restore, is better.. |
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| 18:02:33 | bluebrother | should that be placed in the same folder as rbutil? |
| 18:02:44 | bluebrother | as I seem to fail finding that file |
| 18:02:52 | Domonoky | bluebrother: it gets created somewhere.. :-) |
| 18:02:54 | * | rab has no itunes :/ |
| 18:03:01 | Domonoky | depending on the system.. |
| 18:03:07 | bluebrother | "somewhere" sounds good :) |
| 18:03:30 | * | bluebrother found it. |
| 18:03:41 | Domonoky | the code says: its in the app dir, or in the normal "userDataDir" .. |
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| 18:04:16 | Domonoky | this UserDataDir is from wx and point to a fitting position, depending on the OS.. :-) |
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| 18:05:37 | * | Domonoky would suspects its somewhere in your home dir in Linux.. |
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| 18:08:46 | rab | Domonoky: what shall i do |
| 18:09:21 | Domonoky_ | i dont know, does the original firmware work ? |
| 18:09:39 | rab | yes |
| 18:10:09 | Domonoky_ | and how are you calling ipodpatcher ? |
| 18:10:30 | rab | ./ipodpatcher /dev/sdg1 |
| 18:10:42 | Domonoky_ | start it without the parameter.. |
| 18:11:00 | rab | No ipods forun |
| 18:11:01 | Domonoky_ | it should detect it it self.. |
| 18:11:03 | rab | found* |
| 18:11:25 | rab | yeah but it doesnt. |
| 18:11:29 | Domonoky_ | so, somehow you ipod hd doesnt look like a normal ipod.. |
| 18:11:45 | Domonoky_ | and you its really a mini 2g and not a nano 2g ?? :-) |
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| 18:12:01 | rab | ipod mini2g |
| 18:12:13 | sujdik | rab: why don't you download itunes, run on wine, restore your ipod and try again? |
| 18:12:24 | Domonoky_ | best would be to restore it with itunes.. |
| 18:12:31 | bluebrother | rab: have you installed something to the Ipod? Like IPL? |
| 18:12:39 | linuxstb_ | rab: ipodpatcher needs a whole disk device, not a partition - use /dev/sdg |
| 18:12:58 | rab | wait, this is a nano |
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| 18:13:06 | rab | my bad :/ |
| 18:13:07 | sujdik | O_O |
| 18:13:13 | bluebrother | besides, there is a way of manually restoring the Ipod. No urgend need for Itunes |
| 18:13:25 | sujdik | hows that? |
| 18:13:28 | bluebrother | err, it's a nano 2G or 2 Gig? |
| 18:13:54 | rab | 2ng gen |
| 18:13:59 | rab | 2 gig |
| 18:14:17 | bluebrother | Rockbox won't run on the 2nd gen Nano. |
| 18:14:17 | markun | if it's 2nd gen you are out of luck with rockbox |
| 18:14:23 | rab | damnit |
| 18:14:33 | rab | just my luck |
| 18:14:37 | bluebrother | it runs on the 2nd gen mini, but unfortunately not nano |
| 18:14:52 | markun | and it might be a long wile before we can support it if ever |
| 18:15:08 | linuxstb | Around the same time as the Zune... |
| 18:15:24 | bluebrother | nah, I guess the zune will come a tiny bit later ;-) |
| 18:15:28 | rab | what can i do with it. Ipod linux? |
| 18:15:35 | linuxstb | Sell it... |
| 18:15:53 | linuxstb | There's no third-party software you can run on it at the moment. |
| 18:16:04 | rab | shit |
| 18:16:04 | bluebrother | rab: the nano 2nd gen is a completely different beast than all other Ipods. Different hardware, and the firmware is completely encrypted |
| 18:16:16 | bluebrother | thus, nobody has run own code on that Ipod. |
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| 18:16:29 | markun | linuxstb: I even read a post about a 'zune hacker' over at zune-linux who wanted to make an OS for the zune, keep the source closed and charge money for it |
| 18:16:31 | rab | i will wait i guess |
| 18:17:04 | markun | linuxstb: such nice people over there |
| 18:17:52 | GodEater_ | markun: look on the bright side - he's going to get very frustrated trying to run his own code on it ;) |
| 18:19:41 | markun | linuxstb, GodEater_: http://www.zune-linux.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=79&pid=722#pid722 |
| 18:20:16 | markun | eh, sorry, that was not the right post I guess :) |
| 18:20:27 | rds | will someday FS #5960 be merged? |
| 18:20:58 | markun | it is the right post, I misread "at which point no part of it will be released fully opensource" |
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| 18:22:03 | bluebrother | hehe ... "you sound serious" |
| 18:24:01 | linuxstb | And a nice post from zunepet bringing him back to earth... |
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| 18:25:13 | markun | always out to ruin someone's fun :) |
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| 18:32:19 | markun | linuxstb: damn, they found us :) http://www.zune-linux.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=144&page=1 |
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| 18:37:30 | thegeek | aargh |
| 18:37:41 | markun | thegeek: what's the matter? |
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| 18:37:52 | thegeek | I sooo badly want to crush all those idiots |
| 18:38:28 | thegeek | stupid kids with stupid expectations "I'm sure it will be done eventually, _everything_ is cracked eventually" |
| 18:38:30 | thegeek | stupid |
| 18:38:50 | markun | just dreamers |
| 18:38:57 | thegeek | whenever a breakthrough happens it is usually because a few very talented people work very very hard |
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| 18:39:13 | thegeek | meh |
| 18:39:22 | thegeek | I'm preaching to the wrong guys;P |
| 18:39:29 | markun | :) |
| 18:40:14 | alienbiker99 | how long did it take to crack the cps3 or w/e its called arcade system? that just got cracked like last week |
| 18:40:51 | thegeek | exactly |
| 18:40:59 | thegeek | one very talented guy picked it up and worked on it |
| 18:44:05 | * | bluebrother looks at the front page and notices an accumulation of one first name :) |
| 18:44:46 | GodEater_ | are you only allowed to work on rbutil if you're name is Dominik now ? :) |
| 18:45:48 | petur | rofl |
| 18:46:05 | Domonoky | hehe :-) |
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| 18:48:34 | bluebrother | GodEater_: maybe? Or I shouldn't commit changes to rbutil anymore ;-) |
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| 18:48:48 | GodEater_ | hehe |
| 18:49:06 | bluebrother | but as I finally got around doing some actual work on Rockbox again ... ;-) |
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| 18:50:10 | * | Domonoky is happy to see more people working on rbutil.. |
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| 18:51:59 | * | bluebrother wonders how much work it would be to use Qt instead of wx |
| 18:53:14 | * | Domonoky thinks this is to much works.. |
| 18:53:37 | Domonoky | but it wouldnt be to bad.. but you have to rewrite many things.. |
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| 18:54:08 | thegeek | hehe |
| 18:54:28 | thegeek | the definition of the zune-linux project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_Syndrome |
| 18:54:28 | bluebrother | well, I wanted to get some knowledge of Qt anyway. Let's see how my spare time evolves, maybe I'll give it a try. |
| 18:54:58 | bluebrother | ueue |
| 18:55:13 | bluebrother | s/u/h/g |
| 18:55:42 | Domonoky | bluebrother: sure if find time to try this.. i am happy to help.. |
| 18:55:44 | thegeek | :P |
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| 18:59:07 | markun | thegeek: interesting experiments |
| 18:59:25 | thegeek | :P |
| 18:59:26 | thegeek | indeed |
| 18:59:48 | thegeek | the results are not very suprising though;) |
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| 19:09:39 | markun | thegeek: not really no |
| 19:10:43 | markun | I've noticed myself that you it feels like you know less and less the more you learn about a subject |
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| 19:13:33 | * | jhMikeS seeks to lessen his ignorance: markun, did you ever try running the Gigabeat at 399 MHz? anything preventing that that you know of? |
| 19:14:10 | markun | jhMikeS: the CPU is rated at 300MHz (the -30 suffix on the chip) so I never tried it |
| 19:14:30 | markun | there are also versions of the same chip with a -40 ad -53 suffic |
| 19:15:03 | jhMikeS | ah, I see...I just read the datasheet and saw 400Mhz. :P the -53 would be nice. |
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| 19:15:54 | markun | jhMikeS: could it be a marketing thing? |
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| 19:16:18 | markun | just putting -30 on it while it can still be clocked at 400 or maybe even 533 |
| 19:16:31 | jhMikeS | could be but iirc they make chips and test them to get a rating |
| 19:17:09 | markun | maybe the heat is not the problem but it just becomes unstable |
| 19:17:13 | jhMikeS | not every one in the batch is alike...so I suppos it amounts to having fewer rejects ... something like that |
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| 19:18:37 | alienbiker99 | wehat are you talking about? |
| 19:18:47 | markun | alienbiker99: the CPU in the Gigabeat F/X |
| 19:18:57 | jhMikeS | that what I've read about it from various overclocking sites anyway in the past |
| 19:19:29 | alienbiker99 | ah i see |
| 19:19:56 | markun | jhMikeS: we didn't seem to get a longer runtime by clocking the CPU to 200, so I guess at 400 it will not decrease either |
| 19:20:27 | Llorean | Unless we're making full use of the 400, in which case it might. |
| 19:20:31 | markun | of course |
| 19:20:32 | * | Llorean contemplates VCD again. |
| 19:20:59 | Llorean | It might be worth adding to the debug menu with a warning, at least. |
| 19:21:34 | jhMikeS | You'd really only need it with video anyway. I seriously doubt automatic boost would ever kick in for any audio except monkey's. |
| 19:21:56 | markun | jhMikeS: enabling boost did decrease the runtime |
| 19:22:06 | markun | well, CPU scaling |
| 19:22:27 | markun | I don't know what caused it, didn't think there would be a lot of overhead |
| 19:22:29 | jhMikeS | I was think 300MHz would be CPUFREQ_NORMAL, and 400MHz would be CPUFREQ_MAX |
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| 19:22:57 | markun | maybe toffe can check again with a multimeter |
| 19:23:09 | markun | or I should stop being lazy and do it myself :) |
| 19:24:33 | jhMikeS | no addition clocks are turned on for scaling, right? seems odd it should eat more power. |
| 19:24:44 | markun | yes, we thought so too |
| 19:24:57 | markun | btw, there is still a strange problem on the Gigabeat |
| 19:25:19 | markun | when you start rockbox it consumes more in idle than when playing music |
| 19:25:34 | markun | if you stop playback and go back to idle it consumes less |
| 19:25:38 | jhMikeS | ??? |
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| 19:26:12 | jhMikeS | hmmm...anything we turn on besides IIS when playback starts and don't turn off? |
| 19:26:35 | jhMikeS | what if a voice clip plays? same thing? |
| 19:26:52 | markun | we didn't test |
| 19:26:55 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=2;filename=Power.html |
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| 19:27:29 | markun | the 70mA you see is only after booting |
| 19:27:45 | markun | I don't remember what it was after playing a song, 45 maybe |
| 19:27:46 | jhMikeS | I've been messing with the pcm stuff more to have it do stops promply so while I'm in there switching stuff around... |
| 19:28:40 | markun | jhMikeS: and chance of connecting a multimeter to your gigabeat to check for yourself? |
| 19:30:10 | jhMikeS | suppose I could |
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| 19:33:34 | jhMikeS | I can't remember if I blew the safety fuse in mine ... gotta check that ... I've done it many times |
| 19:33:36 | markun | jhMikeS: from the #gigabeat logs: "cold boot : lcd on 135 lcd off 72" "wps : lcd on 98 lcd off 30" "stop song : lcd on 96 lcd off 32" |
| 19:34:57 | markun | so something is wasting an extra 40mA |
| 19:38:24 | jhMikeS | no blown fuse...good to go :) |
| 19:38:40 | markun | who knows, maybe the problem is already fixed |
| 19:38:50 | markun | jhMikeS: good luck |
| 19:40:02 | * | jhMikeS notices there's no rb revision/build date on the currents page :( |
| 19:43:32 | xOrphenochx | just tried rb before work yesterday and its pretty nice, just wish the stats on the top when not playing took the form of the theme being used |
| 19:44:22 | markun | xOrphenochx: yes, a themable status bar would be nice |
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| 19:47:27 | rds | will someday FS #5960 be merged? |
| 19:48:43 | Llorean | rds: As is noted in the comments, someone really needs to come up with a more user friendly way to do it. |
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| 19:52:28 | jhMikeS | markun: If I have this right, without scaling, there's no extra consumption at boot over stop without scaling? |
| 19:52:46 | markun | jhMikeS: I think it's with and without scaling, but not sure |
| 19:53:21 | markun | when toffe did the measurements in that document he didn't know that there was a difference before and after playing a track |
| 19:54:18 | markun | so it's possible that the idle current with no scaling was measured after playing a song |
| 19:55:45 | jhMikeS | do I have to do soldering for this? |
| 19:58:33 | markun | to measure the current you have to put the multimeter between the battery and the player, right? |
| 19:58:46 | markun | and not just on the + and - to get the voltage |
| 19:59:07 | markun | I don't know if toffe did any soldering for this |
| 19:59:08 | jhMikeS | I thought maybe I could put clips on the batt switch with the switch off |
| 19:59:46 | markun | well, then you need to make rockbox stop shutting down when the ADC returns 0 volt |
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| 20:00:47 | markun | we can check for the position of the battery switch with GPG9 |
| 20:00:59 | markun | best would be to ignore the voltage when the switch in off |
| 20:02:49 | saratoga | i haven't opened the F yet, but if you're shorting the battery switch with the DMM, rockbox should see it as closed |
| 20:03:06 | saratoga | since the DMM has an internal resistance of ~0 |
| 20:03:56 | jhMikeS | not a ganged switch? |
| 20:04:16 | * | markun is lost |
| 20:05:45 | * | jhMikeS looks for markun |
| 20:06:30 | saratoga | I don't really see what the point of having a ganged switch would be, since all it could do is switch between high and low voltage, which is all the main switch terminal does |
| 20:06:37 | saratoga | but its possible |
| 20:07:33 | saratoga | how hard is it to open the gigabeat? |
| 20:07:46 | markun | saratoga: not very hard |
| 20:07:56 | markun | saratoga: http://www.angelfire.com/bug2/gigabeat/ |
| 20:07:57 | * | jhMikeS wonders what beach the sand he found in the HD shock aborber when doing the hotswap came from |
| 20:08:33 | markun | :) |
| 20:09:02 | markun | jhMikeS: sand from a previous owner? |
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| 20:09:43 | jhMikeS | maybe toffe knows since it's one of his |
| 20:10:59 | saratoga | thats actually a pretty common connector |
| 20:11:11 | saratoga | i'll have to dig around and see if i can find one |
| 20:11:29 | saratoga | i know a lot of PC power supplies use it for the 80mm fan |
| 20:12:00 | saratoga | not a lot, but some i guess |
| 20:12:01 | * | jhMikeS is now wondering where he dropped the batt switch handle :P |
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| 20:12:18 | saratoga | ha |
| 20:15:09 | jhMikeS | using the switch is out of the question...no good clip points |
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| 20:19:44 | jhMikeS | that connector is way smaller than the fan ones that I've seen |
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| 20:26:35 | petur | for those looking for a HDD upgrade: there are three 80GB MK8007GAH on ebay for 214,95 euro (shipping from Germany) |
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| 20:48:41 | markun | jhMikeS: any luck? |
| 20:49:34 | * | jhMikeS is glad he saves old electronic for parts...an old cd player has those connectors for the motors :) |
| 20:50:53 | markun | and when you DO trow something away you find out you need it one week later |
| 20:53:20 | jhMikeS | nothing get tossed here like that, just reduced to manageable sizes |
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| 20:54:17 | jhMikeS | that CD players been here almost a decade :) |
| 20:55:40 | * | scorche is considering going over to zune-linux and writing something about exactly why we "laugh at them" in the hopes they see what they are doing wrong and fix it |
| 20:56:47 | HawkSlayer | any gigabeat hardware experts present? |
| 20:57:04 | HawkSlayer | gigabeat f10* |
| 20:57:11 | petur | heh... timing is perfect these days |
| 20:57:42 | markun | HawkSlayer: more or less |
| 20:57:42 | HawkSlayer | eh? |
| 20:57:45 | HawkSlayer | oh hm. |
| 20:58:08 | markun | HawkSlayer: sorry, didn't see your PM before |
| 20:58:14 | HawkSlayer | well this is whats wrong.. my pc doesn't read it as a drive.. but tries to install the drivers for it but fails. |
| 20:58:20 | HawkSlayer | thats alright markun. |
| 20:59:25 | HawkSlayer | it tells me to charge it all the time.. the only way i can get it to start up, is if i have the power cord plugged into it.. if its not in there it tells me to charge it.. but i kept it in over night charging. |
| 20:59:27 | markun | HawkSlayer: can you repeat in here what you told me (about the DVD charger) |
| 20:59:33 | HawkSlayer | yes.. |
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| 21:00:12 | HawkSlayer | i tried charging my gigabeat f10 with my portable dvd player charger and the mp3 player just turned off.. and ever since then it hasn't been working very well. |
| 21:00:22 | HawkSlayer | the charger is 9V |
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| 21:00:54 | markun | jhMikeS: the fuse you were talking about, is it inside the Gigabeat? |
| 21:01:29 | jhMikeS | no, in the amp meter |
| 21:02:00 | markun | HawkSlayer: are you connecting your PC directly to the Gigabeat or to the cradle? |
| 21:02:11 | HawkSlayer | directly to the gigabeat |
| 21:02:42 | markun | and you see the Gigabeat entering USB mode? |
| 21:02:51 | HawkSlayer | my pc does not read the gigabeat at all if connected to the cradle.. the gigabeat doesn't even show the usb logo when connected to the gigbeat. |
| 21:03:27 | markun | HawkSlayer: is the switch on the cradle set to "USB"? |
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| 21:03:31 | HawkSlayer | Yes. |
| 21:04:33 | markun | jhMikeS: maybe the USB2ATA bridge is fried? |
| 21:05:07 | markun | HawkSlayer: did you connect the 9V charger to the cradle or to the Gigabeat? |
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| 21:05:26 | HawkSlayer | I connected it to the Gigabeat. |
| 21:05:59 | HawkSlayer | oh and i forgot to mention that I get a System Error 00000001 message when i turn the mp3 player on. |
| 21:06:10 | markun | ah, you forgot that :) |
| 21:06:22 | markun | well, it sounds pretty bad |
| 21:06:37 | HawkSlayer | and i also tried the hot swap thing and it still won't work right... the pc still doesn't read it as a hdd. |
| 21:06:54 | markun | yes, if you get a system error the hotswap thing will not help |
| 21:07:00 | HawkSlayer | could it be the battery? and if not, would it be worth trying to replace it to see if it really is the battery or not? |
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| 21:07:45 | markun | HawkSlayer: maybe you should ask toffe when he gets back |
| 21:07:51 | markun | he has repaired a lot of Gigabeats |
| 21:08:14 | markun | perhaps you could even send it to him for repair if he has enough spare parts |
| 21:08:15 | jhMikeS | markun: that could be |
| 21:08:20 | HawkSlayer | alright will do. |
| 21:08:26 | HawkSlayer | oo that would be good. |
| 21:09:04 | jhMikeS | ok, ready to rig it up. must concentrate. no reversed polarity! |
| 21:09:44 | markun | jhMikeS: yes, be careful |
| 21:10:00 | HawkSlayer | alright, thanks markun. :) |
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| 21:10:18 | markun | HawkSlayer: some of his spare gigabeat motherboards! scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/IMG_1196.JPG">http://scorche.cleansoap.org/rockbox/images/IMG_1196.JPG |
| 21:10:27 | markun | don't know how many are still working |
| 21:11:06 | HawkSlayer | wow! thats a lot of gigabeat's! |
| 21:11:22 | markun | jhMikeS: I friend my DIY amp by putting 70 volts on it with reversed polarity.. |
| 21:11:33 | HawkSlayer | i hope he's got a working one! i'd really like to get mine fixed so i don't have to buy a new mp3 player. |
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| 21:12:00 | markun | HawkSlayer: maybe you can even upgrade if he has a 20GB drive laying around |
| 21:12:02 | jhMikeS | sure did it yourself :) |
| 21:12:22 | scorche | HawkSlayer: you have no idea how many other spare parts and gigabeats were in that pile... |
| 21:12:37 | markun | jhMikeS: but I had enough spare parts (and it was a simple chip amp) to try it again a few hours later with the right polarity :) |
| 21:12:39 | jhMikeS | I color coded the connector with permanent marker with the batt installed first |
| 21:12:44 | scorche | s/were in/he had but werent in |
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| 21:14:06 | HawkSlayer | oo i'd love to upgrade to a 20GB hdd. i already filled up the gigabeat hdd and was hoping to find a new hdd with more space. |
| 21:14:39 | HawkSlayer | but how much money would he be asking for? |
| 21:14:45 | markun | I have no idea |
| 21:15:06 | markun | maybe he doesn't even have the right parts to fix your player, so don't get your hopes up too high |
| 21:15:11 | scorche | he is quite reasonable...too reasonable many times ;) |
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| 21:15:56 | HawkSlayer | damn markun that would suck if he didn't have the right parts! bah! don't make my hopes go down now! :)... |
| 21:16:05 | HawkSlayer | well then scorche, thats good!. |
| 21:16:52 | markun | HawkSlayer: he only speaks french, so I hope you payed attention in school (just kidding) |
| 21:17:59 | markun | is it expensive to send things around the USA by mail? |
| 21:18:03 | HawkSlayer | haha, nah, i think i actually failed french :D. |
| 21:19:13 | HawkSlayer | hm, well it depends where its being sent to. if its overseas then it could be.. hm i don't really know.. possibly about $10.. i'm not 100% sure, i don't really send stuff to people via mail. i've only done it once but i didn't do it at the post office. |
| 21:19:50 | HawkSlayer | but i think i'll be able to afford it.. i can get my mom to pay for it! haha! :) |
| 21:20:29 | markun | :) |
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| 21:24:47 | markun | HawkSlayer: I will move your forum thread to the hardware section |
| 21:25:52 | HawkSlayer | alright, thanks.. sorry about that! |
| 21:26:08 | markun | (or should it be hardware/repairing ...) |
| 21:26:28 | markun | too late :) |
| 21:26:34 | HawkSlayer | lol |
| 21:27:10 | HawkSlayer | when do you expect toffe to be back? |
| 21:27:32 | markun | no idea |
| 21:27:49 | markun | be he's here almost every day I think |
| 21:28:02 | HawkSlayer | alright.. then i shall wait in here for him to return! :) |
| 21:28:50 | markun | HawkSlayer: or maybe you can send him an email: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 |
| 21:29:22 | HawkSlayer | it says his email is hidden.. should i just PM him? |
| 21:30:33 | markun | yes, PM |
| 21:30:50 | HawkSlayer | so should i tell him what i told you? |
| 21:31:15 | markun | also a good idea |
| 21:31:23 | HawkSlayer | :P |
| 21:31:51 | markun | jhMikeS: and? |
| 21:32:15 | markun | did it work and do we still have the 'cold boot' problem? |
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| 22:00:45 | jhMikeS | problem is still there |
| 22:01:14 | jhMikeS | if a voice clip is played when it boots to the menu, it's the same as if a music is played and stopped |
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| 22:08:33 | jhMikeS | isn't there battery current monitoring available? |
| 22:09:34 | amiconn | I don't know of any target that has current measuring hardware |
| 22:10:10 | jhMikeS | I thought x5 did |
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| 22:49:51 | jhMikeS | one thing I noticed already is that the audio chip is made IIS master at boot but the default for the CPU is IIS master and isn't put into slave mode until the first audio is played. |
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| 23:20:21 | scorche | the last of the DCW pictures have been uploaded |
| 23:20:26 | markun | jhMikeS: did you try to change it to slave? |
| 23:20:42 | markun | eh, I mean make the CPU master on boot |
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| 23:22:54 | jhMikeS | I'm gonna turn I2S off in system init for one and also make sure it's slave immediately before initializing the audio driver. This should be done no matter what anyway. |
| 23:23:51 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Some random thoughts regarding the pp5020: (1) maybe the 2 cores have some bits coupled in cpsr/spsr? (design bug?) (2) maybe we're setting cache mode for iram wrong, so iram is cached causing inconsistencies? |
| 23:24:35 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 23:25:35 | markun | jhMikeS: nice that you now have a tool to really tell what the impact is of optimizations and other power saving stuff like turning off the LCD controller |
| 23:25:44 | jhMikeS | amiconn: (for the logs) 1) I've wondered and of course never had it looked into 2) mpegplayer runs w/o the patch and dies a quick death if certain ram is cached |
| 23:25:46 | saratoga | i'm having a lot of trouble getting my plugin to run on the device |
| 23:25:50 | saratoga | it works great in the sim |
| 23:25:59 | saratoga | and i'm not linking any libraries outside of plugin.h |
| 23:26:17 | saratoga | is there anything else i could be forgetting? |
| 23:26:23 | markun | saratoga: what happens when you run it? |
| 23:26:43 | saratoga | undefined instruction at some random address |
| 23:26:51 | saratoga | sometimes in memory i've allocated, sometimes not |
| 23:27:10 | saratoga | right now i'm getting it at 0x0013e544 |
| 23:27:16 | saratoga | which I don't even think is in RAM |
| 23:27:19 | jhMikeS | markun: more reason to cache parts from dead electronics for a sunspot cycle :) |
| 23:28:25 | jhMikeS | the stuff I need at any moment seems to often be the oldest ... weird |
| 23:28:45 | petur | saratoga: sounds more like a bad pointer that doesn't cause a problem on the sim because the sim has no mem limitation |
| 23:33:42 | jhMikeS | saratoga: those thing often come from an incoherent cache (but that a _guess_). which player? |
| 23:33:43 | markun | jhMikeS: I don't have a lot of old stuff laying around, but a guy in my house does so I turn to him in such cases |
| 23:34:32 | saratoga | jhMikeS: Gigabeat F |
| 23:35:15 | jhMikeS | ah, then that shouldn't be a factor |
| 23:36:37 | saratoga | does the debug api have any easy way to log messages to a file on the disk while running on a target? |
| 23:36:48 | saratoga | using splash screens is kind of tricky |
| 23:37:42 | petur | logf? |
| 23:38:07 | saratoga | thanks, i'll look at that |
| 23:38:49 | petur | run configure, select advanced and then logf |
| 23:39:22 | petur | but I'm not an expert on that |
| 23:39:35 | saratoga | which file does it log to? |
| 23:40:36 | petur | don't know, I onlu used it to look at the output on the remote |
| 23:41:55 | petur | search relealed this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ChangeLog25 |
| 23:42:07 | petur | *revealed |
| 23:42:43 | petur | A new function for debugging has been introduced: logf(), which adds a message to an internal buffer. This buffer can be viewed, and dumped to a file through the "Info > Debug" menu on builds with logf support enabled. This is particularly useful on the as of yet unreleased iriver h1x0 port, where it displays the messages on the LCD remote. |
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| 23:45:03 | jhMikeS | for plugins it's LOGF() though |
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| 23:45:15 | petur | aha |
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| 23:46:28 | * | petur wonders where min and max of settings are stored these days |
| 23:46:32 | jhMikeS | maybe it should be in all places for consistency? building a plugin is detected with #ifdef PLUGIN ?? |
| 23:47:15 | jhMikeS | in the config file but there's some audio defaults hanging out the settings.c iirc |
| 23:47:37 | jhMikeS | or settings_list.c |
| 23:47:37 | petur | config file? |
| 23:47:46 | jhMikeS | config-<player>.h |
| 23:47:55 | petur | ah.. thanks |
| 23:48:42 | petur | I used to understand that part of the code but somebody rewrote it ;) |
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| 23:50:39 | saratoga | now i'm getting it rebooting on me |
| 23:50:49 | saratoga | all i changed was to add more splashes |
| 23:50:49 | petur | progress :) |
| 23:51:01 | saratoga | actually, not really a reboot, it just gives me a yellow rockbox screen |
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| 23:54:39 | jhMikeS | it's supposed to do that :P |
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| 23:56:06 | saratoga | i put two splashes back to back with no statements between them |
| 23:56:14 | saratoga | the first prints, the second does not before it crashes |
| 23:56:18 | Soul-Slayer | Hello, I'm aware there was work started (by linuxstb I believe) on the Tatung Elio? |
| 23:56:20 | saratoga | ideas |
| 23:56:34 | Soul-Slayer | Does anyone know whether it actually boots/functions at all yet? |
| 23:56:48 | petur | saratoga: you got some mem corruption I think |
| 23:57:19 | PaulJam | Soul-Slayer: see if there is a tread in the new ports forum. |
| 23:57:22 | jhMikeS | saratoga: are you using timers or anything? |
| 23:57:37 | Soul-Slayer | Okay |
| 23:58:23 | saratoga | jhMikeS: no timers or anything like that |
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| 23:58:48 | saratoga | i'm sure the memory is getting corrupted given the random messages I was getting, but i have no idea how or why |
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