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| 00:02:59 | Robin0800 | Soap,custom but I read the forum but didn't post or reply as far as ican see the patches I use are still in sync but may make more demands on the wps parser. |
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| 00:04:18 | MonkeyTamer | I have a quick question about downmixing if someone knowledgable would not mind: is it more sensible to downmix from DTS or ac3? |
| 00:06:04 | Soap | but you're not willing to test one w/o eyecandy? |
| 00:09:20 | Robin0800 | Soap, go on then I will for you leave it on over night report in morning before work |
| 00:12:03 | Soap | how do you want me to deliver it to you? |
| 00:12:04 | * | bluebrother wonders if there are free speex sample files around |
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| 00:13:08 | chrisjs169|afk | What's error 1 in make mean? |
| 00:13:51 | Febs | amiconn: after two hours, still running. I'm going to have to shutdown the test soon as I need to leave for the airport, but I'll be using Rockbox on the plane, so I should get a good sense of whether any problems remain. |
| 00:14:20 | Robin0800 | Soap, As a zip somewhere |
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| 00:15:56 | MonkeyTamer | bluebrother: http://www.speex.org/samples/ |
| 00:16:43 | bluebrother | MonkeyTamer: found that myself, but I thought about spx files, not recoded to wav |
| 00:16:46 | MonkeyTamer | oopps |
| 00:16:49 | MonkeyTamer | just noticed that |
| 00:16:56 | bluebrother | :) |
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| 00:17:09 | Soap | http://rockbox.cleansoap.org/files/rockboxpostamicon5g.zip |
| 00:18:17 | MonkeyTamer | bluebrother: found one i think http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/scrub.html |
| 00:18:26 | MonkeyTamer | just search spx |
| 00:18:45 | _Dorian | just wondering what you guys thing of including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 |
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| 00:19:20 | bluebrother | hmm. Google wasn't helpful for me. Strange. |
| 00:19:38 | MonkeyTamer | two samples on that page |
| 00:20:03 | freqmod | those speex files may be problematic... as they are stereo and when i last checked the stereo code used floating point code which was removed when the speex port was cleaned up |
| 00:20:22 | freqmod | (not that it worked well in the original port) |
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| 00:21:22 | chrisjs169|afk | user was asking me why they were getting this error (http://pastebin.ca/606534) and I think it has something to do with error 1 in make, though I can't say for sure - tips? |
| 00:21:22 | freqmod | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6760?histring=speex%20stereo |
| 00:22:46 | Robin0800 | Soap,running now |
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| 00:24:21 | _Dorian | nothing on the podcast patch? |
| 00:27:50 | * | bluebrother notices we have >1000 open tasks :( |
| 00:28:50 | pondlife | Better get closing, then.. |
| 00:29:02 | bluebrother | Bagder: rockbox.org/tracker (without trailing slash) gives me an 404. Would be nice if this automatically could redirect to rockbox.org/tracker/ (with trailing slash ;-) |
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| 00:30:47 | Segadude | Hey guys! Can rockboy play gba games? |
| 00:30:51 | bluebrother | pondlife: you really want me to close all "useless" tasks? ;-) |
| 00:31:04 | PaulJam | Segadude: no |
| 00:31:25 | Segadude | Ok is there anything that does? |
| 00:31:55 | PaulJam | Segadude: a Gameboy advanced maybe? |
| 00:31:57 | pondlife | bluebrother: I dare you :) |
| 00:32:20 | Segadude | I mean for the ipod! |
| 00:32:20 | bluebrother | pondlife: nah, I'm just too tired to do actual work *g* |
| 00:32:45 | belze_ | Segadude: if there were a plugin it would be in the current build |
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| 00:33:41 | PaulJam | I don't think the Ipod is powerful enough to run a gba emulator |
| 00:33:51 | Segadude | ok then. One more thing. Does rockboy have sound? |
| 00:33:56 | belze_ | yes |
| 00:34:11 | Segadude | PaulJam: I see |
| 00:34:40 | Segadude | Ok thanks guys! Bye! |
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| 00:34:53 | Battousai | i doubt ipod is anywhere near powerful enough |
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| 00:48:07 | Beta-guy | is there a website with thirdparty rockbox plugins? |
| 00:48:18 | bluebrother | not exactly. |
| 00:48:35 | Beta-guy | oh |
| 00:48:42 | bluebrother | there was this plugbox site but imo it doesn't make too much sense distributing binary plugins |
| 00:48:55 | bluebrother | at least not unless there is a stable release of Rockbox ... |
| 00:50:13 | alienbiker99 | you can download other plugins? |
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| 00:51:39 | bluebrother | not really |
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| 00:57:17 | pondlife | nighty night all |
| 00:57:44 | Soap | well you /could/ in theory. |
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| 00:57:50 | Soap | Doesn't mean any exist. |
| 00:58:00 | Soap | or at least any working ones that I am aware of. |
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| 01:00:22 | bluebrother | Soap: http://plugbox.rockbox-lounge.com/ |
| 01:00:36 | bluebrother | they are h300 centric and outdated as hell. |
| 01:03:22 | PaulJam | a more recent version of the calendar from that page is on the tracker. |
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| 01:03:39 | bluebrother | I'm wondering why that page is still up |
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| 01:23:45 | _Dorian | just wondering what you guys thing of including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 |
| 01:36:55 | zylche | How about adding that wikipedia plugin. mates? :/ |
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| 01:47:49 | lymeca | So I installed Rockbox on my 4th gen iPod and I love it. But if I understand correctly, I'm still using the non-free Apple boot loader. |
| 01:48:22 | lymeca | While Apple's firmware has been supplanted by Rockbox, the device is still relying on APple's boot loader to function properly. Is this correct? |
| 01:49:20 | Llorean | Yes |
| 01:49:34 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't mess with the in-flash images at all, at this time |
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| 01:52:57 | obo | amiconn: my ipod has run for 3.5 hours with the extra usleep |
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| 01:59:34 | Soap | 3 hours plus here, but on the nano |
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| 02:34:44 | Nico_P | Bagder: here ? |
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| 02:42:06 | Hilikus | hey guys |
| 02:42:15 | Hilikus | is there a way to change the resolution of the volume? |
| 02:45:59 | Soap | too fine or too coarse? |
| 02:46:54 | * | scorche doubts too coarse |
| 02:49:00 | Hilikus | too fine |
| 02:49:30 | Hilikus | too many clicks to make a significant change |
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| 02:52:57 | valis | are lockups on the iaudio X5 normal? I bought a refurbished and I want to make sure it's not dead. |
| 02:53:59 | Hilikus | ive had only a couple of lockups |
| 02:55:03 | Hilikus | so no way to change the volume resolution? |
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| 02:56:52 | Topic | "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines | Go to #rockbox-community for offtopic chat | Always remember: Rockbox = BOS" by scorche (i=HydraIRC@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
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| 03:15:07 | valis | So am I just stupid or has skinning not been fully implemented on the iaudio? My display only seems to show the backdrop. |
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| 03:15:25 | scorche | you are likely trying to use a broken theme |
| 03:15:29 | krazykit | valis, sounds like a broken theme |
| 03:17:23 | valis | do you know of a theme that for sure isn't broken so I could test? |
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| 03:19:56 | valis | Would it be possible I have an old copy of the rockbox firmware? |
| 03:20:37 | krazykit | of course. |
| 03:20:52 | krazykit | why not install the newest version? downloading it takes longer than updating :P |
| 03:22:36 | valis | any advantage to grabbing the latest source? |
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| 03:22:54 | krazykit | besides loads of bugfixes, speedups, and a few new features? |
| 03:23:06 | valis | cool, thanks |
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| 03:54:39 | alienbiker99 | yo |
| 03:55:04 | alienbiker99 | whats good |
| 03:56:13 | krazykit | rockbox is good. |
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| 03:56:48 | valis | also steak |
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| 03:59:53 | sarixe | anyone know how to make md5sum or sha1sum ONLY output the sum, and not the filename? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:01:15 | krazykit | you could pipe it through awk |
| 04:01:43 | sarixe | which is...? |
| 04:01:49 | krazykit | a command line tool? |
| 04:01:58 | sarixe | i know... but what does it DO? |
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| 04:02:08 | valis | cat filename | sha1sum - | awk '{print substr($1, 0)}' |
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| 04:02:13 | valis | I think |
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| 04:02:22 | sarixe | oo |
| 04:02:26 | sarixe | that may do it |
| 04:02:37 | krazykit | i just did md5sum file|awk '{print $1}' |
| 04:02:48 | sarixe | o |
| 04:02:55 | sarixe | well that may be better, lol |
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| 04:04:06 | sarixe | worked, thanks |
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| 04:04:48 | CoolCubix | i just had md5sum a|grep -o '^[a-zA-Z0-9]*' |
| 04:05:09 | sarixe | no no... that'd do the whole line, right? |
| 04:05:21 | krazykit | yeah |
| 04:08:21 | sarixe | um... would rockbox.zip have a different sum every time it's made, if given the exact same circumstances both times? |
| 04:08:46 | krazykit | it shouldn't |
| 04:08:47 | valis | does zip have timestamp? |
| 04:09:20 | krazykit | aah. timestamp would screw it up. i think it may. |
| 04:09:20 | CoolCubix | sarixe> yeah, the only thing which could change is a timestamp inside the zip or in the zip headers-and-so |
| 04:09:35 | krazykit | the CONTENTS should have the same md5sums though. |
| 04:09:42 | sarixe | i just checked, and no |
| 04:10:06 | sarixe | it could be something in my script i'm writing |
| 04:11:48 | sarixe | it's a bash script... but running a simple "if [ -e rockbox.zip ]" wouldn't change it, right? |
| 04:12:24 | CoolCubix | no, since it doesn't do anything, even not read it |
| 04:12:36 | sarixe | right... |
| 04:16:35 | sarixe | someone want to check over the script to make sure it's not doing something weird that i'm not seeing? |
| 04:16:44 | sarixe | i'll pastebin it |
| 04:19:08 | sarixe | if pastebin responds soon... |
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| 04:20:17 | sarixe | http://pastebin.ca/606761 |
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| 04:23:02 | krazykit | sarixe, er, don't you need to add the build directory, run the configure script? |
| 04:23:13 | sarixe | i already ran the configure script |
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| 04:23:32 | krazykit | sarixe, ooh, i see what you're doing. mkay |
| 04:23:39 | sarixe | and i'm writing this for cron, so i won't be able to add input anyway |
| 04:23:55 | sarixe | if configure didn't need input, i'd include it |
| 04:24:37 | krazykit | gotcha. |
| 04:24:41 | krazykit | looks like it SHOULD work. |
| 04:24:48 | krazykit | i don't see anything that pops out as bad |
| 04:25:21 | sarixe | ya know... i actually went through it by hand |
| 04:25:31 | sarixe | and it gave me a new md5sum |
| 04:25:36 | sarixe | i must be doing something wrong |
| 04:26:15 | krazykit | how often are you running this? |
| 04:26:23 | sarixe | i'm planning on running it hourly |
| 04:26:36 | sarixe | but every time i've tested it, it gives me a new md5sum |
| 04:26:55 | krazykit | ah. thus the need for the md5summing |
| 04:27:05 | sarixe | i doubt there are THAT many changes to the svn, or are there? |
| 04:27:19 | sarixe | either way, i don't get any new files from the svn checkout command |
| 04:27:33 | sarixe | just "Checked out revision 13808." |
| 04:27:44 | CoolCubix | sarixe> wait |
| 04:27:51 | sarixe | mm? |
| 04:27:53 | CoolCubix | doesn't svn play with $id$ things ? |
| 04:28:00 | sarixe | i have no clue |
| 04:28:04 | CoolCubix | hmm |
| 04:28:15 | sarixe | as i said before (maybe you weren't around), i'm a newb to svn |
| 04:28:26 | CoolCubix | so am i |
| 04:28:44 | sarixe | either way, make doesn't do anything new either |
| 04:28:44 | krazykit | sarixe, zip preserves file creation timestamps |
| 04:29:03 | sarixe | krazykit : but if i do it all minus the svn, then i get identical md5 |
| 04:29:18 | krazykit | oh, that's strange then. |
| 04:29:25 | CoolCubix | yesterday i've read an article about how to not bother a maintainer, and one thing was not to play with those $id$ tags which are managed by the svn client itself |
| 04:29:46 | CoolCubix | maybe they change any time you checkup ? |
| 04:29:52 | sarixe | oh wait... |
| 04:29:53 | sarixe | no |
| 04:29:55 | sarixe | nevermind |
| 04:30:09 | sarixe | lol, i just made zip again, and it gave me a different md5sum |
| 04:30:19 | krazykit | yep. timestamps i bet. |
| 04:30:25 | sarixe | any way to get around thata? |
| 04:30:28 | sarixe | -a |
| 04:30:28 | krazykit | there may be a no-preserve option |
| 04:30:39 | sarixe | where would i put that though...? |
| 04:30:39 | krazykit | for the zip |
| 04:30:50 | krazykit | you'd have to edit the Makefile, of course |
| 04:30:56 | sarixe | gah... |
| 04:31:11 | krazykit | but i'm not SURE that would work, really. there may be other junk happening. |
| 04:31:21 | krazykit | but that's a start |
| 04:32:14 | sarixe | um... is there another file that would change every time the svn is updated? |
| 04:32:15 | sarixe | like |
| 04:32:25 | sarixe | say i checkout on the svn, and make |
| 04:32:32 | krazykit | you could md5 the make? |
| 04:32:39 | krazykit | the only thing is if there's a revision file |
| 04:32:48 | sarixe | hm |
| 04:32:52 | sarixe | where'd that be, i wonder? |
| 04:32:53 | CoolCubix | -X option of zip ? |
| 04:33:10 | krazykit | sarixe, probably in /rockbox/.svn somewhere |
| 04:33:13 | CoolCubix | -X Do not save extra file attributes (Extended Attributes on OS/2, uid/gid and file times on Unix). |
| 04:33:15 | CoolCubix | man zip |
| 04:33:24 | CoolCubix | dunno if it does the trick |
| 04:33:54 | CoolCubix | YAY |
| 04:33:57 | sarixe | wow, if i can use something like that, then it'll get rid of half the script's complexity |
| 04:34:06 | CoolCubix | it works for me |
| 04:34:11 | sarixe | brb |
| 04:34:19 | krazykit | actually, the Makefile seems to call buildzip.pl, if i'm reading it right |
| 04:34:25 | krazykit | i suck at make, though. |
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| 04:36:40 | _Dorian | wondering if you guys thing to including a small podcast patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7111 |
| 04:36:51 | krazykit | sarixe, i wonder if you edit tools/buildzip.pl on line 13 to "zip -X" if stuff will break |
| 04:37:03 | sarixe | back |
| 04:37:13 | sarixe | i'll try it |
| 04:37:16 | krazykit | sarixe, which means you'd need a little patch each time you updated svn, but that MIGHT do the trick |
| 04:37:35 | CoolCubix | krazykit> let's hope there are no timestamp except the zipfile's one |
| 04:37:40 | CoolCubix | i mean, in svn |
| 04:38:01 | krazykit | CoolCubix, any of that SHOULDN'T be built into the zip if the revision hasn't changed. |
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| 04:38:30 | CoolCubix | krazykit> great, so it should work :) |
| 04:39:13 | sarixe | even if it has been changed, right? |
| 04:39:21 | sarixe | it should just overwrite old files, no? |
| 04:40:04 | CoolCubix | sarixe> no, internal svn timestamps could be build into the zip |
| 04:40:17 | CoolCubix | but you don't care since it means it's a new revision |
| 04:40:41 | sarixe | could or are? |
| 04:41:04 | CoolCubix | i'm not experienced enough with svn to answer this :( |
| 04:41:11 | sarixe | lol |
| 04:41:14 | CoolCubix | but anyway |
| 04:41:15 | krazykit | if there's been a revision, it means the code has changed |
| 04:41:23 | krazykit | thus your build will have a different md5 |
| 04:41:25 | sarixe | i wouldn't say there would be a timestamp or anything |
| 04:41:40 | sarixe | but either way, if the revision changes, my script does what it should |
| 04:41:49 | CoolCubix | yes |
| 04:42:04 | CoolCubix | hm i'm wondering about somthing |
| 04:42:39 | CoolCubix | to determine if the revision has changed, your base is to look at the md5sum of the zipfile |
| 04:42:47 | PaulD | i'm trying to compile a ipod video bootloader, but it doesn't seem to be working. the make completes and created the bootloader files, but when i try to install the bootloader it doesn't work, it just loads the apple firmware. could someone help me? |
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| 04:43:04 | CoolCubix | couldn't be more economical to look at an svn intenal file which could hold the actual revision number ? |
| 04:43:13 | sarixe | yes, but i don't know where that is |
| 04:43:17 | krazykit | CoolCubix, probably, but this is more fun |
| 04:43:23 | sarixe | of course |
| 04:43:25 | krazykit | warms his house more too |
| 04:43:25 | CoolCubix | then you wouldn't be obliged to zip the whole rockbox thing |
| 04:43:45 | CoolCubix | sarixe> it's worth looking into svn internal files, i think |
| 04:44:07 | sarixe | CoolCubix : my script builds the latest rockbox automatically, and in case it's a new one, keeps it. |
| 04:44:20 | sarixe | as in: |
| 04:44:25 | CoolCubix | just grep rockbox/ recursively for <your_current_revision_number> |
| 04:44:29 | sarixe | it assumes the default ouput is rockbox.zip |
| 04:44:41 | sarixe | copies it |
| 04:44:44 | CoolCubix | sarixe> but if it ain't a new one you'd just zip everything for nothing |
| 04:44:53 | krazykit | oh sarixe |
| 04:44:53 | CoolCubix | i don't understand that |
| 04:44:55 | krazykit | heh |
| 04:45:01 | sarixe | lol |
| 04:45:14 | krazykit | rockbox/.svn/entries line 4. the revision is right there |
| 04:45:24 | sarixe | lol |
| 04:45:25 | sarixe | ok |
| 04:45:31 | CoolCubix | hm-m ^^ |
| 04:45:36 | sarixe | i'll write another script for that... compare them |
| 04:45:36 | krazykit | but then how do you compare from last time? |
| 04:45:36 | sarixe | lol |
| 04:45:42 | krazykit | that's the trick. |
| 04:45:59 | CoolCubix | and even not for economical purposes, it's just cleaner that way, i think |
| 04:46:05 | sarixe | copy entries to entries-backup, checkout svn, compare entries and entries-backup |
| 04:46:06 | CoolCubix | (i _think_) |
| 04:46:15 | sarixe | yeah, it is |
| 04:46:22 | sarixe | i'll finish this one first though |
| 04:46:29 | CoolCubix | hey sarixe you know |
| 04:46:40 | sarixe | mm? |
| 04:46:44 | CoolCubix | you can still check your md5sum |
| 04:46:52 | CoolCubix | include the two verification methods |
| 04:47:08 | CoolCubix | first check for the svn "entries" file |
| 04:47:24 | CoolCubix | if the revision has changed (at least it looks like it has changed) |
| 04:47:30 | CoolCubix | you zip the stuff |
| 04:47:40 | CoolCubix | and you still compare the md5sum with the old zipfile |
| 04:47:47 | sarixe | that's even more complicated... |
| 04:48:14 | CoolCubix | hmpf, not at all ^^ |
| 04:48:29 | sarixe | meh |
| 04:48:31 | sarixe | i'll see |
| 04:51:13 | sarixe | -X isn't what i want |
| 04:51:33 | CoolCubix | really ? |
| 04:51:38 | sarixe | yup |
| 04:51:49 | CoolCubix | it still gives different checksums ? |
| 04:52:05 | sarixe | 1> didn't work, 2> i read about it, and it's not what you thought it was |
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| 04:52:30 | sarixe | then svn checkout file it is! |
| 04:52:31 | sarixe | lol |
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| 05:03:54 | sarixe | http://pastebin.ca/606794 |
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| 05:06:23 | krazykit | sarixe, you could md5sum the file, store that in a variable (i think you can do that in bash), then update instead of backing it up |
| 05:06:26 | krazykit | your way works too though |
| 05:06:45 | krazykit | no, it doesn't |
| 05:06:54 | sarixe | no? |
| 05:06:56 | krazykit | that file gets timestamps from svn |
| 05:07:01 | krazykit | you need the 4th line |
| 05:07:05 | sarixe | bleh |
| 05:07:05 | sarixe | ok |
| 05:07:10 | krazykit | don't recall how to do that |
| 05:07:15 | krazykit | awk should do it though, somehow |
| 05:07:19 | sarixe | hm |
| 05:07:41 | krazykit | i'm no awk wizard. |
| 05:07:47 | sarixe | well lemme test this |
| 05:07:55 | sarixe | or look at that file |
| 05:08:05 | sarixe | yeah, timestampe |
| 05:08:07 | sarixe | -e |
| 05:08:37 | alienbiker99 | hey, im trying to permantly flash my h120, what do i need to do with the bootloader.iriver the wiki isnt clear |
| 05:09:02 | alienbiker99 | oh never mind |
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| 05:10:14 | sarixe | krazykit : what about line 11? |
| 05:10:21 | krazykit | that should work too |
| 05:10:33 | sarixe | is there a difference? |
| 05:10:38 | krazykit | not afaik |
| 05:10:40 | sarixe | ok |
| 05:11:52 | sarixe | now just to get a program that'll extract a line |
| 05:15:41 | alienbiker99 | oh wow the chart was cleaned up a bit on the build page |
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| 05:23:37 | alienbiker99 | damn the h120 boots fast with it flashed to rom |
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| 05:52:02 | valis | what version of gcc and friends is this built with? The switch -m5249 gives an error. |
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| 05:56:09 | sarixe | GOT IT |
| 05:56:10 | sarixe | ok |
| 05:56:16 | sarixe | lemme make sure it works |
| 05:56:20 | sarixe | then i'll pastebin it |
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| 05:56:50 | sarixe | actually, a few more things to do |
| 05:57:43 | sarixe | this isn't ready for cron |
| 05:57:47 | sarixe | it has sudo commands... |
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| 06:03:11 | krazykit | yikes |
| 06:03:13 | krazykit | like what? |
| 06:03:29 | sarixe | nah, i was able to get rid of them by changing some file permissions |
| 06:03:43 | sarixe | that of "entries", for one |
| 06:03:54 | krazykit | that's good |
| 06:06:13 | sarixe | ok, it's done |
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| 06:07:46 | sarixe | http://pastebin.ca/606847 |
| 06:10:10 | krazykit | sarixe, grep " 4" gets you the 4th line, eh? |
| 06:10:16 | sarixe | yup |
| 06:10:25 | sarixe | that's how cat puts it, anyway |
| 06:10:39 | sarixe | cat -n, gives the file with line numbers |
| 06:10:47 | krazykit | ah |
| 06:10:50 | krazykit | clever. |
| 06:11:07 | sarixe | :D |
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| 06:12:02 | krazykit | hm, that's a pretty clever script |
| 06:12:14 | sarixe | haha, and to think, i just learned scripting tonight |
| 06:12:20 | krazykit | it'd be better if it didn't require bash :P |
| 06:12:25 | krazykit | /bin/sh |
| 06:12:30 | sarixe | well |
| 06:12:37 | sarixe | it doesn't really require bash |
| 06:12:38 | krazykit | though i don't think it has anything bash-specific |
| 06:12:41 | sarixe | just that's my shell of choice |
| 06:12:48 | krazykit | i like zsh, myself |
| 06:13:12 | sarixe | never used it |
| 06:13:19 | sarixe | actually, only ever used sh and bash |
| 06:13:21 | krazykit | but i have /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash |
| 06:13:30 | krazykit | what distro do you run? |
| 06:13:34 | sarixe | ubuntu |
| 06:13:45 | krazykit | i think they link /bin/sh to /bin/bash. |
| 06:13:54 | aliask | nope |
| 06:14:00 | sarixe | yeah they do |
| 06:14:17 | sarixe | no |
| 06:14:18 | sarixe | dash |
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| 06:14:37 | aliask | Hrm, actually... my distro links it to bash. |
| 06:14:40 | sarixe | what distro are you on, krazykit ? |
| 06:14:44 | krazykit | debian sid |
| 06:14:48 | sarixe | ah |
| 06:14:53 | krazykit | so i'm obligated to hate ubuntu ;-) |
| 06:14:57 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:15:05 | sarixe | i've always wanted to try slackware |
| 06:15:12 | sarixe | i should repartition and make room for it |
| 06:15:13 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:15:16 | krazykit | bleh, yeah, if you like 1995 |
| 06:15:19 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:15:34 | krazykit | slack is ok, but you may as well use a bsd, really. |
| 06:16:03 | krazykit | the lack of any package manager is a real downside to slackware, imo. |
| 06:16:04 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:16:10 | sarixe | mm |
| 06:16:17 | sarixe | others would say it's the upside |
| 06:16:47 | krazykit | you start to fall into dependency hell without one. it can be a mess. |
| 06:16:48 | sarixe | but really, gentoo had it right |
| 06:17:04 | sarixe | emerge, with building everything in order to install |
| 06:17:07 | krazykit | except the whole "compile every goddam thing" part. |
| 06:17:10 | sarixe | no bin downloads |
| 06:17:15 | krazykit | there are binaries. |
| 06:17:18 | sarixe | well |
| 06:17:22 | krazykit | firefox, openoffice, etc. |
| 06:17:32 | sarixe | true |
| 06:17:38 | krazykit | i've tried it. it's miserable to wait. |
| 06:17:42 | sarixe | actually, yeah, it was annoying compiling everything |
| 06:17:49 | sarixe | i waited all night to get thunderbird |
| 06:17:54 | sarixe | but it ran FAST |
| 06:17:55 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:17:58 | krazykit | bullshit |
| 06:18:06 | sarixe | yeah, you got me |
| 06:18:16 | sarixe | gentoo wasn't really good |
| 06:18:16 | sarixe | lol |
| 06:18:18 | valis | portage_binhost |
| 06:18:24 | sarixe | oo |
| 06:18:27 | krazykit | they strip a lot of CFLAGS for firefox and thunderbird and oo.o |
| 06:18:35 | Soap_ | drifting |
| 06:18:41 | krazykit | yes indeed. |
| 06:19:10 | krazykit | it's bedtime anyway, after i load my fresh build |
| 06:20:06 | sarixe | alright, ttyl |
| 06:20:13 | sarixe | that'll be a new revision, then? |
| 06:20:48 | krazykit | no, no, load my build onto my player |
| 06:20:53 | sarixe | o |
| 06:21:16 | sarixe | well, now to load this script into cron |
| 06:21:19 | krazykit | i know enough C to manually patch stuff and fix some minor problems |
| 06:21:28 | sarixe | watch this: |
| 06:21:30 | sarixe | CRON! |
| 06:21:41 | sarixe | YES SIR! |
| 06:21:46 | sarixe | YOU MAY FIRE WHEN READY! |
| 06:21:53 | sarixe | AYE, CAP'N! |
| 06:22:07 | sarixe | wow, i suck at life |
| 06:22:43 | krazykit | you managed to hack together a pretty good script to build rockbox hourly. |
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| 06:26:23 | valis | iaudio's coldfire 5249 right? |
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| 06:35:40 | alienbiker99 | does the sort by album artist also sort it by artist ie Album artist: Various artist . Artist: ZZ., would it sort under various artist and under ZZ as well? |
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| 06:55:40 | valis | does only gcc 4.3.0 support -mcpu for 68k? |
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| 06:58:32 | aliask | valis: Which iaudio are you talking about? M3 or X5? |
| 06:58:40 | valis | x5 |
| 06:58:50 | aliask | Then it's got a 5250 |
| 06:59:10 | aliask | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioX5HardwareComponents |
| 06:59:26 | valis | thanks |
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| 07:00:14 | valis | I'm trying to build rockbox from source but the Makefile config produces is bad so I mostly fixed it but need to pass -mcpu to get 5250 it seems. Am I wrong? Any ideas? |
| 07:00:45 | aliask | Have you compiled gcc for m68k? |
| 07:00:51 | valis | yeah, 4.2.0 |
| 07:02:09 | valis | I looked over the docs which list -mcpu on the 68k but it was the 4.3.0 docs |
| 07:02:18 | aliask | For compiling for coldfire targets, I think we need to use gcc 3.4.x |
| 07:02:28 | aliask | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler#Step_2b_Manual_build |
| 07:02:32 | valis | ooh, I'm way off, thanks |
| 07:03:06 | valis | I was curious why the Makefile's opts were off by so much |
| 07:03:49 | valis | I was looking through local docs, guess it was pretty dumb to not look through rockbox.org, I'll try that out |
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| 08:01:03 | Robin0800 | Soap,still working after 129 songs time to commit? |
| 08:05:35 | * | amiconn just committed the fix |
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| 08:23:03 | Robin0800 | amiconn,just compiled and will test this morning |
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| 09:13:22 | * | amiconn found an interesting chinese forum post with a list of cpu types in various daps |
| 09:13:37 | amiconn | http://www.iriverhk.com/community/forum_detail.asp?id=65638&RoomID=1 google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iriverhk.com%2Fcommunity%2Fforum_detail.asp%3Fid%3D65638%26RoomID%3D1&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF8 |
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| 09:16:22 | scorche | wow...nice list |
| 09:17:43 | scorche | the PP in the 2nd gen mini has USB host... |
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| 09:22:51 | amiconn | I also found a thai forum with info about many daps, but no online translator :( At least some info is in english. http://www.thai-audiofile.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113 |
| 09:26:11 | bluebrother | hmm. What do you guys think about FS #7411 −− buildin manual? |
| 09:26:17 | * | bluebrother wants to reject this |
| 09:32:06 | * | GodEater_ thinks it should be rejected too |
| 09:32:19 | Llorean | Isn't there a "not now" or "later" option? |
| 09:32:31 | bluebrother | there is −− but what's the point? |
| 09:32:33 | Llorean | The HTML manual should be usable with the HTML viewer thingy that's in some other task, I imagine. |
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| 09:32:45 | bluebrother | a html viewer will do, and we have a request for that. |
| 09:32:49 | scorche | Llorean: havent seen you round these parts lately |
| 09:33:11 | Llorean | scorche: I've not been around much, aye. I think I'm back though |
| 09:33:32 | Llorean | bluebrother: But yeah, I guess rejection might be best. |
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| 09:35:41 | * | bluebrother thinks we should start some FS cleanup week or similar |
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| 09:37:54 | pondlife | bluebrother: Good idea |
| 09:38:06 | pondlife | Time to be ruthless |
| 09:38:12 | bluebrother | :) |
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| 09:45:26 | petur | amiconn: there's an online translator, but it doesn't translate sentences, so you get the same webpage back but when you hover over a word it gives the translation... http://www.thai2english.com/trans.html?query_id=38277 |
| 09:46:48 | petur | funny language.. cráp translates to 'polite particle' or 'yes' |
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| 11:27:05 | lymeca_ | If I see a sad iPod face am I screwed? |
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| 11:28:51 | lymeca_ | RoC_MasterMind: Okay so does it mean the iPod is screwed? |
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| 11:29:25 | lymeca_ | Now it has a picture of a folder with an exclamation mark with the Apple iPod support URL. |
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| 12:20:20 | amiconn | jhMikeS: around? |
| 12:22:33 | amiconn | Anyone else with a sansa? |
| 12:28:30 | amiconn | all quiet :| |
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| 12:29:50 | * | amiconn also learned something new about the PP5022 PLL setup |
| 12:32:43 | * | lazka has got a sansa |
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| 12:33:26 | amiconn | lazka: If you're running a recent build, could you do me a favour and look up some values? |
| 12:35:14 | lazka | amiconn: if it's not too hard, sure.. i have to update first, w8 a sec |
| 12:36:18 | amiconn | It's not difficult at all. Go to Debug->View I/O Ports, and tell me the 6 values starting with CLOCK_SRC and ending with DEV_0x34 |
| 12:37:08 | lazka | amiconn: do i need SVN or is the last one on the homepage ok? |
| 12:37:32 | amiconn | After that go to "View HW Info" (also in Debug) and tell me the PP version and the "Est. clock (kHz)" values |
| 12:38:00 | amiconn | http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-sansae200/rockbox.zip |
| 12:38:05 | amiconn | I.e. latest svn build |
| 12:40:03 | lazka | CLOCK_SRC: 10137647 |
| 12:40:33 | lazka | CLOCK_0x2C: 00000000 |
| 12:40:43 | lazka | CLOCK_0xA0: 00000000 |
| 12:41:09 | lazka | PLL_CONTROL: AA12500C |
| 12:41:29 | lazka | PLL_STATUS: 80000034 |
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| 12:41:41 | lazka | DEV_0x34: 00001010 |
| 12:42:14 | lazka | PP version: PP5022C |
| 12:42:32 | lazka | Est. clock (kHz): 80433 |
| 12:44:04 | amiconn | Thanks |
| 12:44:10 | lazka | np |
| 12:44:20 | amiconn | Very interesting... the PP5024 reports itself as PP5022C |
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| 13:28:42 | davina | ah cool you're all taking about my ipod 60gb crashing. I tested up to 2nd july build and that ok ip0od has been running for about 4 hours no stop without any probs. |
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| 13:29:51 | amiconn | davina: Get the latest svn build. Problem has been identified and fixed. |
| 13:30:04 | davina | ah wicked thx amiconn |
| 13:30:15 | davina | what was it in the end? |
| 13:31:58 | * | davina reads up about pp5024 reporting as pp5022c. thats what my ipod says in the debug |
| 13:34:16 | amiconn | Yes, and the ipod video's chip is labeled PP5021 and also reports as PP5022C |
| 13:35:53 | davina | so thats just the hardware being silly and not rockbox, making coding rather awkward i guess |
| 13:36:55 | amiconn | It's just a liitle additional (and intentional?) confusion by PortalPlayer |
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| 13:38:32 | * | stripwax tries out nintendo ds irc client! |
| 13:38:37 | davina | well its cool that you fixed it so quickly. i'd love to be able to contribute with the code somehow, but my C is not brill and the last time i tried to download everything and make a build environment it all went a bit wrong and i ended up reinstalling ubuntu lol |
| 13:38:37 | stripwax | hello! |
| 13:39:02 | davina | ds irc client? |
| 13:39:06 | stripwax | couple playlist issues on ipod |
| 13:39:25 | stripwax | 1. if playback is stopped, can't reshuffle |
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| 13:39:58 | stripwax | 2. saving playlist is slow because screen is updated every 10 tracks saved! |
| 13:40:21 | stripwax | davina - yep! part of DSOrganise homebrew |
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| 13:40:29 | davina | ah no keyboard in the ds |
| 13:40:32 | davina | oooooh |
| 13:40:37 | davina | must go looksee |
| 13:41:05 | stripwax | 3. can't stop saving because play/pause ignored - and holding down just turns ipod off! |
| 13:41:48 | stripwax | Create Playlist from main menu is wicked fast - save current playlist should be too |
| 13:42:57 | stripwax | but saving is faster if not rebuffering - but 1 means that's not easy |
| 13:42:58 | lazka | stripwax: what about a bug report? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 |
| 13:43:02 | davina | i never bother with playlists, mostly i just put the whole lot on shuffle. so far i have just over 4000 tracks so its never a dull listen |
| 13:43:20 | stripwax | on DS at mo, no web access sorry |
| 13:43:52 | stripwax | davina - how do you put the whole lot on shuffle w/o playlist? |
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| 13:44:22 | stripwax | when you add new music to device how do you 'shuffle them in' w/o playlist |
| 13:44:41 | stripwax | i think if i could i would |
| 13:46:17 | davina | stripwax, just goto database->tracks-> select a track and it loads up the dynamic playlist. takes a few seconds to do it but i tend to leave it on that mostly |
| 13:46:47 | stripwax | dynamic playlist contain all tracks? |
| 13:46:56 | stripwax | containing |
| 13:47:00 | davina | if iadd more music which i will be doing as i am going thru my cd collection right now, i just do the same process again |
| 13:47:03 | stripwax | if so, neat |
| 13:47:32 | stripwax | but won't the tracks change when you add more music? |
| 13:47:56 | davina | yeah i just use the database mostly. if i want to play a particular artist i do the same and it shuffles all the artists' tracks too |
| 13:48:34 | stripwax | i mean, if I've listened to tack Foo, then load more musiconto device and get the new random playlist, isn't there a chance i'll hear Foo again? |
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| 13:48:48 | stripwax | track |
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| 13:49:07 | davina | oh yeah there is a chance u could get the same song more than once if u reload the dynamic playlist but the more songs u get the less likely. besides the most i get to listen to in one go is maybe only 30-40mins as i drive to work |
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| 13:50:02 | stripwax | gah |
| 13:50:15 | stripwax | what happened |
| 13:50:17 | davina | oh yeah there is a chance u could get the same song more than once if u reload the dynamic playlist but the more songs u get the less likely. besides the most i get to listen to in one go is maybe only 30-40mins as i drive to work |
| 13:50:24 | davina | u logged out |
| 13:50:37 | Slasheri | stripwax: you can use the "never played tracks" entry to hear only new tracks |
| 13:50:40 | stripwax | looks like i got kicked |
| 13:50:52 | Slasheri | stripwax: you quit |
| 13:50:54 | stripwax | Slasheri - ooh, nice |
| 13:51:23 | stripwax | client said i was kicked because i didn't have a registered nick |
| 13:51:50 | Slasheri | weird.. from here it didn't look like that: |
| 13:51:54 | Slasheri | 14:49 -!- stripwax [n=stripwax@cpc1-flee2-0-0-cust583.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["DSOrganize IRC"] |
| 13:52:32 | stripwax | Slasheri - actually that's not really what i want. i don't want to hear only new tracks, i want to shuffle them in |
| 13:53:10 | stripwax | alongside my already shuffled playlist containing tracks that may well have been played at some point before |
| 13:53:17 | Slasheri | hmm.. then just go to never played tracks entry, hold down select on that to get context menu and use insert shuffled |
| 13:53:35 | Slasheri | oh, or "recently added tracks" |
| 13:53:38 | stripwax | a stable shuffle, that includes new music, basically |
| 13:54:21 | stripwax | 'all tracks' but without changing the history of what i've already listened to in this playlist |
| 13:54:40 | Slasheri | hmm.. that might be difficult |
| 13:55:05 | stripwax | i could just manually insert them randomly myself but, you know, ... |
| 13:55:37 | stripwax | rockbox knows what's recently added. would it really be that hard? |
| 13:56:07 | stripwax | (menu function to do it - doesn't have to be seamless) |
| 13:56:32 | pixelma | I think "insert shuffled" will shuffle them in after the currently playing song, so you shouldn't lose the history |
| 13:56:36 | Slasheri | surely it can be possible.. but i have no idea yet how to implement that |
| 13:56:57 | pixelma | but haven't tried myself lately |
| 13:57:08 | stripwax | pixelma but that's manual |
| 13:57:26 | stripwax | i'd have to browse myself to the music i added |
| 13:57:27 | Slasheri | and db also keeps the history of in which order tracks have been played |
| 13:58:18 | stripwax | "insert recently added tracks shuffled" would do the trick |
| 13:58:30 | Slasheri | stripwax: just modify the tag browser entry "recently added tracks" to show only the latest tracks and then "insert shuffled" that whole entry manually |
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| 13:58:54 | stripwax | Slasheri - nifty! |
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| 13:59:27 | pixelma | btw. there's someone using the nick "stripwax" around here - at least I believe it's someone else. I guess he's registered... |
| 13:59:33 | stripwax | not sure what's distinction between 'recently added' and 'latest' ? |
| 13:59:46 | stripwax | it's always and only me |
| 13:59:50 | stripwax | i am he |
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| 14:00:13 | stripwax | spelling worse today due to touchscreen |
| 14:00:14 | pixelma | ok |
| 14:00:20 | Slasheri | recently added is currently configured to show tracks from the latest 3 pc uploads or so |
| 14:00:33 | * | davina installs latest build |
| 14:00:38 | stripwax | cool. sounds ideal starting point! |
| 14:00:40 | Slasheri | you might want to modify the tagnavi configuration file to show only the latest commit |
| 14:01:03 | stripwax | many thanks Slasheri - sounds exactly what i need |
| 14:01:08 | Slasheri | :) |
| 14:01:23 | stripwax | rockbox never ceases to amaze me in its brilliance |
| 14:01:59 | stripwax | and on that note - lunchtime |
| 14:02:05 | stripwax | thanks all! |
| 14:02:26 | stripwax | davina - irc seems usable enough..! :) |
| 14:02:39 | * | stripwax closes the lid... |
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| 14:54:37 | davina | latetest build seems to be running fine thx amiconn |
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| 14:59:19 | stripwax | heyho |
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| 15:02:25 | stripwax | me adds his earlier bugs to bug tracker |
| 15:02:32 | * | stripwax gahs |
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| 15:06:49 | * | stripwax looks at topic |
| 15:06:53 | stripwax | what is BOS? |
| 15:07:08 | * | petur points to golden quotes in wiki |
| 15:07:13 | * | stripwax looks |
| 15:08:49 | petur | tip: the first quote on that page? |
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| 15:09:59 | stripwax | ah, yeah, gotcha. ABOS would make more sense but yeah. |
| 15:10:08 | * | stripwax giggles at the rest of the quotes. genius. |
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| 15:11:23 | PaulJam | isn't "Rockbox = BOS" a little bit too general? i mean surely it sounds like one, but it looks more like a piece of crap than a bag of shit. |
| 15:12:27 | petur | iirc, that user had troubles with his settings and had the EQ set up in a way that everything was distorting... |
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| 15:15:15 | amiconn | 0xba90f517 ;) |
| 15:15:25 | amiconn | hi Nico_P |
| 15:15:38 | Nico_P | hi |
| 15:15:55 | amiconn | I know why your gigabeat refused to data abort - the code I pointed you to is only executed in the bootloader... |
| 15:16:23 | stripwax | seems like a POC, sounds like a BOS |
| 15:16:25 | amiconn | But I don't think this bit should be set in the bootloader, as it might confuse the OF |
| 15:16:46 | amiconn | Or maybe it's only executed after deciding to boot rockbox? |
| 15:16:47 | Nico_P | amiconn: so what do you advise me ? recompile a bootloader with the change ? |
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| 15:17:05 | amiconn | I really don't know, maybe markun does |
| 15:17:25 | amiconn | Otherwise it should be fairly simple to set this bit somewhere in rockbox startup |
| 15:17:38 | stripwax | ok, bugs added, 7412 and 7413 |
| 15:18:09 | Nico_P | amiconn: I think I'd prefer it to be set somewhere in rockbox startup |
| 15:18:47 | Nico_P | not compiling a new bootloader sounds better :) |
| 15:19:05 | Crash91 | does anyone have/ know a copy of the rockbox logo in .svg? |
| 15:19:43 | amiconn | Can the gigabeat be recovered when a faulty bootloader got installed? |
| 15:19:57 | amiconn | Crash91: Check svn, it's there |
| 15:20:07 | Crash91 | ok |
| 15:20:09 | amiconn | (for the manual) |
| 15:20:29 | Nico_P | amiconn: yes it can, by loading the OF and then using it to install a correct bootloader |
| 15:20:48 | Nico_P | or in case of complete failure there's a procedure involving opening the gigabeat |
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| 15:23:29 | Nico_P | Bagder: ping |
| 15:25:59 | amiconn | A bit more difficult than the ipods or iaudios, but still... |
| 15:26:31 | amiconn | The irivers are afaik the most 'dangerous' targets when it comes to bootloader installation |
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| 15:27:03 | amiconn | (H1x0/H300) |
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| 15:34:42 | PaulJam | What are the chances of FS #7345 making it to SVN? |
| 15:38:00 | petur | I think it will make it ;) |
| 15:39:12 | petur | maybe it isn't 100% compatible with the idea of putting all gfx in one bmp - otoh I don't know if that idea wass killed or still on the table |
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| 15:45:17 | Nico_P | I like FS #7345 a lot |
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| 15:45:36 | Nico_P | I think it's complementary with the partial bitmaps patch |
| 15:46:02 | Nico_P | (FS #7289) |
| 15:46:10 | Nico_P | I'd like to commit them both eventually |
| 15:47:09 | Nico_P | petur: I think all pictures in one bitmap is too much of a hassle for WPS designers |
| 15:48:11 | Nico_P | anyway I think the main point of the idea was to speed up loading of WPSs and IIRC the WPS tokenizer sped up the loading |
| 15:48:19 | petur | ok |
| 15:49:06 | petur | well we can still do the 'all files in one tar/zip/whatever' |
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| 15:50:31 | Nico_P | there's a patch in the tracker for that, but linuxstb and I decided the benefits weren't really worth the extra complexity |
| 15:50:47 | Nico_P | so we kinda dropped it |
| 15:50:52 | petur | ok |
| 15:54:38 | moos | Nico_P: try maybe the mailling list for see if is there people against the idea |
| 15:55:33 | Nico_P | moos: I'll probably do that once I decide to seriously review the patches and commit them, but for now I'm focusing on my SoC :) |
| 15:56:25 | Nico_P | but the general feeling seems to be favorable |
| 15:56:34 | moos | hehe :) |
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| 15:56:58 | moos | ask amicoon for see if he is ;p |
| 15:57:09 | moos | due amiconn; sorry |
| 15:58:08 | moos | Nico_P: how goes your MOB works? |
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| 15:58:47 | Nico_P | I have the buffering API pretty much implemented |
| 15:59:05 | Nico_P | ATM I'm adding a bit of threading to test |
| 15:59:07 | moos | nice start! did you reuse JdGoedon works? |
| 15:59:22 | moos | JdGordon |
| 15:59:34 | moos | i've got problems with nicks today apparently :) |
| 15:59:42 | Nico_P | not really because when I started I only had his first version which he said didn't work |
| 15:59:52 | moos | ah ok |
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| 16:00:00 | Nico_P | so I looked at it a bit but choose to go with a different implementation |
| 16:00:13 | Nico_P | finally we both worked on the same one |
| 16:00:20 | moos | hehe :) |
| 16:00:24 | Nico_P | the code is available if you want to take a look |
| 16:00:34 | moos | link? |
| 16:00:55 | PaulJam | Nico_P: maybe this idea is a little bit naive, but wouldn't it be possible to just dump the contents of the area in memory where the bitmaps are stored to a file when loading the WPS and then on startup just copy the contents of the file to the memory instead of loading all the wps bitmaps? |
| 16:00:59 | Nico_P | it's in JdGordon's SVN: svn://jdgordon.mine.nu/mob |
| 16:01:18 | moos | I remenber the new API proposal wiki page. Do you still use it and keep it in sync? |
| 16:01:45 | Nico_P | moos: it's largely unchanged but Jd added the link to his repo |
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| 16:02:07 | Nico_P | and we stayed very close to what the page said anyway |
| 16:02:22 | moos | oki |
| 16:03:19 | Nico_P | PaulJam: that's very close to what was suggested at one point about whole WPSs... store the tokenized output in a binary file and just load that. I think we finally agreed it wasn't worth the complexity |
| 16:03:37 | PaulJam | ok |
| 16:03:48 | Nico_P | (the binary file would've probably included the bitmaps too) |
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| 16:04:30 | Nico_P | if you want to read the debate, a search on "compiled WPS" or "binary blob" should give interesting results |
| 16:04:57 | Nico_P | it was around when the tokenizer was added |
| 16:07:55 | PaulJam | i think i found it |
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| 16:17:30 | stripwax | anyone taken a look at bitmap sliding puzzle recently? |
| 16:17:49 | stripwax | patch 7218 |
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| 16:28:49 | Nico_P | can someone tell me the difference between queue_send and queue_post ? |
| 16:30:22 | Nico_P | moos: looked at the code ? |
| 16:30:46 | stripwax | how much truth is there in the following: related data arrays should be interleaved to avoid cache thrashing |
| 16:31:13 | stripwax | is it because code like "a = array1[x]; b = array2[x]" will preload a number of bytes from both array1 and array2? |
| 16:31:31 | * | stripwax has been reading some interesting (to him) intel docs on optimising for embedded cpus |
| 16:32:45 | stripwax | whereas mystruct = mystructarray[x]; mystruct.a ; mystruct.b will preload a bunch of the data in the right order (interleaved effectively) |
| 16:33:26 | * | Nico_P has no idea what stripwax is talking about |
| 16:35:09 | stripwax | thinking, if you loop over two arrays , you end up using the cache less efficiently than if you loop of one array containing (pairs of) data interleaved |
| 16:35:20 | stripwax | and wondering if there's any truth in that. hang on, i'll see if i can find the article |
| 16:35:26 | Nico_P | ah I see |
| 16:35:38 | * | stripwax was looking at rockbox vorbis coupling.c for example |
| 16:35:50 | Nico_P | well it seems quite obvious that reading the memory sequentially is better than skipping everywhere |
| 16:36:03 | stripwax | er mapping0.c not coupling.c |
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| 16:36:45 | stripwax | Nico_P- but is reading two things (sequentially) less efficient than reading one (twice as large) thing sequentially |
| 16:37:37 | Nico_P | probably not, but I'm no expert |
| 16:39:27 | davina | stripwax, yes as you have to issue two reads which will slow down i/o |
| 16:40:15 | davina | also depends on how much you are reading in one go |
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| 16:45:47 | stripwax | davina - makes sense. so would be worth taking a look at interleaving the magnitude and angle arrays in the vorbis code? |
| 16:46:08 | * | stripwax will take a look anyway. maybe that's not even inner loop stuff |
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| 16:47:49 | Rhinos | hello anyone here |
| 16:48:14 | Crash91 | hello |
| 16:50:48 | Rhinos | is there any rockbox tool for iPod nano 2nd generation? |
| 16:51:58 | krazykit | Rhinos, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6518.0 |
| 16:52:03 | krazykit | they're working on that. |
| 16:52:36 | Rhinos | ok i gonna check it out |
| 16:52:57 | stripwax | articles: http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199900652 |
| 16:53:47 | stripwax | http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199902866 |
| 16:54:07 | stripwax | suspect large portions of the latter are dubious as best tho |
| 16:56:12 | stripwax | oh and here's the one that suggests interleaving http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199904931 |
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| 16:56:35 | stripwax | Crash91: - hello |
| 16:56:40 | * | stripwax goes and reads |
| 16:57:01 | Crash91 | stripwax: hello, do i know you? :) |
| 16:58:09 | * | Crash91 goes and starts making wpss |
| 16:58:57 | * | stripwax thought we were just all saying hello |
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| 17:00:45 | Rhinos | cant find any special, because I'M looking for how to but a cool thems (style) and Video for my ipod nano 2nd generation |
| 17:01:11 | krazykit | Rhinos, the 2nd gen is currently unsupported. |
| 17:01:17 | stripwax | but they're working on it |
| 17:01:33 | krazykit | already linked the forum topic, too. |
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| 17:04:02 | Rhinos | so no chance for it to make a different style |
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| 17:04:12 | Rhinos | an build a video |
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| 17:07:50 | krazykit | Rhinos, not yet, anyway. |
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| 17:13:05 | PaulJam | can the uisimulator simulate main and remote hold switches? |
| 17:13:31 | Crash91 | What is the purpose of an "Advanced" build? |
| 17:13:37 | pondlife | Nico_P: Did you work out your memmove/move_handle issue? |
| 17:13:53 | Nico_P | pondlife: no |
| 17:13:54 | pondlife | Crash91: It lets you select debug and logging options. |
| 17:14:00 | Nico_P | I'm wroking on threads right now |
| 17:14:10 | Crash91 | Ok |
| 17:14:31 | pondlife | I've still not looked at it, but is memmove needed? Is an overlap possible? |
| 17:14:47 | Nico_P | I think it is |
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| 17:14:59 | pondlife | OK, just a though |
| 17:15:41 | pondlife | t |
| 17:16:23 | pondlife | Nico_P: Did anyone answer your queue_... question? |
| 17:16:29 | Nico_P | no :( |
| 17:17:21 | pondlife | I suspect that one call blocks until the queue is read (and might offer a return value), the other just queues. But that's just a suspicion ! |
| 17:17:25 | Nico_P | looks like queue_send somehow assures that the message has been received when it returns |
| 17:17:46 | pondlife | Yes, that sounds about right. |
| 17:18:26 | Nico_P | what I was doing is transform the buf* functions so that they post messages to the buffering queue |
| 17:18:28 | pondlife | Better to use that than have any horrible booleans like playback.c has/had... |
| 17:18:57 | pondlife | Yes, the API will need to send messages to the buffering thread. |
| 17:19:17 | Nico_P | I'm glad you like it :) |
| 17:19:31 | pondlife | So buffering.c actually has routines used by 2 threads - the buffering thread and the calling thread. |
| 17:19:36 | Nico_P | so the actual work will be done by functions I named buffering_buf* |
| 17:20:15 | Nico_P | how can the same routines be used by the two threads ? |
| 17:20:18 | pondlife | I tried to sort through playback.c to separate out audio_../codec_../voice_.. threads... didn't complete it. |
| 17:20:41 | pondlife | No, the routines are used by only 1 thread.. just that they are all in buffering.c. |
| 17:20:45 | Nico_P | ok |
| 17:20:51 | pondlife | You have it right. |
| 17:21:10 | Nico_P | what I'm having some trouble with, among other things, is passing the arguments |
| 17:21:28 | PaulJam | ah, found it. h and j are the hold switches. |
| 17:21:41 | Nico_P | because when there is a bufgetdata call (for example), I want to store the arguments in the queue to be able to use them in the actual call |
| 17:29:50 | Nico_P | pondlife: I tried defining structs that hold the call arguments, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 17:30:08 | Nico_P | pondlife: also, how will the calls give return values ? maybe we need callbacks ? |
| 17:30:33 | Nico_P | (I mean the API calls that send messages to the buffering thread) |
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| 17:45:23 | Crash91 | can the BL on the Sansa charge battery? |
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| 17:53:24 | pondlife | Nico_P: You can only pass a pointer to a structure, which is fine for blocking calls where you can be sure the structure contents won't be overwritten too soon. |
| 17:54:13 | Nico_P | pondlife: where should the structure be stored ? |
| 17:54:19 | Nico_P | it should be global ? |
| 17:54:30 | pondlife | Probably a static in the API routine. |
| 17:55:22 | pondlife | Or put parameters into the memory handle structure and pass a pointer to that.... but be careful with non-blocking calls. |
| 17:55:54 | Nico_P | can you ellaborate on the bloncking vs non blocking ? I don't really see what you mean |
| 17:56:14 | Nico_P | which calls should be blocking ? |
| 17:56:35 | pondlife | Some API calls (e.g. bufgetdata) must block - they can't return until the data is ready, so are strictly one at a time. |
| 17:56:49 | pondlife | But in general you want to return asap. |
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| 17:57:34 | pondlife | Beware - I haven't worked it all out though :p |
| 17:57:57 | pondlife | But I'd think that only bufread/bufgetdata need to block. |
| 17:58:21 | Nico_P | so I should use queue_send for those ? |
| 17:58:33 | Nico_P | and what about the non blocking calls ? how could they return values ? |
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| 18:00:13 | pondlife | Hmm... maybe they can only assume all is ok...:/ |
| 18:00:43 | pondlife | The open will just post, the read will then return an error if the file isn't there.. |
| 18:00:53 | pondlife | Needs thought (again). |
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| 18:03:12 | Nico_P | hmm but bufopen needs to return a handle id |
| 18:03:26 | Nico_P | ...which is given by add_handle |
| 18:06:58 | Nico_P | pondlife: I'll commit what I have so you can see |
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| 18:13:00 | Nico_P | pondlife: committed |
| 18:13:26 | Crash91 | did anyone know about #fedora-arm ? |
| 18:13:39 | Crash91 | fedora on the ARM architechture :) |
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| 18:15:24 | krazykit | Crash91, which has what to do with debian? |
| 18:15:39 | krazykit | er |
| 18:15:42 | krazykit | dammit |
| 18:15:49 | krazykit | i should really check what channel i'm in first. |
| 18:15:56 | Crash91 | lol? |
| 18:16:09 | krazykit | Crash91, a lot of distros have arm ports nowadays |
| 18:16:38 | Crash91 | i know :) i was just checking out the channels, i assume you use ubuntu? |
| 18:16:45 | krazykit | hell no. |
| 18:17:15 | Crash91 | which distro? I dislike ubuntu myself :p |
| 18:17:22 | krazykit | debian, naturally :P |
| 18:17:25 | krazykit | but that's offtopic |
| 18:18:03 | krazykit | though the linux arm ports don't help much for rockbox. |
| 18:18:28 | krazykit | rockbox isn't posix compat, as far as i know. the linux kernel doesn't have drivers for any of the hardware, either |
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| 18:19:57 | krazykit | however, the arm stuff IS interesting because you know you could possibly port it to rockbox, and that it'll compile, probably |
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| 18:20:57 | Crash91 | does anyone know how to change your password if you are registered? |
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| 18:27:40 | krazykit | Crash91, on freenode? /msg nickserv help should point you in the right direction |
| 18:28:14 | Crash91 | got it, it was /msg NickServ SET password /password/ |
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| 18:32:02 | Crash91 | damn |
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| 18:44:59 | TTSbox | a few days ago, one of you mentioned some of the plugins implements malloc |
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| 18:45:06 | TTSbox | which are they |
| 18:45:10 | TTSbox | ? |
| 18:45:26 | TTSbox | Later I may try to eliminate mallocs in the code I am porting |
| 18:45:39 | TTSbox | but for now I want to have something running earlier |
| 18:45:59 | TTSbox | so I will try to use a malloc implementation |
| 18:46:37 | TTSbox | or maybe you may know a good easy to use malloc implementation elsewhere |
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| 18:56:11 | Nico_P | TTSbox: I think it was me... IIRC doom has a malloc implementation |
| 18:56:20 | Nico_P | and I think most codecs have too |
| 18:56:57 | nl2 | Nico_P: Tremor does at least but I don't think most codecs do |
| 18:57:02 | Nico_P | ah |
| 18:57:33 | Nico_P | Bagder has a simple malloc implementation available somwhere too |
| 18:57:55 | Bagder | that's actually not just a simple one... |
| 18:58:07 | Bagder | we should add it to the pluginlib one day |
| 18:58:14 | Nico_P | oh sorry :) |
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| 18:58:51 | Nico_P | Bagder: I've been wanting to ask you about repo hosting for a few days |
| 18:58:56 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/dbestfit/ |
| 18:59:30 | Bagder | no time right now actually |
| 18:59:48 | Bagder | catch me in 3-4 hours |
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| 19:00:17 | Nico_P | ok |
| 19:00:26 | Nico_P | at least I'll try if I'm here |
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| 19:07:56 | TTSbox | Bagder: Thanks for the link |
| 19:11:14 | Nico_P | Bagder: do you have time to explain the difference between queue_post and queue_send to me . |
| 19:11:15 | Nico_P | ? |
| 19:11:57 | Nico_P | and maybe how queue_reply is used |
| 19:17:46 | amiconn | dan_a: around? |
| 19:18:55 | dan_a | Hi amiconn |
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| 19:23:13 | Nico_P | amiconn: do you know how the queue_* functions work ? |
| 19:26:24 | amiconn | dan_a: How's the iPod G3 port coming along? |
| 19:27:01 | amiconn | Nico_P: Umm, what's the problem with them? They just work... |
| 19:27:37 | Nico_P | amiconn: I think I just found what queue_reply is for... it provides the return value for a queue_send call ? |
| 19:27:39 | dan_a | amiconn: I'm just starting to look at it again. First task: figure out how the cache flushing works so that we can get dual core working on it |
| 19:28:23 | Nico_P | amiconn: so queue_send blocks until the message is processed, whereas queue_post returns immediately, is that it ? |
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| 19:34:32 | amiconn | Nico_P: Actually I don't know about this new, over-complex stuff. I only ever used queue_post() and queue_wait[_w_tmo]() |
| 19:35:15 | amiconn | Iirc most of this new stuff was added by jhMikeS |
| 19:35:23 | Nico_P | oh that's why there's nothing about it in the wiki and it's not in the plugin API |
| 19:35:42 | Nico_P | I'll try to find tha svn log about it |
| 19:36:55 | amiconn | dan_a: How stable is CPU scaling on PP5002? |
| 19:37:04 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: ping |
| 19:37:44 | dan_a | amiconn: It isn't - I'm tempted to disable it |
| 19:38:36 | amiconn | dan_a: You could send me an OF dump, and I could have a look how the OF does it |
| 19:39:06 | amiconn | Don't you also have an H10? (maybe I'm confusing you with s/o else) |
| 19:39:37 | dan_a | amiconn: I will. I bought an H10 from ebay, but it would never boot |
| 19:40:13 | amiconn | Hmm, looks I confused you with barrywardell |
| 19:45:35 | amiconn | Note to self: fix fs #6691 |
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| 20:05:32 | Soul-Slayer | Hey, is there any way of knowing when the gigabeat is fully charged :$? |
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| 20:21:46 | Suicide_Guy | is .png not supported in rockbox? |
| 20:23:57 | Suicide_Guy | i see that .png is recommended for use in WPS |
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| 20:24:25 | Suicide_Guy | but i can't view .png files in the latest build |
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| 20:29:04 | Soul-Slayer | !pcw |
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| 20:33:38 | belze_ | would it be possible to turn the irivers line-out into a "real" line-out where volume-/tone-settings dont have any effect? |
| 20:38:55 | belze_ | ah, i see this is a limitation of the UDA1380 |
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| 20:51:33 | bluebrother | Suicide_Guy: png is neither recommended nor supported. |
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| 20:53:21 | Madinko12 | Hello |
| 20:53:35 | Madinko12 | I'm new here ! |
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| 20:55:54 | Suicide_Guy | bluebrother, oh, ok |
| 20:56:11 | Suicide_Guy | i could have sworn i saw that png was recommend for WPS. oh well lol |
| 20:56:34 | Suicide_Guy | time to find a free .png to .jpg program :D |
| 20:56:48 | Suicide_Guy | again, thanks to the devs for such awesome firmware! :) |
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| 20:56:54 | Suicide_Guy | later. |
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| 20:57:35 | bluebrother | png is usually the preferred format if you post screenshots, but that's all. |
| 20:59:17 | Arathis | anyone else getting freezes on iriver h10 very often with a current build? |
| 20:59:52 | dan_a | Arathis: amiconn has been looking for an H10 owner.... |
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| 21:00:13 | Arathis | amiconn: your search ends here ;) |
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| 21:09:08 | Arathis | at least a bit. I'm half away .. |
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| 21:22:06 | Soul-Slayer | I too have an H10 if you need help amiconn? |
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| 21:24:31 | mickleby | greetings and felicitations |
| 21:25:10 | Arathis | Soul-Slayer: 5/6gb or 20gb? |
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| 21:35:43 | mickleby | n00b that I am, today I seek knowledge regarding preprocessor macros/#define, specificaly as utilized by MENUITEM_FUNCTION(...) within ../apps/menu.h. I plan to seek first simple examples, and to explore creating examples of my own. Generous offerings of insight and direction, of patterns and pitfalls will be humbly appreciated −− exploited −− replicated −− and disseminated widely, and to the detriment of sinis |
| 21:36:03 | Soul-Slayer | 6gb |
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| 21:41:12 | dionoea | hello |
| 21:44:40 | * | DC1 wonders how hard would it be to implement something equivalent to apple accessory protocol |
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| 21:56:26 | lymeca_ | I'm getting a sad iPod face with an Apple iPod support URL when I try to boot up my 4th gen iPod now. It also makes clicking noises until it powers off. |
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| 21:56:44 | Arathis | Soul-Slayer: I've got 20gb. So we have all we need ;) |
| 21:57:14 | Soap | lymeca: if I had to guess I would say your hard drive is toast. |
| 21:57:30 | Soap | Do you know how to force your iPod 4th gen into disk mode? |
| 21:57:42 | lymeca | Not 100% sure |
| 21:57:48 | lymeca | What is it Select + Left? |
| 21:59:01 | Soap | select is the center button |
| 21:59:13 | Soap | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651 |
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| 22:00:16 | dionoea | Bagder: ? |
| 22:00:27 | Soap | in general you should see Apple for all the iPod's on-screen error icons/codes/messages. They do a pretty dang good job of troubleshooting them all |
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| 22:06:14 | lymeca | arrgghh this is awful |
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| 22:09:00 | mickleby | lymeca_: My 5th gen behaved as yours a few days for no good reason (i.e. sadMac, clicking drive). I let it rest, and a few hours later it started up just as normal.. Just saying take your time before you do anything radical |
| 22:10:39 | lymeca | mickleby: Do you jog with it or otherwise subject it to rapid movements while it's playing back? |
| 22:11:04 | lymeca | I've tried hitting it on the back a couple times on my desk |
| 22:11:43 | lymeca | And I've tried holding Select+Menu and various other combinations to get it to start up...booting into disk mode doesn't even seem to work. |
| 22:12:06 | lymeca | It charges when I plug it into USB. It shows a large charging battery icon. |
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| 22:15:45 | lymeca | A couple times it showed a folder with an exclamation mark instead of an unhappy iPod face, but the behavior seemed consistant. (clicks and reboot) |
| 22:15:45 | mickleby | lymeca: wouldn't recommend jogging with a harddrive player, no. have you found key sequnce that reboots the box? |
| 22:16:58 | mickleby | lymeca: I came in in the middle of your desc. What precipitated your issues? |
| 22:18:31 | lymeca | Hmm, well I was dancing around outside with it in my pocket last night, no different from normal use I put it through, really... |
| 22:18:56 | lymeca | Then the Rockbox UI froze and wasn't responding but the music still played |
| 22:19:16 | lymeca | I was in the ROckbox main menu and the backlight would turn on fine but none of the buttons did ANYTHING |
| 22:19:27 | lymeca | So it just kept going from track to track and finished the playlist |
| 22:19:39 | lymeca | Then I manually rebooted it hitting Select+Menu I think |
| 22:19:58 | lymeca | Then when I tried starting it up it clicked and wouldn't boot into Rockbox |
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| 22:20:55 | lymeca | Now I can't even get into disk mode and when I plug it into USB it will charge but every once in a while it will try and boot up but just start clicking and showing the sad iPod face again until it goes back to simply charging again. |
| 22:21:05 | lymeca | No Rockbox in sight |
| 22:21:40 | mickleby | lymeca: yeah, seems obvious hd problem, likely another damned dancing related injury! (Not to make lite of seriousness) Have you tried diskcheck? |
| 22:22:13 | lymeca | I've not,no... |
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| 22:22:20 | lymeca | How can I try that? |
| 22:22:58 | mickleby | lymeca: well we need to get it to mount as a hd on your computer. do you linux, windows, mac, vax? |
| 22:23:09 | lymeca | vax! |
| 22:23:18 | dionoea | vax? |
| 22:23:20 | lymeca | I mean,uhh,Debian GNU+Linux. |
| 22:23:34 | mickleby | flashbacks, sorry |
| 22:25:03 | mickleby | lymeca: don't spurn me, but I have a windows background from which I am recovering. Am sure you can find someone more qualified to help you determine if the harddrive can be rescued by linux. |
| 22:25:36 | mickleby | lymeca: essentially, you mount the drive and run whatever disk checking util is available |
| 22:25:48 | dionoea | fsck.vfat |
| 22:25:57 | lymeca | mickleby: From which you are recovering,eh? What are you using now? |
| 22:26:14 | lymeca | dionoea: Sure,but how the hell do I mount the damn thing if I can't boot it up? |
| 22:26:46 | dionoea | well you can't :) |
| 22:26:53 | dionoea | So you phone the Apple consumer support |
| 22:27:01 | dionoea | and hope that your iPod's warranty is still ok |
| 22:27:03 | mickleby | lymeca: this is a windows xp laptop I grabbed on Black Friday for $200. 2G, 1.87Ghz .. functions for now |
| 22:27:43 | lymeca | mickleby: Using Windows XP doesn't count as "recovering" from a Windows background. |
| 22:27:48 | dionoea | :) |
| 22:28:17 | mickleby | yes, but I program using the debian vmware.. it's something |
| 22:28:58 | * | lymeca uses Xen |
| 22:30:43 | * | lymeca doubts the iPod is still under warranty |
| 22:30:50 | mickleby | seems the we live in virtual times, with virtual presidents, and virtual freedoms.. |
| 22:30:55 | Soul-Slayer | Does anyone know what ampage the standard battery in the Gigabeat is? Rockbox defaults it to 2000, but replacement batteries are apparently 850? |
| 22:32:27 | mickleby | lymeca: took my 5th gen on the last day of warranty and got a brand-spanking-new one with very few queries made. Be certain about warranty before you open the iPod case |
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| 22:32:52 | lymeca | Does putting Rockbox on void the warranty? |
| 22:34:53 | mickleby | lymeca: why mention that? |
| 22:35:09 | lymeca | Well,now,I probably wouldn't either way |
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| 22:38:38 | mickleby | lymeca: sorry if redundant: I am no rb 'pert, but I spoke up because I had a harddrive issue to share. in my case I think the hd arm got stuck, and became unstuck later. I had planned to wipe or even replace the hd. so I am EVER so glad that I didn't jump off too soon. Certainly hope that this is your future, but for hardware advice I can offer little more. |
| 22:40:30 | lymeca | Yeah it's out of warranty... apparently the thing was purchased on January 29th, 2005 |
| 22:40:39 | lymeca | WAY out of warranty probably |
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| 22:42:56 | mickleby | lymeca: I live 3 mi from an Apple store, so I would stop in, even w/o warrenty. And regards recovery, will I need to go cold turkey on AOE3? forefend! |
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| 22:44:35 | lymeca | mickleby: bad choice, a Microsoft published game. Many (most?) Windows-only games work in WINE or Cedega. Not AoE III though... |
| 22:44:54 | lymeca | I get my fix listening to the soundtrack with Amarok. |
| 22:45:00 | lymeca | <3 Stephen Rippy |
| 22:46:52 | mickleby | lymeca: one nice thing about addiction is that it can be transferred. are there compelling linux multiplayer strategy games.. (MS brain drain alert! have I never heard of chess? othello?) |
| 22:47:05 | crop | pondlife: ping |
| 22:49:34 | krazykit | mickleby, wesnoth ;) |
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| 23:13:12 | amiconn | dan_a? |
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| 23:13:55 | amiconn | no, should have checked mail first :) |
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| 23:44:29 | * | dan_a wonders why the G3 bootloader in trunk isn't working for him |
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| 23:48:11 | Jinx|xniJ | Hello |
| 23:48:47 | Jinx|xniJ | I just got an 80gig ipod today, and i think im going to flash its firmware. :) |
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| 23:52:09 | Jinx|xniJ | Do you guys notice an increase in the battery life with BOS? |
| 23:52:35 | Bagder | BOS? |
| 23:52:48 | dan_a | On an iPod, Rockbox will give you a worse battery life |
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| 23:52:50 | Bagder | and btw, rockbox isn't "flashed" on ipods |
| 23:53:31 | * | scorche wonders if that part in the topic has worn out its welcome yet |
| 23:54:43 | Bagder | well, as a lurker you don't read topic updates from long ago |
| 23:54:49 | Bagder | not when the topics are this overly long anyway |
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| 23:55:14 | Bagder | then what is BOS supposed to mean? |
| 23:55:29 | scorche | bag of shit ;) |
| 23:55:39 | * | Bagder ohs |
| 23:55:51 | krazykit | i thought it was better as Box of Sweetness (in my mind) |
| 23:56:47 | Jinx|xniJ | Anyways, yeah i read the instal part, i see it isnt a flash |
| 23:56:59 | scorche | and this topic is likely on the short end compared to most the topics on freenode |
| 23:57:10 | Jinx|xniJ | what kind of battery life are you looking at on an ipod video? Depend on what type of file your listening to or? |
| 23:57:23 | Bagder | possibly, I'm just of the old school where we had < 80 columns topics |
| 23:57:27 | scorche | it depends on various things, yes |
| 23:57:53 | scorche | Jinx|xniJ: around 50-70% i believe is the current guesstimate |
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| 23:58:12 | Bagder | but I'll admit that I usually put my irc window so that the topic isn't shown anyway ;-) |
| 23:58:16 | PaulJam | Jinx|xniJ: i would expect 50-60% of the batterylife in the apple firmware. see here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=IpodRuntime |
| 23:58:20 | Jinx|xniJ | Well for lossless, i think i might be willing to forgoe that |
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