| 00:00:01 | Hilikus | great, it makes sense |
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| 00:00:13 | petur | linuxstb: ? |
| 00:00:25 | linuxstb | Or am I talking nonsense? |
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| 00:00:57 | Hilikus | well if do some correction or interpolation or something i guess the more data you have the better |
| 00:01:11 | linuxstb | I'm thinking mainly from experience of video encoding - a high quality picture will encode easier than a low quality (i.e. lots of noise) one. |
| 00:01:45 | petur | I think the freq range and response of the internal mic isn't very good, so why waste bits on it? |
| 00:02:25 | Hilikus | didnt you say to use the highest bitrate? |
| 00:02:32 | petur | linuxstb: I think here we'll have lack of details |
| 00:02:56 | linuxstb | I just think that if the quality is poor to start with, then you don't want to do anything else to make it worse. But I should probably just stop talking... |
| 00:03:02 | amiconn | linuxstb: Three sounds definitely wrong. Should be one. |
| 00:03:10 | amiconn | How many do you get in the browser? |
| 00:03:15 | linuxstb | Just the one. |
| 00:03:39 | petur | Hilikus: maybe try it at home... try between 192 and 320 |
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| 00:04:39 | petur | or, as I said, if it's going to be loud, go for wav anyway |
| 00:04:59 | petur | I would only take mp3 to have less spinups |
| 00:06:16 | Hilikus | great great |
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| 00:06:32 | Hilikus | im off, thanks a lot for the help guys |
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| 00:07:49 | Hilikus | gotta love rb |
| 00:07:55 | Hilikus | see ya |
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| 00:08:44 | saratoga2 | good quality video compressed better because of very good/long spatial correlation lengths |
| 00:08:52 | saratoga2 | imo not really analogous to audio |
| 00:09:20 | saratoga2 | since audio has no spatial extent |
| 00:09:37 | saratoga2 | (ignoring stereo anyway) |
| 00:09:53 | DerPapst | the button configuration for root/playlist on ipod is wired. |
| 00:10:21 | DerPapst | if i enter it and don't do anything but wat to leave it again clicking menu is enough |
| 00:11:16 | DerPapst | but if i enter view playlist and want to leave the playlist menu pressing menu doesn't quit it.. |
| 00:12:01 | DerPapst | i have to press << at least 2 times... |
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| 00:15:27 | DerPapst | is ACTION_STD_CANCEL mapped to << and ACTION_STD_MENU mapped to menu on iPods? |
| 00:15:33 | linuxstb | ;) The function doing all these updates is called gui_list_draw_smart() ... |
| 00:15:48 | DerPapst | heh |
| 00:15:56 | DerPapst | not the smartest way :P |
| 00:16:25 | linuxstb | Although I'm guessing it's just being called multiple times from the menus. |
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| 00:20:03 | amiconn | linuxstb: But then there are actually 2 problems |
| 00:20:27 | amiconn | (1) the menu code calling gui_list_draw_smart() more often than necessary |
| 00:20:53 | amiconn | (2) gui_list_draw_smart() not being smart enough to notice that the list position & highlight didn't change at all |
| 00:21:11 | * | amiconn wonders what Slasheri did there |
| 00:22:30 | stripwax | so. which pub? |
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| 00:32:34 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm not sure what gui_list_draw_smart() should be doing, but the problem seems to be an extra call to gui_synclist_draw() in the main menu loop. This is called twice - once on button press and once on button release, and there is no obvious need for either call - the list is updated by yet another function - gui_synclist_do_button() which processes the action. |
| 00:33:11 | linuxstb | The only time I can think the extra update is needed is when playback stops - meaning the menu item changes from Now Playing to Resume Playback. |
| 00:33:51 | * | linuxstb wonders if JdGordon knows what's going on and could fix it. |
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| 00:38:07 | conorkirkpatric1 | Hi |
| 00:38:59 | petur | hi |
| 00:39:42 | DerPapst | lo |
| 00:40:01 | conorkirkpatric1 | DerPapst: Jtx and dan were talking about you in #openplay :P |
| 00:40:16 | linuxstb | stripwax: Are you planning on attending DevConPub/ |
| 00:40:17 | linuxstb | ? |
| 00:40:41 | stripwax | would like to if that's ok |
| 00:40:49 | conorkirkpatric1 | The channel topic was: "Keep it clean or DerPapst gets it!" |
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| 00:40:57 | stripwax | not sure how I'd help or anything but I like beer |
| 00:41:00 | linuxstb | stripwax: Of course - the more the merrier. |
| 00:41:12 | DerPapst | conorkirkpatric1: heh |
| 00:41:22 | linuxstb | stripwax: My intention is beer with the distraction of a little rockbox chat. |
| 00:41:28 | stripwax | sounds ok :) |
| 00:41:58 | DerPapst | now peturs highlightning thinky is flashing... |
| 00:42:06 | petur | indeed :) |
| 00:42:16 | linuxstb | The Eurostar is a wonderful thing... |
| 00:42:23 | petur | sorry I can't be there too |
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| 00:52:58 | amiconn | ! |
| 00:53:04 | DerPapst | ? |
| 00:53:30 | * | amiconn found the same magic constant related to PP5002 clock setup that appears on the PP5020... |
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| 00:54:11 | amiconn | Hrmm, dan_a is gone :| |
| 00:54:51 | DerPapst | if you need someone for testing i can probably help out. |
| 00:55:12 | DerPapst | but maybe not in the next 9 hours ;) |
| 00:56:06 | DerPapst | and i don't have my build enviorment here -.- |
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| 00:56:48 | DerPapst | btw.. is your linux build image available somewhere? |
| 00:57:23 | DerPapst | i don't have enough space to install cygwin on my laptop. |
| 00:58:28 | amiconn | Then you won't be able to use vmware either |
| 00:59:19 | amiconn | The image uses almost 1GB after unzipping, and may grow to a maximum of ~4.7GB |
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| 01:00:10 | linuxstb | Hmm, does anyone else get a segfault in the sim when stopping playback? (I'm using an ipod sim) |
| 01:00:32 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7245 |
| 01:01:43 | DerPapst | amiconn: i thought you have it down to ~150MB |
| 01:02:00 | amiconn | That is compressed size for transfer... |
| 01:02:13 | amiconn | 138MB |
| 01:02:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:03:07 | DerPapst | ah.. ok ;) |
| 01:03:34 | DerPapst | anyways.. is it available anywhere? |
| 01:03:42 | amiconn | This 0xd19b magic is really interesting... |
| 01:03:57 | DerPapst | maybe i could use it on a portable hdd |
| 01:04:39 | amiconn | MrH wrote that the H10 firmware (PP5020) sets it _once_ when the clock is set above 66MHz.... and the PP5002 is locked to <= 66MHz in rockbox... and we don't set the magic (yet) |
| 01:04:56 | amiconn | This 66MHz can't be a coincidence... |
| 01:05:14 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps you could indeed try sth on your G3 |
| 01:07:11 | DerPapst | ok... |
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| 01:07:48 | DerPapst | but you have to give me a compiled build.. i think the *ipod binary will be enough |
| 01:07:54 | amiconn | yes |
| 01:07:58 | DerPapst | the rest is pretty much up to date |
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| 01:12:19 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/3g/rockbox.ipod">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/3g/rockbox.ipod |
| 01:12:58 | amiconn | Install this, go to debug menu, go to 'View I/O ports, and check estimated clock. Should be ~30000kHz |
| 01:13:58 | DerPapst | k |
| 01:13:59 | amiconn | Then back out once, go to CPU frequency, bump the boost counter to 1 or more, go back, go to View I/O Ports again, and check the estimated clock |
| 01:14:22 | amiconn | I *hope* it will be ~78000kHz, not ~66000kHz |
| 01:18:08 | DerPapst | unboosted is ~30000kHz. |
| 01:18:22 | DerPapst | but i'm too stupid to bumb the boost counter |
| 01:18:23 | amiconn | Okay, as it should |
| 01:18:36 | amiconn | YOu need to turn the wheel left in order to boost |
| 01:18:51 | amiconn | (highly illogical, I know...) |
| 01:18:55 | * | linuxstb has never understood how/why that changed, but expect actions are to blame... |
| 01:18:55 | DerPapst | ah thanks :) |
| 01:19:00 | amiconn | Took me a while to figure out as well |
| 01:19:22 | DerPapst | is ~78000kHz |
| 01:19:27 | amiconn | linuxstb: Action code... JdGordon |
| 01:19:32 | amiconn | DerPapst: Wow! :) |
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| 01:19:41 | * | DerPapst has to talk to him as well :P |
| 01:20:11 | amiconn | DerPapst: Just to make sure, you could repeat this test with latest svn |
| 01:20:37 | stripwax | hm, plugging in usb while running test_codec causes prefetch abort at deadbeee. |
| 01:20:44 | DerPapst | my ipod binary was before your pp502X fixes... stii do it? |
| 01:21:17 | amiconn | Latest svn... |
| 01:21:29 | amiconn | The older ones don't even have clock estimation |
| 01:21:42 | DerPapst | odd.. the buttons don't react... backlight goes on but i can't quit View I/O Ports. |
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| 01:21:52 | DerPapst | then you have to compile it for me (sorry) |
| 01:21:59 | stripwax | hm, and menu+play to reboot while usb is plugged in causes ipod to not be recognised by PC , and causes rockbox to lockup (although backlight still comes on when wheel is touched..) |
| 01:22:05 | amiconn | Er, download it from the site? |
| 01:22:12 | pixelma | why not download it from build.rockbox.org? |
| 01:22:17 | DerPapst | lol |
| 01:22:23 | amiconn | DerPapst: Only Menu will leave View I/O ports |
| 01:22:28 | * | DerPapst forgot about that |
| 01:22:48 | DerPapst | nope. nothing happens :-/ |
| 01:22:52 | amiconn | It's on purpose that only one button leaves that screen |
| 01:23:04 | amiconn | Hmm, lemme check, perhaps 3G is different |
| 01:23:16 | linuxstb | Hmm, seems this was the commit that caused the multiple lcd_updates in the menu code - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=13337 |
| 01:23:53 | pixelma | 13337 ;) |
| 01:24:47 | amiconn | Should be MENU (only at release), hmmmmm |
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| 01:25:51 | DerPapst | somehow it didn't react. |
| 01:26:01 | * | DerPapst tries svn in a few secs |
| 01:29:35 | DerPapst | unboosted 30MHz and menu button not working in this screen... |
| 01:29:39 | DerPapst | i don't get it.. |
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| 01:30:29 | DerPapst | infact.. the only button that does anything is the hold switch |
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| 01:30:59 | amiconn | Hmm, dan_a said there are instabilities with clock scaling on G3 |
| 01:31:15 | DerPapst | but why only in this screen? |
| 01:31:17 | amiconn | I hope to be able to solve them as well, but that needs further code analysis |
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| 01:32:25 | DerPapst | maybe a hardware failure.. i can't reset the iPod. |
| 01:32:28 | amiconn | Perhaps it has nothing to do with clock scaling, bt with how the clock estimation works |
| 01:32:44 | amiconn | That's bad... |
| 01:33:30 | DerPapst | damn :-( |
| 01:33:46 | amiconn | Perhaps it's on hold (/me always forgets about hold :( ) |
| 01:33:57 | DerPapst | my other 3G is in dresden... |
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| 01:34:28 | DerPapst | red mens hold on right? |
| 01:34:33 | * | DerPapst slaps forehead |
| 01:34:33 | amiconn | yes |
| 01:35:02 | DerPapst | svn boosted is 66MHz |
| 01:35:09 | amiconn | Hah! |
| 01:35:21 | DerPapst | but menu button still doesn't work in there. |
| 01:35:24 | * | amiconn will commit immediately |
| 01:35:35 | DerPapst | works on all other menus though |
| 01:35:40 | amiconn | Yes, it might lose button interrupts because of the clock estimation |
| 01:35:56 | DerPapst | heh funny |
| 01:36:10 | DerPapst | all other bouutns work (aka backlight goes on) |
| 01:36:10 | amiconn | Not sure whether that's the problem though |
| 01:36:26 | amiconn | And mmenu? |
| 01:36:39 | DerPapst | nopethe only one that doesn't do anything |
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| 01:38:11 | DerPapst | mmh... |
| 01:38:22 | DerPapst | the menu button doesn't work at all o.O |
| 01:38:29 | amiconn | Not even light up the backlight? |
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| 01:38:39 | DerPapst | nope |
| 01:38:41 | DerPapst | nowhere |
| 01:38:54 | amiconn | How do you enter the menu then... |
| 01:39:02 | * | DerPapst is testing in the OF to make sure the button is ok |
| 01:39:04 | conorkirkpatrick | Does anybody know how to put a 5G iPod to sleep from within rockbox? I used to be able to, but now I can't. |
| 01:39:54 | DerPapst | amiconn: with the center button. the problem is i can't leave it then ;) |
| 01:40:09 | amiconn | No, I mean the main menu |
| 01:40:17 | DerPapst | <<< |
| 01:40:22 | DerPapst | - < |
| 01:40:30 | amiconn | Oh yes of course |
| 01:40:36 | * | amiconn slaps forehead |
| 01:40:43 | * | amiconn hopes forehead won't show up ;) |
| 01:40:50 | DerPapst | poor forehead... ;) |
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| 01:41:18 | DerPapst | bah.. |
| 01:41:28 | DerPapst | seems like my menu button is busted. |
| 01:41:31 | DerPapst | damn.. |
| 01:41:40 | DerPapst | i've relaced the mobo already once |
| 01:41:55 | DerPapst | because of a broken firewire controller |
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| 01:42:06 | conorkirkpatrick | DerPapst: I feel for ya man |
| 01:42:08 | daniel_was_here | its alright DerPapst... it`ll get better. |
| 01:42:16 | daniel_was_here | Take it one day at a time.. |
| 01:42:58 | DerPapst | or mayve it's just the button pcb... |
| 01:43:11 | daniel_was_here | No its broken... =) |
| 01:43:30 | DerPapst | pressing it longer and harder than usually fires an event... |
| 01:43:39 | conorkirkpatrick | DerPapst: Jtxdriggers wants to say: "I send my sympathies to derpapst from osgc :(" |
| 01:44:13 | conorkirkpatrick | We can help you pull through this |
| 01:44:34 | conorkirkpatrick | on a lighter note: Does anybody know why holding play from within rockbox doesn't put my iPod to sleep like it used to? |
| 01:44:48 | * | DerPapst wonders if it is possible to exchange the button pbc on a 3G iPod or if they are glued. |
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| 01:45:05 | linuxstb | conorkirkpatrick: Are you using a custom build? |
| 01:45:11 | conorkirkpatrick | Nope |
| 01:45:22 | conorkirkpatrick | linuxstb: just the daily build from rockbox.org |
| 01:45:23 | DerPapst | works fine here |
| 01:45:45 | conorkirkpatrick | nvm |
| 01:45:54 | conorkirkpatrick | I was being a n00b and thought it did it in 3 seconds :D |
| 01:45:59 | conorkirkpatrick | It works now :) |
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| 01:46:39 | DerPapst | lol @ last commit message :D |
| 01:47:00 | DerPapst | my ipod is strange.. |
| 01:47:28 | DerPapst | now menu works again as there was never anything wrong with it :$ |
| 01:48:27 | linuxstb | Now sell it... |
| 01:48:36 | DerPapst | heh no |
| 01:48:48 | DerPapst | i could sell my other semibroken 3G iPod |
| 01:48:49 | * | amiconn does the 78MHz dance |
| 01:48:57 | * | DerPapst joines |
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| 01:49:27 | DerPapst | -e ? |
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| 01:50:25 | linuxstb | Was IPL setting that magic value for the 3G? |
| 01:51:23 | amiconn | nope |
| 01:52:15 | amiconn | The PP5020 has the same magic value, but maybe the apple loader sets it already |
| 01:52:28 | amiconn | PP5022 and up don't have it |
| 01:53:35 | conorkirkpatrick | Trust me, the magic value *is* 20 million |
| 01:55:39 | * | pixelma thinks amiconn and DerPapst seem to moving quite fast :P |
| 01:55:51 | pixelma | +be |
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| 02:03:27 | DerPapst | hehe ;) |
| 02:03:45 | alienbiker99 | hi |
| 02:04:20 | alienbiker99 | im asian i can answer anything |
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| 02:06:47 | alienbiker99 | ok were leaving |
| 02:06:48 | alienbiker99 | bye |
| 02:06:58 | daniel_was_here | .... i thought i was random. |
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| 02:07:48 | DerPapst | alienbiker99: how do i install rockbox on my zune? |
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| 02:10:36 | Soul-Slayer | Zune? Forget that, how do I install rockbox on my calculator? |
| 02:12:02 | TiMiD[FD] | good morning |
| 02:14:05 | * | amiconn goes zo sleep |
| 02:14:12 | amiconn | *to even |
| 02:15:29 | DerPapst | good night |
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| 02:32:34 | iamben | i can't find where in the docs it talks about the radio feature (i have a sansa e200), can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 02:34:20 | saratoga | iamben: radio was just recently added, might want to check on file spray or perhaps the mailing list |
| 02:34:45 | iamben | ah ok, thanks |
| 02:35:11 | iamben | i dont know which features are new, since i just started yesterday... seems sansa support in general is somewhat new though |
| 02:35:13 | linuxstb | It's not mentioned in the manual? |
| 02:35:57 | iamben | not that i can see... i didnt read it front to back in order, but i think ive been through all the sections now |
| 02:36:57 | Davide-NYC | Llorean: I'm back. What I meant earlier about recording directories and CFG files is this: |
| 02:37:15 | linuxstb | Looks like it's missing. You could read the manual for another device to see what _should_ be working on the Sansa. e.g. http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch5.html#x8-870005.9 |
| 02:37:26 | linuxstb | (the buttons will be different, but the functionality should be the same) |
| 02:37:30 | Davide-NYC | I would like to have recordings made with different inputs stored in different directories |
| 02:37:49 | Davide-NYC | Mic input to Dir1, line input to Dir2, etc |
| 02:38:03 | Davide-NYC | is this possible via config file? |
| 02:38:03 | iamben | linuxstb: that helps, thanks |
| 02:38:32 | linuxstb | I'm guessing Llorean was suggesting you create .cfg file with both the recording directory and input in it. So loading that .cfg file will change both settings. |
| 02:38:49 | iamben | do the devs need/accept submissions for the manual? i could probably whip up a sansa-tailored version of this radio section pretty quick |
| 02:39:10 | linuxstb | Yes, more people helping with the documentation is always welcome. |
| 02:39:18 | DerPapst | Good night everyone |
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| 02:49:39 | pixelma | iamben: would be nice, I just think the radio chapter would need an overhaul in general (the structure), for example I don't like the way it's repeating "go to x" in several places and imo it's missing some sort of general overview- I started that once but stopped again because I had no idea what would be best to start with :\ |
| 02:50:33 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: hello, I have a question about the recording directory patch |
| 02:51:11 | Davide-NYC | can I send different input recordings to different directories now? |
| 02:52:02 | JdGordon | yes and no |
| 02:52:26 | JdGordon | create multiple .cfgs with the different difrectories and load it before you start |
| 02:54:28 | Davide-NYC | is htere documentation fo rthis? I've never dealt with cfg files |
| 02:54:45 | Davide-NYC | (sorry about the spelling... happy hour) |
| 02:56:47 | JdGordon | setup the recording settings the way you want them for one input, then in the rec settings save te config (there is an option there), then fix the settings for the other input and save it as a different file |
| 02:57:36 | JdGordon | then before recording, go into the rec settings and go "browse cfg files" and load the one you want |
| 02:57:38 | Davide-NYC | Can I configure the input and encoder settings in the cfg file? Or just the directory |
| 02:58:00 | JdGordon | all rec setting are saved int he cfg |
| 02:58:06 | Davide-NYC | awesome! |
| 02:58:09 | Davide-NYC | thanks |
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| 02:58:18 | JdGordon | and only the rec settings if you use the write cfg from the rec menui |
| 02:58:28 | Davide-NYC | perfect. |
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| 03:00:16 | JdGordon | ... occaioannly I'm allowd to commit usefull patches... |
| 03:00:33 | Davide-NYC | do you need H1x0 testing |
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| 03:01:09 | JdGordon | it was tested on the sansa and ondioFM which are the ones that would give it the most problems... so it should work fine |
| 03:01:18 | Davide-NYC | alright |
| 03:01:43 | Davide-NYC | I'll report back if something is awry. |
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| 03:07:06 | JdGordon | linuxstb: just reading the logs... I never realised gui_synclist_do_button did a redraw! |
| 03:07:16 | * | JdGordon has a few lists to fix I think |
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| 03:44:45 | midkay | JdGordon: hmm, it may be just a placebo effect, but it seems like (as i hoped/expected) your menu redraw changes speed up menu scrolling. :) this is indeed true, i hope? |
| 03:44:55 | JdGordon | it should |
| 03:45:01 | JdGordon | 1/3 the screen updates |
| 03:45:03 | midkay | especially the root menu, which has always been way slower to scroll in than some other lists. |
| 03:45:54 | JdGordon | according to the logs linuxstb rekons it was doing 3 full screen updates each move instead of the smart rect update, so should be much faster |
| 03:46:18 | JdGordon | ill reneable cpu scaling on the sansa and see if its still unsable at the low speed |
| 03:46:41 | midkay | ah - but wait - the smart rect update isn't in SVN, is it? i'm quite sure it isn't.. if you mean simply updating the two lines that are affected each scroll event. |
| 03:47:07 | JdGordon | it is |
| 03:47:20 | JdGordon | Slasheri did that ages ago |
| 03:47:33 | JdGordon | gui_draw_smart (or whatever its called) |
| 03:48:43 | midkay | wow, i'm surprised... i remember earhertz made a patch for this ages ago and it really sped up scrolling for me.. i don't ever remember seeing that go into svn or feeling such a large jump in scrolling speed. |
| 03:49:18 | JdGordon | the diffenbach guy did a similar one also which never made it into svn also... |
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| 03:50:05 | midkay | yeah, thomas p. diffenbach (= earhertz, or whatever he's known by now) |
| 03:50:12 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 03:51:04 | JdGordon | :) sansa is much more usable with low cpu now |
| 03:51:11 | midkay | cool :) |
| 03:51:23 | midkay | that smart-rect update must have gone in before august 1, 2006? |
| 03:51:30 | midkay | *loads the unbelievably long since-2.5 changelog* |
| 03:51:43 | JdGordon | faster way... |
| 03:52:15 | midkay | ah, through list.c or something? |
| 03:52:33 | JdGordon | r 12721 |
| 03:53:23 | * | JdGordon wants to add an icon for cpu boost to the statusbar |
| 03:53:34 | midkay | frame dropping and cpu boosting? that doesn't sound like it... |
| 03:53:57 | midkay | maybe he didn't mention it in the commit message. |
| 03:54:05 | midkay | aah, i see.. |
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| 03:54:39 | midkay | i wonder if mr. diffenbach did something differently that made it faster for his patch than the SVN code. |
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| 03:54:46 | midkay | (the svn code that slasheri wrote) |
| 03:55:00 | JdGordon | he cached the lines didnt he? |
| 03:55:10 | * | JdGordon cant actually remember |
| 03:56:05 | midkay | no idea, but i just remember being blown away at the speed change.. and i never noticed any major speed changes between regular SVN build updates. |
| 03:58:04 | linuxstb | JdGordon: The menus are still doing a full-screen update, but at least it's only one now... ;) |
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| 03:58:32 | JdGordon | yeah, I can definatly feel the difference at 30mhz on the sansa :) |
| 03:58:33 | Llorean | JdGordon: Maybe make one for 'debug' builds? |
| 03:58:40 | midkay | is that why those smart-rect updates aren't really as efficient as they could be...? :) |
| 03:59:30 | JdGordon | midkay: found his patch, 5591 |
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| 04:00:28 | midkay | JdGordon: cool, if you're interested in researching go for it.. i hardly feel like digging around to compare the implementations :) |
| 04:00:50 | JdGordon | neither, but you got me interested |
| 04:00:56 | midkay | haha. |
| 04:01:01 | midkay | (victory!) |
| 04:01:09 | JdGordon | also, the 2 things i thought about coding today are slightly annoying to implement |
| 04:01:22 | midkay | code faster list updates! :D |
| 04:01:32 | JdGordon | and will probably get yelled down because they just make life easier.... |
| 04:02:05 | midkay | haha. how dare you even consider making life easier...! :) |
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| 04:02:37 | Llorean | midkay: He's sour because he proposed adding a customizable menu, and quite a few people didn't want it. |
| 04:02:56 | JdGordon | <spoiler alert> I thougt about adding <Paste here> to the file browser after a copy/cut |
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| 04:03:07 | JdGordon | and a proper choose file "widget" |
| 04:03:58 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Regarding your menu fix, I think you broke the "Now Playing/Resume Playback" menu item. I'm sure that it used to change with the playback status, but now it only changes after you move the cursor. I don't know if there are other similar menu items which could be affected. |
| 04:04:24 | midkay | Llorean: ah. |
| 04:04:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: crap, your right |
| 04:04:44 | Llorean | linuxstb: If it affects tree too, maybe the appearance of the virtual SD card folder? |
| 04:04:51 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I mentioned that in the logs... |
| 04:05:08 | JdGordon | it wont affect the tree... only menus with dynamic names... |
| 04:05:15 | JdGordon | yeah, but im still not fully awake yet |
| 04:05:19 | midkay | JdGordon: choose file widget? what do you mean? |
| 04:05:32 | JdGordon | for save as... open file... etc |
| 04:05:47 | JdGordon | usable in plugins and core |
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| 04:06:43 | Llorean | JdGordon: Oh, btw, if you never got an actual measure, it's apparently 438 bytes. |
| 04:06:54 | JdGordon | ok, thanks |
| 04:07:20 | midkay | ah.. |
| 04:08:20 | * | JdGordon has an idea to fix dnamic names |
| 04:08:31 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Also, those calls gui_synclist_draw were added by you as a bugfix for menu items not scrolling (IIUC). Do they still work? |
| 04:08:45 | JdGordon | yeah, scrolling works |
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| 04:18:20 | saratoga | i'm looking forward to trying these menu changes |
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| 04:18:37 | safetydan | JdGordon, I'd support changing cut/copy/paste to be "Copy to..." and "Move to..." menu entries. The only reason I didn't do it that way in the first place was the like of a suitable widget. |
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| 04:19:48 | michieru_ | Hmmm, how long till rockbox can work on 5th generation iPod's? Or if they plan on being supported. |
| 04:19:53 | JdGordon | safetydan: they actually sound better than adding a dummy item to the tree... should be easy to do once some minor tweaking happens in the tree |
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| 04:20:03 | JdGordon | linuxstb: fixed the now playing item (about to commit) |
| 04:20:12 | aliask | michieru_: Rockbox already works with 5g ipods... |
| 04:20:13 | linuxstb | michieru_: It's worked for about 18 months... |
| 04:20:14 | Llorean | michieru_: Oh, some nine months ago or so. |
| 04:20:21 | Llorean | Or apparently longer. |
| 04:20:27 | scorche | michieru_: they work...you can see a list of working devices ont he front page |
| 04:20:31 | * | Llorean meant 19, really |
| 04:20:32 | linuxstb | Jan 2006 IIRC (or am I going mad...) |
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| 04:21:17 | michieru_ | Pardon, I actually have a iPod Nano 2nd gen, according to the site it's not supported. |
| 04:21:37 | Llorean | iPod Nano 2nd gen is not a "5g iPod" |
| 04:21:53 | linuxstb | Then no, there are no real plans for 2nd gen support - it's a completely new device compared to older ipods. |
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| 04:22:31 | michieru_ | Llorean: My mistake. |
| 04:22:52 | michieru_ | linuxstb: Alright, so it's best to assume rockbox won't be seen on it or ever for a while. |
| 04:23:40 | michieru_ | Thanks anyway. |
| 04:23:53 | linuxstb | A port to the 2nd gen Nano relies on someone cracking Apple's encryption. If that happens tomorrow, then a Rockbox port would very likely be started. But that may never happen. |
| 04:26:19 | saratoga | a good way to reproduce the skipping problem on the Sansa with scaling is to play a wav file and then scroll a lot |
| 04:26:55 | saratoga | that said, the wma codec works pretty well, only get ~50% boost which i htink is enough to avoid skipping |
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| 04:29:08 | saratoga | linuxstb: if you're still up, i made some progress on the <32k file issue, converted some tables, and tracked down the current crashes to a problem in how my test program allocates memory |
| 04:29:26 | saratoga | hopefully i'll start making real progress towards a patch tomorrow |
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| 05:28:21 | mike__ | can someone help me encode video for my ipod video? |
| 05:28:58 | mike__ | I had a .bat file to use with my old iriver h10, but i need a new size one for my ipod, correct? I am using ubuntu linux |
| 05:33:31 | mike__ | ? |
| 05:34:11 | Soap | mike__, have you used winFF as described in the wiki? |
| 05:34:30 | Soap | nevermind - just saw ubuntu - .bat lead me to think windows |
| 05:34:58 | mike__ | yeah.. i was using the bat for windows |
| 05:35:08 | mike__ | I was hoping I could do somthing similar if not the same here |
| 05:35:27 | mike__ | winff seems to have .deb packages though.. im looking now |
| 05:36:07 | conorkirkpatrick | iPod video: 320x240 |
| 05:36:48 | mike__ | and it must be 10 fps, correct? |
| 05:37:21 | mike__ | oh and is it mpeg 2 or 4 |
| 05:37:32 | Soap | can be whatever you want |
| 05:37:40 | mike__ | ah okay |
| 05:37:58 | Soap | but I think you should keep in in integer fractions of original framerate |
| 05:38:11 | Soap | take a 24 fps source to 12 or 8 |
| 05:38:39 | Soap | a 30 fps source to 15 or 10 (or 6) |
| 05:38:48 | Llorean | Soap: I don't think 8 is a choice, is it? |
| 05:39:00 | mike__ | it is letting me enter custom values |
| 05:39:05 | Soap | that I can't say. |
| 05:39:16 | Llorean | mike__: mpeg 2 though, 4 won't play in Rockbox |
| 05:39:29 | Soap | ffmepg will do non-standard values, as to if it allows totally-wack ones I can't say. |
| 05:39:33 | Llorean | Soap: I'm pretty sure the valid frame rate choices are 10, 12, 15, 24, 25, 29.97 and 30 |
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| 05:39:50 | Llorean | 10, 12, and 15, being the "legal" non-standards. |
| 05:40:01 | * | Llorean isn't sure either, though |
| 05:41:38 | Soap | I know the other encoders which allow "illegal" framerates take any integer divisor, but they do frame duplication. I still don't fully understand how ffmpeg appears to be the one to do it w/o. |
| 05:42:47 | mike__ | thanks! |
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| 05:44:19 | Soap | though, I guess on the iPod video stutters from a 24 -> 10 conversion are going to be the least of your stutters. |
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| 05:58:07 | fed | Hi, is jhMikeS by any chance? |
| 05:59:38 | fed | I have been working with the recording.c code for a bit, and I am now stuck on something. |
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| 06:00:15 | fed | I'd like to change the prerecording time after prerecording has started, but before I start recording. |
| 06:00:24 | fed | Any idea if this is possible? |
| 06:01:13 | fed | I think it needs to be done in mpeg.c or pcm_record.c |
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| 06:10:16 | JdGordon | ah fuck! |
| 06:11:37 | aliask | oh no! |
| 06:11:53 | aliask | (what's wrong?) |
| 06:13:36 | fed | I'll try again later... |
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| 06:18:13 | * | JdGordon really shouldnt code before lunch and after midnight :p |
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| 06:23:03 | JdGordon | hey cool... build.rockbox show th local time the build is excepted to finish, not gmt like it used to :D |
| 06:23:42 | Llorean | And the countdown |
| 06:24:54 | JdGordon | yeah, i noticed the countdown on monday |
| 06:26:05 | JdGordon | last thing it needs is the middle table with the downloads to update automatically |
| 06:26:59 | jhMikeS | fed: it's possible, yes |
| 06:29:12 | jhMikeS | woops fed, left :p |
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| 06:48:39 | JdGordon | anyone want to test a patch to clean up the settings code I want to commit? |
| 06:48:57 | JdGordon | shouldnt be any visible changes, unless there are bugs which I havnt spotted yet.... |
| 06:49:03 | JdGordon | ... which means there probably is bugs... |
| 06:53:00 | jhMikeS | sure...any procedure in mind? |
| 06:53:49 | JdGordon | not really... I tihnk the worst bit is that some setting lists might look upsidedown... |
| 06:54:00 | JdGordon | just fixing up the patch to put online |
| 06:54:18 | * | JdGordon hoping to save 500 bytes so I can apply 7417 :D |
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| 06:54:43 | jhMikeS | upside down? :) |
| 06:55:07 | JdGordon | the order might be backwards... |
| 06:55:10 | * | jhMikeS thinks he can adapt |
| 06:55:25 | JdGordon | btw, inverted lcd and upside down on sansa is cool :) |
| 06:55:30 | Llorean | Saving 500 bytes doesn't change anything about 7417 |
| 06:55:31 | JdGordon | completly unusable though, but cool |
| 06:55:35 | Llorean | It doesn't magically make it a better use of that space. |
| 06:55:42 | * | JdGordon was being funny Llorean |
| 06:55:56 | JdGordon | .. thats what the :D was for... |
| 06:56:08 | Llorean | Being a happy face, it could also mean "I'm happy about it" |
| 06:56:16 | Llorean | It's kinda hard to tell. :-P |
| 06:56:17 | conorkirkpatrick | It's on! |
| 06:56:18 | Llorean | Sorry |
| 06:57:06 | conorkirkpatrick | In one corner, weighing in at 170 pounds, we have Llorean! |
| 06:57:06 | conorkirkpatrick | In the other corner, weighing 165 pounds, we have JdGordon! |
| 06:57:06 | conorkirkpatrick | Keep it clean! |
| 06:57:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK conorkirkpatrick |
| 06:57:06 | conorkirkpatrick | Fight! |
| 06:57:24 | scorche | >_> |
| 06:57:29 | jhMikeS | btw, if you keep your jpegs as negatives, invert is surely helpful :) |
| 06:57:43 | JdGordon | 165 punds!! hahahaha... try 110 |
| 06:58:36 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/settings_changes.diff">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/settings_changes.diff test please |
| 06:58:51 | JdGordon | and let me know if any gcc warnings comes up... my gcc is fubar |
| 06:59:07 | conorkirkpatrick | /* update this to latest version if a change to the api struct breaks |
| 06:59:07 | conorkirkpatrick | backwards compatibility (and please take the opportunity to sort in any |
| 06:59:07 | conorkirkpatrick | new function which are "waiting" at the end of the function table) */ |
| 06:59:07 | conorkirkpatrick | -#define PLUGIN_MIN_API_VERSION 61 |
| 06:59:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 06:59:08 | conorkirkpatrick | +#define PLUGIN_MIN_API_VERSION 62 |
| 06:59:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 06:59:08 | conorkirkpatrick | |
| 06:59:10 | conorkirkpatrick | /* plugin return codes */ |
| 06:59:12 | conorkirkpatrick | enum plugin_status { |
| 06:59:14 | conorkirkpatrick | @@ -418,8 +418,6 @@ |
| 06:59:16 | conorkirkpatrick | int (*sound_default)(int setting); |
| 06:59:18 | conorkirkpatrick | #endif |
| 06:59:20 | conorkirkpatrick | void (*sound_set)(int setting, int value); |
| 06:59:21 | jhMikeS | um...pastebin that? |
| 06:59:22 | conorkirkpatrick | - bool (*set_sound)(const unsigned char * string, |
| 06:59:23 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 06:59:24 | conorkirkpatrick | - int* variable, int setting); |
| 06:59:26 | conorkirkpatrick | int (*sound_min)(int setting); |
| 06:59:28 | conorkirkpatrick | int (*sound_max)(int setting); |
| 06:59:30 | conorkirkpatrick | #ifndef SIMULATOR |
| 06:59:32 | conorkirkpatrick | @@ -509,6 +507,8 @@ |
| 06:59:34 | conorkirkpatrick | void (*gui_syncstatusbar_draw)(struct gui_syncstatusbar * bars, bool force_redraw); |
| 06:59:36 | conorkirkpatrick | |
| 06:59:38 | conorkirkpatrick | /* options */ |
| 06:59:40 | conorkirkpatrick | + const struct settings_list* (*find_setting)(void* variable, int *id); |
| 06:59:42 | conorkirkpatrick | + bool (*option_screen)(struct settings_list *setting, bool use_temp_var); |
| 06:59:44 | conorkirkpatrick | bool (*set_option)(const char* string, void* variable, |
| 06:59:46 | conorkirkpatrick | enum optiontype type, const struct opt_items* options, |
| 06:59:47 | Mode | "#rockbox +b %conorkirkpatrick!*@* " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
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| 07:00:07 | scorche | sorry...was a bit slow...had to /who =/ |
| 07:00:34 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: any player you'd like this tested on in particular? |
| 07:00:45 | JdGordon | its for all, so any |
| 07:01:10 | Mode | "#rockbox -b %conorkirkpatrick!*@* " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 07:01:16 | JdGordon | it saves 300bytes on the h300 which is nice |
| 07:02:29 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:02:38 | jhMikeS | but adds 2K to Ondio (where all the saved bytes go)? :P |
| 07:03:06 | JdGordon | ouch, wtf? |
| 07:03:19 | jhMikeS | joking |
| 07:03:25 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 07:03:25 | * | JdGordon slaps jhMikeS |
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| 07:04:39 | jhMikeS | got a fuzz in option_select.c |
| 07:05:08 | jhMikeS | ok, compiling |
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| 07:05:42 | JdGordon | diff must suck, I did the diff from a up to date svn |
| 07:06:34 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: oh, you know about the ppl complaining about random pixels at te top of the screen on the sansas? |
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| 07:06:48 | JdGordon | I just resently started getting them in the BL and they disappear once rb starts |
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| 07:07:42 | JdGordon | dunno if that will help anyone figure out what the problem is or not |
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| 07:09:50 | jhMikeS | I get the if I hold a button other than |<< |
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| 07:12:36 | * | jhMikeS had to do a full rebuild on another source tree ... so just one minute here |
| 07:13:02 | JdGordon | no prob |
| 07:13:21 | jhMikeS | so just run around to various menus and settings and check? |
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| 07:13:31 | JdGordon | pretty much |
| 07:13:41 | JdGordon | if all is good you shouldnt notice any changes |
| 07:15:54 | jhMikeS | I don't get a "Cancelled" now if I don't change the setting. Did that just change? |
| 07:16:12 | scorche | didnt we do away with that a while back? |
| 07:16:25 | Mode | "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 07:16:25 | * | jhMikeS never noticed till now |
| 07:16:55 | JdGordon | yes thats fixed |
| 07:17:32 | JdGordon | you still et cancelled if you do change it and hit left though |
| 07:17:40 | jhMikeS | things look good so far |
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| 07:19:10 | hw1227 | Pardon me if I'm interrupting... Is there any specific level of FLAC compression that is known to work well with the iPod? |
| 07:19:25 | scorche | all should be realtime |
| 07:19:47 | * | jhMikeS would like a tick next to the currenly selected option though that follows the cursor if the option takes effect upon moving the cursor or stays put if it doesn't. that's probably been debated alot at some point. |
| 07:20:12 | hw1227 | scorche: k, thanks. |
| 07:21:57 | * | jhMikeS would also like to do away with that scan-for-presets thing in the FM screen. It doesn't even allow region setting before doing a scan and it's just clumsy imho. |
| 07:22:34 | * | jhMikeS speaks of the nag when no presets are loaded |
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| 07:22:47 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: re the tick, I think its only needed if the setting doesnt take effect immediatly |
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| 07:25:07 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: I was just suggesting that it have consistent display for all...it also highlights the fact it's an option even more. |
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| 07:26:46 | JdGordon | the first version of the origional settings change patch (the one where settings_list was introduced) had that tick |
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| 07:31:17 | JdGordon | yay :) moved more misplaced code around and saved another 100 bytes |
| 07:31:19 | jhMikeS | why remove it? Actually it makes sense too to keep it on the value it will take if it's cancelled. |
| 07:31:33 | JdGordon | noone liked it... |
| 07:31:43 | JdGordon | it can be easily added later |
| 07:34:01 | jhMikeS | I don't see any problems so far with anything :) |
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| 07:39:36 | JdGordon | ok, here goes.... |
| 07:47:55 | JdGordon | holy crap! green top table! |
| 07:48:36 | scorche | hurry JdGordon!...you cant let it be that way for too long! |
| 07:48:53 | JdGordon | its so boring being green though |
| 07:49:00 | * | JdGordon wants the xmas lights table back |
| 07:49:57 | * | JdGordon also just made the inline settings painfully trivial to implement |
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| 07:52:42 | n17ikh|Lappy | hi folks, anyone awake? |
| 07:52:46 | n17ikh|Lappy | I'm having a problem |
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| 07:52:58 | n17ikh|Lappy | I just updated rockbox on my iriver H10 20gb |
| 07:53:07 | n17ikh|Lappy | from a build that was a couple months old, to the latest |
| 07:53:18 | n17ikh|Lappy | and I noticed it doesn't change color of the icons anymore |
| 07:53:29 | n17ikh|Lappy | they stay black, which is a problem because I use a black background |
| 07:53:46 | scorche | yes....the icons are a bit different now |
| 07:54:02 | n17ikh|Lappy | is there a way for me to fix this? a bmp file for me to edit? |
| 07:54:23 | n17ikh|Lappy | or, is it not exactly that simple |
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| 07:56:51 | amiconn | JdGordon: The original settings patch did *not* have a tick like jhMikeS described |
| 07:57:22 | amiconn | It had a tick that stayed at the old setting regardless of whether it's a "live" setting or not |
| 07:57:42 | amiconn | s/old setting/old value/ |
| 07:57:53 | * | JdGordon didnt say it was exactly how he suggested |
| 07:58:00 | * | JdGordon gone |
| 07:58:53 | n17ikh|Lappy | is it a known issue? (icons on black background = gone, that is_ |
| 07:59:26 | scorche | n17ikh|Lappy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomIcons |
| 07:59:49 | n17ikh|Lappy | ah ha |
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| 08:08:38 | amiconn | JdGordon: Umm, standard menus are now snappy, but the debug menu is still lagging. Maybe it affects those which use the oldmenu wrapper? |
| 08:14:09 | n17ikh|Lappy | ah ha, indeed |
| 08:14:09 | n17ikh|Lappy | hello there lurvely custom icons |
| 08:18:32 | ptw | i've successfully printed hello world w/ rockbox on the Gigabeat S |
| 08:18:44 | scorche | \o/ |
| 08:18:58 | ptw | we have print :) |
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| 08:22:41 | ptw419 | has a few bugs, but it prints hello world, then reboots. shouldn't be hard to fix |
| 08:22:53 | * | amiconn wonders whether the ipl guys know that they're running the G3 (and perhaps also G1 and G2) ipods at 66MHz only |
| 08:23:24 | scorche | amiconn: i believe DerPapst was talking about it earlier |
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| 08:24:39 | amiconn | Is their irc channel logged? |
| 08:24:49 | scorche | not sure |
| 08:25:08 | scorche | he was in here for your conversation though |
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| 08:25:20 | scorche | they didnt say anything important in their channel |
| 08:25:53 | scorche | just sort of a "/me is watching an interesting conversation in #rockbox" |
| 08:26:00 | GodEater_ | it is logged yes |
| 08:26:05 | GodEater_ | but I forget where |
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| 08:26:35 | * | amiconn used to keep joined to #ipodlinux for a while |
| 08:27:23 | amiconn | But there never was much conversation, so I stopped again ~2 months ago |
| 08:27:37 | scorche | still is like that |
| 08:27:39 | GodEater_ | no - it's pretty quiet compared to us rabble ;) |
| 08:28:04 | scorche | and practically nothing is ever said in ipodlinux-dev |
| 08:28:17 | GodEater_ | I go there to watch the tumbleweed |
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| 08:33:12 | markun | ptw419: congrats! |
| 08:34:02 | ptw419 | ty markun |
| 08:34:33 | * | TiMiD[FD] wants his commit access back |
| 08:34:48 | scorche | did you mail the swedes? |
| 08:35:08 | TiMiD[FD] | yes I did |
| 08:35:27 | scorche | well, bagder was on vacation....i believe he is back now |
| 08:35:42 | TiMiD[FD] | I mailed daniel |
| 08:35:58 | TiMiD[FD] | I wonder if he was the right person for that |
| 08:36:01 | scorche | that would be bagder =) |
| 08:36:06 | TiMiD[FD] | ah |
| 08:36:10 | ptw419 | aliask is also working to get an S tree out, and working on a scramble function for the S |
| 08:36:28 | TiMiD[FD] | I never knew which one was dan between zagor and bagder |
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| 08:37:12 | scorche | zagor is bjorn |
| 08:37:30 | TiMiD[FD] | their nicks are as explicit as the variables names in the rockbox drivers ^^ |
| 08:38:03 | lachlan12354 | ptw419: This is great news, I can't wait for a S port. Well done! |
| 08:38:33 | TiMiD[FD] | oh I've got a new mail |
| 08:38:40 | TiMiD[FD] | maybe ... |
| 08:39:20 | * | amiconn points TiMiD[FD] to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks |
| 08:39:46 | TiMiD[FD] | ah it was a work mail ... too bad |
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| 08:40:07 | TiMiD[FD] | oh |
| 08:40:29 | TiMiD[FD] | never knew that page was there |
| 08:40:44 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll add myself if I remember my wiki password |
| 08:41:20 | amiconn | The page can be found easily... |
| 08:41:34 | TiMiD[FD] | but I never searched |
| 08:41:40 | amiconn | Just 2 clicks from the frontpage |
| 08:42:15 | | Quit n17ikh|Lappy ("bah") |
| 08:42:50 | TiMiD[FD] | I never really knew there was such a page in the wiki so I never searched ... |
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| 08:48:34 | TiMiD[FD] | yah added myself |
| 08:48:54 | TiMiD[FD] | at least did something useful today |
| 08:50:11 | TiMiD[FD] | oh there are other people living in the asian zone ! |
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| 08:50:36 | scorche | TiMiD[FD]: i heard it was a populous place... |
| 08:51:45 | TiMiD[FD] | yes but they cannot speak english so ... |
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| 08:53:05 | scorche | then what language are you speaking? |
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| 08:53:26 | TiMiD[FD] | I'm french so I speak french |
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| 08:54:56 | GodEater_ | weird - I suddenly understand french! |
| 08:54:56 | TiMiD[FD] | but hmm I'm expatriated |
| 08:55:30 | GodEater_ | someone should update the Gigabeat S30 thread in the New Ports forum with our good news |
| 08:55:55 | TiMiD[FD] | GodEater_: that's because you're on crack ^^ |
| 08:56:13 | GodEater_ | o_0 |
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| 09:16:28 | ptw419 | done... |
| 09:17:36 | GodEater_ | yay |
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| 09:19:08 | ptw419 | now that the hard part is done we can just sit down and relax until zune-linux cracks the zune security :) |
| 09:21:44 | lachlan12354 | what? they already have! |
| 09:22:49 | ptw419 | is there a zune wiki? |
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| 09:24:03 | scorche | "<nekura42> actually, one of the reasons I want to get Wifi on the iPod is so I can make an MMO on it ::grin::"...i really dont see why these people dont just get a PDA or a small laptop... |
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| 09:25:32 | bluet | what's up with this new main menu thing? |
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| 09:27:23 | ptw419 | if I wanted to create a Zune wiki for a Zune port, just to start it up, would it go under inactive target? |
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| 09:28:52 | petur | you can always be optimistic and put it under New Ports ;) |
| 09:29:31 | petur | the Inactive ones are those that were abandoned |
| 09:29:39 | ptw419 | I see. |
| 09:30:06 | bluet | hmm, rockbox and wifi |
| 09:30:17 | petur | but unless custom code can be run on the zune, I don't see the point |
| 09:30:31 | ptw419 | no ones really working on a Zune port that i know of, although it probably would not be very much different from the gigabeat S port if/when the security is cracked |
| 09:31:06 | ptw419 | i think i will just post the info on the forum. I just wanted to post the extracted firmware |
| 09:31:09 | petur | do not expect much (anything?) from those zune-linux guys |
| 09:31:25 | scorche | i believe he is well aware =) |
| 09:31:34 | ptw419 | i expect everything from them ;) |
| 09:32:02 | petur | they can't even manage to keep their funny reading material on the net |
| 09:32:03 | ptw419 | they just have this aura of legitness(is that even a word?) about them... |
| 09:32:12 | dan_a | But they've done so much! They had code running on the Zune, then they didn't, then they set up a forum, then they took it down again... |
| 09:32:16 | bluet | maybe hvsc was what made the databse update slow |
| 09:32:53 | ptw419 | well, i think this extracted firmware would help for the right person to come along. |
| 09:33:09 | scorche | awww...forum is down?!?! |
| 09:33:16 | ptw419 | for some reason the zune-linux people got this funny idea in their head that the firmware was encrypted... |
| 09:33:17 | Llorean | bluet: HVSC is far too many songs for inclusion in the database. It might work, but it would take an incredible period of time to build. |
| 09:33:43 | scorche | ptw419: what other reason could there be for them not being able to get into it? |
| 09:33:44 | petur | scorche: somebody wanted to help the rest of the world and deleted it ;) |
| 09:34:03 | bluet | Llorean: it's done now |
| 09:34:12 | bluet | but browsing is a bit tedious |
| 09:34:12 | ptw419 | hashed and signed maybe, but not encrypted... |
| 09:34:33 | ptw419 | scorche: they didn't know what they were doing? |
| 09:34:52 | ptw419 | scorche: or know what the hell they were talking about? |
| 09:35:06 | scorche | haha..."Im incredibly pissed that one of OUR team members would do such a thing"....well.../thats what happens when you give admin status to kids who volunteer!!!/ |
| 09:35:31 | scorche | such valuable data that was lost too.. |
| 09:35:39 | petur | rofl |
| 09:36:25 | ptw419 | heh |
| 09:36:39 | dan_a | Fear not! They're on myspace now, so I'm sure it'll be released in no time |
| 09:39:13 | scorche | they really have absolutely no clue...they suggest putting DSL on the zune, "Given the harware detection built into DSL it could work although you would most likely get some kind of X Windows error." |
| 09:39:32 | petur | hahaha |
| 09:40:53 | ptw419 | i found it funny when they were suggesting to run a linux distro build for an x86 machine... |
| 09:41:22 | scorche | oh...and of course "they were about to crack the zune, but now all of a sudden the progress is gone!" |
| 09:41:38 | dan_a | amiconn: For the record, perfcalc is now showing values above 66MHz. Well done :D |
| 09:42:26 | scorche | ptw419: oh...the autodetection DSL has would take care of that... |
| 09:42:47 | bluet | how would they boot it? |
| 09:43:51 | scorche | bluet: when you turn things on, things boot...didnt you know? |
| 09:43:58 | bluet | oh, right |
| 09:44:13 | GodEater_ | so long as there's enough magic smoke |
| 09:44:13 | bluet | just put the zune on top of a dsl cd |
| 09:44:29 | Llorean | Porting by osmosis? |
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| 09:45:16 | * | jhMikeS needs a guinea pig to test a pcm update (big patch) on a non-sansa portal player target |
| 09:45:23 | bluet | i wonder how long deleting hvsc will take |
| 09:45:43 | bluet | it took about four hours to transfer |
| 09:46:01 | markun | bluet: I also noticed that rockbox is not very quick with deleting a lot of files |
| 09:46:12 | bluet | i'm using ums |
| 09:46:34 | bluet | 118 minutes remaining |
| 09:46:40 | bluet | 148... |
| 09:47:16 | bluet | 196... |
| 09:47:18 | JdGordon | amiconn: yes, there is still an extra list draw in the debug menu lists... |
| 09:47:31 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: ill test on a nano... |
| 09:47:52 | bluet | jhMikeS: like a h10? |
| 09:47:56 | bluet | an* |
| 09:50:24 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: bah, nano has no batt |
| 09:51:50 | jhMikeS | bluet: yeah, that will do |
| 09:52:01 | bluet | is it a binary patch? |
| 09:52:07 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: no batt or no charge? |
| 09:52:21 | JdGordon | no charge |
| 09:52:32 | jhMikeS | bluet: a build? if you need that it's np to whip up. |
| 09:52:46 | bluet | that'd be great |
| 09:52:48 | JdGordon | :'( i still get a crach every-so-often going into the file browser with the msd :'( |
| 09:52:54 | bluet | i have no compiler her at the moment |
| 09:53:01 | bluet | here |
| 09:53:05 | jhMikeS | which audio codec has h10? |
| 09:53:12 | bluet | hmm |
| 09:53:44 | bluet | i don't know |
| 09:54:08 | ptw419 | the gdb stub in rockbox is only for iriver right? |
| 09:54:15 | jhMikeS | that's ok...I'll find it real quick |
| 09:54:35 | bluet | jhMikeS: do you mean the codecs for decoding files? |
| 09:54:36 | ptw419 | and archos |
| 09:55:47 | jhMikeS | bluet: no that hardware...WM8731 I see |
| 09:55:56 | bluet | yeah, thought so |
| 09:56:27 | jhMikeS | bluet: 5GB or the other? |
| 09:56:38 | bluet | 6 GB actually |
| 09:56:49 | bluet | but it's the "same" as the 5 GB |
| 09:56:50 | pondlife | Quick question re autoscore and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7422. In tagcache.c/tagtree.c we set the score to be autoscore/10 moving it to a range of 0-10. Is this a good idea, or should we leave tags as they are? |
| 09:56:53 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 09:56:58 | bluet | not the 20 GB |
| 09:57:14 | bluet | 6 GB mtp with radio |
| 09:58:07 | ptw419 | updated zune forum if anyone wants to take a look and disassemble the zune firmware files |
| 09:58:14 | jhMikeS | all I really need is a quick playback test and a recording test. if things sound fine and it starts/stops/paused ok, all is good. |
| 09:58:21 | Llorean | pondlife: I think it's intentional that the score is presented as 0-10, I thought that's what was available if you manually scored one in the past? |
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| 09:58:44 | pondlife | Llorean: Ratings go from 0-10, autoscores normally go from 0-100 |
| 09:59:19 | pondlife | That's how the tags normally work anyway... |
| 09:59:27 | Llorean | "Normally" as in what? |
| 09:59:35 | pondlife | As in - in the file. |
| 09:59:45 | pondlife | Allegedly |
| 09:59:55 | Llorean | I thought the autoscore was simply a parallel to the rating, but created by algorithm instead of manually entered. |
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| 10:00:05 | pondlife | It seems odd we are taking a value from the file and dividing by 10 though. |
| 10:00:26 | pondlife | Normally we'd just give the user enough rope... |
| 10:00:32 | Llorean | I thought autoscore was entirely an internal value in the database. |
| 10:00:39 | Llorean | Not something a user even has access to. |
| 10:00:39 | pondlife | Nope |
| 10:01:11 | Llorean | pondlife: tag_virt_autoscore <−−- I assume "virt" means "virtual"? |
| 10:01:59 | pondlife | I don't use the feature, shall I just close the bug as "Not a bug"... |
| 10:02:06 | Llorean | I'm pretty sure it's not. |
| 10:02:09 | pondlife | i.e. this is intentional. |
| 10:02:15 | markun | ptw419: can you take a picture of your Gigabeat with "hello world"? |
| 10:02:35 | ptw419 | i can try w/ my camera |
| 10:02:36 | Llorean | I'd say close it, yes. |
| 10:03:26 | * | JdGordon killed the build servers.... |
| 10:03:46 | markun | ptw419: and then post a link on mygigabeat of course :) |
| 10:04:47 | petur | JdGordon: no you didn't ;) |
| 10:05:10 | petur | it was slow however: "the most recent build took 9mins 59secs" |
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| 10:05:51 | pondlife | It hasn't picked up JdGordon's last commit though |
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| 10:06:06 | JdGordon | front page hasnt |
| 10:06:07 | pondlife | Oops, yes it has.. |
| 10:06:13 | JdGordon | build.svn as |
| 10:07:12 | jhMikeS | bluet: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=1;filename=rockbox-h10-5GB.zip |
| 10:08:07 | bluet | what does the rockbox.mi4 file do? |
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| 10:08:18 | jhMikeS | it's the firmware |
| 10:08:30 | bluet | ah |
| 10:08:41 | bluet | the "kernel"? |
| 10:09:02 | jhMikeS | and the rest of the core functionality |
| 10:09:22 | bluet | and rockbox.h10? |
| 10:09:26 | ptw419 | batteries are dead for my camera, I will get some tommorow and do it then. |
| 10:09:41 | bluet | same thing for older versions? |
| 10:09:49 | bluet | i had one in / |
| 10:09:57 | jhMikeS | bluet: that's obsolete. everything was renamed *.mi4 for pp |
| 10:09:59 | ptw419 | are there any functions in rockbox to make the font bigger b/c i don't know if my cam has the resolution for the text. its very small |
| 10:10:03 | bluet | pp? |
| 10:10:07 | jhMikeS | portal player |
| 10:10:20 | scorche | ptw419: we just change fonts =/ |
| 10:10:36 | bluet | the last time (also the first time) i installed rockbox was last year |
| 10:10:50 | ptw419 | whats a bigger font to use? |
| 10:10:52 | bluet | late december |
| 10:11:08 | bluet | ptw419: one you like |
| 10:11:25 | Llorean | ptw419: Most of them have a number in the name. Nimbus19 is quite large. |
| 10:11:27 | Llorean | I think it's 19 |
| 10:11:29 | jhMikeS | wow...of course I don't I have a copy of rb more than a few hours old on anything :) |
| 10:11:50 | bluet | well, i just updated |
| 10:11:58 | ptw419 | this one is on STYLE_DEFAULT |
| 10:12:01 | * | jhMikeS gets the goat ready |
| 10:12:04 | ptw419 | ok |
| 10:12:36 | bluet | i'm running the 4:20 build i think |
| 10:12:42 | ptw419 | markun: tommorow i'll run out and get some batteries. my cam also does a little video so if i can figure it out i'll do video as well |
| 10:12:42 | bluet | or 5:41 |
| 10:14:13 | ptw419 | but its bed time. another day tommorow. |
| 10:14:35 | bluet | hey, nvram |
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| 10:15:17 | jhMikeS | bluet: so what's it doing? |
| 10:15:44 | * | jhMikeS is always impatient |
| 10:15:45 | bluet | oh, i'm just backing up my old rockbox dir |
| 10:16:00 | bluet | using usb 1.1 |
| 10:16:01 | bluet | yay |
| 10:17:41 | bluet | what is this patch supposed to do? |
| 10:18:46 | bluet | aaaand backed up |
| 10:19:02 | jhMikeS | some internal stuff with locking the audio interrupts and a cleanup of the pcm layer code (esp. for pp). it should also fix a problem with crashes after recording and other things too numerous to mention. |
| 10:19:38 | bluet | what's so special about pp? |
| 10:20:38 | jhMikeS | nothing except that it's undocumented hardware and sometimes results aren't so predictable |
| 10:21:15 | jhMikeS | the pp5020 that the H10 has has been especially picky I hear |
| 10:21:23 | bluet | that sucks |
| 10:21:31 | bluet | have you tried to get the docs? |
| 10:21:45 | jhMikeS | heh...who doesn't want them |
| 10:22:03 | bluet | aaah, committing database |
| 10:23:02 | jhMikeS | watch the ears :) I don't know what it's going to do for sure. |
| 10:23:59 | bluet | so i'm the first one to try this? |
| 10:24:35 | jhMikeS | on not-an-e200, yes |
| 10:24:40 | bluet | cool |
| 10:25:18 | bluet | it says committing database\n[3/8] |
| 10:25:23 | bluet | what are there 8 of? |
| 10:25:31 | JdGordon | files |
| 10:26:48 | bluet | it has booted |
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| 10:27:16 | bluet | no sound |
| 10:27:24 | bluet | playback is way too fast |
| 10:27:32 | bluet | judging by the counter |
| 10:27:48 | bluet | two seconds very second i'd say |
| 10:27:51 | bluet | every |
| 10:27:52 | bluet | XTerm.cutchars: @,;"'()<>[]{|} |
| 10:27:57 | bluet | oops |
| 10:28:08 | jhMikeS | Makes sense actually. |
| 10:28:38 | bluet | not to be i'm afraid |
| 10:28:48 | jhMikeS | hmmm...will it at least stop and pause without a crash? |
| 10:29:14 | bluet | pause is good |
| 10:29:32 | bluet | hmm, jumped a bit forward when i restarted it |
| 10:30:03 | bluet | must be the fading |
| 10:30:11 | bluet | stopping worked |
| 10:30:18 | bluet | still no crash |
| 10:30:25 | jhMikeS | enter recording? |
| 10:31:03 | bluet | entered |
| 10:31:13 | bluet | the db meter works it seems |
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| 10:32:05 | jhMikeS | ok, so the one change to the pcm size can be held off and the remainder is safe. |
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| 10:32:46 | bluet | should i try to record something? |
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| 10:33:07 | jhMikeS | sure...even if it's silent it should record silence at least |
| 10:33:27 | bluet | there, still working |
| 10:34:01 | jhMikeS | thanks |
| 10:34:16 | bluet | hmm |
| 10:34:27 | bluet | playback of the wav file won't start |
| 10:34:33 | bluet | just sits at 0:00 |
| 10:34:46 | bluet | i think it just crashed |
| 10:34:55 | jhMikeS | can you stop it? |
| 10:35:37 | jhMikeS | did it actually write a file > 0 bytes? |
| 10:36:02 | bluet | yeah |
| 10:36:06 | bluet | it said so |
| 10:36:11 | bluet | 5 MB |
| 10:36:18 | bluet | a little under 30 seconds |
| 10:36:39 | bluet | i'll play it on my computer |
| 10:37:02 | jhMikeS | so stop did stop the playback stuck at 0:00? |
| 10:37:14 | bluet | no |
| 10:37:18 | bluet | nothing worked |
| 10:37:26 | bluet | not even the off button |
| 10:37:43 | bluet | i get sound on the recording |
| 10:38:02 | bluet | on the pc, that is |
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| 10:40:08 | bluet | so, recording works, playback doesn |
| 10:40:11 | bluet | 't |
| 10:41:00 | midkay | JdGordon: isn't it about time to convert the debug menu into the new menu system? :) |
| 10:41:01 | jhMikeS | hmmm... |
| 10:41:15 | midkay | it's been on the old system _forever_ and it's, afaik, the only one left to do... |
| 10:41:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Not all pp targets were changed to .mi4. Only the ones which use .mi4 for their OF |
| 10:41:45 | amiconn | Ipods are using rockbox.ipod as usual |
| 10:41:46 | jhMikeS | amiconn: oh...somehow I get the impression it was all :\ |
| 10:42:34 | Llorean | It's all targets that use the mi4 format for their native firmware. |
| 10:43:07 | * | amiconn spots a modifying echo ;) |
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| 10:43:24 | Llorean | :-P |
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| 10:44:00 | jhMikeS | bluet: willing to try any others changes? Replacing the mi4 file would be enough. |
| 10:44:14 | bluet | sure |
| 10:44:18 | * | midkay remembers when amiconn did the modifying-echo thing to scorche about a week ago :) |
| 10:44:24 | scorche | =) |
| 10:44:59 | bluet | four meters of headphone cable ftw |
| 10:45:34 | jhMikeS | bluet: so it got stuck only after recording, right? |
| 10:45:45 | bluet | not right after recording |
| 10:45:58 | bluet | but i tried to play back the recording |
| 10:46:13 | bluet | i can try to play it after first recording |
| 10:46:24 | bluet | after *not* recording |
| 10:47:28 | jhMikeS | I understand. Just playing something sometime after recording something I mean. |
| 10:48:07 | bluet | it could be the file |
| 10:49:32 | bluet | the database commit code needs some optimization |
| 10:50:08 | bluet | only committing every other file would be a good start :p |
| 10:51:34 | jhMikeS | the file should be fine if it plays on the computer |
| 10:51:50 | bluet | yeah, probably |
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| 10:56:36 | tumu | are FS #6896 and FS #7032 dead on the sansa? |
| 10:56:40 | jhMikeS | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/MichaelSevakis?rev=1;filename=rockbox.mi4 |
| 10:57:41 | bluet | now to turn off auto updating the db... |
| 10:58:14 | bluet | right, i deleted the recordin |
| 10:58:14 | bluet | g |
| 10:58:35 | Llorean | tumu: Well, nobody with the new hardware has figured out the cause of 6896, and the original responder doesn't seem to be responding to 7032 |
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| 11:00:18 | tumu | well, both are occuring on my e280 |
| 11:00:57 | bluet | yay, now it doesn't take 10 minutes to turn on |
| 11:01:05 | toed | er, I set my rockbox language to chinese for kicks but it seems that my font didn't have chinese characters and now all the menu entries are empty |
| 11:01:12 | toed | is there a way to get back to english? |
| 11:01:20 | bluet | jhMikeS: we have sound |
| 11:01:44 | petur | toed: edit the config file from your pc |
| 11:01:46 | Llorean | tumu: Feel free to isolate the causes then. |
| 11:01:58 | petur | toed: or reset your settings ;) |
| 11:01:59 | bluet | pausing works... |
| 11:02:00 | Llorean | tumu: Nobody can solve the problems if the problems aren't happening to them. |
| 11:02:07 | jhMikeS | bluet: yeah, I switched the sample size back |
| 11:02:07 | toed | petur: how do I do the latter again? |
| 11:02:19 | bluet | so it's "stock"? |
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| 11:02:29 | petur | toed: depends on your player |
| 11:02:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:02:40 | toed | ipod 5g |
| 11:03:13 | tumu | Llorean, indeed.. for 7032, i think .spc files did have issues |
| 11:03:17 | petur | toed: I think it was fiddling with the hold switch while rockbox is booting... Llorean? |
| 11:03:31 | bluet | hmm, the playback stopped a little |
| 11:03:44 | bluet | for a split second |
| 11:03:46 | tumu | Llorean, removed them for now, have to test again |
| 11:04:17 | Llorean | toed: Yes, after the Apple logo has been on screen a short time (when you turn on the player), turn on the hold switch, and it should cause the settings to reset. |
| 11:07:19 | toed | great, thanks |
| 11:07:56 | jhMikeS | bluet: just once? |
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| 11:08:42 | bluet | jhMikeS: so far, yes |
| 11:10:21 | JdGordon | midkay: the debug menu wont be converted... not worth the effort |
| 11:10:28 | JdGordon | it will add heaps to the bin size |
| 11:10:33 | JdGordon | and it a massive PITA |
| 11:10:51 | midkay | JdGordon: i see... |
| 11:10:51 | tumu | Llorean, yes, uploading bunch of .spc files messes up the database init/update |
| 11:12:09 | JdGordon | amiconn: if i can be bothererd im going to convert the mmc/sd card debug screen to a list today or tomorow, should i only do it for sansa? or for ondio also? bearing in mind it will prob be red delta |
| 11:12:14 | tumu | Llorean, needs few db inits and reboots to succeed |
| 11:15:09 | jhMikeS | bluet: does it now pick up again after recording? |
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| 11:18:29 | pixelma | bluebrother: I bet that's what the guy in the forum already does... how else would he be able to switch between builds that have problems... |
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| 11:20:46 | | Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 11:20:57 | linuxstb | amiconn: #ipodlinux is logged here - http://rainstorm.org/ipod/stats/ |
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| 11:27:45 | linuxstb | GodEater and GodEater_ : Either of you around? |
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| 11:35:47 | amiconn | linuxstb: Wow, what timezone is that server in?? |
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| 11:38:57 | amiconn | The logfile date seems to be one day ahead... |
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| 11:41:07 | * | [IDC]Dragon just looked at the build table |
| 11:41:42 | [IDC]Dragon | is it broken, or can that be reallly so green? |
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| 11:42:26 | scorche | [IDC]Dragon: i think JdGordon is on a new diet |
| 11:42:44 | petur | amiconn: no I think it is saved on the current day but actually contains the log of yesterday |
| 11:42:53 | petur | ie saved on 00:00 today |
| 11:43:14 | scorche | if only the delta chart was that green... |
| 11:43:21 | [IDC]Dragon | haha |
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| 11:45:16 | linuxstb | scorche: There would be nothing left of Rockbox if the delta chart was that green... |
| 11:46:00 | [IDC]Dragon | saving 20 bytes each day won't harm |
| 11:46:03 | scorche | linuxstb: it doesnt take much to go green, and the chart isnt too big |
| 11:46:57 | safetydan | I'd be interested in seeing the long term trend as a nice graph or similar |
| 11:47:07 | scorche | [IDC]Dragon: even then it wouldnt be enough for rombox though =/ |
| 11:47:44 | [IDC]Dragon | sniff |
| 11:48:11 | * | [IDC]Dragon still dreams about a 4KiB bootloader |
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| 11:49:19 | [IDC]Dragon | I've seen Atmel bootloaders in 2 KiB which read from a SD card, with FAT file system and all |
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| 11:49:35 | scorche | safetydan: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3978/analyses/41587;codehistory?project_id=3978&action=show&id=latest&controller=analyses&height=190&width=500 |
| 11:50:16 | safetydan | scorche, not binary size, but interesting enough |
| 11:50:25 | * | scorche nods |
| 11:50:27 | [IDC]Dragon | (did I tell my Archos has 512 KiB flash?) |
| 11:50:28 | safetydan | It's pretty obvious from the graph when software codec went in |
| 11:53:11 | * | amiconn suddenly wants a PP5020 target and a PP5002 target for himself |
| 11:53:16 | JdGordon | [IDC]Dragon: you still working on the loader for the rcorder? |
| 11:53:29 | [IDC]Dragon | no, I didn't start |
| 11:53:43 | [IDC]Dragon | there's a ton of things first |
| 11:53:57 | JdGordon | amiconn: i can get a mini 1g fairly cheap if you wanna pay for it and postage... |
| 11:53:58 | * | jhMikeS 's tester ran away as usual |
| 11:54:13 | amiconn | I'd rather want a H10 |
| 11:54:35 | [IDC]Dragon | amiconn: why "suddenly"? |
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| 11:55:15 | [IDC]Dragon | afk, lunch |
| 11:55:20 | JdGordon | amiconn: did you see my msg from about 40min ago? no answer is dont care? or go for it? |
| 11:56:08 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Since I started diving into OF disassemblies, trying to RE stuff |
| 11:56:30 | amiconn | JdGordon: I'd like to know the delta first, and see how it looks |
| 11:56:34 | scorche | amiconn: there were quite a few refurbished H10s sold on woot a bit ago for around 130USD |
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| 11:57:57 | JdGordon | h10's seem to go for about $150 AUD |
| 11:58:17 | scorche | so about the same |
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| 12:00:20 | jhMikeS | 1) collect underpants 2) ?? 3) playback engine rework ... hard to get people to help with 1). |
| 12:00:58 | JdGordon | 4) profit? |
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| 12:01:11 | scorche | jhMikeS: well, if you washed them more often... |
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| 12:01:57 | jhMikeS | ah...but the low level stuff is so dirty |
| 12:02:05 | scorche | caked? |
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| 12:02:19 | jhMikeS | caked with pp goo |
| 12:02:30 | scorche | =/ |
| 12:03:00 | midkay | let's keep this channel G-rated, please! |
| 12:03:07 | jhMikeS | ^^ |
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| 12:03:57 | * | scorche throws up a few ponies and unicorns to comply with the G rating requirements |
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| 12:04:14 | scorche | eek..."throws up" gave the wrong intentions... |
| 12:04:22 | pondlife | Wooh, ponies. Can I add kittens to the mix? |
| 12:04:28 | * | scorche adds "on the walls" |
| 12:04:35 | jhMikeS | about spells it out though |
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| 12:04:59 | * | jhMikeS wonders about scorche's favorite foods |
| 12:05:12 | midkay | just keep your "pp goo" out of this and it'll be fine. |
| 12:05:31 | jhMikeS | fine: portal player goo :) |
| 12:05:46 | scorche | jhMikeS: carne asada tacos and a lot of different japanese food =) |
| 12:05:58 | midkay | jhMikeS: this isn't the place for that..! |
| 12:06:05 | jhMikeS | sure it's not carne de caballo? |
| 12:06:30 | * | scorche looks that up |
| 12:07:00 | scorche | never had horsemeat.... |
| 12:07:21 | * | petur spots a whole page of the log to add to GoldenQuotes :p |
| 12:08:36 | scorche | petur: i am been procrastinating, but i am planning on putting up a QDB for this channel so we can put stuff there that we wouldnt put on GQ =P |
| 12:08:48 | scorche | i am been bad english... |
| 12:09:30 | JdGordon | amiconn: what do you think about jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/debug_lists.diff">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/debug_lists.diff its not the nicest way to do it, but it works.... |
| 12:09:38 | JdGordon | very small green delta on h300 also |
| 12:10:32 | JdGordon | thats dircache, tagcahce and fm |
| 12:11:42 | * | JdGordon trying to get through a few patches from ages ago beforre uni starts again |
| 12:13:42 | * | jhMikeS is getting the "put it in svn and let them report" urge that often results in faster "refinement". |
| 12:18:37 | JdGordon | bugger it... can someone check the sh bin delta with the above patch please? |
| 12:20:01 | * | jhMikeS can |
| 12:20:14 | * | JdGordon back in 45min.. no rush |
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| 12:26:00 | bluebrother | *grrr* Seems auto-update destroyed my PortableFirefox installation :( |
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| 12:33:48 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: My build for player was +484 |
| 12:34:41 | tumu | it seems the pluginmpegplayer wikipage has broken mencoder command line |
| 12:35:04 | scorche | well, it is a wiki... |
| 12:35:15 | tumu | well, i don't have an account... |
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| 12:36:23 | pondlife | JdGordon: I'd be interested in a *Nano* 1g, not a mini... do you have any of those lying around cheap?? |
| 12:38:05 | markun | tumu: what's wrong with it? |
| 12:38:33 | tumu | redundant -zoom and missing - before vf |
| 12:39:10 | tumu | tho the latter scale=.. could be merged with the former one as well |
| 12:39:38 | markun | tumu: yes, I see it |
| 12:39:43 | markun | I wonder who wrote that line.. |
| 12:40:01 | scorche | markun: well, it is a wiki =P |
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| 12:41:59 | tumu | might want to remove the -zoom from the options help above |
| 12:42:58 | markun | tumu: just create an account man :) |
| 12:43:05 | tumu | never :) |
| 12:43:11 | tumu | i hate forced accounts |
| 12:44:03 | markun | tumu: maybe you can write all your wiki problems in a mail and send it to to rockbox mailing list for someone to look at then :) |
| 12:44:52 | tumu | maybe when i gather enough of them :) |
| 12:45:05 | markun | I'm also not crazy about forced accounts |
| 12:45:31 | markun | but it's nice to see who fucked up a wiki page |
| 12:46:34 | Llorean | tumu: If you can stop anyone from ever using exploits to damage our wiki, and all intentional vandalism, I'm sure the forced account rule can be lifted. |
| 12:47:40 | tumu | i doubt forced accounts stop vandalism given enough effort.. |
| 12:48:21 | Llorean | They do reduce significantly drive-by spam though. |
| 12:48:49 | Llorean | Saying "You can't prevent all wrongdoing so why try to prevent any" is kinda silly. |
| 12:49:02 | tumu | i didn't say that |
| 12:51:02 | jhMikeS | markun: Interesting thing...after adding timer to gigabeat I found the lcd refresh to be 61.1Hz on my unit using test_scanrate. |
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| 12:53:54 | * | [IDC]Dragon just watched "iPhone: will it blend?" |
| 12:54:17 | [IDC]Dragon | they alse ran an iPod through the mixer |
| 12:54:25 | [IDC]Dragon | also |
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| 13:00:08 | markun | jhMikeS: that's interesting yes, maybe I made a mistake in my calculation |
| 13:00:16 | tumu | markun, also the vb_strategy should be set to 0 to force max bframe usage and vmax_b_frames to 4 as it is the max amount allowed |
| 13:01:29 | markun | tumu: aha, why are you telling me? :) |
| 13:01:43 | tumu | because you have wiki account and are eager to edit? :) |
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| 13:07:12 | * | amiconn wonders why pondlife would prefer a nano |
| 13:07:36 | amiconn | They're fingerprint collectors like all ipods except the minis and the nano G2 |
| 13:08:58 | scorche | after a few fingerprints get on it, fingerprints dont matter as much =/ |
| 13:09:40 | pondlife | Actually I'll probably go for a Sansa, but tiny size is most important |
| 13:09:58 | scorche | nanos are handy lil buggers |
| 13:11:01 | jhMikeS | sansa makes plently of fingerprints...my hands even changed the color of the anodizing |
| 13:14:01 | tumu | cool, videos work on sansa |
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| 13:21:31 | jhMikeS | markun: something struck me about the high current after boot on gigabeat. I also see exactly the same reading a second or two before the disk spins down after having played. I'm not sure if it means a darn thing atm. |
| 13:22:36 | safetydan | Does rockbox have an equivalent to ftell()? |
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| 13:27:13 | [IDC]Dragon | safetydan: I think fseek(CUR) will tell you |
| 13:27:14 | jhMikeS | lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_CUR) is all I came up with when I needed it (ftell returns filepos, right?) |
| 13:27:51 | safetydan | jhMikeS, that should do it. Should have thought of it myself. |
| 13:27:52 | safetydan | Cheers |
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| 13:54:45 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: ok thanks |
| 13:54:55 | JdGordon | pondlife: ill keep an eye out on the forums i frequent |
| 13:55:39 | pondlife | Like I said, a Sansa is looking more likely to be my choice, but I'd be interested if any turned up at a low price. |
| 13:56:02 | JdGordon | i hate the nano |
| 13:56:05 | JdGordon | screen is too small |
| 13:56:15 | JdGordon | te only thing it has is the crazy thinness |
| 13:56:21 | pondlife | Basically in order, what I need is - tiny, runs Rockbox, 2-4GB, easy controls |
| 13:56:41 | pondlife | price |
| 13:57:09 | pondlife | e260 is probably winning |
| 13:57:42 | JdGordon | e250 is $210 which seems a bit high |
| 13:59:33 | pondlife | e260 is £75 in the UK |
| 13:59:41 | pondlife | including delivery |
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| 14:00:25 | JdGordon | about the same price |
| 14:00:50 | pondlife | £177 AUD |
| 14:00:54 | pondlife | $ I mean |
| 14:01:13 | JdGordon | 75*3 ~= 210 |
| 14:01:22 | JdGordon | obviously my dollar comparison is a bit off :p |
| 14:01:35 | pondlife | 1 GBP = 2.36 AUD apparently |
| 14:02:05 | JdGordon | it used to be clsoer to 3... |
| 14:02:14 | * | jhMikeS finally gets the stupid idea to make phony plastic SD card to lick the problem of sansas with the stuck GPIO_A bit 7 :\ |
| 14:02:37 | * | JdGordon wonders who you go about making a phony card |
| 14:02:50 | Zagor | how phony? |
| 14:03:17 | jhMikeS | ummm...I should have a piece of plastic as thick as an SD card around here. I'll just shape it like one and plug it in the slot. |
| 14:03:18 | JdGordon | maybe we should have a button check to disable sd access? |
| 14:03:47 | petur | a setting! a setting! a setting! :p |
| 14:03:54 | jhMikeS | I think rockbox has to behave well under the circumstances. The OF has no trouble with it. |
| 14:04:22 | jhMikeS | of course maybe that divide by zero in fat.c was the reason |
| 14:04:31 | JdGordon | can it be disabled if we get no data from the chip instead of hanging/panicing |
| 14:04:52 | * | JdGordon off to the pub |
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| 14:06:53 | jhMikeS | it shouldn't hang because it _should_ timeout in which case it should panic but it isn't in that case |
| 14:11:23 | * | jhMikeS find a paper gum wrapper suffices |
| 14:12:12 | jhMikeS | it hangs allright |
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| 14:43:07 | * | pondlife laughs at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11366... |
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| 14:50:01 | jhMikeS | elitist gadget hacker :) |
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| 14:52:10 | chrisjs169_ | "<jhMikeS> it shouldn't hang because it _should_ timeout in which case it should panic but it isn't in that case" <- It does time out, but it takes a few hours |
| 14:53:22 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: right. it should whine about it alot sooner than hours. at least I found a simple way to make mine do it though. |
| 14:53:53 | chrisjs169_ | yours is now hanging? |
| 14:54:13 | jhMikeS | I put a piece of gum wrapper in the slot to imitate the stuck switch |
| 14:55:11 | chrisjs169_ | wow |
| 14:55:29 | chrisjs169_ | and you're sure you can fix it after you're done? |
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| 14:57:13 | jhMikeS | I think alot of timeouts in there are too long for the udelay |
| 14:57:54 | jhMikeS | fix what? I just pull the gum wrapper out. :) |
| 14:58:55 | hcs | the fact that you put "gum" in there made it sound like a sticky problem |
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| 15:00:09 | chrisjs169_ | lol |
| 15:01:54 | jhMikeS | just the wrapper...no gum...I chewed that all by myself |
| 15:02:09 | chrisjs169_ | wow =P |
| 15:02:27 | chrisjs169_ | Also, I noticed a bug a few weeks ago that apparently some are still having |
| 15:02:34 | jhMikeS | sitting down of course...don't want any mishaps |
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| 15:03:15 | chrisjs169_ | sometimes it seems like Rockbox doesn't read the battery level properly, saying 0% with a few hundred thousand hours of run time left |
| 15:05:00 | jhMikeS | yes, battery life has improved somewhat |
| 15:07:14 | chrisjs169_ | yes, but it's reading something completely inaccurate (eg. OF says battery is 75% full, Rockbox says it's 0% with 325204 hours and 52 minutes of run time left) |
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| 15:08:03 | chrisjs169_ | which, according to two people on ABi, has caused Divide by 0 errors |
| 15:08:31 | bordy | heyo folks. If I were to put rockbox on my 6th gen 30 gig ipod and it didnt work out, could I reset it to the default? |
| 15:11:05 | bordy | oh nm, I found the answer |
| 15:11:07 | bordy | sorry to bother ya |
| 15:12:00 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169_: I haven't seen it myself. I'm just guessing but could be a problem reading the ADC. Perhaps the time would also show incorrectly. |
| 15:13:08 | chrisjs169_ | jhMikeS: I'm not sure about the time, but I don't know of any way to reproduce the error |
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| 15:17:58 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: the sh test you did.. it was the player right? is tagcache enabled for it? |
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| 15:19:19 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it seems so |
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| 15:19:54 | JdGordon | ok, then i found where tthe 500bytes comes from.. the tagcache debug menu was only for bmplcd for some reason |
| 15:20:03 | JdGordon | couuld you check on a rec please? |
| 15:20:17 | jhMikeS | sure |
| 15:20:29 | JdGordon | cheers |
| 15:24:25 | Nick_Brackley | has anyone experienced problems using the current database? |
| 15:24:36 | Nick_Brackley | (tagcache) |
| 15:25:57 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: -32 bytes |
| 15:26:02 | JdGordon | great |
| 15:26:04 | JdGordon | thanks |
| 15:31:06 | pondlife | Nick_Brackley: What sort of problems? |
| 15:34:01 | Nick_Brackley | sorry for the lack of clarity. The database will initialize and on restart it only gets to 1 out of 8 on commiting it. Going to the database menu asks to initialize agian. The target is an iriver h300 using current svn 13852 |
| 15:35:16 | pondlife | Hmm, maybe delete *.tcd from your H300 and and do a CHKDSK /F ? |
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| 15:35:58 | pondlife | I've not updated my build today (yet), but I initialised 2 days ago, and I don't see any relevant mods. |
| 15:36:34 | Nick_Brackley | have done both several times, the bug has been in svn for at least a few days as i have had this problem using the latest build for the last couple of days |
| 15:36:55 | Nick_Brackley | which player do you have? |
| 15:36:58 | pondlife | H340 |
| 15:37:30 | pondlife | So you can't even start up Rockbox now? |
| 15:37:56 | Nick_Brackley | i can use rockbox with no issues, i just cannot use the database |
| 15:38:29 | pondlife | So when you restart it displays step 1 of 8, then goes through to the menu without steps 2-8, right? |
| 15:38:46 | Nick_Brackley | correct |
| 15:39:23 | pondlife | What do you see if you go into System > Debug > View database info ? |
| 15:40:29 | * | JdGordon suggsest updating to the very latest build to make that screen look nicer |
| 15:40:52 | pondlife | Ah, I might have to, to understand Nick's report :) |
| 15:41:24 | Nick_Brackley | Initialized: Yes, DB Ready: No, RAM Cache: No, RAM: 0/0 B, Progress: 0% (0 entries), Commit step: 0, Commit delayed: No |
| 15:41:42 | pondlife | Mine (old format) says Yes-Yes-Yes-1057752/1090904-0% (0)-0-No |
| 15:42:03 | pondlife | OK so I have mine in RAM, you don't. |
| 15:42:18 | pondlife | Maybe configure yours to be in RAM? |
| 15:42:20 | Nick_Brackley | i have it set to use ram |
| 15:42:37 | Nick_Brackley | i have tried both, to no avail |
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| 15:43:17 | pondlife | I have "Load to RAM: Yes" and "Auto Update: No" |
| 15:43:35 | Nick_Brackley | i have tried with those settings and it still failed |
| 15:43:59 | pondlife | Have you got much free space left on your HD? |
| 15:44:53 | Nick_Brackley | 4.25GB free |
| 15:45:10 | pondlife | Loads... |
| 15:45:18 | pondlife | I've got 3MB free! |
| 15:45:34 | Nick_Brackley | all music? |
| 15:45:42 | pondlife | What happens if you go into the Initialise now option, then back into the Debug screen? |
| 15:45:53 | pondlife | Does it count up, or just sit there at 0/0 ? |
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| 15:46:04 | Nick_Brackley | it counts |
| 15:46:22 | Nick_Brackley | although if i try it after i reboot it sits at 0/0 |
| 15:46:30 | hcs | has there been any big change in codecs lately? my gbs test isn't working anymore (not even hitting metadata.c) |
| 15:46:35 | pondlife | OK, and at the end, does it say Commit delayed: Yes, or does it count through commit steps then |
| 15:46:51 | pondlife | Ah - have you enabled dircache too? |
| 15:47:03 | Nick_Brackley | unless i delete the .tcd files |
| 15:47:23 | Nick_Brackley | it says commit delayed: yes |
| 15:47:35 | Nick_Brackley | i have dircache enabled |
| 15:48:07 | pondlife | I'll update to the current build and give it a go. Perhaps you could pop a report on Flyspray and attach your config.cfg? |
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| 15:49:20 | Nick_Brackley | i have already put a report on flyspray, is it possible to edit and attach config.cfg |
| 15:49:38 | pondlife | Just add a new comment and attach there. |
| 15:49:43 | pondlife | What's the number? |
| 15:50:44 | Nick_Brackley | 7424 |
| 15:54:31 | Nick_Brackley | ok i added the file |
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| 15:55:51 | Nick_Brackley | i recently backed up my pc to my player, is it possible that all these new files/file types have contributed to this, i am willing to remove them for debuging purposes |
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| 16:01:21 | pondlife | Nick_Brackley: Might be easier to do a downgrade to the oldest daily build and see if that helps. |
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| 16:01:55 | pondlife | Will try your config and do a re-init now. |
| 16:02:08 | Nick_Brackley_1 | ok |
| 16:05:17 | pondlife | Nice background colour by the way... :) |
| 16:06:11 | Nick_Brackley_1 | lol keeping it simple |
| 16:06:48 | pondlife | OK, I deleted my own *.tcd, then loaded your config, shut down and restarted clean. Now I've gone into Database and it's counting up. On about 4000/20000 at the moment. |
| 16:07:15 | Nick_Brackley_1 | ok |
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| 16:09:58 | pondlife | Right, commiting database |
| 16:10:05 | hcs | aha, it's a bug with the id3.c entry for WMA |
| 16:10:07 | pondlife | 2/8 |
| 16:10:17 | pondlife | 7/8 |
| 16:10:39 | hcs | needs a double null terminator |
| 16:10:45 | hcs | should I go ahead and fix that? |
| 16:10:55 | pondlife | Yes |
| 16:11:15 | hcs | 'k, we'll see if I remember my password |
| 16:11:15 | pondlife | Nick_Brackley_1: OK, I'm in, no reboot needed |
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| 16:11:40 | Nick_Brackley_1 | so the database works? |
| 16:12:00 | pondlife | Nick_Brackley_1: Yes, fine. I only have MP3s though... |
| 16:12:05 | pondlife | What formats do you use? |
| 16:12:56 | pondlife | (I'll try a reboot, and make sure it still works) |
| 16:13:39 | Nick_Brackley_1 | all mp3's although as i recently backed up there is mp4 video, wmv, wma, avi, ogg on the player |
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| 16:14:05 | pondlife | I wonder if the problem that hcs just found is also causing this? |
| 16:14:21 | Nick_Brackley_1 | what was his problem? |
| 16:14:21 | DerPapst | i have no porblems on my ipod |
| 16:14:29 | DerPapst | including the gbs patch |
| 16:14:32 | pondlife | WMA id3 parsing is slightly wrong |
| 16:14:39 | Nick_Brackley_1 | ok |
| 16:14:56 | DerPapst | boo bad it isn't realtime yet :P |
| 16:15:23 | Nick_Brackley_1 | is it possible to play .wma in rockbox yet? i noticed the codec files.... |
| 16:15:30 | DerPapst | s/boo/too |
| 16:15:35 | DerPapst | yes |
| 16:15:58 | Nick_Brackley_1 | i have tried on various wma with todays svn and all recieve an error |
| 16:15:59 | DerPapst | i even have some on my iPod... |
| 16:16:01 | * | DerPapst hides |
| 16:16:15 | pondlife | DerPapst: Are you sure? I've heard 128k files are up to about 120% realtime on CF now.. |
| 16:16:27 | * | pondlife goes looking for one |
| 16:16:49 | DerPapst | sure about what? that rockbox plays wma? |
| 16:17:12 | DerPapst | yes i'm pretty sure about that ;) |
| 16:17:17 | Nick_Brackley_1 | yes, it just skips to the next file, and if i view the playlist it has (err) infront of the file |
| 16:18:08 | DerPapst | works fine on the sim here too... odd. |
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| 16:19:54 | Nick_Brackley_1 | i have been trying to play them for a couple of days and all have returned the same error |
| 16:19:58 | hcs | ok, it's up, I fear there will be a +1 byte cost, though... |
| 16:20:15 | pondlife | DerPapst: You said it was a pity it wasn't realtime yet.. |
| 16:20:22 | pondlife | ... but it is (allegedly). |
| 16:20:29 | * | DerPapst was talking about gbs :D |
| 16:20:37 | pondlife | Ah, sorry! |
| 16:20:45 | DerPapst | np ;) |
| 16:21:04 | hcs | DerPapst: if you didn't put the gbs entry after the wma one you won't notice the issue |
| 16:21:31 | PaulJam | is a dev who uses the random folder feature here? |
| 16:22:27 | DerPapst | had to manually patch id3.c and and one .h file (don't remember) and i also don't remember the order of the entries ;) |
| 16:23:06 | hcs | DerPapst: yeah, the patch had gone out of sync, so your decision there would have affected the outcome |
| 16:24:04 | DerPapst | heh.. lucky me :P |
| 16:24:46 | DerPapst | i'm pretty sure i put the gbs entry before the wma one ;) |
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| 16:29:23 | hcs | hm, guess it cost a few more due to alignment... odd that the ondio went down, though |
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| 16:30:26 | hcs | just noise, I guess. ah well, time to run to work (this took longer than "apply the patch" which I had planned on...) |
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| 16:32:09 | toed | is there a way to go below the minimum volume? if I go below -57db on my ipod the sound cuts out, but it's still too loud at -57 :/ |
| 16:32:51 | markun | toed: it's possible in software |
| 16:32:56 | markun | one moment |
| 16:33:34 | markun | toed: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch6.html#x9-1000006.8 |
| 16:33:50 | markun | you could enable the equalizer and then set the 'precut' |
| 16:34:33 | toed | I'll give that a try |
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| 16:35:58 | toed | that did the trick, thanks |
| 16:36:05 | markun | no problem |
| 16:36:21 | markun | but enabling the software EQ will reduce the runtime a bit |
| 16:36:21 | dionoea | on mine sound is still clearly audible at -58db (the minimum which makes it show a mute icon) |
| 16:37:01 | dionoea | ah, seems to be due to a positive treble setting |
| 16:37:32 | toed | what do you mean by runtime? |
| 16:39:06 | markun | toed: the time you can play music before you have to recharge |
| 16:40:06 | toed | ah |
| 16:40:34 | PaulJam | markun: do you really think there is a noticeable change in runtime if you only change the precut? |
| 16:41:21 | markun | PaulJam: well, it's and extra multiply for every sample, but I don't know for sure if it's noticeable |
| 16:41:32 | markun | s/and/an/ |
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| 16:44:16 | PaulJam | btw, that reminds me of something i wanted to ask: wouldnt it make more sense if the pregain setting for replaygain would only affet files that do NOT have replaygain tags? |
| 16:48:04 | GodEater_ | is it too early to start a countdown to devconpub ? ;) |
| 16:49:59 | low_light | Can someone answer an arm asm question? I'm disassembling. |
| 16:50:21 | pixelma | pondlife: my few WMAs (all 128kbps) play at slightly over 140% runtime |
| 16:50:30 | pixelma | on M5 |
| 16:52:43 | markun | pixelma: runtime or real-time? |
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| 16:53:18 | pixelma | heh - realtime, of course :/ |
| 16:54:42 | pondlife | Hmm, I made my own WMA and it seems to lock the player... and not play in the sim :/ |
| 16:54:49 | | Part toed |
| 16:55:01 | pondlife | Could I have accidentally DRMed it? |
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| 16:55:24 | * | pondlife hunts for a pin |
| 16:56:01 | Nick_Brackley_1 | that brings back many memories..... |
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| 16:56:21 | pondlife | Yep, first pin I've needed in quite a while |
| 16:56:21 | GodEater_ | hahaha |
| 16:56:26 | GodEater_ | accidentally DRM'd |
| 16:56:29 | GodEater_ | that's a good one |
| 16:56:49 | pondlife | Anyone fancy trying the file? saratoga? linuxstb? |
| 16:57:07 | Nick_Brackley_1 | i will |
| 16:57:18 | Nick_Brackley_1 | if i can get wma to play at all that is |
| 16:57:33 | pondlife | Probably best if a WMA/ASF dev looks at it... |
| 16:57:37 | pondlife | No offence intended :) |
| 16:57:50 | Nick_Brackley_1 | sorry, new here and very eager |
| 16:58:18 | pondlife | Good! |
| 16:58:27 | pondlife | Codec is reported as "Windows Media Audio 9 Professional 128 kbps, 44 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit 1-pass CBR" |
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| 16:58:47 | pondlife | Anyone know what bit of that isn't supported? |
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| 16:59:36 | pondlife | File is at pondlife.homeip.net/images/ITSD128.wma">http://pondlife.homeip.net/images/ITSD128.wma if that helps. |
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| 17:01:38 | PaulJam | isn't wma pro something different from wma? |
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| 17:02:16 | pondlife | PaulJam: No idea, I just did the n00b thing and went with the defaults. |
| 17:02:36 | pondlife | I'll try a WMA amateur encoding instead ;) |
| 17:02:46 | GodEater_ | Does RBUtil handle H1x0 installs ? |
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| 17:04:30 | low_light | can someone help me understand this simple (?) asm block. I don't understand what the first 2 shifts accomplish: http://rafb.net/p/hC2hC388.html |
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| 17:08:17 | Ave | say, is it possible to crack open 1st gen nano and add/replace the memory chips within? I'd assume yes, but where are the limits? |
| 17:09:01 | Ave | assuming you could get the exact chips required in any given size, how much would the hardware support, and how much would rb/apple sw support |
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| 17:15:21 | pondlife | OK, the WMA-non-pro version works on both sim and H340. |
| 17:15:55 | Nick_Brackley | is it possible to get your test file? |
| 17:16:50 | pondlife | The one that doesn't work? |
| 17:16:58 | pondlife | Yes, it's on the llink above |
| 17:17:02 | pondlife | link, eveb |
| 17:17:06 | pondlife | even, even :) |
| 17:17:29 | Nick_Brackley | the one that does work, so far i cant get any wma to play, just want a known working file |
| 17:17:36 | pondlife | OK, hang on a mo |
| 17:18:38 | PaulJam | Nick_Brackley: if you have a standard windows installation, there are maybe some wmas that should work in the "my music" folder. |
| 17:18:53 | pondlife | Or try pondlife.homeip.net/images/ITSD128Good.wma">http://pondlife.homeip.net/images/ITSD128Good.wma - but ignore the "singing". |
| 17:18:56 | Nick_Brackley | only linux sorry |
| 17:19:30 | Nick_Brackley | lol no problem |
| 17:20:01 | midkay | why won't it work. |
| 17:20:04 | midkay | i want to hear the singing! |
| 17:20:04 | pondlife | Rockboxed.wps needs an update for WMA though. |
| 17:20:25 | pondlife | Probably my 128k connection |
| 17:20:28 | Nick_Brackley | ok i will use the default until then |
| 17:20:30 | pondlife | And a 2MB file |
| 17:20:38 | midkay | pondlife: is it your singing voice? |
| 17:20:49 | pondlife | Yes, kind of. |
| 17:21:01 | midkay | seriously, it's YOU? *ecstatic* |
| 17:21:09 | midkay | HTTP 403.9 - Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected |
| 17:21:09 | Nick_Brackley | i cant access the file |
| 17:21:09 | midkay | Internet Information Services |
| 17:21:10 | midkay | haha |
| 17:21:16 | midkay | a mad rush to hear pondlife singing |
| 17:21:26 | pondlife | Yes, I'm only allowing 2 connections |
| 17:21:36 | Nick_Brackley | ok |
| 17:21:36 | pondlife | At 128k you can't be too fussy. |
| 17:21:48 | pondlife | Nick_Brackley: Did you get a copy? |
| 17:21:58 | Nick_Brackley | nope |
| 17:22:25 | pondlife | Suppose I could pop it on your FS report, but that's getting a bit egomaniacal. |
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| 17:22:54 | midkay | pondlife: is not! everyone wants to hear this. |
| 17:22:56 | Nick_Brackley | lol u know u want to..... |
| 17:23:02 | midkay | if you put it up on the FS, we could link it in the topic even! |
| 17:23:22 | midkay | in fact, it's going in the topic as soon as i manage to get a copy of it. i'll put it on my own webspace if necessary. :D |
| 17:23:33 | pondlife | No... I can't justify the waste of Rockbox expensive bandwidth... |
| 17:23:44 | midkay | haha. |
| 17:23:44 | pondlife | midkay: Please no |
| 17:23:50 | midkay | just kidding. :) |
| 17:23:52 | Nick_Brackley | fair enough i suppose |
| 17:24:02 | * | pondlife sweats profusely |
| 17:24:03 | midkay | i'd like to hear it though! |
| 17:24:06 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 17:24:25 | midkay | would it drive you crazy if it were in the topic? like, would you be insanely upset? ... ;) |
| 17:24:32 | pondlife | Yes |
| 17:24:45 | * | GodEater_ completes updating all his DAPs to the latest version of rockbox. Very important he feels for any sort of credibility at tonight's gathering. |
| 17:24:46 | pondlife | Especially as I won't be around for the next 2 days to enjoy the attention |
| 17:24:54 | midkay | haha. |
| 17:24:59 | dionoea | maybe it won't be enjoyable :) |
| 17:25:02 | PaulJam | why only the topic? maybe it could be used as backgroundmusic for the main page. |
| 17:25:03 | Nick_Brackley | lol |
| 17:25:03 | midkay | i'd promise to save it all into one neat little text file for when you return..! |
| 17:25:10 | midkay | PaulJam: hahaha. |
| 17:25:11 | pondlife | dionoea: It will still be logged :( |
| 17:25:19 | dionoea | hehe |
| 17:25:57 | pondlife | Ah, midkay - try again downloading.. I was also sending a big e-mail |
| 17:26:12 | * | GodEater_ will mirror too ;) |
| 17:26:45 | midkay | GodEater_: excellent, and we can use the build system's script as a template to distribute the network load across our own servers.. we'll be all set for when it hits slashdot! |
| 17:27:36 | pondlife | Back on topic, should the WPS codec (%fc) enum work in the same order as the audio_formats table in id3.c ? |
| 17:27:49 | midkay | pondlife: still no go :\ |
| 17:28:09 | Nick_Brackley | pondlife: fixed the database trouble i was experiencing before, it was due to the pc backup files as i suspected. after i deleted them and reint'd all worked perfectly. This may be worth a look at..... will try to trouble shoot that file that was causing the problem |
| 17:28:19 | pondlife | Great |
| 17:29:02 | Nick_Brackley | may take a while though, was 20Gb in that dir.... |
| 17:29:25 | GodEater_ | midkay: just bittorrent it ;) |
| 17:29:25 | pondlife | Big ol' binary search.. |
| 17:29:30 | pixelma | pondlife: the %fc tag already works and I believe it was already adapted to have wma in it at least the CustomWPS wiki says so |
| 17:29:44 | pondlife | Yes, but the WPSs need updating |
| 17:29:55 | midkay | GodEater_: haha. |
| 17:30:16 | pondlife | Would be better to use a tag that provides the codec name as a string, maybe. |
| 17:30:21 | pixelma | pondlife: the rockboxed one needs to because it uses its own text in the enum just to have it spelled lowercase |
| 17:30:52 | pixelma | a plain %fc (without enumeration part)does that |
| 17:31:30 | pondlife | Hmm, better to allow a bit of uppercase than need updating for new codecs, maybe? |
| 17:31:41 | pixelma | the codec is spelled uppercase then |
| 17:31:55 | pondlife | The codec table has them in lowercase. |
| 17:32:52 | pixelma | I use %fc in my own wps and it reads "WMA" |
| 17:32:59 | pondlife | And id3_get_codec doesn't uppercase it... |
| 17:33:07 | pondlife | Wonder where that happens then |
| 17:33:34 | pixelma | maybe in the wps parser and related |
| 17:33:47 | pondlife | Th only difference ought to be "???" vs "unknown" |
| 17:34:24 | pondlife | And I would prefer "(unknown)" myself |
| 17:34:48 | pixelma | but ??? is more international... :) |
| 17:34:54 | pondlife | Good point! |
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| 17:36:34 | saratoga | pondlife: I like broken wma files |
| 17:36:43 | pondlife | Shall I mail it to you? |
| 17:37:00 | pondlife | My local IIS is under attack ;) |
| 17:37:13 | Nick_Brackley | lol |
| 17:37:16 | saratoga | though WMA pro isn't supported |
| 17:37:21 | saratoga | since its closer to AAC then WMA |
| 17:37:53 | chrisjs169|bbl | what's the chance of the Sansa Express being supported by Rockbox? |
| 17:38:09 | markun | chrisjs169|bbl: about 24.3% |
| 17:38:25 | saratoga | chrisjs169|bbl: what hardware is it based on? |
| 17:38:59 | Nick_Brackley | pondlife: if possible could i get a mailed copy of the working wma? |
| 17:39:02 | pixelma | pondlife: I wouldn't mind if the rockboxed WPSs would use "%fc" only - would be more flexible. But I don't know what the original author would want... |
| 17:39:16 | saratoga | Nick_Brackley: which wma is this? |
| 17:39:20 | saratoga | what did I miss? |
| 17:39:33 | markun | Nick_Brackley: why do you care about wma so much if you use linux and have no way of encoding them anyway? |
| 17:39:34 | chrisjs169|bbl | saratoga: I'm not sure - I have a copy of the firmware the SE uses if that'd help |
| 17:40:08 | saratoga | chrisjs169|bbl: hard to say what the odds of a port are if we don't know what the hardware is |
| 17:40:28 | Nick_Brackley | friends have wma and we swap music and such |
| 17:40:33 | markun | chrisjs169|bbl: do you have one to open up? |
| 17:40:46 | saratoga | i think ABI already did a teardown |
| 17:41:05 | pondlife | saratoga: I tried encoding my first WMA, read the logs about 4pm |
| 17:41:07 | chrisjs169|bbl | markun: yeah, IIRC ABI has pics of one opened up |
| 17:41:17 | saratoga | pondlife: what settings? |
| 17:41:32 | markun | Nick_Brackley: I think this one should work: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984?getfile=14224 |
| 17:41:34 | pondlife | WMA Pro CBR 128k |
| 17:41:40 | markun | (from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984) |
| 17:41:57 | pondlife | The "Pro" bit seems to be the killer, is that a DRM thing? |
| 17:42:12 | pondlife | I wouldn't mind, but it locks up my H340 when I play it. |
| 17:42:12 | Nick_Brackley | markun: thankyou |
| 17:42:18 | saratoga | no Pro is a completely different codec |
| 17:42:34 | saratoga | no relation to the standard codec most people call "WMA" |
| 17:42:49 | pondlife | OK, so we should just fail to play, but not lockup or die attempting. |
| 17:43:18 | saratoga | pondlife: whats the correct way to abort decoding from inside a plugin? |
| 17:43:25 | saratoga | just return -1 ? |
| 17:43:31 | pondlife | Not sure, sorry. |
| 17:43:47 | pondlife | Search for "codec failure" and work backwards? |
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| 17:44:04 | saratoga | i can just check the codec id field during init |
| 17:44:13 | saratoga | just not sure what to do if i find out its a PRo file |
| 17:44:16 | saratoga | will look into it |
| 17:45:24 | markun | Nick_Brackley: does it work? |
| 17:46:12 | Nick_Brackley | markun: yes thankyou |
| 17:46:44 | Nick_Brackley | mine will lockup if it has a wma as the only filetype in a playlist, if there is an mp3 in the list it seems to skip to the mp3s, not sure if this is true for wma pro though |
| 17:47:22 | saratoga | well WMA Pro is detected as WMAv2 right now, so it should always lock up unless linuxstb has done some of my work for me |
| 17:47:42 | saratoga | fortunately no one uses WMA Pro, so hopefully not too many people noticed |
| 17:47:49 | * | pondlife did :p |
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| 17:48:43 | markun | chrisjs169|bbl: I can't find the article on abi |
| 17:50:51 | saratoga | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2007/05/sandisk-sansa-connect-dissasembly.php |
| 17:51:43 | saratoga | can't see much, but they mention that its a TI chip |
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| 17:54:10 | chrisjs169|bbl | saratoga: that's for the connect, not the SE |
| 17:54:35 | chrisjs169|bbl | i wasn't really planning on starting a port, just asking since people over at ABI are wondering |
| 17:54:55 | * | chrisjs169|bbl will give them a link to the NewPort wiki article |
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| 17:58:58 | petur | funny that that antenna shape in the case is fake... |
| 17:59:32 | aliask | Damn annoying if you ask me... |
| 17:59:52 | jhMikeS | GodEater_: Saw the asm fragment. It appears to me to divide a signed value by 8 while rounding towards 0. (Did I get it? :) |
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| 18:11:26 | jhMikeS | low_light: excuse me, God_Eater_ posted right before you and I messed up :p |
| 18:12:03 | amiconn | saratoga: Speaking about wma - is there any chance to support wma lossless as well? |
| 18:12:34 | dionoea | that's not documentated AFAIK |
| 18:13:12 | amiconn | Just asking out of curiosity |
| 18:13:46 | dionoea | well unless he reverse engineers it i doubt that it's possible (I'm might be wrong) |
| 18:13:54 | dionoea | ffmpeg doesn't handle it |
| 18:14:23 | dionoea | s/'m// |
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| 18:19:36 | low_light | jhMikeS: thanks |
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| 18:32:49 | pondlife | minor splittage indeed |
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| 18:34:15 | illmatix | oh yeah! |
| 18:34:25 | illmatix | whos got a iriver h10 |
| 18:34:42 | * | Arathis has |
| 18:34:57 | illmatix | did you use rockbox on it? |
| 18:35:18 | illmatix | I had it on my h10 in feb and i would have problems with it randomly increasing in volumn and heating up. |
| 18:36:04 | Arathis | tried using a current build and bootloader? |
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| 18:38:11 | illmatix | i haven't updated since feb because of that problem and the sketchy scroller |
| 18:39:55 | pondlife | GodEater: I'm not going to make it to DevConPub, but hopefully there will be another one soon enough. Enjoy a pint for me..! |
| 18:40:07 | pondlife | (For me, not on me. ;p) |
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| 18:41:01 | knix_ | Hello all. slight problem. I formatted my ipod with windows and now I can restore it to original. Is there a way just to install rockbox on there without apple crap? |
| 18:41:12 | saratoga | i looked briefly into wma lossless, but couldn't find anything |
| 18:41:37 | saratoga | i would liked to have supported it, but I don't think its possible, at least until someone comes up with a codec or specification |
| 18:41:57 | knix_ | cant* |
| 18:42:40 | saratoga | knix_: I don't think you need the apple software installed to put rockbox on |
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| 18:43:12 | knix_ | Ok. well i have a fresh ipod video with nothing on it. How do I get rockbox on there? |
| 18:43:14 | saratoga | unless you messed with the partitions, the ipodpatcher should work |
| 18:43:20 | saratoga | at least thats my understanding |
| 18:43:28 | saratoga | follow the instructions int he manual |
| 18:43:30 | knix_ | ipodcatcher doesnt see it anymore. But windows does |
| 18:43:59 | saratoga | then you probably messed with the paritions or whatever ipod patcher uses to detect it |
| 18:44:18 | saratoga | you could probably just follow the mac install instructions that show how to reformat the ipod as fat32 |
| 18:44:23 | knix_ | I know. i formatted it |
| 18:44:24 | saratoga | or else restore it with itunes |
| 18:44:46 | knix_ | ya. my work is blocking itunes url and all |
| 18:44:57 | knix_ | Ill have to do it later. Thanks |
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| 18:59:17 | saratoga | pondlife: I put in a check for WMA Pro. If youg et a chance, try that file and see if it still crashes |
| 18:59:30 | pondlife | Will do |
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| 19:01:13 | PaulJam | hmm, "Build should have been done 116m 50s ago"? |
| 19:01:46 | Bagder | local clock not set? |
| 19:02:02 | Bagder | it looks fine for me |
| 19:02:11 | saratoga | i love that counter |
| 19:02:23 | saratoga | gives me something to do whiel I wait to see if I broke coldfire builds |
| 19:02:24 | Bagder | all the glory to dionoea for that one |
| 19:02:39 | PaulJam | oh, propably because i use the wrong timezone (otherwie i have problems with the coexistene of linux and windows) |
| 19:02:43 | Bagder | and I like it a lot as well |
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| 19:03:08 | Bagder | PaulJam: that's probably it then |
| 19:03:42 | pondlife | saratoga: Coldfire still compiles ok I think... |
| 19:04:48 | saratoga | ok done |
| 19:05:46 | amiconn | Bagder: The build counter + refresh sometimes causes an odd effect: |
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| 19:06:35 | amiconn | If the build is overdue, the script refreshes every ~10 seconds. Most of the time it doesn't refresh the table header images, as expect |
| 19:06:54 | dionoea | Bagder: do HTTP headers mention the date on the server? (If yes i could try using that to correct clock offsets in the js code) |
| 19:07:05 | amiconn | But sometimes it does, as if the server doesn't send the proper expires: header |
| 19:08:04 | amiconn | If that happens, even a manual refresh doesn't help. |
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| 19:09:24 | * | DerPapst has the same problem as amiconn. |
| 19:09:50 | Bagder | the images shouldn't reload |
| 19:09:58 | Bagder | since they should be cached by the browser |
| 19:10:04 | amiconn | yes |
| 19:10:14 | amiconn | But *sometimes* they do |
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| 19:11:17 | * | amiconn wonders what's up with the build |
| 19:11:39 | Bagder | I don't see how the js nor the images are to blame for that sometimes |
| 19:12:01 | Bagder | I'll run some livehttpheaders later on and see |
| 19:12:11 | amiconn | I wonder whether it's the server, or the browser |
| 19:12:14 | DerPapst | the images relaoded for me too. |
| 19:12:20 | amiconn | Could also be a ff bug |
| 19:12:33 | amiconn | Doesn't happen atm, but did happen yesterday |
| 19:12:38 | * | DerPapst is on ff as well |
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| 19:12:55 | Bagder | possibly that's caused by the particular js function call used |
| 19:13:02 | DerPapst | it happend twice today. on different pcs |
| 19:13:04 | Bagder | window.location.reload() |
| 19:13:14 | DerPapst | with an 1.5.x version of ff |
| 19:13:20 | amiconn | 2.0.0.4 here |
| 19:14:42 | pondlife | saratoga: Yes, the WMA Pro file now gives the expected codec failure |
| 19:14:44 | pondlife | Thanks |
| 19:15:20 | dionoea | Bagder: is it passing true as agrument to reload() ? |
| 19:15:45 | Bagder | yes |
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| 19:51:31 | knix_ | alright. Im having one hell of a time install rockbox on the vid ipod. I follow directions and it still doesnt work |
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| 19:52:26 | knix_ | does the ipod need to be in disk mode when creating the boot loader and transferring .rockbox over? |
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| 20:06:43 | saratoga | knix_: yes, disk mode is the only way you can use USB with the ipod |
| 20:06:49 | saratoga | when its not in disk mode the USB port is powered down |
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| 20:35:23 | knix_ | Ok, i got it installed. Now, how do I turn it off. Holding play doesnt do it. |
| 20:36:36 | knix_ | Please, anyone? |
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| 20:37:13 | saratoga | have you checked the manual? |
| 20:37:16 | saratoga | its probably in there |
| 20:37:20 | saratoga | i think all the button stuff is |
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| 20:41:28 | knix_ | yes i checked the manual. But it's not working for me |
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| 20:41:59 | saratoga | what did the manual say? |
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| 20:43:50 | knix_ | press and hold the play button. I held it for a minute straight |
| 20:44:58 | saratoga | make sure hold is really off? |
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| 20:45:25 | knix_ | yup, I dont even mess with hold |
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| 20:48:36 | knix_ | Im not really sure what to do |
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| 20:53:55 | pixelma | you can force a reboot with menu+select but holding play should work |
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| 20:54:21 | belze_ | hey, did anyone yet try to replace the irivers hdd with a ssd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_state_drive) ? |
| 20:54:32 | belze_ | would make it a georgeous player |
| 20:54:39 | petur | not that I know |
| 20:54:47 | belze_ | finally you can go jogging without having to worry about the hdd |
| 20:54:48 | petur | also $$$ |
| 20:55:14 | belze_ | true |
| 20:55:23 | petur | but the interface is standard so it should work |
| 20:55:36 | belze_ | yeah, i think so, too |
| 20:55:44 | belze_ | power consumption should be even lower |
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| 21:07:59 | belze_ | hmm, and what about using a cf-card with an adapter? |
| 21:08:13 | belze_ | way cheaper and also does the trick |
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| 21:13:08 | petur | way smaller... |
| 21:14:53 | belze_ | yeah |
| 21:14:58 | belze_ | should be worth a try |
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| 21:49:23 | amiconn | dan_a: How's performace on G3 now? |
| 21:50:33 | dan_a | amiconn: It seems good - the main difference I noticed was that WMA played without skipping. It also carried on playing (MP3s) until the battery ran out without hanging |
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| 21:52:38 | dan_a | Well done on finding out how to run the clock at full speed :D |
| 21:52:43 | amiconn | I will do some more research, and the clean up that code, replacing the ipl leftovers with proper register macros |
| 21:52:55 | amiconn | I will also go for 80MHz in that cleanup |
| 21:53:16 | amiconn | Maybe some more PP5002 tests are required during the research |
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| 21:53:43 | dan_a | I'll happily do them |
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| 21:55:35 | amiconn | How is battery life on G3, btw? Also in comparison to OF - if you ever tested that |
| 21:56:41 | dan_a | I've never tested either - I don't use it for more than about 1 hour without pluigging it in to a power supply |
| 21:57:10 | dan_a | (apart from today when I left it running in my car by accident) |
| 21:57:50 | dan_a | I'll do a proper test one evening |
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| 21:57:56 | Quelsaruk | hej |
| 21:58:03 | amiconn | You could even try 90MHz now |
| 21:58:52 | amiconn | 90MHz might cause too much heat when running at that speed continuously |
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| 22:00:07 | dan_a | But with scaling on it should be OK, no? |
| 22:01:04 | amiconn | I think so, unless you're trying a codec which can't cope (e.g. ape at higher compression levels) |
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| 22:02:40 | wrecked_ipod | is anyone here? |
| 22:03:10 | dan_a | wrecked_ipod: Some people are, yes |
| 22:03:26 | dan_a | How can we help? |
| 22:03:31 | amiconn | If 90MHz cause too much heat, the only way to use 90MHz boosted speed would be to track average cpu speed, and limit the time it is running at full speed |
| 22:03:51 | amiconn | (some kind of "blind" thermal throttling) |
| 22:04:44 | dan_a | That would put more work into the boosting code, which is nice and simple at the moment. |
| 22:05:27 | amiconn | But somehow I expect it to work, given the fact that the PP5002 specs say 90MHz |
| 22:06:24 | amiconn | The ipod might get a bit warm (which also applies e.g. to the mini G1 running at full 75MHz and disk running) and drain the battery quite fast, but it shouldn't crash |
| 22:06:28 | wrecked_ipod | guys im in a shit situation here.. my friends ipod is not playinf any songs through itunes, instead theres an exclamation mark on the left |
| 22:06:29 | dan_a | The OF doesn't run it faster than 75MHz, does it? |
| 22:06:43 | wrecked_ipod | does anyone know if these songs can be recovered? |
| 22:07:26 | amiconn | I'm not sure. The apple loader prepares the PLL for 75MHz, but the clock change routine calculates arbitrary pll settings |
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| 22:09:05 | amiconn | It limits the input parameter to fall between 2 global vars, and the lower limit is 24000 (the parameter is in kHz), but I have no idea what the upper limit is |
| 22:09:05 | dan_a | wrecked_ipod: Possibly, if you can copy the (hidden) Ipod_Control folder onto a computer. That has all the music in it. But talk in here should be relevant to Rockbox |
| 22:09:48 | amiconn | (of course there's a special case for 32kHz) |
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| 22:10:40 | dan_a | Running at 32kHz isn't fun - I've set the clock to that on the Sansa before... |
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| 22:12:54 | amiconn | It's meant for deep sleep, and several things need to be prepared for this to work |
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| 22:13:38 | amiconn | The sdram won't lose its contents but isn't accessible, so the sleep & wakeup code must reside in iram |
| 22:14:22 | amiconn | There are dozens of unknown registers (or unknown bits in registers) involved |
| 22:15:14 | dan_a | That doesn't sound like fun. |
| 22:16:29 | dan_a | Would it be better to change the frequency scaling to use one of the fixed frequency clocks (IIRC, there are 24, 30 and 66MHz clock sources) and the PLL instead of switching between two PLL frequencies? |
| 22:16:33 | pfarmer | hi all, I've got a 1st gen ipod nano at "Data abort at 40001404", how do I shut it down, I've tried holding down the "Play/Pause" butten |
| 22:16:38 | Domonoky_ | the OF probably powers down many things in the chip befor going to deep sleep, so those unkown register / bits could be interessting for power savings. |
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| 22:17:26 | Domonoky_ | pfarmer: hold menü+select |
| 22:17:36 | amiconn | dan_a: There are only two fixed frequencies which are guaranteed to be there - 32kHz and 24MHz |
| 22:18:06 | amiconn | The H10 seems to have 16MHz and 33MHz as well, but the ipods (PP5020+) don't |
| 22:18:18 | pfarmer | Domonoky_: thanks, thats done it :) |
| 22:18:39 | dan_a | amiconn: That will explain why I couldn't make that work on the Sansa, then! |
| 22:18:41 | amiconn | We could use the additional dividers though, leaving the PLL at fixed clock |
| 22:19:06 | amiconn | But that's not really flexible |
| 22:20:13 | dan_a | It would be faster though, wouldn't it? So reduce the cost of boosting/unboosting? And we're not very flexible at the moment |
| 22:21:07 | amiconn | Yes, but other targets (e.g. coldfire) won't have this quick boost/unboost. SO we would have to introduce lots of ifdefing |
| 22:21:55 | amiconn | I will try to do something different though: Keep the normal boost/umboost way, but put the cpu on idle clock while sleeping |
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| 22:23:26 | dan_a | I'd assumed that putting the CPU to sleep made it use the lowest clock |
| 22:24:27 | amiconn | I'm not sure whether PP does this, but I doubt it. The clock source is shared between cores, but you can sleep individual cores |
| 22:25:02 | amiconn | Sleep is probably like the halt instruction on other cpus |
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| 22:25:42 | amiconn | The SH1 also has sleep which lowers power consumption significantly, but it runs from fixed clock... |
| 22:26:29 | dan_a | Have you happened to come across anything which suggests how to run the COP slower than the main core (as I understand is possible)? |
| 22:26:41 | amiconn | You mean clock skipping? |
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| 22:27:03 | dan_a | Yes |
| 22:27:10 | amiconn | Not yet, but it might be that some of the unknown bits in CPU_CTL/COP_CTL have to do with that |
| 22:27:57 | amiconn | We only know _one_ bit of those registers - and there are at least 11 other bits which are used (on PP5020+) |
| 22:28:37 | amiconn | On PP5002 it's similar (at least 8 used bits) |
| 22:28:38 | dan_a | One of those bits seems to be set when changing clock speeds |
| 22:29:08 | amiconn | Not on ipods |
| 22:29:15 | dan_a | No? |
| 22:29:16 | amiconn | (except for 32kHz mode) |
| 22:29:44 | amiconn | The main clock change routine on PP5020+ doesn't touch those registers except for 32kHz mode |
| 22:30:08 | amiconn | Checked ipod mini (G1/G2), ipod color, and ipod video OF |
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| 22:35:28 | saratoga | dan_a: i've been trying to figure out why I cannot get the profile builds to work properly on ARM |
| 22:35:40 | saratoga | have you tried recently? |
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| 22:36:48 | dan_a | saratoga: The only time I ever made a profile build was when someone told me I'd broken them on ARM... |
| 22:37:03 | saratoga | is there anyone i should ask about it? |
| 22:37:09 | saratoga | i used to be able to do them |
| 22:37:18 | saratoga | but at some point this year they stopped working for me |
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| 22:37:57 | dan_a | I don't know who the expert is. They are fairly tightly tied into the scheduler, IIRC. I'll have a look and see what I can find |
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| 22:39:41 | saratoga | dan_a: for what its worth, the build works fine, but I got no output |
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| 22:44:11 | dan_a | saratoga: I can't build a profile build for the G3, but that's a linking problem not code... I'm just having a look at what's changed. Any idea what the last working revision you had was? |
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| 22:45:01 | saratoga | dan_a: unfortunately I last tried it in September |
| 22:45:08 | Infinoid | has anyone here tried to upgrade the harddrive of an iaudio X5? :) |
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| 22:45:33 | belze_ | Infinoid: is it 1,8" or 2,5"? |
| 22:45:41 | Infinoid | its 1.8" |
| 22:46:28 | Infinoid | mine is the 60GB version, it has a Toshiba MK6006GAH inside. (a fact which I wanted to put on the wiki, because it only has the model number for the 20GB version, but it said I should come here and beg for permissions.) |
| 22:46:46 | Infinoid | I'm going to try swapping it out for a 100GB MK1011GAH |
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| 22:47:21 | amiconn | The MK1011GAH won't fit, it has the wrong connector |
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| 22:48:05 | petur | the best you can get is 80GB |
| 22:48:06 | Infinoid | ah :) I had asked Toshiba tech support about that, and was waiting for the answer before I actually ordered one |
| 22:48:26 | petur | MK8007GAH - available on ebay atm |
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| 22:51:06 | petur | Infinoid: re wiki permission, give us your wikiname and we'll give ;) |
| 22:51:30 | Infinoid | MarkGlines, but I have nothing to contribute but my current hard drive model (yet) |
| 22:52:35 | dan_a | saratoga: No idea, I'm afraid |
| 22:53:14 | Infinoid | hmm. "Samsung announces 1.8-inch 120GB disk". but they don't actually have it yet. |
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| 22:53:37 | petur | Infinoid: wiki access has been arranged ;) |
| 22:54:22 | Infinoid | thanks! |
| 22:55:12 | petur | Infinoid: all new drives will probably have a ZIF connector so not compatible... |
| 22:56:04 | Infinoid | thanks for the tip. if its just the connector, maybe I can wire something up |
| 22:56:08 | amiconn | We need adapters... |
| 22:57:00 | amiconn | Infinoid: You can try, but be aware that there's very little room for an adapter, and the ZIF connector has a pin spacing of 1mm, staggered in 2 rows |
| 22:57:03 | petur | Infinoid: there's a link at the bottom for the wiring of an adapter |
| 22:57:24 | petur | (a pdf) |
| 22:58:39 | Infinoid | a link at the bottom of what? |
| 22:58:56 | petur | that wiki page about harddrives... |
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| 22:59:54 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
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| 23:00:13 | Infinoid | ah, thanks. I was trying to find it on the iaudio pages. |
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