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00:30:22 | linuxstb | saratoga: Regarding your WMA commit - the asf parser (apps/metadata/asf.c) should reject the streams, rather than the codec. Although it doesn't seem like it does.... |
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00:39:11 | saratoga | linuxstb: can you actually determine the WMA version number in the parser? |
00:39:23 | saratoga | i assumed the codec had to do that |
00:39:40 | linuxstb | It's the parser that reads the info and passes it to the codec. |
00:40:05 | linuxstb | That info is in the header object, not the data packets that the codec is passed. |
00:41:01 | saratoga | good to know |
00:41:07 | linuxstb | Files without a wmav1 or wmav2 stream should have been rejected - it's a bug in my code that they weren't. |
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00:43:14 | adrift | hey folks, was wondering if you could possibly lend some advice about an issue i'm having with rockbox on my sansa. O |
00:43:33 | adrift | I'm dealing with an issue where the audio seems to crash out on me |
00:44:01 | adrift | basically it produces a loud screeching, like a needle on a record player being pulled hard |
00:44:38 | adrift | i can get out of it by jumping through a few directories or restarting the system, but its happening with some frequency now |
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00:46:16 | adrift | i started a thread on the issue at AnythingbutIpod.com's Rockbox forum, and it seems others are dealing with a similar issue with current builds of rockbox |
00:46:29 | adrift | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17166 |
00:47:11 | linuxstb | Is this a new issue? |
00:47:33 | adrift | it is |
00:47:40 | chrisjs169 | i've noticed something similar on my Sansa a few weeks ago when reloading the config file |
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00:48:10 | chrisjs169 | it'd basically go to either a loud static or a loud screeching noise (can't remember atm) |
00:48:11 | adrift | i've noticed it in several builds as well. |
00:48:17 | adrift | yeah |
00:48:28 | adrift | sort of both for me :) |
00:48:35 | Hilikus | hey guys |
00:49:00 | Hilikus | what do you recommend to edit audio? i recorder a show with rockbox and now i want to edit the file |
00:49:18 | Llorean | adrift: One person in the thread said it happens in the official firmware |
00:50:09 | linuxstb | Hilikus: What format is your recording (MP3, WAV, ....) ? |
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00:50:15 | adrift | yeah i noticed that Llorean... I haven't had the issue in the OF. don't know |
00:50:15 | Hilikus | mp3 |
00:50:23 | Hilikus | but i want to uncompress it |
00:50:27 | Llorean | adrift: If it happens in the official firmware, it's a hardware thing. |
00:50:30 | adrift | thought maybe you all had heard something about it |
00:50:32 | adrift | ok |
00:50:40 | Llorean | Nobody's reporded it in our bug tracker. |
00:50:46 | saratoga | bug reports on ABI can be questionable since everyone there is running with various patches |
00:50:50 | adrift | do you have any suggestions? should i reformat? |
00:51:02 | Llorean | Run an official version of Rockbox with an official bootloader |
00:51:13 | Llorean | If it happens see if you can figure out how to reliably reproduce it, or what settings make it more likely |
00:51:38 | saratoga | an easier way to erase your rockbox install is to just delete the .rockbox folder and then uninstall the booloader |
00:51:51 | Hilikus | maybe transcode it to a lossless codec, what are your thoughts on that? im assuming its ok since its to lossless |
00:53:20 | linuxstb | Hilikus: It depends what kinds of edits you want to perform. If you just want to cut/splice it, you can use mp3directcut which won't re-encode. If you want to do more, than just decode to WAV and use any audio editor - audacity is a free (open source) audio editor. |
00:53:37 | Hilikus | audacy, got it |
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00:54:01 | adrift | ok thanks for the advice guys. I really appreciate it. |
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00:57:25 | Llorean | adrift: And of course, after you can reproduce it, a bug report would be welcome rather than discussing it at off-site forums. |
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02:33:29 | chrisjs169 | I can't remember who it was that was asking me if I had pics of the SE earlier, but I found them on ABi |
02:33:34 | chrisjs169 | (http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2007/07/sandisk-sansa-express-disassembled.php#more) |
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02:49:16 | Gret | My iRiver H10 6gb is crashing whenever I go to play music |
02:49:23 | Gret | with the latest build of Rockbox |
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02:50:08 | Gret | it just gave me an error that says 00591B8 and froze 10 seconds into a song |
02:50:22 | Gret | Undefined instruction 00691B8 |
02:50:30 | Gret | can someone help me? |
02:51:28 | saratoga | chrisjs169: looks like a sigmatel chipset, so probably not |
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03:11:06 | chrisjs169 | "<saratoga> chrisjs169: looks like a sigmatel chipset, so probably not" <- so the SE most likely can't be ported? |
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03:28:58 | saratoga | chrisjs169: theres almost no info for those chips |
03:29:16 | saratoga | if that model is based on arm, it might be possible, but would likely be a gigantic effort to get working |
03:29:21 | saratoga | so i'd say the odds are near zero |
03:29:34 | chrisjs169 | ok, will make sure the members at ABI know that |
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04:26:17 | kfazz | was the static that prompted the re-removal of sansa frequency scaling a very noticable thing? |
04:26:30 | kfazz | cuz i re-re-enabled it and i'm not noticing anything |
04:27:32 | saratoga | kfazz: no it wasn't |
04:27:39 | saratoga | i used it for a couple days without ever noticing it |
04:27:49 | saratoga | you had to play a lot of files that didn't boost the CPU to notice it |
04:28:03 | kfazz | k |
04:28:07 | saratoga | a good way to reproduce it is to play a .wav file while scrolling through menus |
04:28:20 | saratoga | but i think it also broke recording too |
04:28:27 | saratoga | so it was a fairly serious problem |
04:28:57 | kfazz | i personally don't use recording, so i think i'll just enjoy the longer battery life |
04:30:10 | kfazz | hmm.. just tried recording and it works |
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04:35:54 | iamben | where is that sansa static problem documented? |
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04:36:10 | saratoga | it works on my sansa, and I think its safe, but theres a good chance it will break something |
04:36:16 | saratoga | i'll look into it in the morning |
04:36:34 | saratoga | on the upside, this brings us 10x closer to being synced to ffmpeg |
04:36:54 | saratoga | and it opens the way for various optimizations and makes fixing that remaining LSP bug easier for me |
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04:46:57 | iamben | nm i got it |
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04:47:35 | iamben | i was about to start whining about strange static when playing flac, but it must have been that scaling issue, got a newer build and its good now |
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04:50:20 | Soap | Llorean, what made you suspect it was a mp4 transcoded to mp3? |
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04:56:29 | Llorean | Soap: Not really here right now, but look at the comment tag. I'm almost certain that's the iTunes identifier. |
04:56:41 | Soap | ahh |
04:56:56 | Soap | just trying to learn from ya, don't doubt you |
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05:07:01 | iamben | so i take is this is more of a dev chan than a user chan? or it just turned out that way? |
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05:07:15 | renesis | how do i do castling in chessbox? |
05:07:20 | renesis | the computer can do it |
05:07:25 | renesis | its frustrating |
05:08:15 | kfazz | anyone managed to get sansa cpu freq to something besides 24,30,or 75? |
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05:08:37 | kfazz | i'm looking at system-pp502x.c |
05:16:17 | saratoga | kfazz: search the logs, amiconn has been talking about that for the last week |
05:17:30 | kfazz | k |
05:17:33 | kfazz | thanks |
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05:36:45 | JdGordon | scorche: you round? |
05:36:52 | * | scorche nods |
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05:37:09 | JdGordon | can you check the delta on a patch for me for the ondio please? |
05:37:36 | scorche | perhaps...just a sec while i put away dinner |
05:37:48 | JdGordon | http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/debug_lists.diff |
05:37:54 | JdGordon | mmmm... dinner *drools* |
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05:38:02 | * | JdGordon should do something about lunch |
05:41:59 | scorche | actually, i dont even know if my vmware image will compile...i have been messed around with it a lot when i was trying to put out a new version |
05:42:03 | scorche | lets test =) |
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05:58:13 | scorche | JdGordon: which ondio? |
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06:01:34 | * | scorche just goes ahead and tests for ondio FM |
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06:06:51 | JdGordon | scorche: soz, you made me hungry... yeah either ondio is good |
06:07:50 | webguest18 | has the rockbox battery life on ipods improved at all lately? |
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06:09:12 | scorche | linux and windows have such differing opinions on file size... |
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06:13:15 | JdGordon | grr.. /me gtg |
06:13:34 | scorche | 1 more min and i will have teh delta for you |
06:14:54 | scorche | om...it grew 2 bytes...can that be right? |
06:15:30 | scorche | JdGordon: |
06:15:39 | JdGordon | 2 bytes? |
06:15:57 | JdGordon | im happy with that.. although thats gotta be wrong :D |
06:16:24 | scorche | let me compile once more... |
06:16:42 | scorche | well, if you need to go... |
06:16:45 | JdGordon | dont wory, ill prob comit it anyway |
06:17:03 | scorche | alright...sorry =/ |
06:17:22 | JdGordon | no worries |
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06:17:39 | scorche | oh!...i was totally looking at the worng thing...i have too many things in my head =/ |
06:17:53 | JdGordon | :) |
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06:18:22 | JdGordon | really heading off this time.. back in 40min or so |
06:18:31 | * | scorche would rather not reveal what he was looking at instead of size... |
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06:19:59 | * | scorche shrugs it off and goes back to work on the theme repository |
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06:36:28 | fuuuuuu | my ipod crashed and I cant reset it |
06:37:49 | scorche | turn the hold switch on and then off again, then hold menu + select for 30 seconds |
06:39:35 | fuuuuuu | i´ve just instaled and it says "data abort at..." |
06:40:12 | scorche | it will reset if you do it right... |
06:40:23 | fuuuuuu | wow |
06:40:33 | fuuuuuu | ok, now I was able to reset |
06:40:45 | fuuuuuu | thanks |
06:40:46 | scorche | are you using the latest build? |
06:41:09 | fuuuuuu | current |
06:41:19 | scorche | and the latest bootloader? |
06:43:42 | fuuuuuu | ipodpatcher 1.0 with 1.1 bootloaders |
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06:47:45 | scorche | when did you last update it? |
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06:51:35 | advcomp2019 | has someone opened an e200r series to see if it is running the same stuff as the plain e200... is that why they cant rockbox the r series |
06:52:34 | scorche | advcomp2019: you can read what is holding the R port up in the forum thread about it |
06:54:19 | advcomp2019 | i know but could those issues be cause by different hardware tho |
06:54:54 | advcomp2019 | inside |
06:55:09 | scorche | it doesnt have anything to do with different hardware |
06:55:42 | advcomp2019 | o ok i was just wondering |
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07:49:58 | Transience | is anyone in here involved with the Creative Zen Vision M port? |
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07:52:23 | webguest13 | can someone show me how to install or what program to download for the newest ipod 30gig |
07:52:38 | alienbiker99 | its all on the wiki page |
07:53:15 | scorche | s/wiki page/manual |
07:54:41 | webguest13 | whats teh url |
07:54:53 | scorche | webguest13: www.rockbox.org |
07:55:08 | scorche | the search for the link that says "manual" |
07:56:37 | ptw419 | where are the fonts defined? |
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08:00:09 | GRaTT | I just did a format and fresh install of RB on my sansa and keep getting an undefined instruction 01000010 |
08:00:22 | GRaTT | any help would be appreciated |
08:00:43 | ptw419 | or better yet what file has the font defines? |
08:03:03 | TiMiD[FD] | ptw419: what do you mean ? |
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08:03:33 | ptw419 | Llorean told me last night that the fonts were numbered |
08:03:51 | ptw419 | where can I find out which font is represented by which number |
08:04:11 | amiconn | There are only 2 numbers |
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08:04:28 | amiconn | 0 is FONT_SYSFIXED, 1 is FONT_UI |
08:04:47 | ptw419 | ok, then I'm misunderstanding this :\ |
08:04:55 | amiconn | firmware/export/font.h |
08:05:11 | TiMiD[FD] | ah that |
08:05:27 | amiconn | FONT_SYSFIXED is built in, FONT_UI is what the user selects |
08:05:40 | TiMiD[FD] | what do you wanna do exactly ? |
08:05:53 | ptw419 | so I would do font_init(FONT_UI) |
08:06:06 | ptw419 | but from there how would I select the font i want to use? |
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08:06:53 | amiconn | No, you won't. font_init() is called at boot and never needs to be called again |
08:06:55 | TiMiD[FD] | lcd_setfont(FONT_UI) |
08:07:15 | TiMiD[FD] | will set the font to the system font |
08:07:18 | ptw419 | ok, I recounted the wrong function heh |
08:07:32 | ptw419 | but say I wanted to set it to Nimbus19 |
08:07:40 | TiMiD[FD] | you want to load the font from disk ? |
08:08:14 | ptw419 | loaded from memory |
08:08:21 | ptw419 | from the bootloader |
08:09:29 | TiMiD[FD] | so you want to replace the built in font with another one in the bootloader ? |
08:09:39 | ptw419 | yes, if possible |
08:13:13 | TiMiD[FD] | it is defined in the build directory ( sysfont.h ) |
08:14:03 | ptw419 | ah, awesome |
08:14:10 | ptw419 | thanks that should do it hopefully |
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08:17:15 | TiMiD[FD] | good luck |
08:18:13 | TiMiD[FD] | one of those days I'll be so bored at work that I'll try to implement the independant font for remote and main |
08:18:28 | ptw419 | i think it is initialized before then somewhere, but that gives a good lead where to start |
08:18:41 | TiMiD[FD] | yes probably in the configure |
08:19:34 | ptw419 | my thougths too |
08:21:20 | * | amiconn wonders why one would need a different font in the bootloader |
08:21:26 | TiMiD[FD] | you could also just change the rockbox_default.bdf with another one |
08:21:34 | TiMiD[FD] | hehe |
08:21:43 | TiMiD[FD] | people are kamikaze sometimes |
08:21:46 | ptw419 | haha |
08:21:50 | amiconn | TiMiD[FD]: No, you can't |
08:22:02 | amiconn | Rockbox relies on the sysfont being 6x8 |
08:22:15 | amiconn | That's #defined somewhere |
08:22:19 | TiMiD[FD] | of course I can ^^ |
08:22:19 | ptw419 | well i'm trying to get a pic of hello world on the gigabeat S but I can't get my camera to focus w/ the small font |
08:22:33 | amiconn | ah |
08:22:37 | ptw419 | but aliask has a pic, so that may be solved... |
08:22:38 | TiMiD[FD] | even if I'll end up with a brick :) |
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08:23:30 | scorche | ptw419: his pic seems to be fine =) |
08:23:50 | scorche | interesting static =P |
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08:25:29 | TiMiD[FD] | who wrote the ata code for iriver ? |
08:25:36 | TiMiD[FD] | h1x0 I mean |
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08:26:13 | amiconn | The asm? |
08:26:26 | TiMiD[FD] | hmm no |
08:26:44 | TiMiD[FD] | the tests |
08:26:45 | ptw419 | scorche : the static is just decoration :) |
08:26:50 | amiconn | The general ata code is the same for all hdd based rockbox targets |
08:27:03 | amiconn | What tests? |
08:27:24 | TiMiD[FD] | I was obliged to disable some code to make the bootloader actually detect the disk |
08:27:56 | scorche | you are editing the H1x0 bootloader? |
08:28:07 | amiconn | ouch |
08:28:14 | TiMiD[FD] | oh I had no choice |
08:28:19 | scorche | gutsy... |
08:28:27 | TiMiD[FD] | it would say "ata error -32" or something like that |
08:28:44 | * | scorche should tell Linus_N to expect another iriver to fix |
08:28:57 | * | scorche wonders why he put the underscore int here |
08:28:58 | amiconn | The -32 should tell you where it failed |
08:29:01 | TiMiD[FD] | also it was unable to boot with the remote connected (saying the hold button was on) |
08:29:02 | ptw419 | i wonder if it would be difficult to create a gigabeat S gdb stub, or even worth it |
08:29:04 | TiMiD[FD] | yes |
08:29:10 | TiMiD[FD] | I found it and disabled that part |
08:29:18 | TiMiD[FD] | then recompiled and flashed |
08:29:21 | amiconn | But the code works on all other H1x0s so something must be wrong with your unit |
08:29:26 | TiMiD[FD] | work pretty well |
08:29:30 | TiMiD[FD] | hmm |
08:29:44 | TiMiD[FD] | actually there was another guy who had a similar problem on the forum |
08:30:04 | TiMiD[FD] | but disabling that part make my unit work again |
08:30:22 | amiconn | "that part" is rather imprecise |
08:30:37 | TiMiD[FD] | the check_registers function in ata.c |
08:30:41 | amiconn | linuxstb__: around? |
08:30:48 | TiMiD[FD] | line 716 |
08:31:04 | TiMiD[FD] | just made it return 0 in all cases |
08:31:27 | TiMiD[FD] | apart from the bootloader, the daily builds with that enabled work fine |
08:31:59 | amiconn | This tests is for checking whether the ata registers can be written&read reliably |
08:32:19 | amiconn | If this fails, expect other ata commands to go wrong occasionally |
08:32:36 | TiMiD[FD] | it fails only in the bootloader |
08:33:16 | TiMiD[FD] | when it's executed for the second time by the loaded image, it fails no more |
08:33:56 | TiMiD[FD] | that's weird ... |
08:34:36 | amiconn | Perhaps a timing problem - but that should be caught... |
08:36:38 | TiMiD[FD] | it's also disabled on PP5002 |
08:39:29 | TiMiD[FD] | if it was a timing problem why wouldn't that fail twice ? |
08:39:56 | TiMiD[FD] | the cpu frequency is different when in bootloader and in normal mode ? |
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08:46:50 | amiconn | I mean boot timing. The disk might not be ready when check_registers() is called |
08:47:29 | amiconn | Or rather, it says it's ready but doesn't react properly yet |
08:49:26 | TiMiD[FD] | maybe differences in the hardware ? |
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08:50:06 | TiMiD[FD] | I remember seing some people getting the same error on other forums |
08:50:24 | TiMiD[FD] | not a lot though |
08:52:28 | Transience | is anyone here working on the ZVM port? |
08:53:04 | Transience | i think that i have a way forward on it |
08:53:10 | scorche | Transience: we heard yout he first time |
08:53:18 | scorche | and they dont really hang out here |
08:53:26 | Transience | oh |
08:53:37 | scorche | you might want to post your idea in its thread on the forums |
08:53:49 | Transience | sorry, my network bumped me so i wasn't sure that i got through the first time |
08:53:58 | Transience | i did |
08:54:21 | Transience | i don't have the disassembly skill to test my idea though |
08:54:50 | scorche | well then just wait till you get a response from the thread |
08:55:06 | Transience | kk |
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09:07:11 | scorche | bluebrother: around? |
09:08:23 | GodEater_ | oh lord |
09:08:38 | GodEater_ | linuxstb is a drinking machine |
09:08:48 | scorche | ah...was that today? |
09:08:56 | GodEater_ | last night my time |
09:09:02 | GodEater_ | maybe today by yours ;) |
09:09:08 | scorche | =) |
09:09:18 | scorche | have fun? |
09:09:18 | dan_a | GodEater_: How's your head? |
09:09:21 | markun | GodEater_: did anyone take pictures? |
09:09:32 | GodEater_ | the head's okay - Febs wife took a couple of pics |
09:09:44 | GodEater_ | before we really got going too - so maybe we won't look like drunken slobs |
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09:10:06 | GodEater_ | yeah it was most excellent fun |
09:10:17 | GodEater_ | definitely on for another one soon if you're still due in town dan_a ;) |
09:10:36 | GodEater_ | Maybe Bagder will remember the T-Shirts this time too |
09:10:53 | GodEater_ | Febs was very disappointed - he really needed a T-Shirt - given that Gatwick managed to lose his luggage |
09:10:55 | dan_a | I'm around from 23rd, flying out on Friday 27th |
09:10:57 | scorche | dont tell me this si going to happen everytime rockbox devs meet up =P |
09:12:40 | GodEater_ | well dan_a - you suggest a day - we'll try and make it |
09:13:36 | scorche | hrm...perhaps i should have arranged a "lets get plastered" night at DCW... |
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09:13:47 | dan_a | I need to check what bands are playing that week, then I'll post something that doesn't clash on the forum thread :) |
09:14:16 | GodEater_ | good idea |
09:14:47 | GodEater_ | scorche: you mean you didn't manage to get plastered ? ;) |
09:14:59 | scorche | naw...we only had a few beers |
09:15:08 | scorche | and 2 didnt drink |
09:15:18 | GodEater_ | that makes it socially akward |
09:15:25 | GodEater_ | +w |
09:15:27 | scorche | not terrinly =P |
09:15:31 | scorche | terribly |
09:15:32 | GodEater_ | hehe |
09:15:45 | GodEater_ | I'm not sure I'd have been able to concentrate on a DevCon in Vegas |
09:15:58 | scorche | you would have been surprised... |
09:15:59 | GodEater_ | I'd definitely have been attracted by the pretty lights :) |
09:17:10 | bluebrother | scorche: yes, but I need to leave in a few minutes. |
09:17:22 | scorche | bluebrother: ah...then nvm =) |
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09:27:50 | crop | If I go to the voice menu (on my H120) and leave it by pressing LEFT (without changes), the splash "Cancelled" is displayed. I thought it shouldn't be shown if no changes are made to the setting. And it works like this in other menus. Does the voise menu has special code? |
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09:43:53 | pondlife | Hit and run - could anyone who has a clue about the Ipod 4G stability see if http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7398#comment16243 is a support issue perhaps. Smells like one to me. |
09:44:03 | pondlife | Back next week. |
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09:54:19 | TiMiD[FD] | does someone here know what kind of bug can cause a stack overflow ? |
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10:07:53 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: recursions, big arrays on the stack (defined in a local function), ... |
10:08:50 | petur | austriancoder: how are things going? |
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10:11:51 | austriancoder | petur: had to spend yesterday with my bacc thesis - needed to do some correction reading, but today I want to get it running |
10:13:10 | petur | sooo.... you want to get a positive midterm evaluation? ;) |
10:13:28 | austriancoder | ;) |
10:13:30 | austriancoder | sure |
10:13:59 | petur | I'll have the results on my desk friday evening then :p |
10:14:39 | scorche | petur: can i get a positive midterm evaluation as well? |
10:14:51 | petur | for what? |
10:15:05 | scorche | i dont know..i thought you were offering one to everyone =( |
10:15:25 | petur | austriancoder: did you see my mail and did it make any sense? |
10:16:50 | austriancoder | petur: jep got it.. I am fixing queue head init right now |
10:17:33 | petur | I'm not saying it was wrong, just suggesting stuff to look at... |
10:18:05 | petur | I'm not familiar with that usb controller at all |
10:18:08 | Neovanglist | gaim |
10:18:11 | Neovanglist | doh |
10:18:13 | Neovanglist | sorry:) |
10:19:01 | austriancoder | petur: It must be this or the way I generate the transfer descriptors.. give about 10-15 minutes and I can tell you more |
10:19:25 | petur | no hurry, I'm working (or should be) anyway |
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10:22:48 | aliask | We're looking at setting up some kind of repository for the gigabeat port while it's not ready for the main tree. Git or SVN? :) |
10:24:27 | TiMiD[FD] | petur: well the mpeg player is always crashing with a stack overflow |
10:24:34 | TiMiD[FD] | I wonder what's wrong |
10:25:08 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: 1) main stack too small or 2) too much data allocated on the stack |
10:25:24 | Zagor | aliask: how about a branch in the main svn? |
10:25:28 | TiMiD[FD] | that doesn't depends on the target right ? |
10:25:46 | aliask | Zagor: That'd work quite well I think. |
10:25:55 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: no, except maybe for some targets with less memory |
10:26:07 | TiMiD[FD] | ok so ... |
10:26:21 | TiMiD[FD] | I suppose I'm the only one here to have this plugin crash |
10:26:40 | Zagor | aliask: I think it would be good. that way the project is very visible and accessible even though it's not in the main trunk. |
10:26:55 | TiMiD[FD] | (not that I use it intensively, on a grayscale screen it doesn't renders that good) |
10:27:33 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll try to monitor at which point it crashes |
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10:27:46 | ptw419 | zagor: definately that would be a big help |
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10:29:02 | Zagor | aliask, ptw419: do you all have commit access already, or does someone need to be added? |
10:29:23 | aliask | I don't think either of us have any sort of access |
10:29:32 | Zagor | ok |
10:29:51 | ptw419 | i don't have access |
10:29:56 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: you could try to increase the main stack a little bit and see if it helps. If a small increase helps, then it was running it against the limits... |
10:31:18 | Zagor | aliask: who is working on this port? |
10:31:42 | aliask | At the moment, pretty much ptw419 and myself only. |
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10:33:11 | TiMiD[FD] | petur: but if I seem to be the only one getting this error |
10:33:26 | TiMiD[FD] | so it's probably a bug related to my hardware |
10:34:01 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: can't believe that... does it depend on the movie you play? Using svn or custom build? |
10:34:03 | TiMiD[FD] | it started to happen when I updated the bootloader (or maybe with the next build) |
10:34:18 | TiMiD[FD] | no it crashes on every movie instantaneously |
10:34:24 | TiMiD[FD] | but I use a svn bootloader |
10:34:42 | TiMiD[FD] | is the stack initialized in the bootloader ? |
10:36:06 | petur | I woulnd't think so |
10:36:16 | petur | what device? |
10:36:30 | TiMiD[FD] | iriver h1x0 |
10:37:04 | * | GodEater_ didn't even know mpegplayer ran on the h1x0 |
10:37:08 | petur | maybe nobody else watches movies on it so nobody noticed anything? |
10:37:16 | TiMiD[FD] | haha probably :) |
10:37:16 | petur | does it use grayscale lib? |
10:37:26 | TiMiD[FD] | it's so laggy and ugly ! |
10:37:30 | TiMiD[FD] | yes it does |
10:37:40 | petur | that could be the reason then |
10:37:46 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
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10:38:04 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm here briefly |
10:38:12 | petur | maybe it's at the limit and the extra mem for grayscale lib makes it too much |
10:38:16 | TiMiD[FD] | maybe the use of the grayscale lib takes more space in the stack .... |
10:38:22 | petur | exactly |
10:38:30 | TiMiD[FD] | but |
10:38:35 | * | petur looks at linuxstb and amiconn |
10:38:42 | TiMiD[FD] | it happened when I updated the bootloader |
10:39:01 | amiconn | linuxstb: The wmacodec in svn sets CONFIG_ALIGN for all targets, but in fact we only need it for arm |
10:39:24 | TiMiD[FD] | I will try to increase it's size if it's not obfuscated in asm code |
10:39:33 | amiconn | I tried undefining it for coldfire, and after some other fixes I got it working |
10:39:39 | GodEater_ | how's the head this morning linuxstb ? ;) |
10:39:54 | amiconn | Gives about 1.5% speedup (143->145% realtime with 128kbps) |
10:40:02 | amiconn | Do you think it's worth it? |
10:40:14 | GodEater_ | any speedup is worth it imo |
10:40:24 | amiconn | Btw, the bswap.h stuff is only ever used when CONFIG_ALIGN is undefined |
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10:41:09 | linuxstb | amiconn: That was something I wanted to look at as well, so am happy you've done it first. Yes, I think it's worthwhile, every little helps. |
10:41:47 | linuxstb | Shouldn't we be using the system.h swapping functions instead of bswap.h? |
10:41:55 | TiMiD[FD] | amiconn: do you know by any chance where is the stack size located ? isn't that related to the global memory map ? |
10:41:58 | crop | Anyone about the "menu bug"? (see 9:27) |
10:44:01 | amiconn | TiMiD[FD]: Define _the_ stacksize. Every thread has its own stack |
10:44:49 | amiconn | linuxstb: I already hooked our swap functions into bswap.h. Maybe we should use them directly and get rid of bswap.h instead (again)? |
10:44:59 | TiMiD[FD] | oh ok |
10:45:16 | TiMiD[FD] | it's defined per thread |
10:45:26 | amiconn | I'm not sure how much it matters to deviate from ffmpeg code |
10:45:49 | petur | TiMiD[FD]: the plugins use the main stack |
10:46:10 | linuxstb | I'm not sure either, but saratoga seems to be currently syncing code to current ffmpeg SVN (the codec was based on a very old version of ffmpeg), so I'm guessing at least for now we should try and stay with ffmpeg. |
10:46:17 | amiconn | TiMiD[FD]: The main stack is 8KB on all targets. This is defined in the linker script. Then there's a default stack size (1KB) #define d for other threads, but many threads modify that |
10:47:05 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
10:47:16 | TiMiD[FD] | but I get the error in the main stack so |
10:47:43 | TiMiD[FD] | anyway time to go back home :) |
10:47:53 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll look at that later |
10:48:30 | linuxstb | GodEater_: The head's fine ;) |
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10:49:26 | GodEater_ | linuxstb: I got away hangover free too - though my stomach's still complaing a little about the curry. Glad I can say I've been to the "original" indian restaurant in London. Not sure I'd go back though :) |
10:51:27 | linuxstb | I like the food there. Although I've obviously never eaten the meat... |
10:53:01 | GodEater_ | yes, the "cat" curry might be what's not agreed with me... |
10:53:33 | petur | meow? |
10:55:14 | GodEater_ | petur: we were told it was lamb, but there was some joke made about it possibly being of feline origin ;) |
10:55:33 | petur | heh |
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10:56:37 | petur | I don't really like eating indian because I never manage to identify what's in there... |
10:57:35 | GodEater_ | Did anyone get husitska's real name in the end ? I'm embarrassed to say I never found out... |
10:57:37 | scorche | why is it that all 3 meetings have had indian food somewhere in them? |
10:57:46 | GodEater_ | scorche: it's traditional ;) |
10:57:54 | scorche | it wasnt even planned! |
10:58:38 | linuxstb | GodEater_: Had chance to open your 3G yet? |
10:59:02 | markun | linuxstb: you don't eat meat? |
10:59:14 | GodEater_ | linuxstb: yes - already changed the HD over. I didn't spot it last night but your drive was a single platter - so I had to pad the inside of the case with a "Pret A Manger" napkin to stop the drive rattling around. |
10:59:37 | GodEater_ | bet the ipod modders out there would love to see that ;) |
10:59:54 | linuxstb | markun: Not for about 17 years. |
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11:00:15 | markun | I only stopped eatig it 5 years ago :) |
11:00:29 | scorche | crazy people... |
11:00:47 | markun | spending all their time on rockbox and alcohol.. |
11:01:18 | linuxstb | Two things that can't be mixed efficiently... |
11:01:42 | linuxstb | (unless it's sitting in a pub complaining about the forum posters) |
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11:02:06 | scorche | who needs a pub to do that? |
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11:09:42 | GodEater_ | you don't *need* a pub to do that - but it did make it more fun ;) |
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11:16:41 | GodEater_ | linuxstb__: the ipod restore has worked too - the original owner is now a happy man :) |
11:16:44 | markun | midk: what's up? |
11:16:55 | midk | sorry, almost done |
11:18:00 | * | scorche wonders if midk has developed a bit of schizophrenia and is trying it out in an irc environment |
11:18:06 | midk | haha. |
11:18:25 | midk | scorche: you may have some idea what this is about. :E |
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11:44:31 | scorche | Bagder: around? |
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11:48:12 | JdGordon | anyone want to test out the new hard disk debug screen before I commit? |
11:49:23 | JdGordon | too slow... looks sooo much nicer |
11:52:15 | JdGordon | any objection to merging the 3 different disk info names in the debug menu to just "view disk info" ? |
11:52:35 | JdGordon | instead of "view MMC info", "view microSD info" and "view disk info" |
11:53:41 | JdGordon | anyone still alive? |
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11:55:29 | Nick_Brackley | yep, no objections here |
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12:01:28 | petur | *shrug* |
12:02:42 | JdGordon | :O what happened to our nice green table? |
12:03:19 | JdGordon | bitstream.c: In function 'build_table': <- anyone else think thats a funny function name to cause the colour :) |
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12:04:33 | petur | hehe |
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12:04:57 | petur | I wonder why he doesn't fix it :( |
12:05:24 | JdGordon | in the land off nod maybe? |
12:06:08 | * | JdGordon loves when some targets go green and some red in the deltas |
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12:13:27 | safetydan | huzzah! database sort tags sort of works |
12:15:55 | krp | i didn't find information about a global bug which affects database refresh on the sansa e200 |
12:16:27 | krp | to upload new mp3s i just boot on the old firmware, upload the files via mass storage, and reboot again on the old firmware |
12:16:37 | krp | i then reboot on rockbox |
12:16:53 | krp | and it does not try to update automatically (the auto update option is not set) |
12:17:19 | krp | when i go in the menus and manually update, it never works the first time, i have to do it like 2 or 3 times |
12:17:38 | krp | has anyone experienced the same stuff ? ^^ |
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12:41:55 | PaulJam | could one of the devs who use the random folder function have a look at FS #7077 ? |
12:42:58 | LqR | How's rockbox working on iPod photo these days? |
12:45:05 | LqR | I remember having to use special patched builds without the CPU frequency scaling options, because they randomly crashed it |
12:46:00 | PaulJam | LqR: i think amoconn fixed those crashes some days ago. |
12:46:19 | JdGordon | PaulJam: whats 7077? |
12:46:54 | JdGordon | ah, yeah |
12:48:04 | LqR | cool. |
12:48:10 | LqR | Perhaps I'll give it a try again then |
12:48:18 | JdGordon | i got my uni results... 3/4 credits :) |
12:48:27 | GodEater_ | well done ;) |
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12:48:37 | LqR | how's the battery time nowadays? |
12:48:40 | JdGordon | i was expecting at least 1 fail :) |
12:48:57 | PaulJam | LqR: still bad afaik |
12:49:18 | LqR | thought so |
12:50:08 | LqR | too bad. Having a player with large storage capacity sort of loses its meaning when the player dies after being powered on for two hours |
12:50:40 | GodEater_ | LqR: try a DAP that's better understood |
12:51:07 | GodEater_ | although 2 hours sounds a little excessive |
12:51:12 | GodEater_ | I get about 10 out of my video |
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12:51:35 | PaulJam | LqR: you should get more than 2 hours. most people report 50-70% of the original firmware. |
12:53:41 | LqR | heh, well I use very power-hungry headphones, so it's not just rockbox |
12:54:14 | LqR | and I think that was a bit of an understatement too |
12:59:32 | scorche | what impedance are they? |
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13:01:36 | LqR | don't know |
13:01:51 | LqR | heh, wait I'll check |
13:03:03 | LqR | 32ohms |
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13:03:29 | LqR | http://www.gradolabs.com/product_pages/sr60.htm <−− those. |
13:12:02 | amiconn | Power hungry headphones?? |
13:12:24 | scorche | 32 ohms are not power hungry... |
13:12:32 | amiconn | At reasonable listening volume, the headphone power drain is neglectible compared to the rest of the hardware |
13:12:35 | scorche | s/are/is |
13:12:57 | scorche | if it was 600 ohms, i could understand...but not 32.. |
13:13:22 | amiconn | 600 ohms headphones need less current than 32 ohms |
13:13:56 | LqR | interesting |
13:14:16 | amiconn | It depends on the sensitivity how much power the headphones need for a certain perceived volume |
13:15:02 | LqR | Well, I just supposed they were, because both of the DAPs I've tried them with ran out of battery much faster than when I used other headphones |
13:15:12 | amiconn | And comparing 2 headphones at the same out power but with different impedance, the ones with higher impedance need less dc power |
13:15:43 | amiconn | ...because less current means less power loss in the headphone amp. |
13:17:27 | amiconn | The drawback is that the maximum possible output power is lower. Of course its only a drawback if the available power isn't sufficient for the listener |
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13:24:37 | indro | hi all |
13:24:42 | indro | i updated my rockbox version |
13:24:55 | indro | now i get "Incompatible model" when I want run a plugin. |
13:25:01 | indro | anyone know whats wrong? |
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13:26:03 | petur | unzip everything |
13:26:22 | petur | you didn't overwrite the plugin(s) |
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13:30:07 | indro | i removed .rockbox |
13:30:15 | indro | and unzipped it |
13:30:53 | indro | but will try again. |
13:30:59 | petur | if you remove .rockbox you lost your settings... |
13:31:17 | indro | i have backuped it. ;) |
13:31:41 | petur | I just unzip everything on top |
13:32:17 | indro | i wasnt sure if that works |
13:32:29 | scorche | it does...it just overwrites everything |
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13:32:53 | indro | ok, good to known, thanks ;) |
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13:33:30 | pixelma | what player do you have and where do you have the zip from (compiled your own)? "Incompatible _model_" is something else than "Incompatible version"... |
13:33:56 | indro | ipod 60gb |
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13:34:12 | indro | got it from recent build |
13:34:40 | indro | http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo64mb/rockbox.zip |
13:35:07 | indro | this one.. |
13:35:24 | scorche | oh bah...i got fooled by that again and pixelma came the the rescue again =/ |
13:35:45 | pixelma | but I have no idea, what's wrong now |
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13:37:20 | indro | hmm, so what to do`? |
13:37:33 | petur | at least the zip looks ok, are you really sure it was unzipped completely (all subdirectories?) |
13:37:38 | pixelma | indro: I'd try to install again - maybe something was messed up during unzipping, if not... maybe try a daily build next? |
13:39:07 | indro | i unzipped it again, still same error. |
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13:42:00 | amiconn | indro: Mixing the 32 and 64MB builds would cause the same symptom (i.e. plugins from one and rockbox.ipod from the other |
13:42:04 | indro | hm on daily builds there is a 32mb and 46mb version. |
13:42:17 | indro | *64mb |
13:42:52 | indro | i dont mixing |
13:43:26 | pixelma | do you have a rockbox,ipod in the root of your player - i.e. not in the .rockbox folder? |
13:43:33 | indro | whats the different between this version? |
13:43:35 | pixelma | maybe? |
13:43:43 | indro | and how i know what my player is? |
13:44:12 | pixelma | *rockbox.ipod even |
13:44:35 | indro | yes there is rockbox.ipod |
13:44:49 | markun | indro: the ipod videos with >= 60GB have 64MB |
13:45:17 | pixelma | delete that - this is an old one. The correct place for it is now in the .rockbox folder |
13:45:27 | indro | why then a 32mb version exist? |
13:45:37 | indro | pixelma: ok will do that. |
13:45:51 | markun | indro: because there are also players with < 60GB which have 32MB |
13:45:52 | indro | which version should I take now, 32mb or 64mb? |
13:46:11 | indro | ah okay, I see... |
13:46:30 | indro | will replace now rockbox.ipod |
13:46:42 | pixelma | if you deleted that, you won't need to install the daily build probably |
13:47:07 | indro | deleted what? |
13:47:07 | pixelma | (just leave the .rockbox folder you already put on there) ;) |
13:47:22 | pixelma | the rockbox.ipod in the root |
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13:47:36 | pixelma | of your player |
13:47:48 | indro | why wont need to install daily build? |
13:48:07 | pixelma | I thought you already installed the current one |
13:48:32 | indro | i have now installed 32mb daily build |
13:48:51 | indro | thought maybe its 64mbit that cause the prob |
13:48:59 | pixelma | if you have a 60GB Ipod, you can take the 64MB build |
13:49:22 | indro | yeah, i see now. :) |
13:50:24 | * | petur wonders how austriancoder is doing... |
13:51:04 | indro | its wrong rockbox.ipod build |
13:51:12 | indro | that cause prob.. |
13:51:52 | pixelma | what do you mean? |
13:51:56 | indro | 64mb installed, rockbox.ipod replaced, now rebooting. ;) |
13:52:50 | indro | w00t, it works, thanks guys! :) |
13:53:26 | petur | indro: you should have removed rockbox.ipod from the root, not replaced it.... |
13:53:46 | indro | yeah i replaced the one in root. ;) |
13:53:51 | petur | remove it |
13:54:06 | petur | or you'll face the same problem next time |
13:54:13 | indro | did that. ;) |
13:54:22 | petur | good |
13:55:12 | indro | then copied the one from new .rockbox in root |
13:55:27 | petur | nooooo |
13:55:29 | pixelma | no... leave it in .rockbox - as I said |
13:55:50 | indro | ohhh okay, will remove it. ^^ |
13:57:07 | indro | thought the file is necessary in root to boot.. |
13:59:28 | petur | it was moved to .rockbox |
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14:00:05 | petur | does the latest bootloader still look for it in the root? |
14:00:31 | indro | i think so... |
14:00:38 | pixelma | quote myself "The correct place for it is now in the .rockbox folder" - if you have one in the root, it won't be replaced in a future update. The bootloader might run this version and then you'll get a mismatch with the plugins or codecs again |
14:01:12 | indro | its linux ipod loader. |
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14:09:00 | DerPapst | Good afternoon |
14:09:08 | DerPapst | :) |
14:09:32 | miepchen^schlaf | hi DerPapst |
14:11:41 | petur | whoa, miepchen^schlaf woke up :) |
14:12:10 | miepchen^schlaf | :) |
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14:14:31 | DerPapst | miepchen^schlaf: this is the second time i see you talking :D |
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14:27:53 | senab | is the twiki working properly? the bottom menu isn't coming up for me at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
14:30:15 | senab | no matter, i've worked out the URL manually |
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14:41:25 | Soul-Slayer | Hey - I think I've busted my Gigabeat, it loads to the rockbox bootloader and halts saying "*PANIC* Error! tick_add_ta sk(): out of tasks" |
14:41:37 | Soul-Slayer | Meaning I can't get a USB connection |
14:44:03 | indro | is there anyone a package with all rockbox themes? |
14:44:41 | indro | *anywhere |
14:47:58 | petur | what, you want to install them all? |
14:48:14 | petur | try rbutil (RockboxUtility) |
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14:49:52 | jac0b | on the gigabeat when I try to play a video it says "incompatible version" |
14:50:54 | jhMikeS | Soul-Slayer: I got that one and it was hotswap time. |
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14:54:39 | Soul-Slayer | Brilliant, opened it up and doing it fine |
14:54:45 | Soul-Slayer | Now to get rid of this corrupt bootloader... |
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14:55:17 | pixelma | jac0b: do you have a rockbox.gigabeat in the root of your player (not in the .rockbox folder) by any chance? |
14:55:34 | Soul-Slayer | That was a little worrying, lol |
14:56:03 | jac0b | nope |
14:56:05 | jhMikeS | I don't think it should be trying to enable that there. :\ |
14:56:12 | jac0b | its in the .rockbox folder |
14:56:29 | Soul-Slayer | I don't like the gooey packaging thing for the hard disk... Hard to work with |
14:57:08 | pixelma | jac0b: that should be alright - where do you have the zip from? |
14:57:13 | * | jhMikeS 's had sand stuck all over it |
14:57:38 | Soul-Slayer | o.0... |
14:57:41 | jac0b | pixelma: you mean my build |
14:57:47 | pixelma | yes |
14:58:16 | Soul-Slayer | I hate these screws too lol |
14:59:07 | jhMikeS | those take far longer to find if you drop them than to do the hotswap |
14:59:24 | Soul-Slayer | Don't even joke about that |
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15:01:53 | markun | jac0b: you get this error when you rockbox.gigabeat and the plugins are out of sync. did you update either of them without updating the other? |
15:02:13 | jac0b | hmm |
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15:02:34 | jac0b | I will have to update my svn when I get home |
15:02:48 | jac0b | I did a fresh build last nite |
15:03:11 | webguest57 | hey guys im new to rockbox nd have a question for you all |
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15:03:35 | jac0b | whats the question |
15:03:37 | webguest57 | i have a gigabeat f60 and i cant get a wps to load correctly |
15:03:46 | webguest57 | any tips? |
15:03:52 | jac0b | what WPS are you using |
15:03:53 | Soul-Slayer | Whats wrong with it? |
15:04:03 | Soul-Slayer | If there is random text/numbers on the screen, you may need a patched build |
15:04:53 | webguest57 | im trying to use the beatgirl MP |
15:05:01 | webguest57 | the backdrop loads |
15:05:12 | webguest57 | but the now playing screen is tha default one |
15:05:56 | Soul-Slayer | All the files are in the correct places? |
15:06:20 | Soul-Slayer | And did you load it through 'Browse themes'? |
15:06:33 | webguest57 | i load it through browse themes yeah |
15:06:39 | webguest57 | and the bacdrop pops up |
15:06:49 | webguest57 | but when i play a song it looks the same as the default |
15:07:00 | PaulJam | that means that there was an error while loading the wps. propably the wps needs a patched build. |
15:07:20 | Soul-Slayer | GO on the forums, under 'Unsupported builds' |
15:07:51 | jac0b | the theme might be updated with the new WPS code |
15:07:54 | Soul-Slayer | But like it says, they are unsupported |
15:08:14 | aliask | The WPS works on a daily build |
15:08:24 | aliask | According to rockbox-themes.org |
15:08:30 | Soul-Slayer | Hmm |
15:08:32 | Soul-Slayer | Let me try it |
15:08:34 | Soul-Slayer | Sec |
15:08:40 | webguest57 | ok thank you all! |
15:08:49 | Soul-Slayer | *Now his gigabeat is up and running again* |
15:09:13 | Soul-Slayer | Right |
15:09:16 | Soul-Slayer | You're correct |
15:09:22 | Soul-Slayer | Backbeat MP has the default WPS on mine too |
15:09:26 | jac0b | but that has album art you need a patched build |
15:09:27 | Soul-Slayer | And I'm using a daily build |
15:09:33 | Soul-Slayer | So you need an unsupported one |
15:10:01 | Soul-Slayer | I'm off out now this thing works, thanks jhMikeS |
15:10:20 | webguest57 | so what can can u do to fix it? |
15:10:42 | jac0b | you need to look at the wps code |
15:10:48 | Soul-Slayer | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10163.0 |
15:10:53 | Soul-Slayer | You can either install that build |
15:10:54 | * | jhMikeS should look into what's up with that |
15:10:56 | Soul-Slayer | Or modify the WPS |
15:10:59 | jac0b | and have a uisimulator |
15:12:05 | jac0b | I will be uploading a mofied version of the plainbrown theme today when I get home |
15:12:17 | jac0b | which will be for the gigabeat |
15:12:49 | webguest57 | i'll try that build! thanks! |
15:13:09 | pixelma | markun: if they are out-of-sync, he usually would get "Incompatible version" not "Incompatible model". One gets the latter if you try plugins compiled for the sim on target or vice-versa - in case of the Ipod guy before it was because the old rockbox.ipod in the root of the player was probably compiled before the split of 32/64MB builds... |
15:13:32 | jhMikeS | the build table's getting festively colorful again |
15:13:54 | pixelma | markun: oh sorry, misread jac0b's report |
15:14:48 | * | pixelma goes back to the corner |
15:15:39 | webguest57 | that worked |
15:15:42 | webguest57 | THANKS |
15:19:09 | markun | pixelma: don't worry :) I'm surprised it wasn't me who got it wrong |
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15:32:28 | indro | wow, I discovered the rockbox utility, very nice thing. :) |
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15:36:48 | indro | no need for a theme package. ;) |
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16:19:56 | PaulJam | any forum moderator/admin here? |
16:20:08 | petur | for? |
16:21:48 | PaulJam | removing a link to a warez site. |
16:21:53 | petur | where? |
16:22:32 | PaulJam | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11521.msg87031;topicseen#msg87031 |
16:24:26 | petur | the link he posts doesn't even seem to work, what was it pointing to? |
16:25:59 | PaulJam | looked like a page to download gameboy roms, but i haven't looked very closely at the page. |
16:26:49 | petur | I'll remove it... |
16:28:14 | petur | done |
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16:46:36 | PaulJam | does rockbox read replaygain tags from wma files? i used foobar2000 to add the replaygain tags, but they don't seem to work in rockbox. |
16:46:48 | GodEater_ | PaulJam: probably not yet |
16:46:57 | GodEater_ | it's still quite a young codec after all :) |
16:47:46 | PaulJam | ok |
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16:52:44 | * | GodEater_ wonders if he should look into purchasing a gigabeat S now... |
16:54:08 | GodEater_ | hahahaha - 53sMhz processor |
16:54:13 | GodEater_ | 532 even |
16:54:19 | GodEater_ | amiconn won't approve at all |
16:54:31 | GodEater_ | and an FPU of all things |
16:55:53 | Bagder | now we have to port all codecs to do floating point ;-P |
16:56:01 | GodEater_ | hahahaha |
16:56:02 | markun | just what I was thinking :) |
16:56:14 | petur | doesn't it have a ZIF HDD connector too? |
16:56:16 | GodEater_ | Bagder: isn't that "port them *back*" |
16:56:21 | markun | petur: it does |
16:56:51 | markun | I think even the Gigabeat X has a ZIF HDD connector |
16:56:56 | petur | hmmm 120GB... :D |
16:57:13 | markun | but no recording, right? |
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16:57:50 | petur | haven't checked |
16:57:53 | GodEater_ | you can fit a 120GB drive in it ?!? |
16:57:57 | linuxstb | PaulJam: Can you make one of your replaygained wma files available? I'll see if it's easy to support. |
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17:01:20 | markun | GodEater_: non of the 120GB drives (samsung and seagate) are for sale |
17:01:30 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
17:01:54 | markun | I didn't even find the model numer of the samsung drive |
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17:03:13 | saratoga | linuxstb: regarding syncing WMA to ffmpeg, I'm mostly doing it because the version of ffmpeg the codec is based on did not properly decode some of my low bitrate files, while the current svn version does |
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17:04:25 | amiconn | The fact that the gigabeat S has an fpu doesn't mean it would be better to run floating point codecs |
17:04:29 | GodEater_ | markun: v. v. tempting |
17:04:51 | GodEater_ | amiconn: I think we were joking ;) |
17:05:00 | amiconn | E.g. for amiga, there are 2 versions of libmad for 68060, an integer and an fpu version |
17:05:13 | amiconn | The int version is almost twice as fast |
17:06:08 | markun | but the i.mx31 can do floating point vector operations |
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17:06:17 | markun | so I assume that will be fast |
17:06:21 | markun | if we find any use for it |
17:07:14 | saratoga | hopefully it can do vector int too |
17:07:25 | saratoga | which is probably what we'd want to use |
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17:09:19 | * | JdGordon returns victorious from a night of poker :D |
17:11:10 | JdGordon | amiconn: you round? |
17:13:18 | GodEater_ | are you saying he's fat ? |
17:14:28 | pixelma | fat32? :) |
17:14:28 | JdGordon | pixelma: forgot to mention in the commit that pressing ACTION_STD_OK in the disk debug screen changes the displayed disk (i.e to the external mmc) |
17:14:47 | JdGordon | ... and anyone else who needs to know that |
17:15:15 | pixelma | haven't tried that yet |
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17:18:00 | donutman25 | hi guys |
17:18:15 | donutman25 | i think there is an error in viewvc |
17:19:02 | petur | such as? |
17:19:35 | donutman25 | it says something about an exception has occured when i try to view diffs |
17:19:51 | petur | hmmm indeed |
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17:20:29 | * | petur passes it on to Bagder .... |
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17:21:16 | fm2 | petur: here? |
17:21:25 | petur | yo |
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17:21:57 | fm2 | petur: why have you rejected your thoughts about file exts? |
17:22:51 | petur | I haven't completely, must think about it again tonight.... doesn't go well at work ;) |
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17:23:41 | fm2 | petur: I see :-) The only thing that goes well at work is zzzzz.... |
17:24:14 | markun | and beer |
17:24:15 | petur | not here... I'm reading boring design specifications :/ |
17:24:37 | petur | beer is friday only :) |
17:24:44 | petur | (at work that is) |
17:24:56 | fm2 | petur: ok then. I'll look into the FS task later. Have a nice day. |
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17:33:16 | JdGordon | petur: iim not having any luck reporducing 7332 |
17:33:36 | JdGordon | on h300 and sansa |
17:33:52 | petur | I see it from time to time on my h300 |
17:34:03 | petur | yesterday even... |
17:34:20 | petur | looks like a glitch to me |
17:34:29 | JdGordon | does it only happen if its buffering at the time? |
17:34:58 | petur | I shall have to look at that when it happens again |
17:36:22 | * | amiconn experienced hard freezes on H180 twice within one week :( |
17:36:36 | amiconn | That was while browsing, no playback, voice enabled |
17:36:41 | JdGordon | he is here.... |
17:37:14 | JdGordon | amiconn: whats happening with viewports? can you get your thoughts down somewhere so someone can do them if you dont have the time? |
17:40:09 | pixelma | JdGordon: he tried to explain some 'live' at devcon. I think no-one could follow... seems quit far in thinking process and he said writing the ideas down would most probably take longer than code it |
17:40:11 | petur | JdGordon has spare time? |
17:40:31 | * | JdGordon has plenty.... |
17:40:49 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok, so we wait |
17:40:54 | petur | heh, I started to understand the third time he explained and have forgotten already ;) |
17:45:26 | JdGordon | any objections to adding the option screen for the fm region between asking to auto-scan and actually scanning when you enter the screen? |
17:45:53 | * | amiconn thinks the auto-scan question could be removed |
17:46:44 | JdGordon | na, its good, just annoying atm |
17:48:04 | bluebrother | why not move auto-scan to an option in the context menu? |
17:48:14 | bluebrother | hmm, isn't it present in the context menu already? |
17:49:07 | * | bluebrother checks |
17:50:32 | JdGordon | it is |
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17:53:12 | bluebrother | yeah. But in that case the question about auto-scan could be removed IMO |
17:54:14 | JdGordon | where would i find the sleep timer setting in the manul? |
17:55:02 | JdGordon | found it |
17:56:19 | bluebrother | ah, me was too slow :) |
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17:59:54 | Jeton | JdGordon: Can you explain to me what doeas the 5min increment mean here- >http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7217 |
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18:00:09 | Jeton | the 5 in the Sleep Timer means 5 hours or? |
18:00:16 | JdGordon | setting it to 00:05 means shutdown in 5 min... |
18:00:23 | JdGordon | 05:00 is shutdown in 5 hours |
18:00:52 | JdGordon | should I close 5278? or work on a patch for it? |
18:01:57 | bluebrother | well, as far as I remember auto-switching screens aren't wanted, so ... |
18:02:06 | Jeton | JdGordon: Geez :( sorry for the confusion. I messed up the min with the sec.(there was no "min" indication ) |
18:02:18 | Jeton | Thank you. |
18:02:21 | JdGordon | np |
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18:11:59 | aliask | Anybody know their ATA defines? |
18:12:43 | * | JdGordon left them in his other pants |
18:12:46 | aliask | Is ATA_NSECTOR the sector number or the sector count? (and is ATA_SECTOR) the other? |
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18:14:49 | aliask | Looks like NSECTOR is the count. |
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18:25:23 | pixelma | hmm... judged from the forums it seems like a good "new ports" week |
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18:41:45 | DerPapst | wow.. not bad... 2 ongoing ports... |
18:43:00 | aliask | Which is the other? |
18:43:08 | DerPapst | m:robe |
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18:43:48 | aliask | Oh wow. Had to hit refresh to see the thread |
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18:45:48 | DerPapst | but i would go with the jiggabeat S if i had to buy a new targed :P |
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18:46:14 | DerPapst | but the windows button is somekind of ugly :D |
18:46:30 | aliask | Heh, I'm sure you could change it if you were dedicated |
18:46:54 | DerPapst | i'm pretty sure i would try it ;) |
18:48:29 | * | DerPapst dreams of running every codec in rockbox with full speed... |
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19:15:58 | * | amiconn isn't tempted at all to get a Gigabeat F or even S |
19:16:44 | * | moos isn't surprised :) |
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19:16:52 | moos | I'm wondering why?... ;) |
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19:18:34 | rey | Just to let someone know - I think all the "undefeined instruction" errors that have been popping up in bug reports are caused by the iCatcher theme being incompatible with current builds |
19:18:57 | rey | I went back to using the default theme and haven't had any problems |
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19:21:53 | pixelma | that seems rather unlikely... |
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19:31:57 | pixelma | the only thing I could imagine that it hits some limit now (it's quite long code-wise, probably uses a lot of the wps buffer and has some animation...) - could that cause issues? /me just thinking aloud |
19:36:22 | * | ender` yawns |
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20:08:42 | austriancoder | petur: hmmm |
20:08:53 | austriancoder | petur: I think i found something |
20:09:00 | DerPapst | s/petur/beer |
20:09:10 | DerPapst | :P |
20:09:14 | petur | *trigger* |
20:09:35 | austriancoder | logf("1 prime=0x%x", UDC_ENDPTPRIME); UDC_ENDPTPRIME |= bitmask; logf("2 prime=0x%x", UDC_ENDPTPRIME); |
20:09:58 | austriancoder | bitmask is 0x10000 |
20:10:30 | austriancoder | but both logf calls resulting in "x prime=0x0" |
20:11:18 | petur | strange |
20:12:29 | bluebrother | hmm. Is UDC_ENDPTPRIME a define? |
20:13:01 | austriancoder | #define UDC_ENDPTPRIME (*(volatile unsigned int *)(USB_BASE+0x1b0)) /* Endpoint Initialization Register */ |
20:15:19 | petur | bah.. brb (30 min) |
20:16:31 | DerPapst | brb.. even longer |
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20:22:27 | austriancoder | petur: using bitmask 0x2000 the setting works.. hmmm |
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20:22:58 | austriancoder | results in a transaction and buffer error in the queue head |
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20:25:43 | austriancoder | in the 3rd queue head |
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20:31:12 | trancestorm | quick ?. Why is that EvilG's Fire build syncs when the usb is connected, and the opposite for the Fusion build? How can I make the fusion build do this? |
20:32:52 | Domonoky_ | trancestorm: they are called "unsupported" builds, so not much help here.. |
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20:33:19 | Domonoky_ | but its probably a patch.. so to change you have to compile rockbox yourself |
20:33:43 | trancestorm | dang, thanks anyway. So is there a build that is supported other than the default one? |
20:34:18 | Domonoky_ | only the official builds are supported.. |
20:34:32 | trancestorm | gotcha |
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20:39:44 | petur | austriancoder: could it be that the hardware responds immediatly (and thus clears the bit) before the value is read back? |
20:40:33 | amiconn | Or it's a write-only bit |
20:40:42 | petur | it's r/w |
20:40:45 | austriancoder | petur: maybe.. but I dont get any errror and ENDPTCOMPLETE, wich indicates that an transfer is done is not set |
20:41:01 | petur | oh... hmmm |
20:41:06 | austriancoder | amiconn: http://www.christian-gmeiner.info/soc/MCIMX31RM.pdf chapter 32 |
20:41:48 | austriancoder | I check for errors every time an the irq handler is called at the end of the handler... |
20:41:49 | austriancoder | /* watch qhs for important status bits */ for (i = 0; i < USB_MAX_PIPES; i++) { if (qh[i].size_ioc_int_sts & DTD_STATUS_DATA_BUFF_ERR) { logf("!!!buffer error %d", i); } if (qh[i].size_ioc_int_sts & DTD_STATUS_TRANSACTION_ERR) { logf("!!!transaction error %d", i); } } |
20:45:09 | petur | is that endpointnumber correct? 0x10000 = endpoint 4? |
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20:45:54 | austriancoder | (1 << 16) |
20:46:41 | austriancoder | bits 0 - 15 are for rx and 16-31for tx |
20:47:05 | petur | bah... /me idiot |
20:47:58 | austriancoder | so endpoint 0 tx ;) |
20:48:15 | petur | yes yes I got it ;) |
20:50:17 | amiconn | "Hardware will clear this bit when...." |
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20:55:30 | petur | hey... |
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21:06:34 | Genre9mp3 | scary mentor perhaps? :P |
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21:07:44 | petur | I wonder if I'm in a good mood to fill in his evaluation now... :p |
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21:17:40 | imbecile | where the heck do i find the rockbox bootloader for an ipod 5g? |
21:18:10 | imbecile | ive been digging around the page for a half an hour |
21:18:39 | Domonoky_ | imbecile: you use ipodpatcher, or rbutil for installing the bootloader.. |
21:18:57 | Battousai | now now, no need to call him names |
21:19:03 | imbecile | heh |
21:19:04 | petur | lol |
21:19:16 | Domonoky_ | ipodpatcher has the bootloader built in.. and rbutil downloads it.. |
21:19:43 | imbecile | Domonoky_, thanks :) i was reading manual and i didnt see that |
21:19:50 | Domonoky_ | :-) |
21:21:55 | imbecile | that is awesome its even ported for ubuntu feisty... yayyy!!! |
21:23:06 | Domonoky_ | rbutil is still not ready, thats why it isnt in the manual.. but it will get there sometime.. :-) |
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21:25:06 | imbecile | Domonoky_e , so do you recommend using the ipodpatcher? yeah i noticed it said i needed dependencies i already have |
21:25:17 | imbecile | rbutil that is |
21:25:49 | Domonoky_ | no, i recommend rbutil ( i wrote a good part of it ) *hehe* |
21:26:22 | Domonoky_ | but it needs more polishing to get the official install method.. |
21:28:19 | imbecile | Domonoky_, wonder why it says i have unsatisfed dependencies libwxbase2.8-0bwhen i have it for feisty install |
21:29:18 | Domonoky_ | imbecile: sorry i didnt made the linux package, so i dont know.. |
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21:30:29 | imbecile | perhaps ill try the win rbutil on another box |
21:31:51 | imbecile | hehe i get all confused using 3 keyboard and 3 mice.. ubuntu,freeBSD and now windows heh |
21:32:26 | Domonoky_ | :-) |
21:34:45 | GodEater | Domonoky_: what still needs polishing in your opinion ? |
21:35:56 | Domonoky_ | i think the install menüs needs more info, like when to have the DAP mounted, and such things.. |
21:36:12 | GodEater | so not more functionality as such |
21:36:23 | GodEater | just a bit of slickness to the UI presentation ? |
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21:36:41 | Domonoky_ | yes especially more info :-) |
21:36:58 | GodEater | is anyone working on that with you ? |
21:37:03 | Ratty____ | Can rockbox read /chm files out of the box ? |
21:37:07 | Ratty____ | .chm* |
21:37:14 | Domonoky_ | not that i know, and my time is ver limited.. |
21:37:19 | Domonoky_ | +y |
21:37:51 | imbecile | win rbutil is working flawlessly over here |
21:37:56 | Ratty____ | Okay, just making sure... I didn't know if I should convert it to pdf or not |
21:38:09 | GodEater | Ratty____: it won't read .pdf either |
21:38:29 | Domonoky_ | Ratty____: rockbox, cant read chm and no pdf, only text files :-) |
21:39:49 | Ratty____ | GodEater_ I believe it can read ebooks -> pdf files, because there was a patch out that I compiled my rockbox build with |
21:40:14 | GodEater | Ratty____: ah - you did say "out of the box" however ;) |
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21:40:41 | GodEater | stripwax: oi! What happened to you last night ? |
21:41:15 | GodEater | Ratty____: do you have FS number for this patch ? I've just searched and get no hits for pdf |
21:41:33 | Ratty____ | Godeater, give me a second |
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21:42:41 | stripwax | GodEater - was sick , had to go home :-( |
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21:42:54 | stripwax | Sorry - but definitely next time! Assuming I'm well |
21:43:12 | GodEater | stripwax: that's a shame - I was just getting over a cold myself actually |
21:43:23 | GodEater | think the beer poisoned all the germs - felt much better when I got home :) |
21:43:27 | stripwax | heh :) |
21:43:31 | stripwax | and a curry too i hear |
21:43:36 | GodEater | yep that as well |
21:43:58 | GodEater | dan_a is suggesting the 25th for the next one |
21:44:03 | imbecile | Domonoky_e , the win version of rbutil works very slick imo |
21:44:03 | GodEater | is that doable for you ? |
21:44:13 | stripwax | day of the week? |
21:44:17 | GodEater | ummmm |
21:44:18 | dan_a | Wednesday |
21:44:26 | stripwax | Sounds perfect |
21:44:36 | GodEater | yep |
21:44:46 | imbecile | bah im sick too you guys.. head cold with body ache? |
21:44:51 | stripwax | yep |
21:45:02 | GodEater | imbecile: yep - went in a couple of days tho |
21:45:05 | GodEater | short and sharp |
21:45:09 | stripwax | and the whole headache / can't concentrate / crap too |
21:45:44 | imbecile | well i can tell you it has reached califorinias coast if you guys live far away |
21:46:01 | GodEater | imbecile: pretty far from there yes |
21:46:14 | GodEater | one continent and an ocean to be precise |
21:46:32 | imbecile | wow thats amazing |
21:47:08 | GodEater | not really - jet travel spreads disease pretty effectively |
21:47:09 | imbecile | i didnt think they traveled that fast and so prevelent |
21:47:23 | dan_a | I hope nobody brings it over here |
21:47:37 | GodEater | dan_a: don't they quarantine people ? :) |
21:47:48 | dan_a | I wish! |
21:47:52 | GodEater | unless they're riding a motorbike of course |
21:47:58 | imbecile | GodEater, yeah thats the only way it would travel so quick |
21:48:18 | GodEater | No doubt Febs is taken my version of it with him back to Philadelphia :( |
21:48:21 | stripwax | dan_a - you're not in uk? |
21:48:33 | GodEater | stripwax: think motorbikes |
21:48:40 | dan_a | stripwax: Technically, no |
21:48:43 | GodEater | hehehe |
21:48:48 | dan_a | But I'm in the British Isles |
21:49:02 | GodEater | too big a clue |
21:49:08 | dan_a | And I was kayaking beside a 15 foot shark half an hour ago :D |
21:49:15 | GodEater | Basking ? |
21:49:30 | * | stripwax is pretty clueless but assumes either Ireland or one of those crazy islands off the coast |
21:49:39 | GodEater | stripwax: Isle of man |
21:49:50 | stripwax | oh. motorbikes. right. |
21:49:50 | dan_a | GodEater: Yes. There was another one about half a mile away which was more like 20 foot too |
21:49:56 | * | stripwax is, indeed, thick after all |
21:50:02 | GodEater | I'd love to see one up close |
21:50:17 | stripwax | So, Manx Spirit turns out to be one of my favourite drinks |
21:50:23 | imbecile | rbutils error for themes for ipod 5g failed |
21:50:33 | dan_a | stripwax: I've not tried it yet |
21:50:44 | GodEater | imbecile: not all the themes are well enough put together for rbutil to handle properly sadly |
21:50:47 | dan_a | But I'll bring a bottle over to London |
21:50:48 | stripwax | dan_a - it's pretty .. raw .. |
21:50:49 | GodEater | imbecile: we're trying to fix them |
21:50:54 | stripwax | heh, cool |
21:50:58 | GodEater | imbecile: but it's a slow process |
21:51:11 | imbecile | GodEater, i hear ya |
21:51:19 | GodEater | wth is Manx Spirit then ? |
21:51:24 | GodEater | some sort of whisky ? |
21:51:44 | * | GodEater wonders if Badger will manage T-Shirts this time |
21:52:08 | Bagder | I'll try |
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21:52:11 | GodEater | hehee |
21:52:14 | dan_a | GodEater: I think it is, but it's clear |
21:52:29 | stripwax | Yep, tastes a bit like grappa I thought |
21:52:35 | GodEater | dan_a: more moonshine then |
21:52:40 | stripwax | yeah |
21:52:48 | GodEater | grappa? euch - you're on your own there |
21:52:51 | stripwax | www.mans-spirit.com |
21:52:53 | dan_a | GodEater: http://www.manx-spirit.com/manx.htm |
21:52:53 | stripwax | manx |
21:53:02 | * | bluebrother heared about t-shirts ... |
21:53:28 | * | dan_a wonders if its too let for him to get a t-shirt |
21:53:33 | GodEater | bluebrother: you coming to London too ? |
21:53:35 | dan_a | s/let/late |
21:53:41 | bluebrother | hmm. What date? |
21:53:45 | GodEater | dan_a: not really - Bagder never sent them in the first place :) |
21:53:45 | Bagder | dan_a: what size do you prefer? |
21:53:55 | GodEater | bluebrother: 25th July |
21:53:55 | dan_a | Bagder: Medium |
21:53:58 | bluebrother | but I fear money will prohibit me going :( |
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21:54:26 | GodEater | Febs spent all his holiday money on new clothes - poor man |
21:54:32 | stripwax | Bagder - any remaining tshirts? |
21:54:40 | stripwax | GodEater - that sucks |
21:54:43 | Bagder | stripwax: size? |
21:54:51 | Bagder | I'll include one for you |
21:54:55 | stripwax | Medium if you have one, thanks! |
21:55:10 | GodEater | Bagder's "Rockbox people t-shirt size spreadsheet" must be enormous by now |
21:55:22 | stripwax | :-) |
21:55:36 | * | bluebrother wants a shirt ... |
21:55:40 | Bagder | I wish I was that organized... I have that info spread out in 14 different text files on 7 different hosts ;-) |
21:55:46 | GodEater | hahahaha |
21:56:08 | * | stripwax should actually go and do some more rockbox coding.. |
21:56:29 | Bagder | stripwax: one when you said that, you can only get a shirt if you go and do more rockbox coding ;-P |
21:57:02 | Bagder | (and pretend that first "one" was written as "now") |
21:57:27 | bluebrother | damn. Flights are too expensive. |
21:57:43 | bluebrother | well, let's see when I manage to visit London for a couple of days ... |
21:57:48 | stripwax | bah! ok, what needs doing to finish this patch off http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/7218 |
21:57:56 | * | bluebrother should get paid work |
21:58:11 | Bagder | GodEater, stripwax, linuxstb_: I take it you won't mind if I add some cool blue coffee cups to the package? |
21:58:30 | * | stripwax won't mind a jot |
21:58:35 | Bagder | hehe |
21:59:02 | bluebrother | how much events will we have coming up? Any chance to have leftovers this year? |
21:59:28 | Bagder | there are leftovers, sure and I'll deal with them sometime in August I think |
21:59:43 | Bagder | I'll be on vacation pretty much the whole july |
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22:00:01 | * | bluebrother marks august in his calendar |
22:01:42 | GodEater | bluebrother: if you add an actual date to the "London Social Meet" forum thread when you know it - we'll organise something for when you're over |
22:02:08 | Bagder | btw, this far in July 2007 the top-5 most downloaded zips from build.rockbox.org, are: |
22:02:43 | Bagder | ipod video 5851, ipod video 64MB 2850, sansa e200 2795, ipod nano 2562, h300 1099 |
22:03:03 | GodEater | Bagder: is that just the one host ? |
22:03:12 | Bagder | the build host is just one |
22:03:20 | Bagder | that's not the download one |
22:03:26 | GodEater | ah of course |
22:03:40 | petur | hmmmm... file.c line 534 could explain why recording on a full disk causes a corrupt file... the error is just ignored :/ |
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22:04:11 | bluebrother | GodEater: no idea when I'll make it to London (I planned doing so for several years now :( but I'll notify you guys when I make it ;-) |
22:04:20 | * | GodEater remembers perhaps the most amusing part of DevConPub was watching Febs try to dismantle an iPod with a Guitar pick |
22:04:32 | GodEater | bluebrother: cool - just let us know :) |
22:04:34 | bluebrother | hehe. |
22:04:39 | stripwax | in a crowded pub? sounds like a sport! |
22:04:47 | GodEater | hehe - he failed dismally |
22:04:56 | GodEater | we did have a table to work on - it didn't help much |
22:05:02 | GodEater | a valiant effort though |
22:05:24 | GodEater | our "tower of rockbox" didn't happen either sadly |
22:05:28 | GodEater | we'll have to do that next time |
22:05:29 | Bagder | GodEater: I believe not that many people download builds from the download mirrors. yday on the videolan mirror the top downloaded image was ipodcolor 20070101, downloaded 205 times |
22:05:45 | GodEater | Bagder: that's not much at all |
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22:05:57 | bluebrother | did noone videotape it? ;-) |
22:06:01 | Bagder | that's almost nothing compared to the build.* numbers |
22:06:05 | GodEater | is it only archived builds on the download servers |
22:06:14 | Bagder | yes |
22:06:15 | fm2 | petur: morning! |
22:06:16 | GodEater | bluebrother: sadly no - we all had our hands full with beer glasses |
22:06:17 | GodEater | :) |
22:06:22 | bluebrother | hmm, wouldn't it be interesting to see the download numbers for unsupported builds? |
22:06:29 | Bagder | yes it would |
22:06:30 | stripwax | Anyone had a chance to look at the codec failures when running test_codec on mixed codecs? |
22:06:33 | bluebrother | GodEater: well, that's a good alternative *g* |
22:06:38 | petur | hi fm2 |
22:06:40 | stripwax | I think I've found a similar bug, unrelated to test_codec |
22:06:46 | GodEater | bluebrother: we certainly thought so |
22:06:48 | fm2 | petur: wanna resume the discussion about the file exts? |
22:07:07 | petur | sure, let me wrap my head around it again ;) |
22:07:24 | * | stripwax tries to reproduce it |
22:07:34 | fm2 | petur: ok, how long would you need? |
22:07:58 | petur | not much, don't run away ;) |
22:08:28 | * | GodEater decides to try to knock the dregs of his cold on the head by having an early night. |
22:08:53 | fm2 | petur: we could have four options: show always, never, hide for supported, and the current behaviour (can't come up with a good name) |
22:08:57 | imbecile | hey, if i enable disk mode can i just drag all my music over? |
22:09:18 | stripwax | yep |
22:09:41 | fm2 | petur: the last option would hide all if the file filter is not set to "All" and show all otherwise |
22:10:00 | petur | yes I know ;) |
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22:10:34 | imbecile | stripwax, where would i drag it to? i am running a fresh install |
22:10:46 | stripwax | imbecile - go crazy, put it wherever you like! |
22:10:48 | imbecile | and im nub ;P |
22:10:55 | stripwax | I just create a folder called Music and put it in there |
22:11:04 | petur | fm2: I'm not sure if we need the 'hide supported' - it is the same as for 'show supported files' |
22:11:06 | imbecile | ahhh thats easy enough |
22:11:16 | stripwax | imbecile - what device do you have? (guessing ipod) |
22:11:29 | petur | fm2: so my actual proposal really still stands :) |
22:11:36 | imbecile | stripwax, hehe good guess yeah its a 5g |
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22:12:18 | fm2 | petur: not exactly. If the filter is set to "All"... |
22:13:09 | stripwax | imbecile - if you want to use iTunes or the original Apple firmware on your ipod, you probably want to be a bit different. I never use iTunes or Apple firmware, (I'm just Rockbox), so what works for me might not work best for you ..! |
22:13:20 | fm2 | petur: ah, you mean that "hide known" should do exactly what it does now? |
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22:13:31 | petur | yes |
22:13:32 | stripwax | meaning : if you put it in a Music folder, iTunes won't see it |
22:14:29 | fm2 | petur: ok. But the name is somewhat misleading |
22:14:45 | petur | fm2: I know |
22:14:58 | imbecile | stripwax, im a linux user so no itunes for me |
22:15:43 | stripwax | even easier :) |
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22:15:58 | fm2 | petur: ok. Everything is clear now. |
22:17:47 | imbecile | stripwax, so i drag it over to .rockbox directory? or the highest directory in the tree? |
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22:18:11 | petur | fm2: great.. shouldn't be too hard to implement ;) |
22:18:26 | bluebrother | imbecile: you can put the music files anywhere on the player |
22:18:40 | imbecile | cool deal thanks |
22:18:49 | bluebrother | for myself, I have a folder "Music", so it gets /media/ipod/Music on linux |
22:19:03 | fm2 | petur: hmm... I now think that we still could need "Hide for known". Imagine that you've set the filter to "All" and go browsing your music folder. There, (almost) all files are of supported types, so you wouldn't want to see the exts. But if you go to an "exotic" folder with some .doc etc files you (or I) would like to see the exts. |
22:19:05 | bluebrother | and then I put my (folder-sorted) music there. |
22:19:37 | stripwax | imbecile - yep, anywhere. in fact probably best to leave the contents of .rockbox alone, just create a new top-level directory |
22:20:07 | stripwax | fm2 - desktop.ini ? ;-) |
22:20:22 | petur | fm2: yes, but code-wise it is probably more than the current proposal, and I don't know if it is worth a lot of bytes |
22:20:41 | fm2 | stripwax: :-) yes, that too |
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22:20:47 | petur | the 3 option thing should be fairly easy to do - little code to add |
22:20:48 | imbecile | yayyy... now to transfer 54GB of music ;P |
22:21:03 | stripwax | wowzer. 60GB or 80GB ipod/ |
22:21:18 | * | petur summons somebody to talk about firmware/common/file.c |
22:21:22 | imbecile | 60gb i have it pretty much full |
22:21:23 | bluebrother | well, there is also the problem with i18n if we allow subfolders to sort the plugins directory |
22:21:28 | fm2 | petur: yes, that would require file per file analysis |
22:21:40 | bluebrother | desktop.ini could be used to translate ... |
22:21:55 | stripwax | imbecile - brand-new ipod or just upgrading Apple to rockbox? |
22:22:03 | petur | fm2: which is why I wouldn't do it |
22:22:07 | imbecile | just upgrading |
22:22:21 | imbecile | imma triple boot it with isl as well |
22:22:26 | stripwax | imbecile - did you reformat? if not you itunes-uploaded music should already be on there still |
22:22:47 | imbecile | pfffttt... i dont use itunes hehehe |
22:23:00 | fm2 | petur: ok, I'll stick with three options and if someone complains... we'll ask him/her to provide a patch −− as always! :-) |
22:23:02 | imbecile | yeah i reformatted |
22:23:06 | stripwax | ah ok |
22:23:48 | petur | fm2: I really wouldn't risk creating bloat of a fairly obscure feature |
22:23:48 | stripwax | imbecile - boot into Apple OS before you do the transfer - Apple OS supports USB2 transfers, diskmode probably only USB1 speeds ... |
22:24:10 | amiconn | stripwax: test_codec is shaky in general. With voice enabled, it crashes 100% reproducably on exit. On H1x0 I get an IllInstr exception |
22:24:49 | amiconn | stripwax: Diskmode is definitely faster than USB1.1 (factor of 2..2.5) |
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22:25:12 | DanHibiki | Hello everyone, is anyone having the same problem on nano as I reported here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11504.0 ? |
22:25:18 | stripwax | amiconn - I'm just getting a fresh build from build.rockbox.org but what I saw today was a codec error just playing files from browser , want to see if i can reproduce. sounds unrelated then though if test_codec is just shaky.. |
22:25:37 | stripwax | amiconn - hm, curious. wonder why it's slower than apple os |
22:25:46 | amiconn | But it seems the observed sluggishness when installing a build is not only due to limited transfer speed |
22:26:12 | stripwax | ? |
22:26:27 | * | amiconn will do an expeeriment - just a moment |
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22:32:24 | stripwax | Ok. With Auto Change Directory turned on, play the last track in a folder , and then go back from the WPS to the file browser. when that last track finishing playing, rockbox spews codec failures - "Couldn't Load Codec /.rockbox/codecs/@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ (@ is a square) |
22:32:29 | stripwax | if that makes sense |
22:32:32 | stripwax | known bug? |
22:33:04 | low_light | anyone understand the h10/e200 bootloader...I'm trying to get it to load rockbox on my my m:robe :) |
22:33:18 | stripwax | That's a fresh build, ipod 5g 64mb. Works fine if I leave it on hte wps |
22:33:32 | low_light | I can use it to boot the OF, but it does nothing when trying to boot rockbox |
22:34:56 | Bagder | low_light: are you using mi4 files? |
22:35:14 | low_light | yes |
22:36:01 | amiconn | stripwax: My impression was indeed correct: While ipod video diskmode achieves a transfer speed of 2..2.5MByte/s with large files, it's _signifcantly_ slower at transferring many small files than a pure USB1.1 device with a hardware bridge (archos player in my case) |
22:36:02 | low_light | the bootloader reports that the crc's match, but it just hangs after exiting the bootloader |
22:37:07 | low_light | I tried putting a blinking light sequence in entry point in main.c, but the led's never blink |
22:38:19 | Bagder | ! |
22:38:28 | stripwax | amiconn - not sure what that indicates, diskmode just has a higher overhead than regular apple os? (because apple os sure seems faster than diskmode). cpu speed? |
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22:39:11 | Bagder | low_light: so what is the last printf() it shows? |
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22:39:27 | amiconn | Unzipping an ipod video build to the ipod video (with the old build removed first) took 106 seconds, while unzipping the very same build to a subdir on the archos player only took 26 seconds (!!) |
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22:41:06 | Rincewind | stripwax: about the codec failure, this is known, I reported it a few months ago |
22:41:19 | Rincewind | nothing happened so far. |
22:41:21 | stripwax | ah, ok |
22:41:38 | low_light | Bagder: says "Calculated CRC32: xxxxx" (which matches mi4header.crc32) |
22:41:59 | Rincewind | stripwax: I get this on my iriver |
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22:42:37 | stripwax | Rincewind - do you know if its reproducible on sim? |
22:42:39 | * | stripwax tries |
22:43:22 | dan_a | low_light: What if you blink the light from crt0-pp.S? |
22:44:00 | Rincewind | this is my bug report: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5797 |
22:44:12 | stripwax | ta |
22:44:54 | stripwax | wow, that's a year ago .. |
22:45:27 | amiconn | mmmmm, and doing the same with apple os takes 47 seconds... weird |
22:45:32 | Rincewind | do you get it in the sim? |
22:46:21 | low_light | dan_a: I will have to try that |
22:46:31 | stripwax | Rincewind - had to rebuild, will know in a sec |
22:47:05 | * | Rincewind copies a few folders of music in his simbuild |
22:47:26 | amiconn | ...and to prove that it's not a problem of the 1.8"hdd, same thing to my H180 takes 8 seconds |
22:48:00 | * | bluebrother wonders if there is an irssi script around that automatically kills ghost nicks ... |
22:48:07 | * | amiconn hugs hardware usb support |
22:48:08 | stripwax | amiconn - wowzer. |
22:48:23 | * | stripwax remembers why he still loves his h120 |
22:48:32 | * | bluebrother too :) |
22:50:21 | stripwax | Rincewind, can't seem to repro on sim |
22:52:09 | Rincewind | waiting for the song to finish... |
22:52:52 | Rincewind | my sim doesn't change directories |
22:53:06 | stripwax | Settings? |
22:53:44 | Rincewind | should be standard, but I'm not sure |
22:53:58 | Rincewind | ok, it is changing |
22:54:05 | Rincewind | without problems |
22:54:16 | stripwax | yeh, sim seems ok |
22:54:47 | Rincewind | I would have liked to look at this in gdb :( |
22:54:52 | * | amiconn wonders whether the mini suffers from the same problem |
22:55:00 | * | amiconn will test soon |
22:55:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: Are you unzipping from Windows or Linux? |
22:55:37 | amiconn | windows |
22:55:54 | * | amiconn doesn't trust linux usb support anymore |
22:56:15 | linuxstb | 8 seconds sounds about right to unzip a build to my ipods (from Linux). |
22:57:07 | linuxstb | (mount ; unzip ; umount) |
22:57:24 | Rincewind | I think that unzipping is faster for me |
22:57:56 | bluebrother | well, wouldn't that also be dependent on the fragmentation of the hard disk? ;-) |
22:58:09 | Rincewind | but this could be the cache, because umounting is taking a little time afterwards |
22:58:31 | linuxstb | I always use a "mount ; unzip; umount" script to do the unzipping (I disable automount) |
22:58:32 | bluebrother | then it is cache. |
22:58:42 | amiconn | Unzipping to the mini G2 takes 16 seconds, which is reasonable given that it's only a microdrive |
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22:59:33 | bluebrother | btw: has someone else notices a great speed dropdown on mini2g if there is an usb disc connected? |
22:59:37 | amiconn | I always have write caching disabled for usb storage (which is the standard setting on windows anyway) |
22:59:55 | linuxstb | Just tested for my ipod Color - 2.7s to mount, unzip and umount rockbox-full.zip |
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23:00:18 | amiconn | linuxstb: Now try the same with the video - I expect it to be a whole lot slower |
23:00:43 | amiconn | Btw, I am testing with the very same build zip, to an empty subdir on the various devices |
23:01:43 | * | amiconn doesn't understand bluebrother's question |
23:01:44 | * | linuxstb goes to look for his video |
23:02:15 | imbecile | where should i put my music folder on an ipod 5g video so it plays nice with appleOS while in disk mode? |
23:02:18 | bluebrother | well, I have a usb disk. If I have this connected the same time as the mini, transfers to the mini get crawling slow. |
23:02:32 | stripwax | imbecile anywhere, won't matter |
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23:03:02 | imbecile | stripwax, appleOS still detects the music? |
23:03:08 | stripwax | imbecile - it won't.. |
23:03:30 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
23:03:54 | imbecile | ouch, so its either rockbox or appleOS? |
23:04:10 | imbecile | i kinda wanted bot working |
23:04:12 | amiconn | bluebrother: Hmm, odd. Never saw that effect here (with up to 3 rockboxes hooked up to usb at the same time) |
23:04:19 | stripwax | imbecile - not quite - appleOS only 'sees' music uploaded via itunes (or whatever the linux equivalent is) |
23:04:24 | stripwax | rockbox can see that too |
23:04:38 | stripwax | Simple drag+drop will *not* be 'seen' by appleOS |
23:04:46 | stripwax | no matter where you put it .. (blame Apple) |
23:04:52 | PaulJam | imbecile: if you want to use both, then transfer music with itunes and use the database in rockbox |
23:05:16 | imbecile | ahhhhh.. cool deal |
23:05:44 | linuxstb | amiconn: About 4.8s (+/- 0.1s) on my video (30GB 5G) |
23:05:52 | imbecile | how do i boot into appleOS in 5g? |
23:05:59 | stripwax | imbecile - i gotta ask - if you already had a full ipod, with music transfererd on by itunes, why did you reformat it? |
23:06:11 | stripwax | imbecile - leave hold switch in hold position when turning it on |
23:06:24 | imbecile | stripwax, I was trying to install ipl |
23:06:46 | stripwax | does ipl require a reformat? yuk |
23:06:55 | * | amiconn has a suspicion what causes the significant slowness here |
23:07:00 | imbecile | you have to reformat to install ipl on video and mini |
23:07:17 | amiconn | This is a G5.5, and the 2048byte logical sectors might be the cause |
23:07:43 | linuxstb | I would be curious to see if the speed is different under Linux. |
23:08:04 | amiconn | Sure, because of dangerous write caching |
23:08:13 | stripwax | amiconn - hm, my 5g (60gb) is slow too though |
23:08:16 | linuxstb | Dangerous? |
23:08:21 | amiconn | *I* wouldn't trust it though without verify |
23:08:40 | * | linuxstb has never experienced corrupted disks with Linux USB |
23:09:01 | amiconn | Yes, as I prefer to be able to just pull the plug, and will certainly forget to unmount very often |
23:09:03 | Bagder | me neither |
23:09:23 | Bagder | I've done all my rockbox dev on linux usb since day 0 |
23:09:26 | linuxstb | I think of mounting disks the same as being root - I only mount them when I need to, then umount immediately afterwards. |
23:09:50 | linuxstb | The rest of the time they are charging (if they can) |
23:10:02 | crwl | i have developed the habit of typing "sync" once or twice to the terminal before unplugging |
23:11:34 | imbecile | stripwax, what is hold switch? |
23:11:52 | amiconn | Anyway, I try to stay away from the linux+usb combination. I don't know what's up with the usb ports on this box, but it corrupted files without notice when copying ~10GB of flac. Not one file - many of them |
23:12:17 | stripwax | imbecile - the one on the top of your ipod!! |
23:12:20 | linuxstb | imbecile: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60951 |
23:12:32 | stripwax | nice link |
23:13:03 | linuxstb | http://www.google.com/search?q=ipod+hold+switch |
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23:13:31 | pixelma | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-220003.1.1 though it doesn't say "switch" |
23:13:43 | * | linuxstb decides to refer all questions to google |
23:16:08 | bluebrother | do we have pcb scans of the mini around somewhere? |
23:16:44 | * | amiconn should have some photos |
23:17:08 | DanHibiki | So it seems I am the only one with this weird Rockbox behaviour on Nano... |
23:17:38 | stripwax | mm, which behavior? |
23:18:00 | DanHibiki | the one I described on this topic: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11504.0 |
23:18:06 | pixelma | bluebrother: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IPodMini2GInfo ;) |
23:18:23 | DanHibiki | basically I'm getting corruption on the file system now |
23:18:47 | bluebrother | pixelma: d'oh! Looks I was blind in some way :o |
23:20:32 | linuxstb | DanHibiki: Have you tested for a long period of time with AppleOS? As no-one else seems to be reporting it, I can only guess it's an intermittent hardware problem with your Nano. |
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23:21:37 | DanHibiki | I don't use AppleOS as much as I use Rockbox, but it doesn't have any problems when I use it |
23:21:45 | linuxstb | Febs: Hi. Back home now? |
23:21:54 | imbecile | im still not sure i know how to boot into appleos with a 5g ipod |
23:22:11 | Febs | linuxstb: just walked in the door. |
23:22:14 | linuxstb | imbecile: Turn the hold switch on _immediately_ after you turn your ipod on. |
23:22:55 | DanHibiki | my impression is that those cpu related changes on Rockbox generated this behaviour, since an older build runs just fine |
23:23:01 | imbecile | linuxstb, yayy thanks |
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23:24:11 | linuxstb | DanHibiki: So 2007-07-03 works fine, but 2007-07-04 causes corruption? |
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23:25:03 | DanHibiki | linuxstb: yes, but in most cases, it doesn't even boot properly (doesn't recognize any files on my ipod) |
23:26:02 | amiconn | Builds between 2007-07-04 and 2007-07-07 might cause unexpected behaviour on ipod video and nano |
23:26:09 | amiconn | Use 2007-07-08 or later |
23:26:51 | DanHibiki | right now I'm using one from revision 13855, which is from... yesterday maybe? |
23:26:54 | amiconn | Clock handling still isn't 100% correct (but better than before July 3) |
23:27:58 | linuxstb | DanHibiki: If the 3rd July works, but 4th July doesn't, then AFAICS, it's not CPU clock related - the 2007-07-03 build was made around 6am on the 3rd, and the 2007-07-04 was made around 6am on the 4th. You can see what changes were made here - http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html |
23:29:32 | DanHibiki | whops! sorry, it is from 2007-07-02 |
23:29:47 | DanHibiki | my bad =( |
23:29:56 | linuxstb | So 2007-07-03 causes problems? |
23:30:01 | DanHibiki | yes |
23:30:08 | DanHibiki | I can check, if you want |
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23:30:32 | linuxstb | It would be useful to confirm exactly when the problem started (and that the very latest Current Build still causes the problem) |
23:31:06 | DanHibiki | okay, I was thinking of restoring my ipod, but I'm not sure how helpful it could be |
23:31:28 | linuxstb | Yes, you really need to do 1) Restore ipod; 2) Test a build; 3) Repeat from 1) |
23:31:43 | DanHibiki | okay, I'm gonna do it |
23:32:04 | DanHibiki | installing the bootloader from rbutil is fine, right? |
23:32:08 | DanHibiki | or should i use ipodpatcher? |
23:32:22 | linuxstb | They should be identical (rbutil uses the same code as ipodpatcher) |
23:32:49 | DanHibiki | okay, i'm gonna run some tests |
23:34:18 | * | linuxstb wonders if saratoga has spotted the yellow |
23:34:33 | petur | he should have, by now ;) |
23:38:18 | Febs | Presenting ... the Rockbox London Social Event: http://tinyurl.com/2znrjy |
23:39:00 | Bagder | what, no tower of rockbox? ;-P |
23:39:24 | Febs | It's a shame we remembered that after Mrs. Febs had already taken the camera back to the hotel. |
23:40:09 | Febs | Of course, by that point, I think that our motor skills had probably declined enough that building a tower would have been a risky proposition. |
23:40:16 | XavierGr | how many people showed up in the end? |
23:40:20 | Febs | 4. |
23:40:39 | XavierGr | is there a wiki page with the stuff that happened there? :P |
23:40:43 | Febs | In the photo, from L to R, linuxstb, GodEater, me. |
23:40:58 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Drunk beer, ate curry, went home. |
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23:41:03 | Febs | Someone else showed up later. I can't remember his name. |
23:41:36 | * | petur wonders if Febs could put some names on the picture |
23:42:15 | XavierGr | it must be quite nice to be in a place with rockbox junkies together :D |
23:42:23 | Febs | It was a good time. |
23:42:23 | dan_a | GodEater looks like a more normal version of a guy I know |
23:42:35 | linuxstb | Don't let looks fool you... |
23:43:33 | dan_a | "More normal" is relative |
23:43:56 | linuxstb | I'm not sure I can make the 25th July - but can probably make both days either side. |
23:45:11 | dan_a | I'm on a course and in my experience the Thursday is generally beerday - but the Tuesday should be fine |
23:45:14 | linuxstb | Febs: Has your bag arrived with you? |
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23:45:38 | webguest06 | Hello is anyone there? |
23:45:42 | petur | nope |
23:45:56 | webguest06 | I could do with some help, im a complete noob |
23:46:12 | webguest06 | i would like to put rockbox on my 30g Videos Ipod |
23:46:20 | dan_a | What do you need help with? |
23:46:22 | linuxstb | What's the problem (but be prepared to be referred to the manual) |
23:46:28 | Febs | linuxstb: yes, my bag arrived at some point after we went to the pub last night. Just in time for me to have to carry it home. |
23:46:29 | webguest06 | Could anyone help me please? i have tried the manual but its very complicated for a noob liek myself |
23:46:38 | Febs | webguest06: just ask your question. |
23:46:53 | * | linuxstb recalls the conversation in the pub last night ;) |
23:47:04 | * | Febs was thinking the same thing. |
23:47:10 | webguest06 | If i go wrong atall, will i be able to return to my original ipod settings? |
23:47:16 | Febs | Yes. |
23:47:17 | * | bluebrother notices XavierGr |
23:47:17 | webguest06 | i cant completely break my ipod trying? |
23:47:20 | dan_a | No |
23:47:23 | webguest06 | ok great |
23:47:28 | DanHibiki | linuxstb: tested 2007-07-03, got corrupted filenames after a few reboots and on some reboots Rockbox couldn't find any files, and complained about no .rockbox directory and installation incomplete |
23:47:35 | bluebrother | XavierGr: seen my pm? |
23:47:45 | linuxstb | webguest06: The worst that can happen is that you will need to restore your ipod with itunes. |
23:47:48 | webguest06 | What is the first step i must take? |
23:47:50 | DanHibiki | you can see a picture from the corrupted filenames here: http://i13.tinypic.com/54cks9f.png |
23:48:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: Is there a clever macro check that tells us we're compiling rockbox? |
23:48:24 | DanHibiki | gonna try the latest build now |
23:48:38 | bluebrother | Febs: who's who on that picture? |
23:48:52 | webguest06 | The first steph of the guide says about a tezt editor, do i need to download this? |
23:48:54 | amiconn | (thinking about committting my unaligned optimisation for libwma with a clear check for rockbox) |
23:48:55 | webguest06 | step* |
23:49:09 | linuxstb | amiconn: I seem to recall a -DROCKBOX somewhere, but I may be imagining it... |
23:49:30 | stripwax | bluebrother - Febs already said! |
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23:49:52 | linuxstb | (or maybe I added that myself to the APE codec Makefile - you could do the same for libwma's Makefile) |
23:50:19 | stripwax | webguest06 - what operating system do you use? Windows perhaps? If so, you can use Wordpad. It's a text editor. |
23:50:29 | webguest06 | Note that the entire contents of the .zip file should be extracted directly to the root of your player’s drive - what does it mean by the root of your players drive? |
23:50:31 | Bagder | I can't recall any rockbox define during the build |
23:50:38 | webguest06 | I use wordpad yes |
23:50:40 | Bagder | we could of course easily add one |
23:50:45 | stripwax | webguest - argh. Google for "root directory" |
23:50:52 | dan_a | webguest06: If your iPod is E:\ then extract to E:\ |
23:51:06 | dan_a | (not E:\rockbox\ or anything) |
23:51:10 | webguest06 | ok |
23:51:17 | webguest06 | done that |
23:51:18 | linuxstb | Bagder: Yes, it was me adding it to the APE Makefile... |
23:51:30 | stripwax | webguest06 - then follow the rest of the instructions.. |
23:51:30 | XavierGr | bluebrother: just replied :D |
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23:51:52 | bluebrother | stripwax: oh −− seems I'm really blind today :o |
23:51:56 | stripwax | .. |
23:52:10 | * | stripwax wonders if we can make the instructions any more clear. pictures maybe? |
23:52:29 | linuxstb | Bagder: But yes, it could be useful. We could change those __PCTOOL__ defines to use !ROCKBOX instead. |
23:52:36 | petur | inflatable dev to do it for you? |
23:52:49 | Febs | stripwax: pictures of what? |
23:52:54 | webguest06 | Ok il just try this, im afraid i break my ipod but im assured it call all be fized? |
23:52:55 | stripwax | anything |
23:52:59 | webguest06 | fixed* |
23:53:02 | stripwax | yeah it can all be fized ;-) |
23:53:04 | DanHibiki | linuxstb: latest build didn't detect .rockbox directory from the first boot |
23:53:09 | webguest06 | :D thanks alot guys |
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23:53:28 | Febs | webguest06: You might find it easier to use the Rockbox Utility: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility |
23:53:29 | DanHibiki | gonna reboot a few times and see what happens |
23:53:30 | Bagder | linuxstb: yes, and we'd have a defined way to do specific checks in codecs that might share code with other projects etc |
23:54:03 | Febs | bluebrother: in the picture, from L to R: (1) linuxstb, (2) GodEater, and (3) Febs. |
23:54:08 | stripwax | Febs - actual screenshots of windows and linux perhaps? ok, maybe not linux but I don't want to discriminate. |
23:54:36 | linuxstb | DanHibiki: And you did a restore before testing the current build? |
23:54:37 | stripwax | although rockbox utility is clearly the way forward. |
23:54:42 | bluebrother | Febs: thanks. Just found it by scrolling back. |
23:54:48 | linuxstb | stripwax: And Mac OS X... |
23:54:52 | bluebrother | maybe I should get some more sleep ;-) |
23:54:52 | stripwax | of course |
23:54:53 | DanHibiki | linuxstb: yes, restored |
23:55:17 | linuxstb | stripwax: IMO the time would be better spent improving rbutil |
23:55:22 | stripwax | true |
23:55:34 | stripwax | what are the rbutil issues right now |
23:56:01 | linuxstb | I think the main issue is that it needs more explanatory text telling the user what to do. |
23:56:07 | * | amiconn borrowed the libdemac approach for now |
23:56:36 | stripwax | isn't rbutil just a plug-in-your-mp3-player-and-hit-Go kind of affair? |
23:57:21 | linuxstb | Almost. But bootloader installation can be tricky - you may need to mount or unmount your device, find an original firmware file to patch, etc |
23:58:00 | stripwax | Happy to help test for ipod5g and h120.. |
23:58:03 | linuxstb | It also needs a little attention on Mac OS X - I've only done the bare mininum to make it work, but a few things (e.g. menus, icons) need adapting. |
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23:58:48 | stripwax | Hm, why is the .ini file a separate file for the Windows download |
23:58:50 | stripwax | ? |
23:58:51 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm, there's one place in bitstream.h where I have to check for a rockbox specific macro - CPU_COLDFIRE |