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| 00:03:55 | jhMikeS | saratoga: the shifter operand is a constant (#3) or some register shifted (r0, lsl #3). So add r0, r0, #3 or add r0, r0, r1, lsl #3 |
| 00:11:13 | saratoga | got it, unfortunately, my asm version is no faster then gcc's version |
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| 00:12:23 | Pro90 | hi |
| 00:12:48 | Pro90 | i have a iriver H340 with us firmware |
| 00:12:49 | jhMikeS | saratoga: watch out for memory stalls. something should go between a load and the register access. |
| 00:13:32 | Pro90 | can i also update to the EU firmware 1.29? |
| 00:13:59 | Pro90 | (i know that my player will never play DRM files...) |
| 00:14:01 | saratoga | jhMikeS: would you look at this? http://pastebin.ca/618345 |
| 00:14:11 | saratoga | am I doing anything stupid? |
| 00:14:22 | PaulJam | Pro90: you can, but you will permanently loose the ability to play DRM protected wma files. |
| 00:15:07 | Pro90 | yeah i know |
| 00:15:15 | Pro90 | how do i do it? |
| 00:15:34 | Pro90 | just download the firmware file? |
| 00:17:25 | Pro90 | ?? |
| 00:17:25 | jhMikeS | saratoga: you need to tell it about the carry flag? |
| 00:18:22 | PaulJam | Pro90: you just put the H300.hex to the root of your player and select the firmwareupdate from the menu (at least that is how it works on non us players) |
| 00:19:33 | jhMikeS | saratoga: also, I don't know if you could somehow use ldm/stm in some way instead of loading each word and storing the result individually |
| 00:19:33 | saratoga | jhMikeS: doesn't the "cc" handle that? |
| 00:20:08 | jhMikeS | I'm not sure why you'd need to preserve it. It it generating any code to do so? |
| 00:20:28 | saratoga | sorry, misunderstood |
| 00:20:37 | saratoga | i assumed I needed to tell it |
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| 00:47:45 | vehicle | is there a forum for the latest on the porting to zune? |
| 00:48:21 | vehicle | or the latest on the progress* |
| 00:50:34 | bluebrother | there is a thread in the New Ports forum |
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| 00:55:12 | saratoga | vehicle: so far as I know, the zune port is at the same point it was the day the zune launched |
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| 01:52:54 | homielowe | Anyone think this is repairable? http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toshiba-gigabeat-MES60VK-60-GB-NOT-FULLY-FUNTIONAL_W0QQitemZ120139832320QQihZ002QQcategoryZ98198QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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| 02:05:33 | pixelma | I think toffe82 would be the one to know best |
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| 02:15:47 | pixelma | ah, you already know that :) |
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| 03:35:03 | Davide-NYC | Since when does the gain setting on the H120 go all the way up th 52.5 dB? |
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| 03:35:09 | Davide-NYC | (internal mic) |
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| 04:10:49 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7430 <−− Bug report submitted! |
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| 04:49:10 | Soap | http://pastebin.ca/618633 |
| 04:50:25 | Soap | I _think_ I just had an odd "svn up" experience. Does anyone with more brains than me want to look at the pastebin link I pasted above and tell me if that looks normal? |
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| 04:51:43 | Soap | what's bugging me is that I know more than three files have changed in the last 9 svn revisions, yet "svn up" (if I'm reading it right) only updated three. |
| 04:53:19 | Soap | ok, I think I just answered my own question, yet raised a new one. |
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| 04:54:27 | Soap | what happened to SVN revisions 13870 71 72 73 74 69 and 68? |
| 04:55:37 | Soap | (lordy I can't type tonight.) forget I mentioned 13870, it's 68, 69, 71, 72, 73, 74 I don't see on the front page. |
| 04:57:05 | saratoga | that is a bit odd |
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| 05:02:21 | donutman25 | austriancoder: i'm trying to create a build with your latest patch for usb and i keep running into an error with linux2rb.h |
| 05:03:24 | Soul-Slayer | Someone mentioned that to him earlier, he forgot it or something, said he'd do something about it but it seems he didn't :p |
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| 05:44:00 | Soap | <bluebrother> hmm, wouldn't it be interesting to see the download numbers for unsupported builds? |
| 05:44:00 | Soap | <Bagder> yes it would |
| 05:44:10 | Soap | http://www.pastebin.ca/618671 |
| 05:44:28 | Soap | is a quick dump of the logs for evilg.cleansoap.org |
| 05:46:02 | Soap | 300 and 218 downloads for his two ipod video builds (32 / 64 MB) vs ~6000 and ~3000 for official Rockbox. |
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| 06:56:07 | amiconn | Soap: Afaik Bagder created a branch for gigabeat S. Commits in that branch won't appear on the frontpage yet they will bump revision numbers |
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| 07:18:13 | Soap | thank you amiconn. |
| 07:18:33 | Soap | I saw that a branch had been opened for the S, but didn't put two and two together. |
| 07:19:28 | Soap | (saw the branch was opened and that its commits weren't being published on the front page), but didn't put... |
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| 09:19:08 | bluebrother | hmm. Where can I find which players have car adaptor mode? Haven't found anything in the config-* files :o |
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| 10:26:07 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 10:26:53 | dan_a | Good morning (GMT) |
| 10:27:05 | amiconn | hi dan_a |
| 10:27:13 | dan_a | Hi amiconn |
| 10:27:31 | amiconn | dan_a: How does rockbox perform in general on iPod G3 (i.e. PP5002)? |
| 10:27:43 | JdGordon | Llorean: you round? |
| 10:27:52 | amiconn | I wonder whether it's worth completing the rockbox port to the ipod family |
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| 10:28:04 | amiconn | iPod G2 and G1 are still missing, and they are PP5002 |
| 10:28:45 | amiconn | I also wonder how difficult a port would be (probably not difficult thanks to ipl) |
| 10:29:12 | dan_a | amiconn: Now it's running at the full clock speed, it's usable. It still needs some work to bring it up to the standard of the 4G, but I don't think it's anything impossible |
| 10:29:50 | amiconn | There are some G2s and G1s on ebay.de I am watching |
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| 10:30:42 | Bagder | btw, is that full speed fix implemented in ipl? |
| 10:30:47 | dan_a | More people working on the PP5002s would be a good thing |
| 10:30:56 | amiconn | dan_a: And a G3 specific question: Are the button lights controlled separately, or coupled with backlight? |
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| 10:31:11 | dan_a | They are hooked to the backlight |
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| 10:32:45 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: Hello. I'm having trouble with hangups/undefined instruction/prefect abort from the radio debug screen |
| 10:33:05 | JdGordon | which target? |
| 10:33:21 | jhMikeS | H120, e200 (the ones I've checked so far) |
| 10:34:05 | JdGordon | crap, ok, once my fingures warm up a bit ill have a look.... |
| 10:34:08 | jhMikeS | basically that leaves x5 that I haven't checked |
| 10:34:30 | JdGordon | is anything displayed before crashing? |
| 10:34:35 | JdGordon | or startight away when entering? |
| 10:38:18 | jhMikeS | the statusbar gets corrupted |
| 10:38:51 | jhMikeS | the screen shows and the crash happens after that |
| 10:40:34 | jhMikeS | I'll do a recheck just to make sure it's not anything I'm working on. |
| 10:40:45 | JdGordon | ... serves me right for checking on my radio-less sansa and forgetting about checking onthe h300... |
| 10:41:00 | JdGordon | h300 works... |
| 10:41:11 | JdGordon | no, it shows, but crashes |
| 10:41:41 | JdGordon | btw, everyone like the new look disk debug screens? |
| 10:42:07 | jhMikeS | e200 just crashed, clean svn build |
| 10:42:29 | jhMikeS | prefectch abort at 60000002 |
| 10:43:55 | JdGordon | did I miss Llorean for the evening already? |
| 10:44:17 | amiconn | Bagder: I don't think the full speed fix is implemented in ipl yet |
| 10:44:18 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: looks good to me but it doesn't auto update when inserting a card like before |
| 10:45:05 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: it does here... |
| 10:45:24 | * | JdGordon 's sansa has gone awol |
| 10:45:35 | jhMikeS | odd, it wasn't and then it started to |
| 10:46:02 | JdGordon | is it obvious enough how to change cards? |
| 10:46:16 | amiconn | Commits to ipl cvs are a rare thing nowadays... unless i am looking in the wrong place |
| 10:47:01 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: well, I found it by pushing buttons pretty quickly so I guess so :) |
| 10:47:14 | JdGordon | cool |
| 10:47:23 | JdGordon | didnt really want to have both cards in the same list |
| 10:47:31 | * | JdGordon idiot.... found the radio bug... |
| 10:47:36 | JdGordon | just need to test it |
| 10:47:52 | amiconn | JdGordon: The debug works fine on Ondio, including auto update |
| 10:48:13 | JdGordon | :) |
| 10:48:15 | amiconn | But why does it say 'MMC/micro SD' instead of just 'MMC'? |
| 10:48:42 | JdGordon | an extra 8 bytes is better than having a #ifdef for the string in the code... |
| 10:49:03 | amiconn | Then #define the string somewhere before the code... |
| 10:49:04 | JdGordon | its only the debug screen after all |
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| 10:50:19 | bluebrother | then why not use some more generic string? "Card" f.e.? |
| 10:52:14 | JdGordon | .... fine.... |
| 10:53:34 | * | jhMikeS will then forget what he has :( |
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| 10:55:16 | pixelma | "Card" somehow doesn't sound like something that you would read in a debug screen, not very techy ;) |
| 10:55:51 | JdGordon | ok all fixed |
| 10:56:59 | amiconn | Neither Card nor MMC nor microSD are 100% correct anyway, because "Card" 0 is actually the built-in storage which is controlled the same as an MMC/microSD, but isn't an actual card |
| 10:57:03 | * | jhMikeS svn up's so he can finish this grunt work |
| 10:57:31 | amiconn | But as JdGordon said, it's just a debug screen, so 'Card' is fine imho |
| 10:58:59 | * | pixelma remembers that she got confused with "MMC0" in the old debug screen |
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| 11:01:30 | Llorean | JdGordon: Yes, and no. I'm back. |
| 11:01:44 | JdGordon | yay :) |
| 11:02:11 | Llorean | amiconn: Or "Flash"? |
| 11:02:14 | JdGordon | first off.... <joke> ill let you commit the sansa changes if you let me commit custom menu... |
| 11:02:19 | Llorean | :-P |
| 11:02:32 | Llorean | I'm sure there were other people who didn't like the Sansa changes too. |
| 11:02:36 | Llorean | I just couldn't remember who they were |
| 11:03:03 | JdGordon | ... I had a look at the patch again, and I guess its not all that bad, Ill put it on mine soon and actually try it out |
| 11:03:24 | * | jhMikeS needs bringing up to speed on said "sansa changes" |
| 11:03:26 | JdGordon | down isnt any harder than power to hit.. so yeah, put me in the indifferent pile |
| 11:03:26 | Llorean | I personally like it a lot better, but I'm quite aware keymappings are an issue of taste. |
| 11:03:38 | Llorean | jhMikeS: It's just a different keymap, I posted it to Flyspray some time ago |
| 11:03:43 | JdGordon | 7232 jhMikeS |
| 11:03:49 | jhMikeS | ah |
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| 11:04:18 | Llorean | It's basically a keymap that's much more similar to the keymaps on other players. |
| 11:04:41 | JdGordon | can someone do me a big favour please? change the black in the 16bit default iconset to 0,0,255 ? |
| 11:04:48 | * | JdGordon has no mspaint equiv on this comp |
| 11:05:36 | Llorean | The disadvantage being that it's a little slower to get to the context menu, because it's long-press "Down", while it offers a short-press stop on the "Power" button instead. |
| 11:05:46 | Llorean | Which, I'll admit, Stop is probably one of the less used buttons. |
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| 11:05:59 | jhMikeS | I remember this now. Actually, for me a long press of the menu button doing a context menu and a short one doing the regular menu would make sense as well |
| 11:06:19 | Llorean | jhMikeS: By "Menu" you mean the button at the bottom of the circle? |
| 11:06:22 | Llorean | JdGordon: Why Blue? |
| 11:06:29 | JdGordon | surprise :) |
| 11:06:45 | JdGordon | well... im trying to fix the bug where the icons dont use the forground colour |
| 11:06:51 | jhMikeS | Llorean: yes |
| 11:06:57 | Llorean | If that' going to be "Foreground" why not 0,0,255, Cyan might be a less common color |
| 11:07:00 | JdGordon | that colour would be the replace-with-forground |
| 11:07:06 | Llorean | I'd had for someone to attempt to make an actual blue icon set. :-P |
| 11:07:16 | Llorean | Err 0, 255, 255 rather |
| 11:07:20 | * | JdGordon is happy to set any colour |
| 11:07:21 | jhMikeS | but then we have labelled buttons and I have a liking for buttons doing as they're labelled on the device :\ |
| 11:07:26 | bluebrother | can anyone tell me how I find out if a player has car adapter mode? Wasn't successful looking at config-*.h |
| 11:07:38 | JdGordon | dw... installed kolorpaint |
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| 11:07:50 | Llorean | jhMikeS: The only label it violates is the word "menu" beneath the power logo. It's a valid concern though. |
| 11:08:01 | * | Llorean discovers he has no USB keyboard. |
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| 11:11:07 | amiconn | bluebrother: Any device which has charging also has car adapter mode |
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| 11:11:34 | Llorean | amiconn: Do they all just Pause right now? |
| 11:11:42 | amiconn | Whether it's fully usable depends on factors not under rockbox' control |
| 11:11:45 | JdGordon | any objections to http://pastebin.ca/618932 ? |
| 11:12:00 | jhMikeS | various devices I have have wildly different keymapping and somehow I manage and don't get tripped up switching amongst them. Initial mapping expectations based on another device when first using a device are often more problematic. If you've never used rockbox on more than one, I think consistency with labels is more helpful. |
| 11:12:17 | amiconn | Car adapter mode pauses/unpauses. To be fully usable the device should boot into rockbox when power is connected |
| 11:12:47 | Llorean | JdGordon: That would actually allow for some *really* nifty things, too. |
| 11:12:48 | amiconn | This depends on the hardware and on some targets also on the builtin loader (e.g. cowon) |
| 11:12:59 | Llorean | Like an > pointer, with a black outline and a FGCOLOR center |
| 11:13:08 | JdGordon | yeah |
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| 11:14:28 | jhMikeS | the radio screen doesn't seem to be updating unless I start pushing a button. the screen should be live. |
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| 11:14:35 | Llorean | jhMikeS: My main intent with that wasn't button positioning, but rather "If a button does X in the wps, and Y in the menu on one target, the button that does X in the wps on another should do Y in the menu" |
| 11:14:35 | jhMikeS | radio debug screen rather |
| 11:14:44 | JdGordon | radio screen isnt static info? |
| 11:14:54 | jhMikeS | no |
| 11:14:56 | chrisdudeperson | hey |
| 11:15:02 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Basically, if a button is the "Menu" button, it should do the same things as the "Menu" button on the other players, independent of where they are physically on any given unit. |
| 11:15:19 | Llorean | The problem is that the Sansa has a "Playlist" button |
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| 11:16:50 | JdGordon | amiconn: no objection to above pastebin? |
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| 11:17:52 | chrisdudeperson | hry |
| 11:17:54 | chrisdudeperson | hey |
| 11:17:58 | chrisdudeperson | can someone tell me |
| 11:18:09 | chrisdudeperson | is iboy preinstalled on rockbox? |
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| 11:18:37 | jhMikeS | Llorean: never really thought of any button as "playlist". I don't even know of which you speak. :) |
| 11:18:47 | Llorean | chrisdudeperson: Please read the manual. There's no "iboy" but there is "rockboy" preinstalled. |
| 11:18:57 | Llorean | jhMikeS: It's what I hear a lot of people call the bottom button on the circle. |
| 11:19:00 | chrisdudeperson | ok thanks |
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| 11:19:16 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Maybe it shows the playlist in the OF or something. |
| 11:19:17 | jhMikeS | ?? Always looked like a dropdown menu to me |
| 11:19:28 | * | JdGordon also thought it was a menu button |
| 11:19:30 | Llorean | I always thought of it as "Menu" |
| 11:19:43 | Llorean | But the Power button is labeled "Menu" |
| 11:19:45 | jhMikeS | first thing I thought was "context menu" |
| 11:20:01 | * | JdGordon loads OF |
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| 11:21:12 | JdGordon | from the OF's WPS, its the equiv of our quick screen |
| 11:22:14 | jhMikeS | a combo of quickscreen and the WPS context menu |
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| 11:22:52 | * | jhMikeS wonder if the OF is even using the COP as the decoding core :\ |
| 11:23:46 | jhMikeS | it gets clunky during playback |
| 11:24:51 | Llorean | Aren't we nearly at the Sansa's OF battery life already? |
| 11:26:12 | jhMikeS | I really don't know where that stands atm but we could blow the lid off it in performance using the COP for sure. |
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| 11:30:40 | JdGordon | Llorean: ok, compiling with your patch now |
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| 11:32:42 | JdGordon | meh, its not so bad, commit it if you want |
| 11:33:13 | JdGordon | it will take 30 s to get used to |
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| 11:33:23 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Mind trying it out and seeing if it "feels okay" to you too? |
| 11:33:48 | dan_a | JdGordon: Did I see from old logs that you're playing with git now? |
| 11:34:03 | JdGordon | was then, havnt touched it sinc |
| 11:34:04 | JdGordon | e |
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| 11:34:12 | dan_a | Ah, OK |
| 11:34:25 | JdGordon | Llorean: only down side is i tihnk power is less used, and mostly useless |
| 11:34:43 | Llorean | JdGordon: True, power is now only "Stop" and actually turning the unit off. |
| 11:35:24 | Llorean | Hm, Zagor's the only person who tinkers with our Flyspray right? |
| 11:36:05 | Llorean | I was thinking it might be nice to have a "SoC '08" option in the "Due In" box, so that if good ideas do show up, we can flag them now as potential candidates for next year, if we're involved and if they aren't done by then. |
| 11:38:35 | * | dan_a has spotted a Gigabeat S on ebay.co.uk |
| 11:41:01 | JdGordon | speaking of SoC, anyone know if Nico has been around recently? |
| 11:41:24 | Llorean | JdGordon: I've seen him in and out, but I haven't talked to him since Mon. |
| 11:41:36 | JdGordon | k |
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| 11:41:46 | Llorean | His plugin seems to have a small on-target bug |
| 11:42:32 | JdGordon | my svn log shows he fixed it |
| 11:42:47 | pixelma | JdGordon: I think he said something yesterday (or the day before) that he had no time or something |
| 11:43:00 | JdGordon | :( ok |
| 11:43:05 | Llorean | JdGordon: It's still r46 right? |
| 11:43:22 | JdGordon | ah yeah |
| 11:43:35 | JdGordon | r45 | nico | 2007-07-09 06:49:21 +1000 (Mon, 09 Jul 2007) | 5 lines |
| 11:43:36 | JdGordon | It works on target ! |
| 11:43:36 | Llorean | The bug is that the output files are sometimes 4 bytes shorter than the input file |
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| 11:43:46 | Llorean | It works on target, but not perfectly |
| 11:44:38 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 11:45:00 | JdGordon | I wanted to start thining about merging it into svn, but almost chocked when i look at playback.c :p |
| 11:45:23 | Llorean | Hehehe |
| 11:45:54 | Llorean | He was also talking about how to deal with files longer than the whole buffer. |
| 11:46:22 | Llorean | Instead of dealing with moving the metadata handle before it, maybe having a ringbuffer within the data itself. |
| 11:46:35 | Llorean | So for "long" data, there's a second ringbuffer just for it. |
| 11:47:13 | Llorean | "long" meaning long enough that it'll need to overwrite something that hasn't been cleared/released/whatever terminology |
| 11:47:42 | JdGordon | yeah, we had talked about that, its goita aroundng to be messy, but better than moving the metada |
| 11:47:51 | JdGordon | fuck, stupid touchpad |
| 11:47:54 | stripwax | hm, is it no longer possible to have rgb(0,255,255) in a bitmap? |
| 11:47:59 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:48:11 | JdGordon | 0,255,254 is close enough |
| 11:48:13 | stripwax | true |
| 11:48:30 | JdGordon | yeah, we had talked about that, its going to be messy, but better than moving the metadata around |
| 11:48:44 | Llorean | Will 0,255,254 work? I was always curious whether the comparison happens before or after the 16-bit conversion. |
| 11:49:23 | stripwax | which reminds me. I still can't find any way to actually quantize a bmp to rgb565 |
| 11:49:47 | stripwax | (on a pc, that is) |
| 11:49:56 | JdGordon | Llorean: I guess its converted before the comparrison, so maybe not |
| 11:50:51 | Llorean | JdGordon: Still, the nearest 16-bit color should be close enough I think |
| 11:51:13 | Llorean | If we can give away magenta, we can give away cyan. |
| 11:51:53 | * | JdGordon wonders how many wps's he broke with that patch |
| 11:52:50 | jhMikeS | Llorean: sure |
| 11:52:53 | pixelma | Llorean: I think 0,255,254 probably won't work - at least the jewels puzzle tiles had a background colour of 0,254,254 before my changes (except the Ipod video ones) - haven't tried but I think it was still transparent there |
| 11:53:09 | Llorean | pixelma: Thanks |
| 11:53:20 | Llorean | Either way, I really like the idea of having a color for "foreground" as well. |
| 11:53:35 | pixelma | unless you tell me it wasn't transparent... |
| 11:53:55 | Llorean | pixelma: It's been transparent on all my players pre-your-changes. |
| 11:54:16 | pixelma | thanks |
| 11:54:27 | pixelma | (for the info, I mean) |
| 11:55:00 | * | jhMikeS thinks the bitmaps need headers to also include their transparent color (besides size and other info) and wonders how low such a conversion would take. |
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| 11:58:25 | JdGordon | out of curiosity... is anyone using the file browser colour stuff? |
| 11:58:58 | JdGordon | ... and wasnt 6933 commited? |
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| 12:00:11 | Butsumetsu | hello. |
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| 12:02:12 | Llorean | JdGordon: I use it. |
| 12:02:22 | jhMikeS | Llorean: Not sure about it :\ |
| 12:02:45 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Alright. It may be best it's just left as a patch then, at least for now. |
| 12:03:10 | Llorean | JdGordon: And the Vol +/- work in the menus on my gigabeat (though somewhat unresponsive) so I think so |
| 12:03:38 | Llorean | Well, the status bar update when the vol changes in unresponsive, actually. I think it changes fast, it just doesn't give feedback fast |
| 12:04:13 | JdGordon | ok, ta |
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| 12:05:47 | Butsumetsu | is anyone here using rockbox on a 80gb ipod? |
| 12:06:08 | scorche | Butsumetsu: if you are trying to get around to a specific question, just ask it |
| 12:06:52 | JdGordon | Llorean: HA! 5622 would be closed if I could comit the menu patch :D |
| 12:07:08 | Butsumetsu | well heres where im at... i downloaded the rockbox.zip from the wiki for 80gb ipod but the manual says that i need to install 3 different things. just wanted to know if the zip has all those 3 |
| 12:07:24 | scorche | the manual tells you where to get everything |
| 12:07:32 | bluebrother | it does not. |
| 12:07:40 | bluebrother | just follow the guidelines in the manual |
| 12:07:53 | Butsumetsu | ok |
| 12:07:56 | scorche | bluebrother: it doesnt?...i thought everything was linked |
| 12:07:58 | Butsumetsu | so wat does the zip contain? |
| 12:08:02 | bluebrother | or try rbutil |
| 12:08:14 | bluebrother | scorche: I meant the zip files does not include everything ;-) |
| 12:08:20 | bluebrother | I was a bit unclear ... |
| 12:08:22 | scorche | oh...hehe =) |
| 12:08:30 | stripwax | 1. bootloader 2. rockbox itself 3. fonts right? |
| 12:08:31 | Butsumetsu | yea thats wat i needed to get clarified with |
| 12:08:36 | Butsumetsu | naw |
| 12:08:41 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility |
| 12:08:52 | Butsumetsu | ipod loader rockbox loader firmware |
| 12:08:55 | scorche | i was going to say...if the manual didnt tell you where to get everything, that should eb fixed =P |
| 12:09:07 | bluebrother | right :) |
| 12:09:27 | * | stripwax is concerned if the manual really says that |
| 12:09:33 | Llorean | JdGordon: Ah, but 5622 is a suggesting of a button assignment for an existing quickscreen (and some discussion on repurposing the said already coded screen :-P) |
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| 12:09:35 | scorche | Butsumetsu: what do you mean by ipod loader? |
| 12:09:37 | stripwax | what's the difference between "ipod loader" and "rockbox loader"? |
| 12:09:49 | Butsumetsu | im just reading off the manual |
| 12:09:52 | bluebrother | the ipod loader is the bootloader that is in the ipods flash |
| 12:10:07 | stripwax | you can't "install" that surely |
| 12:10:12 | bluebrother | you don't replace that. It's just present (and our safety-guard in case something goes wrong) |
| 12:10:22 | Butsumetsu | blue i can just use rbutil to install rockbox on ipod? |
| 12:10:25 | stripwax | yep |
| 12:10:25 | * | scorche senses much confusion going on around here |
| 12:10:58 | stripwax | Butsumetsu - just try rbutil, should work fine |
| 12:11:06 | bluebrother | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-90002.2.1 |
| 12:11:06 | Butsumetsu | kk doing it now |
| 12:11:26 | bluebrother | that section clearly states that the Ipod bootloader is just "there" |
| 12:11:55 | bluebrother | and rbutil has three buttons for installation: bootloader, the build and (on the extras tab) fonts. |
| 12:12:06 | Butsumetsu | kk |
| 12:12:22 | bluebrother | hmm, maybe we should direct more often to rbutil in the first place? |
| 12:12:31 | stripwax | it's a bit user unfriendly still |
| 12:12:47 | * | stripwax is strill trying to get it to build :( |
| 12:12:55 | bluebrother | yeah, but it might be better than manual install for most people |
| 12:12:58 | stripwax | true |
| 12:13:03 | Butsumetsu | well my problem with the online manual is that its too general |
| 12:13:07 | bluebrother | and advertising it more might get it more testing ;-) |
| 12:13:24 | bluebrother | what is too general in the manual? Can you be more specific? |
| 12:13:34 | * | amiconn thinks that JdGordon's fix for fs #7044 isn't the proper one |
| 12:13:38 | stripwax | Butsumetsu - should it be simplified to say "just do these three steps" do you think? |
| 12:13:50 | amiconn | It's okay as a temporary measure though, imho |
| 12:13:50 | Butsumetsu | well i dont mean that |
| 12:14:00 | JdGordon | amiconn: whats wrogn with it? |
| 12:14:07 | Butsumetsu | hold on phone |
| 12:14:07 | stripwax | if we can fix the manual to make it easier we should |
| 12:14:14 | stripwax | :) |
| 12:14:22 | amiconn | Using yet another magic colour... |
| 12:14:25 | bluebrother | well, we need to know the problem with the manual first ;-) |
| 12:14:53 | amiconn | The proper solution involves a bitmap drawing function that distinguishes automatically between native and mono bitmaps |
| 12:15:20 | stripwax | amiconn - what if you want a multicolor icon though (e.g. foreground colour with a black shadow)? |
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| 12:18:15 | stripwax | maybe icons should be palettised and an index should be reserved for foreground and transparent colours? |
| 12:18:16 | amiconn | That doesn't make much sense imo. The workaround is meant to fix the mono icon set. For an icon+shadow, I would fix the foreground colour within the icon anyway |
| 12:18:37 | amiconn | Otherwise it will again look strange (e.g. black foreground + black shadow) |
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| 12:19:52 | stripwax | hmm |
| 12:21:06 | JdGordon | does anyone think it would be a bad idea to move the hardware init from apps/ to the target tree? |
| 12:21:48 | JdGordon | seen as its duplicated in bootloader/ also |
| 12:21:59 | JdGordon | (and so we only have 1 main() in apps) |
| 12:22:14 | bluebrother | wasn't it wanted to have it separated between bootloader and Rockbox? |
| 12:22:29 | Butsumetsu | ok my bad the manual is fine just a bit confusing |
| 12:22:47 | bluebrother | nice, so nothing to fix in the manual ;-) |
| 12:23:08 | Butsumetsu | yea just need to reread it a few times and you'll be fine |
| 12:23:11 | scorche | Butsumetsu: what part do you find confusing? |
| 12:23:12 | JdGordon | we can easily #ifndef BOOTLOADER in the TT |
| 12:23:26 | Butsumetsu | its mostly installation process |
| 12:23:37 | scorche | is there a specific part? |
| 12:23:39 | Butsumetsu | what got me was the 3 part installation process |
| 12:23:48 | Butsumetsu | and yea direct more to rbutil :P |
| 12:24:07 | bluebrother | well, as rbutil isn't finished yet we haven't done previously. |
| 12:24:16 | Butsumetsu | aahh ic ic |
| 12:24:24 | Butsumetsu | well as far im concerned it works fine for me |
| 12:24:27 | bluebrother | but it has reached a state were we could start doing so. At least note it. |
| 12:24:56 | Butsumetsu | its more user friendly than going through the manual but it cant replace it |
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| 12:26:36 | Butsumetsu | themes are in the forums right? |
| 12:26:40 | arod | I'd like to try out rockbox, I have no device right now but I'd like to buy one. Which is the best supported player? |
| 12:26:42 | Llorean | bluebrother: Do we have a list of "what needs to be finished up"? |
| 12:26:48 | Llorean | For RBUtil |
| 12:26:53 | Llorean | Butsumetsu: They're in the Wiki |
| 12:26:55 | scorche | what 3 part installation process?...i only see 2 (installing the firmware; installing the bootloader) |
| 12:26:58 | Butsumetsu | kk thanks |
| 12:27:09 | bluebrother | Llorean: I don't think so. Domonoky might have a list ... |
| 12:27:16 | Butsumetsu | "There are three separate components of Rockbox, two of which need to be installed in order to run Rockbox." |
| 12:27:21 | Llorean | arod: "Best" depends on both how much you're willing to pay, what features you want it to have, and whether you're willing to spend time waiting for it to show up on Ebay or some similar location |
| 12:27:29 | Butsumetsu | that got me confused |
| 12:27:33 | Butsumetsu | but rereading helped :P |
| 12:27:55 | stripwax | Llorean - i mentioned some observed bugs in irc the other day, I'd fix them if I can get a build of rbutil |
| 12:28:41 | stripwax | Butsumetsu - maybe some of that could be in an appendix. Probably the regular user doesn't need to know about the third component that cannot be installed downloaded or changed ;-) |
| 12:28:54 | bluebrother | stripwax: what is your problem with building rbutil? |
| 12:28:55 | pixelma | arod: you might want to look at the BuyersGuide page in the wiki |
| 12:29:08 | stripwax | bluebrother - in irc log |
| 12:29:25 | Butsumetsu | yea that might be more simplier seeing as most users are pretty impatient such as i |
| 12:29:30 | Butsumetsu | ^^ |
| 12:29:37 | stripwax | :-) |
| 12:30:02 | bluebrother | well, if you want to use Rockbox you shouldn't be impatient ... |
| 12:30:20 | Butsumetsu | btw can the font size on the ipod screen be changed or is it that small |
| 12:30:31 | Butsumetsu | hehe true but it is a trait that is hard to get rid of |
| 12:30:38 | stripwax | bluebrother - downloaded wxwindows, ran make under cygwin, ran make for rbutil, and got a bunch of errors in streambuf code.. |
| 12:31:04 | stripwax | Butsumetsu - ok, now read the manual.. ;-) I'm sure the next ten or so questions you might want to ask are already answered for you in the manual |
| 12:31:05 | scorche | Butsumetsu: the manual explains that too..i would recommend readint eh whole thing |
| 12:31:09 | bluebrother | ah, your trying on cygwin? Why not native windows? AFAIK the windows version doesn't require cygwin |
| 12:31:11 | stripwax | (e.g. fonts? yes you can change them) |
| 12:31:16 | Butsumetsu | haha ok |
| 12:31:37 | stripwax | bluebrother - oh. just because I'm using cygwin for everything else I do related to rockbox. is cygwin build not supported? bah. |
| 12:31:39 | bluebrother | Butsumetsu: I mentioned the fonts package earlier ... |
| 12:32:00 | bluebrother | stripwax: I don't know if it's not supported. I just guess nobody tried yet ;-) |
| 12:32:13 | Butsumetsu | yea im looking through that now |
| 12:32:55 | arod | Llorean, pixelma: I'm not feature hungry. I'm looking for a cheap but stable device. I'll read the guide |
| 12:33:04 | stripwax | bluebrother - ah, ha-ha.. ok, unchartered territory. i'll have a play |
| 12:33:21 | Llorean | arod: Currently the best price per gigabyte is almost certainly the Gigabeat F40 if you can find one. |
| 12:35:15 | JdGordon | who knows how to pass a param to main() from the bootloader? I fear this is yucky asm territory? |
| 12:35:49 | Butsumetsu | one last noobie question then ill leave you guys alone and explore a bit... is there podcast/video support? |
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| 12:36:41 | stripwax | isn't a podcast just a file that you can download? not sure what needs to be supported. rockbox has a video player, yes. |
| 12:37:01 | bluebrother | Podcasts are just normal audio files. |
| 12:37:09 | bluebrother | Rockbox |
| 12:37:14 | stripwax | ? |
| 12:37:18 | Butsumetsu | well there are video podcast too but as for the vid player thanks for telling me |
| 12:37:25 | bluebrother | mpegplayer plugin can only play mpeg2 videos. |
| 12:37:40 | bluebrother | but you can easily switch to the apple firmware for video playback |
| 12:37:55 | Butsumetsu | hhmmm ic ic |
| 12:38:03 | bluebrother | which might be better suited as Rockbox currently doesn't use the additional chip for video decoding. |
| 12:38:18 | Butsumetsu | aahh ok |
| 12:38:29 | bluebrother | check manual and wiki page PluginMpegplayer |
| 12:38:53 | * | stripwax sighs, no more popworld |
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| 12:39:07 | Butsumetsu | kk and ill go check the plugin page too |
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| 12:48:34 | * | stripwax has found a webpage full of tips on how to get wx to build nicely under cygwin. gah. |
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| 12:52:59 | pixelma | Domonoky: maybe you can help stripwax to build rbutil under windows? |
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| 13:02:30 | Domonoky | pixelma: sure, what are the problems ? |
| 13:02:56 | * | Domonoky will take a look in the logs.. |
| 13:03:39 | bluebrother | Domonoky: he tried building from within cygwin ... I guess nobody has tried before? |
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| 13:04:26 | Domonoky | jeah, i think compiling in cygwin is broken.. i use Code::blocks for it.. |
| 13:04:34 | Domonoky | but i think it should be fixable |
| 13:04:53 | bluebrother | bbl ... |
| 13:05:34 | stripwax | Domonoky - sorry, what is "Code::blocks" ? Is it worth me persuing trying to fix compiling in cygwin or is that a lost cause? |
| 13:06:25 | Domonoky | Code::Blocks is a IDE which can use a variety of compilers, Cassandra used it for starting rbutil, so i continued to use it :-) |
| 13:06:43 | stripwax | Domonoky - and which compiler do you use? |
| 13:06:44 | Domonoky | and i think it would be good to fix compiling in cygwin.. |
| 13:07:25 | stripwax | me to |
| 13:07:26 | stripwax | too |
| 13:08:22 | * | Domonoky waits for his PC to react.. :-) |
| 13:09:48 | Domonoky | i think my Code::Blocks uses the GCC compiler from Dev-Cpp at the moment.. |
| 13:09:57 | Domonoky | i will try to compile with cygwin.. |
| 13:12:16 | stripwax | thanks. problem seems to be related to stl code in streambuf that tries to do std::max and std::min failing to compile because something (somewhere) has #defined min and max, so that line gets preprocessed into garbage |
| 13:12:26 | stripwax | googling helps a bit, suggests I need to -DNOMINMAX, trying that |
| 13:13:08 | stripwax | rbutil itself probably not the problem, looks like templates defined by wx failing to compile |
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| 13:17:56 | Domonoky | hm.. strange error.. |
| 13:18:02 | stripwax | ye[ |
| 13:18:04 | stripwax | yep |
| 13:18:17 | * | stripwax assumes you got the same on as he! :) |
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| 13:21:14 | Domonoky | hm.. -DNOMINMAX helps a bit, but then you get problems in ipodpatcher..(i think it needs the min and max.. :-) ) |
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| 13:23:06 | stripwax | oh.. |
| 13:23:35 | stripwax | ipodpatcher should just be fixed then. |
| 13:24:13 | * | stripwax wonders if changing some #include order would also resolve.. |
| 13:26:13 | Domonoky | stripwax: could be.. |
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| 13:27:06 | Domonoky | oh i see a problem in ipodpatcher for this.. |
| 13:27:39 | Domonoky | there is a #ifdef __WIN32__ and this isnt defined for cygwin.. |
| 13:28:08 | Domonoky | in ipodpatcher\ipodio.h .. hm.. will make some tests.. |
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| 13:33:22 | Domonoky | defining __WIN32__ in the Makefile also helps, but know ipodpatcher i also have to change the makefile so it uses ipodio-win32.c and not ipodio-posix.h |
| 13:35:19 | Domonoky | jeah.. rbutil compiled and worked in cygwin !! :-) |
| 13:36:26 | stripwax | great! somereason wx is still (re)building for me, taking ages .. |
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| 13:37:15 | stripwax | wonder why __WIN32__ isn't defined for cygwin, or is that just the wrong #ifdef to use here? though __WIN32__ meant 'target is win32'. wonder what cygwin defines |
| 13:38:01 | Domonoky | so the changes needed to get it compile: add -DNOMINMAX to the cpp compileing path, define __WIN32__ in the Makefile, and replace the ipodio-posix.o with ipod-win32.o the same for the sansapatcher.. |
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| 13:38:36 | stripwax | replace the object file? shouldn't it compile the right thing? <confused> |
| 13:38:41 | Domonoky | so we need to change the Makefile so it contains a special win32 path :-) |
| 13:38:54 | Domonoky | in the Makefile there is a list of .o files. |
| 13:39:04 | stripwax | ah, i see |
| 13:39:14 | stripwax | but −− shouldn't the posix code compile for cygwin? |
| 13:39:24 | * | stripwax rather thought that was the point of cygwin |
| 13:39:46 | Domonoky | it doesnt compile, and the win32 version works.. so i dont know.. |
| 13:40:00 | stripwax | :-D ok, well I'll just do it! |
| 13:40:37 | Domonoky | we should put some ifdefs in the Makefile, so it works for cygwin and linux.. |
| 13:42:06 | Domonoky | many warnings in ipodpatcher.. but there only for some printfs, so no problem.. |
| 13:42:37 | stripwax | printf warnings shouldn't be hard to fix.. :) |
| 13:43:43 | * | stripwax is still waiting for wx to finish rebuilding however |
| 13:43:45 | Domonoky | ups segfault in rbutil, compiled with cygwin ? :-) |
| 13:44:25 | stripwax | ups? |
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| 13:44:52 | * | stripwax continues to wait for the build to finish, he'll be up to speed shortly hopefully :) |
| 13:44:56 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 13:46:19 | jhMikeS | build server needs a kick in the underpants :\ |
| 13:49:15 | * | stripwax understands now. the released win32 builds didn't even use the makefile, they were msvc.. right.. |
| 13:49:46 | Domonoky | yes, they didnt use the makefile, the were build with Code::Blocks.. |
| 13:50:05 | stripwax | does that have its own project format? |
| 13:50:23 | Domonoky | yes.. the rbutil.cdb file |
| 13:50:25 | stripwax | rbutil builds - woohoo |
| 13:50:43 | stripwax | Domonoky - ah-HAH! makes a lot more sense now. |
| 13:50:51 | Domonoky | it could use the Makefile, but i didnt got it working, so i used the things from Code::Blocks |
| 13:51:22 | stripwax | did it not work for the same reasons cygwin didn't work? ;-) |
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| 13:51:45 | Domonoky | i dont know anymore.. :-) |
| 13:52:08 | Domonoky | but it seams, rbutil has problems when build with cygwin.. :-/ |
| 13:52:18 | stripwax | how to reproduce your segfault? |
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| 13:52:56 | Domonoky | i just started it, and i got the segfault .. now it doesnt Segfault, but hangs.. |
| 13:53:13 | stripwax | weird, mine's fine! |
| 13:53:29 | stripwax | oh, except the mouse pointer is an hourglass, but it does work.. |
| 13:53:33 | Domonoky | ah.. it cant get the Manual at moment, |
| 13:53:34 | stripwax | it isn't hung.. |
| 13:53:51 | Domonoky | it takes a very long time in cygwin to abort the downloading.. |
| 13:53:52 | stripwax | hm, clicking on the Manual tab doesn't redraw the screen correctly though |
| 13:54:10 | Domonoky | stripwax: it is hanging, while trying to get the manual.. |
| 13:55:07 | stripwax | not sure I'm seeing the same hanging - mine works (even though the manual isn't displayed..) is that what you mean? it isn't hung (or did you click on the pdf link?) |
| 13:55:37 | Domonoky | stripwax: it should show the manual, if it can get the html.. |
| 13:55:44 | stripwax | but it's not hung |
| 13:56:07 | Domonoky | but you have the hourglass, so its busy.. |
| 13:56:13 | stripwax | but the ui still works! |
| 13:56:24 | stripwax | oh. it just crashed when I clicked on 'install bootloader'. hm. |
| 13:56:25 | Domonoky | yes wx manages this :-) |
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| 13:56:59 | stripwax | i'll disable the manual for now in my build and see if everything else seems to work ok |
| 13:57:07 | Domonoky | but something is wrong, the timeout is too long, and i get segfaults sometimes.. |
| 13:57:26 | Domonoky | jeah, try with out the manual.. |
| 13:58:24 | Domonoky | in rbutilFrm.cpp the function OnManualUpdate(..) |
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| 13:59:59 | stripwax | hm. looks like http just doesn't work. fetching bootloader stalls |
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| 14:00:41 | Domonoky | yes, looks like it.. strange.. |
| 14:00:56 | stripwax | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootlloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 14:01:00 | stripwax | is that the right link ..? |
| 14:01:35 | Domonoky | an l to much in this link.. |
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| 14:02:20 | stripwax | oops, that's just my bad typing. yep, link looks fine. so, strange.. |
| 14:02:45 | Domonoky | looks like a problem with wx and cygwin.. :-/ |
| 14:04:22 | stripwax | hm, i'll see if the wx samples even work .. |
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| 14:16:29 | * | Domonoky wants to try to debug this problem, but gdb in cygwin just exits with: "[4]+ Stopped gdb rbutil" when i get to the problematic section... :-/ |
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| 14:17:40 | PaulJam | JdGordon: there is a little typo in the disk info screen, i guess it should be Firmware insead of Firmare. |
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| 14:21:11 | stripwax | Domonoky- hm, it exits? is wx doing a fork or something weird? |
| 14:21:42 | Domonoky | stripwax: could be, i dont know, and i dont know gdb enough.. :-/ |
| 14:22:01 | stripwax | me is *still* building those wx samples :( but will check in just a moment |
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| 14:22:26 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 14:32:50 | obo | PaulJam: fixed |
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| 14:50:20 | bluebrother | "Build should have been done sin |
| 14:50:29 | bluebrother | *done 77m ago? |
| 14:50:48 | PaulJam | the buldserver hangs |
| 14:51:13 | bluebrother | funny new display ;-) |
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| 14:53:41 | amiconn | Domonoky: When building on cygwin, imho we should use -mnocygwin so the final executable will work without cygwin1.dll |
| 14:53:56 | stripwax | agree |
| 14:53:57 | amiconn | And with -mnocygwin, __WIN32__ will be defined |
| 14:54:06 | Domonoky | amiconn: yes, but first fix the problems :-) |
| 14:54:10 | Domonoky | ah.. nice.. |
| 14:54:17 | stripwax | hm, wasn't for me. although looks like Makefile redefined CXXFLAGS so that's probably why .... |
| 14:54:46 | amiconn | Afaik, the ipodpatcher code also relies on that in order to work properly on windows |
| 14:54:58 | Domonoky | stripwax: i found a solution to not need the -DNOMINMAX, will try if it helps for the downloading.. :-) |
| 14:55:06 | stripwax | cool |
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| 14:55:17 | * | stripwax is **still** running the wx samples build ... |
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| 14:56:28 | Kasperle | hi |
| 14:59:34 | Kasperle | what could make the bootloader fail to boot rockbox on an ipod 5.5g 30gb? i had it all working for a couple of months, but decided to upgrade bootloader and rockbox today. i installed the bootloader using ipodpatcher and unziped the rockbox-full.zip onto the dos partition. i cannot get the bootloader to load anything but the original ipod firmware |
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| 15:00:06 | stripwax | any error message? |
| 15:00:09 | amiconn | Sorry should be -mno-cygwin |
| 15:00:45 | Llorean | Kasperle: Did you just run the official ipodpatcher, or did you try to install a specific bootloader file? |
| 15:00:48 | Kasperle | stripwax: none. is there a way to make the bootloader output error messages? |
| 15:01:01 | Llorean | Hold "Right" while booting to get bootloader output, I believe |
| 15:01:05 | Kasperle | Llorean: i built everything from svn |
| 15:01:25 | obo | Kasperle: I've run into the same problem this morning, with self-built bootloaders |
| 15:01:33 | Llorean | You really shouldn't use SVN bootloaders, they can often be broken for extended periods which is why we offer a binary download. |
| 15:01:52 | Kasperle | oh, i see. |
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| 15:02:09 | Kasperle | i've never really bothered with pre-built rockbox binaries before |
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| 15:02:18 | * | stripwax is low on disk space.. maybe that's why builds are taking forever right now |
| 15:02:28 | stripwax | Kasperle - it's worth it for bootloaders.. |
| 15:02:42 | Llorean | Kasperle: If there is output from the bootloader when holding right, it'll be useful, but you should just use the official version and only update when a new official bootloader version is available. |
| 15:02:53 | Llorean | I'm curious why it's failing, or if it's saying anything |
| 15:03:03 | obo | Llorean: no output on right - just straight to OF |
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| 15:03:20 | Kasperle | same here |
| 15:03:46 | Llorean | Um |
| 15:03:53 | Llorean | It should give the bootloader text |
| 15:04:03 | obo | it doesn't - honest! :) |
| 15:04:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:04:13 | Llorean | Are you 100% sure the bootloader's installed then? |
| 15:04:36 | stripwax | heh |
| 15:04:48 | obo | ipodpatcher says it has written so many bytes... no visible errors from that |
| 15:04:49 | Kasperle | ipodpatcher says there's a 3rd-party bootloader installed |
| 15:05:05 | Llorean | I have a bootloader from 12 days ago installed, and holding right works |
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| 15:05:31 | Llorean | Though I'm on a Nano, and it is two weeks |
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| 15:05:34 | obo | I've tried using the wiki version of ipodpatcher as well as svn, no difference there |
| 15:05:47 | Llorean | obo: "Wiki" version? |
| 15:05:54 | obo | as in using the wiki version to write my own bootloader file |
| 15:06:20 | stripwax | ? |
| 15:06:22 | Llorean | ipodpatcher hasn't changed in quite a while, a download of the binary from downloads.rockbox.org is probably the same as an SVN binary |
| 15:06:26 | Llorean | But I don't know what "wiki" version you mean |
| 15:06:33 | * | obo isn't making sense |
| 15:07:42 | * | Domonoky gets many warnings and linker errors when building rbutil with -mno-cygwin in cygwin |
| 15:07:44 | obo | by wiki version I've tried using ipodpatcher from the "IpodPatcher" page to write by own compiled version of the bootloader file |
| 15:07:59 | obo | just incase it was an ipodpatcher issue rather than bootloader itself |
| 15:08:40 | Kasperle | also, i cannot figure out where to download the official bootloader, i checked the manual, the wiki, the builds page |
| 15:08:54 | Kasperle | maybe i'm just blind, but I cannot find it |
| 15:09:07 | obo | Kasperle: the IpodPatcher wiki page |
| 15:09:15 | Kasperle | oh. duh |
| 15:09:21 | Kasperle | i only checked the bootloader wiki page :D |
| 15:09:26 | Domonoky | Kasperle: the official bootloader is build in to ipodpatcher |
| 15:09:27 | obo | that version has the bootloaders built into it |
| 15:09:28 | Llorean | Well the bug predates 13851 |
| 15:09:36 | Llorean | As an SVN bootloader from 13851 doesn't work |
| 15:09:45 | Llorean | obo: No |
| 15:09:53 | Kasperle | IpodBoot to be precise ;) |
| 15:10:00 | Llorean | It's in the manual |
| 15:10:43 | Llorean | There is a direct link in the manual to ipodpatcher |
| 15:10:58 | Kasperle | oh, mkay. i only checked the links and didn't realize you'd need to download a binary ipodpatcher |
| 15:11:00 | Llorean | So, I'm curious where you're looking in the manual that you can't find it. |
| 15:11:04 | Kasperle | i'm not using a mainstream OS |
| 15:11:13 | Kasperle | so binary ipodpatcher was of no interest to me |
| 15:11:16 | Llorean | Which OS are you using that the manual doesn't support? |
| 15:11:19 | Kasperle | FreeBSD |
| 15:11:39 | Llorean | Ah |
| 15:11:54 | Domonoky | the official bootloader is also on download.rockbox.org (rbutil uses this ) |
| 15:11:55 | Kasperle | so i was just looking for links to the literal bootloader files :) |
| 15:12:11 | Llorean | Kasperle: The linux binary doesn't run on FreeBSD? |
| 15:12:17 | Llorean | I understood there was some binary compatibility |
| 15:12:20 | Kasperle | it might, i'll try it |
| 15:12:42 | Kasperle | fwiw my svn revision is 13854, if that is of any help |
| 15:12:47 | Llorean | The manual lists binaries because you're supposed to use the specific versions we provide, so that when you ask for support we know you're using a "working" version |
| 15:15:03 | * | Llorean wonders if amiconn's clock changes could be the problem |
| 15:15:31 | Kasperle | ok, the linux binary doesn't see my ipod |
| 15:15:37 | obo | Llorean: I'm binary searching the revs to try and track it down |
| 15:15:52 | Kasperle | some of the ioctls needed are apparently not implemented correctly in the linux compat layer |
| 15:16:03 | Kasperle | so it tries to use a 512 byte sector size and fails |
| 15:16:29 | * | B4gder sits in his backyard in the shade, legs up and wifi working... |
| 15:17:22 | Llorean | obo: My suspect revs are 13767 and 13763 right now if you want a few points to try out |
| 15:17:28 | stripwax | Domonoky - did you also build wx using mno-cygwin? |
| 15:17:56 | Domonoky | stripwax: no, that probably the problem.. |
| 15:18:04 | obo | Llorean: okay, thanks |
| 15:18:35 | obo | Kasperle: if you can build your own ipodpatcher, use it with http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 15:18:39 | Domonoky | and you can remove the -DNOMINMAX if you move the includes from bootloaders.cpp to the bootloaders.h file.. |
| 15:19:00 | Llorean | Kasperle: Well, for now use a bootloader from before June 1, and it should work. Mine was dated June 2 and worked, but I don't know when on June 2 the problem occurred, etc. |
| 15:20:08 | Kasperle | obo: cheers :) |
| 15:20:22 | Kasperle | that works like a charm |
| 15:20:28 | Kasperle | thank you all for your help :) |
| 15:20:38 | Llorean | Er, |
| 15:20:40 | * | Llorean meant Jul 2 |
| 15:21:35 | Domonoky | stripwax: if you get to try it: http://www.wxwidgets.org/wiki/index.php/Cygwin |
| 15:22:16 | stripwax | Domonoky - yep, that's what I've been doing :-D |
| 15:22:16 | * | Domonoky doesnt want to recompile wx, that takes so long.. and under Code::Blocks everthing works :-) |
| 15:22:24 | stripwax | (all along..) |
| 15:25:01 | Nico_P | B4gder: the build server is stalled |
| 15:25:31 | * | stripwax tries rebuilding everything all over again just to make sure |
| 15:26:02 | Nico_P | Llorean: hi |
| 15:26:16 | Llorean | Hi |
| 15:26:20 | Nico_P | I'm back home and I'll probably do a bit of coding today |
| 15:27:20 | obo | Llorean: it breaks after 13763/4 |
| 15:28:01 | Llorean | obo: Alright, you'll probably need to ask amiconn about it then. |
| 15:28:12 | obo | yup, will do |
| 15:28:50 | Llorean | It may just be that the #defines aren't fixed for bootloaders after that change, or something. |
| 15:29:13 | * | Llorean has no clue. |
| 15:35:17 | B4gder | still red |
| 15:38:11 | jhMikeS | eek |
| 15:38:36 | * | bluebrother searches ebay for broken minis ... |
| 15:38:51 | bluebrother | why do they get _that_ expensive? :( |
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| 15:42:00 | stripwax | bluebrother - because they can be pimped using 16GB CF cards? |
| 15:46:45 | bluebrother | well, I'd like to pimp one with a jtag connector (if I find out how to connect one ;-) |
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| 15:59:58 | stripwax | hm, so building wx and rbutil with -mno-cygwin still fails to build |
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| 16:00:08 | stripwax | undefined reference to ___imp___iob ? |
| 16:00:22 | Domonoky | i got the same.. |
| 16:01:14 | Domonoky | stripwax: are the samples of wx working ? |
| 16:01:30 | Domonoky | expecially a sample which uses wxURL and downloads something ? |
| 16:03:22 | | Part kretender |
| 16:04:55 | Domonoky | so i would say we leave this damn cygwin be, and just compile directly in windows :-) |
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| 16:07:27 | stripwax | Domonoky - depends what you mean by 'directly'... do I need to install (yet another) build environment? |
| 16:09:28 | Domonoky | stripwax: you need at least a compiler for windows.. |
| 16:09:38 | stripwax | gcc is a compiler for windows.. |
| 16:10:33 | Domonoky | sure.. but you need the windows version... i use Code::Blocks, it detects any installed compiler.. |
| 16:10:58 | Domonoky | and the you need to compile wxwidgets again.. for windows :-) |
| 16:11:41 | stripwax | Domonoky - isn't that what compiling wxwidgets using -mno-cygwin does anyway? |
| 16:11:43 | stripwax | confused |
| 16:12:23 | Domonoky | hm.. perhaps you can also use this wx version xou build, i dont know.. |
| 16:12:33 | Domonoky | about the Code::Blocks IDE: http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads.shtml |
| 16:12:52 | Domonoky | there is also a version with Mingw included, this should work.. |
| 16:13:10 | stripwax | guess i'll just have to keep trying. i've lost count of how many devenvs I have installed and really don't see the need to install any more.. |
| 16:13:16 | stripwax | mingw is included with cygwin |
| 16:13:59 | stripwax | curious. wxurl test indeed doesn't seem to work properly |
| 16:14:25 | Domonoky | so thats the problem.. :-/ |
| 16:15:29 | Domonoky | stripwax: i think you can use also one of those many Devenvs you already have installed, but i think cygwin itself is a bit troublesome :-) |
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| 16:40:58 | stripwax_ | back |
| 16:41:58 | JdGordon | as am I |
| 16:46:29 | stripwax_ | ok. new build errors, feel I'm getting closer. rebuilding wxwindows with #include <setjmp.h> added to src/png/png.h to see if that's the problem |
| 16:47:50 | stripwax_ | although it probably won't help now I think about it |
| 16:48:02 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: is the auto-updating radio debug screen coming back soon? :) |
| 16:48:12 | JdGordon | how badly you want it? |
| 16:48:24 | stripwax_ | dlesr |
| 16:48:26 | stripwax_ | oops! |
| 16:48:29 | stripwax_ | does rbutil need png? |
| 16:48:39 | jhMikeS | badly enough. it's really important for working with the Sanyo tuner. |
| 16:48:59 | JdGordon | it will do an update every timeout... (HZ/5 i tihnk) |
| 16:49:03 | JdGordon | too fast? |
| 16:49:25 | JdGordon | yeah, HZ/5 |
| 16:49:25 | bluebrother | stripwax_: it uses bin2c to convert png files to c |
| 16:49:47 | Domonoky | stripwax_: yes, for the themes |
| 16:49:49 | jhMikeS | that's enough |
| 16:50:01 | jhMikeS | thanks |
| 16:50:05 | stripwax_ | bluebrother - i mean would rbutil work if I recompiled wxwindows without native png support? |
| 16:50:14 | Domonoky | the buttons are also pngs, but are converted to an array |
| 16:50:28 | stripwax_ | it worked! |
| 16:50:32 | bluebrother | well, the icons get converted to cpp files, but I don't know what the resulting format is. |
| 16:50:43 | stripwax_ | I'm not sure what step actually worked, but, something worked, and rbutil built under cygwin |
| 16:50:48 | Domonoky | its png, as well as the theme images |
| 16:50:52 | bluebrother | it creates a huge array |
| 16:51:01 | Domonoky | stripwax_: test the downloading :-) |
| 16:51:14 | stripwax_ | works fine |
| 16:51:15 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: done |
| 16:51:16 | * | B4gder did a disguised offer for the remaining shirts on the dev list |
| 16:51:16 | stripwax_ | :-D |
| 16:51:22 | JdGordon | bah, nope |
| 16:51:31 | stripwax_ | hm, and even the bug I reported on irc a few days ago doesn't seem to manifest. |
| 16:51:38 | stripwax_ | this version works better than ever :-) |
| 16:51:40 | Domonoky | stripwax_: whoa.. now we need the steps needed for this :-) |
| 16:52:00 | * | stripwax_ tried lots of things in the end ... |
| 16:52:04 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 16:52:12 | * | JdGordon sticks hand up for a tshirt! |
| 16:52:17 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: now done |
| 16:52:27 | Domonoky | stripwax_: congrats :-) |
| 16:52:39 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - ok, here's what I *definitely* did, let me know if it works for you: |
| 16:52:51 | B4gder | JdGordon: then read my mail... |
| 16:53:00 | JdGordon | waiting for gmail... |
| 16:53:18 | stripwax_ | 1. configure wxwindows with ./configure −−without-expat −−disable-precomp-headers −−build=i686-pc-mingw32 −−disable-shared −−enable-debug −−enable-debug_gdb |
| 16:53:25 | bluebrother | JdGordon: or check the list archive ;-) |
| 16:53:45 | * | JdGordon not that smart at 1am |
| 16:53:48 | bluebrother | Guess there won't be a related event nearby for me :( |
| 16:54:11 | B4gder | unless you make one! |
| 16:54:11 | stripwax_ | 0. export CFLAGS=-mno-cygwin (and CXXFLAGS and CPPFLAGS) and export LDFLAGS="-mno-cygwin -mwindows" (before ./configure ;-) |
| 16:54:22 | stripwax_ | make wxwindows, and make install too |
| 16:54:25 | bluebrother | hmm. Anyone interested in an event? |
| 16:54:42 | stripwax_ | and I also added *all* of the following to the rbutil Makefile: |
| 16:54:57 | stripwax_ | -mno-cygwin -D__WIN32__ -mwindows -DNOMINMAX -DWIN32 |
| 16:55:17 | stripwax_ | plus your change to link the -win32.o rather than -posix.o objects |
| 16:56:33 | * | Domonoky is trying |
| 16:56:53 | stripwax_ | but I also added the following to wxwindows src/png/png.h line 1031, which may well not be necessary and in fact probably does nothing to help: |
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| 16:57:07 | stripwax_ | #ifdef PNG_SETJMP_SUPPORTED #include <setjmp.h> #endif |
| 16:57:10 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: undefined instuction at E59FFC1E :( |
| 16:57:24 | JdGordon | oh bugger... wtf? |
| 16:57:54 | JdGordon | hehe woops |
| 16:58:13 | Domonoky | stripwax_: it works :-) |
| 16:58:32 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - oh and I also added your suggestion to move the #includes from bootloader.cpp to bootloader.h |
| 16:58:36 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: fixed |
| 16:58:44 | stripwax_ | so, I have *no* idea which of those steps are necessary ;-D which did you do just now? |
| 16:59:01 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: ok...test in a second :) |
| 16:59:08 | Domonoky | i left out the changes in png.h , so they are not needed.. |
| 16:59:14 | JdGordon | forgot one silly if |
| 16:59:16 | stripwax_ | cool |
| 16:59:22 | JdGordon | need to figure out a better way to do this |
| 16:59:31 | stripwax_ | weird though, that was the *last* change I made before rebuilding (prior builds still didn't work) |
| 16:59:33 | Domonoky | i also didnt add -mwindows for compiling wxwidgets, only the mno_cygwin |
| 16:59:42 | stripwax_ | maybe I just needed to do some more 'make clean's along the way. |
| 16:59:46 | stripwax_ | oh, interesting |
| 16:59:58 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: you had only static screens in mind? |
| 16:59:59 | stripwax_ | I guess -mwindows is irrelevant for libraries - only executables |
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| 17:00:16 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: yeah |
| 17:00:51 | Domonoky | the -DNOMINMAX also isnt needed anymore, (because of the changes in bootloaders.h ) |
| 17:01:00 | JdGordon | ill rearrange the whole screen code to work better for dynamic screens |
| 17:01:12 | stripwax_ | yeah, I have just the sum total of all the suggestions so far ;) |
| 17:01:16 | Domonoky | -D__WIN32__ is also not needed.. :-) |
| 17:01:31 | Domonoky | i try to find the minimal modifications needed.. |
| 17:01:32 | jhMikeS | 'least it |
| 17:01:37 | jhMikeS | 's working now |
| 17:01:38 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - great!! |
| 17:04:03 | stripwax_ | Hm. Theme installation still doesn't work, (and didn't for me with the rbutil binary I got either). A bug with themes install in rbutil on windows? |
| 17:04:16 | stripwax_ | apparently the downloaded zip doesn't contain "the correct dir structure" |
| 17:04:17 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:04:35 | Lear | Anyone against me adding Nimbus 16? Same glyph size as Nimbus 14, but with a bigger gap between lines... :) |
| 17:04:51 | stripwax_ | thought there was a 16 already? |
| 17:05:18 | Domonoky | stripwax_: that could be a bug.. |
| 17:05:30 | stripwax_ | oh, 19. sorry! |
| 17:05:48 | stripwax_ | Domonoky- seems like it! I'll fix it, now I've got a working build! |
| 17:06:32 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 17:06:57 | Domonoky | is there a define which i can check in the Makefile, that i am on cygwin ?? |
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| 17:07:44 | stripwax_ | __CYGWIN__ I believe! |
| 17:08:43 | aliask | JdGordon: Let's have a rockbox meetup just to get those last shirts :D |
| 17:08:55 | JdGordon | aliask: I was thining the same |
| 17:09:12 | aliask | But does a two person meetup count :P |
| 17:09:25 | JdGordon | not good wasting a XL tshirt on me though, somone else can have it |
| 17:09:30 | Domonoky | __CYGWIN__ doesnt work :-/ |
| 17:09:36 | stripwax_ | oh :-( |
| 17:10:16 | aliask | Yeah, XL is a tad big... maybe Daniel assumed that we're all stereotypical overweight programmers :P |
| 17:11:51 | JdGordon | haha |
| 17:12:01 | * | JdGordon stopps hammering svn.rb for the night |
| 17:13:18 | aliask | Anyone know the frequencies for the oscillators on the gigabeat S off the top of their head ;) |
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| 17:15:45 | petur | Nico_P: will the new rebuffering code also fix FS #6426? |
| 17:16:31 | Nico_P | petur: it should |
| 17:16:43 | Nico_P | it's one of the deisng goals |
| 17:16:46 | petur | ok (just wanted to make sure) |
| 17:17:20 | JdGordon | hey Nico_P |
| 17:17:24 | JdGordon | hows it going? |
| 17:17:30 | Nico_P | hi :) |
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| 17:17:42 | Nico_P | fine... I'm back from a few days' vacation with friends |
| 17:19:00 | Nico_P | haven't done any work obviously |
| 17:20:58 | JdGordon | thats no excuse :D |
| 17:23:22 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - argh, seems rbutil doesn't work quite right when running in gdb. wtf? makes debugging .. harder .. |
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| 17:24:03 | Domonoky | stripwax_: add debugging symbols to rbutil, add -g to the CFLAGS |
| 17:24:03 | JdGordon | Nico_P: is the plugin still having problems, or is it working 100?% |
| 17:24:28 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - yeah, I know that .. I mean manual downloading doesn't *work* if launched from gdb .. :( |
| 17:24:44 | stripwax_ | or at least, doesn't seem to work for me |
| 17:25:32 | Nico_P | JdGordon: Llorean reported some problems with files not being exactly the right size |
| 17:25:41 | Domonoky | i will try, it but first i will make a working Makefile :-) |
| 17:25:55 | Nico_P | I haven't had time to investigate it for now... it only happens on his gigabeat |
| 17:26:01 | Nico_P | on the sim, the plugin works fine |
| 17:26:09 | stripwax_ | :-) I'm debugging the themes, so don't worry about it :) |
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| 17:26:42 | JdGordon | Nico_P: yeah, he mentioned that before, was just checking if you maybe fixed it already |
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| 17:26:45 | Domonoky | ah, the check for .rockbox in the zip ? |
| 17:27:27 | stripwax_ | hm, error actually is "failed to create a temporary file name (error 267: the directory name is invalid". somehow the "manual downloading" works without gdb, with gdb it gets the wrong temp path? |
| 17:27:42 | Tambu | hey guys trying out rockbox for the first time. I have an Ipod Video 80GB but I can't figure out how to tell whether I should use the Ipod Video or the Ipod Video 64MB version? Are all the 80GB ipod 64MB? Thx |
| 17:27:54 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - I don't know what the 'correct' structure should be for the theme zips but it's failing inside checkZip, yes. I'm stepping through it |
| 17:28:23 | stripwax_ | Tambu - you want the 64MB. all 80GB ipods are 64MB |
| 17:28:31 | Tambu | stripwax_: thx :) |
| 17:29:09 | Domonoky | stripwax_: checkZip, just trys to detect if there is a ".rockbox" dir in the zip. to prevent installing of themes, withouth the right structure |
| 17:29:31 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - clearly, but I want to know why it's failing ... |
| 17:30:07 | stripwax_ | entry->IsDir is false.. |
| 17:30:57 | stripwax_ | but I'm looking at the zipfile with my eyes and it contains a toplevel .rockbox dir |
| 17:31:10 | stripwax_ | woah. rbutil leaves crap in my documents and settings folder? grr |
| 17:31:41 | stripwax_ | including the fonts zip I downloaded yesterday and the day before. hmmm... |
| 17:32:23 | Domonoky | the zips are saved, for caching.. ( but this is onyl used when downloading archived builds, i think) |
| 17:32:33 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - entry->GetName() returns .rockbox\backdrops\mixtape.bmp (in this case). How would entry->IsDir ever be true? |
| 17:32:48 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - it seems to redownload anyway so I'm not sure caching is useful |
| 17:33:00 | stripwax_ | could be wrong. nothing seems to delete old .zips |
| 17:33:29 | Domonoky | stripwax_: you are right.. :-) |
| 17:33:46 | Domonoky | rbutil could need a bit housekeeping :-) |
| 17:34:04 | stripwax_ | indeed. it should use temporary files and delete them |
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| 17:34:21 | stripwax_ | quite why it thinks Application Data on Windows is appropriate for storing temp files I'm not sure.. |
| 17:34:26 | Domonoky | and checkZip is just poorly written, it expect the first entry to be the .rockbox dir :-) |
| 17:34:29 | stripwax_ | hm, how do i step backwards in gdb? |
| 17:36:16 | * | Domonoky doesnt know to much about gdb.. ( i use a graphic debugger :-) ) |
| 17:36:30 | Domonoky | or more, a frontend for gdb :-) |
| 17:37:15 | Nico_P | Domonoky: ddd ? |
| 17:37:17 | stripwax_ | Ok. Couldn't that entry->IsDir check just be removed? It's crazy, the toplevel directory could be called ".rockboxfoo" and it would still work, and it rejects ".rockbox/subdir", which is kindof like the opposite of what it should do |
| 17:37:39 | Domonoky | stripwax_: yes feel free to write a better check.. :-) |
| 17:37:56 | * | stripwax_ learns wxwindows api |
| 17:38:01 | stripwax_ | wxString .. gah.. |
| 17:38:27 | stripwax_ | ok, name.StartsWith(".rockbox/") would do the trick |
| 17:38:40 | Domonoky | yes, every gui lib uses its own string class, its annoying.. |
| 17:39:53 | stripwax_ | so if( (entry->IsDir() && 0== name.Cmp(".rockbox") ) || ( name.StartsWith(".rockbox/") ) |
| 17:40:54 | Domonoky | if the new themes repository checks the zip, we could even remove this check completly |
| 17:41:14 | stripwax_ | maybe. worth leaving it in anyway imo |
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| 17:42:19 | stripwax_ | tbh the .pngs should be cached, not the .zips |
| 17:43:08 | Domonoky | yes, Cassandra made the caching for the rockbox zips, and when i build the theme page, i forgot to add chaching for this.. |
| 17:43:33 | stripwax_ | why are the rockbox zips cached? |
| 17:43:44 | stripwax_ | is it so you can install the same rockbox build on multiple devices? |
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| 17:45:25 | Domonoky | i dont know for sure, but at the time this was written, i think we recommended daily builds, now we recommend the recent build, and this doesnt make sense to cache (and the cache isnt used for this) |
| 17:45:45 | stripwax_ | right |
| 17:45:51 | Domonoky | still those zip are not deleted.. so a bit housekeeping is needed.. |
| 17:46:14 | Nico_P | JdGordon: I think my latest commit may have screwed some things up |
| 17:46:27 | stripwax_ | if it's done thru temp files it ought to work automatically. maybe that's just a win32 thing though so wxwindows might not be able to do that |
| 17:46:46 | Nico_P | the plugin used to output all my files perfeclty and in the test I just ran only one got out right |
| 17:46:51 | Domonoky | stripwax_: i think there is soem thing like tempfiles in wx |
| 17:46:54 | Nico_P | (on target) |
| 17:47:09 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - do they get automatically deleted? if so should use them |
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| 17:48:03 | * | Domonoky has to look at the doku |
| 17:49:08 | stripwax_ | ok, checkZip fixed and then it fails on something else, bah. Failed to open the file on the device, error 3, "the system cannot find the path specified". Path is G:\\.rockbox\wps\Mixtape\mixtape.bmp . surely that's too many backslashes? |
| 17:49:32 | Domonoky | hm. wxTemFile is designed to savely repace a file, but perhaps it can also be used for this.. |
| 17:49:41 | stripwax_ | and then it hangs |
| 17:49:43 | Domonoky | the slashes arent a problem |
| 17:50:04 | stripwax_ | sure? |
| 17:50:14 | Domonoky | yes it works for me :-) |
| 17:50:25 | stripwax_ | theme installation on win32 works for you? |
| 17:50:46 | Domonoky | yes, even the cygwin build one |
| 17:51:03 | stripwax_ | looks like rbutil hasn't even attempted to create the .rockbox\wps\Mixtape directory. So no wonder it can't open a file in that dir. |
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| 17:51:16 | stripwax_ | is the unzip fn missing an arg to tell it to create missing dirs or something? |
| 17:51:23 | Domonoky | i G: a valid drive letter ? |
| 17:51:27 | stripwax_ | maybe I'll try "installing" something that already exists |
| 17:51:38 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - ... yes .. ! |
| 17:51:58 | Domonoky | you can install to any drive letter, thats good for testing :-) |
| 17:52:00 | stripwax_ | it's my ipod. it's supposed to be, no? |
| 17:52:18 | stripwax_ | after I've figured out how to unhang it |
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| 17:54:22 | stripwax_ | Ok, if *I* create the subdirectory on my device first, it works. but that's poor. i'll see if rbutil is just missing that flag to create subdirectories on the device.. |
| 17:55:56 | stripwax_ | ok the hang is because UnzipFile doesn't clear up the progressbar . |
| 17:57:01 | stripwax_ | it just returns in the middle of the fn. |
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| 18:01:18 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - out of interest how come themes work for you when they always fail on the checkZip test for me? Does IsDir somehow succeed for you? Wonder if you're using a different zlib from me, that iterates the entries in a different order |
| 18:01:46 | Domonoky | stripwax_: that sounds like it.. |
| 18:02:32 | Domonoky | for me the .rockbox dir is the first entry.. |
| 18:02:53 | stripwax_ | hm. or. rbutil.cpp doesn't actually try to create destdir on the device. so I really don't see how it works for you! does it work for you even if you try to install a theme you've never installed before? |
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| 18:03:54 | stripwax_ | oh, unless IsDir does something different for you. yeah, could be a zlib thing. messy. |
| 18:07:35 | Domonoky | stripwax_: Unzip creates the dir.. line 335 |
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| 18:15:27 | Domonoky | this damn Makefile.. adding things to the OBJS variable, works but not for CFLAGS ?? .. arg.. |
| 18:19:21 | Domonoky | ah, found the error, the define for cygwin is still not right.. :-/ |
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| 18:21:39 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - doesn't create for me .. :( |
| 18:23:04 | Domonoky | stripwax_: which check is failing from lien 335 on ? the IsDir check ? |
| 18:24:06 | stripwax_ | not sure, haven't stepped into that part yet. seems it just ignores even trying to create the dir so assume IsDir never returns true. As I mentioned, the first entry in the zipfile is just a file. looks like the entry is *never* just the dir itself |
| 18:24:33 | Domonoky | it seems that it depend that in the zips, the dir comes first before the files in that dir.. |
| 18:25:25 | Domonoky | so when you enumerate the Zip there is no entry ".rockbox" before an entry like ".rockbox/bla.bmp" ? |
| 18:27:09 | stripwax_ | that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm going to rewrite the code to use wxFileName.GetPath and just always create that path if it doesn't exist |
| 18:27:11 | stripwax_ | make sense? |
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| 18:30:14 | Domonoky | stripwax_: yes.. |
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| 18:37:33 | * | Domonoky cant find a define which is defined in Cygwin in the Makefiles.. :-/ |
| 18:37:52 | * | Domonoky needs something like ifdef CYGWIN .. :-/ |
| 18:41:39 | stripwax_ | G_WITH_CYGWIN ? |
| 18:43:48 | Domonoky | is not defined :-/ |
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| 18:45:24 | stripwax_ | hm. sure __CYGWIN__ doesn't work? |
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| 18:45:30 | stripwax_ | gotta go .. back tomorrow i expect |
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| 18:45:48 | Domonoky | haha, i found something.. some shell magic :-) |
| 18:46:07 | Domonoky | ifneq ($(strip $(shell gcc -v 2>&1 | grep "cygwin")),) |
| 18:46:07 | Domonoky | CYGWIN := 1 |
| 18:46:07 | Domonoky | endif |
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| 18:47:57 | Tambu | Anyone use RockBox for audiobooks? was trying to find a solution to my audiobook problems. but it seems that rockbox doesn't seem to play large audio books in a single file. |
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| 18:50:03 | Llorean | Tambu: Rockbox plays large files of any sort but M4A, I believe |
| 18:50:24 | Tambu | llorean: ah.. that would be the problem it's m4b :) |
| 18:50:37 | Llorean | Try something like speex. Better compression too |
| 18:50:51 | Tambu | hrm. will it bookmark? |
| 18:51:26 | Llorean | Rockbox supports bookmarks in any of the supported formats that have seeking enabled, which is basically every streamable format but WMA. |
| 18:51:48 | Tambu | llorean awesome I'll start looking that up thx |
| 18:52:28 | Tambu | stupid question but anyone know what happens if you plug in an IPOD with rockbox into an alpine car stero? (normall it loads ipods) I'm guessing rockbox won't be support though? |
| 18:53:35 | Daishiman | Hey all. I have a rockboxed iRiver iHP-120 (awesome player). Works great, but i was wondering how far along the rockbox port for the iPod has come along that I can recommend it to technical or non-technical friends. |
| 18:54:01 | Nico_P | Llorean: do you remember which rev of my buffering test plugin you were using for your tests ? |
| 18:54:38 | Llorean | Nico_P: It was from SVN revision 46 |
| 18:54:42 | Nico_P | ok |
| 18:55:05 | Nico_P | I've tested again on my gigabeat and got incorrect files too |
| 18:55:30 | Nico_P | at first I thought it was because of my changes from r46 but it doesn't appear to be the case |
| 18:56:55 | Llorean | Is it always 4 bytes? I didn't really do thorough testing to see if it was always the last 4 or anything like that |
| 18:57:54 | * | Domonoky just commited the fix to build rbutil in cygwin.. ( and added the info how to compile wx for cygwin to the wiki) |
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| 18:58:06 | Nico_P | it seems to be at most 4 bytes, but one of my files is longer than the buffer and is completely wrong (only a few KB when it should be 69 MB) |
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| 19:08:39 | kkurbjun | markun are you around? |
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| 19:19:24 | gregj | still crashes on ipod photo :/ |
| 19:19:37 | gregj | you guys have changed something , in arm handling ? |
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| 19:30:04 | gregj | yes |
| 19:30:53 | obo | if you're compiling your own builds, have you looked that up in the map file? |
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| 19:32:07 | Nico_P | gregj: amiconn has made quite some changes to portalplayer frequency handling |
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| 19:34:32 | gregj | Nico_P: again... |
| 19:34:33 | gregj | damn |
| 19:34:38 | gregj | :P |
| 19:34:47 | gregj | obo: how do i do that ? |
| 19:35:19 | obo | have a look at apps/rockbox.map in your build folder |
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| 19:35:35 | petur | afaik the map files for the official builds should be online somewhere |
| 19:36:13 | gregj | it is happening for my own builds as well, so I go for this one |
| 19:36:44 | petur | thats easier ;) |
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| 19:38:09 | obo | petur: are they? I can remember it being talked about, but can't ever remember seeing them |
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| 19:38:46 | petur | I can't find them too... *looks at Bagder* |
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| 19:39:23 | obo | hehe - I've got a patch that adds maps to buildzip.pl |
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| 20:05:15 | Davide-NYC | petur: the recording gain ranges are wrong. I suspect the menu changes may have affected this. There is nothing usable at any level that come out of 52.5 dB (or even 42.5 dB) gain settings. Just noise. |
| 20:05:41 | Davide-NYC | It used to ba a much more limited range. |
| 20:05:51 | Davide-NYC | Not sure when the change occured. |
| 20:05:55 | petur | Davide-NYC: it is just whhat the hardware supports |
| 20:06:07 | petur | it has always been like that afaik |
| 20:06:26 | Davide-NYC | IIRC the ranges where tighter |
| 20:06:48 | petur | then we have a difference in recalling |
| 20:06:59 | petur | you suggest we limit the range? |
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| 20:07:12 | Davide-NYC | Absolutely. |
| 20:07:22 | Davide-NYC | Nothing usable up there in the 40s |
| 20:07:36 | Davide-NYC | the thing distorts itself even without input |
| 20:07:44 | petur | the rockbox way of working is to offer everything the hardware offers |
| 20:08:01 | petur | hmmm |
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| 20:08:32 | Davide-NYC | the hardware offers a huge range unnecessarily and is "out of spec" with anything useable. This is by design generally I think. |
| 20:08:59 | petur | we have to offer some options to allow rockbox to sound like a bag of shit... |
| 20:09:00 | Davide-NYC | I'll try an older buidl |
| 20:09:06 | Davide-NYC | Haha |
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| 20:10:11 | petur | does it hurt anybody? |
| 20:10:54 | * | petur is just lazy - sitting outside and the player is inside... |
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| 20:14:26 | Davide-NYC | loaded a build from 06-14, same thing. I gues I remembered wrong |
| 20:15:07 | petur | nothing was changed in that area in about a year, so you'll have to go back more |
| 20:16:04 | Davide-NYC | no it's fine. I'm dropping it. I guess I just never set my input gain to anything that crazy before which proves your point that it doesn't really hurt anybody and is what the hardware allows |
| 20:16:31 | petur | I did spot a minor issue when checking your remark |
| 20:16:35 | Davide-NYC | It would be more 'industry standard' to limit levels a bit. |
| 20:16:48 | Davide-NYC | wassat? |
| 20:16:56 | PaulJam | Davide-NYC: i think some time ago the analog and digital gain settings were separate, maybe thats why you remember the settings to be lower. |
| 20:18:03 | petur | the AGC max value is the same for line-in and mic, so it ends up limiting mic to the max line-in level |
| 20:18:17 | petur | or something like that |
| 20:18:23 | Davide-NYC | which is 48 dB right? |
| 20:18:45 | Davide-NYC | I don't fully understand AGC as I almost never use it. |
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| 20:19:21 | Davide-NYC | No worries. it's fine the way it is. Users should have the good sens to 'turn it down' if it's distorting. |
| 20:19:43 | petur | well it isn't that either, but something isn't right in that area |
| 20:19:43 | petur | nothing important ;) |
| 20:20:22 | petur | AGC adds a max gain setting that also limits the amount of gain you can set by hand |
| 20:20:40 | petur | some use it as a safeguard against themselves |
| 20:20:46 | Davide-NYC | Maybe I had that set to 32 dB! |
| 20:20:55 | petur | could be |
| 20:20:59 | Davide-NYC | Maybe we should set the default to 32 dB? |
| 20:21:07 | petur | nah |
| 20:21:15 | Davide-NYC | nah dude, yeah. |
| 20:21:20 | Davide-NYC | we should. |
| 20:21:29 | petur | lol |
| 20:21:39 | * | Davide-NYC thinks it's a good idea for the record. :-) |
| 20:22:10 | petur | ok, so add a feature request and I'll close it :p |
| 20:22:25 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 20:23:01 | petur | the problem is, 1) the AGC max gain is a bit hidden, and most users will wonder why the gain is limited and never find out |
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| 20:23:14 | petur | 2) the max gain is the same for mic and line-in |
| 20:23:37 | petur | and I don't know if it is worth splitting that setting just for this sake |
| 20:23:54 | petur | and allowing line-in full range does make some sense |
| 20:24:33 | Davide-NYC | You're right, but we're giving the users at least one way to make rockbox sound like the bag of shit mentioned earlier. |
| 20:24:43 | petur | yup |
| 20:24:50 | Davide-NYC | Okie Dokie |
| 20:25:37 | petur | a user setting mic gain to +50, experiencing distortion and not knowing what is happening shouldn't be recording in the first place |
| 20:26:04 | Davide-NYC | I only discovered it by leaning on the player while recording and was like WTF! |
| 20:26:17 | petur | it's like a user complaining his headphones sound loud because he set volume to max |
| 20:26:25 | Davide-NYC | In two+ years of using the thing. |
| 20:26:29 | Davide-NYC | So you;re right |
| 20:26:51 | Davide-NYC | gotta run |
| 20:26:54 | Davide-NYC | LLRB |
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| 21:10:07 | gregj | obo: it crashes in set_cpu_frequency |
| 21:10:13 | gregj | 58D6C |
| 21:10:24 | gregj | 0x00058c48 set_cpu_frequency |
| 21:10:51 | petur | austriancoder: ping |
| 21:13:13 | petur | does anybody think that http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7337 is _not_ a hardware issue? |
| 21:14:43 | Soul-Slayer | Strange it happens to both |
| 21:14:53 | Soul-Slayer | But the fact he said it happens even when in OF and when switched off... |
| 21:15:34 | petur | the gigabeat issue is probably unrelated |
| 21:16:54 | Soul-Slayer | Yeah, the RTC resets whenever the battery runs out of charge or the battery is switched off anyway |
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| 21:34:50 | BHSPitMonkey_ | aren't there tools for dumping stuff from within windows exe's? (e.g. firmware images...) |
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| 21:43:18 | obo | gregj: sounds like something for amiconn |
| 21:44:03 | obo | but for now you can try disabling HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ in your targets config file (firmware/export/config-...) |
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| 21:49:34 | gregj | amiconn: yup, mate, you broke it again ;) |
| 21:49:46 | amiconn | ? |
| 21:49:54 | gregj | http://www.theindychannel.com/entertainment/13645513/detail.html |
| 21:50:02 | gregj | amiconn: the freq scaling on arm/ipod |
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| 21:52:38 | amiconn | I didn't change anything after July 8 |
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| 21:53:06 | amiconn | This is the most accurate code, and there are no reproducable crash reports |
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| 21:54:31 | chuckwag0n | why does the scroll speed make no difference when changing it? |
| 21:54:40 | chuckwag0n | for: ipod video |
| 21:56:18 | kkurbju1 | amiconn, on the arm targets is there a way to remap memory.. on the gigabeat there's the mmu, but is there another way |
| 21:57:09 | kkurbju1 | I'm trying to find the 4k sram in the gigabeat and it's not at the address that the DS documents and the original bootloader uses |
| 21:57:39 | kkurbju1 | so I'm wondering if it was remapped to a new location |
| 21:58:17 | * | amiconn has no idea |
| 21:58:27 | amiconn | The PP as memory remapping registers |
| 21:58:29 | amiconn | gtg |
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| 22:01:47 | hcs | chuckwag0n: the "scroll speed" controls how fast lines of text that don't fit on the screen vertically will scroll |
| 22:01:53 | hcs | *horizontally |
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| 22:14:12 | * | ender` yawns |
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| 22:17:20 | markun | kkurbju1: sram should be at 0x400000000 (I hope the number of 0's is right) |
| 22:18:37 | gregj | obo: so, he isn't guilty |
| 22:18:50 | toffe82 | markun: I think you know, the logs are down on gigabeat |
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| 22:20:31 | kkurbju1 | markun, that's where I'm looking, but I can't write to that memory |
| 22:21:08 | kkurbju1 | 0x40000000 |
| 22:21:24 | kkurbju1 | I'm using physical addresses too |
| 22:21:33 | kkurbju1 | so I'm bypassing the mmu |
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| 22:23:04 | kkurbju1 | I don't think the s3c2440's memory controller can effect the addresses either though so I'm at a bit of a loss |
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| 22:28:24 | kkurbjun | markun, do you know of any other ways to remap the memory than the mmu? |
| 22:29:33 | markun | kkurbjun: well, we mapped all the physical addresses to the same virtual addresses |
| 22:29:38 | markun | except for sdram |
| 22:29:46 | markun | toffe82: yes, I know |
| 22:29:55 | markun | I'll write him a message |
| 22:30:08 | markun | can you ask around if someone has the logs to send to shonky? |
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| 22:31:34 | toffe82 | markun: I will try but I try to recover from the problem I had this week and I am not really on the channel actually .. :( |
| 22:31:45 | markun | toffe82: still sick? |
| 22:31:56 | toffe82 | yes |
| 22:31:59 | markun | serious? |
| 22:32:03 | scorche | markun: i have some (like last time), but i upgraded my client recently and forgot to enable logging =/ |
| 22:32:48 | toffe82 | markun : not really serious but can't do too much thing, I am good 2 hours then fever then good ... |
| 22:33:22 | markun | Soap: do you keep logs of the #gigabeat channel? |
| 22:33:38 | toffe82 | markun: last time I had this, it took me more than a week to recover completely |
| 22:33:46 | markun | anoying |
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| 22:40:36 | petur | kkurbjun: is there a reason you're not committing 7379? |
| 22:40:53 | kkurbjun | petur, is that the rockboy one? |
| 22:40:59 | petur | yes |
| 22:41:37 | kkurbjun | yes, I have a fully rewritten driver from vba that I want to commit, |
| 22:41:55 | kkurbjun | I just want to get the right headers in it |
| 22:42:04 | petur | oh ok |
| 22:42:28 | kkurbjun | it sounds much better now than that last one, and I was able to get rid of some of the large tables |
| 22:42:42 | kkurbjun | so now more gmaes will fit in memory while music is playing |
| 22:42:54 | kkurbjun | on the gigabeat that is |
| 22:49:21 | markun | kkurbjun: planning to work on other emus? (sega for example) |
| 22:50:49 | kkurbjun | :), I really want to get rolo working on the gigabeat first.. |
| 22:51:06 | kkurbjun | and maybe flash booting depending on interest/time |
| 22:51:28 | kkurbjun | I don't know arm ASM or asm in general that well and it's slowing me down quite a bit |
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| 22:52:27 | kkurbjun | for example can someone tell me the proper way to write this: mov r2,#0x01FFFFFF |
| 22:52:27 | kkurbjun | str r2,=0x56000004 |
| 22:52:35 | kkurbjun | sorry, that's two lines |
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| 22:59:29 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: ldr r2, =#0x01FFFFFF mov r1, #0x56000000 str r2, [r1, #4] |
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| 23:01:35 | kkurbjun | jhMikeS, why load 0x56000000 instead of 0x56000004? |
| 23:01:47 | jhMikeS | it's more than 8 bits wide |
| 23:01:50 | entheh | yay for ARM |
| 23:02:05 | kkurbjun | ahh |
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| 23:04:00 | kkurbjun | hmm, I get bad expression `ldr r2,=#0x01FFFFFF' |
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| 23:06:34 | jhMikeS | ummm... or is it ldr, r2, =0x01ffffff ?? |
| 23:07:16 | jhMikeS | ignore the first comma :P |
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| 23:08:04 | kkurbjun | that compiles |
| 23:08:24 | kkurbjun | will that load the constant 0x01FFFFFF? |
| 23:08:30 | jhMikeS | yes |
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| 23:08:53 | kkurbjun | ok, great, and I'm writing that to address 0x56000000 |
| 23:08:57 | kkurbjun | +4 |
| 23:09:00 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 23:09:01 | kkurbjun | :) |
| 23:09:04 | kkurbjun | thanks |
| 23:09:50 | kkurbjun | that doesn't increment R1 after does it? |
| 23:10:51 | * | petur notices flyspray is spraying php errors again :/ |
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| 23:11:27 | webguest64 | HI! |
| 23:11:34 | petur | ho |
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| 23:11:55 | webguest64 | Does anyone know if it is possible to pass a variable from the pluin to the main program? |
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| 23:12:17 | webguest64 | Sorry, that's plug-in, not pluin... |
| 23:13:03 | petur | the return value? |
| 23:13:28 | webguest64 | I tried to change that, but then I get a 'plug in returned error" statement |
| 23:13:52 | petur | true |
| 23:15:23 | webguest64 | I tried to make a global variable, but it didn't seem to work. |
| 23:15:53 | webguest64 | I guess I have to use some sort of RB-> command, eh? |
| 23:15:55 | petur | you could pass a pointer |
| 23:16:14 | webguest64 | how'd I do that? |
| 23:16:56 | petur | in rockbox, create the variable, and pass &myvar to the plugin |
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| 23:17:17 | petur | in the plugin, you can access the variable as *myvar |
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| 23:18:38 | webguest64 | I'll give that a try. Thanks! |
| 23:18:47 | webguest64 | Also, can you start a plug-in from the program. Like after a button press? |
| 23:18:55 | petur | sure |
| 23:19:04 | webguest64 | How? |
| 23:19:15 | petur | have a look at how the version/credits or file/dir properties are done |
| 23:19:43 | webguest64 | Sorry? |
| 23:20:14 | petur | file properties is implemented as a plugin, it is called from the file tree code |
| 23:20:26 | petur | so that would be your example |
| 23:21:17 | webguest64 | I'll check it out. Thanks again. |
| 23:21:42 | petur | look in apps/onplay.c |
| 23:21:50 | petur | line 637 |
| 23:24:13 | webguest64 | So you mean filetype_load_plugin? |
| 23:25:02 | petur | that line loads properties.rock with selected_file as argument |
| 23:26:12 | petur | hmmm version/credits must do it another way |
| 23:26:47 | petur | apps/menus/main_menu.c line 119 |
| 23:27:00 | petur | better example |
| 23:27:25 | petur | replace NULL with &myvariable |
| 23:27:50 | saratoga | is there some good guide to arm assembly programming beyond the arm7tdmi datasheet? |
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| 23:28:03 | saratoga | that thing is pretty difficult to follow, even by microcontroller standards |
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| 23:29:49 | webguest64 | Just one more thing, how do I pass &myvar to the plugin |
| 23:30:08 | petur | [23:27] <petur> replace NULL with &myvariable |
| 23:30:42 | petur | probably better (void*)&myvar |
| 23:31:07 | webguest64 | Sorry, you said that didn't you... |
| 23:31:40 | * | petur likes to talk to himself |
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| 23:33:13 | webguest64 | So, if I get this right, I need to start the plugin, pass the variable pointer, and then change it in the plugin. |
| 23:33:39 | webguest64 | But, if I start the plugin some other way, I cannot change the variable. Is that right? |
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| 23:35:54 | hcs | oh, goody, gigabeat bootloader fails |
| 23:36:29 | petur | webguest64: are you sure you're up to what you're trying? |
| 23:36:48 | finger008 | Hi! I hope this hasn't ben asked too often before... Is future support for 2nd gen Nano planned? Or is it simply not possible? |
| 23:38:04 | petur | finger008: when somebody manages to decrypt the original firmware... |
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| 23:38:27 | finger008 | Ah. OK, thanks. |
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