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| 00:06:40 | webguest64 | probably better (void*)&myvar |
| 00:06:49 | webguest64 | what do you mean by this? |
| 00:07:20 | webguest64 | I've tried what you suggested, but I cannot use *myvariable in the plugin |
| 00:09:26 | Domonoky | scorche: where there any consideration about icon sets, for the new theme repository ? |
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| 00:09:52 | scorche | Domonoky: not really... |
| 00:10:03 | scorche | should there be? |
| 00:10:09 | Domonoky | the question is, should those iconsets considered as part of themes, or as soemthing extra.. |
| 00:10:59 | scorche | they are a part of the theme imo, but i am not sure if they should be treated as anything other than "if you have a particular iconset, include it in the zip" |
| 00:11:08 | Domonoky | and the FMPresets are another set of data, where it would be good to have something like a repository.. :-) |
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| 00:12:01 | scorche | perhaps, but they have nothing to do with themes and they arent something that require a repository like the new one with the actual viewing of that data |
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| 00:12:57 | Domonoky | no for the FMPresets, it would be more the managing things, and of course rbutil.. :-) |
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| 00:13:21 | scorche | ah...that was what you were getting at =) |
| 00:13:40 | Domonoky | at the moment there are various zips for the FMPresets, which is bad to update.. and its not aviable for rbutil :-) |
| 00:13:45 | scorche | having the php page for rbutil to easily pull them off |
| 00:13:59 | varek | are there any plans to support 2g ipods ? |
| 00:14:15 | scorche | varek: we dont really make plans for new targets |
| 00:14:24 | varek | i see |
| 00:14:25 | Bagder | varek: amiconn is considering taking it up |
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| 00:23:28 | webguest64 | petur: yeah, I've just been learning all this, but I have made many changes, and it is worth the effort |
| 00:23:50 | petur | have fun |
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| 00:24:15 | scorche | Bagder: up late tonight? =P |
| 00:25:04 | Bagder | well, when I can't do spare time hacks from work I have to sacrifice sleep instead ;-) |
| 00:25:37 | * | Bagder backspaces over that to hide for his bosses |
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| 00:25:41 | Bagder | :-P |
| 00:25:46 | scorche | /clear |
| 00:25:56 | scorche | hurry!...to the logs! |
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| 00:37:16 | saratoga | wow matlab really doesn't like it when i copy and paste an array of 16000 fixed point numbers in |
| 00:37:24 | saratoga | they really need to work on making that program not suck |
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| 00:59:23 | Bawitdaba | there a lot of problems with rockbox on ipod 5.5 80gb? |
| 00:59:35 | Bawitdaba | i hear a lot of people cant turn them on after they put rockbox on it |
| 00:59:39 | Bawitdaba | like it wont boot |
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| 01:00:38 | Soul-Slayer | I haven't heard such a thing |
| 01:00:43 | Soul-Slayer | Where did you hear this? |
| 01:00:54 | saratoga | power up is handled by Apple's firmware, so it wouldn't be a rockbox issue |
| 01:01:27 | Soul-Slayer | Infact I'm not aware of anyone bricking an ipod (Short of the devs anyway) |
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| 01:27:02 | dmon | hi, i need some help with my ipod mini 2nd gen: i havent charged it for a while and now its not charging anymore, its not recognized by any computer, on reset i see the battery symbol with the flash. i would like to boot into the old firmware to clean up but i cant manage to get there... |
| 01:27:24 | scorche | have you tried using a wall adapter? |
| 01:27:36 | dmon | nope, sorry. i dont have one |
| 01:27:44 | dmon | just usb cable |
| 01:28:02 | scorche | hrm...you might want to get one, or at least borrow one from someone |
| 01:28:21 | dmon | did a reset to get the symbol and connected then for some hours |
| 01:28:48 | scorche | otherwise, plug it in to a known good (in regards to power output) USB port for a long time (can be as long as 48 hours) |
| 01:29:59 | dmon | with reset to get the battery symbol or without that? |
| 01:31:18 | scorche | if you wish...if you can, get it into disk mode |
| 01:33:18 | scorche | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=11519.0 is a topic with some helpful advice, but just pay attention to those who are suggesting ideas =) |
| 01:35:03 | dmon | okay, thank you very much :-) |
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| 01:40:32 | dmon | it doesnt reacts on diag mode or disk mode. so i'll be charging it for some days... thanks again for your assistance :-) |
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| 02:06:57 | mooser | hi |
| 02:07:29 | mooser | anyone know if mpegplayer will have rewind and fastforward features anytime soon |
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| 02:44:56 | webguest51 | hy |
| 02:45:21 | webguest51 | can i organize the order of main menu? |
| 02:45:49 | Soul-Slayer | Not without editing the source, no |
| 02:46:19 | webguest51 | why the volume of the sound came to negative? |
| 02:47:01 | Soul-Slayer | It's to make it easier for Line Out I believe, so you know 0dB is the line out value |
| 02:47:10 | Soul-Slayer | Could be wrong but that's what I've always thought |
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| 02:48:07 | scorche | webguest51: because a decibel rating has an actual meaning instead of a percentage value |
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| 02:48:40 | Buschel | for amplifiers dB-values are used. 0dB = full volume, -xdB = lower volume. even my hifi-amp has such |
| 02:48:44 | scorche | most high-end sound systems have the volume displayed that wasy as well |
| 02:49:16 | Soul-Slayer | Rather impressive that I can hear negative decibels though (H) |
| 02:49:18 | scorche | 0dB doesnt mean full volume, per say...it means line level |
| 02:49:27 | webguest51 | there area |
| 02:49:31 | scorche | Soul-Slayer: it is in relation to the line level... |
| 02:49:40 | webguest51 | there are a possibility to add lyrics? |
| 02:49:54 | Buschel | scorche: you're right. |
| 02:50:07 | scorche | you can add lyrics if you wish, but viewing them is a different matter =) |
| 02:50:26 | Soul-Slayer | Using the sncviewer patch would allow that |
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| 02:50:36 | Soul-Slayer | Goodbye then. |
| 02:51:07 | Soap | markun, I believe I only have the last 3 days of #gigabeat |
| 02:52:33 | trina_limao | my ipod nano dont have microfone, can i turn off the recording menu? |
| 02:52:37 | trina_limao | disable it? |
| 02:52:40 | scorche | i have a gap from the 1st tot he 11th =/ |
| 02:53:01 | scorche | trina_limao: your ipod nano can record through the line in as well |
| 02:53:14 | trina_limao | line in? |
| 02:53:32 | scorche | there is a line in through the dock connector |
| 02:54:02 | trina_limao | it means that i can turn on a mic in jack and record sound? |
| 02:54:53 | scorche | line in isnt necessarily a mic in, but yes if you got the right connector |
| 02:56:03 | trina_limao | oh great |
| 02:59:45 | trina_limao | whitc means the icon on the top right? near the clock? |
| 02:59:55 | trina_limao | it appear, and then disapear... |
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| 03:00:04 | Soul-Slayer | Hard disk in use |
| 03:00:17 | Soul-Slayer | Comes on when there is HDD activite, in your case, flash memory activity lol |
| 03:00:29 | Soul-Slayer | So it's reading/writing |
| 03:00:48 | scorche | "dish activity" is typicalyl easier to say ;) |
| 03:00:51 | scorche | errr |
| 03:00:57 | scorche | s/dish/disk |
| 03:01:02 | Soul-Slayer | Heh |
| 03:01:17 | Soul-Slayer | But can you really call flash memory a 'disk'? |
| 03:03:31 | trina_limao | in video there are now a possibility to change to the next video and do a forwarnd and backward? |
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| 03:03:44 | scorche | not yet, no |
| 03:03:57 | scorche | Soul-Slayer: never heard of a "flash disk?" |
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| 03:04:48 | trina_limao | can i put a password to acesso rockbox? |
| 03:04:57 | scorche | no |
| 03:06:09 | Soul-Slayer | No I haven't, if I'm honest. |
| 03:06:21 | Soul-Slayer | Always referred to them as 'Flash drives' |
| 03:06:57 | Soul-Slayer | Learn something every day I guess |
| 03:07:12 | scorche | i have heard them called "flash disks" many times, but yes drive is the proper terminology |
| 03:11:03 | trina_limao | there are a possibility to change icons to more bigs~? |
| 03:11:37 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=CustomIcons |
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| 03:24:36 | trina_limao | only have a one keyboard? dont have a keyboard like a PDA? |
| 03:25:02 | trina_limao | its little |
| 03:25:07 | trina_limao | and confuse |
| 03:25:16 | scorche | hrm? |
| 03:25:20 | trina_limao | ? |
| 03:25:20 | Soul-Slayer | Eh? |
| 03:25:56 | trina_limao | virtual keyborad |
| 03:26:01 | trina_limao | are confused |
| 03:26:29 | Soul-Slayer | Ohh... You mean having a virtual keyboard like a little qwerty keyboard? |
| 03:26:37 | Soul-Slayer | Instead of characters on random sreens? |
| 03:26:54 | trina_limao | yes |
| 03:27:02 | Soul-Slayer | Doesn't exist, no. |
| 03:27:23 | Soul-Slayer | You can type in morse code though, that's gotta be better than 100 qwerty keyboards |
| 03:27:47 | Soul-Slayer | ... Why isn't there a QWERTY keyboard type virtual keyboard actually? Aswell as the default and morsecode? |
| 03:28:04 | Soul-Slayer | I mean, I don't use it often, but why isn't it there? |
| 03:28:20 | trina_limao | forget |
| 03:28:28 | trina_limao | thanks to all |
| 03:28:40 | trina_limao | its mt firt day with rockbox |
| 03:28:46 | Soul-Slayer | Enjoy ^^ |
| 03:28:58 | trina_limao | and i like it very |
| 03:29:13 | trina_limao | i will try ipodlinux too |
| 03:29:28 | trina_limao | anyone have experience with ipodlinux? |
| 03:29:36 | Soul-Slayer | Everyone in #ipodlinux does |
| 03:29:38 | trina_limao | its better than rockbox? |
| 03:29:42 | trina_limao | lolo :) |
| 03:29:47 | Soul-Slayer | You can't really compare them |
| 03:30:00 | trina_limao | its more hard to instal |
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| 03:35:31 | Soap | IPL is linux on your iPod. |
| 03:35:33 | Soap | Wow |
| 03:35:40 | Soap | Rockbox is a music player for your iPod. |
| 03:38:10 | trina_limao | where i find gameboy games for rockbox? |
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| 03:38:16 | Soul-Slayer | Google. |
| 03:38:29 | Soul-Slayer | About as much info I can give |
| 03:39:03 | webguest03 | btw, concerning the keyboard layout: you can load/create your custom layout that uses teh uifont. see here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts |
| 03:40:04 | Soul-Slayer | Interesting... Thanks |
| 03:40:56 | trina_limao | ook tanks |
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| 03:52:23 | trina_limao | caracters like ç and â ă arent show in my ipod? |
| 03:52:36 | trina_limao | which charset did i choose? |
| 03:52:46 | trina_limao | codepage? |
| 03:53:13 | trina_limao | im in portugal |
| 03:53:19 | scorche | trina_limao: choose a unicode font |
| 03:53:21 | trina_limao | here we use acentuation |
| 03:53:39 | trina_limao | utf8? |
| 03:53:58 | trina_limao | i have choosed it but without sucess? |
| 03:54:10 | trina_limao | must i reebot ipod to assume newest definition? |
| 03:54:31 | scorche | no...as long as you chose a unicode font, it should show them |
| 03:55:26 | trina_limao | or latin1 iso 8859-1 or utf-8? |
| 03:56:49 | Soul-Slayer | UTF-8 |
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| 03:58:37 | daniel1234 | Hi, How do I get Wiki write permission |
| 03:58:53 | saratoga | daniel1234: hold on i'll give it to you |
| 03:59:03 | daniel1234 | Hi, How do I get Wiki write permission |
| 03:59:23 | trina_limao | Soul-Slayer didnt work :( |
| 03:59:31 | daniel1234 | ok thanks |
| 03:59:40 | trina_limao | utf8 |
| 03:59:45 | saratoga | have you registered an account yet? |
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| 04:00:19 | trina_limao | antbody help? |
| 04:00:42 | daniel1234 | yes My user name is DanielDalton |
| 04:01:10 | saratoga | ok added |
| 04:01:34 | trina_limao | saratoga did you help me' |
| 04:01:35 | trina_limao | ? |
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| 04:02:48 | daniel1234 | so can i now edit stuff? |
| 04:02:56 | saratoga | yes |
| 04:03:03 | saratoga | trina_limao: help you with what |
| 04:03:25 | trina_limao | i dont know witch codepage use |
| 04:03:40 | daniel1234 | ok thanks |
| 04:03:44 | Tr1ckY^Gone | how do you sleep when there is +35*C ? |
| 04:03:45 | trina_limao | because acentuated caracters like ç â á didnt word |
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| 04:03:49 | trina_limao | work |
| 04:04:00 | Soul-Slayer | Do you have to use UTF-8 compatible WPS's? I've never run into that problem |
| 04:04:52 | scorche | trina_limao: which font are you using? |
| 04:05:02 | scorche | Soul-Slayer: no..it just dpeends on the font |
| 04:05:30 | trina_limao | default font |
| 04:05:55 | scorche | i thought you said you switched to a unicode font |
| 04:06:18 | Soul-Slayer | I think you found your problem then... |
| 04:06:30 | Soul-Slayer | Download the font package and use a UTF-8 font |
| 04:06:41 | scorche | unicode |
| 04:06:45 | scorche | =) |
| 04:06:55 | trina_limao | i have donnwloaded yet |
| 04:06:59 | trina_limao | i will try another |
| 04:07:01 | trina_limao | whait |
| 04:07:09 | Soul-Slayer | There is only one font package |
| 04:08:27 | trina_limao | i know |
| 04:09:02 | scorche | have some more patience instead of asking multiple times as well please... |
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| 04:10:04 | trina_limao | lol |
| 04:10:06 | trina_limao | sorry |
| 04:10:46 | Soul-Slayer | Have you downloaded and put on the font package? |
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| 04:11:39 | trina_limao | yes |
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| 04:11:55 | Tambu | Trying to enable cue support in the 070714 build but every time I say "yes" it say Please reboot to enable. So I do Play/Menu reboot and reload rockbox. But when I go check the setting it still say "no" Is there a different reboot it's refering to? |
| 04:12:17 | trina_limao | but now i think that i must combine the right font with the right charset |
| 04:13:01 | Soap | Tambu, Menu+Select (the middle button) is _reset_, not _reboot_ |
| 04:13:35 | Soap | oops, Tambu, I'm assuming you are using an iPod, are you? |
| 04:13:44 | Tambu | Soap: er sorry I was doing menu/select not sure why I said play. So what should I do? Ipod Video 5.5g |
| 04:13:59 | Soap | long press on play to shutdown, then select to boot. |
| 04:14:31 | Soap | menu+select is a hard reset. You wouldn't power-cycle your windows box and expect it to remember what documents you had open, would you? |
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| 04:14:49 | Tambu | Soap: :) true enough |
| 04:14:54 | Soap | (that came out snide, I didn't mean to be snide) |
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| 04:15:39 | Tambu | Soap: hrm.. it still didn't save :( CueSupport: Yes hold play till it says shutting down.. then pressed SELECT and booted it back up. correct? |
| 04:16:23 | Soap | aye |
| 04:16:58 | Tambu | Soap hrm trying it again. |
| 04:17:37 | Tambu | Soap: still not saving it.. hrm |
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| 04:20:39 | Soul-Slayer | Why is there such a ridiculous quantity of iPod 5g WPSs? |
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| 04:20:53 | Soul-Slayer | I opened it expecting a moderate list... It's huge o.0 |
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| 04:22:07 | Tambu | Anyone mind loking in their config.cfg file to find out what the entry is for Cue Support to be enabled? |
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| 04:23:09 | Soap | hmm indeed |
| 04:23:13 | Soap | Soul-Slayer, market share |
| 04:26:14 | Soul-Slayer | This is ridiculous, I have an H10 and a Gigabeat... I've been using my Gigabeat mostly, turned on my H10 and the screen size is appalling |
| 04:26:28 | Soul-Slayer | Tambu: |
| 04:26:28 | Soul-Slayer | cuesheet support: on |
| 04:26:35 | Tambu | thx man :) |
| 04:30:26 | Soul-Slayer | 240x320 VS 128x128... I used to thing my H10 had a pretty nice screen o.0 |
| 04:31:00 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: hey, thanks for fixing the radio debug screen, just as i went to bed i thought i probably broke it again :p |
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| 04:37:33 | JdGordon | dan_a: you round? |
| 04:39:06 | Tambu | Soul-Slayer: : do you use cue support? I got my cue support enabled by putting it in the config manuall and i think it's working as my .cue files are no longer show up in directories with mp3 files. but when I play the mp3 I don't see anything to indicate cue is working ie fwd just beeps at me. |
| 04:41:23 | Soul-Slayer | I don't, no, but have you read the documentation for it carefully? |
| 04:41:50 | Tambu | well the wiki anyway. and the forums but they were mostly about adding cue support. |
| 04:42:27 | Tambu | from what I can tell I should be able to press fwd/prev to change through the cuesheet and it said something about showing tick marks on the progress bar.. (my theme might be blocking that though) |
| 04:42:32 | Nico_P | Tambu: have you restarted your player ? |
| 04:43:04 | Tambu | Nico_P: a couple times. i am pretty sure cue support is working as my .cue files aren't showing up in directories where they were before. |
| 04:43:15 | Soul-Slayer | They are named the same as your MP3's yes? |
| 04:43:22 | Soul-Slayer | eg sample.mp3 and sample.cue |
| 04:43:47 | Tambu | Here is a though when you put the MP3 name in the cuesheet do you have to explictly list the path? ie mine is /AudioBooks/AudioBook.mp3 |
| 04:44:18 | Tambu | Soul-Slayer hrm.. I had it that way before but I think I changed it since it had spaces in it (this was before I figured out the cue enable) wasn't working. Lemme try that again. |
| 04:45:47 | Nico_P | Tambu: what's important is that the cue and mp3 files have the same name. the filename listed in the cuesheet isn't evenr ead |
| 04:45:49 | Soul-Slayer | And I don't think path has to be specified no |
| 04:46:03 | Tambu | Nico_P ok great thats my problem then... fixing it. |
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| 04:49:28 | Tambu | muhahaha thanks Soul-slayer thanks Nico_P that did the trick :) |
| 04:49:39 | Soul-Slayer | Enjoy :) |
| 04:49:57 | Tambu | I got so sick of the apple os not handling my audio books properly. I stumbled across rockbox.. and so far I'm loving it. |
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| 04:52:45 | Soul-Slayer | The appleOS is like the only part of the iPod apple had a hand in, and even that's got atleast two replacements... How they're winning the market is beyond me, lol |
| 04:53:29 | kkurbju1 | jhMikeS, are you around? |
| 04:53:50 | Soap | Soul-Slayer, it is one thing to love Rockbox over Apple, another to spread FUD |
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| 04:54:15 | Tambu | don't know.. my only concern left is I wish rockbox would interface with my alpine car stereo like the apple os did.. but thats probably some proprietary bs.. perhaps I can get an audio in cable for it. |
| 04:55:11 | Soap | Tambu, the interface is known and documented. Someone who cares enough (you?) needs to do it. |
| 04:56:07 | safetydan | Soap, I didn't think there was documentation for the accessory protocol? |
| 04:56:13 | Tambu | Soap hrm.. I'm not much of developer.. but perhaps :) When yous ay known and documented you don't have any of the info do you? |
| 04:57:52 | scorche | safetydan: there is a bit about it in the ipl wiki, but that is about it |
| 04:58:21 | Soap | others more wise than I have said it's enough (the protocol documentation) |
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| 05:00:44 | saratoga | safetydan: the protocol is well documented (its just a serial port so anyone with a PC can record what it sends and figure it out with a little efffort) |
| 05:00:55 | saratoga | its just that we don't have a working serial port on any rockbox devices |
| 05:01:01 | saratoga | at least that i know of |
| 05:01:16 | safetydan | Ah, so is there information on programming the controller for the serial port on the iPod? |
| 05:01:23 | safetydan | Maybe that's what I'm thinking is missing. |
| 05:02:02 | scorche | safetydan: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Apple_Accessory_Protocol |
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| 05:03:23 | BHSPitMonkey | are there any docs for porting information? |
| 05:03:33 | safetydan | scorche, is there a datasheet of the serial controller chip though? |
| 05:03:39 | BHSPitMonkey | or do people do that fairly unassisted... |
| 05:04:05 | scorche | safetydan: i am not sure, but i think ipl might have serial working |
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| 05:04:35 | scorche | well, at least on the 3g http://www.ipodlinux.org/Serial_Port |
| 05:04:50 | safetydan | Hrm, so we have the documentation. I'm kind of surprised no one's even attempted it yet. |
| 05:05:45 | kkurbjun | jhmikeS, I think I found a bug in the gigabeat bootloader that may save some extra power, but I have no idea how much savings to expect, I was just wondering if you still had a setup for measuring power. |
| 05:08:17 | kkurbjun | there's an option to disable the clock to the sdram when it's not being accessed and it looks like toshiba set the wrong bit, they set a reserved bit next to it, and it's recommended to set it so the clock to the memory stops when it's not being accessed. I have it turned on in my player and it seems to work fine. |
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| 05:10:43 | Soul-Slayer | Doesn't sound like it would save hours and hours, but every little helps I suppose, if you think it's actually saving |
| 05:12:37 | kkurbjun | I havn't used it enough to know how much it saves, I am not going to commit it right now though because it requires a new bootloader and build of rockbox at the moment |
| 05:12:46 | kkurbjun | or if it seems to save |
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| 05:23:02 | Soul-Slayer | How would Toshiba manage to set the wrong thing? There must be a reason |
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| 05:31:50 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: Here kinda. I can't image that would account for the extra 40mA though. |
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| 05:37:54 | saratoga | has anyone looked at the IPL serial driver? |
| 05:38:02 | saratoga | i don't even know where to look in their source |
| 05:38:25 | JdGordon | hey jhMikeS, were you one of the guys that got the as3415 datasheet? |
| 05:38:34 | jhMikeS | si |
| 05:39:23 | JdGordon | does it mention a wakeup alarm at all? |
| 05:39:35 | JdGordon | .. the config.h says thats the rtc for the sansa |
| 05:40:56 | jhMikeS | I think so |
| 05:42:27 | JdGordon | any chance you might be able to get it going if you have some time? (or pass the DS so i can try?) |
| 05:42:58 | jhMikeS | I don't think I can pass the datasheet around |
| 05:43:05 | JdGordon | didnt tihnk so.. |
| 05:43:16 | JdGordon | if you get a achance I would be very gratefull |
| 05:43:36 | jhMikeS | I'm trying to see if that can be added...gimme a sec |
| 05:45:55 | chrisjs169 | i didn't see a bug report in the tracker, but could someone confirm that the sansa returns a divide by zero error by going to settings -> general settings -> system -> battery -> battery capacity? |
| 05:46:48 | jhMikeS | hmmm...I'm seeing nothing about a wakeup alarm |
| 05:47:28 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: sure does |
| 05:47:47 | chrisjs169 | jhMikeS: so it's a bug? |
| 05:47:57 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: oh well :( thanks anyway |
| 05:48:03 | jhMikeS | of course it is |
| 05:48:12 | chrisjs169 | lol |
| 05:48:21 | chrisjs169 | should i submit it to the tracker then? |
| 05:48:39 | * | chrisjs169 hasn't submitted bugs to the tracker before... |
| 05:48:41 | * | JdGordon will fix that after lunch |
| 05:49:29 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: Are you a divide-by-zero magnet? you found the first ones after I added the trap iirc. |
| 05:50:24 | chrisjs169 | jhMikeS: lol - this one was actually reported to me by another user |
| 05:50:50 | JdGordon | bugger... the bug is somewhere in option_screen |
| 05:51:00 | jhMikeS | perdon, divide-by-zero conduit :) |
| 05:51:13 | JdGordon | #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_INC 0 |
| 05:51:16 | JdGordon | right there.... |
| 05:51:18 | JdGordon | WTF? |
| 05:51:34 | JdGordon | why do we even bother with the setting? |
| 05:52:12 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: because...well...um...take it out? |
| 05:52:24 | JdGordon | I tihnk thats best |
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| 05:54:49 | kkurbjun | jhmikes, rockbox consumes 40 more ma than the of? |
| 05:56:15 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: fixed, did you open a report? |
| 05:56:23 | saratoga | we don't use frequency scaling, so that probably has something to do with it |
| 05:56:43 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon: nope, didn't have a chance to since the problem was found so fast :P |
| 05:56:46 | saratoga | the OF can probably decode mp3 at 40MHz or so, verses rockbox at 300MHz |
| 05:56:58 | kkurbjun | saratoga, does the of use frequency scaling? |
| 05:57:02 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: ok cool |
| 05:57:23 | saratoga | kkurbjun: I can't imagine they'd make an mp3 that had the clock frequency locked at 300MHz |
| 05:57:43 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: until pcm runs for the first time. it drops from 115 to 72 or so after stopping. |
| 05:58:26 | kkurbjun | huh, thats interesting |
| 05:58:47 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: but the 115 also shows up just before the HD shuts off |
| 05:59:02 | kkurbjun | it wouldn't supprise me if they ran at a locked frequency |
| 05:59:33 | kkurbjun | every time the hd shuts off? |
| 05:59:42 | jhMikeS | I think somethings not being shut off that gets shut off after calling audio_stop |
| 05:59:45 | jhMikeS | yes |
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| 06:00:00 | jhMikeS | Just for a second. |
| 06:00:31 | jhMikeS | It drops from the running mA to 115 back to the stopped value |
| 06:01:03 | saratoga | how much of a spec sheet do we have for the Gigabeat's CPU? |
| 06:01:04 | jhMikeS | except on a cold boot it just stays at the 115 |
| 06:01:29 | kkurbjun | saratoga, a pretty good one, its a SOC the cpu is an arm 920t |
| 06:02:04 | * | jhMikeS wishes he could get the 500+ clock speeds but it's only rated at 300 :( |
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| 06:02:30 | kkurbjun | did they just release different speed grades? |
| 06:02:46 | kkurbjun | if so there's a good chance they'll run much higher |
| 06:02:51 | jhMikeS | there are I think -20, -30, -50 or something |
| 06:03:02 | jhMikeS | the F is -30 |
| 06:03:18 | kkurbjun | alot of manufacturers just downbin especially once the process is stable |
| 06:03:56 | saratoga | the spec sheet doesn't suggest what could be on? |
| 06:04:05 | jhMikeS | I was thinking of trying 400 and doing a check |
| 06:04:34 | jhMikeS | saratoga: I'm not sure it's about the CPU at all...perhaps a peripheral like something in the ATA controller. |
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| 06:04:48 | kkurbjun | saratoga, there's not much of an indication how much each part consumes |
| 06:05:12 | jhMikeS | It has a mA chart in the DS |
| 06:05:23 | saratoga | so the sheets don't cover the perhiperals ? |
| 06:05:33 | kkurbjun | yes, I saw that, but it doesn't cover everything |
| 06:05:51 | jhMikeS | why would the core datasheet cover a cypress ATA chip or the like? |
| 06:05:51 | kkurbjun | for example this sdram bit, I guess that's more independent of the cpu though I suppose |
| 06:06:25 | saratoga | jhMikeS: the ata isn't on the SOC? |
| 06:08:23 | kkurbjun | jhmikes, I'm trying to find the 4k sram on the gigabeats - it's supposed to be at 0x40000000 and that's what I see in my disassemblies of the of bootloader, but when I try and write/read from that address range all I get is 0's - do you know of any other ways to remap addresses than the mmu on the gigabeat |
| 06:09:23 | jhMikeS | actually it's there iirc, but the USB / ATA bridge is separate |
| 06:10:00 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: I've never looked at using the mmu |
| 06:11:11 | kkurbjun | well, I'm not really concerned about the mmu, I'm actually using physical addresses, but it's not where I'm looking so I was wondering if there may have been a different way that it was remapped that I'm missing |
| 06:12:08 | chrisjs169 | I'm trying to patch apps/recorder/recording.c and make is complaining about AUDIO_SRC_LINEIN - was that renamed to AUDIO_SRC_MIC? |
| 06:12:57 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: no...linein is an external source and mic is just an internal microphone |
| 06:14:45 | kkurbjun | jhmikes, I wonder if that spike when the ata is being turned off may be related to the circuit that's used for disabling the usb/ata bridge.. do you know if that happens in the of also? |
| 06:14:49 | kkurbjun | the spike that is |
| 06:15:09 | jhMikeS | it looks to me like boot internal SRAM starts 4KB _before_ 0x40000000 |
| 06:15:14 | chrisjs169 | jhMikeS: that's kind of what I thought, but it's sort of confusing me, as linein is only in recording.c three times (one's in a comment) in the original file, but even so, it compiles fine. Add the patch (recording enhancements) and make errors out |
| 06:15:33 | jhMikeS | kkurbjun: no idea about OF...I've never even seen it |
| 06:16:11 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: perhaps go to the REP forum thread and ask mmmm about it |
| 06:16:51 | kkurbjun | jhmikes, that might be it, there's definately something there and I can write to it |
| 06:17:00 | chrisjs169 | ok (actually, noticed linein's listed 8 times - dunno where i got the number three from) |
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| 06:20:12 | chrisjs169 | jhMikeS: meh, i changed it to something similar in the original file and it worked |
| 06:22:04 | saratoga | the power consumption section really doesn't say all that much |
| 06:22:12 | saratoga | the only substantial draw they mention is the camera controller |
| 06:24:31 | jhMikeS | I'm thinking theres a shutoff being skipped or something but I'm totally making wild guesses but the 115 coming up at cold boost and just before disk shutoff rings as more than coincidental and worth looking into further. |
| 06:25:32 | saratoga | has teh voltage scaling issue been looked into in any detial? |
| 06:26:10 | jhMikeS | not to my knowledge |
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| 06:26:39 | saratoga | seems like that would be the biggest savings |
| 06:26:58 | saratoga | at least on the PP chips at the same process node, you get 1ma per 4MHz |
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| 06:28:10 | saratoga | though i guess thats for 2 cores |
| 06:30:20 | kkurbjun | voltage scaling? is there a programmable voltage circuit? |
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| 06:34:43 | saratoga | kkurbjun: I was just looking for one and I don't think so |
| 06:35:14 | saratoga | at least i couldn't find anything in the manual, its possible they have an external chip handling it though |
| 06:35:30 | kkurbjun | I'm not seeing it in the traces I have |
| 06:35:32 | saratoga | it would make sense, since you could save a lot of power cutting the voltage, though maybe they just don't really care |
| 06:36:46 | kkurbjun | the battery life as it stands is pretty good, but having current spikes is a bit concerning, especially after certain events |
| 06:37:09 | chrisjs169 | not really a big deal, but where'd talk_unit suddenly go? in r13136 (around april..) it was there, and I checked every revision that modified apps/settings.c and didn't see any changes regarding it |
| 06:37:41 | chrisjs169 | as of r13510 it's there... |
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| 06:38:19 | chrisjs169 | oh, my mistake - didn't check the last revision - now i see it's removed :P |
| 06:39:51 | saratoga | what was the idea putting the gigabeat S stuff in a forked branch? |
| 06:39:57 | saratoga | won't that just make integerating it harder? |
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| 06:42:38 | Davide-NYC | what is the make command for building the manual again? |
| 06:42:48 | Davide-NYC | (pdf) |
| 06:43:48 | saratoga | i assumed you made it from the configure script like building a sim |
| 06:44:23 | Davide-NYC | generated the autoconf.h and Makefile |
| 06:44:25 | Davide-NYC | yes |
| 06:44:34 | scorche | Davide-NYC: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto |
| 06:45:00 | Davide-NYC | I know, but I have no web access (port 80) at the moment (long story) |
| 06:45:19 | scorche | dcc open? |
| 06:45:39 | Davide-NYC | Huh? |
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| 06:46:09 | scorche | prepare for spam in a /query =) |
| 06:46:30 | Davide-NYC | scorche: I'm totally lost |
| 06:47:51 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: talk_unit moved to gui/option_select.c didnt it? |
| 06:48:19 | Davide-NYC | urg, file utf8x.def not found |
| 06:48:48 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon: it's possible, but it was removed from apps/settings.c, and since I've spent over an hour getting that patch to work I just commented those lines out :P |
| 06:49:13 | JdGordon | :) i did a big settings.c cleanup mid last week |
| 06:55:22 | Davide-NYC | Question: is there a way to build the manual for an iriver h120 *with* the RTC mod? (including all RTC functions/plugins etc? |
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| 07:01:24 | Davide-NYC | night all |
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| 07:13:50 | chrisjs169 | yeah, I noticed :P |
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| 07:37:19 | JdGordon | having an identity crisis scorche? |
| 07:38:11 | scorche | not quite...it is a nick i completely forgot i registered and i realized i missed |
| 07:38:19 | kkurbjun | jdgordon, do you have a pointer I can look at for using the new menu api in plugins? |
| 07:39:08 | JdGordon | kkurbjun: a few of the plugins use it... |
| 07:39:17 | JdGordon | thats about your est bet at docs.. |
| 07:39:23 | * | JdGordon should type something proper up[ |
| 07:39:27 | kkurbjun | hmm |
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| 07:39:53 | kkurbjun | do you know a plugin that uses it properly - a refrence implementation so to speak? |
| 07:40:46 | JdGordon | ill find one for you |
| 07:41:32 | kkurbjun | thanks, I'm interested in using it for a test plugin, and I'd like to convert rockboy and doom to use the new menu interface eventually |
| 07:42:10 | JdGordon | lib/playback_control.c uses it in the same way the core uses it |
| 07:42:20 | JdGordon | I tihnk text_editor uses it the way most plugins would |
| 07:42:40 | JdGordon | with a list of strings and the return value is switch()'ed on |
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| 07:43:10 | kkurbjun | ok, I'll look at that and see what I can learn |
| 07:45:13 | JdGordon | yeah, bassically just search for rb->do_menu |
| 07:45:30 | JdGordon | text_editor.c:414 shows how most plugins would use it |
| 07:47:15 | kkurbjun | is text_editor using the old and new interface? |
| 07:47:45 | JdGordon | only the new one I hope |
| 07:47:59 | kkurbjun | what about ln 488? |
| 07:48:01 | JdGordon | Im writing up a wiki page for the api, then gonna clean up text_editor |
| 07:48:13 | JdGordon | ha, yes, it uses both |
| 07:48:29 | kkurbjun | ahh, ok |
| 07:49:03 | kkurbjun | in MENUITEM_STRINGLIST what is the 3rd paramter? |
| 07:49:25 | kkurbjun | and when doing a switch should there be a default case? |
| 07:49:43 | JdGordon | menu.h.... its the callback for the menu |
| 07:49:52 | JdGordon | and not really needed, |
| 07:50:58 | kkurbjun | ok, great, menu.h helps alot |
| 07:53:21 | kkurbjun | jdgordon, should removing the old menu api calls from rockboy end up reducing the plugin codesize? |
| 07:53:53 | kkurbjun | or any plugin for that matter |
| 07:54:52 | JdGordon | possibly, it will once we can remove the api wrapper from the plugin lib |
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| 07:55:16 | JdGordon | rockboy is getting close to the max plugin size is it? |
| 07:55:33 | kkurbjun | no, it's pretty small, I was interested for the gigabeat |
| 07:55:52 | kkurbjun | the more space available in the plugin buffer, the more games can fit while music is playing |
| 07:56:07 | kkurbjun | doom is definately right on the edge though |
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| 08:27:29 | JdGordon | anyone know the code for twiki to show the c highlighting? |
| 08:28:23 | scorche | JdGordon: that is a plugin...do we even have it installed? |
| 08:29:06 | JdGordon | i tihnk we do |
| 08:29:13 | JdGordon | doesnt matter.. verbatim is good enough |
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| 08:36:14 | webguest46 | Where exactly am i suppose to extract itdb2tc, i tried extracting it to Q:\iPod_Control\iTunes but when I try to run it, it just shows command prompt for a split second then closes and does nothing. |
| 08:37:33 | scorche | you are supposed to run it fromthe command line, but it isnt up to date anywat, so it is a futile attempt at the moment (although it could have been updated and i missed the memo...) |
| 08:38:22 | webguest46 | Where exactly am i suppose to extract itdb2tc, i tried extracting it to Q:\iPod_Control\iTunes but when I try to run it, it just shows command prompt for a split second then closes and does nothing. |
| 08:38:35 | scorche | you just said that... |
| 08:39:32 | webguest46 | hmm.. Well in that case does that mean theres no way to convert ipod database to rockbox at the moment? |
| 08:40:00 | scorche | just initialise it on the device itself |
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| 08:55:39 | * | homielowe wishes toffe82 would get better so he can ask him a question |
| 08:56:23 | markun | homielowe: is it something only he can answer? |
| 08:57:08 | homielowe | markun: I am bidding on a gigabeat S on ebay that has a headphone jack with one contact broken or something of that nature |
| 08:58:07 | JdGordon | toffe was on earilier today |
| 08:59:26 | homielowe | JdGordon: I was currently occupied in my grocery stores freezer working. |
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| 09:25:52 | SiebaZ | morn guys |
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| 09:26:17 | SiebaZ | just wanted to know if there is an patch for battery life of ipod nano yet? |
| 09:26:44 | scorche | i assume you mean better battery life? |
| 09:27:09 | SiebaZ | yepp |
| 09:27:14 | scorche | if there was, we would commit it... |
| 09:27:26 | SiebaZ | cause 8h r not that much -.- |
| 09:27:58 | SiebaZ | but i heard that it was diff to get they key in how to get better batterylife |
| 09:28:24 | SiebaZ | but anyway rockbox really rox hehe |
| 09:28:25 | scorche | please speak proper english...it is hard to understand you |
| 09:28:39 | SiebaZ | yeah sry man im german -.- |
| 09:29:11 | scorche | bering german doesnt make you say "sry" instead of "sorry," |
| 09:29:30 | SiebaZ | oky im a lazy german ;) |
| 09:30:20 | scorche | well, we require that you speak proper engligh so it is easy to understand you and for the logs. we cant help you if we cant understand you =) |
| 09:30:32 | MonkeyTamer | haha, at least you admit it then, there's no excuse on IRC; you save microseconds not typing the entire word |
| 09:30:55 | SiebaZ | ^^ |
| 09:31:03 | SiebaZ | kk understand you |
| 09:31:50 | SiebaZ | i just wanted to knwo if there is a patch for longer batterylife of the ipod nano |
| 09:31:52 | SiebaZ | thats all |
| 09:32:02 | scorche | <scorche> if there was, we would commit it... |
| 09:32:03 | scorche | =) |
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| 09:32:22 | SiebaZ | yeah and with that my question is answerd =) |
| 09:32:31 | SiebaZ | ;) |
| 09:32:58 | MonkeyTamer | battery life on the ipod is one of the more ubiquitous questions that seem to arise |
| 09:33:00 | JdGordon | oh joy... build server hasnt started again with my newest commit |
| 09:33:55 | SiebaZ | yeah -.- |
| 09:34:48 | SiebaZ | so thanls for the fast answers .... Im out ;) |
| 09:34:57 | SiebaZ | thanks |
| 09:35:07 | MonkeyTamer | cya |
| 09:35:14 | MonkeyTamer | er, see you |
| 09:35:20 | SiebaZ | :P |
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| 09:47:33 | JdGordon | anyone know if there is a way to draw a semi circle in rockbox core? |
| 09:48:26 | safetydan | JdGordon, maybe rockpaint? |
| 09:48:41 | safetydan | oh, right, in the core. |
| 09:48:55 | JdGordon | im thinking about pretting up the settings screens |
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| 09:49:29 | safetydan | JdGordon, well then you'll have to add a few drawing functions I'd say. |
| 09:49:47 | JdGordon | :( dont really want to... |
| 09:50:10 | Falco98 | my GF just put rockbox onto her ipod 4g greyscale... |
| 09:50:20 | Falco98 | and is majorly confused about some things |
| 09:50:35 | Falco98 | and because i don't own an ipod, i'm not used to the seemingly-random things they tend to do |
| 09:50:42 | safetydan | JdGordon, you'd just have to cut and paste from rockpaint :) |
| 09:50:52 | MonkeyTamer | Falco98: shoot |
| 09:50:54 | markun | Falco98: but you do have a rockbox player? |
| 09:51:02 | Falco98 | yep |
| 09:51:10 | Falco98 | an iriver h140 |
| 09:51:25 | scorche | what are these "seemingly random things"? |
| 09:51:36 | Falco98 | well |
| 09:52:16 | Falco98 | really certain things pertaining to it having been largely used as a standard ipod thus far,... like, it has a massive collection of itunes music, and we're stressing over how exactly to deal with that |
| 09:52:25 | Falco98 | she doesn't really know whether it's charging when it's plugged in |
| 09:52:54 | MonkeyTamer | the battery icon should have an animation |
| 09:53:08 | Falco98 | she reports that there is none |
| 09:53:24 | MonkeyTamer | charging via the wall or USB> |
| 09:53:39 | scorche | one can always go into the debug screen to the battery screen (i forgot the name) and watch it to see if the voltage increases |
| 09:53:48 | MonkeyTamer | that's definitely an idea as well |
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| 09:54:01 | Falco98 | interesting |
| 09:54:06 | Falco98 | there she is =) |
| 09:54:13 | rockinfree | hi :) |
| 09:54:17 | scorche | hello |
| 09:54:34 | Falco98 | scorche can you re-post that last line, above? |
| 09:54:40 | Falco98 | O:-) |
| 09:54:42 | scorche | <scorche> one can always go into the debug screen to the battery screen (i forgot the name) and watch it to see if the voltage increases |
| 09:54:53 | Falco98 | thx |
| 09:54:57 | MonkeyTamer | what other random things: has jdgordon been leaving messages like: "jdgordon was here" ? |
| 09:55:17 | JdGordon | ? |
| 09:55:18 | Falco98 | lol |
| 09:55:44 | MonkeyTamer | jdgordon: just a joke with respect to Falco98's question |
| 09:56:08 | Falco98 | well.. one thing was, she ran the rockbox program that converts the existing itunes DB file to a rockbox file,but it seemed to not really make any difference |
| 09:56:09 | MonkeyTamer | forgot that it would ping you |
| 09:56:15 | * | JdGordon thourouly confused |
| 09:56:38 | MonkeyTamer | no worries ;) |
| 09:57:20 | scorche | make any difference to what? |
| 09:57:22 | MonkeyTamer | what do you mean? |
| 09:57:40 | Falco98 | any difference in the way it seemed to work, i guess |
| 09:58:01 | scorche | please be more specific |
| 09:58:01 | MonkeyTamer | does anything show up upon selecting database? |
| 09:58:22 | Falco98 | she'd already enabled database mode previously though.. |
| 09:58:34 | Falco98 | rockinfree: feel free to pitch in ;-) |
| 09:58:40 | scorche | and did it display any kind of splash saying anything? |
| 09:58:44 | MonkeyTamer | but is there an error? does it not change? |
| 09:58:53 | rockinfree | i'm in the debug battery screen now, and it seems to be increasing |
| 09:59:15 | scorche | then it is charging |
| 09:59:24 | rockinfree | yeah, so that's good |
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| 10:00:10 | MonkeyTamer | please provide a bit more specifics on what is wrong with the database |
| 10:00:28 | scorche | MonkeyTamer: no need to repeat me =P |
| 10:00:32 | Falco98 | let me lay it out again from the start: |
| 10:00:42 | Falco98 | she had DB mode on from the beginning.. |
| 10:00:44 | MonkeyTamer | sorry, I just wanted to reiterate |
| 10:01:02 | Falco98 | then went and ran the db conversion script, and copied those files over |
| 10:01:14 | Falco98 | should it have changed anything? |
| 10:01:17 | scorche | Falco98: was teh DB mode working int he beginning? |
| 10:01:28 | Falco98 | i believe so |
| 10:01:34 | rockinfree | it was as far as i know |
| 10:01:40 | scorche | are you talking about the itunes to tagcache script? |
| 10:01:45 | rockinfree | yeah |
| 10:01:56 | scorche | i *think* that is outdated atm |
| 10:02:00 | Falco98 | sorry for not nailing the name correctly :-P |
| 10:02:06 | MonkeyTamer | What's wrong with the built-in database? |
| 10:02:15 | scorche | Falco98: well we have lots of "the scripts" =P |
| 10:02:16 | MonkeyTamer | wouldn't it be easier to run it within rockbox? |
| 10:02:20 | * | Falco98 has never wanted nor needed to mess with DB or tagcache stuff :-P |
| 10:02:26 | rockinfree | ohh okay |
| 10:02:31 | scorche | MonkeyTamer: people find it faster to run ont he computer |
| 10:02:43 | scorche | but as i said, i dont believe it is in a working state atm |
| 10:03:06 | scorche | Falco98: aye...i disable it in my builds... |
| 10:03:14 | rockinfree | then that would explain it |
| 10:03:41 | Falco98 | though if a user has already enabled DB mode and built a DB from their tags, wouldn't running the itunes-to-rockbox convertor be just redundant? |
| 10:04:16 | scorche | well, updates... |
| 10:04:23 | Falco98 | or is my inexperience with db mode hurting me once again :-P |
| 10:04:33 | scorche | if you hadnt made any changes to the files on there, it would be |
| 10:05:10 | Falco98 | gotcha |
| 10:05:42 | Falco98 | so.. could she still use itunes to transfer music, without fear of it obliterating rockbox? |
| 10:06:02 | scorche | it will never obliterate rockbox unless she chooses to restore |
| 10:06:23 | Falco98 | (and, completely separate question, can an ipod be powered off during charging? the iriver has no issue with that so it doesn't make sense to me that any other players might :-P) |
| 10:06:28 | scorche | she will have to reinstall just the bootloader portion if she updates the apple firmware |
| 10:06:38 | rockinfree | so itunes auto-syncing won't hurt anything? |
| 10:07:19 | scorche | right, although having a sane file structure and not depending on a proprietary piece of software is always nice |
| 10:07:54 | rockinfree | yeah :-P i'm up for ditching itunes, though, if i decide to keep rockbox |
| 10:08:04 | MonkeyTamer | granted, that can take quite a while to do |
| 10:08:22 | rockinfree | true ... |
| 10:08:40 | scorche | well, that depends on how you have it |
| 10:09:04 | MonkeyTamer | It's at least a job where you have to dedicate a chunk of time, depending on how bad it is to begin with, and how significant certain tags are |
| 10:09:04 | scorche | errr...how you have things set up and arranged |
| 10:09:29 | scorche | if you have a backup of all your music in a sane file structure on your computer already, it isnt |
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| 10:09:44 | MonkeyTamer | that is true |
| 10:10:14 | Falco98 | though if a certain user's main computer only has usb 1.1, it magnifies the time needed for re-transfers by quite a bit... |
| 10:10:22 | Falco98 | s/magnifies/multiplies/ |
| 10:10:38 | Falco98 | :-P |
| 10:10:49 | scorche | Falco98: what else is it doing while you are sleeping? =P |
| 10:10:59 | Falco98 | lol |
| 10:11:01 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 10:11:04 | rockinfree | haha |
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| 10:11:13 | ansivirus | mine cleans my house while i sleep |
| 10:11:22 | Falco98 | well the other thing: what (if any) functionality does an ipod dock get, with rockbox? |
| 10:11:23 | * | MonkeyTamer sleeps with his |
| 10:11:29 | Falco98 | i mean like.. the remote for my iriver works fantastically |
| 10:11:38 | scorche | SiebaZ: please disable those scripts for this channel.. |
| 10:11:40 | * | SiebaZ is away (somwhere over the rainbow xD) |
| 10:11:51 | ansivirus | hmm |
| 10:11:54 | MonkeyTamer | you can play music through |
| 10:12:03 | scorche | Falco98: depends on the dock |
| 10:12:06 | Falco98 | but i'm not sure if they've handled that for ipodStuff(tm) yet |
| 10:12:10 | Falco98 | she has a scion |
| 10:12:12 | MonkeyTamer | I'm not sure on all, but I know mine would charge |
| 10:12:19 | Falco98 | and when the ipod dock is connected, it's nearly brilliant |
| 10:12:31 | scorche | oh...as in she hooks it up to her car? |
| 10:12:37 | Falco98 | yeap |
| 10:12:47 | MonkeyTamer | don't all of them at the very least output music? |
| 10:12:52 | scorche | then it should charge and it *might* output the sound |
| 10:12:58 | scorche | it depends on how it is set up |
| 10:13:11 | scorche | (how the manufacturer set it up) |
| 10:13:18 | Falco98 | gotcha |
| 10:13:19 | Falco98 | well |
| 10:13:45 | Falco98 | with the apple firmware, the ipod's screen shows a Scion logo and all control is taken away and given to the car's factory radio |
| 10:14:05 | Falco98 | and the radio display shows track info and stuff, and gives controls |
| 10:14:08 | scorche | ouch...doesnt sound promising, but you never know until you try |
| 10:14:13 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 10:14:34 | Falco98 | i mean.. the logos and shit sound far-fetched, but i figured there might be a chance someone's working on the general control scheme |
| 10:14:35 | rockinfree | yeah, was gonna see what it did tomorrow |
| 10:15:40 | MonkeyTamer | that scion thing sounds like a sky net alpha |
| 10:16:10 | * | Falco98 needs more explanation on that one :-P |
| 10:16:16 | MonkeyTamer | terminator |
| 10:16:32 | Falco98 | ooh whoops, the reference slipped me :-P |
| 10:16:55 | Falco98 | but yeah it's freaky except in a cool way |
| 10:16:56 | MonkeyTamer | hehe, it wasn't the easiest reference |
| 10:17:56 | Falco98 | yeah |
| 10:17:56 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 10:18:04 | MonkeyTamer | I haven't used the iPod 4G for a while, at least it's getting more stable |
| 10:18:09 | Falco98 | um.. oh, so.. can it be powered-off during charging? |
| 10:18:14 | MonkeyTamer | no |
| 10:18:21 | Falco98 | ah, weird |
| 10:18:38 | Falco98 | what happens if it's off and you plug it in? |
| 10:18:40 | MonkeyTamer | it restarts and goes into the disk mode charging screen |
| 10:18:42 | Falco98 | or does it just not charge? |
| 10:19:16 | MonkeyTamer | it definitely will still charge |
| 10:19:44 | rockinfree | yeah |
| 10:19:51 | MonkeyTamer | you just might expect to have to charge it a bit more :D |
| 10:20:11 | rockinfree | heh, yeah i noticed it seemed to use more battery power |
| 10:20:22 | Falco98 | you guys told me it should animate (or at least indicate) when it's charging? |
| 10:20:38 | MonkeyTamer | better that than the previous instabilities related to freezing |
| 10:20:46 | Falco98 | rockinfree reports that it doesn't |
| 10:21:09 | MonkeyTamer | when it's "off" or on? |
| 10:21:37 | MonkeyTamer | are you using the USB or the wall |
| 10:21:59 | rockinfree | well if the charger's plugged in, it's always on ... using the wall |
| 10:22:35 | MonkeyTamer | does it show the disk mode screen? |
| 10:22:54 | MonkeyTamer | as in the general black and white screen with just a battery symbol |
| 10:23:06 | rockinfree | no, it just goes to the main start up screen |
| 10:23:11 | MonkeyTamer | oh ok |
| 10:23:22 | MonkeyTamer | do you have the statusbar enabled? |
| 10:23:32 | Falco98 | i guess i was referring to the battery indicator not showing.. |
| 10:23:53 | rockinfree | i think so |
| 10:24:00 | Falco98 | MonkeyTamer: that's generally WPS dependant right? |
| 10:24:06 | Falco98 | like in boxes and iamp... |
| 10:24:07 | MonkeyTamer | not necessarily |
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| 10:24:12 | MonkeyTamer | that's just a setting |
| 10:24:21 | MonkeyTamer | it's usually in the theme |
| 10:24:49 | Falco98 | well aren't the WPS files actually what determine whether the statusbar is on or not, in a theme? |
| 10:24:50 | MonkeyTamer | you'd know if the statusbar is on if you see a time in the top right |
| 10:24:58 | Falco98 | (at least on the WPS itself) |
| 10:25:04 | rockinfree | yeah, then it's on |
| 10:25:20 | MonkeyTamer | sorry for the semantics, but the theme is the CFG file |
| 10:25:21 | Falco98 | oh, the 4g has a clock? |
| 10:25:27 | rockinfree | yep |
| 10:25:35 | MonkeyTamer | that will state whether the statusbar is on or off |
| 10:25:42 | MonkeyTamer | the WPS is totally separate |
| 10:25:55 | Falco98 | the theme chooses a wps, no? |
| 10:26:04 | MonkeyTamer | yes, it does |
| 10:26:13 | MonkeyTamer | the WPS does not influence the statusbar though |
| 10:26:17 | Falco98 | in the WPS itself, in the first few lines, there are commands to display the statusbar or not |
| 10:26:25 | Falco98 | as far as i remember? |
| 10:26:33 | MonkeyTamer | that would be the .cfg file |
| 10:26:37 | MonkeyTamer | which links to the WPS |
| 10:27:05 | MonkeyTamer | the .cfg file is the theme |
| 10:27:30 | MonkeyTamer | I know it's a bit overly specific, but I don't want to give wrong info |
| 10:27:45 | MonkeyTamer | rockinfree: does the battery indicator show in the WPS? |
| 10:28:06 | rockinfree | yeah it's there |
| 10:28:23 | MonkeyTamer | you can be safe to know it's charging then |
| 10:28:35 | MonkeyTamer | the indicator on the statusbar is a really small icon |
| 10:28:35 | Falco98 | MonkeyTamer: i've made my own variations of WPS files before, i just thought i could remember seeing the specific lines where they set the statusbar on or off... but i can't remember clearly |
| 10:28:51 | rockinfree | okay, good to know :) |
| 10:28:54 | MonkeyTamer | try taking a quick look if you have a chance |
| 10:29:06 | MonkeyTamer | it's referenced in the .cfg |
| 10:29:21 | MonkeyTamer | something like - statusbar: <on or off> |
| 10:29:24 | Falco98 | rockinfree: which theme do you have on atm? |
| 10:29:32 | Falco98 | MonkeyTamer: yeah.. |
| 10:29:39 | * | Falco98 is just confused :-P |
| 10:29:41 | rockinfree | "boxes" |
| 10:30:02 | MonkeyTamer | it's in the .cfg file listed in the 'themes' folder |
| 10:30:03 | Redbreva | Falco98: you mean the %wd tag in .wps - Status Bar Disabled |
| 10:30:06 | Falco98 | does the battery indicator change at all between when you have it plugged-in and not plugged-in? |
| 10:30:17 | Falco98 | Redbreva: that could be it.. |
| 10:30:34 | MonkeyTamer | oh, I may have misunderstood you |
| 10:30:59 | MonkeyTamer | I was referring to the statusbar in the menu |
| 10:31:26 | Falco98 | yeah.. i think we were both right but not meeting in the middle :-P |
| 10:31:46 | * | MonkeyTamer can't remember which theme is boxes |
| 10:32:34 | rockinfree | i can change it to something else if it helps :-P |
| 10:32:55 | Falco98 | rockinfree: did you see my last question, though? O:-) |
| 10:33:33 | rockinfree | oh, no it doesn't change |
| 10:34:13 | Falco98 | MonkeyTamer: is that a consideration? |
| 10:34:33 | MonkeyTamer | no little plug next to the battery in the statusbar? |
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| 10:34:45 | noob1 | hey |
| 10:34:53 | noob1 | this may sound stupid |
| 10:35:08 | noob1 | but I jsut wanted to make sure that rockbox does support flac on the e200 series |
| 10:35:10 | rockinfree | nope, nothing |
| 10:35:20 | noob1 | is that correct? |
| 10:35:32 | noob1 | I tried looking on thewebsite and manual |
| 10:35:37 | MonkeyTamer | that's a bit odd |
| 10:35:38 | noob1 | but I didn't find anything |
| 10:35:50 | MonkeyTamer | I find that the little icon is fairly useless anyways though |
| 10:36:08 | MonkeyTamer | usually the WPS is easier to identify whether it's charging |
| 10:36:23 | Falco98 | noob1: does the little graph on the build status page say anything? |
| 10:36:27 | MonkeyTamer | sorry noob1 |
| 10:36:42 | MonkeyTamer | I believe it supports flac |
| 10:36:50 | MonkeyTamer | let me make sure |
| 10:37:06 | scorche | noob1: yes |
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| 10:37:20 | noob1 | let me check |
| 10:37:27 | scorche | noob1: it does |
| 10:37:29 | MonkeyTamer | it does |
| 10:37:34 | MonkeyTamer | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs |
| 10:37:48 | noob1 | thanks for the info |
| 10:38:03 | scorche | all swcodec devices support the same codecs |
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| 10:38:14 | scorche | (basically) |
| 10:38:20 | MonkeyTamer | except ape :p |
| 10:38:21 | Falco98 | hm, i can specifically remember seeing a graph of what targets had what formats supported or what bugs, but can't find it now |
| 10:38:49 | MonkeyTamer | the link I listed has a chart |
| 10:38:55 | scorche | MonkeyTamer: no..they all do...just not all are realtime at all levels |
| 10:39:20 | Falco98 | MonkeyTamer: when you say "usually the WPS is easier to identify whether it's charging", what exactly do you mean? |
| 10:39:20 | MonkeyTamer | oh, I understand that; I just meant that it's not really feasible for some |
| 10:39:42 | MonkeyTamer | I meant it's easier to see the bitmap on the WPS than the little icon on the statusbar |
| 10:39:53 | Falco98 | but that's what she says isn't changing... |
| 10:40:00 | Falco98 | i think? |
| 10:40:07 | rockinfree | it doesn't change on both places |
| 10:40:27 | scorche | is she running the latest build?...i recall somehting about it not showing that it is charging in the past |
| 10:40:47 | rockinfree | i just installed it today |
| 10:41:02 | scorche | perhaps that bug is still around then |
| 10:41:22 | rockinfree | hm okay |
| 10:41:35 | MonkeyTamer | I don't still have a 4G, so I can't provide any insight, sorry |
| 10:42:31 | rockinfree | well what matters is that it's working |
| 10:43:24 | Falco98 | yup :) |
| 10:43:29 | MonkeyTamer | is it a color or a grayscale by the way? |
| 10:43:34 | Falco98 | gs |
| 10:43:35 | rockinfree | grayscale |
| 10:43:45 | MonkeyTamer | there is a listing on the tracker about that |
| 10:43:54 | MonkeyTamer | but almost a year old |
| 10:44:11 | Falco98 | heh |
| 10:44:23 | Falco98 | is there anything known about random memory-call errors? |
| 10:44:38 | Falco98 | rockinfree: have you had any more of those, btw? |
| 10:44:48 | rockinfree | nope, just the 2 times so far |
| 10:44:59 | MonkeyTamer | does it freeze? |
| 10:45:26 | rockinfree | yeah, have to reboot to fix it |
| 10:45:29 | noob1 | man I wish there were more wps for the sansa |
| 10:45:38 | scorche | then make more |
| 10:45:41 | MonkeyTamer | noob1: go make one |
| 10:45:43 | MonkeyTamer | darn it |
| 10:45:49 | MonkeyTamer | always beat me to the answer |
| 10:45:56 | MonkeyTamer | :p |
| 10:45:58 | Falco98 | lol |
| 10:46:00 | scorche | i have my slow days |
| 10:46:14 | Falco98 | is the sansa a unique screen size, or something? |
| 10:46:22 | MonkeyTamer | not really |
| 10:46:32 | MonkeyTamer | it's just the opposite of an ipod 4g |
| 10:46:53 | Falco98 | what, rotated 90 degrees? |
| 10:46:56 | MonkeyTamer | yes |
| 10:47:00 | noob1 | lol |
| 10:47:10 | noob1 | if only I was that good |
| 10:47:18 | MonkeyTamer | you don't have to be good |
| 10:47:26 | noob1 | I wonder how the rockampSansa Blue |
| 10:47:31 | noob1 | looks like |
| 10:47:41 | MonkeyTamer | you can always try porting one as well |
| 10:47:48 | noob1 | I was thinking |
| 10:48:02 | noob1 | I wish that there was skin that looked like the sana one |
| 10:48:09 | scorche | then make one... |
| 10:48:14 | Falco98 | making a skin isn't too hard.. |
| 10:48:19 | noob1 | ok |
| 10:48:24 | Falco98 | you just need to find an image file |
| 10:48:25 | scorche | and they are themes, not skins =P |
| 10:48:30 | noob1 | ok |
| 10:48:32 | noob1 | themes |
| 10:48:33 | noob1 | fines |
| 10:48:33 | Falco98 | well |
| 10:48:38 | Falco98 | WPS, not theme |
| 10:48:43 | noob1 | wps |
| 10:48:45 | Falco98 | theme is just a collection of fonts and WPS |
| 10:48:47 | scorche | wps is just the screen |
| 10:49:06 | MonkeyTamer | that's what I was trying to tell you earlier Falco98 |
| 10:49:31 | Falco98 | yeah i know, i was mostly talking about something else though :-P |
| 10:49:37 | noob1 | man I jsut want flac support on the sansa |
| 10:49:45 | noob1 | but keep the pretty pics |
| 10:49:51 | noob1 | of the UI |
| 10:49:52 | MonkeyTamer | Can't make a WPS without making a theme though |
| 10:50:10 | MonkeyTamer | there is flac support |
| 10:50:16 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevConWest2007#Themes will lay out the differences int he terms for you =) |
| 10:50:22 | Falco98 | er |
| 10:50:35 | Falco98 | you can make a WPS without making a theme, in fact |
| 10:50:39 | scorche | noob1: rockbox's look is able to be changed as we said |
| 10:50:53 | MonkeyTamer | then how do you reference the WPS |
| 10:51:02 | Falco98 | choose the WPS manually from the menu |
| 10:51:26 | MonkeyTamer | oh, you're right |
| 10:51:31 | MonkeyTamer | forgot about that setting |
| 10:51:34 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 10:51:36 | Falco98 | like |
| 10:51:45 | MonkeyTamer | "browse .wps files" |
| 10:51:46 | Falco98 | as long as the last theme's font is acceptable |
| 10:51:56 | Falco98 | or maybe you can choose the font manually too? haven't tried that... |
| 10:52:04 | Falco98 | but i made a WPS called "iAmp2" |
| 10:52:06 | scorche | you can |
| 10:52:17 | rockinfree | you can do that too (w/ the font) |
| 10:52:37 | Falco98 | which is just like the one packaged with the official builds, except non-retarded in certain things.. i got rid of the graphical volume and battery sliders, and replaced them with the numeric versions |
| 10:52:49 | noob1 | yea I see |
| 10:53:17 | MonkeyTamer | I still have to upload a theme I created for the Gigabeat |
| 10:53:25 | noob1 | hummm I will rockbox one day support some .h264??? |
| 10:53:27 | MonkeyTamer | I've been too lazy to bother though |
| 10:53:32 | scorche | noob1: not likely |
| 10:53:40 | noob1 | aww |
| 10:53:47 | noob1 | that would of made my day if it did |
| 10:53:48 | scorche | MonkeyTamer: well, the new repository will be up in a couple days |
| 10:54:03 | MonkeyTamer | yeah, I figureed I would wait on that |
| 10:54:07 | Falco98 | what's h264? |
| 10:54:12 | scorche | a video format |
| 10:54:23 | Falco98 | ahh |
| 10:54:26 | * | scorche directs Falco98 to wikipedia |
| 10:54:30 | Falco98 | proprietary or something? |
| 10:54:37 | * | scorche directs Falco98 to wikipedia =) |
| 10:54:42 | Falco98 | touche |
| 10:54:57 | MonkeyTamer | scorche: having fun repeating yourself tonight? |
| 10:55:11 | Falco98 | though that would require at least twice as many keystrokes to obtain all i want to know, at most a skeleton of info ;-) |
| 10:55:13 | * | scorche shrugs |
| 10:55:30 | Falco98 | :-P |
| 10:55:39 | scorche | Falco98: plus, wikipedia will answer any other question you might have about that subject |
| 10:55:42 | MonkeyTamer | wikipedia entry intros are usually pretty good |
| 10:55:51 | Falco98 | yup |
| 10:56:02 | Falco98 | i like wikipedia |
| 10:56:05 | noob1 | how is the fm support on the e200 ?? |
| 10:56:11 | Falco98 | though i tend to avoid it at 5:00 in the morning |
| 10:56:15 | scorche | noob1: try it and see |
| 10:56:27 | * | Falco98 would refer everyone to the XKCD comic about the dangers of wikipedia |
| 10:56:32 | MonkeyTamer | haha, it pulls you in sometimes doesn't it? |
| 10:56:39 | MonkeyTamer | all the blue links |
| 10:56:47 | scorche | Falco98: glad to see i dont have to link you to it =) |
| 10:56:58 | Falco98 | hehe |
| 10:57:10 | Falco98 | suddenly i'm tempted to dig thru and figure out which one it is |
| 10:57:23 | Falco98 | i frequently have to sift back thru and re-find my favorite ones.. |
| 10:57:30 | scorche | they have an archive button |
| 10:57:34 | noob1 | ok |
| 10:57:37 | scorche | but, we are getting offtopic |
| 10:57:41 | noob1 | let me read about the uninstall first |
| 10:58:08 | scorche | noob1: you might want to read the manual as well....it will likely help answer some other questions you may have |
| 10:58:09 | noob1 | I miss my rio karma |
| 10:58:18 | MonkeyTamer | I was just about to say that too... |
| 10:58:20 | noob1 | I'm reading it as we speak |
| 10:58:44 | MonkeyTamer | noob1: you should be given an award, most people do not make such an effort |
| 10:58:44 | JdGordon | anyone have any requesnts for more info on the usb screen? |
| 10:58:52 | * | JdGordon currently updating the code for it |
| 10:59:05 | scorche | JdGordon: debug? |
| 10:59:13 | MonkeyTamer | yes: can it say - "Hello world!" |
| 10:59:20 | JdGordon | scorche: no, real usb screen |
| 10:59:36 | noob1 | lol |
| 10:59:39 | scorche | ah...the usb image? |
| 10:59:52 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 10:59:56 | noob1 | the manual is incomplete tho |
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| 11:00:01 | MonkeyTamer | in what way? |
| 11:01:03 | scorche | JdGordon: i have heard some requests for an activity indicator, number for the power current, and a few others, but dont have any myself... |
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| 11:01:53 | Falco98 | umm |
| 11:01:58 | Falco98 | how about a status indicator? |
| 11:02:21 | Falco98 | i've found that if i hold stop for several seconds before unplugging, the player just turns off when i unplug it instead of starting up |
| 11:02:50 | Falco98 | (though i forget whether that's true in the rockbox USB screen or in the from-poweroff usb mode) |
| 11:03:25 | Falco98 | but if what i'm saying is right, or controllable, then there could be some control for whether the player will start, or just shut back down, when the USB is unplugged? |
| 11:03:36 | Falco98 | and an indicator for this... |
| 11:04:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:04:48 | JdGordon | I dont know if a status indicator is possivle |
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| 11:06:10 | Falco98 | i'd figure the other stuff would be the harder part :-P |
| 11:06:30 | Falco98 | if you want a coding puzzle though, i have a request for something in playlist.c: |
| 11:06:46 | JdGordon | ive got it forcing the statusbar on when in usb which should make it a abit nicer |
| 11:06:48 | JdGordon | and shhot |
| 11:06:54 | * | JdGordon hates playback.c though :p |
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| 11:07:18 | Falco98 | a function that returns a binary (yes or no)... is_successor(nexttrack) |
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| 11:07:38 | JdGordon | ?? |
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| 11:08:02 | Falco98 | if the track following the currently-playing track is actually the alphabetical successor in its directory, it returns a yes, and otherwise, no |
| 11:08:22 | Falco98 | i.e. it would test if the next song on the playlist is actually the next track in an album |
| 11:08:41 | * | JdGordon wonders why you want that |
| 11:08:57 | Llorean | But that doesn't test if it's the next track in the album, at all. |
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| 11:09:34 | Llorean | It's very easy to make a playlist that's in album order, even when the filenames aren't proper, using database or even by hand. |
| 11:09:46 | Falco98 | i'm making an assumption that someone might have their music in a sane folder/naming scheme |
| 11:10:11 | Llorean | What's the feature for? |
| 11:10:17 | Falco98 | but i was just saying that as an example for what i want to test for, not that it would be an absolute test |
| 11:10:51 | davina | mine is album_artist/album/artist_trackname |
| 11:11:01 | Falco98 | i want to write a patch, if just for myself to use, that will allow me to disable crossfade for a given track if the following track is its album-successor |
| 11:11:33 | MonkeyTamer | oh, I finally understand now |
| 11:11:45 | noob1 | where is the uninstall info on the site? |
| 11:11:47 | noob1 | I saw it |
| 11:11:49 | JdGordon | can people please try jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/usb.patch">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/usb.patch on a target with usb? (i have tested h300 already) |
| 11:11:50 | noob1 | and now I can't find it |
| 11:11:57 | MonkeyTamer | sure |
| 11:11:58 | JdGordon | ... just make sure the usb screen doesnt crash it |
| 11:11:59 | Falco98 | but i don't know quite enough to write the function i need to test what i was just describing |
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| 11:12:21 | scorche | noob1: it is in the manual... |
| 11:12:32 | JdGordon | Falco98: why not check the album id3 tag? |
| 11:13:02 | Falco98 | that could be a way to do it too, but once again.. not sure how to do the programming :-P |
| 11:13:18 | Falco98 | but that's probably a safer way |
| 11:13:23 | noob1 | I see |
| 11:13:25 | noob1 | thanks |
| 11:13:26 | JdGordon | I think a muc better way |
| 11:13:29 | JdGordon | much* |
| 11:13:31 | Falco98 | check the album id3 tag and the tracknum |
| 11:13:35 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 11:13:43 | JdGordon | sholdnt even be hard to do |
| 11:13:51 | * | JdGordon not exactly sure where to put that though |
| 11:14:10 | Falco98 | where to put what? |
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| 11:14:24 | JdGordon | that code |
| 11:14:33 | noob1 | dual boot |
| 11:14:35 | noob1 | sounds good to me |
| 11:14:37 | noob1 | thanks for the info |
| 11:14:42 | noob1 | I will try tommorrow |
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| 11:15:01 | Falco98 | somewhere in playlist.c, in a function called something like "is_next_track_on_album()" |
| 11:16:18 | MonkeyTamer | ..compiling |
| 11:16:51 | dan_a | JdGordon: You were after me earlier? |
| 11:17:14 | JdGordon | dan_a: yeah, but dw, jhMikeS sort it out |
| 11:17:33 | dan_a | OK |
| 11:17:34 | JdGordon | I was trying to find out if the sansa had an alarm wakeup |
| 11:17:57 | dan_a | Does it? |
| 11:18:03 | JdGordon | not according to jhMikeS |
| 11:18:41 | MonkeyTamer | JdGordon: I see a statusbar on the gigabeat |
| 11:18:56 | JdGordon | and the nice picture displays? |
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| 11:19:07 | MonkeyTamer | the usb picture? |
| 11:19:08 | darkraven | hi |
| 11:19:11 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 11:19:15 | MonkeyTamer | yeah, it shows |
| 11:19:21 | JdGordon | k thanks |
| 11:19:25 | MonkeyTamer | no problem |
| 11:19:46 | JdGordon | just need to wait for a m5/x5 owner now with its funny remote |
| 11:20:51 | MonkeyTamer | good luck ;) |
| 11:22:46 | MonkeyTamer | Having a forced scrollbar is certainly one up on the iPod's original: "Do Not Disconnect" |
| 11:22:51 | MonkeyTamer | *statusbar |
| 11:24:06 | darkraven | i just tried to compile the sourcecode... after choosing N)ormal it sais "The compiler you must use (arm-elf-gcc: command not found" |
| 11:24:15 | darkraven | does anyone know what to do |
| 11:24:27 | scorche | darkless: well, have you installed the crosscompilers? |
| 11:24:59 | darkraven | oh ^^ hehe no, where can i donwload them? |
| 11:25:20 | scorche | are you using linux native? vmware? colinux? cygwin? |
| 11:26:10 | darkraven | cygwin, wait, i see, there is a an manual , thanks |
| 11:26:21 | JdGordon | scorche: can you try that patch with your rec please? |
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| 11:26:34 | * | JdGordon is slightyl worried that the pic is going to overlap the statusbar |
| 11:26:35 | scorche | JdGordon: it needs soldering =/ |
| 11:26:41 | JdGordon | what you do to it? |
| 11:26:55 | scorche | it is the typical battery connector problem |
| 11:27:00 | JdGordon | ah |
| 11:27:14 | scorche | ...on all 3 of mine...i have used them one by one till they all broke eventually => |
| 11:27:19 | JdGordon | anyone else with a rec? |
| 11:27:24 | * | scorche needs to get a new soldering station |
| 11:27:29 | JdGordon | oh, and someone with a player should test also |
| 11:28:06 | JdGordon | hmm.... seems to be fine in the sim |
| 11:28:58 | JdGordon | player sim is ok also |
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| 11:30:39 | darkraven | is there a function on rockbox to search for a file? |
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| 11:35:30 | stripwax | 'search' in what sense? if you know the filename can you just load it? |
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| 11:35:45 | daurnimator | whyats new in rockbox |
| 11:35:47 | stripwax | you can do file_exists(filename) |
| 11:36:12 | stripwax | daurnimator - new since when? ;-) front page: http://www.rockbox.org/ |
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| 11:36:25 | daurnimator | last 2 weeks or so |
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| 11:36:58 | stripwax | daurnimator - WMA codec probably largest change |
| 11:37:07 | stripwax | ipod 3g clocking changes too |
| 11:37:12 | markun | daurnimator: wma? |
| 11:37:17 | markun | stripwax: oops :) |
| 11:37:35 | stripwax | heh |
| 11:37:36 | markun | daurnimator: this page is usually up-to-date http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 11:38:11 | stripwax | markun - neat page. should be linked on the front page! |
| 11:38:41 | stripwax | maybe even the last two weeks should be listed on the front page, casual users probably more interested in recent 'big changes' than recent svn commits |
| 11:39:46 | JdGordon | there is a link to the last 4 weeks changleog on the front page |
| 11:40:05 | stripwax | yep but not a link to the MajorChanges page |
| 11:40:15 | * | stripwax didn't know that page even existed |
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| 11:44:14 | MonkeyTamer | there is a link on the front page |
| 11:44:24 | MonkeyTamer | under "changelog" |
| 11:44:53 | stripwax | oh, so there is. sorry!! |
| 11:45:05 | MonkeyTamer | ;) |
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| 11:46:42 | stripwax | hi Domonoky |
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| 11:53:13 | Domonoky | :-) |
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| 11:54:43 | stripwax | looks like wx function GetPath doesn't actually do the right thing so I haven't got a working fix for rbutil yet ... :( e.g. for G:\.rockbox\backdrops\mixtape.bmp , GetPath returns "G:\backdrops" which is madness |
| 11:55:30 | Domonoky | strange |
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| 11:57:21 | stripwax | very |
| 11:59:48 | stripwax | also I'm now getting "Failed to display HTML document in UTF-8 encoding" error on starting rbutil. but manual display seems ok... |
| 11:59:56 | Domonoky | stripwax can you try: if(!wxDirExists(wxPathOnly(in_str))) as a check if the dir exists ? |
| 12:00 |
| 12:01:57 | stripwax | I'm using wxFileName and filename.GetPath(). what's "wxPathOnly"? |
| 12:02:24 | Domonoky | a wx Function to strip the filename from a path string.. |
| 12:02:31 | stripwax | same as GetPath? |
| 12:02:47 | Domonoky | like GetPath but for a wxString |
| 12:03:04 | stripwax | ok, should it do the same though? |
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| 12:04:42 | Domonoky | stripwax: http://pastebin.ca/620228 |
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| 12:05:16 | Domonoky | stripwax: you can try if it works for you :-) |
| 12:05:26 | stripwax | found the problem |
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| 12:05:36 | stripwax | wx is getting confused by the double backslash (like I originally suspected!) |
| 12:06:15 | stripwax | "G:\.rockbox\backdrops\Mixtape.bmp" path is "G:\.rockbox\backdrops" but "G:\\.rockbox\backdrops\Mixtape.bmp" path is "G:\backdrops" |
| 12:06:19 | * | stripwax sighs |
| 12:06:35 | Domonoky | if you have a working fix, make a patch or commit it :-) |
| 12:06:50 | Domonoky | strange, normally wx has no problem with the double backslash |
| 12:06:58 | stripwax | Domonoky- well, I don't, that's the problem .. as soon as I do, I will, don't worry |
| 12:07:08 | * | stripwax still doesn't have svn access |
| 12:07:30 | Domonoky | stripwax: put the patch into FS and i will commit it for you then.. |
| 12:07:30 | stripwax | I think your code on pastebin won't do the right thing for just empty directory entries, it will just create the subdir, no? not the actual dir. |
| 12:07:39 | stripwax | I will, when I have one.. ! :-) |
| 12:08:45 | Domonoky | stripwax: it should also create the empty dir.. it think wxGetPathOnly should return the dir, if it only contains a dir.. :-) |
| 12:09:01 | stripwax | Domonoky - wx doesn't know if it's a dir or a filename though right? |
| 12:09:37 | stripwax | e.g. if the entry is Directory only and its name is ".rockbox/backdrops" you want to create ".rockbox/backdrops" but path will return ".rockbox" |
| 12:10:18 | Domonoky | are you sure the wxPathOnly only returns ".rockbox" and not ".rockbox/backdrops" ? |
| 12:10:28 | Domonoky | because it works for me :-) |
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| 12:12:56 | stripwax | Domonoky- hm, but how would wx know that "backdrops" is not the name of a file? |
| 12:13:47 | Domonoky | you are right, i dont know.. :-) |
| 12:13:50 | JdGordon | Llorean: have you got a player? |
| 12:14:23 | Llorean | Do you mean "Archos Jukebox Player" or do you mean "Anything that runs Rockbox"? |
| 12:14:39 | stripwax | woah. you're right. wxPathOnly works but wxFileName::GetPath doesn't. I naively assumed wx would have a single implementation but it looks like it has two, one of which is buggy |
| 12:14:43 | * | stripwax hates wx already |
| 12:15:00 | JdGordon | Llorean: the first |
| 12:15:10 | Llorean | No |
| 12:15:14 | stripwax | but for me, wxPathOnly definitely returns .rockbox not .rockbox\backdrops for the ".rockbox\backdrops" entry |
| 12:15:30 | Domonoky | stripwax: jeah wx is a bit strange.. but Cassandra started it, so i didnt want to rewrite every thing to qt :-) |
| 12:16:43 | Domonoky | stripwax: i you find a working solution.. i am happy :-)) |
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| 12:18:32 | * | JdGordon wants to split up screens.c |
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| 12:23:03 | JdGordon | anyone here have the x5 or m5 with the remote? |
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| 12:24:20 | * | stripwax_ hates his isp too |
| 12:24:51 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - it works! I'll upload a patch now |
| 12:25:23 | Domonoky | stripwax_: nice |
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| 12:26:22 | stripwax_ | so, this fixes 1: rbutil hang when unzipping theme fails, 2: checkZip test, 3: creating subdirs on device |
| 12:26:38 | stripwax_ | want it in the patch tracker or just on pastebin? |
| 12:27:03 | Domonoky | stripwax: as you like.. |
| 12:27:12 | Domonoky | i will test, and then commit it :-) |
| 12:30:18 | stripwax_ | 7439 |
| 12:30:27 | stripwax_ | thansk |
| 12:30:32 | stripwax_ | thanks, even |
| 12:31:29 | JdGordon | wow, wtf? apparently my commit to fix the yellow was skipped from the builds, and isnt showing up in the latest changelog! |
| 12:32:05 | Domonoky | stripwax_: you forgot to attach the patch ? |
| 12:32:16 | stripwax_ | woah, where did it go? |
| 12:32:27 | stripwax_ | I definitely uploaded it but it's not there |
| 12:33:02 | stripwax_ | ok there now |
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| 12:34:43 | stripwax_ | hm, that patch won't apply to latest svn, hadn't seen you'd already committed some changes. |
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| 12:35:15 | stripwax_ | I think the correct thing to do is break rather than return (even if you do delete progress) |
| 12:35:25 | stripwax_ | otherwise you don't clean up in_zip and in_file |
| 12:35:41 | Domonoky | stripwax_: you are right.. i will merge it.. |
| 12:35:57 | stripwax_ | thanks |
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| 12:36:04 | * | JdGordon loves green commits :D |
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| 12:36:11 | JdGordon | ... and apparenly talking to self :p |
| 12:36:37 | JdGordon | stupid red deltas though |
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| 12:42:05 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - hm, trying a "clean install" on empty ipod I get the error "can't open file 'G:\\.rockbox\' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified)". This is despite G:\.rockbox existing. So either I have a screwed wx build or wx really doesn't like double pathseparators |
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| 12:44:30 | Domonoky | stripwax_: i will try |
| 12:44:36 | stripwax_ | thanks |
| 12:45:19 | Kasperle | though i think windows should handle those double separators in its filesystem API (and handle them just fine)? |
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| 12:45:39 | Domonoky | yes, windows shouldnt have any problem with this.. |
| 12:45:57 | stripwax_ | I know it shouldn't. and yet it does |
| 12:46:06 | stripwax_ | I suspect the problem is not windows here.. |
| 12:46:07 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 12:46:12 | Domonoky | damn wx |
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| 12:52:48 | Domonoky | installing rockbox works, but i got an error with the theme install, (also unzip) there is now a !triple! \ .. :-/ |
| 12:52:58 | stripwax_ | wow |
| 12:53:06 | stripwax_ | so the exact opposite of what I'm getting |
| 12:53:22 | stripwax_ | which theme? I used "Mixtape". |
| 12:53:29 | stripwax_ | suspect differences in how the zips were built |
| 12:53:38 | stripwax_ | although can't explain why rockbox install works for you and not me |
| 12:54:11 | Domonoky | now it fails for everything |
| 12:54:16 | stripwax_ | ? |
| 12:55:07 | stripwax_ | ok, rockbox zip file definitely has IsDir entries, and Mixtape theme definitely does not. so that's at least one difference |
| 12:55:59 | Domonoky | but now, unzipping fails everytime for me, there is something wrong with the paths. |
| 12:56:01 | stripwax_ | imho we should only add a path separator onto the end of DestDir if it doesn't already have one. my destdir is already "G:\" so rbutil constructs "G:\\" |
| 12:56:25 | Domonoky | we should never add one.. i think.. |
| 12:57:04 | stripwax_ | there needs to be at least one, either DestDir has one or it doesn't. DestDir can be specified by the user, who might just enter G: |
| 12:57:10 | stripwax_ | ^at least^exactly |
| 12:57:28 | Domonoky | okey, so we should check.. |
| 12:58:40 | stripwax_ | oops, there is a bug in my patch too. IsDir entries should always continue, not just if the dir needed creating. my bad, I'll fix that one. |
| 12:58:51 | stripwax_ | Want me to fix the path separators too or are you already on that? |
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| 13:00:07 | Domonoky | i am debugging it at the moment.. |
| 13:02:48 | Domonoky | the continue fix, fixed everything for me.. |
| 13:03:47 | stripwax_ | patch updated |
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| 13:04:42 | Domonoky | so no need to fix the paths.. atleats for me it works :-) |
| 13:04:51 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - I don't understand how the first install of rockbox worked for you though .. and failed the second time? |
| 13:05:29 | Domonoky | i also dont know, but that was before the continue fix.. |
| 13:06:00 | Domonoky | stripwax_: your real name for the credits please ? :-) |
| 13:06:01 | stripwax_ | it was, but before the continue fix it should have always failed, I think |
| 13:06:14 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - I'm already in Credits |
| 13:06:19 | stripwax_ | and have been for a long time! |
| 13:06:31 | Domonoky | there are extra credits for rbutil :-) |
| 13:08:11 | stripwax_ | confirmed that the updated patch works for me too :) |
| 13:08:23 | Domonoky | nice.. |
| 13:08:39 | stripwax_ | Now I need to find why that UTF-8 error comes up. do you get that? |
| 13:08:53 | Domonoky | no i dont get that error.. |
| 13:08:56 | stripwax_ | curious |
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| 13:10:43 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - hm, are you not receiving my private messages? |
| 13:10:43 | * | Domonoky wont commit it, without a name.. :-) |
| 13:10:50 | * | stripwax_ has given it, twice .. |
| 13:11:01 | Domonoky | sorry, no pm.. |
| 13:11:16 | Domonoky | somehow i dont get you messages.. :-/ |
| 13:11:38 | Domonoky | join #stripwax :-) |
| 13:12:07 | stripwax_ | heh |
| 13:13:08 | stripwax_ | so what do I need to do to get svn access round here? ;-) |
| 13:13:26 | Domonoky | commited.. |
| 13:13:30 | stripwax_ | ta |
| 13:13:39 | Domonoky | stripwax_: post a few patches.. and nag the devs :-) |
| 13:13:51 | stripwax_ | Domonoky - how many is "a few" .. ?? |
| 13:14:33 | Domonoky | stripwax_: there is no number.. anyone can get access, if the main devs thinks it is ok, and that you know the rules.. |
| 13:14:53 | * | stripwax_ waits |
| 13:15:09 | bluebrother | stripwax_: if you want to send PMs you need to be registered (and identified) to freenode |
| 13:15:15 | bluebrother | that's a freenode thingy ... |
| 13:15:18 | stripwax_ | I guess none of my patches have been appreciated? :) |
| 13:15:37 | stripwax_ | bluebrother - hm, ok. I think it used to work, maybe it's because my nick is stripwax_ not stripwax right now |
| 13:15:45 | Domonoky | stripwax_: hehe, no.. its more that the main devs notice it.. :-) |
| 13:15:53 | bluebrother | well, currently you're not identified ;-) |
| 13:15:57 | stripwax_ | main devs: any updated on my sliding puzzle patch? |
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| 13:16:15 | bluebrother | and users can allow PMs from unregistered nicks |
| 13:16:15 | stripwax | how about now? |
| 13:16:34 | bluebrother | nope, you're still not identified |
| 13:16:34 | * | Domonoky could send a recommendation to the commiters list. but i dont know if they will follow my advice :-) |
| 13:16:44 | bluebrother | you need to /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 13:17:16 | stripwax | bluebrother - curious, I thought I had that on auto but evidently not. thanks, will see what's up |
| 13:17:27 | Domonoky | stripwax: should i do this ? :-) |
| 13:17:35 | stripwax | yes please |
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| 13:18:55 | safetydan | Anyone know why the shutdown menu item in the Rockbox menu is #ifdef'd for LCD_CHARCELLS? |
| 13:19:33 | bluebrother | iirc because there is no dedicated power-off button on those targets |
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| 13:20:31 | safetydan | Sometimes it'd be nice to have a shutdown item on the menu on my h120 even with a dedicated off button. |
| 13:20:34 | * | stripwax goes for lunch |
| 13:20:42 | bluebrother | Domonoky, stripwax: Hooper or Hopper? ;-) |
| 13:20:53 | stripwax | Hooper .. why would it be Hopper? |
| 13:21:05 | Domonoky | ups.. |
| 13:21:09 | * | Domonoky is sorry. |
| 13:21:09 | bluebrother | hehe ;-) |
| 13:21:15 | stripwax | On the iriver H1xx tools I was credited as Cooper.. |
| 13:21:25 | safetydan | and lo, someone's already done a patch for it. |
| 13:22:00 | bluebrother | Domonoky: should be an easy fix *g* |
| 13:22:04 | stripwax | ;) |
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| 13:22:34 | * | Domonoky fixed it in svn |
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| 14:33:31 | JdGordon | aliask: hey |
| 14:35:06 | JdGordon | dan_a: still around? |
| 14:35:55 | JdGordon | ok, ill reply in the forum then |
| 14:36:58 | aliask | hola |
| 14:37:26 | JdGordon | uni tomorow :'( |
| 14:37:34 | aliask | what time you start? |
| 14:37:37 | JdGordon | 11 |
| 14:37:41 | aliask | not too bad |
| 14:37:47 | JdGordon | my tt is shite |
| 14:37:48 | JdGordon | u? |
| 14:37:57 | aliask | 10 |
| 14:38:03 | aliask | i'm undecided on my timetable so far |
| 14:38:14 | aliask | wednesday is a killer day for me, but i get tuesdays off |
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| 14:38:36 | JdGordon | snap |
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| 14:38:46 | JdGordon | cept i have 2 hours tuesday in the arvo |
| 14:39:03 | JdGordon | got wed 1pm free? |
| 14:39:18 | aliask | 11am - 12 is the only hour i have free that day |
| 14:39:24 | JdGordon | damn |
| 14:39:28 | aliask | 8am - 5pm otherwise |
| 14:39:33 | * | JdGordon was gonna say DevConMonashPub :p |
| 14:39:40 | aliask | haha |
| 14:41:01 | JdGordon | happy with your results? |
| 14:42:40 | aliask | well, i got a rare grade, if that's worth anything |
| 14:42:55 | aliask | i got a near pass for my mechanical engineering subject |
| 14:42:58 | aliask | which was a big supprise |
| 14:43:15 | JdGordon | NP is close enough |
| 14:43:19 | JdGordon | better than an N |
| 14:43:23 | aliask | yep |
| 14:43:50 | aliask | i must have really bombed the exam, because my marks through the year were pretty solid |
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| 14:56:37 | Kasperle | do they let you have a look at the marked exams? |
| 14:57:50 | JdGordon | yep |
| 14:57:56 | aliask | Oh good. |
| 14:57:58 | Kasperle | a friend of mine found out that they lost half the sheets of one of his exams ... |
| 14:58:17 | Kasperle | so that explained fairly well why they thought he failed it |
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| 15:15:52 | DerPapst | moin from munich :D |
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| 15:17:35 | JdGordon | DerPapst: isnt it like 4pm there? |
| 15:19:05 | JdGordon | or 2pm... |
| 15:19:30 | Domonoky | 15:19 .. |
| 15:19:42 | JdGordon | close enough |
| 15:19:43 | * | Domonoky isnt too far away from munich.. :-) |
| 15:20:06 | DerPapst | 3pm ;) |
| 15:20:13 | * | JdGordon has cities on both timezones next to munich, but not there on the clock |
| 15:21:18 | DerPapst | Starnberg to be exact. |
| 15:21:57 | JdGordon | see know if you said stranberg I would have no idea where that is :p |
| 15:22:03 | JdGordon | now* |
| 15:22:30 | * | Domonoky is in Augsburg |
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| 15:25:00 | Nico_P | JdGordon: hi |
| 15:25:30 | JdGordon | hey |
| 15:25:48 | Nico_P | seen my commits today ? |
| 15:26:07 | JdGordon | not yet |
| 15:26:17 | JdGordon | I tried getting emails working on commits.. but failed |
| 15:27:00 | Nico_P | I can have a look if you want |
| 15:27:13 | JdGordon | na dont worru |
| 15:27:14 | JdGordon | y |
| 15:27:32 | * | Domonoky has a nearly working talk file generator for rbutil :-) |
| 15:27:39 | JdGordon | awesome |
| 15:27:46 | JdGordon | Nico_P: nice work |
| 15:28:01 | Nico_P | I've just found the bug I had |
| 15:28:02 | * | JdGordon tries to finish a timetable viewer in the next hour |
| 15:28:06 | Nico_P | the two missing bytes |
| 15:28:12 | JdGordon | great |
| 15:28:15 | JdGordon | what was the problem? |
| 15:30:14 | Nico_P | I was writing a negative amount of bytes in the file |
| 15:30:23 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 15:30:37 | JdGordon | howd you manage that? |
| 15:30:43 | JdGordon | and why iddnt it come up in testing? |
| 15:31:43 | DerPapst | Good bye everyone ;) |
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| 15:31:51 | Nico_P | it's a case that didn't happen in the sim |
| 15:32:21 | Nico_P | when the data isn't ready yet, bufgetdata returns -2 and I was passing that to write() without checking |
| 15:33:00 | JdGordon | ah |
| 15:33:05 | JdGordon | good thing you found it now |
| 15:34:15 | Nico_P | indeed |
| 15:37:06 | Nico_P | now it should work fine on targets... it's slow but it works |
| 15:37:39 | Nico_P | but it's slow because of the sleep() calls, not because my code is bad :) |
| 15:38:55 | JdGordon | slow is ok... we can always speed it up later |
| 15:38:57 | JdGordon | as long as it works |
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| 15:46:33 | Nico_P | well the playback is slow and the plugin has to work as if the files were being playes back |
| 15:46:38 | Nico_P | *played |
| 15:47:40 | Nico_P | with a too fast playback, buffering also has a hard time keeping up it seems. In my tests, one of the files just returned -1 on read() |
| 15:48:43 | JdGordon | oh, buffering cant keep up woth playback? thats fine.... playback is much slower IRL |
| 15:55:10 | * | bluebrother notices two cities in south germany being mentioned ... |
| 15:56:44 | Nico_P | JdGordon: you mentioned a timetable viewer... is it for rockbox ? |
| 15:57:26 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 15:57:39 | JdGordon | i made one last year but abanded it.. picking it up again now |
| 15:57:41 | Nico_P | nice :) |
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| 15:59:01 | Nico_P | OK, I tested my plugin on my gigabeat and my H300 and it worked perfectly on both :) |
| 15:59:17 | Nico_P | now I'm going to be able to think seriously about MoB |
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| 16:00:09 | JdGordon | :) |
| 16:00:23 | JdGordon | if merging it into the core wasnt so painfull id suggest doing that first |
| 16:01:13 | Nico_P | maybe I should try that first, yeah |
| 16:02:35 | Nico_P | actually the first thing I'm going to do is make the buffer have several files |
| 16:02:40 | Nico_P | currently it's only one |
| 16:03:54 | JdGordon | yay, the timetable rock still works, just needs a massive drawing overhaul and its commitable |
| 16:04:28 | Nico_P | JdGordon: is there a standard timetable format ? |
| 16:04:42 | JdGordon | not that I know of |
| 16:04:59 | JdGordon | vcal might have somethnig... but not really gonna bother checking |
| 16:07:26 | Nico_P | so you're using a custom format of yours ? |
| 16:07:57 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 16:08:27 | JdGordon | :( have to redo the whole screen drawing, and button code |
| 16:12:57 | JdGordon | have we got a wiki page with a descripion of each devices keys? |
| 16:13:23 | bluebrother | JdGordon: you could have a look at the device images in the manual |
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| 16:13:59 | JdGordon | i know, but thats really painful to do for every target |
| 16:14:07 | JdGordon | sim bmps are a bit easier |
| 16:14:17 | JdGordon | actually... no.. manual pngs |
| 16:15:05 | * | JdGordon hopes every target can do 4 directions and a select button |
| 16:15:22 | bluebrother | well, it's only a couple of pngs in manual/rockbox_interface/images |
| 16:15:38 | bluebrother | (the *-front.png files) |
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| 16:19:38 | Nick_Brackley | does anyone know if an mpegplayer fix is being worked on as it is broken and running it results in a *panic* |
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| 16:23:21 | Llorean | Nick_Brackley: Is there a bug report on it in flyspray? |
| 16:30:42 | markun | I played a video this morning and didn't get a panic |
| 16:30:49 | markun | and updated rockbox on friday |
| 16:30:57 | markun | (gigabeat) |
| 16:31:05 | Llorean | markun: I suspect it's the stkov that happens if you don't have a mpegplayer config file. |
| 16:31:16 | markun | aha |
| 16:37:05 | Nick_Brackley | yeah thats the one |
| 16:37:11 | Nick_Brackley | how do i make a congig then? |
| 16:37:24 | Nick_Brackley | im unsure about a flyspray report though |
| 16:37:38 | Nick_Brackley | config that is |
| 16:38:49 | XpecialGuest | when get ouy a new rockbox stable release? |
| 16:38:57 | XpecialGuest | *out |
| 16:40:36 | GodEater | XpecialGuest: There are no plans for one |
| 16:42:21 | Nick_Brackley | is there any work around for the mpegplayer problem? |
| 16:42:49 | GodEater | yes - create an empty confile file |
| 16:43:15 | Nick_Brackley | what must it be named? and where do i place it? |
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| 16:44:47 | GodEater | Nick_Brackley: hang on - I'm searching the irc logs to find out |
| 16:44:52 | GodEater | you could do the same ? |
| 16:45:47 | Nick_Brackley | yes i will, any rough ideas when to look? |
| 16:46:16 | GodEater | Nick_Brackley: mpegplayer.cfg in .rockbox/rocks |
| 16:47:51 | GodEater | Nick_Brackley: for future reference, the easiest way to search the irc logs is to enter "site:www.rockbox.org" followed by your search terms into Google - that's how I do it - so you don't need to know when :) |
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| 16:48:33 | Nick_Brackley | ah ok thanks godeater |
| 16:49:04 | GodEater | Nick_Brackley: had you just upgraded your rockbox install recently to cause this ? |
| 16:51:29 | JdGordon | Nico_P: if your interested.... 2959 is the timetable viewer... only work on the iriver hxxx screens for the moment |
| 16:53:22 | Nick_Brackley | GodEater: yes it has been broken for a couple of days now |
| 16:53:48 | GodEater | Nick_Brackley: so I assume you usually upgrade by deleting your .rockbox directory first ? |
| 16:54:23 | Nick_Brackley | GodEater: yes, i thought this was good practice? |
| 16:54:25 | * | GodEater doesn't do this - he just writes over the top of the old one |
| 16:54:36 | GodEater | that way you don't delete your config files |
| 16:54:47 | Nick_Brackley | oh ok |
| 16:54:53 | GodEater | and anything which needs to get overwrritten will by, whilst things which don't - won't be :) |
| 16:55:01 | GodEater | anyway - I've got to pop out now - later all. |
| 16:55:26 | Nick_Brackley | GodEater: inserting a blank config file does nothing, i still get the same *panic* stkov main |
| 16:56:48 | Nick_Brackley | is anyone able to post their mpegplayer config somewhere? |
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| 17:12:09 | chrisjs169 | Can someone confirm an undefined instruction on the Sansa? |
| 17:12:29 | ThomasLefebvre | hello |
| 17:12:56 | chrisjs169 | (System -> Debug -> FM Radio) |
| 17:13:36 | chrisjs169 | Oh, and there's a prefetch abort there too =/ |
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| 17:18:14 | chrisjs169 | weird - updated and the bug went away |
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| 17:21:16 | ThomasLefebvre | I would like to add a battery benchmark for the iAudio M5L, could someone add me to the TWikiUsersGroup please? or publish the benchmark for me? |
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| 17:23:11 | dan_a | ThomasLefebvre: You have been added |
| 17:23:26 | ThomasLefebvre | thanks! |
| 17:24:46 | XpecialGuest | there are a possibility to add a sound when navigate into menus...like a beep in original firmware in ipod? |
| 17:28:40 | chrisjs169 | Ok, got a new 'bug' - can someone confirm that when going to System -> Debug -> Disk Info, going to microSD 1, going back to the debug info, going back to Disk info displays the microSD 1 information as microSD 0? |
| 17:29:40 | * | chrisjs169 notices that's sort of confusing |
| 17:42:32 | ThomasLefebvre | benchmark added for M5L: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IAudioRuntime (48:48 at volume -40) |
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| 17:47:49 | markun | ThomasLefebvre: pretty sick :) |
| 17:49:29 | ThomasLefebvre | sorry, I'm French and I don't see what you mean by sick, do you mean it ran for an impressive time? I think so, too |
| 17:49:57 | markun | yes, impressive :) |
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| 17:50:53 | ThomasLefebvre | ok thanks (I had only read "sick" as meaning bad things, learnt something today) |
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| 17:51:40 | [bam] | hi |
| 17:51:49 | ThomasLefebvre | hi |
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| 17:54:50 | jhMikeS | chrisjs169: indeed it gets confused. I have it not even show any info the first time I go to the screen after boot. |
| 17:55:11 | chrisjs169 | jhMikeS: yes, same with mine |
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| 18:01:17 | stripwax | Domonoky - my real name shows up in the patch tracker entry too ;-) |
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| 18:05:15 | [bam] | may i ask a little about a rockboxed 30g ipod ? |
| 18:05:29 | markun | sure |
| 18:05:51 | stripwax | [bam] - you don't need to ask if you can ask a question; you can just ask a question ;-) |
| 18:06:02 | [bam] | gg |
| 18:07:31 | [bam] | ok, so .. i'm a little bit confused about unicode bdf fonts |
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| 18:08:54 | pIkAs | hi |
| 18:08:58 | markun | [bam]: does this help? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeFonts |
| 18:09:00 | [bam] | AFAIK the only font in rockbox that could display simplified chinese, hiragana, and katakana properly is sazanami mincho |
| 18:09:15 | [bam] | thx |
| 18:09:24 | [bam] | goona see it first |
| 18:09:41 | pIkAs | any one knows if with rockbox is possible to adjuts the audio signal of dock conector? |
| 18:10:18 | markun | [bam]: do you know of some nice free fonts we could include? |
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| 18:11:12 | [bam] | actually thats the problem |
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| 18:11:47 | [bam] | markun: very well then. i think i'm gonna go for a search |
| 18:12:16 | markun | [bam]: you could convert a TTF font, but the result is usually not very good |
| 18:12:27 | [bam] | markun: thats the point |
| 18:12:50 | [bam] | markun: im using windows and have tried a few ttfs |
| 18:13:11 | markun | [bam]: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4878 |
| 18:13:34 | [bam] | markun: so im gonna search for bdfs |
| 18:15:17 | [bam] | markun: .. time for a bit of learning .. thx guys :) cu |
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| 18:17:21 | * | stripwax thinks he's got the hang of nickserv now.. |
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| 18:18:24 | Guest2387158 | aye |
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| 18:18:31 | | Nick Guest2387158 is now known as hiromi886 (n=a@69.239.61.232) |
| 18:18:52 | hiromi886 | Anyone here thats decent with rockbox and wouldn't mind answerin a few questions? |
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| 18:19:22 | * | stripwax wonders how stable miranda actually is - it just crashed! |
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| 18:21:35 | markun | hiromi886: just ask |
| 18:21:46 | markun | then we can decide if we are able to answer :) |
| 18:22:25 | stripwax | Domonoky - is rbutil on the build server or is it built manually currently? |
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| 18:24:18 | burra_7 | hello, updated the firmware on my ipod nano 1gig today. Now i get the "Data abort at " message. I read at the forum that the reason is that the bootloader is now to old. My question now is : How do I easiest update my bootloader |
| 18:24:38 | hiromi886 | ah |
| 18:25:24 | markun | burra_7: I think http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 18:26:12 | burra_7 | ok thanks I will give it a try |
| 18:26:35 | hiromi886 | I sync'd some music files from itunes, and rockbox just doesn't detect it |
| 18:26:42 | hiromi886 | Is there something special I have to do? |
| 18:27:03 | stripwax | hiromi886 - are you using "Database" view? |
| 18:27:08 | stripwax | you might need to update the database |
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| 18:27:53 | hiromi886 | Yeah I'm using database, I stuck a couple songs in to test it |
| 18:28:02 | hiromi886 | And only one showed up and it wouldn't play |
| 18:28:18 | stripwax | what audio format is it? if it's DRM, rockbox won't be able to play it.. |
| 18:28:41 | hiromi886 | Its just mp3 |
| 18:28:53 | hiromi886 | When I check in itunes and everything, its there |
| 18:29:03 | hiromi886 | Its just that when I go to database->artists and find it |
| 18:29:06 | hiromi886 | It doesn't play/show up |
| 18:29:09 | stripwax | did you get any error when trying to play that mp3 on your ipod? does it play in the regular Apple firmware? |
| 18:29:14 | hiromi886 | Ya |
| 18:29:20 | hiromi886 | Plays fine normally |
| 18:29:52 | stripwax | so it plays when you boot to Apple but doesn't play when you boot to Rockbox? and the other file doesn't show up at all? very weird! could you post that mp3 file that doesn't work somewhere? |
| 18:31:40 | hiromi886 | Hold on, let me make sure its not a noobie error on my part ;p |
| 18:31:44 | stripwax | ok ;-) |
| 18:31:48 | hiromi886 | I just got this rockbox so I'm still gettin used to it |
| 18:32:50 | hiromi886 | doh, there it is |
| 18:32:54 | stripwax | heh |
| 18:32:59 | hiromi886 | the long select on database gives the update menu ;p |
| 18:33:01 | Domonoky | stripwax: its is manually build.. |
| 18:33:37 | stripwax | Domonoky - I think I'll trust your code::block builds more than my cygwin builds :) |
| 18:33:49 | Domonoky | stripwax: if you plan to pput a new version to the wiki, push the version.. :-) |
| 18:34:06 | stripwax | hiromi886 - yep, and you can also set it to automatically update each time |
| 18:34:07 | hiromi886 | Now just a fast second question if you don't mind hehe |
| 18:34:14 | hiromi886 | Is there a way to make the menus easier to navigate? |
| 18:34:19 | stripwax | "easier" how? |
| 18:34:42 | stripwax | Domonoky - I'd have to update the version number, and I don't have svn write access .. :) |
| 18:34:52 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 18:35:00 | stripwax | so it's best if you could do that .. |
| 18:35:12 | Domonoky | i will do it later.. |
| 18:35:21 | stripwax | (or if any dev is listening .. any chance I could get write access? pretty please? :-) |
| 18:35:25 | hiromi886 | Um, like the normal menu, I always overshoot the selection, cuz the fonts super small |
| 18:35:35 | hiromi886 | Is there a way to make the menu font maybe 1 or 2 points bigger? |
| 18:35:38 | stripwax | hiromi886 - well you can make the fonts larger of course. check the manual |
| 18:35:57 | Domonoky | stripwax: i already recommended you .. :-) |
| 18:36:05 | hiromi886 | Ah okie thanks ^^ |
| 18:36:22 | stripwax | rockbox uses the same font for menus, filebrowser, database and wps screen - currently you only have one font at a time. but you can pick as large a font as you like! |
| 18:36:32 | stripwax | Domonoky - thanks! :-) |
| 18:37:24 | hiromi886 | Ah alright |
| 18:37:51 | hiromi886 | I threw together a wps, and was wondering if the main wps song screen could have 1 font, but the menu have bigger |
| 18:38:01 | hiromi886 | But if its all 1 font, I can always juggle things a bit I guess |
| 18:38:05 | stripwax | hiromi886 - not yet, I'm afraid, sorry.. |
| 18:38:22 | stripwax | I think there's an unofficial patch for that but I don't know how well it works |
| 18:38:27 | hiromi886 | Cool though, I enjoy rockbox greatly over the normal apple firmware ;p |
| 18:38:31 | stripwax | great! |
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| 18:56:00 | hiromi886 | Mmm one final question if I may |
| 18:56:14 | hiromi886 | Is there a way to choose between botting with rockbox or standard? |
| 18:56:17 | hiromi886 | booting* |
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| 18:57:45 | Soul-Slayer | Yeah |
| 18:57:51 | Soul-Slayer | When the player boots up |
| 18:57:58 | Soul-Slayer | Put hold on, and it will boot into appleOS |
| 18:58:07 | Soul-Slayer | Take it off again and use as normal |
| 18:58:21 | Soul-Slayer | And reset the player using Menu and Select to get back to Rockbox |
| 18:59:03 | hiromi886 | Aha! |
| 18:59:05 | hiromi886 | Thanks! |
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| 19:00:11 | petur | this and much more can be found in the manual.... |
| 19:01:27 | Soul-Slayer | I double up as a manual, I have little else to do :p |
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| 19:03:21 | hiromi886 | Mmm now the problems start ;p |
| 19:03:24 | hiromi886 | Its not detecting |
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| 19:05:01 | Soul-Slayer | Put it into disk mode manually? |
| 19:05:53 | hiromi886 | Yeah did that, its just not pickin up |
| 19:06:00 | hiromi886 | Gonna fiddle with it some more I guess |
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| 19:14:42 | donkee | Hello |
| 19:15:00 | donkee | I have just install rockbox on my iPod |
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| 19:16:07 | Soul-Slayer | Congratulations? |
| 19:17:23 | donkee | Thanks |
| 19:17:35 | donkee | I will just ask for play mpeg file |
| 19:17:55 | donkee | But, i don't put vidz in my ipod |
| 19:18:27 | Soul-Slayer | You want to play files that aren't on your player? |
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| 19:18:38 | donkee | No non |
| 19:18:40 | donkee | no no |
| 19:18:57 | Soul-Slayer | You want to convert videos and put them on your player? |
| 19:19:02 | donkee | no |
| 19:19:11 | donkee | I won't to see vidz |
| 19:19:21 | donkee | But i didn't saw the plugin in the list plugin |
| 19:19:24 | Soul-Slayer | Ah |
| 19:19:30 | donkee | I will just send question |
| 19:19:32 | Soul-Slayer | Go into 'Files' on your main menu |
| 19:19:36 | Soul-Slayer | Find where you put it |
| 19:19:38 | Soul-Slayer | And open it from there |
| 19:19:44 | donkee | But i remember thath this plugin don't appear in the list ! |
| 19:19:53 | Soul-Slayer | It's a viewer rather than a plugin |
| 19:19:58 | donkee | That's why i don't ask ! |
| 19:20:07 | Soul-Slayer | I... I'm confused. |
| 19:20:45 | donkee | Now, i have put vidz and i can play |
| 19:20:59 | donkee | Because the vidz plug don't appear in plug list ! |
| 19:21:08 | Soul-Slayer | It isn't meant to |
| 19:21:15 | Soul-Slayer | You 'open' video files |
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| 19:22:51 | donkee | Do you know the size of the screen ? |
| 19:22:58 | donkee | For an iPod photo ? |
| 19:22:58 | Soul-Slayer | Which player is it? |
| 19:23:33 | Soul-Slayer | 220x176 |
| 19:23:33 | donkee | The base plugin |
| 19:24:03 | petur | donkee: go read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer and then come back |
| 19:24:29 | donkee | petur, that why I didn't said my first question |
| 19:24:52 | petur | ? |
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| 19:25:54 | donkee | My first question is: Whye the mpeg plug don't appear in plug list |
| 19:26:00 | Soul-Slayer | I answered that |
| 19:26:05 | Soul-Slayer | And so does the wiki page |
| 19:26:27 | petur | donkee: you PLAY the file just like you play music files |
| 19:26:28 | Soul-Slayer | It doesn't have to be shown in the plugin list, because it opens when you open a video |
| 19:26:49 | petur | donkee: why assk questions when you do not read the answers |
| 19:26:50 | donkee | Iyes i read this |
| 19:26:56 | petur | *ask |
| 19:27:01 | donkee | Ha !!!!!! |
| 19:27:09 | Soul-Slayer | Eh |
| 19:27:13 | donkee | I think, you don't understand me |
| 19:27:19 | donkee | And i don't understand you ! |
| 19:27:19 | Soul-Slayer | This is quite likely |
| 19:27:33 | petur | (that was a true typo, no ass <-> donkey thing) |
| 19:28:00 | donkee | petur, pfou ! |
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| 19:32:03 | donkee | Now, real question |
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| 19:32:14 | donkee | How to adjust sound during playing file |
| 19:32:30 | Soul-Slayer | Wheel right = volume up, wheel left = volume down |
| 19:32:34 | Soul-Slayer | Same as in appleOS |
| 19:33:09 | donkee | Because, with the sample vidz i tried but i don't eard some thing different |
| 19:33:28 | Soul-Slayer | You need to make sure your videos are encoded right |
| 19:33:51 | donkee | This is the sample vidz |
| 19:33:57 | Soul-Slayer | Ok. |
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| 19:48:27 | donkee | So, now i must reencode vidz for my iPod! |
| 19:50:50 | donkee | Cheat! Naruto don't wont to reencode correctly :/ |
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| 19:53:28 | Soul-Slayer | What are you using to encode it, and what file type is it |
| 19:53:51 | donkee | I use mencoder |
| 19:54:07 | donkee | Whit the command line that i find in wiki page |
| 19:54:08 | Soul-Slayer | Try WinFF if you are on windows, that's what I use and have no problems |
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| 19:54:47 | donkee | Ok, i will try |
| 19:55:04 | donkee | Maybe tomorrow !!!! Because it's very late ! |
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| 20:04:18 | donkee | Thank you for your |
| 20:04:20 | donkee | help |
| 20:04:26 | donkee | Now I will go to sleep ! |
| 20:04:30 | Soul-Slayer | No problem/ |
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| 20:07:31 | PaulJam | bah, i hate it when i can't reproduce a bug with the official build. |
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| 20:15:14 | chrisjs169 | Does mpegplayer support subtitles in movies? |
| 20:15:54 | zevv | Hello all. Latest rockbox on my Iaudio X5 dies with a 'PANIC stkov main' when playing the sample video. Any references available on this issue ? |
| 20:17:13 | Soul-Slayer | chrisjs169: With a patch I believe |
| 20:17:41 | chrisjs169 | Soul-Slayer: 'k - looking for it now |
| 20:18:49 | Soul-Slayer | chrisjs169: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7252 |
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| 20:19:11 | chrisjs169 | yup, found it - thanks |
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| 20:22:19 | Lear | zew: Could be because the mpegplayer.cfg file is missing. (I.e., a known bug.) |
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| 20:24:21 | zevv | lear: ok, i found that one and tried the fix, but no success yet |
| 20:24:30 | zevv | well, I'll give it another try in a few weeks or months |
| 20:24:33 | zevv | thanks for the tip anyway |
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| 20:32:50 | PaulJam | heh, i just found a funny behaviour. if you select database and it asks you to initialize and you abort and then start playback. if you stop playback from the wps it asks again to initialise and if you abort it resumes playback instead of golng to the main menu. |
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| 20:38:08 | lymeca | I've got an HFS+ formatted 30GB 4th Gen Color iPod and I need to switch it over to FAT32 to put Rockbox on. However on the wiki page for the conversion there is no option for a 30GB 4th Gen in the partition table download list. What do I do? |
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| 20:39:15 | Llorean | lymeca: Find someone with a FAT32 30GB 4G iPod, make a copy of their partition table, and then upload it to the wiki for the other people in your situation. |
| 20:40:17 | lymeca | Llorean: I only have one 30GB 4G iPod and it's stuck in HFS+ land. I would love to upload it to the wiki and help out, but... chicken and egg problem! |
| 20:41:16 | saratoga | you could use a linux or windows pc to fix it |
| 20:41:44 | bluebrother | lymeca: you might try using a parition table for a 4G of different size and then change the data partition |
| 20:42:07 | saratoga | also, I don't understand why its not possible to format an ipod as fat32 in macos |
| 20:42:08 | lymeca | saratoga: I only have a GNU/Linux machine available to me. |
| 20:42:26 | saratoga | then can't you just format it fat32? |
| 20:42:38 | bluebrother | saratoga: the partition table is different ... |
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| 20:44:08 | bluebrother | lymeca: I would use the 20GB MBR instead and use fdisk on linux afterwards to remove and restore the second (i.e. data) partition |
| 20:44:22 | bluebrother | I did a similar thing to convert a CF card to an Ipod disc once |
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| 20:44:34 | lymeca | Would using GParted work? |
| 20:44:42 | bluebrother | I guess so. |
| 20:44:44 | lymeca | Do just delete the second partition |
| 20:44:51 | lymeca | And then perhaps mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd2 |
| 20:44:58 | lymeca | where sdd is the iPod |
| 20:45:18 | bluebrother | well, I just wrote the MBR to the card, then deleted the 2nd partition and created a new one, spawning all of the remaining space on the card |
| 20:45:38 | bluebrother | you just need to make sure it doesn't include the first partition as that is marked empty. |
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| 20:46:16 | bluebrother | but in my case there wasn't anything on the card −− there is a slight chance that this might destroy loading of the OF |
| 20:46:58 | bluebrother | but for loading the OF I just dd'ed the firmware file to the empty partition |
| 20:47:06 | lymeca | When the iPod is HFS+ formatted there are 3 partitions |
| 20:47:09 | lymeca | which is confusing |
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| 20:47:33 | bluebrother | never had access to a HFS+ formatted Ipod |
| 20:47:41 | bluebrother | so I can't tell anything about that ... |
| 20:47:45 | lymeca | FAT32 is simple: MBR, partition 1 with Rockbox boot loader and Apple firmware, and partition 2 with Rockbox itself and data. |
| 20:48:06 | lymeca | Is that right? |
| 20:48:14 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 20:48:21 | bluebrother | at least afaik ;-) |
| 20:48:57 | lymeca | If I had a legit partition table for my iPod's size I could get the bin file and dd it to /dev/sdd correct? |
| 20:49:02 | lymeca | As in not sdd1 |
| 20:49:13 | lymeca | But just dd partitiontable.bin /dev/sdd |
| 20:49:19 | lymeca | The block device itself |
| 20:49:20 | bluebrother | yes. The partition table is the first 512 bytes of the disk |
| 20:49:41 | lymeca | It's slightly confusing because of HFS+ formatted iPods having three partitions |
| 20:49:52 | lymeca | I might be inclined to dd it to the /dev/sdd1 |
| 20:50:54 | bluebrother | no, to convert the partition table you need to dd it to the disk itself, not any partition. |
| 20:51:36 | lymeca | The block device file that represents the disk itself always is the MBR? As in /dev/sdd is the MBR and just the MBR of te iPod? |
| 20:51:46 | lymeca | Same with /dev/sda for my normal HDD? That is the MBR? |
| 20:51:49 | GodEater | no |
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| 20:52:00 | GodEater | /dev/sdd is the whole disk |
| 20:52:08 | bluebrother | /dev/sdd is the complete disk, starting with sector 0 (which is the mbr) |
| 20:52:13 | GodEater | but writiing to /dev/sdd1 will miss the first 512 bytes |
| 20:52:20 | GodEater | and will break you ripod |
| 20:52:39 | lymeca | GodEater: It's still fixable... I did it on my first Rockbox install =P |
| 20:53:02 | bluebrother | generally, it will start where the first partition starts (which is not necessarily sector 1) |
| 20:53:29 | lymeca | OKay so if /dev/sdd is the whole disk, then /dev/sdd1 always starts 512 bytes after the start of the disk? |
| 20:53:44 | lymeca | Just like I can safely assume /dev/sda1 starts 512 bytes after the beginning? |
| 20:53:47 | GodEater | no - as bluebrother says it'll follow the partition layout |
| 20:54:04 | GodEater | so if partition one starts at 10000024 bytes - that's where /dev/sdd1 is |
| 20:54:11 | lymeca | Oh right that depends on what data is IN the MBR |
| 20:54:16 | GodEater | yes |
| 20:54:17 | lymeca | the partition table |
| 20:54:25 | bluebrother | in a (dos) partition table is a marker where the actual partition starts. |
| 20:54:48 | GodEater | I guess an apple parition map works similarly |
| 20:54:53 | GodEater | but is laid out differently |
| 20:55:02 | GodEater | as it somehow appears as /dev/sdd1 on a Mac |
| 20:55:11 | lymeca | OKay so I could create a partition ttable saying partition 1 to start at 2048 bytes into the disk and end 4096 bytes into the disk, so /dev/sdd1 would refer to those 2048 bytes only? |
| 20:55:33 | GodEater | lymeca: yes |
| 20:56:04 | lymeca | And the way Linux knows what /dev/sdd1 actually is is by examining the first 512 bytes on the entire device, or /dev/sdd? |
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| 20:56:29 | GodEater | it reads the parition table in the MBR |
| 20:56:34 | lymeca | Or does the partition table not need to be 512 bytes? |
| 20:56:42 | lymeca | Can the MBR be larger for some reason? |
| 20:56:48 | bluebrother | the partition table is always the first 512 bytes of the disk |
| 20:56:53 | GodEater | the partition tables is much smaller than 512 bytes |
| 20:57:01 | GodEater | the *MBR* is 512 bytes exactly |
| 20:57:09 | GodEater | and the partition table is contained in that |
| 20:57:17 | bluebrother | right. The partition table itself is only 0x40 bytes |
| 20:57:28 | GodEater | lymeca: wikipedia explains this very well |
| 20:58:45 | chrisjs169 | There's an ABI >> user still reporting that their Sansa freezes on boot due to the MicroSD patch |
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| 21:00:31 | Llorean | chrisjs169: Then have them file a bug report with proper instructions for reproducing it and what SVN revision they're using when it happens, and maybe whether they have a 1.0 or 1.1 board? |
| 21:01:35 | bluebrother | hmm. Does anybody know a website describing the HFS partition table? Haven't found anything :( |
| 21:01:49 | GodEater | bluebrother: search for apple partition map |
| 21:01:53 | GodEater | that's what it's called as I recall |
| 21:02:12 | bluebrother | ah, that was it. Thanks! |
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| 21:03:11 | lymeca | Okay so once I have mbr-4g-20gb.bin all I need to do is "dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sdd" and the contents of the .bin file will be copied to my ipod's MBR replacing the first 512 bytes of the device with what's in the .bin file. |
| 21:03:45 | lymeca | Why don't I need to use "dd if=mbr-4g-20gb.bin of=/dev/sdd bs=512 count=1" like Wikipedia recommends? |
| 21:03:59 | bluebrother | because the file is only 512 bytes |
| 21:04:27 | bluebrother | and the default bs is 512 iirc. |
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| 21:04:55 | lymeca | So dd knows not to replace the whole sdd with 512 bytes then zeros, it just replaces however many bytes the source file is large? |
| 21:05:27 | bluebrother | it replaces as much bytes as you put in (determined by your input file) or as much as you tell it to do |
| 21:06:02 | bluebrother | bs is the size of the blocks it writes, and count the number. bs=512 matches disk sectors, and count=1 just writes one sector |
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| 21:18:41 | webguest34 | atsea-: I just got Rockbox a couple of weeks ago. What I am wondering is: how do I get files on my iPod video? I looked in the manual but it didn't really say anything so I am a bit confused. |
| 21:19:12 | webguest34 | andrew_: |
| 21:19:49 | Domonoky | webguest34: just copy and paste them to your ipod. |
| 21:20:18 | Domonoky | anywhere on the harddrive.. like make a music dir and put it in it.. |
| 21:21:31 | webguest34 | andrew_: |
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| 21:27:05 | petur | did anybody see http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.20/20.04/SnowDay/index.html already? |
| 21:28:30 | petur | I wonder if the nano2 uses the same system and offers a way to extract its firware that way |
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| 21:29:21 | chrisjs169 | Llorean: it happens when Rockbox is booting - freezes at the boot logo, with error SDCard 10 after a few hours, in any build with the microsd patch (which is now every revision after June 30, IIRC) |
| 21:30:51 | Llorean | chrisjs169: "Proper bug report" means "posted to flyspray", plus "every build" doesn't matter to me, does it happen after the changes recently specifically to fix that hang (which is why I asked for an SVN revision) |
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| 21:31:14 | * | petur takes back his above two lines - seems it's fake :/ |
| 21:31:15 | Llorean | Not every developer is around here all the time, and not everyone has time to read all the logs, so post bugs in the proper place with full details. |
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| 21:32:14 | * | bluebrother wonders why last.fm radio doesn't use ReplayGain or some other kind of normalization |
| 21:34:02 | Llorean | petur: Yes, if the Apple OS depended on files in the filesystem, deleting iPod_Control would break it. It doesn't. |
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| 22:30:16 | * | Bagder reads the silly slashdot article about os x on ipod that actually is an april fool's joke |
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| 22:31:53 | Bagder | haha |
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| 22:35:52 | linuxstb | bluebrother: If you're interested, ipodpatcher contains a simple parser for Apple Partition Maps. |
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| 22:36:00 | Lear | Read a rumor that the 6G ipods would use os x though (i.e., similar to the iphone)... |
| 22:36:19 | Soap | the mac/apple world is 90% rumor |
| 22:36:57 | Bagder | I'd say it is likely that a 6G ipod would be based on something iphone'ish |
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| 22:37:15 | Soap | logic says a real/full OS is useful on an internet-connected phone but not on a non-connected PMP |
| 22:37:16 | Bagder | but hey, we never know... |
| 22:37:33 | Bagder | well, they're bound to use lots of similar tech |
| 22:37:46 | Lear | Yep, it isn't that far-fetched at least. Take an iphone and remove a bunch of stuff. |
| 22:37:49 | Bagder | possibly wifi/bluetooth too etc |
| 22:38:10 | petur | and the GSM part of course ;) |
| 22:38:50 | nekura42 | odd... IRC client is glitched... if anyone said anything to me, I haven't seen it... brb |
| 22:38:55 | Llorean | Soap: Yes, but the Zune runs embedded Windows. |
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| 22:39:13 | Soap | true |
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| 22:39:22 | nekura42 | test |
| 22:39:23 | Llorean | It means one less set of software to maintain. |
| 22:39:26 | nekura42 | ok.... wow.. that was odd |
| 22:39:31 | Soap | but MS didn't have an existing embedded OS other than CE, did they? |
| 22:39:40 | Bagder | and the zune _does_ use wifi... |
| 22:39:50 | Llorean | Bagder: But the Gigabeat S doesn't. :-P |
| 22:39:55 | petur | also read they cracked zune DRM... now they need to do the same for the firmware encryption |
| 22:39:56 | Bagder | true |
| 22:40:05 | nekura42 | Even with wifi, I still wouldn't want a Zune... lol (no offense to anyone here) |
| 22:40:20 | Llorean | Soap: I figure they might trim it down just so they don't have people split among as many software projects. |
| 22:40:44 | Soap | I could see that, apple collapsing their embedded offerings down to one. |
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| 22:41:35 | Bagder | that would be one at app-level they'll still use different hw so they'll need different flavours etc |
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| 22:43:06 | saratoga | Soap: MS has CE and Windows Moble |
| 22:43:10 | saratoga | probably others too |
| 22:43:19 | saratoga | they make about a million different embedded products |
| 22:43:23 | saratoga | embedded XP |
| 22:43:29 | petur | Windows Mobile == CE |
| 22:43:47 | Llorean | I thought Windows Mobile was the descendant of CE |
| 22:44:02 | petur | saratoga: they just have a line of versions of CE |
| 22:44:20 | petur | complete with a nice devkit |
| 22:45:24 | saratoga | ah you're right |
| 22:45:30 | saratoga | stupid MS and their naming |
| 22:45:38 | petur | indeed |
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| 22:47:09 | Soap | saratoga, what is the difference between them? I thought WM5 was simply a marketing name for the latest version of CE? |
| 22:47:31 | Soap | nvm, just read the rest |
| 22:48:09 | petur | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE |
| 22:48:28 | petur | or rather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Windows_CE_Timeline.png |
| 22:49:08 | Llorean | Windows Automotive? |
| 22:49:19 | * | Llorean may have to be more careful purchasing his next car. |
| 22:49:21 | petur | yeah... don't think about it ;) |
| 22:49:46 | * | scorche would hate for his car to BSOD |
| 22:49:52 | saratoga | theres also a version that runs on planes |
| 22:50:01 | saratoga | guy i went to school with ended working on those |
| 22:50:22 | scorche | at least a plane can glide...if the engines go out, it isnt relly that big of an issue |
| 22:50:46 | Llorean | As long as you can get them back again in a very short period of time. :-P |
| 22:50:47 | Bagder | I've leared that the Volvo S80 actually may show a "please reboot" message |
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| 22:50:56 | Bagder | although phrased differently |
| 22:51:13 | Soap | dang - 747-100 has a 17.7:1 glide ratio. |
| 22:51:39 | gantrixx | can anyone recommend a good channel where I could ask some questions about mp3/AAC/Vorbis or Ogg/mp4? |
| 22:51:44 | Soap | you _could_ reach many airports if Windows went caput, as long as you weren't over the ocean. |
| 22:52:13 | Soap | #hydrogen-audio for technical assuming the channel has any life left. |
| 22:52:21 | scorche | yeah...the ocean is the main no-no place |
| 22:52:26 | nekura42 | I sure hope the MS software on the airplane is only used by the waitresses to process food orders and such |
| 22:52:31 | saratoga | probably want to just post on HA directly |
| 22:52:57 | scorche | nekura42: well, planes have to have so many redundant systems... |
| 22:53:04 | nekura42 | true |
| 22:53:14 | Llorean | Besides, you're also working within a lot more constraints than "Desktop PC" |
| 22:53:21 | saratoga | apparently they have some interesting real time stuff, where you preallocate how many CPU cycles you're going to need |
| 22:53:28 | saratoga | probably related to windows in name only |
| 22:53:35 | gantrixx | does anyone know if the album art is actually stored in the container (mp3 or ogg) on an ipod? |
| 22:54:07 | linuxstb | If you're referring to Apple's firmware, then no, it uses an album art database. |
| 22:54:08 | Llorean | gantrixx: I believe it's just stored somewhere in the database. It couldn't be in Ogg since the Apple OS doesn't support Ogg at all. |
| 22:54:38 | gantrixx | yes, but could ogg contain album art if it wanted to? |
| 22:54:49 | Soap | yes |
| 22:54:59 | gantrixx | so could mp4 then I'm guessing |
| 22:55:22 | gantrixx | I'm surprised someone hasn't hacked the ipod yet so that you could install an ogg plugin |
| 22:55:35 | saratoga | what like rockbox? |
| 22:55:56 | Bagder | gantrixx: "somone" did |
| 22:55:57 | gantrixx | rockbox is not a plugin |
| 22:55:59 | Bagder | someone |
| 22:56:05 | gantrixx | it's a complete rewrite of the firmware |
| 22:56:16 | Llorean | Well the Apple_OS doesn't exactly have a plugin architecture. |
| 22:56:17 | saratoga | well its not possible to write plugins for the apple firmware |
| 22:56:25 | saratoga | damn it |
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| 23:30:47 | Zagor | ehlo |
| 23:30:58 | Bagder | evening! |
| 23:31:48 | Zagor | can I just take this opportunity to reinforce my "grumpy old man" image and say I'm not too happy with the menu macro mania? |
| 23:31:56 | * | SiebaZ is away (Sleeping zzzZZZZzzzzzZZZzzz) |
| 23:32:02 | Bagder | I agree 100% |
| 23:32:15 | * | bluebrother returns to keyboard and remembers to be a grumpy old man too |
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| 23:38:03 | bluebrother | hmm, the time screen isn't useable on the remote if the font is too big. |
| 23:38:05 | petur | by coincidence, I'm trying to decipher some part of that menu code atm :( |
| 23:38:22 | bluebrother | or say, the last lines get truncated making it somewhat unintuitive |
| 23:39:00 | petur | brb |
| 23:39:23 | * | bluebrother wonders how much fun that deciphering is |
| 23:39:26 | Zagor | petur: yeah. i was going to do a quick hack to fix the gigabeat bass thingy. but I still haven't penetrated the web of macros... |
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| 23:43:28 | bluebrother | JdGordon put a wiki page up describing that "JdGordon-is-lazy-and-likes-macros™ macro system!" as he calls it ... http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingTheMenuAPI |
| 23:43:50 | bluebrother | not sure what I should think about this naming :o |
| 23:44:14 | Zagor | well it's honest at least :) |
| 23:44:23 | bluebrother | true :) |
| 23:45:17 | bluebrother | also, macros are a great thing −− *if* you use them carefully. But I don't think I'm telling anything new ;-) |
| 23:45:43 | Bagder | macros are fine, but not when used to create a whole new programming language |
| 23:46:12 | Zagor | this wiki page is an excellent illustration of why macros can be bad: he just created a new language, that needs documentation. |
| 23:46:50 | bluebrother | yeah, I read some really bad examples in "Expert C programming" (which is a great book btw) |
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| 23:48:14 | Zagor | Bagder: is there anything prepared in the makefiles that allows me to run the preprocessor only? |
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| 23:48:40 | Bagder | Zagor: 1) run "make V=1" 2) copy and paste the full command line and replace -c with -E ;-) |
| 23:48:50 | Zagor | heh, thanks |
| 23:49:30 | Soul-Slayer | Does anyone understand the purpose of this patch? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7437 |
| 23:50:48 | Soul-Slayer | Just sounds like it would mess up the database, aswell as cause me to accidentally delete half my songs accidentally. And there's nothing stopping them from deleting songs manually by leaving the WPS and doing it through the file tree |
| 23:50:49 | Zagor | Soul-Slayer: yeah, it's in the category "I know I can already do this with 4 clicks, but I want to do it in 2 clicks" |
| 23:51:03 | Soul-Slayer | Heh, I see |
| 23:51:14 | bluebrother | and it's also triggering a known bug :) |
| 23:51:15 | Zagor | at least that's what it looks like to me |
| 23:51:30 | Zagor | bluebrother: a good reason to reject it ;) |
| 23:51:37 | bluebrother | maybe the poster didn't know about the "follow playlist" option? |
| 23:51:43 | bluebrother | Zagor: go! go! go! ;-) |
| 23:54:26 | * | linuxstb thinks a delete option in the context menu makes sense.. |
| 23:55:34 | Soul-Slayer | I can't think when I've ever needed to delete a song on-the-fly |
| 23:55:53 | Soul-Slayer | It doesn't exactly hurt to leave it there, and who knows, I may like it after listening to it for a while |
| 23:56:09 | Soul-Slayer | And if I really wanted to delete it for whatever reason, the option IS there |
| 23:56:12 | bluebrother | it's kinda funny to read what features are "needed" |
| 23:56:49 | bluebrother | if you delete tracks frequently you could just put them into a playlist and just delete all files in that playlist when syncing. |
| 23:56:56 | linuxstb | It's not something I would use, but can imagine people who copy lots of random music to their DAP, and would like to delete tracks they don't like as they're listening. |
| 23:57:39 | linuxstb | The patch just adds an extra item to an array - so code-size is hardly an issue. But the related bug(s) should be fixed... |
| 23:57:41 | Zagor | linuxstb: still, it's not exactly a chore to switch into the file browser and delete it |
| 23:57:46 | bluebrother | If I detect broken tracks I usually use a special playlist to find them later again. |
| 23:57:58 | linuxstb | e.g. FS #5642 |
| 23:58:12 | Soul-Slayer | Especially if you're listening to music through the file browser in the first place |
| 23:58:20 | Soul-Slayer | You merely have to back out of the WPS and delete it that way |
| 23:58:33 | linuxstb | Only if you're enabled follow-playlist... |
| 23:58:38 | Soul-Slayer | Unless it's named something weird and you can only recognise it from it's ID3 tag |
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