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00:02:30 | iamben | posingaspopular: seems you have some self-esteem issues =) |
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00:03:26 | amiconn | Soul-Slayer: You could check one thing when the H10 freezes next time: The display is somewhat readable in directed light (sunlight, torchlight etc). Check whether the display shows a blurred afterimage of what was there before, overlaid with some tiny writing at the top of the screen |
00:04:08 | amiconn | This is not a plain freeze |
00:04:39 | Soul-Slayer | How many you managed to make it freeze so far? I haven't been able to replicate it, it just seems to happen |
00:05:00 | amiconn | Only once today |
00:05:07 | amiconn | About 3 times yesterday |
00:05:22 | Soul-Slayer | Ack, I hate using my H10 now I have a gigabeat lol |
00:05:27 | amiconn | Takes 20..30 minutes to happen - if it happens at all |
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00:05:30 | Soul-Slayer | The screen is just so disgusting |
00:05:48 | Soul-Slayer | Was it always in the WPS? |
00:05:54 | amiconn | yes |
00:06:07 | amiconn | I couldn't make it freeze in the audio thread debug screen |
00:06:14 | Soul-Slayer | Typical, really. |
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00:06:17 | posingaspopular | iamben: no i have issues with not reading correctly because i want to get this done |
00:06:18 | posingaspopular | xD |
00:06:20 | amiconn | It seems independent of the format played |
00:06:52 | Soul-Slayer | posingaspopular: That's the fastest way to make sure it never gets done :p |
00:07:12 | amiconn | Yesterday I thought that playing flac makes it more likely, but after playing the same flac album 3 times without freeze, I switched to mp3 and it froze after half an hour... |
00:07:23 | Soul-Slayer | Hmmm |
00:07:38 | Soul-Slayer | What bitrate MP3, do you recall? |
00:08:24 | amiconn | vbr (lame −−preset standard) |
00:08:27 | webguest62 | Hi i know that this isn't a rockbox question but can anyone help? i'm trying to install ipod linux on my 5g video ipod i already have rockbox but i want ipod linux too. |
00:08:36 | posingaspopular | okay my ipod isn't being detected, even though i plugged it in when it was in discmode |
00:08:46 | webguest62 | i already tried using their IRC but i cant log in |
00:08:50 | posingaspopular | well it was recognized, but i have no idea what the mount point is |
00:08:50 | Soul-Slayer | webguest62: Try #ipodlinux |
00:08:58 | Soul-Slayer | You don't need to log in do you? |
00:09:15 | amiconn | Okay, next test |
00:09:23 | * | amiconn changed something in the clock setup |
00:09:37 | Soul-Slayer | Right well, I shall leave my H10 playing and check if it freezes in a moment |
00:09:37 | GodEater | posingaspopular: you don't need to know the mount point |
00:09:46 | webguest62 | it says that firefox doesn't know how to open the adress |
00:09:48 | Soul-Slayer | And by a moment, I mean a few hours. |
00:09:48 | GodEater | posingaspopular: you DO need to run ipodpatcher as root |
00:09:55 | posingaspopular | oh well how do i do that |
00:09:58 | Soul-Slayer | webguest62: Type /join #ipodlinux |
00:10:02 | posingaspopular | because it says 'no ipods found' |
00:10:11 | webguest62 | where do i type it |
00:10:13 | posingaspopular | i fail at command line |
00:10:17 | Soul-Slayer | In this chat bar. |
00:10:56 | webguest62 | there is no chat bar so i cant even go to the IRC page |
00:11:16 | scorche | webguest62: out cgi client only lets you access #rockbox |
00:11:19 | scorche | our |
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00:11:29 | Soul-Slayer | That explains that then. |
00:11:50 | webguest62 | do yuo guy's know how to install ipod linux? |
00:11:53 | amiconn | If that works for this album, I'll let it run during the night |
00:11:59 | webguest62 | i you do can u plz help/ |
00:12:01 | scorche | webguest62: this isnt the channel for that as you have been told |
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00:12:22 | webguest62 | i know but i cant use the other channel |
00:12:25 | DerPapst | good evening :) |
00:12:35 | scorche | that doesnt mean you can violate the rules of this channel |
00:12:38 | posingaspopular | GodEater: so what do i do |
00:12:42 | Soul-Slayer | I suggest you find another IRC client, a simple java based online one would do, join the server irc.freenode.net and join #ipodlinux |
00:13:00 | GodEater | posingaspopular: I think you need to read up on using your operating system =/ |
00:13:02 | * | DerPapst suggests pjirc as web based irc client |
00:13:09 | amiconn | Iirc there are open cgi:irc sites out there |
00:13:20 | scorche | plenty |
00:13:20 | GodEater | www.ircatwork.com |
00:13:22 | GodEater | for example |
00:13:37 | webguest62 | ok thanks but can you guy's please give me a li9nk to site where i'm supposed to do that? |
00:13:45 | Soul-Slayer | He did. |
00:13:51 | webguest62 | oh thank you |
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00:13:55 | webguest62 | : ) |
00:14:50 | Soul-Slayer | amiconn: Problem with letting an H10 run through the night is the fact the battery will probably have died by then |
00:15:01 | Soul-Slayer | Unless you have it on charger, but I'm not sure how that would affect the test |
00:16:01 | GodEater | Soul-Slayer: only one way to find out ;) |
00:17:08 | posingaspopular | GodEater: the problem is that the ipod is being recognized when i do 'ls hw' and check under usb |
00:17:22 | linuxstb | posingaspopular: Try "sudo ipodpatcher" |
00:17:25 | Soul-Slayer | That's a problem? |
00:17:49 | posingaspopular | command not found |
00:17:55 | Soul-Slayer | sudo ./ipodpatcher |
00:18:35 | posingaspopular | yea it says that no ipods are found and that i should put my ipod in disk mode |
00:18:39 | posingaspopular | which it's already in |
00:18:53 | linuxstb | Which ipod do you have? |
00:18:53 | Soul-Slayer | Have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting it? |
00:19:00 | DerPapst | sudo make_me_a_sandwich |
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00:19:09 | GodEater | DerPapst: oh ok |
00:19:11 | GodEater | :) |
00:19:15 | posingaspopular | Soul-Slayer: i just did that |
00:19:22 | posingaspopular | linuxstb: 30 gig video |
00:19:29 | Soul-Slayer | DerPapst: Enter root password. |
00:19:37 | DerPapst | blubb123 |
00:19:45 | DerPapst | err ****** |
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00:19:56 | GodEater | Soul-Slayer: that's not how it works, it asks for YOUR password - not roots :) |
00:20:07 | Soul-Slayer | Truth, but I want the root password. |
00:20:13 | Soul-Slayer | :p |
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00:22:03 | posingaspopular | okay my ipod is being recognized as unmounted, removable medium |
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00:24:51 | posingaspopular | anyone? |
00:26:14 | linuxstb | Can you mount it and access the files? |
00:26:47 | linuxstb | And does your ipod work normally? i.e. when you disconnect it does the Apple firmware start? |
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00:28:35 | webguest57 | Hi i would like to know if there is a way to create my theme for rockbox? i have a 5g 30GB video ipod. |
00:28:57 | webguest57 | i already installed rockbox. |
00:29:23 | webguest57 | and i read the manual i still really dont understand it. sorry. |
00:30:18 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
00:30:27 | GodEater | webguest57: you need to read and understand that |
00:30:29 | mpeccorini | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking |
00:30:50 | mpeccorini | webguest57: this one will help too |
00:31:04 | posingaspopular | linuxstb: umm... rockbox loads perfectly |
00:31:12 | * | GodEater hadn't seen that one before |
00:31:31 | mpeccorini | godeater: is a work in progress, but it has images |
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00:31:40 | GodEater | mpeccorini: your work ? |
00:32:00 | webguest57 | hank you let me try the other link |
00:32:07 | mpeccorini | nope, I've never even seen a WPS, I work in chessbox :p |
00:32:20 | GodEater | good link anyway :) |
00:32:49 | mpeccorini | LOL, yes. "good job" for whomever did it :p |
00:32:56 | * | petur wonders how a user can say rb isn't as 'ready' on h320 as on h120? It's the same code... |
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00:33:16 | GodEater | petur: I wonder about a lot of the things our users think |
00:33:59 | Zdr | hey guys, got a question for everyone |
00:34:46 | Zdr | I have version r13926M-070718 |
00:34:54 | Zdr | it's worked for a couple days |
00:34:59 | pixelma | petur: I already answered that one... |
00:35:04 | pixelma | (I thought) |
00:35:21 | Zdr | then today, i goto to plug it into my computer |
00:35:28 | Zdr | and my pc doesnt recognize the ipod ne more |
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00:35:54 | Zdr | ipod video btw |
00:35:56 | Zdr | 80g |
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00:35:56 | GodEater | Zdr: have you rebooted into disk mode manually? |
00:35:59 | Zdr | yea |
00:36:22 | Zdr | then when i plug it in that, it reboots the ipod back and fortha couple times and shuts it off |
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00:36:39 | Zdr | the only way to turn it back on is to plug it into my wall charger |
00:36:45 | PaulJam_ | diskmode is controlled by the apple software |
00:36:47 | Zdr | still functions normally |
00:37:00 | Zdr | jsut cant get it to talk to my comp |
00:37:20 | GodEater | as PaulJam_ says, it's not running rockbox code when it's in diskmode |
00:37:25 | GodEater | so it's not a rockbox fault |
00:37:28 | Zdr | uhmm |
00:37:31 | Zdr | lemme try again |
00:37:40 | Zdr | menu and select correc |
00:37:44 | Zdr | tthen select and play |
00:37:51 | PaulJam_ | yes |
00:38:02 | Zdr | ok i'm in it now |
00:38:04 | * | petur leaves techy world for a week |
00:38:17 | linuxstb | Zdr: Or just start the main Apple firmware... |
00:38:19 | Reno666 | hi i just installed rockbox about a week ago on my ipod becuase i wanted it to be able to play mpeg movies but when they play the sound is a little bit faster than the movie can anyone please help me? |
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00:38:58 | Reno666 | i have a 30gb video ipod. |
00:39:02 | PaulJam_ | Reno666: do you have frameskip and limit framerate enabled? and is your audio 44.1 kHz? |
00:39:04 | Zdr | how can i get past the rockbox firmware without having it conencted to my computer |
00:39:08 | Reno666 | yup |
00:39:41 | Reno666 | it's still slow and i already tried the elephants dream movie too |
00:39:43 | GodEater | Reno666: the ipod video essentially sucks at video playback in rockbox, it's much better under the apple firmware |
00:39:45 | PaulJam_ | Reno666: does the video play ok on your PC? |
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00:40:13 | Reno666 | yea hi play perfectly on my pc |
00:40:27 | GodEater | Zdr: if you've put it into diskmode, then you've "got past" the rockbox firmware already |
00:40:45 | Zdr | can i boot into apples default junk from there? |
00:40:56 | Zdr | or is there not a way to switch it on the fly |
00:41:09 | linuxstb | Reno666: I expect mpegplayer simply can't keep up with playing the video at full speed. Try encoding at a lower framerate/resolution/bitrate. |
00:41:11 | GodEater | Zdr: yes, just reset again (Menu+Select), and then immediatle flick the hold switch to on |
00:41:35 | GodEater | Zdr: that will cause the rockbox bootloader to load apple's firmware |
00:41:46 | Reno666 | i got another question when i play music i want to know how i can display the album work u know like the photo. |
00:41:51 | Zdr | hmm k |
00:42:08 | GodEater | Reno666: That's not an official rockbox feature - you'd have to ask the author of a build which supports it |
00:42:22 | Reno666 | oh |
00:42:24 | Reno666 | ok |
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00:42:52 | GodEater | Reno666: although with any luck it WILL be an official feature in the next couple of months |
00:43:14 | Reno666 | and i 'm geussing i would have to do the sae thing for rockoy like in the mpeg player right? i have the same problem. |
00:43:35 | GodEater | I don't understand the question |
00:44:02 | Reno666 | i have the same problem with the sound when i play gameboy roms |
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00:44:16 | GodEater | I doubt there's anything you can do about that |
00:44:23 | GodEater | other than buy a faster DAP |
00:44:37 | PaulJam_ | or optimize the code... |
00:44:41 | bordy | hey gents, I Am evidently havin a tough time downloading the ipodpatcher... keeps telling me its a binary and will screw me up. And its just a bunch of symbols inside of konqueror. Any tips? |
00:44:42 | Reno666 | ...uuuuhhh......what is that? |
00:44:47 | Reno666 | DAP??? |
00:44:56 | markun | digital audio player |
00:44:57 | GodEater | bordy: right click the link, save as |
00:45:05 | Reno666 | oh |
00:45:10 | bordy | Thanks GodEater |
00:45:25 | GodEater | sounds like the download servers aren't sending the right mime type |
00:45:30 | GodEater | which is a bit peculiar |
00:47:04 | GodEater | bordy: can I ask where you heard about rockbox from ? |
00:47:13 | Reno666 | i have one final question. i dont know if its a rockbox question or not but here it goes: i just heard about ipod linux but for some reason i can't install it on my ipod beacause it says no ipod or device whatever found. can i use the rockbox bootloader to instal ipod linux? |
00:47:35 | scorche | the bootloader doesnt install anything |
00:47:43 | Zdr | ok so what could i have possibly done to this ipod that would have prevented it from connecting to the computer |
00:47:47 | Reno666 | the uuuhhm what is it? |
00:47:57 | scorche | it loads on boot.. |
00:48:02 | Reno666 | oh |
00:48:04 | Reno666 | lol |
00:48:09 | Zdr | it has been in my house, sitting by its lonesome, was it becuase he wasnt near his friend, my shuffle? |
00:48:27 | linuxstb | GodEater: I remember Bagder (or someone) fixing that for the main download server - I guess it's not setup on the mirrors... |
00:48:50 | Zdr | *Mr. Shuffle |
00:49:01 | GodEater | guess we'll need to check on that then |
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00:49:11 | bordy | GodEater: friend of mine told m,e to check it out |
00:49:20 | Reno666 | so...the bootloader loads rockbox on my ipod??? i'm confused..... |
00:49:25 | Reno666 | sorry.... |
00:50:08 | Soul-Slayer | The bootloader sets up the DAP for usage with rockbo |
00:50:11 | scorche | it will also load rockbox, but you will have an easier time using their loader |
00:50:18 | Soul-Slayer | And loads the firmware itself |
00:50:36 | scorche | errr...it will also load ipl... |
00:51:02 | Soul-Slayer | He was talking about the rockbox bootloader though was he not? |
00:51:12 | scorche | yes, which will also load ipl.. |
00:51:18 | GodEater | sort of |
00:51:19 | Soul-Slayer | Oh, hawt. |
00:51:30 | scorche | hold play while booting |
00:51:34 | GodEater | it's pretty basic compared to their loader though |
00:51:59 | Reno666 | oh yeah but the problem is i cant instal their loader on my ipod beacause their loader is lame and it wont find my ipod. i've never had a hard time with rockbox but ipodlinux is really giving me a hard time. |
00:52:17 | linuxstb | Installing the bootloader is trivial compared to installing the rest of IPL manually though... |
00:52:18 | scorche | then go to them and whine about it and see if they have suggestions... |
00:52:20 | GodEater | Reno666: this isn't an ipodlinux support channel though |
00:52:37 | Reno666 | i know sorry |
00:52:47 | Reno666 | their channel doesnt work either |
00:52:54 | scorche | it works just fine |
00:52:55 | GodEater | yes it does |
00:52:55 | Reno666 | alteast not for me |
00:52:55 | scorche | i am in it |
00:53:15 | Reno666 | are you using firefox? |
00:53:22 | Reno666 | i am |
00:53:28 | GodEater | Reno666: use a proper IRC client |
00:53:31 | GodEater | not a web browser |
00:53:36 | tohtorijep | is digital audio player the mp3-player you buy on a store or is it the player inside the player and you can change it? i'm confused: O |
00:53:37 | scorche | where are you accessing this channel from? |
00:53:53 | GodEater | tohtorijep: it's the collective name for all players you can buy |
00:54:00 | Reno666 | it says firefox cannot load the page or something about protocal or i diont know? |
00:54:03 | GodEater | tohtorijep: like ipod, gigabeat, iriver |
00:54:07 | scorche | tohtorijep: DAP is the proper term for what many would call "an mp3 player" |
00:54:08 | tohtorijep | aaah okay |
00:54:13 | Zdr | man |
00:54:17 | Zdr | f Apple |
00:54:20 | scorche | Reno666: then get a proper irc client like we said |
00:54:20 | GodEater | Reno666: AGAIN - USE A PROPER IRC CLIENT |
00:54:23 | Zdr | and their lame players |
00:54:35 | Soul-Slayer | Zdr: And their huge market share |
00:54:37 | * | scorche escorts Zdr off of the soapbox |
00:54:39 | Zdr | lol |
00:54:42 | tohtorijep | okay so i cant do anything for that short battery life which comes with rockbox |
00:54:43 | Soul-Slayer | Which they must have earnt somehow |
00:55:05 | Zdr | ok so my real question, which is why i tried rockbox |
00:55:09 | GodEater | tohtorijep: other than buy something which doesn't have a portalplayer in it |
00:55:12 | scorche | tohtorijep: you can figure out what we need to do to correct that, make a patch, then submit it |
00:55:17 | Zdr | why cant i get the plaer to sort by directories |
00:55:20 | Zdr | and show the folders |
00:55:20 | tohtorijep | i thought DAP was the DIGITAL audio player inside the physical or something like that :D |
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00:55:30 | scorche | Zdr: see the manual |
00:55:34 | Zdr | not the individual artist? |
00:55:40 | Zdr | i read through it 50 times |
00:55:45 | Reno666 | a proper irc client? sorry i just know what irc stands for but thats about it i dont know anything about a irc client. |
00:55:47 | Zdr | they is a directory sort |
00:55:48 | scorche | oh....it just shows what is on the disk |
00:55:48 | Zdr | yes |
00:55:56 | scorche | there is no directory sort |
00:55:56 | GodEater | Reno666: install XChat |
00:56:01 | | Part bordy |
00:56:05 | Zdr | kinda |
00:56:08 | scorche | Reno666: or use ircatwork.com |
00:56:16 | tohtorijep | scorche, I bet there isnt any else solution than take some features away |
00:56:28 | Reno666 | where can i find that? should i search on google? |
00:56:28 | scorche | tohtorijep: taking features away wont do it |
00:56:31 | GodEater | tohtorijep: I'd bet against you |
00:56:33 | tohtorijep | and that is what rockbox user dont want |
00:56:34 | * | mpeccorini uses HidraIRC and loves it |
00:56:41 | GodEater | Reno666: google's a good place to start |
00:56:44 | tohtorijep | okay :p |
00:56:47 | scorche | http://ircatwork.com/ |
00:56:48 | GodEater | Reno666: are you running windows ? |
00:56:49 | tohtorijep | i hope so too :) |
00:57:20 | Zdr | are any of you guys rockbox developers? |
00:57:33 | scorche | there are plenty of devs in here.. |
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00:58:04 | Zdr | has a directory view been something you guys have been working on? |
00:58:04 | Reno666 | i already use ircatwork yesterday thanks to my friend but i dont even know how to use that. i'm not good at computers or any of this stuff i was able to install rockbox thanks to the manual thats it. |
00:58:15 | Reno666 | i had tio read it about 20 time though |
00:58:17 | Soul-Slayer | Zdr: Please explain what you mean by Directory View |
00:58:20 | Zdr | ok |
00:58:41 | scorche | Reno666: type Reno666 in the first area, irc.freenode.net in the second, #ipodlinux in the third |
00:58:43 | Zdr | so when i goto my music on my comp, I see Music/artist/album/tracks |
00:58:53 | Zdr | thats how i have my music catalouge organized |
00:58:54 | Soul-Slayer | You sure do. |
00:58:59 | Soul-Slayer | You mean the database? |
00:59:12 | Soul-Slayer | Settings -> General -> Database -> Initialise Now |
00:59:17 | Zdr | c:music/artistname/album/song.mp3 |
00:59:18 | Soul-Slayer | Then you can use the database from the main menu |
00:59:22 | Soul-Slayer | Ah right |
00:59:26 | scorche | Soul-Slayer: he isnt talking about that |
00:59:30 | Soul-Slayer | Just copy it onto your 'pod like that then. |
00:59:33 | Zdr | i did... |
00:59:37 | Soul-Slayer | And use the File Tree |
00:59:49 | Zdr | wheres file tree option? |
00:59:54 | Soul-Slayer | Main menu -> Files |
01:00 |
01:00:00 | scorche | Zdr: browse files |
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01:00:15 | Zdr | i just have calender, notes |
01:00:26 | scorche | that IS the file browser |
01:00:37 | Soul-Slayer | Where did you copy the songs to? |
01:00:40 | scorche | those are folders the original firmware puts on the device |
01:00:52 | Soul-Slayer | You need to drag and drop them in Disk Mode onto your ipod in the format you'd like |
01:00:59 | Zdr | so I could just copy directly onto the devise my music library? |
01:01:04 | scorche | yes |
01:01:06 | Zdr | ahhhhhh |
01:01:09 | Zdr | w00t |
01:01:24 | Soul-Slayer | itunes begone. |
01:01:25 | Zdr | well, now i just need to figure out why it wont conecct to my computer |
01:01:31 | Soul-Slayer | Yes, that would help |
01:01:34 | scorche | Zdr: are you using itunes? |
01:01:39 | Reno666 | ok i have xchat install now how can i connect to the ipodlinux channel please? |
01:01:42 | Zdr | that and winamp |
01:01:46 | Zdr | but i see the light now |
01:01:48 | scorche | Reno666: read xchat's help |
01:01:49 | Zdr | itunes is evil |
01:02:03 | Reno666 | ok thanks |
01:02:07 | Reno666 | : ) |
01:02:16 | Soul-Slayer | Proprietary software in general is evil imo |
01:02:26 | scorche | stop going on about that... |
01:02:31 | Soul-Slayer | Alright. |
01:02:31 | Zdr | lol |
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01:02:53 | scorche | Zdr: there is an option you have to check in itunes that will allow you to access the device as a disk...google for that option |
01:02:55 | Zdr | is there a key combination on the ipod i can use to delete everything on it? without being connect to the computer |
01:03:08 | Soul-Slayer | Zdr: No, that would be horrible, lol |
01:03:15 | Soul-Slayer | Imagine doing it accidentally |
01:03:27 | GodEater | Soul-Slayer: you can do it in rockbox.... |
01:03:29 | scorche | Zdr: you will connect it to the computer anyway, so might as well get it over with now |
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01:03:50 | Zdr | well i've had it work the past couple days and this morning when i woke up it's like, F you john, no music syncing today |
01:03:53 | scorche | it isnt a key combination, but rockbox has a delete feature |
01:04:31 | scorche | Zdr: as i said..look for that option and check/uncheck it |
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01:04:51 | Zdr | in itunes? |
01:04:55 | scorche | yes |
01:05:23 | Reno666 | ok i only have about 15 minutes left then i have to leave can any help me please. PLEASE HELP?? : ) all i want to know is how i can connect to the ipl channel??? |
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01:05:31 | Zdr | how can i get to that step if XP wont even recognize it |
01:05:33 | scorche | Reno666: this is not an irc help channel |
01:05:34 | Zdr | it sees my shuffle |
01:05:38 | Zdr | just not this thing |
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01:06:06 | scorche | Zdr: what does the display on your ipod show when plugged in? |
01:06:22 | Zdr | ok so the home screen |
01:06:27 | Zdr | when i connect it to the computer |
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01:06:32 | Zdr | the screen backs out |
01:06:44 | Zdr | and u can see scan lines going across the text |
01:06:45 | Reno666 | can you just please help me with that? just this once and i promise i wont comeback within about 30 days or something? PLEASE???? : ) |
01:06:48 | scorche | i dont knwo what backs out mean....tell me what the device shows |
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01:06:54 | Zdr | *blacks |
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01:07:26 | Zdr | so black out, then scan lines, then nothing |
01:07:31 | Zdr | no button response |
01:07:36 | GodEater | Reno666: No. Go read a tutorial |
01:07:54 | Zdr | i have to plug it into AC wallcharger and that 'resets' it |
01:08:12 | scorche | Zdr: then it sounds liek something is wrong with your device from what you are describing |
01:08:17 | Zdr | yea |
01:08:24 | Zdr | atleast the cable |
01:08:32 | scorche | no...the device should never do that |
01:08:37 | Zdr | but i cant imagine what and I fear taking it to the apple store |
01:08:40 | Zdr | bunch of savages |
01:09:04 | Zdr | they'll charge me some rediculous amount |
01:09:05 | scorche | if something was wrong with the cable it just wouldnt work right...not produce those kind of effects ont he device |
01:09:17 | Zdr | yea |
01:09:19 | scorche | if you take it into a store, they will typically look at it for free |
01:09:28 | Zdr | hrmmm |
01:10:11 | scorche | Reno666: sorry for not explaining this before, but you are muted...we cannot hear you...this will last for 10 min, so i would suggest that you use that time to read the guidelines or do whatever you will |
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01:14:21 | tohtorijep | is iriver a good dap? i was very close to buy one but then nano camed |
01:14:31 | scorche | "good" is very subjective... |
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01:14:40 | tohtorijep | ofcourse |
01:14:47 | GodEater | tohtorijep: and depends on whcih iriver |
01:14:52 | tohtorijep | it just would be nice to hear some experiences |
01:14:52 | GodEater | they make a lot of different DAPS |
01:15:06 | GodEater | I personally value my H140 over every other DAP I own |
01:15:14 | GodEater | so in my opinion that makes it "good" |
01:15:26 | tohtorijep | wow you have many daps |
01:15:36 | scorche | many people here do |
01:15:38 | GodEater | I do |
01:15:43 | GodEater | not as many as amiconn |
01:15:44 | tohtorijep | was it h140 which i was close to buy... hard to remember |
01:15:44 | GodEater | :) |
01:16:02 | GodEater | who holds the record for rockboxable targets ?# |
01:16:10 | * | GodEater only owns 3 |
01:16:51 | GodEater | and having seen and got to play with a sansa today, I can firmly state I'm not going to bother buying one. It's bloody horrible. |
01:17:32 | * | scorche throws all the soapboxes into the closet and shuts the door |
01:18:07 | * | GodEater picks himself up off the floor where he fell |
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01:23:51 | GodEater | I should probably get on with that favourites plugin |
01:25:55 | saratoga | GodEater: what was your complaint about the sansa? |
01:26:05 | saratoga | i've found myself using it over the ipod and gigabeat lately |
01:27:39 | GodEater | I don't like how the wheel protrudes up over the buttons |
01:27:46 | GodEater | I find it makes it hard to press them |
01:28:04 | GodEater | I have fat fingers though, so accept it might not bother everyone ;) |
01:28:30 | saratoga | is there a performance hit to using floats in rockbox if I don't actually add or multiply them? |
01:28:59 | saratoga | i've got a block of code here that depends on being able to parse out the exponents and mantissa of IEEE floats |
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01:42:12 | pere__ | umm, hello, how do i create a wiki page? |
01:42:52 | scorche | type in the name of the wikipage you want to create (properly formatted LikeThis) and it will say that that page doesnt exist and will give you an option to create it |
01:44:16 | pere__ | scorche, ook, thanks |
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01:46:02 | pere__ | is COBYInfo wrongly formated ? because the brand is capitalized |
01:46:31 | scorche | what is the full name of the device? |
01:47:30 | pere__ | COBY MPC7085 |
01:47:35 | pere__ | all capitalized |
01:47:46 | scorche | just name it CobyInfo |
01:47:57 | pere__ | thought so |
01:48:12 | scorche | and then you can make a note in the first sentence about the real name being capitalized, etc |
01:48:56 | scorche | also, if you do CobyInfo, have you info under a section that says MPC7085, as coby makes more than one device |
01:49:21 | pere__ | change topic? whats that? |
01:49:46 | scorche | huh? |
01:50:05 | scorche | where are you seeing that? |
01:50:07 | pere__ | creating page... TWiki . Main . CobyInfo (edit) |
01:50:07 | pere__ | Change topic |
01:50:24 | pere__ | and a text scuare for editing |
01:50:27 | scorche | dont worry about that |
01:50:34 | scorche | just the text square |
01:50:59 | pere__ | but do i change anything at all? |
01:51:16 | scorche | if you dont knwo how the wiki formatting works, i would suggest you read a few links first...it si really quite simple though and the list at the bottom of the edit page should be enough |
01:51:21 | scorche | change anything with what? |
01:51:42 | scorche | just write in the text box and dont worry about the change topic link |
01:52:00 | pere__ | nothing, just selected add, > none > and now just the blank page :) |
01:54:40 | pere__ | ook, so %TOC% makes a table of contents of every −−++ title, right? |
01:55:14 | scorche | yes |
01:56:01 | tohtorijep | http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/iriver-clix-8gb-second/4505-6490_7-32425795.html?tag=also |
01:56:07 | tohtorijep | that looks really good |
01:56:35 | scorche | tohtorijep: please dont be offtopic in this channel... |
01:57:03 | tohtorijep | sry |
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02:07:02 | pere__ | hehe, i cant seem to find the processor :p |
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02:09:17 | BigMac | Still not able to do anything in the xgl session |
02:09:41 | pere__ | BigMac, do you mean in linux? |
02:10:20 | BigMac | pere__: Are you being condescending or serious? |
02:10:41 | pere__ | serius... i mean, you did say xgl |
02:10:54 | BigMac | Yes the xgl session does not work |
02:11:01 | BigMac | It lags atrociously |
02:11:05 | BigMac | but gnome works |
02:11:06 | pere__ | but i think thats offtopic |
02:11:45 | BigMac | crdlb left? |
02:12:53 | scorche | it is offtopic... |
02:12:59 | BigMac | OH wooow |
02:13:12 | BigMac | I didn't realize what channel I was in |
02:13:19 | BigMac | I apologize |
02:14:34 | pere__ | :P its ok, happens |
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02:18:21 | pere__ | scorche, i got this ALi chip, but search only returns 3 dead players pages, you think its an mpx? |
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02:25:11 | tohtorijep | weird.. now this says "No file!" when i try to play songs in my pod |
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02:27:22 | pere__ | tohtorijep: using tag cache? |
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02:30:30 | tohtorijep | nope |
02:31:03 | tohtorijep | how can i uninstall rockbox? i already removed folder .rockbox but it wasnt enough |
02:32:21 | krazykit | that's strange. my gigabeat loses the time once in awhile, despite the battery being full. i can't reproduce the problem, though. |
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02:37:30 | pere__ | krazykit: i get the same, i see in the wps the dat and time like ", :P" |
02:37:45 | tohtorijep | how can i remove the bootloader? |
02:38:13 | pere__ | tohtorijep: why would yo want to do that? |
02:38:42 | tohtorijep | because i already removed .rockbox/ |
02:38:47 | tohtorijep | and i want to reinstall it |
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02:39:43 | pere__ | tohtorijep: ok so, the thing to do is to remove the rockbox FWMINGsomething 01 and puting the original one that you should have saved |
02:40:03 | krazykit | pere__, but setting it fixes it, right? you're not just using a broken theme? |
02:40:06 | pere__ | scorche: how do i make anchor work? |
02:40:23 | scorche | hrm? |
02:40:27 | pere__ | krazykit: thats right |
02:40:53 | pere__ | krazykit: one I inputed the time and date and the next time i power the time is gone |
02:41:07 | pere__ | the tima and date are gone |
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02:42:08 | pere__ | scorche: never mind |
02:42:10 | tohtorijep | "loading rockbox... Error! Cant load rockbox.ipod: File not found. Hold menu+select to reboot then select+play for disk mode" |
02:42:11 | krazykit | i wish i could reproduce the problem though. the best i can do is reproduce the conditions: letting the player shut itself off after playing a song. |
02:42:21 | tohtorijep | it says this when i removed the .rockbox/ directory |
02:42:31 | tohtorijep | so i want to remove the bootloader |
02:42:35 | scorche | tohtorijep: well, that is what it is saying... |
02:42:43 | scorche | are you trying to uninstall rockbox? |
02:42:50 | tohtorijep | yes |
02:43:08 | tohtorijep | i want to reinstall it |
02:43:16 | scorche | re-install rockbox? |
02:43:32 | tohtorijep | yes |
02:43:58 | scorche | then just do as the screen says and put a new .rockbox folder on |
02:44:23 | pere__ | lol, tohtorijep : just erase .rockbox, download newest one, and place it like the older one |
02:44:46 | tohtorijep | ok but i want to reinstall the bootloader too |
02:44:53 | pere__ | in other words, replace .rockbox |
02:45:07 | scorche | tohtorijep: then just repeat the process in the manual |
02:45:13 | tohtorijep | okay |
02:46:04 | pere__ | hehe I forgot this was not the gigabeat channel :p |
02:46:11 | tohtorijep | i used the svn |
02:46:20 | tohtorijep | so its not surprise that it doesnt work |
02:47:06 | krazykit | more of a suprise that it didn't work, really. |
02:48:11 | tohtorijep | 03:27 < pere__> tohtorijep: using tag cache? |
02:48:13 | tohtorijep | shoud i use it? |
02:48:14 | pere__ | svn are more likely to have errors than the rockbox.org |
02:48:27 | scorche | pere__: ...huh? |
02:48:34 | pere__ | tohtorijep: no, but i think you are usingit |
02:48:56 | tohtorijep | okay i check it |
02:49:49 | pere__ | scorche: i use tag cache, and i cache my files, but when i erase a file, and tag cache hasnt updated it turns "File not found" and such |
02:50:10 | scorche | i was referring to the comment directly above mine |
02:50:17 | pere__ | oh |
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02:50:40 | pere__ | svn is updated more than what rockbox.org anounces |
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02:50:53 | scorche | no it isnt... |
02:50:57 | pere__ | no? |
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02:51:16 | scorche | not about the actual rockbox builds |
02:51:20 | pere__ | i mean, rockbox its built every X seconds |
02:51:34 | scorche | no...rockbox is built on each commit |
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02:51:43 | pere__ | oh |
02:51:50 | pere__ | didnt knew :) |
02:52:13 | saratoga | when we send in a commit, theres actually a script that runs and updates everything, if you look just then you can see it running on the builds page |
02:52:36 | pere__ | hmm |
02:53:09 | saratoga | yaaahhhh i can decode 8 kbps WMA files |
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02:53:15 | saratoga | so closed to finished |
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02:55:20 | aliask | Who would encode at 8kbps :P |
02:55:32 | aliask | Is it intelligible? |
02:56:44 | pixelma | that's for the true BoS sound :P |
02:56:49 | pere__ | I would if i had to put music in a diskette....i actualy did years ago |
02:59:16 | saratoga | i only encoded a square wave |
02:59:28 | saratoga | theres some harmonic distortion, but it sounds more or less the same |
02:59:55 | pere__ | hmm im still unable to know wether the ali is the cpu... or something else |
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03:02:01 | pixelma | the Iaudio X5 has an ALi chip - for USB otg - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IaudioX5HardwareComponents#ALi_M5636_Hi_Speed_USB_2_0_OTG_P |
03:02:09 | tohtorijep | pere__, should i always make "Update now" in settings - database when i have removed and added new files |
03:02:29 | tohtorijep | if i use id3tag cache |
03:02:37 | pere__ | tohtorijep: i don't know, let me see my device |
03:02:49 | tohtorijep | what you do when it says "File not found" |
03:03:14 | pere__ | tohtorijep: you should update |
03:03:29 | tohtorijep | yeah good... |
03:03:48 | pere__ | well, then i remember if i did deleted, if not, just try again, probably the hard drive didnt see the file (i guess?) |
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03:04:11 | krylon | how can i set up so rockbox randomly chooses a song from a random directory |
03:04:12 | tohtorijep | hmm |
03:05:16 | scorche | krylon: make a playlist of everything on your device and turn on shuffle |
03:05:31 | pere__ | krylon: or just ramdomly push all buttons xd just kidding |
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03:15:12 | krylon | scorche whats the easiest way to do that |
03:15:36 | scorche | do you have a music folder tht you put everything in? |
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03:18:19 | saratoga | i'm listening to an 8kbps wma |
03:18:23 | saratoga | it sounds almost like midi |
03:19:12 | pere__ | saratoga: hahaha |
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03:19:27 | saratoga | hmm maybe thats my decoder, the MS one sounds a lot better |
03:19:31 | saratoga | oh well, i'm going to bed |
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04:12:10 | Davide-NYC | quick question: if I use a 4.5V DC-DC car charger for my H120 will I cause any damage to it? The wall adapter is rated for 5V. (sorry if this is a stupid question) |
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04:13:47 | kkurbjun | I am trying to figure out an appropriate header for a file in rockboy that is a rewite of the C++ code from VisualBoyAdvance (GPL) by myself, but also includes some of the original GNU boy code which did not have a copywrite assignment (licensed under the GPL though) or headers on the file. |
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04:15:44 | kkurbjun | does something like this look appropriate? http://pastebin.com/m2c95ed4 |
04:16:48 | XavierGr | Davide-NYC: it will most probably work |
04:16:57 | XavierGr | check the polarity and the amperage |
04:17:04 | XavierGr | you want more than 500 mah |
04:17:34 | kkurbjun | XavierGr, I have a new version of that rockboy soundpatch that changes quite a bit more, would you be able to test it on an H300? |
04:18:25 | XavierGr | yes of course |
04:18:51 | kkurbjun | ok, let me upload the newest version here |
04:19:35 | XavierGr | what is the improvement? |
04:20:10 | kkurbjun | it sounds more accurate on my gigabeat, it uses less memory as it removes some large lookup tables |
04:20:31 | kkurbjun | at least to my ears |
04:20:33 | XavierGr | so it may be faster? |
04:21:05 | kkurbjun | it's possible, I don't notice a difference on the gigabeat, but I am curious on the coldfire processors |
04:21:15 | kkurbjun | it definately leaves more room in iram though |
04:21:27 | kkurbjun | so it may be possible to optimize it better |
04:21:38 | Davide-NYC | XavierGr: how did the rtc-mod go? |
04:21:46 | XavierGr | Got it working in the end! |
04:21:51 | Davide-NYC | awesome! |
04:21:52 | XavierGr | I am a happy man now :D |
04:22:11 | XavierGr | The chip wasn't damaged by the reverse installation |
04:22:35 | XavierGr | so I tried it again installing it on the right side and it works |
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04:22:59 | XavierGr | Well I am grateful to bluebrother that sent me his spare DS3231c rtc chip |
04:23:12 | mbishop | If a theme says "Any recent daily build" as a requirement, would a current build most likely be good enough? |
04:23:13 | XavierGr | next I am going to try the USB charge mod on my H115 |
04:23:26 | XavierGr | though it seems very very difficult |
04:23:38 | XavierGr | the pins on the BQ chip are tiny |
04:27:46 | kkurbjun | XavierGr, I just uploaded the latest version of the patch |
04:28:38 | XavierGr | ok I will try to test it now, but I will do an extensive test tomorrow |
04:28:45 | XavierGr | 5.30 am here :P |
04:29:42 | kkurbjun | ouch, if you can just give me an initial comment that would be fine, I just want to make sure it doens't sound horrible or anything as SVN current does |
04:30:07 | kkurbjun | once I have that I am just going to commit it unless it's really bad |
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04:32:29 | XavierGr | hmm on where should I apply it? i tried with various -p and it won't patch :\ |
04:32:34 | kkurbjun | it' |
04:32:43 | kkurbjun | in the rockboy directory |
04:32:50 | kkurbjun | apps/plugins/rockboy |
04:32:59 | krylon | scorche i put all my mp3s in root |
04:33:06 | krylon | in album folders |
04:33:11 | kkurbjun | sorry about that I wanted a quick patch that I didn't have to rip out all the other stuff I have |
04:33:34 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: are you on windows? |
04:33:46 | kkurbjun | yes |
04:33:50 | kkurbjun | cygwin |
04:34:19 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Looking at your header, if it was me, I wouldn't put my own name as the main copyright holder - I would leave the original names there, and probably not even bother putting mine at all. Ot maybe say something like "Converted from C++ to plain C by [my name] [date] |
04:34:25 | kkurbjun | if you copy the file to the rockboy dir and try and apply the patch it should work |
04:34:38 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: yeah it worked |
04:35:09 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, ok, sounds good, otherwise it looks ok though? |
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04:37:35 | Davide-NYC | XavierGr: Good luck with the USB charging mod. While you're at it, maybe you can figure out a good place to mount a serial port! ;-) |
04:38:45 | kkurbjun | linuxstb, hows this? http://pastebin.com/m428a17d3 |
04:38:48 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: How much is your work, and how much is other people's? If it is mostly other people's, then you should probably keep the original header, rather than add a Rockbox one. |
04:39:08 | kkurbjun | it doesn't look much like either code anymore |
04:39:24 | kkurbjun | there wasn't a header originally |
04:39:35 | XavierGr | Davide-NYC: what will be the gain from a serial port? |
04:39:47 | kkurbjun | and I didnt' think that the visualboy header was appropriate as it's not entirely their code |
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04:40:15 | kkurbjun | actually if I had to take a gues sI would figure that they used rockboy as a base for their initial code |
04:40:30 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: I think that as long as you mention the original authors, and that the original code was also GPL'd, then it's fine. |
04:41:01 | linuxstb | They based it on rockboy? Or do you mean gnuboy? |
04:41:07 | kkurbjun | sorry, gnuboy |
04:41:13 | kkurbjun | I mixed them up |
04:41:37 | kkurbjun | the code flow and design looks very similar |
04:42:14 | Davide-NYC | XavierGr: the possibility (in the future) to control the player from another unit (namely the sony car stereos that support unilink) |
04:42:19 | linuxstb | Your new header looks fine to me. |
04:42:32 | kkurbjun | great, I'll use that then |
04:43:04 | linuxstb | If you want a second opinion, Bagder may offer one. |
04:43:33 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: testing now |
04:44:34 | kkurbjun | I am pretty comfortable with the header I just wanted to make sure that I did it in a way that gave proper credit and was not perceived to step on anyones toes which I think that header does. I appreciate the feedback |
04:45:12 | kkurbjun | XavierGr, great, let me know how it goes |
04:48:35 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: 2-3 fps faster from svn and of course sound is much better |
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04:48:52 | XavierGr | though I don't remember the previous patch to compare those 2 |
04:48:53 | BHSPitMonkey | kkurbjun, where do I know your nick from? |
04:49:02 | kkurbjun | great, I'll commit it |
04:49:03 | XavierGr | the previous patch had good sound too |
04:49:14 | kkurbjun | I am on misticriver also |
04:49:16 | BHSPitMonkey | maybe just from in here, long ago... |
04:49:31 | kkurbjun | yes, I did the original work on the doom port |
04:49:34 | XavierGr | BHSPitMonkey: He is the "doom guy" :D |
04:49:40 | kkurbjun | :) |
04:49:43 | BHSPitMonkey | XavierGr, yeah, that does ring bells |
04:49:51 | BHSPitMonkey | I remember when that was going on |
04:49:54 | BHSPitMonkey | anyway. |
04:50:07 | BHSPitMonkey | Any of you heard of / seen / used an Insignia mp3 player? |
04:50:56 | BHSPitMonkey | Gotta say, they're pretty nicely-done little flash-based dap's |
04:52:11 | andrew__1 | I think I have heard of them |
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04:53:25 | kkurbjun | XavierGr, thanks for testing that, sorry to keep you up |
04:53:43 | BHSPitMonkey | andrewg867, I think best buy pushed them |
04:53:45 | BHSPitMonkey | not sure |
04:53:58 | andrewg867 | we don't have Best Buy here ;) |
04:54:28 | andrewg867 | I may have heard of them from walmart or futureshop, mose likely futureshop |
04:54:30 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: I just tested with the privous patch |
04:54:37 | BHSPitMonkey | I know it has a tie-in with best buy's online music store, but it's not really a tie-in... the manual talks about it some, it comes on a CD, etc |
04:54:48 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: 1-2 fps faster and sound does indeed sounds better |
04:55:01 | tohtorijep | pls dont hilight |
04:55:02 | kkurbjun | the latest patch is faster? |
04:55:05 | tohtorijep | :D |
04:55:17 | kkurbjun | or the old one? |
04:55:30 | XavierGr | the latest |
04:55:35 | andrewg867 | maybe it wasn't an mp3 player |
04:55:36 | andrewg867 | http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10073512&catid=10546 |
04:55:47 | BHSPitMonkey | but the player itself is pretty unbounded; you just throw media files on its filesystem however you like, via USB mass storage, and it rebuilds a tag-browsing db internally |
04:56:30 | BHSPitMonkey | and it plays ogg/vorbis, in addition to a bunch of proprietaries. and video, too. |
04:56:43 | andrewg867 | oh wow |
04:56:57 | BHSPitMonkey | and it's got a second headphone jack, which can either be used for a second listener or for recording |
04:57:10 | XavierGr | still though poor H300 needs much more processing power to reach the playing level of Gigabeat |
04:57:34 | XavierGr | H300 has better button layout, gigabeat runs realtime, I guess you can't have them all :\ |
04:57:44 | andrewg867 | do you know what processor it has? |
04:57:55 | kkurbjun | :), the gigabeat isn't too bad with the rotated screen |
04:58:23 | BHSPitMonkey | andrewg867, http://insignia-products.com/pc-226-22-insignia-4gb-mp3-player-black.aspx |
04:58:24 | XavierGr | theoritically it can even do diagonals |
04:58:31 | BHSPitMonkey | they also have a version with bluetooth, for bt headphones |
04:58:38 | XavierGr | but you must have the hands of ET to manage to push 2 way directions |
04:58:53 | kkurbjun | haha, true |
04:59:01 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: do you think that sound could be realtime on coldfire if somehow you disable graphics drawing? |
04:59:18 | XavierGr | in order to listen how it will sound on coldfire at full speed |
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05:00:03 | kkurbjun | you might be able to get proper sound on dr mario or something like that |
05:00:28 | kkurbjun | the problem is that the cpu emulation code is just too slow as it is on the coldfire |
05:00:39 | kkurbjun | even without drawing it's too slow |
05:01:49 | XavierGr | too bad... |
05:02:07 | XavierGr | I guess then we will never see realtime rockboy on coldfire |
05:02:33 | kkurbjun | If someone works on it it's possible |
05:02:55 | XavierGr | is there lots of room for optimization? |
05:03:31 | kkurbjun | yes, it could be improved significantly, it's just extremely timeconsuming work |
05:03:56 | kkurbjun | I wanted to profile the code a while ago, but I never could get the builtin profiler working |
05:04:20 | kkurbjun | that could give some great clues on possible simpler areas to focus on first |
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05:05:02 | XavierGr | indeed, I hope I could help with it, but I don't even have a clue on optimizing things |
05:05:21 | Kashmir | how do you get more music onto an ipod w/o installing itunes? |
05:05:32 | XavierGr | Kashmir: with rockbox installed? |
05:05:46 | Kashmir | yep |
05:05:54 | XavierGr | you just drag and drop your music on your ipod on any folder you like |
05:06:09 | Kashmir | ok |
05:06:28 | XavierGr | think of how you would add some files in you USB stick |
05:06:44 | XavierGr | ^your |
05:06:48 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah... you'll probably want to organize it in some way you prefer |
05:07:01 | Kashmir | lol yea |
05:07:05 | BHSPitMonkey | like, have a Music directory, containing directories for artists, etc |
05:07:05 | Kashmir | thx |
05:07:11 | BHSPitMonkey | don't lol me |
05:07:19 | BHSPitMonkey | that was clearly necessary of me to tell you |
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05:07:35 | BHSPitMonkey | very elusive information |
05:07:53 | Kashmir | sry sir, don't hurt me |
05:08:00 | BHSPitMonkey | no promises. |
05:08:41 | Kashmir | and how do you get album art working? |
05:09:33 | XavierGr | you have to know how to apply patches and compile the source |
05:09:46 | XavierGr | look the rockbox wiki page for more info |
05:09:49 | Kashmir | ok |
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05:33:25 | d4rkmonkey | Hey, can someone just tell me how to put music onto my 30GB iPod Video with rockbox? |
05:36:45 | d4rkmonkey | ???????? |
05:39:55 | BHSPitMonkey | d4rkmonkey, just throw it on there. |
05:40:06 | BHSPitMonkey | Organize it in directories however you see fit. |
05:40:20 | d4rkmonkey | So it doesn't matter where I put it? |
05:40:40 | BHSPitMonkey | nope |
05:40:48 | BHSPitMonkey | Well, it has to be on the iPod's hard drive. |
05:40:58 | BHSPitMonkey | That helps, you know. |
05:41:13 | d4rkmonkey | lol |
05:41:23 | d4rkmonkey | Thanks BHSPitMonkey :) thats what I thought but I wanted to make sure |
05:41:53 | BHSPitMonkey | d4rkmonkey, no problem, but next time feel free to omit the "????????????" |
05:42:26 | d4rkmonkey | lol Was hoping that for some weird reason that would make someone come faster |
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08:20:02 | Snake | Are there any suggestions to speed up rockboy on a ipod 5.5g? |
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08:27:11 | pere | hi people, i was looking if someone could tell me how mp3 work? |
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08:29:35 | pere | nevermind: howstuffworks :p |
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08:36:03 | pere | >.> so ive yet to find the microprossessor |
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08:42:42 | pere | webguest06 maybe, how can i help you? |
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09:59:58 | liberty____ | Seems today's iaudio M5 build is broken. The file size is sharply discreased. |
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10:05:24 | pixelma_ | that's seems to be related to the failed rockboy commit... unfortunate time to build the daily (maybe there'll be other people coming in here with the same problem...) |
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10:27:01 | JdGordon | hey all |
10:27:07 | JdGordon | amiconn: you try the action stuff? |
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10:35:15 | pixelma | markun: around? |
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10:44:37 | markun | pixelma: yes |
10:50:31 | markun | are you? :) |
10:51:00 | pixelma | yes, again :) |
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10:53:36 | JdGordon | any h10 users? |
10:53:38 | JdGordon | here... |
10:55:16 | pixelma | I'm currently looking at the nimbus-19.bdf to fix a problem with the lowercase "a ring" but wondered about some missing glyphs (like e.g. paragraph) |
10:57:26 | pixelma | ^markun: it looked to me that they are defined somehow but empty - could be that I'm only struggling with fontforge again thou |
10:57:39 | pixelma | *though |
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11:28:07 | pixelma | pondlife: re. your forum post - he already knows the bit about voice... that's why he does the battery benches (to see how much impact that has on battery life on Ipod Video) |
11:28:17 | pondlife | Ah, ok. |
11:28:45 | pondlife | I'm trying to work on that bug at the moment. |
11:30:32 | pixelma | nice... he's a blind user and dependent on voice. |
11:31:23 | pondlife | Hmm, if I attempt to run any old builds (say rev 11000), it gives me an "I00: at FFFFFF00" error the moment I press a key... |
11:32:15 | pondlife | This is on H300. Any ideas? |
11:32:31 | JdGordon | hmm... rolo is fubar on the sansa! |
11:34:49 | * | pondlife tries svn up -r12000 instead |
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11:52:13 | markun | pixelma: could be, I haven't looked at the fonts for quite a while |
11:52:41 | markun | still have some unfinished changes lying around somewhere |
11:54:54 | pixelma | just committed the big change for the "a ring" ;) |
11:56:24 | markun | good |
11:56:52 | markun | I'm not at home right now, maybe I can try to commit some changes when I get back after the weekend |
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12:01:41 | pixelma | I'm also searching for a different bdf editor - this one looks nice (but haven't tried yet) http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/bdfedit.html |
12:04:05 | pixelma | oh... there are also some bdfs downloadable "for free" as he states... |
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12:47:05 | pixelma | IIRC - he won't be around today |
12:47:30 | JdGordon | bah |
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12:51:20 | pixelma | that's what he said too :) |
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13:12:01 | PaulJam | Hey, is dircache currently broken on H300? |
13:12:35 | pixelma | petur reported that too yesterday |
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13:45:55 | ^Haggeman^ | Hi, is there a prebuilt image for Sansa with the modcodec included? |
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13:56:45 | pixelma | not that I know of - but you can have a look at the "unsupported builds" forum. Maybe you'll find something there... |
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14:25:50 | TiMiD[FD] | PaulJam: what ? |
14:25:57 | TiMiD[FD] | a problem with dircache ? |
14:27:03 | TiMiD[FD] | what is the problem ? |
14:27:04 | PaulJam | TiMiD[FD]: yes, dircache is enabled but the disk still spins up in the filebrowser. according to the debug menu dircache is ready. |
14:28:27 | PaulJam | (on a H300 with r13950) |
14:28:48 | TiMiD[FD] | hmm |
14:29:13 | TiMiD[FD] | I've been having this problem for months but I thought I was the only one ... |
14:29:33 | TiMiD[FD] | maybe your problem is related to my yesterday's commit ? |
14:30:53 | PaulJam | i can try the dayly build before the commit. |
14:31:19 | TiMiD[FD] | does the problem happens at every rebot ? |
14:31:42 | TiMiD[FD] | for me the problem I've have had for month only occurs one reboot on 2 |
14:31:59 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll try the last build on my h100 |
14:35:42 | TiMiD[FD] | hmmit seems that I have the same problem |
14:36:15 | PaulJam | with the dayly build from jul. 20 the dircache works normally. |
14:36:43 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
14:36:52 | TiMiD[FD] | so it's my fault <_< |
14:37:08 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll fix it |
14:37:22 | TiMiD[FD] | (I suppose) |
14:39:01 | TiMiD[FD] | but yesterday GodEater todl me it was working fine on gigabeat |
14:39:03 | TiMiD[FD] | weird |
14:39:43 | PaulJam | mybe it depends on the target |
14:40:38 | TiMiD[FD] | I would be very surprised it works on gigabeat and not on iriver |
14:40:45 | TiMiD[FD] | because they both have dircache |
14:40:55 | TiMiD[FD] | excepted if some magic is invoilved |
14:42:03 | TiMiD[FD] | vut first I have to eat and to rest a little bit from this busy day |
14:45:38 | amiconn | TiMiD[FD]: petur reported the same problem |
14:45:47 | amiconn | I didn't svn up yet because of that... |
14:48:33 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
14:48:40 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll fix it |
14:50:46 | crwl | i think i've also had problems with dircache for quite a long time now (on h120) |
14:50:52 | crwl | but haven't bothered to investigate |
14:51:33 | TiMiD[FD] | crwl: what kind of problem ? |
14:51:36 | crwl | heh, my build seems to be from March, maybe it's a time to upgrade |
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14:52:02 | crwl | TiMiD[FD], the disk spins up in file browser even if dircache is enabled |
14:52:19 | TiMiD[FD] | from march I've been having that kind of problem too |
14:52:34 | crwl | not always, though |
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14:52:56 | TiMiD[FD] | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7253 |
14:52:59 | TiMiD[FD] | that ? |
14:55:33 | crwl | doesn't seem to be that easily repeatable |
14:55:49 | TiMiD[FD] | well but something like tha ? |
14:56:12 | crwl | i have a feeling that dircache always works after boot |
14:56:27 | crwl | but when i've played some songs, it won't work anymore when i go to filebrowser and change songs |
14:57:23 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
14:57:33 | crwl | i really haven't investigated, but i have |
14:57:35 | crwl | ah |
14:57:46 | crwl | i have *often* noticed, that i can't get to the filebrowser instantly |
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15:03:35 | JdGordon | amiconn: hey |
15:07:26 | PaulJam | I think i have observed too that dircache sometimes stopped working during operation of the player, but it didn't happen often and i haven't found a way to reproduce this. |
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15:09:34 | JdGordon | ok fine... any h10 users round? |
15:09:59 | * | Arathis reports |
15:10:19 | JdGordon | can you test out a patch please? |
15:10:47 | Arathis | maybe ;) |
15:10:50 | Arathis | what is it? |
15:11:27 | JdGordon | fixes a problem with screens that say "press off to abort" or whatever the equiv is for h10 |
15:11:42 | JdGordon | and the debug screens (audio screen ...) |
15:11:54 | Arathis | think I can test that |
15:12:13 | JdGordon | actually... can anyone who is bored please check jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff |
15:12:50 | JdGordon | Arathis: is that patch works, you should be able to leave the audio debug screen with the left button |
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15:13:17 | Arathis | wasn't that commited some days ago? |
15:13:27 | JdGordon | i dont think so |
15:13:30 | JdGordon | did I miss it? |
15:13:37 | Arathis | not sure atm |
15:14:08 | JdGordon | it was... but there is a bigger problem which this fixes |
15:14:15 | Arathis | oaky |
15:14:17 | JdGordon | ... migt have to actually revert that fix to make sure this works |
15:14:19 | Arathis | *okay |
15:16:01 | JdGordon | patch updated |
15:16:29 | JdGordon | hmm... that was thououly pointless actually :p |
15:16:36 | JdGordon | please leem know how it goes |
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15:19:25 | Arathis | JdGordon: my only problem is I can't build RB atm .. |
15:19:59 | JdGordon | 5/6gb or 20gb model? |
15:21:03 | amiconn | hi JdGordon |
15:21:13 | amiconn | I didn't test my idea yet - too little time... |
15:21:20 | JdGordon | i tihnk you were right about the action thing |
15:21:38 | JdGordon | the patch linked above is your idea and seems to work |
15:22:03 | JdGordon | i modifeid the e200 keymap to the same as h10 and i think its fine |
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15:22:11 | Arathis | JdGordon: 20gb |
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15:22:25 | JdGordon | Arathis: jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.zip">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.zip |
15:22:39 | JdGordon | (did that for someone else a while ago :) ) |
15:23:46 | amiconn | Arathis: Could you check something for me the next time your H10 freezes? |
15:24:09 | amiconn | I want to make sure the kind of freeze is the same thing I am observing |
15:24:36 | Arathis | I'M not using the player very much the last days, but I could let it play without heering. So what to check than? |
15:25:24 | amiconn | If it freezes, try to read the display (it is readable even without backlight in bright enough, directed light) |
15:26:01 | amiconn | What I am observing is that it is *not* a simple freeze. The display shows a blurred afterimage of what was displayed before (i.e. the wps), |
15:26:15 | amiconn | overlaid with 2 lines of small letter text at the top |
15:26:30 | Arathis | I could also let the backlight on all time. It once froze while the light was on and it stayed on after the freeze |
15:26:31 | amiconn | Try to decipher this text if possible. |
15:26:58 | amiconn | I am getting an undefined instruction exception |
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15:27:44 | Arathis | JdGordon: so, what should be possible with the patch besides leaving the audio thread? |
15:27:55 | amiconn | I wonder why that happens though, as the cpu is the same as in the ipod mini 1st gen which never crashed like this after my fixes |
15:28:14 | amiconn | JdGordon: Do you also have the .map file of this build by chance? |
15:28:23 | JdGordon | Arathis: im not really sure, amiconn knows the problem more than me... |
15:28:29 | JdGordon | amiconn: yeah 1 sec, ill put it up |
15:28:30 | amiconn | If so, Arathis could run 2 tests in one |
15:29:05 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.map">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.map |
15:29:19 | JdGordon | Arathis: ca you naviagte the menusa dn settings correctly? |
15:29:22 | amiconn | Arathis: If you run the freeze test with JdGordon's build, and then tell me the address (2nd line of the error message), I can check whether it's exactly the same thing or not |
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15:29:45 | JdGordon | leaving a setting screen puts you in the expected menu, doesnt jump one menu back? |
15:30:39 | * | amiconn will install the same build |
15:31:57 | Arathis | JdGordon: I can navigate as normal. one by one menu |
15:32:17 | Arathis | amiconn: should I use the default settings or my normal settings? |
15:32:23 | JdGordon | great |
15:32:30 | JdGordon | settings shouldnt matter |
15:32:40 | amiconn | Use what you like. I don't think it's settings dependent |
15:33:13 | Arathis | looking at all the people having the freezes it shouldn't be. ^^ |
15:33:52 | amiconn | It always takes a while until it freezes |
15:34:16 | amiconn | I observed 20..30 minutes - *if* it happens at all |
15:36:09 | JdGordon | did I misunderstand the bug? |
15:36:09 | amiconn | eh |
15:36:14 | Arathis | JdGordon: I'm experiencing something here. If I for example go to the playback settings menu and than into shuffle the first keypress doesn't do anything. the player won't react to it.same when I go back to he playback settings menu and try to leave it with <- |
15:36:18 | JdGordon | this isnt related tot he segfault in the sim is it? |
15:36:25 | * | amiconn didn't check it's a 20gb build |
15:36:40 | JdGordon | yes, 20gb |
15:36:45 | * | amiconn wonders why the bootloader didn't reject it |
15:36:47 | Arathis | amiconn: I had a freeze after some seconds one time |
15:37:00 | amiconn | Looks really funny... |
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15:38:36 | JdGordon | Arathis: thanks, same thing happens on my sansa... |
15:38:54 | amiconn | That must be a different thing then |
15:39:03 | amiconn | Clock scaling isn't enabled for sansa atm |
15:39:30 | JdGordon | no, i modified my sansa keymap to test |
15:39:31 | amiconn | (because of the clicks due to slow cache flushes delaying fiq too much) |
15:39:34 | JdGordon | compiling the sim now |
15:40:18 | JdGordon | yep, its eating the first press |
15:40:20 | amiconn | The action code should never ignore presses, only releases or repeats |
15:40:39 | amiconn | And the latter only if they happen in a changed context |
15:40:51 | amiconn | But maybe I am missing something here... |
15:41:45 | JdGordon | yeah, /me blames this on me being sick :p |
15:42:19 | JdGordon | fixed, ill up the fixed diff in a sec |
15:42:58 | JdGordon | link updated |
15:43:05 | JdGordon | you want the mi4 also? |
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15:44:44 | JdGordon | Arathis: jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.mi4">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/rockbox.mi4 |
15:45:07 | Arathis | what for a new BL? |
15:45:24 | Arathis | btw: test started :) |
15:46:17 | JdGordon | test started with which build? I replaced the .map so can you start it again with that linked mi4? |
15:47:14 | Arathis | with your build bt with the old mi4 |
15:47:36 | Arathis | what did you change in the .map? |
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15:51:49 | Arathis | JdGordon: ? |
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15:52:43 | JdGordon | Arathis: just copy the rockbox.mi4 linked above into .rockbox and restart the test... the .map is a generated file based on the compile |
15:53:03 | Arathis | k |
15:53:23 | Arathis | oh, navigating works correctly again |
15:54:18 | Arathis | test started again |
15:56:07 | JdGordon | great |
15:58:23 | JdGordon | wow, only 75 calls to action_signalscreenchange needed removing, that felt like hundreds :p |
15:59:25 | JdGordon | amiconn: full diff is at jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff if you want to comit it, im goign to bed in a few min |
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16:01:51 | PaulJam | JdGordon: just out of curiosity: when you implemented the foregroundcoulour for the inbuilt icons, why did you only change the colour of half of the icons? |
16:02:14 | JdGordon | i changed it on all of them didnt I? |
16:03:36 | JdGordon | haha, what the heck? |
16:03:37 | PaulJam | the first 11.8 icons are still black. |
16:04:46 | JdGordon | 11.8? the 12th icon is only 0.2 coloured correctly? |
16:05:32 | JdGordon | it must have been the zoom level and I didnt even realise... fixing now |
16:05:43 | daurnimator | hi all |
16:06:31 | TiMiD[FD] | does someone know what include is required to know wether HAVE_DIRCACHE is defined or not ? |
16:06:48 | TiMiD[FD] | config.h ? |
16:07:12 | JdGordon | yes, config. |
16:07:13 | JdGordon | h |
16:07:19 | JdGordon | PaulJam: fixed |
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16:07:24 | TiMiD[FD] | ok |
16:08:14 | Snake | Any tips on how to speed up rockboy? |
16:08:18 | PaulJam | thanks :) |
16:08:24 | Snake | or perhaps a better way to emulate gameboy? |
16:08:46 | JdGordon | Snake: buy a gameboy? |
16:09:18 | PaulJam | Snake: i think i heard that the ipodlinux gameboyemulator has better performance. |
16:09:58 | Snake | JdGordon: I already have enough to carry around im afraid (iPod, Camera, 2 cellphones and a wallet) |
16:10:03 | Snake | I dont have room for a gameboy :P |
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16:13:12 | Snake | It looks like iboy and rockboy are my only options :( |
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16:23:05 | TiMiD[FD] | dircache fixed on my h100 at least |
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16:25:52 | Arathis | wohoo, freeze :D |
16:26:20 | Arathis | amiconn: Undefinded instruction at 00058FA8 |
16:26:48 | Arathis | I'll run a second test to see if the adress changes |
16:27:42 | Arathis | oh, and just the wps without any data was shown with the error msg on top |
16:27:57 | Arathis | the wps background image in fact |
16:28:04 | krazykit | Snake, sounds like you need a purse. |
16:28:20 | TiMiD[FD] | hah fun |
16:28:34 | TiMiD[FD] | I got a freeze in the train this afternoon too |
16:28:41 | JdGordon | Arathis: your sure thats the correct address? |
16:28:50 | Arathis | yes |
16:28:56 | Arathis | checked it twice |
16:29:13 | TiMiD[FD] | I was going to see my date and the first thing I asked her was "ermm do you have a needle aor a sharp pen" |
16:29:34 | JdGordon | lol |
16:29:38 | TiMiD[FD] | </my life> |
16:30:26 | PaulJam | Normalyy when i get a freeze that shows an error message it is sufficient to press the play button to reset the player (h300) |
16:30:35 | TiMiD[FD] | oh ? |
16:30:37 | TiMiD[FD] | really ? |
16:30:45 | TiMiD[FD] | I thought you needed a needle .. |
16:30:52 | TiMiD[FD] | I'll test |
16:31:13 | TiMiD[FD] | running mpegplayer on the h100 makes the player freeze |
16:31:22 | TiMiD[FD] | very convenient |
16:31:32 | TiMiD[FD] | if you have some freeze test to run ... |
16:32:08 | TiMiD[FD] | ahh !! no way it works again |
16:32:25 | TiMiD[FD] | someone reduced the main stack usage in some way |
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16:44:49 | TiMiD[FD] | does anyone knows a user space fat reader ? |
16:45:46 | markun | mtools? |
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16:47:10 | Arathis | amiconn, JdGordon: second freeze, again 00058FA8 |
16:49:22 | TiMiD[FD] | markun: thank you |
16:49:45 | Arathis | JdGordon: shall I make a photo of the player to proof me right? ;) |
16:49:52 | JdGordon | no, i belive you |
16:49:57 | Arathis | :D |
16:50:27 | JdGordon | I was expecting the number to be in the area of the action code, thats in the hardware area, so its up to amiconn to figure out... |
16:50:38 | JdGordon | no nasty surprises with the buttons ? |
16:51:34 | JdGordon | last call before bed to get ppl to test jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/actionfix.diff look out for eatn buttons, or screens which are being skipped, or similar.. ill read the logs tomorow |
16:51:37 | JdGordon | gnite all |
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16:51:48 | Arathis | I just played music. no further button pressing |
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17:03:16 | PaulJam | propably not rockbox related, but does somebody know why my h300 doesn't always power on when i connect the usb cable? i either have to press PLAY or wait a random amount of time (up to 10 minutes). |
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17:13:55 | amiconn | Arathis: Thanks for testing. The address is _very_ slightly different from what I am getting, but that's probably due to H10 20GB<->H10 6GB differences |
17:14:38 | amiconn | For my version, I figured out the spot in the code where it crashes |
17:14:59 | amiconn | It does have to do with clock change, but I don't yet understand why it crashes there |
17:15:39 | amiconn | I'll have to dive into H10 OF disassembly :/ |
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17:32:12 | Zsan | Hm, it seems I have a question |
17:32:41 | Zsan | Why do iPods when running RB not seem to recognize the Apple charger as a charger when they do charge? |
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18:12:28 | bordy | hey gents. So I installed rockbox (thanks for the help yesterday) and I can't see my music... raises a strange question, do I have to have it in two directories, so I can see it in both rockbox and the native ipod area too? |
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18:16:04 | PaulJam_ | bordy: search for Database in the manual |
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18:16:36 | bordy | PaulJam_: interestingly (or embarassingly) enough I think I had just figured out my issue right before you said that ;) |
18:16:39 | bordy | and you beat me to the punch |
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18:49:30 | bordy | grrr... I created a directory for movies, and put two m4v's in there, but they dont show up under files in rockbox. Nor do my playlists, for some reason. Any advice? |
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18:50:31 | Kasperle | maybe it's because rockbox doesn't play m4v. or does it? |
18:50:52 | Kasperle | in one of the settings menus you can tell rockbox which file types you want it to display |
18:51:05 | Kasperle | e.g. known or supported files, or all files |
18:52:52 | bluebrother | Rockbox only plays mpeg2 movies. |
18:53:01 | bordy | hmm. |
18:53:01 | bluebrother | read the PluginMpegplayer wiki page. |
18:53:15 | bordy | I am havin a hard enough time switching the AVIs to M4V! lol |
18:53:20 | bordy | will do, bluebrother. thankee |
18:53:29 | bluebrother | and playlists need to be in m3u / m3u8 format. |
18:53:54 | bordy | how would I go about doin that? Actually now that I think about it all I have are my amaroK playlists. |
18:55:39 | bluebrother | well, what formats are the playlists in? |
18:55:51 | bluebrother | never tried to sync amarok playlists to the player ... |
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18:56:33 | bluebrother | you can at least manually save playlists as m3u. No idea how it behaves upon syncing. |
18:57:03 | bluebrother | but I could imagine it syncs to the itunesdb if you configured to use the Ipod sync plugin. |
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19:00:48 | bordy | grr, this is killin me. lol |
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19:07:23 | PaulJam_ | hmm, shouldn't the simulator have the same volume range like the real target? on the h300 sim it goes from -40 to +6. i dont think it was always like that. |
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19:15:59 | markun | TiMiD[FD]: ah. good to hear. I've never used mtools myself, just remembered the name. |
19:16:53 | kkurbjun | toffe82, I finally updated the gigabeat jtag info |
19:17:04 | pere__ | anyone knows what pl TLD stands for? |
19:17:19 | kkurbjun | and put up the patch for openocd so that you can write to flash from it |
19:17:27 | markun | pere__: poland? |
19:18:03 | kkurbjun | the new config file that is there should allow you to access the flash from openocd while rockbox is running also, the old configuration was only useful before the mmu was turned on |
19:18:28 | pere__ | markun: maybe, im trying to investigate about the posible prossesor, but ony about 10 pages are found with that model u.u |
19:26:11 | markun | pere__: which model do you mean? |
19:26:24 | pere__ | m5661r |
19:26:27 | pere__ | ali |
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19:29:44 | toffe82 | kkurbjun: I saw the update, but for the moment I am a little out :) too much work |
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19:33:59 | kkurbjun | I gotcha, I'm still working on getting the flash plugin put into the tracker, right now it rewrites the whole flash and I would like to get it down so that only sections of the device are erased and flashed as needed |
19:34:08 | markun | toffe82: anything you can do for this guy? http://www.mygigabeat.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=CB6D9458-3048-2906-EA3035968EFCA23A |
19:34:32 | kkurbjun | plus there's still quite a bit of work that needs to be done in terms of the boot process |
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19:43:10 | markun | Slasheri: did you ever have a commit which reduced binary size? |
19:43:12 | markun | :) |
19:43:57 | Slasheri | ouch, it did have a small impact to the binary size.. |
19:44:04 | * | Slasheri hides from amiconn :) |
19:44:59 | daurnimator | hi markun |
19:47:27 | tohtorijep | does anybody use ubuntu and know how to get computer sending data to last.fm _automatically_ when rockbox is pluged in? at least ubuntu knows how to mount automatically... |
19:48:01 | pere__ | tohtorijep: maybe a script? |
19:48:09 | tohtorijep | sure |
19:48:16 | daurnimator | tohtorijep: sorry, I don't use unbuntu, or linux.... or even rockbox :P |
19:49:00 | tohtorijep | pere__, I'm not so good at coding or linux that I could make a script |
19:49:39 | tohtorijep | i dont even know which program handles the automatic mounting |
19:49:46 | tohtorijep | so it would be hard to make a script |
19:54:23 | pere__ | tohtorijep: let me investigate ;) |
19:54:31 | toffe82 | markun: I don't have any spare lcd working, I have only 2 F10 working |
19:54:57 | tohtorijep | pere__, i let!!!! :D |
19:55:39 | pere__ | tohtorijep: you use gnome, i suppose? |
19:56:47 | tohtorijep | yes |
19:57:38 | tohtorijep | ubuntu=gnome+ubuntu, kubuntu=kde+ubuntu, xubuntu=xfce+ubuntu |
19:58:46 | Bjoern-Erik | not necessarily |
19:59:16 | daurnimator | edubuntu = ? |
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20:01:12 | daurnimator | then there is fluxbuntu |
20:01:19 | daurnimator | and gobuntu |
20:02:04 | tohtorijep | go? |
20:02:32 | pere__ | tohtorijep: when you connect the player, does the icon shows as a drive or a player? |
20:02:56 | tohtorijep | yes.. a player |
20:03:03 | pere__ | good |
20:03:15 | daurnimator | tohtorijep: gobuntu is a version of ubuntu with absolutely NOTHING propriety |
20:03:32 | tohtorijep | pere__, thanks a lot for helping me :) |
20:04:53 | pere__ | ok, look, there is a programm to manage gnome-volume-manager , but first we need the script, ill see what i can do |
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20:05:32 | tohtorijep | wow :o i didnt expect that program to be the right one |
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20:06:36 | pere__ | tohtorijep: no, that program just mounts, gnome-volume-properties is the one we need :p |
20:06:54 | tohtorijep | okay :) |
20:07:52 | tohtorijep | hey |
20:08:02 | tohtorijep | i have the script that sends the last.fm data |
20:08:12 | tohtorijep | pere__ |
20:08:21 | pere__ | does any body kows how the last.fm thing on rockbox works? |
20:08:26 | pere__ | oook |
20:08:28 | tohtorijep | i just type 'update-lastfm' and it sends the data |
20:08:31 | pere__ | perfect, let me see it |
20:08:36 | pere__ | oook |
20:08:37 | pere__ | so |
20:08:38 | tohtorijep | yeah |
20:08:38 | pere__ | just |
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20:08:57 | pere__ | :p just run gnome-volume-properties |
20:09:01 | Cam | hey can anyone help me with a simple question |
20:09:22 | pere__ | tohtorijep: go to "multimedia" > Portable music players |
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20:09:29 | tohtorijep | pere__, it doesnt work.. i have tried to put it there |
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20:09:32 | pere__ | ? |
20:09:54 | tohtorijep | it is meant for music player |
20:10:16 | pere__ | tohtorijep: where is the script located? |
20:10:21 | tohtorijep | if you delete the setting on "PLay music files when connected" the command line goes inactive |
20:10:45 | pere__ | no, dont delete that, dont unselect it |
20:10:50 | tohtorijep | the script is rockscrobbler |
20:11:08 | tohtorijep | i havent |
20:11:12 | pere__ | didnt you said it was update-lastfm? |
20:11:14 | tohtorijep | put it still doesnt work |
20:11:20 | tohtorijep | i made my own script |
20:11:49 | tohtorijep | cd /home/tohtorijep/.rockscrobbler/ |
20:11:56 | tohtorijep | ./rockscrobbler.bat |
20:12:02 | tohtorijep | that is the script |
20:12:13 | tohtorijep | its located in /usr/bin |
20:13:46 | tohtorijep | /usr/bin/update-lastfm |
20:13:49 | PaulJam_ | Cam: just ask |
20:14:58 | Cam | o ok xD..Well im Japanese, and i have a lot of Japanese music...but it appears as a box, and not as the Katakana |
20:15:06 | tohtorijep | pere__, do you know where could i find the log for gnome-volume-properties? |
20:15:12 | Cam | how to i load, or can i load a language pack? |
20:15:20 | tohtorijep | pere__, i mean that how i could see why it doesnt work |
20:15:20 | pere__ | tohtorijep: i dont know, |
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20:15:33 | PaulJam_ | Cam: do you have the additional fonts installed? |
20:15:35 | tohtorijep | but i bet it is just for music players |
20:15:36 | pere__ | but if i could see you bat script i could solve the problem |
20:16:21 | Cam | no, i just load the rockbox |
20:16:34 | Cam | how do i load the new font |
20:16:35 | PaulJam_ | Cam: choose a font that supports your language. for example unifont |
20:17:25 | PaulJam_ | Cam: download the fonts here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras |
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20:17:43 | Cam | where do i extract the file to |
20:17:46 | PaulJam_ | just extract the zip to the root of your player |
20:17:47 | bluebrother | Cam: please check the installation section of the manual |
20:17:52 | bluebrother | it's all explained there. |
20:18:10 | bluebrother | including hyperlinks to the required downloads ... |
20:18:21 | Cam | ok thanks |
20:18:28 | tohtorijep | pere__, i pmd you |
20:18:39 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
20:18:50 | Cam | and another question...i am think of gettin the Current build for my mp3 player, if i do this, does it erase my music? |
20:18:52 | tohtorijep | pere__, okay it didnt work because i havent registered |
20:18:58 | bluebrother | no |
20:19:00 | pere__ | :p |
20:19:24 | pere__ | tohtorijep: lest go #tohpe ok? |
20:19:27 | Cam | ok thanks |
20:19:33 | tohtorijep | okay |
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20:34:46 | XavierGr | bluebrother: RTC mod works excellent, thanks again! :D |
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20:39:12 | bluebrother | XavierGr: great to hear. |
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20:42:36 | Cam | hi, i just installed the newest current build and it locked up my MP3 player, i entered recovery mode, and i am going to revert to the older firmware....how do i find it? |
20:43:20 | bluebrother | follow the "archived builds" link on the download page |
20:44:49 | Cam | ok thanks |
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20:52:27 | Cam | um i have download and installed the newest, and a older version...and everytime i boot up now, it freezes |
20:52:46 | Cam | can someone go through the installation process? |
20:53:09 | Cam | i look at the manual, but i do not understand very well |
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21:00:23 | tohtorijep | pere__, lol.. no it worked when i put "#!/bin/sh" line at the beginning of the shell script 'update-lastfm' and put the whole path to gnome-volume-properties '/usr/bin/update-lastfm'.. weird! |
21:00:52 | tohtorijep | but it didnt work properly |
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21:01:06 | tohtorijep | it sent only one song even though i listened 5 |
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21:01:49 | PaulJam_ | Can someone tell me what values each dot on the peakmeter scale represents? i know this was documented somewhere, but i cant find it anymore. |
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21:03:32 | PaulJam_ | nevermind, i found it. |
21:04:10 | pere__ | tohtorijep: :P |
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21:41:53 | tohtorijep | pere__, yeahh it works now.. i just had to add the full path.. thanks for helping me! |
21:42:07 | pere__ | :p your wellcome |
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22:11:04 | pere__ | anyone interested in a coby (ipodnano like) player? |
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22:14:35 | Snake | Is there any simple way to add all the songs in my library to a playlist? |
22:14:45 | Snake | or will it have to "search" them each time? |
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22:16:18 | mbishop | Snake: I believe playing "All songs" will make a playlist of...all the songs :P |
22:18:18 | Snake | mbishop: yeah but every time I do that it says "Searching found 5,039 songs" |
22:18:29 | Snake | and it like has to load every single song (which obviously takes foreverr) |
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22:20:25 | Snake | meh i gotta go get dinner, ill be back latre |
22:23:29 | Robin0800 | Snake,I use a computer and foobar 2000 very quick system |
22:24:24 | Robin0800 | Snake,just load all your songs and make a playlist |
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22:37:45 | Snake | Robin0800: thats basically what I just did, I didnt realize that it just used standard m3us |
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22:49:06 | pere__ | lol i screwed up badly my player xo |
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22:52:46 | Febs | pere__: what did you do? |
22:53:06 | pere__ | Febs: I was looking at the board :p |
22:53:43 | pere__ | Febs: Now tactile buttons are non responsive u.u , i guess ill let someone handle the port, or simply forget about it |
22:54:24 | Snake | pere__: what kind of player is it?? |
22:55:24 | pere__ | Febs: its not rockboxed yet, coby mpc 7085 |
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22:56:22 | BHSPitMonkey | pere__, trying to rockbox it? |
22:56:27 | pere__ | yup |
22:56:43 | BHSPitMonkey | no board scans on the web? :P |
22:56:52 | pere__ | i did them already |
22:56:58 | BHSPitMonkey | ah. |
22:57:12 | pere__ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CobyInfo |
22:57:15 | BHSPitMonkey | wouldn't it be handy to have an x-ray sometimes |
22:57:16 | Snake | pere__: what kind of hardware is it running? I cant find any info on it |
22:57:47 | Snake | no cpu?? |
22:57:52 | Snake | pere__: thats.. impossible? |
22:59:57 | Snake | pere__: I think thats the processor (the ALi) ali is acer labs |
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23:00:21 | linuxstb | pere__: http://www.yosungroup.com/yosun/business_detail.do?bulletinId=243 |
23:00:55 | pere__ | Snake: me neither :D the cpu appears as ALi |
23:00:55 | pere__ | Snake: I know, i thought i diidn't saw it, but its that Ali m5661r b1, i think its the only one in the world hehe |
23:01:03 | pere__ | Snake: realy??? i thougth ... damn... ill check :P thanks linuxstb |
23:01:46 | Snake | pere__: that is def acer labs supplied, not sure if its the processor though, but thats what the specialize in |
23:02:14 | pere__ | hoho, i search arec labs and got ali.com.tw |
23:03:10 | Snake | pere__: yeah that peticualler chip isnt on their products page though |
23:03:29 | pere__ | Snake: yup u.u i guess its a no go |
23:03:56 | Snake | pere__: well I know it came from them, just gotta figure out what its used for now ;) |
23:07:37 | Snake | pere__: thats the processor |
23:07:41 | Snake | http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://tech.sina.com.cn/digi/2007-06-11/1059333768.shtml&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dali%2BM5661R%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26hs%3DTJ1%26sa%3DN |
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23:08:02 | Snake | The chip is the free encyclopedia from Taiwan Semiconductor Corporation (Ali) generation, is the main interface of USB 2.0 + Flash Disk MP3 control chip can be used for U + MP3 disc player and other solutions. 同时还具有OTG、高性能、高度集成化、功能丰富等特点。Also have OTG, high-performance, highly integrated, feature rich features. |
23:08:11 | Snake | Its rough, but that sounds like a CPU to me |
23:08:33 | Bagder | the X5 has a usbotg chip from ali, iirc |
23:13:43 | Snake | How come the ipod port doesnt use the ipods second cpu at all? |
23:16:13 | Su8l1me | Who said it didn't ? |
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23:17:04 | Snake | GodEater: ummm 3/4s of the rockbox docs |
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23:17:25 | GodEater | rockbox docs refer to it as the COP |
23:17:34 | GodEater | and it's used it since like December I think |
23:18:14 | Snake | ah |
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23:20:15 | pere__ | Snake: thanks :D |
23:21:49 | linuxstb | Snake: Are you talking about the second ARM CPU core (present in all ipods), or the ipod video's Broadcom video processor? |
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23:22:18 | pere__ | Snake: it seems it also has the same memory |
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23:23:00 | Snake | linuxstb: the second arm chip |
23:23:09 | Snake | though if we could start using the broadcom thatd be nice too :P |
23:23:26 | linuxstb | mpegplayer uses it, but the rest of Rockbox doesn't yet. |
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23:23:37 | linuxstb | (the second arm core) |
23:24:19 | tumu | what's with the metadata code using the path field for temp storage? |
23:24:37 | Snake | well im outa here |
23:24:40 | Snake | cya guys |
23:25:15 | linuxstb | tumu: Because it's there... |
23:25:40 | tumu | is malloc forbidden there? |
23:25:48 | linuxstb | What malloc? |
23:25:54 | tumu | :S |
23:26:05 | tumu | no any other storage available? |
23:26:33 | linuxstb | You could use the stack, but it's only about 8KB, so you need to be careful. |
23:26:48 | tumu | meh |
23:27:27 | linuxstb | And even though the codecs have a very simple malloc available, it's desirable not to use it. |
23:27:42 | tumu | ya, figured it out |
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23:32:39 | tumu | writing a metadata parser for modules could be an issue.. |
23:32:53 | tumu | atleast using dumb's internal routines |
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23:33:34 | tumu | would have to write own minimal parser for each supported format |
23:34:39 | linuxstb | How many formats are we talking about? |
23:35:29 | tumu | four |
23:36:10 | linuxstb | That doesn't sound too bad. |
23:36:27 | tumu | no, but dumb already has parsers for those |
23:37:33 | tumu | but as they're mixed in with rest of the player code, it's a mess |
23:37:52 | tumu | it parses the module data at the same time as the meta |
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23:38:07 | tumu | they're not seperate |
23:38:40 | linuxstb | That's normal - which is why all (afaik) the other parsers were also written from scratch. |
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23:43:36 | dnanar | hi all ! |
23:44:00 | tumu | i guess i just have to bite the bullet on writing the metaparser |
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23:44:01 | tumu | s |
23:44:45 | tumu | but that path abuse isn't exactly good practise |
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23:45:01 | tumu | who knows where it might get stored one day |
23:47:36 | linuxstb | Yes, using the stack (with restraint) is probably a better idea. |
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23:48:24 | dnanar | i'm looking for the cheapest portable player supported by rockbox, with, at least 15GB memory. I'm trying to google through the model given on the homepage of rockbox, but some of the products (a lot of in fact) are dicontinued. Anybody has got a more up to date list or has got some advice to know which portable music player should i use please ? :) |
23:48:59 | linuxstb | Have you seen the BuyersGuide wiki page? That has approximate prices. |
23:50:13 | linuxstb | Also, are you looking for a brand new player, or are you happy with a used model? |
23:51:06 | dnanar | thanks for the wiki page |
23:51:30 | dnanar | Also, are you looking for a brand new player, or are you happy with a used model? > well it doesn't matter. all that i would like is a shop in europe :) |
23:53:52 | linuxstb | The Gigabeat F series (F10/F20/F40/F60) are relatively cheap - you can probably find one for less than 100 EUR on ebay. |
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