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#rockbox log for 2007-07-21

00:00:03 Join Siltaar [0] (
00:02:30iambenposingaspopular: seems you have some self-esteem issues =)
00:02:53 Quit lymeca ("...and don't forget: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 !")
00:03:26amiconnSoul-Slayer: You could check one thing when the H10 freezes next time: The display is somewhat readable in directed light (sunlight, torchlight etc). Check whether the display shows a blurred afterimage of what was there before, overlaid with some tiny writing at the top of the screen
00:04:08amiconnThis is not a plain freeze
00:04:39Soul-SlayerHow many you managed to make it freeze so far? I haven't been able to replicate it, it just seems to happen
00:05:00amiconnOnly once today
00:05:07amiconnAbout 3 times yesterday
00:05:22Soul-SlayerAck, I hate using my H10 now I have a gigabeat lol
00:05:27amiconnTakes 20..30 minutes to happen - if it happens at all
00:05:28 Quit pere__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
00:05:30Soul-SlayerThe screen is just so disgusting
00:05:48Soul-SlayerWas it always in the WPS?
00:06:07amiconnI couldn't make it freeze in the audio thread debug screen
00:06:14Soul-SlayerTypical, really.
00:06:15 Join webguest62 [0] (i=43a35bd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/
00:06:17posingaspopulariamben: no i have issues with not reading correctly because i want to get this done
00:06:20amiconnIt seems independent of the format played
00:06:52Soul-Slayerposingaspopular: That's the fastest way to make sure it never gets done :p
00:07:12amiconnYesterday I thought that playing flac makes it more likely, but after playing the same flac album 3 times without freeze, I switched to mp3 and it froze after half an hour...
00:07:38Soul-SlayerWhat bitrate MP3, do you recall?
00:08:24amiconnvbr (lame −−preset standard)
00:08:27webguest62Hi i know that this isn't a rockbox question but can anyone help? i'm trying to install ipod linux on my 5g video ipod i already have rockbox but i want ipod linux too.
00:08:36posingaspopularokay my ipod isn't being detected, even though i plugged it in when it was in discmode
00:08:46webguest62i already tried using their IRC but i cant log in
00:08:50posingaspopularwell it was recognized, but i have no idea what the mount point is
00:08:50Soul-Slayerwebguest62: Try #ipodlinux
00:08:58Soul-SlayerYou don't need to log in do you?
00:09:15amiconnOkay, next test
00:09:23*amiconn changed something in the clock setup
00:09:37Soul-SlayerRight well, I shall leave my H10 playing and check if it freezes in a moment
00:09:37GodEaterposingaspopular: you don't need to know the mount point
00:09:46webguest62it says that firefox doesn't know how to open the adress
00:09:48Soul-SlayerAnd by a moment, I mean a few hours.
00:09:48GodEaterposingaspopular: you DO need to run ipodpatcher as root
00:09:55posingaspopularoh well how do i do that
00:09:58Soul-Slayerwebguest62: Type /join #ipodlinux
00:10:02posingaspopularbecause it says 'no ipods found'
00:10:11webguest62where do i type it
00:10:13posingaspopulari fail at command line
00:10:17Soul-SlayerIn this chat bar.
00:10:56webguest62there is no chat bar so i cant even go to the IRC page
00:11:16scorchewebguest62: out cgi client only lets you access #rockbox
00:11:27 Join DerPapst [0] (
00:11:29Soul-SlayerThat explains that then.
00:11:50webguest62do yuo guy's know how to install ipod linux?
00:11:53amiconnIf that works for this album, I'll let it run during the night
00:11:59webguest62i you do can u plz help/
00:12:01scorchewebguest62: this isnt the channel for that as you have been told
00:12:10 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection)
00:12:22webguest62i know but i cant use the other channel
00:12:25DerPapstgood evening :)
00:12:35scorchethat doesnt mean you can violate the rules of this channel
00:12:38posingaspopularGodEater: so what do i do
00:12:42Soul-SlayerI suggest you find another IRC client, a simple java based online one would do, join the server and join #ipodlinux
00:13:00GodEaterposingaspopular: I think you need to read up on using your operating system =/
00:13:02*DerPapst suggests pjirc as web based irc client
00:13:09amiconnIirc there are open cgi:irc sites out there
00:13:22GodEaterfor example
00:13:37webguest62ok thanks but can you guy's please give me a li9nk to site where i'm supposed to do that?
00:13:45Soul-SlayerHe did.
00:13:51webguest62oh thank you
00:13:54 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04")
00:13:55webguest62: )
00:14:50Soul-Slayeramiconn: Problem with letting an H10 run through the night is the fact the battery will probably have died by then
00:15:01Soul-SlayerUnless you have it on charger, but I'm not sure how that would affect the test
00:16:01GodEaterSoul-Slayer: only one way to find out ;)
00:17:08posingaspopularGodEater: the problem is that the ipod is being recognized when i do 'ls hw' and check under usb
00:17:22linuxstbposingaspopular: Try "sudo ipodpatcher"
00:17:25Soul-SlayerThat's a problem?
00:17:49posingaspopularcommand not found
00:17:55Soul-Slayersudo ./ipodpatcher
00:18:35posingaspopularyea it says that no ipods are found and that i should put my ipod in disk mode
00:18:39posingaspopularwhich it's already in
00:18:53linuxstbWhich ipod do you have?
00:18:53Soul-SlayerHave you tried disconnecting and reconnecting it?
00:19:00DerPapstsudo make_me_a_sandwich
00:19:01 Quit Robin_0800 (" HydraIRC -> <-")
00:19:09GodEaterDerPapst: oh ok
00:19:15posingaspopularSoul-Slayer: i just did that
00:19:22posingaspopularlinuxstb: 30 gig video
00:19:29Soul-SlayerDerPapst: Enter root password.
00:19:45DerPapsterr ******
00:19:55 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan)
00:19:56GodEaterSoul-Slayer: that's not how it works, it asks for YOUR password - not roots :)
00:20:07Soul-SlayerTruth, but I want the root password.
00:20:42 Quit mrsean2k ("Leaving")
00:20:45 Join Robin0800 [0] (
00:22:03posingaspopularokay my ipod is being recognized as unmounted, removable medium
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00:23:33 Quit webguest62 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
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00:24:37 Quit webguest25 (Client Quit)
00:26:14linuxstbCan you mount it and access the files?
00:26:47linuxstbAnd does your ipod work normally? i.e. when you disconnect it does the Apple firmware start?
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00:28:35webguest57Hi i would like to know if there is a way to create my theme for rockbox? i have a 5g 30GB video ipod.
00:28:57webguest57i already installed rockbox.
00:29:23webguest57and i read the manual i still really dont understand it. sorry.
00:30:27GodEaterwebguest57: you need to read and understand that
00:30:50mpeccoriniwebguest57: this one will help too
00:31:04posingaspopularlinuxstb: umm... rockbox loads perfectly
00:31:12*GodEater hadn't seen that one before
00:31:31mpeccorinigodeater: is a work in progress, but it has images
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00:31:40GodEatermpeccorini: your work ?
00:32:00webguest57hank you let me try the other link
00:32:07mpeccorininope, I've never even seen a WPS, I work in chessbox :p
00:32:20GodEatergood link anyway :)
00:32:49mpeccoriniLOL, yes. "good job" for whomever did it :p
00:32:56*petur wonders how a user can say rb isn't as 'ready' on h320 as on h120? It's the same code...
00:33:02 Join Zdr [0] (
00:33:16GodEaterpetur: I wonder about a lot of the things our users think
00:33:59Zdrhey guys, got a question for everyone
00:34:46ZdrI have version r13926M-070718
00:34:54Zdrit's worked for a couple days
00:34:59pixelmapetur: I already answered that one...
00:35:04pixelma(I thought)
00:35:21Zdrthen today, i goto to plug it into my computer
00:35:28Zdrand my pc doesnt recognize the ipod ne more
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00:35:50 Quit webguest57 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)")
00:35:54Zdripod video btw
00:35:56 Quit webguest95 (Client Quit)
00:35:56GodEaterZdr: have you rebooted into disk mode manually?
00:36:22Zdrthen when i plug it in that, it reboots the ipod back and fortha couple times and shuts it off
00:36:38 Join Reno666 [0] (i=43a35bd4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/
00:36:39Zdrthe only way to turn it back on is to plug it into my wall charger
00:36:45PaulJam_diskmode is controlled by the apple software
00:36:47Zdrstill functions normally
00:37:00Zdrjsut cant get it to talk to my comp
00:37:20GodEateras PaulJam_ says, it's not running rockbox code when it's in diskmode
00:37:25GodEaterso it's not a rockbox fault
00:37:31Zdrlemme try again
00:37:40Zdrmenu and select correc
00:37:44Zdrtthen select and play
00:38:02Zdrok i'm in it now
00:38:04*petur leaves techy world for a week
00:38:17linuxstbZdr: Or just start the main Apple firmware...
00:38:19Reno666hi i just installed rockbox about a week ago on my ipod becuase i wanted it to be able to play mpeg movies but when they play the sound is a little bit faster than the movie can anyone please help me?
00:38:21 Quit petur ("back on 29/7")
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00:38:58Reno666i have a 30gb video ipod.
00:39:02PaulJam_Reno666: do you have frameskip and limit framerate enabled? and is your audio 44.1 kHz?
00:39:04Zdrhow can i get past the rockbox firmware without having it conencted to my computer
00:39:41Reno666it's still slow and i already tried the elephants dream movie too
00:39:43GodEaterReno666: the ipod video essentially sucks at video playback in rockbox, it's much better under the apple firmware
00:39:45PaulJam_Reno666: does the video play ok on your PC?
00:40:07DerPapstGoodbye everyone
00:40:09 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!")
00:40:13Reno666yea hi play perfectly on my pc
00:40:27GodEaterZdr: if you've put it into diskmode, then you've "got past" the rockbox firmware already
00:40:45Zdrcan i boot into apples default junk from there?
00:40:56Zdror is there not a way to switch it on the fly
00:41:09linuxstbReno666: I expect mpegplayer simply can't keep up with playing the video at full speed. Try encoding at a lower framerate/resolution/bitrate.
00:41:11GodEaterZdr: yes, just reset again (Menu+Select), and then immediatle flick the hold switch to on
00:41:35GodEaterZdr: that will cause the rockbox bootloader to load apple's firmware
00:41:46Reno666i got another question when i play music i want to know how i can display the album work u know like the photo.
00:41:51Zdrhmm k
00:42:08GodEaterReno666: That's not an official rockbox feature - you'd have to ask the author of a build which supports it
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00:42:52GodEaterReno666: although with any luck it WILL be an official feature in the next couple of months
00:43:14Reno666and i 'm geussing i would have to do the sae thing for rockoy like in the mpeg player right? i have the same problem.
00:43:35GodEaterI don't understand the question
00:44:02Reno666i have the same problem with the sound when i play gameboy roms
00:44:10 Join bordy [0] (n=bordy@unaffiliated/bordy)
00:44:16GodEaterI doubt there's anything you can do about that
00:44:23GodEaterother than buy a faster DAP
00:44:37PaulJam_or optimize the code...
00:44:41bordyhey gents, I Am evidently havin a tough time downloading the ipodpatcher... keeps telling me its a binary and will screw me up. And its just a bunch of symbols inside of konqueror. Any tips?
00:44:42Reno666...uuuuhhh......what is that?
00:44:56markundigital audio player
00:44:57GodEaterbordy: right click the link, save as
00:45:10bordyThanks GodEater
00:45:25GodEatersounds like the download servers aren't sending the right mime type
00:45:30GodEaterwhich is a bit peculiar
00:47:04GodEaterbordy: can I ask where you heard about rockbox from ?
00:47:13Reno666i have one final question. i dont know if its a rockbox question or not but here it goes: i just heard about ipod linux but for some reason i can't install it on my ipod beacause it says no ipod or device whatever found. can i use the rockbox bootloader to instal ipod linux?
00:47:35scorchethe bootloader doesnt install anything
00:47:43Zdrok so what could i have possibly done to this ipod that would have prevented it from connecting to the computer
00:47:47Reno666the uuuhhm what is it?
00:47:57scorcheit loads on boot..
00:48:09Zdrit has been in my house, sitting by its lonesome, was it becuase he wasnt near his friend, my shuffle?
00:48:27linuxstbGodEater: I remember Bagder (or someone) fixing that for the main download server - I guess it's not setup on the mirrors...
00:48:50Zdr*Mr. Shuffle
00:49:01GodEaterguess we'll need to check on that then
00:49:08 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out)
00:49:11bordyGodEater: friend of mine told m,e to check it out
00:49:20Reno666so...the bootloader loads rockbox on my ipod??? i'm confused.....
00:50:08Soul-SlayerThe bootloader sets up the DAP for usage with rockbo
00:50:11scorcheit will also load rockbox, but you will have an easier time using their loader
00:50:18Soul-SlayerAnd loads the firmware itself will also load ipl...
00:51:02Soul-SlayerHe was talking about the rockbox bootloader though was he not?
00:51:12scorcheyes, which will also load ipl..
00:51:18GodEatersort of
00:51:19Soul-SlayerOh, hawt.
00:51:30scorchehold play while booting
00:51:34GodEaterit's pretty basic compared to their loader though
00:51:59Reno666oh yeah but the problem is i cant instal their loader on my ipod beacause their loader is lame and it wont find my ipod. i've never had a hard time with rockbox but ipodlinux is really giving me a hard time.
00:52:17linuxstbInstalling the bootloader is trivial compared to installing the rest of IPL manually though...
00:52:18scorchethen go to them and whine about it and see if they have suggestions...
00:52:20GodEaterReno666: this isn't an ipodlinux support channel though
00:52:37Reno666i know sorry
00:52:47Reno666their channel doesnt work either
00:52:54scorcheit works just fine
00:52:55GodEateryes it does
00:52:55Reno666alteast not for me
00:52:55scorchei am in it
00:53:15Reno666are you using firefox?
00:53:22Reno666i am
00:53:28GodEaterReno666: use a proper IRC client
00:53:31GodEaternot a web browser
00:53:36tohtorijepis digital audio player the mp3-player you buy on a store or is it the player inside the player and you can change it? i'm confused: O
00:53:37scorchewhere are you accessing this channel from?
00:53:53GodEatertohtorijep: it's the collective name for all players you can buy
00:54:00Reno666it says firefox cannot load the page or something about protocal or i diont know?
00:54:03GodEatertohtorijep: like ipod, gigabeat, iriver
00:54:07scorchetohtorijep: DAP is the proper term for what many would call "an mp3 player"
00:54:08tohtorijepaaah okay
00:54:17Zdrf Apple
00:54:20scorcheReno666: then get a proper irc client like we said
00:54:20GodEaterReno666: AGAIN - USE A PROPER IRC CLIENT
00:54:23Zdrand their lame players
00:54:35Soul-SlayerZdr: And their huge market share
00:54:37*scorche escorts Zdr off of the soapbox
00:54:42tohtorijepokay so i cant do anything for that short battery life which comes with rockbox
00:54:43Soul-SlayerWhich they must have earnt somehow
00:55:05Zdrok so my real question, which is why i tried rockbox
00:55:09GodEatertohtorijep: other than buy something which doesn't have a portalplayer in it
00:55:12scorchetohtorijep: you can figure out what we need to do to correct that, make a patch, then submit it
00:55:17Zdrwhy cant i get the plaer to sort by directories
00:55:20Zdrand show the folders
00:55:20tohtorijepi thought DAP was the DIGITAL audio player inside the physical or something like that :D
00:55:26 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection)
00:55:30scorcheZdr: see the manual
00:55:34Zdrnot the individual artist?
00:55:40Zdri read through it 50 times
00:55:45Reno666a proper irc client? sorry i just know what irc stands for but thats about it i dont know anything about a irc client.
00:55:47Zdrthey is a directory sort just shows what is on the disk
00:55:56scorchethere is no directory sort
00:55:56GodEaterReno666: install XChat
00:56:01 Part bordy
00:56:08scorcheReno666: or use
00:56:16tohtorijepscorche, I bet there isnt any else solution than take some features away
00:56:28Reno666where can i find that? should i search on google?
00:56:28scorchetohtorijep: taking features away wont do it
00:56:31GodEatertohtorijep: I'd bet against you
00:56:33tohtorijepand that is what rockbox user dont want
00:56:34*mpeccorini uses HidraIRC and loves it
00:56:41GodEaterReno666: google's a good place to start
00:56:44tohtorijepokay :p
00:56:48GodEaterReno666: are you running windows ?
00:56:49tohtorijepi hope so too :)
00:57:20Zdrare any of you guys rockbox developers?
00:57:33scorchethere are plenty of devs in here..
00:58:03 Quit HellDragon2 ("i brb'd")
00:58:04Zdrhas a directory view been something you guys have been working on?
00:58:04Reno666i already use ircatwork yesterday thanks to my friend but i dont even know how to use that. i'm not good at computers or any of this stuff i was able to install rockbox thanks to the manual thats it.
00:58:15Reno666i had tio read it about 20 time though
00:58:17Soul-SlayerZdr: Please explain what you mean by Directory View
00:58:41scorcheReno666: type Reno666 in the first area, in the second, #ipodlinux in the third
00:58:43Zdrso when i goto my music on my comp, I see Music/artist/album/tracks
00:58:53Zdrthats how i have my music catalouge organized
00:58:54Soul-SlayerYou sure do.
00:58:59Soul-SlayerYou mean the database?
00:59:12Soul-SlayerSettings -> General -> Database -> Initialise Now
00:59:18Soul-SlayerThen you can use the database from the main menu
00:59:22Soul-SlayerAh right
00:59:26scorcheSoul-Slayer: he isnt talking about that
00:59:30Soul-SlayerJust copy it onto your 'pod like that then.
00:59:33Zdri did...
00:59:37Soul-SlayerAnd use the File Tree
00:59:49Zdrwheres file tree option?
00:59:54Soul-SlayerMain menu -> Files
01:00:00scorcheZdr: browse files
01:00:06 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> <- Organize your IRC")
01:00:15Zdri just have calender, notes
01:00:26scorchethat IS the file browser
01:00:37Soul-SlayerWhere did you copy the songs to?
01:00:40scorchethose are folders the original firmware puts on the device
01:00:52Soul-SlayerYou need to drag and drop them in Disk Mode onto your ipod in the format you'd like
01:00:59Zdrso I could just copy directly onto the devise my music library?
01:01:24Soul-Slayeritunes begone.
01:01:25Zdrwell, now i just need to figure out why it wont conecct to my computer
01:01:31Soul-SlayerYes, that would help
01:01:34scorcheZdr: are you using itunes?
01:01:39Reno666ok i have xchat install now how can i connect to the ipodlinux channel please?
01:01:42Zdrthat and winamp
01:01:46Zdrbut i see the light now
01:01:48scorcheReno666: read xchat's help
01:01:49Zdritunes is evil
01:02:03Reno666ok thanks
01:02:07Reno666: )
01:02:16Soul-SlayerProprietary software in general is evil imo
01:02:26scorchestop going on about that...
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01:02:53scorcheZdr: there is an option you have to check in itunes that will allow you to access the device as a for that option
01:02:55Zdris there a key combination on the ipod i can use to delete everything on it? without being connect to the computer
01:03:08Soul-SlayerZdr: No, that would be horrible, lol
01:03:15Soul-SlayerImagine doing it accidentally
01:03:27GodEaterSoul-Slayer: you can do it in rockbox....
01:03:29scorcheZdr: you will connect it to the computer anyway, so might as well get it over with now
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01:03:50Zdrwell i've had it work the past couple days and this morning when i woke up it's like, F you john, no music syncing today
01:03:53scorcheit isnt a key combination, but rockbox has a delete feature
01:04:31scorcheZdr: as i said..look for that option and check/uncheck it
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01:04:51Zdrin itunes?
01:05:23Reno666ok i only have about 15 minutes left then i have to leave can any help me please. PLEASE HELP?? : ) all i want to know is how i can connect to the ipl channel???
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01:05:31Zdrhow can i get to that step if XP wont even recognize it
01:05:33scorcheReno666: this is not an irc help channel
01:05:34Zdrit sees my shuffle
01:05:38Zdrjust not this thing
01:06:04 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit)
01:06:06scorcheZdr: what does the display on your ipod show when plugged in?
01:06:22Zdrok so the home screen
01:06:27Zdrwhen i connect it to the computer
01:06:29 Part mpeccorini
01:06:32Zdrthe screen backs out
01:06:44Zdrand u can see scan lines going across the text
01:06:45Reno666can you just please help me with that? just this once and i promise i wont comeback within about 30 days or something? PLEASE???? : )
01:06:48scorchei dont knwo what backs out mean....tell me what the device shows
01:06:54Mode"#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
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01:07:06Mode"#rockbox +b %Reno666!*@* " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
01:07:19***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
01:07:26Zdrso black out, then scan lines, then nothing
01:07:31Zdrno button response
01:07:36GodEaterReno666: No. Go read a tutorial
01:07:54Zdri have to plug it into AC wallcharger and that 'resets' it
01:08:12scorcheZdr: then it sounds liek something is wrong with your device from what you are describing
01:08:24Zdratleast the cable
01:08:32scorcheno...the device should never do that
01:08:37Zdrbut i cant imagine what and I fear taking it to the apple store
01:08:40Zdrbunch of savages
01:09:04Zdrthey'll charge me some rediculous amount
01:09:05scorcheif something was wrong with the cable it just wouldnt work right...not produce those kind of effects ont he device
01:09:19scorcheif you take it into a store, they will typically look at it for free
01:10:11scorcheReno666: sorry for not explaining this before, but you are muted...we cannot hear you...this will last for 10 min, so i would suggest that you use that time to read the guidelines or do whatever you will
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01:14:21tohtorijepis iriver a good dap? i was very close to buy one but then nano camed
01:14:31scorche"good" is very subjective...
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01:14:47GodEatertohtorijep: and depends on whcih iriver
01:14:52tohtorijepit just would be nice to hear some experiences
01:14:52GodEaterthey make a lot of different DAPS
01:15:06GodEaterI personally value my H140 over every other DAP I own
01:15:14GodEaterso in my opinion that makes it "good"
01:15:26tohtorijepwow you have many daps
01:15:36scorchemany people here do
01:15:38GodEaterI do
01:15:43GodEaternot as many as amiconn
01:15:44tohtorijepwas it h140 which i was close to buy... hard to remember
01:16:02GodEaterwho holds the record for rockboxable targets ?#
01:16:10*GodEater only owns 3
01:16:51GodEaterand having seen and got to play with a sansa today, I can firmly state I'm not going to bother buying one. It's bloody horrible.
01:17:32*scorche throws all the soapboxes into the closet and shuts the door
01:18:07*GodEater picks himself up off the floor where he fell
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01:23:51GodEaterI should probably get on with that favourites plugin
01:25:55saratogaGodEater: what was your complaint about the sansa?
01:26:05saratogai've found myself using it over the ipod and gigabeat lately
01:27:39GodEaterI don't like how the wheel protrudes up over the buttons
01:27:46GodEaterI find it makes it hard to press them
01:28:04GodEaterI have fat fingers though, so accept it might not bother everyone ;)
01:28:30saratogais there a performance hit to using floats in rockbox if I don't actually add or multiply them?
01:28:59saratogai've got a block of code here that depends on being able to parse out the exponents and mantissa of IEEE floats
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01:42:12pere__umm, hello, how do i create a wiki page?
01:42:52scorchetype in the name of the wikipage you want to create (properly formatted LikeThis) and it will say that that page doesnt exist and will give you an option to create it
01:44:16pere__scorche, ook, thanks
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01:46:02pere__is COBYInfo wrongly formated ? because the brand is capitalized
01:46:31scorchewhat is the full name of the device?
01:47:30pere__COBY MPC7085
01:47:35pere__all capitalized
01:47:46scorchejust name it CobyInfo
01:47:57pere__thought so
01:48:12scorcheand then you can make a note in the first sentence about the real name being capitalized, etc
01:48:56scorchealso, if you do CobyInfo, have you info under a section that says MPC7085, as coby makes more than one device
01:49:21pere__change topic? whats that?
01:50:05scorchewhere are you seeing that?
01:50:07pere__creating page... TWiki . Main . CobyInfo (edit)
01:50:07pere__Change topic
01:50:24pere__and a text scuare for editing
01:50:27scorchedont worry about that
01:50:34scorchejust the text square
01:50:59pere__but do i change anything at all?
01:51:16scorcheif you dont knwo how the wiki formatting works, i would suggest you read a few links si really quite simple though and the list at the bottom of the edit page should be enough
01:51:21scorchechange anything with what?
01:51:42scorchejust write in the text box and dont worry about the change topic link
01:52:00pere__nothing, just selected add, > none > and now just the blank page :)
01:54:40pere__ook, so %TOC% makes a table of contents of every −−++ title, right?
01:56:07tohtorijepthat looks really good
01:56:35scorchetohtorijep: please dont be offtopic in this channel...
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02:07:02pere__hehe, i cant seem to find the processor :p
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02:09:17BigMacStill not able to do anything in the xgl session
02:09:41pere__BigMac, do you mean in linux?
02:10:20BigMacpere__: Are you being condescending or serious?
02:10:41pere__serius... i mean, you did say xgl
02:10:54BigMacYes the xgl session does not work
02:11:01BigMacIt lags atrociously
02:11:05BigMacbut gnome works
02:11:06pere__but i think thats offtopic
02:11:45BigMaccrdlb left?
02:12:53scorcheit is offtopic...
02:12:59BigMacOH wooow
02:13:12BigMacI didn't realize what channel I was in
02:13:19BigMacI apologize
02:14:34pere__:P its ok, happens
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02:18:21pere__scorche, i got this ALi chip, but search only returns 3 dead players pages, you think its an mpx?
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02:25:11tohtorijepweird.. now this says "No file!" when i try to play songs in my pod
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02:27:22pere__tohtorijep: using tag cache?
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02:31:03tohtorijephow can i uninstall rockbox? i already removed folder .rockbox but it wasnt enough
02:32:21krazykitthat's strange. my gigabeat loses the time once in awhile, despite the battery being full. i can't reproduce the problem, though.
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02:37:30pere__krazykit: i get the same, i see in the wps the dat and time like ", :P"
02:37:45tohtorijephow can i remove the bootloader?
02:38:13pere__tohtorijep: why would yo want to do that?
02:38:42tohtorijepbecause i already removed .rockbox/
02:38:47tohtorijepand i want to reinstall it
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02:39:43pere__tohtorijep: ok so, the thing to do is to remove the rockbox FWMINGsomething 01 and puting the original one that you should have saved
02:40:03krazykitpere__, but setting it fixes it, right? you're not just using a broken theme?
02:40:06pere__scorche: how do i make anchor work?
02:40:27pere__krazykit: thats right
02:40:53pere__krazykit: one I inputed the time and date and the next time i power the time is gone
02:41:07pere__the tima and date are gone
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02:42:08pere__scorche: never mind
02:42:10tohtorijep"loading rockbox... Error! Cant load rockbox.ipod: File not found. Hold menu+select to reboot then select+play for disk mode"
02:42:11krazykiti wish i could reproduce the problem though. the best i can do is reproduce the conditions: letting the player shut itself off after playing a song.
02:42:21tohtorijepit says this when i removed the .rockbox/ directory
02:42:31tohtorijepso i want to remove the bootloader
02:42:35scorchetohtorijep: well, that is what it is saying...
02:42:43scorcheare you trying to uninstall rockbox?
02:43:08tohtorijepi want to reinstall it
02:43:16scorchere-install rockbox?
02:43:58scorchethen just do as the screen says and put a new .rockbox folder on
02:44:23pere__lol, tohtorijep : just erase .rockbox, download newest one, and place it like the older one
02:44:46tohtorijepok but i want to reinstall the bootloader too
02:44:53pere__in other words, replace .rockbox
02:45:07scorchetohtorijep: then just repeat the process in the manual
02:46:04pere__hehe I forgot this was not the gigabeat channel :p
02:46:11tohtorijepi used the svn
02:46:20tohtorijepso its not surprise that it doesnt work
02:47:06krazykitmore of a suprise that it didn't work, really.
02:48:11tohtorijep03:27 < pere__> tohtorijep: using tag cache?
02:48:13tohtorijepshoud i use it?
02:48:14pere__svn are more likely to have errors than the
02:48:27scorchepere__: ...huh?
02:48:34pere__tohtorijep: no, but i think you are usingit
02:48:56tohtorijepokay i check it
02:49:49pere__scorche: i use tag cache, and i cache my files, but when i erase a file, and tag cache hasnt updated it turns "File not found" and such
02:50:10scorchei was referring to the comment directly above mine
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02:50:40pere__svn is updated more than what anounces
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02:50:53scorcheno it isnt...
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02:51:16scorchenot about the actual rockbox builds
02:51:20pere__i mean, rockbox its built every X seconds
02:51:34scorcheno...rockbox is built on each commit
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02:51:50pere__didnt knew :)
02:52:13saratogawhen we send in a commit, theres actually a script that runs and updates everything, if you look just then you can see it running on the builds page
02:53:09saratogayaaahhhh i can decode 8 kbps WMA files
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02:55:20aliaskWho would encode at 8kbps :P
02:55:32aliaskIs it intelligible?
02:56:44pixelmathat's for the true BoS sound :P
02:56:49pere__I would if i had to put music in a diskette....i actualy did years ago
02:59:16saratogai only encoded a square wave
02:59:28saratogatheres some harmonic distortion, but it sounds more or less the same
02:59:55pere__hmm im still unable to know wether the ali is the cpu... or something else
03:02:01pixelmathe Iaudio X5 has an ALi chip - for USB otg - see
03:02:09tohtorijeppere__, should i always make "Update now" in settings - database when i have removed and added new files
03:02:29tohtorijepif i use id3tag cache
03:02:37pere__tohtorijep: i don't know, let me see my device
03:02:49tohtorijepwhat you do when it says "File not found"
03:03:14pere__tohtorijep: you should update
03:03:29tohtorijepyeah good...
03:03:48pere__well, then i remember if i did deleted, if not, just try again, probably the hard drive didnt see the file (i guess?)
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03:04:11krylonhow can i set up so rockbox randomly chooses a song from a random directory
03:05:16scorchekrylon: make a playlist of everything on your device and turn on shuffle
03:05:31pere__krylon: or just ramdomly push all buttons xd just kidding
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03:15:12krylonscorche whats the easiest way to do that
03:15:36scorchedo you have a music folder tht you put everything in?
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03:18:19saratogai'm listening to an 8kbps wma
03:18:23saratogait sounds almost like midi
03:19:12pere__saratoga: hahaha
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03:19:27saratogahmm maybe thats my decoder, the MS one sounds a lot better
03:19:31saratogaoh well, i'm going to bed
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03:46:30pere_damn, the original firmware if this coby is c-rap
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04:12:10Davide-NYCquick question: if I use a 4.5V DC-DC car charger for my H120 will I cause any damage to it? The wall adapter is rated for 5V. (sorry if this is a stupid question)
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04:13:47kkurbjunI am trying to figure out an appropriate header for a file in rockboy that is a rewite of the C++ code from VisualBoyAdvance (GPL) by myself, but also includes some of the original GNU boy code which did not have a copywrite assignment (licensed under the GPL though) or headers on the file.
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04:15:44kkurbjundoes something like this look appropriate?
04:16:48XavierGrDavide-NYC: it will most probably work
04:16:57XavierGrcheck the polarity and the amperage
04:17:04XavierGryou want more than 500 mah
04:17:34kkurbjunXavierGr, I have a new version of that rockboy soundpatch that changes quite a bit more, would you be able to test it on an H300?
04:18:25XavierGryes of course
04:18:51kkurbjunok, let me upload the newest version here
04:19:35XavierGrwhat is the improvement?
04:20:10kkurbjunit sounds more accurate on my gigabeat, it uses less memory as it removes some large lookup tables
04:20:31kkurbjunat least to my ears
04:20:33XavierGrso it may be faster?
04:21:05kkurbjunit's possible, I don't notice a difference on the gigabeat, but I am curious on the coldfire processors
04:21:15kkurbjunit definately leaves more room in iram though
04:21:27kkurbjunso it may be possible to optimize it better
04:21:38Davide-NYCXavierGr: how did the rtc-mod go?
04:21:46XavierGrGot it working in the end!
04:21:52XavierGrI am a happy man now :D
04:22:11XavierGrThe chip wasn't damaged by the reverse installation
04:22:35XavierGrso I tried it again installing it on the right side and it works
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04:22:59XavierGrWell I am grateful to bluebrother that sent me his spare DS3231c rtc chip
04:23:12mbishopIf a theme says "Any recent daily build" as a requirement, would a current build most likely be good enough?
04:23:13XavierGrnext I am going to try the USB charge mod on my H115
04:23:26XavierGrthough it seems very very difficult
04:23:38XavierGrthe pins on the BQ chip are tiny
04:27:46kkurbjunXavierGr, I just uploaded the latest version of the patch
04:28:38XavierGrok I will try to test it now, but I will do an extensive test tomorrow
04:28:45XavierGr5.30 am here :P
04:29:42kkurbjunouch, if you can just give me an initial comment that would be fine, I just want to make sure it doens't sound horrible or anything as SVN current does
04:30:07kkurbjunonce I have that I am just going to commit it unless it's really bad
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04:32:29XavierGrhmm on where should I apply it? i tried with various -p and it won't patch :\
04:32:43kkurbjunin the rockboy directory
04:32:59krylonscorche i put all my mp3s in root
04:33:06krylonin album folders
04:33:11kkurbjunsorry about that I wanted a quick patch that I didn't have to rip out all the other stuff I have
04:33:34XavierGrkkurbjun: are you on windows?
04:34:19linuxstbkkurbjun: Looking at your header, if it was me, I wouldn't put my own name as the main copyright holder - I would leave the original names there, and probably not even bother putting mine at all. Ot maybe say something like "Converted from C++ to plain C by [my name] [date]
04:34:25kkurbjunif you copy the file to the rockboy dir and try and apply the patch it should work
04:34:38XavierGrkkurbjun: yeah it worked
04:35:09kkurbjunlinuxstb, ok, sounds good, otherwise it looks ok though?
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04:37:35Davide-NYCXavierGr: Good luck with the USB charging mod. While you're at it, maybe you can figure out a good place to mount a serial port! ;-)
04:38:45kkurbjunlinuxstb, hows this?
04:38:48linuxstbkkurbjun: How much is your work, and how much is other people's? If it is mostly other people's, then you should probably keep the original header, rather than add a Rockbox one.
04:39:08kkurbjunit doesn't look much like either code anymore
04:39:24kkurbjunthere wasn't a header originally
04:39:35XavierGrDavide-NYC: what will be the gain from a serial port?
04:39:47kkurbjunand I didnt' think that the visualboy header was appropriate as it's not entirely their code
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04:40:15kkurbjunactually if I had to take a gues sI would figure that they used rockboy as a base for their initial code
04:40:30linuxstbkkurbjun: I think that as long as you mention the original authors, and that the original code was also GPL'd, then it's fine.
04:41:01linuxstbThey based it on rockboy? Or do you mean gnuboy?
04:41:07kkurbjunsorry, gnuboy
04:41:13kkurbjunI mixed them up
04:41:37kkurbjunthe code flow and design looks very similar
04:42:14Davide-NYCXavierGr: the possibility (in the future) to control the player from another unit (namely the sony car stereos that support unilink)
04:42:19linuxstbYour new header looks fine to me.
04:42:32kkurbjungreat, I'll use that then
04:43:04linuxstbIf you want a second opinion, Bagder may offer one.
04:43:33XavierGrkkurbjun: testing now
04:44:34kkurbjunI am pretty comfortable with the header I just wanted to make sure that I did it in a way that gave proper credit and was not perceived to step on anyones toes which I think that header does. I appreciate the feedback
04:45:12kkurbjunXavierGr, great, let me know how it goes
04:48:35XavierGrkkurbjun: 2-3 fps faster from svn and of course sound is much better
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04:48:52XavierGrthough I don't remember the previous patch to compare those 2
04:48:53BHSPitMonkeykkurbjun, where do I know your nick from?
04:49:02kkurbjungreat, I'll commit it
04:49:03XavierGrthe previous patch had good sound too
04:49:14kkurbjunI am on misticriver also
04:49:16BHSPitMonkeymaybe just from in here, long ago...
04:49:31kkurbjunyes, I did the original work on the doom port
04:49:34XavierGrBHSPitMonkey: He is the "doom guy" :D
04:49:43BHSPitMonkeyXavierGr, yeah, that does ring bells
04:49:51BHSPitMonkeyI remember when that was going on
04:50:07BHSPitMonkeyAny of you heard of / seen / used an Insignia mp3 player?
04:50:56BHSPitMonkeyGotta say, they're pretty nicely-done little flash-based dap's
04:52:11andrew__1I think I have heard of them
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04:53:25kkurbjunXavierGr, thanks for testing that, sorry to keep you up
04:53:43BHSPitMonkeyandrewg867, I think best buy pushed them
04:53:45BHSPitMonkeynot sure
04:53:58andrewg867we don't have Best Buy here ;)
04:54:28andrewg867I may have heard of them from walmart or futureshop, mose likely futureshop
04:54:30XavierGrkkurbjun: I just tested with the privous patch
04:54:37BHSPitMonkeyI know it has a tie-in with best buy's online music store, but it's not really a tie-in... the manual talks about it some, it comes on a CD, etc
04:54:48XavierGrkkurbjun: 1-2 fps faster and sound does indeed sounds better
04:55:01tohtorijeppls dont hilight
04:55:02kkurbjunthe latest patch is faster?
04:55:17kkurbjunor the old one?
04:55:30XavierGrthe latest
04:55:35andrewg867maybe it wasn't an mp3 player
04:55:47BHSPitMonkeybut the player itself is pretty unbounded; you just throw media files on its filesystem however you like, via USB mass storage, and it rebuilds a tag-browsing db internally
04:56:30BHSPitMonkeyand it plays ogg/vorbis, in addition to a bunch of proprietaries. and video, too.
04:56:43andrewg867oh wow
04:56:57BHSPitMonkeyand it's got a second headphone jack, which can either be used for a second listener or for recording
04:57:10XavierGrstill though poor H300 needs much more processing power to reach the playing level of Gigabeat
04:57:34XavierGrH300 has better button layout, gigabeat runs realtime, I guess you can't have them all :\
04:57:44andrewg867do you know what processor it has?
04:57:55kkurbjun:), the gigabeat isn't too bad with the rotated screen
04:58:24XavierGrtheoritically it can even do diagonals
04:58:31BHSPitMonkeythey also have a version with bluetooth, for bt headphones
04:58:38XavierGrbut you must have the hands of ET to manage to push 2 way directions
04:58:53kkurbjunhaha, true
04:59:01XavierGrkkurbjun: do you think that sound could be realtime on coldfire if somehow you disable graphics drawing?
04:59:18XavierGrin order to listen how it will sound on coldfire at full speed
05:00:03kkurbjunyou might be able to get proper sound on dr mario or something like that
05:00:28kkurbjunthe problem is that the cpu emulation code is just too slow as it is on the coldfire
05:00:39kkurbjuneven without drawing it's too slow
05:01:49XavierGrtoo bad...
05:02:07XavierGrI guess then we will never see realtime rockboy on coldfire
05:02:33kkurbjunIf someone works on it it's possible
05:02:55XavierGris there lots of room for optimization?
05:03:31kkurbjunyes, it could be improved significantly, it's just extremely timeconsuming work
05:03:56kkurbjunI wanted to profile the code a while ago, but I never could get the builtin profiler working
05:04:20kkurbjunthat could give some great clues on possible simpler areas to focus on first
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05:05:02XavierGrindeed, I hope I could help with it, but I don't even have a clue on optimizing things
05:05:21Kashmirhow do you get more music onto an ipod w/o installing itunes?
05:05:32XavierGrKashmir: with rockbox installed?
05:05:54XavierGryou just drag and drop your music on your ipod on any folder you like
05:06:28XavierGrthink of how you would add some files in you USB stick
05:06:48BHSPitMonkeyyeah... you'll probably want to organize it in some way you prefer
05:07:01Kashmirlol yea
05:07:05BHSPitMonkeylike, have a Music directory, containing directories for artists, etc
05:07:11BHSPitMonkeydon't lol me
05:07:19BHSPitMonkeythat was clearly necessary of me to tell you
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05:07:35BHSPitMonkeyvery elusive information
05:07:53Kashmirsry sir, don't hurt me
05:08:00BHSPitMonkeyno promises.
05:08:41Kashmirand how do you get album art working?
05:09:33XavierGryou have to know how to apply patches and compile the source
05:09:46XavierGrlook the rockbox wiki page for more info
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05:33:25d4rkmonkeyHey, can someone just tell me how to put music onto my 30GB iPod Video with rockbox?
05:39:55BHSPitMonkeyd4rkmonkey, just throw it on there.
05:40:06BHSPitMonkeyOrganize it in directories however you see fit.
05:40:20d4rkmonkeySo it doesn't matter where I put it?
05:40:48BHSPitMonkeyWell, it has to be on the iPod's hard drive.
05:40:58BHSPitMonkeyThat helps, you know.
05:41:23d4rkmonkeyThanks BHSPitMonkey :) thats what I thought but I wanted to make sure
05:41:53BHSPitMonkeyd4rkmonkey, no problem, but next time feel free to omit the "????????????"
05:42:26d4rkmonkeylol Was hoping that for some weird reason that would make someone come faster
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08:20:02SnakeAre there any suggestions to speed up rockboy on a ipod 5.5g?
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08:29:35perenevermind: howstuffworks :p
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09:59:58liberty____Seems today's iaudio M5 build is broken. The file size is sharply discreased.
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10:05:24pixelma_that's seems to be related to the failed rockboy commit... unfortunate time to build the daily (maybe there'll be other people coming in here with the same problem...)
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10:27:01JdGordonhey all
10:27:07JdGordonamiconn: you try the action stuff?
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10:35:15pixelmamarkun: around?
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10:44:37markunpixelma: yes
10:50:31markunare you? :)
10:51:00pixelmayes, again :)
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10:53:36JdGordonany h10 users?
10:55:16pixelmaI'm currently looking at the nimbus-19.bdf to fix a problem with the lowercase "a ring" but wondered about some missing glyphs (like e.g. paragraph)
10:57:26pixelma^markun: it looked to me that they are defined somehow but empty - could be that I'm only struggling with fontforge again thou
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11:28:07pixelmapondlife: re. your forum post - he already knows the bit about voice... that's why he does the battery benches (to see how much impact that has on battery life on Ipod Video)
11:28:17pondlifeAh, ok.
11:28:45pondlifeI'm trying to work on that bug at the moment.
11:30:32pixelmanice... he's a blind user and dependent on voice.
11:31:23pondlifeHmm, if I attempt to run any old builds (say rev 11000), it gives me an "I00: at FFFFFF00" error the moment I press a key...
11:32:15pondlifeThis is on H300. Any ideas?
11:32:31JdGordonhmm... rolo is fubar on the sansa!
11:34:49*pondlife tries svn up -r12000 instead
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11:52:13markunpixelma: could be, I haven't looked at the fonts for quite a while
11:52:41markunstill have some unfinished changes lying around somewhere
11:54:54pixelmajust committed the big change for the "a ring" ;)
11:56:52markunI'm not at home right now, maybe I can try to commit some changes when I get back after the weekend
12:01:41pixelmaI'm also searching for a different bdf editor - this one looks nice (but haven't tried yet)
12:04:05pixelmaoh... there are also some bdfs downloadable "for free" as he states...
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12:18:33pixelmathe atari-small font is from there, now I see
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12:45:39JdGordonping amiconn
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12:47:05pixelmaIIRC - he won't be around today
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12:51:20pixelmathat's what he said too :)
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13:12:01PaulJamHey, is dircache currently broken on H300?
13:12:35pixelmapetur reported that too yesterday
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13:45:55^Haggeman^Hi, is there a prebuilt image for Sansa with the modcodec included?
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13:56:45pixelmanot that I know of - but you can have a look at the "unsupported builds" forum. Maybe you'll find something there...
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14:25:50TiMiD[FD]PaulJam: what ?
14:25:57TiMiD[FD]a problem with dircache ?
14:27:03TiMiD[FD]what is the problem ?
14:27:04PaulJamTiMiD[FD]: yes, dircache is enabled but the disk still spins up in the filebrowser. according to the debug menu dircache is ready.
14:28:27PaulJam(on a H300 with r13950)
14:29:13TiMiD[FD]I've been having this problem for months but I thought I was the only one ...
14:29:33TiMiD[FD]maybe your problem is related to my yesterday's commit ?
14:30:53PaulJami can try the dayly build before the commit.
14:31:19TiMiD[FD]does the problem happens at every rebot ?
14:31:42TiMiD[FD]for me the problem I've have had for month only occurs one reboot on 2
14:31:59TiMiD[FD]I'll try the last build on my h100
14:35:42TiMiD[FD]hmmit seems that I have the same problem
14:36:15PaulJamwith the dayly build from jul. 20 the dircache works normally.
14:36:52TiMiD[FD]so it's my fault <_<
14:37:08TiMiD[FD]I'll fix it
14:37:22TiMiD[FD](I suppose)
14:39:01TiMiD[FD]but yesterday GodEater todl me it was working fine on gigabeat
14:39:43PaulJammybe it depends on the target
14:40:38TiMiD[FD]I would be very surprised it works on gigabeat and not on iriver
14:40:45TiMiD[FD]because they both have dircache
14:40:55TiMiD[FD]excepted if some magic is invoilved
14:42:03TiMiD[FD]vut first I have to eat and to rest a little bit from this busy day
14:45:38amiconnTiMiD[FD]: petur reported the same problem
14:45:47amiconnI didn't svn up yet because of that...
14:48:40TiMiD[FD]I'll fix it
14:50:46crwli think i've also had problems with dircache for quite a long time now (on h120)
14:50:52crwlbut haven't bothered to investigate
14:51:33TiMiD[FD]crwl: what kind of problem ?
14:51:36crwlheh, my build seems to be from March, maybe it's a time to upgrade
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14:52:02crwlTiMiD[FD], the disk spins up in file browser even if dircache is enabled
14:52:19TiMiD[FD]from march I've been having that kind of problem too
14:52:34crwlnot always, though
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14:52:59TiMiD[FD]that ?
14:55:33crwldoesn't seem to be that easily repeatable
14:55:49TiMiD[FD]well but something like tha ?
14:56:12crwli have a feeling that dircache always works after boot
14:56:27crwlbut when i've played some songs, it won't work anymore when i go to filebrowser and change songs
14:57:33crwli really haven't investigated, but i have
14:57:46crwli have *often* noticed, that i can't get to the filebrowser instantly
15:03:35JdGordonamiconn: hey
15:07:26PaulJamI think i have observed too that dircache sometimes stopped working during operation of the player, but it didn't happen often and i haven't found a way to reproduce this.
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15:09:34JdGordonok fine... any h10 users round?
15:09:59*Arathis reports
15:10:19JdGordoncan you test out a patch please?
15:10:47Arathismaybe ;)
15:10:50Arathiswhat is it?
15:11:27JdGordonfixes a problem with screens that say "press off to abort" or whatever the equiv is for h10
15:11:42JdGordonand the debug screens (audio screen ...)
15:11:54Arathisthink I can test that
15:12:13JdGordonactually... can anyone who is bored please check">
15:12:50JdGordonArathis: is that patch works, you should be able to leave the audio debug screen with the left button
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15:13:17Arathiswasn't that commited some days ago?
15:13:27JdGordoni dont think so
15:13:30JdGordondid I miss it?
15:13:37Arathisnot sure atm
15:14:08JdGordonit was... but there is a bigger problem which this fixes
15:14:17JdGordon... migt have to actually revert that fix to make sure this works
15:16:01JdGordonpatch updated
15:16:29JdGordonhmm... that was thououly pointless actually :p
15:16:36JdGordonplease leem know how it goes
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15:19:25ArathisJdGordon: my only problem is I can't build RB atm ..
15:19:59JdGordon5/6gb or 20gb model?
15:21:03amiconnhi JdGordon
15:21:13amiconnI didn't test my idea yet - too little time...
15:21:20JdGordoni tihnk you were right about the action thing
15:21:38JdGordonthe patch linked above is your idea and seems to work
15:22:03JdGordoni modifeid the e200 keymap to the same as h10 and i think its fine
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15:22:11ArathisJdGordon: 20gb
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15:22:39JdGordon(did that for someone else a while ago :) )
15:23:46amiconnArathis: Could you check something for me the next time your H10 freezes?
15:24:09amiconnI want to make sure the kind of freeze is the same thing I am observing
15:24:36ArathisI'M not using the player very much the last days, but I could let it play without heering. So what to check than?
15:25:24amiconnIf it freezes, try to read the display (it is readable even without backlight in bright enough, directed light)
15:26:01amiconnWhat I am observing is that it is *not* a simple freeze. The display shows a blurred afterimage of what was displayed before (i.e. the wps),
15:26:15amiconnoverlaid with 2 lines of small letter text at the top
15:26:30ArathisI could also let the backlight on all time. It once froze while the light was on and it stayed on after the freeze
15:26:31amiconnTry to decipher this text if possible.
15:26:58amiconnI am getting an undefined instruction exception
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15:27:44ArathisJdGordon: so, what should be possible with the patch besides leaving the audio thread?
15:27:55amiconnI wonder why that happens though, as the cpu is the same as in the ipod mini 1st gen which never crashed like this after my fixes
15:28:14amiconnJdGordon: Do you also have the .map file of this build by chance?
15:28:23JdGordonArathis: im not really sure, amiconn knows the problem more than me...
15:28:29JdGordonamiconn: yeah 1 sec, ill put it up
15:28:30amiconnIf so, Arathis could run 2 tests in one">
15:29:19JdGordonArathis: ca you naviagte the menusa dn settings correctly?
15:29:22amiconnArathis: If you run the freeze test with JdGordon's build, and then tell me the address (2nd line of the error message), I can check whether it's exactly the same thing or not
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15:29:45JdGordonleaving a setting screen puts you in the expected menu, doesnt jump one menu back?
15:30:39*amiconn will install the same build
15:31:57ArathisJdGordon: I can navigate as normal. one by one menu
15:32:17Arathisamiconn: should I use the default settings or my normal settings?
15:32:30JdGordonsettings shouldnt matter
15:32:40amiconnUse what you like. I don't think it's settings dependent
15:33:13Arathislooking at all the people having the freezes it shouldn't be. ^^
15:33:52amiconnIt always takes a while until it freezes
15:34:16amiconnI observed 20..30 minutes - *if* it happens at all
15:36:09JdGordondid I misunderstand the bug?
15:36:14ArathisJdGordon: I'm experiencing something here. If I for example go to the playback settings menu and than into shuffle the first keypress doesn't do anything. the player won't react to it.same when I go back to he playback settings menu and try to leave it with <-
15:36:18JdGordonthis isnt related tot he segfault in the sim is it?
15:36:25*amiconn didn't check it's a 20gb build
15:36:40JdGordonyes, 20gb
15:36:45*amiconn wonders why the bootloader didn't reject it
15:36:47Arathisamiconn: I had a freeze after some seconds one time
15:37:00amiconnLooks really funny...
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15:38:36JdGordonArathis: thanks, same thing happens on my sansa...
15:38:54amiconnThat must be a different thing then
15:39:03amiconnClock scaling isn't enabled for sansa atm
15:39:30JdGordonno, i modified my sansa keymap to test
15:39:31amiconn(because of the clicks due to slow cache flushes delaying fiq too much)
15:39:34JdGordoncompiling the sim now
15:40:18JdGordonyep, its eating the first press
15:40:20amiconnThe action code should never ignore presses, only releases or repeats
15:40:39amiconnAnd the latter only if they happen in a changed context
15:40:51amiconnBut maybe I am missing something here...
15:41:45JdGordonyeah, /me blames this on me being sick :p
15:42:19JdGordonfixed, ill up the fixed diff in a sec
15:42:58JdGordonlink updated
15:43:05JdGordonyou want the mi4 also?
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15:45:07Arathiswhat for a new BL?
15:45:24Arathisbtw: test started :)
15:46:17JdGordontest started with which build? I replaced the .map so can you start it again with that linked mi4?
15:47:14Arathiswith your build bt with the old mi4
15:47:36Arathiswhat did you change in the .map?
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15:51:49ArathisJdGordon: ?
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15:52:43JdGordonArathis: just copy the rockbox.mi4 linked above into .rockbox and restart the test... the .map is a generated file based on the compile
15:53:23Arathisoh, navigating works correctly again
15:54:18Arathistest started again
15:58:23JdGordonwow, only 75 calls to action_signalscreenchange needed removing, that felt like hundreds :p
15:59:25JdGordonamiconn: full diff is at"> if you want to comit it, im goign to bed in a few min
16:01:51PaulJamJdGordon: just out of curiosity: when you implemented the foregroundcoulour for the inbuilt icons, why did you only change the colour of half of the icons?
16:02:14JdGordoni changed it on all of them didnt I?
16:03:36JdGordonhaha, what the heck?
16:03:37PaulJamthe first 11.8 icons are still black.
16:04:46JdGordon11.8? the 12th icon is only 0.2 coloured correctly?
16:05:32JdGordonit must have been the zoom level and I didnt even realise... fixing now
16:05:43daurnimatorhi all
16:06:31TiMiD[FD]does someone know what include is required to know wether HAVE_DIRCACHE is defined or not ?
16:06:48TiMiD[FD]config.h ?
16:07:12JdGordonyes, config.
16:07:19JdGordonPaulJam: fixed
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16:08:14SnakeAny tips on how to speed up rockboy?
16:08:18PaulJamthanks :)
16:08:24Snakeor perhaps a better way to emulate gameboy?
16:08:46JdGordonSnake: buy a gameboy?
16:09:18PaulJamSnake: i think i heard that the ipodlinux gameboyemulator has better performance.
16:09:58SnakeJdGordon: I already have enough to carry around im afraid (iPod, Camera, 2 cellphones and a wallet)
16:10:03SnakeI dont have room for a gameboy :P
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16:13:12SnakeIt looks like iboy and rockboy are my only options :(
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16:23:05TiMiD[FD]dircache fixed on my h100 at least
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16:25:52Arathiswohoo, freeze :D
16:26:20Arathisamiconn: Undefinded instruction at 00058FA8
16:26:48ArathisI'll run a second test to see if the adress changes
16:27:42Arathisoh, and just the wps without any data was shown with the error msg on top
16:27:57Arathisthe wps background image in fact
16:28:04krazykitSnake, sounds like you need a purse.
16:28:20TiMiD[FD]hah fun
16:28:34TiMiD[FD]I got a freeze in the train this afternoon too
16:28:41JdGordonArathis: your sure thats the correct address?
16:28:56Arathischecked it twice
16:29:13TiMiD[FD]I was going to see my date and the first thing I asked her was "ermm do you have a needle aor a sharp pen"
16:29:38TiMiD[FD]</my life>
16:30:26PaulJamNormalyy when i get a freeze that shows an error message it is sufficient to press the play button to reset the player (h300)
16:30:35TiMiD[FD]oh ?
16:30:37TiMiD[FD]really ?
16:30:45TiMiD[FD]I thought you needed a needle ..
16:30:52TiMiD[FD]I'll test
16:31:13TiMiD[FD]running mpegplayer on the h100 makes the player freeze
16:31:22TiMiD[FD]very convenient
16:31:32TiMiD[FD]if you have some freeze test to run ...
16:32:08TiMiD[FD]ahh !! no way it works again
16:32:25TiMiD[FD]someone reduced the main stack usage in some way
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16:44:49TiMiD[FD]does anyone knows a user space fat reader ?
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16:47:10Arathisamiconn, JdGordon: second freeze, again 00058FA8
16:49:22TiMiD[FD]markun: thank you
16:49:45ArathisJdGordon: shall I make a photo of the player to proof me right? ;)
16:49:52JdGordonno, i belive you
16:50:27JdGordonI was expecting the number to be in the area of the action code, thats in the hardware area, so its up to amiconn to figure out...
16:50:38JdGordonno nasty surprises with the buttons ?
16:51:34JdGordonlast call before bed to get ppl to test"> look out for eatn buttons, or screens which are being skipped, or similar.. ill read the logs tomorow
16:51:37JdGordongnite all
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16:51:48ArathisI just played music. no further button pressing
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17:03:16PaulJampropably not rockbox related, but does somebody know why my h300 doesn't always power on when i connect the usb cable? i either have to press PLAY or wait a random amount of time (up to 10 minutes).
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17:13:55amiconnArathis: Thanks for testing. The address is _very_ slightly different from what I am getting, but that's probably due to H10 20GB<->H10 6GB differences
17:14:38amiconnFor my version, I figured out the spot in the code where it crashes
17:14:59amiconnIt does have to do with clock change, but I don't yet understand why it crashes there
17:15:39amiconnI'll have to dive into H10 OF disassembly :/
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17:30:16ZsanHi guys
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17:32:12ZsanHm, it seems I have a question
17:32:41ZsanWhy do iPods when running RB not seem to recognize the Apple charger as a charger when they do charge?
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18:12:28bordyhey gents. So I installed rockbox (thanks for the help yesterday) and I can't see my music... raises a strange question, do I have to have it in two directories, so I can see it in both rockbox and the native ipod area too?
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18:16:04PaulJam_bordy: search for Database in the manual
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18:16:36bordyPaulJam_: interestingly (or embarassingly) enough I think I had just figured out my issue right before you said that ;)
18:16:39bordyand you beat me to the punch
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18:49:30bordygrrr... I created a directory for movies, and put two m4v's in there, but they dont show up under files in rockbox. Nor do my playlists, for some reason. Any advice?
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18:50:31Kasperlemaybe it's because rockbox doesn't play m4v. or does it?
18:50:52Kasperlein one of the settings menus you can tell rockbox which file types you want it to display
18:51:05Kasperlee.g. known or supported files, or all files
18:52:52bluebrotherRockbox only plays mpeg2 movies.
18:53:01bluebrotherread the PluginMpegplayer wiki page.
18:53:15bordyI am havin a hard enough time switching the AVIs to M4V! lol
18:53:20bordywill do, bluebrother. thankee
18:53:29bluebrotherand playlists need to be in m3u / m3u8 format.
18:53:54bordyhow would I go about doin that? Actually now that I think about it all I have are my amaroK playlists.
18:55:39bluebrotherwell, what formats are the playlists in?
18:55:51bluebrothernever tried to sync amarok playlists to the player ...
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18:56:33bluebrotheryou can at least manually save playlists as m3u. No idea how it behaves upon syncing.
18:57:03bluebrotherbut I could imagine it syncs to the itunesdb if you configured to use the Ipod sync plugin.
19:00:48bordygrr, this is killin me. lol
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19:07:23PaulJam_hmm, shouldn't the simulator have the same volume range like the real target? on the h300 sim it goes from -40 to +6. i dont think it was always like that.
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19:15:59markunTiMiD[FD]: ah. good to hear. I've never used mtools myself, just remembered the name.
19:16:53kkurbjuntoffe82, I finally updated the gigabeat jtag info
19:17:04pere__anyone knows what pl TLD stands for?
19:17:19kkurbjunand put up the patch for openocd so that you can write to flash from it
19:17:27markunpere__: poland?
19:18:03kkurbjunthe new config file that is there should allow you to access the flash from openocd while rockbox is running also, the old configuration was only useful before the mmu was turned on
19:18:28pere__markun: maybe, im trying to investigate about the posible prossesor, but ony about 10 pages are found with that model u.u
19:26:11markunpere__: which model do you mean?
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19:29:44toffe82kkurbjun: I saw the update, but for the moment I am a little out :) too much work
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19:33:59kkurbjunI gotcha, I'm still working on getting the flash plugin put into the tracker, right now it rewrites the whole flash and I would like to get it down so that only sections of the device are erased and flashed as needed
19:34:08markuntoffe82: anything you can do for this guy?
19:34:32kkurbjunplus there's still quite a bit of work that needs to be done in terms of the boot process
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19:43:10markunSlasheri: did you ever have a commit which reduced binary size?
19:43:57Slasheriouch, it did have a small impact to the binary size..
19:44:04*Slasheri hides from amiconn :)
19:44:59daurnimatorhi markun
19:47:27tohtorijepdoes anybody use ubuntu and know how to get computer sending data to _automatically_ when rockbox is pluged in? at least ubuntu knows how to mount automatically...
19:48:01pere__tohtorijep: maybe a script?
19:48:16daurnimatortohtorijep: sorry, I don't use unbuntu, or linux.... or even rockbox :P
19:49:00tohtorijeppere__, I'm not so good at coding or linux that I could make a script
19:49:39tohtorijepi dont even know which program handles the automatic mounting
19:49:46tohtorijepso it would be hard to make a script
19:54:23pere__tohtorijep: let me investigate ;)
19:54:31toffe82markun: I don't have any spare lcd working, I have only 2 F10 working
19:54:57tohtorijeppere__, i let!!!! :D
19:55:39pere__tohtorijep: you use gnome, i suppose?
19:57:38tohtorijepubuntu=gnome+ubuntu, kubuntu=kde+ubuntu, xubuntu=xfce+ubuntu
19:58:46Bjoern-Eriknot necessarily
19:59:16daurnimatoredubuntu = ?
20:01:12daurnimatorthen there is fluxbuntu
20:01:19daurnimatorand gobuntu
20:02:32pere__tohtorijep: when you connect the player, does the icon shows as a drive or a player?
20:02:56tohtorijepyes.. a player
20:03:15daurnimatortohtorijep: gobuntu is a version of ubuntu with absolutely NOTHING propriety
20:03:32tohtorijeppere__, thanks a lot for helping me :)
20:04:53pere__ok, look, there is a programm to manage gnome-volume-manager , but first we need the script, ill see what i can do
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20:05:32tohtorijepwow :o i didnt expect that program to be the right one
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20:06:36pere__tohtorijep: no, that program just mounts, gnome-volume-properties is the one we need :p
20:06:54tohtorijepokay :)
20:08:02tohtorijepi have the script that sends the data
20:08:21pere__does any body kows how the thing on rockbox works?
20:08:28tohtorijepi just type 'update-lastfm' and it sends the data
20:08:31pere__perfect, let me see it
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20:08:57pere__:p just run gnome-volume-properties
20:09:01Camhey can anyone help me with a simple question
20:09:22pere__tohtorijep: go to "multimedia" > Portable music players
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20:09:29tohtorijeppere__, it doesnt work.. i have tried to put it there
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20:09:54tohtorijepit is meant for music player
20:10:16pere__tohtorijep: where is the script located?
20:10:21tohtorijepif you delete the setting on "PLay music files when connected" the command line goes inactive
20:10:45pere__no, dont delete that, dont unselect it
20:10:50tohtorijepthe script is rockscrobbler
20:11:08tohtorijepi havent
20:11:12pere__didnt you said it was update-lastfm?
20:11:14tohtorijepput it still doesnt work
20:11:20tohtorijepi made my own script
20:11:49tohtorijepcd /home/tohtorijep/.rockscrobbler/
20:12:02tohtorijepthat is the script
20:12:13tohtorijepits located in /usr/bin
20:13:49PaulJam_Cam: just ask
20:14:58Camo ok xD..Well im Japanese, and i have a lot of Japanese music...but it appears as a box, and not as the Katakana
20:15:06tohtorijeppere__, do you know where could i find the log for gnome-volume-properties?
20:15:12Camhow to i load, or can i load a language pack?
20:15:20tohtorijeppere__, i mean that how i could see why it doesnt work
20:15:20pere__tohtorijep: i dont know,
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20:15:33PaulJam_Cam: do you have the additional fonts installed?
20:15:35tohtorijepbut i bet it is just for music players
20:15:36pere__but if i could see you bat script i could solve the problem
20:16:21Camno, i just load the rockbox
20:16:34Camhow do i load the new font
20:16:35PaulJam_Cam: choose a font that supports your language. for example unifont
20:17:25PaulJam_Cam: download the fonts here:
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20:17:43Camwhere do i extract the file to
20:17:46PaulJam_just extract the zip to the root of your player
20:17:47bluebrotherCam: please check the installation section of the manual
20:17:52bluebrotherit's all explained there.
20:18:10bluebrotherincluding hyperlinks to the required downloads ...
20:18:21Camok thanks
20:18:28tohtorijeppere__, i pmd you
20:18:50Camand another question...i am think of gettin the Current build for my mp3 player, if i do this, does it erase my music?
20:18:52tohtorijeppere__, okay it didnt work because i havent registered
20:19:24pere__tohtorijep: lest go #tohpe ok?
20:19:27Camok thanks
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20:34:46XavierGrbluebrother: RTC mod works excellent, thanks again! :D
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20:39:12bluebrotherXavierGr: great to hear.
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20:42:36Camhi, i just installed the newest current build and it locked up my MP3 player, i entered recovery mode, and i am going to revert to the older do i find it?
20:43:20bluebrotherfollow the "archived builds" link on the download page
20:44:49Camok thanks
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20:52:27Camum i have download and installed the newest, and a older version...and everytime i boot up now, it freezes
20:52:46Camcan someone go through the installation process?
20:53:09Cami look at the manual, but i do not understand very well
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21:00:23tohtorijeppere__, lol.. no it worked when i put "#!/bin/sh" line at the beginning of the shell script 'update-lastfm' and put the whole path to gnome-volume-properties '/usr/bin/update-lastfm'.. weird!
21:00:52tohtorijepbut it didnt work properly
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21:01:06tohtorijepit sent only one song even though i listened 5
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21:01:49PaulJam_Can someone tell me what values each dot on the peakmeter scale represents? i know this was documented somewhere, but i cant find it anymore.
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21:03:32PaulJam_nevermind, i found it.
21:04:10pere__tohtorijep: :P
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21:41:53tohtorijeppere__, yeahh it works now.. i just had to add the full path.. thanks for helping me!
21:42:07pere__:p your wellcome
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22:11:04pere__anyone interested in a coby (ipodnano like) player?
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22:14:35SnakeIs there any simple way to add all the songs in my library to a playlist?
22:14:45Snakeor will it have to "search" them each time?
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22:16:18mbishopSnake: I believe playing "All songs" will make a playlist of...all the songs :P
22:18:18Snakembishop: yeah but every time I do that it says "Searching found 5,039 songs"
22:18:29Snakeand it like has to load every single song (which obviously takes foreverr)
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22:20:25Snakemeh i gotta go get dinner, ill be back latre
22:23:29Robin0800Snake,I use a computer and foobar 2000 very quick system
22:24:24Robin0800Snake,just load all your songs and make a playlist
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22:37:45SnakeRobin0800: thats basically what I just did, I didnt realize that it just used standard m3us
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22:49:06pere__lol i screwed up badly my player xo
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22:52:46Febspere__: what did you do?
22:53:06pere__Febs: I was looking at the board :p
22:53:43pere__Febs: Now tactile buttons are non responsive u.u , i guess ill let someone handle the port, or simply forget about it
22:54:24Snakepere__: what kind of player is it??
22:55:24pere__Febs: its not rockboxed yet, coby mpc 7085
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22:56:22BHSPitMonkeypere__, trying to rockbox it?
22:56:43BHSPitMonkeyno board scans on the web? :P
22:56:52pere__i did them already
22:57:15BHSPitMonkeywouldn't it be handy to have an x-ray sometimes
22:57:16Snakepere__: what kind of hardware is it running? I cant find any info on it
22:57:47Snakeno cpu??
22:57:52Snakepere__: thats.. impossible?
22:59:57Snakepere__: I think thats the processor (the ALi) ali is acer labs
23:00:55pere__Snake: me neither :D the cpu appears as ALi
23:00:55pere__Snake: I know, i thought i diidn't saw it, but its that Ali m5661r b1, i think its the only one in the world hehe
23:01:03pere__Snake: realy??? i thougth ... damn... ill check :P thanks linuxstb
23:01:46Snakepere__: that is def acer labs supplied, not sure if its the processor though, but thats what the specialize in
23:02:14pere__hoho, i search arec labs and got
23:03:10Snakepere__: yeah that peticualler chip isnt on their products page though
23:03:29pere__Snake: yup u.u i guess its a no go
23:03:56Snakepere__: well I know it came from them, just gotta figure out what its used for now ;)
23:07:37Snakepere__: thats the processor
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23:08:02SnakeThe chip is the free encyclopedia from Taiwan Semiconductor Corporation (Ali) generation, is the main interface of USB 2.0 + Flash Disk MP3 control chip can be used for U + MP3 disc player and other solutions. 同时还具有OTG、高性能、高度集成化、功能丰富等特点。Also have OTG, high-performance, highly integrated, feature rich features.
23:08:11SnakeIts rough, but that sounds like a CPU to me
23:08:33Bagderthe X5 has a usbotg chip from ali, iirc
23:13:43SnakeHow come the ipod port doesnt use the ipods second cpu at all?
23:16:13Su8l1meWho said it didn't ?
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23:17:04SnakeGodEater: ummm 3/4s of the rockbox docs
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23:17:25GodEaterrockbox docs refer to it as the COP
23:17:34GodEaterand it's used it since like December I think
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23:20:15pere__Snake: thanks :D
23:21:49linuxstbSnake: Are you talking about the second ARM CPU core (present in all ipods), or the ipod video's Broadcom video processor?
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23:22:18pere__Snake: it seems it also has the same memory
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23:23:00Snakelinuxstb: the second arm chip
23:23:09Snakethough if we could start using the broadcom thatd be nice too :P
23:23:26linuxstbmpegplayer uses it, but the rest of Rockbox doesn't yet.
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23:23:37linuxstb(the second arm core)
23:24:19tumuwhat's with the metadata code using the path field for temp storage?
23:24:37Snakewell im outa here
23:24:40Snakecya guys
23:25:15linuxstbtumu: Because it's there...
23:25:40tumuis malloc forbidden there?
23:25:48linuxstbWhat malloc?
23:26:05tumuno any other storage available?
23:26:33linuxstbYou could use the stack, but it's only about 8KB, so you need to be careful.
23:27:27linuxstbAnd even though the codecs have a very simple malloc available, it's desirable not to use it.
23:27:42tumuya, figured it out
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23:32:39tumuwriting a metadata parser for modules could be an issue..
23:32:53tumuatleast using dumb's internal routines
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23:33:34tumuwould have to write own minimal parser for each supported format
23:34:39linuxstbHow many formats are we talking about?
23:36:10linuxstbThat doesn't sound too bad.
23:36:27tumuno, but dumb already has parsers for those
23:37:33tumubut as they're mixed in with rest of the player code, it's a mess
23:37:52tumuit parses the module data at the same time as the meta
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23:38:07tumuthey're not seperate
23:38:40linuxstbThat's normal - which is why all (afaik) the other parsers were also written from scratch.
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23:43:36dnanarhi all !
23:44:00tumui guess i just have to bite the bullet on writing the metaparser
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23:44:45tumubut that path abuse isn't exactly good practise
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23:45:01tumuwho knows where it might get stored one day
23:47:36linuxstbYes, using the stack (with restraint) is probably a better idea.
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23:48:24dnanari'm looking for the cheapest portable player supported by rockbox, with, at least 15GB memory. I'm trying to google through the model given on the homepage of rockbox, but some of the products (a lot of in fact) are dicontinued. Anybody has got a more up to date list or has got some advice to know which portable music player should i use please ? :)
23:48:59linuxstbHave you seen the BuyersGuide wiki page? That has approximate prices.
23:50:13linuxstbAlso, are you looking for a brand new player, or are you happy with a used model?
23:51:06dnanarthanks for the wiki page
23:51:30dnanar Also, are you looking for a brand new player, or are you happy with a used model? > well it doesn't matter. all that i would like is a shop in europe :)
23:53:52linuxstbThe Gigabeat F series (F10/F20/F40/F60) are relatively cheap - you can probably find one for less than 100 EUR on ebay.
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