| 00:02:52 | * | amiconn likes all-green delta lines :) |
| 00:03:15 | ToHellWithGA | from what to what does that DAC go? |
| 00:03:48 | ToHellWithGA | could it not be coerced into outputting rather step-ish output? |
| 00:03:52 | petur | controller -> DAC -> audio amplifier |
| 00:04:36 | petur | ToHellWithGA: go join those guys that think they can send a tv signal through it... |
| 00:04:55 | ToHellWithGA | petur: i don't know how, it just seems like the driver level is plenty loud |
| 00:04:56 | amiconn | ToHellWithGA: even if it can, it would be totally unable to send the required frequencies for s/pdif |
| 00:05:10 | amiconn | (which lie in the MHz range) |
| 00:05:14 | ToHellWithGA | that's a much more practical outlook. bummer that |
| 00:05:37 | ToHellWithGA | i didn't realize s/pdif was so bit-hungry |
| 00:05:46 | amiconn | Same goes for tv out via an audio dac. Just forget it |
| 00:05:52 | ToHellWithGA | i assumed it was roughly on the same complexity as PCM |
| 00:06:04 | amiconn | s/pdif _is_ pcm |
| 00:06:27 | amiconn | But it is a serial signal, meaning it is sent bit by bit |
| 00:06:50 | amiconn | ...and it sends 32 bits for each sample, regardless of how many are used |
| 00:07:05 | ToHellWithGA | so it's 44,100 samples, 16 bits each, 2 channels each second. that's 14 million bits |
| 00:07:13 | ToHellWithGA | or perhaps 1.4 million |
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| 00:07:19 | amiconn | So you need to send 2*44100*32 bits per second |
| 00:07:21 | ToHellWithGA | still, that is bigger than i had thought |
| 00:07:50 | amiconn | ...which is 2.8 million bits/second |
| 00:08:04 | ToHellWithGA | sorry, why is it 2*32? |
| 00:08:13 | amiconn | [00:06:48] <amiconn> ...and it sends 32 bits for each sample, regardless of how many are used |
| 00:08:15 | ToHellWithGA | b/c the chip accepts up to 32 bits per sample? |
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| 00:08:45 | ToHellWithGA | .me is so glad he went mechanical engineering instead of computer/electrical engineering |
| 00:08:56 | ToHellWithGA | chips are tricky little buggers |
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| 00:15:26 | amiconn | hmmm |
| 00:15:47 | * | amiconn ponders removing the X5 specific code, and replace it with a generic implementation |
| 00:16:14 | amiconn | But *imo* the backlight should never be enabled if the user has disabled it, even not on shutdown |
| 00:16:22 | amiconn | On X5 this does happen atm |
| 00:16:34 | Bagder | generic is good |
| 00:17:09 | petur | anybody familiar with oldmenuapi.c in the pluginlib? Would it be ok to trap SYS_POWEROFF in the loop to make it quit the menu? |
| 00:17:21 | amiconn | I need generic code to stop the backlight thread from messing with the backlight anyway |
| 00:17:47 | amiconn | (in order to implement suspend, and it must be reversible so killing the thread is a no-no |
| 00:18:05 | * | Domonoky just commited uninstallation for rbutilQt :-) |
| 00:18:18 | rasher | Bagder: fixed?! |
| 00:18:26 | Bagder | seems fixed to me |
| 00:18:27 | amiconn | I would think backlight should be enabled with no timeout on shutdown, unless the user has disabled it completely (in the current state) |
| 00:18:43 | amiconn | The actual power cut will switch it off |
| 00:18:43 | Bagder | I could load and use svenska fine |
| 00:18:52 | Llorean | amiconn: Sounds reasonable to me |
| 00:19:14 | Llorean | I get irritated on my Gigabeat as my timeout is about 1 second shorter than the actual shutdown. |
| 00:19:16 | amiconn | And suspend will do the opposite: disable backlight and keep it of until the wakeup message arrives |
| 00:19:24 | Llorean | So when restarting I try to turn it on, and see the shutting down splash |
| 00:19:50 | petur | amiconn: while you're in the backlight code: on h300 (at least) it acs strange on powerdown: light goes out and then flashes again shortly. |
| 00:20:03 | petur | s/acs/acts |
| 00:20:23 | amiconn | I guess that's an lcd effect. I've seen that on other targets too |
| 00:20:45 | rasher | Bagder: still something fishy going on: $ ../../tools/genlang -o -t=h120:agc:backlight_fade:dircache:hold_button:lcd_bitmap:lcd_non-mono:lcd_flip:lcd_invert:pitchscreen:quickscreen:radio:recording:recording_swcodec:remote:remote_ticking:spdif_power:swcodec:tagcache:tc_ramcache:charging -e=english.lang dansk.lang |grep -c LANG_SET_BOOL_YES |
| 00:20:50 | rasher | 192 |
| 00:21:26 | petur | amiconn: I remember it behaving well before the shutdown callback was implemented |
| 00:21:28 | Bagder | yes, that one isn't fixed |
| 00:21:30 | rasher | Unrelated, I guess, but I was assuming it was the same thing |
| 00:21:36 | rasher | Fair enough |
| 00:22:06 | Bagder | rasher: please submit a bug report and I'll deal with it soonish |
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| 00:22:29 | rasher | Bagder: can do |
| 00:22:50 | rasher | Bagder: do you need any additional information, or just a reminder that something's up |
| 00:23:08 | Bagder | just a reminder, that command line you pasted here is fine to include |
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| 00:25:50 | rasher | Bagder: FS #7576 |
| 00:25:58 | WGC | Ugh, T-storm |
| 00:26:11 | Bagder | thanks |
| 00:27:30 | WGC | What's Coldfire? |
| 00:28:04 | petur | wikipedia it |
| 00:28:33 | petur | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldfire |
| 00:28:51 | WGC | It's a book or a 68k microprocessor |
| 00:29:15 | petur | huh? |
| 00:29:42 | petur | the link I gave says it's a microprocessor |
| 00:29:48 | WGC | I thought 68k was basically dead. |
| 00:30:07 | petur | it's used inside iriver h1x0/h3x0 and iaudio's |
| 00:30:36 | WGC | ahh |
| 00:31:07 | petur | dead? no way, even z80 still lives on |
| 00:31:24 | WGC | This might be off topic, but is GRC's Shields Up! test reliable? |
| 00:31:37 | scorche | it is off topic... |
| 00:31:40 | Llorean | This is an on-topic channel |
| 00:31:44 | WGC | sorry |
| 00:31:54 | * | petur polishes the topic |
| 00:32:06 | WGC | Maybe not dead but not widely used. |
| 00:32:35 | Bagder | WGC: you have a big insight into the embedded world? |
| 00:32:37 | scorche | amiconn: how does one tell the difference between the "next gen" NiMH or however you call them and the "old" ones? |
| 00:33:03 | WGC | I don't touch small devices, I'm afraid about hurting them. |
| 00:33:22 | WGC | I only think about PCs. |
| 00:33:26 | Bagder | WGC: so how can you tell things about their internals like if they're dead or not widely used? |
| 00:33:53 | WGC | Among PCs I haven't heard about many PCs using 68k and the z80. |
| 00:34:00 | amiconn | scorche: You need to check the specifications if you don't know how they're named. It depends on the brand |
| 00:34:03 | WGC | Especially since Mac dumped Motorola. |
| 00:34:20 | rasher | "Not used on PCs" is pretty different from dead. |
| 00:34:21 | scorche | how is it listed in the specs? |
| 00:34:59 | amiconn | Well, if they explicitly say how much charge remains after several months or even a year, they're 'next gen' |
| 00:35:35 | WGC | What happened to that Transmeta Carusoe processor? |
| 00:36:05 | rasher | WGC: This is really quite off-topic. Check the topic. |
| 00:36:17 | rasher | WGC: and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines while you're at it. |
| 00:36:28 | scorche | ...which is in the topic |
| 00:37:07 | scorche | amiconn: do you know of a place that carries them and ships to the US? |
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| 00:37:23 | WGC | I was wondering if they were used in portable devices. |
| 00:37:44 | ddalton | does the voice work on simulator yet? |
| 00:37:47 | amiconn | Some examples how they're named: Ansmann "max e", Sanyo "eneloop", Varta "Ready2Use" |
| 00:39:05 | scorche | thanks |
| 00:39:42 | amiconn | They typically have a little less capacity that 'old type' NiMHs |
| 00:39:50 | amiconn | 2100mAh or 2000mAh are common |
| 00:40:57 | Llorean | What makes these new NiMHs better? |
| 00:40:59 | scorche | well, if they dont discharge after 2 days, it is worth it... |
| 00:40:59 | amiconn | Also Uniross "Hybrio" |
| 00:41:22 | amiconn | Llorean: Their self-discharge rate is *significantly* reduced |
| 00:41:36 | Llorean | Ah, so good for say, television remotes and such? |
| 00:41:48 | amiconn | For everything, imo |
| 00:42:07 | amiconn | Like the torchlight that always has empty batteries if you need it... |
| 00:42:20 | Llorean | I dunno, I'd pick a higher capacity one with a faster self-discharge if I was nearly always going to run a full charge, right? |
| 00:42:50 | scorche | Llorean: well, as i said, the "old style" typically get to a point where they discharge after 2 days or less.. |
| 00:43:00 | scorche | at least in my archos |
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| 00:43:55 | WGC_ | Sorry, I read the guidelines. |
| 00:44:04 | WGC_ | I guess I shouldn't be here if I don't need help. |
| 00:44:13 | WGC | I don't have anything to say then. |
| 00:44:13 | WGC | I can't connect to the website anyways. |
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| 00:44:30 | WGC | That was odd |
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| 00:45:09 | WGC | So, are targets considered on topic? |
| 00:45:24 | scorche | depends ont he question |
| 00:45:41 | WGC | k |
| 00:45:51 | WGC | If they're from me, they'll be general. |
| 00:46:01 | scorche | what do you mean? |
| 00:46:10 | WGC | They won't be build specific. |
| 00:47:56 | WGC | I hope I didn't offend any of you for making off-topic small talk |
| 00:49:06 | Llorean | WGC: We have a "community" channel for "people who are fans of Rockbox who want to talk to other fans about non-Rockbox stuff" and similar. |
| 00:49:12 | WGC | k |
| 00:49:21 | WGC | Well, I'll see you if I need help. |
| 00:49:28 | WGC | Bye |
| 00:49:29 | Llorean | This channel is logged, and people often read the logs to find out what development discussion, etc, has been going on, so on-topic keeps those logs shorter and more to the point. |
| 00:49:39 | WGC | Makes sense |
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| 00:52:16 | scorche | hrm...i am beginning to wonder what has happened with r-t.org/redbreva... |
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| 00:54:52 | petur | amiconn: now that you visited backlight.c, any opinion on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6689 ? in short, he says that when using cliplight for main+remote (backlight on when clipping) and no remote is present, backlight stays on for way too long. |
| 00:56:00 | amiconn | umm, not sure |
| 00:56:18 | amiconn | Maybe it was caused by the quirks in the backlight on hold implementation |
| 00:56:41 | amiconn | Depends on whether remote hold is detected when the remote isn't plugged |
| 00:56:52 | * | amiconn rarely records, and never used the clipping light |
| 00:57:00 | amiconn | Not even for testing... |
| 00:57:04 | petur | I'll ask him to test with latest build then... |
| 00:58:16 | petur | recently somebody on TapersSection asked if we couldn't port rockbox to a recorder from edirol. I saw it uses a TI320 (at least I think it does) |
| 00:59:55 | petur | http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=89282.0 has a link to pcb pics |
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| 01:00:34 | amiconn | Well, "we" surely won't port it on demand |
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| 01:00:46 | amiconn | Someone with that unit and a clue has to do it |
| 01:00:49 | petur | which is what I told them |
| 01:01:14 | inmotion | anyone ever get stuck looking at a jpg? ipod 5.5. menu, scroll wheel, play/pause, etc nothing gets me back to menu |
| 01:01:46 | amiconn | Tme recommends the fine manual |
| 01:01:51 | * | amiconn even |
| 01:07:06 | petur | do we want a second credits plugin? |
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| 01:08:03 | amiconn | eh? |
| 01:08:47 | petur | there was a patch to add scrolling to the credits plugin (FS #6854) but it contained a crash, and the author just made a new one... |
| 01:08:59 | petur | very simple list you can scroll up/down |
| 01:09:36 | amiconn | That doesn't make sense imho |
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| 01:10:04 | [1]robin0800 | test |
| 01:10:16 | amiconn | If we want that, just including CREDITS is enough. Viewable with the text viewer |
| 01:10:30 | petur | true |
| 01:10:37 | [1]robin0800 | *test |
| 01:10:48 | petur | [1]robin0800: please don't |
| 01:11:39 | Shishire | I'm having an issue with the text viewer on today's build of rockbox. The word wrap just doesn't work. I'm not sure if this is a bug or what not, so... |
| 01:12:02 | amiconn | Check the options |
| 01:12:41 | Shishire | I've tried to set it to both on and off, neither activates it |
| 01:12:54 | amiconn | There's also wide view |
| 01:13:20 | Shishire | Wide view works, but I'mm trying to use narrow view with word wrap |
| 01:14:12 | [1]robin0800 | robin0800 |
| 01:14:16 | amiconn | Hmm, you're right |
| 01:14:26 | * | amiconn wonders what broke it |
| 01:14:37 | amiconn | I can't remember a viewer related commit |
| 01:15:18 | Shishire | is there an older build that I can use that would work for text viewer? |
| 01:15:18 | Bagder | 4 and 5 days ago |
| 01:15:51 | amiconn | Yeah, the categories stuff. But that only changed the placement of the viewer... |
| 01:16:01 | Bagder | this http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugins/viewer.c?r1=14021&r2=14187 |
| 01:16:03 | amiconn | (and its config files, which are placed wrong btw) |
| 01:16:34 | Bagder | but now, sleep |
| 01:18:01 | amiconn | JdGordon bug :( |
| 01:18:22 | petur | right, that should be VIEWERS_DIR |
| 01:19:00 | [1]robin0800 | message test |
| 01:19:12 | amiconn | Yes, but that earlier fix that broke word wrap was also his |
| 01:19:46 | amiconn | [1]robin0800: *please* stop that |
| 01:20:15 | [1]robin0800 | me robin0800 |
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| 01:24:44 | rasher | Looks like you have to make clean if you change apps/plugins/CATEGORIES |
| 01:24:48 | [1]robin0800 | msg receiver y |
| 01:25:10 | petur | rasher: yes |
| 01:25:22 | petur | rasher: and reconfigure |
| 01:25:27 | rasher | ouch |
| 01:25:37 | petur | I think |
| 01:25:37 | amiconn | why is that? |
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| 01:25:49 | petur | silly me |
| 01:26:01 | petur | that was when the locations changed |
| 01:26:17 | amiconn | CATEGORIES should only be used by 'make zip', shouldn't it? |
| 01:26:38 | amiconn | Btw, I also wonder what that 'test' file is that gets packaged now |
| 01:26:52 | rasher | Well, I'm building and running the simulator |
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| 01:52:34 | tranbaer | what's the status on the ipod nano problem? |
| 01:53:40 | Llorean | tranbaer: There's no solution yet? |
| 01:53:52 | Llorean | When there's a solution, there'll either be a patch to test, or a commit |
| 01:57:14 | petur | can somebody with an h100 test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7564 - it works fine in the sim |
| 01:57:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:57:45 | Llorean | petur: Gimme 5 minutes to dig up my h100 and build. |
| 01:57:56 | petur | it's not a patch |
| 01:58:02 | petur | it's a bugreport |
| 01:58:31 | Llorean | Yeah, but I like building for myself, and it'll take less time to do so than finding my player. ;) |
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| 02:03:41 | Llorean | petur: My H120 works fine |
| 02:04:13 | petur | so deleting dirs gives the busy bar as it should |
| 02:04:48 | Llorean | It was a file. |
| 02:05:13 | petur | ok |
| 02:05:15 | Llorean | Let me try a stocked folder |
| 02:05:21 | Llorean | The file was too small for the bar to even appear |
| 02:05:28 | Llorean | Alright, large folder with subfolders with files, no problem either |
| 02:05:57 | amiconn | The delete screen is buggy |
| 02:06:09 | petur | ? |
| 02:06:19 | Llorean | amiconn: In what way? |
| 02:06:27 | amiconn | On Player I get a 'no such char' block in the first line, where the path should be displayed |
| 02:07:06 | Llorean | Well, this bug report concerns a freeze. |
| 02:07:07 | amiconn | Iirc I also observed that on other targets, but I'm not sure |
| 02:07:09 | Llorean | Though one I'm not having. |
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| 02:07:30 | amiconn | If it's a wild pointer, it could also cause a freeze depending on the situation |
| 02:07:46 | Llorean | Any conceivable reason why the pre-7 bootloader and flashed Rockbox on H100 might cause strangeness there? |
| 02:08:01 | Llorean | Rather, strangeness that wouldn't happen on an 'official' setup |
| 02:08:46 | petur | bootloader is unrelated imho |
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| 02:09:00 | Llorean | petur: But he's running flashed Rockbox. |
| 02:09:08 | Llorean | And I don't know which form of flashed Rockbox he means |
| 02:09:16 | petur | oh |
| 02:09:43 | Llorean | I imagine if it's the executes-from-ROM version, the wild pointer might have quite different symptoms. |
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| 03:10:32 | Soap | Llorean: have you ever seen how handhelds.org "grades" their ports? |
| 03:10:51 | Soap | I find it very interesting. http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH4100 is an example of one grade card |
| 03:10:58 | Llorean | Soap: Nope. I've only really looked at one port, that got abandoned before reaching a stage I'd use it. |
| 03:11:04 | Soap | do you see any value in such a system for Rockbox ports? |
| 03:11:56 | Llorean | If we could come up with a standard report card for them, yeah |
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| 03:13:57 | Llorean | They never got sound working on my handheld, and I kinda wanted it. =/ |
| 03:14:34 | Llorean | It also required a serial cable to install, and I didn't really see it as worth purchasing anything since it was more a "do it for the sake of doing it" in that gadget's case |
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| 03:19:31 | advcomp2019 | how about the palm tx even tho there is a linux port |
| 03:21:33 | scorche | how would we know? |
| 03:21:53 | advcomp2019 | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTX |
| 03:22:07 | scorche | the point being, it is offtopic... |
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| 03:23:08 | advcomp2019 | i know but someone said something about an hp ipaq |
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| 03:23:32 | Llorean | advcomp2019: It's the report cards handhelds.org uses to rate their ports. |
| 03:24:04 | Llorean | Soap: I think a standardize report card would do users good, especially for "unreleased" ports if we start doing releases |
| 03:24:30 | scorche | Llorean: well, it is better than the "throw out a number" way of doing it currently |
| 03:24:32 | rasher | Don't we have these already (the FooPort pages generally include status) |
| 03:24:43 | scorche | see above |
| 03:25:12 | Llorean | rasher: Yeah, but it's always unclear. |
| 03:25:13 | rasher | I don't see how it's better. It just gives a better idea of how close a feature is, rather than being binary |
| 03:25:21 | Llorean | For example "What does power management 10% mean?" |
| 03:25:30 | Llorean | I'd like some form of user-understandable grade. |
| 03:25:50 | Llorean | For example, if charging is safe, and battery life is equivalent to the retail firmware, then power management gets a check, even if it's not optimal yet. |
| 03:25:51 | scorche | A-F is much simpler than <lets pull a number from an unnamed place>% |
| 03:26:03 | Llorean | Basically "It works for users" or "It doesn't work for users" independent of the actual code state. |
| 03:26:20 | Llorean | As well, grouping the grades on one page, with a link to their report card... maybe as part of the Buyers Guide setup |
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| 03:29:08 | Soap | (sorry - new dog piddled) |
| 03:30:21 | Soap | but I have been thinking about it for a couple of days, and I'm probably not qualified to define D and C, maybe not even B, but have some ideas for the higher grades. |
| 03:31:20 | Llorean | I think "A" should include "Duplicates all the functionality of the original firmware" |
| 03:31:36 | scorche | Soap: you havent gotten that thing under control yet? |
| 03:31:38 | Llorean | Which means only Archoses and the H100 for the moment, though. |
| 03:31:54 | * | Llorean wanders off briefly |
| 03:31:56 | Soap | scorche: he's 5 and stubborn |
| 03:32:09 | * | scorche shakes his head |
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| 03:35:54 | webguest75 | Hi all. I am having problems with my nano. aborting dat and stuff all the time. Wich old build schould i use to make it work? |
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| 03:39:45 | Staticnat | hello |
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| 03:52:57 | krazykit | webguest75, july 26 is a date i've heard works. no guarantees. |
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| 03:56:04 | krazykit | hello |
| 03:56:09 | advcomp2019 | hello Staticnat |
| 03:56:10 | webguest75 | ppl |
| 03:56:20 | webguest75 | where can i find older build versions |
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| 03:56:39 | krazykit | webguest75, current builds. there's a link to the archived builds. |
| 03:56:40 | webguest75 | i am looking for one for nano from 2007.07.02 |
| 03:56:57 | Llorean | Any build older than those on the archived builds page has to be compiled yourself |
| 03:56:58 | webguest75 | but ther isnt so old one |
| 03:57:27 | webguest75 | isnt there a opkace where i can get it>? |
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| 03:57:32 | webguest75 | place |
| 03:57:44 | Llorean | No. |
| 03:57:52 | Llorean | At least, not that we know of. |
| 03:58:04 | webguest75 | nice |
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| 03:58:33 | Llorean | Well, keeping every build ever would take a lot of space. |
| 03:58:37 | Llorean | We keep them for one month |
| 03:59:02 | webguest75 | ok but what i see now is that ipod works fine with different one |
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| 04:00:33 | webguest75 | i hope that lastfm pugin works |
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| 04:02:38 | advcomp2019 | hello Staticnat |
| 04:02:48 | DMJC | is the black bar in the menu hard coded? |
| 04:02:52 | DMJC | or can that get edited? |
| 04:02:58 | DMJC | tryiing to make a theme |
| 04:03:35 | BHSPitMonkey | which black bar |
| 04:04:46 | DMJC | highlighted menu items |
| 04:05:15 | DMJC | isn't there a .wps editor? |
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| 04:06:50 | krazykit | DMJC, yeah, any text editor |
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| 04:07:03 | DMJC | k |
| 04:10:30 | Soap | Llorean: wouldn't the Zhiggabeat get an A? |
| 04:11:02 | krazykit | you can't switch between landscape mode and back on the fly |
| 04:11:13 | krazykit | the original firmware can (from the 2 minutes i've used it) |
| 04:11:20 | Soap | dang |
| 04:11:37 | krazykit | there's a patch to go landscape, but it's at boot time |
| 04:11:48 | krazykit | so it's not /quite/ the same |
| 04:12:15 | Soap | I, personally, would put "esoteric" original firmware into the A+ catagory, not A, but then that gets subjective. |
| 04:12:47 | Soap | *original firmware _features_ |
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| 04:14:23 | Soap | with sartoga's WMA work, that is a large step towards "everything original firmwares can do." Plus it has the added benifit of allowing Rockbox to say "file doesn't work - blame the DRM" |
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| 04:17:31 | krazykit | a+ would be a good distinction, and would allow players to still get the A rating |
| 04:17:46 | krazykit | i feel like giving a lot of B and C ratings would scare away prospective users |
| 04:18:02 | krazykit | ie, "oh, this seems to do poorly. maybe i shouldn't switch" |
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| 04:19:48 | DMJC | can you edit the rockbox top level menu? |
| 04:20:19 | DMJC | the files/database/resume playback/settings/recording/playlists/plugins/system screen |
| 04:21:55 | RoC_MM | it's in the source code, so...yes |
| 04:22:17 | RoC_MM | perhaps that's not what you meant thought |
| 04:28:36 | krazykit | DMJC, from a wps, the most you can do is specify fonts and colors |
| 04:28:53 | DMJC | where do you do that in the wps? |
| 04:29:01 | DMJC | that's the main thing I want to do atm |
| 04:29:14 | DMJC | but yeah themeability of the menu would be nice to have |
| 04:30:01 | krazykit | well, it's not in the wps folder |
| 04:31:13 | krazykit | it's uh |
| 04:31:44 | krazykit | a .cfg file named the same as your wps, placed in the themes folder in .rockbox |
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| 04:32:14 | DMJC | hmm |
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| 04:51:33 | Staticnat | how is everyone? |
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| 05:09:02 | LinkinXp | hey! |
| 05:09:04 | LinkinXp | hello |
| 05:09:13 | LinkinXp | can i ask here questions of Cell Phones? |
| 05:09:18 | krazykit | no |
| 05:09:21 | LinkinXp | about cell's |
| 05:09:25 | LinkinXp | ok |
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| 05:14:35 | alienbiker99 | who made the h100 bootloader that you flash, so its just rockbox |
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| 05:20:30 | Staticnat | can some one tell me what setting i have to change to stop the backlight from being turned off when i start doom? |
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| 05:25:26 | Soap | stop using an UNSUPPORTED build |
| 05:25:42 | Soap | or read the thread you got the build from. It is answered in the thread - I know this for a fact. |
| 05:25:57 | Soap | ;) |
| 05:26:27 | Soap | but don't break the social contract by using a clearly marked unsupported build, and then seeking out official support. |
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| 05:28:37 | Staticnat | the Fusion sim from EvilG from the themes page is unsupported? |
| 05:28:49 | Soap | link? |
| 05:28:59 | Staticnat | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 |
| 05:29:29 | Soap | are we talking a simulator, or a build on your iPod? |
| 05:29:52 | Staticnat | its a build i belive |
| 05:30:17 | Soap | that's not even a Rockbox official site |
| 05:30:32 | Staticnat | i got linked there from the official site |
| 05:30:36 | Staticnat | kk then |
| 05:30:47 | Soap | and the pedantic person in me, rasher, wants to make clear there is no such thing as "Led Zeppelin IV" |
| 05:33:08 | DogBoy | in an alternative universe |
| 05:35:05 | Soap | oops, that's not rasher's site. Sorry for highlighting you rasher |
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| 05:50:39 | ville | Just installed rockbox on Sansa e270, pretty slick. |
| 05:54:47 | alienbiker99 | there its no usbotg support on the h3x0 right? |
| 05:55:41 | DogBoy | what os are you using on the computer you load files from ville |
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| 06:32:05 | Llorean | Soap: The Gigabeat has a USB host mode with the dock, I believe. |
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| 06:43:01 | amiconn | Llorean: When evaluating which port duplicates all the functionality of the original firmwate, you forgot the M5 |
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| 06:46:07 | Llorean | amiconn: Ah, so I did. The M5 is "complete"? |
| 06:46:17 | amiconn | yes |
| 06:46:18 | Llorean | I must admit I don't know on what line it differs from the X5 |
| 06:46:37 | amiconn | It's very similar to the difference between H1x0 and H300 |
| 06:46:59 | amiconn | Just that the M5 is even more similar to the X5 hardware wise. |
| 06:47:19 | amiconn | The M5 is an X5 without USBOTG, radio, and serial number chip |
| 06:47:30 | Llorean | Ah, okay |
| 06:47:41 | Llorean | So complete targets are the archoses, M5, and H100? |
| 06:47:49 | amiconn | yes, afaik |
| 06:47:57 | Llorean | Thanks |
| 06:48:16 | amiconn | The X5 is lacking USBOTH the same way as the H300 |
| 06:49:04 | amiconn | And all the PP targets lack usb (and/or firewire) support |
| 06:49:18 | amiconn | Don't know about the gigabeat though |
| 06:50:32 | alienbiker99 | hey if somebody could look at adding 5937 patch to the svn, it would fix the iamp errors on the h1x0. also if it is add, could somebody make the change in .wps file. the change would be changing all of the "88"'s to an "87" giving it one line space between the file icons and the progress bar. |
| 06:50:44 | Llorean | amiconn: The Gigabeat is lacking USB Host, and apparently the Portrait/Landscape switch if that qualifies. |
| 06:51:05 | Llorean | And I wouldn't consider the PP "complete" until battery life is right, but that's me personally. |
| 06:51:43 | amiconn | Didn't know that the gigabeat had usb host |
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| 06:53:29 | Llorean | amiconn: AFAIK, it's only when connected to the dock (in the retail firmware) and just copies the files off say... a camera. |
| 06:53:52 | Llorean | But as I've not used it, this is only based on my inquiries when they were talking about making a USB host adapter for it in #Gigabeat |
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| 07:05:55 | ptw419 | wasn't someone from GSOC working on a usb host that was compatible w/ the gigabeat? |
| 07:08:46 | Llorean | ptw419: Working on USB for the Sansa |
| 07:08:53 | Llorean | Host can be added on to it though |
| 07:09:02 | Llorean | It's a USB stack in general, but his test device is a sansa, rather |
| 07:09:28 | alienbiker99 | usb stack for pp(?)...h10s etc? |
| 07:09:30 | ptw419 | ah. aliask was stating it was based off the imx31 or something like that...but i'm not sure about specifics |
| 07:13:28 | amiconn | rrrrr |
| 07:14:00 | ptw419 | ugh...this is aggravating me to no end... |
| 07:14:11 | ptw419 | i still can't figure out why the cpu isn't acknowledging interrupts... |
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| 07:51:48 | amiconn | Hmm. Voice building on linux works, but there's a significant flaw. |
| 07:52:04 | amiconn | I can't select multiple languages and/or voices to build per target |
| 07:52:14 | amiconn | I need one build dir for every combination |
| 07:52:26 | * | amiconn would like to build english and german voices in one go |
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| 08:47:34 | LinkinXp | hey |
| 08:47:39 | LinkinXp | there is another web |
| 08:47:41 | LinkinXp | for plugins |
| 08:47:44 | LinkinXp | and themes? |
| 08:47:50 | LinkinXp | for rockbox |
| 08:48:48 | ddalton | what players don't have a rtc |
| 08:50:56 | alienbiker99 | h1x0 series, ummmm dont know any other off the top of my head |
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| 08:54:27 | pixelma | the Ondios also don't have an RTC |
| 08:54:32 | amiconn | Archos Player, Ondio FM and SP, Iriver H1x0 series, iPod 1st/2nd gen |
| 08:54:38 | LinkinXp | i like this rockbox |
| 08:54:39 | LinkinXp | :D |
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| 08:58:54 | ddalton | ok thanks |
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| 09:05:37 | pixelma | ddalton: do you want to know that for your code? |
| 09:07:24 | ddalton | pixelma : I wrote a patch (p7561) and a friend wanted me to make the time spoken before the disk free info. but if I put the disk free info code in the rtc if then if the player doesn't have an rtc it won't say the disk free space. |
| 09:07:43 | ddalton | hopefully you can see what I am saying here |
| 09:09:32 | amiconn | No |
| 09:09:53 | amiconn | Of course you have to exclude the time announcement code for non-rtc targets, like it is now |
| 09:10:17 | ddalton | anyway i will just leave it as it is. just see p7561 for details. |
| 09:10:22 | amiconn | And you don't need to know which these are, just check the appropriate macro |
| 09:12:08 | ddalton | I know but I was just wondering. |
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| 09:16:40 | ddalton | does anyone have any idea how to get the quick screen to voice? |
| 09:17:10 | ddalton | I have a couple but was wondering if anyone else knew about this |
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| 09:28:49 | ddalton | can someone sighted go into the quick screen and tell me what the options are and how they are layed out? I am blind so can't do this. |
| 09:32:52 | ddalton | how long does it take to build a voice file on linux. It has only done 90 clips on cygwin after 10 minutes. |
| 09:33:01 | ddalton | which is slow |
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| 09:36:22 | hcs | ddalton: the layout of the quick screen is left=shuffle (off, on), right=repeat (all,one,shuffle,off) down=show files (supported, music, playlists, all) |
| 09:36:52 | * | amiconn wouldn't bother voicing the quickscreen |
| 09:37:08 | amiconn | It doesn't offer any option that isn't available via the menus |
| 09:37:25 | amiconn | And since button actions, it's more a not-so-quickscreen |
| 09:37:38 | hcs | it is quicker, though, remember how discmans had a shuffle button? |
| 09:38:08 | hcs | but maybe I just don't know what button actions are... |
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| 09:38:48 | amiconn | Before that, it was possible to use the quickscreen in a real quick way (on targets where multiple button presses can be detected at once) |
| 09:38:58 | ddalton | hcs: so is there 3 options in the quick screen? what if you press up? |
| 09:39:13 | hcs | ddalton: nothing happens |
| 09:39:13 | LinusN | ddalton: the cygwin voice building is insanely slow at the moment, linux is a lot faster |
| 09:39:54 | amiconn | Just press the quickscreen button *and hold it*. Then press the appropriate option selection button (Left/Down/Right) one or more times. Releasing the quickscreen button left it instantly |
| 09:39:54 | ddalton | hcs: so is there 3 options in the quick screen you can change? |
| 09:40:04 | hcs | ddalton: yes |
| 09:40:35 | ddalton | amiconn: I am blind so can't do that |
| 09:40:53 | amiconn | The current way (press quickscreen button, select option(s), press again to leave) was also possible - just that it was possible to leave it with the same button you entered |
| 09:40:59 | amiconn | Even that doesn't work now |
| 09:41:21 | ddalton | hey will a machine running linux with 128 mb ram 10 gb hard drive and 633 mhz cpu build rockbox and be fine for programming? |
| 09:41:30 | hcs | ddalton: hmm, actually it seems that up also toggles the show files setting (which is also toggled with the down button) |
| 09:42:09 | amiconn | hcs: Yes, Up == Down in the quickscreens |
| 09:42:36 | LinusN | ddalton: i'm sure it will |
| 09:42:38 | hcs | hadn't known, learning something new daily |
| 09:42:40 | ddalton | my voice is still building. taking for ever. Maybe I should just move to linux |
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| 09:43:06 | ddalton | LinusN: what type of machine are you using? |
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| 09:45:52 | LinusN | P4 3.4MHz, 1gig RAM, 1TB disk :-) |
| 09:46:16 | LinusN | sorry 2GB RAM |
| 09:46:37 | ddalton | do you mean 3.4 ghz? |
| 09:46:42 | LinusN | of course |
| 09:46:47 | ddalton | and how does this go with compiling |
| 09:46:54 | LinusN | like lightning |
| 09:46:55 | pixelma | hehe |
| 09:47:08 | ddalton | How long would it take you to build rockbox? |
| 09:49:57 | ddalton | finally my voice file is done |
| 09:51:19 | amiconn | Voice building being slow on windows isn't a cygwin problem this time |
| 09:51:40 | amiconn | It's due to how the sapi engine is integrated into the voice build system |
| 09:52:03 | amiconn | With the old script I was able to build a sapi5 voice in less than a minute |
| 09:52:34 | amiconn | But the current script loads/unloads the sapi engine for every single clip |
| 09:52:38 | LinusN | ddalton: well, not exactly like lightning, but building an entire h100 rockbox took 1:30 without ccache and 30 seconds without |
| 09:53:09 | LinusN | wit30 seconds *with* ccache |
| 09:53:22 | LinusN | what's with my typing today? |
| 09:54:56 | pixelma | bad influence of DerPapst's typo classes ;) |
| 09:56:44 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 09:58:24 | ddalton | I just realised that p7525 is wrong. It will only work for players with rtc. So can someone tell me where the code should go? |
| 09:58:33 | Staticnat | whats up yall |
| 09:59:00 | ddalton | Doesn't really matter because my player has a rtc and noone else is interested in it I think. |
| 09:59:21 | ddalton | is it possible to spell variables? |
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| 10:26:32 | ddalton | LinusN do you know about the voice interface? |
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| 10:54:47 | pixelma | n1s: I found a comment on line 10434 in english.lang - is it still valid or could it be removed? |
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| 11:10:49 | ddalton | Could someone help me out here with some fm radio code? |
| 11:11:55 | JdGordon | your a brave man if oyu want to fiddle in that code |
| 11:12:16 | pixelma | and sth. entirely different: would anybody object if I committed a imo fix to the snap font that makes the numbers 1 and 7 the same width as the others? I mean, especially the 1 looks different to what there is now but this way a line that show the current playing time doesn't jump around anymore... |
| 11:12:21 | ddalton | JdGordon: Why? |
| 11:12:41 | JdGordon | pixelma: tere are a few font patches if you feel like commiting them |
| 11:13:55 | JdGordon | pixelma: 5028 especially... |
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| 11:17:03 | pixelma | hmm.. just found them - and there is an old one (2918) that does what I did for snap for some other fonts (though he only made them wider, whereas I changed the 7 a bit more in positioning - and he also included the abandoned chicage-font and didn't state his real name) |
| 11:17:51 | pixelma | *chicago |
| 11:20:42 | pixelma | JdGordon: thanks for the pointer, will look closer into it but for now I would just like to commit my "snap" version |
| 11:21:57 | JdGordon | the only complaints you'll get are post-commit from wps people who's screens dont look lkike they used to.... so go for it :D |
| 11:22:52 | pixelma | :) well, I like it better than a line that changes its length all the time |
| 11:23:48 | pixelma | noticable: 1 had a width of 4 pixels, the majority of the others have a width of 7 pixels... |
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| 11:30:07 | n1s | pixelma: that could be removed |
| 11:31:43 | pixelma | n1s: just committed something tiny, now it's your turn ;) |
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| 11:45:36 | Taos | First off, I just want to say that Rockbox is an amazing firmware and I love it to death. I've had it for a few days now and it's great! I just want to know, is there is anyway to sort my music by the file creation date? |
| 11:47:13 | hcs | Settings->General Settings->File View->Sort Files does what you want? |
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| 11:51:42 | Taos | Well, that'll work just fine. Though it seems that I'll finally have to get rid of the iTunes firmware and just load all my music into a plain file. |
| 11:53:52 | JdGordon | thats a bad thing? |
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| 11:57:00 | pixelma | maybe you can find something in the tagnavi_custom function but I don't know... the DataBase wiki page might tell |
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| 11:59:17 | Taos | JdGordon: No, it's not. It's just more waiting before I can start getting my nightly music fix. |
| 11:59:59 | Taos | pixelma: Doesn't look like there's a supported tag for file time. |
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| 12:02:08 | amiconn | JdGordon: Does the settings system allow to have an integer setting with a dynamic range? |
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| 12:02:25 | amiconn | (precisely a settings where the maximum depends on another setting) |
| 12:04:40 | amiconn | Maybe I'll implement this in a different way though |
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| 12:18:39 | JdGordon | amiconn: not entirely sure what you mean, but I dont think so |
| 12:19:05 | JdGordon | if its important it can probably be added realtivly easily |
| 12:19:37 | amiconn | It's not that important, as it might be confusing |
| 12:19:47 | amiconn | My other idea isn't as flexible though |
| 12:19:53 | amiconn | ...but probably sufficient |
| 12:20:34 | JdGordon | do you mean a value between some min and the current value of another setting? |
| 12:21:12 | amiconn | Yes, or more precisely between min and (current_value_of_other_setting - 1) |
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| 12:21:36 | JdGordon | well, codewise thats failry easy to do, but sounds like it could confuse users |
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| 12:21:46 | amiconn | yes |
| 12:21:53 | JdGordon | what you want it for? |
| 12:22:02 | amiconn | It's for my reduced backlight idea |
| 12:22:12 | amiconn | ...on targets which can set backlight brightness |
| 12:22:19 | amiconn | (e.g. H300 and X5) |
| 12:22:51 | amiconn | The reduced brightness should of course not be higher than the normal brightness (cause then it wouldn't be reduced ;)) |
| 12:23:07 | JdGordon | ah |
| 12:23:15 | amiconn | But I'll probably just offer 3 settings: Off, Minimum, and 1/2 |
| 12:24:01 | JdGordon | no, allow the full brightness levels.. not just 3 settings |
| 12:24:28 | amiconn | And how do I make sure that reduced < normal? |
| 12:24:30 | JdGordon | but just check the dimmer value is lower than max when changing levels |
| 12:24:44 | JdGordon | if it is greater then just ignroe the setting |
| 12:24:46 | amiconn | And what to do then if it's not? |
| 12:24:51 | amiconn | hmm.... |
| 12:24:57 | amiconn | That might also be confusing... |
| 12:25:13 | JdGordon | or.... in the setting callback you can check the values and show a splash if its heigher |
| 12:25:33 | JdGordon | umm... I tihnk you can actually set a min/max dynamically |
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| 12:26:10 | wippeout | hello |
| 12:26:20 | wippeout | someone with zen vision M here ? |
| 12:26:42 | JdGordon | hmm... you could use the text callback and show "heigher than normal brightness"...? |
| 12:26:52 | scorche | wippeout: is there something specific you were trying to get at? |
| 12:27:58 | wippeout | yes, i'm trying to use it under ubuntu :) |
| 12:28:11 | scorche | wippeout: what does that have to do with rockbox? |
| 12:28:21 | wippeout | nothing :) |
| 12:28:34 | scorche | please read the guidelines linked in the topic |
| 12:28:44 | wippeout | sorry, i don't see the topic |
| 12:29:27 | scorche | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines |
| 12:30:29 | wippeout | ok |
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| 12:36:13 | * | amiconn is puzzled that the mini G2 voice file differs in size from the mini G1 voice file |
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| 12:40:53 | LinusN | amiconn: check apps/features after building |
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| 12:42:17 | PKdoR | whats up dudes?? |
| 12:42:30 | ddalton | does rockbox use arrays and pointers? |
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| 12:42:37 | markun | ddalton: of course |
| 12:42:49 | ddalton | ok and what about printf? |
| 12:42:49 | markun | PKdoR: word |
| 12:42:57 | markun | ddalton: also |
| 12:42:59 | scorche | markun: haha... |
| 12:43:05 | PKdoR | is rock box compatible with a 2g ipod nano 2gb? |
| 12:43:14 | markun | no |
| 12:43:17 | ddalton | no |
| 12:43:17 | LinusN | ddalton: we have sprintf, not printf |
| 12:43:22 | PKdoR | damn!!! |
| 12:43:28 | PKdoR | nither is linx |
| 12:43:45 | scorche | PKdoR: you can see a list of supported devices on our front page |
| 12:44:00 | PKdoR | Is there anything modable on the g2 nano 2gb? |
| 12:44:11 | LinusN | amiconn: mini1g doesn't have backlight_fade |
| 12:44:22 | amiconn | ah |
| 12:44:25 | scorche | PKdoR: this channel is about rockbox...not "modding your ipod" |
| 12:44:41 | PKdoR | ok sorry |
| 12:44:42 | amiconn | Well, it should work on mini G1, but someone has to test it |
| 12:44:52 | markun | PKdoR: if someone figures out how to mod it it would also help to make a rockbox port |
| 12:45:07 | ddalton | LinusN what is the difference. I don't know as you probably know I am just learning the language. |
| 12:45:10 | PKdoR | ok thanks |
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| 12:45:34 | LinusN | ddalton: printf outputs to the screen, sprintf puts the result in a string |
| 12:45:48 | amiconn | We don't have sprintf, only snprintf |
| 12:45:51 | ddalton | LinusN then how do you display it? |
| 12:47:07 | ddalton | LinusN how do you display that string? |
| 12:47:29 | LinusN | ddalton: using the lcd API |
| 12:47:47 | LinusN | there are manu ways to display a string depending on how and where you want it |
| 12:48:05 | LinusN | amiconn: ah, of course |
| 12:48:10 | ddalton | LinusN a menu option how would you do that? |
| 12:48:22 | LinusN | ddalton: ask JdGordon :-) |
| 12:48:47 | ddalton | JdGordon: can you answer my question? |
| 12:49:01 | JdGordon | what question? |
| 12:49:22 | n1s | ddalton: there's already a patch for a talking quick screen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6171 |
| 12:49:27 | ddalton | If you use snprintf how do you display the string? |
| 12:50:05 | ddalton | Yeah but it is way out of date and his last one doesn't actually read the options from the quick screen. |
| 12:50:49 | JdGordon | ddalton: where do you want to show the string? |
| 12:51:00 | ddalton | Menu option |
| 12:51:11 | ddalton | And splash screen |
| 12:51:44 | JdGordon | for the splash you do gui_syncsplash(<timeout>, string); |
| 12:51:52 | JdGordon | for menu, do you want it as a setting? |
| 12:52:25 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingTheMenuAPI#MENUITEM_SETTING_W_TEXT or http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingTheMenuAPI#MENUITEM_FUNCTION_DYNTEXT for the menu |
| 12:52:42 | ddalton | Well I am just reading my c book so trying to get as much info as possible but maybe on the main menu or as a setting |
| 12:53:25 | ddalton | is gui_syncsplash a rockbox function? |
| 12:53:38 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:54:07 | ddalton | so you can't use it in other programs like from the book? |
| 12:54:20 | LinusN | exactly |
| 12:54:47 | ddalton | LinusN how does it work just out of quriosity? |
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| 12:55:46 | LinusN | ddalton: what do you mean? |
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| 12:56:16 | ddalton | LinusN what code has been put in the function how does it know how to display stuff? |
| 12:56:19 | JdGordon | ddalton: apps/gui/splash.c shows how it works |
| 12:56:26 | ddalton | ok |
| 12:56:41 | JdGordon | or more specifically... you want lcd_puts() to put text at an arbitrary position on the lcd |
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| 12:57:29 | ddalton | LinusN one more question: How do the talk functions work. for example talk_id(string_to_voice, true); what is the true for? |
| 12:59:01 | ddalton | So for example would you need to use pointers to get the location of a file or not? |
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| 13:00:13 | JdGordon | ddalton: you really need to read the source code/ comments for the particualr functions your asking about, you'll nevere learn if you keep asking |
| 13:02:48 | LinusN | ddalton: the second argument to talk_id controls if the clip is to interrupt a currently playing one or not |
| 13:03:18 | LinusN | true == enqueue |
| 13:04:00 | ddalton | LinusN thanks for that I have always wanted to know that. And one more question how do you talk gui_syncsplash screens? can you just talk_id above the gui_syncsplash function call? |
| 13:04:12 | ddalton | why is that? |
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| 13:20:08 | ddalton | I know this question isn't directly related to rockbox but can switch only be used on variables of type int? Also how does the indentation work for the switch statement? |
| 13:21:11 | hcs | switch can be used on anything integer-valued, not just the "int" type, the indentation is irrelevant |
| 13:21:32 | ddalton | ok but in rockbox how much do I indent each case |
| 13:21:45 | ddalton | for example case 3 |
| 13:21:50 | Febs | Is there any reason to leave this open? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7580 |
| 13:21:51 | JdGordon | hey Nico_P, im about to head out, but have a guess at what im bloody fighting with at work |
| 13:22:08 | Nico_P | JdGordon: memory management ? |
| 13:22:16 | JdGordon | bloody ring buffers :'( |
| 13:22:22 | Nico_P | hehe :) |
| 13:22:32 | LinusN | ddalton: when you indent, always use 4 spaces, but we don't care exactly how you indent the switch blocks |
| 13:22:35 | JdGordon | yeah, and its not working :'( |
| 13:22:38 | JdGordon | anyway... |
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| 13:23:56 | ddalton | LinusN so if case 1 is lined up with case 0 would that be fine? Like if case 0 was 8 spaces in could case 1 be 8 spaces in? |
| 13:26:59 | KerNe1 | ;) |
| 13:32:16 | amiconn | ddalton: I've seen 3 different ways to indent switch statements |
| 13:32:43 | amiconn | (1) Indent the cases by 4 spaces, and what's executed int that case by another 4 spaces |
| 13:33:08 | amiconn | (2) Put the cases at the same indentation level, and only indent the statements |
| 13:33:39 | amiconn | (3) Do something inbetween and indent the cases by 2 spaces, the statements by 4 like normal (i.e. another 2 relative to the cases) |
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| 13:35:39 | n1s | ddalton: on your question how to voice a gui_syncsplash() jus do as it is done in many places in rockbox already (introduced by the talking-splashes patch) just pass a "virtual pointer" to the string using the ID2P() macro instead of the usual str() macro and the function takes care of the rest. |
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| 13:45:31 | ddalton | I have a time thing that voices the time in 12 hour format or 24. So can I do this in a switch statement? if(x==10) {code} |
| 13:46:10 | n1s | ddalton: yes |
| 13:46:20 | ddalton | how? |
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| 13:47:16 | n1s | ddalton: that sort-of depends on what you want to do but you should probably just put it inside a case, although I'm not sure what your'e trying to do... |
| 13:48:14 | ddalton | so switch(x) case 1: code case 2: code case 3: code and so on up to 24? |
| 13:48:39 | Domonoky | ddalton: dont forget the break; at the end of every switch |
| 13:48:46 | Domonoky | äh case |
| 13:48:50 | ddalton | Or would if and else if and else be better for this? |
| 13:48:53 | n1s | ddalton: that could work, yes, and what domonoky said :-) |
| 13:49:10 | ddalton | what is h case? |
| 13:49:11 | n1s | ddalton: as I said that depends on what you want to do |
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| 13:50:56 | n1s | ddalton: if you want do the same thing for several values of x then an if-else thingy is probably better |
| 13:50:59 | Domonoky | ddalton: like this : http://pastebin.ca/653420 |
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| 13:51:17 | ddalton | something different up to 24 but my statements look a bit like this. if(hour <12) {talk_id(LANG_AM, true); } else if (hour >12) {talk_id(LANG_PM, true); } else if(some thing else) and so on |
| 13:51:23 | ddalton | thanks I will look at that. |
| 13:53:55 | ddalton | Domonoky: so if x is equal to 19 the default action would be taken? |
| 13:54:12 | Domonoky | ddalton: yes |
| 13:54:41 | Domonoky | if no case matches the default is used.. so you should include a default case in every switch :-) |
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| 13:55:23 | ddalton | ok it seems like an if is best to me. But someone said a couple of days a go I should learn to use switch. Anyway could someone have a look at my patch I will put up in a few minutes if it works? |
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| 13:58:22 | ddalton | can you use break; in an if? |
| 13:58:58 | dionoea | no |
| 13:59:17 | n1s | unless it's in a switch or loop |
| 13:59:30 | dionoea | you can only break out of while, do while, for and switch. |
| 13:59:41 | dionoea | n1s: of course :) |
| 13:59:53 | ddalton | so as soon as one condition is met the if finnishes? |
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| 14:00:20 | dionoea | what do you mean by "the if finnishes"? |
| 14:00:52 | dionoea | if you have a bunch of if() else if() else if() else statements it only executes the code inside the first matching if |
| 14:02:52 | ddalton | I don't know if it will work but can someone have a look at http://pastebin.ca/raw/653425 |
| 14:03:09 | ddalton | And can you tell me if the indentation is wrong or not? |
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| 14:05:40 | dionoea | ddalton: this fixes the indentation: http://pastebin.ca/raw/653426 (you still need to indent the 2 lines in the if at the end of the patch) |
| 14:06:30 | dionoea | and the switch statement for 2 cases looks a bit overkill. I'd use an if(tm->tm_minute == 0) ... else ... |
| 14:07:11 | ddalton | was that all that was wrong? |
| 14:07:46 | dionoea | lots of extra spaces before some of the closing }. |
| 14:07:57 | dionoea | missing indentation for the switch statement |
| 14:08:18 | ddalton | how does indentation work for the switch? |
| 14:08:33 | Domonoky | ddalton: codewise it looks like it could work :-) |
| 14:09:02 | dionoea | depends. some people indent the case line and then reindent after it. Other people don't indent the case the line but still indent after it. |
| 14:09:42 | dionoea | but I guess that you could just submit a patch with messed up indentation if it's too much of a hassle for you to fix it. |
| 14:10:33 | ddalton | no it doesn |
| 14:10:46 | ddalton | no it doesn't work. I will do the if else thing |
| 14:10:54 | n1s | ddalton: also in the if-else statement that decides if to speak AM or PM you could use if (tm->tm_hour =>12){talk_id(VOICE_PM, true);} to get rid of one else if |
| 14:10:56 | ddalton | it wouldn't compile |
| 14:11:33 | Domonoky | ddalton: if it doesnt compile, give us the exact error.. :-) |
| 14:11:49 | dionoea | bbl |
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| 14:12:50 | ddalton | ok well my screen reader can't read it because it isn't on the screen. Can you get cygwin to write to a text file so I can view the whole compile process? |
| 14:14:16 | ddalton | think I worked it out I used the wrong variable name let me just test |
| 14:21:16 | n1s | JdGordon: any Idea why voiceing of the new plugins categories doesn't work? also the title line when inside each category displays the name of the directory... |
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| 14:33:57 | ddalton | can someone have a look at my patch and tell me if the indentation is right? also what else is wrong with it. Is this any better? And I haven't tested it so don't know if it works. http://pastebin.ca/raw/653438 |
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| 14:37:24 | n1s | ddalton: yes the indentation looks ok, you could still simplify the last if-else statement by using >= for the if test since you do the same for both > 12 and == 12 |
| 14:40:08 | ddalton | n1s: thanks for that I will do what you said. |
| 14:40:52 | ddalton | and it now compiles yay.... |
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| 14:56:27 | ddalton | is this now right? http://pastebin.ca/raw/653458 |
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| 14:58:40 | n1s | ddalton: it seems so, yes |
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| 15:02:31 | ddalton | n1s thanks |
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| 15:10:53 | ddalton | it is p7561 if anyone is interested. |
| 15:10:56 | ddalton | my time patch |
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| 15:14:06 | Domonoky | does anyone know which define i should use in rockbox to differentiate between little and big endian targets ? |
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| 15:24:52 | Llorean | Domonoky: What are you trying to do? |
| 15:26:31 | Domonoky | i am trying to build a wavsplit plugin.. it works.. but i have to swap headers on big endian.. |
| 15:28:04 | Llorean | If I understand correctly, you don't necessarily need to differentiate in a lot of cases, you just need to use the *toh macros (letoh or betoh). |
| 15:28:26 | Llorean | So, letoh() will resolve to nothing if your host is little endian, and it'll swap if your host is big endian, for example. |
| 15:28:40 | Domonoky | ah.. i will try this.. |
| 15:29:08 | Llorean | Note the "if I understand correctly", I accept no blame if your player melts. ;) |
| 15:29:17 | Domonoky | hehe |
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| 15:34:10 | Domonoky | hm where are these macros defined ? do they modify in place or do they return the swapped value ? .. |
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| 15:34:36 | * | Llorean has no clue |
| 15:34:41 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 15:34:46 | Llorean | I just vaguely remember having to use them to fix some problems with Doom. |
| 15:35:00 | * | Domonoky will wait for the compile to finsish, and grep for it :-) |
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| 15:52:48 | Domonoky | now the splitting seems to work.. :-) now i need a gui to set one or more split times .. |
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| 16:51:15 | Bagder | anyone tried voice and non-built in language with today's build? |
| 16:51:42 | Bagder | just curios on how it works... |
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| 17:26:21 | Llorean | Bagder: I think someone in the forum thread said that the German language worked now |
| 17:26:32 | Bagder | great |
| 17:29:32 | Llorean | Bagder: The statement was simply "It works on my Ondio." which was one of the problem targets, so I think it's good. |
| 17:29:39 | Llorean | I'll check on my Nano later, when I have the opportunity. |
| 17:35:01 | Bagder | bbq time! |
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| 17:38:22 | barrywardell | does anyone know why a build fails with an error about creating sysfont.h whenever a file in firmware/SOURCES doesn't exist? |
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| 17:51:20 | dionoea | anyone happen to have a test plugin for the ipod's dock interface serial port? |
| 17:53:40 | Domonoky | dionoea: i think no one got the serial interface on the ipod to work.. so no test plugin :-) |
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| 17:54:08 | dionoea | hum ... ok :) Do you know if the ipodlinux version works ? |
| 17:54:39 | Domonoky | as far as i know ipodlinux has a driver for it, but it doesnt work.. |
| 17:55:34 | dionoea | ok ... (I was copying bits and pieces of their code trying to make it work in a test plugin for rockbox) |
| 17:56:15 | dionoea | (and it obviously didn't work as expected ... but I'm not giving up) |
| 17:57:06 | dionoea | my long term goal is to get the apple remote's FM radio to work in rockbox |
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| 17:58:54 | Domonoky | dionoea: nice.. but first you have to get the serial interface to output some bits.. :-) |
| 17:59:13 | dionoea | exactly what I was thinking :) |
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| 18:00:39 | n1s | Domonoky: about the endianness defines, ROCKBOX_LITTLE_ENDIAN is defined for any little-endian target (or sim) rockbox is built for but as llorean said letoh() and betoh() often does the trick |
| 18:01:30 | Domonoky | n1s: i got it working with letoh(), now i need to build a gui for wavsplit, and optimize it a litte.. |
| 18:02:05 | n1s | Domonoky: ah, nice, for splitting recordings on the go? |
| 18:02:18 | Domonoky | yes.. |
| 18:02:48 | n1s | and btw all those swap macros are defined in firmware/export/system.h |
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| 18:03:51 | * | Llorean will try to remember that |
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| 18:42:44 | wonderbar | Anyone know where I can find and load the foobar2000 plugin for Rockbox on a Sansa e200? |
| 18:44:51 | wonderbar | anyone in here? |
| 18:45:45 | Soap | never heard of a Rockbox plugin for FB2K |
| 18:45:57 | wonderbar | I want to be able to shuffle my music with more control over the way it shuffles and I read in a rockbox forum post that there is a foobar2000 plug-in that will do that. I can't find it |
| 18:46:44 | Soap | wonderbar: FB2K has a channel here, all you need to do is drag your music into foobar, shuffle it however you want, and save a .m3u playlist. |
| 18:47:20 | Soap | stripping out any windows-specific paths from the m3u (like drive letters) |
| 18:47:30 | wonderbar | ic |
| 18:47:47 | wonderbar | would that not result in the list being played the same way over and over again? |
| 18:48:16 | Soap | it would |
| 18:48:28 | Soap | unless you "insert shuffled" the .m3u |
| 18:49:15 | wonderbar | Here is what I am trying to do. I would like for the shuffle on the rockbox to not repeat songs from the same artist for a specified period of time |
| 18:49:23 | wonderbar | is there a way to configure that? |
| 18:50:22 | wonderbar | I have a lot of Steeley Dan and a lot of Day's of The New for example. when rockbox shuffles I wind up listening to more of one artist than I want |
| 18:50:46 | wonderbar | Days Daze Days - whatever |
| 18:51:34 | Soap | no, there is not currently an analogue to iTunes' "Smart Playlists" |
| 18:52:04 | wonderbar | ic - do you happen to know if anyone is developing that? |
| 18:52:27 | Soap | so you could create a static playlist on foobar which follows all the rules you lay out - then use that playlist on Rockbox, but it wouldnt' dynamicly change everytime you loaded it in Rockbox. |
| 18:52:55 | Soap | I don't know if anyone is working on that - I'm the worst person to ask as I'm a "full-album, straight-through" only kinda guy. |
| 18:53:20 | wonderbar | Yes thank you for that info, it seems to be as good of a workaround as I will get for the moment |
| 18:54:02 | wonderbar | Yeah I like to do that as well, but I usually use my cd player for that |
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| 18:54:17 | wonderbar | I like to listen to random mp3's when I am sailng |
| 18:54:40 | wonderbar | I often find that I don't want to listen to the same artist over and over again |
| 18:54:55 | wonderbar | maybe creating several playlists l;ike you suggested woyld do it |
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| 18:55:51 | wonderbar | do you know who I might ask about the development of a "smart playist" plugin for rockbox? |
| 18:56:36 | dionoea | you can post a request in the features request tracker |
| 18:56:49 | dionoea | there's a link on the website, in the left hand side menu |
| 18:56:56 | wonderbar | thank you |
| 18:57:45 | Soap | just make sure you aren't repeating a prior request by a different name. |
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| 18:59:36 | wonderbar | ok thx |
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| 19:07:51 | iamben | wonderbar: #foobar2000 |
| 19:08:14 | wonderbar | thx |
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| 19:27:48 | n1s | any sansa users around? |
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| 19:30:54 | Tempis | does anyone know if newmp3technology still repiars archos units? |
| 19:31:40 | Tempis | I can't seem to find any info on their site |
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| 20:15:33 | Mouser_X | Any suggestions on how I can connect to my Gigabeat under Win98? That's the OS my (free) laptop uses. |
| 20:16:06 | Mouser_X | I plugged in my Gigabeat, and Win98 recognizes it as a a Toshiba device, but it can't find drivers for it. |
| 20:16:20 | ptw419 | what type of gigabeat? |
| 20:18:12 | Mouser_X | F40 |
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| 20:19:44 | toffe82 | with rockbox ? |
| 20:19:59 | Mouser_X | (I'm also attempting to get my 300 GB NTFS drive recognized by Win98... I've found stuff that can read NTFS drives, but I have no idea if those will work on a drive of that size, under Win98. My main PC's internal power supply failed, so I'm using my laptop until I get a replacement power supply.) |
| 20:20:11 | Mouser_X | Yes, of course running Rockbox. |
| 20:20:12 | toffe82 | you need a usb mass storage driver under win98, there is none include |
| 20:20:34 | Mouser_X | Hmmm. |
| 20:20:46 | toffe82 | there is no driver for ntfs on win98 I think |
| 20:20:58 | Mouser_X | There is, actually. |
| 20:21:04 | Mouser_X | I've found 3 different ones. |
| 20:21:20 | Mouser_X | One of them costs money, the other 2 are read-only. |
| 20:21:20 | toffe82 | you have to try it |
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| 20:22:25 | Mouser_X | I think I have a driver for mass storage devices on a disc here, but it contains more than 1 driver, so I'm not sure which one to install. |
| 20:24:29 | toffe82 | try to find if there is a generic driver for the usb chip of the f40 |
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| 20:24:53 | Mouser_X | I wouldn't know what to look for... |
| 20:25:18 | toffe82 | CY7C68300B from cypress\ |
| 20:25:34 | toffe82 | have to go talk to you later |
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| 20:25:41 | Mouser_X | Bye, and thanks. |
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| 21:05:28 | rasher | Bagder: using the voice string as filename (for POOLing) is problematic if the string contains a slash (which LANG_FM_US did recently) or several other characters if building in windows. What do you say we use `echo $string |md5sum |cut -b-32` instead? |
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| 21:09:57 | Mouser_X | Well, I couldn't find cypress drivers. |
| 21:10:15 | Mouser_X | I did however find a Wikipedia article about USB mass storage devices. |
| 21:10:34 | Mouser_X | They linked to drivers for Win98, which work for my Gigabeat. |
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| 21:12:08 | webguest70 | hi there...i have tried to search the bug reports for a specific problem but without success so i come here to ask if it is a known issue before i file a bug report...so here it is: if you have your player plugged in and you are watching a movie, the backlight won't stay on. i have tested this on my h300 with a current build. |
| 21:13:44 | Mouser_X | Odd. Watching videos works fine for me. The only time the backlight turns off is when I turn the "HOLD" switch on (which, in the settings, I have it set to turn off the backlight when the "HOLD" switch is on). |
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| 21:14:07 | Mouser_X | Though, I have a Gigabeat, and it's not a current build. |
| 21:14:18 | Mouser_X | (My build is a few weeks old.) |
| 21:16:15 | webguest70 | yes for me too but this is a intended behaviour of course... can you test it while your player is plugged in? and maybe decrease the lcd time out (for "while plugged in) first |
| 21:16:48 | Mouser_X | Hmmm. Sorry, I had forgotten that part. |
| 21:19:24 | Mouser_X | Give me a minute... I'm copying files from my Gigabeat, through a USB 1.0 port... |
| 21:19:38 | Mouser_X | (in other words, I still need to disconnect it.) |
| 21:21:59 | rasher | The backlight code was reworked yesterday, you need to updated to test this |
| 21:22:25 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
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| 21:22:52 | Mouser_X | I haven't checked the updates in awhile, since I've been more concerned with my computer problems... |
| 21:23:41 | Mouser_X | (In a way, this is probably a good thing, since the current status says it'll take 35 min. to copy the files...) |
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| 21:24:57 | webguest70 | yes, but i found the problem still a few days ago...but i tested with a current build to make sure it's still present |
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| 21:45:57 | Llorean | webguest70: Which SVN revision did you find the bug with. This is an old problem, and I believe should have been fixed. |
| 21:45:57 | rasher | Remember Africam? mms://live.wildlife.wavelit.net/afsoiud214 |
| 21:46:05 | rasher | Oops. |
| 21:46:58 | webguest70 | my version is r14283-070811 |
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| 21:47:38 | Llorean | webguest70: And you're experiencing the problem, right now, with that revision? |
| 21:47:52 | webguest70 | yes i do |
| 21:48:06 | Llorean | Then please file a proper bug report describing clearly how to reproduce it |
| 21:48:31 | webguest70 | will do:) thank you |
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| 22:27:40 | dionoea | Anyone know how to load the Apple iPod OS in IDA Pro? |
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| 23:00:12 | homielowe | dionoea: some unknown person posted some helpful stuff on pastebin on the 9th @ 2300, here a copy http://pastebin.ca/653845 |
| 23:01:13 | homielowe | also http://pastebin.ca/653848 |
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| 23:27:23 | fm2 | GodEater_: ping |
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| 23:44:13 | fm2 | Hrm... I seem to always catch the still time here |
| 23:44:32 | fm2 | And with no GodEater inside |
| 23:44:33 | Bagder | very still atm indeed |
| 23:45:23 | Domonoky | everybody is codeing (hopefully ) :-) |
| 23:46:05 | rasher | Bagder: seen my question? |
| 23:46:13 | * | petur tries to recover from westmalle triple :) |
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| 23:46:14 | Bagder | no... |
| 23:46:34 | rasher | Bagder: 21:05 |
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| 23:47:23 | Bagder | rasher: ah, good idea on the hash thing |
| 23:47:39 | rasher | I imagine this is what caused FS #7575 |
| 23:47:59 | Bagder | right, good thinking! |
| 23:51:35 | rasher | Working fine, although I get quite a few re-uses, even on the first run. Are there really so many identical (empty?) strings? |
| 23:51:36 | fm2 | petur: good luck! |
| 23:52:33 | petur | wow, the delta table is almost completely green.... |
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| 23:56:05 | petur | Bagder: re 7583: I can remember this issue, I thought it was fixed... |
| 23:56:23 | Bagder | yeah, I fixed it... and then reverted it again since the fix was crap |
| 23:56:33 | petur | oh... |
| 23:56:52 | petur | I failed to remember that you reverted it |
| 23:57:06 | Bagder | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/makesrc.inc?r1=13414&r2=13415 |
| 23:57:44 | Bagder | that's the actual revert |
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