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| 00:16:01 | petur | any suggestion on how to call the units for peak release? it's expressed in scale units per HZ |
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| 00:17:15 | DerPapst | scale_units_per_hz? |
| 00:17:18 | DerPapst | :P |
| 00:19:38 | parafin | just_some_unit :) |
| 00:20:01 | * | petur goes hunting old lang files because it existed in the past |
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| 00:32:50 | petur | Bagder: around? |
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| 00:35:22 | petur | nevermind, found it... |
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| 01:16:11 | xxhotman198 | all these people and no comments lol |
| 01:16:34 | hcs | xxhotman198: only the wise can see our conversations |
| 01:16:50 | petur | rofl |
| 01:17:42 | xxhotman198 | the wise dont need to use mirc for conversations |
| 01:18:14 | petur | no, the wise use a decent irc client :p |
| 01:18:30 | xxhotman198 | which is... |
| 01:18:47 | * | petur is using konversation atm |
| 01:19:19 | * | hcs uses gaim, but never claimed to be among the wise |
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| 01:20:17 | xxhotman198 | Im only claiming to be a wise ass |
| 01:20:45 | hcs | likewise :) |
| 01:20:45 | * | petur is just claiming to be tired... 'night |
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| 01:21:32 | xxhotman198 | so when r we gonna be able to play xbox360 games on S30 lol |
| 01:22:03 | xxhotman198 | sry Im just a dumb ass |
| 01:22:18 | xxhotman198 | gnight |
| 01:22:18 | hcs | In all seriousness, we generally just have technical discussions here. People make an effort to read all the logs to keep up to date, so idle chatter is discourages. |
| 01:22:32 | xxhotman198 | oh ok |
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| 01:25:40 | toffe82 | nobody wants a gigabeat F40 with rockbox install for 125$ :http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-MEG-F40S-40GB-MP3-w-Rockbox-software_W0QQitemZ320149268984QQihZ011QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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| 01:34:52 | Evilador | can someone help me with the sansa e250 installation of rockbox, i messed up my MP3 player and can't access it via USB |
| 01:35:35 | Evilador | When I placed the rockbox files on the mp3 player i didn't place them in the .rockbox directory now i can't access via MP3 |
| 01:37:14 | Evilador | Does anyone have the Windows drivers for Sansa e250 so I can access it via USB |
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| 01:40:24 | Evilador | anyone know anything about RockBox in here |
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| 01:44:20 | Soap | is that your auction toffe82 ? |
| 01:45:54 | GRaTT | I have made changes to plugin.c to be able to call a plugin from a plugin. This works but... |
| 01:45:57 | Soap | nope, I guess not - I see the Wisconson location. |
| 01:46:09 | GRaTT | I get an undefined instruction when exiting the called plugin. |
| 01:46:42 | GRaTT | any ideas how I can force the first pluging to quit when the second is called?? |
| 01:49:55 | DerPapst | no. good night ;) |
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| 01:53:17 | toffe82 | Soap: no :) |
| 01:54:15 | Dyvn | Does anyone know when RockBox will be working for the ipod nano second generation? |
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| 01:57:10 | Soap | possibly never |
| 01:57:25 | Soap | but nobody _could_ know as nobody is working on it. |
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| 01:58:49 | Dyvn | Ah, alright. Thank-you. |
| 01:59:13 | Dyvn | Certainly makes me regret buying an ipod second gen. :S |
| 01:59:36 | Soap | I sold my 2GB model for enough cash to get a brand new 4GB first gen. |
| 01:59:52 | Soap | and $40 extra spending cash |
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| 02:00:49 | Dyvn | Awesome. Doubt I'd find someone willing to buy an ipod around where I live. :P |
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| 02:14:31 | GRaTT | Anybody here good with Rockbox bitmap image display. lcd_bitmap() |
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| 02:31:37 | Evilador | When I connect my Sandisk Sansa to my computer via USB im not able to browse the files |
| 02:31:46 | Evilador | Windows dones't recongnize the device |
| 02:31:55 | Evilador | Any help please |
| 02:32:12 | JdGordon | is it set to mtp? or msc?> |
| 02:32:42 | Evilador | How do you change that setting in Rockbox |
| 02:32:45 | Evilador | I can't find it |
| 02:33:56 | tumu | original sansa firmware has it |
| 02:34:02 | tumu | rockbox does not support usb yet |
| 02:34:11 | Evilador | How do I load the original fireware |
| 02:34:16 | Evilador | firmware |
| 02:34:17 | tumu | press left while turning power on |
| 02:34:28 | tumu | or hookup usb while powering on |
| 02:35:15 | Evilador | I placed the .rockbox folder onto the player and used sansapatcher program to override the bootloader |
| 02:35:17 | tumu | all this is mentioned in the user guide |
| 02:36:23 | Evilador | It not mentioned |
| 02:36:36 | Evilador | they assume USB connections will work |
| 02:36:38 | Evilador | mine doesn't |
| 02:36:55 | tumu | rockbox does not support usb yet |
| 02:37:02 | tumu | use sansa original firmware for that |
| 02:38:08 | Evilador | how do I use the original firmware |
| 02:38:16 | Evilador | is it still installed on my sansa |
| 02:38:24 | tumu | press left while turning power on |
| 02:38:27 | Evilador | I didn't override anything |
| 02:38:44 | Llorean | The easiest way is to turn off your sansa, and while it's turned off, plug in the USB cable and wait |
| 02:39:25 | tumu | Llorean, i always do the left key routine because of the OF db update messing with usb detection |
| 02:40:43 | Llorean | tumu: I've never had it mess with USB connection on any of my computers. Odd. |
| 02:41:07 | Evilador | Wow |
| 02:41:13 | Llorean | Have you reported the DB update as interfering to Sandisk? It seems the kind of thing they'd want to fix, since it would probably cause a lot of confused users for them too. |
| 02:41:14 | Evilador | Thank you guys so much :) |
| 02:41:16 | Evilador | Thanks |
| 02:41:17 | Evilador | Thanks |
| 02:41:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Evilador |
| 02:41:18 | Evilador | Thanks |
| 02:41:37 | tumu | Evilador, next time read the guides |
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| 02:41:46 | Evilador | Ive been playing around with this thing for a couple days now and couldn't figure it out |
| 02:41:48 | Evilador | Will do |
| 02:41:50 | Evilador | Thanks again |
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| 02:42:52 | tumu | Llorean, haven't and simple replug fixes it after the db update anyway |
| 02:43:26 | tumu | i tend to just turn it on and plug it after the db update |
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| 02:45:23 | TTSbox | Hi, I had been using the wmware debian linux from rockbox site for development |
| 02:45:32 | TTSbox | but now I bought a new laptop |
| 02:45:37 | TTSbox | with vista |
| 02:46:05 | TTSbox | AFAIK vista doesn't support vmware |
| 02:46:24 | TTSbox | do you have any recommendations for development on Vista |
| 02:46:27 | TTSbox | ? |
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| 02:48:59 | Llorean | TTSbox: I'm pretty sure it works. Have you tried it? |
| 02:49:04 | tumu | maybe try the cygwin dev install |
| 02:49:44 | TTSbox | yeah maybe I should go cygwin direction |
| 02:50:35 | Llorean | Why not try VMWare first, and verify whether it works... |
| 02:50:41 | TTSbox | I couldn't try since http://www.vmware.com/maintenance/temp_maintenance.html |
| 02:50:57 | TTSbox | vmware site is off for maintenance today. |
| 02:51:39 | Llorean | I'm pretty sure it's that certain versions of Vista are resistant to being virtualized, not the other way around. Though I'm not certain. |
| 02:52:09 | TTSbox | Oh I found another download site |
| 02:52:13 | TTSbox | I may try it now |
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| 03:02:18 | TTSbox | Ok, it works with vista |
| 03:02:19 | TTSbox | Windows Vista support - You can use Windows Vista as a host and guest operating system. |
| 03:02:33 | TTSbox | VMware Player 2.0 |
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| 03:51:32 | webguest81 | Hi Guys .....just a quick question.....can the gigabeat still play music and access the menu system while hooked to the USB???? |
| 03:52:38 | Llorean | Not if you're using it for file transfer. |
| 03:52:45 | Llorean | If you hold Menu so you're in charge-only mode, yes. |
| 03:53:18 | webguest81 | Cool thankyou thats awesome!!! |
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| 05:48:42 | Lizzard | Hello |
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| 05:50:48 | saratoga | preglow: those ffmpeg people actually benchmarked a few fft implementations |
| 05:50:59 | saratoga | i want to look into trying them on ARM |
| 05:51:10 | saratoga | might be cool to see what a split radix version can do on arm |
| 05:51:16 | saratoga | or coldfire too |
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| 05:53:41 | Lizzard | Is this the right place to ask rockbox questions? |
| 05:54:48 | Llorean | Yes, assuming they aren't in the documentation. |
| 05:55:33 | Lizzard | Hmm.. |
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| 06:15:13 | DogBoy | does the sansa not charge very fast? |
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| 07:36:34 | hfliezfh | DogBoy: it charges more slowly under rockbox than under the OF |
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| 09:41:32 | ashok | hi all |
| 09:43:24 | ashok | hallo |
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| 09:43:52 | markun | hi ashok |
| 09:52:28 | markun | ashok: got a question, or just saying hi? |
| 09:56:29 | ashok | i need to know if i can uninstall rockbox after installinh whtout harming the original OS |
| 09:56:41 | linuxstb_ | What device do you have? |
| 09:57:16 | linuxstb_ | AFAIK, the only target where a Rockbox installation in non-reversible is the iriver H3xx - you lose the DRM capability forever. |
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| 09:57:55 | markun | so only for the US version of the H300, right? |
| 09:57:57 | ashok | ok |
| 09:58:06 | linuxstb_ | markun: Yes. |
| 09:58:08 | ashok | i got ipod 3)GB video (5.5G) |
| 09:58:22 | ashok | i mean 30GB |
| 09:58:59 | linuxstb_ | ashok: On the ipods, you always have the option of a restore via itunes - this restores your ipod to factory settings. But that's a last resort - the manual describes how to uninstall Rockbox, and you can dual-boot when Rockbox is installed. |
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| 10:04:33 | Llorean | GodEater_: Alright, before I respond, whose problem are we talking about. |
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| 10:04:51 | Llorean | "Other thread" "First poster in that thread" or "Guy in that thread who says 'I have the exact same problem'"? |
| 10:05:46 | linuxstb_ | markun: Does the gigabeat bootloader enable interrupts? (IIUC, it doesn't) |
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| 10:34:29 | n1s | Llorean: can I habe one of those flashy badges in the forum? |
| 10:35:35 | Llorean | n1s: You're nls in the forums, or? |
| 10:35:42 | n1s | yes |
| 10:36:15 | Llorean | Should be done now |
| 10:36:21 | n1s | thanks! :-) |
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| 10:36:36 | n1s | yup working fine |
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| 10:38:21 | markun | linuxstb_: no, the bootloader doesn't |
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| 10:40:40 | linuxstb_ | markun: I was about to ask how you handle sleep(), but see you've implemented a special case for the gigabeat bootloader... |
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| 10:41:43 | * | linuxstb_ has resumed the av300 port |
| 10:41:48 | * | Llorean cheers |
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| 10:44:08 | n1s | linuxstb_: this change might become a nice gotcha for you if you try to build a bootloader for it... http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/configure?r1=14212&r2=14217&pathrev=14386 |
| 10:45:30 | linuxstb_ | n1s: Yes, that got me. I changed it to test for cpu type instead of manufacturer. |
| 10:45:46 | n1s | ok, good |
| 10:46:39 | linuxstb_ | The bootloader now compiles and links - I now need to make it do something... |
| 10:54:54 | einhirn | Hello, does anyone use Replaygain on a software platform? |
| 10:55:12 | einhirn | Could they just try something for me? |
| 10:55:37 | markun | I use replaygain, but what do you mean by software platform? |
| 10:55:48 | linuxstb_ | swcodec I assume |
| 10:55:52 | markun | ah |
| 10:55:56 | einhirn | Yes ;) |
| 10:56:05 | einhirn | my bad |
| 10:56:10 | linuxstb_ | But there's nowhere else anyone could be using it... (atm) |
| 10:57:16 | einhirn | I found something in the code which I think is wrong and I wanted to try if it was really wrong - only I don't have a player with swcodec. |
| 10:58:09 | einhirn | markun: can you try turning up the "Pregain"? Does that change the volume much? |
| 10:58:13 | linuxstb_ | I think it should work in the sim though. |
| 10:58:38 | einhirn | Note to self: Build sim and try ;) |
| 10:59:39 | markun | einhirn: yes, it does |
| 10:59:56 | markun | did you think that was a bug? |
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| 11:00:48 | einhirn | Hmm, according to my understanding of fixed point calculation it shouldn't get much louder ;) |
| 11:00:48 | einhirn | Maybe we can handle this in theory: I found that "dsp_set_replaygain()" in dsp.c converts the pregain value from the configuration with the routines in replaygain.c |
| 11:01:27 | einhirn | Then it multiplies the converted value (a 19.12 Fixed Point from my understanding) to a 7.24 Fixedpoint gain value. |
| 11:02:11 | einhirn | So either I don't understand it correctly or the calculation is wrong ;) |
| 11:02:22 | markun | at least it doesn't sound wrong |
| 11:02:43 | markun | (rockbox doesn't sound wrong I mean) |
| 11:02:47 | einhirn | *g* yes - at least. |
| 11:02:51 | n1s | einhirn: try to get ahold of Lear when he's around he coded the ReplayGain for swcodec |
| 11:02:58 | Lear | I'm here... |
| 11:03:53 | n1s | ah, hi :-) |
| 11:04:02 | einhirn | Lear: Can you enlighten me about this particular multiplication? |
| 11:04:23 | Lear | Which one, more exactly? |
| 11:05:13 | einhirn | line 1386 in dsp.c |
| 11:05:59 | einhirn | I think (as said above) that it cannot be right because the fixed point format of gain and preamp differ. |
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| 11:09:06 | Lear | Both come from convert_gain in replaygain.c, so the formats should be the same... |
| 11:10:42 | einhirn | But "track_gain" is set from "id3->track_gain" which in turn is a 7.24 Fixed point. |
| 11:10:52 | einhirn | according to a comment. |
| 11:11:23 | einhirn | while convert_gain produces the 19.12 fixed point I was talking about... |
| 11:11:40 | * | einhirn greps around in source code. |
| 11:11:42 | Lear | No, the last thing convert_gain does is to adjust to 7.24. |
| 11:12:00 | Lear | And convert_gain is used to calculate the track_gain value too. |
| 11:12:27 | einhirn | Ok, then there is a comment that was misleading. |
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| 11:13:09 | einhirn | Oh, concerning comments: line 1409 in dsp.c seems to be out of place... |
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| 11:13:59 | einhirn | The operation to that comment is (i think) found in line 857 of dsp.c |
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| 11:15:33 | Lear | That would make sense, yes... |
| 11:15:51 | Lear | Which comment was misleading, by the way? |
| 11:16:13 | einhirn | firmware/export/id3.h: long track_gain; /* 7.24 signed fixed point. 0 for no gain. */ |
| 11:16:13 | einhirn | firmware/export/id3.h- long album_gain; |
| 11:17:28 | einhirn | Which isn't the case since it's produced by get_replaygain_int |
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| 11:18:33 | einhirn | (at least in apps/metadata/mpc.c) |
| 11:20:03 | Lear | But get_replaygain_int calls convert_gain too, and returns a 7.24 value too. |
| 11:21:46 | einhirn | Waitaminit - I was really convinced that all in "replaygain.c" was 19.12... |
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| 11:23:26 | einhirn | Oh, it seems that I misread that one line... |
| 11:23:32 | Lear | Yes, all calculations are done in 19.12, but return values are 7.24. That bit could be easy to miss, I guess. :) |
| 11:24:13 | einhirn | Yes thats what I missed: << (24 - FP_BITS) |
| 11:25:02 | einhirn | Ok, then - two days of hurting head for nothing... |
| 11:25:03 | einhirn | ;) |
| 11:25:16 | * | einhirn slaps his forehead |
| 11:26:16 | einhirn | Thanks for that clarification ;) |
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| 11:27:32 | kratonator | hi all |
| 11:27:58 | kratonator | i have a question...it might sound stupid but... |
| 11:28:12 | markun | just ask :) |
| 11:28:25 | kratonator | why cant i see the .rockbox folder on my 3rd gen ipod? i can see it on my sansa... |
| 11:28:35 | kratonator | (using rockbox) |
| 11:28:50 | ddalton | select show all files |
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| 11:30:01 | kratonator | thanks, haven't thought about that one... |
| 11:30:55 | kratonator | i didnt have to select "show all files" it on my sansa though... |
| 11:30:57 | kratonator | strange |
| 11:31:37 | ddalton | well I don't know why. did it work? I have to do that on my iriver. Maybe it is a bug. |
| 11:31:51 | kratonator | it did work |
| 11:31:59 | ddalton | good |
| 11:32:25 | kratonator | i thought there is yet again an apple related problem...:)) |
| 11:33:29 | ddalton | why would it be an apple problem? aren't you using rockbox. And maybe it is a bug with your other player because the same thing happens on the iriver. |
| 11:34:09 | ddalton | maybe all folders with the . starting there name are only shown when not in all files mode. |
| 11:34:16 | ddalton | I don't know |
| 11:34:28 | kratonator | whatever...i can now design wps' directly on the player |
| 11:34:37 | ddalton | how? |
| 11:34:42 | markun | kratonator: good luck |
| 11:34:55 | ddalton | with the text editor? |
| 11:34:58 | markun | is the editor good enough to work with? |
| 11:35:03 | kratonator | yeah, sabayonlinux also hides folders starting wiht "." |
| 11:35:06 | kratonator | yes |
| 11:35:15 | ddalton | I would have thought it would take a long time. |
| 11:35:23 | kratonator | and for the ipod grayscale wps i dont need to write too many things |
| 11:35:45 | kratonator | but it works |
| 11:36:02 | kratonator | i added album art for a lot of themes for the sansa |
| 11:36:19 | ddalton | what would be nice is voice for the text editor. I know not possible. And it would probably be anoying having a whole document spelled. |
| 11:36:20 | kratonator | all of them were edited on the player itself |
| 11:36:47 | ddalton | won't the click wheel on the ipod make it hard? |
| 11:37:24 | kratonator | but the wps file is almost only @#$%^& characters...it would be a pain in the *** to listen to that:D |
| 11:37:44 | kratonator | the clickwheel makes it easier |
| 11:37:54 | kratonator | as you can cycle through the letters faster |
| 11:38:20 | ddalton | does it? I hate the nano click wheel. |
| 11:38:30 | n1s | ddalton: voiceing of plugins is certainly not impossible, it's just that no-one has done it yet :-) |
| 11:38:33 | ddalton | just a slight touch makes it do something. |
| 11:38:44 | kratonator | well i have the 3rd gen...it doesnt have the click wheeel |
| 11:38:59 | ddalton | so navigating through menus is anoying because I usually skip some not meaning to. |
| 11:39:07 | kratonator | it has a touch sensible wheel but its not the click wheel |
| 11:39:14 | ddalton | what does it have? |
| 11:39:27 | ddalton | so how is it used? |
| 11:39:42 | kratonator | http://www.heylonghorn.com/img/3808_19160qPjpt8QmdcL.jpg |
| 11:40:00 | ddalton | well is that a photo? |
| 11:40:11 | kratonator | its almost the same thing...but it doesnt have buttons |
| 11:40:14 | kratonator | yeah |
| 11:40:19 | kratonator | its a photo |
| 11:40:38 | ddalton | It is a bit hard to look at it when I can't see. but don't worry. |
| 11:40:57 | kratonator | sorry, didn't knew that |
| 11:41:41 | kratonator | its basicly the same touch sensible wheel but it doesnt have buttons on it |
| 11:41:51 | ddalton | ok that's fine |
| 11:41:54 | kratonator | the four buttons are placed on the top |
| 11:42:01 | ddalton | does rockbox use sizeof? |
| 11:42:31 | kratonator | i dont know |
| 11:42:38 | n1s | ddalton: yes |
| 11:42:49 | ddalton | n1s: what for? |
| 11:42:50 | n1s | or rather the compiler uses it most of the time |
| 11:42:55 | Lear | n1s: Those keylock messages don't quite fit on an archos player... |
| 11:43:03 | n1s | to find out the size of something |
| 11:43:18 | ddalton | and then do what with that infomation? |
| 11:43:25 | ddalton | what for file sizes? |
| 11:43:27 | n1s | Lear: according to amiconn they would, the splash will word wrap and have two lines |
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| 11:43:47 | Lear | Ah, didn't think about that... :) |
| 11:44:03 | kratonator | does somebody know if FS #6733 still works? |
| 11:44:11 | Lear | ddalton: sizeof isn't for files... |
| 11:44:25 | kratonator | it tried to compile yesterday and it didnt compile correctly |
| 11:44:26 | ddalton | so what does rockbox use it for then? |
| 11:44:33 | n1s | ddalton: it returns the size in bytes of a data type |
| 11:44:51 | ddalton | so then what does rockbox do with that information? |
| 11:45:08 | n1s | for example sizeof(long) will return 4 on any of our targets but 8 on a 64 bit machine |
| 11:45:28 | n1s | ddalton: it's useful when foing stuff like memcpy and memset |
| 11:45:36 | n1s | s/foing/doing |
| 11:46:24 | Lear | It's better to use sizeof than to assume anything about how much memory a variable uses. If the size should change for any reason, sizeof will still be correct. A must for structs, since you have alignments issues there. |
| 11:46:53 | ddalton | about p6733 it should but does it apply cleanly? |
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| 11:48:21 | ddalton | kratonator: it should but do you get hunk errors? |
| 11:48:35 | ddalton | p6733 I am talking about. |
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| 11:57:18 | Lear | n1s: Another lang thing: Should LANG_DISK_FULL and LANG_SYSFONT_DISK_FULL really differ the way they do? |
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| 12:00:49 | kratonator | yes, if i remember correcty i got hunk errors |
| 12:00:54 | n1s | Lear: yes, because they are cancelled by different actions, one by ACTION_FM_STOP and the other by ACTION_STD_CANCEL |
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| 12:02:47 | markun | kratonator: what you could try is update rockbox to the date of the patch, apply is, then update to now again and fix the conflicts |
| 12:04:14 | kratonator | i am not that savvy...but ill try... |
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| 12:04:42 | kratonator | what can i do when i see such a conflict? |
| 12:08:50 | ddalton | kratonator: I am looking at it just give me a second |
| 12:09:31 | kratonator | oh |
| 12:09:31 | ddalton | I don't know if I will be able to fix it but I will try. I also want to make a splash screen from that patch voice as well. |
| 12:09:45 | kratonator | thank you, very kind from you |
| 12:09:53 | ddalton | so what do you like about the patch? |
| 12:10:10 | kratonator | it doesn't compile |
| 12:10:40 | kratonator | i don't remember what error message i get but... |
| 12:12:21 | ddalton | I am just checking out. |
| 12:12:23 | ddalton | svn |
| 12:13:22 | ddalton | so you get hunk errors? |
| 12:13:33 | ddalton | or does it apply cleanly but not compile? |
| 12:13:59 | kratonator | apply cleanly but not compile IIRC |
| 12:14:50 | ddalton | so there are no hunk errors? |
| 12:15:13 | kratonator | i guess not |
| 12:15:28 | ddalton | well can you apply it now and see? |
| 12:15:29 | kratonator | but i tried to add so many patches that didnt work... |
| 12:15:42 | kratonator | if you wait a minute or two |
| 12:16:03 | ddalton | it will just make it easier if they are hunk errors not code errors. |
| 12:16:24 | ddalton | but since you have had it working before I would have thought the code would be ok. |
| 12:16:44 | kratonator | i didn't have it work before |
| 12:16:53 | kratonator | that's the problem |
| 12:17:16 | ddalton | well just try one tell me the other patches as well. But when you are testing a patch you shouldn't add more patches. Then it is easier to find the problem. |
| 12:17:37 | ddalton | so it has never worked? |
| 12:18:05 | kratonator | i know...i just tried one patch, didnt work, than another one...didnt work either...and so on |
| 12:18:21 | kratonator | no, never worked |
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| 12:18:25 | ddalton | so you have never got this patch to work at all? |
| 12:18:59 | ddalton | ok |
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| 12:19:13 | ddalton | I will try to fix it. But no garrentees |
| 12:19:18 | ddalton | i will be able to |
| 12:19:26 | kratonator19 | switched to sabayonlinux |
| 12:21:13 | kratonator19 | ok |
| 12:21:27 | kratonator19 | 2 hunks out of 8 failed |
| 12:21:49 | ddalton | is that with p6733? |
| 12:22:24 | kratonator19 | yes |
| 12:22:34 | ddalton | ok that must be the problem |
| 12:22:44 | kratonator19 | should i paste the output? |
| 12:23:05 | ddalton | no the rej files. |
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| 12:24:41 | kratonator19 | rej files? |
| 12:25:28 | ddalton | yes if a hunk fails on english.lang for example, you then should locate the file english.lang.rej and paste its contance |
| 12:25:43 | ddalton | on a website not on here because it won't fit. |
| 12:26:15 | kratonator19 | pastebin or something |
| 12:26:22 | kratonator19 | but i can find it |
| 12:26:38 | ddalton | try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 12:27:09 | kratonator19 | it should be in the same folder with the patch? |
| 12:27:39 | kratonator19 | wiat |
| 12:27:52 | ddalton | no the file it failed to patch for example if english.lang failed it would be in /apps/lang |
| 12:28:05 | kratonator19 | found it... |
| 12:28:17 | ddalton | this check out is taking for ever of the source. |
| 12:28:27 | ddalton | it has been like 40 minutes |
| 12:29:40 | kratonator19 | heres the first one |
| 12:29:57 | ddalton | where? |
| 12:30:09 | kratonator19 | http://pastebin.ca/663167 |
| 12:30:23 | ddalton | got it didn't see your message |
| 12:31:31 | kratonator19 | and heres the second one |
| 12:31:34 | kratonator19 | http://pastebin.ca/663168 |
| 12:31:45 | ddalton | is that all? |
| 12:32:09 | kratonator19 | yes |
| 12:32:15 | kratonator19 | only two hunks failed |
| 12:33:27 | ddalton | don't you mean two files. Did only one hunk fail from each file? And what files were they? |
| 12:34:18 | kratonator19 | hunk #4 failed |
| 12:34:19 | kratonator19 | at |
| 12:34:26 | kratonator19 | 723 |
| 12:34:42 | ddalton | what files? |
| 12:34:56 | kratonator19 | main_menu.c |
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| 12:35:17 | kratonator19 | and the second one powermgmt.c |
| 12:35:55 | ddalton | ok |
| 12:36:17 | ddalton | ok now I have finally got the source |
| 12:36:55 | ddalton | do I apply with p0 or p1? |
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| 12:37:28 | kratonator | p0 |
| 12:37:43 | ddalton | ok |
| 12:38:01 | kratonator | i dont know if its ok or not though |
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| 12:51:45 | ddalton | this line is from a patch shutdown_timeout += HZ*20; should the + be removed? |
| 12:51:59 | ddalton | from the file it should go into |
| 12:52:11 | kratonator | are you asking me? |
| 12:52:29 | aliask | ddalton: No, that is the same as "shutdown_timeout = shutdown_timeout + HZ*20;" |
| 12:52:31 | ddalton | anyone who knows. it is p6733 I am working on. |
| 12:52:52 | ddalton | aliask thanks for that I will leave it. |
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| 12:59:54 | smail | is there any help ida pro ? i got a copy but i'am totaly new to all that |
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| 13:01:14 | smail | any reading to recommend ? |
| 13:01:21 | markun | smail: what are you planning to do? |
| 13:02:04 | smail | disassemble the rom of my elio |
| 13:02:32 | ddalton | is "reboot" a function or a variable? |
| 13:02:39 | ddalton | because I get an error. |
| 13:03:32 | markun | smail: load the file, select the correct CPU type and then you need to press a button at some address to start disassembling (C or L of something) |
| 13:03:37 | markun | but ida will tell you |
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| 13:05:01 | linuxstb | markun: The Elio bootloader is a mixture of ARM and Thumb code - so I assume IDA Pro has an option for that/ |
| 13:05:02 | linuxstb | ? |
| 13:05:24 | markun | no idea |
| 13:05:47 | markun | perhaps it will switch automatically |
| 13:06:59 | petur | I thought it didn't - maybe it depends on the version of ida |
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| 13:18:05 | barrywardell | petur: I was looking at the usb stuff a bit more |
| 13:18:22 | barrywardell | i see that austriancoder got error -71 |
| 13:19:05 | barrywardell | which looks like EPROTO in the linux source (http://lxr.linux.no/source/include/asm-generic/errno.h#L44) |
| 13:21:18 | petur | barrywardell: I haven't had much time for this. austriancoder claims the setaddress is handled (which I don't see in the code) and that the sending is failing. I will have an H10 5GB tomorrow noon so I'll be joining the debugging ;) |
| 13:22:33 | barrywardell | petur: and IIUC that only happens in usb_get_descriptor() if bytes are transferred (http://lxr.linux.no/ident?i=usb_get_descriptor) |
| 13:22:42 | aliask | petur: I was thinking, would the USB code be applicable to the gigabeat s? If so, I'd like to test on it. |
| 13:22:54 | barrywardell | petur: I think set address is handled all right |
| 13:23:24 | barrywardell | aliask: I think it would be - you just have to change the base address |
| 13:23:45 | aliask | Which is the current patch? |
| 13:23:49 | * | barrywardell looks forward to petur getting a delivery |
| 13:24:18 | barrywardell | aliask: I'm using this: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/mrh_try_barry.diff |
| 13:24:23 | ddalton | I created a new file in the rockbox source how do I tell the patch this? |
| 13:24:28 | barrywardell | not sure if austriancoder has anything more recent |
| 13:25:04 | scorche | oh fun..."begin final evaluations" is tomorrow |
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| 13:27:14 | barrywardell | petur: also, here's some usb debug messages from my mac: http://pastebin.ca/663203 |
| 13:28:10 | barrywardell | there are no errors about "GetDeviceZeroDescriptor (size: 8)", just errors for "GetDeviceDescriptor (size 18)" |
| 13:28:23 | markun | petur: what does the USB code do so far? |
| 13:28:31 | ddalton | and then run svn diff >filename after that? |
| 13:29:13 | ddalton | and filename is like: /apps/menus/power_menu.c in my case? |
| 13:30:06 | linuxstb | ddalton: You need to (locally) add it to svn - "svn add apps/menus/power_menu.c" |
| 13:31:34 | linuxstb | aliask: Does the gigabeat s only have a software usb mode? i.e. there's no ata<->usb bridge? |
| 13:31:55 | aliask | linuxstb: Correct (iiuc) |
| 13:32:13 | barrywardell | it has the same usb controller as PP |
| 13:32:36 | barrywardell | or at least register compatible |
| 13:32:53 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Yes, I was just wondering if there was a hardware bridge as well. |
| 13:33:02 | barrywardell | ah, ok |
| 13:33:19 | aliask | I'm basing my assumptions on this diagram: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatSInfo?rev=1;filename=gigabeat_s60_logic_block_diagram.png |
| 13:34:50 | petur | barrywardell: it's not really a delivery, more a pick-up ;) |
| 13:35:36 | Lear | Anyone know of a Windows program creating RVA2 ID3V2 frames? |
| 13:35:54 | petur | I found somebody 10 minutes from my work and managed to get him drop the price from 100 to 75 euro |
| 13:36:14 | barrywardell | even better! |
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| 13:38:03 | petur | barrywardell : would you agree that getting the first 8 bytes seems to work and then it fails? To be sure, can you run the same test with sending disabled in the code. Just to be sure that the mac isn't requesting the 18 bytes regardless of the previous |
| 13:38:06 | petur | aaargh |
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| 13:45:16 | Lear | Seems MediaMonkey does it... |
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| 14:16:56 | barrywardell | petur: when you get back. I tried disabling the usb_send() like you suggested and I get a different result |
| 14:18:18 | barrywardell | petur: my mac now complains like so: http://pastebin.ca/663235 |
| 14:18:46 | barrywardell | so it no longer receives the 8 bytes for GetDeviceZeroDescriptor |
| 14:20:42 | barrywardell | to me that sounds like the send is indeed sending 8 bytes as it should, but maybe the bytes it is sending are wrong somehow (that would agree with the error -71 austriancoder had on linux too) |
| 14:20:58 | barrywardell | I also get done=8 as the result of usb_send() |
| 14:22:32 | barrywardell | when the send is enabled |
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| 14:26:45 | barrywardell | also, with usb_send() disabled just in the case of the device descriptor, I get in logf the sequence: bRequest = 6,6,6,6,5 followed by TIMEOUT->port |
| 14:27:07 | barrywardell | so setaddress happens without getting the descriptor first |
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| 14:37:33 | barrywardell | hmmm...ibss means zeroed data, right? |
| 14:38:16 | barrywardell | if it is, then I don't think devdsc, dqdsc, or confdata should be ibss |
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| 14:51:11 | * | barrywardell thinks that he has figured out the usb send problem |
| 14:51:30 | barrywardell | it was the ibss: we were sending ok, but just sending zeroes! |
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| 14:52:13 | BigBambi | congrats! |
| 14:52:55 | aliask | barrywardell: Nice! How well does it work (if at all) now? |
| 14:53:15 | barrywardell | I still don't get a drive appearing |
| 14:54:38 | aliask | More problems with transfer, or simply unwritten msc stuff? |
| 14:57:02 | barrywardell | but it sends the device descriptor (8 bytes), sets the address, sends the full device descriptor (18 bytes), sends the configuration descriptor (4 bytes), sends the full configuration descriptor (18 bytes), |
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| 15:00:10 | barrywardell | then sends device descriptor (18 bytes), sends config descriptor (4 bytes), sends full config descriptor (18 bytes), sends the dqd (10 bytes), then gets a request type 7 which we don't deal with |
| 15:00:33 | barrywardell | i.e. s-wValue>>8 = 7 |
| 15:00:45 | barrywardell | aliask: looks like the transfer is good now |
| 15:00:50 | webguest86 | hi guy's do you know where i can download x5 bootloader for rockbox?? |
| 15:00:54 | barrywardell | the problems are elsewhere |
| 15:02:20 | aliask | barrywardell: I'm eager to test this all, but it'll require a bit of work because the gigabeat s branch has drifted a bit from trunk. |
| 15:02:47 | barrywardell | aliask: great. here's my current patch: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/mrh_try_barry2.diff |
| 15:03:19 | barrywardell | aliask: you'll have to change the UOG_* defines to use a different base address |
| 15:03:28 | webguest86 | found it. thnx anyway |
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| 15:03:33 | barrywardell | instead of 0xc5000000 |
| 15:04:21 | aliask | And I'm sure I'll have to de-pp it too in terms of where all the code is stored. |
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| 15:04:49 | aliask | Oh, no - doesn't look like I will actually |
| 15:05:02 | barrywardell | exactly, most of the code is in drivers/arcotg_udc.c |
| 15:05:32 | barrywardell | I'm not sure if .irodata is the right thing to use, but it seems to work |
| 15:05:38 | aliask | Do you know if this will work without interrupts? |
| 15:07:25 | barrywardell | the current code doesn't use interrupts |
| 15:07:32 | aliask | excellent. |
| 15:07:39 | barrywardell | kind of anyway |
| 15:08:35 | barrywardell | the usb_int() function just gets called every time the timer ticks |
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| 15:12:27 | barrywardell | anyway, gtg again now. I'll check back in later |
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| 15:18:54 | aliask | austriancoder: Did you just see barry's discovery? |
| 15:19:20 | austriancoder | aliask: yes... I am tring out my selfe right now |
| 15:20:32 | * | austriancoder would be happy to test the stack more with working tx :) |
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| 15:26:48 | austriancoder | for what is __attribute__ ((section(".irodata"))) used? For what is this section? |
| 15:27:04 | austriancoder | barrywardell: I am trying your patch at the moment... |
| 15:28:33 | barrywardell | I think it's read only data in iram |
| 15:28:52 | barrywardell | here's a debug log from my mac: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/USB_Log.txt |
| 15:29:17 | aliask | To quote amiconn when committing something from mid 2005 "allowing to put 'const' data into IRAM without causing a section type conflict" |
| 15:29:22 | barrywardell | you can see around 4022.073 that the correct data is being sent |
| 15:29:36 | austriancoder | barrywardell: yes... thats by there is |
| 15:29:37 | austriancoder | unsigned char buffer[BUFFER_SIZE] __attribute((aligned (1 << 12))) __attribute__ ((section(".ibss"))); |
| 15:30:02 | barrywardell | yes, but that isn't initialized to any value so it's ok |
| 15:30:12 | barrywardell | ibss means that rockbox writes 0's to it on startup |
| 15:30:26 | barrywardell | overwriting whatever was there before |
| 15:30:53 | austriancoder | sure... but when i do a send: |
| 15:30:54 | austriancoder | +usb_send(const void * buf, int size)+{+ const char * ptr = buf;+ int todo, done = 0;+ int error;+logf("usb_send");++ logf("buf[1]=%u",(unsigned char)ptr[1]);+ do {+ if (USB_BUS_RESET) {+ longjmp(reset_env, 1);+ }++ todo = MIN(size, BUFFER_SIZE);++ memcpy(buffer, ptr, todo); |
| 15:30:59 | barrywardell | btw. it looks like everything is working now from that log |
| 15:31:12 | barrywardell | we just don't have a msc device driver yet |
| 15:31:24 | austriancoder | It should copy my data i want to send into that buffer and send it then.. or? |
| 15:31:30 | austriancoder | msc driver is in work... |
| 15:31:33 | barrywardell | yes, it will |
| 15:32:09 | barrywardell | but the data it is copying is from devdsc, which is all zeroes if you put it into ibss |
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| 15:32:38 | austriancoder | barrywardell: was the idea of petur to put everything in iram.. for testing |
| 15:32:40 | austriancoder | barrywardell: |
| 15:32:45 | austriancoder | usb 2-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32usb 2-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choiceusb 2-6: USB disconnect, address 32 |
| 15:32:50 | austriancoder | great :) |
| 15:33:24 | aliask | Good timing too, half an hour until the 20th where I am :) |
| 15:33:25 | barrywardell | yes, in iram, but not ibss, because that overwrites the data. you should use idata or irodata (for read only data) to put non-zero stuff in iram |
| 15:33:30 | barrywardell | austriancoder: great:) |
| 15:33:48 | barrywardell | gotta go again now, but I'll check back later how you're getting on |
| 15:34:11 | austriancoder | barrywardell: thanks you very much... if i see you in real life.. you get two or more beer from me |
| 15:34:19 | barrywardell | :) |
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| 15:36:38 | Soap | do you get to choose your USB device ID since you are writing your own stack? |
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| 15:38:29 | austriancoder | At the moment I dont thinking about the usb device id... at the moment i want to get all running up |
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| 16:16:34 | desowin | austriancoder: congratulations! |
| 16:17:03 | austriancoder | desowin: barry helped me... without him tx would not work |
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| 16:25:17 | dionoea | austriancoder: so you have a native rockbox USB stack working now ? |
| 16:25:54 | austriancoder | dionoea: almost... msc driver is not ready... and some cleanups are needed |
| 16:26:18 | dionoea | cool :) |
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| 16:58:05 | DerPapst | austriancoder, barrywardell: nice work :) |
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| 17:13:52 | chrisjs169 | TX works |
| 17:13:53 | chrisjs169 | ? |
| 17:14:18 | austriancoder | yes |
| 17:14:26 | fadelse | how can i get rockbox on my ipod? |
| 17:14:26 | chrisjs169 | yay |
| 17:14:34 | * | chrisjs169 looks through logs |
| 17:15:42 | parafin | fadelse, http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 17:15:49 | fadelse | thanks |
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| 17:52:14 | Phalangees | Hello everyone. I was wondering if there is an easy way to revert from all patches wihtout redownloading all of SVN. |
| 17:53:15 | markun | Phalangees: "svn revert -R ./" |
| 17:53:32 | markun | without the quotes of course |
| 17:53:45 | Phalangees | Thanks markun! |
| 17:53:50 | markun | np |
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| 18:40:57 | einhirn | Got to go - see you later. |
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| 18:57:24 | parafin | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml - latest source archive link doesn't work |
| 18:57:40 | parafin | periodically |
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| 18:58:18 | thegeek_ | confirmed |
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| 19:01:44 | n1s | works for me |
| 19:04:37 | parafin | The requested URL /daily/source/rockbox-20070819.tar.bz2 was not found on this server. |
| 19:06:18 | iamben | downloads ok for me too |
| 19:06:41 | parafin | 0819? or 0818? |
| 19:07:29 | iamben | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/source/rockbox-20070819.tar.bz2 downloads for me |
| 19:08:00 | parafin | hm |
| 19:08:03 | parafin | now it works |
| 19:08:37 | parafin | but didn't work 5 minutes ago |
| 19:08:49 | Lear | Hrm, seems RVA2 frames doesn't support peaks above full scale... |
| 19:08:49 | scorch999 | heeeeeeeeey ... ok so I've got a Mini i'm trying to restore ... this situation is kind of convoluted, so here goes: replaced the (failed) hard drive with a 4GB CF card, so I don't have any backups of the MBR, boot partition, or any data ... so i've had to repartition it myself ... |
| 19:09:01 | scorch999 | i can get it to boot with the firmware i placed in the first partition |
| 19:09:13 | scorch999 | but i can't get it to be recognized as an ipod for transfer of linux automatically |
| 19:09:36 | scorch999 | and as logs would have it, people in this room have transferred copies of MBR's before |
| 19:09:47 | scorch999 | so if anyone has an MBR from a mini, that would be extremely helpful |
| 19:10:50 | Soap | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
| 19:11:15 | scorch999 | God bless you, Soap. |
| 19:11:16 | scorch999 | :) |
| 19:11:16 | Soap | there is a 4GB partition map for both a 1st and 2nd generation mini there |
| 19:11:50 | Soap | you might need to tweak it - as I doubt your CF card is exactly the same size as your MD was...but I am not 100% sure this is needed. |
| 19:12:05 | Soap | You also realize you need to be running a patched build since you have a CF card? |
| 19:12:30 | scorch999 | i'm not quite to that hurdle yet |
| 19:12:38 | scorch999 | i'm to the "i need this ipod to be recognized as one" bit |
| 19:12:48 | scorch999 | it reports across usb |
| 19:12:49 | Soap | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MiniCF |
| 19:12:56 | scorch999 | k thx |
| 19:12:59 | scorch999 | i'll read up |
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| 19:16:59 | scorch999 | it seems that only affects the 2g mini? |
| 19:17:04 | scorch999 | this is a 1g |
| 19:17:45 | parafin | is there a way to apply patch to svn checkout that new files would be added automatically? |
| 19:18:16 | Soap | I /assumed/ the attempt to perform an ATA sleep would apply to all flash players |
| 19:18:46 | Soap | I'm not sure where you see it's a 1st Gen issue only. |
| 19:19:06 | scorch999 | email 1 on that page |
| 19:19:12 | scorch999 | he asks if it's a 2g issue only |
| 19:19:18 | scorch999 | i guess the concensus was no? |
| 19:19:36 | scorch999 | thanks for the MBR link −− that actually worked! :) |
| 19:19:40 | Soap | I see little concensus from those emails. |
| 19:19:42 | scorch999 | now i have to get the filesystem right |
| 19:19:45 | scorch999 | indeed |
| 19:20:04 | Soap | If I Recall Correctly bluesbrother is using a CF card in his Mini. |
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| 19:33:13 | scorch999 | Sweet |
| 19:33:28 | scorch999 | the firmware did sucessfully write the ipod directory structure to disk |
| 19:33:29 | scorch999 | :) |
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| 20:08:48 | linuxstb | parafin: "svn blame chessbox_pgn.c" is useful in such cases... ;) |
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| 20:24:25 | linuxstb | parafin: Thanks - I've now fixed it in SVN. |
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| 20:30:43 | PaulJam | n1s: there seems to be a problem with your fix for FS #6220. If i understand the code correctly it now only takes the width of the last character in the .kbd file for calculating the grid for the keyboard. with my custom keyboard the grid becomes too narrow and most of the characters are only half visible. |
| 20:33:53 | * | Llorean points to the "Bugs" link on the left side of the website. |
| 20:36:12 | PaulJam | ok, i'll post a bugreport later. |
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| 20:55:15 | parafin | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7177 - why this patch was rejected? very nive feature imho. however may be it needs reimplementation for not needing reinit of db |
| 20:57:05 | GodEater | so you've actually answered your own question |
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| 21:00:26 | parafin | hmm, follow playlist option doesn't work as expected |
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| 21:00:46 | parafin | if i was in db view last time - it opens db instead of current dir |
| 21:01:18 | Llorean | Yes, there has been some argument as to where it should take you. |
| 21:01:34 | GodEater | which is probably why it's not been changed |
| 21:01:42 | GodEater | since there's divided opinion on it |
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| 21:02:13 | parafin | well, may be then it must be an option in preferences |
| 21:02:41 | klaxian | is there any way to set my iriver H10 to stay in UMS mode so that i don't have to start it special each time i want to connect to my computer? |
| 21:02:51 | GodEater | there's also been some resistance to adding yet more options |
| 21:03:07 | GodEater | some people feel rockbox has enough already |
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| 21:04:04 | Llorean | Though I'm of the opinion "Follow Playlist" could be removed entirely, and Select-in-WPS always highlights/selects the current song in filetree, while "Files" in the main menu works as normal (non-follow, last known position) |
| 21:04:27 | Llorean | It makes sense (to me) that "Select" would select the song you see in the WPS. |
| 21:04:27 | GodEater | I wouldn't mind that option either |
| 21:04:34 | Llorean | Even though I don't use follow playlist at all. :) |
| 21:05:05 | * | GodEater does |
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| 21:05:24 | parafin | well, follow playlist is usefull to look at albumart image in fullscreen |
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| 21:05:54 | parafin | well, may be i should apply yet another patch for this feature :) |
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| 21:09:10 | uberushaximus | I know this is a fairly redundant question that you must often get |
| 21:09:17 | XavierGr | yay the tx problem was solved, congrats to all guys involved! :) |
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| 21:09:41 | uberushaximus | but what is the best supported player out there for rockbox? |
| 21:09:54 | GodEater | uberushaximus: depends on your requirements |
| 21:10:13 | uberushaximus | just pointing out a device for my mom ;) |
| 21:10:38 | Soap | The Archos, iRiver H1xx, iRiver H3xx, iAudio and Toshiba Gigabeat units are all pretty much 100% |
| 21:10:43 | GodEater | uberushaximus: do you want FM radio, do you want recording ability, do you want colour / black and white screen ? |
| 21:10:56 | GodEater | how much storage do you want ? |
| 21:11:01 | GodEater | how big a unit do you want ? |
| 21:11:04 | GodEater | and so on and so forth |
| 21:11:10 | uberushaximus | I see the ambiguity |
| 21:11:35 | GodEater | if you can help us out with those questions, we're in a better position to recommend something |
| 21:11:48 | Llorean | There's also just the BuyersGuide wiki page, no? |
| 21:12:06 | GodEater | there is indeed |
| 21:12:18 | uberushaximus | FM would be nice not required, colour as well, storage isn't a /big/ deal |
| 21:12:44 | * | Llorean would like to recommend the Gigabeat F for all your "just want to play music" needs. |
| 21:12:59 | * | GodEater would second that recommendation |
| 21:13:08 | GodEater | given it's also fairly cheap to get hold of :) |
| 21:13:44 | * | Soap is a bit worried about future battery replacements for the Gigabeat, though. |
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| 21:14:02 | Llorean | Soap: Yeah, I have that fear too. |
| 21:14:23 | GodEater | do iPod batteries not fit ? |
| 21:14:27 | Llorean | But I do have my H120 to all back on, and a hope that a new Rockbox disk-based target will show up. |
| 21:14:33 | Soap | I don't mind salvaging the PCB from the existing battery, if that is what is required, but I doubt many other people will. |
| 21:14:44 | GodEater | it needs a pcb ?!? |
| 21:15:23 | Soap | for safety reasons many LiIon batteries do their own basic charge control. |
| 21:16:32 | * | GodEater looks in the wiki for a picture |
| 21:17:06 | Soap | Oh, I can't speak to the gigabeat's in specific - just been following the forum thread. |
| 21:17:09 | jbit | they also have short circuit/temperature control most of the time |
| 21:17:26 | * | GodEater hasn't noticed this feature on recent ipod batteries |
| 21:17:32 | GodEater | so they must be differnt |
| 21:18:07 | jbit | it'll be inside the protective coating most of the time |
| 21:18:09 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=1.1;filename=IMG_1781.jpg |
| 21:18:11 | GodEater | I see no pcb |
| 21:18:21 | GodEater | ah |
| 21:18:53 | uberushaximus | GodEater: do you know of a good merchant by chance? :) |
| 21:19:01 | uberushaximus | selling aforementioned model? |
| 21:19:04 | jbit | http://www.electronics-lab.com/articles/Li_Ion_reconstruct/index.html |
| 21:19:10 | jbit | 'Inside a Li-Ion pack there is always a safety circuit that consists of four main sections:' |
| 21:19:20 | GodEater | uberushaximus: I bought mine on ebay |
| 21:19:33 | uberushaximus | I see |
| 21:22:29 | toffe82 | I have 2 used f10 for sale with remote :) |
| 21:22:55 | GodEater | uberushaximus: or buy from toffe82 :) |
| 21:23:26 | GodEater | toffe82: let me know when you have a working S for sale :) |
| 21:24:05 | toffe82 | I have 2 actually but I don't know if I will sell them , perhaps I will seel one |
| 21:24:58 | * | GodEater lines up in the queue to buy |
| 21:24:59 | toffe82 | Have to go, talk to you later |
| 21:25:03 | GodEater | bye |
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| 21:42:39 | stefanha | Hi, I'm trying -current on iPod nano and it just crashed "Data abort at 40001324". How do I reboot? ;) |
| 21:44:04 | linuxstb | Hold MENU+SELECT |
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| 21:44:10 | stefanha | oooh, hold MENU and SELECT http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_restore_my_broken_iPod |
| 21:44:14 | stefanha | Thanks linuxstb |
| 21:44:38 | linuxstb | When did you last update Rockbox (before today) ? |
| 21:44:56 | stefanha | Just got -current + loader today. |
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| 22:17:18 | Merthsoft | Hi, I was wondering if there were some other way to develop in windows other than cygwin/vmware/coLinux |
| 22:17:46 | Bagder | 3 different ways is not enough? |
| 22:19:07 | Merthsoft | well, I tried VMWare and it just freezes at a black screen right when I start the image, and as far as cywin, I already have dev-c++, which has all the MinGW crap with it... So I didn't know if there was a way using what I already have that would be easier then setting up cygwin |
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| 22:19:50 | Llorean | I'd imagine getting dev-c++ to work with MinGW would actually be a good deal harder. |
| 22:20:14 | desowin | Merthsoft: you would need to have crosscompiler for dev-c++ which I doubt is possible atm |
| 22:20:34 | Bagder | yeah, I figure that's the major problem |
| 22:20:47 | Merthsoft | Hmm, ok... |
| 22:21:01 | Merthsoft | Well, what about the VMWare problem, any ideas about that? |
| 22:21:09 | Bagder | or perhaps the only problem, if msys is good enough at running the shell scripts |
| 22:21:13 | iamben | have you tried booting any other vmware linux images? |
| 22:21:18 | Merthsoft | no |
| 22:21:45 | Llorean | desowin, Bagder: It's possible to convince dev-c++ to use *one* cross-compiler, iiuc, but it's a hassle. |
| 22:22:02 | DerPapst | getting dev-cpp running is acually as easy than a double click |
| 22:22:10 | Bagder | yeah, but I meant the problem of building the cross-compiler as a native windows tool |
| 22:22:12 | DerPapst | a/than/as |
| 22:22:20 | Llorean | Bagder: As far as msys is concerned, you can convince it to run rockboxdev.sh (or whatever it's named, I hate my memory) |
| 22:23:30 | Llorean | It's slow as molasses though, when I tried it, but that was in a Windows image loaded in VMWare. |
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| 22:24:50 | Merthsoft | so my best bet is probably coLinux? |
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| 22:25:17 | * | Bagder likes and prefers native linux ;-) |
| 22:25:20 | * | Llorean agrees |
| 22:25:29 | desowin | merbanan: I would say, as for now, dual boot, then only linux ;-) |
| 22:25:32 | markun | freebsd also does the trick |
| 22:25:32 | Llorean | Put linux on a USB stick, and boot from it for development sessions. ;) |
| 22:25:33 | Merthsoft | Well, I lack that, so... |
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| 22:26:15 | ie | Shouldn't every word in menues be capitalized (as in "File Settings" vs "File settings")? The new entry "Show file extensions" isn't capitalized properly IMHO |
| 22:26:31 | Merthsoft | I don't really need dev-cpp to be doing anything, I rarely use it, I just would be perfectly fine doing it int he commad line |
| 22:26:38 | merbanan | desowin: I concur |
| 22:28:46 | * | Soap runs a full Beryl'd Ubuntu with games and Rockbox enviroment and room left over on a $35 4GB USB key. |
| 22:29:23 | Soap | and CoLinux |
| 22:29:47 | Soap | but native is faster, easier, and all that. |
| 22:29:56 | Merthsoft | So there's no easy, command line way to do this in windows? |
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| 22:30:26 | Soap | not to be a jerk - but there are three easy ways as mentioned before. |
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| 22:31:00 | Bagder | the 4th way is: DIY however you like ;-) |
| 22:31:01 | Soap | assuming you have at least a Pentium III, and aren't on Vista or XP 64 - vmware should be pretty easy and foolproof. |
| 22:31:15 | Llorean | Soap: His VMWare isn't completing booting |
| 22:31:15 | linuxstb | Merthsoft: You need a POSIX-like command-line - something Windows doesn't come with natively... |
| 22:31:42 | Merthsoft | lame |
| 22:31:50 | Llorean | Merthsoft: You're more than welcome to come up with a way to get it working in Msys, or Services for Unix, or something else if you think it's so lame. |
| 22:31:52 | * | amiconn enjoyed the gread battery time of the ipod 2nd gen under rockbox during the weekend :) |
| 22:31:59 | linuxstb | Merthsoft: That's why I don't use it. |
| 22:32:03 | Llorean | amiconn: What about fixing things for us PP502x users? ;) |
| 22:32:04 | Soap | I was getting to that Llorean...;) I was going to say I bet that is either a corrupt image (unlikely?) or an issue vmware could sort out for you in their forums, or the unofficial IRC channel. |
| 22:32:06 | amiconn | *great |
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| 22:32:43 | Merthsoft | I got the image from http://download.rockbox.org/vmware/Debian-4.7z |
| 22:32:44 | linuxstb | What is the battery life? Have you done a full test? |
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| 22:33:01 | Llorean | Soap: A corrupt image is rather unlikely since I doubt it'd decompress. |
| 22:33:26 | Merthsoft | My processor is a Celeron M 1.5 ghz |
| 22:33:35 | * | Soap suspects amiconn will never fix PP 5020 runtime. Can you image the influx of iPod users if _that_ issue were overcome? |
| 22:33:41 | Soap | Llorean: point. |
| 22:34:37 | linuxstb | Soap: Plus proper scrollwheel acceleration, support for accessories, broadcom-assisted video playback, itunes database integration, .... |
| 22:34:44 | iamben | Merthsoft: you could just get another distro's vmware image, ubuntu or fedora or whatever, and install the build environment on that in minutes |
| 22:34:46 | Llorean | linuxstb: D'you know what sansapatcher looks for when identifying a device as a sansa? |
| 22:34:59 | amiconn | But something is wrong with voice on swcodec |
| 22:35:17 | linuxstb | Llorean: Use the source ;) I remember writing a comment listing what checks it does. |
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| 22:35:26 | amiconn | With voice enabled, I got 2 crashes within a few minutes on the 2nd gen - and that can't be a dualcore issue |
| 22:35:32 | webguest32 | hi all |
| 22:35:52 | Llorean | linuxstb: Okay |
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| 22:36:23 | webguest32 | hi all |
| 22:36:33 | amiconn | One prefetch abort at 0xc0000004 (there's no hardware at that address we know of!), and one data abort in the core code range (0x00025??? - unfortunately forgot to write it down) |
| 22:36:33 | linuxstb | Llorean: I've just checked - it's in sansapatcher.c |
| 22:36:36 | webguest32 | i'm new here |
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| 22:37:18 | Llorean | linuxstb: Thanks |
| 22:37:23 | linuxstb | Llorean: One possible problem could be the partition type - sansapatcher only seems to check for 0xb, but I think some people have reported 0xc. We should change that... |
| 22:37:46 | webguest32 | is someone here? |
| 22:38:22 | Llorean | webguest32: Many people are here, you haven't really asked a question though |
| 22:38:31 | linuxstb | webguest32: Yes, but we normally don't say hello to everyone that joins - don't take it personally ;) |
| 22:39:32 | webguest32 | which formats does ipod supports when you use rockbox? |
| 22:39:57 | linuxstb | webguest32: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 22:40:17 | amiconn | Soap: See. There's already an example for your theory ;\ |
| 22:42:09 | webguest32 | which formats are supports when you use rockbox in pod 5th gen? |
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| 22:42:30 | webguest32 | i meant for music and movie |
| 22:42:48 | parafin | you may forget about movies |
| 22:42:53 | webguest32 | ok thanks |
| 22:43:29 | linuxstb | parafin: For information about video support in Rockbox (and why it's not very good on the ipod video), see here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 22:43:31 | webguest32 | damn it! i asked this question 5 min ago and it just appears now? |
| 22:44:36 | webguest32 | ok |
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| 22:45:06 | * | amiconn curses the irc log reader |
| 22:45:26 | amiconn | Why can't this thing remember that I want to see joins and quits?? |
| 22:45:56 | parafin | linuxstb, i tried it, it's too slow and audio often goes out of sync |
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| 22:47:01 | webguest32 | what about tag? will the tags apears efficiently if i'm using a tagged flac file? |
| 22:47:07 | webguest32 | ... |
| 22:47:32 | parafin | webguest32, may be you should try to read website? |
| 22:48:10 | markun | n1s: I don't understand your 'fix' for calculating the glyph distance |
| 22:48:31 | webguest32 | ... |
| 22:48:37 | DerPapst | imo the log reader should be set to show joins and quits by default |
| 22:48:58 | iamben | webguest32: yes it supports flac tags |
| 22:49:09 | amiconn | Imho the log reader should store the personal selection in a cookie |
| 22:49:23 | * | Llorean agrees with amiconn |
| 22:49:45 | DerPapst | it does for not live running logs. e.g. when you look at loader ones... at least for me |
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| 22:51:05 | markun | n1s: I think a "pm->font_w = 0;" before the loop would make much more sense |
| 22:51:46 | amiconn | Imo, the log reader is unusable for the current log (because it lags like hell), but it makes some sense for archived logs (was reading yday's log) |
| 22:51:55 | amiconn | For current, I always switch to raw immediately |
| 22:52:40 | Llorean | I just type in the /irc/current.txt url anyway. |
| 22:52:59 | * | markun too |
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| 22:56:44 | amiconn | eek |
| 22:56:48 | amiconn | Another data abort |
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| 22:57:48 | JerryLange | i was wondering if somebody would know how to fix my ipod for me. i have an abort code and was wondering what it ment |
| 22:59:35 | pixelma | Llorean: as amiconn had those data aborts now that he enabled voice, we were wondering if the Nano problems could be voice related too - I think you weren't using voice, right? Worth it to ask the others about it? |
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| 23:00:11 | amiconn | ... in pcmbuf.c:pcmbuf_flush_fillpos() |
| 23:00:38 | Llorean | pixelma: Does amiconn's problem produce choppy music playback / distortion too? |
| 23:00:46 | amiconn | nope |
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| 23:00:55 | Llorean | These have mostly reported that as an additional symptom |
| 23:00:58 | Llorean | But I'll ask about voice |
| 23:00:58 | amiconn | Just random crashes when navigating the menu |
| 23:01:15 | Llorean | They also all experienced the crashes only during playback, iiuc |
| 23:02:05 | JerryLange | anybody know where i can find out what my abort code means? when i try to browse files on my ipod? |
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| 23:02:33 | pixelma | Llorean: but how knows what interactions there are... |
| 23:02:38 | Llorean | JerryLange: Assuming you mean "Data Abort", the number is the memory address it occurred at |
| 23:02:45 | Llorean | pixelma: As I said, I'll still go ahead 'n ask. :) |
| 23:03:07 | pixelma | s/how/who |
| 23:03:11 | JerryLange | all i did was hook it up to a mac as a usb device copied stuff to it and then i disconnected it (this is a windows ipod) |
| 23:06:23 | parafin | how does morse input work in keyboard? |
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| 23:09:02 | DerPapst | hmm... the live log reader works perfect for me. never lags compared to my irc client |
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| 23:09:54 | parafin | and what does third field in apps/keymaps/keymap-ipod.c tables mean? |
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| 23:12:24 | parafin | ok, i see how works morse input |
| 23:12:54 | parafin | what does BUTTON_REL and BUTTON_REPEAT mean? |
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| 23:16:16 | Bagder | parafin: release and repeat |
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| 23:16:47 | Llorean | amiconn: At least one of the people experiencing the problem on Nano doesn't use voice, nor have voice files. |
| 23:16:57 | Darkideal | Hello, I have a few questions about Rockbox, could anyone answer them please? |
| 23:17:06 | iamben | Darkideal: yes |
| 23:17:08 | iamben | thats 1 |
| 23:17:43 | Darkideal | lol, alright, then 2 more. First, Anyone know if the Sansa c250 can handle Rockbox? and if so, do they recommend it? |
| 23:18:19 | iamben | c250? no. e250, yes. |
| 23:18:21 | parafin | Bagder, and what about that third field in apps/keymaps/ ? |
| 23:18:58 | Bagder | Darkideal: on the c250 there's only some very early work atm, the e250 runs rockbox just fine |
| 23:19:05 | Bagder | parafin: I don't remember right now |
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| 23:19:47 | dave | Hi all. My nano housing/screen is scratched to crap and its 1rst generation |
| 23:19:51 | dave | does anyone know where i can buy one? |
| 23:19:52 | Darkideal | Hmm, do you know if there will be a c250 version any time soon? or near the future? the factory firmware for c250 is...ughh..I'd try anything to replace it. |
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| 23:20:37 | Domonoky | Darkideal: someone is working on c250, but it will take time, nobody knows how long.. |
| 23:20:41 | Bagder | Darkideal: we can never tell such things for sure of course, but if everything is fine and dandy we might have a c200 port in the future |
| 23:20:59 | dave | sigh why do companies have 2nd generation nano housing |
| 23:20:59 | ddalton | can someone have a look at: http://pastebin.ca/raw/663750 And tell me what is wrong with it? The error is at the bottom. |
| 23:21:03 | dave | but nto first generation |
| 23:21:22 | Darkideal | Awesome! Thanks for the help! I'll be looking forward to it, if/and when it does come out |
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| 23:23:43 | dave | anyone? Has anyone ever replaced the housign on 1rst generation nano? |
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| 23:23:55 | dave | i know this is the wrong site but it is rockbox and ...ppl have nanos :) |
| 23:23:58 | Domonoky | ddalton: you use the variable "reboot" in cancel_shutdown(), this function doesnt have a variable called "reboot" |
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| 23:34:28 | n1s | markun: agreed, I couldn't have been thinking clearly, proper fix comitted |
| 23:34:44 | markun | ok |
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| 23:36:11 | ddalton | so if this patch uses the variable reboot. What should I replace it with? I am working on p6733 |
| 23:36:26 | PaulJam | i guess FS #7623 can be closed then. |
| 23:37:32 | n1s | PaulJam: have you tried it out? |
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| 23:38:37 | PaulJam | n1s: not yet, but if i remenber correctly i use the same fix in my build, and there it works. |
| 23:38:56 | n1s | Ok, will close then |
| 23:39:38 | parafin | btw, why svn status doesn't notice .rej files but sees .orig files...? |
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| 23:49:16 | Merthsoft | Ok, guys, I just got done setting up cygwin, but now there's a problem... When I do which arm-elf-gcc it says it's not a command |
| 23:49:36 | PaulJam | n1s: just tested with the latest official build. everything works as expected. thanks for fixing. |
| 23:49:51 | DerPapst | Merthsoft: put it in your PATH variable. |
| 23:49:58 | Merthsoft | put what? |
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| 23:50:15 | Bagder | I believe that is mentioned on the page for how to do the cygwin install |
| 23:50:21 | n1s | PaulJam: thanks for testing, that bugreport had been sitting around in the tracker for almost a year :-) |
| 23:50:38 | Merthsoft | I'm there right now and it doesn't |
| 23:51:11 | Merthsoft | ah, nvm, I was on the one with screenshots and it doesn |
| 23:51:38 | DerPapst | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment#Step_4_Add_the_cross_compiler_di |
| 23:52:01 | ddalton | What is wrong with this? MENUITEM_FUNCTION(do_shutdown_item, 0, ID2P(LANG_SHUTDOWN), there seems to be a lang_shutdown in english.lang. But I get a compile error on this line. |
| 23:52:04 | Merthsoft | that should be put on the other one too |
| 23:52:28 | iamben | Merthsoft: if only wikis were editable |
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| 23:54:12 | Bagder | *g* |
| 23:55:42 | n1s | ddalton: you need to include the string for your target it's only included for targets with "soft_shutdown" |
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