| 00:00:09 | petur | you need crosscompiler and then apply the patches and build |
| 00:00:29 | Pro | cygwin is not enough? |
| 00:00:51 | petur | not unless you only want to build the sim |
| 00:01:10 | petur | you need compilers that produce code that runs on your DAP |
| 00:01:27 | petur | s/compilers/a compiler |
| 00:01:34 | petur | +s |
| 00:01:36 | Pro | i've already compiled rockbox for my DAP |
| 00:01:50 | petur | ah, now you tell me |
| 00:02:07 | petur | so what's the problem? |
| 00:02:19 | Pro | but does the newest source works with the album art patch from 22.8???? |
| 00:02:33 | petur | ask the creator of that patch |
| 00:02:46 | Pro | and what about the scrolling_margins |
| 00:03:31 | petur | same thing |
| 00:03:33 | Gunrun | ah |
| 00:03:36 | Gunrun | I found out my problem |
| 00:03:46 | Gunrun | selecting all tracks plays by alphabetical order |
| 00:03:55 | Gunrun | selecting the album first gives me track numbers |
| 00:04:02 | Gunrun | I suppose that makes sense in a way |
| 00:04:17 | linuxstb | Yes, "all tracks" will be all tracks by that artist - so it makes no sense to pay attention to track numbers |
| 00:04:37 | Gunrun | I was sort of hoping it would be like all albums in default firmware |
| 00:04:42 | linuxstb | Although as pixelma said, the database is highly customisable if you're willing to learn the tagnavi syntax. |
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| 00:04:49 | Gunrun | where it was all the tracks from album 1, all the tracks in album 2 |
| 00:04:50 | Gunrun | etc |
| 00:04:59 | godess | misc.c: In function ‘show_splash’: |
| 00:05:01 | godess | misc.c:941: error: too few arguments to function ‘read_bmp_file’ |
| 00:05:02 | godess | misc.c:947: error: too few arguments to function ‘read_bmp_file’ |
| 00:05:04 | godess | make[1]: *** [/home/diablo/rockbox/build/apps/misc.o] Error 1 |
| 00:05:08 | godess | does anyone know that error? |
| 00:05:18 | linuxstb | I'm guessing the bmp resize patch? |
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| 00:05:29 | Gunrun | what is with the a euro thing? |
| 00:05:49 | godess | are you sure? bmp resize wasnt makeing problems so far |
| 00:05:58 | godess | -e |
| 00:06:10 | pixelma | godess: I guess you wanted to get rid of the bootlogo offset? |
| 00:06:28 | godess | yes |
| 00:06:41 | linuxstb | godess: No, I'm not sure, I was guessing... |
| 00:06:45 | godess | but, the error came before i removed that offset either |
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| 00:07:25 | linuxstb | Do you have the custom boot splash patch applied? |
| 00:07:38 | godess | yes |
| 00:07:45 | linuxstb | And the bmp resize patch? |
| 00:07:48 | godess | yes |
| 00:07:52 | linuxstb | There you go... |
| 00:08:00 | godess | doesnt it work together? |
| 00:08:31 | linuxstb | The bmp resize patch changes the way read_bmp_file() works, and the custom boot splash patch adds a new call to read_bmp_file - with the old (i.e. official SVN) syntax. |
| 00:08:49 | godess | hm |
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| 00:11:08 | godess | i dont need need the custom splash anyway |
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| 00:13:52 | pixelma | <Gunrun> what is with the a euro thing? <- if you mean the paste right above, that's a codepage issue between the IRC clients |
| 00:14:38 | godess | i dont see any euro thing |
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| 00:15:14 | godess | how is the usb progress? |
| 00:15:30 | godess | there have been much work for usb recently |
| 00:17:55 | petur | not working yet |
| 00:19:38 | Llorean | When it's working, I'm sure it'll be enabled. ;) |
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| 00:19:51 | godess | i assumed that, i meant, have you done it soon? are you next to the finish? |
| 00:20:42 | Llorean | It'll be done when it's done. Hopefully soon, but it's impossible to really promise anything |
| 00:21:45 | godess | i didnt want to be impatient. im just interested in the work around the usb |
| 00:21:57 | Llorean | Well, all the available code is in svn. |
| 00:22:05 | iamben | there is still a lot to be done |
| 00:22:45 | godess | well i dont understand the rockbox code |
| 00:23:31 | godess | i just learned some basic ruby and prolog in my specialized informatics course |
| 00:24:58 | ddalton | godess: Go and read a book on c. |
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| 00:25:23 | godess | ^^ |
| 00:25:25 | ddalton | I have and it took me a day. I will continue reading because I have only learnt the basics. |
| 00:25:40 | ddalton | what |
| 00:25:43 | godess | sure i will, when i will have some time |
| 00:25:55 | godess | but that is far into the future |
| 00:26:05 | ddalton | what's ^^ FOR? |
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| 00:26:24 | godess | its a very common smiley |
| 00:26:33 | godess | all the people i know use it |
| 00:26:45 | ddalton | yes well you can do some basic things to rockbox if you just pick up the basics. It should only take you one day. |
| 00:26:46 | godess | its pretty much like :) |
| 00:26:57 | iamben | bospaadje: yeah except more asian |
| 00:27:02 | godess | hmm ok, i will give it a try |
| 00:27:06 | iamben | er godess ^ |
| 00:27:11 | ddalton | I am blind and can't see the screen so that makes life harder. Trust me debugging is hard. |
| 00:27:15 | ddalton | with out sight |
| 00:27:29 | iamben | ddalton: can't microsoft sam read the source for ya? |
| 00:27:40 | ddalton | no couldn't stand that. |
| 00:27:45 | ddalton | but I use jaws for windows |
| 00:27:48 | godess | how can you chat? |
| 00:27:50 | ddalton | a screenreader. |
| 00:27:53 | godess | oh |
| 00:28:13 | ddalton | but I mean testing on the player is hard. To make sure it is displaying stuff correctly. |
| 00:28:28 | ddalton | with my screenreader. |
| 00:28:29 | pixelma | question to native english speakers: "Those files can be found at [link]" - does that sound right? |
| 00:28:40 | ddalton | about the chatting question |
| 00:29:09 | ddalton | well those files can be found at link? |
| 00:29:14 | ddalton | is that what you mean |
| 00:30:08 | iamben | pixelma: sounds fine, but its a bit hard to tell without any context given |
| 00:30:09 | Llorean | pixelma: It depends. You may consider "These files..." depending on the context, but it sounds okay |
| 00:30:40 | pixelma | I put the [link] there to avoid spelling a long name just as a placeholder. I was a bit unsure with the use of "at" |
| 00:30:51 | godess | guys i just made my first custom build |
| 00:30:56 | ddalton | I would probably say these files can be found link for example these files can be found here. |
| 00:31:07 | ddalton | here is the link or the whole line |
| 00:31:11 | godess | what a nice feeling |
| 00:31:13 | ddalton | if that makes any sence |
| 00:31:26 | ddalton | what did you add? |
| 00:31:47 | godess | not much |
| 00:32:39 | iamben | i tried getting into the doom plugin source last night to fix a control bug, it made my brain hurt |
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| 00:32:56 | pixelma | Llorean: ah thanks. Actually the whole line is longer, I'm currently fixing the "enabling speech support" paragraph in the manual... |
| 00:33:05 | Llorean | Aaah |
| 00:33:19 | pixelma | it still has the old instructions |
| 00:33:22 | ddalton | Has the voice building sped up on cygwin? or is it the change of my virus protection. |
| 00:33:36 | rasher | ddalton: It has been sped up |
| 00:33:41 | godess | album art, bmp resize, bubbles, expand_id3_screen, lcd fade, multivolume dircache, mpegplayer - video start time seek with resume, random album, shutdown menu, and ymargin |
| 00:33:43 | ddalton | ok then that is good |
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| 00:34:13 | rasher | And will become even faster - amiconn is working on some improvements that should give a nice speedup |
| 00:34:46 | ddalton | o good. |
| 00:34:53 | ddalton | What's linux like. |
| 00:35:07 | ddalton | I will probably be moving to that very soon. Hopefully |
| 00:35:27 | iamben | linux is good! |
| 00:35:35 | rasher | It's not much faster even now. After amiconn's changes it'll probably be slower (because of the TTS engines) |
| 00:35:40 | rasher | For voice-building that is. |
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| 00:36:37 | godess | /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: /home/diablo/rockbox/build/apps/lang.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3) |
| 00:36:39 | godess | /home/diablo/rockbox/build/apps/lang.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
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| 00:36:40 | godess | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 00:36:42 | godess | make[1]: *** [/home/diablo/rockbox/build/apps/rockbox.elf] Error 1 |
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| 00:36:48 | godess | why this error, the sim was working |
| 00:37:00 | petur | godess: use pastebin please |
| 00:37:10 | godess | what? |
| 00:37:28 | petur | don't paste into the channel, use some pastebin site |
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| 00:37:35 | godess | ahh |
| 00:37:39 | Llorean | godess: The channel guidelines ask that you not make multi-line pastes. Have you read them? |
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| 00:38:14 | godess | i think i missed that part, sorry |
| 00:38:36 | pixelma | rasher: I read the logs and wondered what you meant about the gminis? |
| 00:38:58 | godess | http://pastebin.ca/677338 |
| 00:39:04 | rasher | pixelma: Just that they were old targets subject to bitrot |
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| 00:40:10 | pixelma | how can it rot if it is removed? |
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| 00:40:28 | rasher | I don't think all traces of the gmini port is removed |
| 00:40:35 | linuxstb | It is now. |
| 00:40:37 | godess | can someone help me? |
| 00:40:51 | ddalton | I am taking a look hang on |
| 00:41:03 | linuxstb | rasher: It was removed sometime within the last year or so. |
| 00:41:17 | pixelma | November 10th |
| 00:41:24 | rasher | linuxstb: ah okay, well there you go |
| 00:42:03 | Llorean | godess: If you're having problems building a patched build, you should identify which patch causes the problem, then contact the author |
| 00:42:15 | ddalton | next time can you use raw? it just makes life easier. |
| 00:42:25 | ddalton | ok well can you compile a clean source? |
| 00:42:32 | godess | the sim has worked |
| 00:42:43 | godess | i dont know whats causing it |
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| 00:43:40 | ddalton | godess: Try a clean source. There can be problems with patches. if that compiles your environment is setup correctly. |
| 00:44:06 | ddalton | what development environment are you using? |
| 00:44:24 | godess | ubuntu 7.04 |
| 00:44:39 | godess | i can compile the svn, no problem there |
| 00:45:33 | godess | ubuntu on a virtual machine, i might add |
| 00:45:36 | Llorean | godess: Then try to identify which patch causes the problem |
| 00:46:07 | ddalton | well then it is one of your patches. Do you get hunk errors when applying? |
| 00:46:22 | ddalton | if you don't there could still be problems with patches. |
| 00:46:34 | godess | i think its working now |
| 00:47:04 | godess | i didnt change the dir, i wanted to compile in the same dir in which i build the sim before |
| 00:47:14 | godess | also i had a song in the archos folder |
| 00:47:14 | ddalton | run make clean |
| 00:49:09 | godess | ok it compiled now |
| 00:50:55 | godess | great |
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| 00:58:44 | ddalton | what does everything think of my update to p7682? |
| 00:58:47 | ddalton | everyone |
| 00:58:54 | ddalton | and it is the last comment |
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| 01:03:32 | godess | actually, that does it do? |
| 01:03:43 | godess | a voice to test the alarm? |
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| 01:11:27 | pixelma | about the "enabling speech support" paragraph in the manual: should I refer to the VoiceFiles in the wiki at alll? I mean it's a bit tricky because voice files posted there have a good chance to only work for a limited time and there's currently only one for the Video which is newer... |
| 01:11:54 | pixelma | ...but maybe a few people like voices posted there better |
| 01:12:47 | rasher | I doubt the VoiceFiles page will see regular updates since the voicefiles were split per-target |
| 01:13:22 | pixelma | that's why I ask |
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| 01:14:51 | rasher | I don't think you should include it. |
| 01:14:59 | pixelma | should it be mentioned that maybe there could be a few different available from there? |
| 01:15:08 | rasher | If it becomes relevant again, we could always add it to the manual |
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| 01:24:47 | godess | i hope the multifont patch is working again soonly |
| 01:24:53 | godess | soon |
| 01:25:41 | rewt_ | Hi guys. I've got some rockbox color issues (using the latest sandisk e200 build if that matters). Whenever i use inversed lcd mode, colors in doom also get inversed. If i use normal lcd mode and manually set fg white and bg black using the sliders, my 'now playing/resume playing' screen becomes fg white bg white |
| 01:26:00 | rewt_ | anyone else encountered this? |
| 01:26:26 | rasher | I don't see why it's so surprising that the Doom colors get inversed. You did after all select inversed LCD mode. |
| 01:26:32 | rewt_ | sure |
| 01:26:50 | rewt_ | i can understand that |
| 01:27:03 | rasher | Can't help you on the second one |
| 01:27:10 | iamben | the second problem sounds like normal behavior too |
| 01:27:17 | rewt_ | hows that? |
| 01:27:19 | iamben | oh nm can't read! |
| 01:27:23 | rewt_ | hehe |
| 01:28:45 | rewt_ | i checked .cfg's manually too and they seem to be in order |
| 01:30:58 | rasher | Looks like we might be able to apt-get install rockboxutility some time in the not too distant future |
| 01:31:15 | rasher | http://bugs.debian.org/440111 |
| 01:31:15 | godess | omg i love using my own build :D |
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| 01:31:49 | pixelma | rewt_: does your WPS use a background picture? |
| 01:32:12 | rewt_ | pixelma nope |
| 01:32:32 | pixelma | what WPS is it? |
| 01:32:52 | rewt_ | it's the default one |
| 01:33:14 | rewt_ | or let me double chec |
| 01:33:17 | rewt_ | k |
| 01:33:55 | pixelma | then it should use the foreground/background colours you set |
| 01:33:56 | rewt_ | yea default w/ icons |
| 01:34:12 | pixelma | default with icons? |
| 01:34:17 | rewt_ | yes |
| 01:34:51 | pixelma | the default WPS is text based only with the statusbar enabled |
| 01:35:47 | rewt_ | and statusbar == leftmost bar with 'icons' that i take it is a bmp? |
| 01:36:56 | pixelma | the statusbar is at the top of the screen and the same as you see in the menus, browsers etc. (if it's not disabled through the settings) |
| 01:37:48 | rewt_ | ah ok now im with you :) |
| 01:38:15 | rewt_ | lemme check my theme. maybe i've done smth funky with it |
| 01:38:41 | RudMan_ | make sure you set a blank backdrop line |
| 01:39:05 | pixelma | RudMan_: seems to be your hobby ;) |
| 01:39:14 | RudMan_ | heh |
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| 01:39:31 | RudMan_ | just a newie trying to help :) |
| 01:42:51 | rewt_ | ok so this is odd. i reloaded the default theme, set colors manually and now it seems to be fine :) |
| 01:42:57 | rewt_ | thx for the help |
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| 01:55:15 | godess | how can i remove the version-"logo" in the bootscreen? |
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| 02:00:21 | Soap | isn't the version string shown via a lcd_putsxy in rockbox/apps/misc.c |
| 02:00:27 | Soap | ? |
| 02:00:40 | godess | dunno |
| 02:00:46 | Soap | look there |
| 02:02:31 | godess | lcd_putsxy((LCD_WIDTH/2)-((strlen(verson*fon_w)/2) |
| 02:02:39 | godess | what to do for disabling it? |
| 02:03:08 | Llorean | Remove it. |
| 02:03:12 | godess | ok |
| 02:03:14 | Soap | that's only half the line, but just comment it out or cut it out |
| 02:03:25 | Llorean | Seriously, if you want to edit the source code, learn some C. |
| 02:03:30 | Soap | that's just the X position (LCD_WIDTH/2)-((strlen(verson*fon_w)/2) |
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| 02:04:28 | godess | im gonna learn, but i just cant look through all files for the version string |
| 02:04:31 | godess | thats why i ask |
| 02:06:18 | godess | thanks for help |
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| 02:24:30 | rewt_ | thx again guys. this is prolly the same issue i had: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12311.0 |
| 02:24:39 | rewt_ | im off. byes |
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| 02:25:11 | andrew__3 | anyone know how far along the pp552x usb driver is? |
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| 02:30:46 | petur | andrewg867: austriancoder is still working on it |
| 02:31:12 | petur | it will be ready when it is ready |
| 02:31:12 | andrewg867 | yeah, I knew that much ;) |
| 02:31:20 | petur | no more info |
| 02:31:57 | andrewg867 | I was talking with him when we were trying to fix the sound volume shortly after sound was successfully played on it : ) |
| 02:31:58 | petur | and now I need my beauty sleep :) |
| 02:32:14 | andrewg867 | I still have a copy of the datasheet ;p |
| 02:32:29 | andrewg867 | have a good sleep petur |
| 02:32:32 | petur | ah, the dac datasheets |
| 02:32:39 | * | petur waves |
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| 02:46:56 | andrewg867 | if the forum down for anyone else or is this schedualed downtime? |
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| 02:47:44 | Llorean | During scheduled downtime, there should always either be a notice, or no connection at all, rather than an error message |
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| 02:49:47 | andrewg867 | Llorean: it can't connect to the database |
| 02:49:56 | Llorean | I know |
| 02:50:02 | Llorean | This happens when the server gets really busy |
| 02:50:07 | andrewg867 | oh I misread :X |
| 02:50:21 | andrewg867 | I think I'm tried ;/ |
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| 03:06:19 | qwm | scorche: i'm on level 95 now! |
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| 03:33:41 | RudMan_ | all right.....downloaded - installed- and is running the dev vmware image |
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| 03:43:14 | aliask | Would this thing be able to crack the SHA-1 signing on (Zune) firmware? http://nsa.unaligned.org/index.php |
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| 05:06:10 | ddalton | ok I am back. Can someone have a look at FS #7682? |
| 05:06:19 | ddalton | and if you have an ipod can you please test? |
| 05:08:23 | ddalton | hmm rockbox.org down? |
| 05:11:57 | Sivart0 | ddalton: which ipod? |
| 05:12:42 | Soap | just the forums ddalton |
| 05:14:17 | ddalton | any with a wake up rtc |
| 05:14:25 | ddalton | so the alarm option in the system menu |
| 05:14:29 | ddalton | with |
| 05:16:56 | ddalton | I can ping it but I can't access it using fire fox or IE |
| 05:17:11 | ddalton | the address starts with 91 right? |
| 05:17:14 | ddalton | ip |
| 05:18:08 | Sivart0 | yep, it's down |
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| 05:19:33 | ddalton | could you get on to my patch? |
| 05:20:46 | RudMan_ | I've downloaded the source and am checking it out |
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| 05:21:19 | AlexMax | Whelp, I'm running into the same problem I was before, except this time pressing the button i did last time doesn't work now. |
| 05:21:28 | RudMan_ | what I want to do is go right to the wps screen on boot instead of the menu and having to select resume playback |
| 05:21:48 | AlexMax | I just installed rockbox on a new 30g ipod video yesterday. It's working decently OK, but I'm having a hard time turning on the thing after turning it off |
| 05:21:49 | ddalton | well read the manual. |
| 05:22:05 | ddalton | actually i think it is down so try download.rockbox.org |
| 05:22:26 | AlexMax | In fact, I can't turn my ipod back on at all |
| 05:22:26 | ddalton | but you select resume playback on start screen in the system menu |
| 05:22:38 | RudMan_ | no shit |
| 05:22:53 | RudMan_ | how did I miss that? |
| 05:22:56 | AlexMax | last time it did that, I plugged in my ipod for a while and it worked again after 5 minutes plugged in, but now it's just plain not working |
| 05:23:10 | ddalton | by not reading the manual! |
| 05:23:23 | RudMan_ | ps. the answer is not "you're a dumbass...." :P |
| 05:23:45 | ddalton | well they write a manual for a reason! |
| 05:23:47 | AlexMax | Anyone got a potential solution for an ipod not turning back on? |
| 05:23:56 | ddalton | yes charge it |
| 05:24:02 | AlexMax | It is charged |
| 05:24:04 | ddalton | then put it in to disk mode and restore it |
| 05:24:07 | AlexMax | And it's even plugged in |
| 05:24:24 | ddalton | so you don't even see the screen light up? |
| 05:24:27 | AlexMax | Correct |
| 05:24:31 | AlexMax | Doesnt light up |
| 05:24:32 | RudMan_ | ahhhh - the option is start screen.....didn't realize what that did |
| 05:24:43 | * | ddalton That's why I will never buy another ipod! |
| 05:24:45 | Febs | AlexMax: have you tried resetting it? Press and hold the Menu and Select buttons simultaneously. |
| 05:24:57 | ddalton | that's what I was going to say |
| 05:25:14 | AlexMax | Just tried that |
| 05:25:25 | AlexMax | but i kind of doubt it would fix anything if it cant turn on in the first place |
| 05:25:28 | ddalton | and then try putting it in to disk mode but if it is plug in and you hold menu and select down you should at least see the apple logo |
| 05:26:43 | AlexMax | I've got it plugged into the USB port, and i've held menu and select for a while now |
| 05:26:44 | AlexMax | no dice |
| 05:26:55 | ddalton | RudMan: if you read the manual you would know exactly what the screen is for. The manual is very easy to get around. |
| 05:26:57 | Febs | AlexMax: let it charge for a while, and then try again. |
| 05:27:05 | AlexMax | wait |
| 05:27:07 | AlexMax | i think i see something |
| 05:27:07 | Febs | Reset will *always* work. |
| 05:27:08 | AlexMax | AHA |
| 05:27:13 | AlexMax | Here it goes |
| 05:27:16 | AlexMax | The crux is though |
| 05:27:17 | ddalton | so if you hold select and menu what do you see on the screen. |
| 05:27:25 | ddalton | hold for about 20 seconds |
| 05:27:26 | AlexMax | OK, it's working now |
| 05:27:29 | AlexMax | The problem is |
| 05:27:55 | AlexMax | that the battery indicator shows 100% full |
| 05:27:58 | Febs | AlexMax: please type full lines rather than lines of 3 words. |
| 05:28:02 | AlexMax | Sorry. |
| 05:28:06 | ddalton | no reset doesn't always work. not in my case |
| 05:28:31 | Febs | AlexMax: it is bug in the Apple firmware. If it happens again, just reset. |
| 05:28:40 | ddalton | does the 4th gen have a wake up rtc? |
| 05:28:42 | ddalton | ipod |
| 05:29:10 | AlexMax | Pebs: What is a bug in the apple firmware. Turning it off (holding play at the main scree) sometimes makes it not turn back on again? |
| 05:29:26 | AlexMax | What does that have to do with apple's firmware if I'm using rockbox and rockbox doesn't turn back on? |
| 05:30:48 | Febs | Rockbox doesn't turn the player on. The low-level Apple firmware does, and then loads the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 05:33:01 | AlexMax | Hrm. I suppose I can avoid the problem if I don't turn the player off. Another question though, will reset work when it's not plugged in? |
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| 05:34:04 | Febs | Yes. And if you don't turn the player off, it will turn off automatically based on whatever your idle timeout setting is. Not to mention that will run your battery down. |
| 05:37:33 | AlexMax | Good point. Thanks for your help. =) |
| 05:38:43 | AlexMax | Other than the shutdown problem, rockbox has been really nice. I use it more out of utlitiy, since a substantial portion of my music collection was ripped by me in musepack. |
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| 06:05:35 | ddalton | can someone tell me what is wrong with my indentation? http://pastebin.ca/raw/677552 |
| 06:05:48 | ddalton | I know it won't compile because there isn't a variable called t |
| 06:06:09 | ddalton | but what is wrong with the indenting to be the same as the rockbox indenting |
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| 06:09:48 | RudMan_ | { should line up under the if |
| 06:09:57 | RudMan_ | same with the var dec |
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| 06:11:06 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: your indentations is completely messy |
| 06:11:11 | RudMan_ | the last project I worked on has a beautifier program that was to be run before any checkin that contained the standard indenting/formatting |
| 06:11:17 | TiMiD[FD1 | first indent with only spaces |
| 06:11:48 | TiMiD[FD1 | and then followthe indent convention found in other rb files |
| 06:11:50 | RudMan_ | you check out, run the beautifier to set your own formatting/indenting and before you check out, run it with the projects |
| 06:11:53 | ddalton | yeah well the emacs wiki page isn't helpful |
| 06:11:59 | ddalton | that someone gave me on #emacs |
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| 06:14:07 | RudMan_ | hard tabs are evil |
| 06:14:18 | TiMiD[FD1 | or hard spaces ... |
| 06:14:30 | TiMiD[FD1 | I'm fine with tabs |
| 06:14:33 | RudMan_ | spaces are good, tabs are bad |
| 06:14:36 | RudMan_ | 3 spaces per tab |
| 06:14:39 | TiMiD[FD1 | but mixing tabs and spaces is horrible |
| 06:15:11 | TiMiD[FD1 | spaces takes a longer time to delete than a tab |
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| 06:15:58 | TiMiD[FD1 | and their length can be set to your preferences, if you like 2 spaces indenting just set the length of a tab to 2 spaces |
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| 06:16:17 | TiMiD[FD1 | that's not possible with spaces |
| 06:16:27 | | Part sysfault |
| 06:16:33 | TiMiD[FD1 | I don't know why rb uses spaces |
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| 06:16:42 | TiMiD[FD1 | a lot od oss projects uses tabs |
| 06:17:32 | TiMiD[FD1 | btw the web site seems dead from here |
| 06:17:55 | Sivart0 | yep |
| 06:18:08 | RudMan_ | yeah, it's been dead for about an hour or so |
| 06:19:50 | Sivart0 | why do all the good sites go down at the same time? v_v |
| 06:20:45 | ddalton | ok does this look any better or is it still just as bad? http://pastebin.ca/raw/677564 |
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| 06:23:05 | * | Sivart0 bashes his head against the wall |
| 06:23:40 | ddalton | what text editors are you guys using here for indenting? |
| 06:24:34 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: I'm using kwrite |
| 06:24:51 | TiMiD[FD1 | but just look at one rockbox source code and do the same |
| 06:24:56 | TiMiD[FD1 | it's not difficult |
| 06:25:39 | ddalton | is it meant to be on linux? |
| 06:26:59 | TiMiD[FD1 | I'm running linux yes, but even with notepad on windows you can make your indentation look correct |
| 06:27:20 | ddalton | how? |
| 06:27:26 | ddalton | with notepad |
| 06:27:35 | TiMiD[FD1 | just press the space bar ... |
| 06:29:12 | TiMiD[FD1 | can you see what's wrong with the file you show us ? |
| 06:30:36 | RudMan_ | ddalton: what editor do you use? |
| 06:31:49 | ddalton | no I am blind! |
| 06:32:10 | ddalton | I am trying to get emacs to work but any editor that will work on cygwin |
| 06:32:16 | ddalton | and maybe linux soon |
| 06:33:57 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: so why to ask us ? |
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| 06:38:43 | homielowe | Did rockbox.org change IP again? Or is it just down? |
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| 06:49:43 | ddalton | well I am trying to get my code excepted. or have at least a chance to. And I am trying to get the indenting right. |
| 06:50:35 | RudMan_ | damn, use any editor but emacs |
| 06:50:37 | RudMan_ | yuck |
| 06:55:28 | ddalton | what editor? |
| 06:55:35 | ddalton | nano? |
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| 06:59:14 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: notepad2 if you are runing windows |
| 06:59:20 | TiMiD[FD1 | nano doesn't do indenting |
| 06:59:41 | RudMan_ | there are a bunch of decent text editors, freeware, on windows |
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| 07:00:13 | TiMiD[FD1 | it's the onlyone I've used |
| 07:00:29 | TiMiD[FD1 | I almost never use windows so ... |
| 07:00:30 | ddalton | does it do the automatic indenting? |
| 07:00:38 | TiMiD[FD1 | if I remember yes |
| 07:01:03 | ddalton | ok what would you use on the command line version of linux? |
| 07:01:06 | ddalton | editor |
| 07:01:26 | RudMan_ | you've only used emacs and can't figure out how to indent correctly? |
| 07:01:34 | ddalton | yep |
| 07:02:01 | ddalton | I have asked on the #emacs channel but they can't help. |
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| 07:03:31 | RudMan_ | use the space bar |
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| 07:03:45 | TiMiD[FD1 | I use tab configured to put spaces |
| 07:03:55 | TiMiD[FD1 | notepad2 does it if I remember |
| 07:07:17 | RudMan_ | you can also use notepad2 in linux if you install Wine |
| 07:07:39 | TiMiD[FD1 | fortunately in linux there are better programs |
| 07:07:42 | RudMan_ | granted you're fucked if you want to use it on the cmd line |
| 07:08:03 | TiMiD[FD1 | kate is pretty good |
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| 07:09:24 | RudMan_ | I use the same editor that I used back in 1993 in OS/2. It was ported to Windows but the last update for it dates to 1998 |
| 07:09:52 | TiMiD[FD1 | woow |
| 07:10:08 | TiMiD[FD1 | why are you stick to it ? |
| 07:11:46 | RudMan_ | 90% of the functionality was written in scripts |
| 07:12:06 | RudMan_ | so if I ever want to change anything or add to it, I write/modify the script |
| 07:12:15 | TiMiD[FD1 | hey does someone know a way to get only one line specified by it's number in a text file from command line ? |
| 07:12:36 | RudMan_ | however the date/time stuff broke between WinNT and XP |
| 07:12:44 | RudMan_ | but I can live with such limitations |
| 07:12:51 | TiMiD[FD1 | RudMan_: no other editors works like that now ? |
| 07:13:13 | RudMan_ | not that I've ever found |
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| 07:14:11 | RudMan_ | TiMiD[FD1,: sed should do that |
| 07:14:23 | TiMiD[FD1 | ed ? |
| 07:14:25 | TiMiD[FD1 | sed |
| 07:14:48 | TiMiD[FD1 | you can specify line numbers to sed ? |
| 07:14:57 | TiMiD[FD1 | I thought it was workingonly lineepr line |
| 07:15:01 | TiMiD[FD1 | I'llread the man |
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| 07:15:14 | ddalton | is this any better? http://pastebin.ca/raw/677603 |
| 07:15:47 | RudMan_ | dude! |
| 07:15:53 | TiMiD[FD1 | no :) |
| 07:15:58 | RudMan_ | I don't think it can get any worse! |
| 07:16:09 | TiMiD[FD1 | still spaces and tabs mixed |
| 07:16:14 | ddalton | hmmm I don't know |
| 07:16:26 | TiMiD[FD1 | can you see them ? |
| 07:16:43 | ddalton | what source file can I put on the net so the guys on #emacs can help me? |
| 07:16:50 | ddalton | that they will see what I am talking about |
| 07:17:23 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: any c file on rb .... |
| 07:17:25 | RudMan_ | use.something.else |
| 07:17:36 | TiMiD[FD1 | yep |
| 07:17:43 | TiMiD[FD1 | emacs is not good |
| 07:18:02 | TiMiD[FD1 | interface is awkward and time consuming for most tasks |
| 07:18:16 | TiMiD[FD1 | although the emacs guys claims the contrary |
| 07:23:20 | TiMiD[FD1 | RudMan_: ok, sed did the trick |
| 07:24:09 | RudMan_ | excellent |
| 07:29:37 | TiMiD[FD1 | sed '24q;d' gets only the 24ts line |
| 07:29:55 | TiMiD[FD1 | sed seems very complex |
| 07:30:15 | TiMiD[FD1 | I don't think I use more that 10% of it's capabilities |
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| 07:53:11 | * | ddalton can't get it to work |
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| 08:00:18 | RudMan_ | can't get what to work |
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| 08:01:19 | shng9w | hey, the website down? |
| 08:01:25 | Doomed_ | yeah |
| 08:01:59 | shng9w | lol. decided to void my warrenty and install rockbox on my x5 |
| 08:05:44 | shng9w | any idea on when it will be back? |
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| 08:06:35 | TiMiD[FD1 | ddalton: is that that uch difficult to put spaces in a file ? |
| 08:06:37 | RudMan_ | no one has posted with any info why it's down |
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| 09:15:18 | k-man | hello |
| 09:15:26 | k-man | is it just me or is the rockbox site down? |
| 09:16:09 | pixelma | just wanted to ask the same... |
| 09:17:36 | petur | yup, same here |
| 09:18:40 | pixelma | I also cannot connect to the forums |
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| 09:19:49 | k-man | damn |
| 09:19:54 | k-man | i was all set to intall rockbox |
| 09:19:58 | k-man | now I'll have to wait |
| 09:20:00 | k-man | oh well |
| 09:22:24 | petur | no worries |
| 09:22:33 | petur | one of the download servers should be up |
| 09:22:56 | petur | http://download.rockbox.org/ |
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| 09:23:11 | pixelma | you might be able to get to download.rockbox.org where you can find the manuals and some other parts for your installation but not the rockbox build... |
| 09:23:12 | petur | and the wiki stuff can be found in google cache |
| 09:23:30 | ddalton | who actually runs the rockbox server? |
| 09:23:33 | ddalton | rockbox.org |
| 09:23:34 | * | petur wins from pixelma :) |
| 09:24:04 | pixelma | but that doesn't help completely... |
| 09:24:43 | petur | yes it does: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ |
| 09:24:57 | petur | 2-0 :p |
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| 09:25:36 | ddalton | and: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ |
| 09:25:40 | ddalton | if that is any help |
| 09:25:52 | pixelma | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/ |
| 09:26:15 | ddalton | so the tracker is down? |
| 09:26:43 | ddalton | well http://download.rockbox.org/ will give links to all the files that are needed. |
| 09:29:05 | petur | the tracker and wiki are on the webserver |
| 09:29:44 | * | pixelma isn't fully awake yet, sips coffee from a blue mug ;) |
| 09:29:47 | petur | but most stuff can be found in google cache |
| 09:31:05 | * | petur walks away for some household duties and maybe some tea in a blue mug :) (wearing a rockbox t-shirt) |
| 09:32:38 | k-man | bit there's no instrauctions is there? |
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| 09:35:24 | pixelma | k-man: it is in the manual |
| 09:35:32 | k-man | ok, thanks |
| 09:36:18 | pixelma | out of curiosity - what player do you have? |
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| 09:40:49 | k-man | so for the ipod 80g video, do i need rockbox-ipodvideo64mb? |
| 09:41:03 | k-man | pixelma, an ipod video 80gig |
| 09:42:04 | pixelma | yes (about the 64MB build for a 80GB Ipod Video) |
| 09:43:23 | k-man | thanks |
| 09:44:12 | desowin | wow, battery bench on my sansa - 15:53:52 :D |
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| 09:45:55 | JerryLange | hello everyone |
| 09:47:35 | desowin | just going to say hi, or have question? |
| 09:47:45 | k-man | so i just unzip the rockbox files into the ipod, then run the patcher? i downloaded an mbr video 80gb, do i need that? |
| 09:48:01 | k-man | i ran the patcher and it said all was good |
| 09:48:15 | k-man | also, the doco says i should install the fonts or something? where do i get those from? |
| 09:49:12 | pixelma | k-man: you would only need the mbr if your Ipod isn't FAT-32 formatted, if I'm not mistaken ipodpatcher would have told you |
| 09:49:23 | * | amiconn would like to commit something :| |
| 09:49:23 | k-man | ok |
| 09:49:24 | k-man | thanks |
| 09:49:27 | amiconn | Bagder_: ping |
| 09:49:48 | pixelma | k-man: the fonts zip is on the "daily" page too |
| 09:49:54 | k-man | also, should i install a skin now? before rebooting into rocbkox? |
| 09:50:53 | desowin | you can but it's not required |
| 09:50:54 | pixelma | nah, you don't need it for installing the first time. I'd make sure that everything works correctly first and then care about the looks |
| 09:51:00 | k-man | ok |
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| 09:51:12 | k-man | so once the fonts are in, i should reboot it? |
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| 09:53:40 | k-man | well blimey! that was easy! ok, i have booted into rockbox |
| 09:53:44 | k-man | now what? |
| 09:53:45 | k-man | hehe |
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| 09:56:07 | JerryLange | sorry was away. just wondering why the rockbox site is down |
| 09:57:07 | pixelma | k-man: play some music? If you only have music put on with iTunes you need to enable the database, a howto about this is in the manual too. |
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| 10:00:03 | JerryLange | i noticed even the forums are down |
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| 10:01:37 | k-man | ok |
| 10:01:54 | k-man | pixelma, i have loads of music |
| 10:02:02 | k-man | and I'd like to avoind itunes if at all possible |
| 10:02:11 | k-man | itunes makes me feel ill |
| 10:03:19 | * | davina doesnt use itunes at all |
| 10:04:00 | * | JerryLange hates ituens also |
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| 10:04:12 | davina | i use bash script :) |
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| 10:07:47 | davina | my bash script to sync ipod and pc http://pastebin.com/d6dd25a91 |
| 10:08:12 | pixelma | k-man: with rockbox you can just drag'n'drop your music to your drive |
| 10:08:19 | k-man | right |
| 10:08:20 | pixelma | (Ipod) |
| 10:08:24 | k-man | thats more like what I want |
| 10:08:28 | k-man | i just did that |
| 10:08:34 | k-man | and built the database |
| 10:08:38 | k-man | its working nicely |
| 10:08:42 | k-man | can i make the fonts a bit bigger? |
| 10:10:02 | pixelma | then you don't need the database - just use the file browser. You can set a different font (as you installed the fonts.zip), should be in the fine manual too ;) |
| 10:10:32 | pixelma | of course you can use the database if you want to |
| 10:10:36 | k-man | pixelma, but I like asking you, its much more exciting than reading the manual :) |
| 10:11:25 | pixelma | well... a lot of work was put into the manual so that we don't have to repeat answers on and on again |
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| 10:12:05 | DefineByte | is rockbox.org down? |
| 10:12:17 | k-man | pixelma, ok |
| 10:12:18 | k-man | sorry |
| 10:12:47 | davina | it would seem so: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at rockbox.org. |
| 10:12:49 | * | amiconn summons Bagder, LinusN or Zagor |
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| 10:13:43 | DefineByte | getting a message saying the database can't connect on forums.rockbox.org too |
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| 10:16:53 | petur | amiconn: SVN works, you only want the build table to check if all is green? |
| 10:17:03 | amiconn | hmm |
| 10:17:30 | amiconn | I don't absolutely need that. My commit is related to voice file generation |
| 10:17:38 | petur | ah |
| 10:17:55 | petur | but those are only done daily, right? |
| 10:18:01 | amiconn | yes |
| 10:18:16 | amiconn | I didn't notice svn was working... |
| 10:21:00 | k-man | ooh, i think i crashed rockbox |
| 10:21:17 | k-man | i went into recording and then tried to get back to palying music and it locked up |
| 10:22:08 | k-man | so I have many albums on my hdd, what is a good way to manage which ones I want on the ipod and not? just drag and drop them? |
| 10:22:22 | k-man | what about some way of selecting files and folders to put on there |
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| 10:26:57 | rasher | k-man: I believe it's a known bug that playback won't work after having been in recording mode |
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| 10:39:10 | amiconn | rasher: I've committed my sapi5 voice optimisations now, after cleaning up a bit |
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| 10:40:08 | amiconn | (synchronisation is now a separate function and I use a hash reference for $tts_object, containing the engine name as well |
| 10:40:35 | amiconn | I also set the SVN properties for the vb script |
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| 10:48:52 | The-Compiler | Is rockbox.org down? |
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| 10:49:10 | BK | Yes |
| 10:49:59 | The-Compiler | Do you know why? |
| 10:51:46 | BK | No, but my bet are Aliens. |
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| 10:52:54 | k-man | how do you install skins? |
| 10:54:00 | The-Compiler | k-man: Do you see an .rockbox-folder in the archive? |
| 10:54:20 | k-man | which archive? |
| 10:55:56 | The-Compiler | k-man: The zip-archive, in which is the theme |
| 10:56:05 | k-man | oh |
| 10:56:05 | k-man | i see |
| 10:56:55 | k-man | yes |
| 10:56:58 | k-man | .rockbox |
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| 10:59:36 | petur | site is up again... |
| 10:59:58 | petur | forums not |
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| 11:00:29 | ddalton | can someone please test p7682? with voice? |
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| 11:00:48 | ddalton | on a target with wake up rtc? |
| 11:00:57 | amiconn | My commit doesn't appear on the frontpage... ?! |
| 11:01:19 | ddalton | what was your commit? |
| 11:01:37 | ddalton | no interest in it? |
| 11:01:45 | webguest03 | what about usb host for x5? |
| 11:01:46 | JdGordon | recent ML posts? |
| 11:01:54 | JdGordon | interseting addition to the frontpage |
| 11:02:00 | amiconn | ddalton: sapi5 voice generation optimisation |
| 11:02:23 | webguest03 | what about usb host for x5? |
| 11:02:52 | ddalton | ok |
| 11:03:00 | ddalton | does it speed it up much? |
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| 11:03:06 | amiconn | yes |
| 11:03:10 | k-man | is there a way to display album art in rockbox with the standard theme? |
| 11:03:45 | ddalton | how much? |
| 11:03:52 | amiconn | By factors.... |
| 11:04:16 | amiconn | The actual voice build now needs around 2 minutes on my laptop, while it needed 5 minutes before |
| 11:04:43 | ddalton | sounds good |
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| 11:06:09 | Betelguez | I installed Rockbox yesterday and now when I woke up my Ipod is all black and refuses to start. Nothing happens if I connect it to the USB either. Its a 5.5 gen Ipod |
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| 11:06:44 | amiconn | Now if someone could make the build system stop building the bitmaps in 'make voice' ... |
| 11:07:27 | ddalton | anyone interested in committing FS #7682? |
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| 11:11:43 | The-Compiler | k-man: Then simply unpack it to your player, owerwrite existing files |
| 11:11:53 | k-man | The-Compiler, ok, thanks |
| 11:12:35 | The-Compiler | k-man: >is there a way to display album art in rockbox with the standard theme?< There isn't one at the moment |
| 11:12:37 | k-man | is there any tools around that can grab album art? |
| 11:13:34 | The-Compiler | k-man: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt#Useful_tools |
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| 11:14:18 | Betelguez | My 5.5gen Ipod is all black. wont start. anyone had/has similar problems? |
| 11:14:31 | ddalton | Ok I am trying to figure out keymaps. |
| 11:14:34 | ddalton | what does btn |= BUTTON_RC_MENU; |
| 11:14:38 | ddalton | do? |
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| 11:16:43 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: Maybe the battery is empty? You should connect the iPod for several hours to the pc, i'ts possible that the iPod then turns on |
| 11:16:53 | ddalton | Betelguez: reset it! |
| 11:17:05 | ddalton | JdGordon can you help me? |
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| 11:17:48 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: Oh, right, as ddalton said, reset it (press MENU and select for some seconds) |
| 11:18:11 | ddalton | maybe 20 and then see what happens |
| 11:18:22 | amiconn | pixelma: ping |
| 11:19:14 | ddalton | amiconn: Do you know how to do buttons? |
| 11:19:16 | Betelguez | hmm ok, ill try that |
| 11:20:33 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: 5 secons should be enough |
| 11:20:53 | Betelguez | well I be damned, I dont belive it. It actually worked |
| 11:21:23 | Betelguez | Im used to just having to press the menu button to make it start :x Love you guys |
| 11:22:39 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: You have to use the MENU-button everytime to start it. |
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| 11:23:04 | k-man | oh, i love album art agregator |
| 11:23:07 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: sorry, forget to say that :| |
| 11:23:08 | k-man | its cool |
| 11:23:53 | Betelguez | dont be sorry, it works now |
| 11:25:19 | Betelguez | I recently bought the Ipod from a friend so I'm fairly new to Ipods. I thought it was broken ^^ |
| 11:28:46 | The-Compiler | It's impossible to brick an iPod with installing/using Rockbox |
| 11:29:42 | The-Compiler | Betelguez: You always can reboot the iPod into the diskmode and restore it |
| 11:33:01 | Betelguez | yeah |
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| 11:37:02 | ddalton | how do I use talk_number? |
| 11:39:30 | n1s | amiconn: all i know about building of bitmaps when building voice is that it's the 'features' target that does it, but I don't know how to stop it |
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| 11:42:01 | * | n1s wonders how that change to the gigabeat keymap could work, WPS_PLAY and WPS_STOP are now the same button... |
| 11:44:30 | Nico_P | n1s: I don't think so... at least in actual use, plat/pause is A ans stop is POWER |
| 11:45:20 | n1s | ah, was looknig at the wrong diff, heh, too early here :-) |
| 11:57:42 | desowin | should I put my battery bench of sansa in tracker or in wiki? |
| 11:58:17 | JdGordon | desowin: what time did you get? |
| 11:58:34 | desowin | 15:53:52 |
| 11:58:35 | JdGordon | it should go on the wiki, not the tracker |
| 11:58:40 | JdGordon | 30min more than me |
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| 11:58:47 | pixelma | desowin: since there are other runtime pages in the wiki, I'd put it ther |
| 11:58:58 | JdGordon | desowin: which audio type? |
| 11:59:12 | desowin | .ogg -q8 |
| 11:59:14 | * | bluebrother is really curious why it should be better to not hide user configuration ... |
| 11:59:14 | ddalton | JdGordon: Do you have time to help me? |
| 11:59:32 | JdGordon | desowin: ah ok, I was using VBR mp3 |
| 11:59:45 | JdGordon | ddalton: ill be in and out... whats the prioblem? |
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| 12:00:01 | ddalton | um can you help me out with buttons? |
| 12:00:07 | ddalton | I want to give it another go |
| 12:01:42 | JdGordon | ... ok...? |
| 12:02:15 | ddalton | ok well first how do I make the rec button do something. |
| 12:02:19 | ddalton | like call a function? |
| 12:02:26 | ddalton | when it is pressed? |
| 12:03:04 | JdGordon | you need to call get_action() and then do something depenign on the returned action |
| 12:03:24 | ddalton | so just anywhere in my code? |
| 12:03:58 | JdGordon | in a loop somewhere... |
| 12:04:00 | Nico_P | bluebrother: I have a few luna screenshots for rbutil in case you're interested for the wiki page |
| 12:04:23 | ddalton | so a loop in say playback.c? |
| 12:04:28 | bluebrother | Nico_P: sure ... feel free to add them (and replace some old ones) |
| 12:04:34 | ddalton | what sort of loop? |
| 12:04:40 | Nico_P | bluebrother: also I experienced the delayed menu bar |
| 12:05:20 | bluebrother | Nico_P: I have tried a bit and can reproduce it. Unfortunately I have no idea what's causing this −− the UI is generated using designer and gets only called |
| 12:05:47 | bluebrother | maybe Domonoky has an idea about it. Fortunately it's only a visual glitch. |
| 12:06:02 | amiconn | hrrrmmm, neither the frontpage nor the build system seem to pick up commits :( |
| 12:06:08 | amiconn | Bagder_: ping.... |
| 12:06:32 | JdGordon | ddalton: no... what are you trying to do? |
| 12:07:36 | Nico_P | bluebrother: have you searched the Qt docs and/or wiki/forum ? |
| 12:07:53 | ddalton | well I want to make a long press of rec go to the info screen. |
| 12:08:00 | ddalton | actually not go to it but voice it |
| 12:08:05 | bluebrother | about the delay: not yet. I tried to fix the reported crashes first ;-) |
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| 12:08:48 | JdGordon | ddalton: from where? |
| 12:08:54 | bluebrother | I'll do later. There is still this crash caused by changing the language that bothers me. And strangely this only occurs on windows. |
| 12:09:07 | Nico_P | olk |
| 12:09:21 | ddalton | well every where but maybe the wps to start with |
| 12:09:24 | Nico_P | bluebrother: do you plan on updating the windows binary ? |
| 12:09:42 | bluebrother | yes. Not sure when's the best point. |
| 12:10:05 | bluebrother | but I can provice you a binary at my webspace in about no time −− I need to compile for testing anyway |
| 12:10:58 | Nico_P | I wouldn't mind |
| 12:11:15 | JdGordon | ddalton: well, the long rec press is already being used... so look in the keymap for what its returned aciton is, then search the sources for it |
| 12:11:32 | ddalton | JdGordon: What is the best way to do that? |
| 12:11:59 | JdGordon | search for BUTTON_REC in the keymap file |
| 12:12:49 | ddalton | so I have found the line { ACTION_STD_REC, BUTTON_REC|BUTTON_REPEAT, BUTTON_NONE }, |
| 12:12:57 | ddalton | what should I do now |
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| 12:15:08 | JdGordon | search for ACTION_STD_REC |
| 12:16:30 | ddalton | in the keymaps dir in apps? |
| 12:16:33 | bluebrother | Nico_P: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil |
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| 12:19:26 | Nico_P | bluebrother: thanks |
| 12:19:48 | JdGordon | ddalton: no, just in apps/ |
| 12:20:13 | JdGordon | ddalton: bare in mind that its very unlikely that sort of patch will be accepted |
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| 12:31:16 | ddalton | ok so do you know what files? |
| 12:31:24 | ddalton | I know it won't be excepted |
| 12:32:13 | JdGordon | search in apps/ for it... there will be one hit for each of the tree broswer, the wps, the radio and the menu code |
| 12:35:21 | ddalton | and just copy it when I find it? |
| 12:36:02 | JdGordon | no... you cant just put a button loop anywhere in the code, you have to change the code there to do what you want |
| 12:39:31 | linuxstb | Any ipod users (preferably using Windows) around to test out a hopefully improved USB detection function? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usbv1.diff The "hold menu to charge" feature should be working properly. |
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| 12:53:04 | amiconn | Bagder_: pingGgGgGg... |
| 12:55:29 | petur | <g> |
| 12:56:33 | JdGordon | amiconn: one more Gg would have done it... |
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| 13:04:12 | amiconn | hrhrhr |
| 13:04:34 | petur | gqgqgq |
| 13:04:36 | pixelma | gah |
| 13:04:51 | * | pixelma just wanted to chip in something useful ;) |
| 13:05:07 | petur | maybe shout MOOOO loud enough and he will hear :) |
| 13:06:58 | amiconn | Nah, really |
| 13:07:14 | * | amiconn is somewhat annoyed by these server malfunctions |
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| 13:07:22 | JdGordon | the forums are down also |
| 13:07:34 | petur | which is odd |
| 13:07:41 | petur | as they are hosted elsewhere |
| 13:07:46 | amiconn | They typically happen during the weekend, when none of the 3 swedes which could fix it are around |
| 13:07:59 | amiconn | ...and the we is the best time for coding... |
| 13:08:01 | * | linuxstb notes it's the 1st September today... |
| 13:08:17 | petur | curse their real life :) |
| 13:09:07 | * | JdGordon wonders why stupid make is only doing 1 compile at a time :( |
| 13:09:29 | petur | on your 4 cores? |
| 13:09:33 | petur | :p |
| 13:09:33 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 13:09:37 | amiconn | Nah, if the server would run stable, there wouldn't be a problem |
| 13:09:39 | parafin | there is argument -j |
| 13:09:47 | rvvs89 | JdGordon: because it does one thing and one thing only |
| 13:09:50 | rvvs89 | but it does it well |
| 13:09:53 | JdGordon | parafin: i added the -j arg :( |
| 13:09:55 | rvvs89 | according to unix anyway |
| 13:09:58 | * | rvvs89 runs away |
| 13:10:25 | parafin | JdGordon, well, there must be some sort of support for this in Makefile |
| 13:10:44 | JdGordon | ... in the gcc Makefile? i assume thee would be |
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| 13:10:59 | parafin | no |
| 13:11:04 | parafin | in rockbox Makefile |
| 13:11:10 | parafin | or whatever you compile |
| 13:11:17 | JdGordon | ... im complaing about compiling gcc... not rockbox :p |
| 13:11:37 | parafin | ah |
| 13:12:54 | parafin | well, for some reason gcc doesn't support -j stuff |
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| 13:14:13 | * | JdGordon hopes he got paid overnight so /me can buy a 22" lcd tomoorw :) |
| 13:18:01 | * | linuxstb updates his usb patch to http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usbv2.diff and repeats his request for testers with ipods and windows |
| 13:18:27 | ddalton | does anyone have an ipod here? |
| 13:18:48 | * | JdGordon looks for sisters nano to test linuxstb's patch |
| 13:20:20 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Thanks. Can you first test what happens when you attach it to a windows PC with SVN Rockbox whilst holding the MENU button? People report that you need to hold MENU for about 10 seconds to stop it rebooting to disk mode, and also that Windows gives an error about unknown USB device. |
| 13:20:36 | linuxstb | I'm hoping my patch fixes that... |
| 13:20:43 | Gunrun | ddalton I do? |
| 13:20:50 | Gunrun | -? |
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| 13:21:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: will svn from wednesday be good enough? |
| 13:21:47 | linuxstb | Sure. |
| 13:22:20 | Gunrun | linuxstb I get all that, if it helps, yesterdays version |
| 13:22:37 | linuxstb | Gunrun: Do you want to test my patch as well? |
| 13:22:47 | Gunrun | uh... do I have to do any compiling? |
| 13:22:57 | Gunrun | because I haven't got a clue how to |
| 13:23:00 | linuxstb | I could make a build for you if you want. Which ipod? |
| 13:23:06 | Gunrun | 5.5 30gb |
| 13:23:11 | linuxstb | OK, 2 minutes... |
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| 13:23:42 | JdGordon | linuxstb: with svn and holding menu it charges for a few sec then reboots, checking with the patch |
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| 13:26:35 | linuxstb | Gunrun: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox.zip |
| 13:27:31 | Gunrun | if this works can I just drop this into my old rockbox install? |
| 13:27:37 | Gunrun | so I can keep all my old stuff |
| 13:27:47 | ddalton | over write it. |
| 13:28:01 | Gunrun | righto |
| 13:28:06 | JdGordon | linuxstb: well, it says in rb and the stausbar shows the charging icon.... |
| 13:28:07 | linuxstb | If I was you, I would backup your existing .rockbox folder, test my build, then restore your current setup |
| 13:28:16 | Gunrun | linuxstb that's what I am doing |
| 13:29:12 | linuxstb | JdGordon: That's with MENU held? Does normal USB mode detection still work? |
| 13:29:43 | Gunrun | something is wrong here it is transfering slow as anything |
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| 13:29:56 | Gunrun | oh there we go sorted it |
| 13:30:08 | JdGordon | linuxstb: mm, no, doesnt reboot to diskmode without menu held |
| 13:31:04 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Hmm... Could you try changing the line "countdown = 15" to a larger number (e.g. 20) in firmware/target/arm/usb-fw-pp502x.c (line 213) |
| 13:31:29 | Gunrun | doesn't go to disk mode if I don't hold menu here either |
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| 13:31:56 | linuxstb | Does Windows give any errors about unknown usb device? |
| 13:31:59 | Gunrun | nope |
| 13:32:08 | linuxstb | But it does without my patch? |
| 13:32:20 | Gunrun | yes, without the patch I get an uknown device error |
| 13:32:26 | Gunrun | This is under Vista by the way |
| 13:32:30 | linuxstb | OK, let me make another build... |
| 13:32:33 | Gunrun | unknown* |
| 13:33:02 | linuxstb | Gunrun: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rockbox.ipod - just copy this to the .rockbox folder |
| 13:33:10 | Gunrun | righto |
| 13:34:17 | Gunrun | plugging in without menu now works as intended, boots to disk mode |
| 13:34:26 | linuxstb | :) |
| 13:34:38 | JdGordon | here also |
| 13:34:44 | * | JdGordon changed it to 30 btw |
| 13:35:04 | linuxstb | The build I gave Gunrun had it set to 20. |
| 13:35:08 | Gunrun | oh, and I only have to hold down menu for a tiny amount of time |
| 13:35:15 | linuxstb | Gunrun: Yes, that's the intention. |
| 13:35:17 | Gunrun | and now its charging while playing |
| 13:35:24 | Gunrun | so its working as intended |
| 13:35:40 | Gunrun | oh, no error either |
| 13:35:58 | linuxstb | What about booting the ipod with usb attached? Did that cause freezes for you in the past? (it did for me, and that also seems to be fixed) |
| 13:36:07 | Gunrun | one second |
| 13:36:43 | Gunrun | goes straight into disk mode, after the rockbox logo |
| 13:36:56 | Gunrun | I shall try booting while holding menu |
| 13:37:30 | Gunrun | hmm, holding down menu it still goes into disk mode |
| 13:38:01 | linuxstb | Yes, I think that's a problem with the button driver not detecting button presses made before Rockbox is running. |
| 13:38:09 | Gunrun | probably |
| 13:38:37 | Gunrun | what I say about that can't be 100% accurate anyway as I am using IPL |
| 13:38:56 | linuxstb | You mean the IPL bootloader? |
| 13:39:00 | Gunrun | yes |
| 13:39:22 | linuxstb | OK. I can live with that though - it's the other bugs that I was intending to fix. |
| 13:39:27 | Gunrun | well, its fixed |
| 13:39:40 | pixelma | linuxstb: if you want to commit - the build systen and table doesn't pick up commits ATM (in case you didn't notice yet :P ) |
| 13:39:42 | linuxstb | OK, now I just need to fix every single other Rockbox target... |
| 13:39:59 | linuxstb | pixelma: Not yet - my current patch breaks every other target... |
| 13:40:06 | Gunrun | is it a bad idea for me to keep this build on my iPod? |
| 13:40:08 | pixelma | I see |
| 13:40:34 | linuxstb | Gunrun: No, it should be fine. It's a clean SVN build apart from my patch, which only changes the usb detection. |
| 13:40:41 | Gunrun | ok |
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| 13:41:06 | linuxstb | pixelma: But thanks for the warning - this is the kind of patch I wouldn't want to commit without the build table. |
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| 13:44:41 | Pro | hi |
| 13:46:44 | Pro | i've just compiled rockbox from 22.8 |
| 13:46:55 | Pro | with album art and scrollmargins patches |
| 13:47:52 | Pro | but digipak wps doesnt work |
| 13:49:41 | Pro | and in DS AA blue |
| 13:49:41 | Pro | i dont see any album art |
| 13:49:41 | Pro | what am i doing wrong?? |
| 13:49:41 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Pro |
| 13:49:41 | Pro | plz help |
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| 13:50:46 | Pro | can someone send me a compiled .ro |
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| 13:50:50 | * | bluebrother goes fetching the crystal ball |
| 13:50:59 | bluebrother | well, there are two things: |
| 13:51:08 | bluebrother | 1. Album art is a patch and not supported. |
| 13:51:10 | pixelma | is your album art stored in a tag or? |
| 13:51:16 | bluebrother | 2. check the wps for errors |
| 13:51:17 | Pro | no |
| 13:51:25 | Pro | as cover.bmp |
| 13:51:29 | bluebrother | (f.e. by watching the output of the sim) |
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| 13:52:44 | bluebrother | the wps might be not updated for the current wps parser |
| 13:53:20 | pixelma | should be alright as separate bmp, that's almost all I know about album art... I believe the album art syntax also changed a while ago, but can't really help you with it |
| 13:53:22 | Pro | do you know which wps works for the current AA patch |
| 13:54:12 | parafin | Pro, which DAP do you use? |
| 13:54:24 | Pro | H340 |
| 13:55:13 | parafin | forums are down now, but i think there must be custom build for H340 |
| 13:55:42 | Pro | as far as i know there r some |
| 13:56:02 | Pro | but they are very old |
| 13:56:21 | Pro | and not updated |
| 13:56:27 | amiconn | Bagder_: ping.............. |
| 13:56:42 | Pro | do u know where i can get updated wps?? |
| 13:57:01 | bluebrother | Pro: well, build the sim and check the output when running with −−debugwps |
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| 14:03:50 | JdGordon | linuxstb: to go along with that patch.. can we change the button to charging if hold is enabled instead of a button beign pressed? |
| 14:07:02 | linuxstb | I think that could cause people to say "why doesn't my computer detect my ipod?" if they're not aware of that feature. The current method can't be invoked accidentally. |
| 14:07:24 | bluebrother | make it a setting and disable it as default |
| 14:07:43 | bluebrother | or display a splash upon detection telling something like "hold enabled, not entering disc mode" |
| 14:07:48 | JdGordon | people can adapt to the change, the problem with holding a b out down is that in the time between pressing and plugging the press could have triggered something... |
| 14:07:54 | JdGordon | like a screen change or somethign |
| 14:07:57 | linuxstb | Why is that easier though? Surely you have to physically hold the ipod to insert USB? |
| 14:08:34 | bluebrother | linuxstb: this doesn't work on the h300 where the rec button also invokes the recording screen |
| 14:08:55 | pixelma | holding mode for usb power on Ondio also triggers a screen change, doesn't annoy me though |
| 14:09:05 | amiconn | linuxstb: Shouldn't your patch apply to all pp502x targets? |
| 14:09:11 | amiconn | (re the necessary fixing) |
| 14:09:27 | bluebrother | on Ipods it invokes the quick screen when in wps. It's a bit annoying but I can live with it. |
| 14:09:33 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, it should work, but I haven't got as far as thinking about all the other targets yet... |
| 14:09:39 | bluebrother | it's much more annoying that you need to hold Menu for x seconds |
| 14:09:54 | linuxstb | bluebrother: That's a bug which I think I've now fixed. |
| 14:10:15 | bluebrother | yep, I noticed that. |
| 14:10:59 | ddalton | ok can someone tell me the lay out of the quick screen? |
| 14:11:30 | bluebrother | ddalton: you have three entries: |
| 14:11:52 | bluebrother | on the left is "Shuffle". Right is "Repeat" and bottom is "Show Files". |
| 14:12:13 | bluebrother | pressing left / right / down (and up on some players) cycles the appropriate entry |
| 14:12:35 | ddalton | bluebrother: is there no up? |
| 14:13:09 | bluebrother | ddalton: no. Some players (h100 for example) can do up, and that is used to cycle the bottom entry in the opposite direction |
| 14:13:32 | bluebrother | Ipods can't have up because the up key is menu, which leave the quick screen |
| 14:13:58 | ddalton | ok thanks I will see if I can get it talking. |
| 14:14:22 | ddalton | I think I know what to do. I know p6171 did this but it is out of date and I can't understand it. |
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| 14:15:53 | linuxstb | amiconn: My patch moves the check for the charge button into the usb_detect() function - which now returns either USB_EXTRACTED, USB_INSERTED or USB_POWER rather than a bool. Can you see any problem with that approach for all targets? |
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| 14:20:33 | ddalton | what is the option it is on as soon as you enter the screen? |
| 14:20:34 | ddalton | quick |
| 14:20:50 | bluebrother | none. |
| 14:21:09 | bluebrother | you don't have a selector, you just change the options by pressing the buttons |
| 14:21:16 | ddalton | so should the voice just say "Quick screen"? |
| 14:21:56 | bluebrother | I don't know what's best but possibly. You can tell the type of the option you change when changing it (i.e. "Shuffle: on" if shuffle was changed) |
| 14:22:07 | linuxstb | Maybe it should voice the current values of the three settings? |
| 14:25:12 | * | linuxstb updates patch to http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usbv3.diff |
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| 14:32:04 | ddalton | hmmm that's going to be harder than I thought. I am just voicing "Shuffle" and that is all. I guess that is wrong. |
| 14:34:15 | bluebrother | linuxstb: just tried your patch, my mini doesn't reboot to disk mode at all |
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| 14:34:51 | linuxstb | Which one? v2 or v3? |
| 14:35:12 | bluebrother | hmm, now it did ... it seems to be a bit unreliable. |
| 14:35:13 | bluebrother | v3. |
| 14:35:22 | linuxstb | What host OS? |
| 14:35:32 | bluebrother | linux. Build is current svn |
| 14:36:07 | linuxstb | Hmm.. Could you try increasing the "countdown = 20;" value at the end of firmware/target/arm/usb-fw-pp502x.c to 30 and see if that's more reliable? |
| 14:36:52 | bluebrother | sure ... building |
| 14:38:27 | Pro | bluebrother: i've just started the sim with −−debugwps |
| 14:38:53 | ddalton | who here knows about the quick screen code? |
| 14:39:00 | bluebrother | linuxstb: doesn't seem to be better :( |
| 14:39:21 | Pro | but i dont know what all the lines mean |
| 14:40:13 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Do you see anything in /var/log/messages when you attach? |
| 14:43:00 | * | linuxstb spots some life in the forums |
| 14:43:12 | bluebrother | linuxstb: no. Funny thing is that after a few reboots it's now working almost reliably. |
| 14:43:36 | linuxstb | _almost_ ? |
| 14:43:50 | linuxstb | How about an even higher value for countdown? e.g. 50? |
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| 14:44:09 | bluebrother | well, all my recent tries worked fine. The first ones (with value 30) didn't. |
| 14:44:19 | Masta | Hello |
| 14:44:30 | JdGordon | does anyone know which watermark triggers a cpu boost in playback? |
| 14:44:38 | bluebrother | Pro: well, does it tell anything about an error? |
| 14:45:18 | BigMac | bluebrother: export ?PATH='path' right |
| 14:45:25 | BigMac | in my bash profile |
| 14:45:31 | BigMac | *.bashrc |
| 14:45:35 | linuxstb | BigMac: $PATH, not ?PATH |
| 14:45:46 | BigMac | linuxstb: Oh, ok |
| 14:45:53 | bluebrother | and for exporting leave out the $ |
| 14:46:01 | linuxstb | BigMac: Sorry, forget that... |
| 14:46:16 | Masta | i have a question: i have a 30 gb 5th gen vid ipod that i'm running rockbox on. i have been experiencing really slow transfer rates to it, like 3-5 mb/second instead of 13-15mb/sec that i believe it used to have and that i can see my friend has on his ipod photo |
| 14:46:24 | bluebrother | you do PATH=foo in a script but when accessing the value you need to use echo $PATH |
| 14:46:27 | linuxstb | BigMac: Something like export PATH=$PATH:/new/path/ - to add a new directory to the existing path |
| 14:46:38 | Masta | anyone know what might be my problem? |
| 14:46:39 | ddalton | use the apple fw to transfer files. |
| 14:46:44 | ddalton | usb bootloader |
| 14:47:09 | linuxstb | Masta: Rockbox reboots into the Apple emergency disk mode. On some ipods, this is much slower than the disk mode in the main Apple firmware. |
| 14:47:12 | bluebrother | afaik the speed issue with usb only affects the nanos, so this is somewhat strange. |
| 14:47:21 | ddalton | I better go and learn structs or what ever they are called. |
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| 14:48:03 | Masta | usb bootloader, so i need to carry that around with me on the disc and activate/deactivate rockbox when i want to transefer files? |
| 14:48:10 | bluebrother | ddalton: structs are quite easy ... you just "combine" several variables. You access the indidual members using the . operator (or -> if accessing via a pointer) |
| 14:48:28 | ddalton | no you boot in to the apple fw and then connect to your computer. |
| 14:48:28 | linuxstb | Masta: No, just boot into the original Apple firmware before attaching to USB. |
| 14:48:32 | bluebrother | Masta: there is no usb bootloader mode on the Ipods −− those have apple emergency disk mode |
| 14:48:35 | ddalton | once you are done just reset it |
| 14:48:53 | ddalton | that's what I was trying to say. |
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| 14:50:00 | * | bluebrother wishes someone would find the reason for the discmode reboot hang |
| 14:51:46 | linuxstb | I haven't experienced any hanging whilst testing my patch. |
| 14:51:52 | Masta | ok, i got it working |
| 14:51:55 | Masta | thank you very much :) |
| 14:52:14 | bluebrother | linuxstb: well, the old hang upon reboot. IIRC it's only mini-related |
| 14:52:23 | bluebrother | but I assume this is completely unrelated. |
| 14:52:32 | linuxstb | I used to experience that on my Photo before my patch. |
| 14:52:42 | bluebrother | oh? |
| 14:52:56 | linuxstb | I don't think it's specific to the mini. |
| 14:52:56 | bluebrother | ok, I now use countdown = 50 and it works as expected. |
| 14:53:23 | linuxstb | Is your Linux box relatively slow? |
| 14:53:34 | bluebrother | I think usb mode is even more responsive |
| 14:53:52 | bluebrother | it's a P-M 1.4GHz. I wouldn't consider that relatively slow ... |
| 14:54:19 | linuxstb | No. I thought you mentioned a 450MHz box in the past though? |
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| 14:54:47 | bluebrother | yep −− that's my old desktop box. I used it sometimes for building and as file server |
| 14:55:06 | * | petur would :p |
| 14:55:13 | linuxstb | So you're still experiencing reboot hangs with my patch? |
| 14:55:28 | bluebrother | like the other week when ddalton asked about build times on low-end machines. But now the hard disk died ... |
| 14:55:31 | bluebrother | linuxstb: yes. |
| 14:55:48 | linuxstb | OK, so there was possibly more than one cause for it... |
| 14:55:55 | bluebrother | petur: it's fast enough for almost everything of my work. And it's a really great Thinkpad, a good old IBM one ;-) |
| 14:55:58 | linuxstb | (or I've just been lucky) |
| 14:56:23 | petur | ah thinkpad... quite reliable things... |
| 14:56:30 | linuxstb | petur: Could you test my USB patch on your H10? |
| 14:56:36 | petur | sure |
| 14:56:37 | bluebrother | well, I sometimes had builds that did not hang. But I haven't found a pattern :( |
| 14:56:58 | bluebrother | petur: yep ... really great machine. I won't give it away ;-) |
| 14:57:10 | * | petur gives up trying to get kslimp3 compiled :( |
| 14:57:44 | petur | how does one tell what version of QT you have? |
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| 14:58:21 | bluebrother | petur: you can call qtconfig / qtconfig-qt4 and check help / about qt |
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| 15:00:09 | petur | linuxstb: is it http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/usbv3.diff ? |
| 15:00:20 | linuxstb | Yes |
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| 15:10:05 | petur | linuxstb: want the output? |
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| 15:11:15 | petur | looking good btw... |
| 15:11:51 | BigMac | Any gigabeat users? Or anyone know why tapping the cented of the crosshair is no longer pausing? |
| 15:11:57 | linuxstb | petur: I just want to make sure that USB detection is still working fine, including entering charge mode by holding POWER. |
| 15:12:27 | linuxstb | BigMac: Because the function of A and center have been swapped in the WPS. |
| 15:12:45 | BigMac | linuxstb: Oh, and how do I stop now? |
| 15:12:50 | petur | linuxstb: if doesn't see usb, it never has iirc (I always powerdown-connect-boot) |
| 15:13:24 | linuxstb | It doesn't reboot into the OF? |
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| 15:13:44 | petur | let me build a clean svn and try |
| 15:13:54 | linuxstb | Hmm, so I'm not sure what my patch would change on the H10... |
| 15:14:20 | linuxstb | BigMac: You stop the same way as you always have - with the power button. |
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| 15:15:17 | BigMac | linuxstb: a used to stop as well |
| 15:15:34 | linuxstb | A used to take me to the file browser, without stopping or pausing. |
| 15:16:37 | petur | linuxstb: clean svn shows a little usb icon in the statusbar when connecting, but nothing more |
| 15:17:09 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm, not sure, probably depends on the rest of your implementation |
| 15:17:16 | linuxstb | petur: OK, thanks. |
| 15:17:33 | amiconn | Not all targets have usb power (archos player, recorder v1 and iriver 1x0 don't) |
| 15:18:04 | amiconn | ...and 2 targets don't have charging at all, but have usb power (the Ondios) |
| 15:18:06 | linuxstb | That should be fine - the usb_detect() function would just return either USB_INSERTED or USB_EXTRACTED on those targets. |
| 15:18:28 | linuxstb | And I guess on Ondio, it would be USB_EXTRACTED or USB_POWERED |
| 15:19:56 | amiconn | On Ondio you need all 3 values |
| 15:20:21 | amiconn | It should work as long as your patch doesn't touch the logic in powermgmt.c |
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| 15:22:03 | amiconn | On a target with charging + usb power, both usb and mains power should make rockbox display the charging animation. Mains power should show the little plug icon, USB power should show a little USB plug instead of the normal plug |
| 15:23:33 | amiconn | Unfortunately I can't test right now |
| 15:23:56 | JdGordon | sansa has no problem running @ 24mhz halfing the current pcmbuf watermark point... but the UI is unfortuantly unsuable at that speed |
| 15:25:08 | linuxstb | amiconn: My patch currrently just changes firmware/usb.c slightly, plus the usb_detect() in usb-fw-pp502x.c. I've no intention of touching powermgmt.c |
| 15:25:19 | JdGordon | 36% boost ratio instead of the 55+ or whatever it is with svn |
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| 15:26:28 | amiconn | JdGordon: Eh? What are you doing? |
| 15:26:50 | JdGordon | trying to get better runtime on the sansa |
| 15:26:56 | amiconn | how? |
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| 15:27:43 | JdGordon | it currentl boosts when the pcmbuf is lower than the watermark, which is fine on all targets except the flash ones because it has no problem filling it up before it runs out |
| 15:28:12 | JdGordon | in svn its 44100*4*2, i removed the *4 and just listened to a cd witout any problkems |
| 15:28:46 | amiconn | eh? |
| 15:29:14 | JdGordon | top of pcmbuf.c there is a #define which tells it when to boost... |
| 15:29:17 | amiconn | Lowering the pcmbuf watermark should neither change boost ratio nor battery runtime |
| 15:29:29 | amiconn | It just boosts/unboosts less often |
| 15:29:50 | JdGordon | boosting less often should increase batt life, no? |
| 15:30:30 | amiconn | It boosts and unboosts less often, but the ratio should stay the same |
| 15:30:54 | JdGordon | nope |
| 15:31:02 | JdGordon | sansa does alot of unneeded boosts |
| 15:31:42 | amiconn | It shouldn't. |
| 15:31:42 | JdGordon | or im ging crazy and the boost ratio isnt as close to 50% as i thought |
| 15:31:56 | amiconn | If it does, there must be some fundamental bug which does not only affect sansa |
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| 15:33:14 | JdGordon | thats probable also. it boosts because it thinks it cant fill the pcmbuf fast enough from the codec buffer(?) without boosting |
| 15:35:26 | amiconn | Yes, and this estimation should be correct |
| 15:36:28 | amiconn | Lowering the low watermark just changes the hysteresis, so it boosts later, but longer (because more data is needed until the buffer is full) |
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| 15:46:38 | amiconn | Bagder_: ping......... |
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| 15:51:06 | JdGordon | im pretty sure their mobiles are on haxx.se somewhere if you _really_ want to nag them |
| 15:51:21 | amiconn | I have them... |
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| 15:55:24 | rasher | amiconn: Nice job on the voicebuilding update. Did you add voice selection, or is that yet to come? |
| 15:56:46 | rasher | Looks like you didn't do that yet |
| 15:56:51 | amiconn | That's yet to come, together with sapi4 support (sloo-oow) |
| 15:57:44 | rasher | At least you can use the pool to generatemultiple voices |
| 15:57:47 | amiconn | The perl script won't be extended for that, sapi4/5 will just be a parameter for the vbscript |
| 15:57:53 | delYsid | btw, I just patched voice.pl to support the cepstral swift engine on Linux. |
| 15:58:09 | rasher | Speaking of, we should include the tts-config in the pool-filename |
| 15:58:15 | delYsid | is there interest in such a patch? (small and simple) |
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| 15:58:21 | rasher | (or rather, in the string used for md5) |
| 15:58:37 | rasher | delYsid: Certainly - I guess you patched tools/configure as well? |
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| 15:58:54 | delYsid | rasher: yes. |
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| 16:00:42 | petur | wtf, I can no longer build the manual :( it just goes to 100% cpu and on ctrl-c it says "make[1]: *** [manual-pdf] Interrupt" about a thousand times :( |
| 16:00:52 | petur | any ideas? |
| 16:04:35 | BigMac_ | So what is this new "ohiloh" deal that most of the devs have in their signature |
| 16:05:00 | petur | it's a site that monitors open source projects |
| 16:05:13 | petur | gives statistics |
| 16:05:26 | petur | and it's ohloh |
| 16:06:57 | JdGordon | the geek version of facebook :p |
| 16:07:54 | BigMac_ | petur: Oh, it looks like an i in the middle, my fault |
| 16:08:15 | BigMac_ | So which dev has the most "kudos" currently |
| 16:08:34 | Soap | desowin: cool runtime numbers - do you know what the original firmware gets? |
| 16:08:39 | BigMac_ | looks like Badger |
| 16:09:54 | desowin | Soap: no, I use OF only for usb, and this is brand new sansa - I have it since tuesday |
| 16:10:38 | delYsid | hmm, how do I submit a patch to this tracker thing? |
| 16:10:43 | Soap | I was just curious where the Sansa was as far as a RB:OF |
| 16:11:07 | desowin | also OF doesn't support ogg ;-) |
| 16:11:44 | JdGordon | Soap: the sansa advertising is 24+ i think |
| 16:13:48 | Febs | delYsid: "Add new task." |
| 16:14:02 | BigMac_ | Anyone have a recommendation for a decent, relatively low priced pair of headphones |
| 16:14:13 | BigMac_ | like ~50 bucks maybe |
| 16:14:19 | Febs | BigMac_: please take the off-topic discussion to #rockbox-community. |
| 16:14:25 | * | petur notes ohloh is getting killed by its own success - clearly their systems are overloading, projects barely get refreshed anymore (rockbox was scheduled by hand on request) |
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| 16:15:17 | delYsid | Febs: where the heck do I find this? |
| 16:16:01 | desowin | petur: they didn't think there are so many geeks ;-) |
| 16:16:14 | petur | :) |
| 16:16:35 | delYsid | gah, I so hate webinterfaces, it takes 5 times longer to submit the patch than to write it. |
| 16:16:47 | Febs | delYsid: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ |
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| 16:17:56 | delYsid | Febs: I am sorry, I only see the big search mask, but no way to submit a new patch. |
| 16:18:00 | delYsid | I am using lynx and I am blind. |
| 16:18:41 | delYsid | do I perhaps have to create an account first? |
| 16:18:41 | Febs | delYsid: did you create an account? |
| 16:18:52 | Febs | Yes, create an account and log in. |
| 16:18:53 | delYsid | ah :-) |
| 16:19:13 | delYsid | contribution prevention systems :-) |
| 16:20:10 | petur | more like spam prevention imho |
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| 16:41:01 | petur | so... any ideas on why I can't build the manual anymore? make just goes hanging. running make to build binaries works fine |
| 16:41:42 | petur | did the apt-get from the wiki and all packages are there |
| 16:41:48 | petur | (still there) |
| 16:43:09 | petur | hmmm I found a build dir with a manual makefile and that runs but gives some errors :/ |
| 16:46:19 | petur | can somebody check if building a manual works after running configure? |
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| 16:49:44 | delYsid | So, I created FS #7689, can anyone perhaps look at it and maybe check it in. its really simple. |
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| 18:19:57 | pianohacker | I just bought a Sansa e250, and installed rockbox on it. Is there anything I can do to help get usb up and running? |
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| 18:22:50 | Nico_P | pianohacker: USB is being worked on by austriancoder |
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| 18:23:07 | Nico_P | pianohacker: his code is in SVN already so you can take a look at that |
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| 18:25:30 | pianohacker | Nico_P: Okay, thanks. |
| 18:25:54 | Nico_P | pianohacker: his real name is Christian Gmeiner |
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| 18:26:52 | pianohacker | While rebooting into the original firmware isn't too big a deal, it'd be nice not to have to. |
| 18:27:21 | linuxstb | I think everyone agrees with that... |
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| 18:33:56 | pianohacker | The code in /trunk/firmware/usbstack/drivers/device appears to be device-neutral; am I looking in the wrong place? |
| 18:35:37 | n1s | petur: building manuals works fine for me (ubuntu) |
| 18:36:24 | linuxstb | pianohacker: What do you mean "device-neutral" ? Those are the high-level USB drivers - serial and ums - which afaik are far from complete at this stage. |
| 18:36:50 | linuxstb | pianohacker: There's also code in firmware/drivers/usb/ |
| 18:37:27 | linuxstb | arcotg_dcd.c is the new code - the stuff in arcotg_udc is old and will be removed when the new code is working. |
| 18:39:09 | pianohacker | linuxstb: Okay, it did look high-level. Once I get home, I'll set up a build environment so I can start hacking on this. Thank you. |
| 18:40:01 | ptw419 | i need to update my trunk b/c the build i have hasn't got hte usb stack in it yet.. |
| 18:40:51 | linuxstb | If I was you, I would constantly be syncing with trunk... |
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| 18:43:45 | Gunrun | Does anyone know why the Rockbox GBC emulator has a constant high crackling noise? |
| 18:43:47 | ptw419 | yes so i've been told... |
| 18:43:59 | BK | Hey, is there any way to speed up the playback on rockbox (on a sansa)? |
| 18:44:05 | Gunrun | Not that it matters but still |
| 18:44:16 | Gunrun | speed it up as in fast forward? |
| 18:44:22 | BK | no |
| 18:44:27 | bluebrother | speed up as in faster playback? Check for the pitch function. |
| 18:44:34 | n1s | BK open context menu oin the wps and go to "pitch" |
| 18:44:37 | bluebrother | it's described in the manual. |
| 18:44:55 | bluebrother | and it's not time-stretching ... |
| 18:45:00 | BK | yes, but that changes the pitch also, is there a was not to change the pitch while speeding the playback up? |
| 18:45:13 | n1s | no |
| 18:45:15 | Gunrun | BK like what the amazing slow downer does? |
| 18:45:20 | BigBambi | Nope, feel free to add it :) |
| 18:45:40 | * | bluebrother dislikes the use of "pitch" for time-stretching |
| 18:45:46 | BK | Gunrun, yes only in the other direction |
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| 18:55:17 | * | petur discovers the perfect way to get manual building borked :) |
| 18:56:23 | petur | seems I have managed to run configure in the manual directory some time in the past.... |
| 18:57:22 | * | petur would really like a toroise like integration of svn in a linux filebrowser |
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| 18:59:21 | krazykit | petur, you could do it with thunar and some custom actions |
| 18:59:47 | krazykit | i'm sure nautilus and konqueror can do it too |
| 18:59:58 | petur | krazykit: what I want is the overlay icons that windows explorer has |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:09 | krazykit | oh |
| 19:00:18 | petur | you can see if *any* file in a subdir tree is modified |
| 19:00:34 | petur | Then I would have seen my mistake at once |
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| 19:03:26 | krazykit | i only know of 3 graphical clients: rapidsvn, kdesvn, esvn. dunno how good any of them are or if they have the features you want |
| 19:03:56 | petur | I have rapidsvn now but is isn't very userfriendly |
| 19:04:33 | petur | I think nothing can beat windows explorer + tortoisesvn at the moment... very userfriendly |
| 19:04:55 | petur | I really miss the explorer and tortoise on linux :( |
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| 19:06:52 | Nico_P | kdesvn is quite nice but I'm perfectly pleased with the CLI |
| 19:07:53 | godess | what is tortoisesvn? |
| 19:08:27 | petur | _the_ best SVN gui client |
| 19:08:34 | petur | (imho) |
| 19:10:19 | godess | i prefer linux on a virtual machine |
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| 19:18:39 | Soap | is there a reason, kugel, you rotate through (at tleast) three nicks? |
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| 19:20:00 | webguest38 | He-he. I like how the first entry on the 'MajorChanges' wiki page is "Minor keymap change..." :-) |
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| 19:20:41 | kugel | 3 nicks? |
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| 19:20:56 | kugel | i only changed from godess to kugel |
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| 19:22:03 | kugel | because i changed my forum account to kugel. |
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| 19:22:27 | kugel | anythingbutipod forum |
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| 19:24:27 | linuxstb | You didn't log in as diablo? |
| 19:24:43 | kugel | dunno |
| 19:25:21 | kugel | my username is diablo, but my nickname was godess, and now its kugel |
| 19:32:02 | Nico_P | that's simple |
| 19:32:26 | petur | Nico_P: how's MoB going? |
| 19:33:03 | Nico_P | petur: I'll soon be able to get back to wroking on it... as soon as I'm done with the math resits |
| 19:33:43 | petur | resits are a real waste of time, it is much more efficient to get it right the first time ;) |
| 19:33:44 | Nico_P | which will be on the 4th |
| 19:34:02 | Nico_P | petur: agreeed, I'll try that startegy next time |
| 19:34:16 | petur | do that, you'll love it |
| 19:34:38 | Nico_P | :) |
| 19:35:02 | Nico_P | petur: so dod you pass austriancoder ? |
| 19:35:06 | * | petur discovers that linux dependency hell is not much different than windows dll hell :/ |
| 19:35:07 | Nico_P | s/dod/did |
| 19:35:42 | Gunrun | petur driver issues? |
| 19:35:45 | petur | yes I did pass him in the end... |
| 19:36:11 | petur | want to try kdesvn but it won't install because of conflicts |
| 19:36:22 | Nico_P | petur: cool :) I think that was the right thing to do |
| 19:36:55 | Nico_P | anyway, gtg |
| 19:36:58 | petur | Nico_P: to be very honest, there has been quite some chatter on the mentor mailing list |
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| 19:37:14 | BigMac_ | Shouldn't %cl:%cM %ac output the time in 12 hour format? |
| 19:37:21 | Nico_P | petur: rockbox's or google's ? |
| 19:37:22 | petur | and based on their standards, neither you or austriancoder would have been passed |
| 19:37:39 | petur | seems the other GSoC orgs were much stricter |
| 19:37:57 | petur | no commit or contact for a week = dropped |
| 19:38:27 | Nico_P | I always was careful to warn Llorean before I left |
| 19:38:58 | BigMac_ | Anyone know, because it seems correct according to the wiki |
| 19:39:14 | BigMac_ | but it is still outputting 13:39 PM |
| 19:39:16 | Gunrun | Why not just try it? |
| 19:39:20 | Gunrun | : / |
| 19:39:20 | BigMac_ | I did |
| 19:39:36 | BigMac_ | It should be 1:39 PM |
| 19:39:51 | linuxstb | Isn't there a setting to choose between 12h/24h time display? |
| 19:39:57 | BigMac_ | Yes |
| 19:40:01 | BigMac_ | I have it set to 12h |
| 19:40:11 | BigMac_ | but slant sets it to 24h time |
| 19:40:19 | BigMac_ | so I switched it to 12h |
| 19:40:28 | BigMac_ | but that doesn't seem to be working |
| 19:40:36 | Nico_P | BigMac_: the setting doesn't affect the WPS. the WPS creator decides this |
| 19:40:58 | Nico_P | BigMac_: you need to change the WPS if you prefer 12h |
| 19:41:06 | BigMac_ | Nico_P: As I said |
| 19:41:09 | BigMac_ | I have |
| 19:41:12 | Nico_P | oh sorry |
| 19:41:13 | BigMac_ | but it isn't working |
| 19:41:47 | BigMac_ | so I am near positive the tagging is right, and I reloaded the wps as well |
| 19:41:48 | Nico_P | BigMac_: tell us the RTC tags you're using |
| 19:42:18 | BigMac_ | %cl:%cm %ac |
| 19:42:26 | linuxstb | Why does the WPS have tags for 12h/24h ? Shouldn't it always obey the user's global setting? |
| 19:42:30 | BigMac_ | Should be 1:42 Pm |
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| 19:42:38 | BigMac_ | not 13:42 PM |
| 19:42:41 | Nico_P | petur: I agree the evaluation could have been stricter based on the completeness of the work, but a negative eval would have been pretty discouraging IMHO |
| 19:43:27 | petur | Nico_P: don't take it personal, but GSoC really should be seen as a real job with the same responsabilities... |
| 19:44:02 | petur | If I look at how things went and ask myself, would my boss allow it, the answer is: fired in the first week |
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| 19:44:49 | petur | have good resits now and come back to continue MoB and all is well ;) |
| 19:44:51 | Nico_P | petur: I agree, but I still think we did quite well for a first year |
| 19:44:59 | Nico_P | petur: thanks :) |
| 19:45:11 | BigMac_ | Nico_P: Is that phrasing wrong? |
| 19:46:29 | Nico_P | BigMac_: the second tag is %cM, right ? but I don't understand why %cl gives you 13 |
| 19:46:43 | Nico_P | but I need to leave now |
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| 19:47:50 | BigMac_ | Yes it is cM |
| 19:47:54 | BigMac_ | anyone else know |
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| 19:49:46 | * | petur looks for something to commit to test kdesvn |
| 19:50:06 | linuxstb | petur: Don't forget the build table is stuck in August... |
| 19:50:23 | petur | recent svn activity too |
| 19:50:39 | * | linuxstb pings Bagder_ but expects the destination to be unreachable |
| 19:50:41 | petur | that is sooooo last month :) |
| 19:51:36 | petur | did somebody try to mail the swedes? |
| 19:51:42 | petur | or call? |
| 19:51:46 | * | linuxstb didn't |
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| 19:55:04 | * | petur wonders why all the usefull tips on the mentor list were posted after evaluations ended... |
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| 20:00:22 | bluebrother | petur: if you want to try out a command line svn you should try colorsvn −− it's much nicer with colors |
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| 20:01:38 | petur | kdesvn seems to do the tree coloring thing I was missing in rapidsvn... I'll try it for some time.... I left cli operations when I went from dos to windows - linux should catch up :) |
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| 20:02:38 | krazykit | comparing dos to a modern *nix shell is like comparing aol 3.0 to firefox. |
| 20:03:12 | bluebrother | indeed ... using windows' cmd is always a pain |
| 20:03:19 | bluebrother | being used to bash :) |
| 20:03:21 | petur | well I used a replacement command.com that was also quite powerfull |
| 20:03:48 | * | petur excuses for the OT chatter |
| 20:08:21 | Soap | uh, developers can talk about Moose droppings if they want to. |
| 20:10:13 | * | petur reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose for some info on that topic |
| 20:10:45 | petur | at least it is related to sweden :) |
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| 20:12:53 | * | linuxstb points any bored people at a patch that could do with some testing before committing - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7691 |
| 20:13:26 | * | n1s is bored but has no ipod |
| 20:13:36 | n1s | or other pp thingy |
| 20:13:48 | petur | any significant changes compared to v3? |
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| 20:14:09 | petur | btw, the diff is 0 bytes :) |
| 20:14:59 | mike__ | Did any of the GSOC teams make any progress or complete anything |
| 20:15:31 | petur | wma is usable I think, the other two passed ones need more work |
| 20:15:51 | n1s | wma is pretty much finished except for seeking |
| 20:16:00 | Soap | WMA is very useable with problems only (?) in low-bitrate files. |
| 20:16:06 | Soap | and that ^^ |
| 20:16:09 | n1s | and of course further optimization :-) |
| 20:16:54 | mike__ | Oh nice, how far along is MOB |
| 20:16:56 | mike__ | Is it still working |
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| 20:17:31 | n1s | iiuc it's not merged into rockbox yet |
| 20:17:40 | petur | Nico_P said he will resume work shortly |
| 20:19:54 | Soap | linuxstb: did you see petur's comment that the .diff for 7691 is 0 bytes? |
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| 20:27:10 | delYsid | Anyone wanna look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7689 ? |
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| 20:32:37 | linuxstb | Soap: Fixed now, thanks. |
| 20:32:43 | Soap | thank you. |
| 20:32:53 | Soap | I'll test it on 5G on windows and ubuntu |
| 20:33:25 | petur | linuxstb: I guess this makes no difference for H10? |
| 20:33:31 | linuxstb | petur: The patch should now work for all targets - i.e. it's what I want to commit to SVN. The PP parts should be the same as v3, apart from increasing the timeout to 50 ticks, which is what bluebrother reported as being needed. |
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| 20:38:46 | webguest20 | can anyone tell me how to set me Sansa e250 to UMS mode? |
| 20:39:40 | webguest20 | hello? |
| 20:40:37 | bagawk | webguest20: somewhere in the user settings... |
| 20:40:52 | webguest20 | It's been like 400 years since I used IRC |
| 20:40:57 | bagawk | webguest20: I do not have one, so I cannot say exactly where |
| 20:41:06 | webguest20 | It's been like 400 years since I used IRC |
| 20:41:21 | Soap | it would be neat if somehow you could retreive patches from flyspray through svn from the command line |
| 20:41:33 | kugel | how to sync patches? |
| 20:41:48 | webguest20 | don't see an option called 'user settings' it's running Rockbox |
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| 20:42:33 | BigBambi | webguest20: Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode on Sansa |
| 20:42:39 | BigBambi | You need to use the OF |
| 20:43:13 | BigBambi | The settings bagawk was talking about is in the Sansa firmware |
| 20:43:14 | linuxstb | bluebrother: rbutilqt for the Mac - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/rbutilqt.dmg (finally...) |
| 20:43:49 | kugel | isnt UMS mode = MSC mode? |
| 20:43:53 | Soap | yes |
| 20:44:16 | linuxstb | bluebrother: It's a universal binary, but I've no idea if it has linked Qt statically or not. The binary is about 900KB per architecture. |
| 20:44:22 | webguest20 | you lost me. Can I not plug it in and drop MP3s onto it anymore? |
| 20:44:38 | kugel | webguest20: Then go un the OF -> settings -> USB mode -> MSC mode |
| 20:44:52 | webguest20 | I can't even revert to old firmware if my PC can't see it on USB |
| 20:45:00 | kugel | omg |
| 20:45:02 | linuxstb | webguest20: Can you start the original firmware? |
| 20:45:13 | kugel | restart the player, and hold |<< while its booting |
| 20:45:38 | kugel | or turn it off, and plug your cable into the player, then it will bot into the OF |
| 20:45:46 | webguest20 | don't see an option called 'OF' |
| 20:46:02 | kugel | OF is the original stock firmware |
| 20:46:08 | kugel | everything that is not rockbox |
| 20:46:39 | webguest20 | ah |
| 20:46:42 | webguest20 | ok |
| 20:46:47 | BigBambi | webguest20: This is in the manual |
| 20:46:56 | kugel | just turn your player off, and plug the cable in |
| 20:47:58 | kugel | can anyone tell me how to sync patches? do i need to apply them to an older svn, update the svn and and then make a diff? |
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| 20:51:03 | Soap | linuxstb: is my 5th gen perhaps a bad test case? I never had to hold the "menu" button for more than a second in the past to prevent booting into disk mode. |
| 20:57:39 | stripwax | kugel yep that's one way. or apply them by hand to the current svn (and then make the diff) |
| 20:58:48 | stripwax | if you apply to old svn, and then update svn, you'll get conflicts anyway .. so either you'll need to fix the conflicts by hand (if patching old svn then updating), or apply the patch by hand (if trying to patch latest svn).. |
| 20:59:07 | kugel | when i download f.e. the svn as of 8/1/07 |
| 20:59:32 | kugel | the patch didnt apply to that one either |
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| 21:00:04 | stripwax | probably you'd use the svn as-of when the patch was written |
| 21:00:20 | stripwax | or maybe the patch author had already patched his source with other patches, who knows |
| 21:00:23 | kugel | that patch is as of 7/31 |
| 21:00:31 | stripwax | try svn as of 7/31 ! |
| 21:00:35 | linuxstb | Soap: I think it was mainly a Windows issue - I didn't get that problem on my ipod Color with Linux either. |
| 21:00:45 | Soap | linuxstb: no problems on ubuntu or windows so far with your patch |
| 21:00:46 | kugel | 8/1 is the last i can find on the rokcbox page |
| 21:00:53 | linuxstb | Soap: But I'm sure GodEater_ reported it with his 5.5g |
| 21:01:07 | Soap | I'm going to leave it long-term plugged into my windows box and see anything changes. |
| 21:01:18 | linuxstb | Soap: So everything is working as it should? i.e. normal USB detection, and overriding it with MENU? |
| 21:01:21 | stripwax | kugel - oh, you can just "svn update -r version" if you know the svn version number |
| 21:01:26 | stripwax | to get back to old svn |
| 21:01:40 | stripwax | um, i think. i might have the wrong svn syntax |
| 21:01:46 | Soap | both booting into USB mode and NOT booting into USB mode with "Menu" pressed are working. |
| 21:02:11 | linuxstb | Soap: That's good, thanks. |
| 21:02:55 | Soap | Windows is being a bitch and not ejecting, but it was doing that w/o the patch as well. |
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| 21:03:56 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "eject"? "safely disconnect"? |
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| 21:04:00 | stripwax | kugel - see here, it's even in the wiki. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingSVN |
| 21:04:11 | stripwax | tells you how to checkout an older version of source |
| 21:06:00 | kugel | ok |
| 21:06:22 | linuxstb | kugel: Which patch are you trying to apply? |
| 21:06:23 | kugel | i read that, but i missunderstood that point in the first place |
| 21:06:39 | kugel | custom line |
| 21:07:29 | linuxstb | Have you applied the other patches that patch depends on? |
| 21:07:46 | kugel | yes |
| 21:08:09 | kugel | multifont |
| 21:08:52 | linuxstb | Only multifont? |
| 21:09:16 | linuxstb | According to an earlier comment, it needs ymargin-scrollinfo_20070728.patch, scroll-margins_20070728.patch and multifont_complete-20070724.patch |
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| 21:11:23 | kugel | oh |
| 21:12:00 | kugel | i just reat the first few comments and the last one because the author said only multifont is needed |
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| 21:37:15 | * | petur preps for recording field test in half an hour :) |
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| 21:44:25 | rasher | amiconn: strange - progress output is broken on windows? (but building voice is fast now!) |
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| 21:47:35 | rasher | delYsid: Is your Flyspray username your real name? |
| 21:47:52 | rasher | delYsid: assuming it wasn't someone else who independently submitted swift support |
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| 21:49:55 | rasher | delYsid: Just need confirmation of this, and I'll commit it |
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| 21:51:00 | bluebrother | linuxstb: 900k sounds too less to me for being statically linkes −− a static linux binary needs about 8MB here (which can be shrinked to 3.5MB using upx) |
| 21:51:42 | bluebrother | I don't know too much about mac, but can't you list the linked binaries in a similar way ldd does? |
| 21:52:14 | linuxstb | Maybe, but there's no ldd command. I don't know much about macs either... |
| 21:52:38 | linuxstb | But as I didn't explictly specify static linking, I'm assuming it's not. |
| 21:52:59 | bluebrother | it should link statically if you build Qt with -static |
| 21:53:00 | linuxstb | BTW, I needed to add two lines to the .pro file which only need to be there for the Mac - do you know how to do that? |
| 21:53:13 | bluebrother | at least that's the way it works on windows |
| 21:53:27 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I was expecting you to say that... I'll and remember to set that going overnight tonight. |
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| 21:54:23 | bluebrother | sure: use the scope macx |
| 21:54:50 | bluebrother | similar to the rbutilqt.pro:103 |
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| 21:55:06 | bluebrother | macx { mac-specific stuff here } |
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| 21:55:28 | linuxstb | OK, I'll do that and commit the required changes. |
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| 21:55:46 | bluebrother | great. |
| 21:55:48 | linuxstb | I've already added some notes on the rbutilqt wiki page about building. |
| 21:56:02 | linuxstb | (mainly so I don't forget myself...) |
| 21:56:34 | linuxstb | After rebuilding qt with -static, is there anything I need to do when building rbutilqt? |
| 21:56:45 | bluebrother | nice. Hopefully I'll figure the reason for that crash LinusN reported. |
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| 21:58:16 | bluebrother | afterwards all non-visual issues are fixed. Unless someone reports new ones ;-) |
| 21:58:28 | bluebrother | (or my memory tricked me to forget about some ;) |
| 21:58:58 | rasher | bluebrother: Debian packaging might expose some fun portability bugs |
| 21:59:18 | bluebrother | rasher: true ... I started building a Fedora package. |
| 21:59:34 | rasher | Of course, I doubt it's a huge issue (for rbutil) if it doesn't build on say, hppa |
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| 22:00:06 | bluebrother | well, I don't think that platform is supported by Qt. So ... |
| 22:00:53 | rasher | http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libqt4-dev |
| 22:01:14 | rasher | mips, arm, s390.. fun times may await you |
| 22:01:22 | bluebrother | wow ... didn't expect that. |
| 22:01:31 | rasher | Or not, if everything's done with Qt's stuff |
| 22:01:40 | rasher | Me neither, to be honest |
| 22:01:52 | delYsid | rasher: yes, I am mlang on flyspray. |
| 22:02:09 | rasher | delYsid: And that's your real name? |
| 22:02:15 | rasher | Well not mlang, but you know |
| 22:02:26 | delYsid | sure, I am Mario Lang. |
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| 22:03:24 | rasher | delYsid: Committed. |
| 22:03:42 | linuxstb | Is there a wiki page with samples of all these different voice engines we're accumulating support for? |
| 22:04:10 | rasher | Some might not allow even that.. although you might be able to claim fair use |
| 22:04:56 | linuxstb | Yes, I would hope that a short sample for review purposes would come under fair use. |
| 22:05:11 | rasher | Probably does |
| 22:05:34 | delYsid | I can provide a sample for the swift file if anyone cares to listen to it, but I am not sure about licensing for public use. |
| 22:06:16 | delYsid | swift is pretty cheap given the quality IMO. |
| 22:06:20 | delYsid | rasher: thanks. |
| 22:06:58 | rasher | A short sample *should* be fair use - even if you're distributing it (at least I'd like to think it should). But I'm no lawyer.. |
| 22:08:04 | linuxstb | Ah, seems cepstral have a "audio distribution license" for sale - $399 if you want to distribute the output... |
| 22:08:09 | linuxstb | https://www.cepstral.com/cgi-bin/store/home?page=licensing |
| 22:08:31 | linuxstb | Sorry, I meant $199.95 (per voice) |
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| 22:08:52 | bluebrother | linuxstb: if you build Qt on windows you can "make sub-src" to only build the library and omit examples and stuff. I guess it's similar on mac |
| 22:09:18 | delYsid | linuxstb: ah, thats interesting, didnt know about that. |
| 22:09:27 | rasher | linuxstb: if the quality is good - Rockbox could buy such a license.. that's not too expensive. Although it does run rather counter to the idea of Opensource etc. |
| 22:10:23 | linuxstb | rasher: I agree - it's affordable if the quality justifies it. It can also run on Linux, which means it could generate voices automatically on the build server. |
| 22:10:46 | linuxstb | delYsid: How is the quality? |
| 22:11:01 | * | linuxstb spots a "demos" link on the site... |
| 22:11:03 | delYsid | pretty good if you ask me, its natural sounding. |
| 22:11:17 | delYsid | its based on concatenative speech, and the voice I use is about 150MB. |
| 22:11:42 | linuxstb | Bah, the demos link crashes my firefox (as most sites with audio do...). |
| 22:12:03 | delYsid | you can just download the voices. |
| 22:12:16 | delYsid | if you havent licensed them, it will prefix with a warning and speak anyway. |
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| 22:12:19 | rasher | I wonder if they, or another company would perhaps consider a sponsor deal where they provide voice that we can redistribute in exchagne for a notice or link or such |
| 22:12:20 | delYsid | so you can try it yourself |
| 22:12:38 | linuxstb | Any recommendation for which voice? |
| 22:13:03 | rasher | $string =~ s/^\s+([^\s]*)\s+$/$1/; |
| 22:13:03 | delYsid | Callie if you want english, or Amy. |
| 22:13:05 | linuxstb | rasher: It would certainly be worth asking. |
| 22:13:17 | rasher | Shouldn't that remove any trailing and leading whitespace from $string ? |
| 22:13:34 | linuxstb | Callie is "HOT!" according to the download page..... |
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| 22:14:05 | rasher | linuxstb: it'd probably have to be one of the engines that run on Linux (also for philosophical reasons - at least they're doing *something* good) |
| 22:14:29 | delYsid | linuxstb: she kinda is, but not as you might think :-) |
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| 22:14:47 | delYsid | its simply the biggest voice, I guess with the best sampling. |
| 22:14:57 | `sam` | if you're not doing actual text-to-speech processing on rockbox, and instead just using the output .wav's or whatever, couldn't you just record your own voice and have somebody do that with every language? |
| 22:15:00 | linuxstb | rasher: I was just thinking of the practical advantage of it running on Linux. |
| 22:15:14 | linuxstb | delYsid: Yes, thanks for the 125MB download... ;) |
| 22:15:23 | * | bluebrother just listened to the Allison voice sample and is quite impressed |
| 22:15:29 | rasher | `sam`: certainly, yes - it's quite a task though |
| 22:16:49 | rasher | (and the answer to my perl question - no, not if $string contains any whitespace other than the trailing and leading parts) |
| 22:16:52 | `sam` | well if you wanted clear voices and didn't want to pay to distribute them, it might be worth it |
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| 22:17:12 | linuxstb | `sam`: The problem is that it needs updating almost daily with new/changed strings. |
| 22:18:03 | rasher | `sam`: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7650 has a script (for Linux) that will aid in doing this |
| 22:18:14 | * | Llorean just dropped in to say he's not a huge fan of the Cepstral voices. |
| 22:18:20 | rasher | It technically works in cygwin as well, but there are filesystem issues |
| 22:18:38 | Llorean | I went to their demos, and they seem to pronounce the same word the exact same, independent of context. |
| 22:19:04 | bluebrother | hmm. Anyone familiar with linux, is this dependency list reasonable for a binary to distribute? http://www.pastebin.ca/678248 |
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| 22:19:30 | `sam` | linuxstb, what is there besides menu items that get voiced on rockbox? |
| 22:19:44 | rasher | bluebrother: are you running on Fedora? |
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| 22:19:55 | `sam` | pardon my ignorance, i haven't tried out the voice stuff yet |
| 22:19:59 | bluebrother | rasher: yes, but it's still a somewhat outdated FC5 |
| 22:20:23 | rasher | `sam`: Not much else, but that's still around 700 strings to speak, and they get changed/added rather frequently |
| 22:20:49 | `sam` | rasher, but a majority of them would remain the same wouldn't they? |
| 22:20:51 | rasher | Although half an hour per week or so should do it, once you have a full voice |
| 22:21:07 | linuxstb | `sam`: It includes the names of all the settings, plus all the options for each setting... |
| 22:21:27 | delYsid | rasher: but what about i18n :-) |
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| 22:21:40 | rasher | I did it at one point for Danish. It took me about 7-8 hours all in all. |
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| 22:22:19 | rasher | bluebrother: I'm on Debian - try giving me the binary and we'll see how it goes? |
| 22:22:27 | bluebrother | sure ;-) |
| 22:22:35 | rasher | It doesn't look too awful |
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| 22:23:26 | bluebrother | rasher: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/rbutilqt.bz2 |
| 22:23:58 | `sam` | rasher, oh ok, i just looked at that script you were talking about, so i guess human voices are an option if people are contributing them |
| 22:24:31 | `sam` | maybe i'll work on English-male-kentucky-accent :) |
| 22:24:32 | rasher | `sam`: Yeah - it's certainly possible |
| 22:24:48 | rasher | Though I suspect blind users will find a human voice too slow |
| 22:25:04 | rasher | Not all voice users are blind, of course |
| 22:25:29 | rasher | bluebrother: I'm missing libssl.so.6 |
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| 22:25:46 | `sam` | well i've been thinking about trying it out for at work, so i can just reach in my pocket and scroll around the menus and not have to take it out and look at it |
| 22:25:52 | bluebrother | hmm. Ok, as we don't need ssl I could try building Qt without ssl support. |
| 22:25:57 | `sam` | might be quicker than taking it out to read it |
| 22:26:20 | rasher | bluebrother: if we're not using it - might as well |
| 22:26:31 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Same here on my Debian install (missing libssl) |
| 22:27:07 | bluebrother | ok, I'll recompile and provide you a new binary. It'll just take a while ;-) |
| 22:27:25 | bluebrother | any other libs missing? |
| 22:27:31 | linuxstb | That's the only one listed. |
| 22:27:59 | linuxstb | Ah no, libcrypto.so.6 is also missing |
| 22:28:00 | rasher | bluebrother: libcrypto |
| 22:28:10 | linuxstb | But everything else is found for me. |
| 22:28:15 | rasher | Same here |
| 22:28:24 | linuxstb | rasher: Are you on Debian ? |
| 22:28:29 | rasher | Yep |
| 22:28:59 | rasher | I also have an ubuntu (gutsy) install I can try on |
| 22:29:09 | linuxstb | bluebrother: But that seems much more successful than the static wx builds... |
| 22:29:11 | rasher | But that's likely to be the same |
| 22:30:16 | rasher | desc: desc: repeat range from point A to B |
| 22:30:22 | rasher | Someone messed up a langfile.. |
| 22:30:41 | linuxstb | svn blame... |
| 22:31:07 | bluebrother | linuxstb: really? Was the static wx build that much of a pain? (never tried myself) |
| 22:31:24 | linuxstb | bluebrother: If never worked IIRC |
| 22:31:35 | bluebrother | oh. |
| 22:31:41 | linuxstb | (on Linux). It was fine on Mac OS X and win32 |
| 22:31:43 | rasher | And the blame goes to: n1s (in r14198) |
| 22:31:59 | bluebrother | how about "svn praise"? ;-) |
| 22:32:00 | rasher | And of course a lot of files follows that |
| 22:32:38 | bluebrother | hmm. What's the xshape extension for? |
| 22:32:51 | rasher | Non-rectangular windows I believe |
| 22:33:02 | bluebrother | ok. I don't think we need this. |
| 22:33:02 | rasher | Not quite sure though |
| 22:33:45 | bluebrother | and what's xfixes for? |
| 22:34:58 | rasher | "The extension makes changes to many areas of the protocol, but has the single design consideration: "resolving issues raised by application interaction with core protocol mechanisms that cannot be adequately worked around on the client side of the wire." (version 2 proposal) It is designed such that the client and server can always negotiate down to the latest version supported by both." |
| 22:35:19 | rasher | Probably a good idea to keep |
| 22:35:33 | rasher | (and likely supported by most modern distros) |
| 22:36:09 | bluebrother | ./configure -prefix /usr/local/qt4.3.1-static/ -release -static -fast -no-xinerama -no-xrandr -no-tabled -no-openssl -no-xshape -no-xcursor |
| 22:36:26 | bluebrother | that's my current configuration line for Qt −− anything I shouldn't disable? |
| 22:36:41 | rasher | I wonder what leaving out xrandr does |
| 22:36:55 | rasher | And xinerama.. well, we'll see when the bugreports comee |
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| 22:37:11 | bluebrother | create weird effects once you use randr to change the display setup? |
| 22:37:22 | * | bluebrother uses mergedfb |
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| 22:41:42 | bluebrother | ah: designer needs xshape for drag'n'drop support |
| 22:41:46 | ender` | xinerama is used for multiple monitor support |
| 22:42:09 | bluebrother | ender`: yeps, but what's the difference if rbutilqt doesn't support xinerama? |
| 22:42:46 | ender` | i *think* there might be problems if you try running it on a secondary monitor |
| 22:43:00 | bluebrother | hmm. Let's just try it ... |
| 22:43:10 | rasher | That's my best bet as well, but we'll see. It shouldn't be a huge hassle to turn it on |
| 22:43:12 | ender` | (i know that without xinerama, window managers will maximize windows across both) |
| 22:43:17 | bluebrother | too bad my second monitor uses mergedfb instead ;-) |
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| 22:50:40 | bluebrother | rasher: what's the current openssl version on debian? |
| 22:52:13 | rasher | bluebrother: 0.9.8 |
| 22:53:01 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I've just tried rbutilqt on the Mac for the first time, and have some comments... |
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| 22:53:37 | bluebrother | hmm. I have 0.9.8a here ... which holds libcrypto.so.6 |
| 22:53:53 | bluebrother | linuxstb: I'm really interested ... |
| 22:54:38 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Firstly, there were lots of messages about "mount points" - I'm not sure the average user will understand that term. But I couldn't even find my ipod - the list of folders presented didn't include /Volumes (where all disks are automounted in Mac OS X).. |
| 22:54:53 | rasher | bluebrother: sounds like different soname policies - I have libcrypto.so.0.9.8 |
| 22:55:16 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I typed in the mount point manually, but then got an error because I didn't include the trailing slash - i.e. "/Volumes/Name" didn't work, but "/Volumes/Name/" did. |
| 22:55:32 | bluebrother | rasher: I have libcrypto.so.0.9.8 too −− so.6 links to that |
| 22:55:41 | rasher | bluebrother: strangeness |
| 22:56:02 | linuxstb | bluebrother: The bootloader install for my ipod worked, but the final message in the progress box was "Creating installation log". There was no "Bootloader installed successfully." message or similar. |
| 22:56:07 | bluebrother | linuxstb: do you think it would be a good idea to start browsing in /Volumes and show that as top folder? |
| 22:56:12 | rasher | bluebrother: Probably something that OpenSSL ships, but Debian strips it because it doesn't follow policy (guessing) |
| 22:56:56 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Also, the ipod bootloader install requires a complex sequence of killing itunes (which normally starts automatically), unmounting the FAT32 partition, installing the bootloader, remounting the FAT32 partition, installing Rockbox, then ejecting the ipod... |
| 22:57:30 | linuxstb | (which rbutil doesn't guide the user through, or do any of those mount/unmount/eject steps) |
| 22:57:54 | linuxstb | But apart from that, everything seemed to work very nicely... |
| 22:58:03 | bluebrother | sounds pretty nice ;-) |
| 22:58:24 | bluebrother | did the wx version do this itunes killing / unmounting etc steps? |
| 22:58:30 | linuxstb | No. |
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| 22:59:00 | linuxstb | But the current "manual" install using ipodpatcher guides the user through the steps. So currently it's easier for a user to use the manual and ipodpatcher than to guess what rbutil is expecting to the user to do. |
| 22:59:08 | bluebrother | ok, so we're at least not worse than before ;-) |
| 22:59:12 | rasher | if rbutilqt is to be included in that ipod magazine cover-cd, this should probably see some sort of solution |
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| 22:59:36 | linuxstb | rasher: I think we're too late for that - LinusN mentioned that the deadline was "tomorrow" (that was a few days ago) |
| 22:59:44 | rasher | Ah, okay |
| 22:59:54 | bluebrother | rasher: didn't they need it by today anyway? As far as I spoke with LinusN we came to the conclusion that it might be better to use the wx version for now |
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| 23:00:20 | rasher | I didn't know that |
| 23:00:24 | bluebrother | linuxstb: do you know when this magazine issue is scheduled for release? |
| 23:00:32 | saratoga | linuxstb: i compared the output from your parser to libasf and its identical for those files i had that didn't work at high bitrates |
| 23:00:37 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Regarding the mount point, we could probably parse the output of the "mount" command, and look for where the device detected by ipodpatcher has been mounted. |
| 23:00:46 | bluebrother | it would be nice to have a fixed qt version around once it gets sold ;) |
| 23:01:35 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I've no idea, but I would expect it to be at least a few weeks after their deadline. |
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| 23:01:37 | bluebrother | linuxstb: hmm, it's done similar on linux −− does the mac have /proc/mounts? |
| 23:01:47 | linuxstb | Nope, no /proc... |
| 23:02:31 | bluebrother | ok. Anything similar? |
| 23:02:47 | linuxstb | Not that I've seen. |
| 23:02:56 | bluebrother | hmpf :( |
| 23:03:19 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:03:19 | saratoga | i've now synced that old test program that decodes the files correctly, and have been able to rule out every function except wma_decode_superframe_frame and wma_decode_superframe_init |
| 23:03:48 | rasher | bluebrother: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2006-11/thread00002-0.html tells you not much at all |
| 23:03:48 | saratoga | i don't really understand how you came up with what you did for those functions though |
| 23:04:05 | saratoga | it seems significantly different then the ffmpeg way, and i'm not understanding the logic |
| 23:04:56 | linuxstb | saratoga: IIRC, I just moved the loop from wmadeci.c into wma.c - but I'm not ruling out that I did something foolish... |
| 23:05:11 | linuxstb | SVN should have the details of that commit... |
| 23:05:19 | saratoga | yes i've looked through it in detail |
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| 23:05:41 | saratoga | i suspect that occasionally it gets the offset for the frame slightly wrong |
| 23:05:54 | bluebrother | linuxstb: how does the output of "mount" look on osx? Is it the same format as on linux? |
| 23:06:00 | linuxstb | saratoga: Have you tried reverting that change? |
| 23:06:08 | linuxstb | bluebrother: One moment, and I'll pastebin it |
| 23:06:10 | saratoga | at least, the result we get is that all attempts to decode VLCs return nonsense |
| 23:06:31 | saratoga | linuxstb: only in my test driver, not in rockbox |
| 23:06:38 | saratoga | how difficult do you think that would be? |
| 23:07:25 | rasher | There has got to be some sort of POSIX interface to get mounted volumes... |
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| 23:08:29 | saratoga | interestingly, after 1-2 superframes, it seems to reset and everything will work normally for a while |
| 23:08:50 | saratoga | my assumption is that something goes wrong in wma_decode_superframe_frame, and gets fixed by the next call to wma_decode_superframe_init |
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| 23:09:47 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: http://www.pastebin.ca/678319 (my ipod is /dev/disk1s2) |
| 23:10:23 | linuxstb_ | ipodpatcher will identify the ipod as /dev/disk1 - that's the whole-disk device. s2 is the second partition |
| 23:10:42 | bluebrother | ok, thanks |
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| 23:13:55 | bluebrother | ah, and do you really need to unmount the Ipod before installing the bootloader? Shouldn't this work with a mounted Ipod too? |
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| 23:14:43 | linuxstb_ | It won't work - you can't write to a raw disk device on Mac OS X if one of the partitions is mounted. |
| 23:15:01 | bluebrother | ah, so that's different to linux iiuc |
| 23:15:15 | linuxstb_ | Yep. |
| 23:15:24 | linuxstb_ | But probably the correct behaviour... |
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| 23:16:49 | linuxstb_ | Ah, seems there's a system "unmount" function - int unmount(const char *dir, int flags); |
| 23:17:14 | linuxstb_ | I'll see if I can add that into ipodpatcher, and if it works there, you can port it to rbutil. |
| 23:18:17 | linuxstb_ | Hmm, it needs the dir, not the device... |
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| 23:20:15 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: Seems there's a function to return an array of all mounted filesystems... |
| 23:20:53 | rasher | It would greatly surprise me if there wasn't |
| 23:21:45 | * | linuxstb_ didn't want to be drawn into Mac OS X development, but seems he's the only dev foolish enough to admit to owning a Mac... |
| 23:22:45 | * | bluebrother should get a job, earn money and buy a mac mini ... |
| 23:23:05 | rasher | well umount(const char *target[, int flags]) exists on linux as well. It's not in posix though, strangely |
| 23:23:20 | rasher | the latter called umount2 |
| 23:23:20 | linuxstb_ | Does that take a device or the mount point? |
| 23:23:26 | rasher | mount point |
| 23:23:37 | rasher | (since they can be mounted multiple places) |
| 23:23:39 | linuxstb_ | What about getmntinfo ? |
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| 23:24:41 | linuxstb_ | Doesn't seem to exist.. |
| 23:24:42 | rasher | linuxstb: No such thing, I think |
| 23:25:07 | rasher | Odd, that |
| 23:25:53 | rasher | I guess /proc/mount is considered the equivalent :\ |
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| 23:29:23 | rasher | Gem from "man 2 statfs": Nobody knows what f_fsid is supposed to contain (but see below). |
| 23:29:50 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: BTW, I guess we'll need to do the same for sansapatcher and the Sansa bootloader install... |
| 23:30:44 | rasher | There really doesn't seem to be anything like getmntinfo |
| 23:32:53 | bluebrother | linuxstb_: ok, fetching mountpoint based on output of mount: http://www.pastebin.ca/678338 |
| 23:33:07 | rasher | bluebrother: That's really nasty :\ |
| 23:33:08 | bluebrother | I disabled the rockbox-info.txt detection |
| 23:33:25 | bluebrother | rasher: yes, but it works at least on my linux box. |
| 23:34:34 | rasher | why not use getmntinfo() on os x? |
| 23:35:03 | rasher | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/getmntinfo.3.html |
| 23:35:15 | rasher | Might work on FreeBSD also |
| 23:36:29 | bluebrother | ah: The getmntinfo() function first appeared in 4.4BSD. |
| 23:36:51 | rasher | Pity nothing like it seems to exist in Linux |
| 23:37:14 | bluebrother | seems VirtualBox supports BSD ... I need more disk space. |
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| 23:39:09 | * | bluebrother wonders if there is any bsd live cd around that includes development tools |
| 23:39:19 | rasher | bluebrother: perhaps getmntent and friends? (on linux) |
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| 23:39:56 | n1s | rasher: thanks for fixing that lang typo :-) |
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| 23:42:24 | bluebrother | hmm, is there /etc/mtab on osx? |
| 23:42:46 | rasher | bluebrother: I guess we want something like FILE* f = setmntent("/etc/mtab", "r"); getmntent(f) and then some horribleness then |
| 23:43:34 | bluebrother | rasher: I'm not sure if this is better than the current /proc/mounts parsing |
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| 23:44:35 | rasher | bluebrother: Why not? It's using specified interfaces, and we get the parsing for free - plus we don't have to worry about differing layouts of the file |
| 23:45:17 | qwm | scorche: level 99 is a bitch too. |
| 23:45:34 | rasher | If a distro changes the look of /etc/mtab for some reason, they'll in all likelyhood change getmntent as well, so it should Just Work[tm] (famous last words) |
| 23:47:17 | Soap | <linuxstb> What do you mean by "eject"? "safely disconnect"? |
| 23:47:23 | Soap | Yes, safely disconnect. |
| 23:47:53 | Soap | 2:45 later it's still working (though I don't think that was ever a question) Windows didn't freak. |
| 23:48:07 | rasher | bluebrother: As far as I can tell, getmntent() and friends is the proper way to do it on Linux |
| 23:49:43 | rasher | bluebrother: http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=getmntent |
| 23:50:18 | rasher | Could be some useful examples lurking in those results |
| 23:50:22 | jhMikeS | Soap: are you seeing my PM? |
| 23:50:29 | bluebrother | rasher: already playing around with it ;-) |
| 23:51:08 | rasher | Alrighty |
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| 23:51:23 | rasher | Did you ever build a new static binary? |
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| 23:52:26 | bluebrother | no, Qt build is still running −− I had the windows binary running earlier so I started the linux one just a while ago |
| 23:52:40 | bluebrother | I'll build one once Qt is finished |
| 23:53:13 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: getmntinfo works very nicely to get the mount point, but it seems the unmount function won't - "operation not permitted"... |
| 23:53:53 | linuxstb_ | So it may be necessary to run the external "diskutil" program - "diskutil unmount /mount/point" |
| 23:54:08 | rasher | Or launch ipodpatcher with superuser privs? |
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| 23:54:37 | rasher | I assume you need that to write to the disk anyway? |
| 23:54:44 | linuxstb_ | No. |
| 23:54:59 | rasher | Ah. |
| 23:55:37 | linuxstb_ | Seems the disk device is owned by "dave", but it was mounted by root, not "dave", so I can't unmount it... |
| 23:55:50 | rasher | Perplexing |
| 23:55:58 | rasher | You'd have thought it the other way round |
| 23:56:06 | linuxstb_ | Indeed. |
| 23:57:36 | rasher | and diskutil can magically unmount it anyway? |
| 23:57:38 | linuxstb_ | OK, so as a test I ran ipodpatcher as root, the unmount worked, but then Mac OS X popped up a window complaining I didn't cleanly unmount... |
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| 23:58:12 | linuxstb_ | I think the problem is Apple have added extra layers of stuff on top of basic BSD - so it's those layers complaining they've been bypassed... |
| 23:58:33 | linuxstb_ | rasher: Yes, diskutil can do it somehow... |
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