00:00:04 | rasher | I suppose there's a way to do the same? Is diskutil perhaps opensource? |
00:00:41 | rasher | I'm less impressed by the "full power of UNIX!" part of OS X by the minute.. |
00:00:52 | | Quit seablue ("life, death, life, death") |
00:01:40 | linuxstb_ | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/File_Manager/Reference/reference.html |
00:02:23 | * | linuxstb_ sighs |
00:02:25 | rasher | .. and ipodpatcher just grew to thrice the size? |
00:02:31 | linuxstb_ | Seems there's this function - http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/File_Manager/Reference/reference.html#//apple_ref/c/func/FSUnmountVolumeSync |
00:02:45 | linuxstb_ | But it takes a "volume reference number" to unmount... |
00:02:47 | rasher | Or is this ObjectiveC crap? |
00:03:14 | rasher | Or whatever the name is |
00:03:20 | linuxstb_ | So I now need to unlearn the BSD functions and learn the Apple way... |
00:03:31 | linuxstb_ | I think Apple have moved to xcode, which is gcc-based. |
00:04:10 | rasher | Well, gcc supports Obj-C |
00:04:40 | rasher | linuxstb_: might be useful to hang on the the getmntinfo code for freebsd? |
00:07:46 | linuxstb_ | Well, it will be useful for rbutil. |
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00:11:16 | * | bluebrother has linux mountpoint resolve using getmntent working |
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00:15:55 | rasher | bluebrother: Neat - same functionality as parsing /proc/mounts? |
00:16:08 | bluebrother | yep, at least for rbutil |
00:17:14 | bluebrother | it's even a tiny bit shorter: http://www.pastebin.ca/678374 |
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00:20:44 | rasher | Seems much nicer too |
00:21:18 | * | linuxstb_ thinks he will just use system to call diskutil instead... |
00:21:59 | * | bluebrother is surprised qt's make install builds designer −− I left it out on purpose :/ |
00:23:43 | bluebrother | linuxstb_, rasher: new rbutilqt linux binary available http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/ |
00:24:14 | bluebrother | ldd output gotten quite a bit shorter ;-) |
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00:32:19 | bluebrother | hmm. The $Revision$ string used for the version is only updated on changes to that file. Is there any known possibility to get always the most recent revision id? |
00:32:29 | bluebrother | i.e. without calling external tools like svnversion? |
00:33:07 | rasher | bluebrother: That runs |
00:33:13 | bluebrother | cool :) |
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00:33:55 | * | bluebrother does the static build dance |
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00:36:23 | Soap | so I don't need to compile it? |
00:36:38 | bluebrother | Soap: nope :) |
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00:37:18 | Soap | I have lord-only-knows how many megs of QT libraries I installed for QTScrobbler, and now you're telling me I can't reuse them!@ |
00:37:22 | Soap | ;) |
00:37:36 | HidalgoDC | hey can someone help me |
00:37:51 | bluebrother | well, you can if you want to. Just make yourself a dynamic build. |
00:38:02 | bluebrother | and I guess distro packages will always be dynamic |
00:38:12 | bluebrother | HidalgoDC: not until we know your problem |
00:38:14 | HidalgoDC | how, when i connect my ipod to my computer, i can do that my ipod dont run the usb mode, but only the rockbox mode? |
00:38:15 | HidalgoDC | .. |
00:38:30 | Soap | press and hold "Menu" while inserting the USB cable. |
00:38:35 | bluebrother | you mean not rebooting to disc mode but charge only? |
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00:38:56 | bluebrother | well, Soap already gave the solution for that ;-) |
00:39:33 | HidalgoDC | thx:) |
00:40:02 | Soap | for a short while longer, HidalgoDC, you might need to hold the "Menu" button for 10+ seconds to prevent rebooting, but a fix for that issue is shortly comming, and after the fix you will only need to hold the "Menu" button while actually inserting the cable. |
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00:41:58 | HidalgoDC | thx |
00:42:01 | HidalgoDC | ;) |
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00:56:58 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: I've just added the automatic unmount to ipodpatcher (the easy way - system("diskutil ...")). rbutilqt will now also do it, I'm just testing now. |
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00:58:22 | JdGordon | servers still not fixed? |
00:58:55 | linuxstb_ | No sign of any Swedes all day... |
00:59:59 | JdGordon | how rude :p |
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01:00:35 | Nico_P | linuxstb_, bluebrother: an "eject device" button in rbutilqt would be nice :) |
01:01:18 | * | Nico_P sees the commit msg and realizes it's not exactly the same thing |
01:01:59 | `sam` | is there anybody working on getting the broadcom video processor to work on the ipod video? |
01:02:22 | Nico_P | `sam`: no, because noone knows anything about it AFAIK |
01:02:23 | bluebrother | `sam`: no |
01:02:44 | `sam` | i wonder if the ipodlinux people have done anything with it |
01:02:48 | bluebrother | linuxstb_: wouldn't it be good to mount the Ipod after bootloader installation again? |
01:03:04 | linuxstb_ | For some mysterious reason, that happens automatically... |
01:03:14 | bluebrother | oh? Interesting |
01:03:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
01:03:20 | linuxstb_ | It seems to take about 10-15 seconds, but then it appears again. |
01:03:31 | rasher | Apple moment. Weird stuff just happens. |
01:03:35 | * | linuxstb_ shrugs |
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01:07:18 | saratoga3 | is there some easy way for a codec to dump info to the disk? |
01:07:22 | saratoga3 | from the UI sim that is |
01:07:34 | saratoga3 | I can DEBUGF, but thats clumsy for large datasets |
01:08:00 | linuxstb_ | If you're build a sim for a recording target, you have the file i/o functions in the codec api |
01:08:17 | linuxstb_ | Ah, but probably not on the sim... |
01:08:47 | linuxstb_ | You could edit apps/codecs.[ch] and enable the recording part of the api |
01:09:47 | linuxstb_ | (remove the && !defined(SIMULATOR)) |
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01:13:49 | yazan_ | hi all |
01:14:17 | yazan_ | is there any one from Germany |
01:14:45 | bluebrother | a few. |
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01:15:48 | yazan_ | that has experience with ROCK GIGA DRM MP3 player ? |
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01:16:34 | saratoga3 | do you mean the Gigabeat F? |
01:17:37 | yazan_ | it is from rok-musik.de |
01:17:43 | yazan_ | du you know it ? |
01:17:58 | yazan_ | is that Gigabeat ?? |
01:18:14 | Nimdae | so today i'm discovering features of rockbox i didn't know it had...and i've been using it for a long time |
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01:18:52 | saratoga3 | rok-musik.de isn't a website for me |
01:19:15 | jah | hey, anyone can give a hand to a rockbox newbie? |
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01:20:14 | yazan_ | yes, i think this company hat some problems there website dosn't work |
01:20:36 | Soap | ask a question jah, and we'll do our best. |
01:21:00 | Soap | yazan_: if it is not one of the players listed on the frontpage of www.rockbox.org, Rockbox will not work on it. |
01:21:06 | jah | cool, how long am i supposed to wait for it to build the database? |
01:21:19 | jah | e200 btw |
01:21:24 | yazan_ | this was my question |
01:22:12 | saratoga3 | jah: does a couple thousands for me in a couple seconds |
01:22:17 | Soap | ahh, so you can't feel the drive spinning, jah. In the menu - has the disk activity indicator icon in the status bar gone off for a few? |
01:22:35 | Soap | (assuming you are using a theme which doesn't hide the status bar) |
01:22:35 | Nimdae | e200 is flash isn't it? |
01:23:13 | jah | cant see any indicator blinking |
01:23:20 | Nimdae | it's probably done then |
01:23:36 | jah | so why is it telling me to wait then? |
01:23:53 | Nimdae | restart it and see if it still won't let you use it |
01:24:57 | jah | still telling me the database isnt ready |
01:26:56 | Nimdae | sec, gonna set up the db on my ipod and see what happens |
01:27:06 | saratoga3 | i'd guess you have some corrupted file tags somewhere that are gumming it up |
01:27:20 | jah | ugh, so what can i do? |
01:27:34 | Nimdae | building database gives me a status of the build |
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01:27:49 | Nimdae | when you go to database, does it ask you to build it? |
01:27:55 | jah | yup |
01:28:01 | Nimdae | well...build it |
01:28:06 | jah | i am |
01:28:13 | jah | and then it gets stuck |
01:28:22 | Nimdae | does it show a status? |
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01:28:30 | saratoga3 | jah: you need to figure out which file has the bad tags, I've got no idea how to do that though |
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01:28:46 | jah | :/ |
01:28:54 | jah | damn |
01:29:18 | jah | it says "building database...." |
01:29:43 | Nimdae | that's it? |
01:29:52 | jah | and gives a number... |
01:30:06 | Nimdae | and it doesn't count up? |
01:30:33 | jah | i does, and after its done it stays in the same mode |
01:31:02 | jah | i mean it counts to a number and that's it |
01:31:23 | Nimdae | yeah, i'm in agreement with saratoga3 then |
01:31:32 | jah | amn |
01:31:40 | jah | have no idea where to start |
01:31:56 | Nimdae | i wouldn't know either :( |
01:32:04 | jah | thanks anyway |
01:32:09 | RudMan_ | the number is probably the number of the file that is bad. So do a directory listing and see what file matches that number |
01:32:33 | Nimdae | RudMan_: i thought of that, but the number doesn't increment by 1 on my ipod |
01:32:42 | Nimdae | it varies between 3 and 5 at a time |
01:32:55 | jah | t stops at 706 |
01:33:16 | RudMan_ | jah: delete all files after 700 |
01:33:20 | Nimdae | plus, without knowing the code, i couldn't say how it searches the dir list |
01:33:36 | RudMan_ | then try it again. if it works then delete the first 700 and load the 2nd 700 |
01:33:50 | RudMan_ | basically do a binary search until you narrow it down to the bad file |
01:33:55 | jah | how? it's sorted by dirs in the drive |
01:33:59 | RudMan_ | a bit time incentive |
01:34:33 | Nimdae | jah: do it this way, take half of the songs off, then build...if it succeeds, do the other half, if it fails, half it down again |
01:34:36 | jah | how to i make the list? each album is in a diffrent dir |
01:34:36 | Soap | and you have rebooted your player since building the database? |
01:34:57 | Nimdae | takes a long time but if you find the file, you can fix it, and if it doesn't look wrong, it might be a sign of a bug in rockbox and you can report it ;) |
01:35:02 | jah | i waited for a message "build done" or smth |
01:35:10 | Soap | and have you rebooted jah? |
01:35:19 | jah | yup |
01:35:23 | Nimdae | Soap: yeah, we tried that, heh |
01:35:37 | Nimdae | wow, i didn't think i had 4500 files on here |
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01:37:53 | Nimdae | neat |
01:37:58 | Nimdae | i just caused rockbox to crash |
01:38:06 | Nimdae | Data abort at 0004C440 |
01:39:52 | Nimdae | tried to reproduce it and it didn't happen |
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01:58:49 | webguest55 | Hi |
01:58:53 | webguest55 | Hi |
01:59:11 | webguest55 | Where can I find a list of rockbox new features for iPod Gen 3 |
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01:59:41 | webguest55 | Anyone here? |
02:00 |
02:00:32 | webguest55 | Hello? |
02:01:12 | webguest55 | At least one person can awnser my question? |
02:01:29 | linuxstb_ | Maybe here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
02:01:49 | linuxstb_ | But there are no specific lists for specific mp3 players - Rockbox is the same on them all. |
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02:02:28 | stripwax_ | webguest55 - 'new features'? |
02:03:01 | stripwax_ | webguest33 - this help? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
02:03:24 | thegeek | I think he means "new features" compared to the original fw |
02:03:47 | stripwax_ | in the manual, i guess |
02:04:20 | stripwax_ | more audio formats, gapless playback, better battery life probably being the most obvious 'new features'. |
02:05:13 | stripwax_ | and games, and maybe video playback too? not sure about 3rd gen. |
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02:10:58 | ddalton | has anyone taken a look at p7682? |
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02:18:01 | Nimdae | what's p7682? |
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02:18:52 | Nimdae | google tells me it's a potassium bicarbonate insect cell culture |
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02:25:47 | saratoga3 | ddalton: you might have better luck earlier in the day when people in Europe are still awake |
02:29:01 | * | amiconn returns |
02:29:29 | amiconn | rasher: Progress output is somewhat broken in that perl now seems to hold back the line in its buffer |
02:29:40 | amiconn | (on cygwin) |
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02:37:46 | stripwax_ | Nimdae - hehe. it's a link to a patch number on the flyspray tracker for rockbox. hope you were joking |
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02:41:19 | Nimdae | well..it seems my previous crash broke my font |
02:41:23 | Nimdae | good thing i keep backups! |
02:42:25 | Nimdae | ok, now this is freaking weird |
02:42:32 | Nimdae | how did my fonts dir get renamed to nonts? |
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02:47:19 | ddalton | ok if the quickscreen changes a value of an option is it automatically changed? |
02:47:31 | ddalton | so as soon as the button is pressed? |
02:47:38 | ddalton | for example left? |
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02:49:01 | ddalton | saratoga3: When would that be? it is 11 am here. |
02:50:15 | amiconn | rasher: fixed. |
02:51:29 | saratoga3 | ddalton: the IRC logs are in some european time I think |
02:51:43 | saratoga3 | and its 3 AM according to them |
02:52:29 | saratoga3 | linuxstb: awake? |
02:52:54 | ddalton | so what at 9 pm here? in about 8 hours? |
02:53:48 | ddalton | is linuxstb on european? |
02:53:49 | ddalton | time? |
02:54:24 | ddalton | aren't there americans that would be a wake or are they on the same time? |
02:54:28 | ddalton | who is a wake now? |
02:54:42 | `sam` | i'm awake, but i don't know anything |
02:54:56 | ddalton | where are you from? America? |
02:55:28 | `sam` | ddalton, yes |
02:55:46 | ddalton | do you know about the quick screen? |
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02:56:21 | `sam` | no, what is it? |
02:57:03 | ddalton | it is a quick way to change the repeat, show files and shuffle settings. |
02:57:06 | ddalton | can you code? |
02:57:44 | JdGordon | the irc logs are in gmt |
02:57:58 | ddalton | gmt what? |
02:58:01 | `sam` | i know a little c, but i'm new to rockbox, and haven't done any developing on it |
02:58:02 | JdGordon | +0 |
02:58:11 | BigBambi | It is 3 am Central Europe (France, Sweden etc) and 2 am UK time at the moment |
02:58:15 | ddalton | are ok |
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02:58:27 | ddalton | so I have to wait about 10 hours? |
02:58:40 | BigBambi | 7/8 hrs |
02:59:50 | BigBambi | JdGordon: The IRC logs are in Central European Time, which is currently GMT + 2 |
03:00 |
03:00:05 | BigBambi | Because of summer time |
03:00:07 | JdGordon | you sure? |
03:00:17 | JdGordon | I thought the whole site (irc included was gmt+0 |
03:00:29 | linuxstb_ | They are. It's currently 2am summer time in the UK (GMT+1). |
03:00:32 | BigBambi | They say it is currently 3 am, which is what it is where I am (France) and we are currently GMT+2 |
03:00:50 | `sam` | ddalton, linuxstb is here now, he might know what you're talking about |
03:00:51 | BigBambi | In winter we are GMT+1 and UK is GMT |
03:01:16 | ddalton | linuxstb: your up at 2 am? |
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03:01:23 | BigBambi | I'm up at 3am :) |
03:01:48 | BigBambi | But I am going to bed. Night all |
03:01:57 | ddalton | good idea! |
03:02:26 | * | ddalton Wouldn't like to be on irc at 3 am! |
03:03:21 | linuxstb_ | It's a dangerous place at this time... |
03:03:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
03:03:38 | ddalton | why? |
03:04:06 | linuxstb_ | Just a joke... |
03:04:16 | webguest45 | Does anyone know if a Rockboxed 5g ipod will still playback via a Tomtom? |
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03:05:06 | ddalton | linuxstb: Could you take a look at p7682 and tell me what you think? |
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03:07:24 | ddalton | linuxstb: You there? |
03:07:55 | linuxstb_ | I'm not the best person to comment on voice things - I've never used it as a user, or done anything with it as a dev. |
03:08:30 | XavierGr | well it is 4 am and I am still in rockbox irc. Hopefully I will live till tomorrow :P |
03:08:40 | ddalton | since I coded it is pretty basic. It just talks the value of stuff and says one string from english.lang. |
03:08:48 | ddalton | but anyway I will try later |
03:09:27 | ddalton | who here knows about voice? |
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03:10:40 | JdGordon | ddalton: well your probably out of luck seen as the amount of devs here atm.. |
03:11:12 | ddalton | JdGordon: do you know about voice? |
03:11:26 | JdGordon | i tend to break it more than anything... so no |
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03:12:33 | ddalton | how did you do that menu thing then? |
03:12:49 | ddalton | didn't you do the conversion to the root menu? |
03:13:03 | JdGordon | guilty as charged |
03:13:38 | * | JdGordon goned |
03:14:50 | chrisjs169 | is there a reason why there's now at least three tasks in flyspray that all fix the Sansa LCD problem? |
03:15:46 | chrisjs169 | 7692, 7654, and 7438 |
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03:19:47 | saratoga3 | chrisjs169: the other two are work arounds, but 7692 claims to be a real fix |
03:19:53 | saratoga3 | haven't tried it though |
03:20:00 | chrisjs169 | saratoga3, ok |
03:23:21 | sasukee | what's a recomended theme which has Album Art ability? |
03:25:24 | saratoga3 | there are no recommended anythings with album art, since its not officially supported yet |
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03:29:01 | chrisjs169 | i need new earbuds |
03:29:03 | chrisjs169 | again |
03:29:49 | webguest77 | hi i have a question i have ipodlinux and rockbox on my ipod but for some reason i can't use rockbox anymore. i put linux on it because i heard that i could still use rockbox. can anyone please tell me hoe to do that? |
03:30:02 | webguest77 | i have a 30gb video ipod. |
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03:32:02 | webguest77 | please help? |
03:32:36 | chrisjs169 | it's been a fairly inactive night - i don't have an ipod, but i'll see if I can find some info |
03:33:40 | webguest77 | ok thank you! |
03:33:44 | webguest77 | :) |
03:34:12 | chrisjs169 | http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 seems to mention booting Rockbox as well |
03:35:45 | webguest77 | oh i see thank you!! |
03:37:02 | chrisjs169 | there's some more info at http://www.ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 as well |
03:37:03 | chrisjs169 | no problem |
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03:50:27 | JdGordon | do any sansa users here have the problem with the magic disaprearing radio in te main menu? |
03:51:58 | chrisjs169 | i don't often look at the main menu, but i haven't noticed it disaprear |
03:53:05 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: if you have some time, can you try reproducing 7515 please? |
03:53:52 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon, all I'm doing at the moment is helping my cousin start a photography website, so I can test it right now |
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03:54:42 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon, so just initialize the database and restart? |
03:56:07 | JdGordon | apparently... i just tried it on my dads sansa (mine doesnt have radio), and it works |
03:56:09 | JdGordon | so i dunno |
03:56:27 | chrisjs169 | radio doesn't disappear on mine |
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04:26:26 | dave_ | Does anyone have a Sansa with an micro sd card |
04:26:48 | JdGordon | me |
04:26:53 | dave_ | How do you mount it with linux? |
04:27:06 | dave_ | I see it on my mac..and windows but not linux |
04:27:12 | JdGordon | usually with my sd card reader... |
04:27:20 | JdGordon | gimme a sec to plug it in... |
04:27:27 | dave_ | huh |
04:27:30 | dave_ | sd card reader? |
04:27:39 | dave_ | I did a fdisk -l and it doesnt show on my sansa |
04:29:00 | JdGordon | they come up as 2 seperate disks on my box |
04:29:10 | dave_ | really on the linux box it shows up as 2 different disks? |
04:29:14 | JdGordon | sdb1 and sdb2 are the sansa... sdc1 is the sd card |
04:29:15 | dave_ | when you do a fdisk -l? |
04:29:29 | dave_ | let me eject device and try again |
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04:35:47 | dave_ | ls |
04:37:18 | dave_ | Does anyone know rules for udev for it :) |
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04:52:30 | dave_ | hey do you need a special kernel compile for Micro SD cards? |
04:52:41 | dave_ | my kernel for some reason doesnt see it (for Sansa) |
04:52:55 | JdGordon | does the sansa show up? |
04:53:01 | dave_ | ya |
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04:53:06 | JdGordon | then you shuold be ok |
04:53:06 | dave_ | The Sansa e280 8 gig shows up |
04:53:08 | dave_ | hm |
04:53:12 | JdGordon | you need FAT support |
04:53:14 | dave_ | I ran dmesg.. it doesnt appear. |
04:53:25 | dave_ | just the 8 gig partition |
04:53:39 | dave_ | Can you show me the output of lsusb? |
04:53:52 | JdGordon | not atm, im back in windows |
04:53:55 | dave_ | oh |
04:53:56 | dave_ | darn |
04:54:06 | dave_ | i know its not my mp3 player cuz mac/windows can see it fine :S |
04:55:32 | dave_ | JD: What kernel are you running on? |
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04:58:14 | JdGordon | 2.6.21-amd64 i tihnk |
04:58:32 | dave_ | -hmm |
04:58:50 | dave_ | I may be missing some stuff there's some kernel stuff regarding san disk storage in ther.. |
04:59:17 | JdGordon | FAT16 filesystem maybe? although it should still show up without that |
04:59:37 | dave_ | ya dmesg doesnt even see it. |
04:59:43 | JdGordon | wierd :p |
04:59:54 | JdGordon | you got a micro->regular convertor and a sd reader? |
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05:00:06 | dave_ | no |
05:00:09 | dave_ | im using the sansa device.. |
05:00:15 | JdGordon | :( |
05:00:35 | dave_ | I'm using gentoo might as well emerge it ;) |
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05:00:46 | dave_ | the latest kernel.. and see if compiling some new options fix it |
05:02:08 | saratoga | i really hate code that uses negative array indexes in c |
05:02:12 | saratoga | stupid ffmpeg |
05:02:24 | JdGordon | negative array indexes? |
05:02:30 | JdGordon | since when was that legal? |
05:02:37 | saratoga | gcc doesn't complain |
05:02:45 | saratoga | the wma codec does tons of it |
05:02:48 | saratoga | and i'm about to add more |
05:03:11 | dave_ | I didnt even know you can use negative array indexes inc |
05:03:21 | JdGordon | hang on.. is that like perl where [-1] is the last item? or [-1] is 1 item before [0] ? |
05:03:28 | saratoga | -1 is before 0 |
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05:03:41 | saratoga | c just does *(array-1) in that case |
05:03:41 | JdGordon | holy cow... |
05:03:50 | dave_ | But C allows that syntax? |
05:03:57 | saratoga | it has no way to know |
05:04:01 | saratoga | theres no bounds checking in c |
05:04:04 | * | dave_ was either not taught that syntax or i forgot |
05:04:09 | dave_ | oh .. |
05:04:14 | saratoga | i'm sure they don't intend you to do it |
05:04:34 | JdGordon | I was definatly not tought you were alowd to do that! |
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05:04:51 | JdGordon | *(array-1) is fine though |
05:04:58 | JdGordon | array[-1] is just wrong ;p |
05:05:18 | saratoga | indeed |
05:06:17 | saratoga | that said, its a surprisingly neat way to handle look up tables |
05:09:03 | * | JdGordon needs to get some 4gb microSDHC cards :'( |
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05:11:49 | saratoga | sandisk really needs to hurry up with the 8GB ones |
05:11:56 | saratoga | i want a 16GB sansa basly |
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05:11:59 | saratoga | badly |
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05:27:46 | alienbiker99 | i want an 8 gb card |
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05:30:34 | saratoga | are builds not updating on the website? |
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05:37:58 | alienbiker99 | has there been any commits? |
05:38:21 | saratoga | yeah i just sent one in |
05:38:31 | saratoga | and my r number is 11 ahead of the most recent build |
05:42:13 | alienbiker99 | i guess the page isnt updating |
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05:49:10 | Soap | 8GB? I want a 64GB card. |
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05:56:55 | EnterUserName | i know this isnt the channel to ask but does anyone here know which kernel modules i need to get the Micro SD card to work in Sansa? |
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06:36:52 | * | JdGordon fed up with the bloody sansa OF! |
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08:37:05 | alienbiker99 | 4th gen ipod on woot for $100 |
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08:54:09 | RudMan | damn - can you run rockbox on that? |
08:55:24 | scorche | www.rockbox.org |
08:55:45 | scorche | (front page lists targets) |
08:56:16 | RudMan | cool...it does |
08:57:12 | RudMan | but I'm happy with my $49 Sansa so I'll pass |
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09:00:25 | alienbiker99 | haha, i bought a $50 sansa too |
09:02:33 | RudMan | got it from woot a couple of weeks ago |
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10:27:12 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Good morning. Are you going to remove rbutil-wx from SVN? Or are you leaving that decision to Domonoky? |
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10:37:04 | bluebrother | morning linuxstb. Haven't thought about that yet −− maybe release an updated Qt version first? |
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10:40:37 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Maybe, although I doubt we'll be updating the wx binaries again, so we don't need the source any more (it will always be in svn of course...). |
10:42:27 | linuxstb | How should I integrate my mount-point search in rbutil? I can't think of a reason why the user would need to choose it manually (for ipods, and probably sansa) - is it possible to make it read-only for some targets? |
10:43:21 | bluebrother | not yet. But we could make the mountpoint box readonly if autodetection was successful. |
10:43:58 | bluebrother | i.e. in configure.cpp:555 just add |
10:44:01 | linuxstb | Also, what do you think about adding an "eject" option? |
10:44:14 | bluebrother | ui.mountPoint->setReadOnly(true); |
10:44:44 | bluebrother | might be a nice addon through I'm not too sure if it's that much useful. |
10:44:52 | bluebrother | do we know how to eject on windows? |
10:45:09 | linuxstb | What about the mount-point detection itself? Where does that live? |
10:45:15 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I don't... |
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10:46:32 | bluebrother | it's in autodetection.cpp. detect() sets its value |
10:50:30 | linuxstb | I should implement resolveMountPoint() ? |
10:51:43 | * | bluebrother just notices he missed getMountpoints when using getmntent |
10:52:17 | bluebrother | you need getMountpoints for detection based on files (i.e. rockbox-info.txt and rbutil.log) |
10:52:39 | linuxstb | Shouldn't it call resolveMountPoint() first? |
10:52:47 | bluebrother | resolveMountpoint is then needed to resolve device -> path |
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10:53:01 | linuxstb | (for ipods and sansa) |
10:53:16 | bluebrother | well, if you detect an Ipod using ipodpatcher is doesn't need getMountpoints |
10:53:35 | amiconn | Do we have autodetection for archoses now? |
10:53:52 | bluebrother | maybe we should run ipodpatcher / sansapatcher first and then look after the files on the player |
10:53:53 | * | amiconn didn't try rbutil(qt) yet |
10:54:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: That's what I assumed you were doing. |
10:54:21 | bluebrother | amiconn: we can detect the build based on rockbox-info.txt (doesn't work to distinguish between x5 / x5v) |
10:54:48 | bluebrother | and rbutil also writes information to its own logfile rbutil.log, which is also used for detection |
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10:55:28 | bluebrother | linuxstb: well, Domonoky ported rockbox-info.txt detection. I simply added ipodpatcher / sansapatcher and wasn't considering if that should go first. |
10:55:30 | amiconn | I mean for first-time installation |
10:56:05 | bluebrother | amiconn: no, unfortunately not. AFAIU we need USB PIDs for this. |
10:56:26 | bluebrother | or is there a file on the archos players we could detect / md5sum / similar? |
10:56:42 | amiconn | Not necessarily, especially as they don't allow us to distinguish some archoses |
10:57:03 | amiconn | Archoses can be detected if they have an on-disk firmware file |
10:57:25 | amiconn | archos.mod in the root -> Player |
10:57:32 | bluebrother | so we can detect the brand to be archos but not the player? |
10:58:19 | amiconn | ajbrec.ajz in the root -> one of the other 5. Then we can check the header for the individual model (scramble.c or descamble.c tells how) |
10:58:43 | amiconn | For Ondios, there's another method even if no on-disk frmware is present |
10:59:09 | amiconn | If there's an ONDIOST.BIN in the root, it's an Ondio FM, ONDIOSP.BIN indicates Ondio SP |
10:59:36 | amiconn | These are the OF's settings files, and are *very* likely to be present, unless this Ondio was never really used with the OF |
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11:00:14 | bluebrother | so with Rockbox installed ... we don't have those .BIN files? |
11:00:25 | amiconn | No, but we have ajbrec.ajz |
11:00:31 | rasher | With Rockbox installed, we should have rockbox-info.txt? |
11:00:39 | bluebrother | rasher: yes. |
11:00:39 | rasher | Unless it's an old version |
11:00:43 | amiconn | (Unless rockbox is flashed - then the user may delete it) |
11:01:25 | bluebrother | well, I guess we can't detect every possible situation. Standard detection should be a good start. |
11:01:31 | linuxstb | bluebrother: The code will be something like this - http://pastebin.ca/678730 - but I'm not sure how to deal with QtString. Could you correct that function for me? |
11:03:18 | bluebrother | line 28 or 34? |
11:03:32 | linuxstb | Also, the "startswith" check won't work - devices have a name of the form /dev/disk1, so we wouldn't want to match /dev/disk10. But the "s2" is ipod-specific... |
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11:03:42 | bluebrother | ah, I see ... |
11:03:47 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Both if they're wrong... |
11:05:15 | linuxstb | And what would happen if the disk has multiple partitions, all mounted? |
11:05:38 | linuxstb | (could happen with IPL users on Linux for example - a FAT32 and ext2 partiton) |
11:07:18 | linuxstb | We should probably aim to do the same as Rockbox - detect the first FAT partition. |
11:07:18 | amiconn | The header checks for archos seem to be fairly simple |
11:07:27 | bluebrother | linuxstb: http://pastebin.ca/678734 |
11:07:48 | bluebrother | hmm, that's a good point. Might appear on linux as well. |
11:08:34 | bluebrother | can you find out the type using getmntinfo? |
11:08:44 | linuxstb | Maybe appending "s" to the device name, and using startsWith would work better... |
11:08:57 | linuxstb | Yes, I'm sure one of the fields contains filesystem type. |
11:09:12 | bluebrother | mtab has a field for this, so on linux we can use it. |
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11:09:26 | bluebrother | and iirc this needs to be "vfat" in all cases. |
11:10:19 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Thanks for the pastebin, I'll test it now. |
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11:13:01 | parafin | Nils Wallmenius (nls) == n1s here ? |
11:18:02 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Seems to work nicely. I deleted the ~/.rbutil/ folder, ran rbutilqt, and both the device and mount-point were detected. |
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11:23:04 | bluebrother | linuxstb: the settings are stored in a different place than wx does |
11:23:33 | bluebrother | check ~/Library/Preferences/ |
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11:24:02 | linuxstb | So ~/.rbutil/ was from my old wx install of rbutil|? |
11:24:28 | * | linuxstb hates the way Apple have changed Unix... |
11:24:39 | bluebrother | yes. Qt has its own handling of the folders. On linux everything is in ~/.config |
11:24:55 | bluebrother | separated by vendor and application −− we are rockbox.org/ ;-) |
11:25:20 | bluebrother | Qt tries to auto-adapt to the way the OS does it ... |
11:25:37 | linuxstb | Yes, I'm not blaming you or Qt... |
11:27:03 | bluebrother | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3-snapshot/qsettings.html#setPath |
11:27:39 | bluebrother | we use UserScope and IniFormat |
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11:30:24 | bluebrother | linuxstb: do you think we should move ipodpatcher / sansapatcher detection to the beginning? |
11:31:07 | n1s | parafin: yes |
11:33:09 | parafin | n1s, about #7174, can i tell it here? |
11:33:14 | n1s | sure |
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11:47:45 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Yes, I think so. They are a very reliable way to detect an ipod/sansa. |
11:48:02 | linuxstb | And in the future, that will be where the USB ID detection could go. |
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11:54:03 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Does "if (QString(buf[i].f_mntfromname).startsWith(device + "s") == 0) look right (to check if the device starts with, for example, /dev/disk1s) ? |
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11:59:21 | * | linuxstb wishes he understood why Mac OS X takes about 3 minutes to mount a FAT32 formatted ipod... |
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12:01:10 | bluebrother | linuxstb: looks good to me |
12:01:37 | * | bluebrother remembers a reason for not trying ipodpatcher first: it will detect the video64mb as video |
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12:02:03 | bluebrother | but once ipodpatcher can detect that properly there's no reason to keep ipodpatcher test last. |
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12:03:25 | linuxstb_ | Why is that a problem? I mean why does that affect the order of the detection? |
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12:04:07 | bluebrother | well, if the user installed a video64mb build it will be detected correctly via rockbox-info.txt. Ipodpatcher will just identify it as video |
12:04:27 | bluebrother | unless this has been changed recently (and I missed that change) |
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12:04:43 | linuxstb | But can't you just keep going through the detection mechanisms if ipodpatcher reports a video? |
12:05:17 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if I'll be able to add that detection to ipodpatcher any time soon... |
12:05:21 | bluebrother | I could, but it's more code ;-) |
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12:05:31 | petur | what if the user installed the wrong build by hand and then runs rbutil to do it correctly? |
12:05:56 | bluebrother | how about that SCSI inquiry thing? Will it be hard to add it to ipodpatcher? |
12:06:17 | linuxstb | Shouldn't (in the general case) rbutil present a shorter list of options for the user to select from if detection can't narrow it down to a single device? |
12:06:57 | bluebrother | would be an interesting approach. |
12:07:29 | bluebrother | but it would require a bit more of work |
12:07:37 | linuxstb | bluebrother: It means finding a cross-platform way to perform SCSI inquiry (although I think the IPL installer has some code for that), plus then parsing the returned XML. |
12:07:47 | n1s | saratoga: for the logs I get a warning in wmadeci.c at line 1114 after your latest change when building for h300 |
12:08:20 | bluebrother | I'd prefer to have some autodetection for the other players working first. |
12:09:06 | bluebrother | are there any persistent files on iaudio / h10 / gigabeat we could use for a first-time detection? |
12:09:23 | linuxstb | bluebrother: And also, thinking about the future, scsi inquiry won't work when the device is using Rockbox's disk mode - unless we go to the trouble of implementing it... |
12:10:09 | linuxstb | bluebrother: The gigabeat has the GBSYSTEM folder which is required for the OF bootloader to boot, so you can check those. |
12:10:50 | linuxstb | There's a minimal GBSYSTEM folder (enough to keep the OF bootloader happy and load the Rockbox bootloader) in the wiki - one of the Gigabeat pages. |
12:11:12 | petur | linuxstb: is the scsi inquiry thing only one command or is it something more complex? |
12:11:49 | petur | I mean do they use multiple scsi inquiries? |
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12:12:08 | linuxstb | Yes, it's multiple scsi inquiries, returning a large XML document split into small chunks. |
12:12:18 | petur | oh :( |
12:12:31 | petur | not very KISS from apple |
12:12:39 | bluebrother | we could add our own scsi inquiry for rockbox usb returning something much smaller |
12:12:57 | bluebrother | that way we could even detect it's rb running ;-) |
12:12:58 | linuxstb | Seems the IPL wiki is down, but it's described here - http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:y6lxrPVrMSYJ:ipodlinux.org/Device_Information+site:ipodlinux.org+Device_Information&hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&strip=1 |
12:13:57 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Yes. One nice thing would be setting the time on the device if we could send the time to rockbox... |
12:14:06 | linuxstb | (itunes does that with ipods) |
12:14:56 | bluebrother | really? Nice thing. |
12:15:29 | linuxstb | Yes, that's how amiconn discovered he had accidentally installed ipodservice.exe - the time was set on his ipod... |
12:18:38 | bluebrother | are the various ajbrec.ajz files around somewhere to download? |
12:19:10 | linuxstb | You mean the original firmware files? |
12:19:29 | bluebrother | yes. I'd like to try the unscramble thing amiconn mentioned earlier. |
12:19:53 | bluebrother | I just added detection based on the files he mentioned (and gigabeat GBSYSTEM folder detection) |
12:20:07 | linuxstb | Archos's website is possibly the best place - http://www.archos.com/support/download/firmware.html?country=global&lang=en |
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12:21:03 | fxb | since ipl svn is down: http://www.felixbruns.de/tmp/scsi_inquiry.(c|h) i anybody needs it. |
12:21:31 | fxb | not for mac though, since i don't have a mac. |
12:21:39 | linuxstb | So Linux and win32? |
12:21:52 | linuxstb | Do you have any code there to parse the resulting XML? |
12:22:22 | fxb | well, not really. just get the UpdaterFamilyID value. |
12:22:31 | linuxstb | Yes, I've just seen that function. |
12:22:36 | linuxstb | Does it work well? |
12:22:46 | fxb | ptr = strstr(buffer, "UpdaterFamilyID"); while (!isdigit(*ptr)){ ptr++; } ufid = atoi(ptr); |
12:22:50 | fxb | yeah, works. |
12:23:26 | linuxstb | OK, thanks. I'll let you know if I get it working on a Mac. |
12:23:50 | fxb | should be completely different code for mac i think |
12:24:27 | fxb | oh and 1G, 2G, 3G and 1G Mini don't send any data, but they still use the SysInfo file. |
12:24:58 | linuxstb | Hmm, "Mac OS X by design does not support sending SCSI or ATA commands from an application to most storage devices"... |
12:25:41 | bluebrother | how useful ... |
12:26:54 | fxb | i think i saw some example code from apples website. |
12:27:01 | * | fxb searching |
12:27:15 | linuxstb | fxb: We detect ipods based on the contents of the firmware partition - this works universally (assuming the ipod is not corrupt). The problem we have is determining between 32MB/64MB video ipods, as Rockbox has separate builds for the two memory sizes. |
12:27:59 | fxb | yeah, that info is in the returned xml data |
12:28:13 | linuxstb | Yes, so I saw on your wiki page. |
12:28:23 | fxb | <key>RAM</key> |
12:28:24 | fxb | <integer>32</integer> |
12:32:25 | * | linuxstb is starting to think it will be easier to unify the two ipod video builds than to perform a scsi inquiry on mac os x... |
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12:51:08 | fxb | linuxstb: i think i found something. |
12:51:43 | fxb | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicedrivers/conceptual/WorkingWithSAM/WWS_SAMDevInt/chapter_4_section_5.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000387-BCIJHCIC |
12:51:50 | amiconn | linuxstb: Why not distinguish the 32/64 MB ipod videos via the disk size? |
12:55:58 | k-man | is there a theme for rockbox that looks very basic but supports album art |
12:55:59 | k-man | ? |
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12:57:16 | amiconn | ooops |
12:57:42 | * | amiconn wanted to listen to his ipod, but still had a build with double-speed pcm on it... |
12:58:04 | parafin | k-man, rockbox-themes.org |
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13:01:30 | linuxstb | amiconn: That's not 100% foolproof - the scsi inquiry method will be. So I would like to do scsi inquiry if possible, then fall back on disk size as a backup method. |
13:02:06 | amiconn | Well, disk size could only err on the safe side (if someone upgraded a 30GB with a 60GB single platter |
13:02:21 | amiconn | Ah, no |
13:02:29 | amiconn | That's not the safe side.... |
13:03:12 | amiconn | There is a warning in wmadeci.c ... |
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13:05:02 | amiconn | ...easy to fix |
13:08:27 | JdGordon | any suggestions on what to fiddle with? (in rockbox....), im bored |
13:09:48 | parafin | #7679 for example |
13:10:55 | JdGordon | hmm... |
13:10:56 | parafin | or maybe commit #5855 and #4840 |
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13:14:09 | fxb | linuxstb: http://paste.felixbruns.de/index.php?id=43 much more code than you need on linux or win32, still not complete. |
13:18:06 | JdGordon | parafin: I dont suppose you know the dircache date/time formats do you? |
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13:19:58 | linuxstb | amiconn: Some people have also reported that apple put 32MB boards inside refurbished 60/80GB ipods. |
13:20:06 | parafin | no, i don't know it |
13:20:27 | JdGordon | anyone know the fat modified date/time format? |
13:20:59 | amiconn | The fat specs are in the wiki |
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13:23:44 | Nico_P | JdGordon: I agree on committing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5855 |
13:24:01 | * | Nico_P wonders why it still hasn't been done |
13:24:20 | * | JdGordon doesnt want to do any commiting while the build server is down |
13:24:29 | linuxstb | fxb: Thanks for the links, I'll see I can get them doing something... |
13:24:30 | * | JdGordon has no problems with that beign commited though |
13:25:03 | Nico_P | JdGordon: you can take a look at MoB code and do some fixing in playback.c :) |
13:25:06 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I guess no-one cares about pong... |
13:25:31 | JdGordon | not untill i get a new screen... this monitor gives me a headache already.. playback.c would make it worse :p |
13:25:38 | Nico_P | JdGordon: hehe :) |
13:25:40 | * | JdGordon working on hte dircache problem |
13:26:38 | parafin | btw, Recent SVN activity on http://www.rockbox.org/ still thinks that today is august |
13:26:56 | linuxstb | parafin: Yes, the server admins are all awol... |
13:27:11 | * | linuxstb pings Bagder_ again, just for fun |
13:27:47 | JdGordon | I think a polite sms would have been acceptable by now... althougyh, I suppose they are entitled to a life... |
13:27:49 | JdGordon | possibly... |
13:29:46 | JdGordon | parafin: with dircache disabled, is the modified time correct? |
13:30:03 | Nico_P | JdGordon: does anyone know their phone number ? |
13:30:23 | JdGordon | they are on haxx.se... but no need to do it... |
13:30:34 | parafin | JdGordon, yes, i said so in bug report |
13:30:41 | JdGordon | .. just making sure :) |
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13:36:51 | JdGordon | parafin: with dircache enabled, when a file is modified it shows the wrong time, what happens if you then disable dircache and check the filetime? |
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13:42:00 | parafin | it displays right time and date |
13:42:14 | JdGordon | ok, good |
13:42:20 | JdGordon | one less thing to worry about :) |
13:42:46 | JdGordon | wanna try a patch for me? |
13:44:24 | JdGordon | parafin: http://jdgordon.info:8080/dircachemodtime.patch |
13:44:28 | JdGordon | back in 10min |
13:45:32 | parafin | 404 |
13:47:15 | JdGordon | poo :p |
13:47:27 | JdGordon | http://jdgordon.info:8080/jonno/dircachemodtime.patch |
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13:48:32 | JdGordon | away without leave |
13:48:37 | JdGordon | military term |
13:48:41 | bluebrother | found it already :) |
13:48:50 | * | JdGordon wanted to feel smart :p |
13:48:56 | bluebrother | I'm no military guy |
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13:55:35 | JdGordon | parafin: ? |
13:55:56 | parafin | yeah, yeah, testing in progress |
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13:56:34 | JdGordon | Slasheri: you round? |
13:58:28 | parafin | JdGordon, you messed date and time |
13:58:36 | parafin | it changed |
13:58:49 | parafin | but now it's 2027/09/02 15:26 |
13:59:03 | JdGordon | so just the year is wrong? |
13:59:04 | parafin | instead of 2007/09/02 15:58 |
13:59:14 | JdGordon | ok |
13:59:56 | delYsid | Is the 12khz resampling for voicefonts required by the firmware to work or can I also use say 22khz mp3s? |
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14:00:45 | amiconn | If you want a huge voice file, you can also use 22kHz on swcodec targets with enough ram |
14:01:01 | amiconn | I don't remember whether there's a size limit in the loader |
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14:09:00 | JdGordon | parafin: new version at the same link, ive either fixed the year, or made it 60 years worse :p |
14:09:05 | JdGordon | and the minute is fixed also |
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14:20:14 | Vixus | Hey, have their been any changes to the iPod Mini 2G firmware since the start of this year? :D |
14:20:21 | JdGordon | a few |
14:20:46 | JdGordon | *cough* parafin? |
14:21:04 | parafin | i was eating |
14:21:28 | obo | Vixus: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges - if you update, you'll also need to update your bootloader |
14:21:55 | Vixus | ok |
14:22:52 | * | Vixus hunts for the bootloader. |
14:23:29 | * | obo points towards the manual, and its section on installation |
14:28:04 | parafin | JdGordon, well, not quite right yet |
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14:28:58 | parafin | when i created file, date and time were displayed as 2039/09/02 00:27 |
14:29:09 | parafin | year and hours are wrong |
14:29:43 | JdGordon | hmm... is dircache enabled for the sim? |
14:30:20 | JdGordon | yes :) i can test locally :p |
14:30:30 | parafin | you bastard :) |
14:31:49 | parafin | strange thing is that when i update file all seem to work fine |
14:33:27 | bluebrother | obo: do you have any idea why rbutil's menu bar shows up delayed on windows? |
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14:34:05 | obo | not off the top of my head, I'll take a looksie |
14:34:18 | bluebrother | would be great −− I have no idea about it. |
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14:39:43 | JdGordon | parafin: te date in properties is the modifed time which your expecting to change? |
14:40:35 | JdGordon | sim doesnt seem to want to play nice |
14:40:53 | parafin | erm... i don't quite understand the question |
14:41:06 | parafin | properties show modification date and time |
14:41:18 | parafin | without dircache all work fine |
14:42:04 | k-man | why can't I use rockbox while the ipod is connected to my pc? |
14:42:46 | parafin | you can, if you're only charging it |
14:43:10 | k-man | but you can't use it as a drive and use it simultaneously? |
14:43:19 | parafin | of course |
14:43:32 | k-man | you can? |
14:43:33 | bluebrother | no. You can't run disc mode and Rockbox the same time |
14:43:43 | parafin | of course you can't i mean |
14:43:45 | k-man | bluebrother, why is that? |
14:43:51 | bluebrother | it's two completely different parts |
14:44:09 | JdGordon | parafin: sim isnt helping, so your gonna have to help test again :) |
14:44:15 | bluebrother | disc mode means you're rebooting into Apple's software (disc mode only, not AppleOS) |
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14:44:24 | k-man | oh |
14:44:32 | JdGordon | parafin: what should the hour have been before? |
14:44:39 | k-man | so its actually running a totaly different os when in disk mode? |
14:44:50 | parafin | concurrent access to hard disk would be very hard think to implement, even if rockbox has working usb support |
14:44:53 | bluebrother | yes. |
14:44:57 | parafin | imho |
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14:45:30 | k-man | parafin, why is that? isn't rockbox based on linux? |
14:45:37 | bluebrother | possibly. Besides, non-PP targets usually have a dedicated USB bridge which makes it technically impossible to use usb and Rockbox the same time |
14:45:43 | bluebrother | Rockbox is _not_ based on linux. |
14:45:48 | bluebrother | it never was. |
14:45:59 | parafin | JdGordon, the hour is right |
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14:46:07 | parafin | well, not 00 |
14:46:13 | parafin | 16 |
14:47:26 | k-man | oh |
14:47:27 | k-man | sorry |
14:47:29 | k-man | my mistake |
14:47:33 | amiconn | parafin: Rockbox could read while connected on sw usb targets, but must never write (because the host fs would get very confused) |
14:48:03 | k-man | amiconn, oh, i see... interesting |
14:48:07 | amiconn | And playback needs write access (because it has to update resume position etc) |
14:48:31 | k-man | do i have to do anything special to see album art? |
14:48:49 | parafin | amiconn, wouldn't rockbox get very confused too, when host updates FS? |
14:49:06 | amiconn | rasher (and others): Am I right that we decided to prefer britsh english? |
14:49:12 | parafin | k-man, you need to use custom build with album art patch |
14:49:14 | amiconn | parafin: It could detect that |
14:49:22 | k-man | parafin, oh.... |
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14:49:42 | bluebrother | amiconn: yes, british english is preferred, at least for the manual |
14:49:50 | k-man | parafin, so it won't work if i just use an album art capable theme? |
14:49:51 | amiconn | (just need to decide about the order for matching rockbox languages -> windows LCID) |
14:49:58 | parafin | k-man, nope |
14:50:08 | amiconn | Windows offers british, american, australian and canadian IDs |
14:50:13 | k-man | parafin, can I just download a build? or i need to build it myself? |
14:50:26 | JdGordon | amiconn: all but american shold be the same in that list |
14:50:35 | amiconn | Oh, even a whole bunch more |
14:50:41 | Llorean | amiconn: Couldn't nvram be neglected while the USB is connected, and then written on disconnect? |
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14:51:26 | dnanar | hi all ! |
14:52:32 | k-man | oh... seems like album art is a little tricky to use right now |
14:52:37 | k-man | from the wiki that is |
14:53:11 | dnanar | i would like to know if somebody who has a Cowon X5(L) has already tried to change the hard drive of his player and then send the player to the warranty. I think that this avoid the warranty, but does the "warranty man" take care of this (if we put the original hard drive into the player before sending it) ? |
14:54:35 | parafin | k-man, there are custom builds on forum |
14:54:41 | parafin | you can use one of them |
14:54:41 | k-man | ah, thanks |
14:54:44 | Llorean | dnanar: This isn't a Rockbox question, but nearly all warranties are broken by any modification inside your player, even if you put it back later. |
14:55:09 | k-man | i seem to have viewed an image in rockbox but now I can't get out of the image viewer and back to the file manager |
14:57:04 | pixelma | k-man: checked the manual... ;) |
14:57:20 | k-man | ill check |
14:58:25 | JdGordon | this year field is confusing me :'( |
14:58:40 | dnanar | Llorean: ah ok sorry, i thought that i could ask this question here (because of the "Harddriveremplacement" wiki page). I know that they are broken, but i would ike to know if somebody tried to do it ;-) |
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15:00:58 | JdGordon | is tm->year set so we have to add 1900 to the year before use? |
15:01:24 | amiconn | hmm |
15:02:12 | JdGordon | I assume it is, but im just getting confuseled |
15:02:14 | amiconn | We usually name the .lang files in their native language if it uses a latin script |
15:02:14 | parafin | JdGordon, yes |
15:02:22 | bluebrother | JdGordon: check the manpage for time.h |
15:02:26 | amiconn | Why isn't finnish then named suomi.lang? |
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15:03:44 | JdGordon | parafin: well, in that case, this final version should work |
15:05:20 | pixelma | Llorean: forum question - if I modify an old post of mine to ask the original poster something and no-one posted in the meantime - will he get a notification mail (if he has that option checked)? |
15:05:36 | JdGordon | not usually... |
15:06:09 | JdGordon | unless this forum software is different to pretty much every other one I've used |
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15:06:38 | Llorean | pixelma: I don't know about notification emails. If I want to make sure a new post gets noticed, I copy the text of my old post, write a new post and merge my old text into it. :) |
15:06:57 | Llorean | Then remove the old one. |
15:07:34 | pixelma | aha, but it looks like I could try contacting him directly, he didn't hide the email address... |
15:07:41 | bluebrother | but does the user need to get another notification? If he hasn't answered yet he most likely hasn't come back anyway |
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15:08:29 | parafin | JdGordon, you've updated patch or what? |
15:08:36 | JdGordon | yeah, same link |
15:08:41 | parafin | ok |
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15:10:57 | pixelma | I'd really like to commit some of his work, he posted something but said it wasn't the final result and he would be working on it some more but that hasn't happened yet and is a while ago... I already asked him to post it to the tracker and give his real name (which is the problem) but he didn't... :/ |
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15:20:01 | JdGordon | parafin: ? |
15:20:03 | parafin | JdGordon, it works perfect now :) |
15:20:09 | JdGordon | oh snap :p |
15:20:21 | JdGordon | great, ill commit it then goto bed :p |
15:20:30 | `sam` | does anybody know of some different icons i can use in the statusbar? something i could replace the default_icons with? |
15:20:54 | JdGordon | you cant |
15:21:10 | `sam` | you can... if they exist and you replace the originals |
15:21:25 | JdGordon | not without compiling your own version |
15:21:45 | `sam` | i know, what i'm asking is if anybody has made some other icons i can do that with |
15:21:54 | JdGordon | i doubt it |
15:23:15 | bluebrother | people usually are interested in changing the ui without recompiling ... |
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15:24:24 | webguest98 | Hi. does anyone know how to set up the compiler for a mac? |
15:25:01 | `sam` | yeah i know, it's just the default_icons used in the statusbar are kinda small, as is the statusbar itself, but i changed the STATUSBAR_HEIGHT |
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15:25:08 | bluebrother | it should work similar to linux: run rockboxdev.sh from the tools/ folder |
15:25:13 | JdGordon | 20 commits since the last build.... :( |
15:25:36 | bluebrother | the icons are large enough on all of my targets :P |
15:25:54 | JdGordon | `sam`: if you have the skill and inclination, work on a patch to make the tsatusbar customizable like the rest of the icons.... |
15:25:56 | amiconn | Slasheri? |
15:26:13 | bluebrother | oh, he already left. And I was just about to directing him to the additional information in the wiki ... |
15:26:17 | `sam` | JdGordon, i have the inclination... not sure about the skill :) |
15:26:23 | `sam` | but i'm looking into it some |
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15:27:13 | JdGordon | `sam`: there is one or two patches on the tracker which do this... but they are closed, so you have to search all taks to find them |
15:27:13 | webguest98 | Hi. I am trying to set up the compiler and svn for mac. |
15:27:16 | k-man | how can I stop itunes starting up every time i plug in my ipod |
15:27:20 | bluebrother | webguest98: check also http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CrossCompiler |
15:27:50 | webguest98 | I set up the cross compiler using that link already. |
15:28:25 | webguest98 | Now I want to set up svn, but I can't figure it out. |
15:28:46 | bluebrother | no idea if there's a package around but it should be possible building from source |
15:29:26 | bluebrother | hehe: http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html |
15:29:35 | bluebrother | scroll down to "Mac OS X" ;-) |
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15:32:33 | webguest98 | Thanks. |
15:34:13 | webguest98 | I set up the compiler manually because the rockboxdev.sh didn't seem to work |
15:34:57 | k-man | has anyone used vpod for keeping ipod in sync with their pc? |
15:35:06 | webguest98 | I used home/rockbox/sansa as my prefix, but I had nothing build in that directory |
15:35:27 | webguest98 | Does that mean I didn't do it right? |
15:36:13 | bluebrother | you can use any directory you like |
15:36:42 | bluebrother | you just might need to add it to the PATH variable ... but I don't have experience on mac. |
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15:37:47 | webguest98 | Is that the directory the compiler builds in or rockbox? |
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15:49:11 | webguest98 | If I built the compiler with the wrong prefix, can I just move it, or do I have to redo the whole thing? |
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15:58:05 | webguest98 | I got svn installed now. |
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16:10:56 | webguest98 | It is all working now! Thanks! |
16:12:00 | webguest98 | Do I need to keep all the folders that were made during the install, or can I erase all of it except where the compiler itself was built? |
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16:35:05 | pengo | rockbox rocks |
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16:52:17 | lids | hello |
16:53:29 | lids | i'm looking for someone who could explain how work the MENUITEM_* macros |
16:53:47 | lids | i don't get what the name##_ is doing |
16:56:38 | amiconn | See the gnu cpp manual |
16:56:40 | bluebrother | that ## is a preprocessor macro that concatenates two strings |
16:58:11 | lids | yep, but if i get it correctly the value of _ should pasted, but the macro has not argument named _ |
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17:00:21 | bluebrother | beat JdGordon, he created that mess |
17:00:29 | bluebrother | or rather beast? |
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17:11:14 | dionoea | lids: then it just pastes _. So if you #define foo( a ) a##_ , foo( abc ) would be abc_ |
17:16:51 | lids | oh ok, thanks |
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17:43:33 | webguest75 | Hi |
17:44:47 | webguest75 | How do I install roms into my iPod |
17:44:49 | webguest75 | And How do I save gaes |
17:44:51 | webguest75 | games |
17:45:28 | krazykit | this is not the place for asking for copyrighted material |
17:45:44 | pixelma | petur: the scrollable credits are more confusing IMO and I don't like that it doesn't stop after one "round" and exit automatically like it did before (at least when viewing them through "version") |
17:45:47 | krazykit | that being said, just put them in a directory, webguest75 |
17:46:19 | webguest75 | Im not asking for roms |
17:46:23 | webguest75 | Im asking about them |
17:46:30 | petur | pixelma: yes, I agree it is not optimal but still it felt better then before |
17:46:45 | pixelma | not for me |
17:46:57 | petur | it should stop the animation on key up/down probably |
17:47:16 | pixelma | because you have no feedback where exactly you are (or just the numbers at the top) |
17:47:17 | petur | and exit after one round should be possible |
17:48:14 | pixelma | so you get a bunch of names and when scrolling up or down that could get all messy |
17:48:16 | petur | well the previous version just started, then the backlight went out and as soon as you touched a key it exited again. That wasn't user friendly |
17:48:28 | * | bluebrother points to the manual |
17:48:33 | krazykit | webguest75, call it a preemptive strike ;) |
17:48:44 | petur | pixelma: some kind of scrollbar? |
17:49:22 | bluebrother | scrollbar sounds nice. |
17:49:23 | pixelma | petur: well... the backlight thing was no issue to me because I don't have a colour screen target ;) |
17:49:39 | petur | or maybe get rid of the animation and just make it a scrollable list? |
17:49:51 | bluebrother | nah ... too easy ;-) |
17:49:58 | bluebrother | and not fancy enough :P |
17:50:25 | pixelma | and how would you decide when to exit? |
17:50:51 | bluebrother | a timeout? After n seconds of user inactivity exit? |
17:50:56 | pixelma | (or do you not want an automatic exit anymore?) |
17:51:43 | petur | well if it reached the bottom without keypress it could exit |
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17:51:56 | petur | and maybe keep the backlight on? |
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17:53:18 | petur | I'll have a go at it later tonight (too busy here now) |
17:53:23 | pixelma | so it still should scroll automatically but without animation? |
17:53:35 | pixelma | yeah, no need to hurry |
17:54:09 | pixelma | it's not that important, just tried it today for the first time and didn't like it very much in the current state |
17:56:50 | petur | no I meant stop the animation when you press up/down (-> signals manual scrolling) |
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17:57:16 | petur | and once up/down pressed you scroll by hand |
17:57:58 | * | petur gets bothered by some indian outsourcing company a customer is using :( |
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18:16:00 | chrisjs169 | I'm trying to compile the sim on Ubuntu, and get "fatal: No available video device" when trying to run rockboxui |
18:16:53 | krazykit | you're running it from X, right? |
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18:17:37 | chrisjs169 | yeah - i compiled it manually, since apt was complaining - apparently JdGordon had that problem a year ago |
18:17:46 | * | chrisjs169 tries apt-get again |
18:18:25 | chrisjs169 | oh wait] |
18:18:42 | krazykit | maybe sdl is misconfigured |
18:18:47 | chrisjs169 | yeah |
18:18:50 | krazykit | or you're trying to run it as root or something |
18:19:12 | chrisjs169 | nope, not run as root |
18:20:16 | krazykit | not sure where sdl's config files are, really |
18:20:24 | alienbiker99 | the front page is still not updating? |
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18:23:02 | lids | chrisjs169: try to modify the SDL_VIDEODRIVER environnement variable |
18:23:48 | lids | to something like xv or x11 .. |
18:23:59 | chrisjs169 | lids, hold on, i'm going to try and reinstall it |
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18:35:29 | chrisjs169 | yay, it works now |
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18:42:11 | * | chrisjs169 wonders why the front page isn't updating |
18:42:21 | * | amiconn is testing sapi4 voice building |
18:43:34 | petur | lol... the /. article about ubuntu failsafe graphics mode got tagged 'aboutfuckingtime' :) |
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18:46:01 | chrisjs169 | lol |
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18:51:01 | bluebrother | hi Domonoky |
18:53:08 | Domonoky | hi bluebrother |
18:54:27 | bluebrother | do you have any idea about the remaining issues with rbutil? I'm a bit lost ... |
18:54:51 | bluebrother | (and currently recompiling Qt on windows with debug libraries. Takes ages :( |
18:59:55 | Domonoky | about the delayed menübar.. i dont know.. about the crash: you have to find a signal which is emited while closing the app, and connect it to the abort slot of the info downloader.. i think.. |
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19:01:41 | bluebrother | shouldn't the downloader abort itself when the object is destroyed? |
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19:03:36 | Domonoky | you could try to put an abort call in the detructor of the downloader.. but i dont konw if it helps.. :-) |
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19:05:40 | bluebrother | ok, I'll try. But atm I need to wait until Qt finishes building. |
19:06:07 | Domonoky | :-) |
19:08:04 | bluebrother | but I managed to build a static linux binary. So we can distribute for another OS :) |
19:08:21 | Domonoky | nice |
19:14:15 | davina | this probably old news, but rockbox is mentioned in this months Linux Format magazine on page 59 |
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19:29:38 | linuxstb | bluebrother: BTW, I've just tried your rbutilqt linux binary and it works fine for me as well. |
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19:33:05 | iamben | is there any way to tell mythfilldatabase to "trash everything you've got, get all new listings"? |
19:33:23 | iamben | oors wrong chan! |
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20:05:19 | Domonoky_ | bluebrother: is it ok, when i remove the wx version and move qt version of rbutil ? |
20:07:00 | bluebrother | sure ... but should we really move the qt version? |
20:07:25 | linuxstb | I thought the idea was to just rename the rbutilqt directory to src ? |
20:07:28 | bluebrother | it is not uncommon for source packages to have the main code in a subfolder called src or like the project itself |
20:07:58 | bluebrother | we could even leave the name and provide a short project file that triggers building in the subfolder |
20:08:28 | Domonoky_ | ah, okey, i can also rename it.. |
20:09:48 | Domonoky_ | and what do we do with the dirs like irvertools, or icons or zlib ? |
20:10:25 | bluebrother | just keep it? |
20:10:37 | bluebrother | IMO even renaming rbutilqt is unneccesary. |
20:10:52 | Domonoky_ | okey, the i will just remove the wx version.. |
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20:14:02 | * | bluebrother wonders when someone will manage to kick the build server |
20:14:09 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Are you going to move the wiki page back? |
20:14:52 | linuxstb | ^rbutilqt wiki page... |
20:15:06 | bluebrother | seems I'm not allowed to move a page |
20:16:00 | bluebrother | Domonoky_: just put a file rbutil.pro in the rbutil folder with two lines: |
20:16:01 | bluebrother | SUBDIRS = rbutilqt |
20:16:01 | bluebrother | TEMPLATE = subdirs |
20:16:14 | bluebrother | then you can call qmake && make from the rbutil folder |
20:16:39 | linuxstb | Maybe add a short "INSTALL" file documenting the build process? |
20:16:50 | bluebrother | thought about that too. |
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20:17:50 | bluebrother | I can do that. |
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20:21:28 | * | Domonoky_ just removed the wx version.. :-) |
20:21:42 | bluebrother | ok, my first version of an INSTALL document: http://www.pastebin.ca/679139 |
20:22:39 | Domonoky_ | bluebrother: looks good, only the header is wrong.. :-) |
20:23:08 | bluebrother | what's wrong about it? The Id: line? |
20:23:22 | Domonoky_ | yup.. |
20:23:30 | bluebrother | well, svn will fix that for me ;-) |
20:24:02 | Domonoky_ | ah.. nice.. didnt know that... |
20:24:22 | bluebrother | you just need to have the svn:keywords property set correctly. |
20:26:23 | * | bluebrother just added INSTALL |
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20:27:37 | linuxstb | bluebrother: brief... |
20:27:58 | bluebrother | yes ... but is there much more to tell? |
20:28:45 | rasher | Do the unprotected files from ITMS play on Rockbox? |
20:28:51 | linuxstb | Instructions and/or links for installing qt? |
20:28:56 | bluebrother | but feel free to add more details. Of course we could add the compilation hints from the wiki page |
20:29:29 | Domonoky_ | we can always extend the INSTALL file if we get questions, about the install.. the hints from the wiki wouldnt be bad.. |
20:29:34 | linuxstb | But yes, there isn't that much more to tell... |
20:31:24 | bluebrother | hmm, stripping the static linux binary saves quite a bit of space. |
20:31:29 | linuxstb | rasher: I'm pretty sure they do. There is a forum thread about them from the time Apple launched that service. |
20:31:56 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I forgot to tell you that - it stripped about 1.3MB for me. |
20:34:23 | bluebrother | linuxstb: do you know a way to get always the current svn revision in a file? I.e. an up-to-date $Rev$-like string but without calling svnversion or something similar? |
20:34:44 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Is your linux binary compiled with debugging info? I get lots of console output when I run it. |
20:35:12 | linuxstb | One thing I forgot to mention, the icon doesn't work on the Mac - I get a piece of paper with a pen and a ruler... |
20:35:25 | rasher | linuxstb: I think Qt just talks a lot |
20:35:38 | rasher | Happens with the stock Konqueror as well |
20:35:50 | rasher | Or it could be that it does in standard configurations, of course |
20:37:48 | linuxstb | BTW, I've given up on the SCSI inquiry code on Mac OS X - none of the example code I could find worked. Google pointed me to a post on one of the Apple developers mailing list where someone was experiencing the same problem as me, but he got no reply... |
20:39:01 | bluebrother | the linux build doesn't have debug output disabled. |
20:39:08 | GodEater | this is for the memory detection linuxstb ? |
20:39:32 | bluebrother | so while it is not a debug build it will still output the qDebug() stuff. But it's easy to fix that. |
20:39:49 | linuxstb | bluebrother: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn-book.html#svn.advanced.props.special.keywords |
20:39:58 | linuxstb | GodEater: Yes. |
20:42:03 | bluebrother | linuxstb: thanks. So I need external processing :( |
20:43:49 | GodEater | patch 7691 looks good on the 5G here. |
20:44:08 | linuxstb | GodEater: Thanks. Now all I need is a working build system and I'll commit it... |
20:44:19 | GodEater | linuxstb: what did you do ? :) |
20:44:28 | linuxstb | Nothing... It's been broken since Friday. |
20:44:44 | GodEater | *your* system, or the rockbox one ? |
20:44:58 | linuxstb | The Rockbox one. |
20:45:09 | GodEater | svn appears to be working though |
20:45:13 | GodEater | I just synced |
20:45:34 | linuxstb | Yes, but the website isn't working - the current build table isn't current, neither is the front page of the website. |
20:46:12 | GodEater | so there's nothing stopping you commiting it - it just won't turn up in a current build till Zagor/Bagder fix it ? |
20:46:32 | linuxstb | Yes. But it touches virtually every target, so I would prefer the build table to be working... |
20:46:48 | GodEater | ah ok |
20:46:53 | GodEater | I understand now :) |
20:47:17 | GodEater | 3 posts away from the magic 1000 |
20:47:28 | * | GodEater hunts for something worthwhile to reply to |
20:47:30 | linuxstb | BTW, has anyone tried sncviewer - the lyrics plugin? It seems to have been around forever... |
20:47:54 | GodEater | not me |
20:48:01 | GodEater | it's in the same catergory as album art for me |
20:48:05 | GodEater | thoroughly pointless =/ |
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20:51:37 | rasher | Would be neat if it could hook into the wps somehow and display the current line |
20:51:44 | rasher | As part of the wps, that is |
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20:53:58 | linuxstb | Doesn't seem an easy thing to do unless it's part of the core though. |
20:54:44 | rasher | True enough. Not without some major nastiness at least |
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21:00:09 | GodEater | one thing 7691 doesn't seem to fix is the freeze on startup if usb is plugged in |
21:00:29 | GodEater | not sure if that was on the menu or not though |
21:00:30 | bluebrother | linuxstb: I modified the project file a bit. Standard builds now disable debug output (the qDebug() stuff) completely. |
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21:08:26 | linuxstb | GodEater: That's odd - I don't get it on my ipod Color any more... But maybe it's settings related (I wiped my ipod clean the other day) - do you have dircache and/or the database enabled? |
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21:28:44 | mastercd | can i use an ipod as an external hard drive using rockbox? |
21:28:57 | scorche | yes |
21:29:22 | mastercd | do i have to use itunes to load up songs on it? |
21:29:26 | linuxstb | You can use it as an external hard driver anyway. |
21:29:29 | linuxstb | ^drive |
21:29:30 | mastercd | im sorry, i dont know much about rockbox |
21:30:09 | linuxstb | Rockbox will work better if you just drag and drop your music files in a sensible directory structure. |
21:30:27 | mastercd | cool |
21:30:43 | preglow | linuxstb: any reason a52 uses its own swap and not swap32? |
21:30:56 | preglow | or letohwtf |
21:31:18 | linuxstb | preglow: Only that a52 predates those functions appearing in Rockbox. |
21:31:27 | linuxstb | (or I didn't spot them...) |
21:31:43 | preglow | okiedoke |
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21:32:33 | preglow | seems like a52 wants betoh32 anyway |
21:33:12 | bluebrother | grrr, something seems to be not working correctly with my last commit :( |
21:37:44 | linuxstb | preglow: Any reason you're looking at a52? |
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21:43:05 | preglow | linuxstb: just having alook at its imdct, really |
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21:44:58 | AceNik | hey guys my h10 scrollpad is givin me some problems, doesnt respond on the upper pad, it fluctuates on the center between up n down like hell, n there is no way i can scroll up prper, sometimes i can but its after a long time on the upper side but not at the upper tip |
21:45:28 | AceNik | & rockbox seems to hang pretty often when it just starts & resume playback is done ? |
21:46:51 | Soap | how well does the scrollpad work in the original firmware? |
21:47:30 | AceNik | i thing it works a lilttle better but still the upper tip doesnt work |
21:47:44 | AceNik | is it dying? |
21:48:15 | Soap | It is not a good sign that there is a hardware issue in both rockbox and the original firmware. |
21:48:40 | AceNik | well, what can i try doing? |
21:49:06 | Soap | have you considered looking for the "I've been a good boy" fix - and seeing if possibly there is just a loose ribbon cable between the touchpad and motherboard? |
21:49:16 | AceNik | the lower pad works perfect, this started just recently |
21:49:38 | Soap | It would be nice to believe it is a loose connection, not a failure. |
21:49:58 | AceNik | no i havent opened it up even oce, is it safe opening it up , just incase i dont screw up al the more |
21:50:34 | AceNik | k ill check in some days when i get tiem to look at pics t open it up thanks |
21:50:36 | Soap | _that_ I can't answer. |
21:51:02 | AceNik | otherwise is there a way to possibly code around not using the scrollpad upper side ? |
21:52:47 | AceNik | i tried to stick a piece of paper fromt he sides to possibly clean a lil dirt ont he sides, it responds better now |
21:52:56 | AceNik | but still a problem |
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22:04:49 | chrisjs169 | anyone know a font similar to the one in http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2972&d=1188582878 |
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22:33:32 | ficsch | i have a sansa e260. i moved a file from a directory to another and removed the old directory. the database still contains the old directory under "album" with the old file in it. does anyone know how this can be fixed? |
22:34:49 | midkay | ficsch: you'll have to rebuild the database ('initialize now'). |
22:35:34 | midkay | you might try 'update now' first, but probably only rebuilding will fix it. |
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22:37:55 | rasher | ficsch: How did you remove the old directory? If you did it using Windows, it might be in your Recycle bin |
22:38:05 | rasher | Which the Database will index |
22:38:14 | ficsch | no i used rm -f under linux |
22:38:25 | rasher | Then an update should fix it |
22:39:46 | ficsch | does the "harddisk" icon in the upper right corner show that the update is in progress? |
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22:41:03 | rasher | It more generally shows that disk activity is taking place, in this case probably because of the update, yes |
22:42:05 | ficsch | hmmm i choose "update now". then the icon appears for 2 seconds and nothing happens. do i have to wait until the player proposes a reboot? |
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22:44:19 | rasher | I think you can just reboot once disk activity stops, but the "update now" might not remove the entry |
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22:46:11 | amiconn | rasher: I have sapi4 voice generation working, but atm it's not really usable, 'cause it takes _ages_ |
22:46:40 | amiconn | (estimated) build time of a recorder v1 voice file: around 8 hours |
22:47:07 | amiconn | Somehow the script seems to wait longer than necessary for each clip |
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22:49:21 | * | chrisjs169 can't figure out why I'm getting "error: syntax error before 'void'" |
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22:52:04 | ze | chrisjs169: look at the line(s) before it |
22:52:11 | ze | probably missing a ; or something |
22:52:11 | ze | heh |
22:52:32 | chrisjs169 | ze: it's complaining about firmware/include/string.h - a file that hasn't been modified for two years |
22:52:37 | ze | oh |
22:53:00 | chrisjs169 | /home/ns_buildrb/rockbox/firmware/include/string.h:23: error: syntax error before 'void' |
22:53:01 | ze | then something in the file thats including it? or in a header thats included before it? |
22:53:24 | ze | or a header itincludes |
22:53:42 | chrisjs169 | any way to find that out? |
22:53:53 | rasher | amiconn: wow, that's really bizarre. Does producing a single clip directly (echo "commands" |cscript sapi_voice_new.vbs) give any insight? |
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22:54:09 | ze | well, to start, look at the full error to see what file itsactually trying to compilewhen it gets tothat |
22:54:20 | ze | and check that file |
22:54:36 | ze | cross-reference a list that includes that file, its headers, and any headers string.h includes |
22:54:43 | ze | with a list of recently changed files |
22:55:22 | chrisjs169 | gets to menu.c, and then errors out. i just reverted main.c as well, with no luck |
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23:01:01 | * | chrisjs169 tries going a few revisions back |
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23:02:05 | amiconn | grr, now I have another problem: Some voice names have spaces in them, and passing those names through make->perl->vbscript seems to be difficult... |
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23:06:21 | amiconn | Quoting in the Makefile with \" seems to work |
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23:08:59 | * | chrisjs169 has gone back to r14555 so far =/ |
23:12:10 | * | chrisjs169 decides there's a problem with the patch i'm using |
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23:14:41 | delYsid | what do I need to do to make talk_number and friends available to plugins? |
23:14:53 | delYsid | talk.h is already included in plugin.h, but the linker fails. |
23:15:07 | delYsid | where do I need to change things to export these functions? |
23:15:28 | * | pixelma spots Bagder activity in the forums... |
23:16:55 | Bagder | goood evening! |
23:18:00 | pixelma | well... a lot of people were waiting for one of you three to fix the build system issue... |
23:18:31 | pixelma | the system is still stuck in August |
23:18:47 | Bagder | I like August! ;-) |
23:18:54 | pixelma | other than that: good evening as well ;) |
23:19:18 | petur | or as agent smith said: "we missed you" :) |
23:19:58 | Bagder | hm |
23:20:04 | Bagder | svn up |
23:20:04 | Bagder | svn: Working copy '.' locked |
23:20:04 | Bagder | svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details) |
23:20:19 | Bagder | that's what happened to the build master |
23:20:43 | iamben | bob vila? |
23:20:48 | Bagder | new build started now |
23:21:18 | pixelma | start betting on warnings etc. and who's to blame ;) |
23:21:34 | * | petur wonders if the points scored will be shared by all those who committed :) |
23:21:42 | rasher | I'm betting there will be 700 points total |
23:22:04 | petur | I played safe and only did a manual tweak :p |
23:22:09 | rasher | Bagder: What happened to dev2.cgi? |
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23:22:15 | rasher | Apart from nothing at all |
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23:22:39 | Bagder | :-) |
23:26:13 | * | bluebrother is *really* pissed by RL |
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23:27:37 | petur | score = 0 |
23:27:45 | rasher | All green. That's no fun |
23:28:13 | rasher | Man, the "fake" deltas are confusing. Is this caused by differing gcc versions, or something else? |
23:28:39 | Bagder | yes, and 64 vs 32 bit builds I think |
23:29:19 | petur | 68 bytes seems to be popular |
23:29:28 | rasher | Strange that the host should matter |
23:29:30 | amiconn | rasher: Btw, did you notice how much the official voice file size went down today vs. y'day? |
23:29:32 | rasher | Assuming that's true |
23:29:47 | rasher | amiconn: Yup |
23:30:01 | Bagder | the sizes are "true" |
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23:30:53 | rasher | Bagder: yeah, but I meant, it's odd that a 32 bit host should produce a different result than a 64-bit host, if building with the exact same gcc version (to me, anyway) |
23:31:11 | Bagder | I agree |
23:31:31 | rasher | And somewhat annoying. |
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23:33:30 | Bagder | On aug 27, 445 frigging GB was downloaded from build.rockbox.org ;-/ |
23:33:42 | petur | whoa |
23:33:48 | Bagder | a normal day it is like 5 |
23:34:03 | midkay | where on earth did all that traffic come from? |
23:34:22 | Bagder | 62.143.77.120 |
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23:34:38 | Bagder | 439GB requested from a single IP |
23:34:39 | bluebrother | wasn't there a similar thing a while ago? |
23:34:48 | Bagder | it was a very similar last month, yes |
23:35:02 | bluebrother | same / similar ip? |
23:35:12 | Bagder | "only" 136GB fromt he same IP then, but not the samd |
23:35:18 | rasher | Bagder: perhaps an "if a single IP downloads over X bytes - block the bastard" needs to be employed? |
23:35:20 | Bagder | and not the same day of the month |
23:35:21 | freqmod | maybe have a filter, that you can't download more that 2 GB/day/ip or something like that |
23:35:40 | linuxstb_ | Presumably it was downloading the same file(s) repeatedly? |
23:35:45 | Bagder | fortunately this conection is unmetered |
23:35:49 | Bagder | yes, the source package |
23:35:51 | bluebrother | or make successive downloads slower? |
23:35:52 | midkay | 2GB is pretty excessive i think. if we're talking about builds. |
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23:36:01 | freqmod | maybe |
23:36:13 | iamben | sounds like maybe someone's script went wild |
23:36:24 | petur | that seems to be somewhere in .de |
23:36:34 | Bagder | yeah |
23:37:00 | iamben | if i DL more than 200MB in a day i get throttled to dialup speeds =( |
23:37:07 | bluebrother | seems like a cable connection |
23:37:34 | Bagder | anyway, top download from build during aug was ipod video 17829 downloads |
23:37:37 | petur | tele columbus west, now called unitymedia |
23:38:07 | Bagder | and the 64mb build an additional 7649 downloads |
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23:39:01 | rasher | It's also by far the most downloaded sim |
23:39:37 | Bagder | sansa e200 9909 downloads is #2 |
23:40:22 | Genre9mp3 | and the bronze metal goes to.... |
23:40:35 | Bagder | ipod nano, 9110 downloads |
23:40:40 | rasher | http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/?stats=1 |
23:40:55 | rasher | Number of downloads since last race condition in the counter code |
23:42:12 | Genre9mp3 | rasher: 666 ipov video sim downloads? |
23:42:18 | Genre9mp3 | *ipod |
23:42:28 | rasher | It would seem so |
23:42:36 | bluebrother | evil ... |
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23:47:59 | Soap | duh! |
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