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| 00:01:57 | * | petur kicks his svn trees around |
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| 00:03:58 | amiconn | petur: Still problems? |
| 00:04:19 | amiconn | I'd just scrap the tree and do a fresh checkout if it doesn't work |
| 00:04:23 | petur | yes, looks like I got two trees that hang on commit :( |
| 00:04:26 | einhirn | Aha! |
| 00:04:31 | petur | doing that now... |
| 00:04:40 | amiconn | (making a diff of anything important before) |
| 00:04:53 | einhirn | Or not. |
| 00:05:16 | einhirn | Hmm - I can configure the appearance, but not the ordering of the crosslinks *grumpf* |
| 00:05:27 | petur | hrmpf |
| 00:05:57 | petur | I think I see what happened, the patch I tried does some strange things... |
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| 00:29:36 | SoulPropagation | Hey again, how hard is it to make themes for RB? |
| 00:32:13 | Euro4Ever | is there a guy here who is maintaining the perl script voice.pl? |
| 00:32:21 | Robin0800 | SoulPropagation,not very if only for one target |
| 00:32:25 | scorche | SoulPropagation: well, that is subjective... |
| 00:33:57 | * | einhirn yawns - einhirn is tired - einhirn has to go to bed |
| 00:33:57 | Robin0800 | SoulPropagation,download a theme you like and look at how its made, it's componant parts |
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| 00:34:19 | einhirn | Bye |
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| 00:35:37 | MStublefield | Hey again everyone. |
| 00:36:41 | Robin0800 | SoulPropagation,if you understand all that it is easy to modify it to what you want |
| 00:37:00 | MStublefield | So, some troubles with putting Rockbox on the iPod... |
| 00:37:27 | * | petur hugs tortoisesvn for not being so picky as its linux cousin |
| 00:37:28 | MStublefield | Namely that it reported successful, then upon restarting the iPod, it can't load rockbox.ipod, "File not found," and my compy no longer sees the device. |
| 00:37:44 | Robin0800 | MStublefield,have you read the manual? |
| 00:38:11 | MStublefield | Not all 149 pages of it, no. |
| 00:38:17 | MStublefield | Was working through the bootloader instructions. |
| 00:38:19 | SoulPropagation | Robin0800: Is it basically a conf file and a bunch on pngs and stylesheet/gtkrc style things? |
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| 00:38:49 | SoulPropagation | a bunch of * |
| 00:39:17 | scorche | MStublefield: you skipped the "installing the firmware" step |
| 00:39:45 | MStublefield | Sunova... |
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| 00:39:57 | MStublefield | You know, I get paid to do this kind of stuff? And yet every once in a while, I'll overlook some mundane detail... |
| 00:40:05 | MStublefield | It's like I live in Office Space. |
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| 00:40:17 | Robin0800 | SoulPropagation,bmps. wps file, config file and fonts |
| 00:40:44 | SoulPropagation | Robin0800: doesn't sound too hard at all... I'll let you know what I come up with |
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| 00:42:38 | MStublefield | There, fixed. |
| 00:43:47 | * | bluebrother points to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityQt |
| 00:45:29 | Robin0800 | bluebrother,that does not autodetect all the ipods yet! |
| 00:45:29 | MStublefield | Is there a quick and easy way to increase the font size? |
| 00:45:52 | Robin0800 | MStublefield,brouse fonts |
| 00:45:54 | BigBambi | MStublefield: Install the font pack |
| 00:45:58 | BigBambi | This is in the manual |
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| 00:47:21 | DavidGWRawson | Hello. |
| 00:47:30 | chrisjs169 | Hey DataGhost |
| 00:47:31 | MStublefield | Cool, thanks. |
| 00:47:39 | chrisjs169 | DavidGWRawson* |
| 00:47:49 | chrisjs169 | DataGhost, sorry - didn't press tab enough times |
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| 00:48:39 | DavidGWRawson | I have a question about reverse engineering firmware, if thats on-topic here. |
| 00:48:53 | chrisjs169 | ok |
| 00:49:51 | DavidGWRawson | Is there an application that I can use to decompile it? |
| 00:50:15 | eigma | DavidGWRawson: www.google.com |
| 00:50:15 | linuxstb | Which firmware? |
| 00:50:19 | scorche | DavidGWRawson: reverse engineering what firmware? |
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| 00:50:37 | DavidGWRawson | M200 Sansa |
| 00:50:39 | Euro4Ever | do you know of a document describing how to automate task under scygwin? i'm googling but can't find what i want |
| 00:51:35 | linuxstb | Euro4Ever: Search for help about "bash" (the default shell in cygwin). |
| 00:52:01 | Euro4Ever | lids: ok i try thx |
| 00:52:01 | linuxstb | Or something like "shell scripts" |
| 00:52:08 | Euro4Ever | k |
| 00:52:31 | linuxstb | DavidGWRawson: What kind of CPU is it using? |
| 00:52:39 | scorche | DavidGWRawson: what do you plan to accomplish by r/e this firmware? |
| 00:53:10 | lids | wrong one, i think |
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| 00:53:29 | DavidGWRawson | A new port for rockbox. |
| 00:53:39 | DavidGWRawson | Possibly |
| 00:53:44 | scorche | but how?...how will r/e this firmware help you do that? |
| 00:53:53 | DavidGWRawson | To see how it works? |
| 00:53:56 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: And what hardware does it have? |
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| 00:54:21 | scorche | DavidGWRawson: if you cant understand C, you WILL NOT understand assembly...it isnt very easy |
| 00:54:36 | DavidGWRawson | Just some chips, I opened it and found the processor, by Telechips. |
| 00:54:58 | linuxstb | Exactly what chip? TCC770? |
| 00:55:03 | BigBambi | lol, just some chips - those are faily important |
| 00:55:08 | BigBambi | *fairly |
| 00:55:32 | maxkelley | there's a wikipage on the m200. |
| 00:55:33 | DavidGWRawson | Yes Tcc770! |
| 00:55:57 | linuxstb | Then you need an ARM disassembler. arm-elf-objdump is a very basic one, or IDA Pro. |
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| 00:56:21 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: And what else? LCD controller for instance? |
| 00:56:22 | DavidGWRawson | so I svn something? |
| 00:56:25 | maxkelley | I thought I already disassembled the m200 fw. |
| 00:56:35 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaM200Port |
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| 00:56:41 | BigBambi | maxkelley: He won't have checked |
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| 00:57:32 | * | eigma <3 IDA |
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| 00:58:24 | ddalton | can anyone help me with voicebox here? |
| 00:58:28 | maxkelley | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7727.15 |
| 00:59:13 | DavidGWRawson | ok, never mind then..... |
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| 00:59:39 | maxkelley | max tired. |
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| 01:03:13 | pixelma | maxkelley: did you try doom on c200? I had a hard time deciphering the game menu in the sim (but worked) |
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| 01:08:00 | delYsid | hmm, anyone working on an eartraining plugin yet? |
| 01:08:25 | dionoea | not that i know. |
| 01:09:47 | delYsid | This idea of a portable eartraining gadget is floating my mind since at least a year now, seems like rockbox is *the* opportunity to make it a reality. |
| 01:10:16 | maxkelley | pixelma: erm, I get the error of no WAD file, but haven't worked it out. |
| 01:10:21 | maxkelley | I will after foodtime. |
| 01:10:27 | Kupopop | ear training? |
| 01:11:00 | delYsid | Kupopop: yeah, like playing back random chords and letting the user guess the type of chord... |
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| 01:11:25 | MStublefield | Mmm... thanks for the help earlier, everyone. Rockbox is quite pretty :-) It's nice to take yet another step along the path of nerddom, too. |
| 01:11:37 | delYsid | sounds relatively easy, I just wonder how to use simple file playback from within a plugin |
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| 01:11:59 | DavidGWRawson | What if I could make rockbox entirely 3D? |
| 01:12:00 | pixelma | maxkelley: how to "fix" that is explained in the PluginDoom page... someone said that doom would freeze on their e2x0 player though |
| 01:12:04 | BigBambi | MStublefield: Heh, no problem. Questions are always welcome, but we do appreciate reading the manual and checking wiki/forums first |
| 01:12:13 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: Go ahead |
| 01:12:40 | MStublefield | Yeah, but the 149 page heading for the manual was a bit daunting. Taking 30 seconds to ask and wait for an answer was a bit easier, and my time's limited this evening. |
| 01:12:42 | DavidGWRawson | I'll try, after a little more coding practice. =) |
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| 01:13:40 | MStublefield | Ooh, pause fades in and out... |
| 01:13:42 | MStublefield | Very fancy. |
| 01:13:44 | BigBambi | MStublefield: Yeah, but it is annoying to repeatedly answer the same questions - that is why the manual was written. It is searchable, and has contents... |
| 01:14:03 | BigBambi | Anyway, glad you got it sorted :) |
| 01:14:11 | MStublefield | Understood. |
| 01:14:14 | MStublefield | And thanks again. |
| 01:15:03 | BigBambi | MStublefield: No worries, enjoy |
| 01:15:30 | chrisjs169 | DavidGWRawson, how 3d do you plan to make it? |
| 01:15:59 | DavidGWRawson | I don't know, little 3D effects to start with. |
| 01:16:17 | DavidGWRawson | I saw the 3D cube demo, and I thought it had some potential. |
| 01:16:21 | * | bluebrother wonders if there are devs with limited time ... as quite some users of that kind exist :/ |
| 01:16:27 | DavidGWRawson | Not to mention doom. |
| 01:16:34 | chrisjs169 | cool |
| 01:16:40 | chrisjs169 | can't wait to see it |
| 01:16:52 | DavidGWRawson | It'll probably take some work. |
| 01:16:56 | DavidGWRawson | Quite a bit. |
| 01:17:06 | BigBambi | A lot |
| 01:17:37 | DavidGWRawson | But it would be cool, wouldn't it? |
| 01:17:50 | BigBambi | I'm not bothered |
| 01:18:24 | chrisjs169 | it'd be cool if the Sansa could handle it |
| 01:19:11 | DavidGWRawson | It would be hard to make the code efficient enough to make it work smoothly.... |
| 01:20:26 | DavidGWRawson | I think it would be even cooler to make the textures custom, like bitmaps. Using the themes. |
| 01:20:31 | chrisjs169 | yeah |
| 01:20:38 | chrisjs169 | how long do you think it'd take to do all that? |
| 01:20:44 | DavidGWRawson | Years. |
| 01:21:18 | DavidGWRawson | Rockbox evolves over time. |
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| 01:21:48 | chrisjs169 | would it really take years? |
| 01:21:55 | scorche | DavidGWRawson: a bit of wise advice: work on the basics before you start on to more advanced projects |
| 01:22:33 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: Learning some C and writing a simple plugin would be a start |
| 01:22:39 | linuxstb | JdGordon: (for the logs) - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12712.0 |
| 01:23:05 | DavidGWRawson | I looked at the plugin making wiki. Helloworld.c. Seems somewhat simple enough. |
| 01:23:20 | scorche | then make a slightly more advanced item |
| 01:23:55 | scorche | something that can manipulate a list of numbers in some way, perhaps |
| 01:24:08 | DavidGWRawson | I'm testing my first attempt at making rockbox 3D. (120% chance it wont work) |
| 01:24:13 | DavidGWRawson | An algorithm? |
| 01:24:22 | DavidGWRawson | scorche |
| 01:24:43 | scorche | point is, to get to the roof of a building, you ahve to go up the stairs...you cant just jump tot he roof |
| 01:24:58 | DavidGWRawson | Unless your Neo. |
| 01:24:59 | dionoea | except if you're a super hero |
| 01:25:02 | dionoea | gra :( |
| 01:25:19 | scorche | to sate curiosity, what did you do for this first attempt? |
| 01:25:39 | DavidGWRawson | Ey, C compiler in the player itself. |
| 01:25:50 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: That makes no sense |
| 01:26:22 | DavidGWRawson | I just put in little equations and now I'm gonna see what happens. |
| 01:26:34 | scorche | can you give me an example? |
| 01:26:44 | BigBambi | Or a diff? |
| 01:26:57 | DavidGWRawson | a diff....ok, I'll make one. |
| 01:27:03 | DavidGWRawson | Oh, and it crashed.... |
| 01:27:10 | Kupopop | is a 3d interface actually practical or is it just a gimmick? |
| 01:27:25 | scorche | Kupopop: depends who you ask... |
| 01:27:32 | DavidGWRawson | Simple 3D sprites. GIF!!! |
| 01:27:37 | Kupopop | you could just simulate it with animations |
| 01:27:51 | DavidGWRawson | I was thinking the same thing! |
| 01:28:07 | DavidGWRawson | What about gif backdrops> |
| 01:28:19 | scorche | what about them? |
| 01:28:24 | DavidGWRawson | it would be neat |
| 01:28:36 | BigBambi | Why? |
| 01:28:45 | scorche | then implement them...you dont have to run every idea that crosses your head to us |
| 01:28:57 | DavidGWRawson | OK! I WILL! |
| 01:29:09 | bluebrother | animated backdrops would be annoying at best. |
| 01:29:24 | bluebrother | but feel free to create a patch ... |
| 01:29:52 | Kupopop | you could use an animation of that fat european kid miming to that song... |
| 01:29:57 | DavidGWRawson | Second thought, I agree with you bluebrother. But I mean slow, ambient motion. |
| 01:30:05 | DavidGWRawson | Numa Numa |
| 01:30:15 | BigBambi | On topic please |
| 01:30:19 | Kupopop | yes I think that will match any song |
| 01:30:28 | bluebrother | enough strange ideas for today. bye. |
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| 01:31:55 | DavidGWRawson | How hard would it be to port halo 3 to rockbox? |
| 01:32:09 | scorche | are you joking? |
| 01:32:11 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: Don't be stupid |
| 01:32:26 | DavidGWRawson | Ok, original mdk. |
| 01:32:44 | DavidGWRawson | That's one step up from doom. |
| 01:33:02 | Kupopop | browse fonts dosent browse fonts? |
| 01:33:14 | Kupopop | the hard drive light goes on for a bit but nothing happens |
| 01:33:17 | BigBambi | Kupopop: Have you installed the fonts |
| 01:33:20 | scorche | are you going to keep putting out every single idea to this channel? |
| 01:33:24 | Kupopop | I can see the font files in the directory |
| 01:33:31 | Kupopop | oh wait |
| 01:33:34 | DavidGWRawson | no. bye then |
| 01:34:57 | Kupopop | so after compiling I need to copy the fonts directory from source to the .rockbox directory? |
| 01:35:37 | BigBambi | If you are compiling make full zip then extract that, it includes the fonts |
| 01:36:18 | pixelma | you can also "make fullzip" but if you didn't change anything within the fonts you don't need that |
| 01:36:33 | Kupopop | oh okay I did make zip before |
| 01:36:37 | BigBambi | yes sorry, remove the space from what I put |
| 01:36:38 | Kupopop | that must have been it |
| 01:37:18 | DavidGWRawson | Why won't the simulator compile? |
| 01:37:29 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: Specifics |
| 01:38:16 | DavidGWRawson | It says "cannot find sourcecode 8208245 5.5" |
| 01:39:20 | linuxstb | What did you type before that error message appeared? |
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| 01:40:02 | DavidGWRawson | didnt find sdl-config |
| 01:40:18 | BigBambi | DavidGWRawson: Have you installed SDL? |
| 01:40:42 | DavidGWRawson | svn svn:\\sdl.tar.gz? |
| 01:40:53 | dionoea | almost |
| 01:41:03 | BigBambi | sudo apt-get install libsdl-dev |
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| 01:41:19 | BigBambi | assuming you are on debian/debian derivative |
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| 01:44:11 | chrisjs169|winxp | linuxstb: I tested your (modified) copy of e200rpatcher |
| 01:44:28 | linuxstb | And? |
| 01:44:51 | chrisjs169|winxp | it sort of works |
| 01:44:51 | | Part n1s |
| 01:45:12 | chrisjs169|winxp | [INFO] Patching application uploaded successfully! |
| 01:45:38 | chrisjs169|winxp | However, nothing happens on the screen (am I missing the bootloader file?) |
| 01:46:27 | chrisjs169|winxp | When I try to run it again, it *does* say that it can't find the Sansa, which (to me) means that the Sansa tried to execute the bootloader, but failed |
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| 01:47:34 | chrisjs169|winxp | oh, figured |
| 01:47:36 | chrisjs169|winxp | *figures |
| 01:47:44 | chrisjs169|winxp | I check the forum to see I'm late |
| 01:48:02 | web-taz | sry for the question, but why has this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7487?histring=mpeg no ending (*.patch *.diff) and why doesn't it start like others with index and so on...? |
| 01:48:56 | linuxstb | web-taz: Ask the patch creator - it sounds like they haven't followed the recommended way to create a patch. |
| 01:48:56 | chrisjs169|winxp | web-taz: looks to me like it's a patch, just created in a different program |
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| 01:49:13 | web-taz | well |
| 01:49:32 | web-taz | i just need to know which ending I must add, patch or diff? |
| 01:49:43 | web-taz | or doesnt it matter? |
| 01:49:55 | dionoea | it doesn't matter |
| 01:49:59 | web-taz | nice |
| 01:50:00 | web-taz | thx |
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| 01:50:09 | dionoea | they're just plain text files |
| 01:50:57 | chrisjs169|winxp | linuxstb: I think I see the problem |
| 01:51:07 | chrisjs169|winxp | no bootloader file is being defined |
| 01:51:25 | chrisjs169|winxp | unless it's built in |
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| 01:52:20 | einhirn | amiconn: you there? |
| 01:52:28 | amiconn | yes |
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| 01:52:38 | amiconn | Your patch is a bit strange, I must say |
| 01:52:49 | einhirn | Thought about the timing issue with the buffer a bit. |
| 01:52:52 | einhirn | What about it? |
| 01:53:08 | amiconn | First, when the "prevent clipping" option does not, and can not, do anything - why did you include it at all? |
| 01:53:38 | amiconn | We already have too many option, so an option that doesn't do anything is really bad |
| 01:53:55 | einhirn | I know about that - didn't want to exclude it before discussing it. |
| 01:54:00 | einhirn | Will remove. |
| 01:54:09 | einhirn | Next issue? |
| 01:54:22 | amiconn | I also wonder where all the parameters of mp3_init() went. Are they not necessary? |
| 01:54:30 | einhirn | Hah |
| 01:54:37 | einhirn | Nope, they aren't any more. |
| 01:55:00 | einhirn | Thats what the call to "sound_settings_apply" is for |
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| 01:55:26 | amiconn | Ah, so we actually set all the sound options twice in svn? |
| 01:55:34 | einhirn | yup |
| 01:55:39 | amiconn | Nice catch... |
| 01:56:30 | einhirn | problem is that "audio_is_initialized" (or how that variable is called) is only set in "mp3_init". So any Setter routine in "sound.c" will do nothing before "mp3_init" |
| 01:56:58 | einhirn | And thats why all those parameters were passed to mp3_init - to call the "sound.c"-Setters from there. |
| 01:57:26 | einhirn | Of course, since the Replaygain config was missing there, it didn't get initialized on boot. |
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| 01:58:00 | einhirn | And now it is initialized because the setters for it are (also) called in sound_settings_apply(); |
| 01:58:47 | amiconn | There's a strange preprocessor sequence in void sound_set_replaygain(void) |
| 01:59:07 | chrisjs169|winxp | 0 |
| 01:59:08 | einhirn | yes, I copied it from dsp.c |
| 01:59:23 | amiconn | #if CONFIG_CODEC == SWCODEC / #else /* only here something happens */ #endif |
| 01:59:24 | chrisjs169|winxp | sorry - Sansa and a few cards fell |
| 01:59:47 | amiconn | Why not just #if CONFIG_CODEC != SWCODEC, saving the else? |
| 01:59:56 | linuxstb | chrisjs169|winxp: e200rpatcher doesn't upload a bootloader - it uploads a built-in application which runs on the e200r and patches the existing bootloader. |
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| 02:00:04 | chrisjs169|winxp | linuxstb: ok |
| 02:00:18 | amiconn | That strange sequence is actually used several times |
| 02:00:30 | einhirn | Well, the other setter routines needed the else, so I didn't leave it out on my setters ;) |
| 02:00:49 | chrisjs169|winxp | is it possible there's a problem with the application? it seems that the sansa is accepting the upload, because it seems to 'exit' Manufacturing mode |
| 02:00:56 | pixelma | preparing for playback engine unification ;) |
| 02:01:08 | einhirn | Ok, thats noted, too. |
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| 02:01:36 | amiconn | And finally, I still don't like the 64 bit multiplication. Maybe I'll come up with something easier... |
| 02:01:55 | chrisjs169|winxp | seems similar to when I tested a previous copy of e200rpatcher on my sansa using a bad copy of the patcher |
| 02:02:19 | amiconn | s/easier/simpler/ |
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| 02:03:09 | einhirn | amiconn: yes - I use that excessivly when especially the "mono" and "karaoke" settings could exist without the multiplication. |
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| 02:03:28 | einhirn | These cases could be handled with Bitwise operations, I think. |
| 02:03:59 | amiconn | Even for the generic case (variable stereo width) we don't need the full 64 bit |
| 02:04:19 | * | amiconn checks whether svn rockbox already uses muldi3 on sh |
| 02:04:57 | * | chrisjs169|winxp will be right back - going to Linux computer |
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| 02:05:42 | amiconn | Hmm, it doesn't |
| 02:05:47 | einhirn | But we have 25 relevant Bits in the Gain factor and 20 relevant Bits in the MAS-Parameter, so I'd need 64 Bits, don't I? |
| 02:06:07 | amiconn | Not necessarily; we'll see |
| 02:06:22 | amiconn | The final result only has 20 bits, not 45 |
| 02:06:37 | einhirn | that is true. |
| 02:07:16 | amiconn | The MAS parameter (before applying replaygain) only has ~8 relevant bits |
| 02:07:18 | einhirn | I kept to the "Optimisation" Guideline: "Just do it later" |
| 02:07:27 | amiconn | ...because it's calculated from a percentage |
| 02:07:47 | einhirn | ... in the case "custom" |
| 02:08:12 | amiconn | Yes, and in the other cases it's just proper shifting |
| 02:09:00 | * | amiconn probably has to calculate replaygain tags for a copy of a few albums in order to test this patch |
| 02:09:48 | einhirn | amiconn: be sure to save them in idv2 tags! ;) |
| 02:09:57 | amiconn | Of course |
| 02:10:05 | amiconn | I'll delete that copy later anyway |
| 02:11:03 | einhirn | I just had to recalculate tags for about 1000 mp3s because I dropped the rg-info when removing the apev2 header - without an ID3v2 header being there... |
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| 02:13:58 | Tofu | Hi, sorry to barge in like that with a question right away, but I just need a confirmation of what I think is true and I'd appreciate an answer from someone more knowledgable than myself. |
| 02:14:34 | chrisjs169 | Tofu, ask your question ;) |
| 02:14:41 | Tofu | Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can install Rockbox on this 80G iPod: http://kakaku.com/spec/01309511987/ (the page is in Japanese, but there's a model number on top of the page) |
| 02:14:45 | Tofu | am I right? |
| 02:16:06 | chrisjs169 | if the generation is listed on the Rockbox site, it should work |
| 02:16:16 | dionoea | ipod classic is the name for the new ipods right ? |
| 02:16:20 | Tofu | the model number in question is MB029J/A - I have no idea which generation that would be, that's the problem |
| 02:16:35 | dionoea | (and new ipods use new hardware so rockbox doens't work on them) |
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| 02:17:25 | Tofu | crap, let me check on the japanese Apple site again - I couldn't find generation info there but maybe I didn't look close enough |
| 02:18:12 | chrisjs169 | Apple needs to make it clear what Gen it is |
| 02:18:12 | Tofu | I just need some music player fast - my old iRiver H320 died on me last week and I'm musically impaired since ;) |
| 02:19:21 | Tofu | yeah, I'm looking at the specifications sheet right now and no dice - they have a ton of information, but nothing o the generation :( |
| 02:20:07 | Tofu | then again, dionoea, you're saying that "classic" is the name of the new line, so it seems I gotta look for something else |
| 02:20:13 | Tofu | I'm allergic to iTunes |
| 02:20:25 | dionoea | Tofu: I'm not 100% sure. |
| 02:20:35 | chrisjs169 | lot of pages in German... |
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| 02:21:25 | Tofu | they seem to have another 80GB model - MA448J/A - this one is more expensive, but seems to have been on the market much longer |
| 02:22:00 | chrisjs169 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_classic |
| 02:22:09 | chrisjs169 | looks like it's either 5th gen or 6th gen |
| 02:22:40 | Tofu | but if it's 6th Rockbox will not work, right? |
| 02:24:05 | scorche | the classic is the 6th gen |
| 02:24:29 | Tofu | a-ha! didn't think it would work, but it did - just changed the prefix in wikipedia to ja. and I got the japanese page - classic is ingeed 6th gen :( |
| 02:25:50 | Tofu | too bad the older 80GB model costs almost as much as the 6th gen classic 160GB :/ |
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| 02:27:21 | web-taz | what went wrong when i'm asked: "File to patch:" after trying to apply a patch? skipping the patch leads back to this question... |
| 02:27:43 | web-taz | should i search the files the patch would change or should i name the patchfile? |
| 02:32:02 | Tofu | All right, thanks for your help - I guess I just have to go to the store and see if they have any 5.5th gen ipods there still... or get another player that supports Rockbox ;) |
| 02:32:29 | kfazz | anybody know what lcd_invertscroll does? |
| 02:32:43 | SoulPropagation | sounds like it makes it scroll the other way than it normally does |
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| 02:34:04 | kfazz | i was thinking color inversion.. trying to find the code where bar line selector happens |
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| 02:36:49 | DarkJesus | Hey |
| 02:37:06 | DarkJesus | Just want to make sure about something before I buy it |
| 02:37:33 | DarkJesus | I was going to get an iaudio M5L and then buy a larger double platter drive for it |
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| 02:37:38 | DarkJesus | Firstly, is this possible? |
| 02:37:58 | DarkJesus | Secondly, will rockbox work perfectly with the iaudio M5 and the larger drive? |
| 02:39:19 | linuxstb | IIRC, it's possible to put a double-platter drive in an X5L if you remove the 2nd battery. I don't know about the M5L though. But it's just a physical issue - Rockbox shouldn't have any problem. |
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| 02:39:33 | DarkJesus | Alright, good |
| 02:39:46 | DarkJesus | The M5L is going for cheaper though |
| 02:39:56 | DarkJesus | But it should be possible to put the larger drive in |
| 02:40:07 | DarkJesus | Anyone know what type of battery life I should expect afterwards? |
| 02:40:19 | amiconn | DarkJesus: Yes, but you need one with the correct connector |
| 02:40:26 | DarkJesus | Yeah, I know |
| 02:40:28 | DarkJesus | 50 pin IDE |
| 02:40:34 | amiconn | yup |
| 02:40:36 | DarkJesus | I already made that mistake once... |
| 02:41:03 | amiconn | Battery life will be like normal M5 (not L) afterwards |
| 02:41:08 | DarkJesus | Anyway, having one less battery will obviously lessen the battery life, but I hear these new drives are more power efficient |
| 02:41:11 | DarkJesus | Oh, alright |
| 02:41:21 | DarkJesus | Cool |
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| 02:41:25 | DarkJesus | I need to research then |
| 02:41:37 | amiconn | The M5 has a battery capacity of 950mAh, the M5L has 2250mAh |
| 02:41:46 | DarkJesus | I should be able to get it with the 60/80GB drive for about £170, which is nice |
| 02:42:07 | linuxstb | DarkJesus: Have you found a source for the 80GB drive? |
| 02:42:09 | DarkJesus | I can sell the 20GBer that comes with it, to get a little back :) |
| 02:42:17 | DarkJesus | linuxstb: no and I probably won't |
| 02:42:26 | DarkJesus | span had it, but it is discontinued |
| 02:43:11 | linuxstb | I can't recall span ever having it - it was always due in the future, then became discontinued... (I might have missed it though) |
| 02:43:16 | amiconn | Now if someone made an ata50-zif adapter... |
| 02:43:21 | DarkJesus | Alright |
| 02:43:27 | DarkJesus | Yeah...*sigh* |
| 02:43:36 | DarkJesus | All these new large drives are zif |
| 02:43:49 | amiconn | yup |
| 02:44:08 | * | amiconn is a happy owner of an H140 upgraded with an MK8007GAH :) |
| 02:44:56 | DarkJesus | Where did you get it from? |
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| 02:45:00 | DarkJesus | I want one! |
| 02:45:10 | amiconn | eBay |
| 02:45:23 | DarkJesus | American ebay? |
| 02:45:25 | linuxstb | I bought one from a US ebay shop, but they stopped selling them shortly after I bought it. |
| 02:46:00 | amiconn | No, .de |
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| 02:46:35 | einhirn | amiconn: while working on "sound.c" found out what I need the "else" for ;) So the compiler stops complaining about unused variables ;) |
| 02:46:40 | amiconn | And it wasn't from a shop. |
| 02:47:02 | web-taz | someone managed to link a ZIF HDD with an iriver |
| 02:47:05 | einhirn | Of course I need to "(void)value" in case of "SWCODEC" |
| 02:47:27 | DarkJesus | Is it wise to get a refurbished drive? |
| 02:47:30 | SoulPropagation | I tell ya, those ZIF connectors are a real pain in the butt |
| 02:47:39 | DarkJesus | Like this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/iPod-Parts-60gb-Hard-Drive-OEM-Warranty-MK6006GAH_W0QQitemZ290158078751QQihZ019QQcategoryZ94930QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem ? |
| 02:47:39 | linuxstb | The 60GB drive (MK6006GAH) seems good value though - $80 on ebay US (buy it now). |
| 02:47:55 | SoulPropagation | DarkJesus: if it's from a seller with lotsa good feedback and a guarantee then yes |
| 02:48:02 | DarkJesus | Alright then |
| 02:48:23 | amiconn | einhirn: Uh? Swcodec shouldn't have these functions as they won't be used (as swcodec sets replaygain in dsp_*) |
| 02:49:10 | einhirn | yes, but if swcodecs compile sound.c/sound.h |
| 02:49:45 | amiconn | Make all these functions #if CONFIG_CODE != SWCODEC ... |
| 02:49:59 | amiconn | The whole functions, not just the body |
| 02:50:03 | einhirn | Hmmk |
| 02:50:38 | einhirn | I thought about that too, but then I thought, that maybe they'd get called somewhere sometime and then they'd not be defined. |
| 02:51:01 | einhirn | OTOH - if they are called and have an empty body, the caller has done something wrong ;) |
| 02:51:04 | amiconn | Why should they get called? |
| 02:51:23 | einhirn | Dunno ;) |
| 02:52:28 | amiconn | Keeping them is bad, as you won't notice immediately if they do get called (they would just not do anything), while if they're not there and something tries to call them, you'll get a linker error and notice immediately |
| 02:52:34 | amiconn | (symbol not defined) |
| 02:53:09 | einhirn | yes - thats what I meant with my "OTOH - ..." some minute ago ;) |
| 02:53:30 | amiconn | web-taz: Saw that. But such an adapter isn't easy to make by hand, you might have problems to get the necessary connectors etc |
| 02:56:06 | web-taz | yes its difficult, but i think you just have to connect the right pins |
| 02:56:16 | web-taz | and he made instructions for that |
| 02:56:37 | web-taz | i wouldn't try that either... |
| 02:56:40 | amiconn | Yes, with a pin spacing of ~0.5 mm |
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| 02:59:16 | DarkJesus | Pretty sure it will be a 60GB drive I will end up getting |
| 02:59:36 | web-taz | Sata or ZiF? ;) |
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| 03:00:52 | amiconn | Certainly not sata |
| 03:00:52 | web-taz | well im totally sure, that i've ended up with a failed first try to patch :-/ |
| 03:01:11 | web-taz | and so i'll end up a bit frustrated in my bed |
| 03:01:18 | web-taz | good night all together |
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| 03:15:26 | einhirn | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7747 |
| 03:15:42 | einhirn | I've modified and added a new revision of the patch. |
| 03:15:56 | einhirn | It compiles ;) I hope it still works ;) |
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| 03:33:21 | aliask | Anyone familiar with the software usb in trunk at the moment? |
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| 03:42:06 | einhirn | amiconn: anyway about the MAS-Buffer Timing issue - if it ever is important enough - it could probably be solved by using the fact that every MP3 frame contains the same sample count - using the sample rate that is detected anyway one could give a pretty good estimate how long current track will still play by keeping track of the frames in the buffer. |
| 03:42:16 | einhirn | And I really need some sleep now ;) |
| 03:42:23 | einhirn | Nighty-Night. |
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| 03:42:53 | sevenfoldizm | Hello? Is there anybody here currently that can help me out with a roadblock I've encountered while trying to patch the bootloader on my Sansa e260r? |
| 03:43:23 | aliask | sevenfoldizm: Probably plenty, just ask your question |
| 03:43:40 | sevenfoldizm | Ok thinks, here goes... |
| 03:46:25 | sevenfoldizm | I'm working on patching the bootloader while using an ubuntu live cd. I'm on step 2, when I hold the record button down and execute the command it says it found the device but failed to claim the interface. (Operation not permitted) Then it searches for another device which it can't find and ends the task. |
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| 03:48:14 | sevenfoldizm | Crap, Sorry for the trouble I just realized there was a thread with this exact problem in the forums! |
| 03:48:20 | sevenfoldizm | Sorry! |
| 03:49:32 | sevenfoldizm | hmmm ok, does anyone know what this guy means when he says "Run it with 'sudo'" |
| 03:49:55 | aliask | Stick "sudo" before the command |
| 03:50:04 | aliask | It makes the command run with admin rights |
| 03:50:11 | sevenfoldizm | with or without a space? |
| 03:50:13 | aliask | With |
| 03:50:24 | sevenfoldizm | ok, thank you aliask I'll try it |
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| 04:04:54 | sevenfoldizm | Encountered another roadblock. |
| 04:05:56 | sevenfoldizm | When trying to copy OF.mi4 to mnt/system/ it says that there is no such file or directory |
| 04:07:01 | aliask | Does OF.mi4 exist, or is it complaining that /mnt/system doesn't exist? |
| 04:07:23 | sevenfoldizm | It is complaining about /mnt/system |
| 04:07:49 | sevenfoldizm | it says target is not a directory |
| 04:07:54 | aliask | Well, for starters, that doesn't look like a valid path - type "mount" at the command line |
| 04:08:05 | aliask | And look for the one which is your sansa |
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| 04:08:25 | aliask | It will be something like /media/_____ |
| 04:09:08 | sevenfoldizm | ok I see it. What now? |
| 04:09:22 | aliask | Replace /mnt/system with /media/____/system |
| 04:10:46 | aliask | So you should end up with something like "cp OF.mi4 /media/e200r/system" |
| 04:11:22 | sevenfoldizm | well it is called /media/Sansa e200r and when I try to do it it says "e200r is not a directory" is the space conflicting? |
| 04:11:39 | aliask | Yes, you need to escape the space with a \ |
| 04:11:52 | aliask | /media/Sansa\ e200r/system |
| 04:13:51 | sevenfoldizm | it says cannot create regular file and claims there is not such directory |
| 04:13:57 | sevenfoldizm | no such* |
| 04:14:25 | aliask | Is there a folder called "system" in your sansa? I'm not too familiar with the install instructions... |
| 04:15:01 | sevenfoldizm | yes |
| 04:15:16 | advcomp2019 | you can even drag and drop those files like in the windows steps but make sure you name them right |
| 04:15:43 | sevenfoldizm | ok so I can drag and drop the file into system? |
| 04:15:49 | aliask | Yeah, that'd be fine |
| 04:15:55 | sevenfoldizm | alright I'll try that |
| 04:15:57 | * | aliask loves console though :P |
| 04:17:13 | advcomp2019 | yea but i thought since he was having issues he could try different way |
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| 04:19:43 | sevenfoldizm | Ok, that worked. Thanks! Next problem though, haha |
| 04:19:45 | advcomp2019 | but still unmount like in the linux steps in the console |
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| 04:20:03 | sevenfoldizm | when I download the newest build of rockbox and unzip it the folder is empty |
| 04:23:45 | sevenfoldizm | shit... nevermind |
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| 04:28:04 | Lloreal | ?Will the Sansa Video Converter make rockbox compatable mpeg videos |
| 04:28:19 | sevenfoldizm | For some reason I can' find anything that's been unzipped. |
| 04:28:59 | sevenfoldizm | I wouldn't think so |
| 04:29:09 | chrisjs169 | Lloreal, no, but most other programs can |
| 04:29:20 | sevenfoldizm | The converter is only supposed to convert to that shitty uncompressed mpg format. |
| 04:29:52 | Lloreal | So theyre bigger than they need to be? And bad quality, I noticed. |
| 04:30:09 | chrisjs169 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 04:30:56 | chrisjs169 | Rockbox plays MPEG2, while the OF plays MJPEG |
| 04:31:06 | sevenfoldizm | Could someone tell me why I can't find or do anything with anything I unzip in Ubuntu live CD? |
| 04:31:19 | Lloreal | Boot your CD, silly. |
| 04:31:52 | sevenfoldizm | ? I'm on Ubuntu right now |
| 04:31:59 | Lloreal | Install ubuntu, you'll have better luck, instead of using your virtual drive. |
| 04:32:13 | sevenfoldizm | But I'm on the last step! |
| 04:32:24 | maxkelley | Lloreal == Llorean? |
| 04:32:30 | Lloreal | No. |
| 04:32:36 | Lloreal | The shampoo company |
| 04:32:40 | advcomp2019 | david, do not give advise |
| 04:32:42 | maxkelley | hehe, ok :P |
| 04:32:46 | chrisjs169 | maxkelley, Llorean wouldn't use the web client |
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| 04:33:03 | maxkelley | chrisjs169: I figured if he was away from home or something. |
| 04:33:24 | chrisjs169 | even so, he'd still have the cloak ;) |
| 04:33:28 | maxkelley | :) |
| 04:34:35 | advcomp2019 | sevenfoldizm, did you unzip the rockbox.zip for the e200 |
| 04:34:39 | sevenfoldizm | I think my extraction tool is evil. |
| 04:35:21 | sevenfoldizm | yes, I did that in the command prompt, it says it does it, but I can't seem to put anything on the player with the command prompt and I can't find the unzipped files |
| 04:37:46 | chrisjs169 | anyone know how the m200 port's coming? |
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| 04:41:57 | advcomp2019 | sevenfoldizm, did it unzip right with a .rockbox folder |
| 04:42:21 | sevenfoldizm | ok, i think i found the problem |
| 04:42:31 | advcomp2019 | o ok |
| 04:42:41 | sevenfoldizm | i think the "." in ".rockbox" makes the folder invisible |
| 04:42:50 | sevenfoldizm | because it says its there i just cant see it |
| 04:43:10 | Soap | correct |
| 04:43:17 | sevenfoldizm | ok well i did it then! |
| 04:43:28 | Soap | "hidden" being the term, if we are pedantic, not invisible. |
| 04:44:30 | sevenfoldizm | haha ok |
| 04:44:43 | sevenfoldizm | Just watching the player hoping to god it works |
| 04:45:25 | sevenfoldizm | Thank you all for your help!!!! |
| 04:45:30 | sevenfoldizm | I have rockbox working!!! |
| 04:45:47 | advcomp2019 | sevenfoldizm, check the OF |
| 04:46:17 | sevenfoldizm | ok, how do youu boot into it?? |
| 04:46:22 | maxkelley | is there progress on the Zune port? (curious) |
| 04:46:22 | sevenfoldizm | you* |
| 04:46:30 | maxkelley | chrisjs169: about the m200, it's barely coming. |
| 04:46:45 | maxkelley | like, we know the hardware in it, but nothing's been done. |
| 04:47:31 | sevenfoldizm | what button do you hold to boot into the OF |
| 04:47:41 | advcomp2019 | sevenfoldizm, you use the left button like it says in manual |
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| 04:47:53 | sevenfoldizm | ok, I didn't check, sorry. |
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| 04:48:43 | sevenfoldizm | Looks like I have the white screen fading problem. |
| 04:48:44 | sevenfoldizm | :( |
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| 04:48:58 | sevenfoldizm | Time to fix that |
| 04:49:50 | advcomp2019 | it will fade but then go into the OF |
| 04:50:10 | sevenfoldizm | How long will it fade? |
| 04:50:34 | advcomp2019 | around a sec or less |
| 04:50:44 | advcomp2019 | ceond |
| 04:50:53 | sevenfoldizm | Nope, it fades until I have to shut it down manually. |
| 04:50:53 | advcomp2019 | second* |
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| 04:51:26 | juanfgs | hello |
| 04:51:58 | advcomp2019 | ok so you did not do something right sevenfoldizm then |
| 04:52:17 | sevenfoldizm | Hmm, well it seems to be a common problem |
| 04:52:33 | sevenfoldizm | At least in the thread about dual booting in the forum |
| 04:53:12 | juanfgs | hello, I just wanted to ask if it's there any free firmware for SigmaTel MSCN (I know rockbox doesn't work on these) |
| 04:53:14 | advcomp2019 | well i got it to work on my e280r |
| 04:53:33 | juanfgs | (free as in speech of course) |
| 04:54:33 | sevenfoldizm | It seems to work for some people and not others. |
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| 04:56:49 | advcomp2019 | chrisjs169, scorche, and i got it to work right |
| 04:57:32 | advcomp2019 | i do not know if there is others |
| 04:58:09 | sevenfoldizm | What kind of scroll-wheel is on yours? Is it the plasticky or rubbery one? |
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| 05:00:07 | advcomp2019 | that is off the topic |
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| 05:01:21 | sevenfoldizm | not quite. There are two different e200rs, its doubtful but maybe that could be the difference? |
| 05:03:43 | advcomp2019 | mine has the smooth wheel without the three notches ever so often |
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| 05:05:10 | sevenfoldizm | Mine is the loose plasticky one. Hmmm. While we would have to check with everyone who didn't get it to work and did to see if it holds true this could be the problem. Although its only a slim chance that it is. |
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| 05:06:08 | advcomp2019 | i think that does not make any differance tho |
| 05:06:32 | sevenfoldizm | True, its just a shot in the dark. |
| 05:07:04 | sevenfoldizm | I might retry it to see if I can get it to work, I'll probably just load the e200 firmware on first though. |
| 05:09:21 | advcomp2019 | try it again but still with the e200r |
| 05:12:01 | sevenfoldizm | ok I'll do the e200r steps again. |
| 05:12:12 | sevenfoldizm | If it works that's proof everyone's doing something wrong. |
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| 05:12:37 | advcomp2019 | plus sevenfoldizm are you sure you had an e200r |
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| 05:13:18 | advcomp2019 | have* |
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| 05:16:32 | sevenfoldizm | Yes, I am sure. It has the Rhapsody logo on back, I bought it from Best Buy, and it has Rhapsody Channels. |
| 05:17:20 | advcomp2019 | ok then most likely it is one then |
| 05:18:03 | sevenfoldizm | Yep. |
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| 05:21:35 | webguest28 | i'm trying to install rockbox on my ipod video, but the folder didn't show up when i extracted the files. what do i do? |
| 05:23:00 | advcomp2019 | webguest28, what os are you using |
| 05:23:28 | webguest28 | fedora core 7 |
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| 05:25:38 | advcomp2019 | what installer are you using |
| 05:27:29 | advcomp2019 | ipodpatcher or rockbox utility qt |
| 05:27:40 | webguest28 | ipodpatcher |
| 05:28:18 | advcomp2019 | could you try rockbox utility qt |
| 05:28:25 | webguest28 | sure |
| 05:28:55 | sevenfoldizm | hey advcomp, could you tell me how I'm supposed to install rockbox when it doesn't have usb support? |
| 05:28:59 | sevenfoldizm | reinstall* |
| 05:29:17 | advcomp2019 | here is the page if you need it webguest28 −−> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtilityQt |
| 05:30:50 | advcomp2019 | you can reinstall the e200r firmware by recovery mode sevenfoldizm |
| 05:32:36 | sevenfoldizm | I've done the first part, I can't do the second part because it won't boot up. |
| 05:33:02 | sevenfoldizm | It's getting late, I'm just gonna go with the e200 firmware and go to bed, and try the r firmware 2mro |
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| 05:38:59 | webguest28 | after i download the file, do i extract it to the ipod like i would with ipodpatcher? |
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| 05:39:28 | advcomp2019 | i am not sure since i do not have an ipod |
| 05:39:54 | kittyman | There is a program I am questioning for mpeg conversion, since the others wont work from the wiki. |
| 05:40:32 | kittyman | Who am I? |
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| 05:40:58 | advcomp2019 | kittyman, david, you can use google to find that can work |
| 05:42:39 | advcomp2019 | find one* |
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| 05:48:54 | stuporglue | Can anyone recommend a Linux music player that can manage songs on Rockbox as a USB Mass Storage device? |
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| 06:03:15 | qwm | the sun is rising! |
| 06:03:24 | qwm | i bet it has missed me. |
| 06:03:26 | qwm | :) |
| 06:07:32 | advcomp2019 | stuporglue, what rockbox player do you have |
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| 06:09:12 | ddalton | anyone here know vb script |
| 06:09:15 | ddalton | how it works? |
| 06:09:21 | ddalton | and maybe hta |
| 06:10:31 | aeroevan | is ogg/vorbis support currently broken? |
| 06:13:30 | aeroevan | or is -q5 vbr too high? |
| 06:25:37 | aeroevan | Data abort at 01F000E8 :( |
| 06:29:59 | stuporglue | advcomp2019: I have the current build −− r14691. I got it to work as a USB Mass Storage device with Banshee. I had to delete the Banshee iPod plugins though for it to not treat it as an iPod. |
| 06:32:39 | aeroevan | stuporglue: do you transcode to mp3? |
| 06:33:26 | stuporglue | aeroevan, no I don't, most of my library is mp3 but all the new stuff is ogg. |
| 06:34:37 | aeroevan | just installed rockbox on my old nano hoping to get ogg support |
| 06:34:57 | stuporglue | If anyone else wants to get Banshee to treat their rockbox iPod as a UMS device, see the 'Other Information' section of this Banshee bug : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477112 |
| 06:38:09 | stuporglue | I just threw some ogg files I downloaded from Jamendo.com on there, and they're working. I'm assuming it'll work on your nano too |
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| 06:40:05 | aeroevan | i'm getting some strange results, like playing in fastforward or just not playing at all |
| 06:40:53 | aeroevan | i'll look into it more later |
| 06:41:07 | aeroevan | gotta go move my car for a football game |
| 06:41:10 | stuporglue | Weird. This is the first time I've looked at Rockbox since the iPod version was announced...so I don't know what to say. My battery died soon after the announcement, and I only replaced it this week. |
| 06:41:18 | stuporglue | Have a good night |
| 06:41:43 | stuporglue | A big thanks to any devs that might be in here. I appreciate your work. Good night. |
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| 07:07:36 | SoulPropagation | Apparently, we can't do anti-aliased fonts. Why not? |
| 07:08:26 | mwc | So I tried installing RB (current SVN build) from build.rockbox.org. I followed the instructions exactly, and I have an actual .rockbox directory at the root level of the ipod |
| 07:08:33 | mwc | I booted it up the first time, it worked |
| 07:08:42 | mwc | it froze during DB init |
| 07:08:51 | mwc | so I rebooted it again, and am told the rockbox dir isn't there |
| 07:08:57 | SoulPropagation | restore and try again |
| 07:08:58 | mwc | and that the installation is incomplete |
| 07:09:09 | mwc | SoulPropagation, I've done it three times |
| 07:09:16 | mwc | same symptoms, every time |
| 07:09:22 | SoulPropagation | mwc: is the fonts dir there? |
| 07:10:22 | mwc | no, isn't there |
| 07:10:32 | mwc | (/.rockbox/fonts) |
| 07:10:40 | SoulPropagation | mwc: you gotta put it there |
| 07:11:13 | mwc | didn't see that in the installation guide |
| 07:11:19 | mwc | just mkdir, or do I need to put something in there |
| 07:11:29 | SoulPropagation | read the guide again |
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| 07:13:52 | mwc | done, same error |
| 07:14:16 | SoulPropagation | did you restore first? |
| 07:14:31 | mwc | like, from itunes? |
| 07:14:32 | mwc | no |
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| 07:18:56 | aliask | What are people's thoughts on FS #7764? |
| 07:19:34 | mwc | right, so I dd'd 100 MB of /dev/zero onto the ipod, copied the MBR over again, mkfs.dos -F32 -n IPOD the data partition |
| 07:19:43 | mwc | reinstalled rockbox.zip and rockbox-fonts.zip |
| 07:19:52 | mwc | and rebooted it, it seems to have worked the first time |
| 07:21:03 | mwc | nice, seems to have worked. Thanks SoulPropagation |
| 07:21:11 | SoulPropagation | mwc: no prob :D |
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| 07:38:50 | SoulPropagation | How do I do rapid scrolling on an iPod? |
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| 07:50:41 | ^JimmyRidge^ | speed up scroll speed ins ettings would do it, i think |
| 07:54:10 | SoulPropagation | No... like, I want to have a rapid scroll and then a precision scroll too |
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| 08:04:46 | aeroevan | what does the List Acceleration Speed change? |
| 08:04:57 | aeroevan | could that be what you are looking for? |
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| 08:06:21 | aeroevan | hmm |
| 08:06:34 | aeroevan | apparently -q5 is too much for my nano to handle |
| 08:07:01 | aeroevan | does anyone have a good encoding setting for ogg/vorbis? |
| 08:07:11 | aeroevan | does q4 work? |
| 08:08:27 | ^JimmyRidge^ | i traded an ipod for a smaller HD space ip just because it runs rockbox |
| 08:08:46 | ^JimmyRidge^ | and they think they got the better deal lol |
| 08:09:10 | ^JimmyRidge^ | i guess every1's happy so its all gravy |
| 08:10:05 | * | aeroevan guesses he will be reencoding his music |
| 08:10:15 | SoulPropagation | aeroevan: maybe, but I'm back to disassembling the ipod so I can get a better screen for it, long story |
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| 08:16:40 | serenecloud | can I please ask if anyone knows if/when there will be a rockbox version for 2nf Gen nanos? |
| 08:16:44 | serenecloud | *2nd |
| 08:17:01 | SoulPropagation | serenecloud: quite possibly never, since the firmware is encrypted |
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| 08:17:51 | serenecloud | SoulPropagation: :( |
| 08:18:14 | SoulPropagation | serenecloud: :( |
| 08:18:41 | serenecloud | it's a pity, it's such a nice peice of hardware too |
| 08:18:49 | ^JimmyRidge^ | can it realy be that hard to decrypt? |
| 08:19:15 | ^JimmyRidge^ | so what do we kno besides its encryption? |
| 08:19:41 | SoulPropagation | Don't ask me. |
| 08:19:43 | ^JimmyRidge^ | thought i read somewhere it also doesnt use a portalplayer chip |
| 08:19:46 | * | SoulPropagation goes all shifty-eyed |
| 08:20:21 | serenecloud | I know that the hardware is different, I wasn't aware of the encryption |
| 08:20:41 | serenecloud | i had assumed if I wait then a version would appear, but it didn't :( |
| 08:23:13 | SoulPropagation | serenecloud: I wouldn't be surprised if they figured something out... or if they didn't though. In the mean time... best of luck. |
| 08:23:52 | serenecloud | SoulPropagation: thanks, I guess I stick with their firmware and WinAmp |
| 08:24:01 | * | SoulPropagation node |
| 08:24:05 | * | SoulPropagation nods, I mea |
| 08:24:08 | * | SoulPropagation MEAN! |
| 08:24:14 | * | SoulPropagation can't type well at 1:24 am |
| 08:24:35 | serenecloud | :P |
| 08:24:36 | SoulPropagation | You can always customize the OF |
| 08:24:48 | serenecloud | OF? |
| 08:25:11 | SoulPropagation | Original firmware |
| 08:25:14 | SoulPropagation | aka iPod OS |
| 08:26:30 | serenecloud | how? |
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| 08:27:48 | SoulPropagation | serenecloud: don't ask me, I don't like ipods. I just fix the buggers for cash |
| 08:28:17 | serenecloud | awww, but it's nice and comfy here on the iPod bandwagon |
| 08:28:39 | serenecloud | actually I tried every damned MP3 player in the area before getting the nano, none were as good |
| 08:28:51 | DavidGWRawson | I think that 'Any Video Converter', the program, might work for the mpeg player on rockbox. |
| 08:29:38 | DavidGWRawson | It has an mpeg-I and mpeg-II setting. Which would work best for rockbox. |
| 08:30:05 | DavidGWRawson | *Which would work best for rockbox? |
| 08:30:28 | ^JimmyRidge^ | what speed CPU does the nano have |
| 08:30:44 | DavidGWRawson | I don't know. |
| 08:30:57 | ^JimmyRidge^ | cause dang i just started playing with rockbox on the nano... it totally rox compared to my old greyscale ipod |
| 08:31:14 | ^JimmyRidge^ | run doom practicly flawlessly |
| 08:31:26 | DavidGWRawson | Bad grammar. |
| 08:31:45 | DavidGWRawson | *Practicly flawless. |
| 08:32:01 | SoulPropagation | serenecloud: for the size and price at the time the nano came out the only thing that would stack up would be the zen v and sansa e200 series. The new "ZEN" is a good competitor to the 3g nano though |
| 08:32:15 | Llorean | ^JimmyRidge^: Except for the iPod 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation, all the iPods have basically the same speed CPU. |
| 08:32:16 | SoulPropagation | DavidGWRawson: *Practically |
| 08:32:35 | DavidGWRawson | Oh...so I mispelld. |
| 08:32:38 | ^JimmyRidge^ | i dont see any problems cept for that i forgot the s after run |
| 08:32:49 | Llorean | DavidGWRawson: MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 are both valid for Rockbox, take your pick, but we do suggest several known good methods in the wiki |
| 08:32:55 | SoulPropagation | Actually, it is "practically flawless". |
| 08:33:02 | serenecloud | ...I feel ripped off |
| 08:33:10 | serenecloud | i just downloaded the bible for iPod |
| 08:33:18 | serenecloud | and half of it is "buy the full version" |
| 08:33:22 | ^JimmyRidge^ | ugh |
| 08:33:32 | SoulPropagation | DavidGWRawson: If you're going to insist on being a grammar nazi the least you can do is get it right. |
| 08:33:41 | ^JimmyRidge^ | download phrack issues instead |
| 08:33:50 | Llorean | Guys, this is an on-topic channel |
| 08:33:54 | Llorean | Please keep it that way. |
| 08:34:08 | DavidGWRawson | I tried all methods on the wiki, but all the converters didn't work, either because they didn't read the custom preset, or it was because it wouldn't work right. |
| 08:34:32 | Llorean | DavidGWRawson: I assure you, all the methods in the wiki are capable of working if you do them right. |
| 08:34:38 | DavidGWRawson | I'm trying the MPEG-2 Setting right now. |
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| 08:36:43 | DavidGWRawson | Cool! All I need to do is set the resolution, it's zoomed in, and it's god bad framerate. It syncs and unsyncs. |
| 08:37:31 | DavidGWRawson | getting around 16 fps |
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| 08:40:08 | DavidGWRawson | It seems that wmv videos have support, but only for audio. |
| 08:41:18 | scorche | that is because rockbox supports wma... |
| 08:41:48 | DavidGWRawson | I meant wmv.... |
| 08:42:07 | scorche | which contains wma audio which is why rockbox plays it |
| 08:42:21 | Llorean | Yes, Rockbox plays "wmv" files as "wma" files, ignoring the V part. |
| 08:43:03 | DavidGWRawson | What is the potential of rockbox usb support? Maybe a USB mic setting? |
| 08:43:55 | Llorean | The USB stack needs to be finished, once that's done on targets that can host the limits are pretty much up to what people who want features code. |
| 08:44:05 | Llorean | Again, if you want something, the best way to get it is to code it. |
| 08:44:41 | DavidGWRawson | Well, I know how to modify the source code and compile it, so I might look forward to that. |
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| 08:46:27 | DavidGWRawson | Hmmmm. MPEG-I works better than MPEG-2, and I set the correct resolution. Works pretty good. |
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| 08:50:04 | DavidGWRawson | When my screen 'fades' and then goes to OF, does that damage my screen? |
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| 08:53:33 | Llorean | No. |
| 08:54:23 | in-jane | update to my problem with database: |
| 08:54:25 | DavidGWRawson | Why does it fade like that? Does it turn off the power to the LSD and it slowly fades? |
| 08:56:09 | DavidGWRawson | PERFECT VIDEO PLAYBACK. Turned down the video bitrate and works perfect. No sync or choppy video. |
| 08:56:26 | DavidGWRawson | sync problems* |
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| 08:57:08 | midkay | DavidGWRawson: you can configure the fading (the length of the fades or just disable it) in the display menu.. it's coded that way. it's just for nice appearance. |
| 08:58:24 | in-jane | let's say that i add album "X" to my e260. i can't find it from database even if i update it. but if i add album "Y" after that, i can see the album X on the database but now i can't find the album Y unless i add album "Z" :D. and so on... |
| 08:58:24 | DavidGWRawson | During the OF boot? |
| 08:58:35 | in-jane | any ideas what i'm doing wrong? |
| 08:59:20 | in-jane | if i try to initialize the database, it shows _only_ the last album that i have added. unles i initialize it again, then i see all albums except the last one |
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| 09:00:34 | Llorean | midkay: He's talking about something else, a color change fade. |
| 09:00:40 | Llorean | DavidGWRawson: He's thinking of the backlight fade. |
| 09:00:56 | midkay | i suspected it might not be that simple, sorry :) |
| 09:00:58 | Llorean | This fade is just an artifact on the e200, that may get fixed with time, but is pretty much irrelevant. |
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| 09:01:12 | DavidGWRawson | No, the lcd fade. Where it slowly fades white. |
| 09:01:26 | Llorean | in-jane: Try simply removing the database files and starting from scratch |
| 09:01:32 | DavidGWRawson | Say, it slowly fades white from the outside in. |
| 09:02:11 | scorche | midkay!@ |
| 09:02:20 | scorche | wqhoop[s |
| 09:02:46 | midkay | haha. scorche! |
| 09:05:35 | in-jane | Llorean: ok i'll try that, thanks :) |
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| 09:13:39 | DavidGWRawson | [quote] hello [/quote] |
| 09:13:54 | petur | moin |
| 09:15:24 | n1s | mornin |
| 09:16:14 | amiconn | mo0ning |
| 09:16:19 | markun | DavidGWRawson: I sometimes got such a fade during a hard crash |
| 09:16:38 | markun | it's just becuase the CPU isn't refreshing the TFT anymore |
| 09:18:57 | amiconn | This fading *might* be bad for the lcd panel, depending on how the panel is driven |
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| 09:21:57 | DavidGWRawson | When it tried booting the OF the unsuccessful way, it started to make the screen blotchy. |
| 09:22:19 | DavidGWRawson | There were discolored patches, like stains. |
| 09:23:15 | homielowe | I follow crosscompiler tutorial, under the step to build binutils I get "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables."(macosx) |
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| 09:33:25 | DavidGWRawson | Would flash based games for rockbox be cool. They would be very easy to develop in flash. Making it compatable would be tough though. |
| 09:34:19 | markun | DavidGWRawson: first port a flash player to rockbox |
| 09:35:33 | DavidGWRawson | That would be hard, but somewhat easy, in a way. It needs to be able to handle actionscript and needs to draw vector images. |
| 09:35:53 | DavidGWRawson | Not to mention setting up the buttons |
| 09:36:00 | Llorean | DavidGWRawson: Rather than talking about what it would need to do, why not work on it? |
| 09:36:12 | homielowe | Your dreaming in fantasy land, maybe head to #rockbox-community and discuss |
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| 09:43:01 | ddalton | who is Brian Wolven? |
| 09:43:35 | DavidGWRawson | Who is Linus? |
| 09:44:00 | ddalton | you asking me? |
| 09:44:12 | markun | DavidGWRawson: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LinusNielsenFeltzing |
| 09:45:07 | ddalton | markun: do you know who Brian Wolven is or do you have his contact details? |
| 09:45:12 | ddalton | email address |
| 09:45:22 | markun | ddalton: no, never heard of him |
| 09:45:32 | ddalton | has anyone? |
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| 09:46:09 | markun | ddalton: there is an email address here: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-09/0008.shtml |
| 09:46:56 | amiconn | ddalton: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BrianWolven |
| 09:47:18 | markun | amiconn: why didn't I think of that ;) |
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| 10:12:15 | ddalton | it says brian.wolven@gmailNO.SPAM.com should it be brian.wolven@gmail.com |
| 10:12:55 | n1s | ddalton: yep, also this channel is logged so please try not to type unobfuscated addresses here :-) |
| 10:13:27 | ddalton | ok sorry. But it is all over the website isn't it? |
| 10:13:40 | Bagder | no |
| 10:13:58 | Bagder | the mails are mostly obfuscated there too |
| 10:14:05 | Bagder | mail addresses I mean |
| 10:14:19 | ddalton | ok so what should I do? :-( |
| 10:14:44 | Bagder | do about what? |
| 10:14:59 | ddalton | what we're talking about! |
| 10:15:21 | Bagder | I don't know what we're talking about |
| 10:15:29 | pixelma | use the email address without the NO.SPAM as you found out but don't mention it here... |
| 10:16:02 | ddalton | can't you read the messages? :-) |
| 10:16:51 | Bagder | ddalton: apparently not |
| 10:17:18 | ddalton | well you usually scrol up in your history box. That's how I do it! |
| 10:17:32 | ddalton | anyway we were talking about the email address thing. |
| 10:17:34 | markun | Bagder: what do you think about editing this log to remove the email address? |
| 10:17:49 | Llorean | ddalton: Alright, here's what they're trying to say: Do not type full email addresses in this channel |
| 10:18:03 | Llorean | Because it is logged, email addresses written in this channel may get spam. |
| 10:18:08 | ddalton | my email is in there as well so you can remove that if you want but I don't know. I haven't got any spam |
| 10:18:12 | Llorean | The NO.SPAM that is added to them is to keep them from getting spam. |
| 10:18:29 | Llorean | When you use the email address, just remove the NO.SPAM before using it, but don't write it in here with that. |
| 10:19:04 | ddalton | so what are you guys going to do about me typing his address here. I didn't realise that I shouldn't have done this. Sorry... |
| 10:19:10 | Llorean | with that (NO.SPAM) removed, rather. |
| 10:19:18 | Llorean | We can't do anything about it now, but try to avoid it in the future. |
| 10:19:26 | ddalton | ok fine |
| 10:19:35 | pixelma | the NO.SPAM is there so that bots that search websites don't find it |
| 10:19:48 | DavidGWRawson | What about YES.SPAM? |
| 10:19:52 | ddalton | couldn't they write a script to remove that? |
| 10:20:08 | Bagder | sure they can |
| 10:20:11 | ddalton | if they were sirious about spamming? |
| 10:20:20 | ddalton | so what is the point of this method then? |
| 10:20:32 | Llorean | ddalton: anything a human can read, a script can be made to read. |
| 10:20:34 | Bagder | the email harvesters however will hunt around the entire internet, sucking down everything that looks like emails |
| 10:20:41 | Bagder | and then send mails to them |
| 10:20:56 | Bagder | they'll find enough real mails to not have to bother about the bad ones |
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| 10:21:32 | DavidGWRawson | Isn't this way way way off topic? |
| 10:22:00 | Bagder | not really, it describes why we do the way we do on the rockbox site and elsewhere |
| 10:22:07 | DavidGWRawson | davidgwrawson90@yahoo.com |
| 10:22:43 | DavidGWRawson | will I get spammed now? |
| 10:22:48 | amiconn | Llorean: I don't think that harvesting scripts would find email addresses obfuscated by really segemnting them, e.g. somebody at rockbox dot org |
| 10:22:52 | markun | Bagder: most of my spam at gmail is sent to marco.en so I guess they just try some words until they are lucky (as I never used that way of writing my address) |
| 10:23:00 | Bagder | DavidGWRawson: I'll assume you will |
| 10:23:08 | Bagder | indeed |
| 10:23:16 | Bagder | many spammers just try out combinations |
| 10:23:41 | Llorean | amiconn: Yeah, writing it as only words would make it a lot harder. My point was merely that a script *can* still be made to harvest it. Schemes just make it less likely it will be harvested, but can't *gaurantee* it won't. |
| 10:23:59 | in-jane | luckily gmail has a very very good spam filter. |
| 10:24:11 | Llorean | My yahoo address gets spammed all the time with a CC to addresses that are one letter different. |
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| 10:24:42 | Bagder | I don't like gmail's spam filter since it makes a little too many decisions on its own |
| 10:24:51 | markun | at least half of my spam is chinese :) |
| 10:24:59 | * | amiconn knows that spammers often just try out combinations @ known domains |
| 10:25:03 | stuporglue | I just registered for the Wiki. My name is Michael Moore, and I'm a new iPod G3 user. |
| 10:25:07 | * | amiconn is postmaster at work |
| 10:25:15 | stuporglue | Could I get write permissions/ |
| 10:25:15 | stuporglue | ? |
| 10:26:25 | Bagder | stuporglue: did you really create a twiki user account with that name? |
| 10:26:25 | markun | stuporglue: can't find you in the wiki.. |
| 10:26:29 | bluebrother | stuporglue: what is your wiki name? I can't find a MichaelMoore page |
| 10:26:34 | Bagder | ah now I see it coming |
| 10:26:46 | Bagder | just a slight delay |
| 10:27:00 | bluebrother | ah :) |
| 10:27:32 | stuporglue | Is the page loading? I just clicked the email confirmation link |
| 10:28:00 | Llorean | Bagder: Maybe we should sent out a mail asking if any contributors specifically intended for their code to be GPLv2 only? |
| 10:28:51 | bluebrother | stuporglue: done. Seems I was the fastest |
| 10:28:55 | stuporglue | :-) |
| 10:28:58 | ddalton | what about the email addresses in the tracker? |
| 10:29:09 | Bagder | Llorean: yes, I just want to see where the thread/discussion goes before jumping into that |
| 10:29:35 | Bagder | ddalton: they're not shown to visitors only, iirc |
| 10:29:46 | Llorean | Bagder: As it is, we're in the "right on a technicality" category for those people who don't respond, or don't get the email, and we can make a policy of a willingness to try to replace code for anyone confused by our mistake. |
| 10:30:20 | Bagder | yes, I agree to that |
| 10:30:48 | markun | so could we just make the code GPLv2 or higher in that case? |
| 10:31:10 | markun | or do we want to have the same discussion at GPLv4? |
| 10:31:13 | Llorean | That's my suggestion. Clarify the license to GPLv2 or Higher, apologize for the previous state, ask anyone if they'd like us to help in fixing any harm it may have caused. |
| 10:31:16 | Bagder | the clarification would probably mean to include that text in the boiler plate |
| 10:31:54 | Bagder | _then_ we can start throwing pies about actually switching to v3 ;-) |
| 10:32:24 | Llorean | Oh, we could do it by actually throwing pies. |
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| 10:32:29 | Bagder | btw, I found that the lkml people actually discussed rockbox in their v3 argument the other week |
| 10:32:35 | Llorean | Send a Pro-v2 a Pro-v3 and an arbitrator who doesn't care to the google conference. |
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| 10:32:42 | Llorean | Then let them throw pies, and have the arbitrator decide. |
| 10:32:56 | Llorean | Bagder: lkml? |
| 10:33:06 | Bagder | linux kernel mailing list |
| 10:33:06 | bluebrother | linux kernel mailing list |
| 10:33:11 | Llorean | Ah. |
| 10:33:14 | Bagder | http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/6/15/72 |
| 10:33:14 | Llorean | I'm bad with abbreviations. |
| 10:34:00 | Bagder | "the other week" being in June ;-) |
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| 10:45:06 | Bagder | ifixit posted ipod touch pics |
| 10:52:49 | amiconn | Whoa, heavy beast... |
| 10:54:06 | Bagder | for a flash player indeed |
| 10:54:34 | ddalton | I am running voicebox silently how can I tell when it is done? |
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| 11:13:01 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Good evening. |
| 11:13:09 | JdGordon | hey |
| 11:13:29 | linuxstb_ | Have you seen the e200r windows thread in the forum? |
| 11:13:49 | JdGordon | not yet |
| 11:17:35 | JdGordon | bah, slow forums :( |
| 11:19:09 | linuxstb_ | They're working fine for me... |
| 11:20:00 | * | JdGordon is impatient :p |
| 11:20:09 | JdGordon | that thread doesnt sound too promising |
| 11:21:24 | linuxstb_ | I see it as progress though. |
| 11:22:10 | markun | linuxstb_: do we have replaygain support for asf tags? |
| 11:22:23 | * | markun is actually using wma files :) |
| 11:22:24 | linuxstb_ | I don't think so. |
| 11:22:34 | linuxstb_ | Can any application create them? |
| 11:22:44 | markun | linuxstb_: I'll try foobar2000 |
| 11:23:17 | markun | "Could not write info (WMA tag editing not supported)" |
| 11:24:10 | JdGordon | linuxstb_: not much progress.... does libusb work under vmware? |
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| 11:32:37 | linuxstb_ | markun: It seems winamp supports it - the changelog for v5.3 states "* New: Replaygain support for MP3, AAC, Vorbis, M4A and WMA" |
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| 11:33:48 | linuxstb_ | markun: And from the foobar v0.9.4 changelog - " Added WMA tag editing support" |
| 11:36:30 | markun | linuxstb_: ah, need to update then :) |
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| 11:37:16 | JdGordon | flyspray down? |
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| 11:38:09 | linuxstb_ | Works for me. |
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| 11:38:19 | JdGordon | my net is stuffed then! |
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| 11:39:36 | maxkelley | I was listening to SW radio, and found a religious station, preaching about who knows what, and in the background from a neighboring station was this chanting, sounding like they were mindless humans.. very weird. |
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| 11:52:37 | jeeger | Hey, quick question: Does Rockbox read the id3v2 or the id3v1 tags? I guess it prefers id3v2, but I'm not sure. Any tips? |
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| 11:53:30 | pixelma | it reads both, you can set the preference (still). That is also somewhere in the manual... |
| 11:53:42 | jeeger | Ah |
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| 11:53:53 | jeeger | I'll look in the menu |
| 11:54:19 | pixelma | default is v2 first |
| 11:54:35 | jeeger | yep found it |
| 11:56:17 | jeeger | However, Rockbox still displays my tags in latin1 instead of in unicode. |
| 11:56:42 | n1s | jeeger: you have to select unicode as your codepage then |
| 11:59:05 | jeeger | Ah the playback screen now displays it correctly, but the database is still latin1. |
| 11:59:10 | jeeger | Do I need to update it? |
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| 12:20:38 | * | ddalton Thinks that espeak isn't that bad! It is better than the ms voices |
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| 12:26:39 | markun | ddalton: did you hear espeak with mbrola? |
| 12:26:58 | SofRaZorbacK | it's even better with mbora |
| 12:27:02 | SofRaZorbacK | mbrola |
| 12:27:13 | SofRaZorbacK | hello ddalton and all |
| 12:27:23 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK: hi |
| 12:27:57 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: it's relly better with this irc client |
| 12:27:59 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK: Do you want help with that translation. I got your last email |
| 12:28:43 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: gonna have a look at it now and try to apply it after having applied your patch |
| 12:28:45 | ddalton | can you read the history better? |
| 12:28:50 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: |
| 12:29:02 | SofRaZorbacK | yes the history window is awesome! |
| 12:29:04 | SofRaZorbacK | accessible |
| 12:29:12 | markun | SofRaZorbacK: blind as well? |
| 12:29:30 | SofRaZorbacK | markun: yes |
| 12:29:31 | ddalton | you don't apply anything. You apply my patch and then make changes manually. |
| 12:29:39 | ddalton | actually do apply one thing the patch |
| 12:29:39 | Llorean | Just as a reminder, this isn't a general purpose blind channel, it's for Rockbox. |
| 12:29:42 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: |
| 12:29:53 | SofRaZorbacK | in the lang file? |
| 12:30:15 | SofRaZorbacK | i thought i have to modified the .patch file first.... |
| 12:30:39 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK: no don't do that at all! it won't work! |
| 12:30:54 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: |
| 12:30:57 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 12:31:07 | ddalton | First apply the patch. Then you go in to your languages lang file and make the changes there. Tell me when you have done that |
| 12:31:13 | SofRaZorbacK | llorean: sory for the off topic |
| 12:31:27 | ddalton | Tell me when you are in your lang file and I will help you with the changes. |
| 12:31:30 | Llorean | SofRaZorbacK: Also, could you put the "ddalton:" on the same line as the message to him, rather than on the preceding one? |
| 12:31:55 | SofRaZorbacK | llorean: i'mm doing my best |
| 12:32:12 | SofRaZorbacK | but don't have auto completion apparently |
| 12:32:21 | Llorean | Just making sure you're aware of the channel guidelines. |
| 12:32:23 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: ok |
| 12:32:36 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK: hey I could maybe do it for you. I could just copy the vishual entries to the voice and get you to test it. Or do you want to try yourself? |
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| 12:33:26 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: non, gonna try myself and i'll ask you |
| 12:33:40 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: |
| 12:33:45 | ddalton | remember the patch file can be edited by hand but it is automatically generated. |
| 12:33:49 | SofRaZorbacK | whoops: ddalton: |
| 12:34:02 | ddalton | And I have never been able to edit one successfully. |
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| 12:34:16 | SofRaZorbacK | where do i put those trings in the lang file exactly? is there a right place |
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| 12:34:40 | ddalton | yes deffinetly. What revision are you working on? |
| 12:35:14 | SofRaZorbacK | according to the svn, it's 14598 |
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| 12:36:02 | ddalton | wow that's really old try svn revert -R . and then svn up You will lose all changes but then you can apply the patch. |
| 12:36:09 | ddalton | again |
| 12:36:41 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: have you a way to check the revision number ? |
| 12:36:50 | SofRaZorbacK | just for the sake of clarity |
| 12:37:06 | n1s | 'svn info' |
| 12:37:10 | ddalton | No but I always run svn up before I submit a patch. |
| 12:37:22 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 12:37:24 | bluebrother | or svnversion |
| 12:37:27 | ddalton | anyway we can just work on that don't worry about it |
| 12:38:09 | bluebrother | grrr. Why can't last.fm use gravatar? |
| 12:38:35 | ddalton | o there you go svn info and it tells me nls made the last change |
| 12:38:50 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK ok so you have applied the patch? |
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| 12:40:05 | ddalton | SofRaZorbacK: Are you still there? |
| 12:40:13 | SofRaZorbacK | not sure. svn revert -r semms not to work |
| 12:40:14 | SofRaZorbacK | semms |
| 12:40:18 | SofRaZorbacK | seems |
| 12:40:43 | SofRaZorbacK | missing argument: |
| 12:40:47 | ddalton | you typed it wrong "svn revert -R ." |
| 12:40:51 | ddalton | with out the quotes |
| 12:41:25 | ddalton | capital R or uppercase R and a . at the end |
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| 12:41:35 | SofRaZorbacK | yes it's ok |
| 12:41:42 | SofRaZorbacK | it's working |
| 12:41:49 | ddalton | try reading by character with your screenreader. |
| 12:41:53 | ddalton | Is that off topic? |
| 12:42:08 | SofRaZorbacK | ok for your patch |
| 12:42:13 | ddalton | now type svn up |
| 12:42:25 | ddalton | did you do svn up? |
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| 12:42:46 | SofRaZorbacK | from the root ? |
| 12:43:11 | ddalton | yeah you should be in ~/rockbox or what ever you checked out. |
| 12:43:19 | rixxon | any recommendations to someone wanting to buy a rockboxable device? |
| 12:43:23 | ddalton | so what ever the check out dir's name is |
| 12:43:25 | SofRaZorbacK | ok for the svn up |
| 12:43:31 | bluebrother | rixxon: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 12:43:38 | rixxon | thanks |
| 12:43:56 | ddalton | I might have a look at that. |
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| 12:44:17 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: do you need a file or something ? |
| 12:44:25 | SofRaZorbacK | sory... many stupid questions lol |
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| 12:44:36 | ddalton | file? What for? |
| 12:44:49 | SofRaZorbacK | you wanted to have a lool a it |
| 12:44:52 | SofRaZorbacK | look |
| 12:45:25 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: gotta go to lunch. I left the source untouched |
| 12:45:31 | SofRaZorbacK | i live |
| 12:45:34 | ddalton | it is just a wiki thing bluebrother was talking about. |
| 12:45:43 | SofRaZorbacK | so wie will continue later |
| 12:45:47 | ddalton | ok then |
| 12:46:16 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: thank you |
| 12:46:20 | SofRaZorbacK | bye all |
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| 12:46:35 | SofRaZorbacK | and sory for the off topics i'm new on irc (embarrased ) |
| 12:47:10 | Llorean | Rules and customs vary by channel, but this one is logged, and we like to keep the logs useful, readable, and searchable which is why many guidelines are in place. |
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| 12:50:59 | ddalton | is this true? $100 for a 2 gb e200 and $160 for 6 more gb (8 gb flash) |
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| 13:15:07 | ddalton | what players have LCD_BITMAP? |
| 13:16:00 | Domonoky | every player, except the archos player. it has LCD_Charcell |
| 13:17:39 | ddalton | ok thanks |
| 13:18:10 | delYsid | hi ddalton, what hardware do you have for rockbox? |
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| 13:19:34 | ddalton | what would the line prn(buf,1); do? |
| 13:19:59 | ddalton | Hi delYsid why? |
| 13:21:04 | Domonoky | ddalton: calling the function prn with buf and 1 as parameter, but i dont know what this function does.. :-) |
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| 13:23:58 | ddalton | delYsid : what do you mean? |
| 13:24:03 | ddalton | delYsid : around? |
| 13:26:04 | delYsid | ddalton: yeah, just wanted to know what type of hardware you are using rockbox with. |
| 13:26:29 | ddalton | so what player? |
| 13:26:34 | ddalton | is that what your asking? |
| 13:26:43 | delYsid | yes |
| 13:27:07 | ddalton | I am using a h300 mostly with speakers but sometimes ear phones. |
| 13:27:11 | ddalton | why do you ask? |
| 13:27:43 | delYsid | just trying to get an overview what people are using... |
| 13:28:03 | delYsid | here in .at the blind people I know that do use rockbox all use sansa e200 |
| 13:28:05 | ddalton | what do you use? |
| 13:28:59 | ddalton | did you see my last comment on your patch? (FS #7779) |
| 13:29:57 | * | Domonoky notes blined users, and requests again that some blind users try rbutil and tell us about the usability of rbutil for the blind... :-) |
| 13:30:27 | ddalton | why don't you developers try it with a demo of a screenreader?:-) |
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| 13:31:01 | delYsid | Domonoky: I would do that, but I am not on Windows, and on Linux rbutil doesnt work for us... |
| 13:31:04 | Domonoky | we already tryed it with a screenreader, and that works.. but its differen if you cant see anything i think... |
| 13:31:27 | ddalton | ok your right. Maybe later. |
| 13:31:43 | Domonoky | its just, that rbutil will get the official install method sometime, and we want it accessible for the blinds.. |
| 13:31:49 | delYsid | Domonoky: just turn off your monitor when doing testing, its that simple. |
| 13:32:04 | ddalton | delYsid: Can you talk to me in a pm about being blind and linux? what screenreader are you using? |
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| 13:33:52 | Llorean | delYsid: It's not quite that simple, since we can't judge usability compared to blind use of a computer in general. We're used to seeing things, so *any* blind application use will feel awkward. |
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| 13:34:42 | * | ddalton Is still waiting for his build to compile! |
| 13:35:22 | delYsid | Llorean: Granted, its a new way of doing things, but turning off the monitor and relying on keybindings and speech feedback only can give you a very nice view of whats achievable and whats not. |
| 13:35:59 | bluebrother | delYsid: I disagree that "just turning off the monitor" is a good solution. Blind people are used to different ways of using, and f.e. I find screen readers hard to understand. |
| 13:36:02 | ddalton | if you can understand the speech then what's wrong with it. Slow it down if you need to :) |
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| 13:36:24 | ddalton | do you? What synth? |
| 13:36:30 | delYsid | some programs have features that are mouse only for instance which the programmer would have never thought of as a problem, until they have to invoke it themselves without a mouse :-) |
| 13:36:56 | senab | regarding the usb stack in svn, what functionaltiy does it provide at the moment? |
| 13:37:29 | Llorean | senab: It shouldn't provide any actual functionality, I believe. |
| 13:37:49 | delYsid | One blind friend of mine is a big rockbox fan and windows screen reading expert (he works in that field). I'll ask him to give rbutil a shot on windows and report back to you guys. |
| 13:38:28 | Domonoky | delYsid: that nice.. thanxs.. |
| 13:38:56 | delYsid | Domonoky: is there a special (static, with accessibility) version he should try out? |
| 13:39:26 | Domonoky | the build on the wiki should be static and build with accessibility.. |
| 13:40:11 | delYsid | Domonoky: ok, I'll talk to him, will take a few days since he is pretty swamped with work all the time... |
| 13:40:51 | Domonoky | not problem, we arent in a hurry, as long as someone goes to take a look on it .. :-) |
| 13:42:40 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton r u stille there ? |
| 13:42:45 | ddalton | yep |
| 13:42:49 | SofRaZorbacK | k |
| 13:42:57 | ddalton | so what are you up to? |
| 13:43:00 | SofRaZorbacK | k so let's go on if u have time |
| 13:43:05 | ddalton | ok then |
| 13:43:11 | ddalton | so what are you up to? |
| 13:43:16 | ddalton | with it? |
| 13:43:29 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: i've done svn up |
| 13:43:55 | SofRaZorbacK | and my bash is waiting for commands |
| 13:44:12 | ddalton | ok now type patch -p0 <filename where filename is the name of my patch. |
| 13:44:33 | SofRaZorbacK | ok all hunk succeeeded |
| 13:44:46 | ddalton | good. Now your up to the translation. |
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| 13:44:56 | ddalton | open your lang file. (for your language) |
| 13:44:59 | SofRaZorbacK | so i go in my lang file |
| 13:45:07 | ddalton | what is your language? |
| 13:45:32 | ddalton | rockbox/apps/lang |
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| 13:45:39 | ddalton | that's where the lang files are |
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| 13:45:56 | SofRaZorbacK | francais.lang is open |
| 13:46:48 | ddalton | Now look for the alarm stuff. |
| 13:46:58 | ddalton | Try a find for "Alarm" and tell us what you get. |
| 13:47:04 | ddalton | with out the quotes |
| 13:47:11 | moos | SofRaZorbacK: what is the problem with the francais.lang? Did I miss something? |
| 13:47:27 | SofRaZorbacK | id: LANG_ALARM_MOD_ALARM_MENU |
| 13:47:39 | SofRaZorbacK | moos: no |
| 13:47:44 | ddalton | we're translating a patch. |
| 13:47:52 | SofRaZorbacK | just tring to apply a patch |
| 13:48:08 | moos | oh ok sorry, good luck ;) |
| 13:48:11 | ddalton | ok that sound like the entery for the alarm menu under system what is the voice string? |
| 13:48:16 | ddalton | say? |
| 13:48:45 | SofRaZorbacK | réveil in french (means alarm |
| 13:49:15 | SofRaZorbacK | ther's *none before that |
| 13:49:16 | ddalton | ok so it just says "Alarm" but in french? |
| 13:49:33 | SofRaZorbacK | alarm: "Réveil" |
| 13:50:06 | SofRaZorbacK | sory there's an accentuated letter |
| 13:50:18 | ddalton | where does it say that between the < voice and </voice lines? |
| 13:50:46 | SofRaZorbacK | <voice> |
| 13:50:51 | ddalton | wow voice file building on cygwin is fast. |
| 13:50:59 | ddalton | yep |
| 13:51:04 | SofRaZorbacK | arrggg : it says: alarm: "Réveil" |
| 13:51:17 | ddalton | ok so that is fine arrow down to you hear id: something. |
| 13:51:23 | ddalton | it will be in english |
| 13:51:26 | ddalton | the id line |
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| 13:51:42 | SofRaZorbacK | id: LANG_ALARM_WAKEUP_SCREEN |
| 13:52:13 | ddalton | Ok what does it say if you go down to lines? |
| 13:52:19 | ddalton | two that should be |
| 13:52:51 | SofRaZorbacK | there's the source section "alarm wake up scrren |
| 13:53:42 | SofRaZorbacK | sory i's hard to be clear |
| 13:53:56 | SofRaZorbacK | but all the following section seem to be welle translated |
| 13:54:12 | ddalton | ok arrow down to the next id |
| 13:54:27 | ddalton | I am just testing my build be back in a minute. |
| 13:54:33 | SofRaZorbacK | id: LANG_ALARM_MOD_TIME |
| 13:54:58 | ddalton | in the source part what is that in english? |
| 13:55:06 | SofRaZorbacK | this time, no string in voice noting between quotes |
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| 13:55:45 | SofRaZorbacK | moos: you are the french translater ? |
| 13:56:21 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: yes in the source part it'e in english |
| 13:56:23 | moos | SofRaZorbacK: yes I am, can I help? |
| 13:56:46 | SofRaZorbacK | moos: not for the moment, butr i may be interesting to talk together one day |
| 13:57:08 | moos | no problem, in pm for french ;) |
| 13:57:18 | ddalton | let me open it hang on. but that sounds right. |
| 13:57:19 | SofRaZorbacK | moos: oK |
| 13:57:29 | ddalton | ok its open |
| 13:57:45 | SofRaZorbacK | what is opens? |
| 13:58:06 | SofRaZorbacK | ho ok |
| 13:58:23 | ddalton | are you in id: LANG_ALARM_MOD_TIME |
| 13:58:30 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: yes |
| 13:58:35 | n1s | Yay, disabling the asm optimisations in the pcf driver makes rockbox work nicely when built with gcc4.3 :-) |
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| 13:59:20 | ddalton | ok now how would you say "Alarm time"? |
| 13:59:35 | SofRaZorbacK | heure du reveil |
| 13:59:38 | SofRaZorbacK | :) |
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| 14:00:18 | ddalton | now where it says alarm: "" type between the quotes what you just said. |
| 14:00:24 | ddalton | Do this in the voice section. |
| 14:00:50 | SofRaZorbacK | it's ok |
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| 14:01:46 | ddalton | is that done? |
| 14:01:53 | Pro | hi |
| 14:02:00 | SofRaZorbacK | it's done |
| 14:02:21 | SofRaZorbacK | i do the same in time to go |
| 14:02:24 | SofRaZorbacK | ? |
| 14:02:26 | ddalton | wait I am checking the scores be back in a minute |
| 14:03:50 | ddalton | ok now do the same for all of them. |
| 14:04:02 | SofRaZorbacK | k |
| 14:04:28 | ddalton | so fill in the voice strings between alarm: "" so between the quotes |
| 14:04:54 | ddalton | I don't think all the strings are used but it doesn't really matter. There might be one that isn't used. |
| 14:05:06 | ddalton | Can you tell me when you have done all of them? |
| 14:05:08 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton: what do i do with te "%d:%02d" |
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| 14:05:49 | ddalton | also when there are strings not related to alarm you are done. So keep arrowing down until you get to something that isn't about an alarm and then you are done. but there is more to do. |
| 14:05:50 | SofRaZorbacK | is the %d:%02d" voiced ? |
| 14:05:57 | ddalton | no. |
| 14:06:18 | ddalton | I voice a number instead. which is coded in the source so it is already done for you. |
| 14:06:18 | SofRaZorbacK | so i skip that ? |
| 14:06:29 | SofRaZorbacK | or i just put the text without the placeholder ? |
| 14:06:43 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 14:06:48 | ddalton | yep what you said last just the text no %d or anything. |
| 14:07:08 | ddalton | the text is though so make sure you do that. |
| 14:07:14 | ddalton | what player are you using? |
| 14:07:30 | SofRaZorbacK | i'm using a sansa and an iaudio |
| 14:07:43 | ddalton | do they have wake up rtcs? |
| 14:08:29 | SofRaZorbacK | rtcs ? |
| 14:08:54 | jbit | real time clocks |
| 14:10:15 | SofRaZorbacK | it's ok for all the alarms stuff |
| 14:10:33 | SofRaZorbacK | yes for the rtcs then |
| 14:10:42 | ddalton | ok have you done all of that yet? |
| 14:10:53 | SofRaZorbacK | yes it's done ddalton |
| 14:11:10 | ddalton | save your lang file and open cygwin. |
| 14:11:15 | SofRaZorbacK | i'm in bookmark so i dont touch taht |
| 14:11:23 | ddalton | or are you using a text editor in cygwin? |
| 14:11:46 | ddalton | so have you saved it and closed it? |
| 14:11:50 | SofRaZorbacK | i double check hold on |
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| 14:13:12 | SofRaZorbacK | ok cygwin open |
| 14:13:20 | Pro | do i need bmp resize patch in order to make the album art patch work??? |
| 14:13:22 | ddalton | cd to your tree. |
| 14:13:27 | ddalton | your source tree |
| 14:13:41 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 14:13:46 | SofRaZorbacK | here i am |
| 14:13:49 | ddalton | now create a diff |
| 14:14:06 | SofRaZorbacK | remind me the syntax plz ? |
| 14:14:21 | ddalton | svn diff >patchfile |
| 14:15:15 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 14:15:20 | SofRaZorbacK | appraently no error |
| 14:15:40 | ddalton | now go into your source and open patchfile with a text editor. |
| 14:16:16 | SofRaZorbacK | wow cool |
| 14:16:20 | SofRaZorbacK | sound corect |
| 14:16:38 | ddalton | how many lines is it close to 100 or 1000 |
| 14:17:54 | ddalton | have you got it open? |
| 14:17:58 | SofRaZorbacK | think is close to 100 |
| 14:18:08 | ddalton | ok can you send it to me? |
| 14:18:19 | SofRaZorbacK | can we send via irc ? |
| 14:18:25 | SofRaZorbacK | ... what a newbie ... lol |
| 14:18:29 | ddalton | no email |
| 14:18:33 | SofRaZorbacK | ok |
| 14:20:13 | SofRaZorbacK | u will got it very soon |
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| 14:20:54 | SofRaZorbacK | things are different when we do it with the good persons lol |
| 14:21:43 | ddalton | what does Le message est prêt à être envoyé avec le fichier suivant ou les liens joints : talking-alarm-fr.diff mean? |
| 14:21:43 | AceNik | guys there seems to be a lot of irregularities that keep on increasing with every build of rockbox on the h10 [20GB], according to me , the h10[20GB] should be removed fromt he builds page till its stable again |
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| 14:22:16 | AceNik | anyone care to know why?, just ask |
| 14:22:25 | SofRaZorbacK | the message has been sent with the attached links or files |
| 14:22:59 | web-taz | at flyspray, is there something where you can see, which patches are needed, in order to user another patch? |
| 14:23:09 | ddalton | ok then now build rockbox and make your french voice file. Then tell me if it works so test it. |
| 14:23:25 | SofRaZorbacK | ok ddalton it will take some time. |
| 14:23:33 | ddalton | I am just going to strip down the patch and if it works submit it to the tracker and say it was by you is that ok? |
| 14:23:36 | SofRaZorbacK | thx for your time, i comme back |
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| 14:23:52 | bluebrother | web-taz: check the "Related tasks" tab. |
| 14:24:14 | SofRaZorbacK | by u and me lol |
| 14:24:34 | ddalton | its by u I will just say requires p7682 |
| 14:25:00 | web-taz | ah, and when some tasks are slashed they're in the source code ? |
| 14:25:13 | AceNik | guys anyone there for the h10[20GB] |
| 14:25:24 | bluebrother | not necessarily. When they are striked through they are closed. |
| 14:25:49 | bluebrother | and there is no requirement that related list is complete −− someone needs to fill in the tasks, and it's not always used. |
| 14:25:52 | SofRaZorbacK | it's compiling now |
| 14:26:33 | SofRaZorbacK | and is there a way to merge all that stuff in one simple patch ? |
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| 14:27:33 | SofRaZorbacK | ddalton |
| 14:27:50 | SofRaZorbacK | sory |
| 14:28:03 | ddalton | Ok I will upload it and can you test that hang on |
| 14:28:18 | AceNik | identify /ns tomcat5 |
| 14:28:50 | SofRaZorbacK | after having built the voice file no problem |
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| 14:31:09 | senab | llorean: i've put some new keymapping for the e200. See what you think... FS #7232 |
| 14:31:50 | Llorean | senab: I don't like it. Being left-handed, I don't like "normal" functions to be on the power button. |
| 14:31:59 | senab | i'm left handed too |
| 14:32:08 | Llorean | Well, my thumb doesn't bend the way yours does then |
| 14:32:41 | JdGordon | .. being left handed, do you hold your sansa in your right hand? |
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| 14:33:05 | senab | hmmm, i use both hands to be honest |
| 14:33:07 | Llorean | JdGordon: No, my left, making the power button well below the joint in my thumb. |
| 14:33:27 | senab | the power button isn't used for anything other then turning the sansa off |
| 14:33:39 | JdGordon | ok, wierd... maybe its because im at the computer, but I just picked mine up in my left hand and started playing, not my right |
| 14:33:43 | | Part pixelma |
| 14:33:46 | Llorean | senab: But the other goal with that patch was to unify controls a little more. If something does X in the WPS and Y in the menu on player A, the button that does X in the WPS should do Y in the menu on player B unless there's a really good reason contrary to that. |
| 14:34:11 | Llorean | senab: And stopping playback in the WPS. I treated it as the "Stop/Power" button is on many other players. |
| 14:34:13 | senab | all i've done is moved the menu to the bottom button, and moved the context menu to holding the select |
| 14:34:19 | Llorean | Err, not necessarily *many*, but others. |
| 14:34:38 | Llorean | senab: I thought your patch left "Menu" on the power button.. |
| 14:34:48 | senab | nope |
| 14:35:05 | Llorean | What's this then: + { ACTION_STD_MENU, BUTTON_POWER|BUTTON_REL, BUTTON_POWER }, |
| 14:35:51 | senab | damn, it's cus i've done a diff the wrong way round |
| 14:36:00 | senab | should be the opposite way |
| 14:36:20 | Llorean | I was thinking it looked an awful lot like a second patch to undo some of my changes. ;) |
| 14:36:27 | ddalton | I have to go but try http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7784 |
| 14:36:40 | ddalton | I just uploaded the translation stuff. |
| 14:36:50 | ddalton | got to go |
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| 14:36:53 | Llorean | senab: But as I said, a decent part of my patch is based on that "other goal" of trying to keep it consistent between targets whenever the physical controls don't make it silly/impractical not to. |
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| 14:40:08 | AceNik | hey the state of the h10[20 GB] has detoriated to a very bad state, there are random hang ups while playing music or even starting up, try opening any .wps with text editor, it hangs |
| 14:40:56 | Llorean | AceNik: Is there any bug report documenting which revision this began with, how to duplicate, etc? |
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| 14:42:07 | AceNik | llorean: no, but i can say a few hang up existed since 145XX, & since then things just keep getting worse |
| 14:42:11 | senab | just fixed the patch |
| 14:42:26 | Llorean | AceNik: So, why not properly document the bug and file a bug report? |
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| 14:43:26 | AceNik | well i dont know how to reproduce it , n not sure which svn revision caused it ? |
| 14:43:44 | Llorean | That's why you *investigate* |
| 14:44:15 | Llorean | Figure out how to force it to happen, the test older revisions until you can't make it happen, then use that revision for a while and see if it happens in other conditions or not, etc. |
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| 14:52:24 | web-taz | little question: |
| 14:52:37 | web-taz | i tried applying some patches, |
| 14:52:40 | web-taz | but with some |
| 14:52:50 | web-taz | he always asked: File to Patch |
| 14:53:09 | web-taz | but the path and file showed above seemed to be the right |
| 14:53:54 | web-taz | how can I fix that, so that i needn't to type the path for every used file |
| 14:53:54 | web-taz | ? |
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| 15:02:25 | AceNik | guys http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7785 |
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| 15:10:48 | web-taz | other question |
| 15:10:59 | web-taz | is there a way to copy and paste into a shell? |
| 15:12:17 | n1s | web-taz: if you provide the correct -p option so that patch knows how to read the paths you wont have to type in the paths |
| 15:12:53 | SofRaZorbacK | whoops |
| 15:13:00 | n1s | web-taz: Ctrl+Shift+V works for pasting into the shell for me but this is getting offtopic |
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| 15:16:46 | theclaw | hi there |
| 15:17:07 | theclaw | when it says that the sandisk sansa e200 is supported, it means that all sansa e2XX-models are supported? |
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| 15:18:59 | JdGordon | theclaw: yes |
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| 15:19:47 | theclaw | thanks |
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| 15:27:30 | web-taz | n1s -> and how can i abort the patching? to choose another -p option?; and strg + v does not fit in the shells of the vmware compiling platform.. |
| 15:29:59 | Domonoky | web-taz: abort with ctrl+c |
| 15:30:32 | Domonoky | and to copy-paste from windows to the vmware, you have to use the vmware-tools somehow.. |
| 15:33:56 | theclaw | what does "usb handling" support mean? |
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| 15:34:15 | theclaw | when its not supported, i can't access the device using USB? |
| 15:34:20 | theclaw | (with rockbox) |
| 15:34:33 | JdGordon | yes |
| 15:34:42 | JdGordon | for the sansa you hae to boot into the OF to use usb |
| 15:37:29 | theclaw | does the OF support UMSC or are there some models which only support this (damn) MTP? |
| 15:37:57 | JdGordon | mtp and ums |
| 15:38:12 | theclaw | okay, good |
| 15:38:16 | JdGordon | you need to use ums for rockbox |
| 15:38:51 | theclaw | just curious: when transfering files via MTP to the player with the OF, they don't show up when using rockbox? |
| 15:39:05 | * | JdGordon never done that so wouldnt know |
| 15:39:21 | JdGordon | they probably are, but youd have to use the database to view them (like itunes and ipod) |
| 15:39:38 | JdGordon | you cant install rockbox in mtp mode i pretty sure |
| 15:39:41 | theclaw | hm okay |
| 15:39:52 | theclaw | i'm happy that ums is still supported |
| 15:40:01 | theclaw | there are some players which don't support ums at all :( |
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| 15:48:10 | theclaw | JdGordon: as you own one, how is the audio quality using rockbox? as good as using the original firmware? |
| 15:48:49 | JdGordon | my ears are shot.. so i wouldnt notice the difference |
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| 15:49:01 | JdGordon | ... if there is a diffeerence |
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| 15:52:26 | theclaw | okay |
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| 16:02:21 | web-taz | when I patch, and he does say 1 Hunk of 1 failed (bmpresize.patch) means this the hole patch didnt change anything? |
| 16:03:16 | bluebrother | does anyone know a commandline tool to strip images from id3 tags? |
| 16:08:20 | n1s | web-taz: yup |
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| 16:14:11 | web-taz | mhh |
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| 16:14:22 | web-taz | and what could I do in that case? |
| 16:14:33 | web-taz | has the patch to synced? |
| 16:14:49 | SofRaZorbacK | does the sansa player have rtcs? i'm not so sure finally |
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| 16:15:49 | SofRaZorbacK | no idea ? |
| 16:15:53 | SofRaZorbacK | :) |
| 16:16:29 | web-taz | <−− has none |
| 16:16:53 | Llorean | SofRaZorbacK: What do you mean by "rtcs"? I would guess Real Time Clock, normally, but I don't know what the S is for? |
| 16:18:15 | web-taz | syncing? |
| 16:18:23 | web-taz | doesnt make much sense |
| 16:19:01 | SofRaZorbacK | yes i just want to know if there's an alarm on this player. sory for my mistakes in terminology |
| 16:19:44 | Llorean | It has a real time clock, I don't know if it can have alarm functionality. |
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| 16:20:05 | SofRaZorbacK | and waht about the x5? do you know ? |
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| 16:20:23 | SofRaZorbacK | just wanted to apply a patch to test but ... |
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| 16:22:54 | Llorean | I don't know about the X5. |
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| 16:55:49 | Pro | where can i get a compiled rockbox with albumart??? |
| 16:56:06 | dionoea | on the forums |
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| 16:56:18 | dionoea | in the unsupported builds category |
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| 17:00:47 | Pro | the latest build for the H300 is from march 2007 |
| 17:02:00 | bluebrother | so what? As the forums name tells these are unsupported builds |
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| 17:02:34 | linuxstb_ | Pro: For iriver unsupported builds, you may have more luck at the misticriver forums. |
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| 17:18:34 | sevenfoldizm | Could someone tell me why when I try to turn my e200r into an e200 so I can dual-boot rockbox but when I do it it says "Load main image failed" |
| 17:20:12 | linuxstb_ | What exactly have you done so far? |
| 17:21:16 | sevenfoldizm | I recovered the bootloader and then I drag the firmware in, eject, restart and it gives me that message. |
| 17:22:40 | linuxstb_ | What do you mean by "recovered the bootloader" ? |
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| 17:29:40 | lazka | I'm having a problem.. since about one week my sansa e200 display is some kind of flickering.. even in the OF. is it possible that RB changed some registers or is it a hardware defect? |
| 17:30:54 | lazka | (like everything, i dropped it quite a few times.. :P) |
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| 17:32:44 | linuxstb_ | lazka: It's probably worth uninstalling Rockbox and seeing if the problem remains. |
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| 17:40:57 | n1s | Slasheri: ping |
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| 17:44:38 | * | Domonoky has his first testplugin running in rbutilqt :-) |
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| 17:57:12 | bluebrother | cool :) |
| 17:57:45 | bluebrother | I always wanted to look into plugins but got stuck at the usb pid stuff :o+ |
| 17:58:07 | bluebrother | how does it work? By adding a new tab? |
| 17:58:16 | Domonoky | it relativly easy.. |
| 17:58:51 | Domonoky | you have to define a interface for function allowd for the plugin, my tesplugin just gets a own tab.. |
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| 18:03:54 | lazka | linuxstb: do you mean uninstalling the bootloader? |
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| 18:04:55 | lazka | it's even in the sansa boot splash.. and it reproducible stops at mounting and databasupdate in the OF.. that's weird. |
| 18:05:52 | Llorean | lazka: If it's in the Sansa Boot Splash, then it's before Rockbox runs any code. |
| 18:06:11 | lazka | damn it |
| 18:06:14 | Llorean | But you should still try uninstalling the bootloader, then doing a hard power off (holding the power button for 15+ seconds) |
| 18:06:29 | Llorean | But considering you admit to dropping it several times, odds are in favour of that being the cause, I think |
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| 18:26:24 | n1s | Slasheri: I think I found a bug in tagcache.c, line 1558, get_tag_numeric() is called to get tag_virt_autoscore out of entry->tag_seek[] but tag_virt_autoscore is larger than TAG_COUNT, see tagcache.h line 32 while tag_seek is an array with TAG_COUNT elements so we try to read memory from outside the array... |
| 18:31:38 | Slasheri | n1s: hmm, that's clearly a bug, thanks. I will look into that soon, unless you have a fix already :) |
| 18:36:06 | Slasheri | just an extra call to check_virtual_tags() should do it |
| 18:37:36 | Slasheri | n1s: i will test and commit a fix |
| 18:38:15 | n1s | Slasheri: As I'm not very familiar with the tagcache code I'm not sure how to fix it really |
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| 18:38:53 | Slasheri | well, i already fixed that, now testing. nice you found it :) |
| 18:40:07 | lazka | Llorean: hm, ok i guess it's kinda broken... but i can live with it. the only funny thing is the reproducible way to get it back working again. do you know a way to make some kind of software reset with linux? |
| 18:40:18 | n1s | It was actually a new warning introduced in gcc4.3 that got triggered, so I had a look :-) |
| 18:40:49 | Slasheri | oh, gcc has gotten that smart? :) |
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| 18:47:57 | My_Sic | hie everyone |
| 18:48:18 | My_Sic | where i can find a rockbox build with the calendar patch for my ipod 5G ? |
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| 18:48:55 | Llorean | My_Sic: The answer to that, as always, is "Search the unsupported build forum" |
| 18:49:00 | Llorean | Or build it yourself. |
| 18:49:38 | My_Sic | i actually can't do it my self, and in the unsupported build thay have nothing. I suppose i have to wait ... |
| 18:49:58 | Llorean | Yes, you will. |
| 18:55:15 | n1s | anyone against the feature request in FS #7783 to disable wrapping of the lists for bass and treble settings? |
| 18:55:44 | linuxstb_ | n1s: That wrapping keeps being introduced and removed, then re-introduced... |
| 18:55:44 | Llorean | Seems fine to me. |
| 18:55:57 | Llorean | linuxstb_: The bass/treble wrapping? |
| 18:56:07 | * | Llorean wonders when anyone ever needs to go from max to min, or vice versa. |
| 18:56:25 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: Yes. I'm sure it never used to wrap |
| 18:56:44 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Maybe it's accidental. Perhaps with the introduction of SW Bass/Treble? |
| 18:57:02 | Llorean | The feature request mentions a range of +24 to -24, which doesn't sound like the hardware ranges |
| 18:57:06 | linuxstb_ | More likely when it when to a long list of integers |
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| 18:57:15 | linuxstb_ | ^went to |
| 18:57:49 | linuxstb_ | But anyway, yes I would agree with the feature request. |
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| 18:59:05 | n1s | so the only question is: should I try to add a flag in macro hell or expand the slightly hacky way it's done for volume int option_select.c ? |
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| 19:01:16 | Llorean | I guess that kinda depends on whether there are (or are likely to be) many lists we don't want to wrap? |
| 19:01:21 | linuxstb_ | n1s: Ouch, that option_select.c hack isn't nice..., |
| 19:01:55 | n1s | linuxstb_: I agree, I guess I'll try the macro hell way ;-) |
| 19:02:09 | Llorean | n1s: Will that allow you to remove the nasty hack too? |
| 19:03:20 | n1s | Llorean: I hope so |
| 19:04:15 | linuxstb_ | n1s: Good luck in there. |
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| 19:14:02 | Llorean | scorche: The newer version of the firmware may tell Windows that .mi4 files are not allowed to be synced though, I believe MTP lets a device list what extensions / file types it'll accept |
| 19:14:55 | scorche | Llorean: yes, it may, but then again, this may work as well...we shall wait for his response |
| 19:15:02 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 19:15:32 | Llorean | I wouldn't be surprised if the newer version of the Sansa firmware won't allow copying of MI4 files except by the sansa updater program, or some such, though. |
| 19:16:22 | scorche | maybe that has something to do with dual-boot issues....but then again, that means they wouldnt have rockbox on the device at *all* |
| 19:16:55 | Llorean | We shall see |
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| 19:26:41 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: Any chance of changing the title to this topic? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12726.0 In the UK at least, it's quite offensive. |
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| 19:28:16 | scorche | hrm...i didnt know that term had those kind of connotations across the pond |
| 19:28:28 | scorche | linuxstb_: you should be able to edit it , though |
| 19:28:57 | * | Llorean did it. |
| 19:29:47 | linuxstb_ | Thanks. |
| 19:29:50 | iamben | what, scrolling? |
| 19:29:58 | scorche | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic |
| 19:30:05 | Llorean | I'm off to lunch now |
| 19:30:38 | iamben | oh nm i see the old title |
| 19:31:04 | iamben | i thought maybe scrolling was some new sex thing |
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| 19:37:50 | senab | has anyone been able to test out FS #7232? |
| 19:38:20 | senab | after some use, i find it 100% better |
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| 19:40:39 | iamben | im gonna try it out myself, i do find the current keymap less than perfect at time |
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| 19:41:35 | senab | i find the original patch (Llorean's) a bit clumsy though, i keep stopping the music by leaning on the power button |
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| 19:42:25 | shortnek | anyone around? |
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| 19:42:58 | shortnek | will i lose the ability to play any music on my ipod if i try rock? |
| 19:43:10 | iamben | i keep my sansa in my cupholder in my car, sometimes the record button gets pushed accidentally... need to find a way to disable that |
| 19:43:16 | desowin | shortnek: don't think so |
| 19:43:20 | shortnek | think? |
| 19:43:38 | senab | shortnek: depends on how you transfer the music |
| 19:43:38 | shortnek | lol. I have many formats on the device at the moment so don't want the ability to play. |
| 19:43:43 | shortnek | i was using itunes |
| 19:43:54 | senab | if you use itunes then you'll be fine |
| 19:44:01 | shortnek | thx |
| 19:44:16 | desowin | if you have any DRM tracks, then those won't play |
| 19:44:21 | shortnek | ah |
| 19:44:33 | shortnek | drm are typical with itunes downloads, correct? |
| 19:44:34 | desowin | but otherwise - rockbox supports much more formats than original Apple Firmware |
| 19:44:38 | senab | also make sure you use the database and not file-tree browsing |
| 19:45:01 | n1s | shortnek: yup most tracks from iTMS are drm encrypted |
| 19:45:02 | shortnek | so anything drm won't play anymore. |
| 19:45:11 | shortnek | gotcha. |
| 19:45:19 | shortnek | converts out there? |
| 19:45:26 | n1s | shortnek: well, they'll still play in your OF |
| 19:45:36 | shortnek | of? |
| 19:45:46 | n1s | Original Firmware |
| 19:46:04 | shortnek | so if i go back to the ipod firmware they will play |
| 19:46:13 | senab | yep |
| 19:46:14 | shortnek | but not in RB |
| 19:46:16 | desowin | you can dual-boot ;-) |
| 19:46:32 | shortnek | :) |
| 19:46:36 | shortnek | i will try a dual boot |
| 19:46:38 | iamben | dual boot has to be one of rb's most badass features |
| 19:46:55 | iamben | people are still amazed when i tell them about my dual booting music player |
| 19:47:13 | shortnek | instuctions on dual boot in the manual |
| 19:47:29 | iamben | its dual boot by default |
| 19:47:40 | linuxstb_ | shortnek: The default install will be dual-boot. To start the OF, turn the hold switch on as you boot. |
| 19:47:42 | iamben | you just hold a certain button at boot time to get to OF |
| 19:48:06 | * | bluebrother points at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodFAQ |
| 19:48:16 | shortnek | thx |
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| 19:48:45 | derek | quick Q: what's WS stand for? |
| 19:48:53 | derek | oops i mean WPS |
| 19:49:04 | senab | does anyone know if using the pregain with RG make much difference to battery life? |
| 19:49:15 | senab | While Playing Screen |
| 19:49:21 | derek | ty |
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| 19:49:51 | n1s | senab: if you alraedy use RG it should make very little difference |
| 19:49:52 | shortnek | i saw the article on rb in pc mag this week. |
| 19:50:10 | linuxstb_ | senab: It uses a little bit more CPU, but I don't think anyone has measured it. |
| 19:50:28 | shortnek | big reason to use it is for flac and sound config? |
| 19:50:45 | n1s | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox |
| 19:51:07 | senab | thats what i was thinking. Need to boost the volume on my e280 a bit |
| 19:51:12 | linuxstb_ | shortnek: Everyone has their own reasons - either audio features, games, themability, accessibility (Rockbox talks)... |
| 19:51:35 | derek | themability? |
| 19:51:48 | linuxstb_ | http://www.rockbox-themes.org |
| 19:51:52 | shortnek | themes |
| 19:52:37 | shortnek | thanks for the guidance. i'll be back when all hell breaks loose |
| 19:52:55 | linuxstb_ | shortnek: Obviously after you've read the manual... ;) |
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| 19:54:41 | derek | under 'browse themes', these are wps's? or do they change system settings as well? |
| 19:54:45 | shortnek | of course |
| 19:54:46 | shortnek | :) |
| 19:55:04 | bluebrother | a theme is a collection of various settings. A wps is only the wps. |
| 19:55:12 | derek | i mean do they change anything other than colors? |
| 19:55:18 | derek | ah i c |
| 19:56:07 | senab | themes tend to change: wps, fonts, colours, backdrops, icons |
| 19:56:28 | senab | ...but can change anything |
| 19:56:57 | derek | so the fancy black shiny wps i see at the themes site is a single wps file? |
| 19:57:28 | bluebrother | no |
| 19:57:47 | bluebrother | it's a theme as it also requires you to select the matching colors, font etc. |
| 19:57:49 | senab | whats the theme called? |
| 19:58:16 | bluebrother | which is what the theme file does. The wps only affects what is displayed on the wps. It does not even include the font |
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| 19:58:48 | derek | ok. it's called HiMDforMe |
| 19:58:58 | derek | @ he wps gallery |
| 19:59:09 | derek | *the |
| 19:59:32 | derek | er no, thats the creator. its called icatcher |
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| 20:00:09 | senab | icatcher is included with rockbox, not sure what changes HiMDforMe has done to it |
| 20:00:51 | derek | ok, but for the sake of curiousity; unzipped, it's a wps file and a folder full of bmp's; where do these go? |
| 20:01:20 | webguest05 | when i try to go to the site irc.freenode.net to ask about ubuntu, a windows pops up asking for my username and password. Anyway to get around this |
| 20:01:46 | senab | derek: most wps's now are zipped so you just unzip them to the root of your player, they'll automatically go to the right folders |
| 20:01:52 | n1s | webguest05: what does that have to do with rockbox? |
| 20:01:56 | linuxstb_ | derek: They go into directories of the same name inside .rockbox |
| 20:02:55 | webguest05 | i'm trying to install it manually on my e200r since the auto-installer doesn't seem to be making much progress |
| 20:03:07 | bluebrother | webguest05: irc.freenode.net is the address of the irc server, not a web address −− and I doubt they run a www server at that address. |
| 20:03:36 | webguest05 | oh, okay |
| 20:03:52 | bluebrother | and you can't "ask" on a web server. You need an irc client. |
| 20:04:33 | scorche | webguest05: java.freenode.net |
| 20:05:51 | webguest05 | scorche: thanks, that's what i wa looking for |
| 20:05:57 | webguest05 | was* |
| 20:06:38 | linuxstb_ | webguest05: What auto-installer are you trying to use on the e200r? |
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| 20:30:11 | derek | what are the main differences/advantages between the 'current build' of RB and the latest 'daily builds' |
| 20:30:49 | Llorean | If you've installed a daily build and ask for support, you'll be told to test a current build. |
| 20:31:28 | Llorean | Current builds are newer most of the time, and at worst equal age, and if a bug lands in the daily build and gets fixed 5 minutes later, the daily build for the next 23:55 will still have that bug, while the current build won't. |
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| 20:32:09 | derek | so the build at build.rockbox.com changes daily? |
| 20:32:28 | Llorean | The daily build changes daily. |
| 20:32:31 | Llorean | That's what "daily" means. |
| 20:32:38 | Llorean | The current build changes every time a developer commits a change. |
| 20:32:54 | derek | so how often does the "current" build change? |
| 20:32:59 | derek | o ok |
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| 20:33:18 | Llorean | It even says so at the top of the current build page |
| 20:33:58 | derek | as clear as it may seem to you.. its confusing to me.. |
| 20:34:10 | derek | but i get it now. |
| 20:34:32 | shortnek | why does the manual i downloaded say"draft version" |
| 20:34:36 | bluebrother | we don't have "daily" builds anymore anyway. It's now the "archived" builds |
| 20:34:39 | Llorean | shortnek: Because it's a draft. |
| 20:34:43 | bluebrother | shortnek: because it's a draft? |
| 20:34:52 | shortnek | so it is always a draft? |
| 20:35:02 | Llorean | bluebrother: It still says "daily" on the current build page link |
| 20:35:21 | bluebrother | currently yes. We don't have a "stable" manual, as we also don't have a stable release (except for archos) |
| 20:35:24 | Llorean | But there's still the word "daily" that's very literal, and the explanation at the top of the current page as to it being made every change. |
| 20:35:44 | bluebrother | Llorean: it does? Oh, I thought that was changed a while ago |
| 20:36:06 | Llorean | It was changed to "Archived Daily Build" but when the Current Build page had the table removed, I think it lost the 'archived' |
| 20:36:47 | bluebrother | ok. |
| 20:38:02 | derek | I installed all of the themes with rbutil, and none showed up on my device |
| 20:38:28 | linuxstb_ | They don't appear in "browse themes" ? |
| 20:38:35 | derek | Nope. |
| 20:39:24 | * | linuxstb_ shrugs |
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| 20:40:18 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Some email spam has got through (from you) ;) |
| 20:40:23 | derek | i have my x5 partitioned, could this pose a problem? |
| 20:40:38 | sersoft | hey I got a question (rockbox related of course) |
| 20:40:49 | sersoft | what is the best rockboxable mp3? |
| 20:40:54 | sersoft | i mean the preformance |
| 20:41:07 | linuxstb_ | In terms of raw CPU speed, it's the Gigabeat F by far. |
| 20:41:14 | sersoft | like, no lag in videos, fast gbc emulation, all plugins work etc |
| 20:41:30 | Llorean | Gigabeat F then, for now. |
| 20:41:42 | sersoft | yeah I noticed the gigabeat was pretty fast from the 2 youtube videos |
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| 20:41:56 | sersoft | is it cheaper than an ipod video? |
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| 20:42:17 | sersoft | im not looking for alot of space, 20gb is the maximum i need |
| 20:42:21 | linuxstb_ | You should be able to buy them for around $100 USD. Although I think they're getting harder to find. |
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| 20:42:42 | derek | what's the worst player? |
| 20:42:48 | linuxstb_ | ($100 used - you can't buy them new any more) |
| 20:43:02 | derek | -slowest that RB supports |
| 20:43:07 | Llorean | derek: In terms of raw CPU speed, the Archoses. |
| 20:43:14 | Llorean | linuxstb_: You can sometimes |
| 20:43:29 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I got a $99 F40 from Office Depot new, by chance. But they sold out of those. |
| 20:43:39 | sersoft | lol atm i got a nano and i love it, i thought of getting another nano with more space but that would put my old nano to waste |
| 20:43:58 | sersoft | its only 1gb |
| 20:44:08 | linuxstb_ | derek: The Archoses don't use their main CPU for audio decoding though, so aren't really comparable - Rockbox runs very well on them, but they're limited to only MP3 (and MP2). |
| 20:44:24 | dionoea | bluebrother: would it be ok to change some of the labels of the "Ok" buttons in rbutil to "Install" (for the installation dialogs) |
| 20:44:27 | sersoft | but most are b/w lol |
| 20:44:34 | sersoft | archos |
| 20:45:05 | sersoft | also the new ones (archos 504, 604 etc) will they ever be supported? |
| 20:45:16 | linuxstb_ | What's funny about that? Very clear displays, easy to see in sunlight, no need for backlight... |
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| 20:45:29 | Llorean | sersoft: Players aren't planned for, people who own the players decide to work on them. |
| 20:45:32 | derek | linuxstb_: ah. how does the x5 compare? |
| 20:45:54 | bluebrother | dionoea: sounds reasonable to me. |
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| 20:46:35 | linuxstb_ | sersoft: The archopen project have hacked most of the newer archos devices, so a Rockbox port is feasible. But they're media players, and Rockbox is (currently, that may change) an audio player firmware. |
| 20:46:43 | sersoft | I thought of buying a 3g nano to help the development but so far it's encrypted and I want rockbox on my new player. |
| 20:47:18 | linuxstb_ | derek: The x5 seems well-liked by people that own it (I don't). It has a relatively small LCD though. |
| 20:47:39 | sersoft | my nano is 176x132 |
| 20:47:47 | sersoft | the only one smaller is the H10 |
| 20:47:52 | sersoft | and the b/w ones |
| 20:48:01 | bluebrother | the x5 is a coldfire based player. That means it runs fairly well, especially in terms of battery runtime |
| 20:48:08 | linuxstb_ | sersoft: And the c100, and the X5... |
| 20:48:13 | linuxstb_ | I mean c200 |
| 20:48:18 | sersoft | im also looking for the cheapest player |
| 20:48:33 | sersoft | so far its the gigabeat |
| 20:48:41 | advcomp2019 | sersoft, i like the e200 series |
| 20:48:56 | sersoft | sansa? |
| 20:49:09 | advcomp2019 | yea |
| 20:49:18 | sersoft | are they fast for gbc emulation? cuz in the youtube vids its pretty slow |
| 20:49:27 | sersoft | and my nano runs it at full speed |
| 20:49:40 | sersoft | (in ipod linux though) |
| 20:49:53 | scorche | rockbox isnt ipodlinux |
| 20:50:01 | sersoft | duh |
| 20:50:09 | sersoft | but it only runs on ipods |
| 20:50:26 | advcomp2019 | i have not tried the gbc emulation on mine |
| 20:50:28 | scorche | and i doubt the youtube videos were using the current build which may have improvements |
| 20:50:43 | advcomp2019 | if there is one |
| 20:50:52 | dionoea | bluebrother: something else that could be neat would be to display an image of the selected DAP (like the one from the manual). I don't know if that would be a problem in terms of binary size (shouldn't be if the images are small enough) |
| 20:51:00 | n1s | sersoft: ipod nano 1G and the sansa e200 have very similar cpus o they should have comparable speed in rockbox |
| 20:51:03 | scorche | one should never really use a youtube video for reference... |
| 20:51:17 | sersoft | screen size is a factor too |
| 20:51:18 | linuxstb_ | Yes, ipodlinux's gameboy emulator has had much more development than Rockbox's. There is no reason Rockbox's couldn't perform as well if someone made the effort though. |
| 20:51:48 | n1s | sersoft: yes but you can disable the upscaling in rockboy |
| 20:51:53 | sersoft | sansa's screen is bigger than the nano's (in pixels) |
| 20:52:13 | scorche | out of curiosity, since this seems to be such a high priority for you, why dont you just get a gameboy? |
| 20:52:27 | sersoft | i threw it away |
| 20:52:32 | sersoft | :( |
| 20:52:43 | derek | so can rockbox's entire gui be modded, or just the wps? |
| 20:53:02 | scorche | derek: the wps, background image, fonts and icons |
| 20:53:09 | sersoft | or do a custom build |
| 20:53:15 | derek | why not the navigation gui? |
| 20:53:26 | linuxstb_ | derek: Plus the entire source code is available, so if you can program, you can do anything you wish... |
| 20:53:29 | scorche | it can be "modded", but you would have to recompile |
| 20:53:54 | derek | so none of the themes could feasably change the look of the navigation gui.. |
| 20:54:09 | scorche | beyong background, fonts, and icons, not at this time |
| 20:54:09 | BigBambi | derek: other than font and icons, no |
| 20:54:20 | derek | nuts |
| 20:54:20 | sersoft | the wps are enough for me, ipodlinux made a new UI that is much more advanced but it's so slow I stopped using it |
| 20:54:35 | scorche | sersoft: this is #rockbox...ipodlinux is offtopic.. |
| 20:54:47 | sersoft | k |
| 20:54:49 | BigBambi | derek: no-one with the skills thinks it is that important. If it matters that much to you, you are welcome to write a patch |
| 20:55:05 | derek | bigbambi: ic |
| 20:55:19 | BigBambi | derek; proper words please |
| 20:55:46 | derek | bigmabi: Noted. |
| 20:55:56 | sersoft | so if I go to the store tomorrow I'll be looking for a gigabeat F or X |
| 20:55:56 | BigBambi | we have many members who are blind with screen readers or with english as a second language. We like to help them out. |
| 20:56:09 | derek | Okay. |
| 20:56:14 | scorche | you wont find one at the store, as we told you... |
| 20:56:15 | BigBambi | thanks :) |
| 20:56:28 | scorche | unless the store carried used merchandise |
| 20:56:33 | sersoft | so I'll have to look online? |
| 20:56:36 | scorche | likely |
| 20:56:42 | sersoft | alright then |
| 20:56:48 | sersoft | thanks anyway |
| 20:56:48 | scorche | ebay seems to be the typical place |
| 20:57:01 | sersoft | yeah i dont have an ebay account |
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| 20:57:31 | derek | amazon or newegg perhaps |
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| 20:57:48 | derek | oopd off topic sorry |
| 20:57:53 | derek | *oops |
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| 21:02:07 | shortnek | so the remote won't work with my bose system |
| 21:03:28 | BigBambi | what remote for what player |
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| 21:04:34 | linuxstb_ | shortnek: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories |
| 21:04:48 | * | linuxstb_ made an assumption |
| 21:04:53 | shortnek | thx |
| 21:05:12 | * | BigBambi too, but wanted to make the point it isn't all iPod. That assumption annoys me a bit |
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| 21:14:27 | shortnek | what are untagged songs? |
| 21:14:59 | Llorean | Songs missing whatever tag you're sorting by |
| 21:15:16 | bluebrother | files without proper id3 tags / vorbis comments / whatever tags the file type supports |
| 21:15:26 | shortnek | ok |
| 21:15:28 | shortnek | thx |
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| 21:22:07 | derek | I can't get the 'Ocean' theme to install. (I'm using the "Webhop" (rockbox.webhop.org) build it calls for) Wherever I expand the theme zip from, it wont expand. Any ideas? |
| 21:23:00 | GodEater_ | derek: Unsupported builds are called "unsupported" for a reason |
| 21:23:34 | derek | GodEater_: okay |
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| 21:42:56 | kratonator | hi |
| 21:44:14 | kratonator | i have a 3rd gen ipod and i used to charge it in the apple OS, i tried to charge it in rockbox but the battery indicator doesnt change although the theme has a chargin icon |
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| 21:49:53 | TinGrin87 | will third=party hardware (such as the belkin FM transmitter for car) still work with the iPod after installing rockbox on the iPod video 30g? |
| 21:50:10 | krazykit | TinGrin87, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories |
| 21:53:56 | * | petur notices the google mentor mailing list is becoming fun to read |
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| 22:03:27 | webguest14 | A newbie here.....sorry. Anything for Zune? |
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| 22:03:34 | dionoea | webguest14: no. |
| 22:03:40 | bluebrother | no. Not even much interest. |
| 22:03:42 | webguest14 | oh? |
| 22:03:45 | bluebrother | check the New Ports forums |
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| 22:13:02 | kugel | anyone familiar with the customline patch? |
| 22:13:34 | kugel | i applied it, but i cant get the menu get centered with the iphone themes |
| 22:14:06 | kratonator | it's not the customline patch which centeres the menu |
| 22:15:00 | kugel | oh |
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| 22:15:15 | kugel | i thougt, because all these require the customline patch |
| 22:15:29 | kugel | which is it? |
| 22:15:37 | kratonator | the customline patch only puts text anywhere in the WPS |
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| 22:17:45 | kugel | do you know which patch i need to make it work? |
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| 22:18:25 | kratonator | hold on |
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| 22:20:46 | kratonator | FS #5899 |
| 22:21:08 | goodman42 | auto-installer for sansa e200r is probably not possible |
| 22:22:24 | Bagder | why not? |
| 22:22:35 | kugel | thank you dude |
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| 22:23:18 | kratonator | welcome |
| 22:23:48 | homielowe | Has anyone seen ? http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod/iPod-Touch/130 |
| 22:23:56 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:24:39 | Bagder | right now I think a deeper analysis of the firmwares would be interesting |
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| 22:29:21 | kratonator | is it possible to write the code for a touchscreen player? or is it far too complicated? |
| 22:30:14 | Bagder | it would indeed be possible |
| 22:30:23 | Bagder | a touchscreen is not that complicated |
| 22:30:34 | Llorean | Probably one of the lesser burdens of porting to that sort of target |
| 22:30:48 | bluebrother | if the specs are known ;) |
| 22:31:08 | html | hey guys, is there an up-to-date tool that converts the itunesdb and music storage to one that rockbox recognizes? |
| 22:31:19 | html | i know theres an old tool, but is there a newer one? |
| 22:31:28 | html | im not even sure where the old one is, i lost it. |
| 22:31:36 | html | and would the old one work? |
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| 22:31:40 | html | thanks. |
| 22:31:48 | bluebrother | none that I know of. |
| 22:31:57 | bluebrother | and the old one won't work. The database format changed. |
| 22:32:33 | Bagder | html: just running the db on target and letting it make a new db is less of a hassle than writing and maintaining such a tool I guess |
| 22:32:53 | html | hmm, i cant say i understand what you mean |
| 22:33:00 | html | how would i go about doing that? |
| 22:33:08 | Bagder | there is a database in rockbox, it works |
| 22:33:10 | Llorean | Bagder: I'll bet a database generation plugin will show up for RButil eventually, though. |
| 22:33:12 | Bagder | see manual for details |
| 22:33:13 | bluebrother | the manual tells you how to use the database |
| 22:33:49 | Bagder | Llorean: yes it surely could, and if it would use the same code as for the target I think it would have a fair chance to remain working too! |
| 22:34:58 | html | i know how to access the files on my ipod, but it would be difficult because it has the random storage system |
| 22:35:10 | Llorean | Bagder: I'm expecting third parties to create at the very least that, a scrobbler submission plugin, and an album art downloader. |
| 22:35:18 | bluebrother | html: no. Use the database. |
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| 22:36:14 | Bagder | I don't get it, if the itunes db would've been coverted with a tool, how else would you browse it if it wasn't with the database? |
| 22:36:47 | Bagder | ah, you talked about something that renames files? |
| 22:37:14 | Bagder | that should be possible with any half-baked tag editor kind of tool |
| 22:37:33 | html | badger, according to them there is no working tool to covert the itunesdb |
| 22:37:55 | bluebrother | html: you don't need to convert the Itunesdb. Rockbox generates its own database. |
| 22:37:56 | Bagder | did I mention converting the db? nope |
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| 22:38:09 | senab | does anyone know what the max ampage the e200 can take in a charger? |
| 22:38:21 | Bagder | html: do you want a database or do you want file access? |
| 22:38:48 | Bagder | senab: you mean if you overpower the usb? |
| 22:38:50 | html | umm, i'm fine with either |
| 22:38:56 | html | anything that works |
| 22:39:03 | Llorean | senab: Someone's mentioned using 2000mAh chargers with it, I've done with 1000 I believe. |
| 22:39:11 | Bagder | html: so for database let rockbox index the files, for files you better use a tool that renames them |
| 22:39:15 | Llorean | Bagder: Wall chargers are often more, like the iPod chargers. |
| 22:39:18 | senab | badger: i need to buy a mains usb charger and i'm looking at the ampages |
| 22:39:36 | Bagder | are there wall chargers for the sansa? |
| 22:39:46 | senab | 3rd party yes |
| 22:39:58 | * | Bagder didn't know that |
| 22:39:59 | senab | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UK-Mains-Charger-for-Sandisk-Sansa-E200-E250-E260-E280_W0QQitemZ130151823747QQihZ003QQcategoryZ86541QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:40:00 | Llorean | I know I've had no problems using it with my Griffin iPod charger. |
| 22:40:08 | amiconn | Anything above 500mA is a waste if the device complies to the usb standard |
| 22:40:09 | html | badger: i see what you're saying. i need to find a third-party tool. do you know of any? |
| 22:40:26 | Bagder | html: easytag could rename files based on their tags |
| 22:40:32 | Bagder | linux of course... :-) |
| 22:40:49 | Bagder | I have no idea about windows tools for it |
| 22:40:52 | senab | is it a waste getting one over 500mA then? |
| 22:42:03 | Bagder | html: I think many people prefer the database approach since then you can still boot the OF and use that to play music |
| 22:42:09 | html | and would easytag work with itunesdb and do it automatically? |
| 22:42:21 | Bagder | no |
| 22:42:28 | Bagder | no tool exists that converts the db |
| 22:42:31 | * | bluebrother really don't get this asking about itunesdb |
| 22:42:46 | Bagder | I was talking about renaming files based on their tags |
| 22:43:11 | amiconn | There are many tools which can do that |
| 22:43:13 | Bagder | tags that are used to create the itunesdb in the first place |
| 22:43:32 | amiconn | For windows there are The Godfather and foobar2000, among others |
| 22:44:19 | senab | every charger i can find on ebay is 130mA |
| 22:44:20 | html | i appreciate easytag, im going to use it with my new ipod and rockbox |
| 22:45:04 | html | bluebrother, im asking about itunesdb because i have an ipod mini 2G and i want to convert it to rockbox in the easiest way possible |
| 22:45:35 | senab | quod libet is better than easytag imo |
| 22:45:49 | bluebrother | you still don't need itunesdb for that. If the files are properly tagged the database will just work fine with it. |
| 22:45:52 | bluebrother | as renaming based on tags would. |
| 22:46:04 | kratonator | yes, that's what i wanted to say |
| 22:46:09 | Bagder | yeah, either way would use the same tags |
| 22:46:18 | krazykit | senab, well, ex falso ;-) |
| 22:46:35 | bluebrother | itunesdb just duplicates the tags. Given that the files are tagged correctly. |
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| 22:46:49 | senab | my bad, i always get confused which is which |
| 22:47:13 | senab | just saw that exfalso has a new replaygain scanner, wooop! |
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| 22:47:37 | senab | i think thats the first linux based RG scanner |
| 22:47:41 | html | oooh, bluebrother. i thought the randomly placed files in the ipod didnt have tags and the itunesdb was all that was used for tags, but you're saying that the randomly placed files in the ipod's hidden folders are tagged, correct? |
| 22:47:44 | Bagder | those are just... weird names |
| 22:48:17 | Llorean | html: They'll have any tags they had before, if you added "tags" in iTunes, those may only be in the itunesdb. |
| 22:48:22 | bluebrother | html: _if_ you edit tags iirc they will only be present in the itunesdb. But if your files are tagged correctly itunes won't strip those. |
| 22:48:31 | Llorean | Bagder: I agree about those being really odd names. |
| 22:49:02 | kratonator | in the same context, is it possible to make sncviewer work with all those weird names? |
| 22:49:57 | senab | does this sound right? input current: 130mA, output current 500mA |
| 22:50:12 | senab | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/240V-UK-Mains-USB-charger-for-Mobile-iPod-PDA-MP4_W0QQitemZ140155106028QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86531QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:52:13 | html | okay. so will the ones i tagged in itunes be tagged in the folder, or will i need itunesdb for that? |
| 22:52:43 | * | Soap modded down the /. comment suggesting Rockbox as an "alternative" for the new iPods on Linux, and modded up the correction someone else posted. |
| 22:53:13 | * | Soap Would like it very much if at least one other person with current modpoints would do the same. Disinformation on /. travels fast. |
| 22:53:31 | bluebrother | html: may I suggest just trying it? I guess almost none in here is interested in the ItunesDB and knows this ... |
| 22:53:46 | * | Soap is talking about http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=298231&cid=20607663 |
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| 22:54:17 | html | yeah. sorry guys for being such a bother. (i was being lazy as i lost my cable and have to look for it) thanks for all your help. have a great day! |
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| 22:56:23 | Bagder | that article (comments to it) has referred over 700 visitors to www.rockbox.org |
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| 22:56:41 | Soap | not my sig this time, I promise! |
| 22:57:09 | Bagder | almost as many as from the bloat-free article from a week ago or so |
| 22:57:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:57:22 | Soap | I'll take credit for that ;) |
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| 22:57:30 | Bagder | hehe, yeah that was neat! |
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| 22:58:24 | Soap | senab: that sounds like an 8% efficient conversion from 240v mains to 5v USB! |
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| 22:59:03 | senab | soap: i was thinking that, but every one on there is the same |
| 22:59:52 | Soap | 16% efficient, as they are probably quoting the maximum input draw from a 120 source? |
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| 23:00:21 | derek | What is the proper way to install 'rockbox-fonts.zip'? |
| 23:00:53 | Soap | derek: the "proper" way is to simply extract the .zip file to the root directory of your player, as the needed path is already built into the .zip file. |
| 23:00:53 | kratonator | extract it to the root of your player |
| 23:01:12 | derek | Thank you both. |
| 23:01:14 | * | bluebrother points to the manual once more |
| 23:03:17 | | Part derek |
| 23:03:27 | senab | i think i might just buy a 500mA charger, they're cheap and cheerful |
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| 23:10:13 | Llorean | Someone's succeeded in running e200rpatcher in windows now. |
| 23:10:37 | senab | llorean: how? i thought libusb didn't work on windows |
| 23:11:03 | Llorean | Apparently you need to compile custom .inf drivers for each of the IDs the device uses. |
| 23:11:36 | Llorean | senab: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12712.0 |
| 23:12:43 | senab | libusb-win32 hasn't been updated for 2 years anyway |
| 23:13:13 | advcomp2019 | nice to see someone getting it to work in windows |
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| 23:47:23 | linuxstb_ | Does anyone know how to tag revisions in SVN? We need to release a new e200 bootloader and sansapatcher... |
| 23:49:06 | Bagder | html">http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.branchmerge.tags.html |
| 23:51:10 | linuxstb_ | Do we have a convention for tagging things? |
| 23:51:29 | Bagder | I'm not aware of any |
| 23:51:58 | * | linuxstb_ browses http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/tags/ |
| 23:52:36 | linuxstb_ | So maybe "bootloader_e200_v2" ? |
| 23:52:52 | Bagder | works for me! |
| 23:52:57 | Llorean | Sounds good to me, too |
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| 23:54:51 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Are you going to be around for much longer? |
| 23:55:07 | Bagder | no, I'm off to bed in a few mins |
| 23:55:11 | Bagder | back again tomorrow night |
| 23:55:28 | linuxstb_ | OK. That will allow some people to test. |
| 23:55:36 | Bagder | it's rise and shine before 07:00 here ;-) |
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| 23:57:10 | kratonator | gnite all |
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