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00:00:44 | maxkelley | *rimshot* |
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00:02:36 | TMM | thank you, I'll be here all day |
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00:02:59 | maxkelley | *assorted groans, boos, and "YOU SUCK"s* |
00:03:18 | TMM | screw you guys, I'm going home |
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00:03:49 | maxkelley | *cheers* |
00:03:58 | maxkelley | er, right, on-topic. |
00:04:01 | * | jhMikeS tries to find his first IRC post here...just because |
00:04:17 | maxkelley | let's graph TMM's audience popularity. |
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00:04:26 | Paul1989 | On my 5th Gen ipod, i had rockbox working, and my battery ran out, now when i plug my ipod into the computer it wont charge |
00:04:26 | TMM | lets not |
00:04:29 | Paul1989 | anyone else had this problem :| ? |
00:04:32 | maxkelley | ________ well, that was easy :) |
00:04:57 | TMM | maxkelley: ow, come on, it wasn't THAT bad |
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00:05:04 | TMM | tough crowd |
00:07:11 | jhMikeS | TMM: you're telling _me_ :) |
00:07:49 | maxkelley | apparently, my earliest yet is 6-03-07 |
00:07:52 | TMM | jhMikeS: ok, what WAS your first IRC post? |
00:08:12 | maxkelley | ah, no, 5/21/07 |
00:08:44 | jhMikeS | TMM: still trying to find it...some time in July 2006 though |
00:08:44 | maxkelley | oh, 1/03/07 :) |
00:08:50 | ddalton | Ok can someone help me here? This patch stops the sim build from compiling. The normal build seems to compile. ddalton/error.txt">http://members.iinet.net.au/~ddalton/error.txt |
00:08:59 | Bagder | I'm logged in the first line of the oldest logged #rockbox log... |
00:09:32 | jhMikeS | Bagder: I did see that one...not sure anyone could have beaten you to it |
00:10:30 | preglow | jhMikeS: you got involved over x5, no? |
00:10:35 | jhMikeS | yup |
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00:10:56 | ddalton | has anyone taken a look at my patch and the error? |
00:10:59 | * | jhMikeS remembers the oldest log introducing the channel or something |
00:11:00 | * | moos remenber that jhMikeS came one summer, no? |
00:11:09 | maxkelley | ddalton: give it a sec. |
00:11:10 | jhMikeS | moos: last |
00:11:16 | ddalton | ok |
00:11:20 | maxkelley | it was just 10 seconds ago you put it up :) |
00:11:52 | jhMikeS | I just want to laugh at myself and how clueless it sounds |
00:12:02 | moos | hehe :) |
00:12:45 | maxkelley | show us :) |
00:12:55 | * | moos propose to jhMikeS to use recording on one of his rockbox device (with his code ;) |
00:13:39 | Soap | Paul1989: It is a common problem with iPods, even those running the Apple stock firmware, to suffer from problems when deep discharged. The best thing you can do is plug it in to charge (preferably a wall charger) for overnight, then toggle the hold switch to the on (red) position and back to the off position, then attempt the standard hard-reboot procedure (Menu+Select held for 30 seconds) |
00:14:07 | Paul1989 | Righto, I'll have to borrow a wall charger then |
00:14:18 | rasher | jhMikeS: 20060710 |
00:14:39 | Paul1989 | I was hoping that I didnt run the battery so dry it hasn't got enough power to boot |
00:15:15 | moos | rasher: aquote? :) |
00:15:15 | maxkelley | oh, 12-30-06 |
00:15:17 | jhMikeS | heh.."test, Is this thing on?" how appropriate for TMM's statement. |
00:15:26 | Paul1989 | since i was playing on the gameboy emulator, and it seemed to be chewing through the battery. |
00:15:53 | jhMikeS | it must've click it |
00:16:03 | Soap | Paul1989: Feel free to try any powered USB port - it is just that people have reported a greater success rate when using wall chargers. If that fails you, wash-rinse-repeat. Keep trying in other words. It is a very common occurance. You might even find that it spontaniously boots during the night-long charging process, because of this possibility I suggest charging it with the hold switch in the on (red) position so that Apple firmware will boot in |
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00:16:55 | TMM | jhMikeS: very leisure suit larry ;P |
00:17:08 | Soap | lounge lizards? |
00:17:23 | TMM | something like that |
00:17:30 | jhMikeS | hehe...I came in as comedian right from the start and the code shows that |
00:17:33 | TMM | that reminds me, I need to do a sarien port :P |
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00:18:04 | Soap | regardless, Paul1989, the backlight is a MAJOR battery hog - and that combined with Rockbox's already larger-than-apple power consumption and the heavy CPU usage of Rockboy makes the Trifecta of Battery Suck. |
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00:20:55 | Paul1989 | Haha yeah, thanks Soap |
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00:30:17 | thegeek | http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22535838-5012895,00.html |
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00:32:07 | scorche|work | thegeek: and what does that have to do with rockbox? |
00:32:33 | lostlogic | ok, it's been a lnog time since I really paid attention to the boost ratio on my ipod video, but it's down at 35%ish playing ogg q7 as of now. I still use a slightly tweaked version that runs the audio thread on the COP and disables all yields in the codec, but that's amazing nonetheless. |
00:32:33 | signuts | hehe |
00:33:04 | jhMikeS | moos: any idea when that was re: recording? |
00:33:13 | thegeek | scorche|work: sorry |
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00:34:02 | jhMikeS | oh, bugger, he left |
00:34:52 | stripwax | i'm getting 30% average boost on q4 |
00:34:52 | lostlogic | weird, 192kbps mp3 was much slower. |
00:35:17 | Llorean | lostlogic: we now have a test_codec plugin that allows you to get the exact % realtime for decoding that file. |
00:35:36 | lostlogic | Llorean: yeah, I saw a commit relating to test_codec, how does one use it? |
00:35:45 | Llorean | Use the "Open With" context menu on any song. |
00:35:45 | TMM | time for sleep |
00:35:55 | Llorean | I believe you have to add it into your build though, I think it may be disabled by default |
00:36:05 | TMM | later people, I shall be bad puns no more |
00:36:09 | scorche|work | lostlogic: nice to see you around here again :) |
00:36:09 | stripwax | That's dumb, "clockwise from above" or "clockwise from below"? |
00:36:25 | thegeek | does not matter |
00:36:27 | TMM | let you all rejoice |
00:36:30 | stripwax | er? |
00:36:34 | thegeek | you can switch |
00:36:40 | thegeek | try it when the feet cross |
00:36:44 | lostlogic | Llorean: yeah, not there, will check it out |
00:36:45 | thegeek | it's really wierd/awsome |
00:36:54 | lostlogic | scorche|work: I'm not here, don't delude yourself. |
00:36:56 | stripwax | thegeek - I mean, this question is meaningless: "do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?" |
00:36:57 | TMM | stripwax: try turning your screen 90 degrees, seemed to work wonders |
00:37:01 | thegeek | no it's not |
00:37:03 | thegeek | trust me |
00:37:06 | thegeek | you can switch/invert |
00:37:10 | stripwax | define Clockwise when you are facing someone |
00:37:16 | Llorean | stripwax, thegeek: There are other channels you can take this to... |
00:37:16 | lostlogic | stripwax: I agreed |
00:37:22 | stripwax | sorry |
00:37:23 | lostlogic | I think what I saw was clockwise, but it's undefinable |
00:37:25 | thegeek | Llorean: yes I'll stfu now;P |
00:37:49 | scorche|work | lostlogic: tis a shame |
00:38:49 | thegeek | again, sorry, only reason I posted it is because it's a _really_ awsome example of brain seperation |
00:39:26 | Llorean | thegeek: Perfect example of what would be suitable for #rockbox-community, perhaps |
00:39:43 | scorche|work | well, we dont have an "unless it is awesome" clause in the guidelines.. |
00:39:57 | preglow | jhMikeS: the gray_core log/exp stuff uses s15.16 fixed point? |
00:40:13 | jhMikeS | preglow: better ask amiconn about graylib |
00:41:51 | jhMikeS | exp_s16p16?? |
00:42:04 | preglow | yea |
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00:49:30 | Soap | Is it my imagination, or did someone allow a "Zombie Angel" to register on the wiki? |
00:50:26 | thegeek | hey now, don't go there man, just imagine how cruel it must have been growing up with that man |
00:50:28 | thegeek | name* |
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00:51:08 | Llorean | Soap: That's the automatic page |
00:51:14 | Llorean | Zombie Angel isn't on the "write access" page |
00:51:30 | Soap | never mind, I forgot about the difference between http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers |
00:51:58 | Llorean | Users is "anyone who attempts to sign up" |
00:52:58 | jhMikeS | preglow: I suppose if it's 33-bit you can just shift all the calcs appropriately. :) |
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00:53:29 | lostlogic | 223% realtime on my typical test ogg 217kbps average (q7 vbr) |
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01:00:29 | mpeccorini | Llorean, around? |
01:01:02 | Llorean | Slightly |
01:01:06 | mpeccorini | :p |
01:01:11 | * | jhMikeS wants to know what bloated up that pcm change on PP so much ... grrr |
01:01:19 | mpeccorini | I've been trying to play songs but I can't |
01:01:32 | mpeccorini | sometimes it was telling me the .rockbox folder didn't exist |
01:01:46 | mpeccorini | so I formatted, installed the latest ipodpatcher and tried again |
01:02:17 | mpeccorini | loading rockbox appears more stable, it always finds the .rockbox folder |
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01:02:25 | mpeccorini | but it hangs when I try to play a song |
01:02:31 | mpeccorini | and I'm trying with a normal song now |
01:02:39 | Llorean | What type of iPod? |
01:02:51 | mpeccorini | nano 1st gen 4gb |
01:03:33 | mpeccorini | I stopped using it for some time, and after that, Windows said it was not formatted |
01:03:39 | preglow | jhMikeS: it's bloated? |
01:03:41 | Llorean | It's probably the iPod Nano issue currently in existence. |
01:03:43 | mpeccorini | so I formatted and copied rockbox again |
01:03:51 | Llorean | It can cause errors like that. |
01:04:14 | mpeccorini | well, at least it's not me doing something stupid |
01:04:41 | mpeccorini | is there something I can read about that problem? |
01:04:53 | mpeccorini | I found a post in the forum with a similar case, but it didn't have a solution |
01:05:05 | jhMikeS | preglow: it's wa like +1800 bytes. wtf. I really don't think I need so much volatile ... or any really |
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01:07:30 | mpeccorini | Llorean: I restored it with iTunes and I was thinking on starting rockbox installation from scratch. Do you think I'ts worth the shot or should I try something else? |
01:08:22 | Llorean | mpeccorini: If it's the current major Nano problem, it requires coding and cleverness to fix. |
01:09:24 | preglow | jhMikeS: might be able to use the gray_core.c log, but i really would like one with more precision though. any idea how to craft another one using more frac bits? |
01:09:29 | mpeccorini | well, I can code but I don't think I can find the reason of the proble myself |
01:09:52 | mpeccorini | does someone know something about the problem yet? |
01:11:16 | jhMikeS | preglow: not right off the top of my head. I suppose you'd have to change the constants to start though. |
01:11:53 | jhMikeS | preglow: did that nice graph come from cheating with doubles? |
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01:13:31 | Llorean | mpeccorini: It's believed to be a timing issue with the flash |
01:14:28 | mpeccorini | Llorean: so it has nothing to do with my iPod not being recognized by Windows after a couple months without use? |
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01:15:41 | bkix | hi |
01:18:01 | preglow | jhMikeS: that particular one probably did, yeah |
01:18:19 | Llorean | mpeccorini: Hm, well yours could be something else... |
01:18:24 | preglow | ahh, and the current ones do too, yes. i just call log10() |
01:18:49 | mpeccorini | Llorean: ok, thanks, I'll keep playing with it and see what I can find |
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01:25:37 | jhMikeS | preglow: what log10 range is needed? |
01:26:19 | jhMikeS | domain would be the right word |
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01:28:51 | preglow | jhMikeS: i should just try using the existing one and see |
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01:28:59 | preglow | 16 frac bits MIGHT be enough |
01:29:20 | petur | jhMikeS: any objections if I commit FS #5852? I get the feeling that when it acts up it is related to my H10, not the patch, and I discovered that the H320 I bought for testing has in fact a bad HDD... I think the patch is a start, if more people test we'll know if it solves everything |
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01:32:17 | bkix | maybe someone can give me a hint: my sansa e280 can't be mounted anymore.. neither windows nor linux are able to get it mounted... |
01:32:21 | jhMikeS | petur: does it at least validate fd now? does mp3_enc also not flush the encoder if an error happens? |
01:32:46 | petur | ah right, still have to verify that |
01:32:54 | * | petur kicks old memory |
01:33:50 | jhMikeS | petur: mp3_enc seems ok |
01:35:14 | petur | So I should add a check for data->rec_file >= 0 where I removed is_file_data_ok |
01:35:15 | * | jhMikeS just has another quick look at what's going on there. |
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01:35:49 | jhMikeS | I think so. iirc there's no check in file.c for that...maybe I'm just not remembering right. there ought to be though. |
01:36:15 | * | rlpowell waves. |
01:36:40 | rlpowell | I have a newb question, but I don't think it's in the docs. Anyone willing to put up with me for a minute? :) |
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01:37:14 | jhMikeS | petur: ah, guess I'm full of it. |
01:37:43 | petur | file.c indeed has no checks... |
01:37:57 | jhMikeS | for close() it does. what about others? |
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01:38:12 | petur | seek and readwrite don't |
01:39:01 | petur | maybe it should just be added to file.c and be done with... |
01:39:43 | jhMikeS | write, read, lseek, filesize, |
01:39:54 | jhMikeS | just the public functions |
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01:40:18 | petur | yup, I'll add it |
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01:43:54 | petur | hmm will do more tests and then commit later - need sleep first |
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01:50:14 | * | jhMikeS looks at the gcc asm to figure out what the heck it's doing...removing volatiles did nothing |
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01:50:57 | rlpowell | So I've got a bluetooth headset that tries to control my iPod Photo through...umm... the bottom port thingy (what is that called?). With the iPod firmware I can change songs and pause with the headset; with rockbox not so much. |
01:51:08 | rlpowell | Is that something I can configure, or would that be whole new development? |
01:51:46 | jhMikeS | oy...gcc...nice one |
01:52:31 | * | rlpowell is very happy that he doesn't touch asm much any more. |
01:52:48 | linuxstb | rlpowell: Rockbox has no support for the Apple accessory protocol - it needs someone to a) write a driver for the (undocumented) serial port in the dock; b) Implement the higher-level Apple Accessory protocol |
01:53:16 | rlpowell | linuxstb: So not just "new development" but "new development against an undocumented hardware interface". |
01:53:22 | rlpowell | Double ick. |
01:53:23 | jhMikeS | it's the generated assembly. since I declared the structure packed, it seems it loads ints as bytes and ors them |
01:53:25 | rlpowell | Good to know, thanks. |
01:53:42 | rlpowell | While I'm here: I love rockbox, and you all (the devs) are wonderful people. |
01:53:49 | rlpowell | I suspect you don't hear that enough. :) |
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01:58:17 | rlpowell | FWIW, rockbox meaning that I'm unable to change songs and pause through my headset is a minus for rockbox... but it still wins. Easily. |
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02:01:33 | jhMikeS | ooh...1020 bytes off e200 |
02:05:38 | preglow | sweet lord |
02:05:59 | preglow | it does that when it has no idea about alignment of packed structs? |
02:07:12 | keanu | how safe is the "cut and paste" on Rockbox? (e200) |
02:08:05 | jhMikeS | preglow: I'm guessing it just doesn't know the difference. The asm didn't blow up accessing it so it must have been aligned. |
02:09:39 | preglow | jhMikeS: well, if it loads everything as bytes, it doesn't mater |
02:10:20 | jhMikeS | the asm fiq handler doesn't |
02:10:48 | preglow | gcc does pretty much always align |
02:11:12 | jhMikeS | it aligned but still byte accessed...to me that's just another bug |
02:11:16 | preglow | i don't think there's much of a point in packing that struct anyway |
02:11:48 | jhMikeS | true, but it should know certain members are aligned anyway. |
02:12:06 | jhMikeS | already gone and building |
02:17:01 | preglow | seems like the 16 bit log works just fine |
02:17:12 | * | preglow does the possible eq plotter coming up dance |
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02:17:43 | jhMikeS | commit! |
02:17:48 | preglow | haha |
02:17:58 | preglow | need to finish the code first, it doesn't work 100% yet |
02:18:08 | preglow | also find out how the hell to handle the ui aspect of it |
02:18:50 | jhMikeS | don't forget the screen rotation when LCD_HEIGHT > LCD_WIDTH :P |
02:19:09 | jhMikeS | ok, that one saved some bytes |
02:19:25 | preglow | it did indeed |
02:19:37 | preglow | even on archos? :P |
02:19:56 | jhMikeS | hey, it's GCC, you never know |
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02:35:01 | preglow | bedtime |
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02:41:33 | lxx | hi all |
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02:41:51 | lxx | i have installed last rockbox build |
02:42:09 | FilipeMB | could somebody help me? its just a simple question related to rockboy and save files |
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02:43:09 | lxx | but when i coonect to usb my ipod start charging but i cant start playing music on my ipod how i can charge my ipod and play music at the same time? |
02:43:46 | FilipeMB | lxx, there is no way to do this as far as i know |
02:44:00 | webguest35 | I just read zajacattack's guide on how to make the bootloader patching work on windows and in the guide it says to open a command prompt. I was wondering if that is the "run" tab in the start menu. Thanks in advance. |
02:44:21 | webguest35 | oh, and this is for e200r on windows |
02:44:31 | FilipeMB | lxx, only if you boot ipod os directly by menu and select and if you charge by power, not usb |
02:44:43 | FilipeMB | webguest35, run msdos prompt |
02:44:55 | scorche | FilipeMB: uh...what? |
02:45:05 | scorche | webguest35: if you want help with his guide, ask him |
02:45:30 | scorche | lxx: hold menu while inserting the cable |
02:45:58 | FilipeMB | scorche, i have a certein .sav that is auto-load with a 2 attached to it, making it to not load the really .sav game, just the quick save made by rockboy. |
02:46:41 | scorche | FilipeMB: i said that, as you were giving out information that was completely wrong... |
02:47:14 | FilipeMB | scorche: didnt get your point, sorry but english is not my mothern language. |
02:47:30 | lxx | scorche anf whats happen next? |
02:47:45 | lxx | scorche and whats happen next? |
02:48:06 | scorche | lxx: and it should charge while in rockbox, so you can still play music |
02:48:33 | FilipeMB | scorche: oh, got you point now.. and i didnt know about being able to listen to the music while charging by usb WITH rockbox, tks :) |
02:49:07 | scorche | FilipeMB: my point was, please dont give wrong information to people...if you are not sure, stay silent and wait for someone else to answer |
02:49:49 | FilipeMB | scorche: im sorry, i was just trying to help. are you able to help me? |
02:50:11 | scorche | no, hence why i am staying silent in regards to that ;) |
02:50:38 | lxx | my ipod need to be OFF when i need push menu and insert usb cable or its can be ON ? |
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02:51:22 | scorche | while running rockbox |
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02:52:07 | lxx | how long i need push menu before i insert usb cable? |
02:54:48 | lxx | scorche its working great thanks for help - thank you |
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03:06:22 | FilipeMB | somebody could help me? |
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03:11:19 | kesporkes | hello? |
03:12:11 | kesporkes | hello? |
03:12:16 | keanu | hello? |
03:14:19 | keanu | kesporkes, hello? |
03:15:29 | advcomp2019 | kesporkes, do you have a question |
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03:17:29 | keanu | ...guess not |
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03:33:56 | lxx | can i listen music and upload new mp3`s to my ipod with rockbox? |
03:34:12 | scorche | why wouldnt you be able to? |
03:34:55 | lxx | at the same time |
03:35:08 | scorche | no |
03:35:15 | lxx | why? |
03:35:57 | scorche | because we dont control the usb connection |
03:35:59 | alienbiker99 | cause you need to be in the apple firmware to use usb |
03:39:11 | lxx | alienbiker99 what you mean? |
03:39:33 | scorche | lxx: when you have a usb connection, you are not in rockbox |
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03:41:31 | lxx | but when i have usb connection rockbox DO NOT DISCONNECT uppers not APLE OS |
03:41:53 | scorche | that is apple's emergency disc mode |
03:49:30 | tictoc | should i run the sansapatcher when updating the rockbox version? |
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03:51:44 | scorche | tictoc: sansapatcher is for the bootloader...not the rockbox firmware |
03:52:04 | tictoc | nevermind |
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03:53:45 | tictoc | ah, thank you |
03:54:54 | webguest48 | hello people. Advice please. Trying to build my database on gigabeat. I go to Initialize then Screen says Builidind Database 6300 files found. Then it gets stuck on that. When I reboot I get a Commiting Database 1/9 on the boot screen. What is all that? |
03:55:57 | psycho_maniac | it is commiting the database. when thast done your database will work |
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04:01:55 | lxx | can rockbox play DTS files? |
04:03:26 | scorche | nope |
04:03:50 | lxx | APE ? |
04:04:15 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
04:05:33 | lxx | but i dont understand can i play Monkey's Audio APE files on ipod video 5.5 with rockbox or not ? |
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04:07:21 | psycho_maniac | that link tells you what codecs work on rockbox |
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04:08:38 | lxx | whats mean Realtime on iPod (4th Gen and later), Sansa and H10 ? |
04:08:49 | lxx | whats mean Realtime ? |
04:08:57 | Llorean | lxx: "Realtime" means "Plays back fast enough to listen to" |
04:09:39 | lxx | so i cant listen normal on my ipod 5.5 ? |
04:09:42 | Llorean | No |
04:09:54 | Llorean | APE is a very computationally intensive format, not designed for portable players |
04:10:05 | Llorean | Use FLAC or wavpack. |
04:11:33 | lxx | but its real in someday with newer version of rockbox realtime playback on ipod or not? |
04:11:46 | Llorean | Probably not |
04:11:49 | Llorean | The processor is too slow |
04:12:04 | Llorean | As I said, simply use FLAC or wavpack. |
04:12:33 | lxx | in ipod classic processor the same like in 5.5 ipod or have more power? |
04:12:46 | Llorean | The iPod classic probably won't have Rockbox for years, if ever. |
04:13:03 | scorche | it is more powerful, but as said, you wouldnt be able to play it there either as it doesnt run rockbox |
04:13:19 | Llorean | It probably doesn't have enough power for anything but the lowest compression APE even then, I'd bet. |
04:14:09 | scorche | i dont really know how APE scales in regards to power either |
04:14:44 | Llorean | Our coldfires can do the very lowest compression level realtime, and that's it. |
04:14:58 | Llorean | The Gigabeat gets halfway up (3/5) the scale. |
04:15:10 | lxx | Llorean why you think iPod classic won't have Rockbox for years? |
04:15:23 | scorche | lxx: because no one is working on it, among other reasons |
04:15:26 | Llorean | lxx: Because it's an entirely new player with new, undocumented hardware and encrypted firmware. |
04:15:44 | Llorean | lxx: It can be considered an entirely new port, starting from scratch, and those take a lot of time. |
04:16:18 | scorche | likely the hardest port as well |
04:16:41 | Llorean | It's probably harder than Zune would be, for example. |
04:17:27 | lxx | Rockbox team working on Zune version of Rockbox? |
04:17:36 | Llorean | No. |
04:17:57 | scorche | there is no "Rockbox team" that works on any ports...but no single person is working on them in any case |
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04:25:03 | lxx | and there is no other alternative firware`s working with ipod classic ? |
04:26:41 | psycho_maniac | speaking of the ipod classic. can you put the 160gb hd in a 5.5g? the connections are different i think...correct? |
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04:27:33 | webguest22 | Now, open up a command prompt, enter cd c:\e200tool_dir (where e200tool_dir is where you unzipped e200tool.zip). |
04:28:05 | scorche | lxx: no |
04:28:13 | scorche | psycho_maniac: no, yes |
04:28:30 | scorche | webguest22: eh? |
04:28:36 | webguest22 | when i open the command prompt, i get c:/windows/>. what do i put after that |
04:28:50 | webguest22 | those were the directions i was trying to follow |
04:29:02 | scorche | cd c:\e200tool_dir (where e200tool_dir is where you unzipped e200tool.zip) |
04:29:04 | scorche | that |
04:29:33 | webguest22 | afer the c:/windows/> |
04:29:39 | webguest22 | after* |
04:29:41 | webguest22 | ? |
04:29:59 | webguest22 | i unzipped it in the desktop |
04:30:03 | scorche | well, it doesnt say anything about what it should say...it just says what to type |
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04:31:41 | webguest22 | it says "too many parameters - /WINDOWS" |
04:31:58 | scorche | what did you type? |
04:32:23 | webguest22 | i typed in "cd c:/windows/desktop/e200tool" |
04:32:48 | webguest22 | thats where i unzipped it |
04:34:48 | advcomp2019 | it is "cd c:/document and settings/(computer user name)/desktop/e200tool" |
04:35:01 | webguest22 | oh, thanks |
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04:35:25 | advcomp2019 | that is it you unzipped it to your desktop |
04:35:39 | webguest22 | i did |
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04:36:54 | TLS | okay, i apologize for being a newbie :) i would like some help concerning setting up the cross compiler using cygwin on a windows machine |
04:37:16 | scorche | what issues are you having? |
04:37:19 | TLS | i already have cygwin installed, but i have no idea how to pilot the darn'd thing |
04:37:52 | scorche | as in do pretty much anything? |
04:37:54 | TLS | i read that i ought to run the rockboxdev.sh shell script out of the tools folder of a rockbox source, and that that should do it for me, but i don't know how to run that script |
04:38:02 | TLS | *nods* |
04:38:10 | scorche | no..you dont have to do that for cygwin |
04:38:24 | scorche | did you not see the wiki page? |
04:38:26 | TLS | see, this is the problem then :) |
04:38:34 | TLS | yes, but i'm not following it very well i guess |
04:38:38 | TLS | i've read all the pages a few times |
04:38:40 | scorche | well, do ;) |
04:39:29 | TLS | there's something silly and small that i don't understand, and i'm not sure where i'm going wrong. perhaps i don't understand entirely the function of cygwin |
04:39:47 | TLS | in relation to the compiling process, i mean |
04:41:03 | scorche | "Cygwin (pronounced /?ts?gw?n/) is a collection of free software tools originally developed by Cygnus Solutions to allow various versions of Microsoft Windows to act similar to a Unix system. It aims mainly at porting software that runs on POSIX systems (such as Linux, BSD, and Unix systems) to run on Windows with little more than a recompilation." |
04:41:12 | scorche | (from the first 2 sentences on wikipedia) |
04:41:55 | TLS | okay then−− we'll simplify the issue at hand: what must i do to properly run this dear shellscript of mine? :) that's some terrain i'm not familiar with, to be honest |
04:43:34 | scorche | what shell script do you need to run? |
04:44:24 | TLS | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler tells me that i need to run rockboxdev.sh out of the RB source's "tools" folder |
04:44:39 | scorche | then you are looking at the wrong wiki page ;) |
04:44:46 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
04:45:18 | TLS | maybe i've missed something on that page, but i think i've done everything on that one |
04:46:14 | TLS | if i read it correctly, Step 4 is done by the installer for me, so i shouldn't have to worry about the manual path insertion, right? |
04:50:19 | scorche | where did you see that it was done for you? |
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04:51:19 | TLS | "To successfully compile rockbox, the cross compiler directory has to be in your path. This is automatically done by the installation script. If that fails for some reason, there are a couple ways of doing so, here's one..." |
04:51:28 | TLS | just under the step 4 heading |
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04:53:49 | itsanick | what iPods does rockbox support? i cant seem to find that |
04:53:49 | webguest22 | i'm still having problems. Nothing is coming up after i typr in the command. I move the folder where i unzipped my things on the local disk (C:). Then this is what everything looks like, "C:/WINDOWS>cd c:/e200tool" the "e200tool" is what i named the folder which i unzipped all the files to |
04:54:11 | TLS | http://www.rockbox.org/ |
04:54:18 | TLS | :) just in the main table on the front page :) |
04:54:35 | TLS | are you familiar with your own ipod model? |
04:54:54 | itsanick | why do i always over look the obvious? >_< |
04:54:55 | itsanick | yes i am |
04:55:01 | itsanick | iPod 2nd gen nano |
04:55:31 | TLS | okay cool :) i'm dealing with a goofy problem myself, hence, i'm here :) good day to you |
04:55:40 | itsanick | lol |
04:55:42 | itsanick | thanks |
04:55:51 | itsanick | does anyone know why 2nd nano gen aint supported? |
04:56:12 | psycho_maniac | i think that info is on the wiki |
04:56:25 | itsanick | im lazy >_> |
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04:57:25 | TLS | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus |
04:57:41 | TLS | Not Supported - the 2nd Gen Nano has completely different hardware to the other iPods (requiring a brand new port) |
04:57:45 | TLS | oops, he left |
04:57:46 | webguest22 | any ideas for my question? |
04:58:47 | TLS | what are you trying to do? it looks to me that you're setting up your rockbox build folder? i'm trying to do the same, but i'm fumbling through the darkness :) |
04:59:58 | webguest22 | i'm currently following zajacattacks's guide on how to do the bootloader patching on windows but i'm stuck on the command prompt part. |
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05:00:00 | scorche | TLS: ah...seems i didnt read :) |
05:00:11 | scorche | so what happens when you try to compile? |
05:00:52 | webguest22 | was that question directed at me? |
05:00:57 | scorche | no |
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05:01:01 | webguest22 | okay |
05:01:37 | TLS | that's the thing, i don't really know how to use cygwin. it's installed and sitting happily as prompt on my computer, but i don't really know how to use it. even upon the event that i'm ready to compile, i'm not sure what i have to do to _start_ compiling |
05:01:54 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
05:02:04 | scorche | also, you might want to read a linux terminal tutorial |
05:02:23 | TLS | that's sortof my thought too :) |
05:02:33 | TLS | any suggestion in particular? |
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05:03:17 | scorche | that is my suggestion :) |
05:03:25 | webguest22 | any suggestions for me |
05:03:45 | * | scorche is trying to eat ;)( |
05:05:37 | TLS | no, i meant a suggestion for specific liux terminal tutorial :) |
05:05:57 | advcomp2019 | webguest22, are you using \ or / |
05:06:38 | scorche | TLS: google might come up with a decent one...i dont know how good any which one is |
05:07:12 | TLS | scorche: okies, thanks muchly |
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05:08:49 | webguest22 | i'm using / |
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05:09:09 | advcomp2019 | try \ |
05:09:36 | webguest22 | i don't see that option on my keyboard |
05:11:12 | webguest22 | is there a key which has that symbol |
05:11:33 | advcomp2019 | it is usually above or near the enter or tab keys |
05:11:42 | webguest22 | found it |
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05:16:40 | webguest22 | okay, now i get "C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>" instead of "C:\WINDOWS>, which i hope is right. Now what do i typr after the C:\WINDOWS\e200tool> ? |
05:17:10 | webguest22 | type* |
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05:20:32 | webguest22 | C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom |
05:20:33 | webguest22 | e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 |
05:20:33 | webguest22 | Searching for device 0781:0720 ... found! |
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05:20:33 | webguest22 | Initializing USB stub (4780 bytes) ... |
05:20:33 | webguest22 | Bulk write error (-22, Invalid argument) |
05:20:42 | webguest22 | that's hat i get |
05:20:47 | webguest22 | what* |
05:21:06 | psycho_maniac | anybody know how to get vmware uncurrupted? maybe a reinstall? |
05:21:19 | scorche | webguest22: if you are having issues with a different person's instructions, then ask them, as they wrote them |
05:21:40 | webguest22 | that person is not online |
05:21:49 | scorche | then wait? |
05:22:12 | webguest22 | it's 11:30 at night and i'm going to bed soon |
05:22:18 | scorche | ok.. |
05:22:19 | JdGordon | wait... |
05:22:34 | scorche | (wait for someone that will help, or him) |
05:22:37 | JdGordon | how did you get e200tool working in windows? |
05:23:11 | JdGordon | webguest22: ^ |
05:23:45 | scorche | i think some people have... JdGordon: see the sandisk install forums, possibly?,,,i think i remember something about that there... |
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05:23:51 | * | scorche is still catching up |
05:24:18 | JdGordon | unless its changed since i was last in there, someone got it working but didnt post the dirver .inf which is needed |
05:24:23 | JdGordon | or something |
05:27:09 | webguest22 | i think it changed because someone reported that it worked successfuly |
05:27:15 | krazykit | psycho_maniac, i'd try reinstalling vmware itself first, then redownloading the vmware image |
05:28:06 | psycho_maniac | well i was going to reinstall and noticed it had a repair button. so im trying that first. |
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05:28:48 | psycho_maniac | which seems pretty much like a reinstall |
05:29:24 | advcomp2019 | JdGordon, zajacattack posted the stuff to do it in windows xp |
05:29:35 | JdGordon | linkage? |
05:29:57 | advcomp2019 | it is in the wiki on rockbox |
05:30:27 | JdGordon | hmm i see... |
05:30:37 | * | JdGordon should work in his proper e200r installer again |
05:32:03 | psycho_maniac | if i reinstall vmware my source in /home will still be there correct? |
05:33:49 | scorche | yes...vmware is just the program that loads the images |
05:36:19 | psycho_maniac | how do i uninstall vmware? i dont see a uninstall icon |
05:37:58 | anonobomber | psycho_maniac: depends on how you installed it |
05:38:12 | anonobomber | psycho_maniac: did you install it with the .rpm or with the .tar.gz perl installer? |
05:39:04 | anonobomber | psycho_maniac: if you installed it with the non-rpm installer then you should have a file /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl that you would run to remove it |
05:39:26 | anonobomber | if you used the rpm package then all you have to do is 'rpm -e VMware-*' |
05:39:41 | psycho_maniac | i used the exe instalelr |
05:40:27 | anonobomber | oh sorry I don't do windows |
05:41:58 | webguest22 | "Now, execute e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom" how do i do that? |
05:42:40 | scorche | exactly as it says |
05:43:07 | webguest22 | do i double-click it? |
05:43:26 | scorche | does it say to? |
05:43:40 | webguest22 | it just says to execute it |
05:44:06 | scorche | type that in the command prompt |
05:44:14 | webguest22 | okay |
05:44:40 | psycho_maniac | anybody know windows? if i use the uninstall window will it remove the the rockbox stuff? ie the vurtial disk file |
05:45:00 | scorche | [20:31:02] <psycho_maniac> if i reinstall vmware my source in /home will still be there correct? |
05:45:00 | scorche | [20:32:48] <scorche> yes...vmware is just the program that loads the images |
05:45:30 | psycho_maniac | even if i have the vurtial disk file in the vmware player folders? |
05:45:53 | scorche | that depends how their uninstall script works...just move it |
05:48:04 | psycho_maniac | ill just uninstall it. i have the disk files backed up i see. |
05:48:47 | webguest22 | C:\WINDOWS\e200tool>e200tool recover BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom |
05:48:47 | webguest22 | e200tool v0.2.3-alpha (c) by MrH 2006, 2007 |
05:48:47 | webguest22 | Searching for device 0781:0720 ... found! |
05:48:47 | webguest22 | Initializing USB stub (4780 bytes) ... |
05:48:47 | webguest22 | Length write error (-5, Input/Output error) |
05:48:57 | webguest22 | that's exactly what i get |
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05:57:41 | psycho_maniac | could the vurtial disk get currupted? |
05:58:59 | scorche | it is a file |
05:59:09 | scorche | any file can "get corrupted" |
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06:01:20 | psycho_maniac | well if this dont work then ill just overwrite those files. i have no idea what happened. i was transfering a file and forgot and closed vmware player |
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06:31:17 | SS | hello is anyone awake? |
06:32:11 | SS | when i goto the database menu ... where is it reading these files from? i have 60,000+ mp3s and the search feature isnt working |
06:32:37 | SS | only 7 mp3s are in the database menu |
06:32:59 | BHSPitMonkey | it's reading the files from your database. |
06:33:08 | BHSPitMonkey | which you tell it to make. |
06:33:27 | SS | so how do i tell it to make a database with all of my files + folders recursively |
06:33:37 | BHSPitMonkey | although, the first time you looked there, it should have asked you if you wanted to make one |
06:33:52 | BHSPitMonkey | hmm... I don't have the menu in front of me right now, but look for it. |
06:33:56 | BHSPitMonkey | somewhere in some settings. |
06:34:16 | psycho_maniac | update database? |
06:34:31 | SS | ah ok |
06:34:34 | SS | thank you found it |
06:36:04 | SS | still the same files in the database :\ |
06:37:20 | psycho_maniac | what if you try initialize now (spelt wrong i think) |
06:38:43 | SS | tried that as well |
06:39:13 | SS | maybe its sitll updating in the background |
06:39:21 | SS | doesnt feel like anythings moving though |
06:40:07 | psycho_maniac | do you see the disk access icon in the top right corner on the status bar? |
06:41:02 | SS | what does it look like? a cd with a wrench? |
06:41:15 | SS | or a cd? lol the icon is tiny |
06:41:26 | psycho_maniac | yes |
06:41:33 | SS | k yep |
06:41:47 | psycho_maniac | are you playing music? |
06:41:59 | SS | nope |
06:42:14 | SS | should be updating |
06:42:17 | SS | thank you |
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07:07:34 | cka3ka | hey guys, any non-idle engineers here? |
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07:07:49 | * | cka3ka hopes for a yes from anyone |
07:07:56 | cka3ka | really...anyone? |
07:08:25 | hcs | if you have a question about rockbox, ask it |
07:08:29 | scorche | you typically get better results if you ask a specific question....and wait more than 22 seconds before asking again |
07:08:48 | cka3ka | advcomp2019: hahaha, thanks =-) nah, i used to idle here a lot, but i need to interview an |
07:08:54 | cka3ka | 'engineer' for a college course |
07:09:14 | cka3ka | hahaha, thanks =-) nah, i used to idle here a lot, but i need to interview an 'engineer' for a college course |
07:09:20 | cka3ka | excuse the double type... |
07:09:33 | scorche | "engineer" is a very broad term |
07:09:43 | cka3ka | i know =\ which is why im having a hard time |
07:09:56 | cka3ka | basically, any sort of engineer, be it chemical or aerospace |
07:10:11 | scorche | mind coming into rockbox-community?....this si a bit offtopic here |
07:10:33 | cka3ka | good call |
07:10:45 | cka3ka | give me a sec, i was running java, startin up mirc |
07:11:04 | scorche | looks like cgi:irc to me (not java ;) |
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07:12:51 | timekeeper | lol, I just loaded rockbox onto my ipod video U2... |
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07:13:00 | timekeeper | let's just say it doesnt play well with untagged chinese songs :( |
07:13:00 | Cka3ka | there we go |
07:13:05 | timekeeper | I have half a playlist of <untagged> |
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07:15:02 | psycho_maniac | timekeeper, that means your files are not tagged correctly |
07:15:19 | scorche | ...or untagged, as it says |
07:15:56 | scorche | timekeeper: what were you expecting it to do with untagged songs?...pull the information out of the air? |
07:17:31 | timekeeper | lol |
07:17:37 | timekeeper | How come it didnt show in original firmware? |
07:17:47 | timekeeper | anyway I can fix it? |
07:17:54 | scorche | tag your songs properly |
07:17:58 | timekeeper | why doesnt it grab the name from the mp3 filename? because ipod garbles it? |
07:18:05 | timekeeper | can I use itunes to tag em |
07:18:06 | scorche | itunes does, yes |
07:18:12 | timekeeper | ok |
07:18:14 | timekeeper | thanks |
07:18:33 | scorche | but also, people can name their files in many many different ways...how would it know what is artist, etc? |
07:18:51 | timekeeper | true |
07:18:55 | timekeeper | but it may give me a clue |
07:18:59 | timekeeper | I had no idea they were untagged |
07:19:35 | timekeeper | I really really like the crossfading feature though |
07:19:40 | timekeeper | surprising the ofw didnt have it |
07:19:52 | timekeeper | do I need to turn rockbox off when I plug in the usb? |
07:20:05 | scorche | no...it should reboot into emergency disk mode |
07:20:25 | timekeeper | um, 'emergency'...ok |
07:20:33 | scorche | it is just what they call it |
07:20:42 | timekeeper | and I can sync stuff and all normally |
07:20:44 | timekeeper | oh neat |
07:20:47 | timekeeper | the ofw screen just came up |
07:22:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: whoa, one single attribute and such a big delta... |
07:22:25 | psycho_maniac | with the words "do not disconnect"? |
07:23:42 | amiconn | preglow: The principle of the log_s16p16 in gray_core.c can be used to make versions for other fixed point formats, and also a log10() |
07:26:13 | timekeeper | yeah psych |
07:26:25 | timekeeper | Strange, I see listings in itunes, how do I know which ones are untagged? |
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08:28:49 | chris_mt | nice to see a few folks here :) |
08:29:19 | chris_mt | anyone awake? |
08:31:43 | chris_mt | hmmm, not very exciting tonight, but kinda late in the US. |
08:31:55 | markun | I'm falling asleep here |
08:32:03 | chris_mt | i'm trying not to :D |
08:32:11 | markun | I think I'll just go |
08:32:14 | chris_mt | working on the ines port |
08:32:21 | markun | ah, good |
08:32:25 | chris_mt | infones I guess. |
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08:32:29 | markun | any progress? |
08:32:35 | chris_mt | kinda |
08:32:35 | markun | 'morning' LinusN |
08:32:39 | chris_mt | on ipod 5.5g |
08:32:44 | LinusN | morning |
08:32:57 | chris_mt | got it running at a decent speed by enabling the skip frames feature |
08:33:12 | chris_mt | and I optimized the framebuffer access in a few places. |
08:33:20 | chris_mt | now i'm messing with button mapping |
08:33:34 | amiconn | mo0ning |
08:33:45 | chris_mt | anyone played much with rockboy? |
08:33:57 | chris_mt | I'm wondering what the standard button mappings are for ipod |
08:34:11 | markun | chris_mt: should be in the source |
08:34:18 | chris_mt | yeah, I suppose :) |
08:34:32 | chris_mt | easier to ask. |
08:34:57 | chris_mt | so I have megaman 3 running nice and pretty here, but controls aren't working well. |
08:35:03 | chris_mt | and no sound. |
08:36:13 | chris_mt | anyone know about profling on rockbox? I understand it's 68k platforms only for now... |
08:36:59 | chris_mt | so, markun, linusn, what's your role with rockbox? users? fans? developers? |
08:37:08 | LinusN | founder |
08:37:14 | chris_mt | nice! |
08:37:21 | chris_mt | I just discovered it. |
08:37:37 | chris_mt | got an ipod last thursday and have been coding since then. |
08:37:39 | chris_mt | :) |
08:37:45 | LinusN | greato |
08:37:53 | chris_mt | very cool platform. |
08:38:23 | chris_mt | so are you associated with the archos platform somehow? |
08:38:29 | chris_mt | I'm not sure how that all works. |
08:38:41 | chris_mt | is it a sponsored project? |
08:40:01 | LinusN | well, the project began with the archos platform, so yes |
08:40:13 | LinusN | we accept donations, but that's about it |
08:40:34 | LinusN | we have some sponsored servers and bandwidth |
08:41:01 | chris_mt | do you work for archos? |
08:41:04 | chris_mt | just curious. |
08:41:12 | chris_mt | I'm looking at their site now. |
08:41:27 | chris_mt | the yoga girl is hot. :) |
08:42:32 | LinusN | no, i don't work for archos |
08:42:51 | LinusN | we have had absolutely no help from any manufacturer |
08:43:18 | * | ddalton great we have a voice maintainer! |
08:43:20 | LinusN | well, that was not entirely true, some chip manufacturers have actually helped with information |
08:43:32 | chris_mt | was archos the first platform rockbox ran on? I was under the impression that it was driven by the archos product. |
08:43:35 | chris_mt | but maybe not... |
08:43:36 | LinusN | and Sandisk did send us two sansas for the sansa porting project |
08:43:42 | chris_mt | wow, cool. |
08:44:00 | LinusN | yes, the Archos Studio 6000 was the first rockbox platform |
08:44:02 | chris_mt | my girlfriend has an e260 so I may get involved with that as well. |
08:44:12 | ddalton | LinusN: thanks for all your help last night. I know it must have been frustrating for you :-). But I really appreciate your help. It is working. I just need to fix the battery_access thing so it doesn't repeat itself. |
08:44:12 | chris_mt | I see. |
08:44:25 | LinusN | ddalton: great! |
08:44:59 | chris_mt | this channel looks to be pretty active at certain times. Are most people in the US or where? |
08:45:14 | chris_mt | not too active right now |
08:45:38 | LinusN | we are from all over the place |
08:45:55 | chris_mt | I'm in Montana, USA |
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08:54:30 | markun | chris_mt: and I'm just a dev |
08:55:07 | markun | doing missionary work for rockbox in the US right now :) |
08:55:07 | BigBambi | Don't do yourself down! |
08:55:20 | BigBambi | Spreading the word |
08:55:33 | chris_mt | well, that's pretty cool too. I'm a dev in the real world, but just discovered rockbox as part of my effort to learn some embedded stuff |
08:55:50 | markun | at the google devcon there were quite a few "rockbox! cool!" shouts when people saw our t-shirts |
08:56:00 | BigBambi | Sweet |
08:56:00 | markun | s/devcon/summit/ |
08:56:22 | chris_mt | I liked rockbox because it reminds me of pre-windows development |
08:56:29 | GodEater_ | markun: who else went with you ? |
08:56:42 | markun | GodEater_: kkurbjun and scorche |
08:57:08 | markun | we also went on a daytrip to San Fancisco together, was a lot of fun |
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08:57:56 | BigBambi | Gah, meeting |
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08:58:08 | GodEater_ | markun: are you writing up the tales of your trip ? |
08:58:35 | markun | if I was a blogger I probably would |
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08:58:47 | markun | so: no |
08:58:55 | chris_mt | just ran out of wine. Probably bed time soon. |
08:59:03 | GodEater_ | markun: was there nothing interesting to report then ? |
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09:00:04 | markun | the summit was quite interesting, I learned a lot about how we could do things better next year |
09:00:18 | markun | I'll write it down in a wiki |
09:00:34 | petur | yes please ;) |
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09:01:15 | markun | there is a gsoc summit with notes of the various discussion. I could start by copy-pasting from there |
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09:01:34 | markun | gsco wiki is what I meant |
09:01:42 | markun | getting too tired :( |
09:02:12 | markun | I can't really get used to this timezone, and tomorrow I will fly into another one.. |
09:02:45 | * | markun waves good night |
09:02:57 | chris_mt | 'night |
09:03:01 | petur | 'night |
09:03:02 | JdGordon | ... it has begun... |
09:03:12 | JdGordon | expet lots of red deltas ... |
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09:04:39 | Llorean | "it"? |
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09:07:29 | chris_mt | Anyone know if there is any work specific to the ipod 5.5g that needs to be done? |
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09:07:47 | chris_mt | Other than improving battery life? |
09:07:49 | chris_mt | :) |
09:09:11 | LinusN | chris_mt: the piezo driver? |
09:09:25 | chris_mt | so that's what makes the clickly scroll wheel sound"? |
09:09:30 | LinusN | yes |
09:09:30 | chris_mt | interesting... |
09:09:38 | chris_mt | any hardware docs out there? |
09:09:42 | LinusN | haha |
09:09:46 | LinusN | no |
09:09:48 | chris_mt | I have not looked |
09:09:51 | chris_mt | hmmm |
09:10:01 | chris_mt | some disassembly required, I presume? |
09:10:05 | amiconn | Piezo applies to all ipods |
09:10:09 | chris_mt | might be fun... |
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09:10:11 | LinusN | yes, but i believe there is a patch in the tracker |
09:10:36 | amiconn | The piezo i/f is known, it's just that we need to come up with a nice mechanism to use it |
09:10:46 | chris_mt | ok |
09:10:47 | amiconn | (synchronous to scroll steps or whatever) |
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09:11:34 | chris_mt | so, is it correct that scroll wheel acceleration is not available to the viewer code? |
09:11:59 | chris_mt | I see some discussion of the scroll speed, but nothing about acceleration - just repeat rate |
09:12:12 | LinusN | there is a patch for that too |
09:12:29 | chris_mt | aaaaah. good. scrolling on the ipod is a bit painful |
09:12:36 | LinusN | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7738 |
09:12:53 | Llorean | What's holding back the scrolling patch anymore? |
09:13:12 | chris_mt | I thought that might be a nice thing to jump into, but the nightly build doesn't seem to have support |
09:13:56 | chris_mt | my other thought was porting a RAW image viewer. |
09:14:34 | * | GodEater_ wants to know why 7738 still isn't ready for commit too |
09:15:07 | * | Zagor_ just corrupted his c250 fat... |
09:15:19 | petur | good boy |
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09:16:02 | chris_mt | so i'm looking at the 7738 diff, but I'm not good at this stuff. Will this be available to the plugin API? |
09:16:14 | amiconn | Is the c200 fat16 formatted? |
09:16:26 | Zagor | amiconn: yes |
09:17:02 | Zagor | but it seems like the OF supports fat32 too. at least it's not complaining... |
09:17:45 | chris_mt | it doesn't appear to be... |
09:19:57 | pixelma | Llorean: around? |
09:20:06 | Llorean | pixelma: At the moment |
09:21:08 | pixelma | nothing important, just found another occurance of "cvs builds" in the posting guidelines (in the unsupported builds subforum) |
09:21:17 | Llorean | I'll go fix |
09:22:25 | pixelma | and am I right in thinking that the newest H10 build there should be named differently? How would you go about that? |
09:23:18 | Llorean | I'm honestly not sure how I feel about that one. |
09:23:36 | Llorean | I'd pretty much just assumed everyone would want to give their build some sort of unique name so that people could remember which build was which |
09:24:03 | Llorean | Maybe I'll see if he's named it over at misticriver. |
09:24:13 | Llorean | Assuming the forums speed up any time soon |
09:24:15 | pixelma | ah, I see |
09:24:21 | petur | sdoyon needs his name mentioned in the conversion table for SVN activity... |
09:25:24 | pixelma | Llorean: maybe I could just ask him in the thread |
09:25:57 | Llorean | I'll just rename it to "TheMono's Build" for now, and leave a note in his thread suggesting he pick a better name if it's not suitable |
09:26:29 | pixelma | ok, thank you |
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09:32:22 | chris_mt | 'night all. |
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09:45:54 | pondlife | Zagor: sdoyon needs his proper name putting into the SVN table... and Flyspray rights too. |
09:46:16 | Zagor | righto |
09:47:54 | ddalton | LinusN: would the battery level go from 50% to 40% and then up to 60%? |
09:48:14 | pondlife | ddalton: It might |
09:48:56 | pondlife | It probably won't, but you shouldn't make assumptions. |
09:49:32 | ddalton | Pondlife: then would it go from like 50 up to 70? |
09:49:42 | ddalton | or would it stay roughly the same? |
09:55:21 | pondlife | Like I said, don't make assumptions |
09:55:24 | pondlife | It might do |
09:55:38 | pondlife | It *might* be a random number generator |
09:55:54 | pondlife | if it were particularly broken :) |
09:56:43 | pondlife | Some targets have had a rather inaccurate estimate when first powered up, with the battery level rising and falling as the device warms. |
09:57:16 | pondlife | I think that's been largely fixed now, but your code shouldn't assume a nice smooth progression, in any direction. |
09:58:22 | Bagder | a device going from very cold to warm can get a great boost in battery level |
09:58:44 | Bagder | which in itself is very annoying... |
09:59:00 | Bagder | since the device won't power up due to "low battery" if it's too cold |
09:59:06 | pondlife | ddalton: Basically, if your algorithm cares about this sort of detail, it's probably too complicated :) |
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10:00:56 | pondlife | Hi Nico_P |
10:01:10 | pondlife | What did you do to fix the 7 second audio start issue? |
10:01:12 | Nico_P | hi |
10:01:33 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok I will just make it go off once at 50 and the other levels that I set 20 and 5 |
10:01:39 | ddalton | roughly |
10:02:09 | pondlife | No need for a roughly :) Pop a patch up on Flyspray and I'll check it over |
10:02:13 | Nico_P | pondlife: the codec was forced to wait for the whole file to be buffered I think |
10:02:24 | pondlife | Aha, but not any more. |
10:02:56 | Nico_P | pondlife: so I added something similar to audio_yield_codecs which allows buffering to be interrupted by a new queue event |
10:03:20 | Nico_P | and now audio starts instantaneoulsy, whatever the size of the file :) |
10:04:37 | ddalton | Pondlife: I just need to compile it. and test |
10:04:46 | ddalton | I can't get it working on the sim. |
10:05:29 | pondlife | I don't know for sure, but I doubt the sim simulates charging. |
10:05:44 | ddalton | no the battery level stuff |
10:06:02 | pondlife | However you should be able to get one set of warnings (assuming the sim starts at 100%) |
10:06:31 | ddalton | let me see if I can just compile for the sim with out my changes to any sim code then I will test on my player |
10:08:23 | petur | any of the GSoC summit visitors here to get us a copy of the picture hidden behind http://googlesummerofcode.jot.com/GroupPhoto2007 ? |
10:10:42 | ddalton | Pondlife: I couldn't find the right place for the call to my function. Let me upload the patch if it works then you will see. |
10:11:34 | ddalton | actually I have a lot of errors so you might have to wait a little bit |
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10:12:10 | pondlife | No rush, I won't have time today I fear. |
10:13:15 | Bagder | petur: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/GSoC2007MentorSummitStairs-MarkedUp.jpg |
10:13:40 | petur | thanks! |
10:14:19 | Bagder | seeing any known faces? |
10:14:23 | ddalton | LinusN: what is wrong with this? (It is an array) queue_broadcast(SYS_BATTERY_UPDATE, send_level [0]); |
10:14:58 | ddalton | pondlife: ok thanks. I will just neeed to test it as well |
10:15:00 | petur | Bagder: no, you? |
10:15:09 | ddalton | I will to try to get up there as soon as I can |
10:15:13 | ddalton | will try |
10:15:22 | Bagder | petur: no, and the wiki hardly lists anyone yet |
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10:15:54 | petur | the pic is smallish too |
10:15:56 | Bagder | markun shaved off his beard so I bet he's hard to find ;-) |
10:16:30 | petur | Bagder: I have seen a pic of him post-beard but I still fail to spot him |
10:17:07 | petur | somebody ought to buy Google a better camera |
10:17:08 | Bagder | yes, they should've posted a higher resolution pic |
10:17:13 | Nico_P | they should've worn rockbox shirts :) |
10:17:20 | Bagder | indeed! |
10:17:22 | petur | yes! |
10:17:36 | Bagder | they should be punished for not having that! |
10:17:40 | Bagder | :-) |
10:25:33 | pixelma | what about the 2 guys to the left of R6 with the blueish shirts (one sitting in the middle) - I could *imagine* that this is scorche and markun, but it is really hard to say, quite blurry already |
10:26:22 | Bagder | could be the 2006 shirts, yes |
10:26:26 | pixelma | only they can tell |
10:27:00 | pondlife | scorche: ? markun: ? |
10:27:30 | petur | yes, looks like some yellow/black on the blue tshirt... |
10:27:40 | pondlife | Not many female mentors, were there? |
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10:28:08 | Bagder | I could spot one there, Leslie who's a google employee... |
10:28:18 | Bagder | hm, two actually |
10:28:28 | Nico_P | Bagder: where is she ? |
10:28:37 | Bagder | R10, leftmost |
10:29:28 | Bagder | R12 has a Tiffany (google) |
10:29:49 | Bagder | but over all, not a lot of females... |
10:30:03 | petur | pixelma for mentoring next year :) |
10:30:44 | pixelma | oy, what project would that be? |
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10:31:10 | GodEater_ | Rockbox The Movie |
10:31:17 | petur | pick one from the wiki ;) |
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10:32:44 | delYsid | hey, sdoyon has got svn access!!! Great! |
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10:43:24 | ddalton | delYsid: I know. Hopefully we can get a couple of patches excepted. But he can't just except what ever he wants. |
10:44:34 | * | pondlife wants to see playback.c - The Movie |
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10:44:56 | pondlife | What a surreal thing that would be.. I suspect no-one would follow the plot... |
10:45:04 | petur | hehe |
10:46:32 | Bagder | ok, so this google shot is taken from a flikr pic which is 1024 pixels wide |
10:47:10 | Bagder | oddly enough |
10:47:19 | petur | gosh, welcome to the hi-tec world |
10:49:30 | * | pondlife keeps getting electric shocks from his H300. |
10:49:57 | petur | it's taking revenge for all the messing you do |
10:50:27 | pondlife | There's about 25V between the ground on the H300 and my USB/PC case/microphone ground |
10:50:34 | pondlife | Enough to make sparks |
10:50:41 | pondlife | And tingle unpleasantly |
10:50:54 | pondlife | Seems to be my H300s AC adapter... |
10:51:14 | petur | btw, if anybody has a 20GB for my h320, or a backside to make it a h340, let me know... the h320 I bought has a bad disk :/ |
10:51:15 | pondlife | This has happened in the past, but I've recently got more metal around me |
10:52:15 | Bagder | http://flickr.com/photos/mayhem/1518425696/ |
10:52:21 | * | ddalton Has a good feeling the sim will compile :-) |
10:52:21 | Bagder | that's the source of the pic |
10:54:09 | pondlife | Definitely a Rockbox T-shirt there. |
10:54:39 | pondlife | Dark Rock, and light box |
10:55:02 | petur | omg, that guy in front with the orange shirt has a strange clothing habit :) |
10:55:37 | pondlife | ? |
10:55:42 | Bagder | I bet he's dutch ;-) |
10:55:56 | pondlife | Huh, is orange out of fashion again? |
10:56:10 | petur | pondlife: there's another (unfocused) pic on that flickr page |
10:56:26 | pondlife | Urgh |
10:56:33 | pondlife | I wish you'd not told me |
10:56:38 | Bagder | hahaha |
10:57:06 | ddalton | Ok one question: |
10:57:22 | ddalton | why do devs not like extra menu options? |
10:57:45 | pondlife | Depends on what they aree |
10:57:48 | pondlife | are, even |
10:58:24 | ddalton | Pondlife: why? |
10:58:46 | pondlife | Sometimes it's possible to avoid an extra option, and the associated increase in code size (and resulting loss in battery life) |
10:59:18 | ddalton | so one option contributes to battery life? |
10:59:21 | pondlife | Also, more options means more combinations to test and harder to support |
10:59:47 | ddalton | and what is rong with FS #5555 |
10:59:49 | pondlife | Larger code reduces audio buffer, resulting in more disk activity and hence shorter battery life |
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11:00:08 | ddalton | ok |
11:00:17 | ddalton | so voice file size isn't an issue? |
11:00:28 | pondlife | That too |
11:00:41 | pondlife | But voice is at least optional. |
11:00:54 | ddalton | Pondlife: Do you use voice? |
11:01:18 | pondlife | Yes, when driving |
11:02:11 | pondlife | But not when DJ-ing |
11:02:43 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok and are you using any of sdoyon's patches? |
11:02:48 | pondlife | No |
11:02:52 | ddalton | ok |
11:03:04 | pondlife | I avoid patches, aside from testing them - one at a time. |
11:06:44 | ddalton | Pondlife: do you have time to test my patch? just make sure it doesn't break the sim? |
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11:06:58 | ddalton | because not sure if it is my patch or the computer here |
11:07:22 | pondlife | Is it on FlySpray? |
11:07:40 | ddalton | no its not done yet. |
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11:07:48 | pondlife | OK, well I'll wait then |
11:07:49 | ddalton | can I put it on my website for you to get? |
11:07:58 | pondlife | Not if it's not done, no point |
11:08:12 | ddalton | ok all that needs to be done is testing and a setting added |
11:08:22 | ddalton | if it works of course |
11:08:23 | pondlife | Finish it first, no point in external testing until. |
11:08:36 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok |
11:08:47 | pondlife | If I test it, then you change it, I'd need to test again. :) |
11:09:06 | ddalton | yes |
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11:16:49 | ddalton | good thing you didn't test it it doesn't work |
11:16:52 | ddalton | :-( |
11:22:59 | Nico_P | haha that orange guy is awesome ! |
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11:25:33 | SlimG2 | Does the latest Rockbox firmware work with iPod classic 80GB ? |
11:26:24 | SlimG2 | Some places it says it does, other places it says it doesn't, So I'm asking |
11:26:37 | Zagor | SlimG2: no |
11:26:56 | Zagor | the rockbox web page says it doesn't. that's a pretty reputable source. |
11:27:10 | Bagder | no rockbox places say so |
11:29:31 | SlimG2 | So the "classic" version isn't the same as the "video" version? (I thought so since "classic" seemed to play videos) |
11:29:43 | Bagder | no, the "classic" is 6th gen |
11:29:46 | ddalton | no |
11:29:48 | Bagder | the video is 5 or 5.5 gen |
11:30:07 | Bagder | which of course can be a bit confusing... |
11:30:30 | Zagor | well the front page specifically says "not the classic", so it shouldn't be very confusing |
11:30:35 | Bagder | true |
11:30:38 | SlimG2 | oh, okay, now I know that :) |
11:31:17 | SlimG2 | I just got confused by the red text ontop of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodEightyGB |
11:31:30 | SlimG2 | and my lacking iPod-knowlege |
11:31:31 | Bagder | ah |
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11:32:54 | Bagder | updated now |
11:37:45 | ddalton | Pondlife: got some time just to help me with one thing? |
11:38:06 | pondlife | Go on |
11:38:48 | ddalton | Ok can you help me with my patch? It talks when I boot up and the battery is below 50 but if I plug in the charger and remove it it doesn't talk. Should I upload my patch? |
11:39:54 | pondlife | Yes |
11:42:19 | ddalton | Pondlife: one note. I did if battery less 50 and greater 21 since I want the correct value to be set to the variable. Here is my patch so far. http://pastebin.ca/raw/730535 |
11:43:37 | preglow | amiconn: yes, i expected so, but still don't know how |
11:45:20 | ddalton | Pondlife: did the link work? |
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11:49:41 | pondlife | ddalton: Why all the range checks? |
11:50:24 | ddalton | Pondlife: so it only goes off at the right times |
11:50:34 | ddalton | do you know how it could be simplified? |
11:50:43 | pondlife | That code is definitely over-complicated.. |
11:50:58 | * | ddalton Will take another look |
11:51:09 | pondlife | I'll pop a patch up, untested |
11:51:42 | ddalton | so are you say8ing I shouldn't bother simplifying my copy? |
11:51:46 | ddalton | saying |
11:51:55 | pondlife | Yep |
11:52:00 | pondlife | Give me 5 ins |
11:52:03 | pondlife | mins, even |
11:52:24 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok thanks |
11:52:36 | ddalton | ok |
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11:53:57 | pondlife | Which percentages should warn? |
11:53:59 | pondlife | 5/20/50? |
11:54:15 | ddalton | pondlife: yes |
11:54:18 | ddalton | all of those |
11:54:39 | pondlife | So what on earth are the references to 75/85 etc doing? |
11:54:47 | pondlife | 70/60 etc... |
11:54:58 | ddalton | Pondlife: making sure it won't repeat over and over again. |
11:55:18 | ddalton | I saw it do that and it wouldn't stop talking I needed to plug in the charger or shutdown the player |
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11:56:38 | ddalton | Pondlife: what needs simplifying? |
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12:04:50 | pixelma | what exactly is now spoken in the simple eq screen? |
12:05:22 | SlimG2 | What DAP player would you reccommend me to be used with Rockbox? much storagespace is preferable |
12:05:54 | ddalton | pixelma: haven't checked |
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12:11:17 | ddalton | Pondlife: any luck with the patch? |
12:11:26 | pondlife | Maybe, not tested... |
12:11:38 | pondlife | Will paste one for you to try though |
12:12:13 | preglow | argh, ac messed up my easy enable sw tone controls scheme |
12:12:29 | pondlife | ac? |
12:12:35 | preglow | austriancoder |
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12:17:27 | pondlife | ddalton: Does http://pastebin.ca/730556 work? |
12:18:33 | ddalton | Pondlife: let me try |
12:18:55 | pondlife | Ah, send_level() should be static too... |
12:23:02 | ddalton | ok I will change that. |
12:24:44 | ddalton | Pondlife: I get "patch: **** malformed patch at line 174: " |
12:24:52 | ddalton | what should I do? |
12:25:57 | pondlife | ddalton: Can you get the patch from pondlife.homeip.net/images/ddt.patch">http://pondlife.homeip.net/images/ddt.patch |
12:26:04 | ddalton | ok thanks |
12:26:12 | pondlife | If not, please create a FlySpray entry and point me to it |
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12:28:40 | ddalton | Pondlife: applied just building now |
12:28:57 | pondlife | OK, it builds, but that's all I can guarantee! |
12:29:14 | ddalton | ok do you think it will work? |
12:29:18 | pondlife | Hopefully |
12:29:40 | ddalton | I didn't really look at it but does it recet after a charge? |
12:30:04 | pondlife | You had 2 problems. (1) Your tests were overcomplicated and (2) you didn't put the charger insert/remove check in the right place. |
12:31:16 | ddalton | unfortunately it doesn't build here. errors on line 465 1205 1204 |
12:31:45 | ddalton | "normal build" |
12:32:36 | pondlife | Which device? |
12:32:38 | ddalton | do you know waht the problem is? |
12:32:44 | ddalton | h300 |
12:33:11 | pondlife | Yes. |
12:33:19 | pondlife | Can you please create a FlySpray entry |
12:33:31 | ddalton | ok patch should it be? |
12:33:35 | pondlife | Yes |
12:33:42 | ddalton | and what do I say and attach? |
12:34:59 | ddalton | should I just say "A work in progress. But the batterly level will soon be spoken automatically at 50%, 20% and 5%" |
12:35:04 | pondlife | Just describe what you think the patch should do |
12:35:23 | pondlife | I'll attach an attempt, but not much time to do further work now |
12:35:37 | ddalton | ok |
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12:39:34 | Isolinear | Sooo... What is the difference between http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml and http://build.rockbox.org/? |
12:39:41 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok it is FS #7910 |
12:39:57 | pondlife | OK, patch coming now for you to try |
12:40:05 | Bagder | Isolinear: daily is built (just) daily, the build ones are built after every commit |
12:40:18 | Isolinear | Gotcha. |
12:40:22 | ddalton | Pondlife: thanks |
12:40:54 | safetydan | cripes, how the heck am I going to fit the eq screen on the c200? |
12:41:02 | safetydan | Is that the smallest screen target we have? |
12:41:33 | pondlife | ddalton: Give it a go! |
12:42:39 | maxkelley | safetydan: no, it's not the smallest. |
12:42:43 | maxkelley | I don't believe. |
12:42:52 | maxkelley | there's a 128x64, I think. |
12:43:15 | pondlife | Ondio? |
12:43:24 | maxkelley | I dunno. |
12:43:25 | pixelma | that's the remotes - and the ifP |
12:43:35 | safetydan | actually I meant the ones capable of software equalizer |
12:43:41 | amiconn | preglow: I'll try to dig up the page again where the algorithm is described. What fp format would be best for eq plotting? |
12:43:46 | maxkelley | oh, then yeah :) |
12:43:58 | pixelma | pondlife: all supported Archos have the same screen size and yes it's the smallest - but they don't have the eq... |
12:43:58 | maxkelley | you can fit it :) |
12:44:29 | safetydan | maxkelley, it's going to be interesting to try |
12:44:31 | ddalton | Pondlife: thank you. I am building |
12:44:53 | pixelma | safetydan: n1s told me yesterday that the eq is shown on the remotes with one band at a time |
12:44:55 | maxkelley | I mean, it fits the existing eq.. how much bigger is your new one? |
12:45:23 | pixelma | maxkelley: it doesn't fit, the last band is missing on the c200 screen |
12:45:24 | maxkelley | safetydan: how is this supposed to look? a line graph, bars, what? |
12:45:52 | maxkelley | pixelma: oh, I thought it was supposed to be that way :) |
12:46:07 | safetydan | pixelma, that's one option |
12:46:28 | maxkelley | couldn't you fit them vertically? somehow.. |
12:46:35 | maxkelley | oh, I know. |
12:46:45 | safetydan | maxkelley, possibly, but not with all that information |
12:47:04 | maxkelley | have vertical sliders, that show only the sliders, spanning the width of the screen. |
12:47:29 | maxkelley | when a user selects that slider, the information and adjustment comes up in a bottom panel spanning the whole width of the screen |
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12:47:44 | maxkelley | maybe 2/3 of the height to the sliders, 1/3 to the bottom panel |
12:48:05 | maxkelley | anyways, I'm off to school. |
12:48:09 | maxkelley | good luck. |
12:48:10 | safetydan | maxkelley, that's also an option |
12:48:30 | ddalton | Pondlife: I think this one is going to compile. |
12:49:53 | ddalton | Pondlife: you thought my last one was to complicated. you should have seen the first one. I used an array. |
12:50:15 | ddalton | compiled just got to test |
12:51:06 | preglow | amiconn: i'm not quite sure yet, it actually looks like the current format would work fine |
12:51:37 | preglow | amiconn: the result is in decibels, and i don't really need 16 frac bits for that, so the current format should work fine |
12:52:14 | preglow | i just need to find out why the plot curves aren't placed correctly, and i would say this eq plotter is good to go |
12:52:49 | preglow | brb |
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12:54:30 | amiconn | log_s16p16 is natural logarithm though, not log10 |
12:54:33 | safetydan | hrm, the rio karma splits the eq menu into two parts, kind of like how we have it now |
12:54:50 | ddalton | Pondlife it is working!!! Thank you very much for your help. I will test it and add the setting. |
12:54:54 | safetydan | I wonder if there's much point in keeping the graphical version of the equalizer menu? |
12:55:00 | amiconn | I'll probably do a log10 and exp10 in the same format, which should replace the crude functions in the peakmeter code |
12:55:44 | pondlife | ddalton: Most important is that you understand why it is working ;) And compare your code to mine.... |
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13:00:15 | preglow | safetydan: i know |
13:00:54 | preglow | safetydan: the graphical version should be the standard one, if you ask me |
13:01:04 | preglow | we should make a nicer one, thoigh |
13:01:11 | preglow | though... |
13:01:42 | * | Isolinear agrees. |
13:03:17 | safetydan | preglow, interesting. I was thinking that the non-graphical menus have got a lot more useful and that maybe the graphical one doesn't offer much anymore |
13:03:29 | safetydan | well, apart from having everything on one screen anyway |
13:04:09 | Nico_P | safetydan: the non graphical settings are a bit too complicated for people like m who don't know much about signal processing |
13:04:33 | safetydan | Nico_P, even the simple one where it's just gain up and down? |
13:05:36 | Nico_P | these are all right |
13:07:19 | Isolinear | I like to shape the sound on the fly.. It's easier to make changes and compensate for them in other frequency ranges when it's all on one screen instead of trudging through menus. |
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13:07:57 | pondlife | ddalton: I put an alternative send_level() routine on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7910 ... |
13:08:15 | pondlife | Saves a few bytes here. |
13:08:24 | pondlife | Again, untested (beyond compiling) |
13:08:51 | ddalton | Pondlife: ok I will get that one. I have just modified mine though. :-( so it has the menu option |
13:09:26 | ddalton | I should really say patch by LinusN and pondlife don't you think pondlife? |
13:10:04 | pondlife | If you want, we're both in CREDITS already though ;) |
13:11:13 | ddalton | yeah what I was trying to say is that you guys did most of it I only did a little bit of coding. |
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13:13:38 | ddalton | Pondlife: are you on linux? |
13:13:42 | pondlife | No |
13:13:46 | pondlife | Win2K |
13:13:51 | ddalton | what are you on windows? |
13:15:21 | * | petur hugs W2K too |
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13:18:35 | GodEater_ | ddalton: pay no attention to them - they're both freaks ;) |
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13:19:47 | ddalton | Pondlife: what text editor do you use? |
13:19:47 | petur | we need sound-proof corners in here :) |
13:20:15 | pondlife | ddalton: Notepad... or notetab lite, or Visual Studio |
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13:20:50 | ddalton | so you need to do all the indenting by hand? |
13:21:02 | Zagor | psst, ntemacs |
13:21:19 | delYsid | Cool, the 4GB MicroSD-HC Card I just received does work nicely with rockbox on my Sansa. OF doesnt even recognize it but rockbox does. |
13:22:35 | preglow | safetydan: it's an overview thing, when i see all values at once, it's easier to grasp what i'm doing. also, trudging through the multilevel menus when adjusting stuff is just tedious |
13:22:51 | preglow | safetydan: i would actually like to remove the eq menu more than the graphical screen |
13:23:09 | preglow | the graphical one should be fitted to handle all needs, also voice ui ones |
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13:27:20 | safetydan | preglow, true that. If the graphical one can be voiced then there's no point keeping the other ones |
13:27:51 | preglow | but we need some maniac to fix it up a bit, though |
13:31:53 | preglow | also, i wonder how the eq plotter would best be placed |
13:34:20 | safetydan | maniac with time is all that it takes really |
13:35:00 | safetydan | the eq plotter could possibly be reached by holding down a button on the eq edit screen |
13:35:11 | safetydan | the graph would then appear over the top of the eq editor |
13:35:12 | preglow | yeah |
13:35:14 | preglow | that would be nice |
13:35:20 | safetydan | let go of the button and it goes away |
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13:35:33 | safetydan | not sure if there's enough buttons though |
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13:41:28 | preglow | almost certainly not on some targets |
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13:41:40 | preglow | i guess we could assign long press of select or something |
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13:54:09 | linuxstb_ | Interesting post about supporting encrypted asf files in ffmpeg - http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2007-October/036406.html |
13:56:08 | preglow | openssl is bloated? :/ |
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14:08:13 | Zagor | linuxstb: I love how the discussion is all about optimising invert() rather than the ability to decrypt the file... |
14:10:11 | preglow | hahah, yeah |
14:10:30 | * | bluebrother wishes to have an auto-duplicate removing logic for the tracker |
14:11:24 | linuxstb_ | Zagor: That's a typical ffmpeg conversation ;) And of course, portability to Crays... |
14:12:37 | preglow | that cracked me up |
14:12:54 | preglow | you're optimising something, and at the same time worrying about supporting machines that don't use twos complement |
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14:13:17 | bluebrother | don't we have FS #7908 already? At least for the targets where it is calibrated? |
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14:18:45 | Isolinear | Which targets are calibrated? |
14:19:11 | pixelma | bluebrother: no, not as he means, if I understand correctly... |
14:19:32 | pixelma | or... maybe I'm confused |
14:20:15 | Isolinear | Are you talking about calibrated the amount of power used vs. the known capacity of the battery to come up with an estimated battery life? |
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14:21:08 | Isolinear | *calculating, not calibrated... lol (sheesh, after 5am) |
14:33:48 | TMM | linuxstb_, what good is being able do decrypt ASF if we can't do it on a cray? :) |
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14:44:03 | low_light | safetydan: I have a patch for the graphical eq screen for the c200 |
14:44:14 | amiconn | hi low_light |
14:44:54 | low_light | hi amiconn ...borrowing pixelma's c200 I see |
14:45:28 | amiconn | Already tried video? |
14:46:28 | low_light | No. Is there an elephant's dream version for the c200? |
14:47:16 | amiconn | Use the widescreen version from ipod mini (144x80) |
14:47:42 | low_light | ah...I'll try later |
14:48:38 | amiconn | http://download.rockbox.org/mpeg/elephantsdream-q6-144x80-131kbps.mpg |
14:48:42 | TMM | linuxstb_, that's quite interesting... some people have too much time on their hands though, disassembly of your OWN code ;) |
14:48:47 | preglow | anyone have any nice ideas for a better eq screen? |
14:50:05 | massiveH | here is an "idea" http://www.serato.com/products/rane_series/Rane_Series_Parametric_EQ.gif |
14:50:48 | Zagor | massiveH: haha, yeah fit that onto a 132x96 screen :) |
14:50:58 | massiveH | hey, it's an idea... |
14:51:12 | pixelma | Zagor: what 132x96 screen? |
14:51:23 | massiveH | why not start with the best, and work it untill it fits... |
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14:51:44 | Zagor | pixelma: I can never remember the dimension of the c200 display... |
14:52:09 | pixelma | it's only 80 pixels high ;) |
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14:52:20 | low_light | Zagor: any luck the the microsd slot? |
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14:52:50 | Zagor | no I haven't looked at it anymore. I'm currently enjoying myself with usb code. |
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14:54:07 | delYsid | Is there a firmware update for the e200 that makes SDHC work? |
14:54:21 | Zagor | delYsid: yeah it's called rockbox :) |
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14:56:20 | delYsid | so I guess I gotta wait for proper usb mode :-) |
14:56:37 | TMM | what's SDHC? |
14:56:45 | Zagor | delYsid: yeah, it's a while away still |
14:56:46 | delYsid | It would be sooo much convenient if I could use my sansa as a sdhc card reader as well, not having to pull the card out and use a separete reader/writer to fill it. |
14:57:04 | delYsid | TMM: a variant of SD cards. |
14:57:10 | TMM | ah |
14:57:10 | Zagor | TMM: high capacity sd card |
14:57:16 | pixelma | hmm... I should probably put up my 2 patches that I like to have some feedback before committing on flyspray (one: enable recording (needed keymap change to make it compile at all) and I think I found usable buttons; two: better virtual keyboard button map (to me)) |
14:57:38 | Zagor | pixelma: for c200? |
14:57:51 | pixelma | yes, just wanted to add that info... |
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14:59:44 | Zagor | personally I think c200 is such a new target that ergonomic improvements like that don't need much discussion before committing. it's not like anyone has gotten very used to the old way anyway. |
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15:00:15 | hcs | has that stopped such changes anyway? |
15:00:35 | Zagor | hcs: well it can cause discussion |
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15:01:44 | low_light | pixelma: I'm I wrong or is there no shortcut keypress to return to the wps? (like play on the h140) |
15:01:50 | low_light | ^ for the c200 |
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15:03:28 | pixelma | there's a definition of a keycombo to doe that (rec+up) |
15:03:32 | pixelma | *do |
15:03:57 | linuxstb_ | Zagor: Will you be using any of the existing usb code in your implementation, or are you basically starting again from scratch? |
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15:04:31 | pixelma | low_light: and rec+up|repeat to stop from the browsers - I don't even know if that works correctly |
15:04:50 | Zagor | linuxstb: I'm starting again. I'm using some of the defines and structs from the linux driver, but that's about it. |
15:05:06 | TMM | Zagor, ah, thanks |
15:05:50 | Zagor | I started trying to just modify the existing code, but it became too messy |
15:06:20 | low_light | pixelma: I'm guessing I added those without testing :) |
15:06:44 | Nico_P | Zagor: what's the problem with ac's ? too much bloat ? |
15:07:03 | scorche | petur: pixelma: Bagder: R6 it is |
15:07:23 | scorche | we were wearing our blue shirts and Kkurbjun is between us |
15:07:33 | pixelma | do I get a price? ;) |
15:07:33 | Zagor | I wouldn't call it bloat, but it's too dynamic. it's basically a port of the linux stack, which is designed for extreme flexibility and driver hotplugging. we don't need that. |
15:07:43 | Nico_P | scorche: so you're on the left and markun is on the right ? |
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15:07:52 | donsdw | Is it okay to delete database files in .rockbox. |
15:07:58 | Zagor | removing all that "administrative" code makes for a huge reduction in complexity |
15:08:05 | scorche | yes |
15:08:13 | scorche | well, from where we are looking at it |
15:08:35 | preglow | Zagor: sounds great |
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15:09:14 | Nico_P | Zagor: yeah, sounds nice... maybe you should talk to ac about it when you get the chance |
15:09:52 | amiconn | low_light: Will we see m:robe 100 code entering svn soon? |
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15:10:39 | linuxstb_ | Nico_P: He's never around to talk about things with... |
15:10:43 | petur | I bet ac will like it... </sarcasm> |
15:11:05 | linuxstb_ | Of course not - we're basically telling him he wasted the summer... |
15:11:34 | petur | which in some way he did anyway... |
15:11:37 | Nico_P | well if he could help with the new one, what he learned during the summer wouldn't be in vain |
15:11:57 | preglow | not exactly our fault, now is it |
15:12:05 | * | scorche edits the page |
15:13:05 | donsdw | Is it okay to delete database files in .rockbox? scorche said yes, but I don't know if he was talking to me or not. : ) |
15:13:56 | scorche | i wasnt, but it is fine, provided you remove the right ones ;) |
15:14:13 | preglow | amiconn: did you find that page on making log() functions? |
15:14:18 | amiconn | yes |
15:15:33 | donsdw | Thanks guys. |
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15:16:58 | scorche | there are a few pictures (of people and things other than us) of the summit up at flickr...it is best to find one, then click on the set if they ahve one to get all |
15:17:06 | pixelma | donsdw: yes, it's harmless to delete them if you don't want to use the database or if you want to start it fresh - the database will tell you that it's not initialised and if you want to use it, you need to initialise again. |
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15:20:42 | preglow | seems the mentor summit was pretty much a male thing :P |
15:21:11 | scorche | 2 females (excluding google people who added 2 more) |
15:21:46 | scorche | you can see a few of us in http://picasaweb.google.com/wolf.bergenheim/GoogleSoCMentorSummit2007 too |
15:21:54 | preglow | the disappointing thing is i'm not really surprised by the huge amount of men anymoreC |
15:23:30 | low_light | amiconn: yes...I plan on taking one more stab at getting the buttons to work...looking through the OF disassembly instead of just the bootloader |
15:25:11 | preglow | amiconn: only thing you need to adjust to make the log function into log10 are the y related constants, yes? |
15:27:57 | Nico_P | preglow: is "log" the same as "ln" ? |
15:28:16 | scorche | Nico_P: no...ln is natural log |
15:28:42 | scorche | errrr.. |
15:28:56 | Nico_P | scorche: yeah, but for me log was log10, i.e. log(x) = ln(x)/ln(10) |
15:29:00 | * | scorche excuses himself to go get a coffee and not come back till he does |
15:29:18 | scorche | Nico_P: yeah...see above ;) |
15:29:22 | Nico_P | :) |
15:29:25 | preglow | Nico_P: aye |
15:29:51 | Nico_P | preglow: so then you just need to divide by ln(10), or am I missing something ? |
15:29:53 | preglow | i'm speaking libm here, log = natural log, log10 = base 10 log |
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15:30:17 | preglow | Nico_P: sure, but if amiconn needs a log10 anyway, then i'll just use that and save me a mul |
15:30:32 | Nico_P | ok |
15:30:52 | Rost | Hello, I'd like write acces to the wiki |
15:31:33 | amiconn | It's not just the constants, it depends on the slope of the function where to switch from power-of-2 steps to finer ones |
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15:41:06 | delYsid | Hmm, I'd find it very useful if the record button on the e200 were actually used for recording (if not in FM, record from mic, otherwise record from tuner). Are there any plans for this? |
15:42:02 | linuxstb_ | delYsid: What does the record button currently do? |
15:42:38 | delYsid | linuxstb_: In the FM tuner, its used to switch from scan mode to preset mode... pretty strange. |
15:42:59 | delYsid | If I want to record something, I have to enter a menu and select an entry there, which is pretty time-inefficient |
15:45:05 | linuxstb_ | delYsid: Does a long press on record do anything? |
15:45:08 | low_light | I thought long-press was record |
15:45:15 | low_light | ;) |
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16:02:37 | preglow | amiconn: hmm, would it be possible to make a log routine of the same complexity but allowing number of frac bits as a paramter? |
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16:11:16 | delYsid | linuxstb_ & low_light: Thanks for that hint, I'll try it. |
16:13:31 | * | Nico_P fixed a bad fd leakage in his code which made the code shaky on target... much better now :D |
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16:26:45 | low_light | Nico_P: fyi...there have been a couple of line selector bug/patches on flyspray recently |
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16:27:24 | Nico_P | low_light: yeah, I've seen them and even assigned them to myself, but haven't taken the time to investigate them |
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16:27:42 | Nico_P | I'm in playback.c mode :p |
16:28:15 | TMM | Nico_P, ghe talking about fd's, it turned out that psp (at least the OSS devkit) isn't able to have more than 8fds open at any time :) took a while to figure that one out, the 9th and subsequent fopen() calles would just silently fail |
16:29:16 | Nico_P | yeah it took me some time to figure out why my gigabeat was failing when the sim wasn't... the targets only have 11 fds |
16:31:22 | B4gder | we should probably add that same limit to the sims |
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16:31:58 | Nico_P | B4gder: indeed, it would help debugging a lot. logf is a PITA |
16:32:22 | B4gder | yeah, the sim should work like the target as far as possible |
16:35:11 | TMM | Nico_P, does the fopen() calls silently fail on that target as well? :) |
16:35:36 | Nico_P | TMM: not when you have logf enabled, and not when you're trying to open a codec |
16:36:07 | Nico_P | TMM: but even whith logf enabled, you need to check the log... other than that it's pretty much silent |
16:36:24 | B4gder | well, it returns -1 I believe |
16:36:42 | TMM | B4gder, psp just gave crap :P |
16:36:48 | Nico_P | it's -2 actually |
16:37:10 | Nico_P | TMM: ah, so rockbox is better. It just doesn't say much to the user |
16:37:24 | * | linuxstb_ wonders if Zagor will give us USB serial - to enable DEBUGF on target |
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16:37:35 | TMM | juicy |
16:37:46 | Nico_P | B4gder: adding the limit to the sim would require doing some checking in sim_open, right ? |
16:37:46 | TMM | linuxstb_, remote gdb :) |
16:37:47 | quaal | hello |
16:37:51 | quaal | i have an ipod video |
16:37:58 | quaal | and was wondering if rockbox is any good for it |
16:38:03 | quaal | i hate that i cant use my ipod when its charging |
16:38:06 | B4gder | Nico_P: yes I think that would make most sense |
16:38:17 | quaal | and cant put files in the "audiobooks" section unless they're .aac |
16:38:19 | TMM | Nico_P, fopen() wrapper that just cuts out after 11 fopen()'s :) that's what I used to simulate my port ;) |
16:38:35 | TMM | Nico_P, that was of gltron to PSP btw, not rockbox |
16:38:39 | linuxstb_ | quaal: What answer do you expect - we wrote it ;) |
16:38:49 | quaal | linuxstb, well.. does it cure these issues? |
16:38:52 | Nico_P | B4gder: but we can't watch the actual fd values, so we need to keep track of the number of open files manually ? |
16:39:02 | quaal | i went through the faq a bit |
16:39:04 | quaal | didnt see it |
16:39:07 | linuxstb_ | quaal: It has it's own issues, different from Apples... |
16:39:13 | Nico_P | I mean we can watch them but they don't give any useful info |
16:39:18 | B4gder | Nico_P: yes, but we could just keep a counter and check for the limit as is used on target |
16:39:38 | quaal | linuxstb, yes i saw song skipping and lower battery life |
16:39:39 | Nico_P | yeah, that's what I was thinking... shall I do it or have you started ? |
16:40:01 | TMM | Nico_P, hurray for arbitrary limits! :) |
16:40:06 | B4gder | please you do it, I'm not on my "home" computer atm |
16:40:09 | linuxstb_ | quaal: I'm not sure if song skipping is still an issue. Lower battery life is though. |
16:40:10 | Nico_P | ok |
16:40:28 | quaal | 1sec gotta go drop the kiddies off at the pool |
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16:48:57 | pixelma | Rost: still around? And what is your wiki name? |
16:49:44 | Nico_P | B4gder: is there no specific close() for the sim ? |
16:50:00 | B4gder | ah, no I guess we haven't needed one before |
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16:51:07 | Nico_P | so should I add one ? I suppose it's better than hacking the current... |
16:51:20 | B4gder | yes add one |
16:52:28 | amiconn | Nico_P: We could even translate the fd's |
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16:54:01 | Nico_P | hmm why not |
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16:54:28 | Aaron` | Any chance of supporting 2nd/ 3rd gen nanos? |
16:54:44 | B4gder | not very big chance. no |
16:55:05 | Aaron` | Why is there only support for the first gen nano? |
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16:55:21 | linuxstb_ | Because the 2nd/3rd gen are completely new hardware |
16:55:22 | B4gder | because after that apple went nuts on the firmware encryption front |
16:55:30 | linuxstb_ | And that. |
16:56:51 | TMM | Aaron`, Apple went out of their way to make it impossible to port rockbox to their new devices, you'll have to take it up with them. Let this be a lesson: do not buy devices with little apples printed on them :) |
16:57:47 | TMM | B4gder, I think the notice on the front page should be bigger ;) also: some apple scoulding :) |
16:58:29 | B4gder | we should have the entire web site on the front page! |
16:58:33 | TMM | 'We have found that an apple logo present on a music player is basically a 'fuck you' to the buyer' :) |
16:59:05 | TMM | B4gder, we need a ##rockbox, and just put a couple of bots in #rockbox ;) |
16:59:41 | TMM | couple of regexes and standard responses :) |
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17:00:46 | TMM | ([.*ipod.*]|[.*nano.*])\?$/i > Only first generation ipod nano's are supported because apple are asses |
17:00:53 | TMM | or something like that anyway :P |
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17:03:58 | Nico_P | amiconn: I think I'll stick to just counting for now... don't want to spend too much time on it |
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17:19:53 | newb | One of the recent changes in midiplay.c introduced "BUF_SIZE/numberOfSamples" in a for loop. Wouldn't it be better to calculate the upper limit once and use it in the loop? |
17:20:19 | newb | All the changes seem to have speedup as the goal... |
17:20:47 | TMM | wouldn't that be optimized out anyway? |
17:21:02 | TMM | or amI putting too much faith in GCC here? |
17:22:09 | TMM | but, a static calculation in a for loop is a bit weird :) |
17:24:15 | Nico_P | hmm red |
17:26:25 | GodEater_ | what did you break ? |
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17:27:34 | amiconn | Nico_P: You forgot to adapt plugin.h |
17:27:49 | Nico_P | I just noticed... commit arriving |
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17:28:15 | * | amiconn wonders whether Nico_P test-compiled at all... |
17:28:44 | Nico_P | amiconn: I did but stupidly only ran make bin |
17:28:52 | newb | TMM: I'm not sure. numberOfSamples is not a const (in its definition), so the compiler needs to be really smart to optimize it |
17:29:30 | TMM | newb, if it can't change while executing the loop... |
17:29:48 | TMM | newb, but then again, I'm no compiler expert |
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17:33:02 | newb | TMM: yes, it's possible to optimize it. But is it done? Have to look at the the asm output. |
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17:35:41 | newb | Hope n1s will check it |
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17:42:17 | TMM | hum, from a simple test it looks like GCC does NOT optimize the static calculation away |
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17:42:45 | linuxstb_ | Which -O option are you using? |
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17:44:08 | TMM | linuxstb_, tried -O2 |
17:44:20 | * | TMM tries with -O3 ;) |
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17:45:01 | TMM | linuxstb, that just unrolls the loop, but it appears to still do the calculation |
17:46:12 | linuxstb_ | The loop is something like for (i=0;i<BUF_SIZE/numOfSamples;i++) { } ? |
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17:47:48 | TMM | linuxstb_, actually, I'm full of crack, it does optimize the bogus calculation away, I wasn't looking properly |
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17:49:07 | TMM | http://pastebin.ca/730845 <−−- produces identical asm on -O3 |
17:50:30 | TMM | (on x86) |
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17:58:35 | TMM | or am I missing some very important point here, again? :) |
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18:08:41 | antgel | hi, are there limits to recording time of a file on an H340, apart from obviously free disk space? |
18:08:58 | bluebrother | no |
18:09:03 | antgel | that's rather cool |
18:09:10 | antgel | i'm going to see rush tonight ;) |
18:09:14 | bluebrother | well, file size is of course a limit |
18:09:25 | bluebrother | but you can split during recording, so it's not a real limit. |
18:09:56 | antgel | i have skimmed chapter 8 of the manual |
18:10:21 | antgel | is the AGC recommended for recording a loud rock gig? wouldn't i be better off just setting gain manually? |
18:12:31 | antgel | i'm going to try wavpack for the first time, if i record straight to mp3 it's annoying when i want to split the files into songs as i have to uncompress then recompress |
18:13:02 | antgel | ooh, or i could press Rec as mentioned in 5.8.1 of the manual |
18:13:06 | antgel | beautiful |
18:13:25 | nicktastic | You don't need to re-encode to split mp3s, use mp3splt with a cue file |
18:13:32 | nicktastic | mp3splt.sf.net |
18:13:44 | linuxstb_ | mp3directcut is another app to do that. |
18:14:06 | nicktastic | Does that require a cue? |
18:14:19 | antgel | well, i'm learning a lot :) |
18:14:23 | pixelma | I also think Rockbox splits automatically when you reached the max file size |
18:14:27 | linuxstb_ | No, but it can use one if you have one. |
18:14:43 | * | nicktastic makes a note of it |
18:15:00 | * | bluebrother still considers cue files useless and thinks using a format that supports gapless is better |
18:15:05 | linuxstb_ | But if the recording is important, and you have the disk space, recording to wav or wavpack gives you more flexibility over what you can do with the file without quality loss. |
18:15:10 | antgel | i'm so excited, i have to try and not fuck up like i did with porcupine tree a while ago. i didn't have time how to learn rockbox recording, and the iriver one cut off halfway through :( |
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18:21:40 | Rost | Anyone here who can give me write access to the wiki? |
18:22:47 | pixelma | I asked you about your wiki name earlier... :) |
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18:24:24 | antgel | is there any difference in battery life if i record to wav, wavpack or mp3? |
18:25:43 | tumu | bluebrother, they're useful for example with radio shows to create seeking positions to songs |
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18:30:59 | pixelma | Rost: if you want write permissions you need to give us your wiki name... |
18:31:16 | scorche|w | btw, "that orange guy" is the guy from MusicBrainz (/me is reading the logs) |
18:31:17 | Rost | I was enjoying my dinner back then i guess |
18:31:40 | Rost | my name: janwillemvanganswijk |
18:31:55 | Rost | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/JanWillemVanGanswijk |
18:33:11 | pixelma | you should be able to edit the wiki now |
18:33:24 | Rost | ok, ty! |
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18:47:02 | bluebrother | linuxstb: around? |
18:48:55 | bluebrother | linuxstb: I tried using getmntinfo for mountpoint resolving on OS X. As I can't test maybe you could? Diff is http://pastebin.ca/730889 |
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19:00:03 | crash91 | guys...mi4code0.9.3 is outdated....should i assume the linux binary is more up to date? |
19:02:35 | Domonoky | crash91: for what do you need mi4code ? |
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19:03:53 | crash91 | to decrypt the newer ssansa FW |
19:04:06 | crash91 | it isnt working anyway....cant find key |
19:04:17 | crash91 | 1.3.07P something like that |
19:05:06 | crash91 | another question....i heard you can use the e200R FWs on the normal e200s, how do you do this? |
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19:06:22 | Domonoky | why do you want to run e200R firmware on an e200 ? then you dont have rockbox anymore... |
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19:07:44 | crash91 | i thought this was possible through the Bl....like decrypting.. |
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19:08:05 | crash91 | i just want to check it out :) no intention of leaving Rockbox |
19:08:29 | Domonoky | e200R on e200 gives you nothing than problems.. |
19:08:53 | Domonoky | and for mi4code, just compile it your self, as described on the page |
19:09:03 | crash91 | ok....anyway....how do i get mi4code to decrypt the newer sanas FW...i cant compile as im not on linux |
19:09:20 | crash91 | and i havent the slightest idea on how to use cygwin...dont wanna install it |
19:10:19 | Domonoky | then you probably also dont want to use mi4code.. just use sansapatcher for rockbox tasks.. |
19:10:43 | crash91 | k nvm |
19:10:45 | Domonoky | or rbutil .. :-) |
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19:11:40 | * | bluebrother just posted a patch against rbutil to the tracker |
19:12:36 | * | crash91 doesnt know how to use rbutil, |
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19:12:56 | * | crash91 did it in the old days with manual BL install |
19:13:31 | Domonoky | so crash91 doesnt know how to click a few buttons ? |
19:13:42 | crash91 | nope :) |
19:13:46 | Domonoky | :-) |
19:14:01 | crash91 | never tried....dunno what those buttons on the mouse are tehre for |
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19:14:46 | Domonoky | and also sansapatcher on the console is very easy to use.. just try it.. instead of poking with old install methods.. |
19:15:20 | crash91 | any suggestions for anything you would like to see in a WPS? And i dont think im going to touch my install unless i NEED to |
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19:15:53 | crash91 | i need ideas for a "unconventional" but cool WPS |
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19:16:46 | crash91 | im thinking of a progressbar around the track info....like a square or something...or maybe put some AA inside it |
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19:20:53 | * | crash91 pressed ctrl+w by accident....o_O |
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19:32:23 | crash91 | any cool idea for a wps? |
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19:36:39 | Robin0800 | Ipod video keeps crashing? music still plays wps hangs bookmarking dosn't seem to work! |
19:37:45 | Robin0800 | there is a forum thread about a 5.5 ipod doing the same |
19:37:59 | crash91 | did you update? |
19:38:11 | Robin0800 | Yes |
19:38:40 | Robin0800 | Yesterdays build |
19:39:37 | GodEater | so no then |
19:39:49 | Robin0800 | Also all buttons are dead could it be in aloop or something? |
19:40:18 | * | GodEater counts five builds just from today |
19:40:47 | GodEater | reset your config |
19:40:50 | GodEater | and try again |
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19:41:39 | Robin0800 | GodEater,ok will try that |
19:41:53 | GodEater | and try the *latest* build |
19:41:57 | GodEater | not one from yesterday |
19:42:04 | quaal | is there an easy way to seperate audiobooks from all my other mp3's with rockbox on an ipod? |
19:42:44 | GodEater | put them in another folder ? |
19:43:07 | GodEater | that's what I do anyway |
19:44:35 | rasher | Nico_P: io.c:429: undefined reference to `_CLOSE' |
19:44:48 | rasher | Nico_P: Sim won't crosscompile |
19:44:58 | Nico_P | rasher: which ? |
19:45:06 | rasher | All of them |
19:45:07 | Nico_P | on windows ? |
19:45:25 | rasher | I'm building in linux, for windows |
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19:47:43 | Nico_P | rasher: is it solved if you add "#define CLOSE(a) (_wclose)(a)" after line 111 |
19:47:44 | Nico_P | ? |
19:48:41 | PaulJam | in the open with menu the text_editor uses the jpeg icon, wouldn't the txt icon fit better? (apps/plugins/viewers.config, line 4) |
19:48:49 | rasher | Nico_P: error: â_wcloseâ undeclared (first use in this function) |
19:49:32 | Nico_P | rasher: and "#define CLOSE(a) (close)(a)" ? |
19:50:00 | rasher | yep, that did it.. I'll commit |
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19:50:32 | Nico_P | ok |
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19:50:40 | dude | german here? |
19:51:01 | dude | hello? |
19:51:06 | rasher | dude: No, English. |
19:51:16 | dude | okay, i have a question |
19:51:23 | dude | can you help me pleasE? |
19:51:34 | Tanuva | I know german, do I need to translate for you? |
19:51:35 | rasher | We won't know until you ask it.. |
19:52:08 | Tanuva | (bah, could have chosen my words more wisely...) |
19:52:24 | dude | okay, ehm , i have a ipod nano ,and the battery is very fast empty :( is it fixed - now? |
19:52:36 | GodEater | no it's not fixed yet |
19:52:46 | dude | =( how long i must wait for it? |
19:53:03 | GodEater | possibly forever |
19:53:09 | dude | its terrible ^^ only 3 hours or less :/ |
19:53:10 | GodEater | in that, we don't know HOW to fix it |
19:53:12 | dude | what? why? |
19:53:49 | Tanuva | they dont know the cause for that energy consumption yet |
19:54:07 | dude | do you know "Der Papst"? |
19:54:35 | GodEater | do you mean DerPapst |
19:54:42 | Tanuva | the expression for that person? or some film/book named equally? |
19:54:43 | dude | what ever , yes |
19:54:53 | GodEater | from the ipodlinux project ? |
19:54:54 | Tanuva | okay, Im gonna shut up. |
19:54:56 | dude | joa |
19:54:58 | dude | yes |
19:55:03 | GodEater | yes we know him |
19:55:13 | dude | i have chat with him |
19:55:26 | dude | and he means , for another ipod was a fix released |
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19:55:37 | rasher | Nico_P: actually no, still not fixed.. http://pastebin.ca/730969 |
19:55:49 | GodEater | yes, power consumption was fixed on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gen ipods |
19:56:02 | dude | yes , and this man who fixed that |
19:56:10 | GodEater | that would be amiconn |
19:56:30 | dude | works with this other chip, when he have time.. |
19:57:05 | dude | its difficult, isn´t it? |
19:57:11 | GodEater | it's undocumented |
19:57:14 | Nico_P | rasher: looking |
19:58:29 | dude | :( hm okay, how i can notify when its fixed whith the power consumption? |
19:58:36 | Nico_P | rasher: doom has a rockmacros.h too |
19:59:01 | rasher | Nico_P: what does this mean? |
19:59:11 | GodEater | dude, by keeping an eye on the www.rockbox.org front page, and probably MajorChanges in the wiki |
19:59:11 | rasher | I need the same fix there? |
19:59:41 | Nico_P | rasher: it seems to be a bit more complicated |
19:59:46 | dude | hmm okay thx :( |
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20:00:33 | dude | where i can get rockbox versions with patches integrated |
20:00:48 | dude | i cant compile that self |
20:00:55 | rasher | Nico_P: ah.. I'm afraid I'm no help, but I'll be happy to test fixes |
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20:01:55 | GodEater | dude, from the unsupported builds section of the rockbox forums |
20:02:07 | GodEater | dude: have you ever used google before ? |
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20:02:21 | preglow | hrm, making a logarithmic freq axis with the 16.16 log/exp wasn't as succesful |
20:02:26 | dude | ^^ *jokely* |
20:02:30 | dude | sry |
20:02:34 | dude | but thx :) |
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20:03:10 | dude | okay, then thx good bye have nice evening |
20:03:40 | dude | cya |
20:03:48 | dude | thx for the help ;) |
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20:04:03 | * | preglow misses his floating point :/ |
20:04:16 | Llorean | Doesn't the S do floating point? |
20:04:21 | preglow | yeah |
20:04:26 | Llorean | So, get to it. ;) |
20:04:29 | preglow | but i'm not exactly coding exclusively for the gigabeat s |
20:04:39 | Llorean | This is the EQ plotter? |
20:04:43 | preglow | yea |
20:05:06 | Llorean | Is your goal to show the curve realtime as it's adjusted, or something like that? |
20:05:23 | preglow | in a way, the plan is to bind a button to flash the eq plot |
20:05:29 | Llorean | Ah |
20:05:41 | preglow | calculating it will be pretty expensive, so don't want to do it every time something gets tweaked |
20:06:02 | Llorean | Gotcha. |
20:06:22 | preglow | but it depends heavily on sin/cos/exp/log |
20:06:31 | preglow | and the latter ones i don't have with the amount of precision i'd like |
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20:07:04 | Llorean | Do you need a lot of precision for how low resolution the screens are, or is it more a case of "If you're gonna do a job, do it right because we might want it better in the future"? |
20:08:01 | delYsid | Can someone please set a dependency from FS #7912 to FS #7704? My non-javascript browser doesn't allow me to do this with Flyspray. |
20:08:09 | preglow | well, i've got enough precision for display purposes, it seems |
20:08:31 | preglow | i'm just having trouble with generating a smooth exp() curve for the logarithmic frequency axis |
20:08:35 | preglow | so right now, the curve looks jagged |
20:08:39 | Llorean | delYsid: Dones |
20:09:49 | delYsid | Llorean: Thanks. |
20:10:00 | delYsid | Can I retitle a task in Flyspray? |
20:10:47 | Llorean | delYsid: A task can be retitled. I'm not sure whether that's a privilege limited to certain people, or if you can retitle your own tasks. |
20:11:32 | jhMikeS | preglow: don't feel so bad. incorporating two different mutual exclusion types into the kernel ain't no treat either. :p |
20:13:02 | delYsid | Llorean: I dont see a way to retitle 7704. Could you just exclude the part starting from the + ? |
20:13:41 | preglow | ahahha |
20:15:07 | Llorean | delYsid: Done |
20:16:17 | delYsid | Llorean: Thanks again. |
20:16:30 | Llorean | Never a problem when I've time. |
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20:24:35 | crash91 | guys, if iPodlinux gets USB support, will rockbox get it too?? |
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20:25:51 | Llorean | crash91: If someone does the work to adapt the code, but it's somewhat more likely to happen in the other direction right now, I think we're further along that track |
20:26:18 | crash91 | Llorean: k, thanks |
20:26:58 | crash91 | this might interest some people here: http://ftp.build.bg/Books_and_Help/Books/_programming/ |
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20:30:11 | crash91 | can anyone tell me about a nice C IDE for windows? |
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20:30:35 | TMM | crash91: code::blocks is fairly good |
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20:31:15 | crash91 | thanks, ill check it out |
20:31:33 | TMM | crash91: then again, vim is the best for every platform ;) |
20:32:08 | crash91 | =), it says its an IDE for c++ |
20:32:27 | * | crash91 doesnt really know the difference between C and C++ |
20:32:43 | Nico_P | rasher: here ? could you try http://pastebin.ca/731017 ? |
20:32:49 | TMM | well, I THOUGHT it could do other languages as well :) |
20:33:00 | crash91 | ;) |
20:33:23 | crash91 | what about notepad++, it has syntax highlighting |
20:33:49 | TMM | crash91: I'm not much of a windows user, I can't comment. I just kind of liked code::blocks on linux :) |
20:34:33 | crash91 | TMM: Well, i use my laptop now.....my dad uses the desktop with fedora =( |
20:34:49 | crash91 | TMM: found one, crossplatform too! http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ |
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20:34:55 | TMM | crash91: it sounds like you need to fix your laptop :) |
20:35:39 | rasher | Nico_P: building.. |
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20:36:16 | crash91 | TMM: what can i say...windows XP, even windows Vista ultimate cant compete with Beryl.... |
20:36:29 | TMM | crash91: install linux on the laptop then :) |
20:36:47 | TMM | crash91: or just install an X server on your windows box, ssh into the linux box, and start another desktop for yourself :) |
20:36:58 | Nico_P | crash91: eclpise is far from being lightweight |
20:37:24 | crash91 | Nico_P:Who said i wanted it to be lightweight =P |
20:37:44 | Nico_P | crash91: and it's mainly for java... there is devC++ which I think is quite ok |
20:37:46 | rasher | Nico_P: that seems to work |
20:37:50 | crash91 | TMM: DSL? |
20:37:57 | Nico_P | rasher: cool, I'll commit then |
20:38:03 | TMM | I have yet to find a IDE that doesn't bother me, I haven't found a single IDE that's better than vim |
20:38:20 | TMM | crash91: I assume the desktop is on the same network as your laptop? :) |
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20:38:30 | crash91 | TMM: Yes |
20:38:31 | Nico_P | TMM: I quite like kscope on KDE... it's kate with cscope. can vim use cscope ? |
20:38:45 | TMM | Nico_P: I don't know cscope... |
20:39:25 | Nico_P | TMM: it analyses your C files and builds a database, allowing things like "find definition" or call graphs |
20:39:42 | TMM | crash91: well then, install putty and xming on windows, start xming with a root window, start putty, configure X forwarding and compression, log into the linux box and type 'gnome-session' or 'startkde' if that's your thing. presto: linux desktop :) |
20:39:57 | Nico_P | TMM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cscope |
20:39:59 | TMM | Nico_P: I used ctags :) |
20:40:08 | Nico_P | it's similar |
20:40:13 | crash91 | uhm whats the difference between C# and C? |
20:41:28 | TMM | crash91: the syntax is vaguely similar, but there's very little that's the same really |
20:41:33 | Nico_P | TMM: http://cscope.sourceforge.net/cscope_vim_tutorial.html |
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20:42:48 | Nico_P | crash91: C# is a language for microsoft's .NET framework, which is a bit of a competitor to java |
20:44:13 | * | TMM thinks C# was a bad choice in names |
20:44:51 | Nico_P | TMM: why ? I find it quite good... |
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20:45:12 | TMM | C# isn't exactly an incremental change, nor a superset of C |
20:45:20 | TMM | it's a bit misleading |
20:45:37 | TMM | at least MOST C is valid C++, I don't think any C code is valid C# |
20:45:54 | Llorean | I wouldn't go that far. |
20:46:42 | TMM | how far? |
20:46:49 | Llorean | That there's no C code that's valid C# |
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20:47:03 | TMM | not a whole lot |
20:47:28 | rasher | TMM: afaik, all C is valid c++ |
20:47:58 | TMM | rasher: well, no... C++ has additional keywords. |
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20:48:26 | Davide-NYC | question for the devs: would an implementation of dsp_centercut be at all possible given the CPU constraints of the rockbox targets? |
20:48:28 | rasher | But c++ is still a strict superset of C |
20:48:57 | TMM | well... not entirely, I don't believe C99 has some stuff not in C++, but don't quote me on that |
20:48:57 | amiconn | rasher: But that means that not all valid C code is valid C++ code |
20:49:01 | Nico_P | Llorean: AFAIK, C# doesn't have pointers, does it ? |
20:49:27 | Llorean | Nico_P: I believe it has them but doesn't like you to use them. |
20:50:01 | TMM | pointers? pointers to what? the same way that java has pointer? :) |
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20:51:16 | Llorean | TMM: Pointers as in "variables that hold the addresses of other variables" |
20:52:07 | TMM | Llorean: not strictly the same as in C then, is it? :) |
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20:52:29 | Llorean | TMM: How would you define a C pointer, exactly, perhaps my phrasing isn't adequate? |
20:52:50 | TMM | Llorean: a variable that holds the address to some bit of memory :) |
20:52:54 | Davide-NYC | Please pardon the off topic question, but I am almost ready to submit a feature request to flyspray but do not want to litter the tracker if it is an impossible request. |
20:53:00 | Llorean | TMM: C# pointers can be used this way |
20:53:08 | TMM | Llorean: the variable part is entirely optional :P |
20:53:20 | Llorean | AFAIK, they're identical in function to C/C++ pointers, which is why books on C# like to talk a lot about unsafe code before describing them to you |
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20:53:41 | rasher | Nico_P: compiling properly for me now |
20:54:03 | Nico_P | Llorean: actually I just saw you can only use pointers in code blocks declared as "unsafe" |
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20:54:11 | Nico_P | rasher: at last ! :) |
20:54:14 | TMM | Llorean: can you even DO stupid shit in C# with the pointers? I thought they were protected |
20:54:15 | Domonoky | can you do pointer arithmetic with c# ? ie. *(ptr+5)=0; ? |
20:54:16 | Llorean | Nico_P: Yes, or give the compiler the option /unsafe |
20:54:21 | Llorean | TMM: They are not |
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20:54:44 | Llorean | TMM: One of the bigger differences between C# and JAVA is that C# was designed for crazy C programmers who want to do unsafe things. ;) |
20:55:00 | TMM | Llorean: O, really? |
20:55:00 | Llorean | Domonoky: Yes |
20:55:04 | Llorean | TMM: Yes. |
20:55:17 | TMM | hum... ok, one wonders then, what's the point? :) |
20:55:27 | Llorean | That one I can't answer. :) |
20:55:30 | Domonoky | so c# pointers are real pointers.. able to shoot you in the foot :-) |
20:55:41 | Llorean | I think they might be *more* able to shoot you in the foot |
20:55:47 | Llorean | Since you can point to a variable that's later garbage collected |
20:56:07 | Domonoky | nice.. :-) unpredictable foot shooting.. :-) |
20:56:25 | TMM | yay! undebugable foot shooting! :) |
20:56:36 | stevenm | hey n1s, you around? |
20:56:43 | n1s | yup |
20:56:47 | Llorean | Davide-NYC: What's your possibly impossible feature request? |
20:57:11 | stevenm | n1s, midi speedup on ipod idea: can it be run at 22050 and then upsampled to 44100 ? |
20:57:15 | Davide-NYC | Moitah's dsp_centercut Winamp Plugin |
20:57:25 | Davide-NYC | http://moitah.net/ |
20:57:40 | Davide-NYC | I love this DSP filter. I use it all the time. |
20:57:50 | stevenm | n1s, either send each sample twice in a row (bad) or linear interpolation.. the same kind as is in synth.c |
20:57:55 | Davide-NYC | On my PC that is... |
20:58:23 | Davide-NYC | I worry that it's too CPU intensive for a DAP but I have no real way of knowing offhand. |
20:58:31 | stevenm | n1s, what do you think ? |
20:58:36 | n1s | stevenm: I don't know if plugins can access the dsp resampler that the codecs use, I think that would be the nicest |
20:58:54 | Llorean | Davide-NYC: I believe "Karaoke Mode" is already a start of this sort of thing? |
20:59:02 | n1s | but I guess some simple thing can be implemented in the plugin |
20:59:23 | * | Davide-NYC downloads the manual |
20:59:39 | stevenm | at the very least, no interpolation, in the plugin.. would still probably sound better than with all the buffer misses |
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21:01:06 | Davide-NYC | Llorean: yes! so what I'm asking for is just an expansion of what currently exists. So it should be possible. |
21:02:14 | amiconn | Davide-NYC: Karaoke mode is cheap, same as the "Classic Vocal Remover" in the plugin you mentioned |
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21:02:41 | Davide-NYC | Ah, so the output is mono. |
21:02:47 | amiconn | The other modes need fft, so I think that's out of reach for our targets, *perhaps* except gigabeat |
21:03:04 | Davide-NYC | I own a gigabeat. (drools) |
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21:03:14 | amiconn | No, it's not mono |
21:03:26 | stevenm | n1s, someone with portalplayer would have to do testing. I've only got H300 |
21:03:38 | amiconn | Karaoke mode outputs (L-R)/2 in the left channel and (R-L)/2 in the right |
21:03:55 | n1s | stevenm: I have only a h300 too |
21:03:59 | Crash91 | i have a sansa....i might help if it isnt risky |
21:04:03 | amiconn | So it's basically stereo with a virtual stereo width of "oo" (infinity) |
21:04:08 | stevenm | n1s, I'm going to very quietly whisper "what about the second core?" |
21:04:12 | * | stevenm runs away |
21:04:51 | n1s | stevenm: that's sort of the same problem, one would need a target to test on |
21:04:56 | Davide-NYC | If this is a valid feature request should I call it an 'expansion' of karaoke mode or a porting of dsp_centercut? |
21:05:31 | Davide-NYC | restated: is this a totally different thing? |
21:05:48 | * | Davide-NYC knows nothing of the underlying code |
21:06:09 | amiconn | stevenm: How would you split a single mixing task between 2 cores? |
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21:07:13 | stevenm | amiconn, in theory, it is easy. midi is synthesized by running the synth code on N independent voices |
21:07:48 | amiconn | Yeah, and? |
21:07:51 | stevenm | amiconn, so, one core does the sequencing (turning voices on and off and setting the parameters) and then the two cores both produce the next sample for each voice |
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21:08:08 | amiconn | ? |
21:08:12 | stevenm | amiconn, ie, core 0 takes all the even voices and core 1 takes all the odd voices |
21:08:24 | amiconn | You have to mix them together.... |
21:08:25 | Davide-NYC | Introducing FS #7918 ... Tracker has been littered. |
21:08:42 | stevenm | amiconn, well, at the moment they are just added together |
21:08:58 | preglow | what's the problem with mixing? buffer needs to be in iram, but that's that |
21:09:01 | amiconn | Yes, and how do you add data produced on one core to data produced by the other? |
21:09:18 | amiconn | Without continuous cache flushing, that is |
21:09:31 | preglow | iram |
21:09:41 | amiconn | ...which would hamper performance more than what you would gain from using 2 cores |
21:09:47 | stevenm | amiconn, well, I suppose this would be some what suboptimal, but after the main code finishes its batch, it waits for the other core, and adds in its data |
21:09:49 | amiconn | preglow: Is that large enough? |
21:09:59 | preglow | eh? just size it to be big enough |
21:10:05 | preglow | we keep buffers in iram all the time for codecs |
21:10:13 | Davide-NYC | Long live Rockbox. 'see all a yous lata. |
21:10:17 | amiconn | I dunno, does the midi code synthesize left & right channels separately? |
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21:10:25 | stevenm | amiconn, I guess each core can sum its own voices, and output a single int per sample. the two ints get added together and send to the DSP |
21:10:26 | amiconn | That would be a more obvious split, I'd think |
21:11:08 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I didn't experience any such thing doing the SPC codec as dual and it runs core DSP and synth in parallel. One other thing is if we're careful about alignment, we do have an uncached shadow of RAM as well now. |
21:11:09 | stevenm | amiconn, no, it synthesizes the instrument and then applies panning. it is a lot faster to produce the sample first and then pan it left/right than to go through the math twice |
21:11:11 | preglow | what the hell is wrong with just having each code do one voice at a time and summing everything to an iram buffer? |
21:11:31 | preglow | s/code/core |
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21:13:05 | jhMikeS | you could assign voices to cores on the fly of course as well if one's overloaded. seems interesting to try at some point. |
21:13:18 | preglow | that's the best way of going about it... |
21:13:20 | preglow | not complex either |
21:14:10 | amiconn | preglow: This will of course work - if there's enough iram for those buffers |
21:14:21 | stevenm | the only trick is, after each core does the work for one voice, it has to be added to some memory location, and when all voices are done, it is sent to the dsp as a sample |
21:14:23 | * | amiconn doesn't know whether midiplay uses iram buffers atm |
21:14:23 | preglow | amiconn: what is the problem? you can decide how big the buffer is going to beyourself |
21:14:28 | jhMikeS | we do have 1K of IRAM back |
21:14:31 | stevenm | I guess you'd need some sort of locking |
21:15:17 | * | jhMikeS is currently serving up the kernel but some little hacky things are possible in the meantime like in mpegplayer |
21:15:22 | stevenm | preglow, I guess you'd need 4 bytes? |
21:15:22 | amiconn | stevenm: Either that, or let one core work one block ahead of the other |
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21:15:49 | preglow | how does the midi plugin render voices currently? all voices in parallel or a full pass over the output buffer per voice? |
21:15:55 | amiconn | (needs one extra buffer, but no "live" locking) |
21:15:57 | stevenm | amiconn, that works too, but I think more complicated |
21:16:28 | stevenm | preglow, for every output sample, it finds one sample from each voice, sums them all together, and outputs the result |
21:16:36 | preglow | that sounds incredibly slow |
21:16:37 | * | jhMikeS suggests looking at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7540 |
21:17:23 | n1s | amiconn: the output buffer in midiplayer is currently not in iram because pcm_play_data accesses it with dma which hangs if the buffer is in iram |
21:17:25 | preglow | jhMikeS: seems bushel has packed i2s working on video too, i'll commit it |
21:17:27 | stevenm | preglow, well, how else would you do it? generate M samples from N voices into N buffers, then add? |
21:17:45 | preglow | stevenm: normally i'd render each completely while summing to a buffer |
21:17:46 | amiconn | n1s: Ah yes. That's only true for coldfire though |
21:18:02 | preglow | stevenm: that way you don't constantly have to fetch the voice data from memory, you can keep it in registers while you render each voice |
21:18:10 | jhMikeS | preglow: yeah, lets get this move over with and delete all the shifty stuff |
21:18:26 | stevenm | preglow, but you don't know how long each voice will be on |
21:18:29 | amiconn | preglow: But then you have to access the output buffer continuously... |
21:18:46 | preglow | amiconn: so what? that's fast, it's iram |
21:18:49 | stevenm | preglow, and you can only do that for a length of time not greater than one midi tick, because the next event could alter the voice parameters |
21:18:56 | amiconn | preglow: Atm it's not - see above |
21:19:07 | preglow | amiconn: that's still one memory access per sample, fetching all the voice state is what, lots more? |
21:19:36 | stevenm | preglow, I believe voice state is in iram |
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21:20:20 | preglow | it's still more accesses per voice sample than the buffer access |
21:20:31 | stevenm | preglow, only patch waveform data is in ram.. I wanna say both voice metadata (delta, etc) and all the patch metadata (loop points) are in iram too |
21:21:30 | preglow | this is exactly what the eq does, loads all the eq state for one band, applies it to the buffer as a whole, then does the next band. please check out the code to see how few accesses that makes per sample |
21:21:50 | preglow | and the eq has considerable state |
21:22:06 | stevenm | i guess you could write a loop into the voice synth function to produce multiple samples at a time |
21:22:29 | stevenm | and add them all into some buffer... then go to the beginning of the buffer and add in the samples from next voice, etc |
21:23:02 | stevenm | it'd be lovely if this could be dual-cored though |
21:23:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What would be necessary to port a PP target to packed samples? |
21:23:27 | * | amiconn could port the mini g2 |
21:23:38 | stevenm | or at least upsampled from 22050 for portalplayer.. instant 2x speedup theoretically if upsampling if simple |
21:24:21 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I think just use one of the LE16 formats preferably the 2nd. Make sure the correct format is selected in pcm-pp.c |
21:24:47 | amiconn | No changes in the WM setup? |
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21:25:20 | preglow | stevenm: that would also make dual coring it tons easier |
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21:25:40 | stevenm | preglow, producing multiple samples for each voice at a time? |
21:25:43 | preglow | stevenm: the mixing to the main buffer can be done in whatever order you want too, so as long as you keep it in iram, it doesn't matter what order it's done in |
21:25:50 | jhMikeS | if it's IIS, IWL=16, and master, I think probably not. |
21:25:55 | preglow | stevenm: one voice doesn't even have to be done while another is mixing |
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21:28:32 | * | stevenm will be back in a few |
21:29:33 | preglow | linuxstb_: would be cool if you could check out packed i2s on your ipods too |
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21:32:51 | preglow | amiconn: any loud protests over me commiting stereo width with 5% step and 250% max? |
21:32:52 | amiconn | Nano, Video are done. So out of the PP502x ipod, the G4, color, mini g1 and mini g2 are still missing. I'll test mini g2 shortly |
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21:33:09 | Nico_P | preglow: what's packed i2s ? |
21:33:24 | quaal | does rockbox allow you to seperate mp3 audiobooks |
21:33:28 | quaal | like the regular ipod cannot |
21:34:11 | preglow | Nico_P: transfering two 16 bit samples in one operation instead of two as before |
21:34:23 | preglow | Nico_P: this also keeps the i2s fifo filles for longer times, making for less fiq overhead |
21:34:27 | preglow | filled |
21:34:46 | linuxstb_ | preglow: Sure, I'll try and do it later tonight. |
21:35:16 | linuxstb_ | If it works on my color, I'll just enable it for the 4G and we can see if anyone complains. I doubt there will be an issue though. |
21:35:30 | Nico_P | preglow: thanks for the explanation, although it's a bit too low-level for me :) |
21:36:11 | preglow | Nico_P: quite simple, there's a small queue for feeding samples to the audio interface, we previously used 32 bits per sample for that, now we stuff two samples in that same space, which means we have to feed it less often |
21:36:24 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Doing it for PP5002 requires RE'ing the I2S controller... |
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21:36:56 | jhMikeS | amiconn: yeah, poking that will be soon hopefully. |
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21:37:30 | Nico_P | preglow: nice |
21:37:34 | chrisjs169 | I made a mistake, and accidentally removed part of apps/plugins/bitmaps/.svn. I tried doing svn co on just the bitmaps directory, but it complains about how part of .svn is missing - any way to fix it? |
21:37:56 | Nico_P | preglow: is the change noticeable ? |
21:38:19 | preglow | Nico_P: not very, but should be measurable |
21:38:22 | linuxstb_ | chrisjs169:: Try deleting the whole bitmaps folder and do svn update |
21:38:37 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb_, ok, thanks |
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21:39:51 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb_, that worked. thanks |
21:39:54 | bertrik | wtf, z80 plugin? |
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21:40:20 | jhMikeS | preglow: it also prevents any tendency to channel swap when unpausing. |
21:40:32 | preglow | there is any such tendency? :> |
21:40:49 | jhMikeS | on H10 there was |
21:40:53 | preglow | snappy |
21:40:59 | * | amiconn rarely pauses |
21:41:10 | amiconn | Otherwise I would probably have noticed it |
21:41:30 | preglow | amiconn: any loud protests over me commiting stereo width with 5% step and 250% max? |
21:41:41 | stevenm | for some reason, pausing on H300 issue.. does not resume until you hit stop sometimes. |
21:41:46 | stevenm | a known issue perhaps |
21:42:09 | amiconn | preglow: Still didn't try it... |
21:42:33 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Seems to work nicely on Mini g2... just the same changes as for the Video |
21:42:48 | jhMikeS | the 2nd format? |
21:42:49 | preglow | amiconn: feels ok to me, but i agree the 5% step size for balance is a bit too much |
21:43:14 | preglow | amiconn: you could try the ordinary LE16 format too, it works just the same on nano |
21:43:21 | jhMikeS | I'm just trying to have all of them use the same one. e200/c200 should work fine with it as well. |
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21:43:37 | amiconn | What second format?? |
21:43:50 | preglow | the one not ending in _2, can't remember the full name now |
21:44:23 | * | amiconn is somewhat confused about the various formats |
21:44:42 | amiconn | I just extended what was committed for the Video, as already mentioned |
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21:46:56 | preglow | i don't even know what the difference between them is, just tried both |
21:47:50 | jhMikeS | amiconn: there's LE16 and LE16_2. LE16_2 is the only one that works on H10 but anything higher than PP5020 seems to also work fine with it. |
21:48:05 | amiconn | I used the _2 ... |
21:48:15 | amiconn | Why do the sansas use the other one then? |
21:48:41 | jhMikeS | I left it there when I switched sansa but haven't used the other yet. I guess I'll change it over. |
21:49:13 | amiconn | ah ok |
21:49:38 | amiconn | So the HAVE_AS3514 will become a separate #ifdef block? |
21:50:47 | jhMikeS | just the master mode setup |
21:51:12 | amiconn | yes, that's what I mean |
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21:53:29 | * | jhMikeS is verifying _2 on e200 just to be sure...it's been awhile |
21:54:09 | * | amiconn would be surprised if it doesn't work |
21:54:43 | amiconn | Anyone with a mini g1 around? |
21:55:36 | jhMikeS | DSP mode was unstable with recording on H10. RX would sometimes not start and would cut out randomly. |
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21:57:00 | jhMikeS | _2 seems to be fine here |
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21:58:29 | jhMikeS | no wrapping or other weirdness |
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22:14:15 | Soap | preglow, do you mind explaining (in plainer english) your most recent commit of #7917? |
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22:15:28 | Soap | I see it is just adding packed L-R-16 for DMA/I2S to the iPod video - but I'm curious what packed L-R-16 for DMA/I2S is. |
22:15:45 | preglow | Soap: there's no dma involved, bushel has that part wrong |
22:16:07 | n1s | Soap: see logs 21:36 |
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22:16:58 | Soap | thank you |
22:18:54 | amiconn | 3 to go... |
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22:21:28 | * | jhMikeS wonders if swp is a bust on pp5002 |
22:25:18 | amiconn | hmpf! |
22:29:29 | jhMikeS | probably sw lock for that too :\ |
22:30:21 | preglow | you've got a pp5002 target? |
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22:34:28 | jhMikeS | preglow: yeah. I just haven't gotten to getting the FW card yet but will. I don't want that in the mix yet to worry about. |
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22:35:52 | roolku | okay, countdown to the committing of FS #7487 |
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22:42:23 | linuxstb | roolku: Why not call button_available() button_queue_count(), as that's what it does? |
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22:43:14 | roolku | whoops, just hit enter... I suppose I could do that ... lets see if there other issues |
22:45:02 | Bagder | there's some source re-indenting required too... |
22:45:32 | Bagder | configfile_update_entry() is made with two spaces instead of 4 |
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22:45:48 | roolku | badger: thanks |
22:47:52 | linuxstb | roolku: Why has the "return PLUGIN_ERROR;" been removed from inside the if(parameter == NULL) at the start of plugin_main() ? |
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22:52:42 | Bagder | a few warnings |
22:53:08 | roolku | I am checking them out... |
22:53:27 | Bagder | seems to be on 64bit archs building sims |
22:54:06 | roolku | linuxstb: not sure - will try to find out |
22:54:14 | linuxstb | roolku: Also, #include <splash.h> isn't needed in mpegplayer.c |
22:54:20 | linuxstb | I mean "splash.h" |
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22:55:39 | roolku | linuxstb: true |
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22:57:37 | amiconn | Not only not needed, but in fact not allowed |
22:57:41 | * | linuxstb commits packed I2S for the Color and 4G |
22:57:58 | amiconn | Plugins must not include anything from the core except plugin.h |
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22:58:10 | n1s | roolku: those int casts on line 652-654 in mpegplayer.c should be changed to (intptr_t) or perhaps the whole DEBUGF statement should be commented out |
22:58:20 | roolku | hm, what is the correct (i.e. 64bit safe) way to print pointers |
22:58:50 | roolku | n1s: yes commenting out would be the easiest |
22:58:51 | preglow | amiconn: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/reduced_stereo_width_range.patch |
22:59:16 | preglow | linuxstb: quite excellent |
22:59:19 | preglow | only a few left to go now |
22:59:30 | preglow | roolku: %p ? |
22:59:57 | Isolinear | "Packed"? What exactly does that mean? |
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23:00:07 | linuxstb | preglow: Isn't it just the 1st Gen mini? |
23:00:22 | n1s | Isolinear: pack two words into a longword |
23:00:27 | amiconn | roolku: There are seveal placed printing pointers. %p won't work on target (not a problem *atm* as mpgeplayer isn't compiled for the only targets which can have debug builds, but might become one) |
23:00:28 | n1s | in this case |
23:02:08 | preglow | linuxstb: who has one of those? :> |
23:02:16 | linuxstb | Doesn't bluebrother? |
23:02:26 | preglow | bluebrother: boing |
23:02:45 | * | linuxstb spots an empty line in docs/MAINTAINERS (also for Nano...) |
23:03:16 | roolku | I just looked up sprintf and it only supports These support %c %s %d and %x |
23:03:21 | preglow | linuxstb: i don't use my nano on a daily basis |
23:03:28 | * | linuxstb should change that line |
23:03:40 | linuxstb | s/daily basis/once in a blue moon/ |
23:03:47 | preglow | anyway, i seem to be doing the nano related stuff in here |
23:03:48 | roolku | so would casting to intptr_t work, or shall I comment the DEBUGF out? |
23:03:49 | preglow | so i'll sign myself up |
23:03:55 | amiconn | kkurbjun also has a mini g1 iirc |
23:04:23 | jhMikeS | how many 502x's are left for packed now? |
23:04:41 | n1s | roolku: casting to intptr_t will correct the warning but you will get another one for using the wrong format in DEBUGF probably |
23:04:45 | amiconn | Just the mini g1... |
23:05:22 | jhMikeS | who's got that one? |
23:05:24 | preglow | amiconn: unless you have any issues with it, i'll be commiting that patch, btw. i can't imagine why anyone would need more than 5% increments |
23:06:26 | n1s | preglow: I don't think your idea of synthing one voice to the buffer at a time instead of combinig samples first in midiplayer is going to work without quite a bit of redesign... |
23:06:47 | n1s | or maybe I'm missing something |
23:07:23 | Soap | Did the copyright issues around "fixing" broken WPSs in the wiki ever get resolved? In other words, can I fix someone else's WPS screen and reupload it? |
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23:08:12 | preglow | n1s: didn't say that, just saying it probably will end up faster |
23:08:35 | scorche|w | Soap: not without their consent (unless they are marked CC-SA |
23:08:57 | n1s | preglow: ah, I somehow thought you meant it would be simple, probably wishful thinking ;-) |
23:09:23 | preglow | n1s: well, i would be surprised if it turned out to be _hard_ |
23:09:28 | preglow | everything is the same, just done in a different order |
23:09:50 | Llorean | Soap: They're being "fixed" when the new site goes live, as it'll require CC-SA licensing. |
23:10:44 | n1s | preglow: well, I might look into it one day |
23:11:00 | scorche|w | Llorean: the ones that arent currently CC-SA'ed cant be without permission thtough |
23:11:35 | bluebrother | preglow: *plink* |
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23:12:09 | Llorean | scorche|w: Yep, but they shouldn't be grandfathered into the new site anyway |
23:12:21 | scorche|w | as a side note, unless anyone has issues with the current version, i will try to get it out tonight after i add the 1st and 2nd gen ipods (unless this will raise a big argument, or people have further unaddressed concerns) |
23:12:34 | scorche|w | as a side note, unless anyone has issues with the current version, i will try to get it out tonight after i add the 1st and 2nd gen ipods (unless this will raise a big argument, or people have further unaddressed concerns) |
23:12:42 | preglow | bluebrother: yo, could you test out packed i2s on mini1g? |
23:12:42 | scorche|w | Llorean: nothing will be |
23:12:55 | bluebrother | preglow: sorry, my mini is 2G. |
23:12:56 | preglow | bluebrother: well, if you _have_ a mini1g, that is :) |
23:13:00 | preglow | ah, k |
23:13:23 | bluebrother | I was just about reading what happend recently ;-) |
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23:15:53 | preglow | has any ipod targets required anything fancy yet? couldn't we just add mini1g as well and see if anyone complains? |
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23:17:01 | scorche|w | does this silence mean to go ahead? ;) |
23:17:19 | Soap | link again please, scorche|w ? |
23:17:48 | scorche|w | copy.rockbox-themes.org |
23:18:19 | scorche|w | (yes i know about the spare line below the chart...this will be fixed when i insert teh 1st and 2nd gen iPods) |
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23:21:17 | amiconn | Bagder, Zagor: Hanging build... |
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23:21:43 | Bagder | yes... |
23:25:39 | * | preglow goes ahead and commits reduced stereo width range patch |
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23:28:58 | jac0b | roolku: when I try to use your patch for mpegplayer this http://pastebin.com/d4c406b46 |
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23:29:26 | jac0b | should I just apply it anyway |
23:29:57 | pixelma | he just committed it, no need to patch it... |
23:30:19 | jac0b | the mpegplayer patch was commited |
23:32:52 | jac0b | pixelma: this patch http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7487 was commited to svn |
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23:33:35 | pixelma | yes, I thought you were speaking about that one |
23:34:20 | jac0b | thanks yea I just saw it on the homepage |
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