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| 00:00:15 | alienbiker99 | do you guys have a list of links that you have at the ready? haha |
| 00:00:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: Okay, but it works? |
| 00:00:21 | karl | could i re have thiose link |
| 00:00:29 | zajacattack | hey, does anyone know what happened to mpegplayer? |
| 00:00:31 | linuxstb | amiconn: I only tested briefly, but yes. Should I test more? |
| 00:00:32 | karl | pop up blocker, |
| 00:00:37 | karl | it's kayasha here |
| 00:00:37 | amiconn | The speedup might be tiny because the single-transfer port is only used for commands |
| 00:00:52 | bluebrother | karl: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
| 00:00:52 | todko1 | hmm, everytime I try to mount my ipod recently, it just says "Okay to disconnect" so I have to boot into the iPod firmware to mount my ipod >_< |
| 00:00:55 | amiconn | The bulk data transfer uses the block transfer port |
| 00:01:13 | bluebrother | alienbiker99: it's rather easy to construct the link to the wiki if you know the page name ;-) |
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| 00:01:22 | amiconn | H10 doesn't use that (yet), and that extra wait would cost around 20% speed |
| 00:01:35 | zajacattack | i updated last night to get seeking, and now my vids don't play |
| 00:01:38 | amiconn | (H10 svn doesn't have that wait, ipod color/nano does) |
| 00:02:11 | karl | mpeg 2 movie ? |
| 00:02:14 | karl | could that work? |
| 00:02:26 | amiconn | linuxstb: Basically it should not hang or cause graphical glitches. Testing with something gfx intensive would be best |
| 00:02:43 | amiconn | (mandelbrot, plasma, mpegplayer etc. Also test_fps) |
| 00:02:45 | linuxstb | karl: It needs to be encoded according to the instructions on the page we linked you to. |
| 00:02:52 | karl | ok perfect |
| 00:02:55 | karl | thanks |
| 00:03:00 | amiconn | Any volunteers for testing on nano? preglow? |
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| 00:08:05 | preglow | amiconn: sure,what is it? |
| 00:08:31 | amiconn | http://amiconn.dyndns.org/pp-color-lcd3.diff |
| 00:08:58 | amiconn | Patches the PP lcd drivers using the "color" bridge |
| 00:08:58 | preglow | what should i do? |
| 00:09:07 | amiconn | Needs testing for speed and stability |
| 00:09:12 | preglow | test_fps? |
| 00:09:43 | amiconn | Yes, plus watching for gfx glitches, ideally using several gfx intensive plugins |
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| 00:12:34 | preglow | man, make is starting to take quite some time on my poor old box |
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| 00:14:19 | linuxstb | amiconn: No problems that I can see. |
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| 00:14:26 | amiconn | Nice :) |
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| 00:14:47 | Nico_P | amiconn: 1624 bytes less for the mob branch compared to the latest SVN |
| 00:15:04 | amiconn | Now if the block data port also works on H10... I'll hopefully see soon.... |
| 00:15:16 | linuxstb | roolku: I've just tried the "new" mpegplayer for the first time. I'm not sure I like the way it takes me to a menu, rather than playing the video... |
| 00:15:20 | preglow | now, how the hell to increase boost ratio manually on ipods |
| 00:15:34 | preglow | linuxstb: you shouldn't like that... |
| 00:15:44 | amiconn | You have to scroll *left* |
| 00:15:49 | amiconn | Intuitive, eh? |
| 00:15:52 | preglow | ahahhaha |
| 00:16:08 | preglow | i would expect left and right _buttons_ |
| 00:16:43 | roolku | linuxstb: isn't this the same with the archos video player? How else could it be done? |
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| 00:17:18 | linuxstb | roolku: Well, if there's a resume point for that video stored, it could resume it, otherwise just play from the beginning. |
| 00:17:24 | linuxstb | (or ask if you want to resume) |
| 00:17:33 | amiconn | video.rock asks |
| 00:17:50 | roolku | linuxstb: but then you wouldn't be able to seek |
| 00:17:57 | amiconn | ..and if no resume position is stored, plays right away |
| 00:18:08 | preglow | test_fps: 80, 316.5 @ 30. 213.5, 848 @ 80. unchanged after patch |
| 00:18:31 | linuxstb | roolku: I would expect to be able to seek from within mpegplayer, after the video has started playing. |
| 00:19:02 | linuxstb | (using the normal left/right buttons) |
| 00:19:24 | amiconn | whoa! |
| 00:19:27 | preglow | amiconn: isn't this supposed to affect fps? |
| 00:19:37 | * | amiconn got a >3 times speedup in lcd update speed on H10 :D |
| 00:19:51 | roolku | linuxstb: well, that was the discussion we had the last time - it doesn't seek as such, it sets the resume point |
| 00:19:59 | amiconn | preglow: It's probably an immeasurable small speedup |
| 00:20:11 | roolku | linuxstb: which can only be done before playback is started |
| 00:20:15 | preglow | amiconn: nano is already pretty fast, so |
| 00:20:25 | amiconn | 113fps @30MHz, and 303fps @80MHz |
| 00:20:32 | amiconn | (that's fullscreen!) |
| 00:20:40 | preglow | res? |
| 00:20:41 | amiconn | (small H10 though) |
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| 00:20:54 | linuxstb | roolku: I know, but couldn't you just implement seeking by stopping playback and resuming? |
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| 00:21:11 | amiconn | Plasma flies... |
| 00:21:28 | * | preglow wants to see cube.c with gourad shading :> |
| 00:21:40 | preglow | and perspective corrected texture mapping |
| 00:21:59 | [IDC]Dragon | and filtered textures |
| 00:22:00 | roolku | linuxstb: yes, that is on the todo list, but flushing all the buffers cleanly doesn't strike me as easy |
| 00:22:01 | Arathis | amiconn: need someone with a big H10? ;) |
| 00:22:03 | linuxstb | roolku: I understand it's a work-in-progress, it's just a horrible UI at the momment. |
| 00:22:11 | amiconn | Arathis: Not yet, but soon |
| 00:22:19 | Arathis | okay |
| 00:22:26 | amiconn | The big H10 driver is separate, so I have to port the stuff first |
| 00:22:27 | preglow | amiconn: looks stable |
| 00:22:32 | amiconn | preglow: goodie |
| 00:22:46 | preglow | amiconn: bounced through all the stuff in demos/ plus a few games |
| 00:23:00 | amiconn | Fire is faster than on any other target I own... |
| 00:23:14 | preglow | amiconn: what reso is h10? |
| 00:23:22 | linuxstb | About 10x10... |
| 00:23:23 | * | amiconn guesses the H10 won't have any problems with peakmeters soon |
| 00:23:30 | amiconn | preglow: small one is 128*128 |
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| 00:23:36 | preglow | ahh, ok |
| 00:23:46 | preglow | so transfer speed is about as fast as nano |
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| 00:24:09 | amiconn | preglow: yup |
| 00:24:13 | roolku | linuxstb: considering the slowness of the seeking I think it is quite useful, but I realise that there seems to be a demand for seeking after playing has started... |
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| 00:24:29 | amiconn | preglow: Almost exactly, in fact |
| 00:24:43 | amiconn | Hmm, but that means something interesting... |
| 00:24:52 | preglow | does it? |
| 00:25:26 | amiconn | The iPod color should be twice as fast as it actually is... |
| 00:25:28 | linuxstb | roolku: If seeking is going to be this slow in mpeg, maybe we should consider a different container format - one that is more suited to seeking on our devices. |
| 00:25:43 | preglow | matroska? |
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| 00:25:57 | preglow | is the ordinary mpeg one really primitive? |
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| 00:26:28 | amiconn | preglow, linuxstb: Could you make a dump of the 0x70008000...0x70008fff register area (on nano resp. color)? |
| 00:26:52 | Fhantazm | Sansa e260 user here and would like to offer myself as a tester. |
| 00:26:58 | roolku | linuxstb: personally I am very happy with how it is now. I never suddenly get the urge to seek, but I often want to resume halfway into a video after having had to stop |
| 00:27:23 | Fhantazm | Absolutely LOVE whats been done on the Sansa port so far and would like to lend a hand to the developers any way possible |
| 00:27:52 | roolku | linuxstb: I think introducing new and probably more exotic formats will make it harder for the average user to convert their movies |
| 00:27:59 | rasher | Why does the manual use customization rather than customisation? |
| 00:28:01 | amiconn | The iPod color should manage ~45fps @30MHz, and ~125fps @80MHz. There must be some speed config register... |
| 00:28:12 | preglow | amiconn: what, just dump the memory contents to a file? |
| 00:28:17 | amiconn | yes |
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| 00:28:55 | linuxstb | roolku: I agree that's an issue, but IMO performance is important too... |
| 00:29:10 | amiconn | Maybe the color uses a conservative setup for the type 0 LCD, and the type 1 could go faster? |
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| 00:30:42 | pixelma | rasher: I thought there was finally a decision to use -ize (as that can be BE too) and I also wouldn't be surprised to find both spellings in the manual |
| 00:31:00 | roolku | linuxstb: probably for some - I am quite happy with the way it is. I can see possible improvements with the menus though |
| 00:31:15 | amiconn | argh |
| 00:31:20 | amiconn | That menu is really annoying |
| 00:31:37 | roolku | linuxstb: i.e. interrupt playmode to start seeking |
| 00:31:48 | rasher | pixelma: Ah, okay. I didn't know there had been any discussion, and also always thought that BE used -ise rather than -ize. |
| 00:32:46 | roolku | anyway. let me get the fixes for jhMikes' dodgy video files committed :) |
| 00:32:47 | amiconn | roolku: video.rock allows seeking while displaying the video frame. Playback is paused when you start seeking. A seek bar is displayed at the bottom. When you stop seeking, playback continues at the new positioin |
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| 00:33:37 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm quite busy ATM, would you mind sharing your patch? |
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| 00:33:53 | preglow | amiconn: doesn't look like a very busy section of memory |
| 00:34:19 | amiconn | Probably lots of register aliases? |
| 00:34:23 | preglow | int lol = open("/dump", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT); \n write(lol, (void *)0x70008000, 0x1000); \n close(lol); |
| 00:34:29 | preglow | just put that in app_main, before root_menu() |
| 00:35:01 | preglow | amiconn: www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/dump |
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| 00:35:14 | amiconn | 403 |
| 00:35:30 | preglow | right, copied from nano |
| 00:35:45 | preglow | n0ow |
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| 00:37:04 | preglow | anything interesting? |
| 00:37:16 | amiconn | Thanks. |
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| 00:38:14 | amiconn | 0x70008b00 is sparse-decoded as 0x70008bxx |
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| 00:39:00 | amiconn | In the 0x70008axx ange there are some more registers than those known from ipl |
| 00:39:07 | amiconn | (also heavily aliased though) |
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| 00:40:13 | keithr | trying to build on debian lenny −− get make error about arm-elf-gcc missing −− anyone know what to install to fix this problem? |
| 00:40:21 | amiconn | 0x70008a00 and 0x70008a04 look interesting |
| 00:40:31 | Bagder | keithr: you installed the cross compiler at all? |
| 00:40:57 | keithr | Badger: Nope |
| 00:41:26 | keithr | Bagder: is there a package? |
| 00:41:33 | Bagder | keithr: you on cygwin or linux? |
| 00:41:45 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxDevelopment |
| 00:41:46 | keithr | Bagder: Linux |
| 00:41:55 | Bagder | then http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 00:42:32 | keithr | Bagder: Thanks much. |
| 00:45:54 | * | adiamas waves at bagder |
| 00:46:01 | adiamas | glad to see you're still fighting the good fight |
| 00:46:19 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:46:24 | Bagder | good to see you alive! |
| 00:46:28 | adiamas | heheh |
| 00:46:33 | adiamas | it's been a while |
| 00:46:45 | adiamas | oddly enough.. i _still_ running on the same jukebox recorder |
| 00:46:47 | adiamas | lol |
| 00:46:59 | pixelma | roolku: I couldn't figure out how I'm supposed to resume by the way (and also am annoyed to have to choose play a second time) |
| 00:47:45 | roolku | pixelma: note sure what you mean? You just select the second option in the menu? |
| 00:48:15 | roolku | (from memory) |
| 00:48:38 | amiconn | roolku: The menu is especially annoying as it causes mpegplayer to buffer the video twice |
| 00:49:01 | amiconn | Once when loading, before showing the menu. A second time when choosing playback |
| 00:49:05 | jhMikeS | amiconn: 3x speedup for what? Just general lcd access on H10? damn |
| 00:49:20 | pixelma | roolku: well I only saw that staying at 0,0 and of course it started from the beginning again - will try with ED and run it for a bit longer as that's the longest video I have) |
| 00:49:22 | amiconn | jhMikeS: lcd_update() / lcd_update_rect() |
| 00:49:40 | amiconn | Just small H10 atm, and lcd_yuv_blit() not yet converted |
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| 00:49:58 | amiconn | I'm about to replicate the changes for big H10, will need a tester then... |
| 00:50:04 | roolku | amiconn: okay, added to the todo list |
| 00:50:18 | amiconn | roolku: Please, get rid of that menu again... |
| 00:50:44 | * | jhMikeS wonders how the PP retailos can be so clunky with music playing. even using one core only rb isn't as clunky. |
| 00:51:26 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Exact figures for small H10: 30MHz: 35->113fps, 80MHz: 93->303fps |
| 00:51:28 | |Rain| | the almighty buck promotes short development times and poor QA |
| 00:51:38 | pixelma | roolku: ok, just didn't expect it to be in half minute steps... |
| 00:51:58 | jhMikeS | amiconn: *blink* that's full, not 1/4 screen, right? |
| 00:52:02 | amiconn | yup |
| 00:52:31 | amiconn | big H10 should reach 80% of that, inversely proportional to lcd resolution |
| 00:52:32 | linuxstb | amiconn: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/dump-color.bin (thanks preglow) |
| 00:52:43 | Nico_P | amiconn: how did you achieve such a speedup ? |
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| 00:53:12 | * | jhMikeS ought to go grab the bridge init code for that as well |
| 00:53:50 | linuxstb | roolku: Also, why does mpegplayer clear the button queue before bringing up the start menu? It prevents me skipping the startup menu by pressing select twice |
| 00:54:22 | * | linuxstb guesses he did that originally, so shouldn't be complaining... |
| 00:54:36 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I'm especially interested in the meaning of 0x70008a00 and 0x70008a04 |
| 00:54:41 | amiconn | linuxstb: Thanks. |
| 00:55:08 | amiconn | The mentioned registers really look like some kind of timing setup - and they have larger values on ipod color |
| 00:55:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: any effects observed from poking at them? |
| 00:55:14 | amiconn | Not yet |
| 00:55:22 | amiconn | Too busy converting stuff |
| 00:55:23 | roolku | well, removing the startmenu is definitely the next task then :) |
| 00:55:30 | amiconn | Want to do the yuv blit next |
| 00:55:48 | amiconn | Not too many steps at once |
| 00:56:16 | jhMikeS | understood |
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| 00:57:26 | Nico_P | Bagder: that's fast bugfixing |
| 00:57:39 | pixelma | roolku: wouldn't it be possible to store the exact position at least for resume (admittedly I don't know anything about how it works) |
| 00:57:44 | Bagder | I had a look and I saw the bug immediately... |
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| 00:59:50 | roolku | pixelma: yes in principle, but I don't think the result warrants the required effort |
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| 01:00:13 | amiconn | Hmmm, the big H10 causes problems :( |
| 01:00:37 | * | jhMikeS grumbles |
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| 01:01:14 | pixelma | roolku: ok, wouldn't have expected it to be that complicated but have to believe you :) |
| 01:01:24 | amiconn | jhMikeS: For some reason lcd_send_data() sends in the opposite order compared to the small H10 |
| 01:02:09 | amiconn | For command data we can keep that, but if we want to send bulk data via the block controller, this gets in the way |
| 01:02:25 | amiconn | We might need to switch to the ipod's color pixel format for the big H10 |
| 01:02:42 | jhMikeS | hehe, was going to say "endian swap" :) |
| 01:03:03 | amiconn | Hmm, interesting |
| 01:03:16 | amiconn | The small H10 already uses it, but the big H10 doesn't |
| 01:03:20 | kugel | what do you guys think of http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6960 ? |
| 01:03:45 | jhMikeS | That just means changing the bitmap format and pixel format? |
| 01:04:01 | Llorean | roolku, linuxstb: There's a post in the forums reporting that videos that worked previously are now showing up as just green splotches post resume patch |
| 01:04:20 | Llorean | I seem to remember people reporting a similar problem in the past in unsupported build threads where the resume patch had been included. |
| 01:05:06 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yes, basically. There might be some quirks to iron out regarding command parameters |
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| 01:05:18 | * | amiconn hates it to code blindly :| |
| 01:05:20 | jhMikeS | I thought there was something in the driver IC setup to swap. Maybe the bridge can swap. It wouldn't surprise me given that others can also do it. |
| 01:05:37 | amiconn | The bridge can't swap as it seems |
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| 01:07:30 | pixelma | Llorean: I only know the of green blocks with mpegplayer when using voice that was fixed recently... and now it's back... |
| 01:07:46 | Llorean | pixelma: Ah, so it could be that? |
| 01:08:01 | pixelma | just confirmed on my c200, enabled voice and voila |
| 01:08:08 | Llorean | I'll ask the |
| 01:08:09 | Llorean | n |
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| 01:09:10 | pixelma | roolku: the patch seems to revert some changes that were done to mpegplayer recently... |
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| 01:09:43 | roolku | yep, noted |
| 01:10:01 | pixelma | though I havent tried latest current yet |
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| 01:11:07 | jhMikeS | yeah, the thread safety stuff for the queue (because object aren't yet dual safe). Though the changes are also make it simpler and require no mutexes. |
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| 01:16:18 | roolku | is this a dual code issue then? |
| 01:17:06 | Morey | I've gotten a lot of possitive feedback on the mpegplayer menus from users. |
| 01:17:27 | pixelma | no, it applied to coldfire targets as well, it was something with the voice disabling - jhMikeSshould no better |
| 01:17:28 | ToHellWithGA | are any of yall experts with the jpeg viewer plugin? i would like to disable its autozoom feature as i'm using my ipod to catch the images from webcomic rss feeds. with the autozooming enabled i cannot read any text |
| 01:17:43 | * | pixelma should give up typing for today |
| 01:17:46 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Found a mistake in the small H10 lcd driver |
| 01:17:56 | roolku | linuxstb etc: Morey is one of the authors |
| 01:18:02 | amiconn | Looks like adapting the technique will be easier than I thought |
| 01:18:11 | Llorean | ToHellWithGA: I don't even know what you mean by "autozooming". It has 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, and I think 1/8 zoom levels, and you can switch between any of them if memory permits. |
| 01:18:19 | amiconn | (still requiring the format switch) |
| 01:19:04 | ToHellWithGA | Llorean: it picks a level automagically to scale the image to fit on the screen. i'd like to disable that feature in some configuration file |
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| 01:20:00 | ToHellWithGA | the things i want to view go from illegible to hard to read to clear as i go from 1/4 to 1/2 to 1/1 |
| 01:20:31 | Llorean | You'd need to patch it then. |
| 01:20:39 | Llorean | I don't believe there's an option for such a thing |
| 01:21:01 | ToHellWithGA | is the code so gnarly it would make my head spin, or would that be a simple fix to build? |
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| 01:21:15 | Llorean | Haven't looked at it. |
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| 01:21:39 | ToHellWithGA | i'll download the source and see if i can find it and understand it |
| 01:22:00 | roolku | Morey: any idea about the green blocks? |
| 01:22:01 | ToHellWithGA | thanks man |
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| 01:22:23 | linuxstb | Morey: So you're happy with the startup menu? |
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| 01:23:10 | roolku | Morey: jhMike might be able to help, see: "<jhMikeS> yeah, the thread safety stuff for the queue (because object aren't yet dual safe). Though the changes are also make it simpler and require no mutexes." |
| 01:23:12 | Morey | roolku: That seemed like an issue that was resolved about a week ago. Was that an old post about the problem. |
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| 01:23:58 | roolku | Morey: "<pixelma> roolku: the patch seems to revert some changes that were done to mpegplayer recently..." |
| 01:24:01 | linuxstb | amiconn: How many resume points does video.rock remember? Is it just one? |
| 01:24:09 | amiconn | yes |
| 01:24:09 | jhMikeS | green blocks should be gone. that was a problem with voice menus not being disabled. |
| 01:24:32 | amiconn | linuxstb: The resume point is stored *in* the .rvf. We can do that since it's our own format |
| 01:24:36 | Morey | linuxstb: I think the startup menu and playback menu should be combined into one menu. |
| 01:24:48 | pixelma | and reintroduced by the menu patch |
| 01:24:57 | linuxstb | Morey: It's just that it's annoying when I select a file to play, and it doesn't play it... |
| 01:25:05 | Morey | linuxstb: Unlimited resumes stored in the .cfg file. |
| 01:25:18 | roolku | jhMikeS: okay, fair enough, I thought they had reappeared |
| 01:25:28 | pixelma | but I'm testing once more with the latest svn |
| 01:25:37 | jhMikeS | roolku: not my fault if they did :P |
| 01:25:52 | roolku | :) |
| 01:26:29 | pixelma | r15057 they are back |
| 01:27:05 | jhMikeS | was the voice disabling removed along with the threading stuff? |
| 01:27:32 | * | jhMikeS takes a closer look |
| 01:28:12 | roolku | I'm trying to find the relevant commit |
| 01:28:19 | pixelma | maybe it's because the changes weren't adopted for the new menu? |
| 01:28:30 | pixelma | 3October 3rd |
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| 01:28:42 | Morey | linuxstb: I do think the seek and resume should be included in the playback menu, but I like the startup menu. |
| 01:29:09 | * | Llorean doesn't like the idea of having to do anything more than click on a .mpg to play it |
| 01:29:11 | pixelma | the startup menu annoys me |
| 01:29:24 | Llorean | They should, from a user perspective, work fundamentally similar to songs. |
| 01:30:00 | pixelma | the rvf player is IMO much more intuitive in that regard |
| 01:30:20 | Morey | Once the menus are combined the startup menu could be removed. Then it would be up the user to bring up the menu if they wish. |
| 01:31:28 | jhMikeS | hmmm...talk_disable_menus() is called before the startup menu is shown |
| 01:32:02 | Morey | I think that a 30 second jump by pushing left/right buttons during playback could be done but the jump would take around 4 seconds. |
| 01:33:05 | roolku | jhMikeS: yes, I saw that - is this a problem? |
| 01:33:21 | linuxstb | Morey: I would like to see the start menu go, but if there is a resume point stored for the current file, the user could be prompted with a yes/no prompt to play from the resume point. That's how the other Rockbox video player works IIUC. |
| 01:33:30 | jhMikeS | roolku: that's where it should go...before any menu is shown...it might be the splash |
| 01:33:42 | Llorean | linuxstb: I agree. |
| 01:34:13 | jhMikeS | there's no talk_disable_splash() yet? better get that one in SVN then. |
| 01:34:18 | pixelma | weird, I don't have that on the M5 where I could also see bright blocks on black before (r15074) |
| 01:34:42 | jhMikeS | roolku: ah, I see the difficulty |
| 01:35:48 | jhMikeS | we must wait for any splash to stop voicing, then IRAM can be initialized |
| 01:36:21 | linuxstb | Morey: I haven't looked at your code in detail, but do you think the seeking can be made any faster? If not, what do you think about investigating other container formats, ones which are more seeking friendly? |
| 01:36:31 | jhMikeS | after that, splashes must not voice |
| 01:37:07 | * | roolku never knew splashes were voiced... |
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| 01:39:10 | Morey | linuxstb: In my opinion the seeking is optimized about all it can be for these processors. I don't know about other containers, maybe jhMikeS has some thought on that. |
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| 01:39:51 | linuxstb | Morey: Would that be something you would be interested in working on though? |
| 01:40:25 | amiconn | jhMikeS: 1st try: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/pp-color-lcd4.diff |
| 01:40:38 | amiconn | You need to 'make clean' and reconfigure |
| 01:40:44 | Morey | linuxstb: I will certainly look into it and run it by the Gwynne (the co-author of this patch) |
| 01:40:44 | amiconn | (changed bitmap format) |
| 01:40:59 | jhMikeS | sparse buffering. Everthing seems buffered in between one point and another or else it wouldn't take so long. |
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| 01:41:54 | Morey | linuxstb: I'm hoping to spend some time this weekend making an attemp at combining the menu system as well. |
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| 01:42:25 | preglow | amiconn: i did not make clean and reconfigure... |
| 01:42:35 | amiconn | preglow: *you* don't need to |
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| 01:42:39 | preglow | then hooray |
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| 01:42:43 | amiconn | Only big H10 needs it |
| 01:42:54 | preglow | was hoping for some speedups there, for a second :) |
| 01:42:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn: ok. this'll take a few minutes since I need to do a full build (cleaned out all the builds in other trees other than dc) |
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| 01:43:07 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Want a build? |
| 01:43:20 | jhMikeS | sure, that will be faster |
| 01:43:34 | amiconn | I hope just the .mi4 is sufficient? |
| 01:43:52 | amiconn | Or wait a few more mins |
| 01:43:53 | jhMikeS | as long as I play no music |
| 01:44:24 | rasher | http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/ is what we show users when they follow the manual for "automatic installation". Why not a page on rockbox.org, linking these files? |
| 01:44:29 | amiconn | Yeah, but you might want to try plugins... |
| 01:44:54 | jhMikeS | yeah, they're not compatible here...so I'll just switch over and build from a clean one |
| 01:45:16 | amiconn | Build is already running... |
| 01:45:35 | linuxstb | rasher: Yes, those kinds of links appear in a few places in the manual. Another option would be for the manual to have direct links to files. |
| 01:45:56 | roolku | sorry, got to go ... |
| 01:46:00 | rasher | linuxstb: that'd require the manual to change each time there was the smallest of changes |
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| 01:46:17 | linuxstb | rasher: That's no different to changing a webpage... |
| 01:46:18 | jhMikeS | well, I started one too but I think you'll beat me to it |
| 01:46:31 | linuxstb | rasher: Or we keep the filenames the same... |
| 01:46:31 | rasher | linuxstb: except the user has to download a new manual |
| 01:46:47 | linuxstb | rasher: True, I forget there's a PDF... |
| 01:47:11 | spky | is there an ipod simulator for evilg's build? |
| 01:47:21 | linuxstb | Ask evilg... |
| 01:47:29 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Depends... if you build on linux yours might be faster... |
| 01:47:49 | jhMikeS | just good ol' VMWare |
| 01:47:59 | pixelma | linuxstb: and then link to all versions for the different OSs? |
| 01:48:08 | linuxstb | pixelma: Yes. |
| 01:48:10 | jhMikeS | making libfaad now |
| 01:48:20 | amiconn | Hmm, the controller in the small H10 might be something else than TL1771 after all |
| 01:48:54 | rasher | linuxstb: I think a few central download pages (one for rbutil, one for builds and one for install tools?) would be saner |
| 01:48:59 | linuxstb | Although maybe we could have a new "Installation" page - with links to rbutil and links to the manual. |
| 01:49:13 | Morey | linuxstb: Gwynne is going to look into possible a different container. The goal would be to find one that has foward and backword indexing. avi might be an option, we'll have to look further into it. |
| 01:49:21 | pixelma | linuxstb: I would think that could be a long list and would also be confusing but have no strong opinion or idea about it, quite tired about to get some sleep |
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| 01:49:42 | * | jhMikeS is thinking WTF little booboo he made he can't find on single-core and getting frustrated. :\ |
| 01:49:48 | linuxstb | pixelma: Yes, I'm against my own idea now as well... |
| 01:50:23 | pixelma | heh, if you say so :) good night all |
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| 01:51:52 | linuxstb | Morey: The problem with .avi of course is that it will confuse people into thinking Rockbox can play any .avi... |
| 01:52:45 | linuxstb | But I think it's at least worth investigating other containers, to see if they are worth the effort. |
| 01:52:49 | Llorean | Yes, people seem to think AVI is a type of video stream, rather than a container. |
| 01:52:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: Doesn't mpeg have time stamps in the frames? |
| 01:53:18 | linuxstb | It does. |
| 01:53:43 | Llorean | Of course, if we picked winff as our "official" conversion tool, we could use AVI as the container, but have it automatically name the output file something else, so the people who really have no idea won't see that it's avi anyway (but anyone who reads the docs or asks would of course be told) |
| 01:53:45 | amiconn | So seeking should be possible without reading all the way through the file |
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| 01:54:33 | amiconn | (provided a resync to the stream isn't too costly - without actually decoding the video) |
| 01:54:35 | jhMikeS | amiconn: it's loaded with various kind of timestamps, not just PTS. |
| 01:55:14 | amiconn | Just a binary search through the file, and if already playing for a while, it could be supported by an estimation |
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| 01:55:24 | jhMikeS | not to mention syncwords. it could actually decode some video while seeking for thumbnailing. |
| 01:56:00 | jhMikeS | MPEG 2 has 1/2 frequency D-frames just for FF/RW purposes as well |
| 01:56:03 | amiconn | jhMikeS: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/rockbox-h10.zip |
| 01:56:24 | linuxstb | D-frames? |
| 01:56:27 | jhMikeS | amiconn: thanks |
| 01:57:00 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: Those are for seeking purposes in MPEG2 so players can play double-speed and backward and such. |
| 01:57:55 | amiconn | Isn't that a lot of extra data just for seeking? |
| 01:58:20 | jhMikeS | they're all keyframes, so don't need to reference other frames and the low-pass filtered. |
| 01:58:38 | jhMikeS | I don't know if they're _just_ for seeking |
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| 01:59:42 | jhMikeS | amiconn: it comes with test_fps too? |
| 01:59:58 | amiconn | yes |
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| 02:00:06 | jhMikeS | the rockbox logo is borked but the screen looks ok |
| 02:00:22 | amiconn | Hmm.... |
| 02:00:28 | amiconn | Borked in what way? |
| 02:00:46 | jhMikeS | two small images 1/4 screen size at the top half of the display |
| 02:01:42 | amiconn | Oh, hmm |
| 02:01:52 | * | amiconn wonders what's going wrong there |
| 02:02:02 | jhMikeS | 30MHz: 1/1 129fps. 1/4 542.5 fps 80MHz: makes the screen show like the rb logo |
| 02:02:03 | amiconn | Are the colours correct? |
| 02:02:07 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 02:02:24 | amiconn | Aha, so the LCD controller can't handle the bridge timing when boosted |
| 02:02:48 | amiconn | Could you do the 0x70008000..0x70008fff dump too? |
| 02:02:55 | amiconn | (with your normal build) |
| 02:03:08 | jhMikeS | no patch? |
| 02:03:31 | jhMikeS | not the one you just sent, correct? |
| 02:03:46 | amiconn | [00:34:22] <preglow> int lol = open("/dump", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT); \n write(lol, (void *)0x70008000, 0x1000); \n close(lol); |
| 02:03:46 | amiconn | [00:34:29] <preglow> just put that in app_main, before root_menu() |
| 02:03:58 | amiconn | ...without my patch |
| 02:04:15 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 02:04:54 | amiconn | So the big H10 needs some more work - finding out how to set the bridge timing |
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| 02:05:28 | amiconn | I'll commit my changes then except using the block transfer on big H10 |
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| 02:06:50 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps a quick check would be better... |
| 02:09:57 | * | amiconn now remembers this half-size graphics effect |
| 02:09:58 | jhMikeS | http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/H10-20GB-regdump-0x70008000-0x70008fff.bin |
| 02:10:20 | amiconn | Got it when experimenting with dma on H300, and there were too few waitstates |
| 02:11:44 | amiconn | 0x70008000 is zeroed - that's probably the fastest possible setting in the bridge... |
| 02:12:22 | * | amiconn thinks the Nano settings should work - the nano has the same lcd controller |
| 02:13:18 | amiconn | But I need some sleep soon, so no experimentation regading those regs now |
| 02:13:48 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Could you please check a new build? Same url... |
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| 02:14:11 | jhMikeS | sure...it's ready now? |
| 02:14:14 | amiconn | yes |
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| 02:14:30 | amiconn | Just to make sure it doesn't break something |
| 02:14:50 | amiconn | I'll dig into these regs further, after getting this stuff committed |
| 02:14:55 | jhMikeS | H10 isn't so fragile any more |
| 02:15:07 | linuxstb | amiconn: Do you need anything more testing from me, I'm about to go to sleep? |
| 02:15:10 | amiconn | Yes, but gfx glitches look ugly |
| 02:15:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: No tests on color needed atm. Thanks for testing :) |
| 02:16:01 | amiconn | jhMikeS: gfx glitches are nasty... |
| 02:16:20 | * | amiconn repeats himself |
| 02:16:23 | jhMikeS | hehe...now the colors are whacked. now just black and white look right. |
| 02:16:32 | amiconn | Oh? |
| 02:16:34 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 02:16:43 | linuxstb | amiconn: OK, goodnight. |
| 02:16:54 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Now I need a swap16() |
| 02:17:12 | amiconn | (temporarily, until we can use the block transfer) |
| 02:17:27 | jhMikeS | yeah, it appears like swapping |
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| 02:17:53 | amiconn | Yeah, I know what I did wrong... swapped pixel format requires swapping, or another write fn |
| 02:18:01 | amiconn | I'll do the latter, as it's faster |
| 02:19:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Is video also colour swapped? |
| 02:19:22 | amiconn | I guess it is... |
| 02:20:04 | jhMikeS | nope |
| 02:20:12 | amiconn | ah ok |
| 02:20:18 | amiconn | Too late at naight :/ |
| 02:22:21 | * | jhMikeS just has some odd feeling the controller can swap bytes |
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| 02:27:22 | lymeca | I have a 30GB iPod video that was HFS+ formatted and I'm running GNU+Linux on my computer. |
| 02:27:39 | lymeca | I just used dd to copy the correct MBR file from the Rockbox wiki and copied it to /dev/sdc |
| 02:27:49 | lymeca | (which was the iPod HDD device file) |
| 02:28:07 | lymeca | Isn't that the correct thing to do? |
| 02:28:45 | jhMikeS | lymeca: so you have an iPod Video 30GB that boots with the latest SVN. I'm asking because of a user report on the same model. |
| 02:28:54 | lymeca | No |
| 02:29:14 | lymeca | It was HFS+ formatted and using the proprietary Apple firmware that was shipped with the device. |
| 02:29:51 | jhMikeS | ah, so you're installing now |
| 02:29:54 | lymeca | Now it's just restarting over and over again with audible clicking noises occasionally |
| 02:30:19 | lymeca | Yeah I was trying to copy the new partition table to the MBR of the device so I could format the partition with FAT32 |
| 02:30:36 | lymeca | But I perhaps have messed up since... |
| 02:30:36 | jhMikeS | I've heard of that but I don't have that model so I don't know what causes that problem. |
| 02:30:42 | lymeca | How do I boot into disk mode? |
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| 02:31:22 | jhMikeS | I'm sure those procedure must be in the iPod installation Wiki |
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| 02:37:12 | amiconn | Whoa, -6KB for the big H10 - just due to optimising... |
| 02:37:39 | amiconn | Almost -7KB in fact |
| 02:40:06 | preglow | that's quite sick... |
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| 02:46:21 | * | jhMikeS is glad amiconn is making room for his latest work :) |
| 02:47:03 | jhMikeS | even more than needed in fact |
| 02:48:24 | amiconn | I know the reason for the huge green delta... lcd_write_reg() is all inline stuff, and got simplified *a lot* |
| 02:48:53 | amiconn | I doubt that it *needs* to be inline, so there's room for some more green delta |
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| 02:49:28 | amiconn | The performance critical places could use the 2 partial functions directly (which would still be inline) |
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| 02:51:49 | amiconn | But now, sleep() |
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| 03:00:38 | preglow | beware that sleep always sleeps 1 more than you ask for! :P |
| 03:07:28 | jhMikeS | preglow: sort of. only if you sleep exactly on a tick boundary. otherwise it's ticks + remaining_time in reality |
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| 03:12:11 | preglow | i'm starting to need some sleep rather bad |
| 03:12:23 | preglow | think i'll just go fix that |
| 03:12:25 | preglow | nightie |
| 03:13:11 | jhMikeS | toodles :P |
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| 03:37:59 | Mouser_X | In cygwin, how do I delete a directory? |
| 03:38:09 | Mouser_X | (with subdirectories?) |
| 03:38:35 | Mouser_X | My SVN trunk/rockbox stuff won't compile. |
| 03:38:38 | jhMikeS | rm -r <dir>/* ? |
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| 03:39:15 | jhMikeS | or just "rm -r <dir>" |
| 03:39:23 | Klevi | Quick question, can the Sansa e200 tool be used to unbrick the sansa c200? |
| 03:40:04 | Mouser_X | jhMikeS: Someone told me awhile ago (2 weeks maybe?). I thought it had to be a capitol -R? (I couldn't remember the command, but I remember a capitol R. It might relate to something else though). |
| 03:40:41 | jhMikeS | Mouser_X: Debian anyway shows -r, -R, and −−recursive as acceptable |
| 03:41:16 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
| 03:41:22 | Mouser_X | Thanks. |
| 03:41:50 | Mouser_X | Or, is there a way to make my SVN identical to the one on the site, w/o deleting my current set? |
| 03:42:18 | Mouser_X | I tried to do "svn update" but that didn't work. I even tried to checkout again, and it said I already had the most recent version. |
| 03:44:02 | PaulJam_ | i use 'svn diff | patch -p0 -R' but i think svn revert works also |
| 03:44:23 | Mouser_X | I tried to revert the patches I added, but it's still not working. |
| 03:44:47 | Mouser_X | (Or do you mean something different?) |
| 03:45:24 | PaulJam_ | i ment the whole comand between the ' ' |
| 03:46:29 | Llorean | "svn revert -R *" should convert all the files back to the SVN versions of it, but it won't delete any non-SVN files or anything |
| 03:46:38 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
| 03:46:41 | Mouser_X | Thanks. |
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| 03:56:16 | Soligna | Hey, I just flashed my sansa e200r with rockbox and when I boot it says load main image failed switch to recovery mode |
| 03:58:09 | Mouser_X | I just remembered another question I had. When I attempt to use/view the Rockbox database (I use it for the "History" and the "User Rating"), it says "Dir buffer full" and then displays an empty/blank screen. |
| 03:58:42 | Mouser_X | I tried upping the limits on the directory buffer (I have it at the highest it will go), but it made no difference. |
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| 04:00:17 | PaulJam_ | have you rebooted after setting the limits? |
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| 04:05:31 | Mouser_X | Yes. |
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| 04:06:40 | Mouser_X | No? I thought I had changed the settings before updating the database. |
| 04:07:17 | Mouser_X | (After updating the database, I had to reboot to view the database.) |
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| 04:08:41 | Mouser_X | But, checking just now, it's working. So apparently I had changed settings *after* updating the database (and then rebooting). |
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| 04:22:22 | Mouser_X | So, if I want to use the database, I have to have a high directory buffer? |
| 04:23:05 | Mouser_X | I've got 30,000+ (easily) files on my Gigabeat. I don't think the directory buffer goes that high... |
| 04:24:13 | Ebert | you should know, if you've looked in that menu |
| 04:24:35 | alienbiker99 | Mouser_X i don't think theres a limit as long as your change it in that menu |
| 04:25:15 | Mouser_X | My recollection is 10,000 is that the directory buffer can only go to 10,000. I was in a hurry, so I didn't look very closely. |
| 04:25:47 | Mouser_X | (Sorry for the broken sentence. I started one thing, and then changed it, without getting rid of the first...) |
| 04:26:48 | alienbiker99 | hmm now i'm not even sure. |
| 04:30:49 | Llorean | I didn't think that the database was restricted by the directory buffer limit |
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| 04:33:49 | JdGordon | there is no limit to the amount of files the db can hold (im 99% sure), but it is limited by the directory limit on the amount of files it can read in each directory |
| 04:34:27 | Llorean | JdGordon: I thought that it browsed by part somehow |
| 04:35:21 | JdGordon | ? |
| 04:35:31 | Llorean | I seem to recall a lot of discussion on this. |
| 04:35:41 | JdGordon | of there being a file limit? |
| 04:35:53 | Llorean | Of there not needing to be a list-length limit for database |
| 04:35:59 | Llorean | Or maybe it was dircache. |
| 04:36:20 | Llorean | I remember the term "browsing by part" or something, but don't remember exactly what was meant with it |
| 04:36:41 | Llorean | Database does seem to have a file limit too, though I believe it's more a bug than an intended limit. |
| 04:38:04 | Ebert | what's the car adapter mode do? |
| 04:39:13 | Llorean | Pauses the device when external power is cut off |
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| 04:46:07 | sdoyon | When following a bookmark from the MRB, is it intentional that we don't GO_TO_WPS but rather drop back into the root menu? |
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| 04:52:14 | sdoyon | jdgordon: are you there? |
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| 04:53:47 | TNTales | hello |
| 04:53:59 | TNTales | anyone awake? |
| 04:54:33 | scorche | if you have a question/concern, feel free to voice it |
| 04:54:35 | TNTales | I'm in over my head with a sansa 260r that windows no longer recognizes, could someone walk me through this |
| 04:54:50 | scorche | well, what did you do? |
| 04:55:02 | TNTales | I have one of the Rhapsody players |
| 04:55:22 | TNTales | and I was following the instructions for |
| 04:55:26 | TNTales | patching the bootloader |
| 04:55:40 | TNTales | there is a part where you run e200tool recover |
| 04:55:56 | TNTales | and it looks for a driver and for whatever reason it didn't find it |
| 04:56:12 | TNTales | and now windows says "unknown device" and when |
| 04:56:15 | scorche | please use paragraphs instead of hitting the enter key every so often...it makes it much easier to read and is much less spammy |
| 04:56:29 | scorche | are you doing this in windows? |
| 04:57:06 | TNTales | as you wish. Windows says unknown device and I am unable to manually install the driver through Device manager because it says "this does not contain information about your device" and yes, it's windows xp sp2 |
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| 04:57:55 | * | jhMikeS wonders what the mutex testing is supposed to be for in ata.c. prevent deadlocks? |
| 04:58:26 | scorche | TNTales: did you happen to see this on the instructions? " NOTE: Bootloader patching in Windows is even more difficult than in Linux. Do NOT perform these steps unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing (especially with drivers)." |
| 04:58:52 | TNTales | yes. I did. The think was bricked anyway with the original firmware so I thought I'd try it. How else do you learn? |
| 04:59:30 | TNTales | "thing" was bricked |
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| 05:00:57 | scorche | what do you mean? |
| 05:01:00 | TNTales | I called SanDisk support and they sent me several files and I tried formatting and reinstalling the provided firmware |
| 05:01:13 | scorche | what was wrong with it? |
| 05:01:20 | TNTales | and all it does is say "load main image faild Switch to recovery mode" |
| 05:01:37 | scorche | well, what did you do originally to get it "bricked"? |
| 05:01:48 | TNTales | Unhooked it from the PC |
| 05:01:58 | scorche | before that |
| 05:02:07 | TNTales | was hot swapping and it lit up real bright and poof |
| 05:02:14 | TNTales | I was adding files and deleting them |
| 05:02:28 | alienbiker99 | was it updating the firmware? |
| 05:02:54 | TNTales | adding some and deleting other that is. I don't believe so, I hadn't told it to upgrade and I didn't have the update/loader installed at the time |
| 05:03:26 | TNTales | I've had it less than a week. When they told me I'd have to return it I thought I'd try installing rockbox before I shipped it back |
| 05:03:47 | scorche | TNTales: so did you execute the recover command? |
| 05:04:21 | TNTales | yes and it goes into a countdown: searching for (driver name) 9 8 7 6 ... so on and then says "not found" |
| 05:04:37 | scorche | ok...lets do something different... |
| 05:04:53 | scorche | hold power for 15 seconds or until the blue light turns off |
| 05:04:54 | * | jhMikeS sees JdGordon made the commit in r11461 that added the lock test and sees JdGordon is lurking :) |
| 05:05:12 | TNTales | power is now off. |
| 05:05:28 | scorche | the hold switch is on, right? |
| 05:05:39 | TNTales | yes, hold switch is now on |
| 05:05:52 | scorche | and usb is plugged in? |
| 05:06:16 | TNTales | not yet, do I need to put in in a particular mode first (recovery, main, manafacturing)? |
| 05:06:25 | scorche | no...just plug it in without touching any buttons |
| 05:06:50 | scorche | then hold down record and hit the power button |
| 05:07:01 | TNTales | ok. It came on and said "key locked, system shutdown" |
| 05:07:13 | TNTales | now in recovery mode |
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| 05:07:46 | TNTales | It says "USB Cable connected" but isn't saying that it's in the MSD mode |
| 05:07:58 | scorche | is it showing up in your computer? |
| 05:08:05 | TNTales | this is where windows tells me in device manager as an unknown device |
| 05:08:15 | scorche | it should detect it.. |
| 05:08:25 | TNTales | yeah "Unknown Device" let me try again |
| 05:09:13 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:09:25 | TNTales | ok, uninstalled, unplugged and I've put it back in recovery mode, going to see if it detects |
| 05:09:47 | scorche | uninstalled? |
| 05:09:53 | TNTales | Ok, found usb device "Unknown Device" Your new hardware is installed and ready to use |
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| 05:10:03 | ArchFool | W00t! |
| 05:10:05 | TNTales | yeah, in device manager, I uninstalled "Unknown Device" |
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| 05:10:15 | scorche | you dont need to do that |
| 05:10:25 | TNTales | oh, ok, sorry |
| 05:10:34 | scorche | in the future, please do what i ask, and not anything more that you assume to do....it could be bad ;) |
| 05:10:40 | TNTales | ok :) |
| 05:10:44 | TNTales | do we need to start over? |
| 05:11:33 | scorche | try the process over again...(turn off, plug in, boot into recovery mode, see if it will mount) |
| 05:12:28 | TNTales | I am booted into recovery mode, it says "Welcome to Recovery Mode" USB Cable Connected |
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| 05:12:49 | scorche | and windows...? |
| 05:12:51 | TNTales | waiting for old computer to recognize device (I'm building a new one, let's hope that goes better than this, lol) |
| 05:14:17 | TNTales | ah, found the problem, still had a device manager window opened. I've closed everything except mozilla and IRC now, |
| 05:14:29 | TNTales | Computer says "USB Device Not Recognized" |
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| 05:14:49 | advcomp2019 | TNTales, you said old computer... what operating system |
| 05:14:54 | TNTales | xp sp2 |
| 05:15:12 | TNTales | By old I mean 5-6 years |
| 05:15:17 | advcomp2019 | ok |
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| 05:15:24 | scorche | TNTales: have you tried plugging it into a different port? |
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| 05:15:30 | Mouser_X | When deleting a directory (and its subdirectories) in cygwin, how do you do "Yes to all"? |
| 05:15:37 | psycho_maniac | TNTales: this might be a long shit but it works for me sometimes. do you always have the coard plugged in and you just plug in the part to the player when you want? |
| 05:15:51 | TNTales | yes psycho_maniac, that is how I do it |
| 05:15:54 | alienbiker99 | you might want to restart after switching drivers and such, but idk too much about your process here |
| 05:16:31 | scorche | Mouser_X: rm -rf |
| 05:16:33 | TNTales | I will plug into another port and try the process again |
| 05:16:55 | Mouser_X | scorche: Thanks |
| 05:17:13 | TNTales | turning power off first, then unplug both ends. then does it matter which of the 2 I plug in first, device or computer? |
| 05:17:20 | scorche | no |
| 05:18:41 | TNTales | ok, plugged into new port. I will plug in the player with hold on and when it powers off I will hold record while turning on the power, correct? |
| 05:19:00 | scorche | yes |
| 05:19:34 | TNTales | powered up into recovery mode, windows has recognized the device and is thinking |
| 05:20:12 | TNTales | device now says "Enter USB2.0 MSD Mode" and Windows says "Found New Hardware Embedded MP3/Video Player" |
| 05:20:41 | scorche | tell me when it mounts |
| 05:20:42 | TNTales | "Your new hardware is installed and ready to use" and the 16MB-Format drive has appeared |
| 05:20:46 | scorche | alright...now download this file and copy it into the drive: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/rhapsody/rhapsody-1.0.2.31.zip |
| 05:21:13 | advcomp2019 | but unzip too |
| 05:21:28 | scorche | oh...heh...of course :) |
| 05:21:29 | TNTales | ok, I will unzip. Should I put it in a specific directory first? |
| 05:21:32 | scorche | no |
| 05:21:42 | scorche | just the file directly onto the device (the unzipped file |
| 05:21:52 | scorche | then hit safely remove, then unplug the device |
| 05:22:01 | TNTales | ok. page timed out. |
| 05:22:02 | scorche | (after it says you can now remove..) |
| 05:22:13 | scorche | eh?...it works for me |
| 05:23:20 | TNTales | hmm. I can't get the site to respond. Is it on sourceforge? this site keeps timing out on me (Could be my computer) |
| 05:23:35 | alienbiker99 | works for me |
| 05:23:44 | scorche | let me try hosting it... |
| 05:25:19 | TNTales | sorry, I've been neglecting replacing this computer as I rarely use it anymore except as a repository for media files. so it's only got a 40GB HDD and 512 MB of ram. I think it has a GeForce 4 (PCI) and the processor is an amazing 1.4 GHz |
| 05:25:39 | scorche | that shouldnt matter |
| 05:26:30 | TNTales | I have a zip file here that has that same name |
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