| 00:00:18 | preglow | what's the framerate on a g5? |
| 00:00:28 | preglow | it's quite snappy at 50++ on nano |
| 00:01:38 | linuxstb | I've only tried on the gigabeat - around 90-100fps |
| 00:01:59 | Nico_P | I think it's around 20 fps on the G5 |
| 00:02:06 | preglow | linuxstb: you have both gigabeat f and s? :> |
| 00:02:17 | linuxstb | Yes ;) |
| 00:02:19 | preglow | Nico_P: looks like it can be optimized more |
| 00:02:43 | linuxstb | Enough for the Archos with greyscale lib? ;) |
| 00:02:54 | Nico_P | preglow: yeah, jott was syaing that too... I think the original writer has a few improvements in store |
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| 00:03:04 | preglow | but anyway, this rocks firmly |
| 00:03:19 | preglow | this is definitely svn material |
| 00:04:21 | scorche|w | next thing we know, he is going to be getting an iphone... ;) |
| 00:05:39 | preglow | it is kinda glitchy, though |
| 00:05:43 | preglow | it sometimes gives me black albums |
| 00:05:49 | preglow | and i'm certain i don't have the actual one in here :) |
| 00:05:58 | Nico_P | yeah there is still room for imrpvements |
| 00:06:31 | * | preglow wonders how the textures would look with bilinear filtering... |
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| 00:08:13 | |NSA| | hmm, well i just tried deleting the currently playing file on my sansa, and the thing froze and seems dead now |
| 00:08:17 | |NSA| | what should i do? |
| 00:08:37 | pradin | Any reason why I'm getting "Changes Not Saved" error in the text_editor? |
| 00:09:09 | linuxstb | |NSA|: Hold POWER for about 10-15 seconds |
| 00:09:40 | |NSA| | yay |
| 00:09:49 | |NSA| | worked thanks |
| 00:11:35 | |NSA| | is there a bug number somewhere about getting usb mass storage device drivers working? |
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| 00:19:45 | webguest48 | hi. i have some general questions regarding rockbox and a specific question regarding identifying sansa e280 as v1 or v2. could I ask them here? |
| 00:20:40 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, what firmware version do you have |
| 00:20:49 | pixelma | don't ask to ask, just ask (as long as it has something to do with Rockbox ;) |
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| 00:21:57 | webguest48 | okay. am I correct in interpreting that I can play flac truly gapless on a rockboxed sansa e280? |
| 00:23:55 | bertrik | I have not much experience with the flac codec, but generally: yes does gapless playback |
| 00:23:59 | webguest48 | advcomp2019: I haven't got the player yet, so I don't have any firmware at all :) |
| 00:24:12 | webguest48 | nice |
| 00:24:26 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, o ok |
| 00:24:56 | webguest48 | do you know how to identify a sansa e280 v1 from a e280 v2 (as rockbox is supported on v1 and not on v2)? |
| 00:25:13 | bertrik | rockbox has a buffering mechanism which decodes the next track to be played in advance |
| 00:25:31 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, the easiest way is with the firmware |
| 00:25:57 | webguest48 | I am looking to buy from a webshop and their e280 has a manufacturer id SDMX4-8192-E70. is this v1 or v2? |
| 00:26:05 | n1s | or looknig for "v2" printed on the back... |
| 00:26:27 | webguest48 | okay. so I need to buy the player before I know? |
| 00:26:48 | scorche|w | you cna check if the packaging says "audible support" or not |
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| 00:27:06 | n1s | webguest48: if it claims to support "audible" drm audio books it's a v2 |
| 00:27:21 | webguest48 | okay. let me see |
| 00:27:29 | manlight | how do you boot the stock fimware on a sansa e260 |
| 00:27:40 | bertrik | hold left while booting |
| 00:27:58 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, is it new or refurbished |
| 00:27:58 | bertrik | or plugin USB while it is off |
| 00:28:05 | manlight | thanks |
| 00:30:47 | manlight | when i start rockbox and go to plugins the viewer folder dooesnt show up. Why? |
| 00:30:56 | manlight | on a sansa e260 |
| 00:31:05 | webguest48 | advcomp2019: I'm not sure what you mean. I haven't bought it yet :) |
| 00:31:16 | bertrik | viewer folder? |
| 00:31:25 | n1s | manlight: you are not supposed to launch the vieweres, read the manual |
| 00:31:34 | manlight | what? |
| 00:31:39 | n1s | manual |
| 00:31:42 | manlight | i want to use rockboy |
| 00:32:25 | manlight | in the manual it shows rockboy under viewers |
| 00:32:51 | manlight | wait |
| 00:32:52 | n1s | yes and it tells you how to play a rom too |
| 00:33:01 | manlight | alright i missed it |
| 00:33:14 | manlight | it starts it when u select it |
| 00:34:21 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, some places have new e200s and some place have refurbished e200s.. sometimes you can find that on the page too |
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| 00:35:40 | webguest48 | advcomp2019: any idea about how new the v2 is? |
| 00:37:17 | bobrules | what's next on the rockbox agenda? |
| 00:37:41 | scorche|w | rockbox doesnt have an agenda |
| 00:37:57 | bobrules | I know |
| 00:38:22 | scorche|w | if you know rockbox doesnt have one, then why ask what is next on the nonexistent object? |
| 00:38:44 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, not really but they are starting to pop out on the market tho.. most refurbished e200s as far as we seen are the v1 so far |
| 00:40:18 | |NSA| | i cant get the dict plugin to detect the dictionaries |
| 00:41:12 | |NSA| | desc and index files into .rockbox? |
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| 00:42:24 | Workaphobi1 | I find the comment above plugin_api in plugin.h a little confusing. It says to preserve backwards compatibility, add new plugin functions to the end of the structure. Why is the order in the struct important? Won't any dependent code get recompiled? |
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| 00:42:40 | Workaphobi1 | gah.. darn ghosting. |
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| 00:43:52 | n1s | Workaphobi1: it's meant to provide backwards compatibility with compiled binary plugins |
| 00:45:28 | Workaphobi1 | but a lot of the functions there are in order - were they all just added at the same time, or are they periodically regrouped, breaking compatibility? |
| 00:48:44 | linuxstb | The latter. |
| 00:49:53 | Workaphobi1 | Ah, ok. |
| 00:50:47 | webguest48 | advcomp2019: thank you! I'll look around for a v1 of the product. If I find it I'll get it, install Rockbox and finally enjoy my flacs at gapless playback. :) |
| 00:51:45 | |NSA| | where can i et dictionary fikes for the dict plugin and where should i put them? |
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| 01:04:36 | webguest48 | oh. one last question: will a sansa e200 work as a usb mass storage device (ie. i don't have to install any specific software to get my files onto the device: just drag'n'drop the flac files onto the device once it is hooked up to a usb port)? |
| 01:05:08 | linuxstb | Yes |
| 01:05:39 | jott | for which parts of the tagcache api, it is reasonable, to make them accessible in the plugin api? i currently only use ..._search, _search_set_uniqbuf, _get_next and _search_finished, but made every method in tagcache.h "public" (which seems too much to me) |
| 01:07:16 | linuxstb | The general principle is to add functions to the plugin api as and when they're used by plugins. |
| 01:07:22 | webguest48 | linuxstb: was that "yes" relating to my question about sansa e200 acting as a usb mass storage device? |
| 01:07:36 | linuxstb | webguest48: Yes. |
| 01:08:21 | webguest48 | linuxstb: thanks :) |
| 01:08:28 | |NSA| | webguest48: you need to reboot into the original firmware though i think |
| 01:09:01 | jott | linuxstb: so just add those 4 methods i use to it? |
| 01:09:18 | linuxstb | jott: Yes. |
| 01:09:18 | webguest48 | advcomp2019: thank you for your kind assitance! |
| 01:09:24 | jott | thanks |
| 01:09:33 | webguest48 | |NSA|: ok. thanks! :) |
| 01:09:48 | advcomp2019 | webguest48, your welcome |
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| 01:30:05 | preglow | there are quite a few decibel formatters in rockbox... |
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| 01:37:46 | Workaphobi1 | Any chance the current svn's broken? Or is it more likely my problem? |
| 01:38:17 | preglow | what problem? |
| 01:38:41 | Workaphobi1 | something related to compiling solitaire |
| 01:38:51 | Workaphobi1 | for the simulator |
| 01:39:44 | preglow | probably your problem, i can compile it fine |
| 01:39:53 | Workaphobi1 | ok, thanks. |
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| 01:53:05 | manlight | when ever i put files onto my e 260 and start rockbox they dont show up. Can anyone help |
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| 01:53:56 | |NSA| | manlight: where do youput them? |
| 01:54:08 | manlight | into the video folder |
| 01:54:12 | manlight | and on the root |
| 01:54:46 | preglow | what kind of files? |
| 01:54:50 | pixelma | video files? What format are those? |
| 01:55:02 | manlight | an .mpg and a gbc |
| 01:55:32 | psycho_maniac | maybe you just have only "music" to show in your directories? |
| 01:55:47 | pixelma | what is your "show files" option set to? |
| 01:56:15 | manlight | let me check |
| 01:56:39 | psycho_maniac | supported |
| 01:57:35 | manlight | thanks |
| 01:57:40 | manlight | it works now |
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| 01:58:45 | psycho_maniac | whoops. i thought manlight asked that question pixelma |
| 01:59:22 | Workaphobi1 | I'm using rb->splash, which is supposed to use printf formatting, and am somehow getting a letter for %i and %d |
| 01:59:51 | Workaphobi1 | "Gotoline: %d" as a format string turns into "Gotoline i" when displayed |
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| 02:00:11 | preglow | Workaphobi1: are you sure that wasn't %i? |
| 02:00:15 | preglow | rockbox doesn't do %i, just %d |
| 02:00:57 | Workaphobi1 | then I suspect I didn't rebuild between them right. |
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| 02:01:09 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | Hey.. can someone help me ?? |
| 02:01:16 | preglow | ask |
| 02:01:22 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | I just installed rockbox on my ipod nano |
| 02:01:27 | preglow | congrats |
| 02:01:31 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | ty |
| 02:01:36 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | got the games working |
| 02:01:39 | manlight | i just installed today too. |
| 02:01:42 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | doom.. |
| 02:01:50 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | but i cant figure out how to get videos on there |
| 02:01:59 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | i did the .bat files to convert them |
| 02:02:04 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | but they dont show the video |
| 02:02:08 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | just sound |
| 02:02:19 | linuxstb | How did you encode them? |
| 02:02:38 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | i used.... the drag and drop into the vlc media player into the .bat file |
| 02:02:50 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | got a better way ? |
| 02:02:58 | linuxstb | Are you using the official Rockbox bootloader? |
| 02:03:03 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | yes |
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| 02:03:11 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | i put the rockbox bootloader on there 1st |
| 02:03:14 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | then rockbox |
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| 02:03:27 | linuxstb | Do the video files play on your PC? |
| 02:03:30 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | no |
| 02:03:37 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | after i convert them |
| 02:03:38 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | just the sound |
| 02:03:55 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | how do you convert them ? |
| 02:04:09 | psycho_maniac | so they DO NOT play on your computer OR your player? |
| 02:04:15 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | exactly |
| 02:04:18 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | correct |
| 02:04:22 | linuxstb | I don't use mpegplayer.... I've heard that winff works well though. |
| 02:04:32 | psycho_maniac | winff works great |
| 02:04:39 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | got a link for me for winff ? |
| 02:04:49 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | ill try it |
| 02:04:52 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
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| 02:05:39 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | it says that the mpegplayer comes with rockbox.. |
| 02:05:43 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | automatically |
| 02:05:58 | psycho_maniac | you are correct. |
| 02:06:00 | linuxstb | Yes, it does - that page describes how to encode videos. |
| 02:06:09 | linuxstb | (including a link to winff) |
| 02:06:25 | preglow | hrm, now that we have a text based config format, we have the additional bother that we can't invalidate settings when we change their format :/ |
| 02:07:04 | linuxstb | I've been thinking about that. You could change the name of the setting... |
| 02:08:24 | preglow | hmm |
| 02:08:38 | lemur | so rockbox is pretty much the best OS ever |
| 02:08:39 | preglow | i really want to fix the crossfeed settings being positive when they should be negative |
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| 02:08:45 | preglow | and get rid of a few db formatters in the process |
| 02:09:08 | preglow | but everyone will end up with completely wrong crossfeed settings and no warning |
| 02:09:14 | amiconn | preglow: Well, if the settings are range-checked, there should be no problem |
| 02:09:25 | preglow | amiconn: there is, all crossfeed settings end up at 0 db |
| 02:09:38 | preglow | while this is no biggie, it will be confusing for some people |
| 02:09:39 | amiconn | Out of range -> default |
| 02:09:54 | preglow | amiconn: really? i just did a test, all settings ended up at 0 db |
| 02:10:38 | markun | preglow: I use the defaults, so nothing should change, right? |
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| 02:10:44 | preglow | markun: correct |
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| 02:11:32 | * | preglow hates the big arm binaries... |
| 02:11:34 | amiconn | Then the settings are either not range-checked... or the range-check chooses the appropriate limit |
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| 02:12:12 | preglow | amiconn: the range checking happens for all settings, yes? |
| 02:12:17 | ^^^ADAM^^^ | or after i convert using winff.. where do i put the file... rite in the ipod home directory or do i make a new dir called movies or videos.. / |
| 02:12:18 | preglow | it's not implemented per setting? |
| 02:12:23 | amiconn | preglow: I don't know |
| 02:12:44 | amiconn | I said _if_ they are range checked, not _as_ they are range-checked |
| 02:12:56 | preglow | right, right |
| 02:13:11 | preglow | well, what do you think? should they be reset to default when out of bounds? |
| 02:13:13 | amiconn | For instance, backlight is not range checked other than for the low limit (in the backlight driver) |
| 02:13:16 | preglow | doesn't sound too silly to me |
| 02:14:04 | amiconn | So you can set a longer timeout than the GUI allows via .cfg file, but if you then enter the setting in the GUI, it's limited to the upper limit |
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| 02:16:27 | amiconn | It seems the settings GUI does range-checking for numeric settings, applying clamping instead of reverting to default |
| 02:16:52 | preglow | well, what is the more logical behaviour? |
| 02:16:54 | amiconn | But loading the .cfg does no range-checking itself |
| 02:16:58 | preglow | ok |
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| 02:17:43 | preglow | but does the settings stuff go through the layer that clamps at all, or does config loading call the set_ functions directly? |
| 02:17:45 | * | amiconn thinks a little more consistent behaviour would be good |
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| 02:18:35 | amiconn | The latter. |
| 02:19:27 | preglow | ouch |
| 02:19:37 | preglow | so it calls the crossfeed setters with a big positive gain |
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| 02:19:41 | preglow | well, they seem to handle it ok... |
| 02:19:51 | preglow | sounds crap, but doesn't explode |
| 02:20:31 | amiconn | The crossfeed set_ functions don't check themselves? |
| 02:21:23 | preglow | i saw no reason for them to check |
| 02:21:41 | preglow | i knew gui settings clipped, and i assumed settings loading did too |
| 02:21:45 | preglow | at the time it was binary anyway |
| 02:22:25 | amiconn | Atm it does not, and it also didn't in binsettings time iirc |
| 02:22:37 | preglow | no, but then you couldn't go very far out of range |
| 02:22:46 | preglow | and in crossfeeds case, you could only go more negative, and that didn't matter |
| 02:23:13 | amiconn | Perhaps it would be good if cfg loading would clamp too |
| 02:23:22 | preglow | i kinda of think it should |
| 02:23:39 | preglow | it would save us from having to clamp all over the place |
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| 02:24:28 | preglow | seems i save 200 bytes on arm from removing two formatters |
| 02:24:49 | amiconn | It depends. Calling the set_* functions directly from a plugin could still put them out of range |
| 02:25:14 | amiconn | Not very likely for crossfeed settings though |
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| 02:28:04 | preglow | well, screw it, i think i'll just commit stuf with a warning that it'll break crossfeed settings |
| 02:28:46 | amiconn | Meh. This PP5002 crash bug is annoying :( |
| 02:28:52 | preglow | i can imagine |
| 02:29:23 | * | amiconn now keeps a last-known-good zip for 1st/2nd Gen |
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| 02:30:02 | amiconn | Currntly this is r15871 |
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| 02:32:59 | preglow | meh |
| 02:33:05 | preglow | we need to be able to voice fractional numbers |
| 02:33:22 | preglow | there are tons of decibel values around that need it |
| 02:33:36 | preglow | then again, i personally don't really see the value in being able to adjust in half decibels |
| 02:33:45 | preglow | but some other people probably do |
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| 02:52:02 | preglow | that certainly is red |
| 02:53:16 | preglow | what the HELL ? |
| 02:54:44 | preglow | 262k points! \o/ |
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| 02:55:37 | berlinbullet | hello all |
| 02:55:44 | XavierGr | grats to preglow |
| 02:56:04 | XavierGr | too bad that most are asleep and we can't celebreate for it :P |
| 02:56:23 | XavierGr | what's the highest score again? |
| 02:56:41 | preglow | i don't know, but this must be some kind of record :) |
| 02:57:07 | preglow | i don't really understand how lang.h got involved, though |
| 02:57:23 | berlinbullet | i had a quick question regarding a theme not loading right on a gigabeat.. if anyone happens to know about that |
| 02:57:32 | berlinbullet | sorry to interupt :S |
| 02:57:56 | preglow | how not loading right? |
| 02:58:45 | berlinbullet | Well, its the jsunu theme.. and instead of the nice now playing screen, everything crams to the top of the screen and just shows two bars with my left/right audio levels displayin |
| 02:59:04 | preglow | you're using an offical rockbox build? |
| 02:59:09 | berlinbullet | yup |
| 02:59:12 | preglow | hmm |
| 02:59:14 | preglow | *shrug* |
| 02:59:17 | preglow | don't know too much about themes |
| 02:59:45 | berlinbullet | yeah, i wasnt too sure either... that and Slant both do the same thing for the now playing |
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| 03:01:45 | preglow | i wonder why the hell this shit doesn't happen here |
| 03:03:24 | preglow | pfew, back to normal |
| 03:03:25 | preglow | bedtime |
| 03:04:34 | |NSA| | how do i refresh the database |
| 03:08:38 | berlinbullet | you should be able to refresh it by going to database in settings |
| 03:09:41 | |NSA| | found it thanks. i think there should be a option for it within the database menu though. /me goes to see if there is a bug about that |
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| 03:42:40 | AK-47 | hello |
| 03:43:14 | psycho_maniac | hi |
| 03:43:18 | AK-47 | Would java support be good for rockbox? |
| 03:44:53 | Mouser_X | Not really. |
| 03:45:28 | Mouser_X | You could do it if you wanted, but I don't know how well it would be handled on low-powered CPUs. |
| 03:45:58 | AK-47 | what about flash support? |
| 03:46:10 | psycho_maniac | why do you want java and flash |
| 03:46:19 | Mouser_X | Indeed. |
| 03:46:25 | AK-47 | to make it....better? |
| 03:46:45 | AK-47 | nvm |
| 03:47:11 | psycho_maniac | how would java or flash make it better? |
| 03:47:51 | AK-47 | You could have more people develop apps for it. |
| 03:48:20 | psycho_maniac | why not just have them learn c |
| 03:48:38 | |NSA| | "lets run counterstrike and half life on an mp3 player with a 2 in screen" |
| 03:49:02 | psycho_maniac | that would look great not |
| 03:49:07 | AK-47 | Good idea.... |
| 03:49:14 | Mouser_X | Oooh! Finally! My prayers would be answered! |
| 03:49:36 | Mouser_X | Would it have multiplayer and network support? |
| 03:49:42 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 03:49:55 | AK-47 | Use a usb to usb cable for that! |
| 03:49:58 | |NSA| | oh, and while we are at it, lets add photoshop and a web server |
| 03:50:08 | AK-47 | Yay! Really? |
| 03:50:39 | AK-47 | Use apache in it. |
| 03:51:06 | psycho_maniac | why not also make it a universal remote control |
| 03:51:13 | AK-47 | Or a usb mic! |
| 03:51:45 | Mouser_X | Problem with USB stuff, is that you need a device that can do USB hosting. |
| 03:51:54 | |NSA| | i wish it did have usb support so i dont have to keep rebotting it to browse files |
| 03:52:02 | Mouser_X | Most of the Rockbox targets are not capable of this, if I'm not mistaken. |
| 03:52:11 | AK-47 | Mine does :0 |
| 03:52:20 | AK-47 | My rockbox dualboots with the OF |
| 03:52:29 | AK-47 | with sansapatcher |
| 03:52:43 | |NSA| | yeah, but you have to reboot it to the OF, i mean usb support directly from RB |
| 03:52:53 | AK-47 | I see.... |
| 03:52:59 | Mouser_X | USB support != USB host |
| 03:53:17 | AK-47 | You should put linux on rockbox to make apache work! |
| 03:53:18 | Mouser_X | (If you were talking to me.) |
| 03:54:12 | AK-47 | YOU FORGOT THE ; !!!" USB_support != USB_host"; |
| 03:55:06 | AK-47 | Have they integrated the demos as screensavers yet? |
| 03:55:15 | psycho_maniac | no |
| 03:57:51 | |NSA| | whats the bug number for the usb thing o you dont have to reboot into the OF? |
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| 04:11:15 | corey | i'm having trouble compiling rockbox using ubuntu. it says : ../tools/configure: 1635: arm-elf-gcc: not found../tools/configure: 1639: arm-elf-ld: not foundWARNING: The compiler you must use (arm-elf-gcc) is not in your path!WARNING: this may cause your build to fail since we cannot do theWARNING: checks we want now. |
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| 04:12:28 | corey | can anyone help? |
| 04:12:32 | B|utEngel | i have a 30gb ipod and when running rockbox I would like to know how to turn the ipod off and boot into the apple OS ? |
| 04:13:07 | B|utEngel | rockbox bootloader is installed |
| 04:14:17 | bobrules | press left while powering on? |
| 04:14:43 | bobrules | hold left* f it's the same for every player |
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| 04:18:30 | corey | how do i get rockbox to find arm-elf-* ? |
| 04:19:44 | B|utEngel | now my ipod will not power on :() |
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| 04:20:09 | B|utEngel | holds play button to no end |
| 04:20:23 | psycho_maniac | try menu+select |
| 04:20:29 | psycho_maniac | hold it for a couple seconds |
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| 04:21:11 | B|utEngel | worked |
| 04:21:15 | B|utEngel | ;;p |
| 04:21:17 | B|utEngel | ty |
| 04:23:45 | B|utEngel | is ther a rockbox media player driver for windows ? cuzz windows wants a driver |
| 04:25:33 | psycho_maniac | just ignore that forever |
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| 04:28:18 | sqgl_Sydney | Anyone here can vouch for audio quality on thomson mp3 players? (am thinking to buy one) |
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| 04:28:34 | sqgl_Sydney | i know thomson developed mp3 standard with Frauhoffer, and they make decoder chips for the industry |
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| 04:29:14 | psycho_maniac | this does not seem like a rockbox related question. non rockbox related questions can be asked at #rockbox-community |
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| 04:31:26 | corey | can anyone help compile? |
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| 04:32:53 | psycho_maniac | what is wrong corey? |
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| 04:33:59 | corey | when i run configure it says it cant find arm-elf |
| 04:34:04 | sqgl_Sydney | ok psycho_maniac thanks. i'll got to community, |
| 04:34:43 | corey | i did install it |
| 04:35:11 | psycho_maniac | the only way i got around that problem was i had to redownload the source :S |
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| 04:37:02 | corey | i have to redownload the rockbox source? or install everything again? |
| 04:37:56 | psycho_maniac | just the source. do you have vmware? |
| 04:38:00 | Llorean | corey: Did you also add it to your path? |
| 04:38:18 | Llorean | Specifically if you type "arm-elf-gcc −−version" do you get a version or do you get a command not found type message? |
| 04:39:09 | corey | i get a command not found message |
| 04:39:18 | corey | how do I add it to my path? |
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| 04:41:09 | Llorean | That depends entirely on what linux distro you're using, etc. Something you should be able to google up instructions for fairly easily |
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| 04:53:19 | corey | i can find no help adding to the path using ubuntu |
| 04:54:36 | Llorean | corey: I just googled "add to path ubuntu" and got results that are relevant... |
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| 05:04:05 | psycho_maniac | how does a theme get into the current rockbox builds? |
| 05:07:36 | Llorean | There used to be a submission process |
| 05:07:56 | psycho_maniac | man if there is some documents on how they get put in the current builds. imagine if a lot of people did this. we would really have to have a "lite" version of rockbox then |
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| 05:08:51 | Llorean | I'd imagine themes would be available as a separate, daily built package much like voices. |
| 05:10:09 | psycho_maniac | that is a feature request on the wiki. been there for a long time. |
| 05:11:17 | Llorean | The lite version of Rockbox? I thought that'd be rejected long ago |
| 05:12:17 | psycho_maniac | hmmm. maybe just the wiki is old? |
| 05:12:37 | psycho_maniac | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseTodo#Other_goals_for_release |
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| 05:13:30 | Llorean | psycho_maniac: Anyone can edit the wiki. I wouldn't be surprised if the person who added that is not someone who actually gets to determine release goals |
| 05:14:04 | psycho_maniac | do you know why the lite versions or rockbox was rejected? |
| 05:15:24 | Llorean | Because it's silly? |
| 05:15:51 | Llorean | We already strip out the fonts, and only include a few bare WPSes which could also readily be stripped out if we start providing a lot |
| 05:15:57 | Llorean | Everything else needs to be "up to date" to work |
| 05:16:28 | Llorean | What exactly would a "lite" version be theN? |
| 05:16:58 | psycho_maniac | im not sure. im actually trying to see how much smaller my rockbox build would be without the thems in it |
| 05:18:07 | psycho_maniac | although the thing i do is i have zip preview and i tell it not to download the themes and wps folders. how cool |
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| 05:55:37 | Mouser_X | I didn't look excessively thoroughly, but I couldn't find this in the manual. When I plug a USB cable into my Gigabeat, how to I stop it from going into USB mode? I want to charge it, while still using Rockbox. |
| 05:55:47 | * | Mouser_X shouldn't be asking this... |
| 05:56:03 | Mouser_X | (I've just never had the need to use the feature before.) |
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| 05:59:11 | Llorean | Hold Menu, iirc |
| 05:59:21 | Mouser_X | Thanks. |
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| 06:00:10 | psycho_maniac | i should of known that. i remember recently reading a patch that switched this function |
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| 06:04:16 | Mouser_X | Yay. Works. Thanks. I was reading a book (as a TXT) on my Gigabeat when it shut down... |
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| 06:07:45 | antixogh | does any one know any thing about the sansa e2x0 v2 series? aside from not being supported by rockbox. |
| 06:08:12 | Llorean | I know things about it. |
| 06:08:23 | Llorean | But obviously until you start asking questions, we can't tell you if we know the answers to any of them |
| 06:08:30 | Llorean | Or should I spurt out random facts and hope they're the right ones? |
| 06:08:57 | antixogh | I would like to mount the "hidden" partiton |
| 06:09:37 | Llorean | Does the hidden partition show up anywhere, first? For example, on the e200R it can't be accessed from the PC side |
| 06:10:13 | psycho_maniac | is there any work around to having a larger battery in the gigabeat? |
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| 06:10:43 | Llorean | psycho_maniac: Just the usual "put a bigger one in"... |
| 06:11:27 | psycho_maniac | no no sorry i wasnt a specific. i ment inside rockbox. the time remaining is probably off. |
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| 06:11:44 | antixogh | I don't really know much of anything about the e2x0 v2, other than I have a v1 and sansa rma'ed me a e260 v2 |
| 06:12:00 | Mouser_X | I've never payed attention to the "time remaining," ever... |
| 06:12:10 | Llorean | psycho_maniac: Well I mean, you're not looking for a workaround then. You need to calibrate it, and add a setting for your higher capacity battery. |
| 06:13:09 | psycho_maniac | so i couldnt just increase the "battery capacity" ? |
| 06:13:38 | Llorean | You can always just set it to some arbitrary number that makes it estimate a time remaining that is near what you get. |
| 06:14:16 | psycho_maniac | what did you mean when you said i need to colibrate it? |
| 06:15:53 | Llorean | I don't know how it's done properly. It require a full battery bench log to create some sort of voltage curve. |
| 06:16:38 | psycho_maniac | that is what im doing now :) battery bench |
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| 07:50:01 | raulh | is trhere any other games u can add to rockbox? |
| 07:50:04 | raulh | like diffrent roms |
| 07:51:04 | Llorean | It plays any Gameboy and Gameboy color ROMs. Homebrew ones are all over the place. |
| 07:52:39 | raulh | i also noticed it like EATS the battery on a nano is this only to me or over all? |
| 07:52:55 | Llorean | Yes, battery life is bad on all Portalplayer targets. |
| 07:53:01 | Llorean | And of course if you're playing games, it's much, much worse |
| 07:53:02 | Soap | the nano should get 70-75% of Apple runtime when running Rockbox |
| 07:53:27 | Soap | thus 10 or 10.5 hours on a brand new battery. |
| 07:53:45 | raulh | wow.. so it destroys the battery 0_O??? |
| 07:53:52 | Llorean | No, it doesn't destroy the battery. |
| 07:54:01 | Soap | (and ditto the games (backlight) issue, which isn't Rockbox, but your useage pattern) |
| 07:54:06 | Llorean | It just uses more power right now, there's nothing inherently damaging in that fact. |
| 07:56:28 | raulh | k thnx have good night :) |
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| 09:20:53 | pixelma | is this a new record in the build table? At least a nice score... ;) |
| 09:22:42 | scorche | not bad...i wish i remembered kkurbjun's high scorche |
| 09:24:34 | scorche | errr....high scorche |
| 09:24:36 | scorche | .... |
| 09:24:41 | scorche | score! |
| 09:24:45 | pixelma | hehe |
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| 09:47:20 | markun | preglow: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.soc/1321 |
| 09:58:28 | Llorean | markun: Do you know, can we set the volume on the left and right channels independently on the Gigabeat? |
| 09:58:58 | markun | yes, we can |
| 09:59:18 | Llorean | I think there may be a bug with the volume adjustment then |
| 09:59:32 | Llorean | Minor, but noticeable, installing a current build to test, since it's in 12/01 at least |
| 09:59:41 | markun | that's what the balance option does |
| 09:59:55 | Llorean | I didn't know if that was digital or analog |
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| 10:00:19 | markun | what kind of bug? |
| 10:00:36 | Llorean | Alright ,still there |
| 10:00:48 | Llorean | If you hold down vol up or down, sometimes only one channel changes while the other stays the same. |
| 10:01:12 | Llorean | Then, after a second or two, the other channel will pop to the same level as the one that was actually changing, sometimes with a slight click |
| 10:01:29 | markun | that's strange |
| 10:01:36 | Llorean | Very |
| 10:02:31 | Llorean | The left and right channel never stay at separate levels, as far as I can tell, but they'll be there temporarily while the volume is changing. And it's a significant amount different, as much as 10-15db can go by before they pop back into sync |
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| 10:27:46 | pixelma | any objections to closing this task http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6849 ? |
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| 10:29:54 | preglow | that's not the right way to fix it |
| 10:29:57 | preglow | so i'd say just close |
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| 10:36:03 | amiconn | Looks like several plugins are in need of proper speed regulation / frame drop on targets with variable cpu clock |
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| 10:37:11 | amiconn | Should probably be done for all targets, as music playback also influences available cpu power and hence drawing speed |
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| 10:39:07 | preglow | indeed |
| 10:39:16 | preglow | i'm surprised so few games do it correctly |
| 10:39:57 | preglow | especially considering how easy it is |
| 10:40:19 | amiconn | Well, for old ones it's understandable |
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| 10:40:36 | amiconn | On archos, cpu clock is fixed and load doesn't vary much either |
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| 10:41:11 | amiconn | The cpu hasn't got that much to do |
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| 10:53:32 | preglow | sure, but most of the games are "meant" for newer targets |
| 10:53:50 | preglow | so should have had this dealt with from the start |
| 10:54:45 | preglow | you can't develop games that handle like this on any ordinary computer and have them be playable, so i don't see why people do so for rockbox |
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| 12:18:53 | hanseatic | hello people |
| 12:21:51 | hanseatic | i v read about the patch(es) for dict and would like to try them out, however i don't know what to do with the dict.patch file |
| 12:24:34 | mud-rb | patch files are a list of changes to the source. you need to set it up so you can build rockbox from source, then apply the patch file you desire |
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| 12:25:17 | mud-rb | there're instructions in the wiki for how to set that all up, but it tends to take some work (especially if this is all new to you) |
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| 12:27:53 | hanseatic | thnx, i see |
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| 12:29:10 | hanseatic | so this is no simple plugin ready to be replaced (e.g. like a *.deb for debians) |
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| 12:31:28 | mud-rb | no, there's really not much you can do except set it up to build. someone else can do it for you, but it'd be rather difficult to find someone willing |
| 12:31:46 | hanseatic | i guess |
| 12:32:23 | hanseatic | but rb-plugins generally can be prepuilb binaries? |
| 12:32:59 | mud-rb | sorry? |
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| 12:37:44 | bertrik | hanseatic: you can install a 'custom' build. Several people make a binary available of their own build with their own selection of patches. If you have a problem with such a build you can't ask questions about it here though. |
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| 12:43:23 | hanseatic | i see |
| 12:43:27 | hanseatic | thnx |
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| 12:45:31 | hanseatic | comments about the alternativ dict plugin in terms of usability are appreciated, if someone has experiences in that |
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| 14:14:32 | J-23 | Hello! |
| 14:14:37 | Crash91 | hi |
| 14:14:47 | J-23 | Why m200 Sansas are unsupported? |
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| 14:19:06 | DarkStylist | beats me maybe no hackers care |
| 14:19:20 | DarkStylist | or sansa refuses to give hardware info |
| 14:19:27 | DarkStylist | or nobody likes em |
| 14:22:36 | hanseatic | hi i just extracted a rockbox.zip to my e280 's directory root, however without making/updating new folders. now i have tons of files in the root. is there any file that may not be deleted? |
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| 14:23:02 | hanseatic | or belongs there |
| 14:23:04 | hanseatic | ? |
| 14:24:24 | stripwax | hanseatic - when you extract rockbox.zip there should be no files in the root. delete them all and start over |
| 14:24:34 | hanseatic | k |
| 14:24:36 | hanseatic | thnx |
| 14:25:31 | stripwax | when you extract, your extracting program should use the right folders (or you need to tell it to make them). When it's extracted, if it worked correctly, you should just end up with a .rockbox folder in the root, and then everything in folders inside of that |
| 14:26:17 | stripwax | J-23 - maybe, none of the rockbox developers actually have a sansa m series? it's more or less impossible to support rockbox for a player that the developers don't actually have |
| 14:26:39 | J-23 | hmm... |
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| 14:27:51 | hanseatic | i understand, was just a misunderstanding using the gnome unzipper |
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| 15:23:05 | * | Domonoky will now start heading to the german rockbox bar night.. :-) |
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| 15:31:56 | Crash91 | =S how far has rockbox support progressed for nano 2nd gen? |
| 15:32:18 | Soap | nobody is working on it |
| 15:32:25 | Soap | so therefore progress has not progressed |
| 15:32:30 | Soap | :( |
| 15:32:58 | Crash91 | :( |
| 15:33:21 | Crash91 | my friend jsut asked me and i was about to tell him to ipodpatch when i noticed the "1st gen" |
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| 15:42:44 | hanseatic | hello |
| 15:42:47 | Crash91 | hi |
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| 15:45:23 | hanseatic | i messed something up while updating my .rockbox directory. now when i plug the sansa e280 in, nothing happens, it does not automount on the computer and does not appear to reboot into original FW. when i boot into org.FW the sansa mounts, but the .rockbox folder appears to be a write protected file system |
| 15:45:29 | hanseatic | what cfould i do? |
| 15:49:00 | Crash91 | ok |
| 15:49:08 | Crash91 | goto settings>usb mode |
| 15:49:14 | Crash91 | and make sure its MSC, not MTP |
| 15:50:04 | Crash91 | and as for the rockbox not rebooting, well thats known |
| 15:52:05 | hanseatic | it did not do this before i tried to unzip some "unofficial" build which is not supported here, i know |
| 15:52:18 | hanseatic | msc mode is active |
| 15:52:37 | * | Soap will now start heading to the german rockbox bar night.. :-) |
| 15:52:39 | Crash91 | which build would that be? |
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| 15:53:28 | Crash91 | bertrik: any idea? i dont use linux muc with my sansa |
| 15:53:48 | hanseatic | drwx−−−−−− 15 myself root 4096 2007-12-08 14:30 .rockbox |
| 15:54:10 | Crash91 | damn ohw the hell did than happen |
| 15:54:23 | Crash91 | copyuing files shouldnt do anything to permissions |
| 15:54:45 | Crash91 | have you tried chmod as su? (not sure itll help but no harm in trying) |
| 15:54:54 | bertrik | I don't have much linux experience with the sansa either |
| 15:55:16 | bertrik | how big is the partition you're seeing? and is it mounted read-write? |
| 15:55:49 | hanseatic | kugel.'s build |
| 15:55:51 | bertrik | does the rockbox bootloader work correctly? |
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| 15:56:32 | hanseatic | http://www.rockbox-lounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=1436&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
| 15:56:45 | hanseatic | the fat32 is mounted rw |
| 15:57:11 | hanseatic | /dev/sdb1 on /media/Sansa e280 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree) |
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| 15:59:26 | hanseatic | how would i know about the bootloader? |
| 15:59:31 | bertrik | then i have no idea how it could end up as read-only |
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| 16:00:10 | hanseatic | can i savely remove the .rockbox dir by rm -rf .rockbox ? |
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| 16:00:46 | bertrik | yes, even if you completely remove .rockbox you should still be able to boot into the original firmware |
| 16:00:51 | hanseatic | a chmod +w .rockbox has let the write protect icon disappear |
| 16:00:56 | hanseatic | k |
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| 16:02:06 | hanseatic | i do not understand why my OS sees the rockbox folder as a filesystem |
| 16:02:43 | hanseatic | a rm -rf .rockbox errored with could not remove * Read only FS |
| 16:04:04 | hanseatic | i also tried to uninstall rockbox with the rbutil as root and as normal user |
| 16:04:34 | hanseatic | is there a way to set the device to factory default? |
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| 16:04:58 | Crash91 | yes |
| 16:05:04 | Crash91 | recovery mode |
| 16:05:17 | Crash91 | tswitch on with hold switch and hold record |
| 16:05:39 | bertrik | hanseatic: the read-only part baffles me, could it actually be a zip file that your OS exposes in the UI as a read-only FS? |
| 16:06:03 | hanseatic | hmm... would be odd |
| 16:06:38 | bertrik | is your partition about 20 MB or is it several GB? |
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| 16:07:22 | hanseatic | i reswitched it on now, and it boots right away into the org.FW |
| 16:07:52 | hanseatic | i pressed record, but it also does this without pressing rec now |
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| 16:09:06 | hanseatic | ok, now i was able to delete .rockbox |
| 16:09:07 | Crash91 | hold switch. |
| 16:09:18 | hanseatic | i for some reason |
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| 16:10:16 | hanseatic | no, it did not, sry |
| 16:10:45 | hanseatic | just saw the error after i tried to unmount |
| 16:11:03 | hanseatic | would it help to hook it up on some windows mashine |
| 16:11:19 | hanseatic | ? |
| 16:12:14 | Crash91 | porb |
| 16:14:11 | hanseatic | well the bootloader seems to be gone now |
| 16:14:34 | hanseatic | at least rockbox boots into org.FW right away |
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| 16:16:12 | hanseatic | only thin is, i do have a folder called .Trash-myself |
| 16:16:12 | Casainho | hello :-) |
| 16:16:38 | hanseatic | and .rockbox is gone |
| 16:17:05 | hanseatic | so i could give it another try with rbutil |
| 16:17:16 | Casainho | I would like to talk with "scharkalvin"(nick from the forum) - anyone knows is contact? - thank you. |
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| 16:17:29 | hanseatic | is it possible that i am still in recovery mode? |
| 16:17:59 | bertrik | recovery mode only shows some text on the screen (saying "recovery mode" IIRC) |
| 16:18:07 | hanseatic | thnx |
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| 16:35:18 | hanseatic | i just reinstalled rockbox |
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| 16:36:40 | hanseatic | with current build |
| 16:37:07 | hanseatic | however, when i plug it in, it does not reboot into orgFW |
| 16:37:15 | hanseatic | what do i do wrong? |
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| 16:38:18 | hanseatic | and i need to hard-reset the e200 by holding down menu for 20 sec |
| 16:39:16 | Tuplanolla | hanseatic: hold the left button when plugging it in |
| 16:39:22 | Tuplanolla | dunno if it will help |
| 16:39:45 | Tuplanolla | otherwise hold left button when starting it up, then it'll start OF |
| 16:39:49 | Tuplanolla | then plug it in |
| 16:40:42 | hanseatic | thats how i boot into orgFW, but rb/e200 used to reboot into orgFG automatically when pluged in, and showed some usb plug on the screen for a moment |
| 16:41:04 | Tuplanolla | yeah, that's what my e280 does. |
| 16:41:15 | hanseatic | e280 here too |
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| 17:01:53 | hanseatic | i' ll boot windows |
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| 17:46:35 | hanseatic | hi |
| 17:46:40 | hanseatic | booted into windows |
| 17:48:22 | hanseatic | under linux i tried to delete the .rockbox folder, but it created only a .Trash-username folder |
| 17:48:50 | hanseatic | now i cannot remove the .Trash-username folder |
| 17:49:13 | hanseatic | under linux it tells me it cant because of a readonly filesystem |
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| 17:49:27 | hanseatic | the however the vfat is mounted rw |
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| 17:49:51 | hanseatic | under windows i cannot delete anything within .Trash-username |
| 17:50:33 | hanseatic | either it tells me the folder is not empty, or if i delete a file it does not disappear without any error |
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| 17:51:06 | hanseatic | the files and folders have the write-protect flag set, and it cannot be removed |
| 17:51:19 | percent | Any ideas when the Sansa e280v2 might be supported? If I wanted to, how could I shut my big mouth and help with development? |
| 17:53:00 | hanseatic | iirc there is some hardware issue that makes it impossible |
| 17:53:25 | percent | I know it's a completely new hardware. Oh, and by the way, I have access to an oscilloscope, which might help if the firmware is encrypted. |
| 17:53:35 | percent | What's the issue? |
| 17:54:29 | bertrik | not impossible, just a lot of work i think |
| 17:54:31 | hanseatic | don't remember, only stuff i think i saw googeling for e280 |
| 17:54:31 | Mouser_X | The issue is that it's all new hardware. For a port to be made, they need to know what the hardware is, and how to handle it. |
| 17:54:48 | bertrik | i read that some rockbox members already have a datasheet of the main controller |
| 17:54:49 | Mouser_X | The "how to handle it" is the hard part. |
| 17:55:15 | percent | Explain. |
| 17:55:43 | hanseatic | wikipedia reverse engeneering |
| 17:55:55 | hanseatic | engineering |
| 17:55:58 | hanseatic | or so |
| 17:56:06 | percent | I've done it before. |
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| 17:56:17 | Mouser_X | If it's entirely new hardware, they don't know how to handle it, how to run programs on it, how to use it, what it does, and why some things work, and others don't. |
| 17:56:46 | percent | I only know x86 asm, and I think I'm correct in assuming that the e280 has an ARM processor? |
| 17:57:25 | Mouser_X | I have no idea. |
| 17:57:30 | percent | someone write a C compiler for the sansa, i'm far too lazy |
| 17:57:34 | percent | and incapable. |
| 17:57:42 | krazykit | percent, gcc |
| 17:57:49 | bertrik | there already is a C compiler |
| 17:57:57 | krazykit | the sansas are ARM, both the v1 and the v2 |
| 17:58:08 | Mouser_X | You can look on the Rockbox wiki. There's a page for the e200v2. |
| 17:58:22 | Mouser_X | I think it says some info on the hardware. |
| 17:58:25 | hanseatic | i am totally stuck here |
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| 17:59:09 | hanseatic | one issue is, that i can't delete my trashbox, which should not be this complicated |
| 17:59:42 | krazykit | hanseatic, that sounds more like an OS issue, to be honest. try running fsck. |
| 17:59:51 | hanseatic | k |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:30 | Mouser_X | hanseatic: While not necessarily the desired method, is reformatting your player an option? Or is there data on there that you don't have somewhere else? |
| 18:01:19 | hanseatic | fsck.vfat /etc/sda1 ... |
| 18:01:34 | percent | wow, this stuff is really useful |
| 18:01:38 | krazykit | hanseatic, you may need to do that with root permissions |
| 18:01:39 | percent | thanks, Mouser_X |
| 18:01:49 | hanseatic | there are differences between boot sector and its backup |
| 18:02:18 | krazykit | hanseatic, what device are you using? |
| 18:02:25 | hanseatic | i chose to take no action |
| 18:02:39 | hanseatic | e280 (v1) |
| 18:02:52 | krazykit | if there are filesystem errors, let fsck fix them. you can't do anything that will permanently disable your device. |
| 18:03:02 | hanseatic | FAT differs but appears to be intact |
| 18:03:15 | hanseatic | use first fat or second? |
| 18:03:32 | krazykit | flip a coin. |
| 18:04:24 | krazykit | hanseatic, really, if there are FAT errors, i recommend going into recovery mode and making an empty file called "sansa.fmt". this will remake the partitions and you can then reload music to your player. |
| 18:04:29 | * | bertrik takes heads |
| 18:04:39 | hanseatic | i thought of using the recovery mode, but the sandisk recovery tool for windows said that would kill free subscription to some music download site, and the samples that where shipped with the device.... and i suppose also the warranty |
| 18:05:27 | krazykit | hanseatic, it shouldn't affect the warranty, and do you really want a subscription to some music site if you're planning on using rockbox? |
| 18:05:51 | hanseatic | i have no fat error experience |
| 18:07:49 | hanseatic | thing is, it's my girlfriends, and i have a couple of weeks until she needs the device for a long jouney, so i check out if rockbox is somehow useful for her (im getting a little of topic here, sorry ;o)) |
| 18:08:40 | hanseatic | however i still want to be able to get the thing into shipping conditions |
| 18:09:26 | krazykit | oh, certainly. it's actually very easy to get it back into factory condition. |
| 18:10:16 | hanseatic | how? |
| 18:10:42 | hanseatic | shipping as it was cond ;o) |
| 18:11:18 | krazykit | you go to recovery mode and drop in an mi4 |
| 18:11:45 | hanseatic | yeah, i came across mi4 |
| 18:11:52 | krazykit | well, factory condition minus the crummy music that's preloaded. |
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| 18:12:57 | hanseatic | well preloaded music could still be backuped and recopied |
| 18:14:19 | hanseatic | if this subscription to whatever data-collecting-commercial-download-site is gone it also looses reselling worth |
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| 18:15:16 | krazykit | hanseatic, the only subscription you lose is a trial. you can still buy a new one and it will work |
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| 18:19:13 | hanseatic | never mind this subscription, for recovery mode will i need the sansa connect device recovery? |
| 18:19:53 | krazykit | nope. you can put it into recovery mode as per the rockbox wiki's instructions |
| 18:20:11 | hanseatic | k... |
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| 18:22:39 | hanseatic | i may be dump, but i cant find the recovery page |
| 18:23:17 | krazykit | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick |
| 18:23:25 | hanseatic | thnx |
| 18:24:01 | krazykit | you want an mi4 for your device from here: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 18:24:32 | hanseatic | thnx again |
| 18:25:01 | hanseatic | i came across daniel haxx too |
| 18:26:02 | hanseatic | this approach seems dangerous, well |
| 18:26:27 | krazykit | like i said, nothing that cannot be fixed. |
| 18:27:47 | hanseatic | different issue does the american FW support I18N? |
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| 18:29:49 | hanseatic | and another one: after i installed RB the first time, auto-reboot into orgFW after plugging USB-connection in worked... i read about the issue, and that does not. is there any way/reason making it work? |
| 18:30:40 | krazykit | usb is a work in progress for Sansas and iPods right now |
| 18:30:41 | Mouser_X | hanseatic: When the Sansa is off, and I plugin the USB cable, it boots into the OF for me. |
| 18:31:45 | hanseatic | i used this workaround too... however auto-reboot DID work, and i wonder why |
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| 18:46:14 | hanseatic | the e280 swallowed the mi4 |
| 18:46:24 | Mouser_X | Yum! |
| 18:47:09 | hanseatic | so, i'll need to reboot to linux now for the rbutil |
| 18:47:14 | hanseatic | cu soon |
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| 18:52:28 | hanseatic | re |
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| 18:57:17 | zlp | what are the best video codec for playing on the rockbox? (ipod nano 1st gen) |
| 18:57:50 | zlp | I mean, vbr, fps, muxer... |
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| 18:59:56 | hanseatic | i used the SanDisk Sansa e200 (American) OK matzeregular BL1.02.15a" |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:09 | hanseatic | from http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 19:00:34 | hanseatic | however my e280 does not automount any mor |
| 19:00:43 | hanseatic | e |
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| 19:01:37 | hanseatic | sorry, now in msc mode |
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| 19:07:46 | hanseatic | i Still have a .Trash-username directory on my e280 |
| 19:08:21 | hanseatic | is there no way to really empty/format the e280? |
| 19:09:06 | Doomed_ | just got another e200, a 4gb this time =) |
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| 19:10:06 | Mouser_X | zlp: Check the PluginMpegplayer page. |
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| 19:11:12 | hanseatic | should i format the e280's main partition, and then "unbrick" it? |
| 19:11:31 | Mouser_X | hanseatic: It's what I'd do. |
| 19:11:39 | hanseatic | k... |
| 19:12:28 | hanseatic | are there any special options to the fat? e.g. windows format, or mkfs.vfat? |
| 19:12:41 | Mouser_X | No idea. |
| 19:12:59 | hanseatic | great... anyway, many thanx |
| 19:14:31 | hanseatic | rebooting windows, c ya |
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| 19:19:51 | hanseatic | re |
| 19:24:01 | hanseatic | btw the does sansa firmware update utility generate all the necessary folders and files on the main partition? |
| 19:24:42 | hanseatic | ... if they are not there |
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| 19:24:44 | hanseatic | ? |
| 19:25:35 | Mouser_X | I would assume so, but I have no idea. |
| 19:25:43 | hanseatic | k... |
| 19:26:10 | hanseatic | im backupping anyway |
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| 19:26:45 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, the sansa firmware will build what it needs |
| 19:27:17 | Crash91 | hanseatic: nonono, dont remove the tw files..that tell you not to remove them |
| 19:27:30 | Crash91 | version.txt and version.sdl i think |
| 19:27:33 | hanseatic | if it is not already there |
| 19:27:47 | Crash91 | version.sdk |
| 19:28:01 | Crash91 | dont remove that |
| 19:28:04 | hanseatic | where would these files be? |
| 19:28:17 | Crash91 | root |
| 19:29:08 | hanseatic | no, these files are not there |
| 19:29:17 | Crash91 | thats weird |
| 19:29:28 | Crash91 | try hshowing hidden files |
| 19:29:44 | hanseatic | sorry, there is a version.sdk and a version.txt |
| 19:30:04 | Crash91 | yeah |
| 19:30:11 | Crash91 | delete the text if you really want |
| 19:30:15 | Crash91 | but not the SDK |
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| 19:30:31 | Crash91 | if you see it with gedit or something it tells you not to remove |
| 19:30:47 | hanseatic | however thing is, i do not know how to delete some folder without formatting the partition |
| 19:30:54 | Crash91 | and it can be easily reproduced as its padded with blanks to make it exactly 512 bytes |
| 19:30:58 | Crash91 | cannot* |
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| 19:31:25 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, you could use the sansa.fmt file |
| 19:31:44 | Crash91 | advcomp2019: good idea |
| 19:32:21 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, it is lot safer |
| 19:32:45 | hanseatic | what would that be? >googleing< |
| 19:33:46 | Crash91 | IIRC, a blank text file renamed as sansa.fmt |
| 19:34:01 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, here is a little info.. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick#Sansa_Reformat |
| 19:34:28 | hanseatic | thnx |
| 19:34:47 | hanseatic | know that page... |
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| 19:37:46 | hanseatic | k... so it's just booting into recovery, copying *mi4, sansa.mft and what bin`? |
| 19:37:52 | hanseatic | *.bin? |
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| 19:38:32 | * | bluebrother greets from german Rockbox pub meeting :) |
| 19:38:46 | hanseatic | prösterchen |
| 19:39:00 | Crash91 | was? |
| 19:39:08 | hanseatic | cheers |
| 19:39:18 | Crash91 | oh :), |
| 19:39:22 | Crash91 | im learning atm |
| 19:39:57 | hanseatic | "prost" in the form called "verniedlichung" |
| 19:40:06 | hanseatic | a small cheers |
| 19:41:26 | Crash91 | ich verstehe nicht, es ist sehr komplitziert fur mich (excuse the bad spelling) |
| 19:41:55 | hanseatic | no prob... |
| 19:42:23 | * | joshin thinks that reads: "I am a jelly donut." |
| 19:43:06 | * | Crash91 wonders how joshin knew that |
| 19:43:58 | Crash91 | actually that would be ich bin ein jelly Berliner (from kennedy's speech) |
| 19:44:30 | Crash91 | hanseatic: wie kann mann "jelly"in deutsch sag? |
| 19:45:20 | hanseatic | jelly afaik means something between liquid and solid, right? |
| 19:45:28 | Crash91 | yes |
| 19:45:31 | hanseatic | like toothpaste? |
| 19:45:43 | Crash91 | well..like jelly...lol |
| 19:45:43 | joshin | Or my P4. |
| 19:45:51 | Crash91 | uhm..like yoghurt |
| 19:45:53 | hanseatic | we say gel |
| 19:45:59 | hanseatic | same word origin |
| 19:46:10 | Crash91 | joshin: get with the new and get a C2D :) |
| 19:46:46 | hanseatic | i ve just read through the unbrick page again, what *.bin file are they talking about? |
| 19:46:52 | joshin | Crash91: Its not my only computer. Actually, it is my 3.5 year old daughter's computer. I have a couple A64x2 desktops and a C2D laptop. |
| 19:46:55 | Crash91 | OF.bin? |
| 19:47:10 | Crash91 | hehe im on a C2D lappy right now |
| 19:47:17 | joshin | Anyhow, way off topic. /me returns to lurking |
| 19:47:31 | hanseatic | k... |
| 19:47:54 | * | Crash91 wonders why there are so many lurkers, therefore making it very few talkers |
| 19:47:56 | hanseatic | thought the original FW is the MI4 |
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| 19:48:08 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, i think you do not need the bin file |
| 19:48:25 | axionix | like /last |
| 19:49:28 | hanseatic | where would i get it from? sandisk.com? |
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| 19:50:32 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, what do you need.. the mi4 file? |
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| 19:50:47 | hanseatic | no, as you said the bin |
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| 19:51:45 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, you must have misread it.. i said "i think you do not need the bin file" |
| 19:52:31 | hanseatic | my prob is, i have a .trash-username folder i cannot delete, just like the rockbox folder. it was generated by by linux dist when i tried to delete .rockbox |
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| 19:57:16 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, i would try transferring the mi4 firmware and the sansa.fmt file and then unplug the cable |
| 19:58:04 | advcomp2019 | hanseatic, i have to leave to someone else might help you or you can wait for me to get back |
| 19:58:19 | hanseatic | thnx a lot anyway |
| 19:58:26 | hanseatic | l'll try so |
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| 20:07:02 | webguest84 | Hello all |
| 20:07:05 | webguest84 | question |
| 20:07:16 | | Quit bluebrother ("leaving") |
| 20:07:19 | Crash91 | fire |
| 20:07:20 | webguest84 | IS there a way to make ROCKBOX the DEFAULT firmware? |
| 20:07:22 | | Quit barrywardell () |
| 20:07:31 | webguest84 | Rather than have the ipod one as it? |
| 20:07:36 | Crash91 | nope |
| 20:07:49 | webguest84 | No way at all? |
| 20:07:56 | Mouser_X | Doesn't it boot into Rockbox by default already? |
| 20:07:56 | Crash91 | nope |
| 20:07:58 | webguest84 | It can't be impossible |
| 20:08:03 | hanseatic | formatting with sansa.mft and without the OF.bin worked |
| 20:08:07 | PaulJam | Isn't it already the default on the suppoted devices? |
| 20:08:08 | webguest84 | Exactly I want it to boot into the apple one |
| 20:08:12 | Crash91 | he means to obliterate apple completely i think |
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| 20:08:24 | Crash91 | wait a sec |
| 20:08:32 | PaulJam | i think this is possible too |
| 20:08:35 | Crash91 | you just said that you want to make it the default |
| 20:08:36 | Crash91 | and it is |
| 20:08:45 | Mouser_X | Oh, then no. It boots into Rockbox by default. If you want to boot to Apple OS, you need to use the button combo. |
| 20:08:47 | webguest84 | Oops |
| 20:08:59 | webguest84 | Yes I want it to boot intall apple normally |
| 20:09:05 | webguest84 | then when i press button combo into rockbox |
| 20:09:22 | webguest84 | no impossible? |
| 20:09:30 | Crash91 | restart (select+menu) and then flick the hold switch while booting |
| 20:09:33 | Crash91 | not impossible |
| 20:09:45 | Crash91 | you will need to compile your own bootloader |
| 20:09:51 | webguest84 | :| |
| 20:09:56 | webguest84 | I see |
| 20:10:31 | Crash91 | unless you find on thats been precompiled and you can donwload the binary and run it |
| 20:10:46 | webguest84 | I see |
| 20:10:51 | thouters | as there are no formal releases, is there someplace I (the user) can get a good idea of what current developments are, 'Changelog' style? |
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| 20:11:49 | spastic_teapot | I've got a Sandisk C240 mp3 player, of the C200 series, which seems to be pretty similar to the E200 series. |
| 20:11:53 | webguest84 | Mabye I could ask on the forums for some help |
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| 20:12:03 | spastic_teapot | Do I need to use Rockbox on it if I want to be able to, say, import playlists? |
| 20:12:10 | spastic_teapot | And how well does Roxbox play with Exaile? |
| 20:12:23 | PaulJam | thouters: see the MajorChanges wiki page. |
| 20:12:24 | webguest84 | ..? |
| 20:12:38 | thouters | PaulJam: thank you |
| 20:12:43 | Crash91 | webguest84: try |
| 20:12:53 | bertrik | thouters: there's a MajorChanges entry on the wiki, and a log of the last 10 changes (or so)in subversion and that's it I think |
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| 20:19:32 | Crash91 | bye everyone |
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| 20:21:19 | spastic_teapot | Anyone here? |
| 20:23:05 | Mouser_X | spastic_teapot: There's *always* someone here. |
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| 20:23:32 | spastic_teapot | Anyone here willing to help me? :) |
| 20:23:38 | spastic_teapot | That's likely a more useful question. |
| 20:24:51 | Mouser_X | No, a more useful question would be one that actually tells us what the problem/question is. |
| 20:26:28 | spastic_teapot | Heh. |
| 20:26:36 | spastic_teapot | I've got a Sandisk C240 mp3 player, of the C200 series, which seems to be pretty similar to the E200 series. |
| 20:26:40 | spastic_teapot | Do I need to use Rockbox on it if I want to be able to, say, import playlists? |
| 20:26:50 | spastic_teapot | Please do not tell me "Organize them by genre". |
| 20:26:58 | spastic_teapot | That's like asking for sushi, and getting Lutafisk. |
| 20:28:26 | spastic_teapot | Also, how do I tell if I've got the V1 or V2 of the C200 series? |
| 20:28:43 | spastic_teapot | I'm thinking I may need to just load up Rockbox. |
| 20:28:58 | PaulJam | I don't understand the question, what do you mean by "import playlists"? |
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| 20:30:06 | spastic_teapot | Well, I have the playlist "Bad pop songs of the late 90's" in Exaile. |
| 20:31:01 | spastic_teapot | I'd like to be able to download the playlist, and the songs it references, to my C240 so that I might later select said playlist and hear the songs, rather than selecting them one by one. |
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| 20:33:07 | PaulJam | rockbox supports m3u and m3u8 playlists and as long as the paths in the playlist point to the files on the player i don't see a problem. maybe tha chapter in the manual about "working with playlists" has some anwers for you. |
| 20:33:20 | vmx | hi |
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| 20:34:57 | spastic_teapot | I presume I'm shafted if I want to keep the stock firmware. |
| 20:35:13 | vmx | i just bought a sansa e250. i'd like to know if it's a v1 or v2. the wiki page says there will be a "v2" if it is one. where exactly? would it say "model: e250v2" instead of "model: e250"? |
| 20:36:42 | PaulJam | vmx: on the back of the device |
| 20:37:29 | PaulJam | vmx: does the package mention audible support? |
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| 20:38:56 | vmx | no it doesn't mention audible. but i'm anxious that i oversight it |
| 20:39:19 | vmx | on the bacl there's only a "model: e250" without v2. so it is probably a v1 |
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| 20:40:41 | spastic_teapot | I have a simlar question, except for my C-series player. |
| 20:40:43 | spastic_teapot | Also, what happens if you DO install it on a V2? Instant brickage? |
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| 20:42:12 | PaulJam | i think the sansapatcher or rbutil will refuse to install rockbox on a v2 |
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| 20:42:32 | PaulJam | at least the bootloader |
| 20:43:14 | rayj | rbutil will say bootloader is already installed |
| 20:43:33 | rayj | i had a v2 i sold it |
| 20:43:34 | vmx | it's a v1 (firmware 01.02.18f) :) |
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| 20:43:59 | rayj | you should work just fine then |
| 20:44:09 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 20:44:26 | rayj | just be sure to follow manual |
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| 20:46:10 | rayj | what id like to know is the proper way to convert a video to play properly on an e280 |
| 20:46:52 | rayj | what i get is audio out of sync & jumpy video |
| 20:48:21 | PaulJam | rayj: have you changed any of the video options? (skip frames and limit framerate should be enabled) |
| 20:48:43 | rayj | i messed with that a bit |
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| 20:49:00 | rayj | it seemed to make it worse |
| 20:49:23 | rayj | im using mencoder in linux |
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| 20:50:16 | spastic_teapot | So...I'm installing Rockbox, I guess. |
| 20:50:28 | rayj | mencoder VIDEO.avi -of mpeg -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=192 -af resample=44100:0:0 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=29 -vf scale,harddup -ofps 15 -zoom -xy 128 -o VIDEO.mpg |
| 20:50:52 | thouters | i see there coverart is now in the nightly build, is there a wps theme for ipod video that plays nice with it?, none of the wps'es i find work (they don't load - because they expect scrolling margins patch i think). I put cover.bmp's in all my folders though |
| 20:52:16 | PaulJam | rayj: you could try if it works better when you add vmax_b_frames=4 to the vcodec part. |
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| 20:52:22 | rayj | spastic_teapot sansa v2 will not accept rockbox |
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| 20:54:38 | rayj | PaulJam just tried it >>>Option vf: vmax_b_frames doesn't exist.Exiting... (error parsing command line) |
| 20:56:28 | PaulJam | change the vcodec part, so it looks like vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=29:vmax_b_frames=4 . btw, isnt a bitrate of 29 a little bit low? |
| 20:58:40 | PaulJam | rayj: does the elepantsdream example video work ok on your player? |
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| 20:59:05 | spasticteapot | I get an "unsupported install method" error when trying to install the bootloader on my C240. |
| 20:59:09 | spasticteapot | Can I assume it's a V2? |
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| 20:59:58 | bluebrother | we have a picture: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TowerOfRockbox |
| 20:59:59 | bluebrother | :) |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:22 | rayj | PaulJam where might i find elepantsdream |
| 21:00:36 | bluebrother | rayj: on the download server :) |
| 21:00:43 | bluebrother | you might also try the wiki |
| 21:00:49 | PaulJam | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras#MPEG_movies |
| 21:01:27 | pixelma | yay, nice. I like the beer tower part too. :) |
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| 21:01:37 | spasticteapot | I get an "unsupported install method" error when trying to install the bootloader on my C240. |
| 21:01:37 | spasticteapot | Can I assume it's a V2? |
| 21:01:53 | pixelma | bluebrother: and "Prost" to all as well :) |
| 21:02:02 | bluebrother | pixelma: greets back :) |
| 21:02:29 | pixelma | spasticteapot: what's your original firmware's version number? |
| 21:02:39 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
| 21:03:47 | spasticteapot | Version Info: Product Rev.: PP5022BF-06.10-S301-06.10-S301.01.05PRT |
| 21:05:42 | pixelma | ok, looks like you have a v1 model with fw version 1.01.05P. That means you need to either find a linux computer or downgrade your firmware because 1.01.05 has the MSC setting removed |
| 21:06:24 | spasticteapot | I have a Linux box. |
| 21:06:28 | spasticteapot | Ubuntu Feisty. |
| 21:06:28 | pixelma | spasticteapot: see here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#No_MSC_Mode_Firmware_Downgrade |
| 21:07:47 | spasticteapot | Huh. |
| 21:07:54 | pixelma | is that the box you tried on? |
| 21:07:58 | spasticteapot | Yah. |
| 21:08:39 | pixelma | you running sansapatcher with administrative rights? (Don't know how this is called in linux exactly) |
| 21:08:41 | * | bluebrother goes to battery saving mode and turns of the "evil" os :) |
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| 21:08:55 | spasticteapot | Sansapatcher? |
| 21:09:05 | pixelma | or rbutiö |
| 21:09:08 | spasticteapot | ???? |
| 21:09:10 | pixelma | *rbutil |
| 21:09:14 | spasticteapot | Ah, tried that. |
| 21:09:37 | krazykit | spasticteapot, you may need to run it with root permissions by using sudo |
| 21:09:42 | spasticteapot | Oh. |
| 21:09:57 | pixelma | krazykit: thank you, that's what I meant :) |
| 21:10:41 | spasticteapot | No good. |
| 21:11:19 | pixelma | doesn't work? |
| 21:11:19 | spasticteapot | It says "unsupported install method". |
| 21:11:51 | spasticteapot | Huh. |
| 21:12:02 | spasticteapot | Okay, it says the bootloader is up to date...forget that. |
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| 21:12:08 | spasticteapot | I just pressed "Install Rockbox". |
| 21:12:18 | spasticteapot | And now it's downloading, which it did NOT do before. |
| 21:12:23 | spasticteapot | Thanks for the tip... |
| 21:12:30 | spasticteapot | Apparently, running as root fixed it. |
| 21:12:32 | spasticteapot | (I hope). |
| 21:13:22 | pixelma | yeah you need to do that, hopefully I'll find the time soon to put it in the manual |
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| 21:14:36 | spasticteapot | ...You know you're an audio geek when you look at the earbuds in the picture on the "Install Rockbox" wizard and you find that you recognize not only that those are Etymotic ER4s, but they're the old version that are color-coded left-right. |
| 21:14:56 | spasticteapot | Yours, perhaps? |
| 21:15:52 | pixelma | nope, I even wouldn't have recognised those... :) |
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| 21:19:37 | spasticteapot | Well, something's wonky. |
| 21:19:47 | spasticteapot | It said it installed properly, so I disconnected the player and rebooted. |
| 21:19:54 | spasticteapot | Lo and Behold....nothing bleeping happened. |
| 21:20:07 | spasticteapot | @#$@$@#$ |
| 21:20:25 | spasticteapot | Now, when I try to run Rockbox, it gives me a "Configuration Error". |
| 21:20:34 | spasticteapot | Er, rbutil. |
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| 21:22:41 | spasticteapot | pixelma: Is this a bug? Or did I do something stupid? |
| 21:23:54 | thouters | are there any ipod wpses that display cover art but don't require bmp resize patches |
| 21:25:12 | pixelma | spasticteapot: nothing happens as in "still boots the OF?" |
| 21:25:24 | thouters | i don't have the time to set up a crosscompiler on this ubuntu or reboot into gentoo and fiddle with patches right now |
| 21:26:00 | pixelma | Llorean: around? |
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| 21:41:44 | Dan_ | test |
| 21:41:46 | spastic_teapot | I really hate this X61. |
| 21:41:46 | Dan_ | ? |
| 21:42:05 | spastic_teapot | I was about to bid on a studio monitor...and then the wifi driver crashes. |
| 21:42:06 | spastic_teapot | AGAIN. |
| 21:42:25 | krazykit | we see you Dan_ |
| 21:43:41 | Dan_ | hello, I have a very simple stupid question. I've just installed rockbox on a sansa e260. Everything looks okay, except the next time I plug the mp3 player into the computer (win XP), the add hardware wizard comes up, and cannot add the hardware, so I can't see the drive letter of the mp3 player. |
| 21:43:47 | Dan_ | how should I proceed? |
| 21:44:23 | Dan_ | by "everything looks okay" I mean rockbox is clearly on the mp3 player now, and seems to function well |
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| 21:45:06 | krazykit | Dan_, the front page states that USB functionality on the Sansa is charge-only. turn off the sansa then plug in the USB cable to transfer files |
| 21:45:15 | pixelma | ignore the driver popups from windows, after closing them you should still be able to find your sansa in the explorer |
| 21:45:36 | pixelma | (if the original firmware started |
| 21:46:01 | spastic_teapot | I'm going to go and try and install Rockbox from the Windows machine. |
| 21:46:04 | spastic_teapot | Maybe that will work. |
| 21:46:06 | pixelma | just do as krazykit says |
| 21:46:12 | Dan_ | okay thanks |
| 21:46:31 | spastic_teapot | Oh, fnord...that means I need to reset the firmware. |
| 21:46:39 | spastic_teapot | @#$@$@$ |
| 21:47:00 | spastic_teapot | It keeps saying my configuration is invalid. |
| 21:47:22 | pixelma | spastic_teapot: when, what it? |
| 21:47:52 | spastic_teapot | pixelma: I run rbutilqt, and press "configure", then "autodetect". |
| 21:47:57 | spastic_teapot | It finds the C240 just fine. |
| 21:48:11 | spastic_teapot | However, when I actually try to DO something, it says my configuration is invalid. |
| 21:48:40 | spastic_teapot | It used to detect it just fine; however, after running the "install rockbox" wizard, nothing happened, and now I'm left where I am now. |
| 21:49:00 | pixelma | hmm, haven't used rbutil much, I admit |
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| 21:52:49 | thouters | i inserted a %C at the end of the dockpodremix theme, and with the evilg build i get a coverart image, however, NOT with the current build from rockbox.org, is this to be expected? |
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| 21:59:02 | thouters | to elaborate, the cover image only shows if i switch from another theme to the dockpodremix with %?C<%C|> inserted at the EOF |
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| 22:00:31 | thouters | seems i forgot to first define picture size |
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| 22:11:22 | spastic_teapot_o | I am back. |
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| 22:12:02 | spastic_windows | For the latest revision of the C240, it's necessary to do a firmware rollback, the procedure for which is detailed on part of the Rockbox webpage. |
| 22:12:05 | spastic_windows | I just can't remember where it is. |
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| 22:14:31 | spastic_windows | How do I figure out which version of the Sansa firmware I need to download if I want to downgrade? |
| 22:14:35 | spastic_windows | And where do I get it from? |
| 22:14:40 | spastic_windows | (I have a C240.) |
| 22:14:46 | pixelma | spastic_teapot: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#No_MSC_Mode_Firmware_Downgrade |
| 22:14:49 | Zero_Chaos | I had a question about Sansa e200 series. Is the v2 support planned for the not to distant future, or is it a massive issue? |
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| 22:15:37 | spastic_windows | Product Rev.: PP5022BF-06.10-S301-06.10-S301.01.05PRT - which version of the firmware do I need, again? |
| 22:15:40 | spastic_windows | Help is much appreciated. |
| 22:15:43 | pixelma | Zero_Chaos: some people are investigating but no-one can give an estimate how long it'll take |
| 22:16:08 | pixelma | spastic_windows: it's all in the link I gave you |
| 22:16:08 | spastic_windows | pixelma: Were it not for you, I'd probbably have flung this thing out the window by now. :) |
| 22:16:24 | Zero_Chaos | pixelma: I am not looking for an estimate so much as a "we are planning to support it" |
| 22:16:49 | Zero_Chaos | pixelma: I hear the e280v1 doesn't support sdhc, and it is also hard to find... hence, if I buy it, it would likely be a v2 |
| 22:17:16 | pixelma | Zero_Chaos: maybe the related threads in the new ports forum are an interesting read |
| 22:17:25 | krazykit | Zero_Chaos, actually, Rockbox supports microSDHC while the OF doesn't on the v1 |
| 22:17:37 | Zero_Chaos | pixelma: I'll check it out |
| 22:17:39 | pixelma | and with Rockbox even... |
| 22:17:48 | pixelma | what krazykit said :) |
| 22:17:50 | Zero_Chaos | krazykit: i noticed that actually, the issue is more getting the v1 |
| 22:18:31 | spastic_windows | How do I figure out which version of the firmware I have? |
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| 22:19:24 | pixelma | in the original firmware go to settings > system info (or sth. like that) |
| 22:19:34 | spastic_windows | Oh. Duh. |
| 22:19:44 | Nydomos | i need some help... i just installed rockbox on my sansa e260, and it works, but now windows does not recognize it as a drive (find new hardware wizard comes up) I am using Win XP Sp2 |
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| 22:20:22 | safetydan | Nydomos, reboot in to the original firmware to use it as a drive. |
| 22:20:34 | Nydomos | oh, ok |
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| 22:21:19 | pixelma | or just turn the player off and then plug USB, the original firmware should start automatically |
| 22:21:45 | spastic_windows | It says 01.01.05P. Hence, I should download the SansaC200P1_01_00.7z firmware? |
| 22:23:02 | pixelma | yes, the "P" one |
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| 22:26:41 | Zero_Chaos | comparing hardware wise, is the sansa e280v1 or v2 superior? |
| 22:26:46 | Zero_Chaos | or about the same? |
| 22:27:26 | spastic_windows | How do I unzip the files? They're in .7z format. |
| 22:27:31 | webguest62 | spastic_windows: there is ofcourse the manual as well http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 |
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| 22:28:09 | webguest62 | get the 7zip program its freeware |
| 22:28:35 | pixelma | webguest62: unfortunately it doesn't mention the problem with some firmwares on c200 and how to deal with it yet... |
| 22:28:52 | captmorgan | hey, just got an iriver h10 yesterday and have a question, will rockbox make it UMS over MTP? |
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| 22:29:09 | lymeca | So I have a 4th gen 20GB monochrome with Rockbox |
| 22:29:16 | webguest62 | the manual "bot" needs to be flogged ? :-) |
| 22:29:24 | lymeca | THe problem it that it completely shuts off when the battery life reaches ~10% |
| 22:29:27 | lymeca | It's very sad. |
| 22:29:37 | | Part webguest62 |
| 22:29:44 | lymeca | I would love to listen to music until 1% |
| 22:29:46 | Zero_Chaos | pixelma: so no idea if v1 or v2's hardware is better in any way? more/less ram, cpu? |
| 22:29:53 | lymeca | Is this a hardware problem or a ROckbox problem? |
| 22:31:03 | pixelma | Zero_Chaos: I only know that there is a different CPU, if that one is better/worse - no idea. Would have to read the threads too... |
| 22:31:22 | Zero_Chaos | pixelma: I did ;-) doesn't seem to have gotten too far. |
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| 22:33:44 | pixelma | well, the v2s are quite new |
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| 22:35:00 | captmorgan | A little off topic, anyone know how I can use Ubuntu to update the firmware of my irIVER H10? or a better channel for that? |
| 22:35:22 | spastic_windows | Sansapatcher does not "see" my mp3 player. |
| 22:35:43 | spastic_windows | I should have it connected in standard mode, not in "upgrade the firmware" mode? |
| 22:35:56 | Nydomos | is in in msc usb mode? |
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| 22:36:08 | safetydan | lymeca, running a li-ion battery like the one in your iPod too low will damage it. |
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| 22:36:20 | pixelma | spastic_windows: you downgraded the firmware and alsp set the now present "USB" option to MSC in the original firmware? |
| 22:36:26 | pixelma | *also |
| 22:36:37 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: ping [when you have a moment] |
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| 22:37:16 | spastic_windows | D'oh! |
| 22:37:21 | spastic_windows | Forgot that got changed back. |
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| 22:43:36 | bubba1121 | Can i ask somebody a question about a database issue on the Sansa C240? |
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| 22:45:12 | pixelma | bubba1121: just ask and someone who knows will answer you |
| 22:45:22 | desowin | bubba1121: in guidelines, there's something about asking to ask...just ask, and maybe someone answers you |
| 22:46:56 | bubba1121 | The database stays stuck at the building state. I've wiped the unit and started from scratch by just adding one song and it still has this issue. When building it says that it found 35 items even though there is only 1 song. Any pointers? |
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| 22:50:33 | pixelma | Bagder: maybe you could tell Zero_Chaos a bit more about the v2 sansas? |
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| 22:50:50 | Bagder | Zero_Chaos: any in particular you're interested in? |
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| 22:51:05 | spasticteapot | Ha! I got it installed! |
| 22:51:27 | spasticteapot | What media player program is reccomended for use with Rockbox? |
| 22:51:47 | spasticteapot | I like Exaile!, but I'm not sure if it works well with it. |
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| 22:55:41 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: yeah, I saw your page talking about a few of the differences between v1 and v2 for sansa e280; I was wondering, either one stand out as better hardware (despite incomplete support for v2) |
| 22:55:53 | spasticteapot | Anyone? |
| 22:56:48 | Bagder | Zero_Chaos: I don't know as I haven't seen nor touched any of the v2s in real life and I don't think they've been around long enough to be proven hw-wise. |
| 22:57:17 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: spec wise perhaps? less ram, more ram, faster clock. ? |
| 22:57:34 | Bagder | I think the main differences seem to be flash size and lcd |
| 22:57:55 | Bagder | we don't know much about ram sizes yet |
| 22:58:00 | Bagder | nor clock |
| 22:58:04 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: flash size, ie the e280v1 and the e280v2 have different amount of flash? |
| 22:58:22 | Bagder | ah you mean between v1 and v2 |
| 22:58:28 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: yeah |
| 22:58:52 | Bagder | then the basic diff is the SoC which is a (up to) 250MHz ARM9 in the v2 but a dual 100MHz core in the v1 |
| 22:59:06 | spasticteapot | What music programs do people here use? Amarok? XMMS? Rythmbox? Exaile? |
| 22:59:12 | Bagder | which gives the v2 more horse power used easier |
| 22:59:19 | Bagder | and we have docs for it |
| 22:59:28 | Bagder | which we don't for the portalplayer in the v1 |
| 22:59:49 | Zero_Chaos | Bagder: I want to buy an e280 and the v2's are the only ones I can find new. So I will go for the v2 and wait for some fun testing in my future ;-) |
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| 23:00:17 | dak0ta | So has anybody seen the issue i'm experiencing with the c240? Thanks. |
| 23:01:01 | desowin | Zero_Chaos: just to let you know...sansa OF is unuseable imo |
| 23:01:55 | Zero_Chaos | desowin: from what I hear it sucks major ass but is not "unuseable" if I just wanted to listen to some music on the plane. And I have little issue testing alpha code as long as I have a low danger of bricking the device. |
| 23:02:27 | pixelma | dak0ta: usually the database only gets stuck on errors in the tags, did you try with another file? |
| 23:02:30 | Llorean | spasticteapot: Choice of music program really has nothing to do with Rockbox |
| 23:03:10 | dak0ta | yes. i've tried with multiple files but I did use the same tool to create all of my tags. |
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| 23:05:45 | pixelma | what type of files and what kind of tags do they have (like mp3s with ID3 tags)? |
| 23:07:17 | spasticteapot | When I plug my Rockbox'd C240 into my PC via USB, it's supposed to go back to the old firmware??? |
| 23:09:55 | dak0ta | are there any known tag properties that I may need to exclude from my files? I've just been using the default settings in the application Tag & Rename. Thanks. |
| 23:10:15 | spasticteapot | I think that my mp3 player has gone loopy. |
| 23:11:21 | pixelma | spasticteapot: yes, it still needs the original firmware for data transfers |
| 23:11:34 | spasticteapot | I read through the manual, and still I'm confused: How am I supposed to put music on it? |
| 23:11:45 | Mouser_X | Drag+drop |
| 23:11:52 | spasticteapot | All the folders are locked. |
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| 23:11:55 | Mouser_X | Put it wherever, and however, you want. |
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| 23:12:01 | Mouser_X | So create new ones? |
| 23:12:12 | |NSA| | any way to whitelist directories that the database thingy should scan? |
| 23:12:12 | Mouser_X | Unlock them? |
| 23:12:21 | dak0ta | they are mp3 files with ID3 tags. |
| 23:12:21 | |NSA| | instead of blacklisting |
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| 23:13:38 | pixelma | dak0ta: check if there are also ape tags - if so get rid of them |
| 23:13:45 | spasticteapot | My C240 is now a "read only file system." |
| 23:13:46 | spasticteapot | WTF? |
| 23:14:13 | |NSA| | spasticteapot: is it one of those woot ones? |
| 23:14:13 | Llorean | |NSA|: If you have more folders that the database shouldn't scan than folders that it should, perhaps you should reconsider whether you want a DAP or a portable HD. |
| 23:14:19 | dak0ta | pixelma: excuse my ignorance, but how would i check to see if they have those tags? |
| 23:14:51 | Mouser_X | Llorean: Perhaps he just has tons of audio formats that he doesn't want in the database? |
| 23:15:15 | pixelma | dak0ta: I don't know tag&rename - the tag tool I use tells me |
| 23:15:26 | dak0ta | which one do you use? |
| 23:15:46 | Llorean | Mouser_X: If I recall the database ignore flag includes subfolders too, right? |
| 23:15:55 | pixelma | also some pc music players. I use mp3tag most of the times |
| 23:16:00 | |NSA| | and what is the url of the page talking about qtuutil |
| 23:16:30 | Mouser_X | Llorean: I think so. I need to readup on it. It's something that I should use. |
| 23:17:03 | dak0ta | i'll snag it now and check. |
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| 23:18:25 | spasticteapot | NSA: Yup. |
| 23:18:33 | pixelma | ah Llorean, just wanted to ask you about how to proceed with attached patches or plugins... do you usually just delete them? |
| 23:18:46 | spasticteapot | It worked before I installed Rockbox.....for a very limited definition of "worked". |
| 23:19:26 | spasticteapot | Apparently, to get an mp3 player to work with playlists, I will have to scribe them on stone tablets, take them to the temple mount, and grind them up with the entrails of no less than three lemurs. |
| 23:19:42 | Mouser_X | Huh? |
| 23:20:09 | Mouser_X | Playlists work fine in Rockbox. You just need to know how to convert them, if they're not in M3U format. |
| 23:20:13 | dak0ta | Ok, the properties of one of my tested files shows this: ID3v2.3 (ID3v1 ID3v2.3) |
| 23:20:17 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
| 23:20:37 | Mouser_X | I've used Winamp to create playlists for Rockbox. |
| 23:20:38 | spasticteapot | Problem is, no drag-and-drop. |
| 23:20:50 | spasticteapot | It's write-only now. |
| 23:21:05 | Mouser_X | Shouldn't be. It sounds like there's a problem. |
| 23:21:20 | spasticteapot | I'm pretty sure there is. |
| 23:21:21 | Llorean | pixelma: Yes, if a file is attached like that, where the extension isn't allowed, simply feel free to delete it. |
| 23:21:33 | Mouser_X | Are you in Windows, or Linux? |
| 23:21:36 | pixelma | dak0ta: hmm, sounds ok |
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| 23:21:48 | spasticteapot | Linux. |
| 23:21:52 | Mouser_X | spasticteapot: And, what permissions do you have? |
| 23:21:56 | Mouser_X | Are you root? |
| 23:21:57 | pixelma | Llorean: and the patch itself? |
| 23:22:02 | Mouser_X | (Or whatever it is.) |
| 23:22:08 | spasticteapot | Mouser_X: Nope. |
| 23:22:12 | * | Mouser_X doesn't use Linux. |
| 23:22:12 | dak0ta | that's what i thought....hence my confusion. :) |
| 23:22:26 | |NSA| | its not possible to edit playlists from within rockbox? |
| 23:22:46 | Mouser_X | |NSA|: Sure it is. You'd need to open it in the text_editor plugin though. |
| 23:23:08 | Mouser_X | (Which can be a slight pain...) |
| 23:23:39 | Llorean | pixelma: Well, in that case, I'm almost positive that what that .C is is more a demonstration, than a patch submitted for inclusion, or even a patch that does what the user wanted. So I kinda left it as I think it's more "here's some sample code" (which could't been done in a [code][/code] block) than a patch |
| 23:23:51 | spasticteapot | Well, even under root, I STILL can't put anything on the rockbox. |
| 23:23:59 | Llorean | Mouser_X: What's wrong with the playlist editor? |
| 23:24:04 | |NSA| | Mouser_X: how? i cant find a "file open" in the text editor plugin |
| 23:24:13 | spasticteapot | I think it's bricked. |
| 23:24:16 | amiconn | Mouser_X: Eh? There are more comfortable methods than the text editor... |
| 23:24:19 | |NSA| | and opening it from files just plays the songs |
| 23:24:38 | Mouser_X | I was refering to editing a non-active playlist. If there's other means, then I didn't know of them. |
| 23:24:56 | Mouser_X | (Active being the one you're currently listening to.) |
| 23:24:57 | |NSA| | amiconn: how? |
| 23:25:00 | Llorean | |NSA|: Yes, and then pause, and go to the playlist viewer. |
| 23:25:11 | pixelma | Llorean: ah, thanks. Next time I'll be able to react quicker :) |
| 23:25:36 | |NSA| | yeah but how do i edit them, how can i for example remove an item? |
| 23:25:53 | Llorean | |NSA|: Use the context menu on an entry in the playlist viewer. |
| 23:26:00 | Llorean | The manual might refer to it as the "File Menu" |
| 23:26:32 | spasticteapot | Llorean: Any chance you know why I can't access my mp3 player? |
| 23:27:26 | Llorean | spasticteapot: What original firmware version? |
| 23:27:32 | |NSA| | Llorean: how do i access the context menu on a c200 sansa, i just ranomly press buttons and sometimes it comes up. but i dont know how i get it tocome up |
| 23:27:34 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
| 23:27:38 | spasticteapot | I downgraded it first.... |
| 23:28:09 | spasticteapot | For what it's worth, it's the one on your website it told me to downgrade to. |
| 23:28:11 | |NSA| | hmm, it seems to be the combo "select" + down |
| 23:28:18 | Mouser_X | In some instances, using the text_editor plugin is better than the playlist editor. For example, I wanted to remove a very large segment of the playlist. In the PL editor, I would have had to do a long select, then remove, many times. In the text_editor, I simply selected a line, then cut it. Select the next line, cut it, and keep doing that. It was much faster, and I didn't need to worry about accidently playing the selected file. |
| 23:28:20 | Llorean | |NSA|: Is it not in the manual yet? |
| 23:29:01 | Llorean | spasticteapot: I've noticed some difficulty with my c200 too, and it's a problem with the OF as it's their USB mode. I don't know how to fix it yet. |
| 23:29:10 | spasticteapot | Well, fnord. |
| 23:29:37 | spasticteapot | How do I unbrick the silly thing? |
| 23:29:50 | spasticteapot | At least under the OF, I could play music. |
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| 23:31:22 | Llorean | Well, all I did was reinstalled the OF and had it reformat my player. Version 1.01.06P of the OF seems to be working fine for me, and installing Rockbox over it was no problem |
| 23:32:16 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
| 23:32:39 | spasticteapot | How do I go about reinstalling the OF? |
| 23:32:42 | spasticteapot | I'd like to try that, now. |
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| 23:34:28 | samwichse | hello, is there such a thing as a script to transfer Amarok album art to my rockboxed Sansa without manually copying/renaming/reformatting each image? |
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| 23:35:51 | Llorean | spasticteapot: Same process as the downgrade, but with a current firmware file |
| 23:36:08 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
| 23:36:13 | spasticteapot | Where do I get one of those? |
| 23:36:20 | spasticteapot | And how do I load it on to the now-bricked mp3 player? |
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| 23:37:28 | Mouser_X | Can you get it into recovery mode? Can the OF file be loaded onto it in recovery mode? |
| 23:38:27 | Llorean | spasticteapot: Recovery mode should still work. |
| 23:38:40 | spasticteapot | How do I engage that? |
| 23:39:28 | pixelma | same steps as when you downgraded |
| 23:39:36 | spasticteapot | Hmm. |
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| 23:43:19 | dak0ta | ok....now the unit has no songs on it all. When i select database, it tells me it's not initialized so I initialize it. It then tells me it's updating the database with 27 found (PREV to return). Am I missing something here? lol |
| 23:43:49 | dak0ta | err...building database, not updating...sorry. |
| 23:44:21 | pixelma | afaik the database has a bug that it doesn't update when it finds no music |
| 23:44:29 | pixelma | or initialise |
| 23:45:33 | safetydan | dak0ta, you don't have files in your recycle bin/.trash do you? |
| 23:45:52 | dak0ta | safetydan: on the unit? |
| 23:45:57 | safetydan | dak0ta, yes |
| 23:46:07 | dak0ta | where would i check for that at? |
| 23:46:23 | Mouser_X | Do you have "hidden" files showing? |
| 23:46:55 | Mouser_X | If the hidden files aren't showing up, then you wouldn't be able to see the recycle bin (Note: This is if you're using Windows.) |
| 23:46:55 | dak0ta | umm...i don't know...ll |
| 23:47:06 | safetydan | dak0ta, are you using Windows? |
| 23:47:08 | dak0ta | ye |
| 23:47:12 | dak0ta | yes |
| 23:47:37 | dak0ta | The recycle bin in windows is empty |
| 23:47:55 | safetydan | you'll need to enable "show hidden files" and actually check that the recycle bin on your player is empty |
| 23:48:38 | dak0ta | ahh..gotcha. I was looking through the unit, not in Windows. Let me check. |
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| 23:51:08 | dak0ta12 | I don't see a recycle bin/.trash folder on my c240. |
| 23:51:40 | safetydan | dak0ta12, is there a recylce bin folder at all? |
| 23:52:13 | dak0ta12 | should it be on the root of the unit? I don't see one. I did format the drive before installing rockbox on it. |
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| 23:55:42 | dak0ta12 | I see the following folders at the root: .rockbox, music, photo,playlists, record, system, tmp |
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| 23:57:28 | Klevi | How can i make my Micro SD card rewriteable... somehow it got changed to readonly (sansa c200 is my player) |
| 23:57:56 | Bagder | Klevi: using linux? |
| 23:58:30 | Klevi | Nay Windows |
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