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#rockbox log for 2008-01-01

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00:01:05billeniumis working for anyone?
00:01:17LloreanWorks fine for me
00:01:49billeniumcould i ask you a small favor?
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00:15:51markunhappy new year guys!! (and girls :)
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00:17:43JdGordon|wditto markun
00:17:51J-23Heppy new year! (17 minutes after in my country)
00:18:27billeniumstill another 6 hours - 17 minutes here
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00:18:36*scorche|w wonders if we are going to do this for each time zone
00:18:56billeniumever hour on the hour im going to say happy new years
00:19:09billeniumi guess i can setup a timer script for that...
00:19:45*scorche|w readies the kick button
00:20:32billeniumscorche has kicking privalleges?
00:20:37billeniumits not like im spamming anyways =P
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00:32:11AceDaPighow do i get out of a game?
00:32:30LloreanDepends an awful lot on what game, and what player. I'd suggest The Manual for a good starting piont
00:32:44AceDaPigwhere can i look for in the manual;
00:33:00LloreanIn the section for that plugin...
00:33:02AceDaPignone of the chapters seem to cover games
00:33:37LloreanOpen the PDF manual in a PDF viewer, search, and type in the name of the plugin you're using?
00:34:14AceDaPigrockbox > ipl
00:34:20AceDaPigso simple
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00:35:51billeniumim happy i "suggested" for him use rockbox
00:39:23JdGordon|wso, i want to run this by the channel hoipefully while the others are asleep.... who thinks a HAVE_FLUFFY_GUI option would be a good thing, with viewports we have more flexibility with the screen but i know some stuff will be pointless on the small screen / b+w screen targets... would keeping two gui's going be impossible?
00:40:05scorche|wwould viewports not be able to look the same as the old one?
00:40:23JdGordon|wit would
00:40:33scorche|wthen why?
00:40:52LloreanI'm confused as to what you're suggesting.
00:40:55JdGordon|wbut its the extra stuff which we havnt got yet which would be a big red delta on the "crap" targets
00:41:56JdGordon|wstuff like allowing wps+menu on the same screen, almost useless on the smaller targets, but i already know the code for that is going to be complicated and wated on say the archos
00:41:58J-23Where can I download precompiled apps for Sansa c240?
00:42:23LloreanJ-23: Rockbox includes all the official plugins. Beyond that, there isn't really anyone providing precompiled "apps"
00:42:33LloreanThere are occasionally unsupported builds, but that's a whole Rockbox replacement
00:43:02LloreanJdGordon|w: I think that'd end up being more a feature-by-feature #ifdef than #ifdef HAVE_GUI_ADVANCED
00:44:15LloreanFor example large icons might work on the c200 (the default firmware is basically a one item per screen list version of the e200 firmware) while menu-in-WPS would be unsuitable just because of the tiny, tiny screen size
00:46:25JdGordon|wthat was the other option
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00:46:36scorche|wif you are keeping legacy systems around through ifdefs, why even roll out a new system?...i could see a fork, but if you are going to roll out a new system, then replace the old one on something with not much int he way of resources
00:46:52LloreanI can kinda see it going two ways
00:46:59LloreanCurrently menus, filetree, *everything* are just a matter of lists.
00:47:01*JdGordon|w would love to see apps/ forked
00:47:56JdGordon|wbut yeah, having one define for everything means we could possilby release 2 builds per target, although i think the big colour ones would just be the full gui anyway
00:49:19JdGordon|wbig icons are actually one of the things I had in mind, along with a grid interface instead of the lists
00:49:41LloreanAnd see that's where it gets interesting
00:49:51LloreanThe grid interface could still be a list behind the scenes, or it could not really be.
00:50:09*JdGordon|w thinks of his poor mr500 which hasnt been touched for ages
00:50:10LloreanMeaning, sorta, that you could have an algorithm that just takes the list that the normal UI uses and generates your grid UI
00:50:20JdGordon|wwell thats the plan
00:50:34LloreanBasically, you could choose to, in a way, preserve compatibility with the old UI, which basically results in swappable systems, at a cost of flexibility
00:50:35JdGordon|wI want all gui elements to split the drawing code from the logic
00:50:51LloreanSee, that sounds good to me.
00:51:09J-23I've downloaded and unpacked to my Sansa c240 player newest version of Rockbox. I have tried to run brickmania... "Incompatible version"
00:51:11JdGordon|wthe list does this enhough that a grid could be done relativly easily now, I think, using vp to scroll stuff properly
00:51:13LloreanSo you can more easily tailor your graphical output to the target, without worrying about the logic beneath
00:51:40JdGordon|whaving both would allow a grid on main screen and list on remote
00:51:43LloreanJ-23: Then you didn't unpack it properly. Try deleting the .rockbox folder first (remember to back up any themes or .cfg files)
00:54:48J-23Llorean: /config.cfg and /themes/*?
00:55:07LloreanJ-23: Basically yes. Possibly your database files too, if you've generated a database
00:55:20J-23I've backuped all.
00:55:34J-23rm -rf .rockbox?
00:55:58LloreanJ-23: Yes, then extract the new one
00:56:46LloreanJdGordon|w: It'd be neat if the UI was separated enough that it'd be relatively easy for patch authors to just write up new UIs (specifically, it'd be kinda neat to see unsupported builds that don't even look like Rockbox any more, with people *really* experimenting with UI design, since that's what we get a lot of complaints about)
00:57:10LloreanDespite the number of people who don't like the UIs, almost nobody has done much playing in methods for improving its actual usability other than you and I quibbling about button maps and such. :)
00:57:20JdGordon|wyeah, agreed
00:57:59LloreanI wouldn't go so far as to suggest list-rendering plugins, but making it easy enough to us #ifdefs to swap rendering methods would be neat.
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01:00:37pikhqWhat codecs will the iPod support?
01:01:05Lloreanpikhq: All the ones Rockbox supports, though Monkey's Audio is too slow to really be usable
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01:02:59nickv111Hey all. I just tried to upgrade Rockbox on my iPod, and I upgraded both the firmware and the software. However, now when I boot my third-generation iPod, I get a picture of a folder with a sign with an exclamation point in it and it doesn't boot
01:03:25J-23Llorean: Now I can't run font browser...
01:03:48LloreanJ-23: Re-install the fonts.
01:04:47Lloreannickv111: What do you mean by "firmware and software". What exactly did you do?
01:04:54nickv111I ran ipodpatcher
01:05:08nickv111And I also unpacked the base and font zips
01:05:40LloreanSo you updated the bootloader and Rockbox itself
01:05:54LloreanHow had you previously installed the bootloader?
01:06:02J-23Where are fonts?
01:06:05J-23 /fonts?
01:06:10LloreanJ-23: On the extras wiki page.
01:06:10nickv111I don't know
01:06:14nickv111Llorean: I have no idea,.
01:06:53billeniumthis is the ipods error, not rockbox
01:06:59Lloreannickv111: The easiest solution is to boot your iPod into disk mode, and attempt to have iPodPatcher uninstall. This probably won't work, but if it does, is the best bet.
01:07:24billeniumits ipods fault
01:07:25Lloreannickv111: The most likely to work will be to have iTunes restore your iPod. This will remove all music, so you'll need to copy music back onto it, and reinstall Rockbox from scratch
01:07:41nickv111Llorean: No problem. Thanks.
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01:08:14Lloreanbillenium: That error can mean a few different things, up to and including, "the hidden partition on the iPod's disk is corrupted" which can be caused by an improper installation of Rockbox, though it should be impossible to cause with iPodpatcher unless it is interrupted while writing, or otherwise forced to fail
01:13:23nickv111Thanks, all. I gotta go
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01:13:46J-23Is there calendar plugin for Sansa c200?
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01:25:19DogBoytrying to convert a nano to fat32, the instructions on the wiki talk about windows and mac but not linux
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01:27:43krazykitthere's a "manual ipod restore" that will do it
01:28:28DogBoyheh, on windows
01:28:58krazykitso... what's the problem?
01:29:09DogBoyI don't use windows?
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01:29:26krazykiti thought you meant you were on windows.
01:30:16krazykitthe manual conversion is the same for linux as the mac, except the filesystem command
01:30:30DogBoythere are two methods explained on the wiki, the "easy way" (windows) and the hard way (mac)
01:30:34krazykitand the /dev locations
01:31:01krazykityes, the mac and linux methods are identical EXCEPT the /dev location naming and the part where you make the filesystem
01:31:17DogBoynewfs_msdos I can't seem to find anything about except for mac
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01:31:39krazykitmkfs.vfat -F 32
01:31:48krazykiti believe.
01:32:59LloreanI think the preferred tool might actually be an open source tool named fat32format. I've heard it's a bit more reliable
01:33:17J-23Why I haven't all listed in PluginIndex plugins in my player?
01:33:39LloreanJ-23: Because people haven't finished converting all of them to the very, very tiny screen, and the few buttons?
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01:34:43J-23Llorean: Can I help them? I don't know C...
01:34:55LloreanYou'd need to learn C
01:35:01LloreanOr at least, some very basics of C
01:35:09DogBoyhehe, that seems to be a windows program Llorean
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01:36:54J-23Llorean: Using stdout, stdin, functions, objects, including, # commands?
01:38:02LloreanDogBoy: Hm, I thought it was an open source little app
01:38:48LloreanJ-23: Depends on the app you'd be modifying, and what needs to be done. You'd need to be able to read it, determine if it's just a question of keymap, needing new graphics (which someone would then have to draw), repositioning elements, etc.
01:39:07LloreanIf you've taken a beginning C course, or read a book, it's probably enough for adapting the plugins unless there's something odd standing in the way
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01:45:36J-23How can I compile plugins?
01:52:25krazykitinstall the toolchain, the instructions are on the wiki
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01:53:11krazykitJ-23, read this:
01:54:03J-23But on Linux?
01:54:37krazykitit's the same, except you don't set up cygwin
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02:01:39billeniumwoohoo for not setting up cygwin
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02:06:44Topic"Please read before speaking: | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | Let the betting pool for new ports during the next year begin! ;)" by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
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02:19:03psycho_maniacI noticed when there is a new player that rockbox supports there is always a topic about creating a new ui when rockbox already has a wps and themes.
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03:13:01DerDomehappy new year to all of you!
03:14:34webguest97hi can anyone please help me. i want to convert a video for my ipod but its in a different language so i download the subtitles seperate (.str) is there a converter i can use to convert them "with the subs" so i can watch it on rockbox?
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03:21:51webguest97Anyone know? Please help...please. :)
03:23:00minifig904I think you'll want to ask in the community channel or on google...
03:23:22minifig904Not that I'd know...
03:23:41webguest97oh so...where can i ask?
03:23:41hcswebguest97: if you use mplayer/mencoder it will get the subs and include them in the converted video
03:23:53hcsI'm fairly certain vlc will, as well
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03:24:56hcswebguest97: yes
03:25:13hcsassuming that it uses them when it plays normally
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03:25:43moncheviquemust be the ipod on disk mode to insall it
03:25:59moncheviqueor normal
03:26:18psycho_maniacit has to be in disk mode
03:26:18hcsmonchevique: either, but disk mode is recommended
03:26:38webguest97um let me check the mpeg player page thanks. :)
03:27:55moncheviquecuz i cant install it i have restored it recently
03:28:00moncheviqueis a 5.5
03:28:17webguest97hey i have the winiff will that do it?
03:28:23moncheviquemust i killl a process
03:28:41webguest97i like it because it's pretty fast and i don't know how to use vlc to convert.
03:29:04moncheviquewhy does it say ipod not found
03:29:11moncheviqueif i have closed itunes
03:29:24moncheviquewhats the problem??
03:29:53minifig904webguest97: for vlc, you set the playback options, and tell it to stream/output to a file. You may have to look in the advanced options.
03:30:01hcsmonchevique: is it in disk mode?
03:30:04moncheviqueany suggestions
03:30:23moncheviqueand then i connect it and close itunes
03:30:30moncheviqueand then i execute
03:30:37moncheviquethe installer
03:31:02hcscan you see the ipod as a drive in My Computer?
03:31:04moncheviquei dont understand
03:31:16moncheviquei can see
03:31:22moncheviquethe usb
03:31:25moncheviquei cant
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03:31:51moncheviqueon mode disk
03:31:52moncheviquei cant
03:31:56moncheviquebut normal
03:31:58moncheviqueyes i do
03:32:01hcsmonchevique: please try pressing enter less
03:32:04webguest97sorry i logged out by accident let me try
03:32:29moncheviquewhats the main problem so??
03:33:01hcsmonchevique: I don't know. Hopefully someone else will notice shortly and be able to help you.
03:33:39moncheviquecuz i wanted to install it on linux, cuz for me its easier
03:33:50moncheviquebut its exactly the same problem with the driver
03:33:59moncheviquefucking drivers!!!
03:34:05scorchewhat driver?
03:34:14psycho_maniacmonchevique: you dont need a driver for your player.
03:34:27moncheviquethe machine doesnt recognizes the ipod
03:34:50advcomp2019monchevique, are you in rockbox when you get this
03:35:41moncheviqueno first i connect the ipod and then i open rockbox
03:35:45moncheviquethe executable
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03:39:26soapdoes anyone have a nice script to build for all targets and make nice-named zip files in the process?
03:39:49hcssoap: I have the first half
03:40:03moncheviqueis it normal if i cant see the icon usb, when i conect the ipod??
03:40:15soapso it makes for all targets, what is the finished product if it doesn't rename the .zip files?
03:40:42monchevique:-$ anyone
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03:41:00hcssoap: files in the build directories
03:41:01psycho_maniacmonchevique: when somebody can help you they will answer you.
03:41:13moncheviqueand what about u
03:41:17moncheviquecan u help me??
03:41:34soapyou're the man
03:41:45hcs(course you have to specify the build numbers at the top there"
03:42:30soapand if I select the iPod video (is there another one with a secondary question) ?
03:42:30psycho_maniacmonchevique: i didnt answer your question before so obviously i cannot help you just sit patiently
03:43:11hcssoap: then it won't work
03:43:13advcomp2019monchevique, are you in rockbox because rockbox does not have usb support yet so you need to boot into the disk mode on the ipod if i am reading the manual right
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03:43:53psycho_maniaccorrect and when you plug in your player to the computer while in rockbox it automatically goes to the emergency disk mode in the ipod OF
03:43:54soapthanks for the script - I think I might use it as a jumping-off point.
03:44:12moncheviquei have had the ipod on disk mode
03:44:19psycho_maniacsoap: just curious, what you going to use this for?
03:44:19moncheviqueand it didnt work anyway
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03:44:36moncheviquethats weirdo
03:44:53psycho_maniacthat didnt answer the question
03:45:09psycho_maniacok i read the room wrong silly me
03:45:17soappsycho_maniac, I was going to build a matching set of player builds to complement the simulator builds rasher did including the viewport patch.
03:45:57psycho_maniac;O a viewport patch?
03:46:10moncheviquedoes it answer u question advcomp
03:46:30soappsycho_maniac, indeed - linuxstb has it nearly complete
03:46:36soapworking code in the patch tracker.
03:46:48soapworking sims on rasher's site
03:46:55psycho_maniacmay i have the Fs number">
03:47:43advcomp2019monchevique, yea.. you might want to wait or look on the forums
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03:48:29moncheviquei think that its problem of my computer
03:48:39moncheviquei dont know
03:48:45moncheviquevery weird my problem
03:49:02psycho_maniacitunes sometimes hides the actual drive in "my computer"
03:49:16moncheviqueyeah is the fucking itunes
03:49:43moncheviquei think i should install it in a computer which doesnt have itunes
03:49:59psycho_maniacand stop swearing also
03:49:59moncheviqueis it a better option richt?
03:50:03krazykitmonchevique, foul language isn't necessary. this IS a support channel. please try to be civil
03:50:14moncheviqueim civilizated
03:50:31moncheviquewhat must i do, to wear a heat
03:50:34moncheviqueto plary
03:50:39advcomp2019monchevique, please read the guidelines too
03:50:50moncheviqueooooh, besides of that
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03:50:54moncheviqueand what else
03:51:02moncheviquemust i donate
03:51:09psycho_maniacand stop pressing enter so much
03:51:14moncheviquewhat else to be civilizated
03:51:20moncheviqueooh besides of that
03:51:26moncheviquewhat else??
03:51:29psycho_maniacumm read the guidelines like advcomp2019
03:53:08minifig904I'm running the most recent Rockbox daily (updated an hour ago at most) on a 4th gen iPod B+W. I've got all my music rated in the iPod's built-in DB, if Amarok and RhythmBox are any indicator, but it looks like Rockbox's DB has no ratings. Checked the manual and the wiki, but I didn't find any information there. Is importing rating from the iPod DB not supported, or did I miss something?
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03:53:32moncheviquemm i think that i should have killed the process of ipodservice and itunes, now i can see the usb icon
03:53:35krazykitminifig904, the rockbox database and the itunes database are completely seperate
03:54:09moncheviquedid i do fine??
03:54:50krazykitand rockbox doesn't touch the itunes database. i think there's a program on the wiki that can do something with the itunesDB, but i don't know if it's even in a functional state.
03:55:09minifig904Hm, ok, I'll check again.
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03:55:13moncheviqueit doesnt work anyway, fu ck!!
03:55:16moncheviqueim sad
03:55:46scorchemonchevique: the guildelines and start following them
03:55:59moncheviquewhat for, i hate rules
03:56:02psycho_maniacmonchevique: see how minifig904 wrote all his information on one line and didnt use the enter button over 2 times? try doing that.
03:56:17moncheviqueooh and what a waste of time he did
03:56:25scorchemonchevique: either you follow the rules or you leave
03:56:30advcomp2019monchevique, please read the guidelines like scorche said and i said earlier
03:57:26minifig904krazykit: Yeah, found one such program, but it needs updating; it was from when the DB was called "Tag Cache"
03:57:27moncheviqueit says, blah blah, blah, and BLAH!!!!
03:58:03scorchemonchevique: last warning
04:00:35moncheviquewho is the boss from here
04:00:47scorchewhat does it matter?
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04:00:55moncheviquea lot
04:01:21moncheviqueu asked why, and i tell you why
04:02:00minifig904I didn't find any other programs in the wiki (searched: "ipod DB"), I assume that one was the only support?
04:03:04hcsminifig904: yeah, I had written that a while bad and it was never updated
04:03:10hcs*back, sorry
04:03:44scorchemonchevique: it does not matter who the "boss" is around here...the rules are not dependent upon if an op is around...really...please read the rules and follow them
04:04:00moncheviquedont make me laugh
04:04:06scorchewhat is so funny?
04:04:37moncheviquewhats not so funny?
04:04:45moncheviquequestion, questions and question
04:05:01minifig904np. Oh well. I'll have to work on it later. I'm no great shakes with C, but I'll let you guys know if I manage to get anything useful.
04:05:46minifig904Thanks much, maybe I'll see everyone later...
04:06:17moncheviquei guess scorche that ure the host
04:06:24moncheviquehow did u get the power
04:06:33moncheviquegimme the power
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04:06:43ShaidWhat are you, 12?
04:07:48moncheviqueto ban everybody from here, cuz nobody is hepling
04:08:02Mode"#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
04:08:03Mode"#rockbox +b %*!*@ " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
04:08:28scorche10 minute mute...please use this time to go over the IRC guidelines and see what you can change...
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04:17:25soaprasher, are you using version 4 of linuxstb's viewports patch for your simulator builds?
04:18:32Mode"#rockbox -b %*!*@ " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
04:19:17moncheviquewhat does PMed mean, and i will leave
04:19:45soapprivate messaged
04:19:47scorcheprivate is what you went and pestered me in after i muted you
04:20:35moncheviquepost meridian
04:20:40moncheviquesee you soon
04:20:43monchevique gringos
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04:20:55psycho_maniaci doubt it
04:21:33Mode"#rockbox +b *!?=jimmy@ " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
04:21:40scorchei do too
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04:24:08psycho_maniacwas the discussion of viewports on the forums? ive never known about the development only on the GSOC pages.
04:24:55scorcheit has been all over IRC
04:26:28psycho_maniacprobably when im not on
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04:42:11WeaponXi was here before and someone gave me a link to a site where i can get the MBR for a 5.5g
04:43:44krazykitWeaponX, you could check the IRC logs.
04:44:10WeaponXi dont keep logs
04:44:27krazykitlucky for you rockbox does.
04:45:05WeaponXoh awesome
04:46:10daniel_washereIm attempting to compile rockbox for my iPod Nano, however since im using a later version of gcc (4.1.0+) i need to specify "−−enable-libssp=no" as a configure option.
04:46:23daniel_washereBut it doesnt seem to be working and still fails on compile..
04:46:49WeaponXthank you krazykit
04:46:54scorchedaniel_washere: there are reasons we specify a version as the "recommended version" ;)
04:47:39daniel_washereohh i see :P (heh its been a while?) i guess l`ll have to go remove and install that one.
04:48:00scorchewe have a handy script in svn that will build the crosscompilers for you
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04:49:00daniel_washeresweet, i`ll check it out now. in the tools can find a lot of this sort of dev information by clicking "index" on the sidebar of the site, then "For Developers" in the TOC
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04:50:30daniel_washereAh! thanks :D... one of the SVN checkouts about iPod USB made me want to muck around with rockbox :P
04:51:00scorcheyeah...i recognize you from "a similar project" =P
04:52:13psycho_maniacthe viewport sims: Do they have the wps that uses the viewports code?
04:54:20krazykitthere's the WPS that's attached
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04:55:13psycho_maniacin the sims zip files? or are you talking about in FS
04:56:03krazykitthe flyspray entry. the sims are, presumably, just like the standard sim package you'd download
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06:09:25billeniumHappy New Years from East USA!
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06:10:27countrymonkeywebHappy new year. I just came in to see if moos was on but he apparantly is not.
06:10:37countrymonkeywebI have some news about the patch
06:12:41countrymonkeywebWhy cannot I get in to #rockbox-community?
06:13:01krazykitthat's off-topic.
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06:14:30scorchecountrymonkeyweb: the rockbox irc client is limited to only #rockbox
06:14:57countrymonkeywebI am using irc at work to try. It sais freenode is down, but I know that ain't right.
06:26:17countrymonkeywebIf any of you are on when moos joins and I am not present, can you all tell him that 8369 is ready for committing?
06:32:19billeniumrockbox irc client?
06:33:11billeniumwhat is that?
06:33:57krazykitclick "irc" on
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07:02:07scharkalvinhappy new year everybody!
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07:06:36countrymonkeywebQuestion do you have?
07:08:13countrymonkeywebDo you have a question?
07:11:12billeniumcountrymonkeyweb: English is not your first language?
07:11:41krazykitbillenium, how is that even remotely on-topic?
07:12:22billeniumhow is what you just said on topic? how is what im saying right now on topic?
07:12:43krazykittopicality is on-topic.
07:12:51billeniumAre you sure?
07:13:01billeniumbrb pasta
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07:13:28dmt2i need some help
07:13:56*scorche looks into the crystal ball
07:13:57dmt2does rockbox work with the dock on a stereo
07:14:06scorchethat depends ont he dock
07:14:09dmt2will it take commands
07:14:14dmt2its the one in my car.
07:14:18scorchecommands such as what?
07:14:20dmt2some kind of pioneer head
07:14:21minifig904iPod dock?
07:14:26dmt2came with my car.
07:14:44dmt2i can control the ipod from the stereo/steering wheel
07:14:47scorchedmt2: if it accesses the ipod as a hard drive, then it will work...if it uses the apple accessory protocol, it wont
07:15:06billeniummost use the hard drive i believe
07:15:09dmt2it browses folders on the stereo...
07:15:21dmt2no way rto find out except to ry i guess.
07:15:27scorchepretty much
07:15:38dmt2i hope it works
07:15:45dmt2the stupid stereo fucks up on random...
07:15:56dmt2it gets confused when there are too many songs....
07:16:06dmt2like it cant handle 10000 songs on random...
07:16:15scorchewell, i cant do anything about that, and it is getting offtopic..
07:16:17dmt2it just refuses to start the next song.
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07:16:21dmt2i guess
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07:16:29dmt2i was hoping that rock box might help.
07:17:14minifig904Try it. Let us know.
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07:18:01dmt2you got it.
07:18:07dmt2ill let you know soon enough,
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07:19:06minifig904Hm, the database cache files are binary, aren't they?
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07:38:46minifig904Is the database cache file format documented somewhere? Sorry, I apparently suck at reading C code...
07:39:48minifig904I searched the wiki already, but found nothing.
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08:17:36scorcheteam of one?
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08:30:03csc`lol soap, you could always make a plugin for folding@home, then f@h would have an army of ipods slaving away folding proteins
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10:06:26GodEaterare the forums working at the moment ? I'm getting nothing but a blank page when I try to check them...
10:06:57LloreanWhen I try to check, my browser attempts to download index.php instead of view it
10:07:02LloreanSo no, they're not working properly at the moment.
10:07:12GodEaterah - good - at least it's not just me
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10:08:16LloreanI think it's the old sluggishness, I've gotten this kinda behaviour when it was sluggish back then
10:08:28GodEaterfirst time I've seen it
10:08:50GodEaterit always either no response, or "SMF Encountered problems connecting to the database. Please try later"
10:09:16*GodEater is keen to get home and try out some Viewport goodness
10:10:54GodEateralthough with my PC currently dead, it means compiling on the PS3 =/
10:12:26GodEaterare we still waiting for people to exit 2007? Or are most people in 2008 now ?
10:14:27LloreanI think we're down to people floating in the ocean, mostly?
10:14:49GodEaterhappy new year then guys!
10:14:50scorcheand coral
10:19:53GodEateranyone seen / mentioned this ? ?
10:20:16LloreanI was going to ask about that.
10:20:21LloreanBut hadn't gotten around to reading the logs yet
10:20:50scorchesame...i was planning on reading more into it tomorrow
10:21:04GodEaterI didn't see it on the read through I did of today's stuff
10:21:12GodEaterbut wasn't sure how "new" the /. article was
10:21:20LloreanSame here
10:21:26GodEatermight make an interesting target :)
10:21:30LloreanI'd been at a new years party-ish thing, and just got back, to see it in my reader
10:22:21*GodEater hasn't had any sleep yet since NYE
10:23:35GodEaterthere's the 160GB Rockbox target ppl want :)
10:23:57*scorche already had a 160 GB rockbox target till the hard drive died...
10:24:25GodEaterare they 2.5" drives in these archoses ?
10:24:38LloreanI do find those Archoses interesting doodads.
10:24:42GodEaterI've not seen one of these in the flesh so I've no idea how large they are
10:24:46*scorche would like to get some time for the av300 port so he can play flac on a 160GB player
10:24:48LloreanThey're moderately big
10:24:51LloreanGiant screen on 'em
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10:25:04GodEater2.5" big though ?
10:25:11LloreanCoulda been
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10:25:25LloreanI saw it through glass, so I'm not sure about the thickness and heft.
10:25:41GodEaterI'll have to take myself off to a shop and have a looksee
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10:25:56LloreanGodEater: Looks too thin:
10:26:22GodEaterit does indeed
10:26:46*GodEater 's g/f has just surfaced. Gotta go chaps - speak to you later hopefully. Have a nice day ;)
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11:20:20*pixelma wishes all a Happy New Year
11:20:59csc`hiya pixelma
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12:22:11BigBambiCan I edit my own flyspray comments?
12:22:14markunpixelma: you too!
12:22:47BigBambiOr can anyone edit it for me?
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12:52:19Rukkhquick question, Rockbox supports ID3 v2.4 across the board? and what kind of text encodings UTF8? UTF16? the basic one?
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12:56:52pixelmaBigBambi: I think you can edit your own but if you have trouble let me know...
12:57:06BigBambipixelma: I can't see anywhere to do it
12:58:22BigBambipixelma: My comment on the end of, doesn't need that file attached as it is on the wiki, and I should have said that the WPS I adapted was for gigabeat
12:58:50pixelmahmm... maybe that's something you can't see...
12:59:14BigBambiI have no flyspray rights at all
12:59:29BigBambiJust a normal user, so I guess any sort of editing is out
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13:16:42pixelmasomeone remembers exactly how to deal with the PluginIndex site when adding a new target? Do I remember correctly that it needed adding a new column to the table on there and then editing all the PluginXyz pages (add the new target to the supported list at the end)?
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13:21:10Crash91is sin/cos/tan in c really as simple as doing math.sin?
13:22:40obothe math.* functions are floating point - AFAIK all bar one of the rockbox targets are fixed point only
13:23:14obobut maybe have a look in apps/plugins/lib/fixedpoint.c?
13:24:36Crash91k, will do, im learning C, and well i thought why not contribute to RB in some way :)
13:24:53markunRukkh: UTF-8 and UTF-16 should both be supported
13:25:05markunif it doesn't work it shouldn't be difficult to fix
13:25:18markundid you have any problems with it?
13:28:10Rukkhnot that i know of, I've just spent a few hours convincing my id3 tagger and amarok to play nice such that i could set up a few tags to make my albums work in rockbox
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13:29:00Rukkhi figured i should check that the 2.4 formats did all work properly before i got too carried away
13:29:14hdfdiskI can't connect to forum now, anyone can?
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13:31:16Phoenix_Anybody have a iPod's sncviewer?
13:31:22Phoenix_I can't connect to the forum now
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13:31:47Rukkhnow if only rockbox read the "disc" tag and i could keep all my mulitple cd's in the same dir without track interleaving or renumbering...i'd be very happy - but i suspect i'm just spoilt by my fancy pc players
13:32:00Rukkhhdfdisk, I also had forum access issues
13:32:20hdfdiskRukkh, do you have a ipod sncviewer?
13:32:25Crash91yep its a blank page
13:32:56Rukkhin fact i don't own an ipod, nor know what an sncviewer is
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13:34:09hdfdisksncviewer is a plugin which use for display the lyrics real-time
13:34:28Crash91hdfdisk: why dont you look in the tracker? youll have to compile yourself,
13:34:55hdfdiskcould you tell me how to compile?
13:35:39Crash91hdfdisk: what OS are you using
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13:35:50hdfdiskMac OS X
13:36:07hdfdiskI Also have a Windows PC
13:36:19Crash91hmm, i dont think you can compile on mac
13:37:24Crash91hdfdisk: you would probably be better off using a patched ipod build from someone else on the forums
13:37:35BigBambiYou an compile on Mac just fine
13:37:36Crash91hdfdisk: i know the forums are down, so try
13:38:17hdfdiskOK i'm searching
13:41:35Crash91ok, noob question: whats the big difference between C and C#
13:41:53BigBambiCrash91: You are better off asking google that
13:42:16Crash91google is the answer on everyones lips :)
13:42:38BigBambiIt is off topic here, and would take quite a few (pointless) lines to answer
13:42:59BigBambiGoogle will provide you with a ready made answer
13:43:58markunCrash91: I would say the difference between C and C# is about as big as the one between C and Java
13:46:21Crash91ok, im off to learn C
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14:18:43Crash91i was just reading calculator.c and there is a fully working sci calc do i access it?
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14:22:59Crash91tried the manual, and im not sure, but i think the plugins section for the e200 got wiped:
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14:24:18linuxstbCrash91: Hmm, maybe there's a problem - the Brickmania manual section was changed recently, and that's the last plugin listed...
14:24:31*linuxstb looks at pixelma
14:24:57linuxstbAnd BTW, happy new year to everyone here that's celebrating it.
14:26:32Crash91linuxstb: to you too
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14:34:53pixelmaweird... I testcompiled quite a bit before...
14:35:55pixelmawill have a look of course
14:36:23linuxstbMaybe it's just the e200 - others seem fine...
14:37:15linuxstbYes, it just seems to be the e200 manual - it stops during the brickmania section.
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14:40:20linuxstbAh, does the Sansa have the ButtonScrollFwd and ButtonScrollBack macros?
14:40:40linuxstbThey should be Up/Down...
14:40:59pixelmahmph... probably
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14:45:19countrymonkeywebMoos: I have news about fs#8369
14:48:08countrymonkeywebmoos? Are you here?
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15:09:08preglowlinuxstb: nice to see a viewports implementation :)
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15:10:45countrymonkeywebPreglo, I remember you speak norsk. Could you please verify 8369. I know moos is athe person asigned to the task but I can't get a hold of him.
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15:16:07mooshello there and happy new year
15:16:35preglowcountrymonkeyweb: i will when i have the time, it's on my list
15:16:42mooscountrymonkeyweb: you don't speak norsk yourself ???
15:16:51*amiconn needs to save some IRAM on archos somehow :/
15:17:01preglowamiconn: why?
15:17:42amiconnI now have a core function for my new greyscale lib, but when compiling it in, it exceeds IRAM space by 36 bytes
15:18:02amiconnThat functions *needs* to be in iram
15:18:04preglowoptimize it :-)
15:18:18amiconnIt already is optimised
15:18:35amiconnSo I need to cut somewhere else
15:18:36preglowyeah, i kind of expected it was, heh
15:18:57*moos isn't suprised neither :)
15:18:59countrymonkeywebNo way. I took it up as a little thing. It doesn't take very much skill to copy over the dest string into the voice string. I took it up because I had time to kill.
15:19:08preglowBuschel: have you hooked your ipod up to an amperemeter now?
15:19:26amiconnI even found a very slight optimisation for the existing lcd_write_data() function
15:19:29Buschelpreglow: no. but I need test support by someone who has :o)
15:20:23mooscountrymonkeyweb: better to lets a native speaker check the patch first
15:20:32preglowBuschel: don't think too many have :P how did you find the power consumption, then?
15:20:55Buschelpreglow: runtime tests and calculating then
15:21:00countrymonkeywebO.K. Moos: Do you speak norsk?
15:21:06Buschelpreglow: quite time consuming...
15:21:19mooscountrmonkeyweb: not that I know of ;)
15:21:46Buschelanyone here who is deep into the freq-scaling stuff?
15:21:56countrymonkeyweb midg
15:22:40preglowBuschel: i can imagine...
15:22:54preglowBuschel: i know how it works, why?
15:23:23countrymonkeywebLooks like we need either mukkurkalve or preglo to check it.
15:23:34Buschelpreglow: why is DEV_TIMING1 set two time when setting FREQ_MAX? first to x303 afterwards to x808.
15:24:59amiconn(the slight optimisation only speeds things up by ~1.2% - but it also saves an instruction in iram)
15:25:01pixelmaif someone sees a "swede" around today (Bagder_?), maybe ask if he can trigger a rebuild of the manuals. The e200 should compile alright now - at least it did here...
15:25:04Buschelpreglow: it came with change #15134
15:25:34preglowBuschel: hmm, i haven't seen that before
15:25:49amiconnBuschel: Iirc that's for stability - best ask jhMikeS
15:25:49countrymonkeywebWhat do you mean by a Swede?
15:26:27mooscountrymonkeyweb: for your patch, better to provide a .diff or .patch file, instead of the full .lang file
15:26:28Buschelamiconn: thanks. is he the one who did the main stuff in the scaling?
15:26:39pixelmacountrymonkeyweb: one of the site admins
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15:27:14amiconnThe first part was done by me. Then jhMikeS fixed some further problems which popped up during his scheduler work
15:27:49Buschelso I may ask you as well :o)
15:27:53preglowthe first part was done by me from the ipl source, afaik
15:27:56countrymonkeywebI thought you ment a swede like a person of the nationality of Sweedish. And moos, I couldn't get the silly thing to patch.
15:28:18Buschelpreglow/amiconn: so, two experst around - perfect!
15:28:27preglownot exactly an expert...
15:29:32pixelmacountrymonkeyweb: well... the admins are from (and in) Sweden...
15:29:34BigBambicountrymonkeyweb: He did
15:29:37preglowhmm, i could have sworn there was some MrH doc around describing some of those registers...
15:29:48BigBambipixelma: Beaten again!
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15:30:07countrymonkeywebI didn't know that.
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15:30:21luckzforums down?
15:30:33Buschelyesterday I tried to use 24MHz without PLL as "normal" and keep the 80MHz as "max" clock. I wanted to check what influence (in terms of power consumption) the PLL has. after doing so the unit freezed after ~1h...
15:31:20pixelmaBigBambi: if you mean me, it should have been "she did" though ;)
15:31:50BigBambipixelma: I know, but I couldn't remember who originally said Swede so I took a punt
15:31:55BigBambiand lost :/
15:31:56Buscheland 1h is not enough to estimate the power consumption...
15:33:49countrymonkeywebWe cannot see you through the irc! We have to sort of guess at these things.
15:35:06countrymonkeywebPlease cut some slack. (Maybe I am just mad because I was kicked from #rockbox-community for hating icecream and pizza a few days ago)
15:35:20lassesdatamaskinlol :P
15:35:49countrymonkeywebWhat are you laughing about?
15:36:52lassesdatamaskinyou being kicked from rockbox-community for hating icecream and pizza
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15:37:33countrymonkeywebTHere is nothing funny about it. And after that, they wanted to celebrate me being kicked.
15:38:53countrymonkeywebAnd I do hate icecream and pizza!
15:39:09BigBambicountrymonkeyweb: This is off topic, but it was a humorous kick, a *gasp* joke. You can go back in anytime you like.
15:39:09idnardid tehy have icecreame and pizza to celebrate?
15:41:26*amiconn found that MAXTHREADS can be cut by one on archos :)
15:41:33countrymonkeywebAnd they did have icecream, iirc.
15:41:52soapcountrymonkeyweb, please remain on topic in this logged channel.
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16:34:47ompaulafkscorche, did you get sorted?
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16:36:58soapBigBambi, did you get viewports v4 to compile for the gigabeat?
16:37:03soapI can not.
16:37:09BigBambisoap v4.2
16:37:31BigBambilinuxstb put it on his website yesterday, but he hasn't attached it to flyspray yet
16:37:41BigBambiI forgot to mention that on the wiki
16:37:44soapok, I used 4.1
16:37:56BigBambione mo, I'll find it
16:38:11BigBambican I dcc you?
16:38:18soap`I'm passive
16:38:26soapbut other that than, it's ok
16:38:41BigBambiI'll try (I don't know whether it works this end either)
16:38:45soapso I think you will need to be in active mode.
16:39:03linuxstbIt's at
16:39:09BigBambithere we gp
16:39:20BigBambithat is easier!
16:40:47soaplinuxstb, what is the difference with 4.2? Just a fix for gigabeat, or should I remake all my builds?
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16:41:03linuxstbJust the gigabeat target fix.
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16:41:34linuxstbBTW, are rasher's sim builds OK? There were some reports on flyspray that they didn't work.
16:42:28soapI haven't tried, I haven't had much time, I just wanted to get the word out there and make some builds for those unable/unwilling to make their own.
16:44:29linuxstbDoes anyone have any opinion about whether the new "official" site should still have an area for themes using patched builds? IIUC, the two main features that are still outstanding are multi-fonts and the custom list position, but the latter should be implementable after viewports (drawing lists inside a viewport, rather than full-screen).
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16:44:55linuxstbI would really like to stop the proliferation of themes that don't work with official builds...
16:46:28BigBambiI'm not sure. The trouble is that rather than being a testbed for patches, as soon as the functionality is achieved people don't bother to try and get them SVN ready
16:46:49BigBambiBut I think viewports and album art where the two big ones
16:47:51BigBambiI agree that it would be much easier not to have themes that need unofficial builds
16:48:53soaplinuxstb, while I agree 100% with the desire to stomp out themes which don't work with SVN builds, I think the bigger question is "If Rockbox attempts to prevent custom builds - will they just pull a total fork and not come back into 'the fold'?"
16:50:13soapPersonally, I don't think any of the custom build makers have enough dedication to maintain a full fork, so I think if Rockbox stops "supporting" them (as it does through Rockbox-Themes) they will eventually wither and die.
16:50:24linuxstbI've no problem with custom builds, it's just the issue of themes...
16:50:26soapThough, look at all the custom builds on MysticRiver.
16:50:49BigBambiI would say most custom builds are to support fancier themes though
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16:51:27BigBambiI can't really see how we say you can have the ustom builds but not the themes that use the patches in the custom builds
16:51:31soapwell, BigBambi, most of the ones on are, but many of the other ones (mysticriver) are recording and other based.
16:51:47BigBambisoap: OK, I haven't visited any of those in many moons
16:52:04soapbut, linuxstb, you're right, I did kind of dodge the heart of your question.
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16:53:20soapI guess, linuxstb, thinking about your original question - It would probably solve much confusion if neither Rockbox nor Rockbox-Themes (the two "official" sites) had anything but themes which worked with stock rockbox.
16:53:32soapPerhaps a compromise, though.
16:54:07soapPatches which are deemed "on the path to inclusion" would be allowd to have themes in a special (clearly marked) section?
16:55:41linuxstbI think the only missing patch is multi-font, so if we stopped hosting themes that required patches _and_ told the patch writers what was needed for multi-font to be accepted, then hopefully it will get done.
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17:03:07soaphmm, 4.2 is failing for me on Gigabeat as well.
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17:03:38soapmaybe there is something else I need to do for my build environment other than ./
17:05:22linuxstbWhere is it failing?
17:08:00linuxstbThat's the same error BigBambi had - you've multiple copies of the code in test_viewports.c (bad patching...)
17:08:35linuxstbhint: "svn revert" doesn't touch files not added to svn...
17:08:41BigBambisoap: yeah, I had that. Just delete test_viewports.c then revert, then patch
17:09:33soapahh, thank you
17:12:44Crash91linuxstb: its not only multifont, theres custom line and bmp scale
17:12:58BigBambiCrash91: What does custom line do?
17:13:17BigBambiThe name sounds to me very much like viewports will replace it
17:13:25Crash91i think it lets you specify custom coordinates for the text to appear
17:13:37soapwhich viewports addresse
17:13:42BigBambiSo viewports will do that better then
17:13:43soapaddresses even
17:14:41soapbmp resize is a known want - a workaround (cover.<width>x<height>.bmp) was included with album art to hold people over until such time as it is finished.
17:15:09BigBambiCrash91: Viewports does that (without the multifont dependency)
17:15:27Crash91BigBambi: Even different colours?
17:15:33BigBambiCrash91: Yes
17:15:49BigBambiCrash91: Perhaps you ought to read about viewports before commenting?
17:16:05soapand viewports will scroll, custom line doesn't.
17:16:06Crash91i did, and i understood very little :P
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18:18:14YippMNis there any channel to ask questions about installing rockbox on sansa e260?
18:19:20Crash91YippMN: See the manual
18:19:30YippMNjust have a question in the manual , abotu where to extract the files, it says on the foot , is that just the main folder that holds all the folders such a music and such ?
18:19:57Crash91YippMN: the root is the folder with MUSIC, PHOTO , VIDEO....etc. in your sansa
18:20:30Crash91YippMN: so if youre using winzip/rar click the icon of your sansa in the window and hit extract
18:21:33YippMNCrash91, ahh ok thats what i was figuring ok just wanted to make sure i was thinking right :)
18:22:03YippMNCrash91, and btw i'm working in gentoo linux and using ark :)
18:23:11Crash91ok cool
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18:28:49YippMNCrash91, do you know of a channel for sandisk or sansa e260, or is this just the best spot for anything to do with the e260 and rockbox
18:29:30Crash91YippMN: assuming this is #rockbox, i would guess it might just be remotely related to rockbox
18:30:29YippMNCrash91, heh well yes:p just was wondering if there mite be a channel of sansa owners also :)
18:30:42minifig904YippMN: unlike gentoo, most projects don't have platform specific channels.
18:31:03minifig904if they do, they're usually listed on the website
18:31:04Crash91freenode is only for OS software projects AFAIK
18:31:25minifig904sh we cheat
18:31:26YippMNsounds good tnx
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18:44:26[Morph3us]i had a query regarding this
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18:45:21[Morph3us]can i use the proggy by connecting my laptop hdd to a ata->usb converter and then running the proggy from within windows ?
18:45:28[Morph3us]anyone awake ?
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18:46:51linuxstb[Morph3us]: Check the date at the bottom of that page... No-one is still around who knows anything more than what that wiki page says - that was only an issue in the very early Rockbox days.
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18:54:44ze[Morph3us]: there's only DOS or linux unlockers there, the DOS one requires a real ata connection (not usb, those archos' were already usb drives yet those instructions say you must remove the drive and hook it up directly to ide)
18:55:06ze[Morph3us]: and then the linux version is a hack on the driver for the particular usb-ide controller in those archos models
18:57:22*linuxstb reverts his previous comment
18:58:12zelinuxstb: nah, i didn't say anything thats not already indicated on that page :p
18:58:21*linuxstb unreverts then ;)
18:59:19zewell, aside from my risidual knowledge of them old archos' providing a bit of context
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19:18:45Guest8191hi there!
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19:19:12Guest8191i got an archos iriver h340 with
19:19:16Guest8191broken hd
19:19:27|elppa|I love ROckbox, and I love giving other people Rockbox, especially because it's pretty much just flat-out better than Apple's proprietary firmware
19:19:58linuxstbGuest8191: Have you read this page?
19:20:00|elppa|Therefore when there's a new development in Apple's offerings that Rockbox doesn't (at least to my knowledge) have, then I get especially interested/concerned
19:20:06|elppa|Cover Flow
19:20:26|elppa|Is there any movement in Rockbox to recreate the "Cover Flow" effect of the new iPods?
19:20:28linuxstbHave you seen Rockbox's "picture flow" plugin?
19:20:34|elppa|Or to display album art at all?
19:20:36|elppa|No I haven't.
19:20:42|elppa|My iPod is monochrome
19:20:43Guest8191I am thinking about bying a new one (toshiba mk4004gah) but i am not sure whether it is formatted properly.
19:20:52linuxstbRockbox can display album-art as well...
19:21:10|elppa|linuxstb: So Picture Flow is available on all colour iPods?
19:21:12Guest8191is rockbox able to format hard discs?
19:21:12linuxstbNo ipods are monochrome - they're 4-shade greyscale.
19:21:21|elppa|Or just video (5th gen) iPods?
19:21:33|elppa|Aye, well I have a 4-shade greyscale 4th generation.
19:21:34pixelmabut no picture flow on greyscale players (yet) but album art for the WPS works
19:21:42linuxstbI'm not sure about picture flow, but album-art is shown on both greyscale and colour LCDs.
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19:22:14|elppa|linuxstb: Okay well you brought up the existence of Picture Flow...what can you say about it? Have you used it?
19:22:44soapGuest8191, you don't need Rockbox to format your new hard drive, if you have access to Windows you can use iTunes to "restore" the new hard drive.
19:22:48linuxstbGuest8191: No, but there is no need. You just replace the disk in the device, and format it from your computer (assuming you've installed the Rockbox bootloader).
19:23:08linuxstbsoap: itunes can restore an iriver h340? ;)
19:23:08Guest8191linuxstb: sounds easy
19:23:34Guest8191yes, the bootloader is already in
19:23:50soaplinuxstb, oh lord, I got |elppa| confused with Guest8191. I'm sorry Guest8191
19:23:52linuxstb|elppa|: No, I haven't used it.
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19:24:40pit_soap: should be easyer now ;-)
19:24:41linuxstb|elppa|: Just try it - it's included in current Rockbox builds...
19:25:16pixelmalinuxstb: but not on his...
19:25:19linuxstb|elppa|: I take that back, it doesn't work on your ipod... You could try a simulator though
19:25:27linuxstbpixelma: I just remembered that ;)
19:25:36pit_i hope the harddisc i'm going to buy via ebay will work ...
19:27:04linuxstbpit_: The only problem is that the built-in Windows formatting program refuses to format FAT disks > 32GB. So you'll need a third-party tool to format it.
19:27:19linuxstb(assuming you're using Windows0
19:27:30pit_linuxstb: what about my debian machine?
19:27:40linuxstbNo problem there.
19:28:25linuxstbIt's just an arbitrary restriction MS imposed, to try to make people switch to using NTFS.
19:29:29pit_a friend of mine sold the h340 to me and a very short time after that it felt down and the hd was broken ...
19:29:34*amiconn 's greyscale function is so optimised that it cannot work :(
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19:32:42linuxstbamiconn: I've got a problem with 2bpp displays and viewports - how to statically initialise the values of the fg/bg_pattern variables in the viewport declarations in apps code?
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19:49:45gnoobWould something like the sansa c250 be a worthwhile investment? Rockbox would allow it to use an SDHC card when I decide that 2gigs is not enough?
19:49:51zehey you guys see the archos 605 wifi bit on /.? exploit discovered to execute arbitrary code
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19:50:46BigBambignoob: Yes, rockbox supports SDHC
19:50:59BigBambignoob: But you need a V1 - v" doesn't work with rockbox
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19:52:44gnoobBigBambi, how can I tell if it's v1 or v2
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19:54:04BigBambignoob: It is difficult before you buy
19:54:14BigBambiIf it is advertised as haveing Audible support, it is a v2
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19:54:24BigBambiBut even if it doesn't say that it may be
19:54:29salty-horsehi. any sansa user? a revision somewhere between 15700 and HEAD (will locate the exact revision soon) causes a crash on playback. was wondering if others see it too.
19:54:53oboBigBambi: my c250 listed Audible support, but is a v1
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19:55:07BigBambiobo: gnoob Which then makes it even harder :)
19:55:36oboI was hoping to get a v2 to have a play :)
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19:56:41gnoobaudible meaning
19:57:10gnoobnewegg has it for 50 bucks.
19:57:19gnoobseems reasonable.
19:57:44BigBambignoob: No way to tell from that
19:58:04advcomp2019gnoob, the easiest what is the firmware
19:58:38gnoobyeah, but if I don't own it yet.
19:58:53BigBambiIt is easy enough to tell if you have it
19:58:59BigBambiBut very difficult before
19:59:34gnoobsomone in the reviews said that they loaded rockbox but probably can't count on that either.
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20:00:02BigBambignoob: Yeah, who knows which you will be sent
20:00:34gnoobIs V2 just a firmware update?
20:00:49Crash91gnoob: nope, total HW change
20:01:43Crash91eh, its the same v1/v2 shit with sansas AND microSDs now
20:02:08gnoobFor all the sansa models, c200, e200 and e200R, they all have a V2 that you have to watch for?
20:02:41BigBambiindeed so
20:02:57gnoobI like the idea of the sansa because the price seems reasonable and the SD slot.
20:03:27BigBambignoob: Yeah, it is attractive, but annoying since the new versions
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20:06:49gnoobHas the new version been around for a while or is there still a decent chance of finding the v1?
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20:08:50advcomp2019gnoob, you might find v1 since it seems like the v2 started to pop out sometime in december tho
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20:11:20gnoobthanks for the insight everyone.
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20:13:01alienbiker99hmmm arcwelder for archos. maybe a start to rockbox ports?
20:17:37GodEateralready mentioned it much much earlier today alienbiker99 ;)
20:19:01alienbiker99haha sorry, really really long night
20:19:41GodEaterno idea what became of it though
20:19:50GodEaterI had to logout pretty much as soon as I'd seen it
20:20:11GodEaterso possibly worth reading the logs from around 9am this morning ?
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20:28:58picard_pwns_kirkdoes Rockbox support video playback?
20:30:20BigBambipicard_pwns_kirk: See the PluginMpegplayer wiki page
20:30:21picard_pwns_kirkeven on nano 1st gen?
20:30:25BigBambipicard_pwns_kirk: yes
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20:31:35Crash91picard_pwns_kirk: picard most certainly doesnt
20:31:53picard_pwns_kirkCrash91: I beg to differ
20:32:09BigBambiOn topic
20:32:09krazykitkeep in mind that this is an on-topic channel
20:32:44Gnu47I'm with picard_pwns_kirk :P
20:33:14*BigBambi shouts on topi and points at #rockbox-community
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20:42:43BigBambipixelma: Damn you! My "c" key is all sticky
20:43:34BigBambiIt isn't my fault!
20:44:18*GodEater wonders what BigBambi has been doing to get his c key all sticky
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20:46:18countrymonkeywebObo: Could you tell me how your script in task #6360 works and how to use it? I need a "redneck" lang file.
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20:51:35obocountrymonkeyweb: if I remember... the first parameter is the path to the lang file, and the second is the path to the talk filter executable
20:52:48countrymonkeywebWhat is the talk filter excecutable? Is it the .c file?
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20:53:30oboit's the compiled talk filter (the web link in the task)
20:53:42countrymonkeywebHold on a sec.
20:53:42oboas in you'd need to download that tarball and compile them
20:54:52countrymonkeywebDo you still have the precompiled ones. I have no compiler.
20:55:17obobut it was a very quick and dirty hack, and I'm not sure if it works after the lang v2 change
20:55:44countrymonkeywebDo you have the excecutable ones handy?
20:56:24krazykitcountrymonkeyweb, then install a compiler, geez.
20:56:26countrymonkeywebDo you know what compiler I use?
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20:56:56Crash91countrymonkeyweb: how would we know?
20:56:57countrymonkeywebWill cygwin cut it?
20:57:26countrymonkeywebI am talking to obo. He has done it before.
20:57:36krazykitcountrymonkeyweb, cygwin is not the compiler. if you have a dev environment, you have gcc, thus you have a compiler
20:58:12krazykitcountrymonkeyweb, at some point, take the initiative and use google sometime. you can't have your hand held through every little step like you seem to think you can.
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21:07:47KleviHi all ... is there a way to theme the statusbar outside of the WPS? as is, while menu surfing?
21:08:09BigBambiNot at this time
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21:08:23BigBambiIn fact, you can't theme the statusbar in the WPS eith atm
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21:08:37BigBambiYou an just turn it off and make your own
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21:11:30KleviAnyway, yeah like I was saying. Im currently using a themed Statusbar on the WOP
21:11:46ompaulscorche, ping
21:12:10KleviUpdated rockbox on my C200 yesterday
21:12:19BigBambiKlevi: No, you have made your own icons
21:12:29BigBambiThe status bar remains as ever it was
21:12:41KleviOh oh.. okay
21:13:02BigBambiI know it may seem a silly distinction, but in a technical project it is important to be accurate
21:13:14KleviYeah, didnt know
21:13:17Klevi^^ thanks
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21:38:25KleviWhy does my sansa crash when I plug in USB while Rockbox is running
21:38:46Klevithe bootloader doesnt popup anymore
21:46:54krazykitKlevi, you're using the latest build and the latest bootloader?
21:47:18krazykitand by latest bootloader, i mean installed with the most recent official sansapatcher
21:48:24bertrikKlevi, I get the same, it seems reboot doesn't always work correctly
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21:49:17Klevibertrik: Your players screen goes black with keylights on still as well?
21:49:35krazykitKlevi, if it isn't responding, hold the power button for 15 or so seconds
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21:50:00bertriklast time I got it, I just get a kind of striped screen, but the backlight does not turn off
21:50:02Klevibut, its fixable by reboting once you rmove the battery
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21:51:39bertrikwhat does the bootloader have to do with it?
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21:53:56Klevito load the OF and use USB rockbox reboots the player
21:57:06bertrikKlevi: for me it reboots maybe only half the time
21:57:35bertrikcan you check something for me, just after a reboot?
21:58:18Klevimine doesnt reboot correctly
21:58:20Kleviat all
21:58:26KleviIhave to turn off the player
21:58:31Kleviboot the OF myself
21:58:35Klevithen plug in USB
22:02:27bertrikI made a patch to fix some issues (bugs IMO) in the sansa reboot procedure, you can find it here:
22:04:41bertrikKlevi: can't you just turn off your sansa and then plug in USB to wake it up in OF? that would at least save some time avoiding the OF database rebuild
22:05:07KleviI crash the same way
22:06:46bertrikok, that's odd
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22:30:08major_worksDoes anyone know whether Viewports will eventually perform .bmp resizing?
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22:31:43krazykitviewports won't. a resizing algorhythm in the core would.
22:32:07major_worksOK... so does anyone know of anyone working in that direction?
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22:34:00major_worksI saw a comment earlier by linuxstb about wanting to stop the proliferation of themes that conflict with the official builds. Getting .bmp resizing working would probably go a long way toward achieving that.
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22:35:31major_worksI wish I knew how to do that. I would if I could.
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22:38:20linuxstbDoes the bmp resize patch actually change the wps tags?
22:38:45major_worksI hope you're not asking me!
22:39:31linuxstbYou're implied that it does.
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22:40:10major_worksI do compile my own builds and used to incorporate all the stuff that the "eye-candy lovers" on ABi like. With the closure of some of the patches coupled with the recent changes in SVN, it's become too difficult for this non-programmer to get everything working.
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22:40:47krazykitlinuxstb, i believe it adds some places in the image lines for what size it should be
22:41:01major_worksSo I went back to straight SVN and just added your Viewports patch. Now some themes work, and some don't, but what doesn't work even in the ones that display album art is that .bmps are not resized.
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22:41:40major_worksI didn't mean to imply anything about the .bmp resize patch changing tags. I really don't know if it does or not.
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22:43:34linuxstbMy question is just whether the same theme will work on a build with bmp resize and without bmp resize. I realise the user needs different album-art bmp files depending on the build.
22:45:29major_worksI'd have to do a lot of scratching around to figure out the answer to your question. I just know that I used to make up my own builds with all those fudgy patches (customline, multifont, bmpresize, etc.) and that lots of themes worked great. But it just got too difficult for me to make the patches work.
22:46:13major_worksNow, with your Viewports patch as the only one in my current build that has anything whatsoever to do with WPSs, some work, and some don't.
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22:46:39Lloreanlinuxstb: If a theme uses "bmp resize", in a current build, it will look for a pre-resized image with those dimensions in its filename
22:46:40major_worksShould I try using the Viewports patch *and* the old bmpresize patch and see how that works?
22:46:56LloreanSo for example if it's supposed to resize to 100x100, I *think* it'll look for cover.100x100.bmp
22:47:01LloreanOr some filename *like* that
22:47:25LloreanI can't remember the exact filename it looks for, but the "look for a pre-sized image" tag in current svn is identical (if I recall) to the old resize tag.
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22:49:23Bagdersalty-horse: fsck.vfat is unfortunately not very good
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22:49:35BagderI've had problems it couldn't fix
22:49:52major_worksLlorean: I really don't understand how the bmpresize patch works... but are you saying that it would ordinarily rename .bmp files? If that's so, I wasn't aware of it.
22:49:52WeaponXhappy new year everyone :)
22:50:33Bagdersalty-horse: and I've been upgrading every now and then recently with no playback problems at all
22:50:54BigBambimajor_works: No, he isn't saying that
22:50:58salty-horseBagder, hmm, ok. I'll report back once I locate the revision that causes the playback crash (this weekend)
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22:51:18Lloreanmajor_works: No, it wouldn't
22:51:28BigBambiWith how album art works in svn, if you tell it that album art is 100x100, it will first look for cover.100x100.bmp
22:51:43Lloreanmajor_works: Basically, the tag for "resize cover.bmp to 100x100" in bmpresize builds is the same tag as "look for cover.100x100.bmp" in official builds
22:51:54BigBambiIf it cannot find a correct size it will either crop or centre another available one in a different size
22:52:02BigBambiIt doesn't do any resizing at all
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22:52:48BigBambiAnd for the resize patch, it does what Llorean said :)
22:52:56major_worksOK. What I'm finding now with a build using current SVN + the Viewports patch is that it doesn't center the images. It seems to start from the top left corner and fill the available image space with whatever fits from that point.
22:53:16BigBambimajor_works: Did you tell it to do it centered?
22:53:43major_worksWhere would I tell it to center the images? In the .wps files?
22:53:51soapisn't that how album art has always worked? Or am I mistaken in that? I'll be honest, I've never tried loading a sub-sized .bmp.
22:53:55BigBambimajor_works: Yes
22:54:16major_worksI'll have to play around with some and see how that works. Thanks very much for the tip.
22:54:22BigBambisoap: It'll put it where you tell it. I'm not sure what the default is if you don't
22:54:28Lloreansoap: I think he's saying it crops oversized ones
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22:54:47LloreanBut it sounds like things are "working as intended, which may not be the same as what you expect" :)
22:54:52major_worksYes, that's right. It crops oversized ones. Most of my ,bmps are 160 x 160 or more.
22:55:14*Llorean wonders if there's still work going into that newer resize alternative
22:55:22BigBambiThis is indeed working as intended
22:55:31major_worksI'm sure it's working "as intended." What I'd like or expect, maybe not, but as a non-programmer, I'm at your collective mercy.
22:55:52BigBambimajor_works: That isn't to say it is completed
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22:56:05BigBambiEveryone who works on rockbox does it for free in their spare time
22:56:05major_worksI'm very much aware of that.
22:56:30major_worksI'm aware of that, too, and believe me, I appreciate all the work everyone has done. I'd give you all a big raise if I could.
22:57:25major_worksI'm in the unfortunate position of being caught in the middle in a way. I know enough to be dangerous to myself, but unfortunately, not enough to contribute to fixing all this stuff.
22:57:26soapI, personally, don't see a point in recentering, assuming resize gets added eventually.
22:57:30WeaponXdoes anyone know of a software that makes it easier to tag video files on ipod? itunes reallly limits the tagging because it doesnt let you select more than one video file to edit
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22:57:49krazykitWeaponX, that is not rockbox related.
22:57:54WeaponXoh ok
22:58:08BigBambiSure, once resizing is in position (centre or otherwise) is meaningless
22:58:10WeaponXwell can you direct me to where i might find that information :S
22:58:13major_worksWell, that was one thing I'd asked... is resizing ever going to be added?
22:58:15krazykitWeaponX, google
22:58:28WeaponXhaha thought you were gonna say that
22:58:30BigBambimajor_works: If someone writes it correctly, yes
22:58:35WeaponXthanks anywayzs
22:58:50major_worksAlways an "if..." Sure thing.
22:59:06*soap is willing to bet it will happen, and before 2009
22:59:13BigBambimajor_works: It is all what people want to work on, not what you want them to work on
22:59:20major_worksLike I said earlier, I wish I knew how myself.
22:59:35Lloreanmajor_works: Well how can someone say "Yes" if we don't know whether someone will create an acceptable implementation?
22:59:35BigBambiWhy should someone spend their free time coding a feature they don't want for you
22:59:41major_worksYep. Llorean has reminded the ABi folks of that recently in his inimitable fashion. :-)
23:00:05major_worksGuys... not here to argue about anything at all. Please don't take it that way!
23:00:20BigBambiThere is always an if for a very good reason
23:00:28major_worksI don't want anyone to code anything for me specifically. If it happens, great, and I'll wait until it does. I have no choice.
23:00:37bertrikresizing isn't so hard i would think
23:00:41BigBambimajor_works: The choice is to learn
23:01:03Lloreanbertrik: Resizing that looks nice, with an acceptable memory footprint, on the other hand, is slightly more complex. ;)
23:01:24bertrikok, so we first need a definition of "correctly" and "acceptable"
23:01:30major_worksYou're right. Time is always the issue. It'd be yet another hobby. I don't do coding for a living as I suspect some of the devs do.
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23:02:24BigBambimajor_works: Sure, and it'd be quiker for someone who already knows how to did it than you learn, but how they use their time is up to them
23:02:33peppoI keep getting double entries in my playlist, and it's not because of .Trash entries and such. I copy my music to my ipod video using rhythmbox, it works in ipod "mode"...
23:02:39Lloreanbertrik: I believe we already have one. "Looks Good" is of course subjective, but the idea was *I think* to resize in place when loading it into the buffer while buffering audio, so that the resize doesn't need to permanently use any non-buffer memory
23:03:17major_worksYou're absolutely correct and I cannot argue that point one bit. Not trying to, either.
23:03:22Lloreanpeppo: Save a copy of your playlist and pastebin it then?
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23:03:42bertrikLlorean: ok thanks
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23:04:05major_worksThanks for the input. I'll play with .wps files for centering. Happy New Year to all!
23:04:11peppoLlorean, tcds
23:04:12Lloreanbertrik: The real sticking point, I *think*, is that it should have as absolutely minimal impact on non-album-art users as possible.
23:04:27Lloreanpeppo: No, TCDs are your database, not your playlist. Did you mean your database?
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23:04:39peppoLlorean, ah yes, sorry.
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23:04:58peppoLlorean, most of my albums have double entries that contain the exact same path of a file
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23:08:48linuxstbpeppo: Have you tried deleting the .tcd files and rebuilding the database?
23:09:00peppolinuxstb, yup
23:09:04peppoI will attempt it again
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23:10:23JdGordonhey linuxstb
23:10:35JdGordondone anything more with vps? or been out partying?
23:11:31linuxstbI've done a little - I've got the lcd-remote-2bit-vi.c driver working, but am not happy about how the fg/bg patterns are dealt with.
23:11:47JdGordonwhats the prob?
23:12:49amiconnlinuxstb: Why not just store the fg and bg *colours* in the viewport struct, and not the pattern?
23:13:23amiconnThat means recalculating the pattern when switching viewports, but that shouldn't be a big problem
23:13:42linuxstbJdGordon: In the 16-bit (colour) driver, the apps code passes fg/bg colour to the LCD driver in the same format the driver uses internally (16-bit rgb565). In the greyscale drivers, the driver stores it internally in a different format to that passed to set_back/foreground (and converts it back with get_back/foreground).
23:14:17amiconnAre those get_* functions used anywhere?
23:14:29linuxstbamiconn: Yes, that could work... If the apps code changes the colour, it would just need to call set_viewport again.
23:14:52JdGordonwhy? do the recalculate after a colour change also
23:15:50amiconnIt's basically just a table lookup, as the patterns are precalculated
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23:16:23JdGordondid anyone have comments on my dev-ml email?
23:16:24amiconnHmm, no it's not
23:16:34amiconnBut the caluclation isn't difficult
23:17:20amiconnAnd it could be changed into a lookup.
23:17:58linuxstbJdGordon: I'm currently without email, so can't reply to the list, but I didn't really understand what you want to achieve. I also think you may be over-estimating how much viewports will help you do it.
23:18:13amiconnIn fact the 2 bit remote driver uses a lookup. The 2 bit main lcd drivers don't (yet)
23:18:19JdGordonthats all very probable :p
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23:20:20JdGordonI;m going to have a play today... but acually, I dont think what I want to do isnt possible
23:20:29peppohm, a confused question here: is it possible to be playing all random tracks from a playlist and then just selectively continuing playing from the album a song is from?
23:20:30JdGordonit just requires a bit of work to do it
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23:22:43amiconnJdGordon: The question is not only whether it's possible, but also whether it makes sense
23:23:08JdGordononly on the larger screens..
23:23:26linuxstbpeppo: Enable the "follow playlist" option in the settings, and then when you are listing to a track, press "select" to go to the file browser, and you'll be in the folder for that album. Then just press select again, and you'll be playing a new playlist of just that album.
23:23:27amiconnWhat is 'large' in that respect?
23:23:50*amiconn thinks JdGordon is trying to overengineer things.
23:23:54amiconnBy far.
23:23:55JdGordonnot sure.
23:23:56linuxstbJdGordon: For example, do you want both a menu and wps onscreen at the same time, and be able to move focus between the two?
23:24:21JdGordonno.. I said that in the email didnt I? you cant change focus or things mess up
23:24:36linuxstbThen you don't need a window manager IMO.
23:24:46JdGordonbut I would like to have some wps on the screen when the menubrpowser is up
23:25:03JdGordonand I dont want to limit it to only certain screen combos
23:25:20peppolinuxstb, hm, thanks. but can't find the follow playlist option. is it in the context for Playlists or in Settings somewhere?
23:25:52linuxstbpeppo: In the settings somewhere... Maybe "file view"
23:26:14peppoah yes, thanks
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23:27:46peppoI also wonder, is there a faster way to play _all songs_ randomly, without creating a playlist (instead I'd like something "live")?
23:28:18peppo'cuz right now, going into <All tracks> in root, takes a lot of time when it's searching (have ~5k tracks)
23:28:32saratogaBuschel: (for the logs) I can take current measurements on my Sansa if you like, but it will be at least a few days before I'm back with my equipment
23:28:36csc`like a dynamic playlist peppo?
23:28:46csc`those would be nice
23:29:29peppolinuxstb, unfortunately that doesn't work for me. do I need to reboot?
23:30:03linuxstbAh, you're using the database? I don't think that feature works in the database, so ignore me....
23:30:52peppoI am. is there a way to not use database? file system access? that wouldn't work here though, since all music I have is copied to the iPod file structure
23:30:59amiconn'Follow playlist' only works for the file browser (and even that is *
23:31:05linuxstbJdGordon: So you don't think that a fully customisable "status bar" able to draw anywhere on the screen will do what you want?
23:31:12amiconnstill* broken since the wps tokenizer went in)
23:32:16csc`how many devs work on rockbox total?
23:34:27JdGordonlinuxstb: it possibly would, but thats still limited, and unless im misunderstanindg, I dont like having the wps control the statusbar
23:34:31JdGordoncsc`: lots
23:34:50linuxstbHow would that be the wps controlling the statusbar?
23:34:55csc`vague but ok :p
23:35:12JdGordonlinuxstb: ok, so maybe i misunderstood how you wanted to do it
23:35:22JdGordoncsc`: i tihnk the last count had 60 odd commiters or something
23:35:29linuxstbYou mean that the wps code/parser shouldn't be reused to draw the statusbar?
23:35:47JdGordonno, im fine with that
23:35:47*csc` waits silently for 3rd generation nanos
23:36:10saratogacsc`: hope you're a young man
23:36:31csc`saratoga: might be :P
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