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| 00:03:13 | Buschel | I'll just let the runtime measurement finish this night and see whether there is at least a minor saving... will be <1mA then :( |
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| 00:09:16 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The greylib reinit when showing/hiding the WVS/OSD looks a bit weird. |
| 00:09:49 | amiconn | Would it be sufficient to allow clipping the lower border of the overlay, or do we need full clipping capability? |
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| 00:11:53 | farcry15 | hello? |
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| 00:13:47 | shotofadds | I'm trying to put together a patch for my initial work on the D2 port, anyone know how to get new files to show up in svn diff output? |
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| 00:14:05 | Bagder | svn add them first |
| 00:14:05 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Or, still different, would it be best to have drawing functions (incl. text) for unbuffered mode |
| 00:14:15 | amiconn | s//?/ |
| 00:14:39 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Hi. Does your patch share anything with the tcc77x code, or have you created a separate directory for the 7801? |
| 00:16:08 | shotofadds | Bagder: I tried to svn add recursively over the firmware/* directory, but nothing shows in svn diff or svn status. do i need to add the files individually? |
| 00:16:13 | * | amiconn ponders committing the new greylib |
| 00:16:31 | Bagder | shotofadds: hm, that might be the case yes |
| 00:16:51 | shotofadds | linuxstb: initially I've created a new 7801 folder, but I can see there will end up being a lot of similarities. |
| 00:17:03 | shotofadds | might not be a good idea in the long run |
| 00:17:53 | shotofadds | The idea at the moment is to get a patch that others can use as a starting point, I'm not expecting it to be SVN quality yet. |
| 00:18:07 | conando | ah bagder is here... bagder, so are you sure that it's possible for a plugin to _schedule_ a song for the playback engine, and exit (the plugin) just before the song gets loaded/played? |
| 00:18:21 | linuxstb | shotofadds: What's the status of your code now? Is the LCD working reliably? |
| 00:19:06 | Bagder | conando: you didn't ask that before, and no I don't think there's any current functionality for that |
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| 00:19:08 | shotofadds | yes, I have the LCD working reliably and a working button driver |
| 00:19:24 | shotofadds | i'll try svn adding the files individually |
| 00:20:33 | DerPapst | doesn't the jewels plungin has similar functionality? |
| 00:20:38 | conando | bagder: oh ok sorry, then the last time i wasn't really clear it seems.. that's what i wanted to do.. because that currently seems to be the only way to get the actual "pick&start a song" functionality into picture flow |
| 00:21:05 | Bagder | conando: I interpreted your question then as if it would be anything against adding such functionality |
| 00:21:06 | linuxstb | shotofadds: How many buttons does the D2 have? I thought it was touchscreen? |
| 00:22:08 | conando | bagder: ah i see.. well then i'll have a look... although i guess it'll be kinda hard for me as a novice to this project ;) |
| 00:22:43 | Bagder | conando: true... but good practise! ;-) |
| 00:23:00 | Bagder | I figure there's some playlist functions that should be able to get used for it |
| 00:23:15 | shotofadds | linuxstb: the three buttons are plus, minus and Menu. there's also power and hold switch. The OF uses plus minus as down/up in menus in addition to the touchscreen. it's a good starting point... |
| 00:23:16 | conando | hehe true true.. yes that's what i thought too |
| 00:23:16 | Bagder | that may or may not already be in the plugin api |
| 00:24:09 | shotofadds | hmm.. individual svn add'ing seems to work. when i've put something together I'll post it to the forum, as a user there was interested. |
| 00:24:39 | Bagder | shotofadds: do put the patch in the patch tracker, and post a link to it in the forum |
| 00:24:47 | conando | bagder: i'm on my first rockbox adventure ;) thanks |
| 00:25:13 | shotofadds | Bagder: will do. that way I can't break it again unintentionally :) |
| 00:25:20 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Does your D2 have DAB? |
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| 00:26:49 | shotofadds | Yes, it's 4Gb DAB. The work I've done so far should be pretty generic though - DAB will be a whole new adventure for later! |
| 00:27:58 | linuxstb | Do you know what DAB hardware is in the D2? Is it the same as my Logik DAX - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LogikDaxPort#Hardware |
| 00:28:51 | shotofadds | I'm not sure - I haven't taken it apart. Yet. |
| 00:31:09 | shotofadds | got to go - the other half is calling... |
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| 00:45:31 | linuxstb | amiconn: Have you looked at my viewports patch yet, or are you intending to before I commit it? |
| 00:48:45 | amiconn | Not yet, was busy with what I just committed, and I'm not done with it |
| 00:49:57 | linuxstb | Nice commit ;) Does it increase the mpegplayer framerate? |
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| 00:58:22 | amiconn | linuxstb: Not as much as I hoped. I have some ideas for optimisation (using asm of course, but not nearly as much as the old lib had) |
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| 00:58:56 | * | amiconn also doesn't like the binsize increase especially on archos :/ |
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| 01:05:11 | batataxpto69 | hi |
| 01:05:16 | batataxpto69 | can u help me? |
| 01:05:17 | BigBambi_ | yo |
| 01:05:20 | BigBambi_ | Just ask |
| 01:05:26 | BigBambi_ | And use proper english please |
| 01:05:28 | batataxpto69 | i've installed rockbox |
| 01:05:44 | batataxpto69 | on a sansa e250 |
| 01:05:46 | BigBambi_ | And don't use the enter key as punctuation :) |
| 01:05:59 | batataxpto69 | and i want to refresh the database |
| 01:06:34 | batataxpto69 | ok, i will try to do not use enter key as ponctuation! |
| 01:06:41 | BigBambi_ | Thanks |
| 01:07:17 | pixelma | batataxpto69: do you mean the original firmware's one or Rockbox's database? |
| 01:07:33 | batataxpto69 | the rockbox was refreshed the database automatically on the first usage, but now I can't refresh it again |
| 01:07:48 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: Select initialise now to do it manually |
| 01:07:52 | batataxpto69 | sorry for my english, by the way |
| 01:08:12 | batataxpto69 | where i can find that BigBambi_? |
| 01:08:26 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: Your english is fine, but many people rely on screen readers or translation software, so things like "u" not you are not so useful |
| 01:08:34 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: In the database menu |
| 01:10:22 | BigBambi_ | I don't use the database, but from memory settings - general settings - database - initialise now |
| 01:10:40 | batataxpto69 | i see Artist, Album, Genre, composer, track, year, user rating, recently added, a to z, history, same as ccurrent, search and, finally, custom viwe |
| 01:10:59 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: See above - it is in settings |
| 01:11:12 | BigBambi_ | I should have said the database settings menu, my mistake |
| 01:11:18 | batataxpto69 | ok |
| 01:11:49 | BigBambi_ | Do you also have auto update turned on? |
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| 01:12:22 | batataxpto69 | no i haven't |
| 01:12:46 | batataxpto69 | ok, it's donw |
| 01:12:49 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: Probably a good idea :) |
| 01:12:54 | batataxpto69 | thank you |
| 01:12:57 | BigBambi_ | Is there a load to ram setting on the sansa? |
| 01:13:04 | pixelma | BigBambi_: isn't that slow on targets without dircache? |
| 01:13:04 | batataxpto69 | yes, probaly is a good idea |
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| 01:13:18 | BigBambi_ | pixelma: I don't know, I don't own one |
| 01:13:31 | BigBambi_ | pixelma: But if you want any sort of autoupdating... |
| 01:14:03 | BigBambi_ | I ought to buy a Sansa really. I know very little about them |
| 01:14:14 | BigBambi_ | If anyone hears of a cheap one.... |
| 01:14:19 | pixelma | that's what I've been told... but I don't trust autoupdate anyway especially on targets with removeable media (and don't use the database too much) |
| 01:14:21 | batataxpto69 | Is there a load to ram setting on the sansa? -> i don't have understanded, when i said that "sorry for my english" I was telling the treth |
| 01:14:43 | batataxpto69 | *truth |
| 01:14:57 | BigBambi_ | batataxpto69: In the database settings menu (the one with auto update etc), is there an option called "Load to RAM"? |
| 01:15:34 | pixelma | BigBambi_: no there isn't |
| 01:15:38 | BigBambi_ | OK |
| 01:15:45 | BigBambi_ | I thought not on Sansa, but wasn't sure |
| 01:15:46 | batataxpto69 | no it isn't |
| 01:16:16 | BigBambi_ | pixelma: I thought the slowness was for removing deleted files without load to RAM (or is that as well as slowness with no dircache)? |
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| 01:17:27 | batataxpto69 | Bye |
| 01:17:32 | BigBambi | cheerio |
| 01:17:32 | batataxpto69 | i need to sleep |
| 01:17:59 | batataxpto69 | that is late here |
| 01:18:07 | pixelma | you need to ask Slasheri for the details but as I understood (in a very nontechnical way) dircache helps the database to detect deleted, added and updated files |
| 01:18:14 | BigBambi | OK |
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| 01:19:03 | BigBambi | I understood that performance was a bit worse without dircache, but that detection of deleted files required it |
| 01:19:23 | BigBambi | Anyway, as I say I don't know and don't use it, so am going to stop pointlessly speculating :) |
| 01:20:09 | pixelma | I also only try the database from time to time, never used autoupdate |
| 01:20:27 | BigBambi | me neither |
| 01:22:14 | pixelma | I just tried manual "update now" a few times on my Ondio with database initialised while an MMC was plugged and then removed for the update - that failed... |
| 01:22:57 | BigBambi | hmmmm |
| 01:24:40 | Slasheri | pixelma: hmm, could you check the logf output? |
| 01:25:45 | pixelma | don't I need a special build for that? |
| 01:25:52 | Slasheri | indeed |
| 01:26:18 | Slasheri | but that is the only way to get the actual error message |
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| 01:28:31 | Jay_G | BigBambi - Refurbished Sansa e260 at Buy.com for $64. I have the refurbished e250 and am very happy with it. |
| 01:28:49 | BigBambi | Jay_G: Do they ship to Europe? |
| 01:28:56 | pixelma | now you tell me... why didn't you say that when I reported it to you back in (must be a long time, don't even remember... at least in last summer or even before) |
| 01:29:15 | Slasheri | pixelma: even that the database doesn't handle MMC very well, it shouldn't fail if updating with or without MMC |
| 01:29:35 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
| 01:30:25 | Jay_G | BigBambi - They ship free to the U.S. I know that doesn't help you. I'll check for overseas shipping. |
| 01:30:35 | Slasheri | but the logfdump would be useful. it might point to the correct place right away |
| 01:30:50 | pixelma | Slasheri: maybe I'll try out an logf build and tell you the details - but not now, quite late |
| 01:32:27 | Slasheri | pixelma: sounds great :) |
| 01:32:31 | Jay_G | BigBambi - Unfortunately, no. |
| 01:32:53 | BigBambi | Jay_G: I could ask a US friend to help out, but then it just adds the price up |
| 01:32:58 | BigBambi | Cheers anyway :) |
| 01:33:06 | Slasheri | just remember to define LOGF_ENABLE at the beginning of tagcache.c |
| 01:33:24 | Slasheri | and compile with logf of course :) |
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| 01:43:29 | pixelma | Slasheri: I could at least report that behaviour has changed since I last tried - if I try that now "disk activity" stops very quickly after chosing "update now" but if I want to browse the entries I get the "Database not ready. Initialise now?" splash. Earlier it just didn't stop disk activity and if I went to the debug menu I could see that there was no progress... |
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| 01:52:38 | amiconn | merf |
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| 02:26:43 | tapiocapudding | hi |
| 02:26:44 | tapiocapudding | umm |
| 02:27:46 | tapiocapudding | i got the rockbox utility and installed rockbox (i did a small install) and now i'm trying to get the fonts, but when i try to download i get http error 0 |
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| 02:28:13 | tapiocapudding | i've completely cleared the utility thru my firewall |
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| 02:28:48 | tapiocapudding | umm |
| 02:28:50 | tapiocapudding | anyone |
| 02:29:05 | tapiocapudding | i guess i'll just restart the program then |
| 02:29:10 | tapiocapudding | see if that helps |
| 02:30:33 | tapiocapudding | yeah that worked kthxbye |
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| 02:32:20 | jhMikeS | amiconn: ? (have to get to bed early btw) |
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| 02:55:57 | darkslategrey | hey |
| 02:56:07 | darkslategrey | umm |
| 02:56:11 | darkslategrey | i have a problem w/ rockdoom |
| 02:57:28 | darkslategrey | when i try to load an addon file (this has happened with every addon i've tried) the normal text appears on the screen and an error message appears |
| 02:57:40 | darkslategrey | and it seems to have been cut off but what i can read of it is |
| 02:58:06 | darkslategrey | you cannot -file with the sh |
| 02:58:27 | darkslategrey | and then it stops, displays more text faster than i can read it, and returns to the plugin menu |
| 02:59:29 | darkslategrey | my theory is that the rest is supposed to say "areware", so the complete message would be you cannot -file with the shareware |
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| 03:06:29 | darkslategrey | okay then |
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| 03:15:03 | dqhpmp | hi |
| 03:16:05 | dqhpmp | hi |
| 03:16:59 | dqhpmp | hi |
| 03:17:17 | dqhpmp | how are you |
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| 03:35:33 | qwm | scorche |
| 03:35:39 | qwm | what is that fool up to? |
| 03:35:57 | * | scorche shrugs...shall i call him? :) |
| 03:36:05 | Darrell | Is there ever going to be a version of rockbox for the Ipod classic? |
| 03:36:17 | krazykit | Darrell, if someone does the port, yes |
| 03:36:24 | * | scorche shakes an 8-ball |
| 03:36:33 | scorche | Darrell: Outcome Unclear :) |
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| 03:44:07 | dqhpmp | hi |
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| 03:45:28 | dqhpmp | are you there |
| 03:45:39 | evilnick | hi |
| 03:46:05 | krazykit | dqhpmp, please read the guidelines. you'll know to just ask if you have a problem :) |
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| 03:46:40 | dqhpmp | there is a bug in mpegplayer |
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| 03:46:57 | Rayvin | I'm here helping a friend read this window...He's having problems seeing it and I'm helping. |
| 03:47:40 | qwm | scorche: you got his phone number? :p |
| 03:47:49 | scorche | i do |
| 03:47:56 | qwm | hehe |
| 03:48:01 | qwm | where do you live btw? |
| 03:48:09 | Darrell | is thre going to be a reasease of Rockbox for the Ipod classic? |
| 03:48:20 | scorche | come into #rockbox-community for this |
| 03:48:21 | Rayvin | Now that I can read the window for him. :-P |
| 03:48:35 | scorche | Darrell: no one is even working on porting it |
| 03:48:45 | dqhpmp | there is a bug in mpegplayer |
| 03:49:15 | scorche | dqhpmp: yes...we heard you |
| 03:49:16 | krazykit | dqhpmp, well, we can't know what it is if you don't tell us |
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| 03:50:12 | dqhpmp | the bug is that when the idle power off is set the while the video is playing the player will shut off |
| 03:50:23 | Rayvin | Ok...Now I've got a question, just for my own curiosity sake. Exactly wat makes a iPOD video different from an iPOD Classic...It's a real Noob question I know but I'm just too curious. |
| 03:50:47 | scorche | Rayvin: lots of things....completely different hardware, encrypted firmware, etc |
| 03:51:25 | Rayvin | Ah thank you Scorch. That's what I was wondering. I knew the hardware was different...And figured the firmware might be. Thank you for clarifying. |
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| 03:52:26 | Rayvin | See you guys!! |
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| 03:52:28 | krazykit | dqhpmp, are you using the latest official build? |
| 03:52:37 | dqhpmp | yes |
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| 03:54:16 | dqhpmp | I set it to 5 mins the video is under 5 mins |
| 03:55:12 | krazykit | dqhpmp, i just set my timeout to 2 minutes and started a video that's longer. let's see what happens. |
| 03:55:36 | dqhpmp | k |
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| 04:00:19 | krazykit | dqhpmp, my player didn't shut off after 2... |
| 04:00:20 | krazykit | oh |
| 04:00:23 | krazykit | , there it went |
| 04:00:48 | krazykit | well, that doesn't seem like desirable behavior |
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| 04:01:34 | dqhpmp | I am glad I could tell y'all |
| 04:01:45 | krazykit | file a bug report, then, i'd suggest |
| 04:02:11 | dqhpmp | I think someone has done that |
| 04:02:18 | dqhpmp | let me get the link |
| 04:03:38 | dqhpmp | here it is: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8388 |
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| 04:05:49 | dqhpmp | I hope this helps |
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| 04:09:13 | RexMundi | Hi, I just bricked my ipod completely and in the display I see the message that I have to use iTunes to restore, but I'm using Linux and have no iTunes. Is there a way to put rockbox on it without the original firmware? |
| 04:10:15 | RexMundi | I tried running the installer but I get a http error when I want to use the complete install function, and the install bootloader function says my bootloader is up to date... |
| 04:10:55 | psycho_maniac | know somebody with itunes? |
| 04:11:59 | RexMundi | my parents have a windows pc, so I could go over there, but I wanted to know if I could fix it directly |
| 04:12:25 | psycho_maniac | this should give you a start: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=restore+ipod+without+itunes&btnG=Google+Search |
| 04:13:04 | krazykit | RexMundi, there is a method on the wiki |
| 04:13:28 | krazykit | IpodManualRestore, i think |
| 04:14:05 | dqhpmp | id you get the link |
| 04:14:33 | RexMundi | I did find a way to restore with dd but you need a backup image of the partition for that |
| 04:14:42 | krazykit | RexMundi, which is also on the wiki. |
| 04:14:48 | krazykit | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore |
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| 04:14:56 | dqhpmp | here it is : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8388 |
| 04:15:08 | krazykit | dqhpmp, thanks |
| 04:15:25 | dqhpmp | I did not post that though |
| 04:15:48 | RexMundi | hehe |
| 04:17:24 | RexMundi | I'll give the link you provided a try, thanks krazykit and dqhpmp |
| 04:18:13 | dqhpmp | I hope you get a chance to look at it |
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| 04:34:07 | RexMundi | krazykit: it worked, so no need for windows afterall :) |
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| 04:34:50 | krazykit | RexMundi, the wiki is just chock-full of nifty information :) |
| 04:36:09 | RexMundi | Tell me about it :), but to be honest I was expecting information like this in the FAQ, assuming that there are more people like me... |
| 04:36:31 | krazykit | RexMundi, keep in mind many users do use windows or osx, making the process a wee bit easier |
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| 04:37:55 | qwm | scorche: convince the fool to quit his job. |
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| 04:37:59 | RexMundi | krazykit: I tend to forget that sometimes :). btw this was as easy as it can be.. |
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| 04:38:42 | jason | hey |
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| 04:39:24 | jason | I got a ? |
| 04:39:32 | krazykit | so ask :) |
| 04:39:47 | krazykit | but read the guidelines first |
| 04:40:32 | jason | I am tryin to install the splash file |
| 04:40:48 | jason | I cant get it to work |
| 04:40:53 | krazykit | what splash file? |
| 04:41:09 | psycho_maniac | bootlogo? |
| 04:41:40 | jason | yeah |
| 04:41:53 | jason | I got both files downloaded |
| 04:42:06 | krazykit | do you have a build-environment set up? |
| 04:42:24 | jason | naw |
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| 04:42:41 | psycho_maniac | are you refering to the actual bootlogo installer |
| 04:42:48 | krazykit | you need one. to change the boot logo, you need to compile your own build |
| 04:43:07 | jason | I have no idea how to do that lol |
| 04:43:09 | krazykit | psycho_maniac, are you confusing what he wants with the "boot loader" perhaps? |
| 04:43:38 | jason | bootsplash.raw and bootsplash.bmp |
| 04:43:44 | psycho_maniac | ill find the wiki page im refering to |
| 04:44:09 | krazykit | jason, er, where are you finding these? |
| 04:44:55 | jason | one of the wiki pages |
| 04:45:00 | krazykit | which one? |
| 04:45:04 | psycho_maniac | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LogoSwapper |
| 04:45:05 | jason | btw I have the Gigabeat F20 |
| 04:45:46 | jason | aight |
| 04:45:46 | krazykit | if you're using that program, it's not supported here. |
| 04:47:19 | jason | aight |
| 04:47:21 | jason | thanks guys |
| 04:47:30 | * | psycho_maniac thinks anything not supported thats in the wiki should say so on the page |
| 04:49:27 | krazykit | it does say that. |
| 04:49:46 | jason | so the program dont support the gigabeat? |
| 04:50:17 | psycho_maniac | no it works on the gigabeat but rockbox devs does nt support it. as in you will not get help in THIS irc channel |
| 04:50:19 | krazykit | jason, the program is not supported in this channel |
| 04:51:00 | jason | aight |
| 04:51:33 | jason | thanks again....btw Rockbox rox!!!!! |
| 04:55:13 | jason | whats the gigabeats latest build date? |
| 04:56:59 | psycho_maniac | today |
| 04:57:23 | krazykit | jason, all the builds are updated at the same time, based on whenever the last revision to the source code was made |
| 04:58:58 | jason | aight |
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| 05:11:31 | BenZavala | hello everyone... my name is Ben Zavala... I've been using Rockbox for more than a year now and well.. of course, I love it. I actually have a WPS Theme that I'd like to upload. Was reading that I need someone to give me edit permisions? Anyone? |
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| 05:14:23 | krazykit | BenZavala, sure, just a minute |
| 05:15:55 | BenZavala | thanks krazykit |
| 05:17:35 | krazykit | BenZavala, you have permissions now |
| 05:18:41 | BenZavala | great! thank you! |
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| 05:59:30 | dqhpmp | hi |
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| 06:00:06 | dqhpmp | how is rockbox on a gigabeat |
| 06:00:16 | scorche | dandy? |
| 06:00:49 | dqhpmp | I have a question a an ipod nano that was rockboxed |
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| 07:21:29 | ptw419 | i'm having trouble w/ the open function |
| 07:22:15 | ptw419 | in the current rb gigabeat S bootloader the code is like this and works fine :http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/bootloader/gigabeat-s.c?revision=15965&view=markup |
| 07:23:39 | ptw419 | this is my code http://paste.uni.cc/18023 |
| 07:24:17 | ptw419 | in the load_firmware function in common.c the file is not opening w/ open, and taking a bit of time to return |
| 07:24:27 | ptw419 | any ideas? |
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| 07:34:31 | duvnel1 | gotta H10 and want to try to implement the slider bar functionality.. has any work been done on this alrea? |
| 07:34:35 | duvnel1 | already* |
| 07:35:21 | duvnel1 | ne1 around even? |
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| 07:47:42 | duvnel1 | I'm having trouble (looking at rockbox.org) finding just where to check out the svn from? |
| 07:48:39 | duvnel1 | oh.. found a getting started link in teh forums |
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| 07:51:27 | ptw419 | ugh, i can't figure it out :\ |
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| 08:03:01 | duvnel1 | ? |
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| 08:03:20 | duvnel1 | btw- I just installed rockbox tonight.. and it really does rock |
| 08:03:36 | duvnel1 | I am a developer and want to attempt to get the slider pad to work on the H10 |
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| 08:08:13 | * | Llorean doesn't really understand why someone would want to require more hand motion to move in a list. |
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| 08:28:17 | LycoLoco | duvnel1: I'd say check out the wiki, see what's going on |
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| 08:38:53 | ptw419 | http://www.freescale.com/files/ftf_2007/doc/presentations/Americas/Consumer/AC330_FTF2007.pdf?fsrch=1 |
| 08:39:35 | ptw419 | an explanation of how the initial boot sequence of the gigabeatS works at about page 20 |
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| 09:01:28 | dude | anyone here? |
| 09:03:26 | jhulst | maybe |
| 09:05:04 | dude | my ipod keeps rebooting at the apple logo, can you help? |
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| 09:07:42 | jhulst | dude: You'll need to describe what you've done, are you trying to install? |
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| 09:29:55 | AKWIN | hello |
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| 10:02:41 | GodEater | morning linuxstb :) |
| 10:02:54 | linuxstb | Good morning |
| 10:03:51 | * | linuxstb goes to plumb himself into the espresso machine |
| 10:04:00 | GodEater | sounds like a good plan |
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| 10:07:35 | linuxstb | Anyone know the license of ecos? Thinking about that Karma patch sent to RedHat... |
| 10:09:22 | linuxstb | Seems that from May 2002, it was under a modified GPL... |
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| 10:10:29 | linuxstb | So maybe users have the right to ask for the source... I wonder why no-one did. |
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| 10:18:20 | GodEater | eCos: Currently GPL, at the time Rio submitted PP code to it was RHEPL |
| 10:18:30 | * | linuxstb found it here - http://ecos.sourceware.org/old-license.html |
| 10:18:45 | linuxstb | It seems even that license required Rio to distribute the source to users, but only for 12 months... |
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| 10:19:30 | Llorean | So see if an old firmware update is still available anywhere that would count as them distributing? |
| 10:20:09 | linuxstb | Who owns the Rio Karma now? |
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| 10:20:49 | Llorean | RioAudio.com is still around |
| 10:21:23 | linuxstb | Yes, complete with firmware updates... |
| 10:21:54 | Llorean | Last firmware update is from 2004, but they're distributing it as of today? |
| 10:22:04 | linuxstb | They seem to be. |
| 10:22:27 | linuxstb | So I guess someone should re-read that ecos license, and then send an email requesting source... |
| 10:22:42 | Llorean | So that thing's running eCos? |
| 10:22:53 | GodEater | according to two people I know yes |
| 10:22:58 | GodEater | both of whom worked on the thing |
| 10:23:47 | Llorean | Might be a good idea to scan it for strings, just to see if there can be a little more confirmation that the file you specifically downloaded from them is? |
| 10:23:48 | linuxstb | Although maybe it would be easier to ask RedHat first - I would guess they're more likely to be on top of these things. |
| 10:24:00 | linuxstb | Isn't it encrypted? |
| 10:24:22 | GodEater | I think he said it was "lightly encrypted" |
| 10:24:24 | GodEater | whatever that means |
| 10:25:13 | linuxstb | Not light enough for anyone to crack yet though? |
| 10:25:23 | GodEater | no-one's tried |
| 10:25:32 | GodEater | at least - not to my knowledge |
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| 10:40:17 | * | linuxstb is annoyed by the viewports binsize increase - 2656 bytes on Ipod Color, 2532 on H300 |
| 10:41:34 | amiconn | Did you convert some screens yet? |
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| 10:42:09 | amiconn | I would expect a decrease from converting things like the browser etc, making the status bar and button bar a viewport etc |
| 10:42:48 | amiconn | The additional features in the wps do increase binsize of course |
| 10:43:31 | linuxstb | The only changes to apps are the WPS, plus adding the viewport-related functions to the screens and plugin apis. |
| 10:43:46 | amiconn | I still didn't check out your implementation, but I expected only a minimal increases in the lcd drivers.... |
| 10:44:19 | amiconn | In fact each drawing function only needs to shift x and y, and do variable instead of fixed clipping |
| 10:45:25 | linuxstb | 700 bytes of that (on the ipod) is the WPS function to parse the %V tag... I think the wps parsing can be improved generally (wrt binsize) |
| 10:45:34 | linuxstb | Yes, that's basically all that it does... |
| 10:46:00 | linuxstb | lcd-16bit.c is about 950 bytes bigger on ARM, I haven't checked the other drivers individually. |
| 10:47:02 | amiconn | SH1 would be most interesting |
| 10:47:48 | linuxstb | I was wondering if the Player needs to support the %V tag in the WPS. |
| 10:48:02 | linuxstb | (%V sets a viewport for the subsequent lines in the WPS) |
| 10:48:08 | amiconn | Hmm, but if the driver is only +950 bytes, what's the rest?? |
| 10:48:58 | linuxstb | The changes in the WPS, as I said, about 700 bytes for the parser, which means about 900 bytes elsewhere. |
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| 10:50:43 | linuxstb | Do Coldfire and SH pass function parameters in registers? If so, how many? |
| 10:51:02 | amiconn | Coldfire doesn't |
| 10:51:21 | amiconn | SH does, 4 regs similar to arm (SH uses r4..r7) |
| 10:52:19 | amiconn | But unlike arm, SH switches to all-stackparms if there are more than 4 parameters (iirc) |
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| 11:08:11 | GodEater | I'm just uploading the extracted Karma flash upgrade to the wiki in case anyone is interested. |
| 11:08:49 | linuxstb | Probably best not to... We don't normally host firmware files there. |
| 11:09:28 | linuxstb | GodEater: ^ |
| 11:09:42 | * | GodEater is pretty sure ukre will complain if there's a problem with it =/ |
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| 11:09:53 | GodEater | shall I host it elsewhere instead then |
| 11:09:55 | GodEater | ? |
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| 11:10:45 | linuxstb | Isn't is still available on rioaudio.com? |
| 11:11:16 | GodEater | yes, but this but only as a windows self extracting exe |
| 11:11:23 | GodEater | I've extracted that and uploaded the content |
| 11:11:36 | GodEater | to make life easier for our linux only brethren |
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| 11:15:31 | linuxstb | I think a link to rioaudio.com is enough - if a Linux user is struggling to extract, they can always ask someone to help. |
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| 11:17:35 | amiconn | Often those sfx files are some standard packer format with an executable stub tacked on |
| 11:18:21 | GodEater | yes - wasn't zip though in this case |
| 11:19:30 | GodEater | running strings over it produces almost nothing |
| 11:20:34 | GodEater | so I'd say definitely encrypted somehow |
| 11:20:38 | linuxstb | Ah, "cabextract" works... |
| 11:21:08 | linuxstb | But then just gives another .exe... |
| 11:22:27 | GodEater | yes |
| 11:22:40 | GodEater | the bulk of which appears to be the firmware |
| 11:22:46 | GodEater | with a bit of usb magic on the front |
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| 11:28:48 | * | GodEater wonders if any bits of ReplayTV are also open source |
| 11:33:03 | * | linuxstb wonders if he should expose the ability the use the system font at the same time as the user font in the WPS... |
| 11:34:24 | Llorean | I'd say just wait for multifont. |
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| 11:36:27 | linuxstb | The advantage of doing it now is that it would keep the viewport tag the same when multifont support is added, and the system font is useful for numerical output, such as times. |
| 11:39:54 | GodEater | you mean you'll apply a font to the entire viewport ? |
| 11:42:36 | linuxstb | Yes - the lcd drivers support it, it's just currently always set to the UI font when a %V tag is read, rather than adding a parameter to the %V tag. |
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| 12:19:27 | linuxstb | Another reason to include a font parameter to %V is so that (hopefully..) the existing multi-font patch can use it, meaning themes written to use the multifont patch can just degrade in the official build (until it supports multifont) instead of being rejected. |
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| 12:40:20 | pixelma | scorche: you around? |
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| 12:45:11 | kraus | i have the latest rockbox on my ipod video 30gb and Debian lenny (linux) on my computer. The problem is that when i make a file on my ipod that has ä or ö (i'm finnish) in it's filename, rockbox shows it like ä¤. |
| 12:45:22 | kraus | so can anyone help? |
| 12:46:51 | linuxstb | pixelma: He said he was going to sleep about an hour ago (in -community) |
| 12:48:02 | pixelma | linuxstb: ... - thanks for the information though :) |
| 12:51:20 | pixelma | kraus: did you try if changing the "default codepage" settings (in Rockbox) makes any difference? |
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| 13:40:04 | amiconn | umm |
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| 13:40:25 | * | amiconn broke chessbox and rockboy on archos with yesterday's plugin binsize reduction commit |
| 13:40:47 | amiconn | Fortunately the fix should be dead simple, trying... |
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| 13:45:23 | amiconn | Yay, r16000 :) |
| 13:46:56 | * | linuxstb was aiming for that ;) |
| 13:47:45 | amiconn | Next geek revision to aim for: 16384 ;) |
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| 14:00:16 | justinsane | is there some music player, which can be connected to LAN (wifi, cable) and able to run bittorrent client and RSS ? |
| 14:00:39 | justinsane | this new sansa can do this ? |
| 14:01:28 | justinsane | i mean some player which has the hw peripherial, not the BT client |
| 14:02:23 | justinsane | luuks like sunday lunch in progress here ... |
| 14:02:48 | desowin | I don't know of any portable player which can be connected to LAN |
| 14:03:26 | justinsane | aha so we must wait :) |
| 14:03:47 | justinsane | i thought some were supported wifi or ? |
| 14:03:56 | desowin | zune supports wifi I think |
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| 14:04:07 | desowin | but rockbox isn't ported to it |
| 14:04:51 | justinsane | like this http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/sandisk-sansa-connect-wifi-portable-audio-player/ but this is not cheap... |
| 14:05:08 | Nico_P | damn I could've got r16000 |
| 14:05:24 | justinsane | but sansa gives some suppport to open source community (rockbox) ? |
| 14:07:12 | linuxstb | Not really. |
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| 14:08:08 | rvvs89 | justinsane: PDA? |
| 14:09:02 | rvvs89 | Oh, or iPod Touch |
| 14:09:47 | rvvs89 | With some work (assuming a bittorrent+rss client does not yet exist for iPod Touch), you could get it to work |
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| 14:10:25 | justinsane | pda is good idea, but i hate microsoft :) |
| 14:10:36 | justinsane | just a little |
| 14:10:40 | * | BigBambi plays the grumpy one and points at the topic |
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| 14:11:44 | justinsane | but got the point, thanks |
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| 14:17:39 | jhMikeS | amiconn: why can't the overlay be clipped to any subset of the area specified in the initial init? (with the notable alignment restrictions of course) |
| 14:18:16 | amiconn | It could, but the question is whether it's necessary/wanted |
| 14:18:34 | amiconn | It would bloat the parameters of grey_set_postion from 2 to 6 |
| 14:18:49 | jhMikeS | 6? |
| 14:19:08 | amiconn | Yes, x, y, width, height, dest_x, dest_y |
| 14:19:18 | amiconn | Right now you can only set the last 2 |
| 14:19:50 | amiconn | Another thing that you could try is using buffered mode (always), draw the OSD using the greylib, and still drawing the video with grey_ub_gray_bitmap_part() |
| 14:20:29 | jhMikeS | that's what I initially did and had problems |
| 14:20:30 | amiconn | Should work now, as long as the latter is properly clipped to not overdraw the former |
| 14:20:44 | amiconn | That was with the old graylib, which did many things different |
| 14:22:20 | amiconn | There are 2 other, unrelated things which I wanted to ask/point out |
| 14:22:49 | jhMikeS | I think a clip rect on screen with four params should be enough to specify clipping the overlay |
| 14:23:23 | amiconn | (1) The PP5002 problem seems to be something fundamental. I'm not completely sure yet, but it seems that whenever the 1st/2nd Gen build is broken, the 3rd Gen build is broken too, and vice versa |
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| 14:24:12 | amiconn | (2) Do you have an idea why doom still freezes/crashes/behaves strangely when voice is enabled? Afaiu it shouldn't do that anymore. But it does... |
| 14:24:36 | jhMikeS | amiconn: so builds for those either all work or all don't? |
| 14:24:47 | amiconn | Seems like it, yes |
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| 14:25:41 | amiconn | Would need scientific verification though, building 1st/2nd and 3rd Gen builds on the same machine, without special patches, and then trying different revisions |
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| 14:25:57 | jhMikeS | (2) I have no idea about doom though |
| 14:28:48 | jhMikeS | If doom uses the whole audio buffer, then voice being enabled will assume the audio buffer/pcm buffer are still initialized. |
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| 14:46:34 | gustavonarea | Hello. I'd like to buy a portable music player and I'd like to know what models works better with rockbox? Thanks in advance. |
| 14:48:08 | Tuplanolla | What do you mean by 'works better' |
| 14:49:56 | linuxstb | Have you read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide ? |
| 14:50:13 | gustavonarea | Tuplanolla: that rockbox supports it well; that I could install it without dirty workarounds; that most features of rockbox work as expected... |
| 14:50:47 | gustavonarea | linuxstb: oh, I'm sorry, i didn't see that page. Thank you! |
| 14:50:48 | Tuplanolla | Ok, check the link that linuxstb said |
| 14:50:59 | gustavonarea | ok, thank you very much! |
| 14:51:01 | Tuplanolla | I recommend Sandisk Sansa e280 |
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| 14:51:55 | linuxstb | gustavonarea: Probably best to narrow down to a few units (based on hardware features), and then ask if there are any major issues with any of those. All devices have their quirks. |
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| 14:52:37 | gustavonarea | ok, i will |
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| 15:01:41 | Buschel | jhMikeS: about the freq-scaling -> do i understand correctly that, when switching between normal<->max clock, we always switch to source #1 (24MHz) shortly until the PLL settled? and then switch to source #2, which is PLL-driven? |
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| 15:08:37 | jhMikeS | Buschel: Yes, you switch out the PLL as the clock source temporarily until it stabilizes |
| 15:09:18 | Buschel | jhMikeS: is there any reason to only use source #2 for the clock? |
| 15:09:57 | jhMikeS | Buschel: It's arbitrary. amiconn implemented it that way. |
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| 15:10:42 | jhMikeS | you can pick any source. did you have the MrH's writup re: the clocking? |
| 15:11:07 | Buschel | no |
| 15:13:16 | jhMikeS | Buschel: I've got it somewhere...have to look around |
| 15:13:35 | Buschel | thiat would be fine :) |
| 15:13:38 | Buschel | *that |
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| 15:21:19 | jhMikeS | Buschel: PM up |
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| 15:32:24 | amiconn | Buschel: We use sources #1 and #2 |
| 15:33:00 | amiconn | Reconfiguring the source we're running from can freeze easily |
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| 15:33:56 | Buschel | i still wonder whether i can use source #1 (=24MHz) as normal clock and only use source #2 for PLL driven max clock |
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| 16:10:40 | FunkyELF | to update rockbox I just move the new .rockbox folder over right? |
| 16:15:44 | linuxstb | FunkyELF: Yes |
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| 16:31:17 | shift | Hey =] |
| 16:31:27 | shift | I was just wondering.... what's the best player for rb? |
| 16:31:37 | shift | is it still the gigabeat? |
| 16:32:04 | shift | by best I mean supports most of the features and eats the least battery. |
| 16:32:06 | FunkyELF | anyone here us Linux? |
| 16:32:29 | shift | yup |
| 16:32:42 | jhMikeS | shift: depends on your priorities - video or audio? recording? |
| 16:33:10 | shift | jhMikeS, audio with a bit of video support for like 15 second clips maybe.... being able to play movies would be great but... I dont' care. |
| 16:33:39 | FunkyELF | I can't figure out how to unzip all these themes that I downloaded and have them be in the right directory |
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| 16:33:48 | jhMikeS | shift: probably an x5 if sound quality is important. e200 is also good if a small player is wanted. |
| 16:34:21 | FunkyELF | some of them start at .rockbox and some of them don't have that and just have the wps, fonts, backdrop directories |
| 16:34:35 | FunkyELF | so I unzip all of them but then how do I merge them? |
| 16:34:59 | soap | Buschel, are your last two battery benchmarks in IpodRuntime correct as written? Identical times with and without WPS? |
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| 16:35:19 | Buschel | soap: yes, i also wondered about it. |
| 16:35:28 | shift | FunkyELF, I dont know what you mean, I just use xarchiver. |
| 16:35:54 | shift | so how much would the x5 go for? can't find it on ebay. |
| 16:38:21 | soap | perhaps MPC is more efficient enough that it is the difference between my WPS leading to additional boosting and your WPS not? |
| 16:40:39 | Buschel | just thought the same, just doing some testing with 24MHz as default −− i'll see :) |
| 16:41:04 | linuxstb | FunkyELF: "unzip theme.zip -d /mnt/" (replacing /mnt/ with whereever your device is mounted) |
| 16:41:32 | soap | Buschel, I _don't_ have an inline ammeter hooked up - is there anything I can do to help test? |
| 16:41:45 | Buschel | soap: musepack uses ~24MHz for ~180-190kbps |
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| 16:43:35 | Buschel | soap: my last i2c test worked but did not show _any_ savings. and the most interesting thin for me right now is the PLL-stuff −− but we need to wait for saratoga to do some measurements as the cpu slaing is not stable enough to perform runtime tests... |
| 16:43:52 | Buschel | soap: thanks for your support so far |
| 16:45:07 | Buschel | too much typos... should take a break now... |
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| 16:47:18 | YippMN | i don't see anywhere in the rockbox manual for the sansa e260 about how to install new themes , am i missing something? |
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| 16:48:14 | Tuplanolla | YippMN: download theme, then extract to the device. it's simple |
| 16:49:57 | YippMN | oh so you just extract into the device no particular folder or anything just like with the .rockbox? |
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| 16:50:25 | linuxstb | The theme _should_ have the correct folder structure in the .zip - all the files go inside .rockbox |
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| 16:52:08 | YippMN | oh , ok, so i extract the theme into the .rockbox folder |
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| 16:53:17 | linuxstb | The zip file should contain .rockbox in the filenames, so you extract to the root of your device. |
| 16:53:33 | YippMN | ok |
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| 16:58:51 | kugel | linuxstb: I've got a question concerning viewports. You added this font stuff recently, but I don't get it |
| 16:59:21 | linuxstb | What don't you get? |
| 16:59:28 | kugel | linuxstb: Does the number stand for the user fonts created with multifont patch? |
| 16:59:59 | linuxstb | No, I explained what the numbers mean. |
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| 17:00:14 | linuxstb | 0 -> System font (6x8 built into Rockbox), 1 -> User font. |
| 17:00:29 | kugel | and other values are not rejected |
| 17:00:39 | kugel | what does that mean? |
| 17:00:43 | linuxstb | Yes, anything else -> User font |
| 17:01:04 | linuxstb | But the intention is that the multifont patch can now be updated to work with viewports, without changing the %V syntax. |
| 17:02:32 | kugel | wouldn't it be better to integrate the user font part of multifont in vp? |
| 17:02:50 | linuxstb | Feel free... |
| 17:03:11 | kugel | k, thanks for your help |
| 17:03:18 | linuxstb | But the current multifont patch isn't suitable for svn - it's needs to use a single unified cache, rather than one cache per font (IIUC). |
| 17:05:06 | kugel | do you mean the glyph files? |
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| 17:05:36 | linuxstb | I mean the glyphs (bitmaps) themselves. |
| 17:08:28 | kugel | I'm not too familar with the multifont patch, I just know it consists of two parts, the different fonts for different screens and the multiple fonts for wps (user font), and I thought the first part won't get committed anyway |
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| 17:12:06 | Triple-z | hello |
| 17:12:18 | linuxstb | kugel: The part I care about is the implementation in the core font code. That needs to be better. |
| 17:12:50 | Triple-z | somehow i got my sansa e280 almost bricked |
| 17:13:01 | Triple-z | rockbox stuck |
| 17:13:19 | Triple-z | and i dont have the OF.bin so i cant boot to the of |
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| 17:13:45 | Triple-z | i try recovery mode few times |
| 17:13:58 | Triple-z | but i guess im doing something wrong |
| 17:14:04 | Buschel | jhMikeS: the H10_cpu_frq.txt does not fully match to what we do? |
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| 17:15:03 | duvnel1 | may I ask development questions here? |
| 17:15:19 | GodEater | duvnel1: by all means |
| 17:16:50 | duvnel1 | ok, this question deals with the button_task() function in firmware/drivers/button.c |
| 17:19:18 | linuxstb | You mean button_tick() ? |
| 17:19:55 | duvnel1 | sry.. yes |
| 17:20:43 | duvnel1 | I'm trying to implement support for the scrollpad on the iRiver H10 |
| 17:23:03 | duvnel1 | since the button_read_device() function is called every tick, I was going to have it send alternating button off, button on states for the BUTTON_SCROLL_DOWN button each time it's called |
| 17:23:23 | duvnel1 | this would return states AS IF the user were rapidly pressing the DOWN button |
| 17:23:30 | duvnel1 | (and all this for the UP button as well) |
| 17:23:46 | duvnel1 | I made the changes but found something strange |
| 17:25:21 | duvnel1 | I have to return the button pressed state for at least 2 ticks and then button released (i.e. 0) for at least 3 ticks for the calling code to recognize it as button press then release events |
| 17:25:44 | duvnel1 | I cannot just return pressed for 1 tick and then released for 1 tick.. it doesn't do anything if I do that |
| 17:26:27 | duvnel1 | 2 ticks pressed and 2 ticks released is not enough either... it requires at least 3 ticks released.. which seems strange |
| 17:27:23 | duvnel1 | this works, but the maximum scroll rate you can do with your finger is little less than half what it should be.. so I wanted to ask if you might know what the deal is with that |
| 17:27:26 | duvnel1 | any ideas? |
| 17:27:38 | duvnel1 | I can clarify if something I wrote doesn't make sense |
| 17:30:32 | linuxstb | I don't know, but if you wait, hopefully someone who has a clue will read the logs. |
| 17:30:52 | duvnel1 | k thx |
| 17:31:08 | duvnel1 | I'm going to start inspecting the calling code a bit more |
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| 17:33:35 | duvnel1 | any convenient ways of getting some debugging feedback? a console? a unversal beep function? etc? |
| 17:34:00 | linuxstb | Not really... You can try splash() |
| 17:34:05 | rasher | logf |
| 17:34:10 | linuxstb | Or logf... |
| 17:34:31 | GodEater | or jtag, if there is one, and you have the hardware to use it... |
| 17:35:24 | duvnel1 | k, I'll try those |
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| 17:37:20 | jhMikeS | Buschel: not fully. things are actually more general than in that text re: clock source it seems. |
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| 17:41:11 | duvnel1 | where does logf() go? |
| 17:44:26 | duvnel1 | arg.. goes to the remote's lcd.. I don't have one :( |
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| 17:45:36 | linuxstb | You use it like printf. You'll need to #include <logf.h> in the source file(s) using it, plus enable it by adding #define ENABLE_LOGF _before_ the #include <logf.h> |
| 17:45:36 | linuxstb | (this lets us leave logfs in the code, which are only enabled temporarily) |
| 17:45:36 | linuxstb | And then you can view the logf buffer via the debug menu - that's where they go. |
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| 17:46:05 | Buschel | jhMikeS: e.g. PROC_CTL(CUR_CORE) = 0x4800001f; is used when setting 24HMz. the document sais it shall be used for PLL-clocking... |
| 17:46:13 | duvnel1 | linuxstb: perhaps a new item shows up in the debug menu if I enable logf? |
| 17:46:27 | duvnel1 | linuxstb: I didn't see anything in the dbg menu that might show that right now |
| 17:46:29 | Buschel | jhMike: also the values which are set the CPU/COP-control registers are different |
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| 17:47:04 | linuxstb | duvnel1: You also need to compile a "logf build" - you choose it via tools/configure |
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| 17:47:39 | cg|aw | duvnel1: i'm not sure if this is related, but button.c seems to have some debouncing going on around line 500 |
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| 17:47:58 | duvnel1 | ah.. checking |
| 17:48:33 | duvnel1 | cg: ahah.. I'll try #undefing that |
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| 17:56:04 | jhMikeS | Buschel: yes, but those are just delays that stop the other core for a certain number of clock cycles |
| 17:56:26 | jhMikeS | or the same core |
| 17:57:26 | Buschel | ah, ok. |
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| 17:58:32 | duvnel1 | cg: YES! that worked.. 1 tick up and 1 tick down works now and it's fast |
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| 18:00:43 | duvnel1 | cool.. and now with my original code back in, the scrollpad on the iriver H10 now works |
| 18:00:46 | duvnel1 | got some tweaking to do tho |
| 18:02:04 | duvnel1 | might be able to have a "tap" press select.. not sure |
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| 18:03:52 | Buschel | jhMikeS: do you have any idea why switching between default and max clock (instead of normal and max) is instable? |
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| 18:07:49 | shift | I might be about to order the X5... can I get any final suggestions on a player to get, mainly for audio but for a bit of eyecandy like the gameboy emulator for the hell of it on the side? |
| 18:08:23 | shift | and would it be possible to watch movies from it? would the battery die fast? |
| 18:08:42 | shift | Should I just browse the rockbox page and stop annoying you with stupid questions? |
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| 18:13:28 | moos | shift: already read this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
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| 18:13:58 | shift | moos, hey thanks... never came accross it actually. Thank you =) |
| 18:14:42 | shift | e200 looks like a winner. |
| 18:14:54 | moos | no problem, choosing a player is really tasty |
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| 18:16:53 | shift | it is tasty.... actually looking for the exact one might be not as tasty |
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| 18:18:23 | moos | shift: I meant taste depending |
| 18:18:41 | shift | lol, I know. |
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| 18:20:18 | shift | if I was to order the e200 directly from sandisk.com........ would they ship me a v2 one? |
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| 18:24:10 | moos | shift: since the v1 is out of production, I guess "yes" |
| 18:24:24 | shift | =( |
| 18:24:44 | moos | try ebay maybe? |
| 18:25:05 | shift | not around. |
| 18:25:10 | krazykit | shift, buy.com refurbs may be v1, and someone has claimed that walmart does too |
| 18:25:59 | shift | no walmart in australia =) |
| 18:26:37 | krazykit | oh, then you're going to have a hard time finding one, other than ebay :-/ |
| 18:26:57 | shift | yay =( |
| 18:26:58 | krazykit | unless you can find an australian shop that sells refurbs |
| 18:27:00 | | Part justinsa1e |
| 18:27:11 | shift | what do you mean by 'refurb'? |
| 18:27:38 | kugel | sansas that got RMA'd |
| 18:27:45 | rvvs89 | shift: Which state are you in? |
| 18:27:49 | shift | Victoria. |
| 18:27:59 | kugel | i.e. when buyers didn't like it, they send it back to the distributor |
| 18:28:12 | kugel | if they sell it again it's a refurb |
| 18:28:12 | shift | oh |
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| 18:28:43 | kugel | nothing to worry about, refurbs are fully functional |
| 18:29:07 | shift | not worried, just didn't know about that. |
| 18:29:53 | shift | I'd hate to have to do with an ipod again =/ |
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| 18:33:49 | shift | or I can just stick with my old 3gb ipod mini which doesn't even have a screen anymore. =/ |
| 18:33:58 | advcomp2019 | i think i know one thing the v2s are in boxes like the view.. basically all blue |
| 18:34:25 | shift | hmm... might check a few stores and see which ones they're actually selling. |
| 18:34:29 | krazykit | shift, you can add voice and talk clips to make it functional again ;-) |
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| 18:35:01 | shift | krazykit, that's exactly what I did... have been using it for about a year since the screen broke.... just took it out. |
| 18:37:31 | shift | krazykit, have been trying to scab a screen off someone who's ipod it competly broken.... no luck =(. |
| 18:38:42 | webguest62 | If I stop playback and enter a plugin and then call a function that returns info about the current track would it return info about the stopped track? |
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| 18:50:43 | shift | is the v2 issue that the hardware is completly unsupported or that nobody got around to porting yet? |
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| 18:52:44 | webguest62 | v2 ipods? |
| 18:53:23 | shift | ah sorry... v2 Sansa e200s |
| 18:53:43 | shift | s being... plural.... not model. |
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| 18:55:03 | mrkiko | Hi all again! |
| 18:55:18 | mrkiko | A simple question - is mpegplayer supposed to run even on iRiver? |
| 18:55:22 | mrkiko | H3xx? |
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| 18:55:28 | webguest62 | Pretty sure the hardware isn't supported |
| 18:55:52 | mrkiko | webguest62: can you explain yourself better? |
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| 18:55:57 | shift | ok I just read over the forum thread... seems like there's just nobody working on it yet. |
| 18:56:08 | kugel | can I hide main menu items depending on a setting? |
| 18:56:09 | nanok | hello. happy new year to you all |
| 18:56:23 | shift | wasn't that like a week ago? |
| 18:56:42 | webguest62 | mrkiko: I just got it from here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14523.0 |
| 18:56:42 | nanok | shift: the new year? |
| 18:56:47 | shift | nanok, yes. |
| 18:56:48 | * | nanok should use ntp.. |
| 18:56:50 | nanok | :) |
| 18:56:55 | webguest62 | og |
| 18:56:58 | webguest62 | OH |
| 18:57:07 | nanok | shift: it was, but i wasn't here a week ago |
| 18:57:20 | nanok | so better later than never |
| 18:57:39 | webguest62 | wait mrkiko, i was answering shift's question. Look here to see If Iriver has any plugin: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
| 18:57:47 | webguest62 | I think you should be able to run mpegplayer |
| 18:57:48 | shift | nanok, ah fair enough.... think in some cultured it's considered rude to wish after a holiday.... guess not in general though. |
| 18:58:19 | nanok | shift: ahm, sorry, i didn't know that |
| 18:58:39 | shift | nanok, no need to be sorry... what do I care. >.> |
| 18:58:46 | mrkiko | webguest62: strange |
| 18:58:57 | nanok | in my "culture" we say happy new year whenever we get to see the other party after the new year has come. be it summer, doesn't matter :) |
| 18:59:21 | webguest62 | what? |
| 18:59:40 | nanok | nm, this is offtopic. carry on |
| 18:59:42 | nanok | :) |
| 18:59:52 | mrkiko | webguest62: strange the fact that the iRiver H3xx hardware is not supported relating mpegplayer |
| 18:59:53 | shift | lol |
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| 19:00:00 | mrkiko | I'm using this player to play mp3 with rockbox |
| 19:00:49 | shift | will I get shot in the face for an ipod linux related question? |
| 19:01:19 | kugel | sure |
| 19:01:27 | mrkiko | shift: may be you're better posting it in the rockbox-community channel, if you feel someone of us can help |
| 19:01:46 | nanok | shift: with a double barelled shotgun :) |
| 19:01:52 | mrkiko | or, better again, post it to the #ipodlinux irc channel |
| 19:01:53 | shift | lol |
| 19:02:09 | webguest62 | mrkiko: that plugin index page says that every iriver model supports mpegplayer |
| 19:02:11 | shift | thanks |
| 19:02:55 | mrkiko | webguest62: thank you. I was asking this since when I start mpegplayer in my player, the player simply freezes; and I should turn it off kepping "stop" pressed |
| 19:03:46 | webguest62 | Maybe it's the file |
| 19:03:47 | nanok | mrkiko: that sounds like a bug.. |
| 19:03:58 | webguest62 | are you using the most recent version |
| 19:05:17 | mrkiko | webguest62: no, I admin I'm using a firmware snapshot from 23 dec or so |
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| 19:06:23 | nanok | mrkiko: probably you should try other files, the current build, and if still occurs, check if there's a bug report, file one if not |
| 19:07:24 | moos | mrkiko: mpgplayer can now seek, just update |
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| 19:07:30 | mrkiko | nanok: thank you |
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| 19:08:14 | nanok | mrkiko: no problem, that's the litle i can do :) |
| 19:09:16 | nanok | btw, during the holiday i went on a drive for about 18 hours. my sansa went on for about 16, continuosly |
| 19:09:49 | nanok | not much fidling, just some occasional skipping. mp3's and ogg's of various bitrates |
| 19:10:07 | nanok | quite impressive |
| 19:10:53 | webguest32 | nanok - do you know anything about the playback system of rockbox? |
| 19:11:13 | nanok | no crossfeed though (sounds like in a cave, in the car, so i disabled it :) ) |
| 19:11:46 | nanok | webguest32: that's a bit of a vague question, try to be more specific |
| 19:12:03 | nanok | most probably the answer is no, but there surely is somebody here who knows more than me |
| 19:12:07 | nanok | ;) |
| 19:12:28 | nanok | (read: who actualy designed the damn thing and coded it :) ) |
| 19:15:01 | webguest32 | yes, well i was just asking because i'm trying to program something to do with getting id3 info |
| 19:15:12 | webguest32 | there seem to be about 6 functions that do it |
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| 19:16:21 | nanok | webguest32: ahm, okay. so your question is about internals, down deep to the gory details :) |
| 19:16:43 | nanok | in that case i can't help, unfortunately |
| 19:16:48 | webguest32 | alright |
| 19:17:01 | webguest32 | well then i'm off to do some reading! |
| 19:17:13 | nanok | only one idea: the databse has that info stored usually, if that cuts it for you, maybe that's the "sane" way to go about it |
| 19:17:54 | nanok | that is, unless you have some reason to get the info from the file directly, instead of querying the db |
| 19:18:10 | webguest32 | I think that is what i'm going to do. |
| 19:18:46 | webguest32 | I'm trying to determine whether or not if i load a plugin after stopping playback and then attempt to get the info for the currently playing track if it will work |
| 19:20:59 | nanok | well, if i am not mistaking that info will allways be in the "current" playlist |
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| 19:21:40 | nanok | rockbox allways uses a playlist to handle playback, so if you can access that it should work even if you don't have the db enabled |
| 19:22:27 | nanok | but this is more guessing on my part than knowing, the real devs will hopefully come out and shoot me in the face if i am talking rubish |
| 19:23:11 | webguest32 | that might work |
| 19:23:32 | nanok | you mean the shotgun aproach? oh, it allways does |
| 19:23:33 | webguest32 | The only problem might be that if i stop playback there would be no currently playing track |
| 19:23:33 | nanok | :) |
| 19:23:50 | webguest32 | (in that case i could look for the previous track) |
| 19:24:28 | nanok | webguest32: i think there is, rockbox is usually aware of where it stopped, so the info is somewhere (don;t ask me where and in what form, though) |
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| 19:25:24 | nanok | yeah, i see your point. you would have to complicate things a bit: "if we're stopped, look at $previous, if we're paused, look at $current" and so on |
| 19:25:51 | nanok | maybe there's a more direct way, but i don't know nearly enough internals to say if there is.. |
| 19:28:13 | PaulJam | maybe a silly question, but doesn't the viewports patch make the %m tags obsolete? why doesn't the patch remove the %m ? |
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| 19:32:19 | linuxstb | In theory they're obsolete, but there's one feature of %m not duplicated by viewports (yet?) - the ability to use it conditionally to (e.g.) expand text to cover the space for cover art when there is no space for cover art. |
| 19:32:36 | linuxstb | ^remove the last "space" |
| 19:32:55 | webguest32 | nanok: I could also look at the resume information (wherever that is stored) |
| 19:33:36 | nanok | webguest32: good point |
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| 19:54:05 | soap | Buschel, (or anyone else) |
| 19:55:14 | soap | I have a cheap RadioShack volt-ohm meter. I could use this to measure the power consumption of a PortalPlayer target - but the question remains - how do I compensate for the varying power consumption when boosted vs. when not boosted? |
| 19:55:45 | soap | The multimeter has a serial output - would I need to write a program to calculate the average amp draw over time? |
| 19:56:23 | soap | Or would the simpler plan be to simply force the player to boost - and then perform the tests? |
| 19:56:25 | Buschel | soap: the most needed measurements right now will work without the need for boost/unboost. |
| 19:56:46 | Buschel | soap: yes, or directly forcing boost |
| 19:56:56 | soap | and a Sansa is adequate for your tests? |
| 19:57:10 | soap | or do you need it done on an iPod, or a specific iPod? |
| 19:57:54 | FunkyELF | is there a way to create an iPod database file in such a way that you can play your files under /Music from within the apple firmware? |
| 19:58:04 | Buschel | soap: in fact i do not know. hopefully we can transfer the results from sansa to ipods. |
| 19:59:05 | soap | (as I explained before) opening up my 5th gen iPod isn't going to happen anytime soon - but I could open my Nano and remove the battery, or remove the battery from my E200 and do the testing. |
| 19:59:17 | soap | (need to order the "spud bars" to open the Nano) |
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| 20:00:07 | soap | and need to make a USB extension cable with an inline tap on (I assume) the +5v line to put the ampmeter inline. |
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| 20:01:50 | shotofadds | I registered an account on Flyspray (same username) and clicked the confirmation link, but I can't log in. Is there something else I need to do? |
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| 20:07:04 | linuxstb | FunkyELF: The Apple firmware (especially newer versions) has quite small filename length limits, so it's not really practical. But there are tools around to build such databases (maybe gtkpod, some plugin(s) for foobar) |
| 20:08:04 | PaulJam | linuxstb: ok, i didn't think of that (concerning the %m tags) |
| 20:09:53 | linuxstb | shotofadds: I can't remember... Bagder/LinusN/Zagor are our admins (mainly Zagor I think for Flyspray), but they're not around atm... |
| 20:10:42 | linuxstb | soap: Thanks for the viewports builds - I assume you meant r16000, not r1600 though? |
| 20:13:30 | FunkyELF | linuxstb, too bad it needs to be FAT32....if it allowed symbolic links then you could have the file with the full name and a symbolic link to it with a shorter name |
| 20:14:06 | linuxstb | Or just don't use the Apple firmware ;) |
| 20:14:45 | FunkyELF | linuxstb, I like the rockbox firmware better but I like having options. For example to play movies or have the battery last twice as long |
| 20:15:28 | FunkyELF | linuxstb, but while I'm in my car I like to use rockbox since I'm not going to be watching movies and I can charge it while its plugged in |
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| 20:16:35 | soap | linuxstb, oops :) |
| 20:18:53 | Buschel | is the decoder (e.g. mp3) running on cop during normal playback? |
| 20:19:28 | linuxstb | No, nothing is on the COP during normal playback. |
| 20:19:34 | Buschel | ok. |
| 20:19:48 | linuxstb | (IIUC) |
| 20:20:43 | Llorean | Depends on the codec. |
| 20:20:52 | Llorean | Right now I believe only SPC makes use of the cop |
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| 20:23:36 | soap | linuxstb, fixed (both in the forums and on the builds' naming) |
| 20:24:22 | soap | and I know jack squat about the Archos players. |
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| 20:24:53 | soap | I am assuming doing 2MB builds will be universal? (same as 32MB is universal for iPod Videos) |
| 20:25:28 | linuxstb | Yes, the 8MB builds are for people that have soldered more/different RAM into their device... |
| 20:25:40 | soap | (side note - the Archos build compile _fast_!) |
| 20:25:52 | linuxstb | Indeed... |
| 20:27:28 | soap | *builds |
| 20:27:34 | amiconn | Yeah, no codecs... |
| 20:27:51 | amiconn | Archos needs less than half the time of a typical swcodec build here |
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| 20:46:47 | draeath | just wanted to say rockbox is awsome... just threw it on my sansa e200R and it's just about PERFECT (the incomplete parts far outweigh the gains, and blow the Sansa firmware away) |
| 20:47:08 | draeath | especially thanks for the FLAC support |
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| 21:01:15 | linuxstb | amiconn: I've just checked the viewports bin size increase on a Recorder build - the firmware/ changes add 428 bytes, but the apps/ changes add another 1008 bytes... |
| 21:03:18 | billenium | is there a list somewhere of what rockbox can do? |
| 21:03:51 | krazykit | billenium, the WhyRockbox lists some of it. the manual has pretty much everything though ;-) |
| 21:04:10 | billenium | whats the WhyRockbox list? |
| 21:04:20 | krazykit | it's on the wiki |
| 21:04:24 | billenium | ty |
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| 21:06:57 | draeath | silly question: is it possible to do database update/initialize in the forground rather than the background? I want to watch it's progress... (the debug (keep out!) DB status page seems to always show -1%) |
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| 21:16:57 | jayharu | oogabooga moos |
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| 21:18:08 | shotofadds | linuxstb: in the meantime a first attempt at a D2 patch is at http://pastebin.ca/842978 - it's a simple test program (bootloader build) similar to the DAX code in svn. Let me know of any comments and i'll pick them up from the logs (particularly the way I've implemented I2C, hopefully other targets can re-use it). |
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| 21:30:12 | linuxstb | shotofadds: I've only had a quick read through, but it looks good to me. |
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| 21:33:20 | shotofadds | linuxstb: thanks, i'll try and harass Zagor to let me put it on the tracker :-) |
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| 21:34:19 | YippMN | i'm trying to add a theme , in a sansa e260 , and ive droppee the theme in the root , but it only shows up in the files folder , can't add it when browsing themes ? |
| 21:34:49 | linuxstb | The theme should go in .rockbox/ |
| 21:35:13 | krazykit | YippMN, you should be to extract the theme to the root of your player just like you would a new build. it should have the proper directory structure |
| 21:36:17 | YippMN | hmm ok well ok which is it , put it on the root , or into the .rockbox folder |
| 21:36:34 | YippMN | by root i'm assuming that means just dropping it to the e260? |
| 21:36:54 | krazykit | sort of |
| 21:37:25 | krazykit | i said to extract the zip |
| 21:37:45 | krazykit | the theme.zip SHOULD have a .rockbox folder in it with the theme files where they should be |
| 21:37:48 | YippMN | the root is just the player where .rockbox and my music folder and such are, so do i accually have to put the theme into the .bockbox folder then |
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| 21:38:20 | YippMN | yes the theme does have a .rockbox in it |
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| 21:38:36 | krazykit | you should be able to copy that .rockbox into the root and everything will be in place |
| 21:38:47 | YippMN | so i dropped it on the device but it just shows up in files , and not when i go to the browse themes area |
| 21:38:58 | krazykit | what theme? |
| 21:39:12 | linuxstb | What files do you see in Files ? |
| 21:40:08 | YippMN | the theme is acotil_greens, and i se that file name in files , so i have a folder for that in the root and the .rockbox folder there also for the firmware |
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| 21:40:44 | YippMN | i extracted the theme zip to the e260 |
| 21:40:56 | krazykit | YippMN, your unzip program is doing things wrong then, if there is an "acotil_greens" folder. |
| 21:42:02 | YippMN | krazykit, how so? |
| 21:42:52 | krazykit | it should just put the .rockbox folder right in the root. it doesn't seem to do that. |
| 21:43:23 | krazykit | move the .rockbox directory that's in the acotil_greens folder into the root of your player |
| 21:44:10 | YippMN | ok what exactly is mean't by the root of my player :) |
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| 21:44:51 | YippMN | when i ope the e260 on my machine i have the .rockbox folder and music and photo folders and so on i assume thats the root then |
| 21:45:55 | YippMN | ok i must have done somthing wrong before ,as now i extracted the theme and all the files are now in .rockbox properly it seems |
| 21:47:18 | YippMN | ahh ok nevermind i'm now able to select the theme in browse themes cool :) |
| 21:47:44 | krazykit | for future reference, "root of the device" means, in windows anyway, what's right on the drive letter, basically. |
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| 21:48:09 | YippMN | krazykit, well i'm running linux gentoo , but i know what you mean :) |
| 21:48:16 | krazykit | oh, so it's the mount point then |
| 21:48:56 | YippMN | yes there you go i couldn't think whats its called |
| 21:49:13 | YippMN | so i have acotil_greens theme runing now :) |
| 21:49:33 | YippMN | , noe to better figure out resizing bmp's for back drops :) |
| 21:50:35 | linuxstb | YippMN: There's a short Linux shell script on the AlbumArt wiki page to help with that. |
| 21:51:29 | YippMN | linuxstb, oh there is , is there a link from rockbox to the albumart wiwki then |
| 21:51:57 | linuxstb | All wiki pages can be accessed via http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt |
| 21:51:58 | linuxstb | (you know what I mean...) |
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| 21:56:48 | YippMN | i can get to the album art wiki , hmm but don't see a link to album art on the wikik page hmm |
| 21:57:30 | YippMN | it says the topic doen't exist yet? |
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| 22:02:49 | draeath | i just "cd" to the mountpoint, and do "unzip /path/to/theme.zip" |
| 22:02:52 | draeath | works just fine. |
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| 22:21:08 | Casainho | Bagder: are you there? |
| 22:21:15 | Casainho | hello RB people! :-) |
| 22:21:16 | Bagder | yeps |
| 22:21:30 | Casainho | I have a question about hardware, ARMs... |
| 22:21:33 | Casainho | okok |
| 22:21:51 | Casainho | I would like to know If RB must work with an ARM9? |
| 22:22:03 | Bagder | must work? |
| 22:22:19 | Casainho | or an ARM7 will be ok, will have enought power? |
| 22:22:26 | Bagder | Rockbox currently runs on ARM7 and ARM9 |
| 22:23:04 | Casainho | well, can you estimate if ARM7 is with 50% busy, top work load of ARM7? |
| 22:23:26 | linuxstb | I would go with something faster - to support CPU-heavy codecs such as the high complexity AAC profiles (and Monkey's) |
| 22:23:29 | Casainho | thinking in future, going to ARM7 is ok? |
| 22:23:58 | Bagder | ARM7 at what clock rate? |
| 22:24:25 | Casainho | ok, I don't know, can you please say values, like ARM7 at 80MHz? |
| 22:24:47 | Casainho | I saw that ARM9 have much higher clock... |
| 22:25:07 | Bagder | yes, ARM7 is a bit of yday's tech |
| 22:25:15 | Casainho | "i like the ARM7 ones because they are relatively cheap, come in QFP package and consume lower power when compared to ARM9." |
| 22:25:29 | Casainho | spark said that.... |
| 22:25:42 | Casainho | so, we should go for ARM9? |
| 22:26:14 | Bagder | I would, but I don't have the same objectives you do |
| 22:26:18 | linuxstb | Have fun, use the i.MX31 ;) |
| 22:27:11 | Casainho | Bagder: yes, I think you mean :-) :-) I said "we" :-) |
| 22:27:32 | Bagder | yes, and I thus made the distinction |
| 22:27:50 | Bagder | it's not a joke |
| 22:28:32 | Bagder | I like a player being able to play videos, run weirdo codecs and have room for other fun things |
| 22:28:35 | Casainho | ok linuxstb , but everyone is talking just in ARM, I think others just know, have experiencies with ARM... |
| 22:29:02 | linuxstb | The i.MX31 _is_ ARM. |
| 22:29:23 | Casainho | at that case Bagder, why not Linux ? :-) |
| 22:29:36 | Casainho | linuxstb: ah, okok :-) |
| 22:29:41 | Bagder | what would that offer? |
| 22:29:53 | Bagder | Rockbox is crafted to do a good player, Linux is not |
| 22:30:05 | Bagder | Linux is a generic OS |
| 22:30:31 | Casainho | Bagder: no need to make things, since there is already players for multimedia on Linux... |
| 22:30:47 | Bagder | you talk nonsense now Casainho |
| 22:30:57 | Bagder | how would they make a good portable player? |
| 22:31:01 | Casainho | maybe, I am not experiencied.. |
| 22:31:05 | * | linuxstb has yet to find a decent linux audio player, even on the desktop.... |
| 22:31:10 | * | BigBambi too |
| 22:31:16 | BigBambi | I want foobar on linux |
| 22:31:22 | BigBambi | :) |
| 22:31:36 | Bagder | I'm very well aware of Linux, even embedded as I've worked with that for like 7-8 years by now |
| 22:32:23 | Bagder | still, if you want to build a portable media player, I say Rockbox is by far the better option |
| 22:32:34 | Casainho | well, for me the important is the fact that on Linux I can see almost every video file and listem almost every audio file - that not happens on original firmwares of DAPS... |
| 22:32:47 | Bagder | Casainho: on a portable player? |
| 22:32:53 | linuxstb | And it won't happen if you put mplayer on an ARM7... |
| 22:33:12 | Bagder | those apps you talk about are good on multi-ghz intel cpus |
| 22:33:56 | linuxstb | Casainho: I thought you were going for an audio-only player? |
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| 22:34:02 | Casainho | okok, but I think that small devices are already computers, or will be the future computers... |
| 22:34:04 | Bagder | if they were good, we would've used them in rockbox... |
| 22:34:34 | ender` | i have an e-book reader that runs linux, but all applications for it are specialized |
| 22:34:50 | Casainho | well, I think that in very low resources hardwares that RB actualy work, Linux is not possible at all!! |
| 22:35:07 | * | linuxstb points Casainho to ipodlinux |
| 22:35:09 | Llorean | Even where Linux would Run, Rockbox can generally do things Faster because it requires less. |
| 22:35:10 | Bagder | Casainho: most platforms that run Rockbox can run Linux |
| 22:35:17 | Llorean | The Gigabeat F ran Linux too didn't it? |
| 22:35:24 | linuxstb | Indeed. |
| 22:35:27 | ender` | Casainho: linux runs on routers, which are much much more constrained than most of the players rockbox runs on |
| 22:35:41 | Casainho | really? I didn't know :-) |
| 22:36:04 | Casainho | oh well.... |
| 22:36:10 | linuxstb | Bagder: Do you know much about ecos, especially their old license? |
| 22:36:27 | Casainho | I have much to lear :-) |
| 22:36:29 | ender` | eg. some models have just 2MB flash and 8MB RAM - i think the Archos players are the only one that are more constrained than this (but even there you have more storage) |
| 22:36:31 | Casainho | learn |
| 22:36:34 | Bagder | linuxstb: not really, I've poked around with it a long time ago but I can't recall any details about their (old) license... |
| 22:36:52 | linuxstb | It seems the Rio Karma ran it... |
| 22:36:58 | Bagder | yeah, I noticed |
| 22:36:59 | Llorean | And they're still distributing the firmware. |
| 22:37:10 | Casainho | okok, about inicial question: we, people that are choosing MCU for hardware RB player should use ARM9. :-) |
| 22:37:36 | Llorean | ARM9 is a pretty good choice, yeah. |
| 22:37:42 | Bagder | Casainho: let me put it this way: no manufacturer today picks anything less than ARM9 |
| 22:37:58 | Casainho | okok :-) |
| 22:38:05 | Llorean | If you're picking less than it, you may as well hunt down older players that RB already runs on, on ebay. :) |
| 22:38:08 | Bagder | ... but then again, they play videos... |
| 22:38:20 | * | ender` goes to check what his ebook reader is based on |
| 22:38:24 | Casainho | I do not want videos!!! |
| 22:38:27 | Bagder | ender`: Kindle? |
| 22:38:32 | ender` | iRex |
| 22:38:41 | linuxstb | IIUC, the license requires recipients of executables to be given any modifications made to the source - http://ecos.sourceware.org/old-license.html |
| 22:39:42 | Bagder | linuxstb: I agree it looks like that |
| 22:40:03 | linuxstb | And it seems that Rio didn't do this... |
| 22:40:14 | linuxstb | (and the firmware's still on rioaudio.com) |
| 22:40:17 | Llorean | linuxstb: My reading says the same thing. If |
| 22:40:31 | Casainho | AVR32 says that it 72 MIPS at 60MHZ |
| 22:40:57 | Casainho | is there a way to compare MCUs but that MIPS? like compare an ARM7 and an ARM9? |
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| 22:41:12 | Casainho | are that MIPs a good way to compare MCUs? |
| 22:41:35 | Bagder | MIPS is next to useless for that |
| 22:41:57 | rasher | linuxstb: 3.2 seems pretty clear |
| 22:42:19 | ender` | hm, XScale-PXA255 rev.6 |
| 22:42:53 | Bagder | ARM family that is |
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| 22:43:22 | Casainho | Bagder: okok :-) - thanks for the information - I will copy and say It to others :-) |
| 22:43:42 | * | Bagder worked with Linux on PXA255 many eons ago... |
| 22:43:43 | ender` | btw, if you're looking for an e-book reader (and don't mind paying somewhat more), i can only recommend the illiad (unless you care about battery time - it's quite a bit less than with other readers) |
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| 22:56:30 | JohnEK | Hey linuxstb, I was wondering if there's anymore info on viewports other than in the tracker? |
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| 22:57:16 | linuxstb | JohnEK: There are a couple of wiki pages, but they may be more confusing than helpful (they're not 100% representative of my patch) - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ViewPorts (and the ViewPortsDesign page linked from there) |
| 22:58:34 | JohnEK | thanks! I'll give that a read. Do viewports support left to right text scrolling? |
| 22:58:43 | JohnEK | ie. the song name is too long to fit, so it scrolls |
| 22:59:15 | JohnEK | (apologies if this is a really bad question...I'm just getting into rockbox) |
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| 23:02:59 | linuxstb | Yes, they do. |
| 23:03:38 | linuxstb | Basically, anything that you can do full-screen in Rockbox now, you can do within the confines of a viewport (in the LCD drivers, not all the apps/ code is adapted to use them yet). |
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| 23:04:59 | JohnEK | I take that to mean that scrolling is already supported in the most recent standard build...hence being a stupid question |
| 23:05:05 | JohnEK | I didn't know that though...so thanks |
| 23:05:23 | linuxstb | Yes, lines can currently scroll. |
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| 23:05:50 | linuxstb | Have you used Rockbox? ;) |
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| 23:06:08 | JohnEK | yeah I just put it on my 30gb video |
| 23:06:24 | JohnEK | I'm having a tough time finding a good theme though...so I'm considering making my own |
| 23:06:34 | JohnEK | and that's how I came across viewports |
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| 23:07:18 | linuxstb | Lots of people like Pen & Paper... |
| 23:09:13 | JohnEK | multi-font isn't in svn yet, is it? |
| 23:10:11 | linuxstb | No, it needs implementing in a better way first. |
| 23:11:10 | JohnEK | Out of curiousity, how many devs do you figure are somewhat regularly working on rockbox? |
| 23:11:40 | rasher | Over the entire history of the project, 89 contributors have submitted code. 52 have done so in the last year. |
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| 23:11:55 | JohnEK | thanks rasher |
| 23:11:57 | linuxstb | rasher: You sound like a stats-bot ;) |
| 23:12:11 | * | Bagder suspects that's an ohloh quote... |
| 23:12:15 | rasher | JohnEK: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3978/analyses/latest/contributors |
| 23:12:18 | linuxstb | How many in the last 3 months? |
| 23:12:32 | rasher | Doesn't say :-\ |
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| 23:13:37 | linuxstb | It never seems that many... |
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| 23:13:52 | rasher | Yeah, I'd guess about 30 |
| 23:14:07 | Bagder | should be rather easy to script out with svn log |
| 23:14:30 | kugel | Can I hide main menu items depending on a setting? |
| 23:14:38 | linuxstb | kugel: No. |
| 23:14:52 | kugel | uhh |
| 23:15:52 | kugel | I tried to if-else the MAKE_MENU in root_menu.c, but I get an error |
| 23:16:07 | linuxstb | Welcome to JD's world-of-macros |
| 23:16:10 | kugel | Very sad |
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| 23:18:06 | kugel | But I still wonder why I get this error |
| 23:18:13 | draeath | how often does code checked from SVN bomb out of compile with errors? |
| 23:18:23 | linuxstb | Very rarely... |
| 23:18:26 | draeath | tried last night and didn't get anywhere, i cleaned up and just grabbed a snapshot |
| 23:18:46 | linuxstb | Check the build table for the current status - http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi (red means errors) |
| 23:18:55 | draeath | i don't believe I did something wrong, slackware 64-bit, ran the automagical script that builds binutils and gcc for you, and exported my path before running |
| 23:19:32 | linuxstb | Sometimes files are missing from the snapshots - what was the error (and what target)? |
| 23:19:47 | draeath | i can't remember, and its all been cleaned out... was just wondering in general |
| 23:20:06 | draeath | some kind of error about arguments (i think a code error rather than deps etc) |
| 23:20:20 | draeath | but don't take that as 100% true, as it was last night :P |
| 23:20:33 | draeath | building for sansa e200 |
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| 23:21:44 | draeath | i can try it again... |
| 23:22:02 | draeath | still have the same snapshot |
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| 23:24:14 | kugel | linuxstb: Can you explan that error for me? "root_menu.c:423: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'if' |
| 23:24:18 | kugel | " |
| 23:24:58 | draeath | ok just to make sure... I moved to my temp build directory (is parallel with tools/), ran ../tools/configure, and am now running just 'make' |
| 23:26:29 | draeath | OK, compile output is here: (not much, error is fairly early) |
| 23:26:30 | draeath | http://pastebin.com/m5da7e5cd |
| 23:26:44 | linuxstb | kugel: Can you pastebin the relevant part of the code? |
| 23:27:08 | rasher | draeath: Select e200 instead. |
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| 23:27:33 | saratoga | anyone had a chance to look at the Cowan D2 patch ? |
| 23:27:39 | draeath | i have an e200r, will it work? |
| 23:27:39 | saratoga | i'm wondering if that can go into SVN soon |
| 23:27:51 | rasher | draeath: yes, the e200r target is only relevant for building the bootloader. |
| 23:27:55 | draeath | aaah |
| 23:27:56 | draeath | i see |
| 23:28:58 | kugel | www.pastebin.ca/843150 |
| 23:29:00 | draeath | and i SHOULD never need to build the bootloader again, really |
| 23:29:03 | draeath | right? |
| 23:29:15 | krazykit | right. |
| 23:29:35 | kugel | line 15 in the pastebin is line 423 in my root_menu.c |
| 23:30:21 | draeath | Should I have known to pick e200? |
| 23:30:43 | draeath | (building fine now, btw - thanks) |
| 23:31:25 | rasher | draeath: not really, no. |
| 23:31:27 | linuxstb | kugel: You can't put an if() statement outside of a function. |
| 23:31:40 | kugel | ah |
| 23:31:49 | draeath | Thanks, I get worried when I realize i may have missed some important bit of docs ;) |
| 23:31:50 | kugel | right |
| 23:32:09 | Bagder | draeath: I would rather consider it a bug... |
| 23:32:13 | linuxstb | kugel; IIUC, menu items can have a callback function attached which tell the menu code whether they should be displayed or not. See the Radio item for example (on some targets, radio is detected at run-time). |
| 23:32:52 | rasher | Bagder: Is adding "echo 'use e200 instead'; exit" to configure at an appropriate place reasonable? |
| 23:33:23 | Bagder | yes, or just silently switch to that internally |
| 23:33:30 | linuxstb | Or just not offer anything apart from a bootloader or installer build if the e200r target is chosen. |
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| 23:33:57 | draeath | i think that is a better idea linuxstb |
| 23:34:01 | linuxstb | Hmm, silently switching would hide what's going on though. |
| 23:34:24 | Bagder | would it really? it's still building rockbox for e200r |
| 23:34:34 | Bagder | it just happens to be the same |
| 23:34:37 | linuxstb | It's building something identical to the e200 though... |
| 23:34:38 | draeath | it builds a bootloader for e200r though doesn't it? |
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| 23:34:59 | * | linuxstb doesn't really feel strongly either way |
| 23:35:10 | Bagder | well, I don't have any strongs feelings about it either |
| 23:35:27 | linuxstb | Whoever implements it gets to choose then ;) |
| 23:35:28 | rasher | I'm ready to commit "complain and exit" if that's okay? |
| 23:35:37 | linuxstb | Ah, option 3... |
| 23:35:37 | Bagder | sure |
| 23:35:52 | linuxstb | Well, it's as good as anything - go ahead. |
| 23:36:28 | draeath | better than "menus/main_menu.c:249: error: 'LANG_DISK_NAME_MMC' undeclared (first use in this function)" |
| 23:36:31 | draeath | :P |
| 23:37:02 | rasher | You're not the first |
| 23:37:56 | linuxstb | We could just remove the e200r target, and make the e200 bootloader build run scramble twice, creating the two different bootloaders... |
| 23:38:11 | draeath | hmm, i like that idea |
| 23:38:16 | linuxstb | s/we/someone/ ;) |
| 23:38:19 | Bagder | not a bad idea |
| 23:38:25 | draeath | much more elegant. |
| 23:38:28 | rasher | Or unify the bootloader.. |
| 23:38:42 | linuxstb | It's a file format issue - two different mi4 versions.; |
| 23:38:46 | draeath | can that be done? different keey and such right? |
| 23:38:51 | linuxstb | The actual bootloaders are identical. |
| 23:38:54 | rasher | ah |
| 23:39:09 | draeath | yea, the e200r has some rhapsody DRM key BS in it |
| 23:39:14 | Casainho | bye bye RB people :-) |
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| 23:39:28 | linuxstb | bye bye crazy hardware person ;) |
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| 23:39:50 | Bagder | *g* |
| 23:41:05 | draeath | hmm, silly question here: there is an option to flip the whole display upside-down. How hard would it be to have a 90-degree rotate option? |
| 23:41:28 | krazykit | draeath, very. |
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| 23:42:24 | draeath | well, thanks for entertaining my silly questions |
| 23:42:34 | krazykit | actually, it might be easier with viewports now, but it's still complex |
| 23:43:16 | krazykit | i believe the issue stems from how everything is drawn (there are better explanations in the logs) |
| 23:43:42 | draeath | its nothing critical, I was mostly curious as I saw the one option but not the other |
| 23:44:53 | krazykit | there actually was a patch that did this for the gigabeat, but it was not rotate-at-runtime |
| 23:46:41 | draeath | anyone know the maximum frequency an e200r can output? 44100Hz? |
| 23:46:55 | draeath | (not sure where else to bother about finding that kind of thing) |
| 23:47:31 | linuxstb | I don't know, but Rockbox resamples all music to 44.1KHz anyway. |
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| 23:51:56 | kugel | linuxstb: "recent bookmarks" does only show up in the main menu when I activate bookmarks |
| 23:52:06 | kugel | so there must be a way for me |
| 23:53:00 | draeath | where the heck can i find instructions on using the onscreen keyboard? (saving radio presets) |
| 23:54:21 | rasher | draeath: why, the fine manual of course |
| 23:54:31 | draeath | looking, and not finding |
| 23:54:35 | kugel | use left/right and the scroll wheel to browse through the chars |
| 23:54:46 | rasher | There's a section about the "virtual keyboard" somewhere iirc. |
| 23:54:47 | kugel | and play button to save |
| 23:54:56 | rasher | kugel: which is really an awful combination to use |
| 23:54:57 | draeath | ah thats what i needed (play button) |
| 23:55:27 | draeath | found it "virtual keyboard" was the term i was looking to search for |
| 23:55:37 | kugel | rasher: Not my fault. Btw I have a patch on the tracker to change the keyboard keymap for e200 |
| 23:56:14 | rasher | I know it's not. Didn't know that was your patch though, but I really think the current keymapping is suboptimal at least. |
| 23:56:27 | rasher | To avoid saying awful. |
| 23:56:37 | kugel | you might have a look on fs#7873 then |
| 23:57:23 | kugel | I'm using my patch ever since, and (of course ;) ) I like it way more than the svn keymaps |
| 23:58:28 | draeath | kugel, you got my attention... can I see a URL? |
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