| 00:00:24 | draeath | whats the select/menu buttons do now? |
| 00:00:27 | duvnel1 | modifying the code.. I want to #define HAVE_TOUCHPAD for the iRiver H10, is this a change to the configure script, or is there an .h file for each model? what file do I need to change for this to official work? |
| 00:00:40 | duvnel1 | I'm implementing the slider pad and I need that #defined |
| 00:00:55 | duvnel1 | it works when I manually define it, but I want to know the correct place |
| 00:01:38 | Bagder | touchpad is for touch screen devices I think, but the places is in firmware/export/config-[device].h |
| 00:01:56 | draeath | kugel: i see now, didn't read updates |
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| 00:02:08 | duvnel1 | thx |
| 00:02:11 | duvnel1 | it is what I need |
| 00:02:37 | draeath | thanks, will be applying patch Kugel |
| 00:03:09 | kugel | you are the first one I guess, besides me |
| 00:04:05 | draeath | makes more sense to me for sure :D |
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| 00:04:34 | draeath | now you should fix robotfindskitten :P (scroll wheel moves character up/down) |
| 00:04:36 | draeath | :P |
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| 00:08:12 | rasher | imho, the plugin actions should be changed for targets with a wheel, to not use that for up/down |
| 00:09:08 | draeath | kugel, how do I use this patch? I have it in the rockbox source directory (./apps, ./tools etc is in with it) |
| 00:09:14 | draeath | patch -i PATCHFILE yells at me |
| 00:09:25 | draeath | (not a programmer) |
| 00:09:36 | kugel | I allways do patch -p0 < PATCHFILE |
| 00:09:42 | linuxstb | rasher: In some cases I think it makes sense - e.g. pong? |
| 00:09:49 | draeath | thats -p0 as in zero right? |
| 00:10:00 | kugel | ehm yea |
| 00:10:20 | rasher | linuxstb: I think the logic should be reversed though |
| 00:10:45 | linuxstb | rasher: You're talking Sansa with it's odd up/down naming for the wheel? |
| 00:11:10 | rasher | linuxstb: no, I mean that the PLA thing shouldn't use the wheel for up/down |
| 00:11:38 | linuxstb | I was talking about your comment about the logic being reversed. |
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| 00:13:43 | draeath | so to install, i just have to unzip the new rockbox.zip into the player right> |
| 00:16:31 | linuxstb | yes |
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| 00:22:09 | draeath | kugel, when running my text editor my screen blanks untill i do something... is that normal? |
| 00:22:26 | kugel | not sure what you mean |
| 00:23:05 | draeath | i start the text editor plugin and my screen goes dead immediatly, untill i hit a button. If i hit menu (to back out i guess) it goes blank again, one more press puts me on plugin menu |
| 00:24:13 | draeath | oh, the backlight is on during this |
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| 00:26:28 | davidfg4 | I am using a sansa e280, is there a way to not have it restart into the original firmware when connected to a computer? |
| 00:26:40 | davidfg4 | To listen to music while it charges? |
| 00:27:14 | saratoga | davidfg4: just plug it in while rockbox is on |
| 00:27:35 | saratoga | keep in mind though, while it will power the device off the USB, it will not charge in rockbox |
| 00:27:43 | davidfg4 | it automatically restarts into the original firmware |
| 00:27:53 | saratoga | are you running an old build? |
| 00:27:58 | saratoga | that was removed some time ago |
| 00:28:03 | davidfg4 | no, pretty recent |
| 00:28:22 | saratoga | which one |
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| 00:28:49 | davidfg4 | There is no way for it to be plugged in and off, so it has to charge and run off usb at the same time |
| 00:29:20 | davidfg4 | r15971-071224 |
| 00:29:49 | draeath | any idea WHY it won't recharge? whats missing? |
| 00:30:00 | saratoga | FS #8363 |
| 00:31:21 | davidfg4 | It is recharging, but when connected to a computer, it goes to the original firmware, whether it was off or in rockbox |
| 00:32:07 | saratoga | try updating your build |
| 00:32:13 | saratoga | i just confirmed that it does not restart |
| 00:32:26 | davidfg4 | ok |
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| 00:35:47 | davidfg4 | still restarts... |
| 00:36:16 | davidfg4 | it flashes the usb symbol on the screen and restarts |
| 00:36:52 | saratoga | is this the official build? |
| 00:37:09 | davidfg4 | yes |
| 00:37:46 | davidfg4 | it's the "current build" right off of rockbox.org |
| 00:39:17 | davidfg4 | do i need to apply FS #8363 and compile it myself? |
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| 00:43:14 | saratoga | davidfg4: I installed r16001 and plugged/unplugged USB a few times |
| 00:43:21 | linuxstb | amiconn, jhMikeS: Is this the usual ipod PP5002 problem? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14771.0 |
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| 00:43:36 | saratoga | i got it to reboot one time, but after that it just stays in rockbox and have not gotten it to happen again |
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| 00:44:54 | davidfg4 | Note this only happens when plugged into the computer, not a AC to usb charger |
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| 00:45:32 | saratoga | davidfg4: yes I am using a computer as well |
| 00:45:46 | rasher | saratoga, davidfg4: What are you connecting it to? Windows or Linux? |
| 00:45:51 | davidfg4 | linux |
| 00:45:54 | saratoga | I'm using Windows |
| 00:46:10 | rasher | I think I've noticed differences in behavior |
| 00:46:10 | saratoga | i don't think that should matter |
| 00:46:26 | saratoga | the reboot is supposed to be disabled entirely |
| 00:46:38 | davidfg4 | If it plug it in shortly after rockbox starts it will stay in rockbox |
| 00:47:27 | davidfg4 | but if it's been on more than 10 seconds it will restart |
| 00:48:16 | davidfg4 | sometimes |
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| 00:50:06 | davidfg4 | never mind about the "shortly after" thing, it still seems random |
| 00:50:14 | davidfg4 | whether it restarts or stays |
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| 00:52:36 | misteralarming | does anybody know were to get a video plugin for a toshiba f series |
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| 00:53:35 | saratoga | misteralarming: mpegplayer is built in |
| 00:54:00 | misteralarming | really? |
| 00:54:09 | misteralarming | thanx |
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| 00:55:11 | kugel | linuxstb: thanks for your help, I've done it |
| 00:55:26 | kugel | linuxstb: hide main menu items I mean |
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| 01:10:58 | lyon8 | hi ;) |
| 01:11:00 | baratrion | hi all, who is responsible for opening a svn account |
| 01:11:14 | linuxstb | What do you mean? |
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| 01:13:10 | lyon8 | I'm using Rockbox with an iriver h320 and i got some artifacts on my display, just like "salival" in this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7257.0 |
| 01:13:41 | lyon8 | but the bad thing is: I'm not so much into coding and i don't really understand how i can fix the problem |
| 01:14:08 | baratrion | linuxstb: I have a translation for RockboxUtility to be committed but I do not have an account to authenticate |
| 01:14:23 | lyon8 | i figured out now, how to compile Rockbox on my linux system |
| 01:14:40 | lyon8 | but i'm not sure how to set the longer waitstates |
| 01:14:44 | linuxstb | baratrion: You should create a patch, and post it to the patch tracker. Someone with SVN write access will then review and commit. |
| 01:15:51 | lyon8 | what files do i have to edit and how do i get the correct hex-string for the waitstate-number? |
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| 01:18:58 | lyon8 | amiconn: are you there? |
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| 01:27:45 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: yeah, that's the deal with that. |
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| 01:32:47 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: So I see... So the answer in future is to just try random daily builds from the last month until you find one that works? |
| 01:39:02 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: that's basically it. amiconn noticed that 1,2,3g all seem to be broken or not at the same time too. |
| 01:41:51 | kropt | is FS #6796 scheduled to be replaced by viewports? |
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| 01:46:23 | linuxstb | kropt: I think so, but I don't understand why that patch is needed... |
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| 01:47:13 | kropt | linuxstb, quite honestly, i'm not sure what exactly the patch does |
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| 02:14:24 | lyon8 | ok, i got it so far |
| 02:15:57 | lyon8 | i found out that: 0x00003d80 means 15 waitstates, 0x00002180 = 8, 0x00000580 = 1 , 0x00001580 means 5 |
| 02:16:21 | lyon8 | can somebody please explain me how to "decode" this stuff? thanks |
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| 02:26:00 | hcs | lyon8: shift right 10 bit for number of waitstates |
| 02:26:06 | hcs | *10 bits |
| 02:27:23 | hcs | lower 10 bits always 0x180 |
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| 02:36:44 | lyon8 | hcs: can you give me an example please? :D |
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| 02:37:26 | hcs | what are you trying to do? do you want code? I don't even know what the context of this is |
| 02:37:54 | lyon8 | i have to set the waitstates in the Rockbox-code |
| 02:38:46 | Llorean | hcs: H300 LCD glitching due to insufficient waitstates, if I recall. |
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| 02:38:59 | hcs | (waitstates<<10)|0x180 |
| 02:38:59 | lyon8 | cause they're written there in this form and not in decimal...? |
| 02:39:06 | hcs | oh, vice versa |
| 02:39:13 | saratoga | if you just want to know how to shift 10 bits to the right, then its var2 = var >> 10; |
| 02:39:45 | lyon8 | so i cannot calculate it in my head? |
| 02:39:51 | saratoga | sure you can |
| 02:40:08 | saratoga | convert to binary, remove 10 bits, convert back to hex |
| 02:40:43 | lyon8 | oh shit...i think i have to find a calculator for this :D |
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| 02:47:38 | lyon8 | 15 in binary is 1111 and in Hex F |
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| 02:51:19 | DvsDmn | :-) hi |
| 02:51:30 | lyon8 | ;) |
| 02:53:06 | lyon8 | I'll be back |
| 02:53:09 | lyon8 | perhaps |
| 02:53:18 | lyon8 | gn8 ;) |
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| 02:53:39 | DvsDmn | :-) |
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| 03:43:43 | kugel | I have a problem |
| 03:44:05 | kugel | I want to set a directory as music directory |
| 03:44:21 | kugel | just like it's done for the recording directory |
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| 03:44:41 | kugel | but it doesn't work, and the recording directory code doesn't seem to work either |
| 03:44:48 | JdGordon | ? |
| 03:45:13 | kugel | I'm in onplay.c |
| 03:45:42 | JdGordon | get out while you still have your sanity!! |
| 03:45:50 | kugel | ? |
| 03:46:09 | kugel | lol |
| 03:46:29 | JdGordon | ok, whats the prob? |
| 03:47:21 | kugel | www.pastebin.ca/843413 |
| 03:47:37 | kugel | this is the code for setting the recoding dir |
| 03:48:01 | kugel | I want to set a directory as music directory, it's pretty similar |
| 03:48:19 | JdGordon | ok |
| 03:48:25 | kugel | but it doesn't work! no path gets written into the config |
| 03:48:41 | kugel | neither for my music dir nor for the rec dir |
| 03:48:46 | JdGordon | I assume youve added it to settings.h? |
| 03:49:06 | JdGordon | to the global_Settings struct |
| 03:49:15 | kugel | yea |
| 03:49:29 | kugel | char path_to_music[MAX_FILENAME+1]; |
| 03:49:43 | JdGordon | ok, go into settings_list.c and search for rec_directory and copy that |
| 03:49:53 | kugel | I did that |
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| 03:51:24 | JdGordon | pastebin a full svn diff |
| 03:51:37 | saratoga | ugh i just hit commit on the wrong file |
| 03:51:43 | saratoga | how do I uncommit something? |
| 03:52:57 | JdGordon | commit the reverse diff? |
| 03:53:07 | saratoga | how do I generate it? |
| 03:53:47 | saratoga | ah i see |
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| 03:53:58 | JdGordon | svn diff -rold:new |
| 03:54:00 | kugel | www.pastebin.ca/843417 |
| 03:55:40 | JdGordon | odd |
| 03:55:47 | JdGordon | I dont see anything obviously wrong there |
| 03:56:18 | kugel | I mostly copied from setting the rec directory |
| 03:56:31 | kugel | but, that doesn't work so that might be the problem |
| 03:57:22 | JdGordon | rec directory should work |
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| 03:58:34 | psycho_maniac | just curious, why would you want to set the music directory? |
| 03:58:39 | kugel | nothing happens when I hit "Set as recording directory" |
| 03:59:57 | kugel | psycho_maniac: I want to replace the database item in the main menu for those who prefer to browser their music in the filebrowser |
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| 04:00:21 | JdGordon | kugel: you know that patch wont be accepted right? |
| 04:00:30 | psycho_maniac | so when you hit "database" it will just go to your music directory? |
| 04:01:00 | kugel | yes, except that it's not called database, but music |
| 04:01:26 | kugel | JdGordon: I don't know that, but I didn't think about that yet |
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| 04:02:16 | psycho_maniac | I think that if Database isnt set up then it shouldnt show up in the main menu. but i still like it in the main menu |
| 04:02:51 | kugel | I have a setting implemented |
| 04:03:09 | kugel | either the database or the music item shows up |
| 04:03:15 | kugel | not that I kill the database |
| 04:04:15 | kugel | JdGordon: Why doesn't have a chance for committing? |
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| 04:05:21 | Clickster | Hi all :D |
| 04:05:38 | Clickster | have a slight problem, anyone willing to help? |
| 04:05:58 | psycho_maniac | just state your problem |
| 04:06:47 | Clickster | Well, i saved bootloader version 7-pre3 to my player, then clicked on it and it said "ROLO, executing" and has been on this screen for a good few minutes now. |
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| 04:07:52 | psycho_maniac | I dont think thats how your supposed to update the bootloader. What player? |
| 04:07:57 | Clickster | by clicked i mean, short press of navigation stick... (Iriver-H140 btw, forgot that) |
| 04:08:10 | Clickster | nah, i realised just after i'd clicked it, damn tiredness |
| 04:08:56 | Clickster | any suggestions? should i try switching it off? |
| 04:10:02 | kugel | JdGordon: Are you gone? |
| 04:10:03 | psycho_maniac | well i dont think you can do anything to the player the way it is. and if you dont do anything its just going to kill the battery. |
| 04:10:20 | Clickster | Hmmm, what'd you suggest I do? |
| 04:11:01 | psycho_maniac | If that was me I would reset it, but im not sure what other people think . |
| 04:11:23 | Clickster | Anyone else got an opinion? Thanks btw psycho_maniac |
| 04:11:37 | JdGordon | kugel: soz, back |
| 04:11:45 | JdGordon | its just my opinion that it wont get it |
| 04:11:48 | Clickster | stuff it, think i'll just go for the reset, *touch wood it doesn't brick it* |
| 04:11:59 | kugel | And why? |
| 04:12:04 | kugel | Just curious |
| 04:12:15 | JdGordon | because its pointless and add nothing? |
| 04:13:07 | kugel | nah, it adds a save of 1 click and probably scrolling, including applying a proper file filter |
| 04:13:19 | kugel | anyway, do you have any idea why it doesn't work? |
| 04:13:21 | Clickster | ok, pheew, doesn't boot RB anymore, just poxy old iriver firmware |
| 04:13:48 | psycho_maniac | I would suggest to read on the wiki how to update the bootloader properly on the iriver |
| 04:14:25 | JdGordon | kugel: no, i cant see why it wouldnt work :( |
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| 04:14:59 | Clickster | Yeah, don't entirely understand it though (is it just "open with-flash...." to the bootloader file? |
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| 04:15:21 | kugel | any idea who could have made the code for setting the rec dir? |
| 04:16:10 | psycho_maniac | does it know why to set that directory? like I have to set this directory so (this) can do (that) |
| 04:16:38 | JdGordon | kugel: I might..... |
| 04:16:41 | JdGordon | it was me :p |
| 04:16:47 | kugel | oh |
| 04:17:29 | kugel | I've noticed on my e200 once, but I didn't care since I rarely use recording |
| 04:17:47 | JdGordon | I dont use it so thought it works... it doesnt with svn? |
| 04:18:03 | Clickster | ooop no, rockbox is still working. |
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| 04:18:46 | JdGordon | I think i know your p[roblem :) |
| 04:19:04 | kugel | No, it doesn't work with svn |
| 04:19:07 | JdGordon | kugel: you have to double check... but I dont think selected_file is the full path |
| 04:19:11 | psycho_maniac | oh yeah Clickster when you reset the player it will go into the OF first then turn it off and then on again, or reset it again, i cant remember. and it will load rockbox. |
| 04:20:15 | * | JdGordon has nfi how viewports is supposed to work with screen_access :'( |
| 04:20:34 | Clickster | Yeah, cheers :D Can anyone explain how to upgrade to bootloader version 7-pre3 on the H140 in idiots terms? |
| 04:20:54 | psycho_maniac | Did you look on the wiki? |
| 04:21:04 | kugel | JdGordon: Even if it would be the full path, there's nothing written into the config.cfg |
| 04:21:29 | JdGordon | add a settings_save() after the strncpy |
| 04:22:52 | psycho_maniac | Clickster: actually i would check the manual |
| 04:23:30 | Clickster | Ohh yeah, misread a part of it, long click on it not a short one. Thanks |
| 04:24:27 | kugel | JdGordon: yea, that helps |
| 04:24:47 | kugel | setting rec dir works now |
| 04:25:38 | Clickster | ok, take two |
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| 04:26:59 | kugel | JdGordon: you should commit that bugfix asap ;) |
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| 04:28:59 | Clickster | phew, flashed a new bootloader, thanks psycho_maniac :D |
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| 04:30:09 | countrymonkeyweb | I built a sim to try the fm radio in rb since I don't have an fmradio target, but it just says no presets. Why? |
| 04:31:18 | psycho_maniac | because there are none. you have to set them |
| 04:32:11 | Clickster | "The ROM image is run directly from flash ROM. The RAM image is loaded from ROM and executed in RAM. It's recommended to have the ROM image present, because it can be started using the reset button and the bootloader's reset cookie failsafe system." what exactly does this mean? |
| 04:32:29 | Clickster | is it saying it's best to use the ROM image? |
| 04:32:50 | Clickster | ... directly from ROM |
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| 04:34:40 | kugel | great |
| 04:34:51 | kugel | patch is working |
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| 04:39:50 | Clickster | Woop, successfully flashed RB :D |
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| 05:01:20 | duvnel1 | ok, I've got a patch file ready that implements pretty decent sliderpad functionality for the iRiver H10 series |
| 05:02:33 | duvnel1 | should I just submit it via the patches link on the left side of the homepage? |
| 05:03:11 | duvnel1 | does anyone else use the H10 here? |
| 05:04:10 | duvnel1 | (6gig) I've noticed that the docs mention a auto meter during playback, but I don't have one on mine.. also the playback hangs for several periods on when I start playback for some time. |
| 05:05:05 | psycho_maniac | yes submit it via the patches link |
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| 05:06:06 | duvnel1 | registering.. |
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| 05:19:36 | duvnel1 | submitted |
| 05:19:41 | psycho_maniac | hurray |
| 05:19:44 | duvnel1 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8409 |
| 05:23:06 | duvnel1 | my first of perhaps many future contributions :) |
| 05:23:22 | psycho_maniac | now lest hope somebody with a h10 test t |
| 05:23:28 | duvnel1 | now for the clicky noise when the user presses a button .. ooooOOOoooo so important |
| 05:23:33 | duvnel1 | I tested it :) |
| 05:25:16 | Yiggi | I don't think I missed it, but I haven't seen anything about watching "normal" i.e. non mpeg movies I have on my ipod in Rockbox. Is that possible or do I have to reboot into the original Ipod software to do that? |
| 05:25:42 | psycho_maniac | you mean videos you add via iTunes? you have to use the OF for that. |
| 05:26:49 | Yiggi | Yes. OF = Original Firmware? Oh well, not too much of a hassle I suppose. |
| 05:28:36 | psycho_maniac | yes OF= original firmware |
| 05:30:23 | duvnel1 | probably an encryption issue there |
| 05:32:00 | psycho_maniac | no just rockbox doesnt support those videos |
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| 06:16:42 | veganarkismo | Hi :) |
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| 06:16:55 | veganarkismo | Does anyone know how to get album art onto rockbox? |
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| 06:17:03 | loklaan | umm |
| 06:17:18 | loklaan | does your theme cover album art? |
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| 06:17:47 | veganarkismo | yes, it's the "black glass + album art" theme |
| 06:17:51 | loklaan | ah |
| 06:18:01 | loklaan | well |
| 06:18:19 | loklaan | firstly, you have to have the album art in .bmp format |
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| 06:18:48 | veganarkismo | ooh |
| 06:18:51 | loklaan | yep |
| 06:18:57 | veganarkismo | where are the album art image files stored? |
| 06:19:06 | loklaan | and the cover art has strick naming rules |
| 06:19:11 | loklaan | 1. ./ filename .bmp - same filename as currently playing music file |
| 06:19:11 | loklaan | 2. ./ albumtitle .bmp - name of the album, found in metadata of the music file |
| 06:19:11 | loklaan | 3. ./ cover.bmp |
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| 06:19:11 | loklaan | 4. ../ albumtitle .bmp |
| 06:19:11 | loklaan | 5. ../ cover.bmp |
| 06:19:23 | loklaan | thats the naming options |
| 06:19:36 | loklaan | they have to be in the same directory as the music your playing |
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| 06:19:57 | krazykit | loklaan, in the future, please link the wiki page and don't flood the channel like that |
| 06:20:10 | veganarkismo | oh ok thanks :) |
| 06:20:14 | loklaan | oh poo i just came on here to ask a question sorry |
| 06:20:33 | loklaan | urgh yeah anyway http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt |
| 06:20:48 | veganarkismo | lol |
| 06:21:32 | veganarkismo | cheers |
| 06:21:33 | loklaan | can anyone tell me how..i have rockbox source, because i wanted to apply some patches to things, but i dont know how to boot of the source, can anyone help me here? |
| 06:21:34 | veganarkismo | :) |
| 06:21:36 | loklaan | np man |
| 06:22:00 | krazykit | loklaan, have you read the SimpleGuideToCompiling page? |
| 06:22:17 | krazykit | and WorkingWithPatches (i think it's called) |
| 06:22:19 | loklaan | oo no that would be a great help though, is it in the wiki? |
| 06:22:24 | krazykit | yes it is |
| 06:22:28 | loklaan | yeah workingwithpatches yep read that |
| 06:22:43 | loklaan | ok thanks heaps krazykit ;] |
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| 06:26:52 | loklaan | OHHHH |
| 06:27:39 | loklaan | so i apply the patches in my computer on the source, then compile it into the filan product, THEN put that on the player OMGGGG thanks so much krazykit |
| 06:28:02 | loklaan | final* |
| 06:28:39 | krazykit | loklaan, yep, that's how it works. there's some more information in the "for developers" section of the index |
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| 06:57:07 | loklaan | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 06:57:15 | loklaan | Step 2.1 couldnt be covered |
| 06:57:18 | loklaan | is that ok? |
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| 06:58:47 | krazykit | you need all of the packages other than the "if you want" ones |
| 06:59:30 | loklaan | that page wasnt in the setup.exe |
| 06:59:47 | loklaan | so i should download the packages seperatly from the websites database right? |
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| 07:00:04 | krazykit | i don't know, i don't use cygwin. |
| 07:00:08 | loklaan | Step 3 was in the install though |
| 07:00:13 | loklaan | oh ok |
| 07:01:23 | loklaan | i would ask for what you are using but unlike cygwin, i dont think it would have as many instructions written |
| 07:01:53 | krazykit | i use linux. |
| 07:02:21 | krazykit | actually though, there IS a vmware image you could use that's set up with everything you need |
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| 07:07:30 | loklaan | really |
| 07:07:47 | loklaan | do you know where it is? |
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| 07:08:12 | loklaan | and lol@using linux, that didnt even occur to me XD |
| 07:08:32 | krazykit | loklaan, should be on the wiki. do a search for vmware |
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| 07:14:17 | loklaan | awesome, looks easy, thansk for keeping your mind open ;] |
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| 07:18:53 | loklaan | its rather big though..145mb >.< |
| 07:19:21 | krazykit | it's a one-time download :) |
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| 07:27:59 | loklaan | might play a bit of counter strike source while i download everything ;] |
| 07:28:01 | loklaan | bye bye |
| 07:28:16 | loklaan | and thanks again for all your help, might be on later for morrre haha ;] |
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| 08:20:13 | kropt | happy 16000 revision, by the way |
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| 09:24:40 | replix | are there "v2" versions of the Sansa e200R series? |
| 09:25:01 | replix | or will rockbox run on _every_ Rhapsody model? |
| 09:25:33 | DogBoy | those types of questions are difficult to answer |
| 09:25:49 | DogBoy | someone would have to test every model |
| 09:27:34 | JdGordon | most likely it wont run on a v2 rapsody.. if such a thing exists |
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| 09:33:50 | replix | rockbox doesn't support USB, right? |
| 09:34:39 | amiconn | wrong |
| 09:34:56 | amiconn | At least as the huge generalisation you implied |
| 09:44:26 | replix | i mean file transfer |
| 09:44:42 | amiconn | Yes of course |
| 09:44:50 | replix | btw, am i able to play GBA-Games on rockbox? |
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| 09:45:42 | * | amiconn recommends reading the manual |
| 09:46:36 | amiconn | Rockbox runs on a total of 23 targets (that's only counting different builds) |
| 09:47:07 | amiconn | On many of them, USB is fully supported. Only on the portalplayer based targets we don't have usb file transfer support in rockbox yet |
| 09:47:17 | amiconn | (but that's in the works) |
| 09:48:09 | replix | sansa is portalplayer-based, isn't it? |
| 09:48:27 | amiconn | On portalplayer targets, rockbox reboots into the OF when it detects an usb connection, so it's kind-of supported too (although that reboot isn't 100% reliable, so you need to reboot manually sometimes) |
| 09:48:28 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:48:42 | replix | ok |
| 09:48:46 | amiconn | But you didn't say 'sansa' so far, you just said 'rockbox' |
| 09:49:17 | replix | i read somewhere on the rockbox page, that charging with rockbox is much slower than charging with the original firmware on sansa |
| 09:49:25 | replix | sry |
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| 10:00:22 | makuseru | is there a manual for the Simularor? i cant figure out what keys do what buttons |
| 10:02:59 | scorche | are you running it with −−background? |
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| 10:05:56 | makuseru | no im noty |
| 10:05:58 | makuseru | not& |
| 10:06:00 | makuseru | ** |
| 10:06:23 | lochlan | hey someone i need help |
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| 10:07:43 | lochlan | i entered the command "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" into VMware, and its compiling everything right? but to where? |
| 10:08:26 | scorche | it is downloading the source, and from that commant, it is doing it into <wherever you ran the command from>/rockbox/ |
| 10:08:44 | lochlan | ohhhh ok, i read that somewhere too |
| 10:08:50 | lochlan | how to i cancel the download? |
| 10:08:54 | lochlan | exit that wondow |
| 10:08:57 | lochlan | window |
| 10:08:58 | lochlan | ok |
| 10:09:01 | lochlan | ummm |
| 10:09:01 | makuseru | scorche: what does running -background do? |
| 10:09:38 | lochlan | i already have the source, how do i load it into VMware and then compile it? |
| 10:09:46 | scorche | makuseru: it includes an image of the device with the keys to hit next to the buttons |
| 10:10:22 | scorche | lochlan: we have a few wikipages on that subject... |
| 10:10:56 | makuseru | scorche: oh, ok. thanks |
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| 10:13:17 | makuseru | scorche: are there any automatic installers for linux? |
| 10:13:36 | scorche | makuseru: rbutil has linux binaries... |
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| 10:15:09 | lochlan | hmm still kinda blind on this |
| 10:15:50 | lochlan | i enter "cmd [foldername] to set the path to the source right? |
| 10:16:09 | lochlan | "cmd [foldername]"** |
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| 10:20:55 | Schnueff | .oO( cd ) ? |
| 10:23:17 | lochlan | yeah cd |
| 10:23:19 | lochlan | hmm |
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| 10:32:37 | AKWIN_ | hello |
| 10:35:31 | lochlan | hi |
| 10:38:02 | lochlan | can some one healp me please |
| 10:38:17 | lochlan | i im hopeless right now ah |
| 10:38:24 | AKWIN_ | what |
| 10:38:44 | AKWIN_ | don't cry, we can help! |
| 10:38:55 | lochlan | i downloaded rockbox source, now i want to "load" it in VMware(the compiler) |
| 10:39:17 | lochlan | dowbloaded it via daily builds, not the command |
| 10:39:34 | AKWIN_ | i have no idea |
| 10:39:38 | lochlan | haha |
| 10:39:55 | AKWIN_ | i'v compiled before, but that was before i got an ipod touch |
| 10:39:57 | lochlan | so you have no idea how to point out the directory? |
| 10:40:02 | lochlan | ah |
| 10:40:11 | AKWIN_ | oh, the directory? |
| 10:40:16 | lochlan | yeah |
| 10:40:27 | lochlan | do i need to put the rockbox source somewhere? |
| 10:40:33 | lochlan | and then point to it |
| 10:41:10 | lochlan | something like C:\Rockbox\rockbox-XXXXXXXX |
| 10:41:17 | AKWIN_ | why do you need to compile when you can get it precompiled |
| 10:41:28 | lochlan | patching |
| 10:41:43 | lochlan | putting in uncompiled apps |
| 10:41:51 | AKWIN_ | rockbox source cannot be compiled within the windows enviorment |
| 10:42:02 | lochlan | yeah it can |
| 10:42:02 | AKWIN_ | it needs to be put into the vmware |
| 10:42:09 | lochlan | yep |
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| 10:42:39 | lochlan | i have vmware, i just dont know how to setup the directory so i can compile |
| 10:42:53 | AKWIN_ | RELTIH LIEH |
| 10:43:00 | lochlan | :| |
| 10:43:35 | lochlan | something hitler? |
| 10:43:43 | lochlan | stranggge |
| 10:43:45 | AKWIN_ | SWEJ YTRID |
| 10:43:52 | lochlan | haha |
| 10:44:00 | lochlan | XD |
| 10:44:10 | AKWIN_ | it's the source encryption keys. |
| 10:44:17 | AKWIN_ | why is that funny? |
| 10:45:11 | AKWIN_ | and the 0x03042 key is SREGGIN |
| 10:45:22 | Llorean | AKWIN_: Please stay on topic, and stop being silly |
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| 10:45:30 | AKWIN_ | sorry |
| 10:45:42 | Llorean | lochlan: You can download the source from inside the VMWare image. See the UsingSVN wiki page, I think it was |
| 10:46:19 | AKWIN_ | anyway, does anyone have the datasheets for the ipod touch's chipset? |
| 10:46:49 | Llorean | As far as we know, they aren't plublic |
| 10:46:49 | lochlan | so i have to download it again, poo |
| 10:46:52 | Llorean | public |
| 10:47:04 | Llorean | lochlan: SVN is a better way to do it anyway, that way you can update properly without having to repatch. |
| 10:47:15 | lochlan | oh ok |
| 10:47:17 | Llorean | It also means you need to download much less each time you want to update. |
| 10:47:25 | lochlan | ohhh |
| 10:47:27 | lochlan | ok sweet |
| 10:47:32 | lochlan | didnt think of thattt |
| 10:47:41 | lochlan | you know updating, didnt even occur to me |
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| 10:48:31 | AKWIN_ | wish the ipod touch was pubic |
| 10:48:34 | AKWIN_ | public |
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| 10:53:23 | NoswarDivad | I downloaded BSD Subsystem from installer.app but it won't work |
| 10:54:47 | Llorean | What does that have to do with Rockbox? |
| 10:55:11 | NoswarDivad | Rockbox is a form of BSD, right? |
| 10:55:32 | Llorean | No. |
| 10:55:32 | scorche | no |
| 10:56:28 | loklaan | how long do you think download rockbox source from the svn will take on 1.5mb connection? |
| 10:59:08 | NoswarDivad | We have spongebob and toys, all we need now are children |
| 10:59:30 | Schnueff | half an hour? |
| 10:59:36 | scorche | NoswarDivad: please stay on topic... |
| 10:59:50 | Schnueff | it's 226M here |
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| 11:00:01 | Schnueff | ah, divide that by 2 |
| 11:00:20 | NoswarDivad | 113 |
| 11:00:29 | loklaan | is that directed to me Schnueff? |
| 11:00:33 | Schnueff | yes |
| 11:01:09 | loklaan | whats the 226m mean? |
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| 11:01:43 | Schnueff | the size, approx 226 million bytes divided by 2 |
| 11:02:17 | loklaan | and you get 113M? |
| 11:02:17 | Molester | hey kids |
| 11:02:25 | loklaan | hey old man |
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| 11:03:12 | scorche | AK-Windows: stop that |
| 11:04:00 | AK-Windows | is there a way to show files on rockbox like that of windows or mac? |
| 11:04:13 | scorche | what do you mean? |
| 11:04:30 | Schnueff | loklaan: yes |
| 11:04:33 | AK-Windows | Icons that arent just listed |
| 11:05:10 | scorche | AK-Windows: still dont get you... |
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| 11:05:57 | AK-Windows | Rockbox Icons/Menu items in an explorer like form, the icons are just listed up and down on rockbox, what i mean is like more of a grid than a line |
| 11:06:21 | scorche | no |
| 11:07:22 | AK-Windows | like this |
| 11:08:13 | scorche | dont just send me a file like that... |
| 11:11:47 | Llorean | Rockbox is list based |
| 11:11:57 | Llorean | Nobody has coded up non-list views for files. |
| 11:11:58 | loklaan | yessss |
| 11:12:02 | loklaan | i did iiit |
| 11:12:44 | loklaan | everyone congratulate me, i just compiled my first...anything haha |
| 11:13:40 | Schnueff | grats |
| 11:14:17 | AK-Windows | gnats |
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| 11:16:17 | loklaan | thanks ^_^ |
| 11:16:31 | AK-Windows | XD |
| 11:18:39 | loklaan | haha im so crap |
| 11:18:45 | loklaan | ok i did compile it |
| 11:18:51 | loklaan | but where did it go? |
| 11:18:56 | loklaan | im using vmware |
| 11:19:03 | loklaan | do i open it with vmware? |
| 11:19:26 | AK-Windows | you type make zip |
| 11:19:42 | AK-Windows | it went into the current dir |
| 11:19:49 | loklaan | oh yeah did that too |
| 11:19:55 | scorche | it is in the image...you need to transfer it off to somewhere in your computer's filesystem |
| 11:19:55 | loklaan | but where is the current dir? |
| 11:20:01 | loklaan | ohhhh |
| 11:20:07 | loklaan | whats the command for that? |
| 11:20:20 | AK-Windows | you need a util |
| 11:20:28 | scorche | no you dont |
| 11:20:30 | AK-Windows | like....WinImage |
| 11:20:34 | AK-Windows | really? |
| 11:20:43 | loklaan | vmware should have a util like that right? |
| 11:20:59 | scorche | no. you dont. |
| 11:21:03 | scorche | loklaan: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform#File_sharing |
| 11:21:17 | AK-Windows | oh, and folder sharing |
| 11:21:24 | loklaan | OH filesharing through the platforms |
| 11:21:25 | loklaan | cool |
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| 11:21:29 | loklaan | thanks once again |
| 11:21:47 | AK-Windows | i never figured out how to work the folder sharing.... |
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| 11:23:04 | loklaan | well it was piss easy for me just then |
| 11:23:23 | loklaan | \\debian\user into explorer, then put in log/pass and its all goods |
| 11:25:46 | loklaan | do i need to first put in command "make" then "make zip", or can i just put in "make zip" after establashing the dir? |
| 11:26:02 | scorche | the former |
| 11:26:09 | loklaan | ok cool |
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| 11:37:48 | khermans | why cant rbutil tell between ipod 30 or 60/80 −− in ipodpatche, it knows version and disk size |
| 11:37:52 | khermans | ? |
| 11:38:10 | khermans | it seems a simple matter of checking the disk size for that device |
| 11:39:54 | Llorean | Because the disk size isn't actually the important information |
| 11:39:59 | Llorean | The important information is how much RAM it has. |
| 11:40:33 | Llorean | If it checked and found a 40, what should it do? An 80 could be a 30 hardware with a new drive or it could be a real 80? |
| 11:40:48 | Llorean | We can't tell these things, so we play it safe and install the build that'll work on both. |
| 11:41:26 | khermans | Llorean, hrmm funny there is no way to detect the RAM size :-( |
| 11:41:50 | Llorean | khermans: You can't detect it from the PC, no. |
| 11:41:55 | AK-Windows | Use chkram |
| 11:42:16 | AK-Windows | chkram -c /dev/(device) |
| 11:42:39 | Bagder | and how on earth would that know? |
| 11:42:49 | khermans | i dont even know whatchkram is |
| 11:43:04 | khermans | doesnt seem like a std util |
| 11:43:24 | AK-Windows | Badger, it checks the ram through usb |
| 11:43:42 | Bagder | hahaha |
| 11:44:02 | Bagder | I think you better read up on how these things work |
| 11:44:25 | Bagder | sorry, I don't mean to be rude but I found it funny |
| 11:45:36 | AK-Windows | Sorry, i didn't mean to confuzzle one's ears, i was merely practical joking! |
| 11:45:45 | AK-Windows | Oh, the mirth! |
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| 11:47:37 | khermans | Llorean, can you do it by iserial ? |
| 11:47:59 | linuxstb | It _is_ possible to detect the RAM size, it just hasn't been implemented - http://ipodlinux.org/Device_Information |
| 11:50:06 | Bagder | sure, but hardly by a generic tool |
| 11:50:15 | Bagder | unless it is crafted for these devices |
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| 11:50:51 | khermans | i used lsusb to grab the serial |
| 11:51:14 | khermans | are they actually "serial" ? |
| 11:51:42 | khermans | iSerial 3 000A27001531B477 |
| 11:51:47 | linuxstb | But IIUC, we want to unify the 32MB/64MB builds anyway, so it's a moot point. |
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| 11:53:09 | Bagder | true |
| 11:53:24 | lyon8 | hey ;) |
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| 11:59:00 | lyon8 | I have been here yesterday with my H300 screen corrumption problem |
| 11:59:31 | lyon8 | i changed the waitstates and now it works fine |
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| 12:00:11 | lyon8 | but: can i set every value from 0 to 15? |
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| 12:11:11 | loklaan | does anyone have any recomendations for patches for the iaudiox5? |
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| 12:15:40 | webguest36 | hi, is someone working on the wake-up via alarm feature for the sansa E200? |
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| 12:37:26 | webguest36 | or have the AS3514 datasheet that i can implement the feature? |
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| 13:06:18 | rossw | Hi |
| 13:06:41 | rossw | Im in the market for a new mp3/mp4 player and i was wondering which of the ones supported by rockbox you guys/gals recommend? |
| 13:07:23 | bluebrother | rossw: check the BuyersGuide wiki page |
| 13:07:35 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
| 13:07:38 | rossw | bluebrother: ok, will do, thanks |
| 13:07:52 | rossw | petur: found it just as you posted a link :P |
| 13:08:30 | rossw | oh, there are only two in production... |
| 13:08:53 | petur | the rest is on ebay ;) |
| 13:09:27 | rossw | recommend one then? i dont know how to decide haha |
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| 13:10:16 | petur | it all depends on your needs |
| 13:10:44 | rossw | as long as its like 6gb+ |
| 13:10:49 | rossw | thats my only need |
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| 13:14:08 | makuseru | umm... i accidently changed the name of the rockbox folder on my MP3 player, and now when i plug it in it says " NO SYSTEM FOUND ON HDD" and when i plug it into the computer and turn it on it wont recognize it so that i can change the folder back. what can i do? |
| 13:15:06 | rossw | i might be wrong to say this since ive been in this channel 5 mins, but would it not help if you specified what sort of mp3 player you actaully have? |
| 13:15:09 | moos | makuseru: which rockbox target do you use? you have to use the original firmware |
| 13:15:31 | makuseru | rossw: no need to be a jerk |
| 13:15:45 | rossw | i wasnt |
| 13:16:00 | makuseru | moos: just /.rockbox , and i dont believe i do |
| 13:16:05 | rossw | and if you thought i was, im sorry |
| 13:16:32 | moos | makuseru: what is your mp3 player model? |
| 13:16:34 | makuseru | my mistake |
| 13:16:40 | makuseru | the Toshiba Gigabeat |
| 13:16:51 | moos | there we go :) |
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| 13:18:05 | webguest36 | is someone developing features for the sansa E200? ...because i want to implement the alarm wake-up... |
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| 13:20:46 | makuseru | so any ideas on what i can do to get it back up and running? |
| 13:21:40 | moos | makuseru: already checked this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Gigabeat_Recovery_Procedures |
| 13:22:26 | makuseru | no i havent |
| 13:22:29 | makuseru | ill try it now |
| 13:22:46 | makuseru | wait |
| 13:22:50 | makuseru | no CD |
| 13:22:52 | makuseru | darn |
| 13:23:06 | moos | try to find it via toshiba site maybe |
| 13:23:15 | makuseru | i dont use windows |
| 13:23:50 | makuseru | and im sure anyting they would have would be windows only |
| 13:25:43 | moos | webguest36: if there is no patch in the tracker, then noone is actually working in, feel free to |
| 13:27:04 | webguest36 | i found no patch for it.... i will if someone can give me the AS3514 datasheet... all i have is the AS3514 feature overview :-( |
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| 13:28:26 | moos | webguest36: you have to ask Bagder for the datasheet cause they aren't availiable for the public |
| 13:29:09 | webguest36 | @makuseru: i think OS is not important for the recovery procedure... important is to boot the device withouut the HDD than reconnect the HDD that you can see it (as mass storage device) and restore the .rockbox folder |
| 13:30:30 | webguest36 | thank you moos i will ask bagder |
| 13:32:25 | * | Buschel_ experiments with freq scaling again (or better: still) |
| 13:32:30 | moos | webguest36: no problem, maybe you can mail him? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DanielStenberg |
| 13:33:00 | moos | Buschel: courage :) |
| 13:34:04 | Buschel_ | I did change the stuff a little bit and hope to get stable scaling now. yesterday evening it ran for ~3h before I stopped the runtime test. |
| 13:35:14 | Buschel_ | that's a good sign as using 24MHz without PLL crashed with the old scaling :) |
| 13:37:07 | makuseru | moos: thanks alot, that fixed it |
| 13:37:41 | moos | makuseru: no problemo |
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| 13:39:45 | Shaid | Sansa E280. Quick question. How do I force a reboot? |
| 13:39:58 | Shaid | I was deleting files and it's decided to hang while deleting one |
| 13:40:39 | pixelma | hold "power" for 10..15 seconds will shut it off |
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| 13:41:41 | Shaid | thanks |
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| 13:55:19 | amiconn | rrrr |
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| 14:09:25 | DerPapst | hi all :-) |
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| 14:14:39 | conando | hi jesus :) |
| 14:14:46 | conando | uh papst |
| 14:14:57 | Ak-colliquy | does anyone know the way to set the PATH? |
| 14:15:48 | Ak-colliquy | I'm using my itouch for IRC |
| 14:17:35 | Ak-colliquy | hey |
| 14:18:50 | DerPapst | itouch = Logitech keyboard... |
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| 14:25:40 | moos | anyone have troubles with svn.rockbox.org ? |
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| 14:26:09 | BigBambi | moos: no, seems fine |
| 14:27:20 | moos | BigBambi: ok merci, probably a problem in my own (Unknown hostname error here for svn.rockbox.org) |
| 14:27:39 | BigBambi | de rien :) I just svn up'd fine |
| 14:28:02 | moos | here I canot :( |
| 14:28:24 | lyon8 | Ak-colliquy: export PATH="/the/first/path:/the/second/path:.." |
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| 14:40:41 | Ak-colliquy | svnner |
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| 15:11:18 | lyon8 | hmmm... |
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| 15:11:35 | lyon8 | i want do create an own build and use some patches |
| 15:12:10 | lyon8 | what source should i get? daily, svn? |
| 15:12:59 | DerPapst | svn |
| 15:13:03 | DerPapst | always. |
| 15:13:28 | lyon8 | ok, cause i tryed daily just by now, and there's not a single patch which worked |
| 15:13:48 | DerPapst | just use svn to check out the source. |
| 15:14:08 | DerPapst | also some patches might be out of sync already. |
| 15:14:54 | lyon8 | hmm..ah, ok |
| 15:15:14 | lyon8 | so I'll have a look how to use SVN |
| 15:17:33 | lyon8 | checking out means downloading it then, aye? |
| 15:17:48 | DerPapst | it's al documented in the wiki. pretty easy to use :-) |
| 15:17:54 | DerPapst | yep |
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| 15:18:51 | lyon8 | DerPapst: yeah, i just found it, thanks |
| 15:19:13 | lyon8 | should i get a recent copy or give a date with -r? |
| 15:19:29 | DerPapst | always a recent copy. |
| 15:19:41 | DerPapst | or do you want outdated builds? |
| 15:20:12 | lyon8 | i'm not sure; you know: the patches might be older and thus it could resolve in problems |
| 15:20:22 | lyon8 | just like with the daily build |
| 15:21:08 | DerPapst | heh... normally the patches that are out of sync broke weeks ago. |
| 15:21:40 | lyon8 | ah, ok |
| 15:22:05 | lyon8 | so it's pretty sure that the patches on the site work with the recent svn version? |
| 15:25:05 | DerPapst | as i said. not all patches are in sync anymore. and when they aren't they probably broke weeks if not month ago. |
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| 15:26:11 | ch4os_ | hello |
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| 15:26:43 | lyon8 | DerPapst: ah, ok...now i got it |
| 15:29:21 | DerPapst | just try which patches still work |
| 15:29:44 | DerPapst | some popular ones are getting resynced regulary. |
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| 17:14:51 | lyon8 | hmmm |
| 17:15:56 | lyon8 | i'm trying to patch the multifont-v01 with the current svn, but it doesn't work |
| 17:17:31 | lyon8 | what can i do? |
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| 17:20:10 | kugel | lyon8: the latest multifont is supposed to be applied with viewports |
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| 17:20:27 | kugel | use the version before 2008 |
| 17:20:47 | kugel | multifont-20071222.patch or something |
| 17:20:49 | krazykit | or apply viewports too |
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| 17:21:02 | kugel | well, that works too :) |
| 17:21:08 | DerPapst | what would be better anyways :-9 |
| 17:21:12 | DerPapst | *:-) |
| 17:21:21 | DerPapst | *that |
| 17:21:52 | * | kugel being close to sync custom list with viewports |
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| 17:22:27 | * | DerPapst wonders what custom list was again... |
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| 17:22:35 | kugel | 5899 |
| 17:22:40 | DerPapst | thanks :-) |
| 17:24:29 | lyon8 | ah, ok...i'll try ;) |
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| 17:32:45 | lyon8 | viewports is the first patch that worked! ole ole! :D |
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| 17:33:52 | lyon8 | but now i have a build error |
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| 17:38:08 | lyon8 | is there perhaps a "masterpatch" which includes most of the popular patches? |
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| 17:45:26 | soap | no |
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| 17:46:48 | Jonny88 | Can anybody tell me if the sansa e280's on amazon.co.uk will run rockbox? Is there a way to know if they are v2? |
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| 17:47:13 | kratonator | hi all |
| 17:47:13 | lyon8 | ok, now it worked...i had an old version |
| 17:47:16 | lyon8 | hi ;) |
| 17:47:48 | kratonator | i have a problem with my 3rd gen ipod, it doesn't boot anymore |
| 17:48:10 | advcomp2019 | Jonny88, is it new |
| 17:48:34 | Jonny88 | any ideas where I'll find a V1 new in the uk/ uk online? |
| 17:49:01 | kratonator | i'm pretty sure that this happens after the new grayscale library was introduced |
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| 17:49:26 | soap | kratonator, a little more info would be useful. Does it not power on? Does it power on and hang? Does it power on and display an error message? Have you had Rockbox working before? Is this your first time with Rockbox? |
| 17:49:51 | Cptnodegard | [17:46] <kratonator> join #rockbox <- ....? |
| 17:50:05 | kratonator | no...i have rockbox working a long long time |
| 17:50:08 | advcomp2019 | Jonny88, most of the new e200 are v2s but do not know till you get it |
| 17:50:52 | kratonator | i get a message "unexpected" message |
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| 17:51:10 | soap | kratonator, ok, sounds like this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14228.msg106703#msg106703 problem. |
| 17:51:13 | Jonny88 | Ok, is there any rockbox compatable mp3 player thats easy to find in shops? I quite liked the cowons but I can't find any for sale anymore |
| 17:51:34 | pixelma | kratonator: no it doesn't have to do with the new greyscale lib just coincidence. Somehow there are broken builds on 1st - 3rd gen Ipods |
| 17:51:44 | kratonator | "undefined instruction at 000452E0" |
| 17:51:59 | soap | coincidence abounds! I had just linked kratonator to your excellent answer, pixelma! |
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| 17:52:21 | kratonator | i tried to track it down...but i didn't get very far |
| 17:52:55 | kratonator | oh yeah, and i tried to compile it myself, didn't work either |
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| 17:55:35 | pixelma | kratonator: on Friday 2 people reported that the 2nd January daily build works on their 3rd gen Ipods (r15984) |
| 17:55:56 | advcomp2019 | Jonny88, most of the rockbox compatible mp3 player now are not made any more.. you might have a hard time tho |
| 17:56:18 | kratonator | pixelma, thanks for the info, i'll fetch that build |
| 17:56:34 | Jonny88 | Is the V2 going to be supported any time soon? |
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| 17:57:45 | krazykit | Jonny88, there is no timeline. it's not certain that it WILL be supported |
| 17:58:08 | pixelma | kratonator: the error seems to be hard to track down, for now you can just try to update from time to time and see if the build works or not, keeping the old one to be able to return back to the last workin one |
| 17:58:16 | Jonny88 | krazykit: is it in development? |
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| 17:58:53 | kratonator | pixelma, thank you, i've just read your post soap linked to |
| 17:58:54 | krazykit | Jonny88, the initial work of getting modified code to run hasn't happened yet. there's a thread in the New Ports forum about it |
| 17:59:15 | pixelma | kratonator: you can also read a bit about it here http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20080104#20:34:17 :) |
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| 18:02:13 | kratonator | pixelma, yes it does work. thanks for helping :) |
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| 18:02:36 | pixelma | you're welcome :) |
| 18:03:27 | kratonator | do you know if charging works? i connect from time to time my charger but i don't know if it charges or not |
| 18:03:49 | kratonator | or does the battery work as a buffer when "charging"? |
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| 18:05:04 | pixelma | sorry, no idea. Don't have an Ipod... |
| 18:05:37 | DerPapst | normally if you connect it to a charger it should start charging. |
| 18:06:20 | kratonator | yeah...that's what i thought too... |
| 18:06:35 | DerPapst | but i don't know if the battery icon starts to behave "different". |
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| 18:26:48 | lyon8 | ok, i attached viewports_v8, but multifonts still doesn't work |
| 18:27:22 | lyon8 | there are lots of hunk-errors |
| 18:28:22 | lyon8 | ah, ok...now it worked |
| 18:29:00 | lyon8 | i try compiling |
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| 19:56:00 | Apophisy | Hello, someone knows if there will be a port for creative zen of rockbox? |
| 19:57:15 | krazykit | only if someone with the device does the port |
| 19:57:26 | Apophisy | crap |
| 19:58:00 | krazykit | i think some headway has been made in the encryption, but i don't think they've run any custom code yet. check the New Ports forum |
| 19:58:13 | Apophisy | okey |
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| 20:10:12 | DaCapn | My little sister had a bunch of corrupted files on her hard drive and couldn't boot so I took her hard drive home to try and recover files. She's got like 300 songs she bought on iTunes and I'd like to remove the DRM for her. Is this acceptable to ask about in here? |
| 20:10:29 | krazykit | no, it is not |
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| 20:10:57 | DaCapn | shame |
| 20:11:36 | krazykit | and the issue isn't even a rockbox issue in the first place, so it's offtopic regardless |
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| 20:12:49 | DaCapn | right |
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| 20:13:05 | Apophisy | DaCapn... Ever heard of google? |
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| 20:13:39 | DaCapn | haha |
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| 20:35:59 | tge101 | can someone help me? i have an Ipod Color with rockbox and i want to install the albumart patch for the theme i have, i downloaded .patch file but no clue on what to do with it |
| 20:36:24 | krazykit | album art is in SVN now. all you need is a recent build |
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| 20:37:33 | tge101 | i have a recent build installed, but i'm not getting any album art to show, plus the theme i downloaded said it required the patch (i dont know if what you just said nullifies the requirement) |
| 20:37:52 | stripwax | tge101 - get (or create) a theme that doesn't require a patched build |
| 20:38:26 | tge101 | are there theme creators? im not to hot on programming |
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| 20:38:59 | stripwax | tge101 - if that theme requires 'only' the albumart patch it should work on the recent official builds now. if it requires other patches too, in order to work, it probably won't work on the official builds (and you probably won't get support in this official channel) |
| 20:39:05 | tge101 | do you know any themes for the Ipod Color that i dont have to patch? |
| 20:39:08 | stripwax | tge101 - not really. |
| 20:39:12 | stripwax | to the first question |
| 20:39:29 | stripwax | and to the second question, there may be several on rockbox-themes.org |
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| 20:39:53 | tge101 | thats where i got it, i think, it was one of the links on the rockbox site |
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| 20:40:18 | stripwax | does the theme you downloaded require anything more than just albumart? |
| 20:41:01 | tge101 | if the arts embedded in the mp3s with it read it from them? and if not what kind of file (.jpg, .bmp etc.) does it read? |
| 20:41:13 | krazykit | tge101, please read the AlbumArt wiki page |
| 20:41:21 | tge101 | umm, yea but i think they were just fonts |
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| 20:41:40 | stripwax | if you're not sure, we can't help you .. |
| 20:41:58 | stripwax | there are several themes that work on official builds for ipod color - look here : http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=220x176x16 |
| 20:42:01 | tge101 | im tryin to find it as we speak so give me a second |
| 20:42:15 | stripwax | Xenon looks like it supports album art without requiring any unofficial patches |
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| 20:42:49 | stripwax | [the ones that say the Min Version is 'any recent daily build' ought to work] |
| 20:43:12 | ashughes | hey guys I am having a DB glitch with rockbox on my IPod Video 80GB |
| 20:43:16 | ashughes | can someone help? |
| 20:43:25 | stripwax | what kind of a "glitch"? |
| 20:43:40 | ashughes | well I recently converted all my songs from MP3 to Ogg |
| 20:43:49 | ashughes | so I deleted the mp3s and copied over the ogg |
| 20:43:57 | ashughes | but the DB still sees the mp3 files |
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| 20:44:01 | stripwax | rebuild it |
| 20:44:04 | ashughes | so my library is twice the size |
| 20:44:07 | tge101 | well, ill figure it out i guess, one more question has there been any work on battery life? |
| 20:44:10 | ashughes | how do I rebuild it? |
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| 20:45:03 | stripwax | ashughes - http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-450004.2.2 |
| 20:45:20 | tge101 | it never says fully charged, and it drains quick |
| 20:45:41 | stripwax | ashughes - Update Now ought to do what you want |
| 20:45:50 | stripwax | tge101- how quick |
| 20:46:04 | ashughes | ok...but shouldnt it be doing this automatically with AUTOUpdate and DirCache enabled? |
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| 20:46:45 | tge101 | never timed it, but quick enough to get annoying |
| 20:47:26 | stripwax | ashughes - mm, it ought to. is it reproducible i.e. if you power down, connect it to your pc, delete a file, disconnect and power back up, is that file still in the DB? |
| 20:47:30 | tge101 | couple hours, maybe 4 tops? |
| 20:47:43 | ashughes | stripwax: yes |
| 20:47:52 | stripwax | tge101 - battery life should be longer than 4 hours, I think.. how are you charging it (using original firmware or charging while rockbox is running)? |
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| 20:48:29 | ashughes | strange thing is, I can still play the file |
| 20:48:46 | ashughes | but the file does not appear when I connect it to my PC |
| 20:48:52 | stripwax | ashughes - um, then it hasn't been deleted :-) Are you *sure* you don't have a Recycle Bin on your mp3 player ? :-) |
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| 20:49:08 | ashughes | nope, no files in recycle bin |
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| 20:49:17 | tge101 | i just usb it to my computer, the "do not disconnect" shows while it charges |
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| 20:49:19 | ashughes | is there a way I can just format my ipod drive? |
| 20:49:34 | stripwax | From the database in rockbox, you should be able to find the Path to that file. If it's in the database, *and* rockbox can play it, it *hasn't* been deleted |
| 20:49:41 | stripwax | you can format if you want, although, you don't need to |
| 20:50:01 | ashughes | stripwax: it would be easier for me to just format and copy the ogg files back over |
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| 20:50:18 | stripwax | ashughes - it would probably be easier to find these old mp3s and delete them properly :) |
| 20:50:20 | tge101 | im not sure if that screen is rockbox or still original firmware |
| 20:50:25 | stripwax | formatting is not straightforward |
| 20:50:44 | ashughes | I am not really interested in "solving" the problem...just want to have only ogg files on here |
| 20:50:52 | lyon8_ | what plugins do i need for correctly displaying a 24bit-WPS? |
| 20:50:54 | ashughes | stripwax: delete properly? |
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| 20:51:12 | ashughes | stripwax: I selected the files while connected to my PC, deleted, then emptied recycle bin |
| 20:51:26 | ashughes | then I made sure I ejected the drive properly |
| 20:51:28 | stripwax | tge101 - hm, that's still original firmware, but I don't know if that screen gives you an indication of how fully charged the battery is. if you *reboot* into Apple firmware (i.e. turn on then switch hold switch to "hold"), and charge fully until it tells you it is Charged, that should give you a better battery life in rockbox |
| 20:51:36 | ashughes | so I am not sure how more "proper" you can get |
| 20:51:53 | stripwax | ashughes - I'll say it again, if rockbox can play those mp3s, then they have not been deleted.. if they have been deleted, then they wouldn't be playable (because they wouldn't be there). unless I'm missing something? |
| 20:52:27 | ashughes | stripwax: I am thinking that somehow the tags are pointing to the same ogg file |
| 20:52:28 | stripwax | Most likely, you have them tucked away inside a hidden folder or subfolder that has been forgotten about. From the rockbox database, you can find where these files have been lurking, and just delete them |
| 20:52:31 | ashughes | as I can only see by tag |
| 20:52:51 | ashughes | so it is just duped tag references |
| 20:53:28 | ashughes | stripwax: if the update now doesnt work, is there a way to format with rockbox? |
| 20:53:42 | stripwax | Hm, so all the tags are duplicated, and they all point to ogg files? |
| 20:54:03 | tge101 | how do you reboot to apple firmware again? i know the hard reboot (menu and select) but its been a while since ive gone to the apple side of things |
| 20:54:23 | stripwax | ashughes - if there's no chance that you have duplicated ogg files on there then just try update now, and if that doesn't work, try initialize now to rebuild the db. |
| 20:54:39 | stripwax | tge101 - menu+select and then immediately flip the hold switch to 'hold' |
| 20:54:42 | ashughes | stripwax: ok thanks |
| 20:54:51 | ashughes | stripwax: and is there a way to format with Rockbox? |
| 20:54:57 | stripwax | ashughes - there's no way to format an ipod from directly within rockbox, no. |
| 20:55:06 | ashughes | stripwax: ok thank you |
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| 20:55:26 | Robin0800 | ashughes,you can use a program called fat32format if your using windows |
| 20:55:43 | BigBambi | or swissknife |
| 20:55:59 | stripwax | ashughes - unless your music is inside your ".rockbox" folder (which it shouldn't be), you can try just deleting all folders (except .rockbox) from the root. |
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| 21:01:52 | lyon8_ | hmm...seems that the WPS-Syntax has changed |
| 21:02:47 | lyon8_ | where can i find themes which work correctly with the current svn version? |
| 21:03:20 | GodEater | lyon8_: given how often svn changes, it's impossible for wps authors to mark them with a "works with current version" |
| 21:03:35 | GodEater | so the only way to tell is to try them out and see |
| 21:04:23 | rasher | I think FS #8412 (whoever reported it) was caused by using the tarball, which didn't include all rbspeex files. |
| 21:04:31 | rasher | Fixed earlier today. |
| 21:05:22 | lyon8_ | GodEater: ok, better asked: where can i find the most recent wps? |
| 21:05:45 | BigBambi | Of which WPS? |
| 21:05:45 | GodEater | lyon8_: we don't keep them sorted by date |
| 21:05:53 | GodEater | so that's not easy to answer |
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| 21:06:09 | lyon8_ | of these nice color WPS with 24bit |
| 21:06:43 | lyon8_ | hmm...you know: the problem is just that i have tryed several themes |
| 21:06:54 | GodEater | such as ? |
| 21:07:08 | Llorean | Your player doesn't have a 24-bit screen, so I don't know what you mean by "WPS with 24bit" |
| 21:07:13 | lyon8_ | but there's always just the default-wps loaded |
| 21:07:14 | GodEater | I don't believe you've even said for which target you looking ? |
| 21:07:31 | lyon8_ | http://wps.abondar.de/?name=JP&ca=2&bd=2&sort=1&pp=10 <−− these ones |
| 21:07:40 | lyon8_ | oh, sorry: it's an iriver h320 |
| 21:08:11 | lyon8_ | yeah...i call it 24bit cause the image files are in 24bit afaik |
| 21:08:12 | GodEater | lyon8_: try out cabbie 2.0 for example - that's been worked on extremely recently |
| 21:08:43 | GodEater | I don't recall any other recently advertised h3x0 WPSs |
| 21:09:14 | lyon8_ | ok, thanks...where do i find this theme? |
| 21:10:11 | GodEater | in the wps gallery on www.rockbox.org |
| 21:10:15 | GodEater | where all the other themes are |
| 21:10:58 | lyon8_ | ok, thanks so far |
| 21:11:33 | stripwax | and www.rockbox-themes.org |
| 21:11:35 | GodEater | where have you been getting all these other themes you've already tried ? |
| 21:11:56 | lyon8_ | since i'm building from source, it may also be possible that i just don't have the necessary plugins, isn't it? |
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| 21:12:19 | stripwax | lyon8_ - no, you should have all the source |
| 21:12:20 | GodEater | lyon8_: no it's not possible |
| 21:12:28 | GodEater | stripwax: rbt.org doesn't have cabbie 2.0 |
| 21:12:43 | stripwax | hm |
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| 21:13:23 | lyon8_ | ok, that helps a lot ;) |
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| 21:16:04 | lyon8_ | i just tryed ajant blue |
| 21:16:09 | lyon8_ | same problem |
| 21:16:28 | lyon8_ | i make a photo |
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| 21:28:31 | lyon8_ | ok, i got the photo |
| 21:29:06 | GodEater | lyon8_: why didn't you start with the theme I suggested ? |
| 21:29:25 | lyon8_ | i didn't see it on the site |
| 21:29:35 | lyon8_ | but I'm actually looking right now |
| 21:29:49 | GodEater | it's at the bottom of the page |
| 21:29:52 | lyon8_ | http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08010/iriver_wps.jpg |
| 21:30:32 | GodEater | I already know what the default WPS looks like =/ |
| 21:31:03 | lyon8_ | ok... |
| 21:31:38 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300 |
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| 21:34:17 | PaulJam | HI, i think FS #8181 can be closed now. |
| 21:34:52 | lyon8_ | GodEater: ok, cabbie works great ;) |
| 21:34:56 | lyon8_ | thanks a lot |
| 21:35:00 | GodEater | no problem |
| 21:35:08 | GodEater | if you feel like fixing older broken ones |
| 21:35:09 | lyon8_ | so the problem is syntax changes, right? |
| 21:35:13 | GodEater | I'm sure people would be grateful |
| 21:35:21 | GodEater | yes - there was a big change around August |
| 21:35:38 | GodEater | and no-one's really fixed up the h300 themes since |
| 21:35:56 | lyon8_ | ok...good to know; at first I want be able to listen to my music again...but then i could try to fix some ;) |
| 21:36:19 | lyon8_ | GodEater: most people still use the older builds |
| 21:36:41 | GodEater | who is "most people" ? |
| 21:37:31 | lyon8_ | most people who make fancy WPSes for their eyecandy-player ;) |
| 21:37:52 | GodEater | no - I would say in that case "most people" don't use the h300 |
| 21:38:36 | lyon8_ | this as well :D |
| 21:38:51 | lyon8_ | GodEater: what do you use then? |
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| 21:40:38 | soap | GodEater's DAP simply displays the .wps as plain text and he parses the code in his mind's eye |
| 21:40:39 | GodEater | ipod video, gigabeat f, and h1x0 |
| 21:40:49 | lyon8_ | wohoo |
| 21:40:58 | soap | it is how he does 16 bit colour on his H100 |
| 21:41:09 | lyon8_ | hehe |
| 21:41:17 | lyon8_ | sounds interesting |
| 21:41:58 | lyon8_ | i love my iriver's sound...i don't like ipods somehow |
| 21:42:13 | lyon8_ | but that's a question of taste i guess |
| 21:42:21 | * | GodEater can't really tell the difference between one player running rockbox and another |
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| 21:43:10 | PaulJam | is there a restriction how many viewports can be used in a single WPSß |
| 21:43:33 | TheDarkOne | when i connect the USB to an ipod with rockbox it's not rebooting into disk mode automatically, is there any way to do it manually? |
| 21:44:39 | GodEater | TheDarkOne: which ipod ? |
| 21:45:00 | lyon8_ | GodEater: i hear the sound difference.. |
| 21:45:06 | TheDarkOne | video 80gb |
| 21:45:23 | GodEater | TheDarkOne: shut down rockbox, then power it back on, and instantly hold select+play |
| 21:45:26 | GodEater | that will load disk mode |
| 21:46:17 | TheDarkOne | thanks :) |
| 21:47:06 | TheDarkOne | also, all my sister's files (this is for her ipod) are in .m4a, and when i first copied them they played fine, but after retagging them they aren't playing at all, any idea what i should do? |
| 21:47:31 | TheDarkOne | (used easytag for retagging) |
| 21:48:24 | GodEater | I'm not really an expert on the .m4a stuff - but as I recall rockbox requires they be in "streamable" format - which means all the metadata has to be at the start of the file. That would suggest that whatever tagging program you used moved that data to the end, and therefore has broken them as far as Rockbox is concenred. |
| 21:48:47 | TheDarkOne | i see |
| 21:49:05 | TheDarkOne | know of any fast way to conver 1300 files from m4a to mp3? |
| 21:49:08 | TheDarkOne | convert* |
| 21:49:36 | krazykit | TheDarkOne, only if you want to significantly lower sound quality |
| 21:50:47 | kugel | TheDarkOne: m4a is fine, the tags seem to be the issue |
| 21:51:10 | kugel | TheDarkOne: I tagged my m4a files with mp3tag and they work properly |
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| 21:56:10 | TheDarkOne | so strip and retag should fix it then, no? |
| 21:57:52 | GodEater | it's got to be worth a try |
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| 22:00:45 | TheDarkOne | well about to find out... |
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| 22:11:11 | countrymonkey | How come the fm radio in the sim doesn't work? I tried to use it to test out the radio in rb. |
| 22:13:16 | GodEater | does your PC include an fm radio receiver ? |
| 22:13:23 | Lear | It works, as well as can be expected without an actual radio receiver... |
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| 22:15:32 | countrymonkey | I am just running a laptop, so the answer is no. |
| 22:15:48 | GodEater | then exactly how would you expect it to work ? |
| 22:16:15 | countrymonkey | Maybe I'll get an fmradio dap. Which one is the best one, in you all's opinion? |
| 22:17:11 | GodEater | I only own one with an fm radio, so I've no basis for comparison with anything else |
| 22:17:25 | soap | the only time I use FM radio is when I am in a gym which broadcasts audio from the televisions (which are muted) |
| 22:17:28 | countrymonkey | I thought having headphones connected was good enough. |
| 22:17:46 | countrymonkey | Just like a real dap would work. But I don't know much about this stuff. |
| 22:17:58 | soap | a real DAP has an FM radio inside. |
| 22:18:11 | countrymonkey | ok. |
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| 22:19:46 | countrymonkey | Is it as clear, say, as a cheap $10 portable radio? |
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| 22:19:59 | GodEater | mine is |
| 22:20:14 | countrymonkey | What target do you use? |
| 22:21:03 | GodEater | iRiver H140 |
| 22:21:17 | GodEater | not that I use the radio much |
| 22:21:52 | countrymonkey | Cool. If I need an fm radio dap I will get an h120 then. Thx. |
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| 22:22:10 | Laserbeak43 | hi |
| 22:22:14 | countrymonkey | I don't need 40gb of storage. |
| 22:22:30 | Laserbeak43 | can someone please tell me i'm new to the rockbox site. |
| 22:22:42 | Laserbeak43 | can i use rockbox on my sansa express? |
| 22:22:46 | countrymonkey | Hey, lazerbeak. What's up? |
| 22:22:47 | soap | Laserbeak43, you are new to the rockbox site. |
| 22:22:55 | soap | oh - that's not what you were asking. ;) |
| 22:23:19 | Laserbeak43 | hehe |
| 22:23:20 | soap | No, the only models supported, Laserbeak43, are those explicitly listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org |
| 22:23:28 | Laserbeak43 | oh |
| 22:23:31 | Laserbeak43 | ok |
| 22:23:37 | Laserbeak43 | darn :/ |
| 22:23:55 | Laserbeak43 | how hard would it be to add support for the express? |
| 22:24:00 | Laserbeak43 | theoreticaly? |
| 22:24:09 | countrymonkey | very hard. |
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| 22:24:14 | Laserbeak43 | i could try |
| 22:24:31 | countrymonkey | if you are willing to open it up. |
| 22:24:35 | Bagder | a new port isn't easy nor quick |
| 22:24:37 | Laserbeak43 | a lot of reverse engineering hah? |
| 22:24:42 | Bagder | a lot |
| 22:24:48 | JdGordon | the m5 was easy and quick.... |
| 22:24:48 | soap | Laserbeak43, read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort - it will give you a proper introduction into the question you are asking. |
| 22:25:03 | countrymonkey | Why was the m5 easy and quick? |
| 22:25:04 | Laserbeak43 | thanks |
| 22:25:17 | Laserbeak43 | yeah |
| 22:25:18 | Laserbeak43 | :) |
| 22:25:19 | Bagder | because m5 is very very similar to existing targets |
| 22:25:24 | soap | because the M5 had low self esteem? |
| 22:25:24 | Laserbeak43 | what he said :) |
| 22:25:37 | Laserbeak43 | lol |
| 22:25:48 | Laserbeak43 | well the express "looks" just like a c200 |
| 22:25:56 | Bagder | not inside |
| 22:26:05 | countrymonkey | Ok, bagder. |
| 22:26:05 | Bagder | its completely totally very different |
| 22:27:00 | Bagder | Sigmatel STMP36OO series... |
| 22:27:04 | countrymonkey | MBagder, you have opened one up? |
| 22:27:16 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-09/0002.shtml |
| 22:28:08 | Bagder | no, I don't own any such thing |
| 22:28:24 | countrymonkey | Hold on a sec, gotta make a quick phone call. |
| 22:29:23 | countrymonkey | I'm back. |
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| 22:31:52 | countrymonkey | I'm curious, who originally came up with this idea which later became the great, wonderful, unable-to-say-it-in-words-it's-so-good rockbox? |
| 22:32:15 | GodEater | Zagor, Bagder and LinusN are the original threesome I believe :) |
| 22:32:32 | Bagder | pretty much yeah |
| 22:33:00 | countrymonkey | Oh. What was the inspiration? |
| 22:33:06 | GodEater | it's certainly Zagor's fault it's called Rockbox |
| 22:33:23 | countrymonkey | Why? Rockbox is a good name. |
| 22:33:26 | stripwax | sucky firmware was the inspiration :) |
| 22:33:27 | Bagder | countrymonkey: the inspiration was Zagor's and LinusN's bad experiences with the OF of the Archos Player |
| 22:33:33 | GodEater | I didn't say it was a bad name :) |
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| 22:34:27 | countrymonkey | Why is it his fault it's called rockbox? I'm glad I didn't have to choose a name... |
| 22:34:58 | GodEater | there was a vote, the term "Aurora" won, and he chose to ignore the vote, and went with the second place choice of "Rockbox" |
| 22:35:06 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ#Where_exactly_did_the_name_Rockb |
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| 22:35:31 | GodEater | Orpheus even |
| 22:35:40 | GodEater | where the hell did I just pull Aurora from ? |
| 22:35:45 | * | GodEater thinks he must need to go to bed |
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| 22:37:07 | Laserbeak43 | damn, i really wanna play NES tunes on my player(in NES format) |
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| 22:37:17 | Laserbeak43 | i mailed that guy who wrote that email |
| 22:37:19 | GodEater | buy a different player then :) |
| 22:37:42 | * | Laserbeak43 has limited funds atm |
| 22:37:49 | Laserbeak43 | i might go for a c200 though |
| 22:37:53 | countrymonkey | e200s are only $100 but then you run the risk of getting a v2 which is a no-no. |
| 22:38:07 | Bagder | the c200 are v2s too now |
| 22:38:30 | Laserbeak43 | oh |
| 22:38:33 | Laserbeak43 | and oyu can't downgrade? |
| 22:38:38 | Bagder | correct |
| 22:38:49 | Laserbeak43 | crap |
| 22:38:53 | Bagder | there are still v1s out there |
| 22:38:56 | Laserbeak43 | so what are my options? |
| 22:39:17 | Bagder | there is no player still being manufactured that can run Rockbox |
| 22:39:17 | countrymonkey | e200rs I don't think are v2s yet. |
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| 22:40:01 | countrymonkey | Buy it online. |
| 22:40:13 | Laserbeak43 | buy what online an e200? |
| 22:40:22 | countrymonkey | a player. |
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| 22:40:45 | countrymonkey | I mean a jukebox. |
| 22:40:46 | Laserbeak43 | yeah i saw some nice deals on amazon |
| 22:40:58 | Laserbeak43 | but i'll have to get info from the seller |
| 22:41:01 | Laserbeak43 | a jukebox? |
| 22:41:13 | countrymonkey | Yes. |
| 22:41:46 | countrymonkey | Check the front page for supported builds. And I tried to buy on amazon and no rockbox jukeboxes exist. Go to ebay. |
| 22:42:14 | nanok | is there a simple way to tell a v2 sansa from a functional one (pun intended) |
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| 22:42:40 | krazykit | nanok, the firmware version is the only way to really be sure, short of opening it up |
| 22:43:19 | nanok | krazykit: thanks, good to know. is there info on the rockbox page about that, on that "what to buy" page? |
| 22:43:30 | * | nanok is checking |
| 22:43:43 | krazykit | don't think so. the v2 has a firmware version 03.xx.xx |
| 22:44:15 | nanok | maybe we should add that info for everyone interested to see, i think it is very important |
| 22:44:27 | Bagder | but we also need fresh blood on the v2 porting front... :-) |
| 22:44:37 | countrymonkey | I thought v2s had a small "v2" next to the model number on the back. |
| 22:44:46 | nanok | i, for one, would have no use for a sansa if not running rockbox. it would be a paperwieght for me |
| 22:44:49 | Bagder | countrymonkey: it does, but it seems some v1s have v2-backs |
| 22:45:06 | Bagder | just to confuse us all |
| 22:46:37 | DerPapst | heh |
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| 22:48:13 | nanok | the info _is_ here |
| 22:48:15 | nanok | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
| 22:48:49 | nanok | i think though a star near the e200 and c200 in the chart should be added, to point to that comment on the page |
| 22:49:00 | nanok | just a thought |
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| 22:54:43 | Laserbeak43 | goodbye |
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| 22:56:45 | countrymonkey | Domonoky, what is stopping v1.0.4 of rbutil except for 8407? |
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| 22:58:39 | Domonoky | countrymonkey: i just returned from holydays.. so whats stopping it, is the time.. :-) |
| 22:58:56 | Domonoky | and turkish translation, nice... that should be commited.. |
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| 23:00:03 | GodEater | linuxstb: are you intending on leaving the font parameter as a numeral, even when multifont goes in ? |
| 23:00:20 | linuxstb | I haven't really thought about it - any better ideas? |
| 23:00:32 | GodEater | not really |
| 23:00:39 | GodEater | the only other option is the name of the font file I guess |
| 23:00:43 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 23:00:47 | GodEater | but that's tricky for sysfont |
| 23:00:51 | GodEater | since there isn't one |
| 23:00:54 | Llorean | I think 0 for system font, 1 for user font, and a name for anything else? |
| 23:00:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | Evening, guys. |
| 23:01:19 | linuxstb | I'm sort of assuming that there will be a list of fonts the user can specify should be loaded, and then the user somehow specifies uses for each font. |
| 23:01:22 | Llorean | 1 could really try to mean "font independent" as in "we don't care what you've chosen as your userfont" |
| 23:01:33 | GodEater | linuxstb: that's a nice idea actually |
| 23:01:56 | Llorean | linuxstb: Like the image preload tags? |
| 23:02:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | I agree. |
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| 23:02:17 | linuxstb | Llorean: I guess so, but throughout Rockbox, not just the WPS. |
| 23:02:22 | GodEater | it would certainly make the actual viewport lines a bit nicer to read |
| 23:03:11 | Llorean | So, more like the .icons file? A .fonts file can be loaded, and it contains a numbered list of fonts for that theme? |
| 23:03:18 | DerPapst | doesn't the multifont patch define fonts in the theme config? |
| 23:03:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Hey, that's a pretty good idea! |
| 23:03:41 | Llorean | Yeah, it has like font1= font2= font3= lines in the .cfg, I think. Though the names may be slightly different |
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| 23:04:15 | DerPapst | coudln't the index then be used? |
| 23:04:29 | DerPapst | 1 for font1 and so on. |
| 23:04:35 | JdGordon | linuxstb: hey, any idea how long till you commit vp? |
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| 23:04:58 | * | amiconn doesn't like the idea of having several user fonts |
| 23:05:09 | amiconn | The only exception being the targets with an lcd remote |
| 23:05:24 | BigBambi | It would make the WPS much more pretty |
| 23:05:37 | JdGordon | pretty != functional |
| 23:05:39 | BigBambi | such as having next info smaller than current etx |
| 23:05:47 | * | DerPapst agrees with BigBambi |
| 23:05:48 | BigBambi | In my mind that is more functional |
| 23:05:55 | Llorean | JdGordon: It could help you fit more info while preserving the readability if "Important" info. |
| 23:05:55 | * | LambdaCalculus37 agress with BigBambi, too |
| 23:05:57 | amiconn | It bloats the code and eats ram. |
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| 23:06:09 | JdGordon | if the patch lets the user choose how much RAM to waste then its not really that bad |
| 23:06:15 | BigBambi | However, all within aceptable programming |
| 23:06:18 | amiconn | And there are many things to fix even for the single user font we currently have |
| 23:06:21 | pixelma | too many different fonts don't look pretty anymore |
| 23:06:23 | Llorean | JdGordon: User configurable glyphcache? |
| 23:06:26 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 23:06:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Agreed. |
| 23:06:40 | amiconn | Like recording screen, statusbar, button bar, radio screen... |
| 23:06:46 | DerPapst | on most flash targets not such a big issue... and on targets with lots of ram. |
| 23:06:51 | Llorean | pixelma: I personally think no more than two are needed for most WPSes anyway. |
| 23:06:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | Cabbie's a nice theme, but I'm not very fond of the Helv10 font on the WPS. |
| 23:07:00 | BigBambi | Normally I am all for keeping it simple, but I would very much like big current track and smaller next info for instane |
| 23:07:08 | * | amiconn doesn't like the cabbie theme at all |
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| 23:07:23 | DerPapst | pixelma: i'd be happy with 3 different |
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| 23:07:34 | amiconn | The font really looks like it would disappear any time soon, and it has too little info and too much space-wasting nonsense |
| 23:07:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Especially on my iPod video... 320x240 makes the font too tiny. |
| 23:08:03 | BigBambi | No-one is going to like all aspects of a wps |
| 23:08:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | And changing it messes up the theme. |
| 23:08:18 | BigBambi | For instance I think the font is too small on the gigabeat cabbie v2 |
| 23:08:33 | BigBambi | But it is surely better than the current default |
| 23:08:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yes, that's true. |
| 23:08:45 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: it's not the 320x240 that make it look tiny but the size of the pixel... ;) |
| 23:08:49 | amiconn | Most of all, the font is too thin. I'd really much prefer the nimbus variants |
| 23:09:06 | BigBambi | For me, I just adapted it to a better (IMO) font |
| 23:09:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Wasn't someone working on DejaVuSans for Rockbox? |
| 23:09:25 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: That rings a bell from the forum |
| 23:09:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Oh yeah! Who was the guy working on that, anywho? |
| 23:10:06 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: Can't remember, but it was in the new default theme thread |
| 23:10:25 | soap | Buschel_, do you have a runtime yet for 24Mhz, no PLL? |
| 23:10:29 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: for example it's a big difference to watch the same font on the M5 display or the H100 display even though both lcds are 160x128... |
| 23:11:32 | BigBambi | This is why I will always insist that you can only really have an opinion on font size if you have looked at the target |
| 23:11:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I have that with my girlfriend's H320 and my 4G iPod color; both LCDs are 220x176. |
| 23:11:37 | BigBambi | not the sim |
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| 23:11:53 | Buschel_ | soap: not yet, is running since 3h now. at least for mpc-playback there will be minimal gain in runtime −− I gues mostly from using 24MHz instead of 30MHz |
| 23:11:59 | BigBambi | except if you are GodEater, then you are just wrong :) |
| 23:12:00 | amiconn | What info I am missing (applies to most other wps'es I saw so far): * precise volume display, going numeric while adjusting. * bitrate * audio format * peakmeters * current time |
| 23:12:05 | Buschel_ | *guess |
| 23:12:24 | BigBambi | amiconn: Why is for instance audio format important? Surely you know? |
| 23:12:34 | Llorean | amiconn: I don't think the audio format is really relevant to "new" users. And peakmeters can still cause skipping, until that's fixed I don't think it should be included. |
| 23:12:49 | Llorean | In fact I think performance has degrade somewhere, because more people are reporting skippy audio in general |
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| 23:13:00 | amiconn | What's just jabber that could be left out: * the 'now playing' bar * the rockbox logo * album art (ok, I know this is conditional...) |
| 23:13:04 | * | DerPapst doesn't like peakmeters ;-) |
| 23:13:08 | * | soap suspects audio format is "important" in that you can say 'Hey, dude, I got OGG on my iPod!' |
| 23:13:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Only targets that don't skip with peakmeters are the Archos IIRC. |
| 23:13:15 | BigBambi | soap: :) |
| 23:13:17 | pixelma | Llorean: most of those reports are "skipping during buffering"... |
| 23:13:29 | JdGordon | the "now playing" bar is pretty pointless on the small screens though |
| 23:13:31 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: The coldifre don't skip with peakmeters |
| 23:13:41 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: I have peakmeters enabled on all my targets, and got no skipping so far |
| 23:13:46 | BigBambi | Llorean: I thought that was a buffering issue? |
| 23:13:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: I don't have a Coldfire target. :) |
| 23:13:54 | BigBambi | pixelma: You win |
| 23:13:58 | Llorean | LambdaCalculus37: Oh, my gigabeat and H120 don't skip at all, and I think my Nano only skips under certain conditions with 'em |
| 23:14:01 | linuxstb | JdGordon: There's still some more work to do it on - I'm hoping I can reduce the binsize a little more. |
| 23:14:08 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: Well, you should then if you want peakmeters |
| 23:14:10 | Llorean | pixelma: Yeah, but peakmeters would surely agitate it further. |
| 23:14:14 | amiconn | (on 1st/2nd Gen ipod only after I did the lcd optimisation, before they were really too slow) |
| 23:14:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: My iPod video skipped with peakmeters. |
| 23:14:39 | Llorean | LambdaCalculus37: The iPod Video is the single worst performing target for video, which is what peakmeters are relevant to I believe |
| 23:14:48 | stripwax | fwiw mine skips without peakmeters |
| 23:14:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Damn straight. :) |
| 23:15:04 | JdGordon | linuxstb: oh, what is the rough bin delta? |
| 23:15:27 | amiconn | Llorean: Peakmeters don't need much performance on Video after my lcd optimisations. They just cover a small fraction of the lcd |
| 23:15:58 | Llorean | amiconn: Could LCD updates be handled on the cop during normal use by chance? |
| 23:16:07 | BigBambi | I have no say, and no real feel for the limitations, and I normally am a staunch defender of no pointless visual crap for the sake of it, but in this case I feel an extra font would be beneficial |
| 23:16:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Example of a good use of this: International characters in id3/metadata tags. |
| 23:16:44 | Llorean | I think one extra user font wouldn't be bad. Plus a "Menu" font separate from the WPS font. |
| 23:16:52 | BigBambi | that would be nice |
| 23:16:59 | * | DerPapst nods |
| 23:17:00 | BigBambi | + a different remote font |
| 23:17:13 | linuxstb | On the modern targets, I think it's about 2.5KB, about 60% of which is in apps/ On the Archos recorder, it's 1436 bytes, of which 1008 bytes is apps/ |
| 23:17:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | I have some songs with Japanese characters in the metadata, and they don't show up unless I use the Sazanami fonts or Unifont. |
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| 23:17:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | And the Unifont Cabbie 2.0 doesn't work for squat. |
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| 23:17:55 | BigBambi | unifont looks horrible |
| 23:18:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Too big. |
| 23:18:05 | DerPapst | this is what i meant by 3 fonts anyways.. one for the menu, 2 for the wps... |
| 23:18:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nice on the Gigabeat, though. |
| 23:18:12 | Llorean | LambdaCalculus37: Extra fonts isn't going to be able to help much with that though. You can't really say "If you don't find the characters, load a different font" without some further additional logic. |
| 23:18:13 | BigBambi | +1 for remote... |
| 23:18:14 | amiconn | Fyi, the targets I tried peakmeters (without observing skipping, except _one single_ skip on H180 this afternoon): bitmapped archos of course, plus H180, H340, X5, H10 6GB, iPod Mini iPod 2nd Gen, iPod Video. |
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| 23:18:49 | amiconn | That's with either default wps, or my 'fullinfo' wps which is rather similar |
| 23:18:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: True. |
| 23:19:11 | Buschel_ | soap: could you test fs#8379v6? I guess for mp3-playback the runtime should at least be the same −− I am mostly interested in stability. |
| 23:20:03 | * | DerPapst fades away |
| 23:20:15 | preglow | Buschel_: are you sure the pll should consume noticable cpu, though? |
| 23:20:19 | preglow | i'm convinced it should |
| 23:20:46 | amiconn | ...and a font suitable for the display size. Going from rockfont-8 (archos), through the various nimbus variants up to nimbus-19 (on the Video) |
| 23:20:58 | Buschel_ | preglow: i am not convinced at all −− just hoping to find some mA's |
| 23:21:30 | preglow | i'm _not_ convinced it should... |
| 23:21:34 | * | preglow blames beer |
| 23:21:47 | BigBambi | beer beer beer |
| 23:21:51 | BigBambi | Sorry |
| 23:21:57 | pixelma | beer isn't around here ;) |
| 23:22:06 | BigBambi | Beer is here :) |
| 23:22:07 | * | preglow is guzzling his own produce |
| 23:22:13 | amiconn | hmm |
| 23:22:13 | BigBambi | really? |
| 23:22:26 | amiconn | Maybe the skipping comes from using album art? |
| 23:22:28 | * | BigBambi is guzzling leffe tripple |
| 23:22:34 | BigBambi | oops |
| 23:22:35 | stripwax | cou |
| 23:22:43 | stripwax | oops |
| 23:22:49 | preglow | leffe tripel is better than my own produce :/ |
| 23:22:54 | preglow | does leffe make a tripel? |
| 23:23:01 | stripwax | could be albumart+dircache flushing+db updating .. ? |
| 23:23:04 | BigBambi | Yeah, even if I can't spell |
| 23:23:36 | amiconn | Afaik the skipping happens while buffering, and surely album art needs to look up and load stuff while buffering? |
| 23:24:02 | Buschel_ | preglow: btw, i hoped the PLL could be switched off to save some current, not CPU time. |
| 23:24:11 | stripwax | GodEater - did you have albumart on your wps when it skipped? |
| 23:24:17 | amiconn | Just a guess.... but it might be the problem.... |
| 23:24:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Strangely enough, my iPod never skips when loading album art. :\ |
| 23:24:26 | * | stripwax did.. |
| 23:24:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | Make that "WITH" album art. |
| 23:24:47 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: Have you had skipping otherwise? (without peakmeters) |
| 23:24:51 | amiconn | I'm not sure how album art works - does it look for the various .bmp always, even if there's no such tag in the wps? |
| 23:24:54 | preglow | Buschel_: i probably meant runtime... |
| 23:25:07 | stripwax | amiconn - I'd hope not |
| 23:25:14 | pixelma | amiconn: I think it doesn't |
| 23:25:16 | BigBambi | amiconn: I don't believe so, but Nico_P ... |
| 23:25:18 | amiconn | I have no such .bmp files on my devices at all, hence it can't load any such stuff |
| 23:25:25 | Buschel_ | preglow: ah, ok |
| 23:25:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: I use Cabbie 2.0 for WPS; 100x100 AA, and I use Q5 Vorbis as my codec. |
| 23:25:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | The ONLY way it skips is for me to shake the iPod around. |
| 23:26:03 | BigBambi | haha |
| 23:26:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | Either I got lucky and got a well-behaved iPod, or Rockbox loves me. :P |
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| 23:26:39 | stripwax | LambdaCalculus37- with dircache and database? |
| 23:26:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | stripwax: Yep. |
| 23:26:54 | stripwax | v interesting |
| 23:27:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | stripwax: And very mysterious. :) |
| 23:27:55 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: Does the Rio Karma's documentation or firmware mention anywhere that is uses ecos? |
| 23:28:26 | pixelma | might be interesting to collect the config.cfg files of those who report skipping - maybe it is a combination of a few features? |
| 23:28:34 | amiconn | stripwax: I use dircache (only on 32MB targets and except iPod mini), but neither album art (no .bmp file on the device except a few backdrops for occasional testing), nor any dynamic database feature (playing stats, rating) |
| 23:29:05 | amiconn | pixelma: .cfg file *plus* directory listing.... |
| 23:29:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: DAPreview.net has an article about the Karma; eCos is mentioned: http://www.dapreview.net/p/content/content.php?content.193#OS |
| 23:29:41 | amiconn | Imho it can only be either database updating stuff, or albumart |
| 23:30:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | Older release with RHEPL license. |
| 23:30:05 | soap | Buschel_, I will test v6 tomorrow, in "real-world" usage. |
| 23:30:14 | * | stripwax will too |
| 23:30:18 | amiconn | ...since it happens at rebuffering time |
| 23:30:27 | Buschel_ | soap/stripwax: perfect :) |
| 23:30:36 | amiconn | ...and obviously doesn't depend on audio format |
| 23:30:38 | stripwax | I *only* get skipping on startup , first-time buffering |
| 23:30:50 | stripwax | and about one time in six starts |
| 23:32:02 | pixelma | haven't encountered skipping since the days after the MoB commit and I do use album art (have it in my WPS) but actually have only a very few albums who contain the .bmp file |
| 23:32:23 | amiconn | Could also be last.fm logging (never tried that on swcodec, only on archos for testing where it now works) |
| 23:32:32 | * | stripwax has that enabled too .. |
| 23:33:29 | pixelma | s/who/which (album is not a person) :) |
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| 23:33:55 | Bagder | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/01/04/2048218.shtml <= gave us lots of visitors |
| 23:34:20 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: My reading of the RHEPL is that Rio should have offered the source changes to "anyone to whom you made an Executable version available and to the Initial Developer" - i.e. users should have received an offer of the source, not just ecos. IMO that could be worth chasing up. |
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| 23:34:51 | stripwax | awesome |
| 23:35:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: There's a forum user named ukre that was part of the hardware team for the Karma. It would be worth talking to him, too. |
| 23:35:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | But I still need my own Karma. My coworker refuses to part with his, even in the name of hardware hacking. |
| 23:36:04 | stripwax | I have a slightly-broken Karma (which mostly refuses to boot ) - any use? |
| 23:36:25 | stripwax | (Not strictly speaking mine to give away) |
| 23:36:48 | stripwax | but could help out with software testing? |
| 23:37:20 | * | ender` yawns |
| 23:37:38 | scorche | once again... ;) |
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| 23:40:05 | lyon8_ | good night ;) |
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| 23:42:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | stripwax: Yes, definitely! |
| 23:43:13 | stripwax | potentially have access to two, in various states of not-working-ness .. |
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| 23:43:44 | stripwax | (both owners now have working ipods) |
| 23:44:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | stripwax: Can you perhaps scan the mainboards? |
| 23:45:34 | * | Buschel_ goes to bed.. gotta go working tomorrow :/ |
| 23:45:36 | Buschel_ | bye |
| 23:45:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or better yet... do you have adaptors that'll fit the hard drives? |
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| 23:46:35 | stripwax | LambdaCalculus37 - adaptors, no.. if you need a working harddrive these two particular models might not be what you're after .. |
| 23:46:39 | Nico_P | Bagder: any idea how come that story gave vistors? |
| 23:46:52 | Nico_P | or maybe I'm missing something |
| 23:47:00 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: I don't think you need an adaptor iiuc |
| 23:47:01 | Bagder | several comments mention rockbox |
| 23:47:03 | stripwax | Nico_P - second or third post down? |
| 23:47:18 | Bagder | >500 referers and counting |
| 23:47:22 | amiconn | You should be able to connect those drives to a standard 2.5" hdd connector |
| 23:47:27 | leftright | two of the Rio devs also hang out here, peter, and defector, they are busy updating the Trekstors firmware with beta testing |
| 23:47:27 | Nico_P | ah yes |
| 23:47:33 | leftright | http://www.riovolution.org/thread/794 |
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| 23:48:41 | amiconn | Domonoky: What happened to that turkish name on the frontpage?? |
| 23:49:10 | amiconn | Hmm, in the ViewVC log view it's okay |
| 23:49:13 | amiconn | Bagder? |
| 23:49:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: With the horizontal oriented 1.8" hard drive in the Karma? |
| 23:49:24 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: yes |
| 23:49:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Worth a shot. |
| 23:49:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll try it out. |
| 23:49:50 | Bagder | utf8 never worked on the front page svn output |
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| 23:51:09 | amiconn | The frontpage is reported as iso8859-1 in firefox. The ViewVC log view is utf-8 |
| 23:51:13 | leftright | LambdaCalculus37: some guy put a zif HDD in his karma at that riovolution site |
| 23:51:20 | Bagder | amiconn: exactly, that's one reason... |
| 23:51:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | leftright: Reading those now. |
| 23:51:37 | Domonoky | amiconn: so its not my fault ? :-) |
| 23:51:45 | Nico_P | the encoding is also borken in the commit email it seems |
| 23:51:55 | amiconn | So it looks like there are 2 things to fix: the codepage for the frontpage, and probably the script generating the info |
| 23:52:19 | pixelma | not the first time this is happening |
| 23:52:30 | Nico_P | I fixed encoding in the commit emails my svn sends by setting the locale in the post-commit hook |
| 23:52:33 | amiconn | Domonoky: No, your only 'fault' is that you used utf-8 which the frontpage obviously doesn't like |
| 23:53:19 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 23:53:20 | * | amiconn uses iso8859-1 instead, which appears correctly on the frontpage but not in ViewVC instead (if I use extended chars, which doesn't happen often) |
| 23:54:25 | * | preglow chants UTF-8! |
| 23:55:22 | amiconn | If only it would work properly in most places |
| 23:55:27 | amiconn | ...which it doesn't |
| 23:55:33 | preglow | like where? |
| 23:55:40 | preglow | "places" should be fixed to work properly with it |
| 23:56:00 | amiconn | First, and most important for me: Windows |
| 23:56:05 | preglow | windows :/ |
| 23:56:17 | Nico_P | bah |
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| 23:57:00 | amiconn | The nasty thing is that windows *does* support utf-8, but you can't choose it for a locale |
| 23:57:10 | preglow | amiconn: isn't that mainly an application issue, though? |
| 23:57:16 | amiconn | no |
| 23:58:28 | amiconn | Win32 applications can either do everything in unicode, but that means ucs-2 in windows, or they operate in 'ascii', which actually means whatever codepage the selected locale defines |
| 23:58:35 | preglow | yeah |
| 23:58:51 | amiconn | And there is no locale which selects utf-8 |
| 23:58:57 | preglow | but that still doesn't mean programs can't read/write utf8 and use utf-16 internally |
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