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| 00:03:40 | jhMikeS | amiconn: good, so it can handle that just fine. pp5002 is already under the wire anyway as it is and I think it's affected a little more negatively than pp502x but my guage was simply the frequency of audio interruption. |
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| 00:14:00 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I've removed all GRAY_CACHE_MAINT related stuff from mpegplayer locally now, and just added UNCACHED_ADDR() in the grey_init() call |
| 00:14:14 | amiconn | Seems to work properly on my mini |
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| 00:15:13 | amiconn | The only bug is now the remaining osd part outside the video area |
| 00:15:59 | jhMikeS | it should work properly without the cached framebuffers. |
| 00:16:23 | amiconn | Shall I commit this? |
| 00:16:38 | amiconn | The remaining osd part is unrelated to the caching... |
| 00:17:38 | jhMikeS | wvs_show should just need the #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR bits removed to fix the remaining osd part |
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| 00:18:18 | jhMikeS | did you remove GRAY_CACHE_MAINT for the show/hide function? |
| 00:18:38 | amiconn | I removed GRAY_CACHE_MAINT, and all related code and macros |
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| 00:21:48 | jhMikeS | that should probably stay without the _gray_info structure being uncached |
| 00:22:00 | amiconn | ? |
| 00:22:52 | jhMikeS | the show/hide flushing |
| 00:23:41 | * | amiconn doesn't understand... |
| 00:24:04 | DaCapn | can an ipod with rockbox only be charged when the device is mounted? Or can it also be charged while the ipod is not mounted? |
| 00:24:06 | jhMikeS | in stream_gray_show |
| 00:24:11 | amiconn | I thought that this flushing is unnecessary if the buffers are uncached |
| 00:24:21 | amiconn | And now they are.... |
| 00:24:49 | jhMikeS | but if _gray_info is cached, changes may not be picked up by cop without it |
| 00:25:11 | amiconn | Why should _grey_info be cached? |
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| 00:25:35 | amiconn | And furthermore, the cop doesn't need to care about _grey_info contents |
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| 00:26:32 | jhMikeS | it uses no data at all from the structure? |
| 00:27:06 | amiconn | Well, depends what functions are used from the cop |
| 00:27:33 | amiconn | If it's just grey_ub_gray_bitmap_part, it only reads the struct, never writes |
| 00:27:47 | amiconn | And why should _grey_info be cached, btw? |
| 00:27:58 | jhMikeS | grey_ub_grey_bitmap_part but changes to the flags are adjacent to other data |
| 00:29:00 | amiconn | grey_ub_gray_bitmap_part doesn't touch the flags at all |
| 00:29:48 | Nico_P | lostlogic: do you know about the playback skipping bugs people are experiencing on slowish targets? |
| 00:29:49 | jhMikeS | but flags is within a cache line of width and height |
| 00:30:04 | amiconn | Yeah, but width and height don't change after init |
| 00:30:37 | amiconn | Right now _grey_info is cached, but even that will go away once you can optionally pass an own (iram) buffer |
| 00:31:26 | jhMikeS | no, but since flags does, it will be read into a cop cache line when it accesses width and height |
| 00:32:43 | amiconn | Hmm, is that a problem? |
| 00:33:01 | amiconn | Since the cop never changes _grey_info data, it won't write back that cache line |
| 00:33:34 | amiconn | (as the cache line never becomes dirty) |
| 00:33:56 | jhMikeS | It shouldn't, true. If there's no difficulty, it's likely correct |
| 00:34:30 | amiconn | I can't find any problems |
| 00:34:51 | jhMikeS | all vo data is padded and aligned and that's the only other cacheable data it uses outside the allocator |
| 00:34:57 | amiconn | Running both fullscreen and widescreen "elephants dream", seeking back & forth, pausing etc |
| 00:35:29 | amiconn | And you were right about the ifdefs in wvs_show |
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| 00:35:43 | amiconn | I removed them, and now the osd disappears properly on widescreen videos |
| 00:38:37 | jhMikeS | the whole point of those was for the widescreen/small video situation :) |
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| 00:51:14 | jer^ | ok... my ipod wont turn on now :S |
| 00:51:35 | jer^ | i just turned it off using the play button hold down for a few seconds thing, rockbox installed etc..now it wont turn on |
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| 00:54:16 | DaCapn | jer^ try connecting it via USB since that should turn it on |
| 00:54:51 | jer^ | hmm not doing anything |
| 00:56:01 | pixelma | rather try to reset it (holding menu+select...) |
| 00:56:55 | jer^ | aha |
| 00:56:57 | jer^ | thanks |
| 00:57:03 | jer^ | is that how i have to turn it on everytime? |
| 00:57:13 | pixelma | no, usually not |
| 00:57:20 | jer^ | kk |
| 00:57:22 | jer^ | thx :) |
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| 01:00:39 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Shall I commit what I have, or post a patch first? |
| 01:00:39 | amiconn | Btw, mpegplayer could work on PP5002 if the overlay doesn't cover the whole screen |
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| 01:00:57 | amiconn | The isr needs 44% CPU at 80MHz for fullscreen |
| 01:01:33 | amiconn | That's mainly due to the lcd bridge waits; the function would be way faster without them :\ |
| 01:02:00 | * | amiconn used the "nop trick" to get a working PP5002 build :/ |
| 01:02:50 | DerPapst | howmany nops did ypu use? |
| 01:02:51 | jhMikeS | post a patch really quick I'll see if I catch anything |
| 01:03:02 | amiconn | DerPapst: Just one... |
| 01:03:20 | DerPapst | ah.. i thought it would be more. |
| 01:03:38 | amiconn | G1/g2 needs further work in the graylib anyway, because the linearisation curve needs to be flipped when backlight is on |
| 01:03:48 | amiconn | (because of backlight inversion) |
| 01:03:50 | * | DerPapst hast tried to build a current version for his 3G yet.. even without the nops |
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| 01:04:08 | DerPapst | *hasn't |
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| 01:05:41 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/mpegplayer.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/mpegplayer.diff |
| 01:06:04 | Langly | On a 1st gen ipod, sometimes I accidently boot it to orig software instead of rockbox, and after pwering off it still reboots to apple software, only way to get it back on rockbox is to plug it to firewire then unplug it again |
| 01:06:20 | * | amiconn wonders if upping CPUFREQ_MAX to 90MHz would help |
| 01:06:20 | Langly | is there any other way to get it to boot back to rockbox if its loaded its normal software on me |
| 01:06:34 | amiconn | Reset it |
| 01:06:53 | amiconn | (Menu+Play on a 1st Gen) |
| 01:06:58 | * | jhMikeS gets "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" |
| 01:07:14 | DerPapst | ip adress not updated :-P |
| 01:07:38 | Langly | didnt do anything |
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| 01:08:53 | Langly | Im talking 1st gen ipod, not mini or anything |
| 01:08:53 | Langly | old 5gig origina; |
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| 01:08:53 | DerPapst | we understood :-) |
| 01:08:53 | DerPapst | however menu + play is the hard reset |
| 01:08:55 | DerPapst | so it should work |
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| 01:09:02 | DerPapst | is hold fliped on? |
| 01:09:17 | Langly | there we go, did it that bloody time |
| 01:09:20 | Langly | thanks |
| 01:09:28 | DerPapst | heh |
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| 01:11:48 | Langly | just didnt quite hold them long enough |
| 01:11:48 | amiconn | eh? |
| 01:13:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Try again now |
| 01:13:28 | amiconn | For some reason my Amiga got a different internal ip; had to correct the port forwarding |
| 01:13:30 | jhMikeS | got it |
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| 01:15:28 | jhMikeS | looks good |
| 01:16:07 | Langly | Ah thats why its wonky |
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| 01:16:22 | Langly | every time rockbox sleeps, the apple software fires back up |
| 01:16:39 | DerPapst | Good night all :-D |
| 01:16:41 | Langly | and as the hold switch is on when I put it down when im done with it |
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| 01:17:45 | amiconn | Rockbox cannot sleep yet |
| 01:18:12 | amiconn | (on ipod 1st + 2nd Gen) |
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| 01:19:15 | amiconn | So if you want to use it right now, the most convenient way so far is (imho) to disable the poweroff timeout, so that once you are in rockbox, you stay there until you reboot manually. |
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| 01:20:25 | amiconn | Then, if you want to put away the ipod, hold 'Play' until rockbox says 'Shutting down' (which it doesn't, it actually reboots), and then quickly flip the hold switch, so that it reboots into apple fw, which will the sleep after a few minutes |
| 01:20:55 | amiconn | To go back into rockbox, disable hold, and reset (Menu+Play). Currently there is no really convenient way, sorry... |
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| 01:23:25 | petur | flyspray spits an error at me about the mailer being unable to smtp |
| 01:24:43 | * | amiconn is running doom 'timedemo' on 2nd Gen |
| 01:26:22 | jhMikeS | amiconn: btw. UNCACHED_ADDR only defined #ifdef CPU_PP |
| 01:27:25 | amiconn | 10.8fps. Not that bad given the PP5002 cache quirks |
| 01:27:53 | JdGordon|w | whats the proper fps? |
| 01:28:22 | amiconn | 35fps is doom's fps limit (unless you run timedemo) |
| 01:29:49 | kugel | why doesn't the wps tag manual get updated? |
| 01:31:12 | amiconn | Urgh, but sound should be kept disabled... |
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| 01:32:02 | PuppiesOnAcid | ok |
| 01:32:08 | PuppiesOnAcid | so i have a mac formatted 2G ipod |
| 01:32:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Oh, I thought it would collapse to identity for others... |
| 01:32:16 | PuppiesOnAcid | i just want to format it to work on windows and install rockbox |
| 01:32:20 | PuppiesOnAcid | i don't care about losing my songs |
| 01:32:23 | PuppiesOnAcid | is this possible through rockbox? |
| 01:32:38 | PuppiesOnAcid | or will i hvae to use itunes to format it? |
| 01:33:14 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Could be added but it was originally just in driver code |
| 01:33:47 | markun | jhMikeS: do you want to implement fluent seeking in mpegplayer with a multiply or by using the shift operator like it's done in my patch? |
| 01:34:44 | amiconn | Hmm, disk_buf.c uses the PROC_NEEDS_CACHEALIGN macro for applying UNCACHED_ADDR() |
| 01:34:50 | jhMikeS | markun: I don't know. You have to watch overflow on that one. |
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| 01:35:31 | jhMikeS | amiconn: indeed since they go together atm |
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| 01:36:39 | markun | Llorean, jhMikeS: is it ok if I choose more exact values for this table? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Choosing_a_resolution |
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| 01:37:06 | markun | (as long as they are a multiple of 2) |
| 01:38:46 | jhMikeS | more exact? :) |
| 01:39:25 | markun | jhMikeS: 220:124 for 16:9 on the h300 for example |
| 01:40:10 | jhMikeS | 4:3 video for x5 should be 160x120 |
| 01:40:11 | markun | you gain nothing by choosing 224x128 |
| 01:40:45 | markun | I'll just change them and remove the notice that it should be multiples of 16 |
| 01:40:50 | kugel | appearently, threre's a bug in the wps code |
| 01:41:09 | kugel | linuxstb: ping |
| 01:42:45 | kugel | linuxstb: I think I found a bug! You committed FS #8135 two month ago, today it's not working anymore |
| 01:44:00 | markun | jhMikeS: I assume that the physical dimentions of the screens with 5:4 resolutions are 5:4 as well? |
| 01:44:31 | jhMikeS | all screens I know of have square pixels |
| 01:44:39 | PaulJam | kugel: this change was replaced by the %m tag a few days later. |
| 01:44:41 | kugel | I doubt that in e200 case |
| 01:45:16 | jhMikeS | e200 has square pixels |
| 01:45:44 | kugel | it doesn't really look like 5:4 imo |
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| 01:47:06 | * | Domonoky_ just orderd a m:robe 100... :-) |
| 01:47:14 | Soap | measure it. |
| 01:47:45 | kugel | Well, my set square prooved me wrong :/ |
| 01:48:18 | jhMikeS | 56mm x 45mm (as best I can measure right now) = 1.2444444444.... |
| 01:48:45 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Committed. Btw, the cache flush was visible on coldfire too... |
| 01:49:08 | amiconn | Afaik all rockbox targets have square pixels, except the archoses |
| 01:49:23 | jhMikeS | cache flush on coldfire? There shouldn't have been any. |
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| 01:49:53 | kugel | thanks PaulJam |
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| 01:50:24 | amiconn | Hmm, maybe I had a mixed up build yesterday... although I dunno why that would have happened |
| 01:50:30 | markun | ok, I updated the wiki. maybe we should make new encodings of elefants dream for the resolutions that got changed. |
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| 01:53:04 | amiconn | I think we should have fullscreen, 4:3 and 16:9 versions for each lcd size. (16:9 doesn't make much sense on the small H10 though) |
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| 01:54:56 | markun | amiconn: so, 14 videos, not sure if it's useful to have them all in the performance table |
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| 01:56:42 | markun | who's ever going to use a 128x128 video on a 320x240 screen for example |
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| 02:02:50 | amiconn | Yeah, of course not all those videos are needed in the performance table for each target |
| 02:03:55 | amiconn | Just the 3 (or 2, if either 4:3 == fullscreen or 16:9 == fullscreen) |
| 02:05:05 | markun | is anyone working on a player with 16:9 == fullscreen? |
| 02:05:24 | markun | I mean working on a rockbox port to such a plauer |
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| 02:07:35 | amiconn | Nah, that was just for completeness |
| 02:07:47 | amiconn | (although the c200 is closer to 16:9 than to 4:3) |
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| 02:09:46 | markun | are you sure? 1.25 is closer to 1.78 than 1.33? |
| 02:10:02 | markun | Ah, c200, sorry |
| 02:10:26 | amiconn | 1.65 |
| 02:11:05 | csc` | hello #rockbox |
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| 02:12:26 | markun | amiconn: shall I add the greyscale targets to the table as well? |
| 02:12:42 | amiconn | Yes, I think that makes sense |
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| 02:12:52 | amiconn | Although there is currently no fps display... |
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| 02:13:28 | * | jhMikeS made the fps display show up |
| 02:13:49 | * | amiconn still thinks that mpegplayer should have a 'test' option, replacing 'skip frames', 'limit fps' and 'show fps' |
| 02:14:47 | amiconn | It should display stats when the video ends or is stopped, in order to minimise influence on playback, and make the info easily readable |
| 02:15:29 | * | amiconn has yet another slight optimisation for SH1 grey_phase_blit() |
| 02:16:02 | amiconn | Making better use of page mode by reordering accesses, at the cost of using one extra register |
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| 02:18:22 | crzyboyster | Any idea when Cabbie 2.0 will be commited since it's now ready? Or can someone actually try and compile it and give it a test run? |
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| 02:18:56 | crzyboyster | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443 |
| 02:19:26 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that fps bar has been since there the first time I ever compiled mpegplayer |
| 02:24:39 | crzyboyster | So no one knows? |
| 02:26:16 | markun | amiconn: could the M3 play videos on the remote? |
| 02:26:33 | amiconn | Not sure yet |
| 02:26:55 | amiconn | The remote lcd is serial. It depends on whether I can manage to pump data fast enough |
| 02:27:58 | amiconn | There's one way to ensure this - switching the lcd to mono mode while using the greyscale lib (cuts number of bits per frame in half), but then partial greyscale wouldn't work |
| 02:28:33 | amiconn | Hmm, or perhaps I could make it work, reducing the outside stuff to b&w dynamically... |
| 02:28:48 | amiconn | Not really difficult given the pixel format |
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| 02:33:52 | markun | amiconn: can you spot any mistakes? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Choosing_a_resolution |
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| 02:37:32 | amiconn | No. I would just reorder the lists. As player names vary a lot for a resolution, I would order them by resolution |
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| 02:40:56 | markun | smallest first |
| 02:40:57 | markun | ? |
| 02:41:07 | markun | (like the performance screen) |
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| 02:41:16 | amiconn | Nah, largest first. We want to show off ;) |
| 02:44:11 | markun | hm, which should come first, 132x80 or 128x128? :) |
| 02:44:13 | * | jhMikeS looks for 640x480 |
| 02:44:51 | amiconn | 128*128 > 132*80 |
| 02:44:58 | markun | jhMikeS: the D2 doesn't play video yet, does it? |
| 02:45:20 | markun | amiconn: but with a 19:6 movie you have a bigger image on the c200 :) |
| 02:45:24 | * | jhMikeS wants two interesting targets 1) D2 (dual core) 2) mrobe500 (to make a hw decoder) |
| 02:45:25 | markun | 16:9 even |
| 02:46:29 | markun | anyway, time for sleep |
| 02:46:31 | markun | good night! |
| 02:46:36 | kugel | jhMikeS: why do you need D2 for dual core fun? |
| 02:47:12 | jhMikeS | isn't D2 a dual core TCC? hopefully cache handling is better there than on PP. |
| 02:49:21 | jhMikeS | but I have a gigabeast to work on which itself has some nice video possibilities |
| 02:49:53 | Llorean | Someone said the Gigabeast's video out actually offers some higher resolutions than the screen itself |
| 02:54:59 | jhMikeS | I don't think the datasheets for that are online but I'm not aware of anyone attempting to actually get ahold of it beyond that |
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| 03:01:50 | markun | jhMikeS: I think I've found it: http://ingeninge.homelinux.net/ingmar/zenega/Datenbl%E4tter/FS453-4___FS455-6_SW_v31.pdf |
| 03:02:07 | JdGordon | the c200 doesnt have a wheel right? |
| 03:02:36 | Llorean | No wheel |
| 03:03:10 | JdGordon | just making sure before i make a fool of myself on the tracker :p |
| 03:03:59 | * | jhMikeS saves that in case it's a lucky fluke |
| 03:05:16 | JdGordon | is it just me, or is the database impossible to initialise with the sim? |
| 03:05:50 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: not the last time I tried it |
| 03:06:31 | kugel | JdGordon: it#s you |
| 03:06:42 | * | JdGordon tries again |
| 03:06:50 | kugel | JdGordon: However, maybe you made the same mistake I did once |
| 03:07:02 | kugel | you have the music in .rockbox, and not in archos |
| 03:07:24 | JdGordon | no, my music is in archos/music |
| 03:07:36 | JdGordon | building database... |
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| 03:08:40 | JdGordon | close the sim to restart it and.... |
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| 03:09:04 | JdGordon | ... db not ready |
| 03:09:38 | kugel | weird |
| 03:09:55 | kugel | what are you testing? |
| 03:10:12 | kugel | some further improvement of the vp-list code? |
| 03:10:21 | JdGordon | well, i want to fix some pictureflow bugs... but cant do anything without the db going |
| 03:10:29 | JdGordon | clean svn |
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| 03:10:53 | kugel | fs#8335 fixes some |
| 03:11:30 | JdGordon | yeah, I was going to commit that last night but did the button renaming instead |
| 03:13:46 | kugel | lol |
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| 03:16:34 | kugel | though, I wanted to include a fix for fs#8347 in a newer version of 8335 before committing |
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| 03:36:16 | zenobius | +1 for vcard reader on ipods videos |
| 03:36:33 | zenobius | (and ical too) |
| 03:36:34 | Llorean | +1 for "we look forward to patches" |
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| 03:40:44 | zenobius | windows now sniffs my ipod as "rockbox media player" and wont mount if i cancel driver search |
| 03:41:37 | zenobius | temporary thing i spose? |
| 03:46:26 | jhMikeS | hint - disk mode |
| 03:46:46 | zenobius | hint - it wokred before regardless of connecting mode |
| 03:47:11 | zenobius | i can be a smart alec too |
| 03:47:15 | jhMikeS | in rockbox it won't |
| 03:47:22 | zenobius | yes it diiiiiid |
| 03:47:44 | * | jhMikeS isn't aware the USB work was completed in rockbox yet |
| 03:48:47 | zenobius | oh ok so my previous 1.5 years of using rockbox on my ipod 5g was an illusion? all those years i was in rockbox, plugging it in to my puter (win/linux) and it mounting auto to diskmode was a halucination? |
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| 03:49:12 | zenobius | nvm, ill be back in another 2 years |
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| 04:13:17 | bb05 | does roxbox support .cue sheets as file playlists? |
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| 04:34:44 | BillWenrich|free | Hello - I am back again. |
| 04:35:03 | BillWenrich|free | Reporting a fully working and functional install on a first gen. iPod nano |
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| 04:36:42 | BillWenrich|flx | Because the documentation of Rockbox on the iPod -particularly key controls for plugins - is unfinished, I am requesting |
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| 04:36:52 | BillWenrich|flx | Wiki write permissions |
| 04:37:11 | BillWenrich|flx | in order to aid in the completion and accuracy of the iPod documentation. |
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| 04:55:08 | jhMikeS | How are these for resume options? Names for items? jhmikes.cleansoap.org/dump%20640732-083516.bmp">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/dump%20640732-083516.bmp |
| 04:58:28 | kugel | link doesn't work |
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| 05:00:02 | jhMikeS | hrm I can go to it |
| 05:01:08 | JdGordon | link works here also |
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| 05:03:19 | JdGordon | arg... ok im not doing something wrtong.... how the heck do i get the db to init in the sim? :( |
| 05:04:03 | jhMikeS | I always did it the same way I would on target. reboot = close sim and restart it |
| 05:04:22 | JdGordon | thats what im doing |
| 05:04:46 | JdGordon | it creates the database_tmp.tcd file, but the other files arnt being done |
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| 05:05:07 | JdGordon | unless its a bloody lack of dircache thing again? |
| 05:06:05 | jhMikeS | It's a sim for e200 or something? |
| 05:06:11 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 05:06:17 | JdGordon | e200 is my usual sim |
| 05:06:56 | jhMikeS | try another one and see. I did it on ones that had it. |
| 05:07:08 | JdGordon | h100 is the same.. so there goes that idea |
| 05:07:25 | JdGordon | grrr! |
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| 05:08:07 | fah-q | new to rockbox and i have a couple questions |
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| 05:10:14 | fah-q | anybody on that is willing to help out a noob? |
| 05:10:32 | safetydan | fah-q: easier to just ask your questions |
| 05:11:22 | fah-q | fair enough... got an iriver h10 20 gb... i just added a bunch of music and now its not showing up in my playlists or anywhere on my player, is there certain software i have to use? |
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| 05:19:28 | JdGordon | fah-q: how did you copy them onto the player? |
| 05:21:45 | fah-q | usm mode just made a music folder and dragged it into the drive, the folder dissapeard and i cant remember how to unhide the folders |
| 05:22:27 | JdGordon | get to the quickscreen and change it to show all files |
| 05:23:52 | fah-q | quickscreen? |
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| 05:24:45 | JdGordon | or go settings > general > file view > "show files" |
| 05:25:07 | fah-q | oh ok |
| 05:26:34 | fah-q | i can see the files now if i go to files |
| 05:26:39 | mike_ | hey, I have an 4th gen iPod which I'm going to convert to use CF (hdd = dead) and I was wondering if I could some how hack together some FM receiver into it and be able to use Rockbox since it does have FM support for players that already have a receiver |
| 05:27:20 | mike_ | and I was wondering if anyone would think this is possible and give me some sort of direction / help on this |
| 05:27:39 | fah-q | so how do i get the database working? |
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| 05:40:58 | safetydan | fah-q: the manual should explain how |
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| 05:43:11 | kugel | weird, why didn't the link work for me? |
| 05:44:00 | kugel | anyway, I'm gone, cu |
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| 05:44:53 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: how do I get names opt items to always be in top-down order? they're coming out reversed. |
| 05:45:07 | JdGordon | ? |
| 05:45:27 | jhMikeS | They're in the reverse order of the enum values in that image |
| 05:45:51 | JdGordon | once more? |
| 05:46:52 | jhMikeS | not sure what that means. it's just using set_option. |
| 05:47:26 | JdGordon | show me a patch pr something.. i have nfi what your talking about! |
| 05:47:40 | JdGordon | other than your using set_option wrong :p |
| 05:52:52 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: here's the important pieces: http://rafb.net/p/H7D0mP59.html |
| 05:54:24 | fah-q | thanks for the help dan |
| 05:55:06 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: they are shown in reverse order? |
| 05:55:57 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: yeah, the image is still up at the same link |
| 05:55:58 | JdGordon | no idea why that would happen im afraid :( |
| 05:58:04 | JdGordon | use the new api instead? |
| 05:58:55 | JdGordon | do any other plugins still use set_option? |
| 05:59:57 | jhMikeS | I don't know. What plugins use the new apis? |
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| 06:00:00 | JdGordon | shouldnt make a different but add =0 to the first item? |
| 06:00:08 | jhMikeS | tried that |
| 06:01:10 | JdGordon | run it thorugh gdb and make sure item[] is actually in the correct order? |
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| 06:36:57 | loklaan | hey everyone |
| 06:44:16 | loklaan | can someone help me, i need to change a permission for a file |
| 06:44:24 | loklaan | using vmware |
| 06:45:10 | scorche | http://www.google.com/search?q=change+permissions+linux |
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| 06:54:27 | loklaan | hmm still dont know how to change the permissions |
| 06:54:53 | loklaan | have to do something like "chmod o+w FILENAME.TXT" |
| 06:54:56 | loklaan | right? |
| 06:55:11 | loklaan | i do something like that, nothing happens, not even errors |
| 06:58:34 | safetydan | generally if something works under a Unix type system, it won't say anything |
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| 07:04:14 | ze | yeah, *NIX very rarely congratulates you on your success |
| 07:04:41 | ze | takes a "no news is good news" approach |
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| 07:53:37 | loklaan | haha cool |
| 07:53:42 | loklaan | sorry was having dinner :P |
| 07:53:55 | loklaan | well sadly that concept wasnt working |
| 07:54:22 | loklaan | so i just deleted all the files that had set permissions for someone else and used svn to update and download them while in user |
| 07:54:27 | loklaan | fixed my problem |
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| 08:24:15 | [_bb] | i cant geven ty0e |
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| 08:52:53 | GodEater | is anyone going to look into commiting cabbie2.0 now it's all done ? |
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| 09:02:52 | JdGordon | GodEater: well whats the plan for it? |
| 09:03:00 | JdGordon | is it just giong to go in as an option? |
| 09:03:10 | JdGordon | or hard coded to be the default? |
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| 09:03:50 | GodEater | well I think initially it can be commited as an alternative - just like iCatcher |
| 09:04:02 | GodEater | I'm not sure who is going to make the final call on "it's the new default wps" |
| 09:04:33 | GodEater | do we need to vote on it ? (And by 'we' - I mean the regulars here) |
| 09:05:14 | JdGordon | im fine with it as an option... but not so happy about it being the default |
| 09:05:14 | krazykit | since when is Orpheus a democracy ;) |
| 09:05:33 | GodEater | JdGordon: you prefer the current default then ? |
| 09:05:42 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:06:15 | GodEater | so why is this not a good default then ? |
| 09:07:26 | JdGordon | im not saying its not... a few more options would be good |
| 09:08:23 | GodEater | I think we'll be waiting a LONG time before we get other good candidates |
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| 09:08:34 | GodEater | it's taken over 6 months just to get this one |
| 09:08:55 | GodEater | and in any case, if a better one comes along later, we can just change it can't we ? |
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| 09:09:41 | JdGordon | but we wouldnt though... |
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| 09:11:11 | LinusN | i think cabbie2.0 is very good looking, and also has a rockboxish touch |
| 09:11:22 | LinusN | i use it and i like it |
| 09:11:26 | GodEater | me too |
| 09:11:30 | * | markun was just about to ask LinusN for his opinion :) |
| 09:11:31 | LinusN | i have no problems having it as the default |
| 09:11:32 | GodEater | gets my vote for default FWIW |
| 09:11:40 | markun | mine too |
| 09:11:47 | LinusN | there is one small quirk with it |
| 09:11:54 | markun | even if I'm not sure if I'm going to use it |
| 09:11:56 | LinusN | the hardcoded english strings |
| 09:12:03 | GodEater | ah yes |
| 09:12:09 | LinusN | but i don't really care that much |
| 09:12:26 | GodEater | it's a good default as you say |
| 09:12:46 | GodEater | non-native speakers will prefer it I think to the current default, even given that quirk |
| 09:12:56 | LinusN | and using cabbe as the default calls for a black splash screen |
| 09:12:59 | GodEater | and then once they're seasoned users, they can change it |
| 09:13:10 | GodEater | yes I did wonder about that |
| 09:13:44 | GodEater | it obviously wasn't something the WPS creators could do much about during the competition |
| 09:15:40 | LinusN | i think they did a wonderful job with cabbie2.0 and i think it deserves being the default, and rockbox desperately needs a good default |
| 09:15:59 | LinusN | it's not like we can't stop improving it |
| 09:16:03 | GodEater | has anyone checked the flyspray entry's attached zip to make sure it's up to scratch ? |
| 09:16:09 | LinusN | i haven't |
| 09:16:45 | * | GodEater goes to download it |
| 09:17:24 | GodEater | so which dictator is going to make the final call then ? ;) |
| 09:18:06 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:18:13 | GodEater | wow - it's a very thorough FS entry! |
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| 09:18:45 | LinusN | i don't think many of the core devs have much against having cabbie as the default |
| 09:19:00 | LinusN | it's after all only the default |
| 09:19:25 | GodEater | yes, but someone's got to take the plunge and actually type "svn add" ;) |
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| 09:19:51 | LinusN | i could do that if i only had the time |
| 09:21:07 | GodEater | the zip file still needs tidying up - it's still got thumbs.db files in it =/ |
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| 09:21:51 | * | GodEater takes care of it |
| 09:22:08 | JdGordon | hey Zagor, can you fix the irc web client to all -community please? |
| 09:22:21 | Zagor | I'll take a look |
| 09:22:40 | pondlife | GodEater: Well spotted on the thumbs.db :) |
| 09:22:42 | JdGordon | GodEater: dcc it my way and ill commit.. |
| 09:22:57 | * | amiconn does have something against any graphical intensive wps becoming the default, unless load times are brought down significantly |
| 09:23:17 | LinusN | amiconn: you are free to use another wps |
| 09:23:18 | GodEater | amiconn: but do you actually *use* the default |
| 09:23:44 | Zagor | JdGordon: done |
| 09:23:45 | happytron | what is a good ARM disassembler? |
| 09:23:49 | JdGordon | Zagor: cheers :) |
| 09:23:53 | pondlife | Will the existing default still be available? |
| 09:24:00 | Llorean | GodEater: I use the default with peakmeters removed and a different backdrop |
| 09:24:03 | pondlife | I mean, if someone clears settings? |
| 09:24:07 | amiconn | Yes, on some targets. Because it's one of the wps'es *not* using gfx, hence loads fast |
| 09:24:12 | LinusN | happytron: Ida Pro. just sell your house and buy a license :-) |
| 09:24:14 | Llorean | Clearing settings should reset you to the "default" .wps file |
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| 09:24:18 | JdGordon | pondlife: yes, i have to make sure it will still load the text one if the .wps isnt there |
| 09:24:20 | GodEater | oh god, it's got .DS_Store crap in it too |
| 09:24:27 | Llorean | But the compiled in one should load if the file is missing. |
| 09:24:38 | amiconn | Now where is that multivalue bmp strip code? Should help a good deal... |
| 09:25:30 | LinusN | the only thing that we would change is having a default file name in the WPS setting, right? |
| 09:25:38 | JdGordon | amiconn: gui/icon.c |
| 09:25:49 | happytron | LinusN, there isn't a good free one? |
| 09:26:01 | LinusN | happytron: objdump |
| 09:26:11 | pondlife | amiconn: How well is mpegplayer doing on SH1 targets now? |
| 09:26:15 | LinusN | and i think we have one in rockbox svn, don't we? |
| 09:26:29 | * | pondlife should never have sold his Recorder V1. :/ |
| 09:26:50 | JdGordon | GodEater: bah, if you want it commited, someone needs to fix apps/settings_list.c and set the defaults for the theme.... |
| 09:26:56 | JdGordon | font/wps/colours/etc |
| 09:27:30 | JdGordon | hmm.... |
| 09:27:44 | JdGordon | that actually means it will look wierd if parts of the theme is missing |
| 09:28:03 | LinusN | JdGordon: all wps'es look weird if things are missing |
| 09:28:16 | LinusN | in fact, rockbox works weird if things are missing |
| 09:28:25 | LinusN | missing codecs or plugins |
| 09:28:51 | JdGordon | true... ok, fix settings_list and it can go in |
| 09:29:00 | LinusN | rockbox needs planty of files to work, why should the wps'es be any different? |
| 09:29:06 | LinusN | plenty, even |
| 09:29:34 | GodEater | if I fix settings_list.c, should I also change the splash screen too ? |
| 09:29:36 | LinusN | i still think we need to address the loading time issue one day |
| 09:29:49 | LinusN | i think the color targets should have a black splash |
| 09:30:08 | markun | Should this be move to "general"? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14872.msg111031 |
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| 09:31:43 | amiconn | pondlife: Hahaha.... |
| 09:32:12 | pondlife | No, I was serious (on both points). |
| 09:32:58 | pondlife | Back in the day, RVF was needed and it was always said there was no chance of realtime MPEG. |
| 09:33:10 | pondlife | But your recent commits make me wonder if it's within grasp. |
| 09:33:12 | amiconn | rvf is still needed |
| 09:35:11 | JdGordon | can alex wallis "accidently" be unsubscribed from the dev ml? |
| 09:35:33 | LinusN | JdGordon: :-) |
| 09:35:42 | * | pondlife sniggers at the suggestion |
| 09:36:18 | LinusN | i think he has some valid points, although he fails to see the whole picture |
| 09:36:20 | * | Llorean wouldn't mind if a suggestion were added to the etiquette saying "If you're subscribed to discuss, and not simply to read, please don't use digest as we all like our threaded views, kthx" |
| 09:36:39 | LinusN | Llorean: i agree |
| 09:36:56 | Llorean | But I think our etiquette for the list is simple a link to some RFC at the moment. |
| 09:37:03 | JdGordon | Llorean: you missed the lol at the end... |
| 09:37:09 | pondlife | OMG! |
| 09:37:13 | LinusN | WTF! |
| 09:37:34 | GodEater | BBQ! |
| 09:38:05 | pondlife | GodEater: Because I'm too lazy to read the logs, did you get any progress on the starved-buffering-at-startup issue? |
| 09:38:37 | Llorean | Ah, no, we have a real list etiquette page. |
| 09:38:40 | Llorean | It's just never read. |
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| 09:39:16 | GodEater | pondlife: the last I saw jhMikes and Nico_P were still discussing it |
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| 09:39:30 | pondlife | OK, will read logs... |
| 09:39:39 | GodEater | I still have my "go straight to debug screen, do not pass Go, do not collect $200" build on my ipod though |
| 09:40:00 | webguest68 | OMGWTFBBQLOL!!!1!!1one |
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| 09:40:15 | GodEater | in fact, I was going to mention, I saw *one* instance this morning where I got the stutter without a completely empty pcmbuf |
| 09:40:20 | GodEater | but it's the only time I've seen it |
| 09:40:23 | pondlife | +1 for being a wbguest there |
| 09:40:27 | markun | LinusN: yesterday I found the datasheet of the FS456 online (TV out on the Gigabeat S), but I'm not sure if we are alowed to host it in our wiki, what do you think? |
| 09:40:48 | pondlife | markun: Link to it? |
| 09:40:49 | GodEater | he forgot to do this : OMGWTFBBQLOL!!!1!!1one11!!!eleven!1 |
| 09:40:54 | JdGordon | doh! |
| 09:41:03 | JdGordon | i mean... *looks around* |
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| 09:41:19 | markun | pondlife: man, you are REALLY lazy! ;) |
| 09:41:28 | pondlife | Indeed I am. |
| 09:41:49 | pondlife | Maybe I'll get off my butt and commit keyclick today. Or maybe I won't. |
| 09:42:01 | GodEater | please - no! |
| 09:42:03 | markun | http://ingeninge.homelinux.net/ingmar/zenega/Datenbl%E4tter/FS453-4___FS455-6_SW_v31.pdf |
| 09:42:06 | * | GodEater values his eardrums |
| 09:42:16 | LinusN | markun: i think you can link to it, but make sure you save a local copy for yourself |
| 09:42:23 | * | pondlife doesn't value GodEater's eardrums |
| 09:42:32 | pondlife | Get my own back for the arm. |
| 09:42:42 | GodEater | hehehe |
| 09:42:48 | GodEater | it's a fair cop I suppose |
| 09:42:55 | markun | LinusN: yes, I remember how Samsung took the S3C2440 datasheet offline just days after I made a local copy :) |
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| 09:43:08 | JdGordon | pondlife: forgot about keyclick... if i remember ill test it on my new sansa and let you know |
| 09:43:16 | JdGordon | .. or just commit it defaulting to disabled |
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| 09:44:51 | pondlife | It will be disabled by default. I believe it makes all PP target scream. |
| 09:45:23 | pondlife | But I have no such target, and no owner of such a target has updated pcmbuf_beep, AFAIK. |
| 09:45:47 | pondlife | Maybe if I commit, and PP users try it, there will be a better chance of a pcmbuf fix. |
| 09:46:52 | markun | LinusN: in the same folder is also a datasheet describing the hardware side of the FS456, I'll save that as well |
| 09:47:06 | LinusN | markun: do that |
| 09:47:08 | pondlife | Llorean: Regarding the ML, does it say that the dev list should be for developers discussing development, not users pushing patches? |
| 09:47:38 | Llorean | pondlife: This is the full description: "This is the developers list. We talk source code, bugs, internal design, commit reviews, porting issues and how to write efficient code." |
| 09:48:06 | pondlife | Sounds good. |
| 09:48:17 | Llorean | It doesn't say not to push patches. |
| 09:48:17 | LinusN | maybe i'm in an unusually good mood today, but i wasn't very offended by alex's posts |
| 09:48:26 | Llorean | I wasn't offended by his post either. |
| 09:48:53 | pondlife | I wasn't oiffended either too. |
| 09:48:55 | Llorean | But I felt he didn't spend very much time looking into things before commenting on him. |
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| 09:49:39 | LinusN | that is true |
| 09:50:09 | Llorean | The only irritating bit for me was the fact that he didn't keep the thread. |
| 09:51:12 | Llorean | And of course "the time has come to drop the archos." It's still our largest capacity HD player, as well as offering the easiest to acquire replaceable batteries, and recording functions. For some people, I imagine it's still a staple of use. |
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| 09:57:09 | LinusN | Llorean: heh, i have been a "drop the Archos Player" proponent for quite some time |
| 09:57:29 | Llorean | "The Archos Player" is different from "The archoses in general" though |
| 09:58:06 | pondlife | Work is pushing for me to use the .NET framework. Bagder's blog entry on Java sums up my feelings nicely. (With a healthy dose of platform-politics on top.) |
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| 09:59:24 | Llorean | I wouldn't mind dropping the Archoses in general, if there were a [i]really[/i] good reason for it. They are pretty old. But I don't think "So the voice file can get huge and voice all the plugins" is quite significant enough. :) |
| 09:59:51 | pondlife | Voicing plugins shouldn't require a bigger voice file anyway. |
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| 10:00:02 | Llorean | I think plugins should be able to have their own talk files anyway. |
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| 10:00:09 | Llorean | Or, talk file per plugin |
| 10:00:11 | Llorean | Something like that |
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| 10:00:27 | pondlife | Exactly. mpegplayer.english.voice (and .lang) |
| 10:00:35 | Llorean | Basically, yes. |
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| 10:02:58 | markun | howmany button repeats are generated in 1 second? |
| 10:03:16 | Toki | hi, my rockbox on h340 suddenly become resetting all my settings after player's restart... anyone knows why it can happen? |
| 10:03:48 | GodEater | corrupt filesystem where the config.cfg file is stored ? |
| 10:05:04 | Toki | thanks, I'll try check disc |
| 10:05:29 | GodEater | LinusN: wrt to changing the colour of the splash - should I leave the default LCD_DEFAULT_BG alone, and explicitly set the colour in show_logo(), or would you change the #def ? |
| 10:05:37 | markun | linuxstb: would you be willing to generate 'a few' more encodings of elephants dream? |
| 10:06:00 | linuxstb | markun: Sure, once my hangover clears and I can think again... |
| 10:06:08 | linuxstb | What do we need? |
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| 10:06:11 | markun | :) |
| 10:06:13 | GodEater | out celebrating something ? :) |
| 10:06:18 | LinusN | GodEater: hmmm, i think only the splash |
| 10:06:24 | GodEater | LinusN: ok |
| 10:07:25 | markun | linuxstb: I changed some values and added the ipod mini and sansa c200: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Choosing_a_resolution |
| 10:08:09 | markun | it would be nice to have 3 versions for each target (as amiconn suggested) : fullscreen, 4:3 and 16:9 |
| 10:08:24 | markun | and only test those 3 in the performance table |
| 10:08:34 | linuxstb | Don't most targets have a 4:3 screen anyway? |
| 10:08:42 | markun | no, most have 5:4 |
| 10:09:31 | markun | at least in pixels, I assumed they all have square pixels |
| 10:10:30 | linuxstb | Is it really worth encoding both 176x132 and 176x128 for the Nano (for example) ? |
| 10:11:27 | markun | maybe fullscreen and 16:9 is enough for those 5:$ targets |
| 10:11:30 | markun | 5:4 |
| 10:11:46 | Zagor | fyi: new cgiirc version installed, and some settings tweaked: 1) users can now /join #rockbox-community (but nothing else) 2) realname now show the user's hostname in plain text |
| 10:13:02 | petur | Zagor: now all we need is a silly default nick |
| 10:13:18 | Zagor | I'm open for suggestions :) |
| 10:13:55 | Llorean | For 5:4 targets, why not just always do a 4:3 encode? |
| 10:14:08 | Llorean | I doubt most people will spot the 4 non-used pixels on the nano for example |
| 10:16:34 | linuxstb | I would be curious to test how ffmpeg compares to the encoder I'm using (mpegenc from mjpegtools) - IIRC, in the early days of mpegplayer, I got faster decoding speeds with mpegenc files compared to ffmpeg. |
| 10:16:49 | markun | yes, I remember that as well |
| 10:17:09 | GodEater | throw mencoder into the mix too ;) |
| 10:17:12 | markun | but I've always used ffmpeg so far |
| 10:17:17 | Llorean | mencoder is ffmpeg |
| 10:17:23 | Llorean | Or at least, they're both libavcodec for mpeg2 video |
| 10:17:27 | GodEater | ah |
| 10:17:35 | Llorean | afaik, at least |
| 10:17:38 | GodEater | they definitely produce different output though |
| 10:17:41 | linuxstb | It could be worth testing mencoder though - it may well produce different outout.... |
| 10:17:53 | GodEater | just this morning I couldn't get a file produced with mencoder to playback on windows |
| 10:17:59 | GodEater | while the same thing with ffmpeg would |
| 10:18:07 | Llorean | Strange. |
| 10:20:22 | GodEater | actually - let me clarify that |
| 10:20:32 | GodEater | I was using mencoder to rotate a video I'd shot with my camera |
| 10:20:42 | GodEater | which (AFAIK) is impossible to do with ffmpeg alone |
| 10:20:53 | GodEater | the resulting output definitely wouldn't playback under windows |
| 10:21:35 | GodEater | I then used ffmpeg on that output video (though not doing clever anything to it) |
| 10:21:43 | GodEater | and the result played back fine |
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| 10:28:30 | Toki | I'm sorry, my problem persists after disc check |
| 10:28:40 | Toki | the player resets settings to defaults |
| 10:29:16 | Toki | maybe I should rename the file with my config to config.cfg and thus make it default? |
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| 10:29:21 | Llorean | linuxstb: Don't forget that with new encodes, we should be setting a group of pictures value to aid seeking |
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| 10:30:04 | linuxstb | I think I'm using 12 or 15 frames per GOP. |
| 10:30:34 | Llorean | Okay |
| 10:32:51 | markun | I've made some changes to make seeking acceleration fluent. Should I adapt it to use the same settings we have now or is it ok to have for example "off,slow,normal,fast"? |
| 10:34:50 | linuxstb | I can see the appeal of "off, slow etc", but personally I would prefer them to say exactly what they're doing. |
| 10:35:10 | linuxstb | But I don't really mind. |
| 10:35:34 | markun | it's not very difficult to do, but I need to change my implementation. |
| 10:35:46 | markun | Does anyone know howmany button repeats are genrated every second? |
| 10:36:00 | markun | to calculate the right log values |
| 10:36:48 | markun | I'll just "use the source" :) |
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| 10:45:26 | GodEater | is calling a "settings_load_config()" with the relevant theme file the best way to set this new default theme up ? |
| 10:47:44 | * | GodEater answers his own question with a "no, probably not" |
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| 10:53:30 | GodEater | hmm - the changes required in settings_list.c to make cabbie 2.0 the new default look to be quite large |
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| 10:55:35 | amiconn | markun: Button repeat has its own acceleration |
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| 10:58:28 | linuxstb | GodEater: Is there a patch somewhere now? |
| 10:59:46 | linuxstb | GodEater: Do you know if anyone has thought about if/how we're going to add the required font to the build .zip? |
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| 11:03:38 | amiconn | pondlife: While the greyscale lib got a lot faster on archos, I don't think the SH will be able to decode mpeg video anywhere realtime, even though it can offload audio decoding to the mas |
| 11:04:27 | GodEater | linuxstb: I'm trying to write said patch now |
| 11:04:37 | GodEater | and no - I've no idea how we're going to add the required font to the build.zip |
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| 11:04:51 | pondlife | Which font does it use? |
| 11:04:59 | amiconn | The old graylib caused 48% cpu load in the isr (44% on Ondio) and allowed an update speed of 4.3fps (4.6fps) with ~30 shades. The new lib now causes 57% cpu load in the isr (Ondio: 52%), and updates at 24.5fps (29.2fps) |
| 11:06:03 | linuxstb | pondlife: Various... See here - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443 |
| 11:07:08 | pondlife | So it's he Sazanami.. font we're lacking? |
| 11:07:25 | pondlife | And mix12? |
| 11:07:51 | * | pondlife changes the font to Nimbus 12 after applying Cabbie 2.0 anyway |
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| 11:10:02 | GodEater | I think the suggestion LinusN made to me earlier about not using LCD_DEFAULT_BG needs rethinking |
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| 11:10:28 | LinusN | GodEater: still a flash? |
| 11:10:59 | GodEater | no - it's just that if we're using this as the default theme, then it makes sense to use the values in the .cfg file |
| 11:11:14 | GodEater | otherwise we've got an default bg colour, which we never use as the default |
| 11:11:42 | Buschel | hi all! afaik the cop on dual core machines is not used at all during normal audio playback? and, the cop uses same clock than cpu, right? |
| 11:11:47 | GodEater | since settings_list.c sets the bg and fg colours to LCD_DEFAULT_BG/FG currently - I wouldn't want to change those lines without a good reason |
| 11:11:56 | GodEater | I'd prefer to change the values of the #defs |
| 11:12:04 | GodEater | iyswim |
| 11:12:12 | LinusN | i have no problem of using white on black as the default |
| 11:12:41 | GodEater | and then I can do away with the line I just added to misc.c in show_logo() |
| 11:15:36 | GodEater | settings_list.c is going to be a mess of #ifdef's now |
| 11:15:43 | GodEater | I can't see another way of doing it though |
| 11:15:48 | GodEater | anyone got any bright ideas ? |
| 11:19:53 | LinusN | why so? |
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| 11:23:00 | GodEater | to put the default setting to the correct value based on LCD size ? |
| 11:23:15 | GodEater | #ifdef HAVE_LCD_COLOR won't cut it now for example ?? |
| 11:24:17 | GodEater | unless I'm being particularly obtuse... |
| 11:25:10 | GodEater | actually - that was a bad example - it's the LCD_BITMAP ones which will need to be target specific |
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| 11:27:51 | GodEater | is the order the settings get setup in that file important ? It strikes me we could consolidate a lot of the #ifdef's that are already there |
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| 11:35:24 | LinusN | no, i don't believe the order is important |
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| 12:20:27 | preglow | wow, that pp power patch looks promising |
| 12:25:13 | GodEater | http://pastebin.ca/850707 |
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| 12:25:27 | GodEater | That's a snippet of what settings_list.c will have to look like now |
| 12:25:32 | GodEater | any instant comments ? |
| 12:25:35 | CHAMI | Hello |
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| 12:26:02 | CHAMI | Ȥ½Ã Çѱ¹ºÐ °è½Å°¡¿ä? |
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| 12:27:06 | GodEater | although I've not actually got round to changing most of the settings yet |
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| 12:29:33 | linuxstb | GodEater: Did you look at my patch for incorporating iCatcher as the default theme? |
| 12:29:49 | GodEater | no - I didn't know there was one |
| 12:30:09 | linuxstb | It's been around for months... |
| 12:30:37 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6568 |
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| 12:30:58 | linuxstb | Wow, it was 12 months ago.... |
| 12:31:07 | GodEater | ah - that's a neater way of doing it yes |
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| 12:32:46 | GodEater | is being a bit more specific about the target LCD sizes a bad thing do you think ? |
| 12:33:07 | GodEater | I want to avoid someone having to come back and change this when we have still more targets |
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| 12:48:29 | linuxstb | No, I think you have to be specific - e.g. the backdrops won't work on any other LCDs. |
| 12:49:10 | GodEater | ok - I'll still with my original #ifs then |
| 12:53:57 | GodEater | iCatcher looks like it's built quite cleverly |
| 12:54:12 | GodEater | i.e. the WPS file is always called the same thing, regardless of the target |
| 12:55:38 | amiconn | Of course |
| 12:56:08 | amiconn | This is handled by buildzip |
| 12:56:12 | amiconn | (iirc) |
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| 12:59:54 | GodEater | I don't think my perlfu is up to this then |
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| 13:02:05 | GodEater | looks like it's actually wpsbuild.pl |
| 13:03:45 | linuxstb | What do you need to change in wpsbuild.pl? |
| 13:05:18 | GodEater | I've no idea |
| 13:05:27 | GodEater | I don't know if I need to touch it at all |
| 13:06:05 | GodEater | or if I need to rename the files in the zip file for cabbie 2.0 so that wpsbuild finds them all ok |
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| 13:08:51 | * | GodEater decides this looks far more complicated that he originally imagined, and that the pub is calling him with it's siren "It's Friiiiiiiday, coooooome and driiiiink" call quite loudly.... |
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| 13:11:59 | Nico_P | wpsbuild.pl needs support for gradient settings IIUC |
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| 13:14:07 | PaulJam | when cabbie becomed default, could someone make the solitaire plugin not use the backdrop and use a solid colour (maybe the classic green) instead? It doesn't really look good with dark/black backdrops. |
| 13:16:08 | markun | PaulJam: I agree with that |
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| 13:17:07 | pondlife | GodEater: Darn it, you mentioned pub and drink, but not beer. |
| 13:17:11 | petur | I always wondered why the green background had to go |
| 13:17:46 | * | petur just filled the fridge with some nice bottles :) |
| 13:18:05 | pondlife | Do many plugins use the default backdrop, or do most set their own solid colour/backdrop? |
| 13:18:31 | petur | most have their own iirc |
| 13:18:51 | * | pondlife is just being hypothetical, no real need for answers... ;) |
| 13:19:15 | * | petur shuts up |
| 13:19:25 | pondlife | Shut up 'n drink yr beer. |
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| 13:20:17 | * | petur curses TheRegister for not posting BOFH this noon |
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| 13:44:54 | linuxstb | Shouldn't we just make plugin.c clear the backdrop before loading any plugin? |
| 13:47:28 | amiconn | That was discussed back when the change in solitaire happened |
| 13:47:59 | amiconn | It should be left to th eplugin whether it sets its own backdrop and colours |
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| 13:49:14 | amiconn | Simple, text based plugins (e.g. disktidy, vbrfix, ...) will look more integrated when the user settings are kept |
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| 13:53:16 | broom | GodEater: if the settings require such a #ifdef mess why not put them to the target tree (i.e. xxx-config.h)? |
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| 14:09:32 | DerPapst | good day :-) |
| 14:10:23 | petur | goodmorning ;) |
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| 14:12:57 | DerPapst | heh |
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| 14:31:23 | AlexMax | I'm having trouble with my 30G 5th gen ipod and rockbox. After not using my rockboxed ipod for a while, i decided to install itunes, install the latest firmware, and then reinstall rockbox using the installer. Rockbox now works (though it's still fussy about turning on sometimes), but I'm having a problem getting Windows XP to recognize it. |
| 14:32:21 | AlexMax | With the origional itunes, it behaved like a disk as it should. However, when i try plugging in my rockboxed ipod, i get a message about needing to find a driver for the rockbox. None exists that I can find, and thus I can't seem to access the ipod any longer. |
| 14:32:50 | Domonoky | AlexMax: boot into the OF for usb... |
| 14:33:00 | AlexMax | When plugging it in to my computer, it doesn't automatically shift into 'disk mode' like it used to, and I can't access it from Windows XP. |
| 14:33:18 | Domonoky | usb on ipods isnt ready in rockbox.. so just dual boot into the of.. |
| 14:33:31 | LinusN | AlexMax: you need to run the Apple firmware for USB mode |
| 14:34:17 | AlexMax | Wait a second...something weird just happened. I turned the thing off, and immediatly it turned on again, and now it's in disk mode. |
| 14:34:27 | AlexMax | No idea how that happened. |
| 14:37:09 | AlexMax | Okay, after a few more tries, I booted into the apple firmware and now it's using disk mode. |
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| 14:37:32 | AlexMax | However, I remember an old verison of rockbox automatically rebooting into disk mode when I plug it in to my computer, is there any way to get that behavior back? |
| 14:38:14 | Domonoky | nope, this was removed to allow usb charging with 500ma in rockbox.... |
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| 14:38:35 | Domonoky | someday in the future you will get usb directly in rockbox, so no need to reboot... :-) |
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| 14:40:23 | AlexMax | Domonoky: ipod faq says otherwise, so it might be a good idea to update it to be a little more up to date :) |
| 14:40:28 | AlexMax | thanks for your help |
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| 14:41:58 | Domonoky | AlexMax: its a wiki.. so you can also update.. :-) |
| 14:42:41 | AlexMax | Domonoky: What is "charging with 500ma" anyway, and how is it different than normal charging? |
| 14:42:59 | Bagder | ma == milliampere |
| 14:43:27 | Bagder | and that is what many people would call "normal" charging... :-) |
| 14:44:06 | Domonoky | USB has low and high power, high (e.g. 500ma) has to be requested by software... |
| 14:44:30 | markun | otherwise it's 100ma, right? |
| 14:45:01 | LinusN | yes |
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| 14:45:22 | * | Volcano greets channel |
| 14:45:33 | LinusN | channel grets Volcano |
| 14:45:39 | Volcano | :) |
| 14:45:59 | Volcano | can i get some support here for my ipod 4th gen rockbox port? |
| 14:47:14 | * | Bagder hands Volcano a package of support. The green box. |
| 14:47:41 | * | Domonoky prods LinusN for genlang.cgi .. :-) |
| 14:48:02 | * | petur attaches 'money back if not happy' label to package |
| 14:48:22 | * | Volcano is crushed by the weight of the green box |
| 14:49:22 | Volcano | basicly my pc doest identify rockbox as a mass storage thing |
| 14:49:43 | LinusN | Volcano: you need to run the Apple firmware for USB mode |
| 14:49:45 | Volcano | so i cant enter the space n all |
| 14:49:51 | petur | boot into apple OS before connecting |
| 14:50:07 | Volcano | thats with holding menu right? |
| 14:50:07 | * | LinusN has a deja-vu experience |
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| 14:52:53 | Volcano | well the problem my battery is down, when i hold the menu button it boots apple firmware and starts charging, then its charged a bit and its magicly boots rockbox and it doesnt charge in rockbox, ergo battery doesnt get charged and i cannot enter it |
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| 14:57:04 | bughunter2 | goodday, i've got a little question about rockbox on the iriver h300. will rockbox charge the battery when booted into 'bootloader usb mode' ? (that text msg is all it shows on the screen, no battery indicator) |
| 14:57:32 | petur | not with the currently released one |
| 14:57:35 | Volcano | no, |
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| 14:57:59 | DerPapst | Volcano: flip "hold" on to boot the OF |
| 14:58:08 | Volcano | sigh i wish my h300 didnt die |
| 14:58:43 | DerPapst | did it or just the harddrive? |
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| 14:58:49 | markun | bughunter2: I think so, because charging is hardware controlled |
| 14:59:20 | salty-horse | hi. the text viewer crashes when I click the "right" button. has anyone else noticed that? |
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| 14:59:49 | PaulJam | salty-horse: with every text file? |
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| 15:00:14 | markun | salty-horse: never noticed it. It should jump to the end of the file.. |
| 15:00:36 | salty-horse | only tried with one: http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext95/study10.txt |
| 15:00:50 | salty-horse | (254kb) |
| 15:01:44 | Volcano | thank you for helping out, really appriciate it. wouldnt know what to do without rockbox, half my collection is in flac :) |
| 15:02:06 | AlexMax | a good portion of mine is in mpc |
| 15:02:15 | markun | salty-horse: at least the sim doesn't crash.. |
| 15:03:05 | salty-horse | sec, let me describe the exact steps |
| 15:04:33 | * | Domonoky just got his 3d g sensor working...* jay* .. (not for rockbox of course) .. :-) |
| 15:05:51 | salty-horse | using r15994 (very recent). wordwrap on. line mode: reflow. wide view: yes. scrollbar: off. load file. click "left" - "Data abort as <address>" |
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| 15:09:12 | bughunter2 | markun: i thought the same thing but somehow my battery is broken |
| 15:09:15 | bughunter2 | :P |
| 15:09:23 | bughunter2 | it constantly turns off even while it's charging |
| 15:09:27 | bughunter2 | (only when charging from USB) |
| 15:10:50 | PaulJam | salty-horse: i can confirm, that the uisim crashes with those settings. |
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| 15:13:17 | salty-horse | what's uisim? |
| 15:13:25 | petur | simulator |
| 15:13:39 | salty-horse | should I file a report? |
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| 15:14:00 | petur | yup |
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| 15:16:35 | salty-horse | there's a problem with the severity field in flyspray.. the drop down widget is empty and beside I see the text "CriticalHighMediumLowVery Low" |
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| 15:19:22 | salty-horse | PaulJam, petur, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8445 |
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| 15:27:26 | Bagder | seems cowon made a sansa e200 clone |
| 15:27:35 | Bagder | cowon u5 => http://www.dapreview.net/news.php?item.4203.5 |
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| 15:28:07 | Bagder | iaudio u5 even |
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| 15:32:56 | * | pondlife sees a second "please commit this patch" request on the dev ML and sighs... |
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| 15:35:26 | thgz | Hi |
| 15:35:47 | thgz | I have created a Finnish voice file |
| 15:36:11 | thgz | Where can I submit it so it would be public? Currently it's only in my computer |
| 15:36:35 | GodEater | Flyspray please |
| 15:36:36 | LinusN | thgz: which engine did you use? |
| 15:36:50 | thgz | I used ESpeak |
| 15:37:02 | thgz | Sorry for that, no other options available |
| 15:37:20 | LinusN | that's good, then you are at least allowed to distribute it |
| 15:37:39 | thgz | Godeater: Thanks. I thought that it would be the right place but asced for confirmation... |
| 15:37:44 | pondlife | The VoiceFiles wiki would be best for a static voice file. |
| 15:37:51 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:38:07 | pondlife | Flyspray for any lang file or script changes. |
| 15:38:23 | thgz | So I upload it to the TWiki? |
| 15:38:29 | * | Domonoky waits for LinusNs genlang.cgi, then everybody could easily generate voice files with rbutil :-) |
| 15:38:32 | GodEater | yeah, I misread. Thought he meant a finnish.lang, not a .voice. |
| 15:38:37 | * | GodEater is a bit slow today |
| 15:38:41 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/VoiceFiles |
| 15:39:05 | pondlife | Under "voice files for current builds" |
| 15:39:24 | thgz | ok |
| 15:39:34 | LinusN | Domonoky: i have a better idea |
| 15:39:37 | thgz | Godeater: No problem |
| 15:39:48 | Domonoky | LinusN: even better ? tell me.. |
| 15:40:05 | LinusN | Domonoky: i think we should include a prebuilt file in the rockbox zip file instead |
| 15:40:37 | LinusN | Domonoky: then you can use rbutil to build a voice file for the exact version you have installed |
| 15:40:43 | linuxstb | rockbox-info.txt ? |
| 15:41:22 | Domonoky | that would also be really good.. so the output of genlang -o as a file ? .. doesnt this depend on the language ? |
| 15:41:46 | LinusN | Domonoky: the file should include the ID's, not the strings |
| 15:42:05 | LinusN | hmm |
| 15:42:18 | LinusN | it would need a little more info than just the id's |
| 15:42:23 | Domonoky | jeah the IDs in the correct order would be enough, but the rbutil would need the .lang files aviable somewhre.. |
| 15:42:29 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:43:05 | LinusN | it would be so nice to have the voice building self-contained |
| 15:45:46 | PaulJam | Domonoky: couldn't rbutil use svn to get the .lang files? |
| 15:46:50 | Bagder | the ids with numers are in the lang.h file in the build |
| 15:46:53 | Bagder | numbers |
| 15:47:11 | Domonoky | hm, i dont know too much about svn, wouldnt rbutil then need a svn client builtin ? or is it possible to retrieve files from svn with curl or like ? |
| 15:47:28 | linuxstb | PaulJam: That wouldn't work with patched builds. I think it would be better for a file to be added to .rockbox as part of a normal build. |
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| 15:48:08 | linuxstb | Domonoky: You could use the web interface... |
| 15:48:53 | thgz | ok I'm now in the voice files wiki page |
| 15:49:06 | thgz | Do I attach the file, and edit the table manually? |
| 15:49:13 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:50:17 | thgz | ok |
| 15:50:46 | Domonoky | hm, lang.h could be useable, it has all ids in the correct order, and its already there (only has to be included in the zip).... then i would only have to get the .lang files.. |
| 15:52:09 | LinusN | i'm afraid that you either have to parse the .lng files, or include the .lang files in the zip ... :-( |
| 15:52:49 | LinusN | otherwise you won't be able to build voices for a custom build |
| 15:52:58 | Domonoky | or use viewvc.cgi to get the .lang files.. |
| 15:52:58 | LinusN | maybe that's not a major loss |
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| 15:53:04 | loklaan | hey everyone |
| 15:53:24 | LinusN | Domonoky: that won't help, since custom builds often have their own lang files |
| 15:53:32 | loklaan | i was wondering if someone could help me with using a certain syntax entry in a wds |
| 15:53:34 | Domonoky | LinusN: only custom lang entrys wouldnt be there.. |
| 15:54:04 | thgz | well seems that I need a write permission |
| 15:54:17 | LinusN | Domonoky: of course, but that's bad enough |
| 15:54:24 | amiconn | Domonoky: There would be an ID mismatch when strings are added/removed |
| 15:54:28 | LinusN | Domonoky: otoh, maybe we don't reaally care |
| 15:54:30 | Domonoky | rbutil doesnt support installing custom builds, so no big loss... |
| 15:54:34 | petur | thgz: wiki name? |
| 15:54:53 | thgz | TuukkaOjala |
| 15:54:55 | Domonoky | ID mismatch, true.. i already encounterd this on my tests :-) |
| 15:55:36 | LinusN | Domonoky: still, you know the svn revision, and you have the lang.h file, maybe that's enough |
| 15:55:46 | Bagder | lang.h isn't enough |
| 15:56:03 | Bagder | as it contains all known ids |
| 15:56:07 | thgz | Forgot to mention my last message was for Petur |
| 15:56:10 | Bagder | and specific models don't use some of them |
| 15:56:20 | Domonoky | ah, lang.h isnt filterd for the features ? |
| 15:56:22 | petur | thgz: done |
| 15:56:22 | Bagder | ah |
| 15:56:23 | amiconn | lang.h is generated |
| 15:56:39 | Bagder | exactly, lang.h is the specific one generated by genlang at build time |
| 15:56:52 | Bagder | so it is enough |
| 15:56:57 | Bagder | just not available over svn or similar |
| 15:57:10 | amiconn | No, since it's target specific |
| 15:57:12 | Domonoky | but its easy to include in the zips.. |
| 15:57:18 | Bagder | yes |
| 15:58:25 | thgz | Petur: Thanks much! Finally can submit the voice file :-) |
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| 15:59:01 | Domonoky | so i can just retrieve the voice entries for every id in lang.h and generate clips for it, and finally voicefont it... should work.. :-) |
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| 16:00:34 | loklaan | can someone tell me the syntx order for 1. playing an animation when the charger is plugged in and is charging the player 2. have a still frame when a charger is in but charge is at 100% |
| 16:00:36 | loklaan | please |
| 16:00:42 | Bagder | Domonoky: a pretty slick approach I'd say |
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| 16:02:21 | loklaan | can anyone help me? |
| 16:02:38 | loklaan | there is no documentation on rockbox that i have found that explains this |
| 16:02:41 | Bagder | "the syntx order" ? |
| 16:02:45 | loklaan | yeah |
| 16:02:48 | linuxstb | Are you asking about the WPS? |
| 16:02:50 | loklaan | yes |
| 16:02:57 | Domonoky | Bagder: jup, i will try it this way.. :-) |
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| 16:03:13 | loklaan | sorry i thought i stated that before >.< |
| 16:03:57 | loklaan | does anyone know the order? |
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| 16:04:45 | linuxstb | loklaan: What have you tried so far? |
| 16:05:11 | loklaan | hmm |
| 16:05:15 | loklaan | ok i have tried |
| 16:05:42 | loklaan | %?bp<%xdb> |
| 16:05:42 | loklaan | %t1%?bc<%xda>;%t1%?bc<%xdb> |
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| 16:06:13 | loklaan | that just had bmp "b" show |
| 16:06:16 | loklaan | and no animation |
| 16:06:18 | loklaan | annd |
| 16:06:43 | loklaan | %t1%?bp<%?bc<%xdb|%xda>>;%t1%?bp<%?bc<%xdb|%xdb>> |
| 16:07:11 | loklaan | though i dont even know how the <%xdb|%xda> works |
| 16:08:16 | loklaan | that had the same result as my other attempt |
| 16:08:32 | loklaan | and umm just variations of those have yielded the same results |
| 16:08:44 | loklaan | think you's can help? |
| 16:09:12 | PaulJam | loklaan: you could try something like this: http://pastebin.ca/850865 |
| 16:11:15 | loklaan | it would be good if there were SS's so i would know whats going on |
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| 16:12:20 | PaulJam | SS's? |
| 16:12:27 | loklaan | screenshots |
| 16:13:14 | loklaan | im not sure what the "<%xdb|%xda>" part of "%?bp<%?bc<%xdb|%xda>>" does though, can anyone care to explain please? :S |
| 16:15:12 | PaulJam | Show image b if the devide is charging and show image a when it isn't charging |
| 16:16:04 | loklaan | oooo |
| 16:16:16 | loklaan | thought it would be that |
| 16:16:22 | loklaan | but i wasnt sure in what order |
| 16:16:27 | loklaan | ill retry now |
| 16:19:37 | loklaan | ok i entered this "%t1%?bp<%?bc<%xda|%xdb>>;%t1%?bp<%?bc<%xdb|%xdb>>" |
| 16:19:43 | loklaan | same result :( |
| 16:20:13 | loklaan | it SHOULD of switched from a to b when charging right? it didnt |
| 16:23:48 | loklaan | could i just have %?bc<%xdb|%xda> |
| 16:23:48 | loklaan | ? |
| 16:23:54 | PaulJam | i don't see anything obviously wrong. you could try "%t1%?bp<%?bc<%xda|%xdb>|>;%t1%?bp<%?bc<%xdb|%xdb>|>" , but i don't think it'll make a difference. |
| 16:23:57 | loklaan | in time sequnce |
| 16:24:26 | loklaan | hmm ok |
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| 16:25:12 | PaulJam | could you paste the whole .wps file somewhere? |
| 16:25:56 | loklaan | umm sure, its a mess though, where were you thinking? |
| 16:26:17 | PaulJam | pastebin or something like that |
| 16:26:22 | loklaan | ok |
| 16:27:37 | loklaan | http://pastebin.ca/850886 |
| 16:28:59 | loklaan | no stealing the layout ;] |
| 16:30:45 | loklaan | wwhat do you think? |
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| 16:32:23 | loklaan | %t1%?bc<%xda|%xdb>;%t1%?bc<%xdb|%xdb> shows bmp "b" when the charger isnt even in, so screwww that idea |
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| 16:33:08 | Hoitoa | does anyone know if rockbox will play .mov files on my sansa |
| 16:33:13 | PaulJam | it should work as far as i can see. if you just use %xda does the image a appear? what device are you using? |
| 16:33:36 | loklaan | i am using a iaudio x5 |
| 16:33:59 | loklaan | im not even sure if it supports software charge control or monitoring |
| 16:34:24 | advcomp2019 | Hoitoa, rockbox will not play the sansa mov files.. read the mpegplayer wiki page |
| 16:34:33 | PaulJam | well, is the batteryicon in the statusbar in the menus animated while charging? |
| 16:34:35 | loklaan | Hoitoa: Rockbox, at the moment, only plays MPEG 2 videos |
| 16:35:12 | loklaan | i plug shows |
| 16:35:23 | loklaan | so im out of luck? |
| 16:36:24 | Hoitoa | okay thats what i thought, thanks |
| 16:37:14 | Domonoky | hm... bad, the lang.h file still cant give me enough info for voice file generating.. without features i dont know which voice entry is the correct one in the .lang files... :-// |
| 16:37:55 | PaulJam | hmm, i would have thought that the x5 monitors charging, but i don't own such a device. |
| 16:38:05 | amiconn | It does not yet |
| 16:38:18 | amiconn | iAudio power management still needs work |
| 16:38:33 | loklaan | ok thanks for clearing that up amiconn |
| 16:38:45 | loklaan | and thanks heaps for all the help PaulJam ^_^ |
| 16:39:08 | loklaan | i guess ill just have to have the animation play all the time when the plug is in |
| 16:39:17 | Bagder | Domonoky: genlang -o output might be what you need |
| 16:39:51 | pondlife | Who's the wiki admin? |
| 16:40:10 | Bagder | zagor's the uberadmin |
| 16:40:29 | pondlife | Anyone able to e-mail me my password? |
| 16:40:36 | pondlife | Seems my records are wrong |
| 16:40:39 | Domonoky | Bagder: yes indeed.. but genlang is perl.. :-/ and it needs the features as input.. |
| 16:40:55 | Bagder | Domonoky: I meant it should generate a list for inclusion in the zip file |
| 16:41:11 | Domonoky | Bagder: for every language ? |
| 16:41:24 | Bagder | ehm |
| 16:41:56 | Bagder | but the Ids: are the same for all languages, right? |
| 16:42:04 | Domonoky | yes... |
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| 16:42:30 | Bagder | so you could get the ids only from the -o output and store that |
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| 16:42:52 | Domonoky | i also can get the ids and the correct order from the lang.h file... but then i still dont know which voice if there is more then one voice entry.. |
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| 16:43:40 | Bagder | argh |
| 16:44:33 | Domonoky | jeah... arg... maybe i should just work on rebuilding genlang in rbutil... or LinusN s idea of a genlang.cgi :-) |
| 16:45:38 | Bagder | genlang.cgi seems easier |
| 16:45:59 | Bagder | although |
| 16:46:06 | Bagder | it'll get the problem with different versions |
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| 16:46:17 | Domonoky | i dont know much about cgi, so its a bit out of my scope.. |
| 16:46:26 | Bagder | possibly we could pass in the svn rev number |
| 16:46:53 | Bagder | genlang.cgi?rev=[rev]&lang=[lang] |
| 16:47:07 | Domonoky | and the target.. |
| 16:47:13 | Bagder | oh right |
| 16:47:29 | Bagder | and then simply spit out the genlang -o output |
| 16:47:39 | Domonoky | best would be only a string or id, not the complete features string.. |
| 16:48:08 | Bagder | what do you mean? |
| 16:48:28 | Domonoky | at moment genlang takes all features as target input.. |
| 16:48:41 | Domonoky | something like: h120:recording:radio..... |
| 16:48:45 | Bagder | right |
| 16:48:57 | Bagder | but it needs to do that since it can't figure them out by itself |
| 16:49:43 | Domonoky | but how should rbutil know this features ? a buit in list isnt good.. |
| 16:49:59 | Bagder | no, either the cgi figures them out or there's a list in the zip |
| 16:50:27 | Domonoky | or the features file generated when the buildservers make voice gets published.. |
| 16:50:50 | Bagder | that's not good enough for when features changes |
| 16:51:04 | Bagder | we need the specific set for the particular svn rev |
| 16:51:28 | Domonoky | then it would need to be included in the rockbox.zip.. |
| 16:51:38 | Bagder | yes, or figured out by the cgi |
| 16:51:49 | Bagder | since that will get the rev and extract the correct things from svn anyway |
| 16:51:56 | Domonoky | maybe as extra info in rockbox-info.. yes or the cgi knows it, if it can... |
| 16:52:11 | Bagder | it would however be rather complicated to let the cgi figure it out |
| 16:52:48 | Bagder | yes, it could simply be an extra line in rockbox-info.txt |
| 16:52:51 | Domonoky | Bagder: do you have time for building such a cgi script, or are you busy as everyone else :-) |
| 16:53:10 | Bagder | I'll see what I can do |
| 16:53:35 | Domonoky | nice.. :-) |
| 16:54:15 | Bagder | sleep is overrated anyway |
| 16:54:43 | Domonoky | hehe.. |
| 16:55:01 | Domonoky | food too... i have to go shopping... cu later. :-) |
| 16:55:10 | * | pondlife will take any spare sleep you're not using... |
| 16:55:23 | pondlife | Pop it in the blue box |
| 16:57:28 | loklaan | AMICONN! still listening? how did you know that the iuadio x5 didnt have power management under wraps? |
| 16:58:44 | Bagder | amiconn knows everything! |
| 16:58:52 | Bagder | including what you did last summer |
| 16:58:59 | loklaan | :| oh snap |
| 16:59:18 | loklaan | is he/she a developer of rockbox? |
| 16:59:26 | Bagder | he is, yes |
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| 17:01:36 | loklaan | okly doke |
| 17:01:42 | loklaan | :| that was gay haha |
| 17:01:56 | loklaan | anywho bye bye, im tired sleepy time/naruto time |
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| 18:24:54 | cara1 | hey i have a problem |
| 18:25:24 | cara1 | i dont know where to put the music on my ipod nano |
| 18:25:35 | Nico_P | you can put it anywhere you want |
| 18:25:43 | cara1 | its running with newest rockbox version |
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| 18:27:25 | Tuplanolla | hum, why did the button layout change and when did it change? i don't like it at all, and i would like to have an option. |
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| 18:28:14 | Domonoky | Tuplanolla: you can get your money back if you are not satisfied. :-) |
| 18:28:53 | Tuplanolla | Domonoky: :) |
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| 18:29:24 | Nico_P | Tuplanolla: you're free to change it back, but the decision was made for the sake of consistency and because people thought it was better that way |
| 18:29:33 | Tuplanolla | but is there any chances of getting a settings menu entry for it? |
| 18:29:37 | Nico_P | no |
| 18:29:53 | Tuplanolla | yeah, that's a thing what others like and some others don't |
| 18:29:59 | Tuplanolla | why not? |
| 18:30:20 | Nico_P | because it's bloat and would be a support nightmare |
| 18:30:28 | Nico_P | what device do you have btw? |
| 18:30:33 | Tuplanolla | e280 |
| 18:30:47 | Nico_P | my advice is to get used to it... takes a bit of time but you'll eventually manage ;) |
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| 18:31:12 | Tuplanolla | ok, thanks anyway |
| 18:32:14 | Nico_P | we know this kind of change is inconvenient, but we have to make them at one point |
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| 18:33:52 | pressure11 | i have a problem |
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| 18:34:16 | pressure11 | the music i add to my ipod is in the wrong folder |
| 18:34:41 | pressure11 | its not in database, its in file |
| 18:35:08 | pressure11 | where must i put the music rightly? |
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| 18:35:35 | advcomp2019 | pressure11, have you rebuilt the database |
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| 18:36:31 | pressure11 | how to do that? |
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| 18:37:49 | advcomp2019 | pressure11, i think that is in the manual |
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| 18:41:55 | amiconn | woot |
| 18:42:26 | * | amiconn managed to get rid of audio skipping (mp3) on PP5002 when the greylib is active :) |
| 18:42:33 | Nico_P | nice |
| 18:43:06 | amiconn | IRAM for the inner loop in the ISR |
| 18:43:46 | jhMikeS | that's all it was? good to know. |
| 18:44:03 | amiconn | Reduces ISR cpu load from 44% to 34% on my G2 |
| 18:44:45 | amiconn | Seems like a good idea to write an lcd_write_data() for those greyscale ipods now that I've started lcd-as-gray.S anyway |
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| 18:54:15 | thgz | Tuplanolla: I have a sansa e250 and I'm quite familiar with the keyboard layout |
| 18:55:01 | Tuplanolla | thgz: ok, it's just like i said earlier |
| 18:55:13 | Tuplanolla | some people like, some others hate |
| 18:56:02 | Tuplanolla | and i think i can always make a patch for it :) |
| 18:56:21 | Buschel | As the current consumption of PP-targets seems to scale a lot with the cpu frequency i'd like to start a discussion about usage of COP: as far ass i know the COP is not used during normal playback of audio-files −− correct? we also know that on e.g. a 5G-ipod a screen update consumes 0.8MHz of cpu power. With active WPS (=5fps) this leads to an additional load of about 4MHz only for screen update, not taking into account the WPS-stuff itself |
| 18:56:45 | Buschel | oops, din't want to write "ass" -> should be "as" ;o) |
| 18:57:41 | thgz | Yep, might do the same thing if I wouldn't like the key layout |
| 18:58:32 | thgz | Tuplanolla: Btw, did you use the original firmware before putting Rockbox? |
| 18:59:06 | Tuplanolla | thgz: a couple of days, yeah. |
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| 18:59:58 | thgz | Ah, I straight put rockbox to the device when I got it |
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| 19:00:19 | Tuplanolla | i didn't even know about rb when i got my sansa |
| 19:00:25 | thgz | And used the original firmware when it was required |
| 19:00:32 | pressure11 | how to put music into the database ? its allway in folder files and not in the database |
| 19:00:50 | BigBambi | pressure11: Same as last time you asked, initialise the database |
| 19:00:51 | thgz | Pressure11: Please try to update the database |
| 19:01:04 | pressure11 | yeah but how |
| 19:01:10 | pressure11 | i cant find it in the manual |
| 19:01:15 | BigBambi | by reading the section in the manual on database |
| 19:01:22 | BigBambi | It is there |
| 19:01:22 | Tuplanolla | settings - database |
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| 19:01:39 | thgz | Or from the database quick menu |
| 19:01:49 | PaulJam | chapter 4.2 of the manual |
| 19:02:04 | BigBambi | pressure11: Section 4.2.2 - the title is even "Initialising the database" |
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| 19:02:13 | BigBambi | How can we make that clearer? |
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| 19:02:34 | pressure11 | point 4.2.2? |
| 19:02:43 | thgz | yep |
| 19:02:43 | BigBambi | pressure11: Which player? |
| 19:03:00 | BigBambi | pressure11: Seriosuly, did you even look? |
| 19:03:08 | pressure11 | ipod nano 1st gen |
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| 19:03:46 | BigBambi | pressure11: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-450004.2.2 |
| 19:04:47 | thgz | Brb, I'm gonna get some sauna... |
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| 19:06:10 | pressure11 | what after initialising? |
| 19:06:19 | BigBambi | what? |
| 19:06:23 | BigBambi | Just initialise it |
| 19:06:29 | Tuplanolla | the reboot and voila |
| 19:06:30 | pressure11 | ok and than? |
| 19:06:37 | BigBambi | use it? |
| 19:07:15 | pressure11 | i'm sorry for my english i'm from germany :) |
| 19:08:09 | BigBambi | there is no issue with your english |
| 19:08:25 | pressure11 | do the database get the music from "files"? |
| 19:08:31 | pressure11 | ty :) |
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| 19:08:47 | BigBambi | yes |
| 19:08:58 | BigBambi | Files just links to the directory tree on you ipod |
| 19:09:09 | BigBambi | It shows you what files are on there like windows explorer |
| 19:09:21 | BigBambi | The database is a database of tags |
| 19:10:28 | pressure11 | if i put the music with itunes on my ipod would it initialise it or not? |
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| 19:10:38 | BigBambi | If you tuen auto update on |
| 19:10:46 | BigBambi | and load to ram, it should auto update |
| 19:11:05 | BigBambi | when you select initialise it just rebuilds the database from the beginning |
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| 19:11:26 | pressure11 | ok i'll try it |
| 19:14:22 | pressure11 | thanks |
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| 20:04:29 | Hans-Martin | hi folks. |
| 20:05:43 | Hans-Martin | I solved my SDL rockboxui problem: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14557.msg111124#msg111124 |
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| 20:06:43 | Hans-Martin | So it was an ALSA configuration thing, but somewhat more robust SDL-Audio code would have helped. I see whether I can rig it so that misconfigured ALSA does not cause rockboxui crashes but really verbose output... |
| 20:07:01 | Nico_P | Hans-Martin: congrats :) |
| 20:07:30 | Hans-Martin | now when I'm playing with the SDL audio code, I might as well implement the recording interface :-) |
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| 20:22:17 | ricli | hello |
| 20:22:38 | ricli | is there any way to change the path for the playlist catalog? |
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| 20:25:49 | BigBambi | ricli: I believe you will have to get into the code |
| 20:26:01 | Hans-Martin | ok, no recording interface for me as SDL does not have any recording functions :-( |
| 20:26:23 | Hans-Martin | ricli: use the source luke! |
| 20:26:57 | ricli | hehe, ok |
| 20:27:04 | ricli | I must say that rockbox is really cool |
| 20:27:13 | BigBambi | that it is |
| 20:27:13 | ricli | works great on my video ipod |
| 20:27:27 | ricli | I'm switching now to rockbox |
| 20:27:42 | BigBambi | glad to hear it |
| 20:27:46 | ricli | even deleted all other files that was there before :) |
| 20:27:50 | BigBambi | :) |
| 20:27:57 | BigBambi | The OF will recreate them if you boot it |
| 20:28:05 | ricli | OF? |
| 20:28:11 | thgz | Yep, SAnsa too. It's annoying |
| 20:28:12 | BigBambi | original firmware |
| 20:28:19 | ricli | ah, ok |
| 20:28:30 | ricli | I wont do that anyway |
| 20:28:42 | ricli | rockbox seems so superior |
| 20:28:42 | thgz | Ricli: Congratulations! Glad to hear that you're switching. |
| 20:28:58 | thgz | It is |
| 20:29:22 | ricli | i find in nice to be able to just copy files from my computer onto the ipod, and then be able to play |
| 20:29:31 | thgz | that's handy |
| 20:29:36 | ricli | no need for itunes db and stuff |
| 20:29:55 | thgz | I had a shuffle but never be familiar with ITunes |
| 20:30:45 | Hans-Martin | DRM surely has it's disadvantages... ;-) |
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| 20:31:06 | thgz | But it's possible to remove the drm protection |
| 20:31:11 | thgz | Although it's illegal |
| 20:31:16 | ricli | since I switched to db I had had some troubles getting the ipod to work (transfering files), but now with rockbox this will change |
| 20:31:20 | BigBambi | thgz: And not to be discussed here |
| 20:31:41 | ricli | switched to linux that is :) |
| 20:31:43 | thgz | Not going to, just said |
| 20:32:07 | ricli | I'm glad I found this project |
| 20:32:25 | Hans-Martin | yes the trouble is that for a law-abiding chap such as me a DRM-crippled player would just make enjoying music more difficult... |
| 20:33:13 | thgz | Yep, I see |
| 20:34:21 | thgz | Bigbambi: Sorry if I caused a heart attack, don't do that again :P |
| 20:34:33 | BigBambi | hmmm? |
| 20:34:55 | BigBambi | Oh, no, we just don't want people discussing that here, so I was just pointing it out |
| 20:35:01 | BigBambi | Don't worry :) |
| 20:35:35 | GrooveStix | hey people, any developers for the GigaBeat firmware here? |
| 20:35:42 | BigBambi | some |
| 20:35:46 | thgz | Oh I understand |
| 20:36:05 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: Just ask any questions, if people are here and can help they will. If not, people read the logs |
| 20:36:17 | GrooveStix | oh! right, the logs... |
| 20:36:43 | GrooveStix | I was only wondering people are aware of the freezing that happens when I unplug my player (Gigabeat) |
| 20:36:57 | BigBambi | What freezing? |
| 20:37:08 | GrooveStix | well, here's how it happens the most |
| 20:38:28 | GrooveStix | I plug in the gigabeat through a USB cable to my laptop. turn it on. do what I want to do on it... unmount it from windows... unplug it and when do that, the screen freezes to that grayish/blue color |
| 20:38:47 | BigBambi | I don't get that |
| 20:38:53 | GrooveStix | what part? |
| 20:39:00 | BigBambi | The freezing |
| 20:39:18 | BigBambi | Sorry, I mean it doesn't happen to my gigabeat, not I don't understand :) |
| 20:39:20 | GrooveStix | well that's why I am here. lets see |
| 20:39:32 | GrooveStix | well |
| 20:40:00 | GrooveStix | if my gigabeat is already on, and I plug it in, I have no problem afterwards |
| 20:40:05 | thgz | Do you have the latest build? |
| 20:40:19 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: So the problem comes using Bootloader USB mode? |
| 20:40:28 | GrooveStix | I have updated it few days ago, although I am skeptical... |
| 20:40:55 | GrooveStix | the problem has been around for awhile... I'll update it right now again, just in case |
| 20:40:59 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: It may or may not be the problem here, but we ask you use an up-to-date build when reporting anything just in case |
| 20:41:16 | GrooveStix | okay |
| 20:41:20 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: So is it only in bootloader USB mode there is a problem? |
| 20:41:38 | GrooveStix | well, the way I see it |
| 20:41:45 | GrooveStix | there are 2 different bootloader modes |
| 20:41:54 | BigBambi | ? |
| 20:42:06 | GrooveStix | one with the pretty yellow backdrop, and the other is the one with the grayish screen |
| 20:42:24 | GrooveStix | I have problems in the second one |
| 20:42:27 | BigBambi | the first is what you get when plugging in from rockbox right? |
| 20:42:37 | BigBambi | In which case it is not the bootloader, you are in rockbox |
| 20:42:41 | GrooveStix | right |
| 20:42:50 | BigBambi | The bootloader is what loads rockbox |
| 20:42:59 | BigBambi | When you are in rockbox, that is not the bootloader |
| 20:43:11 | BigBambi | Let me try here with bootloader USB, one moment |
| 20:43:16 | GrooveStix | okay that's kinda condusing |
| 20:43:19 | GrooveStix | *confusing |
| 20:43:32 | BigBambi | why? |
| 20:43:39 | BigBambi | Those are the proper terms |
| 20:43:48 | GrooveStix | okay but I am not a developer |
| 20:43:58 | GrooveStix | just a user |
| 20:44:07 | BigBambi | ah bootloader boots and loads the firmware |
| 20:44:13 | BigBambi | hence bootloader |
| 20:44:39 | GrooveStix | right, but what's the difference between the 2 screens I mentioned |
| 20:45:09 | BigBambi | one is the usb mode from within rockbox (the colourful one), the other is the usb mode in the bootloader |
| 20:45:52 | GrooveStix | I see |
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| 20:46:05 | GrooveStix | that makes sense now |
| 20:46:13 | BigBambi | :) |
| 20:46:24 | GrooveStix | now let us see |
| 20:46:41 | * | BigBambi is just booting windows on the other computer, then I'll test |
| 20:47:22 | GrooveStix | is deleting the .rockbox folder first the best way to update rockbox? |
| 20:47:29 | BigBambi | just overwrite |
| 20:47:31 | GrooveStix | or it doesn't matter |
| 20:47:37 | BigBambi | If you delete it you will lose your settings |
| 20:47:47 | GrooveStix | I know i know |
| 20:48:01 | GrooveStix | but is there difference ? |
| 20:48:14 | BigBambi | not if you overwrite properly |
| 20:48:28 | GrooveStix | ok |
| 20:49:36 | BigBambi | well, bootloader usb mode works fine here. I connected in it, did some stuff, safely removed, unplugged the cable, and it booted rockbox |
| 20:49:54 | GrooveStix | try it few times |
| 20:50:15 | BigBambi | ok |
| 20:50:35 | GrooveStix | sometimes it works nicely. but most times it freezes for me |
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| 20:51:39 | BigBambi | how often? |
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| 20:52:37 | GrooveStix | almost every time |
| 20:52:46 | BigBambi | hmmm, 4 times in a row fine now |
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| 20:53:37 | GrooveStix | I am trying it too, seems okay... maybe one of the updates got to it.. but if not, what can I do? |
| 20:54:57 | BigBambi | I would post to the forum (not as a bug report), but to see if anyone else suffers from it. If so, then you can post a bug report. For now, you could just start rockbox before connecting |
| 20:55:28 | BigBambi | well, the bootloader is seperate to the build, so updating the build shouldn't affect it |
| 20:56:05 | BigBambi | You could also check you have the most recent bootloader (although it hasn't changed in ages) |
| 20:56:32 | GrooveStix | I am doing some larger operations right now |
| 20:56:57 | GrooveStix | as in transferring big chunks of music |
| 20:57:10 | GrooveStix | usually that's what I do |
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| 20:57:41 | BigBambi | maybe that affects it, I don't know |
| 20:58:42 | GrooveStix | ok. here is what just happened |
| 20:58:50 | GrooveStix | this time it turned off completely |
| 20:58:56 | GrooveStix | instead booting rockbox |
| 20:59:17 | BigBambi | ah, now I do vaguely remember that happening |
| 20:59:24 | GrooveStix | after I unplugged of course |
| 20:59:25 | TWalter | Is anyone online sufficiently familiar enough with the iPod hardware to determine if a patent description is, in fact, describing the BCM2722? |
| 20:59:53 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: Perhaps check if there is anything on the tracker |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:02 | GrooveStix | tracker?! |
| 21:00:09 | GrooveStix | bugspray ? |
| 21:00:22 | krazykit | flyspray |
| 21:00:27 | GrooveStix | oh yeah |
| 21:00:32 | DerPapst | poor fly :-( |
| 21:01:52 | J3TC- | Hrmm...are of any of X5 wps configured for the new viewport? ;x |
| 21:01:59 | GrooveStix | pretty fly. for a white guy. |
| 21:04:00 | GrooveStix | BigBambi: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7184 |
| 21:07:31 | BigBambi | GrooveStix: Ah, cool. So perhaps you should comment saying you get it too with as many details as possible |
| 21:07:52 | GrooveStix | it's the same exact thing |
| 21:08:45 | BigBambi | I know, but only one person has reported it, with two others saying they don't get it |
| 21:08:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:08:55 | BigBambi | So not much impetus for anyone to look at it |
| 21:09:20 | BigBambi | If you add to it saying you get it too, then it might give it more weight |
| 21:09:40 | GrooveStix | I presume I need an account right/ |
| 21:09:42 | GrooveStix | ? |
| 21:09:51 | BigBambi | yep |
| 21:09:52 | GrooveStix | is there a dummy one I can use? |
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| 21:09:55 | BigBambi | nope |
| 21:09:58 | GrooveStix | :( |
| 21:10:09 | BigBambi | we don't want it spammed |
| 21:10:17 | BigBambi | Making people sign up helps a lot |
| 21:11:11 | GrooveStix | well, it could be cool to cut down the steps. these guys got it right: http://divxsubtitles.net/index.php?c=login |
| 21:11:20 | GrooveStix | I know it's unrelated website |
| 21:11:29 | BigBambi | Well, that is the way it is |
| 21:11:35 | GrooveStix | but |
| 21:11:44 | GrooveStix | If you don't want to register, you can also login with 'demo@divxsubtitles.net' as your username and 'demo' as your password. Welcome to divxsubtitles.net! |
| 21:12:09 | BigBambi | Good for them |
| 21:12:11 | krazykit | GrooveStix, please do keep in mind this is an on-topic channel |
| 21:12:21 | GrooveStix | sorry for spamming but it seems like it's a good idea |
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| 21:12:38 | BigBambi | I disagree |
| 21:13:45 | GrooveStix | I just don't like registering all over the place, that's all... it saves me lots of headaches |
| 21:14:12 | markun | BigBambi: we had a lot of problems with SPAM in the wiki :( |
| 21:14:24 | BigBambi | Indeed so |
| 21:14:35 | BigBambi | So lets keep it off the traker |
| 21:14:35 | markun | mostly hidden links to websites so they would get a better google ranking |
| 21:14:37 | BigBambi | :) |
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| 21:18:43 | GrooveStix | why would anyone spam such a specific website |
| 21:18:45 | GrooveStix | ? |
| 21:18:57 | GrooveStix | it's not lole it has millions of users |
| 21:19:03 | GrooveStix | *like |
| 21:19:13 | GrooveStix | or am I mistaken ? |
| 21:19:28 | BigBambi | Why is irrelevant |
| 21:19:42 | BigBambi | And we have a huge number of users |
| 21:20:14 | GrooveStix | I don't know, it still doesn't make too much sense |
| 21:20:27 | GrooveStix | how many users though? i wonder... |
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| 21:20:42 | BigBambi | Still irrelevant given it happens |
| 21:20:54 | Domonoky | they spam because rockbox has a high google rank.. |
| 21:21:25 | Domonoky | and the rockbox users are between 10.000 and millions, nobody knows for sure :-) |
| 21:22:15 | GrooveStix | ha! i didn't think of the ranking... and whoa! I didn't know there are so many people not liking their original firmwares |
| 21:22:19 | GrooveStix | damn |
| 21:22:29 | BigBambi | In october 2007 we had 100,000 downloads not including one of the download servers, mirrors, or custom builds |
| 21:23:23 | GrooveStix | that's a big number indeed |
| 21:23:35 | scorche|w | i figure we have 30,000-60,000 ish |
| 21:23:48 | thgz | wow, so much |
| 21:23:48 | markun | GrooveStix: some players have very bad original firmwares. I know, because I have a Gigabeat F40 :) |
| 21:23:48 | BigBambi | sounds about right |
| 21:23:55 | scorche|w | if i were to guess, i would go with 37-40 ish |
| 21:24:15 | thgz | GrooveStix: I'm not say that the people are not liking their original. They like rockbox more. |
| 21:24:28 | GrooveStix | well maybe that's just me |
| 21:24:45 | GrooveStix | since gigabeat is a cool player, with a terrible firmware |
| 21:25:05 | GrooveStix | all that DRM doesn't work for me |
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| 21:25:48 | GrooveStix | that's the main thing, but the music managing program also sucked too. |
| 21:25:54 | BigBambi | I never even booted the F40 OF |
| 21:25:55 | BigBambi | I only bought it after markun (+ others) did the hard work of getting rockbox on it :) |
| 21:25:58 | GrooveStix | the only good thing were the EQs |
| 21:26:09 | thgz | Yep, DRM doesn't make much sense to me also. I have stopped to buy from online music stores. IMO it's a better opinion to rip myself a cd without any protections |
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| 21:26:44 | thgz | aah again going ot |
| 21:27:15 | thgz | That's a curse to me, be warned ;-) |
| 21:27:40 | GrooveStix | Ohhh! Toshiba Gigabeat F! |
| 21:27:57 | GrooveStix | wasn't it Toshiba Gigabeat F10 in the begining ? |
| 21:29:06 | GrooveStix | (I meant to say, wasn't the firmware for Toshiba Gigabeat F10 in the beginning? ) |
| 21:29:47 | BigBambi | what firmware? |
| 21:29:47 | BigBambi | ROckbox was originally for the old archos players many years ago, then iriver H100, then H300, then... |
| 21:30:07 | BigBambi | gigabeat is a relative newcomer |
| 21:30:59 | GrooveStix | right, I though it could be only on F10 previously |
| 21:31:27 | GrooveStix | or any Fs? |
| 21:31:28 | krazykit | no, the gigabeat F port ran on all of the F series, as the only hardware differences was the hard drive |
| 21:31:34 | BigBambi | F10, F20, F40, whatever use the same version of rockbox and were supported at the same time |
| 21:31:54 | BigBambi | and as I said, the gigabeat F port was later many others |
| 21:32:51 | GrooveStix | I see. I probably was drunk or something... :) |
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| 21:33:14 | GrooveStix | anyway, I commented on the bug, does that bump it? |
| 21:33:24 | BigBambi | in what way? |
| 21:33:25 | GrooveStix | (like a forum post) |
| 21:33:31 | BigBambi | It isn't a forum |
| 21:33:34 | GrooveStix | right |
| 21:33:44 | GrooveStix | but it's an old bug report |
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| 21:33:53 | GrooveStix | will it get noticed? |
| 21:33:54 | BigBambi | yes, it is |
| 21:34:03 | BigBambi | sure |
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| 21:34:42 | GrooveStix | okay |
| 21:34:48 | BigBambi | you do know rockbox is developed by volunteers in their spare time? |
| 21:34:59 | BigBambi | People work on what they want |
| 21:35:00 | GrooveStix | yes, that's why I am not cursing |
| 21:35:04 | GrooveStix | :) |
| 21:35:13 | BigBambi | This isn't a critical bug, so I doubt it is the top of anyone's list |
| 21:35:49 | GrooveStix | hmmm |
| 21:36:20 | GrooveStix | at least, does this make sense to you: "Note: This doesn't happen if I boot Rockbox first and then plug in/out." ? |
| 21:36:27 | bluebrother | btw, has there been any progress on the usb stack? |
| 21:36:29 | BigBambi | yep |
| 21:36:37 | GrooveStix | (english is not my first language, so I wanna make sure) |
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| 21:36:43 | BigBambi | at GrooveStix |
| 21:36:43 | BigBambi | bluebrother: no |
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| 21:37:15 | BigBambi | Still without t'internet? :( |
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| 21:38:03 | bluebrother | yeah, unfortunately. |
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| 21:38:28 | bluebrother | those bastards take their time in bringing up the link :( |
| 21:38:36 | BigBambi | any eta? |
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| 21:39:41 | bluebrother | maybe end of month. But that's awful long until |
| 21:39:50 | BigBambi | certainly is |
| 21:40:24 | bluebrother | it's already over 2 months without net due to my move now. |
| 21:40:32 | BigBambi | rubbish |
| 21:40:51 | Domonoky | bluebrother: no freifunk people or open wlans near your home ? |
| 21:41:09 | bluebrother | Domonoky: there are wlans but those are encrypted |
| 21:41:44 | Domonoky | too bad... |
| 21:41:44 | bluebrother | funny thing is that going to an internet cafe is almost as expensive as using my mobile. |
| 21:42:04 | bluebrother | (so I prefer staying at home with my own machine ;-) |
| 21:43:03 | GrooveStix | alright, hopefully I was helpful, but it's time to swing! (jazz musician here) |
| 21:45:03 | GrooveStix | later |
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| 22:30:31 | Bagder | Domonoky: first genlang cgi version seems to be working |
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| 22:36:14 | Domonoky | nice!! :-) |
| 22:36:41 | Domonoky | can you give me the url to poke on it ? :-) |
| 22:36:46 | Bagder | and as you may have seen, the features are now in the rockbox-info file |
| 22:37:04 | Domonoky | yes, i have seen it.. nice work.. |
| 22:37:22 | Bagder | URL in PM for now |
| 22:37:38 | Domonoky | thy |
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| 22:39:20 | n17ikh|Lappy | is there a good reason replaygain is under general settings instead of sound settings? |
| 22:40:02 | Llorean | Replaygain should be under playback. |
| 22:40:05 | Llorean | Isn't it? |
| 22:40:10 | n17ikh|Lappy | well, it is |
| 22:40:16 | n17ikh|Lappy | but that's under general settings |
| 22:40:18 | Llorean | "Sound" are settings that affect all sound output. |
| 22:40:25 | n17ikh|Lappy | makes sense, I guess |
| 22:40:33 | Llorean | Replaygain only works on certain types of audio files, with certain tags, and is only relevant during music playback. |
| 22:40:44 | n17ikh|Lappy | Ah. |
| 22:40:59 | Bagder | Domonoky: I've only tested it a bit so far so let me know if you find something that breaks it |
| 22:41:00 | n17ikh|Lappy | well, ah, as in sound affects all output, even that of plugins etc |
| 22:41:05 | Bagder | or if you want something changed |
| 22:41:12 | Llorean | It's possible that "Playback" should be under "Sound", but this is a topic for discussion in terms of general menu reorganization. |
| 22:41:22 | Domonoky | will do, thanxs for your work.. |
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| 22:47:17 | thgz | Btw |
| 22:47:39 | thgz | Is it a hardware issue that when recording, the voice is very quiet |
| 22:47:44 | thgz | I'm using sansa e250 |
| 22:47:59 | thgz | Haven't found a way to set gaim higher |
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| 22:48:40 | Hans-Martin | thgz: uh - the recording screen should have a control for the recording gain. at least it has on my iriver... |
| 22:49:21 | thgz | Didn't know. I have to use voiced menus so the recording screen isn't accessible. |
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| 22:50:57 | JdGordon|w | Nico_P: if/when your bored... can you do a quick n dirty patch to get the statusbar/fm using the wps parser please? doesnt need to be full, just as an example? |
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| 22:51:43 | Hans-Martin | thgz: ok, I don't know how the voiced menus work, sorry |
| 22:51:56 | thgz | I'll try the daily built English festival voice file (although it sucks) if the rec screen works with it |
| 22:51:58 | Nico_P | JdGordon|w: it needs some thought... currently the parser code is made to parse to a complete wps struct and I doubt we want many of those |
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| 22:53:28 | JdGordon|w | arnt the values set in the tag parse funcitons? |
| 22:55:04 | Nico_P | yeah they are but as #defines... we'll need vars, so we'll probably want a generic struct |
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| 22:55:21 | Nico_P | shouldn't be too hard though |
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| 22:56:14 | Nico_P | I'll probably try to whip something up tomorrow or later this evening... the latter sounds less probable though |
| 22:57:41 | thgz | Hmm... In the "current build" page, in the position where the revision number should be, there reads "broken? " on all targets |
| 22:58:33 | roolku | doh |
| 22:58:45 | Bagder | a 1400 points commit |
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| 23:00:19 | roolku | didn't mean to commit the autostart.c entry, but what are the warnings about...ponder... |
| 23:00:19 | thgz | Does this mean that I shouldn't update or is this just a bug in the page? |
| 23:00:55 | Bagder | thgz: it means the latest build failed and isn't working |
| 23:01:12 | thgz | Ok thanks for the info |
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| 23:02:30 | Bagder | roolku: the warnings seem to be the old annoying ones that aren't due to that commit |
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| 23:02:40 | disorganizer | guten abend kugel :-) |
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| 23:04:01 | kugel | disorganizer: hallo |
| 23:04:05 | kugel | are you from germany? |
| 23:04:16 | disorganizer | @kugel: yes :-) |
| 23:04:29 | kugel | me too |
| 23:04:34 | roolku | Bagder: yes, looks like it |
| 23:05:40 | disorganizer | @kugel: already noticed ;-) did you find out why the antialias patch disturbs the vp-wps's? |
| 23:06:40 | JdGordon|w | Nico_P: ok, cool |
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| 23:07:52 | kugel | disorganizer: no |
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| 23:11:42 | disorganizer | @kugel: could you reproduce the error? |
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| 23:13:03 | kugel | disorganizer: no, but I believe you. I can't do much about this anti-aliased fonts. the patch wasn't created by me or something |
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| 23:14:02 | Hans-Martin | where do I need to put a voice file on the player's file system? I tried putting english.voice into .rockbox, but I don't hear anything |
| 23:14:02 | kugel | though, I do not really understand that problem, since the patch uses quite the same mechanics as the normal font rendering |
| 23:15:15 | Hans-Martin | oops, sorry, did not find the appropriate wiki page at first... |
| 23:15:50 | disorganizer | kugel: ah. i thought you made it cause there was no patch# in the list. too bad, the fonts look awful nice anti-aliased |
| 23:16:02 | kugel | yea |
| 23:16:46 | kugel | did you try editting your wps and <theme>.cfg to use the font as a user font? |
| 23:17:47 | kugel | like: userfont1: FreeSans.fnt and in the wps %V|x|y|width|height|2|color1|color2| ? |
| 23:18:05 | Hans-Martin | thgz: I now see what you mean. The recording screen is obviously not voice-enabled. |
| 23:18:12 | disorganizer | not yet. but i will. just have to migrate von cj back to your build to do it *g* |
| 23:19:01 | kugel | sure |
| 23:19:08 | kugel | but, I recommend a fresh install |
| 23:19:17 | kugel | this makes things much easier |
| 23:19:18 | Hans-Martin | thgz: if you enter the recording screen, you should press <down> once to go to the input gain control. Then click <right> a number of times to increase gain |
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| 23:22:31 | disorganizer | @kugel: tried it in the sim, but it seems that multifont doesnt work... code examples follow |
| 23:22:43 | disorganizer | config: userfont1: /.rockbox/fonts/FreeSans.fnt |
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| 23:22:55 | disorganizer | wps: |
| 23:22:58 | disorganizer | %V|38|0|100|12|2|FFFFFF|000080| |
| 23:23:18 | disorganizer | but the wps only shows the system font |
| 23:23:40 | disorganizer | trying non-antialiased font now... |
| 23:24:11 | kugel | disorganizer: don't forget, userfont1 is 2 in wps, userfont2 is 3 in wps and so on |
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| 23:25:27 | disorganizer | yes, i used 2 for userfont1: (and of course it said FreeSans_15.fnt) |
| 23:26:19 | Llorean | As this is a channel for official development, unsupported builds, and patches not intended for inclusion really shouldn't be under discussion here. |
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| 23:46:59 | walla | hi |
| 23:47:28 | Bagder | committer #58 is now official |
| 23:47:44 | Bagder | Rob "shotofadds" |
| 23:47:51 | Domonoky_ | jay i just generated a working deutsch.voice with rbutil, and with the new genlang.cgi !! :-) |
| 23:48:00 | Bagder | c00l! |
| 23:48:33 | Domonoky_ | now i only have to solve a small problem with non-latin chars, and bit cleaning and it can go into svn .. :-) |
| 23:49:00 | walla | as for ipod nano 3g there's no rockbox at the moment, i'm just wondering if someone tries to port it right now; does somebody know? |
| 23:49:22 | kugel | jott: ping |
| 23:49:33 | jott | kugel: pong |
| 23:50:03 | scorche|w | walla: i do not know of anyone actively working on it |
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| 23:50:19 | walla | k, thanks |
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| 23:51:42 | walla | what do you think would be the best player to use rockbox? |
| 23:52:27 | scorche|w | there is no "best"...it depends on hat you are looking for |
| 23:52:34 | scorche|w | s/hat.what |
| 23:52:49 | scorche|w | s/s/hat.what/s/hat/what |
| 23:52:52 | scorche|w | :) |
| 23:53:07 | walla | well, i think about stability and most working features |
| 23:53:28 | scorche|w | more specific? |
| 23:53:58 | walla | i read that older ipod-models can freeze after a time; thats not really stable in my eyes |
| 23:55:15 | walla | additionally i think that not all features rockbox offers is available with every player |
| 23:55:40 | scorche|w | well, you still havent said specifically what you are looking for in terms of features.. |
| 23:55:41 | Bagder | walla: there are just too many factors to consider, there is no clear "winner" |
| 23:56:22 | walla | ok, then i will put my nose in the wiki again ^^ |
| 23:56:43 | scorche|w | Bagder: hrm...there was something i needed to speak with you about...happen to know what that was? ;) |
| 23:57:04 | Bagder | scorche|w: you wanting to send me a cold beer a friday night? ;-P |
| 23:57:16 | scorche|w | naw...that couldnt have been it ;) |
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