| 00:00:13 | Keripo | Llorean: the link in the manual is the same as the one on the wiki. I was just wondering if there were daily svn builds but I guess they're stable enough that they don't get updated often. |
| 00:01:33 | Llorean | You should always use the links in the manual, even if a newer one is "available" unless a dev specifically tells you not to use the one in the manual because it hasn't been updated yet. |
| 00:02:01 | Llorean | The wiki can be edited by anyone, but the manual lists "the version we support", and in the case of the bootloaders, "the version that works right, as far as we know" |
| 00:02:21 | Keripo | Llorean: Understood and thanks for the clarification |
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| 00:07:14 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I've seen some strange things on H120 with greyscale and the buffered drawing that I didn't see earlier. It appears some pixels are duplicated to the left and others are skipped. You might see it when mpegplayer is playing and showing the OSD but not when mpegplayer is paused. I haven't tracked down the commit where it started. |
| 00:08:43 | amiconn | I've seen that effect too, but I thought it would be due to a font where not all digits are equally wide, in conjunction with an unsuitable drawmode for the text |
| 00:09:40 | jhMikeS | there seems to be a shift left of the whole display by 1 pixel actually...images and all |
| 00:10:18 | amiconn | Hmm, but the font I'm using doesn't have unequal digit widths... |
| 00:10:46 | jhMikeS | I'm using the system font. This effect wasn't there when I first coverted to use buffered mode. |
| 00:11:34 | amiconn | I had that with your very first version, but only on H180, not on mini |
| 00:11:46 | amiconn | (I'm using different fonts on those) |
| 00:13:03 | amiconn | Does 'pause' unboost? |
| 00:13:13 | * | amiconn has a suspicion |
| 00:13:22 | jhMikeS | video thread activity always boosts |
| 00:13:33 | jhMikeS | so pause, stop, etc. do unboost |
| 00:14:00 | amiconn | Hmmm.... so it's the old problem of the first transfer after switching to data mode is ignored |
| 00:14:32 | amiconn | 1 simple 'nop' after the gpio manipulation in lcd_grey_data() should fix that... but I'll do some tests first |
| 00:14:58 | amiconn | I had that effect in lcd_write data() as well when optimising too much |
| 00:16:28 | * | amiconn will check things on sim & mini first |
| 00:16:57 | jhMikeS | A screendump turns out perfectly normal |
| 00:19:03 | asn | Do I need all the pacman.<insertrandomnumberhere> files to play Pacbox? I found a Midway Pacman rom and it only contained pacman.6* |
| 00:19:30 | stripwax | seems selected_item is not enforced to be a multiple of selected_size! |
| 00:19:50 | amiconn | Why should it? |
| 00:20:57 | Llorean | asn: It's illegal to download pacman roms from the internet. |
| 00:21:22 | stripwax | amiconn - hm, because I think that would fix the bug? |
| 00:21:34 | Llorean | The files pacbox needed are listed. It needs them all, and they need to match exactly what is expected. |
| 00:21:42 | asn | Llorean: Thank you. |
| 00:21:44 | amiconn | It would make the list less flexible |
| 00:22:12 | stripwax | i.e. for the file properties, where every entry is spread onto two lines, why would it make sense to select items #1 and #2 as a pair (rather than #0 and #1, which are actually related) |
| 00:23:02 | stripwax | Ah, is the size of an entry a property of the individual row (rather than a property of the whole list)? |
| 00:23:04 | amiconn | Not for that list, but maybe for others |
| 00:23:53 | stripwax | it's impossible to select odd numbers on the first pass through the list, and impossible to select even numbers on the second pass through the list. For which lists will this behaviour make sense? |
| 00:24:03 | amiconn | I'm not 100% sure, but I can imagine situations where it may be useful |
| 00:24:03 | JdGordon|w | stripwax: yeah, the item count is the number or rows to display... |
| 00:24:46 | stripwax | yep, and the size of the selection isn't being used correctly when the list wraps |
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| 00:24:59 | stripwax | ^when the *user* wraps from one end of the list back to the ohter |
| 00:25:02 | stripwax | other |
| 00:25:21 | JdGordon|w | yeah, that sounds like a bug though |
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| 00:25:27 | stripwax | Well, I think so too .. |
| 00:25:37 | stripwax | But fixing it will make other lists less flexible? |
| 00:25:46 | JdGordon|w | I dont think so |
| 00:26:10 | stripwax | hm? amiconn just said .. |
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| 00:27:27 | * | JdGordon|w cant think of any situations where it would be useful... |
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| 00:27:57 | JdGordon|w | but it can still be fixed so you could manually select an odd item while scrolling will select the correct one |
| 00:28:13 | JdGordon|w | look at guilist_select_at_offset.. the bug should be there |
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| 00:28:41 | stripwax | it is, |
| 00:29:34 | stripwax | I think |
| 00:29:46 | JdGordon|w | most likely.. |
| 00:30:00 | JdGordon|w | iirc thats the only thing that can directly change the selection |
| 00:30:19 | stripwax | that or put_selection |
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| 00:30:37 | JdGordon|w | put_selectionon_Screen doesnt change the selection though... |
| 00:30:40 | JdGordon|w | just the start tiem |
| 00:30:42 | JdGordon|w | item |
| 00:30:54 | * | JdGordon|w going by memory here |
| 00:31:03 | * | stripwax goes and looks |
| 00:33:43 | J3TC- | Nice |
| 00:34:04 | J3TC- | Hold shutdown patch still works :3 |
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| 00:38:43 | Nico_P | GodEater: have you noticed that the skipping bug happens more on large dirs than small dirs? |
| 00:41:19 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Hrmmm, seems the main loop in lcd_grey_data() is now too fast at 124MHz :/ |
| 00:41:44 | amiconn | But I wonder why; lcd_write_data is faster - and yet it's not too fast... |
| 00:42:14 | amiconn | Maybe I need to better interleave the lcd writes with the memory accesses |
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| 00:43:52 | amiconn | It almost looks like some pixel columns are duplicated while others are dropped (at 124MHz) |
| 00:44:13 | jhMikeS | that what I think I'm seeing too |
| 00:45:45 | jhMikeS | It appears to be perhaps every four pixels |
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| 00:48:23 | * | stripwax gives up and goes to bed.. |
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| 00:53:20 | joshin | Nitro tha CiMien |
| 00:53:48 | * | pixelma discovers that she can now read the status line in greyscale mpegplayer with a widescreen video and is impressed :) |
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| 01:02:33 | amiconn | Re-ordering instructions does help... I need more registers though |
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| 01:02:52 | amiconn | Perhaps I only need one (right now I use 2) |
| 01:07:01 | Nico_P | amiconn, jhMikeS: is there a simple way I can underclock my gigabeat? |
| 01:07:44 | * | amiconn has no idea about the gigabeat hardware |
| 01:09:18 | Nico_P | markun? |
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| 01:10:59 | * | jhMikeS wanted to try overclocking his a bit |
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| 01:14:02 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: any idea how to? |
| 01:14:10 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: S or f? |
| 01:14:17 | Nico_P | F |
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| 01:14:29 | Nico_P | I'd like to try reproducing thr playback skipping issues |
| 01:15:23 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: it's quite involved to change the clocking since the peripherals must follow. the datasheet gives all the info. it's not like I memorized everything. :) |
| 01:16:45 | Nico_P | ah :( |
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| 01:36:58 | Kingsley90210 | Hello |
| 01:37:39 | Kingsley90210 | I just installed RockBox for my Sansa e200, and I was just wondering where to put my roms for rockboy =/ |
| 01:39:21 | krazykit | anywhere you want |
| 01:39:43 | Kingsley90210 | Does it come with the auto install, or what? |
| 01:40:13 | krazykit | all the plugins are included with the install. we cannot tell you how to find the ROMs, as they are copywrited material |
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| 01:42:22 | Kingsley90210 | Well, I know that. |
| 01:42:39 | Kingsley90210 | It's homebrew anyway |
| 01:42:58 | Kingsley90210 | So I just put it anywhere in the .rockbox directory> |
| 01:43:10 | Kingsley90210 | *? |
| 01:43:33 | krazykit | that isn't really the ideal place, since you can't browse there in "supported files" viewing mode. you CAN put it there, but anywhere else is fine too |
| 01:44:26 | Kingsley90210 | Alright, thanks for the help |
| 01:46:00 | Kingsley90210 | Oh, one more dumb question. Where is rockboy located from the root menu? |
| 01:46:56 | cool_walking_ | You can't run Rockbox directly, it is only a viewer. |
| 01:47:08 | cool_walking_ | *Rockboy |
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| 01:47:30 | cool_walking_ | You "play" a gameboy rom to start it. |
| 01:47:33 | Kingsley90210 | I fell like such a loser... |
| 01:47:46 | Kingsley90210 | Thank you. |
| 01:49:39 | asn | cool_walking_: help me understand that, please ^.^ Shouldn't there be a viewer binary that associates with the .gb or whatever files? |
| 01:50:20 | cool_walking_ | aah yes there is |
| 01:50:31 | cool_walking_ | Do you want the actual physical file? |
| 01:50:53 | asn | Well, I'm just wondering how it works. But yes, where is the actual physical file? |
| 01:50:56 | cool_walking_ | It's in /rocks/viewers/ |
| 01:51:03 | asn | Thanks |
| 01:51:14 | | Part pixelma |
| 01:52:24 | cool_walking_ | .rockbox/viewers.config tells rockbox which viewers to open which files with |
| 01:52:39 | asn | cool_walking_: and .rock files are rockbox binaries? |
| 01:52:46 | cool_walking_ | took me while to realise why "/viewers.config tells..." wasn't appearing |
| 01:53:00 | cool_walking_ | they're plugins |
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| 01:53:23 | asn | Now I understand. |
| 01:53:38 | asn | Thank you very much, cool_walking_ ! |
| 01:53:54 | cool_walking_ | You're welcome |
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| 02:02:22 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Try my latest commit :) |
| 02:06:11 | jhMikeS | ok |
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| 02:11:01 | jhMikeS | much better |
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| 02:23:20 | * | amiconn is still puzzled that the sdram is so incredibly slow on cf, unlike on pp |
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| 02:39:53 | cool_walking_ | I wrote a crappy connect 4 plugin. Right now it has crappy graphics that I drew in kolourpaint, so I wanted to steal (legally) these (http://games.kde.org/games/kfourinline/screenshots/originals/kwin401.jpg). Would it be too much of a waste of space to include that backgroud image of the entire gradient-ey board (there'd have to be one for each screen size)? Or is there a nicer way to get that awesome grad |
| 02:41:39 | Llorean | You could always just use a little simple math. |
| 02:41:55 | Llorean | You wouldn't get an identical gradient, but you could come up with something |
| 02:42:06 | Llorean | That being said, plugins aren't too concerned about space as long as it fits in the plugin buffer. |
| 02:42:23 | cool_walking_ | How big is that? |
| 02:42:44 | Llorean | 512k on every target with a color screen. |
| 02:42:50 | Llorean | But that includes the size of the plugin itself |
| 02:45:28 | cool_walking_ | How does the only-loaded-when-plugin-is-run thing work with /apps/plugins/bitmaps/ ? |
| 02:46:29 | Llorean | Bitmaps are actually compiled into the .rock file. |
| 02:46:33 | Llorean | So it still works the same. |
| 02:46:54 | cool_walking_ | ahh okay |
| 02:47:26 | cool_walking_ | How does it do that? |
| 02:48:00 | |404| | mmm...10 patches and it compiled smoothly |
| 02:48:02 | Llorean | The build system has some magic in it that I don't really understand. |
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| 02:48:12 | |404| | Too bad it doesn't have bmp resize |
| 02:48:17 | cool_walking_ | Well it's comforting to know that you don't understand it :) |
| 02:48:42 | Llorean | Well, I've never looked into it. I just know it's there, and as long as you declare them properly, the magic takes care of all the work. |
| 02:48:49 | Llorean | Look at, I dunno, probably Jewels, for a good example |
| 02:49:09 | crzyboyster | What has been going on with the WPSLIST settings? Has someone actually investigated them so that the default theme can actually be commited? |
| 02:49:27 | hcs | amiconn: I'm charging it, so I was only able to get at iPod_Control/Device, says boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) |
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| 02:51:17 | Llorean | crzyboyster: It's not the default theme yet. It's still Cabbie 2.0 until it's committed and everything is changed. |
| 02:52:02 | hcs | amiconn: and rockbox says LCD type: 0, so what can I do? |
| 02:52:52 | crzyboyster | I meant to say that. So has anyone actually investigated the WPSLIST settings? |
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| 02:56:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Evening, boys! |
| 02:57:32 | crzyboyster | Lambda: Hey! |
| 02:57:51 | crzyboyster | rasher: What has been going on with the rockbox-themes.org site? |
| 02:58:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | Who's around that has seen some TMS320-based players? |
| 02:58:30 | * | scorche wonders why he is asking rasher |
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| 03:24:48 | saratoga | whats with the D2 commit? who is "rob" and why doesn't he have a full name |
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| 04:19:45 | Mouser_X | How do I "run" rockboxdev.sh? |
| 04:20:07 | Mouser_X | I'm still attempting to get a build environment going for building Rockbox. |
| 04:20:12 | cool_walking_ | just type the path to it |
| 04:20:20 | hcs | Mouser_X: sh rockboxdev.sh or ./rockboxdev.sh |
| 04:20:20 | Mouser_X | I did. |
| 04:20:30 | cool_walking_ | if it's in the current directory, you have to prefix it with "./", like ./rockboxdev.sh |
| 04:20:38 | Mouser_X | Ah, that'd be it. |
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| 04:22:07 | Mouser_X | Should I run it from within "rockbox/tools" or should I move it out to "../rockbox/tools" ? |
| 04:22:22 | Mouser_X | Also, how do I give it the necessary permissions? |
| 04:22:52 | cool_walking_ | chmod +x /path/to/rockboxdev.sh |
| 04:23:25 | cool_walking_ | I don't think it matters where you run it from, but ran it from the trunk |
| 04:23:53 | cool_walking_ | or did i? |
| 04:23:56 | cool_walking_ | I can't remember... |
| 04:24:05 | cool_walking_ | Just do whatever the wiki says |
| 04:24:58 | krazykit | Mouser_X, it doesn't matter where you run it from. |
| 04:26:05 | Mouser_X | krazykit: Thanks. I'm asking here, because I've never seen a wiki page for setting it up in Linux (if there is one, I'd be happy to read from it). |
| 04:26:43 | krazykit | Mouser_X, it's essentially the same as the install from cygwin |
| 04:27:09 | Mouser_X | With cygwin, you have to do a bunch of install stuff, and select packages, and etc. |
| 04:27:30 | Mouser_X | I tried to follow that, but I couldn't find the packages etc. |
| 04:27:43 | krazykit | well, it depends on what distro you're using |
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| 04:28:00 | Mouser_X | xubuntu |
| 04:28:24 | krazykit | have you installed build-essential ? |
| 04:29:24 | Mouser_X | Yes. |
| 04:29:38 | Mouser_X | safteydan told me to do that last night. |
| 04:30:08 | krazykit | so you should be able to simply run the script and add it to your $PATH and be done with it |
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| 04:30:41 | cool_walking_ | I think all you have to do on Linux is just check out SVN, run rockboxdev.sh, and then add the cross-compilers to your path. |
| 04:31:50 | Mouser_X | I've done "chmod +x rockbox.sh" and it's still not working (I copied it to my "home" or "root" or whatever that top directory is). Also, I don't know how to add stuff to my $PATH. |
| 04:32:25 | krazykit | what happens when you try to run the script? |
| 04:33:39 | Mouser_X | "WARNING: this script is set to install in /usr/local but has no" |
| 04:33:59 | krazykit | try running it with sudo |
| 04:34:05 | cool_walking_ | okay, do "sudo ./rockboxdev.sh" |
| 04:34:09 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
| 04:34:15 | cool_walking_ | I'm just going to stop talking |
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| 04:35:42 | Mouser_X | It's working now. I did "a" for arm. I've got a Gigabeat and a Sansa, so that should be all I need, right? |
| 04:36:22 | countrymonkey | I heard that rockbox merchandise exists. Is this true? |
| 04:36:34 | JETC- | ;o |
| 04:36:38 | JETC- | That'd rock. |
| 04:36:40 | cool_walking_ | I don't remember which targets have which processor, but if rockboxdev.sh told you that, then it's true |
| 04:37:03 | krazykit | Mouser_X, yes, that's all you need |
| 04:38:03 | krazykit | Mouser_X, if you want to build simulators, you'll need libsdl1.2-dev |
| 04:38:50 | Mouser_X | Gigabeat wasn't in the list, that's why I was asking. I knew it was ARM, but I wanted to be sure. Where would I get libsdl1.2-dev? |
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| 04:40:50 | cool_walking_ | apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev |
| 04:40:59 | cool_walking_ | err.. sudo |
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| 04:42:47 | countrymonkey | Is it true that rb merchandise exists? If so, where do I get it? |
| 04:43:05 | krazykit | countrymonkey, you don't need to repeat yourself |
| 04:43:31 | Mouser_X | Have you attempted a Google search for "Rockbox Merchandise" ? If not, it can't hurt. |
| 04:43:32 | countrymonkey | sorry! |
| 04:43:52 | krazykit | countrymonkey, consider searching the forums (or reading the Announcements forum) |
| 04:44:03 | cool_walking_ | I saw some photos of devs wearing t-shirts |
| 04:44:15 | cool_walking_ | maybe they had them made up especially for the meetup, though. |
| 04:44:22 | Mouser_X | Those are very often event specific. |
| 04:45:17 | countrymonkey | I knew I wasn't dreaming! |
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| 04:47:10 | countrymonkey | Although it is stated in the topic it is just a trial period sort of thing. Is it still going on? |
| 04:47:28 | krazykit | follow the link. if you can still buy stuff, it's still going on. |
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| 04:55:08 | countrymonkey | Now we have them, I don't see the benifites of target-specific voices unless they are all on the dev side of things. |
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| 05:16:56 | Llorean | countrymonkey: The benefit is that they're on average much smaller than a universal voice file. How can you not see that as a benefit? |
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| 05:55:55 | ddalton | Bagder: around? |
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| 06:16:38 | ddalton | JdGordon: around? |
| 06:16:56 | JdGordon | no |
| 06:17:06 | ddalton | lol |
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| 06:17:42 | ddalton | um well I just have a quick question. If I say I will do a port and get the docs for the cpu off someone do I then need to do the port? |
| 06:18:00 | ddalton | some things have happened in my life and I have very little time to code on rb... |
| 06:18:10 | soap | If you don't, Rockbox will hire some goons and track you down and break your knees. |
| 06:19:00 | ddalton | no I mean like will the devs start getting annoyed at me since I have had other things come up stopping me from been able to do the port? |
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| 06:20:10 | JdGordon | ddalton: we could never get annoyed at you... we are too nice |
| 06:23:39 | ddalton | ok well I just didn't want to annoy anyone. especially bagder since he gave me the docs and aliask because he was helping me. and I said I would do it. but now I think about it is almost imposible with out sight and I assume a port takes a lot of time? |
| 06:24:01 | ddalton | and sadly I don't have that time. But I would still help out with if I could... |
| 06:34:14 | |404| | Hrmm...anyone familiar with progressbar slider patch? |
| 06:35:42 | JdGordon | ddalton: I was joking by the way... when I come back i will arrange a hitman to get you!!! |
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| 06:44:58 | ddalton | jdgordon: lol |
| 06:45:52 | JdGordon | no joke... im serious! |
| 06:46:19 | ddalton | yep sure. how ya going to find me? if you found out my address from don't say it |
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| 06:48:43 | ddalton | JdGordon: you want me to do the port? |
| 06:50:04 | ddalton | JdGordon: talk to me! |
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| 07:00:04 | ddalton | hey JdGordon: still here? |
| 07:00:56 | ddalton | anyone here good with the wps context menu? |
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| 07:27:37 | Mouser_X | What path would I need to add for the arm-elf GCC stuff? |
| 07:27:49 | Mouser_X | I used the rockboxdev.sh shell script to install it. |
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| 07:28:26 | scorche | Mouser_X: doesnt it say after rockboxdev.sh ends? |
| 07:29:00 | Mouser_X | Yes it does, but when I used nano to open the file, it cleared the terminal. I wasn't expecting that... |
| 07:29:19 | cool_walking_ | it was /usr/local/arm-something/bin/ |
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| 07:30:36 | Mouser_X | "/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" ? |
| 07:30:45 | cool_walking_ | yeah |
| 07:30:55 | Mouser_X | (I can see that all of those exist, at least.) |
| 07:31:55 | cool_walking_ | all of those? |
| 07:32:10 | cool_walking_ | did you post multiple paths and your internet is weird again? |
| 07:32:12 | Mouser_X | Those directories, in that order. |
| 07:32:21 | cool_walking_ | I only see you posting "/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" |
| 07:32:23 | ddalton | Mouser_X: same as the one in step for of the cygwin stuff... |
| 07:32:25 | ddalton | one moment. |
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| 07:34:23 | ddalton | here is my path if you would call it a path. just add the arm stuff to the end of your's forget the other stuff. |
| 07:34:26 | ddalton | |
| 07:34:36 | ddalton | wait that didn't work! |
| 07:34:41 | ddalton | PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/arm-elf\/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/bin:/bin/speakup" |
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| 07:35:14 | cool_walking_ | Yeah but Mouser_X only installed the arm compiler. |
| 07:35:50 | ddalton | yes thats why I said to just add the arm stuff. I would assume he wouldn't have /bin/speakup dir too. :-) |
| 07:36:22 | ddalton | so before the last quote you add a : |
| 07:36:55 | ddalton | then you add straight after the : |
| 07:38:45 | ddalton | ok I think its :/usr/local/arm-elf/bin |
| 07:39:01 | ddalton | did that work? |
| 07:40:34 | Mouser_X | I was busy. It looks right, I'll add it, but I need to know what to put to add it... Isn't it "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/" ? |
| 07:40:45 | cool_walking_ | no |
| 07:40:55 | cool_walking_ | just PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/ |
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| 07:41:17 | Mouser_X | Ah. And put that anywhere in the .bashrc file? |
| 07:41:26 | ddalton | well yes that could work... |
| 07:41:34 | cool_walking_ | yep, anywhere not inside a conditional |
| 07:41:34 | ddalton | but edit /etc/profile |
| 07:41:43 | ddalton | what distrobution? |
| 07:42:03 | Mouser_X | xubuntu. I couldn't find a "/etc/profile" |
| 07:42:20 | ddalton | after the else in this if statement. |
| 07:42:21 | ddalton | if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then |
| 07:42:41 | cool_walking_ | apparently ( http://joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html ) it's .bash_profile you want, not .bashrc |
| 07:43:08 | ddalton | ok hang on |
| 07:43:25 | Mouser_X | cool_walking_: That file doesn't exist. |
| 07:43:28 | ddalton | $cat /etc/profile |
| 07:43:32 | cool_walking_ | If you edit /etc/profile instead, it'll be system-wide, instead of just for your user. |
| 07:43:33 | Mouser_X | (I tried already) |
| 07:43:56 | ddalton | please tell me output of that command with out the "$" |
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| 07:44:41 | cool_walking_ | accidentally closed the tab... |
| 07:44:46 | * | ddalton Starts to wonder where ubuntu stores its paths. His glad his on debian |
| 07:45:14 | ddalton | ok wait |
| 07:45:22 | Mouser_X | Text. Apparently it does exist, but I didn't see it when I looked for it... |
| 07:45:23 | cool_walking_ | if you edit /etc/profile instead of .bash_profile, it'll be system-wide instead of just for your user |
| 07:45:47 | cool_walking_ | oh yeah... any file/folder starting with a dot (.) is hidden by default in Unix |
| 07:46:09 | Mouser_X | Yes, I know. "/etc/profile" has no "." in it. |
| 07:46:30 | cool_walking_ | I accidentally closed the tab so wasn't sure what file we were talking about |
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| 07:46:41 | ddalton | I have some recovery bash scripts I wrote in /bin/speakup change /bin/speakup to the location of arm-elf. I told you arm-elf's location before. add the following line in .bashrc: |
| 07:46:45 | ddalton | export PATH=$PATH:/bin/speakup |
| 07:47:02 | cool_walking_ | you don't need the "export" in there |
| 07:47:21 | cool_walking_ | I don't think it'll do any harm, but you don't need it. |
| 07:47:58 | ddalton | it works for me so I would do what I said. |
| 07:48:12 | ddalton | and your not using x are you? |
| 07:48:38 | cool_walking_ | "export" just means the variable will be available in any sub-processes you open |
| 07:48:50 | cool_walking_ | me? |
| 07:48:56 | cool_walking_ | I'm on Windows right now |
| 07:49:28 | ddalton | no mouser_x |
| 07:49:34 | ddalton | or however you spell it. sorry. |
| 07:49:48 | ddalton | Mouser_X |
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| 07:50:40 | cool_walking_ | Mouser_X: after changing the file, you'll have to close and open the shell for it to take effect. |
| 07:52:08 | ddalton | a /home/user_name/.bashrc won't work will it? |
| 07:52:17 | Mouser_X | So, add it before the "fi" ? What indentation should I use? As in, does it matter how far it goes in? |
| 07:52:55 | Mouser_X | (It'd have to be a newline, I assume, thus putting that "fi" below it, and the else statement above it.) |
| 07:52:59 | ddalton | no indentation and I put mine at the top of the file. |
| 07:53:19 | Mouser_X | Wasn't it you that said to put it after that else statement? |
| 07:53:44 | ddalton | no that was in /etc/profile |
| 07:54:08 | Mouser_X | That's what I'm looking in. |
| 07:54:30 | Mouser_X | (I found it. I thought it was a directory, but I was mistaken) |
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| 07:54:36 | ddalton | forget what I said before. You just need to add a certain dir but now just add the line I said. |
| 07:54:47 | ddalton | at the top of /home/your_user_name/.bashrc |
| 07:55:09 | Mouser_X | If I can make it global, I don't see any reason not to. |
| 07:55:23 | cool_walking_ | no don't put it in .bashrc :) |
| 07:55:43 | cool_walking_ | it's .bash_profile or /etc/profile |
| 07:56:03 | Mouser_X | I'm in /etc/profile right now. Where would I add it in there? |
| 07:56:03 | ddalton | no its .bashrc I think |
| 07:56:28 | ddalton | .bash_profile is for what should run when you log in... |
| 07:56:35 | Mouser_X | ddalton: That file will only make it user-specific. At least, it looks that way to me. |
| 07:56:47 | ddalton | exactly. |
| 07:56:59 | cool_walking_ | both .bash_profile and .bashrc are user-specific |
| 07:57:05 | ddalton | unless you find your /etc/profile file |
| 07:57:17 | ddalton | did you try catting it? |
| 07:57:23 | ddalton | too be sure? |
| 07:57:30 | Mouser_X | Which I did, and I said I did, and I said that's where I'm at right now. |
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| 07:57:54 | Mouser_X | (That's at least 3 instances where I said what file I was attempting to edit.) |
| 07:58:17 | Mouser_X | To repeat: I'm in etc/profile right now. |
| 07:58:25 | ddalton | ok so what file are you in? |
| 07:58:32 | cool_walking_ | lol what? |
| 07:58:33 | Mouser_X | (Again, I thought it was a directory, and I was mistaken.) |
| 07:58:49 | ddalton | oh no its a text file. |
| 07:58:50 | Mouser_X | profile is a file, not a directory. |
| 07:58:55 | Mouser_X | It has no extension. |
| 07:58:59 | cool_walking_ | correct, it's a file |
| 07:59:11 | cool_walking_ | correct also. Unix text files often have no extension |
| 07:59:31 | Mouser_X | So, where in that file do I add ":/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" ? |
| 07:59:43 | ddalton | see above 100 lines |
| 07:59:53 | ddalton | or so |
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| 08:00:33 | Mouser_X | So, to ask again, I put it above the "fi" and below the else statement, on a new line? What indentation do I use? |
| 08:00:35 | cool_walking_ | add "PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" (without the quotes) to /etc/profile if you want it to be system-wide, or ~/.bash_profile if you want it only for your user. |
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| 08:01:05 | cool_walking_ | don't put it above "fi" |
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| 08:01:21 | cool_walking_ | just put it as the very last line |
| 08:01:32 | ddalton | wait. |
| 08:01:37 | Mouser_X | Oh, so below the last "fi" then? |
| 08:01:57 | cool_walking_ | It doesn't matter what's already there, just add it to the end |
| 08:02:04 | ddalton | after the else in this if |
| 08:02:05 | ddalton | if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then |
| 08:02:16 | cool_walking_ | no |
| 08:02:16 | ddalton | add :arm_path |
| 08:02:20 | cool_walking_ | don't listen to him |
| 08:02:27 | cool_walking_ | what are you doing, ddalton? |
| 08:02:31 | Mouser_X | If it works for cool_walking_, I'll assume it will work for me. It makes it easier. |
| 08:02:32 | ddalton | before the " of the line between fi and the else. |
| 08:02:43 | ddalton | so the path= line |
| 08:03:00 | ddalton | well this worked for me: |
| 08:03:32 | ddalton | add :armpath before the last " on the line path= which is between else and fi. How much more simpley can I say this? |
| 08:03:46 | cool_walking_ | aah okay. He's just trying to get you to edit an _existing_ line that looks like "PATH=/usr/bin:.....". But that may not work if it is inside an "if" block. |
| 08:04:11 | Mouser_X | It wouldn't be inside the if block, if I added after that part. |
| 08:04:15 | ddalton | arm_path is what I said above the full path to arm |
| 08:04:47 | Mouser_X | I'll just put it at the end, below the last "fi" and above the "umask 022" |
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| 08:04:54 | ddalton | yes that is what your meant to do... |
| 08:05:13 | Mouser_X | That's what I was asking... |
| 08:05:19 | ddalton | the line before "fi" in this block: |
| 08:05:26 | ddalton | if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X\11:/bin/speakup" |
| 08:05:29 | ddalton | else PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/arm-elf\/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/bin:/bin/speakup" |
| 08:05:30 | Mouser_X | The way I understood your answer confused me. |
| 08:05:33 | ddalton | fi |
| 08:05:40 | cool_walking_ | I don't think IRC is well-suited to simple things like this |
| 08:05:58 | * | Mouser_X has apparently spammed #rockbox. :( |
| 08:06:15 | ddalton | hey do you know about paths? |
| 08:06:51 | cool_walking_ | Who? |
| 08:06:56 | ddalton | Mouser_X: do you know how this path var works? |
| 08:07:19 | cool_walking_ | I don't think we should even attempt to explain that, ddalton, after that mess |
| 08:08:20 | ddalton | Mouser_X: How familiar are you with gnu/linux? and are you using a gui? |
| 08:08:36 | ddalton | I am just trying to work out where you are getting confused. |
| 08:08:57 | cool_walking_ | See Examples of UNIX environment variables"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable |
| 08:09:08 | cool_walking_ | AAAAGH. half-baked comment |
| 08:09:26 | cool_walking_ | See the "Examples of UNIX environment variables" section at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable |
| 08:09:46 | ddalton | well ok I need to go but see the cygwin setup guide and look at how they do the paths there. |
| 08:10:19 | ddalton | exactly same process in linux except on the line between else and fi which starts with "path" |
| 08:11:28 | ddalton | do this: |
| 08:11:38 | ddalton | echo $PATH so you see what happens... |
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| 08:12:35 | Mouser_X | Well, I got the profile file edited. Hopefully I never have to go through that again. |
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| 08:37:18 | Mouser_X | And, Rockbox is now building. Sorry again for the excess of commentary on my PATH situation. |
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| 08:39:50 | RexDart | Hello ladies! |
| 08:40:01 | cool_walking_ | Hello |
| 08:40:09 | cool_walking_ | damn.. I'm a lady now aren't I |
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| 08:40:57 | nanok | cool_walking_: self proclaimed, even |
| 08:41:04 | nanok | :) |
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| 08:41:23 | RexDart | What's better to make a rockbox theme of....beos or os9 |
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| 08:41:51 | cool_walking_ | BeOS? |
| 08:42:13 | GodEater | Plan9 |
| 08:42:17 | cool_walking_ | All yellowy |
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| 08:43:49 | Mouser_X | I want to make a WPS based on the Back to the Future series... |
| 08:43:59 | Mouser_X | Specifically, the DeLorean. |
| 08:44:11 | Mouser_X | (The train would be cool as well.) |
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| 08:53:24 | RexDart | plan9's a butt |
| 08:53:39 | cool_walking_ | It's got some pretty good concepts |
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| 08:53:57 | cool_walking_ | like /proc |
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| 08:55:28 | RexDart | what doesn't have /proc |
| 08:55:49 | cool_walking_ | where do you think it came from? |
| 08:55:49 | RexDart | and why isn't opera's irc client scrolling down with text as it appears |
| 08:56:58 | GodEater | why ask us ? |
| 08:58:06 | cool_walking_ | Isn't this #opera? |
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| 09:15:04 | egckiller | hey |
| 09:15:49 | egckiller | I have a problem getting the software installed onto my ipod 80gb |
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| 09:16:07 | egckiller | hey can you help me |
| 09:16:20 | egckiller | I am trying to install the bootloader |
| 09:16:30 | egckiller | and it's saying that no ipod was found |
| 09:16:34 | GodEater | egckiller: which model ipod do you have ? |
| 09:16:52 | egckiller | the Ipod classic 80gb |
| 09:17:06 | egckiller | 1.0.3 or something like that |
| 09:17:06 | GodEater | it states quite clearly on the rockbox home page that the classic is not supported |
| 09:17:18 | egckiller | damn it |
| 09:17:53 | egckiller | what do I do then is there no program for the classic that lets me customize my ipod? |
| 09:17:59 | Mouser_X | Nope. |
| 09:18:10 | egckiller | wtf man that sucks |
| 09:18:13 | egckiller | why not? |
| 09:18:17 | GodEater | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14871.0 |
| 09:18:19 | GodEater | read that |
| 09:18:19 | Mouser_X | You can see if anyone will trade it for an older iPod, or trade it for a Gigabeat F60. |
| 09:18:43 | * | Mouser_X suggests the Gigabeat route. |
| 09:18:44 | egckiller | hmm I just bought it today |
| 09:18:56 | * | GodEater suggests taking it back then |
| 09:19:03 | Mouser_X | Or that. |
| 09:19:06 | GodEater | assuming running rockbox is THAT important to you |
| 09:19:07 | egckiller | I wonder if I can take it back and get me a touchscreen or something |
| 09:19:30 | egckiller | no it's really not lol |
| 09:19:43 | egckiller | but I wanted to be able to use my own theme's |
| 09:20:23 | egckiller | I knew I should have paid the extra 50 bucks for the touchscreen |
| 09:20:31 | GodEater | that's themeable is it ? |
| 09:20:36 | egckiller | at least that one has wireless internet access |
| 09:20:50 | egckiller | no I don't think so |
| 09:21:04 | advcomp2019 | egckiller, if you can find an e200v1 or c200v1 series, you could use rockbox |
| 09:21:14 | egckiller | If I can't get a themable one I may as well be able to at least connect to the internet lol |
| 09:21:25 | egckiller | aahh |
| 09:21:26 | egckiller | ok |
| 09:21:34 | egckiller | maybe I can find one on ebay |
| 09:21:45 | GodEater | conversation is now veering wildly offtopic... |
| 09:21:47 | egckiller | I have to go back up that way tommorrow anyway |
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| 09:22:23 | egckiller | lol ok I'm out I have an appointment tommorrow |
| 09:22:28 | egckiller | thanks for the help |
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| 09:29:26 | egckiller | that's some real bs you know it why the fuck do compeny's like apple and sony fix it so that people can't reverse engineer their products after all I believe that the person that's spending over 200$ on something should have complete control over it |
| 09:29:55 | GodEater | again, why ask us? |
| 09:30:13 | egckiller | that would be like telling me I can no longer download shit on my computer |
| 09:30:17 | cool_walking_ | I think it's that Apple have to sign an NDA with the hardware company |
| 09:30:31 | cool_walking_ | I would guess |
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| 09:30:56 | egckiller | oh lol we'll it's bs either way |
| 09:31:16 | egckiller | I'm taking it back tommorrow |
| 09:31:56 | cool_walking_ | yeah, best policy is to just not buy from those companies that aren't consumer-friendly |
| 09:32:03 | egckiller | they can keep their overpriced product and their NDA |
| 09:32:16 | cool_walking_ | The NDA was just speculation on my part |
| 09:32:19 | egckiller | yeah I hope they go bankrupt |
| 09:32:28 | amiconn | hcs: Not much right now, unless you want to experiment with the lcd bridge 2 settings your self (testing speed and whether gfx output works with or without glicthes) |
| 09:32:28 | egckiller | lol I know |
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| 09:42:42 | GodEater | Did anybody else know that CNET provide as permanent "Download Rockbox" link to our current builds page ? |
| 09:43:43 | cool_walking_ | No.. but I don't I've been there in like 5 years except when they had a Rockbox review |
| 09:44:19 | GodEater | I'm personally inclined to ask them to remove it |
| 09:48:31 | petur | why? |
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| 09:50:54 | GodEater | because they don't link to the manual... |
| 09:51:11 | petur | pffff |
| 09:51:43 | linuxstb | The current build page links to the manual though... |
| 09:52:36 | petur | I'd rather have them review it again because I'm sure the installer got better. And they should change the wording of "most iPods, iRivers, and Archoses" |
| 09:52:41 | * | GodEater will hand over the thread from the user who downloaded via CNET to petur and linuxstb then |
| 09:54:12 | petur | GodEater: maybe have them include the link for donations? |
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| 10:21:00 | * | homielowe I'm attempting to compile a sim for the iPod Touch, Is there anyway I can make it not complain about not having a bmp for the sim? (compiled eventually to run under osx on ipod touch) |
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| 10:31:43 | homielowe | nm I just created a empy bmp file |
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| 10:40:11 | linuxstb | homielowe: That's a good a way as any... |
| 10:40:30 | homielowe | :) |
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| 11:32:59 | GodEater | Anyone know if CE-ATA / ZIF are the same thing or not ? |
| 11:35:43 | petur | I think they are not the same |
| 11:36:27 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement#1_8_Drive_Comparison |
| 11:36:49 | petur | ZIF = 40 pins, CE-ATA = 18 ins serial |
| 11:36:53 | petur | +p |
| 11:37:35 | GodEater | curious. In the teardowns of 5.5G and 6G ipods that I've seen, the drive slot looks identical |
| 11:37:50 | amiconn | They are very different. ZIF is normal parallel ata. CE-ATA is serial (MMC protocol) |
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| 11:39:22 | GodEater | http://www.ifixit.com/Parts/stream/4/thumb/6-1.jpg |
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| 11:42:44 | GodEater | ah - I take it back |
| 11:42:57 | GodEater | the drive interface in the 80GB classic is still ZIF |
| 11:43:04 | GodEater | no wonder I was confused |
| 11:46:39 | homielowe | Is there a way to comment out "viewers" (trying to test compile for a new sim build )? |
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| 11:56:53 | GodEater | pictures of what a CE-ATA connector look like are thin on the ground |
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| 12:23:41 | linuxstb | Hmm, so the disk in the 80GB Classic could be moved to a 30GB 5/5.5G ? |
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| 12:36:52 | GodEater | linuxstb: that would be appear to be the case yes |
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| 13:43:41 | Nico_P | GodEater: here? |
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| 13:43:52 | GodEater | yep |
| 13:44:16 | Nico_P | have you noticed a link between the playback skipping and the number of files in the dir? |
| 13:44:50 | Nico_P | someone in thE forums said they might be related |
| 13:44:59 | GodEater | not really no |
| 13:45:09 | GodEater | most of my directories contain a very similar number of files |
| 13:45:16 | GodEater | only on the order of 15-20 |
| 13:45:56 | Nico_P | any chance that you could test on a dir with a large number of files? |
| 13:46:24 | preglow | anyone know how gigabeat s is progressing? i can't recall having seen any commits |
| 13:46:26 | GodEater | what will that tell you ? |
| 13:47:03 | Nico_P | GodEater: it could tell me that it's the playback thread that isn't yielding enough |
| 13:47:34 | Nico_P | preglow: ptw419 emailed freescale and got some example code |
| 13:47:40 | GodEater | Nico_P: I'm not sure I follow - I already *get* the issue with very few files |
| 13:47:44 | Nico_P | but I don't think there was any progress lately |
| 13:47:56 | GodEater | surely increasing the number isn't going to make the issue better ? |
| 13:48:32 | preglow | Nico_P: why do they need example code? |
| 13:48:46 | preglow | glitchy docs? |
| 13:49:05 | GodEater | preglow: we can't get the interuppts working on it |
| 13:49:34 | Nico_P | GodEater: maybe the number isn't a factor at all, it might be interesting to know whether it is |
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| 13:50:11 | GodEater | Nico_P: ok - I'll have a look for something with more titles in it |
| 13:50:16 | Nico_P | preglow: he mainly wanted to know whether he was missing something obvious, and the guy from freescale added code to his answer |
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| 13:50:28 | Nico_P | GodEater: thanks :) |
| 13:51:14 | Nico_P | also if the number is a factor and the skipping is more obvious with more files, we'll have found a reliable test case |
| 13:51:21 | GodEater | would a big playlist help ? |
| 13:51:28 | GodEater | or do the files HAVE to be in the same directory ? |
| 13:51:41 | Nico_P | a big playlist would probably do the trick |
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| 13:52:03 | * | GodEater loads root.m3u |
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| 13:52:11 | Nico_P | I guess the guy mentioned the dir because he simply played the first file in the dir |
| 13:52:28 | GodEater | christ |
| 13:52:35 | GodEater | that's frozen *everything* |
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| 13:53:01 | GodEater | disk is still spinning, backlight responds to key presses |
| 13:53:05 | GodEater | but other than that, bugger all |
| 13:53:58 | GodEater | hmm |
| 13:54:04 | GodEater | come to think of it, this root.m3u is out of date |
| 13:55:20 | Llorean | Still, Rockbox should safely handle nonexistent files in a playlist. It used to. |
| 13:56:01 | Bagder | indeed |
| 13:56:04 | Bagder | it should just skip them |
| 13:56:25 | GodEater | yes, I just think that ALL the files in it don't exist now |
| 13:56:29 | GodEater | I did a major reorganise |
| 13:56:37 | GodEater | so it's taking a long time to skip them all |
| 13:56:39 | LinusN | that's a special case it used to handle |
| 13:56:53 | LinusN | i.e when none of the files are present |
| 13:56:56 | Bagder | right, a large list with all non-existing files can take a while |
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| 14:01:01 | GodEater | It has 5440 files in the list |
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| 14:07:46 | homielowe | from -community "I thought ptw419 got interrupts working ? http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20080110#02:01:45 " |
| 14:08:16 | * | Nico_P is reading the log and hardly believing it :) |
| 14:10:54 | Nico_P | I wonder why he didn't commit the code |
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| 14:20:17 | GodEater | sorry chaps - my connection wondered off on it's own |
| 14:20:37 | GodEater | Nico_P: I've got a 76 entry playlist currently. This started playback perfectly, no issues at all. |
| 14:20:44 | GodEater | I'm about to try again with my root.m3u |
| 14:20:48 | Nico_P | ok |
| 14:21:11 | GodEater | ...which has also started back without a hitch |
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| 14:21:28 | GodEater | so perhaps it's the process of adding the files to the playlist which is fighting with playback ? |
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| 14:21:43 | LinusN | dynamic playlists are very different |
| 14:21:57 | LinusN | so you might want to try that |
| 14:22:07 | LinusN | play a directory and then queue a file |
| 14:22:18 | GodEater | I need a big directory then |
| 14:22:22 | GodEater | which I currently don't have |
| 14:23:36 | * | GodEater endeavours to create such a directory |
| 14:23:41 | GodEater | how many files do you want in it Nico_P ? |
| 14:24:14 | Nico_P | GodEater: no idea... several hundred if possible |
| 14:24:49 | Nico_P | but start small, maybe the problem will start showing with "few" files |
| 14:24:59 | GodEater | well it currently shows with 15-20 |
| 14:25:36 | Nico_P | yeah, I meant consistently |
| 14:27:04 | preglow | Nico_P: well, did the code make us any smarter? |
| 14:28:02 | Nico_P | preglow: apparently it did, as ptw reported he got interrupts to work, as homielowe pointed out |
| 14:28:31 | Nico_P | I mailed him to try to know a bit more |
| 14:28:42 | GodEater | and to find out why he didn't commit it presumably |
| 14:28:55 | Nico_P | that too |
| 14:30:01 | GodEater | 30 file directory started ok |
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| 14:36:19 | GodEater | Nico_P: I tried it with a 70 file directory |
| 14:36:22 | GodEater | which seemed to work ok |
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| 14:36:40 | GodEater | but since that was a test directory, I'd created it directly off the roor |
| 14:36:42 | GodEater | *root |
| 14:36:58 | GodEater | if I move it way way way down my folder hierarchy, I get the glitchy startup of playback |
| 14:37:21 | Nico_P | that's strange |
| 14:37:55 | * | GodEater moves it back, and confirms it starts up fine |
| 14:38:45 | GodEater | so if it is located at /Testing - then it's fine - but if I move it to /Music/Various Artists/Some folder/Some sub folder/ - then playback is glitchy on startup |
| 14:39:59 | * | GodEater double checks again |
| 14:40:05 | GodEater | yep - compeltely repeatable |
| 14:40:54 | GodEater | if badly spelt :) |
| 14:40:56 | Nico_P | it's not exactly the clue I was expecting, but at least it's something :) |
| 14:41:36 | GodEater | what players do you have to try it on? |
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| 14:42:43 | Nico_P | only the gigabeat :/ |
| 14:43:22 | GodEater | it's got to be worth a try on that |
| 14:43:26 | GodEater | with a deep directory tree |
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| 14:44:51 | * | Nico_P tries |
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| 14:48:36 | Nico_P | I can't get it to skip |
| 14:49:23 | JETC- | Nico_P: Are you still familiar with the progressbar slider patch? |
| 14:49:38 | Nico_P | JETC-: not really, why? |
| 14:49:59 | GodEater | any other ipod owners care to test that theory ? |
| 14:50:59 | Nico_P | GodEater: someone said it started on r15444, and that change only affected ipods |
| 14:51:22 | Nico_P | so maybe that's why I can't repro, but people also reported glitches on the H120 |
| 14:51:48 | JETC- | Well, I'm trying to apply the patch and of course, it won't. The problem seems to be a problem with initializing the NORMAL variable?(not sure what to call it) |
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| 14:52:33 | JETC- | Anyway, in the progressbar patch, I see the NORMAL variable being used there as well and I just renamed it to something else and it seems to be compiling now. |
| 14:52:48 | JETC- | I just want to make sure if doing so wouldn't change the functionality of the patch |
| 14:54:46 | JETC- | http://pastebin.com/d2da14abf |
| 14:54:48 | Nico_P | JETC-: I have no idea |
| 14:55:08 | Nico_P | NORMAL is probably a #define |
| 14:55:35 | JETC- | Yeah but it seems to be conflicting with something now :3 |
| 14:55:42 | JETC- | Oh well, we'll see |
| 14:55:47 | Nico_P | GodEater: it might be worth checking that the problem really did start with r15444 |
| 14:55:49 | JETC- | Just have to test it after it compiles |
| 14:55:57 | * | Nico_P has to go |
| 14:57:34 | JETC- | K, later |
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| 15:15:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah, I see a betting pool for new ports during the new year is on! :) |
| 15:19:16 | Llorean | Well, I think a few ports are pretty much given. |
| 15:20:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Yes, since we have the m:robe 100 and m:robe 500i, and the Cowon D2 looking good and about ready to go soon once the guys working on them polish them up. |
| 15:21:21 | krazykit | the d2 needs more than polish i think. |
| 15:21:43 | Llorean | I expect the D2, m:robe 100, and Gigabeat S to happen. |
| 15:22:06 | Llorean | The 500i may end up one of the "interesting, but not interesting enough to sustain focus" targets, I'm not sure. |
| 15:22:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | krazykit: But he's doing a great job on it, so I give kudos to him for his hard work. :) |
| 15:22:44 | Llorean | My "not as likely" prediction for the year is the v2 Sandisks. I think that there's just enough information around to make those likely if people will try to run with 'em |
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| 15:23:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: My prediction is more for the Sansa View, since the hardware is close to (but not!) the e200 series, and Bagder has said that the dummy signing on the View works like it does on the e200. |
| 15:23:49 | GodEater | What about the Logik DAB thingy linuxstb is working on ? :) |
| 15:24:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: He made good progress on it, but where does it stand now? |
| 15:24:13 | GodEater | LambdaCalculus37: this is true, but no-one's actually working on a port for it :) |
| 15:24:22 | GodEater | LambdaCalculus37: I've no clue - ask him :) |
| 15:24:39 | Febs | wen r u going 2 make a hack 4 the ipod classic lol? |
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| 15:24:42 | * | Febs runs and hides. |
| 15:24:49 | GodEater | of course, he's technically still working on the Tatung Elio too... |
| 15:25:01 | GodEater | talk of the devil :) |
| 15:25:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | Febs: You silly person, you. :) |
| 15:25:09 | GodEater | Febs, you need to brush up on your aol speak |
| 15:25:16 | GodEater | it's too easy to understand :) |
| 15:25:19 | BigBambi | s/lol/lolz |
| 15:25:38 | Febs | If I ever actually become fluent in AOL-speak, you have my permission to shoot me. |
| 15:25:39 | BigBambi | A few random uses of z always helps |
| 15:25:43 | GodEater | s/lol/lolkthxbyebbqwtf!!!111one11!eleven |
| 15:25:57 | BigBambi | omg i fux0red lolz HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 15:25:58 | * | LambdaCalculus37 readies the BFG for the day Febs becomes fluent in AOL-speak |
| 15:26:14 | * | Llorean still wants to see the "as an app" ports of Rockbox. |
| 15:26:16 | GodEater | Febs, you mean you don't use it as your .lang in Rockbox ? :) |
| 15:26:24 | BigBambi | Llorean: That would be nice |
| 15:26:27 | pixelma | GodEater: don't forget that he also started an Archos AV300 (right name?) port... ;) |
| 15:26:33 | GodEater | Llorean: you mean from someone who sends the code back to us :) |
| 15:26:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Rockbox as an app would seriously be cool. |
| 15:26:38 | GodEater | pixelma: he sent that to scorche though |
| 15:27:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'm still trying to start the Dell DJ and Rio Karma ports. |
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| 15:27:16 | GodEater | shame there's still no luck on that CD |
| 15:27:17 | pixelma | didn't know that... waiting for scorche then :) |
| 15:27:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | But my coding skills are about as good as Rincewind's magic abilities. :( |
| 15:27:43 | GodEater | you mean you only know one program, but it's one of the BIG ones :) |
| 15:27:48 | * | Llorean should seriously get off his butt and code something again one day |
| 15:27:48 | BigBambi | No matter how bad your code you always survive? |
| 15:27:58 | Llorean | Something other than keymap changes and other hate inducing minor tweaks |
| 15:27:59 | GodEater | written by Stallman himself |
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| 15:28:19 | GodEater | Llorean: but you love all the vitriol that gets poured on you when you do those :) |
| 15:28:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yeah, how come I can go through the Emacs code like no one's business, but I can hardly even write a proper patch? :P |
| 15:30:29 | krazykit | you could port emacs to rockbox. rockmacs. |
| 15:30:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | krazykit: And easy way to terrify people. :) |
| 15:32:06 | krazykit | that would be rockvi ;) |
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| 15:34:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | krazykit: I saw your PM and responded. |
| 15:34:34 | krazykit | i'll respond later, as i have class in a few minutes |
| 15:35:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | krazykit: No prob. |
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| 15:39:19 | scorche | pixelma: well, he still has yet to actualtl ship it :) |
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| 15:41:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Having the AV300 port may help me out in continuing the AV100 port a bit, since they share some of the same hardware. |
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| 16:06:30 | amiconn | Llorean: Don't forget the M3 |
| 16:09:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oops... nearly forgot. :) |
| 16:10:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | I forgot that the M3 may join its brothers one day. |
| 16:11:35 | asn | Is it normal for rockbox to freeze that much? I mean, I was listening to a song today and I was also browsing to find the next to listen. When I tried to open the directory of the second song it froze there, saying "Loading |
| 16:11:45 | asn | and it unfroze when the first song finished playing |
| 16:13:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Can you clarify for us by telling us what player you're using and what kind of audio file it is that's causing this? |
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| 16:14:51 | asn | LambdaCalculus37: yeah of course. Both files were .mp3s. I'm using an iPod video 5G of 60GB, but with the .zip file (firmware?) of the 30GB model, since when I tried the .zip file of the 60GB model it would freeze in every menu I tried to enter. I asked here, and they told me to "downgrade" to the 30GB .zip file |
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| 16:16:15 | BigBambi | That is not normal, no |
| 16:17:29 | asn | I see |
| 16:17:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Shouldn't he be using the 60/80GB build? Sounds like a buffering problem to me. |
| 16:18:03 | BigBambi | Not if it didnt work |
| 16:18:18 | BigBambi | That would suggest a 60gb hard drive in a 30 gb body |
| 16:19:04 | BigBambi | And since the 30 gb has 32 mb or ram cf 64 mb in a 60 gb, if that were true using a 64 mb build on a 32 mb ipod whatever the size of disk would cause all sorts of crashes |
| 16:19:14 | BigBambi | s/or/of |
| 16:19:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Good call, dude. |
| 16:19:30 | BigBambi | However, it could be the current buffering problem, yes |
| 16:19:40 | asn | I'm using the current build file |
| 16:19:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Did you ever change your hard drive on your iPod? Just curious. |
| 16:19:48 | asn | No. |
| 16:19:58 | asn | The guy that helped me asked that too. |
| 16:20:08 | asn | that helped me by telling me to switch .zip files, that is. |
| 16:20:15 | BigBambi | It is rare, but has been known for a 60gb drive in a 30 gb body |
| 16:20:15 | asn | (that zip file is the firmware?) |
| 16:20:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: So you most definitely have a 5G iPod video, with the original 60GB hard drive in it. |
| 16:20:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | We needed to make sure. |
| 16:20:51 | BigBambi | asn: Are you experiencing similar things to this: FS #8260 |
| 16:21:00 | BigBambi | (that is a flyspray number) |
| 16:21:02 | asn | LambdaCalculus37: Well, I'm sure it's 60GB, I'm sure it's an Ipod, I'm sure it can play videos. I'm just not sure that it's 5G, but from that apple site I think that is _5G_ |
| 16:21:35 | BigBambi | asn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8260 |
| 16:21:37 | asn | BigBambi: flyspray number? I don't know what's that ^.^ I can't remember FS #8260 or anything like that in my rockbox screen :( |
| 16:21:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: No, that's definitely a 5G then. But we just want to make sure... we have a few hardware modders that stop by, too, y'know. |
| 16:22:10 | BigBambi | asn: flyspray is the bug/patch tracker. See my link |
| 16:22:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: If you want, you can post a comment to that link BigBambi gave you so the devs can check it out. |
| 16:23:24 | BigBambi | asn: There are also a good few threads on the forum about related issues. Have a check through them and see if it sounds familiar |
| 16:25:04 | asn | About that bug report. First of all, I've only tried once listening to music with my Rockbox, today (these last 2 days I've been messing with rockbox. games etc.). The problem happened on the first song. What I don't understand is the (audio skips for about a quarter of second (sounds like a glitch)) deal. My current playing sond didn't stop, it's just that rockbox display froze to a "Loading" screen 'till the current playing song finished. |
| 16:25:24 | BigBambi | hmmm |
| 16:25:29 | BigBambi | maybe not that then |
| 16:30:00 | GodEater | LambdaCalculus37: it was me that diagnosed the "wrong amount of RAM" issue, and only because I've heard of "repairs" from Apple of 60/80GB ipods being sent back in a 30GB body (i.e. with the lower amount of RAM). |
| 16:30:07 | asn | and it's not reproducable btw. For example, it now works alright. |
| 16:30:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: Strange that Apple would do that... sounds kind of like the Sansa v2 bodies with V1 hardware inside issue. |
| 16:31:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Coffee time. |
| 16:31:05 | * | LambdaCalculus37 will return |
| 16:38:11 | asn | There, it froze again. Now when I tried to access the Files directory. But this time no "Loading" or anything. |
| 16:38:29 | asn | I wonder if it will unfreeze when the song ends |
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| 16:41:21 | BigBambi | What is the forum policy on people selling stuff? |
| 16:41:40 | asn | heh it indeed unfreeze after the song ended. |
| 16:41:41 | scorche|w | meh...depends on how they go about it |
| 16:41:58 | BigBambi | scorche|w: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14953.0 |
| 16:42:59 | scorche|w | expensive... |
| 16:43:07 | BigBambi | It is quite |
| 16:43:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | But he says it's new. |
| 16:43:34 | scorche|w | as long as he doesnt spam it around other threads/bump/draw attention, he should be fine (as we never made a FS forum) |
| 16:43:50 | BigBambi | I think so too, just wasn't sure |
| 16:44:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | scorche|w: Think we should make one at some time in the future? Would be nice for people looking to unload old DAPs without eBay or Amazon or some crap like that. |
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| 16:45:28 | scorche|w | LambdaCalculus37: it was discussed in a private area, but discussion kind of stalled on it |
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| 16:49:45 | asn | What is a root.m3u8 in my root directory? |
| 16:51:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: root.m3u8 is a playlist for all of the music on your iPod. |
| 16:51:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | You can play it, then turn on Shuffle to listen to a big mix of all of your music. |
| 16:51:58 | BigBambi | It usually would be that |
| 16:52:03 | asn | I see |
| 16:52:08 | asn | Thank you. |
| 16:52:14 | BigBambi | but only if you had recursivly insert directories on when creating it |
| 16:54:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Take note of what BigBambi says. |
| 16:54:20 | toffe82 | talking about the root.m3u8, shouldn't be better to have it in the list of the playlist ? and perhaps rename it to something like ALL ? |
| 16:54:30 | BigBambi | at the basic level it is just a playlist called root |
| 16:54:53 | BigBambi | If you created a playlist of everything on the player, the default name for it is root (as it was created in the root directory) |
| 16:54:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffe82: Yes, you can always rename it yourself. |
| 16:55:00 | toffe82 | As it is a playlist , why it doens't appear in the list of the playlist ? |
| 16:55:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | I named mine "The Lot.m3u8". :) |
| 16:55:20 | BigBambi | toffe82: Because that only happens if you use the playlist catalogue |
| 16:55:39 | BigBambi | I certainly don't want all of my playlists I create to go in the playlist catalogue |
| 16:56:27 | BigBambi | If the user wants to create a playlist of whatever they want (e.g. all music) and put it in the playlist catalogue they can |
| 16:56:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | The freedom to use your DAP as you see fit... right BigBambi? |
| 16:56:57 | BigBambi | hell yes |
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| 17:02:08 | asn | Rockbox forums are down |
| 17:03:59 | toffe82 | BigBambi: what is the difference of using the playlist catalog or browsing a directory for searching a playlist ? |
| 17:04:46 | BigBambi | playlist catalogue lets you manipulate playlists |
| 17:05:00 | BigBambi | But I don't always want a playlist to end up there |
| 17:05:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Give them a little time. |
| 17:05:25 | BigBambi | I might want it in a specific directory to make it easier when I copy music on and off the player for instance |
| 17:06:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: On all of my devices, I just create a "Playlists" folder and copy .m3u8 files into it. |
| 17:06:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | I also make it a habit of keeping a common folder structure across all my devices to facilitate easier transfer of playlists. |
| 17:06:48 | toffe82 | where are the playlist when you use the catalog ? |
| 17:07:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | toffee82: In my "Playlists" folder on my iPod. |
| 17:07:41 | BigBambi | If I have /artist/album on my dap, I might want a playlist of my favourite songs for a particular artist from multiple albums. If I put the playlist in /artist, I can copy /artist to anywhere and all the realtive paths etc will still be correct |
| 17:07:45 | toffe82 | ok on your , but by default ? |
| 17:07:54 | BigBambi | toffe82: The playlist catalogue uses /playlists |
| 17:08:27 | BigBambi | and is hard coded to so do |
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| 17:15:57 | asn | BigBambi: LambdaCalculus37: I found a relevant to my issue thread in the Rockbox forum: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10814.30 The only difference is the fact that my iPod unfreezes when the song finishes. Also a guy in the 3rd page mentioned another problem I have with Rockbox, that it sometimes it just doesn't start up and I will have to use the Menu+OK buttons to open it (Dip in the third page describes it better) |
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| 17:31:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: My iPods are showing no problems whatsoever. This is a strange issue. |
| 17:32:06 | asn | hihi |
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| 17:33:56 | asn | Well, I disabled ReplayGain, since a guy was saying that this fixed his problem, and I will see how it goes |
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| 17:35:05 | asn | I've also found a guide to audio settings tips in Rockbox (how to use less battery through smart audio settings ,etc.) in the internets but I can't find it |
| 17:35:11 | asn | right now |
| 17:36:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's the kind of information that should be on the wiki, so that you're guaranteed to find it. |
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| 17:53:02 | markun | toffe82: someone's looking for you: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14915.0 |
| 17:54:38 | toffe82 | markun: thanks , I talked with him yesterday |
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| 18:04:33 | asn | Is a song-progress-bar in the status-bar in development, or is it already implemented and I don't have it enabled. |
| 18:08:16 | markun | or neither? |
| 18:09:23 | markun | I haven't heard of this feature (working or being worked on) but you could search through the patch tracker |
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| 18:23:51 | Subliminaut | Hello |
| 18:24:09 | Subliminaut | Any ideas why rockbox reboots my 5G ipod when I plug it in via USB? |
| 18:24:20 | Subliminaut | I just want to copy crapola to it, not reboot to disk mode |
| 18:24:52 | krazykit | because rockbox does not yet have USB transfer capability |
| 18:25:27 | Galois | you can hold down the menu key when you plug it in, then it won't reboot (but you still can't copy stuff) |
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| 18:32:16 | Subliminaut | HMM |
| 18:32:20 | Subliminaut | whoops |
| 18:32:20 | Subliminaut | thanks |
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| 19:24:45 | webguest73 | Problem: Updated my G3 IPOD an am now getting the error " Data abort at 000CC198 (0)". |
| 19:25:13 | webguest73 | I updated by replacing the .rockbox folder. |
| 19:25:25 | PaulPosition | I'm going to try and test Buschel's power consumption patch... Should I test on a build from 'then' svn (..86) or current one (...91) |
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| 19:26:17 | BigBambi | webguest73: That is a known problem, so builds work, some don't more or less randomly |
| 19:26:24 | BigBambi | s/so/some |
| 19:26:32 | pixelma | this is a known problem with some builds on 1st-3rd gen Ipods, you can only return to your old build and try new ones from time to time ... |
| 19:27:07 | webguest73 | Duh, to bad, I didn't think to back up... |
| 19:27:25 | GodEater_ | webguest73: there are daily builds available on the site going back a month |
| 19:27:50 | GodEater_ | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 19:27:55 | webguest73 | Any known good for 1st-3rd gen Ipods? |
| 19:28:07 | * | GodEater_ hasn't a clue |
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| 19:28:25 | webguest73 | Thank you for your help... I'll start randomly trying some |
| 19:30:44 | pixelma | the last one working I _definitely- know of is the 2nd January daily (didn't follow as I'm not affected someone reported it here). |
| 19:31:16 | pixelma | but maybe later ones work as well |
| 19:33:48 | conando | hm is there a known cause for this? |
| 19:34:37 | pixelma | webguest73: someone in the forums lists working builds for his 2nd gen Ipod > http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14228.msg106755#msg106755. I'm not sure if they behave exactly the same for 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ipods. |
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| 19:38:01 | pixelma | conando: not that I know of (jhMikeS was investing which commit caused it but didn't even get a clear result) |
| 19:42:09 | webguest73 | FYI: 16068 works on G3 IPODS |
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| 20:10:12 | Viaken | I'm having trouble putting rockbox on my 2 Sansa e260's. I got it on the first one seemingly by luck. Most of the time, I get "unsupported install Method". |
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| 20:12:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Viaken: Are you following the install instructions in the manual? |
| 20:12:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or are you using Rockbox Utility? |
| 20:12:38 | Viaken | The utility. |
| 20:12:42 | Viaken | Is that...not suggested? :P |
| 20:12:42 | advcomp2019 | Viaken, are you sure it is not a v2 |
| 20:12:58 | Viaken | It's not a v2 that I can tell. |
| 20:13:07 | BigBambi | Viaken: What is the original firmware version? |
| 20:13:32 | Domonoky | "unsupported install Method" seems strange which version of rbutil is this ? |
| 20:13:54 | Viaken | Original firmware: 01.02.18A |
| 20:14:00 | BigBambi | V1 then |
| 20:14:02 | Viaken | rbutil m1.0.2 |
| 20:14:15 | Viaken | Couldn't find a Linux download link for m1.0.3 |
| 20:14:39 | Domonoky | ah, thats it, try a newer version of rbutil.. 1.0.2 has this bug if you use "complete install" |
| 20:14:43 | * | Viaken nods |
| 20:14:54 | Viaken | Guess I'm compiling from source, then, eh? :P |
| 20:15:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Viaken: That's your best shot. |
| 20:15:22 | Domonoky | 1.0.2 should also work, if you restart rbutil, and use the install buttons on the second tab.. |
| 20:15:31 | Viaken | I tried that and it wouldn't work. *shrugs* |
| 20:15:40 | pixelma | and make sure that your e260s are set to MSC mode (unfortunately the note is currently only in the "manually install" chapter of the manual IIRC) |
| 20:15:48 | * | Viaken nods |
| 20:16:00 | Domonoky | have you restart rbutil before trying the buttons on the second tab ? |
| 20:16:08 | Viaken | They're definately MSC. They get automounted fine, and I can throw stuff on them if I have to. |
| 20:16:15 | Viaken | ...that is actually a good question. Let me try it. |
| 20:16:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Viaken: Okay. We'll be here. |
| 20:16:31 | Viaken | *facepalm* I thought I had. |
| 20:16:39 | Viaken | That worked fine. :P |
| 20:16:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Is it installing correctly now? |
| 20:16:50 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 20:17:07 | Viaken | The bootloader did. |
| 20:17:13 | Domonoky | somebody should update that linux binary of rbutil (not me) :-) |
| 20:17:48 | Viaken | I'd gladly compile a package if I knew how to get the m1.0.3 release... Only two options I see are precompiled and svn. |
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| 20:18:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | Domonoky: Would creating .deb and .rpm packages be an option for rbutil as well? |
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| 20:18:36 | Domonoky | with updateing i mean generating a new statically built version of rbutil out of svn.. |
| 20:19:08 | Domonoky | LambdaCalculus37: i dont think they are needed, rbutil is a single binary.. |
| 20:19:33 | Viaken | And you shouldn't have to use it too often, ne? |
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| 20:19:53 | Domonoky | but it wouldnt hurt... maybe wait with this for the m1.04 release (this includes .talk and voice generation) |
| 20:20:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | Domonoky: We could maybe even have a .deb package be part of the Ubuntu repositories. |
| 20:21:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | But this is merely crazy thoughts dancing in my crazy little brain... |
| 20:21:18 | scorche|w | well, lets wait till it works more often :) |
| 20:21:25 | Viaken | :) |
| 20:21:33 | Viaken | Well, thank you very much for your time and help. |
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| 20:21:47 | Domonoky | hat would be nice, apt get rbutil :-) but i think rbutil is still not stable enough for this.. ie too much updates.. |
| 20:22:11 | Viaken | Besides, it's Qt based. Ubuntu is all Gnomish. |
| 20:22:17 | Viaken | >.> |
| 20:22:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | Viaken: You forget Kubuntu? :) |
| 20:22:29 | Domonoky | KUbuntu ! :-) |
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| 20:22:39 | Viaken | No, but Kubuntu != Ubuntu. :P |
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| 20:57:58 | Viaken | Hmm...the first two seconds of any song, as well as things that cause a lot of IO and/or processing create a little squeaky static. But it's not unique to rockbox, so *shrugs*. |
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| 21:01:18 | Viaken | I should say few seconds. |
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| 21:04:12 | Viaken | This "enable replaygain"...does that read tags that are there or attempt to analyze the song and apply it on the player? |
| 21:04:41 | BigBambi | reads them |
| 21:04:52 | BigBambi | It ould be FAR too slow to analyse on dap |
| 21:04:57 | BigBambi | *would |
| 21:05:22 | Viaken | Then how do you get to chose the type? |
| 21:05:30 | BigBambi | Take a look at the manual, it tells you what the menu items do |
| 21:05:31 | Viaken | album/track |
| 21:05:39 | Viaken | Fair enough :) |
| 21:05:49 | BigBambi | You will note another option in the replaygain menu |
| 21:06:00 | BigBambi | That lets you chose which tag is applied in what circumstance |
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| 21:29:00 | Viaken | I suppose it's best to use an mp3 to test battery discharge rate, to take advantage of the hardware decoder? |
| 21:29:34 | Domonoky | only the old archos have hardware decoders.. |
| 21:29:42 | pixelma | there's no hardware decoder in the e200s |
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| 21:33:41 | Viaken | oh |
| 21:33:47 | Viaken | Well alrighty then |
| 21:35:49 | Motosuwa | hey, can I check a modified usb picture using the simulator? |
| 21:36:00 | JdGordon|w | yeah |
| 21:36:03 | Motosuwa | like, can I "connect the simulator" to the pc? |
| 21:36:06 | JdGordon|w | press u to simulate usb |
| 21:36:13 | Motosuwa | oh, simples as that? |
| 21:36:14 | Motosuwa | thanks |
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| 21:40:06 | webguest47 | hello, have tried to replace the rockbox software on my H10 and the player is now broken, it tells me Rockbox error : -1; I cross checked several times to have installed as described in the docu, but there seems to be still something wrong |
| 21:40:23 | webguest47 | anybody here who wants to help me ? |
| 21:40:54 | Viaken | Booting into the original firmware still work? |
| 21:41:36 | webguest47 | did not use the original software for > 1,5 years and so do not know how to boot this |
| 21:41:55 | JdGordon|w | which docs were you following? |
| 21:42:03 | JdGordon|w | -1 means you didnt extract rockbox.zip |
| 21:42:16 | webguest47 | maybe I deletet from "/" something I should not have deleted |
| 21:42:22 | BigBambi | and when did you last update? |
| 21:42:33 | JdGordon|w | ... or your using a really old bootloader which looks for rockbox.mi4 in the wrong place |
| 21:42:46 | * | BigBambi was hinting at that :) |
| 21:42:47 | webguest47 | my previous rockbox version was from sept. 2006 |
| 21:43:01 | BigBambi | You need to upgrade the bootloader too |
| 21:43:54 | webguest47 | what is the proper name and dir for the bootloader ? docu says "root", but I'm not sure if they mean "/.rockbox/" or "/" |
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| 21:44:00 | BigBambi | root is / |
| 21:44:23 | BigBambi | Are you using the manual? |
| 21:46:05 | * | GodEater_ wonders what word we should use instead of root, since so many people stumble on it |
| 21:46:18 | BigBambi | well, root is the word |
| 21:46:34 | BigBambi | The problem in my mind is the lack of basic computing knowledge |
| 21:46:45 | BigBambi | I don't knwo how else to describe it really |
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| 21:47:18 | Viaken | It -is- root. Just because people from other operating systems, or with less computing knowledge doesn't know it doesn't mean it's the wrong word to use. |
| 21:47:32 | webguest47 | and the name ? I used "/H10.mi4", approx. 51k , since I was not sure have also "/rockbox.mi4" approx. 530k, have it now in both "/" and ".rockbox" |
| 21:47:42 | Viaken | s/doesn't know it /, / |
| 21:47:43 | BigBambi | No, but if we could find a nice alternative it would be good to help people out |
| 21:48:01 | BigBambi | webguest47: Are you following the instructions in the manual? |
| 21:48:14 | Viaken | Maybe a mini description of what root is, every so often? |
| 21:48:21 | GodEater_ | I've given up pointing people to the wikipedia page describing what "root" is |
| 21:48:59 | Viaken | Wikipedia articles can be a bit much for people just wanting to know "what does this word mean?" |
| 21:49:01 | webguest47 | yes, unpacked rockbox, and the fonts + the bootloader, I wonder why at startup still the timestamp of the old bootloader is displayed |
| 21:49:31 | BigBambi | Viaken: We are not suggesting putting it in the manual, just pointing people at it, e.g. in the forums |
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| 21:50:03 | GodEater_ | webguest47: you've not read the manual properly for the bootloader part |
| 21:50:11 | GodEater_ | the H10.mi4 doesn't go in the root directory |
| 21:50:24 | webguest47 | what else ? |
| 21:50:40 | * | BigBambi gives up saying read the manual |
| 21:50:58 | GodEater_ | webguest47: as BigBambi says : "Read the manual" |
| 21:50:59 | Domonoky | webguest47: hint: its in the manual :-) |
| 21:51:09 | * | Bagder suggests reading the manual |
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| 21:51:56 | webguest47 | you are right, it tells system directory |
| 21:52:12 | webguest47 | I mixed up root and system, try now .... |
| 21:52:41 | GodEater_ | :rolleyes: |
| 21:54:14 | webguest47 | is there really a "/system" directory ? |
| 21:54:19 | BigBambi | yes |
| 21:54:40 | GodEater_ | webguest47: the manual even says how to display it if you can't see it |
| 21:54:57 | webguest47 | then I deleted it before while trying to delete the old stuff |
| 21:55:10 | webguest47 | you mean hidden ? |
| 21:55:12 | * | BigBambi sighs |
| 21:55:16 | Viaken | BigBambi: Some people just don't want to hear rtfm, no matter how politely you say it. :\ |
| 21:55:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Time to go home... bye, all! |
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| 21:55:39 | pixelma | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ProjectGlossary#Root :) |
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| 21:56:22 | webguest47 | was it "/system" or "/.system" ? |
| 21:56:29 | Bagder | now please stop this |
| 21:56:35 | Bagder | RTFM |
| 21:56:36 | Bagder | now |
| 21:56:55 | Bagder | then come back if there are details in there you don't understand |
| 21:57:18 | GodEater_ | first you R, then you go over to T while slowly considering F and the adjacent M |
| 21:57:27 | * | GodEater_ steals more of Bagder's past work |
| 21:57:35 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 21:57:45 | webguest47 | OK |
| 21:57:51 | GodEater_ | it's over a year since it was last used anyway |
| 21:58:09 | Bagder | it is? time sure goes fast these days! |
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| 21:58:22 | BigBambi | time isn't what it used to be |
| 21:59:10 | GodEater_ | Sept25 was our last GoldenQuotes submission |
| 21:59:14 | GodEater_ | it's time for a new one |
| 21:59:23 | GodEater_ | make history please people |
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| 22:00:07 | * | GodEater_ wonders if BigBambi is even aware of the GoldenQuotes page |
| 22:00:17 | BigBambi | am indeed :) |
| 22:00:48 | Mouser_X | It's a great place for a laugh, IMO. |
| 22:00:50 | GodEater_ | it tends to only get mentioned here |
| 22:01:00 | GodEater_ | and you've not been an IRC regular for long ;) |
| 22:01:02 | BigBambi | I shall proceed to get more metaphysical |
| 22:01:14 | BigBambi | I read the logs for far longer than I have been here |
| 22:01:19 | GodEater_ | ah |
| 22:01:24 | BigBambi | but yeah, there are some crackers there |
| 22:01:58 | GodEater_ | I've only made it in there twice - I need to work on that :) |
| 22:02:19 | obo | Bagder: I've been updating the SansaConnect wiki page as I've found things out, but any tips on how to procede? |
| 22:03:22 | Bagder | I like that it includes curl... :-) |
| 22:04:14 | Bagder | obo: what's your preferred approach to run stuff on it, to put a replacement upgrade or to attempt a buffer overrun or similar? |
| 22:04:20 | GodEater_ | I can't imagine why you'd like that Bagder ;) |
| 22:04:58 | obo | I think buffer overrun... the Atmel AT88SC bit is just plain nasty |
| 22:05:36 | obo | but it is purely MTP, so getting ssh onto it would be a nice start |
| 22:06:05 | Bagder | are you aware of anything that runs on the web server? |
| 22:06:11 | Bagder | or which web server? |
| 22:06:32 | Bagder | ... I would suspect busybox's |
| 22:06:41 | GodEater_ | nmap might be able to tell |
| 22:06:50 | GodEater_ | it does rudimentary application identification these days |
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| 22:07:16 | Bagder | its openssl version has numerous security advisories on it |
| 22:07:22 | obo | nmap couldn't ID it... but I have the root filesystem, will have to dig around some more. |
| 22:07:40 | Domonoky | if you find a buffer overrun on the webserver, you could make a wifi bootloader :-) |
| 22:07:54 | GodEater_ | Bagder: any holes in that version of libcurl? ;) |
| 22:07:54 | obo | I can't find anything real on the webserver yet |
| 22:07:58 | obo | hehe |
| 22:08:09 | obo | libpng is another option... |
| 22:08:38 | Bagder | right, that's more of a "classic" |
| 22:08:59 | obo | png is 1.2.8, curl is 7.16.0 |
| 22:09:24 | Bagder | yeah, no known flaw in that curl version (that you can use) |
| 22:09:55 | GodEater_ | I never doubted it |
| 22:10:03 | BigBambi | suckup |
| 22:10:05 | GodEater_ | curse you and your quality coding |
| 22:10:12 | Bagder | http://curl.haxx.se/docs/vulnerabilities.html ... |
| 22:10:41 | Bagder | its slippery, that security business... |
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| 22:11:23 | Bagder | there are 5 flaws in that libpng version |
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| 22:11:49 | * | GodEater_ has been playing around with WebGoat recently |
| 22:11:57 | BRi7X | hey folks... my gigabeat f broke again (another hard drive failure)... i'm looking online for another gigabeat f to buy, but i can't find one... can anyone recommend an mp3 player similar to the gigabeat (one that isn't made by apple, preferably) |
| 22:12:47 | obo | is Curl_ossl_version an indication it's using openssl rather than gnutls? |
| 22:13:16 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:14:23 | Bagder | and since the server says that and only openssl is listed, I assumed so... |
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| 22:14:59 | Viaken | What are you all trying to get into? |
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| 22:15:40 | GodEater_ | Viaken: Sansa Connect mp3 player |
| 22:16:01 | Viaken | ahh :? |
| 22:16:03 | Viaken | :)* |
| 22:16:12 | GodEater_ | a Sherif smiley ? |
| 22:16:39 | Viaken | Heh..suppose that'll work. *shrugs* The keys are right next to each other. |
| 22:17:18 | GodEater_ | they're seperated by the 9 key here.... |
| 22:19:57 | Viaken | L here. |
| 22:20:04 | Viaken | Or [, depending on which direction you go. |
| 22:20:06 | DataMatrix-BG | excusem me for bothering you here |
| 22:20:20 | Viaken | ...does this discussion sound that important? ;) |
| 22:20:23 | GodEater_ | DataMatrix-BG: no excuses required ;) |
| 22:20:42 | DataMatrix-BG | im looking for a program to get a copy of my firmware from my MP4 |
| 22:21:12 | DataMatrix-BG | it's a RockChip RK2608A |
| 22:21:17 | Bagder | DataMatrix-BG: there aren't generic such ones |
| 22:21:36 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 22:22:29 | DataMatrix-BG | i've tried the s1fwx v3.2 & 3.0 |
| 22:22:42 | linuxstb_ | BRi7X: Why not just replace the hard drive? |
| 22:22:43 | DataMatrix-BG | they didn't recognize my device |
| 22:23:05 | BigBambi | DataMatrix-BG: This is off topic for rockbox |
| 22:23:20 | DataMatrix-BG | k |
| 22:23:21 | BRi7X | So would I just go find the same hard drive and slap it in there? |
| 22:23:26 | Bagder | DataMatrix-BG: you can't just randomly test programs and assume they'll work... |
| 22:23:42 | BRi7X | Is it a common thing with these hard drives for that to happen? this is the second time this happened within a year |
| 22:23:49 | Bagder | BigBambi: not if it'll be the base for a new port! ;-) |
| 22:24:03 | BigBambi | very true - I wait with baited breath :) |
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| 22:24:34 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: depends how often you drop the player... |
| 22:24:37 | linuxstb_ | BRi7X: The HardDriveReplacement wiki page has lots of nice info. |
| 22:25:14 | uyx | hey, any Big Black fans around? |
| 22:25:27 | | Nick uyx is now known as xyu1 (n=eonxyu@adsl-83-100-201-190.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 22:25:35 | BRi7X | well, i am quite clumsy... the first time was because it dropped flat on its back... but this second time i don't remember dropping it that much today |
| 22:25:50 | xyu1 | oh, sorry, didn't read the wiki before saying something. ¬_¬ |
| 22:26:02 | BRi7X | where's the HardDriveReplacement Wiki? |
| 22:26:16 | BigBambi | on the wiki |
| 22:26:22 | BRi7X | alrighty |
| 22:26:41 | GodEater_ | www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement |
| 22:26:43 | Viaken | If you don't need as much storage space, you may want to look into a flash-based player. :P |
| 22:26:58 | GodEater_ | yeah, they don't mind being dropped as much |
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| 22:27:32 | xyu1 | anyway : I'm trying to get hold of Atomizer by Big Black, if anyone can help, let me know. :P |
| 22:27:34 | BRi7X | i definitely do need the space, i think i had this 40GB drive filled up half way |
| 22:27:57 | BRi7X | i'm trying to load up the disk contents in konqueror and it's' been stalled since i plugged it in |
| 22:28:48 | roxfan2 | there are 64GB CF cards |
| 22:29:13 | GodEater_ | not exactly cheap though |
| 22:29:23 | roxfan2 | yep |
| 22:29:25 | GodEater_ | and that would require more work that just a hard drive replacement |
| 22:29:27 | xyu1 | gah! you're not the RockBox torrent site. Later. :D |
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| 22:29:45 | roxfan2 | there are cf-ide adapters of 1.8"(?) size |
| 22:30:03 | GodEater_ | there's a rockbox torrent site ? |
| 22:30:11 | BigBambi | news to me |
| 22:30:14 | GodEater_ | me too |
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| 22:30:31 | GodEater_ | wow - there is too |
| 22:30:35 | roxfan2 | http://www.psism.com/adcf.htm 2.5" |
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| 22:31:30 | BRi7X | so i'd need an MK4004GAH? |
| 22:31:34 | BRi7X | (i have the F40) |
| 22:32:05 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: or any of the other 8mm drives with that connector |
| 22:33:19 | BRi7X | so bascially i can turn an F40 into an F160 if i so desired |
| 22:33:20 | GodEater_ | if you can find one, you could fit an MK8007GAH |
| 22:33:20 | roxfan2 | http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11521 1.8" |
| 22:33:43 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: I don't think there are any 50 pin 160GB 1.8" drives |
| 22:34:04 | GodEater_ | 80GB is about as large as you could go |
| 22:34:10 | GodEater_ | and those drives are hard to find |
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| 22:34:21 | GodEater_ | but if you DID get one - you'd be able to use it no problem |
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| 22:36:37 | BRi7X | well, do you know of anyone selling gigabeat f's still? i'd get an s if the s port was up... i was able to get that f40 last may when the other broke |
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| 22:37:01 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: as far as I know, ebay is the only place to get them these days |
| 22:38:20 | GodEater_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-MEG-F40S-40-GB-10000-Songs-MP3_W0QQitemZ250204757912QQihZ015QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:38:24 | GodEater_ | for example... |
| 22:38:51 | GodEater_ | nice and cheap too |
| 22:38:57 | GodEater_ | and only 2 hours left on the auction |
| 22:39:01 | GodEater_ | it's almost tempting... |
| 22:40:16 | Horscht | very cheap |
| 22:40:49 | BRi7X | how used is used? for some reason i think it's a little bit yes damaged than mine, which is perfectly fine |
| 22:40:58 | * | nanok would get one, but tends to drive to hard during the daily comute, a hdd player wouldn't take it.. |
| 22:41:02 | nanok | :) |
| 22:41:26 | scorche|w | no one bid on that so i can use it as an example for a guy who has one off of craigslist >_> |
| 22:41:40 | BRi7X | but i need a new gigabeat :( |
| 22:41:41 | Horscht | pardon? |
| 22:42:08 | * | scorche|w whistles |
| 22:42:35 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: ignore him :) |
| 22:42:39 | GodEater_ | bid on it if you want it |
| 22:42:57 | Nico_P | toffe82 ? |
| 22:43:09 | toffe82 | Nico_P: yes |
| 22:43:26 | Nico_P | hi. I was just wondering whether you knew about S batteries |
| 22:43:35 | Nico_P | mine seems to be quite weak |
| 22:44:07 | toffe82 | less than 8 hours |
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| 22:44:33 | GodEater_ | ooh - there's a G5 there too |
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| 22:44:38 | GodEater_ | haven't seen one of those before |
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| 22:44:48 | Nico_P | I never really measured, but I'm always surprised by how it goes down... I guess I should measure once |
| 22:44:53 | toffe82 | I use it in the past and didn't get more than that |
| 22:44:56 | nanok | "tem is in good condition. I have owned it for about a year. I don't have a need for it anymore. Your loss is my gain." |
| 22:45:01 | nanok | hahaha |
| 22:45:04 | Nico_P | I never actually use the player though |
| 22:45:04 | nanok | that's nice |
| 22:45:05 | toffe82 | do you have harmonics on ? |
| 22:45:09 | nanok | "your loss is my gain" |
| 22:45:10 | bEnN | does anyone know a good linux distro to compile on? |
| 22:45:16 | GodEater_ | There's a MES60 up there for $132 too |
| 22:45:24 | GodEater_ | bEnN: they all work just the same |
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| 22:45:30 | Nico_P | toffe82: I don't think so, but as I said I only use the player for occasional rockbox hacking |
| 22:45:39 | bEnN | i need one that can compile, and can be loaded on2 a usb |
| 22:45:45 | toffe82 | GodEaterI got a s60 for 50$ 2 weeks ago ;) |
| 22:45:54 | GodEater_ | toffe82: a working one ? |
| 22:46:03 | nanok | bEnN: maybe try damn small linux? |
| 22:46:14 | GodEater_ | nanok: don't think it ships with gcc does it ? |
| 22:46:19 | toffe82 | it was supposed to be broken but it was working, I just reload the firmware |
| 22:46:20 | JdGordon|w | running on zunelinuz |
| 22:46:21 | bEnN | any others, dsl doesnt work with my internet |
| 22:46:23 | nanok | bEnN: i am not sure about the development tools included though |
| 22:46:38 | bEnN | ubuntu would be good, but to big |
| 22:46:41 | nanok | GodEater_: yeah, that's the problem |
| 22:46:58 | GodEater_ | toffe82: nice result ;) |
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| 22:47:24 | GodEater_ | I can't think of any "usb stick" distros which ship with development tools |
| 22:47:33 | nanok | bEnN: you could also try knoppix, maybe. it surely is one of the fastest ways to get a fucntional linux desktop to your machine |
| 22:47:55 | bEnN | i can only install it on a usb |
| 22:47:58 | GodEater_ | toffe82: what are you doing with all these gigabeats? ;) |
| 22:48:05 | nanok | fastest and easyest (not much trouble). it is not small though |
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| 22:48:22 | bEnN | is there a way to strip it down under 500mb? |
| 22:48:25 | pixelma | GodEater: see TowerOfRockbox wiki ;) |
| 22:48:45 | toffe82 | :) |
| 22:49:05 | GodEater_ | you're buying them JUST to make a TowerOfRockbox? |
| 22:49:09 | GodEater_ | I'm not sure I buy it ;) |
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| 22:49:43 | toffe82 | I have only 6 working one f11 , 2 f10 1 s30 1s60 and a v30 |
| 22:50:02 | GodEater_ | you're not going to get a G then ? :) |
| 22:50:04 | toffe82 | all the other, like 15 are broken |
| 22:50:22 | bEnN | can any1 to a little compile thingy for me |
| 22:50:30 | bEnN | just change a bit of code in the bootloader? |
| 22:50:36 | toffe82 | I forgot I have a X30 |
| 22:50:52 | toffe82 | the one I actually use |
| 22:51:07 | Horscht | why, toffe82? |
| 22:51:14 | GodEater_ | bEnN: why not use either the vmware image, or cygwin? |
| 22:51:15 | Horscht | isn't one player enough? |
| 22:51:18 | GodEater_ | then you don't need linux at all |
| 22:51:28 | bEnN | what is cygwin like? |
| 22:51:34 | bEnN | cause vmware is to big |
| 22:51:36 | GodEater_ | toffe82: there's a G5 gigabeat on ebat too |
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| 22:51:41 | GodEater_ | ebay even |
| 22:52:07 | BRi7X | how is the Gigabeat S port coming along? i hear homebrew code is runnable now? |
| 22:52:29 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: it's coming along nicely :) |
| 22:52:39 | GodEater_ | still not "user" ready yet |
| 22:52:43 | toffe82 | Horscht: I am a collector |
| 22:52:59 | GodEater_ | ooh, there's a V30 too |
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| 22:54:18 | bEnN | with cygwin, is it easy to uninstall, because im only lickly to use it once |
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| 22:55:50 | GodEater_ | toffe82: is the T400 hardware interesting ? |
| 22:56:00 | BRi7X | so i just bid on that used f40 (no one screw me, please... haha)... so by the time that breaks, S port might be done? |
| 22:56:05 | toffe82 | I don't know, never see it |
| 22:56:13 | GodEater_ | http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-T400-Portable-Media-Player-Pink-New_W0QQitemZ160198323980QQihZ006QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:56:25 | GodEater_ | just your colour if it's really pink :) :) |
| 22:56:51 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: there are lots of other F40s for sale there too - but I don't think anyone here is quite mean enough to jack the price on purpose |
| 22:57:18 | GodEater_ | as for the "when" on the S port - it's impossible to say |
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| 22:57:28 | GodEater_ | as usual - we don't give release dates / estimates |
| 22:57:42 | Horscht | any ETA on the ETA? |
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| 22:58:09 | GodEater_ | I can't believe the number of gigabeat S for sale now |
| 22:58:17 | GodEater_ | there were NONE to be seen when I looked a few months back |
| 22:58:20 | GodEater_ | there's bloody LOADS now |
| 22:58:41 | Horscht | is that a sign that it's not good? |
| 22:58:53 | BigBambi | ... |
| 22:59:04 | Bagder | they've given up waiting on the rockbox port? B-] |
| 22:59:09 | GodEater_ | Bagder: hehehe |
| 22:59:10 | toffe82 | GodEater: a lot have a broken lcd |
| 22:59:17 | BRi7X | so should I buy a gigabeat S and keep it in storage until the rockbox port is ready? |
| 22:59:27 | BigBambi | if you like |
| 22:59:33 | GodEater_ | BRi7X: that's entirely up to you |
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| 23:00:16 | GodEater_ | right - it's past my bedtime - later all |
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| 23:01:26 | AceNik | guys fs#8379 seems to be very promising, im using it on my h10 currently seems to have made it much more stable in terms of battery readings atleast, should notice an increase, can anyone else pitch in to continue work on it ? |
| 23:01:56 | bEnN | can someone change a bit of code in the ipod bootloader for me |
| 23:02:41 | krazykit | bEnN, you can download the source and do it yourself |
| 23:03:25 | bEnN | im just warery of using cygwin, as my computer is getting quirte slowq |
| 23:04:42 | krazykit | cygwin shouldn't slow down your computer when it isn't running. |
| 23:05:35 | bEnN | how about uninstalling, is it easy? |
| 23:06:06 | bEnN | as im only going to use it once |
| 23:06:33 | krazykit | i would assume it's easy enough. |
| 23:07:00 | AceNik | hey amiconn you there? |
| 23:07:20 | bEnN | ill try it |
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| 23:10:28 | * | einhirn unlurks |
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| 23:10:45 | einhirn | Good evening (at least in CET) |
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| 23:12:40 | bEnN | morning |
| 23:14:04 | BRi7X | and in EST... |
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| 23:15:22 | bEnN | omfg firefox crashed :'( |
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| 23:17:56 | bEnN | hey can come1 help me install cygin? |
| 23:18:38 | linuxstb_ | This page can - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
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| 23:18:52 | bEnN | on the page with tha pictures |
| 23:19:03 | bEnN | it has a tar archiver ticked |
| 23:19:08 | bEnN | i cant find one in my installer |
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| 23:22:05 | bEnN | dw |
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| 23:22:29 | asn | riiiight |
| 23:25:45 | BRi7X | aww, some dick keeps outbidding me on the Gigabeat F40 |
| 23:26:02 | markun | it wasn't me! |
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| 23:26:22 | BRi7X | some guy named humphrey bogart |
| 23:26:28 | BRi7X | bogarting my next gigabeat |
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| 23:28:43 | BRi7X | man, this sucks |
| 23:33:00 | markun | BRi7X: your nick reminds me of http://brix-os.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:33:32 | BRi7X | i've been told it looks like bricks a lot... it's really pronounced Bri (as in Brian) then seven X |
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| 23:40:34 | nanok | BRi7X: how do you pronounce the seven x's? all together, or each spelles separately? |
| 23:40:48 | nanok | spelled |
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| 23:50:42 | BRi7X | Seven X, separately |
| 23:50:55 | BRi7X | sometimes i do the following to avoid confusion |
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| 23:51:35 | krazykit | Brian7X, nanok, please keep in mind this is an on-topic channel |
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| 23:52:14 | Brian7X | yes I know, which brings me to my next point, could you recommend a player besides gigabeat f (with very similar features, but not an ipod)? |
| 23:52:24 | | Part henger |
| 23:52:28 | Brian7X | one of those similar features is of course rockbox compatibility |
| 23:52:30 | krazykit | the BuyersGuide on the wiki would be a good start |
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| 23:52:46 | Brian7X | what's your personal choice? |
| 23:52:55 | krazykit | gigabeat f |
| 23:53:00 | * | linuxstb_ too ;) |
| 23:53:07 | JdGordon|w | e280 |
| 23:53:18 | krazykit | the s, probably, if/when rockbox gets ported |
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| 23:54:50 | jac0b | to use the simulator with linux do I need to install wine |
| 23:55:01 | krazykit | no |
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| 23:55:15 | krazykit | there's a native simulator for linux |
| 23:55:18 | jac0b | how do I strt it |
| 23:55:26 | jac0b | start* |
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| 23:55:38 | krazykit | cd to the directory, ./rockboxui |
| 23:56:15 | JdGordon|w | & |
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| 23:57:58 | krazykit | jac0b, more information can be found on the UiSimulator wiki page, including how to build it for linux |
| 23:58:13 | jac0b | thanks |
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