| 00:00:00 | * | JdGordon|w 's sansa seems to have a metalica fetish atm :p |
| 00:00:03 | webguest90 | jea |
| 00:00:09 | BigBambi | webguest90: It is fine, but a little hard to understand |
| 00:00:14 | webguest90 | gg |
| 00:00:16 | BigBambi | JacobDude: To the wiki? |
| 00:00:23 | JacobDude | yea |
| 00:00:29 | BigBambi | What is your wiki name? |
| 00:00:35 | JacobDude | JacobDude |
| 00:00:42 | BigBambi | Dude is your surname? |
| 00:00:48 | JacobDude | last? |
| 00:00:51 | BigBambi | yes |
| 00:01:00 | BigBambi | Your real name is Jacob Dude? |
| 00:01:07 | JacobDude | no -_- |
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| 00:01:12 | JacobDude | jacob is real first |
| 00:01:22 | BigBambi | Well, if you read the wiki, you are required to use your real name |
| 00:01:25 | JdGordon|w | simple asnwer was "yes" |
| 00:01:30 | idnar | heehee |
| 00:01:30 | webguest90 | my OF makes strange things... pushing up the volume to max, without pressing a button, navigation-stick does nothing an the power-button doesnt work, only can shut down the player by resetting |
| 00:01:35 | JacobDude | oh fine... |
| 00:01:37 | BigBambi | JdGordon: I wouldn't have believed him |
| 00:02:02 | idnar | BigBambi: are you going to demand two pieces of photo ID? ;P |
| 00:02:05 | * | JdGordon|w never got the point of the wiki forcing real names.. but ok |
| 00:02:19 | webguest90 | and at the top of the probs: hes playing a song, that doesnt even exist on the player |
| 00:02:39 | BigBambi | idnar: maybe :) |
| 00:02:43 | webguest90 | so rockbox is the only way |
| 00:02:45 | advcomp2019 | i think i know what webguest90 want to do on rockbox |
| 00:02:55 | BigBambi | webguest90: That is impossible, the song must be there |
| 00:03:54 | * | Bagder recalls having used the X5 OF once... |
| 00:04:08 | Bagder | I got stuck in the FM screen and couldn't get out of it... |
| 00:04:11 | BigBambi | Bagder: And did it play non-existant songs? |
| 00:04:18 | Bagder | had to resort to reading the manual ;-) |
| 00:04:23 | webguest90 | no, thats the weird thing... i*ve formatted the player an he still plays the song |
| 00:04:23 | BigBambi | !!!! |
| 00:04:33 | BigBambi | webguest90: It MUST be there |
| 00:04:40 | webguest90 | NO ^^ |
| 00:04:43 | BigBambi | The x5 cannot generate songs |
| 00:04:48 | webguest90 | heh |
| 00:04:49 | webguest90 | e |
| 00:04:55 | webguest90 | know that |
| 00:05:06 | BigBambi | therefore it must be there |
| 00:05:08 | webguest90 | but thats exactly my prob |
| 00:05:14 | Bagder | is the song "oooh cowon I love you!" ? ;-) |
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| 00:05:31 | advcomp2019 | webguest90 wants to play the music that is inside folders within a folder without making a playlist |
| 00:05:49 | webguest90 | no, some classical |
| 00:05:49 | Bagder | advcomp2019: and BigBambi told him how to do it... |
| 00:05:50 | BigBambi | advcomp2019: Which is what I gave him instructions for |
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| 00:06:09 | webguest90 | yea... exactly advcomp2019 |
| 00:06:18 | BigBambi | webguest90: And I told you how to |
| 00:06:26 | webguest90 | so i flash to rockbox an try that |
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| 00:06:37 | webguest90 | if it doesnt work, ill be back |
| 00:06:49 | BigBambi | Threats! :) |
| 00:06:52 | webguest90 | so thanks |
| 00:07:00 | BigBambi | no problem |
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| 00:10:09 | webguest90 | oh.. theres another question: is there a package where every patch is in it, or must i download all patches seperatly? |
| 00:10:18 | BigBambi | Every patch? |
| 00:10:29 | BigBambi | There are hundreds, and most don't work |
| 00:10:43 | BigBambi | Or are out of date, or do condradictory things |
| 00:11:01 | BigBambi | To get rockbox, you need the current build + fonts + bootloader mainly |
| 00:11:06 | BigBambi | All plugins are included |
| 00:11:11 | webguest90 | ah ok, thx |
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| 00:12:21 | pixelma | Bagder: that's called "iAUDIO's Theme" (original spelling) by Jack Lee on "iAUDIO-Friends & Lovers" :P |
| 00:13:11 | Bagder | ahah, oh yes I had forgot there actually was one of those. I only remembered the iriver one... |
| 00:14:35 | webguest90 | hu |
| 00:14:57 | webguest90 | theres a theme that looks like the iaudio? where can i get this |
| 00:15:37 | * | BigBambi seriously suggest reading the manual |
| 00:15:52 | pixelma | nah, that's the name of the song Cowon put on there |
| 00:16:07 | preglow | runtime definitely seems better on nano now |
| 00:16:41 | webguest90 | ah ok |
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| 00:25:58 | webguest90 | ok |
| 00:26:03 | webguest90 | im back ^^ |
| 00:26:31 | webguest90 | i activated recursivly insert directories an added my music folder |
| 00:28:20 | webguest90 | but when i'm browsing my music folder an find an artist i want to listen now and go the soundfile an select play by pressing the stick he makes a new playlist with the songs in this directory |
| 00:28:58 | BigBambi | you hold select then chose insert to add to current playlist |
| 00:28:58 | * | Bagder says nothing... |
| 00:29:05 | BigBambi | As I have already told you once |
| 00:29:17 | webguest90 | ive done so |
| 00:29:25 | BigBambi | so what is the problem? |
| 00:29:29 | webguest90 | and all files are in the playlist |
| 00:30:24 | webguest90 | but when i browse my folder an select one title in folder Guardian/Tales/Sound.mp3 he makes a new playlist with the folder Tales |
| 00:30:51 | BigBambi | not if you hold select to get the context menu then chose insert it doesn't |
| 00:31:00 | webguest90 | but i just want, that hes jumping to that file in the still existing playlist |
| 00:31:13 | BigBambi | you cannot do that |
| 00:31:36 | BigBambi | chose insert next then skip to the next song is the closest you will get |
| 00:32:12 | advcomp2019 | in the OF of the x5 there is an option to play folder |
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| 00:32:42 | BigBambi | advcomp2019: I think he wants to play a single track immediately then go back to the previous playlist |
| 00:32:54 | webguest90 | yea.. and if i told him to play folder MUSIC he played it and just jumped to the file i wanted |
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| 00:33:22 | BigBambi | webguest90: As, I have said, you cannot do that in rockbox, and I have told you the nearest thing to it |
| 00:34:13 | webguest90 | yea tried it and works |
| 00:34:41 | webguest90 | but i see the prob in 2 weeks ^^ my playlist will be 7 times as long as usual ^^ |
| 00:35:03 | BigBambi | use queue next then, that will remove the file once it has played |
| 00:35:12 | webguest90 | but if this is the only option i have to accept ^^ |
| 00:35:17 | BigBambi | And please read the manual, this is all in there |
| 00:35:38 | webguest90 | ok, i've read it some months ago ^^ |
| 00:35:46 | webguest90 | still dont remember |
| 00:35:47 | BigBambi | looks like it is time to read it again then |
| 00:36:06 | webguest90 | well... so it look likes ^^ |
| 00:36:14 | webguest90 | so thanks an good night |
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| 00:50:17 | BigBambi | night all |
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| 01:18:26 | k-man | hi |
| 01:18:53 | k-man | my database always seems to list items more than once |
| 01:19:00 | k-man | anyone else had that problem? |
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| 01:41:12 | goffa | question... does anyone else in here use auto-change directory > random? |
| 01:41:28 | goffa | made a build last night and its no longer working |
| 01:41:35 | goffa | well auto change works.. but its not random |
| 01:42:48 | goffa | i have the click insert patch... dunno if that affects it (just figured i'd mention it in case it does) |
| 01:43:02 | PaulJam_ | goffa: have you run the random_folder_advance plugin? |
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| 01:43:21 | goffa | um... let me look |
| 01:44:38 | goffa | ah... so i need to generate a folder list? |
| 01:45:20 | goffa | working.. thanks PaulJam_ |
| 01:45:27 | PaulJam_ | yes, and you need to regenerate it everytime you add a folder that you want to include |
| 01:45:38 | goffa | ok |
| 01:46:17 | goffa | i probably did that before on the last build.. but that was like october |
| 01:46:22 | goffa | forgot :) |
| 01:47:18 | goffa | saw a directory skip patch today when searching.. going to have to check that out |
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| 01:48:40 | goffa | noticed the flyspray search field on the website is too short (i know you should probably search by number.. but text seems to work well) |
| 01:50:30 | goffa | my night to gripe i guess :) |
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| 02:28:22 | cleaner_ | in win xp, my sandisk e260 isn't getting a drive letter. it just appears as a "portable media player" under Other in My Computer. Can I still use the rockbox utility with it somehow? |
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| 02:31:42 | Llorean | cleaner_: That means it's an MTP device, you need to switch it to MSC mode first. |
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| 02:39:49 | chrism583 | In Windows how do I create a playlist w/ rockbox? |
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| 02:43:20 | crazy_bus | is the rockbox player comparison page correct in saying the sandisk sansa e200 series has 3 times the battery life than the c200's (15 vs 5 hours.) Because I thought they had essentially the same processors in them |
| 02:43:30 | cleaner_ | thanks. now when I select the F: drive and e200 device I get a popup "searching for sansas. No sansa found." |
| 02:45:45 | soap | crazy_bus, do they have exactly the same battery? |
| 02:47:28 | crazy_bus | I don't think so. I thought the e200 had a slightly more powerful one to compensate the bigger screen |
| 02:47:50 | crazy_bus | but certainly not 3 times more powerful |
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| 02:49:25 | saratoga | how exactly is the wpsbuild.pl script called? |
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| 03:12:29 | countrymonkey | I am about to tackle the makevoices.vbs script. May I please know what is the last target ID representing a hw-codec target? |
| 03:12:58 | * | scorche pretends he didnt see "vbs" |
| 03:13:31 | countrymonkey | Please, I need something to do and the rest of the rb community would probably appreciate it. |
| 03:13:31 | cool_walking_ | vbs?? |
| 03:13:47 | cool_walking_ | I wouldn't expect to see that in Rockbox |
| 03:14:03 | countrymonkey | If you remember when all voices were universal, you would know that there was a very handy script to help make voices. |
| 03:14:14 | countrymonkey | and this is a windows script |
| 03:15:26 | countrymonkey | Could my question please be answered? |
| 03:17:44 | krazykit | countrymonkey, please have patience. you've been around here long enough to know that. |
| 03:17:59 | krazykit | to know to have patience in waiting for an answer, i mean. |
| 03:24:40 | countrymonkey | Anyone here? |
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| 03:26:47 | cool_walking_ | Yeah but I don't know the answer |
| 03:26:52 | scorche | countrymonkey: did you read what krazykit just said? |
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| 03:32:30 | countrymonkey | I am working on the rest of what it takes. |
| 03:34:04 | countrymonkey | Forget it. I didn't realise I'd run into a roadblock like the one I just ran into. |
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| 03:35:23 | safetydan | and there I was about to tell him to check the source for target ids |
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| 04:49:30 | PuppiesOnAcid | hey |
| 04:49:38 | PuppiesOnAcid | Doom is confirmed working on 2nd Gen Ipod |
| 04:49:57 | PuppiesOnAcid | it's not pretty, but it functions |
| 04:49:59 | PuppiesOnAcid | and it's playable |
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| 04:51:38 | PuppiesOnAcid | what ist he pplugin needed to make the clicky noises? |
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| 04:53:12 | safetydan | PuppiesOnAcid: what clicky noises? |
| 04:54:55 | Llorean | I think he means the piezo. |
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| 05:08:15 | crzyboyster | PuppiesOnAcid: At first I thought that you were refering to the 2nd gen nano since that's what I usually hear about, but this is the 2nd gen ipod. :D |
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| 05:36:15 | tri170391 | looks like the scrollwheel in the text viewer is reversed |
| 05:36:50 | tri170391 | more precise in the e200 build |
| 05:44:26 | cleaner_ | gave it a second try on my e260. installed and ran great. at one point in the theme browser (w32 install utility) it started taking 99% cpu and I had to restart it, but then it was fine. |
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| 05:57:47 | J-_ | How's the ZVM port coming? |
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| 06:02:45 | Llorean | J-_: It's exactly where the thread in the forums says it is |
| 06:06:39 | J-_ | How many times do you repeat that per day? |
| 06:07:27 | Llorean | As often as people ask questions without searching first. |
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| 06:07:49 | J-_ | That's the spirit. *wink* |
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| 06:10:36 | J-_ | I mean, come on? How are you suppose to get people to use Rockbox, and you're like, "read thread", it's so systematic. "It's doing quite well, we're at this point, and, it won't be done for a while" |
| 06:11:42 | J-_ | But, whatever floats your boat I suppose. |
| 06:12:54 | krazykit | not everyone is familiar with the contents of the thread; it's simpler for you to go look yourself. |
| 06:13:59 | Llorean | J-_: Because "Rockbox" isn't working on the ZVM |
| 06:14:02 | Llorean | People are working on it. |
| 06:14:13 | Llorean | In fact, none of them are core members of the project. |
| 06:14:27 | Llorean | So we only know what's going on when they say "Hey, we got this working now" etc. |
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| 06:19:08 | DogBoy | it's a bit irritating when people use irc as a substitute for doing the footwork themselves |
| 06:19:42 | DogBoy | like they're too busy to do it but expect that other's are not so busy that they won't mind doing it for them |
| 06:22:29 | J-_ | Is development rockbox related? |
| 06:22:39 | scorche | rockbox development |
| 06:22:51 | J-_ | well, whatever |
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| 06:27:47 | safetydan | J-_: the thread is the only source of information since on one on the rockbox team is involved in the port |
| 06:28:03 | scorche | s/on/no |
| 06:31:16 | J-_ | Why are there no rockbox devs involved in the port? |
| 06:33:05 | safetydan | J-_: because none of them own a ZVM |
| 06:33:13 | DogBoy | heh |
| 06:33:22 | DogBoy | seemed like an obvious answer |
| 06:33:49 | Llorean | People work on what they're interested in. It is a "in your spare time, volunteer" project |
| 06:37:03 | J-_ | I know it's a voluntary project, but yeah, anyway. Thanks for the info, and good luck. |
| 06:39:11 | Llorean | But yeah what? |
| 06:41:41 | J-_ | But yeah, who? |
| 06:42:37 | Llorean | Well, I thought you had another point of some sort, with the "but yeah, anyway". |
| 06:43:11 | J-_ | nopers |
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| 10:20:00 | homielowe | Could someone look over my makefile please? http://pastebin.ca/858320 thanks in advance |
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| 10:24:57 | linuxstb | homielowe: Have you looked at this patch - it's very similar to what you're trying to do (it compiles the Rockbox sim to run on a Linux-based motorola phone) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8368 |
| 10:25:04 | linuxstb | Oh well. |
| 10:25:51 | petur | oh... I hadn't noticed that blackhawk released his changes |
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| 10:27:31 | linuxstb | homielowe: Check the logs... |
| 10:28:13 | homielowe | linuxstb:thanks, had to reboot from ubuntu to leopard :) |
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| 10:40:43 | linuxstb | homielowe: Have you read my reply (in the logs)? |
| 10:41:59 | homielowe | linuxstb: Yes I have been using blackhawks diff as a source of my current attempt, just comparing make files now |
| 10:44:26 | linuxstb | homielowe: Also, have you confirmed your iphone toolchain is working correctly - i.e. can you compile anything successfully? |
| 10:45:48 | homielowe | I have succesfully compiled a helloword app, and sdl sands, most or all of the problem is my lack of knowledge :) |
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| 12:02:58 | GodEater | anyone familiar with the album art code besides Nico? |
| 12:05:05 | * | GodEater wonders why there is a strip_extension() implemented in albumart.c, when there's already one in tree.c |
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| 12:13:38 | LinusN | perhaps he didn't know |
| 12:13:52 | pixelma | GodEater: anything against me fixing the space issue in the manual you found yesterday (in case you already made a patch)? |
| 12:14:37 | GodEater | pixelma: oh no - I didn't get round to it sorry |
| 12:14:49 | GodEater | I wouldn't have been able to commit it anyway |
| 12:14:51 | GodEater | :) |
| 12:15:14 | pixelma | will do that then :) |
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| 12:16:46 | tri170391 | The e200 scrollwhell is reversed, rotating it clockwise scroll the text up :( |
| 12:17:31 | Bagder | and the rule of the universe tells it is the other way that is the true way? |
| 12:18:15 | linuxstb | tri170391: Where? |
| 12:18:29 | Bagder | in the text reader? |
| 12:18:36 | tri170391 | the text viewer |
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| 12:19:08 | linuxstb | tri170391: Someone should fix that. |
| 12:19:16 | tri170391 | A qu\uick look at the source shows that BUTTON_SCROLL_LINE_UP is mapped to BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD |
| 12:19:41 | tri170391 | hay cau mo trinh duyet |
| 12:20:02 | tri170391 | sorry, worng window |
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| 12:21:57 | GodEater | don't think he took the hint linuxstb =/ |
| 12:22:45 | Bagder | well, why is rotating in one direction the given correct way? |
| 12:23:02 | * | Bagder never used the text viewer on his sansa... |
| 12:23:20 | linuxstb | I assume it's the opposite to how scrolling in lists works. |
| 12:23:32 | Bagder | aha, that makes sense... |
| 12:23:35 | conando | hm i did.. but it worked "correctly" |
| 12:23:44 | cool_walking_ | clockwise has the feeling of going "forward" |
| 12:23:47 | conando | aprox 3 weeks ago |
| 12:23:48 | cool_walking_ | i.e. down |
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| 12:24:10 | linuxstb | I'm happy to switch the #defines now, but don't own a Sansa... |
| 12:24:25 | conando | hm but was it switched sometime? |
| 12:24:53 | conando | you're talking about the text viewer plugin that's "launched" when you select a .txt file in the file browser, right? |
| 12:24:53 | linuxstb | There was a recent commit which renamed the scroll buttons for the Sansa - I'm assuming it got switched by mistakethen. |
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| 12:25:04 | conando | ah ok, makes sense |
| 12:26:27 | pixelma | I guess that slipped in with the rename of BUTTON_SCROLL_UP/DOWN which was used on Sansa to BUTTON_SCROLL_FWD/BACK |
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| 12:26:48 | pixelma | too slow... |
| 12:29:24 | * | linuxstb commits |
| 12:29:49 | linuxstb | I checked, that commit definitely did change the behaviour. |
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| 12:30:21 | * | linuxstb probably shouldn't just say "Sansa" any more... |
| 12:30:43 | linuxstb | s/probably// |
| 12:31:14 | pixelma | yes, I always get annoyed by people saying "Sansa" and meaning the e200 only ;) |
| 12:32:20 | Bagder | the sansa family is pretty big these days |
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| 12:36:40 | GodEater | anyone think it's worth patching albumart.c to remove it's own strip_extension() and replacing it with calls to the tree.c implementation ? |
| 12:37:49 | markun | I wouldn't mind |
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| 12:42:35 | linuxstb | They look to behave subtly different though, so it's not as simple as changing one call to use the other. |
| 12:43:34 | GodEater | indeed |
| 12:43:46 | linuxstb | e.g. the tree.c doesn't perform the copy if there is no . in the filename, but instead returns a pointer to the original filename. The albumart implementation would return a NULL pointer in that case... |
| 12:44:57 | GodEater | but Nico's code doesn't check for a NULL pointer after the call though |
| 12:45:02 | GodEater | he just assumes it worked |
| 12:45:52 | linuxstb | So things would go bad if the music filename had no extension? |
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| 12:46:12 | GodEater | looks that way |
| 12:46:20 | GodEater | he only uses the call in one place as far as I can see |
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| 12:51:25 | GodEater | I've just built a sim using a patched albumart.c |
| 12:51:27 | GodEater | seems to work ok |
| 12:56:34 | GodEater | works fine on a target too |
| 12:56:37 | GodEater | I'll submit it to FS |
| 12:58:59 | GodEater | FS 8469 |
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| 13:08:25 | preglow | nano battery runtime is still pitiful :/ |
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| 13:11:05 | Llorean | preglow: Have you tried that new patch in the tracker |
| 13:11:06 | Llorean | ? |
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| 13:12:01 | preglow | even with that, i only got 8:40 |
| 13:12:27 | Llorean | But it must be something like two years old now, right? |
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| 13:13:44 | preglow | sure, but i haven't really used it too much |
| 13:14:05 | preglow | i should still do a retailos run, i guess |
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| 13:15:22 | Llorean | Probably a good idea. Li based batteries just don't age well |
| 13:16:52 | preglow | orly now |
| 13:17:05 | preglow | h120 gets nice runtimes still, and that's bloody ages old, and used much to boot |
| 13:18:55 | Llorean | I bet a new battery of the same capacity would show a lot more |
| 13:19:10 | Llorean | :-P |
| 13:20:05 | Llorean | The base runtime of the Nano's pretty miserable anyway, and SVN still gets something like 20% less than that |
| 13:20:47 | preglow | yeah, know |
| 13:20:48 | preglow | i wonder why |
| 13:21:14 | Llorean | Well there's a patch in the tracker that's supposed to bring us pretty close to OF runtimes for PP targets finally |
| 13:21:27 | preglow | 8:40 isn't blose to of runtime |
| 13:21:30 | preglow | close... |
| 13:21:40 | preglow | so nano has worse issues than the other pp targets, it seems |
| 13:21:44 | Llorean | Nah |
| 13:21:51 | Llorean | Nano's actually closer to OF than others, or used to be. |
| 13:21:55 | Llorean | Percentage wise |
| 13:22:14 | preglow | but i'm giving this sucker a good charge now, then we'll see how retailos does |
| 13:22:16 | Llorean | The HD power off brought the rest of the iPods to about where the Nano is. |
| 13:22:23 | preglow | too bad i'll have to bloody monitor that by hand, though |
| 13:22:27 | Llorean | The Nano's only supposed to have about 14 hours when new. |
| 13:22:38 | Llorean | Which would suggest 11.5 or so in Rockbox with a brand new batter. |
| 13:22:40 | Llorean | battery |
| 13:23:32 | preglow | i could whip up some batter and see if that helps too :) |
| 13:24:47 | Llorean | But FS #8379 is suppose to improve battery life a quite large amount |
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| 13:28:28 | * | linuxstb now has a fully charged ipod color, so will start a battery runtime. |
| 13:30:27 | preglow | Llorean: will do a runtime test on svn after retailos |
| 13:30:34 | GodEater | doing a proper comparison between RB runtime and RetailOS runtime on an ipod requires iTunes loaded music presumably ? |
| 13:30:51 | preglow | GodEater: well, yeah |
| 13:30:58 | preglow | or gtkpod or something similar |
| 13:31:05 | preglow | which will be what i'll use, so i hope it works, still |
| 13:31:29 | soap | If that report of 13H on a 5G with an after market battery was truly indicitive, the runtimes have regressed since the early versions of the patch. |
| 13:31:42 | GodEater | preglow: sorry, by iTunes I meant "music loaded in the iTunes manner" |
| 13:32:28 | preglow | GodEater: well, yeah, if not, how would you play your benchmarking music at all? :P |
| 13:32:41 | GodEater | sheer force of will :P |
| 13:32:42 | soap | where there's a will, there's a way |
| 13:32:45 | soap | jynx |
| 13:32:50 | GodEater | you WILL play my music |
| 13:33:04 | linuxstb | soap: Are your power-patch builds up to date? |
| 13:33:09 | preglow | we're talking about an apple device here, it is impervious to any will but jobs' |
| 13:33:17 | soap | linuxstb, as of 5 minutes ago |
| 13:33:43 | linuxstb | Good timing... |
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| 13:34:11 | soap | you'll be the first to test his new 5020 specific patch. |
| 13:34:34 | soap | should quickly know if it works. If it boots - it works! |
| 13:35:03 | linuxstb | It boots... ;) |
| 13:35:21 | soap | good, I can now go to work. ;) |
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| 13:55:16 | preglow | jcollie: good to know, now stop it |
| 13:56:16 | cool_walking_ | does that, but doesn't set /away ? |
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| 13:56:40 | GodEater | most people who do that don't |
| 13:56:57 | GodEater | since they've never bothered finding out there *is* a /away that doesn't spam everyone |
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| 14:25:48 | amiconn | Llorean: hdd poweroff brought the PP5021 ipods (i.e. just the Video) up to what the Nano (and Mini G2) were at. PP5020 is still significantly worse |
| 14:26:07 | amiconn | (but of course better than without hdd poweroff) |
| 14:28:21 | Llorean | Ah |
| 14:28:33 | PuppiesOnAcid | on any given plugin page in the wiki, where do you actually download the plugin? |
| 14:28:45 | GodEater | PuppiesOnAcid: you don't |
| 14:29:00 | GodEater | PuppiesOnAcid: they're all in the rockbox.zip you already downloaded and installed on your player |
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| 14:30:17 | PuppiesOnAcid | ah |
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| 14:32:16 | PaulJam | little question: why is the <untagged> entry in the database not localised? |
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| 14:41:04 | preglow | woah |
| 14:41:11 | preglow | i just found a retailos feature i like |
| 14:41:21 | preglow | ffwd/rew WITH audio |
| 14:42:06 | Llorean | preglow: People have been requesting that for years now. |
| 14:42:12 | Llorean | I believe the H100 retailOS had it too |
| 14:42:19 | preglow | it did, i just forgot it |
| 14:42:25 | preglow | we should have that too :> |
| 14:42:36 | preglow | at least as an option, i like the fact that both are possible with retailos |
| 14:42:43 | preglow | too bad it's a bitch to implement |
| 14:42:49 | Llorean | Really? |
| 14:42:58 | preglow | well, not a bitch, but not trivial either |
| 14:43:06 | Llorean | I bet you could get away with "seek forward X seconds, play 1 second, seek X seconds, play 1 second" type doing it. |
| 14:43:16 | preglow | that's what they're doing, pretty much |
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| 14:49:19 | preglow | retailos charges a tad bit faster than disk mode |
| 14:49:26 | preglow | by tad i mean four times faster |
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| 14:50:29 | |404| | :3 |
| 14:50:59 | |404| | The battery metering in rockbox for x5 really isn't accurate |
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| 14:57:07 | * | amiconn would hate ffwd/rew with audio |
| 14:57:42 | * | LinusN would appreciate it as an option |
| 14:57:45 | * | preglow too |
| 14:57:53 | preglow | i've grown quite used to not having it, but i find i still enjoy using it when ic an |
| 14:58:34 | * | LambdaCalculus37 also thinks it would be good as an option |
| 14:58:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | Would be useful for, say, audio books or language lessons. |
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| 14:59:44 | preglow | or just about anything, if you ask me |
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| 15:10:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb and GodEater: Knock knock! |
| 15:10:27 | GodEater | who's there ? |
| 15:11:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: It's not the evil monkey that lives in your cloest. :) |
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| 15:11:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've landed a Rio Karma from krazykit. Any luck with finding a CD? |
| 15:12:04 | GodEater | thank heavens for that |
| 15:12:10 | GodEater | none so far no :( |
| 15:12:12 | GodEater | however |
| 15:12:21 | GodEater | I *might* be able to get my hands on my old Karma |
| 15:12:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: Groovy. |
| 15:12:31 | GodEater | I've just thought I might have left it at my parents |
| 15:12:36 | GodEater | rather than at my ex-wife's |
| 15:13:51 | GodEater | hmm |
| 15:13:57 | GodEater | which might also mean I have the CD somewhere |
| 15:14:07 | * | GodEater resolves to dig through his loft soon |
| 15:15:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | I just PMed krazykit to ask him to throw the CD into the package if he has it. |
| 15:15:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | If you can't find the CD, I'll just dump it to an ISO and send it off to you. |
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| 15:21:09 | krazykit | LambdaCalculus37, i never had a CD. i got all my karmas used |
| 15:22:37 | Febs | With v10 of the power management patch, my iPod 5G has been running for over 14.5 hours. |
| 15:26:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | krazykit: Crap... guess I'll have to hunt down the CD on eBay or something. :( I'll still take the Karma, though. |
| 15:27:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | Febs: Wow, that's close to (if not better than) the Apple firmware! |
| 15:28:14 | krazykit | LambdaCalculus37, i haven't seen a post on riovolution.org. there or the empeg forums will probably get you people with CDs lying around that the can check. |
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| 15:33:25 | linuxstb | Febs: That's almost respectable ;) |
| 15:33:40 | * | markun would like to have some audible feedback while seeking, but not perse the audio itself |
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| 15:34:13 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: You could try pointing out the terms of the RHEPL to the people distributing the firmware via rioaudio.com ? |
| 15:34:16 | Febs | It's still going. I wonder if I can hit 15 hours? i'm 15 minutes shy of 15 hours right now. |
| 15:34:33 | GodEater | linuxstb: politely of course ;) |
| 15:35:35 | cool_walking_ | I'm getting a checksum error on soap's v11 build |
| 15:36:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | Febs: If it does, we break out the champagne! :P |
| 15:36:51 | PaulJam | Febs: have you done a bench in the OF too? |
| 15:37:00 | Febs | PaulJam: not yet. |
| 15:37:13 | linuxstb | GodEater: Yes, at first... ;) |
| 15:37:37 | Febs | It's times like these that I wish my Gigabeat hadn't died, so I could use that for daily listening and just let the iPod run through tests. |
| 15:37:58 | markun | Febs: what happened to you Gigabeat? |
| 15:38:10 | Febs | I dropped it on a marble floor and killed the hard drive. |
| 15:38:15 | markun | :( |
| 15:38:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ouch. |
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| 15:38:34 | GodEater | Febs: there's still plenty available on ebay for cheap |
| 15:38:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | Poor Gigabeat... |
| 15:38:49 | GodEater | I saw an F40 for $35 the other day |
| 15:38:58 | preglow | 35??? |
| 15:39:01 | GodEater | yep |
| 15:39:06 | preglow | sheeeyat |
| 15:39:33 | GodEater | makes my $99 (including shipping to the UK) seem expensive ;) |
| 15:39:43 | Febs | GodEater: I've been following eBay auctions from time to time and will probably pick up another one. Ideally, I'll find one with a broken display or something similar but a working hard drive. |
| 15:40:00 | Febs | Though as cheap as they are, I really don't need to look too hard for a broken one. |
| 15:40:12 | GodEater | Febs: for $35 I'd be reckless enough to buy a whole new one ;) |
| 15:40:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | Hell, I'd buy one for that cheap, too. |
| 15:40:41 | Febs | :) It's amazing that you can buy a new one for less than the cost of a replacement drive. |
| 15:41:13 | GodEater | yep |
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| 15:41:22 | markun | or replacement LCD |
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| 15:41:49 | * | GodEater wonders how hard a V port would be once the S is up and running |
| 15:41:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | As much as I'd love to have an iAUDIO X5 in my hands, I could just get a Gigabeat and call it a day. |
| 15:42:05 | GodEater | don't think you'd regret it |
| 15:42:12 | GodEater | I <3 my gigabeat |
| 15:42:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: I reckon that since the V is so close to the S, it may not be hard at all. |
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| 15:42:29 | GodEater | it would probably need another lcd driver and button driver |
| 15:43:06 | * | GodEater wants to avoid turning into toffe mark II though. With a drawer full of gigabeats... |
| 15:43:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | When markun showed me his Gigabeat, I thought that it was really a cool little player. |
| 15:43:53 | markun | I flew all the way to New York for just that :) |
| 15:44:06 | GodEater | hehe |
| 15:44:10 | GodEater | I thought you went for the beer ;) |
| 15:44:26 | markun | pssst, don't wake up petur |
| 15:44:36 | petur | too late ;) |
| 15:44:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oops. ;) |
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| 15:47:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Anyway, I'm going to test the Power Management patch on my iPod color. |
| 15:49:34 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: I'm running a FLAC test on my ipod color now, so an MP3 test would be useful... |
| 15:50:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: I can give you MP3 and Vorbis. |
| 15:50:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll also try it on my c240. |
| 15:50:25 | linuxstb | Have you done tests in the past? Most useful would be if you had something to compare it with. |
| 15:51:28 | linuxstb | My last FLAC test was 7h 23 minutes, and 6h 50m for MP3. Apple quote 15 hours for MP3.... |
| 15:51:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'm going to battery bench my c240 with an official build first. So I'm going to update to r16096 on that. |
| 15:51:43 | linuxstb | (I haven't tested my ipod in the Apple firmware yet though...) |
| 15:52:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | My iPod color has a bad battery that only gets about 5 hours in Rockbox and around 7 in the OF. |
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| 15:53:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | My c240 gets about 6 hours in Rockbox. |
| 15:53:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Never bothered testing the Sansa OF though... |
| 15:55:13 | linuxstb | Hmm, this isn't good - I've just looked at my ipod, and it's down to 19% battery life after about 2 hours - the hard disk seems to be constantly spinning.... |
| 15:56:02 | linuxstb | It spins down, then immediately spins back up. After about 5 seconds, it spins down again... |
| 15:56:09 | linuxstb | repeat. |
| 15:56:46 | linuxstb | It does this even with playback stopped... |
| 15:57:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | Febs: Did it do it? Did it hit 15 hours yet? |
| 15:58:01 | Llorean | LambdaCalculus37: Only 6? |
| 15:58:26 | Febs | LambdaCalculus37: yup, still going. |
| 15:58:28 | Llorean | I played through a 2 hour movie and had "78%" remaining. I don't know how well the % maps to the real battery life, but it leads me to expect more than 6 hours from music. |
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| 16:00:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | Febs: w00t! :) |
| 16:00:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: On a c240? |
| 16:00:37 | Llorean | c250 |
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| 16:01:43 | dancek | Hi, I'm using rockbox on an iPod Video 60GB and it totally froze while trying to play a non-standard WAV file. Anybody know how I can force the iPod to shut down? I'd rather not wait 12 hours for the battery to empty... |
| 16:01:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rockbox Info on my c240 shows 100% battery (just charged) and reads 5h 10m remaining. |
| 16:02:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: How much does the OF give you? |
| 16:02:17 | Llorean | Haven't tested the OF. |
| 16:02:23 | Llorean | And really, REALLY don't believe the "Time remaining" |
| 16:02:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | dancek: Press and hold MENU+SELECT until it resets. |
| 16:02:25 | Febs | dancek: press the Menu and Select buttons simultaneously and hold them until the player reboots. |
| 16:02:40 | dancek | LambdaCalculus37, Febs, that doesn't work (it usually does) |
| 16:02:53 | Febs | Do it again. It will always work. |
| 16:03:05 | Llorean | dancek: Try turning hold On then Off again first, before doing it. |
| 16:03:09 | Febs | Try turning the hold switch on and then off again, and then try again. |
| 16:03:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: I know the "Time Remaning" is never accurate. |
| 16:03:18 | * | Febs needs to be slightly faster. |
| 16:03:47 | dancek | Thanks, it worked :) |
| 16:04:24 | dancek | I tried it a couple of times but didn't think of flipping the Hold switch, how silly of me... |
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| 16:07:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | dancek: Can you tell us what you mean by "non-standard" WAV? |
| 16:07:53 | pixelma | I got about 8 hours on my c250 when I did a battery bench quite a while ago with Rockbox but the percentage is quite off - I remember one occasion where it showed 30% and after about half an hour the unit turned off due to low battery |
| 16:08:56 | pixelma | (8 hours with a 192kbps mp3 playlist) |
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| 16:11:50 | * | LambdaCalculus37 readies his c240 for an official bench test |
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| 16:13:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | Morning, scorche|w! |
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| 16:13:51 | dancek | LambdaCalculus37, I'm not quite sure, it's something with 4bit samples. If you really wanna know I can take a look. |
| 16:14:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | dancek: Yes, please. Because I have a little trick I want to show you. |
| 16:20:44 | iwantanimac | I've noticed a bit of a bug. At least on the iriver H10 5GB, rockbox shuts down with the "Battery Empty - Recharge" message even when plugged into mains power if the battery is absent or at the power-down level. Is this desired behaviour? |
| 16:22:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | iwantanimac: Sounds like my friend here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14562.0 |
| 16:24:17 | iwantanimac | No, that seems like a hardware related issue, |
| 16:25:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | How long has it been doing that? |
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| 16:27:32 | iwantanimac | it appears it always has. But at least since about halfway through last year. |
| 16:29:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | I haven't got an H10, so I can't really help on that front. But that behavior does sound very strange. |
| 16:29:43 | iwantanimac | i'm just wondering if i submit a bug report or a feature request about this. it appears to be an oversight, but i'm not sure. It says in the power management code that Rockbox is intended to no shut down if the charger is plugged in... |
| 16:29:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Is there an H10 owner in the channel? |
| 16:30:01 | petur | yes |
| 16:30:17 | petur | file a report in the tracker |
| 16:30:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Always do what the dev orders. :) |
| 16:31:27 | iwantanimac | a bug report? |
| 16:31:39 | iwantanimac | doing so... |
| 16:34:14 | iwantanimac | hm.. i'm trying to log onto the tracker, but i keep getting an "Error #23: User or group not enabled for login." |
| 16:34:54 | Llorean | Have you registered for the tracker? |
| 16:34:55 | linuxstb | File a bug report about the tracker... |
| 16:35:09 | GodEater | :) |
| 16:35:19 | iwantanimac | i have registered and used it in the past. |
| 16:35:37 | iwantanimac | has there been an update to flyspray which might have triggered a lockout? |
| 16:37:14 | Llorean | Shouldn't be |
| 16:37:59 | iwantanimac | right well then i;ve got no idea. I tried changing password, didn't fix my login, though. |
| 16:39:31 | petur | works fine here |
| 16:40:33 | petur | and Zagor is not here... |
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| 16:44:22 | iwantanimac | oh well. Ill try tomorrow. It's not essential, but it's something i'd appreciate. At least then you can bring your player home, battery dead, whack it in the dock and start listening straight away rather than waiting for it to charge up first. |
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| 16:55:18 | PuppiesOnAcid` | ok |
| 16:55:24 | PuppiesOnAcid` | i have rockbox on my 2nd gen ipod |
| 16:55:33 | PuppiesOnAcid` | when i hold down the pause/play button, it just restarts my ipod |
| 16:55:36 | PuppiesOnAcid` | ilike the screen will go off |
| 16:55:38 | PuppiesOnAcid` | then the apple icon |
| 16:55:40 | PuppiesOnAcid` | then rockbox! |
| 16:56:11 | GodEater | PuppiesOnAcid`: correct |
| 16:56:15 | PaulJam_ | afaik it isn't possible to power off the 1. and 2 gen ipods |
| 16:56:17 | GodEater | you have to boot into apple os to shut down |
| 16:56:30 | PuppiesOnAcid` | haha |
| 16:56:32 | PuppiesOnAcid` | how retarded |
| 16:56:37 | markun | indeed |
| 16:56:58 | markun | anoying ipods with their secret hardware |
| 16:57:06 | PuppiesOnAcid` | but man |
| 16:57:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | But proper shutdown hasn't been implemented onto the 1G and 2G iPods. |
| 16:57:16 | PuppiesOnAcid` | maybe i should write it |
| 16:57:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: Amen to that. :) |
| 16:57:21 | PuppiesOnAcid` | man |
| 16:57:35 | PuppiesOnAcid` | is there a plugin to emulate the clicking noise? |
| 16:57:58 | petur | I think there's a patch |
| 16:58:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | PuppiesOnAcid: The piezo driver to make the litttle clicky sounds on the scroll wheel? No, nothing of the sort. |
| 16:58:03 | markun | PuppiesOnAcid`: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5111 |
| 16:58:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Except for that... :) |
| 16:59:38 | PuppiesOnAcid` | i'm not fucking with a patch |
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| 17:00:40 | markun | ? |
| 17:00:55 | PuppiesOnAcid` | well for one |
| 17:00:56 | PuppiesOnAcid` | i'm at work |
| 17:01:00 | PuppiesOnAcid` | and i have no firewire here |
| 17:01:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | Then try it at home. |
| 17:01:21 | amiconn | PuppiesOnAcid: Rockbox will learn how to suspend 1st and 2nd gen ipods. It's just not done yet |
| 17:01:22 | markun | are you in a hurry to get piezo clicks out of your player? |
| 17:01:34 | PuppiesOnAcid` | yes |
| 17:01:41 | markun | amiconn: does anyone know how to do it? |
| 17:01:43 | PuppiesOnAcid` | but i have to wait until i get home to load antyhing on rockbox |
| 17:02:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | PuppiesOnAcid: So do the patching at home. Just read the IRC logs to get markun's link again, or write down the FS ticket number and search for it on Flyspray. |
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| 17:04:20 | PuppiesOnAcid` | there should be a way to edit artist names and stuff in rockbox |
| 17:04:43 | Llorean | Are you volunteering to write one then? |
| 17:04:55 | PuppiesOnAcid` | could a plugin do that? |
| 17:05:01 | markun | sure |
| 17:05:02 | Llorean | If someone wrote one, sure. |
| 17:05:12 | PuppiesOnAcid` | ok |
| 17:05:21 | PuppiesOnAcid` | when it's listing out albums/artists |
| 17:05:24 | markun | I was thinking about a replaygain plugin, for that we need tag writing support as well |
| 17:05:28 | PuppiesOnAcid` | is it pulling that from the iTunes DB file? |
| 17:05:38 | markun | no, just from the tags |
| 17:05:47 | PuppiesOnAcid` | so we just need a tag editor? |
| 17:05:57 | markun | yes, 'just' a tag editor |
| 17:06:38 | Llorean | Remember that Rockbox supports a lot of tag formats, and it'd need to basically handle all of them. You'd probably want to figure out how to use the existing metadata parsers, at least |
| 17:06:52 | PuppiesOnAcid` | no shit |
| 17:07:26 | Llorean | Well, since you thought it used the iTunesDB, it seemed somewhat likely you might not know it ran on non-iPod devices, for example |
| 17:07:37 | markun | Llorean: well, maybe we can start by supporting just a few formats and show a message for unsopported files |
| 17:07:58 | Llorean | markun: Well the code already exists to read every supported tag format, anyway. |
| 17:08:59 | Llorean | But yeah, starting with the most common metadata types probably wouldn't be bad. ID3, Vorbis Comment, and MP4 tags to start with, I'd imagine. |
| 17:09:17 | markun | I hope id3.c can one day be moved to apps/metadata |
| 17:09:17 | linuxstb | Only? ;) |
| 17:09:33 | Llorean | Well, there's already an ID3 editor of some sort somewhere in the tracker |
| 17:11:30 | linuxstb | Regarding replaygain, I think it would be most useful if Rockbox could "auto-tag" - i.e. add the metadata whilst playing the files. A plugin seems a bit pointless. |
| 17:11:41 | * | Llorean agrees |
| 17:11:48 | PuppiesOnAcid` | yeah but like |
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| 17:11:53 | PuppiesOnAcid` | in my library i have Bjork |
| 17:11:54 | Llorean | Just an option "Add if not present" |
| 17:12:00 | PuppiesOnAcid` | and then Bjork with the two dots above the o |
| 17:12:00 | markun | a plugin is nice too, for use in the sim |
| 17:12:15 | markun | I use vbrfix in the sim too on my files at home for example |
| 17:12:15 | * | LambdaCalculus37 agrees |
| 17:12:29 | linuxstb | You could just write an app to do it, borrowing the Rockbox metadata parsers... |
| 17:12:41 | Llorean | linuxstb: Another idea. We support "metadata in external files" in a sense, by way of .cue. |
| 17:12:43 | PuppiesOnAcid` | yeah, but i want to be able to do it ON my ipod |
| 17:13:02 | Llorean | We could also add song.extension.metadata files to allow tagging (and replaygaining) of "untaggable" formats. |
| 17:13:02 | PuppiesOnAcid` | is there documentation for the rockbox text editor? |
| 17:13:12 | PuppiesOnAcid` | like the part when you're selecting characters |
| 17:13:15 | PuppiesOnAcid` | i don't know how to backspace |
| 17:13:19 | Llorean | PuppiesOnAcid`: Try the manual. |
| 17:13:24 | PuppiesOnAcid` | Llorean: doesn't say there |
| 17:13:39 | Llorean | The virtual keyboard keymap should be covered there. |
| 17:13:50 | Llorean | Is it not covered at all, or just not the backspace? |
| 17:14:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Here's what's listed on the manual: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod1g2g/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-2050009.4.10 |
| 17:14:44 | PuppiesOnAcid` | ah nvm |
| 17:15:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | PuppiesOnAcid: The virtual keyboard entry: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod1g2g/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-420004.1.3 |
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| 17:17:39 | PuppiesOnAcid` | gotcha |
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| 17:20:28 | dancek | LambdaCalculus37, you asked earlier about the wav file. It turns out to be IMA ADPCM. |
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| 17:23:09 | webguest61 | hi is the current bleeding edge stable ?, I dont see any notification as to whether the daily or current is stable. |
| 17:23:53 | webguest61 | I dont follow logs, no time, to determine which is stable |
| 17:24:35 | Llorean | Both the daily and current are automatically generated. There's no special "stable" version |
| 17:24:43 | dancek | webguest61, just try it. There's no stable release. |
| 17:25:13 | webguest61 | so how doI know if recent activity has broken anything |
| 17:25:29 | dancek | trial and error |
| 17:25:35 | webguest61 | I really dont have thew time to fiddle with this stuff |
| 17:25:39 | Llorean | Then don't. |
| 17:25:51 | webguest61 | just need a working build |
| 17:26:02 | Llorean | Then pick one, and hope, then if you find one, don't upgrade. |
| 17:26:25 | Llorean | Odds are pretty good you'll pick a working one, we haven't had any major "it doesn't work at all" bug reports any time recently |
| 17:26:28 | webguest61 | Im a user of your product not a fiddler |
| 17:26:43 | PuppiesOnAcid` | are there any docs for plugin developers? |
| 17:26:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | dancek: You mean this? http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=IMA_ADPCM |
| 17:26:45 | Llorean | Yes, well as it's not in a "release" state yet, you're a user by choice. |
| 17:28:11 | webguest61 | I think ill stick to my current build, it works, so there is no reson to upgrade, thanks |
| 17:28:15 | dancek | LambdaCalculus37, I mean compression code 0x0011 in the RIFF header which corresponds to "IMA ADPCM". I don't know about this stuff, I just hexdump'd it and looked at some docs. |
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| 17:28:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | dancek: Well, anyway, let's get started. Grab your iPod. Go navigate to the file, but don't play it yet! |
| 17:30:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | Press and hold SELECT on it until the context menu comes up, then navigate to "Open with...", select, and find "wav2wv". |
| 17:33:15 | dancek | It says "incompatible wav file" |
| 17:33:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Crap! |
| 17:33:39 | dancek | My rockbox is a build from November or so. |
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| 17:34:20 | dancek | No prob though, I already encoded the problematic files to vorbis on my computer. |
| 17:34:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | It was worth a shot. :( |
| 17:34:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | Does the Vorbis play correctly, at least? |
| 17:34:46 | dancek | Yes, it does. |
| 17:35:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | I don't know very much about how IMA ADPCM files are structured, so my only guess is that it does something just slightly different from a regular ADPCM WAV file. |
| 17:35:56 | * | LambdaCalculus37 needs to read up more on this subject |
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| 17:37:19 | dancek | Are you a rockbox developer? |
| 17:38:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | No. Just another user who took the time to learn how to use it, and use it well enough to guide others. |
| 17:39:27 | dancek | Ok. I think it might be worthwhile to check the header more thoroughly before playing in order not to freeze... I'm not a C programmer, might write a bug report though. |
| 17:39:48 | dancek | Anyways, thanks for the help, gotta go now. |
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| 17:40:43 | PaulJam_ | according to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7241#comment15515 rockbox should support IMA ADPCM, maybe there is something else wrong with the file. |
| 17:42:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | PaulJam_: We should ask the devs about IMA ADPCM support. |
| 17:43:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Since you commented on that FS entry, do you know if IMA ADPCM support is indeed in Rockbox or not? |
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| 18:00:14 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: All I know is what I wrote there - that from a quick read of apps/codecs/wav.c, it appears to support IMA/DVI ADPCM. |
| 18:00:27 | linuxstb | (i.e. format 0x0011) |
| 18:01:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | So it looks like dancek's WAV really was problematic. |
| 18:01:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | Good call, PaulJam_ |
| 18:02:55 | PaulJam_ | well, rockbox still shouldn't crash in that case. |
| 18:05:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Thanks for the info, linuxstb. |
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| 18:07:02 | linuxstb | I can't remember who wrote that codec - it has my name as the (C), but I just wrote a simple initial codec, someone else (not a core dev) almost completely rewrote it, and added support for those other formats. |
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| 18:12:04 | theroue | Once Rockbox is installed how do I boot into Apple's proprietary firmware without uninstalling Rockbox? |
| 18:13:12 | Domonoky | theroue: there is a button combo for this, take a look into the manual.. |
| 18:13:25 | theroue | Yes I know there's a button combo but I forget it. |
| 18:13:31 | theroue | Menu+Up or something? |
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| 18:13:41 | Domonoky | its in the manual... *hint* |
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| 18:14:17 | theroue | Right...I just would've thought it'd be easier for you or someone else who knew to say which 2 buttons |
| 18:14:58 | Domonoky | theroue: it depends on the target... so its easier if *you* take a look into the manual.. |
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| 18:16:04 | theroue | 5th gen video...I'm at the manual for it but am unsure of which section. |
| 18:16:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | theroue: Click hold on immediately after turning on your iPod. |
| 18:17:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's the same for every iPod model. |
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| 18:24:06 | linuxstb | Or alternatively, turn your ipod on by pressing MENU, and keep MENU pressed. |
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| 18:43:49 | rixon | Hi, does "Sansa c200 series" mean c250 is supported? |
| 18:44:22 | PaulJam_ | yes (but not the v2) |
| 18:44:36 | rixon | Yea, that much I understood. Thanks. :) |
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| 18:45:16 | rixon | I bought a samsung yp-k3 and this MTP stuff is driving me crazy |
| 18:46:47 | nanok | is that mtp as in "usb mass storage is not cool, let's invent something else"? |
| 18:47:45 | rixon | yea, and as in "lets build drm in to it and make windows media player 11 a requirement plus three other proprietary programs" |
| 18:48:59 | nanok | rixon: is samsung doing this? damn, i had a better oppinion regarding them.. |
| 18:49:21 | rixon | MTP is microsofts doing, but Samsung chose it for this player yes. |
| 18:49:35 | nanok | i had a similar wonderfull experience with a sony minidisc. and i am a linux user, so imagine that.. |
| 18:49:44 | krazykit | please keep in mind this is an on-topic channel |
| 18:50:00 | rixon | There is a Korean firmware upgrade but you can only upgrade to it if you've got 3.05 already, mine's got 3.09 o_O |
| 18:50:01 | nanok | krazykit: right, sorry |
| 18:50:17 | nanok | rixon: #rockbox-community |
| 18:50:18 | rixon | (The upgrade gives it USB mass storage support) |
| 18:50:31 | rixon | nanok: huh? |
| 18:50:33 | nanok | rixon: this is more like a devel channel, as krazykit kindly reminded us |
| 18:50:40 | rixon | Oh, sorry. |
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| 18:51:41 | krazykit | well, this is the development and user support channel. if you haven't read the guidelines in the topic, i'd urge you to do so :) |
| 18:52:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Besides the fact that we don't even support any Samsung devices yet. :) |
| 18:52:50 | nanok | LambdaCalculus37: btw, they are mostly sigmatel, right? |
| 18:54:06 | rixon | LambdaCalculus37: well the point was I might plan to change it, but I'll shut up about off-topic now. *ducks* |
| 18:54:52 | * | LambdaCalculus37 picks up a slice of lemon wrapped around large golden brick to throw at the next off-topic speaker |
| 18:55:32 | * | nanok is quiet as a fish |
| 18:55:45 | theroue | You know,I really love the title track on Muse's debut album Showbiz. |
| 18:56:06 | * | LambdaCalculus37 throws the brick at theroue |
| 18:56:09 | * | nanok sits back and watches the brik fly.. |
| 18:56:35 | * | theroue catches it,eats the lemon,and runs away with some motha fuckin Au! |
| 18:56:53 | nanok | LambdaCalculus37: damn it, man, that hurt. get your routing protocols together.. |
| 18:57:03 | nanok | :P |
| 18:58:16 | theroue | But really folks...time to smoke a bowl and go to programming class. It's been lovely. |
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| 18:58:50 | ally_xoxo | is installing rockbox easy? |
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| 18:59:15 | Domonoky | ally_xoxo: yes |
| 18:59:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: It is. |
| 18:59:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | What device? |
| 18:59:30 | ally_xoxo | for ipod :P |
| 18:59:35 | ally_xoxo | about how long does it take? |
| 18:59:38 | Domonoky | all devices are easy, just use rbutil :-) |
| 18:59:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: I got it done in 10 minutes. Did it the manual way. |
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| 19:00:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Here's the link to rbutil: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 19:00:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Which iPod model? |
| 19:01:50 | ally_xoxo | its the ipod video |
| 19:01:55 | ally_xoxo | i belive its the 4th generation/ |
| 19:02:10 | ally_xoxo | has the click wheel on it |
| 19:02:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | No, the iPod video is a 5th Generation iPod. |
| 19:02:13 | Domonoky | ipod video is 5the and 5.5th generation.. |
| 19:02:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod_5th_Generation_white_rotated.png |
| 19:02:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IPod_classic_cropped.png |
| 19:03:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or perhaps even like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod4g.JPG |
| 19:04:50 | ally_xoxo | yes |
| 19:04:52 | ally_xoxo | actually like this |
| 19:04:56 | ally_xoxo | http://danceforme.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/ipod-video-black.jpg |
| 19:05:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Cool, then you're set to travel. :) |
| 19:05:24 | ally_xoxo | i bought my ipod in 2006 |
| 19:05:33 | Domonoky | ally_xoxo: just rbutil on it, it will tell which it is... (and wont work on the classic) |
| 19:05:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | And here's the manual for the iPod video: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html |
| 19:06:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | Domonoky: I was making sure it was indeed a video. Some people seem to be confusing the Classic with the video, especially on the forums. |
| 19:07:20 | ally_xoxo | how do you like your rockbox? |
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| 19:07:44 | ally_xoxo | installing rockbox from ubuntu, is that okay? |
| 19:07:51 | preglow | of course |
| 19:07:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Yes, it's perfect. |
| 19:08:08 | ally_xoxo | great |
| 19:08:14 | ally_xoxo | i've been on linux for 48 hours |
| 19:08:16 | ally_xoxo | still learning |
| 19:08:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | As for Rockbox, I would never have given my iPod a second thought if it hadn't been for Rockbox. |
| 19:08:22 | ally_xoxo | its kinda hard |
| 19:08:29 | Domonoky | ally_xoxo: beware, the linux version of rbutil (only 1.0.2 aviable) has a big bug !! |
| 19:08:37 | ally_xoxo | oh no |
| 19:08:51 | linuxstb | Domonoky: Do you build the Linux binaries, or does bluebrother? |
| 19:09:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: The manual has a link to download iPodpatcher for Linux, so you can do it the manual way if need be. |
| 19:09:05 | Domonoky | dont use the buttons on the first tab of rbutil, use the install options on the second tab of rbutil 1.0.2 |
| 19:09:41 | Domonoky | bluebrother build the last liny rbutil binary.. i dont have the right setup for it ( i generate windows version) :-) |
| 19:09:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | And Linux help can be had by Googling "The Linux Documentation Project", or visiting the page for your distro. |
| 19:10:08 | nanok | LambdaCalculus37: same here, i had a sigmatel i liked a lot, but i just had to have rockbox, only reason for which i bought the sansa |
| 19:10:30 | * | Domonoky would be really greatfull if somebody could generate a new static linux binary of rbutil.. |
| 19:11:00 | ally_xoxo | lambdaCalculus37 |
| 19:11:14 | ally_xoxo | what is the easiest way for a beginner like me |
| 19:11:27 | Domonoky | ally_xoxo: you can also just use the manual way to install rockbox, it isnt hard either.. |
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| 19:13:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: The manual will explain what you need to do. What Linux distro are you using, by the way? |
| 19:14:07 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 19:14:16 | ally_xoxo | hopefully i can have it installed in 20 minutes ! |
| 19:14:56 | Domonoky | ally_xoxo: sure, it only a matter of running a small tool, and unzipping a file to your ipod.. |
| 19:15:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: What size of iPod video are you using? 30, 60, or 80? |
| 19:15:55 | ally_xoxo | 30GB |
| 19:16:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | Download this: http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip and unzip it into the root of your iPod. |
| 19:16:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | And you still didn't tell me what distro of Linux you have. :) |
| 19:17:31 | ally_xoxo | im using ubuntu distro |
| 19:17:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Okay, open a terminal window. |
| 19:17:57 | BigBambi | 19:07 <ally_xoxo> installing rockbox from ubuntu, is that okay? |
| 19:18:17 | BigBambi | :) |
| 19:18:18 | * | LambdaCalculus37 needs to get his eyes checked :) |
| 19:19:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Here's iPodpatcher for Linux: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/linux32x86/ipodpatcher |
| 19:19:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | In the terminal, you can type wget, then copy that link right after it. |
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| 19:21:49 | ally_xoxo | thank you LambdaCalculus37 |
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| 19:22:02 | ally_xoxo | what does that patcher do? |
| 19:22:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: We're going to get to that. Is it in your home folder? |
| 19:22:28 | ally_xoxo | its on my deskstop |
| 19:22:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | Copy it into your home folder. |
| 19:23:30 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 19:23:35 | ally_xoxo | you mean extract? |
| 19:24:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | No, copy the file itself. It's a binary... an executeable, if you will. |
| 19:25:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Once you do that, go into the terminal and type sudo chmod +x ipodpatcher, and give it your password when it asks. |
| 19:25:37 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 19:25:40 | ally_xoxo | im in my home dir |
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| 19:26:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Look right above for the next instructions. |
| 19:26:29 | asn | LambdaCalculus37: deleting the .rockbox folder, won't uninstall rockbox right? You have to also uninstall the bootloader? |
| 19:26:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Yes, that's correct. |
| 19:26:51 | asn | Is there a way to uninstall the bootloader "manually"? |
| 19:26:58 | asn | or do I have to use ipodpatcher or Rockbox Utility? |
| 19:27:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: What device? |
| 19:27:08 | asn | Generally speaking |
| 19:27:11 | asn | iPod 5G for exmaple |
| 19:27:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | asn: Never mind. Use either one. |
| 19:27:25 | asn | No, I'm just wondering if there is a way to do it manually |
| 19:27:26 | Domonoky | asn: depends on the target, |
| 19:27:45 | asn | I see |
| 19:27:46 | Domonoky | for ipods you need ipodpatcher/rbutil, or restore it with itunes.. |
| 19:27:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: How far are you now with the installation? |
| 19:28:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Because we're at the last stretch here. |
| 19:28:47 | ally_xoxo | i cant get the next instructions |
| 19:28:56 | ally_xoxo | oh |
| 19:28:58 | ally_xoxo | i see it now |
| 19:29:27 | ally_xoxo | lamdbacalculus37 |
| 19:29:32 | ally_xoxo | give me a sec |
| 19:29:38 | ally_xoxo | i got a problem with ndiswrapper |
| 19:29:39 | ally_xoxo | hold up |
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| 20:37:56 | Febs | soap, your iPod video 64 MB build is giving me a bad checksum. |
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| 20:38:05 | Subliminaut | Hey all |
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| 20:38:54 | Subliminaut | little rockbox issue on my ipod 5g; when I load a theme and then hit Menu at the 'while playing screen', it defaults to some other font than the one the theme had loaded |
| 20:39:06 | Subliminaut | screws up my WPS layout badly until I re-load the theme |
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| 20:39:25 | Subliminaut | any ideas why? Doesn't seem to matter what theme I've loaded, they all do this |
| 20:39:48 | PaulJam_ | Subliminaut: are you using an official current build? |
| 20:42:45 | Subliminaut | aye |
| 20:42:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | Subliminaut: Which theme? |
| 20:43:24 | Subliminaut | currently, dosbox |
| 20:43:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | I was using that theme for quite a long time until I switched to Cabbie 2.0 for Album Art. |
| 20:44:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | Clear your settings and try reloading it again. |
| 20:44:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | I find it helps sometimes. |
| 20:46:32 | Subliminaut | Where can I clear settings? |
| 20:46:45 | Subliminaut | I liked the original, near-monochrome cabbie better :) |
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| 20:48:57 | Subliminaut | Nah, it still reverts to some other font when I use that screen |
| 20:49:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Turn your iPod off, then turn it back on again. Click the hold switch ON just as the backlight turns on. |
| 20:49:48 | Subliminaut | okay |
| 20:49:59 | Subliminaut | to boot to standard ipod firmware? |
| 20:50:43 | Subliminaut | Oh, I see, I did it and it says Cleared |
| 20:50:47 | Subliminaut | cool, let's see what that gets me |
| 20:51:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Reload DOSblue and then try playing a song. |
| 20:54:03 | Subliminaut | STILL does it |
| 20:55:25 | PaulJam_ | Subliminaut: what is the exact version number shown under System=>Rockbox Info? |
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| 20:56:51 | ally_xoxo | hey lambdaCalculus37 |
| 20:56:56 | ally_xoxo | sorry, I am back |
| 20:58:21 | Subliminaut | Lemme check, and thanks for helping |
| 20:58:59 | ally_xoxo | im new to rockbox |
| 20:59:05 | ally_xoxo | trying to set up my ipod to rockbox |
| 20:59:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | We're at the last step. |
| 20:59:34 | | Nick Arathis|afk is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A57E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:59:40 | Subliminaut | r16096-080117 |
| 20:59:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | Did you do sudo chmod +x ipodpatcher as I instructed? |
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| 21:00:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Be right back. |
| 21:00:36 | * | LambdaCalculus37 will be back |
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| 21:03:50 | PaulJam_ | Hmm, thats the most recent version. i have no idea what could be wrong. |
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| 21:15:53 | ally_xoxo | need help getting started with rockbox |
| 21:16:03 | BigBambi | What in particular |
| 21:16:11 | * | BigBambi hasn't got his psychic hat on |
| 21:16:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | ally_xoxo: Did you do the chmod instruction I gave you earlier? |
| 21:16:30 | ally_xoxo | i lost the log to that my wireless gave me probs |
| 21:16:45 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: The instructions are in the manual |
| 21:16:47 | | Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 21:16:49 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 21:16:53 | ally_xoxo | let me read it real quick |
| 21:17:04 | BigBambi | If you have any problem with them, please ask, but we do ask you read it first |
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| 21:17:54 | PaulJam_ | btw, the logs can be found here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ |
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| 21:20:52 | * | jcollie is away... |
| 21:20:58 | | Nick jcollie is now known as jcollie_away (n=jcollie@161.210.6.204) |
| 21:21:09 | BigBambi | jcollie_away: Stop doing that |
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| 21:27:17 | ally_xoxo | hey need some help |
| 21:27:22 | ally_xoxo | im on ubuntu |
| 21:27:27 | ally_xoxo | i need Linux m1.0.2 / r15191 http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/rbutilqt-v1.0.2.tar.bz2 |
| 21:27:32 | ally_xoxo | how can i open that |
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| 21:27:40 | BigBambi | It is compressed |
| 21:27:50 | MethoS- | over cmdline with tar |
| 21:28:03 | BigBambi | Or ubuntu will open it automatically from the gui |
| 21:28:11 | BigBambi | With something like archive manager |
| 21:28:12 | GodEater | when did #rockbox become #teach-me-to-use-ubuntu ? |
| 21:28:12 | MethoS- | if you have KDE, you can use ark |
| 21:28:19 | * | BigBambi forgets the exact name |
| 21:29:30 | * | ender` yawns |
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| 21:35:06 | * | scorche|w taps his foot waiting for jcollie_away to come back |
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| 21:36:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: I wish I knew the answer to that. :) |
| 21:36:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | I wonder if that's an actual channel, though. :P |
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| 21:55:54 | Casainho | hello Rockbox people |
| 21:56:19 | Casainho | I am looking a way to attach files on TWiki pages... how can I do that? :-) |
| 21:56:41 | scorche|w | jcollie: can you please stop changing your name to _away?...it is getting annoying |
| 21:56:45 | GodEater | Casainho: with the "attach" link at the bottom of the page |
| 21:57:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | Time to go home now... bye everyone! |
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| 21:57:51 | pixelma | scorche: not only the nick change - the "action" is annoying too |
| 21:57:57 | Casainho | GodEater: I can't see that link :-( |
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| 21:58:31 | scorche|w | jcollie: see pixelma's comment as well :) |
| 21:58:34 | Casainho | GodEater: I just have the "Formatting help:" |
| 21:59:12 | Casainho | GodEater: is not because of permissions? |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:16 | pixelma | Casainho: it's next to the "edit" link, not on the site you're editing (so you either attach or edit a page) |
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| 22:00:55 | * | amiconn wonders what's so annoying about nick changes |
| 22:01:04 | amiconn | I agree regarding the action though |
| 22:01:44 | scorche|w | they typically arent that annoying, but when done often... |
| 22:01:49 | Casainho | pixelma: thank you, I got it now :-) thank you both :-) |
| 22:02:19 | Casainho | another question, where sould I uplod datasheets? - in the same page that is used or on some general page for datasheets? |
| 22:02:50 | scorche|w | i assume these are publically accessible datasheets? |
| 22:02:58 | amiconn | There is a general page for datasheets - but that one is a bit overcrowded these days |
| 22:03:07 | Casainho | yes, they are public datasheets |
| 22:04:07 | Casainho | okok, I will them on the same page :-) |
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| 22:08:30 | ally_xoxo | hey im having a problem with rockbox |
| 22:08:50 | ally_xoxo | says "Configuration Invalid" |
| 22:08:50 | iamben_ | that happened to me once! |
| 22:09:02 | iamben_ | dunno what i did |
| 22:09:42 | iamben_ | is this during the install, or after a successful install? |
| 22:09:45 | ally_xoxo | something about "mountpoint not detected" |
| 22:12:04 | scorche|w | ally_xoxo: that isnt rockbox...that is rbutil |
| 22:12:24 | ally_xoxo | okay |
| 22:12:33 | ally_xoxo | whats wrong with rbutil? |
| 22:12:45 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: Are you ising 1.0.2? |
| 22:13:03 | ally_xoxo | correct |
| 22:13:08 | ally_xoxo | i am on ubuntu |
| 22:13:22 | BigBambi | Select your mountpoint manually |
| 22:13:29 | ally_xoxo | ok um, how? |
| 22:13:35 | ally_xoxo | i did "automatic" |
| 22:13:43 | ally_xoxo | 5th generation ipod video 30GB |
| 22:13:46 | ally_xoxo | which is what I have |
| 22:15:04 | BigBambi | You see where it says selected device? |
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| 22:15:12 | ally_xoxo | yes |
| 22:15:22 | BigBambi | Click change, and select your device and mountpoint |
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| 22:16:04 | ally_xoxo | all it says is: /media/alison |
| 22:16:26 | BigBambi | and is that your ipod? |
| 22:16:35 | ally_xoxo | it is my ipod... |
| 22:16:41 | BigBambi | then there you go |
| 22:16:53 | ally_xoxo | inside alison folder is "calendars/contacts/ipod control/notes/music/etc |
| 22:16:56 | BigBambi | Now select your model in the list below, then click OK |
| 22:17:01 | ally_xoxo | i did |
| 22:17:17 | BigBambi | well done |
| 22:17:23 | ally_xoxo | and it says my configuration is invalid... |
| 22:17:49 | BigBambi | close rbutil and restart it, then try again |
| 22:17:55 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:18:02 | amiconn | Are you installing for the first time? |
| 22:18:05 | ally_xoxo | i am |
| 22:18:07 | BigBambi | amiconn: trying to |
| 22:18:16 | preglow | my nano is on its seventh retailos hour now, and about a third battery left |
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| 22:18:41 | amiconn | Then you probably need to run rbutil as root, so that it can install the bootloader |
| 22:19:09 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: Are you running it as root? |
| 22:19:23 | ally_xoxo | okay I still get the same error when i restarted my rbutil |
| 22:19:24 | BigBambi | I had assumed so, as I'm pretty sure it says to in the manual |
| 22:19:27 | * | BigBambi goes to check |
| 22:19:32 | ally_xoxo | bigbambi: i belive i am root |
| 22:19:50 | BigBambi | You used su to run rbutil? |
| 22:19:53 | nanok | ally_xoxo: type "whoami" |
| 22:19:55 | amiconn | Yeah, manual probably says so. It's just that I still didn't try rbutil at all |
| 22:20:10 | ally_xoxo | No. I just opened rbutil and the screen poped up |
| 22:20:14 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:20:17 | pixelma | BigBambi: I'm not so sure... |
| 22:20:22 | BigBambi | So you are not root then |
| 22:20:42 | ally_xoxo | whoaafrika@afrika-desktop:~$ whoami |
| 22:20:44 | ally_xoxo | alison |
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| 22:21:25 | BigBambi | pixelma: Ah, it does say so for manual install, but not rbutil |
| 22:21:55 | ally_xoxo | what am i doing wrong? |
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| 22:22:37 | amiconn | You need to run rbutil as root for a first-time installation |
| 22:22:48 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:22:52 | ally_xoxo | i thought i was in root |
| 22:22:57 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: go to a terminal |
| 22:23:00 | ally_xoxo | so what should i type in terminal |
| 22:23:04 | amiconn | This info is missing in the manual for installation via rbutil, for some unknown reason |
| 22:23:04 | ally_xoxo | yes im in terminal now |
| 22:23:07 | nanok | ally_xoxo: sudo /path/to/wherever/you/have/rbutil |
| 22:23:18 | amiconn | ally_xoxo: Not _in_ root, but as the user 'root' |
| 22:23:28 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: go to the directory where rbutilqt is |
| 22:23:29 | ally_xoxo | huh? |
| 22:23:32 | ally_xoxo | login root? |
| 22:23:36 | BigBambi | no |
| 22:23:42 | BigBambi | go to the directory where rbutilqt is |
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| 22:23:47 | ally_xoxo | ok i am in the dir where rbutil is |
| 22:23:50 | BigBambi | and type sudo ./rbutilqt |
| 22:24:15 | BigBambi | it will prompt for your password |
| 22:24:18 | nanok | (it may ask for a password, give the user password) |
| 22:24:22 | amiconn | Ah, ubuntu.... |
| 22:24:26 | nanok | amiconn: :) |
| 22:24:27 | BigBambi | amiconn: yep |
| 22:24:45 | ally_xoxo | its in /home/alison/rockbox/rbutil |
| 22:24:46 | * | amiconn would use 'su' in a terminal (debian), but on ubuntu, root is disabled iirc... |
| 22:24:54 | BigBambi | it is, yes |
| 22:24:56 | ally_xoxo | so cd /home/alison/rockbox/rbutil ? |
| 22:25:04 | BigBambi | yes |
| 22:25:07 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:25:19 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> and type sudo ./rbutilqt |
| 22:25:19 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> it will prompt for your password |
| 22:25:20 | nanok | amiconn: exactly. and not such a bad idea, either |
| 22:25:29 | * | amiconn prefers the 'su' way |
| 22:26:03 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:26:05 | ally_xoxo | i did that |
| 22:26:15 | nanok | amiconn: sometimes it is needed, anyway. or more confortable |
| 22:26:25 | pixelma | BigBambi: yes, I began a rework of the installation chapter (doesn't mention the v2 Sansas for example too) but having a bit of a hard time with the phrasing (and to find a nice order) |
| 22:26:43 | ally_xoxo | i did that bigbambi |
| 22:26:44 | BigBambi | pixelma: I'm sure :) It isn't a nice job |
| 22:26:49 | ally_xoxo | but i still get an error |
| 22:26:54 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: cool, so rbutil is running now? |
| 22:26:55 | ally_xoxo | about invalid configuration... |
| 22:27:01 | BigBambi | OK |
| 22:27:06 | ally_xoxo | yes its running.. |
| 22:27:07 | BigBambi | Lets do it the manual way |
| 22:27:10 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:27:17 | pixelma | ally_xoxo: and you remember what Domonoky told you earlier? |
| 22:27:18 | ally_xoxo | the FUN way :) |
| 22:27:22 | BigBambi | I seem to remember earlier you downloaded ipodpatcher |
| 22:27:27 | ally_xoxo | about the ipodpatch? |
| 22:27:28 | BigBambi | Do you still have it? |
| 22:27:31 | ally_xoxo | yes |
| 22:27:37 | ally_xoxo | i have the patch, but i never installed it |
| 22:27:40 | pixelma | "dont use the buttons on the first tab of rbutil, use the install options on the second tab of rbutil 1.0.2" - did you do that? |
| 22:27:41 | ally_xoxo | i got disconnected |
| 22:27:47 | BigBambi | cool |
| 22:27:57 | ally_xoxo | so what should i do with the ipodpatch? |
| 22:28:11 | BigBambi | and did you already do chmod +x ipodpatcher? |
| 22:28:36 | ally_xoxo | no |
| 22:28:38 | ally_xoxo | i dont know how |
| 22:28:39 | BigBambi | OK |
| 22:28:47 | ally_xoxo | go to termina and type "chmod +x ipodpatcher? |
| 22:28:58 | BigBambi | yes, in the directory ipodpatcher is in |
| 22:29:02 | ally_xoxo | yup ok |
| 22:29:03 | ally_xoxo | lets try it |
| 22:29:42 | ally_xoxo | k i did that |
| 22:29:48 | ally_xoxo | nothing happend, or did something happen? |
| 22:29:53 | BigBambi | now type sudo ./ipodpatcher |
| 22:30:02 | BigBambi | Something happened, you made it executable |
| 22:30:19 | ally_xoxo | Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall |
| 22:30:19 | ally_xoxo | or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) : |
| 22:30:27 | ally_xoxo | install yes? |
| 22:30:27 | BigBambi | so I would suggest i |
| 22:30:30 | BigBambi | yep :) |
| 22:30:30 | ally_xoxo | haha |
| 22:30:32 | ally_xoxo | :) |
| 22:30:51 | ally_xoxo | okay its doing its thing... |
| 22:30:59 | BigBambi | cool :) |
| 22:31:04 | ally_xoxo | kind slow |
| 22:31:07 | ally_xoxo | normally take this long? |
| 22:31:27 | BigBambi | I don't really know, I've never done it |
| 22:31:41 | ally_xoxo | ok |
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| 22:31:42 | BigBambi | I don't have an Ipod |
| 22:31:51 | ally_xoxo | [INFO] Bootloader installed successfully. |
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| 22:31:56 | BigBambi | woohoo! |
| 22:32:01 | ally_xoxo | -.- |
| 22:32:06 | ally_xoxo | so now what? |
| 22:32:07 | BigBambi | Now we just need to install a build and the fonts |
| 22:32:17 | ally_xoxo | really? |
| 22:32:23 | ally_xoxo | how to install a build? |
| 22:32:29 | BigBambi | Go here: http://build.rockbox.org/ and download the current build for your player |
| 22:32:34 | Mouser_X | join #rockbox-communityI'll ask again then. |
| 22:32:35 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:33:20 | ally_xoxo | okay BigBambi |
| 22:33:22 | ally_xoxo | downloaded it |
| 22:33:25 | BigBambi | cool |
| 22:33:31 | BigBambi | So we need to unzip it to the ipod |
| 22:33:38 | BigBambi | One way is from the terminal |
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| 22:33:55 | BigBambi | In the directory with rockbox.zip in it, type the following: |
| 22:34:02 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:34:10 | BigBambi | unzip -o rockbox.zip -d /media/alison |
| 22:34:25 | BigBambi | assuming I have spelt alison correctly |
| 22:34:54 | ally_xoxo | haha, you did :) |
| 22:34:58 | BigBambi | cool |
| 22:34:58 | ally_xoxo | dont worry hun |
| 22:35:10 | BigBambi | A firend is alyson :) |
| 22:35:10 | ally_xoxo | ok did that command |
| 22:35:13 | BigBambi | cool |
| 22:35:14 | ally_xoxo | looks uh bad... |
| 22:35:16 | BigBambi | And it worked |
| 22:35:18 | BigBambi | ? |
| 22:35:27 | ally_xoxo | checkdir error: cannot create /media/dj-fu/.rockbox |
| 22:35:27 | ally_xoxo | unable to process .rockbox/rockbox.ipod. |
| 22:35:33 | ally_xoxo | hm |
| 22:35:42 | BigBambi | what is /media/dj-fu? |
| 22:35:42 | ally_xoxo | maybe its the wrong name |
| 22:35:46 | Seraph | Uh... Hello, I've got little problem with ipod video with rockbox. Basicaly after selecting a vid lcd turned black and it froze. no response on clickwheel or to the pc. Amy idea what to do? |
| 22:35:53 | ally_xoxo | suppose to be alison |
| 22:36:02 | BigBambi | Seraph: Menu + select to reboot |
| 22:36:18 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: You need to put wherever the ipod is mounted |
| 22:36:25 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:36:33 | ally_xoxo | still get the same error.. |
| 22:36:38 | ally_xoxo | you sure i can use 'unzip" ? |
| 22:36:51 | BigBambi | what happens if you just type unzip on its own? |
| 22:36:54 | Seraph | BigBambi: Thanks, i owe you one |
| 22:37:01 | BigBambi | Seraph: no worries |
| 22:37:22 | | Part Seraph |
| 22:37:23 | ally_xoxo | unzip on its own, i get help questions |
| 22:37:31 | BigBambi | ok, so that is there fine |
| 22:37:46 | BigBambi | Could you try unplugging (safely), and pluging your ipod back in? |
| 22:38:12 | ally_xoxo | sure i think i can do that |
| 22:38:17 | BigBambi | cool |
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| 22:38:42 | ally_xoxo | do i just hit "Unmount" |
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| 22:38:47 | BigBambi | yeah |
| 22:38:53 | ally_xoxo | phew ok |
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| 22:39:11 | ally_xoxo | ok plugging back in |
| 22:39:14 | ally_xoxo | one second |
| 22:39:23 | Casainho | bye bye |
| 22:39:25 | | Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007100814]") |
| 22:39:26 | ally_xoxo | how sexi, i see rockbox on it |
| 22:39:28 | ally_xoxo | :) |
| 22:39:37 | BigBambi | It is working? |
| 22:39:41 | ally_xoxo | says rockbox boot loader |
| 22:39:55 | ally_xoxo | also says no partition found |
| 22:40:03 | BigBambi | no partition eh? |
| 22:40:11 | ally_xoxo | hold menu+select to reboot |
| 22:40:11 | BigBambi | Did it work with the Apple Firmware? |
| 22:40:30 | ally_xoxo | what do you mean apple firmware? |
| 22:40:44 | ally_xoxo | i think i restored the ipod already |
| 22:40:52 | ally_xoxo | using my Mac computer |
| 22:40:52 | BigBambi | The thing that appears when you turn the ipod on normally |
| 22:40:55 | BigBambi | ah |
| 22:40:59 | BigBambi | It won't work then |
| 22:41:04 | ally_xoxo | oh noooo |
| 22:41:08 | ally_xoxo | so what should i do? |
| 22:41:10 | BigBambi | The Mac formats the disk as HFS+ |
| 22:41:15 | BigBambi | It needs to be FAT32 |
| 22:41:20 | ally_xoxo | ahhh |
| 22:41:23 | ally_xoxo | no wonder... |
| 22:41:28 | ally_xoxo | well i dont have windows on |
| 22:41:32 | BigBambi | The easiest way is to restore it from a windows itunes pc |
| 22:41:40 | ally_xoxo | might have it on my other machine... |
| 22:41:42 | BigBambi | If not there is a manual way, but it is more complicated |
| 22:41:47 | ally_xoxo | yeah |
| 22:41:52 | ally_xoxo | lets try the manual way |
| 22:42:51 | BigBambi | I have to find the instructions |
| 22:43:07 | ally_xoxo | ok well i just checked my brothers computer: locked and hes at work |
| 22:43:09 | ally_xoxo | so no luck :( |
| 22:43:31 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
| 22:43:39 | ally_xoxo | ok |
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| 22:44:51 | ally_xoxo | so i have to download a parition table? |
| 22:44:55 | dewdude | is it normal that if you boot rockbox with the usb plugged in, windows pops up with "rockbox media player" as new hardware, then the unit reboots into disk mode only to start a cycle of constant rebooting? |
| 22:45:02 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: If it says so |
| 22:45:08 | ally_xoxo | i did |
| 22:45:18 | BigBambi | All I'm doing is reading the instructions at the same time as you |
| 22:45:37 | ally_xoxo | what is the difference: |
| 22:45:40 | ally_xoxo | 30GB Video (512-byte sectors) mbr-video30gb.bin |
| 22:45:40 | ally_xoxo | 30GB Video (2048-byte sectors) mbr-video30gb-2048.bin |
| 22:45:44 | krazykit | dewdude, please read the MajorChanges wiki page |
| 22:45:45 | ally_xoxo | both are 30GB VIdeo... |
| 22:46:18 | dewdude | right....a simple "yes" would of sufficed |
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| 22:46:31 | ally_xoxo | NOTE: If you have the 30GB video ipod, you need to determine your sector size. This can be done with the ipodpatcher command - after identifying your ipod, type "ipodpatcher /dev/diskN" (replacing diskN with the device name assigned to your ipod). This should then display the sector size. |
| 22:46:41 | BigBambi | please don't paste loads here |
| 22:46:49 | ally_xoxo | sorry :( |
| 22:46:56 | BigBambi | don't worry |
| 22:47:10 | ally_xoxo | my computer doesn't recognize my ipod anymore... |
| 22:47:28 | BigBambi | No, you need to reboot to disk mode |
| 22:47:36 | ally_xoxo | ok |
| 22:47:41 | BigBambi | The instructions on how to do so are in the manual |
| 22:48:22 | BigBambi | It really would be much easier to do this on a windows PC |
| 22:48:49 | ally_xoxo | i'd have to wait 2 hours :( |
| 22:48:58 | ally_xoxo | but i guess i'll do that for you bigbambi |
| 22:49:00 | ally_xoxo | -.- |
| 22:49:18 | amiconn | Does the ipod updater run under wine? |
| 22:49:27 | BigBambi | cheers - I think it would be better for both of us |
| 22:49:36 | * | amiconn doesn't really expect it to though |
| 22:49:46 | ally_xoxo | i agree too |
| 22:49:56 | ally_xoxo | but i hope you will see be on to help me :) |
| 22:50:10 | BigBambi | Well, it is 11pm now so probably not |
| 22:50:20 | BigBambi | But I'm sure others will be |
| 22:50:27 | BigBambi | amiconn: I doubt it |
| 22:50:38 | ally_xoxo | ;/ |
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| 22:53:56 | amiconn | Might be worth a test |
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| 23:01:20 | pixelma | how typical - something looking like a small change turns out to be a bigger one :\ |
| 23:01:47 | BigBambi | :) |
| 23:01:52 | * | pixelma discovers that the radio chapter is not enabled for the c200 manual at all... |
| 23:03:18 | ally_xoxo | who developed rockbox? |
| 23:03:26 | BigBambi | lots of people |
| 23:03:41 | ally_xoxo | i mean, did it start off as 2 kids from MIT |
| 23:03:44 | Bagder | ally_xoxo: we downloaded it from the internet! ;-) |
| 23:03:45 | ally_xoxo | or was it a small company.. |
| 23:03:52 | ally_xoxo | lol i bet! |
| 23:04:13 | BigBambi | No, it was a few Swedish people (including Bagder) who where fed up with the Archos firmware back in 2002 or so |
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| 23:04:26 | scorche|w | 2001 |
| 23:04:30 | ally_xoxo | cool ;P |
| 23:04:32 | Bagder | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3978/analyses/latest/contributors |
| 23:04:36 | Bagder | "Over the entire history of the project, 89 contributors have submitted code. 52 have done so in the last year." |
| 23:04:41 | BigBambi | scorche|w: I claim my or so covers that :) |
| 23:04:43 | ally_xoxo | BigBambi what is your rockbox theme? |
| 23:04:59 | pixelma | there once was a history link on the frontpage |
| 23:05:08 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: Various ones on various players |
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| 23:05:20 | Bagder | the history file is still in svn though |
| 23:05:32 | ally_xoxo | i like this one... |
| 23:05:33 | ally_xoxo | http://www.alwaysbeta.com/wp-content/uploads/smcbride/rockbox/ipod_0_small.jpg |
| 23:05:36 | ally_xoxo | not sure what its called |
| 23:06:58 | BigBambi | ally_xoxo: Also see http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/CREDITS?revision=16086&view=markup |
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| 23:07:31 | ally_xoxo | lots of people! |
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| 23:08:12 | Bagder | very lots! |
| 23:08:17 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:08:25 | BigBambi | :) |
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| 23:08:52 | BigBambi | and the history file: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/HISTORY?view=markup |
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| 23:11:29 | ally_xoxo | rockbox makes the batter last longer? |
| 23:11:45 | preglow | depends on your player |
| 23:11:48 | BigBambi | On most players |
| 23:11:54 | BigBambi | But not the 4G and later ipods |
| 23:11:59 | ally_xoxo | cool |
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| 23:12:02 | BigBambi | H10, and not so bad the E200 |
| 23:12:04 | preglow | and any other portalplayer device... |
| 23:12:15 | BigBambi | 1G to 3G ipods hqve better |
| 23:12:17 | ally_xoxo | rockbox is very stable yes? |
| 23:12:26 | BigBambi | depends on the player too |
| 23:12:33 | ally_xoxo | oh |
| 23:12:38 | preglow | "very", no, "somewhat", yes |
| 23:12:45 | ally_xoxo | haha |
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| 23:17:48 | krazykit | ally_xoxo, actually, battery life on those targets might get better sometime in the relatively near future, as significant work is being done on the power managementt side of thigs |
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| 23:23:17 | ally_xoxo | awsome |
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| 23:38:02 | preglow | damn |
| 23:38:16 | preglow | looks like retailos will be only marginally better than rockbox on the runtime |
| 23:38:26 | preglow | which means my battery is really busted |
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