| 00:02:15 | Nico_P | very true |
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| 00:02:38 | stripwax | although for albumart it'd be ideal if resizing was in core - and then sliding_puzzle could just load the same (high-resolution) bitmap and resize it appropriately. |
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| 00:03:07 | * | stripwax doubts anyone would have a 100x100 bitmap *and* a LCD_HEIGHT^2 bitmap just for sliding_puzzle |
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| 00:05:08 | stripwax | but sliding_puzzle would look nicer if they did :) |
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| 00:06:05 | Buschel | preglow: did you find anything about PCF-setting of PCF-registers in the OF? |
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| 00:07:02 | preglow | Buschel: i found the routine that sets pcf regs, but really not too much use of it... |
| 00:07:10 | preglow | Buschel: i'm starting to think i was perhaps a bit too fast |
| 00:07:27 | Buschel | preglow: but you've also played around with the settings on your nano? |
| 00:07:45 | preglow | Buschel: no voltage playing around so far, just figuring out if any of the regs could be disabled |
| 00:09:28 | preglow | like i said, i'm not too keen on playing around with voltages unless we discover that retailos also uses a lower voltage |
| 00:09:43 | preglow | it'll just end up a support nightmare |
| 00:10:14 | Buschel | preglow: that's correct for submitting it into svn |
| 00:10:25 | preglow | true enough |
| 00:10:29 | preglow | but that's what i'm going for anyway |
| 00:11:05 | preglow | i wonder if that sansa emulator is far enough along to be able to emulate retailos init... |
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| 00:15:14 | Buschel | ok, I gotta leave and get some sleep. see you tomorrow |
| 00:15:36 | Buschel | ahem, see you later −− it's already 0:13 here |
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| 00:22:32 | Nico_P | stripwax: I think I'll try to commit this evening |
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| 00:22:57 | Nico_P | are all the bitmaps supposed to go in apps/plugins/bitmaps/native? |
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| 01:08:56 | stripwax | NicoP - oops, sorry. back again. Yes - apps/plugins/bitmaps/native - thanks! |
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| 01:09:23 | Tyroazard | Hey #rockbox, what kinds of video formats are supported? Yes, I' |
| 01:09:28 | Tyroazard | (Damned enter key) |
| 01:09:33 | Tyroazard | I've checked the manual |
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| 01:10:10 | Tyroazard | .. |
| 01:10:23 | Tyroazard | Well then, I guess I'll have to resort to trial and error >.> |
| 01:10:55 | stripwax | Tyroazard - well, what did the manual say? did it say mpeg1 and mpeg2 only? |
| 01:11:12 | Tyroazard | Let's see |
| 01:11:20 | stripwax | Let's :) |
| 01:11:25 | Tyroazard | File formats |
| 01:11:45 | Tyroazard | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildap1.html#x14-236000A |
| 01:11:47 | Tyroazard | Not there |
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| 01:12:05 | Tyroazard | Oh right, I remember, MPEG |
| 01:12:13 | stripwax | Tyroazard : - hmm, anything here : http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1820009.3.3 |
| 01:12:19 | stripwax | under "MPEG Player" |
| 01:12:54 | Tyroazard | Yes, much better |
| 01:12:56 | Tyroazard | ._. |
| 01:13:34 | stripwax | Curious that the File Formats doesn't list .mpg as a supported extension though <odd> |
| 01:13:54 | stripwax | Although it also states that ROLO will load rockbox.ipod, which is also false |
| 01:14:09 | stripwax | unless that got fixed? |
| 01:14:42 | Tyroazard | Maybe it's not updated? >.> |
| 01:14:47 | * | stripwax wonders |
| 01:15:38 | Tyroazard | Gragh, it's disappeared again |
| 01:15:48 | Llorean | stripwax: ROLO should load rockbox.ipod... |
| 01:16:15 | stripwax | Llorean - hm, I thought there was a problem with cop that meant it couldn't .. |
| 01:17:11 | Tyroazard | Alright, Have fun with your discussions, I'm going to hunt for my video converter |
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| 01:18:04 | Llorean | stripwax: Well, I know it was doing it successfully for some period of time |
| 01:18:33 | countrymonkey | Could 8496 and 8502 be committed? Krazykit informed me of some corrections and they were done. He said they were ready for commit. Could they be committed? |
| 01:18:56 | Llorean | countrymonkey: How many times have I reminded you that you don't need to come in here and pester people about committing your patches? |
| 01:20:24 | countrymonkey | Krazykit was the one who told me to ask people who had commit access., |
| 01:20:38 | countrymonkey | here. |
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| 01:20:51 | * | stripwax sighs |
| 01:21:17 | * | Tyroazard doesn't know what's going on |
| 01:21:31 | Tyroazard | ._. |
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| 01:21:50 | stripwax | Llorean - without friendly reminders would patches get committed in due course anyway? |
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| 01:21:53 | Nico_P | stripwax: commiteed :) |
| 01:21:56 | * | stripwax isn't sure |
| 01:21:59 | stripwax | Nico_P - wahey! |
| 01:22:00 | * | stripwax is converted |
| 01:22:47 | * | Tyroazard is confused |
| 01:22:48 | stripwax | Nico_P - many thanks. Do I win the award for the oldest feature request closed? :-) |
| 01:23:03 | Nico_P | hehe, maybe |
| 01:23:04 | Llorean | stripwax: Friendly reminders are fine. Pestering people repeatedly isn't. |
| 01:23:10 | * | stripwax finds the flyspray number |
| 01:23:22 | Llorean | A friendly reminder should be A) to the mailing list, and B) Asking "is it ready, and if not, how can I make it ready" |
| 01:23:25 | stripwax | Llorean - fair enough. I realise that I've been pestering people of late. |
| 01:23:45 | stripwax | in the B) style , luckily |
| 01:24:01 | stripwax | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1520?histring=bitmap%20sliding%20puzzle |
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| 01:24:02 | Llorean | He has a habit of showing up within just a few minutes of posting a task, and pestering about it. |
| 01:24:03 | stripwax | #1520 |
| 01:24:09 | stripwax | ah. ok. |
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| 01:24:26 | stripwax | only 4.5 years. not bad. |
| 01:24:41 | Llorean | I'm of the opinion that something should be in the tracker a minimum of a week before "reminders" should even be considered. |
| 01:24:43 | Nico_P | stripwax: I didn't feel pestered at all in case you wonder... I should have been quicker to commit the patch ;) |
| 01:25:00 | Tyroazard | What patches? |
| 01:25:01 | stripwax | Nico_P - around exam time? no, I think you did fine :) |
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| 01:25:56 | stripwax | Tyroazard - this one: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7218?histring=sliding%20puzzle |
| 01:27:07 | Tyroazard | Oh. |
| 01:27:22 | stripwax | Llorean - for sure. Didn't know the details (was thinking my friendly reminders of my 8-month-old patch were a bit rude :-) |
| 01:28:03 | Tyroazard | Oh yes, might I ask why the scrollwheel is sometimes irresponsive until I press a button? |
| 01:28:04 | stripwax | Nico_P - can you mark that feature request closed too! :-) |
| 01:28:11 | Nico_P | done just now |
| 01:28:15 | Nico_P | stripwax: we have some red |
| 01:28:17 | stripwax | superstar |
| 01:28:20 | Tyroazard | And if that is a feature, how I could turn that off? |
| 01:28:21 | stripwax | ah. not so super |
| 01:28:32 | stripwax | Tyroazard - vaguely known issue. not sure. |
| 01:28:56 | Tyroazard | Ah. |
| 01:29:30 | stripwax | M-Robe is a build newer than my patch (not sure that absolves me from blame). Ipod Color - confess I didn't try... |
| 01:30:34 | rasher | stripwax: and h300 |
| 01:30:36 | stripwax | H300 - that error is confusing me. |
| 01:30:38 | stripwax | right |
| 01:30:47 | rasher | Thought you might've missed it on the far right |
| 01:31:00 | stripwax | "undefined reference to sliding_puzzle" - that means I'm missing a native bitmap for h300? |
| 01:31:33 | stripwax | oh, same for ipod color. crapola. let me just knock up a couple bitmaps in the correct res.. |
| 01:31:45 | rasher | same res |
| 01:31:46 | Nico_P | yeah, they're the same screen size |
| 01:31:54 | stripwax | ah-hah.. |
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| 01:32:02 | stripwax | which is? |
| 01:32:15 | Nico_P | 220x176 |
| 01:32:24 | * | stripwax whips up a 176x176 image |
| 01:32:31 | Nico_P | what are all the mrobe build failures about? bad build server? |
| 01:32:49 | rasher | looks like it |
| 01:33:21 | Nico_P | stripwax: some builds have a warning too: "sliding_puzzle.c:577:25: warning: "SANSE_C200_PAD" is not defined" |
| 01:33:22 | stripwax | Nico_P - hrm, it seems I have a 176x176 bitmap already. Is something else missing? |
| 01:33:43 | Nico_P | typo I guess |
| 01:33:43 | Tyroazard | Which one would be better? MPEG1 or 2? |
| 01:33:52 | stripwax | Nico_P - no idea. Unless that's just me fat-fingering some define. |
| 01:34:19 | rasher | stripwax: sansE? |
| 01:34:28 | Tyroazard | Using logic I would say 2, but I don't know about video formatas |
| 01:34:29 | stripwax | yeah |
| 01:34:31 | Tyroazard | -a |
| 01:34:36 | stripwax | probably :) |
| 01:35:06 | stripwax | what can I say, it's an old patch |
| 01:36:04 | Nico_P | found the bitmap problem too |
| 01:36:14 | stripwax | what was it? |
| 01:36:20 | Nico_P | another typo :) |
| 01:36:30 | stripwax | oh, right. LCD_WIDTH ... twice .. |
| 01:36:41 | Nico_P | yes |
| 01:37:29 | Nico_P | fix committed |
| 01:37:40 | stripwax | in the 'real world' do people really test builds against all platforms or just rely on the build servers to flag problems? |
| 01:38:03 | stripwax | I confess, I didn't set up a build for every single rockbox platform available |
| 01:38:14 | stripwax | Nico_P - awesome, thanks! |
| 01:39:12 | Nico_P | stripwax: depends on the change I guess |
| 01:39:53 | Nico_P | but judging from the frequency of "oops" or "fix red/yellow" commits, I believe people rely on the build system :) |
| 01:39:56 | Llorean | I still think we need some sort of "Full target test" target in configure that'll build a wide (or full) range of builds to verify major commits. |
| 01:40:04 | stripwax | :) |
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| 01:41:19 | Nico_P | Llorean: that's take a lot of time, but I agree it's be good |
| 01:41:43 | Nico_P | s/'s/'d |
| 01:41:45 | Llorean | Yeah, but for *really* major patches, it'd be nice. |
| 01:42:45 | rasher | I don't see the big problem in relying on the build system, as long as you're reasonably confidennt that any errors that might arise can be fixed quickly |
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| 01:42:49 | Nico_P | it's actually quite an easy script to write |
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| 01:43:27 | stripwax | ok, I really have to sleep now (and pack a suitcase in the a.m.). Nico_P - thanks again. I hope to have a working ipod to test your patch shortly.. |
| 01:44:05 | Nico_P | stripwax: well thank you for the patch |
| 01:44:13 | Nico_P | and good night :) |
| 01:45:24 | * | stripwax sighs - now his ipod is hanging on the rockbox logo. |
| 01:45:36 | Nico_P | I like markun's idea about usability studies, but I'm not sure it's really appropriate for a GSoC project |
| 01:45:47 | stripwax | Nico_P - without your patch, I hasten to add. thinking Buschel's broken it :-P |
| 01:45:48 | Nico_P | stripwax: have you tried without Buschel's patch? |
| 01:45:52 | Nico_P | ah |
| 01:45:55 | stripwax | right. and not yet. |
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| 01:49:47 | markun | Nico_P: maybe not, but when I was at google they told us they also wanted something like gsoc for non-computer science students. Laws students for example. |
| 01:49:48 | golephish | hey whats up |
| 01:50:22 | Nico_P | markun: hope they do it :) |
| 01:50:59 | markun | I listened to a nice podcast about usability, but it's in german: http://chaosradio.ccc.de/cre064.html |
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| 01:51:41 | golephish | hey are they ever going to make a rockbox for zune ? |
| 01:52:07 | bucko | I suspect Zune is heavily closed? |
| 01:52:09 | markun | if someone figures out a way to run code on the zune |
| 01:52:35 | golephish | how close are they ? |
| 01:52:43 | markun | it's mostly the same hardware as the Gigabeat S... but with a nice security bug fixed :( |
| 01:52:43 | Nico_P | golephish: far |
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| 01:53:02 | markun | far away :) |
| 01:53:22 | Soap | Britney:Sanity Zune:Rockbox |
| 01:53:38 | stripwax | heh |
| 01:53:38 | Nico_P | stripwax: are you planning on testing the patch this evening? |
| 01:53:53 | stripwax | probably more likely over the next week while snowboarding ;-) |
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| 01:54:12 | Nico_P | ah I'm going to do exactly the same |
| 01:54:13 | markun | golephish: there is not really a 'they'. There were some people claiming they were porting linux to the zune, but it was all talk and now work. |
| 01:54:20 | stripwax | yet to get a working build, just built without Buschel's latest patch so we'll see. |
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| 01:54:39 | * | stripwax disappears and comes back later |
| 01:54:48 | Nico_P | stripwax: where are you going? |
| 01:54:56 | Nico_P | I mean for the snowboarding |
| 01:55:52 | golephish | stripwax −− what patch are you speakin of? |
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| 01:57:51 | markun | golephish: this one I think: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8379 |
| 01:59:09 | stripwax | Nico_P - can't really recall - France somewhere.. |
| 01:59:20 | stripwax | (14 of us..) |
| 01:59:43 | Nico_P | stripwax: if by chance it's La Plagne we should try meeting |
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| 02:00:36 | stripwax | lemme just actually find out ..! |
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| 02:03:49 | golephish | yo markin |
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| 02:03:52 | golephish | wtf is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8379 ? |
| 02:04:01 | stripwax | golephish - power |
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| 02:04:10 | golephish | ?? |
| 02:04:14 | stripwax | golephish - battery life |
| 02:04:21 | golephish | for waht ? |
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| 02:04:40 | stripwax | ipod & sansa |
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| 02:05:12 | golephish | ah |
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| 02:09:01 | stripwax | Nico_P - alpe d'huez (apparently) |
| 02:09:17 | Nico_P | ah, nice resort too :) |
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| 02:12:30 | stripwax | ooh, hope so :) |
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| 02:12:46 | stripwax | ok, let's see if *this* build works .. |
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| 02:14:25 | stripwax | it boots!! </young frankestein> |
| 02:14:50 | stripwax | um, track skips are unresponsive |
| 02:15:15 | stripwax | oh, no, just very slow while buffering |
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| 02:15:40 | stripwax | after buffering - works very well imo |
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| 02:16:01 | stripwax | and wps (visually) updates immediately, essentially |
| 02:16:09 | saratoga | surprisingly, my Sansa's been running at 1.1v for the last 6 hours |
| 02:16:14 | saratoga | no glitches or crashes |
| 02:16:28 | saratoga | i wonder what the PP5024 is speced at |
| 02:16:35 | Llorean | saratoga: There's still the AMS codec chip in the e200 that could be to blame (in response to your forum post) |
| 02:16:39 | stripwax | Nico_P - I rather like it. comcerned about the delay in responsiveness while initial uffering however |
| 02:16:57 | Nico_P | stripwax: yeah I'm not surprised |
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| 02:17:24 | Nico_P | do you think you could try with the queue_send calls changed to queue_post in audi_prev and audio_next? |
| 02:17:55 | Nico_P | might be more responsive |
| 02:18:06 | stripwax | hm. I pressed skip back about seven times and it's now playing a *totally* different album |
| 02:18:25 | Nico_P | don't you have auto dir change enabled? |
| 02:18:31 | stripwax | in the sense that pressing fwd * 7 doesn't take me back to where i came from |
| 02:18:35 | stripwax | yes |
| 02:18:40 | Nico_P | ah |
| 02:19:12 | stripwax | what happens if i skip back prior to track #1 in my playlist ? |
| 02:19:24 | Nico_P | it will go to the prev dir |
| 02:19:34 | Nico_P | (last track of it) |
| 02:20:03 | saratoga | Llorean: which forum post? |
| 02:20:21 | stripwax | hm, in that case it might be going crazy .. pressing back * 7 skipped from M to A (and I have over 10,000 tracks...) |
| 02:20:22 | Llorean | Clipping in the WMA file on e200? |
| 02:20:46 | saratoga | oh |
| 02:20:49 | saratoga | ogg file i think |
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| 02:21:40 | stripwax | hm, and skipping back some more and music playback stops completely and i'm at the main menu.. hrrm.. something is not right here |
| 02:21:55 | stripwax | and play now says "nothing to resume" |
| 02:22:01 | Nico_P | ok I guess it needs more work :) |
| 02:23:10 | stripwax | skipping fwd seems to work much better than back ... |
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| 02:23:46 | stripwax | yeah skipping back RAPIDLY beyond an album boundary makes it go crazy .... |
| 02:23:53 | saratoga | Llorean: unless hes burned out the as3514's amp, i don't think it could be a codec problem because it doesn't happen on my Sansa |
| 02:24:13 | stripwax | amost like each subsequent 'back' skips an entire folder (rather than track) |
| 02:24:23 | Nico_P | hmm |
| 02:24:29 | saratoga | and also since I've never heard of anyone else reporting such a problem, which i would expect to happen on any loud track if it were a codec issue |
| 02:24:42 | stripwax | almost. |
| 02:24:56 | stripwax | seems in fact like it skips more than an entire album. no idea what it's doing. |
| 02:24:59 | saratoga | if you mean the WMA decoder problems everyone is reporting, i think thats just my codec not working with the lastest version of the MS encoder |
| 02:25:06 | saratoga | which needs to be fixed |
| 02:25:18 | stripwax | ok - i really have to sleep now. early flight, later all |
| 02:25:21 | stripwax | Nico_P - and thanks! |
| 02:25:30 | Nico_P | you're welcome ;) |
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| 02:26:23 | Llorean | saratoga: When we weren't sure the ASwhatever was configured right, it produced clipping. And every now and then I see someone with a problem file that they claim clips. I wouldn't be surprised if the settings aren't perfect yet |
| 02:26:53 | Llorean | saratoga: If you didn't hear clipping on that WMA file though, I guess that's that. |
| 02:27:04 | saratoga | ogg file right? |
| 02:27:07 | pixelma | saratoga: I have a wmv here and wanted to try if Rockbox can play the audio part of it (out of curiosity) - it plays the track and doesn't freeze the player but all I hear are strange noises. How can I find out what type of wma it is and would you be interested at all? |
| 02:27:20 | Llorean | saratoga: I'm pretty sure it was a WMA that he gave as a sample |
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| 02:27:37 | Llorean | Yeah, 04-Fading Away.wma |
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| 02:27:53 | saratoga | http://74.167.183.209/docs/04-Fading%20Away.ogg |
| 02:27:59 | saratoga | oddly enough he posted it in both formats |
| 02:28:22 | saratoga | the vorbis one didn't clip at least (well at least not more then it should given he didn't use replaygain) |
| 02:29:23 | Llorean | Interesting |
| 02:29:34 | saratoga | pixelma: at the moment, not really |
| 02:29:56 | Llorean | But I have heard occasional reports of the sound quality in Rockbox on e200 showing clipping-like noises. Nothing solid though, but I don't want to dismiss them, because I know we're unsure-ish of the "right" settings for the AMS chip |
| 02:29:56 | saratoga | i've got about 10 samples to look at and i'm preoccupied with the power consumption issues on the PP targets |
| 02:30:17 | pixelma | saratoga: sure :) |
| 02:30:44 | saratoga | pixelma: also, WMA pro tracks are not uncommon for WMVs |
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| 02:31:04 | pixelma | how can I find out? |
| 02:31:16 | saratoga | graphedit maybe? |
| 02:31:25 | saratoga | or avicodec on windows would be better |
| 02:31:40 | saratoga | its not actually avi specific |
| 02:31:50 | XavierGr | does anyone know from which function the boot logo is displayed, I already commented out show_logo() main.c and still see it :\ |
| 02:32:48 | XavierGr | hmm dircache calls it too... |
| 02:34:36 | pixelma | saratoga: ah thanks, avicodec looks interesting might look into later |
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| 02:56:22 | XavierGr | just trying to find where the Gigabeat S crashes seems a pain |
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| 02:58:41 | webguest21 | hollar my negros! |
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| 02:59:44 | webguest21 | soo.. no brothas? |
| 02:59:47 | webguest21 | with huge cocks? |
| 02:59:51 | webguest21 | plz? |
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| 03:00:18 | Llorean | webguest21: This is an on-topic channel. Would you kindly read and respect the guidelines in the forum topic? |
| 03:00:34 | XavierGr | just ban him |
| 03:00:45 | webguest21 | NOOOOO!!!! |
| 03:01:04 | webguest21 | I will follow the topic |
| 03:01:05 | webguest21 | for reals |
| 03:01:05 | webguest21 | ! |
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| 03:06:45 | webguest21 | anyone? |
| 03:06:49 | webguest21 | help? |
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| 03:23:40 | XavierGr | bah fighting with the gigabeat S for over an hour and I can't even tell where it crashes after it loads the firmware!! |
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| 03:46:25 | kkurbjun | xaviergr, is there a jtag port on the gigabeat s? |
| 03:46:42 | toffe82 | kkurbjun: yes |
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| 03:47:18 | kkurbjun | you can do quite a bit of debugging with that, has anyone connect to it? |
| 03:47:29 | kkurbjun | connected that is |
| 03:52:25 | toffe82 | I don't think so |
| 03:52:50 | toffe82 | the jtag on this cpu is not as simple as on the one of the F |
| 03:54:02 | kkurbjun | how do you mean? |
| 03:54:24 | kkurbjun | are there other devices in the chain |
| 03:57:34 | toffe82 | kkurbjun: check your email |
| 03:58:27 | kkurbjun | got it |
| 03:59:03 | kkurbjun | so there's a couple of other devices in the chain, but they can be put in bypass |
| 03:59:13 | kkurbjun | as long as you know the instruction register length |
| 03:59:56 | kkurbjun | I've never tried openocd with more than one device in the chain (since I've only done the gigabeat F) |
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| 04:00:06 | kkurbjun | the m:robe only has 1 device in the chain too I think |
| 04:00:15 | toffe82 | there is also a security on the jtag |
| 04:00:31 | kkurbjun | hmm, is it enabled? |
| 04:00:51 | kkurbjun | I remember reading somethign like that a while ago, but |
| 04:01:12 | * | eigma is around |
| 04:01:24 | toffe82 | we don't know |
| 04:01:35 | kkurbjun | :), eigma does the m:robe have more than one device in teh chain? |
| 04:01:42 | eigma | nope, just the ARM |
| 04:01:50 | toffe82 | there is also a way to load the bootloader via serial port |
| 04:02:21 | toffe82 | I didn't check but perhaps the pin to validate it are available |
| 04:02:46 | kkurbjun | toffe82, gotcha, eigma showed me the benefits of loading with gdb, if you can get that running you can set hardware breakpoints, step through code, examine memory and registers, etc |
| 04:03:13 | eigma | loading is fairly slow though; I get 16 KBytes/s |
| 04:03:39 | kkurbjun | yes, same here, I think you can get cables that run faster though |
| 04:04:08 | kkurbjun | Xilinx makes some really fast ones, but I don't think open OCD supports those, there are others around though |
| 04:05:02 | kkurbjun | I might have an extra JTAG3 cable though if you're interested toffe |
| 04:05:11 | eigma | I'm thinking about optimizing the parallel functions in assembly, but I doubt I can get much speedup.. the issue is probably ISA bus bandwidth |
| 04:05:46 | kkurbjun | if you don't have buffers on the cables you could run into signal integrity problems too |
| 04:06:36 | kkurbjun | the parallel cables can run faster in I thin ECP mode, but you need something to interpret the logic downstream |
| 04:06:55 | eigma | interesting |
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| 04:10:19 | kkurbjun | hmm, looks like the other cables that openocd are quite a bit more than building/buying a parallel III |
| 04:10:30 | toffe82 | I would like to do a lot things but I didn't really have time :( |
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| 04:17:22 | XavierGr | kkurbjun: what's your jtag debugger? |
| 04:18:13 | XavierGr | I've built one but it is for small AVRs :P |
| 04:25:01 | leprasmurf | hello all, I'm curious, what language are rockbox and the subsequent plugins programmed in? |
| 04:25:18 | XavierGr | mostly c and a little bit asm |
| 04:25:42 | leprasmurf | ic |
| 04:25:59 | leprasmurf | really need to learn c better |
| 04:26:15 | XavierGr | here is your chance to learn and help rockbox too :P |
| 04:27:18 | leprasmurf | heh |
| 04:27:27 | leprasmurf | to bad i'm lacking in discipline and time |
| 04:27:42 | leprasmurf | I took a level 1 in college, and never got around to level 2 |
| 04:28:09 | leprasmurf | though do you have any advice on a good training site? |
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| 04:50:43 | XavierGr | leprasmurf: yeah, the internet. The best out there... |
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| 04:55:04 | leprasmurf | I was referring to a more focused set |
| 04:55:35 | leprasmurf | I find on several of the languages I've self taught on, I end up missing general practices (read: perl's getopt library) |
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| 04:57:46 | leprasmurf | ah well, have a good one |
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| 04:57:49 | leprasmurf | thanks |
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| 04:57:58 | saratoga | i think getopt is actually a c library |
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| 05:05:24 | saratoga | anyone around with the coldfire built environment setup? |
| 05:06:45 | Llorean | Kinda? |
| 05:07:16 | Llorean | I have a build environment I can ssh into, but no player to test builds with. |
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| 05:07:51 | eigma | same here |
| 05:07:56 | saratoga | i need a copy of vorbis.o from any build |
| 05:08:05 | Llorean | Gimme 45 seconds |
| 05:09:19 | Llorean | http://llorean.dyndns.org/rockbox/vorbis.o |
| 05:09:21 | Llorean | Well wait |
| 05:09:39 | Llorean | that might be out of date. |
| 05:10:06 | saratoga | shyould be fine |
| 05:10:24 | Llorean | Well it's SVN current now |
| 05:10:26 | saratoga | i'm just trying to figure out how the profile parser works on coldfire so i can update it for arm |
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| 05:31:56 | countrymonkey | I want to use espeak to build a voice. Which directories do I put where to get it working under cygwin? |
| 05:35:47 | Llorean | You just install it like normal? |
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| 05:37:20 | countrymonkey | I installed it from the win installation. It says espeak: command not found. |
| 05:37:33 | countrymonkey | I mean configure does. |
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| 05:57:40 | Dajax | Hey |
| 05:57:50 | Dajax | hey |
| 05:58:02 | Dajax | I need some help |
| 05:58:03 | DogBoy | we're the monkey's |
| 05:58:14 | cool_walking_ | *monkees |
| 05:58:31 | Dajax | in my rockbox DB i have duplicates of some artist |
| 05:59:37 | Dajax | like Avenged Sevenfold/Avenged Sevenfold/Avenged Sevenfold/ and Between the Buried and me/Between the Buried and me/ |
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| 06:00:05 | cool_walking_ | I don't use the database, but are the names in different cases? |
| 06:00:08 | Dajax | does anyone no how to fix this |
| 06:00:11 | cool_walking_ | It could be case sensitive |
| 06:00:45 | Dajax | i don't think so... im using Fixtunes so everything in that ablum by that artist is the same name and case |
| 06:01:42 | Dajax | it splits my albums under two different artist |
| 06:02:06 | Dajax | im using cpchan's build |
| 06:02:32 | Dajax | .... :\ i like it very much but... i never had a problem before |
| 06:03:25 | cool_walking_ | Sorry I don't know anything about the database.. |
| 06:05:03 | Dajax | k thanx |
| 06:05:31 | Dajax | ima try a different build i guess |
| 06:05:51 | cool_walking_ | Just try deleting the database files and rebuilding it again. |
| 06:06:08 | Dajax | i have.... same problem |
| 06:06:09 | Dajax | :/ |
| 06:07:34 | cool_walking_ | Are you definitely sure the names are exactly the same? There could be an extra space, or a character that looks like an "e" but isn't.. |
| 06:07:52 | Dajax | yea... its not likat that |
| 06:08:05 | Dajax | is giving me Between the Buried and me and Between the Buried and me/Between the Buried and me |
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| 06:16:53 | cool_walking_ | I found this forum thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4793.15 |
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| 06:18:48 | Dajax | laoding |
| 06:20:45 | Dajax | hmm... not exactly what i was talking about... but... it gives me idea |
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| 07:23:02 | qwm | scorche scorche|sh |
| 07:23:09 | qwm | make midkay buy salty liquorice tomorrow. |
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| 07:24:21 | scorche|sh | uhhhh...ok |
| 07:25:11 | qwm | if he doesn't, i'll be very very disappointed in both of you! |
| 07:25:47 | qwm | "ammonium chloride" must be listed as an ingredience. |
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| 07:31:12 | scorche|sh | qwm: you should really take your ramblings to #rockbox-community => |
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| 07:32:31 | qwm | scorche|sh: does this really concern the rockbox community? |
| 07:32:32 | qwm | :P |
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| 08:29:38 | Hektik | Any progress on the Gigabeat S? Are there people working on it at the moment? |
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| 09:38:51 | stripwax | In the rockbox build "file size deltas" page, is "bin" just the main rockbox image or does that count include plugins too? and what is "ram" in that context? |
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| 09:44:13 | PaulJam | stripwax: little sliding puzzle question, when a cover.176x176.bmp is available, will this be used or the one from the WPS? |
| 09:45:19 | stripwax | PaulJam - good question. Current answer is 'no' , it would be more like the other way around: wps would use cover.100x100.bmp and sliding puzzle would use cover.bmp |
| 09:45:47 | stripwax | but looking for cover.176x176.bmp (when your device has LCD_HEIGHT=176, presumably) would be nice |
| 09:46:02 | stripwax | that should be a really, really easy change thanks to Nico_P's great api |
| 09:46:43 | amiconn | stripwax: The size delta table is for the main binary only |
| 09:46:44 | stripwax | ideally in fact it should look for the largest size available, but the api doesn't quite make that trivial right now |
| 09:46:59 | stripwax | amiconn - ok - which makes sense. and 'ram' - ? |
| 09:47:09 | amiconn | And 'ram' includes all statically allocated ram, i.e. the binary itself + bss space |
| 09:47:29 | stripwax | oh, I see. thanks |
| 09:48:39 | PaulJam | stripwax: ok, thanks for the clarification. |
| 09:52:41 | stripwax | PaulJam - it will just pick the cover.bmp and resize to the device height (or width, if your device is portrait) |
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| 09:52:53 | stripwax | see you in a week |
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| 10:31:22 | Casainho | I am studding a way to link 8 buttons to a MCU... and I have the possibility of use just 1 wire to connect the 8 buttons signals to MCU, however this technique doesn't allow to detect simultaneous buttons press... is important for RB software to detect simultaneous buttons? - 4 direction buttons (up/down/left/right), select, menu, play/pause and stop. Up and down buttons typical acts as... |
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| 10:31:24 | Casainho | ...volume up and down. |
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| 10:36:09 | amiconn | It's not very important, but often useful. |
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| 10:36:43 | amiconn | I don't think it's necessary to be able to detect each button individually. A few independent groups already help a lot |
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| 10:39:05 | Casainho | amiconn: okok, so I think I will use 8 wires and not 1 wire :-) |
| 10:39:35 | Casainho | thank you :-) |
| 10:41:56 | amiconn | As mentioned, it's not only the extremes which are possible. Among the rockbox targets we have a lot of variants ranging from each button connected individually (e.g. archos player), to all buttons connected via one wire except power (e.g. iaudio X5, M5) |
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| 10:47:46 | Boris | does anyone know if there are plans about porting rockbox for sony walkmans ? |
| 10:48:27 | n1s | we don't plan ports and afaik no one has been looking into sony daps |
| 10:50:03 | Boris | do you know what board has the sony walkman nwz series (ARMm) ? |
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| 10:55:12 | Casainho | amiconn: and what will be preferable? - knowing that It's possible to use 1 wire or 8 wire? |
| 10:55:42 | Casainho | amiconn: I mean, what would you choose, thinking in software side? |
| 10:56:23 | BigBambi | Casainho: Or somewhere in between... |
| 10:57:01 | BigBambi | <10.41> <amiconn> As mentioned, it's not only the extremes which are possible. |
| 10:57:51 | Casainho | okok, I understand, for the sake of simplicity in understand the hardware, I think I will use 8 wires :-) |
| 10:57:54 | BigBambi | Some combining of buttons would be useful, but it isn't necessarily necessary to be able to combine all 8 |
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| 11:40:42 | Bagder | nice to see the build times have shrunk to nice levels again |
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| 11:45:59 | pixelma | Bagder: seen Llorean's mention of a corrupted zip from one of the new build servers yesterday (it was mentioned in the forum first |
| 11:46:00 | markun | Bagder: did er get some new build servers donated? |
| 11:46:15 | Bagder | pixelma: no... which server? |
| 11:46:23 | markun | never mind |
| 11:46:35 | pixelma | apocalyps.org IIRC |
| 11:46:59 | Bagder | markun: most importantly we recovered some of the old ones and I've tweaked how the builds are handed out |
| 11:47:10 | markun | ok, cool |
| 11:47:11 | Bagder | yes, I noticed that as well |
| 11:47:22 | Bagder | apocalyps is currently disabled again |
| 11:47:56 | markun | Bagder: do you now wait for a faster server to finish instead of always handing it to a free server? |
| 11:47:59 | Bagder | after I sent out my plea, I noticed that two of those we run weren't participating |
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| 11:48:26 | Bagder | no, I didn't modify the actual code yet |
| 11:48:36 | Bagder | I just made the really fast server NOT do sh builds |
| 11:48:42 | Bagder | and the really slow ones ONLY do sh |
| 11:49:09 | Bagder | s/server/servers |
| 11:58:44 | markun | any ipod users in here? |
| 11:59:14 | markun | this sounds like a strange bug (or I don't understand him) http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15137.0 |
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| 12:00:33 | amiconn | I bet he used hold during playback |
| 12:01:46 | amiconn | The ipod clickwheel button driver has the problem that sometimes the first button press after releasing hold doesn't work |
| 12:02:04 | Shaid | or he could have "First keypress enables backlight only" turned on. or something. |
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| 12:08:33 | amiconn | Bagder: Does the system also allow to distribute by build type? |
| 12:09:02 | amiconn | If so, the slow servers should preferably do bootloaders, while the fast ones should not do those |
| 12:09:12 | Bagder | no, a server can support sdl, sh, arm, m68k only |
| 12:09:45 | Bagder | higher resolution there would be a good thing to add |
| 12:10:19 | Bagder | and also "non-zip" builds would be useful at times, for those who can build fast but rather not upload anything |
| 12:10:40 | amiconn | It might also be helpful to differentiate by uplink speed in addition to build server speed |
| 12:10:51 | amiconn | hehe |
| 12:11:23 | Bagder | in general the build script should be rewritten from scratch to take all the existing knowledge into account |
| 12:11:50 | Bagder | I might be able to have a go at that in a few weeks or so |
| 12:12:16 | Bagder | with "the most recent build took 4mins 36secs" of course it doesn't feel urgent... |
| 12:14:02 | Bagder | fnarfbargle.com is about to get upgraded btw |
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| 12:23:33 | Bagder | there seems to be a "funny" mode on the c200v2 |
| 12:23:35 | rasher | Hrm, with build times that low, a buildserver vm probably isn't terribly useful |
| 12:23:59 | Bagder | when booted into this mode, some directories appear empty and there are a few new "bonus" files |
| 12:24:16 | markun | what kind of files? |
| 12:24:23 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/v2/c200/sansa-c200v2.zip |
| 12:24:44 | rasher | Bagder: opinion on fs#8502? Personally I don't really think it's worth the bother |
| 12:25:20 | Bagder | I agree |
| 12:26:17 | rasher | Besides, it wouldn't work with xmllang! |
| 12:26:17 | amiconn | Does the distributed build system use make -j <n> ? |
| 12:26:40 | Bagder | each acbuild.pl script does it by itself |
| 12:26:48 | amiconn | ah |
| 12:27:11 | amiconn | Thinking about whether VMs would make sense on an SMP build server |
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| 12:28:43 | rasher | Actually, Llorean said that building under vmware was only 10% slower than native linux build. |
| 12:29:13 | rasher | Haven't checked it myself, but if that's true, it might be useful for someone who can't/won't install Linux but has a fast cpu |
| 12:29:27 | Bagder | yeps |
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| 12:30:12 | * | amiconn is playing with the idea of having an own server |
| 12:30:29 | amiconn | A real server I mean, not a minitower at home |
| 12:30:47 | Bagder | you need many servers! |
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| 12:32:25 | Bagder | we need to add some more FS admins |
| 12:32:34 | Slasheri | i have 5 servers, at home :) |
| 12:32:53 | Bagder | you should fix your build server Slasheri |
| 12:33:13 | Slasheri | Bagder: hmm, which one of them? |
| 12:33:15 | Bagder | or.. am I wrong |
| 12:33:28 | Slasheri | iirc, i recently installed both of those |
| 12:33:33 | Slasheri | *reinstalled |
| 12:33:42 | Bagder | ihme.org only does sh builds atm |
| 12:33:51 | Bagder | can it do sdl, arm and m68k too? |
| 12:34:23 | Slasheri | hmm, i doubt sdl but it should be able to do arm and m68k too.. let me check |
| 12:34:38 | Bagder | it had problems with them in the past |
| 12:35:51 | Slasheri | yep, it has all compilers reinstalled from 2007-11-24 |
| 12:35:57 | Bagder | great |
| 12:36:16 | Bagder | but no sdl? |
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| 12:37:03 | Slasheri | hmm, i probably that isn't a good idea to try. but i can configure sdl for xen.ihme.org (if it doesn't have it already) |
| 12:37:20 | Bagder | no, it doesn't in my table at least |
| 12:37:55 | Bagder | your servers are really good build servers so I really enjoy seeing as many compiles as possible on them |
| 12:38:10 | Slasheri | Bagder: hmm, you just re-opened task FS #8414. Are you sure that still happens? |
| 12:38:20 | Bagder | the guy asking for it says so |
| 12:38:35 | Bagder | see history tab |
| 12:39:16 | amiconn | Bagder: You're sure that I still need several if I get a dual woodcrest machine? ;) |
| 12:39:27 | amiconn | (that means 8-way smp...) |
| 12:39:39 | Slasheri | Bagder: hmm, interesting.. |
| 12:39:45 | Bagder | haha, yes yes you need many in different places! |
| 12:40:26 | Bagder | I have a hard time with some of the close/re-open requests on the bug entries |
| 12:40:50 | markun | amiconn: ipod question: is the difference in LCD brightness between 1 and 2 the same as between 31 and 32? |
| 12:41:16 | amiconn | The visual difference between 1 and 2 is much larger than between 31 and 32 |
| 12:41:38 | markun | maybe we could something similar to what I did for the Gigabeat? |
| 12:41:40 | amiconn | I.e. it is linear, but with only 32 steps I'd rather not go logarithmic |
| 12:41:55 | amiconn | That'd mean dropping a lot of technically possible settings |
| 12:41:57 | markun | fair enough |
| 12:42:10 | markun | you would only end up with 10 brightness settings |
| 12:42:16 | markun | maybe not enough for some people :) |
| 12:42:25 | amiconn | And so far the rockbox philosophy was to offer what the hardware allows, if it makes sense |
| 12:44:01 | markun | if some chip had linesr volume control I still wouldn't like it, even if it was in the rockbox philosophy |
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| 12:45:05 | amiconn | Hence the 'if it makes sense' |
| 12:45:26 | markun | in the case of brightness I don't see how it makes sense |
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| 12:46:23 | markun | hi moos! |
| 12:46:33 | moos | Hello there |
| 12:48:02 | Nico_P | amiconn: you didn't comment on what I said yesterday about the ipod |
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| 13:33:31 | pixelma | BigBambi: re. your forum post - 30 minutes is roughly 30 MB of 128 kbps mp3... that's why my thought. Wanted to suggest the same. |
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| 13:40:59 | BigBambi | I thought that too, but thought wouldn't it crash on buffering? |
| 13:41:18 | BigBambi | So I still suggested it but with a disclaimer :) |
| 13:41:33 | BigBambi | @pixelma |
| 13:42:38 | BigBambi | pixelma: I have added that too the post :) |
| 13:45:50 | pixelma | BigBambi: yes, found this a little bit curious too but if it's happening always after about 30 minutes; can't hurt if he tries. And I didn't want to go into detail until the question was answered. |
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| 14:13:31 | markun | anyone with an ipod video or nano who wants to test my patch? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/ipod_log_brightness.patch |
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| 14:16:32 | salty-horse | should rockbox bea ble to play this file? "MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1, 96 kBits, 44.1 kHz, JntStereo" |
| 14:17:40 | markun | salty-horse: I think so. Doesn't it work? |
| 14:18:05 | salty-horse | nope. clicking on it displays the "busy" icon for a moment and that's it |
| 14:18:28 | salty-horse | audacious on linux can't play it neither, which is odd. vlc and mplayer are fine |
| 14:18:48 | salty-horse | I originally extracted the it as audio from an FLV file with mplayer |
| 14:19:14 | markun | I've also extracted files like that which play fine |
| 14:19:29 | amiconn | busy icon?? |
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| 14:20:47 | amiconn | markun: The big question is where to draw the line between offering all steps and going logarithmic |
| 14:21:13 | amiconn | All targets with backlight brightness are linear by default |
| 14:21:15 | markun | amiconn: yes, I don't know either. |
| 14:21:29 | amiconn | It's just the number of steps that differs |
| 14:21:54 | markun | for the Gigabeat with 64 steps it was quite a logical steps. But I see that some targets only have 13 steps. |
| 14:21:58 | amiconn | gigabeat has 64, video/nano have 32, h300 and x5 have 14 iirc |
| 14:22:01 | markun | I was expecting them to be logarithmic in the first place |
| 14:22:50 | pixelma | c200 has 12 steps |
| 14:23:02 | markun | do you have the same problem on those targets, that you can't tell the difference between the higher values? |
| 14:23:10 | amiconn | Well, pwm is intrinsically linear |
| 14:23:29 | markun | yes, nothing to do about it |
| 14:23:35 | markun | hm |
| 14:23:40 | salty-horse | amiconn, the "clock" icon at the top right |
| 14:24:04 | amiconn | You can always tell the difference, it's just that the steps look less different at higher values |
| 14:24:25 | markun | well, on the gigabeat you really couldn't tell between 63 and 62 |
| 14:24:45 | amiconn | salty-horse: Ah, you probably mean the disk activity icon... |
| 14:24:56 | * | amiconn wonders what the "ADTS" stands for |
| 14:25:00 | pixelma | markun: eyes are different as ears, maybe someon could? |
| 14:25:05 | pixelma | *someone |
| 14:25:39 | markun | yes, maybe there are videophiles who can spot such differences |
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| 14:26:30 | markun | or photophiles |
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| 14:27:02 | amiconn | Ah, Audio Data Transport Stream |
| 14:29:05 | amiconn | Sounds like this is some sort of container defined by mpeg2 |
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| 14:29:44 | amiconn | It should be possible to convert this into a pure mpeg 1 layer 3 audio file (lossless, i.e. without reencoding the actual audio data) |
| 14:30:07 | Xeeno | Do anyone know what battery capacity a 80gb ipod video should use? |
| 14:30:08 | markun | maybe another mplauyer -dumpaudio :) |
| 14:30:11 | markun | mplayer |
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| 14:34:06 | markun | salty-horse: can you try this: ffmpeg -i oldfile.mp3 -acodec copy newfile.mp3 |
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| 14:35:35 | markun | although it loses the id3 info |
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| 14:37:53 | markun | ffmpeg -i oldfile.mp3 -acodec copy -map_meta_data newfile.mp3:oldfile.mp3 newfile.mp3 |
| 14:37:56 | markun | that does the trick |
| 14:39:18 | salty-horse | what is it supposed to do? convert from what to what? |
| 14:44:57 | Nico_P | amiconn: have you seen my previous messages? |
| 14:47:40 | rasher | Bagder: I've built what looks like a useful buildserver vm - the only thing lacking before this is a turnkey solution is the ssh key |
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| 15:23:24 | markun | salty-horse: it removes the ADTS container |
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| 15:32:04 | salty-horse | markun, works! thanks a lot! why isn't ADTS implemented in rockbox? |
| 15:33:10 | markun | I think that not many people tryed to play those files in rockbox. Strange, because I see quite a few of them on my computer. |
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| 15:34:18 | markun | salty-horse: you could add it as a feature request to the tracker |
| 15:34:56 | salty-horse | thing is, I don't even know what the ADTS container is :/ wikipedia redirects to AAC without explanation |
| 15:35:16 | salty-horse | I don't know where the spec is, etc, but I could state that ffmpeg implements it |
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| 15:40:09 | linuxstb | salty-horse: If ffmpeg supports it, then the ffmpeg source code would be a good reference... |
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| 16:08:39 | salty-horse | linuxstb, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8518 |
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| 16:12:26 | linuxstb | salty-horse: But did your files contain AAC or MP3? |
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| 16:13:35 | salty-horse | I got that info from ffmpeg/various wikis. I'm not sure about my file: "MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1, 96 kBits, 44.1 kHz, JntStereo" |
| 16:14:17 | Eco1 | Hi, I think I broke my H300. when I try to boot it give me ATA error: -1 |
| 16:14:30 | linuxstb | Eco1: What did you do to break it? |
| 16:15:50 | Eco1 | well err, I sorta threw it up and court it again |
| 16:16:00 | Eco1 | I think it might be the HDD |
| 16:16:52 | n1s | Eco1: may be worth trying to reseat the dirve |
| 16:17:16 | Eco1 | ok cool how would I do that? |
| 16:17:50 | n1s | open it, disconnect the hd and connect it again |
| 16:17:50 | linuxstb | Disassemble your h300, remove the drive, then put it back together. |
| 16:18:11 | Eco1 | oh right I allready did that |
| 16:18:45 | n1s | so what happens if you try to connect it to a computer over usb |
| 16:18:46 | n1s | ? |
| 16:18:51 | linuxstb | Can you hear the disk do anything when you power your h300 on? |
| 16:18:59 | Eco1 | hmmmm |
| 16:20:34 | Eco1 | yeah I can hear it start up, but it doesnt sound too happy, a kind of grinding crunching noise |
| 16:21:13 | linuxstb | Think of it as an excuse to upgrade your h300 to a larger disk... |
| 16:21:31 | Eco1 | yeah cool |
| 16:21:52 | Eco1 | is there any way to save the stuff on it |
| 16:21:56 | linuxstb | See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
| 16:23:25 | Eco1 | I thought you could use the USB boot thingy to use usb even if your hard drive doesn't work |
| 16:23:41 | linuxstb | If the hard drive doesn't work, what would the usb do? |
| 16:24:25 | rasher | Eco1: that's more in the case of a corrupted harddisk, not an actual broken one |
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| 16:25:02 | Eco1 | yeah I guess that makes scenes? |
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| 16:32:04 | Eco1 | so could I get any drive that matches the size, thickness and pins of the original drive |
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| 16:33:56 | linuxstb | Yes, it needs to match the physical size - you can use higher capacity drives if you can find them though. |
| 16:35:14 | Eco1 | what about voltage, is that important? |
| 16:35:34 | markun | Eco1: this might help: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement |
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| 16:44:02 | Eco1 | ok! Thanks guys you really helped. I guess I get to upgrade my harddrive. |
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| 16:57:57 | Nico_P | seems someone found a way to improve things with the playback stuttering bugs: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15128.msg112899#msg112899 |
| 16:58:12 | Nico_P | I'm starting to think it might be database related |
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| 17:18:41 | Nico_P | Slasheri: do you think recent DB changes could cause more disk activity? |
| 17:26:15 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: Check yields in the update loop perhaps? |
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| 17:29:05 | pixelma | I think GodEater said that turning off auto-update made things a bit better on his Video, should be in this week's logs somewhere |
| 17:29:40 | Slasheri | Nico_P: yep, without dircache db update causes extensive disk activity during reverse scan |
| 17:30:03 | jhMikeS | what's reverse scan? |
| 17:30:10 | Slasheri | previously we just skipped reverse scan without dircache (and deleted files were not detected) |
| 17:30:25 | Slasheri | the detection of deleted files |
| 17:30:30 | x1jmp | is the pcm buffer in the crossfade code interleaved? |
| 17:30:54 | jhMikeS | x1jmp: it's part of pcmbuf.c |
| 17:31:10 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: and if all files are in a one directory, it's a very expensive operation to check if a file exists |
| 17:31:44 | x1jmp | jhMikeS: I found the code, but I don’t get how the buffer is organized |
| 17:31:45 | Slasheri | and that check will be done to all file entries in the db |
| 17:31:54 | jhMikeS | linsearch :\ |
| 17:32:45 | jhMikeS | I thought this problem showed up before always reverse scanning though |
| 17:33:52 | jhMikeS | though if you enumerate all files that do exist, the ones that are left don't which would speed things up I think |
| 17:34:05 | Slasheri | then the playback buffer could be too small or tagcache doesn't yield often enough |
| 17:34:24 | Slasheri | scheduler should prevent stuttering though (at least it previously did) |
| 17:34:34 | pixelma | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20080125#12:30:29 |
| 17:35:43 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: hmm, indeed! that could be a way to speed-up that scan a lot |
| 17:37:24 | Nico_P | sorry I was on the phone |
| 17:37:42 | Nico_P | Slasheri: I guess if the disk is used much, buffering will starve even if it gets CPU time |
| 17:37:56 | Nico_P | thus starving the codec and causing droputs |
| 17:38:08 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: during scan it could be possible to use 1 bit / entry of memory to mark files that are found. and after scan is complete, delete those entries that are not marked |
| 17:38:59 | Nico_P | Slasheri: also, do you think the gather runtime data is disk intensive? |
| 17:40:02 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: instead of DB to disk lookup, it's disk to DB if that can be searched quickly enough |
| 17:40:03 | Slasheri | that shouldn't be rather disk extensive. If db is loaded to ram, there is no need to read from disk when retrieving that data |
| 17:40:42 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: yep, that's true |
| 17:40:57 | Slasheri | and that phase is already quite fast |
| 17:41:43 | Slasheri | so it would be possible to drop that "reverse phase" |
| 17:43:23 | x1jmp | can someone point me to some information about the organization of the pcm buffer (data type, interleaving)? |
| 17:44:02 | jhMikeS | x1jmp: everything is 16-bit interleaved stereo at that stage (post-DSP) |
| 17:44:58 | x1jmp | that’s what I needed to know! |
| 17:48:51 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: btw, is read_lock write lock needed now? mutexes will now allow reentry by the thread that owns it and balanced unlocks release it. |
| 17:50:04 | Slasheri | hmm, then it could be a good idea to replace those with mutexes |
| 17:50:33 | Slasheri | those are needed when writing something internally to db to prevent accessing it from outside |
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| 18:42:06 | * | jhMikeS wonders about most of these MPEGPlayer "Known Bugs" which most seem to need to be deleted |
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| 18:52:42 | Imper | Hmmm, I'm having some trouble tracking down the answer to this question. Could someone help me with them, because I'd really like to start using Rockbox. Is there a driver I can download so I can access my Sansa e200 Rockbox firmware from within XP so I can transfer music to it? I've found I can turn off the Sansa, connect the USB, and it will work like original, but I'd like a little... |
| 18:52:44 | Imper | ...more convenience. |
| 18:53:16 | BigBambi | Rockbox currently does not have a USB stack on the portalplayer targets |
| 18:53:23 | BigBambi | This includes the E200 |
| 18:53:37 | BigBambi | Until it does, you must use the original firmware to transfer files |
| 18:54:07 | BigBambi | As the front page of www.rockbox.org says, "New USB stack with limited capability. Currently it only requests full charging power. Ignore driver popups from Windows" |
| 18:54:08 | Imper | Oh, thank you BigBambi, you don't know how much I appreciate a quick and simple answer. |
| 18:54:20 | BigBambi | No problem |
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| 18:55:08 | crzyboyster | Any viewports devs around? |
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| 18:55:44 | crzyboyster | Are there plans for supporting the album art conditional along with viewports? |
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| 18:58:30 | jhMikeS | Llorean: does your statement about "performance" of mpegplayer (post rebuffer/av sync) still hold in any relevant way? (in Wiki) |
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| 19:05:44 | Llorean | jhMikeS: I'm not even sure what statement you're referring to. I highly doubt it. |
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| 19:06:10 | Llorean | Ah |
| 19:06:20 | jhMikeS | I'll just erase it then :P |
| 19:06:24 | Llorean | I see it |
| 19:06:43 | Llorean | There were reports of people getting framedropping after a change when they didn't before, I *think* you fixed that by making the framedropper less aggressive, i'm not sure |
| 19:06:56 | Llorean | But either way, I think performance is up across the board, so it doesn't really matter |
| 19:07:44 | jhMikeS | I think the only thing is headphone plug detection. There's no problems caused by plugging but it doesn't response to it. I wouldn't consider that a bug but a feature that needs implementing. |
| 19:07:57 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 19:08:14 | Llorean | As long as plugging/unplugging doesn't break anything, then it's just a missing feature. |
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| 19:09:26 | jhMikeS | I just tried it and nothing breaks. It's just ignored. |
| 19:09:54 | jhMikeS | Which what should happen since there's no handling of it. :) |
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| 19:17:08 | jhMikeS | where's the guide on this whack wiki syntax? |
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| 19:18:06 | jhMikeS | right in front of /me I see :p |
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| 19:25:44 | jhMikeS | Are "Known Bugs" supposed to be BUGS with a capital "UGS" and not obscure quirks only I know about? :p |
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| 20:01:47 | Llorean | jhMikeS: I'd go with "Document every single quirk, so people don't file against them" |
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| 20:05:42 | markun | jhMikeS: in mpegplayer.c I see case MPEG_MENU_QUIT, but it's not defined anywhere, is it? |
| 20:06:17 | markun | or is it a result from the mpegdecoder? |
| 20:06:43 | jhMikeS | markun: that's returned from the menu routine |
| 20:08:50 | markun | I'm adding support for the Gigabeat remote |
| 20:09:37 | jhMikeS | Llorean: that's a tall order if I use the standard of "anything not quite brought to utmost perfection is a quirk" which is how it tends to be. :p |
| 20:10:00 | Llorean | Hahaha |
| 20:10:28 | Llorean | Well, what you think people might encounter. :-P |
| 20:10:41 | jhMikeS | markun: so the preview screen and the WVS just need some defines? |
| 20:11:11 | markun | yes, I'll show you the patch in a minute |
| 20:13:21 | jhMikeS | Llorean: If noone's said anything yet, I doubt they will since it takes about 2-seconds to notice. There's that occasional jump when hiding the WVS. Sometimes a frame isn't available to repaint the area when hidden or when paused and hiding it, the next frame waiting is painted instead. The last two would require extraction of a frame be done. On devices that actually shut they're LCD down when the backlight is off, if it's paused, the frame |
| 20:14:13 | Llorean | Sounds pretty minor? |
| 20:14:43 | jhMikeS | There's nothing I know about that would cause a crash or failure of any kind. |
| 20:15:02 | Llorean | Then yeah, maybe say "Various minor graphical glitches"? |
| 20:18:07 | markun | jhMikeS: ok to commit? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/mpegplayer_rc_gigabeat.patch |
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| 20:20:39 | jhMikeS | markun: looks good. what about the preview screen? |
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| 20:21:31 | markun | didn't look at it. What is the use of the preview screen excatly? |
| 20:22:26 | jhMikeS | Llorean: actually I thought of something. it will crash if the video is too large or a corrupt repeat sequence header is found that looks valid but has a large size. it will run out of memory but try to use NULL pointers instead. |
| 20:23:17 | jhMikeS | markun: a way of browsing outside playback and has larger seek granularity (with certain buttons) |
| 20:23:28 | markun | where ok |
| 20:23:41 | jhMikeS | in mpeg_settings.c |
| 20:24:10 | jhMikeS | you need the start menu enabled to get at it |
| 20:24:51 | markun | yes, I've found it |
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| 20:52:26 | markun | jhMikeS: is this too messy? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/mpegplayer_unplug.patch |
| 20:57:43 | jhMikeS | no, but the status snapshot should stay rather than reading it twice |
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| 20:59:19 | jhMikeS | should it start playing if the user paused it deliberately then plugs in the phones? what about the global settings for different actions? |
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| 21:03:17 | Llorean | I don't even know what music does under that circumstance |
| 21:03:58 | Nico_P | Llorean: I think it doesn't unpause |
| 21:05:37 | jhMikeS | it does unpause (just tested it) |
| 21:06:10 | Llorean | I'd consider that a bug. |
| 21:06:22 | Llorean | At the same time, I don't think mpegplayer should act differently than music in regard to that |
| 21:06:24 | jhMikeS | HP detection needs to be have a much longer timeout with a debouncer |
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| 21:09:53 | markun | jhMikeS: so, better not commit that one yet? |
| 21:11:11 | markun | I could also make separate cases for unplug and plug to make the code a bit easier to read (and not read the status 2 times for the pause button) |
| 21:11:26 | markun | but it would make the binary a bit bigger |
| 21:11:27 | jhMikeS | I think it should wait unless it observes user settings. |
| 21:13:20 | jhMikeS | Not by much and it can handle the differences between phones and explicit pause/resume more cleanly. |
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| 21:26:38 | thgz | hi |
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| 21:27:00 | jhMikeS | Llorean: you don't think it should be implemented properly instead of intentionally implementing a bug for consistency's sake? the WPS should follow up with its own glitches fixed imo. |
| 21:28:26 | thgz | When I play some music and stop it either by pressing stop or shutdowning the device and start playing again, the file starts from the beginning or skips to a next track... I told this problem here some days ago but looked more to it. If I reset my config and remove .playlist_control file, all is working fine some time. |
| 21:28:32 | thgz | I'm using SAnsa E250 |
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| 21:34:31 | markun | ZFS is a great tool to crash your system! (if you use FreeBSD and didn't read the warning that one of your settings was wrong) |
| 21:35:08 | rasher | markun: how does Rockbox cope with arabic text? |
| 21:35:53 | fml | Good afternoon/evening. In screens.c, the pitch related funcs are guarded by HAVE_PITCHSCREEN, but in sound.h, they are guarded with CONFIG_CODEC == ... Shouldn't that be unified? I'd prefer HAVE_PITCHSCREEN everywhere. |
| 21:35:54 | markun | rasher: besides left aligning it should handle them pretty well |
| 21:35:55 | markun | why? |
| 21:35:55 | fml | ...since HAVE_PITCHSCREEN is defined (or not) in the target specific config files. |
| 21:36:29 | fml | markun: that was an answer for you but rather the end of my previous phrase |
| 21:36:43 | fml | markun: that was *not* an answer ... |
| 21:36:49 | markun | fml: I know :) |
| 21:37:14 | markun | and my "why" was for rasher (just to be clear) |
| 21:37:59 | fml | markun: Have you an opinion about my question? Do I miss something in the way things are protected by #if.. in rockbox? |
| 21:38:00 | rasher | markun: Just curious - a guy's emailed me, and is now doing arabic translation. Actually he said he's done, but he's having charset trouble. Anyway, he asked about arabic font rendering |
| 21:38:20 | markun | I worked a lot on arabic rendering |
| 21:38:34 | markun | but if he can point out what's wrong I can take a look again |
| 21:38:39 | markun | it's not saab_rider, is it? |
| 21:38:52 | markun | he told me he was going to work on an arabic translation as well |
| 21:38:53 | rasher | markun: I don't think he's having any trouble - just asking |
| 21:39:17 | rasher | markun: I don't think it is, he signs himself as Olaimi |
| 21:39:39 | markun | no, that's probably not him. I'll send him a message to wait :) |
| 21:40:27 | markun | I'm very curious what rockbox will look like in arabic. |
| 21:41:21 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Yes, but at the same time, some people might not realize (or consider) it a bug, in which case it's simply conflicting behaviours. |
| 21:41:33 | markun | saab researched some manuals of audio equipment to find the right translation for all those technical terms. Maybe he should take a look at it before we commit. |
| 21:42:29 | rasher | markun: or after? Having a slightly broken translation is better than none, or a long delay |
| 21:42:35 | markun | yes, after is also fine |
| 21:42:49 | markun | well, better :) |
| 21:44:06 | rasher | I think as long as it's reasonable, it should be committed, translations aren't as important to Get Right as code |
| 21:45:12 | markun | and hopefully people who use them will be annoyed enough by the mistakes to submit patches |
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| 21:45:50 | rasher | That's the idea |
| 21:46:31 | jhMikeS | Llorean: that's true but did anyone even nickpick about before today? :) |
| 21:47:38 | Llorean | I dunno |
| 21:48:36 | markun | jhMikeS: what about a "speed test" option in mpegplayer which switches fpslimit, framedrop and dithering off, starts from the beginning and shows a screen with min, max and average fps at the end? |
| 21:48:59 | markun | should the average value go in the wiki table? |
| 21:50:10 | jhMikeS | markun: I think it's better to do that than display the bar since that influences thing. I think dithering should stay on since benchmarking can be useful for that. |
| 21:50:38 | markun | or maybe do 2 runs and print with dithering on and off |
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| 21:51:22 | jhMikeS | min/max is tricky |
| 21:52:10 | markun | perhaps even do runs without audio and without image? |
| 21:52:42 | jhMikeS | without buffering too :P |
| 21:52:46 | markun | :) |
| 21:52:55 | linuxstb_ | fml: Those #defines aren't equivalent - the MAS codec implements pitch in hardware, on other targets it's in software. So only the MAS targets have those functions in firmware/, and hence those #defines |
| 21:52:55 | jhMikeS | actually it could prefill in advance |
| 21:54:20 | jhMikeS | at some point you're no longer doing anything that represents playback and just some subsystems are being benchmarked in isolation which might be better served in a test plugin |
| 21:55:03 | markun | yes, true. Let's just do 1 test for now with dithering on. |
| 21:55:39 | markun | I miss dithering in other video players sometimes |
| 21:56:38 | jhMikeS | whichs others do you watch video on? |
| 21:58:42 | markun | mplayer usually |
| 21:58:49 | markun | vlc for digital TV |
| 21:58:57 | Llorean | mplayer dithers, doesn't it? |
| 21:58:57 | markun | sometimes ffplay |
| 21:59:01 | markun | does it? |
| 21:59:05 | Llorean | I'm almost certain it does. |
| 21:59:14 | Llorean | Well, maybe it depends on which output mode you use |
| 21:59:48 | fml | linuxstb: aha, now I see! But in the apps code, I think, HAVE_PITCHSCREEN should be used, right? |
| 21:59:48 | markun | for some videos I have to use -vo x11, which also looks better but uses more CPU |
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| 22:00:09 | Llorean | I think -vo x11 is the only one that works properly on my system. |
| 22:00:58 | rasher | Slasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7598#comment21018 |
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| 22:01:21 | fml | linuxstb_: same for you (see three lines above) |
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| 22:01:28 | markun | -xv also works fine, but not for very high resolutions |
| 22:01:35 | Llorean | Wait. |
| 22:01:40 | Llorean | -xv sounds more right. |
| 22:01:56 | markun | -vo xv I mean of course |
| 22:02:08 | Llorean | I'm not on my linux box right now. I think thought that I use xv, which is fine except it turns blue if something translucent moves over it. |
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| 22:03:00 | Llorean | But I'm almost certain whatever I use does some dithering. I think that's one of my favorite features of our mpegplayer now. It drastically improves apparent quality (to me) |
| 22:03:08 | linuxstb_ | fml: Maybe, although again that may be to do with the different way pitch is implemented on hwcodec vs swcodec. |
| 22:03:58 | markun | Llorean: also, bright red things look very blocky on my computer with xv |
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| 22:05:49 | Llorean | Either way, I think any tests should be done with dithering on, with the assumption that people will want/use it |
| 22:06:04 | fml | linuxstb_: ok, I'll check. But IMHO the idea was that in the end we have se_pitch and get_pitch that are implemented specifically for different targets. |
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| 22:07:35 | filthpig | has there been any progress on 2nd gen ipod nano? |
| 22:07:43 | BigBambi | no |
| 22:07:59 | BigBambi | no-one is working on it |
| 22:08:14 | BigBambi | (that we know of) |
| 22:08:44 | filthpig | why is the 2nd gen so hard to crack? :/ |
| 22:09:00 | jhMikeS | Llorean: force dithering to be on? why not just test with user preferences? |
| 22:09:01 | BigBambi | encrypted firmware, new undocumented hardware |
| 22:09:19 | Llorean | filthpig: It may not be any harder than any other encrypted, undocumented player. But nobody's working on it, so it really doesn't matter how hard it is. |
| 22:09:27 | linuxstb_ | It's also pretty dull hardware... |
| 22:09:46 | pixelma | jhMikeS: btw. a bit late but the bar in mpegplayer is also not readable on the c200 display which is probably too slow. |
| 22:10:01 | BigBambi | filthpig: Ports are done by owners that want to |
| 22:10:13 | Llorean | jhMikeS: No, I don't mean force it on. I just meant that speed test should respect dithering, and if we post our own tests they should be with dithering on. |
| 22:10:45 | jhMikeS | pixelma: could you do a screen shot so I can see precisely what you mean by that? |
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| 22:11:09 | filthpig | do you need a lot of insight to do this? |
| 22:11:11 | filthpig | (I'm typing very slow cus I'm learning Dvorak, bear with me ;) |
| 22:11:12 | Slasheri | rasher: looks much better, probably going to commit that soon |
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| 22:11:22 | BigBambi | filthpig: yes |
| 22:11:28 | jhMikeS | pixelma: or you meant the FPS bar? |
| 22:11:35 | pixelma | I thought you were talking about the fps info on top of the screen... yes |
| 22:11:49 | Nico_P | Slasheri: what are you going to commit? |
| 22:11:52 | BigBambi | filthpig: http://mysticrivermovie.warnerbros.com/ |
| 22:11:56 | BigBambi | ooops |
| 22:11:58 | * | jhMikeS was worried pixlma was talking about the WVS bar |
| 22:12:02 | Slasheri | Nico_P: multivolume dircache |
| 22:12:03 | filthpig | lol |
| 22:12:06 | Nico_P | ah |
| 22:12:09 | BigBambi | that was a previous failed attempt to remember misticriver website! |
| 22:12:22 | BigBambi | filthpig: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 22:14:05 | pixelma | jhMikeS: nah, that is fine to read (for me). Just wanted to second the suggestion about an info screen at the end |
| 22:14:20 | filthpig | Take it apart |
| 22:14:20 | filthpig | However trivial this may sound, this is step 1 and it may require various degrees of violence. |
| 22:15:00 | filthpig | I can see how this applies to nano 2nd gen |
| 22:15:04 | filthpig | lol |
| 22:15:17 | Horscht | step 2: ? |
| 22:15:19 | BigBambi | filthpig: You will be able to find some previous nano 2nd gen scans on the web, I'm sure |
| 22:15:21 | Horscht | step 3: profit |
| 22:15:42 | scorche|sh | Horscht: please stay on topic... |
| 22:16:00 | linuxstb_ | filthpig: There are two difficulties to overcome in the newer ipods before a port can even start - 1) Finding a way to run third-party code; 2) Finding a way to decrypt and disassemble the original firmware to enable reverse-engineering of the hardware. |
| 22:16:05 | jhMikeS | I'd also suggest a duration for the tests since a wraparound by video will block it since no stream is allow to overrun another and things ultimately progress at the rate of the slowest one |
| 22:16:11 | BigBambi | However, even if all the chips are identified (they are all Apple branded, but IIRC the main one is a Samsung SoC), good luck finding any docs at all |
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| 22:17:27 | filthpig | heh |
| 22:17:28 | filthpig | bah |
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| 22:18:46 | filthpig | I guess I'll just buy one where ports exist, then :( |
| 22:19:00 | linuxstb_ | Or buy one of the many devices Rockbox already runs on... |
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| 22:21:00 | filthpig | I might just go for a sandisk sansa... |
| 22:21:32 | BigBambi | filthpig: Be aware that rockbox does not run on the v2 |
| 22:21:39 | BigBambi | of either E200 or c200 |
| 22:22:03 | BigBambi | And if you buy one new you will very likely get a v2 |
| 22:22:41 | filthpig | :s |
| 22:23:00 | Bagder | it'll give you a good incentive to work on the v2 port ;-P |
| 22:23:33 | filthpig | lol |
| 22:23:35 | filthpig | bah |
| 22:23:38 | filthpig | well |
| 22:24:09 | rasher | filthpig: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200v2#How_to_identify_an_e200_v2 |
| 22:24:19 | filthpig | do you recommend some player in particular? |
| 22:24:26 | BigBambi | Depends what you want |
| 22:24:35 | BigBambi | Check out the BuyersGuide on the wiki |
| 22:25:18 | rasher | I'd get a gigabeat f, or a sansa e200, depending on what I was after. Don't know how hard gigabeats are to get though. |
| 22:25:22 | filthpig | preferably 4 or 8 gb and good sound |
| 22:25:30 | BigBambi | e200 then |
| 22:25:33 | BigBambi | But a v1 |
| 22:25:57 | BigBambi | (or c200) |
| 22:26:00 | Imper | I had enormous luck with a previous question, so hoping a second try will be just as fruitful. With my Sansa e200 I experience lots of lag from time-to-time, freezes for a few seconds. Is this normal? If not, what have I done wrong? |
| 22:26:28 | filthpig | which I probably will have to buy 2nd hand? |
| 22:26:31 | BigBambi | Imper: Which version of rockbox, what format of music, lag in what, ... |
| 22:26:42 | BigBambi | filthpig: Probably, maybe |
| 22:27:06 | rasher | filthpig: probably also depends where you live |
| 22:27:21 | filthpig | norway |
| 22:27:50 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: did you try sendfirm on a linux live CD in the end? |
| 22:27:52 | rasher | I wouldn't be surprised if you could come across a v1 sansa then |
| 22:28:21 | filthpig | how come? |
| 22:28:33 | filthpig | we're pretty much bleeding edge |
| 22:29:00 | BigBambi | nah, we all know Norway is third world :) |
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| 22:29:16 | rasher | Well I've just noticed that older models hang around longer, at least here in Denmark. Saw an Iriver h300 practically years after they were discontinued |
| 22:29:18 | filthpig | lol |
| 22:29:34 | rasher | You'd probably need to go through brick&mortar stores though. |
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| 22:29:55 | BigBambi | filthpig: It is probably just pot luck - depends on how much stock was there, how many they move, etc. etc. |
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| 22:30:22 | filthpig | yeah |
| 22:30:26 | BigBambi | filthpig: But as rasher says, go to a proper store - 1) They are more likely to have old stock, 2) At least you can try and check |
| 22:30:44 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: I haven't tried that yet. I have some "TODO" stuff that was annoying me and I want out of the way first. Shouldn't be long. |
| 22:30:59 | Nico_P | no rush, just curious |
| 22:31:41 | rasher | filthpig: and if you find a sansa on a webshop, mail them and ask if it supports Audible. If it does, don't buy. |
| 22:32:30 | filthpig | okay |
| 22:32:40 | Imper | BigBambi: Guess it's version r16172, just installed it today. MP3s (192) and WMAs (96). The biggest place I notice it is when going to the music selection, every time I view a music list it says "Searching... 0 Found" and lags there for two or three seconds. |
| 22:33:01 | BigBambi | Imper: In the database? |
| 22:34:42 | Imper | BigBambi: Yes. One situation where it hits me most is in the Now Playing screen, hitting the select button to pull up the songs in queue lags it badly. Also noticed that it takes a second or two for the screen to turn on. |
| 22:35:34 | Llorean | Hitting the select button doesn't bring up the queue |
| 22:35:46 | Llorean | It goes to wherever you called the WPS from (or follows the playlist, depending on settings) |
| 22:36:05 | Llorean | Which would be the database, if you launched it from the database. |
| 22:36:10 | Llorean | So, does it happen on non-database screens? |
| 22:36:18 | Imper | Yeah, just figured that out while I was playing Llorean... still learning this wonderful firmware. |
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| 22:36:44 | * | BigBambi points at the manual as a great aid for learning the keymap :) |
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| 22:39:02 | Imper | Here's one point where it just irritates me... telling me I need to stop doing it. On the Rockbox Info button, hitting the select button pops up 'Scanning disk...', preventing me from doing anything for a few minutes. I've run in to a few things around like that. What I'm thinking now that I start talking about all this, all the lag may be completely my fault. |
| 22:39:57 | BigBambi | Well, the rescanning disk is an intended feature to calculate the free space |
| 22:40:24 | BigBambi | Windows does not properly update the FAT with free space info, so we have this option to recheck it if the user requests it |
| 22:41:08 | rasher | not terribly good feedback though |
| 22:41:18 | BigBambi | rasher: Indeed not, no |
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| 22:42:20 | BigBambi | Imper: Perhaps if you write down what you do from startup and where you get the delays (using the terms for screens from the manual so we don't get confused), we can look at whether it is a problem or just it is doing something 'correct' you don't expect |
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| 22:43:26 | filthpig | this question might be a bit taboo in here, but what's the name of that other open source firmware? |
| 22:43:40 | BigBambi | filthpig: iPodLinux? ArchOpen? |
| 22:43:44 | BigBambi | For which players? |
| 22:43:55 | Llorean | There's also supposedly one for the s1mp3 players, can't remember its name. |
| 22:44:18 | Bagder | none matches rockbox in features nor in target coverage |
| 22:44:19 | BigBambi | filthpig: iPodLinux doesn't run on any more iPods than Rockbox does |
| 22:44:20 | filthpig | hmm |
| 22:44:33 | filthpig | can't remember... |
| 22:45:00 | BigBambi | And as Bagder says, rockbox runs on more targets and has more features than any of the others. |
| 22:45:40 | filthpig | ok, I'm just curious |
| 22:46:04 | BigBambi | Curiosity is good |
| 22:46:23 | filthpig | I've got a night to waste, so why not ;) |
| 22:46:32 | Imper | BigBambi: Was writing some long response, but noticed it was mainly fluff and starting over. I'll most certainly take a close look at what I'm doing in the future, that should tell me if these bits of lag are my fault or not. Thank you for your patient assistance. |
| 22:47:40 | BigBambi | Imper: no worries, there are some issues at the moment with stuttering playback and excess disk activity at the moment under sertain circumstances, so it is good to ascertain whether you are suffering from that, something else, or just a misunderstanding! |
| 22:48:00 | BigBambi | s/sertain/certain D'oh! |
| 22:48:42 | Nico_P | Imper: you're experiencing the playback stuttering issues? |
| 22:49:11 | BigBambi | Nico_P: I don't think so, but I'mn not sure |
| 22:49:54 | BigBambi | Nico_P: I think it is UI lag in the database maybe, but wasn't too clear from the description :) |
| 22:50:14 | Imper | Nico_P: No stuttering issues... well had one file I was playing earlier start stuttering when I scrolled through the Database, but that was such a unique I wasn't surprised in the least. |
| 22:50:29 | Nico_P | ok |
| 22:55:58 | rasher | Llorean: I think they just call it s1mp3 |
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| 22:57:00 | rasher | I have a hard time figuring out what kind of progress they have though |
| 22:58:33 | Llorean | rasher: They used to have a name for the firmware, but as far as I determined they never really got far |
| 22:59:45 | rasher | Swan project? |
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| 23:01:43 | rasher | There sure are a lot of players based on these chips |
| 23:05:32 | markun | also, I start to see more and more players with a Rockchip CPU |
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| 23:30:17 | * | rasher boggles at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/OldPluginIndex?type=history |
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