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| 00:01:58 | crzyboyster | Where are the background menu images for cabbie 2.0 stored in SVN? |
| 00:02:01 | RogerBacon | holy .... this is the 2 ugliest player i ever see .. : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/ArchosOndio/comparison.jpg |
| 00:02:21 | crzyboyster | Never mind, found it. |
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| 00:07:17 | crzyboyster | New version of the 160x128x2 port at > http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443 |
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| 00:17:01 | crzyboyster | I think that a new "fix patch" for cabbie 2.0 should be committed which includes the fixed e200 and the new 160x128x2 version |
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| 00:17:55 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/02/02/rockbox-downloads-jan-2008/ |
| 00:18:48 | Bagder | subtitled "the sandisk race" |
| 00:19:01 | BigBambi | Bagder: Does -1 there mean it went up 1? Surely that should be +1 ? |
| 00:19:17 | Bagder | hehe, yeah perhaps |
| 00:19:25 | rasher | I was about to ask that... having the top one be -1 seems awfully wrong |
| 00:19:27 | Bagder | I'll change |
| 00:19:28 | BigBambi | It looks very odd to me like that |
| 00:19:42 | BigBambi | coolio :) |
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| 00:20:55 | Bagder | ok, changed |
| 00:20:56 | BigBambi | Bagder: That's better :) |
| 00:21:09 | pixelma | crzyboyster: could you try avoiding thumbs.db files in your zips, please? :) |
| 00:21:46 | BigBambi | Quite popular this little project |
| 00:21:59 | rasher | Bagder: nice stats, though few surprises (except rec8mb is above recv2 and fmrecorder) |
| 00:22:15 | BigBambi | c200 surprises me a little |
| 00:22:58 | BigBambi | especially as sansa = e200 (no tell pixelma) |
| 00:23:02 | BigBambi | :) |
| 00:23:10 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:23:38 | crzyboyster | pixelma: Sorry about that! It won't happen again, but for some reason my windows computer like spitting them out even though they're disabled... |
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| 00:25:32 | Bagder | 224321 unique visitors on the www.rockbox.org site during jan-2008... |
| 00:26:00 | BigBambi | At least four of those were me :) |
| 00:26:42 | Bagder | oh, then make that 224317+bigbambi ;-P |
| 00:26:53 | BigBambi | :) |
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| 00:29:57 | BigBambi | Whilst we are on the subject, I'd like to say I enjoy your blog Bagder - interesting and insightful |
| 00:30:18 | Bagder | thanks! |
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| 00:34:48 | pixelma | Bagder: was it Cassandra who wrote wpsbuild.pl? |
| 00:35:37 | Bagder | I wrote it initially, but she's modified it |
| 00:36:19 | rasher | Actually, svn blame gives you the complete blame |
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| 00:36:56 | rasher | err no |
| 00:37:07 | pixelma | ah, I'm just asking because the latest changes don't seem clever enough to me (note: this is just my impression, my klowledge about perl is >< this big) |
| 00:37:07 | rasher | But http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/wps/wpsbuild.pl?annotate=7863 does. Odd |
| 00:37:35 | rasher | Ignore me. |
| 00:37:40 | Bagder | I'll admit I haven't looked at saratoga's changes |
| 00:38:30 | pixelma | example, I can find "line selector start color: fde89e" in a cfg made for M5 |
| 00:39:44 | Bagder | the script does extract lcd depth so those things should be easy to fix |
| 00:39:58 | crzyboyster | How is the whole unifont version going to work out? |
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| 00:40:35 | pixelma | Bagder: and some settings (like the colour settings) are listed multiple times for each colour display separately even though there are all the same |
| 00:40:52 | pixelma | in WPSLIST, I mean |
| 00:42:21 | pixelma | I would think it's possible to list it once and include it for all colour displays... as you say it could IIUC |
| 00:43:30 | Bagder | yes |
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| 00:50:17 | XavierGr | wow Bger is here! Hello Bger long time no see! :) |
| 00:50:41 | XavierGr | bah gone :( |
| 00:51:16 | Bagder | hahaha |
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| 00:55:03 | pixelma | looks interesting to have a M5 and X5 sim with −−background next to each other... |
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| 01:06:55 | saratoga3 | if anyone sees things i've missed in the build script, please let me know |
| 01:07:09 | saratoga3 | i honestly don't have any idea what most of those fields even do |
| 01:08:05 | pixelma | saratoga3: do we really need this many defines for the cabbiev2 in WPSLIST? I mean, why not define "selector type" once and make the wpsbuild.pl use it for all colour targets' cfg files? And what is the min width and height for? |
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| 01:08:59 | |NSA| | (+7) sansac200 3490 [2841] << that was due to w00t |
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| 01:09:52 | |NSA| | they had like 20k of them going for $16 a pop, most of the buyers were those who planned to put rockbox on it |
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| 01:10:10 | saratoga3 | pixelma: min height and width don't do anything, but IIRC the wiki says to include them |
| 01:10:17 | saratoga3 | i assumed they were for some future feature or something |
| 01:11:23 | pixelma | I don't see it in any other WPSs (iCatcher is as complete as cabbie, except it has no gradient settings etc.) |
| 01:12:28 | saratoga3 | pixelma: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SubmitWPS |
| 01:13:50 | pixelma | but that page doesn't describe what you have to include in WPSLIST, no? |
| 01:14:53 | pixelma | saratoga3: since I'm about to commit changes there anyways, could I just scratch that part? |
| 01:16:21 | saratoga3 | pixelma: I'm also about to commit changes, maybe we should discuss this |
| 01:16:38 | pixelma | what changes? |
| 01:16:55 | saratoga3 | would you change the mix12 font for cabbie to helvR10? |
| 01:17:00 | saratoga3 | that way i don't have to touch that file |
| 01:17:13 | saratoga3 | i can just upload the changed wps for it when you're done |
| 01:17:24 | pixelma | yes, I already have the patch from the tracker in my tree... |
| 01:17:46 | saratoga3 | ah even better |
| 01:17:48 | pixelma | there was one by crzyboyster (he was around a few minutes ago) |
| 01:18:08 | saratoga3 | did you add the sansa fix i haven't bothered to committ yet? |
| 01:18:34 | pixelma | and I also made the rwps inclusion iCatcher style (and it works correctly here) |
| 01:18:44 | saratoga3 | but sure, please make any changes you see fit |
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| 01:18:50 | pixelma | no (about the sansa fix) |
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| 01:19:12 | saratoga3 | would you? i think its just replacing one wps file for another |
| 01:19:38 | pixelma | sure, there was also a patch in the tracker, right? |
| 01:20:41 | pixelma | ok, patch is a bit of an exaggeration here :) |
| 01:22:32 | pixelma | saratoga3: just checking... is there something else? |
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| 01:24:10 | crzyboyster | As for which version of the fixed e200 version to commit, the one on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443 and posted on "Tuesday, 22 January 2008, 23:40 GMT" should be the one. NOT the one seperately on the patch tracker |
| 01:24:35 | pixelma | saratoga3: and last thing I prepared - the iaudio rwps backdrop was the wrong one (from the unicode version) now the right one |
| 01:26:18 | pixelma | crzyboyster: ok, thanks |
| 01:26:34 | saratoga3 | does SVN deal with overwriting binary files with unchanged versions? |
| 01:26:43 | saratoga3 | i am afraid to do that for fear that it will think they've changed |
| 01:27:07 | crzyboyster | The one on this page (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443) will have the following changes: wps files, progressbars, and background images |
| 01:27:22 | crzyboyster | (That should be all, I think) |
| 01:27:48 | pixelma | crzyboyster: but the only thing changed for e200 is only in the .wps, right? |
| 01:28:45 | pixelma | saratoga3: no idea, really |
| 01:30:44 | crzyboyster | Let me find out for sure... |
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| 01:31:49 | crzyboyster | It's all that's included in the post from "Tuesday, 22 January 2008, 23:40 GMT" attachment |
| 01:32:17 | crzyboyster | wps file, progressbar and background file |
| 01:40:05 | pixelma | crzyboyster: ok, the progressbar is a little wider overall now (if I have the right files)? |
| 01:43:17 | crzyboyster | Yes, that is the way ZincAlloy intended to make them, but they were not committed that way |
| 01:43:50 | saratoga3 | pixelma: do you know much about the wps paser itself in rockbox? |
| 01:44:03 | saratoga3 | i've been hacking it up trying to figure out all the settings we need to make cabbie a default font |
| 01:44:12 | saratoga3 | but its sort of hard since i have no idea what most of the stuff does |
| 01:44:25 | saratoga3 | right now i can do font, backdrop and wps file but not the rest |
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| 01:45:18 | pixelma | I only know the wps syntax from a user pov and that Nico_P is the one to blame for the parser ;) |
| 01:46:32 | pixelma | saratoga3: got the rest ready. Shall I dump the min height and width things... yes or yes? :) |
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| 02:13:31 | A_lil_man | hello. Someone know a good site to get 176*132(thats ipod nano first gen) size wallpapers? |
| 02:15:43 | A_lil_man | ?? |
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| 02:24:33 | jac0b | I have tried the commit for 29 Jan 06:57 that uses playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists" but it doesn't work |
| 02:24:47 | jac0b | atleast in the sim |
| 02:25:01 | pixelma | did you try after today's fix too? |
| 02:25:27 | jac0b | I will try it now |
| 02:25:49 | rasher | jac0b: It's generally a good idea to do this before saying that something doesn't work. |
| 02:26:13 | jac0b | I was tring it on r16195-080202 build |
| 02:27:04 | jac0b | trying* |
| 02:29:11 | jac0b | it still doesn't save the playlist to the directory I want |
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| 02:29:50 | countrymonkey | Just checking out what's happening here. |
| 02:30:04 | jac0b | just tried it on r16196 |
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| 02:44:02 | PaulJam | with the latest changes in mpegplayer i get audio dropouts when it rebuffers. :( |
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| 02:46:27 | Llorean | PaulJam: Well he did say it'd get a bit less performance. If your videos are encoded depending on the upper limit of performance, they could be expected to have dropouts now |
| 02:48:16 | PaulJam | oh, i didn't read that the performance is expected to be lower. |
| 02:49:12 | Llorean | Do you have any settings like crossfeed or equalizer enabled? |
| 02:51:20 | PaulJam | no, they are all set to "force off" in the mpegplayer settings |
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| 02:52:49 | PaulJam | i'm trying the elephantsdream video now... |
| 02:53:04 | Llorean | See how many FPS you can get if you disable the limits. |
| 02:54:39 | PaulJam | ok |
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| 03:08:28 | PaulJam | Llorean: without the limits i get ~23.5 FPS average and with i get ~21 FPS (and audio drops out when rebuffering) |
| 03:08:56 | PaulJam | i don't think the performance is too bad. |
| 03:10:22 | jhMikeS | PaulJam: which player? |
| 03:10:28 | PaulJam | H300 |
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| 03:14:57 | jhMikeS | All my coldfire checks showed that I could run every effect at once without dropouts or even much framerate loss but may I have a clue. I came across on a couple on gigabeat during what I think were long wait times for the harddisk to be ready (long head seeks). |
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| 03:17:19 | PaulJam | i had the impression that the dropout happens while the disk is spinning up. maybe i should mention that i don't use the original harddrive, but a MK4007GAL instead. |
| 03:19:07 | jhMikeS | Right now I'm looking in the thread priority evaluation in thread.c. I've been suspicious of my own changes there and it might be wise to rethink it a bit. |
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| 03:25:02 | PaulJam | jhMikeS: i now held the player to my ear and i get a dropout while the disk spins up (before it even starts reading) and then a very short dropout when it spins down again. |
| 03:35:57 | jhMikeS | Want to test a patch? I just want to run another check real quick first. |
| 03:36:18 | PaulJam | sure |
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| 03:43:56 | jhMikeS | PaulJam: jhmikes.cleansoap.org/priority_x_fix.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/priority_x_fix.diff |
| 03:44:34 | PaulJam | thanks, i'll try it |
| 03:45:38 | jhMikeS | I think I blundered badly there. No other thread would've been able to run during the busy wait in the ATA driver unless it was over-aged. |
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| 03:55:33 | PaulJam | jhMikeS: with your patch i don't get any dropouts anymore. thank you. |
| 03:57:30 | jhMikeS | great. think I'll commit that one. |
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| 08:28:00 | rbnovice | hi, i want to use 'sin' function in a plugin, but i suspect my device (sansa c2xx) doesn't support float too well, and maybe 'sin' isn't supported. i can't find this in the docs, anyone know off-hand? |
| 08:28:27 | rbnovice | (do i just need to create my own sin-table in a header, and include that?) |
| 08:32:38 | Llorean | I think there's already some math functions for plugins, though I'm not sure where they're located specifically. |
| 08:33:38 | amiconn | Rockbox does not use floating point in the core, and even plugins should avoid it wherever possible |
| 08:33:43 | rbnovice | i found a reference to fsin in one of the dsp-related things (codec maybe), but it seems to give bad values. i could have miscast something though |
| 08:34:03 | amiconn | Use fixed point arithmetics wherever possible, as it is faster by factors. |
| 08:34:12 | rbnovice | okay, i will use a sintab then. i'm already used fixed-point for everything else |
| 08:34:17 | Llorean | amiconn: Don't we have a fixed point math library for plugins, or the beginnings of one? |
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| 08:34:18 | amiconn | E.g. cube.c contains a fixed point sine table |
| 08:34:34 | * | Llorean seems to remember a lot of talk about this half a year back or so |
| 08:34:48 | rbnovice | cool, i will look at cube.c |
| 08:36:14 | amiconn | AH, no, someone moved it oout of there |
| 08:36:16 | rbnovice | ah, sweet, there's an .../apps/plugins/lib/fixedpoint.h/c |
| 08:36:33 | rbnovice | erm, .[hc] |
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| 08:37:19 | rbnovice | and it has a sin_int function |
| 08:37:33 | amiconn | Yup |
| 08:37:41 | amiconn | That's the one moved out of cube.c |
| 08:37:43 | rbnovice | that should suffice for now |
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| 09:18:15 | ShamusNY | hello |
| 09:18:21 | ShamusNY | just converted my ipod mini |
| 09:18:47 | ShamusNY | i'm using database format (ephpod file structure) |
| 09:18:59 | ShamusNY | how the hell do I run in ALBUM mode? |
| 09:19:44 | ShamusNY | if i choose ALBUM -> ALL TRACKS it is completely out of order |
| 09:21:59 | rbnovice | well, i'm not an expert yet, but fwiw, make sure your ID3 info is bang-on |
| 09:22:52 | rbnovice | (if it's not, you'll get weird sorting) |
| 09:24:06 | pixelma | ShamusNY: if your tags are ok, the tracks should be in Album > "Name of Album". "<all tracks> lists all tracks in it... |
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| 09:39:23 | rbnovice | i'm working on a plugin; to build/test first time, from 'sim', working dir for sim, i do 'make' and then 'make install'; for subsequent build/test, i do 'make rocks' followed by 'cp apps/plugins/foo.rock archos/.rockbox/rocks/demos/'... is there any faster/easier method? (something more precise than 'make rocks') |
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| 09:41:27 | ShamusNY | my id3 is correct |
| 09:42:49 | ShamusNY | i am trying DB -> Album -> <all tracks> -> which displays the TRACKS for each album |
| 09:42:54 | ShamusNY | which is not what i want |
| 09:43:25 | ShamusNY | bcs the tracks are alphabetical now |
| 09:43:30 | rbnovice | do you mean you're trying to get it to play all tracks of a particular album? |
| 09:43:30 | ShamusNY | and not in album order |
| 09:43:39 | ShamusNY | no i want to play each album in order |
| 09:44:06 | pixelma | why do you go "all tracks" then? |
| 09:44:32 | ShamusNY | what should i do |
| 09:45:38 | ShamusNY | if i pick ONE album, it only plays that album |
| 09:46:47 | pixelma | then I don't understand whyt you want |
| 09:46:48 | advlaptop2019 | i think i know what ShamusNY wants |
| 09:47:20 | ShamusNY | the ipod does it perfect.. there is SHUFFLE=ALBUM mode |
| 09:47:45 | ShamusNY | i then go to album listing, pick the first album and FFWD to last track in album |
| 09:47:47 | advlaptop2019 | ShamusNY want to play the tracks in the album by track number |
| 09:48:05 | ShamusNY | it randomly picks a new album to go to and plays all of the songs inde that "album" together |
| 09:48:07 | advlaptop2019 | ShamusNY, am i right? |
| 09:48:14 | ShamusNY | yes |
| 09:48:18 | ShamusNY | for mix cds |
| 09:48:52 | ShamusNY | otherwise i get rock, audiobook, techno, techno, rock |
| 09:49:08 | rbnovice | oh yeah, i still have to try out the gapless playback for that... i can't believe most commercial players still don't do that |
| 09:49:58 | ShamusNY | the problem is it is alphabetizing the tracks |
| 09:50:02 | ShamusNY | i want no sorting |
| 09:50:05 | ShamusNY | album sorting |
| 09:53:18 | ShamusNY | it seems like there needs to be a context menu |
| 09:53:30 | ShamusNY | where i can just hit play on the "ALBUMS" view and it goes |
| 09:53:46 | ShamusNY | i don't want to select a specific album i wanna play by album |
| 09:54:00 | ShamusNY | it seems you can do this with "file tree" mode |
| 09:54:05 | ShamusNY | but not with id3 tags |
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| 09:56:29 | ShamusNY | thats the problem |
| 09:56:45 | ShamusNY | in ipod mode ALBUMS -> ALL - sorts the tracks by album |
| 09:56:48 | ShamusNY | not alphabetically |
| 09:56:54 | ShamusNY | there too much sorting |
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| 10:03:35 | pixelma | you could do this with a custom database entry (currently that would display the album name too in the track list though, might look a bit weird) some discussion here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15043.0 . This is all I know |
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| 10:04:51 | pixelma | that would at least take care of the track order, not play by album randomly |
| 10:10:08 | ShamusNY | gotcha |
| 10:10:10 | ShamusNY | i saw that |
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| 10:27:46 | ShamusNY | i cant figure it out |
| 10:33:00 | ShamusNY | Albums |
| 10:33:00 | ShamusNY | If you make make these selections: Artists > All > All, then press the Play button, iPod will choose an album at random and play it in its entirety. iPod will then shuffle to another album and play it in its entirety. Albums are not repeated until iPod has played through the entire list. |
| 10:33:00 | ShamusNY | If you choose a song from the Songs list, iPod will play that song, then the remainder of the album associated with that song. iPod will then shuffle to another song in the Songs list, play it, then play the remainder of the album associated with that song. For example, if iPod chooses track 8 on an album with 15 tracks, Album shuffle will play tracks 8 through 15 of that album, but not 1 through 7. |
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| 12:07:28 | linuxstb | Anyone know if the list widget has always done fullscreen (minus the statusbar) updates, even if they're not needed? I thought someone had changed that? |
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| 12:27:29 | * | amiconn would like to see current test_fps results from a 4th Gen grayscale and/or a Mini 1st Gen |
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| 12:48:57 | homielowe | Any devs with a good understanding of the simulator? |
| 12:49:14 | Bagder | just ask and you'll find out |
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| 12:51:12 | * | amiconn ponders the feasibility of a remote greyscale library, or rather, using the lib for the remote when there is no greyscale main lcd |
| 12:51:14 | homielowe | Upon executing rockboxui on my iPodtouch I get " Cannot create sim handler mtx , sim kernel init failed" I am able to do ./rockboxui −−help and it will spit out the help commands though |
| 12:51:16 | devurandom | Hi! |
| 12:51:29 | amiconn | That would be possible on H300 and X5, but not on H1x0 and M5 |
| 12:52:16 | devurandom | I am just trying to install RockBox to my iPod nano 1st gen, but rbutil says "searching ipods..., no ipods found" What might be the reason? |
| 12:52:30 | devurandom | (When installing the bootloader) |
| 12:52:51 | devurandom | On the console it says "[INFO] Scanning disk devices..." |
| 12:52:51 | amiconn | Are you running rbutil as Admin (windows) / root (linux) ? |
| 12:53:08 | Bagder | homielowe: is that the exact error message? |
| 12:53:18 | devurandom | Will try that. |
| 12:53:24 | homielowe | Bagder: Yes |
| 12:53:33 | amiconn | If not, it won't work. That's mentioned in the manual afaik |
| 12:53:52 | amiconn | That is, it might only be mentioned for the manual install method... |
| 12:54:23 | Bagder | homielowe: actually, it wasn't the exact message. The exact message uses underscores too |
| 12:54:41 | Bagder | homielowe: see uisimulator/sdl/kernel.c:96 |
| 12:54:42 | devurandom | amiconn: Yep, I think it doesnt say that for rbutil. |
| 12:54:57 | Bagder | SDL_CreateMutex() fails |
| 12:54:59 | devurandom | Maybe there should be a more detailed error message... ;) |
| 12:55:44 | devurandom | Thanks, now it works. |
| 12:56:01 | rasher | moos: You do know that all translators will be bothered now since you changed english.lang? |
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| 12:56:50 | rasher | moos: At least all translators with those strings already translated |
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| 12:57:37 | pixelma | rasher: is that important in the description line? |
| 12:57:59 | Bagder | it could be |
| 12:58:07 | rasher | pixelma: well the translators will be told "desc changed" |
| 12:58:40 | homielowe | Bagder: no underscores for me though :S http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8924/img0133du1.jpg |
| 12:58:57 | homielowe | nm , bad eyes :S |
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| 13:00:15 | devurandom | w000t, it works. :) |
| 13:00:40 | devurandom | Now it hangs. :( |
| 13:00:52 | amiconn | devurandom: For most tasks you don't need to run rbuitl as admin/root, but for installing the bootloader you do |
| 13:01:08 | devurandom | What is that database I needed to build? |
| 13:01:13 | amiconn | This is because normal users aren't allowed to access raw devices |
| 13:01:20 | devurandom | Yes, figured that now. |
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| 13:02:37 | devurandom | Plainly assumed it would just have to overwrite a file or something. |
| 13:03:45 | devurandom | Do I have to use my RockBox iPod as a plain disk, or can I continue to use my Apple iPod settings in Amarok? |
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| 13:04:02 | devurandom | I.e. does RockBox sync with the iTunesDB? |
| 13:09:45 | soap | no it does not |
| 13:10:38 | soap | BUT, Rockbox can build its own database by scanning the files on your player's hard drive - even if they have the obscured file structure of the original Apple Firmware. |
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| 13:25:07 | Horscht | I am pretty confident one could write a shell script, that would sync a folder on an ipod with a local folder, convert any cover or folder.jpg to cover.bmp, remove all jpegs |
| 13:25:13 | * | rasher stares in disbelief at the build errors on his server |
| 13:25:22 | Horscht | knowing the mighty shell |
| 13:25:25 | rasher | I *do* have arm-elf-gcc in rbclient's PATH |
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| 13:33:56 | Teldane90 | hiho @ll |
| 13:34:55 | rasher | Bagder: wouldn't it make sense to put acbuild.pl in tools/ such that it can be updated without needing to get hold of each client? |
| 13:38:48 | obo | rasher: different j values... |
| 13:39:11 | rasher | Hm, that could be loaded from an external file perhaps? |
| 13:39:34 | obo | or from the output of /proc/cpuinfo ;) |
| 13:40:17 | Teldane90 | if got a problem with album art, maybe anybody can help me |
| 13:41:56 | rasher | Teldane90: are you going to tell us, or will we have to guess? |
| 13:42:09 | Teldane90 | u have to guess :D |
| 13:42:40 | Teldane90 | the covers arent in the playlist, but on pictureflow i can see them (sry 4 my bad english :P) |
| 13:43:01 | Teldane90 | my theme is zenpod |
| 13:44:28 | Teldane90 | i read in the wiki, that i have to put in something like «Arathis» %C |
| 13:45:13 | Teldane90 | sry, i mean like thi s: "%C" |
| 13:46:09 | Teldane90 | ahh and my player is iAudio x5L |
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| 13:52:34 | Teldane90 | rasher, maybe u can help me ?¿? |
| 13:54:08 | pixelma | covers in the playlist? |
| 13:55:51 | Teldane90 | i dont know the real meaning in english ... hmm ... when u are playing a song, in this window ... there should be a cover (like «Arathis» http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIaudioX5/ZenPod_V2_screen1.png ) |
| 13:58:16 | Teldane90 | u are knowing what i mean, pixelma ?¿? |
| 13:58:33 | Horscht | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=AlbumArt |
| 13:58:57 | Teldane90 | yes i know, but it doesnt work |
| 13:59:10 | Horscht | have you named the cover cover.bmp? |
| 13:59:38 | Teldane90 | yes and the size is 100x100 |
| 13:59:47 | Teldane90 | in pictureflow it works |
| 13:59:55 | Teldane90 | but not in the "playlist" |
| 13:59:59 | Horscht | what is pictureflow? |
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| 14:00:37 | TiMiD[FD] | a plugin |
| 14:00:45 | Teldane90 | yes a plugin |
| 14:01:14 | Horscht | picture viewer? |
| 14:01:22 | TiMiD[FD] | no idea |
| 14:01:23 | Teldane90 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPictureFlow |
| 14:02:13 | TiMiD[FD] | looks nice |
| 14:02:21 | TiMiD[FD] | too bad I have a greyscale display |
| 14:02:39 | Teldane90 | hehe |
| 14:02:47 | Horscht | nice, gonna try that later, after my battery bench |
| 14:02:56 | Horscht | anyways, what Ipod are you using? |
| 14:03:56 | Arathis | Teldane90: why is my name in your posts? oO. or is it a local thing with nick-replacement? ... |
| 14:04:11 | pixelma | Horscht: no Ipod - an X5L, already mentioned here ;) |
| 14:04:29 | Horscht | ah there |
| 14:04:30 | Teldane90 | i dont know maybe acros ... everytime i write "this" there is coming this |
| 14:04:37 | Teldane90 | ah sry there |
| 14:04:46 | Teldane90 | hmm i dont know whitch word :Þ |
| 14:05:16 | Teldane90 | ahhh "this:" => «Arathis» |
| 14:05:29 | Teldane90 | sry 4 highlighting |
| 14:06:06 | pixelma | Teldane90: could you try with the included "cabbiev2" WPS (while playing screen) because I believe it could be a broken theme... |
| 14:06:23 | Horscht | Teldane90, you say you are using this theme: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#zenpodV2 |
| 14:07:14 | Teldane90 | what is cabbiev2 ?¿? |
| 14:07:15 | Horscht | zenpod doesn't support covers, and zenpodv2 - 5 need a patched build |
| 14:07:21 | Horscht | cabbiev2 is a theme |
| 14:07:28 | Teldane90 | wait, i look |
| 14:07:41 | Horscht | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#Cabbie_2_0 |
| 14:08:02 | Teldane90 | @ @ll themes it doesnt work ... thats the serious ... |
| 14:08:05 | rasher | Horscht: It's included in the main rockbox build. No need to download it. |
| 14:08:43 | Teldane90 | kay, cabbie i have, wait, i look |
| 14:09:11 | Horscht | it is? I always downloaded it :D |
| 14:09:42 | Teldane90 | ahh there it works ... |
| 14:09:52 | Horscht | broken theme then |
| 14:10:08 | Teldane90 | hmm where is the problem whith zenpdv2 |
| 14:10:23 | Teldane90 | hmm, maybe the changed font ?¿? |
| 14:10:30 | Horscht | no |
| 14:10:36 | Horscht | it requires a patched build |
| 14:10:51 | Horscht | it was created before stock SVN of rockbox included cover art |
| 14:11:09 | Teldane90 | kay, and how can i patched it ?¿? |
| 14:11:51 | pixelma | I wouldn't use such a patched build but fix the WPS instead |
| 14:12:04 | Teldane90 | i paste into the .wps somehting like this %Cl|50|70|c100|b100| |
| 14:12:44 | Teldane90 | sry i doesnt understand ... how can i fix it ?¿? |
| 14:12:54 | Horscht | wps editing was something i never grasped |
| 14:13:13 | Horscht | i mean, i put it in, but how can i define where on the screen it is displayed? |
| 14:13:13 | BigBambi | Teldane90: www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWps and www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt |
| 14:13:35 | BigBambi | Horscht: For text by line and for pictures with x/y co-ordinates |
| 14:13:46 | BigBambi | And soon for everything by viewports |
| 14:13:48 | Teldane90 | BigBambi yes im knowing the wiki ... |
| 14:13:56 | BigBambi | Teldane90: That tells you how to do it |
| 14:14:05 | Horscht | viewports? |
| 14:14:17 | BigBambi | Horscht: Check the wiki and flyspray |
| 14:14:19 | Teldane90 | yes, i know, i did it, but something wrong ... |
| 14:14:26 | Teldane90 | so i asked here ... |
| 14:14:30 | BigBambi | They allow you too split the screen into smaller areas basically |
| 14:15:19 | BigBambi | Teldane90: You need to explain better what you have done and what the problem is. I don't quite understand at the moment. I appreciate this is hard in English. |
| 14:16:04 | Teldane90 | yes very hard :Þ |
| 14:16:46 | Horscht | after you edited the wps, you need to "reload" the wps |
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| 14:16:57 | BigBambi | From what I gather you are trying to adapt a theme that is written for an old patched build for current svn |
| 14:17:03 | Teldane90 | hmm this is the wps |
| 14:17:03 | Teldane90 | wps: /.rockbox/wps/zenpod_V2.wps |
| 14:17:04 | Teldane90 | font: /.rockbox/fonts/helvR10.fnt |
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| 14:17:04 | Teldane90 | statusbar: off |
| 14:17:04 | Teldane90 | rwps: /.rockbox/wps/iAmp.rwps |
| 14:17:04 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 14:17:04 | Teldane90 | backdrop: /.rockbox/backdrops/zenpod_backdrop.bmp |
| 14:17:06 | Teldane90 | foreground color: FFFFFF |
| 14:17:08 | Teldane90 | background color: 000000 |
| 14:17:13 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Please stop |
| 14:17:29 | Teldane90 | so and there i have to put in the code %Cl|50|70|c100|b100| |
| 14:17:30 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Do not post loads of stuff to the channel |
| 14:17:38 | Teldane90 | its not long :Þ |
| 14:17:41 | BigBambi | Use something like www.pastebin.ca |
| 14:17:41 | Teldane90 | that was @ll |
| 14:17:47 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Do not do it |
| 14:18:00 | pixelma | Teldane90: this is not the wps, this is the theme file (.cfg) |
| 14:18:20 | pixelma | you have to edit the .wps file |
| 14:18:24 | Teldane90 | ahh nice page :) thanks |
| 14:18:24 | Teldane90 | http://www.pastebin.ca/888844 |
| 14:18:44 | BigBambi | Please copy the .wps file to www.pastebin.ca and give us the link |
| 14:19:26 | BigBambi | Teldane90: As pixelma says, that is the theme config file - it says to load a WPS (here zenpod_V2.wps) - it is that .wps file you need to edit |
| 14:19:36 | Teldane90 | http://www.pastebin.ca/888845 |
| 14:20:18 | BigBambi | line 15 is wrong for a start |
| 14:20:39 | Teldane90 | yes ?¿? |
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| 14:20:57 | BigBambi | that should have your %Cl etc. part to define the album art, and then use %C to show it |
| 14:21:17 | Teldane90 | oO |
| 14:21:28 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Look through each line of that .wps file and compare it to www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWps and www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt |
| 14:21:38 | BigBambi | If it is wrong, correct it from those |
| 14:21:59 | Teldane90 | slowly for me pls :Þ |
| 14:22:21 | BigBambi | haha - from that .wps - "Requires at least ROCKbox H300 Experimental 1.02 Stable" |
| 14:22:23 | Teldane90 | line 15 is wrong, there i have to paste in %C |
| 14:22:29 | BigBambi | Experimental stable :) |
| 14:22:42 | BigBambi | Teldane90: No |
| 14:23:20 | pixelma | gotta go, good luck :) |
| 14:23:28 | BigBambi | If you look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt it tells you to define the album art with %Cl|x|y|[l|c|r]maxwidth|[t|c|b]maxheight| |
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| 14:23:55 | BigBambi | So you should use that syntax on line 15 instead |
| 14:24:25 | BigBambi | Then later in the file somewhere, you use %C which tells it to use the album art you defined with %Cl|x|y|[l|c|r]maxwidth|[t|c|b]maxheight| |
| 14:24:49 | Teldane90 | stop :Þ |
| 14:25:12 | BigBambi | Teldane90: I have to go now (to buy beer before the rugby starts!), but I'll be back in a bit if you are still stuck |
| 14:25:43 | Teldane90 | i open the .wps in editor and change line 15 to %Cl|50|70|c100|b100| |
| 14:26:00 | Teldane90 | kay, till there, thank u very much |
| 14:26:20 | Teldane90 | (im waiting here, kay ?) |
| 14:26:23 | rasher | Bagder: any obvious places to look to figure out why my buildserver failed? |
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| 14:30:07 | BigBambi | Teldane90: sure |
| 14:30:20 | Teldane90 | kay |
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| 14:41:57 | amiconn | rasher: Did you try to log in as rbclient and check the path? |
| 14:44:05 | rasher | amiconn: yeah, that works just fine :| |
| 14:44:58 | rasher | Actually.. |
| 14:45:45 | rasher | rasher@devi:~$ ssh -l rbclient gaia.local arm-elf-gcc |
| 14:45:45 | rasher | bash: arm-elf-gcc: command not found |
| 14:46:24 | rasher | Ah, rubbish |
| 14:46:29 | rasher | [ -z "$PS1" ] && return |
| 14:46:42 | rasher | Better have my PATH set above that... |
| 14:47:24 | rasher | And yet, still nothing |
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| 14:48:04 | rasher | Okay, now it's getting bizarre |
| 14:49:02 | rasher | $ ssh -l rbclient gaia.local echo \$PATH |
| 14:49:02 | rasher | /home/rbclient/buildtools/sh-elf/bin:/home/rbclient/buildtools/m68k-elf/bin:/home/rbclient/buildtools/arm-elf/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
| 14:49:06 | rasher | And yet still nothing. |
| 14:49:24 | rasher | oh gosh |
| 14:49:48 | rasher | acbuild.pl deleted that while I was experimenting |
| 14:50:24 | amiconn | You have the toolchain in rbclient's home? |
| 14:50:31 | amiconn | Strange place, imo |
| 14:51:33 | rasher | Why? It's the only place rbclient has write permissions |
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| 15:45:56 | BigBambi | Teldane90: I have replaced the album art parts, but I don't know if the margin there is done properly. Give it a go. Incidently, this theme uses 75x75 album art, so you also need cover.75x75.bmp, or cover.bmp that is 75x75. http://www.pastebin.ca/888902 |
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| 15:48:53 | Teldane90 | ahhh and when i want to use the album arts in 100x100 ?¿? what i have to change |
| 15:48:54 | Teldane90 | ?¿? |
| 15:48:59 | Teldane90 | thanks |
| 15:49:21 | Teldane90 | BigBambi, |
| 15:49:38 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Well, you would need to rearrange the whole theme |
| 15:49:56 | BigBambi | If the picture is bigger it will cover other parts unless you move them |
| 15:50:11 | Teldane90 | ah kay |
| 15:50:29 | BigBambi | But just to display it change %Cl|2|19|c75|c75| to %Cl|2|19|c100|c100| |
| 15:50:51 | Teldane90 | and this code i have to paste into the zenpod_V2.wps ?¿? |
| 15:51:09 | BigBambi | Yes, replace what is there |
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| 15:51:18 | Teldane90 | kay, i look, thanks |
| 15:51:36 | BigBambi | I think the syntax of the %m is wrong too, but I'm not sure |
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| 15:55:03 | Teldane90 | hmm ... ne grafics ... |
| 15:55:05 | Teldane90 | *no |
| 15:55:59 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Does the rest of it work, or do you get the default WPS? |
| 15:56:11 | Teldane90 | oO ?¿? |
| 15:56:20 | BigBambi | What does that mean? |
| 15:56:35 | Teldane90 | i take the zenpodv2 vps and paste the code form u into |
| 15:57:00 | Teldane90 | oO = smiley = i doesnt understand :D |
| 15:57:37 | BigBambi | Delete everything in zenpodv2.wps and replace it with that from the link I pasted. And please use full words etc.m like you = u. Many people without English as a first language find it hard to understand if you don't use real words. You should understand that! |
| 15:58:48 | Teldane90 | you arent an english people too ?¿? |
| 15:59:00 | BigBambi | Yes, I'm British, but many people here aren't |
| 15:59:39 | Teldane90 | kay, im too, im from germany :) |
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| 16:00:31 | PaulJam | the %m tag is only allowed to have one parameter (leftmargin), so the wps will not load. |
| 16:00:40 | BigBambi | PaulJam: That is what I thought |
| 16:00:58 | Horscht | if you are from germany, why are you using the weird ¿ sign? |
| 16:00:59 | Teldane90 | that mean for me ?¿? |
| 16:01:04 | BigBambi | But I wasn't sure, and I've been trying to find out whether it was loading or not :) |
| 16:01:19 | Teldane90 | weird ?¿? whats that |
| 16:01:22 | BigBambi | Horscht: Yeah, I had assumed Spanish or something |
| 16:01:36 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Odd. Only ? exists in English |
| 16:01:48 | Horscht | in german, too |
| 16:03:19 | BigBambi | Teldane90: http://www.pastebin.ca/888924 |
| 16:04:00 | Teldane90 | what is odd ?¿? |
| 16:04:25 | Horscht | the ¿ sign |
| 16:04:32 | BigBambi | ?¿? is odd. In English (and German I hear), we use ? for a question, not ?¿? |
| 16:04:34 | Horscht | merkwürdig |
| 16:04:49 | BigBambi | Anyway, this is getting off topic |
| 16:05:01 | BigBambi | Does http://www.pastebin.ca/888924 work? |
| 16:05:12 | Teldane90 | u mean why i am writing an questionmark like this ?¿? ?¿? |
| 16:05:28 | BigBambi | yes. But it is off topic, and please use you not u |
| 16:05:28 | Teldane90 | thats my acros ... |
| 16:05:30 | Horscht | nevermind |
| 16:05:41 | Teldane90 | ah shit, sry BigBambi :Þ |
| 16:06:07 | BigBambi | And please do not swear! |
| 16:07:17 | Teldane90 | what is swear ?¿? |
| 16:07:38 | BigBambi | Use coarse language. |
| 16:08:27 | Teldane90 | ahhh ... sorry, ill be better in future :) |
| 16:08:48 | BigBambi | no worries :) |
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| 16:10:38 | Teldane90 | BigBambi im loving you :-* it works :-* |
| 16:10:45 | BigBambi | Cool :) |
| 16:10:53 | Teldane90 | yes very cool :-* |
| 16:11:17 | simonrvn | topic: Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines |
| 16:11:43 | BigBambi | simonrvn: if only! |
| 16:11:49 | simonrvn | heh |
| 16:11:51 | Teldane90 | correctly-spelled English |
| 16:11:55 | simonrvn | i did :) |
| 16:12:06 | BigBambi | simonrvn: The count rises to 1! |
| 16:12:10 | Teldane90 | hmmm i cant speak corectly english :Þ |
| 16:12:19 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 16:12:40 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Your English isn't bad, but it is more using proper words like "you", "two", "thanks" etc. |
| 16:12:56 | Teldane90 | kay, thanks |
| 16:13:19 | Teldane90 | at school im having a 3 ... so it isnt the best english :Þ |
| 16:13:19 | BigBambi | It gets very confusing for a) blind people who rely on screen readers b) Non-native speakers who use translation software et. |
| 16:13:28 | BigBambi | s/et./etc. |
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| 16:14:31 | Teldane90 | ahh i understand, if anybody have the same problem and he is reading too, but he cant speak english, and he translate it, he cant translate it ... (lots of gramma misstakes :P) |
| 16:18:36 | Buschel | horscht: which version are you battery benching right now? |
| 16:19:12 | Horscht | soaps "latest" |
| 16:19:20 | Horscht | the one, which is an older rev |
| 16:19:31 | Horscht | and I got 15:46h on it |
| 16:20:04 | Buschel | so, the bench is complete or is it still running? |
| 16:20:11 | Horscht | only thing that confuses me is, that the battery_bench.txt stops at 15:46 with a battery level of 9% |
| 16:20:16 | Horscht | it's complete |
| 16:20:22 | Horscht | but I'll run it a second time |
| 16:20:27 | Horscht | after a full recharge |
| 16:21:20 | Buschel | well, the benchs might be "incomplete", if the last disc acess wasn't possible due to lack of battery voltage. there might be up to 40 mins missing |
| 16:21:34 | Horscht | just to verify, you know. because the text file ends at 9% still left |
| 16:21:57 | Horscht | which sounds too much, in my book |
| 16:22:13 | Horscht | I can still upload the battery_bench if you want |
| 16:22:14 | Buschel | nevertheless using the "old" svn seems to be much better :-) |
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| 16:22:23 | Horscht | yes, that is definatelly the case |
| 16:22:30 | Buschel | horscht: yes just give me a link |
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| 16:22:34 | * | bluebrother found a way to make the rbutil build more silent |
| 16:22:36 | Horscht | k, just a sec |
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| 16:22:59 | countrymonkey | Just checking out what's going on here. |
| 16:23:52 | Horscht | Buschel, here you go: http://www.pastebin.ca/888942 |
| 16:24:01 | Horscht | and thank you for your patches |
| 16:24:12 | Buschel | ok, lets see |
| 16:25:24 | Horscht | a question about the batterybench plugin though. does it also stop benching when I enter the plugins menu (without running a plugin of course)? |
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| 16:25:45 | countrymonkey | no |
| 16:25:52 | Horscht | ok. |
| 16:27:54 | Horscht | I was just asking because ca. 30 minutes before the battery died, I entered the plugins menu with the purpose of launching the coverflow plugin. I then remembered that battery benching would stop if i'd launch it, so I refrained from starting it |
| 16:28:17 | countrymonkey | cool. |
| 16:29:02 | countrymonkey | You have good english, considering english isn't your 1st language. |
| 16:29:06 | Horscht | Buschel, calculation back, there's at least half an hour missing in that log |
| 16:30:06 | Horscht | thank you, countrymonkey |
| 16:30:34 | Buschel | horscht: ok, >16h effective runtime −− pretty good :) btw, afaik you use Cabbie2.0 WPS and Mp3, correct? At which bitrate and at what volume? |
| 16:30:50 | countrymonkey | I know because I am learning something else. Awfully difficult. :p |
| 16:30:53 | Horscht | bitrate VBR V" |
| 16:31:07 | Horscht | V2, volume not too loud (listenable |
| 16:31:30 | Buschel | horscht: do you know the volume in dB? |
| 16:31:31 | Horscht | since I was using cabbie v2, it doesn't display any dB level |
| 16:31:38 | Buschel | ahh, ok. |
| 16:32:01 | Horscht | but setting should still be intact, as I didn't change it |
| 16:32:15 | Horscht | correct? |
| 16:32:20 | Buschel | btw, if you would run a test without WPS (e.g. just entering the settings menu) the runtime will even be longer |
| 16:32:41 | Horscht | yeah, but i like my screen to look nice :p |
| 16:34:10 | countrymonkey | You say I can go into the settings menu and get better battery life? I'm blind so don't care about wpses. |
| 16:34:15 | Buschel | your choice ;) |
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| 16:34:47 | Horscht | yeah, 16h is still an awesome improvement |
| 16:34:58 | Horscht | by the way, it's all with album art displayed |
| 16:35:04 | countrymonkey | How much more life? |
| 16:35:23 | Horscht | i didn't run it against the same stock revision, yet |
| 16:35:23 | Buschel | countrymonkay: if you've got an iPod Video it will save up to several hours (when comparing no WPS to default WPS) |
| 16:35:49 | countrymonkey | Well I have an ipod4g so it should be better |
| 16:35:52 | Horscht | but using a higher revision with the same patch i got an improvement of 2 hours using Buschel's patch |
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| 16:37:03 | Buschel | countrymonkey: what kind of format do you use? |
| 16:37:09 | Horscht | and with an older svn patched with Buschels build, Rockbox only falls 1.5 hours behind stock ipod firmware |
| 16:38:06 | countrymonkey | mp3s at 24kbps bitrate. (that is what my internet radio station puts on and I'm too cheap to buy music) |
| 16:38:16 | countrymonkey | I mean my favorite station |
| 16:38:59 | Horscht | wow... that sounds like it would really sound horrible |
| 16:39:53 | | Part herefornow |
| 16:40:01 | countrymonkey | Yes, but I don't want to buy music. I am surfing around for a new internet radio station that plays better quality music. |
| 16:40:10 | Buschel | countrymonkey: mp3 will give around 7h runtime on a 4G iPod. maybe you should convert to a more (battery) effective codec like mpc. |
| 16:40:40 | countrymonkey | If I do mp3 to mpc will my already horrible quality music get horribler? |
| 16:40:48 | Horscht | mpc? never heard of that |
| 16:41:06 | Buschel | countrymonkey: I never did tests at that bitrate... to painful |
| 16:41:09 | Horscht | musepack? |
| 16:41:12 | Buschel | yes |
| 16:41:29 | countrymonkey | I only get 4h20m battery life. |
| 16:41:56 | Buschel | yes, thats around the unpatched svn :) |
| 16:42:22 | countrymonkey | Then what is 7h with? |
| 16:43:39 | Buschel | with patch #8379 (pcf03.patch) and using mp3 |
| 16:43:42 | BigBambi | Transcoding any lossy format to another will sound worse. If you start with 24 kbps mp3, I don't even want to think about it |
| 16:44:36 | Horscht | i think i'll stick with VBR Mp3 |
| 16:45:46 | Horscht | since what revision is cabbiev2 in the SVN, though? |
| 16:46:26 | PaulJam | 16126 |
| 16:46:33 | Horscht | ah, thank you |
| 16:46:57 | BigBambi | Horscht: http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html as well as the other links under the svn table on the front page are useful |
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| 17:09:43 | Teldane90 | BigBambi ?¿? |
| 17:10:00 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Yes? |
| 17:10:14 | Teldane90 | are you knowing where the font is standing ?¿? |
| 17:10:34 | Teldane90 | the font of the theme |
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| 17:10:46 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Do you mean where the font is stored? |
| 17:11:30 | Teldane90 | hmm, i would like to have the font of zenpod2 in my version zenpod v2 |
| 17:11:49 | BigBambi | It is specified in the theme .cfg file in /.rockbox/themes, and is stored in /.rockbox/fonts |
| 17:11:54 | Teldane90 | but i dont know the font, so im searching in the code ... but i doesnt found |
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| 17:13:00 | BigBambi | So you need to put the relevant font in /.rockbox/fonts (or make sure it is already there), and in the cfg file in /.rockbox/themes make sure the line that starts font: points the correct font |
| 17:13:29 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Which font is specified in the cfg for zenpod2? |
| 17:13:47 | Teldane90 | yers thats the problem id doesnt know ... |
| 17:13:55 | Teldane90 | * I |
| 17:14:30 | rasher | Teldane90: Look in /.rockbox/themes/zenpod2.cfg |
| 17:14:49 | BigBambi | Teldane90: The original zip you downloaded will say in the cfg file |
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| 17:14:57 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Like rasher says :) |
| 17:15:02 | Teldane90 | if i know, than i can change the font at rockbox fonts |
| 17:15:23 | countrymonkey | Es wird in das Thema. Cfg-Datei in / .rockbox / Themes und wird in / .rockbox / fonts |
| 17:15:44 | Teldane90 | da ein deutscher :) hoho countrymonkey |
| 17:15:46 | LinusN | countrymonkey: english please |
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| 17:15:57 | BigBambi | Teldane90: It uses helvR10.fnt |
| 17:16:08 | countrymonkey | Don't speak german. used a translator |
| 17:16:11 | Teldane90 | here a german hiho countrymonkey |
| 17:16:21 | Teldane90 | ah LautesOfflinesLachen |
| 17:16:36 | BigBambi | Teldane90: English please :) |
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| 17:16:48 | Teldane90 | sorry, that was my acros ... |
| 17:16:55 | BigBambi | acros? |
| 17:17:38 | countrymonkey | Yes, what's that? |
| 17:17:50 | Teldane90 | if i write a word, irc change the wort into an other :) |
| 17:18:02 | Teldane90 | *word |
| 17:18:09 | countrymonkey | you mean substitution? |
| 17:18:15 | petur2 | macros |
| 17:18:23 | BigBambi | aha |
| 17:18:26 | * | BigBambi sees the light |
| 17:18:30 | countrymonkey | oh |
| 17:18:30 | BigBambi | Macros :) |
| 17:18:30 | Teldane90 | yes something like this ... we say acros :) |
| 17:18:42 | countrymonkey | Thanks, petur2 |
| 17:18:42 | BigBambi | acros isn't a word in english |
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| 17:18:57 | Teldane90 | yes but we say it :Þ its a name :Þ |
| 17:18:57 | BigBambi | Or script, as rasher suggests |
| 17:19:06 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Not in English it isn't |
| 17:19:11 | Teldane90 | yes im using [g]-script |
| 17:19:50 | countrymonkey | What is [g]-script? |
| 17:20:00 | Teldane90 | so if i write "thx" it will be thanks or if i write "lol" it will be LautesOfflinesLachen |
| 17:20:44 | BigBambi | aha - not very helpful for an English channel - lol is understood, LautesOfflinesLachen is not |
| 17:20:51 | BigBambi | Anyway, off topic again |
| 17:21:00 | Teldane90 | i dont know if im allowed to sent u the link ... |
| 17:21:05 | BigBambi | Teldane90: The font you want is helvR10.fnt |
| 17:21:09 | BigBambi | Teldane90: you.... |
| 17:21:14 | BigBambi | And what link? |
| 17:21:18 | Teldane90 | www.grooves-welt.de |
| 17:21:21 | Teldane90 | this link :Þ |
| 17:21:28 | Teldane90 | to the gscript |
| 17:21:51 | Teldane90 | but it is german, but u can translate the page with google or something like this into english :) |
| 17:21:59 | countrymonkey | Teldane90: I can simpathise with you. I am learning another 2 languages. |
| 17:22:01 | BigBambi | Teldane90: OK, but lets stay on-topic |
| 17:22:05 | BigBambi | countrymonkey: You too |
| 17:22:34 | Teldane90 | which languages are u speaking ?¿? |
| 17:22:53 | Teldane90 | im german, english, latin, litle bit italian ... |
| 17:22:54 | BigBambi | Teldane90: Stay on-topic please |
| 17:23:07 | Teldane90 | okay sry :Þ |
| 17:23:14 | BigBambi | This is a logged development and support channel |
| 17:23:40 | Teldane90 | kay i look for the font ... |
| 17:23:51 | Teldane90 | logged ... hmm sounds not good :Þ |
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| 17:25:27 | countrymonkey | ã„ã„㈠|
| 17:25:44 | BigBambi | countrymonkey: Stop it |
| 17:25:49 | BigBambi | You should know better |
| 17:26:41 | Teldane90 | bambi no thats not the font im searching |
| 17:27:21 | BigBambi | Teldane90: It is the one specified for zenpod2 |
| 17:27:27 | Teldane90 | ahhh im having the right |
| 17:27:30 | Teldane90 | helvR12.fnt |
| 17:27:53 | Teldane90 | but its too big ... so the "playlist" wouldnt displayed correctly |
| 17:28:31 | Teldane90 | maybe i can use 2 fonts ?¿? |
| 17:28:52 | Teldane90 | one for the menu and one for the "playlist" |
| 17:29:22 | PaulJam | this is not possible with the oficial build |
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| 17:30:43 | Teldane90 | hmm kay, than i have to use the smaller one |
| 17:31:50 | Teldane90 | kay, a last question ... it belongs to picture flow |
| 17:32:40 | Teldane90 | with my iaudio i have to stop @ll before i can start it |
| 17:33:18 | Teldane90 | maybe anybody can code there an killing process like in doom |
| 17:33:21 | PaulJam | this is normal, the plugin uses the audio buffer. |
| 17:33:54 | Teldane90 | so you havenot stop it manually ... |
| 17:34:07 | BigBambi | Teldane90: There is a limited amount of memory in the players - it can't be used by audio and pictureflow |
| 17:34:22 | BigBambi | Teldane90: I see what you mean, but it might be annoying if it were automatic |
| 17:34:27 | BigBambi | It could ask though |
| 17:34:37 | Teldane90 | yes thats sure, but a killingprocess like in doom will be lots of comfortable |
| 17:35:01 | Teldane90 | i dont have contact to rockbox coders maybe you |
| 17:35:28 | Teldane90 | i've got to one coder, but he is an hobby coder :Þ |
| 17:36:50 | Teldane90 | so i think he didnt know how to do it ... |
| 17:37:26 | PaulJam | you could contact them via IRC :) . but for feature requests the usual procedure is to open a task on the flyspray tracker: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ |
| 17:40:17 | Teldane90 | hmm |
| 17:42:00 | Teldane90 | difficult page ... |
| 17:42:16 | Teldane90 | or stupid Teldane90 :Þ |
| 17:44:21 | countrymonkey | the former |
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| 17:57:11 | Teldane90 | if i want no back color of an icon it shuld be pink or ?¿? |
| 17:57:36 | rasher | Teldane90: Could you please just use a single question-mark? |
| 17:58:09 | Teldane90 | its my acros, im sory, but than i have to reinstall my irc ... sry |
| 17:58:30 | Teldane90 | *sorry |
| 17:59:04 | Teldane90 | is it pink ?¿? |
| 17:59:05 | BigBambi | Transparency is a specific shade of pink, yes |
| 17:59:12 | Teldane90 | kay, thanks |
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| 18:00:09 | ShamusNY | hi, does anyone know how to get album shuffle enabled? |
| 18:00:58 | ShamusNY | can I paste 2 paragraphs form apple |
| 18:01:01 | BigBambi | Teldane90: [R=255,G=0,B=255] |
| 18:01:03 | BigBambi | ShamusNY: No |
| 18:01:08 | BigBambi | ShamusNY: Use pastebin |
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| 18:01:12 | ShamusNY | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61574 |
| 18:01:14 | Teldane90 | yes i knowing the color |
| 18:01:16 | Teldane90 | thanks |
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| 18:01:26 | BigBambi | ShamusNY: From the database or filetree? |
| 18:01:45 | ShamusNY | http://pastebin.com/m2fc1704e |
| 18:01:49 | ShamusNY | database |
| 18:03:00 | BigBambi | ShamusNY: What has that post go to do with anything? Rockbox couldn't care less what the iPod does |
| 18:03:12 | BigBambi | It runs on many more players, most of them before the iPod |
| 18:03:21 | ShamusNY | gotcha |
| 18:03:33 | ShamusNY | but i want to get the same effect, it's explained perfectly there |
| 18:03:44 | BigBambi | As for how to do it in rockbox, I was under the impression that the database will play a random album |
| 18:03:44 | ShamusNY | i listen to a ton of mixes |
| 18:03:52 | BigBambi | But I don't use the database myself |
| 18:03:55 | * | BigBambi goes to check |
| 18:04:13 | ShamusNY | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15043.0 |
| 18:04:17 | ShamusNY | i found this |
| 18:04:29 | ShamusNY | which explains how to make a DB view |
| 18:06:25 | * | BigBambi can't help with the database |
| 18:06:34 | PaulJam | the database doesn't automatically jump to a random album once the current one has finished. rockbox has a fuctionality to play folders in random order, but that won't help you if you use the apple filestructure. |
| 18:06:50 | ShamusNY | yeah im stuck with dual boot |
| 18:06:57 | ShamusNY | until i get this right |
| 18:07:07 | ShamusNY | i freaking LOVE the EQ |
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| 18:59:38 | joshn_ | Is it possible to run a build server on ubuntu? |
| 18:59:45 | BigBambi | yes |
| 18:59:56 | joshn_ | is there anything special that needs to be done? |
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| 19:00:14 | BigBambi | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS?topic=BuildServer |
| 19:00:31 | BigBambi | Or just www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildServer |
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| 19:00:57 | joshn_ | right, but anything specific to ubuntu? Do I need to link /bin/sh to bash instead of dash? |
| 19:01:02 | BigBambi | ah, that |
| 19:01:08 | BigBambi | I forgot about that |
| 19:01:17 | BigBambi | possibly. |
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| 19:32:00 | JohnEK | I've got a bdf font which I want to convert into a fnt font. The bdf font looks fine when I look at it in fontforge, but when I convert it to fnt using convbdf, the font ends up having an extra line of pixels at the bottom of each character. Is there anybody who is knowledgable about fonts that could help me out? Thanks. |
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| 19:47:14 | ComradeHaz | Evening gentlemen |
| 19:47:28 | countrymonkey | What's up? |
| 19:47:43 | ComradeHaz | I fear I am about to ask something that will result in me being flamed, so |
| 19:47:52 | * | ComradeHaz puts on flame retardant jacket |
| 19:47:57 | krazykit | we don't flame here, so don't worry. |
| 19:48:02 | countrymonkey | do it. If nobody else answers, I will. |
| 19:48:21 | austrian | Hi! I tried compiling a plugin for my x5; it worked perfectly well in the simulator. But when I compile it for the X5 and start it there, it just hangs! |
| 19:48:26 | ComradeHaz | Trying to get this going on my iRiver H140 |
| 19:48:57 | countrymonkey | Did you compile the plugin for the target or did you use the same version you used for the sim on target? |
| 19:48:59 | austrian | I already removed everything (!) except a rb->splash(HZ, "hi"); but it still hangs when it's started |
| 19:49:08 | ComradeHaz | afaict I've got all the files onto the HDD using the utility and it's created teh firmware patch file for me |
| 19:49:12 | austrian | Of course I compiled it for the target |
| 19:49:37 | countrymonkey | I was silly enough not to do that the first time I built a plugin. |
| 19:49:42 | ComradeHaz | trouble I seem to be having is the divice 'ignoring' my request to upgrade the firmware |
| 19:49:49 | countrymonkey | thought it was all interchangable. |
| 19:49:49 | ComradeHaz | *device |
| 19:50:16 | countrymonkey | What device iriver h140 or x5. |
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| 19:50:39 | ComradeHaz | is it because it fails to see the difference between the patched version and what is alreadt installed? |
| 19:50:46 | austrian | Do you mean me? It's a cowon X5 |
| 19:50:51 | ComradeHaz | or me |
| 19:50:55 | ComradeHaz | it's an H140 :D |
| 19:51:00 | ComradeHaz | lol |
| 19:51:45 | countrymonkey | I cannot remember. I am talking to the guy who is having plugin hanging problems. |
| 19:51:57 | countrymonkey | I'm more familiar with that |
| 19:52:13 | austrian | That should be me ;) |
| 19:52:29 | krazykit | ComradeHaz, have you tried performing a manual install instead of using the rockbox utility? |
| 19:52:42 | countrymonkey | Let me think. |
| 19:52:52 | ComradeHaz | as in without the utility at all? |
| 19:53:14 | countrymonkey | What stage does it hang at? Does it display "hi" then hang? |
| 19:53:15 | ComradeHaz | I have tried a manual creation of the hex file |
| 19:53:36 | krazykit | with fwpatcher?? |
| 19:53:51 | ComradeHaz | yer]= |
| 19:54:00 | countrymonkey | ComradeHaz: I know nada about irivers and fwpatcher. You should wait for somebody else. |
| 19:54:04 | austrian | There's nothing left in the plugin except the declaration of a few variables, " rb = api;" and the splash message. But the message isn't shown; however I can hear the disk spin. |
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| 19:54:55 | PaulJam | ComradeHaz: what is the exact filename of the .hex file? |
| 19:54:57 | linuxstb_ | ComradeHaz: Why are you creating a hex file? That's the bootloader, which you shouldn't compile yourself unless you know exactly what you're doing (and can recover a bad flash). |
| 19:54:57 | austrian | The backlight does not turn off and I have to hold the power switch for > 10 secs until it apruptly turns off. |
| 19:55:11 | ComradeHaz | ihp_100.hex |
| 19:55:44 | countrymonkey | Give me your e-mail, and I will send a diff. This diff allows the hello world plugin to work. Please test that. |
| 19:55:52 | * | linuxstb_ may be confusing two different conversations... |
| 19:55:59 | PaulJam | ComradeHaz: i'm not sure, but i think ihp_100.hex is for the H110/H115 |
| 19:56:59 | austrian | lechner.m@web.de |
| 19:57:07 | linuxstb_ | Yes, ihp_100.hex is for the H110/H115, ihp_120.hex is for the H120/H140 |
| 19:57:16 | ComradeHaz | oops |
| 19:57:20 | PaulJam | ComradeHaz: make sure you patch the firmware for the H120/H140. the filename for this device should be ihp_120.hex. |
| 19:57:21 | ComradeHaz | have i been a muppet?! :D |
| 19:57:33 | linuxstb_ | austrian: You know this channel is publically logged? ;) |
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| 19:59:40 | ComradeHaz | hmm |
| 19:59:43 | ComradeHaz | 'tis kinda odd |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:15 | ComradeHaz | I've 1.66 installed on device atm, but can;t find that version on the iRiver site anymore. |
| 20:00:23 | ComradeHaz | Is it of any consequnce anyway? |
| 20:00:45 | ComradeHaz | (once rockbox has patched it? |
| 20:00:46 | countrymonkey | sentmm |
| 20:01:05 | countrymonkey | sent |
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| 20:02:27 | PaulJam | ComradeHaz: for rockbox it doesn't matter what version of the original firmware you use. |
| 20:02:41 | ComradeHaz | suspected as much |
| 20:02:41 | ComradeHaz | ta |
| 20:02:56 | countrymonkey | what? |
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| 20:11:21 | PaulJam | linuxstb_: were you the one who encoded the elephantsdream sample videos? |
| 20:11:35 | linuxstb_ | Yes |
| 20:12:07 | PaulJam | do you still know what the comandlineoptions you used were? |
| 20:13:12 | PaulJam | (for the 224x128 version) |
| 20:14:31 | linuxstb_ | Not at the moment, iI'll need to find the external drive it is on... |
| 20:16:16 | PaulJam | it's not so important, i was just courious why the sample video has so much better performance than the videos i encoded. |
| 20:18:27 | Buschel | PaulJam: try to add "-qscale 6" to the command line |
| 20:19:09 | linuxstb_ | PaulJam: You're using mpeg2enc as well? |
| 20:20:42 | Buschel | PaulJam: at least this was the command line for ffmpeg which did it for me |
| 20:21:20 | PaulJam | no, i was using mencoder but i thought the comandline might give a clue what i do differently when encodeing. or do the different encoders output very different results? |
| 20:22:41 | linuxstb_ | I don't know why, but I found mpeg2enc produced files which decoder faster than ffmpeg/mencoder when I was first working on mpegplayer. |
| 20:23:32 | PaulJam | ok, i ddin't expect that. |
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| 20:30:22 | ComradeHaz | Is it possible to get the H140 to charge from USB? |
| 20:30:52 | ComradeHaz | (I've got it working now thanks, I was being a muppet and had grabbed the wrong firmware off the iRiver site) |
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| 20:44:18 | ComradeHaz | ahh |
| 20:44:23 | ComradeHaz | please ignore that |
| 20:44:30 | ComradeHaz | I've found my answer |
| 20:44:50 | ComradeHaz | sounds like I need to go to maplin for that :D |
| 20:50:48 | BigBambi | ComradeHaz: Yeah, you need to physically alter it |
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| 20:51:02 | ComradeHaz | aye |
| 20:51:10 | ComradeHaz | think that can wait for hdd failure :) |
| 20:51:22 | BigBambi | although www.boxwave.com do a cool retractable cable with bug USB on one end, and mini usb + H100 charging plug on the other |
| 20:51:42 | BigBambi | ComradeHaz: And the ship to UK (where I guess you are from given the talk of Maplin) |
| 20:52:07 | ComradeHaz | yer |
| 20:52:22 | ComradeHaz | really want it for use in car |
| 20:52:28 | BigBambi | aha |
| 20:52:43 | ComradeHaz | got a 5v output thing from fag lighter |
| 20:52:44 | BigBambi | Well, there are car chargers, but you always have to use the power socket |
| 20:52:46 | ComradeHaz | usb |
| 20:52:52 | ComradeHaz | sure |
| 20:52:52 | BigBambi | Yeah, tis a shame |
| 20:53:00 | ComradeHaz | daft really |
| 20:53:06 | ComradeHaz | wonder wtf they were thinking |
| 20:53:12 | ComradeHaz | or maybe they just weren't :D |
| 20:54:59 | BigBambi | I can forgive them that (plus the lack of RTC) for everything else they put in - optical + line in and out, radio, recording, lcd remote, etc. etc. |
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| 21:06:27 | ComradeHaz | yer |
| 21:06:29 | ComradeHaz | that's true |
| 21:06:33 | Buschel | soap: could you make a bench with your iPod and the old svn + patch? |
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| 21:14:56 | BigBambi | Buschel: I was slightly confused by the flyspray task - which was the latest E200 patch - pp5020-test-01.patch? |
| 21:15:45 | Buschel | BigBambi: the latest including _all_ optimization for all targets is pcf-03 |
| 21:15:55 | BigBambi | OK |
| 21:15:58 | BigBambi | cheers |
| 21:16:06 | Buschel | no prbolem |
| 21:16:11 | Buschel | *problem |
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| 21:19:02 | Buschel | All those "in between" patches are test patches which always contain the former versions + some new thing (e.g. pcf settings) to test. I'll do a new major version as soon as the results show no issues and −− of course −− some kind of progress in runtime |
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| 21:35:17 | Christop | Hello. I would like to have write permission in the Rockbox Wiki. My user name is Christopher.Williams. |
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| 21:36:45 | BigBambi | Christop: Done |
| 21:37:39 | Christop | Actually my user name is ChristopherWilliams (without the period), but you found me anyway. Thanks! |
| 21:37:48 | BigBambi | no problem |
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| 22:23:13 | thgz | hi |
| 22:23:35 | thgz | Have done some testing of the voice generation script of cygwin... |
| 22:24:11 | thgz | The .voice file is not compiled right when using sapi5 as TTS, but when using Espeak things are working |
| 22:26:18 | thgz | This has no matters to me because I haven't yet a Finnish sapi5 voice, just wanted to mention |
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| 22:29:11 | thgz | *don't have |
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| 22:29:39 | amiconn | If you don't have a finnish sapi5 voice and select building a finnish voice with sapi5, it will not work |
| 22:29:45 | amiconn | That's expected behaviour |
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| 22:30:48 | joshn_ | where can I get the acbuild.pl script for a build server? |
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| 22:31:26 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/acbuild.txt |
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| 22:31:38 | Bagder | renamed to acbuild.pl with the proper execute permissions |
| 22:31:43 | thgz | Amiconn: Meant to say before that I have Finnish sapi5 voice (in fact two), but don't use them at all. |
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| 22:33:53 | joshn_ | what do I need to do to make the build script work on ubuntu? |
| 22:34:01 | joshn_ | since sh is linked to dash instead of bash? |
| 22:34:10 | amiconn | I've built dozens of sapi5 voice files successfully. I'm just reconfiguring to built current files |
| 22:34:24 | amiconn | (has been a while since I built my last bunch) |
| 22:34:25 | Bagder | joshn_: I'm not sure that's a problem with that version of acbuild.pl |
| 22:35:01 | Bagder | rasher: didn't your server use dash? |
| 22:35:22 | * | bluebrother hears the dreaded "dash" ... |
| 22:35:23 | thgz | Amiconn: I had compiled some sapi5 voices successfully last year |
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| 22:36:25 | thgz | In some build or RB it sopped accidentally working... |
| 22:36:36 | thgz | *stopped |
| 22:37:01 | thgz | r160xx |
| 22:39:38 | joshn_ | Badger: can I get the rbclient ssh key from you? |
| 22:39:58 | Bagder | it's available from here => http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rbclient-authorized_keys2 |
| 22:40:25 | Bagder | should be the ~rbclient/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file |
| 22:41:24 | Bagder | 91.191.140.131 is the source IP of the build master that'll login as rbclient |
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| 22:42:03 | joshn_ | ok |
| 22:42:44 | joshn_ | is there a way that I can test to make sure that the environment is set up correctly? |
| 22:43:11 | joshn_ | i.e. everything will build correctly? |
| 22:44:06 | Bagder | you can run the acbuild.pl script as rbclient in its home dir, but you need to be careful to pass in the correct arguments... |
| 22:44:32 | Bagder | ./acbuild.pl "20080131T173511Z" "build-h120:iriver H120 - Normal:rockbox.iriver:h120\\n\\n" |
| 22:44:37 | Bagder | ... I think |
| 22:45:15 | Bagder | ccache, sdl, zip installed? |
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| 22:48:45 | amiconn | thgz: Well, sapi5 voice building is working perfectly here.... |
| 22:48:57 | * | amiconn just built a german sapi5 voice for his X5 |
| 22:50:16 | * | amiconn will now build a fresh set of german & english voices for all his targets |
| 22:50:56 | joshn_ | should be, yes |
| 22:51:13 | thgz | Amiconn: Strange.. |
| 22:52:00 | joshn_ | Badger: a build (using the line you gave me) takes 1m12s. Is that fast enough to be useful? |
| 22:52:14 | Bagder | is indeed! |
| 22:52:28 | joshn_ | how do I "register" the host? |
| 22:52:35 | Bagder | it'll be even faster then when ccache kicks in more |
| 22:52:38 | joshn_ | got it |
| 22:52:42 | amiconn | thgz: What effect are you observing? Did you try calling 'make voice V=1' ? |
| 22:52:54 | Bagder | tell me your host name (and port number) and we're game |
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| 22:53:44 | amiconn | (V=1 means verbose) |
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| 22:55:57 | Bagder | joshn_: your host is now added |
| 22:56:00 | joshn_ | cool |
| 22:56:05 | Bagder | now we just need a commit to see it get to work |
| 22:57:58 | thgz | I tried "make voice" and "V=1 make voice" |
| 22:58:46 | thgz | V=1 make voice made out better results (90-600 kb english.voice) but normal make voice made out a file which is about 10 kb in size... |
| 22:59:47 | amiconn | 'make voice V=1', not the V=1 in front of the command |
| 22:59:53 | amiconn | That won't work properly |
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| 23:00:47 | amiconn | And it should not give different reults, but output more messages in order to track down the problem |
| 23:03:05 | thgz | Well I try running make voice v=1 |
| 23:03:14 | amiconn | V not v |
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| 23:04:31 | thgz | yes V |
| 23:06:26 | thgz | "mp3 file ./VOICE_DIR.mp3 not found!rnmp3 file ./VOICE_EXT_MPA.mp3 not found!" |
| 23:06:37 | thgz | in the end |
| 23:06:47 | thgz | Tons of this kind of errors... |
| 23:07:26 | amiconn | Are you building in a dir which has spaces in it spath? |
| 23:07:48 | amiconn | *in its path |
| 23:10:05 | thgz | no |
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| 23:10:39 | amiconn | Also, what target are you building for? Did you try reconfiguring and 'make clean' (or alternatively, to use a fresh directory)? |
| 23:11:11 | thgz | My target is SAnsa e200 |
| 23:11:13 | amiconn | And finally, what's the status of your source tree? Are you checking out from svn? |
| 23:11:47 | thgz | When I run make clean I get better results but not fully working file... Haven't tried reconfiguring yet |
| 23:12:05 | thgz | I have the latest sources from SVN |
| 23:15:51 | thgz | I got same results. |
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| 23:17:48 | amiconn | That's really odd... |
| 23:18:08 | thgz | yep |
| 23:18:55 | thgz | May it affect that I have multiple voices installed for the same language... |
| 23:19:04 | thgz | Dont believe that matters |
| 23:19:15 | amiconn | No it doesn't |
| 23:19:43 | amiconn | The script will use the first matching, unless you specify the voice to use in the sapi options |
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| 23:24:13 | idmagiK | anyone able to help me with initializing music onto rockbox? i just installed it |
| 23:24:15 | thgz | Looked the logs... SEems that the script can speak for example lang_bool_yes and rbenc can encode it successfully, but it sill can't be found... I don't understand |
| 23:25:05 | PaulJam | idmagiK: i think most people just drag and drop the music on the player. |
| 23:25:11 | thgz | idmagiK: Just put the files where you want, for example the root of your player. If you are using IPod you don't need to use ITunes... |
| 23:25:29 | idmagiK | oh, so i just move the directory? |
| 23:26:00 | thgz | IdmagiK: Well if you have a directory where you have your musics, just move it to the player |
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| 23:27:07 | idmagiK | well, i mean my music is already on the player |
| 23:27:15 | thgz | ah |
| 23:27:20 | idmagiK | yeah |
| 23:27:40 | idmagiK | but now, i don't know how to get it |
| 23:27:46 | thgz | What player do you have? If other than IPod you should see your music straight in the "files" screeen |
| 23:27:54 | idmagiK | sansa c240 |
| 23:27:55 | PaulJam | depending on what player you have, you may want to read about the database feature in the manual |
| 23:28:23 | idmagiK | i did, it didn't help |
| 23:28:46 | thgz | If you want to browse your music by artist, album etc open up database and choose initialize |
| 23:28:53 | idmagiK | i follow instructions and wait after initializing the database, it prints press prev to return |
| 23:28:59 | idmagiK | but it never does it |
| 23:29:22 | idmagiK | or after checking the debug, it says its initialized but not ready and progress at -1% |
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| 23:30:47 | thgz | Maybe no need to ask but have you rebooted the Sansa? |
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| 23:31:07 | idmagiK | yup |
| 23:31:33 | thgz | What exactly happens when you open daabase? |
| 23:31:45 | idmagiK | lets see, ill reboot it again |
| 23:31:48 | thgz | database |
| 23:31:53 | thgz | ok |
| 23:31:54 | idmagiK | so it says its not ready, to initialize |
| 23:32:03 | idmagiK | so i select it |
| 23:32:08 | idmagiK | and then it says |
| 23:32:25 | idmagiK | Building database... (some number, mine is 258) found (PREV to return) |
| 23:32:51 | BigBambi | idmagiK: Try rebooting twice after it says that |
| 23:33:02 | saratoga | has there been any discussion about GSOC2008 projects yet? |
| 23:33:18 | Bagder | saratoga: there's a wiki page at least |
| 23:33:25 | BigBambi | idmagiK: I seem to remember something about it being necessary |
| 23:33:43 | PaulJam | idmagiK: does the number increase or is it stuck at 258? |
| 23:33:46 | IzzehO | I had a similar issue on my iPod 5G.. I just put it into disk mode and recopied over the rockbox folder and it worked fine... |
| 23:34:10 | idmagiK | it increases to 258 and stays there |
| 23:34:20 | idmagiK | i rebooted it twice and then it just asks me to initialize it again |
| 23:34:45 | BigBambi | Oh, 258 isn't all? |
| 23:34:52 | idmagiK | i think 258 should be all |
| 23:34:55 | BigBambi | Do you have anything like embedded album art in your tags |
| 23:35:09 | idmagiK | i don't think so |
| 23:35:17 | PaulJam | then the database initialisation seems to hang. it usually should return to the main menu once it finishes. |
| 23:35:54 | saratoga | Bagder: yeah I wrote half the ideas on there :) |
| 23:36:00 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:36:05 | saratoga | when do the applications to google go out? |
| 23:36:37 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 23:36:45 | BigBambi | idmagiK: Try deleting all .tcd files in the ./rockbox folder then retry |
| 23:37:41 | saratoga | rockbox has to apply sooner then the students right? |
| 23:38:16 | rasher | Bagder: That was the vmware buildserver - I'm running natively now (and not using dash) |
| 23:38:45 | amiconn | thgz: I just got a similar effect (.voice file being only 5K) when building my first english.voice today. Turned out that some gibberish sneaked into my Makefile |
| 23:39:31 | amiconn | If you accidentally press some cursor buttons when the script asks for sapi options or encoder options, this can obviously happen... |
| 23:39:40 | rasher | Bagder: The problem was setting the path at the bottom of .bashrc, which has if [ -z "$PS1" ]; then; exit; fi on Debian |
| 23:40:05 | thgz | Amiconn: Didn't press any cursor buttons other than enter |
| 23:40:23 | idmagiK | uhhh, how come i can't see the rockbox folder anymore |
| 23:41:56 | BigBambi | what OS? |
| 23:42:09 | idmagiK | windows? |
| 23:42:22 | BigBambi | I don't know then |
| 23:42:44 | BigBambi | folders beginning with a full stop are hidden on *nix but not windows |
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| 23:43:14 | pocketninja | hey guys |
| 23:43:28 | pocketninja | can anyone here answer a question for me |
| 23:43:39 | rasher | BigBambi: Isn't the hidden attribute set on the .rockbox dir? Or am I imagining things? |
| 23:43:49 | BigBambi | rasher: I didn't think so |
| 23:43:52 | idmagiK | nvm, i had to restart it in the default firmware |
| 23:43:53 | BigBambi | But maybe :) |
| 23:43:55 | idmagiK | and then change it to ums |
| 23:43:57 | amiconn | The hidden attribute is not set |
| 23:44:08 | pocketninja | can anyone hear me? |
| 23:44:16 | rasher | pocketninja: you haven't asked anything yet |
| 23:44:21 | idmagiK | i don't see .tcd files |
| 23:44:23 | amiconn | But rockbox handles both the hidden attribute and .dotdirs/.dotfiles as hidden, unless the view is set to all |
| 23:44:25 | pocketninja | o lol |
| 23:44:36 | rasher | amiconn: Yeah, I was thinking of Windows |
| 23:44:49 | BigBambi | idmagiK: I'm stumped then I'm afraid |
| 23:44:54 | pocketninja | do you know if anyone is porting rockbox to the samsung yp-p2 |
| 23:45:12 | BigBambi | pocketninja: I belive there is a thread on it in the new ports forum |
| 23:45:24 | pocketninja | o ok thank you ;) |
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| 23:47:37 | idmagiK | oh yeah, for some reason, i do have some album art |
| 23:48:24 | IzzehO | im having trouble compiling latest svn in cygwin - keeps giving me errors in action.c or something... any quick way to remove all applied patches so i can try a clean compile? |
| 23:49:14 | thgz | Amiconn: More testing done: I didn't press any cursor keys and stayed on the cygwin window, output file is 10 k. |
| 23:49:30 | IzzehO | forum thread has about 70 suggestions but no one every summarizes which does the job best :S |
| 23:49:50 | rasher | thgz: enter "V=1 make voice" as your command - hopefully that should give some useful debug output |
| 23:50:03 | BigBambi | IzzehO: svn revert -R . |
| 23:50:14 | BigBambi | don't forget the full stop at the end |
| 23:50:28 | thgz | IzzeH: Backup your builds, remove the whole directory where you downloaded rockbox and download it again from svn |
| 23:50:34 | thgz | That's the way I use |
| 23:50:55 | idmagiK | BigBambi, i got it working but it's strange |
| 23:51:16 | idmagiK | when i do ums mode or whatever its called, i see transparent folders labeled music, record, fm, etc. |
| 23:51:16 | IzzehO | No point backing up my build I guess.. haven't been able to compile in about 2 months... |
| 23:51:27 | idmagiK | along with my rockbox folder |
| 23:51:33 | BigBambi | idmagiK: Yep |
| 23:51:36 | idmagiK | oh |
| 23:51:41 | idmagiK | so i import music into that folder? |
| 23:51:46 | BigBambi | They are part of the Sansa firmware |
| 23:51:49 | BigBambi | I wouldn't |
| 23:51:50 | idmagiK | then what happened to the folder from my original firmware |
| 23:51:55 | idmagiK | oh |
| 23:51:56 | idmagiK | i did |
| 23:51:59 | idmagiK | and then that music worked |
| 23:52:11 | BigBambi | The Sansa OF hides the music folder everytime the OF is booted |
| 23:52:16 | BigBambi | Which is annoying for rockbox |
| 23:52:29 | BigBambi | If you want to use the file tree |
| 23:52:36 | IzzehO | ooh revert fixed action.c - now to figure out which patch is messing it up... |
| 23:52:38 | | Join pocketninja [0] (n=chatzill@c-76-28-148-220.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:52:48 | pocketninja | hello |
| 23:53:09 | thgz | Pocketninja: Hello again |
| 23:53:12 | BigBambi | idmagiK: Make another folder called Audio, or whatever you want and put it in there, then both the OF, rockbox file tree and database should see it without having to muck around |
| 23:53:19 | BigBambi | But if you have it working, :) |
| 23:53:38 | pocketninja | can everyone hear me or just you? |
| 23:53:56 | IzzehO | yeah we can hear ya |
| 23:54:04 | pocketninja | lol ok |
| 23:54:06 | BigBambi | Everyone, but yet again you haven't asked a question |
| 23:54:17 | Bagder | pocketninja: for a new port you need to get things going yourself, you own the device |
| 23:54:19 | rasher | pocketninja: do you honestly expect 150 people to say "hi" to you? |
| 23:54:24 | pocketninja | yes i do |
| 23:54:27 | BigBambi | pocketninja: Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines |
| 23:54:42 | pocketninja | i do own the device |
| 23:54:52 | Bagder | there's no magic porting team that will come to rescue |
| 23:55:08 | thgz | Pocketninja: No you can't really *wink* |
| 23:55:10 | | Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) |
| 23:55:18 | | Quit nicktastic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:56:31 | IzzehO | Has the problems with disk mode been fixed yet? |
| 23:56:52 | BigBambi | Which problem? |
| 23:57:38 | pocketninja | yea i know i actually wanted to know if someone could tell me what knowledge i need to help a team port rockbox to the p2 |
| 23:57:57 | BigBambi | pocketninja: See the NewPorts page on the wiki |
| 23:58:09 | pocketninja | i already did |
| 23:58:15 | IzzehO | It wouldn't go into disc mode.. rather just charge from USB - Had to boot into original firmware every time... it was listed on the rockbox site as a problem but I can't seem to find if it's been solved yet or not.. |
| 23:58:32 | BigBambi | IzzehO: On the iPods rockbox has never had a diskmode |
| 23:58:34 | | Quit idmagiK () |
| 23:58:55 | BigBambi | It used to reboot automatically to apple's diskmode |
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