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#rockbox log for 2008-02-02

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00:01:58crzyboysterWhere are the background menu images for cabbie 2.0 stored in SVN?
00:02:01RogerBaconholy .... this is the 2 ugliest player i ever see .. :
00:02:21crzyboysterNever mind, found it.
00:05:11 Quit PaulJam (".")
00:07:17crzyboysterNew version of the 160x128x2 port at >
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00:17:01crzyboysterI think that a new "fix patch" for cabbie 2.0 should be committed which includes the fixed e200 and the new 160x128x2 version
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00:18:48Bagdersubtitled "the sandisk race"
00:19:01BigBambiBagder: Does -1 there mean it went up 1? Surely that should be +1 ?
00:19:17Bagderhehe, yeah perhaps
00:19:25rasherI was about to ask that... having the top one be -1 seems awfully wrong
00:19:27BagderI'll change
00:19:28BigBambiIt looks very odd to me like that
00:19:42BigBambicoolio :)
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00:20:55Bagderok, changed
00:20:56BigBambiBagder: That's better :)
00:21:09pixelmacrzyboyster: could you try avoiding thumbs.db files in your zips, please? :)
00:21:46BigBambiQuite popular this little project
00:21:59rasherBagder: nice stats, though few surprises (except rec8mb is above recv2 and fmrecorder)
00:22:15BigBambic200 surprises me a little
00:22:58BigBambiespecially as sansa = e200 (no tell pixelma)
00:23:38crzyboysterpixelma: Sorry about that! It won't happen again, but for some reason my windows computer like spitting them out even though they're disabled...
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00:25:32Bagder224321 unique visitors on the site during jan-2008...
00:26:00BigBambiAt least four of those were me :)
00:26:42Bagderoh, then make that 224317+bigbambi ;-P
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00:29:57BigBambiWhilst we are on the subject, I'd like to say I enjoy your blog Bagder - interesting and insightful
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00:34:48pixelmaBagder: was it Cassandra who wrote
00:35:37BagderI wrote it initially, but she's modified it
00:36:19rasherActually, svn blame gives you the complete blame
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00:36:56rashererr no
00:37:07pixelmaah, I'm just asking because the latest changes don't seem clever enough to me (note: this is just my impression, my klowledge about perl is >< this big)
00:37:07rasherBut does. Odd
00:37:35rasherIgnore me.
00:37:40BagderI'll admit I haven't looked at saratoga's changes
00:38:30pixelmaexample, I can find "line selector start color: fde89e" in a cfg made for M5
00:39:44Bagderthe script does extract lcd depth so those things should be easy to fix
00:39:58crzyboysterHow is the whole unifont version going to work out?
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00:40:35pixelmaBagder: and some settings (like the colour settings) are listed multiple times for each colour display separately even though there are all the same
00:40:52pixelmain WPSLIST, I mean
00:42:21pixelmaI would think it's possible to list it once and include it for all colour displays... as you say it could IIUC
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00:50:17XavierGrwow Bger is here! Hello Bger long time no see! :)
00:50:41XavierGrbah gone :(
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00:55:03pixelmalooks interesting to have a M5 and X5 sim with −−background next to each other...
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01:06:55saratoga3if anyone sees things i've missed in the build script, please let me know
01:07:09saratoga3i honestly don't have any idea what most of those fields even do
01:08:05pixelmasaratoga3: do we really need this many defines for the cabbiev2 in WPSLIST? I mean, why not define "selector type" once and make the use it for all colour targets' cfg files? And what is the min width and height for?
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01:08:59|NSA|(+7) sansac200 3490 [2841] << that was due to w00t
01:09:14 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)")
01:09:52|NSA|they had like 20k of them going for $16 a pop, most of the buyers were those who planned to put rockbox on it
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01:10:10saratoga3pixelma: min height and width don't do anything, but IIRC the wiki says to include them
01:10:17saratoga3i assumed they were for some future feature or something
01:11:23pixelmaI don't see it in any other WPSs (iCatcher is as complete as cabbie, except it has no gradient settings etc.)
01:13:50pixelmabut that page doesn't describe what you have to include in WPSLIST, no?
01:14:53pixelmasaratoga3: since I'm about to commit changes there anyways, could I just scratch that part?
01:16:21saratoga3pixelma: I'm also about to commit changes, maybe we should discuss this
01:16:38pixelmawhat changes?
01:16:55saratoga3would you change the mix12 font for cabbie to helvR10?
01:17:00saratoga3that way i don't have to touch that file
01:17:13saratoga3i can just upload the changed wps for it when you're done
01:17:24pixelmayes, I already have the patch from the tracker in my tree...
01:17:46saratoga3ah even better
01:17:48pixelmathere was one by crzyboyster (he was around a few minutes ago)
01:18:08saratoga3did you add the sansa fix i haven't bothered to committ yet?
01:18:34pixelmaand I also made the rwps inclusion iCatcher style (and it works correctly here)
01:18:44saratoga3but sure, please make any changes you see fit
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01:18:50pixelmano (about the sansa fix)
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01:19:12saratoga3would you? i think its just replacing one wps file for another
01:19:38pixelmasure, there was also a patch in the tracker, right?
01:20:41pixelmaok, patch is a bit of an exaggeration here :)
01:22:32pixelmasaratoga3: just checking... is there something else?
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01:24:10crzyboysterAs for which version of the fixed e200 version to commit, the one on and posted on "Tuesday, 22 January 2008, 23:40 GMT" should be the one. NOT the one seperately on the patch tracker
01:24:35pixelmasaratoga3: and last thing I prepared - the iaudio rwps backdrop was the wrong one (from the unicode version) now the right one
01:26:18pixelmacrzyboyster: ok, thanks
01:26:34saratoga3does SVN deal with overwriting binary files with unchanged versions?
01:26:43saratoga3i am afraid to do that for fear that it will think they've changed
01:27:07crzyboysterThe one on this page ( will have the following changes: wps files, progressbars, and background images
01:27:22crzyboyster(That should be all, I think)
01:27:48pixelmacrzyboyster: but the only thing changed for e200 is only in the .wps, right?
01:28:45pixelmasaratoga3: no idea, really
01:30:44crzyboysterLet me find out for sure...
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01:31:49crzyboysterIt's all that's included in the post from "Tuesday, 22 January 2008, 23:40 GMT" attachment
01:32:17crzyboysterwps file, progressbar and background file
01:40:05pixelmacrzyboyster: ok, the progressbar is a little wider overall now (if I have the right files)?
01:43:17crzyboysterYes, that is the way ZincAlloy intended to make them, but they were not committed that way
01:43:50saratoga3pixelma: do you know much about the wps paser itself in rockbox?
01:44:03saratoga3i've been hacking it up trying to figure out all the settings we need to make cabbie a default font
01:44:12saratoga3but its sort of hard since i have no idea what most of the stuff does
01:44:25saratoga3right now i can do font, backdrop and wps file but not the rest
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01:45:18pixelmaI only know the wps syntax from a user pov and that Nico_P is the one to blame for the parser ;)
01:46:32pixelmasaratoga3: got the rest ready. Shall I dump the min height and width things... yes or yes? :)
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02:11:22*pixelma hopes she didn't forget something
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02:13:31A_lil_manhello. Someone know a good site to get 176*132(thats ipod nano first gen) size wallpapers?
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02:24:33jac0bI have tried the commit for 29 Jan 06:57 that uses playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists" but it doesn't work
02:24:47jac0batleast in the sim
02:25:01pixelmadid you try after today's fix too?
02:25:27jac0bI will try it now
02:25:49rasherjac0b: It's generally a good idea to do this before saying that something doesn't work.
02:26:13jac0bI was tring it on r16195-080202 build
02:29:11jac0bit still doesn't save the playlist to the directory I want
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02:29:50countrymonkeyJust checking out what's happening here.
02:30:04jac0bjust tried it on r16196
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02:44:02PaulJamwith the latest changes in mpegplayer i get audio dropouts when it rebuffers. :(
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02:46:27LloreanPaulJam: Well he did say it'd get a bit less performance. If your videos are encoded depending on the upper limit of performance, they could be expected to have dropouts now
02:48:16PaulJamoh, i didn't read that the performance is expected to be lower.
02:49:12LloreanDo you have any settings like crossfeed or equalizer enabled?
02:51:20PaulJamno, they are all set to "force off" in the mpegplayer settings
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02:52:49PaulJami'm trying the elephantsdream video now...
02:53:04LloreanSee how many FPS you can get if you disable the limits.
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03:06:03webguest13is this thing alive
03:06:17webguest13thankfully it is :)
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03:08:28PaulJamLlorean: without the limits i get ~23.5 FPS average and with i get ~21 FPS (and audio drops out when rebuffering)
03:08:56PaulJami don't think the performance is too bad.
03:10:22jhMikeSPaulJam: which player?
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03:14:57jhMikeSAll my coldfire checks showed that I could run every effect at once without dropouts or even much framerate loss but may I have a clue. I came across on a couple on gigabeat during what I think were long wait times for the harddisk to be ready (long head seeks).
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03:17:19PaulJami had the impression that the dropout happens while the disk is spinning up. maybe i should mention that i don't use the original harddrive, but a MK4007GAL instead.
03:19:07jhMikeSRight now I'm looking in the thread priority evaluation in thread.c. I've been suspicious of my own changes there and it might be wise to rethink it a bit.
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03:25:02PaulJamjhMikeS: i now held the player to my ear and i get a dropout while the disk spins up (before it even starts reading) and then a very short dropout when it spins down again.
03:35:57jhMikeSWant to test a patch? I just want to run another check real quick first.
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03:44:34PaulJamthanks, i'll try it
03:45:38jhMikeSI think I blundered badly there. No other thread would've been able to run during the busy wait in the ATA driver unless it was over-aged.
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03:55:33PaulJamjhMikeS: with your patch i don't get any dropouts anymore. thank you.
03:57:30jhMikeSgreat. think I'll commit that one.
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04:11:53rasherMy buildserver appears to be broken. Dammit.
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04:37:07BigBambiyou never know...
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04:50:03crazy_busdoes rockbox usually have trouble resuming bookmarks. Or is the build I downloaded bad (yesterday)
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08:28:00rbnovicehi, i want to use 'sin' function in a plugin, but i suspect my device (sansa c2xx) doesn't support float too well, and maybe 'sin' isn't supported. i can't find this in the docs, anyone know off-hand?
08:28:27rbnovice(do i just need to create my own sin-table in a header, and include that?)
08:32:38LloreanI think there's already some math functions for plugins, though I'm not sure where they're located specifically.
08:33:38amiconnRockbox does not use floating point in the core, and even plugins should avoid it wherever possible
08:33:43rbnovicei found a reference to fsin in one of the dsp-related things (codec maybe), but it seems to give bad values. i could have miscast something though
08:34:03amiconnUse fixed point arithmetics wherever possible, as it is faster by factors.
08:34:12rbnoviceokay, i will use a sintab then. i'm already used fixed-point for everything else
08:34:17Lloreanamiconn: Don't we have a fixed point math library for plugins, or the beginnings of one?
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08:34:18amiconnE.g. cube.c contains a fixed point sine table
08:34:34*Llorean seems to remember a lot of talk about this half a year back or so
08:34:48rbnovicecool, i will look at cube.c
08:36:14amiconnAH, no, someone moved it oout of there
08:36:16rbnoviceah, sweet, there's an .../apps/plugins/lib/fixedpoint.h/c
08:36:33rbnoviceerm, .[hc]
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08:37:19rbnoviceand it has a sin_int function
08:37:41amiconnThat's the one moved out of cube.c
08:37:43rbnovicethat should suffice for now
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09:18:21ShamusNYjust converted my ipod mini
09:18:47ShamusNYi'm using database format (ephpod file structure)
09:18:59ShamusNYhow the hell do I run in ALBUM mode?
09:19:44ShamusNYif i choose ALBUM -> ALL TRACKS it is completely out of order
09:21:59rbnovicewell, i'm not an expert yet, but fwiw, make sure your ID3 info is bang-on
09:22:52rbnovice(if it's not, you'll get weird sorting)
09:24:06pixelmaShamusNY: if your tags are ok, the tracks should be in Album > "Name of Album". "<all tracks> lists all tracks in it...
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09:39:23rbnovicei'm working on a plugin; to build/test first time, from 'sim', working dir for sim, i do 'make' and then 'make install'; for subsequent build/test, i do 'make rocks' followed by 'cp apps/plugins/foo.rock archos/.rockbox/rocks/demos/'... is there any faster/easier method? (something more precise than 'make rocks')
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09:41:27ShamusNYmy id3 is correct
09:42:49ShamusNYi am trying DB -> Album -> <all tracks> -> which displays the TRACKS for each album
09:42:54ShamusNYwhich is not what i want
09:43:25ShamusNYbcs the tracks are alphabetical now
09:43:30rbnovicedo you mean you're trying to get it to play all tracks of a particular album?
09:43:30ShamusNYand not in album order
09:43:39ShamusNYno i want to play each album in order
09:44:06pixelmawhy do you go "all tracks" then?
09:44:32ShamusNYwhat should i do
09:45:38ShamusNYif i pick ONE album, it only plays that album
09:46:47pixelmathen I don't understand whyt you want
09:46:48advlaptop2019i think i know what ShamusNY wants
09:47:20ShamusNYthe ipod does it perfect.. there is SHUFFLE=ALBUM mode
09:47:45ShamusNYi then go to album listing, pick the first album and FFWD to last track in album
09:47:47advlaptop2019ShamusNY want to play the tracks in the album by track number
09:48:05ShamusNYit randomly picks a new album to go to and plays all of the songs inde that "album" together
09:48:07advlaptop2019ShamusNY, am i right?
09:48:18ShamusNYfor mix cds
09:48:52ShamusNYotherwise i get rock, audiobook, techno, techno, rock
09:49:08rbnoviceoh yeah, i still have to try out the gapless playback for that... i can't believe most commercial players still don't do that
09:49:58ShamusNYthe problem is it is alphabetizing the tracks
09:50:02ShamusNYi want no sorting
09:50:05ShamusNYalbum sorting
09:53:18ShamusNYit seems like there needs to be a context menu
09:53:30ShamusNYwhere i can just hit play on the "ALBUMS" view and it goes
09:53:46ShamusNYi don't want to select a specific album i wanna play by album
09:54:00ShamusNYit seems you can do this with "file tree" mode
09:54:05ShamusNYbut not with id3 tags
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09:56:29ShamusNYthats the problem
09:56:45ShamusNYin ipod mode ALBUMS -> ALL - sorts the tracks by album
09:56:48ShamusNYnot alphabetically
09:56:54ShamusNYthere too much sorting
10:03:35pixelmayou could do this with a custom database entry (currently that would display the album name too in the track list though, might look a bit weird) some discussion here: . This is all I know
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10:04:51pixelmathat would at least take care of the track order, not play by album randomly
10:10:10ShamusNYi saw that
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10:27:46ShamusNYi cant figure it out
10:33:00ShamusNYIf you make make these selections: Artists > All > All, then press the Play button, iPod will choose an album at random and play it in its entirety. iPod will then shuffle to another album and play it in its entirety. Albums are not repeated until iPod has played through the entire list.
10:33:00ShamusNYIf you choose a song from the Songs list, iPod will play that song, then the remainder of the album associated with that song. iPod will then shuffle to another song in the Songs list, play it, then play the remainder of the album associated with that song. For example, if iPod chooses track 8 on an album with 15 tracks, Album shuffle will play tracks 8 through 15 of that album, but not 1 through 7.
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12:07:28linuxstbAnyone know if the list widget has always done fullscreen (minus the statusbar) updates, even if they're not needed? I thought someone had changed that?
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12:48:57homieloweAny devs with a good understanding of the simulator?
12:49:14Bagderjust ask and you'll find out
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12:51:12*amiconn ponders the feasibility of a remote greyscale library, or rather, using the lib for the remote when there is no greyscale main lcd
12:51:14homieloweUpon executing rockboxui on my iPodtouch I get " Cannot create sim handler mtx , sim kernel init failed" I am able to do ./rockboxui −−help and it will spit out the help commands though
12:51:29amiconnThat would be possible on H300 and X5, but not on H1x0 and M5
12:52:16devurandomI am just trying to install RockBox to my iPod nano 1st gen, but rbutil says "searching ipods..., no ipods found" What might be the reason?
12:52:30devurandom(When installing the bootloader)
12:52:51devurandomOn the console it says "[INFO] Scanning disk devices..."
12:52:51amiconnAre you running rbutil as Admin (windows) / root (linux) ?
12:53:08Bagderhomielowe: is that the exact error message?
12:53:18devurandomWill try that.
12:53:24homieloweBagder: Yes
12:53:33amiconnIf not, it won't work. That's mentioned in the manual afaik
12:53:52amiconnThat is, it might only be mentioned for the manual install method...
12:54:23Bagderhomielowe: actually, it wasn't the exact message. The exact message uses underscores too
12:54:41Bagderhomielowe: see uisimulator/sdl/kernel.c:96
12:54:42devurandomamiconn: Yep, I think it doesnt say that for rbutil.
12:54:57BagderSDL_CreateMutex() fails
12:54:59devurandomMaybe there should be a more detailed error message... ;)
12:55:44devurandomThanks, now it works.
12:56:01rashermoos: You do know that all translators will be bothered now since you changed english.lang?
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12:56:50rashermoos: At least all translators with those strings already translated
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12:57:37pixelmarasher: is that important in the description line?
12:57:59Bagderit could be
12:58:07rasherpixelma: well the translators will be told "desc changed"
12:58:40homieloweBagder: no underscores for me though :S
12:58:57homielowenm , bad eyes :S
13:00:15devurandomw000t, it works. :)
13:00:40devurandomNow it hangs. :(
13:00:52amiconndevurandom: For most tasks you don't need to run rbuitl as admin/root, but for installing the bootloader you do
13:01:08devurandomWhat is that database I needed to build?
13:01:13amiconnThis is because normal users aren't allowed to access raw devices
13:01:20devurandomYes, figured that now.
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13:02:37devurandomPlainly assumed it would just have to overwrite a file or something.
13:03:45devurandomDo I have to use my RockBox iPod as a plain disk, or can I continue to use my Apple iPod settings in Amarok?
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13:04:02devurandomI.e. does RockBox sync with the iTunesDB?
13:09:45soapno it does not
13:10:38soapBUT, Rockbox can build its own database by scanning the files on your player's hard drive - even if they have the obscured file structure of the original Apple Firmware.
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13:25:07HorschtI am pretty confident one could write a shell script, that would sync a folder on an ipod with a local folder, convert any cover or folder.jpg to cover.bmp, remove all jpegs
13:25:13*rasher stares in disbelief at the build errors on his server
13:25:22Horschtknowing the mighty shell
13:25:25rasherI *do* have arm-elf-gcc in rbclient's PATH
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13:33:56Teldane90hiho @ll
13:34:55rasherBagder: wouldn't it make sense to put in tools/ such that it can be updated without needing to get hold of each client?
13:38:48oborasher: different j values...
13:39:11rasherHm, that could be loaded from an external file perhaps?
13:39:34oboor from the output of /proc/cpuinfo ;)
13:40:17Teldane90if got a problem with album art, maybe anybody can help me
13:41:56rasherTeldane90: are you going to tell us, or will we have to guess?
13:42:09Teldane90u have to guess :D
13:42:40Teldane90the covers arent in the playlist, but on pictureflow i can see them (sry 4 my bad english :P)
13:43:01Teldane90my theme is zenpod
13:44:28Teldane90i read in the wiki, that i have to put in something like Arathis %C
13:45:13Teldane90sry, i mean like thi s: "%C"
13:46:09Teldane90ahh and my player is iAudio x5L
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13:52:34Teldane90rasher, maybe u can help me ??
13:54:08pixelmacovers in the playlist?
13:55:51Teldane90i dont know the real meaning in english ... hmm ... when u are playing a song, in this window ... there should be a cover (like Arathis )
13:58:16Teldane90u are knowing what i mean, pixelma ??
13:58:57Teldane90yes i know, but it doesnt work
13:59:10Horschthave you named the cover cover.bmp?
13:59:38Teldane90yes and the size is 100x100
13:59:47Teldane90in pictureflow it works
13:59:55Teldane90but not in the "playlist"
13:59:59Horschtwhat is pictureflow?
14:00:37TiMiD[FD]a plugin
14:00:45Teldane90yes a plugin
14:01:14Horschtpicture viewer?
14:01:22TiMiD[FD]no idea
14:02:13TiMiD[FD]looks nice
14:02:21TiMiD[FD]too bad I have a greyscale display
14:02:47Horschtnice, gonna try that later, after my battery bench
14:02:56Horschtanyways, what Ipod are you using?
14:03:56ArathisTeldane90: why is my name in your posts? oO. or is it a local thing with nick-replacement? ...
14:04:11pixelmaHorscht: no Ipod - an X5L, already mentioned here ;)
14:04:29Horschtah there
14:04:30Teldane90i dont know maybe acros ... everytime i write "this" there is coming this
14:04:37Teldane90ah sry there
14:04:46Teldane90hmm i dont know whitch word :
14:05:16Teldane90ahhh "this:" => Arathis
14:05:29Teldane90sry 4 highlighting
14:06:06pixelmaTeldane90: could you try with the included "cabbiev2" WPS (while playing screen) because I believe it could be a broken theme...
14:06:23HorschtTeldane90, you say you are using this theme:
14:07:14Teldane90what is cabbiev2 ??
14:07:15Horschtzenpod doesn't support covers, and zenpodv2 - 5 need a patched build
14:07:21Horschtcabbiev2 is a theme
14:07:28Teldane90wait, i look
14:08:02Teldane90@ @ll themes it doesnt work ... thats the serious ...
14:08:05rasherHorscht: It's included in the main rockbox build. No need to download it.
14:08:43Teldane90kay, cabbie i have, wait, i look
14:09:11Horschtit is? I always downloaded it :D
14:09:42Teldane90ahh there it works ...
14:09:52Horschtbroken theme then
14:10:08Teldane90hmm where is the problem whith zenpdv2
14:10:23Teldane90hmm, maybe the changed font ??
14:10:36Horschtit requires a patched build
14:10:51Horschtit was created before stock SVN of rockbox included cover art
14:11:09Teldane90kay, and how can i patched it ??
14:11:51pixelmaI wouldn't use such a patched build but fix the WPS instead
14:12:04Teldane90i paste into the .wps somehting like this %Cl|50|70|c100|b100|
14:12:44Teldane90sry i doesnt understand ... how can i fix it ??
14:12:54Horschtwps editing was something i never grasped
14:13:13Horschti mean, i put it in, but how can i define where on the screen it is displayed?
14:13:13BigBambiTeldane90: and
14:13:35BigBambiHorscht: For text by line and for pictures with x/y co-ordinates
14:13:46BigBambiAnd soon for everything by viewports
14:13:48Teldane90BigBambi yes im knowing the wiki ...
14:13:56BigBambiTeldane90: That tells you how to do it
14:14:17BigBambiHorscht: Check the wiki and flyspray
14:14:19Teldane90yes, i know, i did it, but something wrong ...
14:14:26Teldane90so i asked here ...
14:14:30BigBambiThey allow you too split the screen into smaller areas basically
14:15:19BigBambiTeldane90: You need to explain better what you have done and what the problem is. I don't quite understand at the moment. I appreciate this is hard in English.
14:16:04Teldane90yes very hard :
14:16:46Horschtafter you edited the wps, you need to "reload" the wps
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14:16:57BigBambiFrom what I gather you are trying to adapt a theme that is written for an old patched build for current svn
14:17:03Teldane90hmm this is the wps
14:17:03Teldane90wps: /.rockbox/wps/zenpod_V2.wps
14:17:04Teldane90font: /.rockbox/fonts/helvR10.fnt
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14:17:04Teldane90rwps: /.rockbox/wps/iAmp.rwps
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14:17:04Teldane90backdrop: /.rockbox/backdrops/zenpod_backdrop.bmp
14:17:06Teldane90foreground color: FFFFFF
14:17:08Teldane90background color: 000000
14:17:13BigBambiTeldane90: Please stop
14:17:29Teldane90so and there i have to put in the code %Cl|50|70|c100|b100|
14:17:30BigBambiTeldane90: Do not post loads of stuff to the channel
14:17:38Teldane90its not long :
14:17:41BigBambiUse something like
14:17:41Teldane90that was @ll
14:17:47BigBambiTeldane90: Do not do it
14:18:00pixelmaTeldane90: this is not the wps, this is the theme file (.cfg)
14:18:20pixelmayou have to edit the .wps file
14:18:24Teldane90ahh nice page :) thanks
14:18:44BigBambiPlease copy the .wps file to and give us the link
14:19:26BigBambiTeldane90: As pixelma says, that is the theme config file - it says to load a WPS (here zenpod_V2.wps) - it is that .wps file you need to edit
14:20:18BigBambiline 15 is wrong for a start
14:20:39Teldane90yes ??
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14:20:57BigBambithat should have your %Cl etc. part to define the album art, and then use %C to show it
14:21:28BigBambiTeldane90: Look through each line of that .wps file and compare it to and
14:21:38BigBambiIf it is wrong, correct it from those
14:21:59Teldane90slowly for me pls :
14:22:21BigBambihaha - from that .wps - "Requires at least ROCKbox H300 Experimental 1.02 Stable"
14:22:23Teldane90line 15 is wrong, there i have to paste in %C
14:22:29BigBambiExperimental stable :)
14:22:42BigBambiTeldane90: No
14:23:20pixelmagotta go, good luck :)
14:23:28BigBambiIf you look at it tells you to define the album art with %Cl|x|y|[l|c|r]maxwidth|[t|c|b]maxheight|
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14:23:55BigBambiSo you should use that syntax on line 15 instead
14:24:25BigBambiThen later in the file somewhere, you use %C which tells it to use the album art you defined with %Cl|x|y|[l|c|r]maxwidth|[t|c|b]maxheight|
14:24:49Teldane90stop :
14:25:12BigBambiTeldane90: I have to go now (to buy beer before the rugby starts!), but I'll be back in a bit if you are still stuck
14:25:43Teldane90i open the .wps in editor and change line 15 to %Cl|50|70|c100|b100|
14:26:00Teldane90kay, till there, thank u very much
14:26:20Teldane90(im waiting here, kay ?)
14:26:23rasherBagder: any obvious places to look to figure out why my buildserver failed?
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14:30:07BigBambiTeldane90: sure
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14:41:57amiconnrasher: Did you try to log in as rbclient and check the path?
14:44:05rasheramiconn: yeah, that works just fine :|
14:45:45rasherrasher@devi:~$ ssh -l rbclient gaia.local arm-elf-gcc
14:45:45rasherbash: arm-elf-gcc: command not found
14:46:24rasherAh, rubbish
14:46:29rasher[ -z "$PS1" ] && return
14:46:42rasherBetter have my PATH set above that...
14:47:24rasherAnd yet, still nothing
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14:48:04rasherOkay, now it's getting bizarre
14:49:02rasher$ ssh -l rbclient gaia.local echo \$PATH
14:49:06rasherAnd yet still nothing.
14:49:24rasheroh gosh deleted that while I was experimenting
14:50:24amiconnYou have the toolchain in rbclient's home?
14:50:31amiconnStrange place, imo
14:51:33rasherWhy? It's the only place rbclient has write permissions
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15:45:56BigBambiTeldane90: I have replaced the album art parts, but I don't know if the margin there is done properly. Give it a go. Incidently, this theme uses 75x75 album art, so you also need cover.75x75.bmp, or cover.bmp that is 75x75.
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15:48:53Teldane90ahhh and when i want to use the album arts in 100x100 ?? what i have to change
15:49:38BigBambiTeldane90: Well, you would need to rearrange the whole theme
15:49:56BigBambiIf the picture is bigger it will cover other parts unless you move them
15:50:11Teldane90ah kay
15:50:29BigBambiBut just to display it change %Cl|2|19|c75|c75| to %Cl|2|19|c100|c100|
15:50:51Teldane90and this code i have to paste into the zenpod_V2.wps ??
15:51:09BigBambiYes, replace what is there
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15:51:18Teldane90kay, i look, thanks
15:51:36BigBambiI think the syntax of the %m is wrong too, but I'm not sure
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15:55:03Teldane90hmm ... ne grafics ...
15:55:59BigBambiTeldane90: Does the rest of it work, or do you get the default WPS?
15:56:11Teldane90oO ??
15:56:20BigBambiWhat does that mean?
15:56:35Teldane90i take the zenpodv2 vps and paste the code form u into
15:57:00Teldane90oO = smiley = i doesnt understand :D
15:57:37BigBambiDelete everything in zenpodv2.wps and replace it with that from the link I pasted. And please use full words etc.m like you = u. Many people without English as a first language find it hard to understand if you don't use real words. You should understand that!
15:58:48Teldane90you arent an english people too ??
15:59:00BigBambiYes, I'm British, but many people here aren't
15:59:39Teldane90kay, im too, im from germany :)
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16:00:31PaulJamthe %m tag is only allowed to have one parameter (leftmargin), so the wps will not load.
16:00:40BigBambiPaulJam: That is what I thought
16:00:58Horschtif you are from germany, why are you using the weird ¿ sign?
16:00:59Teldane90that mean for me ??
16:01:04BigBambiBut I wasn't sure, and I've been trying to find out whether it was loading or not :)
16:01:19Teldane90weird ?? whats that
16:01:22BigBambiHorscht: Yeah, I had assumed Spanish or something
16:01:36BigBambiTeldane90: Odd. Only ? exists in English
16:01:48Horschtin german, too
16:04:00Teldane90what is odd ??
16:04:25Horschtthe ¿ sign
16:04:32BigBambi?¿? is odd. In English (and German I hear), we use ? for a question, not ?¿?
16:04:49BigBambiAnyway, this is getting off topic
16:05:01BigBambiDoes work?
16:05:12Teldane90u mean why i am writing an questionmark like this ?? ??
16:05:28BigBambiyes. But it is off topic, and please use you not u
16:05:28Teldane90thats my acros ...
16:05:41Teldane90ah shit, sry BigBambi :
16:06:07BigBambiAnd please do not swear!
16:07:17Teldane90what is swear ??
16:07:38BigBambiUse coarse language.
16:08:27Teldane90ahhh ... sorry, ill be better in future :)
16:08:48BigBambino worries :)
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16:10:38Teldane90BigBambi im loving you :-* it works :-*
16:10:45BigBambiCool :)
16:10:53Teldane90yes very cool :-*
16:11:17simonrvntopic: Please read before speaking:
16:11:43BigBambisimonrvn: if only!
16:11:51Teldane90correctly-spelled English
16:11:55simonrvni did :)
16:12:06BigBambisimonrvn: The count rises to 1!
16:12:10Teldane90hmmm i cant speak corectly english :
16:12:40BigBambiTeldane90: Your English isn't bad, but it is more using proper words like "you", "two", "thanks" etc.
16:12:56Teldane90kay, thanks
16:13:19Teldane90at school im having a 3 ... so it isnt the best english :
16:13:19BigBambiIt gets very confusing for a) blind people who rely on screen readers b) Non-native speakers who use translation software et.
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16:14:31Teldane90ahh i understand, if anybody have the same problem and he is reading too, but he cant speak english, and he translate it, he cant translate it ... (lots of gramma misstakes :P)
16:18:36Buschelhorscht: which version are you battery benching right now?
16:19:12Horschtsoaps "latest"
16:19:20Horschtthe one, which is an older rev
16:19:31Horschtand I got 15:46h on it
16:20:04Buschelso, the bench is complete or is it still running?
16:20:11Horschtonly thing that confuses me is, that the battery_bench.txt stops at 15:46 with a battery level of 9%
16:20:16Horschtit's complete
16:20:22Horschtbut I'll run it a second time
16:20:27Horschtafter a full recharge
16:21:20Buschelwell, the benchs might be "incomplete", if the last disc acess wasn't possible due to lack of battery voltage. there might be up to 40 mins missing
16:21:34Horschtjust to verify, you know. because the text file ends at 9% still left
16:21:57Horschtwhich sounds too much, in my book
16:22:13HorschtI can still upload the battery_bench if you want
16:22:14Buschelnevertheless using the "old" svn seems to be much better :-)
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16:22:23Horschtyes, that is definatelly the case
16:22:30Buschelhorscht: yes just give me a link
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16:22:36Horschtk, just a sec
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16:22:59countrymonkeyJust checking out what's going on here.
16:23:52HorschtBuschel, here you go:
16:24:01Horschtand thank you for your patches
16:24:12Buschelok, lets see
16:25:24Horschta question about the batterybench plugin though. does it also stop benching when I enter the plugins menu (without running a plugin of course)?
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16:27:54HorschtI was just asking because ca. 30 minutes before the battery died, I entered the plugins menu with the purpose of launching the coverflow plugin. I then remembered that battery benching would stop if i'd launch it, so I refrained from starting it
16:29:02countrymonkeyYou have good english, considering english isn't your 1st language.
16:29:06HorschtBuschel, calculation back, there's at least half an hour missing in that log
16:30:06Horschtthank you, countrymonkey
16:30:34Buschelhorscht: ok, >16h effective runtime −− pretty good :) btw, afaik you use Cabbie2.0 WPS and Mp3, correct? At which bitrate and at what volume?
16:30:50countrymonkeyI know because I am learning something else. Awfully difficult. :p
16:30:53Horschtbitrate VBR V"
16:31:07HorschtV2, volume not too loud (listenable
16:31:30Buschelhorscht: do you know the volume in dB?
16:31:31Horschtsince I was using cabbie v2, it doesn't display any dB level
16:31:38Buschelahh, ok.
16:32:01Horschtbut setting should still be intact, as I didn't change it
16:32:20Buschelbtw, if you would run a test without WPS (e.g. just entering the settings menu) the runtime will even be longer
16:32:41Horschtyeah, but i like my screen to look nice :p
16:34:10countrymonkeyYou say I can go into the settings menu and get better battery life? I'm blind so don't care about wpses.
16:34:15Buschelyour choice ;)
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16:34:47Horschtyeah, 16h is still an awesome improvement
16:34:58Horschtby the way, it's all with album art displayed
16:35:04countrymonkeyHow much more life?
16:35:23Horschti didn't run it against the same stock revision, yet
16:35:23Buschelcountrymonkay: if you've got an iPod Video it will save up to several hours (when comparing no WPS to default WPS)
16:35:49countrymonkeyWell I have an ipod4g so it should be better
16:35:52Horschtbut using a higher revision with the same patch i got an improvement of 2 hours using Buschel's patch
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16:37:03Buschelcountrymonkey: what kind of format do you use?
16:37:09Horschtand with an older svn patched with Buschels build, Rockbox only falls 1.5 hours behind stock ipod firmware
16:38:06countrymonkeymp3s at 24kbps bitrate. (that is what my internet radio station puts on and I'm too cheap to buy music)
16:38:16countrymonkeyI mean my favorite station
16:38:59Horschtwow... that sounds like it would really sound horrible
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16:40:01countrymonkeyYes, but I don't want to buy music. I am surfing around for a new internet radio station that plays better quality music.
16:40:10Buschelcountrymonkey: mp3 will give around 7h runtime on a 4G iPod. maybe you should convert to a more (battery) effective codec like mpc.
16:40:40countrymonkeyIf I do mp3 to mpc will my already horrible quality music get horribler?
16:40:48Horschtmpc? never heard of that
16:41:06Buschelcountrymonkey: I never did tests at that bitrate... to painful
16:41:29countrymonkeyI only get 4h20m battery life.
16:41:56Buschelyes, thats around the unpatched svn :)
16:42:22countrymonkeyThen what is 7h with?
16:43:39Buschelwith patch #8379 (pcf03.patch) and using mp3
16:43:42BigBambiTranscoding any lossy format to another will sound worse. If you start with 24 kbps mp3, I don't even want to think about it
16:44:36Horschti think i'll stick with VBR Mp3
16:45:46Horschtsince what revision is cabbiev2 in the SVN, though?
16:46:33Horschtah, thank you
16:46:57BigBambiHorscht: as well as the other links under the svn table on the front page are useful
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17:09:43Teldane90BigBambi ??
17:10:00BigBambiTeldane90: Yes?
17:10:14Teldane90are you knowing where the font is standing ??
17:10:34Teldane90the font of the theme
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17:10:46BigBambiTeldane90: Do you mean where the font is stored?
17:11:30Teldane90hmm, i would like to have the font of zenpod2 in my version zenpod v2
17:11:49BigBambiIt is specified in the theme .cfg file in /.rockbox/themes, and is stored in /.rockbox/fonts
17:11:54Teldane90but i dont know the font, so im searching in the code ... but i doesnt found
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17:13:00BigBambiSo you need to put the relevant font in /.rockbox/fonts (or make sure it is already there), and in the cfg file in /.rockbox/themes make sure the line that starts font: points the correct font
17:13:29BigBambiTeldane90: Which font is specified in the cfg for zenpod2?
17:13:47Teldane90yers thats the problem id doesnt know ...
17:13:55Teldane90* I
17:14:30rasherTeldane90: Look in /.rockbox/themes/zenpod2.cfg
17:14:49BigBambiTeldane90: The original zip you downloaded will say in the cfg file
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17:14:57BigBambiTeldane90: Like rasher says :)
17:15:02Teldane90if i know, than i can change the font at rockbox fonts
17:15:23countrymonkeyEs wird in das Thema. Cfg-Datei in / .rockbox / Themes und wird in / .rockbox / fonts
17:15:44Teldane90da ein deutscher :) hoho countrymonkey
17:15:46LinusNcountrymonkey: english please
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17:15:57BigBambiTeldane90: It uses helvR10.fnt
17:16:08countrymonkeyDon't speak german. used a translator
17:16:11Teldane90here a german hiho countrymonkey
17:16:21Teldane90ah LautesOfflinesLachen
17:16:36BigBambiTeldane90: English please :)
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17:16:48Teldane90sorry, that was my acros ...
17:17:38countrymonkeyYes, what's that?
17:17:50Teldane90if i write a word, irc change the wort into an other :)
17:18:09countrymonkeyyou mean substitution?
17:18:26*BigBambi sees the light
17:18:30BigBambiMacros :)
17:18:30Teldane90yes something like this ... we say acros :)
17:18:42countrymonkeyThanks, petur2
17:18:42BigBambiacros isn't a word in english
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17:18:57Teldane90yes but we say it : its a name :
17:18:57BigBambiOr script, as rasher suggests
17:19:06BigBambiTeldane90: Not in English it isn't
17:19:11Teldane90yes im using [g]-script
17:19:50countrymonkeyWhat is [g]-script?
17:20:00Teldane90so if i write "thx" it will be thanks or if i write "lol" it will be LautesOfflinesLachen
17:20:44BigBambiaha - not very helpful for an English channel - lol is understood, LautesOfflinesLachen is not
17:20:51BigBambiAnyway, off topic again
17:21:00Teldane90i dont know if im allowed to sent u the link ...
17:21:05BigBambiTeldane90: The font you want is helvR10.fnt
17:21:09BigBambiTeldane90: you....
17:21:14BigBambiAnd what link?
17:21:21Teldane90this link :
17:21:28Teldane90to the gscript
17:21:51Teldane90but it is german, but u can translate the page with google or something like this into english :)
17:21:59countrymonkeyTeldane90: I can simpathise with you. I am learning another 2 languages.
17:22:01BigBambiTeldane90: OK, but lets stay on-topic
17:22:05BigBambicountrymonkey: You too
17:22:34Teldane90which languages are u speaking ??
17:22:53Teldane90im german, english, latin, litle bit italian ...
17:22:54BigBambiTeldane90: Stay on-topic please
17:23:07Teldane90okay sry :
17:23:14BigBambiThis is a logged development and support channel
17:23:40Teldane90kay i look for the font ...
17:23:51Teldane90logged ... hmm sounds not good :
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17:25:44BigBambicountrymonkey: Stop it
17:25:49BigBambiYou should know better
17:26:41Teldane90bambi no thats not the font im searching
17:27:21BigBambiTeldane90: It is the one specified for zenpod2
17:27:27Teldane90ahhh im having the right
17:27:53Teldane90but its too big ... so the "playlist" wouldnt displayed correctly
17:28:31Teldane90maybe i can use 2 fonts ??
17:28:52Teldane90one for the menu and one for the "playlist"
17:29:22PaulJamthis is not possible with the oficial build
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17:30:43Teldane90hmm kay, than i have to use the smaller one
17:31:50Teldane90kay, a last question ... it belongs to picture flow
17:32:40Teldane90with my iaudio i have to stop @ll before i can start it
17:33:18Teldane90maybe anybody can code there an killing process like in doom
17:33:21PaulJamthis is normal, the plugin uses the audio buffer.
17:33:54Teldane90so you havenot stop it manually ...
17:34:07BigBambiTeldane90: There is a limited amount of memory in the players - it can't be used by audio and pictureflow
17:34:22BigBambiTeldane90: I see what you mean, but it might be annoying if it were automatic
17:34:27BigBambiIt could ask though
17:34:37Teldane90yes thats sure, but a killingprocess like in doom will be lots of comfortable
17:35:01Teldane90i dont have contact to rockbox coders maybe you
17:35:28Teldane90i've got to one coder, but he is an hobby coder :
17:36:50Teldane90so i think he didnt know how to do it ...
17:37:26PaulJamyou could contact them via IRC :) . but for feature requests the usual procedure is to open a task on the flyspray tracker:
17:42:00Teldane90difficult page ...
17:42:16Teldane90or stupid Teldane90 :
17:44:21countrymonkeythe former
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17:57:11Teldane90if i want no back color of an icon it shuld be pink or ??
17:57:36rasherTeldane90: Could you please just use a single question-mark?
17:58:09Teldane90its my acros, im sory, but than i have to reinstall my irc ... sry
17:59:04Teldane90is it pink ??
17:59:05BigBambiTransparency is a specific shade of pink, yes
17:59:12Teldane90kay, thanks
18:00:09ShamusNYhi, does anyone know how to get album shuffle enabled?
18:00:58ShamusNYcan I paste 2 paragraphs form apple
18:01:01BigBambiTeldane90: [R=255,G=0,B=255]
18:01:03BigBambiShamusNY: No
18:01:08BigBambiShamusNY: Use pastebin
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18:01:14Teldane90yes i knowing the color
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18:01:26BigBambiShamusNY: From the database or filetree?
18:03:00BigBambiShamusNY: What has that post go to do with anything? Rockbox couldn't care less what the iPod does
18:03:12BigBambiIt runs on many more players, most of them before the iPod
18:03:33ShamusNYbut i want to get the same effect, it's explained perfectly there
18:03:44BigBambiAs for how to do it in rockbox, I was under the impression that the database will play a random album
18:03:44ShamusNYi listen to a ton of mixes
18:03:52BigBambiBut I don't use the database myself
18:03:55*BigBambi goes to check
18:04:17ShamusNYi found this
18:04:29ShamusNYwhich explains how to make a DB view
18:06:25*BigBambi can't help with the database
18:06:34PaulJamthe database doesn't automatically jump to a random album once the current one has finished. rockbox has a fuctionality to play folders in random order, but that won't help you if you use the apple filestructure.
18:06:50ShamusNYyeah im stuck with dual boot
18:06:57ShamusNYuntil i get this right
18:07:07ShamusNYi freaking LOVE the EQ
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18:36:31countrymonkeyIs there an easy way of updating a rbutil translation without qt tools? They don't seem accessible to blind software access sollutions.
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18:59:38joshn_Is it possible to run a build server on ubuntu?
18:59:56joshn_is there anything special that needs to be done?
19:00:31BigBambiOr just
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19:00:57joshn_right, but anything specific to ubuntu? Do I need to link /bin/sh to bash instead of dash?
19:01:02BigBambiah, that
19:01:08BigBambiI forgot about that
19:01:25*BigBambi points at Bagder
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19:14:18Horschtiyeah, it's on the bottom of the page
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19:32:00JohnEKI've got a bdf font which I want to convert into a fnt font. The bdf font looks fine when I look at it in fontforge, but when I convert it to fnt using convbdf, the font ends up having an extra line of pixels at the bottom of each character. Is there anybody who is knowledgable about fonts that could help me out? Thanks.
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19:47:14ComradeHazEvening gentlemen
19:47:28countrymonkeyWhat's up?
19:47:43ComradeHazI fear I am about to ask something that will result in me being flamed, so
19:47:52*ComradeHaz puts on flame retardant jacket
19:47:57krazykitwe don't flame here, so don't worry.
19:48:02countrymonkeydo it. If nobody else answers, I will.
19:48:21austrianHi! I tried compiling a plugin for my x5; it worked perfectly well in the simulator. But when I compile it for the X5 and start it there, it just hangs!
19:48:26ComradeHazTrying to get this going on my iRiver H140
19:48:57countrymonkeyDid you compile the plugin for the target or did you use the same version you used for the sim on target?
19:48:59austrianI already removed everything (!) except a rb->splash(HZ, "hi"); but it still hangs when it's started
19:49:08ComradeHazafaict I've got all the files onto the HDD using the utility and it's created teh firmware patch file for me
19:49:12austrianOf course I compiled it for the target
19:49:37countrymonkeyI was silly enough not to do that the first time I built a plugin.
19:49:42ComradeHaztrouble I seem to be having is the divice 'ignoring' my request to upgrade the firmware
19:49:49countrymonkeythought it was all interchangable.
19:50:16countrymonkeyWhat device iriver h140 or x5.
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19:50:39ComradeHazis it because it fails to see the difference between the patched version and what is alreadt installed?
19:50:46austrianDo you mean me? It's a cowon X5
19:50:51ComradeHazor me
19:50:55ComradeHazit's an H140 :D
19:51:45countrymonkeyI cannot remember. I am talking to the guy who is having plugin hanging problems.
19:51:57countrymonkeyI'm more familiar with that
19:52:13austrianThat should be me ;)
19:52:29krazykitComradeHaz, have you tried performing a manual install instead of using the rockbox utility?
19:52:42countrymonkeyLet me think.
19:52:52ComradeHazas in without the utility at all?
19:53:14countrymonkeyWhat stage does it hang at? Does it display "hi" then hang?
19:53:15ComradeHazI have tried a manual creation of the hex file
19:53:36krazykitwith fwpatcher??
19:54:00countrymonkeyComradeHaz: I know nada about irivers and fwpatcher. You should wait for somebody else.
19:54:04austrianThere's nothing left in the plugin except the declaration of a few variables, " rb = api;" and the splash message. But the message isn't shown; however I can hear the disk spin.
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19:54:55PaulJamComradeHaz: what is the exact filename of the .hex file?
19:54:57linuxstb_ComradeHaz: Why are you creating a hex file? That's the bootloader, which you shouldn't compile yourself unless you know exactly what you're doing (and can recover a bad flash).
19:54:57austrianThe backlight does not turn off and I have to hold the power switch for > 10 secs until it apruptly turns off.
19:55:44countrymonkeyGive me your e-mail, and I will send a diff. This diff allows the hello world plugin to work. Please test that.
19:55:52*linuxstb_ may be confusing two different conversations...
19:55:59PaulJamComradeHaz: i'm not sure, but i think ihp_100.hex is for the H110/H115
19:57:07linuxstb_Yes, ihp_100.hex is for the H110/H115, ihp_120.hex is for the H120/H140
19:57:20PaulJamComradeHaz: make sure you patch the firmware for the H120/H140. the filename for this device should be ihp_120.hex.
19:57:21ComradeHazhave i been a muppet?! :D
19:57:33linuxstb_austrian: You know this channel is publically logged? ;)
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19:59:43ComradeHaz'tis kinda odd
20:00:15ComradeHazI've 1.66 installed on device atm, but can;t find that version on the iRiver site anymore.
20:00:23ComradeHazIs it of any consequnce anyway?
20:00:45ComradeHaz(once rockbox has patched it?
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20:02:27PaulJamComradeHaz: for rockbox it doesn't matter what version of the original firmware you use.
20:02:41ComradeHazsuspected as much
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20:11:21PaulJamlinuxstb_: were you the one who encoded the elephantsdream sample videos?
20:12:07PaulJamdo you still know what the comandlineoptions you used were?
20:13:12PaulJam(for the 224x128 version)
20:14:31linuxstb_Not at the moment, iI'll need to find the external drive it is on...
20:16:16PaulJamit's not so important, i was just courious why the sample video has so much better performance than the videos i encoded.
20:18:27BuschelPaulJam: try to add "-qscale 6" to the command line
20:19:09linuxstb_PaulJam: You're using mpeg2enc as well?
20:20:42BuschelPaulJam: at least this was the command line for ffmpeg which did it for me
20:21:20PaulJamno, i was using mencoder but i thought the comandline might give a clue what i do differently when encodeing. or do the different encoders output very different results?
20:22:41linuxstb_I don't know why, but I found mpeg2enc produced files which decoder faster than ffmpeg/mencoder when I was first working on mpegplayer.
20:23:32PaulJamok, i ddin't expect that.
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20:30:22ComradeHazIs it possible to get the H140 to charge from USB?
20:30:52ComradeHaz(I've got it working now thanks, I was being a muppet and had grabbed the wrong firmware off the iRiver site)
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20:44:23ComradeHazplease ignore that
20:44:30ComradeHazI've found my answer
20:44:50ComradeHazsounds like I need to go to maplin for that :D
20:50:48BigBambiComradeHaz: Yeah, you need to physically alter it
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20:51:10ComradeHazthink that can wait for hdd failure :)
20:51:22BigBambialthough do a cool retractable cable with bug USB on one end, and mini usb + H100 charging plug on the other
20:51:42BigBambiComradeHaz: And the ship to UK (where I guess you are from given the talk of Maplin)
20:52:22ComradeHazreally want it for use in car
20:52:43ComradeHazgot a 5v output thing from fag lighter
20:52:44BigBambiWell, there are car chargers, but you always have to use the power socket
20:52:52BigBambiYeah, tis a shame
20:53:00ComradeHazdaft really
20:53:06ComradeHazwonder wtf they were thinking
20:53:12ComradeHazor maybe they just weren't :D
20:54:59BigBambiI can forgive them that (plus the lack of RTC) for everything else they put in - optical + line in and out, radio, recording, lcd remote, etc. etc.
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21:02:58krazykitTeldane90|wech, please don't use away scripts like that
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21:06:29ComradeHazthat's true
21:06:33Buschelsoap: could you make a bench with your iPod and the old svn + patch?
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21:14:56BigBambiBuschel: I was slightly confused by the flyspray task - which was the latest E200 patch - pp5020-test-01.patch?
21:15:45BuschelBigBambi: the latest including _all_ optimization for all targets is pcf-03
21:16:06Buschelno prbolem
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21:19:02BuschelAll those "in between" patches are test patches which always contain the former versions + some new thing (e.g. pcf settings) to test. I'll do a new major version as soon as the results show no issues and −− of course −− some kind of progress in runtime
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21:35:17ChristopHello. I would like to have write permission in the Rockbox Wiki. My user name is Christopher.Williams.
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21:36:45BigBambiChristop: Done
21:37:39ChristopActually my user name is ChristopherWilliams (without the period), but you found me anyway. Thanks!
21:37:48BigBambino problem
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22:23:35thgzHave done some testing of the voice generation script of cygwin...
22:24:11thgzThe .voice file is not compiled right when using sapi5 as TTS, but when using Espeak things are working
22:26:18thgzThis has no matters to me because I haven't yet a Finnish sapi5 voice, just wanted to mention
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22:29:11thgz*don't have
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22:29:39amiconnIf you don't have a finnish sapi5 voice and select building a finnish voice with sapi5, it will not work
22:29:45amiconnThat's expected behaviour
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22:30:48joshn_where can I get the script for a build server?
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22:31:38Bagderrenamed to with the proper execute permissions
22:31:43thgzAmiconn: Meant to say before that I have Finnish sapi5 voice (in fact two), but don't use them at all.
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22:33:53joshn_what do I need to do to make the build script work on ubuntu?
22:34:01joshn_since sh is linked to dash instead of bash?
22:34:10amiconnI've built dozens of sapi5 voice files successfully. I'm just reconfiguring to built current files
22:34:24amiconn(has been a while since I built my last bunch)
22:34:25Bagderjoshn_: I'm not sure that's a problem with that version of
22:35:01Bagderrasher: didn't your server use dash?
22:35:22*bluebrother hears the dreaded "dash" ...
22:35:23thgzAmiconn: I had compiled some sapi5 voices successfully last year
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22:36:25thgzIn some build or RB it sopped accidentally working...
22:39:38joshn_Badger: can I get the rbclient ssh key from you?
22:39:58Bagderit's available from here =>
22:40:25Bagdershould be the ~rbclient/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file
22:41:24Bagder91.191.140.131 is the source IP of the build master that'll login as rbclient
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22:42:44joshn_is there a way that I can test to make sure that the environment is set up correctly?
22:43:11joshn_i.e. everything will build correctly?
22:44:06Bagderyou can run the script as rbclient in its home dir, but you need to be careful to pass in the correct arguments...
22:44:32Bagder./ "20080131T173511Z" "build-h120:iriver H120 - Normal:rockbox.iriver:h120\\n\\n"
22:44:37Bagder... I think
22:45:15Bagderccache, sdl, zip installed?
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22:48:45amiconnthgz: Well, sapi5 voice building is working perfectly here....
22:48:57*amiconn just built a german sapi5 voice for his X5
22:50:16*amiconn will now build a fresh set of german & english voices for all his targets
22:50:56joshn_should be, yes
22:51:13thgzAmiconn: Strange..
22:52:00joshn_Badger: a build (using the line you gave me) takes 1m12s. Is that fast enough to be useful?
22:52:14Bagderis indeed!
22:52:28joshn_how do I "register" the host?
22:52:35Bagderit'll be even faster then when ccache kicks in more
22:52:38joshn_got it
22:52:42amiconnthgz: What effect are you observing? Did you try calling 'make voice V=1' ?
22:52:54Bagdertell me your host name (and port number) and we're game
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22:53:44amiconn(V=1 means verbose)
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22:55:57Bagderjoshn_: your host is now added
22:56:05Bagdernow we just need a commit to see it get to work
22:57:58thgzI tried "make voice" and "V=1 make voice"
22:58:46thgzV=1 make voice made out better results (90-600 kb english.voice) but normal make voice made out a file which is about 10 kb in size...
22:59:47amiconn'make voice V=1', not the V=1 in front of the command
22:59:53amiconnThat won't work properly
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23:00:47amiconnAnd it should not give different reults, but output more messages in order to track down the problem
23:03:05thgzWell I try running make voice v=1
23:03:14amiconnV not v
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23:04:31thgzyes V
23:06:26thgz"mp3 file ./VOICE_DIR.mp3 not found!rnmp3 file ./VOICE_EXT_MPA.mp3 not found!"
23:06:37thgzin the end
23:06:47thgzTons of this kind of errors...
23:07:26amiconnAre you building in a dir which has spaces in it spath?
23:07:48amiconn*in its path
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23:10:39amiconnAlso, what target are you building for? Did you try reconfiguring and 'make clean' (or alternatively, to use a fresh directory)?
23:11:11thgzMy target is SAnsa e200
23:11:13amiconnAnd finally, what's the status of your source tree? Are you checking out from svn?
23:11:47thgzWhen I run make clean I get better results but not fully working file... Haven't tried reconfiguring yet
23:12:05thgzI have the latest sources from SVN
23:15:51thgzI got same results.
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23:17:48amiconnThat's really odd...
23:18:55thgzMay it affect that I have multiple voices installed for the same language...
23:19:04thgzDont believe that matters
23:19:15amiconnNo it doesn't
23:19:43amiconnThe script will use the first matching, unless you specify the voice to use in the sapi options
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23:24:13idmagiKanyone able to help me with initializing music onto rockbox? i just installed it
23:24:15thgzLooked the logs... SEems that the script can speak for example lang_bool_yes and rbenc can encode it successfully, but it sill can't be found... I don't understand
23:25:05PaulJamidmagiK: i think most people just drag and drop the music on the player.
23:25:11thgzidmagiK: Just put the files where you want, for example the root of your player. If you are using IPod you don't need to use ITunes...
23:25:29idmagiKoh, so i just move the directory?
23:26:00thgzIdmagiK: Well if you have a directory where you have your musics, just move it to the player
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23:27:07idmagiKwell, i mean my music is already on the player
23:27:40idmagiKbut now, i don't know how to get it
23:27:46thgzWhat player do you have? If other than IPod you should see your music straight in the "files" screeen
23:27:54idmagiKsansa c240
23:27:55PaulJamdepending on what player you have, you may want to read about the database feature in the manual
23:28:23idmagiKi did, it didn't help
23:28:46thgzIf you want to browse your music by artist, album etc open up database and choose initialize
23:28:53idmagiKi follow instructions and wait after initializing the database, it prints press prev to return
23:28:59idmagiKbut it never does it
23:29:22idmagiKor after checking the debug, it says its initialized but not ready and progress at -1%
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23:30:47thgzMaybe no need to ask but have you rebooted the Sansa?
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23:31:33thgzWhat exactly happens when you open daabase?
23:31:45idmagiKlets see, ill reboot it again
23:31:54idmagiKso it says its not ready, to initialize
23:32:03idmagiKso i select it
23:32:08idmagiKand then it says
23:32:25idmagiKBuilding database... (some number, mine is 258) found (PREV to return)
23:32:51BigBambiidmagiK: Try rebooting twice after it says that
23:33:02saratogahas there been any discussion about GSOC2008 projects yet?
23:33:18Bagdersaratoga: there's a wiki page at least
23:33:25BigBambiidmagiK: I seem to remember something about it being necessary
23:33:43PaulJamidmagiK: does the number increase or is it stuck at 258?
23:33:46IzzehOI had a similar issue on my iPod 5G.. I just put it into disk mode and recopied over the rockbox folder and it worked fine...
23:34:10idmagiKit increases to 258 and stays there
23:34:20idmagiKi rebooted it twice and then it just asks me to initialize it again
23:34:45BigBambiOh, 258 isn't all?
23:34:52idmagiKi think 258 should be all
23:34:55BigBambiDo you have anything like embedded album art in your tags
23:35:09idmagiKi don't think so
23:35:17PaulJamthen the database initialisation seems to hang. it usually should return to the main menu once it finishes.
23:35:54saratogaBagder: yeah I wrote half the ideas on there :)
23:36:05saratogawhen do the applications to google go out?
23:36:37BagderI don't know
23:36:45BigBambiidmagiK: Try deleting all .tcd files in the ./rockbox folder then retry
23:37:41saratogarockbox has to apply sooner then the students right?
23:38:16rasherBagder: That was the vmware buildserver - I'm running natively now (and not using dash)
23:38:45amiconnthgz: I just got a similar effect (.voice file being only 5K) when building my first english.voice today. Turned out that some gibberish sneaked into my Makefile
23:39:31amiconnIf you accidentally press some cursor buttons when the script asks for sapi options or encoder options, this can obviously happen...
23:39:40rasherBagder: The problem was setting the path at the bottom of .bashrc, which has if [ -z "$PS1" ]; then; exit; fi on Debian
23:40:05thgzAmiconn: Didn't press any cursor buttons other than enter
23:40:23idmagiKuhhh, how come i can't see the rockbox folder anymore
23:41:56BigBambiwhat OS?
23:42:22BigBambiI don't know then
23:42:44BigBambifolders beginning with a full stop are hidden on *nix but not windows
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23:43:14pocketninjahey guys
23:43:28pocketninjacan anyone here answer a question for me
23:43:39rasherBigBambi: Isn't the hidden attribute set on the .rockbox dir? Or am I imagining things?
23:43:49BigBambirasher: I didn't think so
23:43:52idmagiKnvm, i had to restart it in the default firmware
23:43:53BigBambiBut maybe :)
23:43:55idmagiKand then change it to ums
23:43:57amiconnThe hidden attribute is not set
23:44:08pocketninjacan anyone hear me?
23:44:16rasherpocketninja: you haven't asked anything yet
23:44:21idmagiKi don't see .tcd files
23:44:23amiconnBut rockbox handles both the hidden attribute and .dotdirs/.dotfiles as hidden, unless the view is set to all
23:44:25pocketninjao lol
23:44:36rasheramiconn: Yeah, I was thinking of Windows
23:44:49BigBambiidmagiK: I'm stumped then I'm afraid
23:44:54pocketninjado you know if anyone is porting rockbox to the samsung yp-p2
23:45:12BigBambipocketninja: I belive there is a thread on it in the new ports forum
23:45:24pocketninjao ok thank you ;)
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23:47:37idmagiKoh yeah, for some reason, i do have some album art
23:48:24IzzehOim having trouble compiling latest svn in cygwin - keeps giving me errors in action.c or something... any quick way to remove all applied patches so i can try a clean compile?
23:49:14thgzAmiconn: More testing done: I didn't press any cursor keys and stayed on the cygwin window, output file is 10 k.
23:49:30IzzehOforum thread has about 70 suggestions but no one every summarizes which does the job best :S
23:49:50rasherthgz: enter "V=1 make voice" as your command - hopefully that should give some useful debug output
23:50:03BigBambiIzzehO: svn revert -R .
23:50:14BigBambidon't forget the full stop at the end
23:50:28thgzIzzeH: Backup your builds, remove the whole directory where you downloaded rockbox and download it again from svn
23:50:34thgzThat's the way I use
23:50:55idmagiKBigBambi, i got it working but it's strange
23:51:16idmagiKwhen i do ums mode or whatever its called, i see transparent folders labeled music, record, fm, etc.
23:51:16IzzehONo point backing up my build I guess.. haven't been able to compile in about 2 months...
23:51:27idmagiKalong with my rockbox folder
23:51:33BigBambiidmagiK: Yep
23:51:41idmagiKso i import music into that folder?
23:51:46BigBambiThey are part of the Sansa firmware
23:51:49BigBambiI wouldn't
23:51:50idmagiKthen what happened to the folder from my original firmware
23:51:56idmagiKi did
23:51:59idmagiKand then that music worked
23:52:11BigBambiThe Sansa OF hides the music folder everytime the OF is booted
23:52:16BigBambiWhich is annoying for rockbox
23:52:29BigBambiIf you want to use the file tree
23:52:36IzzehOooh revert fixed action.c - now to figure out which patch is messing it up...
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23:53:09thgzPocketninja: Hello again
23:53:12BigBambiidmagiK: Make another folder called Audio, or whatever you want and put it in there, then both the OF, rockbox file tree and database should see it without having to muck around
23:53:19BigBambiBut if you have it working, :)
23:53:38pocketninjacan everyone hear me or just you?
23:53:56IzzehOyeah we can hear ya
23:54:04pocketninjalol ok
23:54:06BigBambiEveryone, but yet again you haven't asked a question
23:54:17Bagderpocketninja: for a new port you need to get things going yourself, you own the device
23:54:19rasherpocketninja: do you honestly expect 150 people to say "hi" to you?
23:54:24pocketninjayes i do
23:54:27BigBambipocketninja: Please read before speaking:
23:54:42pocketninjai do own the device
23:54:52Bagderthere's no magic porting team that will come to rescue
23:55:08thgzPocketninja: No you can't really *wink*
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23:56:31IzzehOHas the problems with disk mode been fixed yet?
23:56:52BigBambiWhich problem?
23:57:38pocketninjayea i know i actually wanted to know if someone could tell me what knowledge i need to help a team port rockbox to the p2
23:57:57BigBambipocketninja: See the NewPorts page on the wiki
23:58:09pocketninjai already did
23:58:15IzzehOIt wouldn't go into disc mode.. rather just charge from USB - Had to boot into original firmware every time... it was listed on the rockbox site as a problem but I can't seem to find if it's been solved yet or not..
23:58:32BigBambiIzzehO: On the iPods rockbox has never had a diskmode
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23:58:55BigBambiIt used to reboot automatically to apple's diskmode

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