| 00:00:08 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Ah, fair interpretation. It is a good option for users if it works, though since we don't support playlists yet. ;) |
| 00:00:22 | linuxstb_ | Chained Ogg files is another example, and comparable to concatenated mpeg files. |
| 00:00:31 | webguest27 | what do you mean will it join both of the videos together? |
| 00:01:36 | Llorean | I guess I should just test if rockbox handles it |
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| 00:02:58 | linuxstb_ | jhMikeS should be able to tell us, but I would guess that at the very least seeking and the displayed runtime will be broken. |
| 00:03:11 | Llorean | Seems likely |
| 00:03:17 | Llorean | Well, lemme just download the smallest ED and check |
| 00:04:01 | linuxstb_ | webguest27: I think the answer is that you can't easily join two video files together... |
| 00:04:46 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Well if you cat them, then use ffmpeg -i infile -acodec copy -vcodec copy outfile.mpeg, it should result in just re-containering the combined streams in one file, if what i've heard is correct. |
| 00:04:56 | Llorean | Whether that's "easy" depends on the user, I guess |
| 00:05:30 | PaulJam | if you want i can paste the batch file i'm using with mencoder somewhere, it joins the videos if you drop multiple files on it. |
| 00:05:46 | webguest27 | yeah but the thing is i don't know how to do that. can you guys please help me out on how to join them together? |
| 00:06:07 | webguest27 | i use winff converter will that do it? |
| 00:06:48 | Llorean | No, winff won't do it. |
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| 00:08:11 | PaulJam | webguest27: you could try this batch file: http://pastebin.ca/893193 but you'll need to adjust some variables and the paths in the upper part of the file. |
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| 00:10:58 | webguest27 | thank you. :) |
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| 00:12:44 | PaulJam | webguest27: but i think it only works this way when the inputfiles have the same resolution. |
| 00:12:48 | Llorean | Apparently rockbox handles concatenated mpeg2 files *very* gracefully |
| 00:12:58 | Llorean | It seeks and plays fine within the first part, and ignores any extra ones. |
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| 00:14:42 | webguest27 | i just wan to join like 4 videos together that are already converter to the mpeg format rockbox reads. |
| 00:16:53 | dionoea | webguest27: something like this would work: vlc vid1 vid2 vid3 vid4 −−sout-keep −−sout "#std{access=file,mux=ps,dst=videoall.mpg}" |
| 00:17:25 | dionoea | of course #videolan would be a more appropriate channel to discuss VLC usage than here |
| 00:17:30 | webguest27 | okok thank you! :) Bye |
| 00:17:41 | dionoea | (and I'm sure that other tools exist that can merge videos) |
| 00:17:57 | PaulJam | webguest27: if they are already encoded for rockbox you could try this batch file: http://pastebin.ca/893203 (saves the transcoding). |
| 00:18:22 | webguest27 | oh ok thank you! :) :) :) |
| 00:18:33 | * | dionoea notes that his solution doesn't transcode anything ... just remuxing |
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| 00:20:32 | webguest27 | >PaulJam: how to i save that batch file? |
| 00:21:20 | PaulJam | save it as a normal text file with the extension .bat |
| 00:21:57 | webguest27 | ok thank you. |
| 00:24:21 | webguest27 | if i'm supposed to drag and drop the videos on it it doesn't work... |
| 00:27:31 | PaulJam | have you adjusted th path to the mencoder.exe? (i feel like this gets a little bit offtopic, maybe we should continue via PM) |
| 00:27:57 | webguest27 | how to i use that batch file? what do i name it? |
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| 00:29:00 | jhMikeS | Simple concatenating of files won't work. It wouldn't make sense anyway |
| 00:29:02 | webguest27 | i'm really sorry i just don't know how to do this stuff. |
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| 00:32:17 | PaulJam | webguest27: it seems the batch file does indeed not work, sorry. i thought it used to work once. try the solution dionoea suggested. |
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| 00:34:05 | webguest27 | ok thank you i have to go now bye! :) |
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| 00:36:30 | jhMikeS | Llorean: Think concatenation has to do with the fact that two concatenated elementary streams should produce a legal stream. This makes no sense in the PES layer at all. |
| 00:39:01 | jhMikeS | I can't really say "at all" but forcing it to support that would make loading slow (since the whole file would need scanning to determine length) and add some complication. |
| 00:44:16 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Alright. That's fine. |
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| 01:16:43 | tessarakt | ok, I'm nearly finished reading http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.75 once |
| 01:17:22 | tessarakt | but as I know nothing about embedded development there's little chance I can be of help |
| 01:17:32 | tessarakt | but the progress is indeed quite amazing |
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| 01:33:53 | bughunter2 | can anyone recommend a good music player with 8gb or (preferably) more memory ? one that runs rockbox would be even better |
| 01:34:39 | scorche|w | there are plenty of good ones...what sort of features do you want? |
| 01:35:33 | bughunter2 | just mp3 (wma or ogg is not required) support actually, and also preferable is having hte player recognized as a "removable disk" under windows/linux |
| 01:36:00 | bughunter2 | i forgot the real name, "universal storage class" device or something :) |
| 01:36:19 | scorche|w | still doesnt narrow it down any :) |
| 01:36:36 | bughunter2 | hmm, what else could i want? gapless playback would be good to have |
| 01:36:46 | bughunter2 | battery life > 6hours |
| 01:37:03 | scorche|w | these are features that rockbox has on almost all of its targets |
| 01:37:09 | advlaptop2019 | bughunter2, how about the e280v1 or d2 (still working one port) |
| 01:37:22 | bughunter2 | d2? |
| 01:37:38 | bughunter2 | i don't like the e280, the navigation etc with the wheel ... |
| 01:37:41 | bughunter2 | (same as with ipods btw) |
| 01:38:16 | advlaptop2019 | bughunter2, the cowon iaudio d2.. a touchscreen |
| 01:38:20 | scorche|w | i wouldnt recommend grabbing a device while the port is still in progress quite yet... |
| 01:38:35 | bughunter2 | if the original firmware is at least usable i'm fine with it |
| 01:38:57 | scorche|w | then it is offtopic for this channel |
| 01:39:23 | bughunter2 | well, i do prefer a player that rockbox supports |
| 01:39:36 | bughunter2 | i bought a creative zen 8gb recently (before i had this iriver h340, returned it several times to iriver because of a broken battery) |
| 01:39:43 | bughunter2 | and it already is broken, it won't turn on |
| 01:40:17 | linuxstb | scorche|w: If you wait until a port is finished to buy hardware, you may be too late... |
| 01:41:04 | Psyco | any chance i could get write permission to upload my WPS to the twiki? |
| 01:41:29 | linuxstb | Sure, if you say what your twiki username is. |
| 01:41:37 | scorche|w | have we gotten a "ladies and gentlemen" from the d2 yet? |
| 01:41:38 | Psyco | PhilipMourdjis |
| 01:42:30 | linuxstb | Psyco: Done. |
| 01:42:49 | linuxstb | scorche|w: It's nowhere near that stage yet... |
| 01:43:06 | linuxstb | (but it seems to be progressing fast) |
| 01:43:19 | scorche|w | linuxstb: then i still wouldnt recommend it for a non-dev... |
| 01:43:31 | * | scorche|w shrugs |
| 01:43:41 | bughunter2 | but i am a dev |
| 01:43:43 | Psyco | thanks |
| 01:43:54 | linuxstb | Both devs and non-devs have drawers to store players in... |
| 01:44:18 | * | scorche|w wonders how big linuxstb's drawer has gotten :) |
| 01:44:30 | * | linuxstb is reminded he is about 3 months late going to the post office... |
| 01:44:38 | scorche|w | something like that |
| 01:44:57 | scorche|w | i still dont have the time yet anyway =/ |
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| 01:51:19 | bughunter2 | how about the archos 204? will rockbox work on it? |
| 01:52:03 | scorche|w | the players that rockbox runs on are listed on the front page |
| 01:53:15 | bughunter2 | i know that, just wondering if somebody knows anything about if it'd be easy to port it actually |
| 01:53:45 | scorche|w | well, you asked if rockbox will work...if it isnt on the front page, it wont work :) |
| 01:54:02 | bughunter2 | true that :P |
| 01:54:13 | scorche|w | you cna look for information on port attempts in the new ports section of the forum and in the wiki |
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| 01:55:32 | bughunter2 | the problem is that the players rockbox supports are "gone", i can't find them anywhere in my country |
| 01:55:41 | bughunter2 | well, i mean the big harddisk players |
| 01:55:50 | scorche|w | not on ebay? |
| 01:55:50 | bughunter2 | like the older archos |
| 01:56:07 | bughunter2 | i don't like buying from ebay, what if the device is broken after a month of usage :/ |
| 01:56:51 | scorche|w | ebay is your main option...it is where a lot of rockboxers get their devices from |
| 01:57:17 | bughunter2 | hmm |
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| 01:59:08 | bughunter2 | scorche|w: so, and then (if i'd buy one) just hope the device works? :P |
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| 01:59:29 | bughunter2 | my new creative zen, stopped working after 3 weeks of usage |
| 01:59:39 | bughunter2 | my older iriver h340se, stopped working several times :P |
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| 02:00:07 | bughunter2 | i kinda lost faith in trusting these devices :P |
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| 02:03:45 | PaulJam | if your h300's only problem is the battery i would rather replace that and use the H300 with rockbox. |
| 02:04:45 | bughunter2 | it's harddisk is also broken :( |
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| 02:08:13 | PaulJam | then replace that too, you have to take it out to replace the battery anyway. i think the MK4004/6GAH drives aren't that expensive. |
| 02:09:25 | bughunter2 | hmm, is that really my only option? |
| 02:11:30 | PaulJam | no, but i thought it would be a pity to not use the h300 if it is easy fixable (assuming the HD and battery are the only broken parts). it is a very nice player with rockbox. |
| 02:12:21 | bughunter2 | i know it's a nice player with rockbox :( |
| 02:12:22 | bughunter2 | :P |
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| 02:14:33 | countrymonkey | any news on the Arabic translation? |
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| 02:23:59 | bughunter2 | bedtime, goodnite :) |
| 02:27:49 | avh22 | Hi, could someone give me write permission for the wiki? My username is AlexVanHeuvelen |
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| 05:05:35 | cool_walking_ | It sort of breaks SomePage#anchor links, in Firefox and IE6 at least, because you end up nowhere near the anchor. |
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| 07:27:55 | azn | can someone help me with rockboy |
| 07:28:49 | cool_walking_ | azn: Just ask your question and if someone knows, they'll answer. |
| 07:29:04 | azn | where do i put the file |
| 07:29:22 | cool_walking_ | The gameboy rom? Anywhere you want. |
| 07:29:22 | azn | i have a ".gbc" file but where do i put it |
| 07:29:27 | scorche | anywhere you want (although i wouldnt suggest inside the .rockbox folder) |
| 07:29:35 | azn | ? |
| 07:29:49 | azn | i thought every thing goes in the .rockbox folder |
| 07:29:53 | cool_walking_ | No |
| 07:29:55 | Horschti | no |
| 07:30:00 | scorche | where did you get that idea? |
| 07:30:06 | azn | i put it in the games folder then it wasn't there |
| 07:30:13 | azn | when i checked |
| 07:30:19 | scorche | "games folder"? |
| 07:30:31 | azn | then i changed my settings to view all files |
| 07:30:33 | azn | game |
| 07:30:37 | azn | under plugins |
| 07:30:47 | scorche | what told you to put it there? |
| 07:30:56 | Horschti | i think .gbc is not supported by rockboy? |
| 07:31:00 | azn | somebody on the forums |
| 07:31:01 | scorche | sure it is |
| 07:31:07 | cool_walking_ | If you put it there, it will not appear under the "Plugins" menu in Rockbox. |
| 07:31:12 | azn | o |
| 07:31:14 | cool_walking_ | You have to find it through the "Files" area. |
| 07:31:14 | azn | then where |
| 07:31:15 | scorche | azn: where?...can you link me? |
| 07:31:42 | Horschti | azn, put it anywhere and use the file browser to run it |
| 07:31:45 | cool_walking_ | .gbc _is_ supported by Rockboy. |
| 07:32:15 | cool_walking_ | Just as if it were a music file, just "play" it. |
| 07:32:30 | azn | let me try that |
| 07:32:51 | azn | could i put it in the wps folder |
| 07:32:59 | cool_walking_ | Yes, but why? |
| 07:33:02 | scorche | why are you still trying to put it in those folders? |
| 07:33:24 | azn | how do i put it into the playlist |
| 07:33:30 | cool_walking_ | What??? |
| 07:33:45 | scorche | azn: please read the manual...it will explain what to do |
| 07:34:03 | azn | dude...im an idiot |
| 07:34:10 | azn | the manual didn't tell me anything |
| 07:34:20 | azn | it just said it won't appear in the plugins |
| 07:34:34 | scorche | odd...it certainly shows me the answer |
| 07:34:44 | cool_walking_ | It will appear under "Files", just like any other file. |
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| 07:37:55 | azn | it works on the nano right |
| 07:38:04 | scorche | yes |
| 07:38:17 | scorche | as i said, it says quite plainly in the manual what you need to do |
| 07:38:27 | scorche | have a look at chapter 10 |
| 07:38:59 | azn | it says plugin return error |
| 07:39:12 | scorche | eh? |
| 07:39:26 | azn | when i open it |
| 07:39:39 | scorche | did you look in the manual to see what to do as i said? |
| 07:40:18 | azn | ch 10 where |
| 07:40:21 | azn | im in the manual |
| 07:40:23 | azn | online |
| 07:40:32 | scorche | read.. |
| 07:42:02 | azn | .cfg? |
| 07:42:19 | Horschti | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1800009.3.4 |
| 07:42:29 | Horschti | linked for your convinience |
| 07:43:19 | azn | thats ch. 9 |
| 07:43:54 | azn | but where is the filebrowser |
| 07:43:59 | azn | that is what i don't understand |
| 07:44:02 | scorche | sorry...i was looking in a different manual |
| 07:44:08 | scorche | you do want chapter 9 |
| 07:44:20 | Horschti | in the main menu |
| 07:44:22 | cool_walking_ | The file browser is the "Files" entry in the main menu. |
| 07:46:34 | azn | so just drop the file into the ipod |
| 07:47:28 | Horschti | yes, that's what we have been telling you |
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| 07:47:46 | azn | i got it in but when i load the file i get a yellowscreen |
| 07:47:56 | azn | when i open it |
| 07:49:26 | azn | so what do i do |
| 07:50:39 | cool_walking_ | Try another rom. |
| 07:54:03 | azn | finally i got |
| 07:54:04 | azn | it |
| 07:55:04 | azn | thanks guys |
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| 08:45:33 | Slasheri | Nico_P: hi, it should be obvious why the cuesheet code crashes without a slash. strcat(buffer, NULL); causes a segfault |
| 08:47:47 | amiconn | Many bugs are obvious once you tracked down the real cause... |
| 08:47:48 | Slasheri | ah, never mind. you didn't mean that :) |
| 08:48:33 | amiconn | E.g. I know now why the peakmeter misbehaves as soon as more than one peakmeter is drawn at the same time. It has nothing to do with the remote lcd being special or so |
| 08:49:05 | amiconn | It's just that peak_meter_draw() is stateful - it uses 3 static variables |
| 08:49:38 | amiconn | Looks like that peakmeter rewrite is really overdue now :/ |
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| 08:54:46 | eulero | hi all |
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| 08:55:36 | eulero | may i ask for a doubt ? |
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| 09:14:28 | markun | eulero: what do you mean? |
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| 09:30:49 | eulero | i would like to know if ipod classic is a 5.5G |
| 09:31:09 | LinusN | eulero: no, it isn't |
| 09:31:28 | eulero | than, no support for ipod classic ? |
| 09:31:29 | LinusN | the classic is an entirely different beast, and rockbox does not run on it |
| 09:31:50 | eulero | :( |
| 09:32:26 | LinusN | yes, that sucks |
| 09:32:46 | eulero | what a pity .... i had a nano2G .... bought Classic thinking to mod .... |
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| 09:33:09 | eulero | now i have two unmodding ipod .... |
| 09:33:12 | eulero | damn .... |
| 09:34:04 | LinusN | that sucks even more :-( |
| 09:34:20 | eulero | neither volume uncap is possible on classic ? |
| 09:35:26 | LinusN | i have no idea |
| 09:35:43 | eulero | tnx |
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| 09:47:09 | pondlife | "Classic" is such a misleading name... |
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| 09:49:37 | LinusN | pondlife: indeed |
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| 10:00:03 | linuxstb_ | In what way? Taken in the context of the Touch and iPhone, I think "classic" is a good description of that ipod - it's the classic design (from a user's POV) |
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| 10:03:22 | Nico_P | Slasheri: what I meant was that the func shouldn't be given a filename without a slash, but it happens |
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| 10:13:26 | pondlife | Nico_P: Any ideas about the resume-on-startup issue? |
| 10:13:38 | pondlife | Or shall I just start hacking away? |
| 10:13:44 | Nico_P | pondlife: could you remind me the FS number? |
| 10:14:18 | pondlife | 8511 |
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| 10:15:04 | pondlife | I suspect this may be the easiest one of the current playback issues to get a handle on. And hopefully also fix the weird track skipping on buffering? |
| 10:15:23 | pondlife | i.e. I stick with my "one problem, many symptoms" diagnosis ;) |
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| 10:28:15 | Nico_P | pondlife: I must've overlooked some side effects in my latest bug fixes in playback.c |
| 10:28:45 | pondlife | I suspect this one's ages old - probably when you fixed the transition point |
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| 10:32:37 | pondlife | It may be that the offset/index passed into some playback routines is still the "codec" position, not the "WPS" one |
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| 10:33:13 | pondlife | I'm not too sure, though ;) |
| 10:33:19 | pixelma | could 8520 be related? |
| 10:38:59 | amiconn | petur: seen this morning's log (starting 08:48)? |
| 10:40:26 | petur | no, been pretty busy here at work. Will have a peek |
| 10:41:10 | petur | nice find |
| 10:41:41 | Nico_P | pixelma: possibly |
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| 10:56:19 | Nico_P | pondlife: what I find odd os that people report that the problem seems to have started at ~r16100, but the last playback.c change was r16039 |
| 10:56:26 | Nico_P | s/os/is |
| 10:58:10 | pondlife | Maybe a race condition now shown up by the spinlock changes? |
| 10:59:53 | Nico_P | maybe |
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| 11:00:46 | * | Nico_P is really feeling the lack of a target |
| 11:00:50 | pixelma | my impression is that it is a timing issue too |
| 11:01:00 | Nico_P | LinusN: ping |
| 11:01:06 | LinusN | pong |
| 11:01:51 | Nico_P | LinusN: would you allow amiconnto send me your ipod video for testing purposes? |
| 11:01:58 | LinusN | sure |
| 11:03:26 | Nico_P | thanks you :) |
| 11:03:44 | Nico_P | should help me get into real debugging |
| 11:05:07 | pixelma | Nico_P: but you have to promise to not go skating with it ;) |
| 11:05:28 | pondlife | skating or skiing? |
| 11:05:29 | Nico_P | hehe, I think I've learnt the lesson :) |
| 11:05:41 | Nico_P | I won't be doing any of those any time soon anyway |
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| 11:05:54 | LinusN | Nico_P: you lost a device? |
| 11:06:44 | Nico_P | LinusN: I damaged my F's HD in a rather stupid iceskating accident |
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| 11:24:02 | GodEater | anyone else interested in this : http://godeater.cream.org/prompt.png ? |
| 11:24:23 | GodEater | I should add it works for svn repositories too, and adds the current revision to the branch display too |
| 11:25:30 | LinusN | cool |
| 11:25:55 | GodEater | http://godeater.cream.org/fancy_bash_prompt.sh |
| 11:26:09 | GodEater | I was wondering if I should host it in the wiki somewhere |
| 11:26:11 | GodEater | but not sure where |
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| 11:26:59 | GodEater | oh, and it also uses different colours when you're logged in as root, to hilight the fact that you should double check your commands before you run them ;) |
| 11:27:44 | Shaid | why not add an extra line as root saying "Don't do anything stupid. Yes, I'm talking to YOU." |
| 11:29:20 | pondlife | Nico_P: I have a spare 40GB HD, any use to you? |
| 11:29:45 | Nico_P | pondlife: sure |
| 11:29:58 | pondlife | You have an F40, not an F20 ? |
| 11:30:05 | pondlife | have/had, whatever |
| 11:30:08 | Nico_P | yes, it's an F40 |
| 11:30:20 | pondlife | OK, mail me where to send the drive.. |
| 11:30:59 | GodEater | Shaid: I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader ;) |
| 11:32:02 | * | GodEater just noticed his screenshot is pointing to the wrong prompt with the checked out "gigabeats" branch =/ |
| 11:32:10 | pondlife | It'll be cheap - the cost is only one completely fixed playback engine ;) |
| 11:32:18 | pondlife | ^ Nico_P |
| 11:32:43 | Nico_P | hehe |
| 11:35:01 | GodEater | pondlife: you're an evil evil man |
| 11:36:14 | pondlife | I think it's a fair deal |
| 11:36:59 | GodEater | you've just basically said to Nico, "it's yours for the price of an eternity of sleepless nights, and a full head of grey hair" |
| 11:37:19 | pondlife | haha, he's probably half way there anyway |
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| 11:37:44 | Nico_P | indeed. sleepless nights but no grey hair yet :) |
| 11:37:54 | pondlife | I was enjoying a sleepless night when I first thought up the buffering API |
| 11:38:08 | pondlife | Bad bad pondlife |
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| 11:38:32 | pondlife | I was thinking it would never actually be written, but Nico_P made it happen |
| 11:38:50 | pondlife | And now we can at least maintain playback.c |
| 11:39:16 | pondlife | Just need to fix up the remaining bugs, and optimise the buffering some more I think. |
| 11:39:48 | markun | *just* |
| 11:39:52 | pondlife | ;) |
| 11:46:21 | GodEater | I like that you keep saying "we" :) |
| 11:46:51 | pondlife | I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave yesterday. |
| 11:46:54 | pondlife | And GodEater too |
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| 11:47:47 | GodEater | :P |
| 11:47:52 | pondlife | Seriously, I'd love to do some more fixage, but I really don't have the time.. Wait until summer if you want |
| 11:48:20 | GodEater | no no, I enjoy needling you too much |
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| 12:18:55 | SSnake | hello everyone |
| 12:19:57 | SSnake | please could anyone help me on a weird error? |
| 12:20:22 | SSnake | i'm trying to compile something written by me |
| 12:20:30 | LinusN | shoot |
| 12:20:39 | SSnake | thanks linux |
| 12:20:40 | SSnake | so |
| 12:20:47 | SSnake | lds error |
| 12:20:51 | SSnake | (linek) |
| 12:20:54 | SSnake | (linker) |
| 12:21:10 | SSnake | the error is |
| 12:21:17 | SSnake | "non constant expression for origin" |
| 12:21:26 | SSnake | i'm writeing a plugin |
| 12:22:04 | SSnake | tried to copy / paste hello word.c and the results are the same |
| 12:22:29 | SSnake | i'm compiling a multi source plugin |
| 12:22:34 | SSnake | created new dir |
| 12:22:41 | SSnake | added in SOURCES |
| 12:22:56 | SSnake | copy/pasted sudoku Makefile in my new dir |
| 12:23:05 | SSnake | err i meant add in SUBDIRS |
| 12:23:15 | SSnake | any suggestions? |
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| 12:25:54 | BuNsiE | anyone know whats up with the svn server? |
| 12:26:14 | BuNsiE | i cant connect to it... |
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| 12:27:47 | SSnake | so no help for me... SIGH |
| 12:28:14 | SSnake | Bunsie... |
| 12:30:08 | BuNsiE | yes? |
| 12:30:18 | BuNsiE | sorry was eating.. |
| 12:30:21 | SSnake | :> |
| 12:30:59 | SSnake | have u ever had an error like this: "non constant expression for origin" |
| 12:31:10 | SSnake | popped by the linker |
| 12:31:18 | BuNsiE | woh, no |
| 12:31:19 | SSnake | in linking link.lds |
| 12:31:40 | SSnake | mmmmm i'm starting to think there's some problem with my linux distro |
| 12:31:45 | BuNsiE | i have absolutely no idea what that would mean sorry |
| 12:31:54 | SSnake | pfff |
| 12:31:58 | SSnake | i have no idea too |
| 12:32:10 | BuNsiE | could you think of a time that it could of been corrupted? |
| 12:32:25 | SSnake | mmm no |
| 12:32:27 | BuNsiE | of course that would be of little help hah |
| 12:32:40 | SSnake | just reinstalled old the dev env |
| 12:32:44 | SSnake | *all |
| 12:33:03 | SSnake | with roxckboxdev.sh etc |
| 12:33:09 | SSnake | configure |
| 12:33:13 | BuNsiE | i'll tell you a little secret, im still using windows |
| 12:33:15 | BuNsiE | >.< |
| 12:33:17 | SSnake | :> |
| 12:33:25 | SSnake | so u compile under windows.... |
| 12:33:29 | BuNsiE | mm |
| 12:33:48 | BuNsiE | using a virtual machine to run linux |
| 12:34:06 | SSnake | ah i read something |
| 12:34:09 | BuNsiE | i do it through that, the player is called VMware |
| 12:34:15 | SSnake | yep |
| 12:34:17 | SSnake | i remember |
| 12:34:30 | SSnake | the ~200MB file with virtual machine |
| 12:34:42 | BuNsiE | yep |
| 12:34:46 | SSnake | i have a debian server i use to compile |
| 12:34:57 | SSnake | but... |
| 12:35:40 | BuNsiE | now what is debian? i know that the ~200mb is called that but ^o) |
| 12:35:41 | SSnake | i'm don't know linux systems too well |
| 12:36:00 | SSnake | i think it's the same distro u use |
| 12:36:09 | SSnake | just a newer version maybe |
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| 12:36:23 | BuNsiE | of? |
| 12:36:28 | SSnake | linux |
| 12:36:37 | BuNsiE | thought so yooo |
| 12:36:50 | SSnake | it's something like windows 98 and ME |
| 12:36:50 | BuNsiE | it contans like heaps of apps too |
| 12:36:59 | SSnake | yeah |
| 12:38:04 | BuNsiE | well this was a fresh reinstall as i had to reboot, and only now have i got around to instaling it again, so do you think there could be something wrong with how it connects to my card > internet |
| 12:38:19 | BuNsiE | ? |
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| 12:39:41 | SSnake | ? |
| 12:39:45 | SSnake | do u have any problems? |
| 12:40:07 | SSnake | i don't understand your question |
| 12:40:27 | BuNsiE | well i cant get onto the rockbox svn server to download things |
| 12:41:40 | SSnake | ah yes sorry |
| 12:42:04 | SSnake | never tried to connect before? |
| 12:42:20 | BuNsiE | well yes before |
| 12:42:26 | BuNsiE | but not with this new install |
| 12:42:44 | BuNsiE | how do i connect to something else? just to check that i can connect? |
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| 12:43:20 | BuNsiE | because is "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" to get the current source |
| 12:43:43 | BuNsiE | because all i is doing* >.< im so stupid |
| 12:43:53 | BuNsiE | nvm ill work it out by myself its cool |
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| 12:46:46 | SSnake | honestly i don't know |
| 12:46:53 | SSnake | never used a vmware image |
| 12:47:21 | bughunter2 | BuNsiE: that exact command works fine here |
| 12:47:28 | SSnake | maybe there are some problems with /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:47:39 | bughunter2 | or /etc/resolv |
| 12:47:40 | SSnake | sorry guys have to go |
| 12:47:51 | SSnake | yeah bughunter is right |
| 12:47:58 | SSnake | some DNS problems |
| 12:48:07 | SSnake | maybe |
| 12:48:16 | SSnake | have a nice day guys |
| 12:48:33 | bughunter2 | SSnake: have a niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice day! |
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| 12:48:34 | bughunter2 | :P |
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| 13:04:53 | PaulJam | seems like there should be a new bootloader release for the H300 soon, the people in the MR forum are starting to distribute svn bootloader that seem to cause trouble for some users (forunately no bricks yet) |
| 13:05:19 | GodEater | so long as they don't come crying to us... |
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| 13:07:50 | PaulJam | true |
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| 13:19:11 | gevaerts | Zagor: I just submitted FS #8562 with a patch that should (if I read all specs correctly) contain some fixes. No behaviour improvement yet unfortunately. |
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| 13:20:35 | Zagor | gevaerts: the third change is interesting |
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| 13:23:14 | gevaerts | Zagor: I'm not sure about that one, but it still works as well as before, and the lines I removed are not relevant to the endpoint direction. |
| 13:24:01 | Zagor | gevaerts: I recall reading something about all endpoint directions needing to be initialized. |
| 13:24:33 | Zagor | right, see page 32-78 |
| 13:25:01 | Zagor | "If one endpoint direction is enabled and the paired endpoint of opposite direction is disabled then the unused direction type must be changed from the default control-type to any other type (IE. Bulk-type). leaving an unconfigured endpoint control will cause undefined behavior for the data pid tracking on the active endpoint/direction." |
| 13:25:35 | gevaerts | Zagor: Ah yes. I didn't see that bit. That change is wrong then |
| 13:31:26 | gevaerts | Zagor: I'd like to make the send-case callback-driven as well. Do you have any objections to that ? |
| 13:32:19 | Zagor | what part of it do you mean? |
| 13:33:49 | Zagor | anyway, I have no objections. the goal is to get it working. once it works we can debate design issues. |
| 13:33:56 | gevaerts | Zagor: remove the waiting part from prime_transfer(), and replacing that with a callback to the caller. Basically the same way that receives are handled. |
| 13:34:30 | Zagor | yeah the wait (as lots of other things) is there for testing. desperate attempts to find out what's wrong... |
| 13:34:40 | gevaerts | Zagor: yes. That should be the first goal. It's just that the current structure looks a bit too restricted to me |
| 13:35:02 | Zagor | feel free to change anything you want |
| 13:35:58 | gevaerts | Zagor: What I noticed its that bwhatever I tried (transfer alignment, different sizes,...) it always sends 95 bytes with a wrong checksum, but correct content. |
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| 13:36:13 | Zagor | weird |
| 13:37:20 | Zagor | I need to go to a meeting. See you later. |
| 13:37:30 | gevaerts | bye |
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| 13:59:48 | LinusN | gevaerts: do you really believe the 0xfffff000 masking is necessary? |
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| 14:02:24 | LinusN | are ptr1-4 required to begin on 4K boundaries? |
| 14:02:30 | LinusN | and not ptr0? |
| 14:08:33 | LinusN | ok, now i see |
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| 14:14:52 | GodEater | s/in/is |
| 14:14:55 | prepreglow | hooray, my irc screen is now on a box i can't access... |
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| 14:16:08 | Lynx_ | prepreglow: you can access it through irc ;)) |
| 14:24:00 | LinusN | gevaerts: for the serial usb, i think we need to set the multiplöier field to something other than 0 in the queue head (max_pkt_length) |
| 14:26:14 | GodEater | LinusN: did you consider (at all) the question I posed earlier regarding the bash prompt? Is there an area in the wiki for useful tools like this, or should I make a new one ? |
| 14:26:21 | gevaerts | LinusN: maybe. I didn't look at serial yet. |
| 14:26:38 | LinusN | GodEater: pick one :-) |
| 14:27:02 | GodEater | pick a page, any page.... |
| 14:27:09 | LinusN | gevaerts: hmm, i believe the serial usb is an interrupt endpoint, so it should probably be 0 |
| 14:27:59 | gevaerts | LinusN: serial is usually bulk |
| 14:28:05 | LinusN | it is? |
| 14:28:45 | LinusN | so you say that the correct data is sent, but the length is wrong? |
| 14:30:23 | gevaerts | LinusN: yes. At least for the storage case, it should send 4096 bytes (in 512-byte packets), and it sends 95 bytes. The crc is wrong, but the 95 bytes that get sent match what the OF sends for the same part of the flash |
| 14:31:07 | LinusN | interesting |
| 14:31:20 | LinusN | "the same part of the flash"? |
| 14:31:43 | gevaerts | LinusN: it's reading the partition table. |
| 14:31:50 | LinusN | ah |
| 14:32:25 | gevaerts | LinusN: usbserial in linux uses bulk for most or all serial devices |
| 14:32:56 | LinusN | i see |
| 14:33:28 | LinusN | i'm a little curious, how do we know that the td's aren't cached? |
| 14:33:47 | LinusN | ah, i see it now |
| 14:34:23 | LinusN | td_array is only a pointer to the uncached alias of _td_array |
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| 14:48:19 | preglow | bah, of course it keeps on coming... |
| 14:51:15 | pondlife | Zombie preglows |
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| 15:27:37 | GodEater | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentTools |
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| 15:34:06 | magenpie | i can't figure out how to do voice recording on c250 |
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| 15:55:46 | pixelma | magenpie: just saw that the button is wrong. If you want to call the recording settings menu from within the recording screen, you need to press the "menu" button, in the settings chose "Source > Microphone" |
| 15:56:12 | pixelma | (I meant that the manual names a wrong button) |
| 15:57:49 | pixelma | hmm... and "select" to start the recording |
| 15:57:50 | magenpie | i got that |
| 15:58:07 | magenpie | and press the record button, right? |
| 15:58:28 | magenpie | but i don't find the recording saved in the Voice folder |
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| 16:01:53 | petur | magenpie: if you didn't set a recording dir it will be in the root |
| 16:02:13 | pixelma | per default the recording will be saved to the root, but you could set a different one as recording directory (if you want to reuse the Voice folder of the original firmware but Rockbox doesn't put recordings from different sources into different folders but the recordings get a different name, e.g. "R_MIC_*" for records from the internal microphone) |
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| 16:03:37 | magenpie | are the recordings automatically saved? |
| 16:03:46 | magenpie | i don't see anything in root |
| 16:04:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | magenpie: Did you set a folder to be a recording folder? |
| 16:05:13 | magenpie | yes, Voice |
| 16:05:25 | magenpie | let me try once more... |
| 16:05:34 | magenpie | don't want to be telling you wrong thing |
| 16:06:33 | pixelma | yes, did you chose "select" to start thee recording? I know it's a little awkward ATM... you'll see the statusbar icon change to a circle and time and size will increase |
| 16:07:15 | magenpie | one sec |
| 16:07:44 | pixelma | "stop" is on long power and a little unresponsive (while it writes the data away) |
| 16:09:00 | magenpie | first i have to set recording dir, right? |
| 16:09:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yes. |
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| 16:09:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | That way you'll know where your files are going. |
| 16:09:41 | magenpie | so, menu, recording, voice, select? |
| 16:09:46 | pixelma | you don't have to - if you are fine with the root, or if you know it is already set |
| 16:09:58 | pixelma | chose as you like |
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| 16:10:46 | magenpie | turned it off! lol |
| 16:11:32 | pixelma | held power too long? |
| 16:11:36 | magenpie | yup |
| 16:11:48 | magenpie | ok, i did it, now to see if i can replay it |
| 16:12:14 | pixelma | the keymap is really not nice :\ |
| 16:12:49 | magenpie | i don't have it yet |
| 16:12:53 | magenpie | phooey |
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| 16:13:36 | magenpie | and having trouble getting back to main menu |
| 16:14:46 | magenpie | ok, it worked, ty! |
| 16:15:07 | magenpie | but i guess i didn't set recording dir because it's in root |
| 16:15:26 | magenpie | well, it's a good start |
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| 16:17:37 | magenpie | i don't hear anything...got to work on this |
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| 16:21:18 | magenpie | i hear it... |
| 16:21:32 | magenpie | context menu=long select? |
| 16:23:08 | pixelma | in the browsers, yes |
| 16:26:47 | magenpie | ok, so if i do a long select on the *mic file i should get menu and be able to delete? |
| 16:27:00 | n1s | yes |
| 16:27:41 | magenpie | that's not working although i have been able to access that menu before |
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| 16:28:11 | pixelma | works here |
| 16:29:01 | magenpie | darn |
| 16:29:42 | magenpie | just got it |
| 16:31:21 | magenpie | ok, thanks guys |
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| 16:39:48 | preglow_ | 'bout bloody time |
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| 17:03:17 | magenpie | i can't seem to replicate what i did to record |
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| 17:37:42 | SSnake | hi |
| 17:41:15 | kugel | Guys, can someone point me the file, where backlight is turned on on a button press? |
| 17:41:30 | GodEater | "the file" ? |
| 17:41:39 | kugel | in the source code |
| 17:41:47 | GodEater | ah |
| 17:42:16 | kugel | searched several files (action.c, backlight.c, and more) but I couldn't manage to find it |
| 17:43:02 | SSnake | mmmm i dont'think it exists |
| 17:43:25 | SSnake | probably you have to check buttons in a "while" cicle |
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| 17:43:40 | SSnake | and then call the function accordingly |
| 17:43:41 | markun | kugel: looks like it's firmware/drivers/button.c |
| 17:44:06 | markun | line 280 |
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| 17:45:17 | kugel | markun: Thanks, did you know that, or how did you find it? |
| 17:45:33 | markun | I guessed it was there and then looked |
| 17:45:39 | kugel | ok |
| 17:45:45 | markun | and it was :) |
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| 17:47:33 | ToHellWithGA | so rockbox likes fat32 while my macbook and ipod linux like hfs+ |
| 17:47:56 | ToHellWithGA | could y'all recommend a good guide on how to get them all to get along? |
| 17:48:53 | linuxstb | The manual has a link to instructions to convert to FAT32. |
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| 17:49:29 | ToHellWithGA | right, but once i have fat32 i can't use it with ipod linux, itunes on osx, or files over 4GB |
| 17:49:30 | linuxstb | Your macbook will like FAT32, and I think IPL can use it as well now. |
| 17:49:55 | linuxstb | There's no other solution - Rockbox only understands FAT32. |
| 17:50:04 | ToHellWithGA | ok |
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| 17:50:51 | ToHellWithGA | does rockbox's fat32 partition have to be the first useable partition? |
| 17:51:12 | linuxstb | Rockbox will try to mount each primary partition in turn, until it finds a valid FAT32 partition. |
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| 17:52:00 | linuxstb | But be aware that HFS+ formatted ipods have an Apple Partition Map, not a DOS Partition Table - Rockbox only understands the latter. |
| 17:52:03 | ToHellWithGA | munny. so i can do videos and large files on hfs+ and put rockbox and music on a later partition |
| 17:52:16 | ToHellWithGA | snap |
| 17:55:22 | SSnake | the PLUGIN_API doc seems to be really old |
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| 17:55:39 | ToHellWithGA | maybe i should just use on itunes alternative like gtkpod |
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| 17:56:12 | SSnake | does a video resize function exist? |
| 17:56:20 | SSnake | to be used in a plugin |
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| 17:56:49 | SSnake | i peeked at some source code... |
| 17:57:03 | SSnake | it seems there's something related in bmp.c |
| 17:57:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | TellHellWithGA: Keep a watch on this project if you're looking for an iTunes alternative: http://www.songbirdnest.com/ |
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| 17:58:28 | kugel | markun: thanks, the file doesn't seem to help me much though |
| 17:58:44 | kugel | at least not in the way I hoped |
| 17:58:53 | SSnake | excuse me kugel |
| 17:59:11 | SSnake | why are you looking at buttons.c? |
| 17:59:13 | SSnake | i mean |
| 17:59:27 | SSnake | can't you use a loop and a call to the backlight funciont? |
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| 17:59:54 | kugel | !? |
| 17:59:55 | SSnake | i ask because i'm trying to better understand rockbox api |
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| 18:01:05 | SSnake | i think in plugins you use rb->button_get(true) |
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| 18:01:27 | SSnake | then check the returned value |
| 18:01:35 | SSnake | in a loop |
| 18:01:47 | SSnake | and set backlight everytime you press sometingh |
| 18:01:52 | SSnake | am i wrong? |
| 18:02:00 | kugel | I don't talk about plugins |
| 18:02:21 | kugel | rb->* is the rockbox plugin api |
| 18:02:40 | SSnake | mm yep |
| 18:03:01 | SSnake | are you trying to change something kernel related? |
| 18:03:02 | kugel | I don't to edit/make a plugin |
| 18:03:18 | kugel | Yes |
| 18:03:23 | SSnake | :> |
| 18:04:50 | kugel | I want the scroll wheel and the left/right buttons not to turn on the backlight when I'm in the wps |
| 18:05:26 | pixelma | SSnake: it would be nice and much more readable, especially in the logs, if you would put your thoughts on one line... thanks (see guidelines by the way) ;) |
| 18:06:14 | pixelma | at least one though = one line |
| 18:06:15 | SSnake | ok pixelma i'll do it, thanks for the advice. |
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| 18:11:26 | SSnake | however about plugin API: is provided some video resize function ? |
| 18:11:35 | linuxstb | kugel: Currently, the firmware/ code doesn't know which screen is active in the apps/ code. One way would be to introduce a function in button.c called something like "backlight_mode" which the apps/ code would need to call when entering and leaving the WPS to change the backlight mode (stored in a local variable in button.c) between "all buttons" and "some buttons". |
| 18:11:58 | linuxstb | SSnake: Do you really mean "video" (as in movies), or just a still image (bitmap) ? |
| 18:12:45 | SSnake | just sill images. I mean some kind of function that takes a fb_data buffer of 640x480 and resizes down to 220x176 (for example) |
| 18:13:53 | linuxstb | Then no. Although I think there are some bitmap resizing patches on flyspray. |
| 18:14:11 | SSnake | i'm trying to convert an open source game running in 320x240 to color targets with smaller displays |
| 18:14:20 | kugel | ah, I thought I could #include "action.h", and if ACTION_WPS_VOLUP/_VOLDOWN out |
| 18:14:47 | PaulJam | wasn't bitmap rezizing committed some time ago? i thought sliding puzzle uses it. |
| 18:14:52 | linuxstb | SSnake: A fundamental principle of Rockbox is to not do things at runtime that can be done at compile-time. Resizing bmp files for the target's LCD size can be done in advance. |
| 18:14:53 | pixelma | linuxstb: I *think* that some simple bmp resizing for plugins entered with the sliding_puzzle rework |
| 18:15:01 | * | linuxstb missed that... |
| 18:15:32 | pixelma | at least it scales my 40x40 album art to 80x80 in my c250 display... ;) |
| 18:16:06 | SSnake | so it seems i i have to check sliding puzzle |
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| 18:16:43 | linuxstb | SSnake: Why not just convert in advance? |
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| 18:17:20 | SSnake | @pixelma: i need to compose the bacrkoud with tiles + sprites on it and then resize all the video buffer |
| 18:17:38 | linuxstb | You don't really want a 640x480 (600KB!) bitmap - plugins only have 512KB of RAM to use (unless you stop audio playback and claim the entire RAM). |
| 18:18:01 | SSnake | oh that's another important news i dunno |
| 18:18:12 | SSnake | i thought i had ~30MB |
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| 18:18:22 | Horscht | you have (probably) |
| 18:18:29 | Horscht | but plugins can only use 512kb |
| 18:18:29 | Mediapirate | Hi everyone |
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| 18:18:45 | linuxstb | SSnake: You only have 30MB if you stop music playback. We don't want plugins to do that if it can be avoided. |
| 18:19:37 | Horscht | just like the pictureflow plugin does |
| 18:19:38 | SSnake | mmmmm i dont' know: probably i can do it with graphics, but not with audio |
| 18:19:59 | SSnake | it's a game with it's own audio |
| 18:20:08 | linuxstb | SSnake: You should look at how other plugins use bitmaps - they are stored in the apps/plugins/bitmaps/native directory in the source code, and then at compile-time are linked into the plugin binary itself. Plugins don't load them at runtime. |
| 18:22:12 | linuxstb | The apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/SOURCES file determines which bitmaps are used for which targets - they are pre-scaled to the required size. |
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| 18:22:30 | SSnake | mmmm it becomes really hard: the games has hardcoded hex tiles values. I'd need to convert to bitmap/resize etc |
| 18:22:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mediapirate: Why did you open a personal chat channel on me? |
| 18:22:45 | Mediapirate | why not? |
| 18:22:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | I didn't ask you to, did I? |
| 18:23:15 | Mediapirate | I didn't ask you to talk to me in here |
| 18:23:17 | Mediapirate | but you did |
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| 18:23:26 | Mediapirate | I don't really see the relevance in these comments |
| 18:23:29 | Mediapirate | who do you think you are? |
| 18:23:51 | Horscht | friendly greetings to you aswell |
| 18:24:22 | Mediapirate | hehe |
| 18:24:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mediapirate: You don't go around on IRC just randomly opening personal chat channels on people. |
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| 18:25:11 | Mediapirate | Oh really |
| 18:25:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now please close that channel. |
| 18:25:16 | Mediapirate | never heard that rule before |
| 18:25:26 | Mediapirate | i've closed it |
| 18:25:28 | Mediapirate | a long time ago |
| 18:25:28 | magenpie | even i know that |
| 18:25:37 | Mediapirate | wtf |
| 18:25:40 | Mediapirate | what are these random rules |
| 18:25:42 | magenpie | always ask |
| 18:25:46 | magenpie | not just this room |
| 18:25:54 | linuxstb | SSnake: The issue is that writing embedded software is completely different to desktop apps... So yes, it's a lot of work to do it right. |
| 18:25:55 | Horscht | it's not "a rule". it's just a guideline on how to behave |
| 18:26:21 | Mediapirate | an unwritten rule? |
| 18:26:29 | Horscht | so to say, yes |
| 18:26:38 | scorche|w | it isnt unwritten |
| 18:26:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://catb.org/jargon/html/N/netiquette.html |
| 18:26:49 | Horscht | yes, that's the word1 |
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| 18:27:05 | Horscht | i think my shift key is broken |
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| 18:27:16 | pondlife | MINE'S NOT |
| 18:27:22 | linuxstb | Looks like it is... |
| 18:27:28 | * | pondlife was breaking more netiquette |
| 18:27:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | :) |
| 18:27:30 | Horscht | this is getting off topic |
| 18:28:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Horscht: Agreed. But it had to be said. |
| 18:28:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mediapirate: Never open personal chat channels with people again, unless they ask you to. |
| 18:29:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now I'm heading off for a bit. |
| 18:29:28 | Mediapirate | :-S |
| 18:29:37 | Mediapirate | this is the least friendly place i've ever bein |
| 18:29:42 | Mediapirate | been* |
| 18:29:51 | Mediapirate | I'm ashamed i've ever been here |
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| 18:30:12 | Domonoky | hit and run.. :-) |
| 18:30:42 | * | scorche|w sobs a bit into Domonoky's shoulder |
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| 18:34:46 | bughunter2 | some people need to be smashed with a golfclub |
| 18:35:13 | pondlife | He had it easy too |
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| 18:40:32 | kugel | linuxstb: cool it works, I get a couple of warnings though |
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| 18:45:02 | quaal | anyone experience rockbox making their ipod video not turn on anymore? |
| 18:45:17 | Horscht | nope |
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| 18:45:28 | Horscht | boots fine, here |
| 18:45:37 | quaal | well |
| 18:45:40 | quaal | worked fine fro a while for me |
| 18:45:49 | quaal | but now it wont turn on at all |
| 18:45:51 | quaal | <2yrs old |
| 18:46:01 | Horscht | low battery? |
| 18:46:09 | quaal | plugging in does nothing. |
| 18:46:15 | pixelma | when did you last update your bootloader? |
| 18:46:29 | quaal | whenever i installed rockbox |
| 18:46:32 | quaal | maybe a month ago |
| 18:46:48 | PaulJam | have you already tried to reset it? |
| 18:46:50 | pixelma | ok, tried to reset it? |
| 18:47:02 | quaal | isnt that like top+bottom button |
| 18:47:16 | PaulJam | menu+select |
| 18:47:38 | quaal | like 5sec hold |
| 18:48:06 | quaal | oh shit |
| 18:48:08 | quaal | its back on |
| 18:48:19 | quaal | nice |
| 18:48:23 | quaal | thanks |
| 18:48:50 | quaal | please wait.. very low battery |
| 18:49:01 | quaal | i dislike that the battery lasts for like.. an hour |
| 18:49:05 | quaal | any fixes for that yet |
| 18:49:28 | Horscht | uhm... mine lasts... 17h |
| 18:49:35 | quaal | 17 hours? |
| 18:49:35 | PaulJam | if it lasts _that_ short then you have to replace it |
| 18:49:38 | quaal | an ipod video? |
| 18:49:44 | Horscht | so, yes, theres a fix for you: new battery |
| 18:49:51 | quaal | uhh |
| 18:49:57 | Horscht | yes, quaal. Ipod Video 80GB |
| 18:50:05 | quaal | pretty sure replacing a nonreplaceable battery is >the cost of ipod |
| 18:50:35 | quaal | its not that short with the itunes firmware |
| 18:50:41 | Horscht | if i recall correctly, non 80GB Videos have a slightly lower battery runtime, though |
| 18:50:44 | quaal | also it was only charging to like 37% |
| 18:50:47 | Horscht | but surely, 1hour seems too low |
| 18:51:20 | Horscht | still sounds like your battery is dead |
| 18:51:20 | PaulJam | i'm sure you find plenty replacement batteries on ebay, and lots of guides how to replace it in google. |
| 18:51:20 | scorche|w | quaal: have you tested this with a proper battery bench? |
| 18:52:48 | gevaerts | Zagor: I have some progress. By forcing the device to full speed (PORTSCX_PORT_FORCE_FULL_SPEED), I seem to get working transfers. After adding a send_csw(good) at the end or read10, linux manages to parse the partition table. After that something goes wrong. |
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| 18:58:12 | quaal | scorche|w, battery bench? |
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| 19:00:25 | Horscht | charge your ipod, run the battery bench plugin and wait till the battery runs out |
| 19:00:32 | Horscht | with playback ofc |
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| 19:03:59 | LinusN | gevaerts: nice to hear that you have some progress :-) |
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| 19:04:46 | amiconn | gevaerts, LinusN: *afaik* fullspeed automatically limits the maximum transfer size to 64 bytes |
| 19:04:52 | gevaerts | Yes. It's only full speed for now, but that's better than nothing |
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| 19:04:56 | amiconn | Only highspeed allows more than that |
| 19:05:03 | gevaerts | amiconn: yes. That's one of the reasons I tried |
| 19:05:22 | amiconn | gevaerts: iirc you already reported yesterday that 64 byte tarnsfers do work |
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| 19:05:47 | amiconn | I really wonder what special setup the OF does, as highspeed mode definitely works there |
| 19:05:56 | gevaerts | amiconn: yes, on high speed. Unfortunately, you can't limit the packed size to 64 bytes then. |
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| 19:06:35 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, did you find some interesting new details in your OF disassembly work? |
| 19:07:48 | gevaerts | Now it fails while reading the very last sector of the device. I wonder if the partition might be slightly faked (to support this 16MB fake partition the OF provides) |
| 19:08:10 | amiconn | Fake partition? |
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| 19:09:00 | LinusN | amiconn: not really - i still don't know how to activate the serial port :-( |
| 19:09:22 | SSnake | hi linusN, i have news for you (good one) |
| 19:09:25 | amiconn | LinusN: Yeah, but maybe you found other things while digging for the serial |
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| 19:09:36 | LinusN | SSnake: got it working? |
| 19:09:55 | SSnake | yes! It was a problem with a file in my directory |
| 19:09:56 | amiconn | (e.g. some usb init stuff) |
| 19:10:12 | LinusN | amiconn: i had to put the disassembly on hold - real life got in the way as usual :-/ |
| 19:10:48 | amiconn | I'm obviously not very good in following the general execution flow when RE'ing |
| 19:10:50 | LinusN | i will try to start a project with the real OF instead of the bootloader |
| 19:11:01 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'm not sure if it's fake. Anyway I ust noticed an off-by-one bug in the size reporting. I'll try fixing that first |
| 19:11:18 | amiconn | I often search for low-level functions by digging for some know values (port addresses, magic values etc) |
| 19:11:27 | LinusN | amiconn: me too |
| 19:11:49 | amiconn | But that method doesn't help when you need to find the upper-level stuff ... :/ |
| 19:13:31 | amiconn | E.g. the serial setup might take place in a very different place in the code than the serial transfers |
| 19:13:57 | amiconn | Did you try follwing that serial rootshell code in the rom? |
| 19:14:42 | LinusN | amiconn: yes i have followed that code |
| 19:14:58 | amiconn | No setup found? |
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| 19:15:20 | LinusN | the problem is that the main menu of the serial debug code isn't called by any other code |
| 19:15:42 | LinusN | which leads me to believe that the code is either dead, or called by the OF |
| 19:16:17 | amiconn | hmm |
| 19:16:55 | amiconn | Maybe it's called via a jump table or another way of absolute addressing, and the code is copied to ram before execution? |
| 19:17:16 | LinusN | the code is copied to ram, but i have rebased it |
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| 19:17:40 | LinusN | the serial init code is there too, but there is something missing |
| 19:18:08 | LinusN | there is probably an external buffer that needs to be enabled |
| 19:18:39 | amiconn | The PP502x most probably has some pin multiplexers |
| 19:18:48 | LinusN | maybe |
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| 19:20:38 | | Join kl33t0ris [0] (n=name@T710f.t.pppool.de) |
| 19:20:53 | kl33t0ris | hi@all |
| 19:21:33 | kl33t0ris | anybody there ? i have a question |
| 19:21:47 | kugel | Just ask |
| 19:21:49 | bluebrother | only 149 people in here ... |
| 19:22:15 | kl33t0ris | k, thx...so my iPod "color" seems to have problems with 320 kbit mp3 files |
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| 19:22:28 | kl33t0ris | it starts skipping after a few secoinds of playback |
| 19:22:43 | kl33t0ris | is this a known bug ? |
| 19:22:58 | kl33t0ris | or is there just something wrong my ipod |
| 19:23:01 | scorche|w | kl33t0ris: what build are you running? |
| 19:23:02 | kl33t0ris | *with |
| 19:23:14 | kl33t0ris | wait a sec |
| 19:24:05 | kl33t0ris | im running r15542-071108 |
| 19:24:25 | bluebrother | wow, that's outdated. |
| 19:24:29 | kl33t0ris | i know |
| 19:24:44 | scorche|w | kl33t0ris: update to the current build |
| 19:25:11 | * | bluebrother was too slow with the usual answer(tm) ;-) |
| 19:25:23 | kl33t0ris | i already tried the newest |
| 19:25:45 | kl33t0ris | after that my ipod didnt get recognized as a usb drive anymore |
| 19:25:54 | kl33t0ris | so i switched back |
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| 19:26:07 | scorche|w | you need to boot into dick mode for that |
| 19:26:16 | spolta | Dick mode. |
| 19:26:17 | spolta | Nice. |
| 19:26:18 | scorche|w | there are TONS of forum posts about that |
| 19:26:20 | kl33t0ris | roflmao...dickmode :p |
| 19:26:22 | scorche|w | errrr... |
| 19:26:33 | spolta | I'm reinstalling Rockbox today. |
| 19:26:33 | kl33t0ris | diskmode...right ? |
| 19:26:41 | spolta | After being annoyed by IpodLinux. |
| 19:26:42 | scorche|w | ... yes ... |
| 19:26:47 | spolta | It's been a while. |
| 19:26:58 | spolta | Are there any other applications for Rockbox than the ones they give out on the site? |
| 19:27:04 | scorche|w | no |
| 19:27:32 | kl33t0ris | sure...theres GPS and wireless LAN...but thats topsecret |
| 19:27:54 | bluebrother | ... and the coffee maker plugin! |
| 19:28:08 | kl33t0ris | damn forgot about that |
| 19:28:21 | spolta | I already have the coffee maker plugin. |
| 19:28:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | What about the time travel plugin? |
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| 19:28:46 | spolta | The link to that one is dead. |
| 19:28:50 | spolta | :'( |
| 19:28:57 | kl33t0ris | well...ill update now...and if its screwed again ill go ninja on your asses :p |
| 19:29:12 | bluebrother | well, then the only thing you need additionally is Rockbox Utility. |
| 19:29:13 | spolta | OS everybody? |
| 19:29:18 | spolta | I'm using Debian. |
| 19:29:22 | scorche|w | it isnt screwed....read the past forum posts about that |
| 19:29:36 | kl33t0ris | there is a forum ? |
| 19:29:37 | scorche|w | spolta: what does that have to do with rockbox? |
| 19:29:41 | kl33t0ris | wow |
| 19:29:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | spolta: Off topic! |
| 19:29:48 | spolta | Just curiousity. |
| 19:30:01 | spolta | There usually isn't O.T. things to say in IRC. |
| 19:30:06 | spolta | All love here, all love. |
| 19:30:08 | spolta | soz. |
| 19:30:16 | scorche|w | spolta: well, we have guidelines here :) |
| 19:30:17 | rasher | spolta: Well, this channel is strictly on-topic. |
| 19:30:23 | kl33t0ris | Vista, XP and Debian....^_^...sry |
| 19:30:24 | Domonoky | spolta: this is an ONTOPIC channel.. |
| 19:30:25 | spolta | Alright. |
| 19:30:27 | * | bluebrother points to the channel topic |
| 19:30:35 | scorche|w | and actually, most project oriented channels are strictly ontopic |
| 19:30:47 | spolta | Not 420chan... |
| 19:30:49 | spolta | Heh. |
| 19:31:00 | scorche|w | that isnt project oriented |
| 19:31:01 | spolta | The project of chan. |
| 19:31:07 | spolta | And drugs. |
| 19:31:13 | spolta | Sounds like a project to me. |
| 19:31:16 | spolta | ANYWAY. |
| 19:31:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | spolta: Don't make me LART you. |
| 19:31:18 | spolta | Sorry about that. |
| 19:31:20 | spolta | K. |
| 19:31:42 | Horscht | what's LART? |
| 19:31:43 | kl33t0ris | LART ? |
| 19:32:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://catb.org/jargon/html/L/LART.html |
| 19:32:06 | scorche|w | your google-fu is lacking |
| 19:32:14 | bluebrother | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LART |
| 19:32:36 | Horscht | yeah, my google-fu skills left me when my wife left me |
| 19:32:37 | spolta | Brilliant. |
| 19:32:57 | bluebrother | Domonoky: why did you create that encoder cache? Is creating a new encoder object that expensive / slow? |
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| 19:33:12 | spolta | So. What is there to do with Rockbox after I get sick of watching videos and using the default plugins? :/ |
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| 19:33:21 | krazykit | spolta, listen to music? |
| 19:33:22 | Lars_G | Ok I just got my e260 today |
| 19:33:22 | Domonoky | bluebrother: no, its there because they dont get deleted :-) |
| 19:33:27 | bluebrother | play music? |
| 19:33:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | Play with the code? Make new plugins? |
| 19:33:42 | Lars_G | it's a V1 e200, (not R) I toyed with the OF about 10 minutes, I liked it, I'm already installing rockbox :P lol |
| 19:33:50 | Lars_G | It didn't last 10 friggin minutes |
| 19:33:52 | bluebrother | Domonoky: ok. I'm currently changing the settings thingy of the encoder to not use the displayed string ;-) |
| 19:33:54 | spolta | What is the code like? |
| 19:33:57 | Domonoky | bluebrother: but maybe this could be changed, as they now take a QObject as parent, and not a QWidget anymore.. |
| 19:34:00 | spolta | Haven't looked at anything like that. |
| 19:34:14 | scorche|w | spolta: like a lot of other code...you can look at it online.. |
| 19:34:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | C. With some assembly here and there. |
| 19:34:21 | spolta | Figured. |
| 19:34:26 | JdGordon|w | Domonoky: bluebrother: what do you guys think about adding a config editor to rbutil? |
| 19:34:38 | Domonoky | bluebrother: feel free to change anything, which could be improved :-) |
| 19:34:55 | spolta | What plugins have you guys made? |
| 19:35:01 | Domonoky | JdGordon|w: a config editor would be nice.. :-) go forward ..*hehe* |
| 19:35:08 | bluebrother | JdGordon|w: well, I thought about that quite a whie ago. |
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| 19:35:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | spolta: These: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
| 19:35:57 | bluebrother | Domonoky: you had Qt plugins running already, maybe add this as plugin? Or make it configurable using some description file (so we don't need to adjust rbutil itself if the settings change / get extended) |
| 19:36:47 | spolta | I remember trying to use the GB emulator |
| 19:36:54 | spolta | The FPS was slow. |
| 19:36:59 | spolta | Too slow for megaman that is. |
| 19:37:03 | spolta | Fine for Pokemon. :) |
| 19:37:08 | kl33t0ris | how much fps did u get ? |
| 19:37:16 | kl33t0ris | im getting 50 to 60+ |
| 19:37:28 | krazykit | the speed you get will also depend on your target |
| 19:37:29 | spolta | I don't remember. |
| 19:37:32 | Horscht | depends on the target probably |
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| 19:37:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | kleet0ris: Please speak in Standard English. No shorthanding. |
| 19:38:02 | kl33t0ris | okay...sorry |
| 19:38:02 | spolta | FPS is shorthanding then. |
| 19:38:07 | spolta | ;) |
| 19:38:07 | krazykit | the gigabeat is significantly faster than, say, an ipod or sansa |
| 19:38:09 | Horscht | "you" instead of "u" |
| 19:38:11 | scorche|w | fps is fine... |
| 19:38:17 | spolta | I suppose. |
| 19:38:26 | Horscht | fps is fine, since it's a technical term |
| 19:38:37 | spolta | Ah. |
| 19:39:00 | Domonoky | Qt plugins arent too hard to use, but we would need to build a mechanism to selectivly load them... ie some framing code, and a decision what those rbuitl plugins are allowed to do.. |
| 19:39:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | But we don't want people coming in speaking like a 12-year old fresh off AOL. |
| 19:39:07 | scorche|w | spolta: sorry for asking, but what is your purpose for being here?...many of your questions seem to be socially oriented, but this isnt quite a social channel |
| 19:39:20 | spolta | I'm new, give me a break. |
| 19:39:21 | kl33t0ris | wow...scrolling seems to be much faster in the current build |
| 19:39:24 | spolta | I'll have questions. |
| 19:39:40 | * | bluebrother remembers the aoluser translation for Rockbox ;-) |
| 19:39:54 | krazykit | spolta, if you haven't read the channel guidelines linked in the topic, please do so |
| 19:40:30 | bluebrother | Domonoky: well, my idea was to have plugins access the current user settings, write to the target and get a tab or an own window launched by a tab. |
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| 19:43:07 | bluebrother | Domonoky: btw, I had the impression that unchecking "run recursive" in the talk window doesn't have any effect. |
| 19:43:30 | Domonoky | bluebrother: the settings for the plugins are now a bit more difficult, as we now have the rbsettings class... (but maybe we could add more generic settings functions to the rbsettings class.. |
| 19:44:00 | * | Domonoky checks the code for the recursive thing.. |
| 19:44:25 | bluebrother | hmm, we could also just add the editor to another tab. |
| 19:44:51 | bluebrother | but we should try to make a new release first. |
| 19:45:26 | Domonoky | yes, we should really try to make a new release.. (maybe without the cli interface) |
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| 19:46:16 | bluebrother | the cli version should really get 1.1 |
| 19:48:20 | * | kl33toris is saying "Thank you" to everyone |
| 19:48:26 | Mikerman | Hey, folks. Was going to try an create a Wiki page on converting PDFs for use under Rockbox (a user had posted a tutorial in the forums, and I was going to get it into the Wiki). Could I be granted Wiki write permission? |
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| 19:49:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mikerman: What's your wiki name? |
| 19:49:20 | Mikerman | MikeSobel |
| 19:49:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mikerman: Hang out a sec whilst I add you. |
| 19:50:05 | Domonoky | bluebrother: it seams the recursiv option got lost in the last rework/bugfix of the talkfile generation.. :-) |
| 19:50:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mikerman: Seems you're already added. |
| 19:51:38 | Mikerman | Thanks−−maybe I goofed. I can edit the Wiki, but when I tried to start a new page a few minutes ago, I got an access denied or such. Maybe it's my error (never started a Wiki page before). |
| 19:52:04 | magenpie | i just installed new build on c250 and i just get the sandisk logo flashing when i turn it on |
| 19:52:57 | magenpie | i guess i should check out what i did before i ask for help |
| 19:53:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | magenpie: My c240 flashes the SanDisk logo twice, then Rockbox comes up about 1 second after the second flash. |
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| 19:54:44 | magenpie | that's what it was doing before i installed a few minutes ago |
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| 19:56:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now how is the logo coming up? |
| 19:56:13 | magenpie | the new directory is called .rockbox(4) - could that be a problem? |
| 19:56:23 | bluebrother | yep. |
| 19:56:28 | magenpie | ok |
| 19:56:32 | magenpie | i'll rename |
| 19:56:35 | magenpie | ty |
| 19:56:49 | bluebrother | the folder needs to be called ".rockbox" (without the quotes of course) |
| 19:57:01 | magenpie | right |
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| 20:01:21 | kl33toris | what the... |
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| 20:04:52 | magenpie | i can't seem to access it to change name |
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| 20:05:44 | magenpie | it's /dev/sda1 /media/Sansa c250 |
| 20:06:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | magenpie: Turn on hidden file view. |
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| 20:07:11 | magenpie | ok |
| 20:10:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Do you see the folder now? |
| 20:11:26 | magenpie | yes, i see it |
| 20:11:31 | magenpie | renaming now |
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| 20:34:12 | magenpie | ok, i successfully renamed the rockbox directory |
| 20:34:37 | magenpie | but i lost the Music folder - it doesn't show in rb but it's there |
| 20:35:11 | magenpie | maybe rebuild database? |
| 20:35:26 | bluebrother | magenpie: have you enabled the "show all files" option? |
| 20:35:34 | magenpie | yes |
| 20:35:39 | magenpie | rebooting |
| 20:35:51 | linuxstb | No need to reboot... |
| 20:37:21 | magenpie | ah, there it is...i had show all files but i didn't realize i needed to do that again...but of course all the prior settings were lost |
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| 20:39:59 | lostlogic | Nico_P: minor niggle with album art −− if maxwidth and maxheight are specified it only looks for covers with generic names or with exactly that size named |
| 20:40:10 | lostlogic | Nico_P: how hard would it be to search for the largest sized cover <= the specified size? |
| 20:41:13 | Nico_P | we'd have to get a list of all files in the dirs where we look, and search that list for the best possible match |
| 20:41:31 | Nico_P | so not *that* hard, but still quite a lot of overhead compared to the current method |
| 20:42:07 | rasher | Especially if it's a dir with many files (or .rockbox/albumart/) |
| 20:43:09 | lostlogic | hmm... when no size is specified it only looks for generically named ones? |
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| 20:45:53 | Nico_P | yes |
| 20:46:35 | lostlogic | I see. |
| 20:50:39 | kugel | What do you think about the latest bmp resize patch developement? Especially the latest version with MoB |
| 20:51:45 | lostlogic | I think that when it's in we'll definitely want to have some kind of search algo. to find largest < max in directories. |
| 20:52:15 | * | lostlogic looks at patch |
| 20:52:17 | Nico_P | kugel: just looked at it and I don't see why he called it MoB |
| 20:53:27 | Nico_P | oh actually I take back what I said |
| 20:54:01 | kugel | If I'm not wrong, now the resized bmp is stored in the buffer, previously the bmp was resized in another way |
| 20:55:47 | Lear | And when doing searches, trying to keep things efficient. (Current search really isn't very efficient, given how a FAT file is located...) |
| 20:56:42 | lostlogic | yeah, that's the tough part.. I mean it's easy to filter if we get a directory listing, but that seems crappy. |
| 20:57:42 | linuxstb | Wouldn't you just store the image in the original size (as large as possible) ? |
| 20:58:09 | linuxstb | I thought the whole point of resize was to not have multiple copies... |
| 20:58:19 | lostlogic | linuxstb: yeah, you're right. |
| 20:58:26 | kugel | Nico_P: I wonder why he #ifdef'ed LCD_COLOR targets out, while you didn't in your last sync of FS #8308 |
| 20:58:29 | Lear | Isn't the scaler of the fast but ugly kind though? |
| 20:58:43 | Lear | (Haven't checked the patch, I must admit. :) ) |
| 20:58:52 | lostlogic | I think the new smooth one is supposed to be decent, but I'm not positive on that |
| 20:59:07 | Nico_P | yeah, there's a smooth version |
| 20:59:47 | linuxstb | I guess that should be criteria for committing - if it's good enough so that people can just store one copy of the bitmap, then commit... |
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| 21:00:43 | preglow | hmm, isn't it possible to use a cue/mp3 combination by playing the .cue file? |
| 21:01:15 | bluebrother | iirc you need to play the mp3 and the cue gets loaded by the cuesheet handling |
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| 21:01:25 | preglow | that means i can't use cue/mp3 combos that don't share the same file name at all in rockbox... |
| 21:01:26 | kugel | Isn't FS #8308 supposed to be used in plugins only? I mean, it's all in apps/plugins |
| 21:01:38 | pixelma | IIRC you have to play the mp3 (and need cuefile support enabtled) |
| 21:01:45 | pixelma | *enabled |
| 21:01:47 | kugel | If yes, smooth album art resizes would require plugin code |
| 21:02:05 | linuxstb | preglow: Rename it? |
| 21:02:14 | preglow | linuxstb: i don't see why that is necessary |
| 21:02:31 | preglow | no other part of rockbox requires me to rename my files |
| 21:02:53 | linuxstb | The alternative is nasty - it would make .cue files a valid music filetype, so both the .cue and .mp3 get added to the playlist. |
| 21:03:06 | Nico_P | kugel: yeah, 8308 is supposed to be for plugins. it can be moved easily, but 5697 doesn't do it very well |
| 21:03:27 | preglow | linuxstb: i believe that is how all other music players does it, yes... |
| 21:03:34 | Nico_P | preglow: it was discussed in length before I committed cue support |
| 21:03:44 | linuxstb | It was just much cleaner to make the .cue file "metadata about the .mp3", rather than the other way round. |
| 21:03:44 | kugel | preglow: Don't you need your album arts? |
| 21:03:51 | kugel | +to renamo |
| 21:04:01 | preglow | kugel: i don't use album art |
| 21:04:28 | preglow | linuxstb: with the consequence that i now have to rename files to use them with rockbox, doesn't sound very clean to me |
| 21:04:34 | kugel | But if, you wouldn't only need to rename, but also to convert it for suiting rockbox |
| 21:04:42 | lostlogic | hmm, I think that we need to do something more intrusive with the bitmap resize feature to make it 'safe' |
| 21:04:46 | preglow | kugel: oh, sure, but album art isn't music |
| 21:04:51 | linuxstb | preglow: Then feel free to implement it differently... |
| 21:04:57 | rasher | preglow: neither are .cue files |
| 21:05:03 | kugel | preglow: the cue itself isn't music either :) |
| 21:05:05 | preglow | rasher: well, that's splitting hairs a bit |
| 21:05:20 | preglow | they enable me to play my music better |
| 21:05:24 | preglow | album art is eye candy |
| 21:05:45 | * | bluebrother never understood the use of cue anyway |
| 21:05:53 | linuxstb | preglow: But I agree with you in principle, it's just that in practice it doesn't fit in with Rockbox. |
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| 21:06:12 | preglow | linuxstb: why do we do this differently? all other music players seem comfortable with the fact that the mp3 gets included as well when you just insert a dir |
| 21:06:14 | Nico_P | preglow: I was of your opinion at first |
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| 21:06:37 | Nico_P | preglow: the players I've seen require the cue and the mp3 to have the same name |
| 21:06:44 | rasher | Couldn't you make a .cue "viewer" plugin that adds the file in there to the current playlist? |
| 21:07:00 | rasher | Which would then in turn load the .cue... |
| 21:07:08 | preglow | rasher: that would work, yeah |
| 21:07:16 | rasher | The Aristocrats! |
| 21:07:16 | preglow | but then i lose the cue viewer |
| 21:07:30 | linuxstb | preglow: Then I would call them broken. |
| 21:07:43 | linuxstb | (not that Rockbox is perfect, just broken differently...) |
| 21:07:47 | quaal | hm |
| 21:07:50 | preglow | well, i'd call requiring me to rename my files broken |
| 21:07:51 | preglow | that's for sure |
| 21:08:01 | quaal | it appears that i've now got 96% - 9hours of battery |
| 21:08:06 | quaal | and its growing |
| 21:08:12 | quaal | when disconnected. |
| 21:08:21 | linuxstb | preglow: But seriously, is it a problem? Would you prefer that playing a directory of cue/mp3 files duplicates them all? |
| 21:08:32 | Nico_P | preglow: it has become common practice to name the cue and the mp3 the same |
| 21:08:40 | preglow | linuxstb: yup, gladly, happens to me all the time with foobar |
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| 21:08:52 | amiconn | Imo, cue sheets are a broken concept in the first place, and one can't expect rockbox to fix that |
| 21:08:58 | preglow | Nico_P: depends where you look |
| 21:08:59 | linuxstb | preglow: It would annoy me no end. |
| 21:09:01 | lostlogic | Nico_P: I think it's a better idea to have the correct size for the bitmap allocated on the buffer the first time, with some kind of get_buffersize() call rather than allocating it based on the filesize, how do you feel about that? |
| 21:09:16 | lostlogic | Nico_P: then load the file bitmap into a single static temporary buffer an resize to the filebuffer |
| 21:09:17 | preglow | linuxstb: anyway, why not just not load .cue when building play lists? |
| 21:09:28 | lostlogic | that way we could more easily make the bitmap reading asynchronous like other types instead of sync. |
| 21:09:44 | linuxstb | preglow: Then when do you load it? |
| 21:10:17 | preglow | i guess my policy of never using the "insert" commands make me see things somewhat differently than most... |
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| 21:10:30 | Nico_P | lostlogic: I haven't looked at the patch long enough, but the static buffer seems to be the WPS imgae buffer in the current state |
| 21:11:08 | lostlogic | Nico_P: yeah, but it's used as the resize target and then recopied back to the filebuffer. |
| 21:11:27 | Nico_P | true, that's not good |
| 21:11:43 | Nico_P | it's easy to know how much buffer space will be required |
| 21:12:08 | Nico_P | lostlogic: want to whip something up? I'm cooking dinner for myself right now |
| 21:12:13 | lostlogic | yeah, exactly −− just needs a short calculation and we'd need to put a function in |
| 21:12:23 | lostlogic | which maybe one day could be used for ealier stripoping of trailing tags |
| 21:12:28 | lostlogic | haha, can't, at work |
| 21:12:30 | lostlogic | would belong to amazon if I did :) |
| 21:14:13 | preglow | but, no, i've yet to find a single cue file album that plays out of the box in rockbox |
| 21:14:16 | preglow | which is kind of annoying |
| 21:14:48 | linuxstb | Because of the name, or other issues? |
| 21:14:56 | preglow | name |
| 21:15:00 | preglow | they work fine with that out of the deal |
| 21:15:07 | preglow | surprisingly good, as a matter of fact |
| 21:15:23 | linuxstb | I really don't see the problem - I would probably want to rename anyway, to keep things tidy. |
| 21:15:32 | preglow | i don't see anything tidy about it |
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| 21:15:46 | preglow | "tidy" to me is downloading and listening |
| 21:16:04 | * | amiconn would call that messy ... |
| 21:16:04 | linuxstb | I always tidy things I download - fixing tags, using my own naming conventions etc. |
| 21:16:25 | amiconn | Me too |
| 21:16:32 | preglow | i tidy stuff i create myself, i have long since given up tidying other people's stuff |
| 21:16:35 | Nico_P | same here |
| 21:16:35 | preglow | so now i don't touch it at all |
| 21:17:18 | Nico_P | amiconn: btw, LinusN said he was fine with you sending me his video... do you think you could do that? |
| 21:18:13 | gevaerts | Zagor: I updated the patch in FS #8562. I can mount the device in full speed (read-only), but it fails once I try to do anything with it. The problem is that linux tries to read too much at once, and I'm not really sure how to handle that (returning an error doesn't work, and neither does just returning what we have) |
| 21:18:47 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "too much" ? |
| 21:19:20 | gevaerts | linuxstb: the controller on the sansa can handle 16k transfers, while linux asks for 64k of data at once |
| 21:20:22 | preglow | wtf |
| 21:20:30 | preglow | suddenly the backlight went on on my h120 |
| 21:20:35 | preglow | then didn't turn off until i touched a key |
| 21:21:02 | rasher | preglow: it wanted you to touch it |
| 21:21:10 | * | JdGordon|w 's sansa has done that before also |
| 21:21:28 | preglow | rasher: well, i'll just take that as proof it's got a soul then |
| 21:21:33 | preglow | i'll have to be careful what i do in front of it |
| 21:21:42 | Horscht | it doesn't have a soul |
| 21:21:46 | Horscht | it's possessed |
| 21:21:58 | JdGordon|w | its a bit hard to be possessed without a soul |
| 21:22:03 | preglow | as long as it doesn't start twisting and vomiting i'm ok with that |
| 21:22:43 | Horscht | no, it's actually not. Souls do not exist. They were made up by scientology |
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| 21:23:31 | Nico_P | it was touched by His Noodly Appendage! |
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| 21:26:27 | linuxstb | gevaerts: If you use dd to try and read data (less than 16KB), does the kernel still do a 64KB read? |
| 21:26:46 | gevaerts | linuxstb: yes. |
| 21:27:13 | gevaerts | linuxstb: well, not always a 64k read, but it seems to do some kind of readahead |
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| 21:28:17 | Nico_P | gevaerts: do you know how the OF handles this? (if it might be helpful) |
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| 21:30:09 | gevaerts | Nico_P: no idea. I'll try to find out (maybe not today, I don't have a real usb tracer here, and I find the usbmon output hard to read) |
| 21:30:10 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Is the "lsusb -v" output the same in Rockbox and the OF? |
| 21:34:45 | gevaerts | linuxstb: the differences don't look significant to me |
| 21:38:59 | gevaerts | The OF apparently manages to respond with all requested data, but I'm not sure if it is in one USB transfer or not (I can't figure this out from the usbmon output in wireshark). I suspect that it is one transfer, because I tried multiple transfers and that didn't work. So now we have to find out how to do transfers with more than 16k. |
| 21:39:45 | preglow | 16k should be enough for everybody |
| 21:39:48 | preglow | we support .sid now, after all :) |
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| 21:41:47 | gevaerts | Maybe chaining transfer descriptors does what we want |
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| 22:05:23 | Nico_P | amiconn: seen my question? |
| 22:06:48 | linuxstb | rasher: I've just noticed your missing AA logging patch (FS #8479) - do you still think it's a good idea (better than a PC-side script)? |
| 22:09:05 | rasher | linuxstb: Probably not, to be honest, the script would just have to understand all sorts of metadata to be "complete" |
| 22:09:37 | linuxstb | Ah yes, I forgot Rockbox searched based on tags... |
| 22:09:51 | linuxstb | What about a plugin? |
| 22:10:08 | rasher | Probably more likely to work |
| 22:10:16 | Nico_P | a plugin sounds like a good idea, yes |
| 22:10:25 | rasher | Or you could base it on the db and the pythontagdb thing |
| 22:11:09 | linuxstb | Thinking about it, maybe a plugin would be helpful to debug metadata problems in general. |
| 22:11:18 | linuxstb | (as in files that prevent the db from building) |
| 22:12:30 | Zagor | gevaerts: excellent progress! |
| 22:13:19 | gevaerts | Zagor: just these small remaining details... |
| 22:13:27 | * | scorche|w spies a Zagor |
| 22:13:49 | Zagor | gevaerts: yeah well it's still a great step forward |
| 22:14:19 | scorche|w | Zagor: think we could work an implementation of http://svnlogbrowser.org/ into the site?...looks pretty nice and the creator is a rockboxer :) |
| 22:14:31 | | Part lids |
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| 22:16:57 | Zagor | scorche|w: Yeah I suppose we could |
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| 22:17:29 | scorche|w | get rid of those massive "since ever" links too :) |
| 22:17:40 | Nico_P | scorche|w: who's the author? |
| 22:18:07 | scorche|w | Nico_P: a friend of mine....rockboxer as in user |
| 22:18:26 | Nico_P | ah right |
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| 22:20:25 | linuxstb | scorche|w: It displays a lot of nice info, but I don't like the style/layout of the pages... Is it themable? |
| 22:26:12 | scorche|w | linuxstb: not too advanced, apaprently, but there are basic templates |
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| 22:27:35 | scorche|w | it uses the same template code as phpbb uses (or used to use...not sure) |
| 22:27:47 | scorche|w | what did you want to change specifically? |
| 22:28:45 | scorche|w | http://svn.svnlogbrowser.org/trunk/frontend/index.tpl |
| 22:30:12 | linuxstb | I guess I'm just used to the Rockbox presentation of changes - the four columns (when, who, where, what), and find it harder to follow the svnlogbrowser presentation. |
| 22:30:17 | * | Nico_P just added smooth scaling to the core and there is a rather massive binsize hit: almost 4.5K |
| 22:31:10 | JdGordon|w | oh noes! |
| 22:31:13 | bluebrother | ouch. |
| 22:31:24 | linuxstb | Does it have any other uses, apart from AA? |
| 22:31:25 | p3tur | amiconn: regarding the remote peakmeters, I added a patch to 8514. Care to comment? |
| 22:31:32 | Zagor | linuxstb: I agree with you. but svnlogbrowser has some nifty interactive features such as looking at all commits from specific people etc. |
| 22:31:47 | Nico_P | linuxstb: it can be used in sliding_puzzle |
| 22:31:49 | Bagder | and search |
| 22:31:52 | bluebrother | I wouldn't want to loose the commit summary on the front page |
| 22:31:57 | linuxstb | Zagor: Yes, that's what I mean - I want the Rockbox layout and those features... |
| 22:32:05 | Zagor | bluebrother: no, me neither |
| 22:32:22 | bluebrother | but it would be a nice addon |
| 22:32:45 | linuxstb | Nico_P: But that's a plugin, so no reason to add it to the core... |
| 22:32:50 | * | Nico_P wants to see rev numbers on the front page, and not just in the link targets |
| 22:33:10 | Nico_P | linuxstb: yeah, the only reason to add it to the core would be AA |
| 22:33:15 | linuxstb | Nico_P: Do you have a patch? |
| 22:33:21 | Nico_P | yes |
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| 22:34:55 | Nico_P | linuxstb: http://pastebin.ca/894333 |
| 22:37:33 | linuxstb | It looks like it could be size-optimised quite a lot - there's a lot of duplicated code there... |
| 22:38:19 | linuxstb | Also, do we need both up and down scaling? |
| 22:39:01 | Nico_P | I think so |
| 22:39:57 | linuxstb | I've never found cover-art smaller than the size I would want to use it at - 500x500 seems to be more or less standard. |
| 22:40:37 | preglow | aren't the vertical and horizontal code paths special cases of the vert/horiz one? |
| 22:43:25 | Nico_P | linuxstb: I think it's better to allow people to use the files they already have |
| 22:45:17 | bluebrother | if you download AA from amazon (like amarok does) you can get quite small images. |
| 22:45:58 | pixelma | if you already have to upscale for a album art size of say 100x100 I wouldn't try to get a better picture anyways |
| 22:46:09 | pixelma | eh.. *would |
| 22:46:19 | * | bluebrother does too |
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| 22:46:47 | bluebrother | but I guess quite some people would be fine with small images and complain if they don't get upscaled |
| 22:47:50 | _StefaN^ | hi |
| 22:48:11 | _StefaN^ | I have a question regarding x5l rockbox build |
| 22:48:28 | _StefaN^ | anyone around I could direct this question to? :) |
| 22:48:36 | Bagder | _StefaN^: just ask |
| 22:48:42 | pixelma | I prepared a few 40x40 cover.bmps to play with album art in my c200 WPS, which get upscaled in sliding_puzzle and so blurry that they are pretty much unusable |
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| 22:49:12 | _StefaN^ | ok its about Clix theme for X5 |
| 22:49:14 | _StefaN^ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#clix |
| 22:49:16 | _StefaN^ | this one |
| 22:49:45 | _StefaN^ | I downloaded the required build from http://rockbox.webhop.org/ and the theme (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIaudioX5/Clix.zip) |
| 22:50:05 | Bagder | that would be an unsupported build then... |
| 22:50:05 | _StefaN^ | but when I load it on my x5 it doesnt look anywhere near like it should :( |
| 22:50:25 | _StefaN^ | hmm, your right |
| 22:50:36 | _StefaN^ | sorry, forgot it was a custom build |
| 22:50:41 | _StefaN^ | my bad |
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| 22:51:09 | Davide-NYC | has anyone seen this ZIF to 1.8" IDE adapter? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10887 |
| 22:51:13 | _StefaN^ | but is there a way to load that theme on the current, official rockbox build? |
| 22:51:29 | Bagder | _StefaN^: try it out |
| 22:51:42 | Bagder | or adapt the wps file as necessary |
| 22:52:30 | _StefaN^ | most of those themes have 'Themes require updates with latest builds!! See album art page for instructions.' |
| 22:53:01 | _StefaN^ | I've tried that art page but I dont even know what I'm looking for (as funny as it may sound) |
| 22:53:25 | scorche|w | Zagor: we could always have it as an additional page rather than replacing the current method immediately...then when someone bothers to make it look a bit more like our style we could do a quick change |
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| 23:02:37 | p3tur | seems storebror has a full disk |
| 23:03:28 | * | p3tur pings Bagder |
| 23:03:30 | Bagder | oops |
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| 23:08:11 | pixelma | wouldn't that be Zagor :) |
| 23:08:37 | p3tur | is it? I keep forgetting the names ;) |
| 23:09:34 | Bagder | no, storebror is mine |
| 23:09:44 | Bagder | as I am storebror to Zagor |
| 23:10:27 | pixelma | oh, I always thought it was the other way round (but never knew numbers) |
| 23:10:42 | pixelma | sorry :) |
| 23:10:45 | Bagder | hehe |
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| 23:11:34 | cg | need more build servers? i would have one here... |
| 23:11:55 | Bagder | we always need more! |
| 23:13:03 | cg | okay, i would have everything else setup, except missing acbuild.pl and keyfile |
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| 23:13:44 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/acbuild.txt http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rbclient-authorized_keys2 |
| 23:14:11 | Bagder | you need to rename the script, set execution rights and very the PATH and make -j options within it |
| 23:14:19 | Bagder | verify even |
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| 23:20:42 | cg | Bagder: done. the ssh file should be ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ? |
| 23:21:23 | Bagder | ~rbclient/.ssh/authorized_keys2 |
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| 23:21:50 | Bagder | build server will connect from 91.191.140.131 |
| 23:21:56 | rasher | I've never seen authorized_keys2 |
| 23:22:02 | cg | Bagder: okay |
| 23:22:14 | Bagder | rasher: then look now ;-) |
| 23:22:58 | Bagder | "The authorized_keys2 file has been deprecated since the OpenSSH 3.0 release (2001)." |
| 23:23:01 | Bagder | ;-) |
| 23:23:08 | Bagder | I'm stuck in the dark ages |
| 23:23:40 | cg | Bagder: the host is jakorasia.info |
| 23:24:13 | Bagder | cg: all compilers and sdl installed? |
| 23:24:18 | cg | yup |
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| 23:24:31 | Bagder | no zip though... |
| 23:25:27 | cg | Bagder: now has zip |
| 23:25:33 | Bagder | goodie |
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| 23:26:59 | Bagder | server added! |
| 23:27:25 | cg | yay :) |
| 23:27:31 | Bagder | thanks |
| 23:28:04 | cg | now somebody commit something :) |
| 23:29:53 | * | Bagder also added one of JdGordon's machines |
| 23:30:35 | linuxstb_ | Is anything known about the Rockchip CPUs? |
| 23:31:02 | Bagder | I don't think a lot is known, no |
| 23:31:40 | pixelma | I think markun tried to find some info, but I could be confusing that |
| 23:31:54 | * | linuxstb_ found the forum thread |
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| 23:45:29 | carlosp | hey guys |
| 23:45:48 | carlosp | a little qustion about rockbox |
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| 23:46:28 | carlosp | are there any plans to change the database features of rockbox, something more ipod like and real "auto update" funktion |
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| 23:47:36 | csc` | define 'ipod like' carlosp |
| 23:48:25 | soap | the irony is the iPod itself doesn't update its database - it uses the PC side program iTunes to do the database building and updating. |
| 23:49:04 | * | linuxstb wonders what's wrong with Rockbox's auto-update function |
| 23:49:12 | vorwarts | i lraedy know that toshiba gigabeat u-202 is not currently supported by rockbox. just checking if anyone here has bought this crap and can manage to run it somehow through virtualization. thanks |
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| 23:50:23 | scorche|w | vorwarts: well, this is an on-topic channel.. |
| 23:50:31 | Lars_G | I'm (La)TeX dissabled... what do I need to have around to be able to build the pdf manuals? if you speak it in ubuntuese-debs much better |
| 23:50:43 | carlosp | well usually, i have auto update enabled, it does not really update |
| 23:51:02 | pixelma | Lars_G: already tried http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main//ManualHowto ? |
| 23:51:14 | Lars_G | pixelma: Nope. and thanks |
| 23:51:39 | preglow | Lars_G: installing texlive should do, afaik |
| 23:52:01 | stripwax | carlosp - in what way does it not really upadte |
| 23:52:10 | stripwax | ^update. Have you found a bug? |
| 23:52:23 | carlosp | the database does not show the new songs which are added |
| 23:52:38 | carlosp | it does not delete the ones i have already removed |
| 23:52:46 | pixelma | preglow, Lars_G: that page mentions the old names of the packages but I've been told you'll get automatically linked |
| 23:52:48 | * | BigBambi still wonders what "ipod like" means |
| 23:52:59 | linuxstb | carlosp: Have you read this section of the manual? http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-450004.2.2 |
| 23:53:17 | carlosp | and it shows no songs in menu points like "most recent" or "forgetten favs" and so on |
| 23:53:40 | stripwax | carlosp - in particular the part that says "Note: The Auto Update will only check for deleted files if the Directory Cache (Settings -> General Settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory Cache) is enabled. Update now includes that check whether dircache has been enabled or not. " |
| 23:53:48 | * | scorche|w discovers that work has now blocked download.rockbox.org |
| 23:53:59 | preglow | pixelma: looks like it, for now, but that should be changed, of course |
| 23:54:09 | * | preglow can't be bothered to do so now |
| 23:54:30 | Lars_G | Plus you need to restart the device to reload the database once you've done changes |
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| 23:54:57 | carlosp | oh ok :) |
| 23:55:01 | carlosp | i will check now |
| 23:55:01 | linuxstb | ^_cleanly_ restart (not reset with MENU+SELECT) |
| 23:55:20 | pixelma | "most recent" and the like only work with "gather runtime data" enabled |
| 23:55:38 | * | linuxstb wonders if more of these options should be enabled by default |
| 23:55:50 | Lars_G | Well there are two things of the sansa I dislike but for the rest it's a great device |
| 23:55:51 | * | preglow too |
| 23:56:09 | rasher | stripwax: I thought that limitation was removed? |
| 23:56:10 | Lars_G | linuxstb: I always saw their off state as remmants from the beta days of the database |
| 23:56:26 | stripwax | rasher - if that's true then the manual is wrong |
| 23:56:31 | linuxstb | "off by default" seems to be how all new features are implemented... |
| 23:56:43 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Yes but this one lingered |
| 23:56:54 | linuxstb | That's my point - they all linger. |
| 23:56:58 | pixelma | stripwax: wouldn |
| 23:57:02 | stripwax | ? |
| 23:57:06 | pixelma | 't make me wonder |
| 23:57:09 | magenpie | i just can't figure out how to get the voice recording to work...i was helped this morning and got it once |
| 23:57:27 | pixelma | (that the manual is wrong/outdated) |
| 23:57:33 | rasher | It also seem odd to me that you can turn runtimedb on and off.. seems like something that should just be on, always |
| 23:57:47 | rasher | The fact that it's a separate system shouldn't matter to the user |
| 23:58:08 | linuxstb | Presumably there's some cost to enabling it? |
| 23:58:08 | vorwarts | scorche|w: just checking if anyone could point me out some sort of workaround. all in all, rockbox is the only linux project building drivers for gigabeat models |
| 23:58:33 | linuxstb | Rockbox isn't a linux project... |
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