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#rockbox log for 2008-02-13

00:00:27Nico_Plostlogic: the only potential problem I see with this is that it interrupts buffer_handle each time a handle is added
00:00:27JdGordon|wis it possible that the disk access on the e200 can happen completly before the statusbar can be updated so the icon isnt shown? iirc the status bar is updated HZ/10 in the menus...
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00:00:53gevaertsbertrik: that's actually not too bad I think. The Interface Descriptor test is my fault. I assumed we didn't need that. Halt Endpoint is not implemented but shouldn't be too hard, and other speed is easy.
00:02:04gevaertsbertrik: for the MSC tests : the latest patch supports serial numbers, and it says you aborted all others.
00:02:14lostlogicNico_P: it's a quick bounce, calculate the code path, should only be about 20 instructions
00:02:30bertrikgevaerts: those are old tests from november...
00:02:39Nico_Plostlogic: yeah, shouldn't be much of a problem
00:03:37gevaertsbertrik: ok. I'm blind...
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00:10:12bertrikNo idea why all tests fail, the USBCV does find the sansa on the bus so at least the device descriptor can be fetched, I'll try some more tomorrow
00:10:16asdrubalhoe long does a db update usually take on a 2gb sansa?
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00:11:50gevaertsbertrik: Don't spend too much time on it. Do they say anything at all ?
00:13:30linuxstbgevaerts: He left...
00:14:10*gevaerts thinks bertrik has the right idea
00:14:22gevaertslinuxstb: I noticed.
00:15:13gevaertslinuxstb: I plan to run the tests for myself tomorrow anyway.
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00:18:52kugelNico_P: Have you ever looked at the albumart-smooth_resize* patches?
00:19:00*gevaerts goes to sleep as well, before any new issue comes up to keep him awake for three more hours
00:19:06Nico_Pkugel: I have a few days ago
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00:19:23Nico_Phaven't looked at the latest version though
00:19:50kugelit might be my limited C knowledge, but the later versions doesn't look good to me
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00:20:29Nico_Pkugel: why?
00:20:51IngenAningI am trying to compile the rockboxutility, but when i run qmake in the rbutilqt directory, i just get a general qmake help
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00:21:36IngenAningThe guide says "Then you run the command qmake and then make in the rbutilqt folder"
00:21:36kugelif I understand it correctly, he introduces a function get_bmp_size to get the size of the bmp. Doesn't read_bmp_fd do that allready?
00:22:14kugelI haven't looked very much in the bmp.[ch] code though
00:23:15Nico_Pkugel: yes, read_bmp_fd gets you the size, but also does much more. It's not suited for when you only want to know the size
00:23:53kugelah, that makes sense
00:25:03kugelShouldn't the size of the albumart be allready stored somewhere?
00:27:14Nico_Pdepends what albumart you're talking about
00:27:25kugelthe non-resized of coursed
00:28:05Nico_Pwhere would the size of that be stored?
00:28:09kugelit's loaded with or without albumart_resize
00:28:34kugelNico_P: I don't know, but the size is needed, since it's loaded into the buffer, isn't it?
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00:30:24preglowIngenAning: you can run qmake in the rbutil directory, i think
00:30:32preglowi just did it, works fine
00:31:01preglowas long as there's a .pro file there, it means you can run qmake
00:31:24kugelIngenAning: just run qmake once (it should return 1 line, not interesting). Now run make and it should compile
00:31:54IngenAningCan someone help with the rockbox utility? I clicked "complete installation", then for some reason it thinks i already have the bootloader, but this is my first time running it.. then it fails if i say to install it anyway, and if i skip the step, the download fails (it reports "received HTPP error n" where n is an arbitrary number, because it changes each time i try)
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00:32:40Nico_Pkugel: the bitmap that ends up in the buffer is the resized one
00:33:03pixelmaIngenAning: which rbutil version are you running?
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00:33:47kugelNico_P: I've looked into the patch, and it looked to me like both were loaded into the bufffer
00:33:52kugelcorrect me if I'm wrong
00:34:08IngenAningversion m1.0.2 / r15191
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00:35:17Nico_Pkugel: when a resize is needed, the original bmp is loaded to the WPS image buffer, then the resize is called with a destination bitmap that is in the audio buffer (i.e. MoB)
00:35:25kugelNico_P: Should buffering.c change at all? I imagine that the buffering stays the same, just the bmp sent to the buffer is another
00:35:51pixelmaIngenAning: the "complete installation" in that version has a bug, try installing bootloader and build seperately (I think someone said yesterday that it is on a different tab, never tried myself)
00:36:04kugelI think I begin to get it
00:36:07Nico_Pthe function he changes in buffering.c is the one that handles loading a bitmap. I agree it should be moved elsewhere but it's not very easy
00:36:29*n1s would like to commit FS #8567 tomorrow and want to hear any complaints before, it basically means that gcc is required to build manuals and "make manual" must be used to make the regular pdf manuals.
00:37:00Nico_Pthe resize patch is really starting to look good to me... I should consider commiting it soon
00:37:39kugelNico_P: but w/o the smooth scaling, right?
00:37:54Nico_Pno, with smooth scaling. It's not much use without it
00:38:07IngenAningFor "select your device in the file system" −− is this the mount point, or something in /dev ?
00:38:15Nico_PI already have a patch that cleanly adds smooth scaling to the core
00:38:21kugelI heard it increases the bin size by 4KiB
00:38:52kugelI believe you told that. Could you clean it up? Cool
00:38:52Nico_Pit does, but last I heard it still was a wanted feature (and the binsize hit apparently can be reduced a bit)
00:38:56*preglow wonders how much core jpeg decoding will add
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00:44:01pixelman1s: is it normal that when compiling the manual with the patch it complaints about missing config.h and button.h somewhere in the beginning? I get a pdf though in the end
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00:45:16pixelmabut a nice side effect, you don't get the complaint with "make manual"
00:45:25n1spixelma: no it shouldn't do that, did you rerun configure?
00:45:42pixelmahumm... no, just a "make clean"
00:45:50n1sah, try that then
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00:46:36n1sThe include paths were to the manual dir to make a regular "make" build a manual in a slightly hacky way...
00:46:54n1sI had to change them back to get those header files
00:48:16n1s<builddir>/manual/feature.tex should tell you if everything works.
00:49:43jac0bon SVN I am getting this error "svn: Decompression of svndiff data failed"
00:50:16pixelman1s: ok, that fixed it and features.tex looks good :)
00:50:43jac0bshould I just retry?
00:51:54kugelNico_P: Correct me if I'm wrong! The latest albumart-smooth_resize calculates the size of the source bmp in bmp.c, it calculates the size of the resized bmp in albumart.c, and the final resizing is done in buffering.c
00:52:20Nico_Pkugel: and?
00:52:38kugelthat doesn't make much sense to me :/
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00:53:16kugelFor me it would make more sense, if the size of resized bmp would calculated after resizing with the same function the source bmp size was calculated
00:53:26Nico_Pputting the func that calculates the size of a bitmap in bmp.c makes perfect sense. Where you then use it doesn't matter in the least
00:53:27kugeland buffering would stay the same
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00:54:33kugelNico_P: the extra function for calculating the resized bmp is not needed imo
00:54:35Nico_Pkugel: why would we need to calculate the size of the resized bmp? we know it, since we decide which size we want it to be
00:54:49Nico_Pand we need to know which size to resize to
00:55:21kugelNico_P: size in terms of bytes
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00:56:18kugelwe have to know the size (bytes) of the resized bmp before resizing?
00:56:56Nico_Pyes. to know whether we have enough space to store it.
00:58:01kugelenough space?
00:58:37Nico_Pin memory, yes
00:59:15Nico_Pwe can't just write the resized bitmap and hope for the best. plus get_albumart_size also tells us which size to resize to
01:01:18kugelI think I got something wrong then
01:02:08kugelI allways thought the space for the album art is fixed, i.e. the size of a bmp with max supported dimensions
01:02:35kugelBut, I haven't looked too deep in the code yet, so I might have missed it
01:02:59Nico_Pno. that's an old approach. now it's stored in the audio buffer, since it was committed MoB
01:03:17Nico_P*with* MoB
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01:04:25kugelyea, I'm aware of that
01:05:02kugelbut I wasn't aware of that that the size must be known before buffering
01:05:03Nico_Pso I don't understand what you were thinking, with the fixed dims
01:05:19Nico_Pyou should look at the SVN albumart handling code
01:05:24kugelmust be known exactly
01:05:58Nico_Pit would be a huge waste to just allocate the max possible size
01:06:38kugelI looked into albumart.c and I couldn't find where the size is calculated
01:07:16kugelanyway, thanks for clarification
01:07:16Nico_Pload_bitmap (in buffering.c) just writes the bitmap to the audio buffer and then says "I just wrote X bytes to the buffer"
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01:09:19Nico_Pso it doesn't really need to know the size beforehand. but in the patch we do in order to know if we need to resize
01:09:46kugelsee, that was my point
01:10:31kugelBut I understand, that the size should be known before with resizing, in order to not waste cpu time on resizing
01:10:42IngenAningIs there a way, if i am playing an entire album, that i can go from "track view" to album view? like.. to see my progression through the album, so i see a list of tracks, with the current track hilighted
01:11:27Nico_PIngenAning: are you playing the album from the database of from the filetree?
01:11:49kugelno wait. You need to know the size before resizing in "order know if we need to resize"?
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01:12:56Nico_Pkugel: yes. you need to know the size of the bitmap file you have (with get_bmp_size), and the size it needs to be displayed as (with get_albumart_size)
01:13:14kugelI thought the dimensions of the album art file and the dimensions in the wps tell us if we need to resize, and not the size of the resized bmp
01:13:21IngenAningNico_P: database
01:14:06kugelsize in terms of bytes
01:14:36Nico_Psize in bytes and in pixels are very much the same
01:15:08Nico_PIngenAning: AFAIK it's not possible in the DB
01:15:19Nico_Pfrom the tree it would be "follow playlist"
01:15:33kugelSo you compare the size in bytes to determine if resize is needed?
01:15:35IngenAningso what is the different between the tree and database?
01:15:48IngenAningalso for some reason, all of the files that i thought i deleted are still in the database..
01:15:57IngenAningsongs rather
01:16:23kugelIngenAning: database uses id3-tags, tree uses filenames
01:16:33Nico_Pkugel: no. you look at the size in pixels. but you also need to know the size in bytes to see if there is enough memory to store it
01:16:54kugelyou said you need to know the size in bytes to know if resize is neede
01:17:43Nico_PI wasn't talking about the size in bytes, although we do need to know about that one too
01:17:55Nico_Pget_albumart_size tells us both
01:19:13Nico_Pkugel: I think you need to look at the patch more closely. I'm not saying there are no mistakes, but the principle looks sound to mle
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01:21:36kugelit's quite confusing for me at the moment
01:21:44kugelI mean our talk
01:23:13kugelyou said, as of now we don't need to know the size (in bytes) of the album art ("it doesn't really need to know the size beforehand"). But know it does? and even before resizing?
01:23:30kugelbut know it does means with resizng
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01:25:06kugeluh, "But know it does?" should read "But with resizing it does?" actually
01:25:08Nico_Pin current SVN, read_bmp_fd is told how much free space there is, and will take care of not writing more than that. It will only succed if it has enough to write the whole bitmap
01:25:49Nico_Pwith the resizing version, we need to do the check ourselves before calling the resizing func
01:26:08Nico_Pbecause that function will just blindly write what it has to
01:26:57kugelah, so the check is preferred anyway, it's just not implemented in SVN?
01:27:15Nico_Pit is. but it's in read_bmp_fd
01:27:28Nico_Ponly we don't use that when we reisze
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01:28:19kugelI don't see where the current svn checks before writing
01:29:06asdrubalany sansa users here?
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01:29:18Nico_Pin buffering.c:844 we calculate how much free space the audio buffer has. in 845 we call read_bmp_fd with that value. read_bmp_fd will fail if the bitmap is too big
01:29:34asdrubalWhen I put music into a folder other than <sansa_disk>/music/ it will become corrupted
01:29:53Nico_Pkugel: the "free" veriable
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01:30:00kugeloh it will fail
01:31:03asdrubalIs there a way to add a chess opening book to the chessbox app ?
01:31:15kugelI read this lines just now, and I thought it's just in order to have the return value stating the correct value of bytes that have been written. I didn't know that read_bmp_fd will actually fail, and thus load_bmp too
01:31:39Nico_Pthat's what I've been trying to say
01:31:41kugelNico_P: thank you, I think I got it
01:32:04efexpeehow do i transfer songs to ipod without having to delete everything in ipod
01:32:24Nico_Pefexpee: just add them where you want
01:32:28kugelNico_P: if you told me earlier that read_bmp_fd will fail
01:32:43Nico_P[01:25] <Nico_P> in current SVN, read_bmp_fd is told how much free space there is, and will take care of not writing more than that. It will only succed if it has enough to write the whole bitmap
01:33:26kugelI got this sentence wrong
01:33:55kugelI read read_bmp_fd will tell us how much space the bmp will need
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01:34:25kugelAnyway, great that you helped me out.
01:34:33Nico_Pyou're welcome ;)
01:34:38*Nico_P should get to bed now
01:34:58kugelNico_P: Same here, but I couldn't sleep without this issue cleared ;)
01:35:10Nico_Phehe I know the feeling
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01:36:04kugelI'm a coder at all. I just need more C experience and get to know rockbox source better.
01:36:37kugelbut actually, I had no idea of C at all 4 month ago. rockbox is teaching me
01:36:47Nico_PI started the same way a few years ago
01:37:13Nico_Pfor learning the source code I recommend using an IDE that can take you to the definition of a symbol or show you call graphs
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01:37:28kugelcool, looks like you're the jedi and i am the padawan
01:37:42Nico_PI use kscope (basically kate with cscope)
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01:38:00kugelnever used a IDE actually
01:38:09kugelsounds like a good idea though.
01:38:21kugelHowever, kate's bugging me quite a lot.
01:39:05Nico_Pyou can use cscope in vim and probably emacs, but I don't know how well it is integrated. also maybe there is a similar gnome app
01:39:18Nico_Pthe advantage of kscope is that it was built around cscope
01:39:40kugeljust installed it
01:40:32*Nico_P goes to bed
01:40:39kugelgood night
01:40:43Nico_Pthanks :)
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01:51:52IngenAningSo where do i put my music on my new rockbox device, and how do i put it there?
01:53:56krazykitwherever you want and however you want.
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02:24:18IngenAningif i enabled support, how does it sync up?
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02:26:56soapmight I recommend QTScrobbler?
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03:17:35EsotericWispI AM SUING YOU ALL
03:18:22EsotericWispUNLESS YOU CAN HELP
03:18:33scorcherockbox doesnt even work ont he ipod touch..and please stop using caps
03:20:03EsotericWispno dip it dosent work. it killed my ipod touch
03:20:14scorcheand how would it do that?
03:21:11EsotericWispI transferred the files but when it started it said that rockbox had a memory error on sector 0000000000001
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03:21:50JdGordonoh noes! they gfigured out im lieing.. i better dc!
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03:23:37scorcheEsotericWisp: what you are saying is impossible...the bootloader simply cant be installed on the touch
03:23:54EsotericWispI am still suing
03:23:58DBUGEnqueued KICK EsotericWisp
03:23:58JdGordongo for it
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03:24:21EsotericWispare you sure.
03:24:40JdGordonwe'll glady refund your money
03:24:58JdGordonand considering your lieing youll lose the case anyway
03:25:30EsotericWispNo. i am serious. it half booted and then failed
03:25:46scorcheno, you are you done yet?
03:25:49JdGordonno your lieing... its im[possible to run any rockbox code on a touch
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03:26:09scorcheunless you figured out how...we would love to know
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03:26:39EsotericWispYOU ALL SUCK
03:26:44JdGordonok, so take a photo of your touch with this mystieries error
03:27:23EsotericWisplet me go get my camera...
03:28:04Davide-NYCGentlemen, I have here an iHP-120 with a Compact Flash card in it.
03:28:15countrymonkeyWhat is it about the language he is using?
03:28:34JdGordonDavide-NYC: nice :)
03:28:37countrymonkeyI didn't know that ihp-120s had cf card slots.
03:28:47Davide-NYCIt mounts as a USB drive on my windos machine, but gives me an ATA -80 error
03:28:59Davide-NYCwhen booting to Rockbox
03:29:01JdGordonthe ata init is probably different?
03:29:23Davide-NYCI know nothing of these things and was hoping for a quick assist.
03:29:24JdGordonisnt there a patch to get CF working with ipods? you may have to use that or similar
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03:30:09countrymonkeyI hate to ask, but I feel 8496 is niglected. It fixes a spelling mistake.
03:30:26countrymonkeyIt is on the wiki's MiniCF topic.
03:32:00countrymonkeyAnd 8359 should be closed; it was superceded by another patch commit.
03:32:22JdGordonDavide-NYC: looks like a simple enough patch... although im guessing there is more to it that that
03:32:29JdGordonwhere did you get the adaptor?
03:32:40Davide-NYCJdGordon: fleabay
03:33:11Davide-NYCther is also this little nugget which has my attention.
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03:40:14Davide-NYCConfused (as always)... shouldn't I remove the entire sleep portion of the ata.c file?
03:40:27EsotericWispOk i got it. how do I submit it
03:40:33EsotericWispthe picture
03:41:38advlaptop2019EsotericWisp, you use your own host and paste the link here
03:41:41XavierGrEsotericWisp: use an image host service and tell us the link
03:41:45Davide-NYCJdGordon: the patch modifies ata.c with the following: #if !defined(IPOD_NANO) && !defined(IPOD_MINI) && !defined(IPOD_MINI2G)
03:42:15JdGordonDavide-NYC: dunno... try it and see what happens
03:42:38JdGordonfinding out what ATA -80 is would probably be a good start
03:42:47Davide-NYCwell, to me that IF ends up being TRUE for my iRiver H120 and the rest of that code execute...
03:43:06Davide-NYCwhere would I look for a definition of ATA -80?
03:43:31JdGordongoogle, its probably a generic value, not rockbox specific
03:44:06Davide-NYCthat's what google give (LOL)
03:44:31*Davide-NYC waiting for make
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03:44:43countrymonkeyEsotericWisp: is a good host
03:45:10JdGordonEsotericWisp: seriously.. how stupid do you think we are?
03:45:12scorchehahaha....a build from 2005?
03:45:41EsotericWispVERY stupid
03:45:56countrymonkeywhat's all the fun? I'm blind so cannot see the pic
03:46:00JdGordonyour not the same guy who brought us HFS+ support are you?
03:46:02Davide-NYCIt doesn't even line up. No attempt to perspective correct.
03:46:26scorcheEsotericWisp: so now that we have had our laughs, are you done here, or must i shoo you away?
03:46:30EsotericWispMy cammera is a little buggy...
03:46:44EsotericWispand make me lleave
03:46:52EsotericWispi dare you
03:46:54*JdGordon has no idea what target that is a photo of..
03:46:56Mode"#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
03:46:58Davide-NYCTotally amateur fake cut'n'paste photochop job.
03:47:01Kick(#rockbox EsotericWisp :Kick!) by scorche!i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche
03:47:10Davide-NYCthanks scorche
03:47:16XavierGrthat was brilliant though it made my night :)
03:47:23JdGordonthats going to GoldenQuotes
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03:48:10Davide-NYCpost the pic to the page too!
03:48:34countrymonkeyHere he comes again...
03:48:52soapwhat target is that photo from?
03:48:53scorchewell, of was only a kick..
03:49:06countrymonkeyipod touch
03:49:06soapOr was it stretched before horribly edited?
03:49:09EsotericWispit was gimp btw
03:49:22scorcheEsotericWisp: are you going to behave now?
03:49:28EsotericWispand the photo was frim an ipod nano
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03:49:52EsotericWispand I think it is a pretty good job
03:49:56JdGordoncant be a nano
03:50:09countrymonkeyI've met my match as far as weird people.
03:50:13*scorche awaits an answer
03:50:28JdGordonthats the only colour target from 05
03:50:47countrymonkeyEsotericWisp what is the disk size?
03:50:59EsotericWisp8 gb−−-
03:51:34EsotericWispAnd i wont leave untill 7 people compliment my work
03:51:40JdGordonyour a moron
03:51:43JdGordongo away
03:51:47scorcheis that a "no, i wont behave"?
03:52:02EsotericWispno that is a i want reconition
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03:52:41countrymonkeyget him scorche! hell yeh :)
03:52:42XavierGrEsotericWisp: you've won a place in the golden quote page that's for sure
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03:54:36countrymonkeyWhat do these lines mean when the say, "*** mode/#rockbox [+b %*!*42f95557@*] by scorche"?
03:54:54Davide-NYCGuys... I need help here for one sec. I applied the ata.c patch and still have this ATA error -80 problem. I presume that I need to modify ata.c starting at line 909.
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03:58:04Davide-NYCLine 909 says #ifndef IPOD_NANO ... if I wanted to add the H120 what would I write?
04:00:44Davide-NYCor I can just delete that chunk of code. (crosses fingers)
04:02:33XavierGrDavide-NYC: do you get the error on the bootloader or after the firmware is loaded?
04:03:20XavierGrso you are sure that you get the error before the firmware is run?
04:03:42Davide-NYCThis is what it says: "ATA error: -80 Insert USB cable and press a button"
04:03:59XavierGrthen it could be quite tricky to fix it, you will have to flash your h100 with a new bootloader that you have modified
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04:04:05WarnBanlist contains 18 bans!
04:04:14*scorche boggles
04:04:23scorchelogbot: never seen you say that :)
04:04:33XavierGryeah quite a pleasant surprise
04:05:42Davide-NYCyes, this error is seen even before the bootloader message (version and battery level messages)
04:06:08XavierGrDavide-NYC: what ever you do if you try to flash a new bootloader don't every try to change the code that loads the OF, start hacking after that point
04:06:28countrymonkeyDid someone bann eseteric wisp?
04:06:39XavierGrDavide-NYC: have you got your H100 flashed with Slasheri's bootloader?
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04:06:59Davide-NYCXavierGr: OK. I will take note of that. No, I am usung the official Version 6
04:08:08Davide-NYCI use the H120 for recording a lot and a silent device would be wonderful.
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04:09:06XavierGrDavide-NYC: of course I assume that you know the risks of bricking your unit if you tamper the bootloader?
04:09:30Davide-NYCYes I do. Question: Should I expect the OF to recognize a fully supported CF card? Maybe it's just the card...
04:09:38XavierGrI would ask some help from Linus before hacking it
04:09:51XavierGrDavide-NYC: no i shouldn't expect the OF to boot if rockbox can't
04:09:53XavierGrdid you try?
04:09:58Davide-NYCIt does.
04:10:10Davide-NYCBut it shows 000files and 000folders
04:10:19Davide-NYCeven though I transfered files to the card.
04:10:23LloreanThat's what happens when it doesn't recognize the disk
04:10:28LloreanIt'll do that if you format it NTFS
04:10:30XavierGrah yes the OF boots even without a disk
04:10:46Davide-NYCThe card came FAT and I formatted to FAT32
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04:10:48XavierGrso it will boot even if it has problems with the cf card
04:11:11Davide-NYCto the OF yes. It will boot even if you have no HD in the unit or even a bad HD
04:11:26Davide-NYCFM will work, etc.
04:11:47Davide-NYCtrying a scandisk
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04:14:20Davide-NYCscandisk = no love
04:15:54Davide-NYCI cannot mess with the bootloader. I just can't. I will first attempt this in another player, then with another card. It would be nice to know exactly what to look for when ordering one of these.
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04:17:41PimpIntheFleshthe video's on my sansa e250R w/rockbox is not centered on the screen any idea
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04:18:42soapI am guessing, PimpIntheFlesh, (ironic name BTW) you never scaled them and are only seeing the top left corner of your video?
04:19:27PimpIntheFleshit looks like im seeing the top left corner. the video converter i have doesn't seem to be scaling correctly
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04:19:35PimpIntheFleshany good ideas on a converter
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04:21:16soapthe wiki suggests ffmpeg - winFF if you are on windows.
04:22:16PimpIntheFleshi'll try winff
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04:25:21Davide-NYCCheck it −−>
04:25:32Davide-NYCdoes that even make any sense?
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04:28:15Davide-NYCjhMikeS: you around?
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04:31:31jhMikeSDavide-NYC: hello
04:31:49Davide-NYChey! I'm trying hack a CF card into my H120
04:32:03Davide-NYCthere's some issue with sleep commands in ata.c
04:32:21jhMikeSnow an F120? :)
04:32:26Davide-NYCI do not want to kill my H120, but I'd LOVE to have no moving parts in there.
04:32:41Davide-NYCMore like an F12 sine the card is only 2GB
04:32:46jhMikeSperhaps just remove the sleep commands for now
04:32:57Davide-NYClike this?
04:33:43Davide-NYCreally what it wants is some pretty defines and a Flash_Drive option during configure...
04:34:41femalesleep commands? oh my bible says to save Gods commands
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04:35:20Davide-NYCI guess I need to create a custom bootloader-h120.bin but I don;t know how. Am I on the right track here?
04:35:23jhMikeSDavide-NYC: What about the ata poweroff stuff?
04:35:37Davide-NYCis that in ata.c too?
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04:36:10Davide-NYCI'm getting my info from the forum. What we really need is a good wiki page. I'm willing to start it but I have no idea what I'm doing here (yet)
04:36:11jhMikeSyes, there's a #define for that
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04:38:16maxftballmissing packet start code prefix: )) at FEC..... I get this every time i try to start a video on rockbox with a sansa e260
04:38:22maxftballcan anyone help me?
04:38:45Lloreanmaxftball: What SVN revision is your build?
04:38:51maxftball))= 00
04:39:09jhMikeSold no doubt
04:39:17LloreanAlmost undoubtedly
04:39:39jhMikeSdefinitely undoubtedly :) mpegplayer doesn't even produce that now
04:39:53maxftballwhere can i get a new one?
04:40:03maxftballnew version
04:40:12jhMikeSlatest daily or build one
04:41:05Davide-NYCI wish to build my own bootloader. Where do I find the necessary information to do so
04:43:49JdGordonfor the h100... not a good idea... easy to brick it
04:44:02Davide-NYCwell crap.
04:44:31Davide-NYCI mkdir h120 inside bootloader.
04:44:44Davide-NYCI configure a makefile for h120 and bootloader
04:44:47Davide-NYCI make
04:45:38Davide-NYCI get a bootloader dir inside h120 which contains bootloader.bin
04:46:03Davide-NYCI presume I can now follow the instructions from ?
04:46:04maxftballug now i get "incompatibleversion"
04:46:23jhMikeSremoving poweroff stuff shouldn't prevent an installed HD from working
04:47:05Davide-NYCI need to swap the HDs to "upgrade" the firmware so a working mechanical HD wouldbe good.
04:47:12maxftballwhat does it play mpeg1 or 2?
04:47:45Davide-NYCI'm going to try just the pastebin change I linked to earlier as that has been reported to work.
04:49:27maxftballI got "incompatible version" now
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04:51:36jhMikeSmaxftball: extract the whole new build
04:52:41Davide-NYCOK, my resultant bootloader.bin is *bigger* than the one that is available on the wiki even though I removed code. What version of the bootloader is in SVN right now?
04:53:08*Davide-NYC terrified
04:53:19jhMikeSisn't the wiki one quite a bit older
04:53:39Davide-NYCit dates from, jul 2006. so I guess so.
04:54:09LloreanDavide-NYC: The one in SVN may contain a lot of changes that aren't in any currently available bootloader
04:54:27LloreanDavide-NYC: As you were told by JdGordon, it's not a good idea to compile your own bootloader unless you have hardware to recover your ROM if you brick it
04:54:50Davide-NYCand there is no guarantee that these recent changes are stable so I shouldn't be doing this....
04:55:25Davide-NYCplus I'm not a programmer so who knows if my syntax is correct even if the logic *should* work.
04:55:40*Davide-NYC smacks my face
05:03:07Davide-NYCalright, I am sufficiently freaked out. New tactic: Take the bootloader_h120_7pre4 plunge, and see if that helps. Stay tuned.
05:04:55maxftballyay it works
05:05:02maxftballThanks :)
05:05:25*jhMikeS envisions Davide-NYC in the Post Office mailing a package to Sweden :)
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05:38:21asdrubalIs it normal for rockbox to take over 10 minutes to update the database?
05:38:31asdrubalI have 2gigs of music 1 gig built in, and 1 gig in a microsd
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05:40:26countrymonkeyja, sí, yes
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05:43:25asdrubalcould someone help me? My database is stuck updating
05:43:37asdrubalcan't get it to work at all... shoudl I delete previous database files?
05:43:41asdrubalhow.. etc
05:44:25asdrubalI encountered corruption on the disk earlier... What should I look for to see if my database is stuck updating.... can I fix it by deleting some files?
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05:46:18countrymonkeyThe answer is, delete the .rockbox/databace_*.* files on your dap. Redo the update process and try again.
05:46:54asdrubalI'll try that and report back to you!
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05:52:03asdrubalcountrymonkey, how long does it usually take to update database ?
05:52:05asdrubalI have 2 gigs of music
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05:53:45countrymonkey2 gigs, let me see, about 10 mins on an hdd player. I don't know about a sansa (flash-bassed player). I would expect it to take a shorter time. I don't think it does microsd music anyway so you're probably down to 1 gb.
05:53:47Kernelhello all. does rockbox still not support add on devices for the ipods? the radio broadcaster that plugs in the same place the charger does(usb port??)
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05:54:56countrymonkeyI have gotten an itrip (remote port) device to work but you must use it's default you cannot talk with it. I have heard reports about dock connecting things (some things) working, but I'm not sure.
05:55:23countrymonkeybut officially the answer is no
05:55:42countrymonkeytry the IpodAccessaries wikipage.
05:55:57countrymonkeyif I even spelled that word right
05:56:06Kernelok thanks :-)
05:56:23countrymonkeyHey, I am a horrible speller. :P
05:56:39Kernellol. i am the WORST speller ;-)
05:56:52Lloreancountrymonkey: You could be responsible, and verify the page exists and/or use google to check the spelling *before* telling someone to go there
05:56:52countrymonkeyYou're better than me.
05:57:34countrymonkeyWell, I know the page exists (I bought my itrip because of that page!)
05:57:52LloreanYes, but the page you typed doesn't exist, because you got the spelling wrong
05:57:55countrymonkeyor, should I say, working off that page.
05:58:46countrymonkeygotta go, it's almost 9 here. Gotta get some sleep. night
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06:01:04Kernelhmm i dont see the page off the main wiki page
06:01:12Kerneldoh!. missed him by a second@
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06:04:24Davide-NYCconfused about RAM and ROM and the difference between the two things/
06:04:49LloreanThat's something you could just check on wikipedia...
06:04:58Davide-NYCI've loaded rockbox.iriver and rombox.iriver to flash. What's the difference in this instance?
06:05:22LloreanRockbox executing from ROM saves you a little bit of RAM for buffering purposes.
06:05:26LloreanBut may be slightly slower
06:06:21Davide-NYCbut it's not really ROM then, since I wrote rockbox to it.
06:06:30*Davide-NYC scratching head
06:06:46LloreanROM never means that it's physically impossible to write to.
06:06:53LloreanIf that were the case, it wouldn't be programmable in the first place.
06:06:53Davide-NYCdidn;t know that
06:07:08JdGordonROM usually means write once...
06:07:19JdGordonhere its write a hell of a lot less often than read
06:07:20LloreanROM usually either means "the first time you write to it, it's permanent" or "you're not *supposed* to write to this"
06:07:59Davide-NYCAnyways, I'm officially forever saying goodbye to the iriver firmware.
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06:08:36kaimukithe roms you can write to are eeproms
06:09:08kaimukiunlike ram, it'll keep it's data even if it doesnt have a charge going into it
06:10:05Davide-NYCso when I choose "Boot RAM image" I'm actually loading the RAM with the ROM image and then executing it?
06:10:25kaimukiyep, thats what I'm under the impression that it does
06:10:47kaimukibut I'm fairly new to rockbox
06:11:02LloreanDavide-NYC: No.
06:11:09kaimukiwell there ya go :)
06:11:15LloreanThe RAM and ROM images are linked differently
06:11:31LloreanWhen you choose "Boot RAM image" you're loading the copy that's designed to be executed in RAM into RAM and executing it.
06:11:35LloreanThat's why you have to flash both images.
06:12:36Davide-NYCI see, so *both* images are stored in ROM but the RAM image (in ROM) gets loaded to RAM and then executed whereas the ROM image just gets run from where it is (in ROM)
06:12:50LloreanYes, basically
06:13:18Davide-NYCsweet, I will attempt to make (gentle) changes to the wiki to improve clarity.
06:13:30Davide-NYCcause it wasn't clear to me at all.
06:13:51kaimukiare there any p2 owners in here? cause I wanna start porting :)
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06:16:22countrymonkeysomeone said they missed me by a second?
06:16:51countrymonkeyI got involved in an e-mail war with a friend so might as well finish it and hang around here
06:17:18Davide-NYCLlorean: one last question... is the bootloader.bin file that I compiled the same file as the bootloader.irver file I downloaded from the wiki? If not how do they differ?
06:17:41JdGordoni dont think they are the same... no idea how they differ though
06:18:04LloreanI think there's a difference of a header.
06:18:06LloreanBut I'm nto sure.
06:18:40LloreanYou shouldn't use a bootloader you compiled yourself ever, unless you know well enough to know exactly why you _must_ do it.
06:19:19Davide-NYCI heard you the first time. I'm on a mission to brick me some technology.
06:19:26Davide-NYC(just kidding)
06:19:44countrymonkeyI hoped
06:21:10r4v5if you want to brick technology, i've got an old blender you can smash
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06:22:38countrymonkeyI have an already bricked mp3 player you can smash to pieces. An old 64 mb one.
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06:29:25Davide-NYCIs it reasonable to put in a flyspray request that the required CFModH1x0 changes be figured out and that a CF enabled bootloader build option be rolled into the configure menu?
06:29:48Davide-NYCJust like the RTCModH1x0 stuff?
06:31:24LloreanI dunno if it's reasonable to make a feature request.
06:31:39LloreanIt seems that the people writing the code for a hardware mod should be the people interested in actually doing the mod
06:31:45LloreanBut that's personal opinion only
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06:42:23Davide-NYCtrue, but from an "audio only" perspective the removal of a spinning HD is the last thing on my wishlist for the H1x0. Since Compat Flash is becoming 'cheap' I suspect this will be a popular modification.
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06:42:55Davide-NYChopefully an interested and able party reads this and is inspired.
06:45:05klaatuscorche: ping
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07:06:48midgeykkurbjun: always nice to see gigabeat work :)
07:07:18midgeyhave you made any more progress with flashing?
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07:10:13JdGordonkkurbjun: traitor! mr500 is more important :p
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07:15:24kkurbjunmidgey, yes, flash boot is working properly now, I ran into some trouble where the LCD was not coming up, now it works thanks to that commit. I want it to be out there for a while so that other people can report if they are having LCD troubles incase something is messed up with the initialization
07:15:37kkurbjunJdgordon, :), I got distracted
07:16:20kkurbjunI havn't tried booting straight up without using even the rockbox bootloader, but I think that should work as well
07:16:35mooswee for flash \o/
07:17:31kkurbjunI can't wait to have my non-debug player running without any toshiba cruft. It would be nice to have a wake up alarm on it.
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07:19:28JdGordonhas anyone got a h300 and can test a plugin for me real quick?
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07:22:32JdGordonDavide-NYC: you hae a h300 dont you?
07:23:19JdGordonhmm.... actually i may not need a real target
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07:26:02ryranI've got a general svn question. I've always wondered what 'fix red', 'fix yellow', etc are talking about... anyone?
07:26:11JdGordonthe h300 has pretty much all the HAVE_* defines doesnt it? (apart from the hwcodec ones obviously)?
07:27:43ryranhmmm... I've always wondered about that page too. oh well. ;)
07:28:18ryranwell, the filesize delta graph I get, but anyway.
07:28:22JdGordonthe fix red/yellow talks about the top table, which is a graphical version of the build log
07:28:30JdGordoncompile errors/warnings
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07:30:45ryranoh wow. duh. I should've just clicked on one and would've seen that. thanks for explaining JdGordon
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07:48:48Kernelcan anyone point me in the right direction to get my itrip working on my video ipod?. someone here earlier mentioned it could be done
07:48:59Kernelbut i dont see anything about it on the rockbox site.
07:49:35JdGordonthe itrip is an fm transmitter?
07:50:31Kernelplugs into the bottom...i know it isnt supported bt from what i understood it can be done.
07:50:58JdGordonis it marked supported here? if not then you probably cant use it
07:51:01Kernelwould be i mainly use my ipod in my car
07:52:00cool_walking_It might work if you boot the OF with it plugged in then reboot to Rockbox.
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07:52:41Kernelic ic
07:53:21Kernelsays its not suported on that page.
07:53:39Kernelguess ill stick to the original firmware.
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08:00:37Bigfellaanyone hear me?
08:00:53Bigfellai need help:(
08:01:09kaimukii have an h300 jdgordon
08:01:24JdGordonits ok, decided i dont need a real target... using the sim instead
08:01:27kaimukiask what you need big... if somebody can help they will
08:01:38kaimukiokay :)
08:01:51Bigfellaafter installing Rockbox on my 30G 5 Ipod, It won't turn on anymore
08:01:54kaimukiwell you've got mine at your disposal if u want
08:01:58BigfellaNor is it reconised by my PC
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08:03:18kaimukiu read this thread?
08:04:20Bigfellaok, ill try the re-set trick
08:05:24Bigfellait worked, cheers mate :D
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08:07:32kaimukinp :)
08:08:19Bigfellai guess i'll go finish my homework
08:08:25Bigfellathanks again mate:D
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08:08:56kaimukiso i keep askin, and there's never anybody here... but might as well keep askin until somebody shows up: any p2 owners wanna help me port?
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08:10:45JdGordonkaimuki: start a thread in the new ports part of the forum, do the usual first steps
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08:11:18kaimukithere's already a thread started
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08:12:08kaimukibut i'm havin a really hard time trying figure out how to power up the lcd and backlight without more info... and I don't wanna take my p2 apart :P
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08:12:32JdGordonyour in a pickle then
08:13:05kaimukihehe... ya... if only i knew the startup sequence... or even which lines were connected to the lcd
08:13:22JdGordonstart reverse engineering the OF
08:13:37kaimukiyeah I already started
08:13:51kaimukibut it would be so much easier with at least 1 of those 2 pieces of info
08:14:20JdGordonthen pull it apart...
08:14:28kaimukii may have to
08:14:37kaimukibut I'm not sure if I even have a multimeter here
08:14:48JdGordonalays with the problems.....
08:15:02kaimukiof course... thats why I'm askin for help ;)
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08:57:54JdGordonkaimuki: shame the p2 doesnt have a micro sd slot... i would buy one in an instant if it did!
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09:19:49kaimukiJdGordon: oh sorry... was getting bored reading assembly :P it's still a pretty sweet machine tho :)
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10:02:53petur3:16 it seems
10:09:07Bagderthe date stamp in the pic
10:09:25peturit was the first thing I noticed ;)
10:09:46peturand the streched graphics of course
10:10:38Zagorevery time I see people like that in the logs, I'm itching to give logbot op.
10:11:58BagderI least my fake rockbox photo was an April's fools joke ;-)
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10:16:59Zagora quick check in the logs shows he's only tried to kick pasters and spammers for the last month so it should be harmless
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10:47:58markunkkurbjun: hey, how did you fix it?
10:51:52GodEatera smart logbot ought to be able to op and deop himself as required
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10:53:30BagderGodEater: the dancer development stopped about 10 years ago ;-)
10:53:45GodEaterthere are other bots ;)
10:54:01Bagdervery true
10:55:47Bagderbut none with that same old fashioned spirit ;-)
11:02:21*GodEater clearly needs to add some wear_monocle() and smoke_pipe() routines to supybot
11:10:03markunkkurbjun: never mind, just read your email
11:11:19peturmarkun: still planning to come to Gent?
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11:14:14Casainho_petur: are you from Gent? :-)
11:14:48markunpetur: not very solid plans, but some day yes.
11:14:48Casainho_oh, I were there last here, on Boomball festival :-) - do you know that festival? :-)
11:15:01HxxxCFmodcould I bring this to the developers attention, seems thats a good modification that needs some help
11:15:56peturCasainho_: not really
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11:17:56HxxxCFmodit appears that rockbox has difficulty reading some compact flash cards, whereas the apple firmware dosn't,
11:18:23Casainho_petur: −−> it's about folk dance and music, wich I love :-) ;-)
11:18:29BagderHxxxCFmod: so someone with such flash cards should start looking at code
11:18:48markunBagder: do you know where the DMA mode is set?
11:19:01peturHxxCFmod: my A-Data card has arrived today, I'll try it in my h320 tonight. It is a x266 one
11:19:22HxxxCFmodyep, but the guys aren't sure whether its a bootloader issue or elsewhere
11:19:28peturCasainho_: that probably explains why I don't know it :D
11:20:03Casainho_petur: :-) :-) - okok :-)
11:20:04BagderHxxxCFmod: at what point is what problem appearing?
11:20:17*petur gets reminded of the incompatibility between svn bootloader and his h380
11:20:37HxxxCFmodBagder; during boot with rockbox ata -80 error
11:21:01BagderI'd guess the bootloader and rockbox will have the same error then
11:21:37Casainho_petur: I am from Portugal, I loved to see a lot of people using bikes!! :-) and I didn't like the polluted water :-( :-(
11:21:46HxxxCFmodyou mean code will have to be modified in both ?
11:22:03BagderHxxxCFmod: they use the same code...
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11:22:18Bagderfor ata etc at least
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11:22:31GodEaterI've been looking at the issue for most of the last 24 hours
11:22:40GodEaterI can't work out where a -80 return code can come from :(
11:22:40HxxxCFmodshow how much I know, thanks for the info
11:23:33HxxxCFmoddifferent spec cards, some work fine others dont, the clue lies in the different specification of the CF cards
11:24:00gevaertsIt seems tha no published recovery method can really recover a sansa c200 from "correctly" damaged partition tables and FAT bootsectors
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11:24:56GodEatergevaerts: "correctly damaged" ?
11:25:02gevaertsI just had to recover using my e200rpatcher-based reinitializer again
11:25:06*GodEater writes this interesting description down
11:25:16Bagdergevaerts: right, your recovery tool is needed for that
11:25:35Bagderwe should make that possible for others to create
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11:25:58BagderI find it rather stupid of sandisk though
11:26:00*gevaerts notes that when USBCV MSC tests warn about destroying data on your device, it is serious
11:26:23peturno kidding...
11:26:34gevaertsBagder: basically that means a partitionner and a mkfs
11:27:12gevaertsBagder: my current tool just restores "known good" blocks, so it won't work on any other size of flash
11:27:38Bagderah ok, but perhaps we could at least make a description on how you made it
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11:28:05Bagderof course, you're the first one to hit this problem so it's not likely to be a huge problem
11:29:17gevaertsBagder: I think the most "common" case would be people repartitioning their devices. The way I did it probably is not very common.
11:29:20Bagderis "ata -80 error" the _exact_ error message?
11:29:39Bagderof the CF problem
11:30:43markunBagder: I see some "rc * 10 - x" lines, so I also don't understand how it could be -80
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11:31:01Bagderyes, I'm also browsing through there trying to figure it out
11:31:02peturrc < 0
11:31:23Bagderright, x could be -10
11:31:26peturand x = 10
11:31:30*petur late
11:31:33BagderDEBUGF("set_features() - CMD failed\n");
11:31:34Bagder return -10 - i;
11:31:38Bagderfor example
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11:32:31markunShould all devices support PIO?
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11:35:15BagderI see it
11:35:27Bagderset_features() returns -20
11:35:35Bagderrc = set_features();
11:35:35Bagder if (rc)
11:35:36Bagder return -60 + rc;
11:35:57markunMaybe we should clean up the error codes a bit :)
11:36:06Bagderyeah, this is a maze
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11:48:01*gevaerts is going to do some wiki stuff later today.
11:48:47barrywardellanyone here with a mini2g who check if they get the problem reported in FS #8559?
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11:53:03*amiconn would go hexadecimal for the error returns
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11:53:24amiconnAllows more different codes per function, and the multiplication is a shift
12:07:14preglowdon't we use zero-cross detection when changing volumes on 5g?
12:07:30preglowoh, we do, but not for line out, which doesn't matter
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12:33:12markunLinusN, amiconn: is it a good idea to add support for pio modes 5 and 6? And is this the right implementation?
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12:42:38gevaertsIs the metronome plugin supposed to work on sansa c200 ?
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13:13:43gevaertsSomething that the wiki should probably mention somewhere : it _is_ possible for rockbox to hang with all lights off (well, there has to be a bug somewhere of course...). If that happens, holding the power button for a long time still shuts off the player, but there is no visual feedback
13:13:54gevaerts(speaking of sansa here)
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13:17:14gevaertsAlso, I'd like to put my 'how I recovered my partition table and FAT bootsector' somewhere on the wiki. Any hints on where ? (I'm not sure the SansaE200Unbrick page is the correct one, since it's currently not a "just run this tool" solution, and it can (f done wrong) actually transform an e200-tool recoverable player in a player that requires my tricks)
13:21:00*gevaerts is a wiki newbie
13:24:13gevaertsbertrik: (if you read the logs) Be careful about the MSC tests in USBCV. They are serious about possibly damaging data. If possible, make some kind of backup of your partition table first, that should at least make recovery slightly easier.
13:27:02peturgevaerts: do you already have a wiki account?
13:27:11*petur thinks not
13:27:36gevaertspetur: not yet
13:31:06*gevaerts now is FrankGeverts
13:31:16*gevaerts mean FrankGevaerts on the wiki
13:31:28*petur goes to give write access
13:31:49*gevaerts 's keyboard has it's backspace much too close to the enter key
13:33:45*petur welcomes gevaerts to the wiki ;)
13:33:58*gevaerts thanks petur
13:34:35gevaertspetur: do you have some hints on where to put this stuff ?
13:34:57peturisn't there some sansa port faq?
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13:37:22amiconngevaerts: The Sansa powers off after holding the power button for 15+ seconds. This is a hardware feature
13:38:11gevaertsamiconn: I know. What I actually meant is that if it hangs with all lights off, it's hard to distinguish this from 'my sansa doesn't power up any more'
13:39:41amiconnYes of course. A bug is a bug and can cause about everything....
13:40:16*gevaerts thinks the sansa info on the wiki would benefit from some reorganisation. Mainly some more cross-links between c200 and e200, or some shared pages, would be useful
13:40:45peturyou have write access ;)
13:42:59gevaertsamiconn: Of course. I know that I added the bug that caused it for me myself... I think I'll add a mention to the sansa FAQ about it ("if your player doesn't seem to start up, it might be stuck in an indetrminate state. In that case, holding the power button for 15+ seconds should power it off completely.")
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14:53:19preglowdo we use 'ize' or 'ise' endings in the manual? both seem to be present
14:54:40peturisn't 'ize' the preferred spelling?
14:55:56GodEaterwe use British English for preference
14:56:00GodEaterand so therefore should use "ise"
14:56:05preglowbritish english accepts both ize and ise
14:56:10preglowize is historically the more correct
14:56:19GodEaterreally? Where is "ize" acceptable ?
14:56:34GodEatergive me an example ?
14:57:07GodEaternews to me
14:57:12GodEaterI'd never use "ize"
14:57:55preglowi don't really care, i can use both with equal ease, but we need a convention for the manual
14:58:07preglowand these days i actually just use 'ize' myself, but i tended towards 'ise' before
14:58:08GodEaterwe speaking as a Brit, I'd say go with "ise"
14:58:20GodEaterbut I'm only one voice :)
14:58:33preglowi'll ask some of the other manual people later on
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15:51:55Webbmasterwill rockbox run on the SanDisk Sansa e260?
15:52:46LambdaCalculus37Yes, it will.
15:52:58LambdaCalculus37Before you install, however, is yours a v2?
15:53:19LambdaCalculus37Or is it an R model?
15:54:10Webbmasterim thikning of buying
15:55:01LambdaCalculus37Okay, but as a fair warning: You may end up getting an e260 v2, which is incompatible with Rockbox.
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15:55:46WebbmasterLambdaCalculus37: are sanddisk doing something evil, or is it just cos its different and will need more work?
15:56:21LambdaCalculus37It's because SanDisk changed the chipset in recent Sansa e200 and c200 models. Because of that, we need to start a new port.
15:56:30gevaertsWebbmaster: it's totally different internally
15:57:08Webbmasterbut v2 should be supported eventually, theres not hardware lock?
15:58:01LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: We're not sure when the v2 port will be completed. It takes people who own the device and are skilled in programming to get the port started.
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15:58:46LambdaCalculus37May I suggest another player if you're looking for a Rockboxable device?
16:00:39LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: Go onto eBay and look for the Toshiba Gigabeat F. They're cheap, plentiful, and are wonderful targets for Rockbox.
16:00:41pondlifeSanDisk are doing something a bit evil, by using the same name for different devices...
16:01:34LambdaCalculus37Plus, everyone here seems to love them so. :)
16:02:04Webbmasterso anything in the X or F series should work?
16:03:51LambdaCalculus37Both work, but you'll have a much easier time getting an F series.
16:04:09LambdaCalculus37We're close to getting the S series into the lineup, but the port still needs more work.
16:04:52markunThe S is probably a lot easier to get
16:05:01LambdaCalculus37markun: Ahoy there! :)
16:05:09markunhi :)
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16:06:08Webbmaster :S
16:06:10LambdaCalculus37markun: The S series are starting to show up on eBay more often. I may get one soon!
16:06:31pondlifeLambdaCalculus37: You can never have enough Rockbox targets ;)
16:06:41pondlifeHow else to get a decent Tower?
16:06:54LambdaCalculus37pondlife: Indeed. :)
16:06:59LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: Found one:
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16:08:18LambdaCalculus37pondlife: I already own four targets and two potential targets. I'm going to end up making it Lucky Seven. :)
16:08:28Davo_DinkumWas the Gigabeat F ever sold in Australia?
16:09:01pondlifeI'm only on 3, one of which is dead... Could have been 4 if I hadn't sold my JBR in a fit of stupidity.
16:09:16LambdaCalculus37Davo_Dinkum: Dunno. I know Aussies got the X series.
16:09:38LambdaCalculus37And the X models are compatible.
16:09:53Davo_DinkumGigabeat F doesnt show up on ebay au
16:10:01LambdaCalculus37Try Gigabeat X
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16:10:52Davo_Dinkumbut you just said X doesnt work
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16:11:25HorschtX works
16:11:25LambdaCalculus37Davo_Dinkum: No, I said the X models do work.
16:11:32LambdaCalculus37That's what compatible means.
16:11:35Davo_Dinkumoh woops. my bad
16:11:45Davo_Dinkumi should read things properly :/
16:12:43Davo_DinkumSeems so:
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16:14:41Davo_Dinkumgood choice of suppliers:
16:14:47LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: Have we convinced you yet? :)
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16:15:28Webbmasteri don't really want one iwth a hard disk in
16:15:44Webbmasterits annoying, i really like the look of the SanDisk Sansa e260 :S
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16:16:19Davo_Dinkumew gigabeat has windows logo on it
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16:16:54LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: You can take the hard drive out of a Gigabeat and put a CompactFlash card into it, instead.
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16:17:09LambdaCalculus37There's actually a few projects of the sort on our forums.
16:17:51Webbmasterplus the sandisk one is cheaper
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16:23:53Horschtbut with sandisk, you have to make sure to get a V1
16:26:37Webbmasteri know :S
16:26:53Webbmasteri hate to say this, but rockbox isn't a necessity for me
16:26:58Webbmasterit would just be damn nice
16:27:22*gevaerts has
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16:45:07barrywardellgevaerts: just trying your latest patch on my e280. The iSerial is slightly different than the OF (hex letters are lower case with OF, upper case with Rockbox)
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16:46:03barrywardellgevaerts: also, do you know what the ANSI: 3 means? as in "scsi 11:0:0:0: Direct-Access Rockbox Internal Storage 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 3". With the OF, it's ANSI: 0
16:46:40gevaertsbarrywardell: I assume that's the SCSI command revision level
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16:47:38barrywardelland "mode sense" is to do with that too? it's 45 00 00 00 with the OF, 00 00 00 00 with Rockbox
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16:48:05gevaertsbarrywardell: ANSI: 3 means SCSI 2
16:48:49gevaertsbarrywardell: I have to actually read through some scsi specs one of these days to get this stuff right
16:49:15gevaertsbarrywardell: The mode sense response is still inherited from Zagor's work.
16:49:39barrywardellok, thanks. I wonder what difference those settings make
16:53:01gevaertsbarrywardell: feel free to experiment...
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16:55:41Webbmasterhmmm, is anyone working on getting the sansa e200 v2 to work?
16:56:14LambdaCalculus37Webbmaster: Here's the forum thread:
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16:59:02Webbmasterhmmm, so is that a yes?
16:59:30WebbmasterBagder: ping
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17:05:16markunanyone else from Europe who is unable to get to websites in the USA? (or the other way around maybe)
17:09:56Webbmastermarkun: like what?
17:09:58Webbmasterim in UK btw
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17:11:11gevaertsmarkun: looks like it
17:11:15markunWebbmaster: for example. I'm in the netherlands.
17:11:30Webbmasternah, that works
17:12:28n1smarkun: works here too
17:12:44gevaertsmarkun: I have problems at work, but my home machine seems to be able to reach them
17:13:25peturworks fine here
17:16:15gevaertsmarkun: it works fine now
17:16:43LambdaCalculus37Who here uses Dolphin as their file manager in Linux?
17:16:50LambdaCalculus37I want to know if someone can help test this patch:
17:17:00markungevaerts: yes, works fine again
17:18:05gevaertsmarkun: we probably share a provider somewhere
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17:34:20Nico_PLambdaCalculus37: I use dolphin but on KDE3 (so the files aren't quite named the same). and I don't have a target ATM
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17:34:39*GodEater googles dolphin
17:35:22LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: I have Dolphin running on KDE 3.5.8, and it does create .dolphinview files.
17:35:47Nico_Phere it's .d3lphinview
17:36:16*gevaerts would never use a file manager that leaves files everywhere it goes
17:36:41LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: I'll add .d3lphinview support in later on tonight when I get home.
17:36:48Nico_Pcool :)
17:37:11Nico_Pit might be specific to kubuntu's version of dolphin
17:37:39GodEaterLambdaCalculus37: add .Trash-* too ?
17:37:39LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: Quite possible. What distro do you use, anyway? (just curious)
17:37:56LambdaCalculus37GodEater: That's for Nautilus, correct?
17:38:09LambdaCalculus37GodEater: No, but will do.
17:38:26GodEaterdoes Konqueror do anything similar?
17:38:43LambdaCalculus37I don't use Konqueror, so I can't tell you for sure.
17:38:53GodEaternor do I generally
17:38:59GodEaterbut it's a fairly popular file browser ;)
17:39:14*GodEater supposes he ought to check EFM too
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17:40:28GodEaterit's like the recycle bin on windows
17:40:45LambdaCalculus37The crap no one wants taking up precious space on their DAPs.
17:41:40gevaertsrm doesn't do anycing like that...
17:42:03GodEaterEFM doesn't create anything ;)
17:42:24LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: rm?
17:42:37*LambdaCalculus37 nixes EFM from his list
17:42:45GodEater/bin/rm dumbass ;)
17:43:12LambdaCalculus37GodEater: :P
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18:27:12Nico_PLambdaCalculus37: I use kubuntu gutsy
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18:28:50LambdaCalculus37Nico_P: Strange. I use Kubuntu Feisty, so why do I get .dolphinview files, and you get .d3lphinview files?
18:28:57kugelNico_P: thanks for the hint with IDE btw
18:29:05Nico_Pkugel: you like it?
18:29:08LambdaCalculus37Meh, in any case, I'll add .d3lphinview support later tonight.
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18:36:49shivramklinuxstb: Ive been reading the iaudio7 docs. Where do i start with the code?
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18:45:30gevaertsbetrik: did you see my warning in the logs ?
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18:47:34amiconnmarkun: That patch looks just broken. PIO modes above PIO4 do not exist, and the checks are also wrong idetify word 64 is a bit field. Check the ata standard.
18:47:39webguest66gevaerts: to avoid further corruption of the partition table, it could be an idea to limit ata_write_sector to sectors > x
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18:48:39gevaertswebguest66: maybe, although I noticed last week that Windows doesn't want to mount the filesystem if it can't write to sector 0
18:48:39amiconnwoops. That message lacks one period....
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18:49:48amiconngevaerts: Just fake the write... although it might get in the way if you actually want to change sector 0
18:50:06gevaertswebguest66: I have to recheck. Anyway you can also make recovering hard by zeroing the FAT bootsector, and not allowing writes there makes formatting impossible
18:50:09rasheramiconn: Windows also checks if the write goes right iirc
18:50:14gevaertsamiconn: I did that then. It checks
18:50:25amiconnStore the faked sector 0 in ram
18:50:31amiconn...and return that
18:51:01amiconnThe rockbox ata driver itself prevents writing sector 0
18:51:10gevaertsAnyway, both times I had this problem I was doing something no normal user would ever do
18:51:37amiconnIt will panic if you do so
18:52:16gevaertsI might be remembering wrong. Maybe Windows actually writes to the FAT bootsector, and not to sector 0
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18:53:29amiconnHmm, which might be sector 0 if the disk is formatted in superfloppy mode
18:53:49webguest66gevarts: also a logf if read/write tries to read outside of the physical boundary
18:54:22gevaertswebguest66: that's probably a sane thing to do
18:54:31amiconnIt may be that the SD driver doesn't panic on sector 0 writes though
18:55:06rasheramiconn: Without a regular partition table? A few of my SD cards are like that. The sansa itself definitely isn't though
18:55:30amiconnYeah, the sansa itself can't, as that would prevent it from booting afaiu
18:55:48*gevaerts noticed that this morning
18:55:53amiconnAnd btw, the SD driver doesn't protect sector 0.
18:56:14amiconnThe "real" ata driver does though
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18:58:56gevaertsrasher (or anyone with a sansa e200): can you reproduce anything like jrbil reports on flyspray ?
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19:02:28waldoi broke the headphone jack in my sansa c200 by falling on it ... somhow soldering doesn't fix it so i guess the pcd track came off .. can someone guide me to to schematics or can someone sa where the tip of the jack has to be connectted to ?
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19:10:38desowingevaerts: works with ogg and mp3 here...maybe jrbil has filesystem errors...
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19:13:31JdGordon|wbluebrother: seen the dev ml?
19:13:43gevaertsdesowin: that's possible, but I'm a bit doubtful. I would expect filesystem errors to either always trigger, or never, but not only if a specific non-fs related option is enabled. I'll ask him anyway.
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19:20:11bluebrotherJdGordon|w: not yet.
19:21:46webguest66gevaerts: btw, I have a sansa e200 (2 GB) and a 1 GB regular micro-sd card.. Do you want me to try the usb stack?
19:22:01gevaertsbertrik: if you ever get bored, you're welcome to help flesh out the UMS driver so we can actually at some point fully implement all mandatory bits of the specs we claim to support.
19:22:11*gevaerts is trying to volunteer some other people...
19:22:42bertrikwhat spec version should we support, do you think?
19:22:50gevaertswebguest66: are you comfortable with the prospect of maybe having to do some unbricking ?
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19:23:43webguest66gevaerts: sure I'm willing to take that risk :)
19:23:43*amiconn deems high speed support rather important as well
19:23:50gevaertsbertrik: I'd say for now go for the smallest spec that actually works
19:23:55Domonokybluebrother: about your forumpost: i just fixed the bug in rbutil with the wrong download url for h10 (5gb) :-)
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19:24:41*gevaerts would like high speed as well, but doesn't currently have the needed arm assembly needed skills to find out what we do different from the OF
19:25:49bertrikI think we should first make it work, then make it fast
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19:26:47gevaertswebguest66: in that case, testing is always welcome. Just use it and report whatever goes wrong..
19:26:54bertrikSCSI reduced block command version (1) + scsi primary commands 2 looks like the smallest spec
19:27:17bluebrotherDomonoky: was there another bug? I though the latest windows binary I built already included that.
19:27:37gevaertsbertrik: I think so too. I'm not too familiar with SCSI specs though.
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19:27:50*amiconn considers solving the highspeed problems part of the "make it work" task
19:28:35*gevaerts welcomes amiconn's help in finding out the missing information ;-)
19:28:45shivramkwhois linuxstb linuxstb
19:28:55Domonokybluebrother: h10 really got Hit, the bug befor was in the Bootloader installation.. :-) but both are now fixed..
19:29:07gevaertsAnyway I have to be off now. I'll be back later
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19:31:58bluebrotherDomonoky: btw, have I already told you that you can CONFIG += silent in the project file to make the build output nicer?
19:32:17bluebrotherI haven't committed that because of a small bug in a Qt resource file on windows :(
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19:32:57bluebrotherin mkspecs/features/resources.prf
19:33:21Domonokyhmm. bad, this damn bug in qt..
19:33:58bluebrotherwell, it's only a tiny path separator that's wrong ...
19:34:30bluebrotherhmm, I could add it to the project file anyway and comment it, adding a short explanation.
19:35:12bluebrotheralso, I planned replacing the md5sum implementation with the one included in Qt −− that is already used by the http class.
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19:37:51Domonokyif the md5sum in Qt works the same as ours, sure..
19:38:15Domonoky(md5sum is use to verify the patched hxxx bootloaders.. )
19:38:49bluebrotherwell, it's an md5sum, so it should. But I wanted to verify that in prior anyway ;-)
19:41:09DomonokyQt4.3.3 also has such a nice path seperator bug: you have remove the UI_DIR command iin the .pro file, or it will generate broken Makefiles..
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19:42:26bluebrotherdang. Maybe we should add this to the build instructions on the wiki?
19:43:00Domonokyjup, would be good.. :-)
19:44:20peturdamn, my h300 with CF also gives ata -80. OF also doesn't like the CF :(
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19:46:41PaulJamany database experts around? i noticed that one of my songs has an autoscore of -44 in rockbox which isn't possible. i exported the runtine statistics and in the database_changelog.txt the values for that song seem to be correct (i calculated an autoscore of ~92 which seeems reasonable). what could be the reason for that?
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19:52:44bluebrotherDomonoky: there seems to be something broken with voicefile creation. I too get only 5kiB files
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20:01:31Domonokyand no error ?
20:03:03kugelNico_P: I have question concerning the smooth resize patch
20:03:25kugelNico_P: Is this scaling down vertically and horizontally needed?
20:03:35Nico_Pi'M NOT SURE
20:04:07bluebrotherDomonoky: no, building itself looks fine.
20:04:09linuxstbDoes the patch keep the aspect ratio?
20:04:31bluebrotherthere is only one thing that's strange: the configuration doesn't show the used voice. I.e. the voice field is empty.
20:04:55kugelI don't think scaling without respecting the original ratio is needed, especially since scaling up in those directions doesn't seem to be supported (according to the comments)
20:04:58bluebrothermaybe that's the issue? Seems I don't have any voices on my box installed.
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20:05:17kugelat least, I'm not interested in it
20:05:25Nico_Plinuxstb: it can
20:05:39Domonokybluebrother: that probably the problem...
20:06:20linuxstbNico_P: Do we ever want it not to?
20:06:21kugellinuxstb: half of the code is (imo) "wasted" for scaling without respecting the ratio
20:06:25Domonokybluebrother: there should be english sapi5 voice delivered with Xp.. so with english, there should at least one voice be aviable..
20:06:36Nico_Plinuxstb: I doubt it
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20:07:06linuxstbkugel: That's what I noticed when I briefly looked at the patch - the code seemed to be optimised for speed, not size (duplicating code to deal with special cases)
20:07:32kugelyea, jott tends to optimize for speed only
20:07:59kugelbetter than no optimizing imo
20:08:07bluebrotherDomonoky: I'm on w2k ...
20:08:23bluebrotherwell, if that's the problem then the configuration shouldn't be shown as "ok".
20:08:35linuxstbkugel: It depends. In plugins, size is less important. In the core, it's very important.
20:09:13Domonokybluebrother: sure, the check for the config should be modified.. :-)
20:09:55LambdaCalculus37Going home... good night!
20:09:56*bluebrother just added some build hints to RockboxUtility :)
20:10:29DomonokyUps.. TTSSapi::configOk() always returns true :-)
20:10:46kugellinuxstb: Sure. But I know that Nico_P wants it to be in the core, that's why I asked if the code is needed.
20:10:49bluebrotherlooks like this was intentional ;-)
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20:11:14Domonokybluebrother: yes, it was ok, before i added the voice selection..
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20:11:33bluebrotherlet me guess ... you always used the default voice before?
20:12:38Domonokyjup, the sapi_voice uses the default if no voice is specified..
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20:20:21kugelthere's something buggy with the apply_s_flag or bmp_wide_width patch :/
20:21:38kugelthe 176x176 AA is resized well with a wps that wants 65x65 AA, but it's not displayed at all on a wps that wants 100x100, and then again it's fine on cabbie (which wants 120x120)
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20:26:14GodEaterseems Llorean has been overtaken in at least one category of the forum stats. He's no longer our most prolific topic starter :)
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20:37:52kugelanyone noticed my problem?
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20:44:26kugelIt seems to be theme dependant. If I change the wps Cl tag, in the theme where the problem exists, from 100x100 to 120x120 or 65x65 it still doesn't work
20:47:41kugelit's too big for the buffer on that theme! But not on the other theme
20:49:22kugelNico_P: Do you know why my cover.bmp is too big for the buffer in the one wps, but not in the other?
20:50:03Nico_Pbecause that WPS has more pics?
20:50:52kugelboth have about 35
20:50:56Nico_Pthe non resized bmp is stored in the wps image buffer, so the size you set in the WPS source doesn't matter
20:51:29Nico_Psize (both in bytes or pixels, same thing) of the pics matters too, not juste the numbers
20:51:47kugelok, that makes sense
20:52:23Nico_Pall the bitmaps are loaded to the wps image buffer, which has a fixed size. what's left is then used to load the original AA bitmap
20:52:52kugelIs the non-resized bmp supposed to be in the buffer? I thought the newer versions of bmp resize load the resized bmp into the buffer
20:53:40Nico_Pyou're confusing the audio buffer (where the resized bmp goes and stays) and the wps image buffer (where the non resized bmp goes for a short time).
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20:54:21kugelAh ok
20:54:42kugelAlso, the issue appears only with apply_s_flag and bmp_wide_width patch applied. Manual setting the s flag doesn't make problems
20:55:44kugelhow big is the image buffer?
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20:56:54kugelthe wps bitmaps of cabbie (which is working) have 24KiB less big
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21:05:21kugelNico_P: bits?
21:06:01kugelNico_P: I think I know what's causing the problem
21:07:07conandoslightly ot question (sorry) .. am i correct in assuming that i can use a microsdhc card on the sansa with rockbox but of course i can't directly write on it because for usb the original firmware is booted?
21:07:39conandoor was there any progress with the usb stack recently that i'm not aware of? ;)
21:09:05BigBambiyes rockbox but not the OF supports SDHC, and I have no idea what you are and are not aware of
21:09:11midgey|wyou'll have to write to the card using a reader for now and there has been some usb progress that is disabled by default
21:09:24kugel:/ Appearently, those two patches are not causing the problem :/
21:09:44Nico_Pkugel: that's in bytes (actually chars, but they are one byte)
21:09:51conandobambi/midgey thanks.. just wanted to ask if that's still the case
21:10:25Nico_Pkugel: it's not a problem. it's just that your bitmap is too big for the buffer whith some WPS, unless you make the buffer bigger
21:10:50conandomidgey do you know if there's a page somewhere (wiki) on usb progress? maybe i'm too dumb to find it :(
21:11:00BigBambiconando: Check the IRC logs
21:11:07BigBambiand there is a task on flyspray
21:11:23kugelNico_P: The problem (let me call it problem please ;) ) wasn't there before the newer bmp resize versions
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21:11:48conandobambi: will do.. thanks
21:11:48Nico_Pprobably because previous versions didn't store the tmp bitmap in the same place
21:12:02conandoand sorry for the stupid rtfm questions ;)
21:12:09BigBambiNot at all
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21:12:43BigBambiThe IRC logs over the last few days have all the discussion on the USB progress
21:13:35kugelAnyway, shouldn't the size of the bmp occure in the error message?
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21:13:39conandoah... i was looking at a few weeks ago
21:14:18BigBambiconando; search for gevaerts
21:14:18kugelthere's an other size written
21:14:26BigBambiHe has been making the progress
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21:17:49kugel"read_bmp_fd: Bitmap too large for buffer: 57800 bytes.", the file is actually 112900bytes (according to my file broser
21:18:06kugelbroser = browser)
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21:40:45kugelNico_P: Indeed, bmp resize reduces the img buffer (i.e. by putting a bmp into it). Loading the 170x170 art without bmp resize works fine, except for the resizing
21:41:09Nico_Pkugel: I'm not surprised
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21:41:38Nico_Pabout the error message you pasted, I guess 57800 bytes is the buffer size read_bmp_fd was given
21:42:16kugelNico_P: the bmp is in 32bit, that's why it's bigger on my pc
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21:44:15kugelI converted it to 16bit, but it's still to big (doesn't surpise)
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21:50:48rashergevaerts: playing music seems to be fine for me
21:50:58rasherHe's not here..
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21:59:17robin0800my ipod 5g takes a long time to shut down now about 8 times as long any idea why?
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22:13:48kugelNico_P: See, I was kinda right when I said the patch doesn't look good to me :D
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22:21:07manaox2I have the february 10th version of rockbox. After the last shutdown, my iPod does not turn on in any way, shape or form. hold switch is off. USB connector has no effect. iPod was fully charged. Advice?
22:21:25manaox25.5g 80gb iPod
22:22:01rasherThis sounds stupid, but try charging
22:22:13rasherIt might not have shutdown properly, and then drained the battery
22:22:20rasherOr the battery indicator might have been lying
22:22:37rasherOr hold menu+select (I think) for a while
22:23:14manaox2I watched it shut down. Its been off for about an hour. I'll try... wow. it just made a noise
22:23:17manaox2its coming on
22:23:21manaox2very weird
22:23:42manaox2thanks... and... it still says it has a full battery
22:23:42stripwaxkugel - because the old versions of bmp_resize resized while loading the bmp, rather than loading the whole bmp and then resizing?
22:24:32kugelstripwax: define old version
22:24:53stripwaxmanaox2 - it's a "known problem" and it might be a problem with the original firmware (or it might be a problem with rockbox not shutting down correctly, perhaps)
22:25:04kugelthe version titled as "This is Metadata on Buffer(MoB) version." works
22:25:41manaox2how to recieve MoB version?
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22:26:02kugelmanaox2: I talk about another issue
22:26:15stripwaxkugel - ok, sorry
22:26:41stripwaxI'm not up-to-date on the progress of smooth resize patches, will take a look
22:26:48manaox2ah thanks have a good day
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22:28:27stripwaxkugel - you were referring to #5697?
22:29:29kugelSo you were
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22:30:25stripwaxyes, but wanted to check!
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22:36:21rashergevaerts: playing music seems to be fine for me
22:36:40rasherUsing plain SVN and USE_ROCKBOX_USB
22:36:43gevaertsrasher: here too. Let's see what he says about fs corruption
22:37:05gevaertsI've been thinking about several usb-related things
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22:37:49gevaertsI might try to see if we can get serial and mass storage working at the same time. That would allow for realtime logf output
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22:39:42gevaertsAnd on the high-speed issue : we know that the controller tries to send a 512 byte packet, we know that it marks the transfer as complete after a while, and doesn't report any error, and we know that incoming packets get three garbage bytes every 32 bytes, but the controller marks this as OK.
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22:40:39gevaertsI think that means we understand the controller itself pretty well, but there is an issue with the transceiver. The transceiver is explicitelly not part of the controller in the imx31 spec.
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22:42:33gevaertsThat means that the transceiver might conceivably need separate initialization, which we currently know nothing about. Therefore, I think we should concentrate our search in OF disassemblies for accesses to parts of the adres space that we don't know the function for.
22:42:56gevaertsDoes any of this make any kind of sense ?
22:43:05rasherSounds reasonable to me
22:43:27rasherBut then I don't really know anything about this stuff. It just sounds awfully logical
22:43:49preglowsounds reasonable, but that means we need to disassemble :/
22:44:32gevaertsI guess that searching for unknown addresses in firmware disassemblies might be done semi-automatically (assuming someone assembles some map of all known addresses)
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22:44:49pixelmagevaerts: read your question about metronome earlier, in theory it works on the c200 but you can't control it completely due to its weird use of pligin button actions...
22:46:18gevaertspixelma: that's what I noticed. One of my colleagues is looking for something to record his band rehearsals, and a metronome, so I recommended a second-hand iriver 1xx with rockbox. Then I tried the metronome and I couldn't get it to work
22:47:19preglowgevaerts: problem is, there are so many address areas we know nothing about
22:47:44crzyboysterrasher: I was poking around your site and found this >"> Interesting.... it says I ask too many questions and yell a lot...
22:47:58preglowi wonder how the sansa emulator is doing. we could possibly emulate a usb insert and see how retailos reacts to it
22:48:37gevaertspreglow: sure, but if we start out with something as simple as possible, like the ipod diskmode, it might be doable
22:48:48rashercrzyboyster: Can't argue with statistics
22:49:04preglowgevaerts: good point
22:49:07crzyboysterHaha wasn't arguing!
22:49:23preglowgevaerts: that can even be extracted from the bootloader as a separate application
22:49:40preglowalbeit a 180kb one...
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22:50:35stripwaxany usb diagnostics in the diag mode?
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22:50:41preglowdon't think so
22:51:03gevaertspreglow: someone (can't remember who) sent me a link to it, so I have a copy here. I'm trying to look into it.
22:51:10Bagderrasher: your irc states page "all.php" seem to claim last seen "534 days ago" on far too many persons...
22:51:19preglowis the tranceiver part of the portalplayer chip?
22:51:42rasherBagder: I'm blaming pisg.. I really have no idea how it calculates those values
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22:52:16Bagderfair enough, not terribly important...
22:52:21gevaertspreglow: I think so. at least on the sansas it looks as if all other chips have been identified
22:54:53gevaertsThe ipod diskmode dump I have contains 223 unique 32-bit constants. I'll try to find out what ipod it was.
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22:55:22gevaertsOf course it might be i2c...
22:56:56preglowgevaerts: as taken from the constant pools?
22:57:04preglowliteral pools
22:57:44gevaertspreglow: grepped for 8-digit hex numbers (oops, made a mistake, and only grepped for decimals)
22:57:49pixelmagevaerts: metronome should be much better to control on the H100 - at least the button mapping changes were done by a dev who owns one...
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22:59:16gevaertspixelma: thanks for the info. Anyway whatever is wrong with it on c200 should be trivial to fix (but I'm not too interested in doing that right now...)
22:59:31pixelmait's not trivial
23:00:05gevaertspixelma: depends on how clean, complete and generic you want the fix to be...
23:00:31JdGordon|wgevaerts: PLA was a mistake and in metronome especially.. fixing it is a pain and boring and reverting it is the better option, but noone has been bothered to do that
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23:01:05pixelmacode wise maybe, but it has weird dependencies and ugly "exception" fixes don't make it better
23:01:14gevaertspreglow: I recounted. There are 759 of them, and if we only want page-level uniqueness there are 156
23:01:44preglowgevaerts: keep in mind that arm has very flexible offsets
23:02:06preglowgevaerts: you'll often see some code load an address to a reg, then form other addresses by using offsets
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23:03:23gevaertspreglow: I noticed that, but I think I read somewhere that this offset has to be 16k or 64k or less, so if the hardware isn't mapped too close to each other it might work.
23:04:04gevaertspreglow: anyway I'd like to do a simple search like this first. If it works out, it can save lots of time
23:04:32pixelmaJdGordon|w: unfortunately it's not simple reverting because the ui was also changed since your introduction of PLA there (and make controls and ui more complicated I think)
23:05:29preglowgevaerts: afaik, the offset can be +/- 32 megabytes
23:05:47preglowno, wait
23:05:49preglowthat's for bra
23:05:53preglowehh, b
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23:06:16gevaertspreglow: let's try anyway. We'll see how it works out...
23:06:22preglowgevaerts: +/- 4 kb, it looks like
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23:07:24gevaertspreglow: that would be perfect
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23:08:10Davo_DinkumDoes any rockbox dap play video?
23:08:42Domonoky_nearly all rockbox daps can play video...
23:08:56Davo_DinkumReally? cool
23:09:25Domonoky_color screen, and a not too big screen is helpfull for video on rockbox..
23:09:33*BigBambi points at the PluginMpegplayer wiki page
23:10:05Domonoky_but we have video even on the old b/w archos models.. :-)
23:10:07gevaertsOn the other hand, video might play nicely on a sansa c200, but it's a bit small to be useful...
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23:10:38BigBambiDomonoky_: And on the H1x0 for example
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23:11:25Davo_Dinkumonly mpg1 and 2? What about other formats like theora and mkv?
23:11:38BigBambiThere is no point really
23:11:41preglowgevaerts: would you expect the transceiver to be complex to program?
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23:12:14BigBambiDavo_Dinkum: You have to re-encode to screen size anyway, so why not a relatively simple and fast format?
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23:12:24gevaertspreglow: I don't really know what to expect there
23:12:24pixelmagevaerts: it's not all that bad (but I also was already surprised about video being watchable on the Ondio ;) )
23:12:41Davo_Dinkummkv/are complicated?
23:12:51Davo_Dinkum*mkv/ogg are complicated?
23:13:01saratogai'd expect it to be fairly simple, since i don't think it does much processing
23:13:06saratogabut who knows
23:13:08pixelmaBigBambi: but on the H100 it is als mpegplayer, guess Domonoky meant good old rvf :)
23:13:29saratogaDavo_Dinkum: they're pointless to support at the moment
23:13:32BigBambipixelma: Yeah, but he implied that mpegplayer was just colour targets
23:14:33Davo_Dinkumi dont see why it's pointless to support. i have ogg videos that i'd like to play on a rockbox
23:14:45BigBambiI meant generally that since MPEG works nicely, there is no point complicating matters with other formats even if they are *easy* to decode
23:14:59BigBambiDavo_Dinkum: We await the patch with interest then
23:15:12*Davo_Dinkum runs
23:15:23linuxstbDavo_Dinkum: mpegplayer took over a year to get to the state it is now - that's with a single video codec...
23:15:27BigBambiBut seeing as you have to re-encode to screen size, it is a lot of work for no gain
23:15:47rasherDavo_Dinkum: Just transcode them when you're resizing them anyway...
23:16:24BigBambiWhen we have something that works nicely, I don't think anyone wants to spend the very very large amount of time to implement another format, when it is really not worth it
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23:25:05conandowait.. mpegplayer won't play my mpeg2 hdtv rip as-is on my sansa.. what a scandal =8-)
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23:27:07soapI know! A complete rip off. You should get a refund!
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23:29:42preglowall we need for another format is some guy who knows video codecs, i think most of mpegplayer can be reused
23:29:42conandoyeah :) at least for the 16gig microsdhc i just ordered for that one file
23:29:45preglowat least all the hard parts
23:30:11conandoi know video codecs but i have no time on my hands :(
23:30:30preglowwell, you would need that :)
23:31:21preglowi wonder what impact variable block size motion compensation would have on our small screens
23:31:28conandoi was sort of enthusiastic about implementing another codec.. but after a longer conversation with llorean (and others) they convinced me that it would be totally useless ;)
23:31:43preglowi don't think it would be useless
23:31:50preglowthe more the merrier
23:32:00LloreanI never said it was useless. I said that it's not _needed_
23:32:02Bagderconando: oh c'mon, don't let them scare you away ;-)
23:32:14LloreanThere's a difference between "without value" and "not needed"
23:32:25LloreanThere's certainly value in supporting whatever we can, as long as it's not harmful.
23:32:26conandowell some people think mpeg2 with a constant (high) quantizer look great enough...
23:32:59markunto me it looks quite ok on my Gigabeat
23:33:00conandollorean i wasn't being serious ;) sorry
23:33:01preglowthe "you need to reencode anyway" argument is becoming less and less important with hardware like gigabeat s
23:33:23Lloreanpreglow: That's very true.
23:33:32markunpreglow: which could use some video rescaling because of the TV-out
23:33:38LloreanIf I recall the codec being discussed was MJPEG
23:33:44LloreanVery, very high filesizes.
23:34:07preglowahh, yeah
23:34:16preglowand not very much used, at least in some circles
23:34:17conandoyeah that was just me.. i was thinking about it as a sort of starting point to experiment a little
23:34:21preglowi'd rather see mpeg4, h264, etc
23:34:27conandowmv would be of more use i guess
23:34:31preglowah, that too
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23:35:04gevaertsI put some data on . The addresses are all 32-bit numbers that are on a page boundary and are moved to a register (so they can be used with an offset further on). I filled in what I know about them. Does anyone who knows portalplayer and/or ipod feel motivated to have a look ?
23:35:05LloreanI'd say h.264 for our "very high power" targets.
23:35:08Nico_Pkugel: all that's needed about the bmp resize "problem" is an increase of the WPS image buffer. I'm not sure it calls for a new implementation
23:35:11LloreanAnd MPEG4 for the "everyone knows how to use it" factor
23:35:20conandoh264.. hm would the gigabeat s be powerfull enough? i guess this would really be limited to the gigabeat then
23:35:20Nico_Palthough I'd like to see resize on load
23:35:21LloreanOr rather "nobody knows how to use it, but everyone thinks it's just .avi" factor
23:35:39conandolol, exactly :)
23:35:41LloreanWell, MPEG4-ASP
23:36:11Lloreanconando: The Gigabeat S is supposed to have some hardware assistance for H.264 if I understand correctly
23:36:17conandoaka "pimped" h.263
23:36:28*gevaerts wants animated gif support for his movies
23:36:58Bagder256 colors should be enough for everyone!
23:37:00conandollorean nice, but is it documented anywhere or would it require someone with deeper hardware knowledge?
23:37:13kugelNico_P: This is the way to go? Simply increasing the buffer? I'm not sure...
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23:37:39Lloreanconando: I think it's documented.
23:38:19gevaertsThis is interesting :
23:38:22bluebrotherhow about DVD support? ;-)
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23:39:27preglowgevaerts: 0x40000000 is iram
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23:40:09Lloreanbluebrother: May not be an unreasonable request if we end up having targets more powerful than the Gigabeat S ever. :-P
23:40:23Nico_Pkugel: I don't know. as I said, resize on load would be good but a slight increase of the WPS buffer might be necessary
23:40:35Nico_Panyway, I'm off to bed
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23:42:25gevaertsInnovative makes UTMI-compliant PHY cores for USB, so the PHY should be documented by
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23:43:15preglowgevaerts: phy?
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23:55:28gevaertspreglow: jargon for physical layer
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23:55:43preglowgevaerts: good luck anyway :)
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