| 00:00:47 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: I'll check with clean SVN |
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| 00:04:28 | tessarakt | gevaerts: k |
| 00:04:50 | tessarakt | unfortunately, you don't need rockbox for that, I suppose |
| 00:04:56 | tessarakt | so no good for advertising |
| 00:05:17 | gevaerts | You don't even need to boot the player. Longer lasting batteries ! |
| 00:06:32 | pixelma | KennethScharf: you should be able to edit the wiki now |
| 00:08:00 | KennethScharf | Thank you! |
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| 00:09:20 | rasher | gevaerts: no resets - hurray. What else is left? |
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| 00:11:56 | gevaerts | rasher: no resets, except when they also caused a final disconnect. Maybe I was just unlucky (or lucky...) and it could also happen on the older patches, but I do know there is still some error handling missing. It is technically much better now though. I'll upload this new patch soon (with the warning that this one can cause filesystem corruption, as that's what happens if there is a sudden disconnect) |
| 00:11:57 | keanu | micols_, change the bitmap in apps/bitmaps/native/rockboxlogo.*.bmp where * is the resolution |
| 00:12:15 | keanu | (of your device) |
| 00:13:11 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: any idea how i can generate a logf entry? a clean SVN build only works with the original HD, and then nothing hits logf. |
| 00:13:33 | gevaerts | rasher: after that, there's finishing the scsi support (there are still unsupported required commands), find out why more than one interface doesn't work, and high speed |
| 00:14:07 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: Same thing as before: enable the #define LOGF_ENABLE in some file, and configure with logf enabled |
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| 00:15:03 | FrankOtto | well, some files have LOGF enabled anyway, and i have built with logf enabled. problem is, nothing really hits logf, because everything works. |
| 00:16:12 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: logf basically works just like printf, so just add something like 'logf("Here I am");' in a normal code path |
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| 00:16:36 | FrankOtto | yeah, but then it's not strictly "clean SVN" anymore ;) |
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| 00:17:18 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: you have a point there. This should be harmless though |
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| 00:24:53 | gevaerts | rasher: even more missing stuff : proper hotswap handling for the microSD slot and using SCSI commands to trigger the USB connect screen (other kinds of connections can safely leave the normal UI enabled) |
| 00:26:06 | * | gevaerts found out why his latest patch still has a bug left. It appears to be version thirteen of the patch... |
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| 00:26:57 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: OK, clean SVN with slight modification (logf "i am here" when debug menu is entered) works! no garbage. |
| 00:27:43 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: I guess that's good and bad news... |
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| 00:28:23 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: maybe logging from the ATA thread is not a good idea... |
| 00:29:34 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: that shouldn't be it. I have logf statements in my interrupt handler. |
| 00:29:41 | FrankOtto | i see |
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| 00:29:50 | Bagder | logf() only copies data to a buffer |
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| 00:30:17 | Bagder | should be rather harmless almost everywhere, if you can spare the extra time it takes |
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| 00:32:39 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: I checked a disk image here. The pattern you saw really matches a FAT table. |
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| 00:33:48 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: funny. something in this build must be very screwed up |
| 00:34:22 | crzyboyster | Can some viewports wps code expert help me out by taking a look at this wps code I have been designing > http://pastebin.com/d19161dc3 but for some reason, the hold switch indicator stays activated even when I unactivate it. Anyone know why this is happening? |
| 00:34:46 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: I guess you have some fun to look forward to. |
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| 00:36:02 | * | gevaerts now copied 1.5GB of data to his sansa without a single reset. That means the freshly uploaded v13 is really an improvement. |
| 00:36:39 | Nico_P | \o/ |
| 00:37:43 | * | gevaerts now changes hats and reminds everyone that this very same version also suddenly disconnected without recovering earlier |
| 00:38:06 | BigBambi | I don't like this hat |
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| 00:38:14 | BigBambi | Put the other one back on |
| 00:38:34 | EnterUserName | umm |
| 00:38:47 | EnterUserName | patch 8562... is that making it so you can transfer files using rockbox firmware? |
| 00:38:52 | EnterUserName | its called USB storage driver.. |
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| 00:39:35 | gevaerts | EnterUserName: that's the one. It's not ready for normal use yet, but we're getting there |
| 00:39:44 | EnterUserName | wow.. |
| 00:39:47 | EnterUserName | maybe i'll try it out :) |
| 00:39:54 | BigBambi | EnterUserName: Bow down to gevaerts |
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| 00:40:16 | BigBambi | And heed his warning |
| 00:40:33 | * | EnterUserName is heeding |
| 00:40:38 | EnterUserName | is it possible to destroy the device with it |
| 00:40:40 | * | gevaerts notices that BigBambi also has that kind of hat |
| 00:40:43 | EnterUserName | or is it just wrecking data :) |
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| 00:40:54 | BigBambi | EnterUserName: Data mainly |
| 00:40:58 | EnterUserName | ok. |
| 00:41:18 | pixelma | gevaerts: but BigBambi also offers to eat his hat ;) |
| 00:41:23 | BigBambi | Although a particularly bad case can require extreme fixing (although that should be past now) |
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| 00:41:30 | BigBambi | pixelma: Only if you are lucky |
| 00:42:06 | * | gevaerts is getting hungry from all this talk about eating. |
| 00:42:20 | EnterUserName | gebaerts: thanks for the patch ... and the work :) |
| 00:43:02 | gevaerts | EnterUserName: You're welcome. I'm mostly motivated by the sansa 'refreshing database' screen |
| 00:43:58 | * | pixelma thinks gevaerts is very high in this month's cool IRC statistics "action" count :) |
| 00:44:20 | BigBambi | gevaerts gets my vote |
| 00:44:26 | FrankOtto | phew... after swapping HD and CF card again my iriver didn't recognize the CF card at all, not even in bootloader usb mode |
| 00:44:31 | EnterUserName | last time i applied all my patches it took me 3 hours to do them ..:) |
| 00:44:35 | BigBambi | Plus any gigabeast chaos |
| 00:44:37 | FrankOtto | but now it works again. |
| 00:44:41 | BigBambi | s/chaos/chaps |
| 00:45:15 | BigBambi | gevaerts is clearly trying to take on amiconn for the actions king crown |
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| 00:47:07 | EnterUserName | oh my oh my im so tempted to buy a 6 gig sd hdc card |
| 00:47:08 | EnterUserName | L:) |
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| 00:47:55 | gevaerts | EnterUserName: The main USB "bug" remaining is that it's slow. We don't do high-speed USB yet |
| 00:48:38 | * | gevaerts adds another line to his total in his bid to be this month's top talker |
| 00:48:50 | EnterUserName | oh ok |
| 00:49:27 | EnterUserName | mebbe ill wait till thats all done before upgrading my firmware. |
| 00:49:41 | gevaerts | EnterUserName: That might get solved suddenly, or it might take 6 months. We don't actually know why high-speed doesn't work. |
| 00:49:41 | EnterUserName | cuz of the whole load of work it is to do all my patches :) |
| 00:49:48 | EnterUserName | oh ok |
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| 00:53:04 | BigBambi | gevaerts: You are the current front runner ... |
| 00:53:17 | BigBambi | http://www.rasher.dk/rockbox/ircstats/2008-02.php |
| 00:53:24 | EnterUserName | how do you guys find out the functions :) |
| 00:53:37 | EnterUserName | sounds complex to "find it" rather than program it :) |
| 00:53:53 | rasher | BigBambi: That would be amiconn |
| 00:54:22 | rasher | Ah right, in terms of words gevaerts wins. |
| 00:54:26 | BigBambi | rasher: gevaerts is leading in actions... |
| 00:54:45 | BigBambi | Sorry, yeah I was referring to actiojs |
| 00:54:50 | BigBambi | *actions |
| 00:55:21 | gevaerts | BigBambi: The month isn't over yet. But I'm probably helped by the fact that I didn't become really active until the 6th or so, and the page says it's from the 13th, so I did all that in half the time |
| 00:55:37 | * | gevaerts wonders if that's something to be proud or ashamed of |
| 00:55:44 | BigBambi | gevaerts: I have faith in you :) |
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| 01:02:24 | * | gevaerts is going to sleep. The weather forecast says that tomorrow will be a nice time to improve error handling |
| 01:02:27 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: after rebuilding my modified rockbox from scratch, the garbage is gone. i now have usably logf output from ata |
| 01:03:03 | FrankOtto | gevaerts: good night :) |
| 01:03:08 | gevaerts | FrankOtto: now that you mention it, I also had some dodgy dependency handling. |
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| 01:10:17 | FrankOtto | amiconn: oddly enough, the ata SLEEP command in ata_perform_sleep() seems to yield ATA status 0x50 = RDY | DSC, which means all is fine. ??? |
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| 01:27:43 | XavierGr | rofl my only record in this months logs was my 72 rejoins, reminds me of my stupid ISP and that I will have my piss of mind the next week that I am changing connection |
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| 01:28:59 | BigBambi | XavierGr: piss of mind ?!? |
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| 01:29:18 | XavierGr | woops |
| 01:29:28 | XavierGr | I love that kind of typos :P |
| 01:29:34 | BigBambi | me too :) |
| 01:29:53 | XavierGr | obviously I meant peace :) |
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| 02:07:58 | cool_walking_ | Can I have write access on the Wiki please? Username is AnthonyMercuri. |
| 02:10:09 | BigBambi | cool_walking_: Done |
| 02:10:43 | cool_walking_ | thanks |
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| 03:39:18 | hachi | I switched to a recent build of rockbox from a build that I grabbed last november |
| 03:39:23 | hachi | on my ipod video |
| 03:39:39 | hachi | and the correlation between what is shown on the screen and what is actually playing has gotten far worse |
| 03:40:20 | hachi | after about 2 or 3 songs rather often it's not even the right song, much less the right time marker in the song |
| 03:40:55 | hachi | and it will seek to the next song sometimes as though I hit the 'next' button several minutes after I've hit the button |
| 03:41:21 | psycho_maniac | man thats crazy |
| 03:42:19 | hachi | I'm sorta solicting as to whether this is a known issue, or if there are any workarounds or anything |
| 03:42:48 | soap | never heard of such a thing, hachi. You said it "has gotten far worse" - I assume you are saying you saw this behavior on your previous Rockbox install? |
| 03:43:00 | soap | Which version are you running currently? |
| 03:43:12 | hachi | yeah, it would sometimes take like 600 songs and suddenly it would think I'm halfway through the next song |
| 03:43:15 | soap | When you boot, and see the splash-screen the version number will be at the bottom. |
| 03:43:48 | hachi | how bout I just get it from the rockbox info menu, r16314-080214 |
| 03:44:04 | soap | that too |
| 03:44:27 | soap | can you reproduce this behavior repeatably? |
| 03:44:47 | hachi | pretty close to it |
| 03:45:07 | soap | can you reproduce this behavior with smaller playlists? |
| 03:45:26 | psycho_maniac | and this is NOT a custom build? |
| 03:48:56 | rasher | I'm seeing this as well btw, never got around to investigating it |
| 03:49:22 | soap | on smaller playlists, rasher, or only on larger ones? |
| 03:49:29 | rasher | Larger ones, and lots of skipping |
| 03:49:48 | soap | ahh - I rarely use #1, and never do #2. |
| 03:49:52 | rasher | Haven't tried reproducing |
| 03:50:51 | soap | MoB induced bug? |
| 03:51:43 | rasher | Could be - I've not been using my dap much since after MoB, and only recently started using it regularly again |
| 03:51:49 | rasher | So I've no idea how recent it is |
| 03:52:13 | rasher | Pretty awful bug reporting.. which is why I've not been complaining |
| 03:52:33 | advcomp2019 | i have this issue once in a while with my e200 series |
| 03:53:43 | rasher | How large are your playlists? Mine tend to be several hundred, and I sometimes skip 2-4 times per song (that is, when a song ends, I skip the next couple before finding one I want to hear) |
| 03:56:06 | advcomp2019 | rasher, i have about 650 to 700 songs on my sansa right now but i do not use playlists.. i use the database interface |
| 03:57:20 | rasher | advcomp2019: Err.. you do use playlists. |
| 03:58:26 | psycho_maniac | everytime you play a song you use a playlist. |
| 03:58:41 | advcomp2019 | o ok sorry i did not know |
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| 04:04:44 | Strife89 | advice, please |
| 04:06:22 | advcomp2019 | Strife89, advice for what? |
| 04:06:49 | Strife89 | hang on... |
| 04:06:56 | psycho_maniac | we're not mind readers. |
| 04:07:03 | Strife89 | I know. |
| 04:07:09 | Strife89 | Basically.... |
| 04:07:35 | Strife89 | Would Rockbox perform better on flash players with or without disk caching? |
| 04:07:56 | Strife89 | My thoughts are: no real need for it. |
| 04:10:10 | Strife89 | Input, please. |
| 04:11:08 | rasher | Strife89: on the nano disk cache improves performance - probably because something's up with the flash or ATA driver |
| 04:11:37 | Strife89 | I'm using a Sansa c250; but that's interesting all the same. |
| 04:11:57 | rasher | I don't think the same is true for the Sansas |
| 04:12:42 | rasher | There are some advantages to having disk cache enabled if you use the Database, but I don't remember the details |
| 04:13:02 | Strife89 | Is it possible to disable it through the UI? |
| 04:13:09 | advcomp2019 | rasher, on my e280r, i can reproduce the delay more then i used to be able to do now tho |
| 04:13:12 | Strife89 | Or by editing a setting file? |
| 04:13:58 | Strife89 | advcomp, I notice the delay a lot as well, with recent builds. |
| 04:14:41 | advcomp2019 | rasher, another thing is after about a minute or 2 after it boots up it works fine tho |
| 04:15:58 | Strife89 | Occasionally, when resuming playback, Rockbox resumes not from where I left off, but from the beginning of a song. |
| 04:16:35 | advcomp2019 | Strife89, the same song or different song? |
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| 04:16:58 | Strife89 | Same song, usually. But not always. |
| 04:17:11 | Strife89 | Same song. |
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| 04:17:40 | advcomp2019 | Strife89, you are getting the same issues that i am having once in a while |
| 04:17:55 | Strife89 | Bug, then? |
| 04:18:15 | Strife89 | It was worse, I believe, when I didn't do a "clean install". |
| 04:18:56 | advcomp2019 | not sure.. so let someone read the issue and see if someone else has it |
| 04:19:02 | Strife89 | "Clean install" meaning I backed up, then deleted, /.rockbox, then "installed" the new build. |
| 04:20:01 | Strife89 | I'm running Rockbox right now, westing out today's build (clean installed it). |
| 04:20:29 | Strife89 | The build I used before that was compiled JANUARY 10, 2008. |
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| 04:23:26 | Strife89 | I need to go, please PM me if any details come up, okay? |
| 04:23:59 | krazykit | Strife89, there are channel logs, for what it's worth... |
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| 05:38:22 | crzyboyster | I am currently working on coding a theme using viewports. I have pretty much everything down, but some of the indicators are giving me trouble. I read somewhere that all of the items on the screen have to be defined in their own viewport? How would I do this? My entire problem is at > http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15126.msg115323#msg115323 Thanks! |
| 05:40:50 | crzyboyster | linuxstb__: It seems you posted the viewports patch onto the tracker and it says that you made it. Can you help me out? |
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| 06:59:22 | mightybrick | On my sansa this last week, the disable database refresh function of the bootloader has quit disabling the refresh of the database. Has anyone else experienced this? |
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| 07:15:24 | Llorean | mightybrick: Do you have a microsd card? |
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| 07:19:24 | mightybrick | llorean: yes, I do. |
| 07:19:33 | Llorean | That's your problem. |
| 07:19:45 | Llorean | The OF ignored the "do not refresh" bit if there's a MicroSD card inserted. |
| 07:19:48 | Llorean | ignores |
| 07:20:41 | mightybrick | ok. that makes sense now. Thinking back, that was when it began, around the same time I started using the microsd card. |
| 07:20:49 | mightybrick | Thank you. |
| 07:24:18 | mightybrick | What is the status on viewport development? |
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| 07:43:01 | amiconn | Llorean: There _might_ be 2 bits for disabling the database rebuild, one for the main flash and one for the microsd |
| 07:43:41 | amiconn | And afaik our bootloader handles just one |
| 07:49:27 | Llorean | amiconn: It's possible, but last I heard there wasn't any evidence of one. |
| 07:49:47 | Llorean | I guess I should say "The OF ignores the bit we currently set if MicroSD is inserted" |
| 07:52:33 | amiconn | I think the OF sets this/those bit(s) to indicate that something on the volume has changed, as soon as there is a single write access via USB |
| 07:53:53 | amiconn | So it might even be that it puts the bit for checking the microsd on the microsd somewhere (similar to how rockbox used that hidden sector for storing its config in the past) |
| 07:56:06 | Llorean | That's a good thought. |
| 07:56:32 | Llorean | But I think it may rescan even if you boot, let a scan complete, shutdown, and boot again if MicroSD is inserted. |
| 07:56:44 | Llorean | I'm not sure though, just what I've heard. Both my Sansas are packed at the moment. |
| 07:57:34 | amiconn | Hmm. Is there only a single database? |
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| 08:00:29 | amiconn | Btw, that reminds me.... what happened to those multi-volume support ideas for the rockbox database? |
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| 08:10:12 | Llorean | I don't know if there's a single database. I don't know if anyone's really investigated the database format. |
| 08:10:29 | Llorean | I don't know what happened to multivolume ideas for Rockbox's, I think people got sidetracked. =/ |
| 08:18:10 | mightybrick | How much of the work on viewports has been committed so far? |
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| 08:23:22 | Llorean | mightybrick: There's a changelog accessible from the front page of the site |
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| 09:36:18 | woodensoul | anyone around that runs rockbox on a 60 or 80GB iPod? |
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| 09:42:40 | n1s | woodensoul: if you ask your question someone might be able to help without having an ipod :) |
| 09:45:23 | woodensoul | I've been having a lot of problems with Rockbox on the 80GB iPod I just received. Freezing, very slow startup, unresponsive. I've tried the latest current build and daily build from a month ago. |
| 09:45:56 | woodensoul | Startup times over a minute |
| 09:46:49 | n1s | are you using dircache or database auto update? |
| 09:47:10 | woodensoul | Yes on dircache, no on database auto update. |
| 09:47:27 | woodensoul | I've also seen the hard disk constantly spin for no apparent reason |
| 09:48:34 | FrankOtto | petur: I have some news. Our CF cards seem to behave different, as my card actually doesn't need ata_perform_sleep() disabled or modified at all. |
| 09:48:51 | n1s | yes this is a known problem that was introduced a while ago, have you tried any build from before r16100? |
| 09:50:02 | FrankOtto | petur: At the moment it's running with only one ata.c modification: I'm simply ignoring the failing set_features (0x05 0x80) call |
| 09:50:06 | woodensoul | The earliest build I've tried is from a month ago... the last one availabe on the daily builds section. Does this affect all targets? I'm pretty sure I haven't seen this behavior on my other Rockboxed players. |
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| 09:51:10 | n1s | woodensoul: no it doesn't seem to affect all targets. The bug was introduced in r 16105, try a build from before that |
| 09:51:18 | woodensoul | If you could get me a build from before r16100, I'd appreciate it. |
| 09:51:46 | woodensoul | The earliest one available on the site is 16095. |
| 09:52:01 | n1s | 16095 < 16105 |
| 09:52:04 | woodensoul | and it seems to still do it |
| 09:52:13 | n1s | hmm |
| 09:52:45 | n1s | have you tried disabling dircache |
| 09:53:13 | woodensoul | no, but I figured that would just make things slower since dircache usually speed up navigation |
| 09:54:13 | n1s | yes, but it needs to scan the disk on startup and that combined with the disk reading problems might cause the slowness you're seeing |
| 09:54:34 | woodensoul | well it's not just at start up though |
| 09:55:06 | woodensoul | is it typical for initial database generation to take an hour? |
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| 09:55:22 | woodensoul | on my gigabeat it is very fast |
| 09:55:48 | n1s | it depends on how many music files you have, processor speed etc but an hour seems overly long |
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| 09:57:01 | woodensoul | there are nearly 15000 tracks on my 80GB iPod |
| 09:57:07 | Llorean | The Gigabeat is likely to do it 5-10 times faster than the iPod, I'd think. Just a wild guess, though. |
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| 09:57:15 | n1s | delete the *.tcd files in your .rockbox dir and disable dircache and use the r16095 build to see if it still misbehaves |
| 09:57:44 | woodensoul | ok |
| 09:58:13 | woodensoul | if we know what commit introduced the bad behavior, why isn't it remitted? |
| 09:58:27 | woodensoul | reverted i mean |
| 09:59:05 | Llorean | Because Rockbox is a development version |
| 09:59:15 | Llorean | The "current build" is for developers, and the commit is moving in the right direction on a lower level. |
| 09:59:55 | Llorean | The right question isn't "why isn't it removed" but "Why isn't the new problem fixed yet", and the answer to that is always "Nobody's gotten around to it yet" |
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| 10:00:23 | Llorean | But then you've been around a long while, you know all this don't you? |
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| 10:02:34 | woodensoul | Yes, and I was under the impression that when a commit introduced a bad bug, it was reverted until sorted out. |
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| 10:03:28 | Llorean | woodensoul: When a commit is problematic yes. This commit is *good*, it just makes a less obvious bug show up more. |
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| 10:03:48 | Llorean | woodensoul: Why do you think we didn't revert the nano commit for *months* while we worked on fixing the real problem? |
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| 10:03:52 | Horscht | woodensoul, I have that problem as well on my ipod 80GB |
| 10:04:03 | drkgeek | Are any of you fimilair with the sansa e200 series? |
| 10:04:22 | woodensoul | Horscht: which build are you running that works well? |
| 10:04:24 | Llorean | woodensoul: Get used to the idea that this is a *development* version, and that bugs will get left in it until they're actually fixed, many times. |
| 10:04:28 | Horscht | there's even a FS entry, but I am running SVN 15979. |
| 10:04:39 | woodensoul | I don't own a nano, so I was unaware of that situation. |
| 10:05:16 | drkgeek | Cause I just took my sansa apart, cleaning the dust off my lcd, what should I use? |
| 10:05:38 | Llorean | drkgeek: I don't see what that has to do with Rockbox. |
| 10:06:14 | woodensoul | Horscht: is that the last revision that works well for you? I can't get back that far throught the site. |
| 10:06:21 | drkgeek | It has nothing to do with it. I didnt know were else to turn, figured you guys would know.. :( |
| 10:06:41 | Horscht | the last rev that worked well for me was 16104 |
| 10:07:09 | woodensoul | Why are you running 15979 then? |
| 10:07:32 | Llorean | drkgeek: Please read the channel topic. |
| 10:08:02 | Horscht | cause i don't know how to sync buschels DD patch to an older SVN rev |
| 10:08:57 | woodensoul | DD is the patch that gives better battery life? |
| 10:09:03 | Horscht | so i just use soaps build, which is now also removed from the forums, as testing has finished and buschels patch went into SVN. unfortunatelly, it went in just recently, making it still having the disk trashing problem on 80GB ipods |
| 10:09:04 | Horscht | yes |
| 10:09:39 | woodensoul | So you have a build with the DD patch but before the disk problems? |
| 10:09:46 | Horscht | yes |
| 10:09:49 | drkgeek | I', a IRC noobie, how does one connect to the community channel? |
| 10:10:00 | woodensoul | and it's 15979 with the DD patch applied? |
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| 10:10:28 | Horscht | I also have a patch sitting here, that reverts 16105, but I havent tried it on a recent SVN |
| 10:10:44 | Horscht | well, actualy, that patch is in FS by Buschel |
| 10:11:37 | Llorean | drkgeek: This is a job for google. :-p |
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| 10:13:20 | woodensoul | Still there Horscht? |
| 10:13:33 | Horscht | I never left |
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| 10:13:44 | woodensoul | did you get my PM? |
| 10:14:11 | Horscht | no |
| 10:14:25 | Horscht | you're not registered, you can't send PMs |
| 10:14:42 | woodensoul | they go through fine it seems on this end |
| 10:14:58 | woodensoul | could you email me that build for the 80GB iPod? |
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| 10:15:30 | Horscht | http://www.sendspace.com/file/7xhd81 |
| 10:15:35 | Horscht | i was prepared for that :) |
| 10:16:15 | woodensoul | Thanks |
| 10:16:16 | woodensoul | :) |
| 10:17:10 | woodensoul | what battery life do you get since the DD patch? |
| 10:17:56 | Horscht | i think I have reached 17h with that build |
| 10:18:11 | woodensoul | Under normal use or a controlled test? |
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| 10:18:48 | Horscht | controlled test |
| 10:19:14 | woodensoul | What about normal use? |
| 10:20:07 | Horscht | don't know. cause I never let the battery run dry during normal use |
| 10:20:36 | Horscht | because I am playing around quite a bit with it. |
| 10:21:11 | Horscht | but assuming that my normal use is not that far off controlled test circumstances, I'd say i would be able to get 15.5 to 16h |
| 10:21:13 | woodensoul | I see |
| 10:22:38 | woodensoul | This build seems to be much better already. |
| 10:23:22 | woodensoul | except the audio skipping on startup |
| 10:23:39 | Horscht | I have not had that |
| 10:24:03 | woodensoul | On the most recent SVN, the database commit was taking 10 minutes or more. |
| 10:24:23 | woodensoul | and that's not including the 45 minutes to an hour it took to generate the database. |
| 10:26:17 | woodensoul | Are you getting the track repeating and playlist info screwed up problem with this build? |
| 10:26:29 | Horscht | nope |
| 10:26:42 | Horscht | but I have no clue what those problems are |
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| 10:27:15 | woodensoul | Alright, well thanks for the build. I'll give it a go and see how well things work now. |
| 10:28:47 | woodensoul | later guys |
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| 10:31:45 | FrankOtto | amiconn: can I ask for some ATA advice again? |
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| 10:39:20 | petur | FrankOtto: status 0x50 is ok |
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| 10:40:45 | FrankOtto | petur: Hi. Yes, I get 0x50 for the ATA sleep command. Which actually means that my card works with an unmodified ata_perform_sleep(). |
| 10:42:01 | FrankOtto | The ATA sleep still yields a constantly-on disk-access-LED, though. Still puzzled about that... |
| 10:42:41 | FrankOtto | At the moment I only have one modification to ata.c: ignore the failing set_features call. |
| 10:43:08 | FrankOtto | I wrote in the Wiki which ATA status this returns for me. |
| 10:44:09 | petur | real-life has me a bit distracted at the moment.... |
| 10:46:22 | FrankOtto | petur: no problem |
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| 11:34:09 | petur | FrankOtto: don know why, but it now also works here with perform_sleep() |
| 11:34:42 | petur | so only the set_features() change is important |
| 11:34:59 | petur | it refuses any value I throw at it |
| 11:36:40 | petur | erm.. forget what I said |
| 11:38:12 | FrankOtto | ok :) |
| 11:39:05 | petur | it was working fine, then I changed the spindown time from 5 to 3 seconds and it froze |
| 11:39:28 | FrankOtto | I experimented some more, and found out that the LED=on is not caused by the ATA sleep command (it's commented out now) but somehow by the sleeping=true variable |
| 11:39:47 | petur | eh? |
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| 11:40:30 | FrankOtto | ata_perform sleep does two things: it sends the ATA SLEEP command, and it sets an internal variable (sleeping) to true |
| 11:40:59 | petur | yes |
| 11:41:07 | FrankOtto | my only problem with the ata_perform_sleep is that it results in my disk-access-LED being on all the time |
| 11:41:29 | FrankOtto | so I wondered whether this is caused by the ATA command or as a side effect of sleeping=true |
| 11:42:18 | FrankOtto | The latter seems to be the case. |
| 11:43:09 | petur | how did you come to that? by setting the sleeping to true and watching the led? |
| 11:43:15 | FrankOtto | I didn't get any freezes yet. I guess our cards behave differently when it comes to the SLEEP command. |
| 11:44:25 | FrankOtto | yes, at the moment my ata_perform_sleep() only sets sleeping=true, and that's it. when the "disk spindown" happens (i.e. ata_perform_sleep is called), the LED turns on. It stays on until I do a real disk access. |
| 11:45:40 | petur | ah, so you are not performing the ata_sleep now, or was that just for a test |
| 11:46:35 | FrankOtto | right, currently the actual ATA command is not sent. But I tried that too, it causes no problems for me. I actually used logf to see the ATA status after the SLEEP command, and it is fine (0x50). |
| 11:50:22 | petur | I wonder why the driver isn't looking at the error bit too. It only looks for the RDY bit until timeout. |
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| 11:52:07 | FrankOtto | right. but it's difficult to get at the real status/error when you're devices freezes on failing :( |
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| 11:54:11 | FrankOtto | btw, the original ata_perform_sleep sets sleeping=true even if the CMD failed. i'm not sure if this is right. |
| 11:54:26 | petur | looks like a bug, yes |
| 11:54:41 | FrankOtto | i would try putting the sleeping=true into an else-clause of the previous if-statement. |
| 11:55:16 | petur | but if commands start to fail then usability will be not very good ;) |
| 11:55:38 | FrankOtto | true, but maybe it won't freeze... |
| 11:55:57 | petur | I already have that fix in the code here - no help |
| 11:56:19 | FrankOtto | damn :( |
| 11:58:12 | FrankOtto | Yesterday, I actually had some freezes, but it was due to a dodgy build. After "make clean" and rebuilding, they were gone. Seems that some dependencies are not handled correctly, or maybe I just did something wrong. |
| 11:58:38 | FrankOtto | But I guess you already tried rebuilding cleanly. |
| 11:58:53 | petur | not yet |
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| 12:03:04 | * | petur forgot how to use logf :( |
| 12:04:43 | FrankOtto | petur: on top of ata.c add two lines after the othe includes: |
| 12:04:50 | FrankOtto | #define LOGF_ENABLE |
| 12:04:58 | FrankOtto | #include "logf.h" |
| 12:05:44 | FrankOtto | Use logf like printf, e.g. logf("status = %04x", ATA_ALT_STATUS); |
| 12:06:05 | petur | that I know, I just forgot the #define ;) |
| 12:06:23 | petur | I thought we had a wiki page on it but failed to find it |
| 12:06:26 | FrankOtto | You also have to run tools/configure and select "advanced build" and enable logf |
| 12:06:37 | petur | yes yes... |
| 12:06:54 | FrankOtto | sorry... |
| 12:06:58 | petur | ;) |
| 12:07:13 | petur | I just have a _very_ bad memory |
| 12:08:11 | petur | booting now... |
| 12:08:21 | * | FrankOtto crosses fingers |
| 12:09:10 | petur | bah, with this freezing it is hard to operate it |
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| 12:11:16 | petur | hrm.. logf gives me a blank screen :( |
| 12:12:01 | petur | maybe dump cleared it |
| 12:12:13 | FrankOtto | logfdump? |
| 12:13:20 | petur | bah nothing... must have done something wrong |
| 12:14:00 | FrankOtto | are you logf'ing only if the ATA CMD fails, or unconditionally? |
| 12:14:37 | petur | always |
| 12:14:56 | FrankOtto | that's strange... |
| 12:15:09 | petur | 2nd try |
| 12:15:40 | FrankOtto | have you rebuilt cleanly? I had trouble with logf until I did. |
| 12:16:02 | petur | better |
| 12:16:41 | petur | I only see the prints it always does, not the ones on failure |
| 12:17:43 | FrankOtto | I'm afraid if it fails, it freezes right away... so no logf output then. |
| 12:23:42 | petur | really weird. I'm logging any failure in wait_for_rdy and none occurs. There is one sleep() done and it returned 0x5000 so it went fine |
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| 12:24:23 | FrankOtto | huh, strange |
| 12:25:43 | petur | hmmm unless there is some asm implementation that is being used |
| 12:25:57 | * | petur adds more logging |
| 12:26:44 | FrankOtto | I gotta go, be back later. |
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| 12:29:15 | amiconn | There is no asm in the ata driver other than for the sector transfers |
| 12:29:29 | petur | ack |
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| 12:30:55 | petur | must be some timing thing... adding logf in calls changes the behavior, now it is freezing less often |
| 12:32:38 | pixelma | someone with a c200 at hand around? |
| 12:32:46 | petur | ah.. timeouts |
| 12:34:45 | petur | it is wait_for _bsy that is giving the timeouts, status = 0xD100 |
| 12:36:15 | petur | the ERR bit is on |
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| 12:48:23 | Ave | any plans for creative xen stone? Cant grok the wiki |
| 12:49:40 | preglow | no plans, and we don't plan it, someone with such a device needs to come with an interest to do lots of work |
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| 12:51:15 | petur | lunch! |
| 12:51:16 | Ave | k. Its quite cheap and neat |
| 12:52:06 | preglow | then buy a couple of them, open them up, find out what hardware it uses, then figure out a way to upload our own code to it and start writing drivers |
| 12:52:49 | Ave | well if its that easy! |
| 12:52:55 | preglow | it is :) |
| 12:53:43 | bertrik | is it powerful enough to run rockbox at all? doesn't even seem to have a display |
| 12:54:32 | Ave | Has small oled matrix disp |
| 12:54:45 | pixelma | bertrik: what does the display have to do with "powerful"? |
| 12:56:13 | Ave | Besides isnt ipod shuffle go |
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| 12:56:35 | TX297 | Hi, my ipod is on its way out (hard drive) and after I replace it, I'm sticking a 400GB+ 3.5" hard drive in the old one. If I format the hard drive properly (MBR, firmware, disk) should I just go through the regular steps to get rockbox running? |
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| 12:57:29 | _RadioHead | hi |
| 12:57:33 | bertrik | i can imagine that DAP makers don't put a display on very simple players |
| 12:57:49 | bertrik | but apparently it does have a display |
| 12:57:58 | Ave | Or very compact ones |
| 12:58:33 | _RadioHead | i have a fujitsu 2.5 disk with password, anyone any idea how can i unlock.i dont know passwd |
| 12:59:25 | pixelma | bertrik: the M3 also has no display but it has almost the same processor as the other coldfire targets... |
| 12:59:49 | TX297 | _RadioHead: Yes, one second. |
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| 13:00:02 | _RadioHead | TX297: thx man |
| 13:00:15 | * | amiconn also wonders why a device without a display shouldn't be capable of running rockbox, or what the (lack of a) display has to do with how powerful a device is |
| 13:00:54 | preglow | amiconn: well, it's an indication, surely |
| 13:01:09 | TX297 | _RadioHead: Unfortunately the only way I know of costs money |
| 13:01:10 | preglow | most devices without displays are not as capable as those with |
| 13:01:43 | amiconn | The main things that would prevent a rockbox port are (1) undocumented hardware (2) encrypted firmware (3) exotic architecture with no free compiler |
| 13:01:43 | preglow | like ipod shuffle, and the myriad small crap hardware only mp3 players |
| 13:01:48 | pixelma | but Rockbox also runs on quite "low specs" devices |
| 13:02:13 | _RadioHead | TX297: well anyway thx :) |
| 13:02:35 | amiconn | The shuffle does not have rockbox because the 1st gen falls under (3) and the later ones under (1) and (2) |
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| 13:03:31 | bertrik | what are the minimum specs for running rockbox? |
| 13:03:58 | amiconn | There are no clear minimum specs I'd say |
| 13:04:22 | TX297 | Actually _RadioHead, do you care about the data on the drive? |
| 13:04:26 | preglow | not unless you're doing software decoding |
| 13:04:37 | preglow | when you'd need at least 50-60 mhz for an ordinary cpu to be able to function while decoding |
| 13:04:43 | _RadioHead | TX297: nope |
| 13:04:46 | amiconn | Certainly rockbox is substantially less demanding that a linux kernel when it comes to memor yfootprint |
| 13:05:22 | amiconn | Then it all depends on how decoding is done (hardware, software on main cpu, software on dsp, hybrids of those) |
| 13:05:51 | amiconn | Rockbox does (sort of) run on the iriver iFP 7xx series, which have just 1MB ram and a 60MHz arm core |
| 13:06:25 | amiconn | "sort of" just because there is no user friendly way to run it afaik. Unfortunately the only iFP developer seems to have vanished... |
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| 13:06:48 | preglow | he's not vanished, he never had much time for rockbox, and he probably has less now |
| 13:07:10 | preglow | he isn't very visible even when developing anyway |
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| 13:09:14 | TX297 | _RadioHead: I take it you've seen this page http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html |
| 13:10:34 | _RadioHead | TX297: alredy test with that , i have hirens boot cd but not working |
| 13:10:41 | TX297 | ok |
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| 13:10:59 | TX297 | _RadioHead: http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728 Scroll down to "How can I unlock my drive?". Unfortunately this is the only other way I know of, which costs money. |
| 13:11:17 | pixelma | I just wanted to say that you can't know whether the processor of a DAP is powerful enough by looking at its outside, and the presence of a display is not a very good indicatore |
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| 13:11:23 | _RadioHead | TX297: loading... thx dude |
| 13:11:28 | bertrik | hmm, it's not that simple to find what chipset the zen stone uses, using google |
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| 13:18:44 | amiconn | _RadioHead: There is a (really nasty) way to unlock a locked hdd without knowing the password. You would need a second hdd of exactly the same type which is not locked, and you should do this only if you're really familiar with delicate electronics stuff |
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| 13:20:39 | _RadioHead | amiconn: no i dont have same |
| 13:21:14 | countrymonkey | just wondering if 8359 could be closed and if 8496 and 8576/8577 could be accepted. thanks in advance. |
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| 13:22:36 | Llorean | countrymonkey: How many times am I going to have to remind you that posting tasks on flyspray is enough to notify people of their existence. |
| 13:22:49 | Llorean | If it doesn't get looked at for several weeks (no comments at all) then you might bring it up. |
| 13:23:44 | TX297 | amiconn: As far as I was aware, changing out the boards won't work for some reason |
| 13:24:03 | petur | Llorean: what happened to the traditional nagging? ;) |
| 13:25:38 | Llorean | countrymonkey: Also, on what basis do you want someone else's task closed, when they've said they plan to be updating it? |
| 13:26:12 | countrymonkey | it is obselete. The update to the spanish translation has been accomplished. |
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| 13:27:50 | Llorean | Isn't there a "request closure" or something similar in flyspray then? |
| 13:27:58 | preglow | linuxstb__: btw, it does indeed seem flac performs better than wavpack on some tracks |
| 13:29:51 | pixelma | countrymonkey: the patch committed was done by another person though if I read the svn log correctly, maybe ask in the flyspray entry first if he's ok with it? |
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| 13:38:30 | gevaerts | pixelma: (responding to logs) I have my c250 here |
| 13:40:34 | pixelma | gevaerts: nice, could you check out your contrast settings real quick (just going through the settings list)? Mine lets me set values from 0 to 255 but it behaves as if it actually goes from 0 to 127 and starting a "second round" at 128. I'd like to know whether it is the same for you. |
| 13:41:29 | gevaerts | pixelma: Same behaviour here |
| 13:41:40 | pixelma | ok, thanks |
| 13:42:52 | petur | amiconn: wait_for_bsy is the one that is freezing, when it does, status = 0xD100 and error = 0x0400 |
| 13:43:07 | Ave | ok so I bought one zen stone plus for the SO, but I cant crack it open just yet.. |
| 13:46:45 | * | gevaerts isn't happy about having copied 1.5GB of data without error last night. That means it will be very hard to verify if the fatal reset bug is gone. |
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| 13:50:29 | petur | hmmm 0x0400 means abort, set either when not ready or not supported :/ |
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| 13:59:11 | * | petur wonders why set_features seems to be done several times |
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| 14:00:02 | basti | hi there. is there any build that can read utf-8 coded files? i have some special character files (german umlaute) which are kind of funny now |
| 14:00:21 | petur | use a unicode font |
| 14:00:33 | basti | ok. will try that |
| 14:01:02 | amiconn | Most fonts should have german umlaut glyphs |
| 14:01:24 | amiconn | If you see rectangular blocks instead of the umlauts, the problem is the font |
| 14:01:40 | amiconn | But if you see funny double characters, it's the setting in the viewer |
| 14:01:48 | pixelma | I have no problem with umlauts in file/tag names - what kind of files are yours and what is the tag type? |
| 14:02:22 | * | amiconn assumed basti is talking about .txt files |
| 14:02:32 | pixelma | basti: or are you talking... |
| 14:03:00 | petur | amiconn: sleep is not the one giving issues as whenever wait_for_bsy() fails, the sleep call doesn't report an error |
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| 14:03:29 | basti | pixelma: i am talking about the names of my mp3 files |
| 14:04:07 | basti | when they are played the name is shown correctly |
| 14:05:22 | * | amiconn now guesses basti is using a linux pc |
| 14:05:28 | pixelma | then it can't be a font issue, I guess - unless you're using an unsupported build, the font in the WPS and the browser are the same |
| 14:05:32 | basti | yes |
| 14:05:35 | FrankOtto | hello again everybody. does anybody know what ide_power_enable() does exactly? The implementation for the H120 is just some GPIO magic... |
| 14:05:57 | amiconn | basti: Check your mount options when copying files. This is not a rockbox issue, it's a linux issue |
| 14:06:02 | basti | i am using some build from mystic river |
| 14:06:09 | n1s | FrankOtto: turns on power to the hd (afaik) |
| 14:06:20 | basti | it is mounted with utf8 |
| 14:06:50 | amiconn | That can be right or wrong, depending on the rest of your system |
| 14:07:06 | basti | locales are utf8, too |
| 14:07:22 | FrankOtto | n1s: thanks, the problem is, that when my CF-modded H120 enters sleep mode, ide_power_enable(false) is called, and this actually results in the disk-access LED being switched on constantly. |
| 14:07:48 | amiconn | VFAT always uses unicode internally (UCS-2 to be precise). |
| 14:08:29 | FrankOtto | of course the call makes sense, as during sleep the HD doesn't need power |
| 14:08:30 | amiconn | Mount and the rest of your system seem to disagree about the encoding |
| 14:08:39 | basti | so where is the problem? why can it read the files when playing, but not when browsing? |
| 14:08:59 | FrankOtto | when I comment out the call, the disk LED stays off. |
| 14:09:02 | amiconn | The WPS displays the tag info by default, not the file names |
| 14:09:25 | petur | FrankOtto: read the logs? |
| 14:09:39 | amiconn | I bet that if you plug your dap into a windows box, you'll see the same wrong file names as in rockbox |
| 14:09:43 | basti | sure, but the wps can handle these characters, so why not the "system"? |
| 14:09:45 | FrankOtto | petur: yes, you have mostly figured it out, right? |
| 14:09:52 | petur | not yet |
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| 14:10:08 | basti | amiconn: i will check that out |
| 14:10:16 | amiconn | basti: The browser can handle unicode as well as the wps. It's just that your tags are correct, but your filenames are wrong |
| 14:10:17 | FrankOtto | petur: you tracked it down to wait_for_bsy |
| 14:10:34 | petur | I'm hunting the call that makes fait_for_bsy() fail - it is not sleep |
| 14:10:37 | basti | what do you mean by "wrong"? |
| 14:11:06 | amiconn | I know that it can be tricky to make linux 'mount' behave |
| 14:11:24 | pixelma | basti: just to check... do you see a "box" like character instead of the umlaut or do you see "funny double characters" as amiconn said? |
| 14:11:40 | amiconn | I mean that you'll see strange 2-character combinations where the umlauts should be |
| 14:12:01 | basti | i see "funny double characters" |
| 14:12:27 | FrankOtto | petur: i see wait_for_bsy is called rather often... |
| 14:12:56 | * | petur discovers that due to poweroff, set_features is called many times - after every power on |
| 14:13:16 | amiconn | petur: Of course, that has to be done |
| 14:13:23 | amiconn | Most features aren't permanent |
| 14:13:37 | petur | had forgotton about powering down |
| 14:13:52 | petur | and I saw set_features several times in my log |
| 14:14:21 | amiconn | And btw, that's where I think timing may hit us |
| 14:14:42 | amiconn | We set PIO4 (if available) in set_features(), and set the interface timing accordingly |
| 14:15:09 | amiconn | But if we power down the disk and then power up again, the disk comes up in some default mode which is most probably *not* PIO4 |
| 14:16:19 | FrankOtto | Ah, I was wondering about the constant calls to set_features too. |
| 14:17:01 | amiconn | But we're performing set_features() etc at the same speed as if the disk were still in PIO4 |
| 14:17:32 | amiconn | In fact command timing has different specs than data timing, at least in some modes |
| 14:18:24 | petur | amiconn: that may well be true, but why is only the powermanagement feature failing? |
| 14:18:24 | amiconn | We don't handle timing properly at all yet, except that ata timing is adjusted for cpu clock on coldfire |
| 14:18:49 | amiconn | Because the card violates the specs |
| 14:20:47 | FrankOtto | hmm, but every ATA SET_FEATURES command, we do wait_for_rdy. isn't that enough for proper timing? |
| 14:22:54 | amiconn | Not necessarily |
| 14:23:20 | amiconn | FrankOtto: Btw, is it the iriver's hdd led that lights up when powering down the card, or is it some led on the adapter? |
| 14:24:05 | * | petur guesses the adapter |
| 14:24:28 | FrankOtto | amiconn: it is only the iriver LED, the adapter LED stays off. on normal access, the LEDs are in sync AFAICT |
| 14:25:02 | petur | ah, it is the iriver led... I don't have one :) |
| 14:25:36 | amiconn | FrankOtto: I have a suspicion, but I need to grep the code a bit first |
| 14:25:51 | petur | amiconn: the freeze was in wait_for_start_of_transfer() |
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| 14:26:21 | FrankOtto | amiconn: do tell ;) |
| 14:26:54 | amiconn | Iirc the iriver has a separate power control for the ata led |
| 14:27:26 | amiconn | Obviously some disks (e.g. your cf adapter) enable their led output if they're powered down |
| 14:27:41 | amiconn | -> we should disable the led power together with the main ata power |
| 14:28:15 | FrankOtto | i just tried adding ata_led(false) before the ide_power_enable(false) : no success |
| 14:29:06 | FrankOtto | in fact i also added ata_led(false) in the ata_thread main loop (after queue_wait...) |
| 14:29:20 | FrankOtto | pretty aggressive I guess, but also unsuccessful |
| 14:29:49 | petur | maybe the led goes on because it draws current via another path? |
| 14:30:05 | amiconn | Of course that won't work, as ata_led() only exists for targets with a *software controllable* hdd led |
| 14:30:28 | FrankOtto | I saw for my target, ata_led() = led(). |
| 14:30:29 | amiconn | The iriver h1x0 does not |
| 14:30:57 | petur | bah, added a ton of logf and not it isn't freezing |
| 14:31:19 | petur | bingo |
| 14:31:24 | amiconn | FrankOtto: Yes, and led() in turn is an empty macro for h1x0 |
| 14:31:44 | FrankOtto | ah. thanks. |
| 14:32:09 | FrankOtto | i was looking for that :) |
| 14:32:39 | petur | amiconn: the complete calling path when freezing: read_sectors() -> wait_for_start_of_transfer() -> wait_for_bsy() |
| 14:32:53 | petur | so it is probably timing afterall |
| 14:33:08 | * | FrankOtto applauds petur |
| 14:34:23 | * | amiconn will soon have a patch for FrankOtto to try |
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| 14:35:20 | petur | timing setting? |
| 14:35:34 | * | petur wants to try it too |
| 14:35:36 | amiconn | No, LED disabling |
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| 14:35:44 | amiconn | Timing would be more difficult |
| 14:36:17 | amiconn | You could try to always use PIO0 timings. Would be slow, but should work if timing really is the problem |
| 14:36:46 | petur | maybe set the pio feature first? |
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| 14:39:55 | FrankOtto | petur: I see wait_for_bsy sets a timout of HZ*30 ticks. Is HZ ticks per second/per millisecond/... ? |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | FrankOtto: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/ata_led_h1x0.diff |
| 14:40:23 | amiconn | HZ is ticks per second |
| 14:40:41 | amiconn | Ticks per millisecond wouldn't be possible |
| 14:41:05 | amiconn | HZ == 100 on all targets so far |
| 14:41:23 | FrankOtto | amiconn: thanks, trying immediately... |
| 14:41:57 | amiconn | If that works, I'll commit it. Disabling the LED power together with the main HDD power sounds like a good idea in general, imho |
| 14:42:42 | petur | amiconn: something interesting: I changed the order of features[] and powermanagement is the one that keeps failing. I thought setting pio mode first would be a fix |
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| 14:42:50 | amiconn | And there is no extra cost as you can see when checking that patch |
| 14:43:01 | petur | anyway, gtg, back later |
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| 14:44:46 | * | amiconn wonders whether we could also handle the isd300 power dynamically for even better iriver runtime |
| 14:46:41 | amiconn | Both H1x0 and H300 have a pin for that |
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| 14:48:54 | FrankOtto | amiconn: sadly, the LED keeps staying on :( |
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| 14:56:13 | austriancoder | Can somebody tell me what this error does mean and maybe how to fix it? http://rafb.net/p/Hf1TdG36.txt |
| 14:58:08 | amiconn | FrankOtto: Strange... |
| 14:59:44 | FrankOtto | amiconn: what does and_l do? does it "and" the value at the given address with the given mask, or with the inverse of the mask? |
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| 15:00:07 | amiconn | It 'and's with the mask |
| 15:00:19 | amiconn | But note the ~ in front of the constant |
| 15:00:44 | FrankOtto | ah, i'm blind :) |
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| 15:01:24 | FrankOtto | is this GPIO stuff documented in the wiki? |
| 15:01:44 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments |
| 15:01:55 | amiconn | Linked direktly from the documentation index... |
| 15:02:37 | FrankOtto | thanks |
| 15:03:31 | n1s | austriancoder: I think you get that when trying to call static functions in iram from ram code because gcc uses a shortcall |
| 15:03:47 | n1s | solution: Use the STATICIRAM macro |
| 15:05:06 | austriancoder | n1s: thanks.. lets see if i can fix it |
| 15:05:28 | amiconn | Yeah, STATICIRAM is a hack-around for gcc's broken section handling on arm |
| 15:06:13 | amiconn | gcc doesn't use long calls for static functions even if they reside in a different section, contrary to its documentation |
| 15:06:47 | amiconn | So STATICIRAM evaluates to nothing on arm, and to 'static' on all other targets |
| 15:07:00 | FrankOtto | amiconn: the H100 disk LED pin is documented to be "O" while the HD power pin is documented as "I". doesn't that mean that we can only read the disk LED state, not set it? (I'm assuming O=output and I=input) |
| 15:07:32 | amiconn | no |
| 15:07:57 | amiconn | O means indeed output and I means input, but see the * footnote |
| 15:08:35 | amiconn | O and I are defined from the CPU's view, btw |
| 15:09:04 | FrankOtto | oh, so O should be what we need anyway. |
| 15:09:05 | amiconn | The I for GPIO 31 refers to the ADC input. The output direction is HDD power |
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| 15:10:41 | * | amiconn wonders about ata-iriver.c line 58 |
| 15:10:56 | FrankOtto | maybe one cannot set both at the same time, but should do it in two calls. |
| 15:11:12 | amiconn | You can definitely set both in a single call |
| 15:13:27 | FrankOtto | That line uses &GPIO_FUNCTION, not &GPIO_OUT. but they are probably somewhere defined to be the same... |
| 15:13:38 | amiconn | They aren't the same |
| 15:13:44 | amiconn | See the MCF5249 manual |
| 15:14:15 | amiconn | GPIO_FUNCTION defines whether the pin is used for its primary function, or as gpio |
| 15:14:27 | amiconn | Many pins have multiple, selectable functions |
| 15:14:42 | amiconn | But that line is correct, I checked that |
| 15:15:12 | * | amiconn needs to ask LinusN about that LED control pin |
| 15:15:34 | amiconn | It can't be just voltage. Or perhaps it's not wired on some hardware versions |
| 15:15:52 | amiconn | On mine it's not. I just tried to keep GPO 9 disabled, and my LED still works |
| 15:16:15 | amiconn | (disabled == high here) |
| 15:17:01 | FrankOtto | hm. from my limited experience with microcontrollers (from the C64 days...) I rememeber there maybe some protocol that one has to adhere to, that is first writing some data register, then some mask register, finally writing to another register to make the change actually happen. |
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| 15:17:30 | FrankOtto | but I guess I should read the manual before speculating... |
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| 15:40:01 | JosiahW | anybody out there? |
| 15:42:23 | Ave | zen stone (not the plus!) appears to have sigmatel 3550 chip in it |
| 15:42:38 | Ave | plus only has the display as addition it seems |
| 15:43:50 | JosiahW | Can someone help me.... I just installed rockbox on a 80gb ipod... everything seemed to be fine and I was able to browse the system but then I decided to restart it. It said it was powering down and did but now I cant get it back up.... no power it seems |
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| 15:46:36 | JosiahW | well a reset (menu and select) seems to have gotten me back up and running |
| 15:46:47 | JosiahW | is that how I have to turn it on every time? |
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| 15:57:52 | desowin | with ums v13 I can still get reset full speed USB device, sansa doesn't display flash activity |
| 15:58:09 | desowin | oh, device went offline |
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| 16:22:33 | Strife89 | Any update on Rockbox performance. Anyone care to listen? |
| 16:23:25 | Strife89 | Someone said that the "delay problems" only seem to occur during the first few minutes after booting. |
| 16:23:39 | Strife89 | I second that. |
| 16:24:39 | Strife89 | After that "slow period", Rockbox performs very nimbly, even on starting playback on different songs. |
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| 16:25:06 | Strife89 | A big improvement over late January's builds. |
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| 16:49:58 | gevaerts | desowin: that's the remaining bug. It seems the player doesn't respond properly to reset commands once it does go wrong. I'm trying to fix it, but I haven't done much on it yet. |
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| 16:51:27 | gevaerts | desowin: problem is, it doesn't seem to go wrong very often, and I don't know exactly what goes wrong, so it might be some time before I can actually see what happens |
| 16:51:56 | Strife89 | You're talking about the initial "delays", right? |
| 16:52:39 | gevaerts | Strife89: I'm talking about the USB work. |
| 16:53:57 | * | gevaerts doesn't usually notice audio playing related problems. You have to actually play audio for that. |
| 16:54:56 | n1s | he |
| 16:54:58 | n1s | h |
| 16:56:43 | Strife89 | It seems I'm not seeing numerous users posts, the..... |
| 16:56:48 | Strife89 | then... |
| 16:57:47 | gevaerts | Strife89: I replied to something desowin said about an hour ago. |
| 16:58:09 | desowin | gevaerts: http://rafb.net/p/il2TrX72.html - this is what dmesg said me |
| 16:58:18 | bertrik | gevaerts: what documents are you using to improve USB support? |
| 16:58:36 | bertrik | for the USB controller inside the sansa in particular |
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| 17:00:10 | gevaerts | desowin: that's very similar to what I saw. Were you reading or writing ? Small files or large files ? |
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| 17:01:16 | * | n1s dances the disassembly dance :) |
| 17:02:55 | desowin | gevaerts: I was diffing my local 'sansa' directory with ogg's with what is on sansa, then I copied remaining files (5 albums - 543mb) and during that it failed |
| 17:02:59 | gevaerts | bertrik: The controller seems to be the same as the one in ihe iMX31. I use the reference manual from http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=i.MX31&nodeId=0162468rH311432973ZrDR&fpsp=1&tab=Documentation_Tab |
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| 17:04:26 | gevaerts | desowin: so writing medium-sized files I guess. I copied lots of 2..10 MB files withou problems, and had the problem with one 500MB file. Comparing the data it seems that file size doesn't really matter. |
| 17:05:09 | gevaerts | File size as such shouldn't matter, but it might infuence exact read/write sequences which might. |
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| 17:26:48 | JosiahW | where in the "file browser" do you put all the gbc files for the game boy color roms? The wiki just says: |
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| 17:27:13 | Strife89 | You put them wherever you wnat. |
| 17:27:23 | JosiahW | and it will just find them? |
| 17:27:28 | Strife89 | No. |
| 17:27:38 | Strife89 | You go to them in the file browser |
| 17:27:41 | JosiahW | ah |
| 17:27:55 | JosiahW | hmm.. that could be a pain lol.... got every GBC there is :) |
| 17:28:06 | petur | amiconn: ping |
| 17:28:30 | Strife89 | Make a-Z foleders. |
| 17:28:39 | Strife89 | A-Z folders |
| 17:28:53 | JosiahW | also I want to buy doom2 so I can play it but I dont know where to get the .wad file... I think when I buy it it will just give me a .exe |
| 17:29:02 | JosiahW | Good idea A-Z |
| 17:29:05 | JosiahW | Will do :) |
| 17:29:15 | Strife89 | Doom 2 wad... |
| 17:29:26 | Strife89 | Have you tried FreeDoom |
| 17:29:27 | Strife89 | ? |
| 17:29:34 | JosiahW | no |
| 17:29:42 | Strife89 | It's pretty good. |
| 17:29:43 | JosiahW | is it as good of graphics? |
| 17:29:54 | Strife89 | http://freedoom.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:30:02 | Strife89 | IMHO, yes |
| 17:30:22 | JosiahW | okay :) saves me $20 |
| 17:30:25 | Strife89 | Although I've never played Doom 2. |
| 17:30:43 | Strife89 | Just seen screenshots. |
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| 17:30:55 | Strife89 | You can also use the .wad from the demo(s). |
| 17:31:13 | JosiahW | is it the same thing or will it be limited? |
| 17:31:34 | Strife89 | Limited to whatever the demos normally allow. |
| 17:31:49 | Strife89 | The file size seems to reflect that. |
| 17:32:10 | Strife89 | But there should be enough levels to keep you happy. |
| 17:32:32 | JosiahW | 13.9mb |
| 17:32:39 | JosiahW | is this doom2.wad file |
| 17:32:48 | Strife89 | hhang on |
| 17:33:27 | Strife89 | You want this file. |
| 17:33:28 | Strife89 | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freedoom/freedoom-iwad-0.5.zip?download |
| 17:33:55 | JosiahW | ty |
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| 17:34:10 | Strife89 | You're welcome. |
| 17:34:27 | Strife89 | Make sure you make a doom folder under /.rockbox. |
| 17:34:30 | JosiahW | I just installed rockbox... it takes a very long time to browse through my music... i have it set up to run from RAM is that a bad way to go? |
| 17:34:36 | JosiahW | already did :) |
| 17:34:42 | Strife89 | Put the .wad file there. |
| 17:34:55 | JosiahW | okay |
| 17:34:56 | Strife89 | As for the RAM thing.... |
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| 17:35:08 | Strife89 | what player are you using? |
| 17:35:17 | petur | JosiahW: have you enabled DirCache? |
| 17:35:23 | JosiahW | I dont know :) the default one i guess |
| 17:35:36 | JosiahW | petur: I dont know how do I check? |
| 17:35:45 | petur | the manual ;) |
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| 17:36:10 | Strife89 | Hang on, I'll look, my player's right here.... |
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| 17:36:12 | petur | settings -> system -> disk |
| 17:36:33 | JosiahW | Whoever wrote the manual did a very good job for an open source project :) |
| 17:36:40 | JosiahW | wish their was a search built into the html version |
| 17:36:47 | JosiahW | but google will do fine for now :) |
| 17:36:53 | petur | google is your frien |
| 17:36:54 | Strife89 | Just download the .pdf |
| 17:36:55 | petur | +d |
| 17:36:58 | Horscht | strg + f on most browsers :p |
| 17:37:02 | Strife89 | Then search it. |
| 17:37:12 | Horscht | anyways, what does the Dircache setting do? |
| 17:37:27 | petur | store the dir structure in a cache |
| 17:37:35 | FrankOtto | JosiahW: you should be able to search the html version with your browser, eg Ctrl+F in Firefox |
| 17:37:40 | petur | and the file list |
| 17:37:52 | Strife89 | horscht: not all of the manual is up at once in the HTML version |
| 17:38:07 | Horscht | ah, so not neded when using the database |
| 17:38:17 | JosiahW | FrankOtto: I know but I have to click through each category :) but its not a big deal at all |
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| 17:38:38 | JosiahW | petur: I dont have a settings -> system |
| 17:38:40 | petur | use this in google (adapt to your model): site:http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h300 |
| 17:39:09 | JosiahW | petur: I have settings -> sound, general, theme, recording, manage |
| 17:39:10 | petur | settings -> general -> system -> disk |
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| 17:39:41 | * | petur kicks the old brain |
| 17:40:10 | JosiahW | petur: I think its set for No |
| 17:40:16 | JosiahW | lol |
| 17:40:19 | * | gevaerts hopes petur's new one is better |
| 17:40:22 | petur | then enable it |
| 17:40:40 | petur | gevaerts: do we get new ones during our life? yippie |
| 17:41:28 | gevaerts | petur: I thought that's what you meant by saying you have an old one |
| 17:41:52 | petur | nah, it's as old as me :/ |
| 17:42:33 | Horscht | he just kicked it |
| 17:42:42 | Horscht | trying to do the fonzie magic+ |
| 17:43:16 | JosiahW | no matter what theme I pick the wps (or whatever) seems to stick to the default one |
| 17:43:53 | JosiahW | what may be causing that? |
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| 17:44:08 | JosiahW | nm |
| 17:44:14 | JosiahW | must just be those couple of themes |
| 17:44:18 | JosiahW | the jrock ones are working :) |
| 17:44:27 | Horscht | some do not have a wps |
| 17:44:43 | petur | JosiahW: many themes online are not update and at some time get broken |
| 17:44:57 | petur | +d |
| 17:45:21 | * | gevaerts managed to actually trigger the usb reset problem |
| 17:45:52 | JosiahW | would be nice to have submitted dates listed for them :p |
| 17:46:30 | Horscht | it's a shame. there are so many nice themes, which are made to work with patches only |
| 17:46:48 | kugel | Can someone give me (ThomasMartitz) write permissions to the wiki? I wanna add me to the people planning to participate in the DevCon2008 |
| 17:47:19 | Horscht | and I am too stupid to fix them myself :( |
| 17:47:19 | JosiahW | petur: working much faster now thank you |
| 17:47:19 | petur | just a sec |
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| 17:47:49 | JosiahW | oh can I get my old iPod games and apps to run on rockbox? |
| 17:48:38 | austriancoder | please review #8611 |
| 17:48:44 | petur | kugel: done |
| 17:48:53 | kugel | petur: thanks |
| 17:49:10 | Horscht | JosiahW, for running your Ipod games bought on iTunes, you have to boot to the OF |
| 17:49:22 | JosiahW | ah okay... thank you sir |
| 17:50:01 | Horscht | rockbox has its own games, though |
| 17:50:33 | petur | see 'plugins' |
| 17:50:43 | JosiahW | I did :) and am very happy with the selection |
| 17:51:04 | JosiahW | plus the 500+ gbc ive got loaded |
| 17:51:32 | Horscht | gb(c) is not too good on rockbox |
| 17:52:03 | petur | amiconn: when you talked about setting it to PIO 0, did you mean the CSAR2 setting in crt0.s ? |
| 17:52:19 | JosiahW | Horscht: what do you mean? just buggy? |
| 17:52:22 | krazykit | it's better on faster targets, ipods just have pretty slow processors. |
| 17:53:03 | Horscht | it's not running at a nice speed |
| 17:53:17 | JosiahW | ah |
| 17:53:19 | Horscht | barely playable. |
| 17:53:26 | JosiahW | damned... guess Ill remove them until next version :) |
| 17:53:37 | Horscht | plus, the controls are simply... crap. |
| 17:53:46 | Horscht | nature of the clickwheel |
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| 17:54:48 | JosiahW | oh well.... darn i was pretty excited... but there are still a lot of games available |
| 17:54:51 | Horscht | if you want gbc emulation, you should look into ipod linux, JosiahW. but discussing this is not topic in this chan, plus it's a bitch to get working (espeicaly on 5.5G ipods) |
| 17:55:26 | JosiahW | lol okay |
| 17:56:21 | JosiahW | thank you guys for all the help... im sure ill be back on at some point. have a good day |
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| 18:28:58 | RvX | Hello |
| 18:29:13 | bertrik | Hi |
| 18:30:23 | RvX | I wonder how to insert some special characters in Virtual Keyboard for word I want to find description in dictionary (StarDict) |
| 18:30:42 | RvX | The Virtual Keyboard doesn't contain some of them |
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| 18:32:16 | bertrik | I have no idea at all, hopefully someone else can answer |
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| 18:39:50 | petur | RvX: you might get there by creating/modifying a virtual keyboard file |
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| 18:43:35 | RvX | petur: how can I do it? |
| 18:44:35 | petur | never done it myself, but there are keyboard files you can load. You could tweak one or maybe there's already one you can use |
| 18:47:45 | * | petur fails to find it in the manual :( |
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| 18:49:16 | RvX | petur: thanks, I've found it, good job :) |
| 18:49:38 | RvX | (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts) |
| 18:49:46 | petur | right |
| 18:50:11 | * | petur was hunting it in the source and got as far as the extension: .kbd |
| 18:50:53 | petur | bbl |
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| 18:54:55 | twirt | I need help with my Sansa e280 |
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| 18:55:21 | eightfold | hi, how do i find out if my ipod mini is 1st or 2nd gen? |
| 18:55:26 | eightfold | it's blue and 4gb. |
| 18:55:36 | twirt | My Sansa e280 is not recognized by windows anymore |
| 18:57:30 | petur | twirt: did it/you boot into original firmware? |
| 18:58:10 | petur | eightfold: ipodlinux has a nice overview iirc |
| 18:58:57 | petur | eightfold: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Generations |
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| 19:00:31 | petur | bbl |
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| 19:08:35 | krazykit | twirt, you currently have to boot into the original firmware to transfer files. check the manual for details |
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| 19:11:27 | DDb | im having some trouble with rockbox can anyone help? |
| 19:13:22 | krazykit | have you read the guidelines? |
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| 19:14:28 | DDb | Yes |
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| 19:16:45 | DDb | So...? |
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| 19:20:19 | Llorean | DDb: Well the guidelines actually tell you not to ask to ask... |
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| 19:21:56 | DDb | ok, well i recently installed rockbox on my 1st gen ipod nano, and it is working fine but it wont 'update' what i mean is when i delete songs off itunes or add songs to my itunes it doesnt show up.. |
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| 19:28:35 | ctaylorr | Hmm...wondering if anyone's actively looking at this bug in FS: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8260 . Seems like there's something wrong with a fix dropped to SVN quite some time ago. |
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| 20:23:48 | * | gevaerts fears that this looming mountain of complexity will need to be climbed in some way. Experienced mountaineers are most welcome. |
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| 20:41:32 | * | petur prefers climbing real mountains |
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| 20:43:21 | * | gevaerts doesn't have any real mountains around, so this one will have to do. gevaerts also suspects that petur doesn't have any real mountains around either |
| 20:43:45 | petur | not more than 10m, no |
| 20:44:10 | petur | gives one a reason to travel ;) |
| 20:46:20 | gevaerts | Do they have beer at the top ? |
| 20:47:33 | petur | no, but I once was at a top where somebody had left a bit of alcohol behind ;) did'n trust it though... |
| 20:48:31 | gevaerts | Maybe coming down is safer as well if you don't drink beer first |
| 20:48:45 | gevaerts | Don't drink and dive ? |
| 20:48:45 | petur | exactly |
| 20:54:39 | Ave | the dev working on the mobiblu-port, is he/she here? |
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| 20:56:29 | BigBambi | mobiblu? |
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| 21:00:22 | Philll | gevaerts: before I give it a go, have you been able to get live logf output on the usb serial? |
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| 21:01:21 | gevaerts | Philll: I haven't done much on that yet. I still don't have serial coexisting with UMS. |
| 21:03:05 | gevaerts | Of course if you want to debug non-usb related stuff that won't bother you much I guess. |
| 21:03:23 | Philll | gevaerts: ok, I might have a play with that, and make do without UMS for now |
| 21:04:13 | gevaerts | If you want to enable serial in my latest patch, uncomment the #define in usb_core.h, and comment out the nearby #define for storage. |
| 21:04:53 | Philll | yep, I found that. thanks! |
| 21:05:44 | gevaerts | Philll: Zagor has some preliminary work at http://bjorn.haxx.se/usb-serial-debugf.patch that you might want to look at |
| 21:07:56 | Philll | I'll take a look at that |
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| 21:13:44 | gevaerts | linuxstb: did you get a chance yet to test high-speed on ipod ? |
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| 21:16:32 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: what do you need to compile the bootloader of the gigabeat S, in the vmware machine, it gives an error |
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| 21:17:34 | Ave | BigBambi: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MobibluInfo |
| 21:17:52 | Ave | a small cube/dice player |
| 21:20:30 | Llorean | Ave: That page is 8 months old. |
| 21:20:40 | Llorean | Er, 10ish raelly |
| 21:20:41 | Ave | so where do we go now? |
| 21:20:54 | Ave | meh I'll just check the current build targets |
| 21:21:05 | Ave | other sigmatel chips are equally interesting tho |
| 21:21:16 | Ave | but mobiblu seems like the closest match to zen stone plus |
| 21:21:21 | Llorean | You're welcome to work on it. |
| 21:22:26 | Ave | well is there some information about the current status for sigmatel based players |
| 21:22:47 | Ave | I'm sure its somewhat of a showstopper that there is no compiler |
| 21:26:08 | Llorean | A lack of a free compiler is a very, very significant problem, yes. |
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| 21:33:42 | countrymonkey | The recent activity subversion section of the homepage is down. |
| 21:35:32 | krazykit | no it isn't |
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| 21:37:06 | countrymonkey | It's 5 revs behind. |
| 21:37:19 | krazykit | that's different from being down. |
| 21:37:36 | countrymonkey | well, let's say it isn't working as expected. |
| 21:39:36 | gevaerts | Is there a way to do a nonblocking ata read or write ? |
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| 21:42:20 | bertrik | gevaerts: i put up some USBCV results on my webpage, v12 worked better than v13 |
| 21:46:07 | gevaerts | bertrik: it seems that v13 basically got nowhere. I don't really understand the difference, since the changes between 12 and 13 shouldn't affect control transfers much |
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| 21:47:10 | bertrik | I'll test v14 |
| 21:48:38 | bertrik | I think some tests failed simply because my sansa got hung |
| 21:48:59 | gevaerts | I should really start using some sort of local revision control. I only uploaded v14 less than two hours ago and alredy I don't really remember what changed since v13... |
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| 21:49:34 | gevaerts | bertrik: it hung in v13 ? My sansa stopped hanging on v13. |
| 21:50:10 | bertrik | gevaerts: I didn't really pay attention which versions hung, sorry |
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| 21:59:27 | * | gevaerts is now going to test his new and improved non-blocking usb storage changes |
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| 22:06:28 | gevaerts | This is looking very good ! It's still possible to make things lock up by sending lots of control requests (using lsusb -v), but a device reset gets it going again. |
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| 22:08:12 | gevaerts | ... except when it doesn't :-( |
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| 22:12:59 | petur | oh bugger |
| 22:13:24 | * | petur added waitstates to the ATA but still got a freeze :/ |
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| 22:14:23 | Immortal | can someone help me convert video to fit my iriver H10 20Gb please |
| 22:14:29 | Immortal | using ffmpeg |
| 22:15:24 | gevaerts | petur: since you now know the ATA driver intimately ;-), does it support some sort of nonblocking I/O ? |
| 22:16:53 | petur | not that I saw |
| 22:17:14 | petur | anyway this is coldfire ;) |
| 22:18:06 | gevaerts | Thanks. That means that my "nonblocking" usb-storage driver will still block on disk I/O, unless I add a thread for that. |
| 22:19:18 | kugel | rasher: hehe |
| 22:19:43 | rasher | kugel: I don't see what else there is to say |
| 22:20:07 | kugel | yea, I just find that patch entry funny |
| 22:20:20 | Immortal | can someone help me convert video to fit my iriver H10 20Gb please |
| 22:20:21 | Immortal | using ffmpeg |
| 22:20:41 | Bagder | Immortal: there is a wiki page for that |
| 22:20:45 | Bagder | and no need to repeat |
| 22:20:50 | kugel | I looked into the patch and and saw something exaclty opposing to the summary |
| 22:20:57 | petur | gevaerts: unless we can do DMA on the PP, but I don't think we can |
| 22:21:16 | petur | amiconn: ping |
| 22:21:17 | Immortal | i know i read it and i checked everywhere on the rockbox page and i cannot figure it out |
| 22:21:24 | Immortal | ive tried everything |
| 22:21:38 | linuxstb_ | What command did you try, and what happened? |
| 22:21:45 | Bagder | regarding DMA and sansa: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/SIDMA_interface.txt |
| 22:22:00 | linuxstb_ | Immortal: Also, have you tried winff? |
| 22:22:13 | Immortal | it doesnt work very well in linux |
| 22:22:58 | Immortal | ffmpeg -i ConvertTube_com.mpg -s 160x128 -vcodec mpeg2video -b 200k -ab 192k -ac 2 -ar 44100 -acodec -mp3 themovie.mpeg |
| 22:23:08 | Immortal | i used that command in ffmpeg and i dont know why it errored |
| 22:23:20 | Immortal | it always says unknown format |
| 22:23:22 | Immortal | each time |
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| 22:24:15 | linuxstb_ | Immortal: Can you join #rockbox-community? Help with ffmpeg isn't really on-topic here... |
| 22:24:31 | Immortal | ok |
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| 22:27:24 | amiconn | petur: pong. |
| 22:27:25 | gevaerts | Bagder: interesting. I'll be sure to use that from the UMS driver once someone writes the actual code to set it up. Unfortunately I don't really think that flash targets are the problem for my 128kb reads and writes. I'm mainly afraid of seek times on hard disk |
| 22:28:02 | Bagder | yeah, you're probably right |
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| 22:28:21 | Bagder | but I wanted to bring that document back to life ;-) |
| 22:28:28 | * | gevaerts really should find some time to read all this fascinating stuff on Bagder's website. |
| 22:28:36 | petur | amiconn: when you said timings, did you mean the waitstates in CSCR2? |
| 22:28:52 | amiconn | petur: Nope, CSCR2 has no effect on ata timing |
| 22:29:14 | petur | oh, I thought WS[3:0] |
| 22:29:15 | amiconn | I mean the settings CS2PRE, CS2POST and CS2WAIT |
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| 22:29:31 | Andreas_e260FM | hello |
| 22:29:41 | amiconn | (in IDECONFIG1 and IDECONFIG2, see system-iriver.c |
| 22:29:43 | amiconn | ) |
| 22:29:59 | gevaerts | What I'm mainly trying to do with all this non-blocking in USB drivers is keeping response to control transfers fast. It will also help if and when we want to do isochronous for audio |
| 22:30:01 | Andreas_e260FM | anyone alive in here? |
| 22:30:13 | gevaerts | Andreas_e260FM: no |
| 22:30:20 | Andreas_e260FM | ok.. hehe :) |
| 22:30:21 | * | gevaerts plays dead |
| 22:30:44 | petur | gah, must be getting blind too. Looked over that :( |
| 22:30:52 | Andreas_e260FM | always these faking people ... almost belived you |
| 22:32:12 | Andreas_e260FM | i know this is only rockbox chat but i have a question which is not rockbox related due to my sansa v2 |
| 22:32:39 | * | bluebrother gets rememberd of "Play Dead" by Bjork |
| 22:33:27 | Andreas_e260FM | my problem is that i never achive it to put a video on the sansa.. activated the USB Mode MSC for direct access |
| 22:33:45 | petur | amiconn: is there a table/calculation somewhere for pio modes. Somebody calculated them once... |
| 22:33:52 | Andreas_e260FM | transfered a video directly on /video -> no result |
| 22:34:20 | Andreas_e260FM | used sansa media converter 2 -> conversion runs fine no errors -> no video |
| 22:34:22 | Bagder | Andreas_e260FM: that's off topic here and not many people around here have v2s (since they don't run rockbox) |
| 22:34:23 | krazykit | Andreas_e260FM, this channel is strictly rockbox-related. |
| 22:34:57 | Andreas_e260FM | i know.. sorry but i dont know where to ask instead ? |
| 22:35:26 | rasher | Andreas_e260FM: Try sandisk's forums. |
| 22:35:34 | Andreas_e260FM | my intension was to use rockbiox but here they only sell V2 now |
| 22:35:52 | Andreas_e260FM | wrote a mail to sandisk support - > no reaction |
| 22:36:41 | amiconn | petur: See MCF5249UM.pdf, pages 192..193, and e.g. the ata-5 specs page 290 ff |
| 22:36:52 | petur | thnx |
| 22:38:41 | * | amiconn wants to remind that BCLK = CPUCLK/2 |
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| 22:41:14 | amiconn | uhm |
| 22:41:19 | * | amiconn pings Bagder |
| 22:41:32 | Bagder | yes? |
| 22:41:38 | amiconn | ViewVC doesn't work... |
| 22:42:04 | Bagder | ah, that's zagors mess^H^H^H^Hjob! |
| 22:42:25 | bluebrother | oh, btw: what happened to the idea of svnlogbrowser? |
| 22:43:14 | petur | don't spoil his saturdayevening ;) |
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| 22:46:50 | Andreas_e260FM | rasher: whats the adress of the sandisk forum? |
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| 22:47:40 | rasher | Andreas_e260FM: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/ |
| 22:48:05 | Andreas_e260FM | thank you! |
| 22:48:40 | advcomp2019 | Andreas_e260FM, you could look at anythingbutipod.com too |
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| 22:52:10 | soap | linuxstb, I have been out of the loop for a while. What is the status of viewports, and if I was to restart a viewports testing build what would be appropriate to include? |
| 22:54:51 | linuxstb | soap: I've been too busy to work on my wps patch, and I'm not sure what JdGordon's plans are... From my point of view, there's no need for a testing build atm. |
| 22:55:35 | soap | thank you for your input - I'll throw the same question out to JdGordon when I see him, but lord knows I'm quite happy sitting on my hands. |
| 22:55:40 | kugel | soap: the core part of viewports has been in the svn for a while now, the wps part is still on the tracker, also there's another entry of jdgordon which enables viewports for lists |
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| 22:56:26 | kugel | imo, the wps part is doing pretty well (I have no issues with it). Haven't tested the list version yet |
| 22:56:47 | Andreas_e260FM | thanks advcomp too! |
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| 22:57:36 | soap | maybe I'll do those two elements - gives me a reason to work on a multi-target / multi-patch builds script. |
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| 22:58:43 | kugel | soap: I have such a script (only for 1 target though) :) |
| 22:58:59 | soap | I wouldn't mind seeing it. |
| 22:59:26 | kugel | soap: I did it myself, wait a minute |
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| 23:00:04 | kugel | and it's still work-in-progress |
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| 23:00:57 | soap | I won't judge you. ;) |
| 23:01:44 | woodensoul | Can anyone recommend an external USB card reader that works with the microSDHC cards that Rockbox allows the Sansa to use? And also xD and SD as well |
| 23:02:07 | krazykit | woodensoul, i'd just look on amazon or newegg for one with those features |
| 23:03:20 | woodensoul | krazykit: doing that now |
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| 23:04:14 | amiconn | Don't those sandisk microsdhc cards come with an usb mini-reader? |
| 23:04:34 | woodensoul | Do they have to specifically say that they'll work with microSDHC or will one that work with SD work with microSDHC with an adapter? |
| 23:05:05 | kugel | soap: wait, kubuntu is fooling me |
| 23:05:55 | rasher | woodensoul: They have to support sdhc |
| 23:07:22 | kugel | www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/asdf/rb-script.tar.gz |
| 23:07:56 | soap | thank you |
| 23:08:12 | soap | if I get anywhere with this I'll fire it back at you. |
| 23:08:31 | kugel | soap: you can checkout, build, build sim, patch, remove patches, and more with it |
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| 23:09:01 | kugel | I haven'd add a help (file) or documentation yet ;) If you have questions ask me |
| 23:09:03 | woodensoul | microSDHC is the same as SD2.0? |
| 23:11:18 | soap | hmm, more than I'm looking for - but I definitely need to read some examples. I was just thinking of one which asked you (or took input from a file) what targets to build for, looked at what SVN reversion you were at - asked what patches you were using, and would build and rename the resulting files into a format such as "iPodVideo-r16456-viewports_listV02.zip" |
| 23:12:32 | krazykit | woodensoul, doubt it. it would explicitly say sdhc |
| 23:13:38 | bluebrother | krazykit, woodensoul: according to wikipedia SDHC is also called SD 2.0 |
| 23:13:44 | bluebrother | though I never heard of that before. |
| 23:13:44 | kugel | soap: yea, I've planned to bring such a thing like asking for patches in it, but I wanted to create a Qt gui before (where I can checkbox the patches I want), but Qt is still a bit over my head, since I haven't ever dealed with Qt before |
| 23:13:48 | Davide-NYC | Hello, is anyone working on getting Compact_Flash detection working properly? If so what can I do to help? |
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| 23:14:25 | kugel | soap: but, you insert the patches in patch.rb. For only having specific patches you can comment out the lines you don't neet |
| 23:14:42 | kugel | need* |
| 23:14:55 | soap | cool. |
| 23:15:20 | bluebrother | kugel: don't you think a Qt GUI would be a bit overkill for such a task? Building isn't graphical too ... ;-) |
| 23:15:22 | Davide-NYC | petur: ping |
| 23:15:41 | kugel | bluebrother: sure it would. But, I do it for my fun, and I'm very interested in Qt |
| 23:16:00 | kugel | :) |
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| 23:16:27 | bluebrother | I won't stop you ;-) |
| 23:16:36 | bluebrother | and using Qt is fun. |
| 23:17:07 | kugel | I believe that |
| 23:18:48 | kugel | I just remember how much time my script saved me...incredible |
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| 23:21:30 | kugel | Oh soap, I just remember, for building you lack a file |
| 23:21:57 | kugel | just the file which puts 50 and n to configure |
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| 23:22:48 | FrankOtto | Davide-NYC: I've just read the logs. You asked about CF? what player are you using? |
| 23:22:58 | Davide-NYC | H120 |
| 23:23:15 | Davide-NYC | I have the required hardware and I made the wiki page |
| 23:23:20 | FrankOtto | me too |
| 23:23:28 | Davide-NYC | wiling ot hack/test (on a saturday evening! |
| 23:23:32 | Davide-NYC | ) |
| 23:23:57 | FrankOtto | I added my experiences to the wiki page, as you might have seen. |
| 23:24:14 | * | petur mutters pong |
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| 23:24:29 | kugel | where we're at it, I think it should be possible (don't if it is, but −−help doesn't say so) to throw parameters. parameters for defining the target and build kind |
| 23:24:49 | kugel | I'm talking about tools/configure |
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| 23:25:01 | Davide-NYC | I saw. Do you guys need/want me to do anything? |
| 23:25:34 | petur | not for me (yet) |
| 23:25:55 | FrankOtto | Davide-NYC: Personally, I'd be interested to see whether you get the same issue with the disk LED which I have. |
| 23:25:55 | Davide-NYC | How safe is the ata.c.diff file that currently resides on the wiki? |
| 23:26:10 | FrankOtto | that diff is a bit outdated... |
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| 23:26:37 | Davide-NYC | If you post a fresh one I'll implement and report my findings, LED or otherwise |
| 23:26:42 | FrankOtto | it still disables ata_perform_sleep() which results in a forced shutdown (see "Issue 1") |
| 23:27:29 | FrankOtto | OK, I'll post a more current patch, gimme a moment... |
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| 23:35:02 | crzyboyster | Sorry, but I lost track of all the new WPS capabilities coming out. What exactly does patch 8457 do and what exactly is a quickscreen? |
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| 23:39:26 | FrankOtto | Davide-NYC: patch attached to wiki page |
| 23:39:48 | Davide-NYC | FrankOtto: thx |
| 23:40:03 | FrankOtto | for installation, you first need the original HD inside the H120 |
| 23:40:42 | FrankOtto | do you already have the V7pre bootloader? |
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| 23:46:29 | Davide-NYC | HD installed, BL V7pre4 and I've flashed both RAM and ROM. Applied patch and am now compiling |
| 23:47:15 | Davide-NYC | I'm compiling a vanilla (patched) build even thought the H120 has the RTC mod |
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| 23:48:26 | FrankOtto | OK, if the CF still fails, you can always reinsert the HD and boot a vanilla rockbox from disk. |
| 23:48:48 | FrankOtto | what card do you have? |
| 23:52:33 | Davide-NYC | I have an AData 266x |
| 23:52:58 | Davide-NYC | I installed the modified build and flashed rockbox.iriver using iriver_flash |
| 23:53:22 | Davide-NYC | I'm booting to the RAM image *but* my HD spins down. Is that the expected behavior? |
| 23:53:42 | FrankOtto | with this patch... yes. |
| 23:53:54 | Davide-NYC | OK, then I will now swap out the drives |
| 23:53:58 | FrankOtto | (I need to edit the wiki) |
| 23:54:25 | FrankOtto | You already copied the rockbox build to the CF? |
| 23:55:35 | petur | allright... I put in some fairly relaxed ATA timings and no freezing. It did hang a bit at shutdown though. |
| 23:55:59 | Davide-NYC | I had an old version of RB on the CF card and guess what... it seems to be working! |
| 23:56:27 | Davide-NYC | I will now put the correct (modified) version on there. |
| 23:56:32 | FrankOtto | Davide-NYC: good! |
| 23:57:37 | FrankOtto | Davide-NYC: try to avoid bootloader USB mode, it will try to boot rockbox.iriver from disk, and that won't work. |
| 23:57:50 | | Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
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