| 00:00:00 | ally_xoxooox | linux - ubuntu os, running a Hp with Pen III :) |
| 00:00:27 | pixelma | Shnaw: there is a section about the system options, unfortunately the "keyclick" feature isn't described in there yet |
| 00:00:28 | ally_xoxooox | i gave it a nick name, "the brick" cause its old :) |
| 00:00:32 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: then you got the wron ipodpatcher |
| 00:00:36 | gevaerts | Then the linux-ppc is definitely wrong. Try the linux32x86 one |
| 00:00:42 | ally_xoxooox | i knew it! haha |
| 00:00:47 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: get http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/linux32x86/ipodpatcher |
| 00:01:01 | ally_xoxooox | i was like "hmm 32x86 or ppc" i saw the pcc and thought "oh PC" |
| 00:01:06 | ally_xoxooox | thanks |
| 00:01:06 | Shnaw | so, everyone has already come to the conclusion that the keyclick is garb? |
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| 00:01:34 | ally_xoxooox | ppc = pocket pc? |
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| 00:01:51 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: powerpc. The cpu in older (but not oldest) macs |
| 00:02:00 | stripwax | Shnaw - yes. "may cause nasty noises on the ipod video like it does on the sansa". http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7307 |
| 00:02:09 | pixelma | Shnaw: I think stripwax misunderstood |
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| 00:02:18 | stripwax | I did? |
| 00:02:19 | soundavinci | Again a small stupid question, I installed now the daily build, but I'm not able to keep the backlight on IPOD 60GB |
| 00:02:23 | ally_xoxooox | argh, that link shows up as binary its all giberish, one sec guys |
| 00:02:34 | Shnaw | hm, any chance of me being able to replace or edit this? |
| 00:02:34 | BigBambi | right click, save as |
| 00:02:51 | pixelma | if I understand correctly, Shnaw _wants_ a beeping noise |
| 00:03:26 | stripwax | pixelma - and I think the problem with the keyclick implementation is that it tries to generate a beep and comes out with crap? |
| 00:03:28 | Shnaw | if i knew where the original file was stored i might have a chance at fixing it, |
| 00:03:36 | DerPapst | or use that link: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/linux32x86/ |
| 00:03:42 | ally_xoxooox | yah i got it now |
| 00:03:42 | Shnaw | you both are right |
| 00:03:43 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: ^ |
| 00:03:47 | Shnaw | it gives me crap, i want a beep |
| 00:03:47 | ally_xoxooox | i had to restart x |
| 00:03:51 | rasher | Shnaw: there is no such file |
| 00:04:02 | stripwax | Shnaw - the 'beep' (or even 'click') is not stored as a file, as such |
| 00:04:18 | pixelma | stripwax: I thought the problem was that it sometimes caused a nasty beeeeep on portalplayer devices? |
| 00:04:25 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: overwrite the old one and do "sudo chmod +x ./ipodpatcher |
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| 00:05:04 | ally_xoxooox | [INFO] Ipod found - 1st Generation Nano ("macpod") - /dev/sda |
| 00:05:12 | ally_xoxooox | actually, i thought it was "sda3" |
| 00:05:23 | ally_xoxooox | at least last night it was |
| 00:05:24 | DerPapst | cool :-D |
| 00:05:27 | stripwax | does the sansa have a piezo? |
| 00:05:29 | Shnaw | so where exactly is this sound that resembles a cat in a microwave being called from? |
| 00:05:34 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: sda3 is the data partition. sda is the entire disk |
| 00:05:41 | ally_xoxooox | oh ic |
| 00:05:49 | pixelma | stripwax: don't think so |
| 00:05:49 | stripwax | Shnaw - take a look at the patch, on that link that I posted above |
| 00:05:50 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: wait a sec... |
| 00:05:52 | ally_xoxooox | sure |
| 00:06:06 | stripwax | (said patch is now in svn of course) |
| 00:06:12 | ally_xoxooox | this is what i did last night when i got the error DerPapst and gevaerts |
| 00:06:37 | ally_xoxooox | dd if=mbr-nano2gb.bin of=/dev/sda3 |
| 00:06:41 | pixelma | stripwax: the keyclick sounds exactly the same on my M5 as on my c200 |
| 00:06:51 | ally_xoxooox | then i disconnected it, and plugged it back in |
| 00:06:59 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: do the following: "sudo ./ipodpatcher -c |
| 00:07:01 | DerPapst | " |
| 00:07:04 | ally_xoxooox | and rbulitq didnt recognize the mount |
| 00:07:08 | ally_xoxooox | ok DerPapst |
| 00:07:11 | Shnaw | well, it may just be a problem with the "e" series |
| 00:07:26 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: of course it didn't :-P but that's another topic ;-) |
| 00:07:27 | Shnaw | highly possible since its a totally different build than the "c" series |
| 00:07:37 | ally_xoxooox | ok formated to FAT32 successfully |
| 00:07:44 | DerPapst | nice. |
| 00:07:49 | ally_xoxooox | :) very nice |
| 00:07:53 | Shnaw | edw, fat32 with its allocation tables and such |
| 00:07:57 | DerPapst | now do: "sudo ./ipodpatcher -i" |
| 00:07:58 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: better let someone else verify, but I would guess that should have been 'dd if=mbr-nano2gb.bin of=/dev/sda'. Anyway it's not important now |
| 00:08:19 | ally_xoxooox | yeah gevaerts someone actually said to also do "sda2" |
| 00:08:20 | DerPapst | gregzx |
| 00:08:23 | DerPapst | err.. |
| 00:08:30 | ally_xoxooox | because i have a Mac and he thought it was sda2 |
| 00:08:32 | DerPapst | gevaerts: correct. |
| 00:08:36 | ally_xoxooox | it was just confusing haha |
| 00:08:44 | pixelma | Shnaw: nope, and I think it's sounds as it is supposed to - I mean it's called "keyclick" not "keybeep" ;) |
| 00:09:01 | DerPapst | gregzx: sorry for the highlight :-P |
| 00:09:03 | pixelma | s/it's/it |
| 00:09:03 | * | gevaerts has never actually seen an ipod up close |
| 00:09:06 | Shnaw | but its not a click, it should be aptly names, "keygrind" |
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| 00:09:23 | gregzx | DerPapst: its ok dude :) |
| 00:09:37 | DerPapst | gevaerts: but you know how to dd mbrs ;-) |
| 00:09:49 | gevaerts | DerPapst: gregzx gets used to it. Yesterday it was me. |
| 00:09:53 | ally_xoxooox | hey DerPast: when i run Rockbox Utility it doesnt find the proper mount.. any ideas? |
| 00:09:58 | DerPapst | hehe |
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| 00:10:07 | gregzx | :) |
| 00:10:23 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: did you do "sudo ./ipodpatcher -i" already? |
| 00:10:34 | Shnaw | that gives me an idea, any way to rename menu options, i would guess the names would be stored in a .cfg file am i correct? |
| 00:10:40 | ally_xoxooox | yup |
| 00:11:22 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: mkay. can you extract http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodnano/rockbox.zip to your ipod? |
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| 00:11:36 | ally_xoxooox | let me try |
| 00:11:40 | ally_xoxooox | just drag/drop it? |
| 00:11:41 | gevaerts | DerPapst: does ipodpatcher force the kernel to reload the partition table ? Maybe it needs to be unplugged |
| 00:11:55 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: so that there is a .rockbox directory in your iPods root. |
| 00:12:11 | ally_xoxooox | ok |
| 00:12:15 | DerPapst | gevaerts: good question. i don't know. |
| 00:12:21 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: wait a sec. |
| 00:12:53 | ally_xoxooox | it says permission denied when i try to extract it |
| 00:13:13 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: run: "sfdisk -R /dev/sda" |
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| 00:15:04 | DerPapst | mmhhh... probably root is the only user allowed to write to the ipod now. i don't know how to mount it so that other users are able to write. |
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| 00:15:54 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: try unplugging the ipod, plugging it back in, and then running rbutil |
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| 00:16:19 | DerPapst | shouldn't sfdisk -R /dev/sda do the trieck? |
| 00:16:25 | DerPapst | *trick even |
| 00:16:40 | gevaerts | DerPapst: I'm hoping for some automounter to do some more tricks |
| 00:16:51 | DerPapst | ah, ok |
| 00:17:55 | cdiddy | thanks for the help on the videostuff. looks like me e200 hardware is just messed up |
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| 00:18:11 | ally_xoxooox | pl |
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| 00:19:30 | ally_xoxooox | darn it |
| 00:19:32 | Nook | Hmm, is mozhoven about? |
| 00:19:44 | ally_xoxooox | DerPapst: says "Wrong mount point" when i try to run Rockbox Utility |
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| 00:20:28 | ally_xoxooox | my ipod :( |
| 00:20:31 | scorche|w | Nook: a person with that name has never been in this channel |
| 00:21:28 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: is the ipod mounted somewhere ? i.e. can you put files on it now ? |
| 00:21:29 | ally_xoxooox | DerPapst when i plugged back in my ipod |
| 00:21:36 | ally_xoxooox | it didnt read "allys ipod" |
| 00:21:39 | ally_xoxooox | it now reads "disk" |
| 00:21:41 | ally_xoxooox | weird? |
| 00:21:50 | DerPapst | normal |
| 00:22:06 | DerPapst | that was lost during conversion. |
| 00:22:33 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: do you remeber if ipodpatcher told you that the bootloader installation was successful? |
| 00:22:42 | ally_xoxooox | ok i was able to extract rockbox.zip to my ipod |
| 00:22:48 | DerPapst | cool :-) |
| 00:23:01 | DerPapst | so there is a ".rockbox" dir on your ipod right now? |
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| 00:25:18 | ally_xoxooox | yes! finally working |
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| 00:26:33 | ally_xoxooox | it did |
| 00:26:41 | ally_xoxooox | well DerPapst i ran Rockbox Utility |
| 00:26:46 | ally_xoxooox | it is installing now |
| 00:27:59 | DerPapst | nice :-) |
| 00:28:05 | ally_xoxooox | hope i remmber how to run it on! |
| 00:28:08 | midkay | oh Bagder, wake up! |
| 00:28:10 | ally_xoxooox | is it menu, select? |
| 00:28:16 | * | petur gives up on the CF soft_reset freeze... for now :/ |
| 00:28:48 | * | gevaerts encourages petur to continue. Still lots of hours to go before work starts |
| 00:29:35 | * | petur got NMI from wife ;) |
| 00:29:40 | * | DerPapst thinks ipodpatcher's -c switch should be documented on the IpodConversionToFAT32 wiki. But DerPapst isn't volunteering to add it. He's busy enough with iPodLinux' wiki. |
| 00:29:45 | ally_xoxooox | hey DerPapst: what theme do you use? |
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| 00:30:11 | DerPapst | some modiefied version of... umm.. can't remember :-P |
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| 00:31:45 | DerPapst | i've renamed it too. |
| 00:32:13 | DerPapst | the backdrop is some grass and such. not sure if it exists for nanos too. |
| 00:32:44 | ally_xoxooox | wow my inernet lagged :( |
| 00:33:03 | ally_xoxooox | DerPapst to turn off rockbox is it "menu - select" ? |
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| 00:34:04 | scorche|w | no...that is to reset the ipod |
| 00:34:29 | n1s | ally_xoxooox: maybe try taking a look at the manual? |
| 00:34:38 | ally_xoxooox | looking right now |
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| 00:37:06 | DerPapst | ally_xoxooox: you should get the pdf version of the manual for offline reading. |
| 00:37:56 | DerPapst | there're some pretty neat wps'es for the nano.... |
| 00:39:23 | ally_xoxooox | wpes? |
| 00:39:26 | ally_xoxooox | what are those |
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| 00:41:11 | gevaerts | ally_xoxooox: "while playing screen". Although as far as I know it often also refers to te entire theme |
| 00:41:40 | ally_xoxooox | yeah |
| 00:41:53 | ally_xoxooox | i did a full install with lots of theems :) |
| 00:41:57 | ally_xoxooox | some neat ones i think |
| 00:42:37 | * | gevaerts still prefers the default theme |
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| 00:44:23 | DerPapst | heh... you wouldn't on e.g. an ipod video (or any other dap with a huuuge screen compared to the c200 series) |
| 00:45:19 | gevaerts | Maybe not, but on the other hand I my laptop has these 1400x1050 xterms... |
| 00:45:51 | scorche|w | pah...no one should need more than 80 columns =P |
| 00:46:35 | gevaerts | I don't _need_ more, but I won't refuse them either |
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| 00:47:34 | * | gevaerts would probably mainly use larger screens for more logf output |
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| 00:48:04 | DerPapst | mine has that neat resolution either :-) |
| 00:48:51 | ally_xoxooox | will ipod video wpa work for a nano or no? |
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| 00:49:11 | DerPapst | nope |
| 00:49:24 | DerPapst | only those for ipod nano work for the nano. |
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| 00:49:39 | ally_xoxooox | darn |
| 00:49:45 | ally_xoxooox | nano doesnt have a lot :( |
| 00:49:50 | ally_xoxooox | only 1 theme i like |
| 00:49:51 | ally_xoxooox | hehe |
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| 00:52:27 | DerPapst | noooooo... he was wrong. the night is the best time for coding ;-) |
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| 01:18:30 | rasher | How does the H10 build have a zero combined delta for the language-building changes? |
| 01:19:07 | rasher | H10_5gb |
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| 02:22:28 | major_works | Would putting USE_ROCKBOX_USB in both the makefile and in config-e200.h result in warnings on every line of my Cygwin run? |
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| 02:46:29 | Shnaw | does anyone know why the sansa e200 does not have a "load to ram" option? |
| 02:46:40 | JdGordon | yes |
| 02:46:54 | JdGordon | because it doesnt have dircache... and for some reason it is dependant on it |
| 02:47:20 | Shnaw | then why does the e200 manual for RB say it DOES have the option |
| 02:47:34 | JdGordon | because the manual is wrong |
| 02:48:03 | Shnaw | hm, they encourage us to read a manual that contains such a large oversight |
| 02:48:16 | JdGordon | its really not a massive oversight |
| 02:48:24 | JdGordon | but sure.. whatevr. |
| 02:48:39 | krazykit | Shnaw, so submit a patch fixing the manual. |
| 02:49:49 | Shnaw | not really understanding what youre saying, what I interpret tyhat is, is take http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-430004.2 , and correct the errors in it, then submit the corrected file to rockbox? |
| 02:50:17 | krazykit | Shnaw, no, download the source, fix the Tex source files, and submit a patch like that |
| 02:50:35 | Shnaw | i dont understand how youre supposed to "patch" a web page |
| 02:51:03 | Shnaw | the easies tthing to do would be save the source, fix the errors in an html editor, and submit and submit the fixed page back to them |
| 02:51:45 | krazykit | Shnaw, no, because the web pages are generated from Tex files (which are also used for the PDF manual) |
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| 02:53:13 | Shnaw | well considering i dont know how to edit those |
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| 02:53:47 | krazykit | Shnaw, then file a bug report on the tracker |
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| 02:57:24 | crzyboyster | soap: Are you going to be putting the new Viewports testing builds up? > http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14770.0 |
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| 03:22:05 | kondor | hey should a rockbox'd player automatically be recognized by windows? |
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| 03:23:13 | countrymonkey | If I wanted to make an archos player capable japanese lang file, what glyffs would I be restricted to? |
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| 03:26:38 | advcomp2019 | kondor, what player do you have |
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| 03:28:25 | Llorean | countrymonkey: The archos player has a character cell based display. You can't change fonts on it. You might be better off sticking to romaji. |
| 03:28:59 | Llorean | I'd think you could probably test in the simulator, though. |
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| 03:37:11 | countrymonkey | But then we run into the problem - could we get 1 file for the player and the other hiragana/katakana/kanji file for other units? |
| 03:37:57 | countrymonkey | I would like to see if even hiragana was supported. Romagi is a foreigners' system. |
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| 03:43:51 | Llorean | countrymonkey: I told you, try the sim if you must. |
| 03:45:00 | countrymonkey | the viewer plugin will utilize the full charset? |
| 03:45:27 | countrymonkey | I'll pick up one of rasher's sims. |
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| 04:22:42 | Administrator | anyone on that can help me? |
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| 04:27:51 | advcomp2019 | slizer6893, you need to tell us what first |
| 04:28:15 | slizer6893 | It seems that I installed rockbox awhile ago on my Toshiba F40, and now that I want to revert to my original firmware its impossible |
| 04:28:19 | slizer6893 | I have tried everything |
| 04:28:59 | slizer6893 | Its more about the bootloader loading and me not being able to revert back to an original firmware |
| 04:30:47 | slizer6893 | Any tips, lol now I just get the error no system found on HDD |
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| 04:34:15 | Llorean | Did you back up the files the manual told you to, and restore it when you uninstalled? |
| 04:34:33 | slizer6893 | I did, but not I am a little screwed since I had to reformat my personal HD which I stored them |
| 04:34:37 | slizer6893 | and I forgot they were there |
| 04:34:43 | slizer6893 | and now I am a little fileless |
| 04:35:13 | Llorean | Ah, well you need a copy of them. Sorry, it's the only way. |
| 04:35:21 | slizer6893 | any place i can get them? anywhere? |
| 04:35:22 | Llorean | You'll probably need to find a Gigabeat Room disk or something |
| 04:35:30 | slizer6893 | I have gigabeat room disk |
| 04:35:41 | slizer6893 | but i can't figure out what files I can directly copy and what need to be installed |
| 04:37:14 | slizer6893 | wow this is annoying I went to toshiba for help and they said send it in but I don't think I need to |
| 04:37:28 | slizer6893 | and I feel as if they would say changing firmware breaks any warranty |
| 04:37:36 | Llorean | Well, if the warranty says it does, it does. |
| 04:37:49 | Llorean | That's kinda how they work. |
| 04:37:55 | Llorean | But, why are you removing Rockbox? |
| 04:38:01 | Llorean | What exactly does the original firmware do that you need back? |
| 04:38:09 | slizer6893 | oh I am giving it to my cousin |
| 04:38:23 | slizer6893 | and I figured I would start him with the original if he ever wants something new I could give him rockbox |
| 04:38:40 | slizer6893 | I love rockbox but sometimes it has edges some people can't understand especially since he is 10 |
| 04:40:31 | slizer6893 | any tips |
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| 04:41:47 | Llorean | As I said, dig up replacement copies of the files you lost. |
| 04:41:52 | Llorean | There's really nothing else to say. |
| 04:42:11 | Llorean | We're not so much concerned with the original firmware here, this is #Rockbox, and generally deals with problems people have with Rockbox. |
| 04:42:30 | slizer6893 | ok |
| 04:42:31 | slizer6893 | well |
| 04:42:33 | slizer6893 | then |
| 04:42:37 | slizer6893 | can you help me get back to rockbox at least? |
| 04:42:40 | slizer6893 | I am currently at nothing |
| 04:42:48 | slizer6893 | it just says No system on HDD |
| 04:43:14 | Llorean | Please try to typo complete sentences per line, as per the channel guidelines. |
| 04:43:35 | slizer6893 | ...sorry first time on IRC, forgot to read rules was in a bit of a hurry, my mistake |
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| 04:44:44 | Llorean | You'll need to remove the disk, and turn the device on without a disk, to activate the emergency USB mode, then attach the disk and USB. I'm not sure the exact process, it may be documented in the wiki in the gigabeat section |
| 04:45:46 | slizer6893 | its that original FWIMG01.Dat I need.... |
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| 04:51:02 | Llorean | slizer6893: "myn" is not a real word. Please respect the forum guidelines too. |
| 04:51:22 | slizer6893 | ...I can't use slang for time frame purposes? |
| 04:51:26 | slizer6893 | My bad |
| 04:52:25 | Llorean | If it takes you a long time to type a single extra letter, I'd practice typing |
| 04:52:50 | Llorean | We have many blind users, and users who depend on machine assistance or translation. Typing words that won't appear in dictionaries will cause them difficulty using the forums. |
| 04:55:42 | slizer6893 | I see, ok then. |
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| 05:26:42 | boku | hai, whenever I try to boot Rockbox on my iPod video 80gb I get an error saying rockbox.ipod cannot be found, I am sure I installed it correctly and I looked on the disk and everything seems to be in the right place |
| 05:30:36 | cool_walking_ | What is the full path to rockbox.ipod? |
| 05:30:50 | boku | I used the install script for Linux and it didn't give me any errors, and I'm using FreeBSD 6.3(if that has anything to do with anything) |
| 05:31:09 | boku | hold on, I will check |
| 05:31:14 | scorche | "the install script?" |
| 05:31:20 | cool_walking_ | Which install script? I didn't think there was a script... |
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| 05:31:37 | boku | the one at http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/linux32x86/ipodpatcher |
| 05:31:55 | boku | and then I extracted the zip there |
| 05:32:08 | boku | er, to the root of the disk |
| 05:33:10 | cool_walking_ | So you have a folder called .rockbox, and in that, rockbox.ipod? |
| 05:33:13 | boku | yes |
| 05:34:05 | Llorean | What do you mean by "the root of the disk"? |
| 05:34:06 | Horscht | boku, are you, by any chance using a mac formated ipod? |
| 05:34:14 | boku | no, it is FAT32 |
| 05:34:40 | boku | I just got the disk in the mail about three days ago, and it came with the original firmware on it |
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| 05:35:52 | cool_walking_ | And the OF was in working order? |
| 05:36:03 | cool_walking_ | I'd probably try a restore. |
| 05:36:26 | * | Llorean notes his question wasn't answered. |
| 05:36:51 | Llorean | Many people seem to get confused about the term root, so I'd like you to verify what you personally mean by it. |
| 05:36:51 | Horscht | laters |
| 05:37:15 | boku | oh sorry llorean! |
| 05:37:41 | boku | the root being the first directory on the disk |
| 05:37:51 | boku | like, if I mounted it to /mnt/usb0 then that would be the root |
| 05:38:08 | Llorean | Alright, just making sure |
| 05:38:34 | Llorean | Some people create a folder called "root", or try to put it in the ipod control folder, assuming that by "root" we meant the "firmware folder" or something |
| 05:38:59 | boku | oh alright |
| 05:39:30 | Llorean | But yeah, if you're mounted at /mnt/usb0 then you should have /mnt/usb0/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod |
| 05:40:40 | Horscht | was the HD formated using mkfs.vfat? |
| 05:41:50 | boku | it was already formatted |
| 05:42:14 | Horscht | hm... ok. Well, I am off now, gotta go to school. |
| 05:42:15 | Horscht | lasters |
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| 05:43:02 | boku | ack I'll just come back later, I should be asleep now anyway |
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| 06:12:48 | JdGordon | anyone else having troubles compiling with svn? |
| 06:12:56 | JdGordon | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/jonno/rockbox/e200/max_language_size.h', needed by `/home/jonno/rockbox/e200/apps/filetypes.o'. Stop. |
| 06:13:40 | JdGordon | arg... make bin is broken |
| 06:14:01 | scorche | well, "someone else" usually is http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi but... |
| 06:14:39 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 06:14:41 | * | JdGordon fixes |
| 06:14:49 | JdGordon | dev.cgi only does full make |
| 06:15:26 | * | JdGordon doesnt like the building all langs first |
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| 06:25:14 | Davide-NYC | Question: can anyone tell me if the ZIF connector on the motherboard of a 4G ipod is the same size as them ZIF connector on a toshiba 1.8" HD? |
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| 06:31:39 | thenino | hey two questions, with rockbox can you play videos on an ipod nano, and if you can what format does the video have to be in? |
| 06:33:20 | Llorean | thenino: See the PluginMpegplayer wiki page |
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| 06:33:59 | countrymonkey | videos are playable. They must be in mpg format |
| 06:34:35 | Llorean | countrymonkey: Why did you call it romagi, when as far as all of my research shows it's romaji? |
| 06:34:48 | scorche | mpeg1 or 2....there are other "mpg formats" that mpegplayer will not play |
| 06:36:16 | * | Davide-NYC really hoping to find a ZIF-40 to 50-Pin ribbon cable some day soon. |
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| 06:36:38 | countrymonkey | I have called it romagi for a while now. But I see your point; if you think of it in japanese, it would be "(stressed)ro ma jee) |
| 06:37:02 | rockybox | when I am in the main menu in rockbox is there a way to show the battery meter? |
| 06:37:04 | thenino | Where does the video file need to be so it can be played? |
| 06:37:14 | Llorean | countrymonkey: Just because *you* have called it something, doesn't make it the "proper" name. |
| 06:37:15 | rockybox | it was there this morning and now it is gone |
| 06:37:26 | JdGordon | romaji is english words spelt in japanese letters isnt it? |
| 06:37:26 | Llorean | rockybox: Change the status bar option, as per the manual. |
| 06:37:32 | Llorean | JdGordon: Yes. |
| 06:37:38 | Llorean | No |
| 06:37:40 | Llorean | sorry, misread |
| 06:37:47 | Llorean | Japanese words spelled in the roman alphabet. |
| 06:37:49 | scorche | other way around |
| 06:38:01 | Llorean | thenino: Anywhere, as per the manual |
| 06:38:05 | JdGordon | righto |
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| 06:39:05 | countrymonkey | yes. They have a slightly different way (example: an ee has in tree is written i as in ki which is pronounced kee) |
| 06:39:44 | rockybox | Llorean where in the manual can I find the status bar |
| 06:39:49 | rockybox | *information about it |
| 06:39:53 | Llorean | rockybox: I dunno. Just search it. |
| 06:39:58 | rockybox | ok |
| 06:40:45 | countrymonkey | rockybox: interesting nic! *wonders where it came from* |
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| 06:40:56 | thenino | whats the encode video thing mean? do i need to do that if i have the right file format? |
| 06:41:06 | countrymonkey | no |
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| 06:41:30 | countrymonkey | but you need to scale it |
| 06:41:49 | scorche | so, yes you do unless it is already the correct resolution for your device |
| 06:42:10 | countrymonkey | true |
| 06:42:42 | countrymonkey | he said encode. You don't need to encode it if it's the correct format. You do need to scale it if it isn't the correct resolution. |
| 06:44:00 | Llorean | countrymonkey: And you can't scale it without decoding it, scaling the output, and re-encoding it |
| 06:44:03 | Llorean | Thus, you have to encode. |
| 06:44:47 | countrymonkey | when it boils down to that, you do, yes. |
| 06:45:20 | scorche | what else would it boil down to? |
| 06:45:21 | Llorean | Then why did you say "no" one someone said you did? |
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| 06:46:17 | countrymonkey | I'm half asleep. I am suffering from jetlag. (in japan, from us) |
| 06:46:22 | Llorean | Then don't speak. |
| 06:46:31 | Llorean | Seriously, you can't help anyone by getting things wrong because you're tired. |
| 06:47:05 | countrymonkey | I'm outa here. |
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| 06:57:54 | thenino | Why is the video only half on the screen? |
| 06:59:37 | at0m|c | thenino, is it in the same resolution as the screen? |
| 06:59:52 | thenino | i dont know |
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| 07:00:01 | thenino | how do i change it so it is? |
| 07:00:10 | at0m|c | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#How_To_Encode_Files |
| 07:00:29 | thenino | wait, can i do it buy changing the dimensions of the video? |
| 07:00:47 | at0m|c | thenino, rockbox' mplayer doesn't resize afaik. slow cpu eh |
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| 07:01:55 | scorche | mpegplayer...wouldnt want to get the wrong idea |
| 07:03:08 | at0m|c | oop |
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| 07:14:15 | amiconn | Bagder, markun: The 'newplayers' (those with the newer LCD type - that's the majority of all archos Players) support halfwidth katakana. So these players could support a japanese .lng file, but it would need to be specially adjusted to use halfwidth katakana for the player. |
| 07:15:26 | amiconn | I.e. <dest> / (other targets): (kanji string(s)) / player: (hw_katakana string) / </dest> |
| 07:15:36 | Bagder | "I just care about our Japanese lang file, not any theoretical future use..." |
| 07:15:45 | Bagder | :-) |
| 07:16:24 | amiconn | I am a bit curious how that would look like - I don't think there would be many users |
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| 07:17:15 | Bagder | I doubt it would get a single user |
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| 07:24:02 | JdGordon | hey Bagder, I wasnt sure if I should make tools depend on langs so I did that commit how it is.. that ok? |
| 07:24:15 | JdGordon | and it looks like the langs cant be done in parallel? |
| 07:25:08 | JdGordon | s/cant/arnt |
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| 07:38:09 | * | amiconn thinks JdGordon means bin, not tools |
| 07:38:26 | JdGordon | no... i mean tools |
| 07:38:31 | JdGordon | the coomit fixed it for bin |
| 07:38:44 | JdGordon | but it probably means make codecs and make rocks will fail |
| 07:39:23 | amiconn | Well, I slightly misread your question |
| 07:40:21 | JdGordon | hmm... yeah, I could have made that a bit more intelligable :p |
| 07:40:26 | amiconn | Imho making tools depend on langs would be slightly odd |
| 07:41:12 | amiconn | Not sure, but I don't think rocks or codecs would break if the langs aren't there |
| 07:41:15 | amiconn | Worth a test |
| 07:42:02 | JdGordon | yeah, making tool depend on langs didnt sound right to me either |
| 07:42:50 | JdGordon | has anyone checked how often the langs are rebuilt? if they start getting annoying can a way to skip all but english be added? |
| 07:43:13 | amiconn | We need *all* languages made before the core now |
| 07:43:37 | amiconn | They're needed to figure out the language buffer size |
| 07:43:58 | JdGordon | no *we* dont.... the build table does.... *I* dont need any but english and its irritating waiting longer than nescacery for the build to get finished |
| 07:44:48 | JdGordon | same reason as make bin was added... just to speed up our test builds |
| 07:45:05 | JdGordon | ... I dont know how often they are going to be rebuilt so i dont know if its needed or not yet |
| 07:45:41 | amiconn | I would expect them to be rebuilt only if the respective .lang gets changed |
| 07:46:20 | JdGordon | thats wrong though... |
| 07:46:35 | JdGordon | they need to be rebuilt when any of the feautre set gets changed |
| 07:47:09 | amiconn | Ah, yes, that too |
| 07:47:30 | amiconn | Btw, 'make rocks' in a fresh build dir breaks, but not because of the missing languages |
| 07:47:55 | amiconn | oldmenuapi.c (in the plugin lib) needs sysfont.h for some reason |
| 07:50:09 | JdGordon | sysfont.h means something else is missing usualy doesnt it? |
| 07:50:17 | amiconn | There are a few more dependency quirks, like 'make rocks' building the core bitmaps |
| 07:50:38 | cool_walking_ | I got sysfont.h errors from bitmaps not converting properly, I think. |
| 07:50:52 | * | amiconn is calling for a Makefile expert |
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| 08:18:23 | mrkiko | Hi all! |
| 08:18:35 | mrkiko | I'm sorry for my unresponsivity these days - I' m prettily overloaded |
| 08:19:04 | mrkiko | Now ... I think I've found a problem but prior to post a bug report I would be happy to know if this is a desired behavour. |
| 08:19:25 | mrkiko | At least with fading disabled for stop and pause, when I pause the audio the voice stops speaking. |
| 08:19:48 | mrkiko | When I unpause it, the voice says all it would have said when I made some actions with audio paused. |
| 08:19:56 | GodEater | mrkiko: desirable or othewise, it's known behaviour |
| 08:20:04 | mrkiko | I can reproduce this for sure on a iRiver H340 ; |
| 08:20:10 | GodEater | voice is tightly coupled to playback at the moment |
| 08:20:31 | mrkiko | GodEater: but having this behaviour ... |
| 08:20:45 | mrkiko | may cause problem in my opinion to blind users, especially when you want to use bookmarks |
| 08:20:50 | LinusN | mrkiko: no, it is not desired, but that's unfortunately how the playback works currently |
| 08:20:50 | mrkiko | or... |
| 08:21:16 | LinusN | we intend to rework the playback so that voice can be played when the music is paused |
| 08:21:25 | GodEater | at some point... :D |
| 08:21:31 | mrkiko | if you want just change something without stopping - resuming the playnback |
| 08:21:42 | jhMikeS | aliask: I just cut off the IRAM because it seems better to use for other purposes. It works and the bootloader uses it for executing the remapping stub. The serial driver hangs because writing to the TX fifo doesn't trigger the transfer. Forcing it by writing the XCH does work (along with IPG_CLK/32). |
| 08:22:22 | mrkiko | Then I have a relatively stupid question. |
| 08:22:35 | mrkiko | I remember that when I had my remoter controller |
| 08:22:46 | aliask | jhMikeS: So there's some problem with the actual module - because it's configured to start a burst on txfifo write |
| 08:22:49 | mrkiko | keeping play pressed for a while I was able to access a non-voiced screen where I was able |
| 08:22:53 | mrkiko | to change the playback speed. |
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| 08:23:21 | mrkiko | Is there a way to access that screen without the remote controller? I can't do that pressing play (for long also) or keeping NAVI (select) pressed |
| 08:23:26 | LinusN | mrkiko: which player model? |
| 08:23:36 | mrkiko | H340, EU version |
| 08:24:25 | jhMikeS | aliask: I know it is but for some reason it's not doing as it says it should. |
| 08:24:53 | JdGordon | where is features.txt? |
| 08:25:04 | mrkiko | then, i noted that if I choose a bookmark while the player is playing another file (or the same),something unexpected (to me at least) happen. rockbox play for a short while from the point the bookmark specifies on, then it stops. With 'resume playbac', I have the song start from the beginning. |
| 08:25:20 | mrkiko | but this seems a normal thing... |
| 08:25:29 | LinusN | mrkiko: i think the pitch screen is part of the WPS context menu nowadays |
| 08:26:02 | mrkiko | LinusN: surely I can't find it in the menu appearing keeping navi pressed (the one from which for example you can give a rate to a song) |
| 08:26:17 | jhMikeS | aliask: there's also that matter of EPIT1 not actually firing an interrupt until a WFI is executed in sleep_core even though the timer is functioning. |
| 08:26:24 | LinusN | JdGordon: features.txt is generated, isn't it? |
| 08:26:36 | LinusN | mrkiko: hmmm |
| 08:26:56 | mrkiko | aniway guys: rockbox siply rocks, it works very good these days |
| 08:27:11 | JdGordon | na, found it it apps |
| 08:27:20 | mrkiko | It is not crashing anymore on my player - I disabled the -cue sheet support - to obtain this. |
| 08:27:28 | aliask | jhMikeS: Only EPIT1 or all EPITs? |
| 08:27:29 | * | JdGordon was expecting it in tools for some reason |
| 08:29:10 | jhMikeS | aliask: I never used any other EPITs. I can see it by splashing the current tick and timer count in a loop before any sleeps are executed. The timer counts but the tick doesn't. If you execute a sleep() just before the loop, the tick then counts. |
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| 08:30:05 | mrkiko | Then: why are we currently not saving the sleep timer? I red it in the manual but I can't imagine the reason for this. |
| 08:30:21 | mrkiko | I use it to prevent the player from going all night when I fall asleep :) |
| 08:30:40 | aliask | jhMikeS: Odd behaviour - however I don't think I'm going to be much help, I really don't understand much of the ARM core |
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| 08:31:55 | mrkiko | I 've not said what I would like to: "why are we" = "why is rockbox..." |
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| 08:36:06 | LinusN | mrkiko: yeah, we could probably save the sleep timer setting |
| 08:36:24 | jhMikeS | aliask: It has alot of strange glitchyness |
| 08:37:05 | aliask | jhMikeS: Do you think the OF bootloader could be getting some clocking things set up incorrectly (which are then fixed by the OF once it's booted) |
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| 08:39:37 | jhMikeS | aliask: Not sure though I did dump the clocking registers and what I checked looked allright. |
| 08:39:50 | mrkiko | LinusN: I was thinking there was some reason behind not saving this |
| 08:40:04 | LinusN | mrkiko: not really |
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| 08:42:26 | amiconn | LinusN: I have a question regarding GPIO 9 on iriver H1x0 |
| 08:42:33 | LinusN | amiconn: i know..... |
| 08:42:41 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments says it's disk led control |
| 08:42:41 | LinusN | and i must say that i don't remember |
| 08:43:11 | LinusN | when i first traced the pcb, i traced that port pin to the LED driver transistor |
| 08:43:22 | amiconn | But switching that to the opposite of what the init in svn does doesn't disable the led, neither on my H180 nor on FrankOtto's iriver |
| 08:43:54 | LinusN | i guess i have to trace it again |
| 08:44:22 | amiconn | Do you think there might be several hardware revisions, of which only the earlier ones have that switch? |
| 08:44:34 | LinusN | possibly |
| 08:45:28 | mrkiko | LinusN: if I want to debug the iRiver H3xx OF (yes, I know I may not), should I disassemble and trace the execution with a debugger? |
| 08:45:41 | mrkiko | Or just avoid this? :) |
| 08:46:14 | LinusN | mrkiko: connecting a debugger is not for the faint of heart |
| 08:46:38 | amiconn | I have a somewhat related question as well - would it be possible to disable ISD300 power normally, and only enable it when an usb connection is detected, or does disabling the bridge make usb connections undetectable? |
| 08:46:42 | mrkiko | faint of heart -> I don't know this term |
| 08:46:43 | LinusN | it takes some tricky soldering and a coldfire bdm adapter |
| 08:46:52 | mrkiko | ah ok |
| 08:47:08 | LinusN | better disassemble the firmware image |
| 08:47:26 | mrkiko | infact I wanted to do it with my host |
| 08:47:27 | amiconn | (GPIO 6 on H1x0, GPIO 35 on H300) |
| 08:47:29 | mrkiko | *pc* |
| 08:48:15 | amiconn | Doing that might extend rockbox runtime on irivers even further... |
| 08:48:44 | * | mrkiko thinks it would be VERY good |
| 08:48:51 | LinusN | amiconn: i don't remember if the usb detection makes use of the ISD300 or not |
| 08:49:21 | LinusN | so now i have 2 things to trace |
| 08:50:59 | amiconn | The ISD reads its parameters from an i2c eeprom, right? |
| 08:51:11 | LinusN | yes, and we can change those if we want to |
| 08:51:17 | amiconn | Oh, we can? |
| 08:51:27 | LinusN | yes, the i2c bus is connected |
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| 08:51:52 | Link_of_Hyrule | hey |
| 08:51:54 | Link_of_Hyrule | i need help |
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| 08:52:08 | Link_of_Hyrule | hey |
| 08:52:09 | LinusN | amiconn: check the schematics |
| 08:52:12 | Link_of_Hyrule | anyone here |
| 08:52:17 | amiconn | The table on p.51 of the datasheet lists some typical currents. |
| 08:52:19 | Link_of_Hyrule | i need help |
| 08:52:31 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: we can hear you, just ask the question |
| 08:52:50 | Link_of_Hyrule | ok i have a sansa c250 i cant seem to find information about it |
| 08:52:52 | amiconn | It depends on whether usb wakeup is enabled. If not, standby current is only 20µA, so neglectible, but with wakeup it's 2.7mA |
| 08:53:08 | LinusN | amiconn: i see |
| 08:53:11 | Link_of_Hyrule | it doesnt seem to have the usb setting in the menu as said in the manual |
| 08:53:32 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: some versions of the sansa firmware doesn't have that option |
| 08:53:46 | LinusN | for some reason |
| 08:53:49 | Link_of_Hyrule | is there a way to update it to use rockbox though? |
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| 08:54:23 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#No_MSC_Mode |
| 08:54:51 | Link_of_Hyrule | what language is rockbox coded in? |
| 08:54:57 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: C and assembler |
| 08:55:16 | Link_of_Hyrule | ahh ok |
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| 08:58:08 | Link_of_Hyrule | omfg who ever made this scroll info screen should be shot |
| 08:58:38 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh how do i find out what my firmware number is? |
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| 09:02:01 | LinusN | not sure, i don't have a sansa myself |
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| 09:02:35 | Link_of_Hyrule | dang i dont know if this is going to work |
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| 09:03:01 | Link_of_Hyrule | i guess i dont really need it but that sdhc support would have been nice once the prices would go down |
| 09:03:12 | Link_of_Hyrule | if i do get it to work does that mean i get video support? |
| 09:03:23 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:03:35 | Link_of_Hyrule | nice |
| 09:03:40 | Link_of_Hyrule | it only has pic support atm |
| 09:03:47 | Link_of_Hyrule | even if the screen is small that would be kinda cool |
| 09:04:00 | Link_of_Hyrule | with 8gb micro sd card can hold a alot |
| 09:04:07 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule>: use of words as "omgf" is not allowed here. Please read guideliness... |
| 09:04:15 | Link_of_Hyrule | sorry |
| 09:04:31 | LinusN | besides, isn't it "omfg" ;-) |
| 09:04:39 | Link_of_Hyrule | and technically i did type it wrong :P |
| 09:04:56 | Link_of_Hyrule | but ill refrain from useing it again sorry |
| 09:05:30 | Link_of_Hyrule | even sandisks own software doesnt know what my device is |
| 09:05:37 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: for me there is no problem, but I don't like seeing people kicked out ... |
| 09:05:40 | Link_of_Hyrule | i dont get why companies do this stuff |
| 09:10:45 | mrkiko | I saw in the svn ... "Revert the espeak commit as the method was completely broken.": |
| 09:10:54 | mrkiko | what are you doing regarding espeak now? |
| 09:11:03 | mrkiko | Have i lost something ? |
| 09:11:19 | mrkiko | Reading the doc, I deduced |
| 09:11:32 | mrkiko | you only added a method to create the voice file using espeak and not festival |
| 09:11:34 | mrkiko | but I may be wrong |
| 09:11:37 | Link_of_Hyrule | why did sandisk give me a c200 cd and manual and then the update software doesnt detect my device |
| 09:11:38 | Link_of_Hyrule | lol |
| 09:12:01 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: very very very strange |
| 09:12:23 | Link_of_Hyrule | its a c250 |
| 09:12:26 | Link_of_Hyrule | idk |
| 09:12:29 | Link_of_Hyrule | it looks the same |
| 09:12:41 | Link_of_Hyrule | i dont know what is exactly supose to be different about it compared to the c200 |
| 09:12:46 | LinusN | mrkiko: that was an option for selecting which espeak voice to use, but it was broken |
| 09:13:35 | scorche | Link_of_Hyrule: c200 is a general name that refers to the entire c200 line (c250, c260, c270, c280) |
| 09:13:36 | mrkiko | I was "dreaming" about run-time tts feature being added... |
| 09:13:55 | LinusN | mrkiko: would be cool |
| 09:14:18 | Link_of_Hyrule | well thats what i thought |
| 09:14:30 | mrkiko | LinusN: but I think it would get our CPUs mad. |
| 09:14:42 | LinusN | mrkiko: not necessarily |
| 09:14:42 | Link_of_Hyrule | but idk when i try to use the update utility it says it doesnt know what it is lol |
| 09:15:09 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: "idk"? "lol"? |
| 09:15:39 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: what if you download the update utility from their website? |
| 09:16:11 | Link_of_Hyrule | it probably has an updated firmware that cant be moded with my luck |
| 09:16:18 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh i tried that |
| 09:16:53 | Link_of_Hyrule | ill use this recovery tool thing i guess |
| 09:16:59 | Link_of_Hyrule | not llike i care about the songs on it |
| 09:17:17 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: prefacing I don't have a sansa, have you tried the recovery mode? |
| 09:17:32 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh i tried to get it to go into it and nothing happened |
| 09:17:32 | mrkiko | If I'm not wrong, here you can upload a modified version of the firmware image... |
| 09:17:33 | Link_of_Hyrule | LOL |
| 09:17:35 | Link_of_Hyrule | read this |
| 09:17:41 | LinusN | Link_of_Hyrule: also make sure you have a V1 and not a V2 |
| 09:17:56 | mrkiko | so, search for "audible" in some place |
| 09:18:01 | Link_of_Hyrule | i tried to but it doesnt say anywhere on my device |
| 09:18:58 | Link_of_Hyrule | it syas "Sorry, we are unable to recover your device" "Please call SanDisk at # for assistance" lol |
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| 09:22:20 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: then, in my opinion, it would be better if you don't try to use rockbox on this player. |
| 09:22:45 | mrkiko | or you may end up being unable to use it |
| 09:22:53 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh with my luck probably |
| 09:23:16 | Link_of_Hyrule | but it makes me mad that the software that came with it to update doesnt even recognise it |
| 09:23:17 | Link_of_Hyrule | lol |
| 09:23:20 | mrkiko | I'm very worried by the fact that many player on which rockbox runs are getting out of production - seel |
| 09:23:24 | mrkiko | *sell* |
| 09:23:51 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: probably MP3 players are not relevant in many cases for a company |
| 09:24:08 | mrkiko | so that they may not spend much money - man-resources in developing software regarding them. |
| 09:24:16 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh |
| 09:25:31 | Link_of_Hyrule | i found some info on it |
| 09:25:36 | Link_of_Hyrule | on the device on version.sdk |
| 09:25:44 | Link_of_Hyrule | 01.01.05P |
| 09:27:15 | GodEater | that's a V1 then |
| 09:28:45 | Link_of_Hyrule | ahh |
| 09:28:47 | Link_of_Hyrule | ok |
| 09:29:12 | Link_of_Hyrule | well im still not sure how to get it into recovery mode when i press and hold the buttons is the screen supose to turn on? |
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| 09:32:40 | Link_of_Hyrule | im so stupid |
| 09:32:44 | Link_of_Hyrule | i was pressing the wrong button |
| 09:32:46 | Link_of_Hyrule | :( |
| 09:33:18 | mrkiko | Link_of_Hyrule: stay tuned, bricking your player is very very easy... |
| 09:33:35 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh |
| 09:33:38 | Link_of_Hyrule | i hope it doesnt do that |
| 09:33:41 | Link_of_Hyrule | would be gay |
| 09:33:41 | scorche | mrkiko: no it isnt |
| 09:33:49 | Bagder | bricking a sansa is next to impossible |
| 09:35:50 | * | petur hands a hammer |
| 09:37:43 | Link_of_Hyrule | ahh it could not be plugged into a port |
| 09:37:46 | Link_of_Hyrule | i got it :P |
| 09:37:59 | Link_of_Hyrule | i mean a hub |
| 09:38:16 | mrkiko | ... next to impossible becomes possible some times :) |
| 09:40:04 | Link_of_Hyrule | sweet now it has usb setting |
| 09:40:05 | Link_of_Hyrule | ok |
| 09:40:12 | Link_of_Hyrule | now if i install rockbox and i dont like it |
| 09:40:15 | Link_of_Hyrule | can i revert? |
| 09:40:26 | GodEater | yes, when using a hammer |
| 09:40:32 | Link_of_Hyrule | lol what |
| 09:41:59 | Link_of_Hyrule | no siriusly |
| 09:42:02 | Link_of_Hyrule | can i revert? |
| 09:44:01 | LinusN | yes you can |
| 09:44:05 | Link_of_Hyrule | ok |
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| 09:46:58 | Link_of_Hyrule | sweet its working |
| 09:47:10 | markun | lol |
| 09:47:17 | Link_of_Hyrule | lets hope i dont have a $70 brick in 5 min |
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| 09:48:11 | Link_of_Hyrule | i think its funny how after hacking the firmware sandisks own software starts working correctly |
| 09:48:11 | Link_of_Hyrule | lol |
| 09:51:00 | Link_of_Hyrule | wiki told me about rockbox lol |
| 09:51:36 | markun | which wiki? |
| 09:51:40 | Link_of_Hyrule | wikipedia |
| 09:52:05 | Link_of_Hyrule | i was looking to see what cards my device supported and it said sdhc with rockbox and im like whats that so i click the link |
| 09:52:23 | Link_of_Hyrule | cus i know that they just came out with the 32gb sdhc cards and 8gb micro sdhc |
| 09:52:51 | Link_of_Hyrule | if its installed will it look different? |
| 09:53:07 | Link_of_Hyrule | cus it looks exactly the same as b4 |
| 09:53:30 | LinusN | then you haven't installed it properly |
| 09:54:00 | Link_of_Hyrule | i used the auto installer thign |
| 09:54:02 | Link_of_Hyrule | thing |
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| 09:57:04 | Link_of_Hyrule | i think its cus the boot loader wasnt installed |
| 09:57:08 | Link_of_Hyrule | i guess i can restart now |
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| 09:57:51 | Link_of_Hyrule | cool it worked |
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| 10:00:37 | Link_of_Hyrule | hmm i kinda like the other interface better but i think its kinda cool to have these extra games and stuff |
| 10:00:48 | Link_of_Hyrule | too bad someone cant make an interface clone |
| 10:01:10 | petur | Link_of_Hyrule: there are plenty of themes you can install |
| 10:01:31 | Link_of_Hyrule | let me see if i can find the download page for them :P |
| 10:01:59 | petur | I thought they were also in that automatic install thingy |
| 10:02:09 | Link_of_Hyrule | there were only 2 |
| 10:02:32 | petur | some are pre-installed... |
| 10:02:37 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh i saw those |
| 10:04:34 | GodEater | petur: there are very few themes for the c200 stored anywhere useful |
| 10:04:43 | petur | oh |
| 10:04:47 | GodEater | scorche keeps threatening to finish the new themes site to address that |
| 10:04:48 | Link_of_Hyrule | yeh |
| 10:04:49 | Link_of_Hyrule | only 3 |
| 10:04:51 | GodEater | but he has't done it yet |
| 10:04:54 | Link_of_Hyrule | they arent very good |
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| 10:07:05 | Link_of_Hyrule | lol how do i play music on this thing lol |
| 10:07:46 | petur | reading the manual helps |
| 10:08:00 | Link_of_Hyrule | who reads manuals lol jk |
| 10:08:17 | GodEater | you're about to if you want any more help |
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| 10:12:48 | Link_of_Hyrule | my device went back to the old interface lol |
| 10:13:19 | Link_of_Hyrule | its a dual boot thing right |
| 10:13:34 | Link_of_Hyrule | so is it like a moded xbox i press a certain button to boot into rockbox? |
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| 10:14:09 | GodEater | read the manual |
| 10:16:02 | Link_of_Hyrule | aww ok press and hold left easy enough then |
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| 10:21:49 | Link_of_Hyrule | how long does it useually take to make the database? |
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| 10:47:22 | magmaniac | Hello. Does somebody know at what battery level rockbox on the iriver H1x0 *should* shut down by itself? |
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| 10:50:51 | markun | magmaniac: according to http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5B.htm you should never go below 2.5 volt |
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| 10:52:35 | pixelma | markun: ? |
| 10:52:46 | markun | hi |
| 10:53:03 | pixelma | just wonder about your answer... |
| 10:53:19 | markun | maybe I didn't understand his question completely |
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| 10:53:48 | magmaniac | markun: that link gives general precautions for battery handling |
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| 10:54:26 | markun | magmaniac: what are you asking exactly? |
| 10:54:38 | petur | magmaniac: there is a table in the source somewhere that has the voltage to % conversion, it probably gives an idea of the range. |
| 10:54:54 | petur | don't remember which file has that table |
| 10:54:56 | pixelma | I think he asks about the shutdown voltage |
| 10:54:57 | magmaniac | My question is: Rockbox continually measures the voltage, and at some battery level which is considered low, it forces the device to shut down. I want to know what that level is exactly |
| 10:55:18 | petur | pixelma: I thought it was in the same file |
| 10:55:44 | petur | as it contains two warning levels iirc |
| 10:56:19 | magmaniac | petur: I saw that table, but then at what *percentage* is shutdown forced? |
| 10:56:24 | markun | petur: I thought it was in firmware/powermgmt.c but I can't find it in there anymore |
| 10:56:36 | petur | markun: me too |
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| 10:56:59 | pondlife | pixelma: Around? |
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| 10:57:06 | magmaniac | firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/h100/powermgmt-h100.c |
| 10:57:11 | pixelma | pondlife: yes |
| 10:57:18 | pondlife | "00.06.41 # <pixelma> stripwax: the keyclick sounds exactly the same on my M5 as on my c200" |
| 10:57:33 | pondlife | Can you explain more - do you get a beep, a click or a grind? |
| 10:57:50 | petur | magmaniac: those first lines of that file say it all |
| 10:58:10 | pondlife | I'd have expected a click on the M5 but a grind or beep on the C200... |
| 10:58:21 | magmaniac | Aha, so shutdown should occur at 3020 mV. |
| 10:58:23 | markun | magmaniac: battery_level_shutoff is set to 3020 milivolt |
| 10:58:27 | markun | :) |
| 10:59:41 | magmaniac | Now I wonder my in my battery benchmark with vanilla rockbox (and original HD inside), it shutdown at 3591 mV ... |
| 10:59:54 | magmaniac | s/my/why/ |
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| 11:01:02 | petur | magmaniac: battery getting old? |
| 11:01:07 | magmaniac | Or does battery benchmark maybe override rockbox's shutdown and force a shutdown earlier? |
| 11:01:48 | magmaniac | petur: In the later CF benchmark, it went down to 3320 mV, and I shut it down myself (I felt unsafe about it). |
| 11:01:51 | petur | when the battery gets old, there is a sudden voltage drop and RB probably couldn't save the last measurements |
| 11:02:27 | petur | whatever |
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| 11:03:02 | pixelma | pondlife: to me it sounded like a "click" (but a bit like the sound was clipping) and I just enabled it again on c200 and when leaving the system menu, I got the nasty beeeep (which only stopped on a button press) |
| 11:03:03 | magmaniac | petur: ok, that might explain it |
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| 11:03:20 | * | petur sent a support request to A-Data - doesn't expext much of it but it won't hurt either |
| 11:03:42 | magmaniac | petur: battery is the original one (3 years old), I guess it can be considered old :) |
| 11:03:47 | amiconn | The last measurement(s) before the forced shutdown are never saved in battery_bench |
| 11:04:09 | amiconn | That is since the forced shutdown because of low voltage suppresses any disk writes |
| 11:04:10 | petur | sounds logical |
| 11:04:15 | magmaniac | amiconn: ah thanks |
| 11:04:35 | magmaniac | then probably by shutting it down myself I got a few more lines in the CF benchmark |
| 11:05:07 | djmutex|w | hi. sorry if this is off-topic, but i'm planning to buy a new hard disk player and i'd really appreciate feedback on what device you guys would recomment to run rockbox on. (i'd buy an ipod 160GB but the 6G is not supported, right?) if this is off-topic, please tell me to go away. thanks. :-) |
| 11:05:33 | petur | amiconn: I guess you don't have any ideas why soft_reset causes the freezing... |
| 11:06:28 | magmaniac | petur: concerning freezes, I was wrong (once again). The build I used yesterday for my CF battery benchmark (which never froze) has frozen today at least three times, once even on first disk access. Meh. |
| 11:06:52 | pixelma | pondlife: it really almost sounds the same, except the beeping. When I compare directly it only seems like the M5 keyclick is a little bit more "clear". |
| 11:07:33 | petur | magmaniac: did you also try without soft_reset? ie replace the #ifdef IPODNANO with #if 0 |
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| 11:07:57 | magmaniac | petur: was about to do that now :) |
| 11:08:05 | pixelma | magmaniac: frozen as in "needs a paperclip"? |
| 11:08:11 | petur | no |
| 11:08:12 | magmaniac | yes |
| 11:08:16 | magmaniac | :) |
| 11:08:16 | petur | lol |
| 11:08:34 | magmaniac | petur: explain your freezes then |
| 11:08:49 | petur | when I say freezing, it stops responding for about 30 seconds |
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| 11:08:59 | petur | but all disk reads fail |
| 11:09:06 | magmaniac | ah |
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| 11:09:17 | magmaniac | I never waited that long... :-/ |
| 11:09:27 | petur | it is always in wait_for_bsy |
| 11:09:31 | amiconn | petur: Did you try those PIO0 timing (in case your calculations led to shorter ones)? The soft reset is required for waking up from sleep as per ata standard afaiu |
| 11:09:34 | petur | when doing a READ |
| 11:09:36 | magmaniac | let's see if I can reproduce that... |
| 11:09:52 | petur | amiconn: the PIO0 timings didn't change a thing |
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| 11:10:13 | petur | amiconn: I even tried maximum values |
| 11:10:27 | LinusN | petur: what is the issue? |
| 11:10:45 | petur | without soft_reset and using PIO4 timings works stable now |
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| 11:10:52 | pixelma | I was just asking, because my unmodded M5 occasionally freezes for no apparent reason too (and then needs a hard reset) ... and I know that amiconn also experiences on his H180. |
| 11:11:07 | pixelma | +this |
| 11:11:09 | petur | LinusN: to get CF working, we also need to remove perform_soft_reset() |
| 11:11:17 | LinusN | ah i see |
| 11:11:33 | LinusN | i haven't yet received my cf card |
| 11:11:52 | petur | and then there is the issue that causes the ata -80 error |
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| 11:12:08 | LinusN | petur: which card is that? |
| 11:12:12 | petur | when trying to set powermanagement the card does an ABORT |
| 11:12:24 | LinusN | wow |
| 11:12:25 | petur | A-Data turbo 266x (8GB) |
| 11:12:38 | magmaniac | ata -80 issue also on Transcend 133x (2GB) |
| 11:12:54 | LinusN | but not on transcend 32GB, right? |
| 11:13:02 | magmaniac | card spec says that the feature is supported |
| 11:13:15 | magmaniac | I don't have a 32GB one |
| 11:13:25 | petur | Jeff has I think |
| 11:13:39 | * | magmaniac thinks so too |
| 11:14:10 | LinusN | so we have the same issue on two different brands? |
| 11:14:16 | * | magmaniac thinks that Jeff also reported ata -80 in the forums |
| 11:14:30 | LinusN | i have ordered a 32GB card |
| 11:15:11 | magmaniac | LinusN: transcend? |
| 11:15:16 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:15:40 | magmaniac | most online shops here (germany) say "not available currently" |
| 11:15:52 | magmaniac | even the transcend.de online shop! |
| 11:16:01 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:17:37 | petur | hmmm 150 euro on ebay (from Germany!) |
| 11:19:22 | magmaniac | ah, my player just froze... ok it does react again after some time, though I get a white screen instead of the Files view. I could naviagte the menu again afterwards and issue a shutdown, which then hung for some time. |
| 11:19:51 | petur | right, same as I saw |
| 11:20:13 | petur | which allows me to go into debug and look at the logf :) |
| 11:20:58 | magmaniac | petur: what changes exactly make it stable for you? disable the soft_reset code, and something about PIO4 timings? |
| 11:21:26 | petur | magmaniac: afaik, I only disabled soft_reset |
| 11:21:37 | petur | I reverted most other changes |
| 11:21:43 | magmaniac | ok, will try |
| 11:21:49 | petur | still littered with logf though |
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| 11:22:17 | petur | magmaniac: replace the #ifdef IPODNANO with #if 0 |
| 11:23:16 | magmaniac | For the record: with CF the battery drains 14% slower than with HD. |
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| 11:26:39 | petur | kdevelop does it too |
| 11:29:58 | petur | LinusN: when this CF stuff is over, I'll have a look at why the svn bootloader doesn't like my h380... |
| 11:30:24 | LinusN | could be related |
| 11:30:45 | petur | well it doesn't give an error, it just hangs |
| 11:31:20 | petur | oh I see |
| 11:31:29 | petur | reset related |
| 11:32:47 | magmaniac | petur: without soft reset, I still get the constantly-on LED. will rebuild with my hack for this issue. |
| 11:33:22 | petur | maybe LinusN can help with that LED issue |
| 11:34:49 | magmaniac | LinusN: the reason why amiconn asked you about the GPIO pin for the disk LED on the iriver H1x0 was me... |
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| 11:35:20 | LinusN | magmaniac: so the led is constantly on, but the card works fine otherwise? |
| 11:35:59 | magmaniac | LinusN: when my CF-modded H120 calls ide_power_enable(false) from ata_thread(), the disk LED comes on, and stays on, until I do another "real" disk access. Card works fine AFAICT. |
| 11:36:46 | magmaniac | Also: the CF adapter has a LED too, which however stays off during this. For real disk accesses, they are in sync. |
| 11:36:54 | LinusN | sounds like the cf card draws power from somewhere else |
| 11:37:15 | petur | was my thinking too |
| 11:37:56 | magmaniac | could be the adapter too, this stuff from HK is too cheap... |
| 11:39:28 | LinusN | magmaniac: this model? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290202472847 |
| 11:39:57 | magmaniac | Exactly, yes |
| 11:40:11 | LinusN | i have that too, but no cf card... |
| 11:40:19 | petur | looks like mine too (but got it elsewhere) |
| 11:40:43 | magmaniac | I think their build quality is varying, to put it mildly... |
| 11:40:52 | petur | I have three CF cards and all three gave ata -80, didn't check the freezing yet |
| 11:41:42 | magmaniac | LinusN: so far I'm the only one who has experienced this LED behaviour |
| 11:41:48 | LinusN | oh |
| 11:42:09 | petur | my h320 doesn't have a led, remember ;) |
| 11:42:40 | magmaniac | petur: right. But Davide-NYC didn't see it on his H120. Different card, though. |
| 11:43:05 | LinusN | we'll see if i see it when i get my cf |
| 11:44:14 | magmaniac | maybe I'll order another adapter from dealextreme, they ship free... and it's not even 4 euros. |
| 11:49:47 | magmaniac | LinusN: Eventually I also wanted to get the 32GB transcend card. The only other 32GB card I've seen is the A-Data "speedy", which most people report is rather slow. With the 2GB transcend, I get ~12MB/s reading and ~6.5MB/s writing speed. Original disk is ~11MB/s reading and ~10MB/s writing. |
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| 12:11:54 | webguest34 | hello!could you give me a permission to write a wiki page? |
| 12:12:07 | petur | wikiname? |
| 12:12:48 | webguest34 | John Mills |
| 12:14:02 | petur | done |
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| 12:15:43 | webguest34 | <petur> how should i add information to it? |
| 12:20:20 | cool_walking_ | webguest34: to what? |
| 12:21:30 | webguest34 | to the wiki page |
| 12:21:55 | cool_walking_ | Click "edit" down the bottom of the page. |
| 12:22:24 | webguest34 | i have ome information about the cpu http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SamsungSA58 and some fotos inside http://player.ru/talk/showthread.php?t=26017&page=4 |
| 12:23:51 | cool_walking_ | There probably should be a wiki page documenting wiki syntax, but I can't seem to find it, if it exists. |
| 12:24:51 | pixelma | there is a link to it at the bottom, once you enter "edit" mode IIRC |
| 12:27:09 | cool_walking_ | Yes, indeed. |
| 12:27:15 | webguest34 | oh no i cant find it.......where should i click could you tell me step by step? |
| 12:27:24 | cool_walking_ | I'd think it should also be in the Documentation Index - that's where I was looking. |
| 12:28:08 | cool_walking_ | Can't find which? The "edit" link or the syntax link? |
| 12:28:41 | cool_walking_ | In edit mode, click "More formatting help for the syntax page. |
| 12:28:59 | cool_walking_ | "More formatting help" |
| 12:31:20 | webguest34 | where should i enter the edit mode?on the bottom of what page? |
| 12:31:39 | cool_walking_ | On the page you want to edit. |
| 12:32:05 | cool_walking_ | If you want to create a new one, enter the name in the search box up the top. |
| 12:32:30 | cool_walking_ | It'll say "can't find this page, do you want to create it" or something. |
| 12:38:07 | webguest34 | i cant find everthing. when i am at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/JohnMills where should i go and what should i click? |
| 12:38:56 | LinusN | webguest34: you should probably put that information to a separate page |
| 12:39:42 | LinusN | what player are you reverse engineering? |
| 12:40:02 | webguest34 | what separate page?how should i do this? meizu m6 miniplayer |
| 12:40:07 | LinusN | hang on |
| 12:40:51 | LinusN | you see the field called "Go" in the upper right corner? |
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| 12:41:45 | webguest34 | yes |
| 12:41:53 | LinusN | in there, type MeizuM6Port |
| 12:42:10 | LinusN | (the name of the new page you want to create) |
| 12:42:13 | webguest34 | i cliked |
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| 12:42:35 | SSnake | good morning |
| 12:42:36 | LinusN | it will now say that the page doesn't exist |
| 12:43:03 | webguest34 | here it is i think http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/edit/Main/?topic=MeizuM6Port&onlywikiname=on&onlynewtopic=on |
| 12:43:35 | LinusN | good, you can now save it |
| 12:44:12 | LinusN | now you can go to the JohnMills page again and edit it |
| 12:45:03 | LinusN | mark and cut the text you want to move into the clipboard (ctrl-x) |
| 12:45:45 | LinusN | save the JohnMills topic and edit the MeizuM6Port topic again, and paste the text there (ctrl-v) |
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| 12:47:38 | webguest34 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MeizuM6Port i modifed it but how should i add images? |
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| 12:47:52 | LinusN | you attach them |
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| 12:49:26 | webguest34 | thanks i ll try |
| 12:49:46 | LinusN | have fun |
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| 12:55:09 | pianoplayer88key | Hi all. I'm thinking about getting a DAP. Does it take a while to port rockbox to various platforms (e.g. Archos, iPod, iRiver, Creative, etc)? I noticed that none of the players it supports are currently manufactured. |
| 12:55:41 | pianoplayer88key | (and the few players I'm thinking of getting don't support RB, & the site says nothing about supporting them (or implies it doesn't). |
| 12:55:43 | LinusN | pianoplayer88key: yes it often takes a while |
| 12:55:45 | GodEater | pianoplayer88key: it generally takes about a year... |
| 12:56:01 | pianoplayer88key | Ok so that's why the ipod touch / ipod classic aren't supported yet. |
| 12:56:04 | GodEater | pianoplayer88key: and that's if everything goes really well |
| 12:56:18 | GodEater | pianoplayer88key: no-one is working on a port to those as far as we know |
| 12:56:18 | LinusN | pianoplayer88key: don't hold your breath for the newest ipod models |
| 12:56:26 | cool_walking_ | The iPod Classic/Touch have additional roadblocks. |
| 12:56:30 | pianoplayer88key | (not that I was thinking of getting one of those anyway... in fact if it weren't for RB I wouldn't even consider getting an ipod of any generation) |
| 12:57:10 | pianoplayer88key | btw the players I'm eyeing (getting for myself, not that RB is being or will be ported) are the Archos 504 or the Vosonic VP8360 (also known as Wolverine ESP) |
| 12:57:39 | pianoplayer88key | does it help at all (for RB ports) if the player has open-source software/firmware? or does it not matter? |
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| 12:58:56 | LinusN | it may help |
| 12:59:09 | pianoplayer88key | btw I'm looking on the table of supported products (the buyer's guide) and unfortunately none of them are currently in production, which would limit/eliminate the chances of me being able to sample one in a store to check out its interface. |
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| 12:59:37 | LinusN | why would you check out the interface if you intend to run rockbox? |
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| 13:00:06 | cool_walking_ | You can pretty much imagine what the physical buttons are going to be like to use. |
| 13:00:25 | pianoplayer88key | heh lol |
| 13:00:50 | pianoplayer88key | and I was just thinking one of the ways I'd want to test it would make the store manager very upset. (basically, see if it's built like a tank) |
| 13:01:24 | LinusN | :-) |
| 13:01:28 | cool_walking_ | I don't think he'd be upset, he'd have just made a sale when you break it. |
| 13:01:46 | pianoplayer88key | one of the players I'm looking at getting is the Archos 504, and it has some open-source components. http://tinyurl.com/yuq2yc (Is that one more difficult for some other reason, or is no one just doing it?) |
| 13:01:50 | pianoplayer88key | uh huh. |
| 13:02:34 | LinusN | rockbox on the 504 would seem quite boring |
| 13:02:44 | pianoplayer88key | another reason is because it has a user-replaceable hard drive (so long as you don't use too new of an Archos firmware... I would think RB would help fix this :P) |
| 13:02:48 | pianoplayer88key | oh so that's why |
| 13:02:51 | LinusN | since rockbox is an audio player firmware |
| 13:03:22 | SSnake | pianoplayer you could just look for an old iriver h300 series on ebay to record your performances :> |
| 13:03:44 | pianoplayer88key | and one of the first players I had (on which I'd want to try RB - IRiver ifp-899) looks like it'll probably never get done in time for me to try it, seeing as it's already dying. |
| 13:04:06 | SSnake | i really reccommend it (apart from the internal disk noise) |
| 13:04:13 | pianoplayer88key | ? snake? (btw for recording I'll be getting a Zoom H2 (or maybe H4), so recording, while it'll be nice, would be an afterthought) |
| 13:05:03 | SSnake | hoestly the first reason i installed rockbox is recording my piano performance in CD quality |
| 13:05:49 | SSnake | and if u want some audio recorder capable of wave recording you have to spend more than 300 bucks |
| 13:06:52 | pianoplayer88key | so which RB'able players would you say are good ones, with a user-replaceable hard drive and built tough? ipod 5th gen (except it uses a 1.8" HDD instead of a 2.5" or 3.5" like I would prefer)? Cowon? iriver? |
| 13:06:58 | SSnake | i can't understand wht commercial voice recorder are not capable of not recording wavs |
| 13:07:08 | pianoplayer88key | btw I've seen H2s and H4s under $300. |
| 13:07:19 | pianoplayer88key | and they can record WAV onto SD cards. |
| 13:07:45 | pianoplayer88key | i just haven't bought one yet. :P |
| 13:08:09 | SSnake | mmmm has it linein? |
| 13:08:27 | pianoplayer88key | has good built-in mics, and the H4 has XLR ports |
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| 13:09:03 | pianoplayer88key | (note: good from what I've heard other ppl say, haven't tried it myself, but I'm sure it'll beat my iriver ifp-899 + pogo (the company - pogo products / pogo electronics) ext mic combo |
| 13:09:08 | BigBambi | Chaps - stay on topic please |
| 13:09:37 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: All rockbox targets that are hard dish use 1.8" drives except the old Archos units |
| 13:09:45 | BigBambi | s/dish/disk |
| 13:09:45 | pianoplayer88key | but i don't know if RBuld be played on it. |
| 13:10:25 | pianoplayer88key | lol that didn't make sense and I don't remember what I was typing.. somehow my window changed focus :P |
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| 13:13:12 | pianoplayer88key | hmm... so I guess there isn't yet a RB'able player that does what I want (and I mean the hardware). ipod might come close, though, if it weren't that the HDD might not be user-replaceable without breaking the unit, and I can't put a 750GB HD in it. :( |
| 13:13:41 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: You cqn replace the hard drives fine |
| 13:14:12 | BigBambi | But certainly the capacity isn't as big as desktop (or even 2.5" SATA) and you have to make sure you get the right type |
| 13:14:38 | SSnake | ah i just read the discussion about the prototype |
| 13:15:30 | SSnake | a sata/ide connection seems useless to me |
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| 13:15:55 | BigBambi | SSnake: For what? |
| 13:16:08 | pianoplayer88key | what protype? btw I have yet to see a portable DAP in which I could put one of these. http://tinyurl.com/3dw5u8 :( |
| 13:16:22 | SSnake | in the forum some people are talking about building an official rocbox DAP |
| 13:16:44 | SSnake | but i think we can save space and put only a SD slot |
| 13:16:50 | pianoplayer88key | I might like to put a lot of losslessly compressed mid (720x480) to high-def (1080p) (or uncompressed) video on a player. |
| 13:16:55 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88: That wouldn't be very portable would it |
| 13:17:00 | pianoplayer88key | no. |
| 13:17:11 | BigBambi | SSnake: That depends what you want |
| 13:17:16 | pianoplayer88key | but I can fit my HDD enclosure in my pants pocket, with the 3.5" HD in it. |
| 13:17:29 | BigBambi | SSnale: For me SD isn't high enough capacity |
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| 13:17:37 | SSnake | the only reason to put an hard disk is due to the ratio price/size |
| 13:17:41 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: And the power supply? |
| 13:17:50 | pianoplayer88key | umm.. no lol :P |
| 13:17:58 | BigBambi | SSnake: So you can get 160 GB flash can you? |
| 13:18:23 | pianoplayer88key | although my 750GB SATA and the power supply for it could fit, probably. (I use a USB to eSATA adapter with its own power supply brick. |
| 13:18:51 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: And the batteries you would need to power a 3.5" hard drive? Let's be sensible. |
| 13:18:58 | pianoplayer88key | SD's not high enough capacity for me either, especially considering hte price per GB |
| 13:19:10 | SSnake | of course not now, but flash memory doesn't make noise (i mean when you record with disk spin), drain less power and has faster accesses |
| 13:19:15 | BigBambi | So? |
| 13:19:19 | pianoplayer88key | ok maybe 2 2.5" HDDs set up as Raid 0 (is that striped?) |
| 13:19:25 | BigBambi | For me, I want to carry more music |
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| 13:19:54 | pianoplayer88key | or a portable DVD/Blu-Ray player that has a CD player form factor... |
| 13:19:55 | BigBambi | SSnake: It is all what is important for you - you cannot unilaterally decide |
| 13:19:56 | SSnake | and last but not least : space |
| 13:20:07 | BigBambi | Again, for you |
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| 13:20:18 | SSnake | of course Bigbambi i can't and i don' |
| 13:20:48 | BigBambi | You should at least be able to recognise then that a hard drive is not useless |
| 13:20:54 | pianoplayer88key | for me... (and I'm sure it doesn't exist yet)... I'd want something that's built like a tank, built to last, and can hold tens of thousands of uncompressed full-length high-def movies. :P |
| 13:20:57 | BigBambi | It just isn't something you personally would want |
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| 13:21:38 | SSnake | well yes i agree, i could have a better choice of words |
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| 13:22:03 | Monga | Hey |
| 13:22:08 | pianoplayer88key | ok snake where's this forum thread you're talking about? I'd like to take a look at it. |
| 13:22:33 | BigBambi | New Ports forum |
| 13:22:39 | BigBambi | And there are wiki pages too |
| 13:22:41 | SSnake | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15173.0 |
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| 13:22:51 | SSnake | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayerV1 |
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| 13:24:02 | Monga | Is progress still being made on the Gigabeat S? |
| 13:24:06 | BigBambi | Yes |
| 13:24:12 | Monga | Alright. |
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| 13:24:35 | BigBambi | With some trickery we can now boot rockbox, browse the menus, use plugins |
| 13:24:50 | Monga | Wow, nice. |
| 13:25:06 | aliask | And I'm currently using mine with a non-hanging SPI driver :) |
| 13:25:19 | BigBambi | No music playback, power stuff, USB (which makes installing it or anything else a ball ache), etc. |
| 13:25:40 | Monga | How did you install without USB? |
| 13:25:42 | BigBambi | But jhMikeS, Nico_P, aliask and all are making sterling progress |
| 13:26:06 | BigBambi | Monga: Sorry, without rockbox USB and therefore UMS mode |
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| 13:26:14 | BigBambi | MTP is horrible for that |
| 13:26:17 | Monga | Oh, k. |
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| 13:26:45 | Monga | Should kick the Ipod ass when it's all ready. |
| 13:26:56 | pianoplayer88key | for the RockBox player that would have HDD support, would the HD be user-replaceable? (I assume it'd be a 1.8" or 2.5" HDD) |
| 13:26:59 | BigBambi | IMO the other targets already do that |
| 13:27:18 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: The hard drive is user replaceable in our current targets |
| 13:28:20 | pianoplayer88key | cool :D |
| 13:28:29 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: And the 'rockbox player' is just a few people on the forums designing mainly |
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| 13:28:50 | pianoplayer88key | **** somehow I managed to disconnect myself in the middle of typing something :( |
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| 13:28:56 | Monga | Lol. |
| 13:29:27 | pianoplayer88key | now where was I.... |
| 13:29:28 | pianoplayer88key | lol |
| 13:29:55 | Monga | Starting to regret not buying the S60.. |
| 13:30:08 | Monga | Didn't really expect to be putting movies on it lol. |
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| 13:30:30 | BigBambi | Monga: The S60 OF (horrible as it is) plays films... |
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| 13:31:00 | Monga | Yeah, but I thought i'd be only using it for music when first buying.. |
| 13:31:08 | pianoplayer88key | so when should we expect working Rockbox Player V1's? should I go ahead and buy something else to tide me over? |
| 13:31:26 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> pianoplayer88key: And the 'rockbox player' is just a few people on the forums designing mainly |
| 13:31:36 | BigBambi | It isn't 'official' per se |
| 13:31:49 | Monga | Yeah.. Was considering buying my friends Gigabeat F? I think.. |
| 13:31:53 | pianoplayer88key | or will it be something more like I buy the parts and built it myself (for example, I won't go to an Apple store / Fry's / etc, and buy one :P) |
| 13:32:07 | BigBambi | And it isn't like we are going to be selling them like a compant |
| 13:32:20 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: Exactly |
| 13:32:49 | pianoplayer88key | heh :P and what's the chance of it having a multi-touch interface like the ipod touch / iphone? |
| 13:32:53 | BigBambi | Monga, yeah, the F is nice too (but I prefer the S physically) |
| 13:33:10 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: Everything is there in that thread |
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| 13:33:24 | Monga | What's Frys? |
| 13:33:56 | Monga | Yeah, the S is hot. |
| 13:34:17 | Monga | Most annoying part about owning a non-ipod is everyone going "What type of Ipod is that" |
| 13:34:37 | pianoplayer88key | an electronics store chain online, and with several retail locations in various cities. I have one about 20 minutes from me. |
| 13:34:48 | Monga | Ah. |
| 13:34:55 | Monga | Are you Australian? |
| 13:35:00 | pianoplayer88key | USA |
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| 13:35:13 | Monga | We're still waiting on the Iphone.. :P |
| 13:35:17 | pianoplayer88key | the stores are huge - like probably 10 to 25 thousand square feet or so. |
| 13:35:28 | BigBambi | On topic please |
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| 13:35:37 | pianoplayer88key | lol sorry |
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| 13:36:35 | pianoplayer88key | anyway that RB player looks quite interesting. Seeing as I'm wanting to get a functioning player (whoever's firmware it uses) in the next week from a local store (or online), I think I'll have to just bookmark that forum thread and keep an eye on it. :P |
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| 13:37:51 | pianoplayer88key | hey is there any way to port rockbox to a portable DVD player? or is it not possible? (I was looking at getting one, but the few models I considered, that look like portable CD players but with a built-in color screen, won't play MP3 files off DVD-Rs.) |
| 13:38:16 | Monga | I don't think so. |
| 13:38:23 | pianoplayer88key | figured. :( |
| 13:38:56 | pianoplayer88key | I can understand not porting it to the ipod shuffle though.. unless... i wonder what you could do with rockbox on a shuffle... :P |
| 13:39:13 | Monga | Lol... Play different song formats? |
| 13:39:17 | BigBambi | Lots |
| 13:39:28 | Monga | Are shuffles Drag/drop or Itunes orientated? |
| 13:39:32 | BigBambi | Rockbox has a voice interface, so the lack of the screen isn't a massive hurdle |
| 13:39:50 | aliask | Good luck porting |
| 13:40:02 | Monga | "Rockbox says: You are playing doom now, turn left at next wall." |
| 13:40:18 | BigBambi | The problem with the shuffles are the first gen has a CPU with no free compiler, and the later ones are all encrypted with new unknown hardware (like the 2nd/3rd gen Nanos, Classic) |
| 13:40:28 | LinusN | aliask: there? |
| 13:40:35 | aliask | LinusN: Yep |
| 13:40:48 | pianoplayer88key | "You are being shot from the rear. Do you want to turn around and shoot him?" (press play for yes) "Would you like to shoot him with the chaingun, the BFG, the rocket launcher, or your bare hands?" |
| 13:40:53 | LinusN | i think you should read up on the CONTRIBUTING guidlines |
| 13:41:07 | BigBambi | pianoplayer88key: For the last time, on topic please |
| 13:41:16 | LinusN | aliask: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/drivers/serial.c?revision=14812&view=markup |
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| 13:41:29 | Monga | Lol |
| 13:41:33 | aliask | LinusN: I'm familiar with them, what am I missing in particular? |
| 13:41:44 | LinusN | mixed case identifiers |
| 13:41:56 | LinusN | Tx_Writec |
| 13:42:05 | LinusN | EUartUCR4_TCEN |
| 13:42:25 | aliask | In which file? I have a feeling these might have been ptw419's work |
| 13:42:36 | LinusN | firmware/drivers/serial.c |
| 13:43:08 | aliask | Yep, that was him. I went through a lot of his code and cleaned it up but clearly I missed some. |
| 13:43:13 | LinusN | i see |
| 13:43:35 | aliask | I think that serial.c is only used for debug output if you have a hardware hack to output RS232 |
| 13:44:11 | LinusN | it is also used for remote controls |
| 13:44:22 | LinusN | on the archos and soon the ipod |
| 13:44:38 | aliask | Ah, sorry, i was referring to the gigabeat section of it. |
| 13:44:42 | LinusN | ah |
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| 13:45:34 | aliask | Should I remove that code, or just clean it up? |
| 13:45:50 | LinusN | don't remove it, just clean it |
| 13:46:03 | * | aliask adds that to his todo list |
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| 13:53:44 | amiconn | LinusN: What was the problem with PP502x serial? |
| 13:54:14 | LinusN | i haven't yet found out how to enable the interrupt |
| 13:54:29 | LinusN | but polling works |
| 13:54:38 | Nico_P | aliask: I hear you have a working SPI driver :) |
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| 13:56:59 | aliask | Nico_P: Well, as far as I remembered it always worked, but I'm 100% sure it's stable for reading, and the backlight goes on and off so I assume writing works too |
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| 13:57:10 | aliask | It's not interrupt based though |
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| 14:01:57 | Nico_P | aliask: what about the on/off button? |
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| 14:03:55 | aliask | Nico_P: Kind of, working on getting it working nicely. When the button is pressed you can see the interrupt register change (Interrupt status1 & (1<<3)) |
| 14:04:21 | aliask | But it stays set (I guess we head into an ISR which clears the bit once it ack's it) |
| 14:09:49 | Monga | Cyas. |
| 14:09:50 | Monga | Going to bed. |
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| 14:19:48 | amiconn | LinusN: I mean the problem that prevented it from working at all... |
| 14:20:07 | LinusN | looks like there wasn't any problem at all |
| 14:20:26 | LinusN | as soon as i changed it to polling mode it just worked |
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| 14:25:03 | amiconn | The interrupt masks for ser0 and ser1 are already defined in pp5020.h. So in order to enable interrupts, you would need to (1) add it to the dispatcher in system-pp502x.c, (2) enable the interrupt in the interrupt controller and perhaps (3) enable interrupt mode in the serial controller somewhere |
| 14:25:33 | amiconn | Oh, and of course write the isr function that will be called by the dispatcher |
| 14:26:05 | aliask | Hrm, when building a clean SVN I'm getting all these linker errors - http://pastebin.ca/909720 |
| 14:26:37 | aliask | I seem to remember something about the cpu type definition in tools/configure, but that hasn't changed for the gigabeat recently |
| 14:26:51 | amiconn | Building for the beast? |
| 14:26:56 | aliask | Yep |
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| 14:27:23 | amiconn | Did you rebuild your environment? The arm crosscompiler needs the multilib patch |
| 14:28:43 | aliask | I'll rebuild just to be sure. Can I use rockboxdev.sh? |
| 14:28:47 | GodEater | yep |
| 14:28:50 | GodEater | that'll do it |
| 14:28:51 | LinusN | amiconn: i have done all that |
| 14:29:24 | LinusN | but the serial controller refuses to trigger an interrupt... |
| 14:29:56 | LinusN | i'll have to dig deeper |
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| 14:42:33 | low_light | LinusN: there's some interrupt registers on the pp5020 that aren't documented that seem to be related to the serial controller - 0x60004140, 0x60004144, 0x60004148, 0x6000414c |
| 14:43:00 | LinusN | interesting |
| 14:43:01 | low_light | for example, here's a bit from the mrobe100 interrupt handler: http://rafb.net/p/0zzMA154.html |
| 14:43:23 | LinusN | thanks |
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| 14:49:11 | LinusN | low_light: looks like they might be yet another set of interrupt control registers |
| 14:51:08 | low_light | LinusN: the OF seems to set 0x60004144 & 0x600041c to zero initially, then later sets 0x600041c here: http://rafb.net/p/OQ9Wfn65.html |
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| 15:02:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Morning, everyone! |
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| 15:09:14 | aurium | hi all! |
| 15:11:21 | aurium | somebody know if exists a factory buiding players with Rockbox? |
| 15:11:54 | GodEater | aurium: no such thing exists as far as we know |
| 15:11:54 | petur | none |
| 15:12:36 | aurium | and you listen about some factory interested on this? |
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| 15:13:03 | petur | afaik, AMS was interested |
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| 15:13:17 | GodEater | you know of a factory that is interested aurium ? |
| 15:13:33 | aurium | no... |
| 15:13:45 | petur | and then there was that guy in the forum... |
| 15:13:55 | aurium | if i have one i'll be interested |
| 15:13:58 | aurium | :-) |
| 15:14:55 | aurium | petur, AMS -> http://www.ams.org ??? |
| 15:15:09 | GodEater | Austrian Micro Systems isn't it ? |
| 15:15:11 | petur | hahaha no |
| 15:15:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | aurium: Wrong AMS. |
| 15:15:19 | aurium | hehehe |
| 15:15:25 | petur | austrian microsystems |
| 15:15:29 | GodEater | http://www.austriamicrosystems.com/ |
| 15:15:50 | aurium | Thanks! |
| 15:15:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah yes, that's the one. |
| 15:16:13 | petur | but that would only have been for their demo stuff, not a real player I think |
| 15:16:22 | aurium | Folks, you know the http://www.balloonboard.org ? |
| 15:17:11 | aurium | On the web we find some OpenHardware projects |
| 15:17:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | XScale-based, eh? |
| 15:17:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 looks |
| 15:17:36 | aurium | BalloonBoard is the more interesting to me. |
| 15:17:57 | petur | hmmm xilinx spartan.... a bit too much for a DAP I think |
| 15:18:30 | aurium | Bot i don't understand hardware very well and don have money to buy pieces and try. |
| 15:19:02 | aurium | I think you understand Hardware **very well**! |
| 15:19:52 | aurium | are you thinking on a OpenMP4Player ? |
| 15:20:12 | GodEater | aurium: there's a user in forums trying to start one |
| 15:20:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | aurium: We have a few projects to build open hardware for Rockbox. |
| 15:20:29 | aurium | Beaultiful! |
| 15:20:34 | aurium | :-) |
| 15:20:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | aurium: Read all about it: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6751.0 |
| 15:21:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | This, too: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15173.0 |
| 15:21:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | There are links to info all over those threads. |
| 15:22:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Read! Read and soak it all in! Knowledge, that is key! :) |
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| 15:25:52 | crazy_bus | is rockbox still only able to emulate 48k spectrum files. And if so how do I know if which spectrum games will work and which won't |
| 15:26:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | crazy_bus: Most games will tell you if they work on a 48K Spectrum or not. |
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| 15:27:51 | crazy_bus | so I have to load one to find out? |
| 15:28:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | crazy_bus: Do you know the World of Spectrum site? http://www.worldofspectrum.org/ |
| 15:28:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | They have a database of games with listing of which are 48K and which are 128K, and which work on both. |
| 15:29:06 | crazy_bus | no, I'm checking it now. Thanks |
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| 15:35:04 | crazy_bus | LambdaCalculus37: I found it and it should work. (Couldn't find it at first until I searched for its spanish name :) ) |
| 15:36:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay. Bookmark the page; it'll come in handy when you want to check any games for 48K compatibility in ZXbox. |
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| 15:37:12 | crazy_bus | thanks again, I only just found out about this feature because the manual had no reference to it. I'll try and write one for it soon |
| 15:38:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | crazy_bus: Let me check the manual again. |
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| 15:39:47 | pixelma | I think it's not in the manual but in the wiki |
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| 15:39:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | You're right; there isn't even a section for ZXbox in the manual. |
| 15:40:15 | * | petur recently noticed the wav viewer is also missing... |
| 15:40:39 | * | petur waits for the 'then write it' comment |
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| 15:40:48 | n1s | the write it :P |
| 15:40:51 | n1s | n |
| 15:41:07 | pixelma | petur: you've implemeted it so your turn to write something about it :P |
| 15:41:11 | crazy_bus | the game loaded but none of the keys work. up/down/left/right select etc don't select anything |
| 15:41:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | crazy_bus: Use these instructions for now: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginZXBox |
| 15:42:28 | crazy_bus | LambdaCalculus37: that's what I'm trying to use. Only sansa players aren't listed their and pressing random buttons doesn't do anything |
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| 15:43:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | crazy_bus: e200 or c200? |
| 15:43:21 | crazy_bus | e200 |
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| 15:44:05 | * | LambdaCalculus37 has only used ZXbox on his iPod video |
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| 15:45:04 | crazy_bus | the number 4 option is flashing next to the word keyboard, but typing 4 on the virtual keyboard or pressing buttons won't start a game (this game) |
| 15:45:35 | crazy_bus | http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0003240 |
| 15:46:54 | pixelma | crazy_bus: it's sometimes a bit tricky but the only way I found was playing with the "map keys to kempston", "predefined" and various "custom keymap" settings, all in the menu. Sometimes it needs an input of some letter through the vkeyboard and sometimes I couldn't figure it out too (from the maybe 10 I tried) |
| 15:48:20 | pixelma | once you figured it out and set it up as you like it, you should save a snapshot which you can load directly next time |
| 15:49:36 | crazy_bus | is the screen warped to fit onto a e200 screen. I remember words being blocky, but not as much as this |
| 15:49:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | I agree with pixelma. I've used "map keys to Kempston" and have been able to play that way. |
| 15:54:35 | crazy_bus | the vkeyboard only has letters on the top left of the screen. Where are the rest of the letters including the arrow keys? |
| 15:57:56 | pixelma | IIRC the "arrow keys" were on some other keys on the spectrum keyboard, usable through a different mode |
| 15:58:25 | pixelma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ZXSpectrum48k.jpg |
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| 16:03:03 | crazy_bus | thanks pixelma. I found a ingame keyboard changer so I'm using that. Is there anyway to get bars on the screen. As the scaling has made the screen look awful |
| 16:05:05 | pixelma | as far as I know, it only scales full-screen... |
| 16:05:53 | amiconn | On displays which are larger than the original spectrum screen, the border is visible (e.g. ipod video) |
| 16:08:36 | crazy_bus | I've set the keymap correctly but it's not working. 2w90z. On top of that entering the correct key in the vkeyboard only makes them move 30% of the time. |
| 16:10:06 | crazy_bus | selecting map keys to kempston: no seems to have fixed the problem |
| 16:10:50 | crazy_bus | amiconn: what about screens which are taller than they are wide like the e200. Is there anyway to get it to have bars instead of dropping vertical lines? |
| 16:13:11 | amiconn | e200 has lower resolution that spectrum, even rotated |
| 16:17:52 | crazy_bus | thanks everyone for all your help. I must sleep so I have to go |
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| 16:36:49 | aurium | Hi all, i'm seen thi page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison |
| 16:37:34 | aurium | The color and the text (Yes, No) are wrong in some places. |
| 16:37:54 | aurium | what is wrong? the color or the text? |
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| 16:39:51 | aurium | I like TWiki. We use on our free technology cooperative: http://www.colivre.coop.br/TWiki |
| 16:39:55 | BigBambi | aurium: An example? The colour isn't another way of saying yes or no, it indicates good or bad. |
| 16:40:41 | aurium | now i understand! |
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| 16:41:26 | BigBambi | If all the column were coloured green, it would be good :) |
| 16:41:29 | aurium | I try to register myself on the Rockbox TWiki, but i did not recive the confirm e-mail. |
| 16:41:50 | * | BigBambi notes the column with the most green :) |
| 16:42:15 | aurium | yeah... green is good! :-) |
| 16:42:45 | aurium | BigBambi, your TWiki instalation is not sending confirmatin e-mail |
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| 16:43:25 | BigBambi | 1) It isn't my twiki installation 2) Lots of people have got the confirmation e-mail as they have managed to sign up |
| 16:43:33 | aurium | I'm a "wikiaholic". I can help to organize and beautify the Rockbox TWiki. :-) |
| 16:44:23 | BigBambi | So either there is very new issue with the confirmation e-mails, or check your spam filters |
| 16:44:50 | BigBambi | The wiki could certainly do with some re-organisation |
| 16:46:11 | BigBambi | I believe that wiki admin is the domain of our illustrious Swedes :) |
| 16:47:10 | BigBambi | So if you are sure you haven't got the e-mail and it isn't just in a spam mailbox, or taking a little time to get through the system (as e-mails can be delayed), check with LinusN, Bagder or Zagor I think. |
| 16:48:29 | aurium | BigBambi, yes! That is on my spam box! (ow shit!) And, I'm a colaborator on TWiki.org... :-) |
| 16:48:40 | BigBambi | Cool |
| 16:48:57 | BigBambi | You now need someone to add you to the write access list (such as me) |
| 16:49:04 | BigBambi | What is your wiki name? |
| 16:49:29 | aurium | AurelioAHeckert |
| 16:49:39 | aurium | Thanks! |
| 16:49:59 | BigBambi | OK, done |
| 16:50:03 | BigBambi | Edit away |
| 16:50:33 | aurium | Who is the server admin? Will be really really cool if him install the new TWiki. |
| 16:50:47 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> I believe that wiki admin is the domain of our illustrious Swedes :) |
| 16:50:56 | aurium | And is very more easy to install the new. |
| 16:51:02 | scorche|w | Zagor is the main one, but he isnt around at the moment |
| 16:51:07 | BigBambi | Which means LinusN, Bagder and Zagor |
| 16:52:06 | aurium | Ok... I will propose it on the e-mail list. :-) |
| 16:52:26 | petur | aurium: you're not the first one to come around and suggest another wiki server, and most probably the answer will again be no. |
| 16:53:05 | aurium | No petur! :-) |
| 16:53:12 | scorche|w | well, technically he isnt suggesting another one...more like a newer version it seems |
| 16:53:20 | petur | There are no real issues with what we have and people like te do some real work iso changing things that work |
| 16:53:26 | aurium | I'm proposing the upgrade. And i can do it. :-) |
| 16:53:34 | petur | ah... |
| 16:53:37 | * | petur shuts up |
| 16:53:51 | BigBambi | aurium: not without being the admin you can't |
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| 16:54:06 | BigBambi | And me thinks that is mighty unlikely :) |
| 16:54:53 | aurium | I understand... :-) If they want, i can help. |
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| 17:17:39 | GodEater | 150 seconds is our benchmark for build servers ? |
| 17:17:40 | GodEater | wow |
| 17:17:46 | GodEater | that's really slow! |
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| 17:31:06 | desowin | does anyone else experience rockbox logo hangs on e200? |
| 17:32:37 | desowin | it seems to hang always if I keep power button pressed for a longer while |
| 17:33:11 | desowin | (initial power button press done when player is shuted down) |
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| 17:35:10 | desowin | it triggers about 50% of tries |
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| 17:38:37 | low_light | amiconn: do you know understand ADC_CLOCK_SRC for pp5020? On mrobe 100, OF sets it to 4, BL uses 2, and in Rockbox we use 3. |
| 17:40:18 | aurium | BigBambi, i send my help proposal to the TWiki admin guys. |
| 17:40:27 | aurium | Thanks by the help! :-) |
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| 17:43:29 | barrywardell | ah, k |
| 17:43:37 | barrywardell | oops, sorry. wrong window! |
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| 17:48:20 | Bagder | GodEater: it is slow, but it's something to at least mention |
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| 17:48:52 | GodEater | dno't most servers do it in under 40 ? |
| 17:49:20 | Bagder | check the sim builds for color targets |
| 17:49:49 | Bagder | we see >200 at times |
| 17:51:02 | GodEater | so we do |
| 17:51:15 | * | GodEater really needs to resurrect his PC at home and pitch in again |
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| 18:06:38 | pixelma | pondlife: just noticed something about the beep instead of the keyclick on my c200 - it's not beeping when voice menus is enabled but it will only play the click if it's finished talking, so some clicks are skipped... without voice it beeps occasionally, depending on the speed I scroll through the list more or less often |
| 18:07:04 | pondlife | Yep, voice and fades do kill it |
| 18:07:15 | pondlife | Sorry I disappeared earlier btw ;) |
| 18:08:00 | JdGordon | also, i had to disable it because the beeeps were hapening very late, and i got the occasional squeeeel again |
| 18:08:26 | pondlife | JdGordon: Which target? PP? |
| 18:09:55 | * | pondlife thinks he should go and buy a Sansa. |
| 18:10:01 | pondlife | If I can find a V1, of course |
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| 18:12:05 | pixelma | so far it only beeps in the menus for me not in the file browser |
| 18:12:45 | pondlife | It's just poor timing in the PortalPlayer pcmbuf |
| 18:13:02 | pondlife | Or, rather, inconsistent timing |
| 18:17:48 | JdGordon | yes sansa |
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| 18:59:33 | BigBambi | Well, battery life under rockbox on my E260 is considerably longer than the OF |
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| 19:00:07 | amiconn | GodEater: Build times on build servers vary a lot, due to ccache and varying build distribution |
| 19:00:35 | BigBambi | Rockbox got 16:28:47 and OF 14:08:41 |
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| 19:01:18 | amiconn | If a build server gets a build scheduled where not much changed _since it got this very build scheduled last time_, it will be fast. But if ccache hasn't much reusable stuff left, it will be slow |
| 19:01:20 | BigBambi | Both with settings reset, rb with Cabbie v2 WPS, both with the same album on repeat, and with hold on therefore screen off |
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| 19:02:24 | amiconn | Btw, that's another reason to implement speculative parallel builds |
| 19:02:39 | BigBambi | And both were measured by plugging the headphone out into the H140 and recording it :) |
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| 19:07:19 | amiconn | Hi Mr. USB ;) |
| 19:08:21 | * | gevaerts had an entire day at work without a working internet connection |
| 19:08:51 | gevaerts | Hi amiconn |
| 19:09:24 | * | BigBambi is dead pleased with that |
| 19:09:53 | BigBambi | (not gevaerts not having t'interweb, but with Rockbox having better battery life than the Sansa OF) |
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| 19:22:00 | jhMikeS | gevearts: I see from the logs you were asking about something cache related? |
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| 19:26:23 | EliT | Hello, I have a question about bookmarking in Rockbox. I have a sansa e200 series that I recently installed rockbox on. I seem to be unable to create a bookmark or retrieve a bookmark that was previously created. |
| 19:27:30 | EliT | I've gone into settings and turned all the bookmarking options on. Yet when I'm playing a song and try to add a bookmark by holding the middle button and then bookmarking, nothing seems to happen. |
| 19:27:47 | EliT | Does anyone have any ideas of what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 19:29:08 | dandin1 | Did you try adding a bookmark through the menu? I didn't even know rockbox had the OF-like feature of holding the big button |
| 19:29:55 | dandin1 | actually, never mind "OF-like", that was for playlists. |
| 19:30:22 | dandin1 | (brb) |
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| 19:32:19 | EliT | Where would I go to add a bookmark through the menu, starting from the main menu? |
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| 19:36:49 | EliT | a |
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| 19:37:44 | EliT | Actually, I believe I just made a discovery. Bookmarks will never be created if you get to your music through the "Database" menu option −− they will only be created if you get to your music through the "Files" menu option. |
| 19:38:34 | amiconn | yep |
| 19:38:46 | amiconn | Bookmarks don't work from the db |
| 19:39:07 | amiconn | That should be mentioned in the manual. Not sure whether it is... |
| 19:39:16 | EliT | That's good to know. I must have missed that in the manual. But what still doesn't appear to work is the bookmark starting the track at the right time. I want to bookmark a podcast. Then upon resuming play of that podcast, go to the point that I left off. |
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| 19:39:36 | * | amiconn constantly forgets that because he doesn't use the db |
| 19:40:32 | EliT | If I go to the main Rockbox menu, then select "Recent Bookmarks", I see the bookmark that I just created. If I click on that bookmark, it re-starts the track from the beginning. |
| 19:40:58 | EliT | Am I misinterpreting what bookmarks are? Do they not bookmark the time in the track as well as the track? |
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| 19:42:23 | amiconn | Bookmarks are supposed to store the exact position. What audio format are you using? |
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| 19:46:34 | preglow | i don't think all codecs do support seeking to the exact position |
| 19:46:41 | preglow | as in, sample-exact |
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| 19:47:43 | spetey | Hi Rockboxers! |
| 19:47:53 | spetey | I'd like permission to do a brief edit of a Wiki page ... |
| 19:47:57 | amiconn | preglow: Yeah, not sample exact, but at least +/- a few seconds |
| 19:48:22 | spetey | Specifically http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
| 19:48:28 | Domonoky | spetey: your wikiname ? |
| 19:48:36 | spetey | StevePetersen |
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| 19:48:40 | spetey | (hi) |
| 19:49:10 | spetey | I bricked my 5g iPod by writing over the MBR, and so I'd like to add a link for how to recover from such by putting the iPod into "disk mode" |
| 19:49:19 | Domonoky | spetey: promise not to spam ! .. you are now free to edit.. :-) |
| 19:49:23 | spetey | And a link to http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651 |
| 19:49:28 | spetey | Thanks! |
| 19:49:41 | spetey | Funny to be back on IRC - I haven't used it since like 1990. |
| 19:50:51 | preglow | you'll find that things haven't evolved too much since then... |
| 19:50:59 | Horscht | so, what could be the cause of FS #8601? |
| 19:51:42 | JdGordon|w | random mutations in the space-time continuum? |
| 19:51:49 | JdGordon|w | continuam? |
| 19:51:55 | Horscht | yes, but i tried deleting those, JdGordon |
| 19:52:00 | Horscht | no success |
| 19:52:14 | Horscht | also renaming them to lowerspace didn't help either |
| 19:52:19 | BigBambi | Horscht: Looks like a classic case of a banana in the disk drive to me |
| 19:52:20 | * | amiconn wonders why JdGordon un-corrects his writing |
| 19:52:34 | JdGordon|w | it didnt look right :p |
| 19:52:40 | BigBambi | It was :) |
| 19:52:51 | Horscht | BigBambi, i only use oranges to clean my drives |
| 19:52:59 | Horscht | so it can't be a banana causing it |
| 19:53:06 | BigBambi | Hmmm, I'm out of ideas then |
| 19:53:10 | JdGordon|w | Horscht: attach your config.cfg to that patch... if Slasheri's commit didnt fix it soimething is odd and really needs tracing |
| 19:53:33 | Horscht | hm... ok will do |
| 19:54:12 | Domonoky | Horscht: did you try reseting the rockbox settings ? (backup your config before) |
| 19:54:28 | Horscht | yes, i just tried it on a fresh build |
| 19:54:47 | * | JdGordon|w wonders if the wps is doing somethiung funny like reloading bmps? |
| 19:54:53 | Horscht | renaming my old folder and putting a new one in it's place (no overwriting!) |
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| 19:56:16 | spetey | Incidentally folks, the partition table for writing over the MBR in iPod 5g didn't work for me (in converting the iPod to a vfat filesystem without a windows machine). |
| 19:56:23 | spetey | I'm not sure whom to notify about that. |
| 19:56:39 | Horscht | I am using a wps with AA. As said in the FS entry, the bug appeared with rev 16019, JdGordon|w |
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| 19:57:21 | EliT | Back to bookmarking −− Sorry, I was away for a second. I am trying to play an .mp3 file (might be vbr if that matters?). I am using rockbox v r16350-080218. Again, I can't resume to a specific time in a bookmark. |
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| 19:58:45 | EliT | When I selec the bookmark, the graphical display seems to indicate that I am halfway through the song, but then the display immediately jumps to the beginning and starts playing the podcast. |
| 19:59:25 | JdGordon|w | Horscht: are all the tags/filenames latin chars? |
| 19:59:27 | amiconn | Sounds like yet another MoB-induced playback bug then :( |
| 19:59:32 | JdGordon|w | or a mix of all unicode? |
| 19:59:50 | amiconn | Nico_P? |
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| 20:00:07 | Horscht | hm.... they are "windows safe" |
| 20:00:17 | Horscht | so I assume they are latin |
| 20:00:38 | amiconn | ? |
| 20:00:42 | EliT | Sorry, I'm not sure what MoB is. |
| 20:00:46 | amiconn | Windows supports unicode |
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| 20:01:10 | EliT | (or perhaps that question wasn't directed at me) |
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| 20:01:17 | Horscht | meh. well a few contain äöü |
| 20:01:31 | #>> | "explain MoB" by amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 20:01:43 | Horscht | but in my tests i was using files/database entries that only contained a-z and numbers |
| 20:01:53 | JdGordon|w | ok, so its not a fontcavche issue |
| 20:02:03 | JdGordon|w | 16019 is a playback patch.... |
| 20:02:25 | JdGordon|w | could very well be MoB :( which means Nico_P is the man to talk to |
| 20:02:29 | roxfan | o.o can we do that without chan notices? |
| 20:02:36 | Horscht | but the issue appeared at that exact rev, JdGordon|w. |
| 20:02:45 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: yes. I was wondering if the data corruption we were seeing on USB write could be cache related (it repeated every 32 bytes). It seems to be gone from recent USB patches, so I assume some of my cached/uncached cleanups fixed it. There is still the issue with high-speed not working that might be memory related (it fails after 95 bytes+checksum), but that's speculation for now, as we really don't have a clue. |
| 20:02:59 | Horscht | 16018 didn't suffer that issue, 16019 and following do |
| 20:03:16 | JdGordon|w | Horscht: yes.. and he did that commit... playback/Mob is mostly his baby :p |
| 20:03:33 | Horscht | ah :) |
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| 20:04:36 | Horscht | i thought you were refering to EliT with the MoB thing |
| 20:04:59 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I just saw your FS note. I'll go through my code and see what I need to fix. |
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| 20:06:50 | EliT | About the bookmarking issue −− I'm new to rockbox. Should I file this as a bug in the bug tracking system or is it more likely my own issue? |
| 20:06:54 | amiconn | gevaerts: Btw, the isd300 manual (hadrware usb-ata bridge chip used in several other rockbox targets) mentions that it has an 8KB buffer |
| 20:07:24 | EliT | Also, is there a more known to be "stable" release of rockbox that I can try for a bit? |
| 20:07:33 | amiconn | And that bridge supports high speed, so somehow it must be possible to go with such a small buffer... |
| 20:08:06 | Nico_P | amiconn: I'm here |
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| 20:08:40 | toffe82 | if somebody needs a lcd for a gigabeat F : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=360023577949&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI |
| 20:09:11 | amiconn | Nico_P: Do you have an idea why bookmarks won't resume from where they are supposed to, but from the beginning instead? It used to work before MoB, and on hwcodec it still works |
| 20:09:44 | amiconn | Horscht also seems to experience a MoB induced issue... |
| 20:10:08 | Nico_P | amiconn: I think it appeared later than MoB. it might be due to one of my "recent" changes though |
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| 20:10:29 | Horscht | Nico_P had already commented on FS8601 |
| 20:10:47 | amiconn | Btw, I need to do some more tests, but resume also seems to be broken if you're near the end of the last track of a playlist |
| 20:10:54 | pixelma | wouldn't surprise me if that was related to the skip 3rd track problem - because in these folders I can't listen to a single track and resume will also only resume at current or even next track start |
| 20:11:01 | amiconn | (not only the last few seconds, it's a bit more) |
| 20:14:22 | Nico_P | pixelma: isn't the skip 3rd track related to the spinlock issues? |
| 20:15:30 | Nico_P | I haven't had much time to follow all of these issues lately... I do plan on fixing them though |
| 20:15:43 | pixelma | who knows, it appeared after the spinlock commit but not sure if it's really the cause |
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| 20:16:44 | Horscht | mine appeared way before spinlock commit :þ |
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| 20:18:28 | |sanchez| | Hey |
| 20:20:46 | |sanchez| | just wondered if anyone knew anything about the 3g nano? |
| 20:21:14 | Horscht | it plays music... |
| 20:21:34 | |sanchez| | im talking about rockbox on it |
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| 20:22:15 | Domonoky | no rockbox for 3gen nano.. |
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| 20:25:19 | bluebrother | check the New Port forums. |
| 20:25:29 | frawfraw | i don't think my ipod color / rockbox shuts down properly. every morning the battery is totally flat. |
| 20:25:56 | Nico_P | Horscht: any idea when it appeared? |
| 20:26:04 | frawfraw | to shut down I hold the "play/pause" button and the ipod shuts down |
| 20:26:16 | frawfraw | but then the battery is always dead the next day |
| 20:26:21 | JdGordon|w | bluebrother: I had another play with making the settings text generated by gcc and it might actually be usable... it will still need a bit of work ones gcc is done but that shouldnt be hard |
| 20:26:56 | Nico_P | Horscht: ah, seen the comment saying it was introduced by r16019. |
| 20:27:06 | JdGordon|w | gcc is being annoying and not evaluating some macros which sucks, but is probably fixable |
| 20:28:08 | EliT | fyi, I just tried the navigating to a bookmark and it didn't work in 2008-02-01's build, either (r16195). I'll go way back to last year and see if that helps. |
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| 20:30:54 | gevaerts | amiconn: It might be possible to do UMS with lower buffer size. Dedicated hardware can definitely do it, by starting disk i/o as data comes in or goes out. I think we might be able to do the same, but I have to do some mre studying/experimenting to be sure. |
| 20:35:24 | preglow | what, an usb device can't decide what buffer size to use? |
| 20:35:35 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: that was what you were asking about then? unwanted buffer overlapping would cause trouble no doubt. |
| 20:36:28 | bluebrother | JdGordon|w: sorry, had no time looking into that the last couple of days. |
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| 20:38:09 | Haegin | is the Creative Zen Vision:M supported by rockbox or any open firmware yet? |
| 20:38:43 | preglow | why, you're in luck |
| 20:39:00 | preglow | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/ |
| 20:39:03 | preglow | take a look there |
| 20:39:08 | Haegin | why thank you |
| 20:39:20 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: yes. Things are a lot clearer now. I still don't entirely understand what happened, because the USB packetsize was somehow involved, but this packet size might infulence DMA chunksize. I do know that the code handles caching a lot better now than a week ago though. |
| 20:39:35 | preglow | Haegin: nothing yet, but things are happening |
| 20:39:37 | scorche|w | Haegin: in other words, not yet, but it is being worked on |
| 20:39:45 | scorche|w | bah |
| 20:39:46 | Llorean | And prospects are good. |
| 20:39:58 | Haegin | ok, thanks |
| 20:39:59 | Llorean | The most significant first roadblock has been surmounted |
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| 20:40:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | And this may also add other Creative players to the mix in the future. ;) |
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| 20:41:37 | rasher | Wasn't there a "status of developing ports" page in the wiki once? |
| 20:41:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | I think so. |
| 20:41:59 | rasher | Can't seem to find it |
| 20:42:25 | rasher | Ah, TargetStatus |
| 20:42:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Wasn't all the target info combined into that page? |
| 20:43:04 | rasher | More or less |
| 20:45:00 | Haegin | thanks all of you |
| 20:45:12 | gevaerts | preglow: technically a usb device has to be able to buffer one packet. However, no general purpose controller that I know of is really designed to be used at that level (although it might be possible to do it). The issue we are having is that SCSI does not (really) allow you to choose your read/write transfer size (newer standards support it, but I doubt of operating systems do). My understanding of the controller in the portalplayer (and |
| 20:45:31 | * | gevaerts should consider typing shorter lines |
| 20:45:43 | scorche|w | naw...long ones do nicely :) |
| 20:46:02 | dionoea | It just cropped the bit after "(and" off |
| 20:46:05 | rasher | gevaerts: you got cut off at "(and" |
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| 20:46:34 | gevaerts | ... imx31) chips was that it forced us to allocate whatever SCSI wants to use, but I think I was |
| 20:46:34 | gevaerts | +mistaken, and we can probably go as low as we want (limited to 512 bytes for HS, and 64 bytes for FS, but we probably ant to be a bit |
| 20:46:35 | gevaerts | +more generous than that) |
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| 20:49:29 | preglow | indeed |
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| 20:50:11 | jhMikeS | use the audio buffer and you have a huge data queue available |
| 20:51:51 | gevaerts | I now use 128kB. going down to 8 or 16 should be doable. What's the best read or write size from a disk i/o perspective, assuming that the next read or write will be sequential ? |
| 20:53:56 | jhMikeS | multiples of sector size I think is best |
| 20:55:28 | gevaerts | If it does PIO it probably doesn't matter much. I'll make it configurable (in the source, not for the user...) |
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| 20:57:01 | jhMikeS | I'm looking to use DMA modes if possible on S and frankly on whatever else can use it. |
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| 20:58:30 | boku | hai, I have a question regarding the 30gb vs 60-80gb 5th generation iPods, I bought a 30gb and then upgraded to an 80gb, would I download the firmware for the 30gb or the 60-80gb? |
| 20:58:50 | BigBambi | 30 |
| 20:59:02 | boku | oh no wonder it wasn't working then! |
| 20:59:04 | BigBambi | The actual difference is memory size |
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| 20:59:14 | Xsender | hello |
| 20:59:18 | ChuckNorris | hey guys, i guess i have a very stupid question ;). i could get a Sansa e280 (V1) and i was reading up on Rockbox a bit today. The current feature status is that Rockbox doesn't support USB on this player. I realy think i missunderstand something, but how do i get any data on the player if it doesn't recognize a USB plug? |
| 20:59:18 | Xsender | i have a qustion |
| 20:59:27 | BigBambi | Xsender: Just ask |
| 20:59:30 | Xsender | can i run it on sansa e260 ? |
| 20:59:38 | amiconn | For most HDDs the transfer size should be at least 512 bytes, for the G5.5/80GB it should be at least 1KB. For flash players it's not clearly defined, as we rarely know the actual internal block size of the chips |
| 20:59:38 | boku | it should be made clearer as to what exactly the difference between the two is |
| 20:59:45 | BigBambi | ChuckNorris: Use the sansa firmware, rockbox can dual boot |
| 20:59:50 | Llorean | ChuckNorris: You can reboot into the original firmware for USB transfer, or use a microSD |
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| 21:00:04 | ChuckNorris | ic, thx |
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| 21:00:43 | Xsender | u dont understand |
| 21:00:46 | Xsender | can i run it ? |
| 21:00:52 | Xsender | coz i have problems with this |
| 21:00:55 | amiconn | So imho we should use a minimum of 4 or 8KB. Going for more than what a single ide transfer can handle (128KB) would probably make no sense |
| 21:00:58 | BigBambi | Xsender: Please use proper words, and yes, if it is V1 |
| 21:01:12 | BigBambi | Xsender: What version is the original firmware? |
| 21:01:13 | frawfraw | V1 is not a proper word |
| 21:01:17 | Xsender | how i can cheak my v |
| 21:01:22 | BigBambi | frawfraw: Yes it is |
| 21:01:27 | BigBambi | It is part of the model name |
| 21:01:41 | BigBambi | Xsender: In the info menu of the original firmware |
| 21:01:44 | frawfraw | BigBambi: you can't pick and choose acronyms and word truncations |
| 21:01:49 | frawfraw | learn to love it |
| 21:01:52 | Llorean | frawfraw: Yes, we can. |
| 21:01:54 | BigBambi | frawfraw: It is printed on the Sansa |
| 21:02:09 | BigBambi | Do you want me to make up words now? |
| 21:02:19 | Horscht | yes, you first |
| 21:02:23 | Llorean | V1 is accepted as a proper noun in reference to this player. Otherwise both Sandisk and Sansa and even e280 are "not proper words" |
| 21:02:51 | gevaerts | amiconn: maybe someone should just test it when I'm done, so we can pick the lowest size before performance starts to degrade |
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| 21:05:06 | frawfraw | BigBambi: No, but you need to realize, some people prefer easier language. My brother is paralyzed from the 4th vertebrae and types with a tongue apparatus. I don't think he'd appreciate you telling him he cant say "u" or "coz" because anything helps to make communicating less tedious |
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| 21:05:38 | BigBambi | frawfraw: It makes it much harder for blind users who need screen readers, and people of other languages who use translation |
| 21:05:45 | BigBambi | frawfraw: Like it or not, those are the rules |
| 21:06:07 | BigBambi | u and coz is much harder language for most people |
| 21:06:10 | bluebrother | frawfraw: we can have rules in here. If someone has problems with their rules and a good reason for not following them that's another story. |
| 21:06:14 | BigBambi | As it isn't real |
| 21:06:18 | frawfraw | BigBambi: I don't like it. And I won't follow them. |
| 21:06:33 | BigBambi | Then you shall be kicked, and if you continue, banned |
| 21:06:35 | frawfraw | bluebrother: Så f.u. |
| 21:06:46 | bluebrother | frawfraw: this channel has rules. Follow them or leave. |
| 21:06:49 | Horscht | how mature... |
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| 21:07:06 | * | bluebrother doesn't understand that interesting language (but guesses some bad words) |
| 21:07:08 | Mode | "#rockbox +o preglow " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 21:07:18 | * | BigBambi doesn't undersntad either |
| 21:07:22 | BigBambi | *understand |
| 21:07:30 | preglow | frawfraw: you should consider being civil |
| 21:07:34 | BigBambi | bluebrother: Hence the requirement for real words :) |
| 21:07:41 | bluebrother | BigBambi: hehe ;-) |
| 21:07:55 | frawfraw | what a bunch of arrogant assholes |
| 21:08:03 | frawfraw | seriously, fuck you |
| 21:08:07 | BigBambi | bye bye |
| 21:08:11 | * | bluebrother goes for popcorn |
| 21:08:14 | Kick | (#rockbox frawfraw :yes, bye) by preglow!i=thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow |
| 21:08:47 | pannu | action, from the beginning |
| 21:08:48 | scorche|w | he *had* to come as i was getting lunch didnt he... |
| 21:09:30 | bluebrother | obviously ;-) |
| 21:09:43 | BigBambi | he was watching and waiting |
| 21:09:59 | Mode | "#rockbox -o preglow " by preglow (i=thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) |
| 21:10:32 | Domonoky | bluebrother: waht do you think ? ,should we release a new rbutil version ? no new bug reports till a few days... (and the binarys in the wiki have many bugs) |
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| 21:10:50 | * | JdGordon|w says go for it! |
| 21:10:53 | preglow | Domonoky: well, why not? |
| 21:11:07 | Llorean | Domonoky: Yes! |
| 21:11:08 | BigBambi | Domonoky: It must be better than the linux version on the wiki where the complete install doesn't work |
| 21:11:27 | bluebrother | Domonoky: does the complete install work reliably now? |
| 21:11:36 | Domonoky | so, then lets make a label for it, and try to build binarys for all platforms.. |
| 21:11:40 | Llorean | The currently available versions are outdated, both feature-wise and fix-wise. Even if we introduce some new bugs, getting rid of or reducing older ones should make it worth it. |
| 21:11:51 | bluebrother | yeps. I can build w32 and linux binaries. |
| 21:11:53 | Domonoky | bluebrother: i dont really tested it fully, but it should .. :-) |
| 21:12:13 | JdGordon|w | do we do OSX rbutil builds? |
| 21:12:23 | bluebrother | ok, so a new minor version bump and after that's released lets try to get 1.1 done |
| 21:12:32 | bluebrother | JdGordon|w: barrywardell did them iirc |
| 21:12:45 | Domonoky | jup, i think linuxstb has done the last rbutil OSX build.. |
| 21:13:22 | JdGordon|w | ok, ill leave it tpo them |
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| 21:16:17 | Domonoky_ | who make the tag/branch for rbutil m1.04 ? i dont think i know how to do it anymore.. :-) |
| 21:18:03 | * | Domonoky_ found it out again.. :-) |
| 21:18:25 | * | bluebrother just was about looking it up |
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| 21:20:27 | * | Domonoky_ has created the tag/branch : svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/tags/rbutil_m1.0.4 |
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| 21:21:38 | bluebrother | nice. Have you also updated version.h? |
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| 21:21:58 | Domonoky_ | ups :-/ |
| 21:22:05 | * | JdGordon|w wonders what the point of the branch is unless your going to use it to backport bugfixes later |
| 21:22:50 | bluebrother | JdGordon|w: to not need to remember the revision of the release? |
| 21:23:11 | bluebrother | and as tags and branches are pretty much the same in svn ... |
| 21:23:52 | * | Domonoky_ updated the version.h in the branch :-) |
| 21:24:30 | bluebrother | did you "backport" it to trunk too? ;-) |
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| 21:25:55 | Domonoky_ | will also do it on the trunk, i just have to switch my svn again.. :-) |
| 21:26:15 | bluebrother | does svn auto-switching branches? |
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| 21:27:07 | * | gevaerts is going to test his 4kb buffer usb storage driver. |
| 21:27:16 | Domonoky_ | tortoisesvn allows to switch to a branch.. very nice.. |
| 21:28:20 | * | bluebrother fires up the compiler and leaves for food for a bit ... mingw isn't the fastest at building |
| 21:28:36 | |sanchez| | Domonoky you said no rockbox for 3g nano? |
| 21:28:48 | scorche|w | correct |
| 21:28:58 | |sanchez| | as in its not coming out ever or its just not out now? |
| 21:29:20 | |sanchez| | Cause id be happy to get involved in developing for it if anyone else is interested |
| 21:29:31 | amiconn | No port will magically happen |
| 21:29:36 | scorche|w | i forgot my crystal ball, so i cant say if it will "ever" happen |
| 21:29:38 | |sanchez| | im aware of that |
| 21:29:42 | Domonoky_ | nobody is working on it.. |
| 21:29:45 | scorche|w | but currently no one is working on it |
| 21:29:46 | |sanchez| | thank you Domonoky |
| 21:29:49 | |sanchez| | tahts what i was curious about |
| 21:29:56 | amiconn | Ports are done by users having the repective target, and enough skills to do it |
| 21:29:57 | * | scorche|w is slow today =/ |
| 21:30:07 | |sanchez| | thanks amiconn :) |
| 21:30:16 | * | gevaerts can't understand how scorche|w can forget something as essential as a crystal ball |
| 21:31:01 | scorche|w | gevaerts: well, the issue is, is i need my crystal ball to be able to find my crystal ball...i think you can see my problem? |
| 21:31:07 | Domonoky_ | it seams crystal balls are especially nice for debugging usb code :-) |
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| 21:33:24 | * | jhMikeS suggests simply using the will and to visualize already having it to attract said crystal ball |
| 21:34:22 | * | gevaerts visualizes already having high-speed usb working |
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| 21:34:54 | * | GodEater_ joins hands with gevaerts to lend his will too |
| 21:34:54 | pannu | why not try the Orb of Fate? |
| 21:35:37 | jhMikeS | there is no fate, just cause and effect |
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| 21:57:49 | midkay | Bagder: ping! |
| 21:58:47 | bluebrother | Bagder: I've put w32 and linux binaries of rbutil 1.0.4 online. Can you grab them from http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/ and move them to the download server please? |
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| 22:01:07 | Domonoky_ | JdGordon|w : i just took a look at your last settings_list.c dump.. it does seam parseable.. but at line 226 something strange happens.. and for some settings there are no min/max values (SOUND_SETTING) .. |
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| 22:02:03 | JdGordon|w | Domonoky_: yeah, the sound settings might be difficult to handle because they arnt actually set in settings_list.c |
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| 22:02:20 | JdGordon|w | ill post a different version in the ml tonight when i get home |
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| 22:02:55 | bluebrother | nice idea to add the release date to the changelog of rbutil |
| 22:03:32 | bluebrother | anyway, gtg for today. bye. |
| 22:03:45 | Domonoky_ | bye.. |
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| 22:09:02 | Bagder | bluebrother: (for the logs) done! |
| 22:09:39 | * | gevaerts is an idiot |
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| 22:09:47 | * | GodEater_ disagrees |
| 22:10:18 | gevaerts | Note to self: when reducing buffer sizes, also reduce the size of the ata read |
| 22:10:26 | rasher | That's probably smart |
| 22:10:27 | GodEater_ | hehehe |
| 22:10:33 | GodEater_ | yeah I would imagine it's a good plan |
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| 22:12:50 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: so what does this finding imply overall? |
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| 22:14:25 | * | Domonoky_ updated the links on the rbutil wikipage, now we need a osx build... :-) |
| 22:14:50 | * | GodEater_ summons linuxstb |
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| 22:14:59 | GodEater_ | who, if he recalls correctly, is in Cairo at the moment... |
| 22:15:03 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I'm now testing with a 4k transfer buffer instead of the 128k buffer I used until now. It looks hopeful |
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| 22:15:22 | GodEater_ | gevaerts: for high speed ? |
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| 22:15:53 | amiconn | Domonoky_: No linux-amd64 build either... |
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| 22:16:20 | rasher | amiconn: can't you run the 32-bit build? It's statically linked, right? |
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| 22:16:36 | amiconn | Not sure whether that would work |
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| 22:16:37 | gevaerts | GodEater_: not yet, unfortunately. But reducing RAM usage while at the same time removing some limitations (the SCSI transfer size the OS can use) sounds good to me anyway |
| 22:16:38 | low_light | amiconn: did you see my question from earlier? ... Do you know understand ADC_CLOCK_SRC for pp5020? On mrobe 100, OF sets it to 4, BL uses 2, and in Rockbox we use 3. |
| 22:16:44 | Domonoky_ | amiconn: if someone builds a 64bit build, why not... *hint* :-) |
| 22:17:06 | rasher | I wonder if it's maybe time to pester the Debian devs again |
| 22:17:14 | rasher | About packaging rbutil for Debian, that is |
| 22:17:23 | amiconn | low_light: No I don't. My guess is that it works similar to the lcd bridge clock though |
| 22:17:35 | Bagder | midkay: yes? |
| 22:17:50 | * | amiconn has no idea what's needed to build rbuitl |
| 22:18:09 | * | Bagder bets there's a wiki page for it ;-) |
| 22:18:16 | * | amiconn did not even run rbutil a single time so far (on any os) |
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| 22:18:45 | * | gevaerts is happy to have a sacrificial sd card for write testing |
| 22:19:13 | * | Domonoky_ thinks rbutil needs Qt and libusb on linux, thats it.. :-) |
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| 22:19:35 | * | JdGordon|w thinks of something usefull to pretend to be doing |
| 22:20:14 | crzyboyster | soap: Are you going to be putting the new Viewports testing builds up? |
| 22:20:38 | * | JdGordon|w punches crzyboyster in the face for breaking the /me thing |
| 22:20:43 | amiconn | Trying to download rbutil 1.0.4 for linux causes a 404 |
| 22:21:06 | Bagder | get it from the haxx server for now |
| 22:21:06 | * | Domonoky_ thinks we need to wait for the mirrors to pick it up.. |
| 22:21:10 | Bagder | I just put it there |
| 22:21:19 | * | amiconn hates this mirroring stuff |
| 22:21:29 | Bagder | you shouldn't hate it |
| 22:21:38 | Bagder | it's what makes us survive the traffic |
| 22:21:43 | crzyboyster | JdGordon|w : What /me thing? |
| 22:21:57 | amiconn | You never know whether the file is actually missing, or you ended up on a lazy mirror |
| 22:22:22 | Bagder | all mirrors sync once per hour |
| 22:22:34 | amiconn | hmm |
| 22:22:45 | Bagder | but some of them don't delete old files very good... |
| 22:22:47 | amiconn | Can't they sync on some kind of change trigger? |
| 22:23:11 | * | GodEater_ wonders how that would work |
| 22:23:22 | Bagder | well, we _could_ work out such a system |
| 22:23:28 | Bagder | but as all such systems someone would have to do it |
| 22:23:37 | Bagder | and then get the admins of those servers to deploy it |
| 22:23:55 | scorche|w | git? |
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| 22:24:27 | Bagder | well, git wouldn't fix it by itself |
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| 22:24:51 | tlkg_ | hey guys |
| 22:24:58 | scorche|w | no, but it could lay the framework down for what this is sounding like |
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| 22:25:27 | * | GodEater_ doesn't follow scorche's argument |
| 22:25:35 | Bagder | well, the mirrors would still need to get told when the master is changed |
| 22:25:48 | Bagder | git doesn't tell its clients when the server changes |
| 22:25:49 | * | scorche|w could be just misunderstanding too |
| 22:26:25 | GodEater_ | I presume that we don't have logins to push the stuff to them either |
| 22:26:26 | * | Domonoky_ is for a jabber service .. :-) |
| 22:26:35 | Bagder | GodEater: correct |
| 22:26:47 | GodEater_ | I wouldn't worry it about it then to be honest |
| 22:26:50 | GodEater_ | 1 hour is good enough |
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| 22:27:15 | Bagder | that's my opinion as well |
| 22:27:27 | * | amiconn seems to be unable to figure out the direct download url |
| 22:27:58 | * | GodEater_ wonders why amiconn is trying to download it when he could just build it |
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| 22:28:13 | amiconn | I wanted to test the linux-x86 version on amd64 |
| 22:28:18 | GodEater_ | ah |
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| 22:28:35 | Bagder | amiconn: in the url, s/download/haxx |
| 22:28:42 | Domonoky_ | http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/ :-) |
| 22:28:50 | Bagder | right, there too |
| 22:29:01 | amiconn | And I can't 'just' build it either, as building it requires qt, which I don't have installed |
| 22:29:26 | GodEater_ | you have no QT apps at all ? |
| 22:29:29 | GodEater_ | wow |
| 22:29:51 | Domonoky_ | GodEater_: you need the Qt dev package.. not the runtime libs.. |
| 22:29:51 | Bagder | well, most qt apps won't need the qt-dev package I guess |
| 22:30:03 | amiconn | Well, qt is what kde apps use, correct? |
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| 22:30:06 | GodEater_ | I still have my gentoo head on it seems ;) |
| 22:30:11 | amiconn | My box is kde free |
| 22:30:12 | GodEater_ | of course you're correct |
| 22:30:20 | GodEater_ | there are QT apps other than KDE ones |
| 22:30:32 | * | gevaerts has managed to copy 130MB of files to his sansa and reading them back, using only a 4Kb transfer buffer |
| 22:30:36 | GodEater_ | QTScrobbler for example |
| 22:31:00 | Bagder | gevaerts: any noticable speed difference or so? |
| 22:31:10 | gevaerts | Bagder: that's my next test |
| 22:31:15 | Bagder | ok |
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| 22:32:28 | desowin | amiconn: kde is built on top of qt, but there's fair amount of apps that only require qt (not kde) to work, also it's quite nice framework |
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| 22:32:44 | amiconn | rbutil doesn't run on my box. libusb-0.1.so.4 ... no such file or directory |
| 22:33:25 | amiconn | Didn't Domonoky_ say it's statically linked? |
| 22:33:28 | Domonoky_ | so bluebrother didnt built libusb statically... i think.. :-/ |
| 22:33:48 | Bagder | obviously not... |
| 22:33:51 | amiconn | libusb *is* installed though |
| 22:34:16 | GodEater_ | you have a 64bit one though right ? |
| 22:34:20 | amiconn | (but of course the amd64 version, which won't work for a 32 bit app I guess) |
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| 22:34:54 | desowin | yes, 32bit and 64bit binaries can't link to each other |
| 22:35:23 | GodEater_ | I ended up with all 32bit browsers on my amd64 install |
| 22:35:27 | GodEater_ | due to the flash issue |
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| 22:35:32 | amiconn | No qt4 installed at all, btw. Only some qt3 packages |
| 22:35:49 | desowin | GodEater_: nspluginwrapper suits me well |
| 22:35:58 | * | amiconn in fact likes that his browsers on that box are flash free |
| 22:36:04 | GodEater_ | desowin: I'll take a look at that |
| 22:36:13 | GodEater_ | I couldn't live without youtube ;) |
| 22:36:15 | * | gevaerts only uses flash for data storage |
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| 22:36:39 | GodEater_ | how's cairo ? |
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| 22:38:59 | amiconn | Whoa, selecting libqt4-dev for installation wants to select 28 further packages :\ |
| 22:39:35 | desowin | qt components are splitted in debian-like systems |
| 22:40:16 | * | amiconn wonders why that even selects mysql-common |
| 22:40:47 | desowin | oh, I think the mysql plugin shouldn't be as default |
| 22:41:08 | desowin | there's QtSql, which is quite nice |
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| 22:42:45 | hachi | is there a way to get rockbox to tell me the state of the disk inside my ipod? |
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| 22:42:53 | hachi | maybe it's failing, I'm trying to figure out |
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| 22:46:05 | JdGordon|w | there is a SMART plugin in the tracker I think which will do that |
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| 22:47:16 | troxor | is anyone having issues with the 5G ipod build within the last few weeks? Namely, changing songs has a delay (several minutes) |
| 22:47:30 | gevaerts | Bagder: speed results for variuos transfer sizes at http://pastebin.ca/910337 |
| 22:47:38 | n1s | troxor: is it an 80Gb model? |
| 22:47:46 | troxor | n1s: yessir |
| 22:48:00 | Bagder | gevaerts: thanks, interesting... |
| 22:48:08 | n1s | troxor: then, yes it's a known problem in builds since r 16105 |
| 22:48:50 | troxor | n1s: good to know it's a known problem then, thanks! :) |
| 22:49:12 | gevaerts | Bagder: I don't know how much of the difference is USB and how much is SD. |
| 22:49:53 | Bagder | right, you'd have to do dummy operations on ram instead of flash or something to figure that out |
| 22:50:37 | amiconn | Rockbox ramdisk, anyone? ;) |
| 22:51:07 | gevaerts | I'll try to think of a way to do that. |
| 22:51:21 | * | amiconn thinks a test on an hdd based target might also be helpful |
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| 22:51:53 | * | gevaerts will upload this code soon, so someone can do the test |
| 22:54:03 | amiconn | iPods are practically unbrickable, so even write tests won't be a problem |
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| 22:55:22 | dan_a | Bagder: Do you know if anyone has made use of MrH's DMA documentation? |
| 22:55:33 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 22:56:02 | dan_a | Darn. My tests are making Rockbox hang completely |
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| 22:56:22 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'm not really afraid of bricking my c250, but all this reformatting and reinstalling is a hassle |
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| 23:00:10 | jhMikeS | graph form :) jhmikes.cleansoap.org/usb-rw-speed-chart.bmp">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/usb-rw-speed-chart.bmp |
| 23:00:59 | amiconn | Ugh, bmp takes quite a while |
| 23:01:25 | Horscht | i wish i was behind a modem |
| 23:02:32 | Horscht | I would klick a link, go get something to eat, eat it, go get something to drink, drink it, and when coming back, the image would have been loaded 25% |
| 23:02:44 | n1s | jhMikeS: any progress on the gigabeast spi interface? I wish I could help but really can't wrap my head around this jungle of interrupt stuff... |
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| 23:05:55 | markun | Bagder: I'm looking at the meizu firmware, the first part is normal ARM, them follows a RAR compressed part which I uncompressed. This rar archive contains 1.3MB of ARM code. Would it be a bad idea to add this file to the wiki because of copyright problems? |
| 23:06:15 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:06:34 | Bagder | add your description on how to extract it instead |
| 23:06:38 | markun | I will |
| 23:06:46 | n1s | wow, rar... |
| 23:07:04 | markun | n1s: I guess the arm code at the beginning is unrar code, but I'm not sure |
| 23:07:11 | markun | it's rather small |
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| 23:08:13 | amiconn | 'small' being? |
| 23:08:26 | amiconn | Iirc the unrar code for x86 is ~10KB |
| 23:08:54 | amiconn | And they could have thinned it out further, e.g. by only supporting a single compression mode |
| 23:09:10 | amiconn | (like our ucl decompressor used on archos does) |
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| 23:10:42 | jhMikeS | n1s: I got it to work but it needs refinement. I'm not sure how general it should be though. |
| 23:13:51 | markun | amiconn: I'll check after cleaning the meizu wiki page.. |
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| 23:17:11 | n1s | jhMikeS: great :) I'm happy if we can talk to the pmic... |
| 23:17:40 | gevaerts | Dummy read/write results at http://pastebin.ca/910379 |
| 23:18:05 | * | gevaerts discovered that dd uses decimal kilobytes in its speed measurements |
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| 23:21:54 | stripwax | Domonoky - the download link from the rbutil wiki page gives me a 404: http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/win32/rbutilqt-v1.0.4.zip |
| 23:22:45 | rasher | stripwax: s/download/haxx/ |
| 23:24:08 | stripwax | rasher - yep, that seems to work better. |
| 23:24:31 | Domonoky_ | the first mirror has picked it up, i can now download it.. :-) |
| 23:24:34 | rasher | Hasn't propagated to the mirrors yet |
| 23:26:27 | jhMikeS | more charts jhmikes.cleansoap.org/usb-rw-speed-chart2.bmp">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/usb-rw-speed-chart2.bmp |
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| 23:27:00 | gevaerts | On my c250 read and write speed are similar for internal flash and my microsd card. |
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| 23:27:38 | markun | amiconn: the code before the rar archive is about 5.6 KB |
| 23:27:54 | stripwax | Domonoky - after doing the Install Rockbox with this version, and clicking on the -> Install button, you get the popup showing progress, then when it's done I'm back on the Install Rockbox popup screen .. that used to just disappear once installation had completed |
| 23:28:15 | stripwax | So I guess I just click Cancel, now that it's installed successfully? |
| 23:28:32 | jhMikeS | practically no additional return from going from 64 to 128K buffers |
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| 23:29:18 | gevaerts | It looks like for larger transfer buffers (16k+) it spends about half the time writing and half the time transfering. If I interpret that correctly, it means that using a double-buffering system will saturate the flash write speed, so high-speed won't buy us much for the sansa (at least the c200) |
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| 23:30:13 | JdGordon|w | can you write to RAM on one core and use the other core to write it out to flash? |
| 23:30:21 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: indeed. That means that we can at least gain 64k back without anyone noticing. |
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| 23:30:50 | gevaerts | JdGordon|w: the USB transfer is dma, so in principle we don't even need the second core. |
| 23:31:02 | JdGordon|w | ah ok |
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| 23:32:28 | gevaerts | Disregarding speed, going to 20k or less has the advantage that the driver can be simplified (it now has to manage chains of transfer descriptors, which wouldn't be needed then) |
| 23:32:36 | amiconn | gevaerts: It means the flash driver needs optimisation... |
| 23:32:57 | amiconn | You could build test_disk.rock and run the speed tests on the sansa |
| 23:33:26 | gevaerts | I'm going to run my speed test on the OF first |
| 23:34:09 | amiconn | test_disk.rock tests rockbox <-> internal storage speed (hdd, flash disk, whatever) |
| 23:35:03 | * | amiconn wonders whether gevaerts put up his latest code somewhere |
| 23:36:32 | gevaerts | amiconn: I uploaded it to flyspray (except the dummy read/write code) |
| 23:39:06 | markun | Bagder: ever head of "uCOSII"? |
| 23:39:58 | * | gevaerts is running test_disk now |
| 23:40:02 | markun | from the uncompressed meizu firmware: "S5L8700 uCOSII with DOkdo FS 2007.01.24(3.43)" |
| 23:40:57 | rasher | markun: seems to come from micrium.com |
| 23:41:33 | rasher | markun: http://www.micrium.com/products/rtos/kernel/rtos.html |
| 23:41:48 | markun | rasher: thanks |
| 23:42:10 | * | JdGordon|w used that in embedded systems last year |
| 23:43:21 | amiconn | Hmm. |
| 23:43:44 | amiconn | ums_v19.diff doesn't compile here |
| 23:43:52 | amiconn | (building for mini G2) |
| 23:44:29 | gevaerts | What does it say ? |
| 23:44:47 | amiconn | http://pastebin.ca/910405 |
| 23:46:30 | | Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:46:31 | | Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) |
| 23:46:43 | gevaerts | looking at it now |
| 23:47:57 | gevaerts | amiconn: that _inquiry should be struct inquiry_data |
| 23:49:13 | gevaerts | amiconn: hold that one. There's more wrong with it. |
| 23:51:37 | gevaerts | amiconn: Actually there wasn't. I misread my diff of diffs. Uploaded v20 with the _inquiry fix. I tested building for mini G2 |
| 23:54:01 | gevaerts | I uploaded my test disk results to http://pastebin.ca/910417 |
| 23:54:19 | gevaerts | It looks as if boosting on usb connect might make sense |
| 23:55:33 | amiconn | Looks like it |
| 23:56:06 | amiconn | Would it be possible to only boost on activity? (with some delay for unboosting, in order to not do it too often) |
| 23:56:19 | amiconn | Or does boosting/unboosting disturb transfers? |
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| 23:57:45 | hachi | troxor: I'm having this issue |
| 23:58:14 | hachi | is there a way I can downgrade to before r 16105 |
| 23:58:23 | gevaerts | It shouldn't disturb anything. How fast is boosting/unboosting ? i.e. does it make sense to boost when a write command comes in and unboost when it is handled ? |
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