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| 00:23:49 | ek0 | any idea when a new version that supports new ipods 6 gen will be out ? is it being worked on ? |
| 00:26:57 | markun | ek0: I don't think anyone is working on it |
| 00:28:13 | ek0 | hmmm... you know of any rockbox alternative ? my major concern is being able to use file structure to choose what to play |
| 00:29:08 | markun | I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist |
| 00:29:21 | ek0 | darn ! |
| 00:29:34 | markun | otherwise people would also be porting rockbox |
| 00:29:35 | scorche|sh | if it did exist, we should have some helpful clues =/ |
| 00:30:41 | ek0 | i am gonna have to go through my mp3's making playlists and fixing id3 tags... the horror |
| 00:32:01 | scorche|sh | next time consider a different device then ;) |
| 00:32:05 | toffe82 | markun: how can you write a tool to dump of the bootloader if you have don't really have access to the system ? ? |
| 00:32:53 | ek0 | scorche|sh: got anything else that holds 160 gigs :( i hate apple, but what's the feasable alternative :( |
| 00:34:24 | scorche|sh | ek0: as far as 160 GB, only one current rockbox target can go up that high, however it is likely not what you are looking for |
| 00:34:34 | scorche|sh | (well, one family) |
| 00:34:43 | ek0 | archos ? |
| 00:34:51 | scorche|sh | yup |
| 00:35:01 | scorche|sh | others have been upgraded to 100 |
| 00:35:10 | ek0 | too expensive for me, and too big (physically) |
| 00:36:04 | scorche|sh | expensive? |
| 00:36:09 | scorche|sh | i doubt that |
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| 00:37:19 | roolku | low_light: great stuff. looks like you have been busy |
| 00:38:03 | ek0 | 450 $ is a bit expensive my friend :P |
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| 00:41:42 | scorche|sh | ek0: the archoses i am talking about are the ones that rockbox supports (not much sense to talk about much else in this channel) |
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| 00:41:53 | scorche|sh | ...which are >6 years old |
| 00:42:13 | ek0 | ohh okay |
| 00:42:28 | ek0 | well thanks anyways, you guys have been helpful |
| 00:42:30 | ek0 | toodles |
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| 05:26:42 | RunningUtes | Does anyone know how to enable morse code in the virtual keyboard for sansa e200 |
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| 05:36:31 | blackk | RunningUtes: try defining KBD_MORSE_INPUT |
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| 06:06:32 | blackk | RunningUtes: also you need to define ACTION_KBD_MORSE_INPUT and ACTION_KBD_MORSE_SELECT in apps/keymaps/keymap-e200.c |
| 06:07:23 | RunningUtes | thanks, I'll read up on that |
| 06:07:44 | RunningUtes | I assume that there is a way to compile in linux |
| 06:08:52 | blackk | RunningUtes: the easiest way to start is to download the VMWare image (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform) |
| 06:10:40 | RunningUtes | thanks for the tip. I put in a request, but thought that I would check out the IRC for info |
| 06:10:45 | RunningUtes | have a nice night |
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| 06:12:32 | scorche|sh | ...why would he need to bother with the VMware image in linux? |
| 06:13:13 | blackk | true |
| 06:13:39 | blackk | any reason morse was not enabled on sansas? |
| 06:15:38 | JdGordon | because noone has set up the keys for it |
| 06:16:13 | blackk | ok, I'll do it then |
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| 07:01:13 | blackk | ok, done, I have the patch to enable morse on e200. is it better to add it as a comment to the future request or as a patch? |
| 07:01:35 | Llorean | Patch |
| 07:01:54 | Llorean | That way people searching can find it. Then request that the feature request be closed |
| 07:06:24 | blackk | ok, done. FS #8719 |
| 07:10:08 | blackk | works quite nicely, easier than scrolling around through the virtual keyboard |
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| 08:20:35 | amiconn | hrrmmm |
| 08:20:55 | amiconn | Viewport lists are still broken |
| 08:26:21 | JdGordon | amiconn: my crystal ball is broken... if you find a bloody bug why dont you say what it is instead of just saying its there?! |
| 08:27:49 | amiconn | (1) List colours are broken on X5 remote. Strangely enough, it seems to behave different between target and sim, so I'm not sure why this happens |
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| 08:28:43 | amiconn | On my X5, the lists are black-on-black now (I have the main lcd set to the good old rockbox standard colours, with an orange solid-colour selector bar and black text) |
| 08:28:58 | amiconn | I mean the lists *on the remote* are black on black |
| 08:31:13 | amiconn | (2) The button bar problem on recorder is also still there |
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| 08:34:55 | XavierGr | Bagder, Zagor: The favicon on the main page of Rockbox.org is somehow broken. It works on some pages though |
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| 09:11:46 | amiconn | JdGordon: Problem (3) Statusbar redraw interval seems to be too long if no button is pressed. Just boot rockbox on a target with virtual disk LED (dircache disabled) and watch the icon, touching no button |
| 09:13:21 | * | petur reads some great news, google will be accepting more projects for GSoC this year... |
| 09:14:25 | GodEater | has our application been sent off yet ? |
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| 09:15:10 | petur | I think so, yes |
| 09:16:54 | petur | Zagor: the change links in the build table no longer work |
| 09:17:15 | petur | example: http://build.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-20080310T213921Z.html |
| 09:18:55 | Zagor | odd, that is Bagder's baby and should not have been affected by my move. |
| 09:33:23 | SSnake | good morning |
| 09:34:01 | SSnake | yesterday night i wasn't able to make the menu stuff work... |
| 09:34:21 | SSnake | so there's some problem with my code indeed |
| 09:37:33 | SSnake | exactly in the moment i call rb->do_menu(...) all audio stops and playlist becomes empty |
| 09:37:49 | SSnake | anyone ever had this kind of "problem" |
| 09:37:50 | SSnake | ? |
| 09:38:27 | pondlife | SSnake: Would that require the audio buffer for some reason? |
| 09:39:02 | pondlife | Perhaps you could try it on the simulator and step through the code in gdb |
| 09:39:04 | SSnake | all the plugin calls only plugbuf |
| 09:40:40 | SSnake | ....never used gdb....does it take long to learn? |
| 09:40:47 | pondlife | No |
| 09:40:48 | stripwax | nah |
| 09:41:54 | SSnake | is there some wiki to start on? or i have to search on google for gnu gdb? |
| 09:44:19 | SSnake | ah i was forgetting to ask...i didn't know if sound works under sim...so i tried playing back an mp3: it crashed. So sim sound it's not supported? |
| 09:44:40 | stripwax | sim sound works fine for me |
| 09:44:57 | stripwax | on cygwin/xp |
| 09:45:27 | SSnake | DOH! |
| 09:46:03 | JdGordon | 1) no idea, cant see anything wrong there, and if its different from the sim I cant do much about debugging it.. 2) still trying to think of a better solution to what I've got, 3) that depends on the screen and isnt really a big deal |
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| 09:56:49 | Zagor | Bagderr: do you know why the diffs on build/dev.cgi no longer work? did I break that? |
| 09:57:08 | Bagderr | yes, the svn log script doesn't find the .pm file |
| 09:57:18 | Zagor | which pm file? |
| 09:57:21 | Bagderr | nicedate |
| 09:57:25 | Zagor | aha |
| 09:57:27 | Zagor | fixing |
| 09:57:43 | Bagderr | imho, we should move that to the same dir or let the script set the search path before the require |
| 09:58:09 | Bagderr | I use that script from multiple places |
| 09:59:02 | Zagor | hmm, why doesn't it find the pm? it hasn't moved |
| 09:59:21 | Bagderr | it never found it nicely anyway |
| 09:59:31 | Bagderr | I just did weird hacks in my side to make it work before |
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| 10:00:46 | Zagor | push @INC, "/path/to/pm"; |
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| 10:05:29 | SSnake | ...trying to install all the cygwin toolchain...crossing my fingers in the hope it was my debian distro fault... |
| 10:06:00 | Bagderr | SSnake: debian works perfectly for rockbox development |
| 10:06:16 | * | mrkiko confirms |
| 10:06:25 | SSnake | i know...the vmware image also is debian |
| 10:06:48 | SSnake | i tried installing vmware player etc and it seg faulted when i loaded an mp3 |
| 10:06:59 | mrkiko | wow |
| 10:07:01 | SSnake | even inside vmware image |
| 10:07:23 | mrkiko | I can't even get the sim to play an mp3 file |
| 10:07:36 | mrkiko | (it simply don't support audio on my system even if there are no sdl - compilation problem) |
| 10:07:54 | mrkiko | And since the emu is a graphic-mode app, I stopped trying to get it work. I have no possibilities ... |
| 10:09:02 | SSnake | nice to hear i'm not the only one in this situation :P |
| 10:09:32 | * | pondlife uses the sim as his media player. |
| 10:09:39 | pondlife | So I can test while at work... |
| 10:09:58 | SSnake | about my playbak-control.h "findings" do i have to query LinusN? |
| 10:10:56 | JdGordon | whats your findings? |
| 10:11:44 | SSnake | playback-control.h |
| 10:12:12 | SSnake | the playback_control_menu variable is not a pointer to that structure |
| 10:12:24 | SSnake | it is the structure |
| 10:13:37 | JdGordon | grr.. an extra * got in there? |
| 10:13:41 | SSnake | exactly |
| 10:15:11 | mrkiko | Oh... this may cause crashes some times |
| 10:15:12 | SSnake | i discovered while trying to use it...the compiler warned about a different type conflict.. |
| 10:15:40 | SSnake | but i think actually no plugins uses that variable |
| 10:15:53 | JdGordon | yeah, nothing uses it... why are you trying to though? |
| 10:16:45 | JdGordon | fixef |
| 10:16:46 | SSnake | because there was something in my plugin that didn't worked so i started checking all files used, including playback-.control.h/c |
| 10:17:05 | SSnake | but unfortunately nothing worked |
| 10:17:30 | stripwax | a bug in your plugin? |
| 10:17:54 | SSnake | yes it seems so....but i can't understand why |
| 10:18:00 | stripwax | did gdb help? |
| 10:18:22 | SSnake | never used..i should start learning that |
| 10:21:08 | Bagderr | pointers suck? ;-) |
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| 10:23:40 | JdGordon | s/pointers/me :p |
| 10:24:33 | SSnake | ah ah... JdGordon you should also fix the dict.c buffer handling error |
| 10:24:45 | SSnake | of course not made by you :P |
| 10:25:18 | SSnake | it's also on flyspray but didn't see anyone fixing it |
| 10:26:20 | stripwax | Is it expected that profiling doesn't work for a thread on the cop on pp targets? |
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| 10:35:52 | amiconn | stripwax: I would expect that, yes. Profiling was developed on coldfire, i.e. single core |
| 10:36:36 | amiconn | And iirc the profiling result processing script doesn't work for arm either |
| 10:39:05 | stripwax | amiconn - yeah, pretty sure the result parsing won't work, but for cpu profile I get some kind of output, and for cop profile I get a profile.out full of zeros |
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| 10:39:40 | stripwax | was trying to profile pacbox when I noticed that. I was using my pacbox-on-cop patch ;-) will try profiling without that patch |
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| 10:44:38 | DerPapst | hi all |
| 10:45:01 | petur | morning |
| 10:45:19 | DerPapst | :)+ |
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| 10:46:49 | DerPapst | i was wondering, now, that the lists are using viewports is it possible that i can place the list on some "random" position on the screen in a plugin? (e.g. 20px from the top and 10px from the left) |
| 10:55:09 | Bagderr | Zagor: I think it is worth adding the www in svn on the front page news, so that committers start realizing what it means... :-) |
| 10:56:23 | petur | oh, we can modify the www? :) |
| 10:56:53 | amiconn | Bagder: That's the good old www/ path in svn now? |
| 10:56:59 | Bagderr | yes |
| 10:57:10 | amiconn | petur: That was already possible long long ago, in cvs times... |
| 10:57:20 | Bagderr | it only took a few years... |
| 10:57:33 | petur | hmmm before my time then... |
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| 11:00:00 | Bagderr | youngster! |
| 11:00:11 | * | petur bows |
| 11:02:45 | * | petur managed to get svn bootloader reliable on his h380 by adding several printf in the ata init code :( must figure out which one is critical. Bootloader usb mode likes to hang too :( |
| 11:04:11 | amiconn | Did you try making the sleep() after ata powerup a bit longer? |
| 11:06:02 | petur | first thing I tried... nothing |
| 11:06:34 | petur | and while testing I got loads if illegal instructions and stuff... |
| 11:07:16 | pondlife | Nice |
| 11:07:18 | petur | also, replacing printf with sleep didn't quite do the trick, which puzzles me |
| 11:07:35 | pondlife | How about a simple (long) for loop? |
| 11:07:49 | petur | but it seems to be really specific to my h380 :/ |
| 11:08:06 | pondlife | I should try the latest SVN bootloader. |
| 11:08:25 | pondlife | Currently running r14938M |
| 11:08:36 | pondlife | But I can't recall what the M was :/ |
| 11:08:46 | petur | and no more time for it until next week (got a short ski-trip coming up) |
| 11:09:54 | pondlife | Zagor: Would you consider putting the wiki-style side menu on the other pages (i.e. one without breaks, that looks better in IE7)? |
| 11:10:13 | petur | I wonder why LinusN prevented booting Rockbox when the charger is inserted. It stays in the bootloader now, so car mode is not possible. IMHO, it should just boot and charge there |
| 11:10:29 | DerPapst | pondlife: M == Modified |
| 11:10:31 | Zagor | pondlife: I've added it to some pages but not all due to the mess the homepage was in before. i'll do it everywhere now. |
| 11:10:44 | pondlife | I assume that you don't want to spin up the HD if battery is flat. |
| 11:10:52 | LinusN | petur: because there were occasions where the battery was so low that it couldn't boot |
| 11:10:52 | pondlife | DerPapst: I know, but I don't recall what I modified |
| 11:10:57 | petur | DerPapst: I'm sure he knows what M means, just not what he modified |
| 11:10:59 | DerPapst | ah ok ;-) |
| 11:11:07 | * | petur slow |
| 11:11:07 | pondlife | With a bootloader that might be quite important :) |
| 11:11:07 | * | DerPapst hides |
| 11:11:19 | Zagor | pondlife: I assume for example http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml looks ok for you? |
| 11:11:35 | petur | LinusN: so boot if battery > safety_voltage ? |
| 11:11:36 | pondlife | No, that's squished |
| 11:11:43 | Zagor | ! |
| 11:11:50 | LinusN | petur: something like that |
| 11:11:51 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome looks good |
| 11:12:11 | petur | LinusN: looks like something to do next week :) |
| 11:12:31 | Zagor | pondlife: then my hypothesis about whitespace was wrong. it's something else. |
| 11:12:41 | pondlife | I wonder what.. |
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| 11:15:06 | pondlife | charset being specified? |
| 11:15:52 | Zagor | they use different dtd's. twiki is xhtml 1.0 while the homepage is html4 |
| 11:16:34 | * | petur doesn't care, IE7 sucks anyway |
| 11:18:57 | XavierGr | Zagor did you see my comment about the broken favicon on the main page? |
| 11:19:02 | pondlife | True, but what chance of a fix and I'm stuck with it at work |
| 11:19:10 | Zagor | XavierGr: no |
| 11:19:32 | XavierGr | Zagor: it seems that it works on certain pages but not on the main one and some others |
| 11:20:09 | pondlife | XavierGr: Does it work only on wiki-based pages? i.e. extras is ok, but releases is not |
| 11:20:25 | Zagor | XavierGr: fixed |
| 11:21:13 | XavierGr | Zagor: thanks |
| 11:22:15 | DerPapst | doesn't the new IE7 have a better render engine (even better then ff2)? |
| 11:22:38 | Bagderr | "better" surely depends on who you ask |
| 11:23:07 | DerPapst | well it passes the acid2 test wich ff2's doesn't. |
| 11:23:23 | Zagor | to be fair, many browsers do weird things in transitional mode. I |
| 11:23:30 | Zagor | 'm switching to 4.01 strict |
| 11:23:46 | DerPapst | heh |
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| 11:25:18 | Bagderr | everything will be good in html5 |
| 11:25:22 | * | Bagderr ducks and runs |
| 11:26:00 | * | gevaerts recommends to put the entire website in one big hyperlinked pdf |
| 11:26:07 | DerPapst | hahaha |
| 11:27:10 | Zagor | DerPapst: actually ie7 doesn't pass acid2 |
| 11:27:25 | pondlife | It certainly doesn't here! |
| 11:27:36 | DerPapst | Zagor: the updated version of IE7 claims to pass ot. |
| 11:27:46 | DerPapst | *it |
| 11:27:53 | pondlife | I get http://www.notmart.org/images/2_ie7-acid2.jpg |
| 11:27:56 | DerPapst | but whatever :-) |
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| 11:28:21 | DerPapst | hehe.. the bloddy smiely |
| 11:28:49 | pondlife | It bled to death, and an OT death at that... |
| 11:29:05 | DerPapst | *bloody even |
| 11:30:14 | pondlife | Zagor: The menu's good now. But no favicon on the home page still |
| 11:30:56 | Zagor | well the file is there and the html refers to it. there's not much more I can do. |
| 11:31:17 | * | gevaerts thinks we should have an acid2-based theme |
| 11:31:21 | pondlife | No biggie, just thought you'd like to know |
| 11:31:23 | pondlife | hehe |
| 11:31:25 | Zagor | gevaerts: hehe |
| 11:31:32 | pondlife | Zagor: Thanks |
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| 11:37:06 | pondlife | Now just need the icon menus on the forum |
| 11:37:40 | Bagderr | we need to generate a template on the site for others to use easily |
| 11:37:55 | Bagderr | like the forums |
| 11:38:30 | Llorean | Yes, please. |
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| 11:38:48 | Llorean | usually I just view source on the main page, and copy and paste the menu table when things change. |
| 11:39:03 | pondlife | Is there anywhere else? rockbox-themes needs a different menu... |
| 11:39:19 | Bagderr | I guess build.rockbox.org could use it too |
| 11:39:33 | Bagderr | svn.rockbox.org ? |
| 11:39:49 | pondlife | It appears to be ok on build.rockbox.org anyway |
| 11:40:08 | Bagderr | yeah, it sucks it directly from the site's directory |
| 11:40:17 | Bagderr | since they're on the same machine right now |
| 11:40:40 | pondlife | I assume build and svn have both got access to the source now :) |
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| 12:01:08 | JdGordon | DerPapst: that will be possible, but its not yet |
| 12:01:17 | JdGordon | you could do it easily with a custom build now though |
| 12:02:15 | * | JdGordon shows up late.... whats this talk about us being able to kill the www with a bad commit? |
| 12:05:38 | * | petur thinks JdGordon should not be allowed near the WWW. He's start putting iframes everywhere :p |
| 12:05:55 | petur | *he'd |
| 12:06:01 | JdGordon | haha |
| 12:06:08 | JdGordon | na, I hate web development |
| 12:06:13 | Bagderr | JdGordon: well, you can fix the www with a good commit... |
| 12:06:45 | JdGordon | has anything happened with trying to get forums onto your server? |
| 12:07:01 | Bagderr | no, we're not trying to do that |
| 12:07:18 | petur | I thought we didn't what that bandwidth.... |
| 12:07:30 | aliask | Zagor: It seems that on the daily.shtml the revision number isn't being set, so the revision number in "latest (r1234)" doesn't get shown |
| 12:10:38 | JdGordon | anyone mind if I put rec/radio screen rewrites on as gSoC? |
| 12:10:40 | DerPapst | JdGordon: thanks... |
| 12:10:48 | JdGordon | as a GSoC project even |
| 12:11:49 | DerPapst | now i have to figure out how to. Does FS #8457 do something similar already? |
| 12:12:08 | petur | JdGordon: good idea |
| 12:12:20 | JdGordon | very simple... either change the defaults in viewport.c or in gui/list.c |
| 12:12:44 | * | petur has a strong opinion on the rec screen however... |
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| 12:12:48 | DerPapst | but that changes all list... |
| 12:15:08 | JdGordon | yes |
| 12:15:34 | JdGordon | petur: rec screen is definatly one we will have trouble making everyone happy with |
| 12:16:01 | DerPapst | bummer... i only want to change the position of one single list. |
| 12:16:15 | JdGordon | but... isnt there an idea floating around to have a scrollable list or something on half the screen and something else on the other half? |
| 12:17:06 | petur | JdGordon: yes, that is my idea ;) |
| 12:17:32 | petur | top of screen has status data and peakmeters, bottom part a scrollable list with some settings |
| 12:17:43 | JdGordon | not inline settings? |
| 12:18:48 | petur | no normal settings, as I want to be able to set L+G gain together but also individually tweak L and R |
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| 12:23:03 | linuxstb | Won't that upset people? (making them harder to access) |
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| 12:23:26 | petur | why? |
| 12:23:52 | petur | did you see how recording screen gain changes work now? |
| 12:24:36 | linuxstb | Yes. IIUC, you're suggesting they become standard list settings? |
| 12:25:20 | petur | no, I wanted to say that the rec screen settings should not become a plain normal settings list like we have now for other stuff |
| 12:25:36 | petur | ie rec screen settings = special list |
| 12:26:14 | JdGordon | amiconn: polease have a look at FS #8721.. its BB in viewports.. but I've hit a wall and need input... |
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| 12:26:39 | JdGordon | :D |
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| 12:27:19 | * | JdGordon was gonna say before petur ran off that he is happy to get the screen working in 2 spots if someone else does the work of populating the list... |
| 12:28:37 | * | gevaerts sends petur a Data Abort |
| 12:28:49 | * | petur eats it too |
| 12:29:04 | * | LinusN prepares for an overflow |
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| 12:30:24 | Zagor | aliask: yes I saw that. looking into it. |
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| 12:55:46 | * | pondlife decides to eat |
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| 13:02:59 | gevaerts | Are there ipod 5G mainboard pictures on the wiki somewhere ? I'm thinking of opening mine tonight to see if I can get some voltage measurements, but I'd like to know what I'm looking for first |
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| 13:04:13 | DerPapst | ifixit.com has some instuctions how to open the 5G |
| 13:04:24 | DerPapst | but not high res |
| 13:05:24 | DerPapst | there are 2 more links of PCBs http://ipodlinux.org/Generations#Fifth_Generation_.285G.29_.2F_Fifth_Generation_Enhanced_.285.5G.29 |
| 13:07:58 | gevaerts | Thanks. Now I just need to find where I need to measure. |
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| 13:09:51 | DerPapst | You mean a pinout of the dock connector? |
| 13:10:11 | DerPapst | http://ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector |
| 13:11:53 | gevaerts | DerPapst: no. I want to check amiconn's suggestion that there might be a wrong voltage somewhere for usb to work properly. |
| 13:13:24 | DerPapst | i though you want to mesure on the usb data pins of on the dock connector. ;-) |
| 13:14:48 | JdGordon | petur: linuxstb: viewports + recscreen is sweet :D |
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| 13:15:14 | petur | heh |
| 13:15:26 | * | gevaerts hopes he won't get too many sparks |
| 13:15:30 | JdGordon | just needs someone to stick the relevant info o the screen |
| 13:15:59 | JdGordon | it should be statusbar, 3 lines, peakmeters then the list on all targets? |
| 13:16:09 | petur | no time at all.... |
| 13:16:26 | petur | JdGordon: I think so, yes |
| 13:17:01 | JdGordon | I think it will actually be simpler than I thought so i might just do it |
| 13:17:16 | JdGordon | how do you want the settings to work though? |
| 13:17:31 | * | petur reminds himself not to update his h380 before going to the concert next week |
| 13:17:33 | amiconn | gevaerts: Measure the various output voltages of the PCF50605 |
| 13:17:58 | * | JdGordon reminds self to make sure he has a few gig free for a recording tomorow night |
| 13:18:04 | amiconn | (might be a 50607 in the G5.5) |
| 13:19:15 | gevaerts | It's a 5G. I'm downloading datasheets now |
| 13:21:14 | * | gevaerts will try first while the ipod is turned off, to see if it's actually possible to only touch one single pin reliably |
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| 13:26:20 | amiconn | gevaerts: As the pcf is the pmu, it's input power pins are always powered. So be careful even when the ipod is off |
| 13:31:14 | gevaerts | Would it help to disconnect the battery first ? |
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| 13:40:42 | gevaerts | amiconn: which pins do I need ? I'm guessing the various *VDD pins |
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| 13:42:20 | * | Bagder did a convenience script for upgrading a target with a rockbox.zip, keeping the current config and making a backup of the previous install: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/update-rockbox.txt |
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| 13:44:32 | linuxstb | Bagder: What about all the extra stuff that may be in .rockbox? (themes, fonts, plugin .cfg files, doom, pacbox, .....) |
| 13:44:52 | Bagder | yeah, it could be extended to copy those files too |
| 13:45:04 | Bagder | I don't personally care much about them |
| 13:45:09 | linuxstb | nvram.bin ? |
| 13:45:39 | Bagder | that I should copy |
| 13:46:10 | * | gevaerts usually either just copies the rockbox.whatever binary, or has to reformat anyway |
| 13:46:16 | JdGordon | and .playlist_control |
| 13:46:58 | linuxstb | Bagder: You could maybe keep a list of the files installed by the previous run of your script, and then only delete those files. |
| 13:47:10 | pondlife | Hmm, rockbox.zip doesn't contain config info... safer just to not delete? |
| 13:47:29 | Bagder | linuxstb: it doesn't delete, it just renames the old .rockbox to .rockbox-<version> |
| 13:47:42 | Bagder | for easy roll-back |
| 13:47:56 | linuxstb | Bagder: OK, then only move those files to .rockbox-version |
| 13:48:19 | pondlife | I'd only want to be specific about files if I was deleting stuff to get a tiny bit of space back, so ignore me :) |
| 13:48:24 | Bagder | yes, I should make it check for fonts, configs etc and move them |
| 13:48:59 | pondlife | OK, why not just copy .rockbox to .rockbox-<version>, then unzip into .rockbox |
| 13:49:15 | pondlife | That will only overwrite included stuff/themes |
| 13:49:17 | Bagder | that's of course possible |
| 13:49:22 | pondlife | Simpler too |
| 13:49:27 | Bagder | but then everything will always live on |
| 13:50:02 | pondlife | Indeed, but you might not know what new plugins/settings will be added in the future. |
| 13:50:38 | Bagder | right, but I'm not aiming for perfection here, just slightly more convenience than doing it manually |
| 13:50:46 | * | pondlife thinks we need user data separation to solve this, and blinks. |
| 13:51:04 | Bagder | I would like to see that |
| 13:51:25 | pondlife | Me too |
| 13:51:39 | pondlife | In a non-hidden, but standard directory |
| 13:51:45 | Bagder | yeps |
| 13:51:53 | pondlife | i.e. /(rockbox data) |
| 13:52:01 | amiconn | gevaerts: I thinnk D1VDD..D3VDD, IOVDD, LPVDD, DCUDFB and DCDFB are the interesting ones |
| 13:52:40 | gevaerts | OK. I hope I'll be able to get something meaningful |
| 13:53:00 | * | gevaerts especially hopes that the smoke doesn't get out |
| 13:53:10 | * | petur seconds pondlife's idea |
| 13:53:26 | amiconn | Ideally, those should be measured with the OF in normal mode, in USB mode, and rockbox |
| 13:53:43 | pondlife | gevaerts: I think you could buy some new smoke with the Rockbox fund. |
| 13:53:52 | pondlife | You've probably earnt it. |
| 13:54:06 | * | Bagder agrees |
| 13:54:39 | gevaerts | Thanks, but it's still better not to need it I guess |
| 13:54:48 | pondlife | petur: I'm still recovering from a Vista-isation job, separating data and programs in an ancient app, so I won't volunteer for this one. |
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| 13:57:04 | * | gevaerts likes the unix way. The binaries in a user visible directory, and the configuration and user data in .rockbox |
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| 13:58:39 | JdGordon | there is a task to split the userdata out of .rockbox on flysrapyh |
| 13:58:48 | J | personally I'd prefer them both the be hidden :) |
| 13:59:08 | * | amiconn would sevely dislike an additional, visible directory |
| 13:59:13 | * | pondlife too |
| 13:59:27 | amiconn | I don't see a problem with the current directory layout either |
| 13:59:38 | JdGordon | we shuold stickk all the user data into a single binary file! |
| 13:59:40 | amiconn | User settings aren't overwritten |
| 13:59:46 | * | petur has all directories visible and hates hidden stuff |
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| 14:00:06 | * | pondlife too, hence the stupidity of his last comment |
| 14:00:28 | * | petur hopes JdGordon was joking |
| 14:00:34 | pondlife | I like the idea of being able to copy my own settings from one DAP to another, or DAP to sim. |
| 14:00:45 | mikeage | JdGordon... you mean we'll need regedit for rockbox? ;) |
| 14:01:07 | amiconn | pondlife: I fail to see what this has to do with directory layout |
| 14:01:15 | pondlife | Not much |
| 14:01:30 | amiconn | Apart from that, copying setting between different targets doesn't make much sense |
| 14:01:46 | amiconn | target <-> sim might be useful, but mostly for developers |
| 14:01:51 | pondlife | Maybe not display settings, but it does for all others |
| 14:01:57 | pondlife | Most others |
| 14:02:09 | pondlife | target/sim was what I meant really |
| 14:02:27 | amiconn | s/most others/a few others/ , imho |
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| 14:14:03 | JdGordon | rasher, did you have some amazing xml idea? care to share!? |
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| 14:14:50 | * | Bagder holds his hands against his ears and sings while slowing walking away... |
| 14:15:34 | * | amiconn thinks xml and amazing shouldn't be used in the same sentence |
| 14:15:52 | pondlife | XML is an amazing waste of time. |
| 14:16:15 | petur | resources too |
| 14:16:43 | pondlife | It's amazing people can consider new development (such as XML) when there are so many bugs outstanding. |
| 14:16:48 | * | LambdaCalculus37 will pistol-whip the next person who praises XML |
| 14:18:12 | Zagor | pondlife: "you are only making rubbish!" |
| 14:19:21 | * | pondlife searches for a GoldenQuote, but finds only on 17/6/04 - "11.51.22 # <Zagor> "you are only making rubbish"" |
| 14:19:31 | * | gevaerts thinks it's amazing to see how many people seem to like xml |
| 14:19:52 | pondlife | It might have its place. But not here. |
| 14:20:20 | Zagor | pondlife: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-09/0586.shtml |
| 14:20:52 | pondlife | Yes, but that's "implementing rubbish" |
| 14:21:02 | pondlife | With XML we're only at the design stage |
| 14:21:06 | pondlife | Thank goodness. |
| 14:21:07 | Zagor | hehe |
| 14:22:03 | pondlife | "You all did a really GREAT job. The Archos firmware won't be used any more over here, that's for sure!" |
| 14:22:16 | * | pondlife enjoys the entire thread |
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| 14:28:43 | * | gevaerts proposes to use gettext |
| 14:30:53 | Zagor | haha |
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| 14:36:10 | DerPapst | regarding the seperate user stuff... how about /.rockbox/user/[fonts|themes|wps|config.cfg|...]? |
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| 14:38:36 | low_light | Is anyone using cygwin? does svnversion take a ridiculously long time. |
| 14:39:02 | petur | iirc, it does |
| 14:39:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | It has taken a long time for me as well. |
| 14:39:38 | low_light | I replaced it with 'svn info' and some greps and it's almost instantaneous |
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| 14:41:28 | low_light | ok, maybe I'll put the patch on the tracker...I don't trust my shell scripting skills |
| 14:41:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Yes, Cygwin can be painfully slow sometimes. |
| 14:42:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | Compiling builds was ridiculously long when I used Cygwin. |
| 14:42:15 | amiconn | svnversion.sh takes ~5 sec here. Not exactly fast, but I wouldn't call it ridiculously slow either |
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| 14:42:52 | * | amiconn would like to see a buildzip.pl that does as much as possible directly within perl, and doesn't spawn hundreds of processes |
| 14:43:22 | stripwax | svnversion takes over 40 seconds for me (still counting) |
| 14:43:29 | low_light | for me svnversion take > 1min. |
| 14:43:52 | low_light | and it seems to run it several times in one build |
| 14:44:04 | low_light | compilation is actually pretty fast otherwise |
| 14:44:24 | Zagor | it takes 1.43 seconds here :) |
| 14:44:31 | stripwax | 2 minutes - still counting.. |
| 14:44:39 | stripwax | 2 minutes and 15 seconds |
| 14:44:50 | low_light | Zagor: on cygwin? |
| 14:44:51 | stripwax | and all it does is spit out "16625M" ? pah! |
| 14:44:55 | Zagor | low_light: no :) |
| 14:45:14 | stripwax | agree w/ low_light re "svn info" - that's near instantaneous |
| 14:45:21 | amiconn | The 5 sec here are on cygwin |
| 14:45:46 | * | stripwax wonders if svnversion is quicker on a second call |
| 14:46:00 | stripwax | yep. about 8 seconds |
| 14:46:04 | amiconn | Really not much compared to a full-rebuild time of ~10 min, and a 'make zip' time of ~3 min |
| 14:46:33 | Zagor | has it ever been determined why cygwin is so slow? |
| 14:46:33 | amiconn | (that's swcodec) |
| 14:46:35 | low_light | Does svnversion need to connect to svn.rockbox.org? |
| 14:47:33 | amiconn | Zagor: Starting processes is costly. That's why this built-in 'info' in make 3.81 helps a lot, and why a pure perl buildzip-pl would help a lot too |
| 14:48:15 | low_light | stripwax: in svnversion.sh, I replaced the call to svnversion with: svn info "$@" | grep "Revision" | grep -o [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9] |
| 14:48:31 | amiconn | It's also the reason why voice.pl passes commands for executing to sapi_voice.vbs (running natively under cscript.exe" instead of executing them from within cygwin perl |
| 14:50:36 | Zagor | is forking _that_ slow on windows? |
| 14:51:18 | petur | I'd say cygwin, not windows |
| 14:51:26 | stripwax | low_light - right but svnversion reports 16625M (for me), and svn info just reports the repository version of 16625... |
| 14:51:32 | stripwax | unless thaht's all the build needs... |
| 14:52:23 | low_light | yeah, I don't know what the 'M' means |
| 14:52:29 | stripwax | modified |
| 14:52:34 | petur | 'M'odified |
| 14:54:22 | amiconn | Zagor: In windows - no. In cygwin - yes |
| 14:54:56 | Zagor | ok |
| 14:55:28 | amiconn | stripwax, low_light: svnversion outputs both the version and the date, e.g. r16624M-080311 |
| 14:56:28 | low_light | thats from 'svnversion.sh', 'svnversion' just gets the revision |
| 14:56:35 | stripwax | amiconn - hm, not for me it doesn't |
| 14:56:57 | PinGuiN_-_XY | Hay guys, I want to port Rockbox to the Philips GoGear SA3125 but need a little help because it's my first touch with firmware modification... I really appriciate If anyone is available and not with hands full of work/willing to help me |
| 14:58:17 | * | low_light has some broken Philips SA9200's coming his way |
| 14:58:22 | amiconn | Yes I mean svnversion.sh |
| 14:58:29 | low_light | another PP5024 port |
| 14:58:49 | low_light | hopefully I can construct a working unit |
| 14:58:58 | PinGuiN_-_XY | works the SA9200 the same way as the SA3125? |
| 14:59:21 | low_light | doubt it |
| 14:59:44 | low_light | you'd have to open up a SA3125 & see what's inside |
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| 15:00:11 | cojy | hi guys |
| 15:01:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Then you should post your findings in the wiki, along with scans of the internals, if possible. |
| 15:01:45 | PinGuiN_-_XY | thats not the problem... I have one right infront of me^^ |
| 15:01:52 | PinGuiN_-_XY | okay |
| 15:01:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | Are you willing to open it? |
| 15:02:04 | cojy | has anybody managed to develope a new firmware for creative vision m? |
| 15:02:12 | PinGuiN_-_XY | can I destroy something very easy? |
| 15:02:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | cojy: Still work in progress. |
| 15:02:39 | PinGuiN_-_XY | something I have to care for? |
| 15:03:06 | PinGuiN_-_XY | loaded transistors or smthing like that? |
| 15:03:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Well, you certainly don't want to scrape anything up on the board. |
| 15:03:27 | cojy | k..hope you'll do it, 'cause creative has forgotten about this player ;) goodluck |
| 15:03:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | cojy: Me!? Why me!? |
| 15:03:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'm not working on it! |
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| 15:03:58 | cojy | i mean all of you.. |
| 15:04:16 | cojy | the rockbox team if you like it :P |
| 15:04:28 | morejoy | what's up here? |
| 15:05:26 | morejoy | what kind of rock is the topic here? |
| 15:05:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | morejoy: Rockbox. |
| 15:05:46 | * | LambdaCalculus37 points to the channel name and topic |
| 15:05:48 | morejoy | hello! |
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| 15:06:24 | morejoy | go to the site then, Lamb! |
| 15:06:43 | petur | morejoy: please stop it |
| 15:07:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | morejoy: This is not a social channel. It's a developer discussion channel. |
| 15:07:42 | morejoy | then the mistake is mine. |
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| 15:17:26 | SSnake | mmm really strange (probably it's normal dunno..) behaviour in other plugins playback menus... |
| 15:18:00 | SSnake | if u have a playlist running and load sokoban all is ok |
| 15:18:07 | stripwax | What is the behaviour? |
| 15:18:20 | SSnake | then enter playback menu |
| 15:18:52 | SSnake | STOP playing and you notice you cant' resume playback. The playlist will become empty |
| 15:19:02 | SSnake | is it normal? |
| 15:19:42 | stripwax | hm, it should work identically to stopping from wps |
| 15:20:12 | SSnake | can you confirm this behaviuor? |
| 15:21:01 | stripwax | SSnake it works fine for me: "STOP" from audio menu in sokoban stops playback. If I exit sokoban, then pressing PLAY resumes my playlist |
| 15:21:30 | stripwax | Do you have any custom patches in your build? |
| 15:21:41 | SSnake | no no wait. STOP playing, then try play/pause from inside that same playback menu |
| 15:21:59 | * | stripwax tries |
| 15:22:02 | SSnake | :> |
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| 15:22:59 | stripwax | ooh. yes, I do see that. |
| 15:23:08 | SSnake | oooh finally :> |
| 15:23:17 | stripwax | Guess that's a bug in the shared audio menu |
| 15:24:43 | SSnake | honestly i don't know....but i can't understand why any rb->do_menu() call i make in my plugin stops playback |
| 15:25:16 | SSnake | dunno if it's related to some APIs bug or my own code |
| 15:27:45 | SSnake | mmm too bad JdGordon is sleeping... |
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| 15:28:56 | SSnake | i'll be back in some hours .... please keep me updated if u discover something weird thanks |
| 15:29:01 | BoD[] | Hello, World! |
| 15:30:25 | BoD[] | Hey... I see that there are works underway in the firmware. Is it necessary (or advisable) to install a recent version of the firmare? (I own an ipod video 60G) |
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| 15:31:58 | BoD[] | and by that, I meant, the bootloader :) sorry I was confused |
| 15:32:32 | linuxstb | SSnake: Does your game use the original graphics and sounds (the ones preventing the xrick author from releasing his code under the GPL)? |
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| 15:39:56 | SSnake | @linuxstb: unfortunately yes...at this stage sound files will be downloaded and used accordingly (like wads in doom) but graphics are hard coded |
| 15:40:35 | SSnake | i've included the same legal reported in the xrick site inside the game help menu |
| 15:41:31 | SSnake | and the author said it was ok to port it to Rockbox (from his point of view of course....maybe CORE is not so happy) |
| 15:41:46 | linuxstb | :( Then I don't think we'll be able to include it with Rockbox... |
| 15:42:05 | SSnake | but in all this years CORE never asked to delete xrick |
| 15:42:24 | SSnake | maybe we can insert it in waiting for CORE to answer to xrick author |
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| 15:43:31 | SSnake | all the legal stuff is reported in sources and at runtime in the help menu |
| 15:43:49 | SSnake | ...c u later have to go now |
| 15:44:00 | linuxstb | I don't think that's a good idea - we shouldn't knowingly infringe copyrights on the basis that the copyright holder isn't contactable. |
| 15:44:41 | * | gevaerts agrees with linuxstb |
| 15:44:45 | linuxstb | And we've had legal problems with games in Rockbox before |
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| 15:47:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | I think the best way is to simply offer the game as an "unofficial" plugin. |
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| 15:48:17 | stripwax | Is the game source and concept perfectly legit (is it just the media that is questionable)? |
| 15:48:23 | mikeage | if it's a potential copyright problem, do you want to even have it in the tracker? |
| 15:48:40 | linuxstb | mikeage: No. If it's not suitable for Rockbox, it shouldn't be on the tracker. |
| 15:49:03 | mikeage | right.... I was responding to LambaCalculus, not proposing an alternative |
| 15:49:36 | gevaerts | I guess the xrick author might be willing to host it |
| 15:49:41 | linuxstb | stripwax: I don't think you can (C) game concept - the problems we've had (e.g. jewels/tetris) have been trademarks and copyrights of images |
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| 15:51:35 | stripwax | could we (and by we I mean SSnake :) produce new graphics and sound files in that case? |
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| 15:52:33 | linuxstb | stripwax: Yes, that's my understanding (but IANAL...) |
| 15:52:37 | stripwax | oh. maps too. right :( |
| 15:53:10 | * | linuxstb wishes SSnake had chosen a different game... |
| 15:53:30 | gevaerts | And the graphics aren't really easily editable in there. They look like straight ROM dumps |
| 15:54:56 | linuxstb | For a Rockbox port, they should ideally be extracted and stored as external bmps |
| 15:55:02 | stripwax | yep |
| 15:55:22 | linuxstb | Shouldn't be too hard to write a program to do that... |
| 15:57:59 | gevaerts | Maybe it could be made to read the original data files from the dos version or something like that. Then it could be handled like pacman or doom |
| 15:58:46 | linuxstb | That just crossed my mind as well. |
| 15:58:59 | markun | which game is all this talk about? |
| 15:59:10 | linuxstb | A port of xrick - Rick Dangerous clone |
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| 16:00:02 | linuxstb | The program itself seems to be written from scratch (and GPL compatible), but it includes the original bitmaps hardcoded in the .c code |
| 16:00:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Which, in my opinion, is a bad idea. |
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| 17:02:08 | BoD[] | hey does anybody here know the "database" system well? |
| 17:02:42 | scorche|sh | if you have a specific question, it is best to simply ask that first |
| 17:05:05 | BoD[] | yup: I'm trying to modify a bit the "Podcasts, Old and New" example on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DataBase, but I'd like to sort the new podcasts by date, with the most recent ones on top. But if I understand correctly, this is not possible because you can't really use the entryage field for sorting. Am I correct? |
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| 17:12:15 | PinGuiN_-_XY | can I get writing permission for the Twiki so that I can post my results for the GoGear 3125? |
| 17:12:30 | mcuelenaere | what's your wiki name? |
| 17:12:32 | petur | wikiname? |
| 17:12:37 | * | petur backs off |
| 17:12:42 | mcuelenaere | :) |
| 17:13:04 | PinGuiN_-_XY | do I have to register for the wiki seperatly or is it the same name as the forumname? |
| 17:13:12 | scorche|sh | seperate |
| 17:13:20 | GodEater | and you have to use your real name |
| 17:13:25 | PinGuiN_-_XY | okay than w8 aminute |
| 17:13:31 | PinGuiN_-_XY | It'll be pinguinxy |
| 17:13:34 | petur | no |
| 17:13:36 | scorche|sh | no, it wont be |
| 17:13:37 | GodEater | no it won't |
| 17:13:37 | mcuelenaere | no, you have to use your real name |
| 17:13:42 | PinGuiN_-_XY | ah okay |
| 17:13:44 | scorche|sh | :) |
| 17:14:09 | PinGuiN_-_XY | JanSteinke |
| 17:14:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | One moment. |
| 17:14:19 | mcuelenaere | ah ok |
| 17:14:24 | * | gevaerts gets woken up by the sounds of lots of people talking at the same time |
| 17:14:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oh no! The gevaerts is awake! He may be hungry! |
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| 17:15:04 | * | DerPapst hides behind a rock |
| 17:15:12 | gevaerts | Actually I am a bit :) |
| 17:15:13 | mcuelenaere | LambdaCalculus37: you're going to add him, right? |
| 17:15:14 | scorche|sh | > feed gevaerts |
| 17:15:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | PinGuiN_-_XY: Did you register yet? |
| 17:15:18 | mcuelenaere | ok |
| 17:15:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: When he registers, yes. |
| 17:15:42 | PinGuiN_-_XY | no I have to confirm it |
| 17:15:47 | * | LambdaCalculus37 throws gevaerts a steak |
| 17:16:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Say when. |
| 17:16:05 | petur | make that 0xdeadbeef |
| 17:16:23 | GodEater | I'd prefer at least 1xdeadbeef |
| 17:16:33 | petur | lol |
| 17:16:33 | GodEater | I'm not very good at imagining a steak |
| 17:16:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: It's Grade A 1xdeadbeef I threw. :) |
| 17:16:51 | PinGuiN_-_XY | sop... ready |
| 17:16:53 | * | gevaerts jumps to 0xdeadbeef, and crashes with an illegal instruction |
| 17:16:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | Steak is already DEADBEEF. :) |
| 17:18:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | PinGuiN_-_XY: Done. |
| 17:18:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Welcome to Rockbox! |
| 17:18:44 | PinGuiN_-_XY | thanx a lot |
| 17:19:02 | PinGuiN_-_XY | I hope for a nice teamwork :-) |
| 17:19:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | The best way to get a port done is to find GoGear 3100 owners who are interested in seeing Rockbox on their devices. |
| 17:20:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | And of course, expect to get your hands dirty, too. |
| 17:20:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | Because most of the hard work will usually come from those who own it. |
| 17:21:34 | PinGuiN_-_XY | I think It'll be hard to find people how want that^^ |
| 17:21:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | No, not really. |
| 17:22:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ask at a forum that specializes in Philips DAPs. |
| 17:22:19 | PinGuiN_-_XY | where do I have to look for those who want rockbox running on gogear |
| 17:22:33 | * | LambdaCalculus37 points to previous message |
| 17:22:33 | PinGuiN_-_XY | would be an Idea |
| 17:23:30 | low_light | and beg Sigmatel for datasheets :-) |
| 17:23:53 | * | amiconn is somewhat puzzled |
| 17:24:21 | amiconn | Philips don't use their own chips for their daps? |
| 17:24:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | PinGuiN_-_XY: I took the liberty of starting a skelton wiki page for you: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PhilipsGoGear3100Port |
| 17:24:35 | PinGuiN_-_XY | okay, than I have anough work for my easter break^^ *haha* |
| 17:24:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: The GoGear 3100 series are SigmaTel-based. |
| 17:25:18 | low_light | and the philips SA9200 is pp5024 |
| 17:25:29 | toffe82 | I ordered the connectors for the Gigabeat, I will give the final price at the end of the week (didn't have time to go to the post ofice :) ) |
| 17:25:34 | amiconn | Yes, and some other series is PP based. I would expect Philips to use their PNX own chips... |
| 17:25:47 | markun | toffe82: did you get my email? |
| 17:25:51 | toffe82 | yes |
| 17:25:57 | amiconn | swap(PNX, own); |
| 17:26:15 | * | gevaerts guesses that toffe82 got lots of mails |
| 17:26:29 | markun | toffe82: howmany did you order? |
| 17:26:29 | toffe82 | not so much ;) |
| 17:26:31 | scorche|sh | ah..i need to email him myself |
| 17:26:36 | scorche|sh | ack |
| 17:26:53 | * | scorche|sh wasnt expecting an order so soon |
| 17:27:16 | low_light | amiconn: even samsung doesn't always use their own chips |
| 17:27:29 | toffe82 | I order 51 , for the discount I needed more than 50 |
| 17:27:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | PinGuiN_-_XY: Do you have a good scanner? Scanning the mainboard at a high resolution would be very useful indeed. |
| 17:27:45 | scorche|sh | toffe82: alright...so you have some extras? ;) |
| 17:28:39 | toffe82 | yes |
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| 17:31:24 | PinGuiN_-_XY | LambdaCalculus37: yes |
| 17:32:08 | PinGuiN_-_XY | LambdaCalculus37: at first I have to get used to the Wiki :-D than I will make a new scan of the board |
| 17:33:32 | toffe82 | markun: I come back to my ohilips sa9200, is there a way to decode the firmware, knowing some strings that should be in the file ? |
| 17:33:46 | toffe82 | philips ^^ |
| 17:33:56 | linuxstb | Is it a .mi4 file? |
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| 17:34:20 | markun | toffe82: I don't know, but it could be possible to run unencrypted code |
| 17:34:39 | markun | with the trick mentioned in Bagder's mi4 page |
| 17:35:21 | toffe82 | what trick, I have to check |
| 17:35:38 | low_light | toffe82: I have some broken sa9200's coming my way, hopefully I can piece together a working one |
| 17:35:51 | markun | setting the length of the unencrypted header to the filesize |
| 17:36:25 | toffe82 | low_light: it is a nice player |
| 17:39:41 | * | amiconn wonders what's the deal with those nasty touch controls |
| 17:40:51 | markun | amiconn: usually when I see a new dap I can't help thinking "what would amiconn dislike about this one" :) |
| 17:41:04 | markun | usually buttons which are not on the front |
| 17:41:16 | GodEater | markun: isn't a shorter list "what *would* amiconn like about it?" :@) |
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| 17:42:16 | low_light | toffe82: have you found a recovery mode? |
| 17:43:07 | toffe82 | not yet |
| 17:44:36 | toffe82 | there is a folder system showing up but you cannot write to it, or I didn't find, I think I saw a forum about this but cannot find it again |
| 17:46:40 | toffe82 | there is a repair program that copy some files to this partition when you run it and after the player erase them |
| 17:49:46 | low_light | toffe82: can you dd /dev/sda (or whatever) and search for the bootloader? |
| 17:51:06 | toffe82 | I didn't try with linux |
| 17:51:21 | low_light | if it's like the c200 and e200, look for "PRIMARY_BOOTLOADER" |
| 17:51:24 | toffe82 | I don't have a linux box, just virtual machine |
| 17:51:40 | toffe82 | I will see tonight what I can do |
| 17:51:53 | SSnake | here i am...just read what linuxstb wrote... |
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| 17:53:19 | SSnake | ...it would be possible to extract all data infos...but it takes some time of course |
| 17:53:31 | toffe82 | low_light: do I need something special on linux or I can mount it direct (it is a mtp device) ? |
| 17:53:51 | SSnake | they are c hardcoded hex values....taken by reverse eng the original game |
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| 17:55:34 | SSnake | maybe I (or others) will write some function to load bitmap data... |
| 17:55:53 | gevaerts | SSnake: woult it be hard to change xrick to read those values from the original data files instead of having them in the code ? |
| 17:56:05 | SSnake | now my primary goal is to make it work completely under my h300 :P |
| 17:56:25 | low_light | toffe82: that might be a problem (mtp). I don't know how it will show up under linux. |
| 17:56:31 | SSnake | mmm honestly i thing it would not require so much time to code an appropriate function... |
| 17:57:06 | SSnake | it's just a bunch of unsignedchar data... |
| 17:57:11 | markun | low_light: there are tools. I used gphoto during the early days of the Gigabeat port |
| 17:57:31 | gevaerts | SSnake: that way, all the code could be fully GPL, and you just have to provide instructions on what extra files are needed from the original game (like doom and pacman do it). |
| 17:57:49 | SSnake | yes of course it would be really ok this way i know... |
| 17:58:26 | SSnake | later on i'll work on it. Now i'm working on menu code and sound |
| 17:59:00 | linuxstb | Sounds like something the xrick author should do (or at least, these changes should be back-ported to xrick), and he could continue distributing the data separately. He (the xrick author) should also explicitly code his program under the GPL - currently there is no license, apart from a brief comment in the README saying "in the spirit of the GPL"... |
| 17:59:03 | SSnake | all graphics/controls/cheat sistem is done. |
| 17:59:21 | markun | toffe82: ah, it's supported by libmtp at least: http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=compatibility |
| 17:59:44 | SSnake | mmm yes i had the same idea. |
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| 18:00:27 | linuxstb | SSnake: Why didn't you choose a game without legal issues? ;) |
| 18:01:10 | SSnake | honestly because i really loved that game. It will be my thesis at mt laurea degree in may. |
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| 18:01:48 | SSnake | I wanted to work on something i loved: games, music, Rockbox, Rick dangerous |
| 18:01:59 | SSnake | *i love |
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| 18:02:28 | RR81 | Hello... |
| 18:03:04 | markun | hi RR81 |
| 18:03:09 | SSnake | i've also another idea in mind....maybe for a future SoC project: porting REminiscence to rockbox... |
| 18:03:52 | SSnake | REminiscence = Flash Back engine |
| 18:04:22 | markun | SSnake: I have a copy of (the now removed) "raw project" code: recreation of the Another World engine |
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| 18:05:05 | SSnake | mmmm interesting, really interesting....but dunno....now the author re released the game with improved graphics.... |
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| 18:05:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | SSnake: This? http://cyxdown.free.fr/reminiscence/ |
| 18:05:33 | SSnake | yes |
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| 18:05:59 | SSnake | it's written in C++ ... so memory handling will be a pain i think |
| 18:07:02 | RR81 | I hope someone here can help me, I want to know we I buy a ipod dock with speakers, does it boot rockbox or the original OS on my Ipod? and would I be able to play on the ipod dock with speakers? Hope you understand and can help me... |
| 18:07:46 | SSnake | well so...does anyone checked the strange behaviour i reported some hours ago? |
| 18:09:16 | markun | RR81: is it in this list? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories |
| 18:09:41 | markun | linusN was working on better support for accessories |
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| 18:14:06 | RR81 | No, I couldn't find it... :( |
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| 18:15:17 | markun | RR81: you can use it with the ipod firmware anyway and hope that it is (or will be) support by rocbox |
| 18:16:07 | dionoea | Docks usually use the line out so it should work. You wouldn't have any of the fancy controls though. |
| 18:18:29 | markun | but LinusN's code has support for the basic remote, so that's at least a good start |
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| 18:21:32 | dionoea | markun: indeed. Depends if the dock requires the ipod to have tx capabilities too or not (like the ipod remote control for example) |
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| 18:21:42 | dionoea | Since LinusN's code doesn't implement that yet |
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| 18:22:10 | markun | it doesn't? |
| 18:22:27 | dionoea | he only managed to get rx to work on the serial port |
| 18:22:31 | markun | aha |
| 18:22:35 | dionoea | unless i missed some of the newer developements |
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| 18:57:57 | * | gevaerts looks at the pins on the CF50607 in his ipod, and then at his multimeter probes... This won't be easy |
| 18:58:00 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: Adding the TEA5767 datasheet was unnecessary. That's a well-known component, as several rockbox targets have that tuner, and the datasheet is in the wiki for quite some time as well |
| 18:58:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Ahh, didn't know. Will remove. |
| 18:58:43 | amiconn | gevaerts: Yeah, 0.5 mm pin spacing... It might be easier to solder thin wires and use those for measurement |
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| 18:59:49 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: The first was the Ondio FM. Iriver H1x0 and H300 have that chip, and the X5 uses a tuner module from D&A that obviously contains that chip (command set was RE'd and is identical to TEA5767 |
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| 19:00:36 | amiconn | LambdaCalculus37: But there must be a type on that page: is it STMP3504 or STMP3054 ? |
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| 19:01:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: It's STMP3504. |
| 19:01:27 | * | LambdaCalculus37 fixes |
| 19:02:12 | gevaerts | I disconnected the battery, so I should be able to practice safely |
| 19:02:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay, now it's correct. |
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| 19:03:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | Thanks for pointing out those two errors, amiconn. |
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| 19:05:39 | amiconn | Afaik, the STMP35xx is a show-stopper regarding a rockbox port |
| 19:09:42 | amiconn | (unless someone feels like making an open source toolchain for 56K dsp) |
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| 19:10:36 | amiconn | Same chipset is used in the 1st Gen Shuffle |
| 19:11:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: Yep... STMP3550 in the 1st Gen Shuffle. |
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| 19:25:35 | * | LambdaCalculus37 makes a few small fixes on the wiki |
| 19:27:35 | advcomp2019 | amiconn, did you know that sigmatel was bought by freescale |
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| 19:35:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | advcomp2019: Yes, per Wikipedia: "On February 4, 2008, Freescale Semiconductor announced that it had entered into a definitive agreement to acquire SigmaTel for $110 million.[2] The agreement is expected to close in the second quarter of 2008." |
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| 19:46:51 | scorche|sh | \o/ |
| 19:47:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | scorche|sh: I see you're happy! :) |
| 19:48:47 | bluebrother | what kind of success did you have? |
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| 19:59:40 | * | gevaerts gets out his old Leitz stereo microscope, and can now touch individual pins on the chip reliably with a needle |
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| 20:07:27 | SSnake | YAH! FINALLY I managed it to work! Many many thanks to the people who suggested me to use gdb |
| 20:07:52 | cmo | In the last week my file database is flooded with duplicate files. I know they're not really on my player, so how do I clear them? Ex. If I go to play one album, it shows each track 10x |
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| 20:08:16 | borkbork | hullo |
| 20:08:28 | borkbork | hello |
| 20:08:36 | PinGuiN_-_XY | hi |
| 20:08:56 | SSnake | simply put: the buttun queue had the last button pressed so all menu handling used it |
| 20:09:41 | bluebrother | SSnake: isn't gdb a nice thing? ;-) |
| 20:09:43 | SSnake | however i think that all code inside menu.c should really clear the queue before using any input or (better) save the state of the last button pressed |
| 20:10:03 | SSnake | yeah absolutely the best time spent today was learning gdb |
| 20:10:38 | borkbork | something seems to be wrong with codecs on latest nightly build for iriver 140 |
| 20:11:23 | borkbork | it was making a mess until i copied old codecs over new ones, now everything seems to be working smoothly |
| 20:11:23 | SSnake | if some develpers wants to check....the clear queue should be put inside action.c |
| 20:11:31 | bluebrother | borkbork: have you tried a current build? |
| 20:11:33 | borkbork | just thought somebody should know :) |
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| 20:12:36 | SSnake | inside function get_action_worker it should be some sort of button_clear_queue or some button_status saving |
| 20:12:48 | borkbork | yeah |
| 20:12:55 | borkbork | i take that back, its totally not working again |
| 20:13:18 | borkbork | now i get illinst at 00000004 |
| 20:13:35 | borkbork | and download link for old daily builds doesnt seem to be working |
| 20:13:47 | borkbork | (and this chat is lagging like 30+ seconds from type to appear) |
| 20:13:49 | borkbork | oh, what to do? |
| 20:13:53 | bluebrother | with old codecs copies over or with a current build? |
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| 20:14:16 | bluebrother | well, the web client is ... |
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| 20:15:25 | scorche|sh | ...is not *that* bad |
| 20:15:28 | scorche|sh | ;) |
| 20:15:58 | bluebrother | I hated it every single time I used it |
| 20:15:59 | borkbork | neither. old codecs were working for a while, then went illinst too. new codecs are illinst or codec error |
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| 20:16:53 | * | gevaerts has lost the little plastic bit to hold the battry ribbon cable in place :( |
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| 20:17:31 | * | gevaerts found it again |
| 20:18:04 | borkbork | current build: "codec failed", nightly build: "codec failed" or "illinst at 00000004". nightly + old codecs: works a while until error again. |
| 20:18:21 | borkbork | hmm |
| 20:18:49 | BigBambi | borkbork: H1x0 did you say? |
| 20:21:50 | BigBambi | borkbork: And what codec? As current build (r16630) works perfectly here on my H140... |
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| 20:22:27 | kslater | how the heck do you save a preset (Sansa e250) once you've selected the station callsign? |
| 20:22:57 | kslater | manual says press play, but play is the up key to navigate the characters to input. |
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| 20:25:22 | BigBambi | kslater: Hold play |
| 20:25:30 | * | gevaerts made his first measurement |
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| 20:26:29 | kslater | BigBambi - tried that, just causes the cursor to roll up the screen repeatedly. |
| 20:26:36 | BigBambi | kslater: Actually, on my Sansa play is save - the wheel goes up and down the virtual keyboard |
| 20:26:43 | BigBambi | kslater: What version of rockbox? |
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| 20:26:47 | borkbork_ | hello again |
| 20:26:56 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Did you see my reply? |
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| 20:26:58 | borkbork_ | sorry, web client crashed |
| 20:26:59 | borkbork_ | no |
| 20:27:20 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> borkbork: H1x0 did you say? And what codec? As current build (r16630) works perfectly here on my H140... |
| 20:27:49 | borkbork_ | well, trying to play mp3 and ogg |
| 20:27:52 | borkbork_ | neither works |
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| 20:27:59 | kslater | BigBambi - it's a custom chrisjs version, sorry to have bugged you guys. |
| 20:28:14 | kslater | maybe it's time to go back to a nightly build. |
| 20:28:28 | BigBambi | They do here, so I suspect there is a problem with extracting. Can you back up your .rockbox folder, delete it, and extract the current build? |
| 20:28:40 | BigBambi | kslater: There is a reason we don't support unsupported builds... |
| 20:28:55 | borkbork_ | bigbambi: r16626 is up on http://build.rockbox.org/ |
| 20:29:03 | kslater | right, which is why I'm apologizing for having asked to begin with. ;-( |
| 20:29:11 | kslater | I should know better |
| 20:30:32 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Er, actually it is the sdame thing - the commits in between have been manual and web page changes |
| 20:30:43 | BigBambi | kslater: Indeed so :) |
| 20:30:52 | BigBambi | borkbork_: So could you try my suggestion |
| 20:30:58 | BigBambi | +? |
| 20:31:03 | kslater | I'll pull a new build down tonight from home |
| 20:31:25 | borkbork_ | BigBambi: I'll try. Back in a sec. :) |
| 20:31:42 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Cool, cheers :) |
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| 20:36:23 | amiconn | SSnake: The menu code should definitely not clear the button queue |
| 20:36:43 | amiconn | Right now you can press buttons in advance in rockbox - a very convenient feature |
| 20:37:32 | bblack | FS #8719 enables morse input on Sansa e200s; I'm a morse noob but it's still easier to use than scrolling through the virtual keyboard - try it if you have an e200 |
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| 20:38:30 | amiconn | Mixing action api and button_get* is expected to be problematic. Stick to either one of these |
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| 20:41:01 | amiconn | Actually, mixing those shouldn't cause big problems if you take care. But perhaps your plugin doesn't use the button queue? |
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| 20:44:45 | * | gevaerts made a stupid mistake |
| 20:45:32 | gevaerts | amiconn: my ipod has a cf50607, and it seems to have a different number of pins than the pcf50606 |
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| 20:46:44 | gevaerts | amiconn: it has 12 pins on each side, and the pcf50606 has 14 pins each |
| 20:47:46 | * | gevaerts found this after 14 voltage measurements |
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| 20:49:34 | gevaerts | And I can'f find a datasheet for the CF50607 :( |
| 20:49:58 | bluebrother | gevaerts: that's CF, not PCF? |
| 20:50:19 | gevaerts | bluebrother: the chip is marked CF50607 |
| 20:52:41 | bluebrother | hmm, the IPL wiki tells about a PCF50607 that is inside the Ipod 5G. |
| 20:52:50 | borkbork_ | hmmm, strange. maybe got it working now. |
| 20:53:07 | borkbork_ | updated to latest version of bootloader, harddeleted everything old rockbox stuff |
| 20:53:11 | borkbork_ | reinstalled daily build |
| 20:54:20 | borkbork_ | nope |
| 20:54:25 | borkbork_ | grrr |
| 20:54:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | bluebrother: From the iPodLinux wiki: Philips PCF50607 PMU (Power Management Unit) |
| 20:55:04 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Hang on one mo |
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| 20:55:11 | bluebrother | LambdaCalculus37: that's exactly what I was looking at ;-) |
| 20:55:16 | borkbork_ | this is getting more and more strange. now this puppy boots sometimes to rockbox, sometimes to iriver os. and rockbox crashes when playing. |
| 20:55:55 | gevaerts | Maybe PCF and CF are the same or similar ? Anyway, I found an indication that the PCF50635 might be the same (smaller-die version), so I'm looking for that now |
| 20:55:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | bluebrother: Tried Googling for a datasheet. No dice. |
| 20:56:04 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Sorry, thought I might have been stupid, but no, it definately works on my H140 |
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| 20:57:49 | bluebrother | I'm wondering where the pcf50606 datasheet came from. NXP doesn't have it. |
| 20:58:45 | borkbork_ | Bigbambi: hope its not my iriver giving up on me. when booting up in iriver os it says 38 GB free disk. |
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| 20:58:57 | kugel | bluebrother: I think you made a mistake |
| 20:59:09 | kugel | regarding http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8425 |
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| 20:59:29 | * | bluebrother goes checking |
| 20:59:30 | kugel | the list is indeed backwards, by the means of title sorting not scrolling |
| 20:59:59 | borkbork_ | maybe should do a thorough scan disk and see what it says, if it is a faulty disk sector in .rockbox folder or something |
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| 21:00:09 | borkbork_ | that might explain this unpredictable behaviour |
| 21:00:17 | bluebrother | kugel: why? It was even you who commented that the mentioned patch fixes it |
| 21:00:18 | kugel | I checked it once, and I wanted to fix it in my fs#8335, but sadly, my I couldn't do much coding the last weeks |
| 21:00:22 | gevaerts | I did find it there earlier today... |
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| 21:00:52 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Yes, that is certainly something to try |
| 21:00:57 | kugel | bluebrother: that just means that I got the entry wrong too in the first place :) |
| 21:01:11 | bluebrother | ah. |
| 21:01:19 | BigBambi | borkbork_: I hope it is just a corrupted disk |
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| 21:01:23 | kugel | bluebrother: Ahh no, I remember |
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| 21:01:39 | kugel | my post was referring to the previous post, not to the entry |
| 21:01:42 | bluebrother | sooo ... do I need to reopen that task or not? |
| 21:01:45 | borkbork_ | BigBambi: i hope not. :) |
| 21:02:00 | kugel | bluebrother: I think so |
| 21:02:01 | borkbork_ | BigBambi: it will be a battle of wills |
| 21:02:02 | bluebrother | ah. A bit confusing ... |
| 21:02:18 | amiconn | gevaerts: I found a datasheet for pcf50603. That's 48-pin, but suspect that the pinout might be different... |
| 21:02:22 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Eh? Surely a corrupted disk would be good - it is fixable. A hardware problem needs replacement partd |
| 21:02:28 | kugel | yea, I should have said that better |
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| 21:02:59 | borkbork_ | BigBambi: Yeah, guess I could live without that particual sector. As long as its not the entire disk going down. |
| 21:03:09 | bluebrother | kugel: ok, so my error was letting you confusing me ;-) |
| 21:03:11 | gevaerts | amiconn: http://www.nxp.com/infocus/topics/pmus/ mentions both, and they have different features |
| 21:03:19 | borkbork_ | BigBambi: Cheers for you help! |
| 21:03:22 | kugel | bluebrother: kinda :( |
| 21:03:33 | BigBambi | borkbork_: Corrupted disk in this context is just a corrupted FAT, and depending on the cause is perfectly fixable - i.e. NOT a physical problem |
| 21:03:42 | bluebrother | well, fortunately reopening a task isn't painful at all. |
| 21:03:44 | BigBambi | (FAT or files that is) |
| 21:04:07 | bluebrother | I was just in the process of cleaning up my inbox (still have much stuff left by my offline weeks) |
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| 21:05:27 | Phill | Slasheri: Red, in case you haven't noticed. You are missing the changes to file.c. |
| 21:06:00 | borkbork_ | ok. leaving. thanks again for help. |
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| 21:06:19 | borkbork_ | and cheers to all developers for great os! |
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| 21:06:40 | gevaerts | Anyway, now that I have my ipod under a microscope, does anyone want me to look at some other markings ? |
| 21:06:45 | BigBambi | borkbork_: You are welcome (on all counts) :) |
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| 21:07:23 | pixelma | Phill: are those changes ifdef'ed out for the Ondios ("low mem" target)? |
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| 21:08:51 | pixelma | probably, because the Ondio builds are not red... |
| 21:09:59 | Phill | pixelma: yes, dircache is only compiled if MEM > 8MB |
| 21:10:55 | pixelma | ok, I still don't completely understand why I would need dircache on my c200 though... |
| 21:11:29 | Llorean | pixelma: Aren't there still Database features that depend on it to work well? |
| 21:12:12 | Phill | pixelma: it wa my solution for database 'Load to RAM' only compiling if dircache is enabled. The correct solution to that was commited yesterday though, so I guess there is less use now... |
| 21:12:28 | * | amiconn suspects that the pcf50607 is actually a pcf50605 in a smaller package |
| 21:12:47 | pixelma | Llorean: I only know of the auto-update that's said to not depend on dircache anymore but that it's slow without it |
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| 21:13:15 | gevaerts | Maybe, but the number of pins is different, so what's the new pinout ? |
| 21:13:16 | Llorean | pixelma: Dunno, probably it is so. |
| 21:13:20 | bluebrother | gevaerts: I found a link at this page: http://icmaster.com/search/iPod_Nano_web.jsp |
| 21:13:33 | bluebrother | unfortunately downloading doesn't work for me :( |
| 21:13:48 | amiconn | As the pcf50605 doesn't have some of the function blocks the full-fledged pcf50606 does have, it should be possible to drop 8 pins. The question remains: which pins, and did the order of the other pins stay the same? |
| 21:14:31 | pixelma | Llorean: and I don't use the database much and never used auto-update at all |
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| 21:14:59 | pixelma | (I could have on M5, but didn't) |
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| 21:15:22 | * | gevaerts will ask someone at work who has some contacts with nxp. Maybe that will help... |
| 21:17:05 | gevaerts | The other possibility is to try this on a 4G. Those seem to have the PCF50605. |
| 21:18:01 | gevaerts | bluebrother: even if downloading would work, it seems to link to "product literature", not a datasheet. |
| 21:18:22 | mcuelenaere | does anyone recognize this chip? http://aycu34.webshots.com/image/48273/2000510834036114826_fs.jpg |
| 21:20:44 | gevaerts | Well, it looks like Texas Instruments, but unfortunately they make more than one model. |
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| 21:23:25 | bluebrother | gevaerts: too bad :( |
| 21:25:48 | gevaerts | I do think that this might lead to something though. Some of the voltages I measured (on unknown pins..) are different between EDM and rockbox. |
| 21:26:03 | * | gevaerts gets an idea |
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| 21:27:20 | gevaerts | Would it be possible to make a rockbox plugin/mod/whatever that allows to vary different output voltages on the CF50607 (assuming it's a disguised PCF50605), and find what pins they correspond to by measuring ? |
| 21:28:27 | stripwax | surely] |
| 21:28:30 | toffe82 | just found something about reseting a gogear philips and make it work as ums, it is for players with hdd but perhaps work with all the gogear's, I will try tonight |
| 21:28:54 | toffe82 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-349256814975105076 |
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| 21:31:13 | stripwax | gevaerts - hm, didn't Buschel make such a patch/plugin/tool/debug menu item already? |
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| 21:35:40 | gevaerts | stripwax: maybe. I can't find it immediately though. The big problem would of course be that you need to access buttons and the LCD for this, and the measurements need to be done right at the other side... |
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| 21:36:07 | * | gevaerts suddenly thinks of usb serial support. Maybe that could help. |
| 21:36:09 | stripwax | true |
| 21:36:12 | stripwax | #ooh |
| 21:36:30 | stripwax | oh, but not if the problem is debugging usb −− right? |
| 21:36:45 | amiconn | meh |
| 21:36:46 | gevaerts | The first problem is identifying pins. |
| 21:37:26 | * | amiconn found a webpage with a table listing various parts of the ipod nano or video, which had links to datasheets in the rightmost column. |
| 21:37:36 | stripwax | 'real' datasheets |
| 21:37:38 | stripwax | ? |
| 21:37:49 | amiconn | Unfortunately these links pointed to www.semiconductor.philips.com, which is obviously deat |
| 21:38:31 | amiconn | But later I found that the directory structure on www.nxp.com is the same. SO I wanted to try the new hostname + the old directory+file, but now I can't find that table anymore... |
| 21:38:52 | stripwax | www.archive.org ? |
| 21:39:24 | amiconn | no help |
| 21:39:47 | amiconn | That one only has a few copies from www.semiconductor.philips.com dating 1999..2001 |
| 21:41:19 | gevaerts | I'll ask my coworker tomorrow if he can help to get something. If not, I guess I can try the tedious way of measuring all pins while (slightly) varying voltages on them one by one. |
| 21:41:56 | scorche|sh | n/w 33 |
| 21:42:29 | * | gevaerts doesn't really look forward to that. Positioning multimeter probes with needles soldered to them (the probes are much too thick...) while looking through a microscope is tiring work. |
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| 21:43:15 | gevaerts | Hi Buschel ! |
| 21:43:42 | Buschel | hi :o) just read about the pcf-experiments |
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| 21:45:50 | Buschel | hmm, my wlan-usb-adapter becomes quite unstable after some hours of usage... |
| 21:46:20 | gevaerts | Do you happen to have some code to easily control the pcf ? |
| 21:47:15 | amiconn | There is pcf setup code in the core |
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| 21:47:35 | Buschel | you may use firmware/drivers/pcf50605.c and the code for the pcf-debug menu |
| 21:48:16 | daywalker_ | a quick stupid question |
| 21:48:31 | daywalker_ | where on hell do i put audio files for the uisimulator |
| 21:48:31 | gevaerts | :q |
| 21:48:48 | bluebrother | daywalker_: somewhere below the archos folder |
| 21:49:11 | daywalker_ | bluebrother, anywhere? |
| 21:49:18 | daywalker_ | uhm |
| 21:49:41 | Buschel | gevaerts: when entering the debugmenu for pcf-registers you can easily add some code to change voltage of specific registers via the scrollwheel |
| 21:49:43 | daywalker_ | nevermind, thanks. i'll try it |
| 21:50:16 | bluebrother | daywalker_: yep, that replaces your player. So you can do it the same way as on your player |
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| 21:55:08 | cg | amiconn: is this the page you were looking for? http://www.electronicproducts.com/whatsinside/viewteardown.asp?filename=iPod_Nano_web.html |
| 21:56:21 | gevaerts | OK. I'll try that (or usb-serial...). |
| 21:56:59 | gevaerts | I won't measure today anymore though. I need to be more awake than average for that. |
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| 22:01:03 | amiconn | cg: yes, thanks. Unfortunately, that link pointed to the pcf50606 datasheet (same filename in the link as on the current nxp website). |
| 22:01:50 | amiconn | Even this current link is dead (but we don't need it as we do have the 50605/50606 datasheet) |
| 22:02:57 | amiconn | The 50607 can't just be a cut-down version of the 50606. They added at least 2x GPO |
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| 22:05:01 | Buschel | gevaerts: yep. btw, some of the registers/voltages can be linked (with some probability) to other hardware components by test on a 5.5G (DCDC1/DCD2 = core voltage PP502x, DCUDC1 = maybe RAM?, D1REGC = WM8758, D2REGC = maybe dock connector pin 17 (accessory detect)?, D3REGC = LCD?) |
| 22:06:41 | Bagder | desowin: so how is the romfs image updated in the sansa conncet? |
| 22:06:46 | Bagder | connect even |
| 22:07:07 | desowin | everest_initrd_ext_prod_1.1.1.50239.srr.e - this file has usr/share/lua/5.1/checksig.lua which checks platform file |
| 22:07:29 | Bagder | ok, so you can replace that with a dummy version? |
| 22:07:30 | desowin | Bagder: first the vmlinux and initrd (I called this romfs...) are sent |
| 22:07:51 | desowin | Bagder: drive doesn't expose its drive to the world... |
| 22:08:15 | desowin | I think zsi_fw.exe wouldn't complain if we would send unencrypted file |
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| 22:09:27 | desowin | as for now, I know nothing about the .srr format used though |
| 22:09:54 | gevaerts | Buschel: so once we have a datasheet, I can use that info to prioritize the tests. |
| 22:10:39 | desowin | zaprecover.exe doesn't complain at all if unencrypted file is sent |
| 22:11:10 | desowin | (vmlinux+initrd are send by zsi-fw; platform is send by zaprecover) |
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| 22:26:12 | gevaerts | I guess the good news is that all smoke is still inside my ipod. |
| 22:27:01 | * | Buschel just recognizes a pcf-voltage which was always switched off in svn... |
| 22:27:17 | bblack | great, multivolume dircache in trunk, good work Phill |
| 22:27:25 | bblack | Slasheri: awake? |
| 22:28:21 | gevaerts | Buschel: which one ? DCDC2 ? |
| 22:28:31 | Buschel | gevaerts: DCDE is configured to off by default (by pcf itself). Maybe we should try to enable this one and check whether there is a influence on the USB-stuff? |
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| 22:29:46 | gevaerts | Buschel: maybe. Shouldn't it be possible to see in the EDM code if the EDM sets this to something ? |
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| 22:33:31 | Buschel | gevaerts: DCDEC1 = 0x03 (=OFF, 1.8V) should be set to 0xe3 to give it a try. can you try to add "pcf50605_write(DCDEC1, 0xe3);" to firmware/drivers/pcf50605.c right at the end of pcf50605_init(void)? |
| 22:34:30 | Buschel | I have got no coding/compiling environment here... |
| 22:34:53 | gevaerts | Building now |
| 22:35:18 | * | Buschel will face the storm outside and smoke a cigarette now |
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| 22:38:24 | gevaerts | The good news is that it still runs. Hopefully there's no bad news... |
| 22:38:29 | * | bluebrother reads about the Sansa Fuze ... |
| 22:39:47 | * | gevaerts doesn't want to hear about fuses while he's experimenting with power supply settings |
| 22:40:05 | markun | :) |
| 22:40:57 | * | Buschel experimented a lot with power settings -> no fuses :) |
| 22:41:09 | toffe82 | I already experiment the gigabeat one's |
| 22:41:21 | toffe82 | only 5 :) |
| 22:41:33 | Buschel | but it didn't start sometimes, that was when I resetted the iPod quite fast ;) |
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| 22:42:06 | markun | toffe82: kkurbjun now has a nice setup to do measuerments on his Gigabeat. I hope he finds the 'power waste on startup' bug. |
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| 22:44:44 | amiconn | mehbleh |
| 22:45:11 | * | amiconn got reminded how messy some parts of the rockbox code are |
| 22:45:48 | markun | amiconn: which part were you looking at? |
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| 22:46:04 | Buschel | gevaerts: with the change you've made DCDE is set to 1.8V (0xe3), it can be raised to 2.1V (0xe4), 2.4V (0xe5), 2.7V (0xe6), 3.0V (0xe7) and 3.3V (0xe8...0xef) |
| 22:46:12 | amiconn | e.g. lcd.h |
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| 22:48:24 | gevaerts | Buschel: at what point will it catch fire ? |
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| 22:49:45 | Buschel | gevaerts: I never tried... at least it survived raising DCUD from 1.8V to 3.3V −− no boot, reset, set to 1.8V again, still works fine. |
| 22:50:16 | Buschel | gevaerts: do you see any positive effect on the USB-issue when enabling the supply? |
| 22:50:29 | * | gevaerts will try. He prefers the Gigabeat F anyway |
| 22:51:32 | gevaerts | Buschel: not yet. On my system, reading 1GB of data both with and without DCDE work fine, and behind a hub both work equally bad (i.e. not well enough to actually begin reading) |
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| 22:58:40 | Buschel | gevearts: is this with high speed or full speed? |
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| 22:59:01 | gevaerts | Buschel: high speed (I got 4.8 MB/s) |
| 22:59:24 | * | Buschel wants to know what is wrong with his PC. |
| 22:59:36 | Buschel | I can't get high speed to work |
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| 23:00:05 | gevaerts | You're not alone. It seems to vary a lot. Did you try different ports ? |
| 23:00:43 | Buschel | only one port (of two available), with and without hub. |
| 23:01:01 | Buschel | I might try the other port and my notebook's ports |
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| 23:01:40 | gevaerts | Actually, I wouldn't mind a slightly worse connection here. That makes it easier to test... |
| 23:05:11 | Buschel | I'll test the power supply change on my PC tomorrow. Maybe there is a positive effect on my USB-connection... |
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| 23:06:34 | gevaerts | I'm now testing 0xe6. Still not good |
| 23:06:48 | Buschel | gevaerts: I'll let you know about the results |
| 23:06:54 | Buschel | good night all |
| 23:07:00 | gevaerts | Night. |
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| 23:19:47 | gevaerts | DCDEC1 doesn't seem to make a difference. |
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| 23:45:16 | tanjahreeen | hey |
| 23:47:02 | tanjahreeen | How come my sansa cannot display my songs that are in traditional chinese? |
| 23:48:01 | pixelma | maybe your font doesn't have trasitional chinese characters? |
| 23:48:12 | pixelma | *traditional |
| 23:51:11 | tanjahreeen | oh |
| 23:51:12 | tanjahreeen | ok |
| 23:51:13 | tanjahreeen | thanks |
| 23:51:18 | tanjahreeen | im reading a guide on that |
| 23:51:22 | tanjahreeen | and also |
| 23:51:26 | tanjahreeen | i just installed it |
| 23:51:42 | tanjahreeen | but now that i plug it back into my computer, my comuter does not recognize it anymore |
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| 23:52:51 | pixelma | I guess Rockbox was running? If so, try turning your player off and then connect to your computer. |
| 23:53:08 | tanjahreeen | so |
| 23:53:24 | tanjahreeen | i cannot run rockbox on my sansa while i connect it to the computor? |
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| 23:56:43 | pixelma | if you want to still use it (as a music player) by holding "select" while you're connecting it. But for the USB data connection it will use the original firmware currently (and it should reboot automatically even if Rockbox is running but this doesn't always work). |
| 23:56:55 | pixelma | Work is being done for an own Rockbox USB mode, no-one knows when it will be ready though. |
| 23:58:56 | pixelma | (for Sansas/Ipods/H10s) |
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