| 00:00:32 | DerekRead | I have an .fmr file for my region and would like to place it on the wiki. I would also like to contribute to the help. Who do I ask for write permission? |
| 00:00:42 | Bagder | amiconn: cool! |
| 00:01:25 | amiconn | I first thought I made a mistake in the hardware dependent part... turned out that I goofed in the main/remote lcd unification work... |
| 00:01:52 | amiconn | This resulted in uninitialised foreground+background patterns, i.e. white on white |
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| 00:03:39 | gevaerts | DerekRead: you're in the right place. Is DerekRead also your wiki name ? |
| 00:04:35 | DerekRead | Yes, same name on the wiki |
| 00:05:06 | * | gevaerts tries adding a wiki user for the first time |
| 00:06:10 | gevaerts | DerekRead: You should have write permission now (unless I did something wrong). Welcome! |
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| 00:17:55 | DerekRead | gevaerts: Thanks. Logged in, uploaded my .fmr file and made some changes to /twiki/bin/view/Main/FmPresetsAmerica. Took a minute to figure out the wiki format, but I think I got it. |
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| 00:25:03 | saratoga | the ServerWiki page says it needs SSH "allowing user 'rbclient' to login using a public key" |
| 00:25:06 | saratoga | what does this mean? |
| 00:25:12 | saratoga | (specifically a public key) |
| 00:26:05 | Diggin_on | Can anybody here tell me where I can find the experimental rockbox build by Kosh? |
| 00:26:41 | saratoga | Diggin_on: unsupported builds aren't supported here |
| 00:26:56 | Llorean | Diggin_on: This is really a channel for official Rockbox. If it's not in the unsupported builds portion of our forums, we aren't going to know about it. |
| 00:27:13 | scorche|sh | and if it is, we arent going to talk about it |
| 00:27:35 | Llorean | Well, we'll point you to it, and say "ask questions there" :-P |
| 00:27:46 | Llorean | We won't pretend like it doesn't exist or anything. :) |
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| 00:29:38 | Diggin_on | What's so bad about this build? I did not know that I should not use it! |
| 00:29:53 | scorche|sh | we never said you shouldnt use it...we just said it sint supported by us |
| 00:30:04 | scorche|sh | s/sint/isnt |
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| 00:31:16 | Diggin_on | I do not know what the difference to the official build is! I really love rockbox! It's one of the greatest open source things I've ever seen! |
| 00:31:37 | saratoga | the difference is you can ask about the official build on here and the forums |
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| 00:32:15 | soap | The logistical nightmare of trying to support Joe Blow's build #4523 is the reason they aren't supported in official channels. |
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| 00:32:32 | soap | Who knows exactly what Joe has done, or how he has done it? |
| 00:32:46 | * | gevaerts hopes Joe knows |
| 00:32:54 | Diggin_on | OK, so I will use the official build! Is it planned to improve the recording sreen? |
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| 00:33:37 | soap | Ahh - if the build involves recording I ASSume there is a forum thread on it at the MysticRiver forums. |
| 00:33:41 | scorche|sh | i believe a dev is looking at it, yes |
| 00:33:55 | soap | (because I ASSume it is an iRiver build) |
| 00:34:02 | exo | hello there everybody.. can anyone tell me if there is a solution to install rockbox on my Tatung Elio Tpj-1022 ? im not sure becouse i found threads saing it isnts possible, but also builds inside the CVS :( |
| 00:34:22 | scorche|sh | exo: all the devices rockbox runs on are listed on the front page |
| 00:34:38 | scorche|sh | and we havent used CVS for a while now (we use SVN now ;) |
| 00:34:44 | exo | oh ok |
| 00:34:53 | exo | too bad ...there it isnt ....damn player :) |
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| 00:35:25 | scorche|sh | feel free to port it yourself :) |
| 00:36:01 | exo | hehe yes i could try... but anyway thank you |
| 00:36:33 | Diggin_on | Yes it's an Iriver build! I like this player very much, because it has all the features I searched for when I tried to find my optimal mp3 player! |
| 00:36:51 | Diggin_on | Is the Recording Enhancement Pack a official thing? |
| 00:36:56 | scorche|sh | no |
| 00:37:05 | scorche|sh | and i dont think anyone has worked on it for a while |
| 00:37:23 | Diggin_on | Yes that's right! |
| 00:38:04 | Diggin_on | I used it a few month ago with an old rockbox build and I liked the look of the recording screen. |
| 00:38:14 | * | gevaerts expects that at the current rate, the M3 port will be done by morning |
| 00:38:20 | amiconn | haha |
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| 00:38:51 | Diggin_on | What changes are planned for the recording screen? |
| 00:39:12 | gevaerts | Diggin_on: have a look at the forums. There is a thread about it there. |
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| 00:39:49 | Diggin_on | OK, thanks! |
| 00:40:13 | Diggin_on | @gevaerts: Are you an official rockbox programmer? |
| 00:41:14 | amiconn | Bagder: You could add an M3 bootloader to the table, if we can live with one warning for a while... |
| 00:41:20 | scorche|sh | Diggin_on: you can identify people who are "official" by looking at their cloak (type /whois name) |
| 00:41:42 | gevaerts | Diggin_on: yes, since about three weeks |
| 00:41:55 | amiconn | The bootloader does what it should, apart from button detection (ADC is missing, hence no buttonas apart from main & remote Play work, plus main Hold) |
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| 00:43:48 | Diggin_on | Is it planned to support Irivers USB host mode? |
| 00:43:53 | esotericWisp | Boo |
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| 00:48:37 | * | gevaerts is now officially going to sleep |
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| 00:49:31 | esotericWisp | the golden quotes section is really funny, even that pic! |
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| 00:52:55 | esotericWisp | Its mee!!! |
| 00:53:01 | esotericWisp | my pic |
| 00:53:05 | esotericWisp | its cool |
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| 00:56:37 | Zae87 | ciA |
| 00:56:50 | Zae87 | ciao c'è qualcuno di italiano? |
| 00:58:27 | krazykit | Zae87: this is an english-speaking support channel |
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| 01:09:47 | ryran | anyone know if gevaerts is aware that usb charging (ipod 5g here) causes the cpu to stay boosted for the duration the cable is plugged in? |
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| 01:18:31 | ryran | well.. in the unlikely event I'm the first person to notice this and someone comes back and reads it later: with r16647, plugging in my 5g ipod via usb to a car-charger, wall-wart, or pc (holding down menu) during playback or with playback paused or stopped, boosts the cpu. it stays boosted until you unplug the cable. |
| 01:21:25 | ryran | I guess everyone really is asleep... |
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| 01:24:28 | scorche|sh | ryran: i think this is on purpose to speed up transfers |
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| 01:26:16 | amiconn | scorche: while charging?? |
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| 01:26:56 | ryran | scorche|sh: I figured that's WHY the behaviour has been changed, but atm it's a bug−−you don't want the cpu running more when charging than it would be if you were playing music... it's crazy. |
| 01:27:07 | scorche|sh | ah...as in not with USB connection...gotcha |
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| 01:38:52 | GrooveStix | hello people |
| 01:39:23 | GrooveStix | I was wondering, is there a way to customize what is cataloged in the (music) database ? |
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| 01:40:32 | GrooveStix | (as in, how could I customize Rockbox to scan only the folders that I want to catalog?) |
| 01:41:42 | midgey | folders containing a file called database.ignore won't be added to the database |
| 01:42:40 | GrooveStix | oh awesome! so I can edit it in Notepad right? |
| 01:42:51 | GrooveStix | in windows, that is |
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| 01:43:19 | midgey | so lets say you have a folder called "Misc" on your player |
| 01:43:43 | midgey | create a file in "Misc" called database.ignore and it will be ignored |
| 01:43:56 | midgey | it can be an empty file, a renamed text file, etc |
| 01:43:59 | GrooveStix | Ohhh! just en emp... |
| 01:44:14 | GrooveStix | I see, thanks a lot! |
| 01:44:17 | midgey | you don't create a list of ignored folders in database.ignore |
| 01:44:34 | GrooveStix | right, that's what I thought you were saying |
| 01:44:37 | GrooveStix | at first |
| 01:45:11 | midgey | yeah, i just wanted to clarify :) |
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| 01:47:05 | GrooveStix | very nice, I find the database browser much better, but I have many random individual songs that just clutter it... I tend to collect full albums instead of individual songs... |
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| 01:48:36 | |NSA| | i think i killed my sansa. i had a dirctory which couldnt be deleted, so i uninstalled rockbox, but now when i try to start it up, it gets stick in "refeeshing database" in the original firmware. is the player now dead forever or is there a way to fix it? |
| 01:49:05 | linuxstb__ | |NSA|: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick |
| 01:49:23 | |NSA| | does it matter if its a c2400? |
| 01:49:27 | |NSA| | *240 |
| 01:50:52 | linuxstb__ | No. The program is called e200tool, but it works on the c200s as well. |
| 01:52:08 | linuxstb__ | (although you probably don't even need e200tool..._ |
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| 01:53:22 | GrooveStix | oh crap! I was about to ask him something |
| 01:53:24 | GrooveStix | :( |
| 01:55:40 | GrooveStix | anyway, I was trying to ask this at #ubuntu but since nobody replied I'll ask here... Is there a way to submit the hardware configuration of my laptop to somebody that in turn will provide a better driver support for me and other users? |
| 01:56:43 | GrooveStix | (sorry for the offtopicness) |
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| 02:01:27 | krazykit | GrooveStix: this is an on-topic channel, so please take off-topic channel elsewhere, even if they don't reply. |
| 02:03:11 | GrooveStix | alright alright, at least I am not interfering with anyone... |
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| 02:09:14 | |NSA| | i tried that unbrocking thing. it still gets stuck on "refresh databse" |
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| 02:19:52 | alphanumeric | is anyone online? |
| 02:20:57 | advcomp2019 | alphanumeric, yea, but you can just say what you need |
| 02:20:58 | scorche | only 119 of us |
| 02:21:28 | alphanumeric | sorry, i just figured it out. it was a database.ignore question. |
| 02:21:54 | alphanumeric | I'm relatively new to IRC (I use chatzilla), so I'm not sure what all the icons mean |
| 02:22:40 | alphanumeric | if database.ignore is set to a hidden file (on Windows), will rockbox still see it? |
| 02:23:00 | scorche | depending on your viewmode, yes |
| 02:23:29 | scorche | database.ignore is just for the databse...has not effect on the file browser |
| 02:23:33 | scorche | s/not/no |
| 02:24:02 | alphanumeric | so if I rebuild, rockbox will look for database.ignore even if it's marked as hidden? |
| 02:25:17 | |NSA| | i managed to unbrock it. but back to what started this. i have a directory that I cannot delete |
| 02:25:51 | |NSA| | *unbrick |
| 02:26:16 | alphanumeric | NSA, if you're on windows, do a chkdsk /f on mass storage mode |
| 02:27:08 | |NSA| | whats /f? |
| 02:27:25 | |NSA| | fix? |
| 02:28:04 | alphanumeric | yeah, fixes errors. you know how to do a chkdsk? |
| 02:28:44 | |NSA| | yeah |
| 02:28:50 | |NSA| | it fixed the problem. thanks. |
| 02:29:03 | alphanumeric | sure, no problem. I've had similar problems before. |
| 02:29:58 | |NSA| | if only i asked here first instead of doing random stuff which caused me to mess up the firmware and bootloader and wasted half an hour fixing that only to come back here, run a 3 minute chkdisk whiuch fixed it |
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| 02:34:17 | alphanumeric | did you try to format it first or something? |
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| 02:44:18 | |NSA| | no |
| 02:44:31 | |NSA| | it says rockbox isnt found |
| 02:44:56 | |NSA| | even though i installed it the same way as last time using the rbquitil |
| 02:46:41 | |NSA| | hmm. an old .rockbox file was interfering |
| 02:47:24 | |NSA| | now to set up all the settings again |
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| 02:57:35 | Beta2K | Anyone want to check out a schematic/board I drew up for the Gigabeat F's serial/JTAG port? |
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| 03:09:38 | Beta2K | Also, anyone around that can add give my wiki user write access? |
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| 03:19:19 | Beta2K | Good evening toffe82 :) |
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| 03:38:50 | soap | what is your Wiki Name? |
| 03:39:37 | soap | JasonStahls I assume? |
| 03:40:59 | soap | I love how the Firefox spellchecker just gives up after JosephBreihan - must be too many "misspelled" words for it to handle. |
| 03:41:14 | soap | Beta2K ^^ |
| 03:41:54 | Beta2K | Yes it is |
| 03:44:29 | soap | Do you swear on the ghost of Hagbard Celine that you are not a spammer and will only use your wiki powers for good? |
| 03:45:42 | Beta2K | I do |
| 03:45:55 | soap | I added you. |
| 03:46:02 | Beta2K | Hehehe |
| 03:46:11 | Beta2K | No "raise your right hand" ? |
| 03:46:33 | soap | I didn't want to be presumptive and assume you had one. |
| 03:52:35 | Beta2K | hehehe :) |
| 03:54:20 | Beta2K | Thanks for the help soap :) |
| 03:54:58 | kkurbjun | does anyone know of an example of $(or in a a make file or how to properly use it? |
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| 04:31:37 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: Sorry about the post editing, I was trying to put all of my thoughts in one place. |
| 04:34:37 | Davide-NYC | Maybe I should make a wiki page? Or will that just add to the confusion? |
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| 04:45:50 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: The thread has been fixed to be much more legible. (I hope) |
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| 05:25:02 | luchador | any video capability for 80gig ipod vids yet |
| 05:25:13 | luchador | havent updated my rockbox in a while |
| 05:27:12 | scorche | have you checked the MajorChanges wiki page? |
| 05:28:03 | luchador | i just got on irc |
| 05:28:52 | scorche | then perhaps you should read the guidelines linked in the topic if this is your first time |
| 05:30:11 | luchador | its not my first time |
| 05:30:13 | luchador | sorry champ |
| 05:30:29 | luchador | figured this was a place where people could openly ask questions to people who might be willing to openly give help |
| 05:31:06 | scorche | yes...and i gave you the name of a wiki page where you can see all of the "Major Changes" since you last updated... |
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| 05:32:42 | luchador | why cant you just answer a yes or no question broski |
| 05:33:05 | Llorean | Because we prefer to teach a man to fish. |
| 05:33:46 | luchador | lmao |
| 05:34:02 | alienbiker99 | maybe you should read the rules for this channel |
| 05:34:42 | luchador | its most likely reasons like this |
| 05:34:46 | luchador | that no one knows about rockbox |
| 05:34:56 | luchador | im not a dumbass |
| 05:35:02 | luchador | obviously if i wanted to check the wiki i could |
| 05:35:11 | luchador | but since i was on freenode i decided to ask a yes or no question to save some time |
| 05:35:12 | alienbiker99 | its for reasons like not using abreviations |
| 05:35:20 | luchador | thinking maybe the people from rockbox would be cool enough |
| 05:35:42 | luchador | not using abreviations? |
| 05:35:53 | luchador | theres a page talking about irc abreviations on the site |
| 05:35:55 | luchador | btw |
| 05:36:13 | Llorean | We ask that you use real words where possible, if it represents things you can find in a dictionary |
| 05:36:19 | Llorean | Since they pose problems for translation software. |
| 05:36:43 | luchador | you clearly understand me |
| 05:36:48 | luchador | or you wouldnt be communicating with me |
| 05:37:12 | scorche | lots of people read the logs and use screen readers here...they might not |
| 05:37:21 | Llorean | The fact that I understand you has nothing to do with the guideline. We ask that you avoid things like "lmao" and "btw" in general. |
| 05:37:46 | scorche | this channel has guidelines for a reason...if you are not willing to bother to follow them, then why should we answer your questions? |
| 05:38:43 | luchador | its a yes or no question scorche |
| 05:38:45 | luchador | i come in here and ask it |
| 05:38:52 | luchador | and you give me a ridiculous answer |
| 05:38:56 | luchador | is all im going at |
| 05:38:59 | Llorean | luchador: This channel is primarily for technical discussion and real support infos. We ask that people follow the guidelines and not fill up the logs with requests for things in the manual, because otherwise the logs would be significantly less readable. |
| 05:39:09 | luchador | if it was something complicated i could understand you telling me to go read up |
| 05:39:20 | Llorean | If everyone asked every yes/no question they had about Rockbox, this room would be a lot noisier and simultaneously a lot less useful |
| 05:39:22 | scorche | how is telling you a place where you can find all the major updates "rediculous"? |
| 05:39:50 | luchador | "ridiculous" |
| 05:39:56 | luchador | well |
| 05:40:02 | luchador | you could answer yes.. or no |
| 05:40:07 | luchador | instead of leading onto this convo correct? |
| 05:40:18 | luchador | in order to keep minimal log length right llorean? |
| 05:40:24 | | Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") |
| 05:40:35 | Llorean | luchador: How do we know you won't just do it again in the future. |
| 05:40:46 | Llorean | telling you the rules will be enforced keeps it from happening again, most times. |
| 05:40:54 | luchador | so if i answer another yes or no question in four months |
| 05:40:56 | luchador | its a problem? |
| 05:41:03 | luchador | ever heard of something called ubuntu? |
| 05:41:03 | scorche | then in order to keep minimal log length, are you willing to abide by the channel guidelines or not? |
| 05:41:06 | Llorean | Then again, most people have the common courtesy to say "Oh, I didn't read the rules and realize they were enforced. Sorry for being ignorant and violating them. I won't do so in the future." |
| 05:41:14 | luchador | do you think they got popular by being female dogs to anyone who asks a simple question |
| 05:41:33 | Llorean | luchador: Will you follow the rules: Yes/No? |
| 05:41:43 | luchador | Yes I will follow the rules |
| 05:41:55 | luchador | I don't see why you all are being so immature about this all though |
| 05:41:58 | luchador | it was a simple question |
| 05:42:07 | Llorean | And we gave you a simple answer, to which you gave complaint. |
| 05:42:07 | luchador | you could have simply stated the answer with a statement about the rules |
| 05:42:10 | luchador | asking me to obey them for the future |
| 05:42:11 | scorche | and i answered it with a place where you can find out more |
| 05:42:15 | Beta2K | It's not immaturity |
| 05:42:44 | luchador | why not say "no, this project has gone no where in the past year. but for your future information luchador please obey the rules etc etc" |
| 05:42:47 | Beta2K | Think of this, if you got asked simple yes/no questions day in and day out knowing it was involation of the channel rules, don't you think you'd get tired of it? :) |
| 05:42:59 | luchador | i wouldnt get tired of it |
| 05:43:07 | luchador | because in the end i know it helps a free project spread |
| 05:43:21 | luchador | but i guess i could be like you guys and chase away everyone |
| 05:43:31 | luchador | so practically no one knows about the project that they spend their lives on |
| 05:43:39 | Llorean | Most people actually respond "I didn't know it was so well documented, thanks" rather than getting pissy. |
| 05:44:06 | luchador | Well he didn't link me |
| 05:44:09 | luchador | he simply got mad |
| 05:44:17 | luchador | Llorean: you dont understand what im saying here |
| 05:44:26 | Llorean | luchador: I saw what he said, I don't see it as mad. |
| 05:44:26 | luchador | the fact is you people are not very social |
| 05:44:32 | Llorean | He asked if you'd checked the MajorChanges wiki page. |
| 05:44:34 | scorche | i didnt get mad...i asked if you had seen the relevant wiki page |
| 05:44:36 | luchador | i didnt say it was mad |
| 05:44:46 | Llorean | You said he got mad. |
| 05:44:49 | alienbiker99 | is it that hard to look it up in the wiki? it would have taken a minute |
| 05:44:50 | luchador | i typed it. |
| 05:44:53 | Llorean | Fine |
| 05:44:56 | Llorean | You typed he got mad. |
| 05:44:56 | luchador | not really |
| 05:45:00 | luchador | if i was already on freenode |
| 05:45:05 | luchador | whats the big deal with asking a question |
| 05:45:13 | scorche | there isnt |
| 05:45:17 | luchador | perhaps you all should get some better social skills |
| 05:45:21 | luchador | then why not answer it scorche |
| 05:45:21 | Llorean | But the big deal is that you didn't accept the answer you were given. |
| 05:45:26 | scorche | the issue comes when you make no effort yourself to see about finding the answer |
| 05:45:31 | luchador | because he didnt give me an answer |
| 05:45:35 | luchador | he could have told me yes, or no |
| 05:45:36 | Llorean | He told you exactly where it was. |
| 05:45:42 | luchador | no he didnt |
| 05:45:44 | scorche | i told you *exactly* where to find that and more |
| 05:45:46 | Llorean | Yes, he did. |
| 05:45:53 | luchador | No, he didn't |
| 05:45:54 | Llorean | luchador: He said the MajorChanges wiki page. |
| 05:46:03 | Llorean | That is *exactly* where it is. |
| 05:46:07 | luchador | Okay |
| 05:46:10 | luchador | make me load up firefox |
| 05:46:10 | Llorean | If you go to the Wiki, and type in that page name, you'll find the info. |
| 05:46:17 | luchador | goto the unorganized webpage |
| 05:46:18 | luchador | and look it up |
| 05:46:29 | Llorean | Yes. |
| 05:46:36 | luchador | when you could just be social |
| 05:46:41 | luchador | and give me the answer |
| 05:46:42 | Llorean | This isn't a social channel. |
| 05:46:58 | luchador | Llorean: let me ask you something |
| 05:47:00 | luchador | what is rockbox |
| 05:47:11 | alienbiker99 | thats on the wiki too =) |
| 05:47:21 | luchador | its an open source project correct? |
| 05:47:24 | scorche | and on the front page ;) |
| 05:47:30 | luchador | how do open source projects spread? |
| 05:47:35 | luchador | basically by word of mouth |
| 05:47:44 | luchador | if people act like bundles of sticks |
| 05:47:47 | alienbiker99 | via spy sattelies |
| 05:47:47 | luchador | then project doesnt spread |
| 05:48:27 | luchador | you guys dont really get it |
| 05:48:38 | luchador | look at a well known open source project |
| 05:48:43 | luchador | i used ubuntu as an example earlier |
| 05:48:49 | scorche | i do all the time |
| 05:48:52 | Llorean | luchador: Please, take this to the social channel if you're going to get preachy |
| 05:48:57 | Llorean | Since it's not really relevant to this channel. |
| 05:49:00 | luchador | what might that channel be? |
| 05:49:05 | Llorean | Look at the channel topic |
| 05:49:06 | Llorean | Again |
| 05:49:06 | luchador | or shall i go look it up on the wiki |
| 05:49:14 | scorche | luchador: many bigger open source channels are much stricter than we are... |
| 05:49:23 | luchador | not at all scorch |
| 05:49:26 | luchador | #ubuntu please |
| 05:49:35 | scorche | ok...so you give me one example |
| 05:49:45 | luchador | want to watch me ask a question in there? |
| 05:49:51 | luchador | think theyre going to make me go look at a wiki |
| 05:49:53 | Llorean | Please, stopl. |
| 05:50:02 | Llorean | This doesn't belong in this channel any more |
| 05:50:02 | luchador | hey btw lets look at how many people are in there scorche |
| 05:50:09 | Llorean | You said you'd abide by the rules, so live up to your words. |
| 05:50:13 | luchador | Oh wow, 1183. |
| 05:50:21 | luchador | Because they are willing to help people |
| 05:50:24 | scorche | luchador: if you want to talk more about this, come into the social channel |
| 05:50:25 | luchador | regardless of the question |
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| 06:39:40 | luchador | anyways, thanks for not answering a yes or no question because youre simply upset over the fact that you cant get something to work on an ipod video |
| 06:39:45 | luchador | get some real developers on this project |
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| 06:40:10 | Beta2K | Get us the cip docs and we'll make it work |
| 06:40:15 | Beta2K | chip |
| 06:40:57 | Beta2K | actually I tried to con the local distributor out of the docs... |
| 06:41:11 | Beta2K | They haven't called me back yet... |
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| 07:15:19 | mapiasal | i was wondering where do you put the diff files from patches when downloaded? |
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| 07:16:51 | scorche | mapiasal: you might want to have a look at the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page |
| 07:17:16 | scorche | patches must be compiled in |
| 07:17:34 | mapiasal | ah ok thanks |
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| 07:35:01 | JdGordon | Bagder: hey, ping me when you have a minute to fudge with the build servers... I've fixed it up once and for all now |
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| 09:16:34 | Casainho | hello :-) |
| 09:17:01 | Casainho | can anyone please explain to me how can I code and have my code online, on the SNV of RB? |
| 09:17:15 | Casainho | I am new to this tecnologies |
| 09:18:46 | * | amiconn just got an idea how it might be possible to significantly reduce, if not remove, the remote lcd ticking on the irivers without throttling the transfers a lot (which is what the current reduction method uses) |
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| 09:20:00 | amiconn | The transfers would be a bit slower than right now, about 33% |
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| 09:26:20 | linuxstb_ | Casainho: You write code, create patches, put them on the patch tracker, and if they are OK, then developers with SVN access will commit them. After a while you may be invited to get SVN access yourself so you can commit changes directly. |
| 09:27:12 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Does your viewport fix in the 2bit-vi driver fix the colour issue you reported in lists on the X5 remote? |
| 09:28:30 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:29:04 | Casainho | linuxstb_: okok, thanks. I just have one question about - I will be working on a port that just me and other developer have the hardware, none of us have SVN access, so, how will someone with SVN access test the code? |
| 09:30:02 | linuxstb_ | Casainho: They can't. But they can read the code, and make sure it complies with the coding guidelines, and that it looks OK. |
| 09:30:43 | Casainho | linuxstb_: okok, seems ok to me :-) :-) - thank you :-) |
| 09:30:53 | linuxstb_ | But people working on new ports are normally given SVN access quite quickly, once they show their code is OK. |
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| 09:37:27 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Around? |
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| 09:38:24 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Could you move this file to the download server? http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/e200rpatcher.dmg -> http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200r-patcher/ |
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| 09:54:32 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: How big is your ipod 1st gen disk? Someone in the forum is looking for a "4.5ish GB" MBR to convert a HFS ipod. |
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| 10:48:13 | amiconn | linuxstb: 10GB, taken from my extra 2nd Gen. The original 5GB disk was broken. |
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| 10:51:07 | linuxstb | amiconn: OK, thanks anyway. |
| 10:53:13 | * | gevaerts just installed rockbox on his new h320 |
| 10:54:05 | markun | gevaerts: are you buying all supported rockbox targets? |
| 10:54:39 | gevaerts | I'm going to slow down now ;) |
| 10:54:51 | markun | which do you have now? |
| 10:55:23 | gevaerts | sansa c250, ipod 5G 30GB, gigabeat f20 and h320 |
| 10:55:57 | markun | and soon a Meizu M6 to help with the port? ;) |
| 10:56:25 | Bagderr | anyone seen if the sansa fuze is another ams ? |
| 10:58:15 | * | amiconn would be more interested in the Sansa express |
| 10:58:38 | Bagderr | is that even around still? |
| 10:58:43 | gevaerts | markun: is that this one : http://www.mp3shop.be/product/32594/dane-elec-meizu-miniplayer-4-gb-black.html ? |
| 10:59:08 | markun | gevaerts: yes |
| 10:59:51 | * | gevaerts is tempted |
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| 11:00:17 | markun | The firmware supports many codecs and is MCS, so the need for rockbox is actually not so big |
| 11:00:41 | markun | gevaerts: the M6SP is a bit different inside and would also be nice to support |
| 11:00:57 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MeizuM6Port |
| 11:01:04 | markun | eh. SL |
| 11:01:10 | markun | the one you linked to is the SP |
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| 11:01:19 | JdGordon | got a min? |
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| 11:03:18 | markun | gevaerts: I don't have my Meizu yet, but I feer the UDA1380 will be as noisy as the one in my iriver h120 |
| 11:05:03 | Bagderr | JdGordon: not right now, no... |
| 11:05:16 | JdGordon | ok |
| 11:05:48 | gevaerts | markun: Which one will you get ? Is it easy to get a SL (and how do you see the difference) ? It probably makes some sense to buy different ones to be able to do the port to both. |
| 11:06:21 | markun | mine is the SP, which is 10mm thick. The SL only 7. |
| 11:06:36 | markun | I think that's the most obvious physical difference |
| 11:07:13 | * | gevaerts guesses there will be differences in weight and battery life. |
| 11:07:15 | markun | but I don't think that Dane-Elec sells the SL version here. |
| 11:14:30 | * | Bagderr might get involved in a work project based on an at91sam9 mcu |
| 11:14:43 | Bagderr | quite similar to the "rockbox player" one |
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| 11:21:58 | linuxstb | Bagderr: When you have a moment, could you move this file to the download server? http://download.barrywardell.net/rockbox/e200rpatcher.dmg -> http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200r-patcher/ |
| 11:22:30 | Bagderr | right, I'll get it done in a few hours |
| 11:24:12 | linuxstb | Thanks |
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| 11:32:33 | JdGordon | Bagderr: you want me to email you the info instead of waiting around in irc? |
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| 11:35:19 | Bagderr | JdGordon: yes please do! |
| 11:35:28 | JdGordon | righto |
| 11:57:29 | * | JdGordon wonders if anyone would mind me breaking the silence with some dev talk :p |
| 11:57:32 | JdGordon | linuxstb: you round? |
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| 13:03:10 | Bagder | JdGordon: should we still limit builds on your hosts to sdl (ie no uploads) ? |
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| 13:22:27 | scev0la | Hello everybody! |
| 13:23:15 | scev0la | can someone tell me, what's current progress on decrypting E10 firmware? |
| 13:24:03 | Bagder | there's no "current" there I think |
| 13:24:38 | scev0la | i've read this^ |
| 13:24:40 | scev0la | −− OlleBergkvist - 11 May 2007: I have tried the ifp_decode program, and it seems to success on my E10 firmware ver 1.04. I have a lot of promising text strings in the decrypted file. |
| 13:25:09 | Bagder | 11 May 2007 is hardly current |
| 13:25:29 | scev0la | but it seems to me that ifp and e10 firmwares are _very_ different in structure |
| 13:26:09 | scev0la | exactly! that's why I'm asking.. |
| 13:26:54 | Bagder | and I answered |
| 13:27:47 | scev0la | too bad |
| 13:27:53 | Bagder | there just doesn't seem to be anyone interested in working on the e10 |
| 13:28:16 | scev0la | well I am :) |
| 13:28:38 | markun | scev0la: we're working on a port for the Meizu M6 which has the same CPU has the E10 |
| 13:28:54 | Bagder | scev0la: then get into it, and invite e10 friends to help out |
| 13:28:56 | markun | I'll take a look to see if the firmwares are similar as well |
| 13:29:07 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverE10Info |
| 13:29:47 | scev0la | Bagder: been there already |
| 13:30:37 | markun | scev0la: the strings are very similar to the Meizu firmware, which is based on the demo firmware by Samsung which uses uCos/II |
| 13:31:17 | markun | scev0la: do you know if there is an option to enter DFU firmware recovery mode in the E10? |
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| 13:32:13 | scev0la | <markun> : no.. just wanted to ask, is there any other way to upload any ARM code into E10 |
| 13:32:50 | markun | well, there is for the Meizu: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MeizuM6Port#Recovery_mode |
| 13:34:27 | markun | I think it's part of the Samsung demo firmware, so it could be available in the E10 as well |
| 13:34:33 | markun | just need to find the right key combo :) |
| 13:35:56 | scev0la | I'll try some fancy combos right now |
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| 13:42:13 | markun | scev0la: one of the strings from the E10 firmware: "Emergency USB" :) |
| 13:42:55 | scev0la | <markun> : yeah, I know, I've seen screenshots somewhere on the net |
| 13:43:34 | markun | seems to happen after a bad firmware update.. |
| 13:44:00 | markun | not sure if that's DFU mode though |
| 13:44:04 | scev0la | or some kind of internal error |
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| 13:47:57 | scev0la | no luck yet |
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| 14:22:20 | Buschel | gevaerts: just found 3 possibly interesting voltages which are also off by default. (1. was DCDEC1), 2. LPREGC1 (off by default, pre-configured to 3.1V), 3. GPO0, 4. GPO1 (both GPO's are set via GPOC1). |
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| 14:24:50 | Buschel | GPO's can be switched on like this: GPOC1 = 0x07 (GPO0 = on) or GPOC1 = 0x70 (GPO1 = on). If set to "on" both GPO's output the voltage IOVDD which is set via IOREGC (by default configured to 3.3V) |
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| 14:26:02 | * | gevaerts opens pcf50605.c to try |
| 14:26:10 | Buschel | LPREGC1 and GPOC1 are "s"-type, so need to be resetted by battery disconnect |
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| 14:44:26 | gevaerts | Buschel: those don't seem to make a difference. I also tried setting D1REGC1 and D3REGC1 to their default values () |
| 14:45:09 | gevaerts | (I think the EDM leaves those at default, from my measurements), but no difference there either |
| 14:46:44 | Buschel | all 4 ones do not make any difference? disappointing :/ |
| 14:48:26 | gevaerts | I haven't tried them all at the same time yet. I did D1REGC1+D3REGC1 at lunchtime, and GPOC1=0x77+LPREGC1 now. I'll try combining everything tonight |
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| 14:52:53 | Buschel | I am starting to think that it may not be solved through PCF-configuration... |
| 14:54:08 | gevaerts | Yes. It looks like someone with fluent arm-reading skills will have to go through the/an OF |
| 14:55:54 | * | gevaerts hoped to avoid that. Those people are aleady overloaded |
| 14:56:27 | * | amiconn already digged in the diskmode code, and found nothing obvious |
| 14:57:38 | Buschel | no changes in the PP's GPIO/GPO32? |
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| 15:00:17 | gevaerts | Is it known how fast the CPU is clocked while connected ? I still have lots of problems (also known as "it doesn't work") if I take out the boosting. There could be a connection with that as well. |
| 15:00:52 | gevaerts | s/clocked/clocked in the OF/ |
| 15:02:38 | Buschel | gevearts: a few days ago you've asked for the 60MHz configuration. could you test it? |
| 15:08:34 | gevaerts | Buschel: I did try to test it, and it didn't work, but maybe I did something wrong |
| 15:09:46 | Buschel | gevaerts: the target didn't start at all, or the USB didn't work with it? |
| 15:10:02 | gevaerts | USB didn't work properly |
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| 15:45:16 | markun | is the Cowon D2 firmware encrypted? |
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| 15:47:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: Haven't heard anything of it being encrypted. |
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| 15:47:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wonders if shotofadds knows anything about that |
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| 15:50:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: According to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonD2Info#Firmware_Upgrade, the Telchips firmware is in a standard Telechips "Dual-CRC" format. |
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| 15:50:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | More here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TelechipsInfo |
| 15:50:40 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: I was hoping the clix2 firmware was encrypted the same way |
| 15:50:48 | markun | so it isn't |
| 15:57:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: shotofadds just confirmed on the CowonD2Info page that the firmware files are unencrypted. |
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| 16:00:27 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: ok, too bad then |
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| 16:07:28 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: the clix2 has a nice amoled screen |
| 16:09:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oooh... nice! :) |
| 16:10:24 | * | LambdaCalculus37 sees that the Clix2 wiki page is very bare |
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| 16:44:41 | * | gevaerts notes that lwn talked a bit about rockbox yesterday. Subscriber only for now, it should be generally avaliable in a week or so |
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| 16:53:32 | gevaerts | "Your editor, meanwhile, still lugs around his ancient iRiver H340. People look at it strangely, as if they expect there to be a hatch on the back so that the user can occasionally add another shovel full of coal. But it works beautifully with Rockbox" |
| 16:53:56 | Nico_P | gevaerts: what article is that in? |
| 16:54:03 | Nico_P | the weekly edition? |
| 16:54:51 | gevaerts | Yes. In the "Front" section. The bit about MP3 players |
| 16:55:28 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes to read it |
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| 18:58:23 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Do you have any ideas about the problems this person is having with his 1st gen ipod? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15929.0 (scroll down to his later comments) |
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| 19:18:19 | disorganizer | hi, i ve got a problem with the latest rev of rockbox: when running the sim (sansae200) and then select a mp3 file, i get a segfault. gdb says: cannot find user-level thread for LWP 27457: noLWP to satisfy query. before that it says "open the real file 'archos/.rockbox/database_idx.tcd' |
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| 19:20:36 | disorganizer | oh, and it doesnt matter which file it tires to open. it also happens when the last file opened is a mp3 |
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| 19:37:32 | amiconn | linuxstb: I can't tell much without having access to such a unit |
| 19:38:07 | amiconn | However, there are several hardware revisions of the 1st Gen, maybe that one needs a different default contrast, and/or different voltage calibration |
| 19:38:58 | amiconn | It probably makes sense to disable low-bat shutdown for 1st/2nd Gen until we have proper suspend. An endless reboot cycle does certainly no good when the battery is low... |
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| 19:40:12 | amiconn | My 1st Gen is a 0x00010001 |
| 19:42:27 | ryran | gevaerts still here? |
| 19:43:00 | bblack | disorganizer: compiling right now to check |
| 19:44:24 | gevaerts | ryran: yes. (And yes, I now about the boosting...) |
| 19:44:44 | ryran | ah wow. |
| 19:44:46 | ryran | nice. ;) |
| 19:46:19 | gevaerts | It currently seems to be needed to make high speed work. I'll do some experiments tonight to see if it's needed for full speed (which is all we need for charging), and if not, disable it for that case. |
| 19:46:44 | gevaerts | s/now/know/ two lines up... |
| 19:47:00 | bblack | disorganizer: it works fine here; maybe you can tell us more so we can reproduce it |
| 19:47:59 | ryran | hehe. no spell nazis here. I figured you were aware .. I just wanted to make sure since I hadn't seen any mention of it anywhere yet. good to know. |
| 19:48:13 | disorganizer | @ bblack : working with the vmware dev-image . |
| 19:48:25 | amiconn | gevaerts: Is it possible for an usb connection to switch between highspeed and fullspeed on the fly? |
| 19:48:32 | disorganizer | @ bblack: i try downloading a fresh copy now to ensure my svn isnt corrupted. stay tuned |
| 19:50:12 | gevaerts | amiconn: not while staying connected. You'd have to disconnect and re-enumerate. Is it the boosting you're worried about ? |
| 19:50:38 | amiconn | I'm not worried about it, but it seems like a waste if we're just charging |
| 19:52:57 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, I have a theory about the PP5002 crashes when going to sleep at xxxxxx0 |
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| 19:53:59 | quaal | where is this update now option for the database |
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| 19:54:04 | quaal | manual just says to do it but doesnt say where |
| 19:54:30 | amiconn | It's in 2 places. The more convenient one is the database's context menu |
| 19:54:59 | gevaerts | I agree. If I remember correctly (it's a few weeks ago) without boosting short usb packets do actually work, but full 512-byte packets don't. If this is true (and reliable) we only would need boosting during actual usb-storage activity (i.e. once you "eject" the drive we can unboost). Testing this _might_ give some clues about the other problem as well (i.e. do we need boosting for both directions?) |
| 19:55:01 | quaal | i guess that isnt in "database" from the main menu |
| 19:55:43 | linuxstb_ | quaal: What device are you running Rockbox on? |
| 19:55:54 | quaal | linuxstb, ipood video |
| 19:56:05 | amiconn | gevaerts: Actually, the other problem might be what makes highspeed not work when not boosted |
| 19:56:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: I just disabled low-bat shutdown for 1st/2nd Gen |
| 19:56:37 | linuxstb_ | quaal: Then press and hold the select (centre) button on the Database option in the main menu. |
| 19:56:49 | quaal | oh. |
| 19:56:52 | quaal | thanks |
| 19:57:02 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Sounds sensible. So you think (know?) that the different 1g ipods have different hw revision numbers? |
| 19:57:13 | gevaerts | amiconn: Indeed. That's why I asked earlier if someone knows at what CPU speed the OF runs wile connected |
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| 19:59:46 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes. The ROM code sometimes checks for the various hardware revisions explicitly. Iirc, there are at least 0x00010001, 0x00010002 and 0x00010003 |
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| 20:00:07 | linuxstb_ | Does the diag mode show that? |
| 20:00:19 | amiconn | umm, lemme check |
| 20:02:49 | quaal | uhh |
| 20:02:51 | quaal | rockbox just froze |
| 20:03:03 | quaal | god damn |
| 20:03:17 | quaal | this is alot of bullshit just to have a device that acts like a removable drive |
| 20:03:25 | quaal | i hate apple |
| 20:03:48 | amiconn | Bah, jdgordon.info seems to be broken |
| 20:04:20 | amiconn | linuxstb: I can't find the HW revision in diag |
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| 20:04:33 | amiconn | Rockbox shows it though, under "View HW Info" |
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| 20:10:01 | amiconn | linuxstb: Umm, make those revisions 0x00010000, 0x00010001 and 0x00010002 |
| 20:10:25 | amiconn | (i.e. the c in 'iirc' didn't apply) |
| 20:10:32 | quaal | is there no easy way to just play a directory |
| 20:10:41 | quaal | it keeps taking me to the current playlist |
| 20:10:44 | quaal | instead of just playing it |
| 20:10:46 | quaal | when i press play |
| 20:11:18 | Domonoky | quaal: long press on the directory, to get the contex menu.. the choose insert.. |
| 20:11:30 | disorganizer | @ bblack : i downloaded a fresh copy and its there again. |
| 20:11:51 | Domonoky | or enter the dir, and play the first track (which will make a playlist out of all tracks in the dir) |
| 20:12:02 | disorganizer | @ bblack : what i did was: downloaded fresh copy on the vmware dev-system, then /tools/configure 50 s, then make, make install |
| 20:12:29 | bblack | disorganizer: then?? |
| 20:12:35 | linuxstb_ | quaal: If you just press select on any file in a directory, Rockbox will create a playlist containing all tracks in that directory and start playing it. The "play" button is "resume playback"... |
| 20:12:36 | disorganizer | @ bblack : then i copied a mp3 dir to the archos directory, then started rockboxui, then selected a file from the mp3-dir, then segfault |
| 20:12:58 | quaal | linuxstb, in the files menu? |
| 20:13:15 | quaal | i put some audiobooks in the "audiobooks" directory i created |
| 20:13:21 | quaal | apparently the database didnt find them |
| 20:13:22 | linuxstb_ | quaal: Yes. |
| 20:13:43 | disorganizer | yes, files, IPK/Time to ignite/Itchy Poopzkid - Time to ignite.mp3 :-) |
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| 20:13:55 | quaal | linuxstb, if i press select on the directory it goes into the directory |
| 20:14:12 | linuxstb_ | quaal: Re-read my message... |
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| 20:14:43 | bblack | disorganizer: works here, maybe it's something with that specific mp3 |
| 20:15:05 | disorganizer | i also tried to delete the aa, so it really seems to be the mp3. checking now |
| 20:16:13 | quaal | linuxstb, ok thanks |
| 20:16:46 | disorganizer | @ bblack : tried another mp3, same |
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| 20:17:23 | disorganizer | @ bblack : and all the mp3's i tried now are working on older copies of rb (and were used for testing for the last weeks without problems). |
| 20:17:35 | disorganizer | could it be that my dev-system is somehow corrupted |
| 20:17:39 | disorganizer | ? |
| 20:18:19 | Domonoky | disorganizer: i would suspect that it crashes everytime you play anything, ie its your soundsystem in the vmware install .. :-) |
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| 20:19:00 | disorganizer | @ Domonoky : good point. checking |
| 20:19:05 | quaal | also is there any way to make it so that i dont have to hold down the play button for 10 seconds |
| 20:19:08 | quaal | to turn the ipood off |
| 20:19:19 | quaal | 2 or 3 seconds is sufficient |
| 20:19:46 | Domonoky | quaal: normal long play is stop on ipods i think... |
| 20:20:03 | linuxstb_ | It should only be 2 or 3 seconds... You can let go as soon as you see the "shutting down" message. |
| 20:20:26 | quaal | yea, it takes like 8+ seconds |
| 20:23:12 | disorganizer | @ bblack , @ Domonoky : guess what it was |
| 20:24:23 | * | disorganizer accidentially deleted the virtual soundcard in the vm |
| 20:24:58 | disorganizer | propably someone should add a check in rockboxui and just give an error or just shut up if no soundcard exists :-) |
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| 20:54:57 | disorganizer | nite@all, and tnx @ bblack and Domonoky for the hints and help |
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| 20:59:51 | gevaerts | It seems that jdgordon's mac is now the fastest build server. Zero seconds per build ! (a pity that they fail though) |
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| 21:00:13 | scorche|sh | eh...its a mac mini...what do you expect? :P |
| 21:02:03 | * | gevaerts can't find a good answer to that |
| 21:02:38 | Horscht | i expect _DS.STORE Files |
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| 21:08:13 | gevaerts | It seems that boosting is needed for USB to work in both directions. |
| 21:08:54 | * | gevaerts hopes that the gigabeat S people will find out how to enable USB soon. That would provide lots of useful data |
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| 21:15:36 | Gnelik | Hi |
| 21:16:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:16:16 | Gnelik | Sansa e250,yesterdays build, mp3, 180-260bps |
| 21:16:25 | Gnelik | when changing track |
| 21:16:37 | Gnelik | several times |
| 21:16:48 | Gnelik | name in wps changes |
| 21:16:55 | * | bluebrother knows now when, but what? |
| 21:17:24 | Gnelik | but it continue to play previous track |
| 21:17:39 | Gnelik | pause - resume helps |
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| 21:18:02 | Gnelik | Any thoughts |
| 21:18:04 | Gnelik | ? |
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| 21:18:14 | Beta2K | FlySpray it? |
| 21:18:51 | Gnelik | good one |
| 21:18:51 | Gnelik | ) |
| 21:19:53 | krazykit | Gnelik: try the current build and see if the issue persists. |
| 21:20:18 | Gnelik | i have this isue for 2 or 3 month |
| 21:20:34 | Gnelik | dont think that something changed |
| 21:20:38 | Gnelik | yesterday |
| 21:22:59 | krazykit | if you're going to file a bug report, the rules state you need to test the absolute latest build. |
| 21:25:22 | bluebrother | also, you should check if there already is a task open about this. |
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| 21:28:39 | toffe82 | Beta2K: I had a quic look at the schematic, looks nice |
| 21:30:44 | toffe82 | Can I suggest to things : include a print odf a connector identical to the one of the gigabeat so if we found the connector we can use a flat cable to connect the two, you can include also a complete jtag, it is just a buffer and some resistor |
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| 21:34:02 | rocko | my ipod doesn't turn on anymore :( |
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| 21:34:37 | rocko | wait.. now it says it's charging.. |
| 21:34:59 | bluebrother | reset it. |
| 21:35:15 | bluebrother | and / or give it a large charge. Preferrably using a wall charger. |
| 21:36:02 | Beta2K | toffe82, Ok, it currently is pinned the same as the Gigabeat connector |
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| 21:36:14 | Beta2K | Tho different pitch |
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| 21:37:03 | Beta2K | Do you have a site that details what to include for JTAG buffering? |
| 21:38:38 | rocko | oh no :( |
| 21:38:42 | Beta2K | ? |
| 21:38:47 | rocko | when it turns on now, it's an ipod with x's for eyes |
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| 21:41:23 | bluebrother | rocko: reset it. |
| 21:41:37 | low_light | gevaerts: looking through the c200 disassembly, here's an interesting init sequence involving registers 0x70000028 and 0x70000060: http://rafb.net/p/sRn5GD20.html |
| 21:41:45 | bluebrother | and charge it for quite a while. Ipod batteries can discharge quite a bit |
| 21:41:52 | low_light | of course, I don't know what they are for ;) |
| 21:43:46 | gevaerts | low_light: magic of course ;) |
| 21:45:00 | amiconn | low_light: I know this sequence from the mini's diskmode |
| 21:45:09 | amiconn | It didn't help in my experiment |
| 21:46:24 | amiconn | magic values aren#t uncommon when dealing with portalplayer |
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| 21:48:37 | amiconn | There's e.g. one to unlock clock frequencies >66MHz on PP5002 and PP5020: Write 0xd19b to a certain register (different register between PP5002 and PP5020, but same value). This was removed in PP5022 and higher |
| 21:49:16 | rocko | it's the same thing bluebrother :( |
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| 21:51:32 | * | amiconn tried his idea to further reduce remote LCD ticking on H1x0 |
| 21:51:42 | amiconn | It actually did the opposite... |
| 21:52:04 | gevaerts | So try the opposite ;) |
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| 21:54:03 | toffe82 | Beta2K: here the jtag dongle : http://www.aesop-embedded.org/download.html |
| 21:54:38 | gevaerts | low_light: I'll try this sequence again just to be sure. I also have to try my C translation of the c200 sd dma code you put on FS... Not tonight though, I have to go in a few minutes |
| 21:55:12 | bluebrother | rocko: charge it. I saw various "contact apple" screens on my mini, and in all cases it was possible recovering by a long charge and a reset sequence. |
| 21:56:05 | xa0ce | Is there anyone here working on the rockbox for gigabeat t-series? I noticed there pics of the hardware up for it |
| 21:56:15 | bluebrother | and long charge means really long. At least overnight. |
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| 21:57:55 | Bagder | JdGordon|zzz: your mac server doesn't seem to like to build sims... |
| 21:58:16 | * | Bagder disables that |
| 21:58:55 | toffe82 | xa0ce: I take the picture |
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| 22:00:28 | markun | toffe82: can you find out if the same trick to get code running on the Gigabeat S also works on the T? |
| 22:00:35 | markun | the hardware is very similar, right? |
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| 22:00:42 | toffe82 | xa0ce: there is no firmware available, I saw on the japanese site that they update by return to factory (for the t401) |
| 22:02:26 | toffe82 | markun: it is the same hardware except for the usb |
| 22:02:50 | linuxstb_ | markun: I read your comments about the Clix2 earlier - I would expect it to be hackable, even without cracking the OF encryption, _if_ there is an easy way to enter USB boot mode. |
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| 22:03:22 | markun | linuxstb_: some feature of the telechips? |
| 22:03:55 | xa0ce | toffe82: what do you mean the update by return to the factory? if we return our t400 they will give us t401?! |
| 22:04:54 | linuxstb_ | Yes, the telechips can either boot via USB (a recovery mode, but also very useful for development), or it boots by reading the firmware from NAND or NOR flash. This is a feature of a 4KB boot ROM in the telechips, so I doubt iriver have changed it - i.e. the firmware will be unencrypted in the NAND flash so it can be booted. |
| 22:05:44 | linuxstb_ | linuxstb_: As it has the same CPU as the D2, once the flash driver and USB is working, we could upload code that read the firmware from flash and transferred it via USB (and vice-versa). |
| 22:06:15 | * | linuxstb_ wonders why he said that to himself... |
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| 22:06:37 | toffe82 | xa0ce: no it is only for an update of the t401 |
| 22:07:38 | xa0ce | toffe82: oh, ok. well, what is next for getting rockbox onto t400? |
| 22:08:20 | toffe82 | find the firmware or a way to dump it |
| 22:08:50 | xa0ce | the current firmware? |
| 22:08:54 | xa0ce | that is already on it? |
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| 22:09:33 | * | shotofadds thinks about giving up on the D2 internal flash entirely and booting off the SD card :/ |
| 22:09:57 | toffe82 | xa0ce: yes |
| 22:10:11 | toffe82 | or if you find it somewhere else :) |
| 22:10:44 | xa0ce | ok I will look around for it... maybe we will get lucky and find it soon... |
| 22:11:09 | linuxstb_ | shotofadds: How about trying to get USB working - so you can transfer an image of the flash to your PC? |
| 22:11:15 | Beta2K | toffe82, so you want the breakout to be the JTAG interface as well, not just bring the pins out for a seperate JTAG dongle? |
| 22:11:53 | toffe82 | you can let the connector also so if somebody as a faster jtag interface he can use it |
| 22:12:17 | Beta2K | Hum, guess I could do that |
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| 22:12:45 | shotofadds | linuxstb: I don't know how much that will help. My problem is understanding why the OF sometimes decides to make the Logical->Physical translation table point to junk :( |
| 22:12:55 | toffe82 | it is just if somebody want it, there is already everything to use it , if not you have to buy a jtag cable |
| 22:13:26 | shotofadds | I'm getting reasonably good results by scanning the banks on startup and building a translation table myself - but not 100% |
| 22:14:14 | Beta2K | Welp I'll toss that together then :) |
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| 22:15:52 | shotofadds | eg. the bootloader can boot a rockbox.iaudio image from flash (and display the main menu now...) but sometimes it'll give a Bad Checksum error unless you boot the OF first to sort things out.. |
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| 22:16:48 | toffe82 | Beta2K: when I load the file it say it is missing the max-8.lib |
| 22:18:23 | toffe82 | I have a standard install of kicad, no special library installed |
| 22:19:02 | toffe82 | Beta2K: do you plan to build it yourself or find some company to make the circuit ? |
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| 22:25:20 | sokit | Is there any work been done towards hardware compatibility with iPod Nano 2nd and 3rd gen? |
| 22:26:38 | Bagder | sokit: nope |
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| 22:26:51 | jac0b | if anyone can help me out I am trying to mod my gigabeat from a 40GB thick drive to a thin 30GB but I have run into some trouble |
| 22:27:12 | sokit | Any reason or just lack of devs with hardware? I was under the impression there is some crypto preventing 3rd party firmware on the 2nd gen. |
| 22:27:53 | jac0b | does anyone if at bootup the gigabeat check the drive size to be correct? |
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| 22:29:31 | sokit | thanks anyway.. night. |
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| 22:29:50 | linuxstb_ | jac0b: Nothing (either running our own code, or disassembling the Apple firmware to work out how the undocumented hardware works) can be done until the crypto is cracked. |
| 22:29:59 | linuxstb_ | Argh, that was for the person who just left... |
| 22:30:21 | linuxstb_ | jac0b: What do you mean by "the gigabeat" and "correct" ? |
| 22:32:48 | jac0b | gigabeat f series |
| 22:34:00 | Beta2K | toffe82, yes it should complain. Did the component show up anyways? It should have been contained in the .cache file |
| 22:34:21 | toffe82 | hold on |
| 22:34:59 | jac0b | what I did was find a 30gb that is compatible with the gigabeat connections wise but when I connect it I get the "system error 00000020" error |
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| 22:35:33 | linuxstb_ | jac0b: How did you prepare the disk? Did you partition it (creating a single partition), format it as FAT32, then copy a GBSYSTEM folder to it? |
| 22:35:48 | toffe82 | Beta2K: yes it shows up , it is the max 233 ? or there is anothe one ? |
| 22:35:57 | Beta2K | the MAX233 |
| 22:36:24 | jac0b | I even used the gigabeat format tool |
| 22:36:25 | jac0b | no luck |
| 22:36:33 | jac0b | that is why I came in here to see if anyone had any insight on this |
| 22:37:12 | toffe82 | jac0b: what is the problem exactly, it doens't boot , there is something on the screen ? |
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| 22:38:20 | jac0b | it gets about a quater of the way on the boot process then gives me the error "system error 00000020" |
| 22:38:23 | jac0b | but if I do the gigabeat surgery I can access the drive fine |
| 22:39:24 | toffe82 | you boot with the original firmware ? |
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| 22:46:56 | jac0b | how do I create a fat32 partition in ubuntu |
| 22:48:49 | jac0b | nm I will do it on windows |
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| 22:54:26 | toffe82 | the gbsystem you install is the same version as the one of the old drive ? |
| 22:54:59 | toffe82 | try here : http://www.mygigabeat.com/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=60C59AFD-3048-2906-EA564236B271D94E |
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| 22:59:08 | kkurbjun | Beta2K: what schematics are you working on? |
| 22:59:29 | markun | jac0b: or try the dummy gbsystem |
| 22:59:30 | Beta2K | A breakout for the Gigabeat debug connector |
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| 22:59:57 | kkurbjun | how do you mean by a breakout? Like a level translator? |
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| 23:00:18 | Beta2K | Currently it has a max233 for level shift and brings the JTAG to a standard 20pin connector |
| 23:00:26 | jac0b | markun: whats the dummy gbsystem |
| 23:00:37 | Beta2K | toffe82 has sujested including a simple parallel JTAG interface as well |
| 23:00:46 | kkurbjun | oh, gotcha |
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| 23:01:00 | Beta2K | that's what I'm adding now |
| 23:01:08 | markun | jac0b: this one: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/GigabeatFXPort/GBSYSTEM.zip |
| 23:01:18 | markun | you also need http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/gigabeat/FWIMG01.DAT |
| 23:01:19 | Beta2K | You can find the current one @ http://cerberus.drazof.com/~beta/RS232.zip |
| 23:01:23 | markun | it only works with rockbox |
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| 23:01:45 | kkurbjun | when you say a standard 20 pin connector, are you talking about the typical connector on arm debugging interfaces? |
| 23:02:07 | Beta2K | Yesum |
| 23:02:40 | kkurbjun | cool, have you hooked your gigabeat up to jtag as well then? |
| 23:02:48 | Beta2K | Not yet |
| 23:03:11 | Beta2K | Was going to design this and either photo-etch it or protoboard it |
| 23:03:34 | Beta2K | Still trying to decide how to get a connector in there :) |
| 23:03:51 | kkurbjun | :), a floppy ribbon cable works pretty well |
| 23:03:55 | Beta2K | I've got some 2mm pitch stuff I think might fit |
| 23:03:58 | kkurbjun | but you don't get a conenctor |
| 23:04:15 | kkurbjun | I just solder some solid strands to the end of it and used flying leads |
| 23:04:51 | Beta2K | That's my normal course as well :) |
| 23:05:09 | Beta2K | Though I'd better do it "right" |
| 23:05:16 | kkurbjun | it works well, but you can't use the gigabeat very well as a portable player |
| 23:05:19 | kkurbjun | :) |
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| 23:06:00 | Beta2K | I like the portable bit |
| 23:06:24 | kkurbjun | yeah, I can understand that - I am just using a gigabeat that was /broken/ |
| 23:06:29 | kkurbjun | from ebay |
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| 23:06:46 | kkurbjun | where are you going to add the connector? |
| 23:07:01 | kkurbjun | I mean, on the side of the player, on the top? |
| 23:07:11 | Beta2K | I think inside under the LCD |
| 23:07:22 | toffe82 | if someone find a zif connector low profile to fit in, after you don't have any problem |
| 23:07:25 | Beta2K | I think the connector I have (female side) will be small enough |
| 23:07:33 | toffe82 | I tried but didn't find it yet |
| 23:07:47 | kkurbjun | oh, so you will have to open the player everytime you want to connect to it? |
| 23:07:56 | Beta2K | Just put a small bit of flat wire from teh board to the connector and bury it under the LCD |
| 23:07:57 | Beta2K | Yeah |
| 23:08:01 | Beta2K | That's my plan so far |
| 23:08:03 | toffe82 | yes |
| 23:08:08 | kkurbjun | gotcha |
| 23:08:19 | kkurbjun | you can get a flat cable out to the side pretty cleanly |
| 23:08:19 | Beta2K | That or find 10 unused pins on the dock connector... |
| 23:08:33 | toffe82 | no way |
| 23:09:26 | Beta2K | Pesimist :) |
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| 23:09:30 | kkurbjun | the one I have is sealed, but there is a ribbon cable hanging out the side of it, so you /could/ use it protably, but you would have to wrap the ends of the ribbon cable |
| 23:09:37 | toffe82 | look the pinout ;) |
| 23:10:00 | kkurbjun | or you could not wrap them and risk shorting it out :P |
| 23:10:35 | jac0b | markun: YOU ARE THE FU*KIN MAN |
| 23:10:45 | jac0b | that worked |
| 23:11:18 | jac0b | markun: i bow at your feet sir |
| 23:11:23 | jac0b | :) |
| 23:12:13 | Beta2K | I just did :) |
| 23:12:29 | Beta2K | Guess I could do some non-standard surgury, but neah. |
| 23:12:32 | markun | jac0b: thanks :) |
| 23:13:18 | toffe82 | I was thinking of a flat cable and zif connector like the hard drive so you take it off as you want |
| 23:14:21 | toffe82 | or adding a connector on the case but it is difficult to find a 10 pin miniature connector |
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| 23:15:27 | bluebrother | hmm, what do people think about FS #8504? IMO this would be some kind of customizable main menu and should thus get closed |
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| 23:17:24 | Beta2K | toffe82, I have 10-pin 2mm SIP connectors from Digikey |
| 23:17:33 | DefineByte | Well, it doesn't really change stuff that's already there. Just adds things |
| 23:17:35 | toffe82 | link ? |
| 23:17:36 | DefineByte | dunno |
| 23:17:43 | Beta2K | One sec... |
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| 23:18:46 | Llorean | linuxstb: The forum allows .bin attachments. *please* don't encourage people to rename files to get past the attachment restrictions. If there's one that's needed and not supported, it can always be added. |
| 23:18:56 | DefineByte | does patch fs#8715 look alright or is it a bit too monolithic? :) |
| 23:19:32 | DefineByte | or just plain bad. x) |
| 23:19:35 | Beta2K | Crap I'm not sure toffe82, I left the bag at work |
| 23:19:41 | toffe82 | :) |
| 23:19:46 | toffe82 | tomorrow |
| 23:22:29 | DefineByte | Can you look at fs#8715 bluebrother (if you haven't already and you have the time)? |
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| 23:37:01 | Beta2K | toffe82 / kkurbjun, is nRESET TRST? |
| 23:37:11 | Beta2K | or is nRESET a CPU reset? |
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| 23:38:01 | bluebrother | Beta2K: though I don't know the Gigabeat I'd say it's cpu reset |
| 23:38:16 | Beta2K | My assumption as well |
| 23:40:56 | kkurbjun | nReset is a cpu reset alone |
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| 23:41:13 | kkurbjun | I think the sRST is a jtag chain and cpu reset |
| 23:41:22 | kkurbjun | I might have it backwards though |
| 23:41:30 | kkurbjun | you don't need the pins to do debug work |
| 23:43:03 | toffe82 | Beta2K: I sent you my work on the tracing of the gigabeat so you have more information |
| 23:43:54 | kkurbjun | oh, you were asking if it's the pin |
| 23:44:07 | kkurbjun | :-D |
| 23:44:30 | kkurbjun | there's some logic attached to those pins |
| 23:45:11 | kkurbjun | I've played around with it on hardware and one works as a reset that I can stay conencted to OpenOCD |
| 23:45:19 | kkurbjun | the other one disconnects it from openocd |
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| 23:47:20 | Tuxguy | Can someone tell me the size ratio for converting avi to mpeg for ipod nano ? |
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| 23:47:24 | kkurbjun | pin 5 on the connector should be NRESET |
| 23:47:33 | kkurbjun | and I think pin 2 is SRST |
| 23:47:38 | toffe82 | Beta2K: did you recieve my mail ? |
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| 23:48:09 | bluebrother | Tuxguy: check the PluginMpegplayer wiki page |
| 23:48:29 | toffe82 | kkurbjun: did I sent you the file with the wiring ? |
| 23:48:56 | Tuxguy | bluebrother, i cant, im in console only mode :( |
| 23:49:19 | bluebrother | Tuxguy: how about using links / lynx? ;-) |
| 23:49:29 | DefineByte | is it possible to be notified when a particular file is modified on svn? |
| 23:49:46 | kkurbjun | toffe82, I have that openoffice spreadsheet |
| 23:49:53 | kkurbjun | it's been extremely helpfull |
| 23:49:54 | toffe82 | ok |
| 23:50:09 | toffe82 | one day Iwill have the scematics :) |
| 23:51:06 | bluebrother | Tuxguy: Nano is 176x132 screen resolution |
| 23:51:33 | bluebrother | thus use 176x128 or 176x96 |
| 23:51:44 | Tuxguy | ty |
| 23:51:45 | bluebrother | depending if you want 4:3 16:9 |
| 23:51:50 | bluebrother | *or |
| 23:52:11 | Beta2K | Yes I did toffe82, thanks :) |
| 23:52:25 | Beta2K | bbl |
| 23:53:06 | toffe82 | I hope you will understand, it is sometimes a little confusing ;) |
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