| 00:00:48 | r0rshach | anyone have experience with the ZIF to ATA adapters? |
| 00:00:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: From ~/rockbox/build folder, what's the command to compile sendfirm? |
| 00:01:47 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: It is in rockbox/utils/MTP |
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| 00:02:43 | BigBambi | just type make in there (you need to have thinhs like devel packages for libusb installed IIRC) |
| 00:03:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | No wonder it just borked on me. |
| 00:03:27 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes to get the libusb dev packages |
| 00:04:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oops! Forgot libmtp-dev as well... should add that just in case. |
| 00:05:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: So gnomad2 can see the Gigabeat as well? |
| 00:05:41 | BigBambi | yep |
| 00:05:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | I always thought that was meant for Creative devices. |
| 00:05:49 | BigBambi | Originally |
| 00:05:54 | * | markun waves good night |
| 00:05:57 | BigBambi | night |
| 00:06:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: Good night! |
| 00:06:11 | moos | bonne nuit |
| 00:06:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bonne nuit to all... |
| 00:06:54 | markun | moos: a toi aussi :) |
| 00:06:56 | * | LambdaCalculus37 decides to apt-get install gnomad2 |
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| 00:07:42 | moos | markun: merci :) |
| 00:08:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: sendfirm is ready. Now for the bootloader. :) |
| 00:09:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | I need mknkboot as well, right? |
| 00:09:04 | BigBambi | yeah |
| 00:09:26 | BigBambi | You build the bootloader, patch nk.bin with it with mknkboot, then send the resulting file with sendfirm |
| 00:10:01 | BigBambi | mknkboot.c is in rockbox/tools |
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| 00:10:16 | BigBambi | And maybe mknkboot |
| 00:10:35 | BigBambi | I think that gets built for you |
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| 00:10:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | I see mknkboot already built in rockbox/tools. |
| 00:11:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now I need the required nk.bin |
| 00:11:39 | BigBambi | It is in an archive linked from the wiki I think |
| 00:12:43 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: I can send it if you like |
| 00:12:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Sure. |
| 00:12:58 | BigBambi | OK, one mo |
| 00:14:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah great, error on bootloader compile: http://pastebin.com/m13925cc |
| 00:14:28 | BigBambi | Ah, I didn't realise you were using the web client |
| 00:14:55 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: PM |
| 00:15:27 | moos | jhMikeS was asking about people that tried to build current svn bootloader, good spot then? |
| 00:16:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Guess so. |
| 00:16:28 | * | LambdaCalculus37 pokes jhMikeS |
| 00:16:59 | BigBambi | Yeah, I built it a little while ago, but I don't think much has changed since then |
| 00:17:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Actually, let me set my Gigabeat S in recovery mode instead. |
| 00:17:24 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: I'd do it in the OF |
| 00:17:32 | BigBambi | It won't wipe everything that way |
| 00:17:40 | BigBambi | Much cleaner |
| 00:17:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: There's nothing on here yet. |
| 00:17:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's totally empty. |
| 00:18:08 | moos | because his last ADC works regarding the warnings? |
| 00:18:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | But if you say so... :) |
| 00:18:23 | BigBambi | Well, just might as well |
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| 00:20:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's in recovery mode now. |
| 00:21:33 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: Did you see the PM? |
| 00:21:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Yes, getting it now. |
| 00:22:44 | BigBambi | I should have zipped it really |
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| 00:22:49 | BigBambi | oops |
| 00:23:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | Got it. |
| 00:23:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | Sending... |
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| 00:25:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | So now I figure click the battery off, click hold switch, turn battery on, right? |
| 00:26:55 | BigBambi | Have you already copied over the rockbox.tar? |
| 00:27:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah, right... doing now. |
| 00:29:08 | * | LambdaCalculus37 smacks gnomad2 |
| 00:29:39 | BigBambi | You probably need to disconnect then connect again |
| 00:30:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah crap! |
| 00:30:58 | * | LambdaCalculus37 forgot to enable USB in his build |
| 00:31:05 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes back to recompile |
| 00:31:40 | BigBambi | What USB? |
| 00:31:56 | BigBambi | It doesn't work on the beast yet... |
| 00:32:14 | moos | jhMikeS is working on it... |
| 00:32:22 | * | LambdaCalculus37 smacks forehead |
| 00:32:26 | BigBambi | I know, but LambdaCalculus37 can't enable it now |
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| 00:33:59 | RoC_MasterMind | Do people ask about Rockbox on the Zune a lot? |
| 00:34:06 | BigBambi | Periodically |
| 00:34:11 | moos | BigBambi: yup just for inform him... |
| 00:34:32 | BigBambi | moos: :) |
| 00:34:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | What the hell? |
| 00:35:08 | BigBambi | quoi? |
| 00:35:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Never mind... gnomad2 briefly couldn't find any devices on the bus. |
| 00:35:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | I got it now. |
| 00:35:37 | BigBambi | It does that a lot |
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| 00:35:47 | * | BigBambi points at MTP support in linux |
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| 00:36:12 | * | LambdaCalculus37 managed to copy a rockbox.tar to the root of the beast |
| 00:36:29 | r0rshach | what player ya got calc? |
| 00:36:34 | BigBambi | cool, so turn the battery switch off then on, then turn on hold as it starts to boot |
| 00:37:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | r0rshach: Do you reeeeeeealy want to know? |
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| 00:38:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Rockbox is successfully running on my Gigabeast! |
| 00:38:56 | BigBambi | Cool |
| 00:39:06 | BigBambi | Nice sight isn't it :) |
| 00:39:13 | moos | hehe :) |
| 00:40:57 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes for internal fuel sources... dinner |
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| 00:44:10 | Hillshum | well so which flash target is better? |
| 00:45:32 | BigBambi | Hillshum: The one that bears the closest resemblance to the longest piece of string |
| 00:46:00 | BigBambi | Hillshum: It really depends on what you want, although I would take a Sansa over a Nano |
| 00:47:11 | Llorean | I'd give the Nano a slightly higher ranking personally |
| 00:47:20 | Llorean | Doesn't have the noise problem the Sansa has. |
| 00:47:28 | Hillshum | i have a v2, i watch the port thread every day. i might sell it and get a v1 no nano for me i like the radio |
| 00:47:38 | BigBambi | Llorean: True, but whether that bothers you depends on earphones |
| 00:47:54 | BigBambi | And the sansa is storage expandable, has a radio and limited recording |
| 00:48:06 | Llorean | BigBambi: Quite true. It more or less is a clear case of "what you need it for" |
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| 00:48:12 | BigBambi | Indeed so |
| 00:48:52 | scorche|sh | even without the noise, the sansa's SQ is dreadful (imo of course) |
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| 00:49:21 | BigBambi | I do have to admit to not having tried a nano for more than fifteen minutes at this point |
| 00:50:03 | BigBambi | And I don't use my Sansa that much, so take what I say about SQ with a pinch of salt |
| 00:50:19 | Hillshum | SQ? |
| 00:50:31 | BigBambi | Sound Quality |
| 00:51:29 | Hillshum | i like the fact that card slot+replaceable battery+rockbox= long lasting expandable player |
| 00:52:01 | pixelma | sound wise I prefer the OndioFM (which also has a radio, expandable memory and better recording possibilities) ;) of course it doesn't play as many formats |
| 00:52:08 | Hillshum | plus i want tactile controls for blind usage of sansa |
| 00:53:53 | Hillshum | pixelma: i did ask about RB targets, the OF has to be good for me buy one without RB |
| 00:54:11 | BigBambi | Hillshum: The Ondio FM is a rockbox target... |
| 00:54:15 | BigBambi | One of the oldest |
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| 00:54:28 | pixelma | the OndioFM is a Rockbox target (and was well before the Sansas...) |
| 00:54:30 | Hillshum | oh... but is it flash based? |
| 00:54:31 | moos | pixelma: my ears are agred with you :) |
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| 00:54:54 | BigBambi | But it uses a hardware decoder, so can play MP3 and WAV only |
| 00:55:03 | BigBambi | Hillshum: Yes, it is flash |
| 00:55:03 | boxerorange | Hello everybody! |
| 00:55:39 | Hillshum | i want WMA plus maybe AAC and vorbis |
| 00:56:17 | BigBambi | Then it is a v1 e200 or c200 or a v1 nano |
| 00:56:21 | pixelma | Hillshum: yes, and what BigBambi said and it only has a small monochrome display. My point was only that there are other flash based Rockbox targets besides the Nano and the Sansas :P |
| 00:56:54 | pixelma | it's not an option if you want to play these formats of course |
| 00:57:49 | amiconn | BigBambi: You forgot MP2. Not very widespread in general, but people who directly record dap may find it useful |
| 00:58:03 | pixelma | s/dap/dab |
| 00:58:05 | BigBambi | amiconn: Ah yes, thanks |
| 00:58:14 | boxerorange | So I'm looking into coding for Rockbox and other similar things, could somebody point me in the direction of what languages to learn, other than C? |
| 00:58:28 | amiconn | And unlike all swcodec rockboxes, the archoses don't need to resample that(dab uses 48kHz sample rate) |
| 00:58:36 | BigBambi | boxerorange: For rockbox, it is C and some ASM |
| 00:58:56 | BigBambi | amiconn: So the hwcodec outputs at native sample rate? |
| 00:59:10 | Hillshum | no monocrome for me (my Dad would have gotten me one for Christmas if he'd known they were still around. he didn't want me looking a pics and vids cause at his lawer job he sees to much porn and what not. but the only thing it that regards is the shuffle and that is for losers |
| 00:59:12 | Hillshum | ) |
| 00:59:35 | moos | boxeorange: rockbox use plain C and some asm for few CPUs |
| 00:59:46 | moos | oops echo :) |
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| 01:00:09 | boxerorange | thanks a million! Because I'm looking into iPods specifically, are they just C? |
| 01:00:21 | BigBambi | Rockbox is written for all platforms |
| 01:00:22 | DerPapst | no target uses plainly c |
| 01:00:31 | amiconn | BigBambi: Yes. All standard rates are supported for mp2/mp3 and wav, and for the latter we could even support arbitrary sample rates with a (not very difficult) trick |
| 01:00:36 | BigBambi | With device specific code for drivers etc., obviously |
| 01:00:50 | BigBambi | amiconn: Cool, I didn't realise that, thanks :) |
| 01:01:06 | amiconn | (standard rates 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1 and 48kHz) |
| 01:01:41 | * | amiconn even used his archos recorder once to produce a 96kHz s/pdif signal for testing H1x0 s/pdif recording |
| 01:01:45 | BigBambi | boxerorange: All targets use C + some asm, but to clarify what I said, other than hardware specific code rockbox is not target specific |
| 01:02:14 | boxerorange | ok, thanks! |
| 01:02:17 | * | BigBambi realises that may not have in fact clarified anything, and gives up |
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| 01:02:35 | BigBambi | boxerorange: No probs :) |
| 01:02:38 | pixelma | Hillshum: monochrome display doesn't mean you can't watch jpgs or video too with Rockbox (it isn't as "nice" as in colur maybe but it works) |
| 01:02:59 | amiconn | Playing an 48kHz mp3 file with the mas overclocked to 200% speed (just the pitch screen set to 200%) |
| 01:03:11 | BigBambi | haha :) |
| 01:04:04 | Hillshum | still... |
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| 01:07:03 | stripwax | regarding ipod accessories (and on 5g/5.5g) - does rockbox detect the accessory connected via pin 10, before enabling any power to the accessory? Also, reading http://www.ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector suggests that pin17 is unused, but I may be on crack |
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| 01:22:19 | stripwax | pin10 / pin21 depending how you number the dock port pins. seems there's two references out there for ipod docks.. |
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| 01:37:37 | misterP | hai guys |
| 01:39:07 | misterP | anyone around able to help? my ipod nano has rockbox on with dual boot (the thing where you turn on 'lock' during start to boot up to standard software). traditionally i've not been able to add songs to the pod without booting to the standard software, is this common? |
| 01:39:35 | BigBambi | Yes, rockbox on the nano does not yet have a USB mode |
| 01:39:38 | misterP | second of all, booting to standard no longer allows me to load shizzle (it just says "no formatting" blah blah), and i'm pretty boned |
| 01:39:50 | BigBambi | I have no idea what shizzle is |
| 01:39:55 | misterP | anything |
| 01:40:01 | misterP | because it thinks the drive is RAW |
| 01:40:19 | BigBambi | misterP: Could you retype that sentence in English? |
| 01:40:20 | misterP | as in, cant copy anything onto it |
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| 01:40:48 | misterP | as in, it doesn't recognise the nano is formatted and contains files any more |
| 01:40:52 | BigBambi | So when in USM mode in the original firmware, you cannot copy anything to the drive? |
| 01:40:57 | misterP | yes |
| 01:40:58 | BigBambi | *USB |
| 01:41:05 | BigBambi | What OS do you use> |
| 01:41:06 | BigBambi | ? |
| 01:41:08 | misterP | xp |
| 01:41:18 | BigBambi | Does it get assigned a drive letter> |
| 01:41:24 | misterP | yep |
| 01:41:33 | misterP | "would you like to format" when double clicking |
| 01:41:35 | BigBambi | Could you try running chkdsk on it? |
| 01:42:06 | misterP | running |
| 01:43:00 | misterP | file system is RAW |
| 01:43:04 | misterP | cannot check RAW |
| 01:43:15 | BigBambi | OK |
| 01:43:30 | BigBambi | I hope you have a backup for what is on there :) |
| 01:43:37 | misterP | pff just songs |
| 01:43:40 | misterP | reformat? |
| 01:43:48 | misterP | thing is it still plays the songs fine |
| 01:43:54 | BigBambi | Really> |
| 01:43:56 | misterP | so it's bullshit claiming the fat is dead |
| 01:43:57 | BigBambi | That is odd |
| 01:44:34 | BigBambi | So it sounds like it is the USB that is the issue |
| 01:44:45 | BigBambi | Could you try a different cable or PC? |
| 01:44:55 | misterP | i could, one mo |
| 01:45:37 | * | DerPapst successfully broke 1dtetris and don't know why... |
| 01:45:51 | DerPapst | maybe i should get some sleep and try again tomorrow :-P |
| 01:46:27 | misterP | 1dtetris? is that intentionally stupid? |
| 01:46:32 | misterP | computer says no btw |
| 01:46:37 | misterP | new cable new computer |
| 01:46:40 | misterP | still xp |
| 01:46:41 | BigBambi | hmmm |
| 01:46:43 | misterP | still RAW |
| 01:47:17 | misterP | gaynano is gay |
| 01:47:24 | BigBambi | Don't do that please |
| 01:47:39 | misterP | .. |
| 01:48:14 | boxerorange | "Nano doesn't have USB mode" means you can't connect it via USB with Rockbox? |
| 01:48:26 | BigBambi | boxerorange: Currently, yes |
| 01:48:31 | BigBambi | misterP: I guess you could try reformatting it or restoring it in itunes, but it is very curious that Rockbox and the OF can still read the drive |
| 01:48:48 | BigBambi | boxerorange: Although that is being worked on, and you can dual boot |
| 01:49:23 | misterP | does the OF/rockbox and the USB operate on the same fat? |
| 01:49:58 | DerPapst | sure |
| 01:50:11 | BigBambi | The main OF and the Rockbox bootloader exist in a separate firmware partition |
| 01:50:30 | misterP | only reason i could think that one is fine and other isnt |
| 01:50:35 | DerPapst | however they read/use the same fat partition |
| 01:50:36 | BigBambi | The main Rockbox lives on the main data partition, along with the music |
| 01:51:02 | BigBambi | misterP: I guess it is possible that the OF has become corrupted |
| 01:51:09 | BigBambi | Have you tried emergency disk mode? |
| 01:51:13 | misterP | no |
| 01:51:20 | BigBambi | That lives in flash and is a separate USB mode |
| 01:51:27 | misterP | howto? |
| 01:51:47 | BigBambi | misterP: I believe you reset with menu + select then immediately hold menu+play for disk mode |
| 01:51:57 | BigBambi | But the keys should be in the manual |
| 01:52:16 | DerPapst | correct |
| 01:52:22 | DerPapst | the keys i mean |
| 01:52:30 | misterP | *does* |
| 01:52:30 | DerPapst | err.. no... |
| 01:52:37 | misterP | didnt work first time |
| 01:52:40 | misterP | *does again* |
| 01:52:55 | DerPapst | menu + select for reset and select + play for diskmode |
| 01:52:59 | boxerorange | ...good thing my friend ended up /not/ putting it on his nano |
| 01:53:02 | BigBambi | DerPapst: OK, cheers |
| 01:53:09 | BigBambi | boxerorange: Why? |
| 01:53:19 | * | BigBambi doesn't actually own an iPod |
| 01:53:38 | boxerorange | No USB mode. He doesn't have FireWire and would be annoyed having to switch |
| 01:53:57 | BigBambi | boxerorange: Rockbox will automatically reboot to disk mode on cable insert |
| 01:54:05 | BigBambi | And it dual boots anyway |
| 01:54:06 | DerPapst | what has firewire to do with that? |
| 01:54:08 | misterP | do you mean reset first, then hold sel+play on bootup? |
| 01:54:13 | BigBambi | misterP: yes |
| 01:54:13 | misterP | because no joy with that |
| 01:54:14 | DerPapst | ys. |
| 01:54:15 | boxerorange | oh, I see. cool. |
| 01:54:24 | BigBambi | misterP: The timing can be fiddly |
| 01:54:34 | misterP | got it :D |
| 01:54:37 | BigBambi | cool |
| 01:55:19 | misterP | "disk is not formatted" |
| 01:55:21 | misterP | :( boo |
| 01:55:29 | BigBambi | Bizarre |
| 01:55:46 | misterP | what's best first, itunes recover or format? |
| 01:55:52 | misterP | i dont care about my songs |
| 01:55:58 | BigBambi | Don't know to be honest |
| 01:56:16 | misterP | kk i'll do itunes thang first |
| 01:56:16 | boxerorange | if you'd like to sync/use iTunes I'd do recover, otherwise just format |
| 01:56:26 | BigBambi | ? |
| 01:56:43 | misterP | meh itunes not even installed |
| 01:56:51 | BigBambi | misterP: If itunes restore doesn't work I doubt formatting will |
| 01:56:59 | misterP | cba i'll just format |
| 01:57:17 | BigBambi | You might want to ask on an Apple forum too, as this isn't actually a Rockbox issue |
| 01:57:18 | misterP | do i risk bricking it by formatting first? |
| 01:57:27 | DerPapst | no |
| 01:57:35 | misterP | *formats* |
| 01:57:36 | DerPapst | uPods are almost unbrickable |
| 01:57:40 | DerPapst | iPods even |
| 01:58:10 | DerPapst | if you see a white progress bar below a silver apple do not reset the iPod though |
| 01:58:15 | DerPapst | that will brick it ;-) |
| 01:58:24 | misterP | you said that as i clicked format |
| 01:58:47 | BigBambi | misterP: You will only see that if itunes is reflashing it |
| 01:58:55 | misterP | oh |
| 01:59:36 | misterP | the OF will still be on there after format right? so now i just need to reinstall rockbox |
| 01:59:44 | DerPapst | yes |
| 01:59:46 | BigBambi | yeah |
| 01:59:53 | BigBambi | If USB works again |
| 01:59:55 | misterP | okie should be all good now, it recognises the new format |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:02 | misterP | cheers for your help guys |
| 02:00:04 | BigBambi | cool |
| 02:00:07 | BigBambi | no worries |
| 02:00:09 | boxerorange | OF? |
| 02:00:21 | BigBambi | original firmware |
| 02:00:31 | boxerorange | I was close...thought it was official |
| 02:00:39 | BigBambi | could be I suppose |
| 02:01:25 | misterP | as a thanks, treat yourself to some cool music - http://www.deezer.com/track/28367 |
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| 02:07:15 | moos | Good night guys |
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| 02:07:26 | * | BigBambi should go to bed too |
| 02:07:31 | BigBambi | night all |
| 02:07:45 | DerPapst | night BigBambi |
| 02:07:47 | DerPapst | :-) |
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| 02:07:55 | boxerorange | night |
| 02:08:03 | * | DerPapst follows |
| 02:08:12 | DerPapst | Night all :-) |
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| 02:10:17 | webguest80 | hi, is there a specialist about e200tool and pre-boot mode ? we finish with a "*DANGER*, player might not be bootable now! Please retry!" |
| 02:10:44 | webguest80 | actions and logs are here : http://dormrf.free.fr/toutsansa/viewtopic.php?id=236&p=10 |
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| 02:11:54 | webguest80 | Three month that we try to save his sansa :/ |
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| 02:16:53 | misterP | hey again |
| 02:16:55 | misterP | still here? |
| 02:17:04 | boxerorange | I'm here. |
| 02:17:45 | misterP | dunno if you're interested, but it seems to be able to access the USB on rockbox now.. |
| 02:18:16 | misterP | just that bigbambi was saying it couldnt |
| 02:18:31 | BigBambi | It can't |
| 02:18:36 | misterP | right |
| 02:18:42 | BigBambi | It automatically reboots to emergency disk mode |
| 02:18:46 | misterP | ah |
| 02:18:49 | BigBambi | Which is apple code |
| 02:18:49 | boxerorange | it sounded like he was saying that it couldn't natively, but would detect being pugged in... |
| 02:18:51 | misterP | didnt do that before |
| 02:18:55 | boxerorange | and you beat me to it |
| 02:19:08 | BigBambi | misterP: It was broken for a bit, so if you have just updated... |
| 02:19:19 | misterP | awesome, saves me having to reboot every time |
| 02:19:54 | * | BigBambi really goes to bed now |
| 02:19:55 | misterP | anyway, that's all i wanted to say, later |
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| 02:23:05 | webguest72 | Hi Guys....just a quick question if possible.....I was wondering if I need to worry about the battery on my gigabeat....Ive had it for over three years now with no sign of battery decay.....always says I have 13hrs47min when fully charged....is this normal....does the battery life indicator on rockbox change when the battery is degrading???? please help....thanks chris |
| 02:23:28 | RoC_MasterMind | hey hey! I threw my ipod 4g at the ground a couple times while it click of death resetting and was at that "sad folder", and now it's working and I was able to restore the apple firmware and now rockbox and I have no read errors so far! |
| 02:25:44 | misterP | i'm pretty sure their "remaining time" number is generated from generic figures for usage of your ipod and corresponding battery life |
| 02:26:19 | misterP | therefore it won't take into account the lower effectiveness of older batteries |
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| 02:26:49 | webguest72 | ohhhh....thanks....i thought it was too good to be true |
| 02:27:21 | misterP | wait a sec though |
| 02:27:25 | misterP | just researching on their forums |
| 02:27:31 | webguest72 | can I take my own measure of the time and set that as the time left indicator |
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| 02:29:42 | misterP | still looking! |
| 02:29:46 | misterP | i havent left you |
| 02:34:36 | misterP | meh |
| 02:34:39 | misterP | not much use to be found |
| 02:35:31 | misterP | ok it calculates battery remaining based on voltage i'm thinking |
| 02:35:42 | misterP | so yeah time remaining is standard |
| 02:36:36 | misterP | still doesnt help :P |
| 02:37:42 | webguest72 | ahhh.....thanks......can I change the voltage setting so it will think the time remaining is less....thinking I could time a full discharge and set that as the time remaining....any ideas |
| 02:37:59 | misterP | ok |
| 02:38:06 | misterP | if you go to settings |
| 02:38:20 | misterP | then general settings |
| 02:38:21 | webguest72 | yup |
| 02:38:26 | misterP | then system |
| 02:38:34 | misterP | then battery |
| 02:38:35 | webguest72 | yep |
| 02:38:59 | misterP | allows you to change the battery capacity in mAh |
| 02:39:11 | webguest72 | cool...thanks |
| 02:39:20 | webguest72 | I really appreciate the time |
| 02:39:38 | webguest72 | I mean your time....parden the pun |
| 02:40:00 | misterP | ;) |
| 02:40:16 | webguest72 | thanks again |
| 02:40:42 | misterP | do you know how to find mAh? |
| 02:40:45 | misterP | cos i'm just finding it for you.. |
| 02:41:37 | misterP | gone? |
| 02:41:46 | misterP | cos there's a plugin you can use to generate a neat curve. |
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| 02:46:35 | webguest72 | nahh.....Im here and I dont know how to find my mAh |
| 02:46:53 | webguest72 | which plugin???? |
| 02:47:29 | webguest72 | is that battery bench |
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| 02:48:56 | Llorean | Bagder: Present? |
| 02:49:26 | boxerorange | how can I download very, very old builds of Firmware? |
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| 02:50:05 | venox | hey there. I'm having crashes on my iPod nano. |
| 02:50:15 | venox | "Data abort at 00008630" |
| 02:50:22 | boxerorange | First Gen? |
| 02:50:31 | venox | yes. |
| 02:50:49 | boxerorange | What are you trying to do? |
| 02:50:55 | venox | while playing music |
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| 02:51:10 | boxerorange | is happens randomly? or when you first pick a song? |
| 02:51:17 | venox | randomly |
| 02:51:37 | cool_walking_ | boxerorange: I don't think you can download very very old builds. You'll have to grab the old source from SVN and build it yourself. |
| 02:51:49 | venox | it started since I've updated rockbox today |
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| 02:52:05 | boxerorange | oh fun... |
| 02:52:09 | venox | (I was running rockbox without updating for about a month) |
| 02:52:26 | boxerorange | did you *just* update it? |
| 02:52:39 | cool_walking_ | boxerorange: Why do you want a very very old build? |
| 02:53:08 | boxerorange | I'd like to have the first build *ever* for 5th Gen iPod because I'd like to look at the source |
| 02:53:20 | venox | updated and changed the rockbox theme to the new default (cabbiev2) |
| 02:53:27 | cool_walking_ | boxerorange: well then you'd need the source anyway... |
| 02:54:05 | boxerorange | yeah |
| 02:55:17 | boxerorange | venox: my best guess it that you should try and update to the current firmware |
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| 02:55:44 | boxerorange | where could I get the source? |
| 02:56:26 | cool_walking_ | do you know how to use SVN? |
| 02:56:50 | boxerorange | I don't even know what that is, actually. |
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| 02:57:42 | cool_walking_ | Okay, then read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide |
| 02:59:01 | webguest32 | Hi all....from the batteryBenchmark plugin, was wondering how to calculate the mAh from the voltage????? |
| 02:59:07 | webguest32 | please help |
| 02:59:09 | webguest32 | thanks |
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| 03:00:46 | boxerorange | I'm guessing I should download Subversion? |
| 03:01:04 | cool_walking_ | It's included in Cygwin/VMware/etc instructions |
| 03:01:34 | cool_walking_ | But not the linux ones.. are you on Linux? |
| 03:01:41 | boxerorange | Vista :( |
| 03:02:36 | cool_walking_ | Yeah then just pick one of Cygwin, coLinux or VMware, and follow the respective link under "Setup Your Environment" |
| 03:02:54 | boxerorange | it seems to me that most of the commands/directions/etc are all Linux-based. |
| 03:03:13 | boxerorange | Should I put linux on my computer or is Cygwin enough? |
| 03:03:30 | cool_walking_ | Yeah, Cygwin, coLinux and WMware all give you a Linux or Linux-like environment |
| 03:03:48 | cool_walking_ | You don't have to use pure Linux, Cygwin/etc is fine |
| 03:04:43 | boxerorange | ok. I was reading about dumping drives and tried some commands in the command prompt with no success :/ then I realized I was dumb |
| 03:05:20 | cool_walking_ | Don't worry, you're not the first |
| 03:06:39 | cool_walking_ | That "dd if=blah of=blah" stuff won't work in Cygwin/etc though. That *does* need real Linux. |
| 03:07:05 | boxerorange | any disto is fine though? |
| 03:07:05 | cool_walking_ | or Mac OS X or BSD |
| 03:07:08 | cool_walking_ | Yeah |
| 03:07:33 | boxerorange | because I might grab the crappy computer in my room and split the HD because I don't use it for anything else |
| 03:08:02 | cool_walking_ | ... provided you've got some easy way of installing packages, like Debian |
| 03:08:21 | boxerorange | I've got a router with one more free port |
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| 03:08:46 | cool_walking_ | I just mean if you're new to Linux, just choose something Debian-based so you can install stuff easily. |
| 03:09:35 | cool_walking_ | err.. but this is going off-topic |
| 03:10:44 | boxerorange | I'd probably just try Ubuntu, since I already know it fairly well |
| 03:11:24 | cool_walking_ | Ubuntu's fine |
| 03:11:35 | cool_walking_ | That's what I'm using |
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| 03:14:40 | Bensawsome | lol |
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| 03:15:25 | boxerorange | hello |
| 03:16:00 | cool_walking_ | hi |
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| 03:18:38 | boxerorange | ok, downloading ubuntu now...will probably not be able to install/move computer until tomorrow |
| 03:19:34 | cool_walking_ | ok |
| 03:20:06 | boxerorange | but I think I'm going to get VMware and attempt a dump of my iPod |
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| 03:22:41 | cool_walking_ | I don't think that will work |
| 03:22:52 | cool_walking_ | I'm not sure though |
| 03:23:14 | cool_walking_ | Because VMware is running inside Windows, it might not have the direct access to the iPod disk that the dd command needs |
| 03:23:27 | javaman | isnt there a mirror hosted by rockbox for the cygwin installation? |
| 03:23:57 | javaman | i tryed www.rockbox.org but no work |
| 03:24:16 | boxerorange | hm, that could be |
| 03:24:34 | javaman | nvm i found it in wiki |
| 03:25:16 | n17ikh | it will work, if you're just making an image of the hdd |
| 03:25:24 | n17ikh | because of vmware's usb passthrough |
| 03:25:36 | n17ikh | it'll be slow though, since vmware is just usb 1.1 |
| 03:25:45 | n17ikh | except in the newest version |
| 03:25:55 | n17ikh | but why not just get dd for windows? |
| 03:27:53 | javaman | is gcc 3.4.4-3 the latest? |
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| 03:28:47 | boxerorange | where could I get it? |
| 03:29:27 | boxerorange | interesting. I just found where Phase puts the included songs on my iPod... |
| 03:30:06 | cool_walking_ | http://unxutils.sf.net has dd |
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| 03:31:46 | boxerorange | the download on that page doesn't work :/ |
| 03:32:52 | cool_walking_ | ah, check http://sourceforge.net/projects/unxutils/ |
| 03:34:09 | cool_walking_ | That broken link has been there for ages.. seems to have happened when the project moved to sourceforge. |
| 03:35:15 | boxerorange | heh, you can change all of the sprites for pac-man too :D |
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| 03:49:54 | boxerorange | hello |
| 03:51:33 | boxerorange | do you think it would be a very good idea to get familiar with Rockbox and how it works before attempting to make a new port? |
| 03:52:09 | javaman | do you have any coding experience?? |
| 03:52:42 | boxerorange | none, sadly |
| 03:53:35 | scorche|sh | well, you are going to need to, yeah... |
| 03:54:13 | boxerorange | the even worse news is that I can't start for another month |
| 03:54:26 | boxerorange | I don't have the time between work and school to do this :( |
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| 04:17:19 | * | Llorean does the "interesting new patch in the tracker" cheer. |
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| 04:22:06 | fisherman | Does rockbox have any usb communication support? :s |
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| 04:22:31 | JdGordon|uni | yes |
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| 04:23:18 | fisherman | link to where i could find some info on it ? :D |
| 04:23:40 | JdGordon|uni | the manual.... but depends what you want to do and which target you want to do it on |
| 04:24:06 | fisherman | ipod 5.5g :C |
| 04:24:57 | JdGordon|uni | ah, then no. you need to compile your own build to use usb |
| 04:26:04 | fisherman | does it support usb and it just isn't included by default? or would i have to write usb support for it? |
| 04:26:37 | javama1 | its there but not included by default |
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| 04:27:05 | fisherman | oh. |
| 04:27:20 | fisherman | How would i go about doing this? |
| 04:27:33 | javaman | what os are you on |
| 04:27:48 | * | Llorean would like to point out that it's not included because it's not entirely done yet. |
| 04:27:56 | fisherman | I'm on windows but i'm probably going to use my debian server to compile. |
| 04:28:06 | fisherman | Llorean: i'm up for some freaky experiances. |
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| 04:39:06 | IceGuest_75 | hi |
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| 04:52:56 | Navonod | I just bought a new Creative Zen 2GB.... does Rockbox work with it? |
| 04:55:35 | JdGordon|uni | not yet |
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| 04:56:06 | Navonod | are there plans for it in the near future? |
| 04:56:28 | krazykit | nothing is planned; ports are done by interested owners. |
| 04:56:46 | Navonod | I;m interested, but no idea where to start |
| 04:57:07 | krazykit | start with the NewPorts wiki page and the creative zen thread in the New Ports forum, I'd say. |
| 04:57:54 | krazykit | sorry, the NewPort wiki page |
| 04:59:28 | javaman | helloworld.c isnt in svn anymore? |
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| 05:00:13 | javaman | nvm im a noob was looking in my build folder |
| 05:00:22 | Navonod | what is involved in making a port? |
| 05:01:37 | krazykit | Navonod, figuring out the hardware, figuring out how to get your own code to run, writing drivers. the NewPort page, as I recall, should list it pretty well |
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| 05:34:55 | troy_ | any one on here use ida pro coding tool? |
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| 07:12:49 | ved | eee i wouldnt call it coding tool, rather decoding :D |
| 07:13:08 | ved | ~_~sleep |
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| 07:31:39 | homielowe | Should the gigabeat S bootloader compile straight for a rockboxdev.sh of arm-elf-gcc or do I need a patch? |
| 07:32:05 | toffe82 | should be direct |
| 07:32:31 | homielowe | toffe82: my compiler must be outdated then, rebuilding |
| 07:33:17 | toffe82 | I installer it a few weeks ago on xubuntu and compile with no problem |
| 07:34:02 | homielowe | (arm-elf-gcc) |
| 07:35:05 | toffe82 | I used the script to install it |
| 07:35:33 | toffe82 | you need build essential I think |
| 07:36:18 | homielowe | toffe82: nm fixed |
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| 07:52:45 | Llorean | pondlife: I've created a new image for the forums to fix the problem, so you should be able to go back to checkbox mode |
| 07:53:00 | pondlife | Thanks, will do. |
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| 08:24:20 | mrkiko | Hi all! |
| 08:24:32 | mrkiko | Can someone tell me how well the new playback & buffering implementation work? |
| 08:24:45 | mrkiko | I would like to try it but now I can't... |
| 08:24:51 | mrkiko | I will probably tomorrow... or later... |
| 08:28:41 | Llorean | What exactly are you asking? |
| 08:29:31 | mrkiko | I was asking an opinion from someone regarding how well the new buffering & playback implementation seems to work. Just an opinion... |
| 08:29:57 | mrkiko | svn://r17109 |
| 08:30:48 | Llorean | But I mean, how well in what way? It improves things, and that's why it was committed as the commit notice says.. |
| 08:31:14 | mrkiko | Well in the sense of performance: how faster will be the skipping process... |
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| 09:04:20 | * | LinusN spots FS #8894 and cheers |
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| 09:19:18 | * | amiconn opens FS #8894, says 'hmm' and closes it again |
| 09:19:33 | JdGordon | its that good is it? :p |
| 09:19:38 | amiconn | LinusN: That reminds me though - is there a reason why tracker email notification doesn't work? |
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| 09:20:23 | LinusN | it doesn't? |
| 09:21:40 | pondlife | Woirks for me... |
| 09:25:32 | pondlife | Where does dsp.c sit with regards to voice? |
| 09:25:32 | LinusN | i am flooded with tracker emails |
| 09:25:42 | pondlife | Me too |
| 09:26:17 | LinusN | however, that's because i subscribe to the tracker mailing list |
| 09:26:38 | LinusN | i wouldn't know if the regular email notification was broken |
| 09:26:42 | amiconn | LinusN: Well, I chose to be notified for the lcd remote task, but didn't receive a single mail from the tracker even though there were several comments (which I didn't notice for several days because I got no single mail) |
| 09:27:03 | pondlife | amiconn: Are you subscribed to the ML? |
| 09:27:12 | pondlife | I am, but with mail turned off. |
| 09:27:13 | amiconn | no |
| 09:27:36 | amiconn | It used to work some time ago |
| 09:27:41 | LinusN | amiconn: i'll let björn take a look at that |
| 09:28:52 | pondlife | It would be good to get FS #8894 committed soon-ish; who's a dsp.c expert who could check it over? |
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| 09:29:57 | amiconn | JdGordon: No, it's the type 'yet another feature that might be technically interesting but I have no use for' |
| 09:30:25 | pondlife | Very useful for podcasts and audio books, I'd think. |
| 09:31:29 | jhMikeS | poindlife: it changes RESAMPLE_BUF_COUNT to a huge value which is bad (might not even compile on cf). |
| 09:31:53 | amiconn | pondlife: Probably, but that's stuff im I'm not interested in. |
| 09:31:54 | jhMikeS | hmm, I guess it does |
| 09:32:11 | pondlife | I'm just about to try on H300, I'll let you know.... |
| 09:32:23 | pondlife | Not good for low latency though? |
| 09:32:51 | * | amiconn prefers real books over audio books, after trying some of the latter |
| 09:33:19 | B4gder | I prefer audio books when driving ;-) |
| 09:33:28 | pondlife | Yup |
| 09:33:42 | pondlife | Just like voice support...! |
| 09:35:23 | amiconn | Nah, imho it's different |
| 09:35:51 | pondlife | Hmm, I get a warning when compiling scramble.c - "scramble.c:128: warning: 'slen' might be used uninitialized in this function". Do we not pick those up as yellow? |
| 09:35:51 | amiconn | Audio books require continuous attention (or pausing/unpausing all the time) |
| 09:36:10 | B4gder | pondlife: we should! |
| 09:36:34 | B4gder | what gcc? |
| 09:36:49 | B4gder | ah |
| 09:36:54 | pondlife | "gcc version 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)" |
| 09:37:10 | B4gder | we don't clean the tools |
| 09:37:21 | B4gder | so they're not rebuilt every build! |
| 09:37:41 | pondlife | Hmm, is that why the builds are so fast? :) |
| 09:37:41 | B4gder | "make[1]: `scramble' is up to date. " in the build logs |
| 09:38:04 | pondlife | That's fair enough - it'll pick up updates. |
| 09:38:09 | B4gder | yes |
| 09:38:12 | pondlife | So we had a one-off yellow..? |
| 09:38:31 | B4gder | I guess, but I can't recall having seen that one |
| 09:38:48 | B4gder | I thought I fixed all the warnings when I did that commit work |
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| 09:40:09 | pondlife | Hopefully I just got rid of the gappy build table too... or pushed the gap to the bottom, at least. |
| 09:40:28 | pondlife | Ah, no... it extended further (for now). |
| 09:41:07 | jhMikeS | pondlife: it's also got a construct in dsp_process I'm not crazy about - function pointer is a better choice |
| 09:41:20 | B4gder | we need to get rid of the gap to stop me from thinking I need to do something about it ;-) |
| 09:41:38 | pondlife | B4gder: I'm sure I can find something in my pile-o-patches... :) |
| 09:46:37 | pondlife | Hmm, how about a tagnavi.config tweak to make it consistently use plural forms? Database > Album vs. Database > A to Z... > Albums has annoyed me for a while now. |
| 09:46:54 | pondlife | The ... is a bit annoying too. |
| 09:47:00 | B4gder | if we wanted the tools to rebuild at every commit, we'd need to change them to get built in the build dir too |
| 09:47:09 | B4gder | and I don't think we're ready for that |
| 09:47:36 | pondlife | Wooh, no (obvious) gap |
| 09:52:52 | * | jhMikeS doesn't like what that patch does to the DSP |
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| 10:03:19 | pondlife | It works fine on H300 though |
| 10:03:25 | pondlife | Pity it's mono only... |
| 10:04:06 | jhMikeS | My main issue is the massive buffers and their removal from IRAM. |
| 10:04:47 | pondlife | Indeed. |
| 10:05:06 | pondlife | 150% speed + 66.6% pitch is quite fun. |
| 10:05:34 | pondlife | Not sure I'd want to listen to it like this often though |
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| 11:36:46 | B4gder | the noise level on the mentor list is... high |
| 11:36:54 | B4gder | gsoc mentor that is |
| 11:40:27 | petur | indeed |
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| 11:44:04 | gevaerts | What are you complaining about ? There were at least three useful mails on it |
| 11:45:26 | * | gevaerts doesn't mention the 800+ less useful mails |
| 11:46:10 | dionoea | you should just read it on the google groups web application ... that way you don't get the spam in your inbox |
| 11:47:02 | gevaerts | It doesn't reach my inbox, it goes straight to the gsoc mailbox |
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| 11:53:31 | JdGordon | is http://pastebin.ca/985801 in button.h not a good idea? (or more.. anoying checks which probably arnt going to be needed? making the file a bit iritating to read?) |
| 11:55:26 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: do you know which controller registers have to be set up for device mode and what values they should have? the module is in a default state on S. (I did get to a "USB device not recognized" point so far). |
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| 11:56:55 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: usb_drv_init() should handle that part |
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| 12:00:16 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: and that's called (indirectly) from usb.c, via usb_enable() and usb_core_init(). Do you already have a working usb_detect() ? If not, maybe just make one that always returns USB_INSERTED |
| 12:00:26 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: of course. I know it at least has to be explicitely switched to ULPI so I know the OF does not set up the controller for us. I thought you might be know enough to initialize it from scratch. |
| 12:01:28 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I don't see anything missing in usb_drv_init() |
| 12:03:58 | jhMikeS | The switch to ULPI mode is missing for one. (it is not by default) |
| 12:04:28 | gevaerts | Yes, but apart from that |
| 12:05:51 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: is PTW in PORTSC1 set correctly ? |
| 12:08:57 | jhMikeS | not sure |
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| 12:09:27 | gevaerts | I think it must be 0 (8-bit) |
| 12:10:14 | gevaerts | At least if I understood the block diagram correctly |
| 12:12:56 | * | jhMikeS will dump the reg contents again |
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| 12:17:06 | jhMikeS | the default values is CC000004 |
| 12:17:57 | * | gevaerts checks what that means |
| 12:19:31 | preglow | wow, a time stretcher |
| 12:20:54 | jhMikeS | the 8-bit interface is correct for the ISP1504 btw |
| 12:21:12 | gevaerts | I think only PTS should be changed then |
| 12:21:48 | jhMikeS | What setting - 10 = ULPI? |
| 12:22:02 | gevaerts | I would think so, yes |
| 12:24:09 | jhMikeS | ISP1504 says it's "UTMI+". I guess I'll try that too. |
| 12:25:00 | markun | preglow: where? |
| 12:25:59 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: what does REG_HWGENERAL contain ? |
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| 12:26:26 | preglow | markun: 8894 |
| 12:27:04 | * | jhMikeS will check that |
| 12:27:12 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: at some point I think you'll also have to read REG_HWDEVICE to find out how many endpoints it supports. |
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| 12:31:14 | preglow | hah, it works great |
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| 12:33:20 | markun | cool |
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| 12:33:42 | markun | tried it on speech? |
| 12:33:53 | preglow | yep |
| 12:33:56 | preglow | sounds as i'd expect |
| 12:34:10 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: HWGENERAL = 0x000005c5, HWDEVICE = 0x00000011 |
| 12:34:31 | preglow | you get comb artifacs, but that's to be expected from a time stretcher for our use |
| 12:35:09 | preglow | it'd primarily be a speech thing, it does some weird things to some music |
| 12:35:18 | preglow | because of the combing artifacts, i'd wager |
| 12:35:28 | jhMikeS | Using ULPI it freezes, using UTMI/UTMI+ it never enters the usb screen. :\ |
| 12:36:39 | preglow | yeah, it seriously messes up some frequencies |
| 12:37:35 | pondlife | preglow: It's pretty good though. |
| 12:37:45 | preglow | yeah, decent enough |
| 12:37:48 | pondlife | You able to understand what it does? |
| 12:38:00 | preglow | looking at it afterwards, but if it's wsola, i think i do anyway |
| 12:38:13 | pondlife | I think I might need quite a lot of reading to get there :/ |
| 12:38:18 | preglow | nah, it's a simple scheme |
| 12:38:30 | * | pondlife is simple too |
| 12:38:39 | preglow | you just overlap and add segments of the audio based on an auto-correlation analysis or something like it |
| 12:39:02 | pondlife | You lost me at about "segments" ;) |
| 12:39:13 | preglow | it just isolates certain parts of the audio |
| 12:40:07 | pondlife | So, it needs to use a dedicated buffer for processing, and perhaps some optimisation, before it could be committed? |
| 12:40:16 | preglow | i'll have a look at it later and know |
| 12:40:27 | preglow | but yeah, it'll have to stop using the resampler buffer |
| 12:40:40 | preglow | and i wonder if we should unify this and the old pitch changer |
| 12:40:50 | preglow | perhaps make it a setting if you want this or that behaviour |
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| 12:40:59 | pondlife | I think so. Although it'll need an option to persist the setting or not. |
| 12:41:07 | preglow | sure, not a problem |
| 12:41:23 | pondlife | One thought I had earlier; how does dsp.c interact with voice? |
| 12:41:25 | preglow | i think it should persist, really |
| 12:41:28 | preglow | always |
| 12:41:36 | preglow | i see no reason for anything else |
| 12:41:38 | pondlife | I wouldn't mind, but some people would |
| 12:41:53 | preglow | pondlife: interact as in how? voice passes through it like any audio |
| 12:42:06 | pondlife | That's a pity, but unavoidable I guess |
| 12:42:18 | preglow | ahhh |
| 12:42:20 | preglow | no, we can fix that |
| 12:42:25 | preglow | there are separate states |
| 12:42:26 | pondlife | We'd don't want to timestretch voice |
| 12:42:38 | preglow | jhMikeS has done a good job of that |
| 12:42:46 | pondlife | I think of dsp as a mixer's channel strip, is that reasonable? |
| 12:42:48 | preglow | time stretching piano is such a bitch :P |
| 12:42:48 | pondlife | i.e. dsp.c |
| 12:42:49 | jhMikeS | screwing it up? |
| 12:42:56 | pondlife | hehe |
| 12:43:05 | preglow | pondlife: as of now that is a wee bit unreasonable, yes |
| 12:43:15 | pondlife | I mean, as a model to aim for... |
| 12:43:17 | LinusN | there is no point at all in stretching the voice |
| 12:43:18 | preglow | but we'd like it to be that way some day |
| 12:43:24 | * | gevaerts is confused |
| 12:43:25 | pondlife | My expectations are realistic. |
| 12:43:32 | preglow | LinusN: nah, people tend to speed up voice snippets manually anwyay |
| 12:43:35 | preglow | anyway too! |
| 12:43:50 | LinusN | exactly |
| 12:44:12 | pondlife | The voice quality needs all the help it can get, not get butchered :) |
| 12:44:13 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: those values don't seem to make sense... |
| 12:44:22 | LinusN | the "voice" he is referring to in the flyspray task is audiobooks |
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| 12:44:39 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: that's what they are though |
| 12:44:53 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: Are you compiling with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? that might change some behaviour |
| 12:44:58 | jhMikeS | no |
| 12:45:01 | JdGordon | arg.. crap... |
| 12:45:05 | JdGordon | yes I'm fixing it... |
| 12:45:15 | pondlife | JdGordon: I knew you weren't colourblind :) |
| 12:45:45 | JdGordon | stupid plugins are being compiled :'( |
| 12:46:01 | gevaerts | HWDEVICE seems to indicate that there are 8 endpoints (which is great. PP only has 3) |
| 12:47:37 | preglow | this thing does do some 64 bit maths, and that can be optimized |
| 12:47:57 | jhMikeS | ULPI/ULPI+ must be correct though because a wrong setting or the trasnceiver not CS'ed causing a hard lock |
| 12:48:15 | jhMikeS | *causes |
| 12:48:25 | gevaerts | I agree there |
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| 12:48:56 | jhMikeS | now it connects (from the rb viewpoint) but never enters the screen and for some reason...I'm also not getting logf messages :\ |
| 12:49:26 | jhMikeS | which seems to just be something werid with logf itself here |
| 12:49:57 | gevaerts | No usb screen means that either USB_STORAGE is not defined in usb_core.h (if you didn't change that, it is defined), or no control request comes in from the host |
| 12:51:52 | * | DerPapst seems to have finished his 2nd gsoc test app :-P |
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| 12:53:47 | JdGordon | we have way too many plugins :p |
| 12:54:40 | * | gevaerts gets ready to play |
| 12:54:52 | DerPapst | rockbox is all about games ;-) |
| 12:55:55 | jhMikeS | oops...no USB_STORAGE define :p |
| 12:56:17 | gevaerts | Not really a problem, but then you won't get the usb screen |
| 12:56:29 | gevaerts | Are you on linux ? |
| 12:56:40 | jhMikeS | no |
| 12:56:59 | jhMikeS | I try it with that enabled though and see what happens |
| 12:57:47 | gevaerts | on windows I don't know where to look for information on how far it gets |
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| 13:02:52 | jhMikeS | what sort of tool should I try to track down? |
| 13:04:02 | gevaerts | I'm not sure. there are some software tracers, but I don't know how well they work before you have seen anything |
| 13:04:29 | * | gevaerts is spoiled by having access to hardware tracrs |
| 13:05:06 | gevaerts | but if you get logf working, the logf output from usb_core.c should be interesting |
| 13:05:34 | * | jhMikeS can't imagine what was done here that it isn't working :\ |
| 13:05:38 | * | JdGordon hopes the d2 people dont decide to kill him :p |
| 13:06:39 | * | pondlife encourages the d2 people :p |
| 13:07:00 | * | gevaerts hands out pitchforks and flaming torches |
| 13:07:08 | pondlife | I've already had the Swedish hitman go for me. |
| 13:07:31 | pondlife | And for lesser crimes than a bit of red, I should add :) |
| 13:07:48 | B4gder | did he force you to listen to ABBA for a whole day? |
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| 13:08:05 | pondlife | B4gder: Sadly not |
| 13:08:22 | B4gder | we need better trained hitmen! |
| 13:08:31 | aliask | jhMikeS: If you want me to test some stuff under linux feel free to fire a patch off to me. |
| 13:08:32 | * | pondlife hopes he gets to do a "Ladies and Gentleman" post one day :) |
| 13:08:41 | gevaerts | Oh, that sort of hit |
| 13:09:54 | jhMikeS | aliask - sure thing |
| 13:10:41 | jhMikeS | Not defining HAVE_USB_CHARGING should have no ill effect right? |
| 13:10:58 | gevaerts | not as far as I know |
| 13:11:07 | jhMikeS | *HAVE_USB_POWER of course |
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| 13:12:30 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: is there any udelay stuff in there (it won't work here) |
| 13:12:44 | jhMikeS | I made the reset a sleep but that's all |
| 13:14:50 | gevaerts | there is an udelay in usb_init_device() |
| 13:15:11 | gevaerts | Does current_tick work ? |
| 13:15:13 | jhMikeS | I made that sleep(HZ/20) already |
| 13:17:01 | gevaerts | There's one more udelay, but that should never be reached (usb_drv_set_test_mode()) |
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| 13:19:05 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: Also avaliable for linux testing etc. if needed :) |
| 13:19:18 | jhMikeS | jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS.diff |
| 13:20:00 | BigBambi | on it! |
| 13:22:03 | BigBambi | oops, forgot svn up |
| 13:22:11 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: What output would you like? |
| 13:22:35 | gevaerts | BigBambi: dmesg output after pluging in would be useful |
| 13:22:42 | BigBambi | righto |
| 13:23:56 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: http://www.pastebin.ca/985870 |
| 13:23:59 | jhMikeS | BigBambi: ask gevaerts what output is most useful. I don't even know what to look for. |
| 13:24:46 | jhMikeS | btw, MrH originally had udelays in the some timeout code which were replaced with counts. Those will definitely execute too quickly here. |
| 13:24:58 | gevaerts | BigBambi: can you try with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? |
| 13:25:06 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Sure, one mo |
| 13:26:29 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: the current code loops until current_ticks has increased enough |
| 13:26:59 | jhMikeS | it's called in thread context? current_tick won't change if you're already in a handler. |
| 13:27:24 | aliask | gevaerts: I'm getting "hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" - any ideas? |
| 13:27:30 | gevaerts | the usb interrupt handlr doesn't wait at all |
| 13:27:44 | gevaerts | aliask: can you try without a hub ? |
| 13:28:01 | aliask | It's plugged straight into the motherboard. |
| 13:28:13 | gevaerts | then maybe with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? |
| 13:28:38 | aliask | in config-gigabeat-s.h? |
| 13:29:21 | gevaerts | that's a good place to put it, yes |
| 13:29:33 | BigBambi | gevaerts: http://www.pastebin.ca/985872 |
| 13:29:40 | BigBambi | That is with USE_HIGH_SPEED |
| 13:29:51 | * | jhMikeS should check the usb pll settings in the SoC too |
| 13:30:32 | jhMikeS | what is error -71? |
| 13:30:55 | gevaerts | I _think_ timeout. Let me check |
| 13:31:16 | BigBambi | quick reboot, one mo |
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| 13:32:53 | gevaerts | protocol error |
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| 13:33:47 | gevaerts | It basically means that the get_descriptor control request failed |
| 13:34:20 | jhMikeS | are just two buffers used with UNCACHED_ADDR? |
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| 13:35:34 | BigBambi | Damn thing decided it needed to check my disks on start up |
| 13:35:49 | gevaerts | yes and no. response_data and whatever descriptor is sent |
| 13:35:59 | gevaerts | It's in only two places though |
| 13:36:40 | jhMikeS | td_array and qh_array? |
| 13:36:52 | * | gevaerts forgot about those |
| 13:38:02 | gevaerts | Yes, in usb-drv-pp502x.c those are the only two uncached ones. You might try putting them in IRAM if you have some available |
| 13:39:58 | * | jhMikeS thinks he messed something up here |
| 13:40:16 | pondlife | Nice little bugette - when playback ends naturally, if you press PLAY again, you get a second chance to hear the last three seconds of the last track again. |
| 13:40:38 | pondlife | That'll be the index synchronising problem again, I guess. |
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| 13:41:50 | pondlife | Nico_P: Hi, I just noticed a tiny bug... check the logs? |
| 13:42:03 | Nico_P | ok |
| 13:42:13 | pondlife | Reaally tiny, honest. |
| 13:42:58 | Nico_P | pondlife: oh yes, amiconn noticed it too |
| 13:43:07 | Nico_P | I know why it occurs |
| 13:43:10 | pondlife | What's surprising is it won't do it a second time |
| 13:43:27 | Nico_P | yes |
| 13:43:37 | pondlife | Resume position is saved before the index is increased? |
| 13:43:47 | Nico_P | I need to refresh my memory, just a sec |
| 13:44:22 | pondlife | I guess it'lll be fixed if the playlist index only increases at WPS transition. |
| 13:46:43 | Nico_P | pondlife: it's caused by playback.c:1982 |
| 13:47:34 | pondlife | heh, I could have guessed it would be audio_check_new_track() without even looking |
| 13:48:08 | Nico_P | :) |
| 13:48:30 | Nico_P | because of that line, after the last track skip, playlist_end is false, which means audio_stop_playback will save resume info for a track instead of NULL |
| 13:48:52 | Nico_P | the fix would be to remove that line, but there might be side effects on a codec change |
| 13:49:00 | Nico_P | I still need to test |
| 13:49:26 | pondlife | playlist_end should be removed really |
| 13:49:30 | Nico_P | I agree |
| 13:49:49 | pondlife | It's only tested in the one place. |
| 13:49:51 | Nico_P | with the new "filling" state var, I was on the verge of removing it |
| 13:50:15 | Nico_P | but I didn't fully understand it, so I decided to keep it to avoid adding new bugs |
| 13:50:23 | Nico_P | I think I understand it much better now |
| 13:50:28 | pondlife | Isn't filling related to the buffering side, not the playback side? |
| 13:50:40 | Nico_P | playlist_end is too |
| 13:51:00 | Nico_P | it's set to true when the last track of the playlist is buffered |
| 13:51:18 | pondlife | Wacky |
| 13:51:34 | pondlife | It's only checked in audio_stop_playback() |
| 13:51:39 | Nico_P | yes |
| 13:52:00 | Nico_P | I think it's strictly equivalent to filling == STATE_FINISHED |
| 13:52:22 | pondlife | Ah, ok - so that test is stopping the codec when there's no more data? |
| 13:53:02 | Nico_P | it's also supposed to have id3 == NULL when playlist_end is true |
| 13:53:17 | pondlife | That should all come out in the wash |
| 13:53:24 | Nico_P | I hope so |
| 13:53:43 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: if it gets that far it means the ISR would have to be functioning? |
| 13:54:01 | Nico_P | I want to fix the problem in audio_current_track for back skipping, and then go back to rewriting audio_check_new_track |
| 13:54:18 | Nico_P | but I have less time for rockbox these days |
| 13:54:30 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: not necessarily. It means that there is an electrical connection, |
| 13:54:41 | pondlife | Nico_P: It happens to us all :) |
| 13:55:21 | Nico_P | I saw MarcGuay also reported a bug with my latest changes |
| 13:55:36 | gevaerts | but I'm a bit worried at seeing the "full speed" there. It might mean the the phy (i.e. the isp1504) is not initialized properly |
| 13:56:40 | pondlife | Nico_P: Yes, but I can't repro that.. FLAC only I guess? |
| 13:56:44 | Nico_P | maybe |
| 13:56:46 | * | pondlife has no FLACs |
| 13:57:01 | Nico_P | I think I have some of amiconn's left on the video |
| 13:58:30 | Nico_P | hmm yeah I got it to start skipping all tracks one by one |
| 13:58:39 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: It tries high speed. I thought the protocol itself dealt with the registers on that IC. In fact it says not to write them throught the ULPI window |
| 13:59:20 | pondlife | Nico_P: Maybe your ogg fix borked FLAC? |
| 13:59:22 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: it shouldn't be needed, but for some unknown reason high speed doesn't work at all |
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| 14:01:12 | Nico_P | pondlife: I think it's more likely to be with the buffering rework |
| 14:01:30 | Nico_P | I had similar problems before but I thought I had fixed them... shouldn't be too hard to find though |
| 14:01:33 | pondlife | Probably, I was being hopeful |
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| 14:01:52 | pondlife | It's working fine for MP3s here so please don't revert it all :) |
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| 14:17:39 | jhMikeS | I actually get far enough that it fires an OTG interrupt if using ULPI |
| 14:17:50 | jhMikeS | but then it freezes |
| 14:18:24 | gevaerts | Can you see what sort of interrupt (in REG_USBINTR) ? |
| 14:19:32 | jhMikeS | will check that |
| 14:20:04 | jhMikeS | it tries to enter the USB screen and freezes at that point |
| 14:20:31 | jhMikeS | no graphic (maybe just bad address access) |
| 14:20:48 | gevaerts | If it tries to enter the USB screen, that means it got a correct packet from the host |
| 14:21:03 | jhMikeS | REG_USBINTR or REG_USBSTS? |
| 14:21:39 | * | jhMikeS will provide another patch to log |
| 14:22:41 | gevaerts | REG_USBSTS. Sorry |
| 14:22:59 | * | gevaerts is using most of his brain elsewhere |
| 14:23:33 | pondlife | Nico_P: I got rid of playlist_end completely and it seems to still work.. have tried mp3/ogg only though |
| 14:23:39 | jhMikeS | jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS2.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS2.diff <= will lock the player :) |
| 14:23:59 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: On it |
| 14:24:36 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: revert the previous first? |
| 14:24:38 | Nico_P | pondlife: there might be a few edge cases to check |
| 14:24:44 | jhMikeS | BigBambi: yes |
| 14:24:45 | pondlife | I'm sure there are... |
| 14:24:48 | jhMikeS | It might just be some mem access miscellany |
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| 14:24:52 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS With or without high speed? |
| 14:25:05 | jhMikeS | beh try high speed :) |
| 14:25:08 | pondlife | Nico_P: Also, I'm only on a sim |
| 14:25:08 | gevaerts | Can you do both ? |
| 14:25:14 | BigBambi | sure |
| 14:25:18 | michael1486 | Does anyone know who works/worked on rockboy? |
| 14:25:34 | B4gder | michael1486: nobody is |
| 14:25:35 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: "no graphic" is probably the same problem as with icons and bitmaps in plugins |
| 14:25:58 | michael1486 | really? |
| 14:26:04 | B4gder | yes really |
| 14:26:12 | B4gder | it's been at this state for a long time by now |
| 14:26:36 | pondlife | michael1486: Perhaps you would like to take it on? |
| 14:26:57 | B4gder | we have a vacancy in the rockboy department! |
| 14:27:00 | michael1486 | i dont know much about it but i could try.... |
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| 14:28:01 | GodEater | didn't kkburjun work on rockboy ? |
| 14:28:48 | B4gder | he did |
| 14:28:49 | BigBambi | jhMikeS, gevaerts: With HIGH_SPEED: http://www.pastebin.ca/985926 - the player didn't lock up though |
| 14:28:54 | B4gder | and midgey did some too apparently |
| 14:29:34 | B4gder | 14 months since the last somewhat bigger change |
| 14:29:39 | michael1486 | how hard is it to make a program work with greyscale? |
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| 14:30:21 | B4gder | michael1486: that's a very general question that can only get a very general answer |
| 14:30:43 | B4gder | "a program" being rockboy you mean? |
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| 14:31:44 | PaulJam | Someone can close FS #7318 |
| 14:31:45 | jhMikeS | BigBambi: did the screen switch? |
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| 14:31:52 | pondlife | Nico_P: Shall I pop a patch up, or commit, or neither... |
| 14:32:01 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: No |
| 14:32:13 | michael1486 | yes. would it be hard to take a greyscale module and put it in rockboy? |
| 14:32:22 | Nico_P | pondlife: I'd like to see the patch... does it fix the stop issue too? |
| 14:32:25 | pondlife | Yes |
| 14:32:27 | jhMikeS | It won't draw the transparent bitmaps though but the menu should disappear (does here) |
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| 14:32:55 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS And without HIGH_SPEED: http://www.pastebin.ca/985930 (still screen change/lockup) |
| 14:32:56 | pondlife | Nico_P: http://www.pastebin.ca/985931 |
| 14:33:02 | B4gder | michael1486: I believe it already works on some greyscale targets |
| 14:33:14 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: I'll try a full revert and repatch to make sure |
| 14:33:15 | pondlife | All that does is remove playlist_end, literally |
| 14:33:32 | pondlife | I've tried a playlist with ogg + mp3 + wma and all seemed fine (on sim) |
| 14:33:45 | michael1486 | i mean for ipod.... |
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| 14:34:01 | Nico_P | pondlife: yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be fine |
| 14:34:09 | * | jhMikeS should probably fix the transparent bitmaps now |
| 14:34:10 | Nico_P | pondlife: have you tried stopping manually? |
| 14:34:13 | pondlife | Yes |
| 14:34:27 | PaulJam | michael1486: which ipod? |
| 14:34:34 | pondlife | Not tried auto-dir change yet.... |
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| 14:34:47 | michael1486 | mini |
| 14:35:03 | pondlife | Nor repeat |
| 14:35:13 | gevaerts | BigBambi: are the first 4 lines from an OF connection ? |
| 14:35:36 | PaulJam | michael1486: afaik the problem with the mini is, that noone implemented downscaling for screenresolution. |
| 14:35:47 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Ah yes, might be |
| 14:35:48 | BigBambi | Sorry |
| 14:35:52 | Nico_P | pondlife: I had done the same change, and like you didn't see any problems. I guess you could commit |
| 14:36:09 | pondlife | Repeat works, I'll just try auto dir change. |
| 14:36:10 | BigBambi | I forgot I reconnected inbetween and just copied from the end of the previous |
| 14:36:13 | pondlife | Any other cases? |
| 14:36:25 | Nico_P | manual dir change, but I don't see why that would break |
| 14:36:30 | michael1486 | couldent i take the greyscale module form mpeg player? |
| 14:36:47 | pondlife | Nico_P: You mean skip dir? That's fine |
| 14:36:54 | gevaerts | BigBambi: are you using USE_HIGH_SPEED correctly ? |
| 14:37:12 | Nico_P | pondlife: yeah, that's what I meant... I say commit then :) |
| 14:37:25 | BigBambi | gevaerts: I put a #define USE_HIGH_SPEED in firmware/export/config-gigabeat-s.h |
| 14:37:33 | gevaerts | ok. that should be fine |
| 14:37:44 | * | Nico_P goes to shower and will try to fix FS #8893 after that |
| 14:37:48 | * | gevaerts doesn't understand why it still always connects at full speed |
| 14:38:01 | BigBambi | gevaerts: I'll try again just to make sure |
| 14:38:23 | pondlife | Nico_P: It's done... |
| 14:38:59 | jhMikeS | is there something that has to be changed in order for current_vp to be defined? |
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| 14:41:58 | jhMikeS | strange to have an undefined reference to it |
| 14:42:01 | amiconn | PaulJam, michael1486: Nobody implemented either general or special scaling routines for the greyscale ipod's pixel packing |
| 14:42:34 | amiconn | There are general scaling routines for colour, and special ones for iriver H1x0 + iaudio M5, and for archos recorder |
| 14:43:00 | michael1486 | i can play movies on my mini though..... |
| 14:43:14 | amiconn | Sure |
| 14:43:29 | * | amiconn is mr. greyscale library |
| 14:43:30 | PaulJam | the movies don't have to be resized/scaled |
| 14:43:55 | michael1486 | no but i do it to save space.... |
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| 14:44:57 | PaulJam | i meant that you do the resizing on the pc, so rockbox doesn't have to do any resizing when playing back the video |
| 14:45:28 | michael1486 | yes i have done itt with bigger movies but not the small ones... |
| 14:46:05 | jhMikeS | ah, nm, it was static'ed in lcd-16bit.c |
| 14:46:17 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS http://www.pastebin.ca/985944 |
| 14:48:14 | gevaerts | There is something wrong at the PHY level. It should _never_ detect or try low speed |
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| 14:49:35 | jhMikeS | hmmm |
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| 14:51:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: If you read the logs, I had mentioned that compiling a Gigabeat S bootloader from source had failed. |
| 14:52:27 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: I hadn't yet. BTW, what failed exactly? |
| 14:52:42 | jhMikeS | if it's logged i'll just look |
| 14:52:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's logged. I hope the pastebin is still there. |
| 14:53:13 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: bootloader build failure for me: http://www.pastebin.ca/985948 |
| 14:53:40 | jhMikeS | ah, that's np to fix |
| 14:54:16 | jhMikeS | config.h just isn't defining the presence of that kernel object |
| 14:54:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | BigBambi: Yes, that's the same error I got. |
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| 14:55:27 | michael1486 | smaller in mb not in resolution... |
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| 15:01:31 | PaulJam | michael1486: if the resolution of the movie doesn't match the screens resolution, then the movie either gets cropped or doesn't fill the whole screen. mpegplayer doesn't do any scaling. |
| 15:02:16 | michael1486 | too bad.... |
| 15:02:35 | michael1486 | how hard would it be to do it from scratch? |
| 15:03:15 | PaulJam | i guess that highly depends on your skills. |
| 15:03:59 | michael1486 | i stink.....but i have c++ for dummies.....i might be able to do it............. |
| 15:04:07 | BigBambi | michael1486: On the fly scaling would be pretty hard work for our limited CPUs.... |
| 15:04:27 | michael1486 | what about modified roms? |
| 15:05:21 | BigBambi | gameboy roms? |
| 15:05:26 | BigBambi | And what about them? |
| 15:05:45 | PaulJam | i doubt that this would work, rockboy just emulates the gameboy hardware. |
| 15:06:00 | michael1486 | couldent you modify them to be greyscale/smaller? |
| 15:06:38 | michael1486 | gameboy advance only has like 5 or 6 mgz.... |
| 15:06:52 | BigBambi | Plus everything else |
| 15:06:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rubbish. The GBA is a 16 MHz ARM7 CPU. |
| 15:07:06 | BigBambi | Emulation is very hard work |
| 15:07:35 | michael1486 | i checked out the gba linux page.... |
| 15:07:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | michael1486: And what does size of the ROM itself have to do with anything? |
| 15:08:10 | michael1486 | the smaller the size the less data to be processed... |
| 15:08:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | michael1486: No, that is irrelevant. |
| 15:08:36 | BigBambi | Ummmm |
| 15:08:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | A Game Boy ROM can be 128KB is size. That doesn't mean "less data to be processed". |
| 15:08:58 | michael1486 | well you could mod the pictures within the rom? |
| 15:09:50 | michael1486 | is'nt the rom a compression medium? |
| 15:10:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | That doesn't change anything. |
| 15:11:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | michael1486: Before you say anything else, I suggest you go and read up more on the subject. |
| 15:11:26 | michael1486 | you could mod the rom so you wouldent need to greyscale it.... |
| 15:11:29 | michael1486 | sorrt |
| 15:11:33 | michael1486 | sorry |
| 15:13:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | michael1486: Modding the ROM is *not* (I repeat... *is not*) going to change the fact that we still need a greyscale library for Rockbox. |
| 15:13:43 | michael1486 | how could i get/make that? |
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| 15:14:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | The greyscale library is already in the source, but it's only needed for devices that have a greyscale or monochrome LCD. |
| 15:15:28 | michael1486 | ok |
| 15:15:33 | michael1486 | thanks |
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| 15:19:08 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wants to get back to checking out the Gigabeat S work |
| 15:20:38 | michael1486 | bye and thanks to all! |
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| 15:46:45 | ByeongKeon | gevaerts : HI. |
| 15:47:28 | gevaerts | hello |
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| 15:47:38 | ByeongKeon | gevaerts : I update my assessment. now, it can display P3 PPM file to LCD. |
| 15:47:42 | ByeongKeon | gevaerts : I left URL(http://skysign.dyndns.org/ppmviewer April 15 1300 UTC.zip) on my application. |
| 15:48:31 | gevaerts | ByeongKeon: thanks. We'll have a look at it soon |
| 15:49:14 | troy_ | e you a programmer? do you know any thing about the hitachi sh3 cpu? |
| 15:50:24 | ByeongKeon | troy_ : hello troy_. |
| 15:50:51 | ByeongKeon | troy_ : a few years ago, I used it. |
| 15:50:56 | troy_ | hello byeon |
| 15:54:54 | ByeongKeon | troy_ : what do you want to know about sh3 cpu? |
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| 16:09:00 | pondlife | What's the criteria for inclusion of a target in the build system? |
| 16:09:18 | pondlife | Is it arbitrary? |
| 16:09:51 | Nico_P | pretty much |
| 16:10:10 | pondlife | It would probably be good if the 'Beast stuff was included, no? |
| 16:10:25 | pondlife | "Make the gigabeat S bootloader compile again." |
| 16:10:40 | pondlife | That way we'd see any damage.. |
| 16:11:26 | Nico_P | I guess you need to talk to Bagder about that |
| 16:11:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | I think we should start including it. |
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| 16:11:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | The port is coming along to the point where it would be a wise choice to. |
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| 16:12:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've already got it running on mine. |
| 16:12:11 | pondlife | It's not a biggie, but a policy of "the more the merrier" might be nice... just need to get the table width under control :) |
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| 17:22:03 | * | petur wonders if jhMikeS is going to fix the red |
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| 17:28:00 | PaulJam | hi, |
| 17:28:30 | PaulJam | sorry, pressed enter istead of space |
| 17:30:08 | mcuelenaere | how do you force gcc generating STRH instead of STRB on a *(volatile unsigned short*) ? |
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| 17:33:41 | PaulJam | i read somewhere that it is possible to use an mp3player as a infrared remote by playing back a file that was previously recorded through an ir receiver and connecting an IR LED to the headphone output. so i was wondering if the reverse procedure would be theoretically possible: connect an IR receiver to the mic input and have a tsr plugin analyze the signal to be able to control playback on the player with an IR remote. would this work? |
| 17:36:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | PaulJam: It could. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infra-Red#Communications |
| 17:37:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | A little OT: I read that it's possible to record an IR signal as a WAV file and play it back on a DAP. Some people have tested this with Tamagotchi communication signals. Google for more info. |
| 17:37:47 | * | LambdaCalculus37 returns to our regularly scheduled program, already in progress. :) |
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| 17:44:08 | * | pondlife wants to see the top row of the build table fill in as soon as the particular build is done... |
| 17:44:16 | pondlife | Instant red spotting |
| 17:44:28 | pondlife | None of this suspense |
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| 17:46:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | pondlife: The reds are declaring an error in line 343 of rolo.c. |
| 17:47:00 | pondlife | Not any more |
| 17:47:46 | pondlife | I mean, while the build is in progress, it would be nice if the top line (grey) could fill in block-by- block. Probably kill the build server bandwidth though :) |
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| 17:48:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah, no more red. :) |
| 17:50:41 | pondlife | Having mopped up that red, I am now in credit so can add my own red later... 798 points to spend, I reckon. ;) |
| 17:51:13 | gevaerts | Have fun with them ;) |
| 17:51:29 | pondlife | I'll probably spend them on Archos sims (again) |
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| 18:02:00 | jhMikeS | eek red |
| 18:02:11 | pondlife | Fear not |
| 18:02:30 | pondlife | You may have a (void)i that need an #ifdef still, but I did a quick mop |
| 18:02:51 | jhMikeS | pondlife: thanks. |
| 18:03:05 | pondlife | No worries, you have enough good work to do elsewhere anyway |
| 18:03:20 | * | jhMikeS had to haul out of here for a bit |
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| 18:07:33 | jhMikeS | well one warning is back but it's not so bothersome I guess |
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| 18:16:08 | * | jhMikeS finally figures out Nico_P make logf disabled by default in a logf build :\ |
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| 18:16:41 | Nico_P | sorry about that :/ |
| 18:17:05 | jhMikeS | :_) |
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| 18:17:47 | alphanumeric | Is there a place where I can watch the USB driver status besides reading through every single subversion change? |
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| 18:19:39 | n1s | alphanumeric: svn log -r 17000:HEAD | grep -i usb |
| 18:20:37 | pixelma | bah, rockbox.org's webclient is less fun than ever by far (with a large gap)... count lag in minutes and unstable :\ |
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| 18:21:17 | alphanumeric | n1s: I don't understand that at all. Is that linux or can I use tortoiseSVN to do that? |
| 18:22:46 | n1s | alphanumeric: you can enter that in a linux shell... (maybe you need rockbox svn checked out) |
| 18:23:22 | DerPapst | pixelma: got my pm? |
| 18:23:37 | alphanumeric | n1s: oh, I'm on XP, so I don't think that will work without some sort of VM. |
| 18:23:53 | bluebrother | you can also open the svn changelog page and use your browsers search function to search for the string usb |
| 18:23:55 | n1s | if you need the actual status without a dev environment i don't think there's any other way than looking through the revisions on the webpage |
| 18:24:12 | bluebrother | or use the command line svn client for windows in conjunction with grep from the gnuwin32 project. |
| 18:24:15 | alphanumeric | bluebrother: I do that all the time, I was just wondering if there was an easier way. |
| 18:24:42 | n1s | but whenever it is enabled for official builds I am sure it will be mentioned at least in the MajorChanges page in the wiki |
| 18:24:47 | bluebrother | oh, and using cygwin is also a possiblilty |
| 18:24:51 | n1s | and probably on the frontpage |
| 18:25:31 | alphanumeric | n1s: okay thanks, n1s. I just love to watch the status, wish it had RSS or something on the SVN. |
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| 18:25:56 | n1s | alphanumeric: I think there is an rss feed somewhere |
| 18:25:58 | bluebrother | alphanumeric: there is an rss feed of the rockbox-cvs mailing list |
| 18:26:42 | n1s | http://cia.vc/stats/project/rockbox/.rss |
| 18:26:56 | alphanumeric | awesome, thanks guys! |
| 18:26:57 | * | n1s googled "rockbox svn rss" |
| 18:27:12 | * | bluebrother points to http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.archos.rockbox.cvs |
| 18:27:29 | alphanumeric | sorry, I usually recognize it by the icon (since I didn't see it, I assumed it wasn't there). |
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| 18:28:58 | alphanumeric | Again thank you guys so much. You guys are amazing. |
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| 19:00:40 | preglow | is implicit conversion from a larger integral type to a smaller one really legal in c? |
| 19:01:33 | domonoky | as you can loose something with it, you should get a warning i think.. |
| 19:01:44 | preglow | yeah, that's what i thought as well, but gcc is strangely silent... |
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| 19:02:01 | gevaerts | What's the context ? |
| 19:02:13 | domonoky | are all warnings on ? maybe we suppress this warnings... :-) |
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| 19:02:39 | preglow | context is doing "return something_that_is_size_t;" in a function returning "unsigned" |
| 19:02:46 | preglow | domonoky: -Wall |
| 19:03:38 | domonoky | isnt size_t unsigned int ? |
| 19:03:43 | preglow | size |
| 19:03:49 | preglow | size_t is unsigned long on 64 bit platforms |
| 19:03:51 | preglow | this isn't on target |
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| 19:05:05 | domonoky | so perhaps the question is more: what does gcc make out of "unsigned" a 32bit unsigned ? a unsigned long ? |
| 19:05:23 | linuxstb | IIUC the default type in C is an "int". |
| 19:05:38 | preglow | yeah |
| 19:06:11 | bluebrother | shouldn't gcc whine about some implicit type anyway? |
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| 19:07:42 | preglow | i can't make gcc complain even if i clearly give the size_t a 64 bit value |
| 19:08:04 | Gartral | hello.... i found a difference with the Sansa e200 series v1 and v2... the v2 has "SanDisk" above the screen, where the the v1 doesnt |
| 19:11:03 | gevaerts | preglow: for what architecture are you compiling ? |
| 19:11:40 | gevaerts | Gartral: one big problem with all these "rules" is that sandisk sometimes deviates from them |
| 19:11:55 | preglow | gevaerts: local, amd64 |
| 19:12:00 | DerPapst | at least it's an indicator. |
| 19:12:57 | advcomp2019 | Gartral, gevaerts is right.. the easiest is with firmware version |
| 19:15:47 | jhMikeS | toffe82: any chance to find out which PMIC pin the 5.0V power supply is on? |
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| 19:18:58 | ved | preglow: hehe without −−pedantic gcc seems not to care about void* arithmetic too. tried −−pedantic anyway? |
| 19:19:00 | gevaerts | preglow: -Wconversion will warn about those. It's not enabled by -Wall or -Wextra apparently |
| 19:19:28 | jhMikeS | gcc explicitely states it supports void * artithmetic |
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| 19:20:21 | gevaerts | And downsizing to an unsigned value is well-defined, so warnings there can be annoying |
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| 19:21:56 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: I will try to do it tonight, you want 5v coming from the DC jack to the mc13783 ? |
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| 19:22:43 | jhMikeS | no, it shows a 5V line coming from the mc13783 to a current limiter (VBUS). I suspect it's just an OTG host thing though. |
| 19:22:58 | toffe82 | ok |
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| 19:26:20 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: they could have used the usb from the mc13783 to make thing easier |
| 19:28:25 | jhMikeS | it doesn't support high speed though |
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| 19:29:21 | jhMikeS | toffe82: Also, knowing the power supply line of the ISP might tell something but I'm guessing it's powered. |
| 19:30:04 | * | jhMikeS needs to verify all the pins and pll's (tedious) :( |
| 19:30:43 | toffe82 | the one to the current limiter just before the isp ? |
| 19:31:25 | preglow | gevaerts: thanks, weird that not everything is added by -Wall... |
| 19:31:29 | jhMikeS | well, two: 1) The power supply to the ISP 2) The 5V to the current limiter (probably host-only) |
| 19:31:54 | * | toffe82 will put is 10x magnifier on to do that |
| 19:31:58 | bluebrother | gevaerts_: what happened to the tests for SoC students? Isn't the period over? |
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| 19:33:12 | toffe82 | :) |
| 19:33:24 | whoever_ | hi together. on my iAudio I have a problem with my filesystem. So I want to format it. so can I just copy the files on iAudio, and format the FAT-System, and copy the files back to run rockbox on the system again? |
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| 19:33:41 | UncleRemus | Has there been any improvements to rockbox for iPod (Photo) in terms of battery life the last half year? |
| 19:33:58 | bluebrother | UncleRemus: read the MajorChanges wiki page ... |
| 19:34:02 | n1s | whoever_: yes |
| 19:34:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | whoever_: Just not in that order. :) |
| 19:34:22 | whoever_ | LambdaCalculus37, what do you mean? |
| 19:34:36 | UncleRemus | I tried it and loved it, but the battery life was unfortunately too short. |
| 19:34:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Wait... nevermind. Read it wrong. Sorry. |
| 19:34:43 | whoever_ | n1s, are you shure? |
| 19:34:50 | UncleRemus | bluebrother: OK. |
| 19:34:55 | whoever_ | so there can nothing happen? |
| 19:35:04 | bluebrother | UncleRemus: did you read that page? There is an entry of the 10th of february this year ... |
| 19:35:10 | n1s | whoever_: yes |
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| 19:35:18 | whoever_ | thanks alot... - you are great:)! |
| 19:35:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | whoever_: Yes, back up, format as FAT32, then put everything back. |
| 19:35:43 | whoever_ | ok |
| 19:35:45 | n1s | Iaudios are actually more brick proof than ipods :) |
| 19:35:47 | whoever_ | format as FAT32 |
| 19:35:56 | n1s | yep |
| 19:35:59 | whoever_ | LambdaCalculus37, do I need a backup from a boot-sector or something like that? |
| 19:36:05 | n1s | nope |
| 19:36:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | whoever_: No. |
| 19:36:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | Just back up your files. |
| 19:36:19 | whoever_ | ok - tanks alot! |
| 19:36:38 | whoever_ | and do you have a special trick for iAudios? with some setitngs or something like that? |
| 19:36:54 | * | LambdaCalculus37 doesn't own an iAUDIO |
| 19:36:56 | whoever_ | is it better for the battery, if I have a small buffer-time? |
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| 19:37:41 | n1s | whoever_: are you talking about the "anti-skip buffer" ? |
| 19:38:11 | whoever_ | hmm... I'm talking about the time how many time of a song he take in the flash (or RAM:)?) |
| 19:38:18 | whoever_ | (that was to n1s ) |
| 19:38:56 | n1s | I'm sorry but I don't understand, could you rephrase that? |
| 19:38:59 | UncleRemus | bluebrother: Yes, I just saw it. Do you know anything more specific, is it worth the upgrade? Is it a major improvement? (thanks for the tip also) |
| 19:39:02 | whoever_ | sorry, I'm German :) _ so I have a b ad english:D |
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| 19:39:25 | bluebrother | UncleRemus: yes, it's major. IIRC some other small improvements have happened over time too. |
| 19:39:58 | UncleRemus | It says "resulting in a large savings in power..." |
| 19:40:00 | bluebrother | besides, the linked svn log message tells quite a bit |
| 19:40:16 | UncleRemus | Wohooo! Back to rockbox again! |
| 19:40:32 | bluebrother | "we now appreach the OF runtime on several PP devices" |
| 19:40:43 | bluebrother | try it yourself :) |
| 19:40:48 | whoever_ | n1s, under settings > general settings > play back |
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| 19:41:03 | whoever_ | and yes - there I mean the anti-skip buffer :) - sorry, under gmerman it is different |
| 19:41:03 | whoever_ | :) |
| 19:41:11 | whoever_ | what does this buffer do:)? |
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| 19:41:43 | UncleRemus | bluebrother: What is the linked svn message? |
| 19:41:56 | UncleRemus | Is it for main.c? |
| 19:41:58 | n1s | whoever_: if you increase that rockbox will rebuffer _earlier_, so if it has trouble reading the HD it has more time, but this _decreases_ battery life |
| 19:42:05 | n1s | s/life/time/ |
| 19:42:16 | domonoky | whoever_: it controls how much is always kept in buffer, so the higher it is, the earlyer the disk spins up again.. |
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| 19:42:28 | bluebrother | UncleRemus: click on the entry on the MajorChanges page ... |
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| 19:42:39 | gevaerts | bluebrother: the period is over, yes |
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| 19:42:43 | whoever_ | ok - and which settings else safe the battery-life? |
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| 19:43:00 | whoever_ | (to all, special domonoky , n1s ) |
| 19:43:44 | UncleRemus | OK, yes that was what I was reading. Thanks for this, I'll install rockbox again |
| 19:43:49 | bluebrother | UncleRemus: and the log message applies to all files that were committed in that revision |
| 19:44:10 | * | bluebrother goes pointing to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility ;-) |
| 19:44:26 | n1s | the defaults are pretty efficient, all dsp things use a bit of battery, like eq crossfeed etc, naturally keeping the backlight on as little as possible and with low brightness helps |
| 19:45:02 | bluebrother | gevaerts: any students pending? Are the results public? |
| 19:45:10 | whoever_ | n1s, the backlight is on a optimum on my iAudio - but thanks alot:D |
| 19:45:14 | gevaerts | bluebrother: we have one interview to go |
| 19:45:20 | whoever_ | and i load the directory to the buffer - I think that helps' |
| 19:45:33 | UncleRemus | bluebrother: And taking a "Current Rockbox Build" will incorporate this, right? |
| 19:46:03 | BigBambi | Yes |
| 19:46:26 | n1s | whoever_: "directory cache" (as it is called in English) helps battery time _if_ you browse your files a lot |
| 19:46:54 | whoever_ | I do that:) |
| 19:46:57 | whoever_ | so thanks alot:) |
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| 19:47:25 | whoever_ | I love Rockbox - and i programmed my own WPS - btu I don't understand everything, so I'm very happy about this channel |
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| 19:49:25 | jhMikeS | Hmmm..."A wakeup operation is required before accessing the registers when the |
| 19:49:25 | jhMikeS | ULPI interface is operating in low power mode, serial mode, or car-kit mode." |
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| 19:59:38 | homielowe | jhMikeS: Thanks for fixing bootloader compiling on the gigabeaSt |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:25 | jhMikeS | homielowe: np. does it still work? |
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| 20:01:10 | homielowe | jhMikeS: Just compiled on ubuntu 7.10 and compiled clean without errors. |
| 20:02:25 | jhMikeS | now I'm wondering if it actually boots it :) |
| 20:03:26 | homielowe | jhMikeS: Not enough time to test here, maybe in seven hours :P |
| 20:03:38 | * | BigBambi will try |
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| 20:08:47 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: Yes, it still boots Rockbox |
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| 20:13:49 | jhMikeS | BigBambi: nice. thanks for checking. |
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| 20:13:57 | BigBambi | no problems |
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| 20:14:46 | ]3six5[ | help! |
| 20:15:04 | ]3six5[ | sansa e260 ain't detecting sd cards |
| 20:15:16 | BigBambi | What version of rockbox? |
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| 20:15:24 | scorche|sh | you are going to have to be a bit more descriptive of that.. |
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| 20:15:38 | ]3six5[ | r16873-080329 |
| 20:16:08 | * | ]3six5[ shrugs |
| 20:16:12 | ]3six5[ | i just gots it |
| 20:16:16 | BigBambi | Please update to the current build, try again, if it still doesn't work, give us more details |
| 20:16:33 | ]3six5[ | :o |
| 20:16:51 | jhMikeS | checking the debug screen might tell if it's not detecting or just not mounting |
| 20:17:04 | gevaerts | Does the card work in the OF ? |
| 20:17:20 | ]3six5[ | cards work in my phone and in the card reader |
| 20:17:29 | ]3six5[ | dunno about the original firmware |
| 20:17:40 | BigBambi | Any chance you could check? |
| 20:17:49 | ]3six5[ | i got this sansa pre-loaded w/ rockbox |
| 20:18:00 | BigBambi | The manual will tell you that it can dual boot |
| 20:18:18 | gevaerts | What size is the card ? |
| 20:18:46 | ]3six5[ | i've got a 2gb sd micros and a couple 4gb sdhc's |
| 20:18:52 | ]3six5[ | none of'm register |
| 20:18:56 | bertrik | a 4GB sdhc micro-sd card works fine here with v17121 |
| 20:19:06 | ]3six5[ | ah |
| 20:19:11 | BigBambi | ]3six5[: Could you answer jhMikeS's question above? |
| 20:19:13 | ]3six5[ | i gotta update this puppy |
| 20:19:23 | * | BigBambi gives up |
| 20:19:29 | gevaerts | I would suggest to try the 2gb card in the original firmware first |
| 20:19:31 | ]3six5[ | i'm flippin through the debug now |
| 20:19:38 | ]3six5[ | where should i look exactly? |
| 20:19:58 | whoever_ | @ all : can I publish a WPS when the background is under the Creative Common license? |
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| 20:20:19 | BigBambi | whoever_: So long as you fulfil all requirements of the licence, yes |
| 20:20:45 | whoever_ | BigBambi, so i just have to name the creator of the background:)? |
| 20:20:59 | ]3six5[ | thank you much BigBambi for bringing the current build to my attention |
| 20:20:59 | BigBambi | whoever_: If that is what the background licence says |
| 20:21:08 | amiconn | Rincewind: Here now |
| 20:21:26 | whoever_ | ok - then I can - so I would do it - but I'm not sure if it is useful:D |
| 20:21:36 | BigBambi | ]3six5[: No probs - we do ask you always update before requesting support in case a problem has already been fixed |
| 20:21:48 | BigBambi | whoever_: If what is useful? |
| 20:21:54 | whoever_ | my WPS:) |
| 20:21:57 | Rincewind | amiconn: I'm eating at the moment. I send you a private message later |
| 20:22:17 | BigBambi | whoever_: You never know :) |
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| 20:24:04 | whoever_ | BigBambi, you can look www.ruben-online.ch/1.bmp an www.ruben-online.ch/2.bmp |
| 20:24:42 | BigBambi | whoever_: Looks good to me - I'm sure some people would appreciate it if you submitted it |
| 20:25:12 | whoever_ | so I would try to can do it on the WPS-Page |
| 20:26:11 | BigBambi | Sure, check the instructions on WpsGallery, then select the correct page for the theme |
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| 20:30:12 | ]3six5[ | hmm, updated, msd: not present |
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| 20:30:39 | BigBambi | ]3six5[: And does the Sansa firmware read the 2GB card? |
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| 20:31:14 | uyriry686 | www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk XXX BRUNETTES |
| 20:31:15 | | Part uyriry686 |
| 20:31:55 | * | LambdaCalculus37 readies a 16-ton weight for the next spammer |
| 20:32:05 | icemang | haha, i'm totally going to that website |
| 20:32:08 | * | icemang rolls eyes |
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| 20:33:12 | ]3six5[ | umm.. |
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| 20:34:41 | ]3six5[ | give me a minute.. going to try to rebuild the file structure on that card. was mainly used for my phone |
| 20:36:24 | ]3six5[ | doh |
| 20:36:38 | ]3six5[ | #-o |
| 20:36:38 | icemang | ? |
| 20:36:48 | ]3six5[ | the card wasn't going in all the way |
| 20:36:51 | icemang | doh |
| 20:36:54 | ]3six5[ | lmao |
| 20:37:01 | * | icemang faceplams ]3six5[ |
| 20:37:13 | ]3six5[ | it would half click.. and it felt like it was securely in there |
| 20:37:29 | icemang | let's not get excited |
| 20:37:31 | * | ]3six5[ blushes |
| 20:37:34 | icemang | does it recognize the card now? |
| 20:37:34 | ]3six5[ | its reading it |
| 20:37:36 | ]3six5[ | yea |
| 20:37:38 | icemang | awesome |
| 20:37:41 | ]3six5[ | <3 <# |
| 20:37:46 | ]3six5[ | thanks for all the help guys |
| 20:37:58 | ]3six5[ | i've never felt like such a newb |
| 20:38:13 | domonoky | can you all please stay within normal ascii, and pure english ? :-) |
| 20:38:29 | ]3six5[ | <3 |
| 20:38:33 | ]3six5[ | ^heart |
| 20:38:37 | ]3six5[ | that is normal ascii |
| 20:38:43 | Battousai | could also be an ice cream cone |
| 20:38:43 | BigBambi | ]3six5[: Stop it now |
| 20:38:52 | ]3six5[ | eek |
| 20:38:53 | ]3six5[ | ok |
| 20:38:57 | icemang | hahaha |
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| 20:39:00 | BigBambi | This is an on-topic channel, lets keep it that way |
| 20:39:00 | icemang | thanks #rockbox |
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| 20:39:03 | preglow | that is normal ascii.. |
| 20:39:27 | gevaerts | ]3six5[: the issue is that some people read this channel using screen readers or translation software, and all these smiley-like things are hard on them |
| 20:39:47 | ]3six5[ | ah |
| 20:39:48 | ]3six5[ | ok |
| 20:40:02 | daven | as is :-) |
| 20:40:12 | ]3six5[ | i'll leave all my alt+4321 hexcode outta this chat then |
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| 20:40:56 | ]3six5[ | i look forward to helping the chat/project out how ever i can in the future |
| 20:41:00 | ]3six5[ | thanks again y'all |
| 20:41:12 | BigBambi | no problems |
| 20:41:51 | PaulJam_ | hmm, second crash today :( time to use the official build for a while. |
| 20:43:02 | bertrik | it would be nice if I could search the bug tracker by player type |
| 20:45:18 | PaulJam_ | are there many bugs related to a specific player? |
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| 20:48:28 | bertrik | PaulJam_: I don't know, at least some are specific, it's a bit hard to tell without opening a bunch of them |
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| 20:53:54 | Llorean | bertrik: I don't think it would be too helpful, the very vast majority of tasks I've seen with the player type filled in have had it filled in by someone who doesn't know the bug is an issue on the software layer. |
| 20:54:26 | Llorean | It'd be much more useful if the tasks could have multiple players set and every commenter could add their player to the list if they were experiencing it, I suppose. |
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| 20:56:32 | bertrik | ok, but we have advanced search by even more advanced properties now, like "reported version", "due in version" and "percent complete" |
| 20:57:28 | Llorean | "due in version" at least was used quite a bit when we were trying to hit a release. |
| 20:57:45 | Llorean | "Percent Complete" would've been relevant then too. |
| 20:58:06 | Llorean | And "reported version" would've become relevant immediately after said release if it hadn't failed. |
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| 20:59:13 | bluebrother | a release is also a proposed topic for DevCon |
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| 21:00:18 | elinenbe | bluebrother: for the 3rd year in a row ;-) |
| 21:00:40 | bluebrother | elinenbe: maybe it'll work for the third attempt? |
| 21:00:44 | Llorean | bertrik: I just think that, with the way the reported player works now, someone searching by it is going to often be mislead by the results they get (especially users) |
| 21:01:17 | bluebrother | IMO a release would be good. I just don't see it approaching ... |
| 21:01:34 | * | bluebrother discovers some manuals being broken |
| 21:02:44 | bertrik | Llorean: ok sounds reasonable |
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| 21:04:09 | * | Nico_P agrees that a relase would be good |
| 21:05:00 | * | Llorean thinks his opinion on the matter is well known. :) |
| 21:06:25 | n1s | Nico_P: I think you know the playback code the best, do you think it's (close to) good enough for a release? |
| 21:06:48 | Nico_P | n1s: I think we're getting quite close |
| 21:07:00 | elinenbe | Nico_P: I think the buffereing code needs to support (jpg) coverart in the ID3 tags ;-) |
| 21:07:05 | * | bluebrother starts to get confused by this stupid way the history works on cmd.exe :( |
| 21:07:06 | Nico_P | I have a few bugfixes ready and a plan to rewrite audio_check_nex_track |
| 21:07:12 | Llorean | With the recent significant changes though, we're at a point where the status is somewhat unknown in terms of new problems that might show up over the next few days |
| 21:08:01 | BigBambi | elinenbe: I don't think embedded jpeg coverart is a v3 requisite :P |
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| 21:08:38 | gevaerts | I do think however that properly handling files where embedded jpeg coverart is present (by ignoring it) might be a requisite |
| 21:08:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | elinenbe: You're welcome to work on it, of course. :) |
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| 21:09:24 | * | gevaerts forgot about the "complaining==volumteering" part, and retracts his last statement |
| 21:09:25 | Llorean | gevaerts: I think in many cases we do ignore it, it's just cases where it's excessively large that are problematic so far? |
| 21:09:59 | n1s | I think that with a stable playback engine for swcodec we can simply feature freeze for about 2 weeks, fix what we can and then release |
| 21:10:40 | gevaerts | Llorean: the ones I have problems with are about 64k |
| 21:11:06 | bluebrother | maybe we should try to fix some other annoyances as well ... but a stable playback engine it the most important. |
| 21:11:19 | Llorean | gevaerts: That sounds somewhat large to me. |
| 21:11:39 | bluebrother | during that freeze we should also try to get devs updating / proof-reading the manual ;-) |
| 21:11:44 | gevaerts | Maybe. I don't have any other files with embedded jpegs, so I can't really compare |
| 21:12:14 | amiconn | Several swcodec targets have more or less severe non-playback related problems |
| 21:12:27 | n1s | bluebrother: my point is that we should _enter_ the freeze with a stable playback engine so that we have the base functionality already working well |
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| 21:13:31 | ZincAlloy | speaking of buffering code: yesterdays improvements are pretty cool, but I think there is some weired stuff going on: when I change to an unbuffered album after turning the backlight on it still takes rather long to buffer. when I try to do the same thing immediately afterwards (keeping the backlight on by browsing files while waiting for the hdd indicator to disappear) the new track loads really fast. is this |
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| 21:14:14 | PaulJam_ | ZincAlloy: your message was cut off |
| 21:15:06 | bluebrother | n1s: indeed, that would be a good start. |
| 21:15:23 | ZincAlloy | peaking of buffering code: yesterdays improvements are pretty cool, but I think there is some weired stuff going on: when I change to an unbuffered album after turning the backlight on it still takes rather long to buffer. when I try to do the same thing immediately afterwards (keeping the backlight on by browsing files while waiting for the hdd indicator to disappear) the new track loads really fast. is this |
| 21:15:33 | ZincAlloy | did it come through this time? |
| 21:15:42 | n1s | ZincAlloy: it's too long |
| 21:15:43 | amiconn | ZincAlloy: IRC has a line length limit... |
| 21:15:46 | BigBambi | ZincAlloy: Not all of it - check the logs |
| 21:15:57 | bluebrother | ZincAlloy: it was cut at "is this" |
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| 21:16:30 | ZincAlloy | ...a bug? |
| 21:16:43 | Horscht | it's a feature |
| 21:16:52 | ZincAlloy | oh, cool |
| 21:17:24 | Horscht | sounds like spin-up time to me |
| 21:17:29 | Nico_P | indeed |
| 21:17:47 | ZincAlloy | I see.. |
| 21:18:10 | ZincAlloy | let me try this again... |
| 21:18:10 | Horscht | I assume you are using a HD based target, no? |
| 21:18:23 | ZincAlloy | yes, iriver h300 |
| 21:18:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:19:20 | Horscht | the disk takes some time to spin up until the target can "use" it |
| 21:19:22 | bluebrother | wow, several manuals seem to be broken since around 200 revisions :( |
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| 21:23:39 | ZincAlloy | yeah, makes sense now. I didn't consider that the disk might still be spinning with no disc activity being indicated. thanks for the explanation! |
| 21:23:46 | n1s | bluebrother: ? |
| 21:24:04 | * | Nico_P farked up a commit message |
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| 21:24:23 | n1s | ZincAlloy: with a h300 you should be able to hear/feel the disk spinnign quite easily |
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| 21:25:29 | BigBambi | Nico_P: Ignore those pesky lines! |
| 21:25:52 | bluebrother | n1s: the pegbox plugin broke several manual builds ... like recorder, h10 and others |
| 21:25:56 | Nico_P | I think I inadvertantly changed something there |
| 21:26:25 | javaman | does rockbox use sdl? |
| 21:26:39 | javaman | if i was making a plugin could i make rockbox use sdl? |
| 21:26:48 | ZincAlloy | n1s: yes, definitely, though my h300 is still rather quiet compared to others.. |
| 21:27:10 | n1s | javaman: only the simulators use sdl |
| 21:27:13 | linuxstb | javaman: No. But there is a Rockbox simulator that uses SDL (building Rockbox as a PC application) |
| 21:27:18 | bluebrother | javaman: no. The sim is based on SDL but you can't use sdl functionality from plugins |
| 21:27:27 | javaman | oh |
| 21:27:59 | n1s | bluebrother: are you fixin manuals or should I? |
| 21:28:28 | n1s | We really need a better way to know the manuals are broken... |
| 21:28:38 | bluebrother | n1s: already committed ;-) |
| 21:28:49 | bluebrother | Nico_P: what happened to your latest commit message? |
| 21:29:01 | n1s | gr8 |
| 21:29:37 | bluebrother | but I agree that we need a better notification system for broken manuals. |
| 21:29:42 | Nico_P | bluebrother: I think I inadvertantly modified the line I was supposed to ignore |
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| 21:30:30 | bluebrother | aah ... just realized what the french text means ;-) |
| 21:31:46 | Horscht | "I surrender"? |
| 21:32:04 | Horscht | that was probably politicaly uncorrect... |
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| 22:31:26 | bluebrother | hmm, are svn usernames not case sensitive? |
| 22:32:00 | Bagder | no |
| 22:32:14 | Bagder | and no, I don't know why ;-) |
| 22:32:41 | gevaerts | Aren't you an svn developer ? ;-) |
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| 22:32:57 | bluebrother | ah, that explains me seeing two variants of a committer ;-) |
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| 22:33:50 | Bagder | I have 17 commits or something like that in the svn project, done for about 6 years ago |
| 22:34:05 | Bagder | I'm only in there for all the fame and glory |
| 22:34:09 | Bagder | :-P |
| 22:35:19 | gevaerts | 6 years ago ? hmm, isn't that about the time when username-case-sensitivity was decided ? |
| 22:35:40 | Bagder | most probably, but I can't recall that discussion at all! |
| 22:36:06 | Bagder | I guess the mail archives could reveal it... oh wait, I host them too! ;-O |
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| 22:37:07 | n1s | Bagder: Could we have some way to tell if the manual builds failed on the site, nothing fancy, just an indicator somwhere? |
| 22:37:43 | Bagder | we should indeed |
| 22:37:47 | n1s | Also it would be great if the old pdf's weren't deleted if the build failed (and the htmls weren't half-replaced) |
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| 22:38:30 | DerPapst | heh |
| 22:44:56 | Bagder | bertrik: I think FS #8898 looks fine! |
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| 22:46:17 | bertrik | Bagder: ok thanks |
| 22:48:25 | bertrik | I'll do some more testing to verify I didn't break anything, then I'll commit it, OK? |
| 22:48:43 | gevaerts | bertrik: try a c200 build as well |
| 22:49:14 | bertrik | gevaerts: good idea (I'll report back in about 12 minutes...) |
| 22:54:30 | bluebrother | Bagder: you could simply grep for a ! at the beginning of a line in the latex log file −− that indicates an error |
| 22:54:54 | bluebrother | (that's how I'm doing it in my nasty buildall script ;-) |
| 22:55:41 | Bagder | I'll give it a shot, but it'll probably take me a few days. |
| 22:58:19 | bluebrother | sure, no hurries. It worked fine the way it does right now for quite a while already :) |
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| 23:01:39 | fml | markun: ping |
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| 23:02:56 | markun | fml: pong (but was about to go to bed) |
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| 23:04:31 | markun | fml: I'll be back in a few minutes. If you have a question you can just ask it and I will reply when I get back. |
| 23:04:31 | fml | markun: ok. I wanted to ask something about nimbus-19 |
| 23:04:40 | markun | what about it? |
| 23:05:29 | fml | markun: I've been thinking about making capitals one pixel wider. So that the gap between the legs (e.g. in H) has the same width as the legs |
| 23:06:13 | markun | fml: you can also talk to pixelma about it. I think she has done more recent work on the nimbus fonts. |
| 23:06:22 | fml | markun: wouldn't it look nicer then? And if the dap has a wide enough screen (ipods, but not sansa e200) it might be an improvement |
| 23:06:47 | fml | So we could have two versions of it: normal and wide |
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| 23:07:19 | markun | fml: could you maybe make this second version and make screenshots of with the same text to show us? |
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| 23:07:53 | markun | it's usually how font changes get decided |
| 23:08:12 | fml | markun: that's the problem. I've changed some letters to make a sample but can't call the sample window in FontForge. I don't know why. |
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| 23:08:31 | markun | fml: but you could view a text in the rockbox sim |
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| 23:09:08 | fml | markun: yes, but that's much more hassle, and I'm lazy :-) |
| 23:09:12 | markun | otherwise I could do that, but not now |
| 23:10:12 | fml | The changes were really simple. Just make letters with vertical legs a bit wider. Was just an idea. |
| 23:10:24 | fml | Sure not now. Good night. |
| 23:10:38 | markun | can you put the font in the tracker when you are finished? |
| 23:10:50 | markun | then I can make the screenshots if you want |
| 23:10:58 | markun | and tell us which glyphs you changed |
| 23:11:23 | markun | good night |
| 23:11:31 | fml | markun: I just changed a couple of letters, the most obvious ones to get a first impression. But couln't get it :-) |
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| 23:16:21 | Nico_P | Bagder: has someone talked to you about adding the gigabeast to the build table? |
| 23:16:29 | Bagder | no |
| 23:16:48 | Nico_P | then I am :) what do you think? |
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| 23:19:22 | bluebrother | will it be named Gigabeast in the table? *g* |
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| 23:19:55 | fml | markun: (for the log): FS task added: FS #8899 (nice number, he-he) |
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| 23:21:36 | Bagder | if it builds I see nothing against adding it |
| 23:21:42 | Bagder | all three builds? |
| 23:22:04 | * | DerPapst waits for a new and shiny svg :-) |
| 23:22:42 | Nico_P | Bagder: at least the BL and the main bin build. the sim probably does too |
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| 23:23:26 | Nico_P | do you want me to check? |
| 23:23:48 | DerPapst | another 12 builds and the table doesn't fit on my screen anymore :-P |
| 23:24:12 | * | Nico_P still has room of he maximizes his browser window |
| 23:24:21 | Bagder | Nico_P: unless you feel like fixing reds ;-) |
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| 23:25:15 | Bagder | any point in collecting zips at this point? |
| 23:25:23 | Nico_P | no |
| 23:26:16 | Nico_P | ATM we send tars to the device |
| 23:27:02 | Bagder | nk.bin is the bootloader output filename, right? |
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| 23:27:30 | Nico_P | yes |
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| 23:28:28 | Bagder | added! |
| 23:28:50 | Bagder | now commit something fun and let us see! |
| 23:29:05 | Nico_P | :) |
| 23:29:16 | * | gevaerts thinks that DerPapst has a fun patch to commit |
| 23:30:26 | DerPapst | 1D Tetris! http://pastebin.ca/986526 |
| 23:30:30 | DerPapst | :-P |
| 23:31:12 | gevaerts | "Ladies and Gentlemen, we do not have sound, but we have a fun new game !" |
| 23:31:55 | DerPapst | most users install rockbox because of the games anyways. so games >> sound. ;-) |
| 23:32:05 | javaman | yes |
| 23:32:32 | BigBambi | :/ |
| 23:32:50 | Bagder | sound is sooo 90s anyway, internet is the way to go these days! |
| 23:32:55 | DerPapst | that's why BattleShip > new codec or other important core changes |
| 23:32:57 | DerPapst | :-D |
| 23:33:17 | gevaerts | DerPapst: that's _un_important core changes ;) |
| 23:33:32 | DerPapst | uhh.. indeed |
| 23:33:34 | DerPapst | :-P |
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| 23:38:45 | gevaerts | DerPapst: it crashes on H320 |
| 23:39:15 | DerPapst | o.O |
| 23:40:32 | DerPapst | where there any compiler warnings? |
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| 23:41:22 | gevaerts | DerPapst: no |
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| 23:43:11 | * | Bagder forces a rebuild |
| 23:43:23 | Bagder | ah no need |
| 23:43:54 | Bagder | 79 builds now |
| 23:44:32 | DerPapst | gevaerts: did it hang? or any other type of crash? |
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| 23:44:57 | gevaerts | I0B:Line-F at 00014878 |
| 23:45:51 | * | gevaerts isn't used to coldfire crashes yet and has no idea what that means |
| 23:46:02 | DerPapst | maybe the mapfile is of help... |
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| 23:46:11 | DerPapst | runs fine on my iPod (5.5.G) |
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| 23:46:30 | TaylorKillian | hello all |
| 23:46:34 | DerPapst | haven't tested on any other of my targets, however, they're all arms |
| 23:46:37 | gevaerts | I doubt it. IIRC that's in ROM area, so a wrong pointer |
| 23:46:47 | gevaerts | I know, that's why I tested h320 |
| 23:47:59 | DerPapst | did it instandly crash? |
| 23:48:27 | gevaerts | pretty much |
| 23:48:52 | DerPapst | did it draw anything before? i guess not. |
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| 23:50:14 | gevaerts | If it did, it was fast enough not to show up |
| 23:50:25 | DerPapst | mkay... |
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| 23:52:00 | DerPapst | i only do 2 things with pointers. one is stolen, the other is not... ;-) |
| 23:52:15 | gevaerts | What's the other ? |
| 23:52:33 | DerPapst | a snprintf |
| 23:54:19 | gevaerts | the snprintf looks ok to me |
| 23:55:10 | DerPapst | adn the other is directly stolen from rockblox... |
| 23:55:23 | DerPapst | the line right after the do { |
| 23:57:33 | gevaerts | I'm building a h300 sim now, to see if it's something about this specific screen size |
| 23:57:38 | * | DerPapst has no idea and blames gevaerts h320 |
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