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| 00:08:45 | * | Nico_P finds that buffering after a skip seems much faster with dircache than without |
| 00:09:23 | Nico_P | even on a flash target, surprisingly |
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| 00:36:13 | amiconn | Oh, 3 more yllow columns in the table |
| 00:36:18 | amiconn | *yellow even |
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| 00:53:35 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: ping |
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| 00:54:25 | jhMikeS | yessir |
| 00:54:47 | Nico_P | I've made the changes to the beast's BL to allow updating only the main bin |
| 00:54:57 | Nico_P | I'm testing and will probably commit soon |
| 00:55:21 | jhMikeS | sounds like what's needed about now |
| 00:55:55 | Nico_P | only problem is the svn version doesn't seem to be updating itself... I don't know whether that means my change isn't working |
| 00:56:18 | Nico_P | (it happens quite often, even with other builds) |
| 00:56:32 | Nico_P | so I need a significant change I could check with... any idea? |
| 00:56:33 | jhMikeS | updating itself? |
| 00:56:59 | Nico_P | the svn rev number in the loading screen doesn't change |
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| 00:57:59 | jhMikeS | Maybe you ran into the same trouble I did? I had to format the storage. |
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| 00:58:30 | jhMikeS | It actually is extracting? |
| 00:58:42 | Nico_P | the file is detected correctly and seems to be renamed correctly too |
| 00:58:55 | Nico_P | I just need a change that will prove it was actually updated |
| 00:59:09 | amiconn | Doesn't the current bootloader just untar a file? |
| 00:59:12 | jhMikeS | toss in a splash screen after the logo |
| 00:59:34 | * | amiconn doesn't understand why this method wouldn't allow to update just the main binary |
| 00:59:56 | csc` | heya rockbox |
| 00:59:57 | jhMikeS | we want to avoid having to even make the tars |
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| 01:00:13 | amiconn | I'd think the bootloader just untars what's in the file, be it a complete file or just the rockbox binary |
| 01:00:20 | Nico_P | untarring takes time |
| 01:00:22 | amiconn | *complete build |
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| 01:01:03 | amiconn | I also thought this would be a temporary method anyway |
| 01:01:12 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: OK it works :) |
| 01:01:22 | jhMikeS | but I'm sick of "make tar", copy that, untar it. better to be able to just drop the binary alone and move it. |
| 01:01:56 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: do you want a sleep call too so that the result is visible? |
| 01:01:58 | * | amiconn wonders which part takes longer - the search for the new file, or the untar action |
| 01:02:11 | Nico_P | amiconn: the untar action takes time, believe me |
| 01:02:20 | jhMikeS | of course I could shell script it on the make side |
| 01:02:29 | * | amiconn would think it's the former, given the overpowered beast hardware |
| 01:03:07 | jhMikeS | untarring a full build is pretty lenghty because of the disk reading and writing |
| 01:04:12 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: 1/2 to 3/4 second would be ok |
| 01:04:58 | Nico_P | how many ticks would that be? ~200? |
| 01:05:49 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: don't you just load the whole tar into RAM? it's only 5.5megs or so. |
| 01:06:32 | Nico_P | no, it's copied 512 bytes at a time |
| 01:06:51 | amiconn | ugh |
| 01:07:04 | Nico_P | I guess it could be read to memory first |
| 01:07:10 | amiconn | That's bound to be slooow on a real hdd |
| 01:07:44 | * | amiconn would expect the untar on the beast to be as fast as unzipping a build to another target with the same hdd type |
| 01:07:53 | Nico_P | ok, I'll improve it after the first commit |
| 01:08:21 | jhMikeS | watch the interrupt vectors, mem is free after that up to the bl load address |
| 01:09:28 | jhMikeS | well, currently the OFBL sets the core clock divider to 2 (so it's 264MHz) which might slow it down. ;) |
| 01:11:38 | * | amiconn would even expect untar on an archos to be disk bound, not cpu bound |
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| 01:17:22 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: committed. I'll try to improve untarring now, but I might not commit it tonight |
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| 01:21:34 | jhMikeS | ok. no rush with that. cutting out the other step is the most important thing. |
| 01:22:13 | Nico_P | do you know where the interrupts vectors end? ie where I could write the tar file? |
| 01:27:47 | jhMikeS | at 0x00000064 |
| 01:27:58 | jhMikeS | duh, 0x00000040 :P |
| 01:28:07 | Nico_P | :) |
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| 01:31:13 | * | Nico_P should really write some doc for file.c funcs |
| 01:32:32 | jhMikeS | how many ticks (looking back up). HZ/2 to 3*HZ/4 ? :) |
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| 01:33:08 | Nico_P | heh, I went for 100, which is quite a bit shorter but (IMHO) enough :) |
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| 01:34:52 | amiconn | Nico_P: 100 is longer.... |
| 01:35:05 | amiconn | HZ is 100 in rockbox |
| 01:35:28 | Nico_P | oh... I thought HZ was 1000 |
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| 01:37:31 | amiconn | It never was... and letting gcc figure out the constants is better than hardcoding anyway, in case HZ will ever change |
| 01:37:43 | amiconn | (it never did in rockbox throughout the years) |
| 01:37:52 | Nico_P | I'll change it them |
| 01:38:11 | Nico_P | (with my next commit of course) |
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| 01:41:10 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: have you gotten results with USB? |
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| 02:01:22 | jhMikeS | it all ends there |
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| 03:20:31 | gagnon | what and where do i need to download to play games over my archos 404 series ? |
| 03:22:20 | advcomp2019 | gagnon, since the 404 is not supported you are offtopic |
| 03:23:16 | gagnon | will it be supported a day ? |
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| 05:22:04 | homielowe | Has anyone had problems with using sendfirm to send a rockbox.tar to there gigabeat S? I can send the patched nk.bin and have the gigabeat boot, but after sending rockbox.tar it won't boot and I need to restore |
| 05:22:28 | homielowe | http://pastebin.ca/986987 |
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| 08:15:23 | mrkiko | Hi all! Rockbox runs so much better in terms of performance |
| 08:15:32 | mrkiko | I apreciated it very much! |
| 08:15:45 | pondlife | Auto-dir change stopped working though :/ |
| 08:18:21 | pondlife | hehe, that build table is getting obese |
| 08:19:32 | mrkiko | pondlife: I know |
| 08:19:41 | mrkiko | pondlife: aniway you can't have all :) |
| 08:20:57 | pondlife | Hmm, it seems ok now.. |
| 08:21:07 | pondlife | Wonder what went wrong? |
| 08:21:20 | Mouser_X | I like big build tables. It means more targets! |
| 08:21:37 | pondlife | and more sims, and more bootloaders :) |
| 08:21:57 | Mouser_X | Which are part of the targets. |
| 08:23:32 | pondlife | Ah, I got it... manual dir skip makes playback unhappy.. |
| 08:23:54 | pondlife | Subsequent dir skips are ignored, or lock up |
| 08:23:55 | Mouser_X | Though, it's getting big enough that I wonder if it should be adapted a bit... Make it so that only the names (Sansa e200; Gigabeat F; iAudio M3; etc) show up, and if you mouse over that column, it would show the additional information... |
| 08:24:15 | pondlife | 3 tables - one for main, one for bootloader, one for sim. |
| 08:24:29 | pondlife | All aligned, of course |
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| 08:24:49 | Mouser_X | I guess there's that method as well. |
| 08:24:50 | pondlife | And, finally the main delta |
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| 08:45:04 | aliask | homielowe: I don't think sendfirm will work on non-firmware files - you'll probably want the libmtp application "connect" and use it's sendfile function |
| 08:47:40 | GodEater | it definitely won't work with the rockbox.tar - even if it did, the .tar file would end up on the wrong partition |
| 08:47:58 | GodEater | you need mtp-sendfile to transfer the rockbox.tar |
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| 08:56:11 | aliask | Anyone know how rolo_restart actually /restarts/? To me it looks like only PP502x would work |
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| 08:56:59 | icemang | to update my rockbox build, do I have to wipe out .rockbox first, or can I unzip rockbox.zip over the existing .rockbox? |
| 08:57:42 | Shaid | you can just (usually) unzip it over the top |
| 08:58:06 | icemang | thanks shaid =) |
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| 09:00:30 | homielowe | aliask: Thanks for the reply, If I have time today, I'll document some stuff in the wiki. |
| 09:01:11 | aliask | That'd be really helpful :) |
| 09:01:37 | Shaid | does anyone else see a box of 'hidden' advert links on the rockbox.org frontpage? on the left, next to the subversion bit. |
| 09:01:38 | linuxstb | aliask: Which targets are you talking about? IIUC, it just branches to the entry point of the new firmware. |
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| 09:02:11 | Llorean | Can anyone confirm/test for me? NSF audio doesn't seem to be working on my Gigabeat with a current build. |
| 09:03:01 | aliask | linuxstb: in firmware/rolo.c - rolo_restart. There's an ifdef'd ASM block which jumps to (what I assume to be) the load address, but other targets (ie, non PP502x) just hit the end of the function. |
| 09:03:32 | aliask | Oh, looks like coldfire also gets a jump |
| 09:03:54 | aliask | But that leaves all other ARM targets (and potentially others) left hanging |
| 09:03:57 | linuxstb | aliask: And rolo isn't implemented for all targets either... e.g. not the F. |
| 09:04:06 | aliask | Oh. |
| 09:04:27 | aliask | That might be why then :P |
| 09:04:51 | B4gder | 79 builds in 4:33 makes 3.45 seconds per build... |
| 09:04:57 | B4gder | it might be a new record |
| 09:04:59 | linuxstb | So yes, I think SH, Coldfire and PP502x are the only CPUs with rolo. |
| 09:05:10 | linuxstb | (SH has an external rolo_restart) |
| 09:05:42 | * | amiconn was about to say that |
| 09:05:54 | Llorean | B4gder: The distributed build system is pretty impressive, overall |
| 09:05:58 | amiconn | It's in firmware/target/sh/archos/descramble.S |
| 09:06:00 | aliask | Cool. I'll see about implementing it for the S based on the PP502x then |
| 09:06:51 | icemang | Have there been any reports of trouble with today's Sansa e200 builds? |
| 09:08:20 | B4gder | Llorean: it scales really well too, the last ~15 builds added haven't added much to the total build time |
| 09:08:31 | amiconn | Clock skipping udelay() has no measurable effect on runtime :\ |
| 09:08:45 | * | amiconn tried inlined as well as real function variants |
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| 09:10:00 | Shaid | Re: the ads on frontpage of the website. http://i31.tinypic.com/b5fu43.jpg |
| 09:10:13 | Shaid | Does anyone else see those? |
| 09:10:23 | Mouser_X | Yes. |
| 09:10:24 | Llorean | B4gder: Do you know of any projects that do as many builds as we do each commit? I'm thinking we probably have the record. |
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| 09:10:33 | Mouser_X | Shaid: They've been for awhile. |
| 09:10:40 | Shaid | Are they meant to be there? |
| 09:10:47 | Llorean | Yes |
| 09:10:47 | Mouser_X | Though, by "awhile" I mean for a few weeks. |
| 09:11:10 | B4gder | Llorean: nope, I'm not aware of any |
| 09:11:19 | Shaid | Fair enough |
| 09:11:44 | B4gder | Shaid: consider them as project sponsors! ;-) |
| 09:11:51 | Mouser_X | Pretty much. |
| 09:11:57 | Shaid | adwords, hey |
| 09:12:25 | B4gder | adwords are crap in comparsion... |
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| 09:13:18 | * | scorche thinks that a wikipage would fix this and immediately hides so no one tells him to make one |
| 09:13:38 | * | B4gder points in a direction where nobody sits. *he* can do it! |
| 09:13:59 | B4gder | (yes excluding the shes in the audience! :-) |
| 09:14:23 | scorche | amiconn: have you seem my previous messages about perhaps posting something to the list re: devcon? |
| 09:16:06 | * | homielowe boots rockbox on his gigabeaSt |
| 09:16:25 | aliask | Nice feeling? |
| 09:16:36 | * | homielowe feels all tingly |
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| 09:21:19 | B4gder | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyHaveAds <= feel free to extend and improve |
| 09:22:28 | scorche | can we put a link to it on the front page?...i will try and improve it later |
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| 09:22:47 | scorche | (front page right above the ads if possible |
| 09:23:25 | Mouser_X | Llorean: With the newest build, I get strange behaviour... |
| 09:24:00 | Mouser_X | I inserted a NSF into my already existing playlist (insert next), and it played not the NSF, not the file after that, but the one after that... |
| 09:24:20 | Mouser_X | (Though, if I "view current playlist" it says it's playing the NSF.) |
| 09:24:38 | Llorean | Strange |
| 09:25:43 | Mouser_X | I skipped back to the NSF, and I get a codec failure. |
| 09:27:01 | Llorean | Mine's just skipping over it. |
| 09:27:10 | Llorean | Shows (ERR) in front of it in the playlist viewer. |
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| 09:27:39 | Mouser_X | Here's what happens: The current song (the one I restarted from poweroff) plays. The NSF doesn't play, but the file after it says (ERR) infront of it. |
| 09:27:52 | Mouser_X | And the file after that ERR plays. |
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| 09:28:02 | Mouser_X | (So I'm getting 2 files that don't play.) |
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| 09:28:26 | Llorean | Well, at least confirmation that something's broken with that format. |
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| 09:28:45 | Llorean | Though I guess with the strange way it handles tracks-within-tracks it might not be so surprising that it'd break from time to time. |
| 09:28:57 | Mouser_X | Though, if I *don't* play the NSF, and play the (ERR) track first (clarify: before I've attemtped to load the NSF, and therefore there's no (ERR) infront of it), it plays. |
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| 09:30:04 | Mouser_X | You have confirmation that NSF is broken (and for me, the track after it), so use it well. :P |
| 09:30:49 | Mouser_X | Ah, *now* it's saying (ERR) in front of the NSF... |
| 09:31:07 | Mouser_X | (And the track after it is playing.) |
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| 09:36:38 | pondlife | Mouser_X: Could you try older builds and work out when it broke? |
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| 09:36:56 | Llorean | pondlife: Actually, I'm the one who should be doing that. |
| 09:37:06 | Gartral | where do i find pacman roms? |
| 09:37:07 | Mouser_X | Llorean beat me to it. |
| 09:37:07 | pondlife | Ah, ok |
| 09:37:14 | Llorean | he has no build environment, and I was just asking him to verify something I'd noticed. |
| 09:37:20 | pondlife | Gotcha |
| 09:37:32 | Mouser_X | Gartral: It is *very* obviously stated that you are *NOT* to ask that here. |
| 09:38:03 | Mouser_X | Read the manual again. |
| 09:38:11 | Llorean | pondlife: I have a suspicion as to which revision might've caused it, and will test it later and then file a proper bug report once I know exactly which one does it. |
| 09:38:13 | Gartral | fine... ill go to community |
| 09:38:52 | Mouser_X | Read the manual... It says not to ask *at all* |
| 09:38:58 | Llorean | Gartral: It's not that. They're copyright, you need to own an arcade machine and dump them. |
| 09:39:19 | pondlife | We respect copyright here. |
| 09:39:31 | Gartral | i technically do..... its just, the power supply is deads |
| 09:40:28 | scorche | Gartral: we respect copyright in -community too... |
| 09:40:32 | Mouser_X | Gartral: Then use a search engine, and find out how to fix it. |
| 09:41:13 | Gartral | i did... it requires solder... wich i A) dont have; and B) even if i did, i really suck at soldering |
| 09:41:35 | aliask | Looks like you're out of luck then. |
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| 09:42:01 | * | Gartral merfs |
| 09:44:42 | * | daurnimator uses dictionarary on Gartral |
| 09:45:04 | * | scorche wonders why daurnimator went and brought that in here |
| 09:45:20 | daurnimator | different universe |
| 09:45:27 | daurnimator | also.... merf isn't a word |
| 09:45:55 | Gartral | your right, its a sound... |
| 09:46:10 | Gartral | made by me, when disgruntled |
| 09:46:24 | pondlife | "a sound made by a furry character expressing discomfort, uneasiness, surprise, boredom, etc." |
| 09:46:30 | pondlife | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merf |
| 09:46:45 | pondlife | The kind of noise I make when we go way OT |
| 09:47:06 | Mouser_X | lol |
| 09:47:40 | Gartral | e.g.- ME the resident furry fox, gotta problem with that? |
| 09:48:13 | * | pondlife only has a problem with the sim constantly segfaulting... |
| 09:49:00 | scorche | Gartral: i do when this conversation isnt happening where it belongs |
| 09:49:15 | pondlife | gdb reckons it's in gwps-common.c:1441... and an attempt to print value gives "$1 = 0x2a8ed249 <Address 0x2a8ed249 out of bounds>" :/ |
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| 09:52:28 | Llorean | pondlife: It looks like it's revision 17109 that broke it, as I suspected. |
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| 09:52:38 | * | Llorean now just needs to flag down Nico_P |
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| 09:53:14 | * | B4gder polishes up the "I broke the build" badge in preparation |
| 09:53:16 | pondlife | Might be that 17109 just revealed a problem with the codec |
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| 09:53:59 | Mouser_X | Sort of how |
| 09:54:04 | Mouser_X | ADX doesn't work? |
| 09:54:13 | Mouser_X | (Well, doesn't work how it's supposed to.) |
| 09:54:34 | Mouser_X | (ADXs glitch out when attempting to loop rather often.) |
| 09:55:10 | Llorean | pondlife: Well, the codec uses some strangeness in supporting single files that contain several tracks, so I imagine the playback rework may not have taken that into account. |
| 09:55:41 | pondlife | The problem may be that the codec/playback interface isn't clearly documented... |
| 09:56:06 | * | pondlife wonders if cuesheets are working at the moment. |
| 09:56:43 | Gartral | ohh... a bug i found... rockbox will randomly skip songs in the middle of playing them, but only if there are multiple file types too be played from playlist |
| 09:58:56 | JdGordon | I think ive had that, but all tracks being the same type |
| 09:59:16 | pondlife | I've had that in the past, but not recently |
| 09:59:42 | Llorean | I'm pretty sure that's supposed to have been resolved. |
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| 10:00:37 | pondlife | Backward directory skip (either way) is definitely unhappy at the moment. |
| 10:00:48 | * | pondlife packs a pin. |
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| 10:01:36 | Llorean | pondlife: I'm having no problem with double-press back on my Gigabeat. |
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| 10:02:14 | pondlife | Hmm, I can segfault the sim reproducibly, and also managed to hard lock my H300 |
| 10:02:25 | Llorean | Completely up to date? |
| 10:02:34 | pondlife | Yes |
| 10:03:15 | Llorean | I'm having no problems. I've just done it six times, and hit MP3, FLAC, SPX and AAC audio without any problems. |
| 10:03:24 | pondlife | Might depend on WPS. |
| 10:03:31 | pondlife | It's in gwps-common.c |
| 10:03:39 | Llorean | I'm just using CabbieV2 |
| 10:03:40 | pondlife | I'm using a home brew WPS too |
| 10:03:47 | pondlife | I'll try resetting settings |
| 10:04:15 | * | Mouser_X already reverted his build to April 7th. |
| 10:04:23 | Mouser_X | (I'm using a custom build.) |
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| 10:06:26 | Llorean | pondlife: Album art in your WPS? |
| 10:06:31 | pondlife | No |
| 10:06:55 | Llorean | And it happens in "evaluate conditional"? |
| 10:07:01 | pondlife | Yes |
| 10:08:11 | Llorean | And can you reproduce it with the standard WPS? |
| 10:08:43 | pondlife | A second issue is that repeatedly back skipping (a track at a time, with auto-change-dir enabled) will sometimes get into a state where I can navigate but playback is stalled. In this state it locks hard when I press STOP. |
| 10:08:49 | pondlife | Hang on, not tried yet |
| 10:09:06 | pondlife | But the WPS shouldn't be able to cause this sort of problem - it passes checkwps etc... |
| 10:09:59 | pondlife | Hmm, it works as long as I let the dircache scan complete, I think. |
| 10:10:10 | * | pondlife disables dircache |
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| 10:12:00 | pondlife | Aha |
| 10:12:14 | pondlife | Llorean: Do you have dircache enabled? |
| 10:12:20 | Llorean | yes. |
| 10:12:25 | Llorean | Doesn't work without dircache? |
| 10:12:43 | pondlife | Could you perhaps try disabling dircache, and enable auto-dir-change |
| 10:12:49 | pondlife | (and disable repeat) |
| 10:13:07 | Llorean | It has to be the auto-change, not manual changes? |
| 10:13:11 | pondlife | Maybe |
| 10:13:34 | pondlife | Go to track 1 in a directory somewhere half-way through your collection |
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| 10:13:50 | pondlife | Then repeatedly press LEFT / RIGHT |
| 10:14:01 | pondlife | Hence skipping back a dir, then forward again |
| 10:14:10 | pondlife | What happens? |
| 10:14:34 | pondlife | Skip quickly several times, then wait for it to catch up, perhaps |
| 10:15:02 | pondlife | Only 2 tracks should be involved - track 1 in dir B and track n in dir A |
| 10:16:00 | pondlife | I get a skip back to the last track in the last directory of my entire collection, and it's stuck in non-playing mode |
| 10:16:29 | Llorean | pondlife: No problems. |
| 10:16:32 | Llorean | What format is your audio? |
| 10:16:38 | pondlife | All MP3 |
| 10:16:44 | Llorean | Okay, that's what I just tested with. |
| 10:16:56 | pondlife | I'm using the sim, maybe relevant |
| 10:17:31 | Llorean | It will sometimes say "10 of 0" as playlist position. |
| 10:17:38 | pondlife | OK, I've just reset settings... trying again |
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| 10:18:45 | pondlife | Nope, same problem.. I also saw "1 of 0" |
| 10:18:55 | Llorean | But I can't cause my gigabeat to crash when that happens. |
| 10:19:21 | pondlife | It's not a hard crash this one, but 100% reproducible |
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| 10:19:53 | pondlife | So - I have reset settings, then disabled repeat and enabled auto-change-dir |
| 10:21:12 | pondlife | I go into Files > (artist beginning with M) > (first album) > (track 1) |
| 10:21:49 | pondlife | Do a back track skip, then go RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT-.... |
| 10:22:06 | pondlife | So it should be skipping between two tracks. |
| 10:22:22 | pondlife | It ends up playing (artist beginning with Z) |
| 10:22:38 | pondlife | Sometimes playing, sometimes stuck |
| 10:23:18 | Llorean | pondlife: I just followed your recipe exactly, no problems. |
| 10:23:29 | pondlife | Maybe it's a sim-only thing? |
| 10:23:54 | pondlife | I've got to work now, will test more later |
| 10:23:58 | Llorean | I thought you said it was also showing problems on your H300. |
| 10:24:19 | pondlife | Yes, a hard lock. But I've been diverted onto this more reproducible problem.. ;) |
| 10:24:47 | pondlife | I think I've seen 3 different symptoms |
| 10:24:57 | Llorean | And I can't reproduce any. :( |
| 10:25:06 | pondlife | Lucky you!! |
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| 10:25:28 | Llorean | Though I did reproduce a problem with rapidly backskipping through a folder of FLACs |
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| 10:25:37 | Llorean | Which is why I asked about the format. |
| 10:26:03 | pondlife | The common factor in my problems would be a backwards track skip across directories, that's all. |
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| 10:27:12 | Llorean | And see my FLAC problem showed up without a directory barrier being hit. |
| 10:27:37 | Llorean | But when I tested with MP3s I went back and forth across the directory a few dozen times, both slowly and as quickly as I could press the buttons, without any problem |
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| 10:47:00 | ddalton | pondlife: around...? |
| 10:47:06 | pondlife | Yes |
| 10:47:48 | pondlife | Well, kind of... working mainly.. |
| 10:48:07 | ddalton | pondlife: Did you see my last comment: - with the grep stuff and - with the request for testers? FS #8895... Sorry, I didn't look at the feature request you mentioned... Ran out of time. |
| 10:48:19 | pondlife | ddalton: Not yet. |
| 10:48:39 | pondlife | The REC key is pretty much out of bounds until the USB stuff is fixed though, IMHO. |
| 10:48:44 | ddalton | pondlife: When you get a chance let me know. I should be around for a couple of hours |
| 10:48:51 | pondlife | Won't be today |
| 10:48:59 | ddalton | ok. |
| 10:49:19 | pondlife | You have to have a very good reason to change keymaps too, you know.. |
| 10:49:34 | pondlife | I don't think that REC -> FM screen will get into SVN |
| 10:49:41 | ddalton | I'll do some testing... When you get a chance for a comment just add it and I'll see if I can find the time to look. |
| 10:49:43 | pondlife | But, that's just my opinion |
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| 10:50:29 | Mouser_X | Call me crazy, but if the button says REC on it, I'd want it to go to the recording screen. |
| 10:50:50 | Mouser_X | (Unless recording isn't supported on that target, in which case, why does it have a REC button?) |
| 10:51:07 | ddalton | well... yes, but short_rec was used for nothing in the menus and file tree. if you guys don't like it after a few months, I'll just keep it in sync for myself... And not sure if I will keep uploading patches if its this hard to get stuff in... |
| 10:52:15 | ddalton | Mouser_X: Well we have rel and repeat... repeat (holding it down) goes to rec screen, and short rec didn't do a whole lot before so now go_to_fm... |
| 10:52:23 | ddalton | check FS #8895 for details |
| 10:52:51 | ddalton | I'll build a build with this patch and do some tests... |
| 10:52:54 | pondlife | What's so hard about pressing MENU and selecting FM radio? |
| 10:53:04 | pondlife | Seems more logical |
| 10:53:16 | pondlife | And works from anywhere, pretty much |
| 10:53:23 | ddalton | pondlife: how exactly should this usb thing act? Where is the keymap for the usb mode you mentioned? |
| 10:53:41 | ddalton | grep -n 'BUTTON_REC' keymapfile gave no clues... |
| 10:54:20 | pondlife | If you plug in a USB cable it will normally connect (and stop playback). If you want it to charge and continue to allow use of Rockbox, then you press REC as you plug the cable in. |
| 10:54:26 | ddalton | pondlife: Its easy to say the same thing about going to the rec screen... |
| 10:54:37 | pondlife | Unfortunately, this currently tends to go into the recording screen |
| 10:55:02 | pondlife | So, the plan (as much as one exists) is to use the hold button for the USB control., |
| 10:55:22 | pondlife | It makes a bit of sense for a REC button to go to the recording screen. |
| 10:56:00 | pondlife | Long REC, because you don't want to do it accidentally - think microphone, amp and feedback |
| 10:56:11 | ddalton | pondlife: sure, but check out FS #7979 or FS #7980 before you do that. |
| 10:56:38 | ddalton | oh and well... why not change the keymap to long play? From all I can tell long play only does something in the radio? |
| 10:56:58 | ddalton | Oh and grep the keymap file using -n and show me the line with the usb keymap...? |
| 10:57:04 | pondlife | It's not a keymap |
| 10:57:09 | pondlife | It's hard-coded somewhere |
| 10:57:36 | ddalton | pondlife: where? in the bootloader? |
| 10:57:49 | pondlife | No, in the main code somewhere... I don't know. |
| 10:58:53 | ddalton | pondlife: for actions to be triggered don't you need a keymap in a keymap file? if not where should i start grepping? |
| 10:59:15 | pondlife | I don't know, as I just said |
| 10:59:20 | pondlife | :) |
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| 11:00:09 | ddalton | ok, but you have seen this actually work, and it is in the manual somewhere? |
| 11:02:02 | pondlife | Yes, and don't know |
| 11:02:08 | pondlife | I use it all the time |
| 11:04:30 | ddalton | pondlife: before I waste my time opening another task for another keymap thing I have... do you know if play and rec does anything? |
| 11:05:00 | pondlife | I don't know, sorry. I'm not an expert on this stuff.. |
| 11:05:09 | | Part Gartral |
| 11:05:15 | pondlife | But keymaps should have logical reasons to exist |
| 11:05:30 | pondlife | Don't go using up combinations just because they're not used, please. |
| 11:05:43 | pondlife | I mean, is MENU so hard to use? |
| 11:05:52 | pondlife | (for the radio, I mean) |
| 11:06:54 | pondlife | I suspect it's because you're changing keymaps that your tasks aren't being used. |
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| 11:18:17 | typhoon07 | Just tried to install rockbox with rockbox util and it's killed my ipod, any ideas whats gone wrong? |
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| 11:19:41 | ddalton | pondlife: ok... well then why does long rec be used for going to the rec screen? why not just press menu and arrow down? |
| 11:20:11 | pondlife | Because it's a REC button? |
| 11:20:46 | gevaerts | typhoon07: please provide a bit more information (what model ipod, what exactly you did, what went wrong,...) |
| 11:20:49 | JdGordon | is the miezue music card the miezu possible target? or something different? |
| 11:20:50 | pondlife | If you can find a RADIO button, feel free to use it ;p |
| 11:20:58 | JdGordon | http://www.pmpstore.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=1 |
| 11:21:06 | PaulJam | typhoon07: you should be a little bit more specific if you expect someone to help you (what did you do, which ipod, what happens when you try to turn it on) |
| 11:21:31 | PaulJam | ops, sorry for the echo. |
| 11:21:34 | Llorean | JdGordon: different. |
| 11:21:56 | JdGordon | ta |
| 11:22:10 | Llorean | JdGordon: AFAIK, this is the current Meizu work is being done on: http://www.itplayroom.com/images/m6.jpg |
| 11:22:26 | typhoon07 | ok, 30 gb video ipod, downloaded rockbox util, autodetected the mount point etc, ran complete install, Now when I try to turn in on i get the apple logo in the middle of a dark screen and can hear the HD spinning up and stopping and thats it |
| 11:22:46 | ddalton | pondlife: so why waste it when it is quite easy to get to the rec screen anyway? I know we don't like looking at the of, but I believe that uses rec to bring up a special menu...? |
| 11:23:45 | gevaerts | typhoon07: what operating system are you using, and what version of rbutil is this ? |
| 11:24:08 | pondlife | It's not wasted - although personally I prefer to use the menu and wouldn't mind if it was an unused button (aside from turn on backlight)... |
| 11:24:18 | pondlife | You should probably ask whoever added it |
| 11:24:28 | pondlife | But you never answered my question |
| 11:24:51 | JdGordon | $200 for 8gb... /me needs a bloody job :p |
| 11:24:54 | * | PaulJam wonders why the A-B button doesn't always set ab markers when the label of the button is so important :P |
| 11:25:02 | pondlife | hehe |
| 11:25:12 | ddalton | pondlife: what was your question? |
| 11:25:13 | pondlife | If we had a MENU button, I expect the would |
| 11:25:25 | pondlife | "Is it so hard to use MENU and select FM Radio?" |
| 11:26:11 | typhoon07 | im using ubuntu linux, util version m1.0.4 |
| 11:26:15 | ddalton | well its a lot quicker with a short press especially with voice... and most likely the same reason the long rec keymap was add and the play to resume playback and all the other little shortcuts. |
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| 11:27:15 | pondlife | I don't object massively, but the USB issue needs to be fixed first, that's all. |
| 11:27:50 | pondlife | We already have 2 functions on the short REC key (reset settings, USB charge) |
| 11:28:05 | ddalton | well if you can show me the page in the manual if you have time so I check the usb stuff and see how it works then great... I don't understand how it is using the keymap though... |
| 11:28:22 | pondlife | It's not using the keymap |
| 11:28:43 | ddalton | yes... so its in the usb code then? |
| 11:28:55 | pondlife | Yes, somewhere |
| 11:28:58 | typhoon07 | gevearts −− any ideas? |
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| 11:29:55 | PaulJam | From the RockboxUtility wikipage for rbutil m1.0.4: "Complete Installation still seems buggy. Please use the install options from the second tab, until it's fixed." does taht mean this was fixed or is it still an issue in this in this version |
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| 11:30:42 | ddalton | pondlife: I'll do some testing/looking when I can be bothered later... :-) |
| 11:30:44 | pondlife | ddalton: I don't see it in the manual, it's missing |
| 11:30:50 | Llorean | PaulJam: If it says "Until it's fixed", and the version provided is still the unfixed version number... |
| 11:31:13 | PaulJam | Llorean: ok |
| 11:31:36 | ddalton | oh ok... well I'll do some testing here... if it doesn't work for me and is not in the manual I'll assume it doesn't exist and ask about it... |
| 11:31:39 | ddalton | on the dev list. |
| 11:31:52 | * | gevaerts suggests that someone who has actually used rbutil tries helping typhoon07 |
| 11:32:11 | typhoon07 | that would be nice |
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| 11:32:30 | ddalton | pondlife: one other thing, please explain to me what you meant with your comment to sdoyon's patch in 7979? |
| 11:32:52 | pondlife | Ignore that - I missed the bit about headphones being unplugged |
| 11:32:55 | Llorean | typhoon07: Try holding Right while booting and see if it causes some debug output. |
| 11:33:31 | pondlife | I just though that the "Shutting down" voice was added so you'd know if you'd managed to shut it down. |
| 11:33:43 | PaulJam | typhoon07: it seems as if the complete installation in your version of rbutil is buggy, the wiki says to use the install optons from the second tab. but i'm not sure if that'll work with your ipod in its current state. maybe you'll have to resore it first. |
| 11:33:54 | pondlife | Hence 7979 would be unneedd. |
| 11:33:56 | typhoon07 | llorean holding right does nothing |
| 11:34:22 | ddalton | yes and your saying you should know if you have flicked a switch? |
| 11:35:01 | typhoon07 | Pauljam i doubt i can do anything with it in its current state. How do I go about restoring it - plug it into itunes? |
| 11:35:51 | pondlife | ddalton: I just thought that if you heard "shutting down" you'd know you'd got the right button. But, of course, not if you don't have headphones |
| 11:36:00 | pondlife | So, ignore that |
| 11:36:14 | gevaerts | typhoon07: reset it (hold menu-select for a while), and then (quickly) hold menu-down (someone check?) |
| 11:36:22 | PaulJam | typhoon07: i'm not sure. i think you have to force it into diskmode and then resstore with itunes. |
| 11:37:11 | * | gevaerts doubts if itunes restore is really needed. EDM + rbutil (with individual steps) might be sufficient |
| 11:38:08 | typhoon07 | think ill throw it in the bin, it wont even reset |
| 11:38:12 | ddalton | yes, its just a quick way to shutdown and put the player on hold and to no its actually off... doesn't matter about the shutdown message... weather you hear that or not. no point removing it. |
| 11:38:18 | ddalton | whether |
| 11:38:35 | Llorean | typhoon07: If it won't reset, how did you test my suggestion?' |
| 11:38:59 | gevaerts | typhoon07: try again a few times. It's extremely unlikely to be really broken |
| 11:40:42 | PaulJam | typhoon07: sometimes it is suggested to turn hold on and off before holding menu+select to reset. |
| 11:42:19 | Llorean | PaulJam: By "sometimes" you mean "it's part of the official Apple instructions, and anyone telling you to should always include this step"? :-P |
| 11:42:34 | typhoon07 | that worked to reset |
| 11:42:35 | PaulJam | Llorean: yes |
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| 11:45:31 | typhoon07 | no matter what I try after I reset it the HD just spins up then stops repeateddly |
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| 11:46:27 | gevaerts | typhoon07: then you should be able to get into emergency disk mode http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651 has instructions |
| 11:47:30 | ddalton | any sansa v2 progress...? |
| 11:47:33 | BigBambi | gevaerts: jhMikeS Um, I have an admission and an apology |
| 11:48:09 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: It seems when I was doing USB stuff for you yesterday, the beast was suffering from the not updating the build issue |
| 11:48:36 | typhoon07 | im in disk mode, still what next? |
| 11:49:22 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: I've just formatted it, and transferred a build with USB patch v2 (full speed only) installed, and I have different results than yesterday. Pastebin to follow |
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| 11:49:34 | gevaerts | typhoon07: what I would try now is plug it in, re-run rbutil, but instead of doing a complete install, install the bootloader and rockbox separately (I think that is in the second tab) |
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| 11:50:02 | typhoon07 | will give that i try cheers |
| 11:55:44 | typhoon07 | PaulJam can you link the wiki page you were reading re linux rbutil |
| 11:56:23 | PaulJam | typhoon07: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 11:59:55 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: Interesting results: http://www.pastebin.ca/987206 |
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| 12:00:31 | BigBambi | I'm just retrying the highspeed to be sre |
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| 12:05:49 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: Confirmed. I disabled tagcache for this build so I'm sure it is the correct one, and the same as last time for the high speed version |
| 12:06:12 | gevaerts | BigBambi: could you try "mount none -t debugfs /sys/kernel/debug/" and "modprobe usbmon" ? If that works, we can get more interesting info |
| 12:06:26 | BigBambi | gevaerts: With both versions? |
| 12:06:42 | gevaerts | BigBambi: first try if they work. If they do, I'll provide further steps |
| 12:06:47 | BigBambi | OK |
| 12:07:43 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Yes, no return from either |
| 12:08:00 | gevaerts | OK. Then "cd /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon" |
| 12:08:12 | BigBambi | OK |
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| 12:08:45 | typhoon07 | it lives |
| 12:08:48 | BigBambi | OK as in done :) |
| 12:09:09 | typhoon07 | looks like manual install is the way to go |
| 12:09:30 | typhoon07 | cheers for your help guys |
| 12:09:33 | gevaerts | And then, "cat 1t > /tmp/1.out" (or 2, depends on the usb 1-1 or usb 2-1) while plugging in. That will capture all usb traffic |
| 12:09:38 | gevaerts | typhoon07: you're welcome :) |
| 12:09:58 | BigBambi | gevaerts: So that command, then plug in? |
| 12:10:39 | gevaerts | BigBambi: yes. While the cat is running, all usb traffic will be captured. After plugging in (maybe wait a few seconds), ctrl-c to stop it |
| 12:10:51 | BigBambi | OK |
| 12:11:24 | gevaerts | If the output file is empty, it means you captured the wrong bus number. Then look in dmesg for the correct one |
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| 12:12:02 | BigBambi | gevaerts: OK, will do |
| 12:20:19 | BigBambi | gevaerts: http://98.130.155.226/1.out <−− full speed |
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| 12:24:54 | gevaerts | BigBambi: is the dmesg for that similar to the one you posted earlier ? |
| 12:25:26 | BigBambi | yes |
| 12:25:39 | BigBambi | I'm just doing both dmesg and the other for high speed |
| 12:26:09 | typhoon07 | what software would you guys recommend for managing a rockbox enabled player? |
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| 12:27:36 | BigBambi | typhoon07: I copy and paste |
| 12:27:38 | gevaerts | typhoon07: I use cp, rm and mv :) |
| 12:27:39 | PaulJam | what do you mean by "manage". in order to put music on it you can just use your favourite filebrowser |
| 12:28:07 | typhoon07 | oh right no need for any itunes replacement then |
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| 12:28:12 | typhoon07 | thats cool |
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| 12:32:11 | BigBambi | gevaerts: OK, it appears that sometimes with high speed when I connect it the USB screen etc doesn't happen and dmesg output is different |
| 12:33:31 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS Both full speed + high speed, on occasions where it connected 'properly': http://98.130.155.226/usbv2.txt |
| 12:33:37 | BigBambi | Sorry for the mucking about |
| 12:35:10 | gevaerts | BigBambi: once you realise that you're just mucking about, you're on your way to enlightenment :) |
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| 12:35:23 | BigBambi | hehe, cheers :) |
| 12:38:32 | gevaerts | BigBambi: the high speed one looks reasonably good : the PC gets correct-looking data back, and it manages to set the usb address correctly. The device then responds to this new address... |
| 12:38:43 | BigBambi | wow, cool |
| 12:39:17 | Mouser_X | Indeed. Good to hear. |
| 12:39:24 | gevaerts | That means that the ULPI/UTMI/whatever is set up correctly for high speed |
| 12:39:27 | Mouser_X | (Is this being done on the S?) |
| 12:39:33 | BigBambi | Mouser_X: yes |
| 12:39:38 | Mouser_X | Awesome news... |
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| 12:39:53 | * | Mouser_X looks forward to continued S progress... |
| 12:40:28 | * | Nico_P cheers for aliask's ROLO work :) |
| 12:40:46 | Nico_P | once usb works, testing will be a breeze |
| 12:41:03 | BigBambi | Indeed :) |
| 12:41:37 | * | Nico_P is off to lunch |
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| 12:41:57 | * | gevaerts suspects that the remaining high-speed problem is not usb-hardware related |
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| 12:42:12 | BigBambi | What are the other options? |
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| 12:43:14 | gevaerts | caching stuff in usb_core.c |
| 12:43:37 | BigBambi | One of your specialties? ;) |
| 12:43:50 | gevaerts | no, jhMikeS's speciality :) |
| 12:43:55 | BigBambi | haha :) |
| 12:44:09 | * | GodEater thought anything cacheing related was Cacheri ;) |
| 12:45:22 | Mouser_X | Question: How do you get the bootloader onto the S in the first place (when using Windows)? The hacked updater is unreliable. |
| 12:45:41 | Mouser_X | (This is for future referrance.) |
| 12:46:10 | BigBambi | Mouser_X: jhMikeS uses windows I think - he would probably know the best way at the moment |
| 12:46:31 | Mouser_X | I'll ask if/when I see him then. |
| 12:46:49 | Mouser_X | (That might not be for awhile... I don't get home until rather late these days.) |
| 12:46:55 | gevaerts | BigBambi: can you add http://pastebin.ca/raw/987227 to your stack of patches ? |
| 12:47:08 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Sure. On top of the present one? |
| 12:47:17 | GodEater | afaik the hacked updater is the only way to do it on windows |
| 12:47:19 | gevaerts | yes |
| 12:47:25 | BigBambi | OK |
| 12:47:29 | BigBambi | Will do |
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| 12:47:54 | gevaerts | Just concentrate on high speed for now. full speed seems to need more work |
| 12:48:09 | BigBambi | OK |
| 12:49:58 | gevaerts | I wouldn't actually be surprised if the force full speed trick we use doesn't work on the beast. It's explicitely documented as a debug feature, and it might depend on colaboration from the PHY chip |
| 12:50:02 | * | jhMikeS drops in and sees some messing around with USB |
| 12:50:18 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: Yeah, sorry |
| 12:50:28 | jhMikeS | sorry? |
| 12:50:29 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: I cocked up a couple of tests yesterday |
| 12:50:38 | BigBambi | But that has lead to good news today :) |
| 12:50:50 | jhMikeS | btw, the S doesn't use IRAM |
| 12:51:10 | gevaerts | OK. then this latest patch will do no good |
| 12:51:43 | jhMikeS | It can do uncached aliases but I tries a different memory config for the various buffers and used cache coherency operations for transfers with no real change |
| 12:52:01 | Mouser_X | jhMikeS: Is there a reliable method to put the bootloader on the beast? The updater crashes for me. (using WinXP) |
| 12:52:13 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: what we're seeing is that the data that comes back after going through response_data in usb_core.c is bogus |
| 12:52:14 | jhMikeS | I used the windows version of sendfirm |
| 12:52:33 | Mouser_X | Ah... Where could I find that? Google? |
| 12:52:59 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: I was going to ask if it actually verified the packet |
| 12:53:00 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS With the additional patch, no lock up on USB screen (get the screen though) and new dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/987229 |
| 12:53:35 | jhMikeS | I have a patch I can give that has the mem changes |
| 12:54:08 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: the device descriptor is OK (comes from a static struct), it responds correctly to set_address, but the config descriptor is not ok |
| 12:54:33 | Mouser_X | I searched Google for "sendfirm windows" and every result I found comes from an IRC log (either #rockbox or #gigabeat) |
| 12:54:50 | jhMikeS | could the lockup the from an invalid config? |
| 12:55:27 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS And to go with that http://pastebin.ca/987230 |
| 12:55:49 | jhMikeS | Mouser_X: jhmikes.cleansoap.org/sendfirm-win.zip">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/sendfirm-win.zip |
| 12:56:46 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: With gevaerts' additional patch it doesn't lock up anymore, and gives output as per my last two pastebins |
| 12:57:06 | jhMikeS | Mouser_X: you have to create an .inf, install the LibUSB drivers, use sendfirm, remove the LibUSB drivers. (the driver conflicts with normal MTP) |
| 12:58:18 | jhMikeS | Mouser_X: make sure the beast is plugged before running inf-wizard.exe and save the files in the directory with the .dlls |
| 12:59:20 | Mouser_X | jhMikeS: Thanks. It's plugged in already. I was going to leave it all night, and attempt to fix it tomorrow from a different machine. |
| 12:59:31 | Mouser_X | But I'll try that tool instead. |
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| 13:00:24 | gevaerts | BigBambi: the same data now seems to be a different kind of bogus |
| 13:00:32 | BigBambi | hehe |
| 13:01:29 | gevaerts | I think it's actually more bogus than the first one, so I would suggest to revert that latest patch and wait for jhMikeS to suggest something |
| 13:02:08 | BigBambi | ok |
| 13:02:09 | * | jhMikeS begins to suspect he did something stupid with the latest diff |
| 13:02:42 | BigBambi | patch -p0 -R < usb_v2_additional.diff |
| 13:02:45 | BigBambi | heh, oops |
| 13:02:50 | jhMikeS | like misplace or delete it :O |
| 13:03:42 | Mouser_X | jhMikeS: Create a INF? Manually, or is there a tool to do this (is that what inf-wizard.exe is for)? |
| 13:05:00 | Mouser_X | Can I use sendfirm for other stuff as well? I've been using Winamp to do MTP transfers, but it works poorly. |
| 13:05:29 | jhMikeS | inf-wizard |
| 13:09:16 | Mouser_X | So I want to send nk.bin? |
| 13:09:56 | jhMikeS | I'm pretty sure |
| 13:10:02 | Mouser_X | K |
| 13:10:21 | * | gevaerts suspects that BigBambi still might have the diff that jhMikeS lost |
| 13:10:37 | jhMikeS | that diff never made it out :( |
| 13:10:46 | jhMikeS | easy to redo though |
| 13:11:38 | Mouser_X | It tells me there's no devices attatched... |
| 13:11:57 | Mouser_X | (I made sure it was attached before I started.) |
| 13:13:29 | Mouser_X | Am I supposed to specify the device somehow? |
| 13:14:02 | jhMikeS | what do you mean? |
| 13:14:20 | jhMikeS | at what point are you? |
| 13:15:25 | Mouser_X | I made the INF, I right-clicked and selected install (twice now), and I ran sendfirm suing this command: sendfirm nk.bin |
| 13:15:34 | Mouser_X | I get this: |
| 13:15:35 | Mouser_X | LIBMTP_Get_First_Device: No Devices Attached |
| 13:15:35 | Mouser_X | No devices. |
| 13:15:37 | jhMikeS | no, don't do that |
| 13:16:06 | Mouser_X | So... I don't know what to do then... |
| 13:16:07 | jhMikeS | update from the device manager. select the S under portable devices |
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| 13:19:26 | * | Mouser_X is envious of GodEater right now... |
| 13:19:39 | Mouser_X | Very... |
| 13:19:46 | * | Mouser_X gives up for now. |
| 13:21:26 | * | GodEater can't wait to see what the rbutil boys are going to come up with for the S |
| 13:21:55 | * | Mouser_X was thinking the exact same thing... |
| 13:21:56 | jhMikeS | I'm sure any practical sendfirm for windows will have to not be LibUSB/MTP based |
| 13:22:28 | * | gevaerts spots "practical" and "windows" in the same sentence |
| 13:22:42 | * | GodEater was also pondering this apparent dichotomy |
| 13:23:43 | aliask | jhMikeS: What speed is the S' CPU running at by default? |
| 13:29:11 | jhMikeS | 264MHz |
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| 13:29:46 | jhMikeS | If you want 528, change the post-divider to 1 |
| 13:30:02 | jhMikeS | div by 1 that is |
| 13:30:35 | aliask | What register is that in? |
| 13:33:01 | jhMikeS | PDR0 |
| 13:33:13 | aliask | Cool. Lets see how high the FPS goes. |
| 13:33:24 | aliask | It's already the fastest by a mile. |
| 13:33:31 | jhMikeS | FPS for what? |
| 13:33:38 | aliask | lcd_update() |
| 13:33:51 | * | jhMikeS has branch prediction turned off atm too |
| 13:33:54 | aliask | (I assume) |
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| 13:34:32 | jhMikeS | Things seem somewhat similar to the F at that core speed |
| 13:34:36 | amiconn | aliask: Is it? m:robe 100 gets >1000fps when boosted |
| 13:35:05 | Mouser_X | Woah. Not bad at all... |
| 13:35:06 | aliask | Oh actually, no it's not... you're right amiconn |
| 13:35:35 | aliask | We only get 1329.5 fps (not boosted), but sansa has a higher FPS |
| 13:35:35 | amiconn | The wonders of monochrome lcds :P |
| 13:36:13 | aliask | 68,275,200 bytes/s |
| 13:36:40 | aliask | It has the highest datarate at least. (of the ones on LcdFrameRate) |
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| 13:50:48 | Batelje | Heey everyone! I'm scrobbling my songs from my nano to last.fm using .scrobbler.log .But can i deselect a map from scrobbling? |
| 13:51:13 | * | gevaerts translates : map = directory |
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| 13:52:02 | Batelje | i have a directory 'music' with my favourite music in it, and 'Chinese' , where i keep my chinese podcast lessons in it. But i don't want that lessons to be scrobbled. How can i prevent that ? |
| 13:52:35 | GodEater | I don't think you can at the moment |
| 13:52:40 | GodEater | sounds like a good feature though |
| 13:52:57 | B4gder | sounds like a filter feature for the PC-side tool to me |
| 13:54:56 | Batelje | Ok thanks, but what if i only give one tag to the lessons ( for example : Les.1 as title-name for Lesson number 1) so last.fm will not accept them? |
| 13:57:07 | PaulJam | Batelje: you could just edit the scrobbler.log file and remove the lines with your language lessons. |
| 13:58:51 | jhMikeS | jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS3.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS3.diff |
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| 14:00:21 | Batelje | ok thnx pauljam |
| 14:01:55 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: On it! |
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| 14:12:53 | BigBambi | jhMikeS, gevaerts: http://www.pastebin.ca/987274 |
| 14:13:13 | DefineByte | This thread got me to thinking: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16304.15 - would it be a terrible idea (probably) to be able to configure Rockbox with RBUtil? I realise the situations where this would be useful are limited. |
| 14:13:28 | aliask | Doubling the core frequency didn't double the FPS, but it did give a nice bump. |
| 14:14:06 | jhMikeS | aliask: what is the FPS? |
| 14:14:53 | aliask | 519 FPS full screen |
| 14:15:10 | DefineByte | I meant http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16304.0 up above. |
| 14:15:40 | gevaerts | jhMikeS, BigBambi: here the device descriptor data is bogus as well |
| 14:16:41 | * | jhMikeS checked the pad and pin configuration for the UTMI and it looked good |
| 14:18:02 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: it looks like the structs in usb_core.c need the v2 UNCACHED_ADDR |
| 14:18:26 | jhMikeS | using UTMI is the only thing that gets a response but it locks...the others don't lock but no response |
| 14:18:51 | jhMikeS | which structs...all? |
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| 14:19:22 | jhMikeS | aren't they const data actually? |
| 14:20:01 | gevaerts | At least not all of them. The device descriptor is (and is marked as such) |
| 14:21:01 | jhMikeS | are they accessed by the DMA directly or copied? |
| 14:21:13 | * | gevaerts checks |
| 14:21:32 | gevaerts | dma |
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| 14:22:09 | jhMikeS | it appears to all go through usb_drv_send which cleans the lines now |
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| 14:23:03 | * | jhMikeS wonders if it needs the physical addresses for the DMA though |
| 14:23:23 | gevaerts | Does this thing have an MMU ? |
| 14:23:37 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 14:23:53 | GodEater | malloc() ftw \o/ |
| 14:24:16 | jhMikeS | and memory isn't mapped as flat...the section with the framebuffer is skipped since I don't know where to change it atm |
| 14:25:10 | gevaerts | ok. Then it probably need physical addresses I guess. I think the remapping should be done in prepare_td() |
| 14:27:30 | jhMikeS | it doesn't say anything. this MMU even lets anything at all be remapped so I'm not certain. Before the addresses were physical. |
| 14:29:47 | jhMikeS | I'll put the translation in send/receive |
| 14:30:57 | gevaerts | The qh->dtd.next_td_ptr in prime_transfer() also needs translation, although it seems to work |
| 14:33:40 | jhMikeS | td_array is already phyical in location |
| 14:33:58 | gevaerts | ok. that explains it :) |
| 14:34:13 | jhMikeS | I put the usb buffers in the 1MB block with the ttb and framebuffer |
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| 14:57:27 | jhMikeS | hmmm...who turned my gigabeat into a rockbox media player? |
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| 14:59:09 | jhMikeS | It working now but no drive letter |
| 14:59:13 | aliask | jhMikeS: Sign of working? |
| 14:59:27 | aliask | Hooray :D |
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| 14:59:35 | jhMikeS | still finding hardware so maybe it'll show up |
| 14:59:39 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: woah |
| 14:59:42 | jhMikeS | "disk drive" |
| 14:59:45 | BigBambi | congrats :) |
| 14:59:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | What did jhMikeS do now? |
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| 15:00:06 | gevaerts | \☺/ |
| 15:00:10 | Nico_P | woohoo \o/ |
| 15:00:12 | aliask | The beginnings of USB :D |
| 15:00:14 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: see the last few lines |
| 15:00:21 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes to check the logs |
| 15:00:45 | BigBambi | LambdaCalculus37: Sorry, I didn't notice you just joined |
| 15:00:49 | * | aliask hopes it works with his crappy motherboard |
| 15:00:59 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: Perhaps a linux test would be useful.... :) |
| 15:01:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Woot! \o/ |
| 15:01:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Congrats! :) |
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| 15:03:44 | * | GodEater wants to see a commit asap ;) |
| 15:03:47 | jhMikeS | :) drive mounting is getting confused though...may I have to reboot here cause things are running badly anyway. will post a patch first though. |
| 15:04:12 | GodEater | \o/ /o\ \o/ |
| 15:04:24 | * | BigBambi is poised... :) |
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| 15:05:10 | * | LambdaCalculus37 readies his Gigabeast... :) |
| 15:05:13 | jhMikeS | I had to plug it twice though. perhaps the tranceiver needs a reset at or a wakeup when first connected. |
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| 15:05:49 | jhMikeS | yeah, drive mounting isn't going so well on a second try either. :\ |
| 15:06:00 | jhMikeS | ooh, wait it did it. |
| 15:06:10 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: I got that a bit with previous patches - sometimes it worked, other times it didn't |
| 15:06:24 | BigBambi | 'worked' as in went to the usb screen for instance |
| 15:06:42 | GodEater | BigBambi: thought that was fullspeed only though ? |
| 15:06:55 | BigBambi | No, high speed is/was better than full speed |
| 15:07:13 | GodEater | that's what I meant |
| 15:07:24 | gevaerts | BigBambi: once you're testing, you could try rmmodding ehci_hcd, to force full speed from the other side. Maybe that works |
| 15:07:26 | GodEater | I must have misunderstood you earlier |
| 15:07:29 | jhMikeS | I didn't get any messages saying "This device can perform faster" |
| 15:07:37 | BigBambi | GodEater: Or I wasn't clear |
| 15:07:52 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Er, with instructions I could, yes :) |
| 15:08:13 | GodEater | BigBambi: that *is* the instruction, there's not much else to do |
| 15:08:14 | GodEater | :) |
| 15:08:19 | BigBambi | ah, ok |
| 15:08:21 | BigBambi | :) |
| 15:08:25 | BigBambi | Shows what I know |
| 15:08:26 | jhMikeS | windows doesn't seem to actually be able to read the disk though (I just hear the head clunking occasionally) |
| 15:08:28 | gevaerts | s/ding// :) |
| 15:08:31 | GodEater | rmmod, then plug it in |
| 15:08:42 | BigBambi | got it! :) |
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| 15:12:14 | jhMikeS | jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS4.diff">http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS4.diff |
| 15:13:08 | jhMikeS | How much of the audiobuffer is used? |
| 15:13:51 | gevaerts | 32k |
| 15:14:23 | gevaerts | Or a few bytes more if the start of the audio buffer isn't 32-byte aligned |
| 15:17:14 | BigBambi | jhMikeS, gevaerts: http://www.pastebin.ca/987325 |
| 15:17:46 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: is there any place besides the send/recv functions where I'd have to translate to physical? |
| 15:18:15 | GodEater | BigBambi: is that all you got? |
| 15:18:19 | GodEater | not device assigned to it ? |
| 15:18:23 | GodEater | s/not/no |
| 15:18:28 | BigBambi | jhMikeS, gevaerts, GodEater No, I cut ot off by mistake: http://www.pastebin.ca/987326 |
| 15:18:57 | GodEater | still not quite there then :( |
| 15:19:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:19:38 | BigBambi | Heh, there is still more |
| 15:19:48 | BigBambi | One mo, I'll post a complete plug unplug cycle |
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| 15:21:38 | gevaerts | BigBambi: could you enable USB_SERIAL in export/usb_core.h, and enable LOGF_ENABLE in usb_storage.c, usb_core.c and usb-drv-pp502x.c ? |
| 15:22:30 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS That is from plug, wait a bit, unplug http://www.pastebin.ca/987327 |
| 15:22:34 | gevaerts | BigBambi: and then do a logf build. After that, you'll need to have "cu" installed |
| 15:22:35 | BigBambi | gevaerts: Sure, one mo |
| 15:25:32 | BigBambi | OK, just building |
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| 15:26:55 | GodEater | hmm |
| 15:27:13 | * | GodEater can't get the patch to apply to the tree he just downloaded |
| 15:27:29 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: those descriptors should use NOCACHEDATA_ATTR btw |
| 15:27:47 | jhMikeS | or else cache line flushing is needed after modifiying them |
| 15:28:25 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: some of them are memcpy-ed in place |
| 15:28:36 | BigBambi | gevaerts: OK |
| 15:28:58 | gevaerts | BigBambi: once everything seems ready : on the linux side "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0930 product=0x0010" |
| 15:29:17 | BigBambi | then just plug in? |
| 15:29:19 | gevaerts | On the DAP side : debug menu -> enable logf over usb |
| 15:29:22 | jhMikeS | they won't be coherent after the memcpy |
| 15:29:24 | BigBambi | ah, ok :) |
| 15:29:43 | GodEater | is the rockbox.7z available for download up to date ? |
| 15:29:52 | gevaerts | Then prepare "cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0" but no enter yet |
| 15:29:56 | GodEater | I keep getting release r16841 |
| 15:30:00 | BigBambi | oops, on mo |
| 15:30:11 | * | jhMikeS just recommends NOCACHEDATA_ATTR to make things easy :) |
| 15:30:23 | gevaerts | You need to start the cu within ten seconds after pluging in |
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| 15:31:19 | BigBambi | Got to go and get the mains power |
| 15:32:06 | BigBambi | And transferring the logf build not the normal one would help too |
| 15:32:29 | BigBambi | Hmmm, the OF thinks the battery is empty, but Rb shows one notch off full |
| 15:32:58 | jhMikeS | I don't think the scale is calibrated yet :) |
| 15:33:00 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: feel free to fix any bug you see :) |
| 15:34:01 | jhMikeS | I don't think we need to use message queues to signal endpoints either. There's the simpler wakeup object now. |
| 15:34:14 | BigBambi | gevaerts: OK, ready. So plug, then immediately run cu? |
| 15:34:34 | gevaerts | yes. |
| 15:34:52 | gevaerts | Don't forget the enable logf over usb debug item |
| 15:34:58 | BigBambi | yep |
| 15:35:40 | BigBambi | gevaerts: I get permission denied and line in use from cu |
| 15:36:09 | gevaerts | BigBambi: fun. Are you in group dialout ? |
| 15:36:22 | BigBambi | not sure, i'll check |
| 15:36:52 | gevaerts | I usually have to do this as a normal user who's a member of dialout. root gives permission issues |
| 15:37:05 | BigBambi | gevaerts: yes |
| 15:37:29 | BigBambi | sorry, that was with sudo :) I'll try without :) |
| 15:37:54 | BigBambi | gevaerts: OK, I get stuff now |
| 15:38:11 | BigBambi | my terminal is full of "pipe 12 err 8" |
| 15:38:24 | BigBambi | There was briefly something before that but I can't see it now |
| 15:38:27 | jhMikeS | In VMWare: Bus 001 Device 019: ID 0930:0010 Toshiba Corp |
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| 15:39:52 | gevaerts | BigBambi: try setting NUM_ENDPOINTS to 3 in usb_core.h. |
| 15:39:58 | BigBambi | OK |
| 15:41:59 | BigBambi | hmmm, can't connect to the OF now |
| 15:42:21 | BigBambi | Is that something to do with having modprobed usbserial? |
| 15:42:47 | gevaerts | you never know... rmmod usbserial |
| 15:43:18 | BigBambi | yes, connects now :) |
| 15:45:33 | BigBambi | gevaerts: with endpoints = 3 http://www.pastebin.ca/987341 |
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| 15:52:57 | aliask | jhMikeS: What's the story with IRAM on the S? It /is/ there, but we aren't using it? Anything that uses IRAM seems to data abort (at some IRAM address) |
| 15:53:48 | jhMikeS | It is there, it works but it's only 16K. The bootloader uses it for the remap stub. |
| 15:54:36 | aliask | It's used by codecs (primarily) - should we do like the gigabeat f does and fake the IRAM in DRAM? |
| 15:54:47 | jhMikeS | it does that already |
| 15:55:45 | aliask | Are you sure? Trying to play a file (and thus loading and executing the codec) gives a data abort at 0x1FFFC840, and using mpegplayer 0x1FFFC760 |
| 15:58:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | aliask: Same here. |
| 15:58:35 | gevaerts | BigBambi: I don't immediately see what's going on. Could you do this again with a corresponding usbmon dump and dmesg output ? I don't have too much time now, but I'll look in depth later tonight |
| 15:58:48 | BigBambi | Sure, no probs |
| 15:59:16 | aliask | Anyway, I'll read the logs. I have to be at uni in 8 hours, so I'm heading to bed :( |
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| 16:00:54 | jhMikeS | aliask: I'm sure since it copies the stub there and then jumps to 0x1fffc000 |
| 16:02:12 | low_light | jhMikeS: I want to move adc-c200_e200.c and ata-c200_e200.c up on directory to make way for the Philips SA9200 port. I propose to rename them to adc-as3514.c and ata-sd-pp5022.c (or ata-nand-pp5022.c). Any objections? |
| 16:02:58 | gevaerts | Speaking of renaming... I guess usb-drv-pp502x.c will soon need to be renamed as wll |
| 16:03:05 | jhMikeS | low_light: not at all. btw, you never committed that change for the radio_power function :) |
| 16:03:19 | jhMikeS | usb-otg-arc.c? |
| 16:04:05 | jhMikeS | it needs to have a bit more memory buffer abstraction than it does as well |
| 16:04:13 | gevaerts | maybe. Although ARC is now something else... |
| 16:04:34 | gevaerts | I'll leave those to you :) |
| 16:05:41 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: what do you get from the logs about the continued difficulty? |
| 16:06:58 | gevaerts | jhMikeS: I need more time to look at it than I have right now. I'll look at them later (also at more data that BigBambi should be able to provide) |
| 16:08:40 | * | jhMikeS is wondering if it's just something simple like this last thing. will double-check the pointer fiddling. |
| 16:08:52 | low_light | jhMikeS: bit sure which radio changes you mean...I commited the fix for the c200 tuning problem |
| 16:10:02 | BigBambi | gevaerts, jhMikeS: I hope this is what you were after: |
| 16:10:04 | BigBambi | http://98.130.155.226/rockbox/usb_logs.txt |
| 16:10:57 | jhMikeS | low_light: ah ok, the disable for bit 5 |
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| 16:12:00 | gevaerts | BigBambi: Those should be enough to start having fun with |
| 16:12:04 | BigBambi | cool |
| 16:12:12 | BigBambi | Shout if there is anything else I can do :) |
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| 16:34:22 | jhMikeS | aren't usb_string_iManufacturer and usb_string_iProduct const too? |
| 16:35:18 | gevaerts | Those could be, yes |
| 16:35:54 | jhMikeS | what about usb_strings? |
| 16:36:12 | jhMikeS | doesn't look modified |
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| 16:37:10 | gevaerts | that too |
| 16:38:20 | Slasheri | Nico_P: nice that you have done great improvements to the playback.c. Now i like again the way the code going :) |
| 16:38:53 | Nico_P | Slasheri: thanks, that's encouraging :) |
| 16:38:58 | Slasheri | :) |
| 16:39:14 | Nico_P | I welcome any suggestions/review of course |
| 16:40:26 | Nico_P | I want to wait a bit for now, until I can fix the bugs I introduced lately, and then finish rewriting audio_check_new_track |
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| 17:06:30 | markun | jhMikeS: congrats on the USB progress! |
| 17:08:25 | jhMikeS | markun: thanks |
| 17:08:51 | markun | jhMikeS: do you use the original vendor id and model id? |
| 17:09:28 | markun | would be cool if rockbox had it's own vendor id :) but I believe it's rather expensive |
| 17:09:47 | jhMikeS | markun: yes, it's pulled from it |
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| 17:11:40 | markun | nice to see that the port is progressing so quickly now after a period of relative silence |
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| 17:12:17 | jhMikeS | where'd everyone go that originated it? |
| 17:12:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Who knows? |
| 17:13:03 | markun | 'Zunepet' was never really interested in the gigabeat |
| 17:13:10 | Nico_P | zunepet went back the the zune and ptw419 completely disappeared |
| 17:13:37 | Nico_P | he never answered any of my emails |
| 17:13:46 | jhMikeS | hope nothing bad happened |
| 17:13:52 | Nico_P | me too |
| 17:14:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Me too. |
| 17:14:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Once the Gigabeat S is up to a working state, how hard do you think it would be to adapt the port for the V and T series? Just curious. |
| 17:15:19 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: also depends if Toshiba fixed but which makes the exploit possible |
| 17:15:21 | toffe82 | T is a flash base player |
| 17:15:21 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: I'm trying to write things such that's it's not difficult at all. |
| 17:15:24 | markun | (like they did for the Zune) |
| 17:15:42 | jhMikeS | well, that's another story |
| 17:16:03 | * | GodEater notes it's apparently stripwax's birthday today |
| 17:16:21 | * | LambdaCalculus37 runs off for a moment |
| 17:16:28 | jhMikeS | what's keeping the rb stack from being the default on some players? I'm browsing around the H10 just fine. |
| 17:16:38 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wheels back in a cake for stripwax and some birthday beers |
| 17:16:43 | markun | GodEater: would be nice to have a rockbox birthday reminder :) |
| 17:16:46 | Nico_P | yeah, I'd very much like it to be default on the ipod too |
| 17:16:56 | GodEater | LambdaCalculus37: you're a bit early - he's not here ;) |
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| 17:17:08 | markun | jhMikeS: the speed? |
| 17:17:19 | markun | or does it work at 2.0 speeds? |
| 17:17:28 | BigBambi | markun: Yeah, high speed works |
| 17:17:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | GodEater: We'll light the candles when he gets here. :) |
| 17:17:34 | jhMikeS | that would a bad reason to completely not include it :) |
| 17:18:05 | markun | gevaerts: do you think it's ok to enable it by default now? |
| 17:18:10 | BigBambi | I *believe* it is the flash driver bug on the Sansa's and sometimes signal quality issues (depending on port/hub etc) |
| 17:18:25 | markun | ah yes, the hub problems |
| 17:18:39 | jhMikeS | hub problems? |
| 17:19:01 | jhMikeS | drive config isn't right? |
| 17:19:06 | BigBambi | It gives lots of resets with some hubs and some ports |
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| 17:19:37 | jhMikeS | sounds like a tranceiver issue |
| 17:19:43 | BigBambi | But I think I'd better leave it to gevaerts to explain, or I'll just get it wrong :) |
| 17:19:51 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 17:19:57 | low_light | markun: I read in the logs that you were working on "tap" and "slide" type button presses for the gigabeat (or meizu). I've been pondering a similar setup for the touchpads on the m:robe 100 & philips sa9200. |
| 17:20:19 | low_light | I wonder if the framework could be common |
| 17:20:27 | markun | low_light: I wrote some code but it works very poorly right now |
| 17:20:35 | jhMikeS | there's not really much to setup in the ARC controller so it would most likely be hardware if it's not a protocol issue |
| 17:21:07 | markun | low_light: I think part of the code should be called by the timer tick or interrupt driven |
| 17:21:19 | jhMikeS | use a vector sum for each line/direction |
| 17:21:51 | * | jhMikeS has the goal to make the S the first tick-task free port |
| 17:22:00 | markun | cool :) |
| 17:22:21 | gevaerts | markun: sorry, bit busy right now |
| 17:22:23 | markun | jhMikeS: but the gigabeat F touchpad unfortunately need to be polled |
| 17:22:23 | low_light | markun: what are the issues? |
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| 17:23:06 | markun | low_light: a lot of the touchpad changes were missed by the driver, unless I did something else wrong |
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| 17:23:25 | markun | sliding down should have moved the cursor something like 13 positions down in the list |
| 17:23:25 | jhMikeS | markun: on the F, the ADC reading _is_ best done the in a tick since it's on SoC. so there's always hardware that it makes sense on. |
| 17:23:41 | markun | but it usually it was 0 to 2 lines |
| 17:24:33 | jhMikeS | does F have edge vs. level sensitivity? |
| 17:24:39 | markun | I don't know |
| 17:25:03 | toffe82 | low_light: any progress on the sa9200 ? when do you put it on svn ? |
| 17:26:46 | jhMikeS | toffe82: hey, want to trace-out the rest of the lines on that block diagram (radio lines, headphone mute, others)? :) |
| 17:27:07 | toffe82 | : |
| 17:27:09 | toffe82 | :) |
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| 17:27:51 | low_light | toffe82: Hopefully this week. I have the bootloader build done. I need to get the normal build to compile & boot. |
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| 17:27:57 | toffe82 | I need time, kids are really keeping me busy :) |
| 17:28:54 | * | jhMikeS suggests teaching hw hacking to the kids |
| 17:29:14 | toffe82 | I try to but they don't listen ;) |
| 17:29:15 | scorche|sh | toffe82: you are supposed to be making them do all the work |
| 17:29:34 | markun | low_light: does the philips sa9200 only have a vertical pad? |
| 17:29:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | You could teach them how to play with a Rockbox sim. :) |
| 17:29:41 | jhMikeS | yes, leverage the child labor cost savings |
| 17:30:12 | low_light | toffe82: I've never used an MTP only device. Can you unzip a rockbox build via MTP? |
| 17:30:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Which MTP only device? |
| 17:30:47 | BigBambi | low_light: For the gigabeat S, the bootloader untars a tar we send it |
| 17:30:50 | toffe82 | I don't think so |
| 17:30:52 | BigBambi | 'we' |
| 17:31:05 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: the philips |
| 17:31:09 | low_light | sa9200 |
| 17:31:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Ah. Like BigBambi said, the bootloader untars a tar that's sent to it. I used Gnomad2 to copy the rockbox.tar to my Gigabeast. |
| 17:32:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | I figure that any DAP management app that can handle MTP should allow you to copy a rockbox.zip or rockbox.tar to it to allow it to load. |
| 17:33:18 | jhMikeS | e200 works nicely here and the main and card mount nicely |
| 17:33:22 | Nico_P | you can now send the plain binary for faster testing |
| 17:33:49 | BigBambi | jhMikeS: I think the problem with the e200 is that a bug in the flash driver can occasionally corrupt data transferred over usb |
| 17:34:42 | jhMikeS | yeah, that's a bugger and a mystery |
| 17:34:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nico_P: I also saw that the bootloader for the S was revised twice. |
| 17:35:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Since Monday, anyway. |
| 17:35:03 | toffe82 | low_light: you can copy the file to the system partition and have the bootloader read from there if you stay in mtp mode |
| 17:35:19 | Nico_P | LambdaCalculus37: I added the ability to send a plain binary, then improved the untarring |
| 17:36:10 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Why would you want to do that? Tick tasks are often very useful... |
| 17:36:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nico_P: I'll see if I can update tonight. |
| 17:36:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | But I'm going to be quite busy; I'm looking at a couple of apartments tonight. |
| 17:36:39 | jhMikeS | amiconn: not remove the facility, but the dependence |
| 17:36:40 | toffe82 | Nico_P: do you have an idea why somwetimes the album art doesn't display ? |
| 17:37:04 | jhMikeS | it really doesn't depend on them now |
| 17:37:08 | Nico_P | toffe82: could you ellaborate? |
| 17:37:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yeah, but why? Sometimes using tick tasks is the easiest and simplest way to do something |
| 17:38:11 | jhMikeS | not nescessarily the best though. I'd rather the CPU have nearly nothing to attend to. |
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| 17:40:14 | jhMikeS | as it is now it really doesn't. PMIC events set variables that end up getting polled so no work is done there but I wouldn't event need a button tick except to generate repeat events and such. |
| 17:40:31 | toffe82 | Nico_P: I have a bmp file on each of my folder and sometimes, it doesn't show |
| 17:41:02 | Nico_P | toffe82: is it consistently for the same tracks that it doesn't appear? |
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| 17:41:29 | low_light | toffe82: I'll have to try an MTP transfer sometime. I had success flashing a usb enabled e200 build. But with the potential bug, I'm a bit worried about FS corruption especially since I can't find figure out how to get into manufacturer mode. |
| 17:45:35 | toffe82 | no , I think it is random, I listen to my music in shuffle mode so sometimes I see the cover and sometimes not for the some album |
| 17:45:53 | toffe82 | same^^ |
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| 17:47:16 | Nico_P | toffe82: I had never heard of such an issue... |
| 17:48:06 | toffe82 | I will have a look , but how I listen most of the time in my car, I don't look the display so much |
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| 17:54:58 | toffe82 | low_light: you have a copy of the original bootloader o? |
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| 17:56:23 | jhMikeS | The S will probably have a variable CPUFREQ_NORMAL too since it has DVFS and can scale frequency and voltage using hardware based on load |
| 17:59:34 | markun | jhMikeS: is it the only target where we will scale the voltage? |
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| 18:00:23 | jhMikeS | markun: I don't know. It's specifically designed to work with the MC13783 to accomplish it without much software intervention. |
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| 18:02:51 | markun | less /tmp/pkg_version |
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| 18:02:56 | markun | oops |
| 18:03:37 | markun | why does file tab completion work in irc ;) |
| 18:04:18 | * | jhMikeS gets yellow spots |
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| 18:05:17 | jhMikeS | ...and I wonder why I didn't see that when building |
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| 18:06:27 | giles | hello I'd like write access to the Wiki, to add a new FM transmitter device to TWiki > Main > IpodPort > IpodAccessories, anyone? |
| 18:07:10 | roolku | Nico_P: I can confirm toffe82's experience. Didn't want to report it until I had tried an unpatched build though. When I stop and resume, the albumart is displayed |
| 18:07:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | giles: Did you already register? |
| 18:07:28 | giles | yes, user: GilesNorthRow |
| 18:07:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay, one moment. |
| 18:08:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Done. Welcome to Rockbox! |
| 18:08:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | No spamming, now! :) |
| 18:09:02 | giles | Cheers |
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| 18:10:59 | Nico_P | roolku: no wps changes involved? |
| 18:11:59 | roolku | Nico_P: no, I usually have the gigabeat in the cradle at my desk and every so often I look up and there is no album art |
| 18:12:24 | toffe82 | Nico_P: it is with the default theme cabbie, |
| 18:12:35 | Nico_P | well the best would be to find the pattern and describe the circumstances |
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| 18:14:00 | roolku | Nico_P: yes, I'll try, but other than staring at the display at every track change it is difficult to investigate issue |
| 18:14:55 | Nico_P | roolku: what type of AA do you have? cover.bmp? |
| 18:15:39 | roolku | Nico_P: it is a mixture of all versions...no size in the filename |
| 18:16:14 | roolku | Nico_P: I'll try to narrow it down somemore |
| 18:16:28 | Nico_P | that would be helpful |
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| 18:17:01 | UncleRemus | A little bit related to rockbox, I hope: Does anyone have a tip for a headphone that is very well suited for listening on trains, buses, etc. and not the "in-ear" type. |
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| 18:18:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | UncleRemus: That's a matter of personal preference, really. |
| 18:18:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | But you could try and buy noise-cancelling headphones. |
| 18:20:53 | UncleRemus | LambdaCalculus37: Yes, thanks. I have tried them, but I think the sound was strange (it was Bose). It wasn't natural sound. |
| 18:21:06 | n1s | or regular closed ones could work pretty well |
| 18:21:11 | * | jhMikeS is amused that rolo works on S before it even plays sound |
| 18:21:28 | markun | and it still doesn't work on the F :) |
| 18:21:56 | markun | jhMikeS: did you make it work just now? |
| 18:22:06 | Nico_P | aliask did |
| 18:22:22 | UncleRemus | n1s: Yes, I thought of closed ones, but closed ones that really isolates from surrounding noise. |
| 18:22:23 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: will you have the mpeg working before sound, like on the F :) |
| 18:22:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | UncleRemus: Shop around, then. To be honest, not everyone's ears are the same, so just try some headphones until you find your personal preference. |
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| 18:23:09 | * | Nico_P is curious to see the new mpegplayer FPS records :) |
| 18:23:35 | UncleRemus | LambdaCalculus37: I kinda like the Koss PortaPro, but the don't keep the noise out so I have to have volume so high. |
| 18:23:35 | * | LambdaCalculus37 is curious to know what kind of record we can hit on the Gigabeat S :) |
| 18:23:41 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: will mpegplayer be able to make use of the beast's FPU btw? |
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| 18:28:02 | ZincAlloy | uncleremus: akg make a closed version of their portable headphones.. |
| 18:29:30 | UncleRemus | ZincAlloy: Thanks! |
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| 18:32:10 | ZincAlloy | uncleremus: they're called k 414 p and k 416 p. but don't expect too much from them. the open version sounds far better |
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| 18:37:33 | TaylorKillian | whats up scorche? |
| 18:37:44 | scorche|sh | nothing...just saying hi :) |
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| 18:38:17 | * | scorche|sh had a question, but then found that it was answered |
| 18:38:18 | TaylorKillian | cool |
| 18:38:36 | GodEater_ | those are the best sorts of questions |
| 18:38:40 | preglow | bah, no resampler for gsoc... |
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| 18:56:55 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: why the FPU? I'd rather it use the IPU. |
| 18:58:54 | n1s | preglow: :( |
| 18:59:07 | jhMikeS | preglow: no? why not? |
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| 19:09:59 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: don't know, I figured maybe mpeg2 decoding would be faster with an fpu, but I guess I assumed wrong :) |
| 19:10:05 | Nico_P | what can the IPU do? |
| 19:11:22 | toffe82 | hardware decoding |
| 19:12:49 | preglow | jhMikeS: student doesn't have time for gsoc |
| 19:12:50 | Nico_P | including mpeg2? |
| 19:13:53 | toffe82 | sorry, misread, video processing, not hardware decoding |
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| 19:15:28 | toffe82 | Nico_P: The role of the Image Processing Unit (IPU) is to provide hardware acceleration and control for processing and displaying visual data (video and graphics) |
| 19:15:37 | Nico_P | nice |
| 19:16:06 | Nico_P | resizing and such, I guess? |
| 19:16:28 | Nico_P | where can I find concise info on the soc? |
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| 19:18:03 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: 2300 pages isn't concise? :) |
| 19:18:26 | Nico_P | hehe, not as much as I'd like ;) |
| 19:18:31 | jhMikeS | there's a smaller one |
| 19:18:42 | toffe82 | page 79 of the 2364 |
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| 19:19:06 | mcuelenaere | is NOCACHEBSS_ATTR defined on non-PP targets? |
| 19:19:10 | Nico_P | I have a 122 page one too |
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| 19:19:32 | Nico_P | toffe82: thanks |
| 19:19:45 | jhMikeS | mcuelenaere: no |
| 19:19:55 | jhMikeS | well, it's defined as nothing |
| 19:19:56 | toffe82 | Nico_P: you want the big one |
| 19:20:24 | mcuelenaere | jhMikeS: are you sure it is defined as nothing? because I get a gcc syntax error on it |
| 19:20:42 | mcuelenaere | and it seems in config.h it is only defined ifdef CPU_PP |
| 19:21:27 | Nico_P | that IPU looks lovely |
| 19:22:16 | jhMikeS | mcuelenaere: I guess I erred and forgot a default #define |
| 19:22:39 | mcuelenaere | :) |
| 19:23:18 | jhMikeS | wtf. how can I compile gigabeat S with the USB stack then? |
| 19:23:46 | mcuelenaere | define NOCACHEBSS_ATTR as nothing? |
| 19:23:59 | jhMikeS | yeah, if not otherwise defined |
| 19:26:02 | * | jhMikeS is confusing himself about his own work |
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| 19:30:05 | phrakture | Hello all. I just installed rockbox on my iPod 4G, and it's really amazing. I was wondering if it worked on the newer "iPod Classic" - is that technically the same as "iPod Video"? |
| 19:30:21 | Nico_P | unfortunately, no |
| 19:30:53 | phrakture | aha, someone just sent me the link to the IpodPort wiki page, and I see it now |
| 19:31:03 | phrakture | 6G has different hardware |
| 19:33:00 | phrakture | the 5.5G works though, correct? It looks like those are still for sale |
| 19:33:08 | Nico_P | yes, it works |
| 19:33:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Apple doesn't sell the 5.5G anymore, though. |
| 19:33:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | Your best bet is to go onto eBay or Amazon. |
| 19:33:26 | phrakture | amazon does, heh |
| 19:33:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | Well, depends. |
| 19:33:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Some sellers on Amazon may have a few in stock. |
| 19:34:52 | phrakture | oddly enough, rockbox fixed my touch-wheel too.... it stopped working at some point, but I didn't think it was hardware failure. it works now though /me shrugs |
| 19:35:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Little do people know, but Rockbox was touched by His Noodly Appendage. :) |
| 19:36:27 | phrakture | It has Healed my hardware! |
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| 19:45:40 | ZincAlloy | omg, the flying spaghetti monster is a rockboxer? I had no idea... |
| 19:45:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | ZincAlloy: Of course He is. |
| 19:46:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | So are Goddess Eris and J.R. "Bob" Dobbs. :) |
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| 19:48:53 | feindbild | hi ^^ |
| 19:49:27 | ZincAlloy | cool, how about the invisible pink unicorn and eric clapton? |
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| 19:50:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | I can't see if the invisible pink unicorn is using it or not. :P |
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| 19:59:27 | phrakture | so here's a side question. because the apple firmware is still on here, can I let itunes update that? or will that blow rockbox away? |
| 19:59:59 | domonoky | phrakture: that will remove the rockbox bootloader... |
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| 20:00:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Which means having to reinstall it. |
| 20:00:19 | scorche|sh | however, it is simple to put it back on |
| 20:00:44 | scorche|sh | although i dont knwo why one would want to update the apple firmware... |
| 20:01:04 | phrakture | i dunno, I just plugged it into my work box, and itunes started yelling at me |
| 20:01:14 | phrakture | I didn't even know I had itunes installed, this is weird |
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| 20:05:01 | bluebrother | gevaerts: just read the SoC mail. What project is the mentioned student? |
| 20:05:16 | gevaerts | bluebrother: usb |
| 20:05:39 | bluebrother | ah, ok. And who is the other guy who withdrew his application? |
| 20:05:45 | bluebrother | s/who/what project/ |
| 20:06:00 | gevaerts | resampling |
| 20:06:08 | bluebrother | too bad :( |
| 20:06:15 | domonoky | jup |
| 20:06:20 | bluebrother | especially for the resampling project |
| 20:07:06 | phrakture | thanks for the help guys |
| 20:07:07 | * | phrakture waves |
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| 20:08:17 | mcuelenaere | who made ifp_usb_serial.c ? |
| 20:08:27 | mcuelenaere | or does anyone know if it ever worked? |
| 20:08:51 | scorche|sh | svnblame? |
| 20:09:02 | * | bluebrother guesses tomal |
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| 20:10:10 | bluebrother | heh, seems I was right ;-) |
| 20:11:06 | Nico_P | I have an iFP799 (IIRC), maybe I should test the port |
| 20:13:28 | bluebrother | hmm. Any news on a DevCon date? |
| 20:13:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | bluebrother: I was talking to scorche about one for DCW. |
| 20:14:33 | bluebrother | LambdaCalculus37: hmm. Nice, but I'm in europe ... ;-) |
| 20:15:02 | scorche|sh | bluebrother: well, we need a place first...i am about ready to just say lets go to Stockholm as that seems the most ready at the moment and we need decisions more than a bit more of a central location at this point in the game |
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| 20:16:47 | bluebrother | I agree that we need decisions. It's kinda hard planning for an event if you don't have the date. |
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| 20:17:07 | low_light | jhMikeS: seems like the e200 doesn't like to be compiled without HAVE_HOTSWAP |
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| 20:17:13 | bluebrother | and I personally won't mind stockholm, as long as there is enough time to get affordable flights |
| 20:18:06 | low_light | jhMikeS: the sa9200 doesn't have a sd card, and I'm running into problems if I don't define it |
| 20:18:26 | low_light | ^ it = have_hotswap |
| 20:18:34 | scorche|sh | bluebrother: which is why i say we need a decision more than a central location at this point |
| 20:19:01 | bluebrother | I completely agree. |
| 20:19:24 | bluebrother | it's quite a bit surprising how (not) much discussion happenes about devcon ... or am I only missing it? |
| 20:19:50 | domonoky | yes, its very silent about DevCon.. |
| 20:20:55 | bluebrother | amiconn said that the location in berlin can't get used for sleeping. Does anyone knows about the available alternatives for that? |
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| 20:22:21 | scorche|sh | bluebrother: well, i have been trying to nag him about writing up a short mail about some info on it to the ML, but we cant afford (literally) to wait much longer |
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| 20:23:19 | pixelma | I know he did some research about it (how to organise sleeping) but I don't know the outcome... |
| 20:23:33 | pixelma | only vague parts of it |
| 20:24:09 | scorche|sh | well, we can cram into large hotel rooms nearby or hostels, etc |
| 20:25:06 | bluebrother | we could postpone devcon after the summer holidays, but that won't solve the decision issue (and I'm not sure if it would be good postponing it that much) |
| 20:26:09 | scorche|sh | it also affects the DCW date |
| 20:26:33 | bluebrother | I wouldn't mind DCW coming first ;-) |
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| 20:26:49 | scorche|sh | well, it is a bit too late for that... |
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| 20:31:58 | Horscht | Charging an ipod 5.5G from within rockbox (holding menu when plugging USB cable) takes a really long time, is this known? |
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| 20:32:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | Horscht: Mine takes a long time to charge as well, so you're not alone. |
| 20:32:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Is yours a 30GB or an 80GB? |
| 20:32:56 | Horscht | 80 |
| 20:33:01 | scorche|sh | Horscht: i think it is still operating at 100 there, so yes |
| 20:33:16 | Horscht | I charged it 4 hours, and it only went up to 40% |
| 20:34:07 | Horscht | so there is no way to connect the ipod to the PC to charge without it being "installed" as a MSD? |
| 20:34:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | Horscht: Have you tried with a wall charger? |
| 20:34:33 | Horscht | I don't have one |
| 20:34:42 | Horscht | I ordered one, but it isn't here yet |
| 20:34:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | A worthy investment, it was. |
| 20:35:09 | Horscht | it's a Wall -> USB plug to be exact |
| 20:36:25 | domonoky | Horscht: i think there is a button you can press while inserting usb, so that rockbox only charges, and isnt seen as a disk on PC.. |
| 20:36:46 | Horscht | yes, I know that |
| 20:36:59 | Horscht | that's what I did, but it took 4h to charge 40% |
| 20:37:20 | Nico_P | how does one charge a c200? USB? |
| 20:37:50 | DerPapst_ | Horscht: usb doesn't give much power. |
| 20:38:00 | scorche|sh | as i said, it only requests 100 (at that stage), so slow charging is expected...especially while the device is still on...if you just want it to charge quickly, boot into the original firmware for now |
| 20:38:13 | Horscht | yes, but chargig 100% with the OF takes only 4h |
| 20:38:25 | DerPapst_ | Horscht: i charge my ipod 5.5G 80GBwith firewire and it get 50% after less than 1h |
| 20:38:41 | domonoky | so rockbox doesnt request the full 500ma till now ? wasnt that fixed ? |
| 20:38:41 | scorche|sh | Horscht: yes...i just gave you the reason why... |
| 20:39:06 | DerPapst_ | Horscht: yes, but it sleeps (idle clock at 32KHz not Mhz) |
| 20:39:12 | scorche|sh | domonoky: i dont think it was for just regular charging, but i am not 100% positive |
| 20:39:29 | domonoky | or did the preparations for the new USB stack remove it again.. :-) |
| 20:39:38 | Horscht | DerPapst_, I think it's actualy taking a lot less than 4h, but I never realy checked :D |
| 20:40:58 | pixelma | Nico_P: yes, via USB (and I trust the OF more for charging) |
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| 20:43:48 | Nico_P | pixelma: thanks |
| 20:45:17 | gevaerts | domonoky: it does _request_ them. It just doesn't use them |
| 20:45:47 | domonoky | gevaerts: good to know.. :-) |
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| 20:52:46 | gevaerts | domonoky: I actually want to add a secondary 100mA configuration at some point, so that if we connect to a system that can't give 500mA we still can get a data connection |
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| 20:55:02 | MajorC | gevaerts, what seems to be the main obsticle in the pp usb-implementation? |
| 20:56:23 | scorche|sh | MajorC: have you read the wiki page? |
| 20:56:50 | scorche|sh | gevaerts: could you clarify a bit about "it requests them, but doenst use them"? |
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| 20:57:25 | gevaerts | scorche|sh: it requests 500 mA over USB, but AFAIK there is no code that tells the ipod to actually use more than 100mA |
| 20:57:51 | scorche|sh | that seems a bit...backwards :) |
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| 21:02:07 | amiconn | scorche: It means that we have to find out how to tell the charger: "500mA are available, use them if necessary" |
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| 21:04:16 | scorche|sh | yes...i realise that...i just wasnt aware of the exact issue and made an off-hand comment.. |
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| 21:10:34 | Nico_P | Mouser_X: you've had problems with recent builds? |
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| 21:13:10 | bluebrother | hmm. Do we need a separate manual for the m3? I guess so |
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| 21:14:50 | amiconn | yes |
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| 21:16:45 | pixelma | bluebrother: and we probably need a solution for "how to include remotes" for it |
| 21:17:18 | bluebrother | aaah, right. There was this thing about the m3 ... |
| 21:17:37 | bluebrother | for now, we could treat the m3 remote simply as main control |
| 21:17:57 | scorche|sh | amiconn: thought anymore about getting a mail up about berlin as a location? |
| 21:18:07 | amiconn | mmhhhmmrrrrmmm |
| 21:18:17 | pixelma | bluebrother: the main device also has buttons and you can perfectly control the unit without the remote (except the plugins) |
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| 21:19:47 | bluebrother | hmpf. Makes it somewhat hard ... :( |
| 21:19:57 | bluebrother | how does the OF handle lcd-less mode on the m3? |
| 21:20:27 | pixelma | fine too (afaik) |
| 21:20:51 | scorche|sh | amiconn: what was that?...it was a bit muffled ;) |
| 21:21:15 | bluebrother | what's the resolution of the remote? Same as the m5 remote? |
| 21:21:55 | pixelma | it's basically the same remote for all three Iaudio Rockbox targets |
| 21:21:55 | bluebrother | hmm, DeviceChart doesn't hold the m3. |
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| 21:23:11 | pixelma | I mean the ones with a working port (I believe there was another port started Iaudio7 or so) |
| 21:23:31 | bluebrother | isn't the D2 an iaudio as well? |
| 21:23:40 | scorche|sh | yes |
| 21:23:43 | pixelma | ah yes |
| 21:23:48 | scorche|sh | at least it is cowon |
| 21:24:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Cowon's site doesn't list it as an iAUDIO device. |
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| 21:24:14 | pixelma | ok :) |
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| 21:24:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | I don't think Cowon designates any of their PMP devices as iAUDIO. |
| 21:26:00 | Bagder | but they do use the iaudio brand in there at times still |
| 21:26:31 | Bagder | I recall my D2 having it at some places, can't remember exactly where right now |
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| 21:27:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | Bagder: Ah. |
| 21:27:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've only gotten a brief climpse of the D2 up close, so I don't remember if it did or not. |
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| 21:31:27 | bluebrother | pixelma: any objections against committing a preliminary m3 platform file? At least it makes the manual build ;-) |
| 21:31:38 | bluebrother | (and I won't be able filling the buttons −− no device) |
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| 22:02:55 | fml | markun: good morning! Have you seen FS #8899? |
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| 22:18:29 | Nico_P | Llorean: hi. things wrong with my latest commits? |
| 22:21:09 | Llorean | Nico_P: Haven't checked it yet. |
| 22:22:08 | Nico_P | I saw some talk in the logs |
| 22:25:20 | Llorean | You already closed the task on flyspray? |
| 22:25:30 | Llorean | For 17109 I think it was? |
| 22:27:45 | Nico_P | I fixed NSF |
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| 22:28:46 | BuXY95 | hi all |
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| 22:29:14 | BuXY95 | i tried to check all the faq's but i didn't find an important thing (or idea) |
| 22:29:24 | Llorean | Nico_P: Okay, that was the one problem I've tracked down and reproduced. |
| 22:29:28 | BuXY95 | how about using the iriver ihp-120 as a usb sound card? |
| 22:29:45 | Llorean | Nico_P: Pondlife has some problems with the folder skip, when changing folders backward, but I couldn't reproduce on my Gigabeat at all. |
| 22:29:48 | dionoea | BuXY95: gevearts was something about something like that i believe |
| 22:29:50 | n1s | BuXY95: not possible because of the hardware unfortunately |
| 22:30:03 | Llorean | Nico_P: I experienced a "Codec Error" when rapidly skipping FLACs backward, but haven't reproduced it yet or tracked down a revision. |
| 22:30:04 | dionoea | ah ok :) take n1s's answer then :p |
| 22:30:06 | gevaerts | dionoea: not on H100 |
| 22:30:37 | n1s | the usb on iriver h120 (ihp-120) is hardware controlled and only UMS |
| 22:30:40 | BuXY95 | too bad, i wanted to buy a usb sound card too, and it looks like i really have to :) |
| 22:31:00 | BuXY95 | okay |
| 22:31:59 | BuXY95 | so i have my "brand new" used ihp-120 here, with original firmware 1.33 (E?). what do you say, should i upgrade it to the latest 1.66 and then install rockbox? |
| 22:32:24 | Nico_P | Llorean: I think I fixed the codec error too |
| 22:32:35 | Nico_P | I tried reproducing pondlife's problem but couldn't |
| 22:33:00 | n1s | BuXY95: no need to upgrade it before, you will need to install a new original firmware together with the rockbox bootloader anyway |
| 22:33:05 | * | Nico_P has to leave |
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| 22:33:27 | BuXY95 | oh, stupid me, didn't read the install manual yet :( :) |
| 22:33:49 | BuXY95 | you're so kind people you know! :) |
| 22:36:14 | BuXY95 | last question: can i download the existing firmware from my ihp120? |
| 22:36:46 | Bagder | BuXY95: no, it's only available in flash |
| 22:36:57 | Bagder | so not that easily anyway |
| 22:38:08 | BuXY95 | okay, so goodbye mr. 1.33 then! |
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| 22:48:07 | preglow | jhMikeS: mmm.... armv6... |
| 22:48:16 | preglow | jhMikeS: can you tell me what's the point of the cpy instruction? |
| 22:50:27 | jhMikeS | cpy? |
| 22:50:57 | preglow | yeah |
| 22:51:05 | jhMikeS | I'm just doing quicky commits as I discover things and haven't seen that yet. |
| 22:51:38 | preglow | it seems cpy is a version of mov that doesn't touch flags, i just don't get the meaning of that |
| 22:51:41 | preglow | heh |
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| 22:52:21 | delta009 | Hi! |
| 22:52:52 | delta009 | May I have write permissions for the wiki, please ? My WikiName is MathieuGuimondMorganti. |
| 22:53:10 | jhMikeS | preglow: doesn't mov without the s accomplish that? |
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| 22:53:44 | jhMikeS | maybe it's shorthand for some ldr thing |
| 22:53:51 | preglow | jhMikeS: that's what i'm thinking... |
| 22:54:07 | preglow | jhMikeS: only place i've ever seen 'cpy' is the arm quick ref thing |
| 22:54:45 | jhMikeS | I'll just try it |
| 22:56:43 | jhMikeS | gcc doesn't understand it |
| 22:56:49 | preglow | lovely |
| 22:58:13 | jhMikeS | http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0344d/Cacichgi.html |
| 22:58:37 | delta009 | I'm really sorry to interrupt your conversation, but ios there someone here who could grant me the write permission for the Wiki? I would appreciate it! |
| 22:58:55 | domonoky | delta009: your wiki name ? |
| 22:59:00 | delta009 | MathieuGuimondMorganti |
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| 23:00:02 | Alex_SC2e | Hey guys! I have a question about Rockbox. |
| 23:00:03 | domonoky | done, promise not to spam ! |
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| 23:00:26 | * | scorche|sh waves at phinze |
| 23:00:43 | scorche|sh | phinze: so what is your gallery project if i may ask |
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| 23:00:53 | jhMikeS | preglow: it looks like a pseudoinstuction that ARM's assemblers use |
| 23:00:56 | Alex_SC2e | I've been using it for about half a year now, but the recent builds are REALLY slow on my Sansa e250r. Also, I have to click before I can use the wheel in every single menu. Does this happen to anyone else, and is there a way to fix it? |
| 23:01:13 | delta009 | I promise ;) altough English is not my native language : I'll will correct my mistakes as much as possible using a dictionary before committing any changes to the Wiki. |
| 23:01:24 | delta009 | Thank you! |
| 23:01:51 | delta009 | Bye. |
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| 23:02:18 | * | gevaerts also waves at phinze |
| 23:03:12 | Alex_SC2e | Does anyone know what I am talking about? |
| 23:04:06 | Alex_SC2e | I know you guys are active, so I know you can hear me. Please answer. |
| 23:04:17 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: Please don't do that. |
| 23:04:17 | Bagder | we can read you fine |
| 23:04:36 | n1s | Alex_SC2e: _what_ is it that's slow |
| 23:04:36 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: Not everyone here is a sansa user, for example. |
| 23:04:36 | preglow | jhMikeS: for what? |
| 23:05:06 | Alex_SC2e | Well, it starts skipping mp3's @ 320 Kbps. |
| 23:05:17 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: Using what revision? |
| 23:05:29 | Alex_SC2e | Also, when playing a song, navigating menus is horribly slow. I'm currently using the most updated build. |
| 23:05:37 | n1s | Alex_SC2e: are you using eq/crossfeed/replaygain? |
| 23:05:39 | Llorean | What _revision_? |
| 23:06:00 | Alex_SC2e | it's been doing this for about a month. I am not using crossfeed/replaygain. What do you mean by revision? |
| 23:06:07 | Llorean | The specific version number. |
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| 23:06:23 | DerPapst_ | r17234 for example |
| 23:07:12 | Alex_SC2e | Oh, ok. Whatever the most recent one is.. I believe r17148 |
| 23:07:28 | DerPapst_ | you can get it in Debug > Rockbox Info |
| 23:07:40 | jhMikeS | preglow: "The CPY instruction is a synonym for MOV without the S suffix, and with Operand2 an unshifted register. It copies the unshifted value of Rm into Rd." So IOW I don't get the point over mov Rd, Rm |
| 23:07:41 | Alex_SC2e | r17148-080416 |
| 23:08:24 | DerPapst_ | s/debug/system./.. whatever :-P |
| 23:09:26 | Alex_SC2e | My version is r17148-080416. |
| 23:09:27 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: And as n1s asked, EQ, Crossfeed, or Replaygain? |
| 23:09:38 | Alex_SC2e | EQ, yes. Everything else, no |
| 23:09:56 | Llorean | How many bands are set? |
| 23:10:37 | Alex_SC2e | All 5 are set to at least .5 more |
| 23:10:52 | Llorean | That's most likely your problem then for the skipping |
| 23:10:58 | Alex_SC2e | should I disable it? |
| 23:10:59 | Llorean | the EQ is very CPU intensive, and the Sansa is not particularly fast. |
| 23:11:22 | Llorean | You may not need to disable every band, the less of them that are active the less load it creates. |
| 23:11:36 | * | jhMikeS always sets the EQ to have at least one band be 0 gain |
| 23:11:38 | Alex_SC2e | Oh. O.o Yeah, the sansa blows. I want to get a new mp3 player, preferably iPod Classic, but I need to wait for Rockbox to come out for it. |
| 23:11:53 | bluebrother | don't hold your breath |
| 23:12:18 | Alex_SC2e | Yeah, Development's been awfully slow, hasn't it? |
| 23:12:26 | jhMikeS | development? |
| 23:12:29 | n1s | Alex_SC2e: playing mp3 at such a high bitrate will eat about half the available cpu time |
| 23:12:29 | bluebrother | the classic is a completely different beast. |
| 23:12:43 | bluebrother | there is no development for the Ipod Classic |
| 23:12:47 | Alex_SC2e | n1s: Music sucks at lower qualities xD |
| 23:13:07 | Alex_SC2e | Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's slow. It's supposed to be funny. |
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| 23:13:39 | Alex_SC2e | Because if they ever come out with one for classic, it'll be a long time from now, when I'll want a new one anyhow. Maybe I'll get a 16GB Touch. |
| 23:14:00 | Alex_SC2e | WLan = Epic Win, In my opinion. The sansa is slower than a dead horse, I hate it., |
| 23:14:02 | Bagder | Rockbox is _we_ not _they_ |
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| 23:14:18 | Bagder | ... and I like the sansa ;-) |
| 23:14:19 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: The Sansa has low enough sound quality anyway that 320kbps is definitely a waste. |
| 23:14:21 | jhMikeS | Sansas is not slower than any other PP-based device |
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| 23:15:00 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: If you're going to be encoding at high bitrates, you might consider trying musepack. I believe our decoder for that is faster. |
| 23:15:26 | jhMikeS | actually it's a bit on the fast side over things like H10 |
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| 23:22:54 | Alex_SC2e | Sorry. How do I use musepack on rockbox? |
| 23:23:10 | BigBambi | Same as anything else? |
| 23:23:13 | Alex_SC2e | Oh. my apologies, I'm dumb |
| 23:23:16 | Alex_SC2e | It's a file format. xD |
| 23:23:18 | BigBambi | Copy it over, play it |
| 23:24:09 | Alex_SC2e | That still doesn't solve the problem of having to click twice for menus |
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| 23:24:22 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: I'm not experiencing that problem on my e200. |
| 23:24:26 | Llorean | Could you describe how to reproduce it? |
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| 23:25:03 | * | jhMikeS wanted to recommend APE |
| 23:25:49 | BigBambi | jhMikeS is evil :P |
| 23:26:01 | jhMikeS | >:] |
| 23:26:09 | * | n1s want's to commit that japanese translation update but doesn't understand a word of it, do we have a policy or something for unmaintained translations? |
| 23:26:27 | scorche|sh | phinze: so what is your gallery project if i may ask |
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| 23:27:26 | Alex_SC2e | Llorean: I play an mp3 from my database. From now on, I have to hit a key before the wheel works in menus. |
| 23:28:39 | * | jhMikeS has had that happen but only after exiting plugins |
| 23:28:41 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: How do you get to the menu without pressing a key? Please, be more descriptive. |
| 23:28:45 | phinze | scorche|sh: "Facebook / Flickr Style Image Region Based Tagging" phinze.com/share/phinze_gallery_app.pdf">http://phinze.com/share/phinze_gallery_app.pdf |
| 23:29:44 | scorche|sh | phinze: well, i wish you luck, and hope you stay a bit with us anyway...even to chat :) |
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| 23:30:41 | phinze | scorche|sh: yeah i'll definitely be around... hoping i can ease into some rockbox community contributions |
| 23:33:50 | Alex_SC2e | Llorean: It's hard. Um. Ok. I hit the select key when I'm highlighting database. After 3 or 4 seconds, it is in the database menu. Now the wheel doesn't work, until I press a key. Now the wheel is enabled (Still in the database menu). It will now do that anywhere and everywhere, all menus. |
| 23:34:43 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: It doesn't take me 3 or 4 seconds to get into the database menu (about 0.5 to 1) and my wheel is instantly usable... |
| 23:35:19 | phinze | scorche|sh: you definitely have a great base of developers... it's been really enjoyable getting to know the community a bit... seems like a worthwhile place and project to spend some of my spare time on :) |
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| 23:35:58 | Zone-Blaze | Hello. |
| 23:36:20 | Alex_SC2e | Llorean: Well, my brother and I both have this issue, it's been happening for a long time |
| 23:37:11 | Rincewind | phinze: I just read your application. I wish I could write half as good as you. |
| 23:37:13 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: Well, please test to figure out when it began then, and file a proper bug report. It needs someone who can reproduce it to investigate. |
| 23:37:38 | n1s | Alex_SC2e: does it only happen while playing music or always? |
| 23:38:04 | phinze | Rincewind: thanks. :) i almost double majored in computer science and english lit. |
| 23:38:27 | Zone-Blaze | I need help |
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| 23:38:34 | gevaerts | phinze: are you saying that you're only good at writing applications ? ;) |
| 23:39:07 | Alex_SC2e | n1s: Always |
| 23:39:09 | phinze | gevaerts: i'd like to think i'm decent at writing code as well, but i guess i will be finding that out this summer. :D |
| 23:39:55 | n1s | Alex_SC2e: could you test with reset settings? (just a wild guess) |
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| 23:40:40 | Llorean | Alex_SC2e: Do you have "first keypress enables backlight" on? |
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| 23:45:02 | phinze | something got you down, scorche? |
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| 23:45:32 | scorche | phinze: eh...temporary packet loss |
| 23:45:59 | phinze | those darn packets, always losing their way |
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