| 00:00:08 | preglow | i think perhaps also the struct members might be uppercase |
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| 00:00:37 | jhMikeS | I tried that but wasn't fond of it. |
| 00:01:08 | preglow | but no, i agree, consistent naming of the base pointer is good |
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| 00:02:35 | jhMikeS | "base" when it might be one of a number of identical modules since the serial and i2c driver will need to use more than one. |
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| 00:03:40 | preglow | ehh |
| 00:03:48 | preglow | what is debug screen code doing in the target tree? |
| 00:06:53 | jhMikeS | it's been there for the gigabeats for some time. I don't know what more is _not_ doing in the target tree. :) |
| 00:08:00 | amiconn | The debug code shouldn't be in the target tree |
| 00:08:38 | amiconn | *debug menu code |
| 00:08:51 | jhMikeS | any suggestions on how to fix #ifdef hell there? |
| 00:09:57 | Nico_P | some sort of target tree in apps/ ? |
| 00:10:18 | preglow | well, the target tree is definitely not the right place for it |
| 00:10:26 | preglow | but i agree that ifdef hells aren't very nice |
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| 00:12:19 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The way to fix that ifdef hell is to make the hardware specific menu items superfluous... |
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| 00:13:13 | jhMikeS | which seems like a contradiction given that it shows hardware specific information |
| 00:13:45 | amiconn | The goal is that showing most of this info is no longer necessary |
| 00:14:00 | amiconn | ...because everything works properly |
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| 01:01:31 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: are you still far away from audio on the S? |
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| 01:10:55 | bertrik | is there a styleguide or coding guide for rockbox? |
| 01:11:43 | bertrik | (maybe this is the wrong time to ask ... :) ) |
| 01:12:42 | amiconn | docs/CONTRIBUTING |
| 01:16:36 | bertrik | I was wondering about this specifically with regard to header files |
| 01:16:50 | bertrik | * when to use #include <> and when to use #include "" |
| 01:17:00 | bertrik | * including header files within header files |
| 01:17:25 | bertrik | * foo.c including foo.h to make sure that foo.h and foo.c are consistent |
| 01:18:00 | bertrik | * which #defines go in the .h file and which ones go into the .c files |
| 01:18:03 | bertrik | etc. |
| 01:18:46 | bertrik | I think I'll write a message to rockbox-dev |
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| 01:19:16 | DerPapst | night all |
| 01:19:24 | bertrik | goodnight |
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| 02:20:33 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: (for the logs) probably not too far. three things need doing 1) audio mux 2) pcm driver (we'll skip SDMA for now since that needs a program for the DMA RISC core and afaik I'd have to patch the assembler to have an assembler for it) 3) Doing the codec driver (the WM8758 is rather compatible but that needs redoing anyhow) |
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| 02:35:22 | saratoga | jhMikeS: how close is sound on the gigabeast? |
| 02:38:31 | pixelma | I think that question was answered about 15 minutes ago (IIUC, reading logs too) |
| 02:38:37 | jhMikeS | yes, logs :) |
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| 04:09:17 | * | JdGordon has no idea why that last warning is still there for the mr500 |
| 04:09:30 | JdGordon | either the sim and the main build should have it, or neither! |
| 04:11:29 | alienbiker99 | hmm. i seem to keep getting this error abut FPA instructions in cygwin when im building |
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| 05:31:48 | purpleposeidon | Right, I got a sansa e250 |
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| 05:54:34 | jhMikeS | toffe82: got the board a couple days ago, thanks. |
| 05:54:55 | toffe82 | ;) |
| 05:55:37 | * | toffe82 is stuck in mexico :( |
| 05:55:43 | jhMikeS | stuck? |
| 05:55:57 | Shaid | he forgot his torch |
| 05:56:06 | Shaid | and now there are grue circling. |
| 05:56:43 | toffe82 | you don't say stuck when you are somwhere and can go away ? I have to learn english :) |
| 05:57:37 | jhMikeS | if you _can't_ go away for some reason. hopefully it's not some passport/INS trouble. :O |
| 05:58:26 | soap | transporting fruit across the California border is a serious crime! |
| 05:58:34 | toffe82 | passport could be a problem , I will see on tuesday |
| 05:58:36 | jhMikeS | either way? |
| 05:58:55 | toffe82 | I don't have any visa on my passport :) |
| 05:59:22 | jhMikeS | so they think you're an illegal mexican trying into the US and take 'er jerbs? |
| 05:59:50 | Shaid | yew curnt haf my jerb! |
| 05:59:55 | Shaid | actually, you can take it |
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| 06:00:29 | * | jhMikeS hands scorche a Ricola |
| 06:00:35 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: exactly , sometimes it is easier to be illegal tnah tryimg to be legal |
| 06:00:46 | Shaid | We're off-topic, we should shush. |
| 06:00:53 | toffe82 | :) |
| 06:01:21 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: did you work on the board or not yet ? |
| 06:02:30 | jhMikeS | toffe82: yes. verified the known connection. I wasn't also to get a trace on the audio outputs though so had to g |
| 06:02:35 | jhMikeS | go "pro" |
| 06:03:57 | jhMikeS | only got so far (up to the LDO itself) and couldn't find it even with an ohmmeter :\ |
| 06:04:47 | toffe82 | I had a lot of problem tracing on this board, I don't know why the contact are so bad... |
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| 06:06:54 | jhMikeS | A few traces around some components in the output area were broken along with a few holes bored in some pads :) so that could have broken something. |
| 06:08:08 | toffe82 | When I was looking for the mute, I broke one trace I think, but after I think it is just missinge some resistor or cap perhpas |
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| 06:11:43 | jhMikeS | I know a GPIO line to carry a DC signal can't have a series cap and if the resistor is missing I just test both sides of its pads. I was still able to double check things against the block diagrams and see that having the analogue enabled wasn't important to using the i2c. |
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| 06:14:05 | jhMikeS | in short it let me know I'd better double-check my code |
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| 06:16:29 | jhMikeS | and it all came down to reversing the r/w address bit in the i2c driver :P |
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| 06:56:35 | purpleposeidon | Rockbox is HELLA AWESOME. The only bug is that if you plug it into USB without powering it down, it freezes and you have to hold the power button down for like 5 seconds |
| 06:58:03 | purpleposeidon | And something funny happened while I was trying to record, it froze, but I could still hear sound |
| 06:58:48 | JdGordon | if they are the only bugs you've found your doing well :) |
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| 07:01:53 | purpleposeidon | Oh, no. But those were the more spectacular ones |
| 07:02:37 | krazykit | purpleposeidon, well, those are target-specific, it sounds like. i'd guess you're using a sansa? |
| 07:02:52 | purpleposeidon | yez. Ai juzt gaut it 2dai! :D |
| 07:03:21 | * | DerPapst has a small bug-farm on his daps. Too bad the most don't show up often.... |
| 07:03:28 | scorche | we like english in here... |
| 07:03:41 | krazykit | purpleposeidon, please review the IrcGuidelines in the topic. writing like that is not only illegible, it burns the eyes. |
| 07:03:53 | scorche | and our goggles dont do anything |
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| 07:18:27 | goffa | whee.. updated my h140 and x5l... havent done that in like a year |
| 07:18:31 | goffa | think i have the h140 sold |
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| 07:35:40 | markun | linuxstb: I didn't fix the UIE problem yet and defined a dummy function in my bootloader file to get on with the rest. Did you fix it? |
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| 07:57:00 | Dhraakellian | heh... another new Sansa user... Must be the Woot. |
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| 08:30:48 | linuxstb | markun: Not really, but I think the problem is that system.o isn't being linked with the bootloader. |
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| 08:31:15 | linuxstb | My "fix" for now is to add a call to UIE() in my bootloader (at the very end, which isn't executed). |
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| 08:32:28 | * | linuxstb now has a tick interrupt working (very quickly...) on the M260 and DAX |
| 08:33:43 | amiconn | I don't get that. It shouldn't matter whether it's called from C or from asm |
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| 08:34:54 | amiconn | Perhaps it needs to be declared in crt0.S |
| 08:35:49 | amiconn | .extern UIE should do that |
| 08:35:50 | linuxstb | Here's my (work in progress) crt0.S - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/crt0.txt |
| 08:35:55 | linuxstb | I'll try that. |
| 08:36:51 | amiconn | eh.... |
| 08:37:02 | amiconn | You have .global UIE in that file |
| 08:37:38 | amiconn | Same for irq and fiq |
| 08:37:48 | linuxstb | Is that wrong? Other crt0.S files have it. |
| 08:37:50 | amiconn | That can't work |
| 08:38:15 | amiconn | .global exports a symbol from that asm file |
| 08:38:49 | linuxstb | That's what I thought, but removing it made no difference. |
| 08:39:08 | amiconn | So the linker thinks that crt0.S defines UIE, and doesn't even try to link system.o if that's not needed for other reasons |
| 08:39:50 | linuxstb | Deleting those .global lines makes no difference though. |
| 08:40:40 | linuxstb | (and adding .extern UIE) |
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| 08:41:47 | purpleposeidon | Ken Perlin has some interesting java simulations applets for input with few buttons. |
| 08:42:05 | amiconn | That's odd. Also, why does it work for main() then? |
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| 08:47:11 | amiconn | The gas manual says that .extern isn't necessary (but I'd still use it to indicate what external symbols the asm code needs |
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| 08:48:32 | amiconn | .global is definitely wrong there though |
| 08:48:45 | * | amiconn would like to see that effect himself |
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| 08:53:17 | linuxstb | amiconn: If you add the line "bl UIE" to crt0-pp-bl.S and then try and build an ipod bootloader, you get the same issue. UIE is compiled in system.o |
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| 08:59:16 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: if it's what I think it is, see the bootloader/gigabeat-s.c for a solution (only way I could make it work) |
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| 09:01:29 | amiconn | That looks like an utter hack, and is iiuc a similar solution to what linuxstb did. I'd like to find out how to do this properly |
| 09:01:34 | linuxstb | Hmm, that's more or less the same as my "fix"... |
| 09:02:08 | amiconn | For the linker it shouldn't matter at all whether a function is called from C, asm, or both |
| 09:03:13 | jhMikeS | It seems if c never references the file, then it's never seen as referenced unless there's some way to force a symbol reference |
| 09:03:39 | amiconn | The asm references the symbol |
| 09:04:02 | jhMikeS | doesn't seem to count since the compiler doesn't see that |
| 09:04:11 | amiconn | Since you can link all sorts of objects (C, asm, pascal, fortran, whatever) |
| 09:04:13 | linuxstb | But it's a linker issue, not a compiler issue. |
| 09:04:18 | amiconn | ...it shouldn't matter |
| 09:04:29 | jhMikeS | what generates the dependencies? |
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| 09:10:32 | amiconn | The linker |
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| 09:19:22 | * | amiconn has a suspicion |
| 09:25:14 | markun | amiconn: what is it, or do you want to verify it first? |
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| 09:27:52 | jhMikeS | amiconn: cough it up :) I don't really like that hack either. |
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| 10:25:35 | JdGordon | Bagder: think its worth fixing the regex on the web site to ignore mr500 o it doesnt tihnk its a revision link? |
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| 10:31:33 | B4gder | oh |
| 10:31:44 | B4gder | yeah, I'll look into that later on |
| 10:36:17 | markun | B4gder: do you think it's too early to add support for big-endian arm in our rockboxdev.sh? |
| 10:36:53 | B4gder | no |
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| 10:37:51 | * | linuxstb threatens to add another new target to the build system.... |
| 10:37:56 | B4gder | yay |
| 10:38:08 | B4gder | 38 isn't enough! |
| 10:38:15 | B4gder | or whatever the current amount is |
| 10:38:25 | markun | B4gder: this patch does the trick: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3.diff |
| 10:38:29 | linuxstb | I'm more concerned about the 3 unfinished ones I have there... |
| 10:39:30 | B4gder | markun: what are you gonna name the toolchain? armbe-elf-gcc? |
| 10:40:49 | markun | B4gder: no, it's still arm-elf-cc but with -mbig-endian |
| 10:40:50 | linuxstb | It needs a separate compiler? |
| 10:40:56 | B4gder | ah |
| 10:40:58 | markun | arm-elf-gcc |
| 10:40:58 | B4gder | right |
| 10:41:22 | B4gder | so we'll need to rebuild all build servers arm chains before it gets to the build table later on |
| 10:41:47 | markun | I added a arm940tbecc to tools/configure |
| 10:42:13 | markun | yes, and they shouldn't reuse the old patch, so maybe we should give it another name |
| 10:42:19 | linuxstb | I think some _ characters would help there... |
| 10:42:39 | linuxstb | i.e. arm940t_be_cc |
| 10:42:46 | markun | yes, looks better |
| 10:43:06 | linuxstb | Or even s/be/bigendian/ |
| 10:43:07 | markun | btw, should it be called arm9tdmi_be_cc? |
| 10:43:08 | B4gder | markun: yes, use a different name to prevent accidents |
| 10:43:56 | markun | B4gder: I can't upload the new patch, or can I? |
| 10:44:21 | LinusN | gah, does this mean i have to build new cygwin compilers? :-( |
| 10:44:34 | markun | LinusN: only for meizu users :) |
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| 10:45:00 | markun | and maybe we can find a way to switch to little-endian mode if that makes things easier |
| 10:45:22 | LinusN | nah |
| 10:45:49 | B4gder | markun: you can, in the gcc dir in the www part of svn |
| 10:46:30 | B4gder | markun: if the OF runs be, I bet all peripherals etc are made for it so it'll be awkward to switch |
| 10:47:17 | markun | B4gder: the coprosessor (calmrisc) is also be |
| 10:47:48 | * | gevaerts looks around and seens that a lot of ata.c people are awake... |
| 10:49:15 | gevaerts | Could someone with ata.c knowledge have a look at FS #8943 ? |
| 10:52:09 | gevaerts | The issue is that ata.c does a blocking wait for usb disconnect, which makes sleep timeout handling not work any more, so the disk keeps spinning |
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| 10:54:59 | amiconn | gevaerts: That blocking is necessary on devices with hardware usb-ata bridge, but of course not for software usb |
| 10:55:23 | preglow | markun: all other arm targets are little endian, so that would probably give the least amount of surprises |
| 10:55:34 | gevaerts | amiconn: the thing is that I don't understand ata.c enough to know if it's safe to just disable it for software usb |
| 10:56:57 | markun | preglow: what would? |
| 10:57:08 | preglow | markun: switching it to little endian |
| 10:57:47 | markun | well, maybe, but for now I'm going to work on it as a big-endian target because that's easier |
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| 10:58:29 | amiconn | The thread is quite easy to understand. Just take care to not call ata_idle_notifys if usb is active (those might write to the disk) |
| 10:59:10 | amiconn | But I don't think that not spinning down is a real issue |
| 10:59:56 | petur | it is if you want to charge... |
| 10:59:59 | gevaerts | It is as long as we don't get charging right. With older batteries boost+spinning disk is enough to make it not charge |
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| 11:00:38 | preglow | markun: switching to little endian shouldn't be hard, what kind of an arm core is it? |
| 11:00:49 | markun | 940t |
| 11:00:52 | gevaerts | I'l try to do a patch tonight. |
| 11:00:59 | amiconn | Many usb-ata bridges don't spin down the disk. It's a problem of our charging handling, not of the ata thread |
| 11:01:19 | * | gevaerts doesn't disagree |
| 11:01:27 | preglow | hmm, then it doesn't have the setend instruction, no |
| 11:02:42 | markun | and how do we compile the first few instructions big-endian to switch to little-endian mode? |
| 11:03:13 | amiconn | markun: If it's really only a few, I'd just use .word <hex code> |
| 11:04:06 | markun | amiconn: I guess it's just the first jump from the vector table and the instruction after the jump to switch |
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| 11:07:17 | markun | austriancoder: wouldn't it be simpler to just define AUDIOHW_HAVE_TREBLE etc in the header files of the codecs? |
| 11:08:06 | markun | or what do we gain by this extra AUDIOHW_CAPS step? |
| 11:08:13 | Manoj` | hi giuys. I installed rockbox.zip from the 23rd on my ipod video 60GB, and now rockbox loads −− and does nothing |
| 11:08:34 | Manoj` | I can't even shut it down, I have to wait until the battery runs out |
| 11:09:05 | markun | I think the reset combination should always work |
| 11:09:24 | Manoj` | I can type in the information it presents when booting |
| 11:10:27 | markun | maybe it's better to reset, enter USB mode and try today's build. But I'll wait for someone with an ipod to help you. |
| 11:10:33 | Manoj` | Rockbox boot loader; Version 20060126-1839 |
| 11:10:49 | markun | 2006, wow |
| 11:10:55 | markun | ah, bootloader :) |
| 11:11:04 | pixelma | looks like you need to update the bootloader then |
| 11:11:49 | Manoj` | right |
| 11:12:29 | Manoj` | I am pressin menu and select, which should be the reset |
| 11:13:05 | Manoj` | The thing is, tis is with the USB cable connected (I had to connect the USB cable for the ipod to charge) |
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| 11:13:42 | Manoj` | So, it initially shows just the battery icon, and then rockbox boots −− but never goes into USB mode |
| 11:13:43 | JdGordon | Bagder: the ifp label is still in the build table.. |
| 11:14:03 | B4gder | yes, as always when builds are removed! ;-) |
| 11:14:10 | austriancoder | markun: its just an one-liner to define CAPS.. looks nicer then defining 2-n defines.. I have "stolen" the idead of caps from /firmware/export/pcm_sampr.h |
| 11:14:12 | B4gder | since they're still around, not just shown in the table |
| 11:14:12 | * | JdGordon congratulates everyone on again making the table almost too wide for my lcd :p |
| 11:14:16 | B4gder | it'll die in a few days |
| 11:14:19 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 11:14:48 | B4gder | the table is built "in memory" to be all builds "high", but just the 20 top-post rows are shown |
| 11:15:20 | B4gder | all builds being the last week or so |
| 11:15:53 | gevaerts | Manoj`: when you manage to reset it again, hold select+play to get into disk mode and let it charge for a while first |
| 11:16:14 | pixelma | Manoj`: for entering disk mode you need to press select+play... |
| 11:16:25 | Manoj` | gevaerts: I am hoping I can get it to reset |
| 11:16:57 | markun | austriancoder: yes, maybe if you add a lot more capabilities it becomes nicer |
| 11:17:36 | Manoj` | aha!. I did manage to get it to reset −− and hitting select plus play before it rebooted worked! |
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| 11:19:31 | Manoj` | now that I have it in USB mode −− should I upgrade the bootloader? |
| 11:19:46 | gevaerts | yes |
| 11:21:05 | pixelma | the installation instructions in the manual also explain how to update the bootloader |
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| 11:31:46 | Manoj` | gah. rbutilqt can't find www.rockbox.org |
| 11:32:09 | Manoj` | www.rockbox.org has address 91.191.140.131 |
| 11:32:17 | Manoj` | so dns is indeed working |
| 11:35:13 | petur | maybe one of the download.rockbox.org servers is down? |
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| 11:36:33 | B4gder | Manoj`: does it say specifically that www.rockbox.org isn't found? |
| 11:37:15 | gevaerts | all three download.rockbox.orgs seem to respond |
| 11:37:26 | Manoj` | it does say that |
| 11:38:17 | Manoj` | "Network error: Host www.rockbox.org not found. Please check your network and proxy settings." |
| 11:38:28 | Manoj` | I have the proxy set to "no proxy" |
| 11:38:58 | Manoj` | Hmm. maybe it does not like 64bit machines? |
| 11:39:56 | gevaerts | You could try the "manual" method (i.e. using ipodpatcher). |
| 11:45:11 | Manoj` | [INFO] Using internal bootloader - 50136 bytes |
| 11:45:11 | Manoj` | [1] 4542 segmentation fault sudo ./ipodpatcher |
| 11:45:18 | Manoj` | This does not bode well. |
| 11:45:54 | B4gder | that the 64bit version? |
| 11:46:08 | Manoj` | yup |
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| 11:47:43 | Manoj` | actually, even the 32bit ipodpatcher seems to fail |
| 11:48:12 | Manoj` | They both scanned cprrectly, found the ipod −−- and failed to install |
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| 11:49:48 | eightfold | hi |
| 11:50:13 | soap | amiconn, I know the Gigabeat F doesn't spin down the disk while in USB mode either, but mine gets quite hot when left for hours plugged into USB, Ditto (heat) with the way the iPods currently behave with the Rockbox USB stack. Is that safe (for the hardware?) |
| 11:50:20 | eightfold | i'm about to install rockbox an ipod mini. the color of the arrows on the click wheel is gray |
| 11:50:28 | eightfold | that means it's first gen, right+ |
| 11:50:41 | soap | eightfold, what color is the mini? |
| 11:50:50 | eightfold | soap: blue |
| 11:51:06 | gevaerts | Manoj`: does it give an error message ? |
| 11:51:10 | soap | Then I'd say that's a pretty good indication it is a first gen, or a Frankenstein. |
| 11:51:19 | eightfold | isn't there a way to check with serial number? |
| 11:51:29 | eightfold | soap: what's a frankenstein? |
| 11:51:51 | soap | eightfold, A mismatched motherboard and case/buttons. |
| 11:52:16 | eightfold | soap: apple themselves did that? |
| 11:52:25 | Manoj` | [1] 4679 segmentation fault ./ipodpatcher |
| 11:52:29 | soap | No, but eBay sellers do all the time. |
| 11:52:36 | Manoj` | even strace does not help much |
| 11:52:44 | eightfold | soap: ah, but this is new, out of the box |
| 11:52:46 | eightfold | almost |
| 11:52:54 | soap | eightfold, Instead of looking at the back with your reading glasses on trying to copy down the serial number, take a quick glance at the back and see if the capacity is etched on the back of the player - if so it is a 2nd gen. |
| 11:53:26 | Manoj` | open("/dev/sde", O_RDWR) = 7 |
| 11:53:29 | soap | eightfold, New? Is this a mini or a Nano? |
| 11:53:49 | Manoj` | then it writes it is going to use the internal boot loader −− and then boom, Segmentation fault |
| 11:53:50 | eightfold | soap: what did you just say? :) what should i check for? if the serial is on the back? |
| 11:53:58 | eightfold | eightfold: new as in unused |
| 11:54:04 | eightfold | eightfold: a mini |
| 11:54:21 | pixelma | eightfold: I believe another indicator is if the it has the storage engraved on the back or not |
| 11:54:35 | eightfold | a1051 |
| 11:54:36 | eightfold | model # |
| 11:55:04 | soap | take a quick glance at the back and see if the capacity is etched on the back of the player - if so it is a 2nd gen |
| 11:55:52 | soap | I was (trying to) say that instead of looking up a serial number you can simply look at the back, check for the capacity etching, and know if it is a 1st or 2nd gen. (2nd gen has capacity etched on back) |
| 11:58:31 | preglow | amiconn: i just confirmed the template struct approach shaves off bytes like mad in places with heavy access |
| 11:58:47 | preglow | at least on arm |
| 11:59:36 | amiconn | soap: I would think so, because the disk obviously cannot spin down when it's accessed continuously. |
| 11:59:54 | eightfold | soap: no size etched |
| 11:59:58 | amiconn | preglow: I know, that's the part I didn't uqestion. My concern was about readability |
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| 12:00:18 | preglow | amiconn: i think the readability matter can be seen to |
| 12:00:38 | eightfold | then so, it's first gen |
| 12:00:52 | preglow | i wonder how the compiler would handle template structs in places with just a single access |
| 12:00:58 | preglow | it might end up bigger if it's stupid |
| 12:01:34 | soap | amiconn, but in a typical "mounted as storage" situation a drive is not accessed continuously. I totally grok your comments regarding the charging justification for spindown, but isn't heat production and drive wear justification enough to spin down the drive? |
| 12:01:46 | * | gevaerts looks around to see if rbutil or ipodpatcher specialists are around |
| 12:02:16 | eightfold | the manual here says 2g |
| 12:02:17 | eightfold | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 12:02:31 | eightfold | in the file name: rockbox-ipodmini2g.pdf |
| 12:02:31 | * | Llorean saw an ipodpatcher expert make a statement about an hour and 20 ago. |
| 12:02:42 | eightfold | but it should apply to 1st gen too? |
| 12:03:18 | * | gevaerts saw that ipodpatcher expert leave 20 minutes after that... |
| 12:03:56 | Llorean | Which is unfortunate |
| 12:04:06 | Llorean | Because I'm pretty sure he's the only one really "expert" on the matter. |
| 12:04:35 | * | Llorean assumes the rbutil expert is expected to be one who's familiar with the ipodpatcher bits of the whole. |
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| 12:05:18 | preglow | amiconn: i kind of do think that having members be uppercase would fix the readability, after all, that's the only visual clue we currently have to spot these io registers |
| 12:05:28 | gevaerts | Depends. rbutil couldn't find www.rockbox.org in this case... |
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| 12:07:44 | Llorean | Well, at least I can confirm it finds rockbox.org fine for me. |
| 12:08:53 | gevaerts | eightfold: mini 1st and 2nd gen are very similar. |
| 12:09:35 | eightfold | gevaerts: ok, thanks |
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| 12:16:26 | eightfold | should i do this installation thingy in windows or os x? the rbutil verisons don't seem as fresh for os x. |
| 12:18:53 | gevaerts | eightfold: I think 1.0.4 is good enough, but I'm not entirely sure |
| 12:20:49 | gevaerts | Manoj`: maybe an older rbutilqt could work. Proxy and url handling changed a bit between 1.0.4 and 1.0.5. Otherwise I really have no idea |
| 12:21:48 | gevaerts | eightfold: on second thoughts, maybe 1.0.5 is the way to go for a full install... |
| 12:22:25 | Manoj` | gevaerts: I'll try 1.0.4 |
| 12:22:44 | Manoj` | the thing is, the commandlin stuff also failed |
| 12:22:52 | Manoj` | which I don't like |
| 12:23:08 | Manoj` | perhaps I should borrow a windws machine from somewhare and try that |
| 12:23:31 | Manoj` | At this point, I am just happy that my ipod is not a brick ... |
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| 12:30:03 | eightfold | ok, i just ran the "complete installation" in windows (rockbox utility 1.0.5) |
| 12:30:27 | eightfold | that should be it? must say you've done an excellent job with the installer |
| 12:30:31 | eightfold | ! |
| 12:30:55 | gevaerts | That should be it, yes |
| 12:31:21 | Manoj` | OK. I ran it in a 32bit chroot, and it can find the network |
| 12:31:26 | Manoj` | so it is a 64bit issue |
| 12:31:41 | Manoj` | [INFO] Scanning disk devices... |
| 12:31:43 | Manoj` | [INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sdf |
| 12:31:43 | eightfold | so, now i should jump to 2.4 in the manual (running rockbox) disconnect the device and press menu + select? |
| 12:31:55 | Manoj` | [INFO] Checksum OK in /tmp//qt_temp.X12588 |
| 12:31:56 | Manoj` | [ERR] Input file too big for buffer |
| 12:32:05 | eightfold | with select you mean the button without an icon in the middle (i've never used an ipod extensively before) |
| 12:33:32 | gevaerts | eightfold: yes |
| 12:33:46 | Manoj` | grrr. |
| 12:34:03 | pixelma | eightfold: there's a picture which explain the buttons at the top of section 3 |
| 12:35:45 | gevaerts | Manoj`: there's unfortunately not much we can do until the right people show up |
| 12:36:14 | eightfold | seems i hadn't turned off the ipod |
| 12:36:25 | eightfold | and held menu + select |
| 12:36:28 | Manoj` | gevaerts: I understand |
| 12:36:55 | eightfold | holding play means shutting off the player, right? |
| 12:36:56 | Manoj` | gevaerts: and believe me, I am grateful for the work the rockbox community has put together |
| 12:37:25 | Manoj` | but it is so frustrating ... so close, and yet −− :-) |
| 12:38:16 | Manoj` | It downloads the bootloader-ipodvideo,ipod file |
| 12:38:29 | Manoj` | the checksum is the same every time it downloads it |
| 12:38:41 | Manoj` | it is prbably trying to dd it to some place |
| 12:38:55 | eightfold | ok, holding the menu + select made the screen show the apple and flash. then it started the regular ipod firmware |
| 12:39:01 | eightfold | should i try again? |
| 12:39:27 | Manoj` | eightfold: that is the point when it should have started rockbox ... |
| 12:39:34 | eightfold | Manoj`: mmm |
| 12:39:39 | eightfold | obviously it didn't |
| 12:39:51 | eightfold | would it hurt trying again before doing anything special? |
| 12:40:11 | bertrik | hmmm, the build page is not updating it seems |
| 12:40:52 | eightfold | it seems i can't shut the player down |
| 12:41:05 | eightfold | and i didn't do that before holding menu + select the first time either |
| 12:41:09 | gevaerts | Manoj`: (starting on real guesswork now...) One thing you could try is first run ipodpatcher -d (delete the old bootloader). Maybe that will work, and clear everything up enough to make installation work |
| 12:41:17 | eightfold | holding play lights down the display |
| 12:41:31 | eightfold | but pressing menu makes the menu show up _instantly_ |
| 12:41:43 | eightfold | it shouldn't do that if is completely off, right? |
| 12:42:47 | Manoj` | gevaerts: I'll try. But this is 05:42am, I better get to bed |
| 12:42:55 | Manoj` | gevaerts: thanks |
| 12:43:45 | eightfold | should the startup of the mini be instant? |
| 12:43:49 | eightfold | if it's completely off? |
| 12:44:08 | eightfold | i press the menu button from what i believe is the "off state" and the menu shows up directly |
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| 12:46:03 | eightfold | pressing menu + select just lights up the screen and activates the menu |
| 12:46:59 | gevaerts | eightfold: the apple firmware never really shuts down. |
| 12:47:11 | eightfold | oh, i'm running rockbox now :) |
| 12:47:18 | gevaerts | ah, ok :) |
| 12:47:34 | eightfold | so happy i am right now :) |
| 12:47:58 | eightfold | big thank you to to the rockbox community! |
| 12:48:03 | gevaerts | to turn it off, you have to press play for a onger time (5 seconds or so) |
| 12:48:11 | gevaerts | It will tell you it's shutting down |
| 12:48:12 | eightfold | oki doke |
| 12:49:41 | eightfold | and now i should be able to to use it like a regular usb mass storage device? connecting to os x or windows and just move to it? |
| 12:51:07 | gevaerts | Well, if you plug it in, it will reboot to Emergency Disk Mode for usb mass storage (still working on native rockbox usb...), but yes, you just copy your files to anywhere you want on it |
| 12:51:36 | preglow | amiconn: hmm, assembler files can use defines, but not structs. i guess that's a negative side of the template structs as well |
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| 13:07:57 | eightfold | hey, i love this! enlightenment! rockbox is just wonderful! |
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| 13:29:28 | markun | eightfold: great to hear that you like it |
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| 13:35:33 | eightfold | i've heard mixed success reports of people changing their ipod mini hdds to larger flash based storage |
| 13:35:47 | eightfold | this mini seems to have only 2 gb |
| 13:35:51 | eightfold | which leaves me asking for more |
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| 13:54:32 | B4gder | did any gigabeat user try that austriancoder wm8751 commit? |
| 13:54:50 | B4gder | it seems so strange to me that it can just divide with 10 |
| 13:55:06 | * | petur wondered about that too |
| 13:55:32 | B4gder | and the if below the calculation just _have_ to be wrong now |
| 13:56:13 | Llorean | What is that the value of? I have a gigabeat on-hand and can test if I know what I should be looking for. |
| 13:56:22 | * | Llorean rarely, if ever, uses any sort of tone control |
| 13:57:00 | B4gder | used in bass and treble settings |
| 13:58:36 | markun | bass and trebble as in steps of 1.5dB |
| 13:58:50 | Llorean | So I should notice a different range in what I hear? |
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| 14:00:30 | Llorean | Yeah, +9 bass has almost no effect with current SVN rockbox |
| 14:01:34 | B4gder | yeah, as I read it the values should only be a 10th of what they used to be |
| 14:02:52 | Llorean | I'd assumed they would be from the diff, but I hadn't read through the whole file so had no clue where it's actually used, or if it relates to other changed files |
| 14:03:33 | preglow | those 1.5 db steps don't work right with rockbox right now |
| 14:03:46 | preglow | i think i did a patch that supported them. god knows what happened to it |
| 14:04:24 | Llorean | preglow: The 1.5 steps of bass/treble? |
| 14:04:28 | preglow | yeah |
| 14:04:34 | preglow | rockbox pretends the steps are 1 db |
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| 14:04:44 | Llorean | It calls them 1.5 in the menu |
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| 14:04:48 | preglow | really, now |
| 14:04:51 | preglow | then something has changed |
| 14:04:54 | Llorean | Yessir |
| 14:04:57 | Llorean | 0, 1.5, 3.0, etc |
| 14:05:04 | * | amiconn would just stick with 1dB steps, and then round, like we do for volume on Player |
| 14:05:18 | preglow | i wouldn't, it feels inaccurate for the user |
| 14:05:36 | Llorean | Bagder: Removing the /10 doesn't seem to have fixed the problem for me. |
| 14:06:02 | preglow | there will be no difference between settings for 1 and 2 db, for example |
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| 14:09:37 | amiconn | preglow: I know, but it's simple, and if you want to only expose the actual physical steps, it will become really nasty in the mentioned example |
| 14:10:00 | preglow | why? |
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| 14:10:21 | amiconn | ..because the DAC3550 goes in 1.5dB steps from +18 to -54 dB, and then in 3 dB steps down to -75 dB (-78 is mute) |
| 14:10:49 | preglow | true |
| 14:11:04 | amiconn | Now try to represent that in a generic way, including prescaling correction for treble/bass... |
| 14:11:23 | preglow | but when it's more consistent, like for wm codecs, i think perhaps we could use the native step |
| 14:11:30 | amiconn | Treble and bass are in 1 dB steps, so there's an inherent impreciseness anyway |
| 14:23:17 | pixelma | bertrik: late reply but it happens from time to time that the build script doesn't pick up a commit |
| 14:23:30 | pixelma | (for a next build round) |
| 14:24:01 | bertrik | Ok. Does it fix itself on the commit after that? |
| 14:24:27 | B4gder | yes, it is in svn so the next build will use that |
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| 14:38:10 | * | Llorean thinks austriancoder's latest commit should've been tested *first* rather than saying "looking for testers" in the commit message. :( |
| 14:38:23 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:40:14 | B4gder | at least when combined to a general absence and no other questions put in big letters somewhere where people can provide feedback to him |
| 14:40:46 | Llorean | Yeah, at the very least a note to the dev mailing list saying "guys, i've been working on this, but don't have the hardware to test this bit..." would've been nice. |
| 14:40:51 | * | Llorean thinks the -dev mailing list is underused. |
| 14:40:58 | B4gder | I agree |
| 14:41:20 | pixelma | he posted it to the tracker and asked for opinion on it yesterday |
| 14:41:32 | pixelma | not that it makes it much better |
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| 14:45:10 | kugel | Llorean: ping |
| 14:45:54 | Llorean | Here |
| 14:46:33 | kugel | Llorean: I really liked to tell you the precice status, but I can't since jott doesn't answer me. The only thing that I can tell is, that he gave me permission to include it into my build (and he was aware that I distribute it) |
| 14:48:20 | Llorean | But was he aware that doing so means it MUST be GPL licensed? |
| 14:48:29 | Llorean | As it stands, you have no explicit license for the code, just a "go ahead and use it"? |
| 14:49:08 | kugel | Llorean: He was aware of that too. Also, his font converter is GPL |
| 14:50:09 | Llorean | His other program being GPL doesn't say anything about this code. |
| 14:50:23 | Llorean | Why was chrisjs concerned it might not be GPL'ed? |
| 14:51:46 | kugel | Don't know, but probably since he never specifically said "my AA font patch is GPL" |
| 14:53:12 | Llorean | The problem is you can't really implicitly license code. |
| 14:53:43 | kugel | Is "no license" GPL compatible? |
| 14:53:50 | Llorean | Not in the slightest. |
| 14:53:56 | Llorean | "no license" means "all rights reserved" |
| 14:54:14 | Llorean | Right now you've got "some rights reserved." He gave you permission to use the code, but not explicitly to GPL it, which is pretty iffy. |
| 14:54:49 | markun | if it a patch against existing GPL code? |
| 14:54:56 | markun | if -> is |
| 14:55:09 | Llorean | markun: You can patch against GPL and still not GPL your patch, though. |
| 14:55:14 | Llorean | You just can't legally distribute it. |
| 14:55:22 | kugel | I must GPL his patch, if I include it. And he was aware of that |
| 14:55:23 | markun | how? by not distributing it? |
| 14:56:02 | Llorean | Or by distributing it illegally. GPL violations do happen quite a lot. |
| 14:57:45 | Llorean | kugel: Again though, you're assuming it's implicit. He may have meant it, but you don't have a license on the code, and really need to try to get in contact with him. |
| 14:58:05 | kugel | I try that for about 6 month now |
| 14:58:07 | Llorean | The act of including it does *not* GPL it. |
| 14:58:37 | markun | I've seen him here less than 6 months ago. Next time I'll ask him about it. |
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| 14:59:33 | Llorean | kugel: Did he code it from scratch? |
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| 15:01:26 | kugel | Llorean: Not sure |
| 15:01:57 | markun | kugel: do you remember his nick on IRC? |
| 15:02:13 | kugel | jott or j0tt |
| 15:02:21 | kugel | But jott most of the time |
| 15:02:24 | Llorean | kugel: These things are important. Where the code came from determines whether he even *can* license it GPL |
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| 15:03:12 | kugel | Llorean: I didn't ask him about if he did it from scratch. The comments doesn't tell anything like "based on xx algorithm" |
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| 15:04:08 | Llorean | Well it's pretty important to have your licensing clear. |
| 15:04:21 | Llorean | One might argue essential. |
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| 15:09:11 | kugel | Anyone know how to append an image to another? I'm making a theme and like to use bitmap strips |
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| 15:10:43 | B4gder | I'd assume "convert" from imagemagick can do it |
| 15:11:09 | markun | yes, it has various options to combine imgages, don't know which one he needs. |
| 15:11:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | I think GIMP can do that, too. |
| 15:12:22 | B4gder | command line is king ;-) |
| 15:13:23 | kugel | I know gimp can do it, but I searched for an simple and fast solution :P |
| 15:13:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Then B4gder hit it bang on the mark. :P |
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| 15:14:11 | kugel | B4gder: Thanks, that's it |
| 15:14:35 | kugel | convert -append vol* did almost work |
| 15:15:15 | kugel | it just appended vol0-vol10-vol1x-vol1-vol2 |
| 15:16:37 | gevaerts | kugel: composite -tile might also be helpful |
| 15:17:09 | kugel | gevaerts: thanks, but B4gder's way allready worked :P |
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| 15:18:11 | kugel | meh, it didn't |
| 15:19:28 | pixelma | if you're using imagemagick - montage is quite nice... |
| 15:20:25 | * | gevaerts agrees. montage was the one he was actually looking for |
| 15:21:25 | kugel | Is that a GUI for imagemagick? |
| 15:21:42 | pixelma | no |
| 15:22:24 | gevaerts | linuxstb: there are some ipodpatcher problems in the logs |
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| 15:27:20 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Thank you, kind sir... |
| 15:28:27 | kugel | I can't find montage..., google gives me a lot of results, but mainly those for the German word "Montage" |
| 15:28:57 | linuxstb | kugel: It comes installed as one of the imagemagick utilities. |
| 15:29:48 | kugel | oh |
| 15:30:34 | kugel | I see |
| 15:31:16 | linuxstb | amiconn: I assume you've had no luck solving the "UIE problem" ? |
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| 16:40:54 | markun | B4gder: shall I call the new patch rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3_2.diff ? |
| 16:42:01 | B4gder | works for me, the name isn't that important |
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| 16:49:05 | markun | B4gder: the meizu bootloader loads the flashed image to SDRAM and maps it to 0x0. Should make our first tests easy. |
| 16:49:25 | B4gder | great! |
| 16:50:32 | markun | I wrote some code which should toggle the backlight on and off when pressing PLAY. It should work on all M6 and M3 targets. |
| 16:50:42 | markun | But first I need to get it to work here of course :) |
| 16:51:06 | markun | let's try to have rockbox running before the devcon :) |
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| 17:07:21 | bertrik | Is there any specific reason we have an atoi.h? (it's normally part of stdlib AFAIK so could go perfectly well into stdlib.h) |
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| 17:18:38 | linuxstb | I thought we did? |
| 17:19:15 | linuxstb | firmware/include/atoi.h |
| 17:19:28 | linuxstb | Ah, you mean why we _do_ have it... |
| 17:19:54 | * | linuxstb should probably go home |
| 17:21:38 | linuxstb | Yes, moving it into stdlib.h sounds sensible to me. |
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| 17:23:36 | * | B4gder agrees |
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| 17:26:25 | linuxstb | bertrik: BTW, I've been thinking for a while that a #include cleanup is needed, so am happy you're doing something... |
| 17:27:58 | B4gder | yeps, nice spring cleaning! |
| 17:29:10 | bertrik | linuxstb, B4gder : thank you for your support :P |
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| 17:32:16 | markun | B4gder: I've added the patch to www/gcc but can't access it over http |
| 17:32:53 | markun | does it take some time? |
| 17:33:02 | bertrik | one particular file that nags me is plugin.h. It #includes lots of other includes but doesn't actually need them (plugin.c does). This often causes *all* plugins to be rebuilt when changing something trivial. |
| 17:33:08 | B4gder | markun: right, it doesn't update automatically - I fixed it now |
| 17:33:20 | markun | thanks |
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| 17:39:00 | markun | B4gder: ok, the arm toolchain should now be built with big-endian support |
| 17:39:13 | B4gder | I noticed |
| 17:39:28 | B4gder | configure changes coming up I presume? |
| 17:39:46 | markun | I'll leave that for the initial meizu commit |
| 17:39:52 | B4gder | ok |
| 17:40:17 | markun | after I've verified that the testcode runs |
| 17:42:16 | B4gder | gevaerts: had a chance to log any usb traffic on a meizu upgrade? |
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| 17:43:06 | gevaerts | B4gder: actually, I can do that later today |
| 17:43:29 | markun | B4gder: for the meizu m6sl we will also need a linux tool to combine our bootloader image with the nand loader image from samsung |
| 17:44:08 | B4gder | markun: hm, where do we get that name image from? |
| 17:44:13 | B4gder | from the unit itself? |
| 17:44:18 | B4gder | nand even |
| 17:44:38 | markun | no, it's supplied with the DFUManager from Samsung |
| 17:45:30 | B4gder | argh |
| 17:45:31 | markun | http://creatoom.free.fr/Meizu/DFUMANAGER.zip |
| 17:46:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: With your recent commit, does that mean we have to update our build environment or no? |
| 17:46:47 | B4gder | LambdaCalculus37: if you wanna build meizu rockbox, yes |
| 17:46:52 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: only if you want to compile a meizu build (in future) |
| 17:46:54 | B4gder | until then no |
| 17:47:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Ah, okay. |
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| 18:04:37 | markun | B4gder: do you have any idea why system.o doesn't get linked when UIE is only used in crt0.S? |
| 18:04:53 | gevaerts | markun: which dfu tool do you want me to trace ? |
| 18:07:23 | markun | http://www.meizume.com/miniplayer-m6-sl/5001-found-working-dfu-tool-m6sl.html |
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| 18:11:29 | B4gder | markun: I've only seen it discussed here, I haven't had time to check it out myself |
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| 18:20:00 | markun | gevaerts: will that work? |
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| 18:21:28 | gevaerts | markun: I'm not sure if it actually writes new firmware, but at least it sent data and the player reset at the end |
| 18:22:49 | * | gevaerts waits for the PC with tracer software to come back. It decided to reboot |
| 18:23:13 | markun | which firmware did you upload? |
| 18:23:50 | gevaerts | M6SL_V2.004.6_Meizu_En.rar |
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| 18:34:17 | Manoj` | hi folks. Any ipodpatcher/rbutilqt folks around? are seg-faults on amd64 machines a known issue? |
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| 18:35:24 | * | gevaerts points to domonoky |
| 18:35:53 | * | domonoky looks around... turns to the logs.. :-) |
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| 18:36:13 | gevaerts | domonoky: last line before you joined :) |
| 18:36:22 | Manoj` | __> ./ipodpatcher −−list :: Image 1: Main firmware - 11720704 bytes; Third-party bootloader - 52796 bytes |
| 18:36:22 | Manoj` | |
| 18:36:28 | Manoj` | [INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sdf |
| 18:36:54 | Manoj` | [INFO] Using internal bootloader - 50136 bytes |
| 18:36:54 | Manoj` | Segmentation fault |
| 18:36:57 | * | desowin suggests alwasys attach backtrace to any segfault report |
| 18:37:01 | desowin | as segfault != other segfault |
| 18:37:15 | * | domonoky thinks, yes there are known problems with ipodpatcher on amd64.. |
| 18:37:17 | Manoj` | I get this using either the 64bit ipodpatcher; or the 32bit one running in a 32bit chroot |
| 18:37:39 | domonoky | i think you have to run it with "linux32 ./ipodpatcher" |
| 18:38:24 | Manoj` | the 32bit version? |
| 18:38:30 | domonoky | jup |
| 18:38:44 | domonoky | but i am not sure, as i use windows.. :-) |
| 18:40:41 | bluebrother | don't we have a 64bit binary? |
| 18:41:04 | Manoj` | http://paste.debian.net/1751/ |
| 18:41:09 | Manoj` | bluebrother: we do |
| 18:41:17 | Manoj` | bluebrother: same segfault |
| 18:42:10 | Manoj` | The strace is identical |
| 18:42:29 | bluebrother | looks like strace? |
| 18:42:34 | Manoj` | I can put up the full strace on a web server if that would be useful |
| 18:43:05 | Manoj` | The tail end can be seen at http://paste.debian.net/1751/ |
| 18:43:18 | bluebrother | can you backtrace it using gdb? Or are the binaries stripped? |
| 18:43:42 | Manoj` | They are stripped |
| 18:43:50 | Manoj` | ipodpatcher: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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| 18:44:22 | bluebrother | hmm. I guess a backtrace wouldn't tell much in that case. Can you build yourself? |
| 18:45:15 | Manoj` | I suppose I can, unless it needs cross compilation for bits |
| 18:45:18 | markun | how can I put some .word values in crt0.S which will end up at the very end of the image? |
| 18:45:34 | bluebrother | no, you don't need a cross compiler. |
| 18:46:18 | bluebrother | get rbutil/ipodpatcher from svn. Building should be as simple as calling make |
| 18:46:48 | Manoj` | bluebrother: ok. |
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| 18:53:00 | amiconn | Does someone intend to fix the austriancoder's audio mess soon(ish)? Should it perhaps be reverted? |
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| 18:54:18 | amiconn | markun: If you need to make sure these words are always last, you need to introduce a separate section, and use the linker script to put it last |
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| 18:54:50 | * | amiconn wonders what that could be necessary for though |
| 18:56:00 | Manoj` | Hmm. perhaps I should not use git-svn |
| 18:58:18 | bluebrother | for getting just ipodpatcher it might be easier to pull it directly ;-) |
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| 18:58:45 | Manoj` | I'm just pulling trunk/rbutil |
| 18:58:58 | Manoj` | I would like to help resolve the rbutil segfault too |
| 18:59:11 | * | bluebrother goes checking the log |
| 18:59:50 | domonoky | Manoj`: rbutil just uses ipodpatcher, so if the segfault in ipodpatcher is fixed, rbutil should also work (if its the same problem) .. |
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| 19:00:03 | n1s | festival is the speech engine used for the voice files we provide, right? |
| 19:00:10 | Manoj` | ok. I'll see what I can do |
| 19:01:18 | Nico_P | bertrik: nice commits :) |
| 19:01:31 | Nico_P | I'm all for the plugin.h cleanup you mentioned too |
| 19:02:25 | bertrik | Nico_P: yeah, I hate it to see all plugins recompile (especially DOOM) |
| 19:02:46 | Nico_P | same here (although I usually use make bin because of that) |
| 19:03:24 | * | bertrik etches mental note about 'make bin' in brain |
| 19:03:46 | Manoj` | fat32format.c: In function 'format_partition': fat32format.c:465: warning: format `%llu' expects type 'long long unsigned int', but argument 3 has type 'long unsigned int' |
| 19:03:55 | Manoj` | not an error, but ... |
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| 19:04:22 | Nico_P | Manoj`: %lu |
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| 19:05:21 | * | amiconn checks the log to find out what bertrik is plaiing to rework |
| 19:05:41 | * | linuxstb spots lots of unsigned longs in ipodpatcher... |
| 19:06:49 | Nico_P | amiconn: removing most of the includes in plugin.h, as they're useless |
| 19:07:01 | * | n1s is happy as long as noone assumes sizeof(long)==sizeof(int)==sizeof(*int) |
| 19:07:15 | amiconn | linuxstb: No, I wasn't able to solve the UIE() problem yet. It's really strange, all symbols are defined as they should be, yet the linker doesn't pick system.o |
| 19:07:23 | linuxstb | Manoj`: The obvious thing to fix, is to change "unsigned long" to "uint32_t" and "long" to "int32_t" |
| 19:08:07 | amiconn | Nico_P: Why are they useless? Many of them are rather useful... |
| 19:08:08 | * | linuxstb should have known better than to use longs, but it was about 2.5 years ago... |
| 19:09:00 | Nico_P | amiconn: plugin.h doesn't need to have access to the prototypes of the functions you want to add to the plugin API, does it? |
| 19:09:04 | amiconn | Plugins aren't allowed to include anything from the core except plugin.h, so plugin.h should provide everything that's generally defined |
| 19:09:34 | Manoj` | linuxstb: I can do that. Also, the pre-build ipodpatcher seems to already have an internal bootloader, the svn version does not |
| 19:09:45 | amiconn | And there is a whole bunch of inline functions and macros which are needed in plugins |
| 19:09:59 | Nico_P | true |
| 19:10:03 | Nico_P | data structures too |
| 19:10:10 | amiconn | yup |
| 19:10:12 | bertrik | amiconn: yes, I see not that it's not that bad, but there are some header files in plugin.h that do not provide anything useful at all, except for an annoying dependency |
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| 19:10:30 | bertrik | (remove first not) |
| 19:10:50 | amiconn | bertrik: In fact I'm not annoyed by a few extra dependencies, but I'm *very* annoyed about missing dependencies |
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| 19:11:15 | domonoky | Manoj`: yes, you can build ipodpatcher with and without internal bootloader ( the bootloaders are also on download.rockbox.org) |
| 19:11:22 | linuxstb | Manoj`: If you read the instructions in the Makefile, that tells you how to build ipodpatcher with the embedded bootloaders (there is one for each ipod model) |
| 19:11:43 | amiconn | Like the codecs not relinking if a codec lib changed... and then wondering why nothing changes when testing.... |
| 19:12:53 | linuxstb | shotofadds: Ping... |
| 19:13:12 | n1s | where am i supposed to add speech engine specific tweaks? |
| 19:13:30 | bertrik | amiconn: ok, can I do something about that? |
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| 19:14:01 | n1s | bertrik: you get beer if you fix that one! :) |
| 19:14:01 | domonoky | n1s: speech engine specific tweaks for what ? |
| 19:14:18 | amiconn | bertrik: If I would know the solution, I would already have fixed it.... |
| 19:14:38 | n1s | domonoky: pronunciation of words that the engine gets wrong... |
| 19:14:48 | bertrik | amiconn: probably something in the Makefiles? |
| 19:15:10 | amiconn | n1s: voice.pl:correct_string() |
| 19:15:18 | n1s | ah, thanks |
| 19:16:17 | domonoky | that reminds me, that i should add pronunciation correction into rbutil.. :-) |
| 19:16:27 | amiconn | It's supposed to be broken down by language->TTS->voice vendor |
| 19:17:50 | n1s | amiconn: yes, the problem is that festival pronounces 'a' as the word a when trying to spell (is sounds like a very short ö |
| 19:18:07 | amiconn | Yes, try to quote it |
| 19:18:50 | amiconn | This helped for several sapi voices (but for an unknown reason isn't necessary anymore) |
| 19:19:40 | n1s | doesn't seem to make a difference when trying directly in festival from the command line, "Ay" works pretty well though |
| 19:20:21 | amiconn | You probably spotted the ploogin protection in that function ;) |
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| 19:21:19 | n1s | yes but now i wonder how to match "A" but nothing else, my sed-fu isn't that great |
| 19:21:37 | amiconn | This is plain regex |
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| 19:22:22 | amiconn | You want an a that has no letter before or after, so it should be s/\ba\b/ay/ig |
| 19:22:43 | amiconn | (matches small and capital letter a) |
| 19:22:51 | n1s | thanks, I'm basically regex illiterate :) |
| 19:23:03 | amiconn | www.regular-expressions.info |
| 19:23:50 | Manoj` | #0 0x00002b8f38c06e6b in memcpy () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 19:23:50 | Manoj` | #1 0x000000000040344f in add_bootloader () |
| 19:23:50 | Manoj` | #2 0x0000000000402077 in main () |
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| 19:27:12 | domonoky | Manoj`: is it also segfaulting if you try an external bootloader ? |
| 19:28:31 | Manoj` | ./ipodpatcher -a bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 19:28:40 | Manoj` | [INFO] Ipod model: Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") |
| 19:28:40 | Manoj` | [INFO] Checksum OK in bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 19:28:40 | Manoj` | [ERR] Input file too big for buffer |
| 19:28:40 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Manoj` |
| 19:28:40 | Manoj` | [ERR] −−add-bootloader failed. |
| 19:29:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 19:29:14 | * | Buschel asked a collegue to build up a iPod dock connector debug-board |
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| 19:29:34 | Buschel | hopefully this will help finding a proper solution for the accessory detect |
| 19:30:04 | Buschel | we've got lots of connector cables in our company, so mis-using one of them should be ok ;o) |
| 19:30:57 | Buschel | also dip switches for changing the resistor coding will be part of it |
| 19:30:59 | Manoj` | when I run gdb, it says it is looking for a file called init.c |
| 19:31:29 | Manoj` | I have no idea where it is getting init.c from |
| 19:31:39 | Manoj` | but I can't list the source lines |
| 19:32:24 | domonoky | hm Inputfile to big for buffer is strange, your bootloader is surely smaller than 8MB, i think.. |
| 19:32:50 | Manoj` | __> ls -als bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 19:32:50 | Manoj` | 56 -rw-r−−r−− 1 root srivasta 50528 2007-05-23 13:19 bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 19:36:38 | domonoky | are "int"s also different on amd64 ? |
| 19:36:54 | Manoj` | an int is 64bit |
| 19:38:22 | linuxstb | I thought ints were 32-bit, and longs/pointers were 64-bit? |
| 19:39:18 | n1s | linuxstb: correct |
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| 19:40:05 | weeandykidd | hello |
| 19:40:13 | weeandykidd | hello? |
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| 19:40:31 | DerPapst | o/ |
| 19:40:37 | BigBambi | weeandykidd: If you have a question, just ask it |
| 19:40:50 | weeandykidd | i need help on how to add optoins to the open with menu |
| 19:41:00 | n1s | amiconn: that didn't seem to work, I assume the /i means it's case insensitive? |
| 19:41:31 | linuxstb | weeandykidd: What exactly do you want to do? |
| 19:41:53 | weeandykidd | can you get idarcnes in the rockbox OS |
| 19:42:23 | BigBambi | Is that a NES emulator? |
| 19:42:27 | weeandykidd | yes |
| 19:42:35 | BigBambi | If so, the answer is theoretically yes, if you port it |
| 19:42:51 | BigBambi | You cannot just 'install' it though |
| 19:43:40 | weeandykidd | iyes but when i set it up the rockbox doesnt know what to open the roms with, so i hold the center button selct open with but the emulator isnt there |
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| 19:43:58 | BigBambi | I didn't really understand that question |
| 19:44:02 | linuxstb | weeandykidd: You're right, it's not there... |
| 19:44:18 | BigBambi | But as Rockbox does not contain a NES emulator, of course you can't open a ROM with it |
| 19:44:33 | weeandykidd | i have placed one on it |
| 19:44:37 | BigBambi | how? |
| 19:44:56 | BigBambi | You changed the code to work with Rockbox (porting it), then you compiled rockbox? |
| 19:45:01 | * | BigBambi thinks not |
| 19:45:07 | weeandykidd | is there anyway to add entries to the open with menu; thats all i really want to know |
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| 19:45:29 | BigBambi | Why? You have not added the NES emulator, I am sure |
| 19:45:32 | DerPapst | weeandykidd: yes. if you know how to program with c |
| 19:45:55 | linuxstb | weeandykidd: You edit the .rockbox/viewers.config file to point to the ".rock" file (Rockbox plugin) that will open the file. |
| 19:46:07 | Manoj` | I stand corrected. The size of int is: 4 |
| 19:46:18 | weeandykidd | mild experiennce. ill work at it now then. just wanted to know if i was wasting my time |
| 19:46:22 | weeandykidd | bye |
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| 19:47:14 | * | linuxstb scratches head |
| 19:47:55 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wonders why kids keep coming in asking about emulators for Rockbox |
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| 19:49:29 | domonoky | Manoj`: you could add some printfs to add_bootloader, to findout what goes wrong..(like checking entryOffset and padded lenght, to see if they are sane) but i dont really know where it could go wrong, or if even more is broken.. |
| 19:50:59 | Manoj` | memcpy(sectorbuf+entryOffset,ipod->bootloader,ipod->bootloader_len); |
| 19:51:36 | Manoj` | I think that is where thigs die. |
| 19:51:51 | domonoky | yes, there is the segfault for sure.. |
| 19:52:40 | Manoj` | fprintf(stderr,"[INFO] Using internal bootloader - %d bytes\n",ipod->bootloader_len); |
| 19:52:40 | Manoj` | memcpy(sectorbuf+entryOffset,ipod->bootloader,ipod->bootloader_len); |
| 19:52:40 | Manoj` | fprintf(stderr,"[INFO] Done\n"); |
| 19:52:41 | domonoky | you could printout entryOffset and ipod->bootloader_len before to see if the look right.. |
| 19:52:48 | Manoj` | [INFO] Using internal bootloader - 50520 bytes |
| 19:52:48 | Manoj` | Segmentation fault |
| 19:53:13 | Manoj` | so ipod->bootloader_len == 50520 bytes |
| 19:53:19 | domonoky | so it looks like entryOffset is wrong.. then len is sane.. |
| 19:54:32 | Manoj` | [INFO] Offset - 11720704 bytes |
| 19:54:44 | Manoj` | umm, what? |
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| 19:55:06 | amiconn | n1s: yes |
| 19:55:15 | Manoj` | That looks a bit high |
| 19:55:39 | domonoky | jup, thats surely wrong.. |
| 19:55:49 | n1s | amiconn: in pearl does matching one case make it ignore the rest? |
| 19:56:23 | Manoj` | So, perhaps my main firmware got hosed? |
| 19:56:27 | Manoj` | using −−list: |
| 19:56:29 | Manoj` | Image 1: |
| 19:56:29 | Manoj` | Main firmware - 11720704 bytes |
| 19:56:29 | Manoj` | Third-party bootloader - 52796 bytes |
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| 19:57:20 | domonoky | linuxstb: does this sound right ?, i dont have too much knowledge of ipods.. |
| 19:57:53 | shotofadds | linuxstb: if it's about UIE, I don't know the answer. I don't recall having to do any magic for the D2 build. |
| 19:58:36 | linuxstb | domonoky: Yes, it sounds about right, although 11MB seems a bit large... |
| 19:58:42 | domonoky | but the entryOffset can only be wrong, as sectorBuf only has 8MB space, and you go to offset 11MB... |
| 19:59:28 | linuxstb | shotofadds: No, it was actually about your interrupt handler, but I found the answer (I thought you were doing something wrong, but it turns out the tcc780x's interrupt controller can do a lot more than the tcc77x's). |
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| 20:00:18 | shotofadds | yeah, the 78x interrupt controller is quite fully featured... |
| 20:00:55 | * | n1s found the answer and it's "yes", no wonder my change didn't work :) |
| 20:02:23 | amiconn | n1s: Well, you're applying the regexps in sequence, so all should match their respective patterns |
| 20:03:31 | n1s | amiconn: the regexp wasn't the problem, it was me assuming a switch worked like in c (for some reason...) |
| 20:03:46 | amiconn | Ah |
| 20:03:51 | Manoj` | I seem to have created backups a long time ago: apple_os.bin apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin bootloader-video.bin bootpartition.bin mbr.bin ... |
| 20:05:46 | n1s | works nicely now :) |
| 20:06:35 | Manoj` | I have, unfortunately, forgotten how to restore these backup versions of the apple OS software |
| 20:06:35 | domonoky | Manoj`: do you have access to a 32bit machine to test if it is your ipod and not the 64bit OS ? |
| 20:06:53 | Manoj` | Unfortunately, no |
| 20:07:08 | linuxstb | Manoj`: You just do "dd if=bootpartition.bin of=/dev/sdX1" |
| 20:07:12 | Manoj` | I know there is something wrong with the ipod |
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| 20:07:41 | Manoj` | I can no longer boot into orckbox, so I am willing to trust that something got messed up |
| 20:07:47 | Manoj` | on the ipod, I mean |
| 20:08:18 | linuxstb | amiconn: Do you know if ipodpatcher ever worked on amd64? i.e. did you use it? |
| 20:08:21 | Manoj` | I can do the dd |
| 20:08:25 | domonoky | linuxstb: if it is his ipod, we surely should add a check for (sectorbuf+entryOffset < BUFFSIZE) before the first memcpy in add_bootloader |
| 20:08:33 | Manoj` | What are the other bits I saved? |
| 20:08:58 | Manoj` | the apple_os.bin, etc? |
| 20:09:16 | domonoky | the extracted apple_os (two files) .. |
| 20:12:24 | amiconn | linuxstb: I think I tried it once, but I'm not sure |
| 20:15:18 | * | amiconn renews his question |
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| 20:24:56 | Manoj` | Success. I dd'd the bootpartition.bin over, and then ipodpatcher did work. |
| 20:26:05 | gevaerts | great :) |
| 20:26:27 | bluebrother | ok, so the question remains: will the prebuilt binary work? |
| 20:27:31 | Manoj` | Oh. I dunno. This version I am using has all the long int's and unsigned long's converted to u?int32_t |
| 20:27:54 | gevaerts | markun: the tracer software works with wine (at least for viewing files) |
| 20:28:53 | Manoj` | The proper offset was 6477824; btw |
| 20:30:26 | domonoky | 6MB + 50k surely fit into 8Mb buffer... linuxstb could you please put a safety check before the memcopy in add_bootloader :-) |
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| 21:03:47 | Manoj` | gevaerts, domonoky: Thanks for your help. With the restoration of the bootpartition, everything seems to be working, and now the major decision is which theme to use |
| 21:04:20 | domonoky | Manoj`: good to hear :-) |
| 21:04:33 | gevaerts | That's a hard decision to make :) |
| 21:04:59 | Manoj` | arboxWidgets vs. phkOSC |
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| 21:05:56 | Manoj` | I am surprised that no one has packaged the tbutil for the linux distributions |
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| 21:07:13 | bluebrother | there is a contributed ebuild file in the wiki |
| 21:07:31 | * | gevaerts guesses that Manoj` doesn't care about ebuilds ;) |
| 21:07:57 | domonoky | Manoj`: feel free to help out.. :-) |
| 21:07:59 | * | bluebrother could create a rpm file but hasn't gotten around actually doing it. |
| 21:09:03 | bluebrother | maybe we should create tarballs of release versions |
| 21:09:13 | bluebrother | would at least make that easier. |
| 21:10:31 | * | amiconn renews his question regarding austriancoder's audio stuff once more |
| 21:12:53 | markun | amiconn: thanks for your reply about the linker section |
| 21:13:12 | markun | and no, I don't plan to fix any audio code |
| 21:14:22 | * | gevaerts also doesn't plan to work on the audio code. No sense in making it worse... |
| 21:15:11 | bertrik | viewport.h contains some #defines like VP_SELECTIONCOLORS which are not used anywhere |
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| 21:17:06 | linuxstb | bertrik: I know JDGordon was working on various viewport-related things, and only some have been committed, so maybe they are left from that... |
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| 21:18:37 | bertrik | ok, I'll leave those alone until I speak to him again |
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| 21:23:24 | Manoj` | domonoky: I'll put rbutil/ipodpatcher on my list of TODO things for Debian (I need to get SELinux in shape first, though) |
| 21:23:34 | Manoj` | Thanks for a useful tool |
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| 23:36:34 | Bagder | austriancoder: your commit seems to not work on the gigabeat |
| 23:37:59 | austriancoder | Bagder: define... "seems not to work" please |
| 23:38:06 | Bagder | see log |
| 23:38:10 | Bagder | I don't have a gigabeat |
| 23:39:21 | Bagder | I just read the patch, thought it looked weird and people confirmed it seems to not work |
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| 23:39:53 | austriancoder | Bagder: okay found it.. will try to fix it |
| 23:40:08 | Bagder | great |
| 23:41:16 | amiconn | austriancoder: I think that things changing behaviour on many targets like your audio stuff needs testing on the affected targets before commit. |
| 23:41:47 | amiconn | This is not that much an issue with new stuff, but the audio settings were working properly before |
| 23:42:33 | amiconn | bertrik_: The atoi.h was most probably from before we even had stdlib.h |
| 23:42:38 | austriancoder | amiconn: next time i will testers test my patch, if i do changes like the wm8751 change |
| 23:43:38 | bertrik_ | amiconn: I decided not to change plugin.h by the way, it didn't really contain any unused header files |
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| 23:51:48 | austriancoder | any gigabeat user online? |
| 23:52:28 | DerPapst | iirc gevaerts and markun have one |
| 23:52:34 | * | gevaerts waves |
| 23:53:23 | austriancoder | gevaerts: fine... can i send you in some minutes a patch to test? |
| 23:54:13 | DerPapst | the devcon dap list should be taken and put on a separate wiki page so people know whom to annoy if they need a tester :-P |
| 23:54:31 | gevaerts | austriancoder: sure, but be aware that I don't have very good ears :) |
| 23:55:06 | gevaerts | DerPapst: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxTesting |
| 23:55:21 | * | bertrik was going to mention that |
| 23:55:27 | DerPapst | wow, gevaerts... good work |
| 23:55:33 | gevaerts | :) |
| 23:55:35 | DerPapst | in such a short time :-P |
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| 23:56:35 | * | DerPapst fills a gap |
| 23:57:20 | bertrik | how about using a stub for function ata_disk_is_active in stubs.c instead of using #ifdef SIMULATOR? |
| 23:57:20 | austriancoder | gevaerts: please test volume and bass settings |
| 23:57:31 | gevaerts | OK |
| 23:57:38 | ^Parrot^ | evening. does the latest build have AA support, bmp resize built into it? |
| 23:57:54 | gevaerts | austriancoder: What should I test for ? Identical behaviour as older builds ? |
| 23:58:12 | PaulJam | AA yes, resizing no. |
| 23:58:16 | austriancoder | gevaerts: yes.. |
| 23:58:29 | ^Parrot^ | how about scrolling? |
| 23:58:57 | ^Parrot^ | I keep seeing themes that require these patches |
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