00:00:16 | n1s | BigBambi: you can do it somewhere at least but i don't remember... |
00:00:21 | amiconn | BigBambi: Using a _PRE macro should fix that problem |
00:01:05 | BigBambi | amiconn: So what would that line look like? If I have #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL BUTTON_PLAY and I want autoscroll to happen only when play isn't used in a combo? |
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00:01:38 | amiconn | First, you need to check whether another target already uses VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE |
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00:02:07 | amiconn | If this is not the case, you need to add the code to handle it |
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00:02:23 | BigBambi | aha, the ondio does |
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00:02:39 | BigBambi | so just do #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE BUTTON_PLAY |
00:02:39 | amiconn | Then you would set #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE BUTTON_PLAY and #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL (BUTTON_PLAY|BUTTON_REL) |
00:02:49 | BigBambi | amiconn: awesome, thanks |
00:02:58 | BigBambi | yes, I see it in the ondio one |
00:03:03 | BigBambi | thanks very much |
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00:11:51 | n1s | right, gcc3.4 ices in a couple of places when building with profiling :) |
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00:12:42 | BigBambi | Bagder: do you think it is too early to add the S as a target to flyspray? |
00:13:09 | BigBambi | If anyone would like to look at a quick add missing buttons for text viewer on the S: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9004 |
00:13:10 | saratoga | the addresses generated by the profiler on arm look like garbage anyway |
00:14:46 | saratoga | interstingly, it claims two functions use 80% of total ticks, though i dont know which they are |
00:17:51 | n1s | saratoga: which codec? |
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00:18:06 | saratoga | n1s: still mp3 |
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00:18:47 | n1s | i'm testing vorbis on my h320 now |
00:19:13 | saratoga | hope it works better on coldfire |
00:23:14 | toffe82 | I have init complete and file not found after install the nk.bin on the S ? |
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00:23:37 | BigBambi | toffe82: Yes, that seems to happen sometimes for an unknown reason |
00:23:42 | n1s | toffe82: in the rockbox bootloader? |
00:23:55 | toffe82 | yes |
00:24:04 | toffe82 | and the system reboot |
00:24:09 | toffe82 | last svn |
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00:24:43 | toffe82 | I try again |
00:25:07 | linuxstb | toffe82: I experienced that once. I did a full recovery and reinstall of the OF, then a reinstall of Rockbox, and it worked... |
00:25:36 | toffe82 | ok |
00:25:41 | toffe82 | I try that |
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00:27:01 | Xqtftqx | Hey guys, does video output on the beast work yet? |
00:27:09 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: no |
00:27:22 | Xqtftqx | Thats what i though, does any target support video out? |
00:27:48 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: Not yet, no |
00:27:57 | Xqtftqx | Alright, thanks |
00:28:05 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: Did you see I put a patch on the tracker for the text viewer |
00:28:17 | n1s | saratoga: seems to work ok on coldfire |
00:28:20 | Xqtftqx | No i didnt, ill go look now |
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00:28:54 | Xqtftqx | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2648 is that it? |
00:29:15 | BigBambi | no... What is the date on that one! |
00:29:31 | Xqtftqx | idk, thats the only once for text viewer i see |
00:29:40 | BigBambi | .... |
00:29:43 | BigBambi | 9004 |
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00:29:48 | linuxstb | Has anyone seen our two "new" students recently? Reading the SoC timeline, this is the "community bonding period" before coding starts on 26 May... |
00:29:59 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: You really should try reading things |
00:30:08 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: The one you linked was from 2005 |
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00:30:27 | Xqtftqx | ... |
00:30:35 | Xqtftqx | BigBambi: Whats the link? |
00:30:43 | BigBambi | I told you - 9004 |
00:30:52 | Xqtftqx | Oh sorry |
00:31:40 | Xqtftqx | Thanks BigBambi |
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00:32:50 | Xqtftqx | Hey BigBambi If i compile this can i just override the .rock file in the viewers folder and not reinstall rockbox totaly |
00:32:57 | Buschel | good night |
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00:33:10 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: you need to compile everything |
00:33:21 | Xqtftqx | I understand |
00:33:23 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: But yes, you can just copy over the new .rock |
00:33:32 | Xqtftqx | Alrighty |
00:33:58 | Xqtftqx | BigBambi to save me the time can you send me the rock? or no... |
00:34:19 | BigBambi | yes, hang on |
00:34:35 | Xqtftqx | Thanks, i dont want to download the Wmware thing on this laptop |
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00:36:30 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: http://aeparker.com/files/viewer.rock |
00:37:17 | Xqtftqx | Thanks |
00:38:50 | Xqtftqx | Xqtftqx is having trouble downloading |
00:38:59 | Xqtftqx | nvm i got it |
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00:45:45 | Xqtftqx | BigBambi, i cant open any text files, i get "INcompatible Version" |
00:45:59 | BigBambi | then you need to update the whole build |
00:46:15 | Xqtftqx | Dang |
00:46:48 | Xqtftqx | Im just gonna grab the viewer.rock form build |
00:47:04 | Xqtftqx | I dont need line up and down now, ill do it later |
00:49:50 | Xqtftqx | grrrr, even old one doesnt work |
00:50:23 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: If you update to latest SVN the one I sent should work |
00:50:54 | Xqtftqx | Alright ill try, whats the link again? Sorry i lost it |
00:51:03 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: Look in the IRC logs |
00:51:18 | Xqtftqx | Ok.... |
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00:52:13 | Xqtftqx | I have to go guys gettin something to eat |
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00:56:50 | Xqtftqx | BigBambi i cant find it in the logs, |
00:57:01 | Xqtftqx | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080517 , its not in there |
00:57:36 | BigBambi | Xqtftqx: That is yeserday only |
00:57:48 | Xqtftqx | oh, wheres today's |
00:58:08 | Xqtftqx | Nevermind i found it |
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01:05:32 | n1s | about 50% of the ticks spent in tremor are in mdct... (however the profiler deinlines functions and that makes them drop into dram) |
01:08:08 | kugel | Is the tracker down or something? |
01:08:24 | kugel | ah, ok, working again |
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01:19:11 | toffe82 | some problem on a s30 and a s60 ??? |
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01:20:17 | toffe82 | the of formware boot ok with the lock on, and when booting rockbox , file not found ?? |
01:20:32 | toffe82 | firmware ^^ |
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01:47:53 | toffe82 | USB problem on the s30, the usb works only to update the firmware after it doesn't work, even in the OF |
01:48:16 | BigBambi | toffe82: Could you rephrase, I didn't quite understand |
01:48:38 | toffe82 | this S30 has a problem with the usb |
01:48:48 | BigBambi | That one specifically? |
01:48:55 | toffe82 | I can only update the firmware |
01:49:09 | toffe82 | when I am on the OF , it didn;t connect |
01:49:18 | toffe82 | the s60 is working now |
01:49:33 | BigBambi | Rockbox USB shouldn't affect the OF though |
01:49:40 | toffe82 | yes |
01:49:55 | toffe82 | but even without rockbox, it doesn't work |
01:50:04 | BigBambi | ah, gotcha |
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01:51:10 | toffe82 | but it is strange , what is the difference in the management of the usb when you update adn after ? I have to send it to gevaerts or Bertrik :) |
01:51:26 | BigBambi | linux or windows? |
01:51:46 | toffe82 | windows, linux from the virtual machine is the same |
01:53:59 | toffe82 | and I don't think I have another board to replace it :( or perhaps I load direct to the hard drive :) |
01:54:09 | toffe82 | but no usb |
01:54:18 | BigBambi | :/ |
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02:19:46 | x0rg62 | hello |
02:20:02 | x0rg62 | is the archos 104 supported by rockbox ? |
02:22:59 | BigBambi | nope |
02:23:12 | BigBambi | Only the players listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org |
02:23:33 | x0rg62 | :( ok |
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02:35:37 | jpt1 | hey. |
02:35:55 | jpt1 | does anyone know any good HDD-based rockboxable players that are reasonably easy to obtain? |
02:36:06 | jpt1 | (preferably non-iPod) |
02:38:58 | BigBambi | depends what you want |
02:39:09 | BigBambi | Check www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
02:39:21 | BigBambi | but all are now discontinued |
02:39:35 | jpt1 | any progress on newer devices? |
02:39:42 | BigBambi | If you don't want radio/recording, gigabeat F in my view |
02:39:48 | jpt1 | I have a Sansa e250R, and I absolutely love it, but I'd love to have more space on it. |
02:39:54 | BigBambi | If you do want radio and esp. recording, iriver H100 |
02:39:54 | jpt1 | (for radio shows and audiobooks, mostly.) |
02:40:38 | BigBambi | The gigabeat F often crops up cheap on ebay |
02:40:53 | JdGordon | jpt1: get a 6/8gb microsd for it if thats enough |
02:40:59 | jpt1 | not really... |
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02:41:20 | jpt1 | well, I'd probably have to end up getting multiple cards, and then I'd have to juggle them and get a case that holds them... |
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03:15:12 | Biiaru | Is there a program that can be used to simulate what a .wps would look like without having to put it on the player yet? That'd make creating and testing them a lot easier. |
03:16:09 | JdGordon | rasher.dk/rockbox has prebuilt simulators for all targets |
03:16:38 | Biiaru | thanks :) |
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03:19:47 | Biiaru | I just have to get Darwine working again... |
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03:28:54 | Biiaru | ugh, it's not working in darwine. |
03:29:14 | Biiaru | guess i have to try parallels... *shudder* |
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03:33:15 | krazykit | Biiaru, or just build an OSX simulator. |
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03:36:19 | Biiaru | krazykit: I have no idea how I would go about doing that anyway. |
03:36:27 | JdGordon | apparently the osx sim wont start, but i havnt had time to investigate |
03:36:58 | JdGordon | Biiaru: you need xcode and sdl installed |
03:37:20 | Biiaru | Well, I have XCode installed. Not so sure about libSDL. |
03:37:34 | Biiaru | I might... it's been a long time since I've had to compile anything that used SDL. |
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04:15:47 | kugel | ok, can some explain that build error? |
04:15:49 | kugel | /path/to/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/HTML_Parser.o: In function `html_parse': |
04:15:51 | kugel | HTML_Parser.c:(.text+0x48c): undefined reference to `memcpy' |
04:17:09 | kugel | simulator works |
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04:23:16 | linuxstb | kugel: Add "MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPER(rb);" to the top of HTML_Parser.c - after the line static const struct plugin_api* rb; |
04:23:17 | jhMikeS | kugel: iiuc gcc uses it internally sometimes |
04:23:56 | kugel | I used sizeof(), can that be related? |
04:25:25 | kugel | guess not, other plugins use that too |
04:25:29 | linuxstb | I think the most common cause is where you have initialised local variables - gcc will use memcpy to copy it onto the stack |
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04:27:41 | jhMikeS | nutty idea #9999: The plugin API pointer should be in the plugin header and be initialized by the loader instead of passed as a param then it's initialized before ever running it |
04:29:03 | kugel | Guys, that didn't help |
04:29:46 | kugel | Now I get additionally this: http://pastebin.ca/1021539 |
04:30:50 | jhMikeS | struct plugin_api* rb; MEM_FUNCTIONS_WRAPPERS(rb); |
04:31:23 | kugel | I have: static const struct plugin_api* rb; |
04:31:25 | kugel | MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPER(rb); |
04:31:30 | jhMikeS | add the "S" :) |
04:31:42 | kugel | ahhh |
04:32:35 | kugel | meh, next time I don't copy and paste. My text editor's auto completition would have made me typed the S |
04:34:03 | kugel | Thanks, that did the job |
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05:27:49 | feyd2blak_2 | hi guys....I installed the gigabeat release yesterday, seems the centre of the cross/keypad no longer pauses....anyone experienced this?????/ |
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05:29:08 | chuklz | if you could help me with install walkthrough, i might be able to help |
05:29:28 | chuklz | if you can help me with install walkthrough, i might be able to help |
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05:30:50 | feyd2blak_2 | oh ok....downloaded the rockbox.zip from the current build site "http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml" then replaced my .rockbox folder with the new .rockbox.... |
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05:47:02 | feyd2blak | Hi guys...please help...since updating yesterday my gigabeat now has the centre of the keypad s a menu return instead of pause....is this the correct behaviour???? |
05:48:51 | feyd2blak | anyone out there..... |
05:49:08 | feyd2blak | is it too early in the morning..... |
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05:49:29 | feyd2blak | its 2pm in here in Australia |
05:52:00 | JdGordon | this chan is predominatly europe and usa... |
05:52:16 | JdGordon | and its not 2pm anywhere in au yet :) |
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06:20:09 | feyd2blak | Hey JdGordon, are you a gigabeat owner???? |
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06:21:33 | scorche|sh | have some patience.. |
06:21:36 | feyd2blak | Anyone a gigabeat owner????? |
06:22:06 | scorche|sh | < scorche|sh> have some patience.. |
06:22:40 | feyd2blak | sorry....used to MSN.... : ) |
06:23:07 | JdGordon | I'm not |
06:25:27 | feyd2blak | cool...thanx....I'm backtracking through the changelogs to see if I can find when the last change to gigabeats controls happened.... |
06:26:15 | feyd2blak | wasn't Davide Gentile's change....the day before buggers the pause as well |
06:30:55 | scorche|sh | how long ago was your last upddate from? |
06:32:13 | feyd2blak | probably mid April....just tried the 30th April build and the pause is the same.... |
06:33:30 | feyd2blak | I'll try further back.... |
06:37:55 | feyd2blak | Just tried the 17th April build and the same thing happens.... |
06:42:21 | perrikwp | feyd2blak: There was a Gigabeat keymap change back in August 2007 that switched the functionality of the "A" button and the "Select" button as referenced here http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12407.0 |
06:43:14 | feyd2blak | thanks perrikwp....I'll have a look now... |
06:43:56 | perrikwp | feyd2blak: So the "A" button now pauses and the "Select" button brings you back to the last menu you were previously in |
06:47:13 | feyd2blak | cool, thanks again perrikwp....I'll get used to it.... |
06:47:42 | perrikwp | feyd2blak: your welcome |
06:49:29 | feyd2blak | oh...i just thougt of something....cn the buttons be changed in the theme files, .wps???? or is it hard coded???? |
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06:51:50 | perrikwp | feyd2blak: It's hard-coded, in order to change what the buttons do, you would have to edit the source code and compile your own build |
06:54:40 | feyd2blak | cool....thanks again perrikwp |
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07:33:12 | BHSPitLappy | I wonder why we have a wikipage listing what we all have |
07:36:11 | JdGordon | to show off? |
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09:29:39 | * | JdGordon *hates* editing the wiki :/ |
09:37:43 | JdGordon | BUGGER! seems the build is broken again |
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09:42:44 | JdGordon | or not :) |
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10:13:37 | n1s | JdGordon: I've made a menu with MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE and MAKE_MENU to have some items conditionally display but when I use Icon_NOICON for the icons i still get the audio icon |
10:17:20 | JdGordon | thats a bit odd... |
10:17:40 | JdGordon | show me your code? |
10:21:51 | JdGordon | n1s: |
10:22:47 | n1s | http://pastebin.ca/1021697 |
10:24:43 | JdGordon | wierd :p |
10:29:39 | JdGordon | n1s: sorry, no idea... the root menu uses that macro and works fine so its not obvious what it could be.. and I have a bloody assingment to do cant spend much time on rb untill wedndesday |
10:30:21 | n1s | ok, thanks for looking at it anyway :) |
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10:32:19 | JdGordon | I wouldnt expect the audio icon... |
10:32:58 | JdGordon | Icon_Menu_functioncall would be possible... no idea where the audio one comes from though |
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10:58:53 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb__: the main difference between the 30 and the 60GB ZVM build are the firmware files (ie the header is different) + later there will be an other USB driver (which supports USB host mode) |
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11:18:13 | linuxstb | mcuelenaere: Thanks - I found the discussion in the logs... |
11:18:36 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: the one between me and amiconn? |
11:18:48 | linuxstb | Yes |
11:22:31 | markun | amiconn: sorry, you guys were right and I completely understood this guy: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16878.0 |
11:22:42 | markun | understood -> misunderstood |
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11:36:27 | pixelma | JdGordon: re. your forum post, preventing the OF database update does not work on the c200... |
11:36:47 | JdGordon | at all? |
11:36:59 | JdGordon | i mean.. its meant to? |
11:37:18 | pixelma | yes, because the c200 OF updates its database after USB disconnect (without rebooting) |
11:37:29 | pixelma | and not on USB connect |
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11:37:56 | JdGordon | ah ok |
11:39:12 | pixelma | the Rockbox bootloader does not have a chance to zero the bits (or what it was) to prevent that but the write protect system folder works great - it's not preventing the update but shortening it to a few seconds |
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11:53:46 | pixelma | JdGordon: is your H300 working again now? |
11:53:56 | BigBambi | pixelma: Have you thought any more about committing the c200 keymap changes, or are you still looking for more input? |
11:54:08 | JdGordon | pixelma: i can charge it.. whats up? |
11:54:35 | pixelma | mind taking a look at the e.g. the star plugin menu (and FS #8998)? |
11:55:05 | JdGordon | yeah, I saw that... ill get to it some time this week... doubtful before wed though |
11:55:21 | pixelma | thanks :) |
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11:55:47 | JdGordon | although, I rekon I know hat the problem is so might be a quick fix |
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11:56:40 | frodon | hello, i'm having some rockbox issue (i'm new user) on my sansa c200, any of you can provide some support ? |
11:56:42 | pixelma | BigBambi: I would want more input because there's still some problems/inconsistencies with it (in my own opinion) but it seems there is none... |
11:57:21 | BigBambi | Yes, I was thinking given the lack of input, and that even with those inconsistencies the new map is a million times better than SVN... |
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11:58:01 | pixelma | frodon: welcome, we can only answer that question if you tell us more about your problem... ;) |
11:58:03 | linuxstb | pixelma: Committing it is normally the only way to get people to test things.... |
11:58:29 | BigBambi | pixelma: I guess I'd just like to see it in, and people have had *loads* of time to object |
11:58:54 | pixelma | BigBambi: I would have hoped that more people will look at it, since more developers now have a c200... |
11:58:55 | * | linuxstb can't see how anything could be worse than the current mappings... |
11:58:59 | BigBambi | Small improvements can still be made afterwards, but it looks like nothing is going to happen... |
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11:59:07 | frodon | thanks pixelma, i successfully installed rockbox through the usility but it seems that database initialization do not end |
11:59:22 | BigBambi | pixelma: I know, but they haven't |
11:59:38 | frodon | it stops after seeing 712 file and stay there |
11:59:51 | pixelma | linuxstb, BigBambi: do you mean all parts or just some? |
11:59:56 | BigBambi | frodon: do you have any embedded album art |
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12:00:11 | frodon | possible |
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12:00:30 | frodon | you mean cover pictures in album folders right ? |
12:00:37 | BigBambi | pixelma: I'd put it all in, but at a minimum WPS/menu/file browser stuff |
12:00:54 | BigBambi | pixelma: I'm less concerned about recording/fm as I use it less |
12:00:57 | pixelma | linuxstb, BigBambi: but I'd like to finish my sokoban changes first, everything's prepared now... |
12:01:23 | BigBambi | pixelma: Oh, and virtual keyboard definitely, the current map for that makes me scream |
12:01:31 | BigBambi | frodon: I mean album art in the tags |
12:01:56 | frodon | then no |
12:01:58 | BigBambi | frodon: Usually when the database gets stuck scanning it is on an unusual tag |
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12:02:48 | BigBambi | frodon: You could try a binary search - remove half your music and check, still a problem another half and check, etc, to see if you can find a problem file, then we can investigate that |
12:03:12 | frodon | hum, all my tags are rather standard and works on other portable devices i have |
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12:03:23 | frodon | this is strange |
12:03:57 | BigBambi | frodon: It could well be a bug in rockbox, but it would help in discovering and then fixing that bug if we knew which file was casuing the problems so we can check it out |
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12:04:27 | frodon | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15678.0 here it says that files transferred in MTP mode can be an issue |
12:04:49 | frodon | and it is what i did |
12:05:02 | BigBambi | ah yes, I'd use MSC all the way |
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12:05:11 | SaadSaeed | yo' |
12:05:42 | frodon | where to set it in rockbox ? |
12:05:43 | SaadSaeed | im looking for some feedback from rockboxers who have installed this firmware on a 6th gen ipod |
12:06:01 | BigBambi | frodon: You use the Sansa firmware USB at the moment, so set it in there |
12:06:14 | BigBambi | SaadSaeed: Rockbox doesn't work on 6th gen iPods |
12:06:23 | frodon | no i use rockbox now |
12:06:34 | SaadSaeed | noooOOoooOOooooOOooo |
12:06:39 | BigBambi | frodon: Rockbox does not have a USB mode on the c200 |
12:06:51 | BigBambi | frodon: You have to use the Sansa firmware to transfer music |
12:07:13 | BigBambi | SaadSaeed: The players it works on are listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org |
12:07:15 | SaadSaeed | BigBambi: isnt iPod Video 60/80GB 6th gen? |
12:07:19 | BigBambi | no |
12:07:22 | BigBambi | 5.5 gen |
12:07:31 | BigBambi | The 6th gen is the Classic |
12:07:34 | frodon | so how to proceed, i guess it's trivial but i don't know |
12:07:49 | SaadSaeed | BigBambi: any ports in the pipeline? |
12:07:53 | BigBambi | frodon: In the Sansa firmware, set MSC mode then transfer your music like that |
12:08:06 | BigBambi | SaadSaeed: Nope. Ports are done by interested owners |
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12:08:28 | BigBambi | SaadSaeed: And the Classic has both an encrypted firmware, and completely new undocumented hardware |
12:08:31 | frodon | BigBambi, you got me wrong, how to boot the sansa firmware now that i have rockbox ? |
12:08:51 | SaadSaeed | ah shrugs... |
12:08:52 | BigBambi | frodon: That is in the manual, but this time you hold left while it is booting |
12:09:05 | frodon | ok thanks |
12:09:20 | SaadSaeed | i am too late to catch on with the ipod (been using my trusty JBR 20 since a long time ago) |
12:09:25 | Buschel | does anyone know how many cycles a "mul" and "mla" take on an arm7? |
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12:12:17 | domonoky | Buschel: google tells me its 1 cycle for Mul and 2 for mla :-) |
12:12:50 | Buschel | domonoky: can we trust google? ;) |
12:12:59 | domonoky | http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0337e/BABBCJII.html |
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12:13:23 | SaadSaeed | hmmph read the ipod classic article on wikipedia |
12:13:27 | SaadSaeed | says the same thing |
12:13:36 | SaadSaeed | thx for the help BigBambi |
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12:15:59 | JdGordon | your unfortunatly not the only one :( |
12:16:18 | * | JdGordon is happy to admit he got that one wrong |
12:16:18 | * | SaadSaeed still keeps hopes up |
12:16:47 | linuxstb | Buschel, domonoky: Are you talking about arm7tdmi (which is armv4) ? IIUC, that table shows armv7 - a high-end ARM architecture. |
12:17:27 | JdGordon | pixelma: star was a stupid mistake and fixed.. the others im not so sure about... the best thing to do is almost hide the statusbar like star does... |
12:17:43 | domonoky | ups, i always get cought by those strange arm version numbering... |
12:17:44 | Buschel | linuxstb: yes, i am talking about arm7tdmi and Smul, Smla... |
12:17:54 | n1s | Buschel: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0337e/BABBCJII.html |
12:18:47 | JdGordon | pixelma: or get the colours from the curent theme |
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12:29:59 | domonoky | Buschel: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~panalyzer/pdfs/ARM_doc.pdf < this is better for Arm7tdmi, but no exact cycle counts... it depends on pipelining... |
12:30:50 | domonoky | and on the values you multiply, because it has early termination... |
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12:37:04 | JdGordon | pixelma: easy fix for the remaiing plugins.... change the 4th parameter of rb->do_menu() to false.... (if you have time and an itching to fix them...) |
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12:37:40 | frodon | ok i reloaded all my music in MSC usb mode, will see if it was the problem (database currently creating) |
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12:55:27 | * | Buschel is confused about all these dependencies for cycle count of mul and mla |
12:55:48 | Buschel | seems like mul can be assumed to use 2-3 and mla 3-4 cycles |
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13:00:18 | Buschel | but this contradicts several asm-optimizations that were made in yuv-conversion for example. 3 adds instead of mul (both multipliers zero for bits 31-8). |
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13:00:43 | Buschel | this implies that mul is more expensive than 3 cycles |
13:00:47 | Buschel | ?? |
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13:01:50 | MrPopov | hey there |
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13:03:10 | MrPopov | i got a question concerning my e250 v2: is there any possibility to enqueue songs to my playlist, while I'm listening to it? |
13:03:30 | BigBambi | MrPopov: Rockbox doesn't run on the v2 |
13:03:45 | MrPopov | oh! |
13:03:48 | MrPopov | not good |
13:04:26 | MrPopov | does rockbox have that feature? |
13:04:30 | BigBambi | yes |
13:07:15 | MrPopov | any chance rockbox might be available soon for the v2? |
13:07:39 | BigBambi | Ports are done by interested owners |
13:07:40 | MrPopov | or what other player would you recommend that supports rockbox? |
13:07:53 | BigBambi | A few people have started looking - check out the New Ports forum |
13:08:17 | BigBambi | www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
13:08:26 | Buschel | hmm, when taking into account 50% of the multipliers are signed -> mul = ~4 cycles, mla = ~5 cycles. does this match what experienced asm-coder expect? |
13:08:36 | Buschel | *coders |
13:09:26 | frodon | BigBambi, i have still the same issue reuploading all in MSC mode, except album art what could cause tag recognition problem ? |
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13:09:28 | MrPopov | thanks |
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13:09:55 | pixelma | any other opinions about my new sokoban graphics (posted a link yesterday here)? |
13:09:58 | BigBambi | frodon: I don't know, you could do a binary search to identify the problem file |
13:10:31 | frodon | what do you call a binary search ? |
13:10:33 | linuxstb | frodon: Have you checked your disk for errors? e.g. with "chkdsk /f" ? |
13:11:03 | frodon | did a dosfsck with no pb |
13:11:15 | amiconn | Buschel: mul can be 2..5 cycles depending on the operand where early terminations is implemented, mla and (s|u)mull are 3..6 cycles, and (u |
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13:11:25 | amiconn | |s)mlal is 4..7 cycles |
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13:11:54 | amiconn | Early termination is only implemented for one of the operands iiuc, but I don't know for which one |
13:11:56 | BigBambi | frodon: I explained abinary search before, check the IRC logs |
13:12:20 | linuxstb | frodon: A binary search is where you split your files into two halves. Test each half on your player, and if one half works, you know the problem file is in the other half. Repeat... |
13:12:38 | amiconn | Signedness doesn't matter, as early termination works for both all-zero and all-one bytes |
13:12:55 | frodon | yep, i will found the problematic album but not the solution |
13:13:24 | BigBambi | You have found the problematic track? |
13:13:27 | linuxstb | frodon: The best solution is to make an example problem file available to a dev, so we can investigate and fix the bug in Rockbox. |
13:13:47 | gevaerts | pixelma: I'm not a fanatic sokoban player, but I think the new ones look better |
13:14:00 | BigBambi | pixelma: I much preferred your new graphics |
13:14:16 | frodon | linuxstb, sure i was currently trying to do this |
13:14:21 | pixelma | cool, thanks. Will prepare a commit then |
13:14:30 | frodon | could you point me where to fuill a bug report ? thanks |
13:14:47 | BigBambi | frodon: there is a link marked bugs on the left of www.rockbox.org |
13:14:56 | opaaliola | hi all! my 1st time here. sorry for commotion guys :) tell me should i really install rockbox in my video iPod? :D hav only read about it but i don't really know anything yet. |
13:15:13 | linuxstb | opaaliola: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox |
13:15:14 | BigBambi | opaaliola: What answer do you expect in the rockbox IRC channel? :) |
13:15:25 | opaaliola | haha |
13:15:29 | opaaliola | who knows ;D |
13:15:51 | linuxstb | opaaliola: Do you like itunes? |
13:16:17 | opaaliola | maybe yeah. i use macintosh and itunes works well in here :) |
13:17:39 | linuxstb | Then maybe Rockbox isn't for you - it basically ignores itunes... You also need to convert your ipod to "FAT32" format in order to use Rockbox. But Rockbox is easily uninstalled if you don't like it. |
13:17:50 | BigBambi | and it dual boots |
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13:20:37 | opaaliola | is it really easy to remove? and if I want my pod back to basic apple-based software, it's not a hard stint? |
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13:20:48 | BigBambi | yes, it is easy |
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13:21:07 | opaaliola | ok |
13:22:09 | opaaliola | rockbox urers usually are windows or linux users I think ;) mut maybe I wouldn't be the only mac-guy here |
13:22:25 | BigBambi | no, you are not the only mac person |
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13:23:59 | opaaliola | BigBambi you mentioned about the dual-boot. Could I have more info about it somewhere? |
13:24:08 | BigBambi | opaaliola: yes, in the manual |
13:24:13 | opaaliola | k, thx |
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13:30:24 | frodon | ok problem is not in tag |
13:30:41 | frodon | if if update database by small parts it works like a charm |
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13:59:15 | bertrik | hmmm, can't use queue_wait_w_tmo with argument ticks=TIMEOUT_BLOCK ? |
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14:05:34 | amiconn | bertrik: Just use queue_wait() then... |
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14:08:23 | XQTFTQX | Is it possible to edit the gigabeat s bootloader to check for a file and if its there, boot into the orginal firmware? |
14:11:32 | BigBambi | XQTFTQX: dual boot already works by booting with hold on... |
14:11:58 | bertrik | amiconn: ok, I'll do that, just seems that there's quite a bit of redundancy in various parts of the code, because there's both functions that block and functions that take a timeout argument |
14:12:06 | XQTFTQX | I understand, i want to know if i can use the bootloader to check for a file, insted of using hold |
14:12:20 | BigBambi | XQTFTQX: theoretically I guess so |
14:12:40 | XQTFTQX | whould i need to edit the bootloader file or mknkboot? |
14:13:47 | amiconn | bertrik: There are often functions which are cut-down versions of more generic ones |
14:14:09 | amiconn | Actually this makes sense, because a function with fewer arguments needs less code to call it |
14:14:32 | bertrik | yeah, but they may need an additional if to decide which function (timeout or block) to call |
14:14:51 | amiconn | The effect is most noticeable when crossing the 4-argument boundary on SH1 and arm |
14:14:54 | bertrik | and I guess it increases the binsize |
14:16:00 | amiconn | Functions up to 4 arguments use regparms on those platforms |
14:16:15 | bertrik | ok, I wasn't aware of that |
14:17:40 | bertrik | I think I'll experiment a bit with it and see if it makes a difference |
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15:01:52 | domonoky | can someone with a m:robe100 try FS #9008 ? |
15:11:28 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: none of your apps.lds changes should effect the mr500 yeah? |
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15:28:49 | Xqtftwqx | \name Xqtftqx |
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15:31:16 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: normally, no |
15:31:42 | JdGordon | not having much luck booting a regular build and trying to work out why |
15:31:47 | JdGordon | bootloader build is fine |
15:32:40 | mcuelenaere | hmm, maybe it's related to crt0.S? |
15:32:50 | mcuelenaere | but I shouldn't have touched that either on the mrobe |
15:33:36 | mcuelenaere | what's the latest build which works? |
15:33:53 | JdGordon | no, I've changed my mind.. ive got debug lcd_printf's working |
15:34:30 | JdGordon | one nice thing about the huge lcd is lots of room for debug lines :) |
15:34:33 | mcuelenaere | :P |
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15:35:02 | JdGordon | crashing in audio_init() |
15:36:27 | mcuelenaere | did you apply patches to your build? |
15:36:44 | JdGordon | no, svn build |
15:38:37 | mcuelenaere | where in audio_init() does it crash? |
15:40:10 | JdGordon | dunno... finding out now... |
15:40:23 | JdGordon | I've added about 20 printf() lines :( |
15:40:27 | * | JdGordon needs jtag |
15:40:33 | mcuelenaere | :) |
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15:44:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Around? |
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15:45:40 | JdGordon | yay infinite loop! |
15:45:53 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: Yes |
15:46:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Got my m240 in the post yesterday. |
15:46:27 | linuxstb | Which version? |
15:46:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | Original firmware version is 2.2.5A. |
15:46:47 | linuxstb | I think that's a v1 then. IIRC the v2's OF is 4.x.x |
15:47:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | This is definitely a v1. |
15:48:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | It says "REFURB" on the bottom by the battery compartment. |
15:49:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll try using tcctool to load something into it later. |
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15:49:51 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: infinite loop where? |
15:50:21 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: If you wanted an easy task to help with the port, you could try to get the Sim building, and improve the keymappings... |
15:50:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Yes, sir! :) |
15:50:48 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: setting the line in volume! |
15:50:57 | JdGordon | it was my bad.. I stupped up adding vlume control |
15:51:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll be back later on... need breakfast. |
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15:52:28 | JdGordon | does gcc not like having two files in different directories with the same filename? |
15:53:37 | Xqtftwqx | BigBambi why dont you commit the gigabeat s keymaps for the beast? |
15:53:46 | Xqtftwqx | for the text viewer |
15:53:55 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: Because I don't have commit access :) |
15:54:17 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: I'm sure someone will get to it, and if not I'll bug someone |
15:54:29 | Xqtftwqx | lol, yeah |
15:56:08 | Xqtftwqx | Im still puzzled while doom works in the simulator but not the real build |
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15:56:13 | Xqtftwqx | why* |
15:56:34 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: come baaaack! |
15:56:51 | BigBambi | The sim and the target are *very* different environments |
15:57:14 | BigBambi | It is a SIMulator not an EMulator |
15:57:37 | Xqtftwqx | Ohhhh, i see i was confused, I was thinking a emulator |
15:57:45 | moos | BigBambi: where is your patch? |
15:57:53 | BigBambi | moos: 9004 |
15:58:07 | BigBambi | moos: It is just for the text viewer |
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15:58:19 | moos | BigBambi: I'll take a look and commit it |
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15:58:21 | BigBambi | moos: Adds some missing keympas, and frees up the volume keys |
15:58:26 | BigBambi | moos: Thanks very much |
15:58:36 | moos | no problem |
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16:00:13 | JdGordon | anyone got an email address for mcuelenaere? |
16:00:56 | DerPapst | pm him on the forums? |
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16:02:47 | moos | BigBambi: seems nice |
16:02:54 | BigBambi | cool :) |
16:03:00 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: back :) |
16:03:08 | JdGordon | i got values for you |
16:03:09 | * | mcuelenaere blames my internet connection |
16:03:18 | mcuelenaere | his* |
16:03:20 | * | JdGordon nearly went blind reading them off ?:p |
16:03:22 | BigBambi | moos: I had amiconn's advice for the PRE stuff so should be OK (and I did test of course) :) |
16:03:36 | Xqtftwqx | BigBambi will that patch fix the keympas for the dict? does it use the text viewer as base? |
16:03:49 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: no, just the text viewer |
16:03:57 | BigBambi | What is up with dict (I don't use it) |
16:04:03 | Xqtftwqx | hold on |
16:04:06 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: could you pastebin them? |
16:04:16 | JdGordon | on the way |
16:04:44 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: http://pastebin.ca/1021881 |
16:04:52 | * | DerPapst doesn't even know how dict works :-P |
16:04:54 | mcuelenaere | lol @ that loop in tsc2100.c :P |
16:04:54 | JdGordon | hope thats ok, the names were too annoying to get |
16:05:35 | mcuelenaere | no problem, they are in the order as in debug-dm320.c ? |
16:05:43 | kugel | DerPapst: same |
16:05:46 | kugel | :) |
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16:06:06 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: not sure.. read em straight off the debug screen.. so whatever spits them out there |
16:06:07 | jpt9 | hey. |
16:06:23 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: dict looks OK to me, there is only one key defined (for quit), and that is back |
16:06:36 | jpt9 | I'm having a problem installing the latest voice files on my Sansa E250R using rockbox utility on Vista. |
16:06:54 | jpt9 | It's trying to download "sansae200−−english.voice". |
16:07:00 | jpt9 | it gets a 404. |
16:07:12 | Xqtftwqx | My dicts not working, every word i lookup i get "(slang) a neibor" |
16:07:22 | jpt9 | I haven't really been paying attention to the messages before, but I imagine it should probably be "sansa-e200-english.voice"? |
16:07:39 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: Is that the exact error? |
16:08:16 | Xqtftwqx | its not a error, its what the definition says |
16:08:19 | Xqtftwqx | for every word |
16:08:30 | Xqtftwqx | Im doing a reboot of rockbox, that may fix it |
16:08:32 | BigBambi | That sounds like a problem with your dictionary file |
16:08:43 | BigBambi | What dictionary file are you using? |
16:08:47 | Xqtftwqx | its wierd, it wasnt happening before |
16:09:18 | Xqtftwqx | A reboot fixed it |
16:10:01 | Xqtftwqx | Nope theres no keymaps for the dict either |
16:10:15 | mcuelenaere | wow, Olympus just leaves almost all clocks on on their m:robe 500.. |
16:10:26 | BigBambi | moos: thanks |
16:10:35 | BigBambi | I'll shut the flyspray |
16:10:35 | moos | BigBambi: no problem |
16:10:40 | moos | done too :) |
16:10:48 | BigBambi | cool :) |
16:11:11 | BigBambi | Maybe I'll reopen it then shut it :) |
16:11:13 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: mm I suppose these values are without the DSP patch applied? |
16:11:22 | Xqtftwqx | BigBambi: Ill add keymaps for the dict |
16:11:25 | JdGordon | yeah, svn |
16:11:27 | moos | BigBambi: hehe :) |
16:11:32 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: What keymaps? |
16:11:41 | Xqtftwqx | Theres no keymaps for scrolling in the dict |
16:11:50 | JdGordon | mcuelenaere: I'm not sure if karl or cat have done any clock fiddling |
16:11:53 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: there isn't for any target that I can see |
16:12:00 | Xqtftwqx | Realy? |
16:12:07 | BigBambi | look in dict.c |
16:12:30 | Xqtftwqx | Hmm theres not, thats wierd |
16:12:34 | mcuelenaere | JdGordon: they must have, otherwise the DSP would be runned without a clock? |
16:12:48 | DerPapst | pluginlib_actions? or however thy're called |
16:13:01 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: look at line 270 |
16:13:38 | Xqtftwqx | Oh, hmmm |
16:13:56 | BigBambi | also 322 |
16:14:12 | BigBambi | It isn't just a case of adding keymaps, you will need to extend the plugin |
16:14:28 | Xqtftwqx | Yeah i see that now |
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16:29:19 | jpt9 | hey. |
16:29:21 | Xqtftwqx | BigBambi, if i want to rearange a menu where is that stored? |
16:29:39 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: main menu or a plugin? |
16:29:52 | Xqtftwqx | Main Meny |
16:29:55 | Xqtftwqx | Menu* |
16:29:59 | jpt9 | is there any way to get an actual speech synthesizer on rockbox? |
16:29:59 | BigBambi | I don't know for the core |
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16:30:11 | Xqtftwqx | Dang |
16:30:13 | BigBambi | jpt9: It's possible if someone writes/ports one |
16:30:25 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: Do you mean in the source? |
16:30:29 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: Try greping the source |
16:30:31 | jpt9 | I think someone was working on eSpeak; that would be quite cool (I love the British voices) |
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16:30:41 | Xqtftwqx | Yes the source |
16:30:56 | BigBambi | jpt9: There was something on the tracker, but there was a v2 vs v3 GPL issue IIRC |
16:30:57 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: apps/root_menu.c |
16:31:05 | Xqtftwqx | Thanks Kugel |
16:31:05 | jpt9 | ah. |
16:31:12 | jpt9 | that's annoying... |
16:31:21 | jpt9 | how about Festival Lite or something? |
16:31:50 | BigBambi | If the licence is compatible sure, but someone needs to port it |
16:32:45 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: You only need line 392+ |
16:32:51 | Xqtftwqx | K thanks |
16:33:14 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: &menu_ is the settings item, before you ask |
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16:36:22 | Xqtftwqx | Can i change the name? Like change Database to Music? |
16:36:53 | BigBambi | Xqtftwqx: You can do that just in a lang file I believe |
16:37:06 | Xqtftwqx | Alright Thanks |
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16:37:56 | Xqtftwqx | Can i add a menu item? Like that opens a location in the file browser |
16:37:58 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: alternatively you can change line 351 to say ID2P(LANG_MUSIC) instead |
16:38:27 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: Yes you can (you can do nearly anything) |
16:38:42 | Xqtftwqx | How whould i do that* |
16:39:50 | kugel | Xqtftwqx: take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6988 |
16:40:18 | Xqtftwqx | Ok thanks |
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16:44:52 | Xqtftwqx | can somebody send me the s simulator? the site doesnt load |
16:45:00 | Xqtftwqx | nvm i got it |
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16:49:15 | Xqtftwqx | whould removing <phrase>*</phrase> remove that entry? |
16:50:27 | JdGordon | yesm but thats not a good idea |
16:51:23 | Xqtftwqx | Why? |
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17:25:17 | preglow | are scrollbars supposed to not fill their blank area with a solid colour? |
17:25:33 | KarlTPB | Hi I'm Karl |
17:25:46 | KarlTPB | Just came here for some quick help |
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17:26:15 | BigBambi | KarlTPB: you need to ask a quetion forst |
17:26:18 | BigBambi | *first |
17:26:19 | DerPapst | good night JdGordon|zzz |
17:26:22 | DerPapst | :-) |
17:26:32 | KarlTPB | I'm able to compile rockbox just fine, but checkwps is giving me some errors |
17:26:53 | KarlTPB | This is the message that gets displayed: |
17:27:01 | KarlTPB | In file included from apps/recorder/bmp.c:36: firmware/export/debug.h:25: error: parse error before "ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF" firmware/export/debug.h:25: warning: data definition has no type or storage class firmware/export/debug.h:27: error: parse error before "ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF" firmware/export/debug.h:27: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make: *** [checkwps] Error 1 |
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17:28:07 | KarlTPB | I'm using revision 17564 |
17:28:18 | BigBambi | KarlTPB: Which target are you interested in? |
17:28:50 | KarlTPB | I'm interested in compiling the tool for ipodvideo |
17:29:00 | linuxstb | Are you using cygwin? |
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17:29:00 | BigBambi | I get errors in D2 and mrobe 500 but the others work |
17:29:10 | KarlTPB | but the error occurs for every target for me |
17:29:27 | KarlTPB | Yeah, I'm using cygwin |
17:29:49 | linuxstb | Someone else reported that bug, but I don't think it's been fixed yet. |
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17:30:16 | KarlTPB | Ah, okay |
17:30:38 | KarlTPB | I couldn't find it in the bug tracker though |
17:30:39 | pixelma | preglow: what scrollbars are you talking about? |
17:30:49 | linuxstb | KarlTPB: It's an issue specific to cygwin. |
17:31:01 | KarlTPB | Oh I see |
17:31:39 | KarlTPB | Are any precompiled binaries available? |
17:32:15 | linuxstb | I can probably build one for you... |
17:32:35 | BigBambi | KarlTPB: I'll put one up now if you like |
17:32:36 | KarlTPB | Alright, thanks. I need one for ipodvideo though. |
17:33:37 | BigBambi | http://aeparker.com/files/checkwps.ipodvideo |
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17:34:13 | linuxstb | KarlTPB: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/checkwps-ipodvideo.zip |
17:34:21 | BigBambi | hehehe :) |
17:34:25 | BigBambi | a competition :) |
17:34:31 | * | linuxstb called his .exe though... |
17:34:35 | KarlTPB | Haha, thanks to both of you |
17:34:51 | KarlTPB | Yeah I noticed |
17:34:53 | BigBambi | yeah, mine was a native linux one :) |
17:35:02 | BigBambi | KarlTPB: I'd go with linuxstb |
17:35:15 | * | linuxstb notices BigBambi built a Linux binary... |
17:35:31 | KarlTPB | Haha, yeah |
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17:35:33 | BigBambi | linuxstb: yes, it twigged afterwards what cygwin meant |
17:35:52 | linuxstb | KarlTPB: That binary doesn't need cygwin - it's a normal win32 (console) .exe |
17:36:08 | linuxstb | You run it from a normal command prompt. |
17:36:36 | KarlTPB | Thanks for letting me know. |
17:37:14 | KarlTPB | I'll leave now, thanks guys |
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17:42:29 | preglow | pixelma: the "deleting..." progress bar seems to be a scrollbar in disguise, and backdrops seem to show through the unfilled area, at least on h1x0 |
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17:44:09 | kugel | just tried to build checkwps |
17:44:11 | kugel | failed |
17:44:22 | BigBambi | on what? |
17:44:47 | BigBambi | they build fine for me (xcept d2 and mrobe 500) on linux |
17:45:08 | kugel | on a svn it works |
17:45:16 | kugel | I guess many warnings though |
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17:45:42 | BigBambi | except for the errors with d2 and mrobe 500 no warnings |
17:45:43 | kugel | BigBambi: 32 or 64 bit? |
17:45:46 | BigBambi | 32 |
17:46:03 | kugel | I guess it's 64bit issue then (the warnings) |
17:46:24 | * | linuxstb thinks these 64-bit users need to start submitting patches... ;) |
17:47:40 | kugel | What was the command to make gcc print warnings in English? |
17:47:57 | kugel | LANG=CC? |
17:48:05 | kugel | yea, seems to do the job |
17:48:16 | bertrik | kugel: I think so, maybe use export LANG=CC to make the setting stick |
17:48:27 | kugel | all those warnings seems to be the same actually: ../../apps/gui/wps_parser.c:1530: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
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17:49:35 | kugel | line 1530 is: char *wps_buffer = (char *)plugin_get_buffer(&buffersize); |
17:51:02 | kugel | char *wps_buffer = (char *)((long)plugin_get_buffer(&buffersize)); kills the warnings |
17:51:26 | kugel | at least on my system, I'm not sure if it'd be proper fix |
17:52:16 | kugel | int64_t also works |
17:53:38 | linuxstb | That seems odd - plugin_get_buffer returns (void*), so you shouldn't even need the (char*) cast there (IIUC). |
17:55:47 | kugel | are you sure? |
17:56:07 | linuxstb | No, that's why I said "IIUC". |
17:56:21 | kugel | I get a warning if I remove it: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast |
17:58:26 | kugel | But: (from plugin.h) void* (*plugin_get_buffer)(size_t *buffer_size); |
17:58:28 | toffe82 | I think I found the problem of usb on my S but I need some information to tes it : where is the usb detect in the code, I need to force usb on with a sequence of button |
17:58:51 | toffe82 | and off also |
17:59:52 | linuxstb | firmware/target/arm/imx31/gigabeat-s/usb-imx31.c |
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18:00:07 | toffe82 | ok |
18:00:13 | linuxstb | And firmware/usb.c |
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18:01:49 | toffe82 | I think that the fuse for the usb detect is blown so the firmware doesn't see a connection but the upodatye force the usb on so it works |
18:02:28 | DerPapst | the beast seems to be pretty fragile... |
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18:03:35 | bluebrother | Bagder: can we get m:robe 100 as target in the tracker? |
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18:08:18 | BigBambi | and the gigabeat S |
18:08:48 | BigBambi | (renaming existing Gigabeat to Gigabeat F/X) |
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19:27:48 | sarascle | i got a sansa fuze will rockbox work |
19:28:20 | n1s | sarascle: rockbox does not work on that |
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19:31:39 | sarascle | will it |
19:32:03 | BigBambi | If someone (i.e. interested owners) do the work |
19:32:06 | n1s | sarascle: no one is working on a port so unless someone starts, no |
19:32:16 | BigBambi | But it won't work as result of wishful thinking |
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19:34:13 | sarascle | any idea how much work is in it |
19:34:18 | BigBambi | lots |
19:34:28 | BigBambi | www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
19:34:40 | BigBambi | and there is a thread in the New Ports forum |
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19:39:48 | sarascle | so should i take it back and get a sanza e250 |
19:40:05 | DerPapst | if it's a v1... |
19:40:12 | BigBambi | That's up to you, but if you do make sure you get a v1 e250 - the v2 don't work |
19:40:31 | BigBambi | And to get a v1 you are probably looking at ebay, or the odd refurbished one |
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19:40:55 | sarascle | will rockbox to audioable books |
19:41:10 | BigBambi | I don't understand that sentence |
19:41:41 | sarascle | does rockbox work with audioable book format |
19:42:01 | BigBambi | I believe that is DRM infected, so no |
19:42:04 | n1s | sarascle: afaik audible audio books are drm infected so we can't support them |
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19:43:55 | llingvo | Does anyone have advice on where to start writing a customized shuffle for rockbox? |
19:44:08 | BigBambi | customised in what way? |
19:44:41 | llingvo | Hm. Basically, I want to weight how frequently different directories are played from, and play several tracks consecutively, until a time limit is met, then switch to the next directory (chosen randomly) |
19:44:55 | BigBambi | blimey |
19:45:07 | BigBambi | I can't help I'm afraid, but have fun :) |
19:45:09 | llingvo | I do it on my desktop with a simple python script, but I'm wanting to port it to rockbox |
19:45:15 | llingvo | Eh, ok; thanks :) |
19:45:50 | llingvo | I see two possible approaches - hacking rockbox itself (judging by how often 'shuffle' appears in the code, that'll be a handful and a half), or adding a plugin to generate playlists, as far as I can see |
19:51:13 | soap | llingvo, Have you thought about modifying the "random folder advance" plugin for your purposes? |
19:52:09 | llingvo | soap: nope, because I didn't know of it; I'll look at it. Thanks! |
19:52:10 | soap | That could easily address the "how frequently different directories are played from" issue - on the "random time in one directory before skipping to another directory" issue I think you would need to think along another line. |
19:52:40 | soap | Perhaps a plugin to "prebuild" playlists weighted to your specifications. |
19:52:48 | llingvo | soap: hm... the way I'm addressing it with my desktop code is to have it as a soft lower limit - basically, each time a track finishes playing, I check whether I've exceeded the time, and if so, switch directories |
19:53:00 | llingvo | hmm.. yeah, that's roughly what the direction I was tending towards |
19:53:52 | soap | I understand that - but w/o modifying playback code you can't easily do that. The exact same result could be achieved by doing all the random decision making /before/ a playlist is started. You could do that through a plugin. |
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19:56:45 | bluebrother | llingvo: creating a playlist based on a playcount search might also be something like that. |
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20:00:06 | Llorean | I would say the best method for tackling it is some sort of playlist generation plugin. It'd probably be the most flexible way (and possibly least difficult to boot) |
20:00:24 | soap | markun, the reason I asked (in the wrong channel) earlier if the forum poster assertion that volume reduction in the digital domain increases distortion was because "use the EQ preamp as a way to cap volume" is the "standard answer". I was under the belief that digital volume reduction would only decrease signal to noise ratio - not add additional distortion - but didn't want to say such to the poster out of fear I was incorrect. |
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20:02:10 | Llorean | soap: very same reason I didn't post a response. |
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20:22:34 | saratoga | soap: using preamp to reduce volume cuts off bits at the bottom of each sample, which realistically are always noise unless you're cutting off a lot of bits |
20:23:03 | saratoga | it shouldn't have any perceptable impact on quality |
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20:23:57 | Llorean | saratoga: Well the comparison is with actual volume reduction anyway. |
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20:38:22 | amiconn | typo police raid... |
20:38:30 | llingvo | oh? |
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20:39:24 | amiconn | See last 3 commits |
20:43:44 | n1s | shameless commit count increase :P |
20:43:47 | saratoga | Llorean: mind if I delete the tech support stuff from the S thread? |
20:44:20 | BigBambi | saratoga: If you do, PM him to explain why, and with the gist of the last messages |
20:44:29 | Llorean | saratoga: Wait and make sure he sees my last mention for him to post elsewhere. |
20:44:59 | Llorean | But yeah, if he manages to realize to post elsewhere, or ignores it, just nuke all of the off-topic stuff in the thread |
20:45:03 | saratoga | I thought the "tech support requests will be deleted" post was pretty clear |
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20:53:02 | saratoga | sort of made some sense of the profile resutls on ARM for mp3 |
20:53:18 | saratoga | synth_full uses 45% of the total run time of the codec |
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20:56:20 | saratoga | it also says "III_decode" which is the entrance point of the codec uses 35%, which can't be right |
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21:00:05 | preglow | saratoga: well, synth_full makes sense, that's the smull/smlal hellhole |
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21:05:11 | saratoga | unfortunately its all asm already |
21:05:39 | saratoga | though its half ldr's, which seems odd not to use ldm |
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21:23:28 | linuxstb | preglow: Any interesting D2 progress? |
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21:35:10 | BigBambi | Buschel: you seen http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16911.msg0#new |
21:35:40 | BigBambi | potential old version being removed issue? |
21:36:04 | * | Llorean was waiting for Buschel to show up to point him at that very thread and ask about it. |
21:36:30 | BigBambi | hehe :) |
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21:45:26 | Buschel | just saw it and responded −− imho two things are possible: sv4/5/6-files or the change in the seeking. |
21:46:01 | Lear | Foobar shows stream version... |
21:46:22 | Buschel | sv4/5/6 will switch to the next file. if the whole folder is of such files the hdd will always load the next... |
21:47:02 | Buschel | that's why i didn't remove but #undef'ed the code |
21:48:03 | Buschel | if so it will be no fun to merge the sv4-6 code into the sv8 stuff... |
21:48:08 | Buschel | but let's see |
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21:51:52 | Buschel | saratoga: your profiling on mp3 has similar results as i had yesterday. in fact the dewindowing (synthfull1, synthfull2 and the EVEN/ODD-macros) is quite optimized. |
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21:55:38 | saratoga | Buschel: how much CPU time did synthfull use? |
21:56:02 | saratoga | the rockbox profiler says 45%, but i'm not sure i believe it |
21:56:22 | Buschel | saratoga: i remember 13MHz for synthfull + macros and 6MHz for dct32 |
21:57:01 | Buschel | saratoga: from 37MHz overall |
21:57:36 | saratoga | maybe the number i got for the profiler is for synth_full and evereything it calls (including dct32) |
21:58:29 | Buschel | sounds reasonable |
21:59:01 | Buschel | you've got results for imdct + imcdt-window + anti-alias? |
21:59:11 | Buschel | (all asm'ed though) |
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22:12:55 | saratoga | Buschel: I've got the output of GCC's profiler, but some doubt about how to interpret the addresses for functions it reports (some match objdump,. but not the .map) |
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22:13:54 | Buschel | saratoga: can you match the most consuming parts following synthfull? |
22:14:36 | saratoga | Buschel: http://pastebin.com/m7cf1b8db |
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22:14:58 | BuXY95 | hi people! |
22:15:33 | BuXY95 | is it possible to fine-tune somehow the quartz oscillator of the iriver ihp120 |
22:16:19 | saratoga | BuXY95: why would you want to? |
22:17:17 | bertrik | BuXY95: I don't know, but I do know that some RTCs indeed support something like that. |
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22:17:58 | BuXY95 | my problem is that recording audio with iriver and video with a DV camcorder, when i put the 1 hour reels together, there is almost half second difference in length! :( |
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22:21:56 | BuXY95 | so the iriver is recording slower than my camcorder |
22:21:59 | saratoga | BuXY95: its probably going to be a lot easier to just resample the audio |
22:22:20 | BuXY95 | or insert some duplicate frames in the video... |
22:24:15 | BuXY95 | *sigh* |
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22:33:47 | Buschel | saratoga: III_decode does the demuxing and requantization? |
22:34:02 | Buschel | saratoga: or is it the imdct-stuff? |
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22:34:38 | quest23 | im having problems getting pacman to work...any help? |
22:35:56 | quest23 | anyone there? |
22:35:56 | n1s | quest23: have you dumped the files correctly from your pacman machine? |
22:36:02 | quest23 | ? |
22:36:10 | n1s | the roms for pacman |
22:36:27 | pixelma | what player, what problems, what information did you read so far? |
22:36:30 | BigBambi | You can check the MD5 sums of your dumped files against the values on the Pacbox page in the wiki |
22:36:35 | quest23 | i put them in the .rockbox/pacman folder like it said |
22:36:40 | quest23 | if thats what you mean |
22:36:50 | quest23 | i read the manual |
22:37:17 | n1s | quest23: and you have _all_ the files the manual says you need? |
22:37:25 | quest23 | yes |
22:37:34 | pixelma | what player do you have? |
22:37:51 | quest23 | ipod 5 video |
22:38:32 | quest23 | i go to the game and it says no roms in .rockbox/pacman |
22:39:17 | quest23 | i checked and they are there...maybe i got bad files...not sure...but they are the same as the ones in the manual |
22:39:43 | n1s | quest23: have you compared md5 sums like BigBambi suggested? |
22:40:21 | quest23 | md5 sum???where do i see that info..i see it in the manual...but the roms i got i dont see that info... |
22:40:59 | n1s | well, you need some program that calculates it, I'm sure google can help you find one |
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22:42:03 | quest23 | pacman.6e file type 6e does that look right |
22:42:13 | quest23 | or do i need to do something to them first |
22:42:47 | * | Buschel really needs to generate some >1 hour mpc-file |
22:42:49 | Llorean | quest23: Why not do what is recommended... |
22:43:26 | Llorean | quest23: Giving us random information that we didn't ask for is just going to make this take longer, and be more frustrating for both sides, because until you check the md5sums we simply won't know if the files are right. |
22:43:58 | quest23 | k...sorry..didnt see thatline...doing that now...my apologies |
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22:44:46 | * | kugel keeps typing i.e. instead of e.g :/ |
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22:45:01 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9010 |
22:45:09 | saratoga | Buschel: I'm not too familar with the mad code so i'm not sure |
22:45:26 | Buschel | hmm, when i do uint16 x = y; whereas y is uint32 and larger than max_uint16 (e.g. 70000). what is the result of x? |
22:45:32 | Llorean | kugel: Pasting random tracker tasks into the channel doesn't do much good... |
22:45:54 | BigBambi | kugel: I don't see the i.e. :) |
22:45:59 | Buschel | will it be saturated to max_uint16 or does it wrap around to e.g. 70000-65535 |
22:46:10 | amiconn | Buschel: I'd expect it to wrap |
22:46:11 | saratoga | Buschel: I think it truncates without saturation |
22:46:11 | kugel | it's not random. It's an issue I noticed today and allready talked about that with linuxstb_ |
22:46:21 | kugel | BigBambi: I do |
22:46:29 | BigBambi | kugel: check again |
22:46:34 | kugel | ah ok :) |
22:46:35 | Llorean | kugel: It's random if you just sign into the channel and paste it, without perhaps giving some sort of context. A conversation from hours ago hardly qualifies as context. |
22:46:40 | kugel | hehe |
22:46:58 | Buschel | amiconn/saratoga: hehe, two people, two answers |
22:47:01 | kugel | Llorean: I got it |
22:47:18 | amiconn | Buschel: It's essentially the same |
22:47:24 | amiconn | answe |
22:47:25 | amiconn | r |
22:47:31 | Buschel | oops |
22:47:39 | * | Buschel again read too fast −− mea culpa |
22:47:52 | kugel | Llorean: But maybe I posted that "randomly" in the hope someone would correct my i.e. ;) |
22:48:01 | kugel | BigBambi: thanks |
22:48:06 | BigBambi | hehe :) |
22:48:21 | quest23 | ok...checked the md5 sum info for pacman.6e and it matches the one in the manual... |
22:48:40 | Llorean | quest23: You need to check all the files, not just one. |
22:48:48 | quest23 | k |
22:49:36 | saratoga | for a configure script, whats the command to tell it where to look for required header files? |
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22:51:06 | linuxstb_ | saratoga: Try "configure −−help" |
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22:52:15 | saratoga | linuxstb: I checked that, and the obvious −−includedur= option doesn't seem to be working |
22:52:21 | n1s | does checkwps define SIMULATOR ? |
22:52:21 | saratoga | so i assume i don't understand something |
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22:54:00 | linuxstb | n1s: It doesn't seem to. I can't recall if there was a reason for that... |
22:54:26 | BuXY95 | well, keep up the good work, make us some cooooool rockbox stuff :) |
22:54:27 | BuXY95 | bye |
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22:58:52 | n1s | linuxstb: well, that warning kugel posted is weird, i get it too if i build checkwps but not if i build a sim and imho it makes no sense |
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23:03:24 | linuxstb | n1s: No, I don't understand either. I don't think it can make a difference, but plugin_get_buffer is defined in checkwps.c - it doesn't use the core's version of that function. But the type is the same. |
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23:05:33 | Buschel | buschel thinks mpc's seeking code fails on large files right now as the seeking allocates 4byte per frame. the failing file has >137000 frames. before my cleaning up the allocated buffer size was truncated via uint16 (to about 7000 *4 bytes). |
23:05:44 | Buschel | needs some check... tomorrow |
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23:11:00 | n1s | I wonder who decided it was a good idea to translate the gcc output... Any tips on getting that back to English? |
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23:12:13 | Bagder | by setting LANG? |
23:12:25 | Bagder | or possibly unsetting it |
23:12:44 | bluebrother | make LANG=C |
23:12:49 | quest23 | ok...got all the right files for pacman now..one was wrong...replaced it...still no work..any ideas??? |
23:13:12 | bluebrother | if you don't want to unset your machines localization |
23:13:15 | n1s | Bagder: bluebrother: thanks |
23:13:21 | kugel | n1s: Regarding my tracker post? |
23:13:29 | n1s | kugel: yes |
23:13:48 | kugel | yea, I wondered that too, but then I remered that bluebrother once told me to do LANG=CC :) |
23:14:12 | kugel | remembered |
23:14:32 | bluebrother | most distros should have the setting in /etc/sysconfig/i18n or similar (unless that changed ... /me should update his outdated distro ;-) |
23:14:36 | n1s | kugel: do you only get warnings and a working checkwps? it errors out on a bunch of undeclared stuff and incomplete types |
23:15:09 | n1s | bluebrother: any idea where that is set for regular rockbox builds? |
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23:15:43 | bluebrother | n1s: LANG is a system setting, so the rockbox build system doesn't touch that. |
23:15:47 | kugel | n1s: it's compiling, but not working |
23:15:54 | kugel | get "WPS parsing failure" |
23:16:12 | kugel | I know it worked with that "fix" I mentioned in the tracker |
23:16:20 | n1s | bluebrother: but if i build a sim i get output in english, building checkwps the output is in Swedish... |
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23:16:46 | bluebrother | that's strange. |
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23:18:46 | quest23 | nevermind....got pacman working!!!!!!thanks n1s and Llorean for your help |
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23:19:47 | kugel | n1s: Have you tried "LANG=CC ./buildall.sh"? That works for me |
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23:20:26 | n1s | kugel: yes, that works but i wonder why a sim build does not need that |
23:20:55 | kugel | n1s: doesn't need what? |
23:21:12 | n1s | setting LANG to get english output |
23:21:24 | kugel | I'm not entirely sure, but afaik when I compile sim it's german too |
23:22:12 | bluebrother | kugel: it's LANG=C. Otherwise you'd set some unknown language (and thus default to english too) |
23:23:53 | kugel | bluebrother: I was pretty sure you said LANG=CC some time ago when I asked in the first place |
23:24:17 | kugel | But if LANG=C is better, then I'll use that of course :) |
23:24:25 | n1s | aha! the rockbox Makefile sets LANGUAGE=english and doing a 'LANGUAGE=english ./buildall.sh' does indeed give english output |
23:24:32 | bluebrother | then I either mistyped or you remembered wrong ;-) C is the default language, CC is usually the C compiler ;-) |
23:25:02 | bluebrother | Rockbox makefile does such stuff? Ouch. |
23:25:29 | n1s | bluebrother: i think that's a leftover from when you could select the default language when compiling |
23:25:37 | Bagder | exactly |
23:25:56 | bluebrother | we had such a thing? Can't remember ... |
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23:26:04 | Bagder | we did for quite some time |
23:26:42 | bluebrother | seems I never noticed. But I prefer to have my development machine running english anyway. |
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23:28:59 | Bagder | "removed the language choice, now always uses english built-in" 2 years, 4 months ago |
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23:30:22 | bluebrother | ah −− I think that's around the time I got involved. |
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23:32:58 | Bagder | it was introduced 5 years, 7 months ago |
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23:34:05 | n1s | hmm, checkwps thinks it has tagcache for some reason and that's why it fails to build here... |
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23:34:58 | kugel | n1s: it fails to build for you? |
23:35:27 | n1s | <n1s> kugel: do you only get warnings and a working checkwps? it errors out on a bunch of undeclared stuff and incomplete types |
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23:35:50 | kugel | oh sorry, I only read the first part :( |
23:36:04 | kugel | but it builds for me |
23:36:18 | kugel | but it doesn't work |
23:36:41 | n1s | does it work with the warning fix you put in the tracker task? |
23:36:58 | kugel | yes |
23:37:23 | * | kugel probably should've added that |
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23:39:35 | n1s | meh, a svn up solved the define problem... |
23:39:43 | kugel | wait, I just tried it again, and now it worked |
23:42:23 | kugel | n1s: So, it works. Not sure why I got "WPS parsing failure" before. I used the same wps |
23:42:35 | n1s | ok |
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23:43:33 | n1s | this looks like a gcc bug to me... |
23:50:25 | n1s | storing the result in a intptr_t and then casting that to (char*) does not give a warning... |
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23:52:48 | kugel | n1s: and why does not reproduce the error? |
23:53:05 | kugel | add "the sim" |
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