| 00:00:21 | * | Nico_P sometimes wishes he had time to get more involved in lowlevel code |
| 00:00:31 | etko | hi guys i have TEAC MP-380 which i alter identified as EM850RB, the chipset should be RK2606A do you have any info on this machine and whether it coul be supported? |
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| 00:03:34 | * | Bagder found the data sheet just now |
| 00:04:37 | Bagder | it seems to have no cpu core, only dsp |
| 00:06:48 | jhMikeS | This illustrates the sort of problem trivially (perhaps too trivially) where "foo" can end up "false" when it should be "true": http://pastebin.com/d78bc1c4d |
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| 00:10:14 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: the "if (foo)" check should be in the critical section, right? |
| 00:11:29 | jhMikeS | or a 2nd check inside it (double-check locking). |
| 00:11:57 | jhMikeS | the example is sort of broken but I hope the point got across |
| 00:13:29 | preglow | Nico_P: what kind of low-level code do you fancy? |
| 00:14:22 | Nico_P | preglow: I wouldn't know, but I've been introduced to VHDL and a teeny bit of ASM at school and I'm quite liking it |
| 00:14:50 | Bagder | http://www.mympxplayer.org/rockchip-rk2606a-datasheet-df626.html |
| 00:15:02 | Nico_P | our current project is to write a compiler with (optionally) 3 different target machines (TAM, x86 and SPARC) |
| 00:15:39 | Nico_P | I think TAM is just an in-house stack-based VM |
| 00:16:52 | * | jhMikeS expands his datasheet collection |
| 00:17:03 | Bagder | etko: so, I would think a port to that architecture is very much work, as I doubt you'll find a free compiler for it |
| 00:17:50 | Nico_P | preglow: DSP stuff sounds ike fun, but my math skills aren't the best |
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| 00:20:32 | jhMikeS | what instruction set is the Rockchip thing? their own? |
| 00:21:32 | Bagder | it doesn't seem to say |
| 00:21:53 | etko | thx badger can you point where can i more info about cpu/maybe disassembler? |
| 00:22:08 | Bagder | etko: there is no cpu core in that chip, only dsp |
| 00:22:20 | Bagder | etko: and I find no details at all on the dsp core |
| 00:22:31 | etko | i found that's based on something like zsp400 |
| 00:22:38 | etko | according to this post |
| 00:23:21 | Bagder | "The ZSP400 is a 16-bit fixed-point superscalar DSP core" ... |
| 00:23:40 | jhMikeS | the code example looks a bit like a SH+68K hybrid :\ |
| 00:23:43 | etko | http://www.mympxplayer.org/viewtopic.php?p=38499 |
| 00:24:05 | etko | chip is rk2606A |
| 00:24:18 | etko | i would just be glad to be able to dump bios :) |
| 00:24:21 | Bagder | http://www.bdti.com/procsum/zsp16xxx.htm <= zsp400 info |
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| 00:24:53 | etko | how does software of such thing look? it's just one huge binary blob which is stored in rom directly? |
| 00:25:24 | Bagder | etko: usually we get a firmware upgrade file and analyze that |
| 00:26:04 | etko | i can provide u with link on rapidshare psoted by somewhere else |
| 00:26:16 | etko | but i don't know whther it's cripted |
| 00:26:23 | etko | *crypted |
| 00:26:33 | Bagder | well I have no disassembler for zsp400 anyway |
| 00:27:27 | etko | http://rapidshare.com/files/49786276/TEM850RB_PCB1.4_002_1.7.17_new.rar.html |
| 00:27:50 | preglow | Nico_P: dsp is fun indeed, and math skills are nice to have, but not mandatory |
| 00:27:57 | etko | extracted it has rfw extension which seem fishy to me maybe some intermediate format? |
| 00:28:06 | etko | i burned it onto the player and it works |
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| 00:28:17 | Bagder | burned it? |
| 00:29:15 | Nico_P | preglow: well, I do have some. my major is CS and applied math. it's just that I'm far better at CS than at theoretical math. |
| 00:29:25 | preglow | ah, me too |
| 00:29:33 | jhMikeS | http://datasheet.digchip.com/267/267-00783-0-ZSP400.pdf <= instruction set details |
| 00:29:33 | preglow | the only reason i know some maths well is because of dsp :> |
| 00:29:54 | preglow | i pretty much require a practical reason to dive deeper into theoretical stuff, and dsp provided that |
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| 00:30:52 | etko | Bagder : when i said burned i meant uploaded it :) |
| 00:30:54 | Nico_P | yeah I think I work the same. I like math when I can "see it work", e.g I quite enjoy with matlab |
| 00:30:59 | * | Bagder finds a "Rockchip boot editor." ... "Program is all in Chinese with no English translation unfortunately." ... |
| 00:31:23 | GCTonyHawk7 | Hey, having some issues syncing my playlists (using MediaMonkey) to the Rockbox on my iPod 5G. |
| 00:33:27 | preglow | Bagder: i've got a feeling learning chinese isn't the most wasteful use of time you could indulge in these days... |
| 00:33:36 | Bagder | very true |
| 00:33:50 | preglow | i don't get the feeling it's a very easy language to learn, though |
| 00:34:20 | Nico_P | the people I know who tried enventually gave up |
| 00:34:57 | etko | Bagder : seems like the chinese version of this one after exraction |
| 00:34:59 | etko | http://www.mympxplayer.org/rockchip-logo-editing-logodiy-23-english-vt6928.html |
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| 00:35:28 | Bagder | yeah, that site has some rockchip goodies |
| 00:35:52 | Bagder | but not goodie enough to help us much, that I saw at least |
| 00:36:13 | Xqtftqx | Guys, whould it be possible for rockbox to see something like a usb thumb drive on the beast, with the adapter it comes with? |
| 00:36:45 | Llorean | Xqtftqx: This is called "USB Host". It would require someone to do a lot of work |
| 00:37:03 | Xqtftqx | Alright |
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| 00:38:44 | etko | badger lets say the firmware is just one flat file |
| 00:39:06 | etko | it should be possible to search ofr text at least shuouldn't it? |
| 00:39:16 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:39:31 | Bagder | but text can exist in various forms |
| 00:39:47 | Bagder | and the file really won't be "one flat file" |
| 00:40:41 | Bagder | but now I can't resist the force of my bed any longer, I'll be back here in 9 hours or so |
| 00:42:01 | etko | okay anyway thanks for info |
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| 00:42:17 | etko | all of you, seems like it futile to fiddle with my crappy mp3 |
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| 00:46:14 | x_ | Hey, does anyone know a firmware update I could use for a dell dj or a dj ditty? |
| 00:49:38 | x_ | Hello? |
| 00:49:49 | preglow | why the hell do you ask that here? |
| 00:49:55 | preglow | rockbox doesn't support any of those |
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| 01:21:45 | inigomontoya | hello, quick question, is rockbox capable of playing 24bit 96khz flac files without dithering? |
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| 01:32:16 | GCTonyHawk7 | Wow, is it normal for Rockbox to last about30 minutes on an iPod 5g (battery) |
| 01:35:37 | krazykit | no |
| 01:36:09 | GCTonyHawk7 | Seems like it is just drinking the battery like it's nothing. |
| 01:36:12 | krazykit | do you get better battery life from the apple firmware? are you using the latest build? |
| 01:36:31 | GCTonyHawk7 | Yes, using latest build, and better with the Apple firmware, ya. |
| 01:36:40 | krazykit | how much better? |
| 01:36:57 | GCTonyHawk7 | My battery is really weak, lasts about 1.5 hours on the Apple firmware. |
| 01:37:13 | krazykit | ah, then it's time to buy a new battery :) |
| 01:37:15 | GCTonyHawk7 | Well, I've never had it die... but it threatens a lot. |
| 01:37:48 | GCTonyHawk7 | Like, I just charged it, it was on the dock, and I was playing with Rockbox for about 15 minutes, and it says it is half full. |
| 01:38:25 | GCTonyHawk7 | Seems like the more options I turn off, the more glitch-free this thing is. |
| 01:38:41 | GCTonyHawk7 | I originally set them how I wanted, and it was awful. |
| 01:38:50 | GCTonyHawk7 | got REALLY slow and laggy, and crashed a lot. |
| 01:38:56 | pixelma | what says it's half full? |
| 01:39:02 | GCTonyHawk7 | I went through and turned most stuff off, and now it's decent. |
| 01:39:06 | GCTonyHawk7 | The battery level. |
| 01:39:32 | GCTonyHawk7 | Ugh, so far, Rockbox is a love-hate sort of thing. |
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| 01:39:47 | GCTonyHawk7 | If it would just work, I'd love it. |
| 01:40:00 | GCTonyHawk7 | But I've yet to use it for more than about 5 minutes without it messing up somehow. |
| 01:40:41 | GCTonyHawk7 | It is tempting just to go back to the Apple firmware, which I know works... but, I don't want to. |
| 01:40:52 | pixelma | do you mean the percentage (as a number)? |
| 01:40:52 | GCTonyHawk7 | Spent almost 10 hours setting this up, and to just go back would be sad. |
| 01:41:05 | GCTonyHawk7 | Ya. the little battery icon. |
| 01:41:18 | GCTonyHawk7 | And the time, went from 7.3 hours to 3.6 hours. |
| 01:41:25 | GCTonyHawk7 | In about 10-15 minutes. |
| 01:42:22 | pixelma | icon or number (in percent)? You can ignore the estimated runtime as it's not calibrated for the Ipods (I believe the manual mentions it somewhere too) |
| 01:42:36 | GCTonyHawk7 | Icon. |
| 01:42:44 | GCTonyHawk7 | There is no percent view, is there? |
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| 01:43:06 | pixelma | in the while playing screen or in the statusbar of the menus etc.? There is |
| 01:43:14 | GCTonyHawk7 | Ahhh, in the info, says 61% |
| 01:43:31 | pixelma | ok |
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| 01:46:02 | pixelma | I'm a bit curious. Why did it take you 10 hours to install Rockbox? Which instructions did you follow and what problems did you have? |
| 01:46:38 | GCTonyHawk7 | Just took a LOT of confirgutation. |
| 01:46:49 | GCTonyHawk7 | Spent a good 4 hours trying to get the skin the way I wanted. |
| 01:47:23 | GCTonyHawk7 | Spent around 3 hours trying to get all my music synced right. Had a hell of a time with the playlists. |
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| 01:47:55 | GCTonyHawk7 | Setting up the album art was a pain. Found a tool that will convert all the .jpgs into 100x100 BMPs. |
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| 01:48:55 | pixelma | alright, I thought you spent 10 hours just for installing Rockbox but seems it was more for configuring. |
| 01:49:35 | GCTonyHawk7 | Ya, installing was a sinch. |
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| 02:03:09 | saratoga | if your battery is that shot, the indicator in rockbox probably won't work too well |
| 02:03:45 | saratoga | the 50% mark is for a new-ish battery |
| 02:04:18 | GCTonyHawk7 | I see. |
| 02:04:25 | GCTonyHawk7 | I should look into replacements. |
| 02:04:39 | GCTonyHawk7 | All my batteries are shot. :P |
| 02:04:52 | GCTonyHawk7 | PSP, Nintendo DS, iPod. |
| 02:05:07 | GCTonyHawk7 | There's got to be a better way. |
| 02:05:40 | GCTonyHawk7 | Any way to change the charging screen with rockbox? |
| 02:06:08 | saratoga | i don't even think rockbox has a charging screen |
| 02:07:12 | GCTonyHawk7 | I'm looking at it. |
| 02:08:41 | pixelma | you're probably looking at Apple's disk mode screen |
| 02:08:41 | GCTonyHawk7 | http://zeldalinks.net/hosted/justin/Temp/cimg8875.jpg |
| 02:09:05 | GCTonyHawk7 | Nope, the Apple one looks different. |
| 02:09:42 | saratoga | you're in the apple firmware i think |
| 02:09:53 | GCTonyHawk7 | Nope. |
| 02:10:01 | GCTonyHawk7 | That's with Rockbox. |
| 02:10:02 | pixelma | that's the "emergency" disk mode of Apple |
| 02:10:14 | GCTonyHawk7 | Odd. |
| 02:10:24 | GCTonyHawk7 | What does Rockbox look like while charging? |
| 02:10:35 | saratoga | normal |
| 02:11:30 | saratoga | yeah that picture is the same as the one on the Apple website, so its definately not rockbox |
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| 02:49:42 | Dhraakellian | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SandiskE200BatteryMeasurements says that the battery benchmark plugin needs to be patched to work on the e200. Is that still the case? |
| 02:50:40 | * | Dhraakellian is thinking of doing some battery runtime measurements just for fun/curiosity |
| 02:53:48 | Dhraakellian | and 'cause, hey, I can always use a Bruckner binge or two with all 10 symphonies on repeat in various formats and such |
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| 02:59:03 | csc` | yeah |
| 02:59:04 | csc` | that is apples |
| 02:59:14 | csc` | apple's emergency mode is super simplistic |
| 02:59:37 | Dhraakellian | ? |
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| 03:05:02 | saratoga | Dhraakellian: it was at one point, i'm not sure if it still is |
| 03:05:09 | saratoga | did the patch it mentions get accepted? |
| 03:07:00 | Dhraakellian | I don't see the FS# in http://www.rockbox.org/since-12months.html |
| 03:07:33 | Dhraakellian | 2008-04-11: A task closure has been requested. Reason for request: i think, that my batt_bench_v3 patch solves problem and also improves working under other (hdd based too) devices |
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| 03:09:19 | saratoga | sounds like its not needed then |
| 03:09:28 | saratoga | if it works without the patch,m would you mind editing the wiki? |
| 03:10:11 | Dhraakellian | so, let's see... reset settings, charge overnight, disconnect, start battery bench plugin, load playlist, set it going, turn on hold, sit back and enjoy the towering cathedrals of sound? |
| 03:10:26 | Dhraakellian | any changes in order? |
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| 03:11:30 | Dhraakellian | I'm thinking that I'll do q6 Vorbis (aoTuVb5, if that matters) and q8 Vorbis |
| 03:11:49 | Dhraakellian | since I already have copies with those encodings |
| 03:12:19 | Dhraakellian | and then dig up the archived FLACs and test lame V2 and V0 so that I can compare with the OF |
| 03:12:32 | Dhraakellian | ...assuming I don't get bored |
| 03:12:58 | saratoga | whats the OF give you? |
| 03:13:10 | advcomp2019 | saratoga, i had a few issues with the battery benchmark but it was random tho |
| 03:13:38 | Dhraakellian | saratoga: dunno. haven't tested it. |
| 03:14:09 | Dhraakellian | saratoga: I'm just curious |
| 03:14:22 | saratoga | if you do test it make sure to update the wiki |
| 03:14:31 | saratoga | i'd like to know |
| 03:16:24 | saratoga | same for the ipod nano, i'm curious if Apple really does get the runtime they claim off that tiny battery |
| 03:17:12 | Dhraakellian | I'm guessing that the Rockbox measurements will be much easier than the OF measurements, given that I won't need to worry about accidentally missing the cutoff if I'm not awake |
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| 03:40:57 | GCTonyHawk7 | Hey, got a quick question. |
| 03:41:06 | GCTonyHawk7 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12742.msg96330#msg96330 |
| 03:41:29 | GCTonyHawk7 | Looking at getting that, and not sure which to download. I've got a 30GB ipod 5G. |
| 03:42:09 | saratoga | we don't really cover the unsupported builds here |
| 03:42:14 | saratoga | ask the guy who compiled it |
| 03:42:20 | GCTonyHawk7 | :-\ |
| 03:42:36 | saratoga | though in general you can always use 32MB builds on any ipod, unless the build has something screwy with it |
| 03:42:41 | GCTonyHawk7 | Why is the supported build so... basic? |
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| 03:43:05 | saratoga | theres nothing basic about it |
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| 03:43:20 | GCTonyHawk7 | Well, I guess my biggest issue with it is the skins. |
| 03:43:28 | GCTonyHawk7 | And it doesn't do album art, correct? |
| 03:44:53 | * | Dhraakellian should look for a quick-and-easy album art converter/resizer for linux |
| 03:45:14 | Dhraakellian | since I don't think I ever got that amarok script from kde-apps to work |
| 03:46:04 | Dhraakellian | on the other hand, plaintext doesn't really have room for album art, so *shrug* |
| 03:46:15 | saratoga | the SVN version does album art |
| 03:46:29 | GCTonyHawk7 | SVN Version? |
| 03:46:53 | saratoga | whats in SVN is the official rockbox |
| 03:47:19 | GCTonyHawk7 | Ahhh, so using the installer tool thing, I'd have the SVN? |
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| 03:49:00 | GCTonyHawk7 | Maybe instead of complaing about the custom builds and complaining about the official build's theme, I should just make a custom theme for the official build. :P |
| 03:52:12 | krazykit | using rbutil, you should have the latest SVN version, which should give you the orange and black cabbie v2 WPS |
| 03:52:53 | GCTonyHawk7 | I could just modify that theme by changing all the images. |
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| 04:10:16 | Dhraakellian | hmm... for the battery benchmark, should I reenable scrobbling after resetting the config to defaults? |
| 04:10:38 | saratoga | on the sansa i don't think it will matter |
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| 04:22:52 | Dhraakellian | given the flash-based storage, yeah |
| 04:22:59 | Dhraakellian | should I still make note of it? |
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| 04:25:26 | Dhraakellian | yarr, and I forgot how annoying that wheel light can be |
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| 05:21:45 | totalanni | is there a way to swap the bootloader around |
| 05:21:56 | totalanni | so that rockbox loads when the lock is on |
| 05:22:01 | totalanni | and apple loads when it isnt? |
| 05:22:13 | Llorean | If you compile your own, sure. |
| 05:22:21 | totalanni | ic |
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| 06:12:05 | saratoga | anyone know where VOLUME_MIN gets defined for the Sim? |
| 06:12:09 | saratoga | i'm not seeing it anywhere |
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| 06:16:58 | JdGordon|uni | simulator/sound.c? |
| 06:17:04 | JdGordon|uni | or maybe it takes te values from the simed target? |
| 06:17:54 | saratoga | JdGordon|uni: grep says no |
| 06:18:07 | saratoga | firmware/sound.c requires it to be defined though |
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| 06:21:28 | saratoga | looks like it does get it from the target hardware |
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| 06:23:59 | JdGordon|uni | doesnt it just warn if its not defined? |
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| 07:11:46 | ball | Can I add a mic to an iPod mini via the dock connector? |
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| 07:14:23 | DerPapst | iirc the minis don'T supportrecording hardware wise |
| 07:15:50 | ball | DerPapst: thanks. That makes me glad I didn't buy the mic today ;-)) |
| 07:16:05 | DerPapst | :) |
| 07:16:34 | ball | Oh well. I'll have to grep eBay for a Walkman Pro (or something) |
| 07:16:49 | Dhraakellian | wait for woot.com to have a sansa e200 |
| 07:16:53 | Dhraakellian | I'm not joking |
| 07:17:06 | Dhraakellian | well, or just find a good deal for one elsewhere |
| 07:17:21 | * | Dhraakellian is *very* satisfied with his refurb e200 |
| 07:17:29 | ball | I won't buy SanDisk again ...not without something really surprising happening. |
| 07:17:48 | Dhraakellian | hehheh |
| 07:18:03 | Dhraakellian | yeah... I gather they're either really good and solid... or really not |
| 07:18:20 | Dhraakellian | so far (1 month or so) mine seems to be the former |
| 07:18:20 | ball | My m250 bricked |
| 07:18:32 | ball | eventually got it replaced, but learned to be wary of Sandisk |
| 07:19:00 | Dhraakellian | I <3 my e260 |
| 07:19:14 | Dhraakellian | the e200 line seems to be pretty good |
| 07:19:38 | Dhraakellian | but one needs to be sure to get one with the old v1 hardware rather than the newer revisions |
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| 07:19:54 | Dhraakellian | (unless, y'know, they actually want to work on the rockbox port for the v2 hardware) |
| 07:21:39 | ball | I had no idea rockbox worked on any Sandisk hardware |
| 07:22:28 | ball | Anyway, primarily I need something that can record audio |
| 07:22:38 | ball | If it works with decent microphones, so much the better. |
| 07:22:40 | advcomp2019 | ball, yea rockbox works on the e200v1 and c200v1 |
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| 07:24:30 | Dhraakellian | ball: and the e200 does have a voice recorder |
| 07:24:52 | Dhraakellian | although I probably should've been sitting a few rows farther up when trying to record lectures |
| 07:24:53 | advcomp2019 | the c200 does too |
| 07:25:06 | Dhraakellian | advcomp2019: I was speaking from experience and didn't remember |
| 07:25:15 | Llorean | The e200 and c200 don't have decent recording quality though |
| 07:25:17 | Llorean | Their hardware is limited. |
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| 07:25:32 | ball | My new m250 can record voice memos, but it's 8 kHz and can't use an external mic |
| 07:25:41 | Dhraakellian | Llorean: the actual mic, you mean? |
| 07:25:54 | Llorean | Dhraakellian: No, internally. |
| 07:25:58 | Dhraakellian | I think the e200 is 22kHz |
| 07:26:04 | Dhraakellian | Llorean: codec-wise? |
| 07:26:28 | Llorean | Depends on whether you mean codec as "the piece of hardware referred to as a codec" or "the software that encodes the audio" |
| 07:26:29 | Dhraakellian | e200 OF encodes to WAV (ew! for voice... rockbox's mp3 is nicer) |
| 07:26:40 | Llorean | The OF doesn't matter |
| 07:27:00 | Dhraakellian | c200 encodes it to wma in OF |
| 07:27:02 | Dhraakellian | iirc |
| 07:27:04 | Llorean | Rockbox can encode to WAV, low quality MP3 (the codec is somewhat optimized for speed over quality) or wavpack. |
| 07:27:12 | Llorean | Dhraakellian: The OF does not matter here. This is #Rockbox |
| 07:27:19 | Dhraakellian | Llorean: yeah |
| 07:27:33 | Llorean | Well, I shouldn't have had to say it twice. Please see the channel guidelines. |
| 07:27:39 | ball | I would prefer wav to mp3 |
| 07:27:47 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 07:27:52 | ball | (would prefer .au to either ;-) |
| 07:28:52 | Dhraakellian | I was just celebrating how much nicer rockbox was? |
| 07:28:52 | Llorean | The e200 and c200 hardware are restricted to 22khz though, so they don't make good targets. Though if you're doing something that's suitable for .au, I guess low sample rates wouldn't matter much. |
| 07:29:04 | Dhraakellian | oslt |
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| 07:29:24 | Dhraakellian | yeah, for just recording voice, low-bitrate mp3 would be sufficient, I'd think |
| 07:29:40 | Dhraakellian | what would be the optimal settings for it though? |
| 07:30:23 | ball | Depends what you intend to do with the voice afterwards though |
| 07:30:31 | Llorean | If you're looking for higher quality, the H100 series is better if you need a wider range of gain settings, or if you think you may ever want to record from digital input. The iAudios we support have the potential for higher sample rates than 44.1khz though (though the feature is not offered yet) |
| 07:30:36 | ball | MP3 involves lossy compression, so it's not great for mastering |
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| 07:31:27 | Dhraakellian | ball: just reviewing lectures and such |
| 07:31:51 | Dhraakellian | would speex encoding be possible on the fly? |
| 07:32:30 | Llorean | If someone optimized the codec enough |
| 07:32:55 | Dhraakellian | too slow currently for the hardware on which rockbox tends to run, then? |
| 07:33:16 | Llorean | There is no currently |
| 07:33:35 | ball | On hardware with a mic input, does Rockbox support uncompressed audio recording? |
| 07:33:39 | Llorean | It's not as simple as just throwing it on there and testing how close to realtime it is. |
| 07:33:46 | Llorean | ball: As I said, it supports wav and wavpack |
| 07:33:55 | ball | Llorean: thanks. |
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| 08:02:17 | amiconn | Llorean: The coldfire irivers (IDA1380) do not support higher recording sample rates than 44.1 kHz. They support 88.2kHz for playback only. The iaudios (TLV320) support 88.2kHz for both recording and playback |
| 08:03:46 | amiconn | On iaudios, 88.2kHz are actually supported for recording in rockbox |
| 08:05:12 | Llorean | amiconn: Oh, I thought it wasn't offered yet. |
| 08:05:20 | Llorean | Must only be playback then. Sorry. |
| 08:08:56 | amiconn | Still better than the 22.05kHz on the Sansas. :) Iirc jhMikeS had an idea how to extend this to 32kHz, but I don't know the details |
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| 08:09:55 | amiconn | s/pdif recording on H1x0 supports all standard sample rates from 8kHz up to 96kHz btw |
| 08:10:42 | Llorean | amiconn: If I recall he simply wanted to overclock something. |
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| 08:11:02 | Llorean | I knew about the s/pdif, actually. I just forgot to mention that one. I've made use of it before. :) |
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| 08:16:26 | Haos32 | Did somebody make RockBox for ZSP400 architecture? |
| 08:16:39 | JdGordon | not yet |
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| 08:23:26 | JdGordon | Nico_P|school: linuxstb_: had a chance to look at the cond viewports patch yet? |
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| 09:04:29 | Nico_P|school | JdGordon: sorry, no |
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| 09:28:15 | B4gder | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17006.0 my favourite kind of post |
| 09:29:02 | linuxstb | B4gder: Wonderful.... |
| 09:29:41 | Nico_P|school | hahaha awesome :p |
| 09:29:52 | JdGordon | I wouldnt go that far :p |
| 09:30:05 | B4gder | I wouldn't even know what to reply so I'll shutup |
| 09:30:19 | Nico_P|school | at least the rockbox forums are a good place to ask such a question... and he even got the subforum right |
| 09:30:24 | * | scorche|sh writes something down |
| 09:30:56 | * | Nico_P|school is tempted to answer something along the lines of "a bag of shit" |
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| 09:41:51 | Llorean | Technically speaking, the only guideline he violated was "Search first." |
| 09:42:06 | Llorean | He named his player, he elucidated all necessary details to diagnose his problem, and his topic was even accurate. :) |
| 09:42:47 | Nico_P|school | isn't there a guideline against all-caps titles with vastly redundant punctuation? |
| 09:43:01 | Llorean | Oddly enough, strictly speaking, no. |
| 09:43:14 | Llorean | I think all guidelines like that relate to post content. |
| 09:43:27 | Llorean | One could abstract it to topics, I suppose. |
| 09:43:54 | scorche | Llorean: i didnt say he violated them ;) ...i would call caps on the topic though |
| 09:45:05 | Llorean | Ah well, shows Woot is bringing in interest |
| 09:45:24 | Llorean | Do we know what hardware's in the m200v1? |
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| 09:45:33 | scorche | TCC, me thinks |
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| 09:46:34 | B4gder | yeps |
| 09:46:39 | B4gder | TCC770 iirc |
| 09:46:44 | Llorean | So, $10 potential target at woot. |
| 09:46:51 | Llorean | that may be a new record for low price? |
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| 09:47:36 | scorche | do any euros want to get in on it so i can pay $5 shipping for 3 devices (or 10 for 6) and bring some to DCE? |
| 09:49:11 | B4gder | scorche: I'm in for one |
| 09:50:05 | Llorean | And if they're v2s, they're that AMS chip we're also interested in, right? |
| 09:50:08 | scorche | hell, at $10 a piece, i can bring a bunch to DCE and hand them out for...what is 10USD worth these days...1 euro? =P |
| 09:50:22 | B4gder | Llorean: yes, although at that price I doubt they're v2s |
| 09:50:44 | B4gder | scorche: about the price of a stamp I believe :-P |
| 09:51:22 | Llorean | Yeah, it seems pretty unlikely |
| 09:51:32 | Llorean | It kinda looks like Woot just got its hands on *all* the left over v1s |
| 09:51:53 | scorche | well, i cna bring 5 for devs, i suppose |
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| 09:51:57 | SgtPnkks | i bought an m240 from woot not too long ago for the same price... v2 |
| 09:52:05 | B4gder | aha |
| 09:52:16 | B4gder | well, I wouldn't mind a v2 either |
| 09:52:20 | Llorean | Well, v2 is more interesting anyway, isn't it a quite fast processor? |
| 09:52:20 | scorche | exactly |
| 09:52:40 | B4gder | v2 would open for more existing targets |
| 09:52:57 | Llorean | Yes |
| 09:53:13 | scorche | right...so i suppose i shall be bringing 5 of them for whoever wants them at DCE |
| 09:53:39 | petur | good idea |
| 09:53:40 | Llorean | I'll bring two more. So first 7 random devs we bump into get one. |
| 09:53:49 | B4gder | hehe |
| 09:53:59 | Llorean | And if too many people turn them down, well, I've got friend back here who wouldn't mind something they can jog with |
| 09:54:00 | scorche | pfft...competition?! |
| 09:54:16 | Llorean | Alright, best Tower of Rockbox gets one of 'em? |
| 09:54:21 | B4gder | oh no, no arm wrestling coming to the main land! |
| 09:54:22 | Llorean | Judged not by size, but by style, voted by acclimation. |
| 09:54:40 | Llorean | acclamation even |
| 09:54:43 | LinusN | he who can throw it the longest gets it |
| 09:54:49 | Llorean | hahaha |
| 09:55:01 | scorche | LinusN: and have it still work! |
| 09:55:09 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:55:55 | * | scorche thinks his bags are going to be nice and full for the eurotrip |
| 09:56:08 | * | scorche thinks he might not bring his soldering station... |
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| 09:56:40 | Llorean | Last time I went through, with only about half of the stuff I'd be bringing, they ran my bag back into the X-Ray, called for a second opinion, and spent about 5 minutes trying to decide whether or not to hand search it. |
| 09:56:55 | petur | scorche: I'll bring mine... |
| 09:58:25 | petur | is automatic install for c240 supposed to work? |
| 09:59:03 | Llorean | Yes |
| 09:59:05 | * | scorche orders 3 and will bug his dad to buy 3 on his account to tomorrow |
| 09:59:09 | Llorean | Failed to detect, or failed to install? |
| 09:59:16 | petur | failed to detect |
| 09:59:20 | Llorean | Sure it's in MSC mode? |
| 09:59:54 | petur | no idea, a coworker reported it, I can have a play with it at noon. He did install manually already |
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| 10:00:01 | * | scorche used a few devices on the road today during travelling and is getting quite pissed off about playback bugs |
| 10:00:03 | petur | (and likes it a lot) |
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| 10:00:12 | Llorean | It worked fine on my c250. |
| 10:00:42 | Llorean | scorche: Which ones? |
| 10:00:43 | petur | he was very happy to discover he suddenly had a radio :) |
| 10:00:45 | Llorean | Bugs, not devices. |
| 10:02:10 | scorche | couldnt reproduce any of the bugs, but it just skips a few songs (including having the incorrect - the one it played - next song in the next track tag) and then fails to load the ID3 for the next...then when i go back, it will skip a couple back and then play things correctly |
| 10:02:14 | scorche | really odd and annoying |
| 10:02:41 | Llorean | have you been skipping, or did it happen when left on its own? |
| 10:02:47 | scorche | left on its own |
| 10:02:58 | scorche | although i think skipping was involved too |
| 10:03:20 | scorche | happened on my sansa, gigabeat, and H120 in unreproducible manners |
| 10:03:33 | Llorean | Strange. |
| 10:03:48 | Llorean | I know there's some strangeness with playback when skipping, but I haven't seen it when left absolutely alone |
| 10:04:24 | Llorean | I can't reproduce the skipping behaviour reliably yet beyond "skip forward, and it will eventually happen, seems to happen more if your skip triggers a spinup" |
| 10:05:12 | scorche | i seem to remember at least once where it was left alone (at least i think so...) |
| 10:05:23 | Llorean | Maybe it's getting worse. =/ |
| 10:05:54 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Looking at your viewports patch, one line jumps out as being wrong - "if (letter < 'a' || letter > ('a' + WPS_MAX_VIEWPORTS))" in wps_parser.c (> should be >=, or subtract 1). Plus, shouldn't "letter" be called "label" to be consistent with the other parts of the code? Also, why limit the labels to the number of viewports - just allowing a-z might be nicer for a user (and easier to document). |
| 10:06:05 | scorche | good...hopefully it can mutate into a reproducible manner =P |
| 10:06:53 | petur | Llorean: re the c240 detection, he said it showed up as two disks when he attached it... I'll try at noon myself... |
| 10:07:05 | JdGordon | linuxstb: hmm, forgot to change that.. yes it was limited before because the viewport index was actually stored as that tokens data, but now its stored as a letter its fine |
| 10:07:06 | scorche | Llorean: when i got my H120 and loaded a new build on it, i originally thought it was worse on that platform, but it did have a massively newer rev |
| 10:08:16 | JdGordon | linuxstb: I'll fix it to be able to use uppercase also... but the user needs to remember he only has 16 viewports to play with anyway |
| 10:09:14 | Llorean | petur: That means it was in MSC mode. Strange. |
| 10:09:33 | Llorean | scorche: I've only got experience with it in Gigabeat so far. |
| 10:10:29 | scorche | Llorean: it is definitely on other targets |
| 10:10:41 | scorche | likely swcodec-wide |
| 10:10:45 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I'm not sure there's a need for uppercase as well... |
| 10:11:18 | Llorean | scorche: I didn't mean to suggest it wasn't. Just meant I hadn't done much testing on other targets |
| 10:11:22 | JdGordon | oh, ok then |
| 10:11:27 | * | scorche nods |
| 10:12:25 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Also, what about using %Vd (for "display" - consistent with %xd) instead of "enable" ? |
| 10:12:36 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 10:14:19 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Also.... In the main display loop in gwps_common, you have this check in the "else" part, which I think isn't needed - "(data->viewports[v].hidden_flags&VP_DRAW_HIDDEN) == 0)". |
| 10:16:12 | JdGordon | hmm.. I tihnk your right there... |
| 10:16:33 | JdGordon | oh, while your looking at that code... shouldnt the loop to disable the images be outside the viewport loop? |
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| 10:19:42 | JdGordon | dinner time |
| 10:20:34 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I'm not sure about that image loop. Maybe it should be inside the viewports loop to allow the same images to be used in multiple viewports... |
| 10:26:01 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Also, (this is just a personal preference), but I don't like the logic of the "called_refresh_mode" variable. I would reverse it, and create a new variable called "vp_refresh_mode", which stores the refresh mode for the current viewport being processed (defaulting to refresh_mode). IMO, it's then clearer in the code that "vo_refresh_mode" is something that relates to the current viewport. |
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| 11:16:20 | ReKleSS | if I were to build a BDM interface, how much work would it be to reflash my H120? |
| 11:18:43 | * | linuxstb pings LinusN for ReKleSS |
| 11:19:35 | LinusN | which bdm interface would you build? |
| 11:19:54 | ReKleSS | the TBLCF one looks manageable |
| 11:20:05 | LinusN | url? |
| 11:20:14 | ReKleSS | http://forums.freescale.com/freescale/board/message?board.id=CFCOMM&thread.id=624 |
| 11:20:29 | LinusN | ah that one |
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| 11:22:44 | ReKleSS | btw, I emailed you about fixing my H120 after a stupid flashing incident... |
| 11:23:30 | LinusN | ReKleSS: ah, so you are Jeremy? |
| 11:23:46 | ReKleSS | yes |
| 11:24:30 | LinusN | i have been in touch with the creator of the tblcf regarding the gdb port |
| 11:24:49 | ReKleSS | http://bdm.sourceforge.net/index.html <−− ? |
| 11:25:35 | LinusN | ReKleSS: nice, i wasn't aware of that, it's been almost a year since i spoke to him |
| 11:26:23 | LinusN | ReKleSS: i have written a tool for that bdm package that reflashes a h120 |
| 11:27:14 | ReKleSS | so I'd just have to build the bdm module? |
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| 11:28:44 | ReKleSS | also, the flash chip is the 16mbit BGA thing? |
| 11:30:46 | LinusN | yes |
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| 11:42:47 | LinusN | ouch, MC68HC908JB16 wasn't that easy to come by in sweden |
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| 11:55:51 | ReKleSS | ok... where are the bdm ports on the board? |
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| 12:11:17 | LinusN | ReKleSS: the bdm port is on the side, the unmounted zif connector |
| 12:12:37 | ReKleSS | LinusN: just below the LCD? |
| 12:13:42 | LinusN | yez |
| 12:14:06 | ReKleSS | urgh |
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| 12:20:44 | ReKleSS | ok, I don't think I'm up to this, the spacing is too tight |
| 12:22:08 | LinusN | ReKleSS: i'll try fire up my bdm and let you know when it's ready |
| 12:22:36 | ReKleSS | ok, thanks |
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| 12:34:09 | zeno | whats a mp3 player that 1. runs rockbox, 2. has minisdhc/sdhc card slot 3. is cheap |
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| 12:34:35 | JdGordon | e200/c200 |
| 12:34:40 | linuxstb | The old (v1) versions of the Sansa C2x0/E3x0 |
| 12:34:40 | zeno | thanks :) |
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| 12:35:33 | zeno | selling my 4 year old iriver for 200 lol |
| 12:35:49 | JdGordon | which iriver? |
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| 12:47:38 | zeno | JdGordon: h300, im looking at the sansa ones and it looks like they just take microsd, not SDHC right? |
| 12:47:48 | zeno | i have a lot of music so i need the 8GB :) |
| 12:47:55 | JdGordon | it will take a micro SDHC |
| 12:48:06 | zeno | really? nice thanks |
| 12:48:15 | zeno | ill buy one tonite :) |
| 12:48:26 | zeno | btw is rockbox based upon linux? |
| 12:48:26 | JdGordon | and yeah, thats a great change.. I went h300 to e200 also.. lovd it :) |
| 12:48:31 | JdGordon | no |
| 12:48:45 | zeno | ah ok, what is it then? just firmware? |
| 12:48:55 | JdGordon | _just_ ? |
| 12:49:10 | JdGordon | it will start making coffee from version 4 |
| 12:49:12 | zeno | dont mean that in a bad way :) |
| 12:49:21 | zeno | e.g. is there a good UI? |
| 12:49:30 | * | PaulJam wouldn't change his h300 for an e200 |
| 12:49:51 | B4gder | zeno: rockbox is both os and apps |
| 12:49:51 | JdGordon | rockbox is the drivers, the OS, the GUI, the everything (except usb for the moment) |
| 12:50:31 | zeno | PaulJam: 1. the h300 sucks for running cause its not flash, 2. im getting 200 for it |
| 12:50:48 | zeno | ok B4gderthanks |
| 12:50:54 | advcomp2019 | zeno, be careful of the v2s if you are going to look in stores |
| 12:51:21 | JdGordon | zeno: stick a 32gb CF in it and its flash... |
| 12:54:18 | zeno | JdGordon: didnt know it had a CF slot ill look into that |
| 12:54:38 | JdGordon | it doesnt... |
| 12:54:43 | JdGordon | you get a CF card, and an adaptor |
| 12:55:18 | crash91 | zeno: If you see anything on the packaging mentioning "Audible support" then its a v2 and wont run Rockbox. |
| 12:55:47 | B4gder | or its a refurbished with a misleading label |
| 12:56:14 | B4gder | (this has happened to more than one user) |
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| 12:58:00 | zeno | the e280 are CF, but i guess rockbox wont run :\ |
| 12:58:26 | advcomp2019 | the e280 should work if it is a v1 |
| 12:58:36 | B4gder | but it doesn't take CF |
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| 13:02:15 | zeno | what does? (thats cheap) |
| 13:02:49 | B4gder | I doubt anything "modern" does. Or am I wrong? |
| 13:03:00 | JdGordon | the e280 + a 8gb micro SD is probably the best if you want a flash target |
| 13:03:29 | * | LinusN ordered the parts to build a TBLCF BDM adapter |
| 13:03:56 | B4gder | or a D2, work on the port, and get a 16GB SD |
| 13:04:11 | B4gder | even get a 16GB D2 |
| 13:04:18 | B4gder | gives you 32 fresh GB |
| 13:04:26 | JdGordon | but a touchscreen... |
| 13:04:26 | B4gder | and a port to work on, as a bonus! |
| 13:04:27 | zeno | B4gder: nice |
| 13:06:24 | zeno | B4gder: no sound output though :( http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonD2Info |
| 13:06:43 | B4gder | "and a port to work on, as a bonus!" |
| 13:07:11 | B4gder | there's more left than just sound on that port |
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| 13:08:21 | zeno | yeah id probably work on it :) |
| 13:08:39 | zeno | would be my first driver work |
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| 13:16:07 | B4gder | the directory formerly known as /iriver on the web server is now known as download.rockbox.org/device-pictures/iriver |
| 13:16:26 | B4gder | once they're synced at least |
| 13:18:23 | B4gder | 158MB of hires scans |
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| 13:30:23 | zeno | B4gder: i think im getting a d2, and 4 16GB sdhcs :) |
| 13:30:45 | zeno | is the firmware in C? i know some of that but 0 assembly |
| 13:32:26 | JdGordon | C and a bit of asm |
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| 13:41:36 | B4gder | ansic: 585284 (92.87%) |
| 13:41:41 | B4gder | asm: 15602 (2.48%) |
| 13:41:46 | B4gder | sh: 13969 (2.22%) |
| 13:42:13 | B4gder | hm, some build dirs included in that count messes it up somewhat |
| 13:42:27 | B4gder | the number would be lines of code |
| 13:43:12 | B4gder | ansic: 483497 (91.50%) |
| 13:43:12 | B4gder | asm: 15602 (2.95%) |
| 13:43:12 | B4gder | sh: 13969 (2.64%) |
| 13:43:22 | B4gder | there, the real numbers |
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| 13:44:34 | JdGordon | kicked pixelma instead :p |
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| 14:19:37 | zeno | its good you can dual boot so i can work on firmware, and still have it be usable |
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| 15:07:47 | linuxstb | Not really. I haven't tested it, but I like the idea - I think it's a nice way to make viewports fully conditional. |
| 15:08:32 | linuxstb | Or rather, not fully conditional (that would mean making the viewport parameters configurable via conditions), rather that any condition can be used to control them. |
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| 16:55:58 | krz | hi all! |
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| 16:56:24 | krz | Nico_P: hi! |
| 16:57:14 | gevaerts | Hi krz |
| 16:58:38 | krz | has anyone seen domonoky? =) |
| 16:59:20 | B4gder | he signed off 3 days and 4 hours ago |
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| 17:00:07 | gevaerts | I assume he went away for the weekend |
| 17:00:30 | krz | ah |
| 17:01:01 | krz | as you saw i was absent rather long and couldn't contact via irc |
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| 17:13:50 | gevaerts | krz: yes indeed, but domonoky told us that you had a valid excuse ;) I hope you're better now |
| 17:16:03 | zeno | markun: ill try im new to writing drivers though |
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| 17:17:32 | zeno | im getting a cowen d2, id try to get sound support |
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| 17:27:04 | zeno | would http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855228012 be able to play mp3 lame v0? |
| 17:27:56 | B4gder | v0? |
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| 17:29:18 | B4gder | that's an iAudio 7 => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonIaudio7Info |
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| 17:45:19 | zeno | v0 is VBR mp3 at around 256kbps |
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| 17:46:22 | zeno | im probably going with d2 actually |
| 17:47:25 | B4gder | I would assume all targets can play 256kbit mp3 |
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| 17:48:59 | crash91 | Meh, $189 for that? |
| 17:50:16 | mcuelenaere | how advanced is touchscreen support in Rockbox currently? |
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| 17:51:07 | Dhraakellian | should I enable replaygain in a battery test? |
| 17:51:37 | gevaerts | That depends on what you want to use the results for |
| 17:52:26 | * | gevaerts guesses that replaygain doesn't make much difference though |
| 17:52:59 | Dhraakellian | and could mean that I wouldn't have to fiddle with the volume manually and thus activate the LCD |
| 17:53:22 | Dhraakellian | although volume would have an effect on battery life, wouldn't it? |
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| 17:54:18 | * | gevaerts doesn't really know |
| 17:54:42 | Dhraakellian | meh... it's all a single symphony cycle... it should be mixed at pretty much the same volume, I'd think |
| 17:55:11 | * | Dhraakellian fires up kid3 just to check out of curiosity |
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| 17:58:18 | Dhraakellian | hmm... album gain varies between +2.31dB and -4.51dB |
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| 17:58:23 | Dhraakellian | I'll survive |
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| 19:32:56 | Haos32 | Where can I find C compiler for iriver players? |
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| 19:33:40 | PaulJam | Haos32: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers |
| 19:34:20 | domonoky | Haos32: use the rockboxdev.sh script.. :-) |
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| 19:35:04 | Haos32 | domonoky: thank you! |
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| 19:35:52 | bertrik | I built the arm-elf-gcc toolchain using the rockboxdev script under ubuntu 8.04, but I'm getting a lot of warnings about pointer targets differing in signedness |
| 19:36:09 | bertrik | anyone else have that too? |
| 19:36:36 | bertrik | I get the warning when building rockbox (not when building the toolchain) |
| 19:37:23 | n1s | bertrik: did you run configure afterwards? |
| 19:37:58 | bertrik | yes |
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| 19:38:30 | n1s | we use -Wno-pointer-sign on all gcc 4.x build so you should have that in your makefile unless configure was unable to determine your gcc version |
| 19:38:43 | PaulJam | bertrik: btw, thanks for fixing the panic so quickly. |
| 19:40:28 | bertrik | PaulJam: thank you for finally making the problem reproducible :P |
| 19:42:06 | bertrik | n1s: can't find that option in the Makefile, I think I'll run configure again, maybe I missed something |
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| 19:42:53 | n1s | bertrik: the "export GCCVER" line in the Makefile should reveal what configure thinks you have |
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| 19:45:17 | bertrik | n1s: sorry to bother you, it works now after removing/recreating the build directory and running configure again. Maybe I initially ran the configure script when the path to the arm-elf toolchain was not properly set up yet. |
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| 19:46:09 | bertrik | GCCOPTS now does indeed include the -Wno-pointer-sign option |
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| 19:58:31 | wpyh | anyone hacking the meizu players here? |
| 19:58:59 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/04/20/d2-vs-m6-given-a-few-days-use/ |
| 19:59:06 | wpyh | ok |
| 19:59:06 | * | Bagder aways |
| 19:59:20 | wpyh | i didn't see a DFU tool for the meizu on Linux |
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| 19:59:31 | wpyh | so I tried running it under QEMU |
| 19:59:32 | wpyh | :D |
| 19:59:42 | wpyh | and it crashed when starting the firmware download |
| 19:59:45 | wpyh | any ideas? |
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| 20:01:37 | wpyh | I mean I got tired of waiting for a DFU Tool (to make the RB port easier) and thought I would try it myself |
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| 20:03:38 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb_: how's that FTP download doing? |
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| 20:09:27 | linuxstb_ | mcuelenaere: 1.3GB and counting... |
| 20:09:35 | wpyh | bagder: I saw your video |
| 20:09:46 | wpyh | I think you put the M6 upside down at the end... |
| 20:09:55 | linuxstb_ | mcuelenaere: My download seems to be grabbing a load of Linux toolchains... |
| 20:10:18 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb_: yes, I saw they've got like 190MB toolchains (one for linux 2.4 & one for 2.6) |
| 20:10:21 | mcuelenaere | + some other files |
| 20:10:26 | linuxstb_ | mcuelenaere: But I'm happy to just let it run its course and sort it out later... |
| 20:10:39 | mcuelenaere | I'm not sure if these need to be mirrored, maybe one should be enough |
| 20:11:09 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb_: where are you going to upload it? |
| 20:11:30 | linuxstb_ | I don't know yet. |
| 20:12:46 | mcuelenaere | BTW I'm planning to buy a player supporting this chipset, but I can't decide between two players. What's the status of Rockboxes support for touchscreens? |
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| 20:17:13 | preglow | mcuelenaere: you mean of the touchscreen device itself? |
| 20:17:25 | preglow | touchscreen works, but is far from perfect |
| 20:17:37 | mcuelenaere | preglow: I mean, how far is it integrated into the Rockbox UI? |
| 20:17:56 | mcuelenaere | I know there were some attempts to, but I didn't follow them up |
| 20:17:56 | preglow | not at all |
| 20:18:02 | preglow | the touchscreen is used as buttons |
| 20:18:12 | preglow | press lower part of screen for "button down", etc |
| 20:18:31 | mcuelenaere | hmm so no improvement yet ok |
| 20:18:45 | preglow | we haven't even agreed how to do it |
| 20:19:11 | * | gevaerts has some ideas but no actual plans to do anything about them |
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| 20:19:15 | mcuelenaere | one idea for lists, could be to emulate something like a vertical touch stroke (like on the Creative Zen Vision:M) |
| 20:19:22 | mcuelenaere | or like on the ipod touch |
| 20:19:23 | preglow | in a way i almost prefer the way rockbox is doing it, no need to hit small buttons in random spots on the screen |
| 20:20:10 | gevaerts | It would be great if the touchscreen mapping could be integrated in the WPS design |
| 20:20:29 | mcuelenaere | I believe that's an awfully lot of work |
| 20:21:04 | gevaerts | Press 'play' to play, touch the progressbar somewhere to seek, ... |
| 20:21:45 | * | gevaerts proposes to switch to draw mode when the album cover is touched. That way you can draw moustaches on the faces |
| 20:22:09 | fml | Any brave soul here to commit the last patch in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9034 ? |
| 20:22:43 | mcuelenaere | is there something wrong with the database backend of Flyspray? |
| 20:22:57 | BigBambi | yes :) |
| 20:23:10 | mcuelenaere | ah ok, so it isn't really PHP who's complaining :) |
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| 20:23:24 | BigBambi | mcuelenaere: I believe there was an upgrade, since which various pages have stopped working |
| 20:23:58 | * | domonoky votes for gevarts moustache feature.. :-) |
| 20:24:09 | mcuelenaere | BigBambi: I always heard this had to do with PHP, but as it seems the database seems to have problems (or either it is the script); I was misinformed |
| 20:24:37 | BigBambi | mcuelenaere: I have no idea what the actual cause is - when I replied to you initially, I meant more that there was just a problem in general |
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| 20:25:47 | mcuelenaere | hmm wasn't there some touchscreen patch in the tracker ? I can't seem to find it |
| 20:26:14 | Dark_Jackal | Question: With the Rockbox firmware can you manually save mp3s to a common directory on the actual unit like you would normally on a common mp3 player or does it still require m4a? |
| 20:26:30 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: Care to rephrase? |
| 20:26:44 | BigBambi | With some details - e.g. what player? |
| 20:27:00 | * | gevaerts is totally confused by Dark_Jackal's question |
| 20:27:07 | BigBambi | gevaerts: me too |
| 20:27:12 | Dark_Jackal | Question: With the Rockbox firmware can you manually save mp3s to a common directory on the actual unit like you would normally on a common mp3 player or does it still require m4a? |
| 20:27:27 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: that is the same question.... |
| 20:27:38 | BigBambi | ergo, I still don't understand |
| 20:27:43 | Dark_Jackal | ipod |
| 20:27:49 | BigBambi | Which ipod? |
| 20:27:50 | Dark_Jackal | ipod |
| 20:28:02 | Dark_Jackal | Ipod |
| 20:28:05 | domonoky | Dark_Jackal: with rockbox you can put your music where you like, it doesnt matter, and rockbox plays many formats, not only m4a ... |
| 20:28:15 | Dark_Jackal | brb cgi -.- |
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| 20:28:37 | * | BigBambi looks around for hidden cameras |
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| 20:35:38 | Dark_Jackal | Sorry about that cgi lag |
| 20:36:08 | Dark_Jackal | Hope that wasn't taken for spam |
| 20:36:53 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: nope, but I didn't fully understand the question |
| 20:36:58 | BigBambi | Also, which iPod? |
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| 20:37:33 | Dark_Jackal | Anyway, my question was with the rockbox firmware can I save mp3s to a common directory on the perspective ipod rather than having it in a m4a or aac |
| 20:38:05 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: Rockbox supports many many formats, and you can put them where you like |
| 20:38:10 | domonoky | yes rockbox can play mp3s, and many more formats.. |
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| 20:38:55 | Dark_Jackal | Ok so it doesn't have to be converted into aac or m4a during the sync process then? |
| 20:39:10 | BigBambi | What sync process - just copy and paste |
| 20:39:17 | Dark_Jackal | THANK YOU |
| 20:39:22 | Dark_Jackal | Thats what I wanted to know |
| 20:39:23 | Dark_Jackal | Bingo |
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| 20:39:25 | Dark_Jackal | Thanks |
| 20:39:29 | bertrik | rockbox can't play DRMed files though |
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| 20:40:04 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
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| 20:41:20 | Dark_Jackal | The project I'm working on was orgionally developed for standard mp3 players..The only problem is with the ipod m4a and aac extentions as well as it's microprocessor problems... So rather than taking the time to adjust the firmware or attempt to reverse engineer it |
| 20:41:53 | Dark_Jackal | It's easier to go with a potential project that will do the job just was well and free advertasing for the project to boot lol |
| 20:42:16 | domonoky | what is this project ? |
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| 20:43:09 | Dark_Jackal | Remote Synchronization |
| 20:43:17 | Dark_Jackal | To sum it up that is |
| 20:43:18 | Dark_Jackal | lol |
| 20:43:28 | n17ikh | so, the battery life on my sansa e260 seems astoundingly poor. I know the battery meter is based on battery voltage but after charging with the OF until it says it's full rockbox says it's only got 68%. is this correct? |
| 20:44:20 | BigBambi | n17ikh: I get longer battery life with rockbox cf. the OF on my e260 |
| 20:44:31 | BigBambi | And it goes to more than 68% |
| 20:44:47 | bertrik | same here |
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| 20:45:31 | Dark_Jackal | This project is released under the GNU license right or am I mistaken? |
| 20:45:34 | BigBambi | yes |
| 20:45:39 | BigBambi | GPL |
| 20:45:44 | Dark_Jackal | ok |
| 20:46:15 | n17ikh | well, I'm charging it again in the OF and it's charging more than previously |
| 20:46:18 | bertrik | n17ikh, actually, if I use an unpowered hub it doesn't get charged very well in the OF |
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| 20:46:59 | iJason | ive gone back to my old iPod 60gb |
| 20:47:05 | Dark_Jackal | Just as long as credit is given where credit is due then everything should be fine if I just throw your firmware in as a adaptment for ipods? |
| 20:47:05 | iJason | the 160gb is going back |
| 20:47:23 | Dark_Jackal | ataptation* |
| 20:47:24 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: So long as you abide by the GPL |
| 20:47:35 | iJason | the iPod Classic 160gb has a much lower headphone output than the iPod 60gb |
| 20:47:38 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: such as by releasing source if required |
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| 20:48:21 | * | gevaerts recommends just reading the GPL (v2 in this case). It's not _that_ complicated |
| 20:48:30 | Dark_Jackal | Oh no lol I wasn't going to mod it in anyway. So the firmware source won't be an issue my friend |
| 20:48:31 | iJason | what happeend to ZAgor? |
| 20:48:31 | Dark_Jackal | lol |
| 20:48:37 | n17ikh | well, I've got it plugged directly into a usb port on my laptop, so it's a 500ma port |
| 20:48:51 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: It will if you release a product containing any GPL code |
| 20:48:51 | n17ikh | and windows identifies it as having asked for it as such |
| 20:49:20 | iJason | ok |
| 20:49:33 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: As gevaerts says, I'd read the GPL (v2) - it is very strict in what you can and can't do |
| 20:49:34 | n17ikh | does it charge up in rockbox now that there's a rudimentary USB stack to ask for full power? |
| 20:49:46 | n17ikh | or is the OF still best for charging |
| 20:49:55 | BigBambi | n17ikh: OF |
| 20:50:05 | Dark_Jackal | So I guess it's changed within the last 5 years then |
| 20:50:07 | Dark_Jackal | lol |
| 20:50:08 | Dark_Jackal | :X |
| 20:50:13 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: eh? |
| 20:50:27 | gevaerts | No. It's just been misunderstood by lots of people who don't read it |
| 20:50:50 | bertrik | n17ikh, it will charge in rockbox, but very slowly (50 mA) and only partially (up to 3.9V) |
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| 20:52:02 | gevaerts | You shouldn't have any problems actually following the license, but you should really read it first |
| 20:52:22 | Dark_Jackal | You misunderstand me lol. I was going going to link back to your site and have them download from your server. Not actually contain the source in my own project. |
| 20:52:36 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: that isn't good enough IIUC |
| 20:52:53 | Dark_Jackal | It's just an option for ipod users not a general software requirement |
| 20:52:58 | gevaerts | Depends. If you just download the binaries, and you are non-commercial, that should be fine |
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| 20:53:20 | * | gevaerts re-reads what Dark_Jackal said |
| 20:53:27 | BigBambi | I was assuming he meant he would offer it for download, then point here |
| 20:53:28 | n17ikh | bertrik: I thought they fixed the 50mA issue when they put the usb stuff in |
| 20:53:44 | gevaerts | You mean you won't actually distribute yourself, just recommend it ? |
| 20:53:47 | n17ikh | or is that an issue with the charging hardware? |
| 20:53:49 | Dark_Jackal | Exactly |
| 20:53:55 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: If you meant just point people here, then sorry, I misunderstood |
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| 20:54:09 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: OK :) |
| 20:54:15 | Dark_Jackal | No worries I am in a hurry so it's my fault too |
| 20:55:06 | Dark_Jackal | That way it also helps given with the release of updates etc |
| 20:55:28 | Dark_Jackal | It's is a free project, don't get me wrong. |
| 20:55:42 | Dark_Jackal | But you never want to rule anything out as a software developer.. |
| 20:55:44 | Dark_Jackal | You know? |
| 20:55:51 | bertrik | n17ikh, the problem with charging is not USB, but lack of configuration of the charging controller |
| 20:56:15 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: out of interest, do you have a lonk for your project? |
| 20:56:22 | BigBambi | *link |
| 20:56:23 | gevaerts | Don't worry. We actually prefer that people get it at rockbox.org. Most other sites have seriously outdated builds |
| 20:56:51 | gevaerts | And outdated (and modified) builds are hard to support when the users do end up here |
| 20:57:27 | Dark_Jackal | Not as of yet. I will not openly release it until it's fully complete. I've seen people that announce projects then have a 3rd party come in and take it a step further |
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| 20:58:04 | Dark_Jackal | But in the future you will see it on my personal development site I'll pm you a link |
| 20:58:28 | BigBambi | okie dokey |
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| 21:00:01 | BigBambi | Dark_Jackal: Actually, I suspect you can't as you are unregistered. Not to worry :) |
| 21:00:22 | Dark_Jackal | no worries |
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| 21:04:48 | przemhb | hi all |
| 21:04:50 | przemhb | does RB requires something special from AC3 files to be able to play them or should it be able to playback every AC3 file? |
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| 21:06:26 | preglow | afaik, it should play them as it is |
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| 21:06:33 | preglow | ac3 files are raw, i think, like mp3 |
| 21:07:22 | przemhb | well I am asking because I have a problem with AC3 playback |
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| 21:09:05 | gevaerts | What sort of problems (not that I know anything about this, but...) |
| 21:09:07 | gevaerts | ? |
| 21:09:18 | przemhb | I have extracted AC3 files in various ways but I was able to play only 1 from 17 tracks... |
| 21:09:56 | przemhb | AC3, 2-ch, 192kbps |
| 21:10:31 | przemhb | foobar2000 plays them back fine |
| 21:10:40 | gevaerts | What happens if they don't play ? |
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| 21:11:35 | paulproteus | I have a Sansa e260R that only has one partition. |
| 21:11:49 | paulproteus | Therefore, the sansapatcher tool fails to find my Sansa as a valid Sansa. |
| 21:12:06 | paulproteus | I'm pretty sure it's a v2. |
| 21:12:10 | paulproteus | I mean, it's *NOT* a v2! |
| 21:12:33 | BigBambi | paulproteus: does the OF work? |
| 21:12:40 | BigBambi | and have you set it to MSC mode? |
| 21:12:43 | paulproteus | You mean the Original Firmware? |
| 21:12:46 | przemhb | playback don't start, RB don't know the format, bitrate, etc and skips every AC3 file (except the 1 it plays)\ |
| 21:12:47 | BigBambi | yep |
| 21:12:55 | paulproteus | Yeah, it seems to work okay. |
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| 21:13:04 | paulproteus | BigBambi, Linux detects a mass storage device. |
| 21:13:22 | amiconn | przemhb: Did you/ could you try a sim? Hopefully it will show some helpful debug messages |
| 21:13:24 | paulproteus | I haven't' actually set anything; I have never run the Rhapsody software on a Windows machine, just used it as a drive. |
| 21:13:40 | paulproteus | It wasn't originally mine, so the previous owner could have done something strange, but he's not extremely technical. |
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| 21:14:02 | gevaerts | Is sansapatcher normally used on the e200R ? |
| 21:14:04 | paulproteus | I just managed to get into the Sansa "16MB FORMAT" mode and ask it to format itself. |
| 21:14:41 | przemhb | amicon: how to turn on debugging info display? |
| 21:15:04 | Crash91 | gevaerts: I think there is a different version for the R models. |
| 21:15:07 | paulproteus | gevaerts, The way I read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallation , it's necessary. |
| 21:15:14 | BigBambi | gevaerts: I believe so |
| 21:15:15 | paulproteus | Oh! Wrong tool maybe. (-: |
| 21:15:20 | amiconn | The sim outputs its debug messages to the console as normal |
| 21:15:31 | BigBambi | gevaerts: or nope |
| 21:15:36 | amiconn | Afaik this doesn't work for crosscompiled win32 sims though |
| 21:15:55 | amiconn | It will work for a linux sim, as well as for a win32 sim compiled under cygwin |
| 21:16:00 | BigBambi | paulproteus: it is e200rpatcher you want, reading that page |
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| 21:17:28 | paulproteus | I've checked out its source and reading its readme |
| 21:17:31 | paulproteus | brb, shower time (-: |
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| 21:20:54 | bertrik | amiconn: I think you're familiar with the ata_idle_notify. I think there's a fundamental problem with it. |
| 21:21:34 | bertrik | it always registers one-shot events which remove themselves from the list when they are fired, so a call ata_idle_unregister may fail and panic |
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| 21:28:28 | przemhb | amiconn: at the moment I don't have sim complied under cygwin |
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| 21:29:11 | przemhb | only rasher's precompiled versions |
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| 21:30:03 | przemhb | I will compile it by myself, check debugging output |
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| 21:47:41 | xqtftqx | Everybody, whats some legal roms that work with spectrum emu for rockbox |
| 21:47:51 | xqtftqx | like homebrew roms |
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| 21:48:27 | gevaerts | None. The spectrum uses tapes :) |
| 21:48:52 | xqtftqx | ok, some apps or whatever you want to call them... |
| 21:49:06 | linuxstb_ | Many spectrum tape images can be distributed legally - see http://www.worldofspectrum.org |
| 21:49:46 | xqtftqx | Ok, but which ones are playable/usable on rockbox, |
| 21:51:01 | * | pixelma notices that zxbox seems to not appear in the manual :/ |
| 21:51:36 | linuxstb_ | xqtftqx: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginZXBox - in theory any 48K image should work. |
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| 21:52:27 | xqtftqx | ok |
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| 21:58:04 | xqtftqx | Any recomendations on apps and games? |
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| 22:00:02 | * | gevaerts refers xqtftqx to a spectrum irc channel |
| 22:00:11 | xqtftqx | ok... |
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| 22:38:42 | przemhb | "cannot exec 'ccl' " - which package should I install to have it ( I use cygwin)? |
| 22:40:35 | linuxstb | The Rockbox wiki has page describing what packages you need in Cygwin for Rockbox development |
| 22:40:56 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
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| 22:45:39 | Ben | My iRiver H10 (20gb) has playlists in .pla format on it. Apparently there is/was a converter plugin for Rockbox that would turn them into Rockbox-compatible m3us. Pla2m3u |
| 22:45:42 | Ben | All I can find of it is this though: |
| 22:45:48 | Ben | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/6884?getfile=15186 |
| 22:46:01 | Ben | I was pointed to it from this: |
| 22:46:02 | Ben | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18695 |
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| 22:47:15 | Ben | Can I still get this plugin from somewhere? If not, how else can I turn .pla's into .m3u's? There are plenty of converters that go the other way... |
| 22:49:03 | linuxstb | The plugin is still there (your first link), but you'll need to apply that patch to the Rockbox source code, and compile your own version of Rockbox which includes that plugin. |
| 22:50:09 | bertrik | the patch still applies, except for the CATEGORIES file |
| 22:50:14 | Ben | That sounds like too much coding for me |
| 22:50:39 | Bagder | well its only playlist, make a new |
| 22:52:27 | Ben | Yeah, I guess. What I'm really aiming for is the playlists from WMP11 to be put straight onto the iRiver. Even if I could convert the .wlp format to .m3u, this would be no use on my iRiver because the playlist points to music on my PC harddrive, NOT on the iRiver itself. The file paths are wrong. |
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| 22:52:59 | Ben | Using the original H10 firmware and syncing with WMP11 allows for the playlists to be corrected as they are copied over, but they are also converted to .m3u in the process |
| 22:53:28 | Ben | (not m3u, I meant pla) |
| 22:53:48 | Bagder | rockbox handles badly prefixed paths in playlists |
| 22:53:57 | bluebrother | well, applying a patch and building isn't much coding ... |
| 22:54:16 | Ben | Depends how clueless to all this you are, I only got Rockbox a week or two ago and I'm still playing |
| 22:54:33 | Ben | I was done with compiling when I gave up on Linux |
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| 22:55:48 | Ben | lol |
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| 22:56:42 | Ben | Badger: so if I tell WMP11 to make .m3u's instead of .wpl, Rockbox should cope with them copied right over so long as the file structure is vaguely similar? |
| 22:56:50 | * | bluebrother doesn't consider giving up on linux a good idea ;-) |
| 22:56:58 | Bagder | Ben: yes, I would think so |
| 22:57:04 | Ben | nice. |
| 22:57:22 | bluebrother | Rockbox strips leading paths. So you just need the same structure "inside". |
| 22:58:46 | Ben | I see, that's sorted out my problem then, I was going about it in quite a convoluted way apparently. Re. linux, I was forced into a choice between a transparent, customisable & secure OS |
| 22:58:55 | Ben | Or a working printer and non-obscure software. |
| 22:59:09 | Ben | Maybe when I don't rely on my computer for work commitments |
| 22:59:35 | bluebrother | heh, I know that problems. Still, I don't consider linux obscure ;-) |
| 22:59:42 | bluebrother | but this is getting OT now ;) |
| 22:59:50 | Ben | True. Thanks again |
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| 23:28:35 | bluebrother | domonoky: around? |
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| 23:28:44 | domonoky | yes.. |
| 23:29:12 | bluebrother | I was looking a bit after FS #8948. I can reproduce the issue and it seems espeak doesn't like the long path. |
| 23:29:19 | bluebrother | have you tried espeak on windows? |
| 23:30:37 | bluebrother | maybe it would be better to always create the wav and talk files in $TEMP and copy them afterwards |
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| 23:31:57 | domonoky | sounds like a good idea, would also improve speed on slow devices... |
| 23:32:05 | bluebrother | yep. |
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| 23:33:51 | domonoky | but i dont know when i will find time to work on this.. so if you have time, feel free to improve it :-) |
| 23:34:40 | bluebrother | I just commented on the task to document it. I'm still working on bootloader rework ... |
| 23:35:07 | bluebrother | unfortunately we have quite a few different installation methods. |
| 23:35:24 | domonoky | jup, and they will get more and more.. |
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| 23:35:51 | bluebrother | hopefully my rework will make that easier to maintain. |
| 23:35:58 | domonoky | but if you have the base ready, you could post a patch, and i will try to fill in other bootloader installs.. if i find time :-) |
| 23:35:59 | bluebrother | (and add new ones) |
| 23:36:11 | bluebrother | hehe, always this time thingy ;-) |
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| 23:36:49 | domonoky | yes, sadly i have to also work for money :-) |
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| 23:40:23 | bluebrother | well, working for money isn't the problem. The problem is the amount of time it requires ;-) |
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| 23:41:56 | Bagder | and the far too much time spent on sleep! |
| 23:42:17 | moos | 24 isn't enough unfortunatly, never :) |
| 23:42:25 | moos | hours |
| 23:45:33 | bluebrother | 24 hours for sleeping? Wow. I need less ;-) |
| 23:46:51 | moos | hehe :) a day is always too short |
| 23:47:20 | bluebrother | indeed. |
| 23:47:46 | * | bluebrother has too many unrelated changes in the main source tree :o |
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| 23:56:40 | dionoea | Hum, I get an "uncompatible model" error when using this plugin code http://paste.videolan.org/4188 ? (ipod video 30GB) |
| 23:57:07 | dionoea | on a fresh install and fresh build configuration |
| 23:57:13 | dionoea | all the other plugins run fine :/ |
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