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| 00:12:45 | PaulJam | incompatible model usually means the plugin is for a different target |
| 00:13:46 | dionoea | well it was build in the same make command as all my other working plugins |
| 00:13:47 | amiconn | Hmm, that actually sounds like a useful extension for disktidy - cleaning up the mess of the respective OF |
| 00:14:06 | dionoea | i erased all my .rockbox stuff and build directory files to make sure |
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| 00:14:25 | dionoea | amiconn: yup, especially when you use the apple firmware all the time to get decent USB support :) |
| 00:14:38 | dionoea | (I'm using that plugin as autostart.rock) |
| 00:14:39 | amiconn | I just use emergency disk mode |
| 00:14:45 | dionoea | it's slower |
| 00:14:51 | amiconn | Not on mini G2 |
| 00:14:55 | dionoea | ah :) |
| 00:15:48 | dionoea | anyway, I was wondering if i'm missing some new required include/macro call/something that might scare rockbox when it tries runing the plugin |
| 00:19:21 | amiconn | In fact I use rockbox usb most of the time; edm for charging and only occasionally for data transfer |
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| 00:20:11 | amiconn | The drawback is that it only works on the root ports and that there's sometimes a bus reset causing a few seconds delay, but apart from that it's working fine |
| 00:20:34 | dionoea | I had some partition corruptions a few days ago using the rockbox usb |
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| 00:33:01 | Xqtftqx | its in usb mode |
| 00:33:43 | Xqtftqx | and i can see the firmware partion |
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| 01:21:04 | soap | any reason to believe there is line-in on the Sansa dock connector? |
| 01:25:50 | Shaid | there's a thread about the dock connector for the e200s on ABI. Doesn't mention line in at all. |
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| 01:32:31 | soap | Yea, but I was under the impression most knowledge on the hardware capabilities of the Sansas had trickled into the wild through Rockbox. |
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| 02:21:46 | entropy8 | hello all, i am using an 80GB ipod video with rockbox Version: r15589-071111 but am having some trouble playing an ogg video file, can someone help? |
| 02:22:28 | scorche | first off, you are using a very old version...secondly, rockbox doesnt play "ogg video" |
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| 02:23:21 | entropy8 | i see, so 2 questions then, how often should i probably update my version of rockbox? and does rockbox only support mpeg 1 and 2 video? |
| 02:24:42 | cool_walking_ | yes, only MPEG1/2 - see PluginMpegplayer wiki page. Update whenever you want - you can keep an eye on the changes and update for new features you like, or just update monthly, or whatever. |
| 02:25:11 | entropy8 | thank you cool_walking_ much appreciated |
| 02:25:14 | scorche | as often as you feel necessary (pay attention to the MajorChanges wiki page, however when asking for support, make sure you are running the current build....and he answered the second question |
| 02:25:35 | entropy8 | thanks to you also scorche |
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| 02:35:26 | krazykit | hello |
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| 03:24:03 | Llorean | Is "assume no format tag = soundtracker" the right way to solve the soundtracker problem? |
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| 04:24:00 | iamabple | in quickscreen, pressing 'UP' doesn't select previous value. Isn't it a bug? |
| 04:24:30 | JdGordon|uni | yep |
| 04:29:15 | iamabple | okay, but QS_UP is not yet implemented, so i felt weird that 'Down' and 'Up' does the same thing. |
| 04:38:08 | iamabple | and one more thing:in option_select,c, option_select_next_val() seems to call a callback with an old value.. |
| 04:38:23 | iamabple | doesn't seems to causing a bug, but.. |
| 04:39:40 | JdGordon|uni | which callback? |
| 04:40:17 | * | JdGordon|uni needs to check the code... will do that tonight maybe |
| 04:40:50 | iamabple | option_callback, when 'apply' is true |
| 04:41:52 | Llorean | JdGordon|uni: Up is supposed to leave the quickscreen. |
| 04:41:57 | Llorean | Not select the previous value. |
| 04:42:10 | Llorean | Well, it depends on target, at least |
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| 04:46:58 | saratoga2 | who should i be talking to about questions with how the sim actually works? |
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| 05:31:03 | JdGordon|uni | saratoga2: depends on which part... |
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| 05:41:51 | saratoga2 | JdGordon|uni: I'm not really sure what parts of the firmware folder get replaced by the stuff in uisimulator |
| 05:42:00 | saratoga2 | its not really clear to me how all of this fits together |
| 05:42:52 | JdGordon|uni | the Makefile is probabl;y the best place to start.. that will at least show the obviously non sim files... |
| 05:43:39 | Dhraakellian | coming up on 11h30, give or take. Almost done with the second symphony of the second pass through the 10-symphony, 10h05 playlist |
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| 05:56:26 | saratoga2 | Dhraakellian: thats for what? |
| 05:56:43 | Dhraakellian | battery runtime test, q6 Vorbis |
| 05:56:49 | JdGordon|uni | on what? |
| 05:56:54 | Dhraakellian | ah, right |
| 05:56:57 | Dhraakellian | sansa e200 |
| 05:57:10 | JdGordon|uni | should get little over 12 on a e200 |
| 05:57:24 | JdGordon|uni | actually.. 13 if your lucky |
| 05:57:34 | JdGordon|uni | goingg by my tests a while ago :p |
| 05:57:47 | Dhraakellian | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaRuntime |
| 05:57:55 | Dhraakellian | says something a bit longer, iirc |
| 05:58:28 | saratoga2 | did you get a chance to do the OF? |
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| 05:58:57 | JdGordon|uni | crikey.. 20h! |
| 05:59:03 | * | JdGordon|uni must have done it ages ago |
| 05:59:04 | Dhraakellian | an e280 got 15-18h in late January using q8 |
| 05:59:19 | Dhraakellian | JdGordon|uni: but that's with FLAC |
| 05:59:30 | JdGordon|uni | true |
| 05:59:32 | Dhraakellian | and, iirc, FLAC has the reputation of being extremely fast |
| 05:59:42 | Dhraakellian | Vorbis, notsomuch |
| 05:59:45 | saratoga2 | the slow mp3 decoder on arm hurts battery life quite a bit on flash targets |
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| 06:00:21 | Dhraakellian | saratoga2: so you think I'll get shorter runtime when I do the V2 test? |
| 06:00:31 | saratoga2 | yes |
| 06:00:45 | Dhraakellian | hmm... actually, V2 might well be higher bitrate than q6 anyway |
| 06:00:48 | saratoga2 | something like 2.4ma extra or so to decode V2 verses 200kbps Vorbis |
| 06:00:55 | Dhraakellian | in terms of ABR, at least |
| 06:01:05 | saratoga2 | vorbis is getting close to running unboosted on PP |
| 06:01:11 | Dhraakellian | *blink* |
| 06:01:14 | Dhraakellian | unboosted? |
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| 06:01:58 | Dhraakellian | should I upgrade to the latest version of the OF for the comparison with the V2? |
| 06:02:22 | saratoga2 | if you want |
| 06:02:26 | saratoga2 | i doubt it makes a big difference |
| 06:03:06 | saratoga2 | i'd actually expect vorbis to give better results then a comparable bitrate mp3 in the retail firmware |
| 06:03:39 | Dhraakellian | and it looks like the OF actually has shorter battery life even for the same mp3 settings |
| 06:03:42 | Dhraakellian | from the chart |
| 06:03:55 | Dhraakellian | I decided to leave replaygain off |
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| 06:04:26 | Dhraakellian | and -25dB really isn't well suited to environments with much noise at all |
| 06:04:34 | saratoga2 | replaygain isn't going to do anything |
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| 06:04:45 | Dhraakellian | I wouldn't want to listen to this outside |
| 06:04:59 | Dhraakellian | so volume has little to no effect on battery life, then? |
| 06:05:23 | JdGordon|uni | it might have a tiny unmeasurable effect... |
| 06:05:27 | Dhraakellian | the only non-default setting I have is that scrobbling was enabled |
| 06:05:35 | Dhraakellian | on a flash-based player |
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| 06:05:43 | Acamo | hello? |
| 06:05:48 | JdGordon|uni | scrobbling will cause a bit more disk activity, but again, on flash, not much probably |
| 06:05:51 | Dhraakellian | good to know about volume, though |
| 06:06:04 | saratoga2 | i think the DAC uses something like 2 ma when i tested |
| 06:06:12 | saratoga2 | though i didn't try adjusting the volume |
| 06:06:38 | Acamo | can i bug some one on the IRC with a question? |
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| 06:06:46 | Dhraakellian | I figured that since the battery bench plugin was writing out to the flash every so often, a little scrobbling wouldn't hurt much more |
| 06:06:57 | JdGordon|uni | Acamo: dont ask to ask... just ask |
| 06:06:57 | saratoga2 | i guess in theory it can probably use a fair amoutn more, since they claim 2x 40mw amps |
| 06:07:13 | Acamo | ok |
| 06:07:26 | JdGordon|uni | Dhraakellian: you modified batt bench to work right? |
| 06:07:37 | JdGordon|uni | its bugged on flash targets |
| 06:07:43 | saratoga2 | i think thats fixed now |
| 06:08:00 | JdGordon|uni | oh? |
| 06:08:02 | Acamo | im trying to use the ipodpatcher to patch the bootloader so i can boot rock box but it keeps telling me that it cannot find the ipod |
| 06:08:08 | Dhraakellian | JdGordon|uni: I didn't actually make any changes, given that there's a suggestion on the bug report that it be closed |
| 06:08:16 | JdGordon|uni | ok then |
| 06:08:19 | JdGordon|uni | Acamo: which ipod? |
| 06:08:27 | Acamo | 5g black ipod video |
| 06:08:32 | Acamo | 80g |
| 06:08:44 | scorche` | Acamo: are you sure it is not a classic? |
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| 06:08:56 | Dhraakellian | "2008-04-11: A task closure has been requested. Reason for request: i think, that my batt_bench_v3 patch solves problem and also improves working under other (hdd based too) devices" −− http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8070 |
| 06:09:04 | Acamo | prety sure |
| 06:09:35 | Acamo | clasic didn't have video play back, and ive been watchign futurama on mine |
| 06:09:51 | saratoga2 | classic is the new ipod, and yes it supports video |
| 06:10:00 | saratoga2 | look on apple's website and figure out which one you have |
| 06:10:01 | JdGordon|uni | Dhraakellian: that closrure request is an odd way of saying "commit me.." its not saying the bug is fixed |
| 06:10:13 | Acamo | oh well i will try that |
| 06:10:19 | Dhraakellian | JdGordon|uni: ah, okay. |
| 06:10:30 | scorche | Acamo: does it looks like this? http://www.sakavan.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ipod-classic-dimensions.jpg |
| 06:10:44 | Dhraakellian | JdGordon|uni: well, at the worst, I'll have to sit through yet another day of Bruckner symphonies |
| 06:10:53 | Dhraakellian | oh. poor. me. |
| 06:10:54 | JdGordon|uni | :) |
| 06:11:06 | Acamo | yes it looks exactly liek that, |
| 06:11:24 | saratoga2 | then i guess you don't have a 5G |
| 06:11:24 | scorche | then it is not a 5g...it is a 6g otherwise known as the classic |
| 06:11:38 | Acamo | hmm |
| 06:11:51 | Dhraakellian | JdGordon|uni: even if it is still affected by the bug, the battery benchmark will still give the total runtime, will it not? |
| 06:12:05 | JdGordon|uni | not sure... |
| 06:12:07 | saratoga2 | i wonder if ipodpatcher could be made to say "this is an ipod classic, don't ask for help" |
| 06:12:18 | scorche | saratoga2: it would be nice... |
| 06:12:20 | JdGordon|uni | does the newer ipods all have different usb id's? |
| 06:12:39 | Acamo | so then there is no hope of me getting rockbox or even ipodlinux onto it |
| 06:12:47 | JdGordon|uni | bingo |
| 06:12:54 | JdGordon|uni | well.. not any time soon |
| 06:12:55 | scorche | Acamo: not now, at least |
| 06:13:04 | Acamo | that realy blows |
| 06:13:10 | Dhraakellian | donate it to a willing developer? |
| 06:13:15 | JdGordon|uni | Acamo: wait a sec though... you on linux? |
| 06:13:22 | Acamo | xubuntu |
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| 06:13:41 | JdGordon|uni | Acamo: can you do sudo lsusb and show us the line for the ipod? |
| 06:13:55 | Acamo | sudo lsusb |
| 06:13:59 | Acamo | ok i will |
| 06:15:44 | Acamo | here we go| Bus 002 Device 015: ID 05ac:1261 Apple Computer,Inc. |
| 06:16:02 | JdGordon|uni | ok, thanks |
| 06:16:09 | JdGordon|uni | thats definatly a classic... |
| 06:16:16 | * | JdGordon|uni found the wiki page he was after |
| 06:16:40 | Acamo | are you guys developers? |
| 06:16:43 | JdGordon|uni | anyone else think ipodpatcher should say something like "an apple device has been found, but its not a known device, which means its not supported" |
| 06:17:03 | JdGordon|uni | yes |
| 06:17:14 | krazykit | that sounds like a useful message |
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| 06:17:43 | Acamo | "abandone hope of installign rockbox now and dont waste the rest of the day trying to fix it" would be a bit more fittign for me |
| 06:17:49 | JdGordon|uni | saratoga2: ha, just saw you suggested the same thing :) |
| 06:17:56 | Dhraakellian | heh. |
| 06:18:13 | * | Dhraakellian really wouldn't have minded rockbox on teh soufflé |
| 06:18:34 | saratoga2 | does ipod patcher really check the usbids? |
| 06:18:46 | saratoga2 | i thought it was based on reading hte file system |
| 06:19:06 | Dhraakellian | any devs out there who would want to work on a port to the old 0.5GB iPod Shuffles if only they actually had one? |
| 06:19:30 | Dhraakellian | I still haven't quite decided what to do with teh Soufflé, now that I replaced it with the Sansa |
| 06:19:30 | JdGordon|uni | saratoga2: i'm not sure about ipod/sansa patcher, but rbutil does go of usb ids |
| 06:19:37 | JdGordon|uni | patchers could also |
| 06:19:45 | krazykit | Dhraakellian, as i recall, the shuffles are based on the sigmatel SOC, which does not have a free compiler |
| 06:19:52 | Dhraakellian | ah, okay |
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| 06:20:10 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 06:20:15 | JdGordon|uni | mind you, shuffles would be an interesting target... 100% voice driven |
| 06:20:15 | Igbothom | morn/evening all |
| 06:20:24 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
| 06:20:37 | Dhraakellian | which is why I really wouldn't have minded having rockbox on the thing |
| 06:20:44 | Igbothom | have an issue with a Sansa E260 not wanting to boot back to the original firmware, therefore cannot ad/remove songs |
| 06:20:52 | Acamo | so how coudl i help in posibly ading support for the clasic? |
| 06:20:55 | Dhraakellian | krazykit: same with the new ones? |
| 06:21:10 | JdGordon|uni | Igbothom: whats the problem? fades to white/black? |
| 06:21:21 | JdGordon|uni | Acamo: break the encryption, reverse engineer the OF |
| 06:21:22 | saratoga2 | Igbothom: check the wiki page for e200, theres instructions on how to fix a broken retail firmware |
| 06:21:58 | krazykit | Dhraakellian, if the new ones are different, i'd guess they're using the samsung SOC like the classics and nanos, but this is just speculation. i'd think the correct information is floating around somewhere |
| 06:22:18 | Igbothom | jdgordon|uni and saratoga2 thanks - looking on the wiki now |
| 06:22:51 | Dhraakellian | Doesn't Cowon also make a screenless player? I think I've seen a couple of my friends with little yellow things. |
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| 06:27:45 | Acamo | ok |
| 06:28:17 | Acamo | i will keep this user name goign to sleep now have work to do |
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| 07:26:53 | lobf | hey there |
| 07:27:25 | lobf | can anyone tell me why this thing has to catalogue my entire library whenever i select a song on shuffle? |
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| 07:28:02 | lobf | like, i want it to shuffle through my library, but if i think of a song i want to hear, i want it to play right then, not after it counts 6700 other songs |
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| 07:29:20 | JdGordon | it doesnt... |
| 07:29:50 | lobf | what have i done then? |
| 07:30:40 | JdGordon | im not sure... youve got the database enabled, but I'm not really sure what your issue is |
| 07:31:45 | lobf | perhaps i'll ask the forum |
| 07:31:54 | lobf | you have any idea at all? |
| 07:32:56 | JdGordon | yeah, your doing it wrong.... if you just want to ad a song to the playlist hold select on the song and go playlist > queue/insert next |
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| 07:33:57 | lobf | i was just selecting from my tracks menu |
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| 07:34:37 | JdGordon | yes, doing that creates a new playlist and starts playng the track you selected |
| 07:34:45 | JdGordon | thats why its scanning the files |
| 07:35:28 | lobf | ah |
| 07:35:57 | lobf | okay, but because of that you have to choose what you want to listen to beforehand if you don't want big pauses between songs |
| 07:36:02 | lobf | or you can do party mode |
| 07:36:06 | lobf | right? |
| 07:36:08 | BigBambi | no |
| 07:36:16 | BigBambi | JdGordon> yeah, your doing it wrong.... if you just want to ad a song to the playlist hold select on the song and go playlist > queue/insert next |
| 07:36:42 | lobf | i read that... |
| 07:36:49 | BigBambi | so do that then |
| 07:37:11 | lobf | do i add my entire library to a playlist? |
| 07:37:19 | BigBambi | if you like |
| 07:37:19 | JdGordon | no.. |
| 07:37:27 | lobf | because i want it to play through my whole library until i select a song specifically |
| 07:37:37 | lobf | er, shuffle through my library |
| 07:37:42 | BigBambi | lobf: whenever you are listening to music you are using a playlist |
| 07:38:08 | lobf | do you understand what i'm trying to do? |
| 07:38:35 | BigBambi | listen to everything shuffled then go to t apsecific song |
| 07:38:47 | lobf | yes |
| 07:38:58 | BigBambi | there you go then |
| 07:39:45 | lobf | goodness, i was totally reading that wrong |
| 07:39:48 | lobf | sorry, i see now |
| 07:40:25 | lobf | oh, the battery's on it's last legs, but i'm playing it plugged into the computer and it keeps shutting off from low battery |
| 07:44:10 | lobf | even though it's plugged in |
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| 07:56:19 | theFATMAN | can i install rockbox on a sony walkman? model# NWZ S16F |
| 07:57:08 | JdGordon | no |
| 07:59:12 | theFATMAN | JdGordon, in the future? |
| 07:59:33 | JdGordon | who knows? |
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| 08:47:13 | rph | 'ello all |
| 08:47:24 | markun | hi |
| 08:48:14 | rph | was just prowling for a cool / helpful indie rock community, mind if i chill here for a while and watch whats said? |
| 08:49:15 | markun | well, this has nothing to do with indie rock ;) Look at http://www.rockbox.org/ |
| 08:50:00 | rph | ahh im really sorry, i saw this channel on another site and they aluded to it maybe im just wrong, ty anyway mark |
| 08:50:07 | markun | and if you just want to chat a bit please go to #rockbox-community |
| 08:50:14 | markun | although it's pretty quiet right now |
| 08:50:16 | markun | no problem |
| 08:50:20 | rph | take care |
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| 10:07:22 | B4gder | we should proceed to get rooms booked for devcon |
| 10:09:30 | markun | B4gder: hotel rooms or conference? |
| 10:09:40 | B4gder | hotel |
| 10:11:58 | B4gder | it seems we're 7 people interested to "band together on a cheap hostel" |
| 10:14:29 | markun | last time I stayed in a place called Pegasus Hostel |
| 10:15:42 | * | petur nods |
| 10:16:41 | B4gder | I submitted a query on citystay.de just now |
| 10:17:16 | Llorean | I'm preferring to find a single room for myself, but I'd like to try to book it somewhere where other people are staying (if reasonably possible) since I'm not familiar at all with the city and might find it a little easier this way. |
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| 10:31:31 | MTee | Hello! |
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| 10:34:14 | MTee | isn't there a 'seek' function in the mpeg player ? |
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| 10:34:23 | Llorean | Yes. |
| 10:36:50 | MTee | has it been implemented recently ? coz I installed rockbox about 5-7 months ago :) |
| 10:37:16 | B4gder | 5-7months is a loooong time in rockbox land |
| 10:37:55 | * | gevaerts can't even remember anything that happened in rockbox that long ago |
| 10:38:31 | MTee | :D .. just noticed how long actually it is while writing .. !! |
| 10:38:32 | crash91 | MTee: You might want to check here to see what the major updates were http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 10:38:44 | B4gder | I believe it was around that time the wheel was invented |
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| 10:39:36 | MTee | emm .. maybe I just can't remember exactly when I installed it .. but I remember doing an impressive update |
| 10:40:20 | MTee | anyways .. another quick ques .. do you need to know embedded programming to develop rockbox or just C ? |
| 10:40:57 | gevaerts | define "embedded programming" :) |
| 10:41:20 | cool_walking_ | That's a trick question, it has a space in it! |
| 10:41:30 | Dhraakellian | 2008-02-10: Improved power management on PortalPlayer targets (iPods, Sansas, H10, etc...), resulting in increased battery life. |
| 10:41:57 | Dhraakellian | so I'm guessing that means my battery test that I'm running right now will likely be much better than the ones listed on the wiki? |
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| 10:42:57 | gevaerts | But seriously, rockbox is over 95% c, and you can basically ignore the rest for most things. The "embedded" bit is basically just being careful to write non-bloated code |
| 10:43:28 | MTee | gevaerts, cool_walking : can't answer this ques. :) .. I can however say that I know C .. so do you recommend any further reading/learning ? |
| 10:43:41 | Dhraakellian | if such is the case, given that I'm somewhere around 16h25 right now, I think I'd better just go to bed and not try to wait up for it to finish |
| 10:44:27 | gevaerts | Dhraakellian: do you mean just listening to the music isn't worth staying awake for ? ;) |
| 10:44:45 | yeahx | thats actually what I got up for, but I cant get in the mood |
| 10:44:52 | Dhraakellian | gevaerts: it's on the second pass through the playlist |
| 10:45:26 | Dhraakellian | granted, I did doze off a bit this afternoon/evening and miss a couple of the symphonies the first time round |
| 10:45:41 | Dhraakellian | but still, it's 4:45 here |
| 10:46:29 | gevaerts | MTee: the main things are : cooperative threading, (sometimes) slow CPUs, no malloc(), and people shout at you if you waste RAM |
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| 10:47:43 | Dhraakellian | I'd like to be in bed (and sleeping) before the sun comes up, and at about 16h30 now, even if I only get 18 hours out of the charge, that still puts me into daylight territory |
| 10:48:18 | gevaerts | Ok, good night :) |
| 10:48:29 | Dhraakellian | g'night/morning |
| 10:49:10 | MTee | gecaerts : I see .. from what you said it's obvious that I still need to know a little bit more to start developing :D .. so is there a book/tutorial or something alike to refer to ? .. |
| 10:50:21 | B4gder | MTee: dive in, try to write your own plugin. Then you'll see and learn where you don't understand or know enough. |
| 10:50:34 | * | gevaerts agrees with B4gder |
| 10:52:15 | MTee | pretty much reasonable .. ok then I will .. just after those darn finals end :S .. I'll go now, exam starts in 2hours! wish me luck :( |
| 10:52:39 | gevaerts | I seriously doubt if anyone here learned this "embedded programming" thing from a book or a tutorial |
| 10:52:44 | gevaerts | good luck :) |
| 10:53:09 | * | MTee says good bye |
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| 10:59:16 | * | petur didn't even have C at school, just cobol, pascal and crap like that |
| 10:59:52 | * | petur quotes Manuel 'I learned it from a book' |
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| 11:10:39 | crash91 | How do I install SDL (for the sims)? |
| 11:12:05 | markun | for which OS? |
| 11:12:45 | crash91 | Ubuntu |
| 11:13:13 | markun | can't you find it in the package manager? |
| 11:14:21 | crash91 | would this be it? libsdl1.2debian - Simple DirectMedia Layer |
| 11:14:43 | markun | yes, sounds like it |
| 11:15:20 | crash91 | there's also -all, -alsa, -esound and -oss, should I get -all? |
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| 11:16:05 | markun | I don't really know, but you could try that. |
| 11:17:18 | crash91 | It still says i dont have it installed. I'll try checking in synaptic instead of using apt-cahce |
| 11:17:22 | crash91 | cache& |
| 11:18:10 | crash91 | Aha, found it in the wiki, you need libsdl-dev |
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| 11:37:54 | JdGordon | crash91: apt-get install sdl-dev |
| 11:37:59 | JdGordon | libsdl-dev* |
| 11:38:07 | JdGordon | crash91: apt-get install libsdl-dev |
| 11:38:25 | crash91 | JdGordon: Thanks, I did that :) |
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| 12:11:51 | Bagder | CityStay.de has an 8 bed room we can get for ~20 euros/person per night |
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| 12:13:55 | petur | sounds reasonable |
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| 12:14:38 | Bagder | I think so too |
| 12:14:55 | petur | that is probably w/o breakfast? |
| 12:15:01 | Bagder | yes |
| 12:15:10 | Bagder | "We also offer a healthy breakfast with organic bread and milk for 4 euros" |
| 12:15:47 | gevaerts | What else ? |
| 12:15:55 | * | gevaerts doesn't want _only_ bread and milk |
| 12:15:57 | Bagder | it doesn't say |
| 12:16:37 | petur | or we can have it together at the devcon place if possible (found that very enjoyable last time) |
| 12:16:45 | markun | Bagder: the 8 to 10 bed rooms here are 13 euro: http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/prices.html |
| 12:17:47 | Bagder | I wonder how that compares in regard to location/proximity to the devcon place |
| 12:18:35 | petur | if DerPapst also stays there we have two cars to transport everybody |
| 12:18:49 | Bagder | ah true |
| 12:18:51 | JdGordon | $10 for bread and milk!!! |
| 12:19:20 | Bagder | but he's not on the list atm |
| 12:19:28 | gevaerts | http://maps.google.be/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Str.+der+Pariser+Kommune+35,+berlin&daddr=Schicklerstr.+5-7,+D-10179+Berlin&sll=50.805935,4.432983&sspn=2.461226,5.767822&ie=UTF8&z=15 |
| 12:19:29 | Llorean | Anyone know what packages I need to build the manual these days? |
| 12:19:56 | petur | wow, that hostel is very close to devcon location |
| 12:20:18 | Bagder | 2.4km is indeed not a lot |
| 12:20:22 | * | petur had just entered the stuff in maps... |
| 12:23:10 | gevaerts | http://maps.google.be/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Str.+der+Pariser+Kommune+35,+berlin&daddr=Schicklerstr.+5-7,+D-10179+Berlin+to:Rosenstra%C3%9Fe+16,10178+Berlin&mra=pi&mrcr=1&sll=52.51627,13.428585&sspn=0.018516,0.045061&ie=UTF8&ll=52.517892,13.421946&spn=0.018515,0.045061&z=15 also has the citistay one |
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| 12:24:37 | Bagder | ok, I've mailed pegasus to see if there's room |
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| 12:25:58 | markun | it's a hostel, so don't expect a lot of luxury |
| 12:26:16 | Bagder | :-) |
| 12:26:20 | gevaerts | What ? No room service and minibar with champagne ? |
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| 12:28:42 | markun | not like the room petur and I had in sweden :) |
| 12:29:10 | markun | although sleeping on a sofa in the office was just as nice :) |
| 12:29:23 | petur | hey, we had a pool table in our 'room' |
| 12:30:42 | petur | pegasus doesn't mention any rules like at what times you can enter/leave |
| 12:31:36 | * | petur takes that back - 24 hours reception :) |
| 12:32:27 | petur | impressive: http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/hostel/service.html |
| 12:33:18 | petur | 'Free internet access' - we can have devcon in the room :) |
| 12:33:39 | Bagder | hehe |
| 12:33:53 | petur | lunch time.... |
| 12:34:02 | gevaerts | Do they allow solder work in the rooms ? |
| 12:35:27 | Bagder | isn't soldering irons included in the service? |
| 12:36:40 | JdGordon_ | irons for clothes I tihnk you'll find... |
| 12:36:54 | gevaerts | Those aren't hot enough :) |
| 12:38:15 | crash91 | Just curious, when I run the simulator, it says "Looking for album art for <file> and then "Album art found: cover.bmp", it prints the same message 6 times, but why would it do the check six times? |
| 12:38:57 | JdGordon_ | different locations and filenames |
| 12:39:07 | JdGordon_ | the AA wiki page says the order it looks for |
| 12:39:24 | crash91 | Oh, like cover.80x80.bmp |
| 12:39:30 | JdGordon_ | yes |
| 12:40:04 | crash91 | Shouldn't it terminate the loop when it finds the most suitable bitmap? |
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| 12:40:59 | crash91 | Nvm..that was a stupid question. |
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| 13:10:13 | Haos32 | Does somebody know where I can find a compiler for ColdFire 5249(it's used in iriver players). I found a link on rockbox.org but it doesn't work :(. Also i didn't find anyting useful with google |
| 13:11:55 | Bagder | gcc is fine |
| 13:12:01 | markun | Haos32: we have a tool in the rockbox source tree to build such a crosscompiler |
| 13:12:01 | Bagder | we use it all the time |
| 13:13:12 | petur | 'all the time' ? |
| 13:13:24 | markun | Haos32: I'll look it up for you, but my browser is not cooperating |
| 13:13:34 | * | gevaerts almost never uses gcc while sleeping |
| 13:13:50 | Bagder | we being more than one you know |
| 13:14:02 | * | petur last ran rockboxdev.sh about a year ago |
| 13:14:18 | markun | Haos32: here it is: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/rockboxdev.sh?revision=17636&content-type=text%2Fplain |
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| 13:14:35 | Bagder | petur: I spoke of gcc for coldfire |
| 13:15:04 | petur | :p |
| 13:16:39 | * | gevaerts still isn't convinced. Who exactly is this "we" then ? |
| 13:19:50 | JdGordon | is there any reason we dont have an option to turn off the LCD after some time (or have I missed it?) fine on mono targets you can sometimes read the screen without the backlight... but who cares about it updating while its in your pocket? |
| 13:22:47 | petur | I think somebody tried this and found the battery time gain to be almost none. Don't know what was disabled then (maybe just the LCD, not the paint code) |
| 13:24:56 | markun | according to kkurbjun there was quite a difference on the gigabeat |
| 13:25:11 | markun | but maybe it depends on the LCD panel |
| 13:25:11 | petur | oh... |
| 13:25:54 | petur | must be, unless the codec you use to test needs to boost |
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| 13:37:54 | pano | does anyone know a guide guideline to compile rockbox yourself on ubuntu? The one on the rockbox site doesn't help me |
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| 13:39:21 | Llorean | The one on the Rockbox site should have enough information. Where are you stuck? |
| 13:39:25 | PaulJam | which one did you follow? i found the SimpleGuideToCompiling quite useful. |
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| 13:43:05 | markun | pano: still there? |
| 13:43:14 | pano | yeah |
| 13:43:35 | markun | so, which guide did you look at? The SimpleGuideToCompiling? |
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| 13:43:58 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 13:43:59 | pano | one moment please i'll see my bookmarks^^ |
| 13:44:02 | markun | ok |
| 13:44:13 | markun | ah wait, windows only :) |
| 13:45:13 | markun | This should be a better place to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 13:45:59 | pano | yeah i tried the first one, thats where i have problem |
| 13:46:45 | pano | ah ok thanks the second link seems to be what i am looking for^^ |
| 13:46:48 | pano | thx! |
| 13:48:05 | markun | To build the crosscompiler with our tool you first need to download the source, so maybe that page could be rearanged a little bit |
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| 13:49:07 | pano | i will try that one later at home |
| 13:49:26 | markun | ok, good luck |
| 13:49:28 | pano | i hope i will do everything right |
| 13:49:31 | pano | ^^ |
| 13:49:43 | markun | Are you planning to work on rockbox or just to apply some patched? |
| 13:49:46 | markun | patches |
| 13:50:38 | pano | i wanted to compile my own rockbox build with some patches |
| 13:51:04 | pano | because most prebuild rockbox build are really bloated with patches i don't really need |
| 13:51:48 | pano | would compiling it with less patches speed rockbox up a little? |
| 13:52:01 | markun | depends on the patches |
| 13:52:43 | pano | i guess i will try it and see the results^^ |
| 13:54:54 | pano | well anyway thanks for your help |
| 13:55:01 | pano | bye |
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| 16:33:31 | cheebz | alright guys i got a serious problem here |
| 16:34:12 | cheebz | i plugged in my sansa e280 while it was in rockbox like a dumbass and now it says data abort at 0154001C (1) |
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| 16:34:23 | cheebz | and will not turn off, or do anything |
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| 16:35:51 | advcomp2019 | cheebz, have you tried using the reset(hold power up to about 30 seconds) |
| 16:36:01 | cheebz | mm not that long |
| 16:36:20 | cheebz | trying |
| 16:36:43 | cheebz | yep worked |
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| 16:36:48 | cheebz | thanks advcomp2019! |
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| 17:14:49 | Dhraakellian | dang. battery benchmark is worthless |
| 17:14:50 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 17:15:29 | Dhraakellian | well, I can at least check the .scrobbler.log to get a more general idea |
| 17:17:04 | markun | what went wrong with the battery benchmark? |
| 17:17:12 | Dhraakellian | so between 18h21 and 18h48 |
| 17:17:18 | Dhraakellian | flash-based player |
| 17:17:26 | markun | which player? |
| 17:17:28 | Dhraakellian | no drive spin-up to watch for |
| 17:17:39 | Dhraakellian | (if I'm understanding the issue correctly) |
| 17:17:42 | Dhraakellian | e260 |
| 17:17:49 | Dhraakellian | I guess it did need to be patched afterall |
| 17:18:34 | markun | I don't really undestand what the problem is, but hopefully people working on the sansa know what's going on |
| 17:18:56 | markun | do you know the runtime you can get with the OF? |
| 17:19:16 | Dhraakellian | haven't timed it yet |
| 17:19:28 | Dhraakellian | now with OF, you have to manually time it, right? |
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| 17:19:52 | gevaerts | You could connect it to the line in of a PC and record |
| 17:19:59 | markun | :) |
| 17:20:02 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 17:20:08 | markun | gevaerts: nice idea |
| 17:20:24 | markun | and then just look for the silence at the end |
| 17:20:55 | Dhraakellian | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SandiskE200BatteryMeasurements |
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| 17:28:12 | toffe82 | Dose somebody going to the devcon euro intersted in working on the gogear hdd6330 (to dump the bootloader and find the key), I can send one via scorche |
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| 17:28:56 | toffe82 | I don't have time to do :) |
| 17:30:09 | markun | I should spend my time on the meizu |
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| 17:31:58 | toffe82 | who is the specialist of the mi4 format, Bagder are you interested ? |
| 17:34:31 | markun | Which target is LinusN going to work on? :) |
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| 17:51:03 | yorky501 | does rockbox reduce the functionality of ipods output port i.e using docking stations or fm transmitters etc? |
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| 17:51:53 | markun | I see that ffmpeg now has a git repository which is automatically synced with svn, maybe we could do something like that too? |
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| 17:53:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | yorky501: Read this... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories |
| 17:53:45 | scorche|sh | first off, it doesnt reduce anything...it is a complete replacement so any "reductions" are a case of something not implemented yet....secondly, some functionalities will work, while others will not...this is due to us outputting through the line out and not having a proper serial or AAP implementation yet |
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| 17:56:18 | yorky501 | cool thanks for that |
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| 18:06:49 | low_light | toffe82: I'm making progress on the hdd1630 |
| 18:07:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: How's it looking so far? |
| 18:08:01 | low_light | got the BL & mi4 key. If I have time this afternoon, I should have a basic lcd driver |
| 18:08:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Nice! Good luck! :) |
| 18:09:29 | toffe82 | low_light: I wish my wife and kids let me more time ;) |
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| 18:10:10 | luisbg | hello all |
| 18:10:28 | luisbg | I wanted to know how much work would be involved in porting rockbox to the ipod classic |
| 18:10:40 | toffe82 | low_light: I tried to install rockboon the sa9200, I installed the bootloader but after, how do you install the rockbox files ? |
| 18:10:48 | toffe82 | rockbox ^^ |
| 18:12:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | luisbg: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 18:13:03 | low_light | toffe82: make a normal build, rename rockbox.mi4 to FWImage.ebn and install that via recovery mode. It will reboot into Rockbox, and complain about not finding .rockbox. Plug in USB. |
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| 18:13:20 | low_light | then copy the .rockbox/ directory |
| 18:13:50 | toffe82 | in the 16mb partition ? |
| 18:14:29 | low_light | No, with rockbox running, you'll get a mass storage device |
| 18:14:51 | luisbg | LambdaCalculus37, I was wondering why it was undeveloped... it seams the hardware is very different to the rest (which is ironic) |
| 18:14:56 | toffe82 | ok, I was building the bootloader |
| 18:15:08 | luisbg | I have some education in electronics but very little in assembler |
| 18:15:12 | luisbg | I wonder if I could pull it off |
| 18:15:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | No one's stopping you from trying. |
| 18:15:26 | toffe82 | I will try again |
| 18:15:33 | low_light | toffe82: the bootloader doesn't do much until it figure out how to get it to coexist with the OF for dual boot |
| 18:15:51 | toffe82 | ok |
| 18:16:56 | toffe82 | low_light: if nobody want to try the hdd6330 at the devcon, would you like to have it to try ? |
| 18:20:30 | low_light | toffe82: I can send you the bootloader I used to dump the 1630. It *should* work with the 6330 too. |
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| 18:30:44 | case_ | hi there |
| 18:31:28 | case_ | how can i find which generation of iPod (nano?) the device I have on my desk is ? |
| 18:31:34 | toffe82 | low_light: yes, I can try |
| 18:32:30 | scorche|sh | case_: google for pictures?...also, apple has a page somewhere |
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| 18:33:21 | case_ | ha, it's a 1gb, it should be a 1st gen nano... |
| 18:34:03 | case_ | looks like that : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353#ipodnano |
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| 18:36:19 | mcuelenaere | what would you guys buy for a new Rockbox target? a touchscreen DAP (keeping in mind Rockbox doesn't have rather good touchscreen support) or a similar (cheaper) DAP (with the same chipset) without the touchscreen but with pretty unhandy buttons (regarding button placement)? I really can't decide.. |
| 18:36:33 | case_ | ok, seems to be a good target for rockbox then :) i know what i'll do tonight :) |
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| 18:47:46 | toffe82 | low_light: email me the bootloader ;) |
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| 18:49:16 | bluebrother | what was the indication for a sansa v2? "Plays for sure"? |
| 18:49:30 | n1s | audible support iirc |
| 18:50:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | bluebrother: Audible support and a 03.XX.XX firmware. |
| 18:50:30 | bluebrother | ok, thanks. I knew about the firmware version but I can't see that from the picture ;-) |
| 18:50:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | bluebrother: Buying one online? :) |
| 18:51:15 | bluebrother | just browsing ebay. Missed a c200 sunday :( |
| 18:52:06 | Dhraakellian | I'd just keep an eye on woot.com |
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| 18:53:46 | bluebrother | they don't ship to outside the US unfortunately |
| 18:53:58 | Dhraakellian | they had an e280 last week and an e260 a little over a month—ah |
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| 18:55:15 | Dhraakellian | nevermind me, then... !;) |
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| 19:05:47 | bertrik | JdGordon, I have a question about unregister_ata_idle_func, are you around? |
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| 19:06:00 | bluebrother | domonoky: what's the point in keeping the wave files used for talkfile generation? |
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| 19:08:07 | domonoky | hm, i think i just copied all options from the normal voice script.. but its usefull for debugging problems :-) |
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| 19:13:01 | bluebrother | well, when fixing the long filename bug I thought about removing it −− for debugging we can still enable it in the source |
| 19:13:24 | bluebrother | maybe add a "extended" or "debug-enabled" configuration? |
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| 19:13:38 | bluebrother | I don't think it's useful for most users |
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| 19:14:36 | domonoky | jup, it could be removed.. |
| 19:17:11 | bluebrother | domonoky: seen this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17022.0;topicseen |
| 19:19:01 | domonoky | i havent seen this thread, but i know the problem.. unfortunatly i dont know whats wrong. All cutoff files i have decode fine with rbspeexdec, they are only cutoff in rockbox (target and sim) .. |
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| 19:35:21 | Bagder | pegasus hostel has an 8 bed room available still at least |
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| 19:40:28 | gevaerts | I'd say go for it. We have seven names on the room-sharing list, so that one is almost guaranteed to be full |
| 19:40:50 | Bagder | yeah, I'll proceed with the booking later tonight |
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| 19:43:27 | scorche|sh | do they have an internet connection? |
| 19:43:37 | Bagder | yes |
| 19:44:10 | Bagder | "Free internet access" |
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| 19:45:21 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 19:56:55 | shotofadds | anybody mind if I tweak the RGB colours used by zxbox? the current colours are really nothing like an actual Spectrum, and it's a simple fix |
| 19:57:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | Sure, go for it. :) |
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| 19:58:31 | * | LambdaCalculus37 thinks that zxbox on the Gigabeat models should be rotated 90 degrees; he's going to have a look at that when he gets a chance |
| 19:59:35 | * | shotofadds is rather impressed by zxbox on the D2. needs some changes for the touchscreen, but performance is good :) |
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| 20:01:30 | shotofadds | I'm not sure whether to bother posting a patch for this: in zx_vid_16bpp.c, change N1 to 0xC0 and B0 to 0x00, and {0x15, 0x15, 0x15} to {0,0,0}. Bingo! |
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| 20:01:47 | shotofadds | zxvid_16bpp.c, even |
| 20:02:27 | shotofadds | btw. these are the colours used by FUSE (free unix spectrum emulator) |
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| 20:06:25 | fml | Hello. I use cygwin under WinXP. Is the compiler package for coldfire avalable at http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin up to date? |
| 20:07:36 | fml | I once gor a warning that I have 3.4.5 but the recommended version is 3.4.6 |
| 20:07:57 | scorche|sh | Bagder: heh...they even seem to have a conference room |
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| 20:10:07 | n1s | fml: afaik it should work ok |
| 20:10:32 | fml | n1s: it works, yes. I just was confused because of the warning. |
| 20:10:49 | * | n1s hopes the gcc bug he found will be fixed before 4.4... |
| 20:11:09 | n1s | fml: well, it is not the recommended version |
| 20:12:15 | fml | There are two patches: FS #9034 and FS #9043. Combined, they would result in a good thing IMHO |
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| 20:14:00 | fml | n1s: why is it available as a part of the official rockbox package then? |
| 20:14:15 | n1s | because no one has made a newer package |
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| 20:15:28 | Lars_G | I think I know the response to this but I ask anyhow |
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| 20:15:56 | Lars_G | does the sansa e200 lack the phisical phone plugedness sensor, or is it a software lack? |
| 20:16:22 | fml | Lars_G: I think it it was available rockbox would use it |
| 20:16:34 | fml | So I conclude it's just not there |
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| 20:19:12 | Lars_G | Thanks |
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| 20:19:23 | bertrik | I think the as3514 built into the sansas can actually detect a headphone, but it can only detect plugin, not plugout |
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| 20:43:21 | Seldaek | any idea whether the ipod video 60/80gb rockbox version works on the ipod120gb ? |
| 20:43:36 | Seldaek | 160gb sorry |
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| 20:45:33 | scorche|sh | the front page will tell you |
| 20:46:17 | Seldaek | ahr, right, thanks |
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| 20:46:42 | Seldaek | any idea when it might be supported? |
| 20:47:09 | scorche|sh | nope |
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| 20:47:29 | zeno_ | if i brick my phone (cowon d2) trying to flash it, is it possible to fix? |
| 20:47:48 | zeno_ | s/phone/mp3player :) |
| 20:47:50 | scorche|sh | errrr...how do you use a d2 as a phone? |
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| 20:48:05 | shotofadds | I've yet to see anyone successfully brick a D2 |
| 20:48:31 | shotofadds | but yeah, you can recover from bad flashes using tcctool |
| 20:48:46 | zeno_ | good, thanks |
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| 20:49:30 | * | shotofadds wonders whether to commit that zxbox change and see if anyone notices... |
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| 20:55:18 | NET||abuse | hey guys, i have an old creative zen 8GB (microphoto is the model name) |
| 20:55:34 | NET||abuse | any chance there's a rock box version for it? i don't see on the current builds page |
| 20:55:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nope. |
| 20:55:52 | NET||abuse | oh :( damn |
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| 20:56:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | No one is working on a port for it. |
| 20:56:20 | NET||abuse | no demand? |
| 20:56:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | No, just no one working on it. |
| 20:56:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | The only "demand" comes from the owner of a device. |
| 20:56:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 20:56:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | And that's because it's the owner of the device that does the dirty work. |
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| 20:58:42 | NET||abuse | ahh, ok |
| 20:58:47 | NET||abuse | just reading that, |
| 20:59:08 | NET||abuse | is there a page up about each model at all? As in, is there a way to check if anyone has done any of the work at all before? |
| 20:59:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | There's this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus |
| 20:59:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | But seriously, if you want a port that badly, be prepared to do a *lot* of hard work to make that port happen. |
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| 21:04:01 | NET||abuse | ok, i can see a few zen entries there, but, not sure where to look, ok, i'll spend time researching and see where this one is at, if at all.. |
| 21:04:03 | NET||abuse | thanks for the pointers |
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| 21:53:03 | pixelma | so the Devcon participants who want to stay in a hostel decided on the "Pegasus Hostel"? |
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| 21:55:01 | scorche|sh | i think it was more an executive decision because no one else chose anything |
| 21:57:13 | pixelma | that's on the way amiconn has to drive from his home to Devcon place... (probably mine too) |
| 21:57:38 | pixelma | not from my home but the place I'll stay in Berlin |
| 21:57:48 | scorche|sh | i take it that this is a good thing? |
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| 21:58:46 | pixelma | yeah, guess we can take another 2-3 people with us if necessary (but amiconn has the last word on this - he's the car driver :P ) |
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| 22:00:23 | scorche|sh | any pubs nearby the hostel? ;) |
| 22:00:45 | pixelma | no idea (yet) |
| 22:01:58 | scorche|sh | i see there is a place inside the hostel, but no clue on how that is |
| 22:03:17 | pixelma | I think you'll find at least some along the "Karl-Marx-Allee", the next big street in northern direction |
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| 22:05:09 | Poison4 | hello, does anyone know if there is an sdk for rockbox to make .rock files? |
| 22:05:45 | * | domonoky is fine with this hostel.. |
| 22:05:46 | Bagder | yes |
| 22:05:49 | Bagder | that would be the normal rockbox build tools |
| 22:06:23 | domonoky | Poison4: you cant make those .rock files alone, just build the complete rockbox with configure/make .. |
| 22:06:58 | Poison4 | is there turorials on rockbox.org |
| 22:08:03 | domonoky | Poison4: take a look a rockboxs wiki, there are many doc for devs there.. |
| 22:08:19 | domonoky | s/doc/documents :-) |
| 22:08:26 | Bagder | pixelma: yeah, we're going with pegasus |
| 22:08:55 | pixelma | the flying horse? ;) |
| 22:09:17 | * | shotofadds takes the deafening silence about his zxbox change as a "yeah, commit it" :-) |
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| 22:09:41 | linuxstb | shotofadds: I don't think zxbox is the most popular plugin... |
| 22:10:25 | shotofadds | linuxstb: really? I'd never have expected that.... |
| 22:10:33 | pixelma | Bagder: but nice to hear that everything is on its way :) |
| 22:11:16 | Bagder | yeps, I'm looking forward to it! |
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| 22:13:09 | Poison4 | there should really be an avi plugin, so you dont have to convert to .mpg |
| 22:13:18 | shotofadds | linuxstb: at least I've got my priorities right. I could be working on something no-one wants, like sound on the d2... |
| 22:13:55 | linuxstb | Or a flash driver... |
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| 22:14:15 | * | linuxstb wonders how shotofadds will load all his .sna files |
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| 22:14:52 | shotofadds | well, preglow's SD driver will be working soon ;) |
| 22:15:18 | shotofadds | but seriously, the NAND driver is ok-ish if you know how to handle it... |
| 22:15:21 | PaulJam__ | Poison4: you'd probably still have to convert the videos to adjust the resolution to the screen |
| 22:16:00 | pixelma | and .avi is just a container... |
| 22:16:02 | * | shotofadds prefers .tzx anyway |
| 22:16:35 | linuxstb | Poison4: What device do you use Rockbox on? |
| 22:16:42 | BigBambi | still, feel free to write one... |
| 22:17:29 | pixelma | or am I confusing it with something else? |
| 22:17:45 | linuxstb | pixelma: No, you're right. |
| 22:17:49 | BigBambi | pixelma: if you mean avi, no, it is a container |
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| 22:19:16 | n1s | it is probably good that we _don't_ support any .avi files as that makes it very clear that you can't just copy any old video file over and expect it to work |
| 22:20:49 | * | shotofadds feels the need to write a 1-line .avi viewer: splash("RTFM!"); |
| 22:21:04 | PaulJam__ | can avi contain an mpeg1/2 srteam? if yes, then supporting .avi might be possible without too much work. |
| 22:23:51 | linuxstb | PaulJam__: But followed by many complaints that "my avi file doesn't work"... |
| 22:24:51 | Bagder | yeah, I think I'd rather have shotofadds' version |
| 22:26:25 | low_light | shotofadds: curious...why is the touchscreen button stuff call touchpad? |
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| 22:27:13 | low_light | I ask because the philips players I have (and the m:robe) have what I'd call a touchpad |
| 22:27:42 | low_light | ^ m:robe 100 that is |
| 22:28:21 | Bagder | toffe82: here? |
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| 22:28:47 | low_light | I was thinking of making a generic driver for touching, tapping, & sliding events |
| 22:29:24 | low_light | Bagder: I have a new mi4 key & bootloader for the philips hdd1630 |
| 22:29:33 | Bagder | ah, cool |
| 22:29:56 | low_light | I'll can email it later |
| 22:30:04 | Bagder | please do |
| 22:32:15 | Bagder | Llorean: FYI: I'm booking a room at the pegasus hostel for the 7 persons |
| 22:36:19 | toffe82 | yes |
| 22:36:44 | Bagder | I think low_light pretty much answered it with that mi4 info on the philips |
| 22:37:17 | Bagder | "it" being what I was gonna ask about |
| 22:37:44 | toffe82 | Bagder: I still have to do it on the hdd6330 |
| 22:37:56 | Bagder | ah, I didn't spot the different model number |
| 22:38:34 | toffe82 | one is microdrive and the other one standard drive |
| 22:38:44 | low_light | philips hdd1630 = 6GB mini2g clone |
| 22:39:01 | low_light | philips hdd6330 = 30GB ipod video clone |
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| 22:39:10 | Munkie | hey |
| 22:39:31 | toffe82 | Bagder: if I don't make it , would you like to play with it at the devcon ? |
| 22:39:43 | Munkie | whats rockbox programmed in? |
| 22:39:59 | Bagder | toffe82: sounds like fun, sure |
| 22:40:10 | Bagder | Munkie: mostly C |
| 22:40:40 | Munkie | ok. where could i get the source code? |
| 22:41:03 | Bagder | Munkie: I'd recommend getting it from the svn server |
| 22:41:55 | Munkie | i just want to look at a few small apps.. check if i can see whats going on.. |
| 22:42:30 | toffe82 | Bagder: if scorche|sh is still ok , I will send him the hdd6330 (and also the sa9200, and the hdd1630 if I can fix it) so you will have 3 philips gogear to play with |
| 22:42:38 | Bagder | Munkie: get the source archive at build.rockbox.org |
| 22:42:52 | Munkie | ty |
| 22:43:05 | Bagder | scorche might get a dap overload for his trip... |
| 22:43:51 | shotofadds | low_light: If I'd written the code I'd have called it touchscreen, but JdGordon did the original implementation for the m:robe 500. |
| 22:45:18 | low_light | ahhh...perhaps it would be best to switch notation...it is a touchSCREEN afterall |
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| 22:46:27 | scorche|sh | Bagder: yeah....i just hope i dont get trapped by customs ;) |
| 22:46:44 | toffe82 | :) |
| 22:47:21 | * | scorche|sh searches for any such posession fee they will charge if they think you are going to be selling, but coulsnt find any |
| 22:48:25 | scorche|sh | toffe82: so how is the Gigabeat V?...is it working with the S?...what is required to get it so if it is not? |
| 22:48:47 | toffe82 | I can send you the V too ;) |
| 22:49:25 | * | scorche|sh wonders if he will have any room for clothes |
| 22:49:52 | toffe82 | the version of windows is the same as the S, but it needs the mod for the updater and also the security |
| 22:50:11 | toffe82 | if somebody wants to do it |
| 22:50:17 | scorche|sh | what sort of "mod"? |
| 22:51:05 | toffe82 | the updater for the S works is originally for the v30T, it doesn't work on the v30 (the one available in the US) |
| 22:51:42 | scorche|sh | is the reason known? |
| 22:51:55 | toffe82 | and also there is to check the security hole |
| 22:52:54 | toffe82 | I am the only one having a V30, and don't really test it, I only tried one time |
| 22:54:42 | toffe82 | I have also a T400 if you want but this one is tricky , there is an updater for the T401, but not the t400 and it is a flash base so it is difficult to try something without the OF |
| 22:55:19 | scorche|sh | hrm...so we have not had code run on the V30 yet? |
| 22:55:33 | toffe82 | no |
| 22:56:26 | toffe82 | if somebpdy can check what did zunepet on the S and try to see if it is the same on the V, it should be easy |
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| 22:57:59 | Poison4 | linuxstb:sansa e250 |
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| 23:00:04 | shotofadds | low_light: In fact the ZVM port uses the word TOUCHPAD in the 'correct' sense. I guess "someone" should fix those 70-odd files... :/ |
| 23:01:19 | preglow | is there anything more boring than moving? :/ |
| 23:01:44 | shotofadds | yeah: debugging the d2 nand driver :p |
| 23:01:47 | toffe82 | so scorche|sh , you want everything (gigabeat V30, T400, Gogear Sa9200, hdd1630 and hdd6330) ;) |
| 23:02:08 | n1s | well, it's nice if you move to a better place :) |
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| 23:02:51 | preglow | shotofadds: i definitely think i disagree :> |
| 23:03:30 | shotofadds | hehe, is that the sound of you volunteering? |
| 23:03:36 | * | preglow runs |
| 23:03:52 | preglow | i've had a stint of disassembling, though |
| 23:04:04 | preglow | trying to find what the d2 firmware does when init sd |
| 23:04:05 | shotofadds | found anything interesting? |
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| 23:04:24 | preglow | we'll, i've mapped out a bunch of sd code, but found nothing that seems to do what i want |
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| 23:04:37 | preglow | it seems to touch a gpioc pin, but that had no effect when i did so |
| 23:05:11 | preglow | i probably won't have any rockbox time for a week or so now either |
| 23:05:57 | preglow | btw, have you found where the equivalent of pcf_write is? |
| 23:06:48 | preglow | any pcf communcation at all, really |
| 23:07:08 | shotofadds | I'm beginning to think about inserting some code into "an appropriate point" in the OF, eg. to jump to a stripped-down bootloader which displays the current PCF registers, GPIO values, etc. Might this be worth persuing? |
| 23:07:28 | shotofadds | yeah I have the pcf_write somewhere. what version of the OF are you looking at? |
| 23:08:06 | scorche|sh | toffe82: think i might skip on the T400, but otherwise and as long as devs are willing to have at the others, sure (i might try and find time for the V30) |
| 23:08:52 | preglow | shotofadds: would be interesting |
| 23:08:57 | preglow | shotofadds: 4.55 |
| 23:09:23 | toffe82 | scorche|sh: I will prepare them and send them at the end of the week , so you will have them next week, is that ok ? |
| 23:09:47 | scorche|sh | toffe82: sure...whatever works for you |
| 23:10:40 | shotofadds | ok, mine is 4.52 but the routine is easy to find. At 0x200000d4 there are 4 BLs in a row. Right after that is a LDR PC, xxxx. Follow that, then... |
| 23:11:47 | preglow | shotofadds: give bls in a row here :> but there is a jump sequence after that |
| 23:12:01 | toffe82 | scorche|sh: and if somebody want to buy one, no problem ;) |
| 23:12:25 | shotofadds | ..follow the first BL in that routine. There's a BL at the start, followed by what I believe to be the whole PCF init routine, starting with a test of GPIOB29. |
| 23:12:36 | shotofadds | preglow: give/five? |
| 23:12:42 | scorche|sh | toffe82: eh?...i need to try and sell them too? =P |
| 23:12:48 | preglow | shotofadds: five, yea |
| 23:12:59 | toffe82 | :) |
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| 23:13:08 | preglow | that ldr seems to jump to sdram init |
| 23:13:37 | shotofadds | hmm. wait a minute, let me have a look at 4.55 |
| 23:13:38 | preglow | first bl in that routine again jumps to a spot that does some gpio stuff, by the looks of the addresses it uses |
| 23:13:42 | toffe82 | scorche|sh: just joking but if really somebody wants one, no problem |
| 23:14:01 | shotofadds | is it 0xF005A040 bit 29? |
| 23:14:03 | scorche|sh | toffe82: are you referring to devs or regular people? |
| 23:14:29 | toffe82 | I was thinking devs |
| 23:15:06 | preglow | shotofadds: ahh, later in that routine i see some very familiar 8 bit numbers |
| 23:15:16 | preglow | fc, e8, f8, those look like voltage settings |
| 23:15:59 | shotofadds | are there a lot of MOV R1, #0x10, MOV R0,#7, BL .... ? |
| 23:16:18 | shotofadds | those are calls to i2c read/write (just don't ask me what the 7 is for) |
| 23:16:30 | preglow | yeah, there are |
| 23:16:38 | shotofadds | well you found it :-) |
| 23:16:41 | preglow | so the call right after that is i2c read write? |
| 23:16:45 | preglow | 7 might be pcf chip address? |
| 23:16:51 | shotofadds | nope, 0x10 is. |
| 23:17:08 | preglow | roit |
| 23:17:19 | preglow | so the bl right after that is i2c_write? |
| 23:17:27 | scorche|sh | toffe82: hrm...so you mean to give devs interested in making the port the device, but if they want to pay, let them? |
| 23:17:31 | preglow | eh. or _red |
| 23:17:34 | preglow | _READ |
| 23:17:54 | shotofadds | from the start of that routine.. it checks GPIOC29, then performs a read from PCF reg 2,3,4 |
| 23:18:02 | shotofadds | (R3 = count) |
| 23:18:17 | preglow | riiight, this is the code you've disassembled |
| 23:18:20 | preglow | and pastebinned me once |
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| 23:18:34 | shotofadds | yeah, you still got that? |
| 23:18:37 | preglow | deed |
| 23:18:48 | shotofadds | should make a good reference, then :) |
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| 23:19:24 | shotofadds | ..then reads reg 8, and write the value back to the PCF with bit 1 set. etc. |
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| 23:19:51 | preglow | good |
| 23:19:56 | preglow | i should be able to find most pcf comms, then |
| 23:20:07 | preglow | that should reveal if sd needs some special massaging |
| 23:20:19 | shotofadds | yeah, if it's not in this routine it should be easy to find. |
| 23:20:37 | preglow | i wonder why they bitbang their pcf i2c, afaik the chip has i2c controllers |
| 23:21:55 | shotofadds | it bit-bangs all i2c afaik. as do we. |
| 23:22:18 | preglow | well, don't have much a choice, do we :> |
| 23:22:37 | shotofadds | I wouldn't know... |
| 23:23:54 | scorche|sh | this tower is going to be massive this year.. |
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| 23:25:04 | shotofadds | preglow: I'm slightly intrigued why their startup code is structured differently between 4.52 and 4.55. You'd think that stuff would be pretty static. |
| 23:25:51 | preglow | indeed |
| 23:27:04 | przemhb | amiconn: yesterday you have asked me about sim output regarding AC3 playback messages - I have tried it today - when I try to play one of the files causing problems console output show nothing new |
| 23:27:24 | toffe82 | scorche|sh: show them, work on it, and if someone wants to keep it make him pay :) |
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| 23:29:32 | jhMikeS | preglow: 0xf0052000,40,80? (just a wild guess ;) |
| 23:30:25 | scorche|sh | toffe82: i have no idea what they are worth, but alright... |
| 23:30:52 | toffe82 | scorche|sh: I will let you know |
| 23:31:34 | jhMikeS | toffe82: have any more defunct boards around to send more thermistors from? I used the one off the tracing board. |
| 23:32:00 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: I should have one or two more |
| 23:32:24 | toffe82 | I will check |
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| 23:35:25 | jhMikeS | toffe82: if you don't want to send the whole board just a careful removal: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/TH_locator.jpg |
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| 23:37:36 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: did you find the reference of this thermistor ? |
| 23:38:23 | pixelma | scorche: read the log yesterday and wanted to add that I also get skipping of tracks (didn't find a thing in common for those yet) again. For me it was 2 tracks at once in a playlist on M5 (running a slightly older version, high 172xx) and once on the c200 (skipping one track, updated on Monday) |
| 23:39:19 | jhMikeS | toffe82: no, I did it experimentally so runs on more than one would add some accuracy and hopefully help to cancel component tolerance out |
| 23:39:19 | pixelma | interesting in the latter: it was the same track that regularly got skipped during the "skip 3rd song in a playlist" bug, even though it was not 3rd in this playlist but it's still 3rd in that directory/album |
| 23:40:47 | k4y | hey, i was wondering if someone could give me some advice |
| 23:41:47 | k4y | my iAudio X5 is dying and i'd like to get another HDD portable media device and run rockbox on it, could someone maybe suggest some devices that wouldn't be too hard to get hold of that rockbox currently works on (or are under heavy development and likely to work on in the reasonably near future)? |
| 23:42:13 | k4y | when i say "too hard to get hold of" i really mean a device that i could buy retail (ie. not off ebay etc.) |
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| 23:43:15 | k4y | i've been looking through the list of supported (and players being developed for) on the wiki but i'm not entirely sure which of these players is a good piece of equipment and which are still being produced |
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| 23:44:37 | Bagder | k4y: no player is available new that currently runs rockbox really fine |
| 23:44:48 | advcomp2019 | k4y, do you know what is wrong with x5? |
| 23:46:19 | k4y | advcomp2019: the battery life is just really poor |
| 23:47:00 | k4y | Bagder: that's a pity, really |
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| 23:47:19 | Bagder | k4y: yes, I think we all agree on that |
| 23:47:43 | advcomp2019 | you know that you can get replacement battery if you like the x5 |
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| 23:49:05 | k4y | advcomp2019: the X5 has some minor annoyances, if i could upgrade my experience that would be preferrable |
| 23:49:28 | k4y | advcomp2019: also, i live outside of the US, so that might be hard for me to achieve |
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| 23:51:09 | k4y | out of the currently supported HDD players (that are reasonably [a year or two at the most] new), which are generally considered to be good players? |
| 23:51:12 | jhMikeS | replacement batteries should be available |
| 23:52:34 | jhMikeS | CameronSino JNC SSF-M3, 20G (PPCW0401, PPCW0504) 1100mAh |
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| 23:55:04 | toffe82 | jhMikeS: strange that there is no mention of a thermistor in the part list of the S |
| 23:55:04 | Dhraakellian | k4y: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide ? |
| 23:55:35 | k4y | Dhraakellian: oh excellent, thanks |
| 23:55:45 | jhMikeS | toffe82: it's in the power block diagram |
| 23:56:14 | Absnthe | what do I do if my ipod wont show up in ipodpatcher? |
| 23:56:16 | toffe82 | yes but the part list doesn't show it, only standard resistor |
| 23:57:05 | jhMikeS | toffe82: it's obviously there and doesn't behave like a resistor at all :) |
| 23:57:13 | pixelma | Absnthe: what Ipod model exactly? |
| 23:57:44 | Dhraakellian | I went with a SanDisk Sansa e260 a month or so (off of Woot.com, since I'm happily within the US). It's flash-based, but I plan on getting a microSDHC card within the next month or two, which should double, triple, or even quintuple the storage space, depending on what size I get |
| 23:57:52 | Absnthe | I believe it is a 4G. |
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