| 00:00:08 | gevaerts | I'm on linux |
| 00:00:18 | CL | cool. what distro? |
| 00:00:42 | CL | **** windows |
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| 00:00:57 | CL | it just destroied my .rockbox folder. |
| 00:01:13 | CL | and deleted all of my music |
| 00:01:16 | gevaerts | debian unstable, but this is getting off-topic. If you want to talk more about these side-things, #rockbox-community is more suited |
| 00:01:32 | gevaerts | ouch... |
| 00:02:06 | CL | well thanks for your help. |
| 00:03:08 | gevaerts | NP :) |
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| 00:04:27 | CL | OK a new related quiestion. is there a way to force windows to load the e200 ONLY in UMS mode? |
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| 00:04:45 | Robust2 | amiconn, are you there ? |
| 00:05:00 | gevaerts | I think that depends on the OF version |
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| 00:06:22 | CL | let me rephrase. I know the c200 will load UMS mode if there is no driver for MCE mode on the client OS. Can i get rid of the MCE mode driver? |
| 00:06:25 | CL | some how |
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| 00:07:50 | gevaerts | Some firmware versions let you choose, so by installing the right one you can get that, yes. I'm not sure which version you need |
| 00:09:04 | CL | ic thanks |
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| 00:10:12 | saratoga | i'm really stumped by the lack of improvement using 32 bit multiplies on my sansa for mp3 |
| 00:10:37 | saratoga | as far as i can tell, they're being used, but i don't get a speed up verses 32x32->64 multiplies |
| 00:12:21 | CL | UPDATE: My music isn't gone. it was just in a different format (MTP .dat) . I found it by going into mtp mode. |
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| 00:21:19 | CL | for all who want to know, the last Sansa c200 series firmware with the MTP/UMS mode switch is 1.00.04 and can be downloaded here: http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/c200/v1/firmware/1.00.04/ |
| 00:21:46 | advcomp2019 | CL, that is known |
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| 00:22:11 | CL | fun. i just spent 20 mins looking it up :-). |
| 00:23:06 | saratoga | next time just read the FAQ |
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| 00:32:51 | saratoga | what do i have to include to get DEBUGF in a codec? |
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| 00:39:04 | CL | hi again. Now that i have rockbox properly working again, I was wondering if it was possible to configure .talk files to play after the song rather than before. |
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| 01:20:32 | saratoga | (for the logs) I'm pretty stuck with my SOC project |
| 01:20:55 | saratoga | i'm not really sure how to procede tracking down this plugin buffer error |
| 01:21:03 | saratoga | if anyone has any ideas, i'd love to hear them |
| 01:22:01 | markun | saratoga: where do you have the code for people to look at? |
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| 01:32:05 | rezendes | hey ppl I need some help, I'm at work and I have no access to .exe files, But I can download .zip files fine... anyways I need someone to please download the bootloader http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher/win32/sansapatcher.exe and put it in a zip file for me to download please... can email to me, just msg me Thanks |
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| 01:36:32 | CL | Hello I looked in the documentation and the FAQs, but I found no info. Is there a way to voice the upcoming song (ie through the use of .talk files) in regular playback? |
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| 01:42:34 | CL | hi |
| 01:43:01 | * | CL notes: wrong forum. |
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| 01:48:20 | CL | hi is there a way for rockbox to announce the next song in the now playing list? |
| 01:50:43 | rezendes | hey cl |
| 01:50:48 | rezendes | can you help me? |
| 01:51:13 | CL | maybe.. |
| 01:51:26 | rezendes | I am trying to install rockbox at work but they block .exe files, but I Can download .zip files fine, I need someon to zip up the sansa e250 bootloader for me to download |
| 01:51:53 | CL | sure. give me a min. |
| 01:51:58 | rezendes | thanks bro |
| 01:52:04 | rezendes | much appreciated |
| 01:52:12 | CL | no problem. |
| 01:52:16 | rezendes | u can email it to me |
| 01:52:38 | CL | do you have admin rights on your computer? |
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| 01:52:44 | CL | or do you have a limited user account? |
| 01:53:24 | rezendes | yeah I have admin |
| 01:53:28 | rezendes | on another pc |
| 01:53:53 | rezendes | and it's off the whole network, that's the only way I am able to run the exe files |
| 01:54:19 | CL | ok. is it 100% for sure a e200, or it it an e200r? |
| 01:54:38 | rezendes | 100% sure e200 series e250 2gb Not e200r |
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| 01:55:57 | CL | ok http://www.lewisoft.net/sansapatcher.zip |
| 01:56:06 | CL | oops |
| 01:56:27 | rezendes | will that link work? |
| 01:56:28 | CL | wrong server. that one has hotlinking disabled. |
| 01:56:36 | CL | it will kick you out. |
| 01:56:38 | CL | sec. |
| 01:57:16 | rezendes | yep I noticed. |
| 01:57:37 | rezendes | that your own website or something? |
| 01:57:56 | CL | http://www.thefreewebhost.net/sansapatcher.zip |
| 01:57:58 | CL | yes |
| 01:58:03 | rezendes | cool thanks |
| 01:58:04 | CL | that one too. |
| 01:58:16 | CL | I do a bit of web programming and I had hotlinking problems. |
| 01:58:23 | rezendes | sweet I got it now, thanks so much |
| 01:58:34 | CL | no problem let me know if you need anything else. |
| 01:58:40 | rezendes | cool |
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| 02:09:22 | pixelma | why not use the automated install then? (linked from the manual and comes in packages (e.g. zip for the windows one...) |
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| 02:27:25 | danielblanche54 | Hi, I have a question. |
| 02:27:40 | danielblanche54 | I didn't mean to hit enter so soon, I'll get to the question. |
| 02:29:21 | danielblanche54 | I was a rockbox user until my iPod (80GB) would complain of a drained battery that was around 97% a few seconds before a shutdown. The batter wasn't dead, and this happened on multipule occasions. I don't know what the problem was, but it is the only reason I'm not using rockbox at the moment. I would like to know if there is a solution to this or if someone knows what I'm doing wrong. Thaks |
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| 02:35:42 | danielblanche54 | Is this problem I'm having an isolated incident? |
| 02:38:39 | cool_walking_ | It sounds like a hardware issue to me, but did you update your version of Rockbox right before it happened? |
| 02:39:14 | danielblanche54 | I honestly don't remember, I came back hoping for a solution, but I don't believe I did. |
| 02:39:26 | danielblanche54 | but I might have |
| 02:39:41 | danielblanche54 | Thinking about it, its probable that I did |
| 02:39:59 | cool_walking_ | Well then try reverting to an older build. |
| 02:40:08 | danielblanche54 | And I never had a problem running the official apple firmware |
| 02:40:09 | danielblanche54 | and thanks |
| 02:40:21 | danielblanche54 | I'm going to install it again later, see where that leads me |
| 02:40:28 | danielblanche54 | I'll be back if there is a problem |
| 02:40:33 | danielblanche54 | thank you |
| 02:40:36 | cool_walking_ | okay |
| 02:40:41 | cool_walking_ | no problem |
| 02:41:00 | danielblanche54 | I'm running linux if thats any help |
| 02:41:06 | danielblanche54 | but probably not |
| 02:41:25 | cool_walking_ | I don't think it affects anything at this point |
| 02:41:35 | danielblanche54 | ok, thanks |
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| 03:24:32 | Xqtftqx | Hey Guys |
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| 03:24:53 | Xqtftqx | I see the gigabeat s doesnt have a easy install via widnows |
| 03:25:10 | Xqtftqx | why? i installed via windows easier then linux |
| 03:25:15 | {Nathan}_ | Rockbox's database doesn't find any of my music that I recently added. Apple's Ipod OS finds (and plays!) all of it... any ideas? |
| 03:25:55 | Xqtftqx | (nathan)_ in rockbox |
| 03:26:13 | Xqtftqx | enable show hidden files and look inside Ipod_Controll/Music |
| 03:26:42 | Xqtftqx | there will be a couple of folders |
| 03:26:45 | Xqtftqx | look through |
| 03:26:49 | Xqtftqx | try to find the music |
| 03:27:06 | Llorean | Xqtftqx: He rather clearly said he wanted the database to find it. |
| 03:27:16 | Llorean | {Nathan}_: Did you tell the database to update? |
| 03:27:29 | {Nathan}_ | Llorean: I guess that's what I'm asking how to do |
| 03:27:40 | Llorean | Well, that's in the manual |
| 03:27:51 | {Nathan}_ | There's a manual? |
| 03:27:54 | * | {Nathan}_ goes to rtfm |
| 03:27:56 | Llorean | Yes... |
| 03:28:03 | Llorean | The link that says "Manual" on the webpage? |
| 03:28:09 | Llorean | Where you should've got your install instructions from... |
| 03:28:22 | {Nathan}_ | I just downloaded the auto-install app and did everything from there :p |
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| 04:24:20 | natibo | I have read many old messages with my problem and have tried about every fix I could find.' |
| 04:24:21 | natibo | However, I still cannot get my 60GB video iPod to display album art. I downloaded the cirrect version of rockbox and then updated it to the daily build. |
| 04:25:29 | krazykit | and read the AlbumArt wiki page to make sure you set it up right? |
| 04:25:39 | natibo | Yes |
| 04:26:00 | natibo | I have saved the album art as a 100x100 .bmp in all of these formats/places: |
| 04:26:01 | natibo | ./ filename .bmp - same filename as currently playing music file |
| 04:26:01 | natibo | ./ albumtitle .bmp - name of the album, found in metadata of the music file |
| 04:26:01 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK natibo |
| 04:26:01 | natibo | ./cover.bmp |
| 04:26:32 | natibo | am trying to use either the cool blue theme or irock v2 theme |
| 04:26:50 | natibo | The themes work, but without the album art. |
| 04:26:50 | natibo | I have tried editing the .wps file to have this as the last lines: |
| 04:26:50 | natibo | %Cl|50|70|c100|b100| |
| 04:26:50 | natibo | %C |
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| 04:26:50 | natibo | I am at a loss as to what to do next. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 04:54:22 | cool_walking_ | natibo: WPSes have to explicitly use album art. I'm not good with WPS syntax, but the lines in the text file somewhat represent the vertical positioning of the WPS, so since you added the line to the bottom, maybe the cover is just being drawn past the bottom of the screen. |
| 04:54:27 | cool_walking_ | cover.bmp works for me |
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| 04:57:34 | wpyh | anyone here has any idea on FS #5942? |
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| 05:08:40 | saratoga | wpyh: that request sounds pretty reasonable, so if someone took an interest i'm sure it could be commited |
| 05:09:19 | wpyh | ok |
| 05:09:30 | wpyh | I'm not signing up though, but yes it looks nice |
| 05:12:00 | wpyh | by the way, does anyone here have experience with formatting FAT32 partitions on ipod 5.5g? |
| 05:12:21 | wpyh | the main catch being that the storage is exported as 2048 byte sectors |
| 05:12:36 | wpyh | I see here that one must use mformat: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore |
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| 05:12:47 | wpyh | But I've successfully formatted my ipod using mkfs.vfat |
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| 05:16:38 | saratoga | markun: heres a patch http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/sdl.patch |
| 05:17:15 | saratoga | its a mess but it should add a "rockbox as an app" option to configure which builds and runs, but crashes with an undefined symbol if you try to decode a file |
| 05:17:44 | saratoga | i'm puzzled by the message since i can't figure out how it thinks that symbol is needed, theres no obvious reference to it anywhere in the source that isn't ifdef'ed out |
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| 05:54:07 | wpyh | well, no one here seems to know, so I updated the wiki with some extra comments |
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| 08:22:59 | GodEater | wpyh: The instruction to use mformat isn't because the ipod is a 5.5G, but rather because mkfs.vfat doesn't work correctly on FAT32 volumes over a given size (about 32GB I think). |
| 08:23:29 | GodEater | so mkfs.vfat will likely be fine with your new CF converted ipod, because the volume size is now so small. |
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| 08:24:45 | wpyh | GodEater: well I misunderstood the original comments then |
| 08:24:55 | amiconn | GodEater: Iirc mkfs.vfat doesn't work correctly with logical sector sizes != 512 bytes |
| 08:24:56 | wpyh | I will try mkfs.vfat later with my 80GB disk |
| 08:25:04 | wpyh | amiconn: it does |
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| 08:25:38 | amiconn | And that oddity applies to all G5.5's, 80GB, 30GB, or CF modded |
| 08:25:40 | wpyh | amiconn, GodEater: well, the situation seems murky now... does it fail with sector sizes not 512 bytes, or with large drives? |
| 08:26:17 | wpyh | well I don't have Windows. But my 5.5G iPod now works perfectly well with the OF, with RB and with my Linux laptop |
| 08:26:29 | wpyh | amiconn: did you forget to use the "-S" switch? |
| 08:27:22 | amiconn | It's just what I remember from reports. I didn't try it myself; I'd use windows to format fat32 |
| 08:27:24 | linuxstb__ | saratoga: (for the logs) your new #if in codec_crt0.c looks wrong - I think it should be &&, not ||. Also, "#warning" is a useful pre-processor command - add them into the code to see what is being compiled. |
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| 08:29:13 | wpyh | well, I'd think they forgot to use the -S switch then... |
| 08:30:10 | linuxstb | Maybe it's simply a bug that's been fixed in mkfs.vfat. It was a year or so ago when people were first trying it. |
| 08:30:27 | GodEater | yes that's also possible |
| 08:30:34 | GodEater | although I'm not keen to try it to find out |
| 08:31:00 | wpyh | Uh, no |
| 08:31:01 | GodEater | linuxstb: what time are we meeting tonight btw ? |
| 08:31:07 | wpyh | I'm using mkfs.vfat dated 2005 |
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| 08:31:22 | wpyh | mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 08:32:00 | wpyh | And there's this switch I think people forgot to use : [-S logical-sector-size] |
| 08:32:13 | linuxstb | wpyh: Reading the #rockbox logs, the problem (even using -S) was that the Apple OS couldn't write to the disk. I think this was before Rockbox supported 2048-byte sectors. |
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| 08:32:23 | linuxstb | wpyh: No, people were using -S |
| 08:32:30 | wpyh | um.... |
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| 08:33:39 | wpyh | how do I search the logs? (I mean all at once, not one by one) |
| 08:33:49 | scorche|sh | google |
| 08:34:08 | scorche|sh | learning how to use google well is a very nice skill ;) |
| 08:34:16 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 08:34:16 | * | amiconn uses a local mirror of the logs with grep |
| 08:34:21 | * | linuxstb too... |
| 08:34:25 | scorche|sh | in this case you can do "query site:www.rockbox.org/irc" |
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| 08:34:58 | GodEater | linuxstb/amiconn: do you find that gives better results than using the google method ? |
| 08:35:03 | scorche|sh | i find google finds stuff easier than grep if i do not know the exact phase, but i know a couple words that could be on a line |
| 08:35:11 | scorche|sh | however, if i know the quote, i go to grep |
| 08:35:47 | linuxstb | GodEater: I haven't really tried google - grep is always good enough (or often, multiple greps, piping results from one grep into another) |
| 08:35:49 | wpyh | well... |
| 08:36:08 | wpyh | I'm a google newb I guess :p |
| 08:36:26 | phenobitch | I'm a grep newb. |
| 08:36:33 | scorche|sh | then learn... |
| 08:36:58 | * | wpyh tries to learn google |
| 08:37:28 | wpyh | linuxstb: by the way, uh what do you mean the Apple OS couldn't write to disk (how do I detect that error?) |
| 08:38:08 | linuxstb | wpyh: I don't know... I didn't really pay close attention. I read that in the logs for 2007-05-30 |
| 08:38:29 | wpyh | OK, let's see those logs |
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| 08:39:59 | wpyh | ok, it seems that DerPapst had a problem |
| 08:40:17 | LinusN | meh, pondlife messed up the "Playback" menu item in the settings menu |
| 08:40:44 | LinusN | now it says "Playback Settings", while no other menu item has the word "Settings" appended |
| 08:41:41 | wpyh | DerPapst: are you still using mformat to format your iPod partition? |
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| 09:01:16 | Lartza_ | Hi! |
| 09:01:25 | Lartza_ | is there more games for rockbox, how can i port/make a game for rockbox? |
| 09:01:38 | Lartza_ | more games OR programs |
| 09:02:15 | scorche|sh | do you know C? |
| 09:02:53 | Lartza_ | I don't |
| 09:03:02 | Lartza_ | but I could learn to get more games |
| 09:03:05 | Lartza_ | and programs |
| 09:03:25 | Lartza_ | are rockbox games/programs coded in C? |
| 09:03:32 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:03:48 | scorche|sh | well, games can take a bit of effort to port...with conversion to C, flixed vs floating point, etc |
| 09:03:58 | Lartza_ | yea... |
| 09:04:07 | Lartza_ | i think i forget that :) |
| 09:04:07 | LinusN | definitely not an easy thing |
| 09:04:16 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:04:18 | Lartza_ | but how about some more games/programs |
| 09:04:37 | LinusN | well, to get more games, someone will have to port or write them |
| 09:04:37 | Lartza_ | maybe i should google rockbox games... |
| 09:04:53 | Lartza_ | i bet someone has ported some games himself |
| 09:05:04 | Lartza_ | or for the world |
| 09:05:10 | LinusN | don't hold your breath |
| 09:05:48 | Lartza_ | does rockbox only have gb/gbc emulator? |
| 09:05:54 | Lartza_ | is there any other for it? |
| 09:06:16 | scorche|sh | any other what? |
| 09:06:28 | Lartza_ | like nes emulator? |
| 09:06:47 | Lartza_ | and i tried to run some homebrew gbc on ipodlinux and the colors were bad |
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| 09:10:33 | Lartza_ | what is the arcade game called which roms i need? |
| 09:10:40 | cool_walking_ | There's a patch for a NES emulator but I don't think it's really at a usable state. |
| 09:10:46 | cool_walking_ | Pacman? |
| 09:10:57 | Lartza_ | cant find it here then... |
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| 09:11:15 | markun | Lartza_: was the homebrew good in rockbox and only bad in ipodlinux? |
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| 09:15:11 | * | wpyh recommends "bubbles" |
| 09:27:39 | Lartza_ | what pacman does pacbox support? i cant find the *.5e and *.5f files |
| 09:27:54 | GodEater | does anyone know if JdGordon's proprosed wps changes are going to break our default theme ? |
| 09:27:56 | scorche|sh | Lartza_: you need to dump those from the arcade cart |
| 09:28:11 | scorche|sh | Lartza_: read the plugin PluginPacbox for more info |
| 09:28:14 | Lartza_ | what game, just pacman? |
| 09:28:40 | scorche|sh | Lartza_: that wiki page may fill in some holes ;) |
| 09:29:30 | Lartza_ | it wont |
| 09:30:14 | Lartza_ | and is oucman from falcom the other supported? |
| 09:33:49 | linuxstb | Lartza_: The "puckman" romset for MAME may help you |
| 09:34:55 | Lartza_ | downside is that rockbox has no usb thingy, it used disk mode, but good side is that rockbox boots fast |
| 09:35:43 | Lartza_ | says bno roms in pacman... |
| 09:36:54 | linuxstb | Lartza_: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox - you must have all 6 files, ,with those filenames, and those md5sums |
| 09:39:03 | Lartza_ | how to quit rockdoom? :D |
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| 09:39:33 | scorche|sh | Lartza_: have you read the manual? |
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| 09:39:35 | Lartza_ | how fast is rockboy? |
| 09:39:51 | scorche|sh | try it and find out ;) |
| 09:40:06 | Lartza_ | i will |
| 09:40:13 | Lartza_ | but how to quit rockdoom :( |
| 09:40:15 | linuxstb | Lartza_: Most people complain that it's slow... |
| 09:40:27 | Lartza_ | someone find it faster than iboy |
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| 09:40:44 | linuxstb | Lartza_: Turn the hold switch on to access the menu (I'm assuming you're using an ipod) |
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| 09:41:08 | Lartza_ | ty |
| 09:41:16 | Lartza_ | didnt try that... |
| 09:42:02 | * | GodEater would suggest reading the manual |
| 09:43:35 | Lartza_ | i just was tryiing if it works |
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| 09:43:41 | Lartza_ | i will read |
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| 09:50:19 | pixelma | GodEater: reading logs - which default theme do you mean? |
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| 09:50:37 | GodEater | pixelma: cabbiev2 |
| 09:52:57 | pixelma | yes, if everything gets committed then all themes break, including cabbiev2. There's a change for the progressbar tag(s) which will break it, conditional viewports wouldn't break it but it is planned that they will replace the scrolling margins tag at some point in time |
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| 09:56:03 | GodEater | I just figure if anyone is planning on introducing a change which breaks our "preferred" theme, then they ought to be commiting fixes to that theme at the same time too |
| 09:56:13 | GodEater | or at least co-ordinate with a WPS type person at the same time |
| 09:56:55 | pixelma | he's aware of that (and already asked me) |
| 09:57:25 | GodEater | in that case my fears are calmed ; |
| 09:57:26 | GodEater | ;) |
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| 09:58:40 | * | JdGordon wonders why GodEater thinks I would comit the patch without fixing all shipped wps'? |
| 09:59:52 | GodEater | I wasn't suggesting you'd do it on purpose, I was just checking you'd thought of that. Which you had. |
| 09:59:55 | GodEater | so all is good :) |
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| 10:00:18 | pixelma | JdGordon: all shipped one? Have fun... ;) |
| 10:00:29 | pixelma | *ones |
| 10:00:44 | JdGordon | well... fixing %pb on the shipped ones shouldnt be hard |
| 10:01:29 | JdGordon | it looks like everyone prefers the idea of commiting both in one hit instead of staggered... |
| 10:02:55 | pixelma | I don't remember someone saying anything about preferences |
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| 10:03:14 | JdGordon | linuxstb wants them done staggered |
| 10:08:51 | * | linuxstb would prefer conditional viewports to go in first (with no other changes to WPS syntax), and then the other changes made at a later time, giving people time to change (and test...) WPSs with official builds. |
| 10:10:16 | pixelma | JdGordon: who's "everyone" then? And I'd also prefer one change at a time |
| 10:10:48 | JdGordon | everyone is the people who have expressed an opinion (whihc is really everyone but you two...) |
| 10:10:59 | JdGordon | conditional viewports is broken without the change to %P/%pb |
| 10:11:20 | JdGordon | that change would break 99% of all WPS so it makes little sense to break them all again in 2 weeks or whenever |
| 10:12:54 | linuxstb | You don't _have_ to change the %P/%pb syntax to implement multiple progress bars though. Those tags could be local to the current viewport, and maintain backwards compatibility. |
| 10:12:59 | PaulJam | in order to give the WPS authors time to test the changes it would propably be good if someone could provide uisimulators with both patches. |
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| 10:14:25 | JdGordon | linuxstb: sure... but we also have better things we could be doing with our time than holding peoples hands... |
| 10:15:39 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Exactly, which is why we should always aim for backwards compatibility - so we don't get surprised users. |
| 10:16:12 | crash91 | After a day or two there will be a stream of users asking what happened to their WPS's here or in the forums. |
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| 10:19:18 | JdGordon | thats going to happen anyway |
| 10:24:40 | PaulJam | what is the status on the rockbox-themes page? it that page could go up at the same time the people with broken themes could be sent there to look for an updated version of the theme. |
| 10:25:30 | Lartza_ | rockboy is so slow! |
| 10:25:32 | Lartza_ | omg |
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| 10:27:51 | PaulJam | Lartza_: grab the sourcecode and optimise it! :) |
| 10:27:57 | JdGordon | linuxstb: also, the %pb syntax has completly changed.... it used to be top|left|right|bottom which was nothing like any other tag, now its normal x|y|w|h| |
| 10:28:14 | JdGordon | another reason why we shouldnt worry about changing it so it stays compatible |
| 10:32:49 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I know, but I feel strongly that conditional viewports need to be in official builds for at least a few weeks (if not longer) before %m is considered for removal. Changing a WPS to use conditional viewports is non-trivial. |
| 10:33:36 | JdGordon | it is trivial... |
| 10:36:16 | JdGordon | im tempted to write a script to do it, but my script-fu is lacking... |
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| 11:01:49 | Acorn | Hey, does anyone know, if the battery in my h300 had died, is it possible to plug the hard disk into my computer to get the data off? Does it have a normal connector? |
| 11:03:05 | JdGordon | you need an adaptor |
| 11:03:35 | Acorn | what sort of connector is it? |
| 11:03:45 | JdGordon | 1.8" ata |
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| 11:05:54 | Acorn | isn't that like a normal computer hard disk? |
| 11:07:39 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:08:26 | Acorn | i'm trying to find it on wikipedia but it just comes up with things that seem like normal connectors |
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| 11:11:42 | Acorn | "ATA: Known also as IDE" Isn't ide a normal hard disk connector? |
| 11:11:58 | Acorn | IDE is old and SATA is new? |
| 11:12:22 | JdGordon | yes |
| 11:12:36 | JdGordon | it uses a thinner connector than regular 3.5" hard disks |
| 11:12:39 | JdGordon | \you have to get an adaptor |
| 11:14:02 | Acorn | oh, it's because it's a different disk size |
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| 11:14:16 | Acorn | I wonder if there's some way of temporarily powering it from batteries |
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| 11:14:33 | pixelma | you might also want to have a look here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement#Iriver |
| 11:16:18 | Acorn | thanks :) |
| 11:16:23 | Lartza_ | How to check MD5 in windows? |
| 11:16:40 | B4gder | MS calculator! ;-) |
| 11:16:55 | Lartza_ | seriously... |
| 11:17:05 | Galois | http://etree.org/md5com.html |
| 11:17:07 | B4gder | there are md5sum tools |
| 11:17:25 | Lartza_ | Thank you Galois |
| 11:18:04 | Lartza_ | but i dont have md5 file, just sum |
| 11:18:19 | JdGordon | Lartza_: this has nothing to do with rockbox.... |
| 11:18:26 | Lartza_ | it has |
| 11:18:31 | Lartza_ | pacbox |
| 11:18:44 | Lartza_ | i need to check md5 |
| 11:18:45 | Lartza_ | pacman.5e 2791455babaf26e0b396c78d2b45f8f6 |
| 11:18:52 | Lartza_ | but i dont have md5 file |
| 11:18:56 | JdGordon | well then, 1) it doesnts 2) we arnt going to help you get illegal files |
| 11:19:06 | Lartza_ | its not illegal |
| 11:19:13 | Lartza_ | extract from arcade cart |
| 11:19:22 | Lartza_ | its not illegal to check md5... |
| 11:19:41 | PaulJam | shouldn't the h300 boot with the charger connected even when the battery is dead? i think i remember that someone even was able to boot it without a battery connected. |
| 11:19:58 | Galois | dude, if you can't figure out how to use md5sum.exe, then you wouldn't have been able to figure out how to extract a rom from a cartridge |
| 11:20:06 | Lartza_ | PaulJam: That's what I said |
| 11:21:44 | Acorn | Jdgordon: any idea if it's the same as a 2.5" connecter? Then maybe I could put it in my laptop to recover the data |
| 11:24:07 | * | B4gder moves the attachment from the wiki front page |
| 11:24:12 | B4gder | removes even |
| 11:24:33 | pixelma | I already wondered why it keep reappearing |
| 11:24:41 | pixelma | *keeps too |
| 11:24:46 | B4gder | MarcGuay attached them there, I don't know why |
| 11:25:59 | PaulJam | Acorn: it's not the same connector. have you already tried to boot the h300 with the charger connected to recover your data? |
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| 11:26:47 | B4gder | the svn server seems to be unreachable at least for me |
| 11:27:01 | Acorn | PaulJam: it worked with the charger for a bit, but when I realised that it wasn't charging and the battery had died it stopped working from the charger |
| 11:27:57 | Acorn | PaulJam: I just plugged it in and it switched on! |
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| 11:29:01 | Lartza_ | whats difference of pacman and puckman? |
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| 11:43:01 | B4gder | certain shirts have arrived to a non-disclosed location... |
| 11:43:17 | dionoea | gevaerts: ping. |
| 11:45:18 | markun | what's wrong with svn.rockbox.org? |
| 11:45:27 | B4gder | it seems to be dead atm |
| 11:45:38 | B4gder | I don't know more than that yet |
| 11:45:46 | markun | ok |
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| 11:46:08 | pondlife | LinusN: Ping |
| 11:46:27 | gevaerts | dionoea: pong |
| 11:46:42 | pondlife | Wooh, overlapping pingpongs |
| 11:47:07 | Seldaek | can anyone tell me what kind of Gigabeat that is please? :) http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/7/2/4/7/7/0/webimg/140234037_o.jpg |
| 11:47:30 | pondlife | LinusN: I deliberately renamed Playback to Playback Settings as I thought that "Playback" appearing in the WPS context menu would be more confusing that the alternative. |
| 11:47:33 | Seldaek | obviously not an F |
| 11:47:53 | Seldaek | ah well, guess it's S nevermind |
| 11:48:00 | dionoea | gevaerts: I'm runing some checks for the sd driver on the e200 (like I said I would a few days ago) and wanted to know the new ata driver source code file location ... but grep found it now so it's ok :) |
| 11:48:30 | pondlife | LinusN: I could have had separate LANG options to make it appear as Playback OR Playback Settings, but thought that was un-KISS (and inconsistent). |
| 11:49:54 | markun | Seldaek: yes, it's the S |
| 11:50:13 | Seldaek | any idea how well it does with rockbox ? I see it's still in "new ports" stage |
| 11:50:22 | Seldaek | but the page hasn't much details |
| 11:53:13 | markun | Seldaek: I think it works ok with rockbox, but read the note at the top of the install page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation |
| 11:53:44 | Seldaek | yup I have |
| 11:54:04 | Seldaek | just not sure if it means there are risks of bricking or not |
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| 11:55:44 | markun | could be, better wait for someone working on the Gigabeat S port to answer that. |
| 11:56:13 | gevaerts | Seldaek: you won't brick it, but there are still missing features, and probably the battery life isn't too good yet |
| 11:56:32 | LinusN | pondlife: as it is now, it is very inconsistent in the settings menu |
| 11:56:45 | Seldaek | okay, btw gevaerts someone mugged me off the first F20's auction :/ |
| 11:56:54 | Seldaek | but I've found a couple others |
| 11:57:32 | pondlife | I agree, but I don't like the same menu having two names. I'd prefer they all had ... Settings, as a logical solution, but that seems a bit silly. |
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| 11:58:50 | pondlife | "Playlists" meaning playlist settings has long felt wrong for me, for some reason. |
| 11:59:55 | LinusN | consistency is good, but i think having "settings" after every setting item would be awfully annoying |
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| 12:00:05 | pondlife | Spoken, in particular.. |
| 12:00:15 | markun | Seldaek: in the end the S will probably be a nicer player |
| 12:00:52 | Seldaek | yeah I guess, anyway it will all depend on whether I win the auction for the S or the F.. I just want one |
| 12:01:23 | pondlife | So, suppress the Settings suffix in the Settings UI, but leave it in the context menus (where the settings context isn't obvious)? |
| 12:01:49 | LinusN | i think so |
| 12:01:53 | PaulJam_ | will this work with all other languages too? |
| 12:02:06 | pondlife | No, I mean have 2 LANG entries. |
| 12:02:32 | pondlife | I mean, yes, it will not break languages. |
| 12:02:35 | pondlife | :) |
| 12:02:46 | * | pondlife is having enough problems with English. |
| 12:02:47 | PaulJam_ | ok |
| 12:03:37 | pondlife | Hmm, is there a generic way for a menu to know where it was called from? |
| 12:04:45 | pondlife | Also - on another topic - did anyone mention that the Subversion tables have vanished on the front page etc. |
| 12:04:46 | LinusN | no |
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| 12:05:19 | LinusN | pondlife: network problems |
| 12:05:22 | pondlife | OK |
| 12:05:59 | LinusN | looks like a router has broken down on the way to svn.rockbox.org |
| 12:06:02 | pixelma | I remember a problem in svenska.lang where "recording" (the screen) and "recording settings" where named the same and you had 2 entries in the main menu with the same name and didn't know where one or the other would lead you to |
| 12:06:44 | pondlife | I'd personally prefer the extra "...Settings" but can see how that might annoy people. |
| 12:07:18 | Seldaek | make it an option? |
| 12:07:23 | pondlife | No! |
| 12:07:31 | Seldaek | UltraVerboseMenus on/off |
| 12:07:44 | gibbon_ | pondlife: hi, may i use your test_sampr.c for plugin development? |
| 12:07:53 | pondlife | Mine? |
| 12:08:05 | gibbon_ | don't know... it had your name on it |
| 12:08:42 | * | pondlife goes to look |
| 12:08:42 | PaulJam_ | btw, is the playbacksettings entry in the contextmenu really needed? you can reach this menu faster when opening the mainmenu and then the contextmenu of the now playing entry. |
| 12:09:18 | gibbon_ | in the header at least |
| 12:09:26 | pondlife | PaulJam_: I like it, and it seemed a sensible way to get to the EQ etc. |
| 12:09:45 | pondlife | gibbon_: Nope, that's jhMikeS with the copyright. I was just the last to update it. |
| 12:09:53 | gibbon_ | ah, ok... |
| 12:10:17 | pondlife | You should be ok to use it as long as you keep the (c) in there |
| 12:10:30 | gibbon_ | currently i am trying to find out when rb->pcm_play_data will stop playing... |
| 12:11:52 | PaulJam_ | pondlife: i didn't mean the entire WPS context menu, just the playback settings entry there. |
| 12:12:05 | pondlife | I know |
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| 12:47:39 | preglow | hrm |
| 12:47:44 | preglow | svn work for you guys? |
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| 12:58:39 | markun | preglow: nope |
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| 13:08:30 | B4gder | the server is inaccessible atm |
| 13:08:38 | B4gder | I don't know why |
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| 13:10:07 | * | preglow finds out adjusting dcdec1 to 3.3 volts does nothing for sd... |
| 13:10:15 | JdGordon | has anyone heard any news about the theme editor gsoc project? |
| 13:11:33 | dionoea | gevaerts: I'll post full results on fs#8663 when I'm done, but it seems that removing the udelay() call fixes write corruption issues on microSD. I still need to perform the test for internal flash. (Copying 2GB worth of files on USB 1.1 is slow) |
| 13:15:07 | pixelma | JdGordon: AFAIK domonoky reported some things about it recently - got some test code from his student or so |
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| 13:29:19 | dionoea | is rockbox GPLv2 or "GPLv2 or later"? |
| 13:30:50 | linuxstb | dionoea: That's a controversial question..., Some parts are definitely GPLv2, others are (IMO) v2 or later, but other people disagree. |
| 13:31:17 | dionoea | I'm about to use some code from a GPLv2 or later project in rockbox ... don't know if that matters. |
| 13:31:57 | B4gder | that doesn't matter, since we're surely v2 regardless of "or later" |
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| 13:36:20 | markun | if rockbox was "GPLv2 or later", could we link both GPLv2 and GPLv3 code or just one of the two? |
| 13:36:39 | linuxstb | The combined code could only be distributed under v3 |
| 13:37:03 | markun | but then you can't link GPLv2 code with it anymore, right? |
| 13:37:03 | linuxstb | But "v2 only" and "v3 or later" are incompatible. |
| 13:37:45 | B4gder | we can have a gpl version fight on devcon! |
| 13:38:07 | linuxstb | I won't be there, but I think amiconn has the same view as me, so count him twice ;) |
| 13:38:32 | * | wpyh comes back just to see a license war... |
| 13:38:46 | B4gder | no show, no vote ;-P |
| 13:38:49 | markun | by trying to fight tivoification, free software seems mostly to harm itself... |
| 13:39:18 | linuxstb | B4gder: No postal voting? |
| 13:39:35 | B4gder | well of course we allow votes on postcards |
| 13:39:54 | wpyh | markun: I have to disagree here |
| 13:40:09 | wpyh | I think the one who fights tivoization is RMS and not free software people as a whole |
| 13:40:32 | markun | are there other reasons for adopting GPLv3? |
| 13:40:42 | B4gder | yes, a few |
| 13:40:54 | B4gder | like how it allows "extensions" for things like openssl |
| 13:41:09 | B4gder | and it also addresses patents |
| 13:41:35 | wpyh | but that would be irrelevant in our case (both extensions and patents) |
| 13:41:39 | markun | I think I'll cast a vote for a BSD license at devcon ;) |
| 13:42:03 | B4gder | wpyh: the extension thing could fill a purpose if we'd find BSD-licensed code we want to use |
| 13:42:11 | B4gder | I mean original bsd |
| 13:42:34 | wpyh | well, I don't see too many original 4-clause BSD on the net... |
| 13:42:49 | wpyh | I mean original 4-clause BSD software ... |
| 13:43:02 | B4gder | I think openssl is one of the most frequent ones |
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| 13:43:23 | B4gder | but also the apache license isn't v2 compatible |
| 13:43:27 | wpyh | well, I can't see the usefulness of openssl either |
| 13:43:31 | VoltageX | hi rockboxers |
| 13:43:40 | wpyh | hi |
| 13:44:01 | B4gder | wpyh: I agree, I was only talking "possible" future scenarios, not really likely ones |
| 13:44:23 | wpyh | yeah.. |
| 13:45:03 | VoltageX | mod support :) |
| 13:45:24 | wpyh | btw I'm still curious about the mkfs.vfat problem (since I don't have it) |
| 13:46:23 | GodEater | wpyh: try formatting a 40GB+ drive with it |
| 13:46:57 | wpyh | On the iPod with 2048-byte sectors? |
| 13:47:13 | GodEater | on any drive |
| 13:47:32 | wpyh | let's see... maybe I can use a sparse file for this purpose |
| 13:49:11 | wpyh | GodEater: does it need to be formatted with the 2048-byte sector type? |
| 13:49:43 | GodEater | I don't recall |
| 13:49:55 | GodEater | but I would suggest trying that yes |
| 13:50:02 | GodEater | since that's where we had our issues with it |
| 13:50:11 | wpyh | ok |
| 13:52:39 | linuxstb | GodEater: I've used mkfs.vfat on 512-byte 40GB+ drives many times. We have lots of 40GB/60GB targets... |
| 13:53:29 | linuxstb | AFAIK, it's only the 2048-byte sector ipods that have issues. |
| 13:53:55 | wpyh | I heard that the issue was with the apple firmware |
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| 13:56:36 | wpyh | but I didn't see any problem with my cf card inside it |
| 13:57:08 | wpyh | I'm guessing the issue is with the 80GB drive, with 1024-byte physical sectors |
| 13:57:16 | wpyh | but I'm running a battery benchmark now... |
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| 14:01:31 | wpyh | Here: http://pastebin.com/m63137703 |
| 14:01:42 | wpyh | It's copied and pasted from my console |
| 14:03:14 | pixelma | the ipodlinux wiki (thanks to google cache) claims the following: Note: It seems that mkfs.vfat contains a bug (same belongs to mkdosfs since it is the same tool). However the linux kernel, the Apple Firmware, MacOSX, Linux and Windows aren't complaining about the filesystem being broken. The only issues you'll get is that recording in the Apple Firmare is broken and RockBox cannot handle the filesystem at all. |
| 14:03:37 | wpyh | oh |
| 14:03:43 | B4gder | I mkfs'ed my 80GB disk in my archos just fine |
| 14:03:56 | wpyh | But I can't record on my ipod with the OF... |
| 14:04:15 | wpyh | and the second part of that claim is absolutely false: we can handle the volume just fine! |
| 14:04:28 | wpyh | I mean RockBox can handle the volume just fine |
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| 14:06:34 | gevaerts | wpyh: how did you test that ? |
| 14:06:52 | pixelma | I think they only mean the 2048-byte sector sector drives, if someone wants to read more http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:NLA-WGRhI78J:www.ipodlinux.org/5.5G |
| 14:07:15 | B4gder | yeah, there must be something additional to it, like 2048 sectors |
| 14:07:42 | wpyh | gevaerts: wou mean on the ipod? well, I'm running the ipod video off my cf card that I formatted right now |
| 14:08:08 | wpyh | pixelma: actually the drive inside the ipod is not 2048-sectors, I think it's 1024 sectors instead |
| 14:08:15 | gevaerts | ok, so nit the 200GB filesystem mentioned earlier :) |
| 14:08:19 | * | gevaerts was a bit confused |
| 14:08:32 | wpyh | but it's exported through the usb interface as 2048 byte sectors |
| 14:08:49 | wpyh | gevaerts: I'm using qemu-img to generate a sparse file since my disk has only got 5GB left... |
| 14:08:50 | B4gder | svn server is back |
| 14:09:40 | * | gevaerts wonders. Why qemu-img and not just dd ? |
| 14:10:55 | wpyh | because I'm trying to create a big image on a small disk, and dd creates a full image instead of a sparse file... |
| 14:11:06 | gevaerts | no :) |
| 14:11:15 | * | gevaerts recommends the manpage |
| 14:11:16 | * | wpyh suddenly remembers that dd can skip the first few bytes and create a sparse file |
| 14:11:25 | * | wpyh RTFM's |
| 14:13:08 | wpyh | oh, should be the seek= parameter... |
| 14:14:46 | wpyh | the result should be the same anyway :) |
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| 14:50:14 | dionoea | Hum, why does the directory contextual menu not have an "Open with plugin" entry? |
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| 14:53:41 | LinusN | dionoea: perhaps because we have no plugins that operate on directories |
| 14:53:59 | dionoea | Ok, then I'll add one if that ok with everyone. |
| 14:54:25 | LinusN | sure |
| 14:54:56 | pixelma | maybe properties? |
| 14:55:24 | pixelma | the plugin, I mean :) |
| 14:55:39 | LinusN | i wonder what happens if you pass a directory to a plugin that expects a file, could be an interesting experiment :-) |
| 14:55:40 | dionoea | I already have the plugin :) |
| 14:55:47 | dionoea | I'm just missing the open with... entry |
| 14:55:53 | dionoea | (md5sum plugin for the curious) |
| 14:56:03 | dionoea | I'll be back in a few minutes |
| 14:57:14 | pixelma | the properties plugin has an own entry in the directory context menu (not behind an "open with...") |
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| 15:23:16 | pixelma | dionoea: would be cool if you could document the new plugin somewhere (at least a start of a wiki page or so...) ;) |
| 15:23:56 | dionoea | pixelma: I'll do that once I'm sure that everything works as expected :) And I also need to add some visual feedback in the plugin itself so people know what it's doing. |
| 15:24:36 | * | linuxstb wonders who wants to md5sum their music files... |
| 15:24:53 | * | dionoea now has an e260 and the ata driver is buggy |
| 15:24:56 | dionoea | and USB is slow |
| 15:25:07 | dionoea | So I'd rather do the md5 checks directly on target to save some time. |
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| 15:29:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: It would be useful to ever check if, say, a music file suddenly becomes corrupted and doesn't play correctly. |
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| 15:30:22 | dionoea | For me it's just a helper application for FS #8663 :) and I figured that I could commit it in case anyone ever had use for such a plugin some day. |
| 15:31:14 | linuxstb | OK... No less useful than Doom ;) |
| 15:31:23 | amiconn | LinusN: It will probably fail when trying to open the file (EISDIR) |
| 15:31:24 | pixelma | well... it'll help better if it would build on all targets and without warnings I suppose ;) |
| 15:31:36 | LinusN | amiconn: probably, yes |
| 15:31:41 | dionoea | what's the difference between puts and putsxy? |
| 15:33:55 | linuxstb | dionoea: The GraphicsAPI wiki page is useful (not sure if your question is answered there though...) |
| 15:34:18 | dionoea | I'll check. (both functions just have the same prototype) |
| 15:34:57 | dionoea | That page doesn't mention lcd_puts :/ |
| 15:35:31 | amiconn | lcd_puts is line based, while lcd_putsxy is pixel based |
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| 15:36:31 | linuxstb | dionoea: Ideally, your plugin should use an existing widget (e.g. the list widget), and then you don't need to worry about the low-level stuff. It will also then work on remotes. |
| 15:37:09 | dionoea | linuxstb: I don't want anything fancy :) Just printing the current filename somewhere to see that it's doing something and not stuck in an infinite loop |
| 15:38:05 | Llorean | So, a splash? |
| 15:38:21 | dionoea | basically a splash without any timeout stuff |
| 15:38:29 | gibbon_ | hiho... is there some function in the API that upper/lowercases a string? |
| 15:38:49 | linuxstb | Splashes don't clear themselves - it's up to the calling function to clear/redraw the screen afterwards. |
| 15:39:02 | dionoea | ah ok, that would work then. |
| 15:39:13 | dionoea | gibbon_: not that I know. But that's easy to write. |
| 15:39:43 | pixelma | dionoea: are you going to fix the errors too? |
| 15:40:07 | dionoea | which errors? |
| 15:40:13 | * | dionoea checks the build page |
| 15:40:47 | dionoea | ah ... some targets don't have memcpy? |
| 15:40:59 | dionoea | or did I forget to call the magic macro? |
| 15:41:26 | LinusN | dionoea: rb->memcpy |
| 15:41:50 | dionoea | err, memcmp. But that's what I did. |
| 15:42:13 | * | gevaerts disagrees about upper/lowercasing a string being easy |
| 15:42:29 | dionoea | if you only take non accentuated latin chars into account :) |
| 15:42:45 | dionoea | gevaerts: did you see my message about the udelay? |
| 15:43:21 | dionoea | LinusN: hum, in fact the error is indeed about memcpy. But I never call that anywhere in my code. |
| 15:43:53 | LinusN | dionoea: could be a struct assignment |
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| 15:45:09 | linuxstb | gevaerts: void strtolower(char* s) { while (*s) { *(s++)=tolower(*s); } }; ? |
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| 15:46:58 | linuxstb | dionoea: Is your "WORDS_BIGENDIAN" check correct? And where is GetDWLE defined? |
| 15:47:15 | LinusN | dionoea: void *memcpy(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n) { |
| 15:47:15 | LinusN | return(rb->memcpy(dest,src,n)); |
| 15:47:15 | LinusN | } |
| 15:47:19 | gevaerts | dionoea: I saw it, yes. I don't really understand the driver well enough to know how to use the info though |
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| 15:47:38 | Lartza_ | i finally got pacman to rockbox and found its nearly impossible to get through level 2 atleast for me :) |
| 15:47:44 | gibbon_ | dionoea: thanks |
| 15:47:47 | dionoea | gevaerts: can't you just remove the udelay? |
| 15:47:52 | Lartza_ | pacbox is the best in rockbox! |
| 15:47:59 | gevaerts | linuxstb: if tolower() is implemented correctly, sure ;) |
| 15:48:10 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Why wouldn't it be? |
| 15:48:24 | gevaerts | dionoea: There have been reports of that giving errors on e200 (internal) |
| 15:48:33 | Lartza_ | how is it possible for rockbox to get so loud sound output? |
| 15:48:47 | * | linuxstb guesses utf-8 might cause issues and shuts up |
| 15:49:45 | gevaerts | exactly :) From what I understand a fully correct tolower() actually needs to be language dependent (i.e. not just encoding) |
| 15:50:51 | dionoea | what targets are big endian? (To test if the code compiles ok) |
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| 15:53:01 | markun | Lartza_: we don't do anything special. The hardware is capable of this sound output and probably limited by the original firmware in software. |
| 15:53:48 | gibbon_ | another question is if theres an easy way to output some data to the controlling terminal of the simulatior |
| 15:54:14 | dionoea | gibbon_: yes, using DEBUGF |
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| 15:55:12 | gibbon_ | ok, thanks |
| 15:55:16 | gibbon_ | will have a look |
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| 15:58:21 | saratoga | what do i need to include to get access to DEBUGF in a codec? |
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| 16:02:15 | Nico_P | saratoga: rb->debugf IIRC |
| 16:03:37 | Nico_P | but actually DEBUGF seems to be defined in plugin.h, so you can just use that |
| 16:10:14 | wpyh | I got 22 hours of runtime on the iPod 5.5g! |
| 16:10:29 | | Part LinusN |
| 16:12:11 | Nico_P | wpyh: with the stock battery and your CF mod? |
| 16:12:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | wpyh: Wow, very nice! |
| 16:12:25 | wpyh | yes |
| 16:12:28 | wpyh | running RB |
| 16:12:35 | wpyh | don't know how long the OF will last |
| 16:13:37 | wpyh | so, anyone interested in the CF mod? ;) |
| 16:14:50 | * | LambdaCalculus37 raises his hand |
| 16:16:28 | wpyh | well, how big of a cf card would you use? |
| 16:17:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Maybe a 32GB if I can afford it. ;) |
| 16:18:33 | wpyh | oh |
| 16:18:38 | wpyh | how much is it there? |
| 16:19:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | In the U.S.? Depends on where you buy it, mostly. |
| 16:20:21 | amiconn | dionoea: Just put MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPERS(rb) in your plugin (use whatever you named the global api pointer in place of 'rb') |
| 16:20:51 | dionoea | amiconn: already did that and commited :) Thanks for the tip anyway ;) |
| 16:20:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | But a 32GB CF card is around $120 on average. |
| 16:21:15 | wpyh | here we can get a 32GB transcend (maybe fake, maybe original, unknown) for 1200-1850 Yuan, about $171-$264 |
| 16:21:20 | * | amiconn paid EUR 130 for his 32GB CF card |
| 16:21:21 | wpyh | wow, that's cheap |
| 16:21:48 | wpyh | uh, I think you should stay away from transcend's 133x CF card, though |
| 16:21:51 | wpyh | I had no success wit hit |
| 16:21:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | wpyh: When you can afford it. ;) |
| 16:22:07 | amiconn | wpyh: I do use exactly that card.... |
| 16:22:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll probably buy an A-DATA card. |
| 16:22:15 | amiconn | Works like a charm in my mini |
| 16:22:24 | wpyh | LambdaCalculus37: I'm comparing the prices between here and the US :p |
| 16:22:37 | wpyh | amiconn: I haven't tried with a mini but it doesn't work in my 5.5g |
| 16:23:11 | wpyh | I'm using the Apacer 200x 8GB card inside my 5.5g, btw, which doesn't turn up on google (that's weird) |
| 16:23:52 | wpyh | LambdaCalculus37: I don't know about A-DATA, never tried it.Would be good though, since you can then update the CFModGuide page :) |
| 16:24:08 | amiconn | wpyh: You didn't use the 32GB version though |
| 16:24:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | wpyh: If I can get one for cheap, then I'll mod my iPod video and will post the results on the wiki page. |
| 16:24:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Until then, money's tight. :/ |
| 16:25:31 | wpyh | amiconn: I used the 8GB version.. but I think they should be similar (same controller chip) |
| 16:26:29 | wpyh | LambdaCalculus37: well, you can always buy the 8GB now and wait for 128GB prices to come down (when it's announced) and upgrade |
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| 16:33:50 | dionoea | Hum, md5 hashing on target takes longer than I though. |
| 16:34:43 | dionoea | is cpu_boost something you need to call only once to activate and once to deactivate? or should it be called regularly? (I think that somone talked about changing the way that worked a while back) |
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| 16:43:22 | saratoga | Nico_P: I tried including plugin.h but it didn't help |
| 16:43:45 | saratoga | i'm actually really confused, since I use debugf in libwma all the time, so i don't see why it wouldn't work in libmad |
| 16:44:22 | Nico_P | oh, a codec... I read too fast and thought you were asking about a plugin. sorry for that |
| 16:45:27 | Nico_P | but things seem to be the same in codecs as in plugins... debugf is in the API and DEBUGF is defined in codec.h as ci->debugf |
| 16:45:55 | Nico_P | s/codec.h/codecs.h |
| 16:48:56 | markun | some on-topic talk from #rockbox-community http://pastebin.ca/1043892 |
| 16:49:08 | Nico_P | saratoga: tried including codecs.h? |
| 16:50:25 | * | wpyh thanks markun |
| 16:51:11 | * | markun your-welcomes wpyh |
| 16:51:13 | wpyh | btw, shouldn't it be forever? |
| 16:51:20 | markun | should it? |
| 16:51:23 | wpyh | it says the post will expire in 4 weeks |
| 16:51:25 | markun | maybe |
| 16:51:29 | wpyh | logs are forever... :p |
| 16:51:55 | markun | we should have pasted it in here :) |
| 16:52:24 | wpyh | well, we should ask Mr. Llorean for permission to do that :) |
| 16:53:08 | markun | This one shouldn't expire http://pastebin.ca/1043894 |
| 16:54:54 | scorche|sh | wpyh: it is fine...i dont know why you need to ask for Llorean's permission... |
| 16:55:31 | wpyh | scorche: I mean copy & pasting the whole logs on this window, not just the link like markun does |
| 16:55:40 | scorche|sh | oh...hell no ;) |
| 16:55:44 | markun | wpyh: you will be auto kicked |
| 16:55:54 | scorche|sh | and if not, i will do it |
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| 16:56:13 | markun | how unfair after first giving him permission :) |
| 16:56:40 | gevaerts | markun: maybe he'll then kick himself as some sort of compensation |
| 16:57:53 | wpyh | oh, then let's not do that |
| 16:58:22 | wpyh | we can do one thing though: copy the logs line by line |
| 16:58:36 | scorche|sh | dont worry about it |
| 16:58:55 | * | pondlife wonders if it's just him getting bouces from a user on the dev ML... |
| 16:59:27 | wpyh | yep, and markun has provided a non-expiring version |
| 16:59:54 | wpyh | ok, back on topic |
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| 17:00:12 | scorche|sh | wpyh: either way, this is far from the first time on-topic chat has gone on there... |
| 17:01:50 | dionoea | gevaerts: I'll keep the udelay thing commented out and try using rockbox that way for a while. (Do you remember what kind of issues the e200 user reported?) |
| 17:02:26 | gevaerts | dionoea: sorry, no. It should be somewhere in the logs though |
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| 17:04:16 | wpyh | ok |
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| 17:04:16 | wpyh | not much difference between different font file sizes |
| 17:04:16 | wpyh | the pixel sizes makes a lot of differrence, though |
| 17:04:55 | wpyh | the scrolling (between ~5 menu items) is slow |
| 17:05:25 | wpyh | and I've observed another thing: if I scroll between the main menu items with a few character names, it's much faster than scrolling between files with long names |
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| 17:05:48 | wpyh | maybe this is because we need to draw a lot of characters |
| 17:05:48 | gevaerts | wpyh: that clearly points to the font cache |
| 17:06:10 | * | wpyh wonders what's just happened (9 people going out and then in again simultaneously) |
| 17:06:24 | wpyh | ah... so the font cache |
| 17:06:48 | GodEater | wpyh: that's called a netsplit |
| 17:06:51 | wpyh | I haven't read the code yet, but do we cache the font in a way suitable for fastest rendering on a given LCD type? |
| 17:07:06 | * | wpyh googles for netsplit |
| 17:07:54 | pondlife | A netsplit is your only chance to say stuff behind logbot's back.. |
| 17:08:20 | wpyh | found it on wikipedia :) |
| 17:08:46 | wpyh | pondlife: but in this case, the logbot's server wasn't disconnected :p |
| 17:08:49 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:08:59 | pondlife | From your point-of-view maybe... ;) |
| 17:09:21 | GodEater | it was from pondlife's ;) |
| 17:09:40 | wpyh | yes, so I can't say things behind its back just now :p |
| 17:09:49 | * | scorche|sh coughs |
| 17:10:15 | markun | wpyh: the limit for your player is 60,000 bytes for a font, before the caching starts. Did you try a font below that? |
| 17:10:57 | wpyh | yes, I tried a few small fonts < 10KB, but they are mostly small in pixel sizes too |
| 17:11:23 | gevaerts | wpyh: basically, the font cache has a fixed size, which will fit more characters with smaller fonts. Every time you need a character that's not in the cache it needs to hit the disk |
| 17:11:27 | markun | the nimbus fonts should work |
| 17:11:38 | * | gevaerts probably simplified this a bit by not fully understanding it |
| 17:11:58 | markun | gevaerts: and even the lookup when it's in the cache is not as fast as could be I think |
| 17:12:25 | wpyh | I don't think it hit the disk because: 1) the disk icon didn't appear, and 2) I only viewed ASCII menu items |
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| 17:12:53 | markun | wpyh: try nimbus14 or nimbus19, still as slow as with your chinese font? |
| 17:14:13 | wpyh | I tried the nimbus fonts, but the speed seem to be determined by the pixel size instead |
| 17:14:27 | wpyh | well, nimbus 19 is about the same speed as wqy-unnibit |
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| 17:15:11 | wpyh | nimbus 14 is not much better, about the same |
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| 17:16:23 | wpyh | 9+18x18 and 9+18x18B is a bit slower than wqy-unibit |
| 17:16:41 | markun | then I guess it's not a font caching problem after all |
| 17:17:10 | wpyh | nimbus-10 is faster |
| 17:17:20 | wpyh | maybe it's just font drawing slowness? |
| 17:17:34 | markun | could be |
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| 17:18:09 | weatherundergnd | what do you guys think is the best device for Rockbox use? |
| 17:18:39 | markun | weatherundergnd: these ones: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide |
| 17:18:48 | markun | :) |
| 17:19:09 | * | dionoea likes the "In Production" column |
| 17:19:20 | markun | what kind of player are you looking for? flash/hdd, colour/gray, radio, recording |
| 17:21:04 | weatherundergnd | i had H140 but it dropped off from a buildings third floor to the ground. :| |
| 17:21:06 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wonders if it's still a bit early to add the Gigabeat S to the BuyersGuide page |
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| 17:22:21 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: we still don't have a nice install method, do we? |
| 17:22:23 | gibbon_ | gnah... i am stuck with this problem... |
| 17:22:45 | gibbon_ | what does "rb->yield()" do anyway? |
| 17:22:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: True. |
| 17:23:27 | weatherundergnd | recording is a nice bonus feature |
| 17:23:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | weatherundergnd: Why not just buy another H100? |
| 17:24:23 | weatherundergnd | i thought that if there are better models available today |
| 17:24:41 | * | wpyh wonders why the drawing slowness discussion stopped after we switched back to #rockbox |
| 17:25:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | weatherundergnd: That's a matter of opinion, but a lot of people seem to enjoy the H100 and the Gigabeat series the best. |
| 17:25:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | But like I said... all a matter of opinion. |
| 17:26:00 | weatherundergnd | how about Sansa or iAudio ? |
| 17:27:11 | gevaerts | weatherundergnd: you come from a 40GB device. Sansa goes up to 8GB. Will that be enough ? |
| 17:27:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Don't forget about memory expansion via microSD cards. |
| 17:27:50 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: true, but still not the same |
| 17:28:09 | weatherundergnd | ok |
| 17:28:13 | weatherundergnd | i gotta look in to this |
| 17:28:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | weatherundergnd: How about a Gigabeat F40? |
| 17:28:29 | wpyh | gevaerts: my 5.5g ipod goes from 80GB to 8GB |
| 17:28:30 | weatherundergnd | i get ATA error: -11 / Insert USB cable and press a button |
| 17:28:41 | weatherundergnd | so the HD is probably borked |
| 17:28:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yep. |
| 17:28:59 | wpyh | weatherundergnd: it may be possible to do the CF mod |
| 17:29:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | Open it up and see if anything else is damaged. |
| 17:29:07 | gevaerts | weatherundergnd: sure, but look how slow the screen refresh is ;) |
| 17:29:26 | gevaerts | s/weatherundergnd/wpyh/ |
| 17:29:28 | weatherundergnd | whaddya mean? |
| 17:29:30 | gevaerts | sorry... |
| 17:29:37 | wpyh | oh |
| 17:29:37 | wpyh | :p |
| 17:29:38 | weatherundergnd | with screen refresh? |
| 17:29:46 | gevaerts | weatherundergnd: I meant that for wpyh |
| 17:29:47 | wpyh | well, at least I don't get the sluggish ui problem ;) |
| 17:30:03 | weatherundergnd | LambdaCalculus37: it didn't damage a lot externally |
| 17:30:09 | weatherundergnd | it seems to be in quite good condition |
| 17:30:26 | weatherundergnd | i have insurance. let's see if i can get some money from them to buy a new player. |
| 17:30:57 | wpyh | insurance for an MP3 player? |
| 17:31:07 | weatherundergnd | home insurance covers things like this |
| 17:31:09 | weatherundergnd | atleast in Finland |
| 17:31:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | Wow... wish we had that in the U.S... ;) |
| 17:31:57 | weatherundergnd | yeah. i know. :D |
| 17:32:06 | weatherundergnd | i'm a lucky bastard living up north |
| 17:32:07 | weatherundergnd | :) |
| 17:32:56 | gevaerts | Anyway I think there are at least 5 'best players' around, depending on what exactly you want from them |
| 17:33:21 | weatherundergnd | gevaerts: can you name them? |
| 17:33:49 | weatherundergnd | anyone ever heard Mr Velcro Fastener? they are from same town I am. |
| 17:34:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | *ahem* |
| 17:34:04 | * | LambdaCalculus37 points to the topic |
| 17:34:07 | weatherundergnd | they have a album called Lucky Bastards Living Up North |
| 17:34:17 | weatherundergnd | http://www.discogs.com/release/133687 |
| 17:34:24 | weatherundergnd | sorry... :| |
| 17:34:35 | * | LambdaCalculus37 directs weatherundergnd to the community channel for off-topic talk |
| 17:34:43 | weatherundergnd | gevaerts: what do you thing are the 5 best players |
| 17:35:10 | gevaerts | weatherundergnd: I'd say Archos Recorder v2 for sheer possible storage size, Gigabeat F for good storage size, decent screen and a CPU fast enough for video, some iAudios for battery life, iriver for recording, and sansa for portability and price. |
| 17:35:20 | gevaerts | Of course every one of them has disadvantages as well |
| 17:36:01 | * | gevaerts left out sound quality, as he doesn't really know which is best there |
| 17:36:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Archos players are MP3 only, since they have decoding hardware to help ease the load on a slow CPU. |
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| 17:37:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | So you should either transcode a lossless file like FLAC to MP3, or just rip your CDs to MP3. |
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| 17:51:59 | gibbon_ | would someone please tell me a way to play audio for a certain time? |
| 17:52:41 | gibbon_ | i fiddled with pcm_play_data for hours now and i can't get through it |
| 17:52:51 | domonoky | press play, and after a certain time press stop.. :-) i think you have to be more speicif what you want to do.. |
| 17:53:08 | domonoky | s/speicif/specific |
| 17:53:09 | gibbon_ | domonoky: i am writing a morse trainer plugin... |
| 17:53:42 | gibbon_ | i need to play a sine wave and turn it on and off to produce a morse signal |
| 17:53:47 | domonoky | so if you use the pcm_play_data function, it just plays as much as you give to it... |
| 17:54:29 | domonoky | so you need to produce a longer or shorter Sinus in a buffer, and give this buffer to pcm_play_data.. |
| 17:54:50 | gibbon_ | in test_sampr.c there is an example that uses a ISR to reset the pointer ... |
| 17:55:16 | domonoky | gibbon_: do you use the "getMore()" callback of the pcm_play_data function ? |
| 17:55:29 | gibbon_ | yes... |
| 17:55:47 | gibbon_ | it has two lines in it... |
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| 17:56:06 | gibbon_ | one to reset the pointer, the other one to update the size |
| 17:56:40 | domonoky | so if you set the size to zero it should stop, i think.. |
| 17:56:43 | gibbon_ | i only know that far, what i could learn from the test_sampr.c |
| 17:57:16 | gibbon_ | and there is a load of stuff all around the function... |
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| 17:57:32 | gibbon_ | the pcm_play_data function |
| 17:58:17 | domonoky | if your sounds are short, you dont need the callback, see metronome.c :-) |
| 17:59:02 | gibbon_ | i need tones up to about 1.2seconds |
| 17:59:25 | gibbon_ | thats quite huge for a buffer |
| 17:59:44 | gibbon_ | i saw 32bit values... |
| 17:59:57 | gibbon_ | the callback btw is working fine... |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:32 | gibbon_ | what i don't understand is, how to proceed afterwards |
| 18:00:40 | gibbon_ | after playback has finished |
| 18:01:26 | gibbon_ | thats why i askes about the yield function... |
| 18:01:53 | domonoky | hm, i dont really understand.. |
| 18:02:04 | gibbon_ | it does something there and i don't know what |
| 18:02:18 | gibbon_ | then i ask more direct questions... |
| 18:02:27 | domonoky | yield() give the cpu back to other task, so they can do their work... |
| 18:02:41 | domonoky | more direct questions are better :-) |
| 18:02:54 | gibbon_ | after doing pcm_data_play, the application will run on, while audio plays? |
| 18:03:15 | domonoky | so if you call yield, other rockbox task can run, and your plugin task will continue later... |
| 18:04:15 | domonoky | i dont really know the code in question, but i think you have to wait for the playback to finish, and while you wait you call yield.. |
| 18:06:23 | domonoky | so after calling the pcm_play_data you put something like: while(rb->pcm_is_playing()) { yield() } |
| 18:07:58 | domonoky | this will halt your code flow, until the playback is finished... after playback the next instuction after the while is called... i think thats what you want, right ? |
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| 18:08:27 | gibbon_ | es... |
| 18:08:29 | gibbon_ | yes... |
| 18:08:45 | gibbon_ | i stop audio in the interrupt handler if enough samples have been played |
| 18:09:11 | domonoky | interrupt handler ? you mean the getMore callback ? |
| 18:10:06 | domonoky | or a timer interrupt ? |
| 18:10:20 | gibbon_ | nope... |
| 18:10:36 | gibbon_ | it says ISR in the comment... so i started calling it an interrupt handler |
| 18:10:52 | gibbon_ | but the callback is the function i referred to |
| 18:11:35 | domonoky | i dont think its an ISR, but i dont know for sure. lets call it "callback" :-) |
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| 18:13:03 | gibbon_ | of cause... |
| 18:13:20 | gibbon_ | i just got the function to play audio, but its horribly wrong... |
| 18:13:35 | gibbon_ | too short pauses etc... i'll have to debug that for a while |
| 18:14:32 | domonoky | sure, if you have questions, just ask... (and maybe provide the code in a pastebin for checking) :-) |
| 18:15:11 | gibbon_ | i will provide code when i cleaned it up a bit and set comments to the pieces that i think are easily misunderstood |
| 18:15:31 | domonoky | :-) |
| 18:15:38 | gibbon_ | because i am a really fresh C newbee, it will hurt a lot to read it, anyway |
| 18:16:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | gibbon_: But think about this... it's the good kind of pain. :) |
| 18:16:27 | domonoky | we are happy to help people who do actually work on code..:-) |
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| 18:17:00 | gibbon_ | if anyone is interested, i'd be very happy to put this to upstream with a little help... |
| 18:17:12 | gibbon_ | some ham people out there might be interested ;) |
| 18:17:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | gibbon_: You could pastebin the code for us to look at. |
| 18:17:56 | gibbon_ | i will |
| 18:18:09 | gibbon_ | when i am home... currently i am still at work |
| 18:18:15 | * | preglow wonders why anyone would want an md5 plugin... |
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| 18:19:07 | dionoea | debugging ata write errors without having to use slow usb. |
| 18:19:23 | gibbon_ | preglow: that would hurt from the "runtime and battery life" point of view, right? |
| 18:19:48 | preglow | gibbon_: having an extra plugin hurts nothing, more or less |
| 18:20:07 | gibbon_ | preglow: i was refering to using it of cause ;) |
| 18:20:24 | preglow | buschel: for the logs: it would probably be better to fix musepack so it is s3.28 fixed point, only two bits of headroom is a bit on the low side |
| 18:21:01 | dionoea | what block sizes does the ata driver use when reading off the disk? |
| 18:22:33 | dionoea | nevermind, found it. (at least for the target I'm currently using) |
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| 18:23:09 | bobthebuilder | hello? |
| 18:24:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | There's 136 other people in here besides you. :) |
| 18:24:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | Do you have a question? |
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| 18:30:57 | webguest88 | can i ask a question ? |
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| 18:32:11 | * | pixelma points at the topic... |
| 18:32:27 | pixelma | just ask |
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| 18:39:48 | advcomp2019 | webguest88, you can just ask if you are still there |
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| 19:22:29 | Buschel | preglow: changing mpc to s3.28 shouldn't be that big deal, but it will need some careful work... right now i am more interested in asm'ing the dct-stuff −− but i'll keep in mind |
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| 19:42:28 | webguest88 | ive plugged my ipod in and downloaded the rockbox utility then i tried installing the bootloader but it says no ipods found and ive tried it in disk mode aswell what do i do? :( |
| 19:42:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | What model iPod is it? |
| 19:42:59 | webguest88 | oh sorry its a nano 1st |
| 19:43:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Plastic front and chrome back? |
| 19:43:40 | domonoky | webguest88: and apple os works on the ipod ? |
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| 19:44:49 | webguest88 | yeah its white and chrome |
| 19:44:49 | scorche|sh | webguest88: it looks like this? http://regmedia.co.uk/2005/09/14/nano_1.jpg |
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| 19:45:10 | webguest88 | yeah |
| 19:45:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | Are you running iPodpatcher with admin rights? |
| 19:45:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Windows, OS X, or Linux? |
| 19:45:49 | domonoky | webguest88: did you run rbutil with admin rights ? |
| 19:45:52 | webguest88 | windows |
| 19:51:24 | webguest88 | domonoky : yeah i think so |
| 19:53:17 | domonoky | then it should work, if it really is a 1gen nano.. |
| 19:54:12 | * | LambdaCalculus37 has an idea... a bit of a farfetched one, but an idea |
| 19:54:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | webguest88: Can you read the serial number on the back of your iPod for us? |
| 19:55:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's near the bottom of the iPod. |
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| 20:06:45 | webguest88 | serial no: 7J553ZBRSZB |
| 20:08:11 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes to look it up |
| 20:12:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | webguest88: In the iPod firmware, can you go to Settings > About, and read the model number? |
| 20:12:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | The serial number you gave me doesn't work. |
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| 20:33:43 | webguest88 | model no : MA004FB |
| 20:34:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | That doesn't match with any of the 1st gen nano models listed here: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP42 |
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| 20:36:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Look here... http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 and see which model looks like yours. |
| 20:37:22 | webguest88 | im from britain does that make a difference? |
| 20:37:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | No. |
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| 20:39:27 | webguest88 | MA004LL/A (2GB white) |
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| 20:47:15 | pixelma | I can find a few Nanos with that model number at amazon.uk that clearly look like first generation ones |
| 20:50:20 | pixelma | webguest88: how did you put the Nano into disk mode and are you sure the cable is not broken or so? |
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| 20:54:54 | webguest88 | i can connect to itunes and i held down menu and select to get disk mode up |
| 20:57:14 | linuxstb | webguest88: Does your ipod appear as a drive letter in Windows? |
| 20:58:05 | linuxstb | And are you _sure_ you're logged in as a user with Administrator rights when you run rbutil? |
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| 20:59:48 | advcomp2019 | what version of windows are running? |
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| 21:00:18 | pixelma | only menu+select? I thought that would only reset it and you need to press select+play if the apple logo comes up after the reboot (don't have an Ipod though, could remember wrong) |
| 21:02:04 | webguest88 | yeah pixelma thats what i meant sorry |
| 21:02:50 | webguest88 | ill try again as an admin back in a minute |
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| 21:13:37 | webguest88 | back haha it works a charm now forgot to login as an admin lol well thanks for the help guys cya |
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| 21:42:07 | lobf | can anyone tell me why windows sporadically tells me that it doesn't recognize my rockbox install? |
| 21:42:20 | lobf | er my USB device to be precise |
| 21:42:55 | scorche|sh | what device? |
| 21:47:24 | domonoky | lobf: reboot into the Of to use USB.. rockbox us |
| 21:47:33 | domonoky | usb isnt ready |
| 21:47:39 | lobf | it's a 5th gen ipod |
| 21:47:46 | scorche|sh | domonoky: we dont know what device he has ye....blah |
| 21:47:47 | lobf | "Of"? |
| 21:48:05 | domonoky | of = original firmware, ie apple os |
| 21:48:15 | scorche|sh | lobf: original firmware...and yes...boot into the apple firmware or use disk mode for USB...not rockbox |
| 21:48:20 | domonoky | sco |
| 21:48:41 | domonoky | äh, wrong window :-) |
| 21:48:55 | lobf | how do i boot into the original firmware |
| 21:48:57 | lobf | ? |
| 21:49:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's in the manual. |
| 21:49:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-290003.1.3 |
| 21:49:26 | scorche|sh | the manual should tell you how to get into both the original firmware and disk mode |
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| 22:05:33 | scorche|sh | GodEater: around? |
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| 22:16:54 | preglow | my, will the people on the user list ever get the point on how to behave on mailing lists |
| 22:17:39 | * | scorche|sh shakes the magic eight-ball |
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| 22:17:48 | scorche|sh | "Signs point to no" |
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| 22:22:55 | preglow | shotofadds: oy? |
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| 22:30:22 | preglow | shotofadds: no dice on the 3.3 volts with sd |
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| 22:33:02 | shotofadds | preglow: heh, I'm here but half asleep... |
| 22:33:11 | shotofadds | shame that didn't work. could have been a nice easy fix :/ |
| 22:35:00 | preglow | indeed |
| 22:35:14 | preglow | that's even with the gpioc change as well |
| 22:35:20 | preglow | i guess i'll just keep on disassembling and see |
| 22:35:31 | preglow | i've ordered a 16 gig sdhc card, so i better have this working soon |
| 22:35:46 | preglow | seems the weather is taking a turn for the worse, so i might actually get something done too :> |
| 22:35:59 | shotofadds | I hope you don't expect to be able to use playlists in the OF on that card... |
| 22:36:12 | preglow | i don't do playlists |
| 22:36:27 | shotofadds | good job :) |
| 22:36:31 | preglow | i use my d2 like my other mp3 players, browse around until i find something i want to play, then play it |
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| 22:37:03 | preglow | the of is so amazingly buggy, i don't use it much anyway |
| 22:37:25 | preglow | i have to transfer music in small batches to not make the database (and hence everything music-related) vomit |
| 22:37:32 | shotofadds | it's in a pretty poor state for a player that's been out this long |
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| 22:37:52 | shotofadds | everyone says it has database issues, but I've been lucky so far ... |
| 22:37:52 | preglow | dab radio needs sporadic trips into the music file player to work without bursts of low frequency square waves |
| 22:38:00 | shotofadds | ouch |
| 22:38:09 | shotofadds | which fw? |
| 22:38:13 | preglow | 4.57 |
| 22:38:20 | preglow | 4.55 worked better, but i just can't be bothered |
| 22:38:32 | preglow | i'll rather just keep using my h120 until i can get sd card support going |
| 22:38:34 | shotofadds | it's /that/ good ;-) |
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| 22:39:16 | preglow | it's bloody annoying, i can't remember the last time i bought something with a firmware i was satisfied with |
| 22:39:33 | preglow | it doesn't even have to be perfect, just bloody not crash and have crippling bugs |
| 22:40:05 | shotofadds | my previous DAP was a Zen Vision:M, works fine if you can stand MTP-only ... |
| 22:40:12 | preglow | i can't... |
| 22:40:31 | preglow | i've only got the h120 and ipod nano. former is ok enough, but pretty basic. latter is an ipod... |
| 22:40:37 | shotofadds | it didn't last long for that very reason |
| 22:42:40 | shotofadds | I'm trying to work up the enthusiasm to go fix the NAND driver, but there's been sunshine and beer outside. what can I do :-) |
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| 22:44:02 | shotofadds | preglow: I don't know if you saw that I got the FM driver to talk to the chip. It's progress, even if not very useful... |
| 22:44:49 | preglow | didn't see that, and all progress is good progress |
| 22:45:03 | preglow | i guess the regular d2 has a completely different fm setup than dab d2? |
| 22:45:31 | preglow | extremely sunny here as well, i haven't been able to do anything rockbox specific for weeks, thanks to that and moving |
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| 22:47:00 | shotofadds | what makes you say the FM might be different? |
| 22:47:15 | preglow | kind of figured they were part of the same package |
| 22:47:54 | shotofadds | nope, both dab and normal D2 have a LV24020 |
| 22:48:13 | shotofadds | so the driver was kind of trivial once I'd figured out the GPIOs... |
| 22:48:18 | preglow | well, i guess that's good |
| 22:48:38 | shotofadds | "just" need to get some sound out of it now... |
| 22:49:13 | shotofadds | I'm picking apart the various WM8985 accesses in the OF to see if I can get any clues |
| 22:49:58 | shotofadds | ..slowly.. |
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| 22:52:12 | preglow | you know how's it connected yet? |
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| 22:52:21 | preglow | disregard weird grammar |
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| 22:56:18 | shotofadds | what, the WM codec? yeah, it's on I2C - there's a (partial) driver for it already |
| 22:56:32 | shotofadds | or the radio audio? |
| 22:58:03 | preglow | wm |
| 22:58:15 | preglow | ah, so it's just i2c and i2s, i gather |
| 22:58:31 | preglow | wouldn't one of the wm drivers we already have work fine? |
| 22:58:49 | preglow | that wouldn't account for the telechips i2s stuff, of course... |
| 22:58:54 | shotofadds | it's very similar to the 8758 (iirc - that's the driver I copied) |
| 22:59:02 | shotofadds | the missing link is the I2S stuff |
| 22:59:09 | shotofadds | I started a PCM driver but didin't have much success |
| 22:59:15 | shotofadds | wil attempt that again soon |
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| 23:00:42 | shotofadds | I'll probably have a bit more time for these things next week. Whether to do NAND or PCM, that is the question... |
| 23:01:52 | preglow | well, nand is of course the more important, but i can most certainly see why you wouldn't want to work on that ;) |
| 23:02:19 | preglow | and once i do crack this obstacle, i believe and hope progress will be better |
| 23:02:27 | preglow | so we at least have proper sd card access |
| 23:02:34 | preglow | making nand at least a bit less important |
| 23:03:17 | shotofadds | honestly I can't see how the NAND scheme can be so hard. it's "just" a matter of matching up the physical blocks with the logical blocks... easy until you have 4Gb of data to deal with and no way of dumping it to the PC |
| 23:03:44 | shotofadds | well.. given that there won't be write access to the NAND any time this decade SD is going to be very important :-) |
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| 23:04:08 | * | preglow again curses telechips for doing things the hard way |
| 23:04:51 | shotofadds | you mailed them yet... :g |
| 23:05:18 | * | shotofadds wishes his 16Gb D2 tester would get back to him. it's not much fun speculatively fixing things... |
| 23:05:44 | preglow | no shit |
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| 23:12:27 | jswetz | Hi, I'm trying to change the behaviour of my iPod when I have hold on during the startup: I don't want it to reset my settings. I've tried to find where the reset is done by searching the source, but I just can't find it. |
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| 23:24:48 | preglow | shotofadds: what i2c address was the pcf again? 10? |
| 23:25:36 | preglow | shotofadds: you have the parameter description for of i2c_write hanging around? |
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| 23:27:16 | jom | hello |
| 23:27:40 | shotofadds | preglow: pcf is 0x10, yeah. int i2c_write(int device, const unsigned char* buf, int count ) is all I have... |
| 23:27:58 | jom | "do you really want to install the bootloader?".... is there a reason NOT to install it? |
| 23:29:35 | preglow | shotofadds: so all i2c devices are actually connected to one gpio pin? one would have thought there'd be an onboard i2c controller they could use... |
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| 23:30:27 | shotofadds | the PCF and WM are definitely using the same GPIOs, yes. that's how the OF works |
| 23:30:41 | shotofadds | not sure why they don't use the hardware I2C, really... |
| 23:31:06 | jom | so no permanent reasons why you wouldnt want to install the bootloader? as far as damaging the ipod? |
| 23:31:27 | Bagder | jom: no |
| 23:32:30 | jom | for some strange reason, it cannot find my ipod.... |
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| 23:32:57 | krazykit | jom, are you absolutely sure you have a supported ipod (as listed on the front page)? |
| 23:33:06 | jom | Ipod First Gen |
| 23:33:23 | jom | it did go through the washer once... but my computer still reconizes it |
| 23:33:45 | BigBambi | have you got admin/root rights? |
| 23:33:51 | jom | yeap |
| 23:34:04 | BigBambi | and it is in disk mode? |
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| 23:34:48 | pixelma | really an old Ipod 1st gen or a Nano or even Mini 1st gen? |
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| 23:35:10 | jom | it was not in disk mode :-/ |
| 23:35:23 | jom | Nano first gen i believe |
| 23:38:17 | krazykit | could you check http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 to be sure? |
| 23:40:10 | jom | yes, its an ipod nano |
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| 23:41:02 | jswetz | I don't really like how the wake-up alarm works on the iPod, because if you happen to switch on hold after you've turned off the player |
| 23:41:37 | jswetz | (sorry, unintentional enter) the OF will start |
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| 23:43:30 | r0rshach | hey guys |
| 23:44:10 | markun | hi r0rshach |
| 23:44:34 | r0rshach | when im connecting my rockbox to my pc to put new songs on it, its telling me to run chkdsk |
| 23:44:39 | r0rshach | which is now running |
| 23:45:08 | markun | every time? |
| 23:45:12 | r0rshach | yeah :( |
| 23:45:27 | r0rshach | this is the 1st time i actually ran it thou |
| 23:45:37 | markun | do you just pull out the cable or "safe disconnect"? |
| 23:45:37 | advcomp2019 | r0rshach, what os? |
| 23:45:40 | r0rshach | it wants to convert the folders that didnt write into files |
| 23:45:42 | r0rshach | winxp |
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| 23:45:55 | r0rshach | i remove the cable when the files are written |
| 23:46:14 | r0rshach | but even before that it would have that 'not finished writing' err occasionally |
| 23:46:14 | jom | i didnt think rockbox would install so easily |
| 23:46:31 | r0rshach | so i know im doing something wrong |
| 23:46:44 | markun | jom: what's your first impression? |
| 23:46:59 | r0rshach | is it advisable to convert these folders to files? |
| 23:47:15 | jom | hmm. my first impression was "sick!" |
| 23:47:21 | markun | :) |
| 23:47:29 | markun | I hope it's the good kind of sickness :) |
| 23:47:36 | jom | indeed :) |
| 23:47:41 | r0rshach | yeah rockbox is fantastic kills the firmware |
| 23:47:56 | jom | due to my bad past exerpieriences with installations. i blame those experiences on Linux |
| 23:48:44 | markun | r0rshach: what's the other option besides converting the folders? deleting them? |
| 23:49:01 | r0rshach | im at the prompt for y/n to convert |
| 23:49:13 | r0rshach | do you want me to say no and continue? |
| 23:49:23 | markun | I have no idea what you should do |
| 23:49:35 | jom | haha. now iTunes wants me to format my ipod |
| 23:49:56 | markun | r0rshach: If you still have all the music on your computer it shouldn't matter I think |
| 23:50:04 | markun | but it's getting late, I have to get some sleep |
| 23:50:18 | r0rshach | ok |
| 23:50:25 | markun | good night |
| 23:51:02 | r0rshach | nite |
| 23:51:15 | jom | night |
| 23:51:28 | jom | strange |
| 23:51:33 | jom | it wont let me install new themes |
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| 23:53:12 | r0rshach | is there a way to be sure its done copying the files so its ok to disconnect the usb? |
| 23:53:19 | jom | "themes list is in wrong format" |
| 23:55:55 | r0rshach | sweet its working okay now |
| 23:56:07 | r0rshach | some winamp.exe err but i can atleast go cut the lawn |
| 23:56:12 | r0rshach | ill defrag this drive later |
| 23:56:16 | preglow | shotofadds: really? seems i2c_write gets passed r0-r3 here, unless i've got it marked wrong. r1 is 0x10 often, so that seems to be 'device' |
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