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| 00:00:44 | kugel | Nico_P: ping |
| 00:00:53 | Nico_P | yes? |
| 00:01:12 | kugel | I briefly looked at the battery bench |
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| 00:01:49 | kugel | besides it started by 55% charge (the OF showed full when I disconnected), it dropped to 33% within 1h15 |
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| 00:03:53 | kugel | Nico_P: It doesn't look too well upto now |
| 00:04:18 | Nico_P | hmm, I'm not really surprised |
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| 00:05:38 | kugel | but the audio is working |
| 00:07:38 | oofus | hi all. I have a problem that I've been trying to track down so I can make a sensible report but am failing badly ! I have an X5L with a collection of all oggs and a few flacs on it. I can play any of these tracks but every now and then one refuses to play. Once I have had a refusal I cannot skip to any other track and play them either. Nothing will play. If I turn the unit off and back on again, the track that refused to play, plays fine. |
| 00:08:04 | oofus | anybody seen the same ? Any suggestions on how I might figure out what is happening |
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| 00:10:35 | oofus | I'm using latest version downloaded and tested today |
| 00:11:10 | oofus | 18359 from the startup screen |
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| 01:05:09 | MXIIA | Is there a way to completely restore the iPod default Firmware to new before installing RockBox (or after) |
| 01:05:45 | MXIIA | I got a new iPod today because my old one broke but the new one has bad songs on it, and I don't want that, nor do I want to boot into Vista to fix it |
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| 01:08:17 | pixelma | so you are on linux? |
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| 01:09:45 | MXIIA | Yes, Ubuntu |
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| 01:11:49 | pixelma | have you seen the IpodManualRestore page in the wiki? But I can not understand why you want to restore it just because of a few songs you don't like, and not simply remove them |
| 01:12:19 | MXIIA | It is about 300 songs, and they remain on the list when I delete them |
| 01:12:20 | domonoky | to get rid of those songs, you could delete them instead of completly restoring it :-) |
| 01:12:38 | MXIIA | Yea, it also has alot of setting that i dont want, I'll look at the wiki |
| 01:13:51 | pixelma | what Ipod is this? |
| 01:14:21 | MXIIA | 4GB Nano first gen |
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| 01:20:40 | MXIIA | Thanks for your help :) |
| 01:22:04 | Unhelpful | still need wiki write access, so i can edit in the format command that seems to work for beast, and also seems to solve the "file not found" bootloader error. |
| 01:22:24 | Unhelpful | ...whenever a wiki admin is around and has time, of course |
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| 01:24:47 | krazykit | Unhelpful, i'll add you to the write list |
| 01:25:07 | Unhelpful | krazykit: didn't even know you could. thanks. |
| 01:25:11 | krazykit | (any user can add other users) |
| 01:25:39 | krazykit | AndrewMahone is your wikiname, right? |
| 01:25:49 | Unhelpful | ah, good to know, if somebody else asks. and it is. |
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| 01:26:23 | Unhelpful | think GigabeatSInfo, or GigabeatSInstallation? |
| 01:27:11 | Unhelpful | the file not found error has bitten me every single time i go through restore mode, so i'd *almost* be willing to suggest formatting as a routine part of installation |
| 01:27:32 | krazykit | all set. you should have write access |
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| 01:30:20 | Unhelpful | think as an install step is best, or just a section before the "Recovery Mode" one? |
| 01:31:22 | toffe82_ | the recovery doesn't format ? it just erase ? |
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| 01:33:54 | Unhelpful | toffe82_: the recovery *does* format, but very often, afterward, there is some sort of filesystem issue where a host PC will see the .rockbox directory contents, but the bootloader will not. |
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| 01:34:36 | toffe82_ | ok |
| 01:34:58 | Unhelpful | formatting it w/ mkdosfs seems to fix that, but you have to do it correctly, because if certain details of the format are not to the OF's liking, the OF bootloader will reformat the partition, and you might be back where you started. |
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| 01:39:44 | MXIIA | http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ what is the difference between 17/1.3.1 (Nano Gen1) and 14/1.3.1? |
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| 01:57:37 | Unhelpful | is there a reason the GigabeatSInstallation page doesn't refer to the hacked GBV nk.bin file available via the GigabeatSInfo page? |
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| 02:08:10 | MXIIA | http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ what is the difference between 17/1.3.1 (Nano Gen1) and 14/1.3.1? |
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| 02:12:18 | krazykit | MXIIA, no need to repeat your question. chances are, the answer is "probably a couple bugfixes" |
| 02:13:11 | MXIIA | Ok, so more recent is better, (ex 17) |
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| 02:14:23 | krazykit | presumably. |
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| 02:24:28 | Llorean | MXIIA: That question is irrelevant here anyway, this channel is about Rockbox. |
| 02:25:12 | MXIIA | Oh, sorry, :/ |
| 02:25:41 | pixelma | it is linked from the IpodManualRestore though |
| 02:26:17 | Llorean | pixelma: Yeah, but details like the differences in OF versions don't really matter here, just whether or not you can install Rockbox on top of them. |
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| 03:06:48 | Naboofighter93 | Hello? |
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| 03:09:40 | reacocard | Naboofighter93: hi |
| 03:10:00 | Naboofighter93 | ? |
| 03:10:19 | reacocard | you said hello |
| 03:10:24 | reacocard | I was responding |
| 03:10:35 | Unhelpful | if you have a question, you should probably ask it. and wait, because whoever can answer might not at their keyboard. |
| 03:10:40 | Naboofighter93 | I'm looking for some help with the rockbox instalation |
| 03:11:04 | advcomp2019 | Naboofighter93, just ask |
| 03:11:10 | _emp | hello |
| 03:11:44 | Naboofighter93 | With the auto installer it says "could not open ipod" and when I try the manual install, the ipodpatcher reports "no ipod found" |
| 03:12:09 | Naboofighter93 | I've read through the manual and followed directions |
| 03:12:14 | _emp | Naboofighter93, what os are you using? |
| 03:12:25 | Naboofighter93 | vista |
| 03:12:27 | Naboofighter93 | 32bit |
| 03:12:28 | advcomp2019 | Naboofighter93, what ipod |
| 03:12:35 | Naboofighter93 | nano, 1st gen |
| 03:12:49 | Naboofighter93 | the autodetect on the utility finds it fine |
| 03:13:20 | _emp | are you running it as admin? |
| 03:13:34 | Naboofighter93 | Yes |
| 03:14:45 | Llorean | Naboofighter93: Not just running it from an admin account, are you specifically telling it to run the program in admin mode? |
| 03:15:18 | Naboofighter93 | Yes, i tried both the utility and the patcher in admin mode |
| 03:15:49 | Llorean | Is the iPod working in the Apple firmware? |
| 03:15:56 | Naboofighter93 | yes |
| 03:16:12 | Naboofighter93 | I re-installed itunes and reset the ipod to make sure |
| 03:16:14 | Llorean | And you're absolutely sure it's a 1st gen Nano? |
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| 03:16:37 | Naboofighter93 | yes |
| 03:17:09 | Llorean | What color is it? |
| 03:17:53 | Naboofighter93 | Silver, w/ a screen. It doesn't play video. Its 4bg capacity, the serial number is 6u649sxmv8t |
| 03:18:04 | Llorean | Silver is not 1st Generation |
| 03:18:09 | Llorean | 1st Generation only came in Black and White |
| 03:18:24 | Llorean | The 2nd Generation Nano does not play video either, and it came in silver and a variety of colors. |
| 03:18:35 | Llorean | Only the third generation of Nano plays video. |
| 03:18:50 | Naboofighter93 | ok, let me try selecting second gen |
| 03:19:07 | Llorean | There is no option for 2nd gene nano |
| 03:19:10 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't run on it. |
| 03:19:22 | Naboofighter93 | oh |
| 03:19:34 | Naboofighter93 | well damn |
| 03:19:54 | _emp | Llorean, is the firmware on the 2G/3G ipod nano's packed like typical PE packers? |
| 03:20:37 | Naboofighter93 | do you know of any other firmware i could put on it? |
| 03:20:45 | Llorean | Naboofighter93: nobody has cracked the encryption yet. |
| 03:20:58 | Llorean | _emp: I know absolutely nothing about it beyond that it's encrypted. |
| 03:21:23 | Naboofighter93 | that sucks, thanks for your time anyway |
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| 03:55:55 | _emp | is the bios up to date? |
| 03:56:13 | _emp | nevermind |
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| 05:09:22 | Ginger_ | heya |
| 05:09:54 | Ginger_ | i will give love to anybody who knows whats wrong with my ipod |
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| 05:10:32 | Ginger_ | ok, i will pay whoever fixes it, lol |
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| 05:12:21 | reacocard | Ginger_: it might help to tell us what trouble youre having first |
| 05:14:21 | DogBoy | send money first |
| 05:15:37 | Ginger_ | haha, nah |
| 05:15:40 | Ginger_ | money after |
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| 05:31:39 | Ginger_ | alright, my ipod which has rockbox on it, will not start up |
| 05:31:54 | Ginger_ | once upon a time, i washed the thing, then pluged it in to charge and... and it worked fine |
| 05:32:12 | Ginger_ | but when i plug it in now, on several different computers with different cords, the computers will not reconize it |
| 05:32:18 | Ginger_ | and now it just wont start up |
| 05:32:30 | DogBoy | send it to apple? |
| 05:32:50 | Ginger_ | not the original owner, and its prolly old enough to have passed its warrenty |
| 05:33:02 | DogBoy | so what |
| 05:33:33 | DogBoy | mine was no longer in warranty but they just replaced it no charge |
| 05:33:46 | Llorean | Ginger_: Have you tried plugging it into a PC, then turning hold off and on again, then holding Menu+Select for 30 seconds? |
| 05:34:20 | Llorean | Also, you may want to leave it hooked up to a PC or charger for 24+ hours. Sometimes they get in a discharged state where leaving them plugged in for a very long time helps even if you can't see anything happening. |
| 05:34:58 | Ginger_ | lemme try it |
| 05:35:14 | Ginger_ | i left it plugged in for a looong time :-/ |
| 05:35:37 | Ginger_ | wtf? |
| 05:35:40 | Ginger_ | its working! |
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| 05:35:48 | Ginger_ | or not |
| 05:35:58 | Ginger_ | it turns on, gets bright then turns off |
| 05:36:10 | Llorean | Is the cable plugged in? |
| 05:36:14 | Ginger_ | yes |
| 05:36:22 | Ginger_ | but each tiem it does that, it goes for a little longer |
| 05:36:31 | Llorean | I'd recommend leaving it plugged in for a day then. |
| 05:36:32 | Ginger_ | ok... i dont konw what the ef happened, but now its working |
| 05:36:36 | Ginger_ | yayy |
| 05:36:40 | Llorean | Make sure it gets a good full charge. |
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| 05:45:48 | DogBoy | nice |
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| 05:59:02 | danovotny | hello |
| 05:59:10 | reacocard | hi |
| 05:59:41 | danovotny | just a quick question... with the simulator, how do you get it to simulate the music screen? i told it to build the database, but then it just sits there |
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| 06:00:29 | reacocard | just play a file like you normally would in rockbox on the device |
| 06:00:56 | danovotny | =\ under files, there is nothing |
| 06:01:18 | reacocard | did you put music files into your archos folder? |
| 06:01:48 | danovotny | =( now i feel stupid, i put it in the .rockbox |
| 06:01:49 | danovotny | sorry |
| 06:01:57 | reacocard | not a problem :) |
| 06:02:35 | danovotny | thanks much! |
| 06:02:50 | reacocard | you're welcome |
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| 08:28:20 | cfp | I was wondering |
| 08:29:11 | cfp | Has anybody checked out my patch #9325 ? |
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| 11:41:59 | krz_ | hello all |
| 11:43:02 | krz_ | gevaerts: hi :) |
| 11:43:04 | LinusN | welcome |
| 11:43:24 | krz_ | new patch of wpseditor is ready |
| 11:44:54 | num1 | hello |
| 11:47:02 | mcuelenaere | krz_: rbutil/wpseditor/libwps/src/include/lang.h & firmware/include/time.h seem to include TABs |
| 11:47:49 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: those in firmware/include/time.h are in svn |
| 11:48:00 | mcuelenaere | yes true, but those should be resolved too :) |
| 11:48:37 | krz_ | :) |
| 11:48:56 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: probably, but _not_ in an unrelated patch |
| 11:49:13 | mcuelenaere | ok, then I'll do these later |
| 11:49:48 | krz_ | lang.h fixed. i'll create a new patch with a bit more changes |
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| 11:50:57 | mcuelenaere | oh yes and I saw just one # define; it's not that I'm against it but I read others complained.. |
| 11:51:07 | mcuelenaere | still just one* |
| 11:51:27 | krz_ | what define? |
| 11:51:52 | linuxstb | So are people happy for wpseditor to be under rbutil, even though it's not part of rbutil? |
| 11:52:18 | mcuelenaere | srry, I was wrong: it's an #include: +# include "debug.h" in apps/gui/wps_parser.c |
| 11:52:43 | B4gder | linuxstb: I can't say I see the logic in that, no... |
| 11:52:44 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: IMO, it should be under utils/ |
| 11:52:53 | mcuelenaere | I always had it there when testing it |
| 11:52:58 | B4gder | yes utils/ seems fine |
| 11:53:05 | linuxstb | krz_: Why do you need to make that change to font.c ? creat() doesn't work for you? |
| 11:53:29 | B4gder | linuxstb: it lacks an argument for host |
| 11:53:29 | krz_ | linuxstb: as far as i remember early talk with mentor - wpseditor could be integrated into rbutil |
| 11:53:57 | linuxstb | krz_: Yes, _could be_ - so if it ever is, then the source could be moved. (we have "svn mv") |
| 11:54:19 | B4gder | and it could then be used as a lib or whaever, to allow a stand-alone wpseditor anyway |
| 11:54:26 | * | linuxstb isn't sure he likes the idea of a monolithic "do everything" rbutil |
| 11:54:30 | krz_ | linuxstb: so, where could it be? |
| 11:54:50 | krz_ | any proposes? |
| 11:54:55 | linuxstb | I would have said just put it at the same level as rbutil. Others have suggested inside utils/ |
| 11:55:45 | krz_ | may be a voting will help? |
| 11:56:29 | krz_ | B4gder,gevaerts, mcuelenaere: what do you think? |
| 11:56:29 | pixelma | let the RSB decide? ;) |
| 11:56:46 | B4gder | let the committer decide! |
| 11:56:46 | * | gevaerts thinks that rbutil should be in util |
| 11:56:55 | * | B4gder agrees with gevaerts |
| 11:56:57 | mcuelenaere | about loading other targets'es WPS'es in WPS editor (in logs): the way I suggested it to krz was to compile one "proxy" lib for every target and to get WPS editor to load them dynamically |
| 11:57:36 | linuxstb | pixelma: That would mean we would actually need to meet... |
| 11:57:50 | krz_ | mcuelenaere: we discussed this way yesterday |
| 11:58:03 | mcuelenaere | krz_: ah ok, I didn't know there was a conclusion |
| 11:58:08 | mcuelenaere | I saw the discussion though |
| 11:58:17 | B4gder | and utils should then be seen as "utils that are for host and not strictly used when building rockbox" |
| 11:58:33 | B4gder | as tools contain the host tools for building |
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| 12:05:17 | krz_ | btw, i'd like to left ex. "gui" _folder_ as "gui", not wpseditor, because now there are wpseditor/wpseditor. and the name of an executable can be wpseditor |
| 12:05:33 | gevaerts | That's fine |
| 12:05:46 | krz_ | good :) |
| 12:07:41 | linuxstb | B4gder: We should probably move checkwps then... Although that could make it trickier to include it in a normal build. |
| 12:08:11 | B4gder | hm yes |
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| 12:10:53 | linuxstb | B4gder: Was your answer "it lacks an argument for host" in response to my question about the use of creat() in font.c? |
| 12:11:04 | B4gder | yes |
| 12:11:11 | B4gder | creat() in rockbox takes one argument |
| 12:11:11 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "host"? |
| 12:11:20 | linuxstb | You mean the mode? |
| 12:11:23 | B4gder | yes |
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| 12:11:41 | linuxstb | Ah, so our creat() isn't POSIX? |
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| 12:11:54 | B4gder | nope, it's a deviation |
| 12:12:17 | Unhelpful | couldn't do anything useful w/ the mode on FAT, really, anyway... |
| 12:12:39 | B4gder | exactly, we decided years ago that we rather be slim that keeping a weird posix compliance for that |
| 12:12:45 | B4gder | s/that/than |
| 12:13:02 | linuxstb | But Rockbox doesn't just run on FAT.... There's the simulator, plus (hopefully...) rockbox-as-app at some point. |
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| 12:13:59 | B4gder | perhaps we need to rethink that one day, but so far we don't use other modes anyway |
| 12:14:18 | B4gder | so hardcoding a mode for the sim and the app will work for now |
| 12:14:24 | linuxstb | B4gder: Any ideas about saratoga's evaluation - if JdGordon can't do it? |
| 12:15:19 | B4gder | linuxstb: I asked jd about it and he said he can do the evaluation, but that he wouldn't have time to check out the patch closely before then |
| 12:15:47 | Unhelpful | weird, battery_bench seems not to be writing its file... |
| 12:16:02 | linuxstb | B4gder: Do you (and others) want to come to #rockbox-gsoc... ? |
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| 12:45:38 | mcuelenaere | krz_: I don't know if this is wanted behaviour, but if you exce WPS editor |
| 12:45:43 | mcuelenaere | woops |
| 12:45:55 | krz_ | ? |
| 12:46:02 | mcuelenaere | lemme first finish my sentence ;) |
| 12:46:54 | mcuelenaere | I don't know if this is wanted behaviour, but if you execute WPS editor, open a WPS and say change the volume (don't close the volume slide window); and close the main window, WPS editor isn't exited |
| 12:47:07 | mcuelenaere | because the volume slide window is still there |
| 12:47:19 | mcuelenaere | this is also true for the track position window |
| 12:47:59 | krz_ | mcuelenaere: hm, probably a bug |
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| 12:54:46 | pixelma | I noticed two things more or less related to A-B repeat/repeat mode handling in the WPS: 1) it once was passible to use the %mm (repeat mode tag) unconditionally in the WPS which should return numbers from 0 to 4. This doesn't work currently and even worse, it made my sim crash. From a quick look at the code I think this isn't even prepared in the WPS parser |
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| 12:57:18 | pixelma | 2) There is a AB_REPEAT_ENABLE define in the target config files (which can be set to 1 or 2, depending on whether there are enough buttons or not) but now it is possible to have AB repeat on all targets, it just differs in the controls - couldn't this define be made simpler? |
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| 12:59:48 | pixelma | about (1) - I think either the old behaviour should be restored (it is still described on the CustomWPS wiki page) - or a WPS which contains this should be rejected. Currently it just crashes without warning |
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| 13:21:56 | pixelma | %mm in a WPS doesn't crash on my Ondio but always shows "2048", no matter what repeat mode is set |
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| 15:48:25 | kugel | why performs equalizer so bad on e200? |
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| 15:50:40 | gevaerts | In comparison to what? |
| 15:52:33 | kugel | generally bad. I get audio drop outs, no need to compare |
| 15:53:51 | gevaerts | We only use one core right now, and one 80MHz arm is simply not enough for full five-channel equalizing |
| 15:54:01 | gevaerts | s/channel/band/ |
| 15:54:14 | gevaerts | How many bands have you tweaked (i.e. not at 0) |
| 15:55:07 | kugel | 5 i think |
| 15:55:20 | gevaerts | Maybe, if saratoga's multicore work is successful, in the future there will be more CPU available for DSP. Not sure if it will be enough though. |
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| 15:55:34 | saratoga | kugel: try my mp3 on cop patch |
| 15:55:55 | gevaerts | Or try reducing the number of bands |
| 15:56:08 | kugel | It's a long time ago when I changed something in the eq settings. When I noticed it's bad performing I turned it off. Now it got accidentally turned on |
| 15:56:30 | kugel | gevaerts: how? |
| 15:56:38 | gevaerts | Set some of them to 0 |
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| 15:56:49 | * | gevaerts understands that that should be better |
| 15:56:58 | kugel | ok |
| 15:57:27 | gevaerts | I only repeat what I've heard earlier, so please don't hit me if it doesn't make a difference ;) |
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| 15:58:22 | kugel | gevaerts: ah yea, with two possible to not run at 80MHz all the time |
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| 15:58:55 | gevaerts | I doubt if saratoga's patch will allow 5, but maybe you can get to 3 |
| 15:59:15 | kugel | saratoga: Is there any known issue except the one with test_codec? |
| 15:59:34 | saratoga | it breaks mpegplayer, and probably building the sims and any other target without 2 cpus |
| 15:59:51 | kugel | also, does the patch only work for mp3? |
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| 16:00:03 | saratoga | basically it needs a lot of ifdefs |
| 16:00:07 | saratoga | yeah mp3 only |
| 16:00:19 | saratoga | i'm not sure if it'll ever go into svn |
| 16:00:20 | kugel | hm most of my music isn't mp3 |
| 16:00:26 | saratoga | what do you use? |
| 16:00:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mine neither. |
| 16:00:52 | kugel | some mp3, some m4a, but mostly ogg |
| 16:01:02 | gevaerts | I understand the current patch is more a proof of concept anyway |
| 16:01:02 | kugel | ogg is great imho |
| 16:01:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | Similar to kugel... some MP3, a little M4A, some FLAC, but primarily Vorbis. |
| 16:01:35 | saratoga | ogg is so fast |
| 16:01:40 | saratoga | surprising you get drop outs |
| 16:01:49 | gevaerts | with 5 bands? |
| 16:02:02 | saratoga | 5 band must use 50 mhz then |
| 16:02:30 | gevaerts | How hard would it be to just put DSP on the second core? |
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| 16:03:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | The only codec that I know of that uses the second core is SPC (I could be wrong, though). |
| 16:05:12 | kugel | gevaerts: dsp on cop sounds nice. I also wonder if it'd be possible to do buffering on both cores |
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| 16:12:16 | kugel | saratoga: is your mp3 on cop patch meant to always run on the second core? |
| 16:15:13 | kugel | I guess it'd be better to dynamically choose the core with the least load |
| 16:16:06 | krz_ | gevaerts: can we make a review? |
| 16:16:41 | kugel | krz_: Is it still only showing h10 screen size preview? |
| 16:17:05 | krz_ | kugel: jup |
| 16:17:27 | kugel | krz_: would you mind fixing that, and read the screen size from the wps? |
| 16:18:02 | krz_ | kugel: actually i think it is impossible to read screen size from wps |
| 16:18:06 | kugel | shouldn't be a problem to read the size of the backdrop and apply it to the preview, would it? |
| 16:18:54 | kugel | and maybe promt the user in themes w/o backrop, or read it from a comment in the wps alternatively |
| 16:18:57 | krz_ | god idea |
| 16:19:00 | krz_ | *good |
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| 16:20:03 | pixelma | kugel: read the size of the backdrop? What if the WPS has no backdrop? |
| 16:20:19 | kugel | pixelma: Read what I wrote after |
| 16:20:49 | kugel | krz_: I also can imagine a field for screen dimensions in the top left part of the editor |
| 16:21:18 | pixelma | ok, read on now. But there are WPS without backdrop even on colour targets - and text only WPSs could work on more than one screen size |
| 16:22:11 | kugel | pixelma: "and maybe promt the user in themes w/o backrop, or read it from a comment in the wps alternatively" |
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| 16:24:35 | pixelma | yes, that's what I meant with that I read on now, just wanted you to not forget the great variety of targets/screens... one interesting example could be the 160x128 sized displays - there are monochrome, greyscale and colour ones of that size ;) |
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| 16:25:34 | pixelma | and also the fact that text based or simple WPSs could work in more than one size |
| 16:26:46 | kugel | should be no problem with promting the user. Then ask not only for x and y, but also for depth |
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| 16:28:21 | _emp | I'm having some problems building rbutilqt. My arch is amd64, and the build keeps breaking at rbspeex. Any suggestions before I start re-writing Makefiles? |
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| 16:29:22 | kugel | _emp: ask domonoky again, he just joined |
| 16:30:51 | _emp | domonoky, I'm having problems building rbutilqt on openbsd amd64. Here's my error: http://pastebin.com/d29554391 |
| 16:31:33 | domonoky | _emp: try building just the rbspeex lib, go to tools/rbspeex and run make and see if it fails or not |
| 16:32:21 | _emp | that works fine |
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| 16:33:40 | _emp | have all ready been successful getting a fullzip built, and I patched ipodpatcher to work. This is just the next piece I'm working on. |
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| 16:34:17 | kugel | _emp: your make commands like weird. "qmake && make" in the rbutil folder should be ok |
| 16:34:48 | domonoky | do you need this options for gmake ? maybe something goes wrong there. normally i just call "qmake && make" in the rbutilqt dir.. |
| 16:35:07 | _emp | I have tried that to |
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| 16:35:57 | _emp | http://pastebin.com/d32d9a43 |
| 16:35:59 | kugel | well, that always worked for me, though it's been a few month since my last rbutil building. But I've also compilied on 64bit |
| 16:36:01 | saratoga | kugel: the patch just forces half of the mp3 decoder onto the second core |
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| 16:36:21 | saratoga | once i get a chance i'm going to do more power measurements to see what the improvement is |
| 16:36:32 | kugel | saratoga: and why not let it choose the core with the least load? |
| 16:36:44 | saratoga | kugel: thats not really needed |
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| 16:36:50 | saratoga | the load on the second core is always zero now |
| 16:37:22 | saratoga | except maybe on some grayscale targets which use it for drawing I think |
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| 16:37:31 | kugel | saratoga: Sure, but I can imagine that if we start continue putting things on the second core, that this could change. |
| 16:37:43 | domonoky | _emp: maybe the make in bsd has problems with the rbspeex command in rbutilqt.pro ? |
| 16:37:51 | saratoga | i don't think dynamically changing it makes much sense, probably easier and safer to just pick what goes where |
| 16:38:17 | Ubuntuxer | Hi |
| 16:38:20 | saratoga | probably everything on the first core except codecs, and for codec with multithreading, the second thread would go back onto the first core |
| 16:38:25 | kugel | why hardcoding it into the second core, it's not the ideal of threading imho |
| 16:39:01 | domonoky | _emp: to test if thats the problem, try callling: "make -C ../../tools/rbspeex librbspeex" in the rbutilqt folder |
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| 16:39:20 | kugel | what would be the disadvantages of dynamically choosing the core? |
| 16:39:29 | Bagder | domonoky: that should probably use $(MAKE) and not 'make' |
| 16:39:31 | kugel | Ubuntuxer: hi |
| 16:39:33 | Bagder | kugel: simplicity |
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| 16:39:44 | Bagder | dynamic core sounds awful to me |
| 16:40:04 | XavierGr | domonoky: do you know why some strings in rbutil are duplicated? |
| 16:40:04 | domonoky | Bagder: i just checked and its $(MAKE) :-) |
| 16:40:08 | Bagder | ah |
| 16:40:25 | domonoky | XavierGr: you mean strings for translation ? |
| 16:40:29 | XavierGr | yes |
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| 16:41:10 | kugel | what if there's a target in the future with more than 2 cores? or something like the upcoming intel atom (2 cores + smt). we would need to start the whole multithread from zero |
| 16:41:14 | domonoky | that because there are multiple times in the Code. and as you may sometimes translate it different, depending on where it is in the programm, you get all strings.. |
| 16:41:51 | _emp | domonoky, http://pastebin.com/d424f839d |
| 16:41:54 | domonoky | but qlinguist gives you suggestions for translations, so it shouldnt be much of a problem .. |
| 16:42:07 | XavierGr | domonoky: so it is intended that way in order to maybe change the context of one string if needed? |
| 16:42:29 | domonoky | jup, that how it is done in all Qt programms... |
| 16:42:40 | XavierGr | domonoky: no that's not a problem I just asked in case it was not intended |
| 16:42:45 | Ubuntuxer | showstopr and I would like to present you our projekt, named Rockbox Center |
| 16:42:49 | Bagder | kugel: not at all |
| 16:43:02 | Bagder | kugel: we'd do it exactly like we do with iram |
| 16:43:23 | showstopr | we'd like to ask if there's someone here who maintains the rbutil |
| 16:43:24 | domonoky | Ubuntuxer: i just wonder why you dont contribute to rbutil, and invent the wheel again.. :-) |
| 16:43:40 | * | domonoky is one of the main rbutil devs.. :-) |
| 16:43:43 | * | Bagder runs away |
| 16:43:59 | * | LambdaCalculus37 jumps behind the sofa |
| 16:44:38 | kugel | domonoky: support of custom builds mainly |
| 16:45:05 | Ubuntuxer | We would like to ask, wheter we could use some pieces of your code |
| 16:45:20 | Ubuntuxer | the detection of the players |
| 16:45:31 | _emp | brb |
| 16:45:40 | kugel | well, I don't like the idea of hardcoded multithreading. But if you say dynamically choosing the core it's too complex and not needed for now, I won't argue. I'm not an expert in multithreading |
| 16:45:54 | kugel | Ubuntuxer: It's GPL, sure you can |
| 16:45:56 | GodEater | Ubuntuxer: provided you comply with the terms of the GPL, of course |
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| 16:46:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | Can I ask exactly Rockbox Center is supposed to be? |
| 16:46:26 | Ubuntuxer | we want ask despite of that |
| 16:46:42 | domonoky | Ubuntuxer: jup its GPL, so you are free to copy anthing you want from rbutil... |
| 16:47:12 | showstopr | domonoky: yes, but we thought it would be better if we ask |
| 16:47:26 | domonoky | this implies, that Rockbox center is also under GPL of course.. |
| 16:47:43 | showstopr | domonoky: thats correct |
| 16:47:47 | Ubuntuxer | besides we would like introduce our project and want to know what do you think of it;-) |
| 16:48:32 | showstopr | well, it's wriiten in python and later on it should use wxpython for gui |
| 16:48:33 | kugel | I hope you've prepared a colorful and fancy presentation |
| 16:48:57 | Ubuntuxer | here is our project page http://rockboxcenter.berlios.de/ |
| 16:49:11 | showstopr | it's just in the beginning |
| 16:49:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | .... |
| 16:49:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's RBUtil all over again. |
| 16:49:45 | domonoky | hihi wxphython, an earlier version of rbutil was written in wx .-) |
| 16:50:00 | Ubuntuxer | We know the official tool Rockbox Utility, but we would like to program a new program, which is written in Python, because we are not so familiar with C. The decided advantage of Python is that we can use OOP, so we can realisize new functions easier and faster than Rockbox Utility. Rockbox Center doesn't just install Rockbox and the Rockbox Extras, it supports a data transfer to your player and convert your files into the rig |
| 16:50:36 | Ubuntuxer | I write this in launchpad |
| 16:50:39 | GodEater | RBUtil is C++ |
| 16:50:47 | GodEater | so it's OOP also |
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| 16:52:03 | domonoky | i just dont understand why you dont want to extend rbutil for this new features, and instead want to reinvent the wheel... |
| 16:52:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | And RBUtil utilizes Qt, and is cross-platform. |
| 16:52:36 | domonoky | but you are free todo what you want... Rockbox Center just wont be never supported by rockbox.. |
| 16:53:35 | Ubuntuxer | Ok, I can understand your scepticism |
| 16:53:45 | showstopr | we just don't like the rbutil |
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| 16:53:48 | Dhraakellian | and why would you need a special program to transfer files? Amarok will do fancy renaming for you, but a plain old filemanager will suffice |
| 16:53:50 | * | domonoky would suggest learning C++ and helping rbutil would be better.. but you dont have to.. :-) |
| 16:54:15 | Dhraakellian | now, if it automatically submits the scrobbler.log when you connect it... |
| 16:54:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | And there are plenty of image manipulation tools out there to work on album art. |
| 16:54:29 | domonoky | if you dont like rbutil, you could help and improve it, so you like it.. :-) |
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| 16:54:52 | * | LambdaCalculus37 thinks RBUtil is fine like a cherry wine ;) |
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| 16:55:05 | showstopr | domonoky: good argument, but we are just able to program in python ;) |
| 16:55:12 | domonoky | we are also planning to seperate rbutil gui more from the core, so it would be even possible to write another gui if someone likes.. |
| 16:55:50 | domonoky | showstopr: but if you only can programm in phyton how do you want to use rbutils device detection ? that written in c/C++ |
| 16:55:55 | Ubuntuxer | the data-transfer is really a new useful feature |
| 16:56:30 | showstopr | domonoky: i mean i'm not a pro in c/c++ but for this task my knowledge is enough^^ |
| 16:57:04 | gevaerts | kugel: I'm home now, so I'm ready to get started |
| 16:57:05 | Ubuntuxer | Rockbox Center convert images, albumarts and videos to the right rockbox format |
| 16:57:11 | gevaerts | krz: I'm home now, so I'm ready to get started |
| 16:57:18 | domonoky | if you know enough C/C++ to extract the device detection form rbutil and use it in rbutil, you should know enough to imporve rbutil :-) |
| 16:57:23 | krz_ | gevaerts: good :) |
| 16:57:31 | domonoky | äh use it in phyton... |
| 16:57:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yes, but how are you going to do that? Are you going to have it call another app, or are you going to build in that functionality into the source? |
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| 16:58:05 | Ubuntuxer | we have a player detection, which uses hal and the usb.ids |
| 16:58:12 | showstopr | LambdaCalculus37: we want to use other apps |
| 16:58:19 | domonoky | how do you handle conflicting usb ids ? |
| 16:58:22 | Ubuntuxer | but it's doesn't plattform independent |
| 16:58:34 | Ubuntuxer | so it just works under Linux |
| 16:59:08 | gevaerts | Ubuntuxer: will you also be present here and on the forums most of the time to provide support? |
| 17:00 |
| 17:01:01 | Ubuntuxer | We are just three developers |
| 17:01:27 | gevaerts | So that means people will come and bother us if they have a problem using your tool? |
| 17:01:40 | domonoky | there were a few different unofficial installer for rockox (rix, and others). We always had problems when users used this apps, because they were easily outdated... |
| 17:01:59 | Ubuntuxer | we try to make it really stable |
| 17:02:15 | Ubuntuxer | before we publish it |
| 17:02:56 | showstopr | gevaerts: there's a thread at ubuntuusers.de... |
| 17:03:16 | Ubuntuxer | we are from germany |
| 17:03:28 | gevaerts | You said earlier that you don't like rbutil. What's wrong with it? |
| 17:03:39 | * | domonoky mentions that the two main devs of rbutil are also from germany :-) |
| 17:04:00 | * | linuxstb wonders if that's a co-incidence, or something more... |
| 17:04:13 | * | gevaerts is happy that ipodpatcher and sansapatcher still exist :) |
| 17:04:54 | Ubuntuxer | it doesn't look beatiful under Ubuntu Linux |
| 17:05:10 | gevaerts | Then fix ubuntu |
| 17:05:11 | domonoky | gevaerts: and they should always exist, rbutil is only for conviniece, it should always be possible to install in a manual way.. :-) |
| 17:05:55 | gevaerts | krz_: there are still a few # define and # include in your patch (instead of #define and #include). Would you mind fixing those? |
| 17:05:55 | domonoky | Ubuntuxer: just tune the Qt settings in Ubuntu, or use Kubuntu, the it will blend in perfectly.. :-) |
| 17:06:30 | krz_ | gevaerts: hw, wher? |
| 17:06:34 | krz_ | where |
| 17:06:34 | * | reacocard thinks QT looks fine in Ubuntu |
| 17:07:04 | reacocard | sur eits a little out-of-place, but you're using this util maybe once a month? |
| 17:07:10 | gevaerts | krz_: wpseditor/libwps/src/defs.h has a few defines, and apps/gui/wps_parser.c has the #include |
| 17:07:16 | domonoky | the look of Qt apps depend on system settings, so its not really a problem of rbutil.. |
| 17:07:18 | saratoga | reinventing rbutil sounds like a pretty bad idea, since it'd need to be continually resynced with the main app, and in periods where its out of sync it could be problematic for users |
| 17:07:23 | _emp | any suggetions for next steps? I hope to work on getting this to work tonight. |
| 17:07:32 | saratoga | installers really should be developed in close cooperation with the app they install to avoid problems |
| 17:08:20 | Ubuntuxer | we would like to make Rockbox Center more user friendly |
| 17:08:36 | gevaerts | In what way? |
| 17:08:44 | domonoky | _emp: you have to some how fix the make call for rbspeex in rbutilqt.pro, there is already a different command for osx, so just make a new rule for bsd.. |
| 17:08:47 | reacocard | really the onyl thing I see your tool doing the rbutil doesnt is working with the files, which is better left to your music player's MSC suppoort anyway |
| 17:09:25 | krz_ | gevaerts: can we leave # define in defs.h? it makes code more readable |
| 17:09:34 | Ubuntuxer | e.g. if you had install a extra RC install the same extra automatically; if you wish so |
| 17:09:55 | Ubuntuxer | it remembers what the user have done |
| 17:10:08 | gevaerts | krz_: I won't insist too hard on those as it's your file anyway. Let's see what others say |
| 17:10:57 | krz_ | domonoky: what do you think? |
| 17:11:14 | * | domonoky just lets Ubuntuxer be, and hope we dont get too much problems whith this new tool... |
| 17:11:30 | linuxstb | Ubuntuxer: Why not leave the actual installation to rbutil, and instead work on adapting an existing music player application to integrate with Rockbox? |
| 17:11:47 | reacocard | linuxstb: that's what Im doing :) |
| 17:11:56 | reacocard | starting with on-computer DB-generation |
| 17:12:04 | linuxstb | reacocard: Cool... Which player(s) ? |
| 17:12:15 | reacocard | but eventually extending to full support in Exaile with a lib anyone can use |
| 17:12:17 | domonoky | krz_: you can leave that define if you want.. its not really a problem.. |
| 17:12:37 | * | GodEater hasn't looked at Exaile |
| 17:12:38 | reacocard | it wont install, just work really well with an existing install of rockbox |
| 17:12:53 | reacocard | that is, IMO, the best way to go |
| 17:12:54 | _emp | domonoky, gotcha; I'll work on that tonight then. |
| 17:13:23 | * | kugel would like the h10 screen size preview to be fixed before committing |
| 17:14:13 | gevaerts | krz_: proxy.c has letoh16(), htole32(), and plugin_get_buffer(). Are they really needed ? I can't find anything that calls letoh16() and htole32(), and I don't really see why plugin_get_buffer() should be needed |
| 17:14:32 | domonoky | kugel: i dont think this wrong,the h10 has a 128x128 display.. |
| 17:14:47 | gevaerts | krz_: maybe make e200 the default. Then kugel will be happy |
| 17:15:00 | kugel | domonoky: yea, but I want to edit wps of other targets |
| 17:15:35 | domonoky | kugel: yes, but for this you need multi target support ready, ie seperate prox libs for every target... |
| 17:15:39 | kugel | gevaerts: I don't think I'd be happy. I just wouldn't notice the flaw ;) |
| 17:15:53 | gevaerts | kugel: you can build other proxy libs and copy them to the right place |
| 17:16:20 | krz_ | gevaerts: probably it is called somewhere in gwps, or else.. i can't reember now but we can get unresolved external |
| 17:17:39 | krz_ | kugel: have a patience. other targets will be soon |
| 17:18:11 | kugel | is the wps editor supposed to be build per target? |
| 17:18:35 | pixelma | there are 2 different possible screen sizes for a h10s ;) |
| 17:18:37 | krz_ | kugel: nope |
| 17:18:45 | domonoky | kugel: no, but it will need a proxy-lib per target... |
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| 17:18:55 | kugel | ah ok |
| 17:19:06 | krz_ | kugel: other targets will be swithced on runtime if you wait a bit ;) |
| 17:19:16 | gevaerts | kugel: at some point there will be a way to choose which target you want (maybe a menu), which will then load the right lib |
| 17:19:25 | kugel | krz_: Ok, I wait |
| 17:19:44 | kugel | krz_: but if I was your mentor, I wouldn't accept it until multitarget support |
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| 17:20:18 | krz_ | kugel: let my mentor decide |
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| 17:21:18 | domonoky | kugel: dealine is tomorrow, so multitarget will come later.. |
| 17:21:26 | gevaerts | kugel: right now we're talking about committing what's there. We know that there is still a lot missing, but that won't get done today anyway |
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| 17:23:03 | amiconn | kugel: Re choosing core dynamically - that means we'd need to introduce premptive threading, plus cache coherency handling *everywhere* |
| 17:23:40 | kugel | amiconn: then start with it now, it's a lot of work! :) |
| 17:23:43 | amiconn | PP *is* special in this case - multicore PC hardware handles cache coherency automagicallly |
| 17:23:57 | amiconn | kugel: First of all it is work that's not worth it. |
| 17:24:11 | gevaerts | krz_: there are a few problems with libwps/Makefile. The shared-linux target tries to compile libwps.c instead of proxy.c, and the cp the tries to copy libproxy.so instead of libwps.so |
| 17:24:14 | kugel | Ok, I understand |
| 17:24:15 | amiconn | I'd expect an overall performance decrease from it |
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| 17:24:18 | pixelma | kugel would also be satisfied when the WPS editor would only support one target - as long as that would be the e200's screen ;P |
| 17:24:21 | kugel | I said, I'm not the expert |
| 17:24:29 | kugel | pixelma: wrong |
| 17:25:18 | krz_ | domonoky: actually multitarget could be done quickly :) |
| 17:26:15 | domonoky | krz_: yes, i think multitarget wont be hard, but there will be surely some problems, so we wait for after the commit.. |
| 17:26:33 | kugel | krz_: that's what I thought too |
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| 17:27:37 | gevaerts | krz_: let's first clean up and commit what's there now. You can do multitarget tomorrow :) |
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| 17:28:29 | GodEater | wow - someone actually went with my suggestion of libwps :) |
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| 17:28:35 | krz_ | gevaerts: oki :) are there else any problems? |
| 17:29:02 | gevaerts | krz_: still looking :) |
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| 17:37:42 | gevaerts | krz_: it seems that letoh16() and htole32() are not needed (I just built and tested without them). plugin_get_buffer() is needed though |
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| 17:42:10 | krz_ | fixed |
| 17:45:21 | gevaerts | krz_: the next thing I'd really like to see go away is this system(rm -rf) thing. I don't like it, as you could easily trick it into doing dangerous things by setting $TMP or $TEMP to something creative |
| 17:45:51 | gevaerts | krz_: which files does it create there ? Just the wps, or also backdrop and others? |
| 17:46:35 | krz_ | gevaerts: wps, backdrop and images |
| 17:47:08 | gevaerts | So no subdirectories? |
| 17:47:41 | GodEater | "ln /tmp/wps /" ? |
| 17:47:47 | GodEater | that would be bad |
| 17:48:24 | krz_ | nope |
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| 17:49:20 | * | gevaerts experiments a bit |
| 17:49:22 | krz_ | GodEater: in system temp dir/(random wps dir) |
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| 17:53:14 | gevaerts | krz_: how about something like http://pastebin.ca/1188573 ? (not tested yet...) |
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| 17:55:50 | gevaerts | krz_: did you just import QPropertyEditor, or did you also make changes to it? |
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| 17:56:13 | krz_ | gevaerts: imported |
| 17:56:22 | gevaerts | ok. I won't look at it then |
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| 18:03:59 | gevaerts | krz_: I'd rename QMp3State to something like QTrackState. Not a major issue, but... |
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| 18:09:53 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts, krz_: I fixed some warnings in QPropertyEditor in my previous patches; not sure if it's in krz_'s one.. |
| 18:10:22 | gevaerts | krz_: also, as someone who listens to classical music, I wouldn't mind being able to set the composer tag (I use it in my wps) |
| 18:11:12 | krz_ | gevaerts: i think that not only composer could be added later |
| 18:11:46 | * | amiconn wonders why people are so keen to use desktop apps for managing their dap |
| 18:12:16 | amiconn | Imho it's a big advantage of ums-based daps that you don't need an app. |
| 18:12:25 | gevaerts | krz_: did you see my earlier line about the directory removal (http://pastebin.ca/1188573) ? |
| 18:12:43 | krz_ | gevaerts: yep, already fixed |
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| 18:17:20 | gevaerts | krz_: ok. Then I'm out of comments right now. Maybe upload a new patch, so we know where we are? |
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| 18:43:59 | Bagder | domonoky: we need your "final evaluation" in the gsoc app |
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| 18:49:21 | domonoky | Bagder: i know, deadline for this is september 1. i think.. |
| 18:49:38 | Bagder | domonoky: goodie, I'm just making sure you're aware! |
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| 19:05:28 | krz_ | domonoky,gevaerts: new patch ready |
| 19:07:26 | gevaerts | krz_: the libwps makefile is still broken |
| 19:08:35 | krz_ | gevaerts: hm, i don't have any errors |
| 19:08:43 | gevaerts | krz_: the last two lines are wrong : the CC line tries to compile libwps.c instead of proxy.c, and the cp line copies libproxy.so instead of libwps.so |
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| 19:09:41 | krz_ | gevaerts: ah, i tested on linux |
| 19:10:05 | bertrik | I get a Makefile error too on libwps.c |
| 19:10:06 | krz_ | gevaerts: so, if there are no errors except this - i 'll make a patch |
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| 19:11:00 | mot | hi guys, how do i play mpegs on rockbox? the extras section says it is already installed but i cant find it |
| 19:11:39 | bertrik | mot, just browse to the mpeg through 'files' and select it |
| 19:11:57 | mot | and it plays automatically |
| 19:12:27 | gevaerts | krz_: I just had a segfault. Give me a minute to look at it |
| 19:13:07 | krz_ | gevaerts: how to reproduse it? |
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| 19:13:56 | gevaerts | krz_: I'm trying to find out |
| 19:14:31 | bertrik | mot, IIUC some plugins are only available as a 'viewer'. They don't show up in the plugins menu, but are started when a file of a certain type is opened. You can also see them by calling up the context menu on a file and selecting "Open with..." |
| 19:15:31 | gevaerts | krz_: I can't make it crash again apparently. |
| 19:16:32 | mot | ok. if the mpegs on my ipod were loaded on with itunes, does rockbox not detect them, as they aren't under files. |
| 19:17:34 | gevaerts | krz_: One other thing though : if I start the program and immediately click on 'Update WPS', it creates a file called '.wps' in my working directory. It gets removed after quit, but it's not really good |
| 19:18:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | mot: No, Rockbox will not detect them. Rockbox also doesn't play back the movie codecs used by iTunes; it only plays MPEG1/2 video files. |
| 19:18:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 19:18:27 | bertrik | mot, I don't know anything about itunes, but if they are present on the file system, rockbox can show them |
| 19:18:37 | * | LambdaCalculus37 corrects himself a bit |
| 19:18:46 | bertrik | show the files I mean, not necessarily the movie content |
| 19:19:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | bertrik: Actually, I don't think it can. iTunes movies usually have an .mp4 or .m4v extension, which I don't think is seen in Rockbox. |
| 19:19:48 | * | LambdaCalculus37 looks through the manual to make sure about .mp4 files |
| 19:19:59 | J-23 | hmm |
| 19:20:13 | J-23 | why Rockbox supports MPEG video only? |
| 19:20:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | MP4 Audio only. |
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| 19:20:34 | gevaerts | J-23: because you haven't written another viewer yet? |
| 19:21:13 | mot | yeh the movies are .mp4 format and they are definitely not showing up |
| 19:22:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rockbox won't play them anyway. Read the wiki page I showed you to find out how to transcode them to MPEG2. |
| 19:22:29 | mot | ok thanks |
| 19:24:16 | krz_ | gevaerts: it is probably a bug |
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| 19:24:32 | gevaerts | krz_: can you reproduce it? |
| 19:24:58 | krz_ | gevaerts: that a file created in working dir? i'll try |
| 19:28:22 | domonoky | krz: an easy fix for this: check for a empty document in QWpsEditorWindow::slotUpdatePlainWps before calling drawer->wpsInit(..) .. |
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| 19:33:14 | krz_ | gevaerts, domonoky : fixed |
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| 19:33:32 | krz_ | if there is nothing else - i'll make a patch |
| 19:33:49 | gevaerts | Please do |
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| 19:36:19 | fml | Slasheri, kugel: ping |
| 19:36:56 | fml | Slasheri, kugel: a question about Tagcache.c: why is curpath_size declared as static long and not via a #define? |
| 19:39:32 | fml | pixelma: the problem you've had today at about 13:00 (crash in WPS) is known and is addressed in FS #8965. The patch is not dedicated to the problem though and fixes it as an "add-on". This applies to some tags that are normally used in a conditional but should be also usable stand alone (but are not). |
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| 19:44:21 | krz_ | gevaerts: done |
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| 19:47:23 | gevaerts | krz_: the copy is still wrong in the libwps makefile |
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| 19:48:15 | krz_ | gevaerts: are you sure? |
| 19:48:21 | krz_ | strange.. |
| 19:48:52 | gevaerts | krz_: it says @$(COPY) libproxy.so ../gui/bin/libwps.so, while the line above compiles to libwps.so |
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| 19:49:30 | crwl | JEA |
| 19:50:09 | krz_ | gevaerts: i can make one more patch |
| 19:51:03 | gevaerts | krz_: if this is the only change, don't bother. But I'd like to wait a bit before committing (one or two hours) to see if anyone else has comments |
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| 19:51:28 | krz_ | btw, i have to go for an hour or too |
| 19:51:52 | gevaerts | OK. Will you come back after that? |
| 19:52:07 | gevaerts | If so, I'll at least wait with committing until you're back |
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| 19:56:34 | krz_ | sure, i'll come |
| 19:56:51 | krz_ | but you can commit without me, if there are no errors |
| 19:58:22 | gevaerts | Well, waiting a bit doesn't hurt... |
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| 20:12:24 | Slasheri | fml: seems to be kind of variable that can be removed alltogether. Better to move the sizeof directly to the place where it's used |
| 20:13:47 | fml | Slasheri: maybe. But a variable isn't needed −− 100% |
| 20:14:15 | Slasheri | yep, i already removed that locally |
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| 20:14:58 | fml | Slasheri: to your discussion with kugel (yesterday): the fact that there are too few l's (small L) in the conversion string should not lead to a crash since that string is interpreted as a ring buffer. |
| 20:15:18 | fml | Slasheri: it's still better to have the correct number of them of course |
| 20:15:26 | gevaerts | linuxstb: can you have another look at krz's latest patch ? I'm out of comments, but maybe you're inspired :) |
| 20:15:35 | Slasheri | fml: the TAG_COUNT was not increased |
| 20:15:41 | fml | Slasheri: but since all are L, there should be no visible effect |
| 20:15:41 | Slasheri | that leads to problems for sure |
| 20:15:50 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: do you have more comments about krz's patch? |
| 20:15:53 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Sure... |
| 20:15:57 | fml | Slasheri: ah, ok |
| 20:16:02 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I was just going to take a look ;) |
| 20:16:29 | gevaerts | linuxstb: you need to change the last line of libwps/Makefile to say @$(COPY) libwps.so ../gui/bin/libwps.so |
| 20:16:39 | Slasheri | fml: but you are right about those l's.. in fact, maybe we could leave just one of them in place |
| 20:16:40 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I didn't think that worth it to upload another patch |
| 20:17:19 | fml | Slasheri: is it sure that all of them will always stay L? |
| 20:17:35 | Slasheri | fml: pretty sure for that one entry |
| 20:17:38 | Slasheri | not for the others |
| 20:18:01 | mcuelenaere | seems like it's still in rbutil/wpseditor.. |
| 20:18:20 | gevaerts | it is. I'll move it before committing |
| 20:18:24 | mcuelenaere | k |
| 20:18:26 | Slasheri | fml: originally i wrote that struct endianess conversion stuff but can't remember all the details |
| 20:18:31 | linuxstb | gevaerts: I don't really care about the wpseditor itself - I think it can be committed in any state. It's just the core changes I think are important to get perfect, especially as we're in feature freeze.... |
| 20:18:38 | fml | Slasheri: btw: I liked the proposal of kugel to define TAG_COUNT by placing it as an enum. Then name should be changed IMHO since it's not the total tag count but ... what would fit? (There are more enum names after that) |
| 20:18:58 | Slasheri | yep, that sounds good idea and should work |
| 20:19:31 | Slasheri | but no, no automatic generation of those endianess conversion tables |
| 20:19:47 | mcuelenaere | compiling libwps still gives warnings, or is this not bad? |
| 20:19:50 | * | linuxstb notices that krz isn't here... |
| 20:19:59 | fml | Slasheri: agreed (about no automatc generation) |
| 20:20:25 | mcuelenaere | and there are 'unused parameter' warnings in qwpsdrawer_static.cpp (same question) |
| 20:20:47 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I know. I don't see any non-preprocessor-guarded changes in the common code though |
| 20:21:12 | gevaerts | linuxstb: he left 20 minutes ago. He'll come back later |
| 20:21:51 | fml | Slasheri: tagcache and structec wouldn't suffer if they had much more comments :-) |
| 20:21:56 | linuxstb | gevaerts: There are possibly some places where .h files could just be included in all cases, not just #ifdef WPSEDITOR. Plus the "/*remove warnings*/" comment isn't needed. |
| 20:22:04 | mcuelenaere | I see the 'not-all-windows-are-closed'-bug is still present.. |
| 20:22:16 | linuxstb | But maybe it's safer to keep them within the #ifdef... |
| 20:22:51 | mcuelenaere | + how are you going to solve $LD_LIBRARY_PATH on Linux? |
| 20:22:59 | mcuelenaere | or is this an user problem? |
| 20:23:04 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: that's solved |
| 20:23:12 | linuxstb | gevaerts: And I see it's still in rbutil - I thought it was agreed to go in utils? |
| 20:23:13 | mcuelenaere | LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 20:23:29 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: gevaerts is going to move it when committing |
| 20:23:41 | linuxstb | mcuelenaere: OK |
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| 20:23:48 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: it uses the full path now when loading |
| 20:23:55 | linuxstb | And I guess we're allowing "C++ style comments" in a C++ app? ;) |
| 20:23:56 | mcuelenaere | it doesn't seem to on my machine |
| 20:24:05 | mcuelenaere | or I'm sorry |
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| 20:24:29 | mcuelenaere | I didn't even try, I just did 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=...' |
| 20:25:00 | mcuelenaere | ok you're right, it's solved |
| 20:25:16 | mcuelenaere | but the 'not-all-windows-are-closed when exiting' bug is still present |
| 20:25:20 | * | gevaerts takes notes |
| 20:25:27 | linuxstb | Does the patch include a "README" with build instructions? |
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| 20:25:48 | thebishop | is there any truly "open" PMP? |
| 20:25:57 | thebishop | ideally one with 40+Gb of storage |
| 20:26:01 | jashy | hi, need you help =) just replaced the battery of my h340, now it doesnt start anymore |
| 20:26:02 | gevaerts | thebishop: no |
| 20:26:09 | jashy | i get an ATA Error: -31 message |
| 20:26:10 | * | LambdaCalculus37 notices that the manuals for the 1G/2G and 3G iPods do not have proper descriptions of the controls for blind users |
| 20:26:22 | thebishop | gevaerts, ugh. |
| 20:26:25 | gevaerts | linuxstb: no. I'll add that to my notes |
| 20:26:30 | jashy | first thought i screwed up the harddisk, but it works in bootloader usb mode |
| 20:26:39 | thebishop | gevaerts, any on the horizon? |
| 20:26:51 | gevaerts | thebishop: not that I know of |
| 20:26:51 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: and 'Update WPS' works when no WPS is loaded yet (well it gives error messages) |
| 20:27:01 | jashy | sometimes i also get ATA Error: -32 |
| 20:27:05 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: you can make a new one from scratch |
| 20:27:06 | linuxstb | thebishop: What do you mean by "open"? Rockbox has made a lot of devices open, especially where the chips have freely available documentation. |
| 20:27:30 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: not sure where it will get images though |
| 20:27:39 | mcuelenaere | ah ok |
| 20:27:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | jashy: Did you reconnect the hard drive connector properly? |
| 20:27:59 | jashy | i hope so |
| 20:28:01 | * | mcuelenaere isn't familiar enough with WPS tags to test this feature |
| 20:28:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | Open it again and make sure. |
| 20:28:07 | jashy | but im not quite sure |
| 20:28:08 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Maybe a "TODO" file would be useful as well... |
| 20:28:14 | jashy | retried about 10 times now |
| 20:28:21 | jashy | i wonder that hd works in usb mode... |
| 20:28:59 | gevaerts | jashy: usb mode uses different electronics |
| 20:29:12 | mcuelenaere | there are still some functionality bugs, but these will be fixed in future releases |
| 20:29:13 | jashy | ah |
| 20:29:18 | thebishop | linuxstb, i'm thinking of the PMP equivalent to OpenMoko: an open platform for application development and where the system can be upgraded by the users |
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| 20:29:47 | jashy | i can also say it worked well until i put everything together and closed the case |
| 20:30:00 | jashy | is there anythink i can look for at the connectors? |
| 20:31:09 | mcuelenaere | jashy: just to not confuse you, my last sentence was for gevaerts |
| 20:31:26 | jashy | mcuelenaere: got it ;) |
| 20:31:35 | mcuelenaere | k :) |
| 20:32:01 | * | jashy is near to crying |
| 20:32:43 | jashy | damn, my h340 was dead for over half a year, i was so happy to see it running with the new battery, and now this |
| 20:33:25 | jashy | what does ata error -31/-32 mean? |
| 20:36:14 | jashy | whats else strange, when i move the player while hes showing the error screen it turns off |
| 20:36:54 | PaulJam | jashy: tere is a recent forum thread describing similar problems: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18348.0 |
| 20:37:00 | gevaerts | In that case open it and check all connectord |
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| 20:37:34 | jashy | its open |
| 20:37:52 | jashy | im dont realy know what to look for, but in my eyes everything looks fine |
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| 20:39:36 | jashy | below the pins is a part i dont realy know, looks like a mat |
| 20:39:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's just the hard drive bumper. |
| 20:40:02 | jashy | 15x3mm and about 2mm high |
| 20:41:24 | jashy | the connector pins are on a elastic plastic *missing words* |
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| 20:41:59 | jashy | might the connections inside that *missing word* brake if beeing bent to much? |
| 20:43:48 | gevaerts | I expect you mean "ribbon cable" or something like that. Is it the one between the disk and the rest of the player? |
| 20:44:14 | jashy | jeah |
| 20:44:46 | gevaerts | In that case it must be ok if the usb mode works |
| 20:45:15 | jashy | so the cable as well as the disk are ok |
| 20:45:23 | jashy | which makes the problem worse :( |
| 20:45:44 | gevaerts | have you looked at the forum thread that PaulJam pointed to? |
| 20:46:20 | jashy | jeah |
| 20:46:24 | jashy | still reading crosslinks |
| 20:48:47 | jashy | original fw works but doesnt show any songs/files |
| 20:48:55 | PaulJam | jashy: here someone suggests that formatting the HD might fix it: http://www.misticriver.net/forums/rockbox-h1xx-series/45667-ata-error-32-sound-comparison-questions.html |
| 20:49:59 | jashy | ill try |
| 20:50:01 | jashy | as fat32? |
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| 20:52:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | FAT32, yes. |
| 20:52:12 | PaulJam | yes, FAT32. (but you'll need an extra tool like swissknife in order to format the 40 GB drive. windows only allows FAT32 partitions up to 32 GiB) |
| 20:52:39 | jashy | sry |
| 20:52:44 | jashy | need to correct myself |
| 20:52:47 | jashy | i just have 20gb |
| 20:52:50 | jashy | lol |
| 20:53:05 | jashy | thought i had more space, as i said, long time i used it... |
| 20:53:44 | jashy | wonder how formatting could help, we'll see |
| 20:55:20 | jashy | this will take some minutes |
| 20:55:23 | jashy | any further ideas? |
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| 20:56:08 | PaulJam | jashy: here is another thread, that suggests that the problem can happen when you put the long screws of the casing into the wrong positions. |
| 20:56:12 | PaulJam | http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h3xx-series-320-340/44643-h340-ata-error-32-a.html |
| 20:56:26 | jashy | i did it |
| 20:56:41 | PaulJam | i think the longer screws go to the bottom holes. |
| 20:56:44 | jashy | but stopped as they didnt go in any more |
| 20:56:47 | jashy | oh |
| 20:56:48 | jashy | damn |
| 20:56:58 | jashy | they "fitted" into the sides :/ |
| 20:58:23 | jashy | ill check the board in that areas next |
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| 20:58:36 | PaulJam | i have my h300 here, so if you want i coul check which screws belong to where. |
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| 20:59:18 | jashy | well mine is open |
| 20:59:28 | jashy | at the bottom theres enough space for the long ones |
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| 21:00:02 | jashy | but the sides, i cant realy see it because its overlayed by the hd, but it looks bad :( |
| 21:00:19 | jashy | bad in the sense of "no space", not i see a crippled boar |
| 21:00:19 | jashy | d |
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| 21:09:12 | jashy | about 80% |
| 21:09:27 | jashy | now i know why its called "to screw something up" |
| 21:09:38 | gevaerts | jashy: does it work if you just remove the screws? |
| 21:09:44 | jashy | no |
| 21:09:48 | jashy | they are removed |
| 21:17:34 | jashy | format didnt help |
| 21:18:30 | jashy | the screws screwed up |
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| 21:19:03 | jashy | the board is damaged a bit |
| 21:19:11 | jashy | but there arent any chips near the area |
| 21:21:06 | jashy | or might there be any conductors/wires inside the board? |
| 21:21:19 | gevaerts | could be |
| 21:22:56 | amiconn | rasher: So, what do you think we should do with the fonts which aren't compatible with current rockbox (i.e. aren't either ISO10646-1 or ISO8859-1) |
| 21:23:33 | rasher | amiconn: Converting them seems the best option. Can either fontforge or gbdfed help us with this? |
| 21:24:00 | amiconn | I tested the win_crox* (Win-1251) ones and jackash-16 (DOS-850). Both show wrong glyphs for e.g. german umlauts as I expected |
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| 21:25:15 | amiconn | I expected 00-starmap_r400-8 to work, but there are no umlauts at all |
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| 21:25:48 | rasher | I guess a script to map a bdf font from one character set into unicode wouldn't be that hard, if a file like this exists for the character set: ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/PC/CP850.TXT |
| 21:25:53 | amiconn | (Win-1252 is a superset of ISO8859-1 that has glyphs defined for 0x80..0x9f, which are control chars in ISO8859-1) |
| 21:26:06 | rasher | amiconn: Maybe the font was always broken? |
| 21:26:24 | rasher | amiconn: rasher.dk/rockbox/fontstats/Rockbox%20fonts/00-Starmap_r400-8.png">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fontstats/Rockbox%20fonts/00-Starmap_r400-8.png |
| 21:26:31 | rasher | That solves that. |
| 21:26:40 | rasher | Or explains it, at least. |
| 21:28:31 | * | amiconn thinks the incompatible fonts we want to keep need to be converted by hand |
| 21:28:48 | amiconn | Or at least checked after auto-conversion |
| 21:31:25 | rasher | Thankfully they're all pretty small |
| 21:32:16 | jashy | i managed to get an insight to the damaged places |
| 21:32:20 | jashy | but there realy is nothing |
| 21:32:26 | jashy | expect green plastic |
| 21:33:39 | jashy | wow |
| 21:33:44 | jashy | now i have another problem |
| 21:33:51 | jashy | disconnected battery for safety |
| 21:34:02 | jashy | and now dunno how to connect it, where goes black where red |
| 21:34:31 | krz | gevaerts: any new remarks? |
| 21:34:54 | gevaerts | krz: a few, yes |
| 21:34:54 | jashy | problem solved, red goes up |
| 21:35:17 | krz | gevaerts: what are they? |
| 21:36:08 | gevaerts | krz: you added some comments that say "/*remove warnings*/". Those aren't very useful, so they'd better go |
| 21:37:01 | gevaerts | krz: then, could you add a basic README file telling people how to build it, and what you need? (basically, you need QT4 + xxx, and you need to run qmake and make, and the binary ends up in...) |
| 21:37:19 | gevaerts | krz: also, maybe add a TODO file with what's missing |
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| 21:37:42 | gevaerts | krz: then, if you're doing lots of things anyway, move it to util/ instead of rbutil/ |
| 21:38:32 | krz | gevaerts: i've never built whole wpseditor in linux(it's about readme) |
| 21:38:38 | gevaerts | krz: and last but not least : can you have another look at the bug that mcuelenaere spotted that if you close the main window when there is still another window open, the application doesn't exit? |
| 21:38:51 | gevaerts | krz: just do windows requirements and instructions then |
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| 21:39:25 | krz | gevaerts: concerning that bug, i suitable can't find solution yet |
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| 21:39:46 | krz | *i can't find suitable solution |
| 21:39:51 | mcuelenaere | krz: I can do the linux readme |
| 21:40:07 | krz | mcuelenaere: thanks |
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| 21:41:09 | krz | gevaerts: except for making this sliders modal, but it is not what we want |
| 21:41:30 | jashy | instead of solving my hdd problem i think i found one more |
| 21:41:52 | jashy | do you know where in the internet i can get a highres image of the irivers board? |
| 21:42:06 | gevaerts | krz: can't you intercept the window close event directly, and then quit? |
| 21:42:12 | mcuelenaere | krz: basic instructions: http://pastebin.com/d2fbeb8d8 |
| 21:44:18 | krz | gevaerts: actually i failed. if someone points why closeEvent isn't called, or why destructor isn't called - we can also solve problem of deleting temp wps on quit |
| 21:45:03 | gevaerts | krz: I don't know much about Qt. domonoky or bluebrother may know |
| 21:45:06 | jashy | http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdwq5.jpg |
| 21:45:20 | jashy | do you know whats the task of the marked chip is? |
| 21:46:25 | domonoky | krz: why not make them modal ? |
| 21:46:44 | gevaerts | jashy: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverHardwareComponents may help |
| 21:48:07 | gevaerts | domonoky: I'd prefer to see those non-modal, but it would fix the bug... |
| 21:48:30 | amiconn | jashy, gevaerts: For H3x0, I bet you want this one: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents |
| 21:48:34 | krz | domonoky: surely i can, but i'd like to left them non-modal |
| 21:48:50 | gevaerts | You want to be able to tweak the wps a bit, and then wiggle the slider again, tweak the wps again,... |
| 21:49:05 | * | gevaerts had forgotten that it was H300... |
| 21:49:13 | domonoky | krz, you should give the slider a Qobject as parent... |
| 21:49:20 | amiconn | It's a DC-DC converter |
| 21:50:08 | domonoky | at the moment you leak those sliders, as you create the with new, but never delete them... and without Qobject as parent Qt wont delete it for you.. |
| 21:50:33 | domonoky | i dont know if this fixes the problem, but it should be changed.. |
| 21:51:49 | krz | domonoky: i'll try, thanks |
| 21:52:16 | jashy | according my 2nd problem: i think its a BQ24022 Li-Ion charger |
| 21:52:19 | domonoky | so contructor of slider should be "Slider(Qobject* parent,...)" in the definition, and in the implementation Slider(QObject* parent, ... ) :QObject(parent) { ... code .. } |
| 21:53:04 | jashy | and now i know why my old battery was fine for a long time but then got destroyed in a period of some days, that charger-chip has a white hole on my board... |
| 21:53:35 | jashy | looks like there isnt much to do know |
| 21:53:38 | jashy | its over :( |
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| 21:54:18 | domonoky | krz: the same for qwpsdrawer.cpp/h |
| 21:54:37 | krz | domonoky: may be better Slider(QObject* parent, ... ): QWidget(parent)? |
| 21:55:08 | domonoky | oh, yes... its a widget... :-) |
| 21:55:25 | gevaerts | jashy: you could try finding a replacement board, or a player with broken screen or something lik that |
| 21:56:18 | domonoky | the maybe even better: Slider(Qwidget* parent..):QWidget(parent) .. |
| 21:56:31 | domonoky | and the same for QWpsDrawer.. |
| 21:56:50 | jashy | think it would be easier to change the screen then finding the hd problem and replacing the smd chip :D |
| 21:58:03 | gevaerts | I would just consider that board broken, and maybe try to find a new board |
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| 21:59:18 | jashy | found a h340 for 5euros |
| 21:59:29 | massiveH | that's a good deal... |
| 21:59:30 | jashy | partly defect: |
| 21:59:39 | jashy | with the same problem that i have :D |
| 21:59:45 | massiveH | problem being? |
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| 22:00:04 | jashy | the hd works with usb but not with the rockbox/original fw |
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| 22:00:51 | jashy | well, the display of mine is ok, think ill keep it, who knows if i wont need it some days |
| 22:01:04 | krz | domonoky: with setting parent - sliders are placed on QWpsDrawer |
| 22:01:14 | vitja | linuxstb, have you seen new patch for iaudio7? |
| 22:01:27 | domonoky | yes, is this not wanted ? |
| 22:01:55 | jashy | well, gonna try to resell my new battery... |
| 22:02:13 | krz | domonoky: nope, layout is broken |
| 22:02:44 | domonoky | you mean its not an extra window anymore ? |
| 22:02:59 | krz | domonoky: yes, i mean this |
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| 22:03:19 | domonoky | perhaps you should choose QDialog as parent instead of QWidget.. |
| 22:05:23 | domonoky | or set the Qt::WindowFlags for this Widget to QtDialog... |
| 22:07:53 | krz | domonoky: bug solved =) |
| 22:07:59 | jashy | however, thank you for your support gevaerts |
| 22:08:09 | domonoky | good.. :-) |
| 22:08:38 | krz | domonoky: so readme and todo left, right? |
| 22:08:44 | jashy | will rockbox ever work on the ipod classic series? |
| 22:09:35 | domonoky | krz: i think so.. |
| 22:10:56 | gevaerts | jashy: in my opinion, unlikely |
| 22:11:41 | krz | mcuelenaere: btw, on linux wpseditord is built or wpseditor? |
| 22:12:20 | mcuelenaere | krz: wpseditord |
| 22:12:26 | mcuelenaere | but that's probably a debug build |
| 22:12:42 | mcuelenaere | not sure why it's build standardly as debug though |
| 22:13:52 | jashy | ok ill leave now, thank you all for the work on rockbox, the greatest open source project i know (love it more than linux, not that huge :D)999999999999999999 |
| 22:13:57 | jashy | go on |
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| 22:14:03 | krz | mcuelenaere: jup, i also think so |
| 22:14:40 | krz | btw, has anyone built wpseditor on Visual Studio(tm)? :) |
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| 22:15:34 | krz | i can make readme for mingw users only |
| 22:20:43 | gevaerts | krz: in that case, mingw is a requirement :) |
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| 22:21:14 | MXIIA | Can I ask a question about IpodManualRestore? |
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| 22:23:05 | Lakis | 8-) |
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| 22:24:57 | gevaerts | MXIIA: please don't ask to ask |
| 22:25:28 | MXIIA | Ok... I am trying to reinstall my Apple Firmware before I install Rockbox |
| 22:25:30 | MXIIA | I get this error |
| 22:25:31 | MXIIA | <CatgirlSiv> have you seen the ?act=sexy XDDDDDDDDDD |
| 22:25:36 | MXIIA | sry wrong paste |
| 22:25:42 | MXIIA | http://pastebin.com/m3fe4639f |
| 22:26:22 | Kopfgeldjaeger | lol |
| 22:26:52 | MXIIA | disregard the ?act=sexy |
| 22:26:56 | Kopfgeldjaeger | yeah |
| 22:27:10 | Kopfgeldjaeger | and to come back to your problems... |
| 22:27:13 | MXIIA | yea |
| 22:27:22 | Kopfgeldjaeger | ... /dev/sdf is probably still mounted |
| 22:27:28 | MXIIA | if you want to know about the ?act=sexy PM me |
| 22:27:33 | Kopfgeldjaeger | well, one of its partitions |
| 22:27:38 | Kopfgeldjaeger | no, thanks ;) |
| 22:27:45 | gevaerts | MXIIA: please stop that. This is an on-topic channel |
| 22:28:00 | gevaerts | One wrong paste is ok, but don't go on about it |
| 22:28:20 | gevaerts | MXIIA: then read the instructions again, especially step 1 |
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| 22:28:55 | Kopfgeldjaeger | and "dd: opening `mbr-nano4gb.bin': No such file or directory" is quite specific |
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| 22:32:07 | mcuelenaere | \o/ I seem to be able to read, locate (and soon write) to a virtual FAT FS file on the Creative File System :) |
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| 22:32:55 | * | gevaerts thinks it will soon be time to reorganise this ata_* layer a bit |
| 22:33:59 | MXIIA | I am pretty sure that the iPod is mounted to sdf I did "dmesg" and that came up |
| 22:34:29 | MXIIA | http://paste.ubuntu.com/41673/ |
| 22:34:43 | gevaerts | MXIIA: (1) you need to download a file and (2) it shouldn't be mounted at all |
| 22:35:36 | MXIIA | Ok, then 2 is my problem, I have to unmount it, thanks :p |
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| 22:46:20 | krz | gevaerts: new patch uploaded |
| 22:47:06 | krz | gevaerts: waa, forgot to rename libproxy.so |
| 22:47:16 | gevaerts | krz: I'll do that one |
| 22:49:41 | * | gevaerts test-compiles |
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| 22:56:08 | gevaerts | So, any more comments about wpseditor before I commit? |
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| 22:56:26 | * | gevaerts has one actually, or rather a question |
| 22:56:33 | krz | yes |
| 22:56:56 | krz | gevaerts: what is it? |
| 22:57:03 | gevaerts | Do authors of standalone utilities like this one get into CREDITS, or does the utility get its own CREDITS file ? |
| 22:57:14 | gevaerts | krz: basically, where do I put your name :) |
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| 22:58:51 | gevaerts | krz: if I understand correctly, your code also needs to be on some google server for them to accept all this. Is that done? |
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| 23:00:20 | krz | it is in code.google.com/wpseditor |
| 23:00:35 | gevaerts | ok. |
| 23:00:36 | domonoky | gevaerts: googles time line says, they can begin submitting to google after sepember 3. |
| 23:01:49 | domonoky | krz should look in the gsoc student docs from google on how todo it.. |
| 23:03:50 | domonoky | gevaerts: i think you should put him in the main CREDITS file.. but what do others think ? |
| 23:04:29 | gevaerts | domonoky: I think that's best. "People that have contributed to the project, one way or another" clearly includes this sort of work |
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| 23:05:20 | * | gevaerts now has done the svn add thing, the svn pset thing, the CREDITS thing and the compile test. Anything else? |
| 23:05:54 | Bagder | yes the dance thing! |
| 23:05:59 | Bagder | :-P |
| 23:06:08 | XavierGr | roflmao good one! |
| 23:06:25 | XavierGr | GoldenQuote candidate I say :P |
| 23:06:48 | gevaerts | Do we close FS #9327, or do we keep that one for further patches? |
| 23:07:04 | Bagder | I think close it |
| 23:07:18 | gevaerts | ok |
| 23:07:20 | krz | gevaerts: i think we can keep |
| 23:07:28 | Bagder | it also kind of opens it up for others to also submit patches for that code |
| 23:07:38 | krz | where will i put patches? :) |
| 23:07:53 | domonoky | krz in a new tracker entry.. :-) |
| 23:08:36 | * | gevaerts types :wq |
| 23:08:44 | domonoky | i think closing the task is good, so its clear that code is commited.. |
| 23:09:14 | gevaerts | Now let's hope that http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi agrees with our reviews :) |
| 23:10:49 | * | domonoky gives beer to gevaerts :-) |
| 23:10:58 | * | gevaerts drinks beer and asks for more |
| 23:11:12 | * | domonoky gives more beers.. |
| 23:11:26 | * | gevaerts gives one of them to krz |
| 23:11:34 | * | gevaerts then drinks the others |
| 23:11:54 | domonoky | krz can pay those beers, he just earned 2k $ :-) |
| 23:12:16 | gevaerts | :) |
| 23:12:18 | * | krz wave to everyone |
| 23:12:23 | Bagder | krz: congratulations on getting your code committed! |
| 23:12:40 | * | krz gives beer to everyone :D |
| 23:12:51 | * | gevaerts drinks more beer and falls over |
| 23:12:51 | krz | Bagder: thanks! |
| 23:16:54 | | Quit ompaul (Client Quit) |
| 23:17:17 | * | gevaerts looks at the build server |
| 23:18:13 | domonoky | all green... |
| 23:18:24 | * | domonoky goes to fill in the final evaluation.. |
| 23:19:42 | gevaerts | Also zero delta, so the code really is the same :) |
| 23:19:47 | Bagder | "it's all green mr Google" |
| 23:20:16 | | Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:20:30 | krz | btw, how are other gsoc projects? |
| 23:21:38 | Nico_P | krz and domonoky: congratulations! |
| 23:24:24 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:24:34 | krz | Nico_P: thanks! |
| 23:25:27 | Nico_P | krz: it's compiled as the H10 5GB right? |
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| 23:25:56 | krz | yes |
| 23:27:49 | * | domonoky clicked "yes" in the google final evaluation and submitted it... so its now final.. congrats to krz :-) |
| 23:27:59 | gevaerts | \o/ |
| 23:28:21 | gevaerts | congratulations :) |
| 23:29:42 | domonoky | so lets hope krz continues his work now that his gsoc project finnished.. |
| 23:30:04 | gevaerts | Well, he made a TODO file :) |
| 23:30:19 | krz | domonoky: sure, there is a TODO |
| 23:30:21 | krz | eys =) |
| 23:30:26 | krz | *yes |
| 23:31:49 | domonoky | :-) |
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| 23:32:09 | bertrik | I see a different background every time I press the update WPS button, looks like image data but with incorrect width |
| 23:32:43 | mcuelenaere | krz: congrats :) |
| 23:34:14 | krz | mcuelenaere: thanks! without your help, we wouldn't have linux build :) |
| 23:34:28 | mcuelenaere | np :) |
| 23:36:03 | krz | bertrik: for what target do you use wps? |
| 23:38:36 | * | bertrik is clueless |
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| 23:39:04 | bertrik | target? what I did was run it and open the 128x128 cabbiev2 theme wps file |
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| 23:39:57 | krz | bertrik: can you describe whats happening a bit more? |
| 23:41:46 | bertrik | maybe I should post a screenshot somewhere |
| 23:42:03 | krz | bertrik: may be its better |
| 23:48:22 | bertrik | krz, this is what I see http://imagebin.ca/view/STzFplx.html |
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| 23:50:23 | krz | hm |
| 23:51:31 | krz | is this error repeatable with other wps's? |
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| 23:53:32 | bertrik | yes it happens with other wps's too, like rockboxed 128x128x16 |
| 23:57:00 | krz | bertrik: nothing fails in the log, yes? what version of Qt do you have? |
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| 23:57:28 | gevaerts | Here it segfaults on rockboxed... |
| 23:57:41 | * | gevaerts builds a debug build |
| 23:57:59 | bertrik | qmake −−version says version 2.01a, Using Qt version 4.3.4 |
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