| 00:00:34 | saratoga | i'm having a weird issue |
| 00:02:19 | saratoga | I've defined something in config.h but it doesn't appear to be defined later buffer.c |
| 00:05:49 | gevaerts | Maybe between wrong #ifdefs? |
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| 00:08:46 | saratoga | no its definately getting to it, it just takes the else block instead of the if |
| 00:08:53 | saratoga | i wonder if buffering.c doesn't include config.h |
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| 00:12:00 | saratoga | and apparently it does not |
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| 00:31:36 | linuxstb | saratoga: I'm here now... |
| 00:36:03 | saratoga | linuxstb: Bagder was asking about my evaluation for the GSOC project, maybe you have some feedback on that? |
| 00:36:58 | saratoga | you probably looked at the code more then anyone else |
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| 00:40:29 | kugel | reacocard: May I take some of your database parser code? |
| 00:40:45 | kugel | You didn't specifically license it, so I ask |
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| 00:41:23 | reacocard | kugel: feel free. if I add a license at some point itll be some variant of the GPL, so treat it as such |
| 00:41:46 | kugel | thanks |
| 00:42:41 | domonoky | reacocard: if we ever want to use your database code in some python-qt-rbutil plugin, it should be unter gpl v2 or later.. :-) |
| 00:42:51 | * | gevaerts wouldn't recommend a variant of the GPL if the GPL will do |
| 00:43:26 | kugel | gevaerts: he was probably saying variant as in version |
| 00:43:41 | bluebrother | well, for an rbutil plugin I'd prefer to use the already existing database code from the main source |
| 00:43:59 | bluebrother | that way someone would also try to keep those up to date ;-) |
| 00:44:39 | kugel | Slasheri: Why is the deleting so slow=? |
| 00:45:23 | domonoky | sure, using rockboxs c database code would be better, but when we have working python code, and no working C version, i take what works.. :-) |
| 00:46:41 | reacocard | domonoky: noted, thats fine by me |
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| 00:50:42 | reacocard | bluebrother: note that im going to be using this python code myself.... so I have a vested interest in keeping it working :) |
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| 01:03:10 | Earworm | hey folks, anyone familiar with the gigabeat hardware? I cracked my screen and I got a new one, but one of the connector cables is weird and I don't know how to plug it |
| 01:03:43 | toffe82 | Earworm: which one the small one ? |
| 01:03:58 | Earworm | I got the f10 |
| 01:04:06 | Earworm | ohhh! |
| 01:04:08 | Earworm | yes |
| 01:04:12 | Earworm | the tiny connector |
| 01:04:31 | toffe82 | ther is a lock on the connector |
| 01:04:42 | Earworm | the one on board? |
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| 01:05:13 | toffe82 | yes on the top right side |
| 01:06:19 | Earworm | toffe82: if I face my gigabeat towards me, the cable I can't connect should go on the left side |
| 01:06:35 | Earworm | the other one clicks in nicely in the slot |
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| 01:06:42 | toffe82 | the big one ? |
| 01:06:50 | Earworm | the big one is fine |
| 01:06:59 | Earworm | hold on, maybe I can take a picture of it |
| 01:07:05 | toffe82 | just plug it in the conector of the board |
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| 01:07:12 | toffe82 | the is only 2 |
| 01:07:43 | Earworm | yes but the small one is loose |
| 01:07:48 | Earworm | it doesn't just click in |
| 01:07:53 | Earworm | is that normal? |
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| 01:09:10 | toffe82 | for the small one you have to lift the lock , insert the cable and lock it |
| 01:09:32 | Earworm | how do I lift it? |
| 01:10:15 | Earworm | just pull up on it? or is there a latch or button or something? |
| 01:11:24 | toffe82 | you lift it from the opposite side of the cable |
| 01:11:38 | toffe82 | just 90 degrees, no more |
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| 01:13:04 | Earworm | toffe82: i think I know what you're saying |
| 01:13:25 | Earworm | aaha! |
| 01:13:30 | Earworm | it popped out! nice |
| 01:14:34 | domonoky | rockbox center |
| 01:14:38 | domonoky | ups |
| 01:14:44 | domonoky | wrong channel |
| 01:14:53 | toffe82 | push the cable to the maximum and lock it |
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| 01:25:03 | Earworm | hey toffe82 that worked! thanks a lot dude! |
| 01:25:28 | toffe82 | :) |
| 01:25:55 | Earworm | one more thing, as I was working on this my batt. switch loosened up and fell off |
| 01:26:07 | Earworm | is it always loose or did I do something to it |
| 01:26:09 | Earworm | ? |
| 01:27:57 | Earworm | it wont matter after i put the little plastic over it but just in case |
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| 01:38:19 | toffe82 | itselt is loose ?Earworm: the switch |
| 01:38:23 | toffe82 | :) |
| 01:38:40 | toffe82 | Earworm: the switch itself is loose ? |
| 01:39:00 | Earworm | yes |
| 01:39:51 | toffe82 | never had the problem, only the small plastic cap is loose, not the switch |
| 01:39:51 | Earworm | i mean it falls off if the little plastic part isn't covering it |
| 01:40:06 | Earworm | weird... |
| 01:40:19 | toffe82 | ? |
| 01:40:51 | Earworm | hmmm? |
| 01:40:55 | toffe82 | i never had a problem with the swithc |
| 01:41:21 | toffe82 | you have a picture ? |
| 01:41:23 | Earworm | i see, it shouldn't be a problem I think |
| 01:45:25 | Earworm | if it is, of course I'll be back at my favorite place #rockbox :) |
| 01:45:44 | Earworm | by the way, did the firmware got flashed yet for gigabeat? |
| 01:46:46 | toffe82 | I think there was some test but it is not done |
| 01:47:29 | Earworm | when was that test done? |
| 01:47:35 | Earworm | roughly |
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| 01:57:40 | toffe82 | 3 or 4 months ago,m I think it is on the wiki |
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| 01:59:34 | Earworm | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort ??? |
| 01:59:38 | Earworm | I don't see anything there |
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| 04:04:40 | Unhelpful | so, if i can see a few of the places where the S charging code might get into the state where it's reporting battery charge wrongly, what'd be the best way to see what's "really" happening. ideally, i'd like to be able to log the order in which some events are happening, but afaict DEBUGF won't really help me w/ this. |
| 04:06:19 | JdGordon|zzz | you need to make a logf build |
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| 04:06:46 | JdGordon | iirc you then view the log in the debug menu |
| 04:07:11 | Unhelpful | i was meaning to ask how i see it. so there's a ringbuffer, or something? |
| 04:09:06 | JdGordon | dunno |
| 04:10:41 | Unhelpful | i had gotten the impression that logf was some sort of debug-serial-output-over-usb, or such. don't know from where. a log that's in a file, or in memory and viewable or saveable in rockbox UI, is pretty much *exactly* what i was looking for |
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| 04:17:00 | Unhelpful | the charging code is entering an "Error" state on unplug. the most obvious place i can see is that attempts to read the charging current will set this state - perhaps that is happening after actual unplug but before the unplug event fires |
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| 04:55:28 | Unhelpful | hrm, i don't like that the object file doesn't refer to any logf symbol, and that strings doesn't have any of the debug texts i added. :/ |
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| 05:10:37 | Unhelpful | actually calling logf inside powermgmt-imx31.c causes a data abort 0004e594. is logf unsafe in certain contexts, or broken on beast, or something else? |
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| 05:34:42 | Unhelpful | jhMikeS: i'm trying to debug an error state in the debug->battery display after unplugging w/ your gigs-charging patch. it *looks* like after unplug, charging_algorithm_small_step is called w/ charger_input_state still set to CHARGER, and charger_current_update_ave and adjust_charger_current both fail due, i think, to being unable to read a valid charge current. if you can take a look, or want me to look for/provide more i |
| 05:34:42 | Unhelpful | nfo, please let me know. |
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| 06:19:07 | moyix | is there any code started for Sigmatel STMP 3500 based devices, eg the Mobiblu DAH-1500? a pointer to an SVN tree would be great... |
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| 09:15:45 | * | linuxstb attempts to try the wpseditor and notices it won't show ".rockbox" in the "open wps" dialog (on Linux) |
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| 10:11:23 | HM4A1 | hey anyone there? |
| 10:12:05 | HM4A1 | .. |
| 10:12:24 | scorche|sh | patience... |
| 10:12:42 | HM4A1 | hey |
| 10:12:58 | HM4A1 | can u give technical help? |
| 10:13:29 | scorche|sh | please have a look at the guidelines linked in the topic...specifically to the "dont ask to ask" part |
| 10:14:13 | HM4A1 | riighhhttt |
| 10:14:17 | HM4A1 | whatever then |
| 10:14:19 | HM4A1 | err |
| 10:14:34 | HM4A1 | Is it possible to load Rockbox on MP4 models that arent listed? |
| 10:15:30 | scorche|sh | we list specific models for a reason... |
| 10:15:46 | HM4A1 | ok |
| 10:16:18 | scorche|sh | there may be specific ports in progress, but those liested on the front page are the ones that "work" |
| 10:16:42 | HM4A1 | ohk |
| 10:17:07 | HM4A1 | would installing a port thats not specific to your mp4 create a bad effect if it didnt work? |
| 10:17:08 | HM4A1 | as in |
| 10:17:12 | HM4A1 | would it fuck it? |
| 10:17:47 | scorche|sh | and how would you propose "installing" it? |
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| 10:18:20 | HM4A1 | err i wouldnt know I havnt had the chance to check it out yet |
| 10:18:31 | HM4A1 | how is it installed? |
| 10:18:48 | scorche|sh | it is a different process depending on which target |
| 10:18:54 | HM4A1 | ah right |
| 10:18:59 | HM4A1 | but |
| 10:19:04 | HM4A1 | say i managed to let it run |
| 10:19:06 | HM4A1 | actuall |
| 10:19:08 | HM4A1 | y |
| 10:19:19 | linuxstb | HM4A1: These are the steps you need to install Rockbox on a new device - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 10:19:21 | HM4A1 | would the installer run if it wasnt going to run? if it was an exe say.. |
| 10:19:22 | scorche|sh | what is "it"? |
| 10:19:23 | HM4A1 | ohk |
| 10:21:18 | HM4A1 | sall right dw |
| 10:21:31 | HM4A1 | i think i will just give it a miss and use the actual firmware |
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| 10:21:56 | HM4A1 | cya budy |
| 10:21:59 | HM4A1 | thanks for the help |
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| 10:55:32 | webguest18 | hi i need some help |
| 10:55:56 | webguest18 | can anyone help me? |
| 10:57:26 | linuxstb | Just ask |
| 10:58:28 | webguest18 | umm im having some problems with the bootloader |
| 10:58:40 | webguest18 | its saying my ipod is not plugged in when it is |
| 10:58:52 | webguest18 | and yes i have checked disc thing |
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| 11:00:04 | linuxstb | Which ipod do you have? |
| 11:01:31 | webguest18 | ermm idk its a ipod nano |
| 11:01:40 | webguest18 | its one of thoughs small ones |
| 11:01:43 | webguest18 | 4gb |
| 11:02:25 | linuxstb | Does it play video? |
| 11:02:35 | webguest18 | ermm it can |
| 11:02:38 | webguest18 | i've gt about |
| 11:02:40 | webguest18 | 7 movies on there |
| 11:02:52 | linuxstb | Then its a so-called "3rd generation Nano", and Rockbox doesn' |
| 11:02:56 | linuxstb | t work on it |
| 11:04:33 | webguest18 | dam |
| 11:05:25 | webguest18 | thats stinks |
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| 12:07:48 | * | bertrik wonders why rockbox splashes "deleting..." after it has already said "deleted" |
| 12:07:50 | krz | hi all! multitarget wpseditor patch is ready: fs9344 |
| 12:10:31 | ripperoO | hi. Is there any plugin for book reading? I need bookmark support, but have'nt found it in default text viewer. |
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| 12:25:36 | bertrik | krz, I'm trying it out, but I don't see anything under the Target menu, just an empty list it seems |
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| 13:10:22 | gevaerts | bertrik: try running buildall.sh in libwps and copying all .so files over to gui/bin |
| 13:11:12 | krz | gevaerts: hi, it's about new patch? |
| 13:11:25 | gevaerts | krz: yes |
| 13:11:47 | * | gevaerts wonders why both e200 and e200r variants of checkwps are needed |
| 13:13:11 | gevaerts | As far as I understand these only differ in which OF they run and what name it says on the back |
| 13:13:42 | krz | gevaerts: so, we can exculde it from targets.txt |
| 13:14:40 | gevaerts | krz: we can. I'm just wondering why linuxstb added it in the first place |
| 13:14:41 | krz | gevaerts: what is the fs number of the patch? i lost it :) |
| 13:14:50 | bertrik | I may be missing something again, but I get an error on compilation of libwps (WPS_ALBUMART_ALIGN_RIGHT undeclared) |
| 13:14:59 | gevaerts | FS #9344 |
| 13:15:20 | gevaerts | bertrik: not all targets compile currently |
| 13:15:33 | * | gevaerts goes to have lunch now. Be back later |
| 13:16:08 | krz | bertrik: there are about 8-10 targets compiling successfully |
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| 13:19:41 | linuxstb | krz: I tried your wps editor for the first time this morning, and noticed that (on Linux, and presumably all Unix variants) that ".rockbox" isn't shown in the "open wps" dialog. |
| 13:20:15 | krz | linuxstb: jup, it doesn't show idden files |
| 13:20:22 | krz | *hidden |
| 13:20:44 | linuxstb | My other comment is that I think it really needs to be a theme editor (i.e. loading/saving a theme .cfg), and not just a wps editor. Otherwise, how can you show the correct font and colours in the WPS? |
| 13:22:07 | krz | linuxstb: i thought about this idea :) probably this could be |
| 13:22:33 | * | linuxstb suggests "svn mv wpseditor themeeditor"... |
| 13:22:47 | bertrik | krz, ah I have it working now for e200 :) |
| 13:22:56 | BigBambi | I was under the impression it was going to be a theme editor :) |
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| 13:23:19 | BigBambi | Just themeing the WPS and not the rest of it seems like half way only |
| 13:23:40 | linuxstb | Also, why is the Linux binary called "wpseditord", but the windows binary seems to be "wpseditor.exe" ? |
| 13:23:54 | * | bertrik wondered about the d too |
| 13:24:03 | krz | linuxstb: it is debug version :) |
| 13:24:15 | domonoky | the d is qts way of telling you its a debug version.. :-) |
| 13:24:22 | krz | you can build release changing pro file |
| 13:24:42 | linuxstb | So the Windows version is "release" by default and the Linux version "debug" ? |
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| 13:25:23 | krz | linuxstb: nope, i have also debug version by default on windows |
| 13:25:35 | linuxstb | But it's still called wpseditor.exe ? |
| 13:27:07 | krz | linuxstb: nope, it should be wpseditord |
| 13:27:18 | linuxstb | OK, then the README is wrong. |
| 13:27:40 | krz | true.. |
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| 13:28:56 | linuxstb | Would it make sense for "release" to be default, and then add instructions to the README for building a debug version? |
| 13:30:13 | krz | linuxstb: may be it is good |
| 13:30:22 | bertrik | I would rather use a debug version at this point, what is the advantage of a release version? |
| 13:30:56 | krz | smaller size =) |
| 13:31:13 | BigBambi | how do you select which target to compile for? I just ran qmake-qt4 && make - it compiled fine, I ran it, and on trying to open a wps it segfalted |
| 13:32:56 | krz | BigBambi: do you see any libwps, in gui/bin? |
| 13:33:08 | BigBambi | libwps.so |
| 13:33:10 | linuxstb | bertrik: Then you can follow the instructions in the README for building a debug version ;) I'm hoping that would be as simple as passing an option to qmake or make... |
| 13:33:58 | ripperoO | hi. Is there any plugin for book reading? I need bookmark support, but have'nt found it in default text viewer. |
| 13:34:02 | bertrik | linuxstb, no I'd rather have YOU do something special to build a release :P |
| 13:34:34 | BigBambi | ripperoO: As I understand it, the text viewer will remember where you were on the previous text file, but there aren't bookmarks per se |
| 13:34:41 | BigBambi | However, I could well be wrong |
| 13:34:50 | BigBambi | Does the manual say anything? |
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| 13:37:09 | ripperoO | BigBambi, haven't found manual page about it |
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| 13:38:33 | BigBambi | ripperoO: This is it in the manual: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1940009.3.10 but it doesn't seem to mention it |
| 13:39:17 | BigBambi | krz: Where do you select which target you are building for/opening the WPS for? |
| 13:39:56 | bertrik | BigBambi, you need to compile the libwps.so targets in libwps with buildall.sh, then copy them over to the directory containing the wpseditor executable |
| 13:40:45 | BigBambi | bertrik: Thanks. I just followed the readme which doesn't mention any of that.... |
| 13:41:14 | BigBambi | If you do just follow the README, it builds fine and even runs, but segfaults when you try to open a .wps |
| 13:41:29 | linuxstb | BigBambi: I didn't think you could at the moment - it looks to be hard-coded for the H10 5GB |
| 13:42:03 | linuxstb | BigBambi: But see #9344 |
| 13:42:33 | BigBambi | linuxstb: Cheers |
| 13:42:45 | krz | BigBambi: do you open wps file like WPSNAME.dimensions.wps? |
| 13:43:35 | bertrik | BigBambi, error handling is not complete yet I think |
| 13:43:56 | BigBambi | nope, it is called cabbieBB.wps - but it is for the gigabeatF, so if doing qmake-qt4 && make as in the README without doing buildall in libwps and copying the required .so it is hardcoded to the H10 5GB, I guess that is why it failed? |
| 13:44:41 | BigBambi | bertrik: Do I need root to run buildall? |
| 13:45:09 | krz | BigBambi: and how is called wpsfilder? |
| 13:45:21 | krz | cabbieBB? or cabbie? |
| 13:45:28 | BigBambi | cabbieBB.wps |
| 13:45:36 | BigBambi | Oh, sorry, folder |
| 13:45:38 | BigBambi | :) |
| 13:45:40 | BigBambi | cabbieBB |
| 13:45:47 | BigBambi | IT works fine on target |
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| 13:49:40 | BigBambi | krz: It opens fine if I build and copy the libwps.so for the gigabeatf |
| 13:50:03 | BigBambi | The icons are all in the wrong place, but it doesn't crash |
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| 13:50:27 | krz | you are testing it on linux, yes? |
| 13:50:35 | BigBambi | yes |
| 13:50:38 | krz | yes, libwps.so)) |
| 13:51:25 | krz | strange. i'll make logging later to find out where it crashes |
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| 13:58:36 | * | gevaerts would build debug versions at least until it is considered ready for general use (i.e. until it's a really usable text-based wps-editor with preview) |
| 13:59:19 | gevaerts | Then you can at least just set ulimit -c unlimited and just get a usable core file, no need to try to reproduce rare segfaults any more |
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| 14:02:04 | gevaerts | linuxstb: you can set it to show "hidden" files by right-clicking on the open dialog |
| 14:02:17 | YippMN | hey guys, i have a Sansa e260 and rockbox , and some how shut off the backlight, is there a way to reset to defualts and get the back light back on? |
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| 14:04:18 | gevaerts | YippMN: hold Rec immediately after turning it on |
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| 14:05:47 | YippMN | gevaerts, ahh ok thanks worked :)) |
| 14:06:51 | gevaerts | YippMN: it's in the manual by the way :) |
| 14:07:17 | YippMN | gevaerts, oh it is? hmm must have missed it thanks again |
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| 14:07:45 | gevaerts | krz: you need to add qApp->applicationDirPath()+"/" to the getModelName() call in QWpsDrawer::getTargets() to make it work when launched from another dir |
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| 14:52:06 | UncleRemus | Do you have a tip on how to fast put rockbox to play all music files on the device? (I have all Artists in the root folder, I think I saw somewhere that this was the preferred arrangement, but maybe I remember incorrectly?) |
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| 14:52:54 | UncleRemus | If I have them all under a /music/... -folder, it would be simpler. Any cons with having that structure? |
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| 14:57:57 | PaulJam | UncleRemus: there isn't really a "preferred" arrangement of your music files in rockbox. many people have their music under a /music/ directory. |
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| 15:08:16 | * | gevaerts uses /audio |
| 15:08:17 | s00n | I have a player x-cube x-501 sr, whether it is possible to put him rockbox |
| 15:08:25 | s00n | ? |
| 15:09:54 | gevaerts | s00n: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
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| 15:19:05 | nobodyspecial | anyone know if the current rockbox build will work with a Pioneer DEH-P600UB car stereo? |
| 15:21:09 | JdGordon | there is none |
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| 15:21:24 | JdGordon|zzz | or... no it wont work |
| 15:21:29 | nobodyspecial | damn |
| 15:21:48 | nobodyspecial | it works with my girlfriends rf adapter, but yeah it doesn't want to work with my new deck |
| 15:21:53 | nobodyspecial | makes me sad =/ |
| 15:24:38 | UncleRemus | PaulJam: OK, I must have misinterpreted that from somewhere. I'll get myself a /music folder then. |
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| 15:28:01 | PaulJam | nobodyspecial: there is a work-in-progress patch for the ipod accessory protocol (not sure if that's what you're looking for, though): http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8624?histring=protocol |
| 15:32:53 | s00n | ipod suck |
| 15:34:22 | nobodyspecial | nice, this might work for me, thanks PaulJam |
| 15:34:46 | nobodyspecial | and this isn't in the default branch eh? |
| 15:37:24 | bluebrother | no, otherwise it wouldn't be a task in the tracker, would it? ;-) |
| 15:37:44 | PaulJam | as far as i know not. so you'll have to compile your own build with this patch applied |
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| 16:03:31 | hunden1 | as far as purchasing a new player, is there one that is particularly recommended for running rockbox? |
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| 16:04:26 | BigBambi | hunden1: It depends what features you want |
| 16:04:32 | domonoky | hunden1: mybe take look at the wiki: BuyersGuide .. |
| 16:04:36 | BigBambi | see www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 16:04:36 | gevaerts | hunden1: two things : (a) "a new player" is pretty vague. What are your requirements? and (b) No "new" player works with rockbox, so you'll need to go second-hand or refurbished |
| 16:04:52 | gevaerts | (or long-lost stock that someone suddenly found) |
| 16:05:31 | BigBambi | If you just want reasonable capacity with no radio/recording etc., I'd go for the Gigabeat F, for recording the H100, for a paper weight an ipod |
| 16:06:03 | gevaerts | For a paper weight I'd go with an AJB or JBR. Much heavier |
| 16:06:15 | BigBambi | But they are more useful than an ipod |
| 16:06:38 | hunden1 | gevaerts: my thoughts exactly, I have not been looking around alot but the models listed on rockbox.org appears to be either out of stock or obsolete |
| 16:07:02 | gevaerts | None of them are obsolete... Not available new, maybe, but certainly not obsolete |
| 16:07:06 | BigBambi | hunden1: They aren't produced any more, that doen't make them obsolete |
| 16:07:25 | BigBambi | I would take some of the older players over any currently produced ones any day |
| 16:07:39 | hunden1 | basically I would like cue and vbr support |
| 16:08:08 | BigBambi | any Rockbox player will do that |
| 16:08:34 | BigBambi | We are talking more about the big features - what storage, radio, recording, colour screen,..... |
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| 16:10:31 | hunden1 | flash media, radio and colour screen is not crucial. in essence, an affordable lightweight player with display |
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| 16:11:56 | BigBambi | How much storage? |
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| 16:12:11 | hunden1 | 2GB is sufficient |
| 16:12:30 | BigBambi | get a sansa e200 or c200 then |
| 16:12:36 | BigBambi | make sure they are v1 though |
| 16:12:45 | BigBambi | v2 doesn't work at the moment |
| 16:13:01 | Galois | froobi.com still has 2GB v1 sansas for $30. I'm not too happy with mine, though. They have a buzzing noise (all of them). |
| 16:13:02 | hunden1 | how can I be sure of that before I purchase it? |
| 16:13:09 | domonoky | something like this.. http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-e270-6GB-MP3-Media-Player-w-FMVoice-Recorder-Factory-Recertified-Rockbox-Ready_p_78-32282.html |
| 16:13:26 | BigBambi | hunden1: Unfortunately, the only sure way is to look at the OF version |
| 16:13:27 | gevaerts | Except that froobi doesn't deliver outside their own country |
| 16:13:54 | BigBambi | Galois: I've never heard it myself, but have heard others say so - it depends quite a lot on earphones I think |
| 16:13:57 | domonoky | the only sure way to distinguish a v1 sansa from a v2 is the firmware version (v2 sansas have firmware version 3.x.x.) |
| 16:14:22 | BigBambi | hunden1: However, I would be very surprised if you found a v1 in a shop |
| 16:14:26 | gevaerts | The other 2GB player you can get is an ipod nano 1st gen |
| 16:14:39 | BigBambi | ebay would be the best bet - that way you could ask the seller the OF version as well |
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| 16:14:56 | bluebrother | you could also look for an ipod mini on ebay. Much easier to figure if Rockbox will run or not ;-) |
| 16:14:59 | domonoky | BigBambi: take look at the link i posted. v1 sansas ready for rockbox from a shop... unfortunatly they only ship to US... |
| 16:15:10 | gevaerts | Or you could go for an ipod mini. If you ever want more storage, just put a CF card in it |
| 16:15:11 | BigBambi | domonoky: yes, refurbs |
| 16:15:25 | BigBambi | domonoky: I meant new in a shop, sorry, I didn't say that |
| 16:15:27 | hunden1 | if they only ship within us that is a problem for me |
| 16:15:27 | domonoky | BigBambi: sure, but from a shop :-) |
| 16:15:52 | BigBambi | Shop to me tends to mean real physical shop as well :) |
| 16:16:22 | BigBambi | hunden1: In summary, you are going to need to look second hand whichever player you decide on |
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| 16:16:27 | hunden1 | I'll take a look at the used market |
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| 16:16:40 | BigBambi | (with some exceptions) |
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| 16:33:50 | hunden1 | alright, thanks for your thoughts |
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| 16:52:45 | kugel | Slasheri: ping |
| 16:57:14 | * | gevaerts seems to have done interesting things with the usb stack lately |
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| 16:57:40 | kugel | gevaerts: tell me more |
| 16:57:55 | gevaerts | kugel: easy. It eats filesystems for lunch |
| 16:58:31 | kugel | and cats for dinner? |
| 16:58:34 | kugel | ;) |
| 16:58:37 | gevaerts | possibly |
| 16:58:47 | desowin | and is never fed up |
| 16:58:50 | kugel | poor cats, evil usb |
| 16:59:30 | * | bluebrother wonders why gevaerts would do that |
| 16:59:58 | * | gevaerts did it by trying to fix corruption issues |
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| 17:00:52 | * | kugel wonders how reliable usb on PP502x is now |
| 17:01:13 | gevaerts | On what target? |
| 17:01:14 | kugel | after r18327 |
| 17:01:23 | kugel | e200 for example |
| 17:01:27 | bluebrother | gevaerts: kugel -> e200 :D |
| 17:01:33 | gevaerts | not h10? |
| 17:01:48 | kugel | yea, I don't get why you're still asking me that question ;) |
| 17:02:33 | kugel | but, I apparently need a new device soon |
| 17:02:45 | desowin | kugel: it's not reliable with high speed, with full speed it worked quite ok for me |
| 17:02:46 | bluebrother | woah ... you crazy? :P |
| 17:03:02 | gevaerts | kugel: that fix only works for some people, but makes it worse for others. In addition, it seems to cause serious issues on ipod (investigating now) |
| 17:03:16 | kugel | oh |
| 17:03:39 | gevaerts | If that is indeed the case, I'll revert it... |
| 17:04:33 | * | gevaerts thinks that occasional corruption for some sansa users is better than guaranteed corruption for all ipod users |
| 17:05:23 | * | kugel hands gevaerts some #ifdefs |
| 17:05:26 | kugel | :P |
| 17:06:07 | gevaerts | kugel: what about the "some" in some sansa users? For some e200 people, this patch causes problems |
| 17:06:21 | * | gevaerts lets kugel and desowin fight it out |
| 17:07:00 | kugel | gevaerts: #ifdef UNLUCKY_SANSA_USER :D |
| 17:08:28 | kugel | hmm, I'm wondering whether I get a new, unported dap, or an old rockbox'd one |
| 17:08:50 | gevaerts | kugel: anyway most people agree that usb_storage.c is the wrong place to handle this. It's basically an sd driver issue, and it should be fixed in ata-sd-pp.c |
| 17:09:05 | gevaerts | The only issue is that we don't have a real fix |
| 17:09:56 | kugel | I start studying computer engineering in october, so I possibly be able to start hacking a device myself (not alone of course) |
| 17:10:14 | kugel | gevaerts: sad to hear |
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| 17:17:07 | * | kugel found a very interesting datasheet on sony a810/a800 series |
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| 17:49:32 | Beyecixramd | hi |
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| 17:51:06 | advcomp2019 | Beyecixramd, hello |
| 17:51:26 | Beyecixramd | i was browsing the rockbox site |
| 17:51:50 | Beyecixramd | i have an archos 705, what can i do to have rockbox on it? |
| 17:52:13 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 17:53:04 | Beyecixramd | lol embedded programming in c |
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| 17:53:59 | bertrik_ | yes, it's a lot of fun |
| 17:54:17 | gevaerts | most of the time :) |
| 17:54:25 | kugel | how hard would a port be, given there's very detailed datasheets and OF source code available? |
| 17:54:26 | Beyecixramd | hum |
| 17:54:27 | * | bluebrother suggests embedded programming in java to increase the fun |
| 17:54:40 | Beyecixramd | what is a pcbs |
| 17:54:43 | Beyecixramd | xD |
| 17:54:44 | * | gevaerts hits bluebrother with a virtual machine |
| 17:55:04 | gevaerts | Beyecixramd: pcb == printed circuit board |
| 17:55:22 | Beyecixramd | and what's a flatbed scanner? |
| 17:55:28 | bertrik_ | off-topic |
| 17:55:36 | Beyecixramd | xD sorry im new but i want to learn |
| 17:55:38 | domonoky | Beyecixramd: ask google... |
| 17:55:51 | bluebrother | gevaerts: jvm or something like virtualbox? *g* |
| 17:56:03 | bluebrother | what is the internet? |
| 17:56:05 | J-23 | Beyecixramd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_scanner#Flatbed |
| 17:56:08 | gevaerts | bluebrother: both. That's heavier |
| 17:56:11 | Beyecixramd | thx |
| 17:56:16 | * | bluebrother ducks |
| 17:56:33 | domonoky | how about a hypervisor for rockbox... something like Xenbox :-) |
| 17:56:36 | bluebrother | gevaerts: what is a virtual machine? SCNR. |
| 17:56:53 | * | gevaerts hits bluebrother with a heavy object |
| 17:57:17 | bluebrother | ouch |
| 17:57:21 | Beyecixramd | so i have to scan and upload the circuits? |
| 17:57:41 | * | bluebrother hands gevaerts this heavy Qt4.4 tarball |
| 17:57:57 | gevaerts | That's the first step, yes. You need to know what hardware is used exactly |
| 17:58:06 | Beyecixramd | ok |
| 17:58:26 | bluebrother | well, knowing if the CPU is supported by gcc is the first step. You don't need necessarily to scan the pcb for that |
| 17:58:34 | bluebrother | but it might help |
| 17:58:44 | Beyecixramd | so i must learn c in order to put rockbox in my device? |
| 17:58:46 | gevaerts | bluebrother: what should I do with that? Shouldn't GUI installers be written in python anyway? |
| 17:58:59 | Beyecixramd | i mean, there isnt an alternative way |
| 17:59:14 | bluebrother | gevaerts: no, ruby :P |
| 17:59:34 | * | bluebrother blames domonoky for the python plugin task |
| 17:59:36 | gevaerts | Beyecixramd: you could try to find some other owners of the same device |
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| 18:00:10 | bluebrother | Beyecixramd: in fact, you _should_ try to find others with the same device wanting to port Rockbox. It's lots of work ... |
| 18:00:25 | Beyecixramd | lol |
| 18:01:42 | bluebrother | no, nothing to lol about. That's serious |
| 18:02:00 | * | bluebrother is tempted to drop the backup-bootloader-file stuff for now |
| 18:02:13 | gevaerts | porting rockbox to a device is not an afternoon's work. |
| 18:04:03 | Beyecixramd | i know |
| 18:04:30 | Beyecixramd | but i really want to port rockbox to the 705 |
| 18:05:14 | bluebrother | well, do we know about the CPU architecture of that player? |
| 18:05:56 | Beyecixramd | eh. |
| 18:06:18 | Beyecixramd | all i know is that works at 700 mhz |
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| 18:09:00 | BigBambi | looks like it is ARM |
| 18:09:37 | J-23 | The 605 WiFi, along with, reportedly, the 705 WiFi and 604 WiFi, were successfully hacked to run the Linux platform QTopia with help from the same users who had done so on the older PMA400.[7] |
| 18:09:42 | J-23 | as Wikipedia says |
| 18:09:51 | Beyecixramd | Qtopia? |
| 18:09:55 | Beyecixramd | what's that?? |
| 18:10:04 | J-23 | Qtopia is a Linux distribution for mobile devices |
| 18:10:06 | gevaerts | A QT based mobile GUI |
| 18:10:27 | Beyecixramd | hmmm |
| 18:10:36 | Beyecixramd | that shouldn't make things easier? |
| 18:10:48 | J-23 | maybe |
| 18:11:08 | Beyecixramd | ill try to install qtopia |
| 18:11:29 | Beyecixramd | oh lol it supports wifi in the archos devices |
| 18:11:34 | Beyecixramd | it's gonna be fun |
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| 18:11:59 | bluebrother | well, sounds like some guys figured at least the basic hardware. This does make things easier, but still loads of work |
| 18:12:57 | domonoky | its seems this device already runs linux, and its hacked : http://code.google.com/p/arcwelder/ |
| 18:13:07 | Beyecixramd | yeah BUT |
| 18:13:21 | Beyecixramd | qtopia only works in a 1.7.06 firmware |
| 18:14:41 | Beyecixramd | afk |
| 18:14:46 | * | bluebrother goes breaking his bootloader rework once more |
| 18:19:33 | * | domonoky thinks it may be better to go the "Rockbox as a Application" way for this archos 705 target... they already run linux,and have a way to install custom code and rockbox probably can not provide all the features this device has (like wifi/tv out, etc) ... |
| 18:20:32 | * | gevaerts agrees |
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| 18:24:41 | Beyecixramd | ok, im back |
| 18:24:53 | Beyecixramd | im now installing the image in my archos |
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| 18:28:18 | J-23 | oh.. |
| 18:28:56 | Beyecixramd | it doesn't seem to work... |
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| 18:30:03 | Beyecixramd | ok, it haves problems with the 2.x firmware |
| 18:30:21 | gevaerts | Beyecixramd: while this QTopia thing may be a good first step to get to know the software and hardware, it is off-topic here |
| 18:30:36 | Beyecixramd | ok |
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| 19:22:19 | Sinnerman | hello. is there a way to direct rbutilqt to an already downloaded rockbox.zip? |
| 19:25:08 | rasher | Sinnerman: No, but if you already have downloaded rockbox.zip, simply unzip it to your drive |
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| 19:25:51 | Sinnerman | rasher: i did, and all it asked me when i chose install, was whether to back it up, or to overwrite it; i guess i should have just used the sansapatcher and gone the manual installation route, altogether. where does it save the downloaded files, by the way? |
| 19:27:09 | rasher | Sinnerman: Just install the bootloader, and manually unzip rockbox.zip to your player. That's all the full install does |
| 19:27:40 | Sinnerman | rasher: ah, well, i'll bear that in mind for next time; it's doing a full install and downloading stuff now :D. where does it save the downloads? |
| 19:27:50 | rasher | Sinnerman: That I don't know |
| 19:28:18 | Sinnerman | fair enough. |
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| 19:29:45 | Sinnerman | well, it would seem it saves those files as a series of qt_temp* files in /tmp. |
| 19:32:05 | domonoky | Sinnerman: thats correct, they are stored temporary in the temp dir, till they are unpacked to your device... |
| 19:34:12 | Sinnerman | ach. so if you have a lousy internet connection, you can't cache those for a later reinstall, if you need it. not a big problem, i can do it manually, but the behaviour was slightly unexpected :D. |
| 19:34:41 | J-23 | Beyecixramd: and does Qtopia work for you? ;) |
| 19:34:47 | Beyecixramd | nope |
| 19:35:15 | Beyecixramd | my firmware version is 2.1 |
| 19:35:34 | Beyecixramd | the archos guys fixed the exploit in the version 2 |
| 19:38:10 | domonoky | Sinnerman: there is an option in rbutil to turn on a file cache... |
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| 19:38:58 | Sinnerman | domonoky: i have to admit, i just fired it up, and clicked on install. i should have played around with it a little first. by the point i realised what it was doing, i thought i might as well just let it carry on. |
| 19:40:23 | rasher | domonoky: Err, please speak English in the tracker |
| 19:40:46 | domonoky | ups.. this lanuage switching confuses me.. |
| 19:40:48 | J-23 | Hmm, what are the problems with v2 Sansas? |
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| 19:42:33 | Sinnerman | im glad i have a v1. i never quite like its user interface, and now, well, for whatever reason, its boots up every time asking me what language, and forgetting the settings. i had delayed installing rockbox :S. i thought now's the time. :D |
| 19:42:59 | Sinnerman | well, i have a v1. sansa e260. |
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| 19:43:27 | * | J-23 considers buying e200 or other player better (= with bigger screen) than my C240 |
| 19:43:32 | J-23 | my C240 has broken audio connector |
| 19:43:35 | J-23 | known issue |
| 19:43:50 | Beyecixramd | bigger screen? |
| 19:44:01 | Sinnerman | i also just bought a 4GB ipod nano 3rd gen today. |
| 19:44:08 | Beyecixramd | the archos 705 has a 7 screen |
| 19:44:14 | J-23 | c240 has 132x80px |
| 19:44:15 | Beyecixramd | haves* |
| 19:44:22 | J-23 | = AFAIK 2" |
| 19:44:33 | domonoky | Beyecixramd: but it doesnt run rockbox.. (for now) :-) |
| 19:44:37 | Beyecixramd | xD |
| 19:44:44 | Beyecixramd | that's right |
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| 20:04:47 | bluebrother | Sinnerman: if you want to install offline there's "offline mode" in rbutil. |
| 20:05:18 | bluebrother | also, "full install" does more than installing a build and the bootloader. It also installs the fonts package and allows installing themes directly. |
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| 20:08:43 | Sinnerman | bluebrother: i realised that after i had it going. i need to check out the offline install mode, though, for future reference. |
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| 20:09:10 | Lymies | So I'm using the GUI installer on linux, third generation ipod. I click the full install thingie and it downloads something and then says 'could not open ipod.' |
| 20:09:42 | domonoky | Lymies: are you running it as root ? it needs raw dis accesss.. |
| 20:09:53 | Lymies | oh |
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| 20:11:53 | Lymies | thank you domonoky |
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| 20:15:16 | bluebrother | Sinnerman: currently offline mode requires you to have performed the same install before to get the files cached. If you have a good idea on how to improve that please tell so ;-) |
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| 20:21:39 | Sinnerman | bluebrother: hmm. maybe have a tab in the config to get you to point it at the files you downloaded manually? |
| 20:22:33 | bluebrother | well, unfortunately it's a bit complicated. The files to download differ between targets and are saved on different servers. |
| 20:23:09 | bluebrother | which is a reason we don't have a local repository support yet. |
| 20:23:35 | Sinnerman | yeah i was just thinking about that. |
| 20:23:41 | Sinnerman | that would be a nightmare. |
| 20:24:57 | bluebrother | currently the downloading class uses md5 values of the server urls as cache filenames. Problem is how to build this database up |
| 20:25:28 | bluebrother | fortunately bootloader installation is only a rather small download, and manually installing the build isn't really hard |
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| 20:26:50 | Sinnerman | yeah, i just thought i'd try to do it the easy way first hehe. |
| 20:27:09 | Sinnerman | wow. man, there are so many options in rockbox :S. lol. it'd take me a while to get used to it. |
| 20:27:57 | * | domonoky recommends Sinnerman a look at our fine manual.. :-) |
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| 20:30:49 | Sinnerman | domonoky: you know, how when you get something new you just can't wait to play with it :D. i'll get there sooner or later though. hehehehe. |
| 20:32:13 | * | domonoky just mentioned the manual, so look at it before you ask about all those features here :-) |
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| 20:34:41 | J-23 | Is there iRiver E100 simulator? |
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| 20:35:45 | domonoky | J-23: rockbox doesnt run on this, so why should we have a simulator for it ? |
| 20:36:20 | J-23 | "iriver H100/115 NO MAJOR ISSUES" on TargetStatus wiki page |
| 20:36:33 | Lymies | ok i just installed rockbox and now its not being recognized by my system |
| 20:36:38 | gevaerts | J-23: H and E are slightly different letters |
| 20:36:52 | * | gevaerts explains about the alphabet |
| 20:36:56 | J-23 | ahh |
| 20:36:56 | Lymies | ubuntu, ipod 3rd generation, full install with the gui installer |
| 20:37:40 | kugel | Lymies: You need to boot into disk mode/OF |
| 20:37:51 | Lymies | whats that |
| 20:38:01 | kugel | OF = Original Firmware |
| 20:38:09 | kugel | Rockbox doesn't offer USB by default |
| 20:38:15 | Lymies | oh |
| 20:38:20 | Lymies | how do you make it offer USB |
| 20:38:51 | kugel | Well, you would need to alter the source code and compile your own rockbox build |
| 20:39:02 | domonoky | Lymies: rockbox usb support isnt completly ready, reboot into apple os for usb |
| 20:39:34 | Lymies | well how do you boot into the apple firmware |
| 20:39:35 | kugel | The USB code isn't reliable on many targets, so I really recommend just using the OF for file transfers. Rockbox will see the files anyway |
| 20:39:58 | kugel | Lymies: How about you take a look at the manual? |
| 20:42:27 | Lymies | mmmm |
| 20:43:04 | bluebrother | Rockbox Utility even has a complete tab for the manual ... ;-) |
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| 20:58:08 | Sinnerman | gah. :'((( i wish i'd started using rockbox a LOT earlier. if only because it lets me max out the bass so much :D. |
| 20:59:37 | Sinnerman | pity my earphones can't cope with that. |
| 20:59:44 | Beyecixramd | hey |
| 20:59:57 | Beyecixramd | so rockbox deletes the audio limitation |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:03 | Beyecixramd | on ipods |
| 21:00:03 | Sinnerman | :D maybe i shouldn't have bothered with the ipod nano after all :D. |
| 21:02:53 | Sinnerman | aw man, i wish all my music players let me max out the bass like this does. it gives a new meaning to listening to music. <3 <3 rockbox! |
| 21:03:02 | scorche|sh | Beyecixramd: rockbox doesnt touch the original firmware...rockbox is simply a replacement firmware that doesnt have such a limitation implemented |
| 21:03:28 | Beyecixramd | rockbox roxks |
| 21:03:32 | Beyecixramd | rocks* |
| 21:03:36 | Beyecixramd | xD |
| 21:03:47 | Sinnerman | scorche|sh: before i dive into the manual per se, is it possible to modify the data displayed when playing a file, like the vu meter, song title etc? |
| 21:03:49 | bluebrother | new meaning to listening? "Don't need to listen to anything else than the bass anymore"? |
| 21:04:03 | bluebrother | Sinnerman: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 21:04:23 | Sinnerman | bluebrother: richer sound! agh. i knew someone was going to point me out there. i have downloaded it already. still playing around with it :D. |
| 21:04:44 | domonoky | Sinnerman: yes, look at the manual, or WpsGallerys in the wiki.. :-) |
| 21:05:00 | * | scorche|sh kicks JdGordon|zzz |
| 21:05:40 | bluebrother | "richer" meaning "only bass ... nothing else" ...? |
| 21:06:24 | Sinnerman | domonoky: thanks. i just discovered custom view :D and was wondering why it was blank hehe. then realised. im used to figuring out things for myself. this is waaayyy to complex though :D. |
| 21:06:31 | Sinnerman | bluebrother: slightly richer then :D. |
| 21:08:20 | Lymies | i cannot find in the manual how to boot into the original firmware |
| 21:09:31 | * | domonoky points Lymies at section 3.1.3 .. |
| 21:10:00 | bluebrother | Lymies: is "Starting the original firmware" descriptive enough? http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod3g/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-290003.1.3 |
| 21:10:06 | Sinnerman | hey by the way, the manual's a great job. so's the firmware. i mean, wow. im just sad i didn't use it earlier. |
| 21:10:29 | Lymies | thanks |
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| 21:15:15 | Sinnerman | battery life on my sansa e260 is kinda lousy these days. :S |
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| 21:17:06 | Sinnerman | it's a lot nicer player with rockbox on it. by far. anyways, thanks guys. |
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| 21:36:15 | Bger | Bagder: alive ? :) |
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| 21:39:12 | Bger | rasher: ? |
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| 21:39:55 | rasher | Bger: I'm here |
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| 21:40:30 | BigBambi | dammit it all |
| 21:40:40 | * | BigBambi just got filesystem corruption on the beast |
| 21:41:08 | bluefoxx | so im trying to mod the image files in a wps file, only changing the colors. no problem doing that but when i tested it out i get htese big ugly chunks of pink which previusly showed nothing. how can i fix this? |
| 21:41:10 | BigBambi | trying to unzip a new build from today containing the don't corrupt the filesystem fix :) |
| 21:41:18 | Bger | rasher: hi, do you have some spare time to commit a bulgarian lang upd ? |
| 21:41:44 | rasher | Bger: Sure |
| 21:41:49 | Bger | just a sec |
| 21:41:59 | Bger | http link ok? |
| 21:42:06 | rasher | Yep |
| 21:42:11 | Bger | diff or full file ? |
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| 21:42:36 | rasher | Either will do |
| 21:42:42 | Bger | k |
| 21:42:52 | domonoky | bluefoxx: make sure this pink is really pink (255 0 255), only then it will be transparent.. |
| 21:43:36 | Bger | rasher: just a sec |
| 21:44:09 | bluefoxx | domonoky: ok, thanks |
| 21:45:13 | bluefoxx | domonoky: eerm, is there any utility i can use for this purpose? im using a windows port of the gimp at the moment |
| 21:46:19 | crashd_ | that's magenta btw, not pink :p |
| 21:46:37 | BigBambi | crashd_: 255 0 255 is hot pink |
| 21:46:46 | crashd_ | 255, 0, 255 is cyan |
| 21:46:50 | crashd_ | umm, magenta |
| 21:46:53 | bluefoxx | so 255 0 255 as in rgb values right? |
| 21:46:55 | crashd_ | what am i even saying |
| 21:47:06 | crashd_ | you can call it hot pink if you'd like BigBambi ;) |
| 21:47:39 | BigBambi | It is not magenta |
| 21:48:04 | BigBambi | bluefoxx: yes |
| 21:48:16 | crashd_ | fine, you believe what you want man, i was just clarifying :) |
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| 21:48:32 | BigBambi | If you clarify wrong, to me that is not clarifying |
| 21:49:07 | BigBambi | I take that back |
| 21:49:12 | crashd_ | red, green, blue, cyan, magenta, yellow, i don't see the problem man |
| 21:49:13 | * | domonoky points to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magenta . :-) |
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| 21:49:28 | wpyh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_pink |
| 21:49:37 | bluefoxx | BigBambi: allriight, thanks |
| 21:50:02 | bluefoxx | {accedentally hit the back button on my mouse while switching to this tab} |
| 21:50:07 | wpyh | hm... that link seems to be wrong |
| 21:50:45 | BigBambi | Sorry, I was referring to magenta as what that wikipedia article calls magenta dye |
| 21:50:58 | Bger | rasher: you've got the link, haven't you? |
| 21:51:13 | BigBambi | I didn't realise it also meant pink |
| 21:51:15 | rasher | Bger: Yeah. You're Hristo Kovachev, right? |
| 21:51:20 | wpyh | BigBambi: _my_ link is wrong |
| 21:51:31 | Bger | rasher: yeah |
| 21:51:32 | BigBambi | wpyh: domonoky's isn't |
| 21:51:35 | BigBambi | wpyh: domonoky's isn't |
| 21:51:54 | BigBambi | oops, sorry for the repetition |
| 21:52:16 | wpyh | ah, ok |
| 21:52:22 | wpyh | but it is indeed magenta |
| 21:52:27 | rasher | Bger: Committed. If you have more free time, check rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/problems.php?lang=bulgarian">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/problems.php?lang=bulgarian - some of the issues can be fixed using the automated fixer form at the bottom of http://rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/ |
| 21:52:29 | wpyh | it's a bit confusing.. |
| 21:53:49 | Bger | rasher: ah, let me see it |
| 21:54:25 | rasher | Bger: And if you have a fixed file, you can upload it at the bottom of problems.php to have it checked |
| 21:55:33 | Bger | yeah, i saw it ;) |
| 21:55:39 | BigBambi | crashd_: Anyway, apologies for the confusion :) |
| 21:55:57 | crashd_ | no probs dude, i wasn't trying to be an ass :) |
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| 21:58:33 | rasher | Bger: I'd probably apply the "empty strings" and "voice strings" fixes, then work manually from there |
| 21:59:10 | Bger | yep, the sort makes things worse ... |
| 21:59:26 | Bger | for checking the diff |
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| 22:00:06 | rasher | Exactly. It doesn't serve much of a purpose either. Genlang doesn't keep new entries sorted, so with time, it'll get wrong again |
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| 22:05:16 | Lymies | my ipod isn't charging... |
| 22:06:13 | Lymies | i tried plugging it into my computer and to an ac adaptor and whenever i plug it in it just flashes the low battery signal for a few seconds and then the screen goes blank |
| 22:10:21 | saratoga | Lymies: I think thats a common problem with the apple bootloader |
| 22:10:38 | saratoga | just leave it charging for a day or whatever and it'll sort itself out |
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| 22:18:05 | Lymies | it was an issue with the charger itself |
| 22:18:11 | Lymies | i used another one and now it works |
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| 22:25:28 | Bger | rasher: here? |
| 22:25:41 | rasher | Bger: Yep |
| 22:26:11 | Bger | same link, i only did 'fix empty strings' |
| 22:26:56 | Bger | too much work for the voice fixes |
| 22:29:56 | rasher | Bger: Don't think it's worth it to commit only that - it doesn't make a practical difference (for Bulgarian) |
| 22:34:55 | Bger | okey:) |
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| 22:38:59 | bluefoxx | there we go |
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| 22:48:11 | rasher | amiconn: Should I bother about order of headers and properties, to make the diffs smaller, or just commit the fonts? |
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| 23:04:33 | mcuelenaere | wpyh: even if we ignore them, it's not a good sign that these interrupts occur |
| 23:04:41 | mcuelenaere | I mean, it's not healthy |
| 23:04:45 | wpyh | yes, it's definitely not good |
| 23:04:56 | wpyh | but maybe we can ignore those for now ? |
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| 23:05:51 | mcuelenaere | for the logs: http://pastebin.com/fa181bcd |
| 23:06:00 | mcuelenaere | wpyh: I'm not sure, perhaps this is possible |
| 23:06:11 | mcuelenaere | I'm not really familiar with MIPS cpu's |
| 23:07:00 | wpyh | hm |
| 23:07:02 | * | wpyh too |
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| 23:07:37 | mcuelenaere | I'll look it up |
| 23:07:46 | saratoga | aren't TLBs on MIPS cores standardized? |
| 23:07:52 | saratoga | i thought it was in teh MIPS ISA |
| 23:07:56 | mcuelenaere | yes they are |
| 23:08:13 | mcuelenaere | but I'm having trouble reading & understanding the Linux code |
| 23:08:30 | mcuelenaere | I'm not really good in MMU stuff.. |
| 23:08:53 | wpyh | mcuelenaere: I've made it forever: http://pastebin.com/f3dac97c |
| 23:09:09 | mcuelenaere | wpyh: so did I :) |
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| 23:10:15 | wpyh | mcuelenaere: I saw it marked as "a month" |
| 23:10:24 | mcuelenaere | weird |
| 23:10:42 | wpyh | ah, I see |
| 23:10:54 | wpyh | if I reopen the new link, it still says "a month" |
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| 23:11:02 | wpyh | maybe we just have to look at the prefix for the link |
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| 23:11:08 | wpyh | f -> forever, m -> month, d -> day |
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| 23:39:44 | billiob | hi, i'm having Result: -5 with latest daily build on my iriver h120, i've run a fsck, removed .rockbox and installed it again |
| 23:40:06 | billiob | anyone knows where i can find old daily builds ? |
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| 23:42:05 | scorche|sh | billiob: are you sure you downloaded the right zip file? |
| 23:42:08 | dionoea | billiob: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/h120/ |
| 23:42:12 | bluebrother | how old was your old build? What version of the bootloader do you have? |
| 23:42:36 | bluebrother | downgrading isn't a proper fix ... |
| 23:42:57 | scorche|sh | dionoea: eh... |
| 23:43:28 | dionoea | what? |
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| 23:44:54 | billiob | the zip is rev18375 |
| 23:45:30 | billiob | and the bootloader is installed since many years |
| 23:45:50 | scorche|sh | billiob: i mean are you sure you have an H120 and grabbed the H120/H140 build and not the H100/H115 build? |
| 23:46:04 | bluebrother | so, what version is it? I suspect it's too old and it looks for rockbox.iriver in the root |
| 23:46:17 | dionoea | Bagder: The other rockbox download mirror (ie not the videolan one) still has old files from 2007 in the daily builds. You might want to ping the admin to tell him to fix his rsync line so he doesn't run out of disk space |
| 23:46:26 | billiob | oh, maybe you're right :) it's late here... |
| 23:46:38 | scorche|sh | bluebrother: no...error -5 means that the checksum is wrong |
| 23:47:06 | billiob | i've read that |
| 23:47:36 | bluebrother | scorche|sh: argh. We need strings as on the other targets here too |
| 23:48:20 | billiob | ok, thank you, it's working as expected :) |
| 23:48:28 | bluebrother | still, billiob could run into issues with an outdated bootloader only looking in the root |
| 23:48:35 | bluebrother | ok, seems not :) |
| 23:48:46 | scorche|sh | =) |
| 23:51:21 | billiob | and bootloader is alreday version 6 |
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| 23:53:16 | Casainho | hello :-) |
| 23:53:33 | bertrik_ | hi Casainho |
| 23:53:40 | Casainho | I am trying to build the bootloader for a costum port and I get this error: export/AT91SAM9260.h:748: Error: bad instruction `at91_reg MATRIX_MCFG1' |
| 23:53:42 | Casainho | export/AT91SAM9260.h:749: Error: bad instruction `at91_reg MATRIX_MCFG2' |
| 23:54:22 | billiob | thanks again for your work, i wish i could find some time to code with you |
| 23:54:32 | | Part billiob |
| 23:55:06 | * | scorche|sh wishes he could find some time to code with himself =/ |
| 23:55:28 | Casainho | why I am getting this error? - this header files "AT91SAM9260.h" is used on another code and it builds perfect... don't know why trying to use it on RB gives that error |
| 23:55:53 | linuxstb | Casainho: Can you upload that file somewhere? |
| 23:55:58 | gevaerts | Casainho: have a look at where MATRIX_MCFG1 is defined |
| 23:56:07 | bertrik_ | it's probably an #error that was intentionally put there, maybe you need to #define something first |
| 23:57:04 | bertrik_ | have a look at the source code line, maybe there's some comment nearby explaining it |
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