| 00:00:54 | linuxstb | But I don't think 2MB will be a problem, especially with the DAX/M200's small mono LCD. |
| 00:01:30 | linuxstb | It will be a good excuse to attack the codec memory usage, and if possible reduce/remove the 512KB malloc buffer, and reduce the main 512KB codec buffer. |
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| 00:10:28 | rasher | bluebrother: would you mind awfully if I added a (hidden?) all target to rockboxdev.sh? |
| 00:11:16 | bluebrother | rasher: no. I just considered it cleaner removing the "all" option |
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| 00:20:01 | mcuelenaere | bluebrother: why is 'Create voice file' in rbutilqtfrm.ui (in Accessibility) not translatable? |
| 00:22:31 | bluebrother | mcuelenaere: it should be. Are you sure you're not looking at a removed string (happened to me once ...)? |
| 00:23:11 | bluebrother | as far as I can see it's also translated in the german translation |
| 00:23:16 | mcuelenaere | I'm using the Qt Linguist Form Preview function |
| 00:23:22 | mcuelenaere | perhaps I should try a real build |
| 00:23:46 | bluebrother | form preview function? Haven't seen this in linguist |
| 00:24:26 | mcuelenaere | (I'm using the Windows version, not sure if it's in others too) |
| 00:24:30 | mcuelenaere | hit F5 |
| 00:25:03 | bluebrother | ah, found it. Well, the form preview shows me that label untranslated too (checking with german), but the build shows it translated |
| 00:25:17 | bluebrother | heh, I just never noticed that preview. Nice :) |
| 00:25:45 | mcuelenaere | it's handy when you want an overview :) |
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| 01:11:00 | kugel | How can a wps work in a sim, but not on the target? |
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| 01:32:28 | linuxstb | kugel: What are the symptoms? |
| 01:33:35 | kugel | displaying the the hardcoded wps screen |
| 01:34:09 | kugel | the sim displays it fine, doesn't show a debug message in the terminal or something. Also, checkwps doesn't complain either |
| 01:34:43 | kugel | the sim and the target build are built from the same source |
| 01:35:16 | linuxstb | And the wps (and other files) are definitely identical? |
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| 01:37:49 | kugel | yes, I put the sim on the player and did −−root . |
| 01:37:55 | kugel | it are the same files |
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| 01:45:07 | linuxstb | kugel: I would try deleting lines from the wps until you find out the problem, then try and work out why it works in the sim, and then not the target... |
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| 01:47:16 | kugel | they worked the whole time, I wonder if the settings wps tags patch is causing this |
| 01:47:38 | kugel | I don't have such tags in the wps in question though |
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| 01:56:49 | kugel | linuxstb: can it be a bom and/or encoding issue? |
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| 02:14:37 | kugel | well, they work on a current build |
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| 03:23:16 | LinuxMafia | hi |
| 03:23:32 | LinuxMafia | i can not mount my sansa e200 any more |
| 03:24:42 | advcomp2019 | LinuxMafia, are you booted into OF? |
| 03:24:50 | LinuxMafia | usb mode is in MSC mode i boot into the factory firmware but nothing shows up in dmesg |
| 03:24:56 | LinuxMafia | advcomp2019, yeah |
| 03:25:09 | LinuxMafia | advcomp2019, windows can see it |
| 03:25:25 | LinuxMafia | but not my linux , not any more 2 days now |
| 03:25:32 | advcomp2019 | what OF version are you using? |
| 03:25:47 | LinuxMafia | very old |
| 03:25:52 | LinuxMafia | let me check |
| 03:26:15 | LinuxMafia | 01.02.15a |
| 03:26:32 | LinuxMafia | have to update that? |
| 03:26:40 | LinuxMafia | dont know how |
| 03:26:55 | advcomp2019 | since have not ran into this issue i am not sure myself |
| 03:27:46 | allele | are arrays in rockbox are limited to two dimensions? |
| 03:27:50 | LinuxMafia | advcomp2019, just 2 days it is like that |
| 03:29:03 | LinuxMafia | advcomp2019, do you know how can i update the OF? |
| 03:30:07 | advcomp2019 | you update the OF.mi4 file in the system folder |
| 03:31:25 | LinuxMafia | oh thanks |
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| 03:52:21 | saratoga | allele: arrays can be many dimensional |
| 03:52:47 | saratoga | in c arrays are just linear segments of memory, so theres no difference between arrays of different dimension but identical total elements |
| 03:56:22 | allele | so if I'm given a warning about excess elements for a 3 dimensional array (50x60x3) I should be able to just split it into three 50x60 arrays without a problem, or do you think that would take up too much memory? |
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| 04:01:02 | saratoga | allele: what is the warning? |
| 04:02:57 | allele | not sure what it was specifically, but it was something along the lines of array contains excess elements |
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| 04:06:03 | saratoga | allele: c doesn't check the size of arrays, so I doubt it said that |
| 04:06:39 | saratoga | c will happily let you read element 1000 or -1000 from a 1 element array . . . |
| 04:07:43 | allele | fair enough, must be human error in there then hehe. I probably tried entering 4 elements into a cell or something |
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| 04:24:29 | Davide-NYC | My Gigabeat S just "imploded" again after trying to install an updates build. :-( |
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| 04:55:33 | Davide-NYC | I suspect it has something to do with the USB unmount in Windows. |
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| 05:00:50 | LinuxMafia | i need to format my sansa e200 |
| 05:01:01 | LinuxMafia | how can i do that? |
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| 05:10:24 | LinuxMafia | how can i format my sansa e200? |
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| 05:21:27 | advcomp2019 | LinuxMafia, you can use the sansa.fmt file while in recovery mode but you will need to reinstall the OF at the same time |
| 05:22:15 | LinuxMafia | advcomp2019, i cant get to recovery mode |
| 05:23:04 | LinuxMafia | i hold power button and rec button |
| 05:23:04 | advcomp2019 | so blue ring with black screen? |
| 05:23:08 | verdigris7 | Hi, I was going to upload a battery_bench.txt as discussed in the forum, but I think I need permission to edit the Twiki from IRC, can anyone help me out? |
| 05:23:26 | LinuxMafia | no rockbox shows up |
| 05:24:23 | advcomp2019 | LinuxMafia, you need to turn on the hold then hold rec then power |
| 05:24:35 | LinuxMafia | oh thanks |
| 05:24:36 | LinuxMafia | alot |
| 05:26:17 | advcomp2019 | verdigris7, what is your name? |
| 05:26:22 | verdigris7 | ElinorLim |
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| 05:28:59 | LinuxMafia | damn it still can not mount |
| 05:29:15 | DavidBraun | Hey guys. I just put a .wps together and I was hoping to upload it for the Sansa c200. Any chance I could get Wiki write permissions? |
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| 05:35:17 | DarkCampaigner | Hello? |
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| 05:35:49 | DarkCampaigner | Oh good. Hey guys, I just put together a .wps file for the Sansa C200, and I was wondering if I could get Wiki write permissions to upload it? |
| 05:35:50 | verdigris7 | Hi~ |
| 05:36:26 | advcomp2019 | DarkCampaigner and verdigris7, hold on |
| 05:36:41 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: yep, thanks |
| 05:37:02 | advcomp2019 | are you not going spam? |
| 05:37:25 | DarkCampaigner | I am not going to spam. (Avoiding double negative :P) |
| 05:38:04 | advcomp2019 | DarkCampaigner, what is your name? |
| 05:38:11 | DarkCampaigner | DavidBraun |
| 05:39:50 | advcomp2019 | i hope i did that right.. DarkCampaigner and verdigris7, you should be able to edit |
| 05:40:09 | DarkCampaigner | Alright. Thanks a bunch, advcomp2019. |
| 05:40:13 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: Thank you! I'll check if I can post now |
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| 05:54:10 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: Sorry, you seem busy but I'm not sure that I am uploading the file correctly onto the Twiki; I've read the guide but am a bit confused |
| 05:55:28 | advcomp2019 | verdigris7, yea it looks like part of a battery bench log to me |
| 05:56:24 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: Alright, thanks; it's just that the user above posted a lot of information and I was worried that I was breaking from the format |
| 05:57:30 | advcomp2019 | you might want to lay it out like how the user has it |
| 05:59:47 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: OK, thanks, I'm looking at how he has done it right now; would this code be how I would attach the document? [[%ATTACHURL%/battery_bench.txt][battery_bench.txt]] |
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| 06:02:31 | advcomp2019 | you could leave it the way you have it and someone else could but it the right now.. since i have not posted like that i am not sure |
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| 06:04:16 | verdigris7 | advcomp2019: OK, thanks for your help, I think I'll rename it and re-upload it and see what happens; re-reading the instructions has made me nervous that leaving it like that may overwrite the previous poster's benchmark |
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| 06:12:10 | DarkCampaigner | Well, thanks again for the help, advcomp2019. My wps is all uploaded. Good night everybody! |
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| 08:10:35 | amiconn | These audio codec inits are a whole mess |
| 08:11:13 | amiconn | Some use audiohw_preinit() and audiohw_postinit(), some use audiohw_enable_output() for all their inits and don't use the former at all |
| 08:11:30 | amiconn | This leads to several (and confusing) ifdefs in the pcm code |
| 08:12:05 | amiconn | Imo this should be unified. I think the preinit/postinit method should be the standard way, since it's more flexible |
| 08:13:24 | LinusN | i agree |
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| 08:14:12 | * | amiconn is looking into this because he wants to fix playback-after-recording for the ipods |
| 08:14:20 | LinusN | aha |
| 08:14:25 | LinusN | it is one of those "it works, just don't touch it" areas :-) |
| 08:14:29 | amiconn | The cause for this bug is obvious |
| 08:14:51 | amiconn | LinusN: Well, it might work, but it's currently fugly |
| 08:14:59 | LinusN | indeed |
| 08:15:08 | LinusN | it needs another round of refactoring |
| 08:15:17 | amiconn | yup |
| 08:15:54 | amiconn | I can fix WM8975 myself (the recording stuff; ipod G4, Color/Photo and Nano) and make it use preinit/postinit as well. |
| 08:16:14 | amiconn | For WM8758, it needs a dev with an ipod video to do it efficiently |
| 08:16:29 | amiconn | I could prepare something, but I cannot test it |
| 08:17:04 | LinusN | which reminds me, i wonder how my 5.5G is doing... :-) |
| 08:17:27 | amiconn | Nico_P should still have it |
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| 08:18:04 | amiconn | Btw, depending on the 3.0 release date, maybe we'll have to do a point release for Ondio |
| 08:18:43 | amiconn | The current MMC driver doesn't like Transcend 4GB MMCs; miner49er is sending me his card for testing & fixing |
| 08:22:02 | LinusN | hmm, interesting |
| 08:25:01 | amiconn | If you want to see the reason for broken playback after recording on ipods, check wm8975.c or wm8758.c: audiohw_disable_recording() |
| 08:25:24 | amiconn | It juts disables the whole audio codec... |
| 08:26:02 | amiconn | You'll also see that those drivers don't set the requested recording gain - audiohw_set_recvol() is empty |
| 08:32:16 | LinusN | badness |
| 08:34:34 | amiconn | Yeah, but the bug is in a relatively small portion of code. That's the good thing |
| 08:35:27 | * | amiconn thinks the fix should be simple enough to go into 3.0 |
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| 08:55:08 | * | amiconn thinks that rockboxdev.sh should be made more space conserving than it is now |
| 08:56:25 | B4gder | you mean space in the building dir etc? |
| 08:56:40 | amiconn | I.e. download binutils+gcc, then just untgz binutils, build binutils, install binutils, *remove binutils source tree + build dir*, and only then untgz gcc, build and install gcc |
| 08:57:10 | amiconn | Right now it keeps all temporary cruft until done with both components |
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| 08:57:22 | B4gder | the script was made like it is right now to easily allow you to manually fiddle with stuff in case it breaks |
| 08:57:33 | B4gder | that's why it even left things around after a build |
| 08:57:53 | amiconn | Well, it doesn't need to remove stuff when something fails |
| 08:57:57 | B4gder | but yes, we probably don't need it that way so it can very well delete things earlier |
| 08:58:05 | amiconn | But building binutils and gcc are reasonably separate |
| 08:58:12 | B4gder | yeps |
| 08:58:24 | amiconn | Once binutils went okay and are installed, the temp stuff can be removed |
| 08:58:40 | B4gder | but you're addressing a "problem" nobody even complained about |
| 08:58:48 | amiconn | Keeking everything around could cause problems on systems where /tmp is a separate volume |
| 08:59:05 | B4gder | if you don't have space for those build dirs you can hardly build rockbox anyway |
| 08:59:12 | amiconn | huh? |
| 08:59:36 | amiconn | Rockbox isn't built in /tmp |
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| 09:00:01 | B4gder | rockbox builds where you want it |
| 09:00:29 | B4gder | all I'm saying is that yes you're right but very very few has been hurt by this |
| 09:01:05 | amiconn | Probably |
| 09:01:24 | amiconn | But then being nice wrt disk space wouldn't hurt either |
| 09:01:40 | * | amiconn just noticed this because he's trying to build the mips toolchain on cygwin |
| 09:02:03 | amiconn | rockboxdev.sh is currently consuming 380MB in /tmp |
| 09:02:21 | * | B4gder doesn't build in /tmp... :-) |
| 09:03:39 | amiconn | That wasn't my point... |
| 09:04:24 | B4gder | I thought your point was that it uses more disk than necessary |
| 09:04:34 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:05:18 | amiconn | And it does also do that if you put the temp dirs elsewhere, just there instead of /tmp |
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| 09:06:00 | B4gder | of course |
| 09:06:10 | B4gder | but you don't need to convince anyone you know |
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| 09:11:14 | amiconn | Building the mips toolchain on cygwin took 1h 25 min here |
| 09:11:30 | B4gder | haha |
| 09:12:01 | B4gder | each toolchain takes < 10 minutes on my box, but the mips one failed the last time I tried |
| 09:12:09 | B4gder | on linux of course |
| 09:12:15 | amiconn | yes, sure |
| 09:12:29 | B4gder | 85 mins is still 8 times |
| 09:12:55 | flux | fortunately building toolchain isn't something you need to do all the time :) |
| 09:13:09 | B4gder | indeed! |
| 09:13:23 | amiconn | It's a known fact that cygwin is slow when it comes to thing that spawns processes like mad. But of course it also depends on the hardware |
| 09:14:05 | amiconn | A laptop hdd is always slower than a desktop hdd of about the same generation. Also, this is an old Pentium M |
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| 09:15:39 | amiconn | I doubt this laptop would build the toolchains in 10 minutes even when running linux natively. 30 mins would be more likely |
| 09:16:19 | * | amiconn rather arranges with the cygwin slowness than switching to native linux |
| 09:17:04 | * | petur is slowly arranging to run linux on his desktop and XP in a VM whenever he needs it... |
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| 09:59:05 | B4gder | so what's the general opinion about putting out a 3.0 release today or tomorrow? |
| 09:59:53 | petur | 9/9/8? |
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| 10:07:40 | pondlife | 10/9/8 is neater... |
| 10:07:56 | pondlife | ..but go for it.. |
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| 10:21:45 | pondlife | Here goes with some binsize madness... |
| 10:24:38 | JdGordon | pondlife: :) too bad the yanks wont get it :p |
| 10:24:45 | pondlife | ? |
| 10:24:56 | * | pondlife missed something |
| 10:24:57 | JdGordon | 10/9/8 |
| 10:24:58 | petur | 10/9/8 |
| 10:25:08 | petur | 9/10/8 |
| 10:25:14 | pondlife | Ah! Sorry, I thought you meant a smaller audio buffer! |
| 10:25:27 | pondlife | Everyone will get one of those shortly ;) |
| 10:25:33 | JdGordon | no, sorry, came a bit late to the previous convo :p |
| 10:25:46 | * | Nico_P is lost |
| 10:26:04 | * | JdGordon points Nico_P to the log before he entered |
| 10:26:27 | JdGordon | missed it by > < much |
| 10:26:33 | * | JdGordon agent 86 voice |
| 10:26:38 | * | B4gder suggest it wasn't that much to miss... :-) |
| 10:26:54 | Nico_P | ah, right :) |
| 10:27:22 | Nico_P | B4gder: what about adding some themes? was that idea dropped? |
| 10:27:38 | B4gder | nobody works on it so I don't see it happening |
| 10:29:36 | pondlife | Ahh, why didn't svn commit add new files?? |
| 10:29:54 | * | pondlife predicts lots of red |
| 10:30:00 | * | amiconn points B4gder to today's log (re the release) |
| 10:31:10 | pondlife | What properties should I set when adding files to SVN? |
| 10:31:24 | petur | same as the other files? |
| 10:31:41 | * | pondlife doesn't know how to find that.... will guess |
| 10:31:47 | Nico_P | eol-style |
| 10:31:51 | petur | eol style, author |
| 10:31:59 | Nico_P | keywords too |
| 10:32:19 | * | petur kicks his bad memory |
| 10:32:56 | pixelma | Id |
| 10:33:44 | * | pondlife can't work out svn propset.... |
| 10:33:52 | Nico_P | id is a keyword, and iirc author too |
| 10:34:08 | Nico_P | svn propset svn:eol-style native <file> |
| 10:34:09 | pondlife | "svn: Explicit target required ('apps/tdspeed.c' interpreted as prop value)" |
| 10:35:04 | Nico_P | you omitted the property value ("native" in my example) |
| 10:35:58 | pondlife | OK, files added, but properties not yet set... |
| 10:36:34 | pondlife | It doesn't seem to want to set properties on non-committed new files, but probably something I'm getting wrong. |
| 10:37:22 | Nico_P | have you svn-added them? |
| 10:37:28 | LinusN | amiconn: most bug fixes should go into 3.0 imho |
| 10:37:29 | pondlife | Yes, and committed |
| 10:38:02 | LinusN | even r18441/18442 methinks |
| 10:38:47 | B4gder | amiconn: sorry, I read the log but I don't get what you're referring to. What is your stance on release date? |
| 10:38:56 | pondlife | OK, that's working now - properties set and committed. |
| 10:40:11 | petur | LinusN: I'll try to get them in 3.0 tonight when time permits and nobody does it before me |
| 10:40:19 | LinusN | goodie |
| 10:40:20 | Nico_P | pondlife: the keywords are wrong... you need to lookup the value on existing files |
| 10:40:29 | pondlife | I did - I used tree.c |
| 10:41:03 | pondlife | I don't really understand what you mean though ;) |
| 10:41:07 | Nico_P | it really has svn:keywords set to "native"? |
| 10:41:23 | pondlife | No, I was copying your command |
| 10:42:15 | Nico_P | ah, then I didn't explain myself well enough. "native" in my example was to replace with the property value for other properties than svn:eol-style |
| 10:42:39 | pondlife | I was trying to duplicate this - http://pastebin.com/m2f36e3b |
| 10:43:17 | pondlife | Which appears to be what I have - http://pastebin.com/m7e945523 |
| 10:44:06 | Nico_P | svn:keywords is typically set to "Author Date Id Revision" |
| 10:44:08 | pondlife | Please can you teach this man to fish? |
| 10:44:49 | pondlife | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.advanced.props.special.keywords.html might help... I'll read |
| 10:45:01 | * | JdGordon thought that speed patch wasnt wanted? |
| 10:45:10 | pondlife | Who said that? |
| 10:45:18 | Nico_P | proplist only lists the set properties. the values also are of importance |
| 10:45:24 | pondlife | I've seen no objections... |
| 10:45:34 | JdGordon | must have been my imaginiatoin then :p |
| 10:46:17 | Nico_P | pondlife: you can use svn proplist -v to get property values too |
| 10:49:44 | amiconn | Or propget... |
| 10:50:26 | Nico_P | proplist is nice because it lists all the properties of a file |
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| 10:51:29 | * | amiconn wonders what happened to LinusN's speed adjustment idea for hwcodec... |
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| 10:51:46 | amiconn | whoa.. |
| 10:52:11 | amiconn | pondlife: Pls fix the speed patch asap. +32KB binsize on archos can't be right |
| 10:52:21 | petur | whoa indeed |
| 10:52:22 | pondlife | That's not right..! |
| 10:52:28 | pondlife | revert revert revert |
| 10:53:13 | pondlife | It shouldn't have affected MASCODEC at all... |
| 10:53:14 | amiconn | It's actually +2KB binsize (what for???) and +62KB ram usage |
| 10:54:05 | Nico_P | pondlife: you don't need to revert INHO |
| 10:54:09 | Nico_P | s/N/M |
| 10:54:13 | pondlife | Why? |
| 10:54:24 | pondlife | I don't have time to look into it now |
| 10:54:47 | pondlife | So, revert time, I think. |
| 10:54:58 | pondlife | I expected about +2K on SWCODEC only.. |
| 10:55:08 | Nico_P | I think we can afford a little instability in the trunk right now |
| 10:55:13 | * | B4gder agrees |
| 10:55:22 | B4gder | just fix it later |
| 10:55:30 | pondlife | Yes, but this isn't instability, it's madness |
| 10:55:36 | B4gder | :-) |
| 10:55:51 | amiconn | Code delta on swcodec is ~ +2KB, but it uses lots of extra ram |
| 10:55:57 | pondlife | If anyone else is prepared to work out what happened, then fine. Else I will revert. |
| 10:56:10 | pondlife | I may not have time to look into it until mid October |
| 10:56:13 | pondlife | :) |
| 10:56:24 | Nico_P | ah, right |
| 10:56:58 | * | amiconn thinks that something went fundamentally wrong there |
| 10:57:02 | * | Nico_P would love to take a look but time is a scarce resource :( |
| 10:57:10 | pondlife | My problem too |
| 10:57:24 | pondlife | Not caused by the keywords? |
| 10:57:34 | pondlife | I can fix them and see if it helps? |
| 10:58:58 | Nico_P | I doubt the keywords could cause anything to go wrong |
| 10:59:25 | Nico_P | unless there is "$native$" somewhere in the code |
| 10:59:31 | * | pondlife clutches at straws |
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| 11:00:55 | pondlife | OK, reverted - nothing to see here... |
| 11:01:01 | petur | SOURCES tdspeed should only be there for SWCODEC? |
| 11:01:08 | pondlife | Yes |
| 11:01:33 | pondlife | Still, that's a silly binsize change for all targets |
| 11:01:49 | * | pondlife suspects strongly his method of checking binsize is wrong |
| 11:02:17 | B4gder | rockbox-info.txt has the clues |
| 11:02:22 | pondlife | Ah! |
| 11:02:40 | Nico_P | pondlife: the delta also includes RAM usage |
| 11:02:56 | pondlife | Yes, that's what I missed |
| 11:02:58 | B4gder | yes, you need to hover on the delta numbers to see the exact numbers |
| 11:03:11 | pondlife | The good news is we're about to get a decent green delta . |
| 11:03:47 | pondlife | Hmm, 64k of RAM is too much to steal permanently.. |
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| 11:41:54 | JdGordon | big deal if its a big delta... its still a nice feature |
| 11:42:04 | JdGordon | and its just after release so its expected.... |
| 11:42:13 | pondlife | Yes, a 2k delta would be fine... 72k not so... :) |
| 11:42:29 | JdGordon | the 32k hwcodec delta is the only bad thing... |
| 11:42:57 | pondlife | The RAM needs to come from the audio buffer, i.e. only when enabled, I guess. |
| 11:42:58 | JdGordon | why is it so bad? big static buffers or something? |
| 11:43:28 | pondlife | Might need a config option for that, it would be annoying to have to reboot to set the speed from 100% to 102%.. |
| 11:44:02 | JdGordon | yes :p |
| 11:44:36 | gevaerts | Maybe we should really look into restart-less audiobuffer stealing |
| 11:44:55 | * | pondlife didn't whisper "malloc"... |
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| 11:45:13 | pondlife | A steal with no free should be doable |
| 11:45:39 | JdGordon | restartless yes, playback restartless no... |
| 11:45:53 | JdGordon | and we have that now anyway |
| 11:45:57 | pondlife | i.e. you can enable features on the fly, but a reboot is needed to get your buffer back after disabling |
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| 12:29:04 | mcuelenaere | wpyh (logs): I just thought of something which could ease NAND development: could you send/link me all .dl files you can find? (I'm trying to find any NAND functions and perhaps there is some nand_send_command() one) |
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| 12:38:49 | preglow | pondlife: was that bin size increase a surprise? if i remember correctly, that patch uses a rather large buffer |
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| 12:38:56 | preglow | pondlife: and that really can't be helped |
| 12:39:13 | pondlife | It was a surprise because I forgot about RAM use |
| 12:39:36 | pondlife | I think the buffer should be allocated from the main audio buffer on first use of timestretching. |
| 12:39:48 | preglow | well, time stretching needs a buffer, so either we need to allocate it dynamically via bufalloc (and require a reboot), or we need to just live with it |
| 12:39:49 | * | GodEater just received a "Panic: mount 0" message on his beast |
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| 12:40:13 | pondlife | bufalloc shouldn't need a reboot, just a rebuffer - I'd think... |
| 12:40:30 | preglow | hmm, no, i don't thiunk it works that way |
| 12:40:33 | preglow | i'd like it to, though |
| 12:40:41 | preglow | it's on my todo list, and will almost certainly never be done :) |
| 12:40:52 | preglow | but today: sd card on d2 |
| 12:40:57 | preglow | after this short break... |
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| 12:42:42 | pondlife | Just the man... ;) |
| 12:43:24 | pondlife | preglow: I agree - it should allow for allocations - just forcing a rebuffer. I don't know if it does or not though. |
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| 12:46:47 | directhex | i seem to have brokened my gigabeat. what's current flavour of the month for hard-disk-based player that can actually still be bought new? |
| 12:47:54 | mcuelenaere | sizeof(unsigned long) on ARM926 targets == 4, right? |
| 12:49:09 | GodEater | directhex: no Rockbox targets are available new |
| 12:49:24 | directhex | crapcakes |
| 12:49:27 | pondlife | That is the way of Rockbox, generally, sadly. |
| 12:49:34 | pondlife | Mmm, cake... |
| 12:49:51 | GodEater | mmm, beer |
| 12:51:23 | Nico_P | preglow, pondlife: you seem to be confusing buffer_alloc and bufalloc |
| 12:51:40 | directhex | sigh. given thr trouble i have with players, i can't get away with 2nd han |
| 12:51:41 | directhex | d |
| 12:51:43 | Nico_P | bufalloc allocates on the audio buffer and requires no reboot |
| 12:52:06 | pondlife | Does bufalloc work during playback? |
| 12:52:18 | pondlife | i.e. does it auto-rebuffer? |
| 12:52:36 | pondlife | Or does it cause white noise to be output, followed by a lockup? ;) |
| 12:53:08 | pondlife | I'm "merely" wanting to bufalloc when the timestretch is first enabled |
| 12:53:24 | pondlife | (which is likely during playback) |
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| 12:54:20 | pondlife | I thought bufalloc was unsafe after startup though it's been a while.... |
| 12:54:22 | Nico_P | pondlife: bufalloc works during playback, but I'm really not sure it's a good idea to use it for a "permanent" buffer |
| 12:54:32 | pondlife | Why not? |
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| 12:54:40 | Nico_P | pondlife: again, you're confusing with buffer_alloc |
| 12:54:45 | pondlife | This is rather like the thumbnail buffer |
| 12:55:15 | Nico_P | because the general use case for the buffering API is chunks of memory with limited lifespans |
| 12:55:33 | Nico_P | it could work, but it needs a bit of thought |
| 12:55:51 | pondlife | I thought that was the case. |
| 12:56:09 | Nico_P | buffer_alloc is the one that has to be used before playback starts |
| 12:56:15 | pondlife | Ah, ok |
| 12:56:24 | pondlife | I have them the wrong way round in my head ;) |
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| 12:57:41 | mcuelenaere | Nico_P: are there any examples using buffer_alloc() ? |
| 12:58:30 | Nico_P | mcuelenaere: yes, cuesheet support, IIRC also dircache |
| 12:58:47 | mcuelenaere | is some initialisation needed before you can use it? |
| 12:58:52 | Nico_P | and probably a couple others I don't remember |
| 12:59:02 | Nico_P | not much |
| 12:59:23 | mcuelenaere | not much? |
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| 13:00:24 | Nico_P | basically it works like malloc. you just need to call it at startup time |
| 13:00:38 | pondlife | So first bit of work is to make buffer_alloc() safe during playback (involving a forced rebuffer and probably stop/restart playback)... |
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| 13:01:40 | Nico_P | pondlife: I think it would be better to look at how crossfade toggling works |
| 13:02:34 | pondlife | Yes, similar, but a safer buffer_alloc() would be useful there too. |
| 13:02:50 | pondlife | I don't think that needs much memory though, relatively to timestretching |
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| 13:22:38 | mcuelenaere | Nico_P: I suppose there's no way to 'free' a buffer_alloc() handle? |
| 13:22:55 | Nico_P | no |
| 13:23:19 | Nico_P | the only way is to reboot |
| 13:30:51 | markun | should other buffers like the font buffer be allocated with buffer_alloc as well? |
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| 13:34:09 | Nico_P | markun: I think it's really meant for rather large buffers that are only used by optional features |
| 13:35:50 | markun | Nico_P: I could imagine people using japanese or chinese fonts might want to increase the size |
| 13:36:39 | Nico_P | true |
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| 13:43:18 | Tuplanolla | hello |
| 13:43:43 | Tuplanolla | does e200 with rockbox support microsdhc cards? |
| 13:43:55 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:43:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | It does, but only through Rockbox. |
| 13:44:00 | * | LambdaCalculus37 was too slow |
| 13:44:07 | Tuplanolla | yeah, thanks |
| 13:44:15 | Tuplanolla | gotta buy a 8gb one :) |
| 13:44:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Buy one, then. :P |
| 13:45:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | Buy a card reader, too. The card won't work in the OF, so you can transfer music to it with the card reader, then drop it into your Sansa afterwards. |
| 13:45:40 | Tuplanolla | ah yes |
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| 14:01:06 | PaulJam | hi, is it theoretically possible to poweroff the H300 while the charger is inserted (so it would immediately boot into the OF)? |
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| 14:05:10 | petur | PaulJam: no |
| 14:05:19 | petur | oh wait |
| 14:05:42 | petur | it would just boot again, so with V5 yes I think |
| 14:06:07 | petur | hmmm not sure it would actually try to power down |
| 14:06:20 | * | petur shuts up and points to LinusN |
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| 14:06:33 | * | LinusN ducks |
| 14:07:17 | * | GodEater wonders where LinusN went |
| 14:07:33 | LinusN | work, work ,work, family, work |
| 14:07:34 | PaulJam | well, jesterday my player just rebooted into the OF shortly after i inserted the charger, so i was wondering if it could have been a software issue or if it was a hardware issue. |
| 14:08:07 | petur | sounds like HW |
| 14:08:50 | Nico_P | LinusN: I'm taking good care of your ipod |
| 14:09:15 | * | petur dares not ask about his h120 |
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| 14:11:40 | LinusN | Nico_P: good |
| 14:11:49 | LinusN | petur: had no time this weekend.... :-( |
| 14:12:13 | petur | no worries |
| 14:14:12 | LinusN | gtg |
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| 14:22:41 | GodEater | it seems changing the volume names of the partitions on the beast is not to be advised |
| 14:23:49 | MarcGuay | GodEater: You're out to kill that thing, aren't you? |
| 14:24:22 | pondlife | BeastKiller... nice nick.. |
| 14:25:06 | GodEater | MarcGuay: not on purpose :( |
| 14:25:20 | * | GodEater rsyncs it again |
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| 14:27:00 | MarcGuay | I've been letting mine sit for a while. Honestly a bit afraid of mucking it up. How's the charging/spinning situation? |
| 14:27:48 | GodEater | don't know - I've not got that patch in mine currently |
| 14:27:52 | GodEater | I still charge in the OF |
| 14:29:35 | MarcGuay | If I could get Windows and VMWare to shake hands again I'd be more than happy to test it. For some reason after reinitalizing XP (motherboard died) I can't get them to link up anymore. Seems the virtual LAN disappeared. And now I'm off-topic. |
| 14:30:32 | GodEater | not really |
| 14:30:40 | GodEater | it boils down to your ability to test Rockbox ;) |
| 14:31:17 | * | GodEater still thinks a true linux install is the way forward mind you |
| 14:31:49 | * | petur hugs VirtualBox |
| 14:31:50 | MarcGuay | Should this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9375 person be redirected to the support channels? I hate when people piggyback problems on problems and don't really explain if the first one was fixed or not. |
| 14:35:27 | MarcGuay | Has anyone used Windows NetBeans to set up a Rockbox build environment? It seems to support Subversion and will compile C (using Cygwin?). http://subversion.netbeans.org/. I must admit to being a junkie for the GUI. |
| 14:36:54 | petur | something wrong with TortoiseSVN? |
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| 14:37:54 | MarcGuay | petur: Ah, I remember stumbling on it but not following through. It's a graphic build environment? |
| 14:37:58 | pondlife | MarcGuay: I had a similar-sounding issue a while ago. IIRC, reinstalling VMWare fixed it. |
| 14:38:08 | pondlife | i.e. all my LAN adapters vanished. |
| 14:38:26 | GodEater | pondlife: so again, install linux properly and stop being a wuss ;) |
| 14:38:34 | pondlife | GodEater may remember more than I do, I was stumbling in the dark somewhat |
| 14:38:48 | | Part stooo |
| 14:39:05 | GodEater | pondlife: remember? What? Who are you? This isn't my house... what am I doing here ? |
| 14:39:17 | pondlife | hehe |
| 14:39:31 | pondlife | Put yer clothes on and get out! |
| 14:39:34 | MarcGuay | pondlife: I was afraid that might be the solution. I guess any files I have on the virtual drive are unrecoverable then? |
| 14:39:35 | petur | MarcGuay: no, it is SVN shell integration.... I do not use/like much integration into an IDE |
| 14:40:00 | pondlife | MarcGuay: I don't know, the image was ok - it was something in the VMWare config itself. |
| 14:40:24 | pondlife | Although I reset the image a number of times during the experimentation, so I can't be sure. |
| 14:41:10 | * | GodEater wonders what use a graphical build environment is. You get to click a button to build instead of typing "make" ? |
| 14:42:46 | GodEater | is B4gder around today ? |
| 14:43:02 | B4gder | I am |
| 14:43:08 | * | GodEater withdraws the question remembering he promised not to pester |
| 14:43:15 | B4gder | haha |
| 14:43:15 | MarcGuay | GodEater: Something about having a file-tree on the same page as the code makes me happy. |
| 14:43:33 | GodEater | MarcGuay: you can get that from a lot of editors... |
| 14:46:20 | MarcGuay | GodEater: That's good to know, thanks. I'll look into it once I've reinstalled VMWare and/or pulled my hair out. |
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| 15:00:13 | MarcGuay | I had a french dude contact me with a bug on the ipod 5G. I suggested he report it himself but he didn't seem too keen on it so I thought I'd do it for him. Apparently after he enters and leaves the recording screen, the player can no longer play m4a/AAC files so he has to reset to continue. Any testers? |
| 15:00:42 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Congrats, chum. A note on the manual, the word "by" was missing from one of your sentences. |
| 15:01:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: Thanks! I saw your note; didn't have time to do the fix yet. |
| 15:01:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | By the way, that bug with entering and leaving the recording screen breaking playback on iPods is confirmed. |
| 15:01:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've had that happen to me, too. |
| 15:01:55 | Nico_P | MarcGuay: that's a known bug I think |
| 15:03:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: Have you gone through Flyspray? IIRC someone had mentioned it there. |
| 15:03:27 | Nico_P | it's due in 3.0 on FS |
| 15:04:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nico_P: What's the entry? |
| 15:04:20 | B4gder | btw, I've now put my two release-build-scripts on my 3.0RC page as well, in case someone else wants to play with them |
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| 15:05:18 | Nico_P | LambdaCalculus37, MarcGuay: FS #7402 |
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| 15:05:21 | linuxstb | MarcGuay: That's well-known, and I think amiconn is working on it - see the logs from earlier this morning |
| 15:06:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Reading them now. |
| 15:06:21 | Nico_P | B4gder: I get 403 forbidden on rockbox.org |
| 15:06:40 | * | linuxstb too - on the homepage |
| 15:06:56 | MarcGuay | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7402 |
| 15:07:17 | MarcGuay | Thanks, I sent him the link and hope he can read some english. :) |
| 15:07:38 | B4gder | ouch |
| 15:07:42 | * | LambdaCalculus37 also got 403 - forbidden |
| 15:07:59 | * | LambdaCalculus37 gives the server a little percussive maintenance |
| 15:09:41 | MarcGuay | Err. That guy reported the bug. Me = too slow. |
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| 15:11:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | The forums are working just fine. But the main site seems to have gone kaput again. :/ |
| 15:11:42 | B4gder | I shut it down |
| 15:11:46 | B4gder | wait |
| 15:11:59 | * | LambdaCalculus37 takes out a Slinky and plays with it while he waits |
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| 15:25:38 | B4gder | 15:08 my time, there was a helluva lot of 'rm -rf *' processes owned by the web server... |
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| 15:27:02 | kugel | rockbox.org down again? :( |
| 15:27:25 | B4gder | sometimes you just want to cry and go home |
| 15:28:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | Why the hell is the web server wiping itself? |
| 15:28:15 | B4gder | it doesn't |
| 15:28:21 | B4gder | someone found a way to insert the command |
| 15:28:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | :( |
| 15:28:43 | B4gder | and a little too much data was writable by the server user |
| 15:29:13 | * | LambdaCalculus37 hopes there's another backup |
| 15:29:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Maybe you guys should run the server with FreeBSD. |
| 15:29:46 | * | LambdaCalculus37 runs |
| 15:30:29 | Tuplanolla | uhm, does the e280v2 support msc or only mtp mode with usb? |
| 15:30:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | The e200v2 doesn't even work with Rockbox. |
| 15:31:20 | Tuplanolla | yeah, i know but is it only mtp? |
| 15:31:27 | B4gder | well, getting back a backup is useless if the person will wipe it again in 2 minutes |
| 15:31:32 | kugel | Tuplanolla: this channel is about rockbox |
| 15:31:48 | B4gder | ie we need to find the hole |
| 15:31:57 | Tuplanolla | kugel: ah, sorry, community then -> |
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| 15:47:32 | Gartral | whats wrong with the siye? |
| 15:47:44 | Gartral | site* |
| 15:49:09 | Mode | "#rockbox +o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 15:49:50 | Mode | "#rockbox -o B4gder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 15:50:00 | Gartral | is anyone else haveing trouble getting onto the website? |
| 15:50:09 | B4gder | it's currently taken offline |
| 15:50:30 | Gartral | ok, why? |
| 15:52:23 | B4gder | because someone thought it was fun to wipe out the site's contents |
| 15:52:47 | Gartral | -_- ohh... how fun |
| 15:52:49 | Nico_P | seriously, there was an intrusion? |
| 15:53:01 | Gartral | dude, sites down |
| 15:53:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | Nico_P: You didn't hear the announcement of "Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert!"? ;) |
| 15:53:18 | Gartral | Nico_P |
| 15:53:20 | Gartral | ** |
| 15:53:31 | B4gder | not really an intrusion but a bad enough command line ran |
| 15:54:22 | * | Gartral thuds his head on the table |
| 15:55:49 | GodEater | B4gder: how about a temporary page saying what's going on? |
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| 15:56:33 | B4gder | well, I'd rather not fire up the web server just yet |
| 15:56:40 | Gartral | ill do it |
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| 15:57:26 | Gartral | i can host right here, if someone is willing to give me a temporary site |
| 15:57:59 | GodEater | Gartral: that would mean repointing DNS too - more hassle |
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| 15:58:11 | Gartral | hmm |
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| 16:05:05 | * | Gartral sits and tinkers with themes- |
| 16:06:27 | gevaerts | B4gder: any chance that whoever did this had access to the build master ssh private key? |
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| 16:06:49 | B4gder | no |
| 16:07:02 | gevaerts | good |
| 16:07:04 | B4gder | all this was done with the web server's user and that doesn't have access to it |
| 16:07:22 | gevaerts | That would have been more serious |
| 16:07:28 | B4gder | yes |
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| 16:09:03 | pano | is rockbox.org down? |
| 16:09:07 | XavierGr | yes |
| 16:09:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Give it time to come back. |
| 16:09:32 | pano | well i can't do anything lse, right?^^ |
| 16:10:03 | pano | i just wanted to grab the source |
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| 16:11:51 | * | B4gder jumps |
| 16:12:01 | B4gder | whoa, now what is playing tricks on me? |
| 16:12:13 | pano | your mind?^^ |
| 16:12:14 | * | B4gder checks http://download.rockbox.org/ and gets a apache welcome page |
| 16:12:40 | * | LambdaCalculus37 checks but gets a filesystem listing |
| 16:12:49 | B4gder | one of the mirrors must be mad |
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| 16:12:55 | petur | somebody at the hosting company is reusing the server for something else? |
| 16:13:15 | Nibbler | nice .htaccess.... strange ppl out there :) |
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| 16:13:41 | pano | lets hope rockbox will be up soon |
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| 16:15:22 | scotty_007 | B4gder: apache? i get a listing of "/" created by lighttpd... strange |
| 16:15:34 | Gartral | apache |
| 16:15:42 | pano | Apache 2 Test Page |
| 16:15:42 | pano | powered by CentOS |
| 16:15:49 | B4gder | there are three servers using a round robin dns entry |
| 16:15:52 | pano | this is what i get to see |
| 16:15:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | I see "lighttpd/1.4.13" at the bottom of the page. |
| 16:16:15 | Gartral | same as pano |
| 16:17:52 | Gartral | http://build.rockbox.org/ <−− gives the main site |
| 16:18:04 | Gartral | i wasnt expecting it |
| 16:18:07 | B4gder | stay calm |
| 16:18:09 | Gartral | bt it worked |
| 16:18:12 | Gartral | lol |
| 16:18:21 | JdGordon | B4gder: the phrase is "Dont Panic" |
| 16:18:35 | scotty_007 | all 3 servers at the same time? may be apple or creative are involved? ;-) |
| 16:18:36 | B4gder | we have far too much visitors |
| 16:18:45 | B4gder | casually trying to browse the log is impossible |
| 16:18:46 | pondlife | JdGordon: "DON'T PANIC" you mean... |
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| 16:20:07 | Gartral | the forums are good |
| 16:20:32 | linuxstb | The forums are on a different server in a different continent |
| 16:21:04 | Gartral | ahh |
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| 16:21:36 | Gartral | wiki's botched completely |
| 16:21:50 | kugel | JdGordon: Are you fine again? |
| 16:22:07 | pano | flyspray is working! |
| 16:22:08 | JdGordon | yes, but too busy with uni for rockbox :( |
| 16:22:20 | JdGordon | unless you wanna do my assignemntes? |
| 16:22:25 | pano | hey are you THAT kugel?;-) |
| 16:22:29 | Gartral | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 16:22:37 | Gartral | works* |
| 16:22:45 | kugel | JdGordon: Of course! |
| 16:23:02 | svpe | is anyone currently still working on the 'new' creative zen using a flash as storage? i don't want to redo any work that's already been done :-) |
| 16:23:07 | kugel | pano: depends on which kugel you're referring to |
| 16:23:17 | pano | rockbox-lounge^^ |
| 16:23:25 | kugel | then yes |
| 16:23:29 | pano | ah^^ |
| 16:23:47 | B4gder | svpe: there's a forum thread for the creative zen work that probably is the best place to read up on recent work |
| 16:23:53 | pano | i was using your build, but recently started compiling my own |
| 16:23:55 | Gartral | mailing lists are working |
| 16:24:13 | B4gder | mailing lists are mail, not web ;-) |
| 16:24:23 | pano | i missed some patches^^ |
| 16:24:45 | Gartral | malinglist front page then :P |
| 16:25:28 | kugel | pano: sounds nice |
| 16:25:29 | svpe | B4gder: yea, i read it. didn't find any new posts since a couple of weeks so i was just going to ask in here if you knew about anyone still working on it. |
| 16:25:47 | kugel | pano: but anyway, custom builds are unsupported and thus off-topic here |
| 16:25:54 | pano | sry^^ |
| 16:25:59 | B4gder | svpe: afaik, they're undermanned with people actually working on stuff |
| 16:26:01 | pano | im pretty new to irc and stuff |
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| 16:26:45 | pano | i was asking myself if anyone is working on support for XM files |
| 16:27:23 | gevaerts | And what did you answer to yourself? |
| 16:27:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Site's up again. :) |
| 16:27:55 | Gartral | yay, you beat me too it |
| 16:28:16 | pano | and I did'nt have an answer^^ |
| 16:28:36 | svpe | B4gder: ok, i guess i'm going to start with the information in the wiki and the forum then and take a look at creative's firmware. :) |
| 16:28:47 | Gartral | so, just wondering, how long was the site down? |
| 16:29:03 | B4gder | almost 1:20 |
| 16:29:27 | soap | B4gder, did you get my PM the other day? |
| 16:29:30 | B4gder | which in my book is insanely short time |
| 16:29:43 | B4gder | soap: I did yes, but I haven't worked it in yet! |
| 16:29:49 | soap | no problem |
| 16:30:13 | scotty_007 | some pages are still down −−> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex −−> gives "Internal Server Error" |
| 16:30:25 | B4gder | twiki is not restored properly I think |
| 16:30:48 | Gartral | the wiki is completely down |
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| 16:31:11 | pondlife | IRC logs for 2nd-6th Sept are gone too... |
| 16:31:23 | Gartral | hmm |
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| 16:38:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Crap. :( |
| 16:39:05 | * | dionoea has IRC logs if needed |
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| 16:39:39 | B4gder | thanks, but I think I'll get them back in a while |
| 16:41:27 | MarcGuay | soap: Any luck opening your c100? Was the reason to open it to find out what version/model it is? |
| 16:41:50 | soap | MarcGuay, I've been busy - remind me in 8-10 hours and I'll do it. |
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| 16:42:58 | MarcGuay | soap: I was just going to suggest that if the only reason you want to crack it open is to find out what version it is, you could just apply that patch that was in the tracker for a bit and if the NAND ID is 0000, it's a Triflash. |
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| 16:45:16 | MarcGuay | this one, to be specific: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9096. I had a test-patch before that checked the Triflash and returned a inited state that I think would confirm that it's of that type as well but I'm having trouble with my VM so it'll have to wait. |
| 16:46:17 | kugel | gevaerts: I guess you read my mail, but you didn't answer |
| 16:46:56 | gevaerts | kugel: indeed. I still need to do that :) |
| 16:51:21 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Have any time to look over the telechips Triflash stuff? |
| 16:52:14 | gevaerts | kugel: I'm not too sure about pictureflow, as I've never used it and I have no idea what it should do. How serious are the bugs? |
| 16:53:12 | * | pondlife wishes that FlySpray had the Patches subdivided into "Patches - New Features" and "Patches - Bug Fixes".... |
| 16:53:17 | kugel | well, as serious as bugs in plugins can be, I guess |
| 16:53:41 | kugel | you can read through the task, it's explained there |
| 16:53:51 | gevaerts | I mean, does it display wrong things in corner cases, or does it crash the player in normal usage? |
| 16:54:03 | kugel | committing the bug fixes would close a couple of but reports at ince |
| 16:54:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: I haven't had a chance to. |
| 16:54:14 | kugel | no, it doesn't crash |
| 16:54:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've been trying to iron out some more stuff in the manual. |
| 16:55:22 | gevaerts | Can some people quickly look at the latest patch in FS #8641 ? It looks obviously correct to me, and as it fixes a freeze I think it should go into 3.0 |
| 16:55:55 | scotty_007 | gevaerts: there are two non-critical bugs in PF that are fixed as part of FS #8335. in v10 they are separated |
| 16:57:21 | kugel | scotty_007: but the zoom menu is still misstitled |
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| 16:58:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: I have no objections to the patch. |
| 16:58:21 | kugel | also, I consider tracklist being dependant on fps/album title shown in terms of height and position as a bugfix too |
| 16:58:27 | gevaerts | I'd rather not commit non-crash fixes to 3.0 right now |
| 16:58:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | How about to the regular trunk, then? |
| 16:59:11 | kugel | gevaerts: and I'd rather not keep known bugs in the release if a fix is available and tested |
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| 16:59:50 | kugel | I don't understand why you fear about fixing bugs for the release |
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| 17:00:05 | gevaerts | kugel: you may be right, but while I feel confident about the doom fix I don't feel as confident about the pictureflow fixes, and I don't have time to look very hard into it |
| 17:00:25 | B4gder | because committing something that makes it unstable now would be rather contra productive |
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| 17:00:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: If you want, why not test the fixes? If you think anything is wrong with them, then try fixing them and posting a new version of the patch. |
| 17:00:56 | gevaerts | So if someone else who knows pictureflow well thinks those fixes are obviously correct, I won't oppose committing them, but I won't do it |
| 17:01:01 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: As i already mentioned, the fixes are tested |
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| 17:01:29 | * | gevaerts will commit the doom one though |
| 17:01:48 | kugel | If you like to, I seperate the new features and the bugs, make a new task for the bug fixes only and you could look into that one |
| 17:01:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: All yours. :) |
| 17:02:19 | * | LambdaCalculus37 can't access SVN from work, anyway |
| 17:03:08 | gevaerts | kugel: the point is, we want to release soon, within the next 48 hours (or 24 preferably). That means _nothing_ goes in unless we're really sure that it doesn't introduce new bugs. |
| 17:03:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Did you give FS #8641 a test? |
| 17:03:27 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: yes |
| 17:03:29 | kugel | it works |
| 17:03:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay. |
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| 17:04:39 | kugel | gevaerts: But again, the bug fixes are tested, I can say for sure that they don't introduce new bugs |
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| 17:06:34 | kugel | gevaerts: I'd say commit pf_album_title_v10.fixes.diff + fix the misstitled zoom menu (a really trivial fix) |
| 17:06:38 | gevaerts | kugel: I won't commit bugfixes to 3.0 if I don't fully understand them. It's as simple as that |
| 17:07:11 | kugel | Ok, then release with known bugs reported like ages ago |
| 17:07:45 | kugel | I fully understand them, but I understand that you don't trust me |
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| 17:10:12 | gevaerts | kugel: if you want the fixes in, I'd suggest asking a committer who actually knows the code, like Nico_P (he seems to have done most commits on it) |
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| 17:10:52 | kugel | Nico_P: :) |
| 17:11:14 | Nico_P | I might have a little time to commit the bugfixes this evening |
| 17:11:26 | Nico_P | just those though |
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| 17:14:00 | hansebenger | hello together ;) |
| 17:14:13 | gevaerts | Now I have a new problem. The patch in FS #8641 was suggested by jhMikeS, but the actual patch file was uploaded by someone else. This is a one liner patch. Do I update CREDITS or not? |
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| 17:15:57 | kugel | Nico_P: I'd like to change the config struct in pf (so that the fps setting is actually a setting and kept). But a settings struct in pf means that the user needs to delete the pf folder. Is this ok? If yes, I'd change the settings struct further (for upcoming features), so that the pf folder doesn't need to be delete once more when the features go in |
| 17:15:59 | * | gevaerts decides not, as jhMikeS actually literally said what the line should be |
| 17:16:54 | hansebenger | is here a channel for the sansa player's ? or all in one chat window? |
| 17:17:07 | B4gder | hansebenger: one big happy channel! |
| 17:17:28 | hansebenger | ok thx ;) and sorry for my english ^^ |
| 17:17:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | This channel is for Rockbox. |
| 17:17:45 | hansebenger | ah ok thanks |
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| 17:21:40 | pixelma | pictureflow has another minor flow on c200 due to PLA - you can't go downwards through the track list of an album, pressing the down button just exits the list. Not a major thing, it wouldn't be a reason to disable it on c200 for me. |
| 17:21:58 | pixelma | eh... it has a *flaw... |
| 17:22:38 | * | gevaerts plays games on his c200 |
| 17:22:54 | scotty_007 | pixelma: that's a known bug (FS #9331) and a fix is ready |
| 17:23:43 | pixelma | I'd rather see PLA removed there |
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| 17:27:40 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: do you want a list of plugins that don't have a manual entry, or is that out of scope for your planned fixes? |
| 17:28:31 | scotty_007 | kugel: working on FS #8335 ATM? |
| 17:28:41 | kugel | scotty_007: yea |
| 17:28:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Sure, send me a list. |
| 17:29:06 | kugel | scotty_007: should I include 9331? |
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| 17:29:10 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: ok. I don't have it yet, but I will have one later |
| 17:29:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Okay. |
| 17:29:45 | scotty_007 | kugel: has ist's own task and should stay there, I think |
| 17:30:02 | scotty_007 | kugel there's a compiler warnig |
| 17:30:10 | kugel | ? |
| 17:30:26 | scotty_007 | kugel: (not when compiling the sim, but for arm) |
| 17:30:41 | kugel | which patch? |
| 17:31:45 | MarcGuay | gevaerts, LambdaCalculus37: The ManualToDo page could use some attention. It would at least be a good place to put that list. |
| 17:32:11 | gevaerts | MarcGuay: ok. As good a place as any |
| 17:32:19 | scotty_007 | kugel: FS #8335. the warning can be avoided by making the "album_name_bottom" case in the switch statement in line 1816 the default |
| 17:32:50 | MarcGuay | Err, wiki is down, forgotted. |
| 17:33:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: I almost forgot we had that page. :P |
| 17:33:24 | kugel | scotty_007: the album title will not be part of the bug fix version |
| 17:34:28 | scotty_007 | kugel: yeah, but if you are working on the patch, you could fix this also. or I could upload a version 11.1 |
| 17:35:08 | kugel | what is the warning specifically? |
| 17:35:29 | scotty_007 | kugel: ‘height’ may be used uninitialized in this function |
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| 17:35:51 | scotty_007 | but it never will, because all three options are in the cases |
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| 17:36:00 | kugel | well, that doesn't sound like making one case default is a real fix |
| 17:36:07 | scotty_007 | kugel: just bad style, sorry |
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| 17:36:42 | scotty_007 | kugel: but there's no warning anymore |
| 17:37:38 | kugel | initializing height with LCD_HEIGHT sounds better to me |
| 17:37:54 | kugel | but I don't care |
| 17:38:10 | kugel | if you make it default, then add a comment |
| 17:43:17 | pixelma | scotty_007: personal opinion though - I don't think adding an exception there is the "correct" fix and I wouldn't want to see it in the (development) trunk. Maybe it could go into the release branch as a quick solution if it doesn't break other things or other targets (doesn't look like it but I'm always a bit skeptical when it comes to plugin button actions... :\ |
| 17:45:34 | * | kugel wonders why pf is only for color targets, and not all targets supporting album art |
| 17:45:41 | hansebenger | any new news for the sansa e260v2 ;) ? |
| 17:45:56 | kugel | hansebenger: follow the forum thread |
| 17:46:07 | kugel | everything new will be there first |
| 17:46:42 | hansebenger | in the forum thread one people says that it's easyer to talk about it in the irc so sry ;) |
| 17:47:05 | scotty_007 | pixelma: it's done the same way for SCROLLWHEEL targets |
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| 17:48:22 | pixelma | what good will exceptions, another exception and exceptions of exceptions bring? |
| 17:49:36 | gevaerts | hansebenger: easier to talk about development, not to ask about status... |
| 17:50:02 | hansebenger | ok you are right ;) |
| 17:50:28 | hansebenger | im just interessted in that stuff and just want to hear good news ^^ |
| 17:50:45 | GodEater | we don't keep secrets here and not post them in the forums you know |
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| 17:51:41 | hansebenger | of cause not ... but developing is verry interessting, too |
| 17:51:46 | GodEater | the only time you'd hear it here first is if you were here at the *exact* moment something happened. The forum thread would be updated moments later. |
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| 17:52:29 | hansebenger | ^^ |
| 17:52:48 | hansebenger | is here anyone from germany exact me btw? |
| 17:52:51 | B4gder | well, the rare dances from developer joy tend to only appear here ;-) |
| 17:53:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | As well as all of the celebration beer drinking. ;) |
| 17:53:17 | svpe | hansebenger: yea, i'm from germany too. i don't think that really belong to here though :) |
| 17:53:26 | svpe | *belongs |
| 17:53:48 | dionoea | anyone object to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9368 ? |
| 17:54:04 | hansebenger | right i just thaught about more people from germany so it's easyer to understand this stuff ;) |
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| 17:56:01 | kugel | hansebenger: on www.rockbox-lounge.com you'll find more german rockbox'ers. But lets stop off topic chat |
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| 17:58:54 | pixelma | dionoea: I thought I read that kugel had some problems with a WPS and this patch in his build (not sure though) |
| 17:59:10 | dionoea | ah, I must have missed that |
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| 18:01:13 | kugel | dionoea: Well, it fixed itself by a svn up |
| 18:01:26 | kugel | I have no idea why, but the wps are working now |
| 18:01:27 | dionoea | weird :/ |
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| 18:03:42 | * | linuxstb suspects the problems on the beast are simply that the filesystem is not FAT, but TFAT |
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| 18:08:41 | Daniel16 | hy |
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| 18:09:53 | Daniel17 | Hy |
| 18:10:12 | domonoky | hm,is the wiki down ? |
| 18:10:58 | Daniel17 | I own an iaudi7, how can I install rockbox on it? I don´t know how to handle a diff... |
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| 18:11:49 | domonoky | Daniel17: then, you have to wait a bit longer.. iaudio7 isnt ready for non-developer use, i think.. |
| 18:11:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | Daniel17: The iAudio7 port is still too early in development for everyday use. |
| 18:12:50 | Daniel17 | I know, but I would give it a try... |
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| 18:15:33 | amiconn | kugel: It is because nobody bothered porting pictureflow to greyscale |
| 18:15:34 | Daniel17 | I found this page http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9245 , may I could help with bug tracing! |
| 18:15:57 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: I just put a list of issues for c200 on FS #9376, including manual issues |
| 18:16:08 | amiconn | Just using core bmp support would probably look ugly, 'cause that just does ordered dither to 2bpp |
| 18:16:18 | kugel | amiconn: Of course, that's always a reason |
| 18:16:47 | linuxstb | Daniel17: You don't need a diff any more - it's committed to Rockbox SVN. If you want, you build it like any other Rockbox target (select iaudio 7 from the configure menu), and then transfer it to your device using tcctool. The Rockbox wiki has lots of instructions for compiling Rockbox, and there's also a page specifically for the iaudio 7. |
| 18:17:05 | amiconn | So it'd require using the greylib, and hence writing a bmp loader for plugins that converts to 8bpp as needed by the greylib |
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| 18:18:11 | Daniel17 | yes, thanks! I haven´t tried this before...is it possible, that the wiki is down? |
| 18:18:37 | gevaerts | spacerocks definitely needs to be either fixed or disabled on at least c200. It reliably crashes within a minute. |
| 18:18:50 | amiconn | eh? |
| 18:20:33 | gevaerts | I just press up to accelerate, and after a while it freezes, sometimes with lcd corruption (random noise, would make a nice demo) |
| 18:20:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Does Pacbox even work on the c200? |
| 18:20:55 | gevaerts | It doesn't seem to be included |
| 18:21:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's listed in the c200 manual, but there's no keymap defined. |
| 18:21:32 | gevaerts | Indeed. I need to add that to my list of issues |
| 18:22:22 | gevaerts | My spacerocks could be FS #8926 |
| 18:22:23 | amiconn | I don't think pacbox makes sense on the c200. The screen is too small |
| 18:22:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: It's not in the plugin list on the c200, so it has to be excluded from the c200 manual. |
| 18:23:28 | amiconn | yep |
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| 18:24:02 | * | linuxstb wonders if *someone* could do something clever with apps/plugins/SOURCES and apps/plugins/SUBDIRS to automagically include things correctly in the manual |
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| 18:26:14 | MarcGuay | Daniel17: Yes, the wiki is broken at the moment. |
| 18:28:27 | Daniel17 | When do you think is it possible to use rockbox with iaudio7 stable? |
| 18:28:41 | linuxstb | When all the problems are solved... |
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| 18:34:45 | gevaerts | Any opinions on which player I should try next to find unusable plugins? |
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| 18:35:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | How about the Gigabeat S? |
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| 18:35:58 | gevaerts | Not in 3.0 |
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| 18:37:06 | bertrik | I consider md5sum plugin basically unuseable, by default it md5s the entire disk which takes very long (>10min) and is not interruptable |
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| 18:37:48 | * | gevaerts agrees |
| 18:37:51 | funman | kugel: so you got a fuze ? |
| 18:37:52 | PaulJam | bertrik: there is a patch at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9209 |
| 18:38:02 | kugel | funman: yes |
| 18:38:13 | funman | nice :) |
| 18:38:46 | funman | did you look a bit more at the differences between the other firmwares and yours ? |
| 18:38:49 | gevaerts | bertrik: maybe I (or you) should just remove it from SOURCES in 3.0. If someone disagrees I'm sure we'll hear the shouting |
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| 18:39:26 | kugel | funman: apparently there's a difference because amsinfo fails, the header is the same though |
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| 18:40:10 | funman | did you try adding some sanity checks before using printf("%s",somewhere_in_the_file); ? |
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| 18:40:55 | kugel | funman: i think the padding of the library blocks is different |
| 18:41:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Regarding the manual entry for disktidy: should I mention that the settings are stored in .rockbox/rocks/apps/disktidy.config, in case people want to modify the file to add more system garbage files? |
| 18:41:47 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: can't files added with the gui too? |
| 18:42:06 | funman | kugel: in the beginning I assumed padding blocks were filled with 0xff or 0xdeadbeef but now it seems some are filled with random values |
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| 18:42:24 | funman | maybe an evolution of the software they use to generate firmwares ? |
| 18:43:30 | gevaerts | dionoea: any objections to disabling md5sum for 3.0? |
| 18:43:36 | kugel | funman: a library block is always 0x200? |
| 18:43:44 | kugel | +big |
| 18:43:53 | funman | no it's bigger |
| 18:43:59 | funman | the size is specified in the header |
| 18:44:07 | kugel | yea, i mean the header |
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| 18:44:24 | funman | you can also use (end_address - start_address) |
| 18:44:25 | kugel | the header is 0x200 big? padded with something? |
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| 18:44:42 | funman | the library header is 0x1c bytes iirc |
| 18:44:57 | funman | but the size is variable since there is a tab of function pointers |
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| 18:45:54 | kugel | the wiki information of the firmware format regarding the library headers and blocks could be somewhat extended |
| 18:46:02 | funman | yes it needs an update :/ |
| 18:46:14 | dionoea | gevaerts: no. Feel free to do so (in trunk too) |
| 18:46:14 | funman | the forum thread has more infos |
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| 18:46:39 | funman | did you take a look at the ext.c file I posted ? |
| 18:47:25 | funman | show_lib() analyzes a library block |
| 18:47:43 | gevaerts | dionoea: I'll leave it in trunk for now. I mainly want to clean up the release right now |
| 18:47:50 | dionoea | oki |
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| 18:48:00 | dionoea | funman: congrats on the 2nd brick! |
| 18:48:39 | kugel | funman: I've read through the whole thread twice, but it gets confusing at some point, since gpio tests and firmware disassembly is parallel then |
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| 18:49:40 | funman | dionoea: I have a brand new one clip in the hands |
| 18:49:47 | kugel | funman: how to compile it? just gcc ext.c -o ext? |
| 18:49:59 | funman | kugel: yes |
| 18:50:07 | funman | kugel: feel free to ask me details |
| 18:50:08 | dionoea | funman: you should buy a pack of those :) |
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| 18:51:11 | jeroen- | hi folks |
| 18:51:20 | dionoea | btw, does sansa accept broken clips if you send it back for repair/replacement? |
| 18:51:26 | jeroen- | maybe you know allready, but did you know your wiki is broken? |
| 18:51:53 | jeroen- | the Rockbox Utility should be on there |
| 18:51:56 | kugel | funman: output looks promising |
| 18:51:57 | dionoea | jeroen-: yes, the webserver had some issues today and it's not completely fixed |
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| 18:52:07 | amiconn | bertrik: 10 min is very long? /me needs to try md5sum on archos... |
| 18:52:09 | funman | dionoea: the shop just replaced my not functional clip without questions |
| 18:52:16 | dionoea | nice of them :) |
| 18:52:21 | jeroen- | dionoea: can I download the Rockbox Utility somewhere else? |
| 18:52:45 | dionoea | jeroen-: http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/ maybe. I'm not sure if it's up to date though |
| 18:52:49 | * | gevaerts just managed to crash metronome on H120 |
| 18:53:10 | jeroen- | 2008-Jul-06 |
| 18:53:31 | jeroen- | dionoea: is the date of the most recent linux version |
| 18:53:33 | funman | kugel: do you have a test for gpio ? |
| 18:53:49 | gevaerts | jeroen-: 1.0.6 is the latest |
| 18:53:52 | domonoky | yes thats the palce where the rbutil-binarys are. just use the newest one (1.0.6) |
| 18:53:53 | bertrik | amiconn, I never waited any longer than about 10 minutes, I estimate an md5 throughput on e200 of about 1 MB/s, so more like > 1 hr for 4 GB |
| 18:54:02 | jeroen- | gevaerts: yes thats the one |
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| 18:54:23 | kugel | funman: no, not yet |
| 18:54:46 | funman | I can give you one if you want, I have a collection :) |
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| 18:55:07 | kugel | funman: also, I'm not entirely sure how to do that (I haven't done such things before ever, but I'm willing to risk the player) |
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| 18:55:22 | * | domonoky thinks that our new theme site wont be ready for 3.0, right ? so should i disable the theme installing in rbutil temporary ? |
| 18:56:07 | jeroen- | must I first unmount my ipod |
| 18:56:24 | jeroen- | it says 'could not open ipod' |
| 18:56:37 | domonoky | jeroen-: no, but it needs root rights.. |
| 18:56:41 | kugel | funman: the tools give some 100-1000 unknown files |
| 18:56:41 | jeroen- | ah |
| 18:56:50 | jeroen- | is that save? |
| 18:57:17 | domonoky | jeroen-: to be exact, it needs raw disc access.. so you could also change the permissions in the syste |
| 18:57:25 | funman | kugel: changing the firmware is easy as copying a file specially named on the partition |
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| 18:57:44 | funman | kugel: first of all you should look if you can access a hardware recovery mode, like in the e200 model |
| 18:57:48 | jeroen- | domonoky: so changing the permisson of /dev/etc |
| 18:58:00 | funman | (yes there can be a lot of unknown blocks, just rm unknown*) |
| 18:58:08 | kugel | funman: ok, then I'll open it and look for 2 pins near the nand, correct? |
| 18:58:17 | funman | well no |
| 18:58:49 | funman | finding the right pins can be complex, and you can short pins directly on the nand, it's faster and 100% effective and safe |
| 18:59:03 | domonoky | jeroen-: i think the right way would be to add your user to the right user-group... but i dont really know how todo this, as i develop rbutil on windows :-) |
| 18:59:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Here? |
| 18:59:16 | funman | as long as you contact the right ones: there is 2 groups of 8 consecutive pins you can short on one side of the nand |
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| 18:59:25 | funman | and each side has 24 pins connected, let me find the schema |
| 18:59:44 | domonoky | jeroen-: so the easiest is just to run it as root. |
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| 19:00:01 | jeroen- | yes I understand |
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| 19:00:11 | pixelma | gevaerts: it crashes on h100? I'm a bit surprised because AFAIK the developer writing the last big update for it develops on a H100... also - metronome has issues with the controls on the Player and Ondio too |
| 19:00:26 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: yes, as you can see ;) |
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| 19:00:43 | gevaerts | pixelma: it crashes on h100 and h300 if you tap very fast. |
| 19:00:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: If you have your Ondio nearby, can you start a game of Chopper and tell me which button controls the chopper? |
| 19:00:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'm writing a manual entry for it. |
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| 19:01:09 | gevaerts | pixelma: does it even build on player and ondio? According to SOURCES it's SWCODEC |
| 19:01:29 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: Up and Mode (off the top of my head) |
| 19:01:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Thanks. |
| 19:01:48 | pixelma | gevaerts: ? I enabled it again once... |
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| 19:02:23 | pixelma | it's just excluded from the hwcodec target sims |
| 19:02:32 | funman | http://www.s1mp3.org/images/mem_chip.png it's 2 groups of 4 pins |
| 19:02:45 | funman | you can also short we and wp if you're precise |
| 19:03:00 | funman | or ce (9 & 10) |
| 19:03:05 | pixelma | gevaerts: and it is in a current Ondio build |
| 19:03:35 | jeroen- | yeah works :-) |
| 19:03:49 | jeroen- | themes cant be downloaded |
| 19:04:15 | kugel | so, if I short the 2x4 group pings, which would work? |
| 19:04:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | Does Chopper build on the m:robe? |
| 19:04:29 | kugel | anyway, I first need to find a way to open this damn thing :) |
| 19:04:53 | domonoky | jeroen-: jup, thats known (we are working on a replacement theme site).. use the WPS gallery in the wiki for additional Themes .. |
| 19:04:56 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: m:robe100? |
| 19:05:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yes. |
| 19:05:58 | pixelma | can't see a reason it wouldn't - and it is in a current m:robe100 build... ;) |
| 19:07:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Just making sure. ;) |
| 19:07:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wants to be safe rather than sorry |
| 19:07:31 | kugel | Nico_P: I've prepared a pf patch |
| 19:07:52 | funman | kugel: just short 2 of them, and plug it on the usb (device off) while being sure of your shorting (might need some attempts) |
| 19:08:04 | funman | then the OS will detect a new usb device, different from the normal one |
| 19:08:08 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: you can quickly look into the builds yourself |
| 19:08:22 | funman | look in the dmesg output to know the size, if it's not 512 bytes but some MB, you have hardware recovery |
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| 19:08:40 | kugel | I still fail at opening |
| 19:09:22 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: speaking of making sure - I remembered correctly about the chopper controls on Ondio |
| 19:09:29 | pixelma | just gave it a try |
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| 19:09:45 | funman | kugel: chainsaw |
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| 19:10:33 | funman | did you look at anythingbutipod ? |
| 19:10:37 | kugel | yea |
| 19:11:04 | kugel | it says "pry open and pop the clips", nothing specific but using pure violence |
| 19:11:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: All right, I just added the Ondio controls into the chopper manual entry. |
| 19:11:39 | funman | if you use incremental force, chances are that you only break the plastic case |
| 19:12:00 | * | kugel wants his screws back |
| 19:12:33 | funman | just use a knife and see how much you can open it with the same force, you should see where are the clips |
| 19:13:40 | kugel | i know where the clips are |
| 19:13:59 | funman | hit it hard :) |
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| 19:14:32 | funman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/44596/ < button test code with a delay |
| 19:14:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:15:09 | funman | you can try the gpiod pin7 as output (it's the led on e200 and clip) but no warrany it doesn't break the device |
| 19:15:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Regarding FS #8376, what's wrong with the clock plugin's manual entry? |
| 19:17:15 | kugel | meh, that was not good, now it's taken some visible damage |
| 19:18:03 | * | LambdaCalculus37 also notices that Jackpot is still Player-only, but the plugin is in terrible shape on other platforms |
| 19:18:35 | funman | science will thank you :) |
| 19:18:51 | funman | I'm going out, you can highlight me for when I'm back |
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| 19:20:51 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: maybe it should have stayed Player only |
| 19:21:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I agree. |
| 19:21:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Until we can build a better version for other targets, we should revert it back to being Player-only. |
| 19:21:33 | kugel | funman: got it! |
| 19:21:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's very slow, there's no proper keymapping, and it's hard to exit once you launch it. |
| 19:22:08 | funman | the recovery ? (in fact I transfer some music to my new sansa before leaving) |
| 19:22:56 | kugel | no, I opened it |
| 19:24:08 | Nico_P | kugel: where can I get the patch? |
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| 19:25:51 | kugel | Nico_P: http://pastebin.ca/1197376 |
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| 19:28:40 | kugel | Nico_P: it fixes: misstitled zoom entry, fps setting not saved, fps overlapping tracklist, tracklist not refreshing on and tracklist missing 1 song |
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| 19:30:24 | Nico_P | kugel: thanks |
| 19:31:29 | kugel | Nico_P: but it also includes unrelated changes to the settings struct, as I already mentioned some hours ago. This is isn't a functional change, but saves a deletion of the pf folder when the features of FS #8335 come in |
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| 19:35:18 | pixelma | this reminds me of another pf bug: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9135 |
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| 19:36:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Yes, I had mentioned that one once before. |
| 19:37:16 | gevaerts | pixelma: the logic expression parser in my brain seems broken. It is indeed included |
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| 19:39:13 | pixelma | hope you can fix it soonish :) - but that exclusion from hwcodec target sims is not easy to read (not my invention) |
| 19:39:20 | kugel | funman: I've successfully opened it now and can look at the NAND |
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| 19:43:27 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: have a look at the c200 manual for clock : the buttons are not filled in properly |
| 19:44:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Okay, I'll fix that up. |
| 19:44:14 | kugel | funman: Any advice on how to bridge them properly? |
| 19:44:27 | gevaerts | pixelma: do you know of any other targets than c200, player and ondio where the metronome buttons are broken? |
| 19:44:39 | mcuelenaere | svpe: you're interested in porting the Creative ZEN? |
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| 19:46:15 | svpe | mcuelenaere: yes |
| 19:46:24 | pixelma | gevaerts: no, but I am not sure. I think I tried on my M5 and the controls worked as expected but that's a while ago already. |
| 19:46:28 | mcuelenaere | svpe: what experience do you have? |
| 19:46:46 | gevaerts | ok. I'll start by disabling it for those then |
| 19:47:11 | svpe | mcuelenaere: C and arm assembler/reversing should be the relevant parts :) |
| 19:47:22 | mcuelenaere | good :) |
| 19:47:29 | mcuelenaere | what do you already know about the ZEN? |
| 19:47:34 | mcuelenaere | or about the Creative firmware part? |
| 19:47:40 | mcuelenaere | have you read the CreativeZVMPort wiki page? |
| 19:47:48 | mcuelenaere | brb |
| 19:47:51 | pixelma | petur: did you read amiconn's comment regarding the plugin API last night? |
| 19:48:05 | petur | pixelma: no |
| 19:48:48 | pixelma | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080907#22:59:45 |
| 19:49:43 | petur | hmmm so I should have upped the version nr |
| 19:50:01 | petur | that teaches us exporting that whole struct in one blob |
| 19:50:33 | svpe | mcuelenaere: i just managed to decrypt the firmware using zen_utils yet. didn't have time to actually take a look at it yet. and no, i didn't read the ZVMPort page (yet). |
| 19:50:54 | kugel | funman: ping.... |
| 19:51:04 | gevaerts | Bagder: I get an internal server error on http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-3.0RC/buildall.pl.txt |
| 19:51:48 | * | amiconn would have done r18451 slightly different |
| 19:51:59 | amiconn | (not really important) |
| 19:52:49 | mcuelenaere | svpe: good, you know there are Linux sources for a similar SoC as the Creative ZEN? |
| 19:52:50 | gevaerts | amiconn: -1 on the next line? |
| 19:53:28 | amiconn | yep |
| 19:53:32 | kugel | Nico_P: The patch was meant for 3.0 |
| 19:53:33 | mcuelenaere | svpe: btw, you won't need to really worry about the 'firmware packaging', as mkzenboot is designed to be multi-target friendly |
| 19:54:05 | Nico_P | kugel: yes, I'll be committing it there as soon as I get the build table results |
| 19:54:06 | mcuelenaere | svpe: if you use IDA, I believe there's a plugin loader available for it |
| 19:54:08 | Bagder | gevaerts: I renamed the scripts and now they should work |
| 19:54:15 | mcuelenaere | (which parses the structure correctly) |
| 19:54:20 | kugel | also, anyone should close the tasks fixed by the patch |
| 19:54:27 | gevaerts | Bagder: thanks |
| 19:54:32 | Nico_P | kugel: which ones are those? |
| 19:55:01 | svpe | mcuelenaere: hm.. i already wrote my own small loader to get the firmware loaded. and i think i saw the link to the linux sources. |
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| 19:55:22 | mcuelenaere | svpe: could you give the sources for that? (pastebin?) |
| 19:55:39 | mcuelenaere | and you say 'to get the fw loaded', how far did you get? |
| 19:56:06 | mcuelenaere | ah sorry, misunderstood you |
| 19:56:15 | mcuelenaere | I thought you meant to get the fw loaded on the player |
| 19:56:17 | svpe | oh, to get the fw loaded = loaded it to IDA |
| 19:56:51 | mcuelenaere | but anyway, could you give sources for it? (it's always handy to know if you improved the current version) |
| 19:57:10 | kugel | Nico_P: Ah, they already have been closed |
| 19:57:18 | Nico_P | alright |
| 19:57:31 | Nico_P | I've committed to 3.0 too now |
| 19:57:33 | kugel | Nico_P: but this one isn't present anymore http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8306 |
| 19:57:38 | mcuelenaere | svpe: if you have any (other) questions, ask me (I'm the ZVM guy) |
| 19:57:58 | svpe | uhm.. it's a dirty hack in idapython that doesn't actually parse the file, so i doubt that i improved anything, heh |
| 19:58:00 | kugel | ahh nevermind |
| 19:58:04 | kugel | I got the task wrong |
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| 19:58:27 | kugel | even though the guy says it has been fixed |
| 19:58:28 | mcuelenaere | ahh I didn't know about the existance of IDApython.. |
| 19:58:39 | amiconn | This cfs thing on zvm looks just weird... |
| 19:59:09 | amiconn | mcuelenaere: Perhaps you could make the driver a little faster by using bitshifts instead of /64, %64 and *64 |
| 19:59:12 | Nico_P | kugel: do you think I should close FS #8306 ? |
| 19:59:40 | mcuelenaere | amiconn: it isn't optimized yet |
| 19:59:45 | mcuelenaere | actually, it isn't even tested |
| 19:59:48 | Nico_P | amiconn: doesn't the compiler take care of that? |
| 19:59:48 | amiconn | Even if the compiler picks this possible optimisation, it'll add correction code for signed operation |
| 19:59:49 | scotty_007 | kugel, Nico_P: the patch from the pastebin seems to smash the tracklist if there are more tracks than visible |
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| 20:00:00 | svpe | i'm going to take a look at the fw and the ZVM stuff this we and i'll pm you with any questions :-) |
| 20:00:22 | scotty_007 | kugel, Nico_P: (seen in ipodcolor-sim) |
| 20:00:33 | Nico_P | :( |
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| 20:00:37 | kugel | scotty_007: ? |
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| 20:00:47 | kugel | what do you mean by smash? |
| 20:01:02 | kugel | it moves it down depending on the fps setting, that's all I've changed |
| 20:01:08 | mcuelenaere | svpe: http://www.mediafire.com/?kwt1asozvrg (ZenLDR = IDA loader; equals the one from the wiki) |
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| 20:01:31 | amiconn | Ah, no, the involved variables are unsigned. |
| 20:01:35 | scotty_007 | kugel, Nico_P: the tracklist is empty |
| 20:01:59 | mcuelenaere | amiconn: does that mean bitshift doesn't optimize stuff? |
| 20:02:01 | svpe | thanks, i'll take a look at it |
| 20:02:06 | amiconn | Anyway, imho it's better to explicitly tell the compiler what you want instead of relying on automatic optimisation (in such cases) |
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| 20:02:22 | kugel | scotty_007: it's not. my 20 songs album shows 15 at the same time, and is working as expected |
| 20:02:38 | amiconn | mcuelenaere: It might or might not, depending on whether gcc found this possible optimisation itself |
| 20:03:16 | mcuelenaere | svpe: if you get to the part where you want to upload a firmware to the device, either use CreativeWizard (Windows only), use mkzenboot or write a tool yourself |
| 20:03:18 | amiconn | It certainly won't make things worse |
| 20:03:33 | kugel | scotty_007: are you sure your database is properly initialized? It's working for me |
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| 20:03:57 | mcuelenaere | amiconn: do you see anything else that could make the code not work? (stack overflow, ... ?) |
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| 20:04:03 | mcuelenaere | because I tested it briefly and it didn't work |
| 20:04:10 | svpe | i guess i'll use mkzenboot then. don't have a windows machine around and don't really want to rewrite something that already exists and works :) |
| 20:04:18 | mcuelenaere | it hanged at printf("CFS start is at 0x%x",..); |
| 20:04:43 | mcuelenaere | svpe: mkzenboot will make a full fw package though |
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| 20:04:48 | kugel | Nico_P: I don't know what scotty_007 is talking about, it's working |
| 20:04:52 | mcuelenaere | perhaps you should use zenutils (forgot to mention that) |
| 20:04:55 | gevaerts | Can people try spacerocks on various players? It crashes after a while on c200, there's a bug report about e200, but I don't know about others |
| 20:05:23 | svpe | ah well, i guess i have time to think about that when i actually have something useful i can upload to the player. |
| 20:05:55 | gevaerts | I have a vague suspicion that it will crash more easily on smaller screens |
| 20:06:30 | funman | kugel: flat screwdriver |
| 20:07:16 | scotty_007 | if i have more tracks than track to show, <titletxt_y> in show_track_list() increases endlessly |
| 20:08:35 | kugel | scotty_007: only once, it's outside of the for-loop |
| 20:08:44 | kugel | have you actually tried it? |
| 20:08:52 | scotty_007 | kugel: compiling a version for my real device to check it there.... |
| 20:09:13 | scotty_007 | kugel: as said: seen iin the ipodcolor-sim |
| 20:10:05 | pixelma | gevaerts: will try |
| 20:10:25 | kugel | funman: do I need to have the scrollwheel and LCD connected to test it? |
| 20:11:32 | pixelma | gevaerts: I also remembered that I get crashes of ZXBox after some seconds on my M5 only and only when sound is enabled, I'm not sure if it's a coldfire or a greylib thing) |
| 20:11:35 | kugel | scotty_007: I tested on the e200 sim |
| 20:11:40 | pixelma | gevaerts: or both |
| 20:13:24 | gevaerts | pixelma: I'll test on h100 and x5 |
| 20:13:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma and gevaerts: I'll also test on c200. |
| 20:14:17 | * | LambdaCalculus37 is unsure of the working status of zxbox on the c200 |
| 20:14:33 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: well I didn't get this crash on my c200 but the sound wasn't recognisable - on M5 it was |
| 20:14:43 | amiconn | Maybe it's a voice thing? |
| 20:14:58 | amiconn | pixelma: Did you try this with voice enabled on the M5? |
| 20:15:23 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: it works but you need something with big graphics or you already have the program set up right |
| 20:15:50 | pixelma | amiconn: I think I tried with and without and both crashed (it's been a while though) |
| 20:16:16 | funman | kugel: lcd yes, the return value is the fact the OF boots immediately or with a delay |
| 20:16:41 | pixelma | gevaerts: I can't get spacerocks to crash on my M5 or on Ondio, on my c200 I could |
| 20:17:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Crashes here, too. |
| 20:17:53 | * | gevaerts adds some notes to FS #9376 |
| 20:17:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | On mine, the plugin just halts. |
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| 20:19:33 | kugel | scotty_007: works on my ipodcolor sim too |
| 20:20:31 | scotty_007 | kugel: if you have more than 12 tracks with standard settings? |
| 20:20:39 | kugel | yes |
| 20:20:42 | pixelma | amiconn: just tried ZXBox again on my M5 without voice but with sound enabled and it crashes after a few seconds (I remember that the time until crash differs slightly but doesn't take too long) |
| 20:20:43 | kugel | i have 20 tracks |
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| 20:20:55 | scotty_007 | kugel: I have the same error on my iPodColor device |
| 20:21:38 | kugel | you want a screen shot showing the list? |
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| 20:21:54 | kugel | have you tried different albums? |
| 20:22:42 | scotty_007 | kugel: yip, works as long as i have less than 13 tracks. i will try it again with a fresh source... |
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| 20:25:28 | * | amiconn wonders about this strange svn activity phenomenon |
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| 20:29:30 | petur | amiconn? |
| 20:30:13 | amiconn | Well, the feature freeze was meant for bugfixing and manual work. But during the freeze, svn activity was relatively low |
| 20:30:40 | amiconn | And today, quite a while after end of freeze all of a sudden there's high bugfixing activity |
| 20:31:02 | * | gevaerts only wanted to disable obviously broken plugins |
| 20:31:31 | petur | btw, what was the 3.0 branch svn address? |
| 20:32:01 | gevaerts | svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_0 |
| 20:32:22 | petur | thnx |
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| 20:35:34 | kugel | funman: damnit, I can't insert the scrollwheel cable back in |
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| 20:37:51 | funman | be careful not use too much force, but if it came out it will go in again |
| 20:39:18 | kugel | it's rather short, and the plastic case is kinda blocking |
| 20:39:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Before I commit some of the new manual work I did during my lunch break, I'm going to post it to FS #9376, so you can take a look through some of it. |
| 20:39:38 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: ok |
| 20:39:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | Actually, scratch that. I'll pastebin it instead. |
| 20:40:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | I'll do that when I get home tonight. |
| 20:40:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now that I think of it, it'll be easier. ;) |
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| 20:45:31 | pixelma | gevaerts: I'd prefer if ZXBox was not disabled because of that, just make sure that sound is disabled by default and document it |
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| 20:45:53 | gevaerts | pixelma: I haven't tested yet, but I agree |
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| 20:51:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I agree as well. Disabling it outright won't help, but disabling sound by default is a much more logical solution. |
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| 20:51:46 | gevaerts | But we need to find out on what players it happens first |
| 20:53:42 | gevaerts | pixelma: can you remember which tape image you used? |
| 20:55:02 | pixelma | urgh, the sound option is there on Ondio as well and touching it immediately lead to an "I06: IllSltIn at 091C7A10" though it doesn't make me wonder... |
| 20:56:10 | pixelma | gevaerts: I tried with a few, last one was "Full Throttle", downloaded from worldofspectrum |
| 20:56:29 | gevaerts | ok. I'll try that one as well |
| 20:57:46 | pixelma | happens on all that I tried |
| 20:57:48 | scotty_007 | kugel: tried the fixes with a fresh r18450 and r18453 and still have the same issue with the pf-tracklist. sorry, but i'm very late now and have to leave. maybe i can go into this later... |
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| 20:59:18 | pixelma | gevaerts: if you try on H100, you probably need that paper clip... |
| 20:59:38 | MarcGuay | pondlife: You were right, a quick reinstall (or "repair", actually) of VMware saved the day. Thankfully my files were maintained as well. Thanks for the tip. |
| 20:59:43 | gevaerts | pixelma: I already have that anyway because of the metronome bug |
| 20:59:58 | pixelma | good :) |
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| 21:00:50 | tucoz | hello |
| 21:00:57 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Have you got that manual fix I pointed out all ready to go or shall I take care of it now? |
| 21:02:28 | tucoz | Is it possible to try out the wps-editor somehow? |
| 21:02:59 | pixelma | hi tucoz, do we need an Archos rec screen shot too? I could make one because I think it is only possible on the device... |
| 21:03:30 | tucoz | pixelma: ah. is that while recording screen updated as well? |
| 21:03:52 | pixelma | sure, it has gone "user font" too :) |
| 21:04:11 | tucoz | jeez |
| 21:05:21 | domonoky | tucoz: you can try the wps editor, if you compile it your self.. no binarys available at moment. |
| 21:05:38 | tucoz | domonoky: oh, great. is it commited to svn? |
| 21:06:09 | pixelma | tucoz: I just realised that I could only provide half of it because the WRS shows the time in the status bar on devices with RTC... |
| 21:06:10 | domonoky | tucoz: yes, its under utils/wpseditor. |
| 21:06:30 | tucoz | thanks. i'll try that |
| 21:06:32 | gevaerts | pixelma: it's not greylib. My X5L freezes as well |
| 21:07:10 | domonoky | tucoz: but its still in early development. Any help welcome :-) |
| 21:07:16 | pixelma | gevaerts: interesting |
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| 21:08:18 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: didn't you have a Recorder V1 as well? |
| 21:08:25 | tucoz | pixelma: it is possible to take screenshots on the archoses, using the sim. Just like the rest of the targets |
| 21:08:44 | tucoz | simply hit f5, and the dump will end up in the archos dir |
| 21:08:49 | pixelma | of the rec screen? Need to try... |
| 21:09:01 | tucoz | sure. i just tried |
| 21:09:05 | helloo | Hi; is the current build derived from the branch (ver3.0) or Trunk ? |
| 21:09:19 | petur | trunk |
| 21:09:21 | funman | kugel: success ? |
| 21:09:30 | helloo | thanks |
| 21:09:30 | kugel | not yet |
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| 21:09:53 | funman | maybe a night of sleep can fix that, don't hurry ;) |
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| 21:10:15 | pixelma | tucoz: ah, I see. For some reason I thought that the WRS wasn't simulated on those sims. Do you take care of it then? |
| 21:11:00 | tucoz | pixelma: yes. i'll do that. but i don't think i'll update all the other screens for the archoses |
| 21:11:38 | tucoz | if that is necessary that is |
| 21:11:48 | pixelma | nice... which screens do you mean? |
| 21:11:51 | funman | i'll continue the bootloader, see you |
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| 21:12:27 | tucoz | pixelma: not sure. you said that the recorders have user font now. |
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| 21:13:08 | pixelma | the recording screen |
| 21:13:25 | tucoz | ok. great :) less work is nice |
| 21:13:39 | tucoz | especially in the screenshot department |
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| 21:14:40 | pixelma | ah, and the default theme cabbiev2 uses a slightly different font too (rockfont) but I don't think it is necessary to update menu screenshots of them because of that |
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| 21:15:00 | gevaerts | Interesting... Spacerocks just crashed my ipod video |
| 21:15:34 | * | gevaerts starts wondering if we have fully working plugins |
| 21:15:37 | tucoz | pixelma: i take your word on that. we could leave that for 3.1 |
| 21:16:34 | pixelma | gevaerts: a portalplayer issue then maybe? |
| 21:16:52 | petur | gevaerts: rocks can crash many things ;) |
| 21:17:16 | gevaerts | pixelma: could be. I had to leave it for a while though, so maybe others have the same issue |
| 21:17:33 | gevaerts | petur: they shouldn't crash a box full of them! |
| 21:17:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Yes, I do. |
| 21:18:19 | gevaerts | Now my F20... |
| 21:18:23 | pixelma | gevaerts: are you sure that it wasn't "idle poweroff" kicking in then? I think I noticed oddities when that happens while a plugin was running |
| 21:18:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: If you'd like to take care of it, go for it. I can't do it right now as I have no SVN access. |
| 21:18:33 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: neverming |
| 21:18:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | Well, no access from work, anyway. |
| 21:18:41 | pixelma | nevermind |
| 21:18:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: My F10 as well. |
| 21:18:59 | gevaerts | pixelma: it wasn't that long |
| 21:19:05 | * | LambdaCalculus37 doesn't have his iPod color with him right now, either. |
| 21:19:23 | * | shotofadds just had spacerocks throw a stkov panic on his d2 (after 5 mins or so of play)... |
| 21:19:46 | tucoz | pixelma: looks like f5 doesn't work on the ondiofm-sim |
| 21:19:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | shotofadds: That's longer than my c200. After ~15 seconds, spacerocks hard locked. |
| 21:19:52 | * | gevaerts tries again on his X5 |
| 21:20:44 | pixelma | I'll try again too - do I need to start it or does it also happen in the start screen? |
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| 21:21:23 | gevaerts | On the ipod I wasn't actively playing. It was waiting for me to start a new game |
| 21:21:42 | shotofadds | pixelma: it's just crashed after 10 seconds in the start screen... |
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| 21:22:31 | pixelma | tucoz: works for me in an OndioFM sim |
| 21:22:43 | gevaerts | I'm pretty sure it's broken on arm. The question is if it works properly on coldfire |
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| 21:23:19 | tucoz | pixelma: ok. could you commit that screenshot then? |
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| 21:24:31 | gevaerts | The release notes are somewhere on the wiki, right ? |
| 21:24:54 | fml | dionoea: I've just put a comment to FS #9368. Any comments? Has this been thought about? |
| 21:25:11 | amiconn | gevaerts: It also freezes on ipod photo |
| 21:25:28 | amiconn | (in the starting screen, when doing nothing for about 10..15 seconds) |
| 21:25:44 | kugel | fu |
| 21:25:50 | kugel | wrong key |
| 21:25:57 | kugel | funman: I think I succeeded |
| 21:26:05 | gevaerts | So it clearly needs to be disabled for all ARMs. I now have it running on my coldfires, let's wait and see... |
| 21:26:07 | tucoz | pixelma: i commited the 112x64x1.png screenshot now to 3.0 and trunk |
| 21:26:12 | pixelma | tucoz: interesting effect - it doesn't work when the source is set to "line in" and so the lower part needs more space than on the screen |
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| 21:26:52 | fml | Re FS #8894 (which was reverted but still): IMHO a very important comment was missing telling what the setting (sound_speed) means, i.e. which units it uses etc. And I also think that it's a playback setting rather than a sound setting. |
| 21:26:55 | amiconn | gevaerts: Doesn't seem to crash on mini though |
| 21:27:07 | pixelma | tucoz: when the list needs a scrollbar |
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| 21:27:57 | dionoea | fml: replied |
| 21:28:05 | fml | FS #8894 also has no manual entry which should prevent it from being committed (gevaerts ;-) |
| 21:28:11 | pixelma | tucoz: which explains why you Recorder screenshot worked |
| 21:28:15 | pixelma | *your |
| 21:28:16 | tucoz | pixelma: a bug in the screenshot function perhaps |
| 21:28:31 | gevaerts | amiconn: I played for more than 5 minutes on my F20 earlier without problems the first time. When I tried again it crashed after 5 seconds |
| 21:28:47 | pixelma | tucoz: probably |
| 21:28:57 | * | gevaerts spots another bug on coldfire |
| 21:29:03 | amiconn | tucoz: The screenshot function is very low level, and doesn't know about scroll bars and such things |
| 21:29:21 | amiconn | gevaerts: I suspect the problem is arm in conjunction with colour screen |
| 21:29:25 | * | LambdaCalculus37 gets out the bug spray |
| 21:29:49 | amiconn | It froze on H10 as well |
| 21:29:58 | pixelma | amiconn: it is a really odd effect though, what would you suspect then? |
| 21:30:02 | fml | Is notifying broken in FlySpray? An entry is shown as being watched by me but I got no mail when a comment was added. |
| 21:30:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | This spacerocks bug is much more serious than we thought. |
| 21:30:20 | * | amiconn isn't even sure what the exact effect is |
| 21:30:24 | gevaerts | amiconn: FS #8926 seems to be about this |
| 21:30:50 | pixelma | fml: seems to be broken for some people, works for me though for example |
| 21:31:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: It worked on your M5, right? |
| 21:31:37 | pixelma | spacerocks? So far it did |
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| 21:32:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Damn, I didn't bring my 2G iPod with me today. :/ |
| 21:32:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wonders if this bug is only on color targets, and most likely it is |
| 21:32:34 | fml | dionoea: ah, yes. I didn't know that all the settings are listed in the manual. And I agree that the names are quite stable (but not necessarily the meaning and values :-). |
| 21:32:56 | dionoea | hehe ... maybe :) |
| 21:33:37 | amiconn | fml: Check your notification settings. I had the same problem |
| 21:34:20 | fml | dionoea: the debug idea is a case for a general task: in the debug mode, the wps checker should also tell exactly what's wrong. IIRC now it just tells Ok/Nok. |
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| 21:35:27 | fml | amiconn: thanks! That's it! |
| 21:35:52 | fml | Now somebody has to comment on a task I watch to test it :-) |
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| 21:36:57 | Amokrentner_ | ellow |
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| 21:38:03 | gevaerts | amiconn: I've seen strange rocks on both h320 and h120. Pictures from h320 at gevaerts/rocks1.jpg">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/rocks1.jpg and http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/rocks2.jpg |
| 21:38:27 | amiconn | oooh, funny |
| 21:38:42 | dionoea | fml: telling you what's wrong adds extra complexity to the code |
| 21:38:43 | * | amiconn hasn't seen such strange rocks yet though |
| 21:38:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Abstract art, gevaerts? ;) |
| 21:39:20 | * | amiconn suspects some out-of-bounds access |
| 21:39:37 | * | gevaerts thinks that spacerocks is too buggy for release on all targets |
| 21:39:54 | amiconn | Btw, the ondio sim crashes when started via gdb, and that crash *includes* gdb (on cygwin) |
| 21:41:16 | markun | gevaerts: metronome also doesn't work on the gigabeat, right? |
| 21:41:23 | gevaerts | Those funny rocks are unstable by the way. The lines jump between different points while rotating |
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| 21:41:43 | domonoky | quantum rocks :-) |
| 21:42:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: metronome works on my F. |
| 21:42:08 | markun | we need anti-aliasing line drawing ;) |
| 21:42:08 | gevaerts | markun: it does work |
| 21:42:12 | maha | quantum ? |
| 21:42:16 | markun | ah, ok. Then it got fixed |
| 21:42:52 | gevaerts | Any objections against disabling spacerocks entirely for the release? |
| 21:43:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | None here. |
| 21:43:25 | amiconn | ugh. That segfault also happens in other sims |
| 21:44:33 | * | amiconn suspects cygwin gdb |
| 21:51:36 | * | gevaerts makes the 3.0 download a bit smaller |
| 21:51:40 | fml | dionoea: in the debug mode only of course. Then the debug mode will really be useful. |
| 21:54:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: A wise move. :) |
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| 22:05:58 | MarcGuay_ | Stupid question: What's difference between context_list and context_tree? |
| 22:07:23 | MarcGuay_ | Also, does #ifdef HAVE_VOLUME_IN_LIST serve any purpose in the Gigabeast keymap if it's a given that it will have this set to true? |
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| 22:08:58 | * | kugel just bricked his fuze :S |
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| 22:09:38 | MarcGuay_ | v2 owners just need some mortar and they can build a house. |
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| 22:27:42 | kugel | well, I had bad luck in taking my Fuze apart |
| 22:34:22 | gevaerts | pixelma: is there already a flyspray entry about the zxbox freeze? |
| 22:40:13 | pixelma | I don't think so (if no-one else than me had found and reported it). Somehow I had forgotten until earlier today |
| 22:41:13 | jeroen- | I am in a plugin called chess clock, but it says 'restart round' 'Time OUT!' - I can't get out of this screen anymore |
| 22:41:25 | gevaerts | I can't really reproduce it reliably (I managed once on H120 and once on X5), so I think I'll leave the filing to you |
| 22:41:29 | gevaerts | jeroen-: what player? |
| 22:41:35 | jeroen- | ipod g5 |
| 22:42:12 | jeroen- | select+menu does nothing |
| 22:42:26 | jeroen- | ah I'm out |
| 22:42:33 | jeroen- | reboot |
| 22:43:36 | jeroen- | I like to remove unneeded plugins - can I just delete the .rock files or is there another option? |
| 22:43:52 | gevaerts | that's the best way |
| 22:43:56 | jeroen- | ok |
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| 22:44:01 | * | gevaerts is now also stuck in chessclock |
| 22:44:15 | jeroen- | menu+select a long time |
| 22:44:28 | NIelsEE | hi, does anyone has a link for the rockbox utility for windows? the rockbox site seems to be down for a while.. |
| 22:44:41 | gevaerts | well, yes, but there should be another way |
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| 22:45:48 | gevaerts | NielsE: http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/ |
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| 22:46:11 | pixelma | gevaerts, jeroen-: the code says that the Play button is quit |
| 22:46:13 | NielsE | gevaerts: thanks |
| 22:46:21 | jeroen- | pixelma: yes, but diodnt work |
| 22:46:34 | gevaerts | usb plugin also does nothing |
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| 22:46:52 | jeroen- | unfortunaly the wiki is down just the moment I need it :-( |
| 22:47:27 | gevaerts | jeroen-: whenever the wiki is down we're less strict about what questions we're willing to answer ;) |
| 22:47:50 | jeroen- | gevaerts: mmm you don't what you are saying ;-) |
| 22:48:18 | * | gevaerts did say "less strict", not "extremely tolerant" :) |
| 22:48:30 | jeroen- | gevaerts: is there a way to load wikipedia on rockbox? |
| 22:49:26 | gevaerts | jeroen-: there is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755 |
| 22:49:59 | jeroen- | ok great |
| 22:50:07 | pixelma | gevaerts: "Play" doesn't work? It seems to in an Ipod Video sim *shrug* |
| 22:50:24 | gevaerts | pixelma: I suspect it's frozen actually |
| 22:51:03 | jeroen- | gevaerts: just one question: I don't see a viewer menu under plugins, but when I look with my file manager it is there under .rockbox/Rocks |
| 22:51:12 | pixelma | seems you were right with your question earlier... :\ |
| 22:51:35 | gevaerts | jeroen-: viewers don't appear in the menu |
| 22:51:46 | jeroen- | ah ok |
| 22:51:59 | jeroen- | they are associated |
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| 22:55:04 | NielsE | is the themes-server out? upon installing it gives me an error |
| 22:55:33 | gevaerts | yes, it's down |
| 22:55:36 | domonoky | NielsE: jup, people are working on new theme site. |
| 22:55:43 | NielsE | oh, thats cool |
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| 23:03:47 | gevaerts | chessclock is definitely buggy. I now have a frozen gigabeat, ipod video, ipod mini, h120 and ajb |
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| 23:11:04 | * | gevaerts decides to stop trying out plugins. They all turn out to be buggy |
| 23:11:27 | jeroen- | is there a way to set the root directory of the rockbox file manager - so it won't intervene with the original apple files? |
| 23:11:59 | gevaerts | No |
| 23:12:07 | jeroen- | ok |
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| 23:18:40 | Bagder | now gimme another commit! |
| 23:18:53 | Bagder | we need to see a new build server do its job... |
| 23:19:03 | gevaerts | I don't dare touch anything anymore... |
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| 23:21:27 | * | gevaerts thinks that reporting two freeze bugs and one "normal" one is enough for one evening |
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| 23:21:31 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/09/08/a-bad-move-a-really-bad-move/ |
| 23:21:39 | * | Bagder hangs his head in shame |
| 23:23:27 | gevaerts | Bagder: did the first "attack" come from 195.144.*.* ? |
| 23:23:28 | dionoea | hehe :) |
| 23:24:31 | * | gevaerts tried to download that file immediately after Bagder announced that it was there |
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| 23:25:36 | chris2255 | hey did somebody know if you can edit the tag of the mp3s on the rockbox |
| 23:25:37 | chris2255 | ? |
| 23:25:46 | n1s | no |
| 23:26:27 | * | gevaerts reads that question again. Should he answer "yes" or "no" ? |
| 23:27:02 | dionoea | depends how far in the past you look back |
| 23:27:09 | chris2255 | thanks |
| 23:27:18 | n1s | true, "yes" somebody knows, "no" you can't |
| 23:28:35 | linuxstb | Bagder: What caused Apache to think it was a script? |
| 23:28:52 | Bagder | I have ".pl" allowed as a cgi script |
| 23:29:05 | Unhelpful | but the file was not ".pl" :/ |
| 23:29:16 | gevaerts | It was probably .pl in the .txt language |
| 23:29:30 | Bagder | clearly .pl enough... |
| 23:29:43 | Unhelpful | gevaerts: ooh, languages. that's nasty. :/ |
| 23:30:16 | * | linuxstb has to blame perl for this |
| 23:30:31 | * | gevaerts still thinks that he's probably the one who performed the attack |
| 23:30:39 | jhMikeS | amiconn: pong...delayed |
| 23:30:59 | gevaerts | The script was there, I clicked on it to download, and suddenly the site was gone... |
| 23:31:10 | Unhelpful | i suspect it's more appropriate to blame apache, but it's still fun to blame perl. |
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| 23:31:34 | linuxstb | And we're too polite to blame Bagder |
| 23:32:11 | Unhelpful | we are? |
| 23:32:33 | gevaerts | He controls the server, so yes we are |
| 23:32:58 | linuxstb | He also controls who has svn access... |
| 23:33:21 | * | jhMikeS wonders where five days of logs went to |
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| 23:33:41 | chris2255 | onether ? how can the rockbox read my album art? |
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| 23:34:05 | Unhelpful | chris2255: must save it as a .bmp file in the same directory as the tracks |
| 23:34:36 | Unhelpful | easiest way is to name have one directory per album and a file named cover.bmp in the directory |
| 23:35:34 | Unhelpful | strike that "name" to make the whole thing read sensibly |
| 23:37:30 | gevaerts | How blocking is FS #9383 ? Release notes, or disable chessclock? |
| 23:38:16 | amiconn | Checssclock works if you're not doing unexpected things (like setting the number of players to 0 or sth) |
| 23:38:21 | amiconn | iirc |
| 23:38:37 | amiconn | It has always been like that, even in 2.5 |
| 23:38:43 | gevaerts | ok, so release notes |
| 23:38:59 | gevaerts | (once the wiki is back, that is) |
| 23:39:03 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I answered your ping. Is it still relevant? |
| 23:39:25 | * | LambdaCalculus37 waves to jhMikeS |
| 23:39:35 | * | jhMikeS waves back to LambdaCalculus37 |
| 23:39:38 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Umm, problem is that I forgot about it. I'm quite sure it's still relevant, but I don't remember atm |
| 23:39:56 | amiconn | And the logs are gone :( |
| 23:40:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: hehe. ok. just hollar. what happened to them? |
| 23:40:18 | amiconn | Ask Bagder |
| 23:40:31 | Unhelpful | are logs back? the link explains all... |
| 23:40:38 | amiconn | Wiki also doesn't work still, btw |
| 23:40:40 | Unhelpful | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/09/08/a-bad-move-a-really-bad-move/ |
| 23:40:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Here's the manual entry for chopper: http://pastebin.com/m730a4226 |
| 23:40:50 | amiconn | Just throws error 500 |
| 23:41:00 | pixelma | amiconn: something related to the WM codecs maybe? |
| 23:42:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | This is one case we *can* blame on Perl. ;) |
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| 23:42:26 | Qgarten | whats up with the wiki? |
| 23:43:01 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: Navigate *a* large maze I'd say |
| 23:43:39 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: on many targets there is on additional "action" button and the table should also mention the quit button (or combo) |
| 23:43:43 | pixelma | IMO |
| 23:43:56 | * | gevaerts also points out that on a c200 the cavern isn't really large |
| 23:44:03 | Qgarten | and where are the pictures of the Divices under "Current Rockbox Builds" from? |
| 23:44:09 | * | jhMikeS says ow-ey |
| 23:44:12 | chris2255 | and the album art need to be in a specific size or could be any? |
| 23:44:12 | Qgarten | (or who makes them?) |
| 23:45:09 | Unhelpful | chris2255: needs to be the size you intend to display it in. |
| 23:45:33 | Unhelpful | most easily accomplished on a unix, where you likely have imagemagick. otherwise tricky. |
| 23:46:08 | * | jhMikeS thinks he sees some logs still in google cache |
| 23:46:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts and pixelma: Will fix. |
| 23:47:26 | chris2255 | <Unhelpful> thanks |
| 23:47:32 | soap | irfanview for Windows does most all imagemagick does from the command line. |
| 23:47:42 | soap | it is free as in beer as well. |
| 23:48:33 | Qgarten | you know the wiki is down, do you? |
| 23:48:41 | gevaerts | Yes we know |
| 23:48:46 | Qgarten | k.. |
| 23:49:15 | linuxstb | Bagder: Do we need to try and recreate the IRC logs for September, or do you think you have them somewhere? |
| 23:49:28 | Bagder | we have them around |
| 23:49:31 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: just remembered - it's not a direct "quit" but you get a menu... |
| 23:49:45 | rasher | Qgarten: They're in the manual part of the source tree, many were made by pixelma |
| 23:49:51 | Unhelpful | soap: including stuff like batchconverting piles of images, possibly w/ different names, and also scaling them to meet size constraints while preserving aspect ratio? :/ |
| 23:49:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Okay. |
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| 23:50:23 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: which might need a little explaining as well |
| 23:51:05 | soap | Unhelpful, yes. Just like imagemagick it is a simple tool. All the brains are in the script. |
| 23:51:14 | Qgarten | ty |
| 23:51:52 | Unhelpful | there's not a script for rockbox-ifying album art on the wiki, is there? :/ |
| 23:53:02 | pixelma | http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:uyanmTw4kUkJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt+site:www.rockbox.org+AlbumArt&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1 |
| 23:53:48 | pixelma | there are some scripts listed, don't know whether they work or not or if they are still available |
| 23:54:38 | Zambezi | Is it internal servereror now? |
| 23:55:00 | Qgarten | what does it take to make a new port an official build (I'm thinking of the Iaudio7 which seems to work better and better) |
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| 23:55:38 | webguest89 | HI, I am a first time user and I was wondering if I install rockbox is there any way to get ipod back to how it used to be |
| 23:55:52 | webguest89 | and if it could damage the ipod in any way |
| 23:55:52 | webguest89 | thx |
| 23:56:03 | Bagder | Qgarten: I'd say reasonable install method, somewhat stable run (with audio) and a reasonable manual |
| 23:56:07 | linuxstb | webguest89: You can "dual-boot" (i.e. choose which firmware to use - Rockbox or the original), or just follow the uninstall instructions in the manual |
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