| 00:01:23 | mcuelenaere | wpyh: and doesn't it have a POWER button? |
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| 00:05:42 | amiconn | Yay! recording also works now (mic) |
| 00:06:16 | * | amiconn needs to experiment a bit more, and then needs a Nano tester |
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| 00:28:40 | Casainho | hello Rockbox People |
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| 00:29:09 | Casainho | I was just passing to tell that now there is online the initial code for a new port, to the Rockbox Player: |
| 00:29:11 | Casainho | http://code.google.com/p/rockboxplayer/source/browse/trunk/rockbox_port/ |
| 00:29:41 | Casainho | currently giving errors on link stage of bootloader... |
| 00:29:59 | Casainho | If someone can help, would be great! :-) −− thank you |
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| 00:35:02 | linuxstb | Casainho: Can you pastebin the errors? |
| 00:35:59 | Casainho | linuxstb: yes, I will do, however, you can get the source and build it, the "build" directory is already there... |
| 00:37:05 | linuxstb | Why have you committed the build directory? |
| 00:37:10 | Casainho | linuxstb: well, I think there is no need to show the errors since I didn't work on crt0.S and boot.ld files... −− I am reading some articles about that.... |
| 00:37:37 | Casainho | well, why not? |
| 00:37:39 | linuxstb | Also, you're missing the actual bootloader file in bootloader/ |
| 00:38:01 | linuxstb | Casainho: Because it's created by you and the build system - it's not something you put under version control. |
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| 00:38:55 | linuxstb | Casainho: Ignore my comment about the bootloader - I didn't notice there was a second scrollbar on my screen... |
| 00:39:07 | Casainho | okok... |
| 00:39:59 | Casainho | linuxstb: do you think you can help on coding the intial bootloader code? |
| 00:40:35 | Casainho | Me and Thom, we are the only ones that have that development board... |
| 00:40:38 | linuxstb | I've got my own ports to work on. |
| 00:40:51 | Casainho | okok :-) - thanks :-) |
| 00:40:55 | linuxstb | (or not work on....) |
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| 00:41:42 | Casainho | :-) −− I will try to make the crt0.S and ld files working, If I have some specifiq question, I will come here and ask... |
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| 01:30:46 | amiconn | preglow/ Llorean: I now have a patch that needs testing on Nano. Tests should include playback after recording, and if possible, actual recording. Does the Nano handle mic recording via headphone socket, like the G4 and Color/Photo? Guess not... |
| 01:31:10 | Llorean | No. |
| 01:31:31 | Llorean | As far as I know it only supports line via the dock port, and I'm not 100% sure we even ever got someone to test that. |
| 01:31:54 | amiconn | http://pastebin.ca/1199442 |
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| 01:32:45 | amiconn | Then mic recording should be disabled for nano. Would be nice if you could try that too (in a separate build with another, tiny change to config-ipodnano.h) |
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| 01:33:58 | saratoga | i think there was some debate if the nano could even record through the dock connector |
| 01:34:27 | Llorean | saratoga: Yeah, as I said, I'm not 100% sure we ever got that tested. |
| 01:34:38 | Llorean | Everyone was fussing over the headphone jack, and the "I'm sure I heard something very faintly" guys |
| 01:35:02 | Llorean | amiconn: building with your patch now |
| 01:35:06 | amiconn | Well, if playback-after-recording is fixed (and it should be with this patch), we should leave recording enabled for nano. Perhaps the manual or the release notes should state it's untested |
| 01:36:17 | amiconn | My patch should fix G4, Color/Photo and Nano. Video has a different audio codec I will probably try to fix as well, but not now. And I'd need a live tester once I've put the first version together... |
| 01:36:57 | saratoga | i keep seeing that guy pop in the logs for 10 minutes to ask about some wma problem |
| 01:37:04 | amiconn | It's easy to make a lot of stupid mistakes in this type of code - dropping bits, writing to the wrong side's adc gain register etc |
| 01:37:10 | saratoga | the next time he does can someone try and ask him what revision broke his wma files |
| 01:37:50 | amiconn | Llorean: This patch took me several hours to debug said stupid mistakes... |
| 01:38:35 | Llorean | amiconn: It works, music played, record screen created a file, music played again after. |
| 01:38:53 | amiconn | Nice :) |
| 01:39:15 | Llorean | Just remove SRC_CAP_MIC? |
| 01:39:25 | amiconn | To disable mic recording. remove "SRC_CAP_MIC | " from line 21 in config-ipodnano.h |
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| 01:41:27 | Llorean | amiconn: I get errors in recorder/recording.c if I do that. |
| 01:41:42 | amiconn | Hmm, ok. Need to check that tomorrow, then |
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| 01:42:05 | Llorean | But all that bears no direct relation to his policies |
| 01:42:07 | Llorean | Oops |
| 01:42:11 | Llorean | Wrong paste |
| 01:42:19 | Llorean | http://pastebin.ca/1199453 |
| 01:42:23 | amiconn | In fact that'd be a separate fix, so I could commit this patch now |
| 01:42:35 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 01:42:59 | amiconn | Seems recording.c isn't really prepared for all possible source combinations... |
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| 03:19:41 | soap | gevaerts, regarding the Sansa USB errors... Has a test been done simply moving files repeatedly to the SD card from main memory to see if write corruption happens at a similar frequency to writing to the card directly from USB? I assume it has. |
| 03:21:42 | soap | IIRC I recorded on my nano through the dock connector. Again, IIRC, I did dock-to-dock on my nanos. I'll (re)test Friday if you still need it done, my Nano is boxed for sale, but I can dig it out. |
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| 03:24:36 | soap | and, amiconn, if you would like to schedule a time I'm willing and able to test any recording work you want to do on the video - I have a dock line-in adapter and could even set up RMAA on this computer if you have any concerns regarding those kind of things. Again, I'm mucho busy Thursday, but after that I can make time most anytime. |
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| 03:27:11 | MarcGuay | amiconn: Sorry about the email earlier, I saw you looking for the bug and don't have access to anything but mail and web at work. As far as disabling the Mic on the nano (and video I believe), I looked into that earlier and unforuntately recording assumes that if you can record at all, you have a mic. See the SVN log around r18029-18031. |
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| 03:33:24 | soap | according to iPodLinux's wiki the Nano and 5G have no fourth ring on the headphone jack (I only see three prongs looking into the jacks). |
| 03:34:48 | MarcGuay | soap: Meaning that they can't record through it? |
| 03:35:07 | MarcGuay | I'm pretty sure that's true, if so. |
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| 03:36:24 | soap | right. |
| 03:36:28 | MarcGuay | The problem is that they can (apparently?) record through the dock, so we want to have line-in recording available, but RB won't let you have line-in without mic. |
| 03:36:50 | MarcGuay | I think it's recording.c that is full of assumptions that if you have recording, you have a mic input. |
| 03:37:10 | MarcGuay | Sorry, ASSumptions. :) |
| 03:37:36 | soap | though, a fourth ring is only needed for simultaneous playback and recording, so lack of it isn't proof I guess. |
| 03:38:19 | MarcGuay | Sounds like something a science-minded person should give a test run. |
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| 03:45:45 | delt | just back from the book study (12 prophets at the end of the old testament) |
| 03:46:10 | delt | <−−- listening to those oldschool 4ch mods =D |
| 03:49:51 | * | Llorean wonders what any of this has to do with Rockbox support or development... |
| 03:50:46 | delt | oh yeah, i'm using my computer and not rockbox to play them (: |
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| 03:51:36 | Llorean | delt: Even if you were using Rockbox to play them, that doesn't belong in this channel. |
| 03:51:37 | delt | but kidding aside, sorry for being off topic |
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| 08:44:39 | linuxstb | soap: I thought the fourth ring in the headphone jack was the video output? The mic input on some ipods uses the right channel of the normal headphone output.. |
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| 09:05:30 | amiconn | linuxstb: On my ipod Photo, the headphone input uses the *left* channel of the headphone input (which is connected to the *right* ADC) |
| 09:06:15 | linuxstb | Hmm, OK... |
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| 09:09:15 | amiconn | This left & right confusion was part of a bug I had to hunt... gain adjustment for mic recording didn't work until I realised that audiohw_set_recvol() passes the desired gain in the 'left' variable only for mic recording, and I have to set the right ADC from it |
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| 09:12:30 | linuxstb | amiconn: Nice work though. Does your patch enable changing of the hardware samplerate? |
| 09:14:32 | amiconn | It should, although it's completely untested. I think the audio driver api needs some serious rework in order to make things as uniform as possible across targets, and make it more *natural* (wrt parameters) |
| 09:14:54 | amiconn | That is, I'm actually not sure how setting the sample rate for recording is supposed to work |
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| 09:20:27 | amiconn | But first I need to fix the WM8758 driver as well, so that we can make the release. |
| 09:21:08 | amiconn | I would also like to fix the Transcend 4GB MMC issue before release as well, but otoh I don't want to delay the release too much.... |
| 09:21:51 | linuxstb | As I think you suggested, the MMC fix could just be in 3.0.1 - I don't think it should delay the release. |
| 09:22:32 | amiconn | It *may* be a simple fix |
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| 09:25:48 | amiconn | linuxstb: The recording setup for WM8975 is still far from ideal, e.g. there is no monitoring at all |
| 09:26:12 | amiconn | I need a dock connector in order to be able to fiddle with line in/ line out |
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| 09:26:46 | linuxstb | I would be happy to send you my line-in dock adapter - I never use it. |
| 09:27:04 | * | amiconn also wants line out |
| 09:27:11 | linuxstb | It also has a line-out ;) |
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| 09:27:46 | amiconn | Ridax sells dock connectors, and also a nice breakout board |
| 09:31:36 | scotty_007 | amiconn: tried ebay? there are a lot of them (at least at ebay.DE if you don't need an original apple) |
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| 10:01:48 | xess | 'ello. |
| 10:05:03 | markun | morning xess |
| 10:05:21 | xess | Yo. |
| 10:06:03 | markun | what brings you here? |
| 10:07:47 | xess | I was wondering if I would be able to install rock box on my insigna NS-DV4G from source and if I can't do that if I can at least get in and look around the inside of the firm ware. |
| 10:08:10 | xess | Or do some thing like dmesg to my Mp3 player. |
| 10:09:00 | markun | That player doesn't sounds familiar at all. I guess nobody is working on a port, but you could check the forums. |
| 10:09:36 | xess | Yeah. It was just an idea. |
| 10:10:42 | advcomp2019 | that player is like the iriver x10 too if i remember right |
| 10:10:43 | markun | xess: do you think there will be enough interest to start working on a port? Google doesn't give me many hits. |
| 10:11:50 | advcomp2019 | oops.. it was the x20: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9668.0 |
| 10:12:16 | xess | I would have to learn how this it all works but if I get it down and make a stable port then I will share. |
| 10:13:08 | markun | xess: usually it's more fun to work with other people on a project like this |
| 10:13:10 | linuxstb | It's best to share any work you do as early as possible - to encourage others to help. e.g. you could set up a page in the Rockbox wiki where you collect all the information you can about the player. |
| 10:13:32 | linuxstb | And as markun said, it's more fun ;) |
| 10:15:26 | xess | Insignia put out a firm ware up date a while back that fried one in three players so this would be a nice alternative. I am not that skilled with Linux HAL so I will be a while before I would start contributing. |
| 10:15:57 | xess | I am still running the out of date that from time to time locks up entirely. |
| 10:16:44 | linuxstb | Does the Insignia run Linux? |
| 10:17:34 | advcomp2019 | xess, like i said that insignia is like the iriver x20 and there is a wiki and thread in the forums for the x20 |
| 10:17:42 | xess | I do not know. That is what I am trying to find out. Well I need to find out a lot. Does it need to run linux to start with in order to work. |
| 10:18:04 | linuxstb | No, I was just wondering why you mentioned Linux... This is #rockbox. |
| 10:18:06 | xess | advcomp2019, how is like the x20? |
| 10:18:29 | markun | xess: almost non of the players we have rockbox on had linux running. Only the Gigabeat F I guess. |
| 10:18:30 | xess | Isn't rock box made out of linux? |
| 10:18:35 | markun | no |
| 10:18:38 | advcomp2019 | Xerion, the hardware minus the mic |
| 10:18:51 | advcomp2019 | ops xess |
| 10:19:33 | xess | It seems to be running the same soft ware as well. |
| 10:20:37 | advcomp2019 | xess, here is another reason why i say that: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17955 |
| 10:21:54 | xess | Well I have to reboot to let the updates roll in so I will see you all later. |
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| 10:22:33 | * | petur would still like to see a port to the iriver E100... |
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| 10:30:04 | linuxstb | petur: What CPU is that? |
| 10:30:21 | petur | no idea... not much is known about it |
| 10:30:31 | petur | but it has line-in :) |
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| 10:38:59 | petur | linuxstb: I managed to get the hex file out of their .exe updater, it is 22MB and doesn't compress at all -> most probably encrypted? |
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| 10:59:57 | gevaerts | soap: yes, that's been tried. See the log of FS #8663 |
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| 11:04:59 | pondlife | Has anyone here tried the timestretching patch and had their device lockup and shutdown, as per http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8894#comment25774 ? |
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| 11:09:50 | petur | E100 firmware file for those interested: http://users.telenet.be/petur/E100.zip |
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| 11:11:42 | markun | petur: thanks |
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| 11:13:28 | advcomp2019 | petur, by the way, did you know the d2 has a line in too or are you looking for one without an adapter? |
| 11:13:50 | petur | no adapters :) |
| 11:14:08 | advcomp2019 | o ok |
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| 11:17:39 | advcomp2019 | petur, just remembered the iaudio7 has one ;) |
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| 11:38:33 | mick_home | hi everyone, rbutil doesn't notice my ipod - i have reformated to fat32 (w/ itunes on windows) |
| 11:38:53 | mick_home | any ideas? |
| 11:39:07 | mick_home | should i install the latest version of the apple firmware first? |
| 11:39:19 | Llorean | What iPod is it? |
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| 11:42:50 | Llorean | gevaerts: You were talking about post-freeze inclusion of some interesting patches. Do we want to start marking those as "Due in Next Release" as a means of directing attention at them now? |
| 11:47:14 | mick_home | Llorean: it is an ipod video 30 gig |
| 11:47:36 | Llorean | mick_home: Does it have a drive letter? |
| 11:47:48 | mick_home | u8m, i'm on linux :) |
| 11:48:22 | mick_home | i had to borrow someone's computer to use windows :)_ |
| 11:48:46 | Llorean | Try "su rbutil" |
| 11:48:46 | gevaerts | Llorean: good idea |
| 11:49:15 | mick_home | i'm runing it as root |
| 11:49:39 | Llorean | mick_home: Does your iPod currently properly boot into the Apple firmware? |
| 11:49:41 | mick_home | ant it is rbutilqt |
| 11:50:12 | mick_home | it says connect w/ itunes to restore |
| 11:50:33 | mick_home | i just formatted it w/ itunes, that is all |
| 11:50:54 | Llorean | mick_home: Your iPod must be in working condition for installation through the normal tools to wokr. |
| 11:51:01 | Llorean | Restoring it with iTunes will leave it in working condition. |
| 11:51:19 | mick_home | i gues i'll connect it to itunes (mac osx ppc) −− i hope it won't format it as hfs+ again |
| 11:51:24 | Llorean | iTunes doesn't have a simple "format" option, are you sure you didn't just use Windows format? |
| 11:51:42 | Llorean | And a MacOS copy of iTunes will put it in the wrong condition to use. |
| 11:51:46 | mick_home | i hada friend plug it in w/ itunes running |
| 11:52:04 | mick_home | i'll see if itunes works under wine |
| 11:52:07 | Llorean | Just plugging it in with iTunes running doesn't do anything. |
| 11:52:15 | Llorean | You could follow the IpodManualRestorep age on the wiki. |
| 11:52:24 | mick_home | no he clicked something - i wasn't there for it though :-/ |
| 11:52:34 | Llorean | gevaerts: I can't remember half the patched I thought would be good to see if could be applied. =/ |
| 11:56:28 | mick_home | Llorean: where can i get the .ipsw file from? |
| 11:56:46 | mick_home | the wiki says from a site −− i don't see anything on the site |
| 11:57:01 | Llorean | apparently the site's down/gone now. |
| 11:57:21 | mick_home | any ideas? |
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| 11:57:48 | pixelma | fxb__: isn't it your site? |
| 11:57:59 | Llorean | Not really other than restoring it properly with iTunes. |
| 11:59:13 | pixelma | it seems google cache works |
| 11:59:46 | pixelma | at least I could download something |
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| 12:00:36 | mick_home | pixelma: the .ipsw |
| 12:00:39 | mick_home | ? |
| 12:01:08 | pixelma | yes, but I have no means to test if this is a valid file... |
| 12:04:00 | mick_home | oh this is going to be such a crap shoot |
| 12:04:05 | * | mick_home crosses fingers |
| 12:04:16 | Llorean | If it unzips, you're probably safe. |
| 12:04:28 | Llorean | Since it wouldn't be a valid zip if anything was wrong with it. |
| 12:04:38 | Llorean | Not to mention, the worst that can happen is your iPod doesn't get any better. It won't get any worse. |
| 12:04:48 | mick_home | lol |
| 12:04:52 | mick_home | :) |
| 12:09:49 | mick_home | well - let me see what i can do w/ itunes |
| 12:10:09 | mick_home | since i just hosed it a bit more −− worst comes to worst i need to do a manual restore again |
| 12:12:16 | mick_home | eh, i'll try itunes 7 w/ wine |
| 12:19:46 | mick_home | shit it isn't seeing the ipod |
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| 12:31:37 | Llorean | gevaerts: Actually, on more thought, I think the "Future Release" due in value is better. |
| 12:31:59 | Llorean | We can use it to mark patches that are getting close to being usable, without giving users the impression it will definitely be in the next release. |
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| 12:34:26 | mick_home | ok, the ppc restore worked −− now i'll just restart what i was trying before |
| 12:37:29 | gevaerts | Llorean: yes, maybe that is better |
| 12:38:51 | * | Llorean wonders if we can go ahead and commit the iPod Serial patch, actually. |
| 12:42:39 | mick_home | ok, i redid everything listed and now i did the install again −− things looked like they were working |
| 12:42:47 | mick_home | now rockbox-themes.org wasn't found |
| 12:42:51 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 12:42:57 | Llorean | You'll have to get your themes from the wiki for the time being |
| 12:43:05 | mick_home | when i restarted the ipod, it boots into the bootloader |
| 12:43:23 | mick_home | rockbox.ipod not found though :-( |
| 12:43:30 | scorche | the themes on r-t.org were pretty much all broken anyway... |
| 12:43:49 | mick_home | if i try the install again it says it can't find the ipod |
| 12:43:52 | scorche | mick_home: did you extract the build zip onto the root of your drive? |
| 12:44:16 | mick_home | i thought that rbutilqt was supposed to do that |
| 12:45:03 | Llorean | Depends on which option you selected. |
| 12:45:14 | mick_home | "complete install" |
| 12:45:18 | scorche | rbutil will do that if you tell it to |
| 12:45:20 | rasher | Maybe rbutil should contain a note to that effect as long as there's no useful r-t.org |
| 12:45:31 | Llorean | rasher: I think we need to remove the themes option entirely for the time being |
| 12:45:42 | Llorean | Until we have a working theme site again. |
| 12:45:44 | mick_home | ya, would be a good idea |
| 12:45:47 | Llorean | And one under our control. |
| 12:45:52 | scorche | Llorean: certainly for the release version |
| 12:46:07 | Llorean | mick_home: Did you follow the entirety of the manual restore instructions, and get your iPod properly formatted? |
| 12:46:16 | mick_home | yes |
| 12:46:28 | gevaerts | Did you unmount it properly before rebooting? |
| 12:47:07 | mick_home | should i redo the instructions? |
| 12:47:09 | pixelma | and what version of rbutil do you use? |
| 12:47:14 | mick_home | svn |
| 12:47:29 | mick_home | i got it from svn a few hours ago |
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| 12:48:27 | pixelma | hmm? As far as I know rbutil is only distributed in certain versions |
| 12:48:46 | mick_home | wiki says that you can use svn |
| 12:49:29 | Llorean | The RockboxUtility page barely even mentions SVN |
| 12:49:40 | Llorean | Where are you seeing this? |
| 12:49:56 | mick_home | maybe i misread something |
| 12:49:59 | mick_home | ? |
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| 12:50:13 | gevaerts | mick_home: did you unmount properly? |
| 12:50:20 | pixelma | do you mean the gentoo ebuild? |
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| 12:50:30 | mick_home | probably not |
| 12:50:46 | lupinesse | umm, i hope i didn't just screw up my sansa e260r |
| 12:50:55 | mick_home | lol |
| 12:51:13 | lupinesse | rockbox starts ok but i can't dual-boot to original os and it doesn't show up as usb drive |
| 12:51:27 | Llorean | lupinesse: Recovery Mode will still work |
| 12:51:32 | Llorean | It should be described in the SansaFAQ page |
| 12:51:42 | Llorean | mick_home: Which person was the probably not directed at? |
| 12:51:49 | lupinesse | yeah, it goes to recovery mode ok, but it still doesn't show up as usb drive |
| 12:52:30 | Llorean | Recovery Mode should show up as a 16MB drive. |
| 12:52:48 | lupinesse | nope, no extra drives available |
| 12:53:06 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't touch the part of the Sansa where recovery mode is kept, and you can't in any practical sense remove it without going into it first. |
| 12:53:08 | mick_home | Llorean: gevaerts |
| 12:53:13 | lupinesse | i should give it another try |
| 12:53:24 | Llorean | mick_home: That's likely to be one of your problems then. Improperly removing it is a bad idea. |
| 12:53:35 | Llorean | lupinesse: You may want to reboot first. |
| 12:53:45 | mick_home | i think that it will all work out alright, restarted and booted into disk mode now i was able to do a standard install |
| 12:54:20 | lupinesse | Llorean: It says 'Welcome to Recovery Mode' and then 'USB cable connected' but there's no USB drive visible in My Computer. |
| 12:54:50 | mick_home | ah shoot |
| 12:54:52 | Llorean | lupinesse: Did you restart as I suggested? |
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| 12:55:08 | lupinesse | Just plain restart, to Rockbox? |
| 12:55:12 | mick_home | i installed "standard" and then installed fonts and such (no themes) |
| 12:55:17 | Llorean | lupinesse: Your computer. |
| 12:55:23 | lupinesse | Oh :) |
| 12:55:31 | mick_home | i did a "umount /dev/sdc2" and i unplugged it and restarted |
| 12:55:37 | lupinesse | PEBKAC ;) |
| 12:55:42 | mick_home | still "file not found" |
| 12:55:50 | lupinesse | Well, I'll be right back |
| 12:56:06 | mick_home | should i try a release? |
| 12:56:44 | mick_home | oh shoot - i wasn't using svn (i had a thinko) |
| 12:56:47 | Llorean | mick_home: If rockbox.ipod is in the .rockbox folder on the partition, and the bootloader still isn't seeing it, this usually means that the partition isn't actually formatted quite right. |
| 12:57:02 | mick_home | i'm using m1.0.6 32 bit linux |
| 12:57:13 | mick_home | ok |
| 12:58:24 | mick_home | damn menu+select isn't rebooting |
| 12:58:34 | Llorean | Then you're doing it wrong. |
| 12:58:41 | linuxstb | Or the hold switch is on? |
| 12:59:15 | mick_home | finally just did it wrong i guess |
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| 13:00:24 | mick_home | i just mounted it and there is no .rockbox folder in there |
| 13:00:37 | mick_home | the old iPod directories are there though |
| 13:00:39 | mick_home | :-/ |
| 13:01:03 | mick_home | 1 |
| 13:01:31 | mick_home | it is mounted as /edia/sdc2 −− maybe it is a wrong partition number? |
| 13:01:41 | mick_home | /media/sdc2* |
| 13:02:03 | linuxstb | No, that's right. |
| 13:02:51 | lupinesse | Llorean: After restart, still no USB drive, but it says 'e200 manufacturer mode' on the USB hub list |
| 13:03:18 | advcomp2019 | lupinesse, recovery mode does not work |
| 13:03:39 | advcomp2019 | ? |
| 13:03:53 | lupinesse | well it goes to recovery mode, but i don't see it as usb drive |
| 13:04:19 | lupinesse | doesn't show up anywhere, except the usb hub list, and it doesn't let me even reset the driver :P |
| 13:05:29 | advcomp2019 | can you check your disk management to see if it can see the 16mb recovery mode? |
| 13:08:11 | lupinesse | now it showed up, i had to connect it straight to pc instead of using usb hub |
| 13:08:21 | lupinesse | so, then the next step :P |
| 13:08:57 | lupinesse | if i find the right manual page again |
| 13:09:24 | mick_home | ok, my uebercool bluetooth keyboard just pressed up a bunch of times and a accidentally put the mbr on there again (it this really bad?) |
| 13:10:34 | mick_home | when an ipod is in disk mode and umounted it says "do not disconnect" −− is it ok? |
| 13:11:13 | mick_home | if i disconnect it says "ok to disconnect" −− weird |
| 13:12:48 | mick_home | ok, the file not found error comes up again |
| 13:12:53 | mick_home | .rockbox is there |
| 13:13:18 | lupinesse | puuh, unbrick successful :) |
| 13:13:23 | mick_home | so is the rockbox.ipod file (it is in the .rockbox directory) |
| 13:13:35 | mick_home | lupinesse: awesome :) |
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| 13:13:59 | scorche | lupinesse: it wasnt really "bricked" before... |
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| 13:17:34 | mick_home | Llorean: since it is a video ipod (30 gig) −− i think it is a 5.5 gen −− could it be that i need to use the mkfs.vfat command for 512-byte sectors instead of the line for 2048 sectors? |
| 13:17:36 | pixelma | interesting... when copying files to the Sansa in MTP mode (with WMP10), they are put into SYSTEM/MTPCONTENT/x/y/z/some_eight_digit_hex.dat (where x, y, z are 0-F too but only one "digit") - renaming those to mp3 let's me play them in Rockbox |
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| 13:19:31 | Llorean | mick_home: Yes, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have used the 2048 one... |
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| 13:22:47 | pixelma | so if Rockbox's database should find those too, it would need to read accept that .dat files can also be music files. One problem I could see already that there are also some more, smaller .dat files too (info ?) |
| 13:22:59 | pixelma | s/read// |
| 13:23:35 | mick_home | oh great :-/ |
| 13:25:51 | Llorean | pixelma: I'm pretty sure .dat files can be *any* data transferred in MTP. I put a file on that it classified as just being copied for storage, and it showed up as a .dat as well, if I recall |
| 13:27:16 | * | mick_home tries again |
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| 13:28:24 | pixelma | what if the database would be clever enough to skip all those which don't have music meta data? Not sure if this is a nice solution though... |
| 13:29:25 | mick_home | shit still same problem |
| 13:34:34 | Llorean | pixelma: I think I'd be interested to know if this is the standard way for MTP, or if MTP allows freedom and this is the Sansa way. |
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| 13:34:55 | mick_home | if someone has a chance to look: http://pastebin.ca/1199907 −− this is what i did |
| 13:35:02 | Llorean | If it's standard then there's probably an index we can use to get their original filenames from, and then don't need to scan every single .dat file on the disk |
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| 13:35:46 | mick_home | i'm wondering if the current build isn't broken :-/ |
| 13:35:57 | Llorean | You're failing at the bootloader stage |
| 13:36:03 | Llorean | It has nothing at all to do with the current build. |
| 13:36:16 | mick_home | ah yes, good point |
| 13:36:25 | Llorean | Why are you putting the -2048 MBR on it if you're now trying not formatting to 2048? |
| 13:37:14 | pixelma | yeah, that too. I was just thinking of those who still might prefer MTP mode on the Sansas (I didn't enjoy it but at least there was no database refresh, IIRC)... maybe someone could try with an H10? |
| 13:37:18 | mick_home | oh shit |
| 13:37:24 | mick_home | thanks for catching that |
| 13:38:12 | Llorean | pixelma: H10 and Gigabeat S would both be places to look, I imagine. |
| 13:40:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: The Gigabeat S doesn't do a database refresh in MTP mode. |
| 13:41:18 | pixelma | I was talking about my c200 |
| 13:42:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I was also referring to what Llorean had said, along with your mention of MTP mode. |
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| 13:47:00 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. Did you read the beginning of the discussion? |
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| 13:48:11 | pixelma | the question is whether Sandisk chose an own way for the .dat files you'll get when copying music to the Sansa or if this is typical |
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| 13:49:47 | mick_home | ok damnit −− the ipod sounds like the drive is restarting itself |
| 13:49:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Now I see what you're talking about. :) |
| 13:49:51 | mick_home | over and over |
| 13:50:00 | mick_home | it makes a click and it restarts |
| 13:51:10 | mick_home | oh this isn't good |
| 13:51:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: On the Gigabeat S, the files are transferred to a Content folder in the main storage partition, and obfuscated in a similar fashion to the iPod's file storage. |
| 13:51:44 | mick_home | there is no hard shutdown on this thing either |
| 13:52:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: We'll talk more later; I've got to get to work now! |
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| 13:52:55 | pixelma | ...sounds similar to the c200 then but needs more investigation |
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| 13:54:36 | mick_home | i guess this thing will restart until it dies |
| 13:54:55 | mick_home | seems to be an endless loop in bootloader |
| 13:55:05 | mick_home | well, firmware rather |
| 13:59:30 | preglow | amiconn: i don't have any way in which to record with the nano |
| 13:59:47 | preglow | anyway, i'll try it out and see |
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| 14:00:10 | preglow | in a couple of hours anyway, need to go now |
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| 14:00:53 | scotty_007 | mick_home: can you shut it down (holding play, I think)? |
| 14:00:56 | mick_home | holding do to go in disk mode for 60 seconds brought it to disk mode |
| 14:01:07 | mick_home | holding play didn't work |
| 14:01:11 | mick_home | i did that for 3 minutes |
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| 15:29:24 | markun | gevaerts: we should probably start adding targets for the M3 and SP, since the LCD code will be different on the various meizu players. |
| 15:30:30 | skatteola | any update on the endian issue yet, markun? :) |
| 15:30:53 | markun | skatteola: remind me again tonight :) |
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| 15:32:05 | markun | skatteola: did you see that we can read the touchpad now? |
| 15:32:10 | skatteola | hehe, I'll try. I'm living in JST timezone at the moment, but I guess my biorythm is crapped up enough anyway |
| 15:32:20 | skatteola | Yeah, I saw that |
| 15:32:30 | markun | it has been tested and works on the M6SP, M6SL and M |
| 15:32:32 | markun | M3 |
| 15:32:39 | skatteola | nice :) |
| 15:32:57 | markun | skatteola: gevaerts also wants me to fix the endian problem, so he'll probably remind me :) |
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| 15:44:00 | gevaerts | markun: true |
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| 15:54:54 | markun | gevaerts: did you check if P0.4 is indeed the CHANGE pin from the QT1106? |
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| 15:57:30 | gevaerts | markun: no |
| 15:59:56 | kronflux | so I'm curious. how close/far, in you guys' opinions, are we from running any form of custom code, especially rockbox, on the ipod nano 2g? I've been reading the logs of the irc, and watching the forums religiously :p and I figure why not ask those who actually work with it? I see we can now access the DFU mode, and we supposedly have tools to interact with this mode.. |
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| 16:00:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rockbox on the iPod nano 2G is still a long way off. |
| 16:00:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | There's still the matter of dealing with the firmware encryption. |
| 16:01:08 | markun | but if the DFU mode works than we have a much better chance |
| 16:01:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: That's true. :) |
| 16:01:26 | kronflux | has anyone tried anything with it yet? |
| 16:01:33 | * | markun points to LambdaCalculus37 |
| 16:02:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Nothing yet. I'm going to try to monitor USB traffic to the nano during a firmware restore to see what's going on, since I want notes on that. |
| 16:02:14 | mick_home | the feature comparison chart on te wiki doesn't have much on ipod firmware vs rockbox firmware in terms of features −− i see under "other features" the ipod is listed, anyone know about things like battery life on the ipod? |
| 16:02:37 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: did you try a modified version of meizu_dfu yet? |
| 16:03:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: I tried, but I think I entered the values for the USB IDs incorrectly in the source; will try again when I can sit down and fix my bug. |
| 16:04:46 | kronflux | cant wait to hear the results :) |
| 16:05:06 | markun | kronflux: are you a programmer? |
| 16:06:51 | kronflux | sort of. I know the basics of several languages. I havent really touched any form of code in a few years, but I'm a quick study, which is one of the reasons I'm so interested |
| 16:07:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Want to help us out? :) |
| 16:07:34 | kronflux | if theres any way I can, I'd love to. I'd love the learning experience, especially. |
| 16:08:53 | svpe | ok.. anything special i need to do to get the ZenLDR working with IDA? i compiled it using the SDK and copied it to the plugins dir. it still doesn't recognize the file as a EDOC though :/ |
| 16:09:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronxflux: Download and set up a development environment on your PC, and then check out the Rockbox source code via SVN. |
| 16:09:43 | markun | kronflux: do you have a computer with Linux (or BSD, OSX..) installed? |
| 16:10:15 | kronflux | um, currently running windows, but I have another drive set up for ubuntu. I'm only recently learning linux, so its an ongoing process :p |
| 16:10:42 | mick_home | can rockbox play FLAC? |
| 16:10:46 | markun | mick_home: yes |
| 16:10:50 | kronflux | yes it can |
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| 16:10:56 | mick_home | thanks |
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| 16:11:15 | markun | mick_home: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs |
| 16:11:27 | mick_home | thanks |
| 16:11:43 | mick_home | for video codecs, i'm sure that is also in the wiki? |
| 16:12:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Check this page out: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 16:12:20 | markun | mick_home: mainly this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
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| 16:12:50 | markun | no other video codecs (for the newer rockbox targets) |
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| 16:13:25 | kronflux | alrighty, um, so I dont have to go look for it, whats the svn addy? |
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| 16:15:26 | petur | svn.rockbox.org ? |
| 16:15:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: The command is svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox |
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| 16:18:51 | kronflux | alrighty, I'm gonna switch on over to ubuntu now, so I'll be back shortly. |
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| 16:21:11 | * | petur hands kronflux a virtual machine |
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| 16:27:48 | markun | petur: the dfu tool doesn't work in a virtual machine I think |
| 16:27:57 | markun | Kohlrabi: welcome back |
| 16:29:03 | markun | oops :) |
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| 16:31:28 | mick_home | anyone get the simulator to compile on debian? |
| 16:31:38 | mick_home | i have a failed dependency on the toolchain |
| 16:31:54 | mick_home | gnuarm is missing basically |
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| 16:32:35 | markun | mick_home: you don't need a crosscompiler for the sim |
| 16:32:57 | mick_home | make[1]: arm-elf-gcc command not found |
| 16:33:10 | markun | then you didn't select the sim (or something's broken) |
| 16:33:32 | mick_home | i got the source from svn |
| 16:33:40 | mick_home | and i'm trying to make it |
| 16:33:45 | markun | mick_home: run tools/configure again |
| 16:34:05 | markun | make sure you select 's' |
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| 16:37:59 | mick_home | thanks |
| 16:38:09 | markun | kronflux: in linux now? |
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| 16:38:41 | kronflux | yep, sorry, was just on the phone. |
| 16:38:55 | mick_home | something that i didn't even think of is that rockbox supports multiple languages |
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| 16:39:35 | markun | mick_home: here are some nice stats: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/ |
| 16:40:28 | mcuelenaere | svpe: why can't you use the precompiled version? |
| 16:40:40 | mcuelenaere | ah he's gone already :( |
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| 16:40:59 | kronflux | markun:I'm grabbing the svn now |
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| 16:51:02 | kronflux | alrighty, i've got the svn, and i'm looking at the crosscompiler page |
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| 16:52:33 | markun | kronflux: you can run tools/rockboxdev.sh to build the arm crosscompiler you need |
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| 17:08:43 | kronflux | this takes a while :p |
| 17:13:40 | kronflux | finally, its done. |
| 17:15:42 | markun | kronflux: in utils/meizu_dfu you can type 'make' to build the tool |
| 17:15:54 | markun | but I think you will have to install libusb first |
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| 17:17:38 | kronflux | I typed make, and it spit out this: gcc -o meizu_dfu meizu_dfu.c -lusb |
| 17:18:51 | skatteola | If that's all it worked, the executable is meizu_dfu |
| 17:19:43 | skatteola | (sorry, haven't been following the conversation :) ) |
| 17:23:18 | kronflux | so now that thats installed.. how can I help? |
| 17:28:21 | markun | kronflux: first compile our 'bootloader' code. Create a folder, run tools/configure in there and select the meizu and then bootloader. |
| 17:29:32 | markun | eh, wait, you're the nano 2g guy.. :) |
| 17:29:41 | kronflux | yep :p |
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| 17:30:00 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: can you help him get into DFU mode? |
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| 17:31:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Before we begin... do you have an extra DAP on hand? We're about to destroy the nano's firmware here. |
| 17:31:18 | markun | ;) |
| 17:31:32 | kronflux | dap? |
| 17:31:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Another MP3 player. |
| 17:31:45 | kronflux | oh. nope XD |
| 17:31:52 | markun | ... in case you want to listen to music |
| 17:32:10 | kronflux | I wonder if itunes will recover the ipod when you break the firmware? |
| 17:32:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | It will. |
| 17:32:21 | kronflux | oh, then no problems then ;) |
| 17:32:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay, here we go! Hold on to your hats! :) |
| 17:32:41 | kronflux | and yes, I do have another ipod.. just I dont use it. lol.. but I have cd's, and I only use the ipod in the car ;) |
| 17:32:44 | kronflux | whee! |
| 17:33:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | First, put the iPod into Disk Mode... MENU+SELECT to reboot, then SELECT+PLAY at the Apple logo. |
| 17:33:29 | kronflux | I suppose I should hook it up first |
| 17:34:04 | kronflux | there disk mode. |
| 17:34:18 | kronflux | is it normal for the light not to come on? |
| 17:34:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | In Disk Mode, yes. |
| 17:34:35 | kronflux | alrighty |
| 17:34:37 | kronflux | so we're in that |
| 17:34:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | Anyway, open a terminal, and type df -h |
| 17:35:21 | kronflux | done and done |
| 17:35:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | What device is your iPod listed as? /dev/???? |
| 17:36:43 | kronflux | ummm |
| 17:37:11 | kronflux | that doesnt look like my ipod.. |
| 17:37:12 | petur | /dev/ummm :) |
| 17:37:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | :) |
| 17:37:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Should be something like /dev/sda2, for example. |
| 17:37:39 | kronflux | /dev/sda1 36G 9.0G 25G 27% is what came up |
| 17:37:47 | kronflux | but its certainly not 9gigs:p |
| 17:38:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | That is not your iPod. That's your computer's hard drive. |
| 17:38:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | And we're *not* going to trash that. ;) |
| 17:38:16 | kronflux | preferrably ;) |
| 17:38:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Here, copy the output of df -h to this site: http://pastebin.com/ and give us back the link it gives you. |
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| 17:40:10 | kronflux | http://pastebin.com/m7879e8c0 |
| 17:41:00 | kronflux | neat little site, never heard of it, but I like it. I'll definitely get more use out of this XD |
| 17:41:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Did you connect the nano to the PC? |
| 17:41:10 | kronflux | yep |
| 17:41:15 | kronflux | I can try a different usb port.. |
| 17:41:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | Yes, do so. |
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| 17:42:00 | scotty_007 | kronflux: maybe you should look at the syslog too |
| 17:42:09 | skatteola | or just dmesg | tail ? |
| 17:42:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | That works. |
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| 17:42:46 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: not everyone has automounters set up |
| 17:42:52 | kronflux | [ 7218.094550] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0 |
| 17:43:28 | * | LambdaCalculus37 doesn't want to keep asking a bunch of off-topic crap here |
| 17:43:34 | kronflux | so I think its sdf |
| 17:43:38 | kronflux | or something |
| 17:43:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Join #rockbox-community |
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| 17:50:05 | mcuelenaere | where are the .elf files kept for plugins during compilation? |
| 17:50:38 | mcuelenaere | ahh they aren't made for Simulators |
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| 18:42:18 | n1s | amiconn: shouldn't FS #7402 be closed now that you have fixed the bug? |
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| 19:27:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Register for the wiki under your real name. I'll give you write access once you're done. |
| 19:29:28 | amiconn | n1s: No, since it isn't fixed for all affected targets. Especially not for the one it was reported on... |
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| 19:31:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Let me give you access. |
| 19:32:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: All done! Welcome to Rockbox! |
| 19:32:26 | * | LambdaCalculus37 gives kronflux a Character Class Change... you are now a 1st level Rockbox Hacker :) |
| 19:33:47 | n1s | amiconn: aha |
| 19:34:27 | amiconn | ipod video has a different wolfson |
| 19:36:45 | * | amiconn grabs wm8758.[ch] and starts working on it |
| 19:37:26 | * | ruskie wonders if there's any alternative to the ipod shuffle 2g that can run rockbox... |
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| 19:37:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | ruskie: Look at the front page. |
| 19:38:42 | ruskie | nothing usable there |
| 19:38:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: There's a page on the wiki for the 2nd gen nano. If you ever find any good info, you can post it all up there. |
| 19:39:02 | ruskie | I believe all those include some sort of a display |
| 19:39:07 | advcomp2019 | ruskie, if you want to help, there is the sansa clip |
| 19:39:17 | ruskie | still has a pointless display :) |
| 19:39:24 | | Part scotty_007 |
| 19:39:39 | ruskie | and I am trying to find any possible key combo that might be usable to get rockbox onto the shuffle anyway |
| 19:39:44 | amiconn | ruskie: If you want something without a display (on the main unit), try to find an iaudio M3. It is hdd based though |
| 19:40:41 | ruskie | I'd guess it's also quite bigger than the shuffle due to the hdd |
| 19:40:51 | amiconn | Does the shuffle G2(+) have the same partition layout as the Nano G2(+) ? |
| 19:41:16 | ruskie | no clue... never seen a nano g2 |
| 19:41:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | amiconn: No idea. |
| 19:41:38 | ruskie | if you can point me to where this is displayed I can run a fdisk on it... |
| 19:41:45 | amiconn | Iirc it is based on the same SoC, so perhaps the nano g2 hacking could help bringing rockbox to the shuffle g2 as well |
| 19:44:11 | ruskie | http://rafb.net/p/BHgfrH48.html <−− does this make any sense? |
| 19:45:12 | gevaerts | markun: you used input and output from the point of view of the qt1106. Shouldn't we use the CPU PoV ? |
| 19:48:56 | markun | gevaerts: yes, good idea. Also, the return value doesn't have to be masked anymore |
| 19:49:08 | markun | that's a leftover from when the code was a bit different |
| 19:49:17 | gevaerts | true |
| 19:49:38 | gevaerts | I'm putting all that in drivers/qt1106.c right now |
| 19:50:14 | markun | ok. Will the defines be in the target tree? (since they might be different for other targets using the qt1106 in future) |
| 19:51:15 | gevaerts | The QT specific ones will be in export/qt1106.h (the QT_* ones), I'm not sure yet about the others |
| 19:51:49 | gevaerts | I need to check how GPIO is handled for the other ports |
| 19:53:38 | markun | gevaerts: well, other can define their own macros. Or maybe we should turn them into inline functions? |
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| 19:54:31 | markun | I will check the GPIO pins of the other buttons and the CHANGE pin |
| 19:55:21 | gevaerts | inline functions won't make much of a difference here. They will still be target specific |
| 19:56:16 | gevaerts | Can someone remind me about the likely causes of "export/font.h:33:21: error: sysfont.h: No such file or directory" ? |
| 19:56:40 | markun | usually and error in SOURCES |
| 19:56:50 | markun | and -> an |
| 19:57:22 | gevaerts | indeed. fixed |
| 19:58:14 | markun | the CHANGE pin works |
| 19:58:32 | markun | but somehow it triggers 2 reads instead of just 1 |
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| 20:00:14 | markun | ah, 1 time for pressing, 1 time for releasing |
| 20:00:37 | gevaerts | makes sense I guess |
| 20:03:09 | markun | gevaerts: here are the changes: http://130.89.160.166/temp/qt1106.diff |
| 20:03:27 | mick_home | ok, i'm still having problems installing rockbox −− what i'm doing so far is: http://pastebin.ca/1200229 |
| 20:03:34 | gevaerts | I'll try to merge that into my tree |
| 20:04:26 | markun | mick_home: I have no idea, sorry |
| 20:05:24 | gevaerts | mick_home: can you check dmesg output after the hdparm -z to see if it really re-reads the partition able? |
| 20:06:01 | mick_home | gevaerts: it does −− after doing an install (again) −− it says "no partition" when it reboots |
| 20:06:06 | mick_home | dmesg |
| 20:06:12 | mick_home | oops - wrong tab :) |
| 20:07:05 | mick_home | shit - sdb: p2 exceeds device capacity |
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| 20:07:37 | mick_home | that just can't be good |
| 20:07:40 | mick_home | :-| |
| 20:08:41 | mick_home | df -h says that 64K is used (so it must be another partition) |
| 20:09:00 | mick_home | what do i mount the mbr as? (what filesystem) |
| 20:09:10 | mick_home | or the firmware partition |
| 20:09:26 | mick_home | sdb and sdb1 |
| 20:10:40 | mick_home | i guess i can just zero out /dev/sdb w/ dd -right? |
| 20:10:55 | mick_home | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb |
| 20:11:25 | gevaerts | mick_home: I'd suggest to run badblocks -w /dev/sdb before doing anything else. This will take a while, but I suspect the hard drive |
| 20:12:30 | mick_home | gevaerts: how long would you say that will take? |
| 20:12:34 | mick_home | on 30 gigs |
| 20:12:37 | gevaerts | markun: long |
| 20:12:42 | gevaerts | mick_home: long |
| 20:12:43 | mick_home | 2 hrs? |
| 20:12:48 | mick_home | or 8 hrs? |
| 20:13:24 | gevaerts | You can do it for a few blocks first to have an estimate. See the manpage |
| 20:13:40 | mick_home | man badblocks |
| 20:13:51 | mick_home | damn, wrong kb −− i need to setup synergy |
| 20:16:28 | gevaerts | markun: I've split out the qt1106 related things to separate files. Shall I commit now so we have a common base again? |
| 20:17:26 | markun | sure, |
| 20:17:36 | mick_home | hmm, would it be a bad thing to ctrl+c it? |
| 20:17:45 | markun | better to commit whenever we have something working, then other people can join in |
| 20:17:53 | mick_home | i wish that these things had progress bars :-/ |
| 20:19:09 | markun | gevaerts: we need to add (at least) the M6SP and M3 to tools/configure (and elsewhere). Is it better to do that now or shall we first focus on the SL? |
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| 20:20:22 | gevaerts | mick_home: this isn't really rockbox related at this point. Could you join #rockbox-community for further talk about this until you get back to actually installing rockbox? |
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| 20:20:55 | gevaerts | markun: doing it now won't get in the way I think, so why not? |
| 20:21:20 | mick_home | gevaerts: oh i'm sorry - i didn't even know about that |
| 20:21:30 | mick_home | so sorry −− didn't know it was a -devel channel |
| 20:21:38 | mick_home | :-/ |
| 20:21:44 | gevaerts | it's also support |
| 20:21:58 | gevaerts | But your issues are not rockbox issues right now |
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| 20:23:17 | markun | gevaerts: does the order matter? 111 for SP and 112 for M3? |
| 20:23:40 | gevaerts | fine with me |
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| 20:33:37 | markun | gevaerts: just copy everything from meizu-m6sl for now? |
| 20:33:47 | mick_home | ok, ii've been directed back here :) −− so i put in "/dev/sdb" and "autodetect" and it changed the path to /mnt/sdb2 (which is the mounted vfat partition) |
| 20:34:14 | mick_home | i click on "small installation" and it says that it moves files −− but nothing is in there (afaik) |
| 20:34:18 | mick_home | ls -las |
| 20:34:19 | amiconn | gevaerts: Indeed, the channel isn't dev-only |
| 20:34:19 | gevaerts | markun: at least for the m3, which seems pretty identical |
| 20:34:36 | mick_home | oops (again) −− it does move them (sorry) −− hidden directory |
| 20:35:06 | mick_home | cd .. |
| 20:35:17 | * | gevaerts hands mick_home a better window manager :) |
| 20:35:27 | mick_home | ok - i'll be right back |
| 20:35:39 | mick_home | i can't do this anymore :) |
| 20:35:44 | | Quit mick_home ("sorry guys") |
| 20:36:29 | * | amiconn would like to remind people that while longish unrelated jabber should go into #rockbox-community, it is still better to have a few unrelated lines here than having dev talk happen in #rockbox-community, effectively losing it from the logs |
| 20:36:34 | markun | gevaerts: what shall name the round button? http://www.pmptoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/meizu-m3-music-card-wholesale.jpg |
| 20:37:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: Toggle? |
| 20:37:22 | markun | LambdaCalculus37: I have no idea what that button does in the OF, do you? |
| 20:37:30 | gevaerts | amiconn: I expected that that part would be a lot longer. |
| 20:37:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | markun: No. We should ask wpyh when he's around. |
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| 20:37:58 | gevaerts | So does that player have a slider and three buttons? |
| 20:38:49 | amiconn | I was mainly referring to all the meizu hacking and nano g2 dfu mode talk today |
| 20:38:54 | gevaerts | I suspect that the round thing is actually two buttons |
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| 20:39:13 | mick_home | back |
| 20:39:18 | mick_home | *sigh* that sucked :) |
| 20:39:25 | markun | gevaerts: just downloaded the manual, let me check |
| 20:39:39 | markun | http://www.meizu.no/manual/M3manual.pdf |
| 20:39:51 | gevaerts | markun: if I'm right, the keymap will be exactly the same as the m6 |
| 20:41:36 | * | mick_home crosses fingers again |
| 20:41:54 | markun | gevaerts: looks like you're right |
| 20:42:02 | mick_home | no partition found again :-/ |
| 20:42:37 | gevaerts | mick_home: again the p2 exceeds device capacity thing? |
| 20:43:48 | markun | gevaerts: "Click the Previous/Next key to previous/next music" |
| 20:43:57 | mick_home | http://pastebin.ca/1200288 |
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| 20:44:47 | mick_home | gevaerts: something like that |
| 20:44:57 | kronflux | so yes. |
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| 20:45:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Basically, let's get up to speed here... the 2nd gen nano uses a Samsung SoC, which is the same chip as found in another player with an in-progress port, the Meizu M6 and M3. |
| 20:45:06 | mick_home | [16935.945263] sdb: p2 exceeds device capacity |
| 20:45:06 | mick_home | [16936.350322] attempt to access beyond end of device |
| 20:45:07 | gevaerts | mick_home: can you show a few lines earlier? |
| 20:45:15 | mick_home | sure |
| 20:45:57 | amiconn | What target is that? |
| 20:46:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: What we're trying to find out is if the work we've done on the Meizu thus far can also be done on the nano. |
| 20:46:24 | kronflux | ah |
| 20:46:34 | kronflux | so how might we go about testing that? |
| 20:46:49 | gevaerts | amiconn: mick_home's issue? ipod video |
| 20:47:01 | amiconn | Capacity? exact model? |
| 20:47:20 | mick_home | http://pastebin.ca/1200292 |
| 20:47:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: I want to perhaps see what happens when you compile a Meizu M6 or M3 bootloader and send it to the nano with the meizu_dfu tools. |
| 20:47:42 | mick_home | gevaerts: ^^^ i think that these are the relevant lines |
| 20:48:00 | gevaerts | mick_home: did you use the 5.5G or the 5G MBR ? |
| 20:48:17 | kronflux | LambdaCalculus37: is that exactly safe? :P |
| 20:48:40 | gevaerts | This is a 5.5G, and it looks as if you used the 5G one |
| 20:48:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: Who knows? :) |
| 20:48:42 | mick_home | mbr-video30gb.bin |
| 20:49:03 | kronflux | LambdaCalculus37: hm. well I'm sold. :p I'm in :D |
| 20:49:10 | gevaerts | mick_home: you need mbr-video30gb-2048.bin |
| 20:49:30 | kronflux | ipods are relatively cheap these days, so if I brick mine, oh well. |
| 20:49:46 | mick_home | i tried that one before and it didn't work - so i tried the other one |
| 20:49:56 | mick_home | ok, will do - i'll change the other line too |
| 20:50:00 | gevaerts | mick_home: and you need mkfs.vfat -S 2048 -F 32 /dev/sdb2 |
| 20:50:24 | amiconn | Isn't there a bug in mkfs.vfat that makes it not work for the G5.5 ipods? |
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| 20:50:46 | mick_home | oh don't say that :( |
| 20:50:55 | gevaerts | amiconn: wpyh did some testing on that and didn't find problems |
| 20:50:58 | mick_home | if that is the case then i'm screwed |
| 20:51:06 | mick_home | my presentation is in 3 hrs |
| 20:51:18 | gevaerts | mick_home: no. If this doesn't work, there's still mformat |
| 20:52:34 | gevaerts | mick_home: actually, before you restore the firmware, do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1" |
| 20:52:56 | mick_home | didn't i ask before if i should do that :-P |
| 20:53:01 | mick_home | heh - thanks - will do |
| 20:53:20 | mick_home | ah i would have done it on the whole thing −− better to only do that partition |
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| 20:53:47 | gevaerts | Normally it's not needed, but there is a bug in the released bootloader that could cause problems if you first use the wrong mbr |
| 20:54:26 | gevaerts | Although I think that should only be a problem if you do it the other way round (use a 2048-byte mbr on a 512-byte ipod) |
| 20:54:41 | mick_home | dd: writing to `/dev/sdb1': Input/output error |
| 20:54:41 | mick_home | 17209+0 records in |
| 20:54:41 | mick_home | 17208+0 records out |
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| 20:54:41 | mick_home | 8810496 bytes (8.8 MB) copied, 16.3916 s, 538 kB/s |
| 20:54:42 | Kick | (#rockbox mick_home :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-507a9318582de8ba |
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| 20:55:30 | mick_home | 4 lines is a flood? |
| 20:55:33 | mick_home | since when |
| 20:55:34 | gevaerts | mick_home: please use a pastebin for those |
| 20:55:40 | mick_home | that was 4 lines |
| 20:55:54 | mick_home | 5 lines is a flood |
| 20:56:03 | mick_home | IMO |
| 20:56:16 | gevaerts | not here, sorry |
| 20:56:23 | mick_home | ok, dually noted |
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| 20:56:38 | gevaerts | Anyway, that looks like a bad disk to me... |
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| 20:58:53 | mick_home | ok, this is odd |
| 20:58:55 | mick_home | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 |
| 20:59:01 | mick_home | gives me: dd: writing to `/dev/sdb1': No space left on device |
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| 20:59:33 | gevaerts | that's normal. It says that when the partition is full |
| 20:59:54 | mick_home | even if i'm zeroing it out |
| 20:59:58 | mick_home | a second time |
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| 21:00:18 | * | gevaerts corrects himself |
| 21:00:29 | gevaerts | It says that when the dd reaches the end of the partition |
| 21:00:36 | mick_home | oh |
| 21:01:12 | mick_home | when i reread the partition table it says: BLKRRPART failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
| 21:01:22 | gevaerts | reread how? |
| 21:01:29 | * | amiconn notices that mick_home is using a buggy dd |
| 21:01:47 | amiconn | It doesn't calculate the correct amount of data |
| 21:02:05 | amiconn | 17208 sectors are ~35MB on a G5.5, not 8.8MB |
| 21:02:31 | domonoky | so its dd and not a bad harddisk.. :-) |
| 21:02:38 | gevaerts | amiconn: dd always uses 512 byte blocks by default IIRC |
| 21:03:10 | amiconn | Hmm, but 8.8MB would be definitely not the whole firmware partition |
| 21:03:30 | gevaerts | No, but it stopped on an IO error |
| 21:04:03 | gevaerts | mick_home: I would just unplug the ipod and plug it back in to force rereading the mbr |
| 21:04:29 | mick_home | http://pastebin.ca/1200315 <−− this doesn't look good :-( |
| 21:04:52 | mick_home | i zeroed the other partitions to start from scratch |
| 21:06:44 | gevaerts | mick_home: did you leave any partitions mounted while doing all that? |
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| 21:07:28 | mick_home | gevaerts: no |
| 21:08:12 | gevaerts | mick_home: unplug it, plug it back in, and show what dmesg says about it |
| 21:10:12 | mick_home | nothing |
| 21:10:16 | mick_home | well, nothing new |
| 21:10:22 | mick_home | i did: tail | dmesg |
| 21:10:31 | * | gevaerts hopes the reverse |
| 21:10:34 | mick_home | though the other info is interesting (pastebining now) |
| 21:12:27 | mick_home | http://pastebin.ca/1200322 |
| 21:12:35 | mick_home | [19862.290812] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 |
| 21:12:42 | mick_home | that is the last thing it said |
| 21:13:25 | gevaerts | bad contact on the cable. Unplug the cable on both ends and try again |
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| 21:15:31 | gevaerts | markun: did you remember the ibook and the meizu_dfu endianness issues? |
| 21:16:15 | mick_home | http://pastebin.ca/1200327 |
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| 21:16:39 | mick_home | i'm using a macbook (if that means anything) |
| 21:16:43 | gevaerts | OK. reset the ipod then |
| 21:16:48 | mick_home | i do own an ibook though |
| 21:16:50 | HulkSmashNow | Hello. I'm trying to install rockbox on my Sansa C240 and am using the Rockbox Utility. It keeps giving me the "failed to add Bootloader" error. Can anyone help? Thanks. |
| 21:17:09 | gevaerts | HulkSmashNow: do you have root/administrator rights? |
| 21:17:18 | HulkSmashNow | Yes. |
| 21:17:46 | kronflux | LambdaCalculus37: so where might I find a bootloader for meizu? |
| 21:18:07 | gevaerts | HulkSmashNow: are you sure you have a v1? |
| 21:18:22 | HulkSmashNow | Yes. It's a v1. |
| 21:18:48 | gevaerts | mick_home: doesn't matter. just reset it and try again. It connected earlier, so it should connect again (unless the cable is broken now) |
| 21:19:42 | mick_home | connects now, but i see erors: http://pastebin.ca/1200330 |
| 21:19:50 | mick_home | this time it did connect though |
| 21:19:51 | domonoky | HulkSmashNow: you could try sansapatcher, maybe this gives more info, why it failes. |
| 21:19:56 | gevaerts | HulkSmashNow: which firmware version? |
| 21:20:17 | advcomp2019 | HulkSmashNow, you in mtp or msc mode? |
| 21:20:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | kronflux: You'll have to build one from source. |
| 21:20:29 | HulkSmashNow | The latest firmware, 1.01.07 and I'm in MSC mode. |
| 21:20:38 | * | domonoky sees something in the rbutil wiki page... |
| 21:21:07 | domonoky | rbutil1.0.6 has a bug with this firmware on sansas.. |
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| 21:21:35 | bertrik | HulkSmashNow, that version is supported in the very latest version but possibly not in the latest release of rbutil |
| 21:21:58 | domonoky | its fixed in svn, but we didnt release a new version till then... perhaps the released sansapatcher already has that fix ? |
| 21:22:07 | HulkSmashNow | So, what do I do now? Install it manually? |
| 21:22:08 | gevaerts | mick_home: first format /dev/sdb2 with 2048 byte sectors. |
| 21:22:47 | domonoky | HulkSmashNow: try sansapatcher to install the bootloader, for the rest you can the use rbutil.. |
| 21:23:23 | bertrik | HulkSmashNow, do you know how to compile a qt application? |
| 21:23:31 | bluebrother | domonoky: what bug are you talking about? |
| 21:23:59 | bluebrother | and iirc there hasn't been an updated sansapatcher binary released |
| 21:24:11 | domonoky | bluebrother: sansa c200 with firmware 01.01.07, i think the key was missing ? |
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| 21:24:24 | HulkSmashNow | Sansapatcher gives "failed to decrypt image, aborting" error. |
| 21:24:32 | bluebrother | well, I wouldn't consider that a bug but rather a limitation ;-) |
| 21:24:58 | domonoky | what ever we call it, its the problem HulkSmashNow sees now :-) |
| 21:25:10 | bluebrother | well, latest sansapatcher binaries are build in october ... |
| 21:25:17 | mick_home | i'm back to the file not found error |
| 21:25:18 | bluebrother | HulkSmashNow: what OS are you using? |
| 21:25:26 | HulkSmashNow | WinXP SP3 |
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| 21:25:56 | bluebrother | gimme a couple of minutes and I can provide you a rbutil binary build from current svn. |
| 21:26:00 | mick_home | i did a "small install" (i think that was what it was called) |
| 21:26:06 | bluebrother | that should work with 1.01.07 |
| 21:26:07 | mick_home | this file exists -> /mnt/sdb2/.rockbox |
| 21:26:20 | bluebrother | mick_home: this isn't a file, it has to be a folder |
| 21:26:42 | gevaerts | mick_home: does /mnt/sdb2/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod exist? |
| 21:27:02 | mick_home | bash: cd: rockbox.ipod: Not a directory |
| 21:27:14 | dionoea | it's a file :) |
| 21:27:40 | mick_home | bluebrother: error on my part. yes the directory .rockbox exists and the file rockbox.ipod does too |
| 21:28:05 | mick_home | boot loader doesn't see it though |
| 21:28:14 | mick_home | back to my original problem :-/ |
| 21:29:16 | gevaerts | mick_home: can you install the bootloader from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9369 ? |
| 21:30:29 | gevaerts | mick_home: you'll need to download (or compile) ipodpatcher for that. rbutil won't install it |
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| 21:32:39 | mick_home | ok,. i'll look up ipodpatcher |
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| 21:33:17 | mick_home | i just downloaded a bootloader (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9369?getfile=17449) |
| 21:33:57 | gevaerts | That's the one |
| 21:34:08 | bluebrother | HulkSmashNow: I've put you an updated rbutil online (it even contains uncommitted code ;-) Try this one: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/rbutilqt.exe |
| 21:35:00 | gevaerts | mick_home: now as soon as you have ipodpatcher, run ./ipodpatcher -a bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 21:35:10 | * | bluebrother notices that he semi-updated that folder |
| 21:35:12 | HulkSmashNow | Appreciate that so much. I'll try it now. |
| 21:35:22 | bluebrother | shouldn't affect the sansapatcher part though. |
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| 21:38:47 | HulkSmashNow | It's giving me "No Sansa detected." The other version of utility didn't do that. |
| 21:39:28 | mick_home | gevaerts: it installed, i ejected /dev/sdb2 and i started it again −− said "file not found" again |
| 21:39:59 | mick_home | going into disk mode again |
| 21:40:36 | mick_home | ok, here is something interesting... kde seems it as 29G and 119G |
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| 21:40:54 | mick_home | wonder where the 119G are coming from |
| 21:41:15 | bluebrother | HulkSmashNow: ok ... can you try an updated sansapatcher? Maybe I made a mistake with the updated build (and sansapatcher is a smaller download for you ;-) |
| 21:41:19 | bluebrother | http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/sansapatcher.exe |
| 21:41:34 | * | gevaerts is out of ideas |
| 21:41:35 | HulkSmashNow | Will do it now. |
| 21:42:02 | mick_home | i just hit "install rockbox" and ejected the device |
| 21:42:10 | * | mick_home crosses fingers |
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| 21:43:27 | mick_home | ok, i'm googling now |
| 21:43:51 | HulkSmashNow | Sansapatcher says that it doesn't detect any Sansa devices. |
| 21:44:42 | bluebrother | hmm. Is your c200 a v1 device? |
| 21:45:05 | HulkSmashNow | Well, I ran Sansapatcher again and it detected the device this time. |
| 21:45:14 | gevaerts | bluebrother: it's 1.01.07 |
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| 21:45:16 | bluebrother | strange. |
| 21:45:39 | bluebrother | gevaerts: ah, dang. This small version number thingy ... ;-) |
| 21:46:05 | * | bluebrother does a clean rebuild of rbutil |
| 21:46:10 | HulkSmashNow | Do I go ahead and install the bootloader? |
| 21:46:17 | HulkSmashNow | under Sansapatcher? |
| 21:46:28 | bluebrother | well, if it detects the player I don't see a reason why not ;) |
| 21:46:39 | HulkSmashNow | okay. Then use the utility? |
| 21:46:58 | mick_home | interesting someone said to cp the .ipod file out of the .rockbox directory |
| 21:47:02 | HulkSmashNow | It says bootloader installed successfully. |
| 21:47:05 | bluebrother | if you feel more comfortable you can also wait another few minutes until my box has finished building rbutil. A full rebuild takes a while on my machine |
| 21:47:06 | bertrik | HulkSmashNow, yes |
| 21:47:29 | HulkSmashNow | bluebrother, I'll wait for you. |
| 21:47:30 | gevaerts | mick_home: won't help |
| 21:47:42 | HulkSmashNow | And thanks for everyone's help here. |
| 21:47:44 | bluebrother | HulkSmashNow: nice. Then you can just use rbutil for everything else. You might not want to use the automated install though ;) |
| 21:47:56 | mick_home | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1eyWMz5cbE |
| 21:48:11 | mick_home | seems to be that everyone that comes across this has my particular ipod :-/ |
| 21:48:44 | HulkSmashNow | bluebrother, which option? Just "Install Rockbox" under "Installation?" |
| 21:49:41 | mick_home | interesting −− it now mounted to /media/disk −− the ipod stuff is there but no .rockbox |
| 21:49:53 | mick_home | how can i just get something to untar there? |
| 21:50:27 | mick_home | err the .rockbox directory not "something" :) |
| 21:50:45 | bluebrother | HulkSmashNow: yes. The quick start tab only calls those installs, and it always tries to install bootloader and build. |
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| 21:51:27 | gevaerts | mick_home: just rerun rbutil |
| 21:51:29 | mick_home | i'm trying w/ the rbutil |
| 21:51:37 | domonoky | mick_home: yes, you can simply unpack a current rockbox archive to your ipod.. |
| 21:51:53 | gevaerts | mick_home: please use real words. w/ doesn't mean anything |
| 21:51:58 | bluebrother | unzip -d /media/disk rockbox.zip |
| 21:52:18 | mick_home | gevaerts: ok, i will |
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| 21:52:42 | * | mick_home crosses fingers |
| 21:53:16 | kronflux | weiner |
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| 21:54:14 | HulkSmashNow | It worked! Again, thank you guys so much! This was a great experience. |
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| 21:55:02 | mick_home | i feel like crying at this point |
| 21:55:31 | mick_home | beaten by an ipod of all things :( |
| 21:55:50 | gevaerts | mick_home: try the mformat way. |
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| 22:11:16 | mirak | hello$* |
| 22:12:57 | Horscht | $hello = char("hello) |
| 22:16:23 | mick_home | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7736 <−− i don't think that this should have been closed |
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| 22:17:19 | gevaerts | mick_home: have you tried mformat yet? |
| 22:17:30 | mick_home | how do i know the drive letter? |
| 22:17:36 | bertrik | has anyone ever looked at "Odys" players? (I searched the forums and found nothing). It quite cheap yet looks quite nice: http://www.4mp3.nl/a/odys-mp3-speler/odys-mp-x50-1gb |
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| 22:18:15 | gevaerts | mick_home: edit /etc/mtools.conf as described on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 |
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| 22:19:34 | gevaerts | bertrik: I would bet on atj2085 |
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| 22:20:40 | bertrik | gevaerts, that's probably the cpu/main controller in it, you mean? |
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| 22:20:59 | gevaerts | bertrik: yes. That or a derivative |
| 22:21:41 | * | bertrik hunts the datasheet |
| 22:22:31 | gevaerts | Actually, seeing the 320x240 screen it may be something more powerful |
| 22:24:08 | gevaerts | bertrik: http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/atj2085.pdf |
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| 22:24:36 | bertrik | it says the instruction set is compatible with Z80 :S |
| 22:25:07 | gevaerts | yes, but a 60MHz Z80! |
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| 22:26:28 | gevaerts | It could be something else of course, but the atj2085 is very common in really cheap players, especially those that use these AMV/RMV/... video formats |
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| 22:29:13 | mcuelenaere | anyone in here with some NAND accessing experience? |
| 22:29:35 | bertrik | gevaerts, ok thanks for the lead |
| 22:29:58 | bertrik | mcuelenaere, I've interfaced with raw NAND a few times |
| 22:30:08 | mcuelenaere | ah cool |
| 22:30:19 | mcuelenaere | what should I expect when reading an OOB from a random page? |
| 22:30:22 | mcuelenaere | in raw data |
| 22:30:39 | mcuelenaere | or isn't there some kind of standard? |
| 22:30:41 | bertrik | sorry, an OOB? |
| 22:31:06 | mcuelenaere | yeah, I think it stands for Out-Of-Band |
| 22:31:32 | mcuelenaere | if I'm correct, a NAND chip has x pages and for every page, it has an additional OOB (which is smaller) |
| 22:31:42 | mcuelenaere | which contains ECC information etc |
| 22:31:45 | mcuelenaere | and bad blocks |
| 22:31:48 | mcuelenaere | info |
| 22:31:54 | bertrik | mcuelenaere, sorry I don't know about that |
| 22:32:01 | mcuelenaere | hmm too bad |
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| 22:32:35 | mcuelenaere | but in short for reading a page, all I have to do is give the read page command, set the rows and columns and start reading data, right? |
| 22:32:57 | bertrik | what I've done is just identify, erase and write NAND flash and it didn't have OOB |
| 22:33:14 | mcuelenaere | well that's all I need :) |
| 22:33:21 | mcuelenaere | OOB shouldn't be that much harder |
| 22:33:48 | mcuelenaere | but I can't seem to get past the identify stage :/ |
| 22:34:28 | bertrik | The flash I worked with was simply mapped into a memory space of a CPU, with separate address and data buses |
| 22:35:10 | mcuelenaere | you mean you could access the flash'es contents directly in memory? |
| 22:35:40 | bertrik | yes, reading it was a matter of simple direct memory access |
| 22:36:42 | mcuelenaere | ah, sounds like the ZVM case |
| 22:36:49 | mcuelenaere | but not the Onda :/ |
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| 22:41:43 | mick_home | ok, god hates me |
| 22:41:50 | mick_home | i get everything runnning |
| 22:42:03 | mick_home | i hit the up arrow and that stupid bluetooth bug hits me |
| 22:42:08 | agaffney | which god? |
| 22:42:14 | mick_home | it ends on the "dd" line :) |
| 22:42:29 | gevaerts | ouch |
| 22:42:35 | dionoea | must be the "rockbox on a dap" god |
| 22:42:37 | mick_home | agaffney: don't worry - only my god hates me. your god likes me :) |
| 22:42:57 | * | gevaerts thinks that this is the god they call murphy |
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| 22:43:35 | mick_home | wherever there is a bug open regarding mkfs.vfat not working −− please add a comment for me |
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| 22:43:50 | agaffney | mick_home: I have no god :P |
| 22:43:51 | gevaerts | So mformat works? |
| 22:44:00 | mick_home | i hope that i can just "redo" everything and have it work again |
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| 22:44:07 | mick_home | agaffney: i'm atheist :-P |
| 22:44:14 | agaffney | as am I |
| 22:44:21 | mick_home | i got that ;) |
| 22:44:37 | agaffney | I really with those silly christians wouldn't be so presumptious and give their god a name instead of just using "God" like it's the only one :P |
| 22:44:46 | gevaerts | please, topic... |
| 22:44:50 | agaffney | heh |
| 22:45:12 | * | gevaerts mentions the existence of #rockbox-community again |
| 22:45:27 | agaffney | gevaerts: Murphy wasn't a god...just a politician :P |
| 22:45:34 | agaffney | politicians make laws |
| 22:45:47 | * | gevaerts wants to reply but can't because of the topic |
| 22:46:02 | * | agaffney is done |
| 22:49:25 | mick_home | iiiiiiii hate my life |
| 22:49:32 | mick_home | file not found |
| 22:52:04 | gevaerts | mick_home: which dd command did you accidentally run? |
| 22:53:08 | mick_home | ok sweet - i just reran rbutilqt (had to run it 2 times) −− odd but oh well |
| 22:53:24 | mick_home | i'm not sure when i have last been this happy |
| 22:53:29 | mick_home | you guys are awesome |
| 22:53:42 | gevaerts | have fun, and don't touch it again! |
| 22:54:23 | mick_home | lol, actually i think i'll mess with it more actually |
| 22:54:38 | mick_home | i'm a programmer :-P |
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| 22:57:49 | Gartral | any idea why the idle shutoff timer is broken? |
| 22:59:52 | Gartral | nvm, stupidity ensues |
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| 23:01:21 | funman | Hillshum: hey |
| 23:01:29 | Hillshum | haha |
| 23:01:48 | Hillshum | aww... i have to go now |
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| 23:01:58 | funman | oops :/ |
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| 23:02:38 | mick_home | btw - anyone use amarok w/ rockbox? |
| 23:02:39 | funman | i'll try to connect after 20 UTC (14h for you ?) |
| 23:02:48 | mick_home | do i just use "generic audio player" with it? |
| 23:03:05 | Hillshum | funman:yes |
| 23:03:23 | Hillshum | i can't be on every day tho |
| 23:03:30 | funman | no problem |
| 23:03:37 | funman | do you use im ? |
| 23:04:01 | Hillshum | not really |
| 23:04:03 | funman | i'm more often connected on jabber/msn |
| 23:04:12 | Hillshum | msn works |
| 23:04:42 | funman | I sent you my msn via notice |
| 23:06:56 | mick_home | ooooooook, as cool as it is to look at this −− i'm sure someone will ask me "so does that thing play music"? i'd like to answer "yes" :) |
| 23:07:42 | gevaerts | mick_home: just put music anywhere you want... |
| 23:07:49 | mick_home | sorry for the repeated keystrokes −− trust me it isn't me doing it :) |
| 23:08:09 | mick_home | so just outside the .rockbox directory i take it |
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| 23:09:33 | gevaerts | mick_home: I use a directory called "audio", but it doesn't matter. |
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| 23:11:03 | mick_home | maaaaaaaan i'm so freakin giddy right now |
| 23:11:17 | mick_home | i've got sound −− this is so damn cool |
| 23:11:48 | mick_home | and i have it connected to amarok −− even cooler :D |
| 23:12:07 | mick_home | ok, sorry for ranting −− i've spent all day on this |
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| 23:32:21 | petur | bugger, why is the sim segfaulting :( |
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| 23:35:15 | kushal_12_27_200 | I have a quick question for the Sansa c250 running 20080904 version of RockBox. How do I end recording from the microphone? Right now, I press haphazard buttons and it is a hit and miss situation. Please reply if you know something about it or can tell me where I can find the answer. Thank you. |
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| 23:37:43 | n1s | kushal_12_27_200: I suggest checking the manual |
| 23:38:53 | #>> | "explain manual" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
| 23:40:28 | kushal_12_27_200 | I read the record section before but could not find it. :( |
| 23:40:40 | * | kushal_12_27_200 goes to the website for the latest edition of the manual |
| 23:41:01 | bluebrother | logbot explain update |
| 23:41:11 | #>> | "explain rtfm" by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
| 23:41:32 | agaffney | ugh, why does the bot use /notify instead of sending directly to the channel? |
| 23:42:00 | bmbl | but I don't want to read the manual now :( |
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| 23:42:33 | kushal_12_27_200 | Isn't it this http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansac200/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1310009 page that I am supposed to read? I cannot find the information I need. : |
| 23:42:48 | petur | nope |
| 23:43:00 | petur | not settings |
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| 23:44:02 | petur | try this: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansac200/rockbox-buildch5.html#x8-970005.8.1 |
| 23:44:37 | n1s | hmm, that WRS info is a bit hard to find |
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| 23:48:38 | kushal_12_27_200 | thank you for the link but it is a bit hard because when I press long power, it shuts down. :( |
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| 23:50:10 | kushal_12_27_200 | I think I just need to get accustomed to it now. Thank you very much. You guys are awesome! :) |
| 23:52:23 | petur | errrr that sounds like a bug |
| 23:52:34 | petur | maybe you press it too long? |
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| 23:54:25 | kushal_12_27_200 | When it works, I only need to press for three seconds to go to the previous window. I think I need to press seven seconds before it shuts down unceremoniously. |
| 23:54:59 | * | kushal_12_27_200 thinks he should have tried that before writing something that is going to be archived forever in rockbox.org |
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| 23:55:45 | fxb | pixelma: late response... yea, somehow it stopped working, didn't look at it. |
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| 23:56:51 | kushal_12_27_200 | ttyl |
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