#rockbox 2008-09-16

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#rockbox log for 2008-09-16

00:00:17	amiconn	The LANG_FAILED thing should be replaced with proper status messages which don't need appending
00:01:05	amiconn	Appending works for english and a few other languages, but I'm sure there are languages where this order is wrong
00:01:58	preglow	indeed
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00:12:10	rasher	Even worse is pronounciation of numbers
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00:12:29	rasher	I don't really see a nice way of getting that right
00:13:55	preglow	not one that is lang file only, no
00:15:34	rasher	iiuc, pronouncing numbers is awfully complicated in some languages (I think Romanian might be one)
00:16:08	preglow	well, there's bound to be algorithms for it
00:16:25	preglow	problem is making it fit into our architecture
00:16:41	amiconn	Back in archos-only times I had an idea for proper number pronunciation
00:17:09	preglow	it would still work, i take it?
00:17:18	amiconn	Each language needs its own code for pronouncing numbers, since the rules are different
00:18:02	amiconn	But in order to not waste space, only one such module should be loaded. My idea was to place this code into the .voice file, as position-independent code in a special "clip"
00:18:20	preglow	yeah, that'd be the logical way of doing it
00:18:26	amiconn	But this approach has several nasty issues
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00:18:35	preglow	we'd still waste space by having to allocate a buffer for it, of course
00:18:50	amiconn	First, it requires that the architecture supports position-independent code
00:19:21	preglow	why? couldn't it just be loaded at the start of the voice clip buffer?
00:19:31	preglow	bah, forget that
00:19:32	amiconn	Second, there are languages requiring extra (actual) voice clips for composing numbers
00:19:55	preglow	well, the second issue we can't avoid no matter what solution we choose...
00:20:40	amiconn	I mean in addition to the standard 0...19, 20..90, 100, 1000, 1000000
00:21:09	amiconn	Yeah, but the question is what ids should be given to those extra clips
00:21:41	amiconn	Their meaning might even differ from language to language, and I'm not sure how many extra clips we'd need
00:22:17	preglow	we'd need some scheme that allowed each language to keep its own set, no global common identifiers or all of them
00:22:19	preglow	or/for
00:22:28	amiconn	And finally, such a voice file wouldn't work in the respective sim
00:23:26	preglow	btw, such a scheme should be used to properly deal with things like speaking the time and things like it too
00:23:38	amiconn	The current number pronunciation is wrong for german, but recognisable
00:25:16	rasher	amiconn: maybe just NUMBER_COMPOSE_[12345..]?
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00:37:56	preglow	any quick info on how i commit something to the 3.0 branch?
00:38:45	gevaerts	preglow: check out svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_0 and work in that
00:39:09	gevaerts	You can use svn merge to get patches from other branches
00:39:55	preglow	so i can't merge a patch to 3_0 without having to check it out?
00:40:31	gevaerts	Maybe you can switch to it, but I'm not sure
00:41:44	preglow	seems to me a lot of recording stuff has been just removed, not replaced
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00:42:26	preglow	ah, no, just the sysfont stuff
00:42:27	preglow	good
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00:47:25	preglow	rasher: http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/norsk.diff, could you please just apply that for me?
00:47:35	rasher	Sure
00:47:36	preglow	if there's nothing wrong with it
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00:48:45	preglow	what was the url for the page that analyzed a file for problems?
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01:40:38	rasher	preglow: just click the little exclamation point icon next to a language
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02:14:58	JThundley	hey guys, I've loved rockbox for as long as I've used it on my iaudio x5, but I filled up it's 30G hard drive
02:15:16	JThundley	and it's impossible to find the 60GB version, so I'm looking at the ipods now (ugggh)
02:15:41	scorche	you might want to have a look at the HardDriveReplacement wiki page
02:15:57	JThundley	well I read about replacing the hard drives in the x5's
02:16:04	JThundley	and they say you can't physically fit it inside
02:16:11	JThundley	because the bigger hard drive is physically bigger
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02:18:27	JThundley	the wiki says the thickness of my drive is 5mm, a 40G or 60G replacement is 8mm
02:18:30	scorche	only dual-platter hard drives..
02:19:51	JThundley	huh?
02:19:55	scorche	JThundley: many iriver users have been using a ZIF to ATA adapter that will fit inside...i do not know if one of those will fit inside the x5 though
02:20:27	scorche	as in only dual-platter hard drives are physically bigger...you can find a larger single platter drive
02:21:12	JThundley	ooooh really
02:21:30	JThundley	I take it you're not an apple fan either ;)
02:21:57	scorche	that isnt really on-topic here
02:22:20	JThundley	my bad, my bad
02:23:12	JThundley	well I'll look into a replacement drive then, thanks for informing me of that wiki page
02:23:19	JThundley	but just in case, the real question I came to ask is...
02:23:32	JThundley	what generation is this and is it supported? http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_classic?mco=MTcyODQ0OA
02:23:59	scorche	it says ipod classic right on the page...
02:24:34	JThundley	well I see all the generations listed on the rockbox supported players page
02:24:45	JThundley	and I don't want to buy some 5th generation that isn't supported or something
02:24:58	scorche	look at the front page...
02:25:31	JThundley	so all classics are supported then?
02:25:40	scorche	where are you seeing that?
02:26:19	JThundley	oh wait it says the classic isn't supported
02:26:26	scorche	;)
02:26:32	saratoga	good job reading those words
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02:26:58	JThundley	having some trouble braining today
02:29:12	JThundley	I figured ipod classics were the first through 5.5th generation ipod
02:29:32	scorche	that would be wrong
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02:31:37	star_jasmine	hi I have a stupid question. how do I uninstall an iaudio x5's bootloader? please tell me I can use rbuild
02:32:29	JThundley	move .rockbox out of the dir?
02:32:40	saratoga	should have an uninstall button in rbutil
02:32:48	saratoga	don't remove the .rockbox though
02:32:55	saratoga	at least not without uninstalling first
02:33:07	star_jasmine	oh good. so if its connected to the computer (this isn't mine. its for a friend) I should be able to just click uninstall?
02:33:15	pixelma	star_jasmine: you would need to install the original firmware again, not sure how rbutil handles it
02:33:23	scorche	JThundley: please dont give advice on topics that you are unsure about...bad information can make matters worse
02:34:36	saratoga	i'd probably just check the manual, theres likely instructions in there
02:35:02	scorche	there are
02:36:25	star_jasmine	ok. I have the original firmware
02:36:29	star_jasmine	zipped up
02:36:42	star_jasmine	do I just put that on the player in the root?
02:37:01	scorche	did you read what the manual suggests?
02:37:45	star_jasmine	no I wish the personI knew would read it. I just read the bootloarder uninstalation/uninstall page, which was slightly confusing
02:38:28	scorche	eh?
02:39:20	star_jasmine	ah there we go
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02:46:41	Hillshum	How do I apply a patch to OF?
02:48:37	krazykit	you'd need the OF's source code for starters.
02:48:59	Hillshum	source?
02:49:17	Hillshum	or just a disassemblely?
02:49:27	krazykit	what are you doing, exactly?
02:49:42	saratoga	depends on what the patch was made against, you can patch code or binary, but usually here people do code
02:49:49	saratoga	since patching binary is quite nasty
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02:52:54	Hillshum	patching the e200v2 firmware
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02:54:02	saratoga	i haven't been following the e200v2 development that closely, but thats going to be a binary patch
02:54:15	saratoga	have you read through the thread in the forums? should be all the info you need in there
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02:56:03	Hillshum	not how to patch
02:56:32	saratoga	?
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03:04:23	saratoga	vitja is turning out to be quite an accomplished hardware hacker
03:04:47	saratoga	hes already got a new iaudio7 patch up
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04:40:22	Hillshum	Should the e200 v2 page be a child of e200 or v2?
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04:46:11	rasher	preglow: norsk.lang looks proper now
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04:47:22	Hillshum	Should the e200 v2 page be a child of e200 or v2?
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05:00:38	webguest55	It's countrymonkey. Just ideling
05:01:01	scorche\|sh	last i checked...idling meant not saying anything ;)
05:04:43	webguest55	Alright, ideling wasn't the right word; how about "being bored and talking if the need comes?" Besides, I for some reason have to send a first quote in order for other people's quotes to show up.
05:06:15	Hillshum	stay on topic
05:06:17	Hillshum	....
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07:18:31	scorche\|sh	setkeh: please disable that script..
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07:19:49	setkeh	scorche\|sh, what script ???
07:20:03	scorche\|sh	the away bit
07:20:25	setkeh	scorche\|sh, you mean the thing that xchat uses to say im away
07:20:39	scorche\|sh	yes
07:20:56	setkeh	scorche\|sh, why it hasent hurt anyone
07:21:13	scorche\|sh	setkeh: please have a look at the guidelines linked in the topic
07:21:32	setkeh	scorche\|sh, fine dick
07:21:42	scorche\|sh	please be civil..
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09:36:27	JdGordon	can we tart talking about enw features again yet?
09:36:36	petur	sure
09:36:53	petur	about typing classes too ;)
09:37:12	JdGordon	:)
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09:55:15	JdGordon	anyone wanna talk about bookmarks?
09:57:27	JdGordon	... umm.... why isnt the left/right arrows working in the sim?
09:58:24	JdGordon	did someone change the sim keys in the last while?
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10:00:16	JdGordon	AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR stupid bloody party mode
10:02:38	petur	rofl
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10:21:28	gevaerts	markun: I've been thinking on my way here : this 0xa802 keeps repeating if you read again, so depending on exact needed waiting time it could 0x02a8, and if we got one bit-time wrong, that becomes 0x0154
10:23:02	*	JdGordon is almost finished redoing bookmarks!
10:23:04	markun	gevaerts: so we could have made good progress yesterday after all :)
10:23:16	markun	JdGordon: in what way?
10:23:46	gevaerts	markun: now we have something to do tonight as well :)
10:23:47	JdGordon	bmark files are changing to a copy of the .playlsitcontrol file
10:24:02	JdGordon	markun: do you use bookmarks?
10:24:11	markun	JdGordon: I used to
10:24:50	markun	and yes, good idea to store the playlist with a bookmark
10:25:39	JdGordon	I tihnk the only thing I havnt fixed yet is the recent bookmarks list
10:25:43	markun	JdGordon: personally I don't think it's very useful to have multiple bookmarks for 1 playlist. Do you ever use that?
10:25:53	JdGordon	I dont use playlists at all :p
10:26:04	JdGordon	although, in my testing I can see why it owuld be good
10:26:46	JdGordon	s/playlists/bookmarks
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10:32:18	*	MartinR would like to have the volume stored in bookmarks as well.
10:32:40	JdGordon	interesting idea...
10:32:43	JdGordon	probably not though
10:32:54	JdGordon	patch is up at FS #9407 if anyone wants to test
10:32:56	MartinR	When resuming an audio book the was speaker shouting in my ears if I listened to loud music before.
10:33:09	linuxstb	Replaygain?
10:33:30	JdGordon	hopefully someone with a hard disk target can test it please? I only have flash targets so the delay isnt bad
10:34:10	*	JdGordon actually lies.... he hasnt tested on target yet
10:34:25	JdGordon	no sscanf for target builds!?
10:35:11	JdGordon	BUGGER!
10:35:12	linuxstb	IIRC, I think there's an sscanf in the firmware directory (Doom misuses it by linking directly), but it's not compiled for the core.
10:35:30	JdGordon	ill use the parse list then
10:35:33	JdGordon	close enough
10:36:41	gevaerts	markun: I tried both with and without delays, same results
10:45:07	JdGordon	parse_list is giving me the shits!
10:46:21	JdGordon	ok, patch updated if anyone wants to try it out
10:46:23	scorche	JdGordon: perhaps you should eat them then...they may have gone bad
10:46:36	scorche	shouldnt...
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11:42:27	JdGordon	:( no bigbambi
11:46:24	JdGordon	so in svn the time of the bookmark is displayed, in the new system I only store the file offset... is there any way to get the time from the offset? or should I just store the time also?
11:51:21	linuxstb	Have you tested that with different codecs? Most resume based on a time, not a file offset, so I think you must store the time.
11:58:11	pixelma	how does it work with the playlist control file?
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12:04:46	JdGordon	linuxstb: atm im storing the file offset so its perfect for all codecs
12:04:51	JdGordon	but not very nice to display
12:04:56	JdGordon	pixelma: ?
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12:14:07	linuxstb	JdGordon: And you can resume any codec via a file offset?
12:14:43	JdGordon	cant you?
12:15:24	JdGordon	well, I'm using playlist_start() which takes the start position so i just assume it works for all supported codecs
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12:18:45	linuxstb	Maybe there's some confusion, I haven't looked at the code for a long time, but the "offset" can be either a timestamp, or file position in bytes, depending on the codec. So it probably works, but the value you're storing may not always be a file offset in bytes, even though it looks like one...
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12:25:30	JdGordon	oh ok... thats fine, I'm not changing that value at all so whatever it stored gets reused... I'm using the id3->elapse to get the time in seconds which seems to work
12:25:47	JdGordon	wastes a bit of ram but its better
12:26:23	*	JdGordon now has the bookmark viewer screen working exactly as before
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12:26:35	JdGordon	excpet the title isnt being displayed :p
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12:33:43	JdGordon	is being able to delete a resume point in a .bmark a big requirement?
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12:40:21	JdGordon	hey BigBambi, you use bookmarks yeah?
12:40:28	BigBambi	I do indeed
12:41:06	JdGordon	can I get you to test out 9407 some time?
12:41:40	BigBambi	Sure. I'm at work at the moment, but I'll try tonight (7/8 hrs time)
12:42:01	JdGordon	great, by then I should have a mostly complete patch ready
12:42:18	BigBambi	Okey dokey
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12:51:14	JdGordon	BigBambi: how does unique only work? (or how is it meant to work?)
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12:55:04	BigBambi	JdGordon: As I understand, if you make multiple bookmarks in a playlist, it only shows the most recent bookmark you made in that playlist
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12:55:30	JdGordon	ah ok
12:55:36	JdGordon	umm... hmm :p
12:55:52	pixelma	it is explained in the manual
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12:56:27	BigBambi	Otherwise if I alternate between listening to e.g. music and an audiobook and I make several bookmarks in the audiobook in a row I will only see those and not a bookmark from my music as well on the list
12:56:34	BigBambi	A very useful feature :)
12:57:24	JdGordon	ok, so yeah, need to think about how to do the recent bmakrs list
12:57:31	JdGordon	I think everything else is done and working
12:58:01	JdGordon	... and talking in the list which will be annoying
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13:01:24	BigBambi	[selfish] I don't use talking, but recent bookmarks is essential![/selfish]
13:01:54	BigBambi	Actually, recent bookmarks with the unique setting is practically the only way I use bookmarks
13:04:21	*	JdGordon understands both points
13:04:39	JdGordon	talking has become very important in rockbox though so that has to be done
13:05:08	JdGordon	and I'm trying to make it so users dont even notice a change (apart from old bmark files no longer working), so mrb stays
13:06:11	BigBambi	Oh sure, I completely agree that talking is essential
13:06:30	pixelma	I could imagine that bookmarking is even more important to blind users
13:06:34	BigBambi	yep
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13:14:09	JdGordon	pixelma: yeah, definetly, at least untill we get audio while seeking (which probably wont happen anyway)
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14:04:00	JdGordon	specifically the bookmark on stop - yes - recent only doesnt make sense
14:04:16	JdGordon	it only saves to the recent list? and doesnt create a .bmark?
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14:38:25	J-23	hmm, RockCalendar plugin doesn't compile for me - e200 simulator build with no other patches applied.
14:39:08	J-23	"make[3]: *** No rule to make target `rockcalendar_note.160x128x2.bmp', needed by `/home/Moarc/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/bitmaps/native/rockcalendar_note.160x128x2.c'. Stop."
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14:58:19	MarcGuay	J-23: Are you sure you're choosing e200? That sounds like the pixel dimension for the m200.
14:58:20	mcuelenaere	MarcGuay: have you seen my PM?
14:58:47	MarcGuay	mcuelenaere: Just got it. I found an eBay listing for a replacement Zen V OLED that mentions the markings.
14:59:00	mcuelenaere	oh cool, could you give a link?
14:59:06	MarcGuay	mcuelenaere: http://cgi.ebay.com/Creative-Zen-V-V-Plus-Replacement-LCD-Screen-New_W0QQitemZ360088440582QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
14:59:48	J-23	yes, I tried it many times.
14:59:51	MarcGuay	mcuelenaere: Is there code for it already?
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15:00:01	mcuelenaere	haven't looked
15:00:04	J-23	(with re-configuring and recompiling, with re-patching too)
15:00:38	mcuelenaere	MarcGuay: most important first: we need to find the memory registers in the Sigmatel SoC how to communicate with the LCD IC
15:01:02	mcuelenaere	but probably those are to be found in the Linux kernel
15:01:09	mcuelenaere	I think I have it laying somewhere here..
15:01:16	J-23	hmm, e200 is not on supported players list.
15:02:04	LambdaCalculus37	MarcGuay: I thought the pixel dimension for the m200 was 128x64x1. 160x128x2 is the dimensions on most of the greyscale targets.
15:02:18	MarcGuay	mcuelenaere: This looks very useful... http://www.lxdinc.com/PDFs/P10901-A01.pdf
15:02:44	mcuelenaere	yes, I looked into it
15:02:45	MarcGuay	LambdaCalculus37: Indeed.
15:04:33	mcuelenaere	MarcGuay: I'll put the LCD memory registers in the wiki
15:04:34	J-23	that message appeared when compiling for supported iAudio X5
15:05:43	MarcGuay	mcuelenaere: Alrighty. And that business with it showing up as a STMP3600 Device is interesting indeed.
15:05:58	mcuelenaere	right, but perhaps unneeded
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15:07:48	J-23	yes.
15:08:03	J-23	hmm, it happens for every target I try
15:08:47	J-23	where can I get bitmaps for RockCalendar?
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16:16:34	jonscrut	I have sansa c200 which I have just updated with latest current build. It won't read the fmpreset file which I have in a folder called "fmpresets" - anyone know why?
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16:18:07	JdGordon	how old was the previous version you had on?
16:18:21	jonscrut	i'm not sure exactly, about a month or so
16:18:47	jonscrut	I've tried some old builds but they don't seem to work either
16:19:01	JdGordon	you might just have to recreate them
16:19:34	jonscrut	There's nothing that should be in the config file then?
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16:29:13	pixelma	jonscrut: did it work before, did you try other files (maybe from the wiki), how do you load the preset file and what is your "mode" setting set to?
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16:32:08	pixelma	I meant the mode setting in the radio screen for the latter
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18:36:40	gevaerts	desowin_: any chance you could do some testing on the sansa OF with your printer to see what exactly goes wrong, and if it's the same problem that rockbox has?
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18:46:12	funman	hi
18:47:03	funman	I'm looking for the help of a kernel coder
18:47:29	funman	I wonder if we need to activate any part of the system before accessing the raw nand device on a SoC
18:48:08	funman	I read the datasheet of the SoC (ams3525) and it doesnt mention we need to handle interrupt requests
18:48:26	funman	+ in all the nand drivers I have read it's not handled
18:48:40	funman	but something else might be needed I don't think about
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18:49:00	funman	For now I only activate the nand chip clock, but it's not sufficient
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18:52:16	bertrik	maybe the nand clock is derived from the main or cpu clock, so you may have to set that too
18:52:49	bertrik	and perhaps set device enable bit
18:53:06	bertrik	but I'm not familiar enough with the ams chips
18:53:32	funman	once the nand clock bit is set, I use the nand registers to power it on, but I don't enable a main clock, I'll look into it
18:53:50	funman	the documentation for them is available on demand only and not redistributable
18:59:53	funman	hum on something else: it seems some people answer in the sansav2 forum thread but delete their answers before I check the thread
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19:00:07	bertrik	I'd like to have a look at that documentation
19:01:07	gevaerts	funman: there's a lot of junk on the v2s that gets deleted on sight (When will the port be ready? Does it run yet on the v2?...)
19:01:26	funman	dedicated forum mods ;)
19:02:03	LambdaCalculus37	That's practically what we are. ;)
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19:23:40	*	amiconn has a suspicion what might cause the init problem on the Transcend 4GB MMC when cold-plugged
19:26:04	*	bertrik is curious
19:26:09	bertrik	not trying the init sequence long enough?
19:26:27	amiconn	I suspect a firmware bug in the MMC's firmware
19:27:26	amiconn	An MMC switches to SPI mode when it receives a CMD0 (GO_IDLE_STATE) while /CS is active.
19:27:56	amiconn	Usually this can be done any time after power on, but once in SPI mode you cannot get back into MMC mode without power cycling
19:28:28	amiconn	It seems that the Transcend also refuses to go to SPI mode if it already received a CMD0 mode in what it thinks is MMC mode
19:29:38	amiconn	And the Ondio's internal flash (which is basically an MMC) is inited first, meaning the Transcend "sees" a CMD0 with its /CS unasserted
19:30:04	amiconn	Unfortunately we can't do much if this is actually the case
19:30:36	*	gevaerts assumes that firmware-upgradable MMC cards are rather rare
19:31:06	amiconn	I should soon know for sure; I'm building an Ondio build without hotplug and multivolume support for testing
19:32:08	amiconn	Bah, linker error. Building like this wasn't tested for quite some time it seems...
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19:33:20	markun	gevaerts: the meizu code works perferctly now!
19:33:33	gevaerts	markun: great!
19:34:03	markun	What's next? initialise the driver IC and the internal LCD logic?
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19:34:42	gevaerts	markun: I noticed that inits/s6d0154.txt contains the wrong init sequence. It doesn't match what's on meizume, and also doesn't make sense when looking at the datasheet
19:34:49	amiconn	A non-multivolume Ondio build decides at startup whether to use the MMC or the internal flash. If such a build resides in EEPROM, it will initialise the MMC without accessing the internal flash before.
19:35:05	markun	gevaerts: yes, I guess I copied the wrong one
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19:35:50	gevaerts	The "correct" one also does something weird however : it sets register 0x92, which doesn't appear in the datasheet
19:36:06	gevaerts	I've checked the OF, and it really does, so it's not a typo
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19:36:12	markun	hm
19:36:43	markun	so first try with and later see if it still work without
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19:40:10	gevaerts	markun: I just committed the OF init sequence. I'm not sure if we're supposed to see anything when running it though
19:40:25	amiconn	Hmm. My suspicion points in the right direction, but it's not a 100% match
19:40:32	markun	gevaerts: you didn't try it first?
19:40:49	gevaerts	I did, but I didn't see anything :)
19:41:01	markun	ah ;)
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19:41:11	amiconn	The Transcend MMC works with the non-multivolume build when cold-plugged, but then it also works after USB, which doesn't match my theory
19:41:25	markun	gevaerts: so check the OF to see how they set up the LCD logic registers
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19:43:07	markun	gevaerts: should be the same for all LCD driver ICs, right?
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19:43:25	gevaerts	Not sure.
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21:03:32	amiconn	Yay! My theory was correct :D
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21:06:05	*	amiconn already has a partially working fix
21:06:45	amiconn	It looks like the Transcend gets confused by all the SPI mode talk going to the internal flash while it's still in MMC mode itself
21:07:04	amiconn	So the fix is to make sure the MMC is initialised first if present
21:07:27	amiconn	Once it's in SPI mode, it no longer gets confused
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21:08:03	amiconn	It works on cold-plug now, but not after USB. Worse still, after USB I get a mount panic now
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21:13:39	neal	hi. I've installed rockbox on my ipod and generated the database. It tells me that I have to reboot for it to take effect, however, I cannot find how to reboot the ipod.
21:14:17	homielowe	neal: Which ipod do you have it installed on?
21:16:29	neal	4th gen
21:16:56	bluebrother	shut it down, then start it again
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21:17:14	neal	I couldn't find a menu item for shutdown either
21:17:25	bluebrother	hold plaz
21:17:31	bluebrother	*play
21:17:46	neal	got it, thanks
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21:21:43	gevaerts	There seems to be some maximum code size that I can upload to the meizu and run from RAM...
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21:26:24	gevaerts	Does rockbox currently have special support for LCDs that allow to update parts of the screen?
21:27:02	amiconn	That doesn't need "special" support. Rockbox does this for ages
21:27:08	amiconn	lcd_update_rect()
21:27:36	gevaerts	Not that I need this right now, still trying to get anything at all out of it...
21:28:21	amiconn	In fact this is standard for all LCD controllers
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21:29:40	BrianR___	Is the accessory serial port working in rockbox with the newer ipod models?
21:30:53	LambdaCalculus37	Rockbox doesn't even run on newer iPod models. Only the mini, 1st gen nano, and up to the iPod video work with Rockbox.
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21:47:03	*	toffe82 just win the t400 for 6$ shipping include, hoping the lcd is working :)
21:47:44	toffe82	wrong Channel ;)
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22:24:13	gevaerts	markun: from what I understand the way the OF sets up the S6D0154 means that it uses the LCD controller from the S5L8700 to keep it provided with data. I didn't manage to get anything shown using SPI
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23:07:09	Dosu_Tivien	Is anyone available to help a new user out?
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23:07:42	advcomp2019	Dosu_Tivien, just ask
23:07:49	Dosu_Tivien	Well, my problem is kinda weird.
23:08:00	Dosu_Tivien	I have an iPod Mini, 2nd Gen.
23:08:16	Dosu_Tivien	I installed Rockbox on it a little while ago, and plugged it into my USB port a few minutes later
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23:08:40	Dosu_Tivien	The computer senses a "New hardware device" labels it Drive E:, asks I insert media, and then the iPod freezes at the rockbox main screen.
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23:09:04	Dosu_Tivien	I'm wondering what the key combo is to force the thing to restart.
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23:09:07	Dosu_Tivien	if there is one...
23:09:20	gevaerts	Dosu_Tivien: menu-select
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23:10:05	Dosu_Tivien	Thanks.
23:10:13	gevaerts	Hold them for a while
23:10:42	Dosu_Tivien	It rebooted
23:10:59	Dosu_Tivien	Now I can put music on it the way I want. Thanks, guys
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23:13:44	Mf_Gh	i have some questions about rockbox and the cowno d2 player...does rockbox support tv out...and is it possible to play videos with higher resolution than 320x240?
23:14:17	gevaerts	I don't think tv out works right now
23:14:59	gevaerts	And actually the flash support is not good enough yet to make the d2 port really usable
23:15:42	Mf_Gh	what you mean with not relly usable?
23:16:52	gevaerts	The flash is read-only, so no saving settings and things like that, and even the read support is unreliable so you need some luck to actually be able to read the files on there
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23:18:45	Mf_Gh	ok...than i have to wait and hope...would be great to get it working with tv out and higher resolution...i mean 640x480 would look great on tv but 320x240 are too less pixels to get a good picture on tv
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23:55:29	tal24	hi
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23:55:51	tal24	anyone here have a 3rd gen ipod
23:56:14	tal24	i installed rockbox on mine and it copletly ruined it
23:56:39	advcomp2019	tal24, what is wrong?
23:56:50	Soap	the iPods are nay invulnerable. Let's get a report on the exact steps you too, tal24, and what your symptoms are.
23:56:51	tal24	it gets stuck
23:57:04	Soap	Ok, a little more verbose than that.
23:57:06	tal24	i put i a certain build
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23:57:22	tal24	and then when i press menu to start it gets stuck on the first screen
23:57:42	tal24	and now my comp wont even recognize the ipod so i can reset it
23:57:49	Soap	Please speak in complete sentences, tal24. Also please be precise in your descriptions of what instructions, programs, and build you used.
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23:58:12	Soap	Also be precise in your descriptions of what is said on your iPod's screen.
23:58:46	tal24	sorry soap i installed the build a couple of months ago i will get the info in a sec

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