| 00:00:03 | bluebrother | you can't see them in the virtual keyboard ;-) |
| 00:00:21 | XavierGr | bluebrother: ah lol, well you can count the presses :P |
| 00:00:55 | bluebrother | true, but users will be annoyed about that ;-) |
| 00:01:14 | bluebrother | Maybe better make it a hidden setting :) |
| 00:01:29 | Buschel | saratoga: will do, if i find the time. your results are quite interesting and promising :-) |
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| 00:01:42 | Buschel | bye for now and see you later |
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| 00:03:09 | XavierGr | bluebrother: will try to make it tomorrow, seems that way all will be pleased. |
| 00:03:51 | n1s | bluebrother, XavierGr imho hidden settings are not nice, I know we have some but i don't think we should add more |
| 00:04:23 | XavierGr | n1s: it can be done as a normal setting too |
| 00:04:44 | bluebrother | n1s: I agree. That comment wasn't meant completely serious |
| 00:04:49 | XavierGr | and I can't say I am in favour of hidden settings |
| 00:04:57 | n1s | I would prefer that (even though i will never use it) |
| 00:05:37 | * | bluebrother would like to see the inline settings things again A_M did ... like 2 years ago or so |
| 00:07:27 | XavierGr | n1s: my current scrolling problem is that I can't focus on the string, missing the start of it. In the end I can't read it when I don't look closely |
| 00:08:01 | XavierGr | Having a padding in scrolling text (a recognisable pattern or simple space) enables me to recognize the end/start of the string more easily |
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| 00:08:17 | n1s | XavierGr: i don't have that problem as i use a pretty small font and short filenames |
| 00:08:44 | XavierGr | n1s: well obviously you don't use your player in a car and you don't listen to classical music :P |
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| 00:08:55 | n1s | i'm not against it at all as i can see it being useful for some |
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| 00:10:16 | n1s | visually impaired users could perhaps benefit too, they are likely to use large fonts so keeping track of start/end will be harder and an easy to recognize pattern would seem practical |
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| 00:12:10 | XavierGr | yup it turns out to be a good idea |
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| 00:12:32 | n1s | anyway, goodnight! :) |
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| 00:13:35 | EternalRains | I'm having an idea for a WPS for my c250 using the silk ( http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png [Warning 1MB file!]) icons. For the repeat a-b, do you think I should use one of the arrow_ images or derive something from them? |
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| 00:15:59 | amiconn | saratoga (logs): Afaics the graphs just show that the cores consume a relatively small part of the total power consumption |
| 00:16:11 | amiconn | Sleeping them when not in use is still a good thing |
| 00:17:42 | amiconn | XavierGr: I do use my player(s) in the car and I often do have rather long scrolling lines, yet I never had a problem with the scroll spacing... |
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| 00:20:29 | amiconn | saratoga (logs): It would be interesting to do the same test but with wheel lights and audio codec disabled |
| 00:20:52 | amiconn | That still leaves the RAM as a consumer though |
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| 00:30:46 | * | amiconn thinks it would be better to handle mono recording (and the new mode) in pcm instead of the encoders |
| 00:31:08 | Waldo000000 | re: the scrolling, why not just have a few spaces, let's say...5? why does this need to be a setting? whose needs would 5 spaces not meet? |
| 00:31:56 | amiconn | Waldo000000: Atm it does just that (3 spaces) |
| 00:33:24 | Waldo000000 | amiconn: ah. then a setting for the number of spaces would be my vote. don't see any need for any characters other than a space |
| 00:34:27 | * | amiconn doesn't see the need for the setting either, but a simple option might not be too bad |
| 00:36:00 | Waldo000000 | "Spaces between scrolling names", default 3 |
| 00:36:21 | Waldo000000 | (imho) |
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| 00:41:50 | XavierGr | well that's the problem, spaces are enough for me, but other people would want something else. If it is going to be a setting it wouldn't hurt more to make the user input his string. Binsize wise it should be almost the same |
| 00:42:51 | sjek | evening, was on a few days ago. Installed rockbox (latest build) on a 1stgen nano, left it on to charge and it became irresponsive an hour later. No backlight, not recognised by computer, wont boot at all. Tried menu+select for 120s, no response. It was suggested that it was a problem with the battery running too low and I should leave it to charge. It's been charging (from a powered usb hub) for 48 hours, still unresponsive, me |
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| 01:07:17 | Waldo000000 | XavierGr: who are these "other people"? |
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| 01:27:47 | soap | Bagder, why does my build server appear to always have a "total time" of about half the other servers? I feel as if I'm slacking. ;) |
| 01:33:20 | XavierGr | Waldo00000: fml said he wanted "+++" because winamp does it, also bluebrother said something similar (and later had the idea of custom padding string) |
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| 01:36:18 | Waldo000001 | XavierGr: i see. sounds like overkill to me, imho. and i would have thought "+++" would not make it much easier to read. just my two cents |
| 01:37:34 | XavierGr | I've already written code for pixel width setting, so adapting it to a custom string shouldn't be so difficult. |
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| 01:38:49 | Waldo000001 | yeah. no worries :) |
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| 01:56:30 | MndFlayr | I want to buy a new mp3-player. Since rockbox does not (officially) support any player currently on sale, I wonder which one is most likely to get supported. |
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| 01:56:53 | MndFlayr | I am currently considering one of the following: sansa e200 v2, cowon d2, creative zen x-fi |
| 01:57:53 | MndFlayr | at the moment the d2 seems the best choice, as it is able to play ogg's even without rockbox. Also it seems that its rockbox-port seems to be the most progressed of the three. |
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| 02:01:43 | MndFlayr | Is there any chance of a working zen or e200v2-port in the near future? |
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| 08:35:41 | amiconn | B4gder: I am wondering about my build server. The stats show that it usually does 2 builds. However, /home/rbclient only contains one build-* directory that was touched recently. The others were last touched months ago |
| 08:38:05 | amiconn | Also, there aren't as many build-* directories as I would expect given how long this server is already part of the build system |
| 08:39:10 | amiconn | Hmm, does the build system usually remove the build-* directories, and it's just that this didn't work a few times? |
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| 08:43:37 | * | amiconn found the buildmaster log says so |
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| 08:47:42 | B4gder | yes, it removes the build dir |
| 08:49:28 | amiconn | So that sometimes doesn't work |
| 08:50:06 | B4gder | yeah |
| 08:50:13 | B4gder | obviously |
| 08:50:25 | B4gder | I wonder if those are just connection problems |
| 08:50:59 | B4gder | on my server, there's only one left after April |
| 08:51:26 | amiconn | My last one was from 7 Oct. The others were from April (most even from 2007) |
| 08:51:36 | amiconn | I've cleaned them now |
| 08:51:37 | B4gder | Oct 7 on mine too |
| 08:52:23 | amiconn | 22:30-ish. Maybe that happens when the master hangs and the build is restarted? |
| 08:52:36 | B4gder | yes seems like it might be that |
| 08:52:52 | B4gder | around 22:30 for me too |
| 08:53:13 | B4gder | oh and yes that's why |
| 08:53:52 | B4gder | the restart is done by the build master script just doing exit, so it won't even try to cleanup remainders |
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| 09:40:17 | Waldo000000 | i'm playing an mpeg movie on my m:robe100 using mpegplayer, but it is not automatically resized to fit, i.e. only the top left corner of the clip is visible on screen. i'm assuming mpegplayer does not automatically resize videos? is there any information or automated way to prepare mpeg clips for playing using mpegplayer? |
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| 09:40:46 | B4gder | Waldo000000: see the wiki page for the mpeg player plugin |
| 09:41:19 | Waldo000000 | B4gder: yep sorry, there now. should have known, cheers |
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| 09:59:59 | alpineSponsee | hey! |
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| 10:00:20 | alpineSponsee | i have an awesome question....that i cant seem to find an answer for anywhere... |
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| 10:00:52 | alpineSponsee | can anyone help me out with it? |
| 10:00:59 | scorche | not if you dont ask it... |
| 10:01:26 | alpineSponsee | oh...ok, just makin sure people were in here...i have an alpine head unit in my car tha has a direct iPod connection... |
| 10:01:40 | alpineSponsee | and its made to search whatever you plug into it for music... |
| 10:01:47 | BigBambi | alpineSponsee: please just ask next time |
| 10:02:16 | alpineSponsee | so i cna plug an external harddrive in it...and it will find the music on the external display and play it, etc...if i rockbox...can i play FLAC in my car? |
| 10:02:23 | alpineSponsee | ...this may sound confusing... |
| 10:02:43 | B4gder | if it plays from an external harddrive, then how would rockbox affect it? |
| 10:02:49 | BigBambi | Only if your head unit plays FLAC |
| 10:03:00 | BigBambi | The ipod is just acting like a hard drive at this point |
| 10:03:23 | BigBambi | If you have an aux in, the yes, Rockbox will help |
| 10:04:43 | alpineSponsee | yeah, im pretty sure it just uses the ipod as a hdd to find mp3s....so i can only play mp3s than right? |
| 10:04:50 | alpineSponsee | that sucks....i really wanna play flac |
| 10:04:51 | alpineSponsee | grr |
| 10:05:21 | alpineSponsee | can anyone reccomend the best conversion to covert FLAC to to get the quality (best mp3 conversion) |
| 10:05:21 | BigBambi | You can only do whatever your headunit can do |
| 10:05:35 | BigBambi | MP3 to FLAC will never be better than the MP3 |
| 10:05:45 | alpineSponsee | i meant FLAC to mp3 |
| 10:05:50 | BigBambi | You cqn't make the bits you threw away when converting to MP3 come back |
| 10:06:06 | BigBambi | alpineSponsee: LAME, but this is off topic now |
| 10:06:22 | alpineSponsee | no, i have a library of FLAC files.... |
| 10:06:30 | alpineSponsee | and its not like anyone else is really talking... |
| 10:06:37 | alpineSponsee | im jsut lookin for audio help |
| 10:06:37 | BigBambi | irrelevent |
| 10:06:38 | alpineSponsee | sorry |
| 10:06:41 | alpineSponsee | jerk |
| 10:07:07 | BigBambi | This is a logged support and development channel. People read the logs, which we don't want to be full of non-relevant stuff |
| 10:07:08 | advcomp2019 | alpineSponsee, please read the guidelines please |
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| 10:08:19 | BigBambi | I wonder if he thought I was calling him LAME, not saying use LAME the encoder :) |
| 10:08:37 | scorche | BigBambi: tis what i thought |
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| 10:34:28 | Zagor | all harddrives support look-ahead. no flash cards do. |
| 10:34:44 | Zagor | (of those in the list) |
| 10:35:22 | Zagor | word 82, bit 6 |
| 10:36:40 | Waldo000000 | am i right in understanding that the definitions in pluginlib_actions.h (PLA_UP, PLA_DOWN, etc) be used in new plugins rather than BUTTON_*, where possible? |
| 10:37:03 | Zagor | Waldo000000: if suitable |
| 10:37:09 | Waldo000000 | and that's to encourage consistency between plugins? |
| 10:37:26 | Waldo000000 | Zagor: can you give an example where that wouldn't be suitable? |
| 10:37:52 | BigBambi | Waldo000000: ask pixelma about problems in the plugin button library |
| 10:38:08 | Zagor | Waldo000000: some plugins are so complex they cannot use the same button mapping for all targets. targets differ very much in their button sets. |
| 10:38:13 | BigBambi | I know she has encountered some and should be able to give good examples |
| 10:39:16 | pixelma | huh, I could only give examples where that PLA system does not work |
| 10:39:33 | BigBambi | That's what I meant |
| 10:39:45 | pixelma | very few plugins are suitable for this in my opinion |
| 10:41:41 | pixelma | try metronome on c200/Ondio/Player - it is not fully controllable and with the combining of PLA contexts and the definitions hidden away in another file it is even hard to find out what happens (and what not) |
| 10:41:44 | Waldo000000 | so....are you saying that pluginlib_actions.c essentially has errors (or omissions)? If it had no errors, then you could safely use the PLA_* as defined in pluginlib_actions.h - right? |
| 10:43:39 | Waldo000000 | pixelma: can't you just search for "SANSA_C200_PAD" in the .c file, to find the 17 or so definitions for the PLA_* names? |
| 10:43:44 | pixelma | as Zagor said, this simplification seems to not be working in real life and leads to - not working correctly things and obfuscation are button maps that are not as good (intuitive) as could be because this system does not allow this |
| 10:44:14 | pixelma | or changes to it would break another plugin |
| 10:45:26 | Waldo000000 | pixelma: do you think this is because some details in pluginlib_actions.c need to be adjusted, or that there is a problem with the approach to begin with? if the latter, what do you think is a better approach? |
| 10:46:34 | pixelma | Waldo000000: sure but this does not simply explain why things are not working because the same button is mapped to different actions, used in different contexts and people started combining contexts (in the plugin) and this gives problems |
| 10:47:44 | pixelma | I think that approach doesn't work for most plugins, only a few - and if it is used people should not use more than one context |
| 10:49:18 | pixelma | the plugins with different control schemes and players with different placement of buttons and technical limitations are just too many for such a generic approch (in my eyes) |
| 10:50:08 | Waldo000000 | "more than one context"? sorry, i'm just starting out with plugins here, reading HowtoVerifyPlugins, which suggests using PLA - how do you suggest i approach the issue of button mapping, as a first time plugin developer? |
| 10:51:09 | pixelma | I would not use PLA unless the plugin has a simple left/right/up/down/select control scheme |
| 10:51:47 | pixelma | otherwise define button mappings in the plugin itself |
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| 10:52:47 | linuxstb | I think even that can break on targets with wheels - i.e. when do you use the wheel for directional movement, and when not? |
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| 10:54:39 | pixelma | well, just use PLA when you want to use the buttons for directional movement then... ;) something like this was discussed at the developers conference |
| 10:54:40 | Waldo000000 | pixelma: and by "define button mappings in the plugin itself", you mean, for each target (with a bunch of if CONFIG_KEYPAD == ...) with #define DO_SOMETHING BUTTON_*, right? |
| 10:55:28 | pixelma | yes, mainly |
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| 10:57:16 | Waldo000000 | interesting. so, given that i have an mr100 (only), if i was to write a plugin, i would have to "guess" the appropriate button mappings for other targets, for example by looking at other plugin's code, or relying on others to fill it in |
| 10:57:23 | pixelma | linuxstb: the wheel for directional movement problem is even bigger - sometimes the wheel might be suited better for left/right (e.g. in Bubbles) sometimes better for up/down |
| 10:57:52 | linuxstb | pixelma: Exactly. |
| 10:58:47 | BigBambi | Waldo000000: You can look in the manual for layout etc |
| 10:59:20 | Waldo000000 | BigBambi: k, thanks. |
| 10:59:26 | Waldo000000 | thanks all, interesting. see yas later |
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| 10:59:30 | pixelma | Waldo000000: currently yes, but with PLA it's not given that you will get a better solution - it could be that the controls aren't working (at least partially) or are really awkward |
| 10:59:35 | pixelma | meh |
| 10:59:43 | Zagor | that was quick... |
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| 11:01:15 | pixelma | an idea was to set up a wiki page which explains buttons on different targets (e.g. also electrical or mechanical limitations) and the different screens too |
| 11:01:55 | pixelma | of course that'll need some time to do it :) |
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| 11:08:11 | Zagor | pixelma: I like that idea |
| 11:10:20 | linuxstb | pixelma: Does the manual include text describing the button layout of a device and how they are generally used in Rockbox? Maybe something could be automated from there. |
| 11:13:13 | pixelma | there are the players' SVGs which label the buttons and the description for the blind. I don't think there is an explanation about how they are used generally and no description of restrictions (things like no button combos except with "Power", so pretty useless, on the X5/M5 pad etc.) |
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| 12:01:25 | mcuelenaere | B4gder: would it be possible to run the plugin API documentation generator on the server every time docs/PLUGIN_API.new gets updated? |
| 12:01:39 | B4gder | sure |
| 12:01:46 | mcuelenaere | cool |
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| 12:11:36 | pixelma | mcuelenaere: when I skimmed the site you linked from the tracker entry I noticed that there was no HAVE_BACKLIGHT in the backlight related part, is there now or did I overlook it? |
| 12:12:03 | pixelma | no mention of it, I mean |
| 12:12:40 | mcuelenaere | hmm still none it seems |
| 12:12:44 | mcuelenaere | probably a bug |
| 12:13:31 | mcuelenaere | ah no there isn't any mentioning of it in plugin.h |
| 12:13:37 | mcuelenaere | so that's why there's none |
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| 12:21:09 | pixelma | does that mean that a few things could be included in stock Ondio builds that don't necessarily have to be there? |
| 12:21:31 | pixelma | s/could/are |
| 12:21:42 | mcuelenaere | perhaps, but they are just pointers so they don't take much binsize |
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| 12:49:05 | JdGordon | does anyone have any objections to 9460? (voulem button tag for the wps)? |
| 12:49:11 | * | JdGordon wants to commit it tonight |
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| 13:03:15 | Dementio | anyone know how i can find out what specifically "DEV_RS = 0x3ffdfef8" means? |
| 13:04:19 | * | B4gder finds it amusing that the C64 plugin author's primary concern seems to the keyboard, not emulating C64 |
| 13:04:32 | Dementio | lol |
| 13:04:35 | LinusN | B4gder: my reaction too |
| 13:04:48 | Dementio | it may not work, but at least you can type |
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| 13:05:51 | Zagor | Dementio: those registers are undocumented |
| 13:06:02 | Dementio | damn |
| 13:06:23 | Zagor | that's the boring thing with working on the ipods |
| 13:06:40 | Dementio | more like aggrivating |
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| 13:08:37 | Dementio | cause i really can't think of any way to test other values other than randomly changing it |
| 13:11:21 | Zagor | Dementio: well others have experimented a lot before, and may provide some clues. bushel for example experimented a lot when trying to increase battery life. I don't know how much he wrote down what he found. |
| 13:12:13 | Dementio | i'm just trying to get it so that the battery life is still good, but doesn't lock up on some cards |
| 13:14:37 | amiconn | pixelma, mcuelenaere: The backlight functions are included on purpose in stock Ondio builds. The actual functions are empty |
| 13:15:12 | amiconn | This is to ensure api compatibility between stock Ondio builds and backlight-mod Ondio builds |
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| 13:18:15 | Zagor | Dementio: see firmware/export/pp5020.h, around line 140. |
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| 13:19:51 | Dementio | k |
| 13:20:07 | Dementio | now i just have to find out what "(*(volatile unsigned long *)(0x60006004))" ,eams |
| 13:20:10 | Dementio | lol |
| 13:20:19 | Dementio | *means |
| 13:20:40 | B4gder | that means it'll write to that address |
| 13:20:44 | Zagor | Dementio: it's just where in memory that register is. |
| 13:20:50 | Dementio | ah |
| 13:21:05 | Dementio | ok, now for the easy part |
| 13:21:07 | Dementio | learning C |
| 13:21:08 | Dementio | lol |
| 13:21:55 | Zagor | those bitmasks below show what each bit of those registers control |
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| 14:03:56 | mikem` | hi, trying to install rockbox on linux using the RoxBox Utility... but get an error "Could not open Ipod in RW mode". i probably need to mount it a certain way? |
| 14:04:13 | JdGordon | or run as root |
| 14:05:13 | mikem` | JdGordon: that's scary |
| 14:05:16 | mikem` | but it works :) |
| 14:05:18 | mikem` | thanks |
| 14:05:42 | BigBambi | It needs raw access to the disk to install the bootloader |
| 14:12:37 | n1s | dionoea: any reason to not commit FS #9209 ? |
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| 14:29:34 | mcuelenaere | B4gder: could you trigger utils/rockbox_api/gen_html.php every time docs/PLUGIN_API.new is updated? |
| 14:29:48 | mcuelenaere | and trigger utils/rockbox_api/update.php every time apps/plugin.h gets updated? |
| 14:29:59 | B4gder | I'll just rerun it daily |
| 14:30:02 | mcuelenaere | or perhaps that last one not, as that needs committing |
| 14:30:17 | mcuelenaere | ah ok, even better |
| 14:30:24 | mcuelenaere | where will you place the output? |
| 14:30:38 | B4gder | not sure atm, I'll have a go at it tonight I think |
| 14:30:56 | mcuelenaere | ok thanks |
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| 14:33:48 | * | GodEater mutters about http access for git being higher on B4gder's list. or at least it should be. |
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| 14:46:41 | robin0800 | tried to set up a build enviroment and the error is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/55618/ note this is kubuntu 10 which is beta |
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| 14:53:10 | GodEater | 10? |
| 14:53:19 | GodEater | does that mean Intrepid ? |
| 14:53:25 | BigBambi | I take it a) you are asking for help and b) you mean 8.10 |
| 14:55:46 | robin0800 | GodEater: yes intrepid |
| 14:56:16 | BigBambi | It really is helpful to use the actual version numbers for things |
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| 14:56:38 | robin0800 | BigBambi: sorry |
| 14:57:25 | BigBambi | You might also get more responses if you actually asked for help, and didn't just say "This doesn't work" People have to want to help you know :) |
| 14:57:51 | GodEater | robin0800: also, 32 or 64bit ? |
| 14:58:15 | GodEater | or some other arch completely ? |
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| 15:00:03 | robin0800 | BigBambi: I realy like 8.10 but cannot build the development enviroment - its 32 bit hp latop compaq nc 6000 |
| 15:00:45 | markun | BigBambi: and when someone asks for help we tell them "you don't have to ask, just post your problem and someone will eventually help: ;) |
| 15:01:21 | Zagor | robin0800: Ubuntu has switched their default CPP flags to include -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2, which seems to be the cause of this |
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| 15:01:32 | GodEater | robin0800: which target architecture are you building there ? |
| 15:01:42 | BigBambi | markun: I know - I didn't ask him to ask, I just pointed out that his original way of putting it was rather abrupt and may not dispose people to help |
| 15:01:53 | * | GodEater guesses arm, but wants to make sure |
| 15:01:58 | robin0800 | BigBambi: This works on 8.04 but not 8.10 |
| 15:02:22 | BigBambi | robin0800: Looks like Zagor has a likly candidate |
| 15:02:28 | Zagor | robin0800: yes, -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 was enabled in 8.10 |
| 15:03:08 | markun | Zagor: is this a bug in the GCC code? |
| 15:03:27 | robin0800 | GodEater: yes arm |
| 15:03:56 | Zagor | markun: I think so yes |
| 15:04:39 | Zagor | creat() is called without mode argument |
| 15:04:52 | markun | so I guess we'll have to add another patch.. |
| 15:05:15 | markun | unless we can switch to a newer version of GCC where this is fixed but which doesn't produce slower code. |
| 15:05:35 | GodEater | robin0800: in the meantime, I suspect "CPPFLAGS=-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE ./rockboxdev.sh" might help |
| 15:06:13 | Zagor | robin0800: yes, please try GodEater's suggestion first |
| 15:07:20 | robin0800 | Zagor: will do it |
| 15:07:35 | * | GodEater is also trying it to make sure |
| 15:07:47 | GodEater | lucky I'm also on Intrepid ;) |
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| 15:09:13 | GodEater | Zagor: if it works, does it hurt to include that flag in rockboxdev.sh by default ? |
| 15:10:18 | Zagor | GodEater: I doubt it. afaik it's normally disabled and that has worked quite a while... |
| 15:10:26 | GodEater | cool |
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| 15:10:30 | GodEater | will be a nice easy fix then if it works |
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| 15:13:26 | robin0800 | Zagor: its running now, note its seems slower on 8.10 than 8.04, will let you know when it finishes |
| 15:17:29 | GodEater | who cares if it's slower or not ? |
| 15:17:36 | GodEater | as long as you end up with a build environment |
| 15:18:13 | GodEater | how did you manage to go from Hardy to Intrepid and break the environment you had already anyway ? |
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| 15:20:46 | robin0800 | GodEater: i didn't it's a clean install |
| 15:21:01 | GodEater | oh |
| 15:21:05 | GodEater | why did you do that ? |
| 15:21:16 | pondlife | Hello all. |
| 15:21:27 | Zagor | hi |
| 15:21:50 | pondlife | In an attempt to save some binsize, I made some enum fields into unsigned chars, rather than ints. |
| 15:22:06 | pondlife | http://www.pastebin.ca/1223692 |
| 15:22:17 | pondlife | Sadly this appears to make the bin bigger |
| 15:22:24 | pondlife | Anyone able to educate me? |
| 15:22:45 | Zagor | pondlife: which target? |
| 15:22:47 | pondlife | H300 |
| 15:23:14 | pondlife | It shrinks the RAM total (in rockbox-info.txt), but grows the binary. |
| 15:23:30 | GodEater | that's clever of you |
| 15:23:46 | robin0800 | GodEater: because at present I'm only slowly getting into linux and have nothig important that needs to be kept on this laptop |
| 15:24:11 | GodEater | upgrading from one distro version to another is an important thing to learn ;) |
| 15:24:18 | pondlife | Me? Clever? Never. |
| 15:24:27 | GodEater | and ideally attempted when you have nothing important ;) |
| 15:24:33 | n1s | pondlife: iirc that's because loading/storing a char requires more code (not sure what exactly, perhaps a whole work load plus mask) |
| 15:24:34 | GodEater | pondlife: you hide it well ;) |
| 15:24:39 | Zagor | wild speculation: some cpus don't have 8/16-bit access functions and instead solves such operations with 32-bit access and bitmasking. |
| 15:24:52 | n1s | s/work/word/ |
| 15:25:01 | Zagor | I've worked on some arms like that. don't know how the core in h300 is though |
| 15:25:05 | pondlife | That would make sense... so no amount of casting could help. |
| 15:25:36 | GodEater | pondlife: is the binsize on the H300 troubling you that much ? |
| 15:25:47 | pondlife | No, but every bit helps |
| 15:25:56 | GodEater | helps to do what ? |
| 15:26:03 | pondlife | Save battery, ultimately |
| 15:26:15 | pondlife | Or make more room for nice features |
| 15:26:28 | GodEater | which you can complain about the binsize price for? :) |
| 15:26:42 | pondlife | Not if I like the feature ;) |
| 15:27:02 | * | GodEater tries to remember the last feature that pondlife liked |
| 15:27:07 | n1s | pondlife: also in a struct, gcc will align the char to int size because it is between two ints so you save 3 bytes but add 3 bytes of padding there |
| 15:28:13 | * | pondlife remembers liking metadata-on-buffer... |
| 15:28:28 | * | n1s sees now that one of the struct vars is a pointer so it does of course not apply there |
| 15:28:47 | pondlife | Indeed. But maybe some of the others could be smaller. |
| 15:28:51 | * | GodEater remembers pondlife not liking all the initial bugs with it though ;) |
| 15:29:19 | n1s | btw I managed to save several kB's of ram in some wps structs by storing enums in chars a while ago so it can definitely be worth it |
| 15:29:23 | pondlife | hehe, no.. I miss them and occastionally run old revs just for nostagia's sake. |
| 15:29:30 | * | Zagor subtly suggests pondlife could spend his efforts on more useful things :) |
| 15:29:31 | GodEater | hahahaha |
| 15:30:53 | pondlife | Zagor: No worries - I've learnt something |
| 15:31:09 | * | pondlife svn reverts |
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| 15:35:05 | Dementio | anyone use the wikipedia patch? |
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| 15:35:48 | robin0800 | Zagor: yes that fixes it happy days |
| 15:36:07 | * | GodEater suggests a patch to rockboxdev.sh is in order then |
| 15:37:03 | Zagor | either that or another gcc patch :) |
| 15:38:38 | GodEater | fwiw, you get build warnings on a standard rockbox build too, I suspect because of the same issue |
| 15:39:04 | Zagor | I'd say a gcc patch is the better option then |
| 15:41:04 | GodEater | that wouldn't apply to the host's gcc though |
| 15:41:11 | robin0800 | GodEater: its making now there are a few warnings of fwrite and fread at the begining |
| 15:41:34 | GodEater | yes, on building the rdfbinary etc. |
| 15:41:42 | GodEater | which are built with the host's gcc |
| 15:41:46 | GodEater | not the arm one |
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| 15:45:34 | robin0800 | GodEater: will a patch to rockboxdev.sh fix the warnings? |
| 15:46:30 | GodEater | no |
| 15:46:40 | GodEater | that would require a patch to our configure script too |
| 15:48:04 | robin0800 | GodEater: don't think I've seen those warnings before |
| 15:49:58 | GodEater | that's because they weren't there till you upgraded to Intrepid |
| 15:51:40 | robin0800 | GodEater: great another intrepid error |
| 15:52:06 | n1s | amiconn: any chance you could test bootloaders for ipod 1g and 2g in FS #9369 ? (at the very bottom) |
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| 15:54:09 | n1s | s/very// |
| 15:55:04 | n1s | any nano, mini1g, 3g or 4g users who could test too? Or if someone else is around with 1g or 2g |
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| 16:34:55 | dionoea | n1s: if that's the wps tag patch ... not that I know. I can commit if it you want |
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| 16:53:08 | n1s | dionoea: no, the md5 interruption patch |
| 16:53:34 | dionoea | ah, I didn't know about that one. Let me check |
| 16:54:31 | dionoea | I'll apply it |
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| 17:09:18 | GodEater | Nico_P: did you ever get anywhere with #8499 ? |
| 17:09:26 | * | GodEater is trying to make it work, and failing |
| 17:09:47 | dionoea | n1s: done |
| 17:09:53 | dionoea | GodEater: You pinged me 3 days ago |
| 17:09:57 | Nico_P | GodEater: it was quite a long time ago |
| 17:10:17 | Nico_P | (even before my comments on the task) |
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| 17:10:38 | GodEater | Nico_P: I know - but I just thought I'd check |
| 17:10:48 | GodEater | dionoea: it was re: a conversation we were having in -community |
| 17:10:50 | Nico_P | I haven't tried agaon since |
| 17:11:10 | GodEater | about an iphone hacker who's "released" a version of vlc for the iphone under questionable licensing terms |
| 17:11:17 | dionoea | GodEater: ah ok, markun just asked me about it :) |
| 17:11:20 | GodEater | Nico_P: it's a bit painful |
| 17:11:59 | GodEater | I'm currently stuck with this : ../apps/metadata/metadata_common.c:110: error: expected declaration specifiers or ‘...’ before ‘(’ token |
| 17:12:13 | GodEater | which I just plain don't understand, given the line in question |
| 17:12:56 | dionoea | anyone against applying FS #9368? |
| 17:14:03 | n1s | dionoea: great :) |
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| 17:19:54 | n1s | So does anyone have any thoughts on updating the bootloaders, i tried to do just the ones for the ipods in one go but even those seem hard to get tested so i have come up with a few options: 1) Put the whole ipod bunch on the download site even if they are untested on some models 2) Put only the tested ones up, more work for Bagder and more of a mess of old/new versions 3) Give up and keep directing users with cf cards to unofficial bootloaders posted |
| 17:19:55 | n1s | in wiki/forums/tracker 4) Wait for the next devcon (should be one in 'west' soon, right)? |
| 17:22:05 | pixelma | no DevConWest this year, not enough interest I think |
| 17:23:06 | n1s | ah, too bad :/ |
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| 17:24:20 | n1s | Llorean: could you test a new bootloader on your nano? |
| 17:26:18 | n1s | RockboxTesting isn't very helpful since most of the people listed are not/have never been around much in #rockbox |
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| 17:27:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: Ooh, that reminds me! |
| 17:27:09 | * | LambdaCalculus37 goes to get his iPod color |
| 17:27:52 | n1s | LambdaCalculus37: good to hear, color was tested by one guy but more does of course not hurt :) |
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| 17:29:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: I also got my 2G iPod out as well. |
| 17:29:53 | n1s | now that is good news :) |
| 17:30:15 | LambdaCalculus37 | What's the FS# again? |
| 17:30:20 | n1s | 9369 |
| 17:31:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Downloading now |
| 17:31:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | . |
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| 17:33:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: Success. :) |
| 17:33:18 | n1s | great! |
| 17:33:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now for the 2G iPod. |
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| 17:41:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: The bootloader installed successfully; now I have to put my iPod back together. |
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| 17:55:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: 2G iPod is happily booting with the new bootloader. |
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| 18:04:06 | n1s | LambdaCalculus37: great! thanks for testing :) |
| 18:05:39 | n1s | so if we now extrapolate the results and say that 1g is similar to 2g and 4g is similar to color and nano is similar to video and 3g is somewhere between 2g and color and mini1g is basically a mini2g we are covered :) |
| 18:06:37 | n1s | So unless someone objects I suggest we put these up for download soon |
| 18:10:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: iPod 4G includes both the greyscale and color. |
| 18:11:29 | n1s | LambdaCalculus37: i thought '4g' usually referred to the greyscale version and photo/color to the other one, anyways the color one was tested |
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| 18:51:37 | allele | is C# closer to C or C++? |
| 18:52:59 | * | gevaerts looks at the topic to make sure it's still the same |
| 18:53:04 | n1s | allele: what does that have to do with rockbox? |
| 18:53:40 | allele | well rockbox is coded in C and I'm looking at an algorithm in C# I was hoping to implement in a rockbox plugin |
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| 19:00:56 | allele | of course the A* algorithm looks like it would be a little too intense for the platforms rockbox runs on |
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| 19:19:55 | Musume1-2 | Hello rockboxworld |
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| 19:20:29 | bertrik | hey Musume1-2 |
| 19:21:13 | Musume1-2 | quick question about the bootloader on a nano.... anyone gotten a failed attempt when trying to install a bootloader? |
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| 19:23:27 | pixelma | which generation of Nano? What is the exact error message? |
| 19:23:29 | bertrik | I don't know much about ipods. Is your ipod mentioned on the rockbox frontpage as capable of running rockbox? |
| 19:23:54 | Musume1-2 | well it has it listed with the picture on it |
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| 19:24:53 | gevaerts | What sort of error do you get? |
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| 19:25:30 | Musume1-2 | failed to install bootloader |
| 19:26:10 | BigBambi | are you running with admin rights? |
| 19:26:22 | Musume1-2 | yes |
| 19:27:01 | BigBambi | And you are using what OS? And are you using rbutil? |
| 19:27:25 | Musume1-2 | I'm running Xp and yes I'm using Rbutil |
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| 19:29:20 | BigBambi | And the actual install went OK? |
| 19:29:48 | gevaerts | Which colour is your ipod? |
| 19:30:10 | domonoky | Musume1-2: you could to install the bootloader with ipodpatcher, perhaps this gives a better error message, why it failed .. |
| 19:30:15 | Musume1-2 | is a black 4gb with picture capabilities |
| 19:30:57 | Musume1-2 | hm.. lemme try it |
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| 19:32:06 | domonoky | Musume1-2: does the original firmware run ok ? have you modified the ipod before (like installed ipodlinux ? ) |
| 19:32:48 | amiconn | n1s: Bootloader works on the G1 as well |
| 19:33:05 | n1s | amiconn: great, thanks! |
| 19:33:15 | Musume1-2 | nope... no modifications... just original firmware..and it works fine |
| 19:33:16 | amiconn | There's the problem on G1..G3 that the contrast is wrong in the OF, because of our LCD setup |
| 19:33:34 | amiconn | Need to think about a nice solution for this |
| 19:33:44 | n1s | ah |
| 19:34:07 | amiconn | We set up the LCD differently in order to get better level stability and less crosstalk |
| 19:34:44 | n1s | maybe we could avoid touching the lcd setup if booting the OF? |
| 19:35:08 | amiconn | Either that, or restoring the original setup |
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| 19:35:31 | amiconn | The LCD config registers of the greyscale ipods can be read back, except on the mini G2 |
| 19:35:38 | n1s | do you think it is necessary to test the remaining ipods? (3g, 4g gray, mini1g, nano)? |
| 19:36:06 | amiconn | Would be good. Finding a Nano tester shouldn't be difficult imho... |
| 19:36:09 | amiconn | Llorean? |
| 19:36:31 | Musume1-2 | did someone say test? >.< |
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| 19:37:57 | Musume1-2 | for a while I wondered if the version of the firmware on the ipod ... had anything to do with failing to install the bootloader |
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| 19:38:54 | gevaerts | Musume1-2: try installing it using ipodpatcher as domonoky suggested. That should give more useful error messages at least |
| 19:39:27 | Musume1-2 | i'm looking for that prog as we speak |
| 19:39:39 | gevaerts | The manual should have a link |
| 19:39:55 | Musume1-2 | ah.. the manual |
| 19:40:21 | Musume1-2 | I downloaded that.. but I usually dont read manuals too much |
| 19:40:46 | Musume1-2 | I shall take a peek... Thnx... Gevaerts |
| 19:40:48 | bertrik | are we sure yet your ipod support rockbox at all? what generation of nano do you have? |
| 19:41:09 | Musume1-2 | according to what I saw.. its 2nd gen |
| 19:41:27 | Musume1-2 | from what I read on the net |
| 19:42:48 | bertrik | according to the rockbox frontpage nano 2nd gen does not work with rockbox |
| 19:43:51 | pixelma | are there 2nd generation Nanos that come in black? Is the case all metal or does it have a plastic front? |
| 19:44:51 | pixelma | the second question was to Musume1-2... |
| 19:47:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Yes, there are. The 2nd gen nanos with 8GB come in black. |
| 19:47:11 | Musume1-2 | its metal in the back and plastic front |
| 19:48:36 | Musume1-2 | you're right I oversaw the "not" part on the front page |
| 19:48:46 | pixelma | then it should be a 1st generation Nano which could runRockbox |
| 19:49:45 | Musume1-2 | it would be cool if Mp4 style devices could be flashed.. |
| 19:49:49 | Musume1-2 | too |
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| 19:50:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | musumel-2: Is your nano tall and thin, or short and square? |
| 19:50:11 | Musume1-2 | tall and thin |
| 19:50:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | 1st gen nano, then. |
| 19:52:28 | Musume1-2 | anyone know about flashing one of those chinese mp4 players?? |
| 19:52:49 | Musume1-2 | I know they are not the best.. but I bet they could be improved too |
| 19:55:12 | n1s | Musume1-2: you don't just "flash" something with rockbox, it needs to be ported first and that's a lot of work |
| 19:55:45 | Musume1-2 | I know... |
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| 19:56:53 | Musume1-2 | what I meant is... just improving the rom itself not necessarly rockbox.... I know coding something from scratch can take a long long time... |
| 19:57:16 | gevaerts | If it's not rockbox, it's off-topic here |
| 19:57:46 | Musume1-2 | I figured I'd ask ... but np i prefer my ipod anyday |
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| 19:59:14 | sylfr | Hi |
| 19:59:46 | Musume1-2 | but now that u mention it.. I wonder how much of rockbox could be implemented to one of those players..... maybe the rom size is small, but probably do-able |
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| 20:01:03 | sylfr | I have two problems with Rockbox. Someone would be able to help me ? |
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| 20:01:26 | Musume1-2 | porting rockbox... would be feasable... |
| 20:01:57 | n1s | sylfr: maybe if you state your problems :) |
| 20:02:06 | sylfr | Yes ! |
| 20:02:30 | gevaerts | Musume1-2: whether or not porting rockbox to a device is feasible depends on the exact device. "chinese mp4 players" is very vague, so nobody can say anything useful about it |
| 20:02:33 | Musume1-2 | >.< I wish I knew how to code .. |
| 20:02:57 | sylfr | My first problem : when I add just one track, or a few tracks, on my iPod, how I can do to add them to my library without scan the whole files again ? |
| 20:03:00 | Musume1-2 | yes I figured that much gevaerts |
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| 20:03:53 | Slasheri | Musume1-2: it's much easier to write something from scratch than to improved closed source software |
| 20:04:01 | Slasheri | *improve |
| 20:04:12 | n1s | sylfr: just update the database, it's there in the menu, check the manual if you can't find it |
| 20:04:50 | Musume1-2 | I'll take your word for it since I dont know about coding, but I was just throwing ideas around.... |
| 20:05:22 | sylfr | n1s: yes, but if I do that, my stats are erased (eg my ratings on songs) |
| 20:05:52 | sylfr | n1s: and it spend much of time |
| 20:06:11 | n1s | sylfr: are you sure you are not selecting "Initialize database"? |
| 20:06:35 | sylfr | I tried both. |
| 20:06:44 | sylfr | n1s: I'm gonna try again to be sure. |
| 20:07:05 | n1s | if you Initialize the whole database will be recreated and your ratins lost, just do an update |
| 20:07:31 | n1s | umm insert a comma somewhere there |
| 20:07:51 | sylfr | n1s: It's the fourth option ? It's even very long and use a lot of battery |
| 20:08:25 | sylfr | n1s: There is no way to use "Files and Folders" section to select a track and then add it in the database ? |
| 20:08:54 | n1s | yes, it's the one called "Update now", don't use "Initialize now" as it will wipe the database and recreate it |
| 20:09:17 | n1s | sylfr: no there isn't, however try enabling dircache if you haven' |
| 20:09:21 | n1s | t already |
| 20:09:57 | sylfr | n1s: OK, i'm gonna do that now if there is not a better solution. |
| 20:09:59 | n1s | general settings->system->disk->directory cache->yes |
| 20:11:03 | sylfr | n1s:OK |
| 20:11:16 | sylfr | n1s: And doesn't it use a lot of battery ? |
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| 20:12:18 | n1s | sylfr: it uses quite a bit of ram so rockbox has to rebuffer more often but if you update the database very often it makes that use a bit less battery and quite a bit faster |
| 20:12:31 | sylfr | n1s: OK, thanks |
| 20:12:45 | sylfr | This problem was solved. |
| 20:12:50 | sylfr | ANd now, my second problem |
| 20:13:03 | sylfr | Is there an anti-aliased font for rockbox ? |
| 20:13:10 | n1s | no |
| 20:13:17 | sylfr | OK |
| 20:13:22 | sylfr | Problem solved |
| 20:13:24 | sylfr | :D |
| 20:13:35 | sylfr | And, I have another question. |
| 20:14:21 | sylfr | Rockbox allows to use a voice recorder, plugging it in the earphones, isn't it ? |
| 20:15:28 | amiconn | Bagder: around? |
| 20:16:01 | n1s | sylfr: i'm not sure what you mean, yes rockbox supports recording from the headphone jack on some ipods |
| 20:16:27 | Musume1-2 | btw fellas... ipodpatcher worked like a charm |
| 20:16:43 | sylfr | n1s: Yes, it was what i meant (i am french, so my english may not be perfect, sorry) |
| 20:17:21 | sylfr | And, i wondered : is there a way to listen to the radio with rockbox on a iPod ? |
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| 20:18:27 | gevaerts | sylfr: rockbox supports the radio on all supported players that have one built-in |
| 20:19:05 | * | gevaerts reads the last three words of the question now |
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| 20:19:15 | gevaerts | Unfortunately, the ipod isn't one of them |
| 20:19:17 | sylfr | gevaerts: OK. But I have an iPod, that haves not one built-in. |
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| 20:19:46 | sylfr | gevaerts: Yes. And there is no any tool that would make it possible ? |
| 20:20:15 | gevaerts | You mean with one of the external radios? Maybe, in the future, if someone does the work |
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| 20:21:15 | sylfr | OK |
| 20:21:22 | sylfr | Thank you ! |
| 20:21:28 | sylfr | Bye ! |
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| 20:21:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Wrong channel. :P |
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| 20:23:43 | Musume1-2 | hm |
| 20:26:40 | Musume1-2 | huh |
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| 20:27:07 | fearbeforeubuntu | anyone know how to install on 6th gen? |
| 20:27:44 | fearbeforeubuntu | ? |
| 20:27:48 | gevaerts | The one that the front page says isn't supported? |
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| 20:28:00 | Musume1-2 | bootloader is working fine... but when loading rockbox it said.. Can't load rockbox.ipod file not found error |
| 20:28:18 | fearbeforeubuntu | well that answers my question |
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| 20:30:25 | Musume1-2 | sounds like I need to copy the file manually from what it reads |
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| 20:33:06 | Zambezi | Stupid question. I accidently opened a picture on my iPod Mini, how can I reverse (step back)? I'm going to leave within five minutes and want to bring my music along. |
| 20:33:46 | Zambezi | I fixed mine today so I'll upgrade Rockbox too when I'm back. |
| 20:34:06 | gevaerts | Musume1-2: I guess you didn't install rockbox itself yet. Restart rbutil, select the second tab (Installation), and run the non-bootloader install |
| 20:34:21 | Musume1-2 | I did install |
| 20:34:29 | Musume1-2 | but I'll restart it.. I didn't do that |
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| 20:41:50 | Musume1-2 | I must be doing something wrong |
| 20:42:09 | Musume1-2 | I did install rockbox and its still saying file not found |
| 20:42:47 | domonoky | Musume1-2: make sure there is a ".rockbox" directory on your ipod and an rockbox.ipod file in it... |
| 20:42:50 | Musume1-2 | when trying to load rockbox |
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| 20:44:43 | Musume1-2 | I"m copying the folder |
| 20:44:50 | Musume1-2 | takes a while |
| 20:45:54 | Musume1-2 | I look forward to my fav mario game..... Mario six golden coins |
| 20:45:55 | Musume1-2 | hehe |
| 20:46:25 | domonoky | so it was not already on your ipod ? maybe you pointed rbutil to a wrong mountpoint ? |
| 20:46:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Musumel-2: Game Boy games are off topic. |
| 20:47:02 | Musume1-2 | yes they are but I"m referring to rockbox |
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| 20:48:21 | Musume1-2 | I probably did point it in the wrong place.. but slowly but surely will get it to work... and thanks domonoky for the help too |
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| 20:49:50 | Photoguy | Hello! |
| 20:50:13 | Photoguy | Hello! |
| 20:50:19 | advcomp2019 | Photoguy, hello |
| 20:50:19 | Photoguy | Anybody home? |
| 20:50:39 | * | gevaerts points Photoguy to the channel guidelines |
| 20:50:40 | advcomp2019 | you can just ask, Photoguy |
| 20:51:28 | Photoguy | I have a few questions... |
| 20:52:01 | advcomp2019 | you can just ask, Photoguy, we can not read minds |
| 20:52:09 | Photoguy | What is the path foe .patch files, inside the .rockbox folder? |
| 20:52:15 | Photoguy | :P |
| 20:52:22 | Photoguy | *for |
| 20:52:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | .patch files are meant to be added to the Rockbox source code, and then compiled. |
| 20:52:41 | Photoguy | Oh.. |
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| 20:53:32 | Photoguy | So, no simple way unless you know how to code? |
| 20:54:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | You don't really need to know how to write code from scratch to apply patches, but it helps. |
| 20:55:41 | Photoguy | I wanted to add this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5448?histring=radio |
| 20:55:49 | BigBambi | You don't need to know how to code at all, just how to follow instructions |
| 20:55:58 | BigBambi | Unless the patch is ut of date and needs updating |
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| 20:56:12 | BigBambi | Photoguy: www.rockbox.org/wiki/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
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| 20:57:09 | Photoguy | Ok, I'm willing to learn, but doesn't somebody have an already compiled file? |
| 20:57:17 | BigBambi | no |
| 20:57:33 | BigBambi | It has to be done for the version of Rockbox you are using for the device you are using |
| 20:57:39 | Musume1-2 | in reference to rockbox... whats the best encoding that could be used to make videos for rockbox in a ipod nano (1st gen) |
| 20:57:41 | BigBambi | (or nearly the same version) |
| 20:57:57 | Musume1-2 | or what format for that matter |
| 20:57:58 | BigBambi | Musume1-2: www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer |
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| 20:58:20 | Photoguy | I wish rockbox was .mov compatible. |
| 20:58:56 | BigBambi | Then get coding |
| 20:59:08 | Photoguy | :) |
| 20:59:28 | BigBambi | However, seeing as you have in most cases to reencode to screen size anyway, it doesn't really matter |
| 20:59:36 | Photoguy | Well, the origional firmware was .mov compatible... |
| 20:59:40 | BigBambi | so? |
| 20:59:47 | BigBambi | We have many many original firmwares |
| 20:59:59 | Photoguy | Oh, sorry.. |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:13 | BigBambi | We don't want to be like any of them, but if we were do you mean iriver, iaudio, ipod, toshiba, sansa, archos..... |
| 21:00:15 | Photoguy | I'm talking about the e200. :P |
| 21:00:17 | gevaerts | Was it? The original firmware for the first rockbox players didn't even support bitmap displays |
| 21:00:45 | gevaerts | The e200 OF only handles mjpeg movs, so calling that one ".mov compatible" is a bit extreme too |
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| 21:01:30 | BigBambi | Besides, what any OF can do has no bearing on Rockbox |
| 21:01:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | .mov files are just containers, anyway. |
| 21:02:18 | saratoga | the sansa's MOV support is worthless |
| 21:03:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | You can just transcode what's in the files to MPEG2. |
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| 21:03:15 | advcomp2019 | saratoga, i was going to say that too.. i think mpeg or mpeg2 are better for the sansa |
| 21:03:41 | Photoguy | Is there any way enlarge photos to more than full size? |
| 21:03:48 | Photoguy | I want to zoom in more. |
| 21:05:18 | BigBambi | Photoguy: The manual is well worth a look |
| 21:05:26 | Photoguy | :) |
| 21:05:33 | BigBambi | You well encounter wrath if you ask questions here that it answers |
| 21:05:36 | BigBambi | *will |
| 21:05:53 | Photoguy | Apparently you have lots of noobs come through. |
| 21:06:25 | BigBambi | It gets very annoying to be asked several thousands times questions that people have put a lot of work into writing documentation to answer |
| 21:06:26 | markun | Photoguy: I believe that the movies on the e200 are mjpeg, is that correct? |
| 21:06:59 | amiconn | markun: v1 OF video format is mjpeg. v2 uses mp4 |
| 21:07:19 | Photoguy | After using the Sandisk media converter, they are in quicktime .mov format |
| 21:07:30 | amiconn | .mov isn't a format, it's a container |
| 21:07:31 | BigBambi | no, they are mjpeg in a mov container |
| 21:07:42 | markun | amiconn: so much has changed between v1 and v2, and they still just call it e200... |
| 21:07:45 | Photoguy | Ok, right, sorry. |
| 21:08:28 | markun | Photoguy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.mov#QuickTime_file_format |
| 21:08:36 | Photoguy | Any hope for e200 v2 comatability in the future? |
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| 21:08:58 | markun | Photoguy: yes |
| 21:09:02 | BigBambi | Photoguy: Yes, but no timeframes or guarantees |
| 21:09:06 | markun | people are working on it |
| 21:09:29 | Photoguy | Yeah, just wondering. |
| 21:09:54 | Photoguy | My brother has a v2, and he's really jealous about rockbox. |
| 21:09:58 | Photoguy | :0 |
| 21:10:03 | Photoguy | :) |
| 21:10:27 | advcomp2019 | Photoguy, order him a v1 then |
| 21:10:30 | markun | that's a nice compliment :) |
| 21:11:07 | Photoguy | Where would you order a v1? |
| 21:11:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Froobi. |
| 21:12:37 | BigBambi | If in the US |
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| 21:12:52 | Photoguy | Talk about exspensive! |
| 21:13:18 | Photoguy | I bought mine from a friend for $18 :) |
| 21:13:22 | Photoguy | 2gb |
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| 21:13:50 | saratoga | then don't buy one? |
| 21:14:17 | Photoguy | Oh, I see I was looking at the wrong thing.. |
| 21:15:17 | Photoguy | Actuallyy not a bad price..$94 for a 16gb. |
| 21:15:28 | Photoguy | *actually |
| 21:15:29 | advcomp2019 | that is a v2 |
| 21:16:02 | Photoguy | Oh, right $89 |
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| 21:17:55 | Musume1-2 | anyone tried rockbox in a X5 |
| 21:17:57 | Musume1-2 | ? |
| 21:18:14 | chb | evening - can someone tell me the status of the sansa v2 port? |
| 21:18:30 | BigBambi | chb: Read the forum thread on it for latest news |
| 21:18:50 | BigBambi | Musume1-2: yes, lots of people. What is the question? |
| 21:19:19 | Musume1-2 | does video buffer time improve ? |
| 21:19:30 | BigBambi | compared to what? |
| 21:19:33 | Musume1-2 | takes a little while in original firmware |
| 21:19:56 | Musume1-2 | to load and buffer the video into memory |
| 21:19:58 | BigBambi | Musume1-2: Why not just try it? |
| 21:20:54 | Musume1-2 | well I can and kind of can't because I sold the X5 to my friend already... but I'll convince him once he see's my ipod |
| 21:21:12 | * | BigBambi would prefer the x5 to the ipod |
| 21:21:46 | Musume1-2 | I sold it because I was afraid I'd break the little joystick . |
| 21:22:11 | Musume1-2 | been know to break a few of those joysticks in other mp3 players |
| 21:23:31 | Musume1-2 | but once I see how it works on the x5 .. I might just get another one eventually |
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| 21:25:33 | Musume1-2 | what I would want to see...is how rockbox would look/work on a psp... except of course... for the game part.. because copyrights wont allow rockbox to decode psp games, but other than that.. for the video/music/pictures.. or even internet features.. that'd be cool |
| 21:26:17 | Musume1-2 | with a nice big screen |
| 21:26:54 | Musume1-2 | to pair it |
| 21:26:56 | * | gevaerts sets Musume1-2 to work |
| 21:28:28 | Musume1-2 | I can already see it at work ... gevaerts |
| 21:28:48 | Musume1-2 | hehe |
| 21:28:51 | gevaerts | Rockbox ports don't happen by themselves |
| 21:28:51 | BigBambi | eh? |
| 21:28:58 | Musume1-2 | I know |
| 21:29:02 | BigBambi | you want it, you port it |
| 21:29:32 | gevaerts | So as long as people just talk a lot about a port but don't actually do anything, people here get a bit annoyed |
| 21:31:32 | Musume1-2 | well I dont code, but I know someone who does... So I'll ask him for advice on it.... I'll see about it.... |
| 21:32:10 | Musume1-2 | take a couple of lessons from him.... u never know |
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| 21:32:32 | mcuelenaere | Bagder: if you have some free time, could you look at the plugin API documentation generator? |
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| 21:41:06 | druidu | I managed to turn on the backlight and blue led of X20's LCD :D |
| 21:41:37 | mcuelenaere | druidu: X20? |
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| 21:42:16 | mcuelenaere | ahh iRiver |
| 21:45:08 | Photoguy | ahh Sandisk |
| 21:45:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | Photoguy: Hush. |
| 21:45:50 | druidu | iRiver X20 |
| 21:45:51 | druidu | :) |
| 21:46:03 | Photoguy | What size screen? |
| 21:46:44 | druidu | 2.2 inch |
| 21:46:56 | Photoguy | Nice. |
| 21:47:02 | mcuelenaere | druidu: does it has the same chip as the meizu's? |
| 21:47:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | I thought the iriver X20 was TCC-based. |
| 21:47:16 | mcuelenaere | and where's the patch? ;) |
| 21:47:18 | druidu | no idea, it's something like variatronix |
| 21:47:24 | druidu | and yes, TCC8200 |
| 21:47:29 | mcuelenaere | ok |
| 21:47:33 | b4taylor | Does anyone use the pluginviewer to read books at all/ |
| 21:47:35 | b4taylor | ? |
| 21:47:42 | druidu | the lcd controllers I think is embedded in the tcc chip |
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| 21:48:44 | Photoguy | I use the text viewer |
| 21:49:07 | mcuelenaere | are there some kind of guidelines/standard for writing a Rockbox audio driver? |
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| 21:52:27 | b4taylor | Photoguy: I'd prefer a real pdf viewer but I'm wondering how good the viewer is :p |
| 21:52:39 | b4taylor | I haven't rocked my sansa e260 yet. |
| 21:52:51 | Photoguy | Yeah, a PDF viewer would be awesome... |
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| 21:53:10 | b4taylor | Although I bricked it today. It's fixed now, but I don't think it should lock up because it hit an mp3 tag it didn't like. |
| 21:53:14 | BigBambi | b4taylor: It views text files, with a few things like bookmarking etc |
| 21:53:24 | b4taylor | BigBambi: Can you def chapters? |
| 21:53:32 | BigBambi | b4taylor: That isn't bricked then. Please don't throw terms like that around |
| 21:53:48 | BigBambi | b4taylor: And please use real words. I'm guessing you mean define? |
| 21:53:53 | shotofadds | mcuelenaere: have you seen any odd behaviour from the nand_identify() function recently? on my m200 it consistently returns NULL for known NANDs. But if I insert an innocent printf() it works again... definitely something weird going on. |
| 21:54:33 | BigBambi | b4taylor: And if you can consistently reproduce a crash and it hasn't already been done, please file a bug report on it |
| 21:54:35 | mcuelenaere | shotofadds: not really |
| 21:54:45 | b4taylor | BigBambi: It was rather messed up. It definately wasn't just a lock up -> reboot -> yay it works again. |
| 21:54:56 | BigBambi | That isn't a brick |
| 21:54:58 | mcuelenaere | shotofadds: have you made a flyspray tracker item? |
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| 21:55:08 | b4taylor | It wasn't usable. That's for sure. |
| 21:55:17 | BigBambi | A brick is taken to mean unable to be resurected without specialist equipment |
| 21:55:31 | BigBambi | You manged to fix it, ergo it wasn't bricked |
| 21:55:46 | b4taylor | No, a brick is taken to mean that it's as useful as a brick given it's current state. |
| 21:55:54 | b4taylor | Which it was. |
| 21:55:55 | shotofadds | mcuelenaere: I don't think there's any need. I'm looking into whether linuxstb's recent TCC77x changes broke it... |
| 21:55:56 | BigBambi | b4taylor: Not here it isn't |
| 21:56:06 | gevaerts | b4taylor: when you turned it off? |
| 21:56:17 | mcuelenaere | shotofadds: did he change the nand_id file? |
| 21:56:20 | * | gevaerts forgot a "like" |
| 21:56:41 | b4taylor | gevaerts: When it was refreshing the DB. |
| 21:56:54 | shotofadds | no, but the indeterminate behaviour possibly points to some kind of stack or interrupt problem |
| 21:56:54 | Photoguy | Are there any custom builds... |
| 21:56:58 | gevaerts | b4taylor: I mean, is your player bricked whenever you turn it off? |
| 21:57:03 | BigBambi | b4taylor: He meant that when you turn it off, by your definition it is bricked |
| 21:57:09 | b4taylor | gevaerts: Oh. |
| 21:57:10 | mcuelenaere | stack problem? you mean stack overflow? |
| 21:57:34 | mcuelenaere | and interrupts problem can't be caused by the nand_id code |
| 21:58:03 | shotofadds | mcuelenaere: I didn't say it was caused by it. That's just where the problem becomes apparent |
| 21:58:06 | b4taylor | gevaerts: I suppose a better way to put it is the "set of normal states" instead of just 1 state. |
| 21:58:12 | Photoguy | I want this! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5448?histring=radio |
| 21:58:12 | shotofadds | was just checking if you'd seen similar behaviour |
| 21:58:24 | mcuelenaere | nope |
| 21:58:34 | BigBambi | Photoguy: haven't we already been through this? |
| 21:58:44 | mcuelenaere | I just used the code on the Onda targets and no problems |
| 21:58:47 | Photoguy | :P |
| 21:59:01 | shotofadds | sure.. it works on the d2 without problems too. |
| 21:59:10 | BigBambi | Photoguy: Please don't clog up the logs. This is a support and development channel, not a chat channel |
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| 21:59:15 | Photoguy | I know, but this compiling buisness is confusing . |
| 21:59:28 | BigBambi | So feel free to ask specific questions where you have problems |
| 21:59:53 | mcuelenaere | shotofadds: then you're probably right and it's a target specific problem |
| 21:59:54 | b4taylor | Where's the rockbox chat channel? |
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| 22:00:02 | mcuelenaere | b4taylor: rockbox-community |
| 22:00:02 | BigBambi | b4taylor: Check the topic |
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| 22:00:54 | b4taylor | Well that's lame there are more users here. |
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| 22:02:23 | Photoguy | What is new about 3.0, I didn't see anything major, or am I missing something? |
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| 22:03:08 | BigBambi | Photoguy: It is a specific version that was judged to be stable |
| 22:03:56 | gevaerts | Photoguy: there's a huge amount of new things since 2.5, like ipod support |
| 22:04:05 | gevaerts | Or sansa, or iriver, or ... |
| 22:04:11 | Photoguy | Ok, just curious. |
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| 22:07:47 | blkhawk | got to reflash my nas - bbl |
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| 22:14:15 | markun | Photoguy: wouldn't a PDF viewer be terrible on such a small screen? |
| 22:14:44 | Photoguy | Umm.. |
| 22:14:48 | Photoguy | Maybe. |
| 22:14:58 | Photoguy | 1.8 does seem a bit small. |
| 22:15:10 | Photoguy | Although 2.2 wouldn't be to much better. |
| 22:16:37 | markun | but still, how would you read the PDF? Zoom in and then keep scrolling left and right to read the lines? |
| 22:17:45 | markun | I think that if you view it with the whole width of a page on the screen you will be unable to read anything |
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| 22:18:14 | markun | also depending on the screen size and resolution of the player of course |
| 22:18:38 | markun | for something like the vx767 it would be ok I guess |
| 22:19:16 | crashmatrix | my ipod has been acting up since a few days. When I turn it on, it won't get past the 'backlight off, apple logo'-booting stage. I can enter disk mode and test mode, but it just won't 'boot' up, rockbox or otherwise |
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| 22:21:23 | crashmatrix | I haven't done anything out of the ordinary with the thing, and I'm about to reflash the thing, but I'm wondering if this has happened before and/or if it's a common problem with 5.5G ipoots |
| 22:23:33 | markun | crashmatrix: I have no clue what it could be, hope that someone else can help you |
| 22:23:50 | Photoguy | Sorry. |
| 22:23:55 | crashmatrix | meh, it's mostly my fault for getting a ipoot in the first place :) |
| 22:24:37 | Photoguy | Question... |
| 22:24:39 | markun | crashmatrix: a lot of people have them. I don't think they are the best, but neither are they the worst (hardware wise) |
| 22:24:54 | BigBambi | Photoguy: Just ask |
| 22:24:55 | Photoguy | How can I make the Dict plugin to work? |
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| 22:25:15 | Photoguy | Download a dictionary somehow? |
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| 22:26:54 | Photoguy | Ok, nobody wants to answer that.. |
| 22:27:09 | Photoguy | I found a bug.. |
| 22:27:13 | Photoguy | Or kind of. |
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| 22:28:24 | Photoguy | When recording (mic) on a the e200, there is a high pitched interference, caused by the lcd display. |
| 22:28:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | We know about that already. |
| 22:29:30 | Photoguy | Sorry :P |
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| 22:30:06 | BigBambi | Photoguy: Please have patience. People aren't staring at their screens constantly, and not everybody knows the answer to everything |
| 22:36:00 | shotofadds | anyone here with an M200 v1? |
| 22:36:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | shotofadds: Just my v3, sorry. |
| 22:37:27 | mcuelenaere | shotofadds: have you tried reverting linuxstb changes and see if it resolves the problem? |
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| 22:40:15 | shot0fadds | mcuelenaere: I think it's related to the iaudio7 changes. will try reverting back shortly. |
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| 22:42:25 | shot0fadds | heh.. sometime the bootloader font doesn't even display properly. that's seriously screwed. |
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| 22:44:23 | mcuelenaere | I see vitja added an ata_identify() routine to ata-nand-telechips.c, but that can't be the problem |
| 22:45:02 | mcuelenaere | ah perhaps the MODE->TMODE change? |
| 22:45:28 | mcuelenaere | nope |
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| 22:54:14 | Photoguy | Where do the dictionary files go in the rockbox folder?>] |
| 22:54:42 | gevaerts | zodttd: the channel guidelines ask not to change your nick on away |
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| 22:56:26 | scorche|sh | Photoguy: please do a bit of searching... |
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| 22:57:34 | Photoguy | It said to put it in the rockbox folder, but it doesn't work :P |
| 22:57:54 | scorche|sh | i dont see it saying that at all |
| 22:58:12 | Photoguy | Sorry outside source: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18258 |
| 22:58:32 | scorche|sh | why dont you search *our* sources?...like, say, the wiki? |
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| 23:00:00 | LambdaCalculus37 | And our manual? |
| 23:00:36 | zodttd | gevaerts: Ok. Though that means I would have to disable it for all channels. |
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| 23:04:46 | Photoguy | Ok, got it installed. |
| 23:05:27 | Photoguy | But I can't scroll down! |
| 23:05:34 | Photoguy | Stupid thing! |
| 23:06:04 | scorche|sh | if you looked at the wiki page for it, you would have seen that.. |
| 23:06:14 | Photoguy | Seen what? |
| 23:06:22 | Photoguy | It doesn't scroll down? |
| 23:06:30 | scorche|sh | yes |
| 23:07:39 | Photoguy | Wow, that's a big handicap |
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| 23:08:20 | Photoguy | %50 done.. |
| 23:09:28 | Photoguy | Well, I'll probably be back with more questions later.. |
| 23:09:32 | Photoguy | Bye. |
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| 23:28:36 | Bagder | Onda vx787 seems to have a "Rockchip RK2706 DSP core + ARM core - Max core speed:400mHz " internally |
| 23:28:46 | Bagder | http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_8&products_id=228 |
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| 23:30:45 | olegfink | Bagder: ah, thanks, so if I don't want to start from the ground up I shouldn't get this one. |
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| 23:31:08 | Bagder | right, the other Ondas seem quite different |
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| 23:48:10 | amiconn | Bagder: I found the reason why building the mips toolchain fails on some systems |
| 23:48:22 | Bagder | aha |
| 23:48:31 | amiconn | The problem is gcc 4.3.x (why doesn't that surprise me.. :\ ) |
| 23:48:40 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:49:04 | amiconn | Same thing happened for someone else who tried to build the avr toolchain: http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=66336 |
| 23:49:47 | amiconn | Gcc 4.3.x enables a warning for out-of-bounds array acesses by default, and binutils 2.17 (and higher) build with -Werror by default... |
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| 23:54:23 | olegfink | Bagder: can you tell from http://ftp.roverbook.com/RoverMedia/Aria_S7/S7%20software%2020080721.zip if it is vx777? |
| 23:54:31 | olegfink | looks like 1:1 oem clone |
| 23:54:49 | olegfink | OF is called S800.hxf (in the zip I linked) |
| 23:55:05 | Bagder | I'm not an expert on that so I wouldn't dare to try to judge |
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| 23:56:16 | olegfink | hmm, google says it's vx858 |
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