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| 00:33:14 | * | shotofadds guesses "*PANIC* sanity failed" is not a good sign. great error message though! |
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| 00:40:11 | shotofadds | gevaerts: do you have any idea what that panic means? Could it be because I'm connecting from Windows? |
| 00:40:58 | gevaerts | shotofadds: no idea |
| 00:41:27 | shotofadds | I'll ask vitja about it next time he's around. I don't really understand any of that code in usb-tcc77x.c |
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| 00:41:55 | ercferret18 | hi |
| 00:42:15 | ercferret18 | does anyone know where I can get the "eraser" for my sansa c200 |
| 00:42:17 | ercferret18 | ? |
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| 00:43:13 | ercferret18 | please? |
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| 00:44:02 | Strife89 | ercferret18: What's the problem. |
| 00:44:15 | Strife89 | ? |
| 00:44:25 | ercferret18 | i have tried everything, but my sansa c200 just won't work |
| 00:44:37 | ercferret18 | when i turn it on, only the blue ring lights up |
| 00:44:42 | Strife89 | ercferret18: I just dropped in; I need details. |
| 00:44:56 | ercferret18 | when i turn on my sansa c200 |
| 00:45:00 | ercferret18 | nothing happens |
| 00:45:05 | ercferret18 | except the blue ring lights up |
| 00:45:15 | ercferret18 | i tried the e200tool |
| 00:45:23 | ercferret18 | and that got the player into recovery mode |
| 00:45:35 | ercferret18 | but i tried |
| 00:45:47 | ercferret18 | dragging the firmware into the disk and it still didn't work |
| 00:46:02 | ercferret18 | someone suggested i use the eraser and that i could get it from this IRC |
| 00:46:06 | ercferret18 | ok, i'm done |
| 00:46:11 | Strife89 | Then you've looked at the Wiki? |
| 00:46:26 | ercferret18 | wiki? |
| 00:47:18 | Strife89 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port |
| 00:47:33 | Strife89 | My Internet connection is slow today......... |
| 00:47:43 | ercferret18 | yeah, i looked at that and tried everything, it still doesn't work |
| 00:47:49 | ercferret18 | thats ok |
| 00:48:39 | Strife89 | You may have gotten the wrong firmware version. |
| 00:49:03 | Strife89 | Where is that sucker?......... |
| 00:49:34 | ercferret18 | i tried dragging the firmware i got from the e200tool site into the 16MB-FORMAT thingie |
| 00:50:08 | Strife89 | But you're using a *c*200, correct? |
| 00:50:16 | ercferret18 | a c250 actually |
| 00:50:28 | Strife89 | Heh, that's my model. :) |
| 00:50:34 | ercferret18 | hah |
| 00:50:37 | Strife89 | Anyway, look here: http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/c200/v1/firmware/1.01.00/ |
| 00:50:59 | ercferret18 | ok, which one should i get? |
| 00:51:01 | Strife89 | Pick one of the zips and copy *all* of the files to your Sansa while in recovery mode. |
| 00:51:08 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 00:51:11 | ercferret18 | i'll try |
| 00:51:11 | Strife89 | Try them all, one at a time. |
| 00:51:23 | ercferret18 | k |
| 00:52:19 | | Quit PaulJam (".") |
| 00:52:21 | linuxstb | ercferret18: Read the IRC logs starting here - http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20081004#01:10:45 |
| 00:52:37 | ercferret18 | ok, i will when i'm done trying this |
| 00:52:56 | Strife89 | And I recommend that you use the Wiki's way to get into recovery mode. It shouldn't matter, but for safety's sake..... |
| 00:52:59 | | Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") |
| 00:53:27 | * | Strife89 reads the linked log. |
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| 00:54:02 | ercferret18 | i can't do it by using the hold switch and record button, only by using the e200tool |
| 00:54:19 | Strife89 | Don't try hitting power, just plug it in. |
| 00:54:35 | Strife89 | Keep holding record. |
| 00:54:40 | ercferret18 | yeah, when i do that, it goes into "manufacturing mode" |
| 00:54:46 | ercferret18 | then i use e200tool |
| 00:54:58 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
| 00:55:20 | Strife89 | What's your computer's OS? |
| 00:55:33 | ercferret18 | i'm on linux (ubuntu) right now |
| 00:55:49 | Strife89 | Read that log if this doesn't work. |
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| 00:56:12 | Strife89 | I, too, am using Ubuntu, by the way. :D |
| 00:56:32 | ercferret18 | ok, now i have it in recovery mode (using e200tool) and now im going to try extracting that firmware you just gave me |
| 00:56:52 | Strife89 | Be sure to place *all* of the files onto your Sansa. |
| 00:57:34 | ercferret18 | yup, i'm just extracting it straight into the 16MB-FORMAT thing |
| 00:57:49 | Strife89 | Be sure to unmount it before pulling the plug. |
| 00:58:13 | ercferret18 | oops... |
| 00:58:23 | Strife89 | I preferred to extract it elsewhere first. |
| 00:58:32 | Strife89 | "Oops" what? |
| 00:58:43 | ercferret18 | i didn't unmount before pulling it out |
| 00:59:22 | Strife89 | That is *definitely* something that has potential to screw up hardware. PLEASE be careful. |
| 00:59:34 | ercferret18 | ok, i'll do that next time |
| 00:59:35 | Strife89 | Anyway, reboot your Sansa. |
| 00:59:44 | ercferret18 | ok, the first one didn't work |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:15 | Strife89 | Do you remember the EXACT version of the OF before you had problems? |
| 01:00:25 | Strife89 | Specifically, the letter. |
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| 01:01:04 | ercferret18 | no, I don't. i had installed rockbox on it and i had never ran any firmware updates, this happened when i removed rockbox and its bootloader. |
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| 01:02:36 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:03:14 | ercferret18 | no luck with the second one |
| 01:03:24 | ercferret18 | and this time i noticed it said "format failure" on the screen |
| 01:03:33 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
| 01:03:42 | Strife89 | Never seen that before.... |
| 01:05:37 | ercferret18 | third didn't work, again with the format failure |
| 01:05:46 | Strife89 | Let's try what the log says. Download this: gevaerts/c250erase">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250erase |
| 01:06:04 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 01:06:08 | ercferret18 | I downloaded it |
| 01:06:27 | Strife89 | This tool is supposed to wipe your Sansa to a fresh state. First...... |
| 01:06:44 | Strife89 | Put it in your Home directory. |
| 01:06:53 | ercferret18 | k |
| 01:06:55 | Strife89 | /home/yourusername/ |
| 01:07:01 | ercferret18 | ok, got it |
| 01:07:04 | Strife89 | Now open a terminal. |
| 01:07:09 | ercferret18 | yeah |
| 01:07:11 | Strife89 | Type this: gevaerts/c250erase">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250erase |
| 01:07:15 | Strife89 | No, not that |
| 01:07:20 | ercferret18 | lol |
| 01:07:22 | Strife89 | chmod +x c250erase |
| 01:07:24 | Strife89 | That |
| 01:07:42 | ercferret18 | k |
| 01:07:43 | Strife89 | Put "sudo" before it if that doesn't work. |
| 01:07:51 | ercferret18 | i think it worked |
| 01:07:56 | Strife89 | Okay. |
| 01:08:03 | Strife89 | sudo ./c250erase |
| 01:08:16 | Strife89 | With your Sansa plugged in, of course. |
| 01:08:28 | ercferret18 | should it be in manufacturing mode or recovery mode |
| 01:08:36 | Strife89 | Manufacturing. |
| 01:08:42 | ercferret18 | k |
| 01:09:02 | Strife89 | Be aware: This will take a long time. |
| 01:09:05 | ercferret18 | ok its working |
| 01:09:08 | Strife89 | ~45 minutes. |
| 01:09:19 | ercferret18 | thats fine, anything to get it working again |
| 01:09:23 | Strife89 | You should see some numbers counting down on the Sansa. |
| 01:09:31 | ercferret18 | yup, i do |
| 01:09:40 | Strife89 | Okay, let it sit there. |
| 01:09:44 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 01:09:53 | ercferret18 | i've got plenty of time |
| 01:10:12 | Strife89 | After around 45 minutes, it'll say that it's ready, and that pressing a key powers it off. |
| 01:10:38 | ercferret18 | ok, and then will it boot into the firmware or will i have to put the firmware on it? |
| 01:11:01 | Strife89 | But while it's there, it's in "normal" manufacture mode, so using SansaE200Unbrick's instructions should work. |
| 01:11:34 | Strife89 | So, don't turn it off when it gets there. |
| 01:11:50 | ercferret18 | so what should i do when it finishes? |
| 01:12:42 | | Quit n1s () |
| 01:13:07 | Strife89 | Put this on it. http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/firmware.mi4 |
| 01:13:35 | ercferret18 | ok, just that? |
| 01:13:47 | Strife89 | I *believe.* |
| 01:13:53 | ercferret18 | ok, thanks |
| 01:14:17 | Strife89 | Go ahead and read the log; that's where I'm getting the instructions from. :) |
| 01:14:25 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 01:14:32 | Strife89 | "When you're there, it's in "normal" manufacure mode, so the procedure from SansaE200Unbrick should work." |
| 01:14:49 | Strife89 | That sentence is iffy to me. |
| 01:15:11 | ercferret18 | yeah... |
| 01:15:28 | ercferret18 | i will try with just the firmware first |
| 01:16:17 | Strife89 | Well, I have dishes to wash. ;) |
| 01:16:23 | Strife89 | I'll be back. |
| 01:16:41 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 01:16:44 | ercferret18 | thank you for all the help |
| 01:17:27 | ercferret18 | :) |
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| 01:20:27 | Strife89 | ercferret18: Here, entertain yourself for a bit. ;) http://strife89.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 01:20:37 | Strife89 | Back to the dishes now. :) |
| 01:22:07 | ercferret18 | haha that's pretty good |
| 01:22:50 | pixelma | but actually doesn't belong here *pointing at topic* |
| 01:23:36 | ercferret18 | he was just giving me entertainment :) |
| 01:24:04 | scorche | entertainment is offtopic... |
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| 01:24:18 | ercferret18 | biiig whoop |
| 01:29:32 | ercferret18 | only 77536 KB left :D |
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| 01:42:13 | travellerx | the cross compiler automatic build is entirely source code that is compiled on the native machine, right? |
| 01:42:45 | ercferret18 | duh |
| 01:43:32 | travellerx | so in theory I could compile rockbox on a palm device running familiar? |
| 01:44:05 | ercferret18 | ya |
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| 01:45:00 | Riyonuk | Hi guys. Just bought an iPod off a friend, was hoping I could install rockbox, just because I want themes :P, how do I know if mine's even supported? I don't really know what model it is. |
| 01:47:09 | | Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 01:47:12 | krazykit | Riyonuk, you find out. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 |
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| 01:48:02 | Strife1989 | Hmm, my Wi-FI connection dropped again...... |
| 01:48:11 | Riyonuk | Thanks, I'm really bad at searching :| |
| 01:48:16 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: I'm back (with a different nick). |
| 01:48:30 | Strife1989 | What'd I miss? |
| 01:48:57 | scorche | Strife1989: you can check the irc logs yourself... |
| 01:49:13 | * | Strife1989 grumbles about a slow connection. |
| 01:49:25 | | Quit Strife89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 01:49:47 | Riyonuk | I guess it's 5th gen |
| 01:50:15 | Strife1989 | There goes the other me. :) |
| 01:50:27 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: How's the Sansa coming? |
| 01:50:35 | ercferret18 | it's still formatting |
| 02:00 |
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| 02:01:41 | Strife1989 | What does the screen say, exactly? |
| 02:01:47 | ercferret18 | it says |
| 02:01:54 | ercferret18 | press any key to shutdown |
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| 02:02:30 | Strife1989 | Well, remember the "firmware.mi4" file? |
| 02:02:36 | ercferret18 | yeah |
| 02:02:40 | ercferret18 | copy just that |
| 02:02:48 | Strife1989 | Yes, do that. |
| 02:03:07 | Strife1989 | Then unmount it |
| 02:03:14 | ercferret18 | ok, but how should i get it back into recovery mode |
| 02:03:26 | Strife1989 | Press a key. |
| 02:03:35 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:03:38 | ercferret18 | it's shut down |
| 02:03:45 | Strife1989 | Now turn it on. |
| 02:03:51 | ercferret18 | k |
| 02:03:53 | Strife1989 | Tell me EXACTLY what happens. |
| 02:04:07 | ercferret18 | just blank screen, with the blue keypad ring |
| 02:04:21 | ercferret18 | that's all |
| 02:04:25 | Strife1989 | Reboot to recovery mode. |
| 02:04:32 | ercferret18 | using e200tool? |
| 02:04:47 | Strife1989 | Try the other method first. |
| 02:04:52 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:05:04 | Strife1989 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#Recovery_Mode |
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| 02:05:48 | ercferret18 | hold on |
| 02:06:17 | ercferret18 | it doesn't go into recovery mode that way |
| 02:06:22 | ercferret18 | it stays in manufacturing mdoe |
| 02:06:39 | Strife1989 | Hang on. |
| 02:06:42 | ercferret18 | k |
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| 02:10:33 | Strife1989 | Put this, and only this, on it instead (in manufacturing mode): http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/c200/pribootLoader.rom |
| 02:11:07 | Riyonuk | So the ipod 5th gen isn't supported :( |
| 02:11:15 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: You still there? |
| 02:11:18 | ercferret18 | but i can't put anything on it in recovery mode |
| 02:11:20 | ercferret18 | yes |
| 02:11:54 | ercferret18 | i mean i can't put anything on it unless it's in recovery mode |
| 02:11:55 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Manufacturing mode. |
| 02:11:59 | Strife1989 | Oh. |
| 02:12:07 | ercferret18 | sorry about that |
| 02:12:19 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Try doing it in recovery mode, then. It should still work. |
| 02:12:20 | advcomp2019 | Riyonuk, it should work |
| 02:12:27 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:12:34 | Riyonuk | Theres not even an option on the website |
| 02:12:39 | ercferret18 | i'll get it into recovery mode using e200tool |
| 02:12:48 | Riyonuk | Yet here's a pic of one in action, I don't get it. http://1isa2isb.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/rockbox.jpg |
| 02:14:08 | Strife1989 | Isn't the iPod Video 5G and the iPod Classic 6G? |
| 02:14:11 | ercferret18 | ok so i should just put the pribootLoader.rom onto the 16MB-FORMAT drive and unmount? |
| 02:14:17 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Yes. |
| 02:14:25 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:15:01 | ercferret18 | ok now it goes straight into recovery mode on reboot |
| 02:15:16 | Strife1989 | Good. Now back to recovering the firmware. :) |
| 02:15:21 | Riyonuk | Okay...it IS on your website, just different pages -_- |
| 02:15:22 | Strife1989 | We're nearly there. |
| 02:15:29 | ercferret18 | yes! |
| 02:15:45 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Back to this page: http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/c200/v1/firmware/1.01.00/ |
| 02:15:55 | ercferret18 | yeah |
| 02:15:56 | advcomp2019 | Riyonuk, have you tried the rockbox utility then? |
| 02:16:04 | Riyonuk | What's that? I'm so lost XD |
| 02:16:15 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Try starting with the last one and going backwards |
| 02:16:17 | Strife1989 | . |
| 02:16:22 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:16:51 | Strife1989 | Hopefully that will better your odds of nailing it early. |
| 02:16:55 | advcomp2019 | Riyonuk, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 02:17:06 | ercferret18 | copy everything into the drive, including the pribootLoader.rom? |
| 02:17:16 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Not the ROM. |
| 02:17:17 | Riyonuk | Thanks, woah, I just read I can do drag and drop once I'm done? |
| 02:17:25 | ercferret18 | everything else? |
| 02:17:35 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Just the CONTENTS of the .7z file. |
| 02:17:41 | krazykit | Riyonuk, that's correct. |
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| 02:17:57 | ercferret18 | so the contents of the .7z file EXCEPT for the .rom file |
| 02:18:12 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Wait, huh? |
| 02:18:15 | Riyonuk | So excited :D |
| 02:18:22 | Riyonuk | Can't wait to make my own themes, as most stink :P |
| 02:18:26 | ercferret18 | i downloaded the last .7z file |
| 02:18:30 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Just a second |
| 02:18:32 | ercferret18 | ok |
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| 02:20:02 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Yes, put everything that's in the .7z file onto your Sansa. Be careful not to mix up anything. |
| 02:20:31 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Namely, the ROM files. |
| 02:20:32 | ercferret18 | so would that include the .rom file (which i had just copied earlier?) |
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| 02:20:48 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Yes, the one from the .7z file. |
| 02:20:51 | ercferret18 | k |
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| 02:21:14 | Strife1989 | Unmount.... |
| 02:21:23 | ercferret18 | k |
| 02:21:24 | Strife1989 | .....and reboot. |
| 02:21:25 | ercferret18 | and remove |
| 02:21:27 | ercferret18 | k |
| 02:21:57 | ercferret18 | it appears to be working now |
| 02:22:10 | ercferret18 | yup, it works |
| 02:22:20 | Riyonuk | I have no idea what I'm doing, but I pressed installation XD |
| 02:22:21 | Strife1989 | Huzzah! |
| 02:22:29 | ercferret18 | wow |
| 02:22:34 | ercferret18 | thank you for all your help |
| 02:22:44 | | Part pixelma |
| 02:22:51 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: You're very welcome. Thank the community, too. |
| 02:22:55 | Strife1989 | ;) |
| 02:23:02 | ercferret18 | thank you community! |
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| 02:23:15 | ercferret18 | :) |
| 02:23:56 | Strife1989 | ercferret18: Alright, enjoy! I'm off to the shower. |
| 02:24:00 | ercferret18 | ok |
| 02:24:03 | ercferret18 | thanks again! |
| 02:24:17 | Strife1989 | :) |
| 02:24:37 | ercferret18 | bye |
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| 02:25:30 | Riyonuk | The rockbox utility autodeteced it was a 5th gen 30gb, so I guess right. I clicked auto install, or whatever, so I guess I just wait now |
| 02:26:21 | Riyonuk | wow, error, themes site being re-worked |
| 02:26:22 | Riyonuk | -_- |
| 02:32:16 | Riyonuk | Okay, it works |
| 02:32:28 | Riyonuk | if I format it, as this has all my friends music, do I have to re-install rockbox? |
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| 02:38:56 | Riyonuk | Can someone help me install a theme? |
| 02:39:02 | Riyonuk | If I extract to root, it would overwrite everything |
| 02:39:22 | | Part toffe82 |
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| 02:46:16 | ameyer | Yambo Financials |
| 02:46:26 | ameyer | erm |
| 02:46:32 | ameyer | sorry about that |
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| 02:58:50 | Riyonuk | Can I delete iPod_Control? |
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| 03:16:58 | alanb | hullo |
| 03:17:47 | alanb | i made a theme and wish to upload it to the wiki, i would like to get access to that heard i need to come here |
| 03:19:34 | alanb | my username is AlanBrevick, i guess someone might read this later |
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| 03:19:57 | junzi | hiya! i have a sansa e280 that has obscure and inconsistent partitioning. can i just repartiton it with a single primary vfat partition covering all available space? |
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| 03:43:52 | MarcGuay | junzi: Sounds like a bad idea to me, the e200 has a hidden partition for a reason. |
| 03:49:20 | junzi | MarcGuay: hmm, what reason? fdisk -l output looks like a mess |
| 03:54:21 | advcomp2019 | junzi, i think the hidden partition is mainly for the OF and bootloader but i am not 100% sure tho.. i have to look at the info again |
| 03:57:21 | junzi | hmm, so better leave it alone... can i at least format the first partition, or are there any required files (apart from the .rockbox folder)? |
| 03:58:31 | advcomp2019 | yes and the OF.mi4 file in the system folder |
| 03:59:27 | * | ameyer thought the firmware partition was the first partition |
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| 04:00:25 | ameyer | nevermind, I got it reversed |
| 04:00:57 | junzi | advcomp2019: no *.mi4 file in the system folder or anywhere else on this sansa... |
| 04:02:07 | advcomp2019 | you need that file to boot into the sansa firmware for USB and charging |
| 04:03:35 | ameyer | I thought you only put a mi4 in the root directory to upgrade the firmware and it got copied to the system partition |
| 04:04:59 | junzi | no *mi4* on this sansa, and it connects to USB and charges just fine, also with the original firmware... |
| 04:05:04 | ameyer | the only mi4 I can find is /.rockbox/rockbox.mi4 |
| 04:05:09 | ameyer | junzi: same here |
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| 04:05:56 | advcomp2019 | it might be OF.bin |
| 04:06:30 | junzi | no *.bin either |
| 04:07:45 | ameyer | I'm 99% sure the OF is on the hidden partition |
| 04:09:22 | ameyer | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200FirmwarePartition |
| 04:10:35 | advcomp2019 | yea but you need the /system/OF.mi4 or OF.bin to able to get into the Sansa firmware since Rockbox does not have USB support for the sansas unless you have USB support enable build |
| 04:11:57 | * | ameyer facepalms |
| 04:13:04 | junzi | hmm, would there be a way to recreate that hidden firmware partiton in case it gets deleted or corrupted? |
| 04:14:31 | advcomp2019 | the e200tool if i remember right |
| 04:17:15 | junzi | anyone still using an archos? do i understand correctly that i could put a 500gb hdd in an archos v1 recorder, setting up 4 x 125gb partitions, only 1 partiton would be accessible via usb, the other 3 need to be preloaded before i put the hdd in...? :) |
| 04:18:37 | ameyer | what size HD does the archos recorder use |
| 04:18:52 | ameyer | like, 2.5", 1.8", 1", etc. |
| 04:18:57 | junzi | ameyer: 2.5" 9mm height |
| 04:19:36 | ameyer | I *think* you might be able to get away with 137 for the USB-accessible partition if you're right |
| 04:20:24 | cool_walking | 137GB=128GiB |
| 04:21:18 | ameyer | mmm, 500GB of 320 kbps mp3 |
| 04:21:35 | junzi | yeah, turn your mp3 into a monster... :) |
| 04:22:19 | junzi | and the archos has digital out, and i have a dedicated dac ... :) |
| 04:22:23 | ameyer | am I right when I calculate 1157.4 days |
| 04:22:36 | ameyer | heck, the archoses do wav, right? |
| 04:23:06 | ameyer | yay 3 years of mp3s... |
| 04:23:17 | ameyer | (that can't be right) |
| 04:23:39 | junzi | no, archoses do mp3 only, nothing else, hardware mp3 decoder... |
| 04:24:25 | ameyer | I swear they figured out a way to get wav to play |
| 04:25:18 | junzi | hmm, 320k lame preset insane sounds good enough for me... ;) |
| 04:26:38 | ameyer | ok, 144 days |
| 04:27:37 | ameyer | still, that's a censored-ton of reasonably high-quality music |
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| 05:00:16 | Riyonuk | For some reason, I CANNOT get this theme to work. The Now playing theme its supposed to go in, never works. From what the theme website shows, its supposed to go to a different pic. I checked, its there, and all settings seem correct. I even reformated, and reflashed. |
| 05:01:34 | cool_walking | Different pic? What's where? Which settings seem correct? |
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| 05:04:56 | Riyonuk | http://rockbox-themes.cleansoap.org/data/320x240x16/A_Link_to_the_Past.zip |
| 05:05:19 | Riyonuk | That one, it's supposed to, from the description, have the heart containers as battery, and all that cool stuff. I don't even see that pic -_- |
| 05:05:35 | Riyonuk | I just see the default backdrop, and when playing a song, these white lines that constantly move horizontally |
| 05:05:51 | Riyonuk | http://rockbox-themes.cleansoap.org/data/320x240x16/A_Link_to_the_Past_b.png |
| 05:05:54 | MarcGuay | Riyonuk: Themes are tempermental. If it's only one theme that isn't working, chances are there is something wrong with that particular bit and not your entire installation. |
| 05:05:55 | Riyonuk | that's what I see, ALL THE TIME |
| 05:06:10 | Riyonuk | Can you give me a theme YOU know works, just to test? |
| 05:06:51 | MarcGuay | Riyonuk: Any of the included ones. |
| 05:07:15 | * | ameyer points out that the theme Riyonuk is talking about probably wasn't upgraded to work after the last theme-breaking change |
| 05:07:56 | MarcGuay | There were changes to the WPS syntax that broke a lot of themes. Try the ones from the gallery in the rockbox.org wiki. |
| 05:07:58 | advcomp2019 | Riyonuk, those themes on that site might be broken |
| 05:08:05 | cool_walking | Yeah, I can't even see it in the WPS graveyard. |
| 05:08:28 | * | MarcGuay wonders why that site still exists. |
| 05:08:42 | Riyonuk | XD |
| 05:08:46 | Riyonuk | I want the Zelda one though T_T |
| 05:09:15 | cool_walking | You'll have to modify it to work with the new syntax. Read the CustomWPS wiki page. |
| 05:10:32 | Riyonuk | Some of those themes...wow, just...wow |
| 05:12:35 | cool_walking | The current place to go for themes is the WpsGallery wiki page. |
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| 05:14:03 | Riyonuk | Also, where am I supposed to be putting my files? I formatted everything, so all I have is .rockbox. Do I put it as .rockbox/Music, or /Music? |
| 05:15:23 | cool_walking | it doesn't really matter, but inside .rockbox is not good for a couple of reasons. |
| 05:16:25 | cool_walking | .rockbox is hidden by default, and there's a database.ignore file in there, so the database scan won't pick up any music in there. |
| 05:17:21 | cool_walking | But basically you can put it anywhere you want. |
| 05:18:11 | Riyonuk | do I really need the database if I'm organized anyways? |
| 05:18:27 | cool_walking | You don't. It's completely optional. |
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| 05:19:07 | Riyonuk | Does it hinder performance? I read something about battery and the hardisk spinning |
| 05:19:59 | cool_walking | The initialiazation (ideally should only be done once, then "updates" are done subsequently) can completely drain the battery. |
| 05:20:06 | cool_walking | I don't use the database though. |
| 05:21:09 | cool_walking | You should read the manual (linked on the left of every page on rockbox.org). Lots of information. |
| 05:23:20 | Riyonuk | Ugh, I change themes, and the one I chose retains the icon from the last. Stupid >_< |
| 05:24:36 | cool_walking | There are some icon sets on the IconSets wiki page. |
| 05:25:33 | cool_walking | err.. did you change the theme (.cfg file) or just the WPS (.wps file)? |
| 05:26:40 | cool_walking | The .cfg sets background image, sets font, etc. The .wps is just the While Playing Screen. |
| 05:29:50 | Riyonuk | I'm starting to get used to the naming conventions.. |
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| 06:36:21 | AJR | Hey im a noob Ive read the Faq but I have an issue Ic ould use some help with |
| 06:37:50 | advcomp2019 | AJR, if you tell us? |
| 06:38:41 | AJR | Ive installed rockobx as per the instructions |
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| 06:38:53 | AJR | ipod 5.5 gen 80 gig build |
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| 06:39:19 | AJR | using the quick install i get an error saying the machine is not detected |
| 06:39:30 | AJR | trying to manually install the bootloader I get the same message |
| 06:39:38 | AJR | I have enabled the ipod as a drive |
| 06:39:47 | MarcGuay | Using Rockbox Utility? |
| 06:39:56 | advcomp2019 | AJR, are you sure it is not a 6th gen? |
| 06:40:01 | MarcGuay | Did you auto-detect it? |
| 06:40:02 | AJR | Yes positive |
| 06:40:10 | AJR | it will not autodetect |
| 06:40:16 | AJR | usign teh ipodpatcher |
| 06:40:28 | AJR | or the quick installer sorry for teh spelling |
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| 06:40:52 | MarcGuay | "quick installer" being Rockbox Utility? |
| 06:41:06 | AJR | Yes sorry |
| 06:41:15 | MarcGuay | It's okay, just making sure. |
| 06:41:29 | AJR | v 1.07b |
| 06:42:19 | AJR | I get an error saying no ipods found |
| 06:42:42 | MarcGuay | What happens if you try to select the ipod/drive manually in RB utility? |
| 06:43:26 | AJR | my ipod is h:\steven stevens |
| 06:43:43 | AJR | so I browse the H: as the destination |
| 06:43:55 | AJR | and nothing comes up |
| 06:44:06 | AJR | device is just H: |
| 06:44:14 | AJR | even when i manually type in the device name |
| 06:44:16 | AJR | same issue |
| 06:44:44 | MarcGuay | I don't think the name matters. Try simply selecting the drive letter and then the Apple models. |
| 06:44:46 | MarcGuay | -s |
| 06:45:26 | AJR | yes that is what I did I believe |
| 06:45:40 | advcomp2019 | i think you have a 6th aka ipod classic.. what does your face of your ipod look like? |
| 06:45:43 | AJR | When i run the complete install I get the no ipods found error |
| 06:46:07 | AJR | i bought it used on craigslist |
| 06:46:08 | AJR | as a 5.5 gen |
| 06:46:22 | AJR | hmm howso |
| 06:46:46 | AJR | can i tell if its a 6th |
| 06:46:49 | cool_walking_ | Which one is it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ipod-comparison.jpg |
| 06:46:53 | advcomp2019 | is the front shinny or flat? |
| 06:47:07 | MarcGuay | AJR: I'm not sure what to tell you. Perhaps a review of this page will help: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353#ipodclassic? |
| 06:48:04 | AJR | I have the grey one |
| 06:48:07 | AJR | it is not either of those |
| 06:48:08 | AJR | hard to see |
| 06:49:14 | MarcGuay | I believe the Videos only came in white and black. If it's not plastic, Rockboc won't work. |
| 06:49:24 | MarcGuay | RoxBock |
| 06:49:48 | AJR | Gotcha |
| 06:49:53 | AJR | It is a classic |
| 06:49:59 | AJR | I just checked the serial |
| 06:50:03 | AJR | sorry to waste your time |
| 06:50:05 | AJR | thanks for the help |
| 06:50:16 | AJR | Will ipod linux work on this? |
| 06:50:20 | AJR | or im stuck with itunes |
| 06:50:26 | MarcGuay | Nope. |
| 06:50:57 | cool_walking_ | If Ipod Linux worked, chances are someone would already have made Rockbox work on it. |
| 06:51:06 | AJR | gotchas |
| 06:51:07 | AJR | weak |
| 06:51:10 | AJR | thanks fellas |
| 06:51:42 | cool_walking_ | you're welcome |
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| 07:23:24 | Danilo | Dude. I just wanted to upload a theme... |
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| 07:43:10 | amiconn | ameyer: The archoses (recorders and Ondios) can do WAV. It's not integrated into the main playback engine yet though, only a plugin. And the Player/Studio can't do it. |
| 07:44:11 | amiconn | And the theoretical disk size limit would be 2TiB, with the USB accessible partition limited to 128GiB as mentioned |
| 07:45:23 | amiconn | The real upper limit is 250GB atm, 'cause that's afaik the largest 2.5" HDD available with parallel ATA interface (WD2500BEVE). The larger ones are all SATA |
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| 08:28:07 | * | amiconn wonders whether 3.0.1 needs as longish release notes as 3.0 |
| 08:28:37 | amiconn | I guess it doesn't, as it's only a maintenance release related to archos flashing. |
| 08:29:09 | ameyer | and you could probably just link to the 3.0 release notes for some things |
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| 09:04:38 | amiconn | Bagder: ping |
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| 09:14:48 | amiconn | B4gder: Release notes are prepared. Mail should only be sent after the files are linked from the download page. Same applies to a link in the release notes (currently has a !NOT YET! note) |
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| 09:46:02 | linuxstb | amiconn: I don't think there was a conclusion (B4gder?) , but the idea yesterday was that all targets would have a 3.0.1 release, to keep things simple. |
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| 10:01:06 | * | scorche agreed |
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| 10:26:41 | amiconn | linuxstb: Then someone should do that.... |
| 10:26:57 | * | amiconn thinks it's not necessary |
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| 10:27:38 | amiconn | I really want to have this out the door though. |
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| 10:32:29 | linuxstb | amiconn: "someone" can't be me today, so I wouldn't want to delay your release if no-one else wants to do what's necessary to bump all targets. |
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| 10:45:14 | Seth | hey i was wondering if rockbox will un fuck my fucked up iriver h10. its not completly fucked its just missing its system files. |
| 10:45:48 | scorche | the language is not needed... |
| 10:46:30 | Seth | sorry if i offended anyone |
| 10:51:04 | linuxstb | It's also not very descriptive of your problem. On the h10, Rockbox has no USB transfer mode, so you will need a working original firmware in order to transfer anything to it. |
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| 12:54:04 | linuxstb | I haven't tested it yet (but it compiles cleanly), but here is an initial refactoring of the jpeg viewer - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/jpeg_refactor_v1.diff |
| 12:54:11 | linuxstb | (the diff is impossible to read - best to apply it...) |
| 12:54:58 | linuxstb | Or here is the apps/plugins/jpeg/ directory - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/jpeg.tgz |
| 12:55:55 | * | linuxstb spoke too soon - his last changes broke the greyscale version - but you'll get the idea.... |
| 12:59:22 | linuxstb | Corrected versions here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/jpeg_refactor_v2.diff or http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/jpeg_v2.tgz |
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| 14:54:18 | funman | is SRAM common on rockbox target ? (as opposed to DRAM) |
| 14:54:24 | funman | targets* |
| 14:56:01 | linuxstb | Yes, most of the newer SoCs have embedded SRAM (about 64KB-128KB) |
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| 15:01:14 | olegfink | what's the progress on sigmatels stmp3xxx? |
| 15:01:31 | funman | for some Megabytes, it's most likely SDRAM then ? |
| 15:02:01 | olegfink | it just occured to me that they have exceptionally good sound, and given how cheap i.e. Creative ZenVs are, it makes sense to use them as usb audio dac |
| 15:02:12 | olegfink | but that definitely needs some firmware support :-) |
| 15:02:38 | linuxstb | funman: Yes |
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| 15:03:30 | olegfink | so, have you (or anyone else) got anything running on stmp3xxx? |
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| 15:05:51 | linuxstb | olegfink: I would expect any progress (if there is any) to be mentioned in any forum threads about devices with those chips. |
| 15:07:25 | olegfink | there are too many |
| 15:08:19 | scorche | too many for what? |
| 15:08:45 | olegfink | too many devices based on stmp3600 to track |
| 15:09:05 | olegfink | hmm, sigmatel provides a linux sdk for it |
| 15:09:12 | olegfink | are there any dev boards? |
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| 15:10:08 | scorche | you are looking at them...and i dont see why there are too many to track... |
| 15:15:22 | olegfink | well, seems no progress mentioned |
| 15:15:41 | linuxstb | olegfink: There's only one way to be sure of progress.,.. |
| 15:17:57 | olegfink | other than looking through the site? do tell. |
| 15:18:23 | olegfink | I wonder how sigmatel managed to release SDK without any dev boards |
| 15:18:25 | linuxstb | Do it yourself. |
| 15:19:29 | olegfink | given the stmp3600 is BGA, this going to be a lot of fun |
| 15:20:06 | linuxstb | Why do you need a devboard? Most Rockbox ports are done without any additional hardware. |
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| 15:21:47 | olegfink | because the devboard would run with sigmatel's SDK out of the box |
| 15:22:00 | olegfink | and I need just a stmp3600, not a portable player with it |
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| 15:23:38 | linuxstb | So you're not talking about porting Rockbox to such a device? |
| 15:27:48 | olegfink | at least not me porting it, I'd like either a devboard with their linux rootfs or something like Zen Stone with rockbox (which should be much cheaper) |
| 15:28:13 | olegfink | I've just got a Zen V, it sounds much better then mid-priced usb audio solutions. |
| 15:30:28 | funman | could a very high memory refresh frequency be harmful in another way than slow down operations ? |
| 15:32:25 | amiconn | funman: Most, if not all, SoC's have some internal SRAM. Even the SH7034 used in the old archos line does (4KB). |
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| 15:52:28 | funman | I make progress: I now got data abort when writign to the (supposed) RAM |
| 15:52:44 | funman | by the way I had forgotten to enter the self refresh mode (explain memory not refreshing) |
| 15:54:22 | funman | I'll read a bit the ARM technical reference, that can't harm |
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| 16:06:18 | linuxstb | GodEater: (as you asked in -community) my jpeg refactoring simply splits the code into jpeg_decoder.[ch] (the decoding to yuv), yuv2rgb.[ch] (conversion to colour - for colour LCDs only), and jpeg.c (the plugin itself). |
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| 16:07:00 | linuxstb | (and moves it into its own subdirectory). |
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| 16:10:33 | GodEater | this sounds like something which could make moving jpeg decoding into the core easier? |
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| 16:11:31 | linuxstb | That's the idea, plus creating a multi-format image viewer |
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| 16:13:38 | GodEater | ah yes of course |
| 16:14:11 | GodEater | Why not put it on FS too so people can see the emails about it, and get more attention to it ? |
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| 16:15:22 | linuxstb | I was hoping to just commit it... I need to test it on target first though, and do some more test compiles. I hope it's not controversial... |
| 16:15:23 | moos | or use svn even ;) |
| 16:15:35 | moos | too slow |
| 16:16:43 | GodEater | I shouldn't think it's controversial to many, if any people. It's something most people have been saying we need to move towards for a long time. |
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| 16:29:04 | webguest06 | Why does rockbox not support the newer nanos? |
| 16:29:06 | webguest06 | And will it ever |
| 16:29:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Because the newer nanos are encrypted, and no one has worked on them. And we don't know when they'll be supported. |
| 16:29:57 | webguest06 | lolololololololol |
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| 16:30:39 | scorche | bah...dont have those aliases on irssi on this client =/ |
| 16:30:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | scorche: Nice one! |
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| 16:33:04 | flux | smarter would be to use nick like scorchee, do tabulator expansion could miss ;) |
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| 18:21:51 | ptbarn | Hi I have a quick question. I think I may have a "truly" bricked c250. |
| 18:21:58 | ptbarn | I load the original firmware one |
| 18:22:08 | ptbarn | tried several different versions |
| 18:22:13 | ptbarn | it's a v1 btw |
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| 18:22:25 | ptbarn | and even used the e200tool |
| 18:22:31 | ptbarn | to restore the bootloader |
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| 18:22:49 | ptbarn | but whenever I connect the USB cable and windows mounts the device |
| 18:22:53 | ptbarn | the player freezes |
| 18:23:14 | ptbarn | like those two arrows going back and forth and the battery charge animation just freezes |
| 18:23:28 | ptbarn | is it just a defective player? |
| 18:23:44 | ptbarn | has anyone else experienced this and been able to fix it? |
| 18:23:58 | linuxstb | Do you have a memory card inserted? |
| 18:24:05 | ptbarn | no memory card |
| 18:24:25 | linuxstb | And does it work when you don't attach it to your computer? |
| 18:24:42 | ptbarn | for a few seconds |
| 18:24:57 | ptbarn | liek I'll turn it on after putting on a new firmware |
| 18:25:02 | ptbarn | and race to get to the USB menu |
| 18:25:09 | ptbarn | to put it in MSC mode |
| 18:25:15 | ptbarn | but it'll usually freeze before then |
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| 18:25:36 | ptbarn | sometimes it will freeze flashing the firmware |
| 18:25:47 | ptbarn | but I was always able to use e200tool |
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| 18:25:57 | gevaerts | ptbarn: do you have access to a linux PC? |
| 18:26:05 | ptbarn | yup |
| 18:26:17 | ptbarn | I've been using e200tool on linux |
| 18:26:28 | ptbarn | and even falshing the firmware from there too |
| 18:26:33 | ptbarn | after the device automounts |
| 18:26:46 | gevaerts | OK. Download gevaerts/c250erase">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250erase |
| 18:27:19 | gevaerts | Then run "chmod +x c250erase" |
| 18:27:51 | ptbarn | awesome, will try that when I get home today |
| 18:27:54 | gevaerts | After that, put the device in manufacturer mode (same as for e200tool), and run "sudo ./c250erase" |
| 18:28:14 | ptbarn | k |
| 18:28:24 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Any objections to me starting a wiki page with these instructions? You can add to them afterwards... |
| 18:28:27 | gevaerts | That will run some code on the c250. It will take a while |
| 18:28:48 | gevaerts | linuxstb: I need to integrate this thing in svn really soon I guess |
| 18:29:01 | gevaerts | But go ahead |
| 18:29:14 | ptbarn | do I need to run e200tool after running the erase program? |
| 18:29:24 | ptbarn | and restore the bootloader? |
| 18:29:40 | gevaerts | ptbarn: there will be output on the c250 screen while it's running, but after a while (45 minutes or more) it will tell you it's done |
| 18:30:04 | gevaerts | After that, you can do an e200tool recovery |
| 18:30:37 | ptbarn | excellent |
| 18:30:39 | gevaerts | Once you get it running again, I recommend reformatting it from inside the sandisk firmware |
| 18:30:51 | ptbarn | I thought it might be a hardware problem |
| 18:31:42 | gevaerts | Probably not. The Sandisk firmware is really bad at handling some sorts of data corruption, like a bad FAT superblock or a bad partition table |
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| 18:32:55 | ptbarn | so this tool will do something like a low level format to the memory? |
| 18:34:16 | linuxstb | gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Erase |
| 18:35:13 | ptbarn | doh, I seemed to have missed that the first time |
| 18:35:21 | ptbarn | thanks for your help guys |
| 18:35:35 | linuxstb | ptbarn: That page is 2 minutes old... |
| 18:35:53 | linuxstb | Lots of people are starting to need gevaerts's program. |
| 18:36:21 | ptbarn | hahah, ah ok |
| 18:37:11 | ptbarn | gonna go try this now. Again, I appreciate the help guys. Keep up the excellent work! |
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| 18:49:42 | gevaerts | ptbarn: yes, that's about what it does (not exactly, but close enough) |
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| 18:57:31 | MarcGuay | Can the unbrick instructions for the c200 and e200 be merged? Seems the only difference is the method to get into manufacturing/diagnosis mode. |
| 18:58:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | I don't see why not. |
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| 18:59:26 | linuxstb | MarcGuay: What c200 unbrick instructions? Shouldn't the E200 page be renamed? |
| 18:59:56 | MarcGuay | The c200 port page has a troubleshooting section which is essentially a watered-down e200unbrick. |
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| 19:01:04 | linuxstb | In terms of keeping it simple for users, separate pages (SansaE200Unbrick and SansaC200Unbrick) might be better. The page is already complicated enough, without lots of "if you have c200 do this, if you have e200 do this" sections. |
| 19:01:55 | MarcGuay | True enough. |
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| 19:02:01 | linuxstb | But I've always found the e200unbrick page hard to follow. |
| 19:02:24 | Strife89 | linuxstb: Funny you should mention that....... |
| 19:02:49 | * | Strife89 sifts through the logs. |
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| 19:03:36 | linuxstb | IMO it would be good if "someone" could simplify the e200 page (making it e200 specific, with step-by-step instructions), and then duplicate it for the c200, changing appropriately (and adding the c250erase tool) |
| 19:03:37 | Strife89 | linuxstb: Here's why: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20081021#00:44:42 |
| 19:04:22 | * | Strife89 will volunteer for the c200 part once his homework is done. |
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| 19:06:07 | Strife89 | linuxstb: By the way, thanks for that log link back there (I just realized it was you >_<). |
| 19:07:21 | MarcGuay | Is the c250erase tool specific to the 250 model or is that a goof? |
| 19:08:03 | Strife89 | I'm sure it works for c240s. |
| 19:08:29 | linuxstb | MarcGuay: Best to ask gevaerts about its limitations (if any) |
| 19:08:34 | MarcGuay | Might be nice to rename it to avoid confusion. (Not that c200 doesn't already confuse people, but anyway...) |
| 19:08:36 | Strife89 | I think the 250s are more common. C'mon, they have a GB more storage. |
| 19:09:04 | MarcGuay | Paging gevaerts. |
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| 19:12:59 | ptbarn2 | Hi guys |
| 19:13:11 | ptbarn2 | trying the c250erase utility right now |
| 19:13:17 | pixelma | if I remember correctly gevaerts wrote that tool because on the c200s the sansa.fmt doesn't work as "reliable" as on the e200s. But he should know best |
| 19:13:41 | ptbarn2 | [INFO] Press Enter to continue: [INFO] Searching for E200R [INFO] Found E200R, uploading patching application. [INFO] Patching application uploaded successfully! [INFO] Press ENTER to exit: |
| 19:13:50 | Strife89 | pixelma: I'm all for single-task tools. |
| 19:14:02 | ptbarn2 | that was real quick |
| 19:14:06 | ptbarn2 | then the screen is showing |
| 19:14:16 | ptbarn2 | Zeroing Flash |
| 19:14:24 | ptbarn2 | 125408 kb left |
| 19:14:43 | ptbarn2 | 125376 kb left |
| 19:14:47 | ptbarn2 | and it stopped there |
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| 19:15:31 | pixelma | Strife89: huh? Sansa.fmt is a functionality provided by the original firmware, but I really don't know much about it |
| 19:16:03 | Strife89 | pixelma: I was referring to gevaerts's tool. |
| 19:16:52 | ptbarn2 | does the formatting utility sometimes freeze on the c250? |
| 19:17:05 | pixelma | yes? Not sure what you want to tell me with the single-task tools then |
| 19:17:05 | ptbarn2 | the c250erase tool I mean |
| 19:17:07 | Strife89 | pixelma: Tools that do only one thing tend to do it exceptionally well. Know what I mean? ;) |
| 19:18:02 | linuxstb | Strife89: I don't think anyone has suggested otherwise... |
| 19:18:12 | pixelma | I give up here |
| 19:18:27 | domonoky | ptbarn2: i think you should just be patience, geavarts said it could take loong... so wait an hour and see if it worked :-) |
| 19:18:54 | * | Strife89 drops the subject. |
| 19:19:54 | ptbarn2 | alright, sounds good, just wanted to make sure it wasn't stuck. because from the first two lines it looks like it's going to read off how much kB there was left to "Zero" |
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| 19:20:24 | ptbarn2 | but since it stopped after 2 lines, I was thinking it might be my c250 freezing |
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| 19:20:38 | tonyspeaks | HI there. I'm a blind user, and I'm having trouble creating .talk files with the rock box utilities. I've already been to the forums for a slution to this problem, and there isn't enough information there about it for me to get a handle on it. |
| 19:20:58 | domonoky | tonyspeaks: whats the problem ? |
| 19:21:08 | tonyspeaks | It's the encoding errror. It tries to encode something in a temp file and says it can't. |
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| 19:21:31 | tonyspeaks | It worked fine when I used thhe utility to encode directly onto my micro sd card, but not when I used the player. |
| 19:21:51 | domonoky | which OS is this ? |
| 19:21:57 | tonyspeaks | Windows Vista. |
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| 19:23:05 | domonoky | hm, i have never tested the util on vista.. this is rbutil1.0.7b ? |
| 19:23:11 | tonyspeaks | yes. |
| 19:24:04 | tonyspeaks | I was trying to use a voice other than Anna because I dont' like that voice, and it gave me that encoding error. Like I said, I was able to use the utility to encode talk files onto a micro SD card, and it worked great. |
| 19:24:19 | * | domonoky thinks that it probably has problems generating a voicefile for some files. and then encoding fails, because the wav file doesnt exist.. |
| 19:24:24 | tonyspeaks | but not at all whhen I used the player. It's a Sansa e200. |
| 19:24:55 | tonyspeaks | trouble generating a wave file? |
| 19:25:21 | tonyspeaks | It says taht it can't encode the talk file, but it didn't say why. I suppose that makes sense. |
| 19:25:22 | domonoky | yes. it uses a tts engine to create a wav file from the filenames.. |
| 19:25:41 | domonoky | and then it encodes those wav files to talkclips.. |
| 19:26:08 | tonyspeaks | At first I thought it might be something wrong with the way it handles the TTS engine, but it worked when I tried to use the micro sd card. |
| 19:26:17 | tonyspeaks | weird. |
| 19:26:36 | domonoky | try pointing it to only subfolder on your sansa with only a few files... |
| 19:26:53 | domonoky | to see if this works... |
| 19:27:04 | tonyspeaks | Okay. I'll let you know |
| 19:27:08 | tonyspeaks | Thanks . |
| 19:27:14 | domonoky | but i suspect a problematic filename on your device. |
| 19:28:02 | domonoky | If you find the offending file, please make it somehow available (filename is enough) so i can improve the talkfile generation :-) |
| 19:28:05 | amiconn | How "great". Resume bugs are back :( |
| 19:28:46 | tonyspeaks | hm. I try to look point it to the directory contining my music on the player, but it doesn't see it. It sees the other directories though, like photo and video, and the .rockbox directory. |
| 19:29:14 | domonoky | i think the music directory is hidden on sansa... |
| 19:29:37 | domonoky | you can also just enter the path into the box 8with out selecting it via browse) |
| 19:29:47 | tonyspeaks | okay. Leme see if I can unhide it with ... okay I'll try that. |
| 19:31:05 | domonoky | another unrelated question: how is accessibility of our util on vista ? does it work good with screenreader ? |
| 19:31:09 | tonyspeaks | It's running now. It usually geneartes the error after a while, so I'll wait and see. |
| 19:32:16 | tonyspeaks | not too wonderful, but I don't think you can help that. Unless you can implememtn implement native Windows controls, which I heard is out of the question, or use MSAA somehow, I don't thinkk it can be made very accessible. I'm pretty good with my reader though, so I can work with it okay |
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| 19:32:34 | amiconn | tonyspeaks: If rbutil doesn't work when generating .talk clips, you could also try VoiceBox |
| 19:33:21 | tonyspeaks | My biggest problem with it is tha that the error messages / dialogs letting me know when a process is finished won't read at all except for the okay button. |
| 19:33:49 | tonyspeaks | My problem with the voice box is that it won't let me use any other voice than microsoft Anna. It works great other than that. |
| 19:33:52 | domonoky | tonyspeaks: if your are able to use it, its good :-) There are ways to improve accessibility, but for this we need to now exactly what doesnt work.. |
| 19:34:06 | amiconn | (although VoiceBox wasn't tested on Vista so far either) |
| 19:34:14 | tonyspeaks | the names of the tab controls don't read. It only says "tab." |
| 19:34:45 | tonyspeaks | Maybe I should try running all these things on an XP machine. |
| 19:35:01 | domonoky | for example i have improved the progressdialog, so in svn you should be able to find more than "ok" :-) |
| 19:35:49 | domonoky | the Tab problem is known, its a Qt bug wich will be hopefully fixed someday.. |
| 19:36:00 | tonyspeaks | oh? I don't know SVN very well at all. Will that help get a later build than what is on the releases page? |
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| 19:36:36 | domonoky | its a bit difficult to build rbutils your self, so better wait for the next release :-) |
| 19:37:34 | tonyspeaks | Another accessibility issue is in the configure tts dialog. It doesn't read the prompts, so I can't tell if I'm configuring the volume or some other thing that has a numberic value. I can choose the voice and language with no problem whtough. |
| 19:37:43 | tonyspeaks | numeric* |
| 19:38:10 | tonyspeaks | I'll wait for the next relase then. SVN is really unfamiliar to me. |
| 19:38:22 | domonoky | it would be very nice if could make a flyspray report for this issues, or else i will forget them :-) |
| 19:38:44 | tonyspeaks | I understand. I'll be gllad to . |
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| 19:38:47 | domonoky | the tts configure dialog should be possible to improve.. |
| 19:39:57 | tonyspeaks | Any idea why I can generate talk files on the micro sd card with the utility but not when I have it do it on the player? I took the micro sd card out of the player and inserted it into the computer directly, thenn I pointed the utility to the drive for it, and no problems. |
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| 19:41:19 | domonoky | i think there is a problematic file on your player (not on the card) which makes the generating fail.. but i could be wrong :-) |
| 19:42:00 | tonyspeaks | I think you're probably right. It says it can't encode the talk file, but it seems to try to encode it into a temp directory. |
| 19:42:09 | tonyspeaks | on my local hard drive. |
| 19:43:46 | domonoky | yes, it generates wav file in a temp directory on your harddrive, and then when it encodes them, it puts them to the player |
| 19:44:25 | tonyspeaks | does it do all the encoding first then send the talk files to the player? |
| 19:44:30 | amiconn | Bah, .talk clips are broken too :(( |
| 19:44:36 | domonoky | perhaps i should also improve the error message, so you know which file fails :-) |
| 19:45:17 | domonoky | it first creates all wav files, and then encodes directly to the player |
| 19:45:36 | tonyspeaks | I think it said the name of the file, but I can't remember. My son had to read me the error message because I can only see the graphics and the okay button with my screen reader. |
| 19:46:16 | domonoky | oh, no. it does all locally, and copies later. |
| 19:46:27 | tonyspeaks | I remember it said it couldn't encode c:\blah blah\temp\something.talk. That sounded like it was trying to encode to the temp directory. |
| 19:46:53 | tonyspeaks | oh okay. Then it may be some problem with one of the wave files. |
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| 19:47:31 | domonoky | no, thats just because they are intermediate files... so i think the voicing silently fails, and there is no file to encode :-) |
| 19:48:00 | domonoky | did it work to generate talk files only for the music dir ? |
| 19:48:10 | tonyspeaks | hmm. I forgot that was runnning |
| 19:48:14 | tonyspeaks | Laughing Out Loud let me see. |
| 19:48:28 | tonyspeaks | It's still going |
| 19:48:41 | tonyspeaks | It never went that long before |
| 19:50:10 | tonyspeaks | bbs, need to step away. |
| 19:50:23 | * | domonoky detects also failed encodings when he tries talk generation on his dir of problematic files.. there is work todo :-) |
| 19:50:45 | domonoky | tonyspeaks: if you find the problematic file, please tell me.. |
| 19:51:26 | MarcGuay | Strife89: Is Diagnosis mode on the c200 the same as Manufacturing mode on the e200? |
| 19:53:16 | gevaerts | MarcGuay: this is a really dumb tool, so there's another version for c240 |
| 19:53:49 | MarcGuay | gevaerts: Gotcha. That c200erase page could use some love, then... : |
| 19:53:49 | gevaerts | ptbarn: I've never seen it freeze. If it keeps freezing, maybe it |
| 19:54:03 | gevaerts | 's a hardware issue after all |
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| 19:56:56 | gevaerts | MarcGuay: actually, I think the tool needs some work instead |
| 19:57:03 | amiconn | Looks like Zagor goofed when doing the id3.c split... |
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| 20:03:51 | ptbarn | Hey guys, I tried the c250 erase tool quite a few times |
| 20:04:06 | ptbarn | and I got this error at different points |
| 20:04:08 | ptbarn | *PANIC* spkkv 11007b18 |
| 20:04:17 | ptbarn | this was on the actual c250 |
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| 20:04:59 | gevaerts | ptbarn: this is beginning to look like a hardware issue |
| 20:05:13 | ptbarn | ah dang |
| 20:05:37 | ptbarn | oh well, I've tried every avenue, but I can't contend with a hardware issue |
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| 20:05:50 | ptbarn | thanks for the help, though |
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| 20:05:53 | gevaerts | One thing you could try is using c240erase (same URL, except it's a 4 instead of a 5). If the problem is bad flash, this may work |
| 20:06:07 | gevaerts | You'll end up with a 1GB player though |
| 20:06:15 | tonyspeaks | Domonoky, I'll let you know if I find a problematic file. |
| 20:06:38 | ptbarn | try the c240erase? |
| 20:06:39 | ptbarn | hmmm |
| 20:06:58 | ptbarn | well, i got nothing to lose otherwise, other than a gig |
| 20:07:05 | ptbarn | and that's better than no gigs |
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| 20:07:23 | gevaerts | Or maybe open it and check for loose connections |
| 20:07:34 | ptbarn | yeah, I did that |
| 20:07:41 | ptbarn | really didn't know what I was looking for though |
| 20:07:52 | ptbarn | everything seemed fine inside |
| 20:08:05 | ptbarn | the problem is intermittent too |
| 20:08:24 | ptbarn | like to get the c250erase to show up on th device |
| 20:08:33 | ptbarn | and read off the zeroing of memory |
| 20:08:41 | ptbarn | was like 1 out of 5 times |
| 20:09:00 | tonyspeaks | Domonoky, the encoding of talk files worked when I just pointed it to the music folder on the player. |
| 20:09:23 | gevaerts | That may be normal. Manufacturer mode can be a bit picky |
| 20:09:34 | domonoky | tonyspeaks: good, so the problematic file is outside of "music" :-) |
| 20:09:44 | tonyspeaks | yes, thank God. |
| 20:09:57 | tonyspeaks | It won't be difficult to find it now. |
| 20:11:53 | linuxstb | amiconn: Do you know what Zagor did, or just that it was that commit? |
| 20:11:56 | tonyspeaks | Domonoky, I want to thank you very m uch for your help with this. I have to get back to work now, but I will come back on and let you know where that problem file is just in case it's useful information, justt in case it's player specific, and I'll be filling out a fly spray report for the utility accessibility stuff |
| 20:12:08 | amiconn | linuxstb: I found the problem |
| 20:12:26 | ptbarn | ahh, ok. Hmm, hope it's not a hardware issue, the "Zeroing status" would get to different points (when it did work) and then show the panic message. If it was a memory problem, I assume it would have been happening at the same kB "Zeroing status" |
| 20:12:28 | domonoky | tonyspeaks: good. the problematic filename is usefull |
| 20:12:41 | amiconn | When he split id3.c, he replaced the call to get_mp3_metadata() in mp3info() with a call to get_metadata() |
| 20:12:49 | tonyspeaks | I'll talk to you soon then. Have a great day, and thanks again. |
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| 20:13:21 | amiconn | However, hwcodec calls mp3info() for talking (in order to skip eventual id3v2 tags) |
| 20:13:28 | gevaerts | ptbarn: once it gets started, it should run without problems. It's just the first upload that can be tricky |
| 20:13:56 | amiconn | get_metadata() tries to guess the file format from the extension before calling the appropriate get_*_metadata() function |
| 20:14:23 | amiconn | But get_metadata() doesn't know that .talk is mp3... |
| 20:14:46 | amiconn | ...so it fails, and .talk clips don't work |
| 20:15:17 | linuxstb | So Rockbox checks .talk clips for id3 tags? |
| 20:15:34 | domonoky | shoudnt we then just make .talk known to get_metadata() ? (as mp3 for hwcodec, speex for swcodec) |
| 20:15:41 | amiconn | Yes, in order to skip them. They might cause funny noise when fed to the MAS |
| 20:15:50 | amiconn | domonoky: No, why? |
| 20:16:03 | amiconn | Swcodec doesn't call mp3info() for .talk clips |
| 20:16:15 | ptbarn | yeah, that was the weird thing, one time I decided to try something different. So I kept my thumb on the middle button while it was "Zeroing" |
| 20:16:23 | ptbarn | for about a minute and a half |
| 20:16:28 | ptbarn | I thought all might be well |
| 20:16:31 | amiconn | And the function is called _mp3info_, implying it checks for mp3 *only* |
| 20:16:34 | ptbarn | so I let go of the middle button |
| 20:16:48 | ptbarn | and I immedietly got a panic |
| 20:17:00 | ptbarn | then when I tried again the next time |
| 20:17:01 | Strife89 | MarcGuay: I'm not certian. |
| 20:17:14 | ptbarn | I didn't let go of the button |
| 20:17:21 | ptbarn | and still go the panic |
| 20:17:39 | ptbarn | my c250 is finicky |
| 20:17:46 | MarcGuay | Iit appears that the c140s all use the NAND interface and the c150s use the SD-style, which is nice in that it provides an easy way to distinguish them. Working OF version is another way. Ramble. |
| 20:18:33 | gevaerts | ptbarn: c240erase probably won't help then |
| 20:18:54 | MarcGuay | Strife89: Talkin' c100 series, in case you thought c200. |
| 20:19:29 | Strife89 | MarcGuay: Which I did, but my answer is still the same. :) |
| 20:19:31 | amiconn | Bah, now I have a crashing rockbox :( |
| 20:19:42 | amiconn | I09 CPUAdrEr at 0901FDA0 |
| 20:19:54 | MarcGuay | Strife89: Do you have evidence to the contrary? |
| 20:19:58 | ptbarn | ah, then it looks likes nothing can help this player...maybe I'll pick up one of those refurbed e270's from buy.com |
| 20:20:43 | Strife89 | MarcGuay: I've never used a c*1*00. :( |
| 20:21:19 | amiconn | That's directly at the start of filesize() ... I wonder what's going on here |
| 20:21:41 | gevaerts | ptbarn: if you're in the US, you can buy from froobi.com. They guarantee rockbox compatibility |
| 20:22:10 | ptbarn | sweet, I'll check it out |
| 20:22:11 | gevaerts | (if you select a rockbox-compatible one, that is. They also have v2s) |
| 20:22:15 | ptbarn | thanks for he help! |
| 20:22:43 | Strife89 | gevaerts: On behalf of ercferret18, I appreciate your tool. :) |
| 20:24:41 | amiconn | AH, swapped arguments... |
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| 20:25:22 | Strife89 | ??? |
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| 20:40:21 | * | n1s wonders if linuxstb had seen FS #6649 |
| 20:44:25 | linuxstb | n1s: I saw it after I committed... But 6649 doesn't do it very nicely - it exports more things than are needed from each .c file for example. |
| 20:44:38 | linuxstb | And it seemed out of date |
| 20:44:57 | n1s | amiconn: or anyone else familiar with the h300 lcd driver, FS #9501 is a hardware issue, right? Or are we pushing it beyond spec? Would increasing wait states in the regular build be a major penalty? |
| 20:45:02 | * | linuxstb closes it |
| 20:45:11 | n1s | linuxstb: ah, ok, I'll close it then if you haven't already |
| 20:45:48 | linuxstb | n1s: I just did. |
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| 20:50:53 | linuxstb | Anyone know why the ata_spindown() code is #ifndef SIMULATOR in the jpeg viewer ? Looking at the sim code, it has a dummy function to implement it. |
| 20:50:54 | amiconn | n1s: We aren't pushing it beyond specs, but we go close to the limit |
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| 20:51:34 | amiconn | That is, we only get near the limit when the CPU is boosted. |
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| 20:55:26 | n1s | amiconn: so should we slow it down or tell them to patch themselves and close the bug? |
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| 20:57:12 | esthar | How can I tell if my 30GB iPod is 512 byte or 2048 byte sectors? |
| 20:59:12 | amiconn | n1s: The question is how much slowdown would be needed. Impossible to tell without having access to a problematic unit... |
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| 21:00:05 | linuxstb | esthar: Run ipodpatcher - it will tell you. |
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| 21:12:03 | gevaerts | MarcGuay: are you still editing SansaE200Unbrick? |
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| 21:12:28 | MarcGuay | gevaerts: Nope. Must have crashed while it was open. |
| 21:12:54 | MarcGuay | I started working separating c200/e200 unbrick but gave up. |
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| 21:13:23 | * | gevaerts is going to add a c200 specific bit :) |
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| 21:13:55 | amiconn | "unbrick" is somewhat self-contradictory |
| 21:14:27 | MarcGuay | Undead |
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| 21:19:44 | gevaerts | OK. I've now updated botf SansaC200Erase and SansaE200Unbrick, as well as committed all necessary changes to svn. People can now happily put NTFS on their c200, in the knowledge that they can recover even if I'm asleep :) |
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| 21:20:27 | * | gevaerts still doesn't recommend this of course |
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| 21:22:15 | linuxstb | gevaerts: How do you build it though? Don't you need something to upload that .bin to the device? I'm guessing a modified e200rpatcher? |
| 21:22:31 | * | linuxstb reads the commit message... |
| 21:22:36 | * | gevaerts tells linuxstb to read SansaC200Erase :) |
| 21:22:45 | gevaerts | It's fully e200tool compatible |
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| 21:23:17 | linuxstb | Hmm, but e200tool isn't really a Rockbox tool... I guess integrating with e200rpatcher is a job for Mr Someone |
| 21:23:52 | gevaerts | True, but if you get far enough to need this, you need e200tool anyway |
| 21:24:18 | linuxstb | Or we replace e200tool with a ARM application that provides UMS |
| 21:24:25 | linuxstb | (once UMS is stable...) |
| 21:25:44 | gevaerts | That is indeed the ultimate solution. Replace e200rpatcher with sansaUsbTool, and you have the ultimate sansa v1 installation/recovery helper |
| 21:26:21 | * | linuxstb adds that to Mr Someone's todo list |
| 21:26:39 | gevaerts | Mr Someone can unify the c240 and c250 erasers to get started |
| 21:27:09 | * | gevaerts still doesn't understand why apparently nobody had this sort of problem before he wrote that tool |
| 21:27:59 | linuxstb | Maybe they just returned them to Sandisk. But now they're out of warranty. |
| 21:28:36 | linuxstb | And I think your tool came quite soon after the Rockbox port - so we had no reason to know. |
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| 21:30:32 | amiconn | Bagder: ping |
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| 22:10:03 | fml | XavierGr: ping. Please look into FS #9455 |
| 22:11:26 | linuxstb | fml: C99 introduced variable-sized arrays... (it was news to me) |
| 22:12:04 | fml | linuxstb: might be. But it's a malloc in disguise then :-) |
| 22:12:21 | linuxstb | No, it's an alloca in disguise. |
| 22:12:32 | linuxstb | (sort of) |
| 22:12:58 | fml | linuxstb: may be. It's dynamic memory allocation IMHO which we don't want. |
| 22:13:25 | linuxstb | dynamic allocation on the stack is completely different. |
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| 22:13:49 | bertrik | it seems funman recognised the sansa clip SDRAM interface as a PL172, nice |
| 22:14:06 | BeChris | Good evening everybody |
| 22:14:23 | fml | linuxstb: agreed. But it still results in the fact that you can't tell at compile time how much memory (heap or stack) you'll need |
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| 22:15:58 | linuxstb | fml: Note that I was just talking in general - I don't think it's useful in this patch. |
| 22:16:00 | amiconn | fml: Imo alloca() and friends are perfectly ok. Just keep in mind that the stack is rather small |
| 22:16:10 | * | linuxstb can't even find it being used in that patch... |
| 22:16:13 | bertrik | too bad he committed it to the "wrong" repository |
| 22:16:43 | fml | linuxstb: have you read the last comment in FS #9455? What do you think about using snprintf instead of strcat? |
| 22:17:01 | gevaerts | You can't exactly predict stack usage in general anyway |
| 22:18:30 | BeChris | I'm looking for someone who would like to speak about improving the build process (see FS #9492) |
| 22:18:34 | BeChris | Anyone ? |
| 22:19:29 | fml | gevaerts: right. But you can tell how much stack particular function will eat. With alloca you can't even that. |
| 22:20:14 | linuxstb | fml: It just means to need to know what range of values you'll be passing to alloca |
| 22:20:15 | Bagder | BeChris: I think everyone is interested in such improvements |
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| 22:20:56 | linuxstb | fml: So snprintf will always pad with a trailing zero, even when the string overflows? |
| 22:20:58 | BeChris | Badger : I'm currently evaluating the cmake tool in order to replace existing Makefiles |
| 22:20:58 | amiconn | Bagder: Could you make the release download page point to 3.0.1 for the archoses? |
| 22:21:03 | fml | linuxstb, amiconn: strcat vs. snprintf is IMHO a general issue. It's relevant not only for this patch, but rather as a philosophy in programming (and rockbox) |
| 22:21:10 | webguest54 | all, having an issue loading rockbox on my h320 |
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| 22:21:38 | MarcGuay | Release notes as well. |
| 22:21:39 | Bagder | BeChris: I'll admit I'm sceptic |
| 22:21:42 | fml | linuxstb: yes, if I understand the description correctly. I don't know whether our impl does that though. |
| 22:21:51 | linuxstb | webguest54: Just ask - the channel is busy at the moment, but people will read your questions |
| 22:21:51 | webguest54 | patched 1.29eu with fwpatcher but the bootloader isn't loading, any ideas? |
| 22:22:08 | webguest54 | just boots to the standard iriver fw |
| 22:22:26 | webguest54 | (followed instr in the manual) |
| 22:22:44 | linuxstb | webguest54: Try again - I think it sometimes needs a few attempts (unless I'm confusing the h320 with something else) |
| 22:23:06 | webguest54 | i've tried about 5 times with various fw flavors, 1.25 through 1.29, korean, english |
| 22:23:07 | BeChris | Badger : can you explain why ? (it looks very good to me and makes things shorter and easier than classical Makefiles) |
| 22:23:12 | linuxstb | fml: The manpage isn't clear to me... |
| 22:23:13 | gevaerts | webguest54: you did flash the bootloader afterwards, right? |
| 22:23:15 | webguest54 | did a chkdsk and found no probs with the drive |
| 22:23:30 | webguest54 | using the firmware upgrade option from the standard iriver fw, yes |
| 22:23:46 | gevaerts | ok, just checking the obvious :) |
| 22:23:47 | Bagder | BeChris: because it'll require a new tool, because it's a new tool to learn, because Makefiles are traditional and known to many people already, because I've not seen any proven benefits |
| 22:23:47 | MarcGuay | webguest54: Try using Rockbox Utilty? |
| 22:23:58 | webguest54 | I did |
| 22:23:59 | webguest54 | no joy |
| 22:24:11 | GodEater_ | Bagder: and because you're a grumpy old man? :) |
| 22:24:15 | linuxstb | fml: Yes, it looks like our implementation does. |
| 22:24:17 | Bagder | oh yes, that too |
| 22:24:26 | GodEater_ | hehehe |
| 22:24:27 | webguest54 | resulting hex file after patching ~ 4mb |
| 22:24:29 | linuxstb | fml: In which case, snprintf seems sensible |
| 22:24:32 | webguest54 | before, about 2.7mb |
| 22:25:08 | webguest54 | it is updaing the fw too i think, because the loaded firmware version changes on the iriver splash screen |
| 22:25:13 | BeChris | Badger : Have you used it already ? According to what I already made to replace rockbox Makefiles, it sounds that it requiere less maintenance |
| 22:25:28 | n1s | webguest54: are you sure you copied the correct file to the player and that the iriver firmware actually flashed it? |
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| 22:25:37 | fml | linuxstb: I'd even say necessary (instead of sensible) |
| 22:25:38 | amiconn | Bagder: I'm perfectly fine if we stay with classic Makefiles, but we have about a dozen dependency problems right now... |
| 22:25:46 | Bagder | BeChris: no, I've not used it |
| 22:26:02 | Bagder | amiconn: I know that, but is cmake the fix we need for them? |
| 22:26:15 | webguest54 | I am, there is only one file i'm dealing with −− 2.7mb pre patch, 4mb after patch, copy to iriver, then flash using fw upgrade option |
| 22:26:16 | fml | linuxstb: app layer may crash but the firmware layer should be rock solid. |
| 22:26:25 | Bagder | to me, our problem is rather that nobody is working on the build problems |
| 22:26:27 | BeChris | Badger : I agree it will add a dependency towards a new tool but it makes life easier compared to make |
| 22:26:39 | amiconn | I didn't say so... but someone who knows Makefiles well enough should really fix them |
| 22:26:46 | gevaerts | fml: app layer is allowed to be slow, but the firmware layer needs to be fast ;) |
| 22:27:06 | amiconn | They are annoying, but I am not able to fix them, even though I looked into them more than once |
| 22:27:11 | Bagder | BeChris: I only said I'm skeptic, I'm not vetoing the idea... |
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| 22:27:13 | n1s | webguest54: did you also install rockbox? |
| 22:27:26 | gevaerts | fml: also, if a plugin crashes, it usually takes the entire player down as well |
| 22:27:33 | webguest54 | I did. at least, .rockbox resides in the player's root |
| 22:27:52 | olegfink | hi again |
| 22:27:54 | olegfink | http://rafb.net/p/lKwwxz10.html |
| 22:27:56 | webguest54 | regardless the bootloader should work no? |
| 22:28:05 | olegfink | after some disassembly |
| 22:28:13 | webguest54 | whether or not .rockbox is there |
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| 22:28:59 | amiconn | fml: *imo* neither apps nor firmware should crash, even when throwing bad files on them. Unfortunately several modules don't behave like that right now |
| 22:29:06 | olegfink | (that's chip details for rover m2, which is almost equal to m1) |
| 22:29:11 | gevaerts | BeChris: I think you should post a patch, even if it's incomplete at the moment. |
| 22:29:29 | webguest54 | should i just delete all files off the player? |
| 22:29:35 | webguest54 | and reupgrade? |
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| 22:29:48 | n1s | webguest54: yes, but it might just boot the original firmware if there is no rockbox installed, a sure way to know is to connect usb while the player is off (no charger connected) if it shows a blue background with "bootloader usb mode" in the middle the bootloader is installed |
| 22:30:00 | fml | gevaerts, amiconn: I was joking of course. But the rock solidness should be build from firmware to app if can't have it everywhere at once |
| 22:30:04 | Riyonuk | Umm, question. When I turn on my ipod, it takes a while to load rockbox, as opposed to the default firmware, is this normal? |
| 22:30:16 | BeChris | gevaerts : good guess. It's very incomplete for the moment |
| 22:30:30 | BeChris | only tools, firmware and a part of apps converted |
| 22:30:47 | webguest54 | right −− bl is not installed i'm almost sure, I have rbox on my h120 so if should look similar, it doesn't |
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| 22:31:40 | gevaerts | BeChris: Right now we're basically discussing with most of the people not really knowing what it's about. A patch would change that |
| 22:31:54 | MarcGuay | olegfink: Are you familiar with this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SigmaTelSTMP3xxx and the problems porting to 35xx targets? |
| 22:32:03 | n1s | webguest54: that is incredibly weird... does the version of the original firmware change if you flash a different version? I.e does a regular upgrade work |
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| 22:32:21 | webguest54 | i guess the 6th time's a charm. now i'm seeing bootloader usb mode |
| 22:32:37 | webguest54 | to install rbox now, i just unzip rockbox to the root directory correct?? |
| 22:32:40 | BeChris | gevaerts : ok, i will post it right now on FS #9492 and ask for feedback |
| 22:32:49 | n1s | webguest54: yes |
| 22:32:55 | gevaerts | fml: another view could be that if you can't write safe code without the various *n* functions, you shouldn't touch the core anyway ;) |
| 22:33:04 | Riyonuk | -_- |
| 22:33:35 | n1s | Riyonuk: yes, rockbox always starts from an off state, the original firmware sleeps instead of powering down completely |
| 22:34:04 | Riyonuk | :O |
| 22:34:06 | webguest54 | there was some weird "eng" folder that i deleted |
| 22:34:07 | Riyonuk | That's horrible :( |
| 22:34:11 | webguest54 | i wonder if that had something to do with it |
| 22:34:25 | webguest54 | success!! |
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| 22:34:37 | gevaerts | Riyonuk: does it really take that long? |
| 22:34:45 | webguest54 | thanks for your help everyone, better support here than almost any commercial product in the world |
| 22:34:48 | Riyonuk | It kinda does XD |
| 22:35:07 | * | gevaerts never found rockbox boot times "horrible" |
| 22:35:56 | Riyonuk | Eh, just wondering. Would be wonderful if I didn't see a splash screen, or the apple logo evertime I boot up, never saw that with normal firmware. |
| 22:36:07 | * | mcuelenaere notices a HTML bug on the wiki pages |
| 22:36:10 | linuxstb | Riyonuk: That's the same reason |
| 22:36:15 | mcuelenaere | PayPal?"> |
| 22:36:28 | mcuelenaere | has this already been reported? |
| 22:36:36 | MarcGuay | mcuelenaere: I saw it but didn't say anything. |
| 22:36:45 | webguest54 | does rockbox support charging via usb for the h320? |
| 22:36:51 | MarcGuay | Thought it might be one of Firefox's new tricks. |
| 22:37:05 | Riyonuk | linuxstb, same reason what? |
| 22:37:08 | * | mcuelenaere thinks Twiki is thinking PayPal is a wiki page |
| 22:37:14 | fml | gevaerts: I think that we shouldn't make firmware code dependent on the app layer code. If we had standard string sizes for all the different cases then we could probably do without n-functions in the firmware layer. But since we don't have them I'd use n-funcs. |
| 22:37:32 | mcuelenaere | Mr |
| 22:37:39 | amiconn | Bagder: ? |
| 22:37:41 | mcuelenaere | MarcGuay: look at the source, you'll see the bug |
| 22:37:45 | linuxstb | Riyonuk: The apple logo is displayed by Apple's bootloader when your ipod is powered on. You don't see that normally because the original firmware doesn't power off. |
| 22:37:46 | Bagder | amiconn: ? |
| 22:38:05 | amiconn | [22:21:08] <amiconn> Bagder: Could you make the release download page point to 3.0.1 for the archoses? |
| 22:38:09 | mcuelenaere | in the <img alt=""> tag, there's this word PayPal and Twiki presumes it's a wiki page |
| 22:38:19 | Bagder | it's in progress |
| 22:38:27 | Riyonuk | linuxstb, so curious, is that a good thing? Am I preservering battery that way? |
| 22:39:00 | mcuelenaere | any wiki admins around? |
| 22:39:22 | linuxstb | Maybe a tiny amount. But the main reason Rockbox doesn't have a "sleep mode" is that nobody has cared enough to implement it. |
| 22:39:30 | * | Bagder blames zagor for that paypal thing |
| 22:39:56 | mcuelenaere | wasn't there a wiki bug report page? |
| 22:40:33 | pixelma | WikiIssues or similar |
| 22:40:44 | MarcGuay | mcuelenaere: It's linked from the wiki side-bar page. |
| 22:40:56 | amiconn | Bagder: I asked again because I didn't ee any response... |
| 22:41:07 | mcuelenaere | MarcGuay, pixelma: found it |
| 22:41:08 | amiconn | s/ee/see/ |
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| 22:42:10 | pixelma | mcuelenaere: it's right below the headline in the WebHome page too (in red) ;) |
| 22:42:18 | BeChris | Thanks everybody for your answers on cmake topic |
| 22:42:20 | BeChris | Bye |
| 22:42:22 | mcuelenaere | yep, that's how I noticed :) |
| 22:42:25 | * | amiconn should open a bug report for the borked resume :\ |
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| 22:45:17 | Bagder | amiconn: 3.0.1 is going live in 10 seconds on the download page |
| 22:46:09 | Bagder | man I spell good |
| 22:46:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | And they're up! |
| 22:47:01 | linuxstb | Nico_P: That chained-ogg-file task (FS #9502) seems like a valid bug (if true...) |
| 22:47:03 | Bagder | the source archive is still 3.0 though |
| 22:47:54 | Nico_P | linuxstb: yes, maybe I was a bit quick to close it. it looks a lot like a FR though |
| 22:48:11 | linuxstb | Nico_P: Yes, it's a bug report disguised as a feature request... |
| 22:48:59 | amiconn | Bagder: Hmm. We should probably offer a 3.0.1 source archive... |
| 22:49:00 | Nico_P | it also links to a torrent of dubious legality |
| 22:49:32 | Bagder | amiconn: did you tag the 3.0.1? |
| 22:50:33 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I don't think it's dubious - it looks plain illegal... |
| 22:50:50 | Nico_P | indeed. I said that before checking ;) |
| 22:50:58 | amiconn | No I didn't. You said you could do that... /me would have to read up on tagging in the svn tutorial... |
| 22:51:15 | Bagder | I added a command line to the release checklist wiki, but I can do it sure |
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| 22:51:30 | linuxstb | Nico_P: But IIUC, chained ogg files are just created with "cat file1.ogg file2.ogg file3.ogg > chained.ogg" |
| 22:52:05 | linuxstb | Which is what makes them Rockbox unfriendly - we would need to scan the entire file to find out how many ogg files there are. |
| 22:52:30 | amiconn | r18843 was the last commit for 3.0.1 (the flashing chapter in the manual) |
| 22:53:24 | Bagder | amiconn: but nothing else has been committed to the 3.0 branch since, has it? |
| 22:53:28 | Nico_P | linuxstb: how hard would it be to prevent the crash? |
| 22:54:06 | amiconn | Bagder: no |
| 22:54:57 | linuxstb | Nico_P: I seem to remember writing code to detect chained ogg files... Let me check the source. |
| 22:55:06 | amiconn | linuxstb: Imo rockbox should just play the first part of chained ogg files, then stop |
| 22:55:26 | olegfink | MarcGuay: page, probably, but not the problems |
| 22:55:30 | olegfink | what are they? |
| 22:55:37 | amiconn | (and it should limit buffering to the first part) |
| 22:56:31 | linuxstb | amiconn: That's not easy either. IIRC, ogg files are split into pages, and each page contains a timestamp./duration for that page. To find the duration of a track, you need to find the first and last pages, and subtract the timestamps. |
| 22:56:40 | Riyonuk | Is there a way to test themes on my computer before transferring to the iPod? |
| 22:57:19 | amiconn | linuxstb: Erm... I thought ogg was a sane format... obviously it isn't |
| 22:57:27 | linuxstb | There is code in the Ogg metadata parser that checks the serial numbers of the first and last pages in the file - if they don't match, it should mean a chained ogg file, and Rockbox should reject it completely. |
| 22:57:34 | linuxstb | amiconn: No it's not... |
| 22:57:36 | amiconn | A sane format would allow finding its playing time without seeking to the end |
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| 22:57:42 | fml | jdGordon (for the log): couldn't we throw away the last parameter (len) in the macro FILENAME_SETTING (in settings_list.c) and use sizeof() instead (and subtract the prefix/suffix length if they are defined)? This way we'd avoid repeating the values in settings.h and settings_list.c |
| 22:57:44 | MarcGuay | olegfink: No compiler, I believe. Read the motorola link. |
| 22:57:52 | amiconn | Even mp3 does that (cbr or vbr with xing header) |
| 22:58:27 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes, it surprised me too. |
| 22:58:51 | linuxstb | (unless I'm completely misremembering - it was a long time ago when I wrote that code, and haven't touched it since) |
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| 23:01:24 | Bagder | hey, the download servers are all linux I can use symlinks! |
| 23:01:36 | * | Bagder celebrates |
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| 23:03:24 | pixelma | Riyonuk: you could use a simulator of your target |
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| 23:04:45 | olegfink | MarcGuay: so those russian guy's firmware is just a modification of the existing one, he didn't compile it? |
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| 23:06:56 | Riyonuk | What? :O |
| 23:08:38 | fml | XavierGr: you're in the list of the active users. But are you really here? |
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| 23:10:10 | amiconn | Bagder: Do symlinks get synced to the other download servers? |
| 23:10:17 | Bagder | sure |
| 23:10:27 | olegfink | MarcGuay: the motorola link suggests a few compilers, and seem that guy used some other one |
| 23:10:33 | amiconn | Do they stay symlinks? |
| 23:10:43 | * | amiconn has no idea how the files are synced |
| 23:11:12 | Bagder | hm, it depends on what rsync options they use |
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| 23:11:23 | Bagder | it seems they might get turned into plain files by default... |
| 23:11:55 | amiconn | I would think that if the other servers don't use the exact same directory structure, symlinks would break when synced |
| 23:12:11 | Bagder | they will work since they do use the exact same structure |
| 23:12:24 | Bagder | I only symlink relative within our own tree |
| 23:12:29 | amiconn | ah |
| 23:12:51 | Bagder | => ../3.0/... style |
| 23:13:13 | Bagder | so it doesn't really matter if they end up links or real files |
| 23:13:31 | * | amiconn had seen relative symlinks break in the past... but that was quite long ago |
| 23:13:33 | Bagder | at least not if the web servers allow symlinks |
| 23:13:57 | Bagder | I guess I'll get this bouncing back at me in the end anyway! ;-) |
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| 23:19:35 | Bagder | "written in c/c++" is indeed a weird statement |
| 23:20:05 | * | Bagder read the recent comment in FS #2613 |
| 23:20:46 | linuxstb | Bagder: Isn't that a category on Sourceforge? |
| 23:21:33 | Bagder | sf says "Programming Language : C, C++" |
| 23:22:07 | Bagder | I checked it, and I'd call it C++ |
| 23:22:30 | linuxstb | Maybe it uses some C libs - e.g. zlib? |
| 23:22:53 | Bagder | yes, it uses a wide range of libs |
| 23:23:06 | Bagder | LIBS=-Lmupdf/libs -Ldjvu/libs -ldjvulibre -lmupdf -lraster -lworld -lfonts -lstream -lbase -lpspgum -lpspgu -lpsppower -lpsprtc -lpng -lz -ljpeg -lm -lfreetype -lstdc++ -lsupc++ |
| 23:23:18 | Bagder | looks like a quick and easy port ;-) |
| 23:23:22 | linuxstb | ;) |
| 23:23:33 | linuxstb | No -lm though... |
| 23:23:39 | * | linuxstb is blind |
| 23:23:45 | linuxstb | Including -lm... |
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| 23:45:47 | Bagder | amiconn: I'm uploading a 3.0.1 source tarball now |
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| 23:51:43 | mcuelenaere | LambdaCalculus37: you have tried DFU mode on the iPod nano 2G without success, right? |
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| 23:53:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | mcuelenaere: I was able to get DFU mode to accept a small 4-byte file, but that's all. |
| 23:53:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | I haven't tried injecting any real code into it. |
| 23:53:28 | mcuelenaere | what file? code? |
| 23:53:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Just text. |
| 23:53:57 | mcuelenaere | (I thought Apple was using another implementation of CRC32, but I was wrong -> http://github.com/planetbeing/xpwn/tree/master/dfu-util/sam7dfu.c ) |
| 23:54:32 | mcuelenaere | that's the DFU code used on iPhones/iPod Touch'es |
| 23:54:41 | * | LambdaCalculus37 bookmarks it for later reference |
| 23:55:04 | mcuelenaere | and they say they use an 'exploit' that Apple seemed to haven't seen |
| 23:55:06 | Bagder | so even the polynomial is the same then |
| 23:55:28 | * | mcuelenaere just can't find that particular 'exploit' |
| 23:55:37 | mcuelenaere | it seems all normal DFU code to /me |
| 23:56:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | I don't even see a reference to VID or PID within the code; how do they manage to inject it? |
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| 23:57:36 | mcuelenaere | that's just one .C file |
| 23:57:38 | mcuelenaere | there are more |
| 23:57:44 | mcuelenaere | but I now see they're using a 'hash' |
| 23:57:57 | mcuelenaere | LambdaCalculus37: http://github.com/planetbeing/xpwn/tree/master/dfu-util/ |
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