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| 00:18:09 | totalnewbie | im trying to find the part in the FAQ where it says: "I just installed Rocbox but nothing will play" I got something along those lines but it doesn't seem to help me. |
| 00:19:12 | BigBambi | What player, what files, how did you transfer them, etc etc |
| 00:19:37 | pixelma | it would help if you could give some more details other than "nothing will play". ;) What player did you install Rockbox on, what files are you trying to play, do you get an error message (if so which), what happens... |
| 00:20:30 | totalnewbie | Toshiba (not S series) the database has scanned and found the files but when I try to access them they do not appear |
| 00:20:46 | BigBambi | Are they .sat files? |
| 00:21:02 | BigBambi | Or mp3, ogg, ... ? |
| 00:21:07 | totalnewbie | i really wouldn't know |
| 00:21:09 | totalnewbie | mp3 |
| 00:21:14 | BigBambi | And how did you transfer them? |
| 00:21:49 | totalnewbie | they were already on the player, I added rockbox on top of all that. It was originally by usb transfer |
| 00:22:03 | BigBambi | Then they are encrypted and Rockbox cannot play them |
| 00:22:25 | totalnewbie | so I should delete and try again? Or somehow remove encryption? |
| 00:22:30 | BigBambi | Gigabeat room encrypts files when you transfer them (and calls them .sat) |
| 00:22:52 | totalnewbie | yes. Gigabeat room. An old enemy. |
| 00:22:54 | BigBambi | You can remove encryption, but if you have the MP3s on your computer, it is much easier to just delete and retransfer |
| 00:23:00 | totalnewbie | thanks |
| 00:23:13 | BigBambi | Just copy and paste them, don't use gigabeat room |
| 00:23:42 | BigBambi | If you want to use some other synching thing you of course can, but personally I think it is much easier just copying and pasting |
| 00:24:18 | totalnewbie | I was forced to use windows media player as the preferred alternative. I used to see a lot of bitching about gigabeat awhile ago but that's all been replaced by glowing reports. anybody know what gives? |
| 00:24:43 | BigBambi | I don't know what you mean. It is transformed by Rockbox... |
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| 00:25:33 | totalnewbie | No i was taking the opportunity to complain about how horrible the original software is and how grateful I am for this new system |
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| 00:40:36 | funman | I have now the Clip simulator in 'real' colors, but I have yet to find an efficient and clean way to do |
| 00:41:30 | funman | at the moment, I add an extra color to the palette, and check the top 16*128 pixels in sdl_gui_update(), converting them to the 2nd color if they are set to the first (and only) one |
| 00:43:45 | funman | oh and the yellow top stays on when the backlight is switched off .. :o |
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| 01:14:40 | funman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/65454/ : it's quite ugly |
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| 01:28:32 | bertrik | funman, it seems the sd controller works, but we miss something to activate the actual flash somehow I think |
| 01:28:52 | funman | I came to the same conclusion, that's why I thought we miss a voltage or something |
| 01:30:33 | bertrik | I also find it weird that the send_op_cond command fails with a crc error, but does seem to return value data anyway |
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| 01:31:29 | funman | well maybe we don't care about the crc |
| 01:31:51 | funman | the SD spec has something about crc not required for op_cond I think |
| 01:33:01 | bertrik | I read about the e200v2 doing multiple things with the same pins, that complicates things a bit. I hope it's not the same with the clip |
| 01:35:32 | funman | what do you mean ? |
| 01:38:09 | bertrik | funman, the last part of http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaV2HardwareMappings |
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| 01:39:58 | funman | well no it's the same |
| 01:40:05 | funman | xpd is shared between gpiod and sd-mci |
| 01:40:20 | funman | xpb and xpc is shared between gpio and lcd (dbop) |
| 01:40:52 | funman | do you know who I should bug for simulator patches ? |
| 01:44:22 | bertrik | no sorry don't know. TBH I think a v2 simulator is wasted time as long as there is no actual port to simulate |
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| 01:45:52 | funman | it was fun :) |
| 01:46:17 | funman | there is also the fact that I don't know where to look to get access to the embedded SD |
| 01:46:17 | domonoky | :-) and it helps to prepare,for when we get the bootloader ready... |
| 01:46:35 | pixelma | people can work on keymaps (although the sim is not always the best thing for it) or other higher level stuff |
| 01:49:53 | pixelma | other people who don't own the target but want to help out |
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| 04:13:32 | Romanian | Which language does Rockbox most utilise/is in most need for ports? |
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| 04:15:46 | funman | I don't think there is statistics about the untranslated strings |
| 04:16:13 | Romanian | uhhh |
| 04:16:31 | Romanian | programming languages? |
| 04:16:43 | scorche | C with bits of ASM |
| 04:16:57 | * | scorche bonks funman on the noggin ;) |
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| 04:19:22 | funman | ah sorry |
| 04:23:14 | funman | there is also a bit of perl for the tools used by the buildsystem |
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| 04:50:17 | webguest89 | Anyone there? |
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| 04:50:38 | webguest89 | hello? |
| 04:50:41 | advcomp2019 | webguest89, yes |
| 04:50:55 | webguest89 | So is there any alt os that will work on the 3rd gen nano? |
| 04:51:04 | advcomp2019 | nope |
| 04:51:15 | webguest89 | none at all? |
| 04:51:28 | advcomp2019 | yea.. none |
| 04:51:32 | webguest89 | sux |
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| 04:51:54 | webguest79 | so I am stuck with the mac one |
| 04:51:56 | webguest79 | man. |
| 04:52:21 | advcomp2019 | yep unless you going work on it |
| 04:52:37 | webguest79 | ? |
| 04:53:13 | advcomp2019 | you could make rockbox work on it if you know how to |
| 04:53:36 | webguest79 | What would I do? Any tutorial? |
| 04:54:38 | advcomp2019 | here are links for you: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers |
| 04:55:25 | webguest79 | drat |
| 04:55:31 | webguest79 | So why is there nothing for the 3rd? |
| 04:56:58 | advcomp2019 | the firmware is encrypted for one |
| 04:57:16 | webguest79 | wow |
| 04:57:24 | webguest79 | Mac sure does hate jailbreakers. |
| 04:59:39 | webguest79 | but don't you just replace the firmware anyways? |
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| 15:38:36 | gevaerts | \o/ |
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| 15:39:43 | funman | hum rockbox.org domain has expired ? |
| 15:40:13 | funman | shame on me: I typed rocbox |
| 15:40:24 | gevaerts | Expiration Date:22-Sep-2013 22:36:53 UTC |
| 15:41:10 | XavierGr | it works for me now |
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| 15:42:22 | J-23 | is Superdom clone of any other game? |
| 15:44:04 | * | funman invites simulator friends to have a look at FS #9521 |
| 15:44:14 | moos | we missed yet few svn mails for this morning, probably due to this crash/or don't know what's hapened, B4gder? |
| 15:48:03 | moos | just received, things seems back again |
| 15:50:14 | B4gder | most stuff will just be delayed, yes |
| 15:54:22 | funman | kugel: when the fuze' lcd work, we can try to read the ADC to get button states |
| 15:54:38 | funman | in the datasheet they name it 'microphone2' input, but they mention the buttons .. |
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| 16:12:16 | gevaerts | My storage rework in FS #9500 is getting near being commit ready. I'm still looking for some ways to reduce the delta a bit, and I still need to test on Archos, but that's it |
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| 16:23:24 | kugel | linuxstb: Do I need to edit sansa-as3525.c in a way to test the lcd? |
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| 16:32:30 | kugel | linuxstb: why is backlight-e200v2.c built, and not backlight-fuze? |
| 16:33:20 | kugel | copy'n'paste fail I guess. I corrected it |
| 16:35:04 | kugel | the bootloader-fuze.sansa is >50KB. Isn't it too big (I remember we only had 38KB for the fuze left). Or is it ucl compressed sufficiently? |
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| 16:36:41 | bertrik | mkamsboot tells you exactly how much memory is used |
| 16:38:01 | bertrik | I suppose as long as "total size of new image" is smaller than "original firmware size" by a comfortable margin, it should be OK |
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| 16:42:50 | kugel | it is |
| 16:44:14 | kugel | linuxstb: no success |
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| 16:57:35 | * | gevaerts is confused. Why do some of his inline functions work when passed as pointers, while others don't? |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:22 | gevaerts | Also, why are ata_sleep(), ata_spin() and ata_spindown() unconditionally included in the plugin api, without #ifdef HAVE_DISK_STORAGE? |
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| 17:04:08 | * | gevaerts decides to commit the current storage rework. Reducing deltas can be done later, when enough people are woken up by the reds to have a decent discussion about it |
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| 17:23:46 | moos | gevaerts: from memory, you have beated all previous records :) |
| 17:23:51 | * | gevaerts must have done something wrong.. |
| 17:24:20 | * | gevaerts facepalms |
| 17:25:37 | gevaerts | Now who will be the first to reach 1000000 points? |
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| 17:27:38 | moos | hehe, don't know if anyone will beat this soonish :), but sure that you beated all previous pretenders, by far even |
| 17:28:18 | petur | gevaerts: I'm sure you managed a new record |
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| 17:28:31 | moos | petur: he had :) |
| 17:28:34 | gevaerts | It's all caused by git! |
| 17:28:59 | petur | what, no perl involved? |
| 17:29:09 | moos | haha :D |
| 17:29:34 | gevaerts | My git checkout got confused, so I applied the patch to an svn checkout, test-compiled and committed, but I forgot about the svn add |
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| 17:29:54 | petur | I saw ;) |
| 17:30:05 | soho | hey guys, how can i find out if my rockbox version is old? |
| 17:30:23 | soho | it says r16350-080218 |
| 17:30:25 | * | moos already forgot to add files too |
| 17:30:29 | soho | is that version3? |
| 17:30:35 | petur | no |
| 17:30:40 | petur | very old |
| 17:30:47 | soho | oh |
| 17:30:52 | soho | how can i update it? |
| 17:30:55 | gevaerts | soho: the "080218" is the date |
| 17:31:03 | petur | 18 feb 2008 |
| 17:31:06 | soho | oh |
| 17:31:07 | moos | http://build.rockbox.org/ |
| 17:31:12 | soho | i installed it 2006 |
| 17:31:29 | gevaerts | soho: download rbutil and ue that to upgrade |
| 17:31:47 | gevaerts | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 17:31:55 | soho | ok thanks gevaerts |
| 17:32:20 | Cdynasty | i need some help regarding the menu system |
| 17:32:57 | soho | i am on linux right now is that a program gavaerts? |
| 17:33:14 | gevaerts | soho: in that case, you download the linux version :) |
| 17:33:21 | soho | 32 or 64? |
| 17:33:28 | kugel | gevaerts: nice reds! Looks beatiful :P |
| 17:33:30 | soho | im not sure which one |
| 17:33:47 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: Just ask |
| 17:33:50 | kugel | gevaerts: still some reds :/ |
| 17:33:55 | Cdynasty | why is it that when you start up rockbox and you resume playback, the back button doesnt go to the correct place in the database but instead the file browser? |
| 17:34:35 | gevaerts | soho: if you don't know, it's most probably 32 |
| 17:34:53 | BigBambi | Because at the moment the resume doesn't know that you selected that file through the database and not through the filebrowser |
| 17:35:00 | soho | i think its 64 |
| 17:35:12 | gevaerts | You can always just try |
| 17:35:40 | Cdynasty | is there a way to make the "return to database" button ALWAYS go back to the specific album for example in the database? |
| 17:35:54 | soho | gavaerts after i download what do i do |
| 17:36:39 | Cdynasty | or how would i go about fixing this problem myself |
| 17:36:43 | soho | my archive manager wont open it |
| 17:36:57 | Cdynasty | and is it a well known problem? |
| 17:36:59 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: The information stored for the resume will need extending to also record whether the song was selected from database or filebrowser, not just what file to resume |
| 17:37:16 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: It is the first I have heard, but very few devs indeed use the database |
| 17:38:03 | BigBambi | soho: A linux archive manager won't open .tar.bz2 ? |
| 17:38:04 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 17:38:15 | Cdynasty | oh i see |
| 17:38:17 | soho | i opened it, and extracted it |
| 17:38:23 | Cdynasty | so i should use the file browser more? |
| 17:38:30 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: That is up to you |
| 17:38:31 | soho | it wont open "rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit" |
| 17:38:49 | BigBambi | soho: chmod +x rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit |
| 17:39:01 | Cdynasty | i'm too used to ipod style browsing :-( |
| 17:39:23 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: Personally I greatly dislike database style stuff, and prefer just to use a good old filetree |
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| 17:39:32 | BigBambi | But you can use what you like |
| 17:39:49 | soho | maybe i should just try this on windows |
| 17:40:04 | BigBambi | As you like, all you need to do is make it executable |
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| 17:40:10 | BigBambi | This is fairly basic linux use |
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| 17:41:42 | Cdynasty | so do i make a bug report about this or something? |
| 17:41:54 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: The database is missing some functionality compared to file browsing as the overlap of people that use it and people that can/do fix things is small |
| 17:42:45 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: I can't decide if that is a bug or missing functionality :) |
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| 17:43:59 | soho | hey |
| 17:44:41 | soho | can anyone help me with rockbox? |
| 17:44:56 | Cdynasty | alright well even though it goes to file browser, the "back to database" button on the wps still doesnt go to the correct folder in the file browser |
| 17:45:01 | Cdynasty | on powerup |
| 17:45:15 | BigBambi | Which back to database button? |
| 17:45:24 | Cdynasty | well for me, it would be the center button |
| 17:45:25 | BigBambi | soho: You still need to ask a question |
| 17:45:29 | soho | okay |
| 17:45:35 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: That isn't back to database per se |
| 17:45:39 | soho | i can't open the rbuild utility file |
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| 17:45:49 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: And do you have follow playlist turned on? |
| 17:45:55 | BigBambi | soho: Still on linux? |
| 17:46:18 | soho | i downloaded "rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit.bz2" and extracted it, file "rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit" wont run on my linux |
| 17:46:25 | soho | am i doing something wrong? |
| 17:46:32 | gevaerts | Try the 32 bit then |
| 17:46:33 | Cdynasty | oh wow |
| 17:46:36 | BigBambi | And did you do "chmod +x rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit" as I have already told you? |
| 17:46:38 | Cdynasty | that helps a lot |
| 17:46:48 | Cdynasty | well i think i can deal with the file browser now |
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| 17:47:46 | mc2739 | Cdynasty: i think database startup on powerup is a known bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9470 |
| 17:48:05 | Cdynasty | well that's slightly different |
| 17:48:09 | soho | BigBambi? |
| 17:48:30 | BigBambi | Have you made the file executable by running "chmod +x rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit" ? |
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| 17:48:33 | Cdynasty | im talking about when you first powerup, and you go to resume playback |
| 17:48:43 | Cdynasty | or if it start up using "previous screen" and you were on the wps |
| 17:48:43 | mc2739 | oh sorry, misread |
| 17:49:08 | Cdynasty | the follow playlist function is what i'm looking for, but instead for the database |
| 17:49:15 | soho | no i did no bigbambi let me try that |
| 17:49:29 | BigBambi | soho: I said it three time now.... |
| 17:50:08 | * | gevaerts hopes for all-green now |
| 17:50:34 | soho | im trying it right now bigbambi |
| 17:50:36 | soho | one second |
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| 17:51:49 | soho | ok i did chmod BigBambi |
| 17:52:00 | soho | applied successfully to the file |
| 17:52:11 | BigBambi | now run it |
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| 17:52:34 | soho | it says my "configuration is invalied" |
| 17:52:55 | BigBambi | And then should ask you to select player and mount point |
| 17:53:16 | soho | "this is most likely due to a new installation of rockbox utility or a change in devicepath |
| 17:53:34 | BigBambi | I know, press OK then select autodetect |
| 17:54:31 | soho | i clicked autodetected |
| 17:54:47 | * | domonoky wonders what people find so difficult about this message.. |
| 17:54:51 | soho | it picked "/media/disk" but after i apply changes it still says config is invalied |
| 17:55:05 | BigBambi | domonoky: I don't know |
| 17:55:05 | PaulJam | Cdynasty: the problem with a follow playlist feature for the database is, that a specific song can appear under multiple "paths" in the database. and other songs don't appear at all in the database. |
| 17:55:49 | BigBambi | soho: And your DAP is mounted at /media/disk ? |
| 17:56:11 | soho | i believe so... |
| 17:56:17 | BigBambi | Well is it? |
| 17:56:51 | soho | yes media/disk |
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| 17:56:57 | soho | leads to my music on my ipod |
| 17:57:14 | BigBambi | Did it detect which DAP correctly? |
| 17:57:19 | soho | no |
| 17:57:35 | * | domonoky gives a hint about root rights for rbutil with ipods.. |
| 17:57:50 | BigBambi | soho: Did you run it with sudo/as root? |
| 17:58:15 | soho | i was inthe GUI |
| 17:58:18 | BigBambi | soho: What distro? |
| 17:58:22 | soho | ubuntu |
| 17:58:22 | * | BigBambi guesses ubuntu |
| 17:58:27 | soho | :( |
| 17:58:42 | BigBambi | soho: run it with sudo from the command line |
| 17:58:59 | soho | sudo /media/disk ? |
| 17:59:08 | domonoky | isnt there a "run as" in the context menu of ubutu filebrowser ? |
| 17:59:09 | BigBambi | no, sudo ./rbutilqt-v1.0.6-64bit |
| 17:59:14 | BigBambi | domonoky: Maybe |
| 17:59:18 | soho | okay |
| 17:59:57 | soho | BigBambi still get the same error |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:26 | BigBambi | And it still didn't detect the ipod? |
| 18:00:37 | soho | i think it worked |
| 18:00:48 | soho | yeah |
| 18:00:50 | soho | it detected it |
| 18:01:39 | soho | next step is to install the bootloader? |
| 18:01:54 | BigBambi | I thought you already had that? |
| 18:01:58 | soho | yah |
| 18:02:03 | BigBambi | Then no |
| 18:02:05 | soho | i just need to unpdate my versio |
| 18:02:12 | domonoky | no need for the bootloader.. just install rockbox itself.. |
| 18:02:23 | BigBambi | Go to Installation, then Install Rockbox |
| 18:02:25 | soho | the "install rockbox on your audio player?" |
| 18:02:28 | soho | okay |
| 18:02:50 | soho | BigBambi will my music be lost when i update it? |
| 18:02:54 | BigBambi | No |
| 18:02:55 | domonoky | no |
| 18:03:00 | soho | cool |
| 18:04:02 | BigBambi | domonoky: By the way, I don't have a run as in the context menu of ubuntu 8.10 |
| 18:05:04 | soho | how is ibex? |
| 18:05:10 | BigBambi | off topic |
| 18:05:15 | soho | :( |
| 18:05:27 | soho | BigBambi what theme do you use for rockbox? |
| 18:06:02 | BigBambi | Depends on which player - most of them cabbiev2, on a couple a modified cabbiev2 with bigger font and album art |
| 18:06:15 | soho | i have an old theme on mine |
| 18:06:23 | soho | will that be deleted after i install this update? |
| 18:06:25 | Cdynasty | pauljam: there should be a way that allows you to set a certain branch to go through, say artists, or albums |
| 18:06:39 | soho | because i dont like the theme, and i want to delete it |
| 18:06:47 | BigBambi | soho: No, but you will likely have to fix it to work with current rockbox |
| 18:06:54 | BigBambi | soho: Then delete it.... |
| 18:07:22 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: Who decides which way that is? |
| 18:07:31 | soho | i forgot how to delete it |
| 18:07:41 | BigBambi | browse to it and delete? |
| 18:07:50 | soho | BigBambi do i want "rockbox stable, archived build or current build" |
| 18:07:59 | Cdynasty | BigBambi: either a menu option or last used or choose one and set it for that |
| 18:08:00 | BigBambi | current |
| 18:08:33 | BigBambi | Cdynasty: Sorry, I slightly misread what you said. That is possible, but the possibilities are endless given you can chain filters |
| 18:08:42 | soho | i think ill try the ubuntu human theme |
| 18:08:55 | Cdynasty | the way the ipod interface back navigates from the playing screen is so easy to use |
| 18:08:59 | BigBambi | s/That is possible, but// |
| 18:09:05 | Cdynasty | i just want similar function but for rockbox |
| 18:09:10 | BigBambi | Then get coding :) |
| 18:09:36 | soho | BigBambi is there anyway to completly remove mac's firmware on the ipods? |
| 18:09:49 | BigBambi | Yes, but why? |
| 18:10:00 | soho | Apple = yuck |
| 18:10:12 | soho | i want rockbox to be only on it |
| 18:10:43 | BigBambi | I would advise leaving it there (I also wonder why you bought an ipod if Apple = yuck) |
| 18:11:49 | soho | because its either MSFT or apple |
| 18:12:08 | gevaerts | huh? |
| 18:12:18 | BigBambi | iriver, iaudio, toshiba, sandisk, archos, ..... |
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| 18:12:34 | * | gevaerts has fifteen DAPs that were built by neither Microsoft nor Apple |
| 18:12:53 | * | BigBambi has 7 non Apple non Microsoft |
| 18:13:10 | soho | ACTUALLY THE ZEN IS ALRIGHT |
| 18:13:25 | soho | cant believe i said that |
| 18:13:33 | BigBambi | Nope, no Rockbox. Anyway, lets stay on topic |
| 18:13:34 | domonoky | no need to shout.. |
| 18:15:12 | conley | Hey, I just found a Zune in the grass outside my office...are there any plans to get Rockbox working on the zune? |
| 18:15:44 | * | BigBambi thinks conley should hand that in |
| 18:16:06 | conley | BigBambi: To who? |
| 18:16:37 | BigBambi | Office secretary, police, ... |
| 18:17:08 | * | BigBambi would check with those sort of people if he lost his DAP |
| 18:17:31 | advcomp2019 | a lost and found box |
| 18:17:39 | Cdynasty | i dont think i would check with police if i lost a player |
| 18:17:48 | BigBambi | Either way, off topic |
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| 18:19:55 | conley | Police? They wouldn't do anything...and there are many buildings around, not just one |
| 18:20:04 | conley | I'll be looking for lost zune posters |
| 18:20:06 | BigBambi | <BigBambi> Either way, off topic |
| 18:20:12 | conley | ok |
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| 18:37:02 | * | gevaerts wants the build servers to pick up his latest commit |
| 18:52:10 | kugel | linuxstb: are you back soon? |
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| 19:59:04 | _gregorovius | aproximately how long does an ipod take to reboot from rockbox to the original firmware (and viceversa)? |
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| 20:00:25 | linuxstb | Which ipod? |
| 20:00:38 | _gregorovius | I was thinking of buying a 5g |
| 20:00:57 | _gregorovius | I was reading the wiki and discovered video playback in rockbox isn't so hot at 320x240 |
| 20:01:19 | _gregorovius | so I'm wondering how much of a bother it might be to reboot to the original firmware every time I want to watch a video |
| 20:01:45 | linuxstb | The Apple firmware is very slow to start - I'm guessing about 30 seconds, but it's been a long time since I tried. Rockbox will start in about 5-10 seconds. |
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| 20:02:14 | gevaerts | Does this have to be an ipod? |
| 20:02:42 | _gregorovius | not particularly, but it's easy to get and cheap, and I like the hardware |
| 20:03:01 | _gregorovius | lack of fm radio and a standard usb port bothers me, alas |
| 20:03:09 | gevaerts | The ipod 5g is the slowest 320x240 player that rockbox runs on. On gigabeat F e.g. video works fine |
| 20:03:17 | linuxstb | The Gigabeat F is cheap, and has good 320x240 video playback in Rockbox. No FM, but there is a standard USB port. |
| 20:04:07 | _gregorovius | any advantages over an ipod 5g? |
| 20:05:12 | gevaerts | The ipod is a bit more compact, but I personally prefer the gigabeat |
| 20:05:29 | linuxstb | What I just said are two reasons - good video playback in Rockbox, and a standard USB port. It probably also has longer battery life (in Rockbox) than the ipod. |
| 20:05:42 | _gregorovius | size and weight are pretty important for me |
| 20:05:46 | _gregorovius | I can't find specs... |
| 20:06:00 | gevaerts | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart |
| 20:06:27 | linuxstb | The Gigabeat S is even better (it has FM, plus an even more powerful CPU than the F), but Rockbox isn't fully working on it yet. |
| 20:08:27 | _gregorovius | 60gb gigabeat f is 19mm thick? |
| 20:08:42 | gevaerts | It's pretty thick, yes |
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| 20:09:10 | J-23 | bertrik: do you receive any errors? |
| 20:09:29 | _gregorovius | weight is almost the same, but thickness tends to bug me |
| 20:09:41 | _gregorovius | anyway, I'm not a big video user, only ocasionally |
| 20:10:14 | _gregorovius | I don't mind if it doesn't work perfectly on rockbox |
| 20:10:49 | bertrik | J-23, SOUND_LEFT_GAIN undeclared for sansa clip sim |
| 20:11:01 | J-23 | ahh, Clip sim |
| 20:11:24 | gevaerts | As linuxstb said, you could go for the gigabeat S. It's a lot more compact than the F. Rockbox support isn't complete yet though |
| 20:12:34 | _gregorovius | if there's something I don't look for in a music player is beta-ness =) |
| 20:15:03 | gevaerts | In that case you'll have to choose between having to reboot for smooth video, having a bulky player, or having a smaller screen |
| 20:17:24 | _gregorovius | I can live with rebooting every now and then, I think |
| 20:19:00 | * | J-23 doesn't like unsynced patches |
| 20:19:09 | J-23 | unsynced but useful* |
| 20:19:39 | _gregorovius | do you guys consider rockbox's UI to be polished? |
| 20:19:59 | _gregorovius | or- does it provide with a mostly smooth experience? |
| 20:20:09 | * | gevaerts is not a UI type of person, so he won't answer that :) |
| 20:20:42 | _gregorovius | I had a meizu m6, which was pretty decent, but it had some really annoying quirks |
| 20:20:43 | bluebrother | depends on what you consider a smooth experience ... I'm quite happy with the UI |
| 20:20:56 | _gregorovius | I don't need animated menus or that nonsense |
| 20:21:12 | _gregorovius | just an easy to browse interface that's fast and usable |
| 20:21:41 | linuxstb | _gregorovius: You can always try the Rockbox UI simulator - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UiSimulator |
| 20:21:45 | gevaerts | There have been some complaints about UI speed on the ipod video. I'm not sure about the current status though |
| 20:22:09 | krazykit | i was under the impression ui performance had improved since the COP had been better utilized |
| 20:23:28 | * | gevaerts doesn't know. He doesn't use his ipod video very often |
| 20:24:12 | kugel | _gregorovius: if you look for a fast and smooth browsing, then any device BUT the ipod 5g applies |
| 20:24:36 | _gregorovius | um... why's that? |
| 20:24:52 | kugel | because, as it has been said, the 5g is the slowest target |
| 20:25:18 | _gregorovius | I mean, is it a matter of the ipod's hardware? |
| 20:25:23 | kugel | that doesn't only apply to video playback, but to overall in general. It's just most noticeable in the bad video performance |
| 20:25:28 | gevaerts | Same reason as why video isn't very good. Relatively slow CPU and lots of pixels |
| 20:25:45 | kugel | it's a rather slow processor connected with a high res display, so yes |
| 20:26:15 | kugel | linuxstb: you've noticed my fuze test, didn't you? any ideas? |
| 20:27:13 | gevaerts | There's a chip in there to help with video and possibly UI performance, but it's totally undocumented, so rockbox can't use it |
| 20:27:57 | _gregorovius | hate when that happens |
| 20:28:16 | _gregorovius | reckon it's likely to get better with time, or are we at a dead end? |
| 20:28:50 | linuxstb | kugel: I've noticed you say "no success", but I don't know what you've tried. |
| 20:29:13 | kugel | linuxstb: I compiled a bootloader with your committed code |
| 20:29:40 | kugel | i.e. the lcd driver you wrote doesn't seem to work |
| 20:30:13 | linuxstb | What about anything else? Have you tried running code on your Fuze before? |
| 20:31:22 | linuxstb | Is the Fuze's LCD visible without backlight? |
| 20:32:10 | bertrik | kugel, did the backlight come on at all? |
| 20:33:34 | linuxstb | BTW, it wasn't a mistake to use the e200v2's backlight code in firmware/SOURCES, the mistake was committing an identical copy of it as backlight-fuze.c |
| 20:34:10 | kugel | linuxstb: my code as in? |
| 20:34:42 | linuxstb | kugel: ? |
| 20:34:45 | kugel | no, there was no backlight |
| 20:35:13 | kugel | linuxstb: sorry, missread. I have tried running code on the fuze before, why do you ask? |
| 20:36:04 | kugel | linuxstb: if it was no mistake, then name the file backlight-e200v2-fuze.c and put it in the parent dir, so it's not confusing... |
| 20:36:36 | linuxstb | Yes, I was going to if it worked. |
| 20:37:09 | linuxstb | But it's also the same code as the c200v1 and e200v1. |
| 20:38:27 | linuxstb | kugel: Is the Fuze's LCD visible without backlight? |
| 20:39:46 | kugel | I can't tell. Going from the OF it's not. But it could be that the OF clears the display when the backlight goes off, like rockbox does it on the v1 (where the of doesn't do that) |
| 20:39:59 | kugel | if it's visible, then very hardly |
| 20:41:15 | jchillerup | gevaerts: it is still rather slow |
| 20:41:29 | jchillerup | still as in 'I have a build from July' |
| 20:41:34 | jchillerup | So it might have changed |
| 20:42:09 | gevaerts | July is a long time ago in rockbox time |
| 20:42:29 | kugel | linuxstb: I'll have a closer look again |
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| 20:45:09 | kugel | linuxstb: I can't read anything |
| 20:45:31 | kugel | if the front plate is reflecting too much, so I can't even light it externally |
| 20:46:09 | kugel | linuxstb: Any chance you can find the button light pin? GPOID 7 didn't work on the fuze |
| 20:49:24 | linuxstb | That's strange, becuase the Fuze LCD driver sets that pin, in the same way as the e200v2's LCD driver does. |
| 20:49:55 | kugel | ok, I'll try again |
| 20:50:41 | kugel | WOW |
| 20:50:50 | kugel | linuxstb: COOL |
| 20:51:17 | kugel | buttonlight works! And LCD too after I added _buttonlight_on() to sansa_as3525.c!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:51:30 | kugel | So cool, I saw the rockbox logo on my Fuze |
| 20:51:43 | domonoky | nice |
| 20:51:43 | linuxstb | Good ;) |
| 20:52:50 | kugel | so great |
| 20:53:02 | mc2739 | good work! |
| 20:53:27 | kugel | linuxstb: so, the backlight and lcd init needed buttonlight pin to be set |
| 20:54:52 | linuxstb | You should experiment now - e.g. try not calling the _backlight_on() function. |
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| 20:56:18 | kugel | ok |
| 20:57:08 | kugel | the rockbox logo color was a bit wrong though |
| 20:58:41 | linuxstb | Oh well, perfection would have been too much to hope for... |
| 20:58:45 | linuxstb | Can you take a photo? |
| 20:58:57 | kugel | I already did, wait for me to upload :) |
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| 21:04:42 | bertrik | maybe we should create a little gallery or something |
| 21:05:20 | linuxstb | Just one more to go - the c200v2... |
| 21:06:36 | kugel | linuxstb: I posted to the forum thread |
| 21:07:37 | * | linuxstb agrees with Bagder - V2 owners need better cameras.... |
| 21:08:00 | kugel | the colors are just inverted. The logo background is light blue/teal. The rock in rockbox is black and the box is white |
| 21:08:26 | kugel | yea, sorry :( I'm not a photographer at all |
| 21:09:25 | kugel | oops, the coloring of "rockbox" is correct of course :S |
| 21:10:31 | linuxstb | Can you try this page? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/fuze.diff |
| 21:10:39 | linuxstb | s/page/patch/ |
| 21:10:53 | linuxstb | You'll need to do a "make clean" and re-run ../tools/configure |
| 21:11:04 | kugel | ok |
| 21:11:11 | kugel | i got a much better foto |
| 21:13:07 | kugel | linuxstb: I edited my post |
| 21:17:36 | kugel | linuxstb: worse than before |
| 21:17:56 | kugel | it's redish and rather pixel garbage |
| 21:18:45 | bertrik | hmm, so the buttonlight has some kind of magic effect on the display? |
| 21:18:59 | kugel | seems so |
| 21:19:40 | kugel | linuxstb: want another photo? or is my description helpful enough? |
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| 21:20:53 | bertrik | let's see if it can do some magic for the sd driver too ... :) |
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| 21:21:13 | linuxstb | kugel: No, that's OK. |
| 21:22:07 | kugel | any idea? |
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| 21:28:34 | kugel | linuxstb: I'll upload another svn diff to fs#9515, including backlight-e200v2-fuze.c |
| 21:31:12 | kugel | my new backlight-e200v2-fuze.c doesn't show up in the diff, only "property change firmware/target/arm/as3525/backlight-e200v2-fuze.c" |
| 21:31:35 | linuxstb | Have you tested the backlight code there is definitely working? e.g. try removing the call to _backlight_on(), and also try setting it to different brightness levels. |
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| 21:31:46 | kugel | not yet |
| 21:32:39 | linuxstb | Maybe that could be useful before uploading a new patch... Plus also trying to understand the effect of GPIO D7. |
| 21:32:40 | kugel | I guess I should do that before |
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| 21:34:52 | kugel | I'll just upload the diff, doesn't hurt |
| 21:38:05 | kugel | linuxstb: is ata_init() that endless loop? |
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| 21:39:08 | linuxstb | You mean storage_init() ? |
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| 21:41:39 | kugel | uh, yea, I didn't do svn up since gevaerts commit |
| 21:43:03 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "that endless loop" ? |
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| 21:48:43 | kugel | it tells "loop X" and a an hex number in the next line, and x increments every second or so |
| 21:49:57 | domonoky | thats the sd/nand test, waiting for the card to get ready.. |
| 21:50:35 | mc2739 | I'm getting this after gevaerts commit http://www.pastebin.ca/1242606 |
| 21:50:42 | kugel | ok |
| 21:51:38 | kugel | linuxstb: http://pastebin.ca/1242608 <−− this is my current bootloader file. The backlight only changes once and there's also only 2 printf "brightness level: ", with 0 and 1 respectively |
| 21:53:33 | kugel | it turns on with high brightness and buttonlight, then the screen is black and the buttonlight of for a split second, and then the screen is turned on with low brighthness and button light again |
| 21:53:51 | linuxstb | You need to reset the "delay" variable in your loop, before the while(delay−−); |
| 21:54:22 | kugel | oops, correct |
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| 21:56:49 | linuxstb | And what happens if you call _buttonlight_off() ? |
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| 22:01:34 | kugel | wait a minute |
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| 22:03:27 | bluebrother | delay running upwards from a negative value looks kinda weird |
| 22:06:08 | kugel | linuxstb: _backlight_set_brightness is working |
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| 22:09:23 | kugel | I'll now add buttonlight_off() after the first and buttonlight_on after the second loop |
| 22:10:36 | kugel | the buttonlight behaves as expected (as in only the buttonlight turns off not the whole backlight) |
| 22:12:27 | amiconn | gevaerts: I don't seem to understand how this storage layer is intended to work |
| 22:12:44 | amiconn | It still only seems to work if there's exactly one storage type |
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| 22:15:40 | amiconn | And I dont understand why you use inline functions instead of #define's for single-storage targets |
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| 22:18:50 | kugel | linuxstb: what could I try next? |
| 22:20:07 | linuxstb | So if you call buttonlight_off(), the button light goes off, but the backlight and LCD stay on? |
| 22:20:29 | kugel | yep |
| 22:20:51 | kugel | I'll remove the _backlight_on() and see if the buttonlight keeps changing |
| 22:23:30 | kugel | Ok, the backlight doesn't turn on anymore before the brightness loop starts, but _backlight_set_brightness will turn it on |
| 22:23:45 | kugel | otherwise everything normal |
| 22:24:15 | kugel | Now I'll try if " as3525_codec_init(); /* Required for backlight on e200v2 */" also applies for the fuze |
| 22:25:23 | kugel | linuxstb: have you already thought of a solution for the wrong colored rockbox logo? |
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| 22:27:04 | kugel | linuxstb: no, that as3525_codec_init doesn |
| 22:27:10 | kugel | 't seem to be needed |
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| 22:27:44 | kugel | bertrik: what's the status of the SD driver for v2? |
| 22:29:06 | linuxstb | kugel: That's strange, as that function inits the i2c controller, and the backlight is controlled over i2c. |
| 22:29:23 | kugel | wait. I need to retest, the build failed without me noticing |
| 22:29:36 | kugel | evil shell scripts make life too easy |
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| 22:31:05 | kugel | ok, it is needed |
| 22:34:09 | kugel | I'd like to get the buttons now :S |
| 22:39:26 | linuxstb | kugel: For the lcd, try changing line 229 of lcd-fuze.c from lcd_write_reg(0x03, 0x30) to lcd_write_reg(0x03, 0x7030);. |
| 22:40:01 | kugel | linuxstb: seems I have to revert my buttonlight findings. It's not required for the backlight. |
| 22:40:22 | linuxstb | So the SVN code was fine all along? |
| 22:40:26 | kugel | I don't understand, but I couldn't see the logo before I added that |
| 22:40:44 | kugel | let me revert the bootloader to svn, then I'll look again |
| 22:41:01 | kugel | anyway, now it's working without buttonlight at all |
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| 22:42:24 | kugel | linuxstb: svn isn't working anymore. the storage_init bugs |
| 22:42:43 | kugel | gevaerts: ping |
| 22:42:59 | kugel | sansa_as3525.c:(.text.main+0xe0): undefined reference to `sd_init' |
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| 22:44:06 | mc2739 | kugel: I'm getting the same - I reverted back to r18959 |
| 22:44:38 | linuxstb | kugel: Just comment out the call to storage_init() in the bootloader. |
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| 22:44:45 | kugel | linuxstb: did that for now |
| 22:45:11 | kugel | mc2739: I bet gevaerts just forgot to properly port it to targets not on the build table :) |
| 22:45:18 | * | linuxstb will leave that to gevaerts/funman |
| 22:46:40 | kugel | linuxstb: Ok, svn works...I have now idea what happened when i tried it first |
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| 22:47:44 | linuxstb | OK, that's good. |
| 22:47:45 | kugel | linuxstb: should I change the line in lcd-fuze.c with your previous patch applied or without(svn)? |
| 22:47:59 | linuxstb | Without. |
| 22:48:42 | linuxstb | But if you had that patch applied, make sure you do a make clean and reconfigure. |
| 22:48:56 | kugel | i already removed it before |
| 22:49:19 | kugel | ahh, now that's the rockbox logo how I love it :) |
| 22:49:44 | Bensawsome | hey guys i got a problem with my rockbox.... a day ago it was working fine but then all of a sudden it didnt let me switch to the next or previous song and i fi waited for the end of the song it didnt switch either.... Then I restarted it and it wouldnt play anythingh....... it just showed the now playing screen with nothing but blank text on it.... T_T |
| 22:50:16 | linuxstb | kugel: Cool ;) |
| 22:50:42 | kugel | very cool, indeed |
| 22:51:05 | Bensawsome | oh and also when I tried to refresh the database it gave me a prefetch error :S |
| 22:52:01 | linuxstb | kugel: Just after that line, in the same function, there is a big set of lcd_write_reg commands - can you try commenting them all out? |
| 22:52:31 | kugel | sure |
| 22:53:06 | linuxstb | Bensawsome: Have you checked your disk for errors? e.g. with "chkdsk /f e:" on WIndows, or fsck.vfat on Linux? |
| 22:53:38 | domonoky | Bensawsome: maybe check the DAPs harddrive with checkdisk or fsck.vfat.. |
| 22:53:51 | * | linuxstb thought he just said that ;) |
| 22:54:02 | * | domonoky is to slow... |
| 22:54:25 | Bensawsome | no but my normal firmware is working fine (sry i forgotr to mention i have the sansa e280R) |
| 22:54:36 | Bensawsome | my normal can play songs and everything |
| 22:54:54 | kugel | linuxstb: no difference, working as before |
| 22:55:39 | linuxstb | kugel: OK, thanks. I'll now try and clean up the driver - I may have a patch for you to test later. I'll also move backlight-e200v2.c up one level in the tree. |
| 22:56:04 | kugel | linuxstb: or I just upload my svn diff to fs#9515? |
| 22:56:26 | kugel | but you probably want to do more |
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| 22:58:21 | linuxstb | 9515? |
| 22:59:11 | kugel | 9512*, sorry |
| 22:59:49 | kugel | my patch already contains a keymap and the sim build (without proper background image though) |
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| 23:00:51 | kugel | I'm just not sure about the svn move of backlight-e200v2-fuze.c, the diff doesn't seem to create that file but only change properties |
| 23:00:56 | linuxstb | I need to "svn mv" the file, and your patch won't do that. I would rather keep the sim code separate. |
| 23:01:10 | kugel | I did svn mv as well |
| 23:01:33 | kugel | Ok, probably better to keep it seperate, yes |
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| 23:01:46 | WarpTI | hey |
| 23:02:01 | WarpTI | is there a way to change rockbox boot pic on c200? |
| 23:02:03 | linuxstb | kugel: Yes, but "svn diff" doesn't remember that fact. |
| 23:02:03 | Bensawsome | but linuxstb do you think i should try maybe a fresh install? |
| 23:02:12 | kugel | oh, i see |
| 23:03:00 | linuxstb | Bensawsome: I would still check the disk for errors. Maybe it has a problem that the Sandisk firmware can live with, but not Rockbox. |
| 23:03:18 | Bensawsome | ok do you know how to do that on mac? |
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| 23:04:32 | linuxstb | Bensawsome: Sorry, no. |
| 23:04:56 | Bensawsome | ok thanks for the tip though :) |
| 23:06:43 | Bensawsome | o wait i think i found it :D |
| 23:06:58 | WarpTI | i only find how to change rockbox logo for ipod users when i google it |
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| 23:07:51 | Bensawsome | linuxstb it said Error: Filesystem verify or repair failed. :( so does that mean my drive is scrwed up :( |
| 23:07:59 | Bensawsome | when i "verified the disk" |
| 23:10:23 | linuxstb | I've no idea - I would suggest googling for those error messages. |
| 23:10:34 | Bensawsome | ok thanks |
| 23:10:55 | linuxstb | WarpTI: You need to modify the images in the Rockbox source code and compile your own version of Rockbox. The images are not user-configured. |
| 23:12:35 | Bensawsome | linuxstb I think i fixed it :D |
| 23:13:16 | Bensawsome | i used the disk utility to repair and and once that was done asked it to verify it agaian and it didnt give me any errors :D |
| 23:14:56 | Bensawsome | oh shoot I think I know why it gave me that prefetch error when i tried to reload the db... it happened before becasue i had too many songs :( |
| 23:15:32 | Bensawsome | welll looks like no more giant db of songs for me :( |
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| 23:16:19 | WarpTI | so how do i change the rockbox bootpic on c200 sansa? |
| 23:16:51 | WarpTI | i mean any way to do it without compiling? |
| 23:17:28 | WarpTI | like some kinda resource editor? |
| 23:18:32 | bluebrother | no |
| 23:18:54 | WarpTI | damn i guess that leaves me out of it |
| 23:18:57 | bluebrother | there was this logo swapper around, but why should we want to change the logo? To make it less Rockbox-ish? |
| 23:19:12 | WarpTI | I wanna make my own Rockbox logo u see |
| 23:19:14 | Bensawsome | ya its like mutiny! |
| 23:19:18 | Bensawsome | lol |
| 23:19:40 | WarpTI | like cooler look of rockbox text |
| 23:19:55 | WarpTI | cooler background etc |
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| 23:20:19 | Bensawsome | its still mutiny ;) |
| 23:20:28 | * | bluebrother thinks the Rockbox logo is cool |
| 23:21:27 | * | Bensawsome does too |
| 23:21:37 | linuxstb | Is there anyone around with a c200v2? |
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| 23:21:59 | WarpTI | yea but its too small on c200 |
| 23:22:16 | WarpTI | higher res image of rockbox would be even cooler hehe |
| 23:23:18 | WarpTI | can't be mutiny if i do that |
| 23:23:49 | bluebrother | you can't change that resolution without recompiling. |
| 23:24:21 | bluebrother | you couldn't do such a thing with a "resource editor" as you would mess up all resource addresses |
| 23:24:33 | linuxstb | WarpTI: It's really not that difficult to compile Rockbox, and it doesn't require any programming skills. There are plenty of instructions in the Rockbox wiki. |
| 23:25:45 | WarpTI | well the image on sansa c200 is what size?132x80 |
| 23:26:05 | WarpTI | and the rockbox logo pic doesn't take up that space |
| 23:26:33 | * | amiconn wonders why no one updated the topic |
| 23:26:52 | WarpTI | so its a minimized rockbox logo on less than 132x80 res but the logopic should take up the whole screen |
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| 23:28:21 | Bensawsome | way the site is back up :) |
| 23:28:36 | linuxstb | WarpTI: Isn't the logo the full width of the screen? |
| 23:28:47 | Bagder | Bensawsome: right, since about 7 hours ;-) |
| 23:28:59 | Bensawsome | lol well the topic was that until now :P |
| 23:29:08 | linuxstb | Never believe what you read in IRC |
| 23:29:10 | amiconn | Bagder: And why didn't you update the topic 7 hours ago then? |
| 23:29:28 | gevaerts | amiconn: it won't do multi-driver yet, but that shouldn't be too hard now that everything is in its own namespace. |
| 23:29:29 | Bagder | does anyone read the topic? |
| 23:29:49 | Bensawsome | id did :P |
| 23:29:52 | Bensawsome | *i |
| 23:30:19 | Bagder | amiconn: I fixed the server and I let you do the easy part... ;-) |
| 23:30:24 | amiconn | gevaerts: And what about the inline functions? You'll waste space and call overhead with every inline function you reference via pointer (because that forces gcc to include a non-inlined copy |
| 23:30:47 | amiconn | With macros that won't happen |
| 23:30:50 | WarpTI | btw i always wondered if rockbox could change the colour of the blue controller thingy , is that possible with rockbox? |
| 23:30:58 | WarpTI | on sansa c200 |
| 23:31:16 | * | amiconn thinks that using macros for single-storage targets should be rather easy |
| 23:31:34 | gevaerts | They need a bit of care to make sure they are not defined at the wrong place |
| 23:31:54 | amiconn | Since CONFIG_STORAGE is now a bitmask multi-value, it is possible to use the standard trick to find out whether only a single bit is set |
| 23:32:01 | Llorean | WarpTI: They're just blue lights, you can't change 'em. |
| 23:32:35 | WarpTI | ahh i see the only way to change them would be hardwaremodding |
| 23:32:46 | gevaerts | hm, indeed. I'll work on it some more tomorrow. At least the macros should be done then, not sure how much work multi-driver will be |
| 23:33:02 | WarpTI | have a friend that had his sansa e200 with red lights |
| 23:33:13 | Bensawsome | WarpTI yep that a pretty cool mod :D |
| 23:33:15 | amiconn | Multi-driver will probably need the multivolume/multidevice rework |
| 23:33:17 | WarpTI | maybe e200 is different. |
| 23:33:37 | Bagder | WarpTI: no, it's a hw mod on that device too |
| 23:33:38 | gevaerts | Multi-driver with one drive each is easy, but we'd better do it properly right away\ |
| 23:34:03 | amiconn | With multi-driver, the storage layer needs to translate drive numbers |
| 23:34:15 | WarpTI | just wondering is it completely impossible to do via software mod ? |
| 23:34:16 | bertrik | kugel, funman probably knows the sansa v2 sd driver status best |
| 23:34:34 | gevaerts | Yes. That's about the only thing it needs to do (that and making sure all drivers support drive numbers) |
| 23:35:02 | bertrik | AFAIK, there are two PL180 controllers in the SoC, one for the internal flash through an sd-flash bridge and another for external sd |
| 23:35:04 | amiconn | Perhaps it'd make sense to turn the volume id into a compound value |
| 23:35:35 | Llorean | WarpTI: It is impossible to do via software mod. |
| 23:35:43 | gevaerts | Something like 4 bit partition+4 bit disk? |
| 23:35:58 | gevaerts | (or 8, or 16...) |
| 23:36:01 | amiconn | Yes, and 4-bit storage |
| 23:36:13 | bertrik | we can initialise the external flash, but not the internal flash yet. |
| 23:36:36 | gevaerts | Ah, yes. That would make mapping easy |
| 23:36:38 | WarpTI | ahh i see thx Llorean |
| 23:36:51 | amiconn | gevaerts: Yup, just mask and pass-on |
| 23:37:13 | gevaerts | We'd need a table with all active volumes I think, so the mount code knows where to look |
| 23:37:23 | gevaerts | But that's not in the fast path |
| 23:37:28 | amiconn | Yeah. The tricky part is to keep this table small |
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| 23:38:34 | amiconn | As a side effect, this might also pave the way for logical volume support (the lack of this caused a few support issues in the past) |
| 23:39:41 | gevaerts | logical in what sense? |
| 23:39:51 | amiconn | hda5... |
| 23:40:15 | gevaerts | ah, ok. |
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| 23:42:33 | kugel | bertrik: thanks for the infos. The SD is the only thing holding us back from booting a full rockbox, isn't it? |
| 23:43:23 | gevaerts | Would a power-of-two storage driver selector be faster than a "normal" number? You only need a bitmask then |
| 23:44:30 | linuxstb | kugel: Plus the lack of a full rockbox to boot... |
| 23:45:03 | kugel | linuxstb: well, obviously |
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| 23:45:10 | bertrik | kugel, indeed having a working sd driver would be the next breakthrough |
| 23:45:23 | gevaerts | I'd guess that a 32 bit table entry will be fastest anyway, so if we only have driver, disk and partition to store we can be a bit wasteful if it makes things faster |
| 23:45:58 | * | gevaerts will make a ramdisk driver to test the multi-driver code |
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| 23:52:05 | kugel | gevaerts: your commit broke storage/ata_init on v2 sansas |
| 23:52:19 | kugel | i.e. ata_init worked, but storage_init doesn't comiple |
| 23:53:33 | * | gevaerts looks |
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| 23:54:32 | gevaerts | kugel: fixing now |
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| 23:55:43 | gevaerts | kugel: done |
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